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00:00 - Start
00:13 - Aaron Singerman backstory
20:32 - Arnold Classic/"Screw Your Freedom
35:18 - Arnold says voters were right to retain Newsome
42:12 - Peyton Manning Bourbon Brand
51:11 - Facebook shields VIP's from censorship
58:06 - Joe Biden visiting border
1:11:32 - Nicki Minaj/Most powerful people in the country
1:28:01 - Elon Musk upset w/Union Bill for electric vehicle subsidies
1:40:06 - China and 6G
1:45:06 - Manny Pacquiao running for president of Philippines
1:50:07 - Trump & Bill Barr
1:56:08- Howard Stern & Joe Rogan
Episode number 90 with our friend here, Aaron Singerman.
Good to have you on, buddy.
Thank you for having me.
I was about to meet you.
I was going to have you wear a mask at first because I know you felt uncomfortable about it, especially since Arnold Classic, everyone's required to wear a mask.
I wanted to make sure you felt comfortable about it.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
You know, I opted not to, but it would definitely make me more comfortable to be breathing into the mask and be overheating.
I cannot, by the way, Aaron, for people that don't know your background, so CEO and founder of Redcon are guys who go to your gym.
You know, they swear by your gym.
They say it's like the church.
You've been, you know.
It's a sick gym.
You got to go to one of the things that he does where everybody pushes to see who maxes out the most bench press, all this stuff.
That's like 150 people.
I got to be honest.
I didn't like his gym.
I like being the strongest guy in the gym.
I wasn't the strongest guy in his gym.
Yeah, there's a beast in the gym.
He doesn't like competition.
He's more socialist.
He doesn't like competition.
That's me.
He wants to go to a place where he's the man.
He's got one of his trainers when I did the 525 press over here, which none of you people in the comments believed is real, by the way.
But did the 525 press at your gym?
One of the guy goes, cool, man.
Good warm-up set.
And then he walks behind.
Seriously.
Yeah, all under armor, head to toe.
He's like, I'm just playing, bro.
Pounds it out.
You know, you're big.
Great comment, by the way.
Good for him.
Good one.
You know, you're big when you go to give a pound, and this dude had to get around his pec to give me the pound.
He did the around us.
If you're insecure about your body, Redcon's going to make the difference comfortable.
People are in shape.
Yeah, people are in shape.
So tell us the story of Redcon.
Tell us the story of Redcon.
Oh, well, I'm going to, I'll have to give you the fast story, but the story of Redcon is I've been in love with sports supplements, really bodybuilding and fitness as a kid.
And I was super passionate about bodybuilding and fitness.
And I kind of got lost along the way and had some problems with drugs, pretty bad problems with drugs.
And when I finally got out of that life, basically, I thought to myself, what do I love doing?
At the time, I was a personal trainer.
This is in New Orleans?
Yeah.
Well, in New Orleans, so I was in New Orleans, went to Baton Rouge to go to college, even though I didn't go to college.
That was the plan.
Anyway, I became a trainer there.
And then moving back to New Orleans, and then Hurricane Katrina happened.
And so I was an evacuee for Hurricane Katrina and on drugs at the time and moved to Houston.
And I was living in a FEMA apartment that was provided by the government.
Yeah.
I was spending all my money on heroin and no electricity, reading books by candlelight for entertainment in Houston in the summer, which you can imagine was gross.
And yeah, and I eventually got out of that.
Then that's a whole long story, but I got out of that through some big cataclysmic event.
And when that happened, I thought to myself, I was a trainer to make money.
That's what I always fell back on, being a personal trainer.
I was pretty good at that, and it paid pretty good.
And it didn't require a lot of education, which I had none.
I never went to finish high school.
So while I was doing personal training, I had a guy there that I looked up to, and he had a Porsche, a new 9-11 turbo.
What year is this?
This is 2006.
Okay, got it.
So 2006.
9-11, new Turbo 6 Porsche.
Oh, man.
I always love nice things, even though I never thought I'd afford anything nice.
And so I went up to him and I said, man, how do I get a Porsche like that?
It was like just like an offhand comment.
Yeah.
And he goes, you'll never get a Porsche like that.
And at first, I was like super offended.
Like, I'm never going to get one, you know?
And he goes, Do you love personal training?
And I said, I mean, I like it.
He's like, Do you love it though?
I was like, not really.
He's like, I can tell.
He's like, I love training people.
I love coming here every day.
I look forward to it.
I write programs at night.
I call my clients.
I love it.
I love every minute of it.
And that's why I got the Porsche.
That's why you won't get one.
And I was like, damn.
What a perspective, though.
But when he said it, how he said it, it made me really feel.
I felt it.
I was like, damn, he's right.
I'm not going to get a Porsche.
And so he said, think of the things that you really, really love and figure out how to make money doing that.
Don't be a trainer because you don't love it.
And I went home and I was real honest with myself and took a real mental inventory because I was in that kind of state of mind, just coming off of drugs, like, where am I going?
What's the point of everything?
And so I thought, what is the only thing I could think of that I loved consistently from 13 years old to 26 years old was bodybuilding.
But as you know, bodybuilding is a genetic thing.
So being a tall, naturally tall, skinny Jewish guy, the potential to be Mr. Olympia or to make any kind of money as a bodybuilder is extremely limited, super, super limited.
And I'm sure you also know the bodybuilders that make any kind of money at all, there's a handful at most.
What's the right height?
5'9, 5'10?
Is that the height?
5'11 is probably really the, if you have great genetics, it's probably the.
Is Ronnie 5'11?
Was it.
Ron is 5'5'11.
Ronnie Coleman's only 5'11?
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's seven feet tall wide.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think 5'11 is the ultimate height.
Dorian was about 5'11 also.
You know, Lee Haney was 5'11.
So that's probably like the ideal, but you have to be able to fill it out, you know.
And at 6'2, 6'3, it's very, I mean, you have to be a very special, genetically gifted person.
You know, that was the number one reason why I walked away from bodybuilding.
Too tall.
Yeah, too tall.
Yeah.
Me too, pretty much.
I mean, me too.
I mean, I tried and I.
And me too.
Yeah, of course, David.
Thanks for the plug, by the way.
Appreciate you, buddy.
Yeah, so instead, I realized there is money around bodybuilding.
So I looked at the sport of bodybuilding and I looked up people like Peter McGuff, who was the editor-in-chief of Flex Magazine.
People like truly, you know, Joe Eater, obviously, and Ben Weeder, two Jewish guys from Canada, so that created the world of bodybuilding.
They crushed it.
They crushed it.
They made billions of dollars.
And then other people that were surrounding the sport that I admired, like Dan Solomon, because he was doing Pro Bodybuilding Weekly at the time, Bob Chicarello, and these guys were making money.
Not a fortune by any means.
No Joe Eater kind of fortune.
But I said, maybe I could do something like that.
Maybe I could write.
Maybe I could figure something out.
And so what I did was I started right away, started sending articles to magazines for free.
And I started posting on all these bodybuilding forms that really don't exist anymore now.
We have social media.
Instead of using a name like Swolegun69, I used Aaron Singerman in hopes of like nobody was doing that, unless you're a pro-bottom, unless it was like Sean Ray or something.
Nobody ever put their real name.
So I put my name in hopes of somebody noticing.
And I would post any free time I had when I wasn't training people, I would be doing something actively to get into the bodybuilding and fitness world.
And then I did.
And we did a radio show, a podcast, 100 episodes of one called Off-Topic Radio.
And that led me to start working for Dave Palumbo at RX Muscle.
And from Rx Muscle.
Good guy, by the way.
Yeah, good guy, of course.
He was my boss for my last boss ever had.
And I worked for him, worked my way up from doing the podcast with him to covering shows all over the world with him to eventually taking over and being the editor-in-chief of the site and running all of the, really running the business.
And during that time, I had a child, my first son, Asher, who's nine.
I don't think you met Asher yet.
What a name, bro.
What a name, bro.
Seriously, what are the chances of that?
Yeah.
You know, Asher, like, do you know the history of Asher?
Like the name?
Yeah.
I think so.
What's the history?
It's an Assyrian name.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
King Asher.
Asher is like a very powerful name.
I'm writing a fiction book right now.
The main character's name is Asher.
Very cool.
Good name.
And Aiden and Elijah are the three, my three boys.
Beautiful names, bro.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Anyway, so when Asher was really, when she was pregnant with Asher, I realized that I wasn't making enough money to support a family.
And so for me, the dream was literally my whole life dream at that point was to make enough money having fun doing something I love doing.
I wasn't like aspiring to buy anything fancy.
Had you gotten clean at this point?
Yeah, I'd been clean.
By the time I met Dariel, I'd been clean for a few years.
So nothing good happened while I wasn't clean.
I was doing intravenous heroin and cocaine and it was like a mess.
Like legit stuff, like hardcore stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Intravenous for, you know, I would do 100 injections a day of cocaine.
Holy moly.
100 injections of cocaine a day.
Yeah.
Well, I was living with a girl who sold cocaine.
So she, her, this is a whole story.
Well, the guy did tell you, you got to do what you love.
Yeah.
I mean, that was his advice.
Yeah.
So we, I met, I met a girl, this is before Dariel, obviously, and she sold cocaine.
Her, her boyfriend was, or boyfriend or fiancé or something, had been killed in a drug deal.
And so she didn't know what to do.
She continued dealing with the people, not the people that killed him, but the people that he would buy it from.
And then it turned out all the gangbangers loved her because she's this little tiny white girl and they didn't feel threatened by her.
So they love dealing with her.
So she can walk around Bourbon Street, no problem whatsoever.
Yeah, this is in Houston.
This is in Houston.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
You wouldn't want a little girl on Bourbon Street.
It's kind of dangerous these days.
Unless if you're with her, 525 pounds.
I got beads.
I got beads on beads.
So that was the reason why.
She ended up being able to give it to me for free.
So we had a kind of unlimited supply.
Eventually, the reason why I left and changed my life was a friend of ours died in her apartment, and we got into this huge fight because she wanted me to move his body.
And I knew enough about, you know, I've watched enough CIFs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I watched enough Reddit.
She wanted you to commit a massive felony.
Yeah, she wanted me to move his body, which, you know, he died accidentally moving his body.
She wanted to take it down to the truck and drive him away and leave it somewhere.
What an appropriate guess right after Sammy Cravano.
This is very appropriate.
Sammy right behind you.
So this hardcore, man.
Yeah, that's hardcore.
I mean, that's the literal definition of too much of a good thing or a bad thing, man.
I mean, how long were you doing that for?
I mean, that's very lucky to be alive.
Of course.
Yeah, of course.
I was doing really like the hardcore stuff for probably four years or so.
Started with OxyContin and then kind of graduated up from there.
And really, I was doing OxyContin in New Orleans, but when we moved for Hurricane Katrina, I didn't know where to find it anymore.
And so I literally went to the hood and walked around and asked for heroin.
Well, I've heard that story so many times.
So many ex-athletes, so many guys I played with, great guys that, you know, they were taking Percocet and they were taking Oxy just so they can play.
They were never partying anything like that.
I've talked about it extensively.
And then the game's done with you.
And, you know, they're just, all right, see you later.
And you don't get to tell your body you're not addicted to the opiates anymore.
And the next thing you know, a guy who was a first-round draft pick is mainlining heroin out, you know, two years later.
You know, by the way, the other day I interviewed a doctor who is an opioid expert and he gave a TED talk.
So I had him on.
And the statistics, in 2010, 10,000 people died in America from opioid.
You know what the numbers last year?
I can't even imagine.
96.
What?
Crazy.
10,000.
You had to be.
They locked people up with anxiety and drug addiction and didn't let them out.
How much of that is due to all the COVID lockdowns?
Yeah, they just lock them in a room.
It's the worst.
Even the number in 19 was 49,000.
But last year's spike apparently was a major spike.
People, a lot of times.
One site said 72,000, one site said 96,000.
A lot of it's fentanyl, too.
And I don't know what you think about this, but a lot of the friends that I've dealt with and a lot of the people that I've dealt with in my life that struggle with addiction, they really didn't even have a drug problem so much as they had a reality problem.
They just didn't want to be in reality.
They had to escape it.
They couldn't get out of their past.
Oh, they had undiagnosed depression.
I think a lot of us go through it, but some of us, we have a different source for escaping it.
Some it's alcohol, some it's gambling, some it's partying, some it's woman, some it's pot, some it's prayer, some it's prayer, but in this case, it was you know a different but you do see you do see this a lot also in that if people are able to re-channel that addictive personality into a positive environment, you'll work 20 hours a day when somebody and not even think twice about it.
Well, that's the thing is so being addicted to heroin is a constant job.
It's like a job that never ends.
You don't have a break because when you're either searching for heroin, you're doing heroin and then immediately you're thinking about when are you going to get the next heroin in my case?
You know, I was hustling to try to make money to get money to buy heroin.
Fortunately, I never hurt anybody or hurt myself.
But I was constantly slinging this to get money for that to buy more heroin.
So it's never ending.
Constant job.
Aaron, how skinny did you get?
Were you pretty skinny or not rude?
No, it's funny.
The one consistent thing was going to the gym and taking, when I was really bad off, my parents always, they didn't pay for much, but they got me a gym membership and they always got me protein powder.
So until I was doing really cocaine and I wouldn't sleep for days and I wasn't even drinking water or eating anything, until I got to doing cocaine, I was reasonable, 220 or so.
You were 220 on heroin?
Yeah, it didn't fit the typical thing, you know?
Yeah, but then when cocaine, probably like 180.
Got it.
That's still big, though, because the guys that I knew who got on heroin or cocaine, I mean, take the height difference.
It's just, they get very, they just don't look healthy at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, continue on how Redconk com comes about.
So anyway, I was working for Palumbo.
I was the editor-in-chief.
And when Dariel got pregnant with Asher, when we got pregnant with Asher, something changed in my mind, just like when I was, something changed with the drugs and seeing the body of my friend.
And that ended up where Jennifer's punching me in the face, and I turned around and ran out of the apartment.
I never saw her again.
She ended up being beaten to death a few months later by these same guys that she would buy drugs from.
Holy money.
Not only was a wake-up call, but it was reinforced quickly after when I found out she had been killed.
So from that to that kind of switch in my mind happened again when I realized Asher's coming.
I can't just, you know, live on the minimum.
I have to be able to provide.
And so once again, I looked around bodybuilding and found who's making money in bodybuilding.
It's sports supplements.
I've always loved sports supplements.
I've always been into them.
I was taking them.
When I was younger, I thought they were the solution to everything.
I always had to have the acetablene, the best, you know, acetobol and wild muscle tick.
Crazy.
That's what I needed.
I mean, I thought that that was the secret.
If I just had enough Metrex packets, I would be like Lehaney, you know?
That's really what I thought.
That was an animal pack back in the day.
Animal Pack.
That's really what I thought.
So I was always into supplements and the science of supplements.
And because of all the relationships that I built along the way with Dave Palumbo, traveling the entire world basically looking for the next relationship, even though I didn't know it was going to be, I didn't realize I was networking, even though I was networking.
And so as soon as I started looking around, realizing, okay, I can do something else, I started becoming more and more into marketing and understanding digital advertising sales and Google, the possibilities with Facebook as they were just becoming monetizing Facebook.
And so I ended up becoming the marketing director for a supplement company.
And that supplement company, I was there for about a year and a half before we ended up being able to save up enough money to start our own supplement company.
And that company ended up being the 27th on the Inc. fastest growing privately owned companies.
And through that, I met a lot of other people, celebrities like Kai Green, Dana Lynn Bailey, Rob Bailey, C.T. Fletcher, and I started making supplement lines for them.
