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Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
0:00 - Start
4:45 - How the Hodgetwins got into Youtube
14:43 - The Hodgetwins values and principles
27:05 - The Hodgetwins on politics
39:48 - Why the Hodgetwins became conservatives
48:16 - The Hodgetwins on Donald Trump
1:00:13 - The Hodgetwins opinion on Donald Trump being indicted
1:08:40 - Why Nancy Pelosi is more presidential than Joe Biden
1:20:39 - Hillary Clinton’s message about Martha’s vineyard
1:26:31 - The beef between Gavin Newsom and Ron Desantis
1:37:02 - Kim Kardashian supporting Hillary Clinton
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Value payment, giving values contagious.
This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to hating.
I didn't run, homie, look what I become.
I'm the one.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
We have a special podcast today.
We have the Hodge twins.
And they tell me, when they walked in, I looked at their beard.
I mean, it's very hard to tell them apart.
They say the ladies can tell them apart.
So if you're watching this, let us know who's Keith, who's Kevin, who's sitting on the left or right.
And we'll be watching through the commentary to see if you have any idea of who's who.
If you don't know who they are, they're social media phenomenons.
They've been for a long time.
They have a YouTube channel with 2.5 million subscribers, former Marines.
They're professional, I mean, how should I put this in a diplomatic way?
Professional shit talk.
Shit talk.
I was just going to go entertaining, but here's the other part.
There's a difference between shit talking, but sometimes talking trash to the point where you make the audience think and say that kind of makes sense, you know?
So there's a different aspect to it where it's just purely entertainment purposes.
The other aspect is also wanting to get some people to think.
Interesting story about these guys.
Obviously, they're twins, but they've both been married for 15 years, I want to say.
One of you has 22 years.
And one of you has four kids.
One of you has three.
Unless if it's changed.
Right.
No, just three for me.
Not to my knowledge.
I think I got only 14.
You might have a couple out there.
Adam's kind of a guy.
Anyways, okay, so look, we got a lot of things to cover.
Obviously, we'll get into it here in a minute, but let me kind of preface what topics we're going to cover after we learn more about them at the beginning.
There's stuff that happened in Iran I want to talk about.
Something happened with ladies in Iran who are cutting their hairs as a form of protesting against the hijab.
And the morality police, you should have seen what happened just a couple of days ago.
I want to talk about that.
Armenia, what happened with Armenia against Azerbaijan?
That's been a pretty interesting event taking place there where Nancy Pelosi went and paid a visit to Armenia.
It's not a good situation.
Azerbaijan is purely bullying.
And a member of the parliament, imagine like a head of state getting up and reminding the Armenian people.
When I played this video for you and you hear what this man said, it's going to be very, very disturbing.
We had a massive crisis, folks, take place in Martha's Vineyard.
I mean, it's tragic events that these folks, there's 2 million people crossing the southern border, but God forbid if 50 are sent to Martha's Vineyard, they have to call, who they have to call Tyler?
That to call who?
They called the Army.
They called National Guard.
I think it was 125 National Guards for 50 immigrants.
They called the National Guard for 50 immigrants.
I mean, obviously, I'm sure you guys got some things to say about that.
Newsom, the other day, called out DeSantis for a debate, and I like DeSantis' rebuttal back to we'll get some commentary on that.
And then Kardashian had a meeting, a sit-down with 2021 Forbes woman of the year, Hillary Clinton.
I don't know if you guys are familiar with her.
They had a sit-down with her in Kardashian.
They had a legal quiz going back and forth, which was interesting.
And then we got a few other stories that we'll cover as well.
But aside from that, my sister bought this magazine yesterday.
We'll just do a little bit of trivia and have fun with this.
Okay, she bought this magazine yesterday.
She comes to the house.
We're playing Domino's.
Dylan again is back at it at eight years old, just kicking everyone's butt.
Aldo Pola, they won yesterday.
And it shows her estate.
And I want to ask you guys this.
Try to play along without Googling this and messing it up.
But Adam, I'm going to ask you, and Kevin Keith, I'm going to ask you guys as well here in a minute.
She had a big stamp collection on how much you think that was worth.
She had a big car collection, real estate portfolio on how big it was, her horse racing value, her royal collection of art, what that's worth.
But here's the one I really got a question I want to ask you guys: is the crown jewels.
She wears this crown jewels.
Okay, this is what it looks like.
Okay, I don't know if you've seen this or not.
Adam, that's what it looks like.
I want to know what you think that alone is worth.
In a minute, we'll go through it.
But at this point, Keith, Kevin, for folks who don't know your background, first of all, thanks for coming out.
Take right off the bat, just tell us a little bit about your story, how it came about to you guys becoming YouTube phenomenons today, where everyone's wanting to learn more about you guys.
Well, it started back in 2012.
No, 2010.
2010.
Yeah, it was actually, we're just, we wanted to be CPA's accountants.
Yeah.
But we had this job where we were insurance adjusters.
Right.
You mean serious right now?
You're joking.
Yeah, I'm serious.
We work for Triple A of Southern California.
Yeah.
Who the hell wants to get into insurance, by the way?
I just needed a job.
He said tax collectors.
Right.
Imagine these two showing up at your taxes are two motherfuckers.
Whatever you want, man.
You better pay it off.
Yeah, we were claiming just we had a we had no auto accidents.
And I came across YouTube.
YouTube was in its infancy at the time.
And I went to Kelsey, look, these people on YouTube.
Let's start doing videos.
We can be comedians.
Literally.
Yeah, he came to my cubicle, which his cubicle is right on across the mine.
He walks around and tells me, I said, what are you talking about?
I thought it was going to be certified public accounts.
Yeah.
Now, let me ask you: while you're doing that, did a video prompt you going to him or no?
Like, did you see something and say, dude, we can do better than these guys?
I don't know.
Yeah, well, we said, we saw a video.
I said, look at all these views these people getting.
These people are whack.
This is pride, you know?
Yeah.
So we started doing the videos.
But we were having a hard time finding the time to do it because we had full-time jobs at Triple A.
So we came up with the great idea on our lunch break at work.
We can go into the second floor.
There was a conference room with no signage or anything.
It was just an empty floor.
It was vacant.
So we would do our videos in there.
Somehow or another, HR found out that we're doing videos in there.
You forget how they found out.
They were investigating this one guy because he was passed up for promotion.
So we did some videos with him.
So when he went to his YouTube channel and they saw him talking trash about the company, there's me and Keith in several of his videos.
Yeah.
So what happened was they, HR, at the time I remember the economy at Tanked.
We were totally overstaffed.
This is 10, 2010.
This was, yeah, it was around 2011 or so.
God damn it.
So it was totally overstaffed.
So I remember me and Keith was coming back from lunch and we saw HR.
Right.
I was like, whenever you see HR, you're like, oh shit, somebody's going to get fired.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was this bald guy, bald white guy.
Right?
And he's reminiscing of what we got going on over here.
Right?
And shout out to Robert O'Rourke.
And he was obviously, not that it matters.
He was obviously gay.
He was a gay guy.
We got the same situation going on there, bro.
We're coming back from lunch and Kel's like, look, HR's here.
They're going to fire somebody.
And right before they walked in the building, they stopped and looked at us.
And then they walked back.
I was like, why the fuck are they looking at us like that?
Shit, you not.
I sit down, I clock back in.
Excuse me, Keith.
We have to see the conference room.
Let me tell you this.
You get it out of order.
We fucked you up.
So we sit down, right?
I'm at my cubicle.
And then, I remember the manager's out of the office.
The assistant manager came up and said, hey, Kevin, we need to talk to you for a moment.
I was like, oh, okay.
I totally forgot about HR.
So I'm sitting down, right?
And I said, oh, shit, there's the bald white gay guy.
So we sit down, he's got a female with him, and he started asking me questions, like loaded questions, like questions they already know the answer to.
And I was like, is this about the YouTube videos I'm doing?
I said, yeah, I do videos, but I don't say where I'm at.
There's no signage.
Nobody knows where I'm at.
I don't even tell people where I work at.
What's the problem?
He said, well, you're using some foul language.
I was like, y'all calling me in over some foul language over video that nobody knows where I'm at.
And it's during my lunch break where I'm off the clock.
So I lost it.
Literally.
Yeah, because that job was so demanding.
You would come in in the mornings on Monday.
Your queue was full of claims from the weekend.
I'm on the phone all day constantly.
You have no time to take a break.
And I was like, Pierce, I'm like, I come in here every day.
I bust my ass.
I don't make any problems or anything.
And you talk to me about some YouTube videos.
Some foul language that nobody heard.
I mean, so they was putting me on a message.
Now, did any one of them go and take off or not yet?
You guys haven't taken off yet.
Okay, got it.
So it's not like one got two million views and they're like, hey, everyone's calling me.
It was like 1,500 views, man.
It was got it.
Yeah, yeah.
So we getting like a verbal altercation.
They call security and all that.
And they escort me out.
Before they escort me out, I say, hey, it's with my twin brother.
I know if you're talking to me, you got to talk to my twin brother.
I said, where's Keith?
I went to his cubicle.
He's not there.
They already grabbed his ass.
So I'm walking all over the floor.
Hey, where's my fucking brother?
Right?
So I was like going in all the empty rooms.
Hey, hey, Keith over here.
Hey, hey, Larry, keep going here.
And then it's like, yeah, but I don't know nothing.
So I find Keith.
He's in the conference room sitting down with HR.
It was funny when I was in that talking.
They was asking me all these loaded questions.
I was like, and then all of a sudden the door busts open.
There you are.
These motherfuckers spitting the fire ass.
When you were hiding out, where were you at?
I was in another conference room on the other side of the building.
Being interrogated?
Just hanging out by the gay guy with the HR?
Yeah, yeah.
This guy's making moves.
So I looked at Kevin and then they had lost total control of the situation.
And they called security.
And we went back to our desk to like pack up our things.
And there was a lot of people.
People were actually crying because we had been there for like three or four years.
We were like really friendly guys with everybody knew us.
Oh, you've been working there for a while.
Oh, yeah.
I got you.
So I met my couple of secretaries that I always used to talk to them.
They were upset.
They were crying.
And it was just, and it was a horrible situation because at the time when I got fired, my wife was eight and a half months pregnant.
Right.
And I was like, so we was worried about the insurance thing and whatnot.
And my wife was like, get a real job.
YouTube's not a job.
So not at the time, for sure.
Yeah, not at the time.
But looking back on that, it was such a blessing for that to happen to us because that gave us literally a year of unemployment to see if we could make YouTube work.
And it eventually did.
And we wasn't making money the whole time.
Like the money we was earning, like 50 cents, 60 cent.
Oh, Keith made $2 this month.
Way to go.
And then, you know, we was on unemployment for, I think, 10, 11 months.
And right before we got off on unemployment, we made partner and we started earning a little money.
And we kept doing it, kept doing it.
And by the time our unemployment ran out, you know, we was able to, we wasn't making the same amount of money we was earning from AAA, but we was earning just enough to survive.
Yeah, and we always want to be like self-employed.
I never want to work for anybody else again.
And I thought this was a great opportunity to take advantage of that.
And I never would have thought it would have took the route that it did.
I had no idea I'd be here sitting talking to like famous people like you.
Famous people.
Famous rich people like you.
If I was in a bank vault, Bought out Chase Bacon.
Chase written AD.
That's right.
I never thought I'd make it this way.
Oh, yeah.
If I was in high school with you guys, like if I'm in 10th grade, who are you guys in high school?
I'm serious.
I was the shyest, weirdest kid you ever get out of here.
We were loners.
Yeah.
Seriously.
So this is in Virginia.
This is.
Yeah.
You guys are loners in high school.
Yeah, it was just us.
You're not class clowns.
You're not athletes.
You're not like.
We used to act up, but we was always together.
We were each other's best friends.
This class bounced, but it was like we was just so shy.
And I was like weird shy.
Yeah.
Socially awkward.
I remember.
Yeah, socially awkward.
I remember this is how weird we were as kids.
After a basketball game, we were in junior high.
We were walking home, right?
Yeah.
And these white girls pulled up.
I think it was after basketball practice.
No, it was after the game, I think.
Which one is it, guys?
Get it together.
That's one of those.
We're walking home, right?
And these white girls put up from our school.
Hey, Harsh Twins, where y'all going?
Just freaked out.
I took off.
You didn't dance.
You didn't spit any game.
You didn't holler.
You just ran away.
I was just weird, man.
You know, I wasn't gay or anything.
I was just, you know, he's just, he got.
But hey, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.
Were both of you guys like that with the ladies?
Yeah.
He just left me there and they're like, where's your brother going?
I was like, I don't know.
I'm going to go Jordan.
Wow.
So no sports.
Oh, we played sports.
Yeah, we played sports.
But as far as like, it was just like me and him, that's all we needed was each other.
We didn't need friends.
We never went about it.
Who created that for you guys to be close?
Did a parent play a role in this, or was it just the two of you guys?
I think a lot of it had to do because when we grew up, we was really, really poor.
Really poor.
We didn't have nice clothes.
We didn't have anything.
So we just stuck together.
So we stuck together because we didn't want to get bullied.
I remember we were.
Self-confidence was low.
Yeah.
Self-confidence because where we live, how poor we didn't have food most times.
So we just stuck together because we didn't have a lot of self-confidence as kids growing up because our childhood was so rough.
Everybody else was wearing like Jordans and we'll walk around with USA 500s from the dollar store and like that and wrestler jeans.
Everybody had Jordan.
Yeah.
It sucked.
Our first house that we lived in when we were kids, it didn't even have a bathroom, had an outhouse.
What year did you guys grow up in?
1920?
It's just us.
They're only four weeks older than me.
We're four weeks old.
And you're using out.
You guys had a birthday yesterday or two days ago, right?
You guys just had a birthday.
You're happy birthday.
You know what I mean?
So, so, so, mom, dad, any what values were injected?
Like, give us a paint a picture of what values were injected growing up in the two of you guys.
Was it, hey, you got to work hard?
Hey, you got to respect people.
Hey, you know, you got to read books.
What were some of the values?
My dad, he worked two jobs.
