PBD Podcast Episode 237. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Jimmy Dore, Adam Sosnick and Vincent Oshana. Protect and secure your retirement savings now with this complimentary precious metals guide. Go to http://goldco.com/pbd 855-594-2758. James Patrick Anthony Dore is an American stand-up comedian, conspiracy theorist, political commentator, podcaster, and YouTube personality.
0:00 - Start
1:32 - Jimmy Door on meeting George Clooney and William Shatner
5:08 - Jimmy Door tells the home team about his dad
24:44 - Russian and Ukraine war explained
33:19 - Jimmy Dore on how to change the establishment
44:24 - Is Trump the only person to go against the establishment
1.05.42 - Are unions good for workers or a part of the problem
1.11.49 - Reaction to Chelsea Handler promoting childless lifestyle
1.23.24 - Reaction to Damar Hamlin not wanting to answer heart failure question
1.36.58 - Reaction to the US paying $213 BILLION in interest
1.42.48 - Why realtors leave their jobs
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I know this life meant for me.
Why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet taken?
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This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to hate it.
I didn't run, homie, look what I become.
I'm the one.
I want to treat you with respect.
We got the one and only Jimmy Dore in the house.
If you don't know, American stand-up comedian, big YouTuber, podcast, very popular.
Everybody's talking about it.
I can't tell you how many people have said, when are we getting Jimmy on the podcast?
We finally did, Jimmy.
Thank you so much for coming out.
It's great to have you on.
It's my pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
Yes, and we learned today you like sushi.
You like good sushi.
Good sushi.
Good sushi.
Yeah.
And this one sushi in Studio City, if you say anything to the guy.
He'll kick you out.
It even says on the menu, if you read the back of the menu, it says, hey, we don't do California rolls.
We don't serve spicy mayo.
We don't do this.
We don't do that.
We serve fish here, and you're going to like it.
And the name of it?
It's Kazu, K-A-Z-U.
Yeah, so that's the place that Armand would talk about.
Rafi's place.
He would take me.
I'm like, it says, just go let them do their thing.
Whatever they bring, just enjoy the food, right?
What was impressive is that you and George Clooney dine together all the time.
That's like Shatner's.
How did that happen?
Anyways.
So do you want me to tell you a story?
I'll tell that story.
So my friend Steve-O was a big, not the Steve-O.
Steve-O from Jackson.
You can't just drop a Steve-O.
No, it's not the door right there.
Different one.
Different Korean friend of mine.
And he was a big sushi guy.
And I wanted to get into sushi.
I liked it.
And so he said the best place is this place by his house in Studio City.
And so he said, he goes, don't get freaked out.
People, it's not going to be a lot of people in there.
He said, but the people who are in there, they know.
And George Clooney will be there probably.
And I'm like, get out of here.
So I walk in.
It's Friday night at 8 o'clock.
I walk in and my friend is sitting at the sushi bar.
He's the only one.
There's no one else in there.
8 o'clock on a Friday.
I'm like, this place can't be good.
So I sit down and there's five people at a tent.
The only other people are five people in this table.
And one of them is George Clooney.
That's crazy.
I was like, get out of here.
So then we eat.
And then so I go to the bathroom.
And as I come out of the bathroom, George Clooney is like bowing to him, right?
He's like saying thank you.
I'm not sure if I've ever seen one.
I do that now to him.
So I come in, we bow to each other.
When I leave, we bow to each other.
And he's like doing that.
And he's like saying something to him.
So I like stop because I don't want to walk in between them.
And I just like, I thought it'd be over real quick, but they kept talking.
And now I look like an ass wipe.
I'm standing there just because he's George Clooney.
If it was anybody else, I would just walk right through.
So I'm like, you got to walk through now.
You can't just stand there.
You look like an idiot.
So I start to walk through and then I ducked my head.
You know what's crazy?
If I can add to that, you know, George Clooney tells the exact same story.
He's like, I go to this place.
And the only person there is this guy, Jimmy Doerr.
I bow to him.
The whole deal.
Here's a crazy, even crazier than that.
So about a week ago, maybe two, my wife saved the Boston Legal is on Hulu now.
And so that's my all-time favorite show is Boston Legal.
I never liked any of those people in acting until they were on that show.
And I love them, right?
Especially William Shatner.
And so I'm sitting there, again, me and my friend Rick Overton having sushi, only people in the place.
In walks William Shatner by himself, sits down at the sushi.
So my wife had saved this episode, and it was about how him and his name is Denny Crane on the show.
And Alan Shore is the other guy.
I can't think of his real name.
But they're having, they have these conversations at the end of every episode where they smoke a cigar and they have a scotch and they have these heart-to-hearts.
And so they were talking about, he said, the one guy said, my father never approved of me.
And he said, there's something, there's something, there's nothing more horrible than a father's not approving of his son.
And then Denny Crane, William Shatner, says, oh, my father always approved of me, right?
But we know as an audience that his father disowned him.
Right.
So then he finally just snaps and goes, my father disowned me.
And Alan Shore looks, look at him and says, Denny, I'm proud of you.
And he says, what are you proud of?
And he says, I just am.
I always am proud of you.
Oh, wow.
And my wife saw that and she knew I would want to see it because it really was emotional for me.
And I couldn't, it was really a big deal for me.
And so then I'm sitting there the next day, William Shatner walks in, sits there, and I'm just like, what the hell is crazy?
And so that was a big deal.
And we talked and he told me he got, so he, every time he would eat a piece of fish, he would look at me and goes, this is amazing.
And I go, yeah, this is the best.
This is the best fish.
So how was the California roll, though?
Yeah.
And Jane Shatner said he's proud of you.
Yeah.
And by the way, it's kind of like, and that's our sponsor today.
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It can't get a better sponsorship than this.
FY, why did you like the clip?
Because your dad was a cop, right?
Did you have a good relationship with them?
No, my dad had two emotions, angry and not angry yet.
And he was what they called, my dad, I come from a long line of alcoholics.
My dad wasn't a drinker.
He's what they call a dry drunk, right?
So he still had all the anger and rage of an alcoholic, but we never got to enjoy any of the fun drunk times.
Yeah.
But, you know, my dad worked two and three jobs his whole life.
He put us to Catholic school.
And so he was a good father in lots of ways, you know, but, you know, he was just emotionally like most men.
You know, he wasn't available and he wasn't really approving, you know, very much.
I remember the first time he saw me do stand-up was in Las Vegas.
And I was at the MGM Grand and it was a beautiful room and I had a great show.
And afterwards, I go, dad, when they weren't, my parents weren't saying anything.
And we're standing outside the bathroom waiting for my little sister to get out of the bathroom.
My parents weren't saying anything.
And I go, mom, what'd you think of the show?
She goes, what did you think?
I go, I thought it went good.
She goes, then it went good.
Let's eat.
It was hilarious.
And I was like, holy shit.
So then later that night, later that night, I say to my dad, I go, Dad, what did you think of the show?
He goes, the language, you don't even use it right.
And I was just like, I didn't know.
I was just like, so that was, yeah, so it was crushing in a way, right?
And then I had to forbid my parents from coming to my company.
That's right.
It's the last time you ever come.
But was your comedy due to the life that was very intense?
Was it your way of coping with stuff?
Or no, you were just funny always.
I think it was, yeah, I was the youngest.
So I come from 12 kids, right?
So my, it's a long story, but I was the youngest boy.
And then when I was in school, my mom got lonely because all her kids were at school all day.
So she went and adopted two more kids.
I'm not kidding.
Hold on, did you say 12 kids?
So we had 10 kids and then my mom adopted two more.
I'm sure it was Baker's Dozen family going on over there.
It worked out.
I had one older brother.
I wasn't thrilled that she adopted someone older than me.
I could kick my ass.
Because I had enough of that already, right?
You were the youngest?
Yeah.
But then I got a little sister out, which she adopted a little sister.
So that was fun.
I got to have a little sister.
You had to beat her up a little bit.
Yeah, but way to go, Jim.
And then she has triplets, which are great.
So anyways, so growing up, I did talk about in my stand-up.
I know my parents didn't like it because I talked about getting hit as a kid, right?
And they don't like that.
They didn't like, they didn't like hair and that.
But I did.
My parents, they saw hit us for discipline, which, and now as a grown-up, it's always, well, what I say in my act is it's always horrible when someone hits their kid in front of me.
I never know when you're supposed to step in.
One time I was in an airline terminal, this lady's hitting her kid.
He's like five years old.
She's wailing on him.
And finally, I go, hey, why don't you cut it out?
You're creeping everybody out.
And she goes, no, you got to hit him, make some good people.
Oh, wow.
And I was like, wow, how many punches would it take to make you a decent dude?
Turns out 80.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And teach her a lesson, Jim.
Teacher a lesson.
Which is really nice now.
By the way, just because we've been talking about this a lot, have you ever seen the movie The Judge?
Because the father-son, you've never seen the movie The Judge.
You're killing me.
What is that?
You got a home movie, man.
I mean, you just got yourself a home movie.
If you like that scene from the movie you were talking about, you're going to love the judge.
Yeah, that's all I would say.
Robert Donnie Jr.
Yeah, and Duval.
Yeah, look, if you like a complicated father-son relationship, this is the ultimate book for it.
Movie Ford.
Remember The Great Santini?
You ever see that movie?
No.
What's that?
That's the one I got to watch.
Callen told you to watch that so you could cry.
So that's the one I got.
What was that all about?
That's father-son.
Yeah.
They play basketball again.
Oh, it's also Duval.
Yes.
It's a young Duval.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
I got to check it out.
1979.
That's the first one he said yesterday when you said that.
You're after you and I were born.
Yeah.
It's five years before you were born.
That's true.
I'm still turning 40.
There's some pretty heavy scenes in that.
So, Jimmy, so comedy politics, okay?
Comedy politics.
When I sit there and I watch George Carlin, I'm fascinated by the guy, how he would sit there and take complicated and he just poke everybody, troll, make you feel uncomfortable, laugh and think all at the same time, right?
A few guys can do it.
Some don't want to touch it.
Some don't want to get close to it because like, look, I do anything but politics.
I don't want to touch it because of all this stuff.
What's the risk of a comedian talking politics?
Well, you could lose your audience.
I was told not to talk about politics, right?
So when after the Iraq War, I started to turn more political in my comedy.
Which year, the first one or the second one?
Second one.
Okay, gotcha.
This is 04, not 89, 91.
So, and then I got asked to do a show at the UCB Theater opened up in Los Angeles, and they asked me if I wanted to do a show.
So I didn't know what to do besides stand-up, right?
So I had hurt my back, and I was watching a lot of news, and I was just like, well, I'll just use video clips and talk about how crazy the news is and how bad it is because the news is horrible, right?
And so that's when I started to become more political.
And everybody told my manager, the club owners, they go, don't talk politics.
Jimmy, don't talk politics.
You don't want to split your audience, right?
Well, I didn't listen to him, and I just kept doing it anyway.
And I got an hour special out of it.
And in 2008, it was called Citizen Jimmy.
And it was chosen best of the year by iTunes and Punchline magazine.
So I proved all those motherfuckers wrong.
Good.
There you go.
And then it went on.
Then I got hired by the Young Turks because they saw my special and they were looking for a fill-in host.
And so then I worked there for about 10 years.
And that's all politics.
You were with Young Turks for 10 years.
Yeah, about 10 years.
And you were there when Rubin was also there.
Yeah, that's how I met Dave Rubin.
Got it.
What did you do with Young Turks?
Was it with Jenk and those guys, or was it your own show?
No, I was always on the main show a lot.
And except after Trump got elected, they stopped having me on.
And because they all became Trump deranged.
And I kept telling them, you can't have four Hillary voters on a news panel and call yourself an alternative news show.
You're not an alternative to anything.
You're MSNBC.
And so anyway, so I had my own show, but they put it behind a paywall.
And after, anyway, so I left after they kept getting Trump deranged.
And after the Mueller report came out, I thought everybody would go back to normal because the Mueller report said there's no collusion.
And it was all revealed this was a big psyop by the goddamn CIA and Democratic Party and all blah, blah, blah.
And they didn't.
They didn't stop.
And they just jumped on another horse and kept going.
And I was just like, I got to get out of here.
So I left.
And then it all went to shit because their executive producer, when I did Force to Vote, I don't know if you guys ever heard about that.
So when the squad got elected, AOC and those people, they all got elected.
Then we're going to oppose the establishment of the Democratic Party.
We're going to oppose Nancy Pelosi.
We're going to be the progressives, you know.
And so I was like, okay, so they won.
And then it was such a small margin that the Democrats held, just like now with the Republicans.
And so to vote for the speaker, just like they just did this time for McCarthy, we wanted them to withhold their vote to extract something.
And what we wanted in the middle of a deadly pandemic, as they said, well, we want to vote on Medicare for All because everybody on the quote unquote left had agreed for over a generation that getting a vote on Medicare for All on the House floor was a big deal and we should achieve it.
Even in the DSA, the Democratic Socials of America, in their handbook in 2019, it said the biggest thing we could do is get a vote on Medicare for All.
And so I came up with the idea.
