PBD - Patrick Bet-David - Elizabeth Pipko Weighs in On DeSantis, Elon Musk and the Future of A.I. | PBD Podcast

April 18, 2023 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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Elizabeth Pipko Weighs in On DeSantis, Elon Musk and the Future of A.I. | PBD Podcast | Ep. 259

PBD Podcast Episode 259. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Elizabeth Pipko, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick. 0:00 - Start 8:56 - Elizabeth Pipkos views on the Education system 16:50 - Chelsea Handler Takes Shots at Adam Sosnick 31:35 - The Relationship of Kanye West & Nick Fuentes Exposed 38:18 - Trump Continues to Hold Lead Over Desantis 58:40 - Response to Mike Pence Getting Booed At NRA Convention 1:08:45 - Reaction to Youth of Chicago Rioting and Pillaging the City 1:23:06 - Hilarious reaction to Legal Weed Turning People into Zombies 1:32:24 - Top Ten Priciest Cities in America 1:43:32 - What Happens if China Master A.I. Buy Elizabeth Pipko's book "Finding My Place": https://bit.ly/3GWIJmD Follow Elizabeth Pipko on Instagram: https://bit.ly/40nVbTb Follow Elizabeth Pipko on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3L9ZXQ7 FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	Did you ever think you would make it?
	I know this life meant for me.
	Why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David?
	Value payment, giving values contagious.
	This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value.
	They hate it.
	I run, homie, look what I become.
	I'm the one.
	Okay, so we got a special podcast today.
	Let me lower the volume here while Adam is telling me about a girl he broke up with because he didn't like her name.
	Her last name.
	First name.
	Trans.
	Her first name.
	Her first name or her last name?
	Who's her first name?
	Anyway.
	Today's not about.
	So Jose wasn't.
	All right.
	So today's yes, today's yes.
	Today's guest.
	We got a lot of things to cover.
	We got Elizabeth Pip going to the house, who's a former model, 2016 Trump campaign staffer, who was the founder and president of the Exodus movement, which is committed to fighting the rising anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism of the far left, as well as promoting support for Israel.
	Thanks.
	Good to have you on the podcast.
	Yeah, thanks for having me.
	So tell us your story.
	Tell the audience your story a little bit.
	Okay, it's a long story, but I'm going to attempt to daughter of immigrants from the former Soviet Union.
	Right.
	Very proud Russian Jew in New York City.
	Went to Orthodox school, synagogue, the whole nine yards, everything my family could not do back in the Soviet Union.
	Around 11 years old, I discovered that I wanted to be an Olympic figure skater, which was very random.
	My mom, being the best person in the world, moved me to Florida to the only coaches that were willing to train me.
	I skated about six years, 10 hours a day, the whole nine, was asked to go to the Olympics for 2014 for the team of Israel.
	Then I destroyed my ankle and was told I would never walk again.
	Took me some time to get my life together, right?
	Moved back to New York City.
	I was discovered by a photographer, signed with Wilhelmina Models in a few months.
	I went back to school and modeling and somehow ended up in politics.
	And now I'm trying to combine all of that together.
	How did that happen?
	How do you go from modeling to politics?
	Because those two typically don't collide.
	Figure skating.
	Although I'm topic, right?
	What's that movie?
	Topic.
	Well, cutting edge.
	Cutting edge, yes.
	Cutting edge.
	That was a great movie.
	Cutting edge, right?
	You said former modeling?
	You can't say that.
	Yeah, I'm actually modeling now.
	Yeah.
	She has to say young men.
	I still got it.
	Yeah.
	Who with?
	Who are you modeling with right now?
	I have two agencies, one here and one in Atlanta.
	And I'm actually more successful now than I was a few years ago.
	Let's go.
	I will take it.
	Yeah.
	Very cool.
	Yeah.
	So tell us about politics and modeling.
	How did that happen?
	I worked for Donald Trump in 2016.
	That's problematic.
	Right.
	Only a little.
	Only a little.
	On his presidential campaign.
	Somehow ended up there and kept that a giant secret so I can continue modeling.
	Obviously, secrets nowadays do not last.
	That came out.
	Ended up in politics.
	45% of working women around the world.
	He's like this.
	No, that's the last.
	That's the left.
	Trying to interrupt her from Instagram.
	As soon as she said she's supposed to be.
	You were saying.
	So it was a secret, then it got out.
	The secret it got out.
	A lot of people, I think, on the right were very excited that a young Jewish woman was, I guess, on their side and wanted to utilize that.
	Still not thrilled about a lot of the opportunities that came my way, but I tried to make the best of it.
	And then realized I think I'm a little more centered than I originally thought.
	But somehow I was allowed into that world and given a giant platform.
	And now I'm trying to combine it in a way where I can still model and do politics and whatever else I wanted.
	So I'm curious.
	So tell me, like, what was, you know, as somebody who's modeling, you're in that world.
	You know, I have friends.
	I'm from LA, so I have a lot of friends that are in that world.
	And it's, you got to kind of follow the rules and guidelines of what they have.
	How did you all of a sudden say, I like what this guy has to say, Trump?
	And then what's the transition into now wanting to become a little more independent?
	So the first transition, I was in New York.
	I lived a few blocks from Trump Tower.
	I had known who Donald Trump was because he ran Wallman Rink.
	I believe Randon owned the figure skating or the ice skating rink that I started skating at when I was 10 or 11.
	Very strategic move.
	Yeah, right.
	So that's the only thing I knew about him, honestly.
	I had seen him like give out medals at one of our competitions.
	You literally knew nothing else about him.
	I knew that.
	And the fact that he had a TV show that a lot of my friends watched, but I never watched.
	Donald was the guy that owned the place that we go to, and that's about it.
	That's Mr. Duncan.
	He owns the place.
	He built the skating rink that the city was unable to build, apparently.
	It was a very big deal, I was told.
	All if you look at like any of my skating photos when I was like 10 or 11, just like the giant word Trump behind me, because he likes to put his name on stuff, obviously.
	So that was all I knew.
	I thought he was different and cool and angry.
	And as someone who was told for six years that I was never going to skate again, but wanting to get back on the ice, I thought it was pretty special watching a guy kind of be laughed at every day, just tell the world he's going to be president, despite being at 1% in the polls.
	And I think that kind of, that got me.
	That was it.
	The fact that he was an underdog.
	Yeah.
	So it wasn't even policies.
	You related to the fact that he was a central.
	That's the underdog.
	So then you go and you're like, okay, I'm going to help this, you know, be part of the campaign.
	And then at one point, are you kind of like, I'm really not a Republican.
	I'm more of an independent.
	What happened there?
	I think growing up in New York City, realizing I was more right than a lot of people, I thought I was right-wing or like right-leaning.
	But it turns out just if you're a centrist in New York, you're assumed to be right-leaning.
	That was all.
	I liked that he was pro-America.
	I'll give him that.
	Like when I was first starting out, it was like America first and that's it.
	And I like that he was an underdog.
	Like that was it, just like the underdog story because I needed that in my life.
	I think I met a lot of people around him that were more right than him, but I still kind of see him as a centrist.
	And I think when compared now, even to DeSantis, people are starting to realize he's possibly even more electable than a lot of people on the right.
	I'm sure we'll talk about that as well.
	But I don't see him as right, as I think a lot of people do.
	I definitely don't see myself that way either.
	But it's like a weird space to be in, I think, to be common sense nowadays because you're assumed to be right.
	Let me ask you a question about New York, Elizabeth.
	So I just was there this weekend and I love New York, but for a weekend, right?
	So you said that for New York, you thought you were right-wing.
	It just turns out you're a common sense, you know, moderate, normal person.
	A lot of people are fleeing New York these days at what, $30 billion of tax revenue left over the last few years.
	We just had Rudy Giuliani on the podcast, what, two weeks ago?
	The mayor who cleaned up New York City.
	In New York City, I mean, maybe it's because I'm just conscious of it these days.
	There's so much LGBT flags going around.
	I saw trans, like, just apparently just, you just, they're out there.
	The trans community is out there just trading, stomping.
	My question to you is like, so you're moderate, but in New York, you're, you would probably be considered right-wing MAGA.
	Crazy.
	Yeah, you're, you're a, you're, you'd be a lunatic there, but how do you grapple that, right?
	Like, the lunacy seems to be coming from that side of the aisle.
	Yet you're the bigot.
	You're the, you're, you're the weirdo for not just for just being a normal person.
	How do you deal with that?
	Um, I mean, I don't mind it, honestly.
	It's like a weird space to be in because there's people I'll talk to here who think I'm like way too far left.
	So I don't mind it.
	It's kind of nice.
	I go back and forth quite a bit, so I don't mind the balance.
	I think I get pretty sick of it if I stayed in one spot and like realized how much I didn't fit in.
	But I feel like the whole country is just secretly a country of outsiders.
	So I don't mind it at all.
	And I don't feel like you should get bogged down because in the center of like New York City, the center of the entire world, there's a lot of people that might disagree with you because if you go anywhere to the left or the right, they're going to be on your side.
	I'm curious.
	I know it's not an appropriate question to ask, but I think it's public.
	You're how old?
	1995.
	You're June 26th.
	Get out of here.
	That's Brooklyn's birthday.
	Yeah.
	My daughter's born on June 20th.
	It's our anniversary as well, June 26th.
	Okay.
	So you're 27, about to be 28.
	Okay.
	So 27, Harvard Extension, Harvard, University of Pennsylvania.
	Are you doing Wharton or are you going just to UPenn?
	I'm at the School of Social Policy and Practice.
	I have my last class tonight, actually.
	You're done with that?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Congratulations.
	So here's my question for you: because we don't know what it's like.
	All our ages start with the number four.
	And some of us would like to say starts with a number three, but it's all four.
	We're all in the force here, fully committed.
	He just turned 40.
	For the third time, yeah.
	For the third time.
	That happened again.
	But the question is the following.
	You said I was, you know, I was more, you know, Trump camp and this, this, that.
	And I realize I'm not a Republican than independent.
	Is anything with school teachers today that you're still in school?
	Are they, have they influenced any of your policies or your views while you're going to school in a season like this?
	I don't think my views, because I've gotten very lucky with doing school, partially online, taking my time, taking a little longer than I should have.
	Obviously, doing work on the side, that would probably change my mind about anything they would tell me.
	But I've seen, I mean, the things I've seen in school, I don't want to say anything as I'm still in school right now, but I mean, you can't.
	It's very hard to escape without being completely radicalized.
	Like every class has some kind of undertone of liberalism, everything.
	Yeah.
	So that's the part.
	So what are some examples of that?
	Like when you say the undertone, how much of it is under the surface?
	How much is this full-on explicit?
	What have you experienced?
	I mean, like the actual students, very explicit.
	Before I went to Penn, I spoke to like an alum because I was very curious about like the anti-Israel sentiment on campus.
	And I mean, she warned me, kind of what I was kind of expecting, but a little afraid of.
	I think that's the worst part, like the anti-Semitism, anti-Israel bias.
	That part's really scary.
	I think Columbia and NYU are some of the worst in the country, which is crazy because New York is full of Jews.
	That's kind of all I knew.
	I didn't know how few Jews there were in the country growing up in New York because I thought everyone was Jewish.
	So that's pretty scary.
	But I mean, it's hard.
	It's every single class.
	And it's from current events to like, you know, Roe versus Wade being overturned, meaning that we're mourning in class instead of studying.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	That's what we don't know.
	We were mourning when Tupac died.
	That was the situation.
	That was.
	Yeah, the teacher even was sitting there.
	What a sad day.
	I think my friend at NYU said when Trump won in 16, they all wore black to school for two weeks because it was America's funeral.
	Wasn't it?
	Yeah.
	And they literally started bringing in emotional support ponies and like literally they brought in, they had like sessions where people had.
	What did one of our girls here said that she lost friends because she didn't post black Instagram scores?
	Like, why don't you post this?
	Like, what do you mean?
	Why didn't I post it?
	It's almost like the pressure to have to post it.
	You know, my kids right now are going through the age where there's bullying going on.
	Okay.
	And, you know, Dylan doesn't get bullied.
	He's choked me out.
	Dylan's the one that is the kid everybody wants to be friends with.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because he's like, if you're friends with Dylan, you're scored away.
	He gets the girls.
	He gets all that stuff.
	That's Dylan.
	He's got the energy.
	Senna is the center of all attention.
	You know, she's like in the class.
	She's a girlfriend everybody wants to have.
	So Senna's friends are the pretty friends and all this stuff.
	Brooklyn is home kicking it with Melbourne Papa.
	She's chilling, right?
	But Tico is going through the phase at 11 years old where things are happening.
	People are saying things.
	Conversations are being had.
	It's being pushed.
	He's coming home.
	He's asking the questions.
	Why did they say this?
	Why is this happening?
	And you have to know if a person comes home today and they don't have somebody to talk to, to reason with, most of the time, unless if this kid has got a strong backbone character at that age, you're going to cave because your entire MO in school when you're younger is to what?
	To conform and to be popular.
	You want to be cool.
	You want people to like you.
	You want to be like, man, they don't like me.
	Well, she said I'm stupid.
	You know, she said, what a dumb thing.
	And you're like, oh, my God, she said that.
	And he said this.
	So you're so much trying to join the club.
	And imagine, like, even if when we went to school, how much do you remember when we went to school?
	How much do you remember politics being involved?
	Zero.
	I didn't, since, because me and Paul were both in the military, I didn't know what left or right or anything was till I got out and I moved to Los Angeles.
	Then I was like, holy shit, like the Trump situation made me go, oh my God, is it that?
	Is it that bad that they don't want to lose that control and that power?
	Did you hear anything in school?
	Left or right?
	I don't remember.
	I mean, listen, it would happen.
	Some things would happen and people would make their comments.
	But, you know, to be everybody dresses black in school because of what happened, Trump and Roe v. Wade, everybody's mourning instead of, it is a, it's got to be a weird season today.
	One lady I'm talking to who's one of the most powerful recruiters in the insurance industry, she's the executive.
	She hires C-suites for companies.
	So she hires all the C-suites for companies.
	We're having a conversation.
	I said, you know, half the battle right now.
	She's a little older than me.
	Your kids are in their 20s.
	I said, you know, the challenge with parenting today is the goal is to make sure you don't screw your kids up too much.
	Okay.
	Because it's like you're having to deal with how hard it is to be a parent today, but it's got to be even much harder to be a kid today.
	Oh my God.
	From the angles you're being targeted.
