Owen Shroyer dissects Trump's chaotic Iran war flip-flops, exposing a $60 billion conflict that undermines MAGA allies while Netanyahu's PR moves mask IDF atrocities. The report details Corey Mills' alleged ties to 9/3 conspirators despite Trump's endorsement, Zach Rell's victory dismissing January 6 convictions, and Kash Patel's lawsuit against The Atlantic. Shroyer argues the war serves neocon oil interests, critiques the Supreme Court's shadow docket, and predicts a Democratic dynasty in Virginia, concluding that current policies prioritize globalist agendas over American citizens. [Automatically generated summary]
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday, April 20th, 2026.
Here's what's coming up on the Owen Report today.
Trio.
We've got three of them from President Trump today, three posts.
There are probably going to be more before we are off the air today.
He seems to be, as we might say, crashing out.
Dare we say it?
Is President Trump crashing out?
We're going to read the three truth social posts from President Trump today.
Then we're going to look at some of the latest developments as far as the claims that he's making are concerned.
And of course, this will tie into the war in Iran.
He's talking a lot about the war in Iran today.
MAGA, whatever it is now, whatever is left of it now, MAGA is flip flopping.
They're flip flopping on the war.
It was never a war.
Then it was a 47 year old war.
Then the war was over.
Then it wasn't over.
Then Trump won the war.
But then there was never a war.
But now the war is back on.
But Israel had nothing to do with the war.
It's a flip flopping.
So, MAGA's politics, MAGA's mindset is one thing and one thing only.
Whatever Trump says.
So, from one day, it's different to the next.
Whatever Trump says, that's what we support.
That's MAGA.
And, well, we can get more into the inside out infighting of MAGA on the issues where they're losing.
But it's this weird psychological affair that they have with President Trump.
As long as President Trump says it's great, as long as President Trump affirms whatever it is you think you believe at the time, then it's all good.
It doesn't matter if you're constantly flip flopping around like a carp out of water.
As long as Trump says it, it's okay.
So we're going to look at that.
And then again, you look at the stack of the war news today, very big stack of news.
Is it going well?
Is it not?
I think that we continue to see this trend of our allies around the world.
They're just not sure.
They're just not sure whether they can trust Trump, whether they can trust the United States of America, or whether it's time to start doing business elsewhere.
So we got all of that coming up today.
Kash Patel is suing the Atlantic for claims that they have made.
Very odd stuff going on there.
The Supreme Court is hit with another leak.
They want an investigation into this leak.
Don't hold your breath.
But we will look at that.
Now, there's going to be a big election in Virginia tomorrow.
We'll tell you why that's so big.
And if the current trend, if the current state of events of everything going to the left, everything going to the Democrats continues, well, it's not good.
It's not good, folks.
So, we'll tell you what to expect in Virginia tomorrow.
We got some economic news today as well.
Yeah, we got a little slop.
There's a little slop at the end of the transmission today.
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I got a couple of questions.
I forgot to tell you that in the opening.
At 4 30, we're going to be joined by Jill Savage.
And she was one of the first people to break the Corey Mills story, I think over a year ago, actually.
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So, Jill Savage, who's been kind of on the ground breaking that news, she's going to be joining us in the second hour.
And then to kick off the third hour, we're going to get an update on the news that broke last week with the January 6th defendants basically having their convictions removed.
And so, there's kind of a new level to that legal fight.
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In the third hour, who's been really at the ground level of these developments, personally impacted by these developments, his legal team involved in these fights.
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So, a little subject focused news coming up.
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The deal that we are making with Iran will be far better than the JCPOA, commonly referred to as the Iran nuclear deal, penned by Barack Hussein Obama and sleepy Joe Biden.
One of the worst deals ever made, having to do with the security of our country.
You know, it's funny, though.
It's funny.
Most people would have said the same thing.
But let me just carry on here for a second, and then I'll make the statement.
It was a guaranteed road to a nuclear weapon.
Well, you said you destroyed that road and guaranteed they wouldn't have a nuclear weapon, but now we're at war with them.
So you lied, which will not and cannot happen with the deal we're working on.
They actually gave $1.7 billion in green cash.
I don't know what green is doing in quotes.
I don't know.
Is that an energy joke?
I don't know.
Loaded into a Boeing 757 and flown to Iran for Iranian leadership to spend any way they saw fit.
He emptied out all of the cash from banks in D.C., Virginia, and Maryland.
Those bankers said they've never seen anything like it before.
Well, you're starting to get to this point with Trump now where you can do a tale of the tape and you can ask which deal was actually worse Barack Obama's deal or whatever the deal that Trump is trying to work right now.
Because.
Here's the actual tale of the tape now.
Trump complains about the $1.7 billion that Obama gave Iran.
Okay.
Now, claiming the whole deal was that Iran would not get a nuclear weapon.
Now, I guess all of this hinges on whether you trust Iran or not.
Whether you do or whether you don't, let's just look at the deals.
Obama's deal was basically okay, they're not going to get the nuclear weapon.
I guess Trump's administration is coming in here and saying, we don't trust that deal, so we're going to blow the hell out of you.
But of course, the Trump and his administration have been, they've been complete liars on this as well.
Well, you guys told us that you obliterated was the actual word.
And you reemphasized this a dozen times that you obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities and they could no longer develop a nuke, only for you guys to turn around and say, okay, they were about to get a nuke tomorrow.
So you've now lied about the whole thing.
As far as the actual nuclear weapon is concerned, this administration has now lied about the entire thing.
Now, as far as Iran's actual.
Actions with, without a nuclear weapon?
Iran's actions.
Who are you going to say Iran was more of a pest during whose administration?
Obama's or Trump's?
Let's just ask and answer the question.
Iran has been more of a pest to the United States during Obama's presidency or during Trump's presidency?
So, Iran, you might say, has been more of a pest for the Trump presidency.
So I guess that's the price we paid to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.
But that's ironic because that is the logic that now they're selling us to support what Trump is doing.
So when Obama paid them $1.7 billion and Iran was not a thorn in our side when Obama was president, only for the same neocons and You know, Middle East hawks that are never going to be pleased.
It's never going to be a good situation over there.
So, aside from that group of people, Iran was mostly a non issue.
There were issues that we've had ongoing with Iran for 47 years.
These things happened during Obama, obviously, the sniper deal, all of this stuff.
So, Obama comes in, negotiates, they're going to say $1.7 billion.
That was to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.
And that was worth it.
We're being told it's worth it now.
This whole war is worth it.
You paying more for oil is worth it.
But let's look at the bottom line.
$1.7 billion.
How much has this war cost?
How much has Trump's Iran war cost?
How about $60 billion?
How about $60 billion?
And how about 13 American lives, at least that we know of?
So when this whole deal is done, Iran never had a nuke.
Now, whether you trust that they wanted to build one or not, that's a different story.
But Iran never had a nuke.
Iran has been a thorn in the side, whether it was Obama or whether it was Trump.
You might argue less now during Obama, but I suppose that's debatable.
But Obama, that Obama, $1.7 billion.
Well, how about Trump?
$60 billion.
So now Trump has spent more than, I mean, what is the number here?
30 times?
Trump has now spent 30 times as much money as Obama did to try to stop Iran from getting a nuke.
And in the process, he's killed thousands of people.
We've had dozens of Americans killed.
The oil markets are going crazy.
So, who's really dealt with Iran better at this point?
It's an honest question.
That is a fair question.
Who has done a better job dealing with Iran, Obama or Trump?
Oh, that'll get them going.
That will get them going.
So, he goes on to rip the deal.
He says, if a deal happens under Trump, it will guarantee peace, security, and safety, not only for Israel.
Oh, but it's not about Israel, but for Europe, America, and everywhere else.
Really, because it's been the exact opposite since he started this war.
It will be something that the entire world will be proud of instead of the years of embarrassment and humiliation we have been forced to suffer due to the incompetent and cowardly leadership.
But now we include you, Mr. President.
Now you are included.
And that's the big problem of where we're at with this Trump administration, with this version of Donald Trump.
Now you're to the point where you can't trust anything, he says.
And you're a fool if you do, by the way, whether you trust President Trump or not.
Let's say you trust President Trump.
That's fine.
If you trust what Trump is telling you, you're an idiot.
Because let me explain this to those out there that still trust Trump that don't understand what I'm saying.
Trump intentionally lies, in case you haven't noticed.
Trump intentionally lies and deceives and manipulates and trolls.
And says all types of garbage and fake stuff just to keep everyone off balance, including you, including the enemies, including who he's negotiating with, including his own administration.
Trump intentionally lies all the time.
Now, you, so if you trust Trump, then you have to argue he's lying for a good reason.
That's the only, that is the only way you can sit here and have this conversation.
There is no doubt at this point if you take Trump, if you take Trump's word at face value, you're an idiot, you're a fool.
If you want to say, hey, whatever Trump is doing, he's, you know, whatever he's saying and doing, all of this stuff, it doesn't make sense.
But behind the scenes, I trust him.
I think he's got a plan.
I think he's trying to help America.
So, okay, that logic I'm okay with.
But if you actually take Trump at his word with what he says these days, you're an idiot.
And you don't even have, honestly, it's like you don't even have two IQ points to rub together.
Or maybe you just don't have a memory if you don't understand how he's been lying to you for months now on this deal.
He's been lying to you for a year on this deal.
He does that intentionally.
That's not accidental.
He lies intentionally.
It's to keep everyone off balance.
So he's just out here just lying again, and it's outrageous.
And the reason why MAGA is dead and the reason why his approval numbers are so bad is because here we are dealing with more lies about the Middle East, dealing with more war in the Middle East.
And what are we doing for our country?
The average American is still not in a better place than they were a year ago.
Or two years ago, or five years ago.
And that's the problem.
But I don't know, guys.
We're getting to a point where I wouldn't suggest.
I mean, it's like you can't assume Trump is the exact opposite of what he's saying is true, but you obviously can't assume that what he's saying is true.
So that's why now his word just is meaningless.
That's why whatever Trump says now is just totally meaningless.
So he posts these essays now, and it's just obnoxious.
It's just like white noise, it's just like nails on a chalkboard.
But I think it's a fair question.
At this point, now Trump isn't done, so Trump will have the last laugh.
At this point, I think it's a fair question to ask.
Who did a better job negotiating with Iran, Obama or Trump?
I think it's debatable right now, guys.
But Trump still has time to fix this.
Now, this is the final one from Trump a couple hours ago.
The Democrats are doing everything possible to hurt the very strong position we are in with respect to Iran.
Now, how would that even be possible?
So, this is to me, Trump admitting we're not in a good position with Iran and he's just blaming everybody but himself.
And now he's talking about World War I. He's talking about World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War.
I thought this wasn't a war, the Iraq War, on and on and on.
I thought this wasn't a war.
So for months, you've been telling us this isn't a war.
Now you're comparing it to every other major war.
Boy, that happened fast, didn't it?
That reality hit fast, huh?
So it's not a war.
The war will be done soon.
By the way, we have a compilation of Trump.
Since March 7th, saying the war was almost over.
So he's been lying about that.
He just goes on.
It's just obnoxious.
I read the fake news saying that I'm under pressure to make a deal.
This is not true.
I'm under no pressure whatsoever, although it will all happen relatively quickly.
He's been saying all of that for more than a month.
Time is not my adversary, really, because what?
You're not in office?
How long are you in office for?
How many people are dying?
What about the cost of this every day?
Do you consider any of this stuff?
The only thing that matters is that we finally, after 47 years, there's that 47 year propaganda again, straighten out the mess that other presidents let happen because they didn't have the courage or foresight to do what they have done with respect to Iran.
No, the mess seems to be now, Mr. President.
The mess seems to be now in your administration.
That's the mess.
The Middle East has been a mess, in case you haven't noticed.
Newsflash.
The Middle East has been a mess.
Jews and Muslims have turned the Middle East into a mess for as long as any of us have been alive.
That has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats or Obama or Trump or any of it.
This has been going on forever, thousands of years.
But you're going to be the one to figure it out.
And in the painful process of this long shot, this moonshot you're taking, We're all suffering, and it's a bigger mess than it's ever been to any of us.
And you've lied to us throughout the process.
We're in it, and it will be done right.
And we won't let the weak and pathetic Democrats, traitors all, who for years have been talking about the dangers of Iran and that something has to be done.
But now, since I'm the one doing it, belittle the accomplishments of our military and the Trump administration.
No.
I mean, they're always going to do that, Mr. President.
You set them up, you put the ball on the tee for them.
You threw the alley oop for them.