Hey, it's like eight votes or something.
It was very low.
And I said, so if you withhold your vote for Nancy Pelosi as speaker, she can't become speaker.
And what you should demand is a vote for Medicare for All because AOC had said that as she was campaigning.
She said, we can't even get a vote for Medicare for All on the House floor.
We can't even get a vote.
That's horrible.
And then she said the Democratic Party is a conservative party.
It's a center-right party.
Those were words that's verbatim from AOC.
So we're like, okay, so now we're going to oppose.
We're going to bring the Democratic Party back to the left.
We have leverage, just like the Republicans just had with McCarthy.
Matt Gates and those guys.
They had leverage.
And they got a lot of stuff.
They did.
And they, yeah, I mean, they brought McCarthy to his knees.
15.
Yeah.
That's insane.
Right.
Yeah.
And so then, and so what we wanted them to do that, they wouldn't do it.
And they kept making up all these excuses why they wouldn't do it.
Now's not the time.
And then they got a lot of people in the media like the Young Turks to bullshit for them.
And guys like Ryan Grimm at the intercept.
And they ran interference and tried to muddy the waters.
It's a very simple morality play.
And they try to make it complicated.
Like it was hard to do.
And so we were vindicated because Matt Goetz and the right wing just did the exact same thing to McCarthy.
And people were lying, by the way.
So when I said they should do that, they would go, no, if we do that, Kevin McCarthy will become Speaker, which is a lie.
They can't happen.
And Kevin McCarthy couldn't become speaker when the Republicans had the goddamn house.
So that was a big deal that was forced to vote.
And I've been vindicated.
I mean, the people who supported it, lots of people supported it.
It wasn't just me.
It was guys like Cornell West, guys like Chris Hedges, Bernie Sanders, former press secretary, Breonna Joy Gray, Medea Benjamin.
There's Marianne Williamson.
There's a lot of people that were on board for this.
And I would say about half the people who were Bernie Sanders supporters, maybe all of them.
They didn't do it.
They got exposed.
And now they're just go-along play-alongs.
And there's no reason to vote for Democrats at all.
Today.
Today.
You believe that?
Yes.
I tell people that if you have any morality, you will not vote for one of these two pro-war anti-worker parties.
You will vote for a third party.
And people say, well, Jimmy, if you do, you know, third parties are not viable.
So what they're really saying is you can't vote for a third party until a lot of people are already voting for a third party.
Well, how do you get started?
You have to start voting for a third party.
And that's why, and so we got to stop donating to them.
We have to take, you know, there's only one party in America with very, very little differences.
You know that, right?
Your point is what?
With the people who are behind it, with the money that they're given, so they have to kind of please the same people and how years ago, you know, Obama and Clintons, you know, were bought by Wall Street and then on the right.
Is that kind of a problem?
You got it.
Yeah.
In 2020, did you do this?
So I want to go into these topics.
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If the Trump, you know, the folks who had a hard time dealing with Trump, are they over it?
Are people ready for him to come back?
Is it DeSantis?
Is it a Tulsi Gabbard?
I know you're a big Tulsi fan.
And then I want to also talk about some other issues that's going on with Bernie.
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I have some thoughts on that.
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Okay, so let's get right into it.
Trump, you talked about Trump earlier and how you were working at Young Turks and how the fact that they had four people who were pro-Hillary, similar to what MSNBC was, there's nothing difference about you and what their slogan was, that's not where you are.
Alternative media.
And their challenge was 26 and they won't bring you a lot because of Trump.
Do you think America is still dealing with that?
Or do you think Trump has an opening to make a comeback?
Or is everybody kind of saying if anybody from the opposite side does become a president, it's got to be anyone but Trump, which means DeSantis is who we're okay with.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not good at predicting stuff like that, but I do feel like that a lot of the Republicans that did support Trump are kind of ready to move on.
That's my sense.
I could be wrong.
Who knows?
Maybe he goes out and gives a couple of speeches and people get riled up again and it all happens again.
But people saw him as an anti-establishment and he's a billionaire, which is kind of wild.
But, you know, people, the reason why, I try to tell people, why do you think the establishment hated Trump so much?
It's because they couldn't control him as much as they could control other people.
And he was, compared to Joe Biden and Barack Obama, he was an anti-interventionist compared to those guys, right?
And he did campaign on ending the wars and stuff like that.
And he wasn't as bad as what's going on right now.
What's going on right now is what we were told Trump was going to do, saber-rattle with nuclear powers, and he's a madman and he can't have his finger.
Well, that's what they're doing right now, right?
And so in 2016, when they cheated Bernie Sanders, is when I stopped being a Democrat.
And then Bernie Sanders didn't make them pay a price for it.
He didn't make him reform.
He didn't make him stop cheating progressives.
He didn't make them stop taking corporate money.
He didn't use his leverage one bit.
He didn't ask his followers to get in the streets and protest or do anything.
And he never will.
Because Bernie Sanders, although he espouses all the right things, doesn't have a backbone or a spine.
And he's there.
It's kind of obvious.
Now, if you're not looking, he's there to make sure all the revolutionary energy and the progressive energy that is on the left gets funneled back into a pro-war, anti-worker, pro-Wall Street party.
And that's all he's doing.
There's a politician who I'm fond of, Shama Sawant, in Seattle, and she says that the road for progressives inside the Democratic Party leads to a graveyard.
And it's exactly right.
I mean, Joe Biden campaigned on $15 minimum wage.
He's not doing it.
He campaigned on giving people health care through the public options.
They don't even bring up health care.
They don't do anything.
In the middle of a deadly pandemic, this country is so corrupted, they won't give people health care in the middle of a pandemic.
But they will send $100 billion to the most corrupt country in Europe, Ukraine.
And without any oversight to how that money is being spent or where those weapons are going, I say when I go on stage in Los Angeles, I go, I don't care if they send $100 billion to Ukraine.
I just wish they'd sent $100 billion to the United States.
How about we send a couple billion dollars to LA, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Minnesota, and then we can maybe fix homelessness because $100 billion could end homelessness about five.
It's unbelievable.
People have no idea how much $100 billion is or the fact that they said Trump was a madman and they increased his military budget $132 billion while he was president.
Well, if he's a madman, why are you giving him more money to go do war and stuff?
It's not about him being a madman.
It's about the military-industrial complex as a stranglehold on our government.
And that's exactly what's happening.
I want you to watch this.
Everybody in the progressive, every one of the squad, they voted for that war in Ukraine.
And the only people standing up against it are the people on the right.
So things are flipped now.
Very weird.
Very weird.
And by the way, if there's one thing that's been constant about Trump, he's been anti-war for a long time.
Didn't he buy like a two-page center, you know, ad on USA Today or New York Times it was to talk about Bush's war and how you know you know how they were so upset.
How could you do it?
You're a Republican.
No, he's a Democrat.
No, he's a this.
What's happening today, which is kind of weird, is the following.
I want to get your thoughts on this.
And I wanted you to watch this, what John Kirby just went through.
I wonder if Democrats are kind of sitting there saying, dude, I don't know if I'm a Democrat.
Like I am a Democrat.
I'm a registered Democrat.
I've always voted Democrat, but dude, I'm not for that.
And I'm not for this.
And I'm not for that.
Where, you know, the Republican Party, for a lot of people, it's like, I will never be a Republican.
Are you kidding me to associate with these war monger?
All these, and then you're like, so who do I vote for today?
So you're talking independent, libertarian.
Then the conversation comes about who can actually win today?
Who can get the job done today?
Who do I trust today?
The more and more you're listening to different people's views, I wonder if the voter is kind of confused saying, dude, I don't know what to do.
What do I do next?
The only difference between a Democrat and a Republican, as Ralph Nader said, is the speed at which their knee hits the floor when a donor walks in the room.
And so it doesn't matter who's president.
Barack Obama was not a departure from George Bush.
He was a continuation of George Bush.
He took us from two wars to seven wars.
He kicked 5.1 million families out of their homes while he made sure the bankers didn't miss their bonuses.
He deported twice as many Hispanics as Donald Trump.
He built those cages that put those people in.
He dropped 26,000 bombs.
The Air Force ran out of bombs.
That's a fact.
They ran out of bombs.
He dropped so many bombs.
He did a drone war, a drone program that killed 90% innocent people.
You know, if somebody walks into a mall and shoots 15 people down with this gun, that's the biggest thing.
Oh, my God.
Barack Obama was doing it on a daily basis, killing women and children with his drone war.
And he got a Nobel Peace Prize.
He got a Nobel Peace Prize.
He didn't even do anything.
And so it's a uniparty.
And so when Trump got in office and he mentioned that there's a deep state, they're like, you can't say that.
What are you doing?
And when he said, hey, when they asked him, why are you leaving your troops in Syria?
And he said, for the oil.
They're like, you get mugged.
He goes, no, it's for the oil.
No, it's for liberty.
It's for helping the people.
No, it's for the oil.
It's our oil.
And so he let the cat out of the bag.
And they can't have that.
That's what he blew the whistle on what's actually going on.
Our wars are for oil.
Our wars are economic wars, just like what's happening in Ukraine.
This is an economic war.
We're trying to put a hurt and isolate Russia.
We're afraid of Russia and their natural resources and their manpower coming together with Germany with their technology and their capital.
And we've been saying that for decades.
And so that's why we blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.
And that's why this Ukraine war is happening.
And people have no idea what's happening.
And what's worse is they have no idea that they have no idea what's happening.
That's the crazy part.
Can you play this clip?
It's so interesting.
When you watch this, the guy that's asking the questions is so calm and poised, and he gets rattled.
Watch this.
To look at this and say the reason that the Russian army is on NATO, the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is because NATO has expanded rather than the Russians expanding.
In other words, NATO has moved closer to Russia rather than Russia moving closer to NATO.
Is that not an accurate way to look at this?
I think that's the way President Putin probably looks at it.
Certainly not the way that we look at it.
You don't think that NATO has expanded eastward toward Russia?
NATO has expanded.
And the expansion has been a good thing for the reason that the Russian army is at NATO's doorstep is not the fault of the Russian army.
It's not the Russian army that's done it.
It's NATO has moved closer to moving.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who were ordering upwards of 15 battalion tactical groups to within 10 kilometers of the border with Ukraine.
And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NATO who put little green men inside Ukraine to destabilize Eastern Syria.
I'm pretty sure that Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
So unless that's changed.
It's not protested.
But I'm pretty sure the movement by Russia is Russia.
If NATO is moved east, the reason that the Russian army is closer or on NATO's doorstep is because NATO moved.
NATO is not an anti-Russia alliance.
NATO is a security alliance.
For 50 years, it was an anti-Russian Soviet alliance.
So do you not understand it, Togo?
Do you not understand how can you not even see other Russians would perceive it as a threat?
And the fact that it keeps getting closer to their border while their troops, I mean, the places where their troops are, you say their troops are, and they may have been in Ukraine and Georgia, are not NATO members.
I don't have, I'm not going to pretend to know what goes in President Putin's mind or Russian military commanders.
I mean, I barely got a history degree at the University of South Florida.
What I can tell you is that NATO is a defensive alliance.
It remains a defensive alliance.
Fair enough, but it has moved east, correct?
I mean, that's just a matter of fact.
But there's no reason for anybody to think the expansion is a hostile threatening move.
And we've been saying that throughout the last 15 years, Matt.
You're moving closer to Russia.
You're blaming the Russians for being close to NATO.
No, no, no, no.
That's exactly what Higgins is.
We're blaming the Russians for violating the territorial integrity of Ukraine and destabilizing the security system.
Which is not a NATO member.
Which is not a NATO.
I see other countries feel threatened.
Nothing makes me happier than when you actually see a really good reporter that has the balls to do stuff like that and isn't silent because they're scared about losing their job.
I love things like that.
That's a guy named Matli, that journalist.
Good guy.
What are your thoughts when you see that?
Well, it's obvious that they don't want you to know the real history.
They don't want you to know that when Germany was allowed to reunify, the promise from NATO to Russia was that we won't expand NATO.
And then, of course, it did.
I think there's 13 or something more countries that they put into NATO.
And now they wanted to put Ukraine into NATO or threatened to do that.
That would be like if Russia got into a military alliance with Mexico and they wanted to start putting military bases in Mexico.
We wouldn't allow that.
We wouldn't allow it.
And just like what happened with Cuba with the Missile Crisis in the 60s, we wouldn't allow stuff like that.
But we're doing that.
And people don't, they don't want you to know that this NATO is not a defensive.
It is offensive.
This is a war that was started and provoked by NATO and the West.
Zelensky ran on peace.
He bred on bringing the country back together, right?
The Russian speakers in the east, the Donbass, but he didn't do it.
So why?
Because he got threatened by NATO and the ultra-right, the Nazis in Ukraine.
And so they threatened to kill.
He knows he's a dead man if he does a peace deal with Russia.
So that's why he won't.
And when they had a peace deal in March, and that's when Boris Johnson from the UK flew there and said, hey, you better don't do this.
And he killed the peace deal.
So Russia is the one that wants peace in this deal.
And Ukraine and NATO do not.
