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8:59 - Patrick Bet-David Explains How to Transform Your Life in 2023
19:49 - Reaction To Disney Stock Nearing 50-Year LOW
41:37 - Why does Joe Rogan have a beef with Dwayne Johnson?
51:01 - Reaction to $1.7 trillion government spending bill
1:02:52 - Reaction to Elon Musk calling ESG a scam
1:16:33 - Why Bill Maher is an important voice in today’s society
1:25:35 - Reaction To Elon Musk Stepping Down As CEO Of Twitter
1:44:02 - Reaction To Kellyanne Conway Having Dinner With Andrew Cuomo
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Value payment, giving values contagious.
This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to hate it.
Ideally running, homie, look what I become.
I'm the one.
All right.
So, okay, this will be the last podcast we're doing till Christmas.
Excited to spend some time with you guys.
Home team, Adam, Tom Bizdock, and Vinny in the house.
Malik is here as well.
It's great to have you, Malik.
Fantastic.
It's always great to have Malik here with us.
The real Malik.
Look, a lot's been going on.
It's been a crazy minute here.
I think Zelensky is going to talk today to Congress or something like that.
Coming to meet Biden.
We have Twitter.
Musk announced he's stepping down as CEO.
He's looking for CEO crazy enough to run Twitter.
We'll talk about that.
More stuff coming out from Twitter files.
What else is it?
Black Adam, apparently, they're not renewing this new guy named James.
What's his name?
James Gunn.
I think his name is James Gunn.
He's not bringing in Dwayne Johnson.
And they're saying some of this stuff is rock cost Henry.
How do you say his last name?
Henry Cavill.
Henry Cavill, his job, Superman.
There's a lot of them.
I'm not wrong.
Yeah.
Jim Cavill.
We're going to talk a little bit.
You got Wells Fargo paying another multi-billion dollar fine.
Argentina, everything that's going on there.
Yeah, what happened with something big happened with Argentina last week?
They did something good.
They won the World Cup.
They did something.
Something happened.
The soccer tournament.
Yeah.
And Messi almost got his head chopped off because he was on top of the bus and they hit a telephone pole.
You know, it's the craziest record he broke.
Like, there's so many records he broke, but he broke the record for the most liked post ever on Instagram.
And the previous record was Ronaldo.
Oh, from 45 million to 64 million likes.
His post.
That is insane to get that big of a number.
We'll talk about that.
Something's going on with Epic Games.
Agrees to pay $520 million over FTC investigations into Fortnite privacy violations.
Tom's got some content on that.
Bad people.
Disney stock on its way to its worst year since 1974 after Avatar's sequel disappoints and a little bit of it has to do with China.
Cuban had a few things to say about Elon Musk.
Twitter's new guidelines won't allow certain promotions.
That's pissing a lot of fans off on Twitter.
Anyways, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
But let me know.
There was some big news overnight that I found out.
What's that?
What's this?
I mean, I can't believe everything that I see on Facebook, especially what's going on these days.
But allegedly, it's someone's birthday today.
Allegedly, it is your sister's birthday.
What is this?
Paulette?
Is it Paulette's birthday?
Is this fake news?
Today's Paulette's birthday.
Oh, happy birthday, Paulette.
Happy birthday.
Paulette.
I saw this pop up on Facebook.
I said, is this real?
You should text her right now.
I'm like, we're live and we're giving you a freaking birthday.
We're going to sing Tavalo to Paulette and Farsi.
She's actually watching right now.
Really?
We're going to sing Tavalo.
I love them.
Every time I see Paulette, what is it?
Hey, Paulette, everybody here live's got something to say.
Go ahead.
Hey, Paulette.
Happy birthday.
I saw it on Facebook.
That's happy birthday in Farsi for all you people.
Happy birthday, Paulette.
I will see you in two hours at the airport.
Every time I see Paulette, every time she says the same thing, you're growing on me.
You're growing.
I love it.
She said, just next thing you know, like a bacteria, algae, I'm just going to take over.
Where do we want to go?
I want to go.
She says when she doesn't want to curse.
But anyway.
Where do we want to go with this?
We got a lot of stuff to get into.
I'm just trying to see what direction to go.
You know, yesterday I had David Rubenstein on, the founder of Carlisle Group.
They manage around $400 billion of money.
What's crazy is Jerome Powell worked for him for seven years before he became the Fed chair.
At Carlisle Group?
Jerome Powell was at Carlis Group.
Seven years, yeah.
$400 billion?
$400 billion they manage.
It's so interesting.
He sits on Duke's.
He's the chairman of the board for Duke, chairman of the board for Smithsonian.
The amount of things he's done, the amount of money he's given Kennedy sent so many different things that he's done.
But it was very interesting talking to him about, you know, certain investing and, you know, how the market looks at the experts.
I challenge him on some of the things on how much American people have lost trust in experts.
And then today he says everybody wants to be a podcaster.
What's interesting about his story is he's the first billionaire ever to start a podcast.
Really?
First billionaire to start a podcast.
Not first YouTuber to become a billionaire.
He's the first billionaire to start a podcast.
And he interviews people like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon.
He's got some of the best interviews out there in the area of business.
And he's got this new book that came out called How to Invest.
But I thought it was just very interesting with certain topics.
He's got very close relationship with Joe Biden.
Joe Biden was at his Nantucket house for Thanksgiving, staying over.
They weren't together.
He made that very clear.
Yeah, he said, I wasn't there.
I just lent him.
I just gave him the keys.
I just gave him the keys.
And they all have to yourself.
Yeah.
And then, you know, some of the conversation about Jimmy Carter years ago that he was a part of because he started off being part of Jimmy Carter to where he's at today.
It's just a all I can say is it's very interesting how that world views things differently sometimes than the average person that's dealing with the level of skepticism in mainstream media.
And, you know, he said that, you know, nowadays there's so many different podcasters.
People don't know who to trust.
People don't know who to do this.
You know, Tom, you sound like you want to say something.
Go ahead.
No, I was saying, yeah.
And I was also impressed by what he said about his kids.
He said, all my kids got their MBA and they're launching successfully.
They don't need a billion dollar each.
And I was one of the original signers on the giving pledge.
So he's given it all away to things, which I have a lot of respect, building it up and then giving it away to all the needs that he sees in society.
Don't agree with him on everything, but I thought that was a very noble thing.
Who started the giving pledge?
Was that Gates or Buffett?
That was Buffett.
Yeah, Buffett.
And they're giving away, what, 99% of their wealth?
Is that the premise?
Die broke.
Die broke.
Live rich, die broke.
Pat, let me get your opinion on this.
The more and more I see, tell me if I'm wrong on this.
The more and more I see this.
Most billionaires are more Democrats, but more millionaires are more Republicans.
Do I have that right?
That assessment right?
Billionaires, more left.
Millionaires.
I don't know the stats.
More right.
You go down the field.
Is that something you can get behind?
Pretty quickly, figure it out.
Most billionaires.
Most billionaires are Democrats.
Billy Devs.
You know what I mean?
Billy.
Let's Google it to see if there is.
Google it to see, are most billionaires Democrats or Republicans?
Are most billionaires Democrats or Republicans?
And I'm a thousandaire.
So Google, what are we?
That's a good question.
You're just voting against your own interests.
A few billions.
Go a little lower.
If you go to images, then my podcast.
There you go.
Our American Richest Billionaire.
Well, that's 2014.
Click on it anyways.
Let's just see what it says.
Lots changed since 2014.
But let's see what it says.
Everything changes anymore.
It says $3.2 million.
Americans richest families and e-book from Forbes, Glimpse, go a little lower.
That's not saying anything.
It's not showing a percentage.
No, it's not showing a percentage.
Okay, yeah.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
But it's like, because as you're making your money, you want to just be left alone.
You want to be able to do your thing.
You want to be able to, you know, have tax breaks, everything that a lot of capitalists and people who veer right kind of stand for.
But once you make the billions, you want to just, you want regulation, you want monopolies, you want like you don't want it, you want to be left alone, yes, but you want the government regulation to be left alone.
That's why you see all these like tech billionaires in bed with government subsidies, this, that, the other.
I don't know.
This is just my kind of speculation, but I figured maybe you have a strong opinion on this.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what to tell you with that part.
All I can tell you is it's very interesting when, you know, you get in a circle and you're only talking to people that are relatively in your level.
You have a hard time understanding what it was like to be a regular person.
Okay.
There's a different, like, I'll give you an idea.
Some people are watching this.
You know, you got big plans for 2023.
Let's just say if you're watching this saying, I got big plans for 2023.
We had a business planning workshop this last week.
It was a very powerful, had a great time.
We had a session last night, strategy session at the office till late last night.
Five-hour meeting we had last night, Tom.
Probably the best one we've ever had.
Sec.
No joke.
We just unveiled the Vitamin's vision, what we want to do in 23, where we're going to be going in the future, different projects we have, and all the different leaders working in different departments share their insight and what they're going to be doing.
But here's what I will tell you.
2023, it will be, we give it a name where we're sitting down and talking about what the name is going to be for the year.
We're calling it the year of building character.
And to me, what I mean by you're a building character, if you say you're going to do something, do it.
You're not going to get 100% score on this.
You're just not.
Because 100% means no matter what numbers you put, you're going to hit 100% of your goals.
If you hit 100% of your goals, your goals were too small.
If you hit 20% of your goals, your goals were either out of whack and you were not really sitting down thinking about the goals.
You're just kind of treating it like homework.
But you ought to hit about 80% of your goals when you're writing them down because some of them should be a stretch where it's like, how the hell am I going to hit this number?
What makes you fight for it?
But the only reason why you will hit your goals for 2023 is because you're more concerned about who you're becoming as a human being than the actual goal.
Character building is about saying, I'm going to do X, Y, Z, working your tail off for hitting that goal.
Antonio Brown is sitting right here.
And I'm trying to find this video.
I got to somewhere around here.
Antonio Brown's sitting right here.
We're going back and forth.
You're in that podcast where we're talking to him.
And in one of the sessions, he says, you ain't, you don't know where I'm from.
I'm from Liberty City.
Liberty City.
I'm from Liberty City.
He kept saying that.
I'm like, dude, I'm from L.A.
Yeah, but you grew up in the nice parts of it.
I'm like, dude, you know, Liberty City, people get shot.
I'm like, dude, in Iran, we get bombed.
Yeah, but you don't understand this, this.
I'm like, dude, this is just going to go places.
So I said, you know what?
Fine.
No problem, Antonio Brown.
You know what I'm going to do, Rob?
I'm going to text this to you to show this video.
I said, I'm going to go.
You just declined it.
I'm going to go to Liberty City City.
And you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to go be a cashier, not a cashier, a bagger at Windixie's.
Sick.
I'm going to wear the whole, what do you call it, uniform?
I'm going to wear the apron.
I'm going to put the apron on.
I'm going to go up there for an hour and act like I'm working there.
And everyone's coming up to me.
If you can play the video for people to see, Eric, if you guys can show this here, press play.
Yeah, that's me right there at Liberty City.
Okay.
Talking to customers.
That's heaven, my cashier.
I just don't look like I belong at this place.
A little too big for the outfit.
You're too tall.
You're too tall.
You can.
You're a 6'4 bagger over here.
But you know what's funny?
Everybody's coming up and looking at me like, what the hell is wrong with this guy being a bagger, right?
And I'm talking to everybody.
Hey, Yolanda, how are you?
Tell me your story.
You know, how old's your son?
Five months old.
Where are the diapers?
How come you're not buying any diapers?
Oh, I can't afford any diapers.
We got to get you some diapers.
The mom looks at me like the grandma, like her mom, not the kid's mom, the grandma of the kid.
We do need diapers, but we ain't got the money for right now.
I said, how many months?
Five months.
What aisle?
I go to aisle number five and I pick up every single diaper box they had for five-month-old baby.
I pick it up.
I bring it.
She's like, no, no, we don't want to buy it.
I said, how about I pay for it?
But you work here.
I said, let me just pay for it.
So, you know, I'm doing my part and I'm talking to everybody.
Why?
I want to know what people are like in Winn-Dixie.
And you're going to find out about, not Winn-Dixie, in Liberty City.
By the way, while we're there, Sam got the video of this.
Sam, if you can send those clips to Michael to add the video as well, there's a shooting right across the street.
Two people get shot.
They're moving by.
I mean, he's right about what the city is like.
It's not a safest place to do.
Not a good city.
Anyways, we're talking to all these people.
And then long story short, next person comes.
She's like, who are you?
I'm sorry.
I'm just a regular person.
No, you're not.