He was a barber and he worked at this, like it was Phil Crest.
It's like a textile mill.
And he was never home because he always had two jobs.
And my mom was like really Christian and she always told us to do the right thing and never do drugs or you'll wind up like your cousin.
He's on drugs and you don't want to be like them.
But my dad, he worked really hard.
Actually, one of his jobs eventually killed him.
He caught some disease at his work from breathing in cotton.
Yeah.
And it killed him.
How old were you guys?
He actually died on my 14th birthday.
On your 14th?
How did that affect you guys?
Man, it was terrible.
It was rough.
Yeah.
I mean, it's been so long ago, but and then I had an older brother who went into the military.
So that was somebody else to look up to.
And a lot of my friends looking back on it, they didn't have any dads.
Yeah.
I didn't realize it at the time, but all my close friends, all my close black friends, none of them, they had a mom, they had a grandma.
Yeah.
No dad.
I never noticed any of that stuff.
But when I look back on it, at least I had a dad.
I think that's what kept us in line.
Wow.
Because a lot of those guys stay unfortunate for them, they got locked up, you know.
And was there a relationship with pops?
Were you guys close for the 14 years?
Like, was there any kind of like you played sports?
My daddy.
Yeah.
He's a big guy.
He was mean.
Well, he didn't really, daddy didn't really talk much.
The only time you saw daddy is when you fucked up and he was beating your ass.
And he would beat our ass.
Oh, man.
Like, old school or new school?
Old school.
If daddy was allowed today doing this shit, he'd be locked up.
You can't do that shit.
He did that.
Who was the running back that got in trouble for whooping his kids?
Oh, Peterson.
Adrian Peterson.
He made Peterson like the Pope.
You know, he got knocked out last week, by the way.
Peterson did.
He against the Bell.
Le'Veon La'Veon Bell.
Le'Veon Bell was the other running back.
Yeah, he knocked up Peterson.
Can we stay here on this dad concept?
Yeah, because we just came back from Madrid.
We were interviewing Andrew Tate.
I'm sure you're familiar with him.
Yeah, exactly.
And a major focal point of the interview was the role of a father, the role of a man, the role of what Andrew Tate's dad, the influence he had over him and his brother, the role that Pat's dad, Gabriel, had over him.
And you said that your dad passed away when you were 14, but he was a badass dude, would whoop your ass, all that.
But you appreciated the fact that at least you had a father.
You're talking about the fact that all your friends didn't even have a father.
You didn't even realize it.
Meaning it was just completely normal in your lifestyle, right?
Right.
And then when did this epiphany hit you?
And what happened to all your friends that didn't have fathers?
I think this is something that young men are lacking these days.
A male influence, a male figure, leadership.
Go ahead.
You know what?
My dad really didn't talk much, but I saw what he did each and every day.
That was a huge influence on me, what my dad had to go through as far as working two jobs.
And I think that's very important for just men in general because if you don't have a father figure in your life, you're going to be like a woman, actually, if that's who's raising you.
You're going to be like an angry woman.
Yeah.
Women are typically emotional.
And you don't want your men to be emotional.
That's like a nightmare for men.
And as far as my mom, she really battled with a lot of self-confidence because my mom, she grew up during Jim Crow.
So by the time I was an adult, and I was 18, I was traumatized about white people being racist because that's what she endured when she was growing up because she actually lived through Jim Crow and all that.
What would she tell you guys?
So, hey, Keith, Kevin, just make sure when you're going on the streets and when you go to school, if they're white men, what were some of the mindsets that were instilled in you?
What specifically?
Well, my mama was, for the most part, was traumatized by racism.
Everything she looked at was through a lens of black versus white because that's what she experienced.
Makes sense.
So when I graduated and I went to school, and when I went on to the military, I looked at white people totally different than what I do now because I heard all the horror stuff growing up as a kid.
I lost my father.
He wasn't in my life, but my mother was in my life.
But what she instilled in us is just fear of racism.
Fear of racism?
Like fear of people judging you based on your color?
Okay.
It wasn't like, hey, son, in America, you can do whatever you want in your life as long as you do the work and you read.
Is that what she's saying or no?
She's saying the opposite.
We had a lot of experience with racism.
I remember Keith was a spelling bee.
He's in a big time speller.
So Keith, he actually, this is my story.
This is sixth grade.
I was really, I seen kids on TV going through the spelling bee and winning.
I was like, I want to be that guy.
Right?
So I would sit home.
So I wanted to be that guy.
So I remember a spelling bee was announced.
It was two months about something.
I'm going to enter this.
So I was sitting home just going over the list of words that's going to be, you know, asked to spell.
And I remember Kevin's like, man, you suck.
You want to be a spelling bee, K.
But anyway, I studied my ass off and it came down to me and this white kid.
I remember his name was Croy.
Remember him?
Yeah, yeah.
Croy Troy.
Oh, Troy.
Sorry, that's my southern dialect coming through here.
Troy.
And they asked me, they came to me and said, spell almanac.
I remember it to this day.
I'll never.
I said, almanac.
I got this one.
I know how to spell this shit.
I said, almanac.
A-L-M-A-N-A-C almanac.
Correct.
Then she said, I'm sorry, you misspelled it the correct spelling.
And it's this.
And I was like, no, I spelled that correctly.
And then it's like, no.
And then she spelled it.
And I was like, that's what I just said.
And then they escorted me off the stage.
And the white kid won.
And I was so pissed.
But I didn't realize it was racism at the time.
I just thought I messed up.
So I had this one teacher named Miss B.
She was a black teacher.
She was the meanest woman.
Nobody wanted a class.
All the white students.
Meanest black woman in the world.
None of the black students.
Oh, man.
You got Miss B for oh my God.
She's the worst.
No black kid wanted her.
She was just strict.
And she was black.
And she was real hard on the black kids.
Real hard.
Yeah.
In a good way or a bad way.
In a good way.
I remember.
This black girl showed up.
She had.
Wait, let me just let me know.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, no, no, no.
This small girl.
There was this girl named Sonora.
She showed up.
She had dark red, bright lipstick.
Yeah.
She was a dark-skinned girl.
Miss Drew actually took her, bent over me, and powdered her and made her wipe off all the lipstick and told her she look like a prostitute.
Wow.
This is your girl, Miss B.
Yeah, Miss Drew.
Miss Group.
Miss Drew.
What was it?
Miss Drew.
Miss Group?
Miss Drew.
But anyway, back before I was rudely interrupted.
By your brother.
Yeah.
After the spelling be, I was kind of like in tears.
I was pissed.
By the way, you spelled it correctly.
I spoke it correctly.
I saw Back to the Future too.
I'm very familiar with the concept of the almanac.
You spelled it right.
Right.
So I go to Miss Drew and she's crying.
And she was like, and that's the first time she ever said anything nice to me.
She's like, I'm so proud of you.
Right?
I was like, but Miss Drew, I spelled the word correctly.
She said, no, honey, it's just some things you don't understand right now.
Right?
Yeah.
And she explained to me, I was like, really?
Well, this is fucking bullshit.
Now, the community you live in, what's the split?
What percentage is African-American?
What percentage is white?
We actually grew up in a poor white neighborhood.
We lived in a poor black neighborhood before, but then my dad said, let's go live with these poor white people.
I can put up with the racist jokes.
I can't put up with all this damn crime and murder and drugs.
So we grew up in a poor white neighborhood.
That's crazy perspective, right there, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To see if you have a choice between crime, you know, all of that versus the racism.
Yeah.
Father chose the pain of having to deal with that over potentially losing your kids.
Very interesting.
And he actually said that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a lot safer.
I mean, that was a, it was the west end of town where all the black people lived in the city.
And no, they chose over there.
Don't forget, Keith, we got after basketball practice one day, one of the teammates.
Yeah, sixth grade, sixth grade.
Sixth grade actually pulled a gun on me and Keith.
Yeah, before basketball and said, give me all your money.
I said, man, you're robbing the poorest black kid in the town.
This is a white kid or a black kid?
It's a white kid.
This is before the kids.
Sixth grade.
They tried to rob two broke-ass brothers.
Yeah, but there was two black guys in town.
What'd you give them?
I think I gave him a quarter.
And I think I had a couple of shiny red pennies.
That's all he got.
Yeah.
Wow.
And that was on the black side of town.
And this kid was our age.
What was we?
12, 13.
He's already got it.
I think it was 10, 11.
Yeah, and he put it right to our face and robbed us.
But the coach saw him.
Yeah.
And they called us in the school the next day.
He said, what happened?
I said, yeah.
Michael pulled a gun on me and then he and they said, and then they expelled him.
Funny thing is, we went home.
We was in the military.
We went home and went to the West End where we used to play basketball.
Just to reminisce.
And then we saw the guy that pull a gun.
He said, oh, and he took off.
I said, that was Michael.
Let's get the hell out of here.
He's probably going to come back and finish this.
That's like a white man can't jump.
I'm going to my car.
Can I ask you guys a question about this?
I think it's very powerful.
What you just said that you grew up, your mother was born and raised Jim Crow, dealing with all that.
You were raised amongst mostly black people.
You moved to the poor side of town, all white people.
What lessons did you learn about white people?
Because your mother made you very scared of white people, I assume, right?
Basically, the lessons she was teaching you.
But here you are in a poor area of white people, right?
It's not like these are privileged white people or even like, you know, blue-collar East Coast racism white people.
These are trailer charts.
I remember playing with my friend.
I ain't going to mention his name.
He came to one of my comedy shows.
But every time we would be playing with them, when we come up and they start playing with them, all of a sudden he would have to always go inside, right?
His mom didn't like us.
Yeah, his mom didn't like us.
I said, hey, man, why y'all keep going inside?
You know?
He said, oh, my mom don't like niggas.
Said this.
Yeah.
Damn.
He started laughing.
I kind of started laughing too.
I was like, you don't say.
Because my mom already knew.
She already told me.
Yeah, that's already doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so what, what, what happened?
So from this upbringing that you have, extreme, which in a way, I know it's going to sound weird, but you have the best of uh, you have the worst of both worlds, right?
You have the one side to see what it really looks like, and then the other side is what racism looks like.
So then you guys joined, do you guys join the Marines at the same time or no?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys go to the same unit, same everything?
Is it the same MOS or no?
Was it different?
No, it's all different.
We got split up.
They didn't, uh, our recruiter thought it'd be a bad idea if two identical twins went the Marine Corps at the same time.
So we went in like three weeks apart.
Yeah.
And then not the same unit or same base.
No, no, first battalion, third battalion.
We're at?
Parisal.
Parasolid.
Oh, so same, same base, but just not the same unit.
Right.
You still had a chance to have fun together, though.
I mean, no, holy song.
Not Marine Corps boot camp.
No, I thought I was going to be like, I got you.
Boot camp.
I got you.
So was it active or was it resigned?
And then where did you go to after boot camp?
I went to San Diego.
Kevin went to Tustin.
Yeah.
MCS Tustin.
It was an old Air Wing.
They closed down when I was getting out.
I remember George Bush was closing down a bunch of bases.
We went from MCS Tustin to MCS El Toro.
Then he took El Toro to, I think it was MCS Miramar in San Diego.
At what point are you guys like at this point, politics?
What role does politics play in your life at 18 years old going into boot camp?
I thought all Republicans was racist.
I thought all white people was racist.
I was raised to be a Democrat.
My mama always taught us to say, see, look, Democrats are for blacks.
Republicans are for whites.
She taught me that from as young as I can remember, like five, six, seven years old.
I remember watching the debate, and then she always up and down.
She couldn't stand Republican.
What was the reasoning?
Because she linked Republicans to racism.
Is that kind of like she was very naive when it came to politics?
Mom had no idea that Jim Crow was by Democrats.
She had no idea that the KKK was started by the Democrats.
She had no idea.
My mama's a good woman, but she ain't no shit about politics.
Yeah.
That's a lot of ours, though, right?
I mean, if you look at a lot of our, you know, who raises us, they don't sit there and go.
So what event caused you guys to get a little bit more into it and get interested?
Was it this insurance job that you guys had there?
I would say it's my older brother.
He was a Republican.
He used to put things in my ear, but I just thought he was an uncle Tom at the time.
Yeah.
You know, I guess I think over time, as you like live your life and you have experiences with other people that look like you, you start to develop like, you know what?
I have control over my life.
If I make good decisions, I will go for it.
It has nothing to do with my skin color.
And I think we just both saw that over time.
Yeah.
I remember when we first came across, I didn't know the difference between a liberal and a conservative.
I came across Ben Shapiro, right?
I remember he was on Pierce Morgan show.
They was going at.
Guns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
NRA, Second Amendment.
So I was a batshit crazy liberal at the time.
So I'm like looking at Ben Shapiro and I was like, oh man, that white supremacist, he's got to answer for everything, you know?
And then I found out that he was Jewish.
It's like, wait a minute.
How can a white supremacist be Jewish?
Those two don't go together.
Yeah.
So I started listening.
Then after I watched Ben Shapiro, even though I hated everything he said, everything he said made sense.
Then I came across Larry Elder.
I started looking at Larry.
And then Keith came across Mark Levin on the radio.
People would just listen to him because he was always talking shit about Obama.
We just thought he was racist.
But the boy you listened to him, it's like, it's dude starting to make sense.
Yeah.
Now, who's introducing you to this stuff?
Is it your older brother or are you just coming across it?
YouTube.
I got you.
And are you guys living together at this time after the Marines?
No, we're not living together at the time.
But I remember I started seeing Kelvin said, man, look at this new Ben Shapiro.
He's killing this black guy over here.
And it's just common sense, really.
I think conservatism, the scene, conservatism, all it is is common sense.
Yeah, if you just sit and listen to both sides and just be objective and listen to what both sides are offering, I literally do not understand how anybody could be a Democrat these days.
I mean, you got women competing against men.
You got, they're pushing all this stuff on kids with the drag queens and hysterectomies for girls before they're going to puberty because they want to be a man.
I mean, this shit is, this is a freeing stuff.
This should not be being pushed mainstream like it is.
I think the breaking point for us was I voted for Obama his first term because I thought, you know, I didn't really know.
