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Charlie Sheen Opens Up on Denise Richards and Family Struggles | Dr. Oz | S7 | Ep 111 | Full Episode
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Charlie is back.
There were some reports that you sent angry texts, made some comments that were a little alarming for me to hear.
Is he ready to face his truth?
According to Denise, you said, I'm going to kill you and I'm going to kill your mom.
I'm concerned as a father and a husband.
Was it a manic episode or a man on the edge?
It's claimed that you said it.
Coming up next.
What do you want to say to set the record straight about Denise and your kids?
When Charlie Sheen admitted on this show he was willing to confront his inner demons, it felt like a true turning point in a life and career that has been on a roller coaster for the past 30 years.
Today, Charlie Sheen is back.
He gets honest about his mental health and sets the record straight on the recent headlines that have called into question his integrity as a family man and committed father to his children.
Right now we're heading to see Dr. Robert Heizinga.
He's uh he's been my doctor for years.
Although chasing the cure is the top priority for Charlie Sheen.
There is absolutely nothing more important to him than his family.
Which he shared with me in our recent conversation at his home in Los Angeles.
Kids teach us a lot.
Five years from now, when they Google your name.
What do you want them to see?
They're gonna see that uh that that dad's a dad's a true hero.
And helped a lot of people.
They're gonna say that dad overcame some stuff that uh was was deemed insurmountable.
They're gonna say that dad uh dad dad rose above and didn't really care about what people thought about him or or his his methods or uh or his his his uh his beliefs and uh and and that dad dad was the dad that we've always loved.
He just but not long after that conversation, Charlie's family life erupted in controversy.
Rumors swirled that Charlie was evicting his own children from their home.
His ex-wife Denise Richards was in turn suing him for 1.2 million dollars.
Then another bombshell.
Accusation surfaced that she was selling the homeybought for another ex-wife, Brooke Mueller and their twin boys.
With Charlie's reputation as a father on the line, he's back in our studio to set the record straight.
Charlie Sheen is back.
He is ready to set the record straight on the latest headlines and controversies in his life.
There are so many things written about Charlie, and particularly of late, uh regarding his ex-wife Denise Richards, who was suing him for more than a million dollars, saying he sold the house that she and his daughters were living in from out from under them.
So I'm gonna ask these questions in part because many of them arose from habits you had developed.
And I want to give you the chance to respond honestly and honorably to everybody.
So let's start with Denise.
What do you want to say to set the record straight about Denise and your kids and your ability to take care of them?
I tried to implement uh what I call Operation Harmony because I've always felt that that matters involving um uh custody matters involving uh children don't have to be worked out in a in a court, you know.
Um it's just ugly and and and and everybody loses eventually.
Um so I I bought houses in my neighborhood for for Brooke and and the boys, you know, Balmax and uh and for Denise and the girls.
Um I wanted everybody to be in the same neighborhood.
Uh everybody could just visit and stay where they wanted to stay, and it could just be this this uh semi progressive um uh uh setting that I I I thought would lead to responsible co-parenting to just a lot of time with the kids.
Um, and that all that all went bad.
It went bad.
Um and uh it's you know that what what what what's happening?
I'm I'm I'm basically being punished for giving her a house.
It doesn't make any sense.
And then, you know, I don't I don't read a lot of stuff, but I was it was brought to my attention that a lot of this stuff was was released because it was included in some court document, and I just might my my my thought was well, she's she's burning down the bank and then trying to rob it.
That's how I felt.
Um I didn't, you know, I didn't want to read any of that because um I didn't see how it was connected to to anything that was going on.
Um, You know, I'm not I'm not a stingy guy.
I've never I've never I've never gone to court for the child support.
I've never done that.
I've just we came up with a number a long time ago and I had a great job and everybody was living large, and that's not the case right now, but I'm but there's still uh you know, this expectation that to um to keep paying this kind of money, and I just can't, it's at some point you just can't justify it.
You know, especially when you're not when there's no gratitude behind it.
I mean, none.
You know?
I mean, I'd send someone flowers like every hour if I got that kind of dough tax-free, you know.
Um let me shift to the Brooklyn.
Yeah, sure.
Who has expressed concerns that the same thing might happen to her, that you might not take care of her the way you're you know, that you're being accused by Brooke of not taking care of her.
You might say sell uh the house that she's living with the two with your two sons, that uh that she might not be able to live the way that she has been living.