	Was it like that for you in high school as well or not really?
	I went to high school online because I wanted to go to the Olympics.
	But in middle school, I was bullied really badly.
	Not over politics, but I mean, I ate lunch in the bathroom for months.
	Like I was really bullied.
	So thinking back now, if that ended up being political, I don't know what I probably would have done just to get to eat lunch with my friends.
	Did that toughen you up a little bit with me?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, listen, it is what it is.
	Favorite figure skating movie?
	I mean, Ice Princess.
	Ice Princess.
	Yeah, okay.
	Of course.
	There aren't that many to choose from.
	Yeah.
	And then favorite figure skaters.
	There's somebody that you, you know, like a lot of people.
	There's a Russian skater named Evany Plushenko, who's the reason I started skating.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	There's a, I remember there's a picture of me and Mary Lou Retton.
	And I'm introducing her.
	And I remember I'm standing next to her.
	I'm like, Mary Lou Retton, she was like, I don't know how tall she is.
	She's got to be like 4'10 or 4's.
	They're a feminist.
	They're even smaller than figure skater.
	Yeah, but who's the one, Mogachini?
	What's the one?
	Dominica Muciano.
	Dominica Muciano.
	She's a feminist as well.
	Yeah, she got your sports list.
	She follows the podcast.
	She follows the podcast.
	On Twitter, we go back and forth.
	But Mary Lou Retton, Tiny, are figure skaters also tiny?
	They're pretty small.
	Okay, you're not small, though.
	You're tall.
	No, it wasn't good for me.
	I was supposed to do pairs, actually, because I was so tiny.
	And then after I got injured, I came back and I'd grown probably like 10 inches and gained like 80 pounds.
	And I realized, oh, that was out the window.
	Done.
	Done.
	So height doesn't help in that world.
	After 5'2, you're pretty screwed.
	Yeah.
	Well, it helps in modeling, though.
	It's a completely different space.
	I'm like a tiny bit too short for that and then too tall for that.
	So you're right in the middle.
	So that's why you go into politics.
	Yes, where I'm also right in the middle.
	Yeah, but some people would say you also think Trump's in the middle.
	And that would drive some people insane.
	Today, people think people think Rogan is a Republican today.
	He's far right.
	Someone said that to me yesterday.
	They're like, yeah, that guy, Joe Rogan, he's like super strong, like far right guy.
	I'm like, Joe Rogan?
	He was a Bernie Sanders supporter.
	But we showed this on the podcast the other day with the cartoon stick figure thing with Elon Musk about basically how far the left has gone.
	And you can make the case that some of the people on the right have also a little far gone.
	But I think if you're comparing apples to apples, yeah, this thing right here, the left has kind of lost their mind a lot of times.
	This thing right here.
	2008.
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	Can you scroll in on that?
	Punch in?
	Center.
	Yep.
	So nothing's changed.
	It's just a lot has changed.
	But center went to the right, and a bunch of the people on the left are kind of like now seen as Republicans.
	You constantly hear things like, if JFK was a candidate today, you'd be Republican.
	Let's hit some issues.
	So with Bill Clinton, you know what I'm saying?
	We're going to some issues.
	I'm okay.
	Okay, so first issue I want to hit up is what happened with you and your ex over the weekend, Chelsea Handler.
	So this is pretty wild.
	You text me in the middle of the night.
	Yeah.
	And I look at this.
	I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
	So apparently Adam has triggered Chelsea Handler, where her team made a video, edited, with Adam responding to Adam as an alpha man, and you should see what she had to say.
	Rob, please play this clip and we'd like to get a little bit of reaction.
	Easily triggered.
	Three men in their 40s and somebody in their 20s.
	You're easily triggered.
	Don't want to.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Play this.
	45% of working women ages 25 to 45 by 2030 will be non-married, no kids, single.
	Okay.
	So you might say, well, what's wrong with that?
	Okay.
	I'll tell you what's wrong with that.
	Nothing.
	I usually don't do things like this, but when I have to listen to men talk like that, I have no choice but to sedate myself with drugs and alcohol.
	Lately, I've been loud and proud about my status as a single, unmarried, childless, wild woman.
	And apparently some men cannot handle that.
	Every time I go on Instagram, I stumble upon SDE morons like this guy pontificating about how unhappy women like me must be.
	If you think that you're going to be 45 years old, no kids, not married, and that you're going to genuinely be fulfilled in life because you made money, best of luck to you, honey.
	Best of luck to you, honey.
	That clip was posted to an Instagram account called Alpha Motivation Zero.
	You got the zero part right.
	Anybody that follows that account is getting zero Pikachu.
	I'm sorry, but if the child-free joyride I'm on triggers you, here's a hint.
	If you need daily alpha content to remind you to be alpha, you might not be an alpha.
	Take it from an alpha.
	And the truth is, studies show that single women live longer and are happier.
	You want to know why?
	Because they wake up every day and they don't have to listen to like you.
	Anyway, I have to go because my single unmarried ass is about to perform at my sold-out comedy show.
	I'd invite you, but there are no tickets left.
	Bye.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	So what was your first reaction when you saw that, by the way?
	Well, does anything scream, I'm so happy at chugging vodka at 9 a.m.
	I'm so happy with my life as I'm funneling vodka as soon as I wake up.
	So clearly she's triggered.
	Clearly, if I'm in her position right now, I'm doing everything I can to justify my life's decisions.
	And it's one of those things where don't get mad at me, Chelsea Handler.
	Get mad at the facts.
	All I was doing is reading a report from Morgan Stanley, pretty credible source.
	They gave a report called the she economy, right?
	Not the economy, the she economy.
	And essentially what they did was state some facts about how modern day feminism has, I guess, empowered women to, you know, work, get that bag, make that money.
	That's great.
	But what are the ramifications of those decisions?
	Well, the ramifications is you might end up like Chelsea Handler, alone, single, no man in your life, and just banging a bunch of random dudes that you meet on Hinge and Ryan Bumble.
	And if that's what you want out of your life, follow the Chelsea Handler path.
	But if you want to be a beautiful, feminine woman like our friend over here today, maybe you balance having a career, but also understanding that you should also be a feminine, beautiful woman.
	Last point.
	She called herself, take it from an alpha.
	No dude wants an alpha chick with packing BDE, telling him what to do.
	And I responded on Twitter.
	I don't know if we can pull that up.
	I said, maybe that's why guys like 50 Cent, Joe Cloy, and the chef, whatever, I forget the Bobby Flay, basically hit it and quit it.
	Because, yeah, they'll bang you out, Chelsea, but they're not going to wife you up.
	And at the end of the day, I think that is what a woman is looking for.
	Newsflash, honey.
	Men don't want alpha chicks with BDE.
	Maybe that's why 50 Cent, Bobby Flay, and Joy K hit it and quit it.
	At 48, your beauty and humor for sure have faded.
	You drown yourself with alcohol and drugs to sedate your sorrow.
	And then I took a line from Wedding Crashers.
	Now go comatose for me, baby.
	What do you think about this?
	That was a lot.
	It was.
	I don't know about the hitting and quitting it situation.
	I'm not a guy.
	That's possible.
	I don't know.
	I got married when I was very young and people seemed very unhappy about that.
	What, you're still married?
	I am still married.
	I know, right?
	I didn't say happily.
	I didn't say.
	Wow.
	There's still an opportunity, but you said not happy.
	No camback.
	No, I'm joking.
	So, but what do you think were you when you got married?
	I was 23.
	People thought I was absolutely bad shit.
	Most people thought I was pregnant, which I was not.
	I don't know.
	I think it's weird.
	I think the entire world seems to be very big on encouraging people to do things that might make them feel better about themselves so that everyone can be miserable together.
	Like that kind of seems like what it is.
	From middle school, people are bullying me.
	People really don't like when anyone does something that might make them happy or different because they want everyone to be miserable together, you know?
	Tel Sri Loves Company.
	By the way, do you know her story?
	Do you know what happened to her when she was a kid?
	Telsey?
	Yeah.
	Do you know what happened to her when she was a kid?
	So apparently, so I was actually like curious to know, like, why is this girl so she knows she does not seem happy?
	And then you see some of her clips.
	Happy people don't try to convince people they're happy.
	Right.
	You know how somebody who is, what happened, Adam?
	No, he's pulling up another.
	You know how somebody is, you know, trying so hard to convince you that they're good or they're happy or they're successful or they're smart.
	There's typically a very deep insecurity pain.
	There's something there, right?
	So for example, you ask Michael the question, who's the greatest of all time?
	Michael says it's unfair because there's a lot of different guys that came before me.
	He never says, I'm the greatest of all time.
	You ask LeBron.
	LeBron says, what?
	I'm the greatest of all.
	It's a different perspective.
	This girl's brother died at seven or eight years old.
	And a family had such a hard time with it that apparently they stopped, you know, paying attention to her.
	And she went through that pain as a kid of what happened there.
	Okay.
	So you don't become like this by accident.
	She's gone through numbers of therapy sessions.
	Conan O'Brien had her on talking about why'd you have a guy pee on you in the middle of the ocean and you post a video.
	There's a video that came out live about her with sex tape and all this stuff.
	I really want her to be out there.
	This is an older tape.
	You know, it's almost like a person you talk to that offends you first in case you are going to make them feel bad to kind of belittle you to feel better about themselves.
	You kind of feel like she's going through that.
	And quite frankly, here's a challenge.
	How many followers does she have?
	Go to her account, Twitter, how many followers?
	Just click on a link.
	What is it?
	7.8 million?
	Yeah.
	7.6 million.
	She gets a lot of eyeballs.
	A lot of people follow her.
	She's admired by people from that space.
	If you actually go to the tweet that she tweeted and read the comments under her.
	So go to the video that she tweeted and watch the comments.
	So it's not like she's alone here.
	Zoom in a little bit.
	So is he wearing a suit?
	to a misogyny discussion.
	Oh man.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	The first one.
	The reason I chose to be single is because of men like this.
	There's an overwhelmingly large number of men with what is it?
	Maturity of, what is it?
	Mute?
	Maturity.
	Maturity of babies who think it is my job to be the mother.
	Is it shocking I would choose fun vacations doing stuff with friends and making money over that?
	And then some guy responds back, LOL, you let random men online dictate how you live your life.
	Remember your interview with Kumani and all you could do is focus on the facts that he's a Muslim if it was strange.
	Anyways, so there's a lot of people.
	I'm almost 49, childless, unmarried, and quite happy to not have to pick up after a jerk-a jerk wad.
	Jerkwad, man.
	Jerkwad, man.
	I have my dog and cat for the company.
	And I have it.
	I mean, that's the world.
	I have my dog and my cat.
	As long as she's got a vibrator, she's happy as hell.
	That's the common rate.
	And that comes from, too, Adam.
	You guys know this.
	She was on the Chelsea Handler show, which was like successful.
	And she was out there.
	It used to be very funny 20 years ago.
	No, dude, hilarious.
	The writers were dope.
	Everything was on point.
	Once that window closes, then you got nothing going on.
	You're sitting there drinking.
	She has to come at people like you to make herself relevant again.
	I'm really good friends with Joe Coy, and I think that whole going on tour with him and we're dating and everything was just to big up her name to draw his audience.
	Now she's selling out places again because of that stuff.
	That's how Hollywood works, bro.
	She's not relevant.
	Now she's relevant again.
	Nobody cares about what she does.
	I generally don't care.
	Live your life, get married, don't get married.
	I literally could care less about it.
	I don't wake up and think about Chelsea Handler.
	But who I do care about are the women that I speak to.
	We all know I do a show, Sawscast, that I interview hundreds of wide variety types of women.
	I've had women in their 40s break down in tears crying, basically saying, I'm alone.
	My eggs are frozen.
	I don't have a man.
	I used to be hot.
	Now guys don't look at me the same.
	I was fed a crock of shit by feminism.
	Okay.
	But taking it a step further, I also interview a ton of model volleyball that I was just at.
	I was just, we did Rolling Loud.
	We did Ultra.
	We just did Tortuga.
	Interview a ton of women who are all in their early 20s, in their mid-20s, and they're going down this path.
	I don't need no man.
	I don't like all that.
	And to see the writing on the wall of what the future will hold, I think is what I'm most concerned about.
	Nobody gives a shit about what Chelsea does with her life.
	It's the fact that her 8 million followers or whoever's going to her show are going to be fed this bullcrap.
	And when I see women cry, break down, wish that they had a better life than what they have now, I think that's the biggest problem.
	By the way, do you have that clip about her day in the life of a modern?
	We played it a couple months ago, a month ago.
	I don't want to play it again.
	We played it.
	It's pretty.
	But that to me is indicative of what's going on.
	She wakes up at 6 a.m.
	She says she takes an edible, masturbates, goes back to bed at noon.
	Then she flies to Paris and she meets a random dude on Raya, bangs him, then, you know, just lives her life.
	Then she basically puts on a VR set of goggles, goes into the metaverse.
	She's not a real person.
	She does this stuff to capitalize on an audience to make money.
	The problem is, if you're a gal who's just an accountant and you're focused on your career and you're 43 and you follow Chelsea, nobody cares about you.
	You go home to your dog, your cat, your vibrator, and that's your life.
	And you know when this is going to catch up on her?
	When she's in her, let's say 70s, 80s.
	Hopefully she lives that long and she's not feeling well or shit's going downhill.
	No kids are going to be there.
	No husband's going to be there to help her.
	Who are you going to go to?
	You're going to just have help that you pay for when you want somebody that loves you and is genuinely caring for you to be there to help you.
	What is she?
	She's almost 50?
	She's 49.
	It ain't.
	Yo, it's happening.
	It looks like she's 49.
	Yeah, because that's what Vodka does.
	That's exactly.
	Well, you know, this goes back to a deeper issue.
	Remember the Wall Street Journal story we talked about, the decline in American values?
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	About not wanting kids, not wanting family.
	Somebody asked a question.
	Somebody asked a question.
	And I think it's important for you to respond to this.
	So somebody said, okay, Adam, so you're saying she's this, she's in her 40s, she's that.
	She has no kids.
	She has no this.
	You're in your 40s.
	You're not married.
	You have no kids.
	Why can you judge her by people cannot judge you?
	That was a question I was asked.
	I think it's a very good question for you to respond to.
	I think that's a, I get that question all the time.
	Are you basically saying that men and women are the same?
	I think it takes a while.
	It takes years for a man to mature to reach his status.
	You know, they say that men are success objects and women are beauty objects.