I just voted for him because he was black.
At least I was honest about it.
Yeah, I'm being honest about it.
But he was the eye-opening after Obama, and I started listening to both sides.
I hated Obama so much, I actually voted for Mitt Romney.
Yeah, think of that.
Yeah.
From Obama.
To flip to Mitt Romney.
Yeah, he was the only option.
Wow.
How did that happen?
Yeah.
Think about that.
When Obama ran, think about this.
It was Mitt Romney and John McCain.
In 08, it was McCain in 12 years.
That's correct.
That was the Republican option.
I think I'm not too much into conspiracy theorists.
It's like they almost set Obama up to be president.
Yeah.
They almost set him up to be president as a one-term senator.
What do you mean, set them up?
Yeah, like they planned it, like they wanted a black president.
Yeah, it's like they're both liberal.
I mean, like McCain.
He's both liberal.
McCain.
I mean, they're Republicans, but they're liberal.
The way they vote, the way they, their views, it's liberal.
Like, Mitt Romney is not a Republican.
You know what I mean?
McCain, he's a Republican, but no, he's really not a conservative.
It's like that was your only option if you didn't want to see Obama.
Well, don't, these people are called rhinos, right?
Republicans and names only.
So the problem with, you know, we can kind of talk Democrats, Republicans, what conservatives these days, but the contingency where you're talking about Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger, the people who are not, you know, Republicans, these are traditionally what Republicans are.
Now it's MAGA, right?
So there's this kind of infighting within that.
I don't even think.
But they would say that MAGA is not traditional Republican.
So how do you process that?
I just think there's a bunch of disinformation.
MAGA, I mean, Trump is not the Republican Party.
Correct.
MAGA is not the Republican Party.
Correct.
The Republican Party now are conservatives.
People who believe in conservatism, the Constitution.
That's what the Republican Party is.
It's not MAGA.
It's not Trump.
Trump galvanized the constitutionalists who are on the right, but he is not the Republican Party.
That's just propaganda.
That's all that is.
But do you actually think that's using that to discredit the Republican Party?
Sure, they are.
But do you actually think when you define conservatism, the first thing you go to is the Constitution?
Because that's not where I go whatsoever.
I don't think 99 out of 100 Americans can tell you what the hell the Constitution says, left, right, or center.
So the same way.
I'm saying freedom of speech, freedom to carry a weapon.
Yeah.
Freedom to assembly, freedom to go to work.
I mean, just basic rights that we have under the Constitution and over this last pandemic, they took all that away from us.
Even the Republicans initially shut everything down, but over time, the Republicans was the party that said, hey, we're hiding from a virus.
This is stupid.
You can't hide.
You can't run from a virus.
It's time to go back to work and live our lives.
But the only people that remain that shut everything down and want to hide from it was the Democrats.
Yeah, Republicans just believe in freedom.
Let me live my life.
And Democrats think they know how to live everybody's life for them.
I'm not for that.
That's the Republican Party in my eyes.
Also, Republicans just want to be left alone.
Democrats wants to be in everybody's life, it seems like to me.
Yeah.
Well, no, you're absolutely right.
I mean, we're living in a state which is called the free state of Florida.
There's no doubt that Florida DeSantis has led the way in terms of freedom.
You guys were living where during the pandemic?
We was in Nevada.
You're in Nevada.
Okay.
And how did your state handle the pandemic?
Masks, shutdowns, just stupidity.
Okay, because we've been in Vegas a couple of times, right, Pat?
And the first time we were there, I mean, it was like desolate.
Yeah.
And it killed him because everything in Vegas is tourism.
Right.
So it really bit them in the ass in the long run.
We had to eventually open it.
We were the first ones that did an event when they opened it up.
And it was a surprise to everybody when they did open it up.
But let's keep going here because, again, my interest is how you guys went from mom and dad, how you were raised.
14 years old, you lose your dad because you said a place he was working at where he goes on your birthday, which is talk about a day that you're going to remember for the rest of your life.
And then on the other side, mom is saying, hey, racist, be careful, guys, all this other stuff.
Then you go to the military.
Your older brother's kind of like feeding you some stuff on the conservative side.
Then you hear some Ben Shapiro, Larry Elder.
You see some Mark Living, and you're like, hey, this kind of stuff makes sense as a conservative as you're growing up.
So at what point did you guys say we want to talk about this?
When you created the YouTube channel, did you think you were going to go that route or was it more, you know, let's review some supplements.
Let's test this out and let's do that.
And let's do more about just having fun.
Okay.
Talk about current events and fitness, relationships, just having fun.
Then over time, you know, we saw the direction the country was going in.
I remember the breaking point for us was when the kid that was in Texas, he went to a water burger and he was wearing his MAGA hat.
Yeah.
Remember, he got attacked before I took it from him.
So he came up with a bright idea.
Say, hey, let's don't say what we are because we hadn't came out of the closet yet.
So we came out of the closet.
Yeah, it was closeted conservative.
So your audience doesn't know yet.
They have no idea.
How long have you been creating content without them knowing about it?
We've been on YouTube since four, five, six years.
Oh, so you go on six years, they don't know.
So the first time you choose to do it is to wear MAGA hats.
Yeah.
Okay, and how does that work out?
Yeah, well, we told you.
You know what?
Before I cut you off, we used to take, because we always love the cops.
We would always, people, oh, I love you, your channel, what you do.
Relationship is funny.
We would take pictures with cops.
And I love cops because without cops, we don't even have a society.
This place is overran by thugs and criminals, you know?
So every time we'd take a picture with a cop, just to show our gratitude for police, we would always get these crazy comments.
Yeah, we'll post a picture on Instagram.
It's just like, man, y'all taking pictures with cops?
Do you know your history?
Is it black people talking shit?
Oh, black people.
If you want to all black people with Tupac emojis.
I mean, there's ignorant people, whether you're white or black.
But if you want to see a real ignorant person, go check out a black dog.
They take ignorance to a whole new level.
Well, how many times has a black person called you an Uncle Tom?
I'm sure you've lost count.
I'd be as rich as him.
But walk me through that process because as a black person, you guys are both black guys.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah.
I mean, you kind of, you're that good, you know, light station.
You kind of like that.
But wait a minute.
I want to hear the story.
They didn't tell the story.
Let them finish their story with the hat.
So what happens?
So yeah, there's a story coming up.
Yeah, Keith said, let's do a video.
Let's don't tell them that we're conservative.
It's going to come down the middle.
Common sense, right?
So we did the video on Instagram, posted it.
All we said in the video, nobody should ever be attacked for wearing a hat.
First Amendment right, right?
Yeah.
So we, I think we even say in the video, if you got Obama shirt, nobody should attack you.
If you got a Trump shirt, nobody should attack you.
That's your freedom.
That's the right you haven't.
This is America.
This is America, right?
We treasure First Amendment right in this country.
We put the video up, right?
And when we put it up, you know how you go on the Instagram, you can look at your statistics.
Yeah.
Man, it looked like Bitcoin.
Straight down.
We lost like 50,000, 15,000 followers in an hour.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, that really pissed me off.
And I was like, I got a bunch of liberal.
I can't say the F-word.
That's derogatory.
I got a bunch of liberals.
And it just really, man, it pissed me off so much.
These people have been watching me for years.
And for them to just throw me away like I'm a used condom, just like that, because of that video.
So it really galvanized us.
I said, you know what?
Let's start doing political content.
I don't want these people following me anymore.
Halfway through it, like a week into it, I was like, man, this is career suicide when we do it.
But we never knew conservatives were going to come out and support us the way they did.
We're more popular than we've ever been.
Where were you at the time when you lost the 15,000?
How many subscribers?
We were around 475,000 followers on Instagram.
And now we are well over.
It fell like almost, I think it almost got so bad, we almost fell under 400,000.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because of the post.
Because of that one post.
Because we started with the colours.
I never wore the MAGA hat.
I didn't even say I was a Trump supporter.
I just said nobody should be attacked.
That's all we said.
Oh, wait a minute.
So you never put the hat on.
You never supported.
You just said nobody should attack.
Nobody should be attacked.
And that cost you 15,000 same within an hour?
Within an hour.
Shit fell off the table like Bitcoin.
Holy shit.
And then, but like I said, it like really pushed us to start doing political content.
And it's hard talking about politics because it's so, you get pissed off just talking about it.
Who was the first, like if you were to say, you know how sometimes, like, you know, we do the interview with Tate.
Okay.
So, hey, man, you know, we're going to see what's going to happen.
And then all of a sudden, the people that send you a message, like, wait, you follow that?
I agree with everything the guy says.
I just can't say publicly.
I agree with, and these are people in Hollywood and sports are like just DMing me, non-stop, non-stop, non-stop.
And many of these interviews you do, you'll see who likes it.
Like, we'll do the mob interviews and interesting communities.
Like, hey, I watch all the mob in it.
We'll do bodybuilding.
The bodybuilding people show up.
Who were some of the first big names that messaged you to say, hey, man, we support you.
Keep at it.
We got your back.
Where you said we're not alone?
Well, a lot of people that's in Hollywood, they unfollow me immediately.
Yeah.
Never heard from them again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the black ones anyway.
But did you get, did you, when you said you started getting support?
I mean, who was a name where you said, wow, this guy supports us?
Pro-football players from the Dallas Cowboys, pro-baseball players.
Any political commentators?
Any political comment?
Like, did you hear from Larry Elder?
Did you hear from Bongino?
Did you hear from Candace?
Did you hear from any of these guys at the time?
Of course, now everybody knows who you are.
I'm just saying at the time.
They didn't reach out person, but they would retweet our tweets.
That's a form of support.
Yeah.
But as far as the whole Uncle Tom stuff, that really stems from, you know, black people think as a black person, you have to vote Democrat.
So they're not actually thinking with their mind using their brain when they vote.
They think with their skin color.
So when they see me vote for Republican, they start to project and think I'm voting for Republicans because I love white people.
I want to be white or I want to have white friends or white girlfriends.
That's the dumb shit I hear.
But it has nothing to do with race while we're Republican.
Black people have not realized why I'm Republican.
It has nothing to do with my race.
I understand why you vote Democrats because you're black and you think the Democrat Party own your vote.
Joe Biden thinks it too.
He said, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
I mean, I get that, but that's not why I'm Republican.
It has nothing to do with race.
It has everything to do with freedom and how I'm living my life.
So Keith Kevin.
Yes.
By the way, I'm starting to realize the difference.
If I see you in the street, he's looking at me immediately.
No, you got a different smile than he's got.
It's all in the eyes.
Eyes is how I tell you guys apart.
Nothing more.
Not color of the eyes, but the eyes have a different look.
Okay.
But Keith, question for you.
So, you know, for you, what you say, I don't understand it's common sense to be a conservative, right?
I don't even know how somebody could be a Democrat today.
So, okay, there's a lot of people on the other side that have fancy degrees that are very well off, that are financially well off.
Some of them are billionaires.
A lot of them are billionaires.
You can't tell me they're dummies to be billionaires.
They're not dummies.
Why do you think they're Democrats?
Why do you think they're Democrats?
Well, first of all, they're successful because they're in the greatest country in the world.
Okay.
First and foremost.
The reason why they're Democrat is they're not thinking rationally.
They're not thinking logically.
They're not using logic at all.
I don't see how anybody could support the Democratic Party with that policy.
How would they become billionaires?
Because to become very successful in life, you have to be able to reason and to be able to stretch a dollar.
You have to be able to hire the right people.
You have to be able to put systems together to raise capital.
You know, you have to do a lot of those things to be able to succeed, regardless of where you are politically.
Why do you think these people still?
Democrats use emotion to gain votes.
Just like what happened in Georgia.
They're trying to change around the voting.
They want voter ID.
How did the Democrats spend that?
They call it Jim Crow.
This is racism.
They actually moved the Major League Baseball game out of Atlantic, Georgia to Colorado.
They use emotion for votes.
Once you can grab somebody emotionally, they stop thinking.
Tell a black person somebody's racist.
Oh, that's all they need to hear.
That's it.
You don't have to use logic to know racism and bad.
So when they hear that, they believe it.
Yeah, I think a majority of billionaires are liberal because they don't think for the little man.
I mean, if I'm a billionaire, the first thing, I don't see why any billionaire would want to be a conservative to begin with because to be a conservative, man, you think about everybody.
As far as a billionaire, it doesn't mean you, just because you're a billionaire, you're a rational or logical thinker.
All you're thinking about, all you have for the most part is great ideas for a business.
You put out a great idea and everybody gravitates towards it.
And that's how you can earn lots and lots of money based on ideas.
Does that mean the so let's identify it as that?
So at this point, you know, by the way, I'm playing the devil's advocates.
I'm just trying to enjoy a good debate here.
So let's identify the fact that people who are billionaires, they're great at being creative and coming up with the best ideas.
Does that also mean that the left has given them better ideas to bind to to vote for because they're attracted by their ideas?
Because look, it's either messaging, it's either delivery of messaging, it's either how you deliver your message, how you present your message.
Democrats are actually better politicians than Republicans.
Yeah.
Republicans rely on the truth to push out their message.
Democrats play politics.
Yeah.
They do a lot of Addenhamin attacks.
They do a lot of things that, you know, intellectuals should not do in any civil debate.
They say things they call people like racism.
As a black man, the first thing when I heard somebody say somebody's racist, I didn't even double check it.
I automatically assume they're racist because I was traumatized ever since I was a young age.
So whenever I see a Democrat say the other side is racist, they're being intellectually dishonest because they already know for black people, when they hear that word, you're traumatized.
That's a great thing for black people.
Do you think that's why?
So, okay, so now we're getting to a point of they're able to tap into the emotional side.
Republicans are kind of like, this is the truth.
How do you not understand it?
This is logical, you know.
But, you know, the whole saying about facts tell stories sell.
You know, Republicans are trying to sell facts and people are like, you're not emotionally.
So going back to the whole thing with the emotional side.
Okay.
So I'll tell you like this, Patrick.
Democrats, they sell victimhood.
