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Today we have with us Adam Sausnick and we have Danielle DeMartino Booth.
And we got a lot to cover.
You know, it's been a crazy last 48 hours.
We went to sleep November 3rd thinking Trump's winning.
You woke up, everything flipped, and now Biden's got to lead.
You said 85% chance that he's winning the numbers that are coming to us from Vegas.
So Danielle, why don't you tell us, what are you thinking right now?
What's what's happened last 48 hours?
Well, hey, you went to sleep Tuesday night.
I feel like I've been up since Friday night.
You did not sleep Tuesday night.
Well, I've slept for a few hours, but very difficult because they were calling into the night.
And the Wisconsin call was kind of the next big.
But the moment was Arizona.
That was the absolute moment.
You know, they've interviewed the guy at Fox News who made the call.
There's stories out on the wires that give a vast description of what the reaction was like in the White House yesterday, the phone calls being made to the governor of Arizona, just complete and total shock because he took Maricopa County in 2016, where Phoenix is, and because that's where the vast majority of the votes have yet to be counted.
So it's that Arizona that is really dividing the media right now that is the focus.
That being said, if you look again at Vegas odds, and those obviously the polls are garbage.
So if you look at Vegas odds, you know, you've got 71% going for Arizona, even as we continue to tally in more votes.
More importantly, you've got Pennsylvania at 80%.
You've got Georgia at 80%.
What do you mean 80% Pennsylvania?
Total counted, you're saying?
Just total counted, got it.
No, This is Vegas probability of winning.
Got it.
Of winning.
80% is for who in Georgia?
And in Georgia, it is at 60%.
Yep, 60% in Georgia.
Biden, you're saying Biden is up in Georgia.
Biden is at 60% in Georgia.
Pennsylvania, probability-wise, Vegas.
And yep.
So Georgia, he's got a 60% chance of winning.
Pennsylvania, he's got an 85% chance of winning.
Arizona, he's got a 71% chance of winning.
They think Nevada is a shoe-in.
So theoretically, you know, by the time we get to the first announcement, we were expecting an announcement out of Nevada last night that those six electoral votes will get him over the 270 line, at least as far as Fox News and the Associated Press are concerned.
So that is the first one that we're waiting for this morning, unless we get Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is the only one that's a little bit iffier because there is the potential to take Pennsylvania because of a recent ruling to the Supreme Court.
Same situation does not apply in the other states.
Pat, I mean, let's talk about where we've been for the last 24 or so hours.
We did an amazing podcast, a marathon podcast.
Seven hours strong.
Pat went to the bathroom zero times.
I'm more proud of that than anything.
I went probably 12, 15 times.
You might want to visit a, you know, I don't want to not go first.
That was our friend Tom Zenner went first.
I was holding it up.
He's got to start.
We went seven hours strong, right?
Matt Sapolla was here.
Respect to Matt.
Ray Crocker was here.
Obviously, Tom, our friend Jara, we had a surprise guest.
Tom Ellsworth showed up.
He's geeking out on some giggity giggities and numbers and stuff.
And we had a marathon.
And what happened?
We all did a recap of the night.
And we thought, going, you know, we left here at 2, 3 in the morning.
We thought, all right, Trump's going to be the guy again, right?
And we all kind of gave our sayings.
I even said, obviously, it's been unashamedly, I'm not a Trump fan.
I even said, look, if he wins again, I hope that he can bring this country together.
I actually went to bed that night saying, all right, like, what am I thankful for?
If Trump's the president, all good, but like, I control my own destiny.
What am I thankful for?
Got my health.
I got my wealth.
I got my friends.
I got my family.
I got success.
Let me be thankful.
And I woke up yesterday morning, as we all did, 24 hours ago or so.
And I was like, hold on, what?
Biden's up now?
It flipped so crazily.
Adam, I mean, you remember in 2016, it was the Florida moment.
And once we saw, I mean, it was the New York Times calling Florida four years ago.
But once we saw Florida, once we saw Florida go to Trump, it's like, okay, I've seen this movie before.
I know what the ending is.
And it was that Florida element that there had been such each hardest race.
And then Florida was called earlier than we had expected.
And again, it's not just the Cuban expat community, but as we'd spoken of after one of the debates, there are a lot of Venezuelans there as well.
You know, you mentioned the word socialist, and they go easy.
They go crazy.
So, you know, that was, you know, that was maybe to be expected.
I watched him.
They called Texas after Florida.
Right.
For heaven's sake.
Pat, give us your recap.
We left here 2, 3 in the morning.
That was Tuesday night.
We're now Thursday.
We're 48 hours later or so.
Give us your recap.
Where are you at?
Emotionally, mentally?
You're exhausted.
I mean, you have to realize everything here is when you run a business, you got a family, you're going through a lot of different positions, you look at it from a different perspective.
But the one part you have to realize is you have to give credit to Democrats.
You just have to give credit to Democrats.
And what I mean by Democrats is the fact that these guys, even though many of them cannot stand each other, I had a guy yesterday who was a former Antifa guy.
At 2011, 2012, he was part of Antifa and he left.
He was a far-left liberal and then all of a sudden he changes.
Young guy.
He's now 27 years old.
So 2012, he was what?
19 years old 18 years old and he's talking about kid he's a kid but But at the same time, he's talking about the systems, how they recruited.
I said, so tell me about Antifa.
He says, look, I said, who's Antifa's hero?
Okay.
Chegvera.
Che Guevara.
Che Guevara.
I said, who else is their hero today?
I said, do they look, who's their enemy?
And I'm waiting when I say enemy for him to say what?
Trump.
He says, no, it's not Trump.
I said, who is the enemy?
He says, everything about the American idea is their enemy.
Their enemy is Christopher Columbus.
What?
I said, what do you mean, Christopher Columbus, their enemy?
He says, is what America was founded on.
I said, so they like AOC.
He says they hate AOC.
I said, I'm confused here.
So what?
I said, so what do you mean the AOC?
He says the day AOC came out with a $103 trillion package for the climate change, they said this is a capitalistic, what do you call it, a capitalistic plan that she's, so even.
Are they anarchists?
What are they?
They are there fully.
They want to change everything about America, take it back to what it was pre-Christopher Columbus to make America great again to what that was.
So what am I saying with this part?
And I said, tell me about BLM.
Tell me about this.
So we went through all this other stuff and what their conversations was like.
This kid who was a former Antifa left on November 3rd, you know what he did in DC?
He dressed up like Antifa, put the black mask on, went with them to see what they're saying and what they're talking.
The Antifa guys thought he was one of them just to kind of see what's going on, right?
He's like, dude, I was scared.
I don't know what's going on.
I just kind of got myself out there to see what the language is.
It's like an undercover agent.
Yeah, exactly.
But the point of that.
What do you say he saw?
The point I'm trying to make to you is the following.
The point is, oh, what he did see is in D.C., he said it's crazy because the media was supporting Antifa.
The Antifa guys would say, hey, why are you recording this?
Why are you recording this?
Don't record.
Oh, we're so sorry.
We'll go this angle.
So the journalists of a lot of these big publications, they were controlling the influence to not show the bad things they were doing.
Anyways, the point I'm trying to make to you is: you go to sleep, you wake up in the morning and you see what's going on.
You say, okay, Michigan.
Michigan was done.
I mean, you sat there and said 80%.
I mean, this thing is 64%, 65%.
You're thinking it's over with, and then you wake up, things flip.
Democrats United.
Whether it's AOC's camp, the four horsemen, you know who I'm talking about, the squad.
Whether it's them, whether it's Sanders, whether it's the Clintons, whether it's the Obamas, whether it's the Lincoln Project, there was no infighting in the United States.
They just said, listen, guys, we can't stand each other sometimes.
We don't like each other.
Screw you, the hell with you.
But guess what?
The enemy of the state is who?
Trump.
We got to do whatever we can to put him out.
Now, the numbers you got to see, which is pretty impressive, is the following.
In 2000, when McCain ran, when McCain ran, he got 4% of the Latino vote.
When McCain ran, he run four.
He got 4%.
That's all he got.
That's all he got.
By the way, Romney got 6%.
Okay.
Black vote.
McCain got 4% of the black vote.
Romney got 6% of the black vote.
Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016.
You know what percent?
What did he get this time?
12% of the black vote.
He got more of the black vote than Romney and McCain combined.
So the conversation about racism is gone.
America doesn't believe that.
Latino votes.
I don't know about all that, but.
No, no.
No, that's out.
I mean, the people that want to propaganda that part, they can say that, but that conversation is out, okay?
Which conversation?
He's a racist, he's this, he's that.
That's out because that's increasingly.
And it's becoming more out.
I think there's still a lot of people that think he's a race.
Is McCain racist?
I don't think any of them are quarterbacks.
Do you think McCain is racist?
I would not say that.
Okay, he got three times more black votes than McCain did.
Think about that.
This is the whole Blexit black space.
But he got three times more black vote than McCain got, twice as much as Romney.
Even as bolusterous as Trump is.
And they're both like him.
They're both part of the Lincoln project.
McCain and Romney can't.
Send him McCain.
Yes.
Well, I mean, you just got to put it.
McCain camp.
Then you look at the Latino.
And McCain, when he ran, he got 31%.
So he had the Latino vote because he's Arizona.
Then he had Romney got 27% of the Latino vote.
Then Trump got 28 in 2016.
Then Trump got 32% this time around.
32%.
That's not good for long-term Democrats because if it's at 32% and climbing, that means Latinos are starting to say, listen, man.
And by the way, it's what she said earlier, Venezuela, Cuba.
A lot of these folks are like, look, we are not dealing with socialism.
So the more socialism creates momentum, the more call in from my buddy in Miami who called in and he was like, my uncle died on a raft for Nelson.
He's like, oh, Adam, I know you're from Sharp.
Oh, what's up, Nelson?
Shout out to him.
They've got their six degrees of separation.
And you lived in Caracas.
That's right.
I like how you raka-rakas.
That's Venezuela.
I mean, that's like legit.
So you're saying what happened?
Look, I tell you, I respect the opponent that out-strategizes you.
In life, I believe in four things.
Outwork, out-improve, out-strategize, out-last.
Trump outworked.
Okay, let's just face it.
Trump outworked.
There's no question he outworked.
There's no question he outlasted.
He lasted a longer time, okay?
Where he's going the last day, five rallies, all the stuff that he's doing.
They did not out-strategize.
They did not out-strategize.
The Democrats out-strategized.
It's that simple.
They're united.
They're a strategy.
By the way, you know what's crazy?
So think about it this way.
