Biden's Surprise Visit To Ukraine w/ Yeonmi Park | PBD Podcast | Ep. 238
PBD Podcast Episode 238. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Yeonmi Park, Adam Sosnick Vincent Oshana and Tom Ellsworth. Try our sponsor Aura for 14 days free - https://aura.com/pbd to see how many times your personal information was found on the dark web today. Yeonmi Park is a North Korean defector and activist whose family fled from North Korea to China in 2007 and settled in South Korea in 2009, before moving to the United States in 2014.
0:00 - Start
3:21 - Yeonmi Park tells her story about escaping North Korea
9:25 - Elon Musk declares the death of cancel culture
26:42 - Reaction to Yale discriminating against asian students
35:13 - At what age is Sex Ed in schools appropriate?
53:52 - Reaction to Don Lemon’s suspension from CNN
1:13:02 - Reaction to Biden's surprise visit to Ukraine
1:34:47 - Bernie Sanders exposed for socialist hypocrisy
1:41:53 - Reaction to Disney employees protesting a 4 day workWeek
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You just have to know at the email to see it says at Instagram, if not at this fraud.
Anyways, hey, it's good to have you guys here with us on this podcast, this special podcast with somebody that is making a major impact around the world with her story, a timely story for many of us in America who need to hear this story, who don't think your freedoms can be taken away from you.
Last time her and I got together and we sat down and spoke was a few years ago.
The amount of interest in the story and what happened with it was unbelievable.
And her first book was a major bestseller and she's got a new one that's coming out called While Time Remains, a North Korean Defector Search for Freedom in America, the one and only Yon Me Park.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you for having me on this past.
Vinny's very happy to be sitting next to you.
Just so you know, he's been asking about this.
And there was a fight and then Vinny said, I have to sit next to her, but we're very happy to have you here.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you for welcoming me.
So, you know, there's a lot of things we'll cover today.
Some people don't know your story.
We have some stories here that we want to talk about.
Something happened in Russia that hasn't happened since the 70s.
Something Russia did that they haven't done since the 70s, which is pretty wild.
It has to do with preparation for a big war, a World War III type of war, especially after Biden visited Ukraine this last week instead of going to East Palestine.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about some of the things that's going on with Don, how do you say his last name?
Don Lamond.
Don Lamon.
We'll talk about him.
Killing it.
DeSantis and Trump going back and forth, the name calling.
And at the same time, DeSantis doing his part.
I'd like to get your thoughts on that with woke agenda, what's going on with schools.
I got a couple videos I want to show you to get your reaction on that.
And then Tom's got some stories on Disney that he wants to comment on.
Elon Musk declares cancel culture over since Twitter takeover.
He says you won't be missed.
I'm curious to know if you agree with Elon whether cancel culture is over or not.
And then a couple other fun stories.
One, Tiger Woods.
I don't know if you know what Tiger Woods did this last week.
Did you hear about the story or no?
Have you heard about what he did to one of his competitors?
You have to hear the story to know to get your reaction on it.
Anyways, having said that, Yomi, if you don't mind, last time we spoke a lot about your story.
Yeah.
And the audience knows your story.
But some of the people that are new audiences that are with us that may not know your story, would you mind taking a minute and sharing your background with the audience?
Yeah, where do I even begin?
I was born in North Korea and not knowing that I was born in the most oppressed country.
I think that's how I tell Americans when they say they're oppressed.
Like if you know you're oppressed, you're not oppressed.
Like not knowing is the definition of oppression.
I believe I was living in the best country on earth.
It was a socialist paradise.
And I had this thing, a song called Nothing to Envy because we were living in a socialist paradise.
So I think with that, I just have no idea what was going on in the world.
When I was 13 years old, I just couldn't simply find any more food.
So that led me to escape to China.
Then crossing the Galby Desert into Mongolia after two years, then go to South Korea.
And then five years after I came to America.
All while you're how old?
It was from me, 13 to 15.
I was crossing the desert and then come to America when I was 21 years old.
That's unbelievable.
You know, when people hear a story like that.
How often, Yomi, when you tell your story, people almost don't believe it.
They think it's like you're just telling a story.
There's no way that story is real.
Yesterday I posted a picture of me in the military and I post a couple pictures in the army and I'll get messages.
People say, that picture doesn't look like you.
That's not you.
And I'll say, hey, I was born and raised in Iran and, you know, here's what Iran was like when we're getting bombed.
There's no way that's true.
You're just telling a story out of Argo.
How often do you hear people say, you know, Yomi, you can't tell me it was that bad?
So in some sense, I think I got lucky because, I mean, remember when Americans, a tourist, Orwombir from the Virginia Tech University, he went to North Korea and then he was sentenced for hard labor for 15 years for stealing a banner.
And then they tortured him and they rearranged his old teeth.
Oh my God.
And then he came out of the vegetable state that Trump brought him back.
So I think Americans understood if that's what they do to American white men.
I mean, they can't even imagine what they would do to their own people.
So I think when it comes to North Korean issue, at least still between Democrats and the Republicans understand complete black.
Nobody argues it's somehow gray.
But how they want to approach solve the problem is different.
So then, you know, for some, again, the question, why are you so optimistic, though?
You know, when I see you and I met you, we went to lunch afterwards.
You had very nice things to say about Adam.
You thought Adam was part of the LGBTQ community.
I don't know if you remember this or not.
Oh, yeah.
But you gay, right?
Oh, that was her.
That was her.
She asked Adam if Adam's gay.
You said you're very nice and you dress well, so you must be gay.
I was like, I will show you who's not gay right now.
You know what I mean?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But we are friends.
But you're always optimistic.
You're personality.
You seem like you have the attitude, the future looks bright.
But then at the same time, you have the, you know, the perspective you present of, hey, let's stay paranoid because we don't know what could happen here, even in America.
How do you balance that level of optimism with the life that you've lived and have a little bit of paranoia to say we got to keep fighting for this freedom?
Yeah, I think in general, I'm an optimist.
I think there are only just over 200 defectors made it to America over the last 80 years.
Say that one part again?
Over the last 80 years, only 209 North defectors make America.
Over the last 80 years, 209 have made it to America.
That's intense.
And I'm one of them.
Wow.
That's right.
And they made it pretty hard, right?
I mean, now it's almost impossible.
You cannot escape.
Like, they set up landmines and electric fence.
And it's made it.
It's impossible to get up.
That was actually a question for you and me.
The escape process.
I know we have a lot of stuff we want to get through today, but just the escape process when you did it.
How difficult was just that component of it?
And how more difficult, how much more difficult would it be now?
So my time was like every 10 meters with the actual human guard with the machine gun standing there.
Every 10 meters it was a human guard.
But now, actually, China gave them the technology of the facial recognition camera everywhere on Chinese side and North Korean side both.
They put the electrified wire fences and they buried the landmines to kill his own people.
And then he put the people moved away from the border towns.
So now it's literally impossible.
Literally walking.
When's the last time someone escaped?
Like, I don't know.
Don't even let one single ant cross between borders.
And when you escaped, you said there was a soldier every 10 meters.
So I assume you did it in the dark.
How did you disguise yourself?
How did you go under the radar, so to speak?
So the reason how I didn't get shot was the people were helping me, the traffickers.
They were selling us to human traffickers in China.
So they bribed the guard.
But the problem was they're every 10 meters.
You cannot bribe all of them.
It's too expensive.
So they bribed one guard and that post.
So we could always shout from other posts.
So that's why it was very dangerous.
Yeah, by the way, if you haven't watched the entire episode that her and I went through, the story is a lot darker and deeper than we have to get into today because there's so many things that's happened from the last time we spoke to today that I want to get your opinions on what's going on with current events.
I think that's very important for us to cover.
And then obviously we'll put the link below for the audience to get as well.
So let's go into the first story.
The first story I saw with Elon Musk that came out and he said, Elon Musk declares cancel culture is over since Twitter takeover.
And that's one of the things you speak out about a lot.
And here's what he said.
Let me just read the story to you.
Elon, the CEO of Twitter, recently declared that cancel culture is over just months after his takeover of the social media company.
He made the comment on Tuesday following an exchange between journalist Matt Taibi and Joe Rogan on Rogan's podcast.
Joe Rogan shared on the podcast that people aren't scared to speak their mind on Twitter.
And you're seeing so much pushback since Musk's acquisition.
They're not worried about losing their account, which they were before Rogan added Taibi, who helped publish some of Musk's Twitter files, said, I hope people are feeling encouraged to say more now.
When Musk bought Twitter in October of 2022 for $44 billion, he promised to protect free speech on the platform, saying that Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of humanity are debated.
Musk had previously declared that cancel culture needs to be canceled, and he's saying now it's officially canceled.
Do you think cancel culture is officially canceled?
As a moment of yesterday, I guess.
Sure, yeah, as of right now.
Do you think right now people, the whole concept of worrying about getting your channel shut down or your YouTube or your Twitter account taken away from you or Facebook?
You know, now that Trump got Twitter back, he got Facebook back, he got all of these accounts back.
Do you think the days of being afraid of speaking out are behind us?
That's interesting because my poster shows as a sensitive post to a lot of my followers.
On Twitter or actually on Twitter.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So even till this morning, someone's like, why can't I see her post?
These are real comments I get.
You guys don't get that.
No, you're talking about shadow banning?
Yeah, you post and it's a sensitive material.
Hopefully, we'll want to see it.
On Twitter.
On Facebook, absolutely.
I don't see it on Twitter.
Let me look at your tweets.
So my followers keep saying that, like, why can't I see this post?
So, like, I think maybe at least 30% of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I posted something on Instagram, and then a bunch of people were, it had nothing to do with COVID, but it kept putting this the COVID warning.
How recent was that?
This was about a week, week and a half ago.
And it was absolutely nothing about COVID.
But people are like, why do we see this?
It's a comedy sketch about something completely different.
But Instagram is still putting that tag on it.
Instagram is.
By Facebook.
Facebook is.
I don't know if YouTube is doing anything with it, but YouTube will still comment on, hey, this went a little bit too far or certain things would say.
Do you think cancel culture is over with?
I think this is what is known as a self-fulfilling prophecy that our friend Elon Musk is reaching out for.
I think we're starting to see the infancy stages of cancel culture, like this anti-woke agenda that Ron DeSantis and certain other people are sort of spearheading.
No, I don't think cancel culture is over.
And I'll tell you why, because you also have tens of millions of Gen Z, for the most part, who are the Kickstarters of cancel culture, and they're not going anywhere.
And they're doubling down on some of their things that they believe in, their ideology, whether it's sort of the LGBT stuff or whether it's the critical race theory or whether it's a 1619 project.
These things aren't going anywhere.
What I think will help identify sort of like the canary in the cold mine of what where cancel culture will be is the 2024 election.
We'll see where that kind of goes because I think if it is Ron DeSantis or even Trump on the right versus whoever ends up being on the left, if it's Biden or Newsome or Kamla, whoever, I think that'll be sort of an identifier.
But no, I do not think that it is over.
I think even within Twitter, it is not over.
I think that he's done a good job of making it more of a free speech platform, but I think he still removed Kanye.
I think there's some certain things.
He didn't remove Kanye.
He suspended Kanye.
Yeah.
And by the way, I don't think it is, though.
I think that is like, there's a difference between getting your license suspended and taken away, right?
If you get like, listen, I had 21 speeding tickets.
One day I'm driving with a guy.
I'm trying to teach him how to sell insurance policies.
This is 18 years ago, 17 years ago.
Cop pulls me over, says, what are you doing?
I said, I'm on the 101 freeway.
I'm trying to get to a client's house.
He says, what are you doing driving with a suspended license?
I said, I don't even know if my license has been suspended.
Your license is suspended for a year.
I had to get out of the car.
Somebody had to come pick me up, take me.
Guess what?
Yes, I deserve to have my license suspended at the time.
But then I got it back.
And then I lost it again.
I got it back again.
Eventually, I'm driving, right?
Cancel culture.
I think when Elon is saying this, he may be right because to him, think about if you're Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is for sure, cancel culture is for sure canceled for him on Twitter.
100%.
100%.
For sure, it's canceled for him on Twitter.
Now, do I think it's decreased on Twitter?
Yes.
100%.
Do I think people are saying stuff on Twitter that they couldn't get away with, you know, a year ago?
1 million percent.
I don't think you could have gone away with it six months ago on Twitter.
Do I think some things are broken because the new engineers, I'll give you an idea.
We have an app that we developed.
Tom knows this story.
So we moved away from one of the developers that we hired.
We moved away to a bigger developer because of a team of 500 people and they can do stuff for us that the other guys couldn't do.
The new developers updated seven different things that worked incredibly well, but they broke two things that was working well.