Why are you paying for everyone's groceries?
I spent probably $4,000 or $5,000 buying everyone's groceries.
Eventually, after 30 minutes, everybody was going to aisle number seven.
That's so funny.
We got to clean up a hundred seven minutes.
I'm like, I'm only going to be here for an hour and 15 minutes.
But it was learning.
I said, so tell me about the city.
What is this place like?
Where are you from?
What's the Liberty City?
How much has changed?
The cop that was there with us, she was working at Winn-Dixie 20 years ago, and everybody was talking to her.
She's like, you realize that at this Winn Dixie 20 years ago, there was a shooting every day.
You realize where you are.
I said, really?
Yeah.
Anyways, and one lady says, why are you doing this?
I said, look, man, I came from a family.
You know, my dad was a cashier at a 99 cent store.
And your dad was there.
And your dad was there.
And I said, my dad is standing right there.
My dad was standing right next to me, just like 20 feet away, watching the whole thing.
It's a very unique experience for this whole thing.
This is my biggest challenge for people watching this.
Okay.
And the point I was trying to make with David Rubinstein, and then we can go into the topics.
If you're doing very, very, very well in life, if 2022 was a magical year for you financially, you have more money than you've ever had.
You're driving nicer cars than you've ever driven.
You're going to the best restaurants regularly.
You're getting more respect than you ever have gotten before.
Go to the complete opposite communities to get some perspective, to realize how things are in different places and give back by choice.
I don't like force.
That's taxes.
I like choice.
Do it by choice and learn and take your family.
Let them also kind of see what that looks like because that's a paradigm shift that those need who are doing very well.
But flip it.
If 2022 was a shitty year for you, you went through a divorce.
It wasn't fun.
It wasn't exciting.
Bad breakup.
You know, I'm talking to one of the guys yesterday.
He's going through it right now.
He's in the middle of a divorce.
He thought it was going to be easy.
It's not.
It's ugly.
You know, everything's getting involved.
They didn't have anything in place.
It's not a nasty, it's not a nice situation that he's going through.
So it's a rough year for him.
If you're in a place where things are not going right, you lost $400,000 in Bitcoin.
You were expecting to be a millionaire.
Now you're barely a thousandaire and things are not going right.
Do the complete opposite side to get a paradigm shift.
Go to a Ferrari dealership and ask the guy to sit on a Ferrari and just to kind of see how the salesperson treats you.
Go to a realtor and go to an open house or a $5 million home, dream home in a community you like to live in.
Go give yourself a paradigm shift.
But whatever you do going into 2023, the one thing that's for sure, nothing's going to change dramatically unless if you put all the pressure in building character and create environments for you to have a paradigm shift.
Whether it's for you, your kids, your family, the people you lead, start 2023 with that.
Right before this, the only reason why we started a podcast at 923 is because today was a Christmas, what do you call it when the school does a Christmas, you know, like a event where the kids were doing what they were doing.
I was there today with all my kids.
Like a play.
Senna singing.
It was a Gilligan's Island play, which was awesome.
What time was this?
This was at 8.30.
I just got here right after that.
And then we're off to going to spending time with the family for Christmas.
But, you know, I always think about talking to Rubenstein.
I wonder if they're only talking to billionaires, if they're only talking to people that are in their situations, if they're only talking to rich people and not realizing the other side does not trust mainstream media, the other side does not trust the government.
You kind of have to be able to hear both sides out.
We were just watching a video by Joe Manchin, and Joe Manchin's being asked by Jake Tapper.
So, are you leaving the party?
He says, Listen, man, I'm going to vote the same, the same way I've always voted.
This is who I am.
Whether I change parties or not, that's on me, because I think Kristen Cinema, so everybody's asking if he's going to be doing it.
Look, create 2020, create some paradigm shift moments for yourself to make 2023 the beginning of the greatest years of your life.
And it starts with being intentional, not letting you be accidental.
Anyways, that was my biggest thing with talking to David Rubenstein.
How all that makes sense with each other, I don't know, but it does to me.
So, in my own way, that's kind of what I got from sitting out with David Rubenstein.
Sometimes we need a paradigm shift.
There's the talking points memo with PBD this morning.
There you go, whatever you want to call that.
I think it makes complete sense what you're saying.
Fantastic.
I mean, yeah, and I go ahead, Adam.
Say what you're going to say.
No, you're talking about if you think ultimately, what you're saying is like it's the holiday season and it's better to give than receive.
I mean, we talked about this on our podcast the other day.
Like, you went to Winn-Dixie, right?
And you're seeing how the other side lives.
Every single year, I go to the Special Olympics.
So, whether you're rich, wealthy, broke, poor, when you see people that are just, I mean, this is the, these are the people who are the most hurting in society, can barely function.
And the job of your job when you go to the Special Olympics is to be a hugger.
Your job is to be a hugger, meaning when they finish the race, it is your job to hug them.
And I'm telling you, the first place finisher and the last place finisher has the biggest smile on their face because they finished the race.
So, whatever you're dealing with, no matter whether it's family issues, money issues, divorce, kids, this, that, the other, everyone's got issues.
When you go to a place like that, the Special Olympics, you realize, holy shit, I've got some gratitude to this.
I would tell you, I think everybody needs to do things like that to create paradigm shifts.
For a decade, we would go to Skid Row every morning, Christmas.
If you were part of my sales team, you had to be at the office at 4 o'clock in the morning, Christmas morning.
Imagine what an annoying sales team to be a part of.
Cars would line up, they're all looking at me pissed off, no makeup on, and we'd go to Skid Row and we'd give away 200 hamburgers, all this other stuff.
I think you got to do it.
I think for your own sake, but again, the other side too.
Like, go the other side, too.
Go stay at the most expensive hotel and where everybody stays at to kind of get a feel.
Wow, this is kind of what it feels like.
You got to do both.
Interesting.
That is also an investment.
When I was poor, I had nothing to my name.
I wanted to go rub elbows with killers, meaning like people that were winning, and to kind of say, This is what this lifestyle looks like at Rodeo Drive Beverly's Hotel.
This is what it feels like at Montage.
This is what it feels like at Pelican.
Wow, this is what it feels like at the, you know, Pebble Beach.
Interesting.
Okay, cool.
I just spent this money, but damn, I want more of this.
I want my family to experience this.
What if one day?
The question becomes the what if one day.
When anytime a sentence starts with what if one day, imagine if one day we need to spend more using that sentence in 2022, 2023 in a positive way.
What if one day your dreams do become a reality?
Anyways, it's a time to be thinking about that.
I don't want to go too much longer on this.
Let's just go into topics.
Beautiful.
But that's some thoughts right there.
Okay, so Tom, let's start off with, let's start off with Disney.
Let's start off with Disney.
So, page number six, we're going to go do some business and then we'll go into Twitter files.
And I'll give a shout out to our sponsor here in a minute as well.
It's a gun company, by the way, out of all guns.
Yes.
All right.
So, Disney stock on its way to worst year since 1974.
After Avatar sequel disappoints, this is MarketWatch story.
This share sank nearly 5% to its lowest level since March 2020 on Monday after the blockbuster sequel and one of the priciest movies in Hollywood history fell short of the hype in its opening weekend.
Avatar, The Way of Water, hauled in $134 million domestically and had the second largest global opening of 2022, but fell short of tracking estimates on advanced U.S. ticket sales and disappointed in one of the biggest markets for the franchise, China.
Disney had opened to, had hoped to clean up in China with the first movie in 2009, did blockbuster business, The Way of Water, earned $57.1 million there, which Disney described in a Wall Street Journal report as disappointing, but understandable.
The problem is nobody wants to go to the cinema because they've been told that COVID is extremely dangerous.
Tony Chambers, Disney Global head of theatrical distribution, said, Tom, what are your thoughts on the story?
Well, first of all, this is why Disney has a new CEO, folks.
This is why Bob Iger is back in doing his own version of a reality show to rebuild the house.
So Avatar is going to be just fine.
And I think this is going to be the biggest movie of all time.
If you think about everything you have to do to put on an event, it's like we do the vault event here at Valutainment.
You can't move the date.
You can't change things.
There's hotels.
There's travel.
Everything is in place.
This movie was in place, and no one could have predicted just how big World Cup was going to be.
Number one, no one could have predicted that COVID would have another wave come through and China start telling people to stay home or that you would have civil unrest in many parts of China over Apple labor practices at those factories.
Yet.
Yet.
So I don't look at it this way.
Oh, Avatar didn't meet expectations.
I find it kind of unbelievable they did as much as they did against those headwinds.
So they got a new CEO.
They got this and thing.
I think Avatar is going to be just fine.
I think this is going to be sitting there at number one when everything is counted later on.
This would be the biggest movie, biggest box office.
And Pat, you saw it, right?
Yeah, I did.
And I'm a movie buff.
I haven't seen it yet.
Yeah.
I heard two conflicting sides from Maverick and everybody.
They said, Maverick said it was three hours and 10 minutes.
He goes, they didn't need that extra 10 minutes.
After three minutes, three hours, your body's like, okay, what's going on?
What do you, from, from rating it from storyline?
I mean, graphics, I mean, they've had 15 years with technology.
What would you give?
What would you rank the movie?
Listen, I thought the story was great.
It started very slow.
They had to kind of bring you back.
Obviously, maybe the reason was because it's been so long.
I don't know.
I think the movie could have been done in two hours and 40 minutes.
It didn't need to be three hours and 12 minutes.
I would have been fine with two hours and 40 minutes.
Agree.
I'm okay with that part.
It's very emotional at the end.
The story is about how your kids eventually lead your family and parents end up needing kids to rely on, which is a very emotional message that the way he did it, it was very, very, he tugged at your heart constantly for the last 40 minutes.
I mean, I've walked out of movie so many times in the first half hour, one hour.
If you do that with this movie, you'll be disappointed because the last 30, 40 minutes is worth it.
Here's the other part.
China, of course, makes sense for them to have the kind of numbers that they have, so they can't be disappointed with that.
You can't do anything when politics get involved in China.
That's not the movie's fault.
That's not Cameron's fault.
He says we need to make $2 billion to break even.
That is an insane number to say they need to break even.
Here's the other thing that nobody is talking about on why Avatar didn't hit the numbers.
You ready?
Avatar came out the weekend of the World Cup.
Who the hell is talking Avatar?
Yeah, exactly.
Nobody.
I mean, you got 3 billion people that watched the World Cup, give or take.
A little over 3 billion people.
You think 3 billion people are sitting there saying, so, Adam, what did you think about Avatar?
If Avatar would, let me give you a prediction.
If Avatar would have waited one week on when to come out, they would have done numbers and even more.
They screwed up on timing.
What are you doing coming out on the weekend of World Cup?
Like, honestly, Mr. CMO, whoever the CMO is, what the hell were you thinking?
You know the calendar.
You know when the World Cup freaking is.
You can't change it one weekend.
You can't go one weekend before or one weekend after.
Like, I thought the timing of it was out of whack, but I will tell you this.
I think this number is going to, there's some people that are upset with the fact that they showed pregnant warriors.
I don't know if you saw that or not.
They're already getting that low.
The wolf mob is starting.
They're already talking.
Yeah, if you want to, like, the whole concept of, you know, no, not the woke mob.
Yeah, exactly.
The whole, like, they wanted a pregnant warrior to say, hey, you know, we wanted to kind of highlight women.
Yeah.
We felt sympathy for women pregnant.
So we want to say that pregnant women can be warriors.
Fine.
I understand what he's trying to do.
I don't think it makes any sense.
To be quite frank with you.
I'm sure back in the days you didn't have a choice.
If you were having to fight, and I do believe back in the days, if a pregnant mother had to be forced to protect her kids, she probably would have fought.
So it may not resonate with the average person today.
I was talking to somebody the other day who said, you know, my mom gave birth to me.
I said, yeah, my mom also gave birth.
She says, no, no, you don't understand.
My mom was walking and all of a sudden, you know, she's not in America.
She's living in Mexico.
I was born and she's holding me with my umbilical cord and she went to the neighbor and a neighbor who was half blind, no joke, cut it and that's how I was born.
Now, today, if you say that to the average person, what will they say?
What an irresponsible mom.
What's wrong with that?
I mean, a thousand years ago, everybody was doing that.
It's not like you were going to the doctor calling Blue Cross Blue Shield saying, hey, can I set up my C-section?
There was none of that a thousand years ago.
It's a different time.
So a little bit of reach.
There was no LGBTQ type of a thing where parents can feel safe about that part when they're watching this.
James Cameron didn't play the games with that.