In sales, you know how you're selling something and you make the offer of what you're going to ask later on in the presentation, but you ask it early.
And it's simple.
It's something like, look, John, is it fair to look?
I get paid based on commission and I get paid based on taking care of you.
If I show you, you know, if I'm able to take care of you, is it fair to say, you know, help me out with referrals?
You say what?
Yes.
If I say that in step two of my presentation, I'm preparing myself on step number nine.
I've already prepped you.
Right.
You know why I'm here.
I'm asking you.
I'm going to give you some evidence and then go for the closing here.
Can you tell me when the Democrats started saying vote?
They've been saying it for six plus months.
When have the Republicans, how long have Republicans been saying it?
Not as long as the Democrats.
Exactly.
So now watch this.
What organization did the Democrats win over to keep saying vote, vote, vote?
Tell me what organizations did the Democrats win over.
Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the NBA.
Yeah, so you got the NBA.
What else do you have?
I'm thinking the Lincoln Project.
What else do you have?
I mean, the entire Democratic Hollywood.
Well, Hollywood, obviously.
I'm going to put it on this side because it doesn't get credit.
Hollywood, what else do you have?
Social media.
What else do you have?
I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
What do you got?
So you got sports, you got Hollywood, you got social, you got the rock, you got all these guys.
So they came together and, quite frankly, they started selling this six months ago.
And Republicans started two months ago.
I've been saying it in 2018 when the House flipped.
We have to vote.
We have to vote for it.
Shit out strategy-wise, man.
You just got to give it up to their streets.
But you have to say that there was a concerted effort on the part of the Republican Party that was organized in Texas, that was organized in Florida, that was organized in Latin strongholds that did have a successful get out the vote campaign.
Can you tell me a big Democrat that didn't support the Democrats?
A big Democrat that no, no.
Okay, can you name it?
Give me a big name.
Not a big name, but there was a state legislator in Atlanta.
I'm sorry, in Georgia that came out and spoke to the Prime Minister.
You don't even know the name.
Can you tell me a big Republican that didn't support the Republican?
A lot of them.
Yes, Sadie McCain, John Kasich.
Colin Powell.
Romney said, I didn't nominate Trump.
To get the governor of the state of New Hampshire, who's a Republican, came out and said, I have just voted for Biden.
That's right.
The entire Lincoln project.
The point I'm trying to make.
And by the way, here's the difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Who has a bigger ego?
Republicans or Democrats?
Republicans.
Who has bigger egos?
I think Republicans.
Who has more of the mindset of, I don't need you, I can do this on my own?
Republicans.
Republicans.
So the problem is like, dude, I don't need you.
You know, I got you.
I can, you know, whatever.
They're so competitive with each other because their spirit is competition.
Right.
Like, how much time did, how many times did Trump call out fellow loser Republican, loser Mitt Romney?
It doesn't happen in the Democratic Party.
They're far more competitive, which hurts them sometimes.
Democrats are very united.
Their enemy is one enemy.
Right.
So look at what was going on behind the scenes.
So Trump, after John McCain died, Trump continued to criticize him, knowing that it was hurting him, knowing that it was hurting him.
His advisors are saying, rest in peace, be quiet.
And on top of that, he refused to travel to Arizona.
He didn't want to be in an overnight situation where he had to sleep overnight somewhere else.
So his campaign advisors are saying, you are blazing a trail across this country.
We've never seen such energy.
You got to physically go to Arizona.
No, I don't want, I don't like that.
He never went to Arizona, is what you're saying.
And on top of it.
Did you see his rally in Arizona, though?
The 96-mile-long Trump rally.
Oh, my God.
I got it.
I got it.
But he didn't physically come to Arizona and Arizona earlier.
And Arizona was one of the hardest hit states when it came to coronavirus fatalities.
It's going to be blue.
Because of the demographics, because it's an older state.
So he had three things going against him in the state that he didn't correct for by going there.
When's the last time a Democrat won Arizona?
Do we know that?
Oh, gosh.
You can pull it up, Kai, because it's based on that list.
When you look at states, you know, that whole thing we look at.
And also, Kai, also, when's the last time a Democrat won Georgia?
Jimmy Carter?
Gosh, that's probably 76.
That's probably true.
I mean, just think about these states that Biden is potentially going to win.
And if he doesn't win for whatever reason, razor-thin margins.
He has flipped states that have traditionally voted Republican.
96 was Arizona.
96 is Arizona.
96.
Clinton.
And that's because of, well, Rossborough wasn't in that one.
And what about Georgia, Kai?
I'm living there in the middle.
Kai on the ones and twos.
Shout out to our Norwegian nightmare over there, Kai, doing our research.
There's nothing nightmare about Norwegian.
The good kind of nightmare.
You don't want him in your dreams.
92 Georgia.
So Clinton.
It's the Rossboro story.
Yeah, the Rossport started.
Got it.
Plus, he was a boy from the South.
So 160 million votes.
But there is a movement that has occurred in Fulton County.
I mean, you have to.
Atlanta.
Atlanta.
Yeah.
And you keep saying Maricopa County.
What city is that?
Is that Tucson?
Is that Phoenix?
Phoenix.
Interesting.
And he won, Trump won Phoenix handily.
Handily.
In 2016.
Right.
Here's a point.
It's very interesting.
Here's a point that I would love to get your guys' perspective on this.
Pick any major city in America.
Any major city in America, they voted blue.
You go to the reddest state in America.
Go to Oklahoma.
Yeah.
Go to West Virginia.
Go to Kansas.
Go to Nebraska.
Pick any major city in those states.
They voted Democrat.
And then so you look at any state, pick a state, go on a map.
Louisiana, they vote red.
Alabama, they vote red.
Mississippi, they vote red.
Oklahoma, they vote red.
The list of Alaska, they vote.
Yeah.
They vote red.
Look at any major city in any state in America, they voted Democrat.
And then so you have these wide swaths of red, red, red, red, and then boom, targeted major cities.
Boom, targeted major cities.
What's the story there?
Obviously, there's no secret.
Rural America goes Trump, goes Republican.
Every single major city goes blue.
And I know there's someone out there, they're going to be like, well, there's one city in West Virginia.
I get it.
Okay, I won't say 100%.
Let's say 99.9%.
It's not so much left versus right.
No, it's conservative versus liberal.
Cities versus liberal.
I mean, cities versus liberal.
When you're talking about cities, you're talking about city funding, city budgets, public pensions.
You're talking about the need for fiscal federal aid in many cases.
I mean, your biggest example is the city of Chicago.
But that's, you know, that is your extreme example.
But whittle that down to every big city in most states in the United States, and you're going to have similar big city type of issues.
And that is that you tend to have bigger fire departments.
You tend to have the teachers union.
Think about Texas and Austin.
And where is all of Texas's pension money run in Austin, Texas?
That's the Democratic stronghold of our state here where we are.
So any city that has massive public financing issues tends to need more federal assistance.
Well, let me ask you this, Danielle, because that's the socioeconomic component for the most part right there.
What about just the social component?
This is more of a question than an answer.
I'd love to get your perspective.
What's the reason that's part of it, clearly?
Is there something to be said for in cities?
You're surrounded by all sorts of people.
If you're in Chicago, if you're in New York City, if you're in LA, if you're in Miami, if you're in Dallas, you're meeting white people, Latinos, Asians, gays, straits, this, that, everything, fat, skinny, da-da-da-da-da.
Whereas if you're in rural, you're like, man, get the hell off my property.
I'm over here.
I got my, let me be.
Just, I'm not surrounded by all these different types of people.
I don't got these Latinos over here.
I don't have, you know, blacks coming here.
Like rural America is white, so that's why I'm giving that example.
What about the social component?
Where are your thoughts on that?
I'm going to let Patrick jump in here.
Yeah, so I mean, the way I would look at it is a different way.
Here's how I would say to you: what's easier to sell?
Being a Republican or being a Democrat?
Being a Democrat.
Which principles is easier to sell, to sell?
So say I'm somebody that's clueless about politics, and I'm sitting here.
And I say, honestly, I have no clue what to vote for.
I don't know.
And I'm just a regular person making 50, 60, 70 grand a year.
What's an easier thing to sell?
What concept?
Depends what your pitch is.
Okay, so how do Democrats pitch themselves?
As givers.
As givers, okay.
We're there for the people.
We support you.
We want to increase your minimum.
What's easier to want?
Affairs Day's work.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if the Republican Party said you want to be left alone, feel free to try hard to get it.
Wait a minute.
Well, just a simple quote.
What's easier to sell?
Anytime someone's giving you free stuff, that's probably easier to do.
It's easier to sell.
Do you want an easier life or do you want a harder life?
Now, watch the Republicans.
You know the father that kids grow up not liking?
What does a father say?
Make your bed.
Stop crying.
Get your act together.
Make your bed.
Get up.
Save your money.
Get to work.
You need a job.
Get off the couch, right?
I mean, shake it off.
That father, who the hell likes that father?
He just fell down a flight of steps.
Get up, shake it off.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And you know that.
I mean, you see them on football games.
Basketball is not going to go.
I mean, I was a kid.
I'm going around the track.
A bike.
Every kid is on this bike track.
And my dad, we're in Iran.
And Park is Shah and Shaheed.
And I said, dad, I want to go the other way.
He says, they're going to hit you.
I said, I'm going the other way.
He says, okay, do what you want to do, but you're going to get hit.
So all the kids are going this way.
I start going to just a famous story of the David family.
They keep telling each other.
So everyone's going like this.
60, 70 kids, I'm going this way.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, it feels like I'm going faster.
Then I'm looking at my dad.
Boom, I hit a kid.
I fly off the bike.
I fall on the ground.
I'm bleeding everywhere.
The kid is bleeding everywhere.
Kids' parents run up.
What is the matter with you?
They say, who's your parents?
I said, point of my dad.
I point to my dad.
My dad's pointing at the water.
David, shout out.
My dad's pointing at the water faucet.
He says, go wash yourself.
He didn't come to me.
So I went and washed myself, but I'm not crying.
The other kid is crying.
He says, okay, so what are you going to do?
Which way you want to go?
I said, I think I'm going to go the other way.
He says, okay, go the other way, right?
What's the moral of the story?
That's an annoying quality.
You know, you want your dad to run up to you.
Oh, my gosh, baby, are you good?
That's the difference.
But what's good for you?
So when you say that, I don't know what's your point because to me, it's like, whose message is easier to buy into when I'm naive?
That message is a lot easier message to you.
But you're assuming that there's people who are just completely clueless and that's why they're voting Democrats.
Do you remember the video I showed on the marathon where I showed RFK when MLK died and he got up and he gave the speech?