Does she have reason to be concerned?
I I mean I it's it at some point you have to, you know, look at the reality of of of what's there and what's available and what's and what's fair also.
Um it uh I mean geez, I'm gonna have to sell my house.
And I'm not uh if that happens, so what?
I'll I'll get another one someday.
You know, it's not uh I don't I don't know.
I mean it's it's again I I don't you know when there's kids involved and all that I try to keep stuff uh private, but I can't I I did it's when it's out of my hands, you know, when the privacy is is completely uh run roughshot over it's uh I'm I'm I'm you know it's like I feel uh I feel that whole that the whole thing's been hijacked, you know.
Are you good to sell your house?
I don't know yet.
I don't know.
How much are you paying Brooke and Denise?
Uh I think that was published too, wasn't it?
Uh 55,000 a month each, tax-free.
You can all live on that, right?
So it's uh it's a lot.
It's a lot.
And that's been in place for years.
You know, I've never I've never been stingy behind it.
I've never I've never no nobody's ever wanted for something and not not had it, you know, within within reason, obviously.
But uh yeah, it's it's it's uh it's it's it's time to change that too.
You know?
So Charlie, there were some reports that you sent angry texts, made some comments that were a little alarming for me to hear.
So I I actually just jotted them down.
And these are all, you know, I have no proof that these happened.
You can't confirm them or not.
Uh there's one text that was widely reported as being sent uh by you uh to your daughter to Lola.
Said, uh, your dad is a rock star genius, and your mom is a blank, I can't use the word, wart.
Do you think you sent that?
I I don't know.
I mean, I I sure if if I probably did, yeah.
And it was and it's and it's it's regrettable.
Can I quote this other uh again?
Do they get better?
No.
It's just I I I I I ask these questions because I don't know where these came from.
Right.
But I think when we find where they came from, we want to deal with that.
What I would love to see though is is the text that led up to this stuff.
That's what's always omitted.
Always.
Thank you.
Let me go to more concerning.
And this is again something you apparently said verbally.
Okay.
Uh again, according to Denise, you say you caught you said uh you called Lola, I blank pig blank.
I can't use the words again on television.
And this is the part that I'm gonna focus on.
I'm going to kill you and I'm gonna kill your mom.
You didn't never, I would never it's claimed that you said it.
Oh, said it.
Oh.
I mean, is it much better if it I mean it's it's it aren't you alert?
I'm concerned as a father and a husband.
I would never I would never speak about any of my children like that ever.
Ever.
And I would never threaten their mom.
No, I would never, that's that's not who I am.
I wouldn't do that.
If humor me.
Right.
If you did say that, on a voice message or it was overheard by your kids.
In one of your possessed, maybe Royd Rage settings, one of this manic episodes where you've acknowledged you get possessed sometimes.
If you did say that, how would you explain it?
What would you say to your family now?
If I said that.
Um, you gotta own your you know your own crap.
Uh I would apologize and just hope to move forward.
I mean, what else can you do?
What else can you do?
I sat with you in your house with beautiful pictures of kids behind you and heard you talk about your undying love for them.
The desire you have to be a better father.
I almost sensed regret in your voice as you spoke about it.
Yeah.
It's hard to be a better father to children that you never see.
So there's a possibility they may be seeing you right now.
You can look the camera if you want.
What would you say to them?
Uh, Dad loves you and misses you.
Like I always do.
And what would you do to make sure that that never happened again?
Whether it did or not, that the text, the voicemails, the messages, that that wasn't part of the future Charlie Sheen.
Just wouldn't do it.
Just would I mean it's simple math.
I just I I wouldn't let myself get to a place where that is that is the result, you know.
I and I think uh everything I'm doing in my life right now would uh will uh prevent behavior like this.
I've I've I've confidence in that.
Have you had an opportunity to talk to Denise or Brooke?
About the changes you're making.
Uh not really.
No, there's not um there hasn't been a real open dialogue as of late.
Um I mean, I guess they could just tune into your show for the updates, you know.
But don't you want to have that conversation?
I would love to have an open dialogue, but it has to come from both sides.
All right, thank you.
We come back, Charlie's gonna give some advice to a high-profile football player.
I'm gonna ask him why, and a couple more questions you want to hear.
Stay here.
Thank you.
Now, Charlie, a lot of folks sort of surprised that you would reach out to support Johnny Manzell and give him some advice.