So I would design the line.
I would handle the marketing.
I'd handle the fulfillment.
White label type of model?
We come up with all new formulas.
I do a whole new everything.
And because most of these guys are getting, you know, some of them, like Dana at one point, was making like four grand a month from MHP.
She should have been making 50 grand a month when she was at her height of her popularity.
So I said very easy, like, hey, your fan base is already buying all these shirts from the company Flagner Fail.
Why don't you take that and cross-promote it?
You know, you take those customers who are selling the time.
Some days they're selling 20,000 orders a day on their site.
Why would you get $4,000 a month to sell somebody else's supplements?
Maybe as many make your own, right?
I can handle it all.
So I started doing that and making other brands.
And then RedCon1 started with the other company when I left.
I had a big partnership dispute in the past company.
And when I left that, when I left, instead of a non-compete, I did a compete.
Like, hey, so you know, signing off, I'm going to compete against you.
And my former partner didn't care because he just wanted to be the boss.
And so when I left, I immediately started RedCon1.
And the idea was to take all of the successes of the past companies and then take an honest look at them and then really push those, amplify those and take a look at the failures and kind of remove them and take an honest assessment on what we really want to be, who do you really want to stand for.
And in supplements, nobody, as far as I know, in the history of supplements, have really decided beforehand, what are they going to stand for?
Who are you going to be?
Create a brand package, a brand filter to put everything through and look at things.
Instead of having a really awesome ingredient, a really awesome product, have a really awesome brand that stands for something that people want to support the brand, not just buy the awesome pre-workout or get a great deal.
Your brand attracts a lot of military guys, a lot of veterans.
Veterans love your brand.
RedCon.
Yeah, that's on purpose out of source.
Yeah, I would bet.
So in the beginning, when me and Eduardo and Eric Hart and a few other guys said, is he military?
Are you former military?
No, no.
Okay.
He looks like military.
No, no, no.
All right.
He looks like a chief of staff.
How about that?
Yes, he looks like a chief of staff.
So anyway, when we sat down and started another supplement company, as you know, there's thousands of supplements.
I mean, it's a very competitive space.
There's new ones coming out all the time, especially now the minimum runs are small.
So because people, like if you want to be the CEO of a supplement company, if you got 50 grand, we can make it for you and you're going to be the supplement company CEO and you'll have your own brand, right?
And as a result of that, you have hundreds, thousands of brands every year that come and go.
And I realized we had to have some differentiating factor that was major.
It couldn't just be whatever new company, blah, blah, blah.
It needed to have something, a name that worked, that was catchy, that was short, that was memorable, that was easy to spell, be able to get a great URL that was short, easy to spell, ideally have it mean something, meaningful the name.
Obviously, you don't need that because Amazon or plenty of companies just have a short name.
So when we were looking for it, we were looking, we had two guys we wanted to put on the team, two Navy SEALs, Brandon Cruz and Ryan Bates.
These guys are the most charismatic, athletic, great guys.
Both of them work for Steve Wynn.
They're senior protection for him.
They had two weeks on, two weeks off.
And so they had time to do it.
So we had this bodybuilder, Dallas McCarver, who is this young phenomenon and like this.
Stud of a guy.
He was a guy that was coming up.
He passed away at what, 26 years old?
I don't know how old he was.
He was 26.
He was a superstar.
He passed out one time in a posing.
His body locked up and he just couldn't go to Australia.
He's in Australia.
Yeah, he was great.
Is that the one where the criticism Chad Nichols got for Dallas?
There was some kind of a...
Yeah.
I don't know who it was, Sean Ray feud with Chad.
I don't remember.
There was something that was going on.
Yeah, I'm sure it was Sean Ray.
Can you guys take a minute and unpack that for me?
I don't know.
This guy died while he was posing?
Yeah, if you can pull up, just type in Dallas McCarver, Dallas, M-C-A-R, and then he'll pull up.
He was arguably the most potential young bodybuilder in many, many, many years.
He was six foot two and walked around at 365 pounds.
He was 365.
What was his first name, Dallas?
MacArver.
Yeah, he's competing over 300 pounds.
There you go.
Yeah.
Let's see if you can find a good picture.
Okay, so I took that picture down.
Go to images?
I mean, the guy's physique.
That's a picture.
That's a good one.
That was one of the, and towards the end there.
By the way, that's a 25-year-old.
Yeah, 25 years old.
Think about that.
That's 25.
He was 380 pounds.
How did he pass away?
Heart, heart, genetic heart issue.
Wow.
Yeah, I didn't know.
We never knew, but both of his uncles, his mom told us, passed away at a heart attack in their 40s.
So, I mean, I'm sure everything else didn't help being a pro-bodybuilder and everything.
But, you know, it was definitely a genetic thing.
Was he pushing it too hard?
Was his body fat too low?
That's the story some people say that he was, you know, kind of going above and beyond than what everybody else was going.
But, you know, who knows?
There's many different stories to this.
I'm just speculating based on what a lot of people are.
The truth is, too, that bodybuilder is an extreme sport.
So they're all pushing it.
You know what I mean?
Every one of them is pushing it.
And they all understand that it's extreme sport.
It's risky, you know, like hand gliding or some shit.
It's a dangerous sport, F1 racing.
I've never heard it explained that way before, but it really is.
I mean, the body turning, you know, you're experimenting on yourself like a chemistry set almost.
I mean, and you get something like insulin just a little bit wrong, and that's it.
How big is Redcon today?
How big in terms of employees or revenue?
Give me all of it.
What is that you're comfortable with?
We're in the nine figures in revenue.
Okay.
And heading towards a valuation of close to probably about half a billion dollars right now.
That's kind of amazing.
250 employees.
And you're founder and CEO of the company.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
To go from that story to this story, this tells you capitalism work, and America's a great country to be.
What a 180 story.
So let's go to a couple things, current events with your business.
So I keep hitting this, guys, and the audio is kind of getting a little bit next time, George, when you do it, move her further left.
It's too close to my legs.
So I'll tell you guys how I like that to be done.
Okay.
So you made a couple comments about Arnold.
Arnold came out and said, screw your freedom.
And you're one of the bigger sponsors for Arnold in regards to Arnold Classic he does every year, which apparently a quarter million people show up in Ohio every single year when you do that.
It's a massive thing.
Have you ever been?
I've never been to Arnold Classic.
Yeah.
I hear it's just something else, even in some cases, even bigger than Olympia when it comes down to people.
Playing shows.
In terms of the expo and the amount of events there, they're not even close, to be honest.
The actual bodybuilding show itself, I would say the Olympia is still ahead.
Of course.
But the actual event, no, it's not even close.
Why do you think that is?
Do you...
Arnold has a lot of events there.
So everything from Cheerleading.
Let me not go on the Olympia side because that always gets me in trouble.
Although I'm going to get in trouble, I'm comfortable with this.
So go back to Arnold Classic.
So you normally sponsor, and it's not like it's a $10,000 sponsorship or $50,000.
You're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars with them every year.
$200,000.
What caused you to not want to support the Arnold Classic?
So it's pretty simple.
I saw that clip of him saying, if you don't wear a mask, take a vaccine, you're a moron or a schmuck.
And if it bothers you and it messes with your freedoms a little bit, screw your freedoms.
And it just really rubbed me the wrong way.
Me and my wife, I mean, we watched it.
We were on a trip, a vacation, my first week vacation ever.
We went to Montana and then Wyoming.
Nice.
It was really cool.
Brought all the kids and it was a great trip.
So we're on the trip and we saw the clip and she and me watched it.
And I'm like, you know, both of us watched it and we're like, damn, that really sucks that he said that.
And then the Arnold's coming up and they want us to be the exclusive sponsor of the webcast.
We were one of the five main sponsors of the show.
We were doing stuff at the after party.
We were very, very involved.
And the guy, the main guy, Brian Powers, who's really running the event right now, is calling me and texting every day.
And it's like for advice and stuff.
And I was on the, or was going to be on the panel that helped Arnold and advised him on how to continue to grow the festival and stuff.
And I'm like, you know, I told her, I'm like, damn, this guy came from Austria, had nothing, created this empire, this iconic, you know, brand, Arnold brand.
Everything about him is great.
I love him.
I looked up to him as a kid.
And now he says this.
And if he stayed in Austria, he wouldn't be shit.
He'd be like a charismatic farmer or something, you know?
Like, what would he be?
He'd be a police officer or whatever.
I mean, what was the upside?
What's the potential?
The reason why he got you famous is because Joe Eater gave him the opportunity to move to America.
Him and Franco started their own business.
And he went to college and he got the movies and became the guy.
I mean, everything he's done is so awesome.
Something that I really look up to.
I love Arnold's Rules of Success.
Great book, by the way, Total Recall.
If you haven't read it, you got to read Total Recall.
Yeah, Arnold's Rules for Success.
He's probably got a few hundred million views with that one speech he gives.
Everybody.
That's a great video.
I love one of the ones I like the best is, you know, I think he's, I think it's six hours of sleep.
So if you need any more, you sleep faster.
Yes, I know.
I love that.
So that was a reason for you to step away.
So, yeah, so seeing that, you know, it just, I needed to, I felt like it wasn't right to support him financially.
Not that I didn't love the show.
I mean, I'd love to be going this weekend.
You know, it's come up this weekend.
I would love to be there.
I'd love to, I enjoy the show.
It's actually a good show for the brand.
We have tons of fans that come, but it didn't feel right.
It didn't feel right to support him.
So I made a video that was very specific that I wanted to make sure don't, I'm not saying cancel Arnold.
I'm not saying don't go.
Do what you think is right.
Very classy.
You didn't disrespect him.
I didn't want it to be like that.
And I wanted it to be, you know, where, because I'm obviously not for cancel culture.
I just think that people need to support people or not support people with their dollars.
So as a business owner or even an individual consumer, like if you don't believe what the thing stands for, you actually are making a difference.
You're able to vote by not giving the dollars.
So to send him a few hundred thousand bucks just felt really wrong.
So that was it.
We did the video and then the blowback was like incredible.
You know, hundreds of stories from everything from USA Today to Daily Mail to The Hill, everybody.
Everybody covered it.
But Aaron, I mean, I'm a huge Arnold fan, man.
And, you know, in all fairness to him, you know, like you said, he comes from Austria.
So maybe, you know, English, second language type of thing, like maybe it's like, don't screw the maid.
Like, maybe it's the opposite.
I don't know.
So that's the stuff that I did about it.
Maybe it's like, you know, he said like, screw your freedoms the same way somebody said, Arnold, don't screw the maid.
And he's like, oh, so screw the maid.
Yeah.
No, I don't know.
Maybe, maybe that's what Arnold meant.
Look, you know, in that comment, when that comment was made, I mean, I had Arnold's posters in my room for God knows how many years.
I'm sure you did as well.
You know, the posters he's got, one of the best ones was the one with Muscle Magazine, black and white, of him posing.
I had it.
It's beautiful, 24 by 36.
I would buy all those magazines just for that.
Just for that.
When he had specials, you always bought the special Muscle Mac Flex Edition, Arnold Edition.
He's standing on the RNC stage screaming at the country not to be economic girly men.
Remember this?
I mean, this was...
He's smoking his stogies.
I smoke my stogies everywhere.
Stogie tells it, you can't smoke a stogie in your house.
I can because I'm a man.
He is the physical embodiment of freedom.
He is the physical embodiment of don't tell me what to do.
And then he's got the absolute temerity, the gall to say, screw your freedoms.
This isn't about you because I'm older and I've already lived my dreams.
Go stay in the house until I feel safe.
Screw Arnold, man.
So are they still expecting to have 250,000 people show up?
I seriously doubt it.
So now they have the mask mandate where every single person in Columbus must wear a mask everywhere they go.
With competitors?
That we don't know.
That we don't.
If he does that, oh my gosh, those pictures are going to be hilarious if they make competitors wear a mask.
I don't think they will.
I mean, I talked to my good friend.
They'll have more covering their face than the rest of their body.
I talked to my good friend Jim Mannion about it, and he said that he does not, there's no intention of having them wear masks on stage.
So I sure hope they don't because that'll be so ridiculous.
I know a lot of competitors are not happy about the whole thing.
What does Jim Mannion think about Arnold Classic?
Well, it's the second biggest show in the thing.
I mean, in all the organization.
I think that he likes it for sure.
I mean, yeah, I think he definitely likes it.
So he's a supporter of Arnold Classic.
Yeah, he's a supporter of the show.
Got it.
You said it would be ridiculous.
I mean, just think about this.
18 months ago, right?
Like, do we even have a barometer for what is and isn't ridiculous anymore?
I mean, in Jersey, I talked about this on the podcast a couple weeks ago.
Jersey, this is a true story.
They were having kids wrestling in a wrestling tournament, but for COVID reasons, they weren't allowed to shake hands before or after the Mat, then wrestle each other for eight minutes.
That's crazy.
Wrestle each other.
Can't shake hands after the Mat.
You know, because protocols.
So, I mean, like, what exactly is ridiculous anymore?
Like, what's common sense?
Do we even have a barometer on what it is and it isn't?
No, I mean, we were in New York and they had asked for the vaccine passport at the restaurant, me and my wife.
And they're like, well, you can still sit outside.
And we're like, okay, whatever.
We're hungry, right?
So we walk in through the restaurant, all the way through the restaurant to the outdoor area, and then they sit down.
And I'm like, well, we just walked all through the entire restaurant.
And then when they came back, I'm like, so where do I go to the bathroom?
She's like, oh, it's in the back over there.
You can just go back.
It's like, none of it makes sense.
And Chris Rock telling everybody, get it.
But he got sick, even though he has it.
So get it so that people don't get sick like the people who are.
Maybe we'll talk about what Howard Stern said about Rogan.
And by the way, apparently, my episode with Rogan apparently just went live, like a couple hours ago.
Pat's competing against Pat.
No, that's so funny because I'm getting text messages like we're watching a podcast, not your podcast.
I'm like, all good people.
People are clicking off now.
Thanks for coming, Aaron.
So we got some stories to cover with that.
But the one thing I do want to tell him when you were talking about Mr. Olympia, who's more powerful in the bodybuilding world, Jake Wood or Jim Mannion?
Oh, Jim Mannion, 100%.
Not even close?
Not even close.
Even though Jake Wood owns Mr. Olympia.
It's not even close to the power.
How does that work?
How does that work?
How is Jim Mannion have more power than Jake Wood?
Jake Wood owns Mr. Olympia.
So how does everybody get to the Olympia?
They have to go to the NPC, and then they have to go to IFBA Pro League shows.
They have to qualify through a pro-league show.
So there's no way getting to the Olympia is the end result of all these steps you have to go through first.
So if you removed everything in the beginning, nothing else exists.
Got it.
So a Jim Mannion, does he benefit from the owner of Olympia doing a better job marketing with the team that they have?
Or Jim Mannion doesn't give a shit because whether Olympia does well or not, Jim's going to make his money.
No, he cares for sure.
Jim's still a huge bodybuilding fan.
Oh, I know that for a fact.
And I got to tell you, it doesn't matter who it is.
Everybody that I talk to when the name Jim Mannion comes up, respect for that man at the highest level.
And I'm talking including haters.
Respect.
He's a great guy.
Look, ultimately, for me, I wouldn't even have told him this before.
I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you if it wasn't for him because I wouldn't have loved bodybuilding.
I wouldn't have had that outlet to go through.
I wouldn't have been able to go to all those shows with Dave Palumbo.
All of that is really predicated on his work.
Aaron, what happens to Mr. Olympia if they go the way they're going right now?
