Election Night Marathon on the Bet-David Podcast | EP 22
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Matt got on a phone and got here literally 30 minutes ago.
We're excited to have you.
Great beer.
Okay, let me lower this audio with the podcast.
We also have with us Adam Sauce.
We have Tom Zenner back here.
And last but not least, an old friend who hasn't been on for a while.
The one and only BizDoc Tom Ellsworth is here to be a guest.
If you're a valuatainer, remember the case studies, you obviously know who Tom Ellsworth, BizDoc, aka.
What was the famous noise he used to make?
You used to say what?
What was that one thing you used to do?
There is a word for that.
And the word is damn!
So anyways, okay, so we got a lot to do.
We got a lot to cover today.
Matt, Tom, one of the things you may want to do is you may want to come here so angle-wise as a form.
Roger that.
We're going to make some calls, right?
We're going to call a few people.
I know, Tom, you got some friends.
Wendy Birch will call who she works at.
Maybe tell us who's going to be who's going to be able to do it.
Yeah, sure.
Okay, so let's get someone on the street.
Some reporter.
She's an anchor and reporter in L.A. Been covering it for years, been all over the election.
She was in the polling places.
She covered the riots this summer.
Great perspective.
Grant Woods, he's on the air right now in Phoenix, but he's two-time attorney general in the state of Arizona.
He was John McCain's first campaign manager, Attorney General of the Year.
But his background, he was Republican, and then he flipped because after McCain and Trump had that thing, so he completely flipped.
He'll probably run for the present project guy.
We'll find out.
We'll find out.
He'll probably run for governor or senator next, but he'll have great perspective.
Been in the media for years.
And then more people, just professional people.
I have a plastic surgeon friend in Beverly Hills and some people in New York, so we'll get a good perspective.
Awesome.
And then we're going to have Dennis Prager, which we'll call on tonight.
Dennis Prager is winning.
Wow.
And maybe a few other calls.
And we got a lot of things to go through today.
So Tom, how you been, Tom?
We miss you.
Tomorrow.
How's Tom being?
I've been great.
How you been?
Very good.
You've been doing great.
I'm looking at 2.4 million subscribers.
2.6.
Where you been last time?
2.6.
Let's go, Tom.
I read his Twitter bio because that's usually his last time.
He updates that.
I got updated.
That's a good reminder to update it.
But Tom and I had a good lunch yesterday.
Was it yesterday or no?
Was it two days ago or yesterday?
I thought it was yesterday.
What is today?
Today is Tuesday or Wednesday?
Tuesday.
Oh, my God.
This is not normal.
This is not normal.
You know what's crazy to think about?
This is Wednesday.
This podcast is really late.
We should all be the president.
Think what a strange experience this is for Trump and Biden.
Because Trump wants to control everything.
That's why he does all these rallies.
He can touch people and he can move people and everything.
He has control.
Biden, does he stay up past 9 o'clock on election day?
I mean, is it sleepy time for him?
That was a good one, Tom.
He's an idiot over here.
Something tells me he'll be up tonight.
And Sleepy Joe will be just drowsy, Joe until about midnight.
Then he'll wait to see what happens.
I wonder how his reaction is going to be.
So let's just say Biden wins.
Let's say in a perfect world, Utopia, this guy wins.
Okay.
And he wins.
What's his reaction?
Is he like, oh my gosh, babe, I can't believe it.
And he stays up for four hours.
And then you're like, it'll go to the bottom.
Yeah, this is awesome.
I got to go to sleep.
I feel like he's going to be like, babe, hold on.
Take out the Viagra.
Take out the Viagra.
We're going to put on my shades.
Bang, bang.
And then, you know, I don't know what he's going to do.
I think he's going to say, President Harris, we did it.
Where's my check?
President Harris?
I'm out.
Okay, where's my check?
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We got whiskey, we got beer, we got food, we got a lot of different things up.
We got cigars too.
We got cigarettes.
We got cigars.
We got a lot of things going on.
So as of right now, as of right now, with everything that's gone on the last week, two weeks, right?
People are coming out.
You're seeing Biden in the last week he's been campaigning and some call it campaigning and Trump's been campaigning 14 stops in the last three days going back and forth.
How are you feeling how Trump is doing?
How do you feel how Biden's doing?
That's on me now.
Anybody can take it.
Trump is obviously out there as if COVID does not exist and just one big rally.
You've got to respect that he is making the final push.
He's going all over the country, every state, every city doing this, doing that.
You don't necessarily need your mask.
Did you see what he said to Laura Ingram?
What do you say?
She was wearing a mask.
We all know who Laura Ingram is, right?
Big time Fox personality.
She was wearing a mask at a rally.
And he looked at her and he's like, oh, look at you with the mask.
Like, fake news, fake media over here.
Like, gave her a hard time because she was wearing a mask.
Shame on her.
That's where we're at right now.
Donald Trump is making fun of Fox personalities for wearing a mask in the middle of a rally.
What about the fact that he was drawing about 20,000 per rally?
I think you have to put some stock into that.
In the last week, what he did, those crowds, how can you look at that and think that Biden has the momentum?
I mean, you just can't.
Fake enthusiasm.
You can't.
That passion is real.
And I think what the experts are saying, too, is that a lot of the Republicans are voting the day of.
So I think we're going to see these numbers changing quickly.
It's going to be interesting to see the media's reaction.
They've done everything they can to help Biden along the way, including encouraging people probably not to go out and vote today.
So it's just going to be interesting to see what they do, if they're going to report actually what's happening.
And we've got a cross-section of the newscast here.
How much do you think the attendance matters?
Does that matter?
How much of that matters?
We were talking about that yesterday.
I'm curious.
You and I talked about it, so let's hear them.
Obviously, I haven't brought it up to them.
I'm curious to know what they're going to say.
How much do you think attendance at these rallies matter?
You know, when Trump brings crowds and Biden brings cars, right?
There's a different experience when everybody's in line for the movie versus everybody in their own individual vehicle.
What I'm seeing, and especially when our events, we have a lot of flow.
We have a people flow.
There's a different kind of understanding about what's going on, a different energy and action when you connect with people, you feel the spirit, you feel the energy, versus just watching it online or watching it for a business.
So I think what that's going to translate to is people getting more proactive.
The word of mouth is going to start getting out there.
Just our video guys at the office, they've been calling their folks.
Hey, we need to make sure we vote.
Did you vote yet?
No.
Did you go and vote?
No, go register today.
I wasn't planning on voting.
Go register today.
Go vote.
So that's what the people flow, the energy is causing people to do.
I got to give one of my writers at VTPost.com, Corey Williams, credit for a good line.
He said these rallies, it looks like Trump is running for president of the United States, and Joe Biden is running for mayor of Radiator Springs.
You know, having the cars up there, it's like, sorry, you don't have kids.
That's what it looks like with all the cars.
You can't see Biden without a mask either.
I think it's a focus group.
I totally think it's a great question.
It's a last week focus group of what's going on in this country and the enthusiasm.
It's worse than that.
When he doesn't do the car rallies and he's just got the white circles on the ground, it looks like he's in the Richmond's backyard.
And he's got that little podium and a little thing there, and there's nobody standing around.
And you look at it.
Do you think it matters?
Do you think it matters?
I think it matters a lot.
I think that was the part.
And somebody help me out here.
Who was the reporter?
It was the Reuters reporter that traveled with the Trump train the last week of the prior election and came back and said, there's something going on here because I'm seeing nothing but enthusiasm.
And we all know, you know, Hillary never visited Wisconsin, all the things that went with that.
But I think there was palpable there for certain in the media that were willing to look at everything.
And there was one, this woman went out and went out and saw everything and came back and said, listen, I'm sold out for Hillary like anybody else is on this side.
But what I just saw makes me nervous.
Yeah, she was right.
Adam, what do you think?
I mean, let's be honest here.
Trump is a rock star.
You might not like the music that he's playing, half of America, but he is a rock star.
Biden is a folk singer, right?
I mean, you also might not like the music he's playing, but he's just doing his thing.
If there wasn't a freaking worldwide pandemic going on right now, and this was actually the rally sizes, it'd be extremely sad, the difference.
But, like, obviously, what's sad to me is that the virus and the mask concept has gotten so politicized that if you agree with masks, you must be a liberal Democrat.
And if you are anti-mask, you must be a right-wing Republican.
Are you saying that without the pandemic, Biden is drawing crowds?
That would dwarf Trump's?
I don't think that's what I said at all, Tom.
What I am saying is that the reason why it's so different is because there is a pandemic.
If Biden were to have rallies, he would clearly need the Jay-Zs of the world, the rocks of the world, the lady gagas of the world to show up.
Nobody's showing up because they're excited for Joe.
I voted for Joe Biden, not because I'm excited for Joe Biden.
The majority of people voted for Joe Biden because they're unexcited about Trump.
Make no mistake about what I'm saying.
No, no, it's not that they're unexcited about him.
It's not that they hate him.
It's not that they're unexcited about him.
It's because they hate him.
Right?
Hate's a strong word, but there's a lot of people that do hate him.
Yeah.
There's a lot.
I mean, look, look at what's going on around every city in America.
They're boarding up the White House.
They're boarding up every city.
Everybody's boarding up.
Say what you want about Trump, what he's done for businesses, taxes, legislation, the wall, respect.
He's getting the job done.
Like Pat has said, he's true to his word.
He's kept his word.
But what he has also done is made our country more divided.
I'll argue with you all day if you don't think that he has made our country more divided.
Respect.
He's done what he said he was going to do.
He's built the wall.
Something that the Democrats say, build bridges, not walls.
Trump's a wall guy.
He's a building guy.
It is what it is.
If he gets re-elected, I really hope American people can come together and get along.
But he has shown us nothing other than trying to play to his base and win in that direction.
Totally disagree.
Totally disagree.
Why do you think Ice Cube and Lil Wayne and some of these other rappers, I mean, he's not trying to do that?
The media and people who hate him so much cannot get past it and they can't look past that.
So you disagree with what exactly?
Because two black people are not.
I think you're saying that you're saying that all blacks should support him.
I just disagree that his intent is to divide people.
I don't think it's a one- What proof do you have that he's trying to unite people?
I didn't know I had to come here with united proof.
I mean, I don't have to.
Oh, you don't have to have the project.
I don't have any proof of on me right now.
I'm just simply saying that's just too easy of an answer.
What do you have for divide?
What do I have for divide?
What do you have for divide?
There's fine people on both sides.
Mexicans are rapists.
The retarded reporter.
He said some of them.
Some of them, sure.
Rapists.
Not Mexicans are rapists.
Listen, there's a lot of things that you can say about Trump.
A lot of good, a lot of bad.
There's not a lot you can say that he is the uniter in chief.
But when is that the qualifier?
What is that the specification?
Let's use an example for someone that I think the majority of this table will respect.
General Mattis.
Did you not interview General Mattis?
I didn't interview General Mattis.
Matt Sopilot interviewed General Mattis.
General Mattis said the one thing that is so poignant.
He said he's the first president in our lifetime, does not seek to what?
To unify.
To unify our country.
This is the general.
This was not, what's this, like...
Oh, yeah, he's not.
Trust at least his word.
So am I going to believe what General Mattis has to say, who's worked with him, or Tom basically saying, what proof?
That's the proof.
One guy.
The general that worked with him?
You would have to come back.
If you're watching this, who do you agree with?
You agree with Matt or you agree with Adam or you agree with Tom?
I'm actually curious.
Let me explain to where I'm going with this.
I'm genuinely asking to know if audience size, Tom, you're somebody that watches stuff regularly.
You've been watching this stuff.
The last election, you and I stayed up till I don't know what time it was, 3 o'clock in the morning, and we're going through the whole thing.
I interviewed Alan Lickman.
Remember Alan Lickman, the interview where he said he predicted that Biden's going to win.
I don't remember the exact score he gave.
He said 8-5 or 9-5.
Oh, the guy that you just said.
Yeah, the one that predicted.
7-6, 7-6.
7-6 or 8-5.
I thought it was 8-5.
You gave it 8-5.
I gave it 9-4 is what I gave it.
Here's the 13 keys he gave, and I actually like the keys that he gave.
He got eight straight right.
Okay, he's gotten eight of these right because he studied it with the earthquake expert from Russia.
Russia.
Right?
And that's kind of how the story came about.
He said party mandate is one of them.
After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives than the previous midterm elections.
That's good true.
Contest.
There's no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination, incumbency, third party short-term economy, long-term economy, policy change, social unrest scandal, foreign military failure, foreign military success, incumbent charisma, challenger charisma, and you go based on the score.
The thing I didn't see here is crowd.
Like, I'm actually really curious.
Does it really matter?
Like, remember in 04, 08, Obama's running against McCain.
Okay?
And you're sitting there.
People are saying there's no way in the world McCain's resume is going to lose to Obama's resume.
One term president, one term senator, gives an insane talk, this guy's going to become a president.
There's no way in the world.
And then you saw the crowds.
McCain couldn't get 5,000 people in an arena, 2,500 people in an arena.
Biden, Obama, 20,000, 30,000, 25,000.
Screaming.
Same type of excitement that you see now.
Romney didn't have that.
McCain didn't have that.
Look, you have to make an effort to go to one of these rallies.
I mean, the people in Omaha that were stranded, I heard personal stories of people that had to walk back from the airport back home.
It was a mess.
So you've got to really give up your night, give up part of your week, and go do this.
It's a sacrifice.
And I think that shows what you're willing to do and how strongly you're taking your vote and what you feel about one particular candidate.
So it's a litness test.
If there is a useful time for the pandemic and people aren't going to work, whatever, they have now time to rally and be part of this crowd.
Whereas Obama, when I was in Chicago, people were coming out to work.
It was a different crowd.
It was more of an inspirational, you know, first time ever make history.
This type of crowd, what I'm looking at is like, whoa, our country is being attacked right now.
We need to stand up for this.
We need to protect our country.
We need to stand up for what we believe in.
That's a different energy as to this group.
But it's still a crowd.
It's still an energy that still brings.
And if there's some similarities, it is.
But don't you think these people that are showing up, they're already voting for him.
They're not being swayed.
Like, how many independents?
But the question becomes for you to follow.
I have no, I'm not solving for anything.
The only thing I'm solving for is doesn't have any kind of weight.
Okay.
For sure.
But just how much?
How many people are voting for Biden that are not showing up?
A lot.
So why are they not showing up?
Showing up where?
Showing up anywhere.
Obama goes the other day to campaign for him.
25 people showed up.
Lady Gaga's doing anything.
How many people showed up to see Obama?
When he was running?
No, no, just now.
Nobody.
Okay.
So there's a case example.
You have somebody that can draw crowds.
Yes or no, Obama.
Would people vote for him?
For Obama.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
He can draw crowds for him.
Guys, how are we not like, there's a freaking pandemic going on?
So what is the what?
You don't know that there's a penalty.
I don't know about that.
Listen, I talked to a guy, an attorney from Germany.
I called him.
He was in Germany.
I did the Zoom interview with him.
This is a guy that came up with, Kai, did we talk to him this week or last week?
Last week, right on Thursday or Friday.
What's his first name?
Filming, something like that.
Anyways, I talked to this guy and him and Robert Kennedy Jr. held an event in Germany.
You know how many people showed up in Germany a month ago?
70,000 people showed up in Germany.
70,000 people showed up for Robert Kennedy and this guy to say that the pandemic, what they're doing in Germany, is out of control.
For the UK to say they're shutting down for four weeks and they're shutting all these other, it's absolutely out of control what they're doing.
What was the guy's name?
Reiner.
Reiner.
Reiner Reiner is the guy that we talked to.
But you know, this is how I process it.
The way I process it is this.
Okay.
So if you're my fighter, okay, and you go up against Tom Zenner, okay?
You guys go fight, you're the same match, but Tom is 28 and 2.
Okay?
You're 12 and oh.
You're coming up.
Okay?
You haven't yet fought anybody big.
I put you in the ring with Tom.
You beat him.
No one thought you were going to beat Tom.
Tom is supposed to win because Tom's going for, what do you call a heavyweight fight, right?
So then you're now fighting Matt, hypothetically.
Matt is 16 and 9.
Okay?
I mean, Hillary Clinton, Biden.
So if Trump is going against Hillary Clinton, he's drawing audiences, 25,000, 30,000, 40,000 people.
Then he gets up, he says, I'm going to put the wall up.
I'm going to get rid of Obamacare.
I'm going to help relationships with the UAE and with Israel.
I'm going to put sanctions on China.
He's been saying China for 20, 30 years, that China's been ripping America off for a long time.
There's not going to be any war.
I'm going to go figure this thing out with Putin and North Korea.
They say, oh, can you trust a man that has the finger to the nuclear, you know, and there's going to be war.
We have to be so worried about it.
Nothing happened.
He kept all his promises.
So whether you like his promises or not, they're irrelevant.
He kept all his promises.
Then, here's what happens: how many Republicans, Tom, you think, both times, how many Republicans you think in 2016 didn't like Trump and didn't vote for him?
I'd say whip of voters.
Republicans.
The voters.
How many voters said, you know what?
I'm just not voting for this guy.
So I'm either sitting it out or I'm going to vote for Clinton because I think Hitler is going to be okay.
A fair amount.
A fair amount.
Would you agree with that?
Quantify a fair amount.
If you would.
Okay, without an.
I don't think a lot.
I think they would sit out.
I'm not saying you've got like a document.
No, but I'm simply saying, I think they would be more inclined to sit it out as opposed to vote for Hillary.
So that was the data.
Tell us.
I think it was barely 5%.
Well, 5% is a lot.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
But there were barely 5% because there were never Trumpers back then because the entire establishment was turned on its head.
Right?
Jeb ran a terrible campaign.
We can just tick him off.
Everything, all the candidates are, oh, well, if Jeb's out, then Marco Rubio is going to take all the oxygen out of the room.
Didn't.
Didn't, didn't he, right?
And they all fell.
One at a time, they fell.
And all those debates kept getting smaller, and the red-haired guy is still in the middle, still there.
There is about 5% that were absolutely never Trumpers.
We may never know this.
Do you think Megan Kelly voted for Trump?
No chance.
Do you think Megan Kelly voted for Trump in 2016?
No freaking way.
Okay, she's a Republican.
Correct.
That's what I'm saying.
So watch.
She's also established.
What I'm trying to tell you.
And by the way, forget Megan Kelly today.
Four years ago, Megan Kelly's on TV every day.
She is the Tucker Carlson four years ago.
She did the first debate.
Of course she did the first debate.
She was the one that opened it up with Rosie O'Donnell.
So watch this.
So go to 2016.
You're a Republican that you sat it out.
You're the 5%.
Now think about how many independents, Tom, this is the other question.
Tom's the one that sent me the numbers about the 42%, 46%, and then the 4%, and the 2%, and he got the 10%, right?
Okay, so check this out.
Check this out.
Out of the independents in 2016, how many of them didn't vote for Trump?
Out of the independents, how many voted for Hillary that said, look, I can't handle a guy like this.
Not Republicans out of the independents.
What do you think?
Well, there's only 10% that are independent.
So how many of those voted for Hillary and said, I can't bank on Trump?
I'm going to go Hillary.
3-4% of that 10?
Okay, would you say that's a, put two to three percent, let's just say.
I was going to say 5 would.
Okay.
I think there were probably fiscal conservative independents that leaned them, lean the other way.
Okay, that could potentially be converted.
Mario, what we're going to need is a chair if you want to pull up a chair is what we're going to do.
Okay, so watch this.
Hi, Jarrah.
How are you?
We got Jara here.
Here's where I'm going with this.
Tom, here's where I'm going with this.
So check this out.
2016, 2016, you're the Republican.
You say, honestly, I'm not good with them.
I'm either going to sit it out or guess what?
I'm going to go Hillary.
Okay?
You're the independent that you said, listen, I don't know.
I don't think Hillary is going to change the game up that much.
I'm going to vote for Hillary.
Okay?
Then Trump has three and a half years to vote, win both of you over.
Three and a half years later, he builds the wall.
He does everything he says he was going to do.
You didn't think he was going to do it.
No war gets started.
Now you're sitting around saying, I don't know, bro.
This guy who I didn't believe in didn't vote for him.
I think I'm going to give him the vote.
The audience is massive.
So then, then take it even another step, Tom.
This is the next step.
Imagine there is no coronavirus right now.
Honestly, imagine there's no pandemic.
What stadium in America holds the audiences that's going to want to go see Trump?
Imagine there is no pandemic.
So when you process it that way, from my perspective, I'm like, how the hell can anybody beat this guy?
He kept a lot of his promises.
So if the audiences are getting bigger during the pandemic, I don't know.
That's why I asked, does it matter how big the audiences are?
Well, Trump's running against Biden and the pandemic.
It's not like he's just running against Biden.
Biden's just running against Trump's record.
I mean, even when, even when Biden is asked, what would you do different about the COVID?
What would you do?
Well, Donald did this.
So again, this goes back to my initial point.
There's very few people who are wild about Biden.
They're not wilding for Biden.
That's just not what it is.
They are, for the millionth time, just not feeling Trump.
I can't explain it any clearer.
It's not feel like it's not.
Where Florida and Georgia, where we told for the last two weeks, every one of them, Pew, Rouse Nelson, go down the list, that they're basically taught.
We may not know Florida for six weeks, right?
Trump is ahead, 3.1 points here, and the New York Times has called it for Trump in Florida in excess of 95%.
The New York Times.
You're kidding me.
Check this out.
They are over-indexing even the most aggressive estimates, both campaigns said, with the Hispanic audience.
Wow.
In Georgia.
What they called it.
In Georgia, in excess of 10%.
Close to 13% of the African-American vote.
In Georgia, remember Atlanta.
Well, that's where they said it was going to do poorly in Fulton County.
Yeah, well, and remember Atlanta.
There's a lot of history that's still very raw from tough times in this country's history that is still present in the African-American community in Atlanta.
And he's pulling at least 10, could be 14 points.
And Georgia's not tossing it.
They're going to call Georgia soon.
And New York Times is now saying 86% statistical likelihood as of this hour with the code said that he gets Georgia.
Remember, Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina were supposed to be these dangerous swing states.
And if they fall, it's all part of the Biden landslide.
I'm calling right now.
It's not a Biden landslide.
You personally.
But you're saying of all the options, you say a Trump landslide, a Biden landslide.
Yeah, that's out.
Well, this is the state that it's all going to be.
By the way, it wasn't out at ABC yesterday.
ABC yesterday was like, oh, this is a lot of people.
No, but look at this.
He's even leading in North Carolina right now.
Correct.
And the New York Times will call Georgia soon.
New York Times is saying that statistical based on the precincts that are counted, not counted, because they've got all this modeling going on.
You're surprised Texas.
What?
I can't believe that with Texas.
Okay, there's a lot more votes that haven't been counted in Texas yet.
There was like 20 million.
There was only like 6 million there.
The fact that states like Texas, Arizona, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina are even in question.
I think Texas.
What does that tell us?
I think Texas has changed the last four or five years.
All the people coming here from California.
All the people coming here from, I mean, Toyota moved here to Plano.
You got all these different Austins getting loaded with people from San Francisco.
Purpling it up.
Purple.
That's right.
What happens?
Let's say Trump gets elected.
All good.
Cool.
We move on.
What happens four or eight years from now to Texas?
Georgia, North Carolina, Florida per se, Arizona.
What happens to all these Sunbelt states that everyone's moving to?
At this rate, when does Texas go Democrat?
Let me read this.
Let me read this to you.
Let me read this to you.
I think what you're saying is very powerful, by the way.
So there's an article that came out saying Texas turning blue, Austin and other Texas metropolitan areas, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, have collectively grown by 19% from 2010 to 2018.
Why?
Jara, how are you?
How are you heading, girl?
It's good to see you.
All right.
Why?
Texas cities are good for businesses.
The Wall Street Journal ranked Austin.
Adams, try to stay focused here.
The Wall Street Journal ranked Austin the hottest job market in the U.S. for a second straight year in 2019.
And tech companies like Apple and Tesla are building new offices and factories in the city like it's their own personal Minecraft server in Austin.
What it means for Election Day, okay?
Data compiled by the University of Houston shows that Texas's major metropolitan areas now account for 69% of statewide vote, up from 52% in 1968.
That's problematic.
That's 17%.
With cities filling fast with young tech workers who broadly lean left, the one-time Republican stronghold has gradually drifted into a swing state territory.
Bottom line, it will take a historic upswell of Democratic support to flip the state of the election.
But as new job seekers continue to reshape its economic landscape, Texas and its meaty 38 electoral college votes might be up for grabs when 2024 rolls around.
But they're not saying this year.
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, that's literally what I just said.
So, I mean, look, what are the big states that have 20-plus electoral votes?
New York.
California's have, what, 38?
New York's got 37.
Florida, Texas.
Pennsylvania.
So if New York, California and Texas all go blue in four years from now.
So this is what the Democrats, you know, this is where they're at right now.
We may lose to Trump this year.
Why would you lose to Trump?
Because Joe Biden is simply not a strong candidate.
Wait, finally five of them are saying that.
What's that?
They're not saying that.
Nobody is saying that.
They're not saying if we lose to him this year.
Who's saying that?
Who's saying what?
On the blue side, who is saying what you just said?
If we lose the same time.
People understand that Trump could win this election, Tom.
What do you mean?
Like what talking heads you're talking about?
No, I'm looking at find me, find me anybody in Pelosi's tribe.
Find me anybody in that tribe that actually believe that they are going to lose tonight.
They're not going to publicly come out and say that.
Oh, we might lose.
Like, clearly they may lose.
Like, clearly.
But bigger picture of what we're talking about right now is in four years from now.
What happens if Texas is then blue?
Texas, like traditional.
Kai, can you pull up that history of voting on states?
I think this is very important for people to see.
Go to the top, not here.
Go to the top and let that play.
It's so important for people to visually see this.
Okay, so check this out.
I hope it goes back to it.
Yeah, it spins.
Okay, it spins.
So watch this.
Focus on, look at California when it first starts.
So forget it's going to go to 2020.
It's blue.
California was red.
76.
76, red, redder, redder.
Reagan.
Boom.
Red.
Blue.
92.
Clinton.
96.
Clinton.
2000, Bush.
2004, Bush.
Obama.
Obama.
Trump.
Trump.
Okay, so you see how that works.
Now look at Texas.
Texas used to be blue in 76, then red, then redder.
Then red, then red, then still red.
Look at Texas, redder?
That's George Bush.
That's Bush.
Blue in 76 is not blue as it is now.
No, no, but it's just so you know, it is using, I know what you're saying because the whole colors used to be different, but it is using it, saying it was a liberal vote at that time.
But the liberal, so I think that we have to define the fact that the liberal vote in 76 is nothing like the liberal vote of 76.
100%.
And so, and that is the thing that a lot of people are missing about Democrat versus Republican is the entire definition of being a Democrat has changed since the 60s.
It's evolved, right?
It's evolved, right?
So really, the Democrats of the 60s and 70s are really the libertarians of today.
The Democrats of, I don't think that's a bad statement, by the way.
She's absolutely right.
I mean, you go back and look at Kennedy and you do a 1 to 10 and they do these assessments where they talk about conservative liberals.
So they make a consistent line and then they put the candidates on there over history.
Kennedy was like a 6.5.
Today, we would call him a moderate, right?
He was a 6.5 that, you know, all the Nixon folks, is a criminal from, are you, and remember, are you going to elect a Roman Catholic president of the United States?
Yeah, right?
And I think that's something that we're not considering, and I listened all the way over here.
I apologize for my tardiness, but God, I'm going to need this bargain to take it.
We are waiting for ours, but T Quinn cut his finger.
Tea Quinn, if you're watching this, we love you, buddy, getting the stitches.
Much love to T. Quinn.
You don't cut your finger when you drink it straight.
I'm just letting it out.
I heard of blood oranges, but he's not liberal.
I think that one thing that I have not seen anybody talk about on any of the coverage of any of this election is the fact that this could really truly spur traction for a third party, for a Libertarian Party.
I really think so because with the country being so good, if it goes either way.
Okay.
Because I think that what we're not considering are the fact that so many people in this country really do identify as libertarian, but they're afraid to vote that way because they don't think it's going to get any traction.
I'm a libertarian.
I'm pretty socially liberal, but I'm fiscally conservative.
I want to keep more of my paycheck, but I don't think that gay people should be discriminated against.
I don't think they should be marginalized.
I think that our minority communities need more attention.
But I think a lot of people think that way.
But because all of the money, right, and all of the advertising and all of the SEO and all of the power is either Republican or Democrat, a Libertarian candidate can't get any traction.
Yeah, but it has to be a dynamic candidate.
It has to be somebody who's going to be able to get a better George Oregon's.
I mean, hopefully there's a solid one they could throw in there.
Maybe.
But I'm telling you right now, probably about 80% of what she was talking about is exactly how I think.
But it's not about that.
You need more than that.
Well, Tom, let's talk about ourselves.
Candidates for a second.
Let's just, why don't we, can we just stay on this for a second?
Is the middle lane open?
I think the middle lane is wide open.
I think it's going to be even more open.
But what's needed for traction?
Not it's wide open.
What's needed to get above 25 points?
Not 19 Ross Perot, 25 points.
What's needed to get to 25, 30 points?
What do you need?
There's going to have to one of two things.
Equivalent disgust, and we're almost there, right?
Or you have a dynamic centrist that fights the human thinking where people are convinced that you're just going to be wasting your vote.
Or you're voting green again.
Well, good luck for you.
You're wasting your vote.
What do you back with Ralph Nader and the Pento's dangerous car?
So in Birkenstocks?
You know, there's been that harshness that goes along with it.
You're just wasting your vote.
You're throwing your vote away.
And Ross Pro showed all of us that if you hadn't dropped out and he stayed in, remember he dropped out for four weeks and then said, I changed my mind.
I'm back.
You know, and that sounded exactly like him, by the way.
Sorry about 92 or 92.
By the way, if you're watching this, if you're watching this, Ross Pro's voting and you agree that in 2024 this creates an opening for a third-party libertarian, push that thumbs up button.
If you don't, push down the thumbs up button.
It's at 31 right now, in 1,000.
I'm curious to know which one's going to go up the most.
I'm actually curious.
What do you think?
You know, I think they could definitely start making an impact.
It's going to be a while until they could win an election, but I think the big question is in 2024, who would they hurt the most?
Where would they pull the votes from?
Probably equally the first time from both sides.
But Ross Perot, I mean, he was a cult of personality.
I mean, he was a big time character.
They need some.
You think they could find somebody like that.
You said a minute ago, Tom, about you need that candidate with magnetism.
And he was idiosyncratic.
He would, remember what he did that was so clever?
He sat there instead of a debate, because they wouldn't let him into the debate.
So he made those little charts.
Remember those?
I remember Dana Carvey doing it on the Saturday.
He held up a little chart.
That's right.
He'd be like, this is bad.
This is true.
The United States says, that's what it means.
Forget all the stuff you don't understand on the evening news.
That's what it means.
And that's just sad.
You're so good at it.
You've brought this hybrid model where you're a Democrat candidate, president, vice president, Republican.
You've talked about it in the past.
What do you think is more of a play that or a third-party candidate?
This, what you just brought up before a third party.
So, what he asked is a conversation that we had, he said, What if a Republican president runs with a Democratic VP, okay?
Or vice versa?
What if a Republican, a Democratic president runs with a Republican VP, right?
That happened in the 1800s.
It happened in 1800s.
People's heads would explode if that happened.
Well, literally.
The media likely that or a third party.
Third party winning third-party winning?
I think you're a Republican and a Democrat actually came together and had a strong message that we're sick of the divisiveness.
We're sick of the party politics.
We're sick of the division.
We are coming together to unite this country, whether it's a Republican president, vice president, Democrat, or the other way around.
The country would yearn for that.
I gave you the example of the Republican and the Democrat in Utah who came out and they did a political ad together.
Together.
I'm Joe Blow.
I'm running for the Senate seat in Utah.
I'm Mike Smith, and I'm coming for...
And we're doing this ad together to show you that we can get along and that we're not at each other's throats.
They probably got a cut rate for the commercial.
They couldn't afford their own.
Go on.
So the point is, I don't live in Utah, right?
I'm in Texas.
I live in Florida.
Kai, turn on your air.
The fact that I found that is because it went viral on the media saying, look at these candidates.
I disagree.
Working together.
I disagree.
Look at Feinstein, what happened to her in the Senate the other day during the Supreme Court nominee.
I mean, she gives a Republican a hug and they're ready to boot her out.
Wow.
I mean, I don't think the party leaders would allow it.
I really don't.
Cut her some slack.
She thought it was JFK.
I thought it was a cool move.
Here's the advantage.
Best ad.
You want to play it?
Let's see it.
Kai, I'm going to bring this video to you.
Try to get off my phone.
3.6 million views.
Impressive audio.
We can't hear it.
Yep.
Here.
Statistical stuff is happening, folks.
Uh-oh.
You can't see the audio, guys.
Can't hear it.
So I don't get it.
Was this like a little mini debate in their commercial?
Or what was this all about?
You're about to get it, Tom.
There we go.
And I'm Spencer Cox.
I'm Chris Peterson, and I'm Spencer Cox.
We are currently in the final days of campaigning against each other to be your next governor.
And well, I think you should vote for me.
Yeah, but really, you should vote for me.
There are some things we both agree on.
We can debate issues without degrading each other's character.
We can disagree without hating each other.
And win or lose in Utah, we work together.
So let's show the country that there's a better way.
My name's Chris Peterson, and I'm Spencer Cox.
And we approve this message.
I love it.
I think that's so honest.
Wow.
That was cool, man.
Wilds got emotional.
This is what the country needs right now.
This is literally.
You know what?
This represents who people are.
That's not what the media is covering.
Yeah, it's all the media's fault.
I work in the media.
I think it's 90% the media's fault.
So you're telling me right now, if you have a, I'm making up names here, a Mark Cuban as a Democrat and a Matthew McConaughey as a Republican, making up names here.
Guys, we're going to get along.
I'm a Republican.
He's a Democrat.
Get behind us.
Or Oprah and a rock.
You're telling me people wouldn't get behind these people?
The country would love that.
Enough of the politicians, enough of the political.
Well, that could happen way before a third party does.
Yes.
Okay.
We have to have a case for celebrities versus even need to be celebrities.
It could be two politicians.
I think it's a lot of people.
But it just happened and nobody covered it.
We didn't know that.
Yeah, but that's Utah.
Because that's state elections.
Believe me, if a gubernatorial race in Utah is getting how many views?
Three million, four million views?
They're up to something.
Who cares about Utah gubernatorial race?
The fact that we're showing it on a presidential podcast right now and we're bringing it up means they're onto something.
The media is the Democrats getting along.
You were at the clinching game for the World Series, right?
Do you think people were asking each other if you're a Republican or Democrat before they high-five each other?
It's only in politics, and it's only because of the media that's doing this and social media.
So let me ask you now a different question.
Here's now a different question.
Tonight, right now, what's the race?
91.73 Biden's up, 91.73 Biden's up as of right now.
While the race is going on in New York, 95, 96% Trump's ahead.
New York Times is saying that Florida is going to go to Trump 95, 96%.
Here's the other question.
Tom, Jira, tonight we find out Trump wins.
Tonight we find out Biden wins.
Are we going to see any riots and protesting if one or the other wins?
And how bad and how ugly can it get if one of those guys wins?
Explain both.
Okay, I'll take it.
There's going to be because they're already determined.
They've been working on these things for weeks.
It's organized.
The money's been coming in.
I believe that it won't be as bad as this summer because I think the feds are on to it.
They had to be tracking the money.
They had to be figuring out where this was coming in.
So you don't think it's going to be as bad as this summer?
I don't think so because I don't think they were prepared in the big cities for it to be as bad.
And they let it go.
It was just the climate in June.
I don't think they're going to tolerate and they're a little bit more prepared for it.
And I think they might know who some of the main characters are and they're snuffing it up.
But something's happening regardless of how the election goes.
If there's no result, it's still happening.
This thing's planned and coordinated.
You think there's rioting if Biden wins?
Absolutely.
Really?
For sure.
I mean, definitely.
They're not going to stand down based on they're not going to be watching the results and then stand down.
Antifa's coming, they're doing it for sure.
Even if they have to misrepresent themselves because it's not to one side or the other, you know what I mean?
Like, they're going to cause chaos one way or another.
Now, I agree with you.
I don't think that it's going to be as bad as we might think it would be.
I think there's been plenty of social media videos of Antifa folks getting their ass waxed.
So I think maybe they're going to back off a little bit.
But you still got to say that.
But Antifa's not a political party.
They want chaos.
That's all they want.
So it doesn't matter who wins.
They're going to stir it up and it's on.
Adam?
I mean, everything's boarded up.
It's sad to see where we're at right now.
Is that I mean, when have we ever had anything like this?
When have riots after elections occurred?
When has it happened?
I don't know.
I'm just wondering, do you think it's going to be pretty bad riots if one or the other?
Like, do you think if Trump wins, do you think there's going to be a bad riots tonight?
Yes.
If Biden wins, do you think there's going to be bad riots?
Yes, but to a lesser extent.
Why do you think?
I think the MAGA crowd will not be happy whatsoever.
But are they going to riot, like go to businesses, shattering windows, breaking cars?
No, I don't think they're going to do that.
I think that they'll do some stuff.
I mean, they're not Antifa.
Tom, what are your thoughts?
I want to get back to the Middle Candidate.
And I think we've forgot that there's a case study in America on the Middle Candidate, and his name is Joe Lieberman.
Joe Lieberman was too moderate for the Democrats' taste, and he was siding in the Senate with Republicans.
You remember this?
And you remember what they did to him?
They ganged up on him in the primary, and they blew him out in the Democrat primary.
So he ran as an independent in Connecticut and won.
And then the people in Connecticut were into what he represented and his moderation.
That's what they wanted.
He was siding with the Republicans.
He didn't like the way some of his votes went.
Remember, he was known as the flip.
He was known as the flip vote.
Not that he flipped, but that he was going to flip a bill or flip a vote.
Remember that?
He ran as an independent and he won.
And so what it showed you is that someone with Connecticut is the case study that shows that a moderate candidate with the conviction to be independent can win in the system.
Now, it hasn't happened since because I think look at the gamesmanship.
It has to be somebody.
It has to be somebody like a rock.
It has to be somebody like Kardashian.
And by the way, I'm not saying Kardashian or Doroka.
I'm just saying somebody.
Joey was differently.
Yes, but by themselves.
Martin could have been the vice president of the United States, had Al Gore won.
Was that not?
Trump has the blueprint.
He shows the big personality from the colour.
He does.
Somebody like a Trump, and I think it's Rock if Rock runs as an independent third party, but I don't think he would even run as a third party because he would run as a Democrat.
But let me go back to that Tom.
If Trump or Biden wins today, are we going to see rides tomorrow?
Yes.
Tom, Ellsworth.
If Biden wins, I believe the Antifa will flare up, but I agree with Tom too.
Or Tom 1, I'm Tom too.
I agree with you.
We do Zen or we'll do Elsa.
We'll do Zen or Elsa.
There is more preparation today.
Yeah.
And there is more readiness on the part of the authorities.
And they're ready for the scrap.
They are ready for it.
So I think it'll be a fast flare-up, but it's not going to be Portland.
It's not going to go.
They're not going to let it go.
No, no, no, no.
You don't think it's going to get that bad?
No, it's so prolonged.
I want to show two videos to you guys, and I want to get your take on this to see what you think about this.
By the way, do you guys want to give us an update where we are right now, Tom?
Maybe give us an update where we are in the New York Times, any new thing posting on what we're seeing.
I just saw Pennsylvania.
Biden's up.
North Carolina.
Look at Georgia on vote 654 to 293.
Pennsylvania.
654 to 293.
Florida Trump's up by a good district.
Trump's going to win Florida.
What about a World Cup?
It's going to show down for Pennsylvania.
That's the state.
That's pretty intense.
None of these other states don't necessarily matter.
I'm going to pass for him without winning Pennsylvania.
It depends on what happens in Michigan, Ohio, Nevada, Arizona.
Arizona.
Kai, can you pull up the talk RFK gave and pull up the video I just gave you on what happened in New York today with Giuliani?
Get those two videos ready.
Okay?
So I want to show you this.