You've you probably you haven't been a poster child to good behavior.
Well, what was the purpose of the tweet?
Charlie Sheen's your life coach, it's gone really bad, you know.
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His brutal battle with bipolar disorder.
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Johnny Manzel, the talented but polarizing young quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, is no stranger to controversy.
From outrageous partying and run-ins with the law to sobriety issues and a rehab stick.
Manzel makes headlines seemingly every week.
But it was Charlie Sheen who found himself in hot water after sending the notorious NFL star what he thought was a message of support on Twitter.
We are back with Charlie Sheen.
He recently reached out to football star Johnny Manzel, who reportedly has a history of sobriety problems.
And here's the tweet you sent.
You said, It's time to refocus all your energy on health and football.
And this is the important part to me.
It's never too late to get a fresh start.
Now, Charlie, a lot of folks are sort of surprised that you would reach out to support Johnny Manzel and give him some advice.
You've probably You haven't been a poster child to good behavior.
Sure.
So they were asking, why would Charlie want to give advice?
And what was the purpose of the tweet?
I I saw another uh news story pop up that he was involved in some other conflict or something.
I didn't, you know, again, if I'm if I'm not there, I don't know what happened.
But you know, that's how I that's how I view it.
Um but I just um I talked to him on the phone once, and uh he made a he made a comment about me after uh after a big game when he was in college, and and he's he mentioned that he's one of the I was one of the people he wanted to hang out with.
I was really flattered, you know.
And so we've had sort of this cosmic connection.
Um never met the man.
Um, but again, we did speak on the phone, and he he couldn't have been nicer.
And I just saw he was going through stuff I've gone through.
And um, and I just I I had just reached out because I've hoped that you know others would have reached out to me when I was doing, you know, in some of my uh low points.
Uh so it was just it was just a um I I I think I caught a little bit of heat for it.
Um, and I don't know why.
I just uh it just seemed like the guy needed an needed an attaboy or uh or a heads up, you know.
Well, there's a value of humanistic value of an attaboy, but there's also the ability to offer advice because you've been there.
Right.
Yeah, which is what I, you know, then everybody uh there was a lot of comments about uh Charlie Sheen's your life coach.
It's gone really bad, you know.
Uh so that wasn't my intent.
I just wanted him to know that that somebody out there was was thinking about him and uh possibly help, you know.
I've always found that people who have been uh down and out.
Right.
Have insights that are unique.
I love talking to alcoholics, for example.
Sure.
Who've stopped drinking?
Sure.
Because they've been places I've never been.
They have insights I can't possibly go under.
So what would you tell Johnny Manzel if he was sitting right here and actually needed and wanted and would listen to your advice?
I would tell him to uh to to bring everything back to basics to recommit to whatever got him to this level of of greatness, and he hasn't, you know, we've not seen what this young man is capable of yet as an athlete.
Um, and and so you know, we're a little bit robbed as a as a sports feeling public.
Um and I would just tell them that uh, you know, that it's if if if that has to be, if you have to pursue those things, they're they're they're not going anywhere.
But but but football and and your life could be, you know.
People probably gave you similar advice.
Of course they did.
And it's just sometimes it's it's you know, you you're not in a place where you can hear it.
Or you don't uh you're not you it's you know you're in the wrong audience, you know.
It's it's it's uh in the audience of the wrong person, rather.
Um it's a lot of it has to do with timing and where you're at here, you know.
So you used to use alcohol to cope.
Yeah, much as I suspect Mr. Menzel's doing.
Yet you've you've changed, at least for the last few months.
So how do you cope now with the continuous stresses that exist in everyone's life?
Um it's it's you know, I just know that that uh, you know, if I get loaded, then then the problems are all still gonna be there.
I'm just gonna now just add a hangover and some wreckage to it, you know.
Uh so it's just it's uh it's just taking that, taking that pause, you know, and um, and and and knowing that there's a better version of me to to handle whatever's in front of me than the guy who's you know getting lit up.
So I I I have so much experience doing it that way that this is kind of you know a lot more interesting.
Let's take a little break.
We'll be right back.
Woo!
Right now, I'm heading to see Dr. Modier.
I'm interested to hear what she has to say.
I don't completely understand the entire uh essence of being bipolar.
There is some behavior in in the past that um that when I look back on it, it feels like some otherworldly possession was upon me.