Because to me, I watch some of their marketing.
I mean, they got some guys I've had meetings with.
I watch some of their marketing.
I mean, if they go the way they're going right now, I have my own opinions.
I'm curious, you know, you're in the world.
You'll get me in trouble.
I have a tendency of getting myself and everybody around me in trouble sometimes when we do interviews.
What do you think is going to happen if they go the way they're going right now in regards to marketing?
Well, right now, I mean, it's a super tough time to have a live events.
Obviously, the last year was a loser because you couldn't possibly make it profitable.
This one that's coming up, I know that they did better with ticket sales and with the expo stuff.
But, I mean, obviously, the big thing is the expos in general are tough in the future because people want to have an experience.
You know, the days of waiting in line to meet Jake Cutler and get him to sign an autograph are so different.
Now you can see Jay on your phone and you can interact with him and you can, you know, it's not, no, there's no value in getting a photograph with Jay Cutler signed, right?
It's not the same thing.
So there needs to be some innovation in terms of like experience.
Like the NFL, you go to the Super Bowl and they have an experience you're going to there.
So I think there's something more to be done with that in the future.
It's got to, because the old way of the expo is going to fade away.
So if they go the way they're going right now, what could potentially happen on Mr. Olympia brand?
Well, if they go there the way they're going right now.
The thing is, is that Jake Wood is a very wealthy guy, and I think it depends on his appetite for keeping going, you know, and like not being, you know, this is a hobby and he loves it, which I know it is a hobby and he loves it.
It just depends on how far he wants to take it unless he does some stuff to change, you know?
It's interesting because you were talking about it before.
The kind of the older business model was have a great product first, and then your brand will evolve into your product.
Like make the best steak in town, and then that'll speak for itself.
And now in the digital marketplace with social media, like you have to have a brand first.
Like, what's our identity?
And then we'll find a product to sell to that market that identifies with our brand, right?
So it's kind of, it feels like the Olympia, from my understanding, is kind of that old school mentality where, hey, look, we're still the best.
We're still the premier name in bodybuilding, and that should be good enough.
That should stand alone.
And that's kind of how you get passed by.
There's an entire generation.
We were talking about this with Phil off the air.
When I was a kid, I could name 10 bodybuilders.
I could name 10 off the top of my head.
I can name people that never won.
I knew who Marcus Rule was.
I knew who Gunther was.
He was in movies.
Bodybuilders were in movies.
They were in beer festivals.
The guys did a good job getting their bodybuilders on camera and marketing them.
So people wanted to go above and beyond for the guy that was running the stroller.
I can't name three active bodybuilders.
So who do you think is going to compete in Mr. Olympia this year?
Who's going to win or is he going to compete?
Who's going to compete?
Brandon Curry's one.
Yeah.
Obviously, Rami, Randon Curry.
You got, I mean, let's see.
I'm thinking of my guys.
You got James Hollinshead is obviously going to compete.
He just moved down to Boca for the next few weeks, which will be fun.
Ruley is going to be there.
Ruli.
And then who just backed out of the Arnold?
Is it Hotty?
Honey?
Hotty is going to be there.
William Bonak.
William Bonak, thanks, Award.
William Bonak.
Steve Kuklow, probably, because he's probably going to win the Arnold because they're missing a lot of people doing the Arnold now.
Kuklo's going to win Arnold for him.
Great guy, by the way.
Great guy.
Very good.
He was just here to visit.
Oh, he's a fantastic guy.
I like him a lot.
He's a great guy.
Who do you think is going to win it this year?
I think Big Rami's going to win.
I think Big Ramy is a win.
Again, back to back?
I think so.
I think so.
Do you think he's going to go on to run like a 5-6-7-8 type of a run or no?
I don't think so.
But I don't know.
But the truth is there's a lot of young guys that are up and coming now.
And it's hard to say.
There's no outlier.
So when Phil was coming up, he was an outlier where you looked at him and you're like, dude, this guy's going to win forever.
We don't have anybody like that.
Do you have any desire to purchase Mr. Olympia yourself and you run it since it's your world?
Sure, of course.
You would want to do that.
What would you do if you're running it today?
I would do a lot of things differently.
You don't want to give the idea because you don't want them to do it.
Why would you give it to them?
They got to at least give you something to do it.
I would absolutely like to do it.
I mean, it would just be fun for like, I mean, in terms of legacy, I would like to carry on that legacy one day, you know, if Jake Wood didn't want to do it anymore, you know?
Yeah.
Do you think it has what it takes to be a billion-dollar brand by itself?
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
The sword of bodybuilding, I'm not sure if it has that kind of, first off, there hasn't been a real big push.
You know, they tried to do something.
The Rock tried to do something recently with The Rock Show and stuff.
Athletic Company.
Yeah, which is who knows if it's ever going to happen.
And then because of COVID stuff, very difficult to plan a huge event like that right now.
And then the fact that it is, it never really made it to TV.
So there was one recently where they had everything set up and it was at the Olympia and they had many cameras and everything.
And for whatever reason, it didn't work out and never got aired.
I don't even know why, but it was supposed to be on CBS Sports or something like that.
Being off TV makes a big difference.
When it was on TV, it exposed a lot more.
Well, there's a guy that's using TikTok.
I forget his name.
I'll just try to look it up real quick.
It's something with a D. He's hilarious.
He's really funny.
He's either German or he's some sort of Western European.
And he's a bodybuilder.
And he's got like, I think, seven and a half, eight and a half million followers on TikTok.
And he oscillates back and forth between doing training techniques and then like funny little sketches.
And this is the guy that does the chess stuff that's the same.
I don't know what his name is.
They say you cannot get a lot of money.
He's a competitor, though.
He's an Instagram bodybuilder.
Oh, is that really what he is?
He's not a professional.
I didn't even know that.
He's not a professional.
But he's got a ridiculous body.
He's got a great physique.
But he's not.
Which also makes bodybuilding a little more difficult because why be a bodybuilder when you can make more money doing that?
Yeah, interesting.
I have an idea.
If we ran Mr. Olympia, I think the number one guys would make one to three million every year.
And the purse would be much bigger.
But that's if we ran it.
But we don't.
I do other things.
But if that was the case, it'd be a completely different thing.
And the sport would be a little bit more creative.
There'd be more fun.
There would be more movies, shows, things like that.
But again, we don't, again, that's not our business model.
We're not doing Mr. Olympia, and Jake Wood is not selling the brand anytime soon.
But if he ever does, I think you're a qualified guy to also run Mr. Olympia.
What do you guys know about business?
Yeah, we don't.
So, okay, by the way, Arnold, since we're on the Arnold thing and we're just saying a lot of good things about him, let's stay on it.
So, Arnold Schwarzenegger says voters were right to retain Newsom, calls GOP field disastrous.
LA Times, he was a governor in 2003 after recall, said he received a relief.
He was relieved that Gavin Newsom kept his job.
Still, the Republican added that he was hopeful that the special election was a wake-up call for Newsom that makes him perform better.
The former Mr. Universe, who remains a registered Republican despite his disagreement, the former Mr. Universe, this is L.A. Time.
The former Mr. Olympia, and they say Mr. Universe, his disagreements with the state's party's path was harshly critical of the GOP field, and the recall is just disastrous.
He says the Republican candidates, they did the opposite, Schwarzenegger said, such as talking about eliminating environmental law supported by most Californians.
So what is going on with this Republican governor in California supporting with the way Newsom handled California?
What are your thoughts about what Arnold's saying here?
We're seeing it happen right before our eyes.
There is no left and right.
There is no Republican and Democrat.
It's all window dressing now.
There are the people, there are the elites who want to control you, the global elites, and then there are the people who just want to be left alone that the elites refuse to leave alone.
I mean, look at the Emmys in California.
These people sit there and they lecture you on how bad your life is while they're multi-millionaires grinding up on each other in $20,000 dresses, not wearing a single freaking mask.
Meanwhile, the kids in LA have got to sit in cubicles and wear masks all day long.
Like, come on, it's insane, man.
We're living in two different realities.
This let-them-eat brunch California elite is out of control.
And you look at a guy like Arnold, you know, how come he looks?
I actually agree.
I think the GOP is running bad campaigns.
The best thing the GOP has done in the last 10 years is just shut up and let people see what the Democratic Party really stands for.
That tells you how badly that party is being run on a national and a state level, where the quieter they are, the more people actually listen.
And you're seeing F. Joe Biden chants all over the place.
But that, he also could have come out and said something to the effect of: hey, national media, how come Larry Elder actually got attacked the way Jussie Smollett claims to have gotten attacked?
And you guys didn't cover it.
Jussie Smollett claimed to have gotten Smollett.
Jusse Schmollet.
I mean, there was a woman in a gorilla mask throwing eggs at this dude.
A black guy running for public office, a woman, a white woman in a gorilla mask throws eggs at this dude, and it was on the news for like half an hour.
First of all, there's a part about what Arnold's saying is right.
Larry Elder, qualified guy.
He just didn't have enough time to create momentum.
His concession speech was really good.
Whose?
Larry Elder.
Well, Larry's a G. Larry's a guy that he knows how to deliver the message, probably one of the best in America.
But they did not have five, six, seven, eight guys that wanted to get out there and do something about it.
There were certain people that said that I would go against the recall.
But the people that could have probably won it, do they really want the life of being the governor of the state of California on the right?
I don't know.
I don't know if somebody's going to want to do that.
They got to adjust their strategy, Pat.
They've given up on the cities.
If you give up completely on the cities, you can't win.
You cannot win by losing the cities by 90%, 92%, 93%.
You just can't do it.
You have to fight.
Look, that's where the voter fraud is happening.
That's where it's happening.
Voter fraud happens on both sides.
But if you can have people go into a high-rise building and literally walk door to door, ballot harvesting, technically illegal, it happens.
You go door to door and you could take literally 1,000, 2,000 ballots in each building.
You could knock out 10,000 people in a day.
In a month, that's 300,000 people.
How do you recover from 300,000 people?
If you just give up on the cities, you gave up on the country.
It's done.
They've got to get in there and fight.
What are your thoughts?
I mean, I just know the state of California, what it's like there with the homeless and the mismanagement money and going bankrupt.
And I mean, even me personally, I have an employee there and I pay state tax there as a, you know, because it's a nexus for us.
Very, you know, I don't understand how they take in so much money yet seem to have no money.
And I mean, it just, California is kind of mystifying to me.
I love the, I love visiting.
I used to love visiting there because of the weather, obviously, you know.
But man, you go there now and going back to bodybuilding, Venice Beach, you go to Gold's Gym.
There's there's tense, tense city all over there, peat needles and people, you know, shitty.
Plus, you're not paying your fair share, really.
It's your fault.
It is.
You guys should feel terrible.
Yeah, exactly.
I feel extremely guilty.
Pony up, guys.
I mean, you left.
Pony up.
You left.
So, there's no.
Do you miss it at all?
No.
No, I miss the friends.
I miss the restaurants.
I miss the community.
I miss my habits.
I miss my drive.
I miss the theater I would go to.
I'm a guy that's a ritual guy.
So I like to sit in the same place, same restaurant, same waiter, waitress.
You know, there's certain things I like.
And that part I absolutely miss.
The weather worldwide, probably the best weather in the world, minus a couple other places that could compete with it.
But the politics, I'm a freedom guy.
And the fact that they don't allow you to breathe and make a decision for yourself, it's just that automatically disqualifies from a guy like me being able to live in a place like that.
The whole purpose of why I work my ass off is because I want to be left alone.
That's why I work my ass off.
It's because just leave me alone, let me do my thing, and I'll create value in whatever community I live in.
I'm going to do my best.
I'm going to do my part.
But if you try to control too much, this reminds me of going back to Iran.
I have no desire going back to a place of a lot of control.
Think about what you just said.
And I know it was a joke and it was hyperbole.
Like, you know, they won't let you breathe.
Like, dude, they are literally telling you how and where it's okay for you to breathe.
They're telling you what you can do to breathe.
Like, put a mask over, sit down here.
If you're standing up, you could do this.
If you're sitting down, you could do this.
You know, like, why is it okay to take your mask off when you sit down?
Well, because obviously COVID is only six foot high.
Anybody, anybody five foot two or lower, they don't have to wear a mask, five foot three or above.
Dude, it makes no sense.
They're just addicted to the power.
And then you see the mayor of San Francisco who puts in a mask mandate, tells the entire county of San Francisco, the entire city that she's in front of, that she's in control of, what they can and can't do, and then goes out partying with no mask on.
And then when they call her on it, doesn't even apologize.
Says the spirit of the night took me over.
The spirit of the night.
I was feeling the vibe.
What is the meaning of spirit of the night?
What ecstasy she's talking about?
What is she talking about?
I don't know, man.
Dude, is this a blue pill or the purple pill?
I'll tell you what, bro.
Anybody listening to this, I'll tell you what, next time one of these people, and we all know who we're talking about, they want to come up in your face and they want to tell you how to live your life.
You just look them right in the eye and you say, I'm sorry, the spirit of the night overcame me.
I'm just going to go ahead and do whatever I want to do.
Can we talk about a hustler?
Is that okay if we talk about a hustler?
Something everybody can learn from.
Can you pull up the story of Manning, what Manning just did?
So Peyton Manning go to the story at the top.
Peyton Manning is making cold calls to indie liquor stores to put us bourbon on shelves.
If you can go a little lower to read this, Peyton Manning is not too enshrined in a Hall of Fame or too caught up in the overwhelmingly rave reviews of the Monday Night Football MegaCast, which they're crushing.
It's incredible, yeah.
To admit what his most critical job has been of late, he's been a hustler.
Words, not ours.
In a world of liquor, hustling is key, Manning said.
Or he, as he actually said, you kind of have to hustle on it or it gets lost in the shuffle.
What Manning has been hustling is a bourbon brand called Sweeten Cove Tennessee Bourbon for the liquor connoisseur.
Say the word by it.
Connoisseur.
Connoisseur out there, 84% corn, 8% rye, 8% malted barley.
Someone comes to Indiana shelves.
I'm in the cold calling business, Manning told ND Star.
Yes, Manning has been picking up the phones and making the calls.
The call that must certainly seem like a prank to the person on the other end.
You can imagine the pitch.
Can you imagine you get a call from this guy?
I'm Peyton Manning.
What do I need to do to get my bourbon into your liquor store?
What's his closing percentage?
Are you kidding me?
Knowing this guy?
He probably has a ratio.
He probably got data for everything.
I'm shooting, you know, what's higher.
It's completion percentage for his career or his closing percentage.
What do you think?
He was a closing percentage.
Oh, I'm going to say closing.
I need to say no to it.
If you believe it's him, right?
Because if it was me, I'd be like, yeah, right, man.
You know what I would do?
I would FaceTime.
I'd say, hey, let's just FaceTime you.
You don't believe me?
Let me FaceTime you.
If he FaceTimed you, and then 100%.
Send it.
Send it.
100%.
But are you surprised, though?
See, these are the small little, you know, like, I bet you got stories.
Like, even you talked about it earlier, what you were doing when you're sending your stuff, when you're writing the stories.
Behind every great entrepreneur or great hustler, you have weird stories like this that doesn't make sense.
I'll give you a crazy story.
Okay.
I haven't told this story for like eight years, seven years.
So it's 2000.
Let me see what year it is.
It's 2007.
I'm about to qualify for a trip to go to Dubrovnik, to go to Venice, to go to Massanovia, to go to Italy, to go to all those places.
Okay.
My assistant at the time, I asked him, did you renew my life insurance license?
Okay.
He says, I renewed all your license.