You passed the puck into the middle of the ice for them to slap shot past the goalie.
You set yourself up for this failure.
But it wasn't Israel.
You told us today.
You did this all on your own.
So we can't blame Netanyahu.
We can't blame the Epstein files, the Epstein clients, the donor clash, the special interest.
It's all you, Mr. President.
You did this.
You fucked this up.
Nope, not the donors, not Netanyahu, not Israel, not the foreign interests, not the special interests, not the Democrats, not the fake news.
You fucked this up.
And you made that perfectly clear this morning when you made sure that you owned this entire disaster.
So, congratulations.
You did it.
You and you alone, according to yourself.
But it's all being perfectly executed.
He talks about Venezuela, says it's just like Venezuela, just a bigger, more complex operation.
So, in other words, it's not like Venezuela.
He says the result will be the same.
I mean, this is outrageous.
You didn't capture any Iranian leaders, you've killed them all.
This is just outrageous from Trump, guys.
It's just unbelievable how bad this guy is.
Trump says he built the greatest military our country has ever seen, including adding Space Force in my second term.
I am properly and judiciously using our military to solve problems left to us by others of far less understanding and competence.
Last I heard, they were considering Potomac Park in Washington, D.C., some donor should pay for this.
Just like with the ballroom.
Yeah, Trump said he was going to take all the monuments and statues, and then they were going to do it in maybe South Dakota or North Dakota, or they were going to do it at the entry to Mount Rushmore.
Yeah, he didn't mean any of it.
He made it up.
He made it up.
He does this all the time if you've been following Trump for a while.
Trump also told the donors, he did a, I think it was called a Golden Wall.
Trump told his donors in 2016, I know this because I, I, I, I donated to get on this wall.
He said he was going to build a big wall of his donors.
This is when it was, you know, Trump.
This is when it was us versus the world, essentially.
So supporting Trump at this time was like, you know, considered dangerous, renegade.
And it was a certain threshold.
I think it was like 100 bucks or 200 bucks.
And if he donated this, he was going to put up a golden wall.
It was either Trump Tower or Mar-a-Lago.
And he was going to build a big donor wall and he was going to etch every single person's name into it that exceeded the 100 or 200 bucks.
Yeah, he never did it.
He never did.
He talked about this monument park.
He never did it.
He talks around a bunch of stuff and he just never does it.
So once you realize that, you get a better idea.
You start to understand what kind of scams he runs and how he just says stuff and doesn't even mean it.
And that's really what it is.
I don't even know if I would call it a scam because a scam requires some level of competence, some level of like there's meaningful pursuit of something.
Trump just makes stuff up.
Trump just literally says something in the moment and then forgets it the next day.
So it's a little different than a scam.
But you know what?
You can probably call it a scam, too.
Now, Netanyahu forced to weigh in to an issue that we saw over the weekend with the IDF bashing a crucifix, bashing Jesus' head in on a crucifix.
Netanyahu makes a statement today.
As the Jewish state, Israel cherishes and upholds the Jewish values of tolerance and mutual respect.
Between Jews and worshipers of all faith.
That's hilarious.
Really?
Jews are respectful towards Muslims?
Jews are tolerant of Muslims?
Boy, that's a new one.
I feel like if that was true, we'd have peace in the Middle East if that was true.
So I'm just going to go ahead and chalk that one up to a big, fat, stinking lie.
All religions flourish in our land, and we view members of all faiths as equals in building our society and region.
I'd like to hear him specifically say that about Muslims.
Yesterday, like the overwhelming majority of Israelis, I was stunned and saddened to learn that an IDF soldier damaged a Catholic religious icon in southern Lebanon.
I condemn the act in the strongest terms.
Military authorities are conducting a criminal probe of the matter and will take appropriately harsh disciplinary action against the offender.
What he'll get, like a day as punishment or something?
While Christians are being slaughtered in Syria and Lebanon by Muslims, they're also being slaughtered by Jews, but you left that part out.
The Christian population in Israel thrives, unlike elsewhere in the Middle East.
That's not true.
Christians thrive in many places in the Middle East, actually.
So you're just lying again, saying it's the only place where Christians can worship.
Actually, Christians are being forced out of their lands right now that are bordering Israel.
So this is basically just an entire lie.
Now, what's interesting is so the IDF has been caught committing all types of atrocities.
I mean, killing kids, killing women, raping people.
There was this one recently, they were bragging about this.
Some of the Lebanese that they forced out, many of them were Christian, by the way.
You can see because in their house they have crosses and stuff.
But the IDF would go in, they cleared out these lands with bombs.
So they do their air bombing and then they move in on the ground.
After they've killed everything, after they've done the military demolition and killed everything that has a beating heart, then the IDF soldiers actually go on ground and they were going into these houses in southern Lebanon.
And some of them are farmers, whatever.
And they were just going in and just raiding their fridges, raiding their pantries.
They're doing like going in and taking everything out of their garden and cooking it and celebrating how they just stole this house and stole this food.
The only good news for Trump is he's still on the field.
That's pretty much it.
But when it comes to dealing with Iran, Trump is, Obama is eating Trump's lunch.
Obama is looking like a genius compared to Trump.
When it comes to Iran.
So I don't really know how you can work your way around that, guys.
I don't know how you can work your way around the facts.
I don't know how you can work your way around the tail of the tape.
We're still at war with Iran.
More than a dozen Americans have died.
We're still there.
Oil is up.
It's cost us almost $60 billion.
And unfortunately, If you're looking at this from an Obama versus Trump perspective, Obama dealt with the Iranians better than Trump.
Man, that's brutal.
That is just brutal.
So, all we can hope for is that Trump can somehow redeem this, but I don't really know how at this point.
I don't really know what is the potential outcome that even makes this good.
I'm just curious.
And I love this game that they play.
They keep changing the narrative.
It's not a regime change war.
Well, it is a regime change war.
It's all about getting rid of their nuclear capabilities.
Okay, we destroyed their nuclear capabilities, but actually, we're back to destroy them more.
So none of it even makes sense.
And then they come out and they say, We've had a clear agenda in Iran.
We have been very specific and clear about our agenda in Iran.
Really?
Because nobody really seems to know what it is.
So, what is it?
So, this is a genuine question.
I am genuinely curious.
What is there to win in Israel?
What is there to win in Iran?
What is there to win for the United States of America in the Middle East?
I would actually like an answer on that.
Because right now, they just say, oh, we're fighting for peace, or we're with our ally, or they're an enemy of America, or they want to hurt us.
It's all bullshit.
So let's see if anybody in this administration can cut the bullshit.
Let's see if Trump, maybe.
Let's pray for Trump.
Maybe one day Trump can stop shitting out of his mouth and tell us what is the actual goal here.
We destroyed their nuclear capabilities.
We're still at war.
We've done regime change.
We're still at war.
What are we doing?
I thought we had control of the straight.
We don't.
We're still at war.
I don't know.
So cut the bullshit.
And let's actually hear from this White House, from Caroline Levitt, from old, her lips go bang, bang, boom, boom, whatever that is.
Let's hear it.
Tell me, what is there to win in the Middle East?
What is there for us to win?
Why are we still there?
Even Trump used to understand how this whole thing was outrageous.
Even Trump used to talk about how this has all been a big waste of time, waste of money, waste of lives.
And now he's got us right back in there.
So I just want to hear it.
Okay, you've lied to us every step of the way.
What is the goal?
What is the agenda?
Can anybody explain it?
Anybody.
I'd love to hear it.
The only fathomable excuse that I can even comprehend is that this is somehow a larger geopolitical fight against China, which you connect to the oil sales.
So then I'm saying, so, okay, fine.
So what's the goal there?
So you lead me down this China route.
Okay, well, what are we doing there?
What's the goal with China?
And tell me, if China is really the aim here, if China is really the target here, I'm going to tell you why that logic doesn't add up, by the way.
If China was really the logic here, then why wouldn't Trump be cutting a deal with Iran to stop them from selling their oil to China?
Trump could be looking for a peace deal with Iran.
Trump could be using the leverage of, apparently, Trump controls Israel.
So, Trump could be using the leverage of him controlling Israel.
Of course, we all know that's the complete opposite of fact, but I'm just telling you why the logic of China didn't add up here.
Trump could be making a peace deal with Iran and say, Hey, Iran, let's work out a deal with you.
I can get Israel on its knees.
This whole world could put Israel begging on its knees for its life.
So, why don't I make a deal with you?
We can stop the Israelis from killing tens of thousands of innocent people like it's a ritual for them.
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We don't hear much about what's going on between Russia and Ukraine, but a big one today Ukrainian drone attack on Russia's two OSP port kills one.
A Ukrainian drone attack on Russia's Black Sea port of Tuops sparked a fire and killed at least one person, Russian officials said today, only hours after the blaze was extinguished following a similar attack on April 16th.
So they finally got rid of the fire, the damage caused from the first drone attack, and then they got hit again.
And the Significance of this refinery, Ukraine hits Russia's only Black Sea refinery export hub.
This strike is part of an expanding Ukrainian campaign targeting Russia's energy export infrastructure, particularly facilities tied to maritime oil shipments.
You know what is so insane about this?
Guys, I'm trying to decide what to put first here.
You know, what is the cart and what is the horse?
But I guess I would say this before I get into the specifics.
This is the realization.
And, you know, our big hiccup, unfortunately, now, this is just true.
Our big hiccup, the big glitch, the big rock in the machine that's just destroying everything right now.
As far as growth, evolution, moving to the next level, whatever it is.
The biggest glitch in this entire process right now is the fact that MAGA is now the most retarded group politically in America.
I'm sorry to say.
And I'm going to make sense of it with this story.
But it's like this is what they can't comprehend.
They cannot comprehend that Trump is part of the problem.
They cannot get it through their head that Trump is part of the problem.
Now, you can still support Trump.
You can still cheer for Trump.
You can still hope that Trump does some of the stuff he said he would.
But.
MAGA used to be like the thought leaders.
MAGA used to be like the independent, free thinking, free speech, you know, anti establishment.
This was like the movement that was breaking down all these barriers, shattering all of these doors, windows, everything, getting to the next level.
It was all about, okay, we understand.
MAGA used to understand more than any other political movement how corrupt it was, how you just commit to just destroying the political corruption, the establishment.
And now MAGA is so brainwashed that now they're the thing holding it back.
So it's like MAGA used to be the thing leading the charge.
Now MAGA is the anchor that is keeping us down, keeping us back.
What does it have to do with this story?
See, once you realize that none of this adds up, you can't help but land on the fact that this is happening during Trump's presidency.
And he's not just allowing this to happen, he's part of it.
So, how is this Ukraine story the perfect example?
And by the way, Trump was right about this in his first administration.
Notice how he doesn't say anything about it now.
Ukraine is stopping Russia from exporting energy to Europe.
Now, remember, it was likely the CIA, it was likely during the Biden years.
Oh, what is that?
What was that?
What is the woman's name, guys?
Her name is skipping me right now.
She ended up leaving the Biden administration, but she was the woman that everybody was blaming for destroying the pipeline.
What was that bitch's name?
She's been around forever.
Can't believe I can't think of her name.
Well, Newland, Victoria Newland.
So, Europe relies on Russian energy.
Europe relies on that.
So, when we blew up Nord Stream 2, that hurt Europe.
These are supposedly our allies.
These are supposedly the NATO countries.
Ukraine, not a NATO country.
Keep in mind, Ukraine is not in NATO.
So, here we are, our NATO allies, and we're going to war for Ukraine, who's not a NATO ally, and we're Sabotaging our own allies' energy supply in this war against Russia.
Say, well, that doesn't make any sense.
Of course, it doesn't make sense because you still don't understand how entirely corrupted the political system is, including Trump.
That's the point.
And now it's happening again.
Notice they have said nothing.
Have you seen anything about this oil refinery getting hit twice by Ukraine?
This hurts Europe.
That oil is going to Europe.
And by the way, Trump green lit it.
Trump told him, he said, All right, well, look, you guys need the energy, so get it from Iran, get it from Russia, whatever.
So, okay, probably a good thing for Trump to do that.
It goes against the entire purpose of the war, but that's because the entire purpose is bullshit.
So, this is what I'm trying to say.
If it doesn't add up, you know it's corrupt.
So, here's Ukraine again attacking Russia's oil refinery.
Russia is providing energy to our allies in Europe, and we're just going to ignore it.
We're just going to pretend that it's not going on.
Ukraine, not a NATO country.
We have spent almost $400 billion on this war.
And it's still going.
Now we're $60 billion in a war with Iran, and we can't even control the oil.