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We're back with Charlie Sheen.
Charlie and I had our first breakthrough on his mental health when I spoke with him at his home.
I asked him about his legendary mood swings.
In retrospect, that might have been the first time Charlie started to take his state of mind as seriously as his HIV.
Do you have a lot of ups and downs?
In your emotional coping with the world.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
Uh.
But they're not as they're not as severe as uh as they used to be.
Charlie Sheen and I first talked about the state of his mental health in my one-on-one interview at his home.
Have you ever thought that maybe you're manic?
That you have these incredibly creative times where you're just everything's alive and you're in technicolor.
And other times when everything's gray and dark.
Yeah, I've I've been I've been uh described as that, been diagnosed as that.
I followed up with Charlie a few weeks later in our studio.
How seriously you've taken that possibility.
That there's a chemical imbalance that almost pushes you to make some of the decisions you make.
It may make you prone to addiction.
I introduced Charlie to Dr. Shalla Modir.
Double board certified in psychiatry and addiction.
I'm gonna ask her to work with me and you.
Okay.
And maybe if you're okay, it'll go beyond the scope of what we're talking about here today.
I'm not opposed to to to investigating that that aspect of myself.
Uh I mean we've come this far.
I might as well just fix it all, right?
Charlie agreed to follow up with Dr. Moder after he returned home to Los Angeles.
Right now I'm heading to see Dr. Modir.
I'm interested to hear what she has to say.
But as the ride progressed, so did Charlie's stress.
I don't completely understand the entire uh essence of being bipolar.
I just always thought of it as being just uh creative and at times psychic.
Perhaps if it's presented a little more uh evenly or a little more understandably, uh it's maybe something I can get my head around.
Um Charlie was clearly uncomfortable facing his demons.
There is some behavior in in the past that um that when I look back on it doesn't it feels like some otherworldly possession was upon me and uh I can't I don't I don't even see myself in those moments.
Um it might be nice to to unlock some of that mystery.
Oh, sorry.
Nice to see you again.
Dr. Moder.
Hi, okay.
Charlie and Dr. Modir remained in treatment for over an hour and a half.
We haven't even finished our assessment yet, so I think you know, creating great relationship is the first step to being able to move forward in a healthy way.
I was really happy to see that Charlie came and he's authentic and honest.
I think we're off to a great start.
What surprised you about the visit?
What did you not expect?
You feel like you're possessed sometimes.
Yeah.
It was a very specific um period of time that did feel very out of body and life should bring him in.
Has the possibility that that you may have a bipolar disorder come up?
Could that explain some of these possessed events?
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We're back with Charlie Sheen.
So, Charlie, what surprised you about the visit with Dr. Modir?
What did you not expect?
Um I didn't expect to be understood that completely that quickly.
I think it helped that her and I had a little bit of time out here.
Um I think it helped that that there was, you know, some groundwork was laid between us.
Um but yeah, that that that's the part that that really uh really just her her immediate insight was really really impressive.
And I and I I I only get smarter hanging out with smarter people.
And that's how I felt around her.
It's the only way you get smarter, you know.
It's true, isn't it?
Yeah.
So I know it's still very early in the process, and probably don't have a firm diagnosis and all, you know, the the time that's needed is important.
Yeah.
We initially had wanted to have Dr. Modir come out and visit like she did the last show.
Right.
Uh and you took a very firm stance.
You did not want her here.
No.
No, nothing against her.
I just think there has to be some portion of this, some part of it that I have to keep somewhat private, you know.
Um a little bit.
Yeah.
Well when I when I heard that.
Right.
Thank you.
I was very proud of you.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, I just I I just felt like we should, there should be some, you know, closed door aspect to it, and I think then that therein will perhaps lie some great uh progress.
Well, it's not yet, but you you you've acknowledged, we've talked about the uh the noise that you feel afflicts you sometimes.
The chaos in your career and your money and your relationships.
How how is working with Dr. Modir?
How is dealing with that media that sometimes afflicts you gonna help?
Um I I I'm just looking for some tools.
I'm looking for some tools, and I think she's got them, you know.
And um, and and and if she if she doesn't, I'm sure she'll guide me to to where they might be, you know.
You you you you say things, you do things historically you have.
Right.
That you don't recognize.
You mentioned earlier the fact that you know you feel like you're possessed sometimes.