I don't know if that makes sense.
Seven things work sick, but two things that were not broken, they broke it by trying to fix seven other things.
So I think Elon's Tesla engineers or whoever he brought in right now may be breaking some stuff while fixing 80 things.
And I think the users have to be a little bit patient, but people are not afraid of saying stuff today than they were afraid of six months ago.
But Adam made a great point, but let's just say Trump wins in 2024.
You don't think, and I know they're cleaning up and all these Twitter files and the FBI is embedded.
The FBI is going to Twitter and monitoring for a political party.
You don't think they're still going to be there when if, let's say, Trump wins.
Those people are still there.
The FBI, to me, is all left, all Democrat voting.
Remember that one time I asked, how many Republicans are actually in the FBI?
When the FBI is that involved, bro, that cancel, it's going to come back.
You'll see.
I don't necessarily agree that all the FBI or the CIA is all Democrats.
I don't think so.
I don't think it's a problem.
Majority at all.
However, what I do want to ask, since you're a comedian, is how many times can you be canceled?
What do I mean?
We just saw that Roseanne Barr, Roseanne Arnold, or whatever she goes by these days, Roseanne, was canceled a few years back.
And now she's on tour again.
And her whole thing is, well, you can't cancel me again.
It's like even Andrew Taten is an example.
It's like, I've already been canceled.
The Matrix has used all their bullets.
Well, now they've used another one.
He's in jail.
But can you get canceled again, I guess, is the question.
You just nailed it, though.
She was canceled.
Remember, she did the national anthem and she like mocked it.
That was one of the first cancels.
They were like, you're done.
They just laughed at her.
Canceled.
No, Americans.
They pull you off of your show.
They remove you from your platform.
You're done.
That's what happened with Roseanne.
I think you make a good point about the 2024 election, Adam, is that we're going to see how does the populace really think about candidates and about what they stand for for these kind of things.
And that's going to show up.
But I think Elon Musk was saying is, I can't read his mind, but the way I read it is, cancel culture is done at Twitter.
I'm done taking orders from the outside.
We're trying to fix things and do it.
And I think he was very adamant about that.
And I think he's also saying, you know, and I'm not going away.
And I think it was a vision statement for the rest of us because I see it's not getting better, you know, everywhere.
Certain places, it's getting better.
Everybody's like, oh, change the leadership at YouTube.
Maybe this is a sign that some things are going to be different.
Maybe you can have an opinion on COVID that won't get shut down at YouTube.
And I think, so that's why I read it, Pat.
I read it kind of as a vision statement and I'm not going away.
And cancel culture is done at Twitter.
And he knows his impact on the rest of the world.
He's an influencing voice.
So that's kind of the way I read it.
I'll say something here.
And then, Yurmi, if you got any thoughts, we can go to the next story.
So here's one thing I will say.
I think when you know it is Facebook, Instagram, everybody, kind of given Trump reinstating him on the accounts.
I think a lot of these guys, including YouTube, maybe firing Susan, the CEO of YouTube, maybe a lot of these guys are sitting there saying, dude, let's just make sure they don't target and find out our freaking YouTube files.
What if they find out Facebook files and Instagram files?
Holy shit, if they figure this part out.
So listen, let's kind of accommodate.
Let's kind of slow our roll on the strikes and the banning and this and that.
And let's kind of let people loose a little bit more.
Let's kind of know that this is going to be the year of investigations, Fauci and Twitter files and, you know, Biden and Hunter Biden and all they're going to be investigating.
Everybody, let's just pump the brakes.
The people that were committing the crime, I think they kind of want to be away from all the, what do you call it, investigations that's taking place.
If you look at the social media influencers, you'll notice a couple different things.
Watch how the loudmouth NFT people, how loud they were a year and a half ago.
Look how quiet they are today.
That's all you have to see.
Whispers.
How a year ago NFTs were the greatest things in sliced bread.
They're so quiet and they're talking about kindness.
And they're saying, hey, yeah, let's just kind of roll.
And it's all about love.
And you know what they're trying to say?
Please love me and leave me alone with the money that I made selling all these NFTs to people that 99% of them are wasted time.
I think that's kind of what's happening.
However, here's the thing.
From an Iranian and somebody who's from North Korea and somebody who struggled growing up in Miami, you know, we have to know that you have to forever and ever fight for freedom of speech.
I don't think there's ever going to be a time where cancel culture is canceled.
I don't think there will ever, ever be a time where you're going to be free of that ever.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, totally.
Actually, you mentioned about FBI.
I was invited to speak at FBI Dallas last year.
And then like two days right before my event, the head of diversity calls me.
And then she calls me, my political opinions are too controversial.
So she has cancelled me to get out of here.
Bingo.
At FBI.
I told you.
But we agreed that I'm going to only speak about my experience from North Korea, nothing about American politics, just my journey to freedom.
And they still didn't let you?
No.
In Dallas.
Wow.
FBI did.
Which is in Texas, which is still a red state.
I know.
So that's very weird.
What was the justification?
I guess I was not diverse enough.
I'm in the head of diversity.
I'm an Asian defector.
North Korea.
You're not diverse enough.
What does that mean exactly?
I think they are looking for maybe like skin color of diversity, right?
But my thoughts were too controversial in her mind that I don't know what it was.
Just calls me like your political opinions, literally political opinions are too controversial.
So we can have you here.
And going on my point, and Adam, I understand where you're kind of coming from, but if I'm interested to see, Rob, if you could even look up, you're not going to see it.
What are the percentage of FBI agents that are left-leaning or Democrat?
Because where are all the Republicans when the FBI has been doing all this dirt for all their years?
What do we have?
Two whistleblowers that were like, hey, guys, collusion and small little whistleblowers, but the majority of them are what?
They're all left, bro.
They all work with Hillary.
They all work with all these guys.
I'm very, very curious to see how many of them are actually, how many they're letting in that actually go to the right.
Yeah, because I'm not seeing that.
Actually, I think you made a really good point about just sort of the timeliness of where we're at.
Would you agree that 2020, 2021, with the election, with COVID, with lockdowns, with mandates, with Gen Z sort of being this is their first time to vote, all that kind of culminating, that that was the worst of the worst of the worst with this cancel culture.
Meaning it can't get worse than it was during COVID, right?
Like in the greater context, like we're sort of coming out of it.
We're seeing the economy.
We're seeing just the pushback from whether it's Musk and Twitter and things being more open, you know, less people getting canceled.
Do you think we've seen the worst of it is my question.
On the cancel culture side?
All of that, correct.
Well, okay, so here's the part that for me, I'll get comfortable with.
Okay.
So if you think about the school system, when we're talking about the number of people, teachers, professors, we talked about this a couple podcasts ago where they measure purely by the dollar contribution.
School teachers, this is why I want everybody to consider taking their kids out of public school and putting them in private schools and consider homeschooling.
I recommend every parent consider taking their kids out of public schools and putting it in private school or homeschooling if you can afford it.
English teachers out of 100 teachers in America, 97 were Democrats, three were Republicans in public school.
Health teachers in America out of 100, 99 Democrats, one Republican.
Math and science teachers out of 100 based on contribution, 87 Democrat, 13 Republican.
That is a monopoly.
It's not a 50-50, okay?
Private schools are not 80% Republican, 70% Republican, or 60% Republican.
They're still 60% Democrat because most teachers are not making enough money where their policies would be policies to vote on maybe on one side.
60% of teachers in private school are still Democrats, but it's a little bit more of a balanced situation.
So where am I going to answer your question here?
Here's my answer to your question.
What's happening is for 15 years, these social media companies were all owned by the left.
Yep.
Yep.
For 15 years.
So guess what?
When Alex Jones got canceled, the next day, 100 people canceled him.
Why?
Because they're all on the same page.
It's one phone call.
Hey, Facebook.
Hey, Google.
Hey, YouTube.
Hey, PayPal.
Hey, this hate that.
The next that we interviewed him, it was 9-11, by the way, when I interviewed him in Austin.
I want to say this was four or five years ago, 2019, maybe, 2018.
I don't know the exact year when we sat down and we interviewed Alex Jones.
The day after he got canceled, we were with him.
This guy gets canceled.
So now, does he say crazy things?
Of course he does.
Does he get himself in trouble all the time?
Of course he does.
But today, today, a guy like that saying something, they have to be a little bit more methodical to cancel everybody because Elon Musk.
Now, here's what we need more of.
We need one or two more to be bought.
Look at what Spotify did.
The best thing with Spotify, you guys have no idea how big of a role Spotify played a year ago with Joe Rogan when everybody was saying cancel, cancel, cancel Joe Rogan.
What is Spotify?
A company out of Sweden?
Sweden, yeah.
And they said, yeah, no, we're not going to cancel him.
Not doing it.
What do you mean?
We're not going to cancel him.
2018 was the Alex Jones interview.
September 13th, the video went out, but the interview was on 9-11.
Yeah, I'm not canceling him.
You're not canceling?
No, we're not going to cancel Joe Rogan.
So everybody was hoping if, if Spotify, I cannot tell you guys how big of a role Spotify played in the concept of cancel culture.
If Spotify would have said, no, we are going to cancel Joe Rogan, let me tell you, massively problematic for a lot of people in America.
If Spotify would have canceled Joe, Joe now gets, everybody else is now saying, damn, the guy from Sweden is also defending what they're doing here in the U.S., then we had a problem.
Spotify helped cancel culture in America more than Americans even know.
So shout out to, is it Daniel Eck, the founder and the CEO of Spotify?
Whatever you're doing out there, building your platform, when's the last time you heard about somebody getting canceled on Spotify?
I haven't.
When's the last time you heard somebody getting their shows taken down on Spotify?
No one even talks about Spotify.
They're very, everybody talks Rumble, but Rumble is a conservative platform.
Spotify has left, right, middle, those who hate Republicans, those who can't stand capitalism, and they're totally okay with it.
I'm telling you, one of the most important companies on cancel culture, the last 12 months was Spotify.
Thank God.
They get very little credit for what they did.
And if you look at Northern Europe, and we could digress on this, but I will and I won't.
First of all, you have Spotify that's up there.
Second of all, you have Finland and Sweden, where there's some very different views about COVID and masks and vaccination.
And so Northern Europe has been an anchor of assistance fighting against this.
I have a question I'd like to ask for you.
You know, because I'm starting to see it here in America where that the Asian community is not being treated as one of the ethnic minorities.
And they are being treated as quasi-conservative.
Yale University had a big lawsuit about how they were discriminating heavily against Asian students so that they could have more numbers of other minorities that would come in and get federal grants.
So they were bringing minorities, admitting them into Yale.
And after Biden won the election, this is the federal government dropped the suit.
And so I'm hearing a lot about that.
What are you seeing?
Obviously, you saw it firsthand with the FBI.
Are you seeing this in other areas where, you know, Asians coming to this country are being treated as, well, it's harder to turn you into a lifelong Democrat.
You're more likely to be conservative.
And so we're taking steps.
Have you seen that since you've been here?
Yeah, I think I heard that very often.
I talk about, did I talk about the cancer culture and the danger of it and talk about the oppression, the real oppression is happening in China and North Korea or Iran.
And they say that, like, how do you know about oppression?
Because you are a white passing person.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it's interesting.
Like, they view now Asians as white because we are also making a lot of money, I think.
Who is saying this to you?
I mean, like, college students.
Listen, as a white guy, I don't think that Asians, I've never been like, look at those Asians over there.
Oh, those white people, they're privileged.
It just, this isn't adding up to me.
I don't want to talk about that.
You talk about the admissions screws.
But let me just go to the story that validates what she's saying.
I think I understand what you're saying fully, that physically you're like, yeah, you're not a white guy.
But categorically, they think there is such thing as Asian privilege.
The privilege part, that they see white privilege and Asian privilege, that being a real thing.
Let me just read the story.
Most Americans think college admissions should not consider race.
Okay.
62% of Americans say race and ethnicity should not be considered at all in college admissions, according to a new Reuters poll.
The public opinion found that 73% of Republicans and 46% of Democrats said they were against race conscious admissions or affirmative action, which is a practice used by colleges and universities to boost racial diversity within their student bodies.
Again, 73% of Republicans say, no, I don't want to know about the race.
I just want to know who's the best student.
But 46% of Democrats say, meaning 54% say, no, we have to consider what race it is before you get into college.
Grades don't matter.
Your race does, right?
That's what they're saying.
67% of white respondents said they were against considering race at all in admissions compared to 52% of minority respondents.
The conservative leaning U.S. Supreme Court will issue ruling this spring in cases questioning the legality of race-conscious admissions practices at Harvard and University of North Carolina.