I was here this Saturday and I was watching this speech.
I was watching it with Mario Kai and who else was with us.
I think Sam was also with us.
Okay, just make it big run.
Let's get the audio ready on this one.
So, Tom, if you want to look at this one here, Zenner and Adam.
So this is RFK, okay, giving a speech, announcing to the audience, this is pre-social media, pre-internet, pre-phone, pre-any of this stuff, announcing that MLK just died, and he's speaking to an audience of African Americans.
Watch the reaction, then listen to what he says.
There's a little bit of music in this, so you're going to have to listen to it even with the music, but there's a message to it.
Can you play the video, please?
I have some very sad news for all of you, and I think sad news for all of our fellow citizens and people who love peace all over the world.
And that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis, Tennessee.
Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings.
He died in the cause of that effort.
In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in.
For those of you who are black, considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible, you can be filled with bitterness and with hatred and a desire for revenge.
Desire for revenge.
We can move in that direction as a country.
The greater polarization.
Black people amongst blacks.
And white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another.
Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand and to comprehend and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land with an effort to understand and compassion and love.
For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling.
I had a member of my family killed.
Two.
But he was killed by a white man.
Wow.
But we have to make an effort in the United States.
We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.
Gosh.
A favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus.
He once wrote, Yes, to remember it.
Say it.
Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until in our own despair against our will comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.
Oh my goodness.
What we need in the United States is not division.
Look at this.
What we need in the United States is not hatred.
What we need in the United States is not violence.
That's a Democrat speech.
But is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another.
Feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
Can you pause it right there?
So here's my question for you.
This goes on for six minutes and 28 seconds, right?
Look at the reaction there.
Here's my question for you, okay?
Today, today, today, MLK gets assassinated in 2020.
MLK gets assassinated in 2020.
MLK gets assassinated 2020.
Okay?
And an AOC, a Pelosi, a Schumer, a Obama, a Hillary, is going to come up and give a speech.
How many of them would give a speech like this, a Democrat, to their audience?
Zero.
Zero.
They wouldn't be allowed to, number one.
And, you know, it'd be war.
It totally would be.
He would have been a great president.
That was unbelievable.
Did he wing that?
Yeah, he did.
Like, there was no like.
It just happened when he's giving this talk.
I mean, he just got the news and he gets up and gives it.
Nothing's written.
And the worst possible news you could give to God.
I should think that he's probably murdered less than a year after that.
Terrible.
My mind is blown right now.
I can't, like, I can't even call this.
That's leadership.
When I watch this Saturday, my reaction, I was flabbergasted when I, and I've seen this thing 30 times, because I'm a fan of listening to these talks.
But when I caught it today, I'm like, how would that speech be delivered today?
And that's the most powerful Democratic political family in the history of this country.
And he'd be run out on his rails if he was a candidate right now, right?
They wouldn't tolerate that.
So give me the speech of if that happened today.
How would that speech be given if that happened today?
You know what?
It wouldn't even be a speech.
AOC and some of them would be on social media stirring it up and getting the troops ready.
It'd be war.
They'd be organized and ready to go.
And it would just be all blame, all pushing revenge.
And this is what this other side's about as when he was trying to do the opposite, which is what I'm feeling it.
Well, and you're right.
If I were to write a speech, it would be many speeches.
Many people would be coming out and saying what they felt with no, I mean, having an entire nation as an audience, right?
I mean, he had the attention of the people, and he delivered it from his heart.
I think that's the hugest problem that our political candidates have right now is they got no heart.
Yeah.
The other thing, too, they'd be on the street.
There'd be riots going on that night within minutes if MLK was assassinated now.
I mean, every city would be on fire.
Yeah, Lux was having a remote.
Tom, what do you think, Ellsworth?
I think the 24-hour news cycle and social media and the instantaneous reactions fuel it.
I also think that there's just a lot more tension in people's lives today, and they pop, and they pop fast.
And I think we aren't going to have the thoughtful moderation.
We don't have the thoughtful moderation in the United States that we had at the time, RFK.
And RFK would be assassinated in 1968 at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.
And it wasn't even a flashpoint.
People were upset.
It was horrifying.
But it wasn't like a flashpoint.
I think right now, in our world we live in now, people are wound real tight.
And they've got a lot of history and they get a lot of resentment.
And when things happen, they pop.
And I also think there's a lot of manipulation under the pop.
I think Antifa is like a layup of manipulation under the pop.
They have a resentment because of history.
They have a resentment because I think that's a huge thing that I work in a lot of predominantly African-American communities.
And the way that it is presented to me, I can't pretend to know about it.
I can't speak to it from experience.
But the way that it's presented to me is that the African-American community is upset because we get a very whitewashed version of history when we go to school.
We get a very whitewashed version of history.
And so we aren't taught about things like 1921 Black Wall Street.
We're not taught these things.
And so I think the African American community is pushing for an education system that is going to be fair to all minority communities, even Latino and Latina communities and things like that, so that we are getting an accurate representation of where we were versus where we are.
And a really great example of that is the Second Amendment, right?
Everybody, like, this is a very controversial topic right now.
But when we talk about the Second Amendment, what we don't talk about is the Second Amendment gone wrong.
Okay, so you had a Constitution that was ratified in the 1700s, and then you turned around 100 years later and we have the Second Amendment.
It says, you know, hey, the right to bear arms is for everybody.
Like, all men are created equal, all this, okay?
Well, then 100 years later, you have the battle that wounded me where Native Americans, my ancestors, okay, were disarmed for their own good, and then they were turned around and murdered.
Women, children, men, everybody, okay?
And then you turn around and you have 1921 Black Wall Street where an entire prosperous community of black Americans were murdered because they were prosperous and because these white people over here got jealous.
That's a libertarian thought process is we want more of our money.
We love our Second Amendment rights and we want history to be taught the way that it was so that things are truly fair.
It has taken us this long to even get remotely close to being fair.
See how slow moving is that?
Did you see what Trump passed today with education?
Did you see what he passed it with education on the patriotic side, where they're going to go back and teach, not allow teachers to manipulate that America's a bad country and all this other stuff?
Talk about what America has done to be great.
It was passed today, by the way, which is similar to, there's, Jerry, I agree with you, but I also think there is a lot more of the other side going on right now.
If you look at university stats at any major university today, per one conservative professor, there are 13 liberal professors today.
You don't call that a slight edge.
That's a monopoly when it's 13 to 1.
So my kids going, I want to, I'm talking to one of these schools and I'm sitting there saying, why would I send my kids to your school?
You don't think capitalists are good people.
You think rich people are bad people.
You think rich people all they care about is money.
I never got a job from somebody on welfare.
Yeah, I never got a job from somebody, but in schools, they teach in a different way.
So it's interesting to see what the speech is.
This is what happened in New York this morning, by the way.
Watch this.
This is Giuliani driving through and a bunch of Trump fans celebrating and look what's going on in New York.
This is today, by the way.
Press play?
I believe it's today.
Fuck you.
Go fuck yourself, Giuliani.
You fucking scum.
You're a rusty gentleman.
Wow, wow, wow.
This is too big.
This is today.
Oh yeah.
Just tear the American flag and just throw it on the ground.
Come on, man.
I mean, why are they not being arrested?
My God.
So let's have this conversation.
Yeah.
This only goes one way.
Show me a single.
Show me a city where Biden can actually get 10 cars together, right?
Like this.
With this enthusiasm, they could attack this way.
And they knew they were coming.
They were waiting for him.
So let's try to get it.
Let's have this conversation.
Let's put ourselves in these people's shoes.
Why are they acting like this?
Why are they?
Yeah, I'm asking.
Like, I want to go to people off the bottom.
It was good.
We saw plenty.
Here's one option.
They're part of an organized effort.
They're paid to be there.
Let's say they're just not.
I don't believe that that's raw emotion of those people that take time out of their day to go down to 6th Avenue or wherever that is and throw rocks at Rudy Giuliani.
Do you actually feel this way about Giuliani?
I don't know.
How would they know Rudy Giuliani is going to be driving down that street at one time?
That's what I'm saying.
They knew a Trump rally was coming.
They happened to see Giuliani, so the cameras are rolling and that's what they do.
So you're saying people don't feel that way.
Are you legitimizing the behavior?
That's not what I'm saying.
I don't care how they feel.
Are you legitimizing the behavior?
No.
Yes, you are.
How am I legitimizing the behavior?
I'm actually going to be able to do that.
You think that this is just a normal reaction of Biden supporters to go throw rocks at a Trump caravan?
I'm asking you think they're doing that.
I'm asking you why you think they're not.
Because I know what's going on in this country.
I thought it was because you yourself think there's a reason?
Yeah.
Okay, why?
Trump has created this.
Oh, my God.
You guys could be tone-deaf to the fact that people are disgusted by Trump all you freaking want.
You can give me the, oh, my God, I can't believe he said that people hate Trump.
People hate Trump.
Is Antifa just Trump haters that they go out there?
Those aren't Antifa.
Everything can't be blamed on Antifa.
Trump has created this.
So people who aren't doing this towards Obama.
Don't you think that's inconvenient?
How about some of the results?
Your argument.
Don't you think your argument is pretty convenient?
How do you mean?
Well, because if Trump created it, then there's no way to, there's no other way to explain it.
Did this happen under Obama?
Did this happen under Bush?
Did this happen under Clinton?
Did this happen under Reagan?
Did this happen under Carl?
I read Rules for Radicals.
You ever read Rules for Radicals?
I have not read that.
No, I've read the clips.
What's happening to Robinson?
It's a manual.
It's a manual that kind of gives an idea what to do on what kind of a picture you can paint to the world.
Trump didn't create this.
Trump did not create this rules.
Trump did not create this.
No, I think that people who have a disgust for Trump, that has to be compartmentalized outside of this behavior.
I get that people don't, I'm not a big Trump fan either.
Okay, I get it.
But it has to be compartmentalized.
Well, you voted for him.
No.
Other than Joe Jorgensen.
Okay, so you voted for Joe Jordan.
So you can't call me a hypocrite across the table.
That's what I'm saying.
I love Joe.
I love the fact that there are three different votes here at this table.
So you voted for Joe Jordan yourself.
I love that.
Okay.
I am a single man.
So she voted for Joe Jordanson.
So you don't think Trump created this?
And you didn't vote for him.
You voted for Joe Jones.
Listen, I think that it is a dangerous blanket statement to say that Trump created this.
Because here's what you have going on with Trump that a lot of people aren't researching.
People aren't thinking for themselves.
The media created this, no doubt, okay?
And that is a blanket statement that I will stick to.
And I'm not big on blanket statements, okay?
But Trump did not create this.
Trump, as big of a buffoon as you think he is, he needs to say off Twitter, let's be real, okay?
But he has been talking about how much he loves this freaking country since the 80s.
You can go back and look at his Oprah interview where he has been talking about how much he loves America.
He wants to see America succeed.
His biggest interest in America is keeping our economy sound and keeping us great as a world power.
That's what he wants.
And I can't say that I necessarily disagree with us wanting to have a good economy.
That is at the basis of what he wants.
And that is what he said.
If he was like, he said, I don't want to run for president.
This is what he said to Oprah.
I don't want to run for president.
But if I saw that the country was in such a state that they needed someone like me to come and help, I would do it.
He basically prophesies his own presidential run.
So I don't think that he ran to, I just think that he has some emotional unintelligence.
I don't think that he ran to create division in America.
I think that he ran to help our economy, which was tanking, okay, and to assist in foreign policy.
We were getting run over by all kinds of people in foreign policy and with trade deals.
And that's all that he really wanted.
He didn't really say, he's been saying it.
So he has a track record.
So you have to understand the track record, right?
And so I don't think that he intended to create division.
I don't think that that's what he wanted in his heart.
I think that the media spurred this because that's where ratings come from.
This right here that we saw on this video, those are people that have no emotional intelligence.
They probably aren't very educated people, and it's probably not their fault that they're not educated people.
And we saw them take down that Blue Lives Matter flag, you know, the thin blue line flag.
Okay.
These are probably people that have bad relationships with police.
And that is in and of itself its own issue that has to be addressed.
So when we say things like, Obama created this or Trump created this, those blanket statements are so dangerous.
And all you're really doing is creating the kind of division that you're speaking out against when you make these blanket statements.
Some of these things are not.
Knock it off, Adam, is what she's saying.
I can't believe we're not willing to admit that Trump is so hated in this country that he causes this.
I'm not saying he is the cause of it.
I'm not saying he's the cause.
But I can't believe we're not willing to admit that there's a large percentage of this country that just simply hates Trump.
You're a good person.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you.
Let me ask you a question.
Tom, you have kids?
Yeah.
Tom, you have kids?
Absolutely.
You have five.
Let me ask you a question.
When you have kids and you're married, how important is health insurance?
Extreme.
And how sensitive is the health insurance that you have for your family?
How sensitive.
Meaning, once you get comfortable with a health insurance, you don't want anybody to touch it because you like the system, you like the copay, you like all of that.
Yes, sir?
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of households.
You like your doctors, they take the insurance.
Right.
So I want you to think about it.
I want you to think about in a world where a guy runs for office.
Okay?
Ellsword, I need you with me here because this is parents.
A guy runs for office and he says, I have this great plan for this health insurance.
It's going to come out with this plan.
And guess what?
If you like your plan, guess what?
You can keep it.
You don't have to worry about canceling your plan.
Okay?
All right.
So you run, you say, I'm going to vote for this guy.
He says this.
Your health insurance that you've had for your wife and kids and husband for a long time is all of a sudden canceled.
You can't have it now.
Premium goes up.
What did premium go up in one year?
Tom, do you remember?
We were dealing with this here at the home office when we were.
Premium goes up in one year, 40%.
Wow.
Yeah, because my policy doubled, almost doubled.
Yeah.
Many people did that, right?
But some people even once it got canceled.
When you're married with kids, there is one thing you worry about is the health of your kids.
When that health insurance gets canceled that you've been used it for, well, you know what kind of rage it creates?
Tremendous rage.
How many people you saw going out there throwing stuff at Obama, driving the car?
It's not true.
Nobody.
Never.
He created so much hatred in the company, in the country, with something that people, it's the reaction like that.
You don't see people reacting like that.
There's way too much of that happening on one side right now.
And by the way, here's why I showed the video of RFK.
The reason why I showed the video of RFK is whoever leads the party, that's who determines how the voters of that party react.
Meaning, if today the party of the left is led by who?
A Pelosi?
It's led by a Schumer.
It's led by a Obama.
It's led by a AOC.
It's led by Sanders.
The reaction is what?
Overreaction.
And whoever leads it like an RFK, it's like, hey, listen, you can react this way.
But we're better than this.
But we can learn from this.
That is a reaction to whoever the leader of that party is to say it's okay to go do this.
People react to the leader, man, no matter what you do.
You can sit with somebody's kids and you'll say, that's his kids.
You can sit with them.
You sit with Dylan.
Do you not know Dylan's my kids?
You know Dylan's my kids.
You sit with his kids, you would say it's his kids.
You sit with Dash, you say it's Tom's kids, right?
We got Ray Crunk in the house.
She's doing time.
Super Bowl.
Some chance in the house.
Look at everything.
Good to see you.
How you feeling, man?
I'm good, man.
How you feeling?
Just got back from LA.
Your land of la la that you love.
I think the only person you have, you haven't met Jero, and I don't think you've met Tom, but you met everybody else.
I have not.
Nice to meet you.
No, you guys have met before.
Yeah, that's what I said.
You haven't met Jerron, Tom.
It's good to have you.
I think the conversation we were having right now, just to kind of bring you up today, we're talking about a...
You guys are looking really spiffy.
I just got off a...
He's still good.
He's a real talent.
And he still looks good.
He's getting off the parents.
Can we address a couple?
Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, but to your point, PBD, when we're looking at raising a family, raising a party, raising a country, I have my kids, they throw temper tantrum.
I tell them, no, no, that's not good.
And then they don't get any attention from me unless they get done with the temper tantrum.
I move on and then they calm down.
Okay, now you want.
And so I think today the media rewards that negative behavior, and they think that's the right way to act.
Yes.
That's what they covered.
The squeeze wheel gets the and plus the left right now literally wants to change the country.
I mean, it's the leadership of the left wants to take all the wealth.
They want to redistribute it.
They want to fundamentally change things.
And that equals power.
I got a private equity guy called me yesterday.
We're having a conversation together.
It's a pretty well-known private equity guy.
He's done very good for himself.
And we have this conversation together.
And he says, Pat, I just want you to know.
He says, what's that?
You can't tell this to anybody.
I said, what can I tell anybody?
He says, I'm voting for Trump, but I can't tell anyone.
Wow.
Okay?
He says, I can't tell.
And I said, he said, you can't.
I'm telling you, I'm going to say it on the podcast that somebody.
But I'm not going to say.
But why can't you tell you that?
Why can't he tell you?
Because he'd be ostracized.
He can't do anything.
Because of the overreaction.
The point today is if you say it today, it's a different story today.
It's end of your career.
I mean, in Hollywood?
I mean, you can't do it.
If you work for a professional sports team, you're just unable to do it.
Yeah, cancel culture.
Cancel your eyes.
It's directly possible.
Can you tell everybody that you're voting for Trump?
If I was, I could.
Yeah.
I would.
I would say that.
I would.
But it's different.
It's a different field because, as you guys just mentioned, this web manager, I mean, he has tons and tons and tons of clients.
It's a different look.
So I guess I say that to say this.
If you're running a corporation, if you're running a company and your company is major, you know what you have.
You know what you have as employers.
You know what you have as clients.
So obviously he knows that.
Well, let me ask you a question a different way.
Here's a different question for you.
You're a guy that played sports.
Okay.
Here's a question for you.
You won Super Bowl L. Way, what year is that?
I mean, 97, 98.
97, 98.
Okay, 97, 98.
So 97, 98, you won.
Okay, Super Bowl.
Okay.
During that time, president is who?
Is it?
Clinton.
Okay, Clinton.
In the locker room.
You voted for Clinton.
Yeah, I did too.
For me, I was a Clinton guy.
In the locker room, could people openly say they're Republicans?
Yeah.
Okay.
And they did.
That's 97, 98.
Okay, now watch this.
In what sport today can you not say you're voting for Trump?
Pick one of the four sports.
Pick one of the four sports.
You know what sport it is.
You know what sport it is.
What is it?
It's not your sport.
Can you say you are?
What sports?
Only one.
You're not allowed to do it.
NBA.
Viewers should drop 72% finals.
But you have to understand this, though.
Bro.
It's not a good business model.
It's not a good business model, but it happened because of what?
It's just like you guys just mentioned.
It happened more so because of the media.
Because of the media, because when Trump and the NBA players were going at each other, the media kept it going more than it should have.
But in the NFL, I think about, but in the NFL, wait a minute, I disagree with you.
And you're somebody that's in the sports game.
So if you look at the sports game here, who started this whole BLM?
Who started the BLM?
One player.
What's his name?
Who started?
But he didn't start, though.
But what I'm trying to say to you is the conflict came from college.
What sport came from football?
From football.
Okay.
And Robert Kraft, Tom Brady, are they Republican or Democrats?
They're Republicans.
They're Republicans.
It's cool.
Totally fine, right?
So in the NFL, you've got Republicans, you got Democrats, and they get along.
They can make it work.
They don't have a problem making it work.
But the one sport.
You can actually make it work in basketball as well.
The only difference is: here's the problem.
And you have to do demographics.
It comes down to it.
I know we don't like to, or we try not to because, you know, it's such a football though.
Well, there's a lot of white guys in football still as well.
So, therefore, as basketball, oh man, yeah.
Basketball is probably 75%.
No, it's more than 75%.
More than that, yeah.
So, when you have, as your demographic of players, you have 80% that are African-American that are probably going against Trump, then the 10% that maybe are going with Trump.
When Brady was asking, it's such a big discrepancy.
When Brady was asked about Trump, what did Brady say?
You remember?
He spoke one time and didn't say no more.
Right.
He tapped down.
But he said he's a friend.
Yeah, he's a friend.
We're good to go.
Exactly.
Now, watch this.
Name me one NBA player ever that's worn a MAGA hat.
I mean, I'm not trying to be, I mean, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I know a lot of the NBA players, of course, you know I do.
They don't like Trump.
They just don't.
I mean, so I'm saying as a whole.
But most of it is because of some of the divisive things that Trump has said.
Hold on.
Some of us the media.
Trump's divisive?
You're out of control, really.
You're out of control.
Can we agree that?
Can we agree that people take things out of context on both sides?
And that is the hugest part of the division.
And he is not taking control.
Watch his table here.
Watch his table.
He is.
I mean, tone has a context, right?
I mean, in the situation in which you're saying it has context, like context matters, and being able to pick up on that is very important.
But when you, I don't think it has anything to do with tone or context when you say so-and-so is a son of a so-and-so is a single person.
I'm not saying every time.
You're talking about Trump's context.
He called me.
But try to recognize it.
You're a son of a bitch.
Does that sound the same?
It makes him want to hug you.
You ain't saying there's so much.
I was saying so sweet.
But go back.
But no, no, going back to your point, though.
I mean, yes, in the NBA.
You can't say your name.
That's wrong.
If you stand for the national anthem, you're in trouble.
They want to do an intervention.
If you stand for the national anthem.
One guy stood up for the national anthem.
I doubt if he'll be in the league next year.
Then he blow out his name.
Adam Silver.
Adam Silver has a major problem, right?
I mean, they look at the start date of the NBA right now.
If the players get their way and they don't start before Christmas, they're going to lose a billion dollars.
He's allowed the league to completely politicize itself, and he realizes he's got sponsors.
He's got team owners.
He's got some serious problems.
The funny thing is this, though.
I mean, trust me, Adam Silver is a very, very smart man.
And if he was losing like the NFL started to at first, started to lose major, major sponsorships.
So there had to be an intervention.
Everybody had to come together and say, no, Adam Silver has already done it.
He said he regrets embracing BLM like they did.
He already said that.
Well, I don't know if he regrets embracing it because he didn't really embrace it.
He just did stop it.
He just let it, you know what I'm saying?
He let it go.
He never stopped it.
He chooses what's on the floor.
He chooses what surely he chooses all of that.
But the NBA has always been that league, though.
That's the one league that, I mean, all of us that are at the timeout.
I disagree.
It was even, it was listening that way.
Go back to that.
No, wait a minute.
Did you not watch the last stance?
Did you watch the last stance?
Yes.
So what was that one political part when Obama said, I'm not happy with Jordan?
Do you remember that one time?
Yeah, that when Jordan said that he didn't want to support him.
Jordan was just thinking about his brand.
Everybody knew that.
Jordan was a selfish, selfish son of Obama.
No time out there.
That doesn't mean he's selfish.
I just play.
Let's not talk about party.
But no, I mean, I love Jordan.
But once again, everybody knew what that comment was about.
And even Jordan has come back to say he, you know, hate that he made that comment the way he kind of like what you said in the context that he's saying.
I was going to hug you before the night and so forth.
They're the lead.
They have been the most socially active person in the history of sports problems.
And he's more powerful than anybody else in the league.
LeBron runs the league right now.
Here's a question I have.
It's a scary thought for the league, by the way.
That's the truth, though.
He's running.
And he's got even more in power because they won the title.
And they own an agency.
They had a combine this week with the top draft picks coming in.
He's running the league.
Here's the question.
When it comes to Hollywood, when it comes to sports, based on the reaction tonight, is there a tipping point where people that have to be on their toes, that could have their career canceled, could have their life harmed irreparably for taking a certain side, even though this is a free country.
Is there a tipping point where it's going to maybe start going to the other side?
I think that there will be.
I think sanity is going to slowly start to prevail, at least with some people that are so fearful of speaking their mind.
I really do.
Do you not think that Jordan ran the league?
Do you not think that Bird at one time ran the league?
Yeah, but he didn't do it as a political organization.
He didn't.
Things were different then.
We didn't have this politically going on.
Wait a minute.
I mean, but you say we didn't have this.
How come this is not happening to the NFL?
come this is not happening to the MLB how come this is not happening to the how come this is not happening to other sports well Because the Players Association in the NBA is way stronger than the Blackboard.
That's what I'm saying.
And the visibility of the players.
And that's why the finals leadership was down 72%.
No, that's not why.
It's not why.
That's not why.
Tell us why.
Because of the bubble, because of no fans.
Why is the NFL?
Why isn't the NFL regular season down 72%?
Well, the NFL is going to be different, though, because that, look, people could say what you want to say about basketball, baseball.
Football is America's favorite sport.
Period.
Period.
So you got so many people that's going to watch it.
I think baseball, come on, man.
You get 4,000 people in the stands.
I mean, nobody wants to see that on TV.
They may go out every now and then to the game, but to watch nine innovas of baseball TV is boring.
Here's why.
The ratings are so important in the NBA.
You know it is.
Bloody watching me some Sunday night.
Exactly.
You know, if you created it to turn to something else, you'll see football, basketball.
You just hardcore offended the guy sitting to your left.
I was watching a pitching duel.
One to zero.
He said, give me a picture.
There's a real reason why these NBA ratings are a problem is because the NBA has no other revenue streams.
They're losing their local sponsorships.
They have no local money.
They have no ticket money.
So the ratings is a huge deal, no matter what the reason is.
And everybody's got their own reason for tuning it out, partly because we're used to watching basketball playoffs in the summer, not in the fall.
It always is competing against everything.
And if you like you just said, you put it all together, it's a perfect song.
But basketball is one of those sports that need fans in the same place.
But they also need ratings.
Everybody needs ratings.
But they already knew it.
But you can best believe that they already knew this was coming from everything they were going up against.
From going up against the start of the football season, going up against the World Series.
They knew all this.
They knew what was going to happen.
And then when you don't have fans, fans, I mean, I hate to say it.
Basketball, I love the basketball players.
We all do.
The energy that just plays.
The energy is just not the same.
Yeah, you're right.
It's just not the same.
We're watching the bubble.
Yeah, without fans in there.
It's just not the same.
Football, it can be the same.
There's nobody's physicality.
It's going to be there.
It's going to be the same.
Basketball, there's no home court advantage.
You don't have the fans cussing at the players.
United International.
It just wasn't.
They should hire you for PR relations.
They should just hire to Texas.
John Corner just won in Texas.
What is going on?
Who's winning Ohio?
Who's winning Michigan?
Trump.
Trump was winning Florida.
Biden is winning North Carolina, it looks like.
And Ohio, as of right now.
And Pennsylvania.
And Trump's up big in Georgia.
You know, it was Trump's campaign manager that went on a show the other day on Sunday.
Georgia flipped quick.
Some of these are going to flip real quick, by the way.
Just so you know.
Why are you saying Biden's in the lead in Georgia now?
No, no.
Trump's now ahead.
You said Trump is ahead in Georgia?
He's not saying that.
Yeah, it was too close to call today.
Look at all the advanced votes they had here in Texas.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
The day of vote is going to be strong for the Republicans today.
Tom, you were going to say something.
I did.
I did have a great point that I was about to make.
Well, Kai, why don't you pull up?
Why don't you pull up a couple things with this week's round when I remember what I was going to say?
The Sunbelt states.
The campaign director for Trump went on George Stephanophoulos' show on ABC on Sunday.
He thought that they could conceivably sweep the Sunbelt states to make Pennsylvania not really even matter.
Which would be, I think, great for this country that we don't have to hang to wait on Pennsylvania, especially with that attorney general tweeting out what he did today.
So, Ray, what do you think about what's going on?
You're talking to a lot of your friends in sports, and you're seeing what's going on right now.
Obviously, not giving any names.
You got any athletes that are, you know, you're in contact with a lot of these guys, baseball, football, a lot of these guys.
Are there some friends of yours that are saying, hey, Ray, I'm voting for Trump.
I'm voting for Biden.
Just don't tell anybody.
You know, you got some of these conversations.
I don't want to tell anybody, but.
Yeah, of course I have friends that are voting for Trump.
I mean, we had a deep, deep discussion.
It was probably about 20 of us on the phone.
Because, you know, we, of course, with all the Black Lives Matters and Be Woe Vote, you know, you have different.
How many of you got on a call to decide who you're voting for?
Well, not to decide, but we were just talking about.
Yeah, we're doing a Be Woke Vote conversation.
Not live, privately.
Privately, yeah, privately.
And yeah, I mean, there was a lot of good look, as they say, good things going back and forth.
And that's what we do, though.
And that's the one thing that people fail to realize when it comes to players and athletes and celebrities and whatnot.
We're not going to hate each other for your choice.
That's your choice.
But we do talk about it.
What's the average age of the person that's on that call with 20 people?
Average age.
I would say 40.
40.
Yeah.
Okay.
There were some 30, a couple 30 that are still a lot.
So retired athletes.
Some that are athletes.
The most apart is retired athletes.
Most of them, Tom Brady.
Most people in 40 areas.
I have a question, and I've never gotten to ask anybody this before, so I'm pretty excited.
What do you say to people who tell you things like, just shut up and play?
Or just, you know what I mean?
Like celebrities, like, yeah, like, but if somebody told you that, as someone who has played the game, who is a prominent figure, what would you say to somebody that told you that?
I mean, to be honest, the response would be similar to what it is now.
Because here's the worst part about it: is that most of those people are those media people who say that or who have that opinion, they're talking about something they've never done either.
But I see some comments coming from just regular people like me.
Yeah, social media going, quit giving your opinion.
Just shut up and play.
Well, social media mimics media because everybody on social media wants to be a reporter.
Be honest.
That's what they saw.
It's all off.
Exactly.
So it mimics the same thing.
So when you have someone on Fox or whatever that can say, shut up and play, and it gets away with that, then all of a sudden you'll see social media just take off the same way.
So it's kind of, if you look at what Trump said when he said about the flag, most people were a little undecisive because they didn't understand it.
They didn't understand what Kaepernick was doing.
Even myself, I didn't understand what it was.
So for me, when I first saw it, I'm like, okay, well, why are they taking a knee?
You know, why?
Because that's never happened.
Like I said, once again, we never even had to come out.
When I played, we didn't have to come out for the national anthem.
It became a paid public sponsorship after that.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We didn't have to come out.
Really?
Yeah.
That's what we should be doing now.
It saves this country a lot of grief.
Well, you know what?
The only reason why we started coming out, like I said, is because we got paid to.
The NFL started taking millions of dollars.
Oh, that's right, because they got the big endorsement deal from the military.
Exactly.
That's why you see the military people at that time.
They walk them out.
None of that stuff happened.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
So the media, the whole shut up and dribble, I think it was Ingram that said it, right?
She said it to LeBron.
Who was very political?
Very political.
But the reason why she said it, though, she said it was more than to LeBron.
One more fruit.
She mentioned LeBron.
She mentioned some other athletes or whatever.
And she said, shut up.
It really, most people want to put it all on LeBron like he's the only one because he's the most prominent figure or whatever.
But it wasn't just started from him.
He just picked it up after he started seeing the injustices.
He's the, and that's why he's getting credit more so than Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan would have done what he was doing, win championships, run his company.
He would have never stepped out on that ledge.
Well, LeBron stepped out on it once he stepped out of LeBron.
Here's a question for you.
Michael was forced to not get political for business reasons back in the 80s and 90s.
Do you think this is benefiting LeBron to be political when you consider he's got his production company and he's actually killing it right now in Hollywood?
And all his business ventures, it might be a benefit for him to be this radical politically.
Well, I mean, I think it is a benefit for him.
And that's simply because of where we are now over the last four years.
A lot of, just like PBD said, a lot of Hollywood, I just got back, but I go to Hollywood quite often.
A lot of people in Hollywood are against Trump.
No time offering everybody in Hollywood.
Of course, that helps him, you know, of course.
But I don't think, I think he would have still, I mean, I know LeBron.
I've met him several times.
I think he would still be the same guy with or without.
Let me just get a loser.
But I got a question for you guys here.
Jared, that you brought that up.
I mean, there's got to be full context behind a comment like that.
So you got two comments here.
One is, a reporter at Fox says, shut up and dribble.
Okay.
The other one is, the face of a league tweets out at the president saying, you bum.
Steph Curry already said he ain't going.
So therefore, ain't no invite.
Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up.
What's more disrespectful?
The face of the league saying that or a host saying shut up and dribble?
I would say what's more disrespectful, and once again, you have to put it, I want to be careful how I say this.
LeBron would have never said those things had certain things not come out of Trump's mouth.
So we have to put, you can't just say that.
You can't just read that and not read the stuff that Trump's been saying.
I don't know about that.
I just asked a question.
Let me ask you a question.
President calls your bitch.
All bets off.
Great rage.
All bets off.
So would you ever say any president, you bum?
Would you ever say that to the president?
Would any president call players, son of a bitch?
Would any president say, I mean, there's.
But they have let's just say right now.
Would you say you bum?
Here's T Red.
It depends on you would say you bum?
Yeah.
You wouldn't say you bum.
Why not?
You wouldn't say that.
Why not?
Wait, if Trump can wake up every morning and tweet the stuff that he tweets, if he can wake up and call you a son of a bitch, if he can call third world countries shitholes and all this stuff.
What did he call a son of a bitch?
What did he call a son of a bitch?
He called the players us.
He called all the NFL players, son of a bitches.
NFL players, he called some of them.
Not all of them.
The ones that wouldn't.
He said, get those son of a bitches out of here.
Well, the ones that aren't.
But you got to get away from that.
Because they're still.
You got to get full context.
That is contest.
That's not NBA.
You already knew that.
No, no, but that's not NBA saying.
But he's also said, but he's also said about the NBA.
Nobody wants to watch your game sucks.
So if a president of the country steps in and puts himself in that position.
Is this the one where he said, get the son of a bitch off the field?
Is that one you're saying?
Yeah, he said, we can't wait.
I can't wait till one of these owners.
And then on top of it, he came back and said that we were disrespecting the flag.
We're disrespecting the anthem.
That was never the case.
But that was never the case.
He was saying that any play that Neil Trinfleg is saying is.
Yeah, so basically, once you know how athletes are, just like a Marine.
Once you said about one of us, you said that.
It's way worse for what LeBron did as opposed to Laura Ingraham.
She's an entertainer.
But here's the thing.
And people look at LeBron as a leader.
They follow him.
But here's the thing: the disrespect came from higher up.
Name me a president.
I mean, I've been, I'm 53.
I'm older than Proud Bost.
I can't remember a president.
And of course, now I know you're going to say social media wasn't created back then and all that.
But I doubt, very seriously, if any president, Republican or Democrat we've ever had, would do or use social media like Trump's family.
I'll say we're in this.
I'll tell you what.
Name me one that would.
Name me one that had that.
I mean, when it comes to a president, but it's impossible to completely different eras like this.
Clinton's not involved.
Clinton's a strategic guy.
He might have been all over, but maybe not in the same way.
But that's his favorite thing.
He's not opposed to other things that are.
I think Tom's got an update for us.
Tom, how are we looking?
We're talking about things that matter.
Really, really matter?
Right.
And I agree with all that.
But over our shoulder, there's an election.
Yeah.
That's going on there.
No, yeah.
Look at Ohio, man.
That is tight.
Ohio's tight.
I'll say it.
But Michigan is taking away.
I think that Trump is the most unpresidential president that we've ever had.
He's always said he was.
I'll say it.
I think Michigan's tight.
He's proud of that.
And that's what I'm saying.
If Trump's going to win Michigan, I don't think he's going to be even close enough to 12% of the votes in on Michigan.
But it's where they're in.
Then you ask him to ask the company.
58% Trump.
That's what's going to happen in the next year.
And they got 60%.
They got all the absentee in, and they got 60% from Detroit.
I think Michigan's going.
What do you mean?
Trump, I think it's a good idea.
Pennsylvania Trump was behind cornerfights.
I heard some votes now it's only 50,000.
Ohio, he was behind 2005.
That's because he's going to do day up pretty well in the middle of the day.
Trump is killing Michigan, shouldn't he be?
You should still be disciplined.
I mean, Michigan loves.
So, Ray, what's your prediction?
I mean, everybody here's got a prediction.
What's your prediction tonight?
I think Trump's going to win.
Look at the how.
I think he's going to win.
You think Trump's going to win?
I think it's tight.
It's tight.
I think he's going to squeak it.
I think it's tight.
I think the president's sitting on 274 right now.
It's hard without Pennsylvania.
So Pennsylvania knows what's going on.
That's what he got here.
So Trump wins.
None of the people.
What do you think?
We'll have an answer tonight.
If he has to be able to do that, I don't do that.
I don't want to think about it.
Truly important to get on the bottom.
What side are you on?
But I think there will be a gun to space this out a little more.
These aren't because everyone knows the tension.
So truly non-partisan sources.
And if they announced it tonight or first thing in the morning.
You don't think we're going to know tonight?
No, I don't.
You think we're going to know tonight?
I think there is a chance that we don't have to wait for Pennsylvania.
I think there's a chance.
I'm not saying for sure.
And I'm not saying it won't go to court because, of course, I think there's, because of the tension being so high right now, it may be smart not to annex.
Especially not to announce?
It would be smart not to announce.
Do you think there's going to be riots?
I think there are going to be an activity.
I shouldn't go to the bottom.
I think we're going to say there's nothing to gain by either one of these.
Can I play that waiting game?
Let's try to get a decision tonight.
So what are you doing?
It's time to put this election behind us.
Yeah, and move on, baby.
So tell me, since we're here, tell me what, let's just hypothetical, what would the next four years look like if Trump wins?
What do you think?
What would be some major changes, or will there be any major changes with him, personally, first and foremost?
Do you think he will do anything differently?
I'll go first if you're asking me the next 40 minutes.
If Trump gets elected, okay.
If Trump gets elected, there are no games to play on the left with Trump as the way they did on first terms.
You know why?
Because there is no reelection.
This is it.
That's it.
So no matter what you do, you can do another impeachment.
No one cares.
No one cares what you do to taint his legacy because he's not trying to get re-elected, right?
So all they have to do, Trump, what Trump's going to do is he's going to bring the economy back up.
Powell's already said they're going to keep the interest rates at zero until 2023, which means that's going to keep real estate going the way it is.
That's not going to change till 2023.
China's situation, China's not going to be too happy.
So they're going to have to figure something out because they can't wait four years with these sanctions.
They're going to have to come to the table.
They've got to come back to the title.
They're going to have to come back.
Two years.
Iran has to come back and sit down and figure something out because there is no four years waiting.
You wait.
There's going to be riots and protests going on in Iran of the kinds that you've never seen before.
Jobs, economy on fire.
Dow will go to God knows what numbers that we've never seen.
Small businesses, median income will go high.
All of that stuff's going to be taking place.
The problem, here's what the problem is going to be for me.
This is my problem.
Is I would like, I would much rather not have the economy go like this.
I would much rather have the economy go like this, and we spent some of the money to pay back our debt.
I would much rather get a little tighter.
No more constant stimulus, no more giving the money away.
The day he gets elected, the next thing he's passing the stimulus bill, by the way.
Right.
The day he does.
$2 trillion.
You said he'll take one as well.
$2 trillion.
You're saying that Biden gets like that.
Of course.
Yes.
He's going to do one of these.
By the way, you want beer or you want old-fashioned?
I'm old-fashioned.
By the way, this old-fashioned is a legit old-fashioned.
You guys put boss holiday in my head.
Yes, it's boss holiday.
So that's what I know if Trump gets elected the next four years.
Now, the question really is: flip it.
What happens?
And I'll ask you since you asked me, and I want to hear from you.
If Biden wins tonight, what happens to the economy next four years?
It's only for you.
Nobody else at the table.
Why is it only for me?
It's only for you, but.
Because I took it to have the right authority.
And by the way, Elizabeth Warren becomes a regulator.
Let him say it, and it will come to you.
Let him say it.
Yeah, it knows.
What happens?
It's going to be pro.
But here's the thing.
I think, I don't know.
What do you got?
I got caught at the doctor.
Jack Tax.
Every state you play, you got to get tax payments.
That's why you had to tax.
Oh, like that word.
Doc Ten.
You mean the athlete?
Jack Strap taxed.
That's for you guys.
You got to drop your doctor strap every time you go to the city.
Now I'm just going to.
What the hell?
That's who used to say that.
But no, I got you.
If there's a different word for it, I'll use it.
No, it's what they're talking about.
It's because everybody's very rare, Tom asked.
They didn't want some millionaire to all of us.