	By the time you're 40, Chelsea, your beauty has faded.
	Have you ever seen the sexual market value chart?
	Men are judged on their resources, their money, their age, their income, their game, their personality.
	There's a whole host of things that men are judged on.
	Okay.
	Women, 80% of the chart is their beauty.
	Newsflash, guys like pretty women.
	All right.
	You're a model.
	Congratulations.
	Like you wouldn't be modeling if guys found you unattractive.
	That's what men are judged on.
	And I speak to so many young guys out there that are 19, 20, 25.
	They haven't hit their mark yet.
	Women aren't paying attention to them.
	They have no money.
	They have no game.
	They have nothing.
	I'm like, dude, it takes time to marinate.
	Women reach their success on the front end.
	Okay.
	I know plenty of girls in Miami that are 21, 25, who basically get invited on yachts, billionaires' yachts, just because they're pretty.
	I'm sure you've been there.
	You're on Palm Beach.
	You get it.
	No dudes are getting invited on yachts.
	You need to work your ass off to buy the fucking yachts.
	Okay?
	So men and women are not the same.
	And the difference is my outlook, my perspective.
	I'm not that dude being like, I'm single, bro.
	All I do is smash and that's what I want to do the rest of my life.
	It's like, no, I've had my fun.
	I've done it all.
	I've made money.
	I've made connections.
	Now I'm actually looking for the next phase of life.
	So no, the two are not the same.
	At 43, now I'm at my peak, money, financial status, my work.
	And now I have what is known as options.
	Chelsea is completely out of options.
	Are you saying?
	Are you saying she's your type?
	Is that kind of what I could say?
	Maybe 20 years ago, Chelsea.
	Do you like her?
	And is it like, do we need to say Chelsea?
	If you're watching this, I would love to have a conversation with Chelsea.
	It would be great for you guys to do that.
	The chance of me wifing up a 48-year-old has-been Chelsea handler is non-existent.
	If she has a younger 24-year-old sister, holler.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So any comments from your end or can we skip to the next story?
	No, we should skip to Chelsea.
	Let's get serious.
	Let's go to the next story.
	We have to put that out.
	I'll say one thing here.
	Yeah.
	Because a lot of people are going to cut this up and be like, he's a misogynist.
	He hates women.
	I love women.
	I hang out with women.
	My best friends are women, like other than my actual guy friends, my co-host of my show, female.
	I love women.
	I get along with women.
	I'm friends with women.
	This is not misogyny.
	Okay.
	It's I want to see the best for women.
	And I don't think Chelsea Handler's outcome is the best for women.
	Okay, good.
	Get it off your chest.
	It's it.
	I'm going to say Wu Sa.
	You sound a little like Donald Trump.
	No one loves women more than I love them.
	I love women.
	I love that ball.
	I grab them.
	You know what?
	All right.
	Okay, so let's grab this next story here.
	Kanye West, who lost fortune after anti-Semitic tirade, says he likes Jewish people again.
	That's kind of good news for me.
	I think he deleted that on the Instagram post.
	Yeah, it was an Instagram.
	He deleted it at all.
	I think he changed his mind already.
	Nick Fuentes was paid apparently $30,000 by Kanye West's presidential campaign.
	And that's a story that just came in a win.
	That's Yesterday the Hill.
	So let me read this story to you and see what your thoughts are on this.
	So Nick Fuentes was paid $30,000 by Kanye West's presidential campaign.
	Federal Election Commission filings revealed that 2020 presidential campaign of rapper Kanye West was paid far-right activist and white supremacist Nick Fuentes over $30,000 for archival services and a travel reimbursement.
	According to data from Federal Election Commission, he launched a long-shot run for president 2020 alongside former President Donald Trump, despite openly being a Trump supporter and earned about 60,000 votes on Election Day.
	Fuentes has been labeled a white supremacist by the Justice Department and is known for his racist anti-Semitic rhetoric.
	Kanye has also come under fire for anti-Semitic comments.
	What are your thoughts on this story?
	I knew that Fuentes was working for him.
	I think we all kind of saw that break a few months ago.
	Fuentes is an absolute monster.
	Like truly, I think I've seen a few of his clips explaining in terms of like cookies in an oven how 6 million Jews could not have possibly perished in the Holocaust.
	That's just the beginnings of the things that he says.
	So he's absolutely just despicable.
	I don't want to know how he got to Kanye.
	I don't know what happened to Kanye.
	I was a giant fan of Kanye's growing up and up until recently, listened to his music all the time.
	I loved skating to it and working out to it.
	And I was, yeah, he was kind of like the underdog inspiration in his own way as well.
	I've been always, yes.
	I've loved Kanye forever.
	So very disappointing.
	I launched a Holocaust education project in honor of this whole situation called you can find at educaykanye.com.
	But yeah, it was really disappointing.
	I think he's going through something because normal people do not only want to associate with Fuentes, but want to hire him to make him president.
	So it doesn't make a lot of sense.
	I think if something's off or sick, then we should just let him get help.
	Do you think Kanye can do anything to because apparently this whole story about him watching Jonah Hill, you know, whatever the 21 Jump Street and kind of changed my mind like Jew like Jewish people again, all this stuff.
	And this was a story about a month ago or three weeks ago.
	Do you think, you know, he can do anything to get back to who he was before?
	Or is this a permanent career, you know, done decision that's going to ruin him for years and years to come?
	No, I think he can come back.
	He can come back.
	A, America loves an underdog.
	But I think people love when people grow up, apologize, take responsibility, and move on.
	And I think this is a very easy thing to apologize for.
	You know, there's no reason he can't say, hey, really was going through something, had no idea the garbage that was coming out of these people's mouths.
	I apologize.
	And I'll visit a Holocaust Museum.
	I'll focus on writing music and making amends and take it from there one day at a time.
	Is it kind of like if he wrote a song instead of Jesus Walked, he says, Jesus never walked.
	Can I do it?
	He says Jesus was a Jew.
	Maybe that's like the next remix he does to see what happens.
	So there is a possibility that in the future you could figure skate and listen to his music again.
	Yeah.
	I mean.
	Possibly.
	That's a tough one.
	You don't sound committed to it.
	He's known for his music.
	He's not known for politician Kanye West.
	So I will always admire his music.
	Okay.
	Adam, any thoughts on this one?
	Yeah, of course.
	Nick Fuentes.
	Nick Fuentes specifically.
	Well, I just covered a story that he did with my friend Pearl, Pearlie Davis, Pearly Things, massive YouTuber in the Manosphere Red Pill Space.
	And she invited him on the show.
	And listen, when you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
	And you sit down with a guy like Nick Fuentes, who is 24, and now he's the expert on the Holocaust.
	Right.
	Okay.
	By the way, it's interesting that Kanye is able to thread the needle of, because white supremacist, anti-Semite.
	So it's like Kanye will, you know, he'll tune out the anti-Semitic stuff.
	I'm sorry, tune out the anti-black stuff, but just kind of focus on the anti-Semitic stuff.
	It's like, I know you hate blacks and Jews and dogs, but I'm just going to focus on the Jewish part with you there, Nick.
	So Nick, I think, actually reached out.
	What was the situation, Rob?
	So I basically responded to Pearl and I was basically like, look, Pearl, stay in your lane.
	You know, if you want to be in the dating red pill space, you know, why get into debates over the merits of slavery or the accuracy of slavery and the Holocaust?
	It's like, what's going to, what's the benefit for your specific career?
	Do you know who this girl is, Pearl Davis?
	I don't, no.
	Okay, I'm sure you've seen her online.
	Take a picture.
	But I basically was like, you know, your reputation is who you are, even if it's not who you are.
	So, Nick, you ever seen this girl?
	Oh, yeah.
	She's like, okay, gotcha.
	So even, and I think Nick said, hey, I'm not a white supremacist.
	What was the response?
	Well, Nick's camp reached out and they wanted to see if you'd be interested in sitting down with him.
	The quote was, he's being smeared as a white supremacist by Adam.
	But I am one of many examples of proof to the contrary as I am a black man.
	And this was his middleman.
	And what is Funtes?
	That's a Latin last name, right?
	He's Latino.
	Funtes.
	And he's just saying outlandish shit.
	Yeah, well, it's not like I put the word white supremacist out there.
	You have Wikipedia, the guy who's got a lot of people.
	Wikipedia.
	Google the guy.
	It's the first thing, the American white supremacist political commentator.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	So all I'm doing is reading.
	I'm not defending the guy at all whatsoever.
	But be careful when you're saying just because Wikipedia says something about somebody that that's who they are.
	That's not how I judge it.
	What has happened is if these stories are surrounding you, there's a reason for it.
	Some of it is probably because you're trying to get eyeballs.
	And I saw him, I think, in one clip.
	If this is the same guy that he was following Ben Shapiro while he's crossing the street with his kids, I think is it the same guy?
	Okay.
	Listen, if you're doing that to get the eyeballs, great.
	You worked.
	It's working for you.
	People are talking about you.
	But there's certain things, you know, I don't know if you want certain things to be your identity out there.
	So maybe you can come on a podcast.
	You guys can talk to each other.
	Look, maybe I'll bring him down to the Holocaust Museum in Miami Beach, and we'll sit down and have a cup of coffee right there.
	Or we can go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C., and let's see if that's something that he'd be open to.
	Maybe you'd like to join us.
	Sure.
	We'll discuss.
	Okay, so let's talk about Trump and DeSantis.
	I know as a model and somebody that goes to University of Pennsylvania and you're about to graduate tonight, your last class, are you comfortable talking about this?
	Or could you get an F if you give commentary on this?
	So let's get right into it.
	Trump holds wider, wide lead over DeSantis among Georgia GOP voters in 2024 primary poll despite the ex-president's endorsement flops against top state Republicans last year.
	Okay, so this is a story from the insider that just came out.
	Let me read some of the highlights of this story here.
	So, okay, so a poll of likely Republican primary votes on Georgia found that former President Donald Trump leads former Governor Ron DeSantis 51 to 30 in a potential 2024 race.
	The survey also found that Trump retains an average with the party's most conservative voters, as well as those who are older and those who do not have a college degree.
	DeSantis performed better in the poll among Republican college graduates and was competitive with Trump among higher income members of the party.
	The poll showed that 89% of GOP voters said the recent indictment of Trump by the Manhattan District Attorney's Office over his involvement in a hush money payment to the adult film actor Stormy Daniels shouldn't bar him from seeking the presidency again.
	What are your thoughts when it comes down to Trump and DeSantis for 2024?
	I have a lot of thoughts just because I live here and this is all anyone ever wants to talk about for some reason.
	I think DeSantis is severely overhyped.
	I think people really want to move on from Donald Trump on both sides.
	Even those that love him, I think secretly dream about a time where they can go to work and not be asked about their opinion on Donald Trump.
	I think people think DeSantis is that guy because after 2016, people still don't understand why Trump won and really want someone to be the next something.
	And they think a Republican with 5% of Trump's personality could do that.
	They think DeSantis is the guy.
	I don't see it.
	I don't think this is going to last.
	I think the indictment, unfortunately, is probably one of the first indictments Trump's going to see.
	We saw what happened to his poll numbers after that.
	And I think that's what we're going to see for the next year.
	Okay, so you're 27.
	You're about to finish MBA.
	You're getting your marriage.
	It's a master's.
	You're about to finish your master's.
	You're married.
	You're living in Palm Beach and New York back and forth.
	What policies, what matters to you the most today when it comes down to candidates?
	So if you were to say, at this age, where I am, who I am, this is what matters to me.
	You know, I want to see this, this, this.
	What would those items be for you, those policies be?
	Honestly, it's weird if you ask me.
	Six months ago, I could list a bunch, and now I'm just like, let's not go into war with Russia and China.
	Like, I'm just scared for what the hell is going to happen to America.
	And I want whatever comes after Joe Biden to actually protect us from the world, which really wants us dead.
	Like, it's that simple.
	So I'd say whoever can keep America safe and keep a country in existence for my future children, that's number one right now.
	What's two?
	I don't think they're in order.
	I'd say foreign policy-wise, America first, very simple.
	When it comes to in the country, I think, for example, keeping something like abortion, like I consider myself pro life, but I think keeping Americans kind of stable and not arguing over how far left or how far right we can be based on whose administration is in power, like that's a normal thing that we should be able to agree on.
	I think DeSantis is too far right on that.
	For example, we just saw that.
	Six weeks.
	Yeah.
	I think Trump actually said when, I could be wrong, when Texas passed the six-week, the same rule.
	I think Trump said it was a little complex and he wasn't sure if he agreed with it.
	So I think it was 2021, I believe.
	I think a balance is very necessary.
	I think people really want to see the right beat the left or left beat the right, depending on, you know, what side you're on.
	I just want a normal country.
	I want a balance.
	I want harmony.
	I want people not punching each other in the street based on who they voted for in 2016.
	And I want to know that people are safe, the kids are safe, the religious liberty is safe, just very basic common sense American values that I grew up with that I'm kind of scared are disappearing.
	So let me read that story for you.
	And I want to get your thoughts on this.
	Florida lawmakers passed six-week abortion law.
	This is a Wall Street Journal story.
	They have passed a bill banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, a strict measure that indicates Republicans aren't backing away from efforts to curtail abortion access, even in the states where such efforts may carry political risk.
	A poll in March by the University of North Carolina found that 75% of Floridians oppose banning abortion starting at six weeks of pregnancy, albeit with no exceptions for rape and incest.
	The final hurdle for the bill is a signature from Governor Ron DeSantis, who has said he would sign legislation limiting abortion if it crosses his desk.
	If enacted, the bill would ban most abortions in the state and with limited exceptions, including for rape and incest and for certain medical emergencies.
	Since the Supreme Court overturned Roby Wade last June, roughly a dozen states have banned most abortions.
	So you're not with six weeks.
	I think majority of Americans, if I'm not mistaken, are uncomfortable with that.
	They are, yeah.
	Yeah, it's that simple.
	Americans don't support this.
	You know, and you want an America that's living in harmony.
	And when issues are that serious and that nuanced and that emotion over so many people, I don't think the whole like beat the left, beat the right, you know, debate and wokeness and, you know, social media going viral, like all these things that politicians are focusing on right now.
	Don't think that's necessary for an issue as serious as abortion.
	You think that's going to be a big top topic of discussion for 2024.
	You think the left's going to use that a lot, depending on who the nominee is, but yes, for sure.