The group behind the lawsuit, student for fair admissions, says that UNC discriminations discriminates against white and Asian American applicants and Harvard discriminates against Asian American applicants.
That was a question Tom was asking.
Do you think we should consider race when it comes down to going to universities?
I think that's what I was writing in my book.
That's like the tactics they use to divide people and punish people for collective guilt.
Like they're saying like, oh, Adam is white, therefore his ancestors were privileged people and now he should be guilty, right?
I think that tactic is like a very North Korean tactic.
Like my great-grandfather was a landowner, so they were saying when I was born, my genetics is oppressive.
My blood is tainted.
Therefore, I can never be forgiven, even though that was not my choice to own the land.
Now in America, we punish people.
Like I have a son who's a half-white, so screwed.
He's supposed to be guilty about a privilege that he's a person.
He's half-white and Asian.
Yeah, I mean, he's double guilty.
He's double guilty.
According to these guys.
Yeah.
And actually, based on just marriage, the competence, it says just Asians should be at Harvard.
More than 70% of them should be Asians.
If you're going to let them in buy the merit and exam score.
But then Harvard only accepts 11 point something percent each year because they have the quota, race quota.
So actually the real victims of affirmative action is like Asians.
They saw it so hard and that's how they get punished for it.
So I think this is one of the things that I see we become like North Korea.
We do not value the merit and competence and somehow accepting dividing people based on what they are not responsible for, which is a collective guilt.
I think you hit the nail on the head there is that more than anything in America, not only are we a democracy, but we are a meritocracy.
You talked about merit.
Why are Asians overwhelmingly being considered or admitted to Harvard is because they fucking kick ass in school?
How about that?
Like if you look at certain ethnicities, okay, I'm Jewish.
If you look at income in America, you could fact check this.
I don't know.
I want to say Asians and Jews are leading the list.
Okay, also Indians to a certain extent as well.
And why is that?
Because they come from a culture that values hard work and education.
And there's a culture and the tight-knit family and family values and being raised in a two-parent household.
And there's a multitude of reasons why these types of people succeed.
Now, from what I know about my Jewish mother, they're a lot more like kissy, huggy, huggy than a lot of my Asian friends.
I've had conversations with my Asian friends.
They're more bowing and all that.
But the family values and the close-knit value and the emphasis on education is tantamount to these types of families.
And no wonder there's going to be success.
Like the Tiger Mom story about all that is like they demand that you do your work.
Like, is anyone going to be shocked that Pat's kids are going to do well and successful?
Why?
Because it's a meritocracy even in his house.
Did you read?
Did you shoot your shots?
Did you just play outside today?
Did you do all your work?
If you did that, then you can go play video games and have fun with your friends.
But there's accountability there.
And that's exactly what's going on in Asian households and a lot of times in Jewish households.
And, you know, for other people in America that don't have that type of accountability, when they're not as successful.
Let me ask you.
And by the way, Tycho Dillon Center, Brooklyn, one day you guys watch it.
The pressure isn't on you.
One of you guys is going to do something big.
We'll see which one is.
Listen.
Good dad.
Anyways, let's go over here.
All right.
So going back.
So question, basic question.
And run a poll for this, Rob, so we can see what the audience is saying.
Should, it's a very basic question, yes or no, all of us.
Should American colleges consider race when accepting applications?
Adam.
I think race should not be on a top 10 list.
Okay, Vinny.
No.
I 100% say no.
Tom?
No.
No.
Okay.
Now, of course, it's going to be no for my end, you know, too, too.
And by the way, here's what's crazy.
I should say yes.
Do you know why?
Because if my kids apply and they say they're from Iran, it's like, hey, we need to hit our numbers for Iran.
Let these guys in.
So I can pick and choose one of them.
I can say Armenian.
I can say Syrian.
Listen, there's only two of us in America.
Future minimums, you know, but I get the EMEA percent, right?
You get the EMEA percent.
Europe, Middle East, Africa, Emea.
We need some of that.
Check.
Listen, look at who is the current up-and-coming superstar in the NBA that's 23 years old?
Luca Donjo.
Okay.
How high does he jump?
What's the little bit?
Vertical leap is not.
He's huge.
He's just a big guy.
But he's a great player.
Yes.
And nobody should care what skin color he is.
He just kicks out.
He's not even from America, by the way.
He's from a, you know, where is he from?
Slovania.
Slovania, right?
On what he does.
So, anyways, okay, so that's that part with this.
I'm going to go to within the education realm of stories.
I kind of want to talk to you on curriculum having to do with sexuality.
So if you can prepare this video, Rob, English teacher sexuality curriculum showing kids penis pics, ejaculation video has school approval issues.
Okay, so let's kind of take a look at this one here.
This just came out a couple of days ago, kind of weird.
Obviously, Al Vernaccio, an English teacher at Friends Central School, a private school in Pennsylvania, like I told you, most private school doesn't mean they're all Republicans if it's private school, okay?
Has been involved in school's sexuality curriculum from nursery to 12th grade.
Vernaccio revealed that he showed close-up photos of genitalia and a video of a woman ejaculating in optional sexuality class to desensitize children and teach them about the broad range of what is out there.
Students in 11th and 12th grade were exposed to these graphic lessons but had the option to opt out, and parents had to sign off on enrollments.
The students stood by Vernaccio stating that he is a nationally renowned and highly respected educator.
Vernaccio's goal is to provide age-appropriate, transformative sexuality education for all the students.
He's also commented that every child is a sexual being.
Can you play that?
Let him just watch this motivational video by this guy.
Just watch this for a second.
At my school, I'm responsible for the sexuality education of all of our students, from our youngest students who are three years old in nursery school up through our 12th graders who are turning 18 and getting ready to leave high school.
That's a huge range, but every single one of those kids is a sexual being.
They have been since birth.
And at every age and stage, we can offer them age-appropriate, transformative sexuality education.
I'm only a small part of the village that supports them as they grow.
It's not enough that I teach them.
We have to teach them.
Part of my message today is that we all, no matter what else we do in life, need to find a way to be sexuality educators for the kids in our lives.
If we don't step up, others will.
And many of those others don't see fullness and freedom the way we do.
One of the things we can see is how young people have so many more options to consider than simply whether they feel like a boy or a girl.
I think Chris Hansen's going to come up.
I'm going to identify as gay, straight, or bisexual.
Our understandings of both gender and orientation.
Rob, you can't stop it at this point.
You get the idea on what's going on here.
So I can play more and read more about this article.
Tom, as a parent of two daughters, okay, one is in high school and one's in fifth grade or fourth grade.
Sixth grade, just sixth grade.
Just now.
How do you feel about what this teacher is doing and whether we should be a little bit more comfortable with this?
I think we should be uncomfortable about it.
What they are is they're evolving what's out there to sexualize kids early.
We have had sex education in school and had films for girls and a lot of things.
Your body is changing and all these things.
We have had these things in America for 50 years and those have been changing along with to include things about STDs and things like that and then leaving it to the parents to conduct the rest of the discussions.
You have a joke, you have the talk with your boys.
And that's it.
And I'm kind of alarmed when I listen to this.
Between the lines there, children have more choices.
So what they're doing is they're putting ideas in kids' heads about what their sexual choices are according to the new list that he has.
And is that list now going to be 21 items long, You know, five years from now, I don't know, but I think the parents and schools have done a good job up to this point.
And you have basically the sexual, the agenda is to hypersexualize our kids and to introduce things in there to get them more quickly on that path.
This isn't about education.
This is about indoctrination.
By the way, if anybody knows how to get a hold of him, whoever this teacher is, Al Renaccio, I'm in contact with the gentleman, Frank Rodriguez.
I want to say his name is I play this video.
Remember Gates Against Groomers.
If Alice had Alice or Al, if Al has this much conviction in his beliefs, Frank would be more than happy to have a conversation with you because I asked Frank if he's open to me bringing other people to you give your argument, let him give his argument to talk about why you're grooming kids.
And by the way, what is it with these teachers who are so obsessed with teaching kids on sexuality?
Why do they all look the same?
I don't know.
One more point.
One more point.
10 years ago, a female teacher that showed pictures of her breasts to a male student ultimately ended up in a fair.
She's doing time.
This guy, this guy, is she really doing time?
Yeah, go back and look at.
It's pretty wild.
You know what I mean?
Oh, you were grooming young boys.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Lolita.
I mean, I have a child, right?
It's a heartbreaking that it's my child that we are letting other schools do this.
Like it's in North Korea.
You know, it's not your child.
The school is going to shape the child.
And not just like, I mean, children should be children.
Like, I don't, in North Korea, you have not had any sex education.
So maybe some of it when you're ready is fine.
But to three, from three years old, I think this is a new thing they are going for.
The left is going for is they call it map, the minor attracted person.
It's not a pedophile anymore.
If you attract a child, you're not a pedophile.
You're like minor attracted person.
They're trying to normalize this concept that it's okay to be attracted to a toddler.
It's just beyond evil and beyond disgusting.
And like, I don't know.
Like, it's yeah.
Yeah.
Something's going on.
It's a horrible one.
Nowadays, it gender is a construct, right?
You said something.
If you can unpack this, you said in North Korea, do they look at North Korea that if you have a kid, it's the country's kids.
Is that kind of how they view it?
It's a collective.
It's ours.
Our people's not yours.
Of course not.
We cannot say I. There's no I. Wow.
You can't say I.
Yeah.
Like that our people.
You can't say, I feel this.
No.
I like water now.
We like water.
We like kimchi.
We like barbecue.
Wow.
We like.
It's very important to understand.
You can't even use the word I.
I am happy.
I want to go to the park today.
So what is it?
Just we are happy.
We want to go to the park.
Dude, this is a very bizarre leads to individual competition among individuals, winners and losers.
Oh, we can't have that in communism.
Yeah.
I saw a documentary.
I'm pretty sure you've heard about it.
I don't know if it was on Netflix or something.
Just the pure, the sheer, like the, not the brainwash, but the devotion.
I forgot who was in charge, but this American doctor went there and all these blind, like all these people that had basically cataract, they're all blind.
He cured like, I don't know how many hundreds or thousands.
And the first thing they did when their eyes were open, they went to the supreme leader's picture and were bowing and kissing and crying.
It's not like she just said, it's not about, it was, and like if you didn't show that, I'm pretty sure you got punished for it.
But it was so like you just, you're seeing for the first time some of them in their lives and they didn't want to talk to any kid.
They were just, they saw the picture of him and they went and they bowed and they cried and they gave him all the, it was all him.
Well, well, I have a question.
Go ahead.
Well, we will give you our answer.
Well, yeah, you collectively.
Yeah, because we're on the topic of the sexualization of kids and all that.
I'm just wondering as parents, it doesn't seem to be a black and white thing.
You can't talk about it.
You can talk about it.
At this age, you can do it.
At this age, you can't do it.
So, you know, there's a big difference, I think, between, you know, K through six versus, you know, high school, right?
So by the way, you are absolutely right.
This guy looks like a complete creep right now.
He reminds me of the principal in Billy Madison, the revolting blob.
If you want to pull up his picture, Rob.
It's uncanny how this guy is just that weird.
But I was having a conversation with my nephew yesterday, who's 10 years old.
And I have an active role in his life as like his uncle.
Like, you know, he slept over this weekend.
Like, that's my guy.
And we're playing football, playing baseball.
So I have a moment with him yesterday and I said, so, you know, how's school going?
All that.
I go, so who are your closest friends?
Talk to me about the guys and, you know, the homies.
He's like, well, you know, this guy, this guy.
I go, well, any girls that you think are pretty?
And he's like, don't ask me about that.
You know, I'm like, well, what you got?
And he's like, well, there's two.
There's two.
I'm like, all right, my guy, you know?
And we start having this conversation.
And very nonchalantly, he's like, well, you know, there's a couple of kids in my class that are G-A-Y.
And, you know, I'm just, but I do my thing.
I'm just like, oh, what?
What does that mean?
He goes, yeah, they're G-A-Y.
And I doesn't say the word.
Yeah.
And keep in mind, he's 10 years old.
He's in fourth grade.
I've never discussed this with him in his life.
I don't talk to him about this.
And I go, what does that mean?
He goes, don't play dumb with me.
10 years old.
Come on, Adam.
And I go, what are your thoughts on that?
He goes, well, you know, they can do what they want.
And I think we've known this for some time.
10 years old.
Wow, he's smart.
And I go, well, you know, you like girls, right?
He's like, yeah, I like the girls.
And I go, just treat them nice.
There's nothing wrong with them, but just know that that's their thing.
That's not your thing.
But the point is this.
I had no idea he even knew that word.
I had no idea that he even understood what that meant.
So that was like a moment for me where I was like, holy crap, my nephew, the kid that I helped raise, I had no idea that these are conversations.