Europe is going to be pushed into the arms of China, pushed into the arms of Russia.
Why would we let Ukraine hurt our own allies, hurt our NATO allies in Europe?
Why would we let this happen?
And nobody talks about it.
It's just, let's just turn a blind eye to Ukraine and to Russia now.
Just completely forget about it.
Forget about our investment.
Forget about the hundreds of billions.
Forget about that now Europe is impacted by this and has been.
Let's just go into Iran.
Forget about all of that now.
And I guess the hope is what?
For the big oil companies, the big oil donor companies, that the world is going to start buying oil from them.
By the way, that's not going to help your bottom line.
That's not going to impact America's life at all.
It's not going to impact your gas prices.
It's not going to impact your way of living.
It's not going to impact the CPI.
Nothing.
It won't help you at all.
So, what is going on?
None of it adds up, so you know it's corrupt.
So, what is going on?
What is the plan here?
And again, I just look at MAGA because, in a way, like MAGA was our weapon against the establishment.
MAGA was our coalition, our political club to bash back against the establishment.
And MAGA is dead now.
Now MAGA is an establishment weapon bashing us.
Now MAGA is a neocon globalist weapon bashing us.
So it used to be MAGA was the club in our hand.
We were bashing the neocons, we were bashing the globalists, we were bashing the establishment.
Now they've taken the club and now they're bashing us.
So when you see none of this stuff adds up, none of it, and you'll see MAGA jumping through hoops and doing mental gymnastics and everything else trying to make sense of it, it doesn't add up.
It's all corrupt, folks.
It's all corrupt.
And the people that are running this, they don't give a damn.
You know why?
Because they don't care how expensive gas is, they don't care how expensive beef is, they don't care how expensive energy costs are, grocery bills are.
They don't give a damn.
It doesn't affect them.
They live in a world so removed from you that we can't even comprehend it.
And now Trump is their weapon against you, by the way.
Again, it's like everything's been reversed.
Trump used to be our weapon against them.
Now Trump is their weapon against us.
And some of us have realized it.
Some of us are now privy to this.
Some of us are now calling us out.
And the very movement that we created called MAGA now they're an enemy against us.
Now they're coming for us.
And you see, they're threatening to arrest us, they're threatening to sue us, they're threatening to imprison us.
They're now the woke left.
So, when you try to add up all of the stuff that's going on, whether it's the war in Iran, whether it's the war in Ukraine, and you slowly but surely start to click, yeah, none of this makes any sense.
Yeah, if it doesn't add up, you know it's corrupt.
And it is corrupt.
And the truth is that we have no idea what's going on.
I don't even know how many people in D.C. know what's going on, to be honest.
I think Trump might know more than most, maybe more than anybody, but I don't even think they know.
I don't think anybody knows.
I think Iran knows their stuff.
I think Russia knows their stuff.
I think Trump knows his stuff.
I think DC knows whatever DC is either allowed to know or has to know.
And then we're just left here as this slop machine just keeps putting slop out into the news for us to feed on.
And if you don't buy it, which why would you?
They act like you're crazy.
So it's all this big gaslighting routine now.
But there was a big protest today.
Veterans protest the war in Iran on Capitol Hill in Washington.
So, this happened today.
A bunch of photos here from Reuters, as you can see.
So, a bunch of very diverse crowd here young, old, black, white, Asian, white, Mexican, you name it.
A very diverse group of veterans protesting this war.
This is from Greg Stoker.
I don't know.
I'm guessing this guy is probably running as a Democrat.
He's nonpartisan.
He's running for Texas 31, but this isn't about him.
So begins the largest veteran and military family act of civil disobedience since the Iraq war began, occupying the Canning Building Rotunda, protesting yet another forever war with Iran, which includes the genocide in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing in the south of Lebanon, and the potential ground operation in Cuba.
Whatever violence we do overseas always, always comes back home.
And every war fought by this government is a war on the working class, which is you.
We're here until arrest or Speaker Mike Johnson comes out to answer for the dead and meets our demands.
If you're an active duty service member and do not wish to join the fifth U.S. generation fighting in a senseless, self destructive, moral war for the rich, for the parasite class, we will stand with you.
There is a way out.
Info below.
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We are veterans and military families demanding an end to the war on Iran.
We demand that Congress not authorize one cent more to this war.
We demand that Donald Trump bring back all U.S. military personnel and stop these illegal and immoral attacks on the Iranian people.
We are holding red tulips, a symbol of sacrifice and martyrdom in Iranian culture.
to pay tribute to the thousands of Marines who have been killed as a result of this war.
We will now hold a flag holding ceremony to call attention to the U.S. service members who have already been killed and will be killed until this war ends.
It used to be that if you were anti Trump, they would let you protest in the Capitol.
I've documented this, filmed this, I've pushed back against this.
It's very well known.
In the first Trump administration, you could do anti Trump protests at the Capitol, they would let you do it.
If you did something for Trump, if you were a pro Trump demonstrator of any sort, like myself, You were not allowed to do it.
I was arrested.
So it used to be that only anti Trump demonstrations could happen at the Capitol.
Those veterans today got shut down and arrested.
So, I mean, you could probably call that an anti Trump demonstration.
They're against the war.
They don't really make it about Trump, they make it about the war.
So, okay.
Shut down.
Shut down.
So now, technically, I don't like the way they interpret how they handle these things at the Capitol.
I think it's all First Amendment protected.
But, you know, anything that, and actually, I was the only one that didn't violate this, in my opinion.
So the way it reads is that any sort of organized demonstration, so like that, like if there's a group that organizes to do a demonstration, then that's when it's technically considered illegal and you can be arrested.
I didn't do that.
I was one person with a piece of paper and a piece of tape over my mouth.
No organization, no big protest, just one single person, piece of tape over my mouth.
They arrested me.
I supported Trump.
They arrested me in the exact same spot the day before a group of 40 anti Trump protesters were able to do their demonstration.
So, again, folks, this goes back to 2020.
If you were following my work, following my show, you know what I'm talking about.
I got arrested.
I spent 36 hours in a D.C. jail.
Eventually, the judge tossed that, he just threw the case out.
Thank you, Judge.
But no, now they arrest you.
Now they arrest anti Trump protesters at the Capitol.
They used to allow that stuff.
Now they just shut it down.
So to me, that's like, hey, we're all, Trump is the deep state now.
Maybe you think that's going a little far, yet there's my evidence.
There's my evidence.
Now, I do have more geopolitical news, but let's go to this real quick.
Now, let's just pretend for a second that Iran or any Muslims truly posed a threat to this country.
Let's just pretend for a second that any of these countries really posed a threat to us.
Or even a nuclear threat to us.
Let's just pretend for one second any of that's true.
Of course, we know these are all lies.
These are all lies that they tell us to do Israel's bidding in the Middle East, to commit absolute atrocities and evil in the Middle East.
They tell us these lies, but let's just assume they're true.
So, Randy Fine, a sinning member of US Congress, just advocated for nuking the entire Muslim world.
Now, folks, if the Muslim world really wanted to kill us just because we exist, if the Muslim world really had.
Nuclear weapons aimed at us.
Do you think this would be when they'd probably do it?
Wouldn't that be the one?
Didn't Randy Fine just openly declare nuclear war with the entire Muslim world on behalf of America?
So, if there was truly a threat, if there was really a circumstance and these conditions really existed, wouldn't that be the moment that they'd probably decide, you know what, now's the time?
I'm just curious because it seems like that would be the logic.
That's the logic that we supposedly use.
So, wouldn't they then use the same logic if they had the same weapons?
Or is the entire thing a lie?
Of course, the entire thing is a lie.
And Randy Fine is a fat, bloodlusting, corrupt member of Congress, a warmonger who has a different interest, a foreign interest in mind when he says this stuff.
Randy Fine just called for nuking the entire Muslim world, guys.
He just said that as a sitting American congressman.
How does that make you feel?
How does that sit with you?
Seems like that's kind of dangerous rhetoric if you believe the claims that Randy makes.
Seems like that's kind of some dangerous rhetoric if you believe what we're told.
About the Muslim world and how they want to kill us, then that seems like that would be a bad idea to say that.
And yet there he is calling for it.
What about if you're a Christian?
How does that sit with you?
If you're a Christian and that's your representation in Florida and he just called for nuking the entire Muslim world, how would that make you feel?
There you go.
All right.
We are about to be joined by Jill Savage.
And if you guys have been following this story, it's kind of been lingering for a while with Corey Mills.
And Jill has really been at the ground level of it since the beginning.
But Jill, we've had some interesting developments.
Now, I will pull up some headlines for some point of reference for our audience today that maybe hasn't been following this.
There have been some developments today, as I'm sure you're aware.
For people that haven't been following this news story, Kind of just give them a little bit of an introduction on the whole Corey Mills story, how he became controversial, what was going on in DC that you've been covering for a while, and then we'll kind of get people up to speed on what's developing today.
Yeah, so we have been covering this story for quite some time.
So it's actually really exciting, Owen, to be here on the show with you that the rest of the country is now taking an interest in trying to figure out who the heck is this Corey Mills guy?
Well, he's a congressman, a Republican out of Florida's 7th district.
He's over there in like the Daytona Beach area.
And I didn't know who Corey Mills was until after October 7th, when Corey Mills was, you know, the hero that everybody painted him out to be when he was out there helping Americans get out of Israel after October 7th.
And that was the very first time that I had ever heard him.
Now, the first time that I met him was after Hurricane Helene.
And he was out there in Western North Carolina helping people.
He was out there for a couple of days.
And I spent the entire day with Corey Mills, and he came out.
You know, across as very charismatic, you know, obviously willing to help people.
And I thought, okay, wow, like this is interesting, just that there's somebody in Congress who actually cares.
A few weeks later, I was part of a team.
I was emceeing a dinner that he was getting an award at, right?
So I had several points of communication with Corey where all of this was leading to him being a great guy.
Now, there's one thing that kind of led to Corey's downfall.
On the helicopter ride back at the end of the night, When we were going back to the airport after we were done with Hurricane Helene, we were going to fly back to Dallas to go do our shows the next day.
Corey Mills on the helicopter, there were seven people, including Corey and myself.
I was the only female there.
Corey said that he was very single.
There was absolutely no one in his life, and he was very lonely.
So then, oh, and we jump ahead in this story to February 19th, last year, 2025, where his live in DC girlfriend called the cops for an alleged assault on Corey.
And she said that, you know, Corey was her significant other for over a year.
And I thought, man, you know, this guy's claiming to be a super Christian.
And nobody was asking the congressman, like, hey, tell us about your personal life the very first day that we meet you.
So Corey did end up asking me out like two months later.
We never went on a date, which is like the blessing in disguise that I could go through and figure out, okay, who is this guy?
Right.
So I saw a comment online and somebody said, well, if you think this is interesting, you should really look at his marriage certificate.
So it was in March that things really started to get interesting with Corey Mills because that's when I found out that the officiant, Of his wedding for his second marriage, which was back in 2014.
It was the summer of 2014.
And the officiant of his wedding was Muhammad al Hanouti.
And I saw that.
And it said a mom on the wedding certificate.
And my brain just wouldn't let it go.
I said, you know what?
I'm sure it's fine.
I'm sure it's fine.
But let me just Google the guy's name.
And I look up Muhammad al Hanouti.
And the very first story that I see is the headline is Major US Muslim Brotherhood Figure Dies.
Muhammad al Hanouti is an unindicted co conspirator of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, supposedly raised $6 million for Hamas.
And was the Mufti of what is now better known as the Al Qaeda Mosque there in Falls Church, Virginia.
And so we go through and we're doing the story, and Corey ends up on a phone call with one of our other reporters at the Blaze at the time, Peter Giedel.
And it's a 50 minute recorded phone call where Corey admits that Mohammed Al Hanouti actually married him.
But he said, Oh, I don't know the guy.
My mother in law just wanted an Iraqi to marry us.
Owen, if we're trying to look for like an Iraqi, if this is the level that we're looking for, Muhammad Al Hanouti was the Mufti at the time, right?
Which is levels above an imam.
So you're not just looking for an Iraqi, right?
Like there's a reason that they're bringing somebody else out, not just the regular imam of the Al Qaeda mosque, as if that wouldn't have been bad enough for this story.
So then we continue on because I see videos where some of his former co workers at Dying Corps, a private contractor company.
So Corey went through and he claimed, and we have the resume that he turned into Dying Corps.
We have that written in a story that's in my Twitter thread right now.
But Corey claimed to be an Army Ranger at the time.
He was not an Army Ranger.
He was not a sniper.