Yeah.
But describe that person.
Well, that was that was really that whole post uh two and a half meltdown.
That was a very specific um period of time that did feel very out of body and very uh just detached from all things real, you know.
Um I felt superhuman in during some of that.
Um I felt uh it was a lot of highs and lows.
Um but yeah, it's it's uh physically superhuman?
Yeah, no, I was I was I was taking a lot of um uh testosterone cream, you know, and I think I went too far with it.
Uh so it was kind of a like a borderline, not a right rage, but a royal disengage, you know.
Um yeah, and that's that's the stuff that I do look at and kind of uh cringe a little bit behind, you know?
What did you not like about that person?
Um it I it's I don't I it's a tough question.
Um because there were things about that person that I that that were empowering that that that were vibrant that I felt alive, you know, uh whether or not it was in some suspended state or not.
Um I didn't I did I didn't like the anger.
I didn't uh I'm I'm I I tend to uh be uh victimized by my anger at times, you know.
I I I think we all do.
I think people can harness rage as a drug in certain instances, you know.
So what did you do about him?
How did you get past that?
Uh it all just I just it all just stopped.
And now that you've talked to Dr. Modir and these topics are starting to come up, has the possibility that that you may have a bipolar disorder come up.
Could that explain some of these possessed events?
Well, her her her and I aren't totally there yet, you know.
Um, but I I told her if that's something that we we stumble across together, I'm I'm not gonna pretend like it uh you know it wasn't on the menu, you know.
So you're open to that diagnosis.
Um you're heading in such a positive direction.
It's also very dangerous time.
I have always found for people who have addictive personalities, manic elements to their life.
But maybe it's the right time to self-sabotage.
Do you worry about that at all?
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We're back with Charlie Sheen talking about the steps he's taking to get control of his mental health.
So are you open to a bipolar diagnosis?
Yeah, why not?
Sure.
Good.
It's a big step.
A huge step.
I well, thank you.
I I don't know what that step is, though.
So just to be open to the possibility.
Sure, I'm open to it.
So in the middle of all this craziness, all the press that was breaking on these tweets and the this alleged uh comment you made to your to Lola.
You ran to Cabo, Mexico.
Which I didn't know what that was about when it happened.
I only found that from you because you sent me a quick text.
What what goes on down there?
Why did you decide to make that move?
And and how did that bring you calmness in all this?
It's just uh there's a different frequency down there that I that I that I really dial into down in Mexico.
It's a very it's a it's a different way of life.
It's not uh LA's getting very toxic and very crowded.
And uh I just um like to fish, like to uh sit by the ocean.
Uh it's just uh it's you know, it's where I'm supposed to wind up, perhaps, you know.
So how do you bring the calm you feel on that fishing boat back into your life in LA or wherever you happen to be?
It's funny, uh it's not and we didn't set that question up.
Um I'll always tell everybody I'm everyone I'm with in those moments.
I'll say just keep a little piece of this, and because there's gonna be a time back somewhere else where you're gonna need it.
And we actually just own a piece of it, and it stays with you.
And it helps you.
It helps a lot, yeah.
Yeah.
Through all this, you've been in contact with your parents.
Sure.
What kind of advice are they giving you?
They're fabulous.
They're amazing.
What a what a what a lucky, I mean, wow, to have those two as uh as two of my original and and still my heroes, you know.
Um yeah, it uh they've just they've they've been nothing but supportive, they've been nothing but loving, they've been really uh, you know, they they they they get involved as as much as as they think I want them involved.
They um they they mind their own business when they think they should.
Uh they're very appropriate, very um just really they they they they know how to how to help me in certain situations and and how to manage stuff that's going on around me.
Um there's no judgment.
We you know, that's always been our thing.
There's no parents don't judge, you know, and that's uh, and they say you can always go home and I can I can still go home.
You know.
So you're heading in such a positive direction.
Right.
Uh it's also very dangerous time, I have always found for people who have addictive personalities, manic elements to their life, because now the big idea starts to bloom of maybe maybe I I really can't do this long term.
Maybe it's the right time to self-sabotage.
Do you worry about that at all?
I'm not now.
I'm I I really don't.
Um again, this is exciting because it's it's it's it's fresh again.
It's uh there's I have so many experiences and so many stories from you know, making different decisions, and it's uh there's nothing um it's not nourishing, you know.