Very impressive moments here.
Well, go ahead.
Let's not take this pressure off of Ray.
Ray.
I want to know your session.
It's going to be tough.
Well, for one, some of the things that he's going to do is going to be, I mean, we already know what Trump's going to do.
And everybody knows.
I mean, we want the economy strong.
I don't think we can go two and a half, three years trying to figure it out.
And from what I've heard so far from Biden, I haven't gotten any real something I can chew on to say this is going to happen.
This is the way it's going to be.
It's been back and forth between I'm going to do this.
And when he says about the taxes and things of that nature, of course he's going to tax everybody because what he's really trying to do is PBD Biden.
He's going to be 10% for the big guy.
Yeah, it's going to be taxed because that's the way he's going to be.
That's right.
Exactly.
That's what he says.
I have never understood why we want to continually punish the job creators in this country.
Yeah.
I've never been PBD talking about that now.
The economy in the toilet because they hate Trump.
Because they hate Trump.
It makes no sense at all.
To continue your thought about what's going to happen in the next four years.
It's going to be up, dude.
He's going to take the shackles off.
He's going to be worse on Twitter because he has nothing to lose.
And he'll be thinking about his legacy.
He's going to rip it.
And here's the other thing, too.
You don't think Trump's going to hold some grudges against these people that have made his life a living hell for four years?
The Adam Schiffs, the Nancy Pelosi.
You think it's bad now?
She'll retire.
He'll drive her out of politics.
Something you need to keep in mind is: okay, let's say Trump gets elected.
Okay, let's play this game.
The House is staying Democrat.
Is it not?
We don't know.
We don't know.
Look, right there.
I don't know.
Is it?
Well, let's just all play it.
They need splits.
The House is likely to stay Democrat.
Let's just go with that.
Let's say.
80%, I'm saying.
Let's say that Democrat.
The Senate flips.
Flips as well.
Well, then he's not in the future.
What's Trump's life going to be like literally being the president?
There's going to be a lot of executive orders.
No, not a lot of Senate Bauer is going to be a lot of his spies will be saying that.
That's a good point.
He definitely needs that Senate.
I mean, think about how much issues he's having right now, just with the House against him.
He can't get a lot of stuff done.
He's having to resort to executive orders just with the House.
Now, if you have the House and potentially the Senate, this guy's going to be off his rocker.
So by the way, by the way, would you rather that problem?
No, I had that problem when I was president.
I lost the House.
I lost the Senate.
I was in the Oval Office and Board.
This intern came in.
Come on, Clint.
Come on, Clint.
Just let us have it, Clint.
That's true.
Famous politicians that you do pretty good about.
Look, because you sound like Clint.
You do.
You sound like Clint.
You said, congratulations.
Yeah, right behind you.
Say it again.
I don't recall, but it's good to say.
Just made me feel good.
Put the ring on again.
That's pretty good.
No, why don't you give it to us?
Give it to us from the perspective of Mr. Wikipedia Tom Ellsworth.
What happens if Trump gets elected?
And he made a very good point, Senate and House.
And what happens if Biden gets elected?
Well, I think if Trump gets elected, there'll be two things that go on.
We know what we get with Trump.
We just get more of it.
Done.
The other side is they're going to be going after him again.
How do we impeach him?
How do we go after him?
They're going to keep going after him because it doesn't look like the Senate's going to flip.
So the Senate maybe can be tighter and the House will be the same or maybe a little broader.
But it's basically what we have right now.
So they're going to be going after him and he's just going to get more of what you have.
Now, if Biden wins, we are ignoring the civil war that is in the Democrat Party right now.
There is a ceasefire in the Democrat Party right now with Bernie and the squad are right over here.
They are not lined up with the rest of the party.
And there is going to be a civil war because they are going to expect payback for getting in line with this election.
And if he does not put the more progressive things in there, and if he does not put Elizabeth Warren in the Treasury chair, there's going to be hell depending on.
He will.
That's part one of it.
But there is going to be a civil war.
And I think there'll be, I think the economy is going to belch a little bit.
I think there's going to be a civil war in the Democrat Party.
And I think they're going to do exactly what Clinton first term did.
He overreached.
Remember first State of the Union address?
Has a little red, white, and the House because he hands it to Gore.
This will be the America medical card.
Remember that?
And then he lost the House in 94.
Here's the question.
And the biggest pendulum switch back ever.
Okay, if this civil war, who's on the other side?
I thought that far left, those radicals are running it.
Who's got the power to even go against them on the Democratic side?
Who is it?
Pelosi thinks, Pelosi and Shift think they're holding on by a thread.
Well, tell us.
I'm very happy to hear that your good friend Ilhan Omar just got re-elected in Minnesota.
Runs.
Look at that.
Celebration.
Celebration.
Good friend.
Congrats, that's the big deal.
There she goes.
Oh, my goodness.
So how much do you think Biden is, I mean, and here's my problem, because anybody, of course, who was running against Trump, whoever was going to be, was going to take the opposite approach and the opposite opinion.
And they want to say with the people, what they think the people want to hear.
So how much do you think is going to really get done?
That's the problem that you always have.
Oh, a lot will get done radically because Kamala Harris will be driving the ship.
I mean, that was going to be my next question is how many people at this table are confident that if Biden wins this election, he'll still be president in a year.
That's what I said in two years.
I'm sorry.
No, he's not.
I said it in two years.
Another $30 million for his day.
He resigns.
I mean, the fact that the media ignored it as much as they did the last three weeks.
Watch everything come out now.
And that is a testament to how the media is.
Cheers, Tom, Tom.
America.
Come on, Tom.
Do I have one yet?
America.
That's yours.
I thought that was a reason.
Yours is coming up, buddy.
Yours is coming up.
To America, ladies and gentlemen.
America.
Turkey.
Let's make America great again.
However, we make it.
I'd like to take a minute if I could.
I think I'll just pick up on what you were saying about the media.
Finish your point here, but then I'd like to continue.
No, you continue because mine is a totally different point.
So I want to finish what you want to talk about.
So how close is CNN to jettison Zucker today?
To doing what?
Jettison to genocide.
I think it'll be his choice if he leaves.
You think?
Yeah, I really do.
Well, what condition is CNN in in ad sales to deficit?
Bad.
True.
They're in bad shape.
Right.
A Biden presidency is actually bad for the NBC children, CNBC and MSNBC, because CNBC, the only thing they have is, remember they lost their news ratings.
So now they go squawk on the street, morning bell, power lunch, closing bell.
All business.
All business all day.
It's become a business channel.
Everything else is gone.
So the NBC daughter channels are in trouble.
They're tight.
They're tight.
Yeah, they've all said, you know, a Biden presidency is not good for us.
Right.
It gives us nothing to do.
Because nobody will not be allowed to run enemies.
Right.
And they won't have a strong economy, but they're just not allowed to go after it.
Yeah.
All right, let me give a shout out to a couple people.
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So the difference between Trump and Biden is Trump build a wall to keep the illegals out.
Biden will use it to keep the overtaxed slaves in.
Okay, so that's that.
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You guys were saying, I think, Jerry, you had a point of view.
Just on that note right there, I mean, if there is a chance that Biden wins.
And you want to just bring the bottles.
Just bring the bottles.
It's because just what we wanted.
And even I myself, I'll be the first to say.
And I think I told you this before, PBD, that before Trump.
I met Trump before, before he became the president.
Thompson.
It tastes like apple juice.
Delicious.
He was one of the family.
I actually went to his house for, he used to do this film in Florida.
He used to do this big film festival.
And myself and a friend of mine had a movie at the time.
And we took it to the film festival.
Was it Bump and Run?
No.
No, no, no.
Did you have a good interaction with him?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I told PB this.
He's one of the coolest guys I've ever met.
Right.
And everybody was there, you know, everybody.
So, so what, what we all.
And he loves athletes.
He does.
What we all thought we were getting somehow, some way, probably after a year or two, something happened.
Because everybody wanted somebody who wasn't as presidential as the other presidents that we had, who wasn't the stand up and say what I think you want to hear type thing, because that's what politicians do.
Most of the time, they stand up and say what they think you want to hear.
Or whatever they think is the strongest, they'll say that.
Look, knowing damn well, they probably don't even feel that way.
So we thought that's what we wanted.
We thought we wanted a businessman.
We wanted someone to run the country differently.
We got that.
But there's a lot of people that say, I don't know if I really, you know, sometimes you ask for something you really don't want.
But the constant drumbeat of the media telling you how horrible he is every single day.
There is a problem with that.
And what I'm saying, and I keep saying that, is that's because for the first time that I've been into, I guess since 15, 16, since I started watching presidential elections and things of that nature, there's never been a president to go after the media like Trump does.
And I love it.
So when you put yourself in that arena, you're going to get disrespect.
Right, right.
So you've known Trump for a while?
Yes.
Okay.
Herschel Walker has known him for a while.
Remember what he did with their presence.
Everybody loved him in the apprentice.
I remember a reality show he did for Amarosa to try to get her a husband.
You know?
So with all.
That's a tough one.
She didn't end up with a husband.
So knowing what you know of Trump, your experiences with him, your dealings with him, your interactions with him, do you think that he's a racist?
No.
No, I didn't.
Honestly.
I didn't.
I honestly didn't.
No.
You know what?
I think some of this stuff, like I said, a lot of this stuff, I feel once you become the president, there's a lot of people you have to answer to in different positions that he never would have had to answer to before.
Yeah.
You know, so once you put yourself, it's kind of like they say, you never know who you are until you get real power.
Power.
Sure, sure.
Like, he didn't have real power when I met.
Of course, he was rich.
But a lot of people are.
A lot of people are rich.
Unpacking a little bit.
I don't think Trump is a full-on racist.
No, but you have somebody going somewhere with that.
Yeah, where were you going with that?
But he has some racial tendencies.
Okay, what does that mean?
So when you say that, those are some, like, I mean, all of us can have some racial tendencies.
It depends on how you handle it.
I'll be the first.
I ain't no saint.
So when it comes to that, when I, you're right on Bronco.
I'm not a saint.
He's serving a lot.
But you're right on Bronte.
I thought you were getting carried away because you're drinking.
Oh, no, no, no.
Give me some.
When I first got two, three numbers.
I've never been to All White High School before when I first got there.
I'm checking Camille.
I've been texting on community.
I fought Fire with Fire for at least a year.
So my whole sophomore year was really lost fighting.
Literally, figuratively.
I fought every day.
Because I didn't know how to handle people who had racial tendencies or were racist.
I did not handle that.
So once it blew up, then I got to settle down.
Whereas with Trump, I feel the same way with him.
I feel that he probably always had a way he felt about because we all know West Palms is a different place.
People who live there could settle a little bit.
There must be a reason that you asked that question.
I mean, you know, you haven't chimed in in the last like 20 minutes.
I'll be honest with you, the most quietest person in the last 30 minutes has been Adam.
So I can't get over here.
Please save me, save me from the times I represent all black people I'm not even a black guy And I'm like, black guy, please take it away Oh, yes, that is You brought up Herschel Walker.
Yep.
Do you know him?
No, I don't.
Not personally.
Okay, because he has kind of come out and been sort of vocal and Trump.
I shot in a clay tournament with him two years ago.
On the one hand, I want to point out that that dude still does like a thousand push-ups a day.
By the way, he's very, he seems to me to be a very logical, open-minded human, very reasonable human.
And you have to be that.
And you have to be that.
And I think that when people get in situations like this where we're sitting at a roundtable, I mean, look at us.
And I want to take the opportunity really quick before we move on to point out a couple of things in the comments section here because I always get a kick out of the Bet David podcast comment section.
But I want to point that out: someone said earlier in the podcast that we are all out of touch because everybody that's sitting at this table is wealthy.
And I want to tell you about that person and 52 cents that assuming is very dangerous because everybody sitting at this table is not wealthy.
We're all of different races, ethnicities, political backgrounds, genders, and I am a middle-class American.
So don't do that.
And then the second thing that I want to point out before we move on is the person who called me Pocahontas because I brought up my Native American heritage.
Elizabeth Warren ain't got nothing on me.
Okay, I'm the real deal.
My eighth-grade grandfather was the leader of the Iroquois Confederacy.
Wow.
Okay, and you can look it up, and I can prove it.
Okay, so don't be assuming things on the chat here about people's background or wealth.
By the way, just FYI, full-on discussion.
I think it's important to give this disclaimer.
Jara's carrying right now.
So wherever you are, she will most likely come track down your IP address.
Packpacks.
What'd you say again?
Tell me, Pokemon.
You can find me very easily on social media and we can talk about it.
Hey, let's call somebody.
Let's call somebody.
I'm going to call somebody here.
So we got somebody that just said they're a Biden fan and they believe Biden's going to win.
We're calling you 812.
I got to give the number.
All right, let's see here.
You got the speaker on so everybody can hear it.
Hello, Joe.
Is that you?
Sam?
He's sleeping.
Man, you're a dude right there.
Duranian, sir, speaking.
Duranian, how are you?
This is Patrick Bedavid and the Bed David podcast.
How are you?
Man, I'm doing awesome.
Thank you so much for calling me, buddy.
Yes, of course.
So tell us.
I appreciate you, buddy.
So tell us, why do you think Biden's winning?
I'll be honest with you, man.
I just think it's just the early voters, really.
That's all the voters.
And I really think also he's probably winning because they're cheating on him.
Oh, so you think he's winning because they're cheating on him?
You're thinking he's winning because they're cheating on Trump.
Oh, yeah.
With Gilm, with Elon Omar, with, you know, just the ballot harvesting and everything like that.
And you saw the mail-in ballots for Trump in the ditches.
It's God's whole spiel.
But not only that, I mean, it's a lot of early voters.
Like, you know, the Democrats were leading in early voters.
But after that's all washed up, I think Trump's going to come in with this deal.
But at the end of the day, it's all in God's hands, man.
Where are you based at, by the way?
Indiana.
Indiana.
Any crazy thing going on right now?
Any riots, any protesting, or nothing crazy yet?
Oh, no, man.
Indiana's a chill country.
I mean, we haven't heard of that in all Kentucky and the city.
You know, we're not too far from it.
Nothing like that in Indiana, man.
We're just loving people down here.
Well, much love to you as well, brother.
Just the way you're talking, man.
Much love right back at you.
Hey, buddy, how do you feel about Mike Pence?
Mike Pence, I think Mike Pence will be a good president after Donald Trump.
You know, once he finds a good VP, like you guys said, he seems more unifying as opposed to Donald Trump.
I'd say he's really grooming himself to become the president.
Interesting.
Well, Mike Pence is from maybe in a minute.
Well, buddy, great feedback.
Thanks for picking up the call.
Have a great evening.
Stay with us here as we find out if the winner is going to be announced today.
Have a good one.
You two, man.
I'm here all night.
Thank you.
Oh, man.
Much love.
Much love.
So the way you just mentioned your pants and finding a good running advice or whatever.
How much do you feel that Harris was only picked because she's do you like Kamala, by the way?
Three second pause.
I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong.
I don't know her well enough to say if I really liked her.
I mean, early on, years ago, there was some things I wasn't a fan of hers.
I've started to research a lot more now.
Yeah.
But, I mean, people change.
People allow to change.
You sound very diplomatic and political.
Can you pull out that video?
Can you pull up that video that Kamala Harris shared yesterday or two days ago that got six, seven million views?
That probably wasn't the best timing.
I'm a byproduct of escaping Iran to come here because of that video.
I don't know if you saw that video or not.
Have you seen the video?
Have you seen Kamala's video?
Okay, this is great because we're going to get the reaction together.
Please turn your attentions to this wonderful video made by Kamala's marketing team.
Oh my gosh.
I see this and my body shakes.
I think Kai's trying to tell us that's a good movie.
Kai, honestly, we are not interested in watching that movie.
I'm just glad it's not a different video.
Okay, there we go.
Let's watch this video.
Make it bigger.
There you go.
Press play.
Equality versus equity.
This is not a VC pitch.
Watch this.
Watch this.
It's just the start of it.
So there's a big difference between equality and equity.
Here we go.
Equality suggests.
Oh, everyone should get the same amount.
The problem with that, not everybody's starting out from the same place.
So if we're all getting the same amount, but you started out back there and I started out over here, we could get the same amount, but you're still going to be that far back behind me.
It's about giving people the resources and the support they need so that everyone can be on equal footing and then compete on equal footing.
Equitable treatment means we all end up at the same place.
I'm getting emotional watching this video.
It's a tear jerk.
What do you think about this video?
It looks like it was made for five-year-olds.
What do you think about this video when you see this?
Adam, what do you think about it?
So there's a big difference between equality and equality.
Kai, can you pause that?
Is it really?
No, I don't know.
I can't understand why it wasn't made.
Like, what was the point of it?
What she's trying to say is that socialism is.
Oh, I get what she's trying to say, but I'm like, right now, I mean, I don't know.
Oh, you went socialism with that.
I don't know what to do.
Where did you go without being able to do it?
I'm just paying three extra high intensity.
There's a difference between equality and equity.
Black people have not started at the same time.
Starting places.
White people.
That's where I went with.
That's how you process this.
I didn't think.
No, we get our different nicknames on the same thing.
How did you process that?
Well, the thing is, like you just said.
It's kind of to put it in that context.
It's a little different.
It's a little different because, well, I mean, I understand what she's trying to say, of course, that if your track, I mean, let's just call it what it is.
If I start in the hood and you started in the suburbs, you're probably going to get to where you're trying to go as far as success, if you're going to measure success on that.
It's far success-wise, if we both were given the same resources.
You started in the penthouse, I started in the projects.
That's pretty much what she's saying.
That's what she's saying.
That's how I took it.
That's what she's saying.
She's saying that there's nothing where you are saying, some people will say, oh, no, it's not happening.
Everybody starts on the same foot.
Everybody goes out and work the same.
If you work hard, you're going to be successful.
That's not always true.
It's a lot more difficult.
I disagree.
And I know you disagree with that because you can't.
But here's what I'm saying.
But here's the thing, though.
It's all about your mindset.
It's all about your mindset.
And when what she's saying in that, or what she, I'm assuming what she was trying to say, I would have approached it in that manner.
Just if your mind has been tampered with for so long and then you finally get out and they give you the same resources, you're probably not going to end up the same way.
I can work 19 times harder than you.
Sometimes it just doesn't work out that way.
But for the few, it will.
For the few, it will.
Everybody's not going to get where you got to because of work ethic.
I mean, I know guys that will work all day, all night.
They're still not going to get it.
Oh, no, I don't disagree with that, but I don't think that's the only area, though.
I agree.
I think at the end of the day, to give a message like that, to me, it's a divisive message.
Because for me, look, everybody has the same amount of hours per week.
I can pick and choose to watch TV when I get home.
I can pick and choose to pick up a book.
I can pick and choose to go home and play video games.
I can pick and choose to learn how to sell and learn a new skill set.
I can pick and choose to go and watch sports online logo.
I can pick and choose to start a side business.
I have that choice.
And I don't bind to what they say, though, I mean, of course, you can pick and choose certain things, but just like, it's just like me being a professional football player.
A lot had to go right for me to end up.
Yeah, including work really.
I think you should be offended by what she said, to be honest with you, because what she's saying is it goes against everything that this country stands for.
Meaning, let's all get to the same place.
And if you don't have this certain advantage, well, we'll take from the people that have it.
We'll bring it down here so we can all be.
I gotta get that out of there.
Where's your predominant?
I didn't get that out of it.
What was your predominant area growing up?
I'm from L.A. You're from LA.
Okay.
We watched in California Kamala Harris change the incarceration rules.
This is not a Trump talking point.
It's real.
She changed the rules.
It's bad, right?
And that's why.
Crack and powder had penalty like this.
Crack had this kind of penalty.
Powder had this penalty.
You know that's absolutely discriminate.
Yeah, because we're not doing the powder.
We're doing the crack.
Because we can't afford the powder.
Five bucks on the pipe?
Yeah, that's rich.
$80.
$80 a gram.
No doubt.
No doubt.
So that's why.
But that's.
Tom can do laps around everybody at this table regarding topic of marijuana if he wanted to.
We're not going to.
See, that's why I was saying, PBD, that I said, I have my differences because of that part of her.
So now she comes and now it's a whole different thing that she's come.
So it's kind of double talking to me.
So it's hard for me to listen if you know that early part.
Because she definitely wasn't saying those things then.
I start from the starting point that she's the most liberal senator in the Senate.
So you've got to read between the lines of everything she's trying to say.
She is trying to push it towards a socialist, communist regime, basically.
That's what she wants.
I think that she, especially with this message, she is surfing on a wave of cosmic hypocrisy that I can't even swallow it.
Okay?
Because she will come out with something like this and she'll rant and rave about how we need to invest in our minority communities, which we need to do.
But she didn't think about that when she incarcerated thousands of people for trivial crimes.
Exactly.
And so this is what I'm talking about is the media makes it so hard for you to actually research the validity of a candidate.
And I'm so sorry.
We can say what we want about Trump.
God, he's a buffoon sometimes.
But Kamala Harris is not a friend to the African-American community.
She is not.
Yeah, I did an IG live Thursday, and I said, what do you think about what's going on?
And we had people there from Iran, Haiti, Philippines, El Salvador.
And all of which said, to answer that ad, we have a great resource.
United States of America.
That's the resource.
And just depends on how you use this resource, the access, the information, the access to a lot of the programs.
And now, to be honest, it's a lot.
I would definitely look at that now in this day and age.
I would look at that and say, I don't agree with that.
And a lot of people are.
Because of what you can do now with social media.
But to get so many people believing that they need a handout to get a hand up.
And see, and most of that I feel, once again, I go back to what I said earlier because I feel that's political talk.
That's politics.
Look at, okay, what do you think they want to hear?
And let's run that.
Exactly.
So, Patrick, as an entrepreneur, do you not feel like your obstacles make you better at what you do?
No question about it.
I think the biggest thing is just the distractions.
I had a choice on what to do with my time.
And by the way, this is coming from a guy asking.
I intentionally, I was so glad the day my sister decided to work with us in PHP.
And I'm just one of our vice presidents out of Southern California.
Shout out to my sister, Paulette and Ciomac Sabe.
Timony Kingdom Builders.
They do a great job.
We're proud of those guys.
But, you know, when Paulette came, I told everybody, go talk to my sister about who I used to be.
I said, go talk to her.
And I said, Paulette, tell them everything.
I'm totally fine with that.
And she said, you sure?
I said, just pretty much everything.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's talk to everybody.
It was two nights out.
You know what was the best thing?
Because what people needed to know was what I did every day.
I was at a nightclub in the Army.
I drank a bottle of tequila every single week on a Saturday, on Friday, Saturday.
I finished one.
Our buddies would finish one.
Then we go straight to Nashville, Tennessee.
Either Mix Factory, Connections, or some Silverado, Toronto How to Dance Country.
I partied every night.
I could care less about books.
First time I ever finished a book, I was 21 years old.
I never finished a book cover to cover until I was 21 years old.
Never.
So I didn't use my time wisely.
And then one time, my dad has a heart attack.
I go to the hospital, UCLA Medical Center.
I see him.
I go down to my car.
Next day, I said, it's over with.
I'm not going to live this life.
From that next day, I said, don't call me to the nightclubs.
I'm not coming to the nightclubs.
I'm not coming to the parties.
I don't want to do nothing with you guys.
They said, we don't believe you.
I said, try me.
Six months, nothing.
They stopped calling me.
And then my life changed.
I made a decision to go a different direction.
And I had everything around me.
Special K, LST, ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, pot, you name it.
Every single thing was around me.
I made a decision to go to different parents got a divorce.
My parents got a divorce twice.
All of these things you add up together.
I refuse to buy into you feeling sorry for me.
The biggest offense I take when somebody feels sorry for me.
You know the whole Thanksgiving people would bring you stuff.
And it's, oh, poor Patrick, don't ever, don't ever worry about it.
See, Pat, that's your, see, I mean, I love that.
Don't get me wrong.
But that's, once again, that's your mindset.
That's a mindset.
I mean, I disagree.
I disagree because everybody doesn't know.
Are you a man of faith?
Are you a man of faith?
Okay, so man of faith, God, God, the story about the talents.
Is that a new story?
It's a 2,000-year story.
What's the story about?
It's just five-white talents.
Everybody has a different talent.
He gave everybody something.
If you believe in God, you believe in free will.
Freedom to choose, right?
Kamala Harris doesn't believe in freedom to choose.
Kamala Harris believes living in the world.
Mosney is saying, and that's what you did.
What I'm trying to say is, if you believe in God, and I believe in God, and say 41% of America believes in God, okay, let's just say Christians.
Now, I just got a lot of them believe in God, but a different God.
Let's just say 41% is Christians.
And he said, you have the freedom to choose.
You have the free will to do what you want to do.
You can make good or bad choices.
So what are we going to do?
Now you're going to rate me based on not hold me accountable to my bad choices.
I made bad choices.
I chose to make bad choices.
It's not on you.
And I exactly like this country is lacking in that country.
And unfortunately, the difference between an RFK or a JFK and a Kamala Harris or Joe Biden today is the following.
A JFK said, stop asking what your country can do for you.
Today they're saying, ask what your country can do for you.
It's flipped.
It's the same Democratic Party.
Why are you asking the country to do anything for you?
I went to Boston.
When I'm in Boston, I went to the John F. Kennedy Museum.
When you go into the John F. Kennedy Museum, by the way, if you've not been, you have to go to.
So you go to the John F. Kennedy and they sell all the back problems this guy had growing up as a kid.
Nobody thought he was going to do anything.
It was always Joseph.
He went to war.
He was a pilot.
Joseph gets killed.
That is devastated.
Anxiety, panic attack, depression, the father.
No one thinks John F. Kennedy is going to do anything.
And then one day John F. Kennedy decides to run and he becomes a president.
When you go there, you know what was the most interesting about John F. Kennedy?
How many different countries around the world loved John F. Kennedy?
How many different countries around the world created their own museum just as a shout out to say, listen, man, we respect you, we love you.
Other countries, not paid for by America, not a George Bush library here in Dallas, not a, you know, John F. Kennedy library in Boston.
What's the point?
There's a very big difference between the Democratic Party of the 1960s, 1970s, and even 80s versus 2020.
Very different.
You know, I sit with the guys of my company.
You know what company I run.
You know exactly what I do.
We've sat down.
The first time we sat down of five guys and we started talking, that's how you and I made the connection and that it led to all these other things that we've done together.
In our company, I'm from Iran, okay?
We are 54% Latino.
We are 18% African American.
We are 51% women.
We are, I don't know what other stats to give you.
We sit down and we talk.
So what are you for?
1% Filipino.
You know what's crazy?
We now have multiple executives in the company that are gay and lesbian.
Multiple.
Multiple.
Gay and lesbian.
We have a lesbian couple that's hardcore Christian that they get treated royally.
We don't sit there and judge you at all.
We welcome you.
Come on down.
Let's go take over the world together.
We don't have any issues against you.
Moral of the story.
There's a Democratic Party of John F. Kennedy, and there's the Democratic Socialist Party of today where let us solve all your problems for you.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with that, but that's the political side.
That's what Kamala Harris said.
And that's the politician side of it.
That's Kamala.
What did I tell you, PBD, last time we talked about it?
And they're not going to be able to do it.
They will say whatever the hell they want to say to get you a vote.
I don't believe half of the, and that's where the problem is.
The problem becomes this.
Trump has shown us.
We're not guessing.
We know what he's about and what he's going to do and how he operates over these last four years.
So is that a positive or a negative?
It could be both.
It depends on who you are.
It depends on who you are and what you like.
If you like it that way, it's a positive.
Well, he's not for sale.
He's got their game.
Exactly.
What about the economy and things like that?
I mean, look at the economy, yes.
But you have to go back and some of the stuff that Trump is saying, like he's saying all he's done for the blacks, this, that, and the other.
Some of that stuff he should even say.
Are you saying it's not true?
Some of it's not true.
But are you saying that Trump is not the racist person that's not?
Abe Lincoln is coming to get him.
He's on a flight.
He's on a flight.
If he mentions my name one more time, tell him I'm a flight.
When I saw him today, when he says something, I mean, listen, I'll be the first to say today he said, you know, I have to tell you, I've been the greatest president for African Americans since Abraham Lincoln.
And I have to say that because out of respect, some even say I'm better than Abraham Lincoln.
So he does those things, which is a little bit.
And by the way, that's what I'm saying.
Some people.
But I tell you, I don't disagree with you with that part.
But I cannot stand a philosophy that tells me, poor you, Patrick.
Yeah, this is why you need us.
Let me give a shout out to a couple people.
One guy here, Funa, said that he guarantees Trump wears, Superman wears Trump underwear, is what he said.
You get $500.
Superman wears red underwear.
This is rich.
So Coach Constantine Constance said, $25 cut.
I think she's doing a shout out for her business.
We got Patrick is so right.
I don't know which point $25.
PBD, I missed the raising.
You said $25.
I keep hearing these numbers.
These people are donating, they're just donating money.
So, I'm going to call somebody.
They love you.
They said we love Ray Crockett.
He's the most handsome guy on the set.
I got to give it to you.
I just missed it.
I ain't giving you love.
I'm calling, by the way.
If somebody picks up, let's see if we got him on speaker.
I'm not putting it on speaker.
Okay, so I'm going to call Ricky.
Ricky, if you're ready, Ricky, you're getting a call.
Ricky's about to get a call, and I think he has some thoughts for our friends here.
I don't know.
I don't think, Ray, you've ever met Ricky before.
He's Ricky in California.
Ricky is in Michuacan.
He may be in Michael Can.
Let's raise the audio a little bit.
Ricky!
Ricky!
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
So, Ricky, what do you think about what's being said right now with Ray Crockett, with Adam, with Tom, Jara, Sopalo?
What's on your mind?
You know, I'm going to be honest with you, but if I could be honest with you, without due respect to the professional football player that you have in front of you, you know, I'm a little bit disappointed because, you know, as a kid that grew up watching sports and listening to, you know, watching Oscar and Awoya and watching Julia Sensa Chavez and watching all the boxers that we admire, I would hate to hear the message that, well, it depends where you come from.
It depends where you come from, if you're going to make it or not.
It's a very disappointing message from a kid that grew up in the hood that wants to inspire to be somebody because now what you're saying is, oh, I can only make it if the circumstances are perfect.
I can only make it if everything is lined up for me.
It's because I got lucky.
That takes my chances of success away.
And that's the issue right now.
Like you said, Pat, the issue is not red or blue, Democrat or Republican.
The issue is that one government is trying to, here you go, here you go.
You're unable.
You're incapable.
I come from a family in Mexico.
You know, we're from Nanako, China, Michuacan.
It's one of the most dangerous parts of Mexico in the world.
In Mexico, and Mexico is the most dangerous part.
My family migrated here.
My dad had five businesses with Nobu.
He had no, he didn't speak English.
He was 28 years old and he had absolutely no papers.
I mean, we didn't grow up to be victims.
We didn't grow up with handouts.
So to be told that we can only do things or make things happen if things are lined up for us, it's just very disappointing to hear.
And on top of that, you know, that's why I don't buy into socialism.
Hispanics are naturally conservative.
Hispanics, naturally, we want to work hard.
We love our country.
We love God.
We love our families and we don't want handouts.
But now what happens is you have a government that's saying, we're going to give you this, we're going to give you that, we're going to give you this.
Why are people subscribing to that?
Why are we being told that we can't do something by ourselves?
That we have to, that we are forced to need somebody.
I don't need anybody.
I'm a grown man.
I don't need another man to hand me something out.
I don't need another woman to hand me something out.
Why can't I trust my abilities?
Why can't I trust my talents, my God-given talents?
The Bible says that God made me unique.
The Bible says that God made me who I am as a man.
I agree.
Why should I have to depend on another man?
Well, I think too.
I think if you look at more so where she was trying to go with this, I don't think she was more so trying to say, and that's why I say the commercial was bad because it wasn't explained enough.
It just wasn't enough explanation.
But if you go back and you look at the home situation of buying homes, first time buying homes and all that stuff with Hood and all the ways that they try to bamboozle us and not allow us to buy homes and things.
That's what she's talking about when she's saying, you know, start out equally.
You know, they only give out 10% of the loans.
And they don't go to, you know.
She wasn't giving that commercial with the black community.
I mean, I don't know.
No, I mean, I think she was just geared at it in general.
I think she wasn't.
But the thing is, Tom, here's the thing, though, Tom.
Here's the thing.
By the way, just ask why.
Ricky, give me a second.
When Ricky speaks, when you guys talk, even if your mics, you're whispering, they're picking it up.
So don't say anything when the phone call is speaking, and we'll respond back to Ricky.
Go ahead, Ricky.
But here's the thing, though, Tom.
You know, here's the thing, though.
She represents the party that literally owned the slaves.
She represents the party that LB supported the Ku Kukuk clan, that supported Jim Crow.
The party's never switched.
It's a myth.
It's a lie.
It never happened.
There's no proof of it.
That she supports the party that LBJ created this, created this program that incentivized father absence.
That's part of the party she's a part of.
And on top of that, I mean, if you're going to sit there and say, oh, we're going to, you know, poor you, poor you, well, of course, poor me because you created a system.
If anybody created the systematic oppression, it was them.
So to sit there and try to say, like, you're going to be my savior.
You're the one that shot me.
Now you're going to come and put a band-aid over me.
Now you're going to try to cure me.
No.
Get out of my way.
Give me opportunity.
Don't try to be my savior when you're the one that shot me.
You hunted me now, and now you want to pretend like you're going to save me.
On top of that, Joe Biden in 1977, he was against integration.
And he wanted segregation.
I mean, this is the same man that pushed the crime bell that mass incarcerated blacks.
Trump just signed the First Step Act that released 4,000 prisoners, 85% of them being black.
I mean, if we're going to look into the history of this party and we're going to look into this message, why can't we see past the bullshit?
Why can't we see past the hypocrisy?
Because if you think that's all it is, it's lies and hypocrisy.
The same states that keep voting blue continue to be the states of the 10 worst cities in the country are Democrat cities.
And the people keep voting the same way.
Why?
There's got to be a change.
Stop telling me I can't make it.
Get out of my way.
Let me use capitalism, free enterprise, and the free market system to get where I need to get to.
Stop telling me that.
I don't even hear that I can't make it.
I don't even hear the circumstances need to be perfect.
I don't even hear that I was screwed over 50 years ago.
That has nothing to do with my choices right now.
It has nothing to do with who I am as a man right now.
You know, if we're going to talk about that, the Spaniards came and took the gold from the Mayans and the Aztecs.
They took a thousand years ago.
They come and wiped us out.
They changed our religion and killed our leaders.
Raped our women.
Took our gold.
What am I going to do?
Cry about what happened a thousand years ago and I'm all of a sudden generationally wounded because I had post-traumatic stress disorder because of something that happened a thousand years ago.
That's the message they're sending.
And it's so wrong.
Yeah, and the problem with that is, just like I told PBD, it's really a mental thing.
At the end of the day, you have to, as a man, woman, whatever, you have to decide and make your mind up as to what you want and what you want to be without expecting any handouts at all.
The harder you work, things are going to come your way anyway.
I believe that.
I believe you'll work yourself into a good situation.
Ricky, imagine what's going to happen when she hits some real power.
But here's the thing, though.
You got to understand this.
This is what politicians do.
This is what they've been doing.
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
To get in, I'm going to say what I need to say to get us agreed though.
I do.
We just watched Robert Kennedy give a talk.
This is today's politicians.
If you want to say today's politician, I agree.
I don't think this is.
You're going back, but I'm saying today.
I agree.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
I agree.
I'm on the same page.
As far as I can say, you know, even Malcolm X warned us in the 1950s.
He did.
He did.
He warned us about the liberals.
He told us the white liberals deceiving.
Now the liberals are now black, white, and Mexican.
It's just the demographics changed.
But the reality is the liberal has never changed.
They've always been the same way.
Malcolm X warned us in the 50s before they killed him.
So the reality is nothing, you're right.
Nothing has changed because it's the same people deceiving us, holding us, and we keep falling for the same bullshit every time.
And they keep flip-flopping.
So, Ricky, tell us who's winning tonight.
Trump 2020, baby!
How did I know you were about to say that?
We're coming in the house!
Ricky, we'll talk to you later tonight.
As the results are coming in, take care, buddy.
Ricky and Missy, bye, bye, bye.
I need to meet Ricky.
You're going to love Ricky McClintock.
You're going to love Ricky.
We had a friend here that just gave $1,000 MKD, which in U.S. dollars is $20.
We had another person said, Moshe D.C., Ricky's on fire.
Another person said, Ricky's on fire, Moshe E.D. What'd you think about what Ricky said right there, Tom?
You were listening to what Ricky said, but you didn't comment on it.
Thoughts on what Ricky said?
Well, Ricky just said is that let me be who I am and don't put any well basically just said that low expectations is a terrible prejudice.
That's what he just said.
Why are you going to get upset about something that happened a thousand years ago?
And history is important.
It's important to understand that.
But that doesn't, quote, Ricky, that doesn't change who I am today as a man.
And I think what he said is, give me a platform of liberty, freedom, and free enterprise, and let me run.
And I'm going to run.
I think that's what he just said.
I'm going to call somebody here from Cuba that left socialism.
This is Cuban.
He lives in Miami.
Wow.
And they've messaged nonstop.
Nelson wants to say something to us.
I don't know what he has to say.
Let's see what Nelson.
Nelson, we are calling you.
So get your phone ready, Nelson.
Oh, thank you.
Got to pick up.
What is this?
That was your opportunity.
I'm going to call one more time.
Nelson, come on, Nelson.
Let's call him one more time.
He just never knows calling.
Somebody said Ricky is Mexican David Pong.
Last call, Nelson.
Last call.
Very true, actually.
What do you say about Ricky when he's a Mexican Tupac?
He's a Mexican Tupac.
He is a Mexican Tupac.
You have no idea.
Okay, Nelson, you were going to get that call, but your phone is out.
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Thank you, Anthony.
Go ahead, Tom.
What I was going to say is that many people don't know, and I'm going to talk about you for a second.
Can I talk about you?
Sure, sure.
Okay.
So, you know, when you take a look at Pat's company and, you know, and the business they're in, it's harder to get licensed in that business in Illinois than it is in California.
California, you know, there's a test you have to take to get license.
Sure.
They'd knocked it down to 60%.
What license is it?
Insurance license.
So they knocked it down to 60% and you pass and get a license.
In Illinois, they didn't knock it down.
Not only that, they force you.
You have to log in and you have to go to someplace where you can be counted and confirmed that you were in the room for the full eight hours.
You mean not cheating?
The casual?
Yeah, I was about to say that.
You can't just go home and move your mouse around and pass it 60%.
Yes.
Self to sell.
Pre-licensing courses.
By the way, these are the two states that are doing the same thing to give a life insurance license to someone who's going to sell the same policy from the same national carrier.
I have to say, it's easier to get a gun license in Texas than for sure.
You can't get a Ford license in Illinois.
Well, but I'm going to point out his.
You can kill somebody, Kate Dellers.
You know, there are fantastic agents in every state of the union working for Pat's company.
Fantastic.
But you can analyze it quantitatively and show that there was a set of agents in Illinois, and I thought that their productivity, that they were more stick-to-hooked, they were more forceful, they were more committed because it was harder to get the license.
And I felt, honestly, I felt at that time that that was the truth.
Because it was a little bit harder.
What a great point.
They had the dedicated tools.
These guys had two classrooms.
You had to go into an office.
You had to go on Sundays.
They had a person teaching.
Very good point.
And they were kicking everybody's butt on a license.
Everyone's saying, how?
And I said, we're doing a classroom.
People showing up on a Sunday.
We're still doing it.
People showing up on a Sunday.
By the way, Nelson gave me the number, and this is one wrong number.
The reality is at this point.
Nelson, I'm calling everybody on the phone.
That's it, Tom.
Good point.
I agree.
I prove that message.
Nelson from Cuba was upset with Nelson.
Can you hear us?
Yeah, I can hear you.
So, Nelson, tell us why you love Kamala Harris's video about socialism.
What?
Tropical body.
You're lucky.
I love you, buddy.
You're lucky.
Doc.
Tell me what's on your mind.
What are you thinking?
What's going on?
Man.
30 seconds.
Hey, man.