They want to bleed Russia economically.
And that's why they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
And they allegedly.
Yeah, they always said they were going to do it, and they did it.
And I don't, for the life of me, I can't get why the European nations are going along with this.
They've said stuff like, the foreign minister of Germany said, I don't care about my people if they don't want this.
I care about the people of Ukraine.
What leader of a country says they don't care about their own people, but they care more about somebody else's country.
It's crazy what's going on.
So people don't realize that NATO has provoked this.
In fact, there was a peace agreement in 2014.
The CIA helped overthrow the Ukraine government.
And then the people in the Donbass didn't want to go along with this couped government, right?
Because the leader of Ukraine wanted to be friendlier economically with Russia instead of joining like the European Union.
And they couldn't have that, right?
So that's why they did a coup.
And the people, the Russian speakers in the Donbass didn't want to go along with that coup.
And so they kind of wanted to break away.
Ukraine government started shelling the Donbass.
And so they had a peace agreement called the Minsk Agreement.
And that was supposed to give them independence.
They were supposed to have their own elections.
And they were going to stop shelling them.
They never did.
They ended up killing like 14 or 15,000 people in the Donbass over the last eight years.
And now it's been revealed that that peace agreement was never real.
Merkel, the former prime minister of Germany, just admitted that the only reason they did that peace agreement was to give Ukraine enough time to build up its military.
So when they finally did provoke an invasion, which is what they did, that they would have a military ready to fight Russia.
And so people don't know this is what happened.
And so they just think that one day Putin woke up and said, I want to go invade Ukraine because I'm a maniac.
And they think that he's the bad guy.
They think that he's acting rationally.
He's acting.
We always knew he would do this.
In fact, we were counting on him doing this.
That's why we did what we did.
And they don't know that Ukraine ramped up their bombing right before the war started last year.
They doubled their bombing.
They were really trying to provoke it.
And they did.
They provoked it.
And Russia would rather have a peace agreement.
The rest of the world would rather have a peace agreement.
Not NATO, not Joe Biden, not the military-industrial complex.
And so that's where we are.
And people don't know that.
And that's what that is.
That guy's saying, hey, NATO's the ones expanding.
The reason why he said it, the reason why NATO's army is on the doorstep of Russia is because we moved, not Russia.
And it's just obvious that we're the bad guys.
The United States are the world's terrorists.
We have a thousand military, but you know, we have 400 military bases surrounding China since the Korean War.
We just added three new military bases in the Philippines.
They just announced two weeks ago.
This is how all empires end.
We're ending.
We're overextending militarily while we have people living under every bridge.
People don't have health care, a living wage.
Half the country can't afford a $500 emergency.
80% of workers live paycheck to paycheck.
50% of wage earners earn $30,000 or less.
People go bankrupt when they get sick in this country.
We have homeless people everywhere, and that's because our government is 100% corrupted.
It's the people think that's corrupted, like, oh, Joe Biden gave his kid a no-show job in a Ukraine energy board, or Donald Trump gave his kid a deal with the Saudi.
No, no, no.
That's regular corruption.
I'm talking about 100%.
Everything the government does, it only does it because of corruption.
And that's the only way the wheels get greased is through corruption.
That's why we can send $100 billion to Ukraine without any oversight, and we still won't send it to our own cities to fix our homelessness or our bridges that those homeless people are living under.
We won't even fix our own goddamn country.
So people don't realize that this is pretty much a banana republic.
We're at the end.
This is the end of this empire.
We're basically Brazil with a couple of big cities that are keeping it afloat.
You think so?
Yeah.
You believe that?
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, when half the country can't afford a $500, this is what I like to say.
What do you call a system that takes the richest country the face of the earth has ever seen and renders half of its population poor or low income?
You call that a failed system.
And that's where we're living in.
And people think we're going to be able to vote our way out of this.
What we have to do is get people in the streets.
So when someone like AOC has 13 million Twitter followers and Bernie Sanders says, oh, they're supposed to tell people to get in the street, shut stuff down, protest, and take our government back.
But they won't because they're part of the system.
And that's what I'm trying to wake people up.
It's worse off having people like Bernie Sanders and AOC in the Democratic Party in government, even though Bernie claims he's an independent.
He's a Democrat.
And why is it worse?
Because it gives people the false impression that there's somebody actually fighting for you in government.
And there isn't.
And the only way you can have change, you get people into the streets is when they lose faith in the system.
And we have to get them.
We have to disabuse them of the idea that there is somebody fighting for them in this system and there isn't.
So I was going to ask you, what's the solution?
You just said the solution is to get people to lose faith in the system for a part of it.
And getting the streets to lose faith in the system.
Okay, so let's just say, let's play that.
Let's say that happens.
Okay.
Let's say somehow, somewhere, AOC and Bernie Sanders listen to this and they have a change of heart.
And they say, Jimmy, you're right.
And they tweet out on Twitter today and they say, Jimmy's right.
Okay.
Let's take it on the streets and let's go everywhere and let's protest against this.
Fantastic.
Then what?
That's how things change.
That's how we got civil rights.
What should change?
That's how women got their rights.
What should change?
When we get money out of politics is the first thing.
We got to get money out of politics.
And so it's the honey.
I would recommend public financing of our elections and we shorten our election season.
There's a million things you could do that way, but definitely get money out of politics.
You want to have election campaign finance reform.
Right.
That's number one on your list.
Donald never changed that.
So that's what I mean until we shut stuff down.
I mean, the truckers showed that you could bring them to their needs.
In Canada.
Yeah.
And so, and, you know, of course, people in the United States, they listen to the corporate media.
They call those people Nazis when they're actually freedom fighters and they were right.
They weren't fighting against medicine.
The truckers were vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population in Canada.
They were fighting against authoritarianism and they were right.
And America look at those truckers and they call them Nazis and they look at Nazis in Ukraine and they call them freedom fighters.
That's how messed up our corporate media is.
Jimmy, but let's go with that.
I'll tell you one more thing.
I want you to keep going though.
Give me more.
That was a very good point, but keep going.
So what happened in Staten Island at the Amazon warehouse, Christian Smalls is a black guy who got fired and then he decided to organize a union and he organized along class lines.
So a lot of people on the left in the Democratic Party said we have to organize along class lines.
They don't mean it because what organizing along class lines means is you're going to organize with Trumpers.
You're going to organize because you're in the same class.
And that's exactly what Christian Smalls did on Staten Island.
You know, Staten Island is a bunch of Trump voters.
And so he went and organized those people because they have a common interest.
And they have a common enemy, and that is the establishment and the oligarchy.
And you put down your differences politically and you join together on a class basis.
And that's how you make change.
And so we need more of that.
We need more people coming together.
Unless the left and the right realize that we do have common interests, which we do, we all want to stop the war machine.
We all want to stop this authoritarianism around COVID.
We all want to stop a lot of things, right?
So if we could come together and realize we're being screwed because our government is 100% corrupt, then maybe we could get something done.
You know, I had a Boogaloo boy on my show.
Now, a lot of people conflate Boogaloo Boys with Proud Boys, but they're not.
Boogaloo boys are a response to the proud boys.
Boogaloo boys were pro-LGBTQ.
They were pro-Black Lives Matter.
They're anti-war.
They were anti-Trump and they were anti-cop.
So I'm like, oh my God, we agree on a lot of things.
I didn't know that.
Well, they can't.
So the establishment, the Democratic Party, they did a smear campaign against me.
They still do it to this day just because I interviewed a Boogaloo boy on my show.
I didn't hire him.
We just had an interview, just like you're interviewing me.
That doesn't mean you're validating what I'm saying.
You're just interviewing me.
Same thing.
So that's how, and that is the thing that scares them.
If the left and the right organize on class lines, that is the thing that we're really scared.
We're doing an anti-war rally on the 19th, this Sunday at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.
And we got people from the left.
We got people from the right.
We got people from the center.
We got all kinds of people to oppose war.
That's what gives it its power.
If it was just a bunch of progressive lefties, it wouldn't have any power.
But the fact that there's Ron Paul's going to be there, he's going to be speaking.
So that's a big deal.
And Tulsi Gebbard's going to be there.
You're getting Ron Paul out of Houston.
Yeah, he never leaves Texas.
This is a big deal that he's going to be there.
So anyway, we have to do more things like that.
That's the only way to take back our government is to get in the streets, shut stuff down.
And then, you know, in France, they have eight, they have their, they're going to try to raise their retirement age from 61 to 63.
You know, they're raising it in the United States to 67.
They already have Medicare for all.
They already have dental.
They have retirement Social Security.
And they still get in the streets and shut shit down all the time.
And I don't know if you've ever been to, when we're in Italy, it was like, oh, the trains aren't going to be running today.
There's going to be a strike.
They do it all the time.
We'll bring back Mussolini.
In the rest of the world, the left is connected to the working class, except in the United States.
The Democratic Party is a bunch of, their core constituency are suburban white people.
They admitted it.
Chuck Schumer said, they go, hey, when Hillary was running against Donald Trump, they were saying, hey, Donald Trump's picking up blue-collar voters.
And he said, doesn't matter.
For every blue-collar voter we lose, we're going to pick up two or three white-collar suburban voters.
And you can repeat that in Ohio and Wisconsin.
He said that.
I played on my show all the time.
Of course, he was wrong.
They lost.
And so they don't care about the blue-collar voters.
They don't care about the workers.
That's not their constituency.
They used to be their MO.
That's why there's nobody representing them anymore.
That's what gave Donald Trump his power because he spoke to those people.
Jimmy, who's anti-establishment today?
On the left or the right?
Who's anti-establishment today?
Left, right, middle, libertarian?
Who are some of the names?
Ron Paul being one of them, who else would you say?
You know, I don't have any faith in any of the politicians right now.
There's a woman in Seattle, Shama Sawan.
She had to fight the Democratic mayor and the Democratic city council to get a $15 minimum wage.
She has to fight the Democrats to get stuff.
The Democrats and the Republicans serve the same people.
They have the same neoliberal corporate interests.
And so I don't know anybody in politics that I would really go.
I used to like RoCon.
I used to like AOC.
I used to like all those Bernie Sanders, but none of them will stand up for what they claim to stand for.
And they all roll over for the establishment.
They all voted for war.
But, Jimmy, okay, so let's say not politics.
Who outside of politics?
Because you need some of the guys that are from the outside to get in the inside.
I like people like Chris Hedges.
I like, well, Dennis Kucinich is out of politics, right?
So he was they gerrymandered him out, right?
The Democrats are like, F you, you're you're too much of a progressive, and they get rid of him, and he's done.
So, uh, I don't, I like people like Chris Hedges, I like people like Dennis Kucinich.
I loved the way Tulsi stood up against the war machine in Syria.
Uh, unfortunately, she's still for the drone program, but so what?
She's better than everybody else when it comes to Syria, and that's why they people don't realize why they hated Tulsi so much is because she stepped down from being the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee to endorse Bernie Sanders.
Can I ask some names?
And here's what I want you to do: okay, from zero to 100, give a score, okay?
Give a score of where they're at: 100 being full-blown establishment, zero being anti-establishment.
Okay, fair, Ron Paul.
You know, I don't know.
All I know is how much I love the way he talks about I do too.
Just give a number.
What do you think?
Nobody's going to fact-check you.
It's your opinion.
I would say, I don't know, 60, 70.
Okay, Tulsi Gabbard.
Maybe 50.
I don't know.
Tulsi Gabbard.
I don't really like this.
I'll tell you why I'm asking this question.
I'm really curious because if you don't mind, so what do you think Tulsi is?
Zero to 100?
You know, she's showing, I would say, 50.
Okay.
What would you say Newsom is?
Oh, 100.
McConnell.
100.
McCarthy.
100.
McCarthy's son, Matt Gates.
I don't know, 70.
Okay, interesting.
That's why I'm asking the question: AOC.
I mean, Matt Gates stood up against work.
I agree with you.
He's putting in an anti-war legislation to stop the funding of the Ukraine.
And by the way, the case against them was dropped yesterday.
I don't know if you saw that or not.
Okay, how about AOC?
Oh, 100.
Okay, Bernie.
100.
Well, Bernie's actions are 100.
Okay, Trump.
Well, he went, you know, he's like I said, he wasn't an imperialist as much as other people were.
He was, but he wasn't as much.
He did talk about the deep state, but he didn't do anything he said he was going to do.
He said he was going to bring everybody jobs.
He was going to give everybody health care.
And he didn't do any of those things, but he did give people, he did give billionaires a trillion-dollar tax cut, just like everybody.
And so why do they hate him?
They hate him because he once in a while would tell the truth that you're not allowed to tell.
Like there's a deep state, a permanent state that actually runs things.
And Chuck Schumer also said that about Donald Trump when Donald Trump was telling people that the CIA and the FBI, there is a deep state and they're the ones pulling the strings out of stuff.
Chuck Schumer said it's really foolish of him to do that because if you go against the CIA, they got six ways this Sunday to get back at you.
No, that's the leader of the Democratic Party in the Senate saying that the president of the United States should be afraid of the CIA.
He said it on fucking camera and nobody, and everybody was like, Trump's crazy.