I do think this is going to end up making a ton of money and it's not going to slow down.
That's what I would say about Avatar.
And it'll hit HBO or something within what, a month?
I don't know.
I've got a movie recommendation for the people out there.
This might be a little controversial.
We're talking about Avatar.
We're talking about Black Adam.
What number are we on on the Avengers or whatever?
Don't listen to this message if you have kids, if you're married with kids, or if you're taking your girl on a date night.
But if you're a dude out there, let's say you're 16 and older, here's what movie you should watch this year.
Zero movies.
Okay.
If you're working and you don't have money saved up, you're not in shape.
You're 20 pounds overweight.
You haven't done a business plan yet.
You don't have a chick in your life.
You're not doing anything.
You don't have a purpose.
You haven't done your business plan.
You haven't done anything.
You get to watch zero movies this year.
You get to watch zero Netflix shows this year.
There's no video games for you this year until you clean up your act.
There's so many men out there that are watching movies that know that they're on Avenger 17.
They're on Superman 7.
They're on Spider-Man 19.
I watch zero movies.
You guys are talking about avatar.score.
You've got kids.
Respect.
The kids need to see that.
If I don't have kids or if I'm not on a date night with my girl, there's no movies for you.
You're struggling, homie.
Like, I'm just saying, most dudes out there, two out of three people in America are living paycheck to paycheck.
You don't get to see movies until you're off the paycheck to paycheck wheel.
That's my opinion.
I haven't gone because there hasn't been anything worth me watching.
I'm on the complete opposite.
Mind you, you know this.
I'm a movie buff.
Me, Mario, test me all the time.
Mario will say one word from a movie and I can get it.
I'm not talking about movies from the 90s.
Yeah, no, but when we were kids, I'm in the same boat.
Kid, go see a movie.
When it comes to hip-hop, I stopped with Biggie and all them back in the day.
And then when it comes to films, but I mean, kind of, I would go if it was good, but off of Adam's thing, how expensive is for 3D?
How much is a ticket?
Popcorn, food, drink for one perfect one person's experience.
How much is it, Pat?
For 3D.
I can't even tell you.
I don't know.
I buy the tickets online and $14, $15, $20.
No, I think right now they're like, what's a 3D?
No, for 3D soda and a popcorn, I'd be willing to bet national average about 30 bucks.
Because I think that's going to be like a $19 ticket, right?
I was going to say at least a $20.
$14.
There you go.
This is for regular.
Yeah.
Regular ticket?
Yeah, but that's matinee.
So it's one o'clock.
Oh, listen.
For 3D, I heard it was like almost $40.
Really?
Plus, everything.
You have to wear the goggles and all that shit.
It's not cheap, bro.
So I can see where Adam, like, every because I mean, some people watch two movies a week.
There you go.
$20.43 for a year.
There you go.
You figure popcorn's $10 and a drink.
You're spending $40 for one person.
It's easy for one thing.
For a person that can't afford it, that is insane.
I don't disagree.
I will tell you, for me, when I was broke and I was busting my ass, movies were my therapy.
For me to go to a matinee, get away from everybody and watch I Am Legend was a form of escape without needing a therapist.
Movies have done that for me, but we understand Adam is an unorthodox type of guy.
He doesn't believe in driving.
Yeah, Bucks Luffy.
He has his horse parked outside.
He comes in.
Tom, you're trying to say something on the movie side.
I think you were going to say something.
No, I am.
But I will.
You know, I think there's a lot of movies out there that are not exactly family-friendly.
And I'm really thrilled to see Avatar.
My girls, my kids, they love the Marvels.
They love The Avengers.
They love that series.
We love Top Gun.
So there's glimmers of hope in there that are movies.
But I agree with Pat.
You know, you look at it like this.
I think a movie is a great experience.
And I think it's an uplifting experience because you drop down into an immersive story and you get to look at the story and it touches you.
I am Legend, things like that.
And I disagree.
I think movies is a rather cost-effective escape.
And to your point, Vinny, you don't have to go to the 7:30, you know, Friday night, you know, high-depth theater with 3D for real D and they got to pay for the glasses and everything.
You know, you can go to standard theaters and enjoy it.
But I think it's an escape.
There's positive messages.
It stirs your soul, stirs your thoughts.
I'm on that page.
But I wish there was a best movie of all time.
Favorite movie of all time.
Give me your favorite movie.
Me?
It's Godfather 2.
Okay, what's yours?
Goodfellas.
What's yours?
Jaws.
It's yours.
Anything with Vince Vaughn.
Swingers.
Oh, letting go of the wedding crasher.
Get the big one.
I like that one.
Swingers.
For sure.
Vince Vaughn.
What do you got?
What about you?
I mean, Godfather 2 would be there.
I would put Man on Fire.
Man with Fire.
Patty.
Probably Gladiator.
I'll put Gladiator at the top.
I can watch it.
Here's my point.
Those movies are like, they don't make movies like they used to.
It's all just Marvel.
I agree with that.
Nonsense these days.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And by the way, to your point, because I know you have strong feelings on movies.
When you were going, because you've told that story, you'd go by yourself.
What phase of your life were you in at that point?
I was 27 years old.
Okay.
So here's where I'm going with this.
You were in your building phase.
You were creating a company.
You were working at WFG at the point.
So the point is this.
Your escape for those two hours because you needed to decompress for all the shit you were dealing with.
This is when you were in the Army.
This isn't when you were at Bally's.
This is the one you were.
You couldn't afford.
Army, we would watch movies in the barracks.
Bro, bro.
No, when I'm making $600 a month, dude, you can't do a lot of things.
I feel you on that.
But I guess my point is this.
If you're like, for instance, for me, I'm reading, I'm watching YouTube.
I'm reading articles.
I don't watch any TV.
But if I need escape, I'll watch a half hour of Seinfeld or whatever.
Yes, I do agree.
You need some escape.
Listen, you're starting to really piss me off.
Pat, think about it.
Honestly, most people have to tell you about this gun then.
If that's what you're going to do, I'm going to tell you about this gun.
I started talking trash about movies.
Pat pulls out a gun.
This right here, folks, let me just tell you.
For me, we get a lot of sponsors.
Yesterday, a company came here to the office and they wanted us to sponsor.
And I just told the guy, I said, listen, I understand your offer on the table is very attractive.
It's a massive multi-six-figure check for sponsorship.
I don't use the product.
I don't use the product.
And I can't talk on the product.
I know nothing about the product.
Anything that I talk about, either I understand that there's a need for it as a business person or I use it.
This is one of the companies that we reached out to, Burna.
A guy named John, who works for us.
He's nearly a seven-figure earner out of Orlando, I want to say.
He shows me this in Islam.
He says, Pat, look what I just bought.
I said, well, what are you doing carrying a gun here?
Is that legal?
He says, yeah, this is legal.
You can carry this.
You can have it in your car.
It's legal.
You just have to be 18.
I said, you're carrying a gun?
I said, maybe in Florida, not on.
And he says, nope, all other states.
I said, how's that even possible?
He says, because it's not bullets.
It's projectiles.
And I said, projectiles?
What do you mean?
He says, this projectile, when you shoot somebody with this projectile, you're not going to kill them.
You're not going to go to jail.
It drops them and they can't breathe for 30 to 35 minutes.
They can't breathe.
I mean, they can't breathe.
There's pepper.
There is pepper projectile.
You literally, if you see the video for this, so they came down.
Their CMO, CO flew out.
They came out here.
They're value tainers.
They brought the whole crew.
They did a whole video on it.
They had a bunch of our guys shoot the guns outside.
They have one of them that's a rifle as well.
Anyways, eventually I said, look, guys, if you're a salesperson, if you're an Uber driver, if you're somebody that's a you doing Uber Eats, you do Lyft, you're out there running appointments, you run a small business, but you don't want to have a gun because you don't want to get arrested and you're not trying to kill anybody.
You're just trying to stop somebody so you can call the cops, so they can come to you and you have enough ample time for people to stop.
You may want a gift for 2023 for somebody.
You may want to buy them a Burna gun.
And this Burnout gun, when I called, I said, I want this thing to be optional for everybody to buy.
I want our guys to have a discount.
So that's exactly what we negotiated.
The link is right there.
If you're trying to buy something to protect yourself going into next year, next year's going to be a year of investigation.
It's going to be a very, very weird year with a lot of people going back and forth, especially coming closer to election time.
Highly recommend you buy one of this for you.
If you have a wife that does sales, highly recommend you buy it for her, your daughter, yourself, your sales team, anybody and everybody that's out there seeing a lot of different people, but you don't want to get it.
You're pro-Second Amendment or you're not a pro-second amendment person.
This is the gun for you to make sure you can protect yourself.
The moment you point this at somebody, the first thing they see is all they think about, it's a real gun and you can protect yourself.
Again, legal in all 50 states.
Let's put a link below so people can take advantage of it.
Adam, you really pissed me off.
That's why I wanted to kind of go over it.
Yeah, I get it.
I'll never talk trash about the movies again.
Yes, it was like the end of it.
Thank you very much to our sponsor, Berna.
The BizDoc babe has one that's in the car.
She stops for guns.
Yes, she stops for gas.
Yes, I do.
I bought one.
And if she stops for gas, she knows she's got things to create pepper spray on steroids.
If somebody comes up, because there's, you know, you see around the United States, there's muggings that happen right there where you're getting gas and other things like this.
So I love it.
I feel better that she's safe.
Oh, and I just saw pictures that Aaron showed us of the welts in this.
Oh, my God.
Let me explain something to you.
Have you ever been hit paintball?
Of course.
I got hit with one on the back.
I dropped the gun and I'm like, I am finished.
I'm not playing anymore.
Congratulations.
Now imagine this with pepper and you're having a hard time with eyes breathing all of that.
And Pat, and here's the thing, because I'm a gun owner.
I have like seven guns still in Cali.
I have guns here.
It's once you pull the trigger on a gun in real life, real time, even though you're protecting your life, if that person lives that's coming to attack you to kill you, they can sue you for trying to kill them with this gun, with this weapon.
It's so, because mind you, they have pepper and they just have regular kinetic where it'll just hit you and drop you without the pepper.
But I'm telling you right now, that's one of the, how much, can we get a discount on this back?
Because I can't.
Oh, by the way, anybody that buys it, they get a discount.
Anybody that buys anything you buy, you buy the projectiles, the guns, the rifle, they give you a full discount.
It's on the link that we have to go through it.
You can get a bunch of discounts when you buy their product.
Yeah, I mean, by the way, people are going to buy $2,000, $3,000 worth of stuff because they're buying $3,44.
But anyways, that's great.
So there you have it.
That's one thing.
I personally reached out.
They haven't paid us.
This is just purely an affiliate deal.
We don't do affiliates with anybody.
We only do paid sponsorship.
This is one where I said, I trust the product.
People need this.
By the way, PD uses it.
DEA uses it.
A bunch of government organizations use it for themselves as well.
Okay.
All right.
So let's go into the let's wrap up the avatar part.
You know what's a crazy story about the avatar?
Is the story with Matt Damon, where James Cameron told him, get over it.
Titanic director James Cameron tells Matt Tamino to stop beating himself up for turning down Avatar in 2009 for Born film.
In 2019, Damon52 revealed he was courted by director James Cameron to star on Avatar in 2009, but rejected a deal that would have been seen him get 10% of the movie box office profits earning him.
You ready?
$250 million.
But the Titanic movie maker has little sympathy for the Hollywood heavyweight and has said he needs to get over it.
He's beating himself up for this.
And I really think you know, Matt, you're kind of like one of the biggest movie stars in the world.
Get over it.
But he had to do another Born film, which was on his runway, and there was nothing we could do about that.
So he had to regretfully decline.
There's a certain thing, like, by the way, almost everybody in Hollywood has a story like this.
Of course.
Almost everybody in Hollywood has a story like this.
Like Will Smith with Matrix.
Will Smith was supposed to be Neo, but he was like, nah, I'm good.
I don't think it's going to do that well.
Yeah, future, whatever.
You can't blame.
Like, how do you know?
How do you know?
And your agent has a big, Pat, your agent has a huge one.
How do you know which one's going to do what?
I mean, exactly.
You saw what's going on with DC right now, dropping, you know, Superman Henry, dropping The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, where he had to tweet about it yesterday.
What happened?
Yeah, he tweeted about it yesterday, saying, my passionate friends, I wanted to give you a long-awaited Black Adam because he stopped following Marvel and he stopped.
I'm sorry, he stopped following DC's Instagram account and he stopped following Black Adam on Instagram.
Like, wait a minute, why did you unfollow them?
What?