I have an uncle who died on a raft on the way over here.
And to see people who want to preach socialism and bring socialism to this country is the saddest thing I've ever seen, man.
Like, the other day I had a conversation with somebody about it.
And I was like, really?
Is that why my uncle died at sea?
Is that why his brother had to watch him float away as he died?
And possibly he got eaten by sharks or God knows what happened because socialism is great.
You know what I mean?
Like, no, man.
There's a reason why so many of us are here.
There's a reason why we run away from it.
It's because it destroys lives and it destroys people.
And Cubans, there's a reason why we're so right-wing.
We're just pro-America, man.
I relate so much to what Ricky says: how we get here with nothing, and you don't got to give us anything, man.
Just give us the opportunity to be in this country, and that's really all we need.
Socialism is not the answer.
And I think the saddest thing I've ever seen is for Cubans to get here and have kids here and then embrace the ideology of social media.
It's the saddest thing I've ever seen, you know.
Like, me personally, the day I have kids, I'm going to make sure.
Like, I saw the podcast the other day when you were taking your kids and asking the principle about socialism.
And that's like one-on-one for me, man.
That's exactly what I'm going to do when I have kids.
I love it.
What's he name?
Nelson.
Hey, Nelson, this is Matt.
You know, I'm looking at a change here from 2016 in precincts where voting is complete, leading the way in changing precincts in 2016 to today.
40% bump change in Cuban neighborhoods.
In Cuban neighborhoods, 14% change towards Trump.
Ain't it crazy?
That's the problem.
No, I mean, me personally, we've always been a very right-wing race, but Obama is the only one who kind of messed us up a little bit.
And then at the end, of course, he showed his true colors when they denied us asylum.
I don't know if you guys know that, but Obama's last week as president, he denied Cubans political asylum.
So basically, you know, when we were able to get here, like that Westwood Drifto lost off, like if they caught us on land, they let us stay here.
And if they caught us at the sea, they would send us back.
Now we're basically just stuck, you know?
And yeah, just me personally, I'm a die-hard capitalist.
I own a business.
Pat, I listen here.
I absolutely love your content.
And to me, it's more of just your political ideology has more to do with what you believe about yourself.
Like, I there see a direct relation with being an entrepreneur, with leading a little right, and then more like not understanding capitalism, with leading a little more left.
It's just my perspective, man.
I'm blessed to be in this country.
I'm blessed to be able to own a business.
I'm blessed that I get to my family ran away from that system when we know what it's like, and we don't buy the garbage that people like blood-sucking vampires like Kamala Harris preaching whatever.
You know what I mean?
Oh, whoa, you just offended Adam Nelson.
What are you doing, Nelson?
See, Adam Nelson.
Yo, Adam, this is, this is Alan's boy from the barbershop, dude.
That's my dog.
Is it right?
That's my dog.
Next time.
What's up, brother?
How you doing?
Send my love to Alan, bro.
I love you, buddy.
Regardless that you're soy boy and bite, bro.
I love you.
I love you.
What are the freaking odds?
What are the freaking odds?
You know me, bro.
Nelson, have a good night, and stay tuned with us.
We're going to see what's going to happen tonight.
Thank you, Nelson.
Stay blessed, PBC.
You got a buddy.
My man.
So here's an interesting comment on the thread.
Someone said, Andrew Hall said, people don't risk their lives and say, if I can just get to Poland, everything will be okay.
Well, one thing that you have to understand, and we all understand it, especially who's lived here all our life.
So you guys come from a different mindset, and that's why I keep saying mindset.
If I lived somewhere else in a third world or something, whatever, I probably had the same mindset.
But my mindset, I've been here all along, and you've heard that everybody is created equal and all this stuff.
But then when you find out that it's really not, then your mindset is different.
And that's what I'm saying.
When you find out you're not, is what you repetitively have to hear.
What you hear on a daily basis.
You guys coming from Iraq, Iran, wherever else, hell, I want to get the hell out.
Yeah, so your mindset and my mind is not.
You're trying to say we've got to keep Middle Easterns out of America.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is when you come over here with that mindset, with that open palette, yes, you're going to come over here and you probably would do better.
Talks about open palette.
You said open palette and the pizza arrived by the way.
You just said open.
So Papa John's or what is it?
You got this addressing as well or no?
Papa.
Awesome.
And it goes on the other side too, PBD, as far as with whites and black.
If you've heard all your life that whites are superior, whites are superior, whites are superior, then you finally come in contact with a black guy, you're going to think you're superior.
I also don't disagree on that either, by the way.
By the way, let me give a quick shout out to a couple people and we're going to go to the next one.
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Here's what I, a bunch of people came and showed up.
Okay.
So here's why somebody said, what's Trump's next five moves?
This is what I want to hear.
This is what I want to hear.
I want to hear who, if by random, if this is even out there, I'm curious.
Who voted for Trump and is voting for Biden this time?
If you voted for Trump in 16 and you're voting for Biden this time, text us at 310-340-1132-310-340-1132.
I want to know why.
And also the opposite, who voted for the left last time, meaning Hillary, but this time you're going to Trump.
Text us as well and tell us why we want to hear from you.
I'll be the first to start.
I voted for Trump.
In 16?
Yeah.
And now you're going to Biden?
Probably.
So things you don't want to vote in.
It's a little late now.
I don't know what I know.
You just did, though.
You just said that.
I voted for Trump in 16, yes.
I did.
So what was it that made you officially switch?
Switch for Trump the first time?
No, you just said that you voted for the first time.
I voted for Trump.
I didn't say that.
I can neither confirm nor deny that remarks.
Norman Schwartz covering out of meat the savior tonight, but you did switch.
Yes, okay, all right.
So you don't want to say it, but you'll say you switched.
What was the deciding factor saying, all right, I assume you voted for Obama twice.
Yes.
Okay.
You just did not believe in Hillary Clinton?
No.
So you went with Trump?
Good.
Yes.
Reluctantly.
No, I wasn't reluctantly.
Like I said, you met him.
I've been a man before.
So I had something.
Yes, I had a pretty conceived notion.
I had a preconceived notion as to what he would do.
Business-wise, I knew what he would do.
Economy-wise, I knew what he would do.
What was it specifically that caused you to say, all right, he's just not getting my vote this time around?
Was it something in 2017, 18, 19, 20?
Was it over the last month or two?
Did you not have your mind make up until the last week?
Like, what was it?
I probably changed probably six, seven months ago, but it was a totality day.
It was all the way to the bottom.
All the ingredients.
All the ingredients.
And then what I really don't like is when someone kind of, I guess, if, look, if I'm second in charge, I'm second in charge.
If I'm third in charge, whatever, I'm going to say what I am.
When you start to try to bamboozle me with BS, that I already knew what was in the works and say, I did this when that was already on the ticket before you got in off.
Don't take, don't, you know what I'm saying?
Give a specific example.
I mean, that's what you're saying you did for blacks.
A lot of the stuff that he says he's done was already on the docket.
So who was a better president for blacks?
Him or Abraham Lincoln?
Because he's right there with me.
I wasn't born with Abraham Lincoln, but I mean, I would have to assume what he did is more powerful.
I take it personally when people have a major problem with this country that live here and they want to change this country that's been pretty good for people and when they want to dominate people's lives.
When they want to raise taxes, when they want to make sure that the economy for sure will suffer because of what they're going to do when they're in power, when their expectations are a prejudice.
And they want to dominate.
Didn't the economy do pretty well in front of Obama?
Didn't the economy do well in front of Clinton?
I'm saying that the economy is because Clinton is not Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders the president?
One of the things that I respect about Joe Biden pretty well for one of the things I respect about Joe Biden is he said Trump thinks he's running against Sanders.
I beat Sanders because I had different policies than him.
So I'm a capitalist, full on.
So just Adam Revitalist.
Here we go.
I don't believe that.
You can also control Campbell.
You can also be a capitalist and also not believe in Trump.
You can do both.
And see, that's what I'm talking about.
That's what I hear.
I'm with Adam Lincoln.
You can also think that.
But how Trump is a fool and still understand the good things.
Trump doesn't affect my life anymore.
Yes, it does.
Because you won't vote for him because you say you're a capitalist.
Well, you vote for a guy who would probably be the most pro-capitalist president we've ever seen, but you hate him so much that you can't vote for him.
I never said that I hate him so much.
I just hate his.
I'm not capitalist.
I don't think he is fit to be president.
Do I want him running my company?
Do I want him running my real estate company?
Do I want him running any company?
We got 60%.
We're talking over each other here.
Okay.
Okay, so really what we need to do is take a time out and rewind because you had a question to him before and ask it again.
I forgot what the question is.
He was who has shit through a flag.
No, no, no, yes, because the country has been so good.
The people, I mean, it's the people that want it to be good.
The people want to have the opportunity.
I don't know.
I mean, do you think that good education can be found in minority communities right now?
Do you feel the way they handled the educational system?
Meaning, I lived in the suburbs since I could live in the suburbs.
The minorities, I think it should be dollar for dollar for kid, but it's not.
It's for where you are and where you live.
It's how they disappear.
Because I don't.
I don't think that's the same.
Do you think education can be found in minority communities?
No, I think in certain states.
So it hasn't been good for them.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not a scholar on that.
But no, definitely in some inner cities, the quality of the education is not great.
And education is the foundation.
It can be the foundation for success.
So we're not setting up our minority community children for success.
We're not assisting them in that effect.
I'm not sure what I feel Camilla Harris trying to say.
That's what she was trying to say in the beginning, yes.
Exactly.
But it would have been better not to have a cartoon and make us.
Can I say something?
What you're doing?
Yeah, we have a savior for you and for Ray.
We have a senator from Illinois who is a Democrat who wants to jump on and say a few words.
Yes.
Is that okay?
Yeah.
Let's set him up.
Let's call him up.
Come on.
All right.
Come on, Senator.
Senator Tom, go ahead.
I'm about to call the mayor of Denver.
Here, Tom, I know you're watching right now.
I'm for right there.
There you go.
Tom, I know you're watching right now.
Senator Cullerton, stand by.
We're calling you on the podcast.
Here we go.
Right after this, it's going to be another friend of ours who's waiting for a call.
We'll call him.
Illinois State Center.
Senator Tom, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Very good.
So how do you think it's going tonight?
Well, it's definitely interesting to watch.
It's great to see that it's huge voter turnout.
That's amazing.
Awesome spin.
Do you think it's going in the direction you want it to go or no?
I'm not sure yet.
You know, I mean, it's, in my mind, it's way too early.
There's too many vote by mails and too many early voting results that haven't necessarily been counted yet.
And this is a hard election because of the fact of COVID going on.
The vote by mail is staggering throughout the entire country.
Have you been listening to the banter the guy's been having the last 15, 20 minutes?
Actually, I haven't.
I've been playing in my own state and watching results in my own state.
So I have not, and I got to tell you, I love all your podcasts and I love listening to you, but right now I'm just watching my own state and watching these local races that I've been involved with.
I apologize.
I apologize that I have not pushed out into listening to the realm of possibility of what's going on nationally.
Well, let me ask you, who do you think is going to end up winning tonight?
Holy crap.
Man, I'm not sure.
It's super close.
I mean, the Electoral College is really a tough thing.
And it's so different from the popular vote.
Look, if we were going to go popular vote, and we were going to take city by city, I mean, you take New York, Chicago, and L.A., they could probably outvote everybody in the country.
But we are a country based on the Electoral College, and so it makes things a lot different than it would be.
But there is still only three states that actually split Electoral College votes.
I want to say it's Nebraska, Maine, and one other.
But everybody else, whoever wins a popular vote, takes the entire set.
So what are the chances you think we'll know tonight?
Do you think it'll be postponed or you think we would definitely know tonight?
I'm guessing we may have a good idea tonight, but I don't know if presidential will name out tonight, but I'm guessing a lot of these lowercase races, and truthfully, look, some of the lowercase races are way more important than the presidential race.
The presidential race does one thing, but state by state, who wins your local representation is almost way more important than who wins the presidential race.
The president can do certain things, but who abides, who does your taxes in your state and who does, who deals with the issues that you're going with in your state, that's almost more important.
And I don't think that's going to be solved tonight.
Senator Tom, you know, you said that you weren't listening for the last 15 minutes.
We've been having sort of an overall debate on the merits of capitalism and socialism.
And how's that been going?
Not fun.
I don't hear a lot of laughing.
I'd hear a lot more laughing by that comment.
So you're a Democrat, right?
Yes.
So tell me how much of a socialist you are, please.
Wow, that's kind of a loaded question.
You're the right answer.
It's not unnecessary of a question.
Truthfully, that's.
You know what?
I'm not going to answer that.
What about that?
Okay, well, how about this?
Let's just be honest.
I think that's a very valid question.
No, I'm dead serious.
Let's just be a little bit more.
You called me, and I was respectful with you, but to make sure that you're not.
Just to be clear, I voted for a Democrat, and I voted for Biden.
So this isn't some right-wing conspiracy theory coming at you.
No, I get it.
However, what are your thoughts on capitalism?
Let's just go with that.
Yeah.
I'm not sure what you mean by that, though.
It's a very simple question.
Yeah, Senator, I think really what he's saying is this.
As a Democrat.
Wait, wait, I can barely hear.
Okay.
Put that person closer to the mic.
Do you got me now?
Yeah, I got you now.
Okay, I think what he's wanting to know from a Democratic standpoint.
Okay.
Do we stand for capitalism or socialism?
Do we what?
Do we stand for capitalism or socialism?
Again, I think you're pushing two different narratives that don't necessarily, it's not necessarily one or the other.
Really?
It's not necessarily one or the other with Joe Biden or with Donald Trump.
No, we're not even talking about Biden versus Trump.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I heard the question, but I think you're saying it has to be one or the other, and it doesn't have to be one or the other.
So there can be a combination.
Ways of making things work and to say that it only has to be one or the other in this election is kind of ridiculous.
So I have a question.
I'm sorry.
Is that too brutal?
No.
So, Senator, I have a question.
So, how do you see, in summary, how do you see capitalism and socialism existing together?
Look, I like capitalism.
I do.
I think people have an opportunity to make money and to, and I push my children to go make their way in the world.
I also see that, you know, when people say socialism, look, men, at a certain extent, there's already, it's already happening, man.
Who do you think provides the water?
Who do you think provides the roads?
Who do you think provides the fire and the police?
Wouldn't that be considered socialism?
Because that's government interrupting your lives and being part of your lives, right?
They take care of the roads.
They take care of the sewers.
They take care of the water.
They take care of the water you drink and make sure it's not full of lead poisoning.
They make sure that the police are there every day if you need them.
They make sure that the fire department is there if you need them.
Would you not say that that is socialism?
No.
I don't know that I would say that that's socialism.
Well, wait, how is that capitalism?
Because if you're trying to portray that capitalism is only based on only money can provide the resources you need.
Well, the government provides some resources you need.
Some.
So how would you explain things like huge amounts of resources that you need on a daily basis?
I think that there are some very basic and necessary things that the American people are willing to pay taxes for in order to have.
And you mentioned those things, water, roads, etc.
So how do you explain ridiculous things like estate tax, capital gains tax, and the other 90 taxes that have come into play just in the last 50 or 60 years?
Well, first of all, I'm not trying to explain any of those.
I know I was asking you to.
I get that you want me on the show to explain that, but I'm not trying to explain those.
But I will say that to say that the government is not involved in your daily life and does not provide you with services and does not provide you with opportunity is incorrect.
And to say that government isn't a crucial part of your life and doesn't help you is incorrect as well.
Senator Tom, I have one last question for you, and we can go one of two directions with this.
We can wrap up the call and let you go back to the page.
By the way, Patrick, listen to your voice.
I appreciate that.
Thank you so much.
That's fantastic.
And I watch all of your videos all the time.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
You know, the one question I would have for you, you know, I've had socialist professors on.
I've had communist professors on.
I've had hardcore capitalists.
I've had far-right.
I've had everybody on to present their argument.
The question I want to ask you is, what do you think is a fair amount for somebody to pay in taxes, Tom?
When you talk that, he hears you.
So when you guys whisper, it's picking up on calls.
On calls we can't whisper.
Patrick, we're talking with you.
I got to tell you, and trust me, when I tell you straight up, I listen to you all the time.
I'm friends with Matt Supulo.
Love that guy.
I think he's one of the best entrepreneurs I've ever seen in my life.
I got to tell you, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
And I can't.
And I'd love to say I can equate it to something, but I can't.
I can't necessarily equate it to something.
I think everybody should contribute to society to make us better.
And I think the poor and the disabled need help.
And I think we should do our best to help them.
And not just through, oh, I'm going to give a little something to my church over this weekend and that'll make me feel better.
I think that, you know, we have a responsibility as a society, as Americans, to make sure that our most vulnerable people are helped and taken care of.
I don't know what that number is, though, Matt.
I got to tell you, I straight up don't know.
Yeah, I appreciate that answer.
I think, honestly, nobody here is disputing whether we ought to put into the pie to help for the roads, schools.
You know, when we first came to Texas and I lived in California for 20 years, I had a friend of mine in the car, Jose Andres, and we're driving, and we pulled up, and I had to pay $3.
And he says, what is this?
I said, this is what you call toll road, tollway.
So I paid $3 for a toll, and I went to the expense.
He says, that's not fair.
We don't do that in California.
I said, the difference is here, you pay taxes for things you use.
In California, you pay taxes for things you don't use.
So I don't have a problem paying taxes into things.
And I think the real conversation tonight becomes a number, and I don't think we're going to figure it out.
So, look, go back to watching what's going on with Illinois because I do agree with you that state and Senate and House and Congress matters more than the presidential.
We appreciate you for your time.
Tom, I said no to the progressive tax, man.
Said no.
I got to tell you, I thank you very much for calling me, and I appreciate how good you're doing, and I appreciate you as an entrepreneur and everything you're doing.
Tom, let's grab a cigar when we get back.
All right.
Sounds good.
Touch him.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye, bye-bye.
By the way, Nelson Rodriguez, it's so funny, these comments.
Gave $5 and said, tell that senator I'm going to send him a Che Guevara t-shirt undercover socialist Nelson from Miami.
That's my guy.
Shoot me a message.
Dennis Prager is waiting for us to call him next.
But what do you think about what he said?
What is that knowledge?
I think that's a really cool question.
I think it's a huge frustration for the American people when, and I think this guy's probably a really good dude.
Like, I don't know him.
I'm not going to judge him.
But the way that he answered those questions is the huge frustration that the American people have.
We can't get a straight answer from politicians.
And if you don't know, say you don't know.
I can't speak intelligently to that.
Let me research it and get back to you.
But quit fiddle fucking around and answer the fucking question.
That's what I want.
Answer the question.
And that's kind of what me and PBD talked about the last time we talked about it.
Politicians are politicians.
It's what their mindset is.
And for whatever reason, we've heard that a lot going on this, especially during this presidency.
We've heard that a lot.
Fiddle.
Say it again.
What's the word?
Fiddlefucking around.
We heard a lot of fiddle fucking around.
There you go.
And we don't get what we really want.
So now you leave and you asked me that question, Adam, earlier.
Now I leave to having to decide for myself.
Is it fiddle fucking or is it real?
Moshe, it's so funny, man, these people.
The fans are funny fans and they're brutal.
They have no filters.
Moshe said, for you real.
I'll give $10 for you to hang up on the senator, please.
I can see how you feel offensively.
Okay, so let's call Dennis Prager.
Let's call Dennis Prager.
Dennis and I, I really appreciate Dennis and I'm going to.
To add this concept to the book for the chapter on processing.
The fiddle order is this.
Is it this?
It could be this.
It's all part of the processing.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, man.
Hello?
Is this the legendary one and only Dennis Prager?
I'll get him.
I'll get him.
Connected by that voice.
Dennis, how are you?
How are you doing?
I'm probably doing as well as much of the country.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous with hope.
Nervous with hope.
So you're watching all the scores.
You're watching all the things that's coming up.
Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Arizona.
How are you feeling about it tonight?
Well, Hugh Hewitt is calling in.
Sorry about that.
How am I feeling?
Okay.
I'm worried about this notion, this utterly irresponsible notion, that in Pennsylvania and Georgia, they stop counting at 10.30 so that they can go to have a nice night's sleep.
Like, they don't owe it to the country.
I'm kidding.
100%.
They should be a job.
They stopped counting at 10.30.
Right.
And Pennsylvania's rule that they could count ballots until Friday.
What?
That is infuriating.
Yeah, no kidding.
Two rogue states.
That's why I'm telling you, I don't think we don't know.
So you said Pennsylvania, Dennis, and what was the other state?
Georgia.
Georgia.
So let me ask you.
Yeah.
So then here's a question for you.
Can we find out the results without those two states?
It's possible.
It depends on Michigan, Wisconsin, and even maybe even Minnesota.
Look, the only absolutely clear thing is that the pollsters were wrong again.
Trump may not win, but the pollsters look absurd, and I don't know why people take them seriously.
It's like voodoo.
Dennis, you've been around politics for a while.
How often have you seen states just assign the middle of the night?
We're not going to count tonight.
I don't recall this happening.
I don't recall a lot of things.
I don't recall in the history of America people who didn't sign up to get an absentee ballot.
Tens of millions of people get ballots in the mail.
I know so many individual cases of it gone awry.
My friend's daughters moved from California like eight years ago to Texas.
They got ballots in California and ballots in Texas.
Wow.
So do you think there can be other states tonight, like in Michigan or Wisconsin, that can just say, we're not counting tonight until tomorrow or the next day?
If in fact it's that close and they haven't done the mail-in ballots, that's probably what they'll announce.
Can they legally do that?
States can do whatever they want.
I mean, it's the advantage and disadvantage of the system.
I prefer states having power.
But when Democrats run states, you get corruption.
There is no exception to that rule of which I know.
And this is another example.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, what are they going to do with those ballots overnight?
That's my concern.
Wow.
My concern is that they'll figure out where that was.
Did you ever notice that whenever they find ballots in close races, they're always Democratic ballots?
They never find Republican ballots.
They never get lost.
Isn't that astonishing?
So you sound very optimistic.
No, I said I have hope.
And let's put it this way.
I was utterly pessimistic four years ago.
I am more optimistic this time.
So for whatever that's worth, I have a theory that optimism and pessimism are both worthless.
I'll happily go on your podcast. and give my theory on pessimism and optimism and their worthlessness.
Well, I definitely look forward to that because when you talk, you make the mind work because your perspective is always a little bit different.
But here's the last question for you before we let you go and you can go on, Hugh Hewitt.
What is the biggest difference, in your opinion, between a Biden 2020 versus a Hillary 2016?
There's no difference.
The Democrats have become a left-wing party in the last 20 years.
They are not a liberal party.
If they were a liberal party, I would still vote Republican.
But I would be able to sleep at night.
I didn't stay up all night when Bill Clinton won.
I didn't vote for him, but so be it.
He was a liberal.
He wasn't a leftist.
But now it's the Destroy America Party versus the Republicans.
That's the difference.
So that's what you're calling a left-wing.
Because I just wanted for our listeners to understand exactly.
This is Ray Crockett, two-time Super Bowl champion with the Denver Broncos.
Ray Crockett, go ahead, Ray.
And I just wanted you to clarify more of what you're calling a left-wing disc so that we know why did you not sleep?
Because of.
Okay, because of the left.
All over the world, the left hates America.
The American left is no different.
And the proof is the example of the 1619 lie of the New York Times that will be taught to almost all school children in America.
America was founded to have slavery.
That was its purpose.
The revolution did not start America.
Slavery started America.
The idea that America is founded in slavery, for every country on earth, every ethnicity, every race, every religion has slaves, every single one.
But they single out America because they hate it.
Brazil got 12 million slaves.
America got 360,000 slaves.
Are they attacking Brazil?
No, because Brazil is not a threat to the left.
America is a threat to the left.
Because America is a capitalist success.
It is a religious success.
Everything they hate, we've been successful in.
Who's they?
Who's the left?
Yeah, because I like it.
The left is the people who consider America needing fundamental transformation.
They are people who do not believe in the excellence of capitalism.
And most, even bigger than that, they do not believe in free speech.
The left, since Lenin, there is no exception.
I've studied the left my whole life.
The left has always, there is no exception, suppressed free speech wherever and whenever it has power, from Vladimir Lenin and the Russian Revolution to the university campus in the United States today to Google, YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook and Twitter.
Twitter's the worst.
So you say that big tech is the current leftists?
Insofar as free speech is concerned?
Absolutely.
I just want to know who you mean by that.
Yeah, what about speech and protest?
It's a very fair question.
I'll answer everything you ask.
Does speech and protest go the same?
I'm sorry?
Does speech and protest are that the same as far as your freedoms?
Yeah, you're totally free to protest in the United States.
Nobody says no.
You're not free to riot.
You're not free to loot.
You're not free to burn.
You're not free to smash.
But you are certainly free to protest.
So why were the other side, why were the Republicans so upset at the free protesting that Colin Kaepernick started then?
Because he was ruining the sport.
And they weren't against.
They never said he wasn't free to do it.
You're free to burn the American flag as far as we're concerned.
What if Colin Kaepernick could burn the flag before a game?
Is he free to do so?
Absolutely.
Free doesn't mean you should do it.
This is the first time in American history that sports have been politicized.
What if people took the knee who are pro-life?
What if pro-life athletes?
America has abortion.
I'm not going to stand for the national anthem.
I would be just as upset.
I do agree with the hypocrisy.
I think that obviously Tim Thibault is a good correlation to make there.
He was given incredible amounts of scrutiny for worshiping his Savior.
And then he still did it, but now everybody's saying, well, Colin Kaepernick should be able to do it.
And I think there's a massive amount of hypocrisy there.
But I don't, I do think that we need to be really careful in our professional sports about what we align with.
I mean, so professional sports in history, right, they've aligned with breast cancer, right?
Everybody wears pink.
They've aligned with Lou Gehrig's disease in baseball, right?
But when you start to bring in an organization like Black Lives Matter, and you have to be able to compartmentalize this, once again, there has to be logic here, right?
So is the Black Lives Matter movement important?
Yes, but the organization is crap.
Okay, so I want somebody.
I've been asking this for weeks.
I've been asking this for actually months.
I want somebody to show me all the massive amounts of money that Black Lives Matter has raised.
I want you to show me one black family that's benefited from it.
I want you to show me a scholarship.
I want you to show me a house payoff.
What do you think about that?
What do you think about that?
Because you can't.
What you're saying is so true.
Let me make it very clear.
The left cares about blacks as much as communists cares about workers.
Communists use workers to get into power and then they craft on the workers.
The left doesn't care about any group.
It uses them to gain power.
The left doesn't care about women.
The proof is that when biological men race against biological women in high school sports, they think it's fair.
They don't care.
It's a non-issue protecting women.
The elementary right to race against people of your own sex.
The communists, the left has always used groups.
The president has done more for blacks.
If you care about blacks, you should have voted for the Republicans.
If you care about being angry, then you should vote for the Democrats.
So the question is, if I am a black, I have two choices.
Do I want a better life or do I want to shit on America?
And the Republicans give a better life, how?
Oh, because it's the lowest black unemployment rate because it says we are not going to lower standards for blacks because unlike the left, we believe blacks are just as capable as every other group in America to succeed if they work hard.
But if you say people should work hard, according to the left, you are now a racist.
If you say that you're colorblind, according to the left, you are now a racist.
If you say there shouldn't be all black dormitories, according to the left, you are now a racist.
Every liberal idea is opposed by the left.
They believe in all black dorms.
So does the Ku Klux Klan?
I can't say that I got that from the left, but.
I mean, you say you know a lot of people.
Would you?
Yeah, I do not agree with that.
What you're saying, I haven't really fully heard a lot.
Okay, I think Charles Blow has done blacks more harm than almost any living writer.
He teaches his kids in his own columns.
He teaches his kids that whites hate them.
Is that a lie or is that a lie?
I'm a Jew.
If I taught my Jewish kids that Christians hate them, I would be doing the biggest disservice to my children.
It's a form of child abuse to raise a black kid to think whites hate him.
He's abused his children, Charles Blow.
Dennis, as a fellow member of the tribe, M-O-T, why do 75% of Jewish people vote Democrat?
What's wrong with them?
American Jewry has become an embarrassment to this Jew who has done so much for Judaism.
I wrote the most widely used introduction to Judaism in the English language, the most widely used commentary on the Torah at this time.
I founded a synagogue, a Jewish day school.
I was a leader in the Soviet Jewry movement.
I am embarrassed by my fellow, 75% of my fellow Jews who have traded in Judaism for leftism.
That is their new religion.
The Jews who believe in the Torah are Orthodox, and they vote Republican.
So at what point did it, I guess, did it change for me?
Because I'm wondering this myself.
Why do so many blacks vote Democrat other than Republican?
Because they, just like the Jews, they have accepted the brainwash that conservatives hate them.
Donald Trump has done more for the Jews than any president, virtually any president of my lifetime.
And 60% of Israeli Jews support Trump.
Of Israel's Jews, interesting, isn't it?
American Jews are unique in their leftism.
Unique.
Wow.
You have a follow-up for that, Adam?
I mean, you had that question, so you got a follow-up as a fellow Jew.
Yeah, well, obviously, if you're an Orthodox Jew, you tend to be more conservative.
That's just why.
If you're an evangelical Christian, you tend to be more conservative.
That's correct.
I agree.
Which makes the case for religion, doesn't it?
Dennis, this is Matt.
I got one question on my end.
You know, come from the military, Marine Corps.
My family comes from the Philippines.
And this is a conversation for, I think, a lot of our listeners, first time listening to the show.
Why isn't government not supposed to fix your life?
Okay, in one second, I'll answer.
I have to figure out because I owe my Salem Radio.
Sure, sure.
Okay, I'm going to go on.
If you guys want to continue this after I go on Hugh Hewitt, I'll be happy to.
Yeah, Dennis, just send me a TechSoup.
Why don't you send me a TechSoup when I'm done?
Okay, you guys.
Thanks, Sue.
Don't take out the last question.
It's a good one.
We're going to come to when he comes back.
Sue, just send me a TechSoup.
I want to go back to something real quick.
I want to go back to something because we were talking about this sort of accountability of the BLM organization.
And where this money is going, because this is really fascinating to me.
So according to on June 2nd, Black Lives Matter raised $41 million in 24 hours.
$41 million.
Their bail funds alone are $90 million.
The money they raise to bail people out of jail is $90 million.
$100,000, 200 students, $500 each.
That's the scholarship program.
500 bones, huh?
That's it.
No.
First and foremost.
Well, first and foremost, I'll be the first to say, as far as Black Lives Matter, I'm more of a dig deep inside of what you're about before I support.
And there were some things that in their curriculum that I didn't.
That's why I'm saying our sports franchises need to be wiser than this.
Wiser than this.
Don't you think aligning yourself with an organization who can't seem to account for all the money that they've raised and where it's going and what they're using it for?
And then they give this piddly ass $500 scholarships.
You raise $41 million in a day.
That's what has happened not only to the organizations, but that's what happened to some of the owners, to be honest.
If we're on the same page and speaking the same thing, they're aligned themselves with Donald Trump, not knowing that he was saying do some of the things he did.
That's why they pulled back.
It was like, wait a minute.
You didn't tell us you were going to do that.
Are they calling paying people's bail scholarships?
No, no, that's not the problem.
That was the number that they raised.
That was for me, but that was.
Hey, by the way, CNN's reporting that it's a very close election.
It's going to come down to four states.
Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
I think Biden is winning in Arizona big time.
I think Trump's winning Michigan right time.
I think Trump has a small lead in Wisconsin.
And look, this is very small.
I don't need Trump will get Wisconsin.
That's why they shut it down in Pennsylvania.
They're going to figure out how they can cheat and screw him over.
I just think they're killing Trump in Arizona.
I think.
He's up by 10%.
Yeah, he's up.
Yeah, 53.
Yeah, I mean, that was about 8%.
He's going to win Arizona.
Zona goes to Biden?
What?
No, I'm looking at it.
Unless the votes are going to be a little bit more than 100%.
Exactly what you said.
I'm looking at it right now.
287 Trump, 249 Biden.
That's the tail of the tape right now.
With or without Pennsylvania.
No, that's Pennsylvania in there.
Okay, for Trump.
Trump's up 400,000 votes in Pennsylvania right now.
Okay, boy, that'll take one massive cheating effort, but I'm sure they're up for it.
400,000 is a lot to catch up on.
Where it is right now, who's got it open right now?
Hey, what are the odds that one of those precincts burns down in the next few days?
Let me ask you this.
Because I'm getting this vibe about the ass.
Before Trump, were you always a Republican?
I don't know.
Now, real talk.
Here's the thing.
This isn't about the children.
This is about a fundamental change in the country.
What's the fucking thing?
Let me take a drink.
I know I'm speaking to a few of the people at this table when I say it.
You were asking a question.
You guys can't be listening.
What are you- I just think that's what I'm doing.
All I say is let's roll this out.
Because I'm going to be honest.
I'll just say this.
And I told PB this, look, I told PBD and I told Matt, I'm for what is right.
Like, I'm not far left.
You can't put me far left or far.
That's why I wanted to know what far left really was.
Because maybe I'm associating myself with the wrong thing.
I just wanted to hide to hear away, man.
What the hell?
You just found out that you're a conversation.
I might need to go to Iran.
I don't want to welcome you.
But no.
No, what I'm saying is because as strongly as I hear And the cheating and this and this and this and this.
You're a very, very character.
Okay.
That you are.
Okay.
But no.
I just want to know what is the background.
I think there's a certain percentage of people that are underestimating what the real agenda for the people that want power is on the left.
That's not the question I asked you.
How long have you been a Republican?
Yeah, but it doesn't matter because I really don't.
No, it really doesn't.
Because this is a vacuum.
This is a different situation.
If it doesn't matter, then you're doing what the politics say.
How long have you been a Democrat?
I've been a Democrat all my life.
He has as well.
He's voted.
He's never voted for a Republican president.
Well, yeah, I've been a.
Well, you have a Trump who have.
You want for Tom Bob Trump?
My passion.
And the reason, excuse me, the reason was because I researched it more.
Because, like I said, the mind is a terrible thing to wait.
You've been not researching lately.
No, no, no.
Lately, I have been researching.
And that's when you flip.
Yes.
What are you most excited about?
What about before I went from Obama to Trump?
I started researching a lot more.
And I started to look at more than, and that's why in my PSA, what I did with NFL.
I said, make sure you research the candidates.
Choose who you want and what great feedback and what you want.
Because at the end of the day, great feedback.
That's what you have to do.
You just jump on the demo.
You know, if you just jump on it and say, oh, because he's a, you know, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Yes.
Who would have been your ideal choice Democratically as a candidate?
To be honest, the pickings were slim and that was that was a sad.
See, I don't think they were because I think Tulsi Gabbard got the shaft.
And I think she's miles ahead of Kamal Harris.
I would agree with that as far as on apology.
Tulsi way before I was a Paula.
For sure.
But you're ideal.
You said as a president, though, are you saying as a president or as a vice?
You said it doesn't matter, either one.
I mean, and see, here's the thing: when you come and talk about being a president, do you have the background resources?
Because all that stuff comes into play as a president.
See, you know that, right?
Are you like a good picture?
Barack Obama did not have a lot of experience.
But you're talking about experience.
I think you just showed.
I said experience, backing, not the whole thing.
Okay.
But you're talking about the totality of circumstances.
And Barack Obama did not have the totality of circumstances and he still became president.
So who would have been your ideal candidate?
Well, let's just say this.
It was time.
Oh, certainly.
So I think that he was backing.
Okay.
Yes.
I think we would have gone.
I would have gone maybe, I would have even looked at maybe Colin Powell.
For sure.
Before Barack Obama.
He didn't want to do it.
You know?
He didn't want to do it.
I would have looked at Condoleezza Rice.
Yeah, before I would have looked at Barack Obama.
Time was ready for her, but Colin Howell, perfect.
Okay, Connie was ready for it.
Connie is the most ready for it.
She didn't want it, but here, I got somebody to call who's a former Honduras immigrant, and he's got some thoughts here.
Let's see what he has to say.
He is currently in Florida.
Here's what I think it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, awesome.
Tom's not going to answer that.
Are you Tom?
Well, no, you can see him skipping it.
He skipped what I asked.
But my passion has nothing to do with being a Republican.
My passion comes strictly from who I believe wants to control the left and what their plans are to do to this country.
That's what I'm opposed to.
Marvin Delvalla, how are you?
This is Patrick Ben David.
Pat, what's going on, buddy?
How are you?
I am doing good.
So what do you think about the madness going on?
I know you're in Orlando, Florida right now.
What do you think about everything that's going on right now?
It's 11:30 where you're at.
Patrick, first of all, you know, I'm extremely happy that we were able to deliver Florida.
Here's the guy that sounds like Julio Iglesias that have to somewhere somehow explain to everybody the many blessings that we have in this country.
You know, this is a place where what happened with the last beacon of hope, the shining light on the heel.
What happened to those days when people actually believed that there was a place where we were able to go to and see it as a real place for hope for people?
This is the people where people are dying to come to Pat.
I was 18 years old and I was dying.
I was literally dying crossing the border to come into this country.
And so many blessings that have been afforded to me because of this country.
So many blessings that, so many things that I was able to do for my family.
But I'm going to tell you, the level of misinformation that's taking place right now is just beyond understanding for the average person.
We need new voices.
What you are doing right now, what that beautiful group has going on right now with you, it's just, we need more of it because right now it is misinformation.
Look what was done out of Jerusalem.
The only president that actually Kendall kept a process, a promise that was going from president to president.
Look what has been done in terms of unemployment levels lower than ever for African Americans, for Latinos.
And you know what?
Somewhere, somehow, it does not registrate.
I expected a landslide, you know, and to be done and over with.
So I am here to tell you that we definitely, I think this is definitely a call to action.
Everybody has to become a little more serious about where we're getting the sources of information and what we're going to do about it moving forward.
I think that we need a new set of voices.
So Marvin, you think tonight Trump's winning by landslide?
That was my projection.
I was very comfortable going into this thing.
You know what?
I don't think we need to worry about this process.
I think this is on the back.
It's a little closer than I expected.
I'm a little uncomfortable about where we are because I was hoping that people were going to be able to see what was actually happening and taking place throughout the country, opposed to what all the people are saying that is taking place throughout the country, which is not the truth.
The fact of the matter is that what this man has managed to do, a man who was never a politician, right, what this man has managed to do is nothing less than remarkable.
And I'm having a hard time understanding why people didn't get to see that.
Well, from the sound of it, it sounds like you're a die-hard Biden guy.
So what can we say?
All right, listen, all I'm telling you is that, yeah, you know, they talk about social programs because they don't want to call it socialism.
They keep talking about all these Trojan phrases that get to be introduced.
And you know what?
When I came into the country, I used to believe that that party was a party that was for the people.
And then I realized that, you know what, they are harming the dreams of so many people that can actually be taken away.
Literally, they can rob away what truly is the last hope in this planet.
I mean, literally, when you're talking about American dream, when you're talking about you becoming whoever you want to become, Pat, I'm a guy.
I came here.
I didn't know anybody.
I didn't speak the language.
I made a million dollars for the first time when I was 27 years old.
And I keep doing that over and over again.
I've reinvested myself in three different industries now.
And the only reason why I was able to do that is because of this beautiful country, because you have a constitution that allows you to do that.
But moments like this get me nervous.
I'm hoping that everybody is paying attention.
And if we make it happen, I hope that better voices will come out of this moment to be able to tell the story just a little better.
Marvin, it's Matt.
You know, you have an influx there in Orlando of people from Venezuela in your organization.
What are they telling you?
What are they telling you about their experiences coming from Venezuela?
Socialism, now here in America, capitalism.
They couldn't, first of all, they're having a little bit of a hard time even understanding why is this even a concept.
You know what I mean?
Seriously, like I have today.
I kept everybody very busy and away from, you know, like literally, it's 11.30.
We just finished training with about 150 associates.
And I was keeping everybody.
But I do have, like you're saying, I have a very large Venezuelan community and saying people don't understand what, like right now you go to the supermarket and you're not second guessing that the cereal is going to be there, that the milk is going to be there, that the water is going to be there.
In Venezuela right now, even if you have the money, you're going to a place where you don't know if that's going to be there for you.