I said, who taught you about it?
He goes, oh, my friends, we talk about it.
So the kids know about this stuff is what I was saying.
Pat's on the podcast, Uncle Adam.
I saw it on the podcast for the nice lady.
Yeah, you were here.
You want to love Pat?
Not that there's anything wrong.
There's nothing wrong with G-A-Y.
It's funny.
Pat's son, Dylan.
The other day, I was like, I was like, so Dylan, what's up?
I heard you.
What's up with the girl?
He's like, yeah, what's her name?
The girl that he's dating.
He's like, yeah, whatever.
It's just nonchalant.
And then just yesterday, he's like, Vinny, Vinny.
I was like, yeah, this villain.
Do you love Kelly?
He goes, what are you talking about?
He's like, I mean, Kelly, you love Kelly?
I'm like, yeah, but where are you going to?
And then five minutes later, Sona's like, hey, Vinny, do you like that girl over there?
Because she's acted with you.
I'm like, I love the, they're asking questions, but then at the moment, like, Pat, it's none of my business to even get into any depth conversation with kids.
Neither should teachers.
Neither should anybody.
That's up to the parents to do whatever.
And sex ed when I was a kid, Tom, I'm pretty sure you had the same thing.
The only sex education we had, it was just like a black and white of the inside of the girl.
They showed the guy.
They were like, I didn't know any details.
And your parents had to sign a form or you could opt out.
It talked about acne and it talked about hormones.
It was very basic.
It was like two days.
Okay, we've seen the basics.
Health class next.
But what I wanted to understand was at what age are these conversations appropriate?
Because what I'm assuming is that they're happening regardless if you want to step in as a parent and have these conversations.
And I've said this before.
Nothing would have been more awkward to me than my dad being like, hey, you know, you got a dick down there, son.
I didn't want to have this conversation with you, Daddy.
I had it very early.
Five years old.
You've heard me tell this story.
Yeah.
Your dad?
No, no, I did with the kids.
Okay, smart.
Yeah, we're in the shower.
I said, that's your dangling.
That's yours.
This is mine.
I said, that's the greatest toy God ever gave you.
Only you get to play with that.
Nobody gets to play with that.
One day, a woman you'll find will help you play with that.
But till then, you're going to play with that by yourself.
Okay.
And the looks on their faces when they looked at me was very awkward.
Jennifer ran out very quickly, but they understood.
And by the way, these things, if you don't talk about these things with your kids, man, and say, hey, there's only three people you can keep secrets with.
Us at the house.
We can have secrets together as a family.
You don't go out there and somebody in school says, hey, this is our secret.
No such thing.
If he gives you a video game, this, a dad, there is no secret.
We, as a family, we can have those types of things.
Later on, when you're married with you and your wife, you guys are going to have your own secrets.
Till then, there's only a couple people you can have secrets.
Anyway, there's a whole things you can do there.
Go ahead.
But what role should the school have in this when talking about this topic?
Yeah, what role should the school have?
Because you had this talk and you even used the word awkward.
I think school, but listen, this guy's showing porn to kids.
That's not sex ed.
That's not healthy.
What he's doing is showing a woman please herself sexually.
That's not, hey, guys, let me show you how I please myself.
Look how great it feels.
This is how you do it.
That's not sex ed.
That's porn.
Okay?
So unless if they want to make porn legal in schools, that's a different story.
A teacher shouldn't be going out there showing these types of things.
Teachers' responsibility is, here's a dangling.
Here's a vagina.
Here's what you do with the condom.
Here's why you do it.
Do not participate in unprotected sex.
Do not participate in sex.
Try to hold off as long as you can.
It's important if you make this decision.
Maybe talk to your parents about this, your faith, whatever commitments it is.
You have to take it from that angle, not from the angle of, so this is what lesbians are.
This is what gays are.
This is what trans is.
This is what this is.
This is what bi is.
And it's normal.
Some people are like that.
You're putting that thought in their head.
You're putting their thought.
You know the Pygmalion theory or the Pygmalion theory?
You know the theory of if I tell you, Adam, if I constantly point out something in you and I say that that whole concept about low-class, low-income, middle-income, upper-class, low-income families that raise kids, they say 600,000 words from 0 to 18 that are a rejection word from 0 to 18.
This is in a book called The Genius in All of Us.
So low-income families, they reject their kids 600,000 times from 0 to 18.
Middle income is 100,000 times rejection.
Upper class parents is 100 times affirming.
You can do it if you pull it off.
You can do it if you work hard for it.
You can do it.
If you do it like the kids, four kids, I said one of them.
Of course, all of them can be successful.
And a couple of them may not do anything with their lives.
But the choice is on who?
On them.
The word that you put instill in my head, that works.
If somebody says, like I told Vinny, I said, Vinny, I think you're super talented.
I think you're super capable.
The other day I told Vinny, he looks like Colin Farrell to me.
Jennifer and I were talking, like, this guy looks like Colin Farrell and Robert Downey Jr.
And, you know, sometimes you say this and you say it privately.
People are like, oh, he's just trying to make me feel good.
And then you say it publicly, and it's real.
I don't say to say it.
Guess what?
Vinny is now going to walk away and say, wow, this guy really believes in me.
But if I say to Vinny, Vinny, if you want to be bi, it's totally cool.
Yeah, you want to be trans.
Maybe you're trans and you don't know it.
So maybe you ought to consider that.
You know, some people are.
Yeah.
Show that picture, by the way, of uh Vinny.
This is Vinny.
Oh, wow.
Last week.
This has been last week.
Why would you do that?
Well, look.
Why would you do that?
Tell me no.
You tell me no.
Go back to it.
I look at it.
I love Yomi.
I love you.
Handsome man.
I love you.
Yomi was like, okay.
If I slick my hair back, you gay, right?
You and Adam could date.
It's okay.
So, to me, that's my biggest concern when you say something like that to my kids or the people around me.
I'm very uncomfortable with certain words.
Words have so much power.
You have to be careful with that.
Anyways, let's go to the next story.
You can't date Adam.
No, no, no, because you know, he's a, you know, yeah, J-O-O.
Yeah, exactly.
Drew.
It's true.
Can I make one last point?
I know we want to move on.
And this is because only how we have parents here, and I think this is important.
You talked about when back in my day with the class, we talked it was a black and white picture, blah, One thing that we have to remember is the internet didn't exist in the 90s when we were growing up.
You look at the stats, and kids are exposed to porn as early as 10 years old at this point on the internet.
I think the average age is 12 years old.
We were lucky if we found a Playboy when we were 12 years old.
It was like, oh my God, what is this?
So somebody's dad had one under the bed.
Exactly.
It might have been the biz doc.
I don't know.
Not at our house.
But my question is: this is these conversations are going to greatly exacerbate and are happening so much quicker because kids are online.
Every kid has their iPad that they just go in their room with at the end of the night.
That didn't exist 20 years ago, 10 years ago, for that matter.
So that has to be a major concern for parents right there.
That's where they're going to be exposed to it online.
You make a good point.
And basically, what it says is every generation will have its challenges with parents.
You know, what do you listen to on the radio?
What are you watching on TV there?
What are you, you know, renting at the video store?
What do you watch on the internet?
And with each generation of parents, the technology is there.
So parents have to moderate what they do when they do it.
My parents had a conversation with me about: hey, nobody touches you, and it's not anybody's little secret because that was a known technique that predators would use to intimidate kids or coerce them.
I'll hurt your sister if you tell anything.
This is our secret.
So my parents alerted me.
They said, nobody touches you, and anybody says this, boom.
And they did that at, you know, I think I was like, you know, seven, eight years old.
I started going to public school.
But Kim and I have had conversations earlier with Bailey and Brooke because of exactly you say, because of the technology that's around.
That just underlines the responsibility of parents, not the obligation of a socially, you know, indoctrinated school.
And that's my two cents.
All right, sounds good.
So here, let's transition to the next story.
So, you know, one of the things, Andrew Tate's been gone now for a few months, for a couple months.
And one of the things he would be very proud of, there's somebody else that's trying to replace him.
Don Lemon.
Don Lemon's been working very hard to be the new Andrew Tate.
Great intro, right?
And it's important to see this.
You know, when you watch this clip of what he said the other day, by the way, when he said this, I retweeted this yesterday and I said, it's obvious.
I'm telling you right now, I'm convinced Don Lemon is obsessed and in love with Andrew Tate and watches non-stop videos and clips.
The only reason you would say something like this is because you watch certain clips of go ahead and play this clip real quick.
See what he said and he got in trouble for it.
All the talk about age makes me uncomfortable.
I think that I think it's the wrong road to go down.
Watches people, you know, politicians or something are not in their prime.
Nikki Haley isn't in her prime.
Sorry.
A woman is considered being a girl.
20s and 30s, and maybe 40s.
What do you talk about?
That's not according to me.
Prime for what?
It depends.
It's just like prime.
If you look it up, if you Google, it'll say 20s, 30s, and 40s.
I don't know.
Oh, I got it in that moment.
I agree with that.
So I think she has to be careful about saying that politicians aren't in their prime.
I don't need a qualifier.
Are you talking about prime for like child boring?
Or are you talking about?
The facts are: Google it.
Everybody at home is not.
Google it.
It says 20.
I'm just saying Nikki Haley should be careful about saying that politicians are not in their prime and they need to be in their prime positions.
By the way, if that was Whippy Goldberg on his left at this five seconds ago in this clip, he would have been shot on camera.
But do you notice for two things?
First, he goes, I don't want to go down that road.
You know what he did?
He went down that road.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
Phil fell down the stairs.
But look, do you see, like, this is his sassiness?
He's like, he's that was him.
Just show that's how, dude, that's how he actually feels.
At the same token, he's a hardcore leftist.
That's doing the jab to let people know.
But he shouldn't be running.
Here's a question, though.
Yeah.
Is he truly a hardcore leftist or has he been spending too much time with hardcore leftists?
Words have power.
Influence has power.
Tom and I. Tom shared a clip the other day with me.
I'm going to show you guys here in a second.
What is your reaction, Yoni, when you hear he says what he says that Nikki Haley is past her prime while Hillary Clinton's in her 70s thinking about running, while Kamala Harris is older than Nikki Haley?
What do you think about when you hear that comment he makes?
I think he's just desperate trying to make a point that why she's not qualifying for the job, right?
But I mean, it's interesting to see him getting pushed back on CNN.
I don't think they ever push back anybody who's Democrat, right?
So maybe CNN is trying new thing.
I don't know.
Well, apparently he's suspended.
He gave an apology to CNN and his colleagues from Miami.
However, never apologize to Nikki Haley.
He's in Miami right now.
With his husband.
Yeah.
And go ahead.
So yeah, well, I think he's gay.
100%.
He's gay.
Oh, yeah, not Adam.
That's not my boyfriend.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Anymore.
So here's what's happening.
You ever see like one of those scary movies and they're like, where is it coming from?
And it's like, the call's coming from inside the house.
That's exactly what's happening here.
On their morning show, two women in their 40s, nonetheless.
And he's like, oh, you old bronze.
Yeah, like, whoa, what just happened here?
The call just came from inside the studio.
So what he's conflating, and this is just clearly, he just Googled prime.
He's conflating two things: a woman's sexual market value with her actual market value.
And those are two completely separate things.
He's correct that a woman's sexual market value is, let's just say, 40 and below.
What does that mean?
Sexual market value is when most men are attracted to women.
It's usually in their mid-20s, give or take.
That's a sexual market value, okay?
Whereas a man reaches his sexual market value typically in his late 30s, typically.
So women, they're beauty objects, where men are success objects.
That's what it comes down to the sexual market value.
What he's conflating, again, is sexual market value with market value.
You could be a hell of a governor or a businesswoman or an entrepreneur or anything well into your 40s, 50s, 60s.
Whether you like Hillary Clinton or not, she was a capable politician.
Let's just put it at that.
So Nikki Haley, who's in her 50s, market value is arguably at its highest it's ever been.
Whereas her sexual market value might not be that high right now.
So I think Don Lemon is just trying to make a point and his foot is so far in his freaking mouth right now that he's just like, ah, vacation, Miami, buy him out.
Here's what I want you to watch.
I want you to watch this.
This is the old Don Lemon when he first got into media.
And not first.
This is not that old, just so you guys know.
This is like five, ten years ago.
But listen to how Don Lemon spoke just 10 years ago.
So the old.
I think this is the real.
Yeah.
Because black people, if you really want to fix the problem, here's just five things that you should think about doing.
Here's number five.
And if this doesn't apply to you, if you're not doing this, then it doesn't apply to you.
I'm not talking about you.
Here's number five.
Pull up your pants.
Walking around with your ass and your underwear showing is not okay.