I said, are you positive?
He says, I renewed all your licenses when I ever missed it.
I said, you know what?
This guy's a pretty credible guy.
He's been with me for many years.
Fine.
You renewed it?
I renewed it.
Fantastic.
So I go.
One day goes by.
Two days goes by.
The last week, all the business that goes in, I'm going to Europe.
All of a sudden, I get a call from the company saying, yeah, none of this stuff you're submitting right now is going to count for you.
Why?
Because your license has been suspended for two weeks.
I said, what?
He says, because you forgot to renew your license.
So what do I do?
I scream his name.
Put him on speaker.
Ma'am, can you please tell him what you just told me right now?
Yeah, your license hasn't been renewed because it was enough.
So his face turns red.
He's panicking.
He's freaking out.
I said, what the hell is going on here with my license being renewed?
I want to go to Dubrovnik.
I want to go to all these places.
There's no way this is going to happen.
I'm telling you, I renewed it.
Show to me.
Hour later, he says, I effed up.
I didn't renew it.
I've lost my mind at this point.
Okay.
I'm losing my mind.
So it's okay.
Let me see what I can do.
I call Department of Insurance California.
And by the way, Department of Insurance California, most difficult people to work with.
So I call and I say, yes, my name is Patrick Bay David.
How are you?
Man, I speak with the manager, please.
This is her.
Great.
Hey, my license, I just got a word that expired.
What do I need to do to renew my license?
They said, sir, it's going to take about four to six weeks to renew it.
I said, no, no, you don't understand.
Four to six weeks is $50,000 of commission, $60,000.
I need this thing to be renewed.
Sir, everybody calls us for this.
This happens all the time.
It's okay.
Just be patient with us.
Four to six weeks, we'll renew it.
Her name was Gail.
I said, Gail, I'm on the phone with like five, six, seven people.
I said, Kay, Gail, let me just put it to you this way.
If you don't renew my license, I swear to God, I'm going to be there tomorrow morning.
I will dance outside your office.
I will bring flowers.
I will bring 200 people singing your name nonstop until you renew my license.
I'm going to show up tomorrow morning at 5 a.m.
Says, Patrick, even if you show, we cannot renew it.
I said, I'm going to make the biggest scene until you renew my license.
Patrick, don't waste your money.
I said, I'm coming.
Don't, don't, don't, don't come.
Please don't come.
I said, Gail, I'm coming to California.
What happens?
I tell my guy, I booked a flight.
I go to Sacramento.
I go find a Department of Insurance.
I flew to Sacramento.
Now, watch what happens.
There is no door.
Like, there is not a door.
It's one of those doors.
You know, the doors behind like an industrial building that's like there is not a window to see who's working inside.
But I'm there at 5 a.m.
I tell my hotel guy, bring me two buckets of coffee, okay, for me to get from Starbucks.
Bring me dozens of donuts.
I'm going to stand out there, keep telling you, I'm giving everybody a flyer.
Can you please give this to Gail?
I'm Patrick.
Coffee to everybody.
Everybody's coming in.
Hi, how are you?
I'm Patrick Bedeva.
I need to renew my license.
Could you please tell Gil, here's my flyer.
I'm giving it to everybody, one by one by one.
They're going in.
And then an hour later, she doesn't show up.
Two hours later, she doesn't show up.
One employee comes out.
Patrick, we're not going to renew your license for four to six weeks.
Do you realize if we do this, everybody else is going to do what you're doing?
We cannot do this.
I said, you got to renew my license.
I said, if you don't, I have mariachi folks showing up right now.
I have dancers showing up right now.
She says, you can't do this kind of stuff.
This is too much.
I said, I'm going to do all this stuff.
Anyways, long story short, Gail comes out.
Okay.
Gail comes and says, Patrick, what do I need to do to get rid of you?
Everybody's talking about you right now.
I said, Gail, just renew my license.
She says, if I renew your license, will you leave town?
I said, I'm not leaving until on your website.
It says Patrick Bedeva's license renewed to the date.
Okay.
She says, let me see what I can do.
She goes inside.
Amur calls me, my chief compliance officer.
She says, Patrick, your license has been, you know, you've been terminated.
They're calling me from, what are we going to do?
You can't go to Europe.
I said, dude, let me just tell you, I'm in California right now in Sacramento.
Let me see what I can do.
Gail comes out.
She says, here, your license is renewed.
I said, Gail, give me the biggest hug.
Gave her a hug.
Got her two dozen roses.
She says, get the hell out of here.
And said, don't ever tell anybody.
So I'm not telling anybody.
I'm just telling two people right now.
Like a handful of us right now.
Anyways, tomorrow morning, Amor Metal.
There's a line of hardware.
Amur calls me saying your license was freaking renewed.
They made a mistake.
I said, nobody made the mistake.
I'm in Sacramento.
Anyways, so those are the stories that many times people don't.
I went to Europe.
Cost you 10 grand to get your license renewed.
My favorite trip of all time up until that point was Dubrovnik.
Till today, my favorite place in the world.
If I didn't renew my license, I'm not going to Dubrovnik.
Sweet.
That's the story sometimes behind closed doors you don't hear about.
So Manning, massive, massive shout out to a hustler like Manning.
It's the competitive spirit.
And it's what he talked about with you before.
You had that addictive personality, but you channeled it into the right way now.
A buddy of mine, I talked to you about Prince Lorenzo Borghese.
This guy was on The Bachelor.
He's been on Bachelor in Paradise.
He's been on.
He's a freaking name, bro.
First of all, name like that.
You go up to a girl.
What's your name?
Mary.
What's your name?
Prince?
Lorenzo Borghese.
Lorenzo Borghese.
It's a done deal.
He was in, what was that, Celebrity Big Brother with the, he got into the fight with the situation.
He's a good friend of my buddy Rocco.
Rocco was on Lucky Bastards on Esquire with him.
They know each other.
Anyway, the point is, this guy's got notoriety, fame, money.
He sells South Beach Brewery.
And now he's driving around the truck himself, delivering the stuff himself, going and making the sales calls himself because he's like, hey, I put my thing into this.
I'm not going to call people.
I'm not going to tell people.
He doesn't want to be like Cabo Wabo.
This is so-and-so.
Shake my hand.
This is mine.
Like, it's actually mine.
I'm doing it.
And it's really, really important to him.
He likes that.
He likes the hunt.
He likes being out there in it.
That's what makes the story sexy.
That's what makes the story exciting.
You have to have that story of a hustle whenever you're doing something big.
I just want to know where he gets the time to do it.
How much time?
Peyton addict.
Dude, at that point, the bigger you get, the more support you got.
You have no idea.
You have so much support.
Biggest thing people misunderstand about business is there's a 10-year period of you not having a life.
There's 10 years.
And that's the 10 years people don't want to give up.
But you have no life.
When I tell you no life, I mean, you have no life.
It's an 80-hour week of no life.
Then after that 10 year, the amount of support and help you have, your life is given back to you and you gain back years for that 10 years of sacrifice you made.
That's the exchange people don't want to make.
That's exactly what happened to me.
I really don't do anything I don't want to do anymore.
But you earned it, though, Aaron.
Right, yeah.
Literally, if there's something in my life that I really don't want to do, then I have somebody to support person that's able to do it for me, like Eduardo over there.
For instance, if you don't want to support Arnold Classic, you just don't support him.
Yeah, that's true.
That's right.
Yeah.
But giving that, the work gives you the ability to have freedoms.
That's what I think of when people talk about making it being financially free to me.
It's just being able to do or not do the things you want to do anytime.
There you go.
So now let's talk about what Facebook did.
Folks, I'm going to talk about Facebook's VIP list, and I want you to ask yourself if you're maybe on this VIP list.
So let's go through it.
This is a CNBC story.
Okay.
This is a CNBC story.
Facebook shields millions of VIP users from standard moderation protocols.
Facebook is using this program that whitelists millions of VIP users from the company's standard content moderation practices, according to Wall Street Journal.
Every day, Facebook users can have their content taken down immediately if the company's artificial intelligence technologies or contracted content moderators find their posts to be violation of the company's rules.
Users in the XCHEC program, however, may have their content stay light on Facebook services before being routed into a separate moderation system.
That process is also staffed by better trained content moderators who are full-time employees, according to the report.
Wall Street Journal said that there were 5.8 million VIP Facebook users in 2020.
Pretty interesting to think.
It's not a small number, by the way.
Not too big.
5.8 million VIP users in 2020.
I wonder how many of them are businesses.
Because for RedCon One, we are whitelisted to post ads.
So we can post an ad with limited moderation.
Instead of being an algorithm, it's a person that checks it off.
Yeah.
So we have a level of, so I don't know if that's if it's companies or just individuals, but for companies, if you do enough business with Facebook and you never broke any rules, then they give you a little bit of more leeway.
Because for us, if we have a thousand ads that you're launching all at once and it's time-sensitive and it doesn't get approved in time, it can cause problems.
We cannot spend more money on Facebook.
That's really what they're concerned with.
Does that bother you?
Yeah.
Tell me why that bothers you.
Well, first of all, it's just more of what I was talking about earlier.
It's the aristocracy versus the plebeians.
It's just rules for thee, but not for me.
My servant has to wear a mask.
I would want to know.
I actually would want to know what that criteria is.
For example, if do they use a trend like this account?
I can be specific.
I can be absolutely specific.
I told you, and you know this, for the people that don't know out there, I had a pretty active Facebook account.
I was getting millions of views.
I could count on between three and five grand every month off my Facebook account.
And then I made a post correlating the pandemic to the Wuhan lab.
And the next morning I woke up, my page was demonetized, restricted, and I couldn't post for 30 days.
My monetization is still not back to this day.
That's happened to a lot of people.
Meanwhile, Jon Stewart goes on Colbert four months later, says the exact same thing I said, and it gets applauded.
Oh, look at the intelligence of Jon Stewart, the bravery.
I'm sitting here.
I go live on Facebook.
I'm like, are you serious?
Can I get a fact check on this?
Look, Donald Trump, the former president, is not allowed, but the Taliban leaders are allowed.
Yeah.
They're okay.
Exactly.
So on Twitter.
Among them is soccer star Neymar, 5.8 million.
In 2019, he posted new photos of a woman who had accused him of rape to his Facebook account.
According to the report, this type of content would have typically been removed, but XCheck protected Neymar's account and blocked Facebook's moderators from taking it down right away.
Ultimately, 56 million Facebook and Instagram users saw Neymar's content according to the report.
Wow.
Okay, so this is that's pretty crazy to think about.
I'm just curious to know if there is a way to get access to that 5.8 million VIP.
Because if they can come up with a number with 5.8 million, that means there's a way to find out who is on that VIP list.
And is there a trend?
And they know he's on it and they know there's an ex-check system.
So somebody knows something about it.
So it's probably embarrassing for Facebook.
It is embarrassing for that to come out.
There's nothing that can embarrass them.
There's nothing that can embarrass Facebook.
They get caught reading your messages.
They don't care.
They get caught silencing opposition.
They don't care.
Their fact-checking is an absolute joke.
It's a literal joke with this.
By the way, FYI, as much as we trash Facebook, liberals cannot stand Facebook, just so you know.
They cannot stand Facebook.
They cannot stand Zuckerberg.
Like, he's one of the most hated guys on their side because in their eyes, just so you know, they think Trump won with the help of Facebook.
So there is, in 2016, he won because of Facebook.
You know what?
What, the social dilemma, or what was the documentary that they made about the social dilemma with the micro metadata and all that stuff?
They just used it.
Yeah, I interviewed the girl from that.
Brittany, I interviewed him.
The one that wrote the book.
Yeah, I interviewed that book.
Everybody in the world is at fault for Donald Trump winning, except Hillary Clinton being the worst, least likable candidate of all time.
It's amazing the depths that they'll go to blame.
You have two choices for a president, Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Democrats didn't even choose Hillary Clinton.
You have a choice between Hillary and Clinton.
I hear you, but Democrats didn't even choose Hillary.
She rigged her own primary guy.
You know why?
Because I think at least the enemy would fear her a little bit.
Yeah.
because there's a part of her that she's got a track record of people disappearing, so there's an element.
She's way scarier.
You do realize you're asking the difference between gonorrhea and like AIDS, right?
It's like, yeah, I'd rather not.
I'd rather not.
No, I actually think it's the difference between somebody not being feared and somebody being feared.
There's a big difference.
Yesterday I had a guy on, David, what was the name of the guest we had on yesterday where we ended up doing it right on time?
The interview.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I don't want to mispronounce his name, but it is Adieta.
Somebody get Kaibak here.
What are we doing?
Say it again.
Adita Raj Kul.
Raj.
I think you're actually saying it right.
You know what?
I'm impressed.
Okay, thanks.
I was not expecting you to get this right.
Yeah, so Adatya Raj Kaul, who is the guy that's been talking, speaking on what's going on with Afghanistan the entire time.
And we had a conversation about what's going on.
He's over there.
He spent the most time talking about what's going on there.
He represents CNN news of India.
And we talked a lot about Afghanistan.
And one of the comparisons I made, you know, he said, this is Trump's fault.
This is Biden's fault.
This is both of their fault.
This is Bush's fault, Obama's fault.
Anybody that's been a president the last 20 years.
Fair.
You know, which is fair.
Absolutely.
Which is fair.
And then I made the comparison and he says, listen, I'm a guy that voted for Biden.
I thought Biden would have been the right person to handle this situation with Afghanistan.
And then I said, do you see the comparison between what he did and what Carter did?
When it comes down to presidency, you cannot have a guy like that be a number one.
Biden may be a good number two or three or four or five or six, but not a good number one.
And then he turns around and says, look, at this point of the game, I have to agree with you.
You're right.
I've changed my position.
I don't think he's the right guy for the job.
And I asked him, who would have been a better, Hillary or him?
He said, Hillary.
He said the same thing as well.
Well, hey, even our Lord and Savior, Barack Obama, once said, never underestimate Biden's ability to F it up.
So, I mean, I don't know if he was a great number two either.
Did you see the story about what happened with Saki yesterday when she was asked if Biden has ever been to the border?
Can you pull up that story, David?
The story on, I think it's the first one you got there.
Second one, second one right there, Biden administration.
Check this out.
So if you haven't seen the video, I suggest you watch it.
We can't play it right now for obvious reasons.
White House has no answers on when Biden has ever, not in the last 12 months, not in the last 10 years, ever in his lifetime, visited the border or how many migrants have been released into the U.S.
So go to the bottom to exchange, to read the exchange.
So Fox News correspondent Peter Doocy, press White House press secretary, asked pressed White House Press Secretary Jen Sacchian whether Biden has ever in his life been to the southern border, saying, I've been looking all morning, and we cannot find any records of him at visiting the border as president, vice president, senator, or even as a concerned citizen.
Why would that be?
Okay, so this is not about as a president or VP, period, ever.
Go a little lower.
She pushes a little bit more.
Sackey could not provide a date and says she would check.
Docey pushed further, noting that the president has made a point in the past to travel around the country when areas are affected by wildfires, hurricanes, to see the needs of the local community.
And then she says, well, first of all, Peter, I think the situation at the border is the result of a broken system.
And the president certainly relies on his experience.
So whether it was the work he did to address the root causes as vice president, his efforts when he was in the Senate to support comprehensive immigration reforms that at a time was or done being done and worked towards a bipartisan way, something that certainly we think should be the case today.
He uses all his experience from the past.
Anyways, the whole point is she could not say that he's ever been to the southern border.
So this is my question for you.
This is my question for you.
Does that matter?
And if yes, why does that matter?
Yeah, he needs to see what's going on on the border.