Nobody wants to be able to, like Republicans, it's all about pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
You know, as far as when it comes to Democrats, they like to sell victimhood.
It's very hard to convince somebody that you are the problem.
Like, it's not your government.
It's not society.
It's not racism.
Your life is based on the ideas you come up with and how nobody likes that.
Nobody wants to hear that.
And that's a very hard sell.
That's a very hard sell.
Very good point.
Yeah, everybody wants to hear, oh, it's not my fault.
It's the government's fault.
That's not my fault.
It's racism.
That's why, I mean, as far as being a Democrat, they do have, you know, they have it a lot easier when they present their message because a lot of these things that they share with people about racism, transphobia, all these things, a majority of them are just made-up terms to divide everybody so they can grab your vote.
They could care less about society if you ask me, a Democrat.
Like the one thing about trans people, they are high suicide rates.
They die at a high rate than other people.
I heard Joe Biden say that.
Trans people are dying all the time.
Well, he never says why they're dying.
Why are they dying?
Are they dying because they're transgender, somebody's killing transgenders?
Or are they dying because they participate in risky activities?
Or risky behavior.
Or risky behavior.
Or mental health issues.
Or mental health issues.
It's leading that.
For sure.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I understand that's happening, but why is it happening?
Why don't we address why it's happening?
Yeah.
Instead, if saying, explain why it's happening, they'd say it's as a result of transphobia.
Yeah, white supremacy.
And then they call us transphobic.
You know what I mean?
Comedy shows, we got canceled because they label us transphobic when I'm not transphobic at all.
Yeah, like nobody, like they always, we had like three or four shows canceled.
Like a lot of people don't know.
My youngest son, his babysitter was transgender.
Nobody knows that.
Yeah.
She only lived in Virginia.
Yeah, she was a female.
She went to live her life as a man.
She's transgender.
Every time she came there, she's looking at entertainment television, looking at a bunch of drag shows.
I didn't fire her.
I didn't throw out of the house.
When she came and sat me down and said, hey, I'm going to start transitioning.
I was like, we need transitioning.
You got to give me two weeks' notice before I transitioned.
That's the first time I came across it.
Yeah.
I didn't fire her.
We still know her.
Still talk to her from time to time.
I'm not transphobic.
So, so do you think, do you think this whole thing with emotional logic?
Okay.
So I'm going to go to an interesting place here with our friend Adam.
So emotion and logic.
Do you think maybe, you know, say the left is willing to play dirty politics where maybe the right doesn't get as dirty as they do?
Hypothetically, a lot of people say this.
Okay.
Absolutely.
But a politician.
Do you think this is why they lost their minds when they found an equal match and a guy that was willing to get dirty and play the emotional game as Trump did?
Yeah, and he's not part of the whole political system because like the Bushes, I mean, they've been in the Trump is not a politician.
Yeah.
Like when I look at Obama, you can listen to him.
He's a great talker.
He's very charismatic.
He makes you feel good inside.
When I sit down and listen to Trump, if I'm a malcontented person, I feel horrible about myself.
Right?
He gives tough love.
He tells it like it is.
He's not going to sugarcoat anything.
I mean, he could take some lessons from Ron DeSantis.
Don't get me wrong.
But Trump is not a politician.
He's like a UFC fighter.
He's going to, like when he started going at it with Rand Paul.
I mean, that wasn't a debate.
That was bullying.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's why all the conservatives gravitated towards him because we just went through Mitt Romney and McCain.
Yeah.
And Rand Paul's a patriot.
I love Rand Paul.
Yeah.
He's an intelligent guy.
He just pushed Fauci again this last time.
Oh, man.
He's all over Fauci.
Yeah.
So you're saying, so you're saying him, he came in.
So for you, do you see a DeSantis now looking at what worked?
I almost see like DeSantis a very good student, by the way.
Because DeSantis, you know, in sports, the NBA changes every once in a while.
So 30 years ago, to win a championship, you needed a big man.
So it was Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, like everybody needed a big man.
Yeah, Ewing.
We got to go get our big man.
Randall's like, no, no, you really don't.
You need a good two guard or you needed this or you needed that.
And I know we're going to do our, you know, what do you call the Boston when they had Ray Allen?
You need a big three.
So LeBron, Bosch, and all this guys.
I see DeSantis sitting there as a student watching and saying, let me tell you, Romney didn't work.
McCain didn't work.
But this guy made every one of them feel so uncomfortable because he shot fires first.
That's what I'm going to do.
And DeSantis, in his own way, is practicing his trolling abilities.
Because if you go back to DeSantis four years ago, he wasn't a guy that was a troll.
I don't know if you, I don't remember DeSantis being a troll, but now you're seeing the top gov. Now you're seeing all this stuff that he's doing.
Is he trying to say, for those of you that like that part of Trump, don't worry, I'm going to do that as well.
And you get that as well, on top of the right policies.
I see a little bit of that in him, but he still, when he says something, you can't twist his words.
You can very easily take Trump's words and twist them around.
You can't do that with Ron DeSantis.
When Trump said about, you know, the whole kneeling thing was going on.
Yeah.
And Trump said, fire those sons of bitches, throw them out.
I'm like, you're not going to get the black vote calling those black football players mom sons of bitches.
Yeah.
I mean, what do you think?
I mean, I liked it.
I liked it.
Fire them.
Get them out of here.
You shouldn't be protesting our flag.
Protest injustice.
Don't protest our flag.
Yeah.
But that's their right to protest.
That's their right to protest.
And I'm not saying they don't have the right to do so, but it's also such a thing as an effective protest.
That protest was very ineffective.
You divided the country when you do that.
If you really want to bring people together, hold up signs of white and black people who's been killed and murdered by the cops that you feel that was unjust.
Yeah, hold up the flag because the flag, that flag stands for freedom for us all.
Yeah.
Instead of coming out with Black Lives Matter, it should have been All Lives Matter.
If you really, but no, it wasn't about bringing things about police brutality.
It's about dividing this country.
If they really want to bring us together in police brutality, there's a man that died just like George Ford.
His name was, last name was Tippa.
It occurred in Texas.
He died the exact same way.
Those cops are still on the force while the cop that, you know, kneeled on George Floyd, he's in prison.
Because it's not about bringing people together.
It's not about police brutality.
Black Lives Matter was all about keeping black people thinking a certain way so they'll vote a certain way.
That's the only reason why we have that organization.
In my humble opinion.
Yeah, they're pushing victimhood.
Now you look at that organization.
They're suing each other over what?
Money.
That's why that whole organization's there.
Yeah, money.
Yeah, I mean, I'm processing your guys' story.
You know, how basically your mother raised her in Jim Crow.
You guys were devout liberals.
You voted for Obama in 2008.
You've been going through this sort of red pill process.
Basically, you're talking about BLM and you're standing up against that.
I think the facts are by a percentage or two, 90% of black people vote for Democrats.
I don't even think it's close, bro.
It's not like 55, not even close.
It's the only demographic that does that.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you think needs to happen for black people to realize, all right, let me be a little bit more open-minded and maybe even think about voting Republican?
I'm not saying they're going to pull a switcheroo, but to even let it into their temptation.
What do you have?
They always say white supremacy is coming from the right.
No, that shit's coming from the left.
If they really want to change black people's perspective when it comes to politics versus liberalism and conservatism, Hollywood would get involved.
But they're not going to do that because black people are that cash car when it comes to politics.
I believe in white supremacy, but it's not the white supremacy of the man in the Ku Klux Klan outfit saying in this, in that.
No, when I look at white supremacy, I look at the hold the Democrats have on blacks and the way they think and how they label other blacks that are conservative.
That's how I see white supremacy.
But what do you actually think needs to happen for that transition to happen?
I'm not going to involve our church.
Well, Hollywood ain't going to do nothing, bro.
You know that.
What needs to happen for what?
I'm curious.
For blacks to actually consider to vote Republican.
I'm trying to understand that mindset.
I don't think it's...
Because Hollywood's not going to change.
That's the main reason why.
The media is not going to change.
That's the main reason why they change.
It needs to start with the grassroots, right?
It needs to start by black people like you guys like Candace.
Civil rights leaders.
But that's the thing, man.
In this day and age, you don't need a black leader.
What's wrong with a white guy telling you the truth?
Why does it have to be a black guy?
Why can't it be a Chinese kid?
If you really want to judge people by the continent, why does it have to be a black guy that's telling you the truth?
Yeah, I feel you on the surface, but people.
I feel you too.
Color is very important.
It is important.
Especially the black people, because the main reason why Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated, the main reason why Malcolm X was assassinated, is because I don't, you know, the message they put out there about being independent, work for yourself, you know, work hard, make good decisions.
That's the main reason why those two men were assassinated.
And guys, don't forget, color matters.
Why did you vote for Obama in 08?
Go ahead and tell me.
There you go.
I was a devil.
But because you saw a black guy and you said, you know what?
I'm going with him.
Forget about policy.
We lacked objectivity.
I got to tell you.
The main reason why I voted for Obama is because what my mama went through.
I really wanted her to see a black president.
And before she died, she's like, man, this country has changed so much in the years I've been here.
Look at your brother.
He retired from the army.
Look how successful he is.
He said, my mom has told me that.
She said, yo, you look at you guys on YouTube, been having a good time.
He said, man, this country's changed so much.
There's no question about it.
I think it's already happening, Adam.
I think it's already happening behind closed doors.
Look at the country as a human being.
Okay.
As the country is aging itself, it's also going to go back and forth with different types of crisis you experience.
When you see certain things, you're going to change.
I think behind closed doors, people are like the other day, Cardi B, she just went on a random on Twitter.
I know you guys had an issue with Cardi B a few years ago, which was very interesting.
Hey, if they would have paid college tuition would have been free, I wouldn't have needed to strip.
And you're like, what are you talking about?
And you guys came back.
You're not going to free your taxes.
Yeah, exactly.
But she said, she's like, you know, my family's calling me and they're asking me to help her out financially, help them out financially, which I'll do.
I'll do that.
That's okay.
I'm doing it with some of my family members.
But what is going on with inflation?
And he says, then she said the line.
I don't know if you heard what she said.
She said, and I know some of y'all are going to say, well, you're the problem.
You voted for Joe Biden.
I'm not blind.
I know what's going on.
I'm paying attention to what's going on.
I have money.
So, Cardi B?
Wait, what?
For her to even say that.
Right.
To even say that to get that audience.
And then, you know, you're getting more people gradually talking about this where the other night we're having, spending time with a guy from Hollywood who we're going out there having dinner.
We're having a nice conversation together.
And he says, listen, man, you guys got to know, there's a lot of conservatives in Hollywood.
There's a lot of conservatives of Hollywood.
One of the best things that happened to Hollywood and what's going on right now where I think this is going to be flipping, I think Netflix ruined Hollywood.
I think Hulu, Netflix, I think Amazon, I think a bunch of these OTTs, I think Daily Wire with the movies they're making.
I think Barstool.
I think us.
I think, you know, you go to some of the smaller guys that are coming up.
I think, you know, even Rumble with Chris, what he's doing over there, I think every one of these things is getting people to check and be like, ooh, maybe before we would have just dropped the guy like this, we can now, because they have an option to go to the other place.
Maybe before we could only put the video in one place, we're going to take it down.
Well, I'm going to put it here.
You don't have another place.
So Spotify now allows certain users to put videos up so people go watch it on Spotify.
People go to Rumble.
So I think what happened is when you play this game of choking people and silencing them, me and Tate were talking about this the other day, is behind closed doors, you're giving birth to flag carriers who don't want to be controlled.
They want to be left alone.
And those flag carriers are also passionate that they're willing to come and find their types of people and they're doing it today.
So I think Hollywood, the days of a Weinstein having a control of everybody, you have to go through him.
Those days are gone.
Netflix showed a formula that a bunch of people are following.
It scared the crap out of everybody in Hollywood.
They don't know what to do right now.
It's the best thing.
Same with social media, by the way.
Same with social media.
Disruptors.
I think it's going in the right direction.
And I think it's already going a direction with guys like people are listening.
Like right now, if you're listening to this, I'm looking at the commentary.
You know, our audience, you know, we have people that are obviously capitalists, but we have some people that go, oh, I hate Trump.
I hate this.
People listen and they say, this makes sense.
Look at the story, what they went through.
You know, sometimes when you're going through something as a kid, you're like, why the hell am I going through this?
Like, what are you doing, God?
And then he's up there saying, you'll know in 30 years.
That's a long time.
Don't worry about it.
I'm going to know how to use you in 30 years.
Be patient.
These guys went through what they went through.
God's using them in a way right now that, by the way, there's no book that's going to convert in a different way than their stories right now.
You're watching two brothers telling their stories.
Here's what happened.
Some people are like, yeah, I kind of relate to this.
You know, this kind of does make sense on what's taking place.
By the way, you know, from just listening to you guys, the feeling I get is in the most subtle way, you guys are leaning more towards DeSantis than a Trump administration in 2024.
Is that a pretty good read or no?
I'll take them both.
I don't take either or.
Okay.
But that's the funny thing about it.
I don't know if Trump's going to run.
And I think, I don't know, just looking at what DeSense is doing, I think he's going to run.
Yeah.
And I don't think he may not run.
I think Trump's going to run, but I think I'm not necessarily think DeSantis is going to run with Trump, though.
Yeah, I think DeSantis is going to run.
Yeah.
And if Trump wants to run for president in DeSantis, that's going to get a well, so there's a whole different camp that even, you know, Tucker kind of alluded to a little bit that, you know, this indicting thing.
Do you think any of that's going to be taking place?
You think there's any of that?
Okay.
Got it.
I mean, Trump being indicted?
Yeah, I mean, for years they've been saying he's been doing this and that, and nothing ever came of it.
And now they're raiding his house.
I still don't believe until I see it.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Keith, where you at with that?
Could it happen?
Could it get that ugly where they may do that to him to just eliminate a competitor?
They impeached him twice for just breathing.
So I wouldn't put it past that.
I mean, what are they going to indict him for?
Being orange?
I mean, he is guilty of that, bro.
I mean, you might not like.
You know what I had to get over when I made that switch over to conservatism?