Powerful speech.
And he said, you know, I have some bad news for you.
Martin Luther King was just shot and killed.
And you hear this.
And the crowd gasped.
Crowd gasped, right?
And then he says, there's two ways we can handle this situation.
One is what?
One is to go out there and cause revenge, angry, and the other one is or we can come together like Martin Luther King.
He says, the bad news is the man that killed your Martin Luther King was a white man.
He says, the interesting stories I relate to you because I just had a loved one as well recently die.
And he was also killed by a white man, which is John F. Kennedy.
But that happens today.
If today and modern day MLK gets shot and the modern day RFK gets up and gives a speech, is that what he's going to say?
I don't know if that's what they're going to say today.
I think the messaging today is very divisive today.
I think the way the Democrats are selling today, they're selling Trump's racist.
They're selling Republicans are racist.
They're selling.
And quite honestly, it's easier to sell people on emotions rather than logic.
Emotions, it's easier to sell than logic is.
This is a good time saying, speaking of, is there someone that can come out and speak?
At some point during the show today, we should show what Biden had to say.
Because what he had to say is actually very powerful, and it's something that I wish I campaigned as a Democrat, but I'll govern it.
I want to government.
It was actually a very powerful statement that he came out and said.
And it is something that is definitely getting under the skin of the progressives and the far lefts in the party.
Because as much as he is delivering a message to all of the United States and everybody in it and saying, you will all be my constituents, he's also implicitly saying, I'm not going to necessarily be pliable and I'm not necessarily going to be drawn into your narrative and what you want to do.
So I'm going to govern for everybody.
And I mean, the undertone of his statement is to me very reassuring.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm very watchful that Biden is reaching out more to the right than the progressive left.
I think that's what he needs to do.
I mean, and look, and there are a lot of people who are going to be conservative in their bones and that this will appeal to.
If he wants, if he gets this next six electoral votes and he crosses the 270 line, theoretically, you know, how are you going to work with a GOP-led Senate?
How are you going to work with Mitch McConnell?
And that's what you have to be.
I mean, either you're going to get legislation done or you're not.
He was witness to Obama not getting a lot of legislation done over an eight-year period.
Maybe he was doing a lot of ribbon-cutting ceremonies at the time in his position as vice president, but he witnessed what it looks like to have a mostly lame duck presidency.
So maybe he can appreciate the importance of crossing the aisle because he's going to have to figure it out.
He's going to have to put centrists and conservatives in that cabinet, or he's going to end up alienating the Senate, and you might as well be in gridlock for the next four years and accomplish exactly nothing.
If Biden goes too far left, just get ready for more, more, and more partisanship that we've seen since really George W. Bush left office or even Clinton.
But when we were preparing last night, I mean, he has a very elegant way to resolve this issue.
I don't know if we can play the Kai, I don't know if we've got this queued up, but Bernie Sanders, a few days ago, the day before the election, Bernie Sanders is doing a Zoom call with the quad.
With the squad.
Squad.
The four ladies, yeah.
Yeah, there he is.
Yeah.
And that has to.
They look at him like a god, by the way.
All of us are working very hard to make that happen.
But we understand that electing Biden is not the end of all.
It is the beginning.
Okay.
And I think as the result of the work that all of you have done, Biden's proposals in this campaign are a lot stronger than they were in the primary.
Alexandria was on the climate change task was that a great job.
And his proposals are stronger.
Do they go as far as we would want?
No, they don't.
Okay.
Biden, unlike Trump, does not conceive of himself as a dictator.
That means you have your job in the House.
I've got my job with others in the Senate.
And we're not giving up on our agenda.
For example, one area.
You know, Biden wants to expand health care, that's good.
Wants to lower prescription drug costs, that's great.
Wants the double funding for community health centers, very important.
But you know, and I know that at the end of the day, the only way that we're going to provide quality care to every man, woman, and child in an affordable way is through Medicare for all.
And we ain't giving up on that struggle.
Well, we're going to introduce Medicare for all.
Believe me, we are.
And we have, because of all of your efforts and the efforts of great doctors, nurses, and others throughout the country, we've got a majority of the people who support us.
So thank you for that.
Green New Deal.
We ain't giving up on that.
We know, my God, I mean, every day.
Positive game.
The horrors are going on.
Yeah, because he can go on and on and on.
But you notice that that's a screen full of people in Congress, House of Representatives, senators.
I mean, look, Biden can come in on day one and say, I am my own man.
I'm going to be choosing my own cabinet, and there will be no members of the U.S. House of Congress who are going to be members of my cabinet.
Moving on to the next thing.
Do you think he's going to do that?
I think it's, you know, Jamie Dimon wrote some very, Jamie Dimon alluded to that in some public comments that he made recently.
I bring up Jamie Dimon because he runs the largest bank in the country.
And if you're going to have a successful administration, you might want to have the biggest banks on board with you.
They might be more important.
So again, if he crafts a cabinet that is more Reagan-esque and less left, then I think he will have a much easier task on his hands.
Plus the fact that Nancy Pelosi has lost seats, six of them.
So the Democratic stronghold in the House is not as strong as it was.
So, you know, there are three seats left.
One seat went to the Democrats last night in the Senate.
So that was a bit of a surprise.
So now you're down to three seats.
It still looks like Republicans are going to retain control of the Senate.
And that is a harder grasp than when you've got a House that can float either way because there's so many more moving people, moving parts.
But she has lost some control of that House.
It's up to Joe Biden to choose a cabinet that can work with all of them.
Will she stay the Speaker?
Pelosi?
Yes.
That's not changing.
And McConnell and her are going to go at it.
Well, they have been, but the element...
Basically, nothing's changed.
The element that has brought them together traditionally has been Stephen Mnuchin.
And that's the best.
So let me ask you guys another question.
Let me ask you another question.
By the way, just so I know all the valuators, I see your commentary, and I'm going to ask them right now to just kind of see what they think.
How much of fraud do you think went into this election?
How much fraud?
You know, I think that there is a chance that there is some fraud that's gone on.
Was it the fraud that got J.F. Kennedy, John F. Kennedy into office?
No.
I mean, you didn't have two entire states where there were numerous hundreds of thousands of dead people voting.
So yes, there might have been a tiny bit of fraud.
I think, and there's likely fraud in every single election, and there'll be fraud in the 2022 midterms.
And that's just a part of life.
But again, it was great weather nationwide.
You had the highest turnout.
You had 66.9% turnout in this election.
You have to go back to the year 1900.
That's the last time we had this high a voter turnout.
20 years.
1900, the presidential election.
So you said percentage-wise, turnout?
Percentage-wise, yes.
What was the percentage?
73.2% turnout in 1900, 66.9% turnout in 2020.
And because, again, I mean, weather is a, you know, if you've got a foot of snow on the ground in the Midwest, you're not going to have that many people voting.
It was unusually.
You brought up that it was a nice weather day.
It was a nice weather day nationwide, and you had lots of people voting on Election Day as well.
And when you listen to the states, whether it's the Attorney General of Michigan or Wisconsin, they were like, it was just a normal day.
We had just a few snafus here and there.
You had polls open late in Atlanta.
They compensated by that for staying open an hour late.
So it was a very smooth, smoothly run election day.
By the way, if you're watching this and if you think there was voter fraud, press thumbs up, push thumbs up.
If you think there wasn't any voter fraud to the point where it could influence the entire election, put thumbs down.
So, either thumbs up for yes, there was voter fraud, thumbs down.
There wasn't.
Did you see the Project Veritas video yesterday with Michigan?
I did not.
Okay, so do you know it came out very late?
It came out like, I don't know what time, but it came out late.
Do you know how many views it got in the first seven hours on Twitter?
Have you seen it?
Million views.
How many views do you think got on Twitter?
On Twitter?
Twitter, I don't know, a couple hundred thousand.
Seven million seven hours.
Can you pull up the video?
I just want you to see what happens here.
And you know, for me, I can tell the difference between an act and when you listen to the voice, you don't hear somebody that's acting.
Listen to this guy on how he speaks and who he is.
That's two minutes.
Go.
Where you work.
I work in the Traverse City Post Office, more specifically the Barlow Branch.
Your boss told you and your colleague something that shocked you this morning.
What was it?
We were issued a directive this morning to collect any ballots we find in mailboxes, collection boxes, just outgoing mail in general, separate them at the end of the day so that they could hand stamp them with the previous day's date.
Today is November 4th for clarification.
Who is your boss?
What is his title?
Jonathan would be a direct supervisor, yes.
As of right now, he is the opening supervisor for the Barlow Branch post office.
So I, and Mrs. Anander or Carrie, you're down at another office, said me, watch the postmaster doing it.
So you know what they're saying.
If it were just a typical day, it would be clerks doing it up at the distribution center.
So 8 p.m. election day, November 3rd, the Court of Appeals ruled ballots have to be received by that time.
And what were you told?
So separate them today so they could mark them with yesterday's date and send them to the express system to wherever they needed to go.
This appears to be an attempt to circumvent Michigan law and allow late votes.
And you said there was a hamper where letter carriers were supposed to leave their ballots.
Where are the ballots now?
They were putting them into express bags to go to the distribution center.
In regards to a hamper, there's a standard hamper that all letter mail is supposed to go to, and they had a tub next to it that we were supposed to put any ballots collected today into.
What made you come forward?
That's sketchy.
Like sketchy, it screams corruption.
It doesn't sound like exactly.
This guy's voice is very shady.
Here's your message to other postal workers who see things like this.
Report it?
How are we supposed to have any integrity in this country if we are just going to let things slide based on afraid of retaliation against you?
I've had whistleblower policies backfire on me in the past, so yes.
We'll have to reach out to Jonathan Clark for comment.
Hey, is this Jonathan?
Hey, I'm a reporter with Project Euritas and James O'Keeffe here.
And I have information that you guys have been stamping ballots with the previous date, November 3rd.
He just hung up the phone on me.
What's your reaction to that, Danielle?
This type of unsubstantiated, the source is unknown, could have come from anybody.
Yeah, but why did a guy hang up?
Who's sitting on the phone for that?
No, I don't know you, but I'm about to call you and basically accuse you.
How many crazies do you think have called that person all day long?
But here's a question for you.
So both of you are saying this is nothing.
That's not what I said.
Is that what you're saying?
I don't know.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying it's nothing.
I'm saying it is potentially something that could be investigated.
Yeah.
But should be investigated.
And should be investigated.
Fair.
So investigated.
So we put the election on hold and we investigate this to see if there's anything to it before we announce the president.
I don't think the entire election is not going to be available.