In fact, it comes from prison when they take away belts from the prisoner so that they can't make a weapon.
And then it evolved into which role a prisoner would have during male-on-mail prison sex.
The one with the really low pants is a submissive one.
You get my point?
Number four now is the N-word.
By promoting the use of that word when it's not germane to the conversation, have you ever considered that you may just be perpetuating the stereotype the master intended?
Acting like a nigger.
Now number three.
Jesus.
Respect where you live.
Start small by not dropping trash, littering in your own communities.
I've lived in several predominantly white neighborhoods in my life.
I rarely, if ever, witness people littering.
I live in Harlem now.
It's an historically black neighborhood.
Every single day I see adults and children dropping their trash on the ground when a garbage can is just feet away.
Just being honest here.
Number two, finish school.
You want to break the cycle of poverty?
Stop telling kids are acting white because they go to school or they speak proper English.
A high school dropout makes on average $19,000 a year.
A high school graduate makes $28,000 a year.
A college graduate makes $51,000 a year.
Over the course of a career, a college grad will make nearly a million dollars more than a high school graduate.
That's a lot of money.
And number one, and probably the most important, just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should, especially without planning for one or getting married first.
More than 72% of children in the African-American community are born.
Imagine this is Don Lemon.
I'm shocked.
I'm absent father.
No, keep playing.
And the studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison.
And the cycle continues.
Are you kidding me?
Could I ask you a question, Pat?
What changes?
I think this is him.
I agree with that.
What happened?
By the way, look at her face.
Can you tell me her face?
Are you shocked or what?
She got Trump.
Yeah.
Don Lemon sounds like Trump.
Well, who that actually does sound like is very reminiscent of Thomas Sow.
That's the type of message you would hear from a black conservative, like a Thomas Sowell type.
And it just, you never hear him talk like that anymore.
Patrick Bet David.
Yeah, but here's my question to you guys, though.
The other great black thumbnail.
What makes you change?
What makes someone like that without your good voice?
Yes, I see the logo that it's CNN, which I don't even give a damn at that point.
How does he change or what changes in the network that he has to turn into this person?
You know what I mean?
I don't know what your politics joking.
But the answer.
The answer is what Yonmi said.
Donald Trump was Trump.
No, but here's the Obama-Trump thing fucked people's heads up.
I agree.
Beyond compare.
I agree.
But you think, but I mean, dude, did you still have a producer?
Like, think about this.
CNN let him say something like this.
There is no way in hell CNN is letting Don Laman say this type of shit.
What year was that?
I have no idea.
2013.
Oh, 2011.
Who was president in 2013?
Obama.
Obama.
Under the Obama administration.
It was okay to be cool.
No, it was just.
Is it okay to call out the nonsense?
By the way, it was familiar with Obama.
It was 2013 after he's re-elected.
Correct.
So, in the middle of Obama, you, as a pundit, opinion, not a journalist, a pundit, are giving your opinion on what black people should do to clean up their life.
Much like we talked about how Asians and Jews and Indians, what they do in the family culture.
Okay.
But once Trump hit the scene, it no longer became a, hey, this is what you need to do to help your life.
This is what you need to do for success.
Pick up your pants, go to school.
None of that.
It was just fuck Trump.
And that's where this whole narrative basically veered off course.
That was a great point.
That was so funny.
By the way, so you just have to think about this.
You become who you hang around with.
Words have power.
If you're around people that are influencing you to think like a victim, you will.
If you're around people that will tell you, stop feeling sorry for yourself, you're either eventually going to hate them and go find people who feel sorry for themselves, or you're going to be like, you know what?
Stop feeling sorry for yourself, man.
Life is a lot harder other places, right?
So this message here tells you the difference between thinking for yourself and then all of a sudden getting into the mainstream media and those guys trying to control you and tell you what you have to think in a call.
Hey, you guys better say this.
Hey, you guys better say that.
Hey, you guys better say this.
And then, boom, it turns into Don Lemon having a political.
What are the likelihood he's going to get fired?
He's on suspension right now.
I don't think he's in the FLC.
There's no way.
Just as we came on the air here, this morning, it was announced that he will be reinstated later this week after he undergoes a special training.
And they didn't say what that was.
It's just special training.
And so it's called Hustlers University.
He has to enroll.
He has to get in there and make sure that he understands sexual dynamics.
He's going to get enrolled.
Respect to you, Donald Marshall.
Undergo formal training.
But by the way, we talked to the initial conversation we had on the episode was: is cancel culture over?
Is this a form of cancel culture that he can't even stay?
Like, should he have been suspended for this?
I don't think so.
Listen, I see cancels just insensitive.
We're just wrong.
Hold on.
If this was Fox, he would have been fired.
There's no take a time off.
No, he would have had a parade.
No.
No, if they said, if he said, if that, if he offended women like that on a conservative, he's gone.
The left 100% would have been Bonzo.
I think that's the exact opposite.
But my point is, I think if they would have said this on Fox, the women would have been like, yeah, for sure.
No.
I don't think so.
What I'm saying is the cancel culture.
You think Fox would have been more sympathetic to what he had to say?
They would have not liked what he said.
Are you kidding me?
The reaction of what a lot of the women.
First of all, what did Fox deal with just a few years ago with Megan Kelly?
Yeah, with Roger A. Bill O'Reilly.
No, what I'm saying.
My point being, it's not to cut you off bat, is the left is way more well, like you could, they look out for each other, bro.
The left takes care of their own.
I'm not going to say that either because CNN also fired the Chris Cuomo.
They fired, who's the other person they fired?
Brian Selter or whether it was.
Jeffrey 2 went through.
Oh, Jeffrey Twelve.
All I'm saying is today is a time where.
You know what they open it up to, though?
Guess what they open it up to?
If you say something like that on a podcast, what happens to you?
You keep continuing if you say something like that.
They're just opening it up for people.
By the way, if he made a fool out of himself, you can make a fool out of yourself on a podcast.
You can make a fool out of yourself on a YouTube show that you're on.
Many have, many will, many will continue.
It's part of what happens.
You're going to get caught.
Nobody's undefeated in the boxing ring except for who?
Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd Mayweather and Marciano, I think, was also undefeated.
I don't know if he lost or not.
I thought he was.
So for the most part, you're going to get caught.
Ali lost six times.
You're not going to get into a debate and be undefeated in debate.
Sometimes you're going to get caught and this time he got caught.
But as crazy as it sounds, if CNN wants to kind of go in the direction of recreating themselves, they have to show how they handle situations like this to allow a person to screw up and then come back versus, hey, we're still walking on excels here.
So I'm not telling you they should fire him or not fire him.
CNN is right now dealing with identity crisis.
People go through this.
Men go through it when they say we have a midlife crisis.
You know, they go by a motorcycle and get a tattoo on their neck.
This typically happens at 45 years old, right?
No, I'm telling you.
You think I'm kidding with you?
They get it.
Don't worry.
Girls go through a midlife crisis.
They do stuff and then they get a tattoo on their butt, like on their lower back.
Cram stamp.
Which is a different story.
Everybody goes through a different kind of midlife crisis.
Some people start doing steroids to be buffer, bigger, stronger.
We all have insecurities that we're trying to stay young forever.
This is not an abnormal thing.
We're all normal going through these things.
Here, these guys are Don's in an organization right now that's trying to recreate themselves.
And quite frankly, Don's in the middle right now saying, ah, shit, what do I do to make these guys happy?
You know, he's probably there in Miami saying, listen, babe, if they fire me, he's talking to his boyfriend.
If they fire me, we got to figure out what to do.
We got some money here, but maybe I go start a podcast.
FYI, transitioning from TV to podcast isn't as easy as they think it is.
We learned that with Chris Woman.
When you're on TV, they give you a script.
When you got a podcast, man, you better try to keep attention for a couple hours.
It ain't that easy to do so, right?
Ask me.
Well, he went off script here.
You should have read that script.
Well, can I just say one thing?
As someone who's never messed up on a podcast, I've never been called naive.
I've never been called an idiot.
I've never been called a soyboy.
I definitely have never had any pushback whatsoever.
There's zero negative comments out there about me.
Zero, amazing.
That I've never had an issue.
But it happened once.
Never happened.
Thanks, Tom.
It's actually 100%.
But I think it would be a very horrible disservice to cancel Don Lemon for this situation.
You screwed up, like by definition, you conflated what sexual market value is with market value.
CNN has an opportunity here to basically say, hey, we are not the arbiters of cancel culture.
You know, take a day off.
Go ahead.
We'll see you back.
Give a me a culprit when you get back on TV and learn from it.
And that's, I think, what the definition of cancel culture should not be is like everyone screws up.
People are right.
People are wrong.
There's different opinions.
There's all that.
That's the whole premise of America is they'd be able to have that debate.
And when you screw up, you're like, yo, my bad.
I'll do better.
And that's what I think he needs to do.
Final thoughts, you and me, on this before we move forward.
Is there a message you have for our friend Don Lamont?
Yeah, I think that's what I was writing in my book.
It was like, we have a right to be wrong.
We should have a culture of like mercy.
In North Korea, you make one mistake, you get executed.
In America, currently, you lose your job, livelihood, reputation, and dignity.
But eventually, if you keep pushing this direction, you can't end up like North Korea.
So now we're somewhere in the middle.
We can push backwards where we have a culture of mercy and let people make a mistake and correct it.
So yeah, I don't think he should ever get fired for this.
That's so stupid.
I mean, he's, no matter what, he has a talent, right?
He's a good presenter.
So, but he says, sorry, so you should come back.
I mean, he's very, man.
Like, I wonder when's the last time he watched himself from 10 years ago?
No way.
No way.
He's not watching him.
But, you know, like, I was watching a clip this morning.
I sent it to Mario.
I can't play because of music it plays in there.
It's an incredible speech that Robert Downey Jr. gives.
He's up there accepting an award and he says, I brought Mel Gibson here with me while I'm accepting this award.
He says, there's a reason why I brought Mel Gibson in.
When I was going through my mess, Mel called me and we were speaking.
And he says, listen, man, whatever you do, go find your faith.
But it's got to be your faith.
I don't care what it is, but go find your faith.
He says, I respected the fact that he told me to go find my faith.
And I did.
And he says, so then there's a movie that while nobody's accepting me, I don't have any money.
I don't know how to pay rent.
I have a hard time dropping alcohol.
I have a hard time dropping anything.
Mel gives me a role that he was supposed to take, but he gave it to me.
He called me, says, this is for you.
He says, that itself helped me so much because it allowed me to pay my bills during this time.
And I did that.
And then next thing you know, my career takes off.
And I told Mel, how can I pay it back to you?
And you know what Mel said?
When the next Robert Downey Jr. is going through this, do it for them again.
Okay, because somebody did it for me.
You don't hear these types of stories about Mel Gibson, right?
About people.
The point I'm trying to make is, even a Robert Downey Jr. had to go back and watch some of his old clips to say, dude, look how great you are and how great you can be.
You know, sometimes athletes go through, you got to watch old tape of 10 years ago, five years ago highlights.
I think Don Lemon's got to go watch that clip and say, dude, look at you.
You were on fire.
His most viral video this week, outside of this clip, is that clip.
That clip got 3.3 million views on Twitter.
If you go to it, look at that.
3.3 million views.
This was just posted.
Let's see when it was posted, by the way.
It was posted a few days ago.
It's got, I'm sorry, 8.6 million views.
It's what it's got.
Why do you think, Don, this has 8.6 million views?
No one's taking shots at you.
No one's saying anything to you.
No one's reacting to this video.
It's only content of you speaking.
And there's 9 million people that are interested in what you had to say 10 years ago.
You may want to play this and watch this while you're on vacation in Miami.
Anyways, so sometimes you got to go back and get that source of inspiration where the fire came from instead of, hey, let me just kind of go out there and do what I'm doing here.
So can we talk about what's going on with Russia and Ukraine and all the things that's going on?
Obviously, President Biden pays a surprise visit to Ukraine just, I think it was two days ago or maybe even yesterday, but I think it's yesterday.
He pays a visit.
President Biden arrives in Kiev, Ukraine in a surprise visit to meet the President Zelensky and to announce additional half a billion dollars in U.S. assistance ahead of one-year anniversary of Russia as a nation of the country.
The new aid package includes artillery ammunition, anti-armor systems, and air surveillance, radars, but no new advanced weapons.
Biden stated that this visit was to reaffirm our unwavering and unflagging commitment to Ukraine's democracy, sovereignty, and territorial integrity and to share that the U.S. will announce additional sanctions against elites and companies backing Russia's war machine.
Biden's visit to Ukraine comes at Russia as Russia is expected to ramp up its offensive once again.