I always voted for people who I liked.
And it brought that to my head when you said that.
You don't vote for people who you like.
You vote for people who's going to make, you know, that's going to make this a better place to live.
You vote for their policies.
It has nothing to do if he's handsome, if you like him, if he's charismatic.
It has nothing to do with it.
I want an asshole in office if he's going to take care of my family, my rights, and protect our country.
You don't care if he's an asshole if he takes off.
I don't care if he's an asshole.
Yeah, but see, you're objective.
Most people ain't objective.
Well, I'll tell you what.
You guys watch Bill Maher ever?
Yeah, yeah.
He's getting more and more leaning more and more.
Well, he's just the typical Democrat.
He's not far left.
He's just, that's what he's Democrats.
He's a traditional liberal.
Yeah, but you talked about being an asshole, right?
And I think that's part of the reason that Biden is the president now because people were sick of the asshole tendencies.
But I'm going to read you what Bill Maher had to say.
He was basically saying that there's the rise of the meh voter, the MEH.
Like, eh, eh, ah, I'm just, I just don't, ah, Trump.
You know, this whole concept.
And he said, one of the reasons, obviously, you know, you as kind of comedian type guys, you'll appreciate this.
He said they're basically saying there are so many good reasons to give Democrats your vote.
Again, this is on Bill Maher.
And he basically says, well, things could be worse.
Inflation, right?
The economy.
There's no other option because the other guy's a fucking dick.
That's what he says on this.
And that's how people basically process Trump is I totally understand that if maybe if it'll benefit the country, this is a good question.
If it benefits the country, would you rather have an asshole in office or a nice guy and the country kind of goes down the hill?
You know, that's the kind of what the country is essentially grappling with right now.
But you're saying you'd rather have the asshole.
Yeah, I think for the most part of Trump in office, I'm just speculating.
I think if he's in office, I don't think Putin invades Ukraine.
I think it's a huge possibility.
That's what's leading to a majority of the inflation.
We do hear that argument.
They address this.
I do hear that argument all the time.
And you very well might be accurate.
The other side, the flip side, people are saying, all right, cool.
All right.
I don't think Trump, if he was in office, they would have invaded Ukraine.
The other side is basically saying, cool, maybe you're right.
But now that the war is being fought, whose side would Trump be on?
Would he be pandering to Putin at this point?
Would he be basically sending a lot of money to Ukraine?
These are the questions that the left is basically responding with.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
This is a basic person.
I'm just saying if he was in office, he would probably siding with Putin.
I don't think he'd be siding with anybody.
I think more than anything, he would be trying to side with Ukraine because he wanted his son, Biden's son, to be investigated.
I think it would be more on Ukraine's side.
The thing that would have prevented that whole war in Ukraine is diplomacy.
Yeah, Putin's been saying it for years, decades.
Ukraine is not to join NATO.
That's all he wanted.
They got too much.
That's what Putin's been saying.
They're in bed with Ukraine too much, United States.
Ukrainians are like Russian blood.
What happened in Ukraine is like California breaking away from the United States and becoming, wants to join, let's say, China, China or Russia.
That's equivalent what Ukraine is trying to do.
The United States would invade California.
It would be in that best interest.
If California wants to be a part of Russia, what is the USA going to do?
They're going to invade California because they don't want Russia sitting right there with all their arsenal.
They don't want communism on that doorstep like that.
No, NATO.
They want NATO on their doorstep.
I don't think what's going on in Ukraine is any straightforward.
What do you mean by that?
Who doesn't want communism on their doorstep?
The United States.
Got it.
I see what you're saying.
You see what I'm saying?
California turns to a communist country.
They go with Soviet Union.
USA is going to invade California.
That's why I'm not siding with any side, by the way, but I'm just giving you the reasons why Russia did what they did.
That's why they did it.
If diplomacy would have came in, a leader, if somebody leader, like maybe Trump, maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm just wrong, but somebody sitting down talking to both sides, they don't like this.
We can't do this, but we can do this.
If they just had three men, I mean, it shouldn't even come to the people dying in Ukraine right now.
It shouldn't even come to war anymore because nowadays, these wars, nobody wins none of these wars.
I mean, like, when you go to war nowadays, like, it's not like back World War II, War I. People actually won those wars.
These wars that we have now, nobody wins them.
Nobody wins.
So when Russia invaded Ukraine, it could have been so many things done to prevent from this ever happening.
Well, I mean, the greatest analogy these days, it's essentially a proxy war.
The entire world is galvanized.
I mean, I say the entire world, the entire Western world, United States, the EU, other countries are basically using Ukraine as a proxy war because nobody wants to see Russia succeed.
Ironically, the Russian economy, I think GDP was actually positive during this war because they've escalating gas prices.
The whole situation is weird.
Okay, you're funding Ukraine for the war, but you were buying gas or oil from Russia.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
Why can't we just be financially independent?
I don't understand why we got to get involved with all these skirmishes across the...
And it's just...
Speaking of skirmishes...
Skirmishes, you saw what Biden had to say about obviously Ukraine and continuing to fund Ukraine, but you saw what he said about Taiwan and China.
How did you process that, Pat?
Which part of it?
Where basically said, if 60 minutes later.
That Taiwan thing is.
If China invades Taiwan, would you send American troops to Taiwan?
He said, yes.
And I think the interviewer asked it again.
He said, yes, he would defend Taiwan.
But did you also hear what he said when he was at?
He said yes many times.
And then he says, what would you do to Russia?
He says, if I know, I wouldn't tell you.
I wouldn't tell you what I'm going to be doing.
By the way, I respect that.
Yeah, I like that answer a lot.
There's a part where he says, is the worst of the economy ahead of us?
No.
It's behind us.
You can't say that.
Yeah, I agree.
But what would you expect him to say?
You know, worst times are coming.
But what you're supposed to say is be straight up, like what you're supposed to do.
We don't know.
We're going to find out.
If we make some of the right choices, we're going to find out what's going to be taking place rather than saying a flat no.
But I do want to say something here about what's going on during with what you guys are talking about.
You're saying Trump, would he support this?
Would he support that?
A couple things happened just recently with Armenia.
Tyler, if you can pull up that one tweet.
So here's very important for us to don't put it on the screen yet until I kind of explain what happened.
So in the last week, Azerbaijan troops attack Armenia.
Armenia has a prime minister, Pashinha.
So he attacked Armenia.
A couple hundred soldiers die.
There's a lady named Anoush, which you see the story circulating all over the place, who the Azerbaijani military apparently took her.
They, you know, raped her, they gout, they took her eyes out, they put rocks there, they took out her fingers, put her in her mouth.
And this story is going all over the place.
And another soldier, Armenian soldier, this has been happening constantly.
Now, when somebody says stories like this, you know, a lot of friends from Azerbaijan will say, how could you say that?
You're selling us at evil people.
And papa, pop, pop, pa.
No problem.
Fine.
Let's speculate together as a person who's Armenian, who you know which side I'm going to lean on.
And I, quite frankly, don't even think that Pashinian is the right leader in the country right now.
Because while you're doing this, everything's about alliances you create.
Look at Israel.
Israel created alliances with America.
You went and were bought out by China.
And then Russia is supporting you in a way, but they kind of run Armenia.
You're not really the president of the prime minister of Armenia.
It's really Russia.
But Russia's also playing politics for a couple of different reasons.
So watch what happens.
Turkey.
This is the part where a person like Putin has a good argument, not necessarily Putin.
Some people who are from the side that they're saying NATO's playing games.
This is what a Turkish member of parliament just said a couple days ago.
I want you to play it, and then I'm going to read what it translates to.
He just said this on September 15th.
Okay.
Play it.
Put the audio up.
And then I'll say exactly what he's saying to you.
Go ahead and press play.
So here's a message.
I don't know if you're getting the audio or not.
Start it over, Tyler.
Okay, if you're getting it, don't worry about it.
You can go watch this on Twitter.
Here's what he says.
We say to the Armenian administration, make up your mind.
I remind you once again that the Turkish nation has the power to erase Armenia from history, geography, and that they stand at the limit of our patience.
This is a member of parliament from Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO.
If a message like this is being given, this is like somebody from Germany saying, hey, Israel, if you guys make a comment, don't let us remind you of what we did to you guys back in the days with this.
And guess what?
This guy, can you go up to his Twitter account, please?
Go straight to his Twitter account.
You have his handle.
He's active on Twitter.
That's him.
So he just said this three days ago.
This guy's still active on Twitter.
FYI, I am not imposing for a guy like this to be banned.
I want people like this on Twitter.
Do you know why?
Because people can get to see that these types of people exist and you can make a decision for yourself.
So now, I'm going to give a shout out to somebody.
Nancy Pelosi.
I rarely will give a shout out to Nancy Pelosi, but today's one of them.
Nancy Pelosi, to me, is 10 times more presidential than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
Now, forget about politics.
Forget how you feel about any of these three characters here.
Let me just tell you what I mean by this.
Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan and China said, if you do show up, look what we're going to do to you.
She still went.
Nancy Pelosi, in the middle of all this challenges faced between Armenia and Azerbaijan, she goes to Armenia and spends a day there with a couple of the political leaders that went with her, Armenian folks that went with her.
And she goes, pays her respect for what's going on.
Now, here's a part.
Yesterday, I go on Fox News YouTube channel.
I go on MSNBC YouTube channel.
I go on CNN YouTube channel.
I type in CNN, Armenia.
You know what you see?
This much.
I go type Fox, Armenia, this much.
Pelosi goes to Armenia.
Nothing's talked about, right?
So Turkey has got Azerbaijan's back, okay?
Turkey is a part of NATO, and they made this threat.
And what does Erdogan say?
Going around saying, we're going to do whatever we're going to do to Armenia.
We can make you guys erase.
And this parliament member can say what he can say.
And they stay on.
So moral of the story is the following.
You got a Biden.
Kamala Harris was just asked, is the border safe?
Did you see a response?
Yeah.
Where they asked the question, so is the border safe?
And I don't know if you got the video, if you can pull it out, because the video was just absolutely ludicrous on what she's saying.
Like, you can't even sit there and process it and say, did she really just say that?
Tyler, I don't know if you got it up or not.
You look like you're going through all of them.
Yeah, okay, watch this answer here.
Very weird.
The border is secure, but we also have to go to the bottom of the system.
No, go back.
You didn't go back.
In particular, over the last four years.
Refresh because he asked a question.
Okay.
She asked the question first, and then it goes.
Okay.
Secure.
But we also have a broken immigration system, in particular over the last four years before we came in, and it needs to be fixed.
We're going to have two million people cross this border for the first time ever.
You're confident this border's secure.
Listen to her answer.
We have a secure border and that that is a priority for any nation, including ours and our administration.
You know, when I hear her give that answer, all she's thinking about is, how is this going to be written about in the paper?
How is this going to be cut?
So what can I do to give the right answer where I'm not going to be judged for it?
FYI, listen, people say Nancy plays politics.
Everybody plays politics.
Guess what?
You play politics.
I want the person playing politics to go to Armenia.
I want the person playing politics to go to Taiwan.
I want this person playing politics to go to the border.
So you don't want to go to the border?
Guess what?
They brought the border to you.
Did you see all these people coming off the bus in front of her house?
What did you think about that when you saw that would come out?
I loved it.
I mean, if you stand by those policies, if you're a sanctuary city, why wouldn't you welcome these people in and provide for them?
But I think in Martha's Vineyard, they actually deported them with the National Guard.
Like, how can you say you're pro-sanctuary city?
But if you, as soon as we send you some people, because I know these border cities in Texas, I think they're overwhelmed.
So if you're a sanctuary city and you stand by those policies, why wouldn't you welcome these people in your communities, your neighborhoods, and help them just like the red states are doing or like Florida's doing?
I mean, one state can't take so many immigrants into the country before they become overwhelmed.
And did you hear when they said Martha's Vineyard isn't prepared like the southern border of Texas is for these number of migrants?
And they're like, what are you talking about?
It's like 50 of them.
You got 50.
They got 2 million.
Obama's got plenty of room.
Yeah.
And then why don't you open your place to let them live, you know, stay a little bit?
I don't know about that.
We're not going to respond to that one, you know.
Hey, you can take some in too, right?
But so question for you.
I don't think what DeSantis dude did is all good or all bad.
Meaning with everything we're discussing, by the way, whether it's Pelosi, and I got to give respect to Pat right now, we're so easily vilifying.
She is way more presidential than Kamala and Biden.
But they don't add things like this on TV, on Fox or CNN, because you can't politicize it.
You can't use it to earn votes.
It's not a non-story to everybody.
What is Armenia?
Yes.
Oh, the Armenian story.
No, I'm talking about Martha's Vineyard.
On one side, it's good for DeSantis.
He needs to stand up and draw attention to what the hell's going on at the border.
And he's kind of trolling the Gavin Newsoms of the world, the combos of the world, and the Obamas of the world.
And then the other side, you kind of have the left saying, listen, he's just playing politics here.
Basically, he's using immigrants as political pawns, essentially.
And then if you're in Florida, these are Venezuela.
A lot of people, what they sent, I think were, there are 50 people, Tyler?
They were all Venezuelan?
Venezuelan.
No, I can't tell you how many.
I mean, I'm born and raised in Miami.
How many Cubans and Venezuelans are just, they've come here basically looking for a better life.
What's your point?
My point is this is that this is right and wrong.
What I'm saying is that it's not all right or all wrong.
Why is it wrong?
Tell me why it's wrong.
Okay, well, if you're in Florida, okay, and I assume that, you know, that DeSantis is running again for the governor of Florida.
My question is, could this backfire?
happen to think that he's going to beat Charlie Chris handily, right?
That's his running against.
He don't beat that.
Okay, correct.
However, how can it backfire?
Okay, if you're Hispanic and you see, you know what, and maybe you're undecided because again, Florida's a purple state.
It's not like it's, you know, 70, 30.
It's kind of closer to 55, 45.
Is this something that a Hispanic will look at and say, yeah, this doesn't sit well with me?
Again, we're in South Florida.
We're in Florida.
We're in Miami.
Could this backfire?