I told you it's going on hold because that's Michigan.
So 120,000 ballots in Michigan were dropped and in Wisconsin that were Trump votes.
Play the other thing on what happened in California here.
Watch this one in California.
I mean, you're seeing this stuff all over the place.
And to me, make the video in a way.
Is there anything you can do to the video, Kai, or no?
I want to show this video.
See if you can change the video in a format.
Man, you got to find a video and maybe copy paste it.
But go ahead.
You were going to say something.
A couple different things.
Obviously, there's people out there who are just fraudulent, I'm not there.
I'm not in the fraudulent, fraudulent account.
You know what campaign I'm in?
What's that?
I'm in the count it once, count it twice, count it three times, bring it to the Supreme Court.
There's no chance I want Biden winning this election and having four years of, he stole it.
It's all illegal.
I want it to be triple checked.
I'm on the same page.
Triple checked.
And if it comes out that the vote calculations are totally off and totally offset.
You lost, you lost.
Just man up.
You lost.
There's no chance that I want four years of more chaos in this country.
So watch this.
I want it to be triple checked.
God, these are they all in ballots.
Are there a ton in there?
Yeah.
All right.
Are you collecting from a lot of places?
By the way, this is in California.
Yeah, this California.
But they called in very early.
California?
Do you think California's flipping?
But even with that, I'm not a fan of this.
Watch this.
Just watch this.
Are you guys official election guys?
All right.
And let me just ask you one thing.
Where do you guys take them?
Election stuff.
That's it.
Watch what happens when she gets crazy.
Dell County.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Are there a lot more in there?
Watch what he says.
Get back.
It's six feet.
Thank you, guys.
I just want to see, because they called our state so quickly.
I know.
I am.
You don't have a mask either.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
Are they allowed to do that?
Are they allowed to do that?
So look, the people, the folks who are upset saying there's voter fraud, I want to look at history of voter fraud just to kind of see what voter fraud happened last night and this morning, because I'm actually curious now for voter fraud, right?
So do you know how elections were up until 1804?
Do you know how we chose presidents and vice presidents up until 1804?
You had to have jewels and you'd shoot your opponent.
Yeah, well, that was actually not a bad setup, right?
But do you actually know how they did it?
Like, I didn't know this.
Danielle, did you know how they did it up until 1804?
No, I wasn't around then.
So when you and I ran, if you got 2 million, I got 1 million nine, you become the president, I become the vice president.
Awesome.
Oh, yes.
Yes, yes, right?
Pretty intense.
I mean, you heard about it.
You lose your number two.
You lose your number two second.
First or less.
Biden would become president.
Let's just say in Trump will become a bad person.
So Biden would have four more years of ribbon cutting.
But just think about that.
Could you imagine?
My mind went there, dude, thinking, what if that actually was the case?
I love it.
Up until 1804.
Now, in 1803, there was something called Cooping.
Are you familiar with Cooping?
I know about Rodney and Cooper.
You know what Cooping was called.
Here's what Cooping was.
Cooping back in the days, and this went until 1920, by the way, the stop.
It went up until Al Capone.
Cooping was they would find people in the streets, they would pull you off, they would get you drunk, they would give you drugs, they would disguise you to go vote multiple times for different people.
That's what we call the fake mustard.
And by the way, craziest story, Edgar Allan Poe died outside of a voting poll on Election Day.
And they say he was one of the folks that was used for cooping.
This famous author.
So then you continue, you continue up until 1890.
Do you know up until 1890 how they did election?
You had to publicly say who you voted for.
Okay.
So you exactly.
So you asked your question yesterday.
You would do it.
Would you be willing to tell us how you voted for Bridge?
But up until 1890, you would say, I'm voting for Trump.
I'm voting for Biden.
And everybody would know up until 1890.
Let's bring it back.
So then they said, listen, this is a little too out of control.
It's going to piss people off.
Nobody can keep it a secret.
So some people actually didn't want to come out and vote because they said, I'd rather not vote than tell people who I'm voting for.
They said, we've got to change it.
So then eventually around 1890 or so, they changed it to a secret ballot.
And secret ballot was a system that they took from Australia.
It's how Australia did it for the longest time.
So this led to the largest change because now you could go and it was specific rules and guidelines they put up.
It was in an indoor space in public buildings run by government officials.
There will be a single ballot to produce by states.
The ballot would obtain, contain the names of the candidates with an option to also write in.
The ballot will be completed in total privacy.
That's what happened there.
Now, from that time, even with secret ballots, fraudsters still showed up because of impersonation at the polls, false registration, duplicate voting, fraudulent absentee votes, buying votes, illegal assistance at the polls, ineligible voting, altering vote count, ballot petition fraud.
And since 1980, there's been 1,071 instances of voter fraud.
Even in 1,071 instances of voter fraud since 1980.
So in the last 40 years.
Which is a small number.
There's a smaller number.
A very small number.
1,071.
By the way, the chances of there being a voter fraud, I'll give you the percent.
I'm actually going to give you guys some content here.
The chances of voter fraud is between 0.00040s, 4%, up to 0.000, 9%.
So 0.00004 to 0.0009.
So essentially less than, less than, less than, less than 1%.
Less than, less than, less than 1%, yes.
But there's been 1,071 cases of voter fraud.
And I think the biggest concern people have right now, do you know how many votes Bush beat Gore by in 2000?
Do you know how many votes it was?
It was like a couple thousand votes in Florida, maybe even a couple hundred.
Something wrong with that.
No, I don't think it was a couple hundred thousand.
I think it was 530.
No, no, a couple hundred.
Yeah, it was 539.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
In a state that beats.
Florida.
Not 539,000.
539 voters.
Right now, as of 99% of votes having been counted to that, because God knows it's going to be running around on my Twitter feed later on.
Right now, Biden has a 241,000 count lead over Trump in the state of Michigan.
Yeah.
A quarter million almost.
Yeah.
That's a massive lead.
By the way, even if 120,000.
Even if the whistleblower is correct and there was an instance, if you will, and he did his civic duty and rightly so and blew the whistle, even if that's the case, 241,000 is a plenty big margin, right?
You have to do a recount automatically if your margin is in between 1%.
It's not.
You could drive a golf cart through it.
You're right.
It's not Wisconsin is, but Michigan is a different story.
And Danielle, let me say one thing.
Thank you for bringing that up because I actually found out how, you know, the total, the guy was like, Armored the Traverse Schoody Barlow Branch.
You know the total population of Traverse City?
15,000.
Total population in Traverse City, Michigan.
I've been there.
It's upstate Michigan.
But he's on the Barlow branch.
So meaning he's in one post office in a 15,000-person city.
So let's just say that there was some shady stuff.
Let's say that guy was absolutely right.
Shady as hell.
Maybe there's a couple hundred votes, maybe a couple thousand.
Maybe you just said there's only been a thousand instances of voter fraud in 40 freaking years.
So let's say that guy was shredded as hoe.
What are we talking about?
A couple hundred votes?
You have to know that.
I mean, you have to know there is a much bigger chance to do voter fraud with mail-in ballots.
Much bigger chance to do voter fraud with mail-in ballots.
Of course, if you don't agree with that, you're naive yourself.
There's a much to say 160 million people voted.
Biden got more votes than Obama.
Are you saying he's a better candidate than Obama?
I mean, it's not even Biden didn't even campaign.
And he got more than Obama did.
So the mail-in ballots changed the game.
So if you really go through the game, if you really go through the game, and if you go to a complete dark side, go complete dark for a quick second here.
Coronavirus hits, you shut down.
What a brilliant strategy to shut down and say we have to do mail-in ballots.
We have to do mail-in ballots.
We have to do mail-in ballots.
going really dark here if we do if we do i mean if you if they can i get a ray of sunshine somewhere Strategically, if you do, great strategies.
Guys, I have a great idea.
Let's go to China.
Let's eat some bats.
Let's develop 60.
Develop a pandemic.
We'll get the mail-in ballots.
We'll get the voter fraud.
We'll get the dude in Michigan.
We got this thing.
And we're going to win by like 1%.
I had somebody on my Twitter feed still on Monday saying, this is going away.
This is going away on Wednesday.
The coronavirus disappears.
Oh, nice.
Vanishes.
And there are a lot of them out there, a lot of them out there.
And so to that person, whoever you are, because you hide behind an avatar because it's such a sign of strength.
Picture didn't.
He didn't have a picture.
No, no, no.
Hiding behind something anonymous.
You don't give us a chance.
As Drake likes to say, trigger fingers turned to Twitter fingers.
Like everyone's tough on Twitter.
The toughest people in the world are.
My reply to him in the comment section.
In Italy too, like everywhere.
Yesterday, Johns Hopkins reported that there were more than 10,000 deaths worldwide from the coronavirus.
We've never crossed that line ever worldwide.
10,000 deaths.
You know what, Danielle?
Stop it.
But it's round away yesterday.
Stop it, Danielle.
We are rounding the turn.
I'm just saying there's we've already rounded it.
If you.
If you want to talk about what alienated a lot of people in this country and where he may have lost senior voters, senior voters, it was because he called the coronavirus a blessing.
And Trump calling it a blessing to his evangelical religious base, many of whom are older and have lost friends to the coronavirus, might have been a step too far.
Yeah, by the way, the U.S. just set a record for 86,000 a day average corona cases.
Yes, we have to do it.
According to Wall Street Journal, I don't know if they're fake news or not, but according to Williams.
We had more than 100,000 cases here.
We're up to 53,000 hospitalizations.
We're 11 percentage points off of peak hospitalizations.
And we've had fatalities in the United States north of 1,100 for two days running.
This does not appear to be a problem.
You think Biden's going to fix that?
To be going.
It was interesting because Biden can't fix it.
Biden cannot fix it.
It's not the way our government was designed originally.
Biden can come out and say there is a national mask mandate in theory.
He cannot enforce it.
What the states have to enforce it?
That is up to the states.
That is in the hands of the states.
So as strong as he could theoretically be and as unifying as he could theoretically be to say, hey, this is not metaphor, kids.
Winter cometh.
And be a little safer.
Be a little more distant.
Think wiser, act wiser.
He can say all he wants.
It will still come down to the states.
And unlike Europe, I doubt that we're going to have to go to the bottom.
So then, how does the blame of COVID be on Trump, though?
If you're saying Biden can't fix it, there's a big, you know, in media, everybody's saying, well, if I was this, I would have handled different way.
If you know, this person was, he would have handled different way.
And I'm asking now, would Biden make it go away?
You're saying Biden can't do anything about it, but you're saying it's Trump's fault.
Talk to hospital administrators.