What?
No, Chuck Schumer just told you who runs this goddamn country and the president better watch his ass.
He better not cross the CIA.
That's what the leader of the Democratic Party said, who, by the way, he's not a leader.
He's a puppet of Wall Street.
How does a guy like Chuck Schumer, who I know you wouldn't even ask directions of the fucking freeway from, I wouldn't either.
These guys, how does he get to be a leader?
Because he's the biggest, him and Mitch McConnell, right?
They get they're the biggest marks.
Wall Street, military industrial complex, health insurance, big pharma, they give them all the money because they're the most corrupted.
And then they take that money and they give it to their colleagues so they can go get re-elected.
And then they have to vote for them as leader, not because they're leaders, but because of the most corrupted pieces of shit in Congress.
And that's why the country's like the way it is right now, because we're run 100% by corruption.
Okay, so Trump's wrote 100.
Like I said, I don't 85.
Okay, so go to Nikki Haley.
I don't know Nikki Haley.
Okay, fair enough.
Let's just keep going.
But I did see Don Lemon.
Yeah, that was not good.
How about DeSantis?
DeSantis?
DeSantis was better on COVID than other people.
So I would say 95.
Okay.
So you give Trump Lord and DeSantis.
Interesting.
So how about Michelle Obama?
100.
Hillary Clinton.
100.
Okay, fine.
So now let's do something.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Let's stay on this topic here.
So if out of everybody you said, it's interesting, you identify yourself as a, would you say you're a progressive?
Again, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
What would you say you are yourself politically?
I would say I'm politically homeless.
But I used to call myself a progressive.
I don't do that anymore because Hillary Clinton started calling herself a progressive.
So I can't be that.
So I just call myself a lefty or an old-style lefty.
Old-style lefty.
Yeah, I'm liberal.
You're not John F. Kennedy lefty, right?
Wow.
Well, I mean, the CIA killed him, right?
I mean, I don't know what that means.
I mean, I'm an RFK lefty.
I know that.
Okay.
So, yeah, I mean, I'm anti-imperialism.
I'm anti-war machine.
I'm pro-worker.
I'm pro-Medicare for all.
I'm free speech.
You know, people say, well, is it an absolutist?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why we have a First Amendment.
And the answer to bad speech is more speech, not censorship, as we're learning through the Twitter file.
Yeah.
So for me, you know what I think about?
I think.
Now, you know, people are going to clip this and say, look, Jimmy Doer says DeSantis is anti-establishment.
Jimmy Doer says Trump is anti-establishment.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying they are the establishment.
They're still going to do it, by the way, just so you know.
They're still going to clip this.
I know.
So you know that.
But here's a question for you.
So you think the right person for the job is ever somebody you fully like?
No.
Okay.
So you think the right person for the job, you have to like 100% of everything they do and you have to agree 100% with what they agree with?
No.
Okay.
So could the person that's the right person, what are the qualities of the right person for this job?
So purely not policies, but qualities.
What are the right qualities of somebody that would be the right person for this job to go against the establishment?
Qualities.
We need someone who's actually going to stand up for what they believe in.
Shama Sawant.
She's the real deal.
Qualities.
Give me qualities.
Her quality is honesty, integrity.
And I don't know what the word would be, but like her salary, she will only take as much money as the average salary in her district, and she gives the rest away.
That's a real deal.
I don't know what you call that, but she's real.
And she's where the rubber meets the road.
And that's the kind of politician I look for, people who care.
They know what it's like to struggle.
Can she be bought?
I don't think she can be bought.
Okay, so let's put that down.
I think we're getting something.
So you said honest, integrity, which by the way, it's very hard for us to really measure that, those qualities.
You know that.
That takes five, 10 years until we really know if a person is honest and has integrity.
But you said is not for sale.
Okay, let's put that.
What else?
Let's figure out some of these qualities here.
Is it fair to say that the person cannot be afraid of being trash, destroyed, labeled, shit talked about, you know, backstabbed?
You cannot fear.
What do you call that?
Do we want to put thick skin?
Is that fair?
Okay.
I would say thick skin.
What else would you say for the quality of this person?
Courage.
Courage.
What else?
I agree.
Do they have to have their own money?
Does it help if they have their own money?
You know, that's tough.
I mean, Shama Sawan certainly doesn't.
So I think integrity, no.
Are you sure?
So if someone like you ran, right, you wouldn't need their money.
Yeah.
So that would give you a certain amount of freedom.
Right.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean, I understand that idea.
Yeah.
So if you need their money, you become a puppet of them.
I guess we said that already.
You know, instead of saying not need money, it's not for sale.
Okay.
So you're not, you know, okay, let's put that slash has their own money, whatever.
Okay.
What else?
Because I think this is very important because for me, let me explain to what I'm doing here with you.
So our staff were sitting there.
We're having a conversation about who we need, the specific chief executive position that we're trying to hire for.
And there's debate amongst the group, board, who's the person to hire.
One group said, I think it's this person, that person, this person.
And we're having a very, very big debate.
I said, before we have this wasting time debating this, write out the job description and the qualities of this individual to fit the criteria.
And then let's go recruit that person, right?
That's what I'm doing right now.
So far, for us to have somebody that is not afraid to go up against these bullies that we know from both sides, this is what we have so far.
Honesty, integrity is not for sale, has their own money, thick skin, courage.
What else would you say?
Do we want to add anything else to this?
Compassion.
Compassion.
Somebody's going to care about this.
I agree.
That's a good one.
Good call, Rob.
What else would you say?
I mean, this is, you know, what else would you put on this list here?
Somebody said conviction.
Okay, let's put it.
Conviction.
Conviction is, is there anything else you want to add to it?
I think that's just not being taught and having courage is.
So for me, when you explain this to me, I hate to say this, and I know people are going to lose their minds when I say this, including yourself.
There's only one name I think about.
Uh-oh.
You know the name.
Who?
There's only one name you put on this list here.
You're going to put Trump.
There's only one name.
What's the name?
He said it.
Trump?
Let me explain to you why.
By the way, let me explain to you why, though.
Let me explain to you why.
The challenge with everything you said when you said, well, you know, he didn't even do it.
Look at him.
He said he's going to go to the CI and then Schumer said, what?
You know what?
You realize what they're going to do?
You realize they got six.
All this stuff that you said about CIA, of course.
Do you think a take a company that's been around for 20 years?
Let's change it.
Take a company that's been around for two years.
Okay.
They got 42 employees.
You become a CEO.
Are those people who are 42 employees, are they fully, fully loyal yet?
Or it's just too star of a company.
They can still say, no, we need somebody that knows what they're doing.
They'll flip to you immediately if you're a good CEO, right?
Okay.
Take a company that's 10 years and you come in.
Maybe there's a little bit more loyalty.
It's going to be hard to flip these guys, right?
Take a company that's 40 years.
You're going to have a hard time flipping.
So you got to fire a lot of people, right?
Take a company that's 100 years.
Take a company that's been around since 1776.
Let's just call this company USA.
Okay.
And you come in and you want to really, the way these guys have been country club politicians, and you want to break that apart, you don't have one enemy.
That's right.
You don't have two enemies.
You don't have 100 enemies.
You have hundreds, if not thousands, of enemies who will not let you ruin what they've been able to convince the American people of doing.
To be able to pull that off, it takes a very unique individual who is not going to be liked by a lot of people, who is accustomed to not being liked, who is accustomed to having thick skin, who's accustomed to negotiating with dirty people, politicians, business people.
He's dealt with everybody who's accustomed for that.
I'm not telling you he's the guy, but if you're saying you want somebody to go up against the establishment, I ask you names, you couldn't come up with names.
The lowest score you gave out of all the presidential candidates was only Trump.
That's the lowest score you give.
Out of all the names, outside of Tulsi Gabbard, because you gave Tulsi like a 50 is what you gave.
You gave Ron like a 50, I think.
But Ron is not going to run.
Tulsi could run.
This is not a regular person's job, is all I'm saying.
It's not a regular person's job.
To be this person, like the other day, you know, AOC posted a picture.
I don't know if you saw this or not.
She posted a picture of, what do you call it?
Herself with Lula, okay, from Brazil.
You mentioned Brazil.
That's why I'm bringing up Lula.
And if you see this picture, go all the way down, keep going down, keep going down.
She tweets a lot, so it's kind of tough to catch them.
You're probably not going to get to the picture, but it's a picture of her and Lula.
And she says something about it's so great to have a leader like this who's brave and courageous, et cetera, et cetera.
And then two posts later, you know what she posts?
She posts a picture with Elon Musk and Rupert Murdoch at Super Bowl.
And then she says what?
Birds like?
Birds of a feather flock together.
Right?
Right?
And then you're like, wait a minute.
If that's the case, two posts ago, you are Lula, and Lula came to the U.S.
I retweeted Biden's picture and I said, is Lula in America to get another car wash?
If you know the car wash, what he did, we stealing it.
Yeah, all that stuff.
So to point all I'm saying, this person, Jimmy, you're probably not going to like the person to go up against establishment.
You're probably not going to like him.
What do you think?
I would like Joe Rogan to run.
He ain't going to do it.
I know he won't do it, but he won't do it.
I think the world, a lot of people would want to have a guy like that run.
I don't know if he's going to be able to do that.
I think he has all those qualities.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree.
And they didn't come from the establishment because he wasn't a politician.
But I wanted to ask you when we were talking about it.
And I think one of his biggest mistakes for Trump was coming in and right off the rip going, I'm going to drain this swamp.
And we've said this before on the podcast.
Jimmy, when you drain a swamp, if you think about it, you take all the water and shit out.
You think alligators and snakes are going to go, hey, we're going to go to another, they're going to go crazy.
So here's my thing.
And it's funny, we're talking about Carlin.
I was listening to George Carlin on the way here, and it was like towards the end when he's like, with the government selling, he goes, it's a big club.
You ain't in.
None of us are in it.
So my thing is, that breaking point, Jimmy, that we're talking about, that moment where we're in the streets, and I'm just like you.
I've sacrificed some of my career because I finally started talking about it.
And it really bothers me that, you know, we're stuck in this rut.
And I always say for people to get into the streets.
But do you think that this deep state and all this, the system is so set up against us?
Even if we have that moment, Jimmy, where we're there, we're ready to go.
They own all the government.
They own everything.
We kind of can't really.
If we win the streets patent, was there actual revolution?
The National Guard's getting deployed.
Everybody's, all the cops, everybody's going to turn on us because they run the show.
The government runs all of them.
How loud do you think that we can actually get?
And what would be the breaking point for everybody to go, okay, we're done?
Do you think there even is a breaking point?
Well, that's what I keep asking that question.
like what's happening right now in palestine ohio i'm like when when are people when are they going to stop just taking it I don't understand what happened.
So it has to come from the grassroots.
I think it has to come from a worker-led kind of a thing and more of a Christian Smalls kind of a reaching out an economic alliance of the classes, working class.
I mean, so it is a class war that's happening.
And they won.
It's all over and they control that they can.
I mean, it's just so obvious that our government is completely controlled, which is why they can't give you health care while they they can't bring clean water to Flint, Michigan.
You know, they have billions of dollars in the Ukraine aid so they could get clean water in Ukraine.
They won't do that for the United States.
I have a question for you, Jimmy.
Yeah.
This is going to be kind of a crazy question, but just go with me.
Okay.
So we're railing on the establishment right now.
The establishment, the establishment, the establishment.
So the argument these days is, should we just tear it all down and start anew or fix sort of the problems?
Here's my question.
So when I think of establishment, I think of, well, the Supreme Court.
I think of Congress.
I think of the military.
I think of the office of the presidency.
I think of NATO.
I think of all the different alphabets, CIA, FBI, throw everything you want in there, right?
Every single department of this, education, agriculture.
Isn't that what kind of made America what it is today?
These establishments.
Now, there's bad actors within the establishments that we need to get the fuck out of there.
Term limits, bad actors, lobbyists that are operating within the shadows of the government that they need to get the hell out of there.
Crazy question, but aren't these establishments established for a reason?
And we just need to have better people in there and hold them accountable, but also maintain the establishments?
Well, you have to have institutions.
I'm not saying that.
That's what I mean.
Yeah, institutions, correct?
You have to have institutions, but look at a guy like Fauci, right?
So a guy there.
He's there 43 years.
These are bad actors, bad people.
But it's not the system of the NIH that's bad, right?
Right.
That the idea to have an FDA or a CDC or NIAID.
These are good things.
You need to have these things.
But the way they're funded is completely ridiculous.
Right now, the big pharma funds 70% of the FDA.
So they're completely kept.
So we have corporate capture of our regulatory agencies.
And so that's what I'm talking about.
We need to, first of all, start getting money out of politics so we can get our institutions back, back to serving the people instead of serving presidents.
I agree with you.
We want to maintain these establishments and these institutions, but with the right people.
But everything you want to throw with the big in there, right?
You want to throw big pharma, the military-industrial complex, right?
Big oil, big tech, all these big stuff that have sort of corporatism has come within these establishments and reached around and grabbed their tentacles all about them.