No, because the guy's running for this guy's running for president.
No, but he needs to win governor first.
I totally get that.
You think Charlie Chris is like, it's like you're thinking like a, anyways, okay, everybody's.
I'm already one step ahead of you.
I'm with you 100%.
I think DeSantis is going to beat Chris.
So did he need this?
But here's the part.
Could this potentially be?
Let me explain to you what this does to America, okay?
For two years, how long has Kamala and Biden been the president and the VP?
How long has it been?
Two years.
Two years.
For how long have the people been asking for her to go to the border?
And she's the border Cesar.
How long, czar?
How long has she gone to, how long have they been asking for this?
Two years.
Has she gone yet?
No.
Well, guess what?
If you don't go to the problem, don't worry.
I'm going to bring it to you.
And America says, thank God for a ballsy leader like that to put them in the corner and say, what are you going to do about it now?
What are you going to do about it now?
Let's see how you're going to react to it now.
Now, they were not expecting this.
They've lost their minds.
D.C., Martha's Vineyards, they've lost their minds.
Chicago, they don't even know how to handle a situation like this.
They need a winning hypocrisy.
Exactly.
That was the whole point why DeSantis, that's why the governor of Texas did what they did.
You're all about immigration until it's on your doorstep.
They just want to show the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party.
And that's a lot of Democrat voters don't see that hypocrisy.
And that's all on air for everybody to see.
But I do think a lot of people are starting to see it, though.
Remember, you don't need 50% to flip.
I do think there is a 5%.
Yeah, you need 3%.
I do think there's people that are sitting there saying, well, babe, did you see that?
Kind of does make sense.
Look at the way they're reacting.
You're calling the, what?
They're calling the reserve.
They're calling for 50 people.
And these guys are dealing with 2 million.
Look at the pictures.
They're not even saying anything.
Even on 60 Minutes, even everybody on the left, these are on the left.
They're asking him the questions about the border and Kamala can't even answer the question.
I don't know.
I think we got a problem here.
Yeah, Trump's racist is xenophobic.
Now, look what they're doing.
Exactly.
That's xenophobic erases.
It's just opening up people's eyes.
That's why Republicans are being better politicians now as in Texas and Florida.
And to be a better politician, you got to be two steps in front of your opponent.
Yeah.
And FYI, for you, Adam, you got to know that, you know, Florida doesn't have illegal immigration as much as Texas and California and Arizona does.
Correct.
The people that come here, immigrants, are dying to be here.
Well, Cuban refugees and raps.
And I'm not saying folks on the other side are not.
They're also going through a lot of sacrifices.
I've said this many times.
If I was somebody that's living down there and I'm seeing what the mafia is doing and I'm living in Mexico and some of these cities, I'm also going to figure out a way to come up and bring my kids here, even if it costs my lives.
I'm doing that.
But that's not the point.
The point here is that it is a different situation.
I love the fact that he's bringing the problem to them.
And hey, how you want to react to it?
People have to.
Let me pose a different question.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think, like, you're an immigrant, okay?
You, you were not born in America, right?
You guys were born in America, okay?
My family, Russian immigrants that fled basically the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, whatever.
But do you think immigrant, like I feel, I wholeheartedly believe that immigrants should be propped up and appreciated more than they are?
I don't know.
I'm saying you came through the front door.
Your family came through the front door.
He came through the front door.
Correct.
These people are not coming through the front door.
Correct.
And that's my point.
But I guess my question is, do you think that we're villainizing these immigrants when they're looking for because when you come into a country illegally, you are automatically a criminal.
Like we had some shows, comedy shows in London.
Our visa wasn't right.
They arrested us.
They had us in an immigration.
In London.
We was in immigration jail in London.
They opened four sold-out shows.
Yeah.
Had us divided.
We couldn't even talk to each other.
Had us in cages.
Yeah.
Literally.
In London.
How long ago was this?
This was.
A couple years before the pandemic hit.
Got it.
Yeah.
So all borders should you should not have an open border.
And the way they let these people in, I'm all about people coming here.
If they're fleeing crime, you know, things of that nature, and they come in and say, hey, I'm running.
I'm being persecuted in my own country.
And you come through our back door the way they're doing.
I'm all for that.
But a majority of these people are just coming here because they just want a better life.
And I'm under the understanding that you don't fit the parameters or the prerequisites of even coming into our country to seek asylum.
You don't.
To seek asylum.
By the way, I want to read to you what Hillary Clinton said about this whole situation.
Hillary Clinton says, Martha's Vineyard situation is literally human trafficking.
No one wants open borders.
On Friday, Hillary Clinton agreed with an MSNBC morning Joe Host's assessment that the sending of 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyards was human trafficking.
She added that nobody wants open borders who has any idea of how government and countries work, but nobody wants inhumane, terrible treatment of human beings either.
What we should have been doing is to come together to reform change and better fund the system by which we deal with these issues.
But some people like Governor Abbott of Texas would rather have an issue than be a part of the solution.
I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton.
How about holding Kamala accountable to going to the border?
They were doing the same thing before the Republican governors started doing that.
They were doing the same thing that was flying around.
You made a great point.
You think we're villainizing immigrants and we're using them as political pawns.
That's a great point, but the Democrats have been using them as a political pawn the entire time.
That's how we got here.
That's how we got here, yeah.
I totally understand where you come from.
They're already political pawns because most of these people should have been turned away before they even get here.
You can't even come through.
I might be wrong on this, but if you seek an asylum in a country, you have to first apply to the country you enter and then you progressively get to the United States.
A lot of these people are breaking all kinds of international laws.
We lived in Germany, at a refugee camp for a year and a half before we came to the States.
Literally, at a refugee camp in Germany for a year and a half.
And then we finally, the day we got our green card to come here, man, we were doing backflips.
Yeah.
When we knew we were going to be coming here, it was like the happiest day of my life.
November 28th, 1990 is when we came here.
I will never forget that day.
Never.
I'm telling you.
That's never.
How about you?
How about you?
Me what?
His family came here.
He was born here.
Oh, you was born here.
Oh, you're lucky.
I know.
I'm lucky.
I know.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm very lucky.
Just real quick.
I think he made a good point that it's all about the message, right?
That's what you said.
Everything is about the message, right?
It's not very often I do this, but I have to agree with Adam in that two wrongs don't make it right.
I understand 100% what DeSantis did.
I get why he did it.
The backlash he did.
He's proven they're hypocrites, everything.
But now look at how this is being flipped on him, right?
Now he's the human trafficker.
Nobody gives a shit that they've been flying illegal immigrants to 49 states across the country to flip them.
Nobody cares.
Who does he have to win if he wants to run for president?
The suburban women, right?
What do the suburban women look at and say when they see this?
Ron DeSantis is a horrible person.
This is a very Trumpian move of him, and he has to be careful because he's playing with fire.
Yeah, they stay fire on him.
Those women, they love Newsome.
Right.
Well, no, you're absolutely right.
Gavin Newsom could be president in 2024 because nobody pays attention to policies anymore.
It's a popularity contest.
But I think for most of us.
Clearly, look at AOC.
Yeah, I think for the most part, when they say human trafficking, it's not human trafficking.
That's hyperbole.
Well, it's all hyperbole.
Nobody's going to look that far into it.
Nobody's going to take it past.
Yeah, most people don't.
You're right.
And listen, I get what he did, and I think it's great.
The idea of it is great, right?
I agree with it.
But he has to be very careful because he's playing with fire, and he's giving them the message to Santa.
What's the alternative, though?
Let me ask you a question.
What do leaders do?
You guys want a bunch of pansies that are marketers?
Yeah, but this doesn't, what does this do?
This doesn't cause a lot of people.
Let me tell you, if I'm on the southern border, I'm sitting there saying, thank God he did it, and he ain't even in my state.
No, I want a leader, bro.
I don't know what world you guys are living in.
I'm not trying to get a if you want to get a CMO as a president, you're not looking for the right guy.
DeSantis ain't a CMO.
You can get a, you know, a lot of different people to be that job.
You want a leader to be the president.
Half the reason why the mess is taking place right now with Ukraine, potentially Taiwan, that could potentially happen soon, is because ain't nobody afraid of America today.
So I don't mind that he's flexing his muscles.
By the way, FYI, you have to understand this other part.
There is risks to you choosing to be a leader.
There is risks.
There's risks to you showing that you're a true leader.
There is a very risk to you being a tough father.
There is risks to you being a high expectation type of a dad.
There's risks to you being a guy that expects a lot from people.
My kids are going to baseball.
My son is going to a baseball practice right now, and this place is going.
I'm standing on the sidelines just watching to see how these guys coach the kids.
And I see, hey, you don't come out?
Hey, you didn't do this?
Run two laps.
Hey, boom, five push-ups.
Hey, you dropped the ball, five push-ups.
Hey, you didn't do this?
Go run over here.
At the end of the two-hour practice, these guys are sweating.
You know what I said on the sidelines?
He's in the right place.
These are real coaches coaching these guys.
They're tough.
No, listen, at the end of the day, I don't care about optics.
I want a leader today.
America is desperately looking for a leader.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I'm not telling DeSantis to go on a podcast and smoke weed to win some people that are going to vote for him.
I'm not telling you that he's not going to be doing that.
But the fact that this guy's got the audacity to go out there and do things like that, he's showing I can help solve a lot, not only Florida's problems, because people track record-wise, give me one governor's resume.
FYI, did you just see what just happened?
Let me just give you guys a stat here.
Does anybody know who just broke the record for the most money ever raised by a governor in the history of America?
It's a guy named DeSantis.
So he just broke the record for the most money ever raised by a governor in the history of America.
His name is Ron DeSantis.
How does that happen?
People from other states are supporting this guy.
They ain't even in here.
People from other states.
So if a guy is going to take a risk like that, I'm for you taking risks because quite frankly, too many people on all the other sides are playing it way too safe.
I want a real leader today.
I want a real leader that's going to go out there.
So let's continue this conversation with a Newsome call out on what Newsome just said.
So Newsom just came out and said the following, which is on page four.
Newsom, okay, California Governor Gavin Newsome challenges Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to debate.
This is a CBS story.
On Friday, Newsome tweeted, if you want to put it up and zoom in a little bit, Tyler, so we can see this.
Hey, Ron DeSantis, clearly you're struggling, distracted, and busy playing politics with people's lives since you have an only overriding need attention.
Let's take this up and debate.
I'll bring my hair to jail and you bring your hairspray.
Name the time before election day.
And he tags CNN, right?
So he puts this tweet.
And then on Thursday, Newsom called for an investigation into Republican governors sending busloads of migrants of Democratic states to protest the Biden administration immigration policies.
In a tweet, Newsom specifically called that DeSantis and Texas Governor Abbott over their cruel policy of busing migrants out of their states to cities with Democratic mayors as part of a political strategy.
Do you have DeSantis' response?
Did you find that one or no?
So when you saw this, what was your first reaction when you saw Newsom say this, Adam?
Well, I think this is a tale of two cities, basically, best of times, worst of times.
I mean, this has been kind of coming this way for a while, where basically you have the free state of Florida and the lockdown state of California, and you have the two figureheads, whether you like them or not.
These are basically, you know, the Gen X version of the current presidency right now.
Biden and Trump in their 70s.
Biden's about to be 80.
Here are two guys in their, what, DeSantis is, what, 44 at the oldest?
How old is Newsom?
He's late 40s?
Yeah.
I think this is on the upswing.
And I think basically we've seen a lot of recruiting.
I think, didn't DeSantis put up a massive outdoor billboard basically calling out DeSantis?
We have two governors calling each other out.
And it remains to be seen.
I'd love to see this debate.
I'd love to see this debate.
I think the whole world would want to see this debate.
This is a presidential debate, if you ask me, but go ahead.
Newsom is an opportunist.
And I mean, it's like Beto O'Rourke.
I just like when Beto won the gun violence down in Texas.
He took advantage of that because he's running for governor.
He has presidential dreams, and he's an opportunist.
And I mean that in the most negative connotation ever.
He doesn't give a shit about any of this stuff.
He just wants to become president.
So keep talking.
I'm joking.
This is the beauty of having a twin brother who looks just like you and have the exact same opinions.
You could be choking.
Your brother just picks up the ball and goes with it.
And he's spending a lot of money that was donated to him, right?
For these billboards.
Because he doesn't have to worry about spending money in California because it's just, you know, majority of that, you know, even though that whole state is red, for the most part, it's San Francisco, L.A., make that whole state blue.
He doesn't have to worry about losing seats to Republicans because that state is just blue from those two major cities.
Why do you think DeSantis keeps getting elected even during the recall?
I mean, he was the mayor of San Francisco.
That place has turned into an absolute shithole.
Right.
Okay.
And then he becomes governor of California.
We've seen what's going on.
I think, you know, they have the first year ever, Pat, correct me if I'm wrong.
They had a net loss in immigration.
People that move out of California.
He has the recall.
He beats Larry Andler easily.
I don't understand.
How do they keep voting for this?
How did these election results come in?
It's just weird.
It's like, how do Democrats have that much power in one state?
Well, I mean, it's the most liberal state in the country.
I'm not shocked.
I'm not convinced that it is, though, because when we do comedy shows out there, people turn out there as if I'm in Florida.
Really?
Yes.
How recent?
I mean, we have, like, we're up in Bakersfield and the other.
These are conservative cities within Brea, California.
California, Brea, California.
Like, whenever we go anywhere in California, it sells out.
I mean, fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the population?
I think there's 40 million people in California.
I mean, there's going to be, if one-third of California is Republican.
So you still got 15 million people.
Here's my thoughts on the Newsom DeSantis debate.
Okay.
So for me, I could care less about being a CNN format.
Newsome, here's my suggestion to you.
Choose a podcast format, go for three hours, okay?
And do it this way.
You come to us, okay?
There you go.
We will guarantee three hours.
We'll guarantee minimum a million dollars to both just to participate to your campaign.
We'll do a super chat.
People will be able to call in, all that other stuff.
But it shouldn't be two minutes.
Oh, stop.
No, okay, No, no, no, no.
None of that stuff.