He needs to have an experience so he can base his leadership and his decisions on something he's seeing for himself.
And it's also for the people there.
And to be a leader, you need to, you know, I always tell my kids, lead from the front.
You know, this is a guy who has never even been to the place down, you know, a three-hour flight from him.
Yeah, the listen, I don't know if anything outside of optics would occur from a president being down there, but it does make it seem like, okay, at least he's prioritizing this.
You know, the rhetoric that we get from the White House out of this stuff.
I mean, you know, it's amazing how, you know, law-abiding Americans, they got no problem yelling at us and telling us our patience is wearing thin, you know, with people that just want to be left alone.
Meanwhile, you got people, you know, storing, you have an actual humanitarian crisis at your border that you guys have created just because, let's be honest, you need the votes.
You're trying to shove as many blue votes into red states as you possibly can.
If there were a bunch of Canadians trying to escape Trudeau's socialist paradise up north, coming through the northern border and turning Michigan red, watch how fast there'd be an ice wall up on our northern border, right?
But listen, and also to that point, if I'm correct, I think as many as 25% of all votes in the recount were from people born outside of the United States of America in California.
So the strategy is working.
All right.
And even Beto Rourke says he's going to run for governor.
So they've counted enough people coming across the border where Bateau thinks the third time's a charm.
Who knows?
He's going to get in there.
Look at how many cartel people are coming across.
They don't care.
I mean, you've seen the Afghans, some of the Afghan refugees raping kids.
They don't care.
They care about power and power.
I verified the story with the gentleman yesterday, and I said, is child marriage taking place right now?
He says, absolutely.
Yeah, it's horrible.
He said mothers are being threatened for their lives because they have no food.
They have nothing.
They're exchanging their 10-year-old daughters to other Taliban men in exchange for food and freedom.
We did that.
That's got to be so unbelievably mind-boggling to even think about a person being put in a situation like that to make that decision.
Our tax dollars finance that situation.
$300 million a day for voters.
Finance that situation.
It was happening before we went in there.
We just spent a bunch of money and wasted it to do nothing.
It wasn't like the Taliban was nice before.
Since I've been on this podcast, man, a lot of people DM me and some of it's awesome.
And I love the guys that DM me.
A lot of it's not so awesome.
But one of the things I've noticed about the more liberal among us, or the more left among us, they disagree with me very, very publicly in the comments.
But if they agree with me, it's very, very quietly in the DMs, right?
But one of the things that they always talk about is, look, like taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.
Taxes, we need to do this.
The rich just got to pay a little bit more.
And my whole thing comes back to, guys, we don't have a revenue problem in this country.
There's $4 trillion just in federal income tax.
That doesn't take into account state income tax.
That doesn't take into account any of the soft taxes that you can't pay.
It doesn't take into account tickets.
It doesn't take into account tolls.
We do not have a revenue problem in this country.
$4 trillion, we're still running 128% deficit against GDP.
You think they're going to run the country better on $7 trillion than they did on four?
No way, man.
So one of the things that they have to do now, if you're listening to this and if you're on the left side of the aisle and we're missing soy man today, but you need to now prove to the rest of us that if you get more money, because the government's asking to double its budget right now.
And they're asking not just for the money that we're making right now.
They're going after future earnings, all right?
And they're going after our past with inflation.
They're going after our future with investment income and they're going after our past.
They're going to take it all.
You have to show us that this money buys something other than death and destruction.
This is what it buys.
You need to show us that it doesn't, that the money is going to something other than lobby firms, man.
You have to show us that it's going to something other than defense contractors.
$21 trillion?
Two, two trillion dollars.
Well, no, no, I'm saying in Afghanistan, was it $21 trillion?
$2 trillion.
So $2 trillion.
$300 million a day for it's $2 to $3 trillion.
$2 to $3 trillion.
And I think that might have been what it is.
Out of $3 trillion, I don't want to give this stat incorrectly.
Somebody got to look it up.
But I think it was out of $3 trillion, $2.8 trillion went to defense contractors.
Yeah, I don't know that.
I don't know that figure right there to verify it.
But going back to the question about Biden never been to the southern border, when Lester Holter pushed Kamala in June about the fact that you've never been to the border, and she says, what's the big deal?
I've never been to Italy.
I've never been to Europe.
What does that have to do with anything?
That was her.
After her laugh, after her laugh.
Yeah, so the question then becomes, you know, in a situation like this, okay, do you think Obama would have been at the border right now if he was president?
Do you think Obama would have visited?
He understands optics better than I did.
I actually think Obama would have visited.
You think Bill Clinton would have visited?
Yeah.
You think Hillary would have visited?
Yeah.
We know Trump would have visited.
You think Bush would have visited?
We know what Bush did with 9-11.
He went right there.
By the way, this is not a Republican or Democratic thing.
Why the hell are you not visiting?
This is not a Republican or Democratic thing.
You just made an actually really great point about Kamala Harris.
Like, that is also another reason against this kind of global government globalization.
Like, out of sight, out of mind, if this wasn't a federal problem, if it wasn't the federal border, the Texans would take care of the border.
The Texans that live at that area would handle the border fine.
Locally, they would take care of it.
The fact that it's a federalization, somebody that works in D.C. and grew up and lives in San Francisco doesn't give a damn about the border.
She just, like what you said, I've never been to Italy either.
It's abstract to her.
So now if we go global, guys, do you think somebody in Beijing or somebody, some bureaucrat in Germany is going to give a damn about the southern border?
You think they're going to care about Maricopa County in Arizona, man?
They're not going to care.
The bigger government gets, the more global it gets, the worse things we'll get in a micro sense.
It could be that Biden doesn't have the energy for a trip like that.
Or it could be that he's not actually making any businesses.
I don't know about that.
Let me tell you why I don't know about that because he went to Delaware for vacation just a couple weeks ago.
So I think the travel part he could do.
I'm actually trying to really see why not because does it force the media on the left to talk about what they're not doing right?
Let me give you an idea where I'm going with this.
I watched a Jake Tapper interview the other day with Blinken.
Have you seen that interview or no?
It's a 14-minute clip.
I've seen clips.
Okay, if you haven't seen it, highly recommend you go watch it.
Jake Tapper, like on Rogan, I said I think Jake Tapper is one of the most necessary people also in America today because Jake is a guy that'll still push.
Jake will ask the question.
I think Jake is actually relatively, you know, if everybody's, if Don Lemon is far left, and you got Chris Cuomo here and all these guys, center see, I think Jake is here, which I appreciate Jake doing his job and pushing back.
He pushed Blinken on a lot of issues.
He says, look, you're still not answering my question for you.
What happened there?
Why did you guys make the decision that we guys made?
The question I'm asking you is, even the left is right now getting sick of their candidate that won.
The left is sick of it.
This is not about a left or right thing right now.
The left is sick of it.
So to go to the thought of saying, well, maybe they're not going because Zucker had a call in the background, not Zuckerberg.
I'm talking Jeff Zucker had a call in CNN saying, hey, let's get everybody on the same page.
And they do a conference call saying, do not go to the southern border because it's a bad book because you're going to get so much hate.
I don't think that's the case.
So why have they not gone there?
I know Kamala went to El Paso.
I understand that the whole Guatemala, El Paso, all of that stuff.
Why has he not gone there?
Well, you know, it's the same thing.
It's a very interesting question.
I don't know.
I tend to think you might be right.
Maybe, you know, he doesn't have the capacity to do it.
Maybe they know.
I also don't think he's, he's a, I really don't think he's a decision maker, guys.
I really don't think he is.
He is going to get, you mentioned, he's going to get definitely walking there.
He's going to get a lot of, fuck Joe Biden.
He's going to get people's football.
Going back to your point, though, about the left media, there's two things that you said that were very, very interesting and worth tracking.
One, Hunter Biden's emails were confirmed.
They were confirmed, and that hasn't been covered.
It was a blip.
Hasn't been covered at all.
Well, the Hunter Biden emails that he was selling access and that Joe Biden was signing off on it was confirmed.
It should be a bigger conspiracy than almost anything in our lifetime.
And no one's even talking about it.
That's number one.
What do they are talking about?
You saw this week what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop.
Yeah.
Have you seen the progress they're making with it?
Yeah, but it wasn't like front page and it wasn't like all over the place.
Not yet, but they're about to.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're about to.
They're not going to have a choice.
And number two on that is you mentioned Don Lemon.
Very, very, very interesting in the pass-off from Lemon's show to, you know, there's a thing now with the far left progressive, the racial progressive specifically.
While you're saying, hold that thought.
Folks, if you're listening to this, I'm actually curious.
Why do you think they haven't visited Biden hasn't visited the southern border?
I'm looking at some of people's comments.
Go ahead.
You were saying.
Yeah, so the girl who went missing, and it's highly suspected that her boyfriend has something to do with it.
There's a racial component to it, apparently, that the social justice left hates the amount of attention that this story is getting.
And they're saying if it was a black woman, essentially they're saying this would have never happened.
And I guess the police questioned the boyfriend and he is not saying anything.
And Don Lemon said that that's white privilege.
They would press a black kid until they said something.
And Chris Cuomo, my mind almost exploded.
Chris Cuomo says, absolutely not.
It's your right not to speak.
And then he actually pushed back against it.
And I was like, whoa, did Chris Cuomo just disagree with Don Lemon?
Como said, it doesn't matter if you're white or black, they'll do it.
He says, yes, but poor.
And then Don corrected him.
Don Lemon pivoted.
He went from black.
He said, poor, poor white and black people.
He says, you think if I wasn't Don Lemon, if I was a, he says, but poor.
So he changes position.
So I saw Chris pushing him back.
I think you shared that with me yesterday.
Yeah, very interesting.
I was like, if the left is starting to push back against the left, that is good progress because we got to, like you said, you know, the center is where it is, right?
We talk about the, you know, I'm a prescriber of the horseshoe theory.
We talk about it a little bit.
Like we think about left and right in this country.
Like the furthest thing away from a Nazi is to be a communist.
So therefore commie's good.
That's the whole Antifa thing.
It's not a linear political spectrum.
It's a horseshoe, right?
So the Nazis and the commies, the far right and the far left, are way closer to each other than they are to anything in the center, right?
So, I mean, that's kind of the idea.
And I wish that that was taught better in school.
I wish that people had a better understanding of that.
But, you know, if the center left can start taking control of their room, if the center left can start having a louder voice, the country is headed in the right direction.
It says because they're cowards, all this stuff they're saying, because Biden this, because he knows it's going to be all over the news.
I actually don't think that's the case.
I'd like to know what the reason is.
And I don't think the left or the right knows what the reason is, why they're not going there.
I don't know.
Maybe it's something bigger than we even know.
But even yesterday, when they turned on the Haitians, you know, that they're coming here, and then you saw Maxine Waters came out and said, you know, Hazian lives are black lives.
If Hazian lives matter, black lives matter, Hazian lives matter.
And then they're coming here because their country is not good and they're leaving to come to America.
We have to take care of them.
They're not coming here to stay.
And then statistics came back and said, wait a minute, these guys have been living down there for years.
This is not like safe.
They saw safe, anti-mandite, massive, and anti-mandate protests in New York City.
Yeah.
Led by Black Lives Matter.
Yeah.
I mean, it's turning upside down.
It's confusing.
The world's kind of nut, which is, but it's again, it's a good thing, man.
People don't like not being free.
I mean, the weird thing is, you shared with me the Nikki Minaj thing, and she's saying 80% of people agree with her, but they're afraid.
Who are they afraid of?
Who is getting to them?
Who are they afraid of?
Like, you're, you know, I'm not liberal media canceling them.
But he's saying the media is afraid to cover.
So if the media is afraid and the entertainer is afraid, who are they afraid of and why?
But wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
That's a complete different topic.
So if Nicki Minaj's community...
I don't know that it is.
But let's unpack it and let's hash this out and debate it.
So who's when she's saying 80% of people agree with me, but they don't want to go public about it?
So maybe she's talking about other celebrities like herself.
That's the way I took it.
Fine, I took it that way as well.
So let's just say she's talking about other celebrities like herself.
Why would they publicly go out there and support Nikki?
No, but in that live, she's saying that they agree with what she's saying, but they're being bullied into saying other things.
No, no.
So I get that.
I'm fully there.
What I'm saying to you is: why if they agree with Nikki, are they not comfortable coming out publicly supporting her position?
Because they're worried about repercussions.
They're worried about repercussions.
So what are the repercussions?
Losing jobs, potential gigs.
So losing jobs, losing gigs.
What else?
I mean, like the actors that I know in Hollywood that are conservative don't express it because they feel like they'll be ostracized from that community and they won't get killed.
I mean, we saw what happened with Vince Vaughan.
I mean, Vince Vaughn, one of the best actors, just because he supported Ron Paul at a campaign and he's a, you know, came out as a libertarian.
We saw what happened to him.
The only person they can't do nothing to is one guy that they cannot touch.
Seems like Chris Pratt, they tried to cancel him and they couldn't.
They cannot touch Clinice Wood because he simply doesn't give a shit and he's got a half a billion dollars.
He's 90.
Say whatever the hell you want to say.
I make my own movies.
I fund my own movies.
I don't need your money.
So the more they're free of the powers of Hollywood, the more they can't do it.
John Boyd.
John Boyd's a good friend.
I'm dinner with him and he's fantastic.
I had dinner with him.
He's one of the bigger reasons why I do what I do, him and George Will.
He's a fantastic guy.
But even like guys like him, but Clint is an A. John's probably, John's not, you know, so, but, you know, what do they lose?
Okay, so when Joe and I were talking, I asked him the question that asked everybody.
Here's a question: Who's the most powerful source today in America today?
The U.S. president, the richest man in America, the educational system, virtual governments, which is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, or mainstream media.
Let me say that one more time.
Folks, I want to get your answer on this as well.
This is a part of the conversation with Joe and I.
The U.S. president, who's the most powerful person in America, the U.S. president, okay, actually grade this, rank it.
Take a moment.
I'm curious to know what you're going to say about it.
Rank them, Gerard, if you already have them.
The U.S. president, okay, rank them, folks, if you're listening to this.
I'm so curious.
Who's the most powerful person or organization in America today?
The U.S. president, the richest man in America, so like a Bezos or Elon Musk.
Or Soro.
Then you got the educational system that's influencing kids' minds.
Are you talking like the union, like NGA?
I'm just talking about universities, Berkeley.
I'm talking about University of Chicago.
I'm talking about Stanford.
Sure.
So, and then you have virtual governments, which is Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, all those guys, or mainstream media, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, all those guys.
In order of five, one by one by one, who do you think is the most powerful?
In order of five.
And I'll tell you what Joe said.
But in order of five, is it the president?
Is it the richest man, which is Bezos or Elon Musk?
Is it the education?
We're talking about acutely, not like this is like something right now.
I'm talking right now who is the most powerful person.
The reason I'm saying that is because the educational system may be forming young minds, but today it won't make a difference for today.
I'm considering it as like the education lobby.
Like the education.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm putting that one at the bottom.
You're putting education at the bottom.
Okay.
Because in the future, it's huge, but today it's huge.
Fair enough.
Actually, great question you're asking.
I actually like the question you're asking.
Okay, fair.
Long term, they would probably at the second or you know, maybe even first place educational.
So do you have your five?
Yeah, I got my six.
Okay, go.
What's your six?
All right, six, president of the United States.
So you have so president's at the bottom.
Six.
Okay, here we go.
Five, education lobby.
Yep.
Four, big media.
You mean MSM?
Yeah.
Mainstream media.
Okay.
Three, big tech.
Yep.