	Let's just say an energized guy named Joe Biden is the nominee and he's going up against a Trump or a DeSantis.
	How different would it be?
	Um, I think if DeSantis is the nominee, with the six-week, you know ban, I think it'd be more prevalent.
	But no people are going to bring it up for sure.
	I think that was the big topic of the midterms.
	We kind of realized.
	I mean, I see it going on on college campuses, I see what's happening with young people and that's, I'd say, their top three issues, like abortion is one of them.
	Colleges and universities, they're talking about abortion.
	Yeah well, don't forget, just during the midterms uh, it was supposed to be a red wave.
	Yeah right, I mean, for months and months and months, it's a red wave.
	We all this always happens, the incumbent president when the, when he's in there, and the the, the there's a midterm election and then what we saw happen was a red teardrop, basically.
	So they took over the, the House OF Representatives.
	They didn't do anything with the Senate and one of the major reasons why was this Dobbs decision overturning Roe Vs Wade.
	Yeah uh, you know there's speculation that Mitch Mcconnell manufactured this because he didn't want to take over.
	That's bullshit.
	I think this was uncalculated and a horrible decision by the Republicans.
	They should have waited until after the midterms to do this.
	So clearly this is a major issue, especially for women.
	Now if when it comes to Desantis in Florida, this makes no sense to me, because if you're, if you're, if you're trying to win a primary okay um, you maybe appeal to the base okay, maybe that works for you.
	But we all know that basically the way that it works is during the primary, you appeal to your base and then you pivot in the general election to appeal to the center.
	Nobody in America.
	There is no appetite for a six-week abortion ban.
	There's no appetite.
	We can have conversations about 12 weeks, 15 weeks pro-life pro-choice, pro-choice nobody.
	This is draconian at best.
	Not nobody, it's not nobody, it's just not the majority.
	So so it's not a nobody thing when you say that.
	And the Mitch Mcconnell?
	You don't know if that did happen or not as a strategy.
	Nobody knows that.
	Nobody can sit there and say that wasn't the case.
	We're all speculating here.
	These are our opinions that we're given it's not 100 certainty that we know one way or another to do what.
	What is kind of weird is, after what happened with Roe V Wade, everybody in the country already knows where Desantis stands.
	You don't need to do this like.
	This is not a a policy to attack, to get the conservative people to say oh, he's even more conservative than I thought I. You know, I don't know if this is the right direction to go, but you know he's choosing to go this direction.
	Why do you think he's doing this?
	Like if you're, if you're his strategist, if you're his chief strategist, and you're saying, all right, you got to run to the right of center, but everyone's saying the reason that people like you is because you're quote unquote left of Trump right right, right of Trump.
	Why would you do this?
	This makes no sense to me.
	Yeah, he also did it, didn't he sign at like 11 p.m in a room somewhere?
	He knows it's not going to be popular.
	He's not a stupid guy.
	Why would you do this pat, six weeks?
	Why would he do this?
	Yeah, why would he do this?
	Okay you're.
	You're either doing this because it's truly a belief that you have, and let's just say that's what he really believes in, based on his values and principles.
	They're thinking this is going to get people that weren't there for him to support him, which I believe he already has that vote.
	Maybe it's a position to differentiate himself from Trump to say, hey, I am not like Trump.
	While Trump is, you know, casual with this and he'll go up to whatever the numbers, 12 weeks or, you know, 16 weeks, 20 weeks, you know, I'm not going past six weeks could be a way of him wanting certain conservative people to, you know, say, okay, this guy's more conservative than we thought.
	There's so many different ways you can look at this here.
	I don't know strategically if this would be the policy I would touch if you want to become president after we saw what happened on midterms.
	I don't understand it strategically either.
	But like she said, he's not a dummy.
	He's a very smart guy.
	DeSantis, you know who DeSantis is?
	Here's who DeSantis is.
	You know how in a group text, you're with your friends and your buddies and everybody's talking shit and you're sending texts and one guy sends a picture of this.
	And you know how we kind of send stuff to we say stuff to each other with guys that maybe you wouldn't, you know, wouldn't do it in a year.
	You're referring to what is known as locker room talking.
	Well, you want to call her locker room talk with her.
	I would do this.
	I would do this to her and I would do that.
	I mean, let me tell you all this stuff, like guys that talk about him.
	He's the guy that would just do one emoji, LOL, but he would never say and engage.
	That's him.
	So you have to know who he is.
	Meaning, this guy has been thinking about this since he was very young, that one day this is going to happen.
	And he's careful who he takes pictures with.
	He's careful.
	He's that guy.
	Okay.
	This is not a Trump who's like, I don't give a shit, man.
	I'm doing this.
	I'm doing that.
	You don't like it.
	So there's a very different style.
	So if that's how he's branding himself and he decides to get away from that brand, we already have somebody that's away from that brand.
	Your brand is the opposite of Trump.
	Okay.
	Your brand is the safe guy.
	Your brand is the, you know, this is the guy that we settle down with.
	We have that brand.
	He's very safe.
	By the way, I think he's a strong leader.
	I think in a way, this also helps knowing he's probably careful with the decisions he's going to be making if he does become a president.
	I think he will make a good president.
	I think there's a part of him that he'll make a great president later on.
	It's just, you know, whether people are ready with him being there today and whether this was a good move at a time like this.
	I don't know.
	You got 20 other issues you can pick and choose from to go from.
	You can choose the border.
	You can choose economy.
	You can choose COVID.
	You can go after more Fauci.
	You can do education.
	You can go after the trans.
	You can do so many different things.
	This one's going to upset some people on the right that are pro-choice.
	And you said it.
	There's a lot of closet pro-choicers, by the way, on the right.
	Oh, 100%.
	Tommy Lauren made her name or lost her job with the colour.
	She's not closet, though.
	No, she's not a closet.
	No, no, I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
	Like, there are people that will say, I'm pro-life, but inside, listen, man, I kind of have to be pro-choice seven years ago.
	Nobody.
	There's a lot of closet pro-choicers that none of us know about.
	I'm not a male politician ever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But yeah.
	So, Elizabeth, if it comes down, so Trump, because you were involved with the campaign, right, in 2007?
	I was.
	So you obviously saw it firsthand.
	Trump did not get a fair shake.
	I don't care what anybody says.
	Before he won, all the investigation from Russia, the collusion to Draining the Swamp, and the media just turning on him.
	Nobody's ever seen anything like that because they all bowed down to the powers that be.
	If it came down to right now, are you voting for Trump or DeSantis if it comes down to that left or right?
	Trump DeSantis, I would vote for Donald Trump.
	You would 100% go for Donald Trump.
	And besides all the, like the thing that we just talked about, what's your, just from what you've seen in the past, are you just sticking to your guns because you're like, he is for the people and he sacrificed everything for us?
	Like such a basic, non-almost educated answer, but I just hate politicians.
	Like, I've just been around them so much, I cannot stand them.
	And he's a politician, and I don't like that.
	It's that simple.
	What do you not like about politicians?
	They're just rehearsed and much like we just talked about, the closeted pro-choice people.
	Like, they're just all horrible.
	Like, all politicians are.
	Correct.
	They'll tell you what you want to hear.
	It doesn't matter.
	They'll compromise anything as long as it's not a statement or like a decision that comes out of their mouth that doesn't come from like a hotel.
	Give us an example of it.
	Of somebody.
	I was just going to say, who would be the poster child?
	You think so?
	All of a truly any poster.
	What name did you say?
	I said DeSantis, but that's only because we've talked about now.
	Anyone before Donald Trump, anyone after Donald?
	Come on.
	Well, she's saying because he is a politician.
	Like Ted Cruz, when you look at Ted Cruz, you look at Ted Cruz.
	He just says what, like he's the typical cut-out board of a politician.
	He says what the people want to hear.
	You don't know who he really is as a human being.
	And she nailed it.
	I mean, Donald Trump was a businessman, but just said, you know what?
	I'm going to come in and I'm going to shake shit off.
	I don't think Ted Cruz is likable, but I think he's a dog.
	I don't think he's, you know, like I always go back to if we were in high school, right?
	To see who the person was in high school.
	Okay.
	So if you go to high school with this guy, you kind of know who he was.
	Okay.
	If I go to high school with you, I kind of know who you were.
	You go to high school with Ted, you know who he was.
	You know who Ted was.
	Who was Ted Cruz in high school?
	Probably on the debate team.
	He definitely was getting picked up.
	He was definitely a punchable face.
	He got a wedgie OE.
	100% somebody.
	He's probably a guy that was so condescending, making people.
	You know who he is?
	Ted Cruz, a movie character.
	You ready?
	I'm going to give it to you and you're going to go there.
	Ready?
	Ready?
	Go ahead.
	Goodwill hunting.
	How about them apples?
	He's that guy.
	Oh, wow.
	Really?
	He's that guy.
	Do you know which guy I'm talking about?
	100%.
	He's going to come in here and you recite things that you read online and then boom, boom.
	That's that guy.
	He is that smart and he wants to make you look like a moron.
	But guess what?
	He is still a dog.
	100%.
	He is still a dog.
	But politician through and through.
	I also understand.
	No, I don't think so.
	You don't think so?
	No, I think politician through and through to me is somebody that I get what she's saying.
	There's a difference between a statesman and a politician.
	There's still a few of them around.
	You don't have to like them.
	There's still a few of them around.
	There's some of them that will sell their soul just to have their career.
	Who would you say right now if you had to say politician, that's the person?
	Ethan McConnell's a politician.
	Ethan McConnell's a politician.
	I think for sure politician.
	I think there's a lot of them out there, but I think he's a politician.
	Schumer's a politician.
	Pelosi's a politician.
	The problem with this world is the longer you're in this world, the more you start being one and you don't even know it.
	It's that simple.
	That's a very culture.
	Yeah.
	Look, if you and I lived in a house, okay?
	And in this house, we're living with 20 different people.
	You and I are 22 years old.
	Okay.
	We're expected to live in this house for six months.
	It's on the beach.
	Okay.
	10 girls, 10 guys.
	Oh, wow.
	And it's a beautiful house.
	Party house.
	Jersey short type.
	Drinks on the house.
	Everything on the house.
	If 19 of the guys in this house are snorting, they're doing E, they're rolling, they're doing everything, how long until you are tempted to join the club?
	10:30 at night.
	The point is, there's power and influence.
	Of course.
	So the longer you're in the swamp, you eventually become aware of the people.
	Which is why term limits should be a number one priority moving forward.
	Did you see that guy give a speech?
	He was at the podium, and he's like, You guys tell me if this is the NBA or the NFL players.
	You ever seen this speech?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	He goes, All right, guys, give it to an audience.
	He's like, You tell me which sport you think this is.
	The NBA or the NFL is like 32 DUIs, multiple convictions.
	Four seconds.
	Go back.
	Put him played.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, watch this.
	Yeah, this is a great.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Watch this.
	Oh, this is.
	Okay, I'm seeing this.
	This kind of validates it.
	Is it NBA or NFL?
	Elizabeth, you ever seen this?
	Go back to the Skinner.
	36 have been accused of spouse.
	By the way, I want you to guess before he reveals it whether you think it's the NBA or NFL when he's done.
	Which is it?
	Is it NBA or NFL?
	36 have been accused of spousal abuse.
	Seven have been arrested for fraud.
	19 have been accused of writing bad checks.
	117 have directly or indirectly been bankrupted at least two businesses.
	Three have done time for assault.
	71, I repeat, 71 cannot get a credit card due to their bad credit.
	14 have been arrested on drug-related charges.
	8 have been arrested for shoplifting.
	21 currently are defendants in lawsuits.
	And 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year.
	How many of you think NBA?
	How many of you think NFL?
	Pause it, Rob.
	Pause it.
	Which one do you think?
	Elizabeth, you think it's the NBA or the NFL?
	So you got to say like the United States Congress?
	Yeah.
	It's the 435 members of the United States Congress.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	There you go.
	Proving your point.
	Yeah.
	I think that anyway, Congress approval ratings actually just increased 5% over the last year to a whopping 23% approval.
	We're at 75% disapproval.
	Not great numbers.
	No.
	Their Q score.
	What would it take to do term limits?
	I mean, because the people that are in charge of saying voting are the term limits on the term limits.
	But don't you feel like that?
	I mean, I agree with you 100%.
	Like, I'm like, when you see somebody like Joe Biden, obviously he's the worst one, but Nancy Pelosi actually speak, I'm like, you want to talk about embarrassed?
	I'm like, how, how they're all the same sad.
	You got Chuck Grassley.
	He's 117 years old.
	Okay, from Iowa.
	No, he's, yeah, he died.
	I thought you thought what they were weakened at Burning is his ass out there just coming in and voting.
	He's a hologram.
	You got Diane Feinstein, 98 years old.
	I mean, maybe that's generous.
	She might be 198.
	Yeah, she's scared.
	You got McConnell.
	You got Pelosi.
	You got Schumer.
	They're 80-plus years old running the country.
	If Mitch McConnell's not an alien, then I don't.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know if age is the problem or just being in that Jersey Shorehouse too long.
	If you start young, you're still done.
	You should be out by 40.
	I don't care if you, you know, if you're 89, you got an 84.
	That's fine.
	At least that Jersey Shorehouse would be much longer than you.
	Oh, my God.
	You got Snookie out there.
	What do you guys want to do?
	You want to play bingo?
	I don't know what they're doing all the time.
	But anyway, so.
	But I don't know, Elizabeth.
	I got to give you a little pushback right here.
	Okay, bring it.
	My grandma's 92 years old.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I love my grandma to death.
	Okay.
	I don't want her running the country at this point.
	Pat's dad is one of the wisest men I know.
	Gabriel Bedev.
	He's listening right now and he's got to yell at me.
	He's your number one fanboy.
	I love Jim Gabriel.
	I love him.
	It's my brother's name.
	Really?
	Mench.
	Mench.
	Gabriel Pippling.
	Mench.
	How old is Papa now?
	Turned 81 last week.
	Okay.
	And I mean this in the sincerest way.
	I don't want him running the country.
	I want his son running the country.
	Young, healthy, vibrant, dedicated.
	I want Gabriel being the consultant.
	I agree on that.
	The consiglier.
	I'm saying the age is not the issue.
	It's how long they've been there.
	Yeah, so you won't think it's both.
	So you're saying you want December 10.
	I think it's the 80s and 90s and 100-year-olds that are running the country.
	So you want Hunter Biden to run the country?
	I don't want Daniel Kane in the White House.
	Got it.