So update regarding the character's future in the new DC universe.
James Gunn and I connected and Black Adam will not be in their first chapter storytelling.
Howard, DC, and 7 Bucks have agreed to continue exploring the most valuable ways Black Adam can be utilized in the future DC Universe chapters.
James and I have known each other for years and have always rooted for each other to succeed.
It's no different now.
And I will always root for DC and Marvel to win and win big.
You guys know me and I have very thick skin and you can always count on me to be direct with my words.
These decisions made by James and DC leadership represent their vision of DCU through their creative lens.
After 15 years of relentless hard work to finally make Black Adam, I'm very proud of the film we delivered for fans worldwide.
I will always look back on fan reaction to Black Adam when tremendous.
Gratitude, humility, and love.
We did great, et cetera, et cetera.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
What a hell of a month.
And now we all need some more Terramana.
So there you guys plug first to Key Review.
And speaking of Dwayne Rotten, I mean, Joe Rogan's still going after him talking about coming clean with doing steroids.
I see it in the miscellaneous.
But what I'm saying is, like, we interviewed, what's his name recently, right?
Liver King?
Did you see the video recently of him in Hollywood?
He's on Rodeo.
That big intersection pat everybody's shopping, and he's standing there, and some lady with a camera.
I don't know if she was TMZ or not.
She goes, Hey, what are you doing?
And he goes, Steroids.
What's it look like I'm doing?
And then he goes, Leave me alone, lady.
He goes in the middle of the intersection and starts doing deadlifts.
So he's back at it.
And I love that Adam was like, So, are you gonna stop doing steroids?
He just looked at me.
He's like, Hell no.
Yeah, this is it, Pat.
So, he's she's like, He goes, I'm doing steroids.
That's the only way to be.
Okay, and the name is Levites.
Do you rewind it?
He said at the beginning, Pat, look, yeah, what's going on?
Steroids.
Are you doing steroids?
Pause it.
Pause it.
You know what, though?
Good for him.
Good for him, though.
He doesn't give a shit anymore.
That was the one question I asked a lot of people.
I said, Hey, listen, you got caught, bro.
Why would you stop steroids at this point?
Well, clearly, you're addicted to it.
Go for it.
It's like, no, I owe it to the people.
I'm like, you don't know shit.
I think for doing your steroids.
I think for him to see for his investors, Adam, he had to be like, you know, guys, I'm really sorry.
And, you know, but now he's just like, steroids.
He doesn't give a shit.
He could have a needle in his neck.
Nobody would give a damn right now, dude.
You needlene.
And he walks into the middle of the intersection.
He starts doing what was your point?
You're saying that he's still calling out the rocks?
I'm saying that.
I mean, me and him, I don't know if you guys paid attention that much because me and Pat, I'm huge into working out.
I was huge when I was in the military.
We knew that he was on steroids.
Did you know, Liver King?
Like, did you even care?
I don't know.
Looking at the Liver King, I kind of speculated maybe.
He was yoke his whole Liver King.
He was juicing.
He was juicing.
Okay, we all know that.
But like The Rock, he's America's, like, he's the A-list, number one.
Like, all these guys.
Do you do you even care?
Like, I know some people don't give a damn if he comes clean or comes like Joe Rogan.
I think you were talking about The Rock.
I think that's what you're talking about.
So I'm saying, is he supposed to like The Rock?
Is he supposed to come?
I don't know why.
Pat, why is the rock?
Why is Rogan so all over The Rock?
Yeah, I will tell you why.
I will tell you why.
You know, back in the 90s, these bodybuilders, which is a very unique thing that these guys did, and it was kind of funny.
It's the funniest video.
Which one?
Old video of bodybuilders with their faces.
Let me see if I can find this clip.
Old face.
Yeah, that's the one where they're saying, you know, I use steroids.
Yeah, I do this, but they have their faces blurry as if nobody can tell who it is because there's only a few people that are that massive and they're telling the truth about steroids.
But no bodybuilder wanted to say that they're on steroids.
It was like that one secret thing that you wouldn't tell anybody.
Everybody knew they were doing it.
Nobody wanted to reveal that they're doing it, right?
Kind of like smoking weed back in the days was like, hey, this guy's smoking weed.
You know, he's this.
Where today it's kind of like, yeah, okay.
You know, people look at it in a different way.
Not go, we're not endorsing it.
We're just saying it's, you want to smoke cigarettes?
Go.
You want to smoke weed?
Go.
Today, you know, when you're like, I'm naturally this big.
Right.
I'm naturally this big.
This is all natural.
Relax, bro.
Like, you know, when it's like, these are my natural breast.
You know, we had, we had one lady that we work with where I was there when she got the procedure done 15 years later in a meeting saying mine are natural.
I'm like, so some people are like, listen, man, what do you, well, like, what do you get from saying that?
Like, yeah.
So that is the part where some people just don't like when if you're on it, just say you're on it.
No one cares about steroids the way they did 30 years ago.
But some people just want to say, I'm naturally like this because I have great genetics.
Yeah.
Because testosterone's a different story though, but some, because TRT, I'm getting Facebook ads of, hey, if you're low on testosterone, they'll give you an, you know, you can get injections every week.
TRT, but that is a form of steroids.
That's what I was going to ask.
Is that still serious?
So then technically, Joe Rogan admits that he's on it.
He's on TRT.
Of course.
He's talked about it openly.
But again, why do 11 million people tune into Joe Rogan?
Why?
Interesting, good interviews, and he's honestly comes to heart.
I'm just Joe Rogan.
This is who I am.
I do steroids.
I smoke weed.
I'm not going to drink this month.
I'm going to do such and such.
We're going to do this and we're going to do that.
And he opinions.
I don't know.
I used to, I like Bernie Sanders.
I don't know about this.
Now I like this.
He's just like.
He's evolving in front of your face.
Everybody's growing up with him.
Like, you know, if you were to say who Joe is, Joe is the modern day Johnny Carson for podcast.
I love it all.
People freaking loved Johnny Carson.
Period.
So all he's saying is if you're using it, dude, just talk about your using it.
Who gives a shit?
Nobody cares.
But don't act like you're naturally that big because you're not.
Yeah.
And Rogan's also a Renaissance man, whether it's comedy, whether it's UFC, whether it's intellectual, whether it's asking good questions, whether it's like I saw him just, he does his ice bath thing every morning.
That hurts.
It's just, he's so well-rounded and people respect him.
And I don't understand the beef with The Rock, though.
Yeah, that's what I was curious about the climb that tree.
There is conflict out there because The Rock's been in men's health talking about cod, that how much cod he eats every day.
He puts it in the fish, puts it in these plastic containers, and it's like two and a half pounds of cod every day with no oil, no butter.
And so there have been times where he seems like he's gone out there on a limbat to say, well, this is my this is my routine.
I lift it this time.
And so I was just curious what that spark was that got Rogan to say, hey, dude.
I think he doesn't like bullshit artists.
Not even bullshit.
And by the way, there's a part of it that here's what another thing people don't like about what Rock's done a couple times, which is, I support his stuff that he does.
I buy his shoes.
I have his shirt.
I've watched Black Adam.
I thought it was a okay movie.
I thought it was better than other DC movies.
I don't say it's the greatest DC movie of all time.
But, you know, it's almost a feeling I got with talking to our guest yesterday is so concerned about what everybody in their world will say.
Like he comes out supporting Joe Rogan and then a video comes out of Joe Rogan of what he said 15 years ago.
Very disappointed to see this.
I can't support that.
And then what?
It's like, okay, you know, I understand, you know, you're doing what you're doing.
And then same thing he did with Logan Paul, where hey, he's doing all this stuff with Logan and then telling Logan to take all the pictures of us down because they had the same agent.
That's probably the part that doesn't sit well with Joe.
Again, I don't know.
I haven't spoken to Joe about this, but that's probably what doesn't sit well with Joe.
I may be fully wrong.
I'll tell you what's unique about Joe because whether you're talking about our guest yesterday, whether you're talking about The Rock, whether you're talking about politicians, A-list actors, once you've made it, you don't want to say anything or do anything to put you back to normalcy.
Like you just want to play it safe.
It's almost like that conversation we brought up yesterday when you spoke to the billionaire, where he basically said there's two types of people in the world.
There's the people who have already made their billions and they just want to keep it versus the person that's still on the come up and trying to grind and trying to make that money.
But if you're in this camp and you're already worth hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars or you're a public figure, the last thing you want to do is get chopped down and go back down to the bottom of the totem pole.
Everything we've seen with Me Too and Cancel Culture and Believer All Women, everything, you got to play close to the vest these days.
And I think that's why people respect Rogan is because despite being an A-lister, despite making all the money, he's still like, I'm still me, baby.
I'm still me.
And that's why he has so much respect.
But most people are going to kind of play it close to the vest so they don't have to deal with their ramifications.
If we're in business together, I expect you to defend me.
I expect you to support me.
I expect you to, you know, have my back.
There's a relationship, kind of like all the people, you know, Joe, they have that relationship.
But, you know, if you're off, I'm going to say, hey, man, you're off.
You know, I don't agree.
And then we can hash it out and have a conversation on certain things that we do.
Some of it is private.
Some of it is public.
Some of it is no one's business on what you do.
You understand what I'm saying?
And then in this space, like when you're somebody that's the best in your space, Joe's the goat in his space.
And Rock is the highest paid actor of all time.
He's the goat of his space in, you know, $124 million he made in a year.
I think those records are going to be broken.
Two years ago, Forbes said he made $124 in a year in 2019.
That's a big number right there to make as an actor.
There's a mutual respect of like Federer hanging out with Tiger Woods.
Roger Federer doesn't say, you know what, Tiger, after what came out with those 16 girls, you and I can no longer talk to each other.
Can you imagine if Rogers said that?
It's like, I don't know.
Do they have a relationship?
Do Roger and Tiger?
No, Michael Jordan and Rock and Rogan.
Did they have a relationship?
Well, you know what?
There was leading towards that.
All I'm saying is goats with goats.
There's a certain level of mutual respect you ought to have for that.
But Hollywood makes some of these guys actually scared.
And they back off a little bit because they're worried about what the publicists, it's the life you live, like what Rock, what Tate calls out, the word he uses, the Matrix, is they're bowing down to what a publicist is telling them to say.
I agree.
Okay.
And you ought to have a conversation with that person, but there's different kinds of publicists.
Like we had a guy over at our house two nights ago.
I said, he says, look, let me tell you what my specialty is.
Here's my specialty is.
Challenges companies go through, where it's like social media or online crisis you're going through and everybody's targeting you, definition of character.
Let me tell you what the traditional PR firm will tell you to do.
Traditional PR firm will tell you, here's the format of the letter to write of the tweet and the video to make on how to apologize.
He says, that's not us.
Here's what we do.
We say, yeah, I effed up here, I man, for this, but let me also go back and say this, bum, And I, boom.
So the format of Hollywood is this format.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
I'll get better.
I'll get better.
Which is fine.
A get better is fine, but it's constant like fear of losing this spotlight, the favors from Hollywood.
It's too much.
And look, some people can do it.
There's a lot of people that cannot do it.
There's a lot of people that cannot do this kind of.
And those are the guys that are doing things.
It's almost like in football, like when you're playing, you're playing defense or offense.
Like if you're up by three touchdowns with two minutes left, you're just going to prevent defense.
So if you're making $250 million a year, you're the rock.
Like, just don't screw this up.
Just don't screw this up.
So only a few people are willing to just put their neck on the line and Rogan's one of them.
Trump's one of them.
And they're saying, yeah, I'm worth billions, but I don't care if half the country hates me or I don't care if I piss people off.
I'm going to go for what I want.
So like them or not, you got to respect those people that don't play it close to the best.
Awesome.
Let's talk about this $1.7 trillion bill that they're putting ahead of us.
More money to print folks, just so you know, lawmakers unveil $1.7 trillion bill to avoid shutdown, boost Ukraine AP News.
Congressional leaders unveiled a government-wide $1.7 trillion spending package.
Tuesday, that includes another large round of A to Ukraine, nearly a 10% boost in defense spending and roughly, it says $40 billion.
It's $46 billion.
Mostly to assist communities across the country recovering from drought, hurricane, and other natural disasters.
I think we're over $120 billion right now given to Ukraine.
The bill, which runs for 4,155 pages, includes $772 billion for non-defense discretionary program and $855, $858 for defense.
The spending package includes $45 billion in emergency assistance to Ukraine.
It would be the biggest American infusion of assistance yet to Ukraine above even President Biden's $37 billion emergency request and ensure that funds flow to the war effort for months to come.