We just want to get them out.
So I think the reason that I'm asking this question is because we do want to maintain these establishments.
We do want to maintain what has made America great, for a lack of a better term, but get the nonsense out of it.
So I think it's like a very nuanced discussion and argument, not fuck the establishment.
We kind of need the establishment to maintain America.
So why was it, like, for instance, a lot of people would say, hey, why don't we nationalize the oil industry, right?
Because that's our oil.
It's the country's oil.
It's not Exxon's oil.
And then whenever a country tries to do that, the United States tries to coup that government, right?
So, yeah, I wouldn't inspect, even with the vaccine.
Like other people have made the point, like, why wasn't that nationalized?
Why were they allowed to make $100 billion off of COVID?
One company, which people have no idea how much money that is.
You know, the recording industry in the United States, every piece of music that's recorded and released generates $12 billion a year.
$100 billion went to one company for COVID.
I mean, that's the kind, and that $100 billion is enough to buy everybody in the media and buy everybody in government.
And we're living in a corrupted place, which is why people think ivermectin was horse pace instead of what it actually is, a miracle drug that has saved billions of lives and it's safer than aspirin.
So they wanted to make you think it was scary.
That's because, and it all started with Bill Clinton in 1996 when he did the Telecommunications Act.
And people don't realize we used to have 50 giant media companies in America.
And then Bill Clinton passed the Telecommunications Act, which took us down to six, which is why journalism sucks so hard in America is because they all work for the same people.
They were competing for the licenses.
It was insane.
By the way, that's a very big point he just made right there about the whole, we went from 50 to a handful, and that hurt a lot of people because you didn't have more voices until this format came out where a guy like him or Rogan or us, or we can go out there and talk and say what we're saying.
We're like, wait a minute, what are these guys who are these guys?
That kind of makes sense.
Let me Google this.
Let me research this.
But then you see the narrative is we're alt-right.
We're mental.
We're radical.
I don't know if they say that about you, but they say that about me, that I'm an all-right conspiracy theorist because I was right about RussiaGate.
I was right about Syria.
I'm right about COVID.
And so that's what they so they have narrative control.
And if you look at the journalists, and Twitter is the perfect example.
When the Twitter files came out, Matt Taibbi was exposing stuff like that.
And they were all shitting on him as if he's some kind of an idiot for doing, breaking a story about corruption of social media and the government.
And so you see, they're the narrative control.
That's what journalism is.
That's what corporate journalists are there for, to control the narrative.
And if they don't control the narrative, they have to start disappearing people.
And that's a lot harder.
Yeah, very important part about the narrative.
Like, for instance, you just called yourself a lefty, your words, and now you're quote unquote alt-right.
That they call me that.
Which one are you, Jimmy?
I'm lefty.
But this is the problem.
They try to discredit me by calling me altogether.
This is the problem.
And I just kind of revisit what you were talking about earlier with Putin, for example.
This is the problem with just dismissing and throwing a label on somebody.
So it's so easy to be like, Putin's crazy.
Or Zelensky's a hero.
That's right.
And that's it.
And most people, what I often say are most people are most people.
We talk about like most people are living paycheck to paycheck, trying to get by, raise their family, raise their kids, fucking just day-to-day work to work.
You want me to get into a nuanced discussion about the Donbass region of whether the military industrial complex is making money on Putin and the NATO alliance?
It's like, let me just try to get Payton later.
Right, buddy?
So it's just easy to just label Putin's crazy.
Zielinski's the hero.
He's going to be the man of the year.
All right, cool.
Jimmy's all right.
Let's keep it moving.
Bye.
But it's not so simple like that.
It's your point.
That's great.
And going back to what you're saying, though, when you said, you know, aren't some of these, you know, FDA, aren't some of these, you know, not institutions.
Aren't some of these establishments, departments, whatever you're going to call them, necessary?
Okay.
So in a company, when a person comes in, you see how many dumb departments there is that you're funding.
You go through, when you hire a CFO to come in and you do higher forensics auditing for your own company that you're taking over, you're about to buy.
So you're about to buy a company that's got a lot of issues.
You come in, you're going to spend a lot of money auditing that business.
So when we were being bought, there was people auditing every single thing on what statement, expenses, credit card, what's this?
What's that?
Why are you spending this money?
Your OpEx, your hiring.
Everything is being audited, right?
And you're like, dude, this is a waste.
That's a waste.
We can help you with this.
So then the buyer is sitting there saying, that $600,000 a year putting here, that will be a waste because we'll take it.
Don't worry about it.
We're going to save that money.
So that's an additional $600,000 in EBITDA.
That million dollars you're spending here, that $2 million you're spending here, we can save money in those fallen areas, right?
So when a person comes in, this whole thing with transportation czar, which is who?
This wonderful guy, this amazing guy.
I'd say like he threw his out of the city.
Do you know what we're starting to realize with everything that happened?
Has he gone to any of the spots, by the way?
I don't know.
Has he gone to Palestine?
Has he gone to Michigan?
Has he gone to Detroit?
No.
Has he gone to any of these places?
Okay, FYI, the same guy that you didn't like, let me ask you a question.
If this guy was president, the guy you don't like, honestly, Jimmy, honestly, if this guy was president today, you're a straight-up guy.
How long before he goes to Palestine?
I mean, Trump?
Yes.
How long before he goes to Michigan?
How long before he goes to the board?
Well, he was president and he didn't fix the water in Flint, Michigan.
You're expecting him to do it in what?
In four years.
In four years while he's getting trashed with Russia?
No, I mean.
While he's got a hundred other issues he's dealing with.
Because here's, again, this is what it goes back to.
The challenge with you wanting the candidate, your, and by the way, if we think we've seen dirt and smear campaigns on him, we're about to see a whole different and we're going to see it on DeSantis.
That's more they're going to find on Trump.
I mean, they're going to do it.
They're going to do a lot of this stuff.
They're going to find more.
Except for him, he has now got the lead on smear campaigns on all of them, with every Twitter files, everything that's coming out.
And now that Elon Musk owns Twitter, it's a different game today than it was in 2020 than today.
But this is the part.
All I'm saying to you is, if something like that happened, you got this department that Pete's running, you know what the average person is thinking?
How much money do we spend for this department of, you know, whatever, transportation?
Can you find out what is our budget for the Department of Transportation?
Because what did they do?
Okay, maybe we don't need that department.
How much money are we spending?
So the part of what you're saying is, yes, some of those things may be necessary, but the budget is too much of a budget.
Can we do it on half the budget?
Who do we need to fire?
Why do we have this many employees?
Why do we have that many employees?
It's the cut that we need to do.
Okay, great.
Yes.
No problem.
Exactly.
We don't need to tear down institutions.
We need to get the nonsense.
The only problem with that.
The only problem with that is, which, you know, within eight years or four years, another guy is going to come in and he's going to say, let's fill it up again.
Let's fill it up again.
Let's hire 87,000 new IRS agents.
Let's hire boom.
They're going to do that again and fill it up because we swap CEOs every four to eight years.
We swap CEOs every four to eight years.
And every time that happens, it's philosophy.
And by the way, we don't just swap CEOs.
We swap philosophies.
So we go, we go Reagan, we go Clinton.
You know, Senior, we go Clinton.
We go, boom, Go ahead.
I would disagree that they have different philosophies.
Like I pointed out that Barack Obama was not a departure from George Bush.
He was an extension of the George Bush.
Bill Clinton was not a lesser of two evil to Bob Dole.
You got to vote.
You got to vote.
I mean, to George Bush or Bob Dole because George Bush couldn't do the things that Bill Clinton could do to hurt workers.
For instance, NAFTA.
George Bush I tried to pass NAFTA.
He couldn't get the blue dog Democrats to go along with him.
Bill Clinton gets elected.
He gives them cover now because he's a southerner, he's a blue, and he's the president.
So he gives them cover.
And then they get it done.
They passed a NAFTA, which takes the legs out from beneath the unions for a generation.
And then he guts welfare at the same time as he then does the deregulation of Wall Street, which again led to the economic shutdown of our country 10 years later.
And who got hurt the worst?
Not the millionaires and billionaires, but against the poor and workers, right?
Jimmy, so you're pro-union.
Yeah.
Now, the problem with the unions in the United States is that I don't think that, I mean, I'm not a specialist.
I mean, I've been in a couple of unions myself, but I'm not a specialist on unions, but it looks like they're corrupted and they're part of the professional managerial team.
Of course, yeah.
They don't really part of the camp.
Yeah.
They're also bought.
I know.
So for you to say you're pro-union, so again, for me, Jimmy, I...
But Kirstjen Small's union is a great union.
There's lots of unions there.
You need unions.
You definitely need unions.
I mean, if you don't have union, I mean, Jesus Christ, look at what's happened to the freaking railroad workers just now.
They won't even give them freaking sick days and they have a union and the government comes in and crushes their union because they were going to win that strike.
And that's why that government had to do that.
And that's real fascism, by the way.
If you would, because I generally don't have the answer on unions.
I don't think it's all good or all bad.
If you could have this discussion, what are the pros and cons of unions?
You probably are going to take the cons perspective, no?
So, okay, so my opinion is these things start with good intentions.
But this is the challenge, Amy.
And when you mentioned the lady earlier, and then Vinny said, should they have their own money?
And he said, well, she doesn't have money, but I don't think she can be bought.
Let me tell you, okay?
And I'll give you an analogy.
Maybe this will make sense to you.
Are you married?
Yeah.
How long have you been married?
10, 12, 13 years.
Okay.
So were you good with the ladies when you were younger?
I'm assuming you were because you're good with you can talk.
I had some girlfriends.
Okay, but you weren't shy amongst girls.
So I want you to think about this here.
So imagine if a guy is not good with girls, okay?
And he's only been with one his entire life, and he's now 35 and he's not married, but he's only been with one, okay?
He's just horrible with girls.
But all of a sudden at 35, you know, he's now married and he's got a couple of kids.
And now he becomes super famous and he starts making a lot of money.
And he becomes the best whatever, you know, coder at his company.
And he joins Snapchat and there's an exit and he makes $35 million.
Okay.
Okay.
So all the girls that were working at Snapchat now are coming up to him.
Oh my God, Bobby, you're such a great coder.
Man, I love, can we go for a drink?
He's like, I've never had this experience before.
Damn, one, shit, two, oh, my God, three.
That was cool.
Dude, left and right.
Okay.
If you're a guy and you've never had play, then all of a sudden you get a lot of attention.
You don't know how to handle it.
That's correct.
Okay.
The same to me goes with money.
If you're a politician, you've never made money, you become a politician, and you all of a sudden want to do the right thing, then Pfizer knocks on the door.
Most of the time, you're for sale.
Okay.
If you're a union worker, you're creating the union for the right reasons, then the people with money show up and say, hey, Mr. Jimmy Gaffa, or whatever your name is, okay?
Hey, you know, or this union leader we got that's leading such and such.
Here's what we're going to do.
We think you're underpaid.
Okay.
Let's strike up a deal and we're willing to do XYZ for you.
But we'll do this and we'll give you more power and you'll be locked in for 10 years, 15 years with this position, but we'll give you XYZ money.
That's the problem with a lot of these politicians and union leaders.
They start off with good and then they're for sale because they've never experienced real money before.
What do you think?
Well, I don't, I've seen it happen, right?
So I think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying for sure.
We've seen it happen.
I don't know what it is.
Like we just saw they get book deal.
Like for instance, I'm focused on the squad, right?
Because those are supposed to be the people who don't take corporate money.
They're supposed to be the people, you know, standing up to the establishment inside government.
They're not doing it.
And so, but they get book deals, right?
Like Corey Bush just got a book deal.
I think she's, you know, I don't know how many tens of thousands of dollars she got for that, but she probably sold two books.
So, I mean, that's how they get people.
So you're right, right?
So they do get people.
But I think there are people who could stand up against it.
I think RFK stood up against it.
There you go.
The forerunner story of pain and perseverance in America was released on October 4th.
The publisher paid Bush and anti-police socialist who stoked BLM rights in 2020 in advance of $50,000.
Bush's financial disclosure reports show.
Corey Bush.
Wow.
And it sold 729 copies in its first week.
Crushing it.
Crushing it.
Corey Bush.
$50,000.
We might have just helped her sell a couple more copies.
It's a lot of fun.
It's correct.
That's a book deal.
For $7.29?
That's a lot of people.
I've never written a book.
That's a lot of money.
I wrote a book.
I got a book deal.
And I had a great manager at the time.
So he knew how to get me a good deal.
And I think I got the last good deal you could get without being super famous.
So my manager at the time was this guy, Alex Murray.
He's a great manager.
And he got me, I don't know.
He worked it out.
He got me $20,000 advance for my book.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, that is amazing, man.
I don't know how to write a book.
I can't even read.
You're like, I don't even know.
Imagine book comes up.
367 spelling errors in here, but it's awesome.
You know, it's an awesome book.
Anyways, so let's go to a completely different topic.
Let's go to a completely different topic.
I just want to get you.
This could be a little bit of, you know, for we're going to have fun with this one, but I want to see what you say about this.