	Okay, no.
	What he's saying is he wants DeSantis.
	Adam wants DeSantis or Newsom.
	Even after the UFC fight, when you said you wanted Trump to hear?
	To hear?
	That was really cool when he walked in.
	That was so sad.
	I'm not going to lie.
	That was kind of dope.
	Yeah, it was a moment.
	You felt him coming.
	I didn't see him coming.
	You felt it.
	By the way, surprising events.
	Something very surprising happened, which I'm sure a lot of people are going to be shocked with.
	Mike Pence was booed at the NRA.
	What?
	Yeah, he was.
	Did you hear about that?
	In his home state?
	Yeah, it was in his home state.
	And Trump got a two-minute standing ovation at the event.
	In his speech, first speech since being indicted on felony charges, New York, Trump promised to remain a loyal friend and fearless champion of the country's largest gun rights lobbying group as he seeks to be a party's nominee for 2024 presidential election.
	He appeared to acknowledge the crowd's frosty response to Pence, his former running mate, the NRA event, was attended by several Republican hopefuls, including Florida governor Ron DeSantis and former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley, highlighting how the NRA's endorsement remains powerful and highly coveted amongst Republicans.
	How important is the NRA endorsement, by the way?
	It's big.
	It's very important.
	I think that's why, ironically, your boy DeSantis put out his anti-Trump Trump addict.
	I want to say the same day saying Trump was bad on the Second Amendment.
	Because, I mean, NRA guns like that, it's a lot bigger than people realize.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty wild.
	You know how you think about NRA right now?
	If somebody is a member of NRA, it's kind of like, oh my God, did you know?
	Yeah.
	He's part of the NRA.
	How could you be part of the NRA?
	And John F. Kennedy was a proud card-carrying member of the NRA.
	It was a very normal thing back in the days.
	Both the Dems and the Republicans wanted the endorsement.
	Now it's just on the right when it comes down to this.
	But if you were to say, Mike Pence, where will he peak?
	Okay.
	One, let's say he runs.
	Okay.
	How, like, what percent do you think is going to be his peak?
	Like, you know, you remember Herman Cain went all the way up.
	I think he had 18% at one point.
	Newt went to 23% or Sanders got to 20, 21%.
	So Ras Pro got to 19 or 20%.
	What do you think Pence is going to go to?
	I'll give you two answers here.
	Number one, I think, you know, high single digits, maybe it's, you know, 7%, 8%, 9% at best, right?
	Right now it's 2%.
	But we all know.
	Let me tell you who I think Mike Pence is going to be.
	You know, when it's, you know, it's NBA season right now, and you know, like, let's say, you know, the Dallas Mavericks need to win their final game in order to make the playoffs.
	And they're playing against the Houston Rockets.
	And Houston's been long out of the playoffs.
	They got no chance.
	But they want to beat the shit out of Dallas.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Or it's like the Miami Dolphins.
	They're not making the playoffs, but they're playing the Patriots.
	And all they want to do is be a spoiler.
	And they don't care.
	Their season's done.
	They know that they're not winning, but they have their sights on winning that last game of the season.
	Why?
	To ruin the Patriots season, to ruin Dallas Mavericks season.
	We just saw Dallas get eliminated from the playoffs.
	I don't think we understand the vendetta that Mike Pence has against Donald Trump.
	I don't think we're going to fully realize that until it gets so ugly on that debate stage with Trump, with DeSantis, with Pence, possibly with Chris Christie.
	We know Nikki Haley will be there, Tim Scott.
	We're going to see Mike Pence on stage saying, I was his vice president.
	He endangered my life and my family.
	He is unfit to be president.
	If you don't think that's going to, he's going to do it.
	Of course he is.
	And I still think that Trump will get the nomination.
	Of course.
	But what may happen, this is just my opinion, tear it down all you want, is that it's going to get so ugly and ugly and ugly that there's going to be a wounded candidate coming into the general election.
	And sleepy ass Joe Biden is just going to sleepwalk potentially into the presidency because there's going to be so much fighting on the Republican side of things.
	That's my opinion.
	But when you see people like the Pence Island, you know, you have the hell with that 2%.
	You have zero chance of touching Trump, let alone DeSantis.
	So I think all those people on that stage are either put there strategically, just like you said, to make them look like shit so that the left even is going to learn more stuff about them to give them talking points to talk shit.
	You know you're losing that race.
	But Trump is number one right now.
	The city is number two.
	Nobody's touching.
	Like, so those people, is it just for their resume, Pat?
	Like, I ran for president in 2024.
	It's a lost battle before you even go in.
	Like, what are you doing?
	You know what I mean?
	Why are you announcing?
	For what?
	Listen, if you've gone in that world, the world of politics, and you're going to plan on writing a book or Legacy Kids, you have to have your Wikipedia say former 2024 presidential candidate.
	Gotcha.
	Got you.
	Like, if I was any one of you that are born here, at one point, you have to figure out a way to say, Vincent O'Shaughness, 2032 presidential candidate, former presidential candidate.
	Can I get in for 2020?
	Can we do it for this one?
	I don't know if we can do it.
	But let's do it.
	I think that's a part of it.
	The other part of it as well is a lot of these guys run because they get a job afterwards.
	So there's a job that you're fighting for.
	Remember when Trump won, the day he won, they're like, well, typically when a candidate wins, they take a week off or a month off or they don't do anything.
	The guy was in the office the next day.
	I love it.
	And he was interviewing Romney that walked into his office.
	I don't know if you remember when Romney walked into this office.
	You're like, what the hell is Romney doing?
	And everybody's just meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, because this is like, hey, do you want a job?
	Let's talk about it.
	Do you want this job?
	Let's talk about it.
	I'll give you this job well if I give you this job are you gonna so that's kind of like the next part So 90% of people are running for a job.
	They're not running to be president.
	Gotcha.
	They're running for it.
	What job would Mike Pence be running for at this point, though?
	He's already been vice president.
	He's already been governor.
	It's easy to take shots at Mike Pence, but same people that like Trump forget that he played a very important role at that time because he brought in the side of where he was the Indiana, I want to say, you know, conservative, safe.
	And some people that were like, man, I'm a little worried about him.
	He brought more safety in.
	Like, you know, when I started an insurance company, I had a reputation of being very competitive, you know, loud, you know, doing my thing.
	And I upset a lot of different people.
	I brought certain people in that got those that were worried about coming over to us to say, okay, that guy's there.
	They're going to be fine.
	That guy's there.
	I feel safer.
	So it's a strategic hire that you have.
	So you can take shots at him all you want.
	The guy was a hero for a lot of Trump fans back in 2015, 2016.
	I think he played his part.
	It's like a player you got that you forget.
	Ray Allen hit the shot.
	He got a championship guy.
	Yes.
	Just give him the credit.
	I hate Ray Allen as much as you want today.
	I get it.
	But the guy still hit the shot, got you chips.
	You could make the case that he got Trump elected because he won over the Christian eventuality.
	He was very important.
	I think he was very important.
	What I don't like now is that sometimes this is what happens is, okay, who's more important, Pence or Trump, to get into the White House?
	Who's more important?
	Trump, what do you mean?
	Who's the bigger driver to get into the White House?
	Not even a conversation.
	Give me the percentage of them when they won in 2016.
	What percentage of the winners?
	2016?
	What percentage of the credit of Trump winning was Trump?
	What percentage of the credit of Trump going to the White House was Pence?
	25%.
	No way, guys.
	What are you talking about?
	90-10.
	It's 99 to 1.
	Really?
	Yeah, because you didn't win the, what do you call it, the primary by, you know, you won it because it's like, this is the guy, right?
	And then you announce who it is.
	So it's 99 him.
	It's one him.
	Here's the problem.
	You know, if you wrote on someone's coattail and you go up and you flip, it's a little bit, that's what his DNA is today.
	That's his reputation today.
	You know, and by the way, Democrats love him.
	CNN loves him.
	MSNBC loves him.
	He's a great tool.
	By the way, expect him to be on TV 60 minutes, CBS, ABC, all of this stuff for 16 straight months every day.
	And then he's going to get a $10 million book deal, $5 million book deal.
	And then he's going to be the guy that's going to have a consultant, you know, half a million dollar a year job with CNN, MSNBC, to do talking.
	That's what he's going to be doing.
	So, but it is what it is.
	He played, it's like, it's like Scotty Pippin.
	I was watching a video today about how Scotty Pippen was the guy.
	And then after the last dance, there was a big following up between the two of them.
	Because Scotty then came out and he wrote a book and he said, what?
	He says, what do you want to be remembered as?
	I want to be remembered as the greatest of all time.
	Dude, come on, bro.
	That's what he wants to say.
	Scotty said, I want to be remembered.
	Have you seen this interview?
	Whatever it is, it's just delusional.
	When Robin suddenly thinks he's Batman, you're going to be a better Robin being the best Robin you can be versus you all of a sudden thinking, you know.
	Anyways, this just took me to a completely different.
	It's delusional.
	You actually think you said that CNN, you know, these MSNBCs, they love Pence now.
	You actually think they love him?
	I think they look at him as a useful idiot.
	But that's, you still love a useful idiot.
	That's worse.
	What's wrong with him?
	They're like, oh, Trump's boot-licking VP is now anti-Trump.
	It's Saturday night, 11 o'clock.
	Three people aren't texting you back.
	One of the girls does.
	You love her.
	You love her.
	I'm just trying to give you an analogy that you relate to.
	Adam just went to this last Saturday.
	You know what, Mary?
	A quick shout out to you.
	You were amazing.
	You are.
	Anyways.
	All right.
	So, okay, next story.
	Let's go into a little bit of Chicago, okay, with what happened with Chicago.
	Rob, if you want to find that clip there, and then also, I'm going to, I'll find the Tate tweet because I love what Tate said and then how he responded back to it.
	So Chicago mayor-elect condemns teen takeover chaos, but says it's not constructive to demonize the youth.
	Hundreds of young people descended on downtown Chicago for two nights of chaos with two teenage boys being shot during the mayhem.
	Chicago mayor-elect Brandon Johnson condemned the behavior but warned against demonizing youth who have been starved of opportunities in their communities.
	Nine adults and six juveniles were arrested in connection with the takeover, with most of the arrests being for reckless conduct.
	Johnson called for the creation of safe spaces for youth to gather under adult guidance and supervision.
	Johnson's past support for reallocating funds from the police department to other social services come under attack during the mayoral race, but he has since distanced himself from that position, saying he will not reduce the police budget while arguing that hiring more officers will not solve the city's crime problems.
	Okay.
	Do you have the clip to show what happened in Chicago, Rob, if you got it?
	If you don't, what are your thoughts on what's going on in Chicago right now?
	I mean, it doesn't look good.
	I would hope it's a wake-up call to a lot of people.
	But how many more of these things need to happen for them to have a wake-up call?
	The people who are paying the price for this are the same ones that voted for this guy and elected him.
	I mean, it's possible that's what they deserve, or maybe that's what they want.
	And those that don't want that either moved or vote differently.
	But if you stay there, you have to be okay.
	I mean, no one wanting to raise a happy family wants to stay.
	I mean, they can't remain there if that's their priority.
	So clearly they have other priorities, you know?
	Have you seen any of these clips on what?
	This is crazy.
	I've seen a few, but yeah, it's pretty wild.
	There is literally, it's lawlessness in Chicago, bro.
	When cops don't want to show, yo, you know, Pat, cops won't go to certain neighborhoods because of the gang situation.
	Like, they're just like, listen, you're on your own.
	Just take shelter and just get the hell out of there, basically.
	She's nailing.
	Like, how do you keep voting?
	Because, Monday, they just got rid of Lightfoot, the new guy.
	He's, this is, yeah, he's worse, but they keep voting him in.
	And I feel, I mean, obviously, some people can't leave, but if you, if you vote these people in and this is what you get, say, it's on you.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	So explain to me the context here because I've seen some ridiculous clips here.
	This is quite, this was an organized teen takeover.
	Was this just a bunch of teenagers saying, you know what?
	We're going to organize and just go raise hell, burn shit down.
	Nobody was shot.
	No innocent person was shot or nothing.
	It was just like, hey, let's just go down there and cause and what fueled this?
	What are their demands?
	Are they angry about something?
	When something happened, no, there was no killing.
	There was no nothing.
	It was just, you know what?
	F the city and let's let's just raise holy.
	Rob, can you pull up that video of the mob beating up the girl and trying to enter her house?
	Yeah, and I'm talking about, look at, look how many people are beating this girl.
	Not this one.
	No, not this one.
	You did it right before.
	Yeah, that's her.
	Oh, that's it right there.
	Look at her.
	Here's this lady.
	She's trying to feel like she's just trying to get into her house.
	Look at that.
	Be in the living room.
	30 people just start beating the shit out of her.
	That's attempted murder.
	Stomping her in the head.
	That's attempted murder.
	For what reason?
	For nothing.
	Nothing.
	Could you imagine if that were 30 white people beating up a blackout?
	Oh, forget it.
	Could you imagine what would be happening if that was 30 white guys beating up a transition?
	You see her in the middle?
	She's like, I didn't do anything.
	Boom.
	And she's just getting stomped out.
	This to me is disgusting.
	If you don't call out shit like this, whether you're black or white, you're Asian or Latino, you're part of the problem.
	I wish that's a moment.
	Well, by Chicago, so there's no guns.
	I wish she had a gun because I would have shot everybody's ass that's trying to stomp me on my fucking head.
	That's ridiculous, bro.
	Yeah, we're, dude, and guess what?
	She should be moving out of the city.
	Her next thing, after trying to arrest people and bring them to court, move the hell out of Chicago.
	If she's even functional right now, you know that she's going to be interviewed across the board.
	You know, Fox is going to bring her on.
	And if I'm CNN, I'm MSNBC, I bring her on also.
	Unbelievable, bro.
	Unbelievable.
	You bring her on also.
	Yeah.
	You think they're going to bring her on?
	Well, Tate said.
	They should.
	There's a difference between there's a lot of things they should do.
	They would never talk about the story.
	That's bullshit to me.
	This is against their narrative.
	But that is bullshit to me.
	Tate said, imagine living in Chicago on purpose by choice.
	Seriously.
	Imagine being a full-grown adult and waking up in Chicago, looking at the entire globe and then looking around you at the shithole you reside in and saying, yes, I want to live here.
	Then somebody responds back and he says this.
	After tweeting this, thousands of people from Chicago replied something along the lines of, shut up, you wouldn't last a day here without getting shot or robbed as some sort of defense.