Legislation also includes historic revisions to federal election law that aim any future presidents, candidates from trying to overturn.
By the way, here's an interesting number to give to you guys.
What a portion of the number went to.
When I tell you this, I don't know how you're going to react to it.
I thought I was a little bit surprised by this number.
Here's what it was.
Here's what it was: $2.6 billion went to U.S. attorneys for January 6th attack prosecution.
How much?
$2.6 billion.
Billion.
Billion dollars.
Trump's net worth.
Let me say that one more time.
Do you hear what I said?
Billion or million?
No, it's a billion.
$2.6 billion.
By the way, if you're like, let me not say this.
No, I believe you.
So people are thinking like, so $2.6 billion just went to lawyers.
Okay.
Let me give you this CNN article.
Just go to CNN article that says the $1.7 trillion.
Just type in $1.7 trillion, $1.7 trillion CNN.
Go to the first article that says, here's what's in the $1.99.
There you go.
So keep going lower.
Just so everybody knows what the story is coming from.
Go lower, Right around there, if you can zoom in a little bit, if you can zoom in a little bit.
Do you see it or no?
$2.6 billion.
The bill will provide $2.6 billion for U.S. attorneys, which would include funding efforts to further support prosecutions related to the January 6th attack on the capital and domestic.
$2.6 billion in legal fees.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, am I the only one that reads this and says, what the okay?
So let's break the.
Do you know how many lawyers you would have to give $2.6 million in fees for this?
Let's do the math.
What's $2.6 billion divided by?
Say $1,000.
Say they find $1,000 names that they're going to prosecute.
They're going to be giving 1,000 lawyers $2.6 million.
A thousand, that's it.
A thousand lawyers are going to get $2.6 billion.
What are we talking about?
And by the way, by the way, this is prosecution, not defense.
Defense is what expenses.
Prosecution, you build an indictment and you put it on the table.
Yeah.
By the way, another $11.3 billion goes to the FBI.
Okay.
Another $11.39 billion goes to the Justice Department.
So, I mean, they're just, and then they're doing a ban on TikTok.
A couple things they had didn't make it in there, but Ukraine gets another $40 some billion dollars.
What are your thoughts on this, Adam, with this $1.7 trillion bill?
Well, I haven't gotten to all the details, but I think we can all realize that whatever the bill is, whatever the proposal is, is not the law.
Meaning, like they're going to negotiate this.
So, you know, whether you went to civics class in eighth grade, the House proposes this, the Senate gets to vote on it.
They negotiate.
This thing could be less than a trillion at the end of the day here.
So, I mean, I'm glad that we're highlighting some of the nonsense because there's going to be arguments.
There's going to be filibusters.
There's going to be all sorts of points and counterpoints.
And we'll see where it ends up.
It does seem egregious.
However, I remember not too long ago when $1 trillion was a big deal.
Now we're talking multi-trillion dollar spending bills and just the norm.
So getting out of control.
Here's my question, too.
How much, after all that's said and done, how much do you think that $2.6 billion would go down?
Because mind you, that's one question.
Number two, the fact that they're trying to get that much for these people is ridiculous, bro.
And for another $45 billion to Ukraine.
And then, Rob, what'd you say?
Rob actually read all 4,155 pages.
Rob, what do you say about the salmon?
Listen to this, Bob.
Yes, $65 million are going to go to restoring Pacific salmon populations, $3 million for what they call bee-friendly highways, and then an additional $5 million in further spending for salmon.
Dude, here's and and and sometimes it's not what's in a bill that they're going to spend it on.
Sometimes it's what they prohibit.
And what is prohibited that not one penny in this $1.7 billion billion auto $1.7 trillion.
Not one penny can go toward border defense.
Not one.
I read that today.
It's a clause in the bill.
One penny can be.
It's in the bill that says none of this appropriation may be directed to border defense.
But that they are spending $410 million towards border security for other nations, including Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Tanzania, Tunisia, and Omen.
Come on, Malik.
So here's a question.
Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, I don't give a shit about politics, whatever party you're a part of, what do you mean not a penny is going to be going to the border?
And we're having 2 million people, record-breaking amount of people coming up here, fentanyl issues that we're having.
How do you process that?
Well, you say $0 is going to be spent on the border, but we're spending it on other people.
How do you process that?
Well, I think what's happening right now is so the new Congress comes in, what, early January, January 20th.
So basically, we all know we just had the midterms a month and a half ago, whatever.
This happens every two to four years where before the new Congress comes in, they're going to try to get some shit passed.
You know, what's the term that they talk about?
Pork spending or pork belly, where you just kind of throw in a bunch of nonsense into a bill and be like, let's get this, let's get this.
It's sort of like a wish list.
You're right.
And we'll see what happens.
What do you feel about this, to Pat's question?
Sorry to interrupt you.
I'm not supposed to be interrupting you.
You're doing a great job at that, though.
Okay, your question.
Thank you.
I got the World Cup of interruptions.
What do you think about?
Okay, that's what's happening.
But what do you think about what's in that?
And that to say nothing for border security.
Yeah, well, I think that's unfortunate.
I think what's going on on the border right now is a mess.
But I mean, look, you think we're going to solve the Board of Security right now on this podcast?
It's been a fucking mess for 20 years.
Do you realize like, but hang on a second?
A podcast is to give opinions.
I agree.
It's not to give like regular, like just a question is being asked.
What do you think?
I think that, yes, we should have some money going towards border security.
But ultimately, what am I saying here?
This is a negotiation.
We're acting like this is the end-all-be-all and this is already popular.
We're trying to finish this up before Christmas.
Yeah, but we'll see if that happens.
I guarantee you when we're going to look back at this in a couple of weeks or in a couple months and be like, yeah, that should turn out to be none of what they proposed.
It's a proposal.
So in any negotiation, you start here and you end up here.
So we'll see what happens here.
And I'm saying this.
This is my opinion.
Okay.
The reason that the left wants all these open borders is because say what you want.
All these people are coming in are votes.
And I'm not saying the illegals can vote, but their children, their grandchildren, they're trying to destroy us and tradition.
I don't care what anybody says, bro.
You think that these people are so pro-immigration illegals because they love these people?
Really think about that, bro.
I know a bunch of liberal psychos in California.
I'm like, you're so open.
Come on.
Everybody, come in.
What are you doing to help them?
You're not letting them come into your freaking house.
Remember, Adam, you always say follow the money.
Okay, follow.
Why?
Not $1 for securing the border.
Why are they so open?
Why did they love open borders?
Those people's kids, grandkids, all becomes votes.
And trust me, when they come in, they say, hey, remember who lets you in here?
The right, the Republicans were like, the hell with you.
You're racist.
You're rapists.
But now, remember, Democrat, always vote Democrat.
And that's how these cats keep it.
You're right.
You're right.
Period.
And by the way, they get to vote too.
You go in the state of California and you can go get an ID.
And with that ID, you can then vote.
And that's why they don't want voter identification.
And they say, oh, that's vote suppression.
Yeah, it is.
In a way, it is vote suppression because you want illegals to vote.
So by your definition, on the other side, their definition, it's vote suppression.
But it's them voting too.
You're correct.
But I add to that that they want the people walking across, not just their children or grandchildren, they want them voting too.
It's a voting block.
It's a voting block for socialist control.
And didn't they, in New York, Pat, do you remember?
I guess in New York, they passed a law where, can you look that up probably fast, bro?
That in New York, illegals can vote now.
I don't know if we're a mayoral candidate or for the presidency, but New York voting law, non-citizen, I think they allowed non-citizens to vote.
What happened this year?
What I will say is I don't understand the whole ID to vote thing.
That should not be a big deal.
You got to have an ID to go get liquor.
You got to get an ID to go to the airport.
You got to go to ID to go anywhere.
But they're saying it's racist to ask for IDs in Georgia.
I don't know.
You're like, it was racist.
Yeah, I think that's racist.
I'm happy that you agree with that, but it's like you have to always say, why, why, why, why are they so anti-they're helping borders overseas, but they don't give a shit about us here.
$140 billion to Ukraine, $400 million to other people's border, not one penny to us, $2.6 billion to lawyers for January 6th.
That's giving a thousand lawyers $2.61 million.
It's a very weird situation where, again, the average person has to sit there and say, like, do they think the voters are dumb?
Like, you know, are these guys that are sitting there negotiating, are they really pushing the envelope?
Are they all kissing each other's ass to help be re-elected?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Again, another reason why the American people don't trust these people as much as they did before.
The American people don't trust mainstream media and the government as much as they did before.
They can go back and negotiate and see what happens.
But just the fact that you're not even putting the issue of the border there says a lot about you.
FYI, this is why 2023 is going to be investigations galore all year long.
All year long, it's going to be investigations, especially if McCarthy takes over.
Just not to go off subject with investigations.
Do you think the, I mean, it's the FBI who's going to go after the FBI?
This is the second time that they were caught meddling with the election.
2016, they did it with Hillary and the collusion.
It was all bullshit with Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page and all those combing, all those corrupt idiots.
Now, because of the Twitter dump, the Twitter files, we just found out that they were colluding with big tech to censor all the stories.
Who's going to investigate the FBI?
They're in charge, the DOJ.
Who's going to go after those guys?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, of course.
All those investigations are.
It's going to take until a new president comes in to really go dig a little deeper.
The first person that's going to do that is going to be DeSantis.
Let me ask.
Look at what DeSantis.
Let's go.
Let's go on the story, guys.
We're not getting opinions.
We'll go to the next one.
So, DeSantis, story about ESG, okay?
Page seven.
So GOP versus ESG.
Why Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Republicans are fighting woke ESG investing?
Okay.
So woke ESG investing.
And there's a lot of this going on right now.
Why do Republicans have a problem with ESG?
The acronym for Environmental Social Governance Principles isn't widely known outside investment circles, but is fast becoming a popular GOP talking point in the run-up to 2024 presidential election.
The GOP says the top nation's top money managers are pushing an ideological agenda at the expense of financial returns in violation of their fiduciary duty in an effort to stop public pension funds from using ESG as a consideration when making investment decisions.
Red states from Texas to West Virginia have pulled billions from BlackRock and other money managers, despite concerns that doing so may hurt.
Financially, they also launched investigations into the influence of big money managers on everything from reducing emissions to racial justice.
Pretty pathetic what's going on here.
But here's what DeSantis did: okay, DeSantis is like, I'm just not going to be playing this card.
Look, they give a score to companies.
Tom, why don't you talk about what ESG is so the listener can kind of get a better idea?
Well, there's two things: there's ESG and then there's DEI.
And what DEI is a, let's talk about that first really quick.
DEI is a fair measurement of women, minorities, and all the groups that are in your company.
The more diversity means you're reflecting the community and you've got fair hiring practices and everybody comes on.
That's DEI.
ESG is different and people get the two confused.
DEI is not a bad thing.
It's a sign that companies are doing things and many people have an opportunity to work for you.
ESG is where you are taking political, unproven, and positional elements and you're pulling them into your company to operate for them, such as certain environmental things and certain governance things.
So when you take a look at it, you're going from DEI, where you're doing good things, you can count with all the wonderful people that represent society as a whole.
They're part of your company, to ESG, that's kind of I think and maybe.
And what it's forcing people to do is make oddball decisions that don't optimize it.
And I'll give you a simple example.
The states operate 529 plans, and people with this little $500 can start putting into a tax-free college savings account for their kids.
Many people, millions and millions of Americans, have it.
You don't have to have a million dollars to put money in a 529 so it earns tax-free.
So there's something for your kids for college.
But now the funds that are in there that are governed by the states, they're following these ESG principles and it is showing that it doesn't optimize the return.
So people are going to be losing out on things like 401ks and on a 529 tax-free fund that you're in Iowa, you put 500 bucks in, find a way to put a couple hundred bucks a year, see if it grows and you have college fund for your kid.
But instead, the money managers are putting handcuffs and they're forced to make ESG investment decisions.
And when they do that, it's de-optimizing the return.
It's a fact.
I'm sorry, you don't have enough environmental investment.
Well, we don't think that's prudent right now.
We're looking at the market.
We're investing in technology, medicine, these kinds of things.
And we think that's all good.
The energy sector looks good right now.
Consumer, like, you know, blue jeans and other things, these companies look good.
And we're making objective decisions about what we're investing in.
The funds are, sorry, where's your investment in environmental carbon credit recruitment?
And it's like, wait a minute, you know, you're forcing these fund managers to do things that they wouldn't normally do.
Because a fund manager is agnostic about one thing.
Do these particular sub funds and money make money?