He did not go to any of those classes that he said he did.
And he was, in fact, a medic in the Army for just over four years that he spent there.
So all these guys then were like, you know, Corey.
He was claiming to be an army ranger, he was claiming to be all these things, and then they had you know, uh, an issue with the state department where you know, Blackwater killed some people that they shouldn't have.
Uh, and then they went through the state department and said, Okay, everybody has to resubmit your paperwork, we have to make sure that you are who you say you are.
So the deadline was coming and going, right?
This his senior advisor there for uh, was named Jesse Parks.
We talked to Jesse on the phone, he's quoted in our story, and Jesse says, I'm the one who is going to fire him now, Corey.
Ended up putting his radio, his firearm, and everything on his bunk and walked out of the U.S. consulate in the middle of the night in Herbal, Iraq.
That is the story that everybody that is there says.
And they say that they have him on video doing this.
Corey says, Oh, no, no, no.
I didn't leave in the middle of the night.
I had two weeks left on my contract.
And sorry that I didn't go say goodbye to everyone when I was there.
I had a girlfriend that was in the area at the time and I wanted to leave with her, right?
So Corey has an excuse for everything.
But we see a pattern of lies with Corey.
And, you know, there's questions about the bronze star that he has.
A lot of the guys that were involved in those incidents, where Corey claims five different instances of valor for this bronze star, one of them specifically says, Corey Mills absolutely never saved my life, right?
Yeah, so Laura Loomer has definitely not commented on this story.
If you go through James Blair's Wikipedia page, it will tell you that he was.
Part of running two Florida campaigns, one being Anna Paulina Luna, the other being Corey Mills.
So, if you see Roger Stone's tweet today, I think says a lot where he says that Corey Mills had a conversation with President Trump and said that there was no restraining order placed on him by his Florida girlfriend, right?
That's what Roger is saying today.
So, I don't know if that's the administration trying to get out of it, just knowing with what's probably going to be taking place here shortly.
So, there's that.
How do we get to the restraining order in the first place?
Well, I just told you about the Florida, the DC girlfriend that had the alleged assault last February 19th.
That's when Corey's world really started to unravel because that's when the Florida girlfriend who lived with him at the time, as well, overlapping stories, by the way.
Yes, this is all the same time frame.
That's when she learned that there was yet another girlfriend.
So she breaks up with Corey and tries to ask him 11 times, please stop contacting me.
Let me go on with my life.
And this is where we had the sex stortion allegations against Corey Mills, is what we called it in our article that we published last summer, where Corey Mills threatened Lindsey Langston, his girlfriend, for, you know, since 2021.
And he said, basically, if you go out and you have any boyfriends in the future, I'm going to send them the videos of us.
Oh, yes, Lindsey, I still have them, referring to videos that were of sexual nature, right?
So Lindsey Langston is a young girl, you know, she's in her 20s.
She doesn't know what to do.
She's like, somebody help me.
I have a.
Rich, powerful congressman who happens to be an international arms dealer who is threatening to basically ruin my life.
So she goes to court and she is able to get a restraining order on Corey.
So, your point of once a liar, always a liar.
I think it's important for your audience to know that during the hearing, Corey Mills was on the stand under oath and Lindsey's lawyer at the time.
Had documents in her hand, and she was going out there saying, Corey, has any divorce filings, has anybody filed for divorce in your marriage yet?
And Corey said, no, nobody has filed yet.
She was holding the divorce papers in her hand at the time.
She walks up to Corey, hands him the papers on stand, and said, I'm going to ask you to read these papers now.
And you're going to signify that you're done reading them by looking up, and we'll continue the questioning.
Corey read the papers, and she said, I'm going to remind you now that you're under oath.
Would you like to change your answer?
And he said, Yeah, actually, the divorce files, they have been filed.
So this is what we're dealing with.
When you see that Corey is willing to go through in light, he makes you prove every time that what you're saying is true and what he's saying is false.
Because Corey, it's just part of his personality that if he says it, you believe it's true.
And guess what, guys?
It's worked for so long for Corey Mills that this is why we've gotten to this point where, you know, it's us, it's you, it's a couple, we can count on a handful of journalists and outlets.
That have reported on Corey Mills, that have done stories on him.
But as long as he's out there still claiming, and he will continue to do so, right?
There was a News Nation video of him walking down the halls of Congress, you know, just a couple of days ago.
And he said, Oh, I shouldn't be lumped in with all of these people Eric Swalwell, Tony Gonzalez.
I'm not like them.
First of all, I'm not married.
He's been not married for like a month or two now.
Like, this is nothing to brag about, Corey.
And then he's like, And I didn't have any interns.
Okay, no, but you did have a live in DC girlfriend with an alleged assault.
You had a Florida girlfriend who you actually have a restraining order.
She got a restraining order against you.
You had two more girlfriends, I believe, at the same time, and you were still technically married at that time because of the business of an international arms dealership.
And they're trying, you know, that, oh, and that's a long, hefty divorce there.
You can't just unwind a business like that when you have, I believe, $66 million in debt for the business that you have to cut through.
You know, and I'm going to get to these headlines next, but you know how a lot of these relationships, when you're in a position of power, end up becoming just transactional, right?
It's like, was it ever about romance?
I don't know.
With Corey Mills, I'll ask you a leaning question because I was hearing this from other people too.
I don't know how deep your guys' investigation ended up going to this, but you know, apartments, billionaire apartments, parties late into the night.
Uh, these are the stuff that I heard about.
Maybe I knew a couple of ladies that may have ended up there once or twice or heard a thing or two in a different room.
Um, have you guys been following up on that at all?
Oh, I've heard about the late night loud parties, Owen.
Uh, I we definitely have heard about it, but you know, at some point in time, we heard that a different outlet was going to be covering that, so we didn't do as deep of a dive into that part.
We were like, listen, we can go out there, we can cover the you how do.
You know, he converted to Islam.
Let me state that right now.
You know, he says that he didn't.
I will tell you right now and your audience that I have spoken to eight people who Corey Mills himself told that he converted to Islam.
He will deny it to this day.
He will say, I've always been a Christian.
But you and I know that there's not a mufti amongst us that is going to marry a Christian man or a Muslim woman.
So I know that Pam Bondi lived in the same building as Corey at the time.
And so you would think that if Corey is getting in any trouble, you're going to call your friends, especially if they happen to be close by.
So, Corey, as it says in there, that's a Washington Post article that came out over the weekend, which detailed all of the instances from the body cam footage.
Of the February 19th alleged assault.
And it's interesting to note because we tried to FOIA that body cam footage last summer and we were denied it.
They did not give that to us.
So I think it's interesting right now, Owen, the timing of everything that is happening.
When you have a Washington Post story come out on Saturday, you have Roger Stone going after Corey Mills on his radio show yesterday.
Roger's continuing to tweet about Corey Mills.
He's making jokes about how short Corey is on his Twitter this afternoon.
Like there's a lot of layers that are happening.
And I don't feel Like this is just out of nowhere, right?
Because this story has been around for a year.
So, the Washington Post now going after body cam footage from something that happened February 19th, 2025.
You know, that's interesting to note.
If we get to the Nancy Mace part of your question, well, Nancy Mace is the first person in Congress that went after Corey Mills.
A lot of people, so we put out these stories starting in May of last summer.
I can just say, I know that Nancy Mace did a deep dive on Corey Mills last summer because while we did all that reporting over the summer, it was actually like, you know, I think it was sometime in August or September of last year when she had the vote to censure Ilhan Omar, right?
And that came up, and Corey Mills was one of the four Republicans that voted against it.
And guess what?
It failed by one vote.
And so that's when everybody went, wait a minute.
We thought that Corey Mills was one of us.
Like, what the heck is happening here?
Why is he voting?
Not to censor Ilhan Omar.
What's going on here?
So that's actually when our story really started making waves.
The first round was everybody just trying to figure out what the heck is happening right now.
So from there, you had a domino effect of censure come up against Corey Mills himself, which then was referred to the House Ethics Committee to try and table it.
And they would take it basically behind scenes and basically, oh, nothing to see here.
But at that point in time, we already had Nancy Mace.
Anna Paulina Luna was on the House floor calling Corey Mills out.
Lauren Boebert was like cheering Anna Paulina Luna on on the floor.
And so it was just a small group of Republicans at that time that really were noticing who Corey was and all of the crazy stories because we haven't even gotten into a lot of the financial disclosures for Corey Mills that the House Ethics Committee is actually looking into.
They started doing that a year ago last March.
And it's just, you know, how did you pay for this?
And well, you didn't actually.
Disclose this about your business, right?
And there's so many details just within the house finance and house ethics and everything that's going on with Corey, his business, and all of the money that's surrounding everything.
Anna Paulina Luna today says, after three fourths of Congress voted to block the release of the Congressional Slush Fund files, this was before 2017, mind you.
She says that she and the House Oversight voted to subpoena the records.
We should receive them this week, and I will post the link here once they give it to us.
So that's just kind of a larger, you know, we're just going to be doing a larger dive, let's say, into what goes on in the shadows of Washington, D.C. Where do you think this is all going?
The big thing that shocked me is like, okay, another sex scandal in D.C., another scandalous.
Person gets in a compromising situation, caught lying.
It's like, okay, it all comes kind of no pun intended.
But then when I see that Mills got the MAGA endorsement, and there's still people on the Republican side of the aisle that are giving him the side eye, like, you know, I don't want you here much longer, gets the MAGA endorsement.
The normal voices that, you know, anytime they see a Muslim in the room, they're going to start screaming bloody murder.
They're all silent on this.
What do you think is, I mean, what is the real story here?
I can't make Any sense of it, Jill.
I guess that's where I'm at.
This story makes no sense to me.
How he gets the MAGA endorsement is like the final straw that broke the camel's back.
So, I think the difference that we see here this week versus when all of this stuff was happening in like August or September of last year, well, Corey Mills, yet he wasn't going out and doing town halls.
He did that at the end of January where his team made people in the district sign up with their emails and they had to verify their address to make sure that you were in the district.
They had signs everywhere.
Saying you can't record any of this.
Well, guess what?
Corey had people protesting outside and hecklers inside.
So the actual campaigning for Corey Mills wasn't going that well.
And then you see in the latest article that I saw for the fundraising is that the Democrat that is running against Corey Mills is outraising him five to one right now.
So what's the difference?
Well, the money, I think, is the difference.
I think that they see the writing on the wall right now is that Corey Mills.
Is not going to be reelected at this point.
Do you keep him?
Do you throw everything that you have at keeping this guy who we've been talking about for the last 20 minutes of all the different things with the, you know, the Islamic stuff, the stolen valor, all of the women?
All right, guys, into the third hour of today's Owen Report.
I don't think it's going to be the last, though, because we still got a ton of news and we got a guest yet, plus all of your super chats.
I think we're going to be needing a little overtime on a Monday, which is good.
You know, you got the hockey playoffs going on right now, a lot of overtime hockey.
Why not go into overtime on an April holiday, as some may consider it?
All right, joining me now, Zach Rell.
And Zach, big news for yourself personally, obviously, last week, but big news for Many January 6th defendants, I know this has been a long struggle for you.
I know this has been a long struggle for others whose lives were going to be completely thrown away by the last administration.
Let me explain this phenomenon that you're trying to put into words, but I've been through this so much.
I think I can actually explain it.
If I had a dollar for every time my lawyers told me I've never seen anything like this, I'd have at least $20, I think, probably about $20.
I could maybe buy a Big Mac or something like that.
No, the point is though, whenever you get into these political situations, which used to be really rare in America, right?
Political persecution used to be.
Very rare thing in this country.
Now it's very common.
You've got two political persecuted victims right here, if you will, or victors, depending on how you look at it.
But what would happen is every time I get into these politicized persecutions against myself, and you end up in the courtroom or going through the legal battle, whatever it is, I've got a handful of them.
You always come from a place of your understanding of the situation, and you approach your lawyer with this, and they always kind of, again, it's not a knock on them.
They're just going off of the legal status, they're just going off of the legal situation and what normally goes on in these cases.
And so you try to explain it's like, no, you don't understand.
This is political persecution.
Like, this isn't a normal case.
A politically persecuted case.
This is, they're coming to get me.
And there's like, they still have this faith that no, the system isn't that corrupt.
They still have this faith that maybe if a prosecutor or an attorney is that corrupt, the judge, like the whole court case won't be that corrupt.
So they approach these things like you're going to get a shot at a fair trial, right?
It's like, that's the mindset is, hey, we're approaching this.
We're going to get a fair shot.
We're going to be okay.