And Ukraine officials warn of massive barrage of missiles that Russia may launch on February 24th.
Here's an interesting thing to be thinking about.
He did this on President's Day and never visited East Palestine.
Pete Butichic took him 10 days to even recognize the events in East Palestine.
Kamala hasn't gone.
They're not talking about the issues that's going on there.
$100 billion given to them.
All of this stuff going on.
The other day I did the math on how many total homeless people we have in America.
Check this out.
They say they want to end homelessness.
Okay.
Do you know the $100 billion that we gave to Ukraine?
Okay.
If homelessness in America is that big of an issue, you can clean it up.
There's 524 total homeless people in America.
Roughly a third of that is in California, okay?
524.
If you took that $100 billion, each homeless person could get $170,000 if you divide it up.
Now, you don't need to give it to them.
If we took that money and we created a place for them to go to, live, work, shelter, different things, and cleaned up those streets, what would happen to safety in those communities?
What would happen to those things?
Now, I'm not somebody that's endorsing us going and spending the next $100 billion for you because somebody's going to come down and say, well, well, now, would you support this now?
Would you support this now?
No.
What I'm saying to you is the constant spending of the money that we have, what if we take that while we have the issues here, we're going to Kiev.
While people in East Palestine are wondering what's going on with the water, you're going over there.
So anyway, so while that's taking place, China and Russia is getting close at the same time.
China's coming out and saying we're great allies.
And then simultaneously, while this is going on, for the first time since the 70s, Russia started loading nuclear missiles on ships.
First time since the 70s, while this is going on, okay?
And then Zelensky comes out and says, if China allies itself with Russia, there will be world war.
And I do think that China is aware of that.
So having said that, you being from that part of the world, what are your thoughts on what's going on and how risky it is what we're doing if we could potentially create a World War III?
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I think it's no-brainer.
Like, who suffers from the war?
Like, the people, you know, the women, people, and like elders, they suffer the most.
And I think not only that, actually, I live in New York City.
I fled Chicago because the day we had our first interview, I got robbed by black women.
And it's okay.
Anybody can be thiefed.
She was punching me and took my wallet away in from my son.
In Chicago.
Yes, that afternoon, after the thing, I went.
But the thing is, people on the street circle around me that I'm a racist that was trying to call the cops on these TIFFs.
Yeah.
So people are crazy in Chicago.
They just lost common sense.
They're never going to defend anybody because of my skin color.
I was not having a black skin color, right?
And then it was so, I mean, I charged her to she was prison.
And then apparently there's a huge revenge crime.
They come out, they bring a gun, they shoot you.
And I'm a public person, they know where I am.
So I had to flee to Chicago and come to New York.
I go with my son, take a subway, and it is beyond dangerous.
The first thing that this Korean women telling me, don't go near the trucks, because people, especially black people, just push Asian people.
This is in New York?
Imagine from Chicago, New York.
Did you think it was safer in New York?
It's not.
But what shocked me was on every corner in downtown Chicago, in New York, they sell like drugs in the purple, like a looking like candy.
And my son thinks it's a lollipop they are selling.
So he just keeps asking me to buy the lollipop for him.
So like the southern border is open.
I mean, I'm not safe living in America.
It's so funny.
Like I was looking for security and safety and freedom.
Now I didn't get the security and safety in America.
So our country is like this much a mess.
And we are defending some other people's security.
And like, what about American security?
I'm American.
My son is American.
And I fear, I'm like, I'm literally risking my life every day taking that subway.
And we have to take the subway.
Nobody can afford to have a bodyguard and take a driver take you around.
And that's why I'm so like baffled.
What is this?
So how much longer are you planning on staying in New York?
I can't because of custody of my son.
I got you.
We have to be in the same city.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, have you spoken to him about leaving New York?
Well, he's thinking, well, it's safer than Chicago at least.
It's like a little bit more safer than Chicago.
So it's a relative thing.
You know, you don't get shot and bullets went through you as much as Chicago.
So.
You want to know something, Pat?
You guys want to know why I think all this is happening?
Why the border's open?
Why China's flying balloons?
Why everything's going to shit while Russia's threatening, getting out of the Star Treaty, and doing all that stuff?
It's because we have right now a weak leader.
And I'm going to make my point.
You guys ever watch National Geographic, Tom?
And you see a lion who's technically the king of the jungle, but he either gone to a fight and he's limping and you see that he's weak.
You know what the jackals and the hyenas and all they all start to look and they're like, oh shit, the king is hurt.
So they start to bite at his leg and once they realize, okay, he doesn't have any more, everybody attacks.
Right now, America is that injured lion.
Russia's doing shit that they've never done since how long, Pat?
China's literally flying fucking balloons over our nuclear missile bases that I was stationed in.
The border's wide open.
China's sending fentanyl to kill our youth and get money back from us.
We are such in a weird position right now.
Shit that people haven't done since the 70s.
It doesn't look good.
And I'm genuinely, for the first time, I'm like, if something, I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if something did pop off where somebody's like, oh shit, somebody, somebody launched something that they weren't supposed to launch and all health breaks.
Because no matter what you think, I know for a fact working at a nuclear missile base, if one person launches one, it's over because everybody's going to panic.
Oh shit, can you imagine that?
Somebody launched a nuke.
It's over.
It's over.
And I feel like we're getting close to that point because those people with power, Putin feels like he's getting surrounded, bro.
And that's not good.
It's not a good thing.
Tom.
I think whenever there's a Vinny's right about the vacuum of leadership, and I think we have a weak leader in America right now.
And I think that we are still the greatest country in the world and we can solve our problems.
We can come together as a diverse people and get that done.
But it needs strong leadership.
And that leadership is not just at the top.
The leadership calls on all of us to step up, starting with our schools.
I feel incredibly strong about education and incredibly strong about providing safe, balanced education and weak leadership at the top, weak leadership in the home, weak leadership at your school.
You make a great point.
And there's a vacuum out here that's just screaming.
Tom, let me ask a question, though.
Here's a question.
The question we started off with is Russia, you know, Biden being in Ukraine, not going to East Palestine, concerns of Russia putting their weapons on the ships, seeing the fact that China is uniting with Putin and saying, hey, we will sell you lethal weapons for the first time.
Not like regular weapons, lethal weapons.
All of these things are, you know, going in the direction of could this lead to an all-out war?
Are we there or are we not there yet?
Sorry about that.
I was reacting.
I thought you were asking me about my response to the story.
To the original question going back here, I think what is happening right now is the West, and let's call it the East, are fighting a proxy World War III in Ukraine.
And you have to remember, let's take a look at the weapons that are being given.
Have you noticed, but we will never give them those tanks.
We'll give them some of this.
We'll give them money for MMS.
We'll give them money for small arms.
We'll get money for grenade launchers.
We'll get money for, but we won't give them stingers.
Okay, hell, give them stingers.
If you notice that the level of weapons, and they keep making a point of it in each one of the articles, is, but they're giving them lethal now, but we're not going to give them these, but we're going to give them those.
It's escalating.
And I feel like it's a proxy world war that's being fought in the Ukraine as both sides are providing and to a certain degree testing weapon systems that they're giving to Ukrainians and giving to Russia.
China's giving stuff to Russia and the West is giving stuff to Ukraine.
Remember, we weren't going to give them any planes at all.
And then they said, Poland, give us your NATO planes.
Please, please.
Give us the better planes that we can have.
And Poland said, well, maybe it will, maybe I won't.
I think we're fighting a proxy war and it's going one step at a time, a drip at a time on the advanced weapons.
And Pat, where's the outrage?
The president of the United States, on President's Day, mind you, flew to Ukraine, gave them another $500 million.
I don't think people, people just dolled those numbers around.
$500 million, okay?
East Palestine, there's a freaking, dude, fish are dying, dogs are dying, people can't drink the water.
You know what America is right now?
Imagine having like, you know, your dad's sick at the house, Pat, and he's, he's, God forbid, dying of cancer.
You have the means to help him, but we're like, you know what?
I'm going to donate to like a charity that's, are you, where's the outrage?
What the fuck is, I'm sorry for my language.
What is, what is going on?
Like, I don't get it.
I don't understand.
How much money collectively have we given to Ukraine?
$100.
$100 billion.
$100 billion.
What?
100 billion.
That doesn't make...
Remember we had that talk, Adam, when What's-Her-Name was here?
Remember we had that talk, Adam, when What's-Her-Name was here.
It's getting, it's not going to be a trillion.
What was she saying?
Katie Hopkins, yeah.
She said it was $100 trillion.
Yeah.
Think about this.
$100 billion.
And I don't give a damn.
I feel bad for what's going on over there.
I don't care about Ukraine.
I care about us.
Why is putting America first such a bad thing?
Why can't we come first?
In Palestine, my thought about this is I don't understand why it's being ignored.
What is on those trains and who owns those trains that is able to drop the dime on the media and our political leaders so that everybody ignores it?
I'm actually confused.
I'm not confused.
I think somebody has dropped the dime and is suppressing the whole story.
But how effectively did they, if it wasn't for Twitter, America wouldn't know?
And Pat, we talked about this before I walked in here.
How crazy is this?
Joey, there's a documentary last year, December, called White Noise that the movie is set in 1984, the exact trail derailment with toxic chemicals in East Palestine.
If we're not living in the Matrix, that's a fact that that happened in this movie last year in the 70s.
Wait, this is what you were talking about.
I told you before we watched it.
Zoom in a little bit so we can see the stories.
This was a movie in 1984 set, and in the movie, there's a train derailment in East Palestine and a dumped chemical thing.
If that is not insane, like I don't know what is.
An airborne toxic event.
I'm sorry.
What are the odds?
Is that crazy?
So go back to this.
Go back to this.
So are we at a point?
So Putin doesn't want NATO to keep getting stronger.
NATO keeps acting like Ukraine is part of NATO.
U.S., and by the way, this is not a Democratic thing.
Mitch McConnell said the most important thing we can do right now is support Ukraine.
So it's not like it's a Democrat.
McConnell is supporting this.
There's a lot of people that are not supporting this.
Jimmy Dore, they had a rally this Sunday in what do you call it, DC.
And there was a bunch of people there.
Tulsi Gabbard's there.
You know how DeSantis feels about this, how Trump feels about this.
A lot of people are against constantly sending resources to these guys.
But are we at the tipping point where all of a sudden, boom?
Because the way this is going to go is the moment the first person goes, like you said earlier, it's go time.
It's a rap.
There's no more looking back and taking your time with it.
Nope.
What do you think?
Yeah, I think that's why it's so scary.
You know, it's a, I think it's a word, something, some like a distant memory for Americans currently.
So they don't really understand how serious this thing is we are playing with right now.
There's actual possibility of war, World War III, with a nuclear power country, we are somehow think it's not possible.
And so, like, let our guard down.
And also, it's like, our country's a mess.
It's not really a strong position.
Everything's working.
The country is a complete mess.
China is, I mean, their ambition is destroying America.
North Korea's only goal is destroying America.
know what he runs is is it death upon america yeah it's just but But we're on the same.
Literally, that's what they say.
Bad OmniCon.
Death upon America.
So I'm pretty clear.
Their only purpose in their life is destroying America.
And they are supporting Russia right now.
So what are we doing?
I think that's so, I'm raising a chart.
Like, I don't know what kind of future he's going to have, but I think this is where people in America, because they never experienced any difficulty in life.
They cannot fathom that how easily this peace can go away.
And it's not even democratically chosen.
Like, who decides that we can give this much money to Ukraine?
Like, who decides that?
Isn't this like a democracy?
I don't remember voting for that bill.
Me neither.
It's like, I thought this was democracy.
Who chose that it was okay to send that much money?
Well, there's, if I may, by the way, we're about to reach the one-year anniversary of the war in Ukraine.
So that's, I think, part of the reason that he went over there on President's Day or President's Day weekend.
The big guy went over there.
I think regarding the amount of money that's being spent, that's an entirely okay conversation to have.
Congress has approved this budget.
It's foreign affairs.
It's part of the entire budget.
As you know, Tom, the majority of our GDP of our budget goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.
That's where the vast majority goes.
And then beyond that, it goes to our defense.
And then beyond that, what Pat touched on the other day was the freaking interest we have to pay on the amount of debt that we have.
So I think it is incumbent on cities, first and foremost, Chicago, LA, New York, to clean up their own mess.
Okay, it's not the federal government's job to clean up homelessness.
I actually don't think that homelessness is something that we can fix.
I think there's always going to be people who are fucked up, and there's always going to be homelessness in every country, regardless.
But back to Ukraine.
I think two things can be true at once.
I think, and I stand steadfast with this.
Charlie Kirk said it the other day.