Two, richest guys.
One, Xi Jinping.
Stop.
You really like that guy.
So you putting the richest.
Zijing Biden.
You putting the richest guy has the most power in America today?
I do.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know about them.
The richest guy can buy two, three, and four.
You think so?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
So we'll have some fun with that.
And the president can't do anything without the votes.
You have an opinion on first?
Who you think your first is?
I got one.
You got your opinion?
Let's hear Aaron's and then I'm going to come to you guys to hear what your first is.
So I'm going to say Facebook, number one.
Facebook, you know, all digital media.
You said virtual government.
Yep.
Number one, United States president, number two.
And then number three is media, mainstream media.
Number four is richest man in America, richest man in the world, I guess.
And number five is educational systems, colleges, perfectly.
So interesting.
But what's your number one?
Yeah, I agree with Aaron.
My number one, social media.
It's got to be you put number one.
You're also saying.
My friend was also social media.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Do you have an opinion on that?
What do you think is number one?
Same social media?
Who?
Education.
Wow, interesting because he's thinking also.
Okay, Rogan said social media is number one.
Okay.
So, but for you, for you, you said the richest man has got the most power today.
Tell us why.
Well, the golden rule.
Do you know what the golden rule is?
What's that?
You treat everybody how you want to be treated?
Yeah, that's what they tell you it is.
The golden rule, Aaron, is he who has the gold makes the rules.
I heard that one too.
So listen, big tech is great, but the richest man can buy big tech.
He doesn't like you.
Jeff Bezos doesn't like what the Washington Post is posting.
Do you know what he does?
Buys the Washington Post.
So the president of the United States is not a very powerful person because he needs all those other people for his power.
Those other people do not need the president for their power.
We talked about this a couple podcasts back.
It dawned on me.
I thought I grew up in New York, the media capital of the world, LA, Hollywood.
We think of where are the power centers in the world?
Where are the power centers?
Right?
And this goes to your argument.
This goes to Joe Rogan about big tech.
We would think the power centers are New York, right?
LA, D.C., we're all wrong.
The power centers in America right now are San Francisco because of its proximity to Silicon Valley.
And what scares me and why, you know, Pat's joking about my proclivity to bring Xi Jinping into things.
Big tech and mainstream media are not beholden to the president of the United States.
They are beholden to China.
They change their rules for China.
They change their distribution for China.
They don't do that for us.
So if the most powerful, if the epicenter of power in the United States is San Francisco, and they aren't beholden to us, they're beholden to Beijing, that's a scary thing.
Why do you have virtual government first and why do you have president second?
So I have virtual government first because I think it influences a tremendous amount of opinion.
And I think that if they wanted to use it incorrectly or use it for, you know, whatever means, they have the ability to and that it can be, you know, weaponized very easily.
I mean, as you said, everybody says Trump won the election because of Facebook, right?
So it could influence elections.
It could change, you know, based on the power.
We're talking about power being used good for good or bad, but it could be used for bad for all kinds of reasons.
You could panic people.
I mean, you can overemphasize or you can use the algorithm to show more bad news than good news or more for Facebook, they admit they use their own algorithm to show more good news about them to us.
So it's very manipulative.
The ability to manipulate is unlimited.
And there's so much data, user data out there for people now that there's predictive user data.
I'm a big fan of Palantir.
I own lots of stock for Palantir.
And I know guys on the battlefield on SEAL Team 6 that have used it to get targets right now, like weeks ago, where they tell the target, this is the guy, and they can use cameras, local cameras, use their predictive algorithm and see what historically where the person's been.
And they can say 87% chance this guy who squirter ran out is at his girlfriend's house.
Here it is.
And they hit the girlfriend's house.
Well, that's actually one of the things.
One of the issues with TikTok to that level is that their predictive analytics are supposed to be so insane that if you watch TikTok, they know where you're going and where you're going.
Within three hours of watching TikTok, they can curate an algorithm specific to you that is like, they'll know exactly what you're going to watch and how long you're going to watch.
Palantir, some of their stuff can basically take, aggregate, and then analyze what you're doing on social media.
And so if somebody like Pat mentioned, I'm very a routine guy, big routines.
You could very easily figure out anything about me because if you have access to my social media, because I post places, like, oh, he's here at this day, this day, Palantir and software alike, it can do that instantly.
So I put that at number one because I know the scope of what's possible.
United States president carries the nuclear football.
He can press the button and he has a lot of, I mean, we haven't seen a lot of the crazy stuff really being done that much.
But Trump talked about a little bit about what kind of powers he has.
And there's constitutional lawyers that have espoused, talked about what could be done as a president.
A lot can be done.
You can make a lot of really bad mistakes.
Of course, there's oversight, right?
The House and the Senate and everything and all of his advisors.
But if you're a madman and you want to do whatever you want, you could do some serious damage.
Even without Benedict Milley calling China to ask if it was okay first, sure.
I'm pretty sure he could do some stuff.
He could do, in my opinion, he could do some damage.
I put media at number three because we've seen what mainstream media can do.
No, that's right.
No question.
I mean, people just, it's amazing what people don't think.
You know, they just see it and they feel like, I mean, my mom's a great example.
My mom will watch a show and she just immediately thinks it's fact.
She'll call me and say, hey, this is what's happening.
I'm like, no, that's just one show.
You watch CNN, one article, one thing.
It doesn't mean it's the truth.
You have to do your research.
But, I mean, it convinces people.
Richest men, you have fourth.
Why richest man forth?
Because like you mentioned, you could buy, but you really can't.
So he can't go buy Facebook.
Jeff Bezos doesn't have the ability to buy out Facebook.
Mark Zuckerberg is not going to sell him Facebook.
Because Mark Zuckerberg is one of the richest people in the world.
The world.
Yeah, you can't appeal to him like that.
So, I mean, most of these guys, most of the richest stuff, you can do a lot, right?
You can get away with a lot.
You could do a lot, but you still don't have the power to, like, the president can do anything he wants.
You know, he can't, he can pardon himself.
You know, so Biden can't, I mean, sorry, Biden can, richest man, Jeff Bezos, has a limit to his power because, yeah, he can buy anything he wants to a point, but uh, he's still, you know, under the law, right?
He is, he is, he has laws that he needs to follow that are rules for everybody.
Wasn't being able to get away with a lot of stuff.
He's still like Jeffrey Epstein, can't get away with everything.
Not forever.
So I put him that at four.
And then the educational system, just because, like I said, it's something that we're talking about in the distance.
In the distant future, it's very scary for guys who have little boys and sending them to college.
I didn't go to college, but I do believe in education.
I'm a big believer in education.
But it is scary because you teach your kids all this stuff and hopefully you instill all these values.
And then you send them off to Berkeley and they ruin everything, right?
They teach them something totally different.
And there they're going to be the teachers.
They're going to be the authority figures.
And they come back for summer and they tell you you're wrong about everything.
So that's a scary thing.
Where do you send a kid for higher education that there's no risk of them coming back a different kid?
By the way, a lot of people said different things.
One guy NL gave 50 bucks and he said, number one, central bankers, number two, big banks, number three, CCP, number four, corporate elites, number five, U.S. president.
That guy gets it.
Yeah.
So he, you know, there's a guy gets cheated, though.
Those weren't the options.
Yeah, that's right.
Those weren't the options.
He didn't follow the rules.
He created his own rules there, but the future belongs to the disobedient.
There you go.
But the point is, you know, when you're talking about the topic we were on right before this, what were we talking about?
We were talking about Kamala Harris.
We were talking about the money.
We're talking about Nicki Minaj.
We're talking about Nikki Minaj and media celebrities are afraid.
Okay, media is afraid also.
But the reason why celebrities are afraid is because the most powerful organization in America is the social media, these virtual governments, they can ruin their life like this.
They can ruin their lives.
So here's a rock who, you know, his energy drink, by the way, just became number one.
It's really good.
I like it.
Zoa.
It's ahead of everybody now.
It's number one.
Okay.
Now, imagine if he doesn't have access to Twitter, Instagram, and all the stuff that he's doing.
You think his energy drink is going to be number one?
Look at Donald Trump.
I mean, Donald Trump was the most watched.
There's every news story about him because people were commenting on his tweets, whether they're ridiculous or whatever.
And so you take it away, and all of a sudden his voice is, I mean, he's made it.
It's almost as if he's non-existent today.
The only place that he exists is that small little functions that he does, and maybe Fox shows him, but you don't see him at a lot of different places.
Many people who have interviewed Trump in the last 12 months, their interview has been taken down.
Not last 12 months, last six, seven months.
Their interview has been taken down when they sit down with him.
So anyways, so going back to Nicki Minaj, yes, celebrities, you want me to come out and talk about how I feel about this?
Is it worth my $20 million contract?
Is it worth my next 50 million bucks?
Probably not.
So you're answering my question then.
So the question is, is that who is really pulling the strings?
Who is threatening them to make them afraid?
And so then you're also answering your own poll then that the mainstream media is beholden to big tech as well.
Because you're asking, why aren't they covering this?
How come they're not doing that?
Somebody in big tech is saying, we don't want this information out there.
So you're telling me that it's some sort of, is it Dorsey?
Is it, you know, or is my conspiracy theory that big tech is beholden to a foreign interest?
Well, I mean, think about this story.
Here's the story.
Since we're going there, let's go to this story.
It kind of has to do with what we're talking about.
Page two.
Google and Apple remove Navalny's app from stores as Russian elections begin.
This is a Reuters story, okay?
So Google and Apple remove Navalny's app, which Navalny is going against Putin.
Google and Apple have removed the jailed Kremlin critic Alexey Navalvny's technical voting app from their stores after Russia accused the U.S. tech firms of meddling in its internal affairs.
Russia went to the polls on Friday to elect a new parliament in a three-way vote that the ruling United Russia party is expected to win despite a rating slump after the biggest crackdown on the Kremlin's critics and years.
Allies of Navalny, President Vladimir Putin's fiercest domestic opponent, planned to use the mobile app to organize a tactical voting campaign to deal a blow to United Russia.
Russia demanded this month that Apple and Google remove the app from their store, saying a refusal to do so would be treated as meddling in its parliamentary elections.
So where you're going with this, where you're going with this, is the point.
So this is where some people would agree with you to say, well, you know, it's got to be China.
Oh, it's got to be somebody else.
It's got to be Russia.
Look at this year.
Where Russia's power to tell Google and Apple to take down and how powerful is Google on Apple?
One is a $2 trillion company.
The other one is, what?
A trillion-dollar company?
Hey, take those things down.
They say, yes, we will take you down.
So think about that.
Think about that orat.
Think about the oratory right there.
Nikki Minaj and celebrities won't speak because then the mainstream media go after them.
The mainstream media won't cover stories because then social media go after them.
Social media will do whatever Vladimir Putin says.
I'm sorry.
I disagree.
Let me tell you why.
The power is still on who?
The power is still in the hands of Google, Facebook, Apple, YouTube, all these guys.
They dictate the power.
So they dictate the power.
If they choose to keep or not keep, you're off.
But it's still the power isn't there.
They're the one there.
This almost goes back to your point, though.
You could be as powerful as Zuckerberg is.
But in here, in America, where we're a representative democracy, he knows Joe Biden's not going to do anything to him.
And he has the power over Joe Biden or he has the power over elected officials.
Hey, I'm going to run against him.
Of course he does.
Vladimir Putin's not going anywhere.
So Vladimir Putin can go, yeah, Zuckerberg, how about you have some of this radiation salad?
Trascrolly.
Trascroll me, Zuckerberg.
As Facebook stock continues to soar.
Hey, hey, Zuckerberg, don't forget.
Xi Jinping looks at Zuckerberg and don't forget to say, hey, remember Jack Ma?
He went on a little vacation, didn't he?
How do you like vacations?
So watch this.
Watch what game now we're playing.
So we just went from Nikki Minaj, why celebrities are worried.
We gave the list of five.
You guys gave you a five.
You added Xi Jinping at the top.
A couple other guys had a different list.
Then we talked about Google and Russia with Navalny.
And now this leads me to the second richest man in America, which is who?
Elon Musk.
So watch what Elon Musk does.
Elon Musk got pissed off this week.
Elon Musk is angry about a new bill that includes a $4,500 tax incentive for electric vehicles built by companies with unions.
It's an insider story.
Democrats have proposed a bill with a $4,500 tax incentive for electric vehicles built by unionized companies, unionized companies.
Musk tweeted that the bill has been engineered by lobbyists for Ford and the United Auto Workers Union.
The bill also grants a $7,500 base consumer incentive for new EVs sold in the U.S., and it would allow foreign-made cars to claim that incentives for five years.
This provision would apply to Ford cars assembled in Mexico.
And a follow-up tweet replying to a Twitter user who said President Joe Biden would be making America's made cars a priority.
Musk said, What did Musk say?
It doesn't have it here.
So Musk said something, though.
Yeah.
And tagged the president's official account.
Anyways, he took a shot at him.
David, if you can pull up the tweet so we can see.
He said something like, how is this going to help Americans?
Yeah, and also, don't forget, earlier this year, the DSA tried to put a plant in one of the Democratic Socialists of America tried to put a plant in one of Musk's Texas operating places where he went in there and tried to convince everybody to unionize.
And Elon Musk said, he was like, unionize tomorrow, and I will get rid of everybody's stock incentives.
So I don't know why you guys would do this.
We're making tons of money together.
And also, man, look, this is not just electric cars, by the way, Pat.
This is most of Joe Biden, most of the quote-unquote human infrastructure investment that's happening in this green new recovery act that they're about to drop on us.
It's all going to the unions, and it's all going to the unions specifically because what do those unions do?
They kick back where?
To the Democratic powers.
This human infrastructure is a war chest for Democrat politicians.
He's still sleeping, is what he said.
He's still sleeping.
Yeah, sleeping.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
Sleeping Joe.
But by the way, going back to it, then this validates why the richest man doesn't have the power.
I disagree completely.
So you're saying Elon Musk has power?
No, but the richest – see, the richest man has power.
But you're talking about, maybe I misunderstood what you're saying.
Elon Musk is the second richest man in the world.
So Ford has a ton of money.
Whoever's running Ford has a ton of money.
Well, as an individual, the richest billionaire in America.
The president, well, maybe you're right.
But my thing is this.
The president is all the way at the bottom of the list, and I still believe that because without those unions, Joe Biden isn't doing anything.
These people know this is bad for America, and they're doing it anyway because they're bought and paid for by these lobbies.
They're bought and paid for.
So the politician is down on that list.
My big thing is this.
And maybe you guys can answer this because you guys have better foresight.
All right.
What is the end goal of all this?
What is the 5,000-yard view?
Three, four, five years from now, these aren't stupid people that are doing these remarkably stupid things.
What are they looking to accomplish?
What is the end game here?
I don't think anybody really knows.
Nobody knows.
I mean, I think that if you're super left-leaning, you're hoping for some sort of equality where everybody is the same, but that's not true because they want to be running stuff, right?
And we don't really know who's really in charge.
I mean, you hear Joe Biden, and he's instructed to ask him the question.
So no, we don't know.
We don't really know they're going to get mad at me if I answer questions.
Yeah, yeah.
Or when they shut him off in the middle.
One of the things I thought was very interesting is the press's response to him turning around and just walking away versus Trump would sit there and just get annihilated where they're coming at him, coming at him.
He literally just be like, no more questions, walk away and they say thank you.
It's like such a different thing.
What do you think?
What is the 10,000-foot view?
What is going on worldwide?
You've got two types of people, man.
Those who are driven by freedom and those who are driven by control and force.
It's power versus force.