And uh, and I'm and I'm actually finding a lot of uh there's some there's some there's some great highs in this whole journey.
Yeah, you know?
Doesn't always have to be and stuffed into a pipe, you know.
What's the good life mean to you?
What is Charlie Sheen's good life?
What is the good life?
Uh I I I I guess uh this feels good.
This feels good.
I mean, what I'm doing right now, you know.
Um, I guess it would just uh, you know, I'm always striving for harmony, whether it's internal or with my family, or or uh, you know, um, just in all parts of my life.
If I can achieve just a sense of of harmony, then then that's that's my version of the good life.
Up next with Charlie's tone of voice says about his health.
The cutting edge stress test Charlie took for me and why it might help you too.
I'll be right back.
Dr. Oz.
The ShareCare phone app that I sent Charlie monitored his stress and reactions.
This is interesting.
I don't need to go to Dr. Moder.
I mean, it's all right here.
Your favorite daytime stars, like you've never seen them before.
Tamar Braxton.
I thought I had a call.
I was thinking cough medicine.
The condition that almost killed her.
Soap star Maurice Bernard.
One night I got violent with my father.
His brutal battle with bipolar disorder.
I don't like to be that person.
I just want to get fixed.
Inside the secret health battles, they've been fighting behind the scenes.
All new eyes.
This I've never talked about.
That's coming up tomorrow.
This is Zal and uh this is Kate.
Both rescued.
They're just the ones I've known all my life.
They're so much more grateful and they uh bring it back.
And they uh you just bond with them uh deeper because they know they know that you saved their life.
Um right, Kate?
Thank you.
So, but they're uh they're a lovely addition to this uh this oasis, you know.
We are back with Charlie Sheen.
Part of coming to terms with HIV is controlling anger and outbursts, and Charlie says those rescue dollars helped them do just that, and they are cute.
Thank you.
Now, in the past, in the past, you have not always handled stress ideally.
Walk me through what would happen three years ago, a year ago, six months ago when you got stressed out.
Hey, just go right to the bottle.
To the bottle.
Yeah, right to yeah, right.
Just write to a drink.
Yeah, it's like that's the quickest fix, you know.
I mean, I'm not joking.
Those are nervous laughs.
Yeah, right.
Um.
Yeah, but I don't have to do that, you know.
I don't have to do that.
Like, well, you don't know.
So what do you do right now?
Well, you still have stresses, we all do.
Well, I think exercise helps.
I think diet helps.
I think uh I think it, you know, positive outlook helps.
I think uh I think there's a lot of ways to to get through the stress without uh having a hammer, you know.
So measuring stress is hard.
We talk about it a lot, but actually putting numbers on it's difficult.
So I wanted to see how Charlie handles stress during important parts of his everyday life.
For most of us, that's what we're on the phone.
So Charlie spends a lot of time on the phone with his friends, but also his doctors, doctors and guys, lawyers, family, business associates.
When you're talking to all these folks, do you think you're calm?
Do you think you're stressed, angry, frustrated?
It depends on uh what they've called with.
It depends on on what the matter in hand is that we're we're discussing.
I think it's I think it's I think it's subject-driven.
Yeah.
So I decided to do a little science experiment with you.
Okay.
And this is a very straightforward technique.
It's an app that our partners at ShareCare have developed.
It analyzes your stress level based on your voice, what your voice is actually sounding like during your phone calls.
Not the words you're using, but the actual tone of your voice.
So let's see how Charlie did while he was on the phone as an example with me.
Dr. Oz?
Hey, how are you, man?
It's been really interesting.
It's been really interesting.
The uh the first uh first meeting we had was uh was pretty mind-blowing.
I think you're gonna be really excited to uh sit out with these guys, you know.
As we continued our chat, the ShareCare phone app that I'd sent Charlie monitored his stress and reactions.
Awesome.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I'll talk to you soon.
Giving Charlie his results after we ended our call.
Charles productive and you seem nervous.
Seem mildly nervous or uncertain of how you may be perceived, although you try to show a relatively positive, pleasing, or friendly.
Learn more.
Attitude.
Gratitude seems to be associated with you wanting to be polite or to be respectful.
Or with being hesitant about the possibility of letting someone down.
I don't need to go to Dr. Modere.
I mean, it's all right here.
So I've got the app here, you know, it's right there.
And I then I read this thing, and I'm wondering, did you really find that the assessment was pretty accurate?