And if you think that that cannot happen to us, then you don't know how a politician can play with the system just to stay in power.
Well, Marvin, you got to follow up on the market.
Yeah, Marvin, Levi has got a question for you.
I just wanted to ask, because we keep hearing the capitalism and socialism.
What is so bad?
Like, for instance, if, just by chance, if it were to happen that Biden wins, what would that do to capitalism?
Well, I mean, where do you want to start?
Do you want to start?
No, I just want to hear it.
Because some people don't think it would be changed.
I mean, do you want to start with taxes?
Do you want to start also with the simple fact that every single one of the small businesses that are trying to get going right now?
Look at New York.
I mean, it's going to be shut down again.
California is going to be shut down again.
And that is an intentional position to create a dependency.
Like, you don't understand it.
But Boxyli, you do know that.
The best way to secure a vote is to make sure that the person will be dependent on you.
Because when another guy comes in to try to take it away from you, you don't want to give it up.
Once somebody's getting something for free, listen, I spent half of my life in New York.
I know I sound like Koole Eglesius, but I'm a Brooklyn boy, okay?
And I had people working for me.
They know how to milk the system.
I know people that I employed that would say, listen, why should I go to work when they were willing to give me, if I make an extra thousand dollars, I will qualify.
I don't qualify for any help.
But mind you, this is somebody that didn't need any help.
So to your question, listen, I think that there is a place for government.
And I think that there is people that actually do need some help.
But unfortunately, we are at a place where politics and politicians are more concerned about getting elected to the point that any social program is being used for re-election, not to really help the needy.
There's a lot of people that do need some help right now.
They're not getting it.
As a matter of fact, it's the people that know how to get around the system that are getting some help.
And so if you're asking me what would be bad about socialism, anything that can be used to actually hold back what it would be, the natural desire to evolve, to improve, and to build something that would be yours.
That is the one, the one, how can I put it, organic, natural gift that we have in this country.
You can actually make something out of your own.
Anything that somewhere from hell wants to move people away from that idea, it's a very unfortunate situation.
And the issue is not just socialism.
The issue is how socialism is being introduced by this very particular group that we have in power right now.
Marvin, you're amazing.
Thank you for your time.
Love you, brother.
Tell everybody I said hello.
Guys, appreciate you.
Thank you for your voices.
Guys, by the way, a couple things.
I want to show you guys a video we just got right now from New York.
Don't play it yet.
Before we do, I got a couple things.
We got two people that paid $100 that just came.
I want to give a shout out to these guys for a couple reasons.
One of them wanted to send a message to Tom Zenner, which I'll give here in a minute.
Junior still gave $100, said, Tom, just answer the damn question.
Stop beating around the bush.
Did you ever vote Democrat?
Okay.
And then we had Daniel Bayburn who said, thank you for being a virtual mentor and leader to Aspire.
Become.
Shout out to SawSnake for his amazing work so far.
Waiting for you guys to tag crypto one of these days and possibly handle future elections.
Shout out to Roy and Mario.
Thank you, Daniel.
And then we got another one here that came in, which I want him to call in.
So I hope you're listening.
It's an Armenian guy who said the following.
I would love to have you on.
Just paid 50 bucks.
Stephen Cavignon said, are you kidding me?
Small businesses are dying right now because of the incompetent handling of the COVID crisis.
The policies Trump put in place are the most socialist policies any president has ever put in.
So Stephen, send us a text at 310-340-1132.
310-340-1132.
We want to hear your passions.
I cannot.
But having said that, guys, show us what's going on in front of Trump Tower because Adam and Ray need a bailout.
We need something.
We are struggling.
So this is what, in front of Trump Tower, in New York right now.
5th Avenue.
Great.
Is he talking dirty to his girl?
I can't.
It sounds like he's saying that.
I'm going to take you to Trump Tower.
I don't see you back.
That's a racist comment.
I thought he's just reading from the medical dictionary.
See that?
Nerve damage, that's what he's saying.
Black.
He says nothing to see.
Okay, nothing to see.
This is the most exciting video I've ever seen.
Hector del Torio.
This is the video you guys wanted me to show fighting, waiting for like a fight, fist fight.
I swear to God, like, you know, we thought there's going to be some action.
This guy's flirting with the guy.
He could be an Uber driver.
Same, you know, right.
I got to.
You said everything is coming.
Come here.
You need to have some of your views.
See?
Hang on, go back to that video.
I'll show you what you're trying to show us.
No, no, no.
Where you were at the end?
Oh, here?
Stephen.
Where are you, Stephen?
Two.
One.
The guy at the mailbox.
He's voting.
He said it in Spanish.
Good eyes.
Let me tell you, that's why.
Okay, so we're about to call Stephen Caviana.
Okay, Stephen, send your number.
I'm calling you right now.
Brace yourself.
Stephen is not a fan of the game.
Can we get him to tell us if he's a Democrat or not?
Phone number.
Let's make that call.
All right, let's make that call right now.
Tom, you got people.
Meanwhile, we have to answer a question.
I'm going to keep.
I wanted to stay on the podcast.
I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, just the truth will set you free, Tommy.
That's all we have to do.
People are paying money for you just to be honest.
$100.
I'm honest.
I get my money there.
I'm going to match that $100.
This guy just put a million dollars in the answer to the question.
Okay, you want me to answer the question?
Dennis Drake was on, on hold waiting for a call.
Oh, and we got to, okay, we'll have to wait.
Tom's going to answer our question.
Okay, here's the answer.
The answer is yes, because Donald Trump used to be a Democrat.
There's your answer.
That's not an answer.
It's all good.
Let's call Stephen, and then we're calling Dennis.
Dennis, Sue, if you're listening, we're going to call Stephen.
We're coming to you next.
That's you.
Oh, shit.
Hang on.
Hang on.
I called.
I put on speakers.
Hang on.
All right.
We got it, Stephen.
He's in.
Stephen, how are you?
Good.
What's up, Pat?
How you doing, brother?
I'm good.
Hey, before you ask me any questions, there's a guy from your agency, PHP agency, who reached out to me, Ruben.
Amazing guy.
Love what you're doing there.
I listened to your podcast.
You're an awesome guy.
You are a manhood yourself.
You came as an immigrant.
My parents were as well.
So love your story and just want to share my appreciation.
I appreciate you for giving me a call.
Much love, man.
Much love.
So tell us your position.
You're saying, you know, small businesses has taken a big kid because of Trump's policies.
Take the lead from there.
Tell us why you're saying that.
Yeah, well, to give you some background.
So when I was younger, I mean, since I was like 15 years old, I've listened to Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh.
I was a die-hard conservative, voted for Mitt Romney in 2012.
I thought Obama was a pretty good president his last four years.
And, you know, I debated between Clinton and Trump in 2016, and I was leaning more to Trump.
But what I've seen as a true conservative, and I guess as a true capitalist, in my opinion, you know, a lot of you guys are calling, are saying you're capitalist.
The biggest thing from a socialist standpoint is you got to look at what's happened during this COVID crisis.
And I'm not blaming Donald Trump for the COVID crisis itself.
I'm not saying that he caused COVID and he spread it all over the world and blah, blah, blah.
Like, you know, you see in the media every day.
What I am saying is that his handling of the situation has been absolutely sad.
As a leader of the free world, as a person.
How would you have done that, Stephen?
Why don't you?
So let's go because we got to call Dennis next.
What are the socialist policies?
You would have done it.
I want to know about that.
How would you have done it?
I think in California, what I'm seeing is a lot of people who are claiming, oh, masks and fire Fauci.
Don't wear masks.
Nasks don't work.
COVID's fake.
It's his mask mandates come from state government.
And these are individuals.
The legitimacy he's giving to QA non-the thing that he was saying with how they're claiming that the Democrats have started COVID for Bill Gates to inject his vaccine.
All of that stuff is clearly false.
There's science behind what's going on.
And it doesn't help us when the leader of the free world isn't uniting the United States of America, whether you're Democratic or Republican, when you're telling people, hey, this is a serious issue, guys.
You guys got to stay at home.
And this is something he knew about back in January when Bob Woodward, the man who exposed the Richard Nixon campaign, actually reported on this and said, hey, yeah, it's airborne.
Bob, it's airborne.
It's something that's in the air.
I hear you, brother, but these are not socialist policies.
You told him as a president.
And if you're not actually saying that to the American people, why are you holding back?
To me, my intellectual, what I'm thinking is because he was in an election year and he wanted the stock market to be high.
Yes, he did do well in the economy, but you can't have a thriving economy without solving COVID.
It's that simple.
And you know that.
And from a foundational standpoint, you just can't do that.
And in terms of the socialist policies, I recommend that you guys look at a true capitalist by the name of Peter Schiff.
He actually reported on this, and he talked about what we've done during this COVID crisis to bail out quote-unquote small businesses and individuals is we've printed money out of the ass in order for us to keep the economy somewhat stable, in order to bail out companies like Boeing, in order to bail out small companies and smaller companies.
So I got a question for you, Stephen.
I got a question for you.
And everything you're saying on the stimulus side, we are on the same page.
So you are preaching to the choir here when it comes down to the stimulus.
But is it fair to say that both sides have strategies going into the 2020 election?
One side wants Trump gone, one side wants Biden to be elected.
Is that a fair assessment on both sides using strategies?
Well, can you repeat the question?
Is it fair to say that both of them leading into 2020 were looking for strategies to have the other person not get elected?
Meaning the left wanted Trump to be gone and the right wants Trump to be re-elected.
Is that a fair assessment?
That is a fair assessment from an individual standpoint.
I would say that, you know, you have to put the trust in whoever is actually preaching.
So if the Democrats are saying, hey, you know, believe in science, don't fire Fauci or don't go.
No, no, no.
All I'm saying to you is it's a very simple question.
It's not a long-winded answer.
It's just, do you agree that Democrats want Trump out?
And do you agree that most Republicans will want Trump to stay for another four years?
I agree.
Okay, fair enough.
So is it fair to say when COVID happened, he comes out and he says, we're shutting down China.
Biden says it's a mistake.
It's xenophobic.
And then Kamala goes in, not Kamala.
Nancy goes into the streets of Chinatown saying we shouldn't be afraid.
And then they say he did the right thing.
And then it comes down to stimulus where they say let's shut down.
And by the way, when you say people in California, it's the state.
Nobody in Florida closed down Disney World.
They opened it on July 16th and 17th.
It's your Governor Newsom that's kept it closed till today since 1959, which I don't know if it's 59, 55, I believe, since 1955, that Disneyland has been open.
It's only been closed five days, but ever since COVID under Governor Newsom, Disneyland has been closed 200 plus days till today.
Same company, two separate states, same CEO, two separate states.
Florida opened up, California didn't.
California had to fire 28,000 employees of Disneyland.
That's the state.
So watch where I'm going with this here.
Question for you.
So let's just say all these states who are liberal are shutting down.
They're saying you can't go out.
If you're a non-essential business, you cannot go to work.
So in New York, I can't go to work if I don't have an essential business.
Cuomo was doing an interview, and the lady asks him, who determines what's a non-essential business?
He says, we do.
He says, so what if I don't have an essential business?
And then Cuomo in the interview says, then go find an essential job.
Go find an essential job instead of not working in on it.
That's not a right answer to give.
So on this point, say Trump doesn't pass a stimulus.
Let's say Trump doesn't pass a stimulus.
Assume Trump does not pass a stimulus.
Assume all these states who have the right to make the decision because it's separate, it's state, they can do whatever they want to do different than the governor.
If the state opens up, if the states stay close and Trump doesn't pass stimulus, what do you think happens in that state?
And who do you think everyone hates the most first?
Who do they end up hating the most if there's no stimulus?
So there's a few things with what you just said.
There are three components to that.
First of all, I watched your video on the Disneyland shutdown in Florida, and I watched the whole thing minute by minute.
So I did appreciate your perspective on that.
You made a lot of good points.
So you're trying to answer that.
Give us 30 seconds to 60 seconds because Prager's waiting.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Biden and Kamala were not in the Oval Office when they received secret intelligence reports stating how dangerous COVID was in January.
That's a fact, okay?
They were not.
And the situation wasn't handled until March.
It was too late by then.
Secondly, in terms of how would you have kept these businesses alive if you look at Democratic-run cities like Los Angeles or I'm from Los Angeles.
I'm here in Los Angeles.
And you look at companies out here compared to Florida.
The biggest thing is the failures and the foundation of how you handled the COVID crisis in the beginning.
That's why it got out of hand the way it is now.
And that's why you have to create a stimulus package.
What I would have done differently is enacted specific mandates, mandates that would have kept workers safe.
Florida's doing a good job in Disney World.
That's a large corporation that can get sued if something goes wrong.
They're doing all the right things.
In terms of what's happening in California, it is a Democratic-run city, but there are a lot of cases here as well.
And we know that if we have the largest population in the United States.
You haven't answered a question, buddy.
Get to the answer.
You haven't answered the question.
So what do you think he should do?
If he doesn't do the stimulus, do you know what would have happened in America?
And those videos would have shown how terrible of a job Trump did not passing stimulus.
The economy, Dow Jones, when it dropped to 18,000, it would have gone to 9,500.
It would have been riots times 10.
There is no way in the world he's going to get re-elected.
So as an advisor, if you're saying something like, well, Biden and Kamala didn't have access to the information that Trump had, maybe Trump had access to other information that you don't have that he decided to pass the stimulus.
I'm not for printing money.
I am not.
But if you're going to use that argument, it backfires on you, brother.
It backfires on you because then you can say anything can.
Trump can use that argument against you to say, well, Stephen, I have 50 million different things that we go through with the data that you don't know about that we don't want to disclose to you.
The point is here that both sides have to play games to do whatever they can to pin the other side.
What Pelosi and Schumer tried to do is said he will never pass the stimulus.
Put it on his desk.
He'll never pass it.
And what does he do?
He passed it.
Dow went to 27.
The biggest mistake these state, the liberals, the biggest mistake they made is shutting down states.
They helped Trump.
It's the biggest mistake they made, shutting down their states, because he became the savior.
Democrats turned Trump into a savior, not Republicans, Stephen.
I know you hate to hear that because that's not what you want to hear.
But Democrats turned him into a savior.
No, you make a good point, and I agree with that.
I think for me, it goes back to understanding the information you have back in January and how bad the cases actually got in America.
Now, you're pretty much cleaning up a mistake that you made three months prior, and that's why you're seeing what you're seeing today.
I don't think that's the case.
I think in that part is the fact that, you know, when a pandemic first comes, like the same one that came under Obama and Biden, thank God it wasn't as deadly as some of the viruses were, or else we would have had, you know, 1% of 60 million.
The number would have been a lot higher.
1.5% of 60 million.
You're talking about a million people versus 200,000 people.
They were very casual.
There was no shutdowns.
They didn't have access to any information.
I don't want to argue with you, but the information on the slime flu is pretty clear from a scientific standpoint that it was not as deadly as COVID-19.
But what I'm trying to say to you is, you don't have that data right off the bat.
You don't get that data right off the bat.
So, meaning when you're saying in the January conversation, just so you know, I agree with you.
And if you say, well, Pat, do you not think that Trump would say something like that?
No, I do think Trump would say something like that.
You know, the whole Woodard comment.
I do think Trump would say something like that.
But I think so would Obama.
I think so would Bush.
I think so would Clinton.
I think so would any of these guys prior to him because they don't want that news to get out there because they're thinking, I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal.
Anyways, Stephen, I got to tell you, stick around.
Stick around.
If you're going to stick around, we may call you in a couple hours again if this thing's still going around because we'd love to hear your thoughts when this thing shuts down.
Thanks for taking the call, big guy.
I appreciate you so much.
Thank you so much for having me on.
I have all the most respect for you and your story and every other guest there.
I appreciate your time.
Much love, much love.
Have a good time.
Much love always.
Much love.
Smart guy.
No, no, no joke.
I like this guy a lot.
But you know what the thing is?
He's well researched.
No, no, I love what he's saying.
But that's the part.
What people don't realize is Obama gave birth to Trump, and Democrats are the reasons why Trump's going to get re-elected.
Democrats are the ones that helped Trump get re-elected.
When they said stimulus, the first thing I said is what?
Would a Republican ever pass a stimulus?
Hell no.
They're not going to pass the stimulus.
And then he said yes.
But because he did, it gave him the opportunity to make some Democrats say he's looking out for some voters, not Democrat politicians.
No, I'm saying the voters.
Democratic voters.
Let's call.
He's looking out for us.
Steven, if you're listening to this, Stephen, I got to tell you, much love, Stephen.
Very proud of you, buddy.
Okay, let me call.
Who is Stephen, by the way?
I have no idea.
I've never met him, but I just love the way he processes.
Value Tainer.
Stephen Commissioner.
On a serious note.
Okay.
Sue, I'm calling Sue.
All right, so we're going to go to your question.
Yes.
Because you will lead a question.
I think you had a question as well.
Follow-up.
You got to get the mayor of Denver on.
Hello, Bringer.
Dennis, how are you?
Pretty much the same as when we just making sure everything is okay in the state of California in the last 45 minutes.
Never know.
Everything is the same in California.
Thus far, there are no riots, of which I am aware.
Okay, excellent.
So you want to go back to the question, Matt, if you want to restate your question so the viewers know what the question is, and then Dennis will take the question.
Sure, Dennis, Matt Sapala here.
Yeah, I come from the military background, Marine Corps veteran.
Our family comes here from the Philippines, and oftentimes you have the question: why isn't government supposed to fix your life?
My question to you, Dennis: why isn't government supposed to fix your life?
There are many answers.
Let me give you one or two.
Number one, America was founded on the following belief.
Number one, to the extent possible, every individual must take care of himself.
Number two, he must take care of his family.
And number three, take care of his community.
This has been America's greatness, that we take care of each other.
And only as a very last resort do we have to go to the government.
There was not even, there were resorts before the last resort.
You would go to the church, for example, which was extremely powerful in helping people who had issues in their lives, like the Salvation Army, with people who were homeless and addicted.
And what they did was they gave them meaning in their lives, not just food.
Number two, the idea that the government should take care of people makes people inevitably selfish.
If I know that the government will take care of me, my family, and my community, then I won't, which is exactly what happens in Europe.
Americans give much more charity, and I'm not talking about rich Americans.
The exact same socioeconomic status American gives much more charity and volunteers much more time than the exact same socioeconomic status European.
Because Europeans believe if somebody's in trouble, including me, the government will take care of the person who's in trouble.
So people don't take care of other people.
Now, if you truly believe that the government will take better care of people than you, your family, your community, your church, your Kiwanis club, your Rotary Club, then you have, I think, a deeply naive understanding of what helps people.
So those are my two most immediate responses.
I love it.
Very well said.
Good.
Dennis, I guess you're saying happiness is a serious problem.
God bless you.
That's exactly right.
And because I know that happiness is a serious problem, I know that the biggest impediment to happiness in my life is Dennis, not America.
Correct.
Absolutely.
Why do you think that's a tough concept to embrace?
Because nobody wants to struggle with their own nature.
It's much easier to call America racist than to have people struggle with their own selves.
I wrote a column recently, something to the effect the title was that, what is it?
One second.
Let me try to remember it.
Oh, yes.
The left blames America.
Conservatives blame themselves.
That's the case.
You see, when I've said all of my life, the biggest difference between my religious education and the secular education that most Americans get is I was taught that the biggest problem in Dennis Prager's life is Dennis Prager.
And outside of the religious, Jewish, and Christian worlds, you're taught that the biggest problem in your life is society.
And that's a completely different outlook on life.
So do you not feel that the way some were, I'm not going to say raised, but the way in the circumstances we were brought up in, from education to not being able to get loans, to not being able to get houses, to you don't think any of that have anything to do with your mindset and mindset going behind that as far as doing better and being better?
Those were terrible things in American history.
The human being is flawed, and flawed people will do flawed things.
But America became ultimately the least racist, multi-ethnic society in the world, which is why 3 million black Africans moved to this country in the last 20 years.
So in other words, far more blacks have come to the United States voluntarily than came as slaves.
This is from the New York Times.
You could easily check it.
No, that's it.
I've written about it.
If America is systemically racist, are Africans morons?
No, they're just in a better situation.
We're not dumb.
We're going to take a better situation.
It was a better situation than apartheid and some of the stuff that was going on.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not going.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, no, excuse me.
This has nothing to do with apartheid.
No, no, no.
I'm saying situational.
You're saying there, are they morals to come here?
No.
The situation was better.
The people who come here are not South Africans.
They're overwhelmingly Nigerians and others from West Africa or from East Africa and Uganda or Kenya.
But my point is, they see what's going on in Africa.
So get the hell up out of there.
I mean, if you have a better situation, no one's a moron to go to a better situation.
If you are on record as acknowledging that it is better for a black to live in America than Africa, we are on the same side.
Oh, I'm definitely on, but I'm saying for a black that was born in the States, that came here, been here, lived here, and experienced like I have 53 years of being here, you may have a different mindset.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
If you're an African from Nigeria or wherever, Kenya, wherever you're from, not even from South Africa, you know, all of that, not being a part of apartheid, but you're right there next to it.
If I see the U.S., it looks a lot more appealing to me.
I know exactly what you're saying.
They're not comparing America to apartheid.
Most of the black Africans who come here came after Barthai died in South Africa and they never experienced it.
But no, what I'm saying, they're comparing it to what they know, is what I'm trying to tell you.
Their mindset is that there is infinitely more opportunity to live a good life in America for a black African than in Nigeria or Cameroon or Togo or Ghana or Uganda or Zambia.
I agree.
That's what they know.
So what I'm saying is the blacks that are in the states, though, that's all I'm saying.
The difference is when you compare, it's just like I was telling Patrick Bethetti, when you compare someone that comes from a third world country or from somewhere else, their mindset is going to be totally, totally different once they get to the states.
Because it's way better than that.
Once they get to the states, do they experience racism?
Do they regret it?
I'm sure.
No, they won't regret coming there because the opportunities are better.
But I'm sure they experienced some racism during some point in time.
I'm not sure if Patrick Beck David did, but I'm sure some of the Africans, well, I know for a fact, a lot of my friends in Nigeria, a lot of athletes that play in the NFL are Nigerian, and they've experienced racism.
But at the end of the day, the opportunities that this state, you know, the United States afford them, the country affords them, is way better than where they came from.
So your mindset is going to be different.
But what I'm talking about, if you just trace it back to the African Americans, the blacks that are here and have gone through all of the prejudice and all the other things, it's a total different mindset.
That's my point.
Yeah, and I have to say, I find that mindset is self-destructive.
A black American, like any other American from any other place, an Asian American, a Jewish American, an Armenian American, they should believe what is true.
They should be extraordinarily grateful for being in America.
Americans are not perfect people.
There are racists of all colors, but there is, I believe, an extremely small amount of racism.
Now, I want you to know that when I tell left-wing Jews that I don't think America is anti-Semitic, they say the same thing to me.
You don't know what the hell are you talking about.
There's a lot of anti-Semitism in America, except that I do know what I'm talking about.
Not only am I a Jew, I wrote one of the most widely used texts on anti-Semitism ever written.
It's called Why the Jews.
It's in print for 40 years.
I battled anti-Semitism.
This is the best country Jews have ever lived in.
This is the best country right now a black can live in.
Okay, so can I ask you this then?
In the same premise of what you just spoke about, and so eloquently you did, I'm in agreeance and in all states and all faces, I'm in agreeance.
But is there not room for change?
There's always room for change.
But the question that a black American needs to ask to be a happier human being is what is more important to change?
The social mores in much of black life, like the 80% who are born without a father in the house, or America's racism, which is the bigger problem for the average American black.
And if you say America's racism, you are all you're doing is condemning that black to blaming what is not the greatest cause of his or her problems.
Dennis is mad again.
I have a follow-up to that.
So, based on your dialogue here, how can we be better at taking how come it's so hard for people to take ownership?
And how can we be better at taking ownership?
Ownership of what?
Ownership of our situation, you know, ownership of responsibility.
The human being does not want to take responsibility.
That's what I said before in part one of our dialogue.
That is not human nature, is I don't want to take responsibility.
I want others to take care of me.
The human being who wants to take responsibility over his own life will be called a conservative.
Okay, so with that being said, what can a conservative do to take responsibility and get better at it?
Yep.
Well, I think that's the nature of conservatism: you take responsibility for your own life.
So, everybody could be better at doing that, but half this country believes that if you say that any minority should take more responsibility for their lives, that renders you a racist just by saying it.
That's like saying that if you give somebody who has heart disease a regimen of diet and exercise, you hate them because they don't like diet and exercise.
So, the question is: what do you want to do?
Do you want to help yourself or do you want to live in anger the rest of your life?
That is the choice that blacks face.
As far as Democrats are concerned, the angrier the black, the more assured we are of his vote.
Dennis, question for you.
As a fellow MOT, you know what I mean?
The March on Charlottesville.
Others don't know what you mean.
It stands for member of the tribe.
It's a fellow Jew.
Go ahead.
Yes.
Something that really stands out in my mind was that march on Charlottesville and the white supremacists with tiki torches screaming, what?
Jews will not replace us.
And then obviously, Trump came out and said the next day there were good people on both sides.
So obviously you're a Republican.
Obviously, you're conservative.
you're a Trump fan how do you grapple with that as a Jew seeing that there's nothing there's nothing to grapple with It's a gigantic lie.
We have a video on it from Steve Cortez, who used to work at CNN, a five-minute video called The Charlottesville Lie.
It is an enormous lie.
The president was referring to the two people on the statues demonstration.
There were two demonstrations in Charlottesville.
He was referring to the people who he was trying to calm things down, saying there are good people who want to take down the statues.
There are good people or fine people who want to get rid of the statues.
That's what he was talking about.
He made it clear in his press conference the next day that Nazis, neo-Nazis, white supremacists are not fine people.
Moreover, just common sense.
The man has a Jewish daughter, a Jewish son-in-law, and Jewish grandchildren.
You think he thinks they're a fine Nazis?
Thank you for clarifying that.
I'd like to, I'll follow.
I want to follow up on that.
That necessarily wasn't my question.
How do you grapple with seeing those supporters of Trump, because they support Trump, those people, saying those things?
Like, that obviously can't sit well with you.
Nothing to grapple with.
That assholes support the president is as irrelevant as assholes who support Biden.
So the fact that that is the most amazing answer ever.
Okay, so that doesn't make you feel any type of way.
You're not like, oh, those assholes, oh, they're zero.
Zero.
Oh, yeah.
My wife reminds me.
Richard Spencer endorsed Biden.
Okay, so there you go.
There's a white supremacist who endorsed Biden.
The whole thing, Nazis are a zero issue in the United States.
Zero.
I know more about anti-Semitism than 99% of my fellow Jews.
Okay?
They don't know what they're talking.
They hate the right, and therefore they believe the lies of CNN and the New York Times.
So there's almost nothing I can do because when you tell them the truth, it doesn't matter.
You're different.
When I explained to you Charlottesville, you said, whoa, I got to look into that.
Most of my fellow Jews will just say, no, that's not what happened.
Just denying the truth.
The president does not believe there are fine Nazis.
It's absurd.
I don't care if there's a fringe group of, of course, there were 330 million Americans.
Not everyone is an angel.
So can I ask you this then?
During this presidency, and once again, I'll be the first to say, I'm for right.
So I've been a Democrat, I've been a Republican, I voted both.
But during this presidency, there's been more racial tension.
There's been more racists come out of the woodworks.
Why do you feel that is?
I don't think there are more racists out of the woodwork unless you're referring to what I believe are the biggest races, the left.
I think the left have contempt for blacks.
That's why they're always speaking about them as victims and always lowering standards for blacks.
Well, no, what I mean by the different from the place, look, the people that we thought were gone and in hiding have seemed to come forward.
Ku Klux Klan, the white supremacists, whatever you want to call it.
Why do they feel that freedom and why do they feel that free?
Again, let's just put it that way.
They're an insignificant number.
Look, my answer doesn't satisfy you, which is fine.
No, no, no, I'm cool with your answer.
I will say it again.
Let me finish, please.
They are an insignificant group in America, Nazis and white supremacists.
Amazingly, I never met one in my life.
Also, when I grew up, there were far more of them.
When I grew up, there was a big Nazi march in Skokie, Illinois, because they, with the swastikas and hireling Hitler, and they marched there because there were so many Holocaust survivors who lived in Skokie, which is a suburb of Chicago.
So they picked the people whose families were butchered by Nazis to demonstrate there.
But they play no role in America.
Focusing on Nazis is an utter waste of time.
I agree.
I agree.
I just wanted to hear your answer.
And let's be clear.
I don't disagree, or your answer was always remarkable for me.
I just wanted to hear you answer it.
Can I have next question?
Thank you.
Sure.
Okay.
I've kind of been wanting to ask this all night, and I'm wondering if you're the best person to answer it.
I was severely disappointed that neither presidential candidate touched on the subject of firearms or the Second Amendment during either debate, especially given the fact that we've sold more firearms in America this year than any other year in recorded history.
Why do you think that is?
Because people saw that Democratic mayors and governors would not stop violence.
That's the only reason.
Had the rioters, not protesters, I have no issue with protesters.
Had the rioters been arrested, suppressed, and stopped, then people wouldn't think they have to defend themselves.
But they do.
Because if you live in a place with a Democratic mayor, they won't stop people from violence.
And they will allow people who've committed violence to get out of prison.
And they will have in California, you can steal up to $900 at a time, and it will not be a felony.
So they have invited this mass amount of thefts that have taken place.
And so you have, it's not Walmart.
What is the other one?
That they keep closing in San Francisco.
The third one just closed because people just helped themselves to the cash register.
Walgreens.
Walgreens.
Three Walgreens just closed in San Francisco because they know there's nothing will happen to them.
On camera, they just stick their hand into the cash register, pull out money, and pull out items from the Walgreens and steal them.
Thanks to the Democrats.
So, Dennis, to be fair, okay, and listen to me as I say this, to be fair.
Because right now, I don't know if anybody else feels this way.
You're sounding like a far, far, for what have the Republicans done that, in your opinion, could be done differently or better?
Yeah, the Democrats believe that if you commit a crime, you should be arrested.
It's a very notion.
Excuse me, the Republicans.
Right, right, okay.
Believe that you should arrest people who commit violence.
That's it.
It's not complex.
They don't believe you defund the police.
That's all you feel they could do better during this election?
The Republicans.
That's it.
The Republicans.
Tell me, what would you like them to do that you think is a good idea?
No, no, I'm asking you.
No, I'm asking you.
I think it's better than arresting people committing crimes.
If you're a character, I would like to know what it is.
That's what Republicans stand for.
Arresting criminals.
No, no, I mean in general.
I'm talking about the whole election.
Not just the, I understand that.
Anybody that commits a crime should be elected.
I think, Dennis, for you, Ray, what I would have for you is if you're asking that question, are you asking it because you have something in your mind or are you asking it because you want him to come up with something?
Well, no, what I'm asking, in general, because like I said, from what we've heard from Dennis, we all know he's not a Democrat.
We understand that.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, we all know that.
So I'm saying, from your standpoint, from your political view, from your experience and expertise, from a Republican standpoint, what do you feel could be done differently?
Or should have been done differently?
Nothing needs to be done differently.
The differently has been initiated by the Democrats.
Letting people destroy police cars, letting people burn down buildings, let people take over an area in the middle of Seattle and make it an autonomous place.
That's new.
The old-fashioned way was you stop crime by stopping criminals.
So I am for the old-fashioned notion that the innocent should be protected from the guilty.
The Democrats do not believe that.
Okay, so a better question probably will be this then.
From a presidential standpoint, do you feel Trump has handled himself as a president?
I think he's been, in terms of what he has done, he has been a great president.
In terms of his demeanor, that is not, if I were president, I would have a more presidential demeanor.
However, if there's an old Jewish saying, if my grandmother had testicles, she'd be my grandfather.
That's a black saying, too.
Now we're even page now.
My head.
I did not know it was a black saying.
Yes, we are in agreeance 100%.
Okay, so I like that answer, though.
That's really what I wanted to hear.
Adam, you got a follow-up.
Yeah, Dennis, I think you've definitely been our most fun person to speak with, most informative.
I think we all definitely appreciate where you're at.
Dennis's mind is, just so everybody knows here, have you guys, have you followed, do you know who Dennis Prager is right now or no?
Obviously, everybody, if you don't, Dennis Prager is probably one of the sharpest minds in America today.
Just so you know that, okay?
Sharpest minds in America today.
So go ahead with your question.
I have wanted to be involved in PragerU forever.
I'm so excited right now.
Go ahead, Adam.
One of the things that I don't like are just generalities.
The left does this.
The right does this.
Well, if you vote Democrat, then you're obviously a communist.
If you vote Republican, then you're obviously a racist.
I really don't like that.
I don't like generalizing things.
So in your mind, how many different wings are there of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party?
Meaning there's the super left, the Bernie's, the Elizabeth Warrens, there's the moderates, there's the Bloombergs, there's the Bidens.
On the right, there's the moderates, the K-6, you know, then you've got the Ted Cruzes.
How many different factions are on each side?
Would you just enlighten us on that?
Yeah, I'm happy to.
Let me first comment on generalizations.
I've actually written about this.
The mind that cannot generalize is a very unwise mind.
The issue with the generalization is not, is it okay to generalize?
Of course it is.
For example, if you take vitamin D, here's a generalization.
People with vitamin D do better against COVID.
That's a generalization.
Does it mean everybody who has vitamin D is immune to COVID?
Of course not.
So without generalizations, humans cannot make judgments about life and they are blind.
The question about any generalization is not, is it right to make a generalization, is it is, rather, is the generalization accurate?
That's the question.
So if I say that the left doesn't want to arrest criminals, that is an accurate generalization because I don't know anyone on the left who does.
There might be a lot of people who vote Democrats that wouldn't want to arrest.
Then you're not a leftist.
You're probably a liberal, which comes to the selection.
Wait, I think, Dennis, you and I have done this before.
Neither Adam or Ray have.
Can you unpack what a leftist means and what a liberal means?
Because it's unpacked.
You and I talked about this five years ago.
Okay, again, for all of your, everybody listening or watching, they should know that there's an article, take five minutes to read, on at least five differences between liberals and leftists.
And I have a video, also five minutes, six differences between liberals and leftists.
I'll give you a couple of them.
Liberals believe that the ideal is to be raceblind, that we should regard the color of a person's skin as completely unimportant.
That is the liberal view.
That is the view I was raised with as a liberal Jewish Democrat, which is how I was raised.
I still have that view.
I don't give a damn what color you are.
The color of your skin is as important to me as the color of your hair and of your shoes.
That's the liberal view.
The left-wing view is that race is just about everything.
That race is determinative.
That black should be capitalized.
This is a brand new thing, for example.
So color is very important to them.
Another difference.
Liberals have always been pro-capitalism because the only thing that has ever taken people out of poverty in large numbers is capitalism.
The left has always hated capitalism.
So a third, liberals have always been profoundly pro-Israel.
The left hates Israel, the left all over the world, including America.
So those are three.
I can give you three more.
I could give you five more.
So that's what's happened.
That's the difference between liberal and left.
The problem is liberals vote left.
So liberals vote for people who loathe liberalism.
I'll give you a fourth example.
Liberals have always been for free speech.
The left has never been for free speech.
There was no exception.
That's not a generalization.
That's a rule.
No leftist regime, no leftist power from the university to Lenin in Russia has ever allowed free speech.
Well, Dennis, I just found out that I'm a liberal.
No, I'm just trying to be funny.
It's very important for you.
This was so educational for me because I'm not a leftist.
But I've always said I'm not far left or I'm not far right.
I am for what is right.
So I'm a liberal for sure.
And I appreciate that.
What you just helped me to understand.
I appreciate it.
Likewise, Dennis, would you so are you saying on the left end of the spectrum, the super far left is literally what you would call leftists, and then towards the center, you know, 40-yard line, that's what you would call liberal.
A, is that correct?
Would you go back to my initial question on the different factions within each party?
Like, what's on the right?
If you're on the right, are you just conservative?
Are you a capitalist?
What's on the right side?
Yeah.
Yeah, the right, the truth is, pretty much the right is just basic conservative.
The Constitution should be obeyed.
Humans should take care of themselves, their families, and their communities.
It is better if people get married before they have babies, which, by the way, a professor of the University of Pennsylvania Law School wrote, 200 professors demanded that she not teach any longer at their law school for writing that middle-class values like getting married before you have babies is a good idea for everybody.
So that gives you a perfect example of a liberal anticonservative.
Liberals and conservatives, here's the irony.
Liberals and conservatives agree on far more than liberals and leftists do, but liberals still vote left.
That is very interesting.
Dennis, it's Matt.
I'm sharing with your hope here.
I'm looking at this map here in this TV.
Looks like it's getting more red and red as we continue speaking.
But in your opinion, what does a Trump presidency in these next four years, what does that look like?
Pretty much what it looked like for the first four years.
The man really does, I mean, you may loathe him, but you know what he stands for.
The guy stands up and says, I actually care about America.
His attitude towards COVID is my attitude.
We had a virus called the Hong Kong flu in 68, 69, killed the equivalent of 165,000 Americans.
Not one store, not one sporting event was closed down.
The lockdown has done far more damage than the virus.
The vast majority of people who have died would have died within a year because they were very old.
The chances of someone under 60 dying from COVID is like 0.005.
You are more likely to die if you are 25 of a car crash than COVID.
Do you wear a mask when you go out in public?
No, I don't.
But whenever I'm asked to, I put it on, whether it's an airplane or in a store.
I don't want to cause people aggravation.
But I know that in the vast majority of cases, masks are utterly useless.
This was basically written in the New England Journal of Medicine in July, in August, or July or August.
And then people started believing in masks.
It's like a rabbit's foot.
Why do you think the masks have become so politicized?
Because one half of this country has engaged in the religion of safetyism, where better safe than sorry has become the motto of the country instead of the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Why did they wear masks?
Why didn't they wear masks in 1968-69?
Land of safe.
Because they understood it's part of life.
Viruses happen.
People die prematurely on occasion.
We should.
I'm sorry.
And masks don't stop it.
This is unless you're wearing a surgical mask.
I'm feeding you answers, Dennis.
Dennis, is your wife giving you all the brains?
You spend time with me.
I'll have my wife on next time.
Then I will.
Follow up on the masks.
We just saw that England went into a month lockdown.
We're hearing similar things in other places in Europe.
What's wrong with them?
This is my theory, and it shows it's not politicized.
England is run by conservatives.
Israel is run by conservatives.
Conservatives have bought the Kool-Aid as much as everybody else, and I'll tell you why.
I've worked on this a lot.
Only Sweden didn't.
And Sweden is not hardly conservative.
So it shows that my take on this is not a conservative or liberal one.
Here's my theory.
Leaders in our time are scared.
They are scared of the media, and they are scared of academia, and they are scared that they will be said to have caused anybody to die.
Andrew Cuomo, who is responsible for a lot of the deaths in the nursing homes in New York City, but Andrew Cuomo said in the beginning when he locked down New York State, I don't know why people in Buffalo couldn't go to work because people in New York City were dying in nursing homes, but that's a separate issue.
And he said, if everything I have done saves one life, I will sleep well.
That's their attitude.
I have no responsibility for kids to go to school.
I have no responsibility to keep people their life savings intact in their little business that they founded.
I have only responsibility to prevent deaths.
But if that's the case, you should never raise the speed limit.
Every time we raise the speed limit, it is a guaranteed 10,000 more deaths.
Why do we raise speed limits?
If the only concern is who will, anyone will die, we have to stop almost everything.
So was it a mistake to close the cities down, in your opinion?
In the very beginning, no.
But as soon as the hospitals were not overflowing beyond capacity, it was a horrible mistake.
It was a crime.
Agreed.
Hey, Dennis, agree.
If the Democrat-run cities can't use it as a political move, if Trump wins, is it going to calm down?
Because Trump said you're not going to hear him talk about COVID much after November 4th.
What do you think?
If Trump wins, then we won't have a national lockdown as Joe Biden would like to see.
Joe Biden said during the we had a flu a few years ago while he was vice president.
And he said that he would not enter an airplane.
I have it.
I play it on my show regularly.
And I said at the time, I said, what kind of leader is this?
He's telling people not to go on airplanes because of the H1N1 flu.
And that's what he did.