It is just entirely immoral, not the right thing to do for a country to invade a sovereign country and invade their sovereignty.
You just can't do that.
That's just not anything that we stand for in America.
We believe in democracy.
We believe in borders.
We don't play that game.
And that's part of the reason that we're backing Ukraine.
At the same time, we can question, dude, how much freaking money are we spending over here?
How much longer are we going to do this?
If we learned anything in Afghanistan, it's like, we don't want to be in fucking wars that just never end.
How long is this going to go?
And it's the quote-unquote technical one-year anniversary of the invasion, but they've been doing this thing since 2014 in Crimea.
So this is an ongoing thing.
Is this going to turn into another Afghanistan?
I hope not.
And then just breaking news right now is on Wall Street Journal.
Xi, Chairman Xi of China, is planning to visit Moscow today or this week.
And this is right after Putin, who has now officially suspended the nuclear arms treaty with the United States of America.
So these are real life things.
Tom touched on this proxy war.
This is escalating to a point where we in America, for the first few months, Ukraine, support Ukraine.
Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine anymore.
Like, just live your life.
At this point, the war is escalating.
People are dying.
I think we got a couple hundred thousand people have died.
There's something called diplomacy.
We need to figure out who in America is going to be the diplomat to basically provide diplomacy so we can end this freaking war.
Nobody wants this.
And great points.
I mean, I don't think it's going to end anytime soon.
She's going to go visit Russia, which is, and she's probably going to bring the spy balloon info and tell them all the shit that.
I'm being serious.
Show them everything.
And then, Adam, Pat, you know what the start treaty that he's saying he's not going to go in?
I think we have, I think it's 1,550 between us and Russia we can have, or it might be individual ICBMs that have the re-entry system.
You know what I mean?
That can actually come in and land and hit where they want.
He's backing out of that.
So basically, that's Russia saying we could put these systems on whatever the hell we want because, bro, Russia is the, I think we're one and Russia's number two, right, Pat?
For nuclear arsenal and threat for them to say, listen, we're backing out of this because we want to be able to put more, not just the warheads, the re-entry system, which tells it where it could sit and where it could land.
And that's, dude, I'm telling you right now, that is not a good team to be teaming up as those two, bro.
I'm telling you, it's not going to be good.
Oh, my God.
Well, one final point.
We have the luxury in America to sit here on the other side of the world and genuinely rest easy at night.
If you're in Europe, because one thing I'll continue to remind you is the entire EU supports this war.
I know.
The entire EU.
So if you're Germany, if you're Poland, if you're on that NATO border, you're the ones who literally would be facing nuclear death, okay?
So if they're still behind this, as America, are we taking their cues from them or are they taking our cues from us?
Or is it a symbiotic relationship?
I don't know.
But if they're resting easy at night, I think we can too.
I mean, I don't know.
But what do we want out of this war?
Like, what do we want?
Do we want the putty to die?
Like, we want to destroy, like, what is our goal of keep going this past?
I think you nailed it on the head, Yoni.
What is the goal?
Yeah.
We've set the precedent.
Hey, we don't stand for this.
We've entered this war.
I think you're absolutely.
What's the point now?
And I think we need to read into basically what Biden is saying: that he's reaffirming our relationship with Ukraine, and we're not stopping.
And I would like to know what the ideal outcome is for doing all this.
What else would it be?
Maybe, Pat, they have a shitload of dirt on his ass because we already know.
I'm just saying, hold on.
I'm just weighing.
I'm giving you a bunch of options.
And you know what Zelensky's saying?
Hey, bro, we got all that shit on the laptop.
We got all of it.
Just keep giving us.
I'm just saying, could that be a little bit of a Biden's war?
Congress has approved that.
Yeah, but hold on.
But Biden, hold on.
Biden basically gave Russia the.
Remember when he said, you guys could do a little minor incursion.
It won't really.
Biden gave them the okay to just come on in, bro.
Biden from the beginning was like, come on in.
That's on record.
Biden gave to Russia.
He said, yeah, we won't get that mad if they do a minor incursion in Ukraine.
He said that shit live.
He basically gave them the green light to come in.
That's your point.
My point is, Biden is compromised.
So for somebody to be giving a country that much freaking money, just open wallet all the time and going to visit and kiss this guy's ass, there has to be other elements involved.
I'm saying it's not just one thing, but you made a great point.
Why?
Could somebody answer me why?
Yeah, I think what you're going to see in Russia will be Russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it does.
If it's one thing, like a minor incursion, and then we end up having to fight about what to do and not do.
Like, dude, that's giving somebody a green light.
Go, go.
You could drop a couple bombs.
Just don't really go to war.
So how do you say that?
Good point you're making there, Benny.
Thanks.
Listen, we're going to learn what's going to happen with this.
With the $100 billion, the point wasn't to fix homelessness.
That's a mindset issue that we're having.
There's a reason why it keeps happening in LA.
To me, it's that's policies is the real issue.
It's the example to say, Democrats, if you claim you care about homeless people as much as you do, this is what you could have done with the money given to Ukraine.
Your cause, your need, your money could have helped America, but it went elsewhere.
That was the point with the homeless stuff that we're talking about.
Anyway, so let's talk about this other thing.
So, capitalism.
There's this guy out there, I don't know if you guys know or not.
His name is Bernie Sanders.
Bernie's he was on this show called Face of Nation, okay?
And she face the nation and she asks a very simple question of him.
He's having an event right now that's $95 that's being sold on Ticketmaster.
Ticketmaster that just got a bunch of heat.
So, credit to her for asking the question of Bernie.
And look how uncomfortable it gets very quickly.
Promote this book.
It's okay to be angry about capitalism.
And you're here talking about it.
I understand we're not the bad guys you're describing in the book when it comes to the media.
But tickets for your tour apparently are selling for $95 on Ticketmaster, which is accused of anti-competitive behavior.
You know that some of your Democrats are criticizing them.
Aren't you benefiting yourself from this system?
First of all, those decisions are made totally by the publisher and the bookseller.
I think that's where you're at.
I am just a humble senator with no point.
Go back a little bit.
Go back a little bit.
Some tickets.
Go back.
We're going on tour to promote this book.
It's okay to be angry about capitalism.
And you're here talking about it.
I understand we're not the bad guys you're describing in the book when it comes to the media.
But tickets for your tour apparently are selling for $95 on Ticketmaster, which is accused of anti-competitive behavior.
You know that some of your Democrats are criticizing them.
Aren't you benefiting yourself from this system that you're trying to dismantle?
First of all, those decisions are made totally by the publisher and the bookseller.
I think it's one case where in one place here in Washington politics and pros and independent bookstore charging some tickets, most of them, I think, $40, $50, and you get a book as well.
So if you want to come, you're going to have to pay $40 or throw on the book for free.
You pay $40.
But I don't make a nickel out of these things.
Oh, but you're forced to write Ticketmaster?
Oh, no, particularly, but that's again nothing to do with it.
That is, if you wrote a book, it would probably be the same process.
First of all, just so you know, I have a you know, I've been through this with Simon Schuster, and now we're going through with Penguin.
You get to say what you want to participate in and what you don't want to participate in.
Do they force you to go places like your book that's coming out?
Did they force you and tell you, you better go sell tickets at Ticketmaster or else you're fired?
Did they tell you something like that?
And your book is a bestseller.
It's not like your book sold a thousand copies.
Your book was a New York Times bestseller.
And the next one that's coming up, right, that's a new one that's coming up.
It just came out.
Right, the new one that just came out.
They don't force you to do those things.
They are very grateful that I want to do interviews.
Like, they don't have any authority.
You have to do this.
That's right.
Like, it's just really all up to me.
So if he doesn't want to do it, he could always have done it.
Bernie secretly loves capitalism.
Here's what's so crazy about it.
Watch this.
He bashes capitalism, writes a book on capitalism, while a capitalistic company prints it, ships it, publishes it, sells it on Amazon, promotes it on social media, and goes talks about all major media companies, platform, all started by capitalism, but capitalism sucks.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's hypocrisy.
Yeah, it's like it's like Bretta Thunberg, the climate activist lover, and she's there with her book.
She sold, you know, how many thousands of trees got killed and chopped down?
I think it's crazy.
This is her guy that talks about free education.
But if you want to get educated about what I think, I'm going to charge you comedy.
Here's what I think is happening with Bernie.
He's too far deep.
When he had no money, when he started off as a senator or congressman or mayor of whatever Vermont, that story was fine.
It's okay.
Hey, socialism, democratic socialism, it's all good.
Now that he's 80-something years old, he's made his millions, by the way, which is fine.
By the time you're fucking 80, you should have earned a million.
If you just contribute to your 401k and make 150 grand a year, that's normal.
But now that he's reached this worldwide international, certainly national fame, and books are being sold of it, and he's speaking, and it's like this, his popularity is at a grand scale.
I'm assuming he's grappling with the money and the fame and the success and the notoriety versus no, capitalism was bad.
I can't control it.
It's like, yeah, well, which one is it, Bernie?
You got to pick a path.
Like, he owns property.
It was you and Bernie.
Oh, it's you and Bernie.
What were you saying, Yomi?
No, I mean, it's interesting because he owns a multiple property.
The idea of not capitalists not owning anything.
So AOC and he should be the first one denouncing all their properties, not owning anything.
Sell it all.
Tom actually has a very intimate story with Bernie.
I don't know if you want to tell the whole story, but intimate, Tom?
No, he really doesn't.
He's like upstairs.
No, watch this.
It's actually pretty funny.
So, a colleague and I are in Vermont visiting a company in our industry, the industry that I was working in at the time.
And as I'm going through Metal Detector in the airport, there's this corner of my, there's kind of a silver-haired gentleman.
I look, it's Bernie.
He's right behind me.
We walk through Metal Detector yet.
And I kind of bumped shoulders with him over getting the bags off.
And I said, oh, hello, Senator.
Hello, how are you?
And we walk a few steps, and my colleague says, Hey, I'm going to step to the men's room real quick.
And Bernie goes in there.
So I'm just waiting for my friend to come out.
And he comes out and he says, I just said hi to Bernie Sanders.
Where?
While we were both standing there in the bathroom.
Oh, where you were both relieving ourselves.
He says, he said hello, and then he farted incredibly loud.
Wow.
And I said, oh, so, you know, sort of passing legislation.
And he walked out.
And so my colleagues go, Wow, that's a forever story.
I said, Yeah, you forever can stay at the Burlington, Vermont Airport.
Did he say, Excuse me?
He said, You know, I don't think he did.
Bernie, that's disgusting.
But listen, when you hear stories like this, and a guy is again, he's human.
This is the great part about capitalism.
Sometimes you don't even have to debate the other person.
You just bring them, you let them talk, and then eventually, oh, there's a leak.
Oh, there's a leak.
Oh, there's a leak.
It's like, go ahead, tell us why you believe in socialism.
Tell us why you believe in communism.
Bingo, that doesn't work.
You're using a capitalistic platform to do what you're doing here.
Were you going to say something?
In this case, in the middle of a leak, there was a fart.
So it's like there really was.
I don't think you can beat BizDog story.
You can beat that last time.
So now let's go to the next story, which is: should we go, let's do Disney, Tom?
I think you got something to say about Disney.
Disney, man.
And Disney layoffs.
What page is that?
10?
Is it a page 10 story or is it a bit?
You don't need those.
No, you don't need those.
Return to office plan may cause long-term harm.
Workers say thousands of Disney employees have a signed petition that is pushing back on a company's return to office plan, arguing that the four-day workweek requirement will unintended consequence will have unintended consequences for the company.
The petition has garnered over 2,300 signatures from employees across Mickey Mouse's businesses.
The workers claim that the mandate is likely to have unintended consequences.
Okay, go ahead, Tom.
What are your thoughts on this here with what Disney's doing?
Well, first of all, this is a group of employees that are coming out protesting the four-day work week.
Four days.
And remember, Iger said two things.
We're a creative company, come together to discuss creative ideas and come together for mentorship and be identified as potential for management.
This is not Iger telling everybody you will be in the office 60 hours, five days.
Remember this?
This goes back exactly a month ago.
Every seems pretty reasonable.
But now you've got 2,300 Disney people that say, no, no, that's even that's too much.
We are hard to replace talent and here it comes, represent vulnerable communities.
That was what they said.
So this happens about two days ago, to be exact.
Yesterday, Wall Street guidance is given, and Disney says, Well, you need to brace yourself because I think there will be actually 5,000 additional workers laid off.
Wow.
That's what they said yesterday.
So can I be Bob Iger?
Will you be head of HR?
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, Vinny.
Yeah, Bob here.
Listen, I may have to lay off 5,000 more people.
Okay.
We got to pick 5,000 more people to lay off.