And then they get through the process and they realize, no, the whole thing was rigged the entire time.
So I think that that's what you're trying to explain here.
That's what happened every time with my legal team we'd get through it and they'd say, Owen, I've never seen anything like this before in my life.
And I say, I know, I told you this was political persecution.
So I think that's the situation.
It's not a knock on the lawyers, they're just so shocked when they go through the process how corrupt it actually is.
Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned, you know, you talked to your legal team.
You know, I know you actually had the same attorney I did at one point.
You had Norm Pattis, and he was a brilliant, brilliant attorney.
I mean, I watched this man in trial, and this guy, like, when a witness would get on the stand, like, I've never seen anybody slay a witness as bad as he did.
Like, he was brilliant.
He would do it elegantly, intelligently, and he just, it was every single person that went up there.
Dreaded, you know, having to talk to Norm Pattis.
But, you know, he was no different when it came down to it.
Like, he was always talking about, like, I've never seen anything like this.
And, you know, like, I don't see this flying.
And, like, I have no problem with Norm Pattis.
He's a great man.
But, you know, I did go separate, you know, I did go my separate ways with him because I wanted to pursue this Jeremy Bertino recanning evidence thing.
And, you know, like all the attorneys, it was not one single one.
As I talked to many, many, many, many attorneys, and they all said the same thing.
There's like, you don't have anything here, like that, and and uh, you know, you have to have more on file or this or that.
And like I said, they're looking at it like an extraordinarily narrow legal lens and not taking in consideration the political angle, as you were mentioning.
And I knew that there was a huge political angle in this, and I knew that was something that had to be pursued, but you know, so and when I when I when I started pushing this, I didn't just I didn't just file motions.
I would file motions and then I would try to get media published in the fact that I put a motion out and we would pump this stuff out on social media.
We were trying to get pressure on the government to do the right thing in this whole thing because it was horrible from the beginning, from the get go.
We should have never gone through what we went through from the start.
And the fact that the star witness recanted his testimony and made all these explosive allegations, in my heart, I felt like it was something I needed to pursue.
And I did.
And I'm glad I did because that was literally the reason why this whole entire thing, it pushed the needle forward that caused this whole thing to actually break down.
So without rambling on too much, I can go on all day on what happened recently, but I don't want to bore the audience.
But basically, I went pro se.
I decided to pursue the star witness.
Our star witness recanted his testimony in August.
And he said that the FBI and the DOJ coerced him to lie and forced him to go on the witness stand and put false statements out and everything.
So that way they could force this narrative, this seditious conspiracy narrative.
And he was the only person.
On our entire trial that caused us to be convicted of seditious conspiracy.
There wasn't an actual plot.
There wasn't an actual plan.
There was no evidence of conspiracy or anything like that.
They threatened this man, they forced him to lie, and they put him on the witness stand and they used him as their actual only source for why we should have been convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is interesting because they wanted to tie the Proud Boys to President Trump.
That's the only reason why we were convicted of suspicious conspiracy.
It wasn't because we actually did it or anything.
But anyway, August, he recast his testimony.
The lawyers weren't really feeling, you know, pursuing it.
So I was like, you know what?
Screw it.
I'm going to do it myself.
I'm going to do what's unpopular and I'm going to go, I'm going to file these motions myself.
It took a while to actually get it on record.
But this past weekend, finally, finally, after months and months and months of fighting with the courts and everything, they get this on record.
I get this motion on record.
That you know, we need to have this case dismissed because the star witness recanted his testimony and yada yada yada.
Uh, well, the government, um, the government basically tries to say that you know, they try to kick the can down the road.
They say that you know, we need to uh, we need to delay this litigation of this whole Jeremy Bertino thing until after all these defendants get their appeal done.
And uh, well, that directly contradicts you know, contradicted what I was trying to do in the appeals court in general.
Like, I, I, like.
Just before that, I filed a motion to delay the appeal brief, which is called an abeyance.
And the reason I did that is because I knew that they were going to try and pull these games.
They don't want their misconduct coming out on record.
And that's what it comes down to.
And I was ruthless about pursuing this matter.
And I was using the appeals court to help back me up on it.
And the appeals court was about to rule in my favor.
To ensure that this information ends up coming out.
And the moment the government replied and the appeals court suspended the appeal brief, it became like literally evident that they were going to like side with me.
So they end up, three days later, the government decides that they're going to dismiss the entire case with prejudice.
And I mean, I hope you're tracking there.
When you talk this legal stuff, it gets a little redundant.
And confusing, but like it was, it was, it was literally like a step by step process that I basically boxed the government into a corner and where they only had two choices either let this misconduct come out or dismiss the case.
So essentially, removing these convictions or specifically getting rid of the seditious conspiracy, which they wanted to, you know, get that was their plan to bring Trump down or making him ineligible to run, that didn't stick.
So, in other words, they looked at this case now and said, This is only going to make us look bad.
I mean, really, what it comes down to, this whole case was a fraud from the beginning.
I mean, like, back in, I mean, let me see, but way back in 2023, when they, for example, arrested Enrique Tario, for example, I mean, it was such a stretch for them to arrest him.
You know, it was insane because the guy wasn't even there.
And not only that, like, the star witness who recanted against, you know, recanted his testimony, He a lot of people don't know that he wasn't in Jan, he wasn't down there on January 6 either.
So, like, the amount of lies that these people have told over time have just been coming back to bite them at every single angle.
I mean, you can only tell a lie so many times before, like, before the truth starts coming out against it.
And this lie was so huge, there were so many ramifications about uh behind it.
And, like, I said, like, if you there, there, there was a uh, there was a Jamie Raskin just recently filed an opposition to our dismissal.
And, like, you read this thing, and this is like, this sums up the entire trial.
This guy says, oh, it was the worst thing that happened on January at the Capitol since the War of 1812.
And it's just like, are you kidding me, dude?
Like, it's a blatant lie.
Like, there has been bombings at the Capitol since 1812.
I mean, there's been the Capitol riot that happened.
There's so many things that have happened at the Capitol since 1812.
Yeah, we know they lie and exaggerate about January 6th.
So I want to, here's what I want to know that is hopefully coming next.
And I'll tell you, I don't even know if I want to say this, but I'll just go ahead.
I mean, I lost faith.
It's tough because I talk to a lot of January 6ers, like I'm sure you do.
And, you know, it's like we're in a tough situation.
Like I said before, I'm nowhere near.
You know, I got a couple months and five years probation.
So I was like, that was a slap on the wrist compared to what a lot of other guys had to go through.
I mean, the legal bills, everything, it all sucked.
But when you talk about the actual time of your life that you lost, you can't get back, it's a different story.
And so, you know, I kind of looked at it like I lost faith in the administration or as far as justice for January 6ers were concerned.
And I think part of the decision process for me, which was a lot different for others as well.
And this isn't to say, You know, that the January 6ers aren't, you know, good, honorable people.
But it's just to say, I realized that if I didn't totally cut from my hope that there would be justice for January 6ers, like if I didn't make that mental, philosophical, psychological cut, I wouldn't be able to do my job.
I wouldn't be able to come on here and do neutral coverage and do fair coverage of the administration because I'd constantly be thinking, is this going to hurt my chances of justice for January 6?
Is this going to hurt my chances that I might get righted?
By the Trump administration for everything that was wrongly done to me.
So I had to kind of just let go of that and not think about it because I felt that I wouldn't be able to do my job if I was thinking about it.
I wouldn't be able to do this show.
Okay, so now this is happening.
All right.
Well, what really needs to be done?
So I'm thinking about it again.
What really needs to be done, in my opinion, is first of all, January 6ers need restitution.
They have to get restitution, whether that's for the jail time or whether that's for the legal bills.
I mean, we're talking restitution that's going to be a lot of money.
I mean, let's just be honest.
We're talking a lot of money here.
The legal bills alone are going to be worth millions of dollars, not to mention some of these men that spent years in jail, spent years.
I got a couple months.
I'd like restitution.
Of course I would.
Yeah, I'd like restitution for my hundreds of thousands of legal bills and my time away.
And I'm probably on the lower scale of things, but hell yeah, I'd like restitution.
But even that shouldn't do it.
The people that set us up, the people that lied, the people that wanted there to be an insurrection that day, now they need to be investigated.
The other side of the aisle that wanted all of this to happen to set up President Trump and set up his supporters, they're the ones that need to be investigated.
Is there any motion?
Is there any movement in that direction?
Do you think that there's still a chance that we could get?
Full justice here, or do we feel like okay, we're kind of reaching the end of the line?
Well, when it comes to, like I said, the justice is in the eye of the beholder, really.
It really depends on what you're expecting.
You mentioned the restitution.
That's in the process.
Me and my co defendants, Joe Biggs, Enrique Tario, Dominic Pizzola, and Ethan Nordin, we're basically doing a $100 million lawsuit against the government right now over all this.
And this dismissal is really going to help, honestly, because beforehand, when we filed this motion, Enrique Tario was pardoned, but the rest of us were still.
Convicted, we were just commuted.
So, well, now that this happens, I mean, at the very bare minimum, we're looking at wrongful imprisonment for four years.
I spent close to four years in prison for something I didn't do, you know, and it's absolutely insane to actually say that.
But with these vacating these charges, it opens up the door to so many more things.
And it also helps all the other J6s as well, because it sets a precedent for what should be done.
And it's something President Trump has been saying from day one.
You know, when he started speaking out against this, was that you know, we were political prisoners, all of us, you know, and even you, even you don't have to discredit yourself because you didn't spend four years, but you should have never been in prison.
You were a journalist, and you know what I mean?
Like, the fact that they came after you and even charged you with anything at all was insanity.
Like, you didn't go to the building or anything, you know, and it just highlights the absolute assault on our liberties that the government under Joe Biden did against Americans, and it needs to be rectified and it needs to be solved, whether it's you know, through restitution or, or, or locking people up.
I don't know.
I'll take the restitution.
I doubt they're going to get anybody arrested because of the whole Biden auto pen thing.
I know a lot of these people were pardoned.
So, I honestly, with that, I don't want to set the precedent of removing pardons for people because then what happens with Democrats who get back in power one day?
Are they going to throw all the J 6ers back in prison again?
Let's just, for the sake of time today, I did enough of that Friday anyway.
I think I pretty much went 5 for 5 on that Friday.
So I don't need to step back up into the batter's box and swing at that deal.
But let's just say it for the sake of today's news.
MAGA was 0 for 3.
You guys did a giant victory lap running around, waving your flags, rubbing it in everybody's face, telling everybody to eat crow and smashing egg on their head.
You guys were 0 for 3.
You literally got every single thing wrong.
And, you know, just for the sake of it, you guys all attacked me when I posted that video on Friday.
You guys all attacked me.
And I said, Really?
Israel's going to stop bombing Lebanon?
Good luck.
Really?
Iran's going to let us go in there and take their nuclear material?
And not a single apology, not a single person in MAGA that was running victory laps last Friday has said, oops, I got it wrong.
Not a single person has paused and said, oh, we got bad information.
Oh, this one didn't happen.
Why, MAGA?
You guys love running around when you think you've won, and then it turns out you lost and you got nothing to say, huh?
And I'm being nice to you guys today because I know a little bit more about what's going on in these MAGA communities.
But I'm going to be nice to you guys today.
And I'm not going to let you know on where I may have my listening devices, where I may have my eyes and ears in your guys' little cult activities, but I do.
I know what you guys are talking about all weekend and today.
I know.
I know you're scared.
I know you're all scared.
I know this whole bravado, confidence, arrogant routine that you have on social media.
I know you're all scared.
I know you're all panicked.
I know you're all freaking out.
And I know it really hit you this weekend after Friday.
So I know you guys are all in your little cult circles panicking about all of this.
You're all looking at Laura Loomer thinking, holy shit, she's back crap crazy.
How do we separate her from us?
You can't unless you leave.
So that's just my free advice because I know you guys are panicked and I can't blame you after last Friday's must be one of the most embarrassing moments of your political careers.
You got them all wrong.
So, okay.
Now, getting to the news.
So, this is what Trump said.
Now, tell me, guys, what does this sound like to you?
What does it sound like Trump is saying to you here when he's talking about getting the nuclear material in Iran?
Thought I'd save it for this crowd because you're a little bit out there, you know, a little bit that this process is well underway, and we found many very interesting documents.
I must say, and the first releases will begin very, very soon, so you can go out and see if that phenomena is correct.
Emirati officials speak with Treasury Secretary Scott Besant about accessing dollars if the Middle East conflict drags on.