Did you see the Chelsea Handler clip about what it is to be single?
Have you seen this one or no?
Oh, this is since you haven't seen it.
I'm going to enjoy this even more.
Do you have it, Robert?
Okay, right there.
So we're going to get the original OG reaction of Jimmy.
Have you seen this, Adam, or no?
No.
Phenomenal.
Both of you enjoyed this.
So here's the benefit of being a childless woman.
This is the day in the life of a childless woman.
Watch this.
Day in the life of a childless woman.
I wake up at 6 a.m.
I remember that I have no kids to take to school.
So I take an edible, masturbate, and go back to sleep.
I wake up at 12:30 p.m. and get ready for a busy day of doing whatever the fk I feel like.
I put on my most impractical and stylish shoes since I won't be chasing a child around the grocery store.
I go to my fave spot in Paris to grab a croissant.
I do a meditation sesh on the plane since I have no screaming kids, allowing me all the time in the world to become enlightened.
The weightlessness of my existence has granted me superhuman powers.
I teleport myself back home.
Then I get ready for a night out with whatever hot guy I met on Raya that morning.
I call up a babysitter and tell her that I don't need her since I still don't have kids.
Now it's time for a workout.
So I hit Mount Everest for a quick climb.
I invent a time machine, go back in time, and kill Hitler.
Crazy bastard.
It's amazing what you can do when you have this much free time.
And that's a day in the life of a childless woman.
She looked unhappy.
Well, she doesn't have a job either, apparently.
Right?
I mean, I just got triggered.
But, Jimmy, from you guys watching Adam, I think she's really sad.
Like, she doesn't look that smile isn't like a real I felt the same way.
Do you feel that?
Like, I'm like, she looks like she's hurting.
Yes.
Let me tell you one thing.
Wow.
I agree with one thing she did in that entire fucking video.
She went back and killed Hitler.
Okay.
Good for you.
Yeah, that's good.
Let me tell you the problem with ladies like this.
By the way, can we just pull up her age real quick?
I'm guessing late 40s.
No, what do you mean?
I said, I was going to say I'm guessing 40-ish.
52.
What do we got?
Give me an age.
52.
47.
She's 47.
All right, so I was off by a year.
Here's the problem.
A few years ago, when she was 42, 43, and she kind of still had her looks, and she was allegedly banging 50 Cent.
And this sex in the city, I do what I want to do.
I could go where I want to go.
That was cute.
When you're 50 and no dude, this hot dude you meet on Raya, they're not going to exist anymore for you, Chelsea.
Period.
And the problem is this: it's like for every one Chelsea handler that thinks this way, there's a million 50-year-old women that were fed this bullshit that are like, fuck you, Chelsea Handler, for me and for indoctrinating me.
I watched Sex in the City.
I was told I don't need no man.
I was told that I can just do what I want to do and gallivant off to Paris and jerk off in the middle of the day and have fun and have my wine.
It's like, let me tell you what's going to end up with those women at the end of the day.
They're going to be non-married, no kids, 17 cats, 14 dildos, a couple different vibrators, and sad AF.
This is not a good business model for you to live your life off of whatsoever for women.
Dildo come up with a lot of people.
Show this to women, yes.
Yeah, but I mean, and I get it, Jimmy.
We get this is it's a comedy and she's being funny and stuff, but I see real pain and there's something missing.
I also felt pain.
I felt pain, bro.
I did her smile.
It was like a hostage video.
Yeah, because imagine she's going to be 50-something.
Yeah, she's going to have the cats and all this stuff.
But I mean, I think deep down inside, you want to have some kids.
I would like to have, I didn't have kids, so I missed that.
When I was supposed to have kids, I was doing comedy and then I got not too late for you, Jimmy.
It is.
You want to adopt Vinny?
Take Vinny.
It is too late.
But I don't have any.
So I would like to, I was thinking of adopting, right?
China, what made you go with this Chelsea handler?
I mean, we've been talking about this.
What a waste of a life.
Yeah.
What a waste of a life.
And, you know, for somebody that buys into that life, a miserable, lonely life, everything in life to me that has value is stuff that outlives me and it's great relationships.
And that takes a long time.
That takes a very, very long time.
Again, if you've been through the fast life and you've gone through it, where it's like another one and another one and another one.
And you and I were having this conversation regularly where I'm like, look, how many more you want to do?
You know, how many more you want to go through?
You know, what else are you going to be doing?
This is a hero to who.
You know, what that reminded me of is when I wanted to have a kid and I was talking to my wife about adopting, and I just kept having the same idea in my head was the reason why I want to have a kid is because I want to stop thinking about myself 24 hours a day.
I'd like to put my energy into loving something else and building something else up.
And that's, she was, I mean, of course, it's a comedy sketch.
Yeah, we got that.
Yeah.
But, you know, that seems like the opposite of that.
So just think about it.
It's just, that's the problem I think I'm experiencing with not having kids is I spend too much time thinking about myself.
I'll give you a complete opposite side for you to be thinking about.
Okay.
Thank God she didn't have any kids.
Okay.
Because the world would have two or three more Chelsea handlers.
Okay.
To me would have changed her.
But I don't disagree.
But here's the part as well.
I think too many of the we talked about this on the last podcast.
I think I was in Orlando yesterday and in Vegas yesterday.
I gave a talk in Orlando and then I gave a talk in Vegas and then I flew back last night.
And the group I spoke to in Orlando in Vegas, my message was about some of you guys got to choose to start having four, five, six, seven, eight kids.
Not just one or two.
I'm dead serious with you.
I'm telling you, I think the right parents need to have more kids.
A man named John Morris, who was our chair at Vistage in L.A., great guy, powerful guy.
People know him in Santa Monica, money guy, venture capital guy.
And he was our mentor.
He was 60 at the time.
Give or take.
And one day I'm having a conversation with him.
I'd have my monthly one-on-ones with him.
And I said, hey, John, how many kids you got?
He says, two.
I said, wow.
Why two?
You know, you think you made the right choice with two?
He says, biggest mistake of my life.
I said, really?
Two kids?
Biggest mistake?
He says, biggest mistake of my life.
I said, why is that?
He says, the moment I got good at being a parent, I stopped having kids.
Tell me what thing in life do you stop doing after you become great at it?
Biggest mistake.
We should have had four more kids.
He got me thinking.
I came home, I sold that.
I told that to Jim.
My idea was I want to have five to 10 kids is what I wanted to have.
We ended up with four.
We were supposed to have five twins.
Good.
You know, one didn't make it, but, you know, God's blessed us in a great way and life is.
Your regular Alec Baldwin.
Huh?
Your regular Alec Baldwin.
Is that what it is?
Well, he's got like seven kids now.
Oh, dude, I would have 20 kids.
I'm telling you right now, I would have 20 kids if I had them my way.
But, you know, it's a different life.
But also at the same time, there's a part where it's like, good for you for not having one.
Because let's just say if she did have a kid, she probably would do it out of wedlock and she would probably sell the same exact philosophies to her.
And that kid's probably going to be living the same exact life as well as she is and doing what she's doing.
So I don't know.
This message, unfortunately, is going to inspire some people.
For every Andrew Tate, you have to have a Chelsea handler.
Have to.
The extreme arguments of both sides, let them hash it out and debate it and then see who's going to come up, you know, long-term winning.
I don't even know.
Can I add to that with the Andrew Tate?
Number one, I don't think this is breaking news.
Ironically, Andrew Tate does have kids.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, like, and he's advocating having kids.
So here's the problem I have with this.
Can you imagine if some dude was like, yep, not having kids, just me just pouring in on the pussy.
Y'all, just, I'm out there making my money.
No kids, no wife.
I'm just driving my cars.
I don't want no kid weighing me down.
I'm going to Paris.
I'm having fun.
I'm jerking off all day.
Saying that as a guy, dude, you just got canceled.
What are you talking about?
What are you saying right now?
No guy could say what she's saying.
And here's the harm with Chelsea.
He just can't say that.
Vinny, you go out and say that.
Let's joke.
I'm finished.
Here's the problem with Chelsea.
For every one Chelsea handler that does this for attention, clearly, it's not like she's saying this in the mirror every day and she's got 10 and a half million views on Twitter.
So she's doing sense.
She's a marketer.
It's a freak show.
But for every one Chelsea's handler doing this to get views, there's a lady named Debbie in Ohio that's like, yeah, you tell him, Chelsea.
And there's a lady named Maggie in Florida and Rebecca in California that's living that life and they're crying on the inside because they're living Chelsea's life that's romanticized of being just this selfish individual succumbing to all your individual needs.
Well, it's not attractive when a guy does it.
That's why that guy doesn't come around gallivanting like this.
And it's even less attractive when a woman does it.
Maybe I was projecting onto her.
Who knows?
Like, maybe, you know, I said her smile didn't look real.
Maybe it is real.
And maybe I'm projecting because I feel bad about myself not having kids.
But Jimmy, maybe that's a good chance.
It's cool when you're a lady and you say that when you're 25.
And it's kind of cool when you're 35.
Not when you're nearly 50.
It's sad and disgusting.
Here's the part that all of us have to deal with.
And we had this conversation with the guy that we love, the world loves.
Rogan?
Not Brogan, our handsome friend.
No, Mike Rowe.
Mike Rowe.
Mike Row.
Mike Row was here.
You know, I'm thinking of handsome men.
By the way, Mike Rowe, you know, 60, never married, never had kids.
Never married, never.
And that good looking of a guy like he is like an all-around American guy that a girl would want to be with.
He's straight?
He's straight.
I think he's straight.
I would have to say he is straight.
I don't know personally, but I would say he is straight.
Okay.
You know, one conversation we had at the end of the video.
Chris is like a straight guy.
I'll turn it over.
There you go.
Impressive.
Impressive.
And that's what matters.
Here's the part.
Here's the part.
We're all salespeople.
When somebody tells me, I can't sell, I've never been good in sales, bullshit.
You've been selling for your entire life on whatever the lies you believe in or whatever the truths you believe in.
You're a salesperson, okay?
You can sell anything you want to other people as if you're happy with the decision you made.
But then you have to be by yourself.
And when you're by yourself, only one person knows if you're happy with the decision you made.
Chelsea's selling that life.
But by the way, if she's by herself, she's 100% fully happy with the decision she made.
Guess what?
More power to you.
I'm just not convinced she is.
No.
That's the only thing.
So let's go to the next story.
Let's go from Chelsea into DeMar Hamlin.
Yep.
Which we've all seen that hit.
We've all seen the fall.
We've all seen the jacket.
At this point, the Super Bowl, he came and apologized and he talked to his mom and dad and he says, look, this is not something I support.
I was just being fashionable.
So I'm not even talking about the jacket.
But he had an interview with Michael Strahan.
And by the way, I can't believe Michael Strahan actually asked the question.
I love him.
Did you see that?
The fact that he asked it.
And the fact that ABC was okay with him asking it.
ABC has to prove all the questions you ask.
I know.
But he asked the question.
That's the establishment.
Here's what the question was, and look at the answer that DeMar Hamlin gave.
Go ahead.
The question on so many minds: what caused his heart to stop beating?
You're 24, peak physical condition.
Could run circles around me right now.
How did doctors describe what happened to you?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Do I do it or do I not?
That's something I want to stay away from.
I mean, from my deposit.
By the way, Michael didn't go and say why.
The obvious follow-up question as an interview.
And he's a great interviewer.
You're supposed to ask what?
Here's a question.
Do you think the why was asked, but ABC cut it?
That's a good question.
Do you think the why?
Michael is a great interviewer.
Well, he asked that first.
By the way, go back 10 seconds.
Look how abrupt it is.
Go back 10 seconds and look how immediately it goes into that.
It doesn't make sense.
Play the clip again.
What do you think is going in his mind?
That's something I want to stay away from.
I know from my experience.
I don't believe.
I believe that's an edit.
I agree.
I believe Michael asked the why and they cut it.
I agree.
We know about editing around here.
Yes, that's an edit.
And Peck, I say one thing, and a lot of people don't understand.
Obviously, this is my opinion, like we always say.
It has to do something about either he had COVID or the vaccine, which nobody has said if he said it or not.
I want to say, Pfizer is one of the biggest donors to the NFL.
You know, they're right, $120 million.
So over $120 million.
Rob, you can look it up.
And mind you, Jimmy, when you go after somebody like that, big pharma.
Are we done with the video, by the way?
Yes.
Well, yeah, look what they did with James O'Keefe.
James O'Keefe had that guy talking shit about them mutating this virus.
What happened to James O'Keefe one week later?
They made an example of him.
They made an example of him.
Number one.
Number two, a study.
This is Smith Hart Institute study just showed that heart attacks and deaths from 2000 to 2022 are up 30% from ages 25 to 44 years old.
It's all going up.
And Rob, I was going to send you the link on it.
It's a Heart Institute study.
Pfizer does not play games.
And their CEO, I forgot where I said.
Albert Burla.
Albert Burla was doing a speech on one of those world that can, one of those forums where they just sit on stage and spew bullshit.
He was like, we have all these vaccines, because, you know, with vaccine hesitancy, we have all these vaccines that nobody's, we got to find a way to get people more motivated to take this thing.