I got a question for you.
Yeah, do you have that petition handy?
I think I have it right here.
I got it right here.
All right.
Perfect.
All right.
Put them on the list.
Tell all those people that don't want to come to work that they can work from home for somebody else.
Got you.
Have a nice day.
Thank you.
I think this is so ironic that people are coming forward when I thought that Iger made a very measured, good point about coming back to work on a four-day plan.
Some of you are in traffic in Burbank, California.
It's just four days.
And then they go there, and then Disney behind the scenes is looking for other expenses.
And so the unintended consequences, a bunch of people going, oh man, I signed that thing.
Yeah.
Wow.
Vinny.
No, I just, I just felt, I just felt really cool.
Like, I had like an HR job.
I felt like I was in charge of something.
You looked like an HR job.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
Can I talk to you for a second?
Shout out to my office.
Yeah.
I actually think that these conversations are actually becoming more and more important.
The overarching conversation is this concept of work-life balance.
And I think that Disney is just sort of in the crosshairs of a greater conversation.
This isn't the first time we've discussed four-day work weeks.
Certain countries, I think, I believe have started to implement this, Portugal being one, versus what you see, for instance, like in countries like Japan, you see people that are so burnt out because their entire life is just spent working that it's acceptable to just sleep in the streets or they have like areas we can sleep.
So I'm actually totally okay with whether it's countries, whether it's municipalities, whether it's corporations completely having this dialogue.
This, you know, do you live to work or do you work to live?
This is a conversation I think is okay.
You know, this isn't like nonsensical BS.
These are people's lives and their livelihood.
And I think these conversations are totally acceptable.
Any thoughts?
I mean, I come from Columbus North Korea.
There's no weekends, right?
We are revolutionaries.
We have to work every single hour from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m.
So even your child, five years old, we all have to be in the force of labor.
I just don't know.
Like, you go to work, there's AC, there's an indoor bathroom, there's a clean water.
What's the complaint?
You get paid for it.
So there's no work-life balance in North Korea.
What's the, I mean, we don't know the word, but I think it's just so weird.
Like, Omer is so soft.
People are so lazy.
Can I ask you an actual complaint?
I think what she's saying: if Bob Iger wants people to work seven days a week, move your headquarters to North Korea.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, you're in.
I think Yomi, you might be the perfect person to ask this question because we covered this the other day on the podcast where by generation the level of pride and patriotism in America has decreased.
So baby boomers was in the 70s something percentile.
Gen Xers were in the 60s or 50s.
Millennials were in the 40s.
And Gen Z, 16%, proud to be America.
You're from freaking North Korea.
I mean, the bottom of the barrel as far as human rights go.
How good do we have it here in America based on your experience all over the world?
I mean, this is a pure miracle.
I think.
I went to school at Columbia with the Jennifer Gen Z. Their dream is destroying America.
Right.
And bring the communist revolution into this country.
This is Colombia.
This is Colombia.
Not Colombia.
Colombia, Pablo Escobar.
This is Colombia.
University of New York.
Columbia.
Let me pronounce it correctly.
I mean, they say Manhattan.
With our friend Gad Saad basically was talking about the wokeism that's got.
So go ahead.
Right.
So I think this is what it shocks me.
Capitalism is so ethical, so compassionate that they created the term human rights.
I mean, colonist North, we don't even know that that's a concept.
Like when I heard about animal rights in South Korea, I was like, what do you mean by puppy rights?
I did not know I had a right just to get to the right.
We got so much human rights here that we got animal rights.
That's pretty fast.
How you like me now?
Yeah, so I don't know why would you want to tear down this ethical, most amazing system.
You use the word soft.
We are so soft.
Yeah.
Explain that.
Go further on why you think we are so soft here.
It's because we have it so good here.
Yeah, I mean, they complain about having too much food.
Like, they complain about not having actual problem.
They have to make a problem out of nowhere.
Like, out of like just literally thin air, they create injustice.
Like, their injustice, like, there's a 10,000 pronouns and you cannot pronounce them.
You cannot remember, and now you're a bigot.
That's their injustice.
What were the pronouns that you were using in North Korea?
I, we.
We.
We just had we.
Just we.
Yeah, it's just a revolutionaries.
There's not even an I. You couldn't pick a he, she, him, they, why, we, why?
It's just we.
Yummy, that's the one.
Me, the revolutionaries.
That's a really good question.
I don't, my brain went there.
What, what is their, what is the policy on homosexuality?
And, you know, like, what, because, I mean, there's obviously gay people there.
How does, how does the supreme leader and all them, how do they, how do they do that?
Are people trans?
I don't have, I have no idea what it's like over there.
So I think that's where North Korea is so different.
They denies love between people.
They did not give us a vocabulary.
So my mother never told me that she loved me.
So we don't have the word for love.
We don't have the world for human rights.
And we don't have the word for gay.
So that means you cannot even know what that is.
Oh my gosh.
So if you guys see somebody dancing, you're like, okay, that guy is not one of us.
Like, he's weird.
Is that what their mindset is?
Yeah, you're not allowed to dance.
You can't even dance.
You're not allowed to sing other than the propecathan song.
Oh, my.
You go to prison if you move your body freely.
Can you imagine being in jailpad?
Like, what are you in here for?
I moonwalked, and now I'm doing 20.
And it's holy.
Also, you're not allowed to make love to your wife standing up because it could lead to dancing.
Yeah, so that's true.
And the last question, too, so you know, when people talk, when you talk about the labor camps, what is like a day for somebody that's in a labor camp?
Like, what, is it just wake up, eat, and this all day till you're till you're passing out?
What's what's what are the people people say that's like one of the worst experiences to be in?
When you're sent to concentration camp, the first thing you cannot do is why am I here?
Can't even question why.
Yeah, if you do, you get executed.
Oh my gosh.
So they just exist three-generation punishment.
So you don't even know who messed up in your three-generation family that I ended up here.
So you just show up to the prison camp.
First thing you learn is you never ask why you're there.
And you learn you never look at the guard's eyes because you are not a human being anymore.
You are the sub human.
So you cannot look at their eyes.
And they rape women constantly.
They don't last more than three months.
They let them clean those nuclear debris.
Oh, my nuclear debris and they're getting raped.
And they do the biochemical testing on these inmates like the Nazis did, putting the gas chamber and testing on this biochemical weapons on this kid.
And you're saying, so somebody in your three-generational family could have done something way down.
You don't even know what the hell.
And they just grab you and they put you in the forest.
Yeah, or like sad few decades before, and it came out now.
Their grandpa one day may be drinking with friends, like in the 40s, before anything happened.
And one day, maybe I'm not sure so sure about communism.
And that came out.
Somebody later reported, remember the conversation in the 80s goes to police and sad.
I remember he said in the 40s.
Now you end him in a prison camp.
Can you imagine that?
One more question regarding capitalism, communism.
If there's a greater case example of communism versus capitalism, it is exactly what happened in Korea versus North Korea and South Korea.
If you look at South Korea, who basically during the Korean War aligned themselves with the USA in the 50s and, you know, what is it, the 38th parallel?
And then North Korea aligned themselves with the Soviet Union.
And China.
And China.
And if you look at South Korea, they are almost top 10 in GDP in the world.
I think they're number 10 or 11 right now.
Versus you have North Korea.
They're not even on the spectrum.
So what have you experienced?
Just you've been to South Korea, I assume?
Yeah, of course.
I lived just before.
So you live there.
So the benefits of capitalism and democracy and everything that kind of accompanies that in South Korea versus the hellhole that is North Korea.
There's no greater case example if you would expound upon that.
Yeah, I think that's it's nothing about your genetics or your culture or anything, tradition.
It's all about freedom or communism, tyranny, right?
When we let the individuals be free and they innovate, they create wealth and we can achieve like miracles.
And look at North Korea, the same exact potential.
We create like living hell.
Yeah.
So young me, can you go?
There's no way.
Can you, when's the last time you visited South Korea?
And is there any like, can you go there?
And if you do go there, what is that situation?
The intelligence don't like me coming back because I'm on the killing list of Kim Jong-un.
It's embarrassing for them if I get assassinated in South Korea.
Wow.
And I'm pretty sure they have people.
They're just waiting for somebody like you.
And what's the population of just Korea as a whole?
So North Korea, they don't even know the population because so many of them dying of starvation.
So they say 24 million, but more realistically, something 21 million.
The population hasn't grown.
But South Korea now is 50 million people almost.
Okay, so you're saying, so what is it?
In North, you said, about 30?
21.
21?
And so you're of the 290.
I have an idea.
I have an idea.
29.
Here's what I want you to do.
I want you to go visit South Korea.
Enjoy your time.
Just spend one week.
Okay.
And then I want you to sneak into North Korea.
I could do that.
And then I report from there.
And you want us to give us the differences between the two.
I get 100%.
Yeah.
Okay.
Your ticket is booked.
I want you out there.
You just got to let me know the ins and outs.
She has to help me out a little bit.
You can, again, there's no airport.
Oh, so I'm finished.
I can't even get it.
Yeah, you get it.
Rob, go ahead, Rob.
Enjoy.
This is a satellite map of Korea at night.
Look at North Korea.
Oh, the lights.
It's just dark.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
If that isn't capitalism, innovation, free motion enterprise.
I was watching.
I'm speaking at an event last week in Vegas, Palau's event.
And one of the speakers was a stress speaker.
He's talking about there's good stress, there's bad stress, you know, all this depression, anxiety, all this stuff.
And I showed him a video.
I said, I saw a video from 50 Cent, and it was the most powerful point he made.
50 Cent said, being depressed is a luxury.
If you're depressed, it's because you can afford to be depressed.
He says, go explain it to the husband that's got three kids, working two jobs.
He doesn't have any time to be depressed.
He's working seven days a week.
Any of these guys that say they're depressed, this is 50 cents.
You can afford it.
It's a luxury because if your back was against the wall, you would not have the luxury of being depressed.
It's a completely different perspective.
So sometimes depression is caused for people who have way, way too much time on their hands because they're not being productive.
Here you are, somebody that just came to America who escaped, gotten at an age that most of us have a hard time letting our kids be outside by themselves at that age, let alone escape a country as a girl and find a way to come out here.
You know, the first speech you gave, the one that was publicized, and it was, how many views did that thing get?
Like 80 million views, 70 million views?
No, it's almost a billion.
Her first speech, when her story was told worldwide, where was that at, that first speech that yourelaw?
In Ireland, 1 billion views.
I don't know if you've seen this or not.
When she's younger, telling the story, super.
She's shaking, talking, emotional.
Obviously, at this point, this is how many years since that speech?
How many years ago was it when you gave that speech?
Eight years.
Eight years from giving that speech to where she's at today.
This is it.
Yeah, this was it.
When this message was given eight years ago to where she's at right now.
Oh, yeah.
One young world.
Oh, my.
Yeah, pause the audio.
There you go.
Yeah, the audio is the one that we don't want to hear.
If you can just go to see what she looked like when she's telling the story, right there.
That's her.
Telling the story.
A billion views later, right there.
Wow.
Yeomi Park to now here coming out with her book, her second book, to share the story of what happened on how more Americans can become grateful and realize how lucky you are to be living in the greatest country in the world.
Yeomi, thank you for your bravery.
Thank you for willing to share your story.
I'm sure it's not the most exciting thing you want to do where you go up there and say, let me tell my story again for the 100th time over and over and over again.
But sometimes it takes somebody like you to tell that story for people to realize how lucky they are to be living in a place like this.
So if you haven't ordered a book yet, just came out a week ago, While Time Remains, a North Korean Defector Search for Freedom in America.
Rob, let's put the link below in chat and description for people to go out there and get it.
Yon Mi, are you also right now creating content?
If the audience wanted to find you, where would be the best place for them to find you?
First of all, I want to say my book is competing with the Prince Harry.
Oh, really?
Really?
I love that.
I mean, they have a lot of struggles going on.
They're loving so hard.
That's so hard.
That's challenging.
That is funny.
Prince Harry's life.
Yeah, so sorry, but they've gone through a lot way more than you.
The true victims of our age.
Yeah.
Just getting on the bus.
You know, South Park made a video about making fun of them and Megan got offended.
Oh, really?
Megan got offended saying this is not funny.
You know, offended about them making fun of their lives.
Anyways, we'll put all the information for people to be able to find you as well.
Go get her book.
We're at the end of it.
We're going to go have lunch with you here in a moment.
This is Thursday.
This Thursday.
Thursday we got.
We got the live podcast.
Live podcast, baby.
Can't wait for it.
We're two days away for the live podcast.
We'll see you guys.
For those who'll be here, you'll be the first to celebrate the podcast at the new studio with the cigar lounge.