So, all these Gulf nation states are getting crushed by this.
They were promised this wouldn't happen.
Trump was supposed to be their big ally.
He stabbed them all in the back.
And this is why I think, guys, I'm telling you, I don't think we really know.
I don't think we really know.
I think that the Gulf nation states are kind of in the balance.
I think a lot of these foreign countries, a lot of these foreign leaders, including the Gulf nation states, I think they had a relationship with Trump.
I think they liked Trump.
I think at one point they trusted Trump.
Maybe they still do, but now I think they're looking at this situation a lot differently.
Now, they are not willing yet to turn on Trump.
They're not willing yet to think that Trump has betrayed them.
They're still kind of holding out hope that Trump is going to get a deal done, or they still trust Trump enough to shut their mouth about the disaster that this war is.
But I see the Gulf nation states now sitting back, whatever status we had with them a year ago.
I see the Gulf nation states, I think that status is gone.
I don't think the Gulf nation states feel like we have their best interests at all.
And now that this Iran war disaster has hurt them the most, I think that they're looking at Trump and they're saying, Hey, bro, hey, we're getting crushed here.
What can you do for us?
I mean, we're supposed to be friends.
What, you know, hey, can we get some money at least?
Like, what can we get anything out of this deal?
And of course, they're going to get nothing.
They're just going to continue to get their tourism economy collapsed.
They're going to continue to watch Trump prioritize everything and anything Israel needs.
They're going to get ignored.
And this war in Iran has not been good so far.
And so they're being negatively impacted.
And they're saying, well, what gives?
This wasn't supposed to be the deal, Trump.
We were all supposed to be making money.
Everything was supposed to be cheap.
We were supposed to be peacetime.
Now it's wartime.
Everything's more expensive, and we're getting crushed.
So, I think the Gulf nation states are kind of just sitting back right now, and they don't really trust anybody.
They're not really sure where they need to go in their own interests.
But here's the one trend that remains Trump is stabbing all of our potential allies or all of our partners in the back.
He's betraying all their trust, and he's going to end up isolated on an island with Netanyahu, which is the last place you want to be.
You know what ends up happening to everyone that ends up on the plot of land with Israel, right?
You know what happens to literally all of them?
No, let's not go there.
So I think it's just more of a sign that Trump has just isolated himself and our country in the international community now because he's stood with Israel and everything.
He doesn't even stand in America's interests anymore.
Trump just stands on Israel's interest, and the whole world sees it now.
The only goons, the only goobers that don't see it is MAGA.
That's it, they're the only ones.
The entire world sees it now.
And eventually, you guys will see it too.
And maybe Laura Loomer will become so toxic and disgusting that that might be your final straw.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Or maybe you guys want to be in bed with that.
Hungary must arrest Netanyahu if he visits, Magyar says.
And this is the recently elected Magyar.
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, wanted by the International Criminal Court, is due to visit.
Hungary later this year.
Hungary's prime minister elect, Peter Magyar, said Monday that his country must take Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu into custody if he enters Hungarian territory while wanted by the ICC.
So I have a feeling Netanyahu will be canceling his visit to Hungary.
And look at the trend here, folks.
Orban, who was once very popular in Hungary, Orban, who is once considered a very Populist, nationalist leader in Hungary made a friend in Netanyahu and lost an election.
Same thing.
Argentinian President Millay, nationalist, populist, gets in bed with Netanyahu, pull ratings tanked.
Trump, nationalist, populist, gets in bed with Netanyahu, pull ratings tanked.
New Prime Minister of Japan, Nitschke, or whatever her name is, populist, nationalist, gets elected, gets in bed with Netanyahu, approval ratings tanked.
Every single country, folks.
MAGA is the only group dumb.
MAGA is now the dumbest group on the planet, the only one that can't see what's going on here.
The only one.
Yikes.
Maybe they'll have Kash Patel's back until Trump tells them not to.
FBI Director Kash Patel sues The Atlantic for $250 million over a story on alleged drinking and absences.
You may have seen this story.
FBI Director Kash Patel filed a defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic on Monday, saying a recent story about his alleged frequent drinking and absences included false and obviously fabricated claims.
Here's the original headline.
This is from April 17th.
The FBI Director is MIA.
Kash Patel has alarmed colleagues with episodes of excessive drinking and unexplained absences.
Well, I can't say, I don't know.
I don't know who knows about this, who doesn't know about this.
All I can do is go off of what we do know, what is publicly available, which is, I would say, the following information.
In some of the biggest events since Kash Patel has been the FBI director, he is either not at the big press conference or he has very little or nothing at all to offer as far as information is concerned.
That's a little concerning.
So, maybe that will give you an idea if there's any relevance or reality to this story or not.
Maybe not.
But here's the one where I think he's screwed, quite frankly.
I think he's toast.
He is the one who went to France, or excuse me, went to Italy on the private jet and was pounding bruskies with the hockey team.
U.S. to bar World Cup attendees tied to anti Semitism abroad, Envoy says.
The United States will ban individuals accused of promoting anti Semitism from attending the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
U.S. anti Semitism envoy Rabbi Yehuda Kaplun announced, saying, coming to this country is a privilege, not a right.
And you used to have a right to free speech, but not anymore in this country.
And Rabbi Yehuda Kaplun brags about how they use the internet and they use AI data and SEO data to track down anti Semites and ban you from the country.
And now you can't attend the World Cup.
And the obvious question is, well, what is considered anti Semitic?
And of course, we all know the answer to that.
If you don't support Israel, if you don't believe Israel is the most important thing in the world, if you don't think the IDF is the most moral military in the world, basically, if you don't get on your knees and worship Israel and you don't accept that you are a second class citizen to Israel, then you're an anti Semite.
So let's just see how this one goes.
Let's see if how they ban people from going to the World Cup if they're guilty of quote unquote anti Semitism.
So that is a crime now, folks.
So that is a speech crime.
This is really the first speech crime we've ever seen.
This is really the first international speech crime that has ever existed.
Think about it.
There have been free speech issues in this country.
There have obviously been political censorship issues in this country.
There have been some small incidents of political persecution for speech.
I happen to be one of those incidents.
I went to prison for speech.
Even in my case, the Genesis wasn't necessarily something I said.
The Genesis was me being there on January 6th, and then they just used the things I said to throw me in jail.
So I don't even know if you could make the case that my free speech imprisonment was the moment where they declared speech to be criminal.
This is it.
This is the big moment.
This is the big reveal.
Now they have done it.
There is now speech that is considered illegal.
There is now an unspoken But agreed upon international law that anti Semitic speech is illegal, and you're not allowed to come into the United States of America if you engage in anti Semitic speech.
You'll be deported from the country if you engage in anti Semitic speech.
If you're caught as an American engaging in anti Semitic speech, there's likely going to be a punishment inflicted upon you.
This is the first ever time where the entire world, the international community, can look at something and say, is speech illegal?
There is only one time where certain speech gets punished.
Only one instance, and that is anti Semitism.
And we all know why that is.
And it has nothing to do with anti Semitism.
It has nothing to do with racial bigotry or hatred or anything like that.
It has everything to do with Israel's interests and Israel's agenda and anybody who might stand in the way.
That's all this has to do with.
And now they're telling you if you don't support Israel's agenda, if you don't support Israel's interest and Israel's agenda in the Middle East, you're an anti Semite, you're banned from this country.
So, where do we live then?
Where do we live?
If anti Semitic speech is now illegal in this country, then what country do you live in?
Do you still live in the United States of America?
I wonder if any of this will ever make it to the Supreme Court.
Where they've been hit by another leak.
SCOTUS hit by a bombshell leak of secret shadow docket memos.
The Supreme Court has increasingly relied on ruling on high stakes policy through the shadow docket.
And apparently, this has been leaked.
The origins of the Supreme Court's secretive shadow docket have been revealed, providing a glimpse into how the justices began bypassing traditional procedures.
To issue rulings.
A new bombshell report from the New York Times based on internal memos reveals how the court has been using this rule to, using this to rule on high stakes matters.
Chief Justice Roberts could learn from baseball great Ted Williams when it comes to leaks.
The New York Times published internal memos from justices on the use of the shadow docket to issue rulings.
Another confidential, another leak of confidential information rocked the Supreme Court.
The last time something like this happened was the Dobbs decision, the abortion decision, which we all know they leaked that for the election.
They leaked that for the Democrats to use abortion for the election, and you never found that leaker, did you?
Of course not, because it'd be impossible.
Nobody could find them.
But if you whispered a secret anti Semitic statement in a middle school bathroom, the DOJ would be flying out of helicopters and going down on ropes, bashing in the windows and doors to arrest you.
But they can't find that leaker.
They just can't find it, guys.
They just have no idea.
So nothing will happen.
Nothing will happen.
Even though maybe they were committing some light treason?
Leaked memos reveal just how much the Supreme Court has betrayed the Constitution, all in service of its corporate patrons.
Oh, over the weekend, the New York Times published a trove of personal memos from the members of the Supreme Court outlining the court's promiscuous use of the so called shadow docket that has become the carefully constructed conservative majority's favorite workaround to kill policies it doesn't like.
And support causes that it and the corporate sponsors do.
This report is an astonishing leak of private communications between the justices.
It bespeaks a court at war with itself, completely out of the control of Chief Justice John Roberts.
The best evidence of the latter contention is the fact that Roberts emerges from these memos as a complete hack.
Yes, well, that's because he's a cuck bitch who's too afraid to deal with the liberal ideologues that have corrupted the Supreme Court.
And it's very likely that one or more of Trump's nominees have decided to take part in this.
So here's how it goes you put these radicals on the bench, and in the past it's always been liberals, but I'm not so sure Coney Barrett doesn't have her own little radical bent.
So, you have these leftist ideologues that get on the Supreme Court, and they don't think about the Supreme Court as the final ruling, the final law of the land.
They don't look at it like that.
They don't look at that seat that they're in as a major privilege.
They don't look at that as a big role in the larger American justice system.
No, these leftists get in there, these liberals get in there, and they look at it as okay, how can I leave my mark?
How can I get in here and impart my ideologies and impart liberal progressivism permanently in this country?
How can I use my seat on the Supreme Court to inflict America with leftist liberal progressive ideology?
And it destroys the whole thing.
And then once you see the left doing it, then the right does it in their own ways.
And then once they see they can make a bunch of money off of it, then the whole thing gets corrupted, like Justice Sotomayor did.
So that's what's happened.
The Supreme Court has been totally corrupted.
Chief Justice Roberts has let it happen.
And the only one at this point, it seems like the only one with full integrity is Clarence Thomas.
Seems to be the only member of the Supreme Court that actually has his full integrity in place, Justice Clarence Thomas, an American icon.
It seems everybody else has become corruptible.
And the left, when they didn't look at this as a revered position of law and justice, they looked at it as a revered position for them to inflict their ideologies into this country.
Oh boy, oh boy.
What else do we have here?
Let's start the pile drive.
Let's start the pile drive.
Trump administration to begin refunding $166 billion to businesses in wake of Supreme Court decision.
So, in other words, you're not getting a dose check.
You're not getting a tariff dividend.
No, you actually paid the tax, you paid more for the tariffs.
And now the Trump administration is going to bail out all of the businesses.
They now owe money because of these illegal tariffs.
What a nightmare this was.
What an absolute nightmare this tariff situation was.
And you know what?
I'm not even in agreement with the Supreme Court.
I think Trump should be able to do these tariffs, but it just shows you how they never had a real plan, folks.
Trump never had a real plan.
He got bad advice, and now this whole thing is getting stuck right back to him.
And you, the American consumer, you paid the price of this tariff, and now the businesses are getting a refund from the government, and you got screwed.
What a complete disaster.
This was such a failure.
Again, whether you want to blame it all on Trump or the Supreme Court, but it ends up being Trump's massive failure.
Whether it was his fault or not, this ended up being a massive, huge, ginormous failure of President Trump's tariffs.
Really bad.
Virginia, bad news.
Voters say they feel confused and misled on Virginia's redistricting vote.
This is happening tomorrow.
What to expect in Tuesday's special election on Virginia's redistricting.
First, when Virginia elected Glenn Youngkin, that was kind of the game plan where you looked at, say, 2022, even 2024, maybe, and you said, okay, how did Glenn Youngkin win Virginia?
How did Glenn Youngkin flip Virginia and become a populist candidate?
Was it policy or was it approach?
And it turned out it was approach.
And what they discovered in the Newsom campaign was Newsom is, excuse me, Youngkin campaign.
In the Yunken campaign, Yunken was able to go out to rural Virginia, go out into the sticks, go out into the woods, go out into the forgotten areas.