Did you it was very accurate?
It was frighteningly accurate.
Yeah.
Eerily.
Yeah, early.
So you were telling me what I wanted to hear.
There was some people pleasing going on, sure.
But it's also, I mean, I was on camera.
Um, you knew I was using the app.
There were certain parts of it, uh the experiment that were a little bit rigged, you know.
Um less than organic, is what I'm saying.
I mean, I I I get it, and when the app is available for an iPhone, I I see its value.
The reason I wanted to use the app to understand what your voice is telling people was because I wanted you to understand what your voice was saying.
Okay.
And I'm wondering if you tend to people please, sometimes, even when you're not using the app.
Do you you want people to be happy when you talk to them, so therefore you tell them what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear?
Yeah, I think it varies from person to person, and I think it I think uh the it's uh oftentimes dictated by the scenario that that you're in with certain people.
Um Yeah, it's it's uh I think we all people please to a certain extent.
I think we all innately want to be liked, want to be appreciated, want to be heard, want to uh want to matter, you know.
Um I think that that is that comes out in our in our communication, you know.
So one last bit of data, and thank you for being a lab experiment for all of America.
I wanted to look at your sleep.
So when you were on last time, you used the this you know, resmed sleep device, the one I happen to use personally, right?
It gave you a grade of a 60.
Yeah, it's not great.
Not great.
They d minus.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you almost flunked.
Yes.
It's hard to flunk sleep.
But uh you actually were upset by this.
And uh you went and you got another, you know, evening under your belt.
And here's the more recent one that I'm gonna share with everybody.
You got a 75.
Not bad.
Yeah.
Do you feel like your sleep is improving?
Sleep is really not uh, yeah, it's fine.
Sadly, uh I mean, I don't I I can't sleep 10 hours, but uh if I get a solid six or seven, I'm good to go.
Nightmares.
Not really, no.
You sleep through the night usually?
I wake up a couple times, but not uh I don't stay up.
I mean, do you wake up because you got a prostate issue or do you wake up because you're worried about something?
Well, I have to get the bathroom, yeah.
Okay, prostate, good.
It's normal.
Right.
Waking up because you're perseverating on stuff.
No, I don't, I don't do that, no.
Problems will be there in the morning, you know.
And let me just won't be there in the morning.
Let me ask you the most important question.
I ask all the patients I take to the operating room.
Okay.
And it's one I want you to think about.
Okay.
But I ask them to explain why their life is worth saving.
What is it they're going to do with their life that makes it so precious, they've got to fight with every ounce, and so do I to make sure they thrive and survive?
You can answer this right now.
It's best answered without a lot of thought.
Because I matter and I got something to contribute.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
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Good go ahead.
Actually, you know what?
You go first.
Less of a stretch.
Hi, Charlie.
I'm Tricia.
Hi, Tricia.
How are you?
Better seeing you.
My question is, what is the example you want to set for your children?
Like going through all of this?
What what would be the message you give to them, you know, given what you've gone through?
I I would uh hope that they would learn from you know uh the the things I've I've I've screwed up and then also learn from the from the good stuff I've done.
So I would hope that they would just learn from from all of it and and and and not be afraid to uh to ask dad the tough questions, you know.
Go ahead.
Hi, Charlie.
Hi.
Hi, sweetie.
How are you?
Good.
I was just wondering how you've been finding the support from your peers and your friends, and if anyone in particular has surprised you with their support.
It's been nothing but love, seriously.
Even in the streets, um everywhere I go, um, you know, people would will jump out of their car and and run across the street to shake my hand, and you can't you can't put a price tag on that moment, you know.
Um everybody is well-wishing and and and it's really it's really uh it's I was gonna I thought I'd be afraid to to leave my house, and that is the exact opposite of of what's going on, you know.
Pretty cool.
Thank you.
One last question, come on over.
Go ahead.
Hi, Charlie.
Just wanted to know uh what is your relationship with Denise now?
Is it better?
Is it in a good place?
It's not it's not in a great place.
Um but uh again, you know, it it takes it takes both sides to uh to to come to some sense uh somewhere.
I I um I'd I'd I'd be willing to to to reach out.
You know, I think it's important.
It's gotta start somewhere.
It's gotta start somewhere.
And it's for the kids, you know.
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen.
Remember, happy healthy starts at home.
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