Are they going to make money?
Because he wants to, he or she wants to get a good grade for managing the fund.
And ESG is forcing, they're calling it woke, that's forcing money managers into making decisions they wouldn't normally make for your retirement, your college fund, everything else.
Sorry for the long answer, but this one grinds my gears in a very big way.
It de-optimizes what fund managers and money managers are supposed to be doing for Americans' retirements and 529 plans and things like that.
By the way, I'll give you an idea.
The highest, who do you think, what company you think in America has the highest ESG score?
Apple.
Alphabet.
Number two.
Yeah, Google.
Number two, Intel.
Number three, Microsoft.
Number four, Salesforce.
Number five, Bank of America.
Okay.
I mean, you look at the names.
Tesla has a low ESG score.
They don't have a good ESG score.
I don't know if you know what Elon Musk called ESG.
He came out and flat out just said ESG is a scam.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, he flat out said ESG is a scam and they're using it as a way to manipulate.
Shamat, big critic of ESG, and he believes in climate change.
Shamat is like, I'm a pro-climate change guy.
I believe in climate change, but I believe ESG is a scam.
So Musk tweeted, ESG is a scam.
It has been weaponized by phony social justice warriors.
They target people like Elon Musk.
They target people that are not willing to bend.
Yeah, Exxon is rated as a top 10 best in the world for environment, social governance by S ⁇ P 50 while Tesla didn't make the list.
Think about this.
Exxon.
Exxon is top 10 best in the world for environment and Tesla.
Well, you know what that means?
Here's the manipulation.
So Exxon can go out there and buy carbon credits.
You get points for that.
They can go out and do virtue signaling by supporting local charities that are active on this.
But meanwhile, they're a fossil fuel manufacturer and processor.
So you can game it.
If anyone has ever been part of a company where you have a sales plan and you get a commission to do this and this and this, and it's not just a straight commission.
There's a couple other incentives in it.
Salespeople will game the plan, won't they, Pat?
They'll try and find ways to go around and optimize.
I know what you're talking about.
I've never worried about that.
No, no, no.
I don't mean you, Pat, but I mean, come on.
What do you mean, you people, Thomas?
What do you mean, you people?
Tom Middleton.
I understand what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're saying.
No, no, it's anybody.
I'm sorry.
You people, when I meant that, anybody who's run a company or has run consulting or has run things like the vault and everything that Pat runs, you know, you run into companies who are trying to run sales campaigns and do good things for their sales guys.
And they say, my sales guys just find ways around it.
And it's like, well, you need to think it over because the salesperson is going to find the best way to manage it.
Well, guess what?
Big companies are doing that with ESG.
Virtue signaling and other kind of fake investing to get their ESG points.
So if they score on ESG and it really had nothing to do, did anything really move the ball?
So I'm with you.
When Exxon's up there on that, you're like, how are you scoring this?
And how did they play the game?
And they got the points for doing it.
Maybe it's, you know, a couple million to Bernie's campaign.
There's another 200 ESG points.
It's probably, I bet you if you peel this onion back, it's some pretty nefarious, pretty fair scoring system.
Yeah.
So anyways, we'll see what's going to happen.
Much like kind of like the term woke wasn't always a bad term.
Like five years ago, when it sort of came into the nomenclature, it meant like, all right, you kind of get what's going on.
And it's kind of taking a life of its own these days.
Now if it's woke, it's a bad term.
I guess my question is when ESG started, was it like, all right, it's sustainable investing.
It's stakeholder capitalism.
We're concerned about the environment.
We are concerned about green energy.
We're concerned about air pollution, clean water, all these things.
You see these companies, BlackRock, Apple, NVIDIA, PayPal, Verizon, Walmart, Hilton, like the list goes on and on.
So what changed?
Meaning like initially it was a good idea.
All right, let's invest in companies that care about communities or the earth or well-being, much like how woke was like, let's address issues that plague society and social societal issues.
But at some point, it's taken a turn for the worse.
Like what Elon has said is like, all right, it's gone completely overboard.
It's gone completely woke.
At the end of the day, does it just come down to returns?
Is that the problem?
Is that they're so concerned with social issues rather than think about what Elon just said: Exxon is top 10, and Tesla is not on the list.
So, when you think about Exxon, I'm going to give you a word.
Let's play a word game.
Ready?
I'm going to give you a word.
You tell me one word that comes to mind: Michael Jordan, basketball, goat, messy, soccer, Neymar, Brazil, Trump, America, Biden, Sleepy, Sanders, Communists, Exxon, Tesla, Green Energy.
You realize, like, I don't know if like, yeah, no, I get it.
So, so, so, so, the same people on the left that are saying we should get away from oil give a top 10 to Exxon and the company Tesla, who has created the movement of electric cars to get away from using gas vehicles, is not on the list just because Exxon has publicly said, I'm going to do good things, please forgive me.
And Tesla says, Yeah, we're doing good things.
I don't want to publicize it, but this is how we're doing good things.
But Tesla gets a bad score.
This is hypocrisy at its best.
And Elon is absolutely right in this area.
So, do you understand the point I'm making here?
Completely.
And that's why I'm asking where it went wrong, meaning the initial.
This is where they went wrong.
Right.
So, it's kind of like this.
Let me give you an idea what it means.
How is you know the question about how credit score is, what do you call it, measured?
Okay, how is credit score measured?
Like FICA scores, how is it measured?
Like, hey, you know, Experian, Equifax, TransUnion, whatever.
Okay, imagine you make all your payments on time, you make every single payment for your house, your rent, your credit cards, everything's on time, and you manage your credit well, okay?
But but you don't use a credit card by Amex because Amex gives XY's amount of money to a climate change organization because of that.
Your credit score went from a 780 to 620.
Now, B of A doesn't want to give you a loan to buy a house.
This is the best explanation I can give you for what this is.
The method of counting successful credit score, which is paying your shit on time, has been manipulated on who you're not giving money to.
Wow.
How the hell does that make any sense?
It doesn't.
That's the best way to explain ESG.
Does that make sense?
Makes complete sense.
And so people should get judged to pay things on time, not get judged for doing this.
And Elon's making a good point.
Yeah, you know, who is also you brought up DeSantis, but you got to give a shout out to CFO of Florida, Jimmy Petronas, for highlighting this kind of stuff.
He does emails all the time saying we're, what, defunding BlackRock?
Is that essentially what they did in Florida?
They also did it in North Carolina.
But this is the importance of talking about these kind of things.
I wasn't too, too, too familiar with ESG up until about, I don't know, six months or a year ago.
But it's starting to be something that, why is it taking in these fund managers so long to pull?
I've got a lot of an idea.
Like, I went to look at different schools for the kids.
Okay.
One of the schools, first 30 seconds.
I said, so let me ask you, what is the top priority of the school?
What do you think are the top challenges?
What does the school think are the top challenges America's facing today?
School says, oh, number one on the list is climate change.
Oh, geez.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.
That's number one on your list.
Yeah, okay.
Not raising great kids.
Now, not raising future leaders.
As your school.
It's climate change is your number one.
Yeah, I mean, I can't wait to send all my kids to your school.
Absolutely.
They're going to be running in the dark.
Yeah, you go to another place.
And I say, so what do you think about capitalism?
Hey, what do you think about this?
So what do you think?
Yeah, the number one issue is, you know, gender equality.
Number one, inclusive.
Number one is this.
Number one is DEI.
Number one, I'm like, yeah.
Listen, you're doing and saying things to please somebody rather than the priority is what kind of kids are you developing?
Values, principles, leadership, all this stuff.
That's what we value, right?
So, anyways, this is thrown a lot of people off.
And I'm glad they're getting held accountable right now.
Even though Bloomberg is coming out saying ESG community should push back and you should get after them.
Oh, you saw that article?
Yeah, you know, man, push back hard.
You got to fight back hard.
The PR press reacts to the attacks all the ESG people are getting.
Okay, tough guy.
Yeah, got it.
You're right.
Relax.
While you're giving your level of hypocrisy and contradiction, good for DeSantis.
This is another reason why people feel very comfortable that a DeSantis is not afraid to go after guys like Larry Fink.
Love it.
Love the fact that he's not afraid to go after guys like Larry Fink.
Hold him accountable.
Hold him accountable.
Okay, so let's go to the next one here.
Next story.
Do we want to hit it Twitter?
Let's just do a Bill Maher story real quick.
Let's do a quick Bill Maher story.
A little bit lighten.
Lighten up, dude.
Isn't that a line from your comedy video that you did with Batman?
Yeah.
So let's see which one I'm going to.
What page are we on?
Okay, there we go.
That's why they turn, that's why they turn into a bunch of hoes.
I love that coming up.
Comedian Bill Maher mocks people who are offended by everything.
Comedian Bill Maher and Miss Pat, whose real name is Patricia Williams, mocked people who are offended by everything.
People go crying and they're ready to jump off a ledge at any little thing you say.
It's the kids that we're raising today.
They don't work for shit.
We give them everything.
That's why they turn into a bunch of hoes and be crying all the time.
Instead of being honest to kids, they want to pamper them and make the word easy for everybody.
The world isn't.
I cuss at my kids and people say, how can you cuss at your kids?
I said, because when they get into a real world and somebody says, F off, they won't fall off the ground.
You know, Marr is an absolute mom.
Maher is an outspoken opponent of cancel culture and political correctness.
In 2021, he said liberals should stop catering to the people who just want to bitch.
Tom, thoughts?
I think he's, this is refreshing.
This is absolutely refreshing.
Catering to people that just want to bitch.
It's one thing to have a point.
It's one thing to move the ball forward on something important for society.
It's quite another thing where you protest for the sake of protest because what you're really trying to do is move things into power.
And by the way, there's a direct line with this.
It goes right back to ESG of all these people bitching about stuff.
And then it goes back and then their executional lever of bitching is in ESG policy.
I love this.
And I think he's calling it.
And Ms. Pack is calling it.
And I think there's a big thing in here about kids.
The BizDoc babe is a teacher.
And we have kids today that are treated differently and are too sensitive and are incapable of debate.
And she is dead on.
I don't necessarily cuss at my kids, but I don't cut them any slack.
They hear it from me when things are not right because no, I don't want someone to challenge them or want to debate with them or anything like that in the real world and have them shrink back and be unequipped and unprepared.
Yeah, Bill Maher, I've said this before.
I mean, that's my guy.
If there's anybody that I think is just kind of nailing it these days, it's Bill Maher.
I know that obviously you're tight with Rogan and that's sort of like who you think is on Goat Mountain.
Bill Maher is on my Goat Mountain.
And it's not because he calls out the right.
It's also because he calls out the left.
I mean, who are we talking about right now?
It's specifically, if we want to name names, the people that are doing the complaining are young people, Gen Z, who, you know, are just kind of entering the real world for the first time and they're bitching and complaining and they haven't done anything yet.
A lot of what you talk about are the doers don't have a voice and the complainers have a loud voice.
These days, if you're 22 years old, you haven't done anything yet, you haven't built anything yet, you haven't even made any money, you haven't built a family, you haven't accomplished anything.
It's so easy to bitch these days about everything that you're seeing in the world and all the plights that you're dealing with.
The reality is in America today, in America, this is the best, most amazing time we've ever had in our country as far as living longer, healthier, wealthier.
Things are so good in America.
And, you know, just take a trip to other places in the world and then come back to America and see if you still have that same attitude.
But overall, I think Maher is just nailing everything these days.
And shout out to him and his writers because they're crushing.
No, because I actually know one of his writers that's on the real time with Bill Maher.
Not know him like well, but I've done stand-up with him.
And I just, I mean, I respect him, but it's just, do you think this shift is happening because he was so he was just the Trump?
That's all to me because that's from what I saw in LA.
It was just every day was Trump and they're like trying to be clever with the Trump jokes.
Do you think that this is a shift because he's trying to still keep, because nobody's relevant when all those Trump hating CNN, we saw what's happening with CNN.
Do you think he's making that shift and he's being so anti, you know, woke and all that just because so he doesn't lose followers or he's always been this?
He said that, you know, I haven't changed.
My positions have always been this.
It's been the left, the progressive left that has sprinted far left.
Like a lot of times, he'll say this on his show.
I don't know how often you watch his show.
He says, a lot of times Fox News will praise me, right?
Or Hannity will praise me or Tucker will praise me in the hopes that I'll come on their team.
He's like, I am not on your team.
Okay.
But I'm also not on whatever this woke ideologue situation is going on on that side.
I mean, you saw the stats that he talked about with like that LGBT stat and how America's coming gayer and gayer and woker and woker.