This is not a leader.
He's a wimp.
Dennis, Sue, are you guys watching TV saying Joe Biden's about to make a statement shortly?
No.
How can I watch TV?
I'm talking to you.
I don't know if you guys have.
We're talking to you.
So I don't have the TV on when I broadcast.
Let me ask a different question for you.
Let me ask a different question for you, Wiz.
So you just talked about what's going to happen if Trump is president.
Flip it.
What if Biden's a president?
What's going to happen if Biden becomes president?
We will print a trillion more or two trillion more or three trillion more monopoly dollars.
We will give the younger generation debt that they will barely be able to pay.
We will keep in the dollar to the point where we will have an inflation that will be reminiscent of Germany before Hitler came to power.
We will have a massive government intrusion into people's lives because they will do for global warming what they are doing for COVID.
They will destroy the economy to save lives.
And small businesses like mine will tank.
Right, but they don't give a crap about small businesses because they're mostly Republicans.
They care about Walmart.
They care about Amazon.
Censorship, okay.
And censorship will grow immensely.
That is right.
Can you unpack the censorship part?
Because that's something that's very important, obviously, to you guys.
You went against Google yourself.
I remember I've watched the videos.
Sue and I have spoken about this before.
What do you mean by censorship is going to get worse?
Well, we are experiencing more censorship today than any time in American history.
It's not happening from the government.
It's happening from the universities, the media, Twitter, and, of course, the other tech companies.
They simply don't allow you to tweet more and more if they disagree with you.
Even when doctors, how many doctors did the Great Barrington Declaration?
No, no, they're like a thousand.
There were three who headed it.
Okay.
It was headed by doctors from Oxford, Harvard, and I believe Stanford.
And it's called the Great Barrington Declaration.
I think either 600 or 1,000 or more doctors signed it about how the lockdown is causing more damage than it is good.
And you cannot tweet out that declaration.
Twitter will suppress it.
So they don't believe in science.
They believe, trust scientists who we agree with.
If a scientist disagrees with Twitter, that scientist is suppressed.
So when you go back, do you say small businesses will tank?
I understand it.
Don't get me wrong.
I have restaurants.
I have small businesses myself.
But explain that for the listeners.
Why do you feel it would take?
Well, already, I mean, it's assumed in California that a third are out of business.
I mean, restaurants are notoriously minimally profitable.
It is a razor-thin margin.
It's very expensive to run a restaurant.
And if they're not full a good part of the time, then they start losing money.
And if you can't even enter them, which I can't in Los Angeles, which is beyond belief, I can, so listen to this, to show you the utter irrationality, aside from criminality of Gavin Newsom and Eric Garcetti.
Thank you.
I have been on planes plenty during the COVID thing.
I can eat without my mask on two inches from the guy next to me, six inches or ten inches from the guy in front of me, ten inches from the guy behind me without a mask.
But I can't eat without a mask eight feet from somebody in a restaurant.
Explain that to me.
That makes sense.
And I'll explain it to you because they care much more about Delta Airlines than the poor guy who runs Joe's Cafe.
So with that being said, some of those trillion, trillion dollars that they will be spending, you don't think they will spend them on small businesses?
The ones that we have.
Yeah, but it's very hard to direct every needed fund to the exact right person.
Also, that money, I don't know if it will sustain a business.
It's, you know, these people, these people, let's say they make $70,000 a year, which is not exactly a rich person in America today, but you can certainly live on it.
And are they going to get $70,000 from the government?
I mean, the government cannot supplant the income of a restaurant owner.
There's no reason to close it.
I mean, it's despicable.
Let people be free.
I'm 72 years old, and I just spoke at a rally with hundreds of people surrounding me and hugging me and taking pictures with me.
I'm not dead.
And if I die, then you know what?
It was worth it.
Because the purpose of life is not to live.
The purpose of life is to live fully.
To live free.
Hey, Dennis, do we have hope of things changing?
Wait, wait, Dennis, say that one more time before you get out.
The purpose of life is what?
Not to live, but to live fully.
I love it.
That's just.
Dennis, can things change?
I mean, Trump has lead in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia.
Will these governors still hammer us with these restrictions, you think?
Yeah, of course.
Why not?
So Dennis, when did you become Americans have become so docile, they don't take them to court?
That's part of my sadness about what has happened to the American.
50 years ago, Americans wouldn't have put up with this.
100 years ago, 150, 200?
Never, never.
This is new.
We have raised weaklings.
You know why?
They went to college.
So listening to your answers and listening to you in general, have you always been a Republican?
No, you said it was that.
Look, I'm a Jew from New York.
I was born Democrat.
So you were born Democrat.
So when did you switch?
When did the light?
When Reagan ran for his, you know, when Reagan ran during Reagan's first term, I switched to Republican.
And what was your reasoning?
I realized I was more and more voting Republican, but it was so hard.
When you're a Jew from New York, it's like being a black from New York or Chicago.
It's ingrained in you that you're a Democrat.
So, you know, the first time I voted Republican, I felt like I was eating a ham sandwich on young Kipper.
So you just helped me with this group and with my point.
It was your mindset.
It was your mindset from day one.
And you know what?
And the task, God gave us a mind to battle our mindset.
Exactly.
And have us think rationally.
So that's the problem that I'm facing now.
Your mindset.
Yes, exactly.
Talking to PBD and everybody else who's talking about capitalism, socialism, whatever.
Your mindset.
That's the battle that most of us are facing now.
And what we salute you for recognizing it.
It's to your credit.
Listen, I have so many others calling in.
I love you guys.
Thank you.
This was a very important.
That's why I did it part two.
Patrick, you do great work, and all of you were a joy to be with.
Dennis, you're the best.
Take care.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
I cannot tell you how big of a fan I am of that dude.
My freaking ears.
I am fangirling.
By the way, he is, just so you know, he is and his wife, one of the coolest cats.
First time I met him was, I don't know, 15 years ago.
He had a show on KRLA, and he had been doing it for a long time.
He's been on radio for a long time.
I don't know what the timeline is.
40 years, 35 years, been on for a long time.
Yeah, he was in LA as the Christian Jewish guy.
Did I take you to that event that Wayne Hughes home in Malibu?
Did you go with me that day or no?
Yes.
But did we go for him or did we go when the second one with you?
Oh, you went to the second one.
We were with Cooper and we saw the campaign manager of Bush and Clinton go at it.
That's right.
So he came one time.
John Colloff later became a governor.
I know you did.
I know he did.
Yes, I know.
So when we were there first time.
I'm just listening to him.
Every time I listen to Dennis, I'm like, this guy.
Well, the common sense.
One of a kind.
But you know what, though?
What I like about him is that he has his views and his viewpoints, but he also has an open mindset to hear and listen and respond without being prejudiced.
Is that word again, mindset?
Yes, without being worried.
And I want to touch on something that you were talking about earlier that has to do kind of with mindset, but really more about perspective.
And I think that's one of the words that maybe you are trying to use tonight is perspective, right?
So I think that you asked him, how long have you been a Republican?
I'll give you my answer.
My whole life.
I was raised that way.
My grandfather was from Sicily, and he came here as an immigrant, American dream situation, was an entrepreneur, owned a window washing business all throughout East Texas.
But one of the things that he told me that never resonated with me literally until after last election, and he told me this several times growing up, he goes, you have to put yourself in a position where you're the minority.
Because if you don't do that, you're never going to get a perspective.
And so I don't know if we haven't really had a chance to get to know each other.
And so you don't know what I do for a living, but I teach firearms for a living.
That's what I do.
My whole business is guns.
What's your backing?
So the Second Amendment is very important to me.
I own a small business.
That's very important to me.
So what leftist ideals represent to me is over-regulation and over-taxation of my business.
And I don't want that because my business represents education for everyone.
Okay?
And if we've ever seen demographics who weren't normally about the Second Amendment come into that, we've seen it this year.
Okay?
Record gun sales more than ever in recorded history.
So what I started doing over the last couple of years is I started training with people who were not like me.
So I've been in touch with a lot of African-American, Latino, Latina people, Asian people who are in the gun industry, right?
And so Chris Chang is a really good example.
He won Top Shot.
He's a gay Asian that won the show Top Shot.
And so he and I have had some conversations.
Kevin Dixie out of Missouri, who's an African-American trainer, he and I have had some conversations.
And they really gave me a lot of perspective into what it's like to be gay in America, what it's like to be black in America.
I get it.
But and one of the greatest things, one of the greatest things that Kevin actually did for me was he took me into the hood.
And he showed me, baby.
I went to the hood in St. Louis.
In St. Louis, over the arches?
No, East St. Louis.
Where the cemetery is bigger than the neighborhood.
You're right.
Okay, so I've been there, you know, and he was like, this is what we deal with.
Politicians don't come into our areas unless it's in election year.
Nobody is fighting to give us better education, you know, as far as elected officials go.
They don't even, a lot of hoods across America don't even have a grocery store, a major grocery store.
So call them bodegas.
You have to, yeah.
So I think that one of the things that I would challenge people that are listening to this podcast today is understand that if you are not putting yourself in a position where you're the minority, right?
So like Mosh Ture, right?
He started a thing called Black Guns Matter in retaliation to Black Lives Matter because he thinks that the Second Amendment is for everyone.
He thinks that the African-American community needs to arm themselves.
They need to have a good mindset.
They need to learn responsible firearms training.
I don't know if you want to say more about myself.
You do.
I do.
I actually do.
But he was, but when he came into Dallas at the gun range that I built and said, so you're from Dallas.
Your range is in Dallas.
I'm from East Texas originally, but I've built four in Texas.
And so he said to me.
Jerry, can you finish up going to that?
Because I want to do a quick update because I'm getting a lot of stuff.
Absolutely.
And so the last thing I'll say is, you know, when he came into town, there were a lot of African-American people who came to his class.
And I went to dinner for the first time in my entire life where I was the only white person at the table.
And you want to talk about getting a perspective.
How did that work out?
Amazingly.
Okay.
Amazingly.
By the way, she's here because she came in.
She taught a class here on license to carry.
And I said, I love this girl.
She's got to get on.
And we brought her on.
That's how she came here to teach a class for everybody on how to have a license to carry for people at home office to prepare for the madness.
But I just got a text from my sister saying Arizona is questioning why they're calling results when 2 million votes haven't been tabulated yet.
Wow.
And it depends where they're from there, too.
Like Maricopa County.
My brother has texted me from Georgia that said CNN is discussing pulling back their Arizona call because 2 million votes.
And it was actually Fox that called it first for Biden and others followed.
Wow.
So Fox thought it was for Biden.
They called it and other networks followed because they don't want to miss, right?
There is a battle to call the states, you know that.
First, who call it first?
Oh, sure.
So when they say Joe Biden's about to make a statement, CNN, it's gray now.
It's not blue anymore.
It's gray.
Was it ever blue?
It's always been gray over here.
No, it was blue a minute ago.
It was blue 30 minutes ago.
It was.
Look, it's blue over there.
It was blue over there.
What about Texas?
Yep.
They're giving them Texas.
Yeah, 91% of the votes in on Texas.
So Joe Biden's about to make a statement shortly.
What do you think he's going to say?
He's going to say, don't rush to judgment, blah, blah, blah.
This is not a concession speech.
I was thinking if he's making a statement, it is a concession speech.
Everybody knows what it is, bro.
Anything else what he's going to be saying?
I think that it.
Let me ask you guys a question.
I just woke up.
Florida's done.
Yeah, Florida's done.
That I do know.
Florida's done.
Texas is not done yet.
91%.
Yeah, Texas is going to be any minute.
Some people are saying it's done.
Some 80% of the vote counted all the way up to the 10-year-old.
I don't think 80%.
He's done.
Trump kept going.
God's done in Pennsylvania.
I mean, Donald Trump's lead is huge.
That's correct.
Same thing in Michigan.
You know what I mean?
The freaking polls.
They are so we've been saying this for so long.
And only one person.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear Trafalgar.
Put it on.
We want to hear it.
Trafalgar is closest.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
What's going on?
He's going to lie.
Oh, look at his.
Call the Jeeps.
God.
Tomorrow morning, maybe even longer.
But look.
Plant the seed.
We feel good about where we are.
We really do.
I'm here to tell you tonight.
We believe we're on track to win this election.
Wow.
We believe we're on track.
Wow.
We knew because of the unprecedented early vote and the mail-in vote that it's going to take a while.
We're going to have to be patient until we the hard work of tallying votes is finished.
And it ain't over until every vote is counted.
Every ballot is counted.
And we're counting it once or counting them twice.
Especially if you're not looking for it.
But we're feeling good.
We're feeling good about where we are.
We believe one of the Nets has suggested we've already won Arizona, but we're confident about Arizona.
That's a turnaround.
We also just called it for Minnesota, and we're still in the game in Georgia.
Although, that's not what we expected.
And we're feeling really filling it up.
Last second rally.
And by the way, it's going to take time to count the votes.
We're going to win Pennsylvania.
That's awesome.
41% wants to just plan.
Pennsylvania, 41%.
I'm going to talk to the folks in Philly, Allegheny County.
I don't think so.
And they're really encouraged by the turnout and what they see.
Look, you know, we can know the results as early as tomorrow morning.
No.
But it may take a little longer, as I've said all along.
It's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare who's won this election.
That's the decision of the American people.
But I'm optimistic about this outcome.
And I want to thank every one of you who came out and voted this election.
And by the way, Chris Coons and the Democrats, congratulations here in Delaware.
Honey, you're in New Jersey.
Hey, John, you're the gov. Yeah, the whole team, man, you've done a great job.
I'm grateful to the poll workers, to our volunteers, our canvassers, everyone who participated in this democratic process.
I'm grateful to all my supporters here in Delaware and all across the nation.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
And folks, you heard me say it before.
Every time I walk out of my grandpa's house up in Scranton, he'd yell, Joey, keep the faith.
And my grandma, when she was live, you know, no, Joey, spread it.
Keep the faith, guys.
We're going to win this.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
He's not feeling good, man.
He tried to do it.
He is right.
The only thing he wanted to plant the seed is it's going to take time.
You may be quite quiet.
What did you think of his message to the people?
I felt it was him wanting to encourage everyone to feel good and to feel, first and foremost, I think, to feel safe.
No, no, as far as what could happen if he would have come on saying something different.
Like right now, if you had any thoughts of doing anything stupid or whatever, you're going to chill out.
And he also said that it won't happen until, like I said, maybe tomorrow, maybe the next day.
So everybody just chill out.
I can't wait to hear Trump.
That should be exciting.
Halftime speech of the Super Bowl.
Would you play for that guy?
Hey, I'm optimistic.
No.
I'm just going to be real.
I'm optimistic, though.
Hey, halftime on the Super Bowl.
We was up by three against Green Bay, who was supposed to beat us by 17.
Mike Shane came in and said, we're kicking their ass.
Period.
Was that the only flip?
Period.
Now let's go.
That's it.
That's it.
That was the one in TV.
We are going to kick their ass.
Let's go.
Go past.
That's all Shane has to say.
That's all he said.
That was the first Super Bowl?
That was the first Super Bowl.
We were supposed to lose by 17 against Green Bay because they won the year before.
Far.
But we already knew we had a good chance.
So what do you think of that?
Let's hear what Adam has to say.
To be honest, when they were making some sort of announcement, I was like, there must be something that he's going to say that is important, groundbreaking.
I thought he was going to give some sort of concession speech, to be honest with you.
But I think legitimately it's Sleepy Joe's bedtime.
He wants to go to bed.
So that's his message for the people.
You know what?
Those rallies meant something, man.
All these states where he's winning.
That's where he's going to be.
So what did you get out of the way?
You asked.
As a life function.
That's up by someone who's a life old Republican Democrat.
What did you say?
Wait, wait, we got to get him first.
Then the boss is that, you know, he got to get the finals.
I'll just say really quickly, I mean, he's under orders for what he's saying.
So what he has to say.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can't just gloss under orders.
Who's our Democratic Party?
The people on the far left who are running that campaign area.
That's what they're telling him to say.
Oh, without a doubt.
Okay.
Plant the seed that this isn't over.
We've got to count every vote.
This could take a week.
That's going to give them legally probably time to challenge in a few states.
Trump's going to come over or probably say something or tweet something pretty soon.
There it is.
We're up big, but they're trying to steal the election.
We will never let them do it.
Votes cannot be cast after the polls are closed.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you feel.
That was a soft speech.
I thought it was a little bit more.
Show the tweet for everybody a little speech.
You get that tweet for everybody else.
Tom, you continue.
Okay.
I honestly expected more out of him saying he was basically conceding without saying it.
And he lost?
Basically, I mean, look at the math.
Did you get that?
I did not get that.
Did you get that?
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The boss is shaking his head.
Did you get that?
No, what I got from it is three times he put it in there.
We can't find out the results tonight.
He had one outcome.
To get everybody to go to sleep tonight.
We're not going to find out.
Go to sleep, folks.
Don't worry about it.
We have to count.
The earliest we're going to find out is tomorrow, maybe later.
The earliest.
We're on the same page.
Dangerous speech, guys.
We're on the same page.
Dangerous speech because he didn't, in my opinion, he didn't say anything but go to sleep and beat you.
Tom.
There's a guy on our chat that says, Biden battery low going to sleep now.
Must recharge.
Here's what I think.
He just gave the Podesta speech.
Explain that.
Explain that.
In Hillary's election, her Podesta came out and made the speech.
Hey, chill out, hang tight.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for crying all over your red, white, and blue makeup on your face and everything.
Remember that?
Yeah.
He just gave the Podesta speech.
No, but Podesta.
Hillary was breaking chairs in a hotel room.
Podesta gave it saying thank you for showing up.
Exactly.
So meaning it was over.
We lost.
Hillary made the phone call.
And, you know, rumors had her she was drinking and she didn't want to come out because of parties, confetti, everything was waiting.
Tom, this is slightly different because he came out saying, we're strong, we're going to win it, we told you, and you know, I think his outcome is slightly different.
I just don't think they're that far apart.
I mean, they may not be that far apart, but I agree with you.
You mean Podesta in his speech?
I agree with you, Tom.
I mean, they're over in this range.
Maybe Biden was here and Podesta was here, but they're in that same neighborhood.
But he couldn't take back what I said.
I think that Podesta's speech was, we lost.
Like, thank you for coming out.
God bless a good night.
It was that.
You know what I mean?
As a competitor.
This wasn't that.
As a competitor, when you have to start saying stuff like that, you already know you lost.
Well, no, no, I feel you in a battle.
I don't feel you know.
I feel you don't know.
That's how I feel.
I feel there's a chance.
And there's a doubt that, there's a bigger doubt for me that if I have to say something like that, like in our competitions, if I got to go on our group and say, yo, you know, hey, our team's not really fired up and there's certain things that we're not doing on right now.
That's kind of like that talk, like, I'm preparing for a loss.
That type of pre-expression.
I think they're buying time to figure out what they can do legally too.
To just prolong this as long as they can.
I think you're thinking a lot further than what it really is.
Like, you keep bringing it in legally.
That dude is not going to try to steal the election in some kind of way.
He ain't even got that in him.
Like, I really don't think so.
Now, I received that.
I disagree with you.
On the other end, now, Trump, I would say Trump would have that in him before Biden does.
To do what?
Biden would take his ass open and go home.
No, no, no.
See, that's when you have it wrong.
Let me explain the difference.
Explain that, please.
That's when you have it wrong.
Okay.
So here's the difference.
Okay.
There are a couple different ways mobs get power.
Sometimes mob families, a guy named Paul Castellano was a guy who was on the face, but behind closed doors, he wasn't the power.
The guys behind closed doors coming up, a John Gotti was the mouthpiece.
John Gotti was the power.
Sammy was the power.
Paul Castellano was a face, and then all of a sudden he got a little bit too selfish.
And then, boom, they took him out in front of a Sparks restaurant, right?
Spark Statehouse.
Okay.
So, meaning what?
Biden is not the power.
It's the people behind him that are the power.
Don't worry about Biden being the power.
It's the camp that's the power because the camp cannot stand the fact that that dude is exposing everybody, that Trump guy.
Trump may be the most annoying opponent candidate, presidential candidate Democrats have ever seen.
There's never been a more annoyingly frustrating person in their lifetime than Trump.
Never.
Because no one would ever, even myself, like I told, I mean, me and Matt talked about it, like I said, I would, if I had my, let's just say this.
If I met Trump in 92, which that's when I first met him in 92, and then again in 2000 at his house, and if they told me he, I wouldn't believe it.
You wouldn't believe it.
Right, let me ask you.
Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
What is the hardest working day you had in the last 12 months?
Give me your hardest working day.
A day where you came, like literally, you got in the house and you knocked out on the floor, barely made it to the bed.
In the last 12 months?
I've had about four.
Okay, how bad?
Well, give us like the timeline.
Give us a timeline on what your hardest working day looked like.
Six.
I woke up at 6 a.m.
Came in 1.30-ish.
Okay.
And legitimately flew two different cities.
That type of thing.
And how old are you when that happened to you?
I'm 53.
Okay.
Now imagine, add 21 years to your life, okay?
Then imagine in one day, you go to five cities on a plane, jet lack, five cities, you stand for a minimum of 90 minutes because it's 60 minutes talking, 30 minutes is walking from the airport down to stage, walking around.
You talk for 60 minutes.
Five times you have to talk for 60 minutes.
In between, you're doing 30-minute interviews with the media, 15 minutes here, 30 minutes here.
And you do that at 74 years old.
What I'm trying to say to you is, imagine doing that 21 years from now at 74 years old.
Do you realize when you have an opponent like that one has that kind of a stamina and energy, it is the most annoying opponent you will ever face.
No, no doubt.
Very annoying to face an opponent like that.
That's what he's got.
So, you know what?
I relate that to Jerry Rice.
Like, seriously, on that same conversation, when I went into the league, I was studying Rob with wide receivers.
His work ethic is known as being the best wide receiver.
Who was the best?
Who I had to face.
And when I pulled up his workout for Hill, I was like.
Yeah, I always hear the story about J.J. Stokes and Tur Lowens.
When they go to San Francisco and they say, oh, we're going to beat this guy.
They run up.
I flew down to San Francisco.
Seriously.
I flew down to San Francisco.
I trained in Mexico.
All the time we see, I took where their workouts were, and I wanted to go do them.
Like, I was that dedicated to getting to that level.
And I flew to San Francisco, and my best friend Michael Johnson, the Olympic Springer, lived in San Francisco.
He's like, oh, here's the hill.
Look, annoying is not the word.
The difference is, the difference is, here's the big difference.
You ready what the difference is?
When you played against him, how old was he?
Exactly.
You know when he was 70.
When do you think is the last time Jerry Rice worked as hard as he did at that time?
He running a hill right now.
As hard as he did at that time.
Oh, yeah.
I feel you.
Okay.
He is at 74.
Trump probably had his hardest working day of his life this last Sunday.
Let me say that one more time.
Trump probably had his hardest working day of his life at 74 three days ago.
It's an annoying opponent.
That is an annoying opponent.
This guy got elected in 2016.
The next day he's at the office working, already breaking, doing deals.
And everybody's like, wait a minute, the typical person that, what happened?
The typical person that wins, they go to the office and they take a couple weeks off.
Not this guy.
Not this guy.
So what happened, Tom?
He wrote Georgia to Trump, and he's pointing out that the only way that...
Can you turn the audio on that one?
I just want to hear because what he's saying.
He's saying the only way that Biden goes to presidency is in Michigan, but he's already really far behind.
They don't have to win all three.
They can do it with just Wisconsin and Michigan.
We'll see.
He's saying that's what he says.
Trump has a short passion.
I could just throw Stephen Pass into Michigan and they're far ahead.
That's what he just said.
Pause it.
Pause it.
Someone explain this to me over here.
So the yellow states are states that haven't finished yet.
Right.
Correct?
Okay.
They haven't proclaimed.
Okay.
And so we have so many.
But Arizona is not.
But Georgia is a stop county.
He's got a huge lead in Georgia.
Same thing in North Carolina.
Okay.
So Biden has 200, so far, 237 electoral votes, and Trump has 213.
Is that what we're saying?
What this guy just pointed out is that.
But they're giving him Arizona on that map.
And he might not have Arizona.
What he just pointed out.
Okay.
They're assuming that Trump has North Carolina and Georgia based on these leads.
And they're saying that if he gets Michigan, Wisconsin, where he's far ahead, this thing is over.
Without Pennsylvania, without Pennsylvania and Nevada and Arizona flipping down.
That's a scary thought.
Two states away.
When did you get so heavily into the elections?
I know you haven't been here all your life, yeah.
You really want to know when I got heavily into elections?
It was 200 heavily?
2009 is the first time I had dinner with George Will in March of 09.
Prior to that, when I tell you I never followed politics, Ray, I never followed politics prior to March of 09.
Never.
So the Obama's first campaign?
I never followed politics.
I just knew what was going on, just like an average guy.
So what made you?
So I'll tell you a weird ass.
I mean, other than, of course, making money.
I'll tell you a weird story about me.
I'll tell you a weird story about me so you can understand this.
Back in 03, Ray, I turned off my radio on my car from 03 till today.
I've not once turned on the radio.
Let me say this one more time.
Kai knows, my guys who work with me know, I've never turned on the radio since 03.
Music radio.
I've never turned on the radio.
You'll never go into my car and the radio's on.
I've never turned on the radio.
You've seen drives and everything?
I've never turned on the radio.
What do you listen to?
I listen to podcasts, not podcasts, audibles.
I listen to books.
I listen to music.
I've never listened to radio.
And the music I listen to, if I sent you a rap right now on R ⁇ B, it'll be 03 and prior to 03.
I know nothing about Kendrick Lamar.
I know, like when this guy is telling me about hip-hop.
I've seen you on music list.
I'm all 03 and pre.
Except for the Adam's family amigos.
Well, because I watch Adam's Family cartoon my kids for the second time, and this time I don't fall asleep.
I had a scene.
I watched it this Sunday.
You got a good music list, though.
Yeah.
So watch what happens here.
Watch what happens.
Watch what happens when you say that.
Okay, watch when you say that.
So 2009, 2009, I go to a George Will event, March.
08, I have no clue what's going on in my life, you know, career-wise.
I'm making a lot of money, but I don't know what I'm going to do career-wise.
09, I meet George Will at a dinner at Miramar Hotel.
He starts talking.
We start talking to each other.
After we start talking to each other, he tells me about study America, capitalism, all this other stuff.
I do.
I start looking at capitalism.
Next thing you know, I come back and I give a speech at my office.
That Saturday after having dinner with George Will, Pat Boone, John Voigt, all these guys.
And I said, lawyers are ruining America.
I give a 19-minute talk.
I was on fire.
I had no clue what I was talking about.
Do you realize from that moment, all I did is I ordered every book I could to study everything I can about the economy.
And you know what my business taught me elsewhere?
Here's what my business taught me.
When you deal with salespeople, this is what I learned.
My best friend that I went to Army with, first grade with, high school with, you know, Bally Total Fitness with, we all had it.
Everything I did, he followed.
If I went to Bally's, he came with me.
If I went to Army, he went with me.
Everything.
He starts working with me.
Watch what happens here.
Best friend in the world.
Party with this guy.
He sees me hammered in Vegas while I'm punching him in the face.
He's carrying me in my shoulder, put him in the truck, because I'm gone.
I remember nothing of what happened, right?
He starts working with me in the office.
So I start thinking I'm going to do this guy a favor because he's going through tough times.
And he's dating this girl.
He wants to buy a nice drink for her.
I said, sure, go ahead.
He says, Pat, I can't make rent this month.
I said, buddy, I have to pay the rent.
He said, but I can't make it.
I said, you know what?
No worries as a friend.
I'll let you go for one month.
One month becomes eight months.
Eight months later, I go to this guy.
I said, why are you not going to pay rent?
He says, you're the broker of the office.
You make money off of everybody.
Why would I pay rent?
I said, buddy, we're sharing this thing together.
He says, I don't have to do that.
Do you know what the guy I did the most for ended up becoming my biggest enemy?
Yeah.
Do you know the guy I've done the least for is the most grateful?
Yeah.
This guy did $20 million in the last 12 months, give or take in his business.
Him and his wife make $2 million a year, right?
Most easiest people I've ever worked with.
Because they appreciate it.
My politics became clear based on how I saw people work around me on a day-to-day basis.
I didn't need a university.
I didn't go to work.
I watched the guy that asked for the least, bitch the least, complained the least, was the least entitled, who just said, Thank you so much for that help.
I really needed that.
I appreciate you for that feedback.
I really needed that.
And it's like, man, you know what?
You have changed my life.
I never met anybody like you.
It's so great that I'm working with you.
This is a very weird perspective.
Then you have a completely different conversation saying, you never did this for me.
You never did that for me.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
And in my mind, I put way more hours into you than them.
I don't need politics to understand how this thing works.
You just made me feel like you're a professional athlete.
Yep, because that's what we experienced.
He's an entropathletee.
That's what we experienced.
That's why when he and I spoke about this, that's what we experienced.
I told him, I said, trust me, when you're in that realm, you understand it.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing the disgusting, disgusting virus of entitlement.
It's amazing how ugly you could meet a girl that's dropped at gorgeous, say 36, 24, 36, whatever you want to do, lips, eyebrows, eye, perfect, everything's flawless.
If she's entitled, she's the ugliest human being in my eyes in the world.
I don't even see it.
So you're not going to be able to do it.
If she's entitled, if she's a victim, if she's entitled, if she's a victim, it is one of the ugliest human qualities in the world.
I can't even get it filtered.
In my mind, I just go straight there.
I can't even have a conversation with you.
Can't do it.
What did I show you?
When he and I spoke, same thing, PBD, I swear to God, he and I spoke about it.
I told him I was getting my license, whatever, whatever.
And the first thing I told him, he was like, so you get your license, how are you going to, you know, how will we work, whatever.
Entitlement does not carry over.
Hey, by the way, I have my license.
Can I do anything for you guys?
Of course not.
I do.
I have a couch.
Seriously?
I have a license.
I'm sure you have a license.
You got to talk to this guy.
So by the way, if you're watching this right now and you really, really took a lot away from what Prager said, click on that subscribe button.
If you took a lot away from what Prager said, I took notes over here.
I know he took a lot of notes.
If that Prager moment for you got you to click it apart, just click on that subscribe button because I'm a, every, you know, certain people you talk to, you listen, you're like, oh, you know what?
I never thought about it that way before.
It makes you shift thinking.
Prager does that every day.
He's been doing that every day for the last four years.
I wish he could expose a few people on the far left, you know, just one-on-one and let the country see really what they stand for.
Because it's all common sense with him, too.
I mean, you can't argue it.
Yeah, it's very tough.
So now you can answer our question.
Minnesota just turned blue.
Yeah.
Yeah, they announced that already.
They announced that already.
I'm Minnesota.
So I'm boron.
What question was it that you wanted to ask?
See, I did it.
So why are they borrowing?
Because of what?
Because they're in a great city like Minneapolis knows they think differently than you?
No, because they made a mistake.
They voted for the wrong person.
So I have, I think this might be interesting if we kind of go around the table really quickly.
And what is one issue, thought process, or platform that you could get behind on the opposite end of what you believe?
So like if you're a Democrat, what's one Republican thing that you could maybe get behind?
I just found out I'm a liberal.
Well, you know, same trick.
He described it perfectly.
No, he described me perfectly.
Because you don't want to be for what's right.
Yeah, I'm not far left or far right.
I'm for what is right.
So that's why my vote, and that's why I've always had it, it's so funny.
Like when people say, oh, you're going on the vote, I've always had a hard time voting because I maybe it's a good thing, but I've always had to research because I was always on the fence.
Now I know why I'm on the fence.
I'm a liberal.
Like, I'm in between.
I'm in between the two.
So, I always had to find out what exactly.
I wish we would have had more time with him, though, because I would have liked to hear what he said about the difference between liberals and libertarians.
Yes, yes.
I agree.
I can't wait to hear the rationalization tomorrow on the media and then just some of the other democracies.
I can't wait to hear.
So, what will you do?
What will you say?
You have kids, right?
Yes.
I see that you're married or whatnot.
You have kids.
What will you do?
What will you say to your kids if Biden wins?
What will you say?
Well, I mean, I don't know.
I haven't planned that conversation, but...
Okay, but now you have.
Yeah, we would have to discuss some things, you know.
But that's not answering my question.
I'm not prepared to answer it.
Because you can't.
I'm just saying this.
The reason why I said that is because I'm just saying this.
You can't say what you just said to me about Minnesota.
You can't just say they picked the wrong guy.
So what will you say?
No, I'm from Minnesota.
I saw what happened in Minneapolis.
It bothers me greatly to see what happened in that city and then for this outcome tonight.
That's why I say that.
I grew up there.
Okay, but what happened in that city happened under the current regime.
So what are you saying?
It happened under a Democratic governor regime.
I mean, what happened in Minneapolis has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
Nothing.
And I don't even know why we have to discuss this, right?
No, no, we don't have to discuss this.
Let me ask you a question.
So out of your Wendy Burst, David Alessi, and Grant Woods, who would you want to call?
Who would give us the best?
I think Wendy would be great.
Wendy would be from what standpoint?
Just because, you know, she's really, I mean, we don't have to call any of them.
Okay?
But she's number two.
She's a reporter.
Okay, so she can see both sides.
She's on the streets.
You want to text or prepare a seat?
She's available right now and then we'll drop a call to.
Go ahead, Tom.
Yeah.
He's called Arizona.
I'm pointing out that it's our favorite guy speaking.
Oh, okay.
Oh, Van.
I thought something.
Van's looking, Van.
Georgia looking strong.
What's wrong with Van?
Talk to me.
Don't be scared now, Kay.
Georgia is now a Georgia.
Georgia is Trump 52.1.
Ooh, okay.
85.1.
85%, yeah.
60,000.
I actually really respect Van.
What do you have like?
I think Van is not on the left.
He's not a liberal.
I think he's a leftist.
$250,000 elite in Georgia.
That's right.
You think he's far?
I think he's a leftist.
And I think he's gone the other side, and I think he kind of gets used.
And I think he shows up and he talks leftists, but I don't think that's in his heart.
I agree with you.
I don't think it is either.
He makes good money being a leftist on TV, but I don't think that's a good thing.
I'm a little role that's looking at him about what I said.
And if he pulled back a little bit, I don't think he realizes how powerful his voice could be if he pulled back a little bit.
So PPD, when you first got...
I didn't dodge a question.
No, you didn't.
You answered it, and I like it.
When you first got into a position, I guess into the position, what did you think about politics?
Did you feel you had to play a role once you got to a certain amount of money, you know, that you were at the company?
What do you mean role?
Role as in.
Did you feel you had to fit in somewhere?
Like, I have to play.
At all.
No.
Not at all.
Zero.
No, I just want to be.
I'm a pro, pro-capitalist at the highest level.
To me, it's purely about capitalism, being left alone, freedom.
It's what it's about.
All the other social stuff, I'll sit there and I'll say I'm okay with it.
But for a Biden to increase it, we had the whole, the Chase came out with comparing the taxes.
I don't know if you've seen this or not.
Chase came out and Chase said an article.
Can you just pull up the Chase article?
They went to all their users.
Chase is not a liberal or Republican.
It's just a bank.
And they came out and they shared this with everybody that holds an account with JP Morgan Chase.
Can you make that bigger?
See how much bigger you can make that.
And they said, here's what's going to happen in taxes under Trump and under Biden.
Go a little bit bigger as well if you can do that, Kai.
Can you go like three more levels, or that's it for you?
Okay, there we go.
There we go.
And this is Chase.
Okay, go a little lower so we can see Trump Biden at the top, Kai.
I don't know what you're doing, buddy.
Okay, go ahead.
Go down one.
Make it bigger, Kai.
I go one bigger and that's what we got.
Okay, go up.
What I'm saying is, do that.
You were fine a minute ago until you touched the computer.
There you go.
Keep going.
Keep going.
You'll get the red blue.
Kai, using the computer, man.
We have this issue every podcast with Kai's.
Go back right there.
You turn right there.
Make it bigger, Kai.
Go one bigger.
One bigger.
One bigger if you can.
Just right there.
Perfect.
It's just the same.
No worries.
No worries.
I can see it though.
So I cannot see it.
You can't see it by the way.
No, I cannot see it.
But can the viewer see it or no?
Yes.
The viewer should be able to see it here.
If the viewer can see it, I can read you what's on there because I have.
Let me see if I opened it up or no.
Okay, here we go.
Here's what it says.
On the Donald Trump side, ordinary income, top ordinary income stays at 37%.
On Biden, it goes all the way up to 39.6%.
Every dime above 400.
Yep.
Under Trump for Social Security, no payroll tax imposed on earned income in excess of $137.
So current limit, you reach $137, you're done with Social Security.
Under Biden, apply a Social Security payroll tax of 12.4 to earnings above $400,000.
Did you know that?
12.4% above $400,000.
Okay, so let me continue.
Wait a minute, but let me go to the last one here.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
So I'm just giving you parts of it here.
All right, so next, you want to go income deductions?
We'll skip that.
Itemized deductions.
We'll skip that.
Capital gains.
Trump, 20%.
Biden, 39.6%.
Did you hear what I just said?
I mean, that's not about your friends with your 20 calls.
You should have called this friend, Ray.
Eliminate.
I played ping pong for the next day.
The next time the next album is going to be a lot of people.
You know, the next album call you, because you got what's that?
So then you got gift.
They're just completely abolishing that.
Right.
Corporate taxes, 21%.
Biden, 28%.
28%.
You know what happens to that additional 7%?
Here's what this means.
Ray.
If I'm netting 10 million and you take, if I'm netting 10 million, you're taking 7%.
Instead of paying $2.1 million in taxes, now I'm paying $2.8 million in taxes.
So you're taking $700,000 away from me.
What's the average salary right now in America?
$62,000.
$62,000.
$67,000.
That's $77.
It's less than that.
That's my salary is like closer to $40,000.
Yeah, it's $40,000.
But let's go to $53,000.
Let's say $50,000.
Basically, you're saying that's a couple dozen employees that you could hire.
That's an additional 13 employees that I can hire.
You know what I have to do?
And if I can't do that, I got to increase my costs.
I got to fire a few people.
Or your price.
I got to not invest back into my company for technology, and I got to wait for this thing to go away.
And our corporate taxes go back to being one of the highest in the world again, if not the highest in the world.
So that's people don't understand.
What you just mentioned is very important for America in general because converts that to jobs.
Exactly.
Because that's what, that was my point.
My point is We don't because the majority of America are not entrepreneurs.
They don't relate it to that or they're not owners.
They don't relate it to that.
Those are jobs that's being taken away.
They just think it's going to your pocket.
Where what you just exactly, you spoke on the never once did you say about your money.
You spoke 13 people I got fired.
13 people.
That's what America should do.
Let me put it to you this way.
Every time taxes go lower, I pass a bonus to my field.
If Trump gets elected, they right now, if all my employees are watching, everybody's about to get a bonus.
Just because of taxes.
And not because it's like, oh, it's because Trump is great.
It's because of the taxes.
I have the ability to bonus a little bit more.
Great.
You know what we did last time when Trump got elected?
I brought everybody to the office.
I said, for every month you've been here, you get $100.
Tom was here when we did it.
We brought everybody into this office and we said, hey, for every $100, for every month you've been here, you get $100.
And we gave them $100.
No way.
Yes.
Why?
Because Trump got elected and taxes have changed.
Everyone's like, really?
I said, yeah.
I said, would you like to post that online?
No, I'm not going to say because I, but people got checks.
People got checks.
So the point I'm trying to make to you is this is when somebody walks away and they say, I never thought about it that way.
And you know, that's how taxes works.
And you taxes.
I continue to say, I know you, I continue to say it's a mindset, but it is.
It's a mindset that most people don't get to study or don't get to know.
College don't teach you this.
High school don't teach you this.
And I tell people, I got two degrees.
It doesn't teach you this.
But when I became an entrepreneur, it didn't do shit for me.
Kai, can you do me a favor?
Prepared the video.
Prepared a video of two videos.
Prepared a Lady Gaga cringing video and prepared the Obama video where he's bringing up Joe Biden.
I don't know if you've seen this video.
It's one of the greatest edifications of all time.
And Biden comes out and gives an incredible, you should see what kind of an energy Biden comes out with.