And hospital administrators, I'm talking about in Timbuktu, and right now, rural areas are getting hurt by the coronavirus, much worse than the big cities.
But talk to hospital administrators, and they're like, all of this funding from the CARES Act, which was out months ago, all of the funding through the CDC to release this equipment was months and months ago.
We're still waiting.
Send us the damn equipment.
So there have been holdups.
There have been, and you don't normally associate Trump with red tape.
He's the actual opposite.
He's the antithesis.
He's the red tape cutter, gets through regulations, all the BS, gets the.
But there are things that he can do very quickly in terms of bolstering up hospitals that need equipment just like that.
And that would be a big relief.
So then, so then how could Biden help?
Like, do you think Biden's going to be better with coronavirus?
I'm talking about what Biden could do.
He could actually listen to the medical community throughout the country saying, we need this, we need that, and actually deliver on it as opposed to not deliver on it.
Yeah, for sure.
Because they're still waiting.
I will tell you: if California all of a sudden opens up in the next four to six weeks after Biden wins and Disneyland opens up, very, very, you know, political type of a move right there.
If all of a sudden they open up, oh my gosh, Biden solved the problems the moment he came in.
Everybody opened up.
So now watch what's going to happen.
You know what's going to be funny?
If it flips and all Fox now talks about is COVID cases.
Can you imagine if it flips?
That's what's going to be really funny, if that really takes place.
But if all of a sudden, wait a minute.
If they all of a sudden say, if they all of a sudden say, look how amazing he is.
Biden came, economy opened up.
People are back working and they make him look at heroes.
The reality is the most regulators and these governors that shut down, they're liberals.
So if they open it up, they're going to make Biden look good.
They're going to make him look real good.
Let me add some of that.
By the way, you were looking for a little race Sunshine Wall Street Journal reports.
AstraZeneca, we've heard their name a bunch, expects a vaccine this year by the end of the year.
This year, I think, you know, whether you're left or right or Martian for that matter, I think we would all expect the vaccine.
So that happened under Trump's administration that's never happened under 18 months.
So you got to give that man a lot of credit.
You like playing games, right?
Let's play a game.
Let's play a game.
I'd like to know.
I mean, Trump is 74 years old.
Okay.
Let's play a game.
Let's say he wins this election.
Somehow, there's a less than 20% chance.
Let's say he loses.
Yeah.
You know, what's the famous line?
Losers don't get to write the history.
Help me out here with quote: winners write history.
There's going to be a different narrative if Trump wins re-election, wins eight years.
There's a story behind it.
You know, comes in and shakes the system up and rocks things.
He's there for eight years, gets re-elected.
I mean, he can write that story.
He does not get re-elected.
What does his tombstone, his obituary, sound like if he only wins four years versus eight years?
What does that sound like to you?
I think his, And this is a shame because of what he did in the beginning of his term, because of some of the funding that went into African-American colleges,
because of opportunity zones and other efforts that were made, because of him tearing back regulations, because he made it easier to do business in America, and was kind of the architect of bringing the unemployment rate down to a 50-year low.
A lot of that was Federal Reserve policy.
A lot of it was, but it was also making it easier to do business in America, which at last check, it should be easy.
It's America.
There should have never been all that red tape in the Obama years.
Period end.
But I'm not so sure that history is going to give him that credit because of where the economy is headed now and because the coronavirus has hit the minority working population so, so hard.
So it's going to remain to be seen.
If we're entering a dark chapter in U.S. history, then you could look to spiteful historians especially, spiteful historians who feel like they've been marginalized in a Trump world.
Think about your typical political pundit who's basically been in hibernation for the last four years inside the beltway.
He hasn't needed people to tell him what to think, nor has he needed advisors to tell him what to say.
He thinks it.
He tweets it.
I mean, there's really no, there's no stopping him in between.
But it is possible that he not gets the credit that he deserves for some of the things that he did accomplish for the U.S. economy.
What do you think it sounds like if he only wins four years versus eight years?
Listen, let's just face it.
This is one of the most competitive, if not the most competitive person we've had as a president in the history of America.
He's extremely competitive, at least the last 50 years that we know of and all the other stuff.
I don't disagree.
He's extremely competitive.
But I don't mind having a guy like that on my side.
I just don't.
I don't mind having a guy like that on my side.
He's going to hate it.
He will be miserable.
He will hate life.
To a person like that, it'll be very, very hard for him.
Publicly, he'll act fine deep down inside.
The guy cannot stand losing.
He hates losing.
When Michael lost, you felt the pain.
You know he hated it and you loved him for it because you loved how much it mattered to him that he lost.
That's where he's at.
He's going to hate losing.
And I love that.
I love the fact that it matters so much to a guy who is going to hate losing.
Is he going to be the kind of a guy that's going to come out and say, well, you know, we've lost, we lost, and they won fair and square?
I'm going to say no.
He's not going to do that.
He's going to come out.
He's going to put a comment and say, well, you know, it is what it is.
What are they going to write about him?
Meaning, like, that's what how he's going to be.
I'm going to say this to you, if you give me a second.
So we've had three one-term presidents in the last 50 years, 40 years.
We had what?
Ford, Carter, senior, prior to that was Hoover.
Yeah, senior, of course.
But, you know, first of all, Ford, anomaly, you know, put him on a completely different side because of what happened, how he became a president.
He didn't even win re-election for whatever.
You know, Ford is Ford.
So then you have a Carter who won the worst presidents.
We've had nicest guy, sweethearted guy, a horrible president.
We had just, I'm in America because of Carter, just so you know that.
If there's no Carter, I'm still in Iran.
I'm here in America because of Carter.
I was about to say, so bring Carter back into discussion.
Continue.
And then you have Bush Sr., which honestly, Bush Sr. to me was more of a COO.
He was never a CEO.
There's a difference between a COO and a COVID.
He was never a number one.
No, he's not a number one.
He's a guy behind closed doors that's a great project manager.
Give him a project.
He will lead it.
He'll get it done.
That was him.
He was never the guy that's going to come out and inspire people.
It's just, you never saw him like that.
And Ross Perrot showed up from Texas.
He will be Trump will be loved, admired, adored by a lot of people on his side.
Now, is he going away?
That's the question.
The question isn't really legacy, because legacy is going to have both sides.
There's going to be sides that's going to, comedians are going to love trashing him.
No, It's going to go to whole different levels.
You think it's going to get even harder?
It's going to go to a whole different level.
I can't wait for SNL's reaction, what they're going to, it's going to go to a whole different level if he loses.
Comedians are going to rock the house saying, I told you so.
This guy, they're going to crush the TV.
The Don Lemons of the world, the Cuomos of the world, the Coopers, they're going to be loving life the next four years.
However, he's 74.
In four years, he'll be Biden's age.
If there's anybody that's the kind of person that's going to prepare the next four years to make a comeback and come and ruin these guys' lives, if there's one guy that would do something like that, it's Trump.
Can he run again in four years?
Does that help that work?
Yes, he can.
Okay, he will.
He'll be running again in four years.
It's happened before.
So you're answering my question.
You're actually answering my question.
Jimmy Carter.
Rank presidents, living presidents who have brought more to their country.
Current living presidents.
That have brought, meaning what?
Like done good?
Done good for their country in their lifetimes.
Living presidents.
Clinton.
That have done good, meaning they did a good time when there were four years they didn't do for the economy.
After they left office.
Including their time after office.
Oh, Carter's a nonprofit charity guy, involved, active.
Yeah, he just wasn't a good president.
Foreign relations either.
Terrible president.
Continuing to work outside of America on America's behavior.
Betty Ford is the same.
If you put the Ford family, they did as well.
There's a lot, yes, sure.
But Carter's legacy is pretty incredible.
Not as a president.
For how bad his presidency is.
As a human being.
And okay, W. George W.
He disappeared.
And has been, what, gracious, even though he was...
He never undermined Obama.
Obama has done it a million times in Obama now.
He never undermined Obama.
Even though Obama every day said, I got a bad administration.
He trashed Bush, but Bush never trashed Obama.
Dignified.
Big time.
Big time dignified.
Yeah, I mean, I got his picture there in my office because I like the way he handled himself.
But what he did is he disappeared.
He didn't want the limelight.
He gave it to Obama.
Right.
Sure.
And something Obama could do.
And his legacy now is therefore pristine.
Sure.
I wouldn't say pristine.
He went into Iraq.
He caused the.
There were a lot of things.
There's still people that don't like Trump.
His personality is well-regarded.
Right, but I'm not talking about what he did as president.
I'm talking about legacy.
Four years from now, let's say Trump does not run.
What does his legacy look like?
Well, essentially, that's what I was saying.
To who?
To the country as a whole.
I don't see it that way.
I think forever there is a playbook for future Trumps.
Forever.
Everybody who sees themselves as a Trump who's not a career politician who wants to one day run for office, whether they're a Democrat or Republican, Trump officially gave him the playbook.
Oprah.
Rock.
Trump officially gave him the playbook.
Trump gave him the playbook to say, Trump secretly is many people's hero, but they cannot say publicly.
Listen, many people voted for Trump.
You know how you ask people and say, who'd you vote for?
I'm not going to say.
You voted for Trump.
Who the hell would say I'm not going to say if you voted for Biden?
Like, for example, you know, remember?
Oh, Ray Rocket for.
But wait a minute.
Remember Megan Kelly.
Remember Megan Kelly?
Megan Kelly years ago.
She tried to play the car because she wanted to be Oprah.
I don't know if you guys remember she wanted to get like an Oprah contract.
She couldn't get that.
So Megan Kelly in 2016, she's got.
She's passed up Bill O'Reilly.
People are watching Megan Kelly more than they're watching Bill O'Reilly.
Everybody's like, dude, I'm tuning into Megan Kelly.
And then all of a sudden, Megan Kelly started playing the card of, I'm not really this.
I'm not really that.
And she got the contract.
And then she got the contract and she trashed Fox.
Where's Megan Kelly today?
Where's Megan?
If Megan Kelly would have stood ground and said, look, I have problems with Fox.
I don't like this thing, but I'm going to do this and I'm going to stick to my positions.
Megan Kelly would have ruled the world today.
I agree.
But what happened?
There is this community.
She went Hollywood on us.
There is this community that is afraid of where they're going to be.
Secretly, millions of people admire Trump, and a lot of people are going to use this guy's playbook.
Dude, you got to realize.
I mean, you know how hard it is to not give credit to a guy that his entire career, he played business, he did everything he ever wanted.
And then at the end of the day, he says, you know what?
I'm going to go freaking run for office.