	Kind of proves my point completely, doesn't it?
	So we agree Chicago is a crime-ridden dump.
	I mean, listen, that's exactly the point.
	One of the things that happens is I had a sales leader I talked to one time, and we're having a back and forth.
	And I said, you realize who likes you?
	She says, what do you mean?
	I said, think about which one of your salespeople like you.
	She says, who?
	I said, you're losing your best salespeople and you're keeping the worst ones.
	You prefer people listening to you and wanting to just like you and kiss your ass 24-7 over killers that want to compete, dominate, and get to work.
	You want people to just conform to you and fear you rather than people that want to go compete.
	You can always tell a person's identity by who they keep and who they lose.
	We got a lot of vice presidents in our insurance company.
	I watch some of our guys and they keep killers.
	They're a killer.
	I watch some of our guys.
	They lose their killers and they keep their complainers.
	They're a complainer.
	It's just what it is.
	So a city who does things like this, guess what you're going to lose?
	The person that just wants to go to work and create a business and send their kids to a good school and just do their part.
	They're not allowed.
	They just kind of want to do their part.
	Those are very much of positive citizens that you want to keep.
	You lose those people.
	You don't have a city.
	They're going to go to a different place.
	So, you know, somebody said the other day, there's an article from Insider Bashing Florida, and it says something like, remote work is killing Florida as a retirement paradise.
	Look at the title.
	Remote work is killing Florida as a retirement paradise.
	Did you understand the title?
	Are you getting what they're trying to say?
	Okay, so let me read it to you for some of us people that are not Columbia grad, you know, brilliant minds that let me go to this page nine.
	So check this out.
	Florida's rising home prices are threatening the state's reputation as a retirement haven.
	Median home values in Florida are up 33% compared to last year, compared to an 18% nationwide increase.
	The eight of 10 most overvalued home markets in the U.S. are in Florida.
	The state has long promoted itself as an affordable retirement paradise, but increasing competition from private investors combined with the rise of remote work has contributed to the work to afford housing and housing prices threatened to end the middle-class stream of spending final days in Florida.
	Unless Florida builds more housing and raises wages, the trend of rising home prices may delay young people's retirement plans and threaten the state's economy at home.
	It's so funny.
	Like, who's going to fall for this shit?
	The same person that, can you, let's find out who the writer is.
	Go find who wrote this article.
	And let me guess, Gabby, you went to Columbia.
	Click on her profile.
	That's so funny.
	No, just click on her name.
	It's going to take you there and tell us who she is.
	Writer, Brooklyn, she worked at The Verge, The Drift, The Bad of the Nations, other problems.
	She's a co-founder, editor and so on and so on.
	What school did you go to, Gabby?
	Can we go find out Gabby Delvai?
	There's not a lot of them out there.
	What school did she go to?
	Love the Del Valley.
	Zoom in.
	This is a different Del Vaien.
	Let me tell you.
	Gabby is immigration report at Vice News.
	Makes sense.
	Prior to Vice, she was a reporter at Vox and writer at Online Del Cambodia.
	No college.
	And Daily Beast.
	All of those things tells you who she is.
	All of those things tell you who she is.
	What college report I heard is give us your college.
	Come on.
	Give us your college.
	She's had one too many jobs.
	New York University.
	NYU.
	Okay, same thing.
	Makes sense.
	Didn't you just talk about NYU earlier?
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So there you go.
	You want to say something like this?
	Good for you.
	This whole remote works, you know, bashing Florida as a place to be.
	Listen, guys, the workers, the independent thinkers, the people that want to be left alone, the badasses you want in your community are moving to places like Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Idaho.
	I can give you five other states, and they're leaving places like Chicago, Illinois, New York, California.
	I can give you five other states they're leaving.
	It's just what's happening.
	Anyways, what are your thoughts on this story here?
	Yeah, no, I agree with everything you said.
	I don't understand who would stay there unless it's someone who has to and has no way out, can afford to be a family.
	Can you imagine?
	A lot of people are probably in that state.
	But it could go back to what you said about like American values changing.
	If your values are I want to raise a family and put food on the table and make sure my kids grow up to be normal citizens of the world, you would not remain in Chicago.
	So either people's values are changing and we're not understanding what people are starting to align with or people simply can't get out.
	But there's no one would willingly want to stay there and have a normal, responsible, happy family life.
	You know, right now we're looking at buying 10 to 20 acres to build our campus.
	And we're talking to Fort Lauderdale.
	We're looking at Pompano.
	We're even considering Miami.
	That's what we're looking at right now.
	We're going to build our campus.
	We're going to do movies.
	We're going to do docs.
	We're going to do shows.
	We're going to have our own type of Johnny Carsons that are going to come here.
	We're going to bring the coolest cats that are willing to have conversations from both sides that are likable.
	They're smart.
	They're intellectual.
	And they also don't think they know it all.
	And they're still trying to learn.
	And we're going to compete.
	And I cannot tell you how many people around the country message me and say, Pat, are you recruiting?
	We like you guys and what you're doing, how you guys are.
	We want to be part of it.
	People are sick of states that are hurting individuals that just want to be left alone.
	California just came out with this one policy here.
	It goes full communism, utilities to base what they charge on how much you make.
	So utilities, if you want to pay electricity in California now, they're going to use a progressive system.
	The more money you make, your bill is going to be more.
	Makes you want to move back to California, baby.
	Yeah, you should come with me.
	California, so three utility companies in California have filed a joint proposal to charge customers a flat rate based on their income with reduced usage charges based on consumption.
	This proposal part of a compliance with 2021 California state government legislation requiring such plans for utilities.
	The fixed income rate for households would be as low as 15 bucks a month for low-income households and up to 85 bucks more per month for households earning more than $180,000 a year.
	Critics argue that this initiative is an attempt to implement Marxism and communism where capitalism is inescapable and the only way to prosperity.
	They suggest that such policies would incentivize low-income households and penalize those earning more than $180K per year, which would lead to a decline in productivity and the standard of living.
	That's common sense.
	Yes, the way he described it.
	Nothing about what he said was out of the ordinary.
	Why would somebody stay in California today?
	Why would somebody stay in California?
	The weather and the traffic, Pat.
	They just love it.
	I'm in L.A. this week.
	Where are you going this week?
	I'm in L.A. Friday and Saturday.
	We're going to be in L.A. I'm speaking.
	I think I'm in Corona on Saturday.
	When you go back, how do you, like, be honest, what do you, I mean, you miss it because you're from, I love it.
	Do you know what I love?
	Then you get to leave?
	I can close my eyes and drive the freeways.
	I know every street.
	I probably drove a few hundred thousand miles in California selling policies and building my business.
	I love it there.
	There's the people, the relationships.
	I'm a Glendale High School kid.
	You go by the high school and you're looking at the nitros and very proud of being out of a thousand students class, 880 out of my thousand graduating class, very proud, proud of the GPA and all that stuff that we had.
	No, there's a certain element to it, going through all the roads, the streets.
	We did that once together, right?
	I'm driving and I'm saying, hey, here's why I'm with this.
	We've done it a few times.
	And it's great.
	Fastest I've ever driven in my life.
	165.
	By the way, to drive 165 on 405 freight, which allegedly he's claiming.
	I was just going to say, don't say that.
	People have, somebody heard that you were doing.
	Keep in mind, it was during COVID, so there was no shit.
	It's a great state, but I'm telling you, more and more people stop me and say, I left my state and moved to Florida after watching the video of how great Florida is.
	I left my state, and even though you talked about Florida, I chose to move to Tennessee.
	I moved to Texas.
	I moved to Idaho.
	It's happening.
	And it's going to become more and more and more.
	So the part about the six weeks that we talked about with DeSantis, let's flip it.
	Does this cause some people to want to leave Florida?
	Well, that gets some people to say, I'm sorry, man, I can't live here.
	Okay.
	Because these policies are also moving me away from the state.
	You know, I can't do something like this because I do believe good and bad policies are going to force certain people out and attract certain people in.
	Maybe that is strategic, what he's doing.
	What do you think?
	I mean, if nothing else, he's going to make it a very red state.
	I mean, I was told in 2016, but even through 2020, that this was still a swing state.
	Once this passes those who remain, I mean, that's it.
	It's a red state.
	So I think unfortunately, we're changing the map quite a bit.
	And now we're learning where you want to live if you're a Republican and where you want to live if you're a Democrat.
	And there's not a lot of places to go if you just want to be around people who might disagree with you, but, you know, that you might enjoy having dinner with.
	So that's the unfortunate part, that we're really making states choose what they want to be and making people decide what they're doing.
	Well, nobody's more purple here than you, though.
	That's fair.
	That's why I go between New York and here.
	I cannot settle in one spot.
	So, do you go to New York?
	Oh, my God, all these red people.
	And you go to Florida, and you go to New York, you're like, oh, my God, all these blue people.
	I missed the red.
	And you go to the red.
	Like, oh, these guys are so annoying.
	You go back.
	Is that kind of how you are?
	Let's go by.
	I'm only happy on the plane in the middle.
	That's so funny.
	That's the only time that I'm okay.
	I like that.
	That's the first person who said they're happy to be on an air flying on these planes out there these days.
	Oh, man, that's crazy.
	Okay, next story.
	Let's see what we got next to go through.
	Do we want to talk a little bit about weed?
	Let's talk a little bit about weed.
	So there's a community.
	Did you guys talk about the leaked Pentagon stuff, Pat?
	Did you guys say that?
	Let's be blunt, please.
	Okay.
	Legal weed is turning New York workers into zombies.
	Great.
	So this is a New York Post story.
	Let's see what they have to say.
	So apparently, let me see this thing.
	Okay.
	The decriminalization of marijuana has led to widespread use amongst service employees in New York City, resulting in lethargy, disengagement, and forgetfulness.
	Hey, can you remember to put that on my schedule?
	I got you.
	I got you.
	Never in the calendar.
	Minimum wage should be lowered since many workers have become hopelessly stun at or dumb.
	Who said that, by the way?
	Let me know something on the minimum.
	Okay, now that's just a quote.
	So there are several examples of service employees who were stoned up the wazoo and unable to perform their jobs, including a cashier who forgot to give change, a service desk worker.
	That's the last one.
	Who lost a car and a restaurant server who lost a credit card?
	The acrid odor of marijuana smoke is everywhere, even in Broadway theaters and subway cars.
	Progressive politicians are responsible for throwing the city into trash by decriminalizing marijuana and allowing the widespread use of the drug amongst service employees.
	Do you see that in New York when you go there or not really?
	I smell it.
	You smell it?
	Yeah.
	So are you happier in New York?
	I have actually never smoked weed in my life.
	I've never tried it.
	Swear to God, I don't know anything about this except my high school friends who would act very similarly to what they're describing here.
	You can't say that.
	You have to admit to everybody here on here on live podcast.
	Promise.
	You didn't inhale.
	If you live in New York, you can lie detect.
	Is that a thing?
	You can lie detecting me right now.
	I promise.
	Never in my life.
	No, no.
	What I'm saying is, my point is more if you, you know, if you're in New York, if you're around friends that are smoking weed, you're getting high.
	I knew what they were doing.
	I wasn't around them.
	Oh, okay.
	When I was 16, I was sitting at home with a cast on my leg, just trying to figure out how to walk away.
	It's funny when I'm around the kids and the kids are like, Dad, what smell is that?
	So that's skunk.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is.
	High quality.
	That's what that is.
	Adam, what are your thoughts about this?
	You may be looking at the story and you may say you would support something like this if DeSantis did this in Florida.
	Is that kind of what you're thinking?
	Yeah, well, let me tell you, this story is such bullshit.
	Okay.
	This is such bullshit.
	Why?
	Because let me tell you something about these guys, these cash registers, these guys, these Uber drivers.
	You think they're waiting for fucking weed regulation to start smoking weed?
	These guys have been hitting the bong for decades.
	Okay, they're not waiting for weed regulation to set in and be like, finally, I can smoke my weed.
	It's just true.
	Nobody's smoking it.
	No, nobody can.
	Regardless.
	Listen, nobody can say they can't smoke that weed.
	No one's saying that, that they can't do it behind closed doors, right?
	This is legally.
	Oh, they're going to do it.
	No, no.
	Regardless.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	If I'm building a company and you got guys that are like, hey, I'm going to take a smoke break.
	They're outside.
	And all of a sudden, they come back in.
	Hey, so Johnny, how you doing?
	Good, bad.
	How you doing?
	Like, I'm good.
	So you're going to finish that video?
	Yeah, yeah, boss.
	I got it.
	Okay.
	Dude, like five o'clock, he forgot he leaves.
	And so productivity doesn't go up.
	There is no.
	I'm not saying that there's benefits from doing that.
	But the difference is these guys are now smoking legally.
	There's a difference between, they've been smoking for a while.
	You're right.
	But now you're getting to an Uber and you're like, this guy just smoked a joint before me getting in here.
	Here we go.
	We'll open the windows.
	No, it's cold.
	It's New York.
	I fully agree with you.
	Fully agree with you, but what I'm saying is, they're going to do it regardless, whether it's legal, whether it's illegal, whether they can buy it on the street, where they can buy it from their drug dealer.
	They're going to get their, if they want to get high, they're going to get a high.
	They're not waiting for government regulation to set it and be like, finally, I can take my smoking weed.
	Can I tell everybody what you're doing?
	I know you're, you know, how sometimes you're talking to me, but the audience doesn't know the conversation we just had right before the podcast.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay.
	So here's what Adam is requesting.
	And I haven't yet approved it.
	Rob, you know about this.
	This was a lengthy meeting.
	You're going to reveal our private conversation.
	Are you okay with it if I tell them that?
	You know what?
	I'm going to teach you.
	Adam wants us to do a podcast smoking weed.
	We're not doing it.
	He wants to do a live podcast smoking weed.
	I told you me, you would wrote a choice between gummies, cookies, and the actual vape smoking of the weed.
	And we're not doing it.
	Now, if Adam wants to do that, that's a different story.
	The audience would like to see that.
	I think Oliver Stone wanted to do that.
	Oliver Stone.
	We even brought him a what do you call it? The humidor we bought for him.
	I'm curious.
	So, what the chat?
	If you had to guess the percentage of what the chat would say yes to Pat and everybody smoking weed, you don't want me smoking.
	What do you think it would be?
	I think it would be 80% or higher.
	I want to see Pat happen.
	I think 80%.