I mean, it's like inspirational, Jared.
Jerry, you got to watch this.
It's like kind of stuff that can inspire you.
I think right now that you, you, you, yeah.
So this is Lady Gaga.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Oh, yeah.
Jeez.
Well, this is the tenth.
Someplace on high school.
It's a great state.
Lower one of them, increase the other one.
There you go.
Go.
So just.
Listen, we can't celebrate just yet because I need everybody to vote.
Are you going to vote?
Come on, scream.
Why don't you scream for America?
50 people are off.
Jeez, that's it.
Come on, put your hands in the air.
Come on, everybody right now, ready.
50,000 people show up at our concerts.
Oh, my God.
When's the last time a crime like that showed up for Lady Gaga?
Watch.
You're not even in it.
She's not even in it.
She's mad.
She's pissed right now.
All right.
We take you to the cul-de-sacra.
Joe and Jenny Richmond have been.
Your daughter has her 16th birthday.
Since we're clear on who we love.
I know.
It's cold out.
Y'all came out in the cold.
But you know what?
Tonight, I'm taking my gloves off.
Uh-oh.
Because you can't feel the key.
So do me a favor.
Go now to the next one.
By the way, honestly, things like this hurt.
Sure, they do.
This is not you.
Did you see the one where she did the white neck thing?
I'm not going to.
She's going to run down Ventura Volvo.
She's going to put it out of my restaurant tonight.
That's the point.
Oh, wait, that's been done already.
Ray, if you look at this.
Y'all need to come to my restaurant.
Watch this.
We haven't gotten invitations.
Where is he at?
Oh, my God.
Watch, watch this.
Ten people there.
Joe Biden!
Joe Biden!
That's how he brought him up.
Joe Biden!
That's terrible.
You didn't see that?
This was last week.
He didn't come out.
You guys missed this?
What channel do you want?
Did it?
Play it one more time.
Play it one more time.
No, you got to see this one more time to enjoy it.
I'm not going to be able to stadium for him to campaign.
Doing an introduction.
Joe Biden!
Joe Biden!
Joe, come on, Joe.
I want to read him out, man.
Joe Biden!
It's not coming out, Obama.
Doesn't it come out?
I think this is pathetic.
Oh, my gosh.
I quit.
Cringing, right?
Is that painful?
I mean, that should tell you something.
I mean, how much Obama got involved in his election or in his campaign?
Didn't get involved at all.
You know, the difference between the two.
And that's why I have a problem.
Look at the face of the music.
By the way, look at Obama's face.
Honestly, do you think he's excited about promoting?
Did you see the story where one of the reasons he didn't want to get in?
There you go.
What the fiddlers is doing.
The last time I did that again.
Why Brock distanced himself so much from even encouraging Biden to run?
He thought Hunter would be the big liability for him.
And there he was.
Pat, I think something that maybe we can talk about is, you know, we've had many conversations about emotional voting, emotional thinking, letting your emotions get the best of you, not, you know, necessarily digesting all the facts as the conversations we have.
Like, for instance, I've been very vocal the fact that policy-wise, I identify way more as being a libertarian or even Republican policy-wise, but I just can't get over Trump.
Nails on a chalkboard, his voice.
I admit it.
Just like, and you said you've had to, there's things about Trump where you don't necessarily like, and you've spoken not necessarily glowing about him, but you're able to look past that.
Yeah.
I.e., you have an emotional disconnect with LeBron.
This is the first time that you rooted against.
Well, I didn't hear that.
Well, we're bringing it up now.
You've rooted for the Lakers for 20 years, and this is the first time that you've rooted against the Lakers.
Why don't we just have a conversation about, you know, seeing this play out tonight, like seeing some of the tax stuff, not that I didn't know any of this, seeing some of the, you know, with Dennis Prager stuff, a little more of the logical, transactional, I don't, you know, as a Jewish person, he's like, yeah, whatever.
I don't care the Nazis did it.
Like, to me, that affects me, right?
Like, I've had grandparents and family die in the Holocaust, so, like...
No, but that's not what he said.
Excuse me, sir.
No, no.
No, it isn't.
He said that.
He says, I don't let that things affect me.
Why don't you just talk about how you're able to think logically and not so much emotionally?
Can I ask a question?
What's the most people that have ever reported to you at one single time?
Reported?
Yeah.
Worked under, you mean?
Worked under, yeah.
What's the most people that have you've had a direct report to you?
Okay, when I was a campaign seriously.
Because you make very good money right now, but you're solo.
You're a tennis player.
Yeah, no, I'm only.
You're a golfer.
Exactly.
What's the most people ever worked for you?
No, I was never been a boss of one.
No, I mean, at a hotel, I ran a hotel.
I had a couple dozen people working for me.
Two dozen people that reported directly to you?
Yeah.
When you worked at a hotel.
Yeah.
Okay.
So one of the best things that builds tolerance is when people work for you.
Okay?
So when you end up working, people work for you and you work with people.
Okay.
You have no choice but to build tolerance.
A lot of dollar choice.
Here's the other one.
When you're married, he's a college choice, buddy.
So here's the other.
Let me give you another one for you.
When you got kids, my dad sits over there.
My dad's laughing.
I said, what are you laughing at?
He says, he says, you have changed.
I said, what do you mean I've changed?
He says, I'm watching you.
There are three kids screaming your name non-stop.
And you haven't lost your cool ones.
What the hell happened to the Patrick I want?
I knew.
And I'm sitting, I'm like, you know what?
But I tell you, if I go back to Tico, there are a couple moments I'm not proud of myself as a parent.
Because I was a jerk to Tico a couple times.
And I remember till today.
But what Tico did to me was he was my teacher.
My oldest son taught me about tolerance.
He forced me to learn about the concept of tolerance.
Then Dylan came, I was more tolerant.
Then Senna came, I'm more tolerant.
So when you get people that work for you and you work with them, you're like, let me do that, boom, you're an idiot.
Doesn't work out.
Now I got to go recruit another idiot.
Maybe you're the idiot.
You don't have to work.
Everybody's an idiot.
And you're the leader of idiots, which makes you the biggest idiot.
You sit there and you're like, okay, you understand what I'm saying to you?
So you kind of, you're going on, you're like, okay, so then you hire somebody.
And the moment you hired them, you're like, well, I don't like this person, I don't like that about them.
I don't like this about them.
I don't like that about them.
Then you fire them.
And you're like, but I missed out about them.
I missed that about them.
I needed this about them.
So then you're like, you know what, man, you just got to be a little bit more cautious.
So I fired my first 26 assistants.
Jeez.
Did you really?
No joke.
And you know how quickly, like this, you're fired.
One girl made one flight, wrong flight.
I asked her to book a flight in July.
She booked everybody's flight in June.
We all paid $500.
Six of us booked our flight.
We lost $500 because she didn't get insurance.
So everybody's like, Pat, when am I going to, I said, I don't know you $500.
He said, but your assistant booked my flight.
I said, dude, you're fired.
And she was gone.
But that went up.
She may have deserved it.
She 100% deserves it.
Do you know the 27th assistant that I have?
It's Alexis Moody.
She runs the entire department.
She owns a piece of the company here.
And she's ridiculously amazing at what she does.
I build tolerance.
When Tom and I were working together, there was a couple instances where we had some interesting moments.
You know, when yesterday Tom and I went and ate, we talked about it.
I told Tom, I said, Tom, you know, out of everything we had working together, I had one issue with you.
What did I tell you, Tom?
What did I tell you?
What's the only issue I had with you?
I was Canadian.
Yeah, that's what it is.
You know what's the one issue with Tom?
You know what's the one issue with Tom I had?
What was it?
By the way, just so everybody knows, Tom and I spent more time together for four years than my own wife, than your wife.
Tom is a guy.
I learned more.
This is not a confession.
And this is just because we were building a business.
Take my number back.
Let me tell you a story about Tom.
Let me tell you a story about Tom.
Here's a story about Tom.
Do you know right now, Tom was supposed to be at 5 at 6.30.
He was three minutes late.
You know what I said?
I said, he's not late.
He's sitting in the car praying with his girls.
So I go outside.
You know what he's doing?
He's hanging up the phone.
This guy's not late.
I guarantee he was here way earlier.
He's been sitting out there for probably 10 minutes.
I know how Tom is, but he's talking to his daughters.
Every time we travel together, you know how Tom was?
7.30, we're in the room.
Okay, Bailey, how was your day?
How was your day, Brooke?
So what did you learn today?
Okay, can we do prayer together?
You want to go first?
And they would pray together.
He stayed at my house for six months because he used to travel from Plano to LA.
He traveled from Plano to LA and he lived in my house five days a week and he would fly back.
5.30 every morning, I'd go downstairs to look at the lights around.
You know what Tom is doing at 5.30 in the morning?
Every morning?
Reading the Bible.
Every morning at 5:30, then he would call his daughters in the morning and he would pray with them before the kids went to school.
Okay, we traveled together.
I learned how to travel with Tom.
Tom, the way he would pack his stuff.
Tom's a ridiculous packer.
Like, it's flawless.
And if we're late, Tom's like, okay, I just want you to know we're changed from C1 to B22.
It's been taken care of.
We've been upgraded to the first class.
You're sitting C3.
I'm C2.
That's Tom.
That's nice.
You know what I said to Tom yesterday?
We had one issue with Tom.
What was the issue?
Tom gets excited.
Tom gets excited.
If you have an announcement, people know about it.
That was his only challenge.
And we talked kiss and death in the mouth.
I never heard anything.
No, I would talk to people.
I'd be very excited about it.
And I would think they're going to keep me secret.
Trust me.
But they would tell their entire organization, which is the problem because Matt's got 1,500 agents.
40th times.
Yeah, so I'm like, Tom, you're killing me.
I gave Tom books.
I gave Tom.
I was like, Tom, please, Tom.
And then finally, anyways.
Tie this into the emotional language.
The point I'm trying to make to you is for three years when Tom and I worked together.
One time we had a technology thing that didn't go right.
$150,000 we lost.
We had a meeting in our office.
Tom's like, Pat, why are you so pissed?
Is this it for me?
I said, no, bro.
What do you mean?
Are we going to make a lot of mistakes?
We're going to lose a lot of money together.
What are you talking about?
I'm just having perspective here.
My perspective is I love working with you.
You ain't got to worry about it.
But that tolerance came after 16 years.
For you to sit there and you look at Trump, dude, you haven't had enough people work for you.
You haven't had enough people in your life for too long.
Anybody that's in your life for too long, they're eventually going to disappoint you.
They're going to.
Kids are going to disappoint you.
Your friends are going to disappoint you.
Your wife's going to disappoint you in one way.
Your brother's going to disappoint you.
Your mom's going to disappoint you.
Your dad's going to disappoint you.
This is why as a family, we pray for four things.
Courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding.
The hardest one is tolerance.
Very annoying because people are so annoying.
People are so annoying.
Very annoying.
So when you say Trump, I don't wake up in the morning and tell my kids, I hope you grow up to be like Trump.
I don't wake up in the morning and say, man, I can't wait to go have my wife and Trump and them have dinner together.
I don't know how he is.
When I went to Mar-a-Lago with him and we spent that day together with him in Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, I couldn't believe every phone was taken away.
Everything was gone.
And you watched me like, dude, this guy's a chill guy.
I'm cool with this guy.
The way he was.
You liked the guy when you hung out with him, right?
But for you, you have to be able to reason.
I got a lot of people here that work for me.
I remember one time Ian and I were sitting down.
Ian was here for three months.
He came in.
You know what he said?
He said, Pat, I don't know if this is going to work out.
I said, tell me why.
He said, because the way you drive, I think Tom would remember this.
You drive people.
I said, what do you mean?
He says, you drive people high.
I said, you ever ran a sales organization?
He said, no.
I said, do I come to you telling you how to be a CFO?
He said, no.
I said, is there anything that you've had bad experience with me outside of the way I drive?
He says, no.
I said, is it fair to say you do you, I do me.
I'm not a micromanager.
You know how long Ian's been here now?
How many years has Ian been here now?
None of you guys would know.
17 years ago.
Tom, how long has Ian been here now?
You hired him.
It's going to be.
Almost three.
November of 20.
Matter of fact, it's this month.
It's like Tahoe.
This is three years.
That's what I'm saying.
Two, almost three.
That's where we're going.
This year, Ian's three.
And you know what Ian does?
He's phenomenal at what he does.
Phenomenal.
He had to learn what it is to work with a personality like me.
I had to learn what it is to work with a guy that wants to be low-key.
The guy's got 41 followers on Instagram.
He's never posted a picture.
He wants zero attention, anything.
And he may be laid up right now watching this, by the way.
Okay?
But he's that guy.
So I look at policies.
I look at how people work.
I look at how Lexus works.
I look at how Amor works.
Amor's a very weird guy.
Remember one time?
I know when you're a roommate's with Amur, I gotta tell this story.
Oh no.
When you're roommates with Amur, Amur is from France.
We weep.
So in France, guess what they don't believe in?
They believe in speedos.
Okay, and you know, they don't like a lot of clothes on.
So I've roomed up with Amor because I've known Amor since 02.
I know how Amor is when he travel with them.
So I said, you know what?
I tell Tom, I said, Tom, as a new president of the company, I think it's a very good idea, and I'm more room up.
Can't room up.
Can't room up.
I know what's about to happen.
He comes to me, he says, I said, so Tom, how was it?
I'm glad you guys had a chance to talk.
He jumped up last night.
How's that morning prayer?
How's that morning prayer going?
I got to tell you, is it normal that he walks around naked?
I said, yeah, all the time.
Aside from that, it was good.
Down the hall getting extra towels from the men.
Wow.
It's very complicated.
That's the whole thing, what I told you about Trump.
Same thing.
Tolerance.
It's like, that's why I would never have anything super, super negative.
Because I knew him before and also last year.
We are the same tax guy, by the way.
The guy that does his taxes does my taxes.
Are you still under audit for the last eight years?
No, I'm not.
I'm good.
But Julio Gonzalez is, he's a big Denver Bronco fan, one of my partners or whatever.
I came last year to Trump's dinner for New Year's or whatever.
Me and a couple of my friends, my nephew, he gave us his chopper to go to Miami.
I mean, he's a cool, he's never been not cool.
Trump.
Yeah, it's just like, as a president, there's just certain things.
You just have to change.
There's certain things you have to do to be presidential.
And I just don't think a lot of people, like you say, from tolerance and from that, you don't care because zero.
Yeah, because I don't care.
Let me tell you why I don't care.
Let me tell you America don't.
What language are we speaking right now?
English.
English.
Do you know if it's not for a guy named Winston Churchill, we'll be speaking German right now?
True.
And do you know, you ever read books on Winston Churchill?
He's read every book on Winston Churchill.
That guy right there.
Do you know how Winston Churchill was?
One of the most obnoxious human beings ever.
But if it's not for him, after the guy went up against everybody in Europe and everybody finally surrendered, says, I'm sorry, we can't beat you.
He said, not going to happen, not over my dead body.
Never, And today, you and I get to speak English because of a church hill.
So you don't have to like Churchill's.
You don't have to like Trump's.
They get the job.
Make it done.
Forget about their personalities.
They already know what it is.
That's the problem with, I mean, it's always been that.
Is that we feel too comfortable and too close, so to speak, to principles and to policy.
It's back to that Saturday Night Lives, the gangster video we just watched earlier.
A lot of people are just afraid to be that type of person.
They feel they got to include and.
If you're the president, because that's what you did, too.
You know, being in the military and having guys yell in your face and taking orders, barking orders, and playing sports, all those type of stuff.
We didn't care.
Listen, I mean, I'm respecting the man, but I respect the rank.
There's orders.
They got to get done.
That's why it's called player coaches and it's called coaches.
Most players' coaches do not win because as PBD just said, you allow people to be players or to feel too close.
And in the military, how much do they care about your feelings?
Zero.
Zero to zero.
Exactly.
We've got to get a job.
I think that one of the hugest problems that we have in America right now is that people put too much stock in their opinions.
Everybody's in their feelings, not in their opinion.
People put too much stock in their opinions.
In your opinion, your opinion is literally the lowest form of knowledge that you have.
It's really your feelings.
You there.
It's your feelings.
But you're all going to base your opinions on your feelings.
Everybody is in their feelings.
And your opinions and your feelings, too, require no accountability.
Yeah.
They require no facts to back up why you feel the way you feel.
You just feel.
And they change constantly.
See, I can't understand how a dislike of Trump is worth flushing the economy away.
I mean, how you could hate Trump so much that it's worth it to do that.
Because they've got to be right.
And what's wrong with not being a normal politician?
Yeah.
You know, in some regards, it's refreshing.
But no, here's the thing, though, is that that is why he got into office the first time.
Because he was not a normal politician, and everybody was ready for something different.
But that's what we voted for.
But once again, I always tell people, be careful what you wish for.
Make sure you can handle it.
Make sure your feelings can handle it.
Because if you vote someone in or if you ask for something and it comes to you and your feelings are not ready, then your mind will take over.
The mind is going to always, I always say your mindset is going to always take over to where you are, to where you end up.
I don't give a damn how you how you look, how you cut it up, how you spend.
If your mindset does not change, your feelings are going to overtake you.
You know, Dennis said earlier that it's easier to defer responsibility than to ownership.
Because that's what the feelings do.
Your feelings would defer responsibility.
So let me ask you this.
Your mindset takes her.
Kai just sent me a number here.
Kai said Biden has two states that will go his way.
It's going to be 15 electorals.
Trump has 83 possible with six states that's going to go his way.
It's what it's looking like.
If Pennsylvania doesn't go his way, that's 20.
Out of the 83, 63 is left.
63 plus 213 is what?
276, it's over.
Is that what you're saying?
So you're saying even without Pennsylvania, we can find out tonight with Trump eating Biden.
Correct.
What about Georgia?
Georgia stopped counting.
Georgia is 87%.
Counted.
87% counted.
And what kind of a lead does he have?
He has 300,000 votes.
No, actually, it's closer now.
90% counted, and he has a lead of 125, 28,000 votes.
But it's 90% counted.
Correct.
120,000 votes.
Arizona is Biden.
Arizona is Biden.
There it is.
128,000.
Only 77% of the votes in Arizona.
True of Maine.
Congressional District 2 in the inland Maine in the hills.
Trump actually won.
So, PBD, I want to ask you this so that the listeners really get to hear this from a clear concept.
If Biden wins, what would you have to do as an owner?
Or what would you change as an owner?
You mentioned it earlier.
What does that mean?
If Biden wins, what will we have to do as an owner?
Yes.
When Biden wins, the first meeting I'm having is with my accountant.
Right.
Just telling you.
I mean, that's serious with you.
No, no, no.
But my accountant's going to tell me, normally, the company would net this much.
Exactly.
The company's going to net this much.
Here's what you want to take this year.
Leave the rest for next year because you're going to have to pay twice as much or whatever.
And whatever you're doing next year, be prepared.
And then we have to make our decision on what kind of bonuses we're going to pass down.
If that's kind of because of the taxes.
And with that, some people may be what?
There's going to be some people that don't.
The benefit we have.
Here's the benefit that we have.
And I'll tell you the benefit that we have.
And Tom knows this.
The benefit that we have is we've been so flippant, frugal.
Our last board meeting, you know what the board complained about?
What did the board complain about?
Lunch.
We got stacked.
We're stacked.
Why do we have so much cash we're sitting on?
Oh, wow.
We're sitting on cash cash.
There you go.
Because I believe in cash.
There you go.
We're sitting on so much cash for you.
Something like Trump.
So you believe in cash.
I don't believe in so much beautiful cash right now.
Oh, it's a lot.
What I like is you say you believe in cash, and a lot of people right now are saying don't believe in cash.
I believe in cash.
Well, I mean, I've made videos saying cash is king, and I went against people that said cash is not king.
I believe in cash because I knew if the possibility of Biden getting elected, those who have cash, they're going to be able to survive the four years.
Yeah.
You want to know why they're hyperventilating?
Why?
Because Pennsylvania is still counting incremental, unlike Arizona and Georgia, waiting for the morning.
Kai?
I'm pulling up.
What is Pennsylvania?
It's almost 700,000 votes now, is it not?
That is scary, guys.
Yeah, you never know so much.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
66% estimated votes reported.
66%.
He's got 700,000 vote leads.
Well, here's what you need to do with that, Tom.
Take those two numbers and add them up.
Yep, divide by 66.
Divide by 66, exactly.
Wow.
What do we get?
If it's not the 700,000.
So 2 million and 2.7, right?
2 million and 2.7 is 4.7 million divided by 0.66.
What's the number?
Six on the nose.
Six what?
Million on the nose.
Six million is left.
Yep.
Or is it no, no, six million is total.
So that means 1.4 million is left.
So that means out of the 1.4 million that's left, the other 34%, 50% needs to vote one way.
Do you know what just happened right there?
Do you know what just happened right there?
He won Pennsylvania.
Let me tell you what just happened right there.
No, no.
He won Pennsylvania.
Watch this.
So there's 2.6 million that's on Trump's side.
Go back to the numbers, guys, so we can look at it.
Here's basic math.
You take 2.7 million plus 2 million, which gives you 4.7 million, right?
Then you take the 66% that's in there, which means 34 is left.
The 34 puts it at around 6 million, which is around another 1.4, 1.3 million votes.
Okay, so let me do the math for you.
So what percentage is that?
67.
It's still 700,000, though.
So now puts it at 4.7 million.
Let me do the math here for you guys.
4.7 million.
4.7 million.
6 is 1.3.
If you add 7, it's 2.3.
Florida voters back in 2010.
Okay, it's 2.3.
So here's what happens.
Yeah, so 2.3 million is left.
In order for Biden to win Pennsylvania, that 2.3 million votes has to go the following: 2.3 million votes.
It has to be 705,000 for him above the split.
Above the split.
That's exactly it.
So if you split it in half, it's 1.15, then you've got to add 350 up.
So he has to do 1.5 million.
He has to do 1.5 million of the 2.3 remaining votes.
He's not going to do it.
Nope.
He's not going to do it.
Well, Trump says only 550.
So do you know what just happened right there?
So if it's over.
It's to be over.
He's been reelected.
Oh, my God.
You heard me over.
You heard me here in the Beth David podcast.
You know what math I'm doing.
You know what I mean?
It's over.
If that's the case, he needs more than Pennsylvania.
Arizona is a bad thing.
That's how I say he needs more than Pennsylvania.
No, now go to Michigan.
Do the same math as well.
Let's go to Michigan and do the same exact math to the other ones.
Go to Michigan.
1-6.
1-8.
So he's got a 300,000 lead there.
What percentage is in?
Is that 60?
He can't lose this one.
No, he can lose Michigans.
He can lose Michigan.
Yeah, what's this one?
Pennsylvania, 700.
No, it's not.
He's not necessarily going to lose it.
No, I say he's going to lose it.
He could.
He can't get 78%.
Look.
See?
He can lose.
Wisconsin is what?
He can't lose it.
He can't lose that because it's 22% left on 2.75 million, Tom.
He can't lose that.
No, he can't lose that still.
He can lose those two.
Okay, but keep this part of mind, Ray.
Wisconsin and the other guys, they're going to go all night.
The one that may not is Pennsylvania, but Pennsylvania, he has to win $1.5 million.
You know what's $1.5 million?
He has to win 65% of the remaining votes.
See, that's what this guy in the Silver Hair has been saying all night.
He says, give him Nevada, give him Arizona.
That's what he's been pointing out, and saying, but he has to come back and win Wisconsin.
Biden.
He has to come back and win Michigan.
And then he can give up Pennsylvania.
No, no, no.
He has to win.
He has to win Pennsylvania.
Guys, he is not going to win Pennsylvania.
Unless he wins Arizona.
It's a miracle to win Pennsylvania.
By the way, the only reason they won't go up there.
But I'm going to tell you something, guys.
It's going to be embarrassing if he gets closer than Hillary.
By the way, take a look.
Georgia means how terrible of a candidate Hillary was.
Hillary's going to be sitting there.
He's going to get closer than Hillary.
I guarantee you that.
I put that on everything I love right now.
He's going to get closer to Henry.
If that happens, we're going to see Hillary.
They're already closer than that.
They're 91 and 95% counting.
That is a scary thought, what Hillary's going to be doing tonight.
New York Times should call Nevada and Arizona blue, and they should call North Carolina and Georgia red.
Wow.
And they should call Pennsylvania red.
Yeah, they're 91%.
In Georgia?
Yeah.
Georgia's 91%?
Georgia, yeah, I agree.
In North Carolina, 95%.
And look at the lead.
Go over to North Carolina, please.
Not a big lead.
70 grand.
No, it's not a big game.
Tom, what does this mean?
New York Times that they say.
Trump up three in Georgia, but they have a 64% forecast.
You can't count.
What does that mean?
Not yet.
No.
So remind me this.
This moves until this gets to 95, and then it goes permanent.
But what is Pennsylvania and Georgia?
Pennsylvania.
They woke back up.
But Georgia currently believe there's a 64% chance that you're going to be able to do that.
They believe that OG 13.
Yeah, I don't know how they crazy.
Not even Rhode Island.
Their statisticians think about it.
It also could be that it's nothing's being updated.
But that helps.
You're right.
Because remember, they went off the air.
You're right.
But not on corporate taxes and counts.
No, not on corporate.
Yes, exactly.
People are going to be hit by those two.
100%.
100%.
Oh, by the way, on the capital game, just so it's just a note.
Bathroom.
He lost.
He lost what bet?
He lost the bet.
What bet is that?
But who goes to the bathroom first, Beth?
No, he went to the bathroom first.
I wasn't in.
I don't know.
I got here like that.
What's that on your face?
I got it.
I got here late.
I didn't want to do it.
It's typically battle.
I'm used to this stuff.
This is progress, bud.
Yeah, I know.
Well, you don't know because I've already pissed on the floor.
I'm going out like that.
I heard you can't use the bathroom.
Trust me, I'm good.
So, Tom, he called you out for going to the doctor.
You lost!
I'm so disappointed you, Tom.
You know what I'm going to do for that?
Wait, wait, we're going to die.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, Adam, hold up.
You can't let you honestly have to do it.
You've been waiting for me before you go.
You just got to have to go to the bathroom.
You can't leave before you hear it.
Say that, what you just said.
You admit it.
I admit I lost.
Yes.
Okay, Jane admitted nothing else.
You got your something, tell me.
He admitted to something.
He doesn't like it.
Yeah.
He only admitted to what.
But he did to this.
Yes, I did.
We good.
Tom, you have people paying you money to just be honest.
That's all I want for it.
So, right now, as of right now, Tom, if you were to put a percentage right now, which way it's going, can you put a number on it?
My number hasn't changed.
I've been the same number for how long?
He's scared.
He's been at 85% for six months.
Tom scared right now.
You're scared right now.
No, I don't think I'm scared.
What do you think?
I think this thing's over.
I think this thing's over.
I think Georgia needs to wake up.
No, I think New York Times says that.
I am 90% certain this thing is over because North Carolina and Georgia are going to be red.
Wisconsin and Michigan are going to be red.
Red.
Doesn't matter what Pennsylvania is.
Nevada and Arizona are red.
Well, Wisconsin and Michigan are red.
This thing's over.
So that can't.
I think Arizona's going to go blue.
Yeah.
You think Arizona's going to go blue?
I think it's very funny to me.
It is funny.
That's the funniest thing of all this.
Yes.
Of all this.
By the way, something is Arizona.
Wall Street Journal.
Ain't nothing but old.
Old retired whiteboards.
Hang on here.
The New York Times.
Georgia, 91%.
Now, 93%.
And he's up to now 124,000 leads.
Wait, what?
Trump.
In Georgia.
Georgia is now 93%.
Let's do the math.
Go on Georgia at the 93% on New York Times.
That's 93%.
He's got 101.
120,000 votes.
91% lead.
But where do you see 99?
On the Fox News, it's 93.
It's 93% now.
And it's now 122,000 vote lead.
That's not 122.
Georgia is very close.
It's gone from 91 to 93 and it's extended.
50 to 48.
Yeah, but what you want to see is you want to see the numbers.
I want to see exactly what the count is of that job.
Okay, good.
Great.
You give me the numbers.
I'll do it right now.
Go for it.
2.366.
2.366.
266 million.
I know who you would have been if I was in high school with you.
2.248.
2.248.
95.
93.5.
2454.
4934.
Hang on.
Minus.
Okay, 4934.
Minus.
Of course.
Give it to me.
So the 2.366 minus the 2.248.
Absolutely.
248.
Correct.
Call me in L.A. 238.
446.
There's 246.
Yeah, my guy is Pete.
49.
The WISCEO.
4934.
Minus 2366.
Minus 2248.
It's over.
And Bel Air.
320,000.
And he's 128.
Yes.
Of course.
Georgia's done.
Georgia's done.
Pennsylvania's done.
By the way, Adam, Tom, Georgia's done.
I just did the math.
It's not possible.
Right.
If it's 93.5%, 320, he's got how big of a lead?
About 1020.
120?
120.
So here's what has to happen.
Biden's got to beat him 70, 30.
It's even worse.
Out of the 320, you're looking at 160, right?
160.
He needs to win.
They're right there.
220.
2100.
He doesn't have enough.
He has to win 220,000 of the 320,000 votes.
He has to win 69% of the rest of the votes.
Not going to happen.
Have you guys done North Carolina?
No, if you give it to me, I'll do it.
Okay, sure.
They're at 94%.
Trump's at 2.73 million.
2.7.
Give me exact.
2.73.
2,732,000.
Okay, got it.
And Biden is 2,655,000.
Correct.
Okay, so that's 5387.
And what's the percentage?
94.
Ooh.
5730 minus 5387.
343.
What's the difference?
How big is the elite?
The difference between those two.
2732, 2655.
So 655 to 732.
45 and 32.
45 and 32, 78.
45 and 32, 75.
Let's just.
77.
Okay, let's just say 75.
So 170.
76, 246.
He's got to win 246 to 100,000.
Really?
Not going to happen.
No.
So those are what two states?
That's North Carolina and Georgia.
He's going to win North Carolina and I'm going to go to the next one.
Michigan, he's really strong in right now.
What percentage do we have on Michigan?
Okay.
Well, only 65%.
Now, the vote difference is about 330,000.
How late does Michigan go by?
Hang on, hang on.
Pat, do this.
Go for it.
Pat, do this real quick.
So hang on.
Show me up with Kai a little bit more, Kai.
213 right now?
Yeah, okay.
213 plus.
Show me Pennsylvania.
20.
20.
Okay.
Show me North Carolina.
15.
15?
Yep.
Hang on.
Hang on one second.
213 plus 20 plus 15.
Yep.
213.
Georgia is 16 if you give them that.
213 plus 20 plus 15 plus 16.
That's not 264.
You need eight more.
He needs Wisconsin or Michigan.
And by the way, it's going to be Michigan.
He's 16.
It's going to be Michigan.
That's 16.
That's 15.
That's over.
280.
Correct?
280.
And by the way, he'll probably win Wisconsin 16.
Can I ask you a question?
Can I ask you a question?
Why was this a tougher beat than Hillary?
I'm actually dead serious with you guys.
What do you mean?
Why was this a tough beat?
I'm looking at the states and trying to think which one he didn't win.
I want to say coronavirus.
There wasn't coronavirus in 2016.
Hillary was very disfavorable.
Sam, is there anywhere we can get some ice for these guys?
Because he's having a drink with no one.
I'm with you.
I think that's a good idea.
I have a lot to do with it.
The female.
It honestly has a lot to do with it.
I don't know something really weird.
Or they find a trunk load of mysterious ballots.
You know what I mean?
We're going to make sure.
Insurance grade again.
And we're going to bring it.
I'm serious.
Why is this a tougher category?
I know.
I'm looking at the states.
In my opinion, there's three things.
Obviously, there's a freaking pandemic going on.
Okay.
Don't forget, we've never elected a female president, so there's people that have reservations.
I'm sure we can talk about that.
Or Hillary.
Hillary, okay.
George Floyd.
And other than Choice, Trump has one of the lowest favorability ratings ever.
You know who was number two?
Hillary.
So as much as Joe is sleepy and he's tired and he's old, he doesn't have very negative favorability ratings.
So COVID, female, favorability.
Those are the three.
No rioting tonight, right?
I haven't seen anything.
Can you search Kai to see if there's any kind of rioting going on?
It won't be tonight.
He's all in it.
All right, let's talk to our Antifa folks.
Let's call him.
Hold on.
Hang on, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on, let me say it away.
Stand down, stand by.
Stand back.
How do we call you?
Where we heard that before?
Let's call her and see what she can say.
Here, you take the lead with the call.
But stand by.
Give us an update on what's going on over there.
Are they expecting any riots?
I'll give you a little dialogue here.
I dialed already.
And Pat, just to put the thing on Michigan, only 65% of seen it or no.
Pat, call you on your.
Hello.
Wendy.
Yeah.
You're live on the podcast, the Patrick that David Podcast.
Oh, hi.
Hi, Podcast.
Hello.
All right.
Well, thanks for joining us.
We got a good crew here.
So Wendy is a news anchor and news reporter in Los Angeles at KTLA.
Wendy, so what's going on?
What are you guys reporting at KTLA?
Are you guys, what were the meetings like leading up to this?
Did you think this was a possibility?
Do you think it'd be this close?
Yeah, I think everybody was ready for anything.
I mean, and I think that LA, like many major cities, was ready for the long haul, as evidenced by the other night when I was standing along Rodeo Drive and every one of the buildings were being boarded up.
You know, if you would have told me a year ago that on election night, I'd be standing on Rodeo Drive wearing a face mask and Beverly Hills boarded up, I would have called you crazy.
So LA is really gearing for it.
I mean, you know, we've been a hotbed of protest rallies and Black Lives Matter.
And so I think the concern for LA, at least from the officials' perspective, is that there is a high likelihood of civil unrest for a number of days.
Nothing yet, though?
Nothing yet.
I mean, a little practice down at the Staples Center, but nothing in comparison to the crowd that gathered in the Lakers won the championship.
So that was pretty much it.
But, you know, they're on ready alert.
All of the police departments in the Los Angeles area and in Southern California have various degrees of tactical alerts, and they're all on them.
And what I find is interesting is that there are all these tactical alerts, but there's no official intel of any sort of organized protest or any buzz that there's going to be something big that will break out.
So it's interesting when you see Beverly Hill boarded up and that's driving their black tank down the street, you know, the Golden Triangle.
You know, is this going to be the tail whacking the dog a little bit?
You know, because they're doing all this and because people believe in, you know, tactical gear, will that, you know, maybe bring out people?
It remains to be seen.
But so far, the protests have been pretty scattered.
I think they have to have that show of force after what happened this summer.
Have you guys seen what Beverly Hills has rolled out?
It's insane.
The tanks and the heavy artillery.
They're not messing around.
Do they really have the tanks and heavy artillery prepared?
Yeah, Wendy, I mean, it's like military, isn't it?
National Guard's out?
It's like big.
No, I mean, they bought stuff.
It's Beverly Hills Police Department.
They're rolling out.
Yeah, but they've got all that stuff hidden somewhere in Beverly Hills.
Trotty's about to speak.
I'm telling you.
They boarded up several different things in Bel Air.
Hey, Wendy, what about the celebrity culture in Hollywood?
I mean, there's no way they saw this coming.
Celebrities are very, very nervous tonight.
There's a lot of drinking going on in Hollywood.
You know, I follow a lot of people.
Look at their tanks.
Oh, I bet they're having a lot of people.
Everybody, by and large, because they felt their voice is being heard, I think, really, and, you know, it's difficult to give a blanket statement, but I think that there was this belief that there would be a huge blue wave and that everyone heard this message from the Left Coast that Trump was bad and that, you know, we were going to win a landslide when that didn't happen.
And, you know, a lot of people were very fearful that it was going to be just another repeat of what we saw with Hillary Clinton.
And, you know, I think many people are still in this town crying over that.
So yeah, there's a lot of people, you know, grabbing a drink and grabbing a Xanax.
Yeah, no kidding.
So you know what?
The funny thing is, is they're going to save a lot of money.
They're going to have to, they're going to be able to hold on to a lot more of their money.
You think that might soften the blow a little for them?
For sure.
Well, I think that, you know, that's for their accountants.
But, you know, a lot of these celebrities have really put themselves out there.
I mean, more so than we've seen in other political campaigns.
I mean, this has become, you know, every celebrity has their passion project.
This election has been a passion project for many.
So, you know, you've got people like Christy Teegan and John Lennon saying that they're going to move out of America if Trump wins.
Right.
Hey, Wendy, what about in two years?
Do you think Newsome can get voted out?
You know, that's a good call.
I mean, if you talk to people that are the mask wearers and the folks that want, you know, great help for the homeless and, you know, the list goes on and on about the problem in California.
They're going to say, hey, this is a good guy.
He's dynamic.
You know, he's good looking.
He may be a little long-winded.
But, you know, he's kind of California.
But on the flip side of that, so many people are so upset about how California handles things and that there's the closure.
I think that we're going to have to watch this one come out because if California continues on track, you know, the rest of the country is really having explosions with the coronavirus cases.
And California is doing relatively okay.
I mean, we're moving in the right direction instead of the wrong direction.
So, you know, it's either he's going to come out looking like a sinner or a sane in this, but I think time's going to have to sell on that one.
Well, hey, thanks.
Call us back if riots start okay.
Wendy, thank you so much.
You're awesome.
Appreciate you.
All right, I'll go patrol Beverly Hills for you right now.
Thank you.
Bye, Wendy.
Bye, guys.
I just got a message from a friend of ours who said that Wisconsin says from Saleha Mozin, a tweet that went out tonight saying Wisconsin says there is no way they are announcing a winner tonight.
Michigan needs until Friday.
What?
They just announced it.
Michigan needs until Friday.
Pennsylvania isn't coming out anytime soon either per officials in those states.
Unbelievable.
Michigan needs till Friday because it takes time for the ink to dry and ballots are putting it.
So Tom, give us the current, you know, do what you do and give us the current state of the race.
Assuming that we don't have a clear winner tonight, you know, I know Tom's wishing for riots.
It doesn't look like riots are happening.
Raise learning stuff from Dennis Prager.
Yeah.
We don't need a case study and I don't think we need to torture the numbers.
I think we just took a look at the votes that are there and if the information we're getting from left and right, from New York Times, from Fox, that it is in fact 93, 94% of these precincts counted, that means that Georgia and North Carolina, unless there's something really bizarre, it appears that Trump's going to win those states and that Biden is absolutely going to win Nevada and Arizona.
There's no reason they shouldn't call those.
But they called Arizona once, so now they're not going to call it until they've fair to say that this entire race hinges on Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, the entire Russian.
Well, no, it hinges on Michigan and Pennsylvania, and the president is currently 700,000 up in Pennsylvania and 600,000 up in Michigan.
Just these four?
What percentage of the vote?
Just these four.
It's over.
Hopefully they can get some true election officials into those states and monitor things.
Has there ever been another time we didn't have election results within like 24 hours?
Yeah.
Like, when does that happen?
Bush score.
Bush score.
I was getting a lot younger.
32 days.
Yeah, that's why I'm going to say a whole month.
It was a month.
Okay, I was super, like, I was super young then.
Oh, me too.
Well, I'm suffering.
I'm sorry.
I'll admit it.
Yeah.
I was in at Florida State University, and I was an intern at the state capitol in my junior year of college during that.
And I remember there was just chaos.
Really?
And I was a big Clinton guy.
I mean, that was the first time I ever really paid attention to politics.
So, although I did like Reagan because I learned about him in history books.
But I voted for Gore, and I remember being around all this chaos at Florida State, FSU, Tallahassee.
That's the capital of Florida.
That's why I'm telling you where this is.
And it was just a month long of like news, media, drama, drama for your mama every single day.
And you said it was 32 days?
Yeah, that sounds about right.
It was a full-on month.
There's no entire month rolling.
There's no control legal authority that will determine this race.
What does that mean, Tom?
We still don't know what it means, but it's what Gore was saying for a week.
No.
There is no controlling legal authority.
You're about to give us your third impression?
No, I don't.
You killed it with Clinton.
I don't have to do it.
You killed it with.
Look, he got Clayton.
Who else did he have?
He had a parot out of nowhere.
Give us a little gore.