There's two ways to get it.
One is through choice, one is through force.
Those who are driven by leave me alone, let me go build my life and do what I want to do and make my money.
They typically piss off the people that want to control because they don't give them the time of day.
And the other person eventually goes and finds a different way to gain their power.
For example, the other day, I'm on the phone with Ford, GT, asking them for the GT, the GT, what do you call it?
The new Ford.
Yeah, whatever the GT is, the one from the movie Ford versus Ferrari.
It's like a million dollar car, but I'm on the list.
By stock and Ford, got it.
Check.
So I'm on the phone with this guy, and I'm talking to the guy.
I'm like, yeah, so, you know, I've been on this list a year and a half.
We're going back and forth.
I'm like, here's this guy, Steve, all these guys that have vouched for me and, you know, Galpin.
And he says, yeah, I can't help you.
And one-minute conversation, two-minute conversation, five-minute conversation, 10-minute conversation.
And the guy's like, I can't do nothing for you.
I can't help you.
Is there anything else I can help you with?
He's talking like this, right?
You know, I get off the phone.
You know what I said?
I said, a $20 an hour person has more power than I do.
He has the power of no.
Folks who work at DMV, who freaking get off of their job, is to be able to tell you whatever the hell they want to tell you because they don't give a shit if you write a real review for them.
You got freedom people, you got control people.
Freedom people want to be able to say, I don't like this restaurant.
I'm going to buy this place and run it better.
You don't want to do this.
I'm going to buy this.
And I think I'm going to build it into a better home, better building.
Everything to them is that.
And then the other guys who are power hungry, who don't want to do the work of a capitalist, will look and say, you know what?
He's really pissing me off.
He didn't respect me.
He didn't follow my rule.
He didn't follow my guideline.
I'm going to create new laws.
I'm going to go and make his life a living hell.
Not by competing with you, but through laws.
So this is a very interesting game, man.
So you think it's like they want like a global one-world government?
I think it's control, buddy.
I think it's a control game.
I think the mission is to control the people they hate the most, which is the job creators.
It's the capitalists.
They can't stand the job creators.
Because, look, you know my story.
Like, you just heard his story.
Here's a guy that's talking about cocaine, heroin, all this other stuff, right?
And now he's built a business, nearly half a billion dollar company that we're talking about, 250 employees and has an incredible life.
Looks like Shannon Tatum.
Sounds like Charles Brown.
There you go.
Could have been an actor.
Magic Aaron.
Magic Aaron.
Magic Singerman.
That's what the nickname is.
Moving forward.
You got to get him insured.
Magic Singerman or Magic Aaron.
I'm on it.
Yeah.
Chief of staff.
So you got guys are like, look, you know, I'm going to go build my business.
So in school, how many kids were supposed to be the guy?
Like, how many kids who were like valid, they followed the rules so well and I'm supposed to be.
And then next thing, you know, this freaking kid that's a D student, C student, B student, is like, and everybody in school is talking about that guy and it was supposed to be that guy.
You don't think that guy deep down inside for 12 years, he's the guy.
You just described all of Brooklyn.
But for four years, this guy's the guy.
So then they're like, you know what?
The way I'm going to get even by going and being a lawyer and creating laws.
The way I'm going to get even by being a politician.
It's a very weird.
How dare this plumber make more money than me?
I have four degrees.
I have four degrees.
How dare this trucker make a quarter million dollars?
Because I have my PhD.
Because in their mind, they've been sold that everything with success starts with you having a degree.
So that paper is worth so much to them.
So to be able to save that they sacrificed for eight years to follow the rules.
Now you mean to tell me those rules are a little bit broken?
I cannot buy that.
I have to protect my ego.
I'm going to go out to the business.
Dude, that is such a good point because that's literally what they're doing with the VAX.
They're like, well, they took it.
So they're allowed to, they followed the rules.
They can go to the restaurant.
I mean, you're talking about Trudeau.
Literally just said that.
The people that follow the rules get to live life.
And the people that don't, they do not get to be in our society.
And it's like, whoa, dude.
Like, who are you to even remark?
You're the prime minister.
How can you say something?
I go back to your interview with Jordan Peterson.
You remember you asked him about it?
And this was years ago before.
Which one?
Which question?
Oh, but he called him a weasel.
Oh, my God.
And this was before the world even knew who this is.
They don't want you.
Go to YouTube, type in Jordan Peterson and Justin Trudeau.
And he just won a very hotly contested re-election.
Type in Jordan and then put Justin.
Just put, yeah, and then put Justin.
There you go.
That'll come up.
How long is it?
It's a short clip, I think.
Move off of it to see how long it is?
Okay.
Yeah, this had to be three, four years ago.
Yeah, man.
Make it a little bit.
Make it bigger.
Can you press mute on that, bro?
Like, it's just, holy shit, David.
What?
David's pissed off at somebody.
Sorry, sorry, mom, but you're tempo.
Here we go.
Here we gotta pay.
Listen, can we get audio now or no?
You're not gonna give it to us?
Oh, man who capitalized with his father's mother.
Go back, go back a little bit.
Go back a little.
So I asked him what he thought.
I keep going back, keep going back.
I asked him about, I'm given speed round and I'm given names.
I said, what are your thoughts about Justin Trudeau?
This is his answer.
Click on it.
Trudeau.
Justin Trudeau.
That I just shake my head at that.
Okay.
Oh, man who capitalized without virtue on the name of his father.
Wow.
Yes, Wow is right.
If he had an ounce of character, he would have never run.
Listen.
I'm not happy about him.
He had no right.
Well, he had a right.
He's a citizen.
He can run.
He didn't earn his name.
Not impressed.
Why do you say that?
Is it specific?
Because his father was very famous.
Sure.
And so that put Trudeau at a tremendous advantage with regards to moving into a leadership position in Canada.
It's not excusable.
You should move ahead on your own merits, especially if you're daring to do something like run a country.
It's like it's too, you have a moral duty if you have the advantage of a name, you have a moral duty to supersede the accomplishments of the person who bore that name and gave it its weight before you dare capitalize on it in the public sphere.
And Trudeau did none of that.
He knows how to behave.
He knows how to act in public.
He had the upbringing for it.
Other than that, there's nothing there, not that I can see.
And if there was, he wouldn't have run the way he did.
He's not an impressive person in my estimation.
Some strong opinions.
There's strong opinions there.
When he appointed 50% of females to 50% of his cabinet, because it was, what do you say?
Well, because it's 2015.
It's like, no, quarter of your elected members of parliament were female.
If your job was to pick the most qualified people, period, regardless of their genitalia, because they're leading the country.
You pick the most qualified people.
Instead, he abdicated his responsibility to make those difficult decisions and then wallpapered it over with this casual virtue of, well, I'm going to promote women.
It's like, no, you're going to promote competent people.
You weasel.
No excuses.
You can pause it right.
I'm trying to hold myself from laughing to get in my face.
Yeah, he is not a—I think it's fair to say he doesn't like Justin Trudeau.
Well, congrats, Prime Minister, on your narrow victory.
Yeah.
Yeah, he really doesn't like him.
No, no, he really doesn't like him.
Have you seen the story of how Jordan Peterson became Jordan Peterson?
You mean like going to Quora question and all that?
When he was in school and the trans debate took place and he came out public about it, next thing you know, he got tens of millions of views and then they interviewed him and the rest is history.
Jordan Peterson became Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson, next thing you know, he's in Dallas.
Next thing you know, he's in Dallas.
Can we also give a shout out to Pat's hair, man?
Your hair is phenomenal.
You know, which is come a long way.
It's come a long way.
I looked at comparing the two.
Really good.
Do you remember the conversation about China and 5G where everybody was talking about China, 5G, 5G, 5G?
Yeah, it's bad.
China accounts for 40%.
China accounts for 40% of 6G patent applications surveys say.
So if you look at, this is not even 5G.
We're talking 6G, not 5, 6G.
Apparently, it's 10 times faster than 5G.
So China's 6G development had been expected to slow due to sanctions against Huawei imposed by the U.S. government under President Trump, but China has maintained its competitiveness by mobilizing state-run companies and universities.
Around 20,000 patents, applications were surveyed for nine core 6G technologies, including communication, quantum technology, base stations, and artificial intelligence.
China topped the list with 40.3% of all 6G patent filings, followed by U.S.'s 35%, then Japan's 9.9, then Europe 8.9, South Korea 4.2.
The upcoming generation of mobile communication technology, which is said to be more than 10 times faster than 5G, is expected to enable fully autonomous driving, high-definition virtual reality and worldwide internet connections, even in remote deserts.
Even in remote deserts.
Why would China want to have, it's interesting, they're trying to control that, obviously, because can you imagine if, you know how Elon wanted to go out there and put the what do you call it, the satellite up there to be able to offer Wi-Fi to everybody for free and it was going to start off so on all this other stuff?
Guess what's the one country that wouldn't want that to become a reality?
It's China.
China doesn't want that to become a reality.
Are you kidding me?
Free internet for me to be able to log on and see what's going on.
It's more the freedom of information.
It's more the free flow of information.
No doubt about it.
They wouldn't want that to happen.
Can you pull up 6G versus 5G?
Everything I know about 5G and 6G, I'll be honest, I know from Valutainment.
You spoke with, I believe it was a gentleman from the CIA about this.
Spalding.
Yeah, about a year, General Spalding, about a year back.
And he basically said, if you let, what is it, Highway?
How do you pronounce that?
Oh, yeah.
Hey, we're Huawei.
Huawei, yeah.
Huawei.
He's like, if you let them in, then you've just given them all your information.
All they do is just farm information.
They come into these countries and they give them free access to free fiber optics, free satellite access, the free internet, free everything.
And all they're doing is just taking all the.
Okay, go to images that you did it right.
Now go to images and then click on the one all the way right there, the telecom network progression, bottom left, second row, right there.
This tells you the difference.
Click on it again to make it bigger so everybody can see it.
Go a little higher, go a little higher, go a little higher right there.
Plus control plus to make the screen a little bit bigger.
And you can say no thanks to that.
Okay.
What is a TV?
All right, so here we go.
1G per second?
Introduction year was 1979.
Terabyte?
Watch this.
It downloads a movie in six days.
1G.
2G, 91, one movie in 2.5 hours.
3G, one movie in two minutes.
4G, one movie in 20 seconds.
5G, one movie in three movies in one second.
6G is 300 movies in one second.
This right here?
This right here?
3G?
That was a game breaker for Napster, bro.
When you can download 100 songs on LimeWire and Napster until you gave yourself 15 viruses on your computer, that was a game changer.
I don't even think that's accurate, though.
3G, I never got a movie in two minutes.
One download a movie in two minutes.
Depends on what type of movie.
It says three gigabytes.
There's some movies on some sites that begin with X that, you know, you only need three, four minutes of a movie, bro.
Three gigs.
Three gigs, right now in 5G, it won't take you one second.
Shout out to the great Miss Benz for her many great performances on the movies that I would download.
Well, we can tell what you did, you know.
How do you think I got these forearms, Aaron?
I can tell you it.
At least don't reveal it to everybody.
Keep your secrets to yourself.
By the way, you know what would be very weird if they mandated masks and porn.
It'd be very that's when you know we're gonna lose the country if that happens.
I'm sure masks and unmasked porn.
Yeah, I mean for people that want to keep it appropriate.
You have to, man.
So it's got to be safe.
We've got to be safe.
Wasn't there some guidance about like doing it doggy style with the void.
I think there was something.
California.
I have an unbelievable story about it.
I can't tell it on this podcast because I think we'll get kicked off.
But I have an unbelievable story about that.
Wait, did you bring a mask?
I told him the story.
I was dating this girl.
She was a ballerina in Brooklyn.
And they put out a de Blasio's health department put out a list of do's and don'ts.
And she, beautiful girl, but hyper, hyper, hyper crazy with this stuff.
And she was going to follow these do's or don'ts.
And I'm not going to get it.
Keep it to yourself.
Keep it to yourself.
You can tell us afterwards.
By the way, Manny Pacquiao running for president.
Is it likely that he could win?
Manny Pacquiao running for president.
Can he win?
What?
What?
You're going to think like next thing you're going to tell me like a reality star could be president of the United States or something.
It's crazy.
He's running for president 2022.
I'm a fighter and I will always be a fighter inside and outside the ring.
We need government to serve our people with integrity, compassion, and transparency.
The current president, Rodrigo Du Tortoise, has led a brutal campaign against illegal drugs and said last week he would rather die first before facing an international tribunal tribunal the day after the International Criminal Court announced it would investigate allegations of crimes against humanity linked to the crackdown that has left thousands dead.
Can you imagine?
Pacquiao becomes a president.
I mean, he's got to be the most popular guy there.
He's been a constant police.
He's been a politician.
He's been a congressman there for a long time.
I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I don't think he's going to be the only fighter that's president of a country.
Apparently, I believe it's Vladimir Klitschko, one of the Klitschko brothers is being positioned for a run at the Ukraine as well.
So, hey, look, man.
I don't know enough about Filipino politics to comment on it, but he's of the same thing.
I was waiting to get your level of expectations of politics.
I'm sorry.
I used to know Tagalog, but I just, yeah.
But I would say this, though, like one of the things about the future, right, is it goes all the way back to what you said before, brand first, right?
Like, brand first.
Manny Pacquiao's brand is incredibly strong.
He's known as a person of integrity.
He's known as somebody that cares about the community.
And Pat, you talk about a synergist, right?
Like, he's not a catalyst.
He's not somebody that's going to turn one side against the other, as far as I know.
So, you know, maybe this is the future.
We're laughing about it now, but maybe the future is popular people who care about their own brand.
So they're not going to do something crazy and out of character that can bring the two powerful sides together.
Maybe instead of fighting this and looking at, you know, Pat talking about how Jake Paul is going to be president and AOC is going to be president, Logan, I'm sorry.
We've got to embrace the reality of the situation being that, hey, look, man, this is the quote-unquote new normal.
And maybe there's a good thing that can come out of this.
Maybe there's synergy to be had by people that are universally liked being in positions of power.
I think, you know, it's been proven since Reagan, right?
I mean, you've got a guy like Reagan who goes from being a SAG president to being the spokesperson for GE, and they were paying him $7.50 to a million a year to go around talking about how great GE is to him doing Hollywood and then becomes a governor, you know, and then becomes president.
Likeability.
Well, I don't know, man, because likability isn't really a useful trait in a leader, right?
Like, you have to be disagreeable.
I think it's a useful trait to be likable.
I mean, you know, George Bush Jr., everybody said he wants to have a beer.
Who do you want to have a beer with?
George Bush, you know?
Yeah, I can see why people vote for likable people, you know, but I just want to say, being in a position of leadership.
You guys both run companies.
Some companies, some can't.
You can't be.
Trust you, want to be in business with you, right?
People got to like you.
Yeah, people follow you.
Think about it this way.
What's more important?
Like or trust?
Which comes first?
Like or trust?
I got to like you to trust you.
There you go.
So before, you could be the most trusting human being in the world, but no one likes you because your first impression sucks.
I'm sorry, we're never going to find that the juice you offer, which is trust.
Totally.
Yeah.
So likability is extremely important business.
This is one of my problems with Robert Greene.
Really, really smart guy, and I love his work.
But like 48 Rules of Power, there should have been a caveat at the beginning that's like, unless you know how to be charismatic, this is just 48 ways to be a jerk.
Like unless you can be charismatic.
Did you like the book or no?
Why don't you like the book?
Because it's too dark.
It's like how to achieve in a very negative way, right?
You don't have to follow those rules.
You don't have to do it that way.