I want to see if DeSantis, I want to see if Newsom can talk for 10 minutes with an answer, and I want to see if DeSantis can give a long answer.
So what do you think about the issues that we're facing?
And let it be a different kind of a format.
You'll get the money's worth.
I wouldn't go to CNN.
I wouldn't go to Fox.
I would go to a podcast.
Pick and choose a three-hour podcast.
A lot of people do it.
Just last week, we broke the record for the longest podcast to go, you know, whatever it was for the week.
We got five and a half million views on five-hour podcasts.
Got 200 million minutes watched on this one podcast that we got last week that went out on Tuesday or Monday.
I don't know what it was.
Correct.
Right after shot.
I'd love to.
If it's not us, choose somebody else.
Okay.
Pick somebody else.
But have the sit-down because if you guys are going to do the traditional way, I have zero interest in watching it.
I would love to see a bigger move in campaigns going.
Like, I'd love to see those guys sitting down with a Rogan.
Okay.
Sitting down over here, sitting down in a place where it's three hours, a good moderator, ask, challenge each other, and let's see what it's going to look like.
Yeah, any other format is just disingenuous.
It's not enough time.
It's totally fake.
It's right.
How can you have somebody you having an open conversation with somebody, but they're on your side and they're just throwing you softball questions though?
Yeah.
You know, it's just, it just, because I don't trust anything for the most part on TV because you have to double check everything you heard.
Yeah.
And by the way, the cool thing about this kind of a format is if you tell a lie, the audience in the chat box, chat, but they're going to go off the live chat.
Right.
So versus when they're doing it there, there's not, you know, everybody has to, but everyone's like, oh my God, did you hear what they said?
It's a very different format that a lot of these guys fear.
They're not comfortable doing that.
They would much rather be in a controlled environment where they get to control the question.
They come on a podcast.
It's like a brawl.
But that's what America deserves.
This is what America designs.
That's what America deserves.
Exactly.
Why do you think podcasts are blowing up?
Why do you think there's such a yearning for just free talking?
When we were contemplating putting the tate out, the interview out, we're like, do we want to do it in like three segments?
You want another part?
That goes, fuck it.
Go the whole five hours.
We're like, okay.
And we didn't know.
We didn't know what would happen.
But there's a yearning for just open dialogue and all that without being filtered.
And up two minutes.
Sorry, you got to stop talking now.
But that's why Newsom would never come on this or any other podcast.
You can see the comments.
You can see everybody's commentary.
Like when you go to YouTube and look at a biden video when he first got elected, even though he got over 80 million votes, all the dislikes, everything was more dislikes than likes, even on CNN or MSNBC's YouTube channel.
What did YouTube do?
They did away with that dislike button.
What are they hiding?
He's got over 80 million votes.
These people are going to, if he's got 80 million voters, they should come out and stand up for this guy.
That's why he'll never come on here because it's going to be in the comments.
I have an idea.
Everybody's going to see it.
What do you think about a $100,000 gift card to French Laundry?
Tyler, what do you mean by a $100,000 gift card to French Laundry?
He may show up.
Lifetime supply.
Eat there for the rest of your life.
I'll cover the bill.
Every time you go and just say, this is on Patrick Bedavid.
This is on Patrick Bed David.
I have a theory on why LA or California keeps voting for Gavin Newsom.
And I realized this.
This was a month or so ago.
This was right around July 4th where I watched, again, back to the Newsom DeSantis debate situation going on.
DeSantis did his whole, what was it, TopGov, where it was basically right when the movie Top Gun came back out.
He kind of did his whole thing.
And, you know, I gave it a C plus.
It wasn't exactly like, he didn't wow me, but I get it.
He was doing his thing.
Okay.
I kind of thought he used the Top Gun and his kid.
I mean, he was a lawyer in the Marines or in the Navy, right?
He wasn't actually in the Navy.
Let's get fucking real here, right?
He wasn't a Marine.
I had to give him a C plus.
And then I saw what Gavin Newsom had to say on July 4th.
And it was the most scripted, plastic, Hollywood manufactured, non-charismatic thing I've ever seen.
And I'm not a Californian.
I don't follow Newsom like that.
Pat follows it a lot closer because he, much like you, lived in California for 15 years.
It was full of lies.
And I was just like, and I just gave DeSantis a C ⁇ .
Okay, great, whatever.
This one commercial.
And then I saw Newsom's fake plastic bullshit here in California.
I'm like, get this freaking Kendall out of my face.
Yeah, it comes off like he's reading a teleport.
But that's what I realized is that California is the land of plastic Hollywood fakeness.
And they're like, yeah, that's exactly what we've embraced for decades now.
And that's maybe why it just, it just gives me the American psycho vibes.
Yeah, when you listen to a Democrat, they sound a lot like Obama.
You know, the mannerisms he do, the smile, the hand gestures.
And it's just, you've seen it so many times.
Even with Bill Clinton, he had that same demeanor to him.
And when you look at DeSantis or Trump, you can tell it's not scripted.
It's just coming from, you know, right here in the heart, the way they look, the way they look, that hand gestures.
It's just everything just comes out so more genuine than when you see it.
Yeah, but yeah, brother.
Newsom is no Obama or Clinton.
Okay.
They are a hundred times realer than that, dude.
And I'm not saying that they weren't, you know, playing politics, but Newsom is in a fake category of his own, like I've never seen.
Bring the hair, Joe.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah.
PBD.
Yes, sir.
Let's go into that Kim Kardashian story, which if you can't get away from that, let's go.
Yeah, I just thought about that the other day.
Did you see her Instagram post?
That's a picture right there she posted.
And she said, I'm excited to be part of Hillary and Chelsea Clinton's incredible journey to find out what it truly means to be gutsy.
What?
Stream the docuseries now on Apple T. You didn't see this?
I didn't see this.
Okay, so watch this.
Go into the commentary.
See what her audience is.
330 million followers.
Look what they're saying about it.
Bad, no.
Yikes, shaking my head, Nasis, no, what?
LOL, sick.
That's a bummer.
Laughing my ass off.
Buy nope.
Pizza.
Gag.
Nope.
Sus.
This ain't it.
God, what are you doing?
This is embarrassing.
But by the way, this is what's crazy about it.
100% of the comments I just read.
Yeah.
Guys, this is, this is, and it's not like Kim Kardashian is a Republican or a Democrat.
Kim is right in the middle.
Her followers should be supporting Forbes International 2021 Woman of the Year.
But they're not.
So click a little bit more.
Maybe this is just, I don't know.
Maybe go a little lower and let's continue.
So keep what I said.
This was too, I forgot I commented here.
It looks like Hillary's 2024 campaign for presidency is starting early.
She's in campaign mode.
Yep.
By the way, stay there.
I fully think she is because you know what Bill Clinton just did?
The last time he did his, you know how he does this event every year?
You know the Bill Clinton event he does every year?
Global initiative.
Yeah, Clinton Global Initiative thing.
You know what's the last time he did it?
You know what's the last time they put the event together?
2016.
2016.
And they just brought it back up in 2022.
This woman smells opportunity for being a president and she's using her, not in a negative way.
This is being plain politics.
She's bringing Chelsea along to not only get her more eyeballs because she's one they're going to run, but to also connect with the younger audience and they're going to places like this.
The other day, she did another podcast with somebody young.
I don't know who it was.
But anyways, I think she's campaigning right now.
Look at the next one.
100%.
Are you kidding me?
This is a dream of hers to be a president.
Hard pass.
Unlike how much they pay you.
Well, now we know more about you.
Kim, no.
Pizza.
Kim, did you ask the pan suit what happened to those 33,000 emails?
Again, going back to it, you would think 50% would support, but 100% doesn't.
Look at the likes they're getting on the comments, too.
Exactly.
2,000, 5,000, 3,000.
So what do you think about this when you see this?
Is this who wins here?
Does Hillary and Chelsea win here, or does Kim Kardashian win here?
They all lose.
They all lose.
That's like me and Keith sitting down with Mitt Romney or Dick Chengdu.
You wouldn't do it.
Hell no.
They could pay me $10 million.
No, Tim.
Come on, Kevin.
All three of these people are tone deaf.
Yeah.
Because my brand, it's all about your reputations.
It's all about what you did in your last video.
You can lose that like that.
I have an idea on why I think she did this.
Yeah, please.
Explain it to me.
I have no idea.
So, okay, stay with me here.
She was just on the late, late show with Cordon, James Corden, right?
And she said, you know, if I'm going to be back in the dating scene, I want to date a lawyer or a scientist or something like that.
And by the way, I'm actually a fan of hers.
I think she's, you know, their family are great marketers.
They know how to tell the story and all this other stuff.
Of course, the way, you know, everyone knows the story, the video, all that stuff.
But go back to the picture.
Go back to the picture.
Here's what maybe, let's speculate.
Who did she just get a divorce from?
Kanye.
And who would he, would Kanye ever do a podcast with Hillary and Chelsea?
There you go.
If Kanye was to ever do a podcast, he would do it with a troll of the highest order.
I'm calling Kim is really trying to get under Kanye's nerves.
Because behind closed doors, I'm convinced Kim knows Kanye.
You cannot stand this lady.
So I don't know.
I may be wrong, but I'm not.
I think you're absolutely right.
I think you're absolutely right.
Here we go.
That's my speculation.
I was thinking the same thing when she started dating Pete.
What was his name?
Pete Davison?
Yeah.
I was like, how you go from Kanye to a comedian?
To skeep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He got replaced by a guy named Marcelo, which is a million times better comedian.
Shout out to Marcelo.
My guy.
Oh, my God.
So by the way, apparently they had a what?
Didn't they have like a back and forth of a lawyer?
What is it?
They had a contest.
Kim Kardashian beat Hillary Clinton in a legal quiz.
Their knowledge on law, and apparently she took him out.
I don't know.
Chelsea, who acted as the official quizzer, first asked a question about the use of deadly force.
Kardashian bust in quickly before expecting answering the inquiry.
After a few more rounds of inquiries, queries, we see Kardashian beat Hillary Clinton by a landslide slide 11 to 4.
The former presidential candidate later told the publication that it was quite a humbling experience.
Oh, it was heartbreaking.
Well, I was also really intrigued by how well she did.
I wanted to put the spotlight on her.
Not that she needs it, but she worked really hard.
Okay.
So there's something going on there.
But if you see more and more of her, I can tell you for a fact which podcast she's not going to be doing.
I can tell you for a fact where she will not go.
You ready?
She ain't going to Zach Dalla Fernacin.
No.
Between two ferns.
Yeah, between two ferns.
She ain't going to that box.
She says, we have to take a break for our, what is it called?
Our sponsor.
This is Donald Trump.
Do you remember that when the middle of it he plays a Donald Trump?
I'm Donald Trump and I endorse his match.
He's like, why would you do that?
He's the ultimate troll.
Can you pull up the DeSantis story of Yahoo, what I just said earlier?
I don't know if you have it or not, when I said DeSantis is about to break her record for the most money raised.
If you can find this article there, watch this here.
Florida Ron DeSantis on the cusp of raising more money than any governor ever.
Okay, ever.
See, this is huge.
That's huge.
This is, you talking to a guy that's, you know, you're talking to a guy that everything he did, the anti-gay law, that was risky.
The allowing people to play, that was risky.
The no mask needed, that was risky.
The going after the teachers, that was risky.
What he did with Disney, that was risky.
What he did to remove the tax benefits of Disney World.
Do you know how much risk this guy has taken in the last two, two, three years?
And every time he keeps coming ahead.
I talked to a how do you discuss?
We can't say the name, just so you know.
So don't say her name.
Is this a big actress or not?
The Hollywood.
Yes.
How big would you say?
Top 10 female actress of all time.
Okay.
So her and I are communicating with each other.
I said, I'd love for you to come to Florida.
Okay.
I'd love to break bread and I'd love to potentially, and we follow each other's content.
She follows me.
She said, I would never come to Florida.
Why won't you come to Florida?
You want me to come to Florida to see what DeSantis did to the state of Florida?
She was being real.
She wasn't messing around about not wanting to come to a place like this.
So to California, Florida is like a reckless state to be in.
For people who live in Florida, let me tell you, people love living in Florida.
There is no disputing that.
Of course, you know, there's going to be some of our friends that will, Nikki Freed will come here and say there's people that don't want to be in Florida, but there's a lot of people that love being in the state here.
Yeah.
Florida.
So are you guys planning on staying where you're at?
Is Nevada is going to be a place to be a long term?
No, that's turned into a shithole.
California's coming over.
We're looking at Texas or here in Florida.
Florida, here in Florida.
Well, if you did come out here to Florida, we would probably do a lot of stuff together if you came down here.
Can I sell you on Florida for one minute?
Yeah.
So what do you like about Texas over Florida?
Tell me the difference between if you go to Texas, where would you go in Texas?
Would you go Austin?
Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys.
Are you really?
Bunny, Texas real property taxes is crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Florida's great, but we was just eating at Wendy's and this freaking lizard came out.
Yeah, there's lizards everywhere.
It's huge.
And it was just sitting there looking at me.
Yeah.
They look like a damn Komodo dragon.
What the hell is going on?
They don't attack you.
They don't do anything.
They won't do nothing to you.
They're exactly because it came out of the tree.
What the fuck is that?
These are lizards on steroids, bro.
They won't do that.
Lizards on steroids.
And it's got all these colors right there.
That's the guy.
Yes.
We at Wendy's and it's fucking complete.
These guys look scary, but they're soft.
They won't do nothing to you.
They won't do nothing.
So why else do you like Dallas?
What else do you like about Dallas?
Because by the way, Dallas is both of these, you're choosing top two.
I would probably put Nashville in it as well.
But why Dallas over Florida?
Well, it's like 50-50 right now.
Are you guys 50-50 right now?
It's not one or the other.
My wife loves.
That was almost a deal break until you explained that.
How do people live in Florida?
They got Komodo dragons in there.
You got dinosaurs running around.
Komodo dragon eat a goat.
Their feet and legs and all.
That's like.
You got these two big buff dudes, bodybuilders.
I scared a little listener.
I lived in LA for, I lived in LA for 20-some years.