	I'm going to go ahead and say this, Elizabeth.
	The audience is going to say 85%.
	Run a poll.
	Run a post.
	Run a poll.
	I'm telling you, it won't be 80 points.
	80%.
	Come on, guys and girls.
	Let me say one quick thing.
	I have a feeling it's going to be 65%.
	They want to smoke.
	But run a poll.
	Run a poll.
	Would you like to see PBD?
	PBD smoke weeds.
	I'm telling you, it's going to be 65%.
	And Rogan.
	If it's no, Just us.
	Let's just see if what they're going to say.
	But go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Well, as much as it seems like I'm defending weed, all I'm saying is these guys are these guys are going to be smoking it regardless.
	I will say that you said regardless three times.
	You know what I thought about what?
	Regard me.
	You know what movie is?
	Regard me.
	Have you seen Couples Retreat?
	Seven years.
	Do it.
	You're the dunk.
	Regard me.
	You don't know that guy.
	The reason why I know it's because I just watch it with the kids.
	By the way, Couples Retreat.
	What a movie that is.
	Oh, if it's far from East Island, you know, what do they do over there?
	And with Yort Meg.
	The massage guy.
	Yeah.
	I will say that weed, they're making it so strong these days.
	And I totally can empathize with what they're saying here: lethargy, disengagement, forgetfulness.
	Lethargy.
	Wait, you make fun of me.
	Yeah, it's lethargic.
	Lethargy.
	I'm lethargic.
	Lethargy, not lethargy.
	Adam has lethargy today.
	And you make fun of this ESL-speaking guy, and you got like a 4.0 GP and I. Lethargy.
	Is that how you say it?
	Like someone that's lethargic?
	Okay, I'm thinking of you could never talk about Pat again.
	He said that's game over.
	Over.
	I don't want to hear ever.
	Lethargy.
	It's not lethargy.
	No, but go ahead.
	God, or the lethargy.
	I know you're dick.
	Adam's newest product is made out of leather.
	So if you're a leper, yeah, if you're a leper with lethargy.
	Well, I forgot my story.
	I forgot my dick.
	I start over here.
	Oh, here's the story.
	So I remember being in college, smoking weed for like first time and super stoned.
	And now it's even stronger than weed these days.
	And I remember being like, all right, I got to go to the store and I got to buy some stuff.
	So I remember I got in the car, opened the car door, sat in the seat, put my key in the ignition, and I was sitting in shotgun.
	That's when you know.
	I was just like, oh, shit.
	I had to get out of the car, walk around, go into the driver's seat.
	The whole time I'm thinking, if anyone just saw me, could I just want to do this fast?
	Idiot.
	Pat, I'm in the United States Air Force six years, only smoked a couple times before because I have really strict parents.
	I get out first day, I do the volcano vaporizer for the people out there that smoke.
	You know what that is, Pat?
	It's this big silver thing.
	Yeah, it fills up, it heats the weed.
	Like the vapes now, it fills up a garbage bag.
	I go, I hit the whole thing and I'm like, let me drive to Long Beach.
	I'm going to go to the beach.
	I'm going to go have fun.
	That's the thing right here, Vince.
	Look at that bag, it fills up.
	So, Pat, I hit it.
	I'm on the 405.
	I'm gone.
	I'm only 20 miles an hour.
	A cop pulls up in front of me, which is always, you know, I'm like, he's supposed to be back there.
	The cop turns on his lights, and he starts doing something called the traffic break, which you know what that is, right, Pat?
	When the cop turns on his lights and they start swerving to slow down traffic, I am so high, I just start following the cop.
	I'm like, let me just start swerving.
	I'm like, are we in a commercial?
	Did you get arrested or no?
	He pulled over because there's a bumper.
	He joined you.
	No, no, he's in front.
	I'm following him do this move.
	He pulls over because there's a bumper on the freeway.
	He gets out.
	I get out and I follow him and I go, officer, he's like, I scared the shit.
	He'd be like, get the back in your car.
	He's like, what's your problem?
	I go, I'm sorry.
	And I got in the car.
	I was high as shit.
	Never smoked after that.
	Here you go.
	Finished.
	No more weed.
	To bring this to you, so you don't think we're all just potatoes.
	Letter jacket.
	Yeah, lethargic jacket.
	I'd like to know what the kind of tax revenue that the state of New York or even the state of California has actually received from legalizing this because there is money in this, right?
	Oh, they're killing it.
	For taxing of.
	I mean, listen, to be honest, the leather industry, lethargy industry, and then the middle of the country.
	How much California?
	A billion.
	Tax revenue.
	A billion, 300 million.
	There you go.
	They're killing it, bro.
	There's a lot of money in weed.
	$1.3 billion.
	What about New York?
	Oh, my God.
	Dude, Peggy.
	Massachusetts.
	You realize how many lethargies come from all that money?
	It's permanent.
	That's the permanent.
	It's the main mistake.
	Lethargies.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, Adam, you got that out of your system?
	What's the poll?
	Rob, what was the poll?
	All right.
	So 10 priciest cities in the U.S. where a $300,000 salary feels like $100,000 a year.
	Okay.
	Let's look at this.
	10 priciest.
	And let's see how many of the cities of Florida are on this list.
	So if you want to go to it, priciest 10 cities, number one is New York City.
	$312,000 a year is the equivalent of $100,000.
	Holy shit.
	So Hawaii is also $312.
	Do you have this or no?
	If you can show the stats, Hawaii is $312,000 San Francisco is $311, then it's Oakland.
	Why would you, that's insane.
	Oakland, LA $245.
	Rob, what are you doing to us here?
	Okay, there we go.
	Oakland is right here.
	Rob, you smoke weed and get lethargy?
	Oakland 246, LA 245, Long Beach, D.C., San Diego, Boston, Seattle.
	Interesting.
	Okay, go to the other side, which is what?
	10 cheapest cities the 10 cheapest cities is i okay there you go Number one, Memphis, Tennessee.
	Wow.
	El Paso 2, Oklahoma City, Corpus Christi, Lubbock, Texas.
	Shout out to Daniel.
	Houston, Texas.
	Houston, 125.
	That's pretty wild to be thinking.
	Look how many Texas is in there.
	Texas, One, two, three.
	If you're a leader's Bolton guy, seven out of 10 is Texas.
	They're dominating.
	Okay.
	That's pretty wild.
	So in other words, if you want to feel rich, move to Texas.
	Right?
	Yeah, you're right.
	If you want to do not go to California, Texas is dominant.
	By the way, there's no Florida on ID.
	I mean, not with Miami.
	I thought Miami would have been on the, what do you call it?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	But it's not.
	Yeah, because people don't make $100,000 in Miami.
	So if we're going to go based on this, we're opening up a studio in Memphis, Tennessee.
	We're going to go to Memphis and Vitamin.
	I'm Rider Dies, so let's go.
	You're getting content from that place.
	By the way, I'm surprised Houston's on this list.
	Me too.
	Because Houston's got $20, $30 million homes.
	You got oils now.
	The third largest city in America just passed up Chicago.
	Oh, really?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, Houston?
	Houston's blowing up.
	Houston passed up Chicago.
	Bigger than Dallas?
	Are you joking?
	Are you joking?
	Shit, man.
	Are you coming at me?
	Did you, what did you have for the business?
	Smoke and he's lethargic.
	He's lethargic.
	Houston is bigger than Dallas.
	Please tell me you're joking.
	I mean, when you think of Texas, you think of Dallas.
	Dallas, Texas.
	Everybody thinks of the house.
	Houston, you type in top 10 largest cities in America population.
	All right.
	This is pretty interesting.
	Population.
	Oh, you mean what?
	You're thinking.
	He's lethargy.
	He's there again.
	This is what year?
	Houston just passed up Chicago.
	Largest.
	Wow.
	Yeah, Houston's what?
	Go Dallas population.
	Go Dallas population.
	Houston's 2,300,000.
	Dallas.
	Low-key.
	It's just low.
	I don't think anybody would think that Houston is that big.
	I'm not going to.
	When you think of major cities, you do not think of Houston.
	Wow, Houston has double.
	Bam.
	I didn't know that.
	What?
	Yep.
	2.288.
	You tell me when you think of major U.S. cities, Houston is on your list.
	I wouldn't have thought that.
	Maybe if you're a Hakeem Elijah fan, but no.
	Sorry.
	Wait, you wouldn't want to live in Houston?
	That's not what I said.
	It's a little while.
	No, well, I don't want to live in Houston.
	I'm good in Miami.
	I'm good.
	Pat, what do you think the poll was for you smoking weed?
	I totally forgot.
	70?
	Totally forgot about it.
	You're lethargic.
	60.
	Oh, it dropped?
	I told you.
	60.
	People want to see it.
	What did I say?
	You said 60.
	I said 65.
	You know your audience.
	But 61.
	Wait till the end of the podcast to see how it looks out.
	But that means yes.
	Yeah, I can't believe it.
	See you.
	61, yes.
	35, no.
	I still have 61, 39, no.
	I know you said that you're going to do whatever the audience decides.
	Yeah, so whatever.
	You said you want to smoke.
	You can smoke it.
	What do you mean, you people?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean, you people?
	For 400 years.
	Get cheese.
	Get cheese, Pat.
	Say that's hilarious.
	Man.
	Where are you at with these cities, by the way?
	When you see stuff like this.
	The cities.
	No, if I'm right now, if I am somebody that is not in the best of place financially and I'm thinking about having a family and raising a family, if I'm doing okay financially, I'm moving to Florida.
	Okay.
	I'm moving to Tennessee.
	You know, if I'm not doing well financially and I can't afford private school and I'm thinking next 10, 20 years where I'd like to go, pick a city in Texas.
	It's a great place to go to.
	Dallas is a great place.
	Plano, if you can live in Plano, phenomenal city.
	Dallas got a lot of great places to be living in.
	Houston's got a lot of great places to be living in.
	We got a couple of our guys that moved to Houston.
	Austin is very different.
	Austin is not Texas.
	A lot of people think Austin is Texas until they go to Austin and then they realize Austin is more San Francisco.
	Really?
	Austin?
	Like a lot of samples?
	Austin is not Texas.
	Austin is weird.
	Some may say that they want to campaign.
	Unpack that.
	Because I've been to all these cities to do comedy shows, but what's the difference between Austin compared to like a Dallas or like a Houston?
	Austin?
	It's more a hipster.
	Oh, God, really?
	You don't know how high.
	I've never been to Austin.
	I've been to every place.
	So here's what we're going to do.
	We'll go to Joe's new club.
	Okay.
	Go visit him.
	I'm going to give him a gift.
	Okay.
	We'll go to his new club.
	Okay.
	And we'll also go around Austin.
	Please.
	See what it's like.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Austin is.
	It's crazy because I live in a lot of different.
	I swear to God, I've never been to Austin.
	I've been everywhere.
	Let me tell you.
	What do you like?
	Is it towards a positive or towards a negative?
	Because you say San Francisco, I don't want to even be there.
	What do I like about Austin?
	Yeah.
	I mean, would I live there?
	If what you're asking?
	Well, you're saying, how do you compare it to San Francisco?
	It is Texas's version of San Francisco.
	That's what it is.
	That's the best way to put it.
	Liberal, like, you know, you know, it's, by the way, Austin is also the Silicon Valley of Texas as well.
	So it's Silicon.
	Silicon.
	Not Silicon, not Silicon Valley.
	Lethargy.
	Lethargy.
	That's one of my words that they correct me on.
	Silicon Valley.
	So bad, if it's so liberal and sold like that, why would somebody like Joe Rogan go there?
	Which is, I think that's why I'm not California.
	Well, obviously nothing.
	I mean, but he did.
	Because it's California without the policies.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's California without the policy.
	Got you.
	Okay, I want to go.
	By the way, he moved to the right place for him.
	Yeah.
	Okay, perfect.
	And his comedy club, the mothership.
	I said, Joe, how's the comedy club?
	Eight months.
	Sold out.
	I mean, you can't get tickets.
	It's crazy because he'll add a show and then it'll be sold out.
	Second without me.
	Yes.
	Second.
	Yeah, you're talking about, you know, what he's done to comedy.
	This is like, you know, like, where's the place basketball players wanted to go play in New York?
	Rucker Park, Rucker Park, right?
	Like, this is the Rucker Park of comedy.
	Wow.
	It's crazy.
	Last night they posted a photo of a drop-in comedian.
	Guess who the drop-in comedian was?
	Bill Burr.
	Bill Burr just drops in and does a spot.
	Oh, my God.
	By the way, that's kind of like in New York saying, guys, there's going to be a player showing up tomorrow.
	Kevin Durant shows up.
	It's kind of like, hey, come and play with Kevin Durant.
	That's what happens at the comedy cellar in New York.
	You know that.
	Pat, I want to go to Austin, please.
	Come in.
	By the way, you got to play a game when you're in Austin.
	It's called Homeless or Hipster.
	Oh, God.
	You just got to guess.
	Guess who's who?
	Is that guy homeless or hipster?
	I was three for 10.
	I just couldn't figure it out.
	I'm like, that guy is definitely homeless.
	He's like, I own a tech company.
	Well, wait, when you played this game, were you smoking and were Lotharch?
	Where are those at?
	No.
	Okay, let's try to hit two more stories.
	By the way, what would be good is these stories, why people are fleeing blue cities for red states, this is kind of basically proving your point.
	You want to go to that?
	Well, it's just essentially it's doubling down.
	By the way, it's New York Times, which, you know, this is once where New York Times is and the Daily Mail.
	All right, let's go to New York Times and let's see what they got to say.
	Here we go.
	Why people are fleeing blue cities for red states.
	Okay.
	Fastest growing states in the U.S. between 2010 and 2020 were mostly red states, like Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina.
	The trend accelerated during the pandemic.
	And most of the population gaining states are governed by Republicans.
	These states are more pro-business and have lower taxes and fewer restrictions on home construction, resulting in lower housing prices and more job opportunities.
	The growth in these states is mostly in their metro areas, which are often blue cities, in red states.
	Republican policies provide the general business climate, but Democrats at the local level influence the school, social services, and civic atmosphere that attracts highly educated workers.
	A red-blue mashup seems to work with the conservative states authorities at odds with the more liberal city authorities over things like minimum wage laws and LGBTQ rights.
	Okay.
	So they're kind of trying to suggest and say, hey, guys, like we understand you guys are kicking our asses.
	But what would be better is if you guys are willing to work with us a little bit.