And he essentially overwhelmed the deep blue district.
He overwhelmed the population dense blue districts with all of the surrounding areas that went red.
So that kind of became a game plan for Republicans.
It was hey, overwhelm the metropolitan vote with the country vote, to put it simply.
So that worked.
Well, now the Democrats are using Virginia.
To create their path to victory.
So the Democrats know Trump is down bad.
The Democrats know that MAGA and the Republican Party is down bad, and they have an opening right now.
They have an opening to slide as many things past the goalie politically as possible since the GOP is weak.
And I mean, outside of Trump being president, what power does the Republican Party even have right now?
They can't get their act together in the House.
They can't get their act together in the Senate.
Trump has betrayed his base.
MAG is dead.
So here you go, guys.
We just fought for years to give the Republican Party everything with the mandates, and they instead turned it into nothing.
They're going to turn it into a big Democrat victory.
So this brings us to Virginia.
So what are they doing in Virginia?
So they're going to put this redistricting vote up there.
They know the Democrats are favored to win huge.
And so that's why they're doing it.
So, tomorrow, the Democrats are betting that Republicans aren't going to show up to vote.
And it's probably a safe bet, considering the Democrats have won every special election since Trump got into office.
The Republicans are over.
They're over, guys.
The Democrats are literally undefeated since Trump got into office.
That's what a disaster Trump has been, including flipping some seats in the House.
So, here's what's going to happen.
The Democrats are going all in tomorrow that they're going to win and they're going to redistrict Virginia and they are going to gerrymander Virginia into a Democrat majority, a Democrat super majority, mind you.
The Republicans, the GOP, the Trump administration has done nothing, folks.
Nothing that can lead to political victories.
So the Democrats are going to get in there.
They're going to win these midterms and they're going to redraw lines to make sure Republicans can't win for two election cycles.
And that will put the Democrats in charge of the Senate, the House, and the White House in 2028.
And you know who did that?
Donald Trump.
That's how bad this deal is going.
I don't want to sit here and watch this happen.
I don't want.
To see Democrats win two straight election cycles.
I'm just telling you, this is where it's going.
I'm just telling you, this is where the direction of the country is headed.
And ultimately, Trump will be the one that gives Democrats the House, the Senate, and potentially the White House back in 2028.
And not only that, because the Democrats know they're about to win these elections so big, they're putting Redistricting on the ballot right now when Republicans are weaker than they've ever been.
So they're going to vote to redistrict and then they're going to vote themselves into power permanently for two or three election cycles.
And the Republican Party, that has all the power in the country, can't do anything to stop it because they refuse to deliver for the American people.
And ultimately, Trump will be the one that ushers in a Democrat dynasty, not a Republican dynasty, not a Trump dynasty, which is what we should have had.
He instead is going to usher in a Democrat dynasty.
And it could get so bad that they could flip Texas blue.
That's how bad it could get.
I'd say right now, it's like 52% the Republicans can maintain the Senate in Texas.
I'm going to talk about the Epstein files, and I'm going to make the case that even though there are unanswered questions about Epstein, it is in fact time to move on.
So, we don't know anything about the Epstein files.
They could have been raping kids.
He could have been blackmailing our entire country.
He could have been an asset for a foreign country that was blackmailing our country into their D. Like, Epstein, this whole thing could have been as bad as it is.
But we got to move on.
Listen to this.
Folks, if this isn't the cuck mindset, if this isn't why the American people are losing everything, if this isn't why the GOP is the most pathetic party, even worse than Democrats, I don't know what is.
Here's Dinesh D'Souza admitting, yeah, Epstein might have been the worst person in the history of the world, blackmailing our entire country, but we need to just move on.
Anybody that's saying that now, I think, is blackmailed.
Guys, I have to tell you.
I got to say this.
I am in such a weird spot right now because, first of all, my instincts are already like anti political, if that makes sense.
I don't really have political instincts, I don't act like a politician, I wasn't drawn to political media.
I don't really trust the people in the political world.
And so I see all of these people that I have some form of a relationship with, professionally mostly, maybe sometimes personally.
And I see all of this stuff happening, like with Dinesh and others.
And I want to get along, but I can't help it.
I'm looking at this and I'm like, dude, are you in the files?
Like, what the hell?
It's a really weird thing to balance this stuff right now.
And it's like, I, because part of my instincts is just go isolationist.
I talk about that, like, just go isolationist, don't do interviews, anything.
But people want interviews.
You got to interview people.
You got to do subject stories.
You got to get this stuff, you know, you got to put this stuff on your channels and make sure you're covering it.
So there's like, I'm trying to balance these things.
But it's just like, oh my gosh, dude.
It's like, I just, I can't.
It's kind of like the Don Jr. Skittles.
I think it was Don Jr. who said, if you knew one of those Skittles was poisoned in the bull, you wouldn't reach in and grab it.
It's like I feel that way about people in the political world.
I do.
And I don't even want to get too deep into it.
But like, I mean, there's a reason I don't like Washington, D.C., there's a reason why I don't go hanging around Washington, D.C. There's a reason why I don't feel any desire to go and hang out at Mar-a-Lago.
Not against the people that do.
You make your own decisions in life.
There's a reason I don't.
There's a reason I don't, folks.
I mean, I've, you know, I, I, it's like, I ain't like that.
I've met some really fantastic people and I've got great friends.
There are definitely great people.
Generally speaking, these are not people you want to be around.
These people are not cooler than you.
They're not funnier than you.
They're not better looking than you.
They're probably not even richer than you.
They're nothing.
All they have is their DC status.
That's it.
All they have is their DC status and they can go take a picture at the fancy event, take a picture at the political event, post it on social media and pretend like they have this wealth and status.
They have nothing.
You guys, I would rather hang out with you guys 100 out of 100 times than go to some DC elite party.
I would rather hang out with my listening audience than go to Mar a Lago, than go to the White House.
I don't relate to these people.
I don't get these people.
I don't feel I have anything in common with these people.
And just when you think you do, just when you think we do have something in common, like this whole MAGA, populist, nationalist common sense, what ends up happening?
MAGA turns out to be a sycophantic, psychotic cult.
So it's like, oh, I guess really none of you.
So here's another example.
Bill Mitchell.
I mean, this guy's head, this guy's got to have a neck injury the way his head has been twisting and turning.
Bill posts this today.
And, like, Bill, I give Bill enough credit where he's able to get into it and have a debate on social media.
And he just, you know, he believes his thing, but he doesn't get nasty.
He, like, Bill Mitchell seems like maybe a normal guy.
But his head, Bill, I mean, honestly, do you need a masseuse?
Do you need a DJ?
Tissue neck massage because, brother, you have been jerking your neck left and right.
It's got to be twisting you up.
He says, by allowing Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz, Trump is making them irrelevant because he is forcing the rest of the world to find ways around Hormuz.
No, I think New York City is Lil Tel Aviv and Miami would be like Jerusalem or maybe the other way around.
I don't know.
I don't know.
BB Benko got my BOGO Chipotle slop wearing superior Blackhawk sweater.
What does that have to do with BOGO Chipotle slop?
Am I missing something?
Unlike your stinky blue sweater, best rivalry in sports.
You know, I was thinking about that.
Somebody said, Were the Yankees playing the Red Sox this weekend?
I can't remember.
There was some sports rivalry happening this weekend.
And I said, Nothing is better than the Chicago St. Louis sports rivalry.
And the reason I say that is because I think it has the most mutual respect where I can go to a game at Wrigley Field and I mean, really just, you know, really just go all out.
And I know I'm going to have fun.
Like I can go to Wrigley Field and act like a jackass and I'm going to come out untouched because it's fun.
Everybody has fun.
A Cubs fan can come to Bush Stadium, act like a jerk, and it's still fun.
Nobody's going to try to punch you or pour a beer on you.
Everybody's going to laugh and have a good time.
That's what the Cubs Cardinals rivalry is.
That's why I think it is the best.
Blues, Blackhawks, you know, it's hockey.
It gets a little more intense.
I will say the Blackhawks might have the best sweater in hockey.
They might.
There is a fair argument to be made.
The new Blues jerseys are awesome, but they fudged this deal so badly.
For an organization that does so much right, they fudged this new jersey situation so bad.
It blows my mind, actually.
They have, they basically have two jerseys.
They have an away jersey and a home jersey, and they're two totally different jerseys.
And I'm scratching my head.
Both the home and the away jersey need to be the away jersey.
And you just have to flip the colors, obviously.
So when you're home, you wear the blue.
And when you're away, you wear the white now.
But they have a totally different home jersey.
It's got different stripes, different everything.
The home jersey sucks.
They blew, they blew it on the home jersey.
The St. Louis Blues away jersey.
Top notch, top notch competes with the Blackhawks.
They blew the home jersey though.
They just need to get rid of the home jersey and just make it the away jersey with the home colors.
That's all they got to do.
So I don't know how they blew that one.
But you know what?
The Hawks are worse than the Blues, and the Blues have won a Stanley Cup more recently.
So suck on that.
PFF painting day.
Uh huh.
Single stroke painting day.
Gigi is sad.
Argentina is becoming a Zio asshole.
Tay Tay.
You know that situation with the forest fires is getting worse.
I've just decided I've just quit covering that, but it's getting even worse than it was originally, guys.
They're going to take Argentina from Hitler's lineage.
They're going to find whatever's left in bags.
Andrew Wilson said on a live stream over the weekend that there is no evidence Epstein was a sex trafficker, and people who care about that issue are blindly following a trend based on emotions.
Well, that's just like his opinion, man.
And maybe talk some tickets.
Maybe he'll bring that up at our debate, which is in a week.
I can't believe it.
It's in a week, guys.
It's in a week.
Guys, come out to the University of South Carolina next Monday.
I'm debating Andrew Wilson on is Trump a success or not?
Has the second Trump administration been a success or not?
UncensoredAmerica.us.
Just click events, and it's the first one that pops up.
UncensoredAmerica.us.
Click events.
I hope to see you at the University of South Carolina.
Very much looking forward to debating Andrew Wilson.
He is a great debater, no doubt about it.
And I look forward to that.
That'll be mutual respect.
We'll see if Epstein comes up.
H1 Byrone spammed me.
I hit spam him back with fishback.
Oh, you must be talking about like donor requests and stuff.
We won the war.
It's not a war.
We've always been at war with Oceana.
War never met her.
Open the effing straight.
I told you I want to close the straight.
That's about right.
It's about right.
You could throw in a couple more, but yeah, you got it.
Remember when Trump promised mass deportations and no new wars?
So long ago now, it's hard.
Thank you, Jet Jose Navarro.
Can you set up hot buttons for the time Trump contradicts himself, like Obama is going to take us to a round war?
To now, presidents should have had the guts.
What do you mean, like hot buttons?
Oh, like audio drops.
Like, whenever there's an Iran news story, and then I just play Trump saying it's not going to happen.
I think that's what you're saying.
Yeah, well, that's a lot of work that I don't think really adds much.
I think everybody knows it.
Major issue here is Democrats cried wolf way too many times.
Nobody trusts them when we need everyone to call Trump out.
Yeah, well, they're a victim of their own lunacy, they're a victim of their own nonsense in that regard.
And now Trump gets to use that as a buffer.
Actually, so now the Democrat hysteria is actually working in favor of Trump, ironically enough.
Owen Jones Troyer, energy secretary, says gas prices won't be below $3 until 2027.
You're talking about Chris Wright.
I also saw Susie Wiles.
She went on, was it, I think it was an MS Now panel.
It might have been an NBC special this weekend.
Susie Wiles said the exact same thing.
So I guess that's the new White House talking point.
But Susie Wiles said over the weekend gas will not be below $3 until at least 2027.
Great news, man.
Great news for the midterms.
2016, lock her up.
2026, hope and change.
Well, no, actually, Trump likes the Clintons now.
Big Mike, 2028, for reals.
I don't think the Obamas want to get anywhere near it.
And, you know, Obama must be thanking Donald Trump now.
After the first Trump administration, Trump made Obama look like an ass.
Now, after the second Trump administration, Trump is making Obama look like not so bad.
Caroline, boom, boom, boom, boom, her blue Lulus.
I'm going to miss Caroline when she goes away for that baby.
She's pregnant right now.
We're going to miss Caroline.
We're going to miss those big boom, boom, booms.
Everybody knows.
EM, Blues in Stanley Cup playoffs.
How are they doing?
Is that a gotcha thing?
I talked about that last week.
No, the Blues are not in the playoffs.