Really?
Minus the time I was in the military.
I was in Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina.
And then we moved the insurance company to Dallas, Texas.
And it was in Addison, Texas, still till today.
It's in Addison, Texas.
I lived there for five years in Plano.
It's a great city.
Plenty of plan.
Kids went to school.
They're phenomenal place to live in.
But then to me, there's a lot of parts of California I love.
There's a lot of parts of Texas I love.
If California and Texas were to have a baby, it would be Florida.
So Florida has the best of both worlds of those two places.
If you want to do the water, if you want to do ocean, if you want to go on the boat, if you want to go big sports town, big, you know, it's starting to get a massive hub in Miami where people, business people are moving down here.
Obviously, you got the best governor right now that's in town doing what he's doing.
And Texas is a bigger target for folks from the left than Florida.
So DeSantis is gradually recruiting a lot of people.
So I've been telling a lot of friends that went to Texas.
I said it's a pit stop.
Don't worry about it.
In about two to five years, you'll be down here because you'll see what's going to be happening.
So, but if you guys do come down here, man, we'll be doing some stuff together.
Florida is a very, very different type of a place.
I love Texas.
I love California, but I'm in love with Florida.
Hopefully, it'll stay this way.
Anyways, okay, so let's see what else we got here before we wrap this up because this has so far been a blast.
So, papa, a couple fun stories you got coming down.
I got two comedians here.
So, I want to say that.
So, let me do this.
Let me do this.
Why don't we just play this part, though?
Why don't we just play this part?
Okay.
Her estate.
Okay.
Her estate.
Rest in peace.
What she did.
Okay.
And who she was to the country.
But I never understand that whole king and thing.
How do they earn their money?
How do they earn their money?
Yeah.
Generational wealth.
Tax-free generational.
This is true generational wealth.
Yeah, but who decided they was going to be king and queen?
It's just that's the structure of it.
The monarchy structure.
That's the monarchy.
So Iran used to be like this.
So, you know, sometimes people don't like the fact that they're too rich and they have too much money, which is a very valid point because they can say, why do you need to have so much money?
So, for example, okay, they talked about her stamp collection.
How much do you think her stamp collection is worth?
Stamp collection.
Okay, thinking about $500.
What do you think is the stamp collection worth?
Okay, stamp collection.
Stamp collection.
Just take a wild guess.
Well, I say $1,200 because inflation, you know.
Okay.
$1,200 instead of $500.
What would you say?
Stamp collection over under $10 million.
Okay, $136 million.
What the f is the stamp collection?
Buddy, your $500 credit was a little low.
Stamp collection, $136 million.
Stamps.
Yes, stamps.
Stamps.
She was saving stamps.
Dude, she has a stamp collection of $136 million.
Next one.
How much was her real estate portfolio by the time she passed away?
Oh, man.
Real estate portfolio.
She got $136 million.
You better go north of that.
Give me a number.
Give me a number.
How do you think I could come up with a number that damn high for you?
$100 million.
How much?
$400 million.
I'm going to show it to him.
Look at his facial reaction when he sees this.
That's crazy.
$10 billion.
Real estate.
I'm not even kidding with you.
$10 billion.
$10 billion.
Car collection.
$100 million.
Okay.
Yes.
Car collection.
So the stamps is worth more than the cars?
Yes.
Car collection, $100 million.
Horse racing, $10 million.
You know their art collection, which was 270,000 items, 7,000 paintings, 30,000 watercolors and drawings, as well as manuscripts, sculptures, tapestry, furniture, and carriages.
How much do you think the art collection is?
You ready?
$13 billion.
And last but not least, this, she wore this a few times.
I don't know if you guys remember when she wore this.
Okay.
Crown jewels.
It's called the crown jewels.
Can you pull up the crown jewels?
Just pull up the picture of the crown jewels, not the price, just the crown jewels.
Okay, crown jewels, right there.
That's the one right there.
Just click on images.
Okay, crown jewels.
What would you say that is worth?
I want you to actually guess.
Like you got it out of like a gumball machine.
Party City.
$500 million.
$500 million.
What are you going to say, Keith?
I'll go with $500 million.
Fuck it.
I'll go with $5.
Just to say, I figured you'd go $501 million.
Just say the price is right.
$5 billion for that?
Stop it.
$5 billion for that.
You could get that at Party City.
$5 billion.
That's crazy.
You know what?
I don't believe in white privilege, but if white privilege did exist, I would say this is like on a whole different level.
Thank you for tying it all together.
Buying it all together.
They don't pay no taxes on this.
Five billion.
I mean, how did he earn their money?
Like taxes from other people?
I couldn't tell you.
You guys should know.
You guys were former accountants.
Did you guys want to be the kind of stuff you guys do?
You should tell us.
I'm going to be a king and a queen.
Man, I hate to say this.
This looks like he got kids in his basement, man.
He looked like he got kids in his basement.
That's how conspiracy theories get started, by the way.
By the way, I started off today's part.
His fellow family member, Prince, Prince, what is it, Prince Albert?
That's not Prince Albert.
He was on Hipstein Island, right?
Yeah, was that Albert?
Who was that?
I can't think of his.
I don't know.
I think it was Andrew, right?
Andrew.
Prince Albert, I think, is a thing you do.
A different type of earring.
But Prince Andrew might have been with those kids.
I never understood how they generated, generated that much wealth.
Like, what are you making?
What are you talking about?
The English Empire, the British Empire?
What are you talking about?
Colonizing the fucking world.
Okay.
How the hell do you what?
So they have businesses?
Yeah.
Just stealing shit from other countries.
Raping India.
Raping other covers.
What?
I don't get that.
I don't understand why any society would need a king and a queen.
It's funny how they kept calling Trump like, he thinks he's a king.
He's no king.
He named his son Byrne.
He's no burn.
And look, and then the left, they just praise this woman and all this wealth.
And yeah.
By the way, what do you guys think about Kanye West?
What do you think about him?
Oh, he seems like a good fellow.
The most diplomatic non-answer ever.
A nice guy.
That time.
It took a lot of balls for a black man, especially with his reputation in the music industry and Hollywood to go see Donald Trump, the most hated, supposedly a white supremacist.
He went there and he didn't, he cut through all the bullshit and he said, I'm going to go see him anyway.
Yeah.
I mean, he's definitely a leader.
He's not a follower by any strict.
Didn't Steve Harvey go to that same meeting?
I think Steve Harvey got some words as well.
Oh, yeah.
Black person go see Trump.
Oh, you are a traitor.
They land-based.
They did it to Ice Cube, too.
Why do you ask about Kanye Pat?
Just curious, because for me, I mean, look, I'd love to sit down with Kanye and have a really long conversation with him because I think he is another one of those guys that's misunderstood.
And the quote goes, if a lion could speak, we could not understand him.
There's certain people that are lions that the average person cannot understand.
That someone needs to be able to get him to explain it in a way, layman's terms, where it makes sense to people.
But the guy, he's not a regular guy.
He doesn't look, he has a very different lens on.
Yeah, he got that one quote about slavery.
But, you know, a lot of things that he says can be taken out of context and twisted around, especially because he speaks in metaphors and analogies.
You need to get, like, when you sit down and talk to him, when he says something, you got to have him clarify what he just stated because he is a deep thinker.
I think he's next-level musical genius, no doubt.
I also think he's a tortured soul.
I mean, he's gone through a lot of mental stuff, anxiety stuff, depression stuff.
His mom and stuff.
Everything that that guy's dealing with.
There's no clear not answer.
He's a freaking Kardashian, too.
That can't be fucking easy.
That cannot be good on your mental health right now.
Christ.
Is it true you guys had a little bit of a meltdown recently when news came out that they moved Don Lemon away from prime time?
Yeah, it came out.
Let's live that hard.
I heard you guys took it very hard, man.
How are you recovering from that?
That'll be okay.
It'll be some other Democrat they put in this position.
I'll still have material.
But I mean, all these people that was on, I mean, everybody at CNN is getting fired or being demoted.
And it's like, everybody's a good thing.
Maybe.
I think it's a very good thing because a lot of the hosts and commentators they had on those networks, they've lost a lot of credibility because how long can you keep saying that a guy is a white supremacist, that he colluded with Russia, that he did this, did that.
And then over time, nothing ever materializes.
And it's like, you guys are just a bunch of liars.
Yeah, but they were just the face of it.
The higher-ups was telling them everything to say.
Everything was on the teleprompter for them.
They had a message for them and they had to stick with it.
And then when it didn't go wrong, they fired them because their whole reputation is tarnished because it's coming out of their mouth.
I mean, until you just dismantle CNN and start with new ownership, that place is dead for me.
Yeah, it's not even necessarily against Don Lemon and that other guy, this ball, Brian Selter.
Yeah, he was just reading teleprompters.
He was just being told what to say and how to say it.
I mean, it's not necessarily his fault that, you know, but I mean, you're the figurehead of that organization and that broadcast.
So whatever you say, people are going to automatically assume that, hey, you're the producer.
You're the writer of this show.
Everything that's coming out of your mouth, you approve of it.
So if it didn't work.
I think it's just a paycheck for them.
There were sacrifices.
But again, but you know how I process that?
Here's how I process that.
Adam, this kind of goes to your question earlier about the whole vote.
The way I process this is if you don't, if you start pushing the envelope to the point where you make no sense and you're just gaslighting people, customers are going to say, yeah, we're not about this, man.
Change it up.
We're not dummies.
You got to figure something out.
And CNN is now having to change their entire business model because it's not working.
It's just not working.
People are not interested in you gaslighting me 24-7, so change it up or else I'm going elsewhere.
And then CNN is going to be bought by somebody for pennies on a dollar like other businesses will go through.
This whole thing with Trump being raided, if they don't indict him or they find anything good on him, these MSNBC CNN, they're going to lose more credibility because they just raided a it was the first time they ever occurred where the FBI raided a former president's house.
I'm surprised Morning Joe is taking such a hard.
I mean, I understand when Trump went after his co-host.
His wife.
I totally get it.
And when he goes and he said what he said about him, but I saw her, she got a facelift.
Her face is cut and bleeding.
He goes personal attacks, and that's why they're emotional arcade.
He does what they do to him.
He does what they do to him.
And they don't like, you know, it's kind of like a guy that likes to put it on others, but doesn't like to receive it.
Democrats love to.
But if you come back to them and play their game, they don't appreciate it.
But Morning Joe Joe Scarborough was a representative from Florida, Republican, conservative Tea Party guy.
No question about it.
He's no longer a Republican.
It's very, very hard.
It's very, very hard for one to give their, you know, what they lean in a situation that's coming up in a logical way when somebody goes after your family.
It's very hard to do that.
So no matter who you are, whether it's Megan McCain, when Trump went after, you know, it doesn't matter what it is.
At that point, loyalty is about blood.
You know who is cool with going after each other's family, though?
These two knuckleheads.
They go back and forth, no problem.
Keith, Kevin, they're fighting with each other.
I dare anybody try to divide these guys.
You would not want to get in between these guys.
Can I make one last point?
Yeah.
You two guys.
The concept of brotherhood.
We just sat down with Tate.
His best friend is brother, Tristan.
They're going nowhere.
You look at Logan and Jake.
I'm looking at you guys.
I mean, I have a sister.
I wish that I had a brother.
There's something to be said about having someone that thinks, acts, feels just like you and that has your back.
I mean, nobody has what we have.
Not the Wayne's brothers, not anybody.
Wayne's brothers, how do you break that down?
What do you mean?
I mean, me and Keith, I mean, you don't see the Wayne's brothers doing anything together.
That brand was solid, man.
He had that hit TV show.
They had white chicks, but you don't never see them together.
They can't be too close.
Well, maybe, maybe they are.
Who knows?
So what's the methodology with being brothers and being twins?
It's like, we're going to do that.
No, we are unicorns.
We are very unique because a lot of twins, when they're born, a lot of them hate each other.
One ends up trying to kill the other or trying to ruin the other person's hands.
You know what it is?
A lot of them they're in competition with one another.
Yeah, me and my brother's never been in competition.
When he was doing bigger and better things, like doing a spelling bee and all that, I just said, you know what, man, he was on the horn roll.
You know, in sixth grade, when you were killing that spelling beat, misspelling Almanac he was on honor roll.
Yeah.
I wasn't doing none of that.
I was doing my own thing.
You were rooting for him.
No, I didn't care.
I thought he was whack.
So, but you know, over time, you know, we just came close because we always been close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I used to help you in the spelling bee, right?
Shut up.
Almanac?
Almanac.
A-L-M-A-N-A-C.
Almanac.
You know, about that stress.
Oh, man, it's a bummer, man.
You really tried real hard this time.
I thought he's misspelled it because I want to shit spelling bee.
Were you in the room with him when they did that?
Yeah, I was right there beside my mom.
That's my dad.
It was at school in the middle of the day.
Everybody's in the school.
Everybody, this school's in the auditorium.
We're having a spelling bee.
This is a big deal.
This is big time.
Right?
There's about 150 kids in there.
Yeah.
Man, I was up there and I see my dad in the crowd, my mom.
I was like nervous, man.
That was big time.
You made it to the top.
And I made it all the way to the last two.
Yeah.
And then they came to me.
I said, Almanac, oh, I got this one.
Hopefully, he don't get his.
I already got this.
By the way, that's a great name for a book.
Okay.
People can be like, why Almanac?
You're like, let me tell you the story about Almanac and what happened and how my life got started and where I am now.
But anyways, man, this was incredible.
The audience obviously loved it having you guys on.
It's no surprise.
You guys are entertaining the world on a regular basis.
Gang, if you haven't yet subscribed to their channel, can we make sure we put the channel both in the chat as well as the description for people to find it?
Any projects you guys are working on right now that you want people, any major projects you're working on right now that you want to tell the audience?
Don't have really, don't have shit going on.
Not right now.
We're on tour right now.
You can come see us live at harsh twinstour.com.
But we're on YouTube at Conservative Twins.
We started another YouTube channel.
We call it Patriot Twins.
Well, you know, it's a little less political.
Our politics coming to play, but it's more about current events.