Out of 16 people, the only person that said this guy's going to win it all was who?
Who was the only crazy psycho, you know, woman that said, oh, this guy's going to win it?
And Colonel Bill Mars says, if it ends today, Trump's winning.
He's like, what?
Are you out of your mind?
And then Obama made fun of him.
Everybody, Robert Downey Jr., not Robert Downey Jr., George Clooney, everybody joked about this guy.
And he won against Hillary Clinton, who's supposed to be Madam Secretary Queen of the world.
He beat Hillary Clinton.
So there is a part that legacy-wise, this guy changed the game.
Love him or hate him.
He changed the game.
Look, I don't have to like LeBron to know he changed the game.
I don't have to like somebody to say a person changed the game.
Trump absolutely changed the game, win or lose.
But I'm going to tell you, listen, Adam, there are certain people when they make millions, they disappear.
There are certain people in the game of basketball, they win one championship, they disappear.
There are certain people, they get a nice corporate job, they disappear.
There's certain people that you used to lose to, they get this much of a victory, they disappear.
This is not that guy.
No.
Just so you know this.
This is not that guy.
And not only is he not going to disappear, so people say, well, he's going to disappear when he dies.
Absolutely not even when he dies, whatever age he dies.
The Trump spirit is going to be in so many younger.
If he loses, I'm going to tell you what's going to happen if he loses.
Say he loses.
Say he loses.
Brother, Danielle, if this guy loses, you officially have a group of tens of thousands, not millions, because it's not true believers.
Tens of thousands of true believers that are not going to forget this.
Tens of thousands of true believers that are not going to forget this.
And we're going to see what they're going to be doing in the next two, four, six, eight, 10, 20 years.
So he parlays this into, I mean, the running theory of the conventional wisdom is that he parlays this into his own network, that he unseats Fox News.
He could easily do that.
That he becomes the next Rupert Murdoch.
He could easily do that.
But I don't know.
I don't know if he is going to be satisfied with just that.
Because, you know, when you've reached a mountaintop of a certain business, you're just kind of like annoyed by it.
And you go and you start negotiating with other dignitaries and presidents and prime ministers.
You really want to go back to negotiating with other presidents of CEOs of companies?
You're bored.
You're like, dude, I played this game already.
Who the hell wants to go win basketball at YMCA when you're playing at college level?
When you're in the NBA, who wants to go play against college level and beat college?
So where can he go?
Where can he go to be bigger?
Here's where he can go.
Phenomenal question.
Here's where he can go.
Where he can go is what Republicans haven't been doing.
I'm in Chicago at the Ritz-Carlton a few years ago, before Trump.
So put it 14, 15.
I'm at the Ritz, and there's 2,000 African-American men and women in their 18, 19, 2021.
Sharp all look ridiculous.
Like I'm talking beautiful three-piece suit.
The ladies wearing nice dresses like the ones you put together.
Everybody's looking money, right?
And I'm like, what are you guys doing here?
With the future Democratic lawyers of the African-American community.
I said, what's this all about?
He says, well, we're a private organization.
We come together.
Who's your hero?
Barack Obama.
What do you guys want to be?
We're all running for one day.
Maybe we'll be president.
And let me tell you, it was so flipping impressive.
I'm like, dang, this is impressive.
So he's breeding the next Obama.
It's good for you.
If Trump really loves America, if he really loves America, okay?
Which, but people who believe in him believe that this guy really loves America.
And the foundation America was founded on.
He wants to protect that.
If he does, the next thing he's got to do is figure out more the university route, the more the education route, the more the rallying, the next troops route, duplicating himself rout.
It's not through corporation.
It's about, I'm going to bring two, three, four thousand young cats, and I'm going to get this mindset in their brain over and again for this spirit to last for the next 50, 60, 100 years.
You're saying that's the direction that he should go?
I don't think the media is going to.
I think the media is going to be a small play form.
Listen, I'm not saying he can't do it.
I think he could do it.
But I think he's got, you know, two kids that could one day run for office.
He's got a son-in-law that could run for office.
He's got a son that's 14 years old that's one day going to be the center of whatever.
But he could run for office.
He could run for office after he plays.
Listen, what happened to Kennedy?
Legacy Beyond, you're saying.
No, these guys are not going to go away.
They're not going to go away.
Well, you know, I mean, the Hoover Institute, it's Stanford, very conservative organization, has been speaking out vociferously, saying that the liberal university system in America is killing free speech and the First Amendment.
And you know what, Patrick?
I think that there is an appetite to bring balance back into higher education in America such that it's not such a one-leaning way of thinking.
And parents, you know, I've got kids who will be going to university in a few years.
I completely applaud that.
Why pay all this money in tuition to send your child off to be brainwashed in one way?
I mean, theoretically, higher learning should teach them how to think for themselves and not be brainwashed.
So if something like that, I think, has tremendous appetite in the United States.
I agree.
So I'm thinking it's more university than I'm thinking it's about.
But what you're describing is a little bit more dignified than what I would expect from Trump.
So good for him if he's going to raise the bar for himself to start influencing the next generation of conservative thinkers in America.
We need that.
No, I, you won't, give me your, give me.
He's not a conservative thinker.
That's not his brand.
He will.
Look, listen, capitalism, Marxism, right?
Marxism is behind whose name?
A person's names, Karl Mark Marxism.
Trump is not about, I'm a conservative Republican.
Trump would much rather have a Trump system.
Yeah, Trumpism.
He is about that, right?
So he's not, it has to be branded around his business.
It's populism, isn't it?
Isn't it like bravado oppression?
I'm not sitting here telling you I don't understand this guy who he is.
I understand who Trump is.
I've been in business with people like Trump, and you don't mind having a guy like that on your camp.
You don't mind having a guy like that on your campus.
No, if you're going doing business, hell no.
You don't mind having a guy.
You're turned me up.
Not only business.
You would have loved a Democratic Trump.
That's true.
Who would be...
You guys are very quick to jump to conclusion.
If that guy was wearing your color jersey, you love him.
He's your guy.
Wait, Are you kidding me?
I got to do the big timeout right here because I support the person.
So what did I get for supporting the person when I was when I lived in New York City?
What did I get for supporting the person?
Because here comes Hillary Clinton running for the Senate in the state of New York.
And I'm like, I don't get that.
Not her state.
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
I was raised.
So there I go.
I go register.
I go register to vote, change my driver's license in the city of New York.
I go completely, knowing completely I'm wasting my vote, voting for this guy, Rick Lazio, who nobody's heard of anymore.
In New York?
Where is that?
In New York.
So I'd been living in New York for seven years.
The one thing New Yorkers kept saying is: Danielle, don't get rid of your Texas driver's license.
Don't ever, ever get a New York driver's license.
Don't ever vote in the state of New York.
You will get jury duty so fast your head spins within two weeks.
What do I get?
Jury duty.
But I didn't know who Rick Lazio was, but I did know that Hillary Clinton had no business being in the state of New York.
It wasn't her state.
So in order to vote against her, I went out and did my civic duty and registered as a Republican in the state of New York and went and voted for this Rick person just to make my statement to Hillary.
So don't ever pigeonhole me.
You never know.
Pigeonhole you with what?
With which part?
You just said if Trump.
I said to him.
I'm saying to him.
No, I don't put you as a.
He wasn't going at you.
I'm going at him.
I'm not going at you.
What I'm saying is that he's a much better Democrat.
What I'm saying is it's not about whether he would have made him a better Democrat or Republican.
All I'm saying is if Democrats had a Trump, they would adore him.
Who's the Democratic Trump?
Let's say Biden wins.
Cool.
He doesn't want to run for re-election.
But Democrats say, you know what?
Cuomo?
Who are you thinking is a Democrat?
I'm asking you.
Are you asking?
Yeah, I'm asking you.
Who's the Democratic Trump?
Well, you're not going to have many Democratic Trumps.
Bloomberg is not a Democratic Trump.
Bloomberg couldn't be.
Cuomo is not a Democratic Trump because he hasn't.
The only person that could be a Democratic Trump, the only person, and he's not as much of a true believer as Trump is, the only person that could is a Cuban.
The only person.
Mark Cuban.
He could.
Cuban could be a Democratic Trump.
What about like San Diego?
Not Rock.
By the way, how diplomatic is The Rock?
Hey, brother, let me tell you.
No, not diplomatic.
No, no, he's very diplomatic.
When it comes to politics, how diplomatic is Cuban?
He's pretty brash.
He's not exactly.
What I'm trying to say.
And he's a billionaire.
And he's a spoiler.
And he's a TV guy.
And he's a shark tanker.
The closest person is.
He's a big personality.
Yeah.
Not just a big personality, a person that's willing to go to war and likes the heat.
Okay, but he likes the heat.
But go back to your point.
Go back to your point because it's really important that we shape, not that we shape the thinking, but that we teach college-age kids how to think for themselves.
So I don't care.
I don't care what Trump is, if it's Trumpism that he's selling or conservatism.
That doesn't matter.
What we need in our university system is to get away from and to escape free of unilateral thinking.
It can't just be left, left, left, liberal, liberal, liberal in all of our universities and colleges because it's just a gigantic waste of money.
Let me tell you why I respect Trump.
I know this is the angle we were going.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here's our respect, Trump.
We asked about the obituary and legacy, what have you.
It's pretty clear that Biden has a very, very, very likely path to 270, right?
Think about who Biden was running against.
Biden was running against Trump.
Period.
Full stop.
Who is Trump running against?
Three major things.
Well, he was running against Biden and the DNC.
There's one.
He's running against COVID, a freaking pandemic.
And the third thing is he's running against the media.
So Trump is going against three very powerful entities.
And the pollsters.
Polsters, you might say.
And almost pulled it off.
And according to him, did pull it off.
So Trump's a fighter.
He's brash, no doubt.
There's a high likelihood he'll be back in 2024 just because I can see him getting super salty and just getting pumped up and getting riled up.
And like what he's saying in the last debate, I ran because of you, Joe Biden.
So he's going to look at what Joe Biden potentially does over the next four years and regroup.
If not, we'll see where the Republican Party goes to.
He's just going to have to lay off the big match.
He will not.
Let me tell you what's going to happen, what Obama did.
You know what Obama did?
Tell me.
The fact that Obama didn't stop trashing Trump after Trump got elected and do what Bush did to him, Trump is going to do to Obama a million times more.
Trump to Obama and Biden, both of them.
He's going to go at their throats non-stop for four years.
It's going to be at levels you've never seen before.
But Obama can just say one thing that Trump will.
Obama will be like, I was here for eight, buddy.
You were here for four.
Have a nice day.