	That's kind of how I read this article.
	But it's known, is anyone surprised who's moving to red states?
	Is this like a story where you're sitting there being flabbergasted saying, oh, wow, shocking.
	No.
	People like lower taxes.
	People like lower regulation.
	People like it when the government stays out of the business of how you want to parent and raise your kids.
	These are all like you went back to, you said something.
	You said, I want to go back to what?
	You said the America, not America first policy.
	You were talking about what America was founded on, the policies that were, you know.
	Yeah, the values that my parents escaped the Soviet Union to, you know, to be a part of, to raise me, and that I wish to God will exist when I have kids one day.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, hurry up because it's like what these guys are up to now.
	These crazy things are happening.
	Okay.
	So are you good with that story?
	Did you have a comment or did you just want to?
	Well, I love the quote by Nassim Nicholas Talib.
	You know, Naseeb Talib?
	He says, I am at the federal level, libertarian, right?
	At the state level, Republican, essentially this.
	Right.
	At the local level, Democrat, caring about your community, I guess.
	And at friends and family level, a socialist.
	So there's minutiae in all this.
	If saying that doesn't convince you of the fatusness of the left and the right labels, nothing will.
	So it kind of just different strokes for different folks.
	But to prove to that point, get out of my way.
	Let me just do my thing as a libertarian from the federal government.
	The state government, obviously, if they're pro-business, people are moving to these states.
	But in your family, you know, maybe you can be a little bit more left-leaning and give stuff away.
	Yeah.
	Very close family.
	You touched me.
	Did you use signaling?
	That was a signal.
	Family.
	Family.
	I think he makes sense.
	This is the first time we've had two Jews and two Assyrians on our podcast.
	Yes.
	I feel like Mishbucha here.
	I feel like family.
	We're having a great time.
	I love it.
	And a proud boy.
	Yeah.
	That was perfect.
	That's amazing.
	I mean, I'm just so thankful you got out of January 6th.
	You want to talk about Walmart shutting down four stores in Chicago?
	Do you want to talk about India population surpassing China?
	Do you want to talk about a new Massachusetts bill would give companies with a four-day work week's tax incentives?
	Or do you want to talk about AI's threat to humanity will be far greater if China masters it first?
	Which one do you want to do?
	Dude, let's do AI.
	Okay, so let's do that one.
	So AI's threat to humanity will be far greater if China masters it first.
	Gordon Chen, who knows something about China.
	He lived there as a lawyer for, I think, 19 or 20 years.
	Okay, so according to China expert Gordon Chang, AI poses a direct threat to humanity, but it'll be more of a threat to humanity if China masters it before we do.
	China's proposed measures to ensure AI development adheres to socialist values and does not disrupt the economic or social order may also hinder its AI development.
	Furthermore, China's politically repressive system that relies on censorship is not conducive to AI development, and AI may not react well to such restrictions.
	Chinese tech firms like Alibaba and Baidu have created bots to rival banned AI products like OpenAI's ChatGPT.
	Finally, China's great AI capabilities and access to vast amounts of data give it a built-in advantage to AI development, creating an arms race and lowering global standards.
	Thoughts?
	Yeah, what was the quote that it's dangerous if China masters this before we do?
	I think that stands for anything.
	That's not just AI.
	Anything that China masters before America does is probably going to kill us.
	I have been convinced for years that technology will take my life.
	So this is further proof.
	I am terrified of all this stuff.
	I don't understand it.
	I don't know why people trust it so blindly.
	And I don't know why we're okay having it when we know that countries like China, Russia, Iran, everyone else has it as well, possibly at a higher level.
	Is that why you use an Extel?
	You're still using old school phones.
	She's still got the flip, folks.
	I love it.
	I wish, yeah.
	But isn't it scary, Pat, when you have people like Elon Musk saying, like, listen, yeah, I'm involved with it, and I'm going to be making a shitload of money off of it, but it's going to be dangerous.
	And they're giving you the warning sign right now that it's going to be taking over.
	There's already, I'm seeing robots working.
	By the way, did you see that one robot pet?
	It was working at some warehouse and it just fell over from being overworked.
	Did you see that?
	Yeah, this is the clip where he's saying, like, well, this is, Elon was on Tucker last night, and they talked about AI regulation.
	And Elon brings up a great point about regulation.
	If you want me to play that, yeah, go for it.
	Rob, your audio is very low.
	So raise that.
	AKA love.
	And we're only putting regulations after something terrible has happened.
	It may be too late to actually put the regulations in place.
	The AI may be in control at that point.
	Do you think that's real?
	It is conceivable that AI could take control and reach a point where you couldn't turn it off and it would be making the decisions for people.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	No, that's definitely where things are headed.
	For sure.
	I mean, things like, like, say, ChatGPT, which is based on JPEG 4 from OpenAI, which is a company that I played a critical role in creating, unfortunately.
	Back when it was a nonprofit.
	Yes.
	I mean, the reason OpenAI exists at all is that Larry Page and I used to be close friends, and I would stay at his house in Palo Alto, and I would talk to him late into the night about AI safety.
	And at least my perception was that Larry was not taking AI safety seriously enough.
	What did he say about it?
	He really seemed to be sort of digital superintelligence, basically digital god, if you will, as soon as possible.
	He wanted that?
	Yes.
	He's made many public statements over the years that the whole goal of Google is what's called AGI, artificial general intelligence or artificial superintelligence.
	No, and I agree with him that there's great potential for good, but there's also potential for bad.
	I said, well, what about, you know, we're going to make sure humanity's okay here.
	And then he called me a speciist.
	Did he use...
	Did he use that term?
	Yes.
	And there were witnesses.
	I wasn't the only one there when he called me a specist.
	And so I was like, okay, that's it.
	Yes, I'm a speciest.
	Okay.
	You got me.
	What are you?
	Yeah, I'm fully a species.
	Busted.
	It's a new word that I just learned today.
	By the way, go ahead.
	So you see this.
	How do you feel about what he's saying here?
	Well, the whole point is that he brings up regulations, but the only time that we put regulations in place is after something tragic happens.
	Are we going to wait with AI until something tragic happens before we start regulating it?
	And if that's the case, it may be too soon.
	At that point, the AI could become self-aware, self-conscious, and then how do you shut it down?
	So I got a question for everybody here.
	Let's just see what angle we take this.
	Okay.
	So his concern is he's trying to pump the brakes on AI.
	Okay?
	Fine.
	So would you rather have, let's just say you pump the brakes on AI on private sector.
	Entrepreneurs, you got to pump the brakes on AI.
	Is the government also going to pump the brakes?
	Never.
	Okay, so they're not going to pump the brakes.
	Would you rather, you have three options.
	Private cannot go to AI.
	It's overly regulated, but the U.S. government can.
	Okay.
	Both private and public can go AI and let a rip.
	Okay, meaning like go for it.
	You can do as much AI as you want.
	Government can do it and private can do it.
	Which one of those two?
	It's just going to be two.
	Which of those two would you rather prefer?
	Are you trusting more private with AI or public with AI?
	I'll go to you first.
	Which one do you prefer?
	It's an interesting one.
	Yeah, it's hard.
	Because what he's saying is he's pumped the brakes.
	The government's not going to pump the brakes.
	So you tell him private's pump the brakes on AI.
	So who's going to pump the brakes?
	Do I want them to monitor everything, but you don't want us to go and impose?
	So who's going to stop?
	Who's not?
	No, that's fair.
	If there is no way to get the government to stop, which there never is, then we must continue and hopefully have more experience than they do.
	I agree with her because I mean, yeah, you can't, this is such a slippery slope because it's like everything that all those movies, all those iRobots and all the warnings of what they're doing, it's coming out into our phase and we're seeing it.
	I'm telling you right now, Pat, it's happening like fast, fast.
	There was a documentary called A Transcendental Man by something.
	If you could look it up, he warned Pat of the arts elect war, not him.
	All the people in the documentary, artificial intelligence against us.
	You're getting a little choked up.
	It's AI.
	I'm getting lethargic.
	You're getting it for Klept.
	I'm getting it for Klept.
	That's the future, and it's scary.
	And the guy was their warning, it's coming, and it's gonna happen.
	It's happening faster and faster.
	And one of his points was: when we look at an ant, Pat, you don't think twice, you just go dead, right?
	That the robot is gonna get millions and millions and millions of times smarter than us, where that robot's gonna turn on us and be like, who are you?
	Yeah, telling me what to do.
	You know what I mean?
	And Elon brings that up in the interview.
	He says, If every humans wanted to go around and kill every chimp, we could kill every chimp because we're strong.
	We may not be stronger than chimps, but we're smarter than chimps.
	We're the smartest species on this earth.
	What happens when there's something smarter than us?
	Then we're smoking like a true species.
	Yeah, you just care about humanity.
	Yeah, so this guy's all about the future in this documentary, but all the other people in the documentary are like, This guy is nuts.
	You're asking for the end of humanity because robots are going to take over.
	So, well, I think, well, every industry has regulation.
	I mean, SEC, FINRA, you know, the EPA, there needs to be some sort of regulation here.
	I mean, even crypto needs to be regulated right now.
	But I mean, I think you bring up a good point about government versus private industry.
	I think crypto needs to be regulated right now.
	I think there is.
	I don't think I'm not a fan of central bank digital currencies, but I think there needs to be some sort of regulation out there.
	I mean, even everything that just happened with the Silicon Valley Bank, they lifted regulations.
	Disaster.
	So, but they're also to your credit, you know, the famous meme.
	You ever seen that meme?
	Let me see.
	Where it's like these two guys are talking, and the guy goes, Did you hear about the new bill?
	Or do you support the new bill?
	And he's like, What new bill?
	He's like, It's the bill that gives the government the no.
	No, like, I'm not in favor of it.
	No, so you can find that.
	Were you going somewhere?
	But there needs to be a balance, there needs to be a public-private partnership and an agreement on what the hell's going on with this AI.
	I don't know about AI enough to even weigh in on this, but I do trust Elon Musk on this.
	Well, I mean, I don't trust anybody that created it.
	Now, it's like that's like making a gun and going, like, hey, I don't trust it.
	Now, you made the gun.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, and the hell with the government or the private, the machine itself is going to be superior than us.
	That's the fear.
	That's the genuine fear.
	Is this machine saying, Who are you to tell me what to do?
	And I have the power and the ammunition to take over you.
	That's the fear.
	So, I don't care who has it.
	Once the machine becomes too smart, it's a wrap.
	And you're talking about the one made possibly here.
	Imagine the one made by the Chinese.
	Oh, forget it.
	Forget it.
	That's a different level.
	Wow.
	So, I don't know.
	Have fun.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know if we can fully put a pause to innovation.
	And I don't know if I fully feel comfortable saying you can innovate, but I can't.
	And hey, I'm smarter and I'm going to be more under control because I'm not driven by power.
	Let me try to see what I can do with this technology.
	And I'll tell you in a couple of years how it's going to help you because I'm the government and I'm here to help you.
	You know, it's just a very honorable thing to say.
	We know when we look at the last time the U.S. population trusted the government the most, this guy named John was president, and his last name is Kennedy.
	Yeah.
	And it was 72% or 70%.
	Today it's in the 20s.
	People don't trust the U.S. government today.
	It's just period.
	You know, the weaponization, the what spying, all this stuff.
	It's like, look, we don't trust what you got going on right now.
	We kind of want to leave that part alone.
	I will say it's when Elon says it, you got to give it credibility.
	He started it.
	You know, it's like when the vaccine guy who started the vaccine, he's sitting there now saying, look, there's a lot of people that invented a product and they turned around and they say, I wasn't too happy about what I produced.
	Not necessarily the vaccine, but certain things that they invent.
	Maybe Elon is somebody we ought to listen to.
	But how we go about it is the issue.
	I'm not comfortable with it being fully deregulated.
	But again, we're going to see what's going to happen.
	Apparently, according to this former, what was it, model that Harvard and University of Pennsylvania were going to get because of technology.
	She said, I was totally.
	We have to stop it.
	We have to figure out a way to stop it.
	And Elizabeth's got a message to folks in DC and this guy named Elon.
	Okay, we should listen to that.
	So we're about to wrap up.
	I do want to admit to something.
	It's going to be very hard to do this.
	Uh-oh.
	As a man who's very proud and there's ego involved and all these other things, lethargic is the proper way to pronounce it, but it is lethargy.
	Just so you know.
	It is.
	So Adam was right.
	We were over here making fun of him the whole time.
	So if you want to go, what just happened?
	If you want to go, relax, pump the brakes.
	I'm giving you this.
	Go on Google.
	Go on Google.
	Type in the word L-E-T-H pronounce and let Google tell us this is a very interesting lethargy.
	Maybe just go to ChatGPT and see what they have to say.
	Hang on, let's hear it.
	Go ahead.
	Show it to us.
	Lethargy.
	Exactly.
	So very disappointed.
	It's lethargic, but apparently it is.
	Lethargy.
	We have a big ESL community that follows us.
	We don't want people going around saying lethargy.
	It's lethargy.
	Don't give up on your dreams.
	You're going to have haters out there.
	You're going to have people going to shit on you, tell you that you're an idiot.
	You're wrong.
	I promise you.
	If you believe in lethargy, you double down on me.
	For every one word you mispronounce or you're accused of it.
	I get 10 coming this way.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, amid all these accusations that I don't know.
	It is what it is, man.
	So, okay.
	What was the name of the book, Pat?
	Elizabeth, if you want to tell us about your book and as well as some of the projects you're working on so the audience can follow you, if you can maybe tell us about this book, Finding My Place.
	Yeah, it's called Finding My Place, Making My Parents' American Dream Come True.
	I think that kind of gives you the gist right there, but it's kind of a story about me, but mostly why I am who I am, which mostly can be summed up in because my parents left the Soviet Union and risked everything, lost a lot so I could be here.
	So thank you for everyone's support.
	And you can follow me at Elizabeth Pipko anywhere you get social media.
	Elizabeth Pip.
	So it's not a common name, is what you're saying?
	It is not.
	So put that Elizabeth Pipko, Twitter, Instagram, put all the links below.
	It's great having you on.
	We had a lot of fun here.
	Today's podcast was a little weird because we laughed a lot and we learned English.
	Love English.
	Who would have guessed?
	Gang, we're doing this again on Thursday.
	I think Thursday will be home team with Tom being on with us here.
	We've got a lot of business topics to talk about this Thursday.
	Have a good one.
	We'll see you guys on Thursday.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.

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