But I got to say, the NHL playoffs have started, and there's probably no better competition in sports than the Stanley Cup playoffs.
That's how you know you're getting the good food and not the slop.
If you don't want goy slop, eat kosher.
MTG is now asking questions on assassination attempt.
I saw that.
So, look, I'm not going to get too heavy into that, but I'm following the story.
It seems the questions are not.
I mean, look, let's be honest.
They might not believe the official story anymore.
That's not how they're framing it.
So, let's just be honest.
They're framing it because Trump has essentially.
Shut down the investigation.
Essentially, what is coming out of DC now is we don't want to know who Thomas Crooks is.
We don't want to look into the attempted assassination.
They just want to be done with it.
They want to wipe it away, which is weird to say the least, maybe suspicious.
So that's all they're saying.
They're saying, why is DC covering this up now?
Why is the Trump administration trying to sweep this under the rug and forget about it?
That's the angle they're taking.
They might not believe it, they might think it's fake.
And I will say, I get approached by people now, Trump supporters.
And they'll come up to me.
They all think it's fake now.
Now, Trump supporters think it's fake.
That's a little too much for me to grasp right now because people did die that day.
I mean, there were people there.
And I do think so.
There's been some new camera angles.
They're not new, but I guess people are just looking at them now.
These camera angles have been there, but it shows what appears to be people behind the scenes getting set up.
And then there's this one angle where it looks like.
After Trump is shot at, the flag lowers perfectly into the photo, which, if you saw that, you'd be like, yeah, that's a staged photo op.
Now, apparently, I mean, the official narrative is that, and it lines up potentially with the shot, if you believe any of it.
The bullet fragment hit the hydraulics on that crane, and that's what caused the flag to drop.
Now, the odds of this happening are like 10 million to one.
So I totally understand why you don't believe it.
But, I mean, you can watch it happen.
I mean, I analyzed this stuff for days.
I was analyzing this stuff.
And, I mean, you can see the bullet hits the bleachers and then the fragment hits the hydraulic system behind it.
And that's when you hear that because it hits the hydraulics and then the flag, then it falls down to its lowest possible point when metal hits metal and then the flag is in the picture.
So it's like a 10 in a million shot, but that appears to be what happened.
If you think it was set up, that's fine.
But no, people are coming up to me now.
They think the whole thing is fake.
And they're not even, and they'll come up to me.
There's these images now.
I have, somebody came up to me and showed me this.
They look at Trump's ear before and after, and there's no difference.
I don't know.
That's, I don't know, guys.
But apparently, the Trump administration is no longer interested in finding out about Thomas Crooks.
So go figure.
Justine, Trump love bombed MAGA.
MAGA likes being in abusive relationships.
With him, apparently.
Happy birthday.
It is like an abusive relationship with our government.
And maybe worse with Trump specifically.
It's a love bomb.
He's love bombing everyone.
Don't you know all of these bombs are loving?
When we in Israel drop bombs, it's loving.
When anybody else drops bombs in response, it's a war.
We're going to take Alcoholics Anonymous and scatter it to the wind and turn it into a museum of the deep state.
Well, he said that about the CIA, right?
I think it was, or did he say that?
Did he say that about the FBI?
I think it was actually about the FBI before he got nominated.
Good luck.
Hey, man, I'm suing you because you reported that I drink out of a yellow mug.
Trump comes out against Alex Jones, and now the Onion is taking over InfoWars.
Is it officially May 1st?
Is what I read.
These two things might not be connected, but what a tragedy, man.
What a tragedy.
Man, and they hung on.
They hung on over there.
They did.
They did for so long.
And I guess finally, May is the end of it.
I guess that's it.
And so the Onion will be taking over Infowars now.
Again, I don't know.
We've been here before, too.
But yeah, Trump was probably the last hope to save that.
And I will tell you that there were people in DC that tried to make it happen, whatever it was.
Nobody really knew, but trying to do something right for Alex Jones, trying to do something for InfoWars, there were people in DC that tried to make it somewhat of a priority.
And no, it just got zero.
And the people that did make the most noise about it were basically.
Kicked out of everything and just sent to hide in a corner.
So I don't know if Trump bashing Alex recently had anything to do with it.
The timing might make you think that there's a connection there.
But no, I mean, Trump's not going to stop it from happening.
He's going to brag about it.
So twice Trump has actually, Donald Trump is rubbing it in Alex's face that they did this to him, which is so sick, honestly.
It really, like, this is the total proof that Trump is nothing but a chump.
That Trump is nothing but a cheap trick chump.
That he would use Alex Jones and InfoWars to get into office, and now he would use the office to take a big fat shit on Alex Jones and InfoWars.
That's who Trump really is, sadly.
Unfortunately, that's who Trump is.
And all the people that said it were right.
They were.
That's exactly who Donald Trump ended up being a two bit cheap trick chump.
Fine, you're going to let them do this to Alex.
Okay, maybe there's nothing you can do.
But to rub it in his face, to shove his head in the mud while it's happening, you're a piece of trash, Trump.
Absolutely nothing done at the behest of the establishment.
Yeah, the only difference is that there was no, the level of political awareness and activism when Bush was in was way different than it is today.
And the left right paradigm was way more powerful than it is today.
So, because of MAGA and the shattering of the left right paradigm, I don't think, now I'm not saying Trump is going to get, you know, Trump, he can get away with it as far as we are concerned, but it's not like Bush.
Trump is going to get way more heat.
There's going to be way more heat from the right on Trump, and it's going to be a mandate for the Democrats if they win in the midterms to get Trump on this, and he will get.
Republicans to join the Democrats on this.
That's the difference.
So I don't think it will be.
I think that's the big lie.
I think Trump has been tricked.
I think Trump has been conned.
I think they told him that.
They said, hey, Bush did it.
Obama did it.
And that's why he always says, Obama did it so I can do it.
You really think they're going to let you play by the same rules as Bush and Obama?
And if you do, then I don't know.
You're totally a sellout then.
If you have that much confidence, then you're totally a sellout or you're all on the Epstein list.
I don't know, but I don't think it will be a Bush got away with it.
I don't think it will be an Obama got away with it.
While everyone is waiting on Trump to come back to his senses, I say kick rocks back up that escalator he rode down.
I'm done.
You and many others.
It's some guy.
Hannity gave up being Catholic because of Trump.
Well, that was because of the Pope, but I guess that was because of Trump.
I did have that in my news today.
See if we can pull it up quickly.
Fox News' Sean Hannity explains why he left the Catholic Church after institutionalized corruption.
What a joke.
What an absolute hack Sean Hannity is.
What a shame.
What a fraud.
Tick tock indictments are coming.
Tick tock indictments are coming.
Shut up, you phony.
You absolute sellout phony.
So he's leaving the Catholic Church because of Pope Leo and Trump.
That's why.
Has nothing to do with institutionalized corruption.
Institutionalized corruption.
The Catholic Church has been corrupt for how long?
Hundreds of years?
What do you mean?
Oh, you just figured out institutional corruption at the Catholic Church?
What are you, retarded?
And by the way, Pope Leo is actually the first pope that's letting them do these investigations into the institutionalized corruption.
They've actually kicked out multiple priests, bishops, cardinals.
They found the corruption.
They're kicking them out.
Pope Leo is actually clearing out.
Pope Leo is making.
Pope Leo is making Catholics great again.
Pope Leo is making Catholicism great again.
Pope Leo is making the Vatican great again.
He's actually letting them go after the institutionalized corruption.
Institutionalized corruption.
Like you haven't heard about all the issues with kitty diddling.
Like you haven't heard about all the priests and pedophilia.
Like you haven't heard about the mass graves.
I mean, come on.
Institutionalized corruption.
Oh, did you just wake up yesterday?
What a liar you are.
The only reason you made, first of all, you probably don't even go to Catholic Mass.
You're probably not even Christian based off of what you do for a living.
Oh, you're leaving the Catholic Church today over institutionalized corruption.
So you've ignored the institutionalized corruption in the Catholic Church for your entire life, apparently.
But now today you're going to do this big grandstanding thing.
A hundred percent.
That was a nice little, that was a nice little reach around you gave Trump, wasn't it?
That was all that was.
Sean Hannity just politically reached around, jerked Trump off, rubbed his nipples a little bit, and said, You're welcome.
That's all this was a political sex play.
For Sean Hannity to say, Hey, Donald, I'm going to bash the Pope.
I'm going to bash the Pope and I'm going to bash the Catholics today, too.
And then maybe if you want to, you know, you want to, you know, give me a little, little howdy doody, little how's your sister?
That'd be great, Mr. President.
I'm going to get, I'm going to twist your nipples on air.
I'm going to jerk you off on air.
I'm going to leave the Catholic Church and bash the Pope.
I'm going to do that for you, Mr. President.
What an absolute sycophant.
What a total fraud.
Pope Leo making Catholics great again.
Pope Leo making Catholicism great again.
Pope Leo making the Vatican great again.
How do you like that?
Institutionalized corruption.
When are you going to leave politics for institutionalized corruption?
When are you going to leave Fox News for institutionalized corruption?
When are you going to leave the GOP, the Republican Party, for institutionalized corruption?
You are such a phony.
When are you going to leave the military industrial complex?
For institutionalized corruption.
What an absolute fraud you are, Sean Hannity.
You are the reason why conservatives never win.
You are the reason why the Republican Party has nothing to show for it for the last 26 years.
You, Sean Hannity, you with your blowhard ego and your fake hair and your fake makeup and your fake intellect and your fake books and your fake show, you are the fraud here.
You are the institutionalized corruption, Sean Hannity.
You have destroyed right wing politics and turned it into neocon, war hawk, warmongering, CIA misinformation, you phony.
Does that settle that, guys?
I think we settled that pretty good.
But since we're on that, Pope Leo is actually very popular.
NBC poll Pope Leo held in highest esteem among public personalities.
He's the most popular public figure.
A March NBC poll found that American voters hold Pope Leo in highest esteem among other public personalities.
So, in other words, Pope Leo is more popular than Donald Trump.
So he's pissed.
So Trump is pissed.
Because people like Pope Leo more than they like Donald Trump, myself included.
Pope Leo is America's most powerful man.
That's why Trump can't stand him.
I think that's it, guys.
I think that's it.
That's why.
Makes sense.
All right, Don.
Poisoned food, poisoned water, poisoned air, PDFs in power.
And we're talking about midterms.
Well, yeah, I mean, we do still have them as of now.
So, yeah.
Machiavelli, I only listen to you.
Is there anyone else?
Yes, there are a lot of else, but I am the best.
I am the best.
The reason why you listen to me is because I listen to everything else, read everything else, watch everything else, and then I condense it into normally three hours.
I'm going to be over four hours today, but that's why you listen to me.
But there are other truth tellers out there.
There are few and far between, I got to say.
Very few and far between.
But they're out there.
But I listen to all of them.
I listen, watch, read everything, and then I bring it all here for three hours a day.
So if you miss anything, you'll find it here.
Jack Slim.
Should we boycott Rogan and KT?
KT.
What am I missing here?
I don't really care what you want to watch or not.
I guess Rogan, because he was at the White House.
You know what?
On that, I actually got to give Trump credit.
Brilliant move bringing Rogan to the White House.
He needed to do it badly.
Trump, see, they know they're not popular.
Despite the air of confidence they walk around in, they know they're not popular.
ID Pine Nuts, happy Monday in the wacky world of politics.
You got it, buddy.
80s New Wave Geek.
Thanks for the stream with USS Liberty Survivor.
Yes, great guys over there.
Thank you for watching that.
We posted that this weekend.
Latina girlfriend and I went to Catholic Mass, unlike Hannity.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Yeah.
And back to last week.
So that's what Jay Dyer wanted me to do a debate on Catholicism because I guess he heard me talking about how I was born and raised Catholic and liked Pope Leo.
So he wanted to do a debate on Catholicism.
And I just said, I don't really.
I mean, I can show up and talk, but I'm not like.
I'm not the guy to sit here and debate the positives of the Catholic Church or anything.
Like, I'm not really, I don't think I'm going to give you what you want.
So I don't know.
I told him that.
I don't really think, I mean, I don't like, I don't come on here and make the case for Catholicism.
I haven't been to Catholic Mass in years.
So I don't really think that's really a, I don't think it would be right for me to accept the debate just to be on a platform when I'm really not in that spectrum of coverage.
But that's what he was reaching out.
He wanted me to, I guess, be the pro Catholic voice in a debate.
And I just said, hey, man, I don't, I haven't been to Catholic Church in years.
I don't really talk about the Catholic, like, it's not a big issue for me.