It's very lame, but let's see.
Can we do this at my restaurant?
Let's just say.
Where's your restaurant?
What's the food?
Asian Fusion.
Really?
Oh, I'm telling you.
Really?
I love Asian Fusion.
Where's your restaurant?
It's downtown Dallas.
Musamate.
It's on Crockett Street.
You name the street after you, huh?
Yeah.
Well, look, I paid for it.
Seriously.
Yeah, I paid for it.
Crockett Street.
Well, you're from Dallas.
I'm from Dallas.
Come with the Baylor University.
So you're in Dallas and Denver.
And Denver and Dallas.
That's you.
Adam's getting ideas.
He wants to sausnick.
I have a lounge next door.
Look, I have my house next door.
That's the only thing that's really nice.
Sauce Boulevard.
Saucy.
But in the Gore situation, was there also multiple states like this?
It was just Florida.
So you have three multiple states here that are saying we're not going to count votes or we're just...
No, it's four of the laws votes.
Right, right.
But you're fine in this situation.
We have multiple states now saying Bush was the winner.
You guys ready for Trump?
It ended up being Florida, but let's all remember what happened.
They're saying Trump is talking.
He's talking now?
Trump is speaking.
Coming soon.
But they're saying here that Trump is already talking.
I would also like to point out that this, I can tell how important this is to people.
Our viewership has not waned.
It's one o'clock in the morning.
Way up.
They up here.
Yeah, shout out to Valutainers out there.
You guys are seriously.
One of a kind.
If you're enjoying the podcast at this point, much love to you.
Push a thumbs up if you're enjoying the podcast so far.
You go, Valutainers.
This is the audience, man.
These guys got seven.
Somebody said Trump is speaking right now.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Trump is speaking, but we don't see it.
Kai, are you seeing anything with Trump speaking?
No, thank you.
We don't have a delay on any of this.
Trump is on.
Okay, then they're saying he's not speaking.
Okay, that's good to know.
Thanks, Sam.
Thanks, shenanigans.
Thanks, AAA2782.
I know it doesn't look it, but I think it's my English Canadian.
It's 2 o'clock in the morning for some of our viewers.
I'm trying to do a lot of orange colour up there.
You can tell in the summertime.
We burn like that.
Wow.
We've got people in Germany watching this.
What was the guy that's in the 1009 election?
Does everyone have cocktails?
Well, guys, we are well into the midnight hour.
It is 1 a.m.
I appreciate everyone being here.
We are first.
Tom, have you had a drink yet?
No, I don't know.
I made a drink.
I said he's not waiting.
I'm a blade.
Thank you.
I'm going to clear up something we were just talking about.
I'll take a little bit.
Do you know Tom Cole?
Tom!
Okay, I'll take a time.
Thank you.
Do you know, Tom Lewis?
I'll take you off.
Just give me a little splash.
Does everybody know why it matters in the 2000 election?
Why did Florida matter in the year 2000 election?
Because Florida matters in every election.
Because Gore lost Tennessee, his home state.
Ooh.
Handily.
That's embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
People forget that.
He lost his home state and he had to go 32 days in Florida for the Supreme Court to flip him off.
If he wins his home state, go back and look it up.
If he wins his home state, Florida doesn't matter.
I was also, I was 18 in 20 years.
Let me read you this.
it's interesting this is this book makes it all about florida and about tom is an encyclopedia Jesus.
Tom, you are the best on Google Elliott.
And I don't mean by a little bit.
Didn't he invent the internet too?
Do you want 18?
By the way, Fox News just supported National Guard brought in to help Wisconsin ballot counting the issue.
National Guard brought in for Wisconsin Counting.
Excuse me, can't you?
I think that should say National Guard sent him.
By who?
That would be the state.
I would imagine it's a big guy who wants to make sure that everything is straight.
Yeah, but he can't control the National Guard.
Who's the picture guy?
10%.
Thank goodness I do sense his overlap.
A lot of people are saying Adam is flipping.
I don't think Adam's flipped yet, just so everybody knows.
Well, I would like, I'm not going to say the news.
Pat gave me news right before the show.
You can't say the news.
I'm not.
I would never.
I'm not someone else that likes to.
The governor of Wisconsin is Democrats.
Keep that.
Oh, no.
Nothing about it is.
I'm just saying.
Save me some news that would incline me to be good with whoever wins and good with a Trump victory.
That's all I'll say.
All right.
You're good with that.
You'd be good with the Trump.
Hector Del Toro text me.
Hector's texting me for different reasons.
Go ahead, Ray.
You were going to say something?
No, I'm not.
Go ahead.
Oh, believe me, I'm not going to say nothing because Hector's expecting a different kind of answer.
Hector, listening.
What a Hector Lord.
You tell Hector.
Hector's.
You tell Hector that I like that guy.
I like him as well.
The thing that makes me nervous is Democratic governors.
Yeah, let's talk about Illinois.
You're talking about Governor Pritzker.
Oh, heck there's another guy.
He's already a billionaire.
Inherited billions.
Pritzker.
But then he wants to raise.
He wants to reform tax in Illinois.
By the way, NL has been going strong with us for six straight hours since 7 p.m. from Norway.
Norway.
Gore NL, Team Kai, Loda.
We got Morocco in the house, too.
We got India, we got Israel.
We got him in our hands.
I think our value taters know that we have a fun place in our heart for Norwegians.
For Norway.
Because of Kai.
Because of Kai specifically.
You know what, AZ?
Why don't we do it right now?
This is a good time.
Why don't we do it right now?
So if you want to, you know, this is a good time for us to make a public announcement.
Mario, if you're ready, Mario, why don't you come out here, Mario?
This is a good time for us to make an announcement in front of everybody.
Of course.
Mario here to show us.
Mario is knocked out in the truck right in this new car.
Mario got a new car today.
A brand spanking challenge.
All right.
Black wheels.
It looks sick.
Is Mario here or he's gone?
Mario.
He's in the spa.
There's me and Mario.
Is he in the spa?
Gotcha.
Anytime.
He's getting a foot massage.
You can swag with your mother.
I want to point out that Kai is the first person in the LTC class to finish everything.
Kai's a gangster.
He came in strong with him.
I'm not surprised.
He's already done.
LTC meaning long-term care.
I like this teacher a lot.
Tell us.
So, Mario, you want to make the announcement to everybody?
What you got, Mario?
Yeah, well, yesterday?
By whatever day.
Can't take Mario Simpson right now.
They got like finger signals.
Yeah, you're like, not even hand signals.
Like finger singles.
Man, I think you don't know what you want to do.
Pull a Tom.
Announce something.
What's going on?
He's just waiting.
Oh, that is so good.
Yeah.
Check.
Oh, okay, there you go.
Check to see if the kids are here.
I want to know if there's any value teamers in the Philippines.
Anyone from the Philippines?
I wonder if you're not going to see it.
Yeah, we have some Philippines.
Syria always in the house.
Where's my cover by?
Should I?
Where's my thrills from Manila?
Check.
Okay?
So, Vanilla and Manila.
Whatever day you want to learn.
Vanilla Manila.
You are the thriller from Manila.
And I got you.
You ain't got to listen to me.
You guys realize we've been going since 7 p.m.
You didn't realize that.
Six straight hats.
You just give us your best personal curve.
This is the longest one we've ever done.
Times two.
I've lived.
Right?
Times two.
By the way, at some point, we should bring like some of Brandon stuff.
If somebody wants to take a nap, I'll show you something.
Take this picture at Douglas Stadium.
But let me tell you the restaurant that's like mine from the bottom.
Here's the boot.
Bungers.
Bungers from Philippine.
Mazario has an announcement.
Mario has an announcement.
Hold on, ladies.
Ario has an announcement.
Uh-oh, Trump's coming.
Dude, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let's see who's coming.
Anyways, dude, he's not up yet.
Do the announcement.
There's none.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy day.
To you.
Happy birthday.
Sappabo.
Happy birthday to you.
What's up?
My man.
Happy dinner.
God bless.
Hey.
I wish you happy birthday.
You didn't respond to me.
Oh, what's up?
Is that Rob your birthday?
I'm going to blow this can in your direction, man.
Yeah, blow this candle over here.
I hope your birthday is.
That's the coolest cake I've ever seen.
It's a multicultural cake.
Is that a carrot cake?
That's a pretty sick cake.
Red velvet?
Oh, my God.
Every day I drive your sweater.
Here you go.
Trump personally.
This is your political.
That is hilarious.
There you go.
Thank you.
Thank you, Switzerland.
I offer you.
I'm never on the bottom.
I'll go with the red.
Just like that.
Like, every time you're here.
What is this?
Red velvet is good.
I'll try a little red velvet.
I'll take anything.
Everybody's slice of red at night, even Adam.
That's right.
Okay, thank you.
That was very gentle.
Thank you so much.
So, okay, so we just got to go.
By the way, he was a CNN.
People are going to be a little bit more.
By the way, he's running for office.
I like this dude.
He looks better this year than he did last year, than two years ago.
He looks better and better every year.
Our buddy Matt's.
Thank you, Brad.
He bench presses now three plates.
How many times?
Two times, three fifty plus.
Three plates.
He's mentioned four plates.
He's squatting four plates.
At 6'4, 86.
That's pretty impressive.
46 years old?
47.
I turned 40.
47?
No.
You've got a few guys that could run for office that we've talked to tonight.
100%.
You know?
Seriously.
Dennis Prager for president.
100%.
No, no, he's talking about the leader.
So let me ask you this.
Here's a question for you.
I asked, what do you think Biden's going to come out and say?
And you called it.
You pretty much called it, right?
You and Tom called it.
Now, what is Trump going to come out at?
We won this thing.
It's over.
Stand back, stand down.
Yeah, you know what it was now.
His main message is going to be a hair house.
We are not going to let them steal it.
That is going to be a lot of people.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
No, he's going to stay.
They're not going to steal the election.
He's probably going to say that.
We're going to try to.
I wonder what he's tweeting right now.
Let me tell you, too, Patty.
They're going to try to steal this election, but we're going to win it.
The lighting, you guys did a great job.
Really, seriously.
Well done.
By the way, they've been going for six plus hours.
Phenomenal job.
No glitches.
Good stuff, guys.
Good stuff.
Seriously, everybody.
Even Luis with his new Hollywood hairdo.
Paul with his muscles.
Paul, what do you mention nowadays, Paul?
$3.15 for two.
Spotify.
That was a quick moment of boogeynights.
$315.
No, no, no.
That was a moment of boogeynets.
You ever seen boogie nights, Paul?
You ever seen boogie nights or no?
I don't think so.
Of course you have.
What do you say?
I know you have.
What do you mention?
180.
What do you mention?
185.
Somebody who said they went out every night.
If you seen boogeynights.
You want my boogeynight store?
This is my boogeynight store.
We're in the Army.
One of our guys named Patty.
Patty goes to the PX and says, there's this movie at 99 cents, so I got it.
I said, awesome.
Let's watch it.
Boogie nights.
And you see my clock.
Do you remember the movie?
A classic movie, man.
We're sitting there saying, what the hell did you guys do?
It was just 99 cents.
I bought what I could.
I bought what I could.
Boogie nights.
Quick shout out to a couple of key members behind the scenes.
Number one.
Hey, Louis.
CNNBC, Trump Live.
Luis, our boy.
Charging 9.
Just became a job.
You damn it.
Hell.
Can you guys get CNN?
My birthday.
Oh, my daughter.
Your job's bad.
Looking great.
He has not had a cocktail in 11 days.
He's a Libra.
Almost 10 days?
11 days?
11 days.
Looks great.
No, I think they're talking about Paul, right?
Yeah.
Who was in call?
Yeah, 11 days.
He's not alcoholic.
No explanation needed.
He's not an ever break.
Where is your restaurant, Dallas?
Tom, let me ask you a question.
Question for you.
Do you think tonight they're going to call it?
Nope.
No one's going to call it tonight.
Nope.
Because are you guys all on the nope camp?
Well, because 100% no.
I think they're going to give Pennsylvania.
I think they're going to give me Wisconsin and Georgia are going to give these professionals.
Seven figure squads said happy birthday to Mad Franz on the seven figure squads.
Awesome.
Especially in other states who have larger populations.
What are you talking about?
Georgia, he's saying Georgia and Pennsylvania will get, what did you call it, professional courtesy?
Yeah.
Tom on that.
And I'm wondering why are they taking so long in comparison to, I mean, Texas is done.
We're on.
Certain states will have more mail-in ballots.
Guys, is Trump on or no?
Because it's saying Trump is on.
Thank you, Bill.
No, I don't say so speaks.
Mad artists.
50 people said he's on.
He's on.
He's on.
I got my license.
I got you.
I'm on that.
I got you.
Okay.
Look, I got my license now.
I mean, these are snapbacks, too.
You know the rallies, you know the energy, right?
Here's a quote from one of the rallies.
It's my favorite quote of the week.
No, he's not on yet.
Sam's on the Trump tracker.
People aren't minding CNN, you dumb bastards.
See?
How can you not?
Now you ask me why you get put in there.
You ask why.
Now you ask why.
He responds like, yeah.
That's why.
I'm just saying.
I mean, she talks about college face.
Hey, when you grew up in the hood, your mama used to always say, if you don't want none, don't give none.
But we have to.
You don't get it.
We have to say he talks all kinds of shit and doesn't worry about getting punched in the face.
But says something.
No, no, no, you don't understand.
LeBron's from the hood.
LeBron's from the hood.
Guys, you know, that's all I'm talking about.
All those red states and all those red votes, those people have wanted to say that to their boss.
Yes, forever.
This guy is saying something.
But that's why I voted for him the first time.
Because I knew his mentality.
I knew who he was and how he would act.
I just didn't think it would go this far.
I knew he was saying some stuff.
He wasn't acting.
No, no, that's Jill Hart.
That's him.
Oh, I'm telling you.
I wish I could remember his opening speech to the film festival.
Oh, yeah.
I swear, and it went something like this.
Don't quote me.
I can't.
But it went something like this.
You're paraphrasing.
Paraphrasing.
It went something like this.
I'm glad to have all you guys here.
Some of your films suck.
And some of them be real good.
The ones that are real good will get recognized.
So shit like that.
He was already calling them out.
He was like, some of you guys' films will suck.
The others that are good will get recognized.
The one that knows something was crazy.
They're saying that.
In our company, that would be very normal.
Yeah.
But that's how it goes.
Why would people feel that?
Why are you dead?
But he was just like, but he was just like, but at any rate, by the way, Pennsylvania is a bit more.
Yeah, so CNN might not show up.
Pennsylvania just hit 71%.
So they're continuing to count, apparently.
All right, why don't you show a couple minutes?
Versus 67.
Let's see what happened with Adam here, how he is in the streets.
Deep Ellum, Texas.
Wisconsin is stopped.
Let's see Adam's game.
Secure on behalf of Value Tame.
We are here in Deep Ellum, downtown Dallas, Texas.
People are saying that this is the most important presidential election of our lifetime.
People are saying that the polls are too close to call.
So we're going to find out what the people are saying about the presidential election.
So there's an election in a few days.
Of course.
Are you planning on voting?
Of course, mask.
Of course.
Who got a mask on?
Not who is currently president.
You're not voting for Trump.
No.
Are you guys voted?
We already have.
You already have.
Would you tell us who you're voting for?
Trump.
Biden.
Trump.
I already voted and I voted for Biden.
Joe.
You voted for Joe Biden.
Joe Jorgensen.
Joe Jorgensen.
So you slipped it on me.
I thought you were going Joe Biden.
Now, here's my question for you: Why did you waste your vote?
Trump all day.
You weren't sure who you voted for.
Do you want to talk about Biden?
I'm voting for Biden.
Biden.
You're voting for Biden.
I am also voting for Joe Biden.
So we got two Joe.
It's funny how people write away.
Trump's not out here.
Let him keep going.
Trump's not out here.
I am actually not voting this year.
Are you guys voting?
No.
What?
No, no, no.
We got three non-voters.
We go back 10 seconds.
What happened?
Looks like a celebration over here.
I am actually not voting this year.
Are you guys voting?
Oh, good.
No.
We got three non-voters.
I'm all over the place.
All right, go to Trump.
Hurry up.
Get up, of course.
I'm staging me, Trump.
Thanks, bro.
We won the time to vote.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, please, Sid.
Thank you.
This is without question the latest news conference I've ever had.
We love you.
Thank you.
COVID hurt.
I appreciate it very much.
And I want to thank the American people for their tremendous support.
Millions and millions of people voted for us tonight.
And a very sad group of people is trying to disenfranchise that group of people.
And we won't stand for it.
We will not stand for it.
I want to thank the First Lady, my entire family, and Vice President Pence, Mrs. Pence, for being with us all through this.
And we were getting ready for a big celebration.
We were winning everything, and all of a sudden it was just called off.
The results tonight have been phenomenal, and we are getting ready.
I mean, literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good.
Such a vote, such a success.
The citizens of this country have come out in record numbers.
This is a record.
There's never been anything like it.
To support our incredible movement, we won states that we weren't expected to win.
Florida, we didn't win it.
We won it by a lot, and we won the great state of Ohio.
We won Texas.
We won Texas.
We won Texas by 700,000 votes, and they don't even include it in the tabulations.
It's also clear that we have won Georgia.
We're up by 2.5% or 117,000 votes with only 7% left.
They're never going to catch us.
They can't catch us.
He's right.
Likewise, North Carolina.
That's 45%.
That's 40%.
1.4% or 77,000 votes with only approximately 5% left.
They can't catch us.
We also, if you look and you see, Arizona, we have a lot of life in that.
And somebody said, somebody declared that it was a victory for us.
And maybe it will be.
I mean, that's possible.
But certainly there were a lot of votes out there that we could get because we're now just coming into what they call Trump territory.
I don't know what you call it, but these were friendly Trump voters.
And that could be overturned.
The gentleman that called it, I watched tonight, he said, well, we think it's fairly unlikely that he could catch.
Well, fairly unlikely.
And we don't even need it.
We don't need that.
That was just a state that if we would have gotten it, it would have been nice, Arizona.
But there's a possibility, maybe even a good possibility.
In fact, since I saw that originally, it's been changed, and the numbers have substantially come down just in a small amount of votes.
So we want that obviously to stay in play.
But most importantly, we're winning Pennsylvania by a tremendous amount of votes.
That's embarrassing.
700.
Embarrassing.
Body from under oil comments.
Big mistake.
Second debate.
Pennsylvania.
We're up 600.
Think of this.
We're up 690,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
600 million.
These aren't even close.
It's not like, oh, it's close.
With 64% of the vote in, it's going to be almost impossible to catch.
And we're coming into good Pennsylvania areas where they happen to like your president.
So we'll probably expand that.
We're winning Michigan.
I'll tell you, I looked at the numbers.
I said, whoa.
I looked, I said, wow, that's a lot.
By almost 300,000 votes.
And 65% of the vote is in.
250,000.
And we're winning Wisconsin.
We don't need all of that.
We need a different conversation in Biden.
We need because when you add Texas in, which wasn't added, I spoke with the really wonderful governor of Texas just a little while ago.
Greg Abbott.
Greg Abbott, he said, congratulations.
He called me to congratulate me on winning Texas.
I mean, we won Texas.
I don't think they finished quite the tabulation, but there's no way.
And it was almost complete.
But he congratulated me.
Then he said, by the way, what's going on?
I've never seen anything like this.
Can I tell you what?
Nobody has.
So we won by 107,000 votes with 81% of the vote.
That's Michigan.
So when you take those three states in particular, and you take all of the others, I mean, we have so many.
We had such a big night.
You just take a look at all of these states that we've won tonight, and then you take a look at the kind of margins that we've won them by.
And all of a sudden, it's not like we're up 12 votes and we have 60% left.
We won states, and all of a sudden, I said, what happened to the election?
It's off.
And we have all these announcers saying, what happened?
And then they said, oh, because you know what happened?
They knew they couldn't win.
So they said, let's go to court.
And did I predict this, Newton?
Did I say this?
I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots.
They said exactly because either they were going to win, or if they didn't win, they'll take us to court.
So Florida was a tremendous victory, 377,000.
Texas, as we said.
Ohio.
Think of this.
Ohio, a tremendous state, a big state.
I love Ohio.
We won by 8.1%, 460.
Almost 500,000 votes.
North Carolina, big victory with North Carolina.
So we won there.
We lead by 76,000 votes with almost nothing left.
Absolutely.
And all of a sudden, everything just stopped.
This is a fraud on the American public.
This is an embarrassment to our country.
We were getting ready to win this election.
Frankly, we did win this election.
So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation.
This is a very big moment.
This is a major fraud in our nation.
We want the law to be used in a proper manner.
So we'll be going to the U.S. Supreme Court.
We want all voting to stop.
We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list.
Okay.
It's a very sad moment.
To me, this is a very sad moment.
And we will win this.
And as far as I'm concerned, we already have won it.
So I just want to thank you.
And I want to thank all of our support.
I want to thank all of the people that worked with us.
And Mr. Vice President, say a few words, please.
Please.
He looks so tired.
You're just looking at him.
He looks like he just woke up from a nap.
Honestly.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I want to join you in thanking more than 60 million women who have already cast their vote for four more years for President Donald Trump in the White House.
And while the votes continue to be counted, we're going to remain vigilant, as the President said.
The right to vote has been at the center of our democracy since the founding of this nation, and we're going to protect the integrity of the vote.
But I really believe with all of my heart, with the extraordinary margins, Mr. President, that you've inspired in the states that you just described and the way that you launched this movement across the country to make America great again, I truly do believe, as you do, that we are on the road to victory and we will make America great again, again.
Supreme Court, baby, whatever it takes.
I was our way and who controls the president.
Well, Biden, who went to say a while ago.
She was already hearing cases yesterday.
What a move.
What a move.
That looks kind of presidential.
I mean, he was cool and calm.
Power play right there.
I liked what he did.
You want to play that game?
It's called 6'3.
Let's see what this guy's going to do.
Watch what he says.
Remember, Jake Tapper's only in.
That's almost everything President Trump said in his Declaration of Victory was not true.
It is true that he is ahead in the polls right now in Georgia and North Carolina.
Whether or not Biden will ever catch up is a matter for Georgia and North Carolina and their election officials to decide.
It is not true that he is winning Pennsylvania or winning Michigan or winning Wisconsin.
They are still counting votes.
They have literally millions of vote-by-mail ballots that those three states are counting.
It may well be that President Trump ends up winning this election.
That might be once the ballots are counted.
But what President Trump just said was undemocratic and false and premature.
It is not accurate to say that he won.
We do not know who won this election.
And I have to say, Dana, it's not a surprise, but still, years into this president.
I find it shockingly disappointing that he still would continue to erode faith that the American people have in institutions.
What is going on right now?
Yeah, what happened?
Oh, my God.
Oh, this is a tamper.
He changes to erode the faith.
They want to try, except for the issue.
Thomas, what made you switch?
What made you switch?
Be honest.
We got a lot of dark situations.
Final thoughts before we wrap up because ain't nothing going to happen tonight.
Okay.
But final thoughts before we wrap up.
No, it's done.
It's not going to happen.
Trump's speech was Supreme Court.
That means, honestly, my prediction is earliest is end of this week.
It ain't even tomorrow.
I think this thing's going to end this week.
What do you guys think?
I say it's 2020.
Expect something very, very weird and bizarre to happen.
I think he laid the foundation.
That's why he took time to come and say what he wanted to say.
Every word was measured and thought through.
The Supreme Court.
We all know if he goes to the Supreme Court, he should have them on his side.
Hopefully, you know, with these states still having a number of votes to count, they can get election officials in there and monitor it and make sure everything is done right.
So you really think something is going on?
Oh, until Joe Biden has completely gone away, anything is possible.
Without a doubt, you think that they're going to be up all night, the Democrats, trying to figure out if they already haven't.
They've got the playbook for what they want to do for this.
So he's got to fight as dirty as they are or as aggressive as they are.
And he laid the groundwork by what he said.
And I hope for the sake of the country, it's time for this to end.
And I hope we get a result very, very soon.
For him to say I won is a mistake?
No, he's a competitor.
He believes he has one.
He looks at the number.
He looks at the data, the votes that are left, the percentage that's already been cast, and he's made a conclusion that he's won.
This is the mathematical problem.
He's doing the exact same thing any other politician would have done.
Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia.
Let's not talk about Michigan and Wisconsin, although Wisconsin's at 81 as they shut down, by the way.
But Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, we did the math here.
Yeah.
Was Biden going to win 92% of all remaining votes?
That's difficult.
That's it.
And so, which means that this thing is on the cusp in the first place.
I think two things I'm thinking right here.
And one thing I'm thinking is: I go to RealClear Politics and I look at the summary of the polls, and then you go down and you look at those 20-some polling companies.
Polling in America, Americans donate hard-earned dollars.
Never mind the PACs.
There is people like my mom, your mom, or brothers, sisters, maybe us, that give $100, $200 to a campaign because they really believe what's going on.
And these campaigns spend millions of dollars on polling that is not just wrong, but way wrong.
There's not one enterprise on here that is close to being correct in these key states.
Yet they make millions of dollars during the electoral cycle.
So I think the way we're going to be voting in the future and the way we're going to be polling and estimating is going to be different because the big three liberal networks have now been embarrassed on two consecutive elections.
There were four outcomes tonight.
A blue wave that they've been talking about, right, with a tent in their pants for the last three weeks.
Right?
With a what?
With a what?
I'm sorry.
Let Tom do his.
I'm sorry, wasn't that sweet?
I'm sorry, Tom.
Wait, wait, what?
Excuse me, what was the name?
Wait a minute, something different.
What was the name of the cowboy character in Toy Story?
Woody.
Woody.
Thanks.
Oh, that's what it is.
Oh, okay.
So first they were thinking Blue Wave.
They've all been talking about it.
Second, they were thinking, well, or close but decisive.
They were never thinking nail biter and they were never thinking Trump landslide.
Newt Gingrich said that, but they were never thinking red nail biter.
We've got a red nail biter.
They're sitting there now, these networks and everything that went with them, and they're embarrassed for the second electoral cycle.
We got it wrong.
I don't think they have any shame.
I don't think they can be embarrassed.
If I'm Ford, where do I put my ad dollars?
I'm thinking.
The embarrassment is those states that can't report tonight.
It's a joke.
There's six states that can't get their act together.
Georgia just called it off for some reason, right?
I'm so curious about that.
I can't wrap my head around why you wouldn't stay up all night to count these voters.
Unless you're in a warehouse trying to make more.
I mean.
That's a very important thing.
You can't make that shady statement.
But let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
You said that's a shady statement.
You said that's a shady statement.
Tell me why.
Why the politics on the local level all the time?
Like in Carrollton, where I live, one of the mayoral candidates was charged with 100 counts of voter fraud.
100 counts?
Is that legal?
Carrollton, Texas.
This voter fraud myth in national elections has been, like, give me a case example.
Give me a case.
Dewey.
That has been Chicago.
Mayor.
What year was John F. Kennedy?
West Virginia.
Presidential election.
There's a million presidential elections.
Yes, that's presidential election.
The moon shiners for Joe Vernon.
It wasn't our lifetime.
How many books have been written about?
You want to go pop it up.
Prosecutor Right now.
Go pull it off my mind.
What philosophy for the last 50 years?
There's no phones.
Yes.
What year was that?
64.
That's not our lifetime.
That's 50 years prior to that.
You said 50 years.
That's six years prior to that.
What are you talking about?
That doesn't happen.
This has happened many times.
54 was...
64 is 56 years ago.
Nixon felt that Joe Kennedy and West Virginia and Mayor Dale stole the election.
And Nixon said, I will not contest it for the good of the country.
Okay, in the last 50 years, has it happened?
Okay, so what are your thoughts?
Tom gave his.
He gave his.
Where are you at?
I'm just pumping the brakes on like massive fraud.
This is all going to be stolen.
Unless you think we don't live in a year of democracy.
Every year we're going to be super shot out of Carl.
That's me.
Maybe I offended you and I'm wrong.
How do you feel?
That's fine.
I'm just trying to diffuse this whole stolen election.
Oh, my gosh.
You know what?
This whole thing's rigged, and it's all a shame.
Oh, that was Trump four years ago.
The reality is this.
We don't know who's won yet, clearly.
Clearly, Trump looks to be the favorite.
I'm going to give a silver lining here.
What I would hope, if Trump is the winner, is that he will somehow not be this divisive, vindictive character and actually try to be the president for the entire nation.
So I know that we have a lot of people who are obsessed with Trump here and think that he can do no wrong.
But I assure you, half the country is going to be very upset.
And what I would implore people is to give him a chance and for him to give the other half of the country a chance of hearing why they do not sympathize with the way that he acts.
I pray, and I don't pray.
I pray that he actually acts presidential and that he actually tries to do well for the entire country.
Were you in the bathroom when we all admitted that he was annoying?
Because that's what I'm saying.
I've heard you say economy.
I've said this.
Okay, Jared, how about yourself?
I'm pissed.
I'm pissed that we don't have an end game tonight.
And she's on.
I'm irritated by that.
Why would that's on the table?
Because I think that because I don't like the idea of mail-in ballots.
I mean, I get it for like military and like doing a pandemic.
I did that.
What do you mean you don't learn a pandemic?
Are you kidding me right now?
I'm just kidding.
I mean, even though some people don't think it's a pandemic, it is a pandemic for us.
This was a situation where all we had to do was be courteous of others.
We never had to.
We never, outside of the first three weeks that we walked this down, we never had to do that.
Well, this was a ridiculous reaction by people who live in fear.
Okay?
I'm not a fearful person.
I'm over it.
I'm 100% over it.
I'm going to say the one word.
Look, that's your mindset.
Look, my mom, I'll be straight up.
My mom is 78 years old.
My mom ain't left the house in like six months.
But don't you?
You have a mail-in ballot.
Don't talk.
I just don't know.
She ain't left the house for like six months.
I've even come to her house and left shit on the porch.
I just watch it.
Yeah.
Left stuff on the porch.
Ray.
And deploy military.
Those are the only people that are allowed to do mail in business.
But that's what I'm just saying.
Just because.
But there's other people who feel the same way.
If you are an able-bodied person that can stick a mask on your face, you should have been at a damn poll.
You should have been.
I voted in Florida.
Why?
Because I've been in Texas for the last four months.
Do I not just have to fucking fly back to Florida to vote?
Or can I use a mail-in ballot?
You're not everybody.
I say use your gun.
But there's a lot of people out there.
You know, Texas is great of a lot.
Like L.A., I was just in L.A. I literally met hundreds of people.
None of them are from.
I feel like you're the most important thing.
And they fly back.
I don't feel like there's an overwhelming number of people.
If I have the option of filling out my ballot from home versus having to go, I did this four years ago.
I think that's lazy.
I'll be honest.
Sure.
Call me lazy, but I voted and it wasn't fraudulent.
But you don't know that.
What don't I know?
How do you know that your mail-in vote wasn't fraudulent?
How do you know that?
How do I know that my own mail-in vote wasn't fraudulent?
How do you know that you're like.
Was it counted or not counted?
You don't know that.
I don't know.
There's actually a way for you to track.
There's a tracking number on the ballot.
But unless you've done it, you won't know.
So did you do it?
How do I know that when I stick my ballot in the frickin' when I'm voting in the mailbox that it actually gets a number out?
Okay.
So you know what?
Then why are we even in America?
Because if everything's so why the fuck do we even live here?
I'm trying to steal the data.
How do I know we're even living in reality right now?
Everything's pumping off.
It's like a kid at the end of the night.
You're about to go there and get off.
Two of the goddamn wars.
You're rounding.
I got an earthly conspiracy theorist.
Everything is fraudulent, all right?
They just can't wrap up.
Oh, there's all the fighting lost.
But wait, but wait, but wait.
All I'm going to say is this.
I don't recall this much fraudulent talk with the other presidents.
All of a sudden, everything is fraudulent.
This is a very long text.
You can't mail it.
You can't.
It started.
Yeah, you know, the reason we're going to call it is because they announced.
The winner that night.
You don't think this is sketch?
That's sketchy.
Six states that haven't reported.
That's a joke.
And it was sketchy.
It was edgy in 2000.
No, it doesn't happen all the time.
How many times do you think the election is called the night of the every time?
It would be more sketchy now, though.
There's so much more.
That's why it was so unique.
When Obama beat Romney, there was a lot of talk about disenfranchisement.
Now, they didn't use the fraud word, but they talked a lot about disenfranchisement.
So it's a brother at the ham.
It's not.
You're trying to keep it.
But he was heard.
We've heard everybody.
Let's go.
We got Matt.
I'll say a couple words.
We'll wrap up.
Matt, tell us.
So before they even began, I wrote three possible outcomes.
Number one, large victory.
Oops.
The second one, a slim victory.
Another one, I thought was the last time I listed was one week later.
I'd never thought that I'd see six states not count votes.
As an entrepreneur, I don't vibe with this because I don't go home until the job gets done.
It is lazy.
So conduct this.
Go back as an entrepreneur.
Why did you have to say that?
Because that's the tenets of what this conjugate was found on.
Land of the free, the home of the brave.
I like it.
What did Dennis talk about earlier today?
It's about the land of the, not the land of safety and security, but versus the free and the brave.
That's it.
That's what our country was founded on.
And back then they were farming, they were hunting, they got the job, their family weren't eating.
And I think if that's the reason why they can't go, because something sketchy is going on and people are trying to, I don't know.
Sometimes you just smell bullshit.
This is it.
I just like to hear that when you said as an entrepreneur, because that means more.
Because you are doing what this country was found.
In this country, then the entrepreneur, the majority of the country, poor soldiers.
Hey, it's midnight.
Can we stop shooting?
The governor of Georgia is a Republican.
That's why Warsworth.
Right?
Finish it.
The governor of Michigan is a Democrat.
Point is, I'm giving you that there's Republicans, there's Democrats.
I don't know state by state.
Neither one of them.
They're all in cahoots.
Are they all cheating?
Is the governor of Georgia not counting the votes?
Is he cheating, but only the Democratic states?
I really want to understand who we think is cheating.
I don't know what the powers at B are.
I just don't know what the powers at B. All I know is that when six states, there's something funny going on here, where there's a coordinated effort to not count the state.
So if it was like all Democratic states, I'd be like, oh, it is all Democrats.
Five out of six.
Five out of six.
So Michigan voted blue last time.
Georgia voted blue last time.
It's a nice blue statement.
It's very nice.
It's easy to say.
Oh, it's fraud.
I think the governor really.
I think the governor of Michigan made Michigan this way.
Whitmer?
Say that again?
What has she done for the last three weeks?
Almost got kidnapped.
Did you worry about it?
She's like destroying it.
Typical Tom.
There are things.
Let me see, Matt.
Anything else on your list?
Has she not destroyed?
So I hope that this gets done sooner than later.
I hope it doesn't take a week later, like I wrote my initial notes.
That was the least thing I had on my list.
We've got to prophesy.
Yeah, but I hope that the conversations behind closed doors, I don't know what those are.
I don't know what the power plays are behind closed doors.
This is my first time experiencing it myself.
But I think for many people right now, they're disappointed in this process.
Tom was talking about the millions of dollars get spent to fix this type of problem.
Yet, here we are.
Again, second time in a row.
Here's what I say is going on tonight.
Okay, let me prep you on what's going on tonight.
Okay.
I guarantee you, tomorrow, every single anchor, host, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, they're all going to have the same blanket statement to make because tonight there's a national conference call.
Yes.
With all of them, for all of them to use the same wording, that memorandum, that email is going to be passed down with the wording from everybody, whether the bosses have it, and then they pass it to their people.
That's what's going to happen tonight.
Then, tonight, there's a meeting with Biden, with the Obamas of the world, with every one of those guys, what they're going to be doing.
They already got a strategy together: what attorney, how they're going to drag it out, what they're going to do, beat a dead horse.
Then, there's a strategy to say, What do we need to do?
Maybe we need some riots even higher at a higher level.
Maybe we need that at a higher level to show how upset the American people are.
That may happen tomorrow, the next day.
But you better believe tonight, a long conference call is taking place tonight.
Tonight, it's going on right now as we speak.
How to fix this?
There is a right now meeting going on.
Media, politics, they're all talking right now to be on the same page.
And you're going to see every one of them are going to say the same words tomorrow.
Everyone.
Here's my question.
Oh, I agree with you.
Does that conversation change the fact that the votes still just need to be counted?
Even if they have all the same talking points, well, this is how it works.
Like, if Trump wins, he should win.
No, we're going to hear stories tomorrow about how votes didn't get counted or got lost or just showed up or didn't get a chance to be.
So, all those states are coordinating?
But you will hear you.
I mean, I work with Fox.
I work for ESPN.
And it's the same thing that happens when something big news happened in sports, whatever.
We get to say, when I walked in, I had a memorandum on my desk.
I read that.
Ray, you can say this, you can't say this, you can't say this, you can throw this, you can warn this.
That's what they're getting right now.
They're all getting the same thing.
Because at the end of the day, media are against each other, but in something like this, they're together.
So, what do you mean by the money?
So, you gotta get that call.
It's different by states.
Yes.
And the states handled it differently.
Oh, some states changed it just this year.
Right.
Right.
They just changed it this year.
You think mail-in ballots should have to be in 48 hours before election day.
If you're going to mail it in, you need to be on the ball with it.
And I think that the election day needs to be a national holiday where the bulk of America doesn't go to work so they can do it.
And the sports made it a national holiday, yeah.
Oh, you should go.
You should go look up the 2000 election and go really read it.
There's several good books in the 2000 election, and they're not all conservative at all.
And there is an admission in there, and it's an admission that both sides make, was that there is a successful suit to stop the counting in Florida of these military votes.
And you can go look it up and get me on this.
But I believe it was 6,000.
Because remember, Florida was this.
It's like a sheet of paper in thickness.
You'll think it was 6,000, but it was 6,000 military votes that have merely not been processed, but they'd been received properly because they go through military mail, which is duffel bags of military airplanes that are then dropped off at distribution centers in the United States states.
APIPI addresses.
Correct?
Right?
APOs.
And so these are all the, am I correct?
APOs?
Correct.
All the APOs.
And so there's like a bag, and they openly said, you know, it was really a BS move because those young men and women that were in the military, all those votes had been processed quickly, but because I had been received stateside, but they hadn't been processed quickly.
And so one of the motions of the Gore campaign, David Boyce, got those eliminated.
And so this has been going on for a while, you know, about what votes do you count, when do you count them?
And there are parts in this where good, practical votes that were mailed in, sent in, dried by, appropriately done, all need to be counted.
And then there's going to be people looking for the cracks in the wall to find a way to stop bumps.
And that's what I think sucks.
What I think sucks is that the forces that are in there right now that want to stop it.
I'm not really worried about if all the news media wants to say president premature and presumptuous in his remarks, and they all say premature and presumptuous.
I think Pat's right.
But that doesn't really bother me as much as APO ballots or whatever they try to do where they will successfully use legal means to disenfranchise a stack of ballots.
And you know where they're going to do it?
Rural post offices.
Rural post offices, if you study it, sorry, that was a target in this election.
Rural post office.
Why?
Rural is red.
Typically, yes.
I can't get behind this.
Overrun the city.
Stop the rural post office.
If you're able-bodied, you need to get your ass till cold.
Oh, that's great news.
Uber just won the vote on the prop nice day independent contract.
Nice.
Congratulations to Uber and Lived.
Prop 22.
That's a big deal.
Prop 22 Lived?
Yeah.
So they're going to keep him as independent contractors elsewhere.
Because screw you out, Saba.
Yeah, exactly.
It affects the gig economy.
Everywhere.
Exactly.
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We're doing a whole different one.
On Thursday.
On Thursday.
Listen, just a good thing is the vibe here.
One of the best things that I like on what people were saying that I like the most is that not everybody's on the same page.
It allows the audience to kind of see the discourse taking place, which allows them to make a decision for themselves.
And everybody was voted.
Every candidate was voted tonight.
Somebody here voted for every candidate, except for Jill Stein.
Jill Stein kind of messed the whole thing up.
She wasn't.
She was on the list on some of the states, by the way.
So having said that, having said that, gang, this makes it now, what, seven straight hours that we've been on here.
Is that right?
I haven't used the business for seven hours.
He's a military guy.
Trained, baby.
Train!
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