You don't think Trump's going to get so heated just hearing that?
I'm double as good as you, buddy.
Do you not think Smack Talker?
Who's a better Smack Talker?
I think they're both good in a different way.
If you want to go down and dirty, Trump, if you want to go high and classy and well-worded, Obama.
I don't know.
What I'm saying is that.
Patrick, what happens when he's being offered a million dollars every time he stands in front of a podium?
What about it?
He takes it.
But what's your point, though?
You don't think there's any way that he'll take the former president dignified rallying?
No.
Hell no.
No.
No, because you're not paying him a million bucks to give that talk.
The key word there was dignified, Danielle.
You understand what I'm saying?
You're not giving a million dollars to give that speech.
If you want that speech, you give it to somebody else, not to him.
You're giving him the million dollars to come up and talk trash.
You're basically bringing them to the WWE.
You're giving him the money for that.
But it's about to be gangbusters.
And he loses.
Brother, there are certain people shouldn't lose.
There are certain opponents you don't want them to lose publicly.
You just don't.
Who else is on that list?
There's some people you do not want a tiger, an MJ.
You don't want certain competitors to lose.
What do you mean you don't want them to lose?
What does that mean?
If you're their opponent, you don't want to beat them and humanize.
Well, I'll tell you, there's 70-plus million people that would love to see him lose.
No, not the deal with that.
Not the voters, not the voters, the opponents.
The opponents, not the voters.
I still think that they want him to lose.
And they'll deal with the random people.
I don't disagree with you.
But I don't disagree.
Here's what I don't think Biden's going to do.
I don't think Biden is going to go at Trump's throat.
I don't think Biden will go.
I don't think Biden has it in his DNA to be able to do that.
I think Kamala will.
I think Kamala will.
I don't think Biden will.
I don't think Biden will.
I think Kamala will.
Do you think Biden will have an opportunity to potentially at some point pardon Trump?
Pardon Trump?
I think that's a.
Where are you going with that, Danielle?
Yeah, exactly.
So that's the same thing.
There are hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts that become due that are presumably in a holding pattern as long as he's still president.
Well, I mean, his taxes are still under audit.
No, no, I'm not talking about his taxes.
She's not talking taxes.
She's talking about other things.
But listen, to say pardon, you have to have things to pardon.
You know, that's a technical question you're asking.
Danielle, answer your question.
It's like when you're going to stop beating your wife, you know, type of a thing.
That's automatically putting the guy as beating his wife.
So I get what you did right there, but all I'm saying to you is this guy is not a guy you want to lose.
And we're all going to see how he's going to lose.
If he is who I think he really is, shit's about to go down.
Here's another question.
Games, games, we're playing games.
2024: Who is more likely to win the presidency, more likely or be the candidate?
Yeah, likely Pence Don Jr.
Who do you got?
Who's going to be Pence?
Well, I certainly- Presidential.
I'm just saying who's more likely to win.
To win.
I mean, there's so much that we have to get through in the next few years.
I think midterms are going to be.
We're playing a game here.
Neither of them could be around at all.
If you're saying most likely to win a presidential election, Don Jr. or Mike Pence, 2024.
Oh, gosh.
Mike Pence by a country mile.
You think so?
To do what?
To win, to win.
if one of those two people i will i tell you i agree with daniel because the next two years is going to say a lot we're going to learn a lot about the next two years Lots of weird things are going on with America and the world right now.
You've got a lot of things that have been on the sidelines.
We haven't dealt with what's going to happen with China, with the sanctions on China, sanctions on Iran.
Venezuela is still on the table.
Brexit is still going on.
COVID is still going on.
Russia is still going on.
Armenia is going on.
Iran's too much.
Iran's going on.
Turkey's going on.
Do you know how many things are going on?
So there's going to be things going on non-stop.
What I'm trying to say to you is the next, and by the way, on top of that, Congress, Senate, tax raise, two years.
If they lose house, now both they don't have the House and the Senate.
It's going to be a lot of moving parts.
I think that I'm genuinely focused on these midterms.
Midterms?
How are we talking about midterms right now?
We're not even past the election yet.
Focus on 2022 and midterms.
Let's talk to the entrepreneurs, Danielle.
I think this is somewhere where you can help the entrepreneurs and the folks that are making over $400,000 and the people that are job creators and the people that are running businesses.
Biden's taxes.
You are assuming that he's going to get these taxes past midterms.
That's exactly what I'm asking you.
So what I'm asking you is to the people that are listening, saying 21 to 28 corporate, 20 to 39 six capital gains, the additional 12.3 on Social Security.
Will that pass in 2021?
No.
When will that pass?
When?
Look, it's going to depend on how bad the economy gets.
And what Mitch McConnell's about to do could be a big mistake.
So he's going to insist on a really small stimulus package because he right now is running a victory lap.
For schools, hospitals, and small businesses.
You name it.
I see where you're going.
So he right now, we held the line.
We were fiscally conservative coming into this election.
We held the Senate.
We were rewarded for being typical, true conservative Republicans.
But unfortunately, the economy really could care less about that because of the depth of permanent joblessness that we're seeing.
I mean, we've got this morning we had new data out.
We've got 2.3 million people who've lost their jobs, permanently lost their jobs.
Layoff announcements continue to come.
All of a sudden, corporate America's woken up.
Nike corporations like, you know what?
We got all these middle managers.
Let's cut them out.
There goes 700 people in Beaverton, Oregon.
Yesterday in Austin, Texas, a big tech company was like, you know what?
We've got too many middle managers.
Off go 650.
So there are underlying economic impediments to fiscally conservative paths that Mitch McConnell might try and hold the line on.
But I do think when it comes to taxes, good luck.
Meaning they're not changing.
The compromise that you would potentially contemplate, I think it will be very easy.
Again, if Biden stays centrist, I think you'll maintain that low and competitive, thank you very much, corporate tax rate.
And I just, again, Nancy Pelosi does not have the same stronghold on the House of Representatives that she did before this election.
So I think something like a capital gains tax is going to be really, really difficult, again, as you're seeing white-collar layoffs, people making $400,000 a year and losing their jobs.
Stimulus will never touch them, but they can do damage to the economy.
So what is and is not done in Congress, I just published 4,500 words about infrastructure spending in America.
If they're smart and they do something immediately that creates jobs, new jobs, creates jobs.
You've got construction workers, construction projects being canceled left, right, and in between.
Houston's the worst city in America right now.
By the way, Dallas is the best.
We're growing the fastest.
I think you're, I absolutely agree with you.
But if you are smart about infrastructure spending, and if I'm Mitch McConnell and Biden says, I want a trillion dollars, I want a half trillion dollars for all the band-aids and all the social programs that need immediate assistance.
But if I'm McConnell, I'm saying I want a half trillion dollars for infrastructure spending immediately so that the Republicans can start to say that they passed smart stimulus that put people back to work.
And because it's all going to come out in the wash because it looks like the Republican lead in the Senate is also going to be skinnier after that Democratic seat flipped overnight.
Real quick, Danielle, I see Fox News is reporting that Biden is at 264.
It's been that way for 24 hours.
That means USA Today and Fox is saying 264 that he won Arizona.
He's basically saying he won Arizona.
He won't Nevada.
All he needs is just Nevada.
Yeah, it's just Nevada.
Nevada is a difference of 8,000, right?
Is that the number?
7,500, something like that.
Our good friend Kai over there brought up a really good point.
And I'm not going to say who he voted for, but what he did say was that he hopes that if Biden wins, if Biden wins, he wins by more than 270, meaning he wants him to get the 300.
He doesn't want it to be like razor-thin for the country, meaning he wants him to win Pennsylvania, Georgia, just so it's not a freaking question.
Again, Pennsylvania.
For all the fraudulent people out there, it's a fraud.
It's a this, it's a that.
You said there's been a thousand cases of voter fraud in the last 40 years.
So for all our conspiracy theorists out there, I hope you're listening.
But there's a bigger issue than voter fraud if he gets Pennsylvania.
And right now, again, Pennsylvania, Vegas is saying 85% probability that he's going to get Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is the one place where having another Supreme Court justice in his corner could, but before the election, see, Pennsylvania changed the law to say that they could count ballots for longer than they used to.
That's different.
In some states, you had to count them on that day and report them, and that was it.
Sale valley.
Sale valley.
But there's one place that Trump could take that because three, one, two, three Supreme Court justices said, you know what?
This could be a violation of the Constitution, what the state of Pennsylvania is doing.
We could revisit this.
Yes, I saw that.
And that's three Supreme Court justices, but now there's a fourth.
So in theory, though, then you would still have a hung court.
You would still have four to four.
When do you think we're going to know for a fact that the transition from Trump to Biden, if Biden were to win?
How soon do you think that could happen?
I think that if he wins Nevada and Arizona is validated elsewhere, I think he's in.
Because that extra 16 in Pennsylvania, it won't make a difference if other people call Arizona and he gets Nevada.
Does this have any merit here?
And this is according to our research here.
There are laws in every state that grant local officials days or even weeks.
Deadlines vary from state to state to canvas and certify election results.
Here's the date.
States technically have until December 8th, which is known as Safe Harbor, as a deadline to fully certify results.
So there's nothing that says everything has to be in on Tuesday, November 3rd.
The deadline, quote-unquote, safe harbor is December 8th.
Where does that factor in?
But again, I don't think that most people calling states are calling states unless they feel that they have a comfortable margin.
How familiar are you with the 14th Amendment?
Oh, gosh.
The 14th Amendment allows the president to strip electoral college, votes from states supporting censorship against voters, enables mass arrests of mayors, governors, and judges who support BLM, D.C. dirty laundry.
So that's one thing that's coming out in Article 6, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
When a state fails to hold free and fair elections, then the Republican form of government, that state has been compromised, interfering, or manipulating a federal election is a conspiracy against the Constitution.
And people, executive authority, which is the president of the United States, has been charged with the faithful execution of all laws pursuant to the Constitution and also the Constitution itself that is caps because it's critical.
So that's the angle that Giuliani wants to take right now.
I don't know if you saw Giuliani's talk yesterday.
But that's the fraud angle.
Right, if they go to fraud angle.
But you have to know that he has the Supreme Court if he takes that angle.
If he takes that angle, because there is a, did you hear Juliana's speech yesterday?
I did, but.
Did you hear Juliana's speech yesterday?
He was.
He was livid.
And you know Trump's a litigious guy.
I don't think we're going to find out the transition is going to be very soon.
I think it's going to take some time.
I don't think it's going to be as quickly as January 20th.
Giuliani can jump to the city.
That's when he has to leave office.