It's kind of like a manipulative guide to manipulation and winning through power.
And I just didn't like it.
I mean, I read it, and I thought some of it was true for sure.
But I don't think that I certainly wouldn't give my son Asher that book and be like, read this.
This is the rules to like the rules to life, like Jordan.
Read this as the rules to power.
I wouldn't because I wouldn't want him to live his life that way.
You know what his reason it was to write the book?
He said he wrote it for you to know how those people run to go against them.
Not necessarily for you to be like that, but for...
But it was kind of a guide.
I agree with you.
He wrote it out, but he said that.
But I agree with you.
Have you read his other books?
He wrote a book, Art of Seduction.
I don't know if you've read it.
It's a ridiculous book.
It's an incredible book, Art of Seduction.
Then you got 33 Strategies of War.
It's my favorite out of all of them.
33 Strategies of War.
Law number four is insane.
You got a big shout out from Andy Young about the power About what was it, Paranoid?
Only the Paranoid Survived.
He said it was.
Andy Grove?
Yeah, he said it was the best book he ever read.
It's a ridiculous book.
Andy Grove is a legend for what he did.
People swear by Andy Grove.
Andy Grove is a one-of-a-kind leader on what he did.
By the way, did you hear what Barr warned Trump of?
That he was going to lose the elections.
You guys hear the story on Insider?
Let me read it to you.
Barr warned Trump that he would lose the election because of suburban voters just think you're an effing asshole, book says to Trump.
Okay.
Attorney General Barr took a blunt approach with President Trump in April 2020 while discussing his reelection chances.
The crux of the problem Barr told Trump was that most suburban Republican voters just think you're an effing asshole.
According to the new book, Bob Woodward.
By the way, Bob Woodward's got to sell like 20 million copies of this book.
Every other day, something like this comes out of his book.
The Attorney General went on to tell the president that he had become a Beltway captive and needed to appeal to the broader group of voters than just his diehard base.
Barr reportedly told Trump that suburban Republican voters don't give a shit about Trump's vendetta against his perceived foes.
Do you agree?
I think approaching him that way makes sense.
I think that as long as he's solution-oriented, you know, he's not just coming in and saying everybody thinks you're an asshole.
Nobody's going to like that.
But if he came in with a solution and a suggestion, I think being blunt with Trump, if you have his respect, which obviously William Barr at the time did, probably, I think it makes sense to come at him like that versus, you know, kind of pandering to him or whatever.
I don't know if that would work.
How do you think Trump reacted when he said that?
Do you think he's kind of like, I don't think so, I disagree.
Or do you think like, you think so?
Tell me why.
Like, what do you think his response was?
Or did he say, hang on, I'm sending a tweet?
He said, get the fuck out of my office.
I'd say Trump would probably say, okay, you know, Bill, Bill, what election did you ever win?
I can see whatever.
What election did you ever, you don't know what you're talking about?
And that's also, with all due respect to Bill Barr, who I liked, it's full of shit.
That's not why he lost.
He didn't lose his vermin.
He lost because he let he did all this bluster.
All right.
He talking, you know, talk is cheap is why he lost.
First of all, if he even lost, but not to go there, but the talk is cheap is why he lost because Fauci is still there.
He should have got rid of Fauci.
He had Fauci.
Fauci was full of it.
He should have got rid of him.
Sexiest man alive.
Sexiest man alive.
Frickin' incredible six spec.
After all of this big talk and bluster, after all this, you know, late-night tweets about do one thing and we'll F you up, he lets an army of Starbuck baristas completely take the country by force.
Every city, they plant their flag 60 feet wide in front of every Capitol building in America.
If you're going to be a law and order guy and then you lose law and order, well, they called this bluff.
He was a populist.
He waited for the polls to tell him what to do and then he reacted.
So they were able to make him do whatever they wanted every time.
He led from behind.
That's why he lost.
There's two reasons.
Really, the one reason he definitely lost is Corona 19, right?
The coronavirus is why he lost.
If you look at the polls before, I always like the betting polls because the betting polls, you know, these are guys putting money on the line.
He was 99% favorite, 99 to 1 favorite before coronavirus in January.
Coronavirus happened, we see what happened.
He's a 91% favorite with three hours to go.
Well, yeah, I agree.
But that shows you that he lost because of the coronavirus.
If the coronavirus hadn't happened, he would still be president.
I think everybody agrees on that.
No, no, no, no.
Left, right middle, everybody agrees.
He would have won.
But then the other thing, you know, the thing that, you know, is he is the reason why people liked him initially is because he's unfiltered, right?
He says what he thinks what he means.
He means what he says.
And he has very little filter.
And I think that eventually that may have helped him get elected, but it also helped people really dislike him.
Where, you know, people like my mom again would say he's a bully.
He's a mean guy.
He's a bad man, right?
And too many people started feeling that way because he would tweet like that constantly.
Universally known Orange Man is bad.
Yeah, Orange Man is bad, right?
I think if he would have done way less of that and just let his actions do more of the speaking, I think that would have helped.
But he did run into the coronavirus, and I don't know how you could come out of that positively.
I mean, he was getting crap for shutting down the planes to China, and they were all saying he's a xenophobe and all this stuff.
So people are like, well, he could have shut it down earlier.
Well, then what would have happened?
He would have been more of a xenophobe.
If he would have, immediately, like, let's say two weeks before he shut down, he shut down all air travel into America.
People would think he was crazy.
They want to get rid of him.
Well, this is the thing, though.
Like, that's exactly what you're saying.
They kept going back and forth on, well, people are going to think.
Well, people are going to think.
What?
What?
Were you going to get it right, Donald?
Was the press going to be like, you know what, Donald?
You got this one right.
You're not a racist.
Absolutely.
You nailed it.
So, like, that right there is my reasoning for why he lost.
He lost because he kept trying to kowtow to the people that we're never going to vote for him in the first place.
Yeah.
As soon as they tore down the first statue, he should have been like, all right, bet.
Rico.
Rico, let's go.
You got federal case.
Yeah.
Any one of you guys destroys a single thing on federal ground, your ass is mine.
And then any organization you were part of, conspiracy.
Rico, you guys want to play this game?
Okay.
We'll round you up.
And I'm a libertarian saying that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because the non-aggression principle doesn't, it's not pacifism, dude.
All right.
If people are coming in to be intentionally, you know, it's sedition to me.
It was treasonous.
It was, it was sedition.
And the business owners in those communities needed to be protected.
And if those politicians in those communities weren't going to protect these people, somebody had to.
And that's what he said he was going to do.
And he didn't do it.
So in many ways, I feel like he deserved to lose.
Whether you can question the legitimacy of it or not, he deserved to lose because all that tough talk, he didn't follow through.
He didn't get the job done.
What part are you saying?
With the riots and all this stuff?
Absolutely.
Regulation.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
The problem is there's no right answer to that, right?
If he would have done that, he would have probably lost just as bad.
I disagree completely.
He would have won if he came in and I disagree completely.
I also think that he let his opponents have too much free reign.
As soon as I knew that this thing was done, as soon as the Supreme Court in Pennsylvania changed the rules so that votes could be counted like two weeks after the election, and that people that didn't live in the state, their votes would still be counted.
I was like, okay, they're legally rigging this.
Legally.
So then what was the pushback?
Can you do me a favor and pull up the story between Rogan and what's his name?
What's the Rogan?
Howard Stern story, if you can pull that up.
Interesting, interesting.
Somebody told me something very interesting yesterday.
I'm not saying this, you know, folks at YouTube.
I'm just telling you, I looked at the statistic.
I thought it was interesting.
So Howard Stern says we have no time for idiots in this country anymore.
Howard Stern defends Joe Rogan's criticism, defends those criticizing Joe Rogan.
So Howard Stern remains unimpressed with Joe Rogan, specifically with his preferred treatment for COVID-19.
Well, maybe incensed would be a better word to use.
That's Stern very openly and heatedly criticized the podcast during the serious XM radio show criticism of which he continues to stand by.
That his audio is on Rogan began to speak on ivermectin, George Sumer's going to CNN.
Okay, keep going lower.
They keep saying I'm taking horse dewormer.
I literally got it from a doctor.
It's an American company, said Rogan.
They won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for using human beings and CNN as saying I'm taking horse dewarma.
They must be, it's a lie.
And then this leads to, in fact, Stern deemed those who won't get vaccinated as shitheads.
Needless to say, Yahoo Nerdling Jones, Kamala Stern got himself some criticism.
All I said was everyone should get the vaccine.
It should be mandatory.
This brought down a slew of publicity like I haven't even seen ever before.
It's mind-blowing.
We're trapped in a country with imbeciles.
He continued.
Guess what?
When we get COVID, we don't end up in hospitals.
So we don't overload hospitals.
So what did I say?
We have no time for idiots in our country anymore.
Rogan has yet to address Stern's comments.
By the way, it's a couple things here.
One, you know, Howard Stern's probably not too happy that Rogan's kicking ass.
Okay, that's number one.
Let's just face it.
Stern used to say that podcasts aren't radio.
They're bullshit.
You know, the other day I watched Michael Schumacher's documentary.
I don't know if you guys seen Michael Schumacher's documentary.
If you haven't seen it, that's a must-watch.
I'm a big Senna fan.
If you haven't watched Schumacher's, I've watched Senna's documentary a hundred times.
Watch Schumacher's deal.
That's an hour and 54 minutes.
And he says some very interesting things.
One of the things he said, he said, he said, I don't like to brag about my things because you'll call me cocky, but also don't talk about my weaknesses because it's your job to find my weaknesses, not mine.
Schumacher says that, which is powerful to say that.
But then there's a part of it when Schumacher's coming up and he passes up Senna, where Senna gets a little bit uncomfortable about it.
You know, where there's a, you know, Schumacher takes the cut, you know, cuts him off, and Senna loses his mind, goes to Schumacher afterwards with his hand on his shoulder.
You don't do something like this, and Schumacher loses his mind saying, I'm just doing what you did to everybody.
This is what you used to do.
Play to win the game.
You told people play to win the game.
I'm doing that.
I'm doing what you showed us to do, right?
I think there's a part of it Stern that's not happy with the fact that Rogan's probably coming up and taking his lunch.
And quite frankly, Rogan's more attractive and more versatile than Howard Stern is.
I don't know what Howard Stern does for fun.
I don't know if he goes shooting, you know, hunting, QFC, all this other stuff.
People probably link Rogan to more of a man's man, and Howard Stern is in a different way.
He's more diverse.
You know, he has something to say on everything.
Whereas, you know, Howard Stern was a shock shock, you know, and he's turned into whatever he is now.
So I used to do a couple shows with Jackie, the joke man, Martin, who was with Howard Stern.
And there was a dude who wanted to do this investment, and I was like, I don't know.
And we were in Times Square.
This is anecdotal.
He'll probably say I'm lying.
It's 100% true.
We're in Times Square.
People were going by.
I wanted to show them the power of social media and digital media and this and that.
People were going by.
I would just grab him real quick.
Hey, can I ask you a question?
Like, what's up?
I'm like, do you know who Howard Stern is?
And guys that were over 40 would be like, well, this is a stupid question.
Of course I know who Howard Stern is.
I was like, oh, my bad, my bad.
Then I'd grab somebody that was like 25 or younger and be like, hey man, you know who Howard Stern is?
They were like, nah, I don't know.
Who's Howard Stern?
Like, they would have no idea.
If you went around this office and we work in media and everybody here is on the news all day, anybody under 30 years old, I would bet one in 10 would know who Howard Stern is, who know what he does, could name one thing that he's famous for.
Meanwhile, how many people in that office under 30 know who Joan Rogan is?
Everybody.
So come on.
Yeah, do me a favor.
Pull up cases by countries.
Put COVID cases by country.
This will be the last topic and we'll wrap up.
Tapping COVID cases by country.
COVID cases by country.
Yeah, there you go.
Click on that.
The first one will come up.
No, not that one.
Is that the main website to look at?
One of those two is the one.
See if it's that one.
Okay, right there.
That's the one.
So far, 231 million cases worldwide.
4.73.
View by country.
Go view by country right there in the green at the top, right underneath the 231 million, under the 231 million.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Go a little higher right there, buddy.
You got it.
Okay.
So U.S. has 43 million total cases.
India's got what?
33 million cases.
Total death.
Can you go by percentage of death?
Do they do that here or no?
Percentage of death.
You mean of the population?
Yeah.
So if you look at 700 divided by 43 million, let me do some math here.
If you can go back.
700,000 by 333 million.
Yeah, so 700,000 by 33 million.
But if you go, I'm more curious about how many got it and how many recovered, not necessarily the population.
So go back up.
446.
No, where you are right now is fine.
Let me check here.
All right, let's do 446 as a total death in India divided by 33,592, okay?
Because there's a website that says India has the lowest, the 160th lowest death percentage on COVID.
Yeah, because it has a billion point four people.
So you know from the people that get it versus dying in India, it's not only one percent zero one percent.
Is there a country that's conspicuously missing from this list by any chance?
Yeah, China's not on this list.
North Korea.
135.
135 on 7 million.
Yeah.
So there's studies on why.
Reuters did a study, by the way.
Reuters did a study, the fact that India made it public that all of India's populace can take ivermectin to fight COVID.
I don't know if you looked at this or not.
That's what India said.
It's like on Reuters.
If you type that up, and they're saying that's one of the reasons, and there's a big battle going up to say that's not the reason why they're doing well.
Anyways, I don't know.
That's just a conversation that came up last night.
I wanted to verify that on the podcast here.
Final thoughts before we wrap up?
This is what science was for the longest time.
I mean, one of the things that scares me.
I want to find the stats, by the way, but it's okay.
Keep going.
Yeah, one of the things that scares me more than anything else is this idea that they say the science is settled.
Like the science was never settled.
Can you imagine if, you know, if somebody like Einstein didn't do the theory of relativity, he goes like, well, you know, the science is settled.
I don't know what to tell you.
Like, hey, you know, the earth's flat, guys.
Science is settled.
I don't know.
There's no reason for us to go forward with this stuff.
My 79-year-old dad got COVID and pneumonia simultaneously.
And he was down for two or three weeks.
He had the vaccine earlier this year.
If he didn't have it, I don't know if he'd be around or not.
Joe and I both agree on that.
I think there is a good amount of debate in that topic.
I've said it before.
I'll say it again.
I'm not anti-vax, man.
I'm vaccinated in so many ways.
I'm not anti-science in any way whatsoever, man.
This could be the greatest medical miracle of all time.
I think Brett Weinstein's right, you know, not to give a free plug, but talking about the evolutionary science of this, rolling it out while this thing is still active, it's going to have mutations.
That's why we keep needing different boosters.
So there's a problem involved with rushing this stuff out.
The idea that they say that there's no issues with anything, but it's only been nine months old is crazy.
But if I can, Pat, give a free plug.
I'm going to be in Nashville this weekend doing shows at Zany's.
So if anybody's in Nashville, wants to check out a comment.
I'm going to be in Nashville, too.
Yeah.
You're going to be in Nashville, man.
What have you got Sunday?
You should come out to a show on.
At Zany's with Caroline McCarthy.
How do they find the show?
Just come on my Instagram on GerardDGAF at Gerard DGAF.
And they can find the link.
Give it to me again.
At Gerard.
Yep.
D-G-A-F.
D-G-A-F.
Okay, I put that there.
If you look at it, go to his Instagram.
If you're in Nashville, go watch Gerard this Sunday and give him some love.
With that being said, Aaron, thank you for coming out.
This was great.
Really enjoyed it.
Really had a good time.
That's what you call an awkward hug, but it's all good.