I think that at the end of the day, what we're talking better is just common sense.
He's calling out the left.
He's calling out the right.
And we need more of that in this country, whether it's a Rogan, whether it's a Mauritius, whether it's what PBD and what we do here.
Common sense will prevail.
I think that's the issue.
And I think my only thing is, too, not to bring up, not to cut you off, Tom, and I do not want to talk about Trump, but the fact that when Dave Rubin was on his podcast, I spoke, he still can't admit, people like him, that really pissed me off.
You still can't admit that what happened with the elections and all that shit was fabricated and it was all made up.
None of them could just be like, okay, I was wrong.
Because even Dave Rubin was like, come on, bro.
Like, it's all Hillary and she paid.
And they're still like, no, you don't know what you're talking about.
That's one thing I don't respect is admit when you fuck up.
Admit that you were duped.
You didn't start it.
You didn't do it.
Admit that everything that you said that you were peddling on your show and all these people, you lied.
That's what we're talking about with CNN.
I would respect CNN 1,000% more if just one day they just went, you guys, you know what?
We messed up.
Hillary did all this.
She paid all this money.
And we believe there.
And we pushed it all on you guys.
We'll move on.
That's the only reason I don't respect them.
Do you watch Bill Maher at all?
Who are you talking to?
You.
I just watch his clips on Twitter.
I've never watched this show.
Like, watch.
Is it on HIV?
I don't have nothing at all.
You're not like a Bill Maher guy.
Whatever he posts on Twitter.
Specifically Twitter.
Anything that all of a sudden pops up, first of all, I think he's my style of a guy.
Like if we were to go out and talk and just shoot the shit, he seems like somebody you can shoot the shit with and entertain, have banter conversations.
He's that kind of a guy.
I like how he is.
But I kind of agree with what he's talking about as well.
All I know is this year, 2024, 2023, is going to be a rough year for a lot of people.
I'm just saying, it's not going to be a good year for Fauci.
Fauci is going to go from being the sexiest man on earth to a bachelor or somebody that knows.
I mean, he's going to be Scrooge at the highest level, like a Scrooge type of a guy.
That's going to be, I mean, you should have seen his reaction when I say what I said about Fauci.
It's as if I cursed out, you know, the guy.
Yeah, I mean, it's as if you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's a scene you have to watch from yesterday's clip.
But Fauci's got to a lot of people.
He's not going to be God next year.
He's going to be more closer to a fallen angel than he's going to be a God in 2023.
Him, Hunter Biden, SPF.
It's not going to be pretty this year.
Can I say something about Hunter Biden?
Yeah.
This is crazy.
So I watch SNL a lot.
Shout out to our buddy Marcelo Hernandez.
You know, they did a bit, a cold open this weekend.
The guy that does Trump, I don't know who he is.
He's actually really good.
He's funny.
And then they had Donald Trump Jr. come on.
Really?
No, no, no.
Not real.
And he talked about, hey, partying.
And I said, you know what?
Just for shits and giggles, let me put into YouTube SNL Hunter Biden.
Because clearly there's going to have to be something that they've made fun of Hunter Biden.
One joke.
Crack, prostitutes, this.
That to me was shocking.
There was nothing about Hunter Biden on SNL.
That is a layup for comedy.
100%.
Like you talk about comedians, like layup jokes.
You tell me you can't do a bit about Hunter Biden smoking crack in his den in the face.
You can't do one bit on SNL.
That to me is a red flag.
That to me is an opportunity for another company to launch a comedy channel and recruit other comedians, which we're doing.
If you're a comedian, you're a writer, you're improv, reach out to us.
Valutainment, go to value.
Guys, if you are funny, genuinely funny, and you know people that are funny that can write, act, do stand-up, just overall, genuinely funny people on Valutainment Comedy.
Well, we posted a video.
And in the description, there's a submission that goes to Valutainment.
We're looking for people.
We have over.
Just put the link of the submission below.
Put it in the chat, Rob.
Not in comment, but put it in the chat.
Yeah, and we already have at least 50 people, Pat.
We're going to start picking people.
So it says we're going to be those people.
Unique names with a lot of followers have reached out, which is which is exciting.
Okay.
Let's go into Twitter files.
Okay.
Let's go into Twitter.
Not Twitter files.
Let's talk about Elon Musk's poll that he did a couple days ago talking about whether he should be replaced or not.
And the votes came out.
17.5 million people voted.
He said, you know, out of the 17.5 million, 57% showed that Elon should step down as the CEO of Twitter, which this doesn't mean he is no longer owning Twitter.
It just means he's stepping on.
He'll still be the chairman of the board.
He'll still be the owner of Twitter.
He'll just have somebody else operate Twitter.
And then a bunch of talks came out.
So Twitter, Musk, who could be the next CEO of Twitter?
Elon Musk's poll this weekend asking followers if he could step down as Twitter CEO.
Though he has ignored the results of the vote, in which 57% of he has not ignored it, he came out and he said, I will be stepping down.
I'm looking for somebody.
There's a bunch of different names that are popping out right now.
Sirium Krishnan, senior director of product at Twitter a decade ago in 2020, when he was appointed as general partner of the influential tech and crypto investment firm and recent Horowitz.
And this year he was taped by Musk to be part of his war room shaping Twitter into whatever it is now.
Number two, Blake Masters is another name that's come up.
After losing the Arizona Senate election in November, Blake Masters apparently wants to pivot back into original career path.
One of the other guys who helped run Twitter, some of the existing names, there's even Snoops out there.
Jared Kushner's out there.
Snoop.
A bunch of different guys.
Musk's fixer or is a new favorite lawyer, a Mormon, and a former Morgan Stanley wealth manager, Musk's fixer, Jared Burkle, helped lock in the deal that allowed his boss to buy Twitter with billions and loans with Morgan Stanley.
The head of his family office, Birchell, is also the CEO of Neuralink.
Anyways, there's a lot of different names that's coming up.
Thoughts?
I want to address the tweet that you put out there.
Yeah, because I thought that was very interesting.
You kind of threw your hat in the ring and you kind of made a proposal right there.
What do you think the most important qualities of the new Twitter CEO should be?
So, first of all, here's what I did say.
If you're talking about the tweet that I sent out, let me just read it so I can say exactly what I said.
I said, because he asked, he said, Lex Friedman asked, you know, I'd love to come and work and, you know, do what I can.
And then he responded and says, in order for you to do that, you would have to put your entire life savings in it.
You have to be all in if you're doing this.
He says, I'm all in, right?
Anyways, we're on a flight to Dallas yesterday or two days ago, Addison.
We had a special meeting with some of our guys at home office.
A very, very big meeting, maybe the biggest meeting of the year for a couple people.
And we flew in, you know, on the way there.
We're talking about this.
I said, Tom, I think we can take this company to a trillion-dollar valuation.
What do you think?
We start going back and forth.
We're having a conversation.
About Twitter, you're talking about it?
About Twitter.
Yeah, it's me, Mario, and Tom, and me, Mario, and Tom, and Sanvell on the flight.
And we're going back and forth on what we would do.
You know, here's what we could do this.
We could do that.
We could do this.
We could do that.
And I said, you know what?
The only person that I'm concerned about this thing would be Jen.
And Mari's like, Pat, you got to talk to Jen about this before you make the decision.
Your wife.
Yeah.
I said, well, even if we took this job, you know, it would be a job because it's a fight.
Like, you know, hey, would you ever run for office?
I would only do this because I see this as service.
I don't see this as money.
I'm okay financially.
I see this as public service because the world needs Twitter to stay open the way it is right now.
That's annoying a lot of the people from the swamp who have been manipulating these guys.
The government was paying Twitter nearly $3.4 million.
The government was paying Twitter $3.4 million.
I don't know if you read the Twitter files.
How much?
$3.4 million.
They collected from the government to say, hey, move this.
Hey, do this.
Hey, do that.
They bragged about it in an email to each other.
Okay.
So I said to Elon, a guy asked me a question saying, hey, Patrick, would you ever take the job of being a Twitter CEO of Offered?
I said, yes, I would accept the terms Elon Musk has mentioned publicly with two other requests, salary of $1 per year, a reasonable equity incentive beyond my life savings investment.
And we would drive Twitter to a trillion-dollar valuation within five years, 100% serious.
And I got a bunch of different commentary, some DMs, some interesting messages that came out.
But no, we haven't heard from Elon Musk.
No, I don't have an interview in place.
Some people are like, Pat has an interview.
I haven't spoken to Elon.
I don't have an interview.
I've not spoken to anybody on this team.
No conversation like that has taken place.
But I do believe that this is a job that needs to be ran by somebody who is reasonable, somebody that can see both sides.
We were talking yesterday what skill set is very important to be a C-suite executive.
Is it more hard skills or is it more soft skills?
In a situation like this, I think this is a soft-skill job.
This is somebody that's got great soft skills to be able to work with both sides, yet Scott is a true believer that is not going to compromise values and principles.
So for this position, he has to weigh out what he values more.
Is it somebody that understands engineering more?
Is that who needs to be?
Or is that the CTO job, not the CEO job?
Is it somebody that's a true believer of freedom of speech where they're not going to break compromise values in front?
Is that the number one value?
Is it somebody that's good at communicating messages with both sides that can play a synergist?
Is it somebody that's not afraid of being pushed and being criticized nonstop and public humiliation?
What value does this CEO need to have to do that?
Whatever value is at the top for him, that's who he's going to hire.
And I'm willing to bet Elon knows what five qualities he's looking for before he decides to give somebody this job.
It has to be somebody that's ran a business before.
It has to be somebody that understands how YouTube elements are working out where YouTube's giving 55% of advertisement to producers.
It would have to be someone that can bring some big podcast names to be able to put on Twitter spaces, which is really doing well.
That's a product that they can do a lot of things for.
It has to be somebody that can bring a consulting space to experts to get paid.
It has to be somebody that understands a bit of politics and gamesmanship.
I think those are some of the qualities I would if I'm him, but I'm not him.
It's not my company.
I would look at some of those qualities before I bring somebody in.
With the current climate right now, with everything that's going on in Congress about TikTok, right?
And I'm an advocate of getting TikTok the hell out of America.
I agree.
What do you think is the upside for Twitter?
Because I think if you go through the top 10 social media companies, number one, Meta, number two, YouTube, Google, you go down the list, WhatsApp, Instagram's up there, Facebook Messenger.
Then you've got a couple of Chinese companies, WeChat, TikTok.
At least according to these numbers, as far as what is it, monthly active users, Twitter is in top 15, meaning they're not even in the top 10 right now.
Where do you think Twitter could be in the next five years?
Exactly what I think.
A trillion-dollar company.
I think Twitter can really compete with everybody.
And this can be the WeChat and many other things.
But there's a way he has to go about it.
You know, look, there's certain jobs that are big jobs, but you don't get them because of just money.
You have to have the itch for it.
Certain jobs, you will be the most hated man in America is a job.
Like Trump was the most hated man in America for a few years.
He's no longer, by the way.
I don't even think Trump's in the top three most hated man in America today.
I think he's number one right now, most hated man.
I think he's number one above everybody right now.
I think he's the most hated man in America.
He's being targeted by the swamp.
He's being targeted by mainstream media.
He's being targeted by the left.
He's being targeted by universities.
He's being targeted by a lot of different people.
They can't stand this guy.
So now watch this.
Anyone that takes his job, anyone that takes his job, if you can zoom in, is what he's saying to you.
Anyone who takes his job, Elon's job, will be a modern day.
I know this is going to sound weird.
You're going to be a Rupert Murdoch type of a guy.
Wow.
And if you know who Rupert Murdoch was, this guy was never loved except for people that worked with him and were part of Fox.
The guy was hated for ever, okay?
But he built a $100, $200 billion company.
I don't know the exact valuation of Fox.
It's not a job for everyone, especially somebody that if you want to be liked, this is the last job you want to take.
Well, you hit the nail on the head with Rupert Burdock because who did he appoint to run Fox News for Susan?
No, no, he had Roger Elliot.
Roger Ells.
I'm thinking you're talking about the current CEO.
No, no.
So my point is this: you bring up a good point with the Murdoch because I went and I kind of went and saw who's running all these companies with the exception of Zuck, right?
We all know Mark Zuckerberg.
He's running Facebook, Meta.
The last thing you want with these major social media companies are household names.
Right now, everything, the spotlight is on Elon.
But if you go down the list here, okay, so who runs YouTube now?
Susan Wojiski?
Like, nobody, average person does not know her name.
I cannot even pronounce her last name.
Who's the CEO of Instagram these days?