It's all money, bro.
It's insane that you saw fear.
Did you see the fear where I saw the wheels turning in his head?
And the wheels were, do I tell people the truth or do I know that I was told to shut the hell up and don't say anything?
Because my career is.
Well, obviously he's been coached to not talk about that in a certain way.
And he was like, well, what can I say and not jeopardize whatever the deal is I was given?
So, I mean, that's, if you can watch that and not have red flags going off all over the place, then you're, you know, you're brain dead.
But the thing is, people would say, well, the increase in heart attacks are from COVID because COVID got heart attacks.
Although they did a huge study, the Israeli study said it didn't.
So the point, it does.
My thing is around COVID and the vaccines is like, for the first time in my lifetime, we weren't allowed to question anything at all.
And if you did, you were a white supremacist and a Trumper.
And it was the crazy.
I mean, I'm like, no, I just want to get informed.
And you know what they would say?
They go, please don't do your own research.
You know, before COVID, don't do your own research.
They would say, don't.
I'd see comedians on stage in Los Angeles saying that.
Folks, please don't do your own research.
You know, before COVID, doing your own research just meant reading.
And now they've shamed reading.
That's how big pharma has gotten people.
It's like I woke up in the middle of a Bill Hitch bit.
Well, it looks like we got ourselves a reader.
Oh, one of them old fashioned people.
What are you reading for, boy?
Don't you know everything that needs to be read has already been read by a scientist?
In the Bible.
The Bible said it was true.
You wouldn't tell that to anybody else.
This is what I say.
It's like, if I was going to go buy a car, you would go, hey, don't look into it.
Well, how am I supposed to know what car to do?
Don't you do one of them car fact things now, Jimmy?
That's driving my ass.
Ask the salesman.
He's the expert.
What are you, Henry Ford?
And Jimmy Cochin.
I mean, people who have question authority bumper stickers told you to just shut up and stop asking questions about the vaccine.
That's crazy.
And it's not.
People who still think we haven't landed on the moon and Elvis is still alive won't question the vaccine.
It's the craziest thing.
The biggest skeptics are supposed to be comedians and cynics.
They totally dropped the ball on this.
And I hope I never go through something like this again.
And, you know, just look, just look what happened with ivermectin, right?
How they can make everybody in the country still to this day think it's some kind of poisonous drug that's bad for you instead of what it actually is, a wonder drug.
You know, they were looking at it to cure cancer before COVID.
And the way I found out, the way I found out that they were lying about everything about COVID was I got vaccine injured and I got put into a study, right?
So these doctors put me in a study and their theory was that the vaccine gave me long COVID symptoms and they showed me, I had to go to a special place, get a blood test, and they showed me my biological markers were exactly like somebody who had long COVID, except I never had COVID.
So then they gave me these drug cocktails.
It was a zithromyosin, ivermectin, fluvoxamine.
There's a couple other things.
All the good stuff.
And I said, hey, that ivermectin, man, that's that horse poison, right?
And the guy, my doctor is like, Jimmy, and he told me all that stuff.
He says, before COVID, this was considered a wonder drug.
It's safer than aspirin.
It saved billions of lives.
The reason why they're doing that is because it's been shown to be able to treat COVID in the lab.
And that if it can treat COVID, they can't get their emergency use authorization for their vaccines.
And so that's why they had to say that about hydroxychloroquine.
And they had to say the same thing about ivermectin.
And that's a fact.
That's why.
And so now we know that's a lie and people just ignore it like as if it never happened.
Or how about when they the new lie is, well, we never said the vaccine would stop transmission and contraction.
No, of course you did.
I got video after video.
But people don't want to know that.
It went from 100 to 90 to 80 to like, hey, give it a shot.
So when I got vaccine injured, I found out they were lying about masks.
They were lying about herd immunity.
They were lying about natural immunity.
They were lying about transmission.
They were lying about contraction.
And they were lying about funding the virus, the research that led to it.
They were lying about where it came from.
And if you said it came from a lab, you're a white supremacist racist.
Racist China virus you hate.
Yeah.
Do you think they're going to investigate it?
Do you think they're going to go through and investigate?
Who are they going to get to investigate it?
You know what I mean?
They're all part of it, right?
So it's going to take a real...
Well, Rand Paul's not a...
Rand Paul will challenge it.
And he...
Rand Paul did.
He stood up against Fauci.
Fauci lied to Rand Paul, which is lying to Congress twice.
He asked him if he funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab.
He said no twice.
And then the NIH said, you know what?
We actually did do it.
Fauci's lying.
And Jimmy, we talked about this on the last podcast.
They'll never be held accountable.
Never.
But I would literally pay, like, I started a GoFundMe page for millions and millions of bucks, Jimmy, just because, you know, lie detector tests are only admissible in court.
They're not admissible in court.
They're not admissible.
I'm saying.
But you know what?
They're admissible to the public.
If you want to prove to these assholes like Fauci or Hilly or any of them, we'll have this big fund.
You come.
We'll ask you the general questions.
But then the one question we'll ask you, Fauci, did you do this?
Hold them accountable.
Dude, take a lie detector test.
You watch the first 48.
They sit on the techniques and go, you want to do a lie detector?
Sit in here.
We don't have to use it in court, but I want to know if you're full of shit.
So there's a lawsuit now, and so Fauci was actually deposed.
And most of the questions, he was like, I don't remember.
Oh, that's all they have to say.
I don't recall.
I don't recall.
Let me ask you guys a question.
I don't want to go full run spiracy rearist here.
We talked about the establishment, but also big tech and big pharma and all their hands and everything.
The CEO of YouTube just stepped down.
Oh, no, did you hear about that?
No, I didn't.
It's been 25 years.
Yeah.
You know, this is the story.
Go ahead.
Right.
So YouTube goes a little bit to the top.
So YouTube CEO Susan Wojkiki.
How do you say her name?
Oh, I love it.
Is stepping down after nearly a decade in that role.
She will be succeeded by Neil Mohan, UTEP's current chief product officer.
And if you go down, by the way, that's a picture of her at the World Economic Forum.
There's establishment, buddy.
They're coming.
She's stepping down from YouTube after nearly a decade in the role.
She said in a blog post Thursday that she plans to focus on her family.
That's what they all say.
Health and personal projects.
She'll have an advisory role at the parent company, Google and Alphabet, which owns YouTube.
Here's the last part.
Neil Mohan, chief product officer, will be the new head of YouTube, according to the blog post.
This is now effective immediately.
The time is right for me, and I'll be able to do this because I have an incredible leadership.
He plays at YouTube, says Miss Ojiki.
Anyway, so she said she's going to do family.
No, what was the third thing she said?
Personal projects.
I think she wants to be a YouTuber next.
I could probably get up there.
Do you think this has any correlation with the heat that's being turned up on these questions?
Because of like the Twitter gate.
Just all the stuff that's kind of coming out, censorship, what's going on, questioning authority.
Do you think this has any relevance?
I mean, I wouldn't doubt it.
But I think I just wanted to make one more point about Fauci is that when, you know, that the Dallas Buyers Club, you remember that movie starring Matthew Matthew Mahaley and Oscar?
I was talking about that earlier.
Well, the bad guy in that movie is Dr. Fauci.
And everybody forgets.
The reason why they had to do the Dallas Buyers Club was because Fauci and the government were keeping drugs that could help people away because they only wanted to push the drugs that were approved by big pharma.
And that's why they had to do the goddamn Dallas Buyers Club.
The same shit they did with AIDS, they're doing with COVID.
The same shit.
And why did they do it with COVID?
Because they got away with it.
And they're going to get away with it.
And they're always going to get away with it.
And we also learned in a podcast, I believe, with Zubi, that one of two countries in the world, United States and New Zealand, I believe it was, are the only countries that are allowed to full-on advertise on TV.
And which ones were the craziest on COVID?
New Zealand, right?
Oh, my God.
Australia.
Australia was the numero uno.
But Australia, they were like, you are getting...
They were going to people's house.
Remember?
Yes.
People out there fucking houses, like, get out.
You have to stay in your house.
Australia, they'd send you to a camp.
But let me ask you, let's give maybe the American people credit for a second.
Just for a second.
Do you think that most people, not all, because there's going to be people that sort of were like, you know what?
Whatever just happened with COVID and these lockdowns and these mandates and can't say this and zip it up and shut your mouth and get in line, that it's almost like fool me once, you know, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Like people have sort of woken up to like, all right, this authoritarian, you know, mandates, it ain't happening again.
Do you want to give the American people a little bit of credit that they won't let that happen?
I don't.
Or do you think that we're all just fucking sheep and we're all just falling?
I live in California.
They just passed a law.
Super majority Democrats in the legislature with a Democratic governor.
And they just passed a law that restricts doctors from practicing medicine if they go against whatever big pharma says about COVID.
There you go.
That they'll fine them.
So that's a chill.
You're not supposed to do that.
That's authoritarian.
And everybody just let it happen.
Now a judge.
They call it Comifornia.
Now a judge has stopped it, right?
But that's California.
I mean, that's establishment.
The judge.
I'm part of the establishment.
So, which way is it, Jimmy?
Thank God, that judge, right?
But you did see the stats.
We've been kind of making fun of it for a few years now that Gavin Newsom is the U-Haul employee of the year.
But stats just came out just in the middle.
About people leaving people have left California to get the hell out of there.
Texas, Vegas, Tennessee, Florida, the whole deal.
The stats are out there.
I don't know, Rob, if you want to pull that up.
I just out yesterday.
I got the phone call.
We were talking about earlier.
My mom called me about a dozen and a half eggs, and she said something like $20 some dollars.
And I was like, she's a little older.
I go, Mom, you mean like 15?
Like, not, it can't be.
She goes, Vinny, she sent me a picture.
A dozen and a half eggs were in the 20.
And I'm like, no way.
How much is I'm not joking?
How much is gas a gallon Cali average?
I think it's around five or six bucks.
I think it's six bucks, maybe.
It got up to eight, but I think it came down, and now it's around five or six bucks.
Unbelievable.
How the hell do people survive in California?
No, but I want to know.
They spend most of their money on housing.
Like in California, you're supposed to spend 30% of your income.
30% of your gross income.
I think in California, it's 50%.
Yeah, then how do you have money for car payments?
I don't know.
Food and beverage.
Going down for OnlyFans and selling drugs.
You know, you know, what's going to happen is, you know, you're supposed to give or take 10% of your paycheck to put it into a retirement fund.
Whatever.
How many people in California, they're just living 50% on the house, food and beverage, car payments.
Yeah, everyone has to have a car in California.
They're going to retire with zero dollars in their bank account when they go to retire.
It's going to be an ugly situation.
Well, let me ask.
So you know everything.
I don't know anything about money.
You know what you should do since you don't know about money?
Get your own podcast.
What do you tell people about it?
You got $20,000 advance on a book.
What do you mean you don't know?
You're blowing up.
Gaming the system.
So I put my retirement, I didn't want to put it in the stock market.
So I put it in an annuity, and everybody's like, you're stupid for putting in an annuity.
But now the stock market's going to.
So then I did.
I started putting it in a 401k, but that's going to crash now, right?
Well, it'll come back up.
You think?
Long term or short term?
You think long term it'll become back?
It always does.
How do you know?
Because we're going to lose the petrodollar right now.
That's what the so Joe Biden's shenanigans in China and Russia is going to screw the petrol dollar down.
I'm just going to stop here right now.
What are you talking about right now?
So you think that's going to affect the entire stock market for unbelievable.
I'll tell you.
So if you don't know what the petrol dollar is, I'll explain it.
So in the 70s, Nixon took us off the gold standard.
And so he went to the petrol dollar, which was we guaranteed or we promised the use of our military to Saudi Arabia wherever they wanted it, which is why we're committing a genocide in Yemen.
In exchange for that, if you were going to buy oil from Saudi Arabia, any other country in the world, they'd had to change their money into U.S. dollars.
And so then they could buy the oil in U.S. dollars.
And that's called the petrol dollar.
Now, what does that do?
It makes every country decide, well, I'm going to keep a bunch of U.S. dollars.
And then they just started using it for other stuff, too.
So that's how the U.S. dollar became the reserve currency of the world.
And now, Saudi Arabia, because of the shit we're doing with Russia, and China, they're starting to sell oil in other denominations than the U.S. dollar.
They're sending it to China, right?
China's, what is it called?
The one?
The one.
And they're sending, I think, I think India, maybe even Italy.
Is this the brick thing that you're constantly hearing?
And then the BRICS thing's happening.
So there's a shift that is going to happen because of American imperialism and hegemony.
And when we are no longer the reserve currency, doesn't our economy collapse?
Yeah.
So to me, here's a couple of things you got to think about with that.
You notice earlier when we were talking about our sponsor, Gold, and I give a shout out to them.
And it's like, hey, a small percentage, put it there.
The only way, your age right now, you're 57.
I think I looked at the numbers there.
So you got, I don't know if you're going to be retiring.
It's a different story of retirement today versus you got a YouTube channel.