That's when the new president is sworn in.
Is that what it is?
21st is inauguration day.
I'm not sure.
January 20th?
Yeah.
Giuliani can be as livid as he can.
The court has discretion on whether or not to hear anything.
When is Giuliani not ever livid?
What the court has said it would reconsider does not have to do with what Giuliani is bringing up.
It has to do with the fact that the Pennsylvania, the state of Pennsylvania, changed the law to allow for the counting of the votes for three days after the election.
That's what the Supreme Court is willing.
Three justices have said that they're open to revisiting that.
Every other fraud type of case that has come before the Supreme Court.
Wisconsin as well, though.
They're doing Wisconsin because it's less than 1%.
No, that has nothing to do with the Supreme Court.
That has to do with re-the-deal with recast.
I agree.
I agree.
What I'm saying is that.
So what I'm saying is that the Supreme Court has pushed every other case, especially those related to fraud.
They've pushed them out and said, no, we're not hearing the case.
So the only one that I know of that the Supreme Court will hear and has said publicly we would consider this has to do nothing with fraud.
Yeah.
So and the challenge is if they go, because you know back in 2020, they just went one state, Florida, because they didn't want to say this state, because you negotiated it this way, that applies to this state.
So they're just, they're suggesting going multiple states may not help Trump.
But if it's close, he goes one state, he can flip it.
Yes.
But if it's two, three, four states, it may hurt him and backfire on him.
So it'd be interesting to see what happens.
By the way, a few different things business-wise.
You're watching how people are reacting, how the market reacts.
The Bezos selling off $3 billion of shares of Amazon.
You're seeing some of those things.
What are you noticing?
You said Nike letting go of some middle management.
How is the economy going to respond to a Biden economy?
How's the market going to respond to a Biden?
The market's up big today, and it was up big yesterday.
It was, yeah.
So, like, meaning they think that Biden's winning, and it has not slowed down the market.
I think they like the Senate being gridlocked, and they're liking that.
The market is buying grids.
Taxes are not changing, is what they're saying.
There we go.
You had the largest one-day decrease in the nation's borrowing costs since February, I want to say.
So that was the borrowing cost of the nation, bond yields were very elevated, elevated, elevated.
Yeah.
coming in because of the potential for a blue wave and some massive multi-trillion dollar stimulus package being signed into law by Valentine's Day.
That was the concern.
So you're seeing the market price back in gridlock and a much lesser degree of stimulus.
That's not going to affect how corporate America behaves with regards to its workforce at all.
How corporate America is going to behave with regards to its workforce has only to do with the coronavirus right now.
And how everything is.
Everything is up today.
And how that affects consumption.
Dow, S ⁇ P, NASDAQ, the Russell 2000, Bitcoin's up, Gold's up, Disney's up, Apple's up.
It's all up.
Facebook's up.
Google's up.
Tesla's up.
Which is actually.
Norwegian Cruise Lines, which hasn't been up in like nine months, isn't it?
And they did, they just got the most important one, obviously.
And they just got to take a look at it.
We got to go on a cruise after that.
Those guys.
Right now, right now, you've got a lot of positioning in markets.
There's a lot of noise in the markets right now.
I think.
Wait until we have a decided.
I got three other things before we wrap up.
I got a flight to get to, and everybody's texting me.
I know I got a flight.
I fully get it.
I'm going to go 10 more minutes and I'm going to try to make my flight.
Okay.
So one is Uber.
Good news, California Prop 22 win inside of an independent contractor.
So it means Uber and Lyft drivers will stay as independent contractors in the state of California.
That's very, very good.
Please talk about that, Pat.
Why you feel so give us your thoughts on why you're happy that it went that far?
I'm very happy because that just means that the model of being an independent contractor is not going to be threatened in the state of California for other people.
I think Byron, you tell when he was sitting right here in Danielle's chair, he talked about if you do that, you're going to have to do that to eBay independent contractors.
Everybody's, you have to turn them to W-2.
It's a phenomenal thing.
Grubhub, but it's a great thing.
It's great for the state of California.
It's great for the state of California.
The other thing is minimum wage in the state of Florida went to $15 by 2026.
And that, to be honest with you, is a little concerning to say, hey, we're going straight to $15 by 2026.
What do you think about that?
Look, it's barely going to keep up with the cost of living adjustments.
And we were speaking about this yesterday.
Major U.S. corporations, whether you're talking about Walmart or McDonald's, they've already moved.
They've already crossed that line in order to retain and keep good employees.
So because it's a graduated stair step, I'm not too terribly concerned about it.
I would be a lot more concerned had we had a blue wave and there was discussions of a federal minimum wage being implemented in the next one or two years.
I think that one state after another, we will see it.
What?
We saw 19 states come in a few years ago all at once.
So I think we're on our way.
I think Floridians did this in a decisive way, such that it, again, is just $1 a year to become competitive with your local Walmart.
And by the way, to be honest with you, like here, when I sit with my accountants every time, I think we have one employee with us that makes less than $15.
I think one.
It's like $1,350, one of our employees.
And you know the minimum wage in Texas is $7.25 or $75.
It's like so.
I mean, how the hell do you live off of $7?
You don't.
You don't, right?
You have to be a 16-year-old kid to be able to live off of that.
But I think the federal part, if they do that across the country, that hurts places like Arkansas.
That hurts South Dakotas.
I mean, you can't do 15 out everywhere.
There are.
Those small businesses are going to take Florida.
Okay.
I can see 2020.
You did an Austin, awesome how-to episode of the board about having a minimum wage, a living wage.
What's your biggest takeaway with that?
Exactly what I just said.
You can't do it across the board.
You heard it.
If the federal minimum wage, what is the federal minimum wage?
Is it $7.25?
I think it is $7.25.
If they raise federal minimum wage in the next two to four years to $8, $9, okay, whatever.
If they do federal to $15, you're not going to feel it.
We're not going to feel it.
But I will tell you, millions of people.
Oh, buddy, they're going to feel it.
And all it's going to do if they do that, Walmart in South Dakota wins.
Okay, right.
A target in Arkansas wins.
The small Johnny's little market that's been on for 73 years goes out of business.
The big dogs can afford it.
They don't understand that increasing the federal minimum wage, you're putting small business owners out of business.
It's not as sexy as it sounds.
It doesn't affect California, doesn't affect Florida, doesn't affect Illinois, doesn't affect New York, but it does affect big states and big cities.
What's interesting is the opposite trend right now.
So if you're a Silicon Valley worker and you've been working in that most expensive area of the world around San Francisco, San Jose, and you decide to go relocate somewhere because you work at a company that said you can work from home indefinitely, Silicon Valley is decreasing your salary right now, depending on where you've moved to.
So it's interesting that that's how California companies are behaving.
So they get the whole it, there's a different cost of living depending on where you live, part.
But do you think California will see a Republican governor anytime soon or not?
Oh, gosh.
I mean, it's going to melt off into the ocean at some point with those finances.
So that's a no, I would assume.
I would think that would be a no.
What about that post you did on Instagram with those entrepreneurs that came up with the drone?
It's phenomenal.
Let me do the last one here before we wrap up.
Let me do the last one before we wrap up.
So I have one.
Anywhere Patrick is laughing.
It's actually not a gotcha type of a thing.
I'm just wondering, like, you know, Joe Biden gives a speech.
Okay.
And you have to know that a lot of people who, for the longest time, have been in politics are sitting there saying, this freaking guy's going to be the 46th president.
I'm better than him.
I cannot believe this guy's going to be the president.
One person in America, I'm wondering how you think she's doing.
Hillary Clinton.
How do you think she's doing knowing a Joe Biden?
She has to call him.
Do you think she's even saltier?
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Wait, let me get this straight.
So you think Kamala's a VP.
Kamala beat Hillary Clinton.
You have to realize it's like to her, it's like that cannot happen.
I'm more qualified.
How is Hillary doing right now?
Yeah, but there's expletives in between.
She's the most notorious sailor potty mouth in the world.
That's a joke.
She's probably angry today than she was four years ago.
How do you think she's feeling?
I think there's part of her that's saying, still like, really?
Like, dude, like, I was so qualified.
I was so prepared, you know, but I think she came to terms.
Look, people didn't like me all that much.
She corrupted her own DNC.
You know, that she's got to feel good if Trump loses.
She's got to get she's going to have the last laugh.
Like we talked about at the top of the show: Democrats came together, whether you believe that or not.
Trump's going to say, Dude, I became a president, you didn't.
What are you talking about?
That ends as well.
And she'll say, well, my husband was there eight years.
My Secretary of State for Obama for 10 times more ambitious.
Where on earth do you think her ego fits into citing her husband?
I mean, she's got four years to.
You really can't really.
You know, they were both road scholars, right?
And she believes she's smart.
Let's flip it.
Sweetheart.
Okay, let's flip it.
Let's flip it.
Who did Hillary vote for?
What do you mean, who did Hillary?
Of course.
She voted for a Biden.
What's your point?
So my point is, she wanted Biden to win.
She qualifies for what's your point.
She wants one of those buttons you pray.
You just said press the ball.
You think she held her nose and voted for Biden?
No, she get it.
She went to the she voted.
She filled it or mailed it.
The Libertarian came in.
And Alexander Joseph just gave 10 bucks saying they found nine states with voter fraud, and they found these states have more votes than registered voters.
So, look, I don't think it's over.
By the way, can you double-check to see what Vegas is?
Has it changed at all?
Is it still at 15%?
Still at 15%.
Is it still at 15%?
Trump having a chance to win.
Let's see.
Did you check it?
Yeah, I just checked it.
You just checked it right now.
So in the last 90 minutes, it has not changed.
The chances of Trump winning according to Vegas odds is 15%.
Biden's odds to defeat Trump remain steady.
And they are currently 84.9%, 85% to 15%.
84.9%.
85 to 15.
That's the number.
85 to 15.
Last night it was 90-10.
That's the best.
So it has increased.
Just to put it, to put it in perspective, you know, we know that Trump barely sleeps.
When he went to bed, when Trump went to bed, this would have been Tuesday night, he was 75% chance likely to win.
And he woke up and he was 25% chance likely to win.
Talk about a shitty night's sleep.
But that move overnight from 10, 15, 10% to 15%, that is lingering Arizona uncertainty.
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You know Pat's got to catch a flight.
He's got his private jet sitting outside warming up on the runway and then he's going to jump out of here.
But I know that Pat appreciates your is your private chat outside as well, Danielle.
All kinds of fired up.
Yeah, just like the one that the Roadrunner uses on the cartel.
Thank you for coming down and giving your perspective.