Obviously, Instagram is owned by Facebook and Meta.
We know Zuck, but who's the CEO of Instagram?
We don't even know his name.
His name is Adam Morrissey.
Okay.
Mosseri.
All right.
Mark Benioff owns Time.
Jeff Bezos owns WAPO.
You have all these, you know, whether it's social media, whether it's major news outlets, it's very low-key.
I actually completely understand why Elon would throw his hat in the ring, bring in literally the kitchen sink, but then step away and then assign somebody to the CEO that isn't going to make the waves and the headlines here because ultimately it's not, it's about freedom of speech.
It's about free speech.
It's about the First Amendment.
It isn't about Elon.
I think, I mean, by the way, do you think he abides by these polls?
How much?
I think he does.
Abides by him.
Meaning, like, if he does, like, he reinstated Trump, he said, should I reinstate Trump?
They did it.
Boom.
So, how much credibility would he lose if he doesn't abide by them?
You've seen the last CEO tweet right there yesterday.
I will resign ICEO as soon as I find someone foolish enough to take the job.
After that, I will just run the software and silver teams.
Meaning I think he's going to abide by the fact that— Oh, yeah.
In that sense, yeah.
I actually think he will.
Tom, what are your thoughts on this?
Oh, first of all, I think the world is completely confused by this.
And to the ignorant lemmings that are out there screaming, oh, you know, he's going to leave.
He's going to leave.
He owns the company, people.
That's like my dad saying, okay, I'm not going to be the dad of the family anymore, but I am going to be the chairman and I still make the most money and I control where we go on vacations.
Great, but he's not dad anymore.
He's stepping down.
Fantastic.
People don't get it.
He's about to become chairman and he's going to run the software teams and all the things that he's really good at.
And he's going to put a CEO in place that has those qualities that Pat talks about.
There's new features that have to come out.
We need to attract talent to this.
We need to attract user base to this.
You need to be balanced on the political side of this.
That's the job of that new CEO.
And it's going to be a thankless job, a tough job for someone who's got the ability to come in there and do that.
And then as you get the users back, look, it's 400.
Oh, it's only 14th in the world, but it's 400 million users.
If that doubles to 800 million users, I think it's number four or five in the world.
So suddenly this thing is going to be right where we think it's going to be.
I believe it's going to be a trillion-dollar company.
And what, you know, Elon Musk is crazy like a fox.
And a lot of these critics are out there just finding something to do and they're being played, baby.
They're being played.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
Just yesterday, you know, it's crazy.
Yesterday we're having a meeting and we're thinking about doing something with LinkedIn.
How much was the thing that we want to do with LinkedIn?
Oh, yeah, it was $30,000 for like unlimited recruiter access.
I'm not asking what it is.
I'm just saying how much was it?
$30,000.
It was $30,000.
Yeah, so think about it.
So LinkedIn has a feature where you pay $30,000, right?
Okay.
So I think Twitter can allow people that are willing to spend that kind of money to get access to information that others are not going to have.
There's so many ways to create revenues with this company.
You know, the saying goes, you know, where in a church, you know, first you bring them into the church, you baptize them later.
Sometimes some churches that are small, they try to baptize people first, then bring them to church.
No, hey, man, just come to the church.
You know what?
This place is kind of fun.
I like this place.
We'll baptize you later.
Okay.
So Twitter is now bringing people to the church, which is Twitter.
You're going to be able to baptize them later with a product.
You're going to be able to baptize people to say, I'm going to spend money on this.
I'm going to buy this service.
I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do this.
And by the way, you realize there's an element of like these video games, Candy Crush, and all these other guys.
One time I'm in Colombia with a couple of my friends, and one of my friends is like, six hours, he's on the phone.
What are you doing?
So we're at dinner.
He's like this.
I'm like, hey, what is he doing?
He says, oh, dude, he's so addicted to this game.
He spent $5,000 yesterday on the camera.
What?
He says, yeah, he bought this, he bought that, he bought this.
How do you think these games are becoming what?
Multi-multi-billion dollar franchises.
Because it allows people to gamify.
You know how many opportunities there is to gamify Twitter?
Like, you know how many, like, imagine if it says you can buy such and such for $100.
You can buy this for $200.
You can buy this for $60.
You can buy that for $700.
There's an element of allowing gamification for people to choose what kind of money they want to spend.
And you would be amazed.
If people are spending $4 million on a land in cyberspace or meta world just because this land is on a beach, you don't think there are some people that would be spending money on Twitter if you allowed them those types of opportunities where it gives them a unique position or unique place.
How much would it be?
I'll give you a perfect idea at our school.
Think about this.
When I say this idea, I want you to think about this.
So my school, okay, that kids go to, there's a, what do you call it, auction, okay?
I'm not going to give all my ideas.
I'm just going to give some of them for people to be thinking about.
We're at this auction.
And the number one parking space for your kid to park.
And I'm sitting on like parking space?
My kids are 10 years old.
Nobody dressed.
Okay, let me see where this thing goes to.
Number one parking space where the kid can park here and walk right into their classroom.
They don't have to walk 10 minutes.
They will never be late.
I'm like, okay, obviously I could care less about the spot because I don't have my kids that are 16.
And he's like, all right, $5,000.
I said, $5,000 is the start?
This is not going to go past $6,000.
$10.
Oh, my God.
$15.
Holy shit.
$20,000.
$25.
$30.
I'm like, be quiet.
$35,000 for the one parking spot.
Okay, let me ask you guys this crazy question.
How much is the real estate worth on Twitter when you log on to have the 10 people to your left to follow, follow the following people?
How much is that real estate worth?
Millions.
Millions?
Are you freaking kidding me?
It's that 10 million bucks.
Like, imagine go to your profile, right?
Who to follow?
You have all that freaking on the right side.
What the hell are you doing?
Wasting that space?
Let me pay for it.
Well, what is all this bullshit suggested stuff for?
Let me pay for the top 10 spot, the number one spot.
You know what I would sell the number one spot for for 30 days?
How much are people paying for FTX Arena to have their logo there?
$100 million.
$200 million for 10 years.
Dude, that's a $10 million a year position to have.
And some people would pay for it.
They would pay for it.
There are so many ways for Twitter to make money.
There has to be a capitalist that understands marketing and positioning to say, here's how we can bring revenues to Twitter.
So you're going to need content creators like a Mr. Beast.
You need Rogan.
You need people like that that are coming on there.
There has to be something with those guys.
You have to bring humor.
You have to bring fun.
You have to bring the news guys.
You have to give the news guys some kind of ranking, credit score.
There's so many things you can do to make this the most popular website in the flipping world.
But you need the right person to do that.
That's a great idea.
This could be a trillion dollar company.
But anyways, you just throw your hat in the ring for me.
No, I gave my ideas.
I just got a message.
There's a SpaceX spaceship that just landed in the back.
Elon's here.
He's going to hire Pat.
I will say this.
The one person we're all talking about, Elon.
The one person that he's not in the news, he's not in the headlines, but he's got just as much money as anybody, and he's just as competitive as anyone is Jeff Bezos.
Now you're starting to see rumors that like Amazon is developing their own TikTok-like strategy, stuff like that.
Elon's got so many eyeballs on him.
He can't operate.
He can't do anything clandestine at this point.
Hell no.
Bezos, he's not looking to be in the front page of the news.
He's not looking to be, you know, all up in the mix trolling like Elon.
I wouldn't count out Bezos for anything at this point.
No way.
He's got his own space company.
He's got his own newspaper.
Obviously, Amazon.
And now he's looking to compete with TikTok.
I don't know.
Bezos is not in the news these days.
When you don't hear his name, just don't think he's not up to anything.
Bezos is doing other things.
Bezos is doing other things.
He's having fun right now.
He's at a different phase.
Let's do one last story before we kick it off.
Do we want to do Kellyanne Conway?
Do we want to talk about Zelensky and his trip here?
Do you want to talk about China's economy won't be number one?
WSJ story?
Do you want to talk about Wells Fargo time?
What do you want about?
Tell me what story you guys want to talk about.
We'll go to it and wrap up.
I was going to say the Kellyanne Collins.
What is she doing going to dinner with Cuomo?
I saw that.
I'm like, is it just a photo op?
Or like, what?
I don't understand what the hell are they doing with the music?
Kellyanne Conway dishes on her eyebrow raising New York City dinner with disgraced U.S. ex-Governor Cuomo.
Donald Trump's former political advisor insisted Tuesday there was no amore in the air as she had a private late night meal with disgraced former New York governor Andrew Cuomo at a famous Upper East Side Italian restaurant.
Italians prefer eating to Zoom.
We would have invited his brother, Christopher, but it's unclear that he it's unclear that he eats carbs.
Cuomo is reporting currently single while the 55-year-old Conway is married to attorney and vocal Trump critic George Conway.
Nothing romantic.
I've known Cuomo family for decades.
Conway said the dinner's menu for discussion included how they both had podcasts with same company Quake Media and talk of various political issues on which they could find common ground.
Just what a random crazy like besides them they're on the same podcast company.
No.
I have an opinion.
Go with me here.
Okay.
I think Trump is interviewing candidates for VP.
He started looking at Kanye.
All right.
That's as crazy as it gets these days.
Okay.
He brought his boy Nick Fuentes.
Now he's like, all right, who shocks the system as much as anybody these days?
Andrew Cuomo?
I don't know.
There's a Trump play here.
Something's telling me Kellyanne Conway is still in touch with Trump.
For sure.
She was his best flag carrier, no doubt.
For sure.
And believe me, the topic of Trump did come up in this conversation at dinner.
And I don't know.
I think Trump is still looking for a VP.
And if there's anything that Trump likes, it's being in the headlines.
And, you know, if Kellyanne Conway and Cuomo, the disgraced handsy, touchy governor Cuomo, are having a meal together.
You know, Trump's name was brought up.
Crazy opinion.
Call it what it is.
But I don't know.
Wow.
Trump's done crazier things.
I don't know how to read it.
Or it's just a couple folks that run in political circles that have a respect for each other, perhaps, that just grabbed dinner over the holidays.
They're not dumb.
If there was really something romantic going on, they're not going to get seen at a restaurant like this.
Neither one of them is dumb, especially what he's been through and what she's been through with George.
I think there's a nothing burger.
I think it was a couple of operatives having a discussion.
I think Cuomo is far, far, far from the orbit of who could be, you know, the VP.
That's what I think.
I think it's a nothing burger.
It's Adam's fantasy.
I think Adam wants to vote for Trump, but only if Cuomo is the victim of the voice.
That's the way he's very weird people in videos.
That's the way he would be open to the idea.
Yeah, and I don't know if I think much of it, by the way, but at the same time, is she wearing a skirt?
She's looking like a raggedy.
I don't know what she's wearing.
And, you know, I don't know.
I'm a big fan of this, of her.
She's a talent, man.
There are certain people you want to have on your side.
She's one of them.
So, who needs this picture more?
Sheer him.
He does.
No question about it.
90-10.
So let me tell you: did he ask her, hey, can we go out to dinner?
I just want to go out to dinner.
I want to get a little buzz in the press.
I need to do some things.
I'm trying to get it.
No, I don't think so.
Cuomo is not going to go quietly into that good night.
There's going to be a revival at some point.
I mean, okay, he's not just going to be like, yeah, I'm disgraced.
I'm out retired.
We have not seen the last of the Cuomos.
I mean, his brother is back doing some podcasts.
I don't know who's watching it, but I mean, dude, is he?
I know how many women came forward.
Is he going to get in trouble?
I mean, there's no joke.
He's a politician, so he's not going to go to jail.
But how many staffers came out and said that he was sexually harassing and groping them?
Was there a number?
Enough to win a big election, baby.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, listen, it's come down to the end.
Today wasn't planned.
We decided last minute to do this podcast because we're not going to be together with you for a week.
But it's been a great run this year.
I think we got a couple podcasts we'll be doing next week after Christmas.
And then we have some big names that are coming up 2023 and some that may shock some of you that we're working on right now.
But a lot of interesting conversations are being had.
I want to wish everybody that's watching this a Merry Christmas.
If you've been with us from the beginning, or you just joined the podcast a year ago or six months ago, or you just joined us in the last month because somebody shared it with you and you've shared this with others.
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People will say that one time this.
So we appreciate your loyalty.
We appreciate you tuning in.
And we love the fact that you like the format that we have.
I want to wish you and your family a very, very Merry Christmas.
Enjoy it.
Have fun.
Enjoy the conversations.
Enjoy the meals.
And then we'll do this again after Christmas.
And then we'll get a chance to wish you a happy new year.