That's the best annuity you got, by the way.
The AdSense that's going to be paying you, it's not, your 401k doesn't compare to your YouTube channel that you have.
That's the ultimate AdSense.
If you do it right, sponsorship, you're doing it right with Patreon, all that stuff.
Having said that, let's just say you are an average guy that doesn't have a YouTube thing and you are dealing with a 401k.
It depends on what age you want to retire.
It depends on your risk tolerance.
It depends on all of that stuff.
But this is one way of looking at it.
The whole climate change argument, okay, when AOC gets up and says, you know, the world's coming to an end in 12 years.
And then your best friend, the girl you like the most, Greta, Greta, who just coming out with a new book.
I'm sure you ordered it.
My best friend.
I love her.
So Greta's got a new book coming up about climate change.
The best way to gauge if these things are real, climate change, is go talk to actuaries who run these big insurance companies whose jobs is to protect a billion dollars.
Because one thing insurance companies hate is to pay out money.
They do not like paying out any of their money.
And, you know, you know this long term, they don't have a challenge with what's going to happen with the market, with climate change.
If they did, they would be investing in different places.
The whole real estate on the water, what's going to happen with homes in Florida, if it's that bad, why are insurance companies, you know, offering the insurance to these homes on the water?
Or else, is it going to be an issue 100 years from now?
Probably.
Is it going to be an issue 50 years from now?
Probably.
Is it going to be an issue in the next 10, 20 years?
Probably not.
So the actuary's job is to sit there and calculate risk.
Everything's about that.
So the petrodollar, the fiat currency, whatever way we want to put it, could that collapse?
Could America go through the mess they're going through right now if we don't pay our debts?
The biggest, scariest number to be thinking about is the following.
This is the craziest number.
In 2019, we paid $350 billion on interest of our debt.
In 2020, our debt interest payment was half a percent.
We were paying $350 billion.
2021 was 0.1%.
It went lower.
We still pay $350 billion in interest.
2022, last year, our interest went up to 1.9 average.
We paid $460, $4.70.
Here's the crazy part.
Just Q4 of 2022, Jimmy, we paid $213 billion of interest, just Q4, at a 1.9% average.
Right now, we're on a 4.5% to 6% run rate this year.
This will be the first year where America is going to pay over a trillion.
It could be a trillion to a trillion and a half.
We pay in interest in interest, in interest only, in interest only.
You're already, your debt is already climbing heavily.
Now at a trillion dollars of interest and credit card payments in America, credit card debt in America is 943, highest we've ever had it, and savings is declining.
Last month, our savings rate was 2.4%.
We're not saving a lot of money, right?
That's a 17-year low.
Those are the things to really be concerned about on what's going to happen with the market.
Now, what this guy, Jimmy, is trying to do, and Powell's trying to do with the rates, with inflation to try to kind of calm it down.
You know, the more and more and more he keeps increasing it, the more and more and more he keeps increasing it.
Inflation isn't dropping as quickly as people are thinking.
He still has to increase rates.
And there's a story that just came out, which is pretty interesting.
This kind of tells you what's happened to the real estate industry.
This is a Wall Street Journal story about real estate.
If you can pull this one up, and if you can tell me what page this is on, let me find this story.
Okay, here you go.
It's as home sales slow, realtors go back to other jobs.
As home sales slow, realtors go.
This is not like a regular article, Bridebart.
This is Wall Street Journal, right?
So home sales are slowing because of interest rates.
Interest rates.
But wouldn't so wouldn't the home so people still want demand?
But it's not interest rates.
It's a good question you ask.
It's greed.
It's not interest rates.
It's greed.
There's a house in our community that I'm trying to buy for somebody in my family.
Okay.
They're asking 1.29 for it.
They were asking 1.7 million a year and a half ago.
So they went to 1.6, 1.5, 1.4.
Now it's 1.29.
That house is worth $750,000, but they're asking $1.29.
Okay.
So the $1.29 is these families every month or every two months that they lower $100,000, guess what they're starting to realize?
This is not worth $1.7 million anymore.
Okay.
This is probably going to end up selling for $900,000, $800,000.
So it's not interest rates.
High interest rates are giving a reality check to homeowners that are being greedy, thinking, wait for it.
We can sell it for more.
Wait for it.
We can sell it for more.
Wait for it.
We can sell it for more.
And a shit, babe, lower by $100,000.
Lower by $100,000.
So it's greed that's causing these realtors to leave because realtors today don't know how to tell the client, Jimmy, can I tell you something?
Yes, what is it?
You're going to get upset when I tell you this, Jimmy.
What's that?
Your house is not worth $1.5 million.
This is a $900,000 house.
What's the reaction Jimmy's going to have?
You know what?
Now, Jimmy, I'm going to leave.
I'm the realtor.
I'm trying to give some common sense here.
When I leave, guess what Jimmy's wife's going to say?
Babe, fire Patrick immediately.
He's clueless.
Then he's going to call the next realtor and any realtor is going to say what?
Just like any guy says on a date with a girl, I'm going to change your life.
And the realtor is going to say, Patrick has no clue what he's doing.
This is at least a $1.55 million home.
Then you hire that realtor.
Then a realtor 90 days later, guess what that realtor has to tell Jimmy?
Jimmy, I have to break it to you.
This is an $800,000 house.
So it's the relationship between the realtor and the client right now.
That's the conflict.
Realtors don't know how to break it to the client that this house is not worth what you think it's worth.
I don't think it's just the rates.
Can I add one thing real quick?
By the way, when we're talking about the realtors that are going back to other jobs, we're not talking about the top 10% of realtors, top 20%.
We're not even talking about the top 50%.
We're talking about all the guys and gals that saw what was happening in 2020 and like, hold on, let me get on the bandwagon.
And they were cooks, chefs, Uber drivers, whatever, photographers, whatever, and they got their real estate license.
By the way, I did the same thing in 2005 when I saw everybody making money in real estate in Miami.
I'm like, oh, I want to get my real estate license.
Then came 2008 crash.
All right, I'm done being a realtor.
So all these fake flyby night realtors, they're out.
And then it's the people who are experts at this.
It's almost like the people that want to start a podcast.
Everyone's doing a podcast.
Next thing you know, times get tough.
All of a sudden, people drop out of the podcast world.
The people who are in it for longevity and the right reasons are still in it.
So shout out to those realtors.
They're people who are in it for a quick buck.
They're out of it.
So you think I'm okay?
I don't have to worry about where I put my money in.
I think you're just keeping an annuity.
You're good.
Yeah.
For what timeframe?
10 years?
Five years?
Three years?
It's very different.
If you have no plans with your 401k over a 10-year period, maybe look at the allocations, pay attention to it closely.
You don't want to have your stocks in 100% small cap stocks.
I don't know what type of equities you got.
You know, if you got the index and I don't know what kind of annuity, if it was a variable annuity or an index annuity or a fixed annuity, those are three different types of annuities.
You got a straight up fixed and what was the rate they gave you?
So it was 5%, but then after the fees, it actually turns out to be like 3%.
Wasn't there a lockup period?
If you look up an index annuity, what an index annuity does is made for boomers.
An index annuity would be you can get the upside of how to market us up to a percentage.
So they'll say like, hey, if the market does 38%, you're capped at 12%.
But if the market does minus 38%, like 2008, guess what?
You're not losing anything.
You stay at zero.
It stays at zero.
So it gives you the zero to 12.
So an index annuity was designed specifically for boomers, and it gave the best of both worlds, a fixed annuity and a variable annuity.
I feel good about that.
Yeah, so that's a part to look at.
Jimmy, do yourself a favor.
Take all the money, go to Vegas, put it all on black, baby.
What is a self-directed 401k?
What is that?
Where you can choose your allocation strategy?
My brother says he puts it into real estate.
You know, instead of putting it into the stock market, he does a 401k somehow where he puts it into real estate.
Is that possible?
Of course it is.
Yeah.
To REITs.
You can put gold in your 401k.
You can do 100% gold in your 401k.
Really?
Did you hear what Peter Thiel did with his 401k or this Roth II?
He really.
He really became a billionaire.
I mean, he was ours.
But the way he did it, that's not the average person.
Jimmy, if you want some consultation, we have an app called Manect that you use.
You're so funny.
You are funny.
What is that?
I don't get the joke.
By the way, do you know about the AppMonect?
It's a very interesting app Minect.
Here's how Manect works.
You know how many times people DM you and they say, Jimmy, I'd love to talk to you for 15 minutes, man.
Can we get on?
And you're like, dude, I don't have time.
And you also don't want to ask him for the money.
Well, on Minect, it does one of three things.
If a person wants to ask you a question for DM, text response, you'll say it's $100, but you respond back 100%.
If you want to respond with a video, it's 200 bucks.
But if they want to do a 15-minute FaceTime with you, it's $50 a minute.
So you'll have a 15-minute FaceTime with them, $750.
You'll make 80%.
Manette keeps 20%.
So Manect app is made for influencers out there.
Who made that?
It's the guy that's sitting in this room here with you, Manek.
It's our app.
Yeah.
That guy right there.
Thanks, Jimmy.
Did you make that app?
You know how this app got started?
You made it?
Yeah.
This app got started because my lawyer charged me for a seven-minute call.
He charged me 30 minutes.
I called him back.
I said, bro, we had a seven-minute call.
He says, minutes roll up.
I said, what are you worth by the minute?
He says, no lawyer charges by the minute.
I said, I'd love it if there was a company that I can pay lawyers by the minute.
So instead of looking for it, we built a company called Manek.
Really?
Do you have a minute to connect?
Let's Minect on Manek.
So, Jimmy Doerr, if you wanted to do FaceTime with people, you can be up there.
And Jimmy, you could be one of the experts, but if you need help with your fixed annuity or your self-allocation 401k plan, come talk to me.
I'll charge you $100 a minute.
That's funny.
He's so funny.
Are you a financial guy too?
Yes, I am.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I need a financial.
That was the realest thing Jimmy said all day.
You know, it's real when they use this breath.
I need a minute.
So we're at the end of the podcast.
Jimmy, guys, if you enjoy this podcast, give it a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel.
More importantly, Jimmy, if you don't mind laughing.
President.
I wasn't born here.
But he is a veteran.
I wasn't born here.
I mean, shouldn't that exit out?
He's a veteran on the street.
I think we should maybe get rid of that law.
I think so, too.
Do we have your vote, Jimmy?
Yeah.
I would vote for Pat.
Okay, listen.
Self-funded, courage.
Turn the list for this.
Turn the list around.
Okay, don't need corporate money.
Honest, integrity is not for sale, has zero money, thick skin, courage, compassion, conviction.
Come on.
Thick skin.
It's a good list.
It's there.
It's a good list.
By the way, before we leave today, next week's a pretty big, we got a pretty big show.
Do we want to talk about it all?
Oh, shit.
Next week's shit.
Holy shit.
What are you talking about?
Holy shit.
Can we talk about that?
I spend $20 million on a shirt and shoes.
Jimmy, what time's your flight?
What time are you leaving after this?
Today?
Yeah.
My flight's at 3.30.
I think.
Okay, perfect.
So you know what?
So you got any plans for lunch or no?
No.
Okay.
So you'll come with us, but I want to show you what we built.
We bought this building and it was sitting there for a year.
My dad said, buy this building.
You're not going to find a building this close to your house.
I bought it.
We have no clue what to do with it.
We got an idea.
I don't even know how long ago this idea was.
Six months ago, something like that.
And I said, listen, why don't we turn it into a comedy club?
So we turned it into a comedy club.
Live events everywhere.
Then, then I said, why don't we created it for a studio where any podcaster can come?
We put a 16-foot TV, LED TV, and it'll have your logo, your brand, Jimmy Dorsey, whatever.
And you got your four or five guests that are there, and you got 300 guests watching to do a live podcast.
So we set that up.
And then last week, we had our first private event there, and we built a high-end cigar lounge in the same exact building.
So you come in, there's a humidor, there's a bar, there's pool, there's a, what do you call it, poker table, domino table, private boardroom in the back, but it's only by invitation.
I'll show you that when we go to it.
And we're doing our first ever live event next week.
Is that really next week?
That is how we're so lucky.
And it's six days, PBD.
That is six days.
And he has a Cuban guy in there right now just pumping out cigars.
Anyways, hey, Jimmy, people loved you.
Oh, that's great.
To say they, would you agree, Rob?
Understatement.
Oh, yeah.
Understatement.
The chat exploded.
Really liked you.
And views that we haven't seen in quite some time.
They loved you, man.
They loved you.
They loved you.
You're amazing.
You're awesome.
It's great having you on.
Thanks for watching.
Looking forward to doing this again.
If you want to give your last plug for the event you're doing in February, this Sunday in Washington, D.C., Lincoln Memorial, we're doing an A Rage Against the War Machine.
It's a rally.
Ron Paul will be there.
Chris Hedges, Tulsi Gabbard, me, a lot of people will be there.
Can you put the link in chat in the description, folks?
Go look it up.
This is the website here.
This Sunday, NDC, Libertarian Party, People's Party, all coming together in D.C. Go see Jimmy and others that are going to be there.
