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March 5, 2026 - Owen Shroyer Live
03:37:56
President Trump Announces Support For Transgender Surgery For Minors

Owen Shroyer dissects Trump’s sudden U.S. support for minor transgender surgeries—dismissed as a political stunt amid $10B+ Iran war costs and surging gas prices (Louisiana up 40¢/gallon)—while exposing alleged gold deals with Venezuela, DHS shakeups, and NATO’s silence on Israel’s Lebanon escalation. He ties Epstein files to Zelensky, Pizzagate’s pizza/beef jerky codes, and FBI cover-ups, accusing elites of ritualistic trafficking while mocking MAGA blind loyalty. The episode ends with AI governance fears, April protest warnings, and a denial of pro-trans claims, framing Trump’s shifts as calculated chaos to exploit his base. [Automatically generated summary]

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ben swann
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owen shroyer
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tom llamas
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Israel Moves into Lebanon 00:04:16
owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, March 5th, 2026.
Here's what's coming up on the Owen Report today.
We have an absolutely loaded broadcast.
We're probably going to have to go into some overtime today.
That's how loaded we are.
We're going to start it off with some liner stuff, some just general political stuff when it comes to ratings, polls, what Trump is doing to prepare for potential midterm losses.
And then just kind of some of the attitude within MAGA right now that we're all kind of witnessing for ourselves in different directions.
So we'll talk about what's going on in Texas.
We'll talk about what's going on across the country.
And it's giving us a pretty good idea with some of the latest moves from the president, where things are going, especially this latest move.
Trump is now pro transgender surgery for minors.
ben swann
I'm sorry.
owen shroyer
And I got to say, I'm wondering if it's not this game now, if the Trump administration isn't just playing this game just to see how stupid their supporters are.
And it's like he picks up the phone.
He's like, wow, well, they like war now.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
I thought maybe the war thing would turn them off a little bit.
I know.
Why don't I come out for transgender children?
That'll be the one, right?
That'll end it.
And then he comes out for transgender children and the MAGA hat stays on these people.
Incredible stuff.
So we got that.
We got big news as far as energy is concerned.
Oil prices are skyrocketing.
Shipping prices are skyrocketing.
Doug Bergham is down in Venezuela and they're cutting energy deals and they're cutting gold deals.
So we got all of that in the news.
We'll have that for you.
What China is doing in response?
The issue that maybe our real greatest ally, Japan, is about to have to address.
Christy Noam is out.
Is this a sign of things to come?
With Christy Noam getting fired today, are we going to start seeing more of this as the administration and the poll numbers start to tank?
Let's start firing people.
Maybe that will help.
And then we've just got tons of updates on the situation with the Iran war.
We have some as far as the developments on the ground.
As you know, we're kind of avoiding the actual on-the-ground stuff simply because it's so hard to tell what's real and what's fake.
It's so hard to tell what's just pure propaganda and what's going on.
But we do have some of those developments for you today.
We got a statement from the Pope, and then we got statements from a bunch of members of Congress and then Trump himself as far as where the war is at or the non-war war, or as Lindsey Graham put it, the what did he say, the unofficial war, undeclared war.
And then I was proven right.
Yes, I was proven right.
No, the NATO countries and Europe are not backing the United States and Israel.
And there are more statements on that today as now Israel is moving in to Lebanon.
You know, I've never been one to call it a genocide.
I have to tell you, now, now to see what Israel is doing in Lebanon, I'm about to start calling it genocidal.
It's honestly getting ridiculous.
And it's like, that's the one word when you say that.
They really start to come at you.
So I've kind of avoided it.
And I don't even know if I've really felt it.
But now, what you see going on in Lebanon, I don't even know what to call it, actually.
Protecting Private Information 00:04:46
owen shroyer
There's a historical reference for this, though.
We'll have that.
Plus, it's official.
They were getting paid, as if we didn't know.
They were all getting paid to be pro-Israel on their social media accounts.
We've got an update on that.
They got an update on the Epstein files.
We got an update on the situation yesterday with the protest, the We Don't Want to Die for Israel protest.
We got some woke right stuff.
And we have Ben Swan, Ben Swan, the great Ben Swan joining us in the third hour.
Guys, I'm telling you, this one is loaded today.
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On the cutting edge of news and analysis, the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
owen shroyer
All right, guys, I'll tell you, we got a loaded one today.
We got a loaded one today.
So much news and information to try to get to.
We might have to go into overtime.
And I really don't even have time.
I really don't even have time to monologue.
And I anticipate there'll probably be some intermittent monologues today.
So let's just get right into it.
And this is the cold, hard truth.
This is the cold, hard truth that we were trying to reverse with President Trump.
Americans Losing Faith 00:15:08
owen shroyer
The world is watching America lose its moral compass and its global credibility.
And this is almost why Trump is worse than any of them.
Because this was supposed to be what Trump was reversing.
This is supposed to be what we were doing as a country, reversing this image that the rest of the world had of us.
Warmongers, fat, stupid, totally corrupt, corrupt D.C., corrupt presidents, all of it.
Trump was our message to the world.
Hey, we're taking our country back.
Hey, we've got a guy in there.
Maybe you like his style, maybe not, but this is America taking its country back, not doing the forever wars anymore, not having total corruption anymore, not being fat, stupid, drunk war whores anymore and the rest of it.
And now Trump has totally turned into that.
And so it's like, oh, it was all fake.
It's like, oh, you guys just faked this all out.
And this is why, I guess you could say on the geopolitical, on the international stage, this is so heartbreaking.
Because yes.
Yes, as the headline says, the world is watching America lose its moral compass and its global credibility.
That is the truth.
What we've done now with the boat strikes and Venezuela and Iran supporting Israel and its mass slaughter.
And now the Epstein files.
It's really bad.
And it's really heartbreaking.
And you just see the MAGA cult, the sycophants, the cheerleaders, and they really just think this is some sort of a ballgame to them.
They don't get it.
They're really immature.
And they just think it's like, oh, we're just going to cheer on our favorite team at a ball game, at a sporting event.
And they truly cannot comprehend what this is all looking like.
They truly cannot comprehend what this is projecting to the rest of the world because they just think they're cheerleaders for the popular sports team.
They just think they're part of the team.
But no, no, you're going to be paying more for gasoline.
Your energy costs are going to be going up.
You won't be able to afford a house.
All the same stuff that we were concerned about.
No, you're not getting in on any of this.
You're not getting in.
You're not going to win on any of this stuff.
And it's funny to watch them think that they're somehow winning.
It's funny to watch them think that somehow this is victory for them because they're just waving pom-poms.
No, you're not getting any victory.
The U.S. military in this war in Iran, as the numbers go right now, are spending five, they've spent $5 billion.
They're spending $1 billion per day.
$1 billion.
Don't worry.
They're not concerned about energy costs.
They're not concerned about the economy.
If it's war, they got the money.
But you, you will pay the price.
And now we're paying the price domestically.
We're paying the price geopolitically.
And I see a lot of people mismeasuring this whole thing because they think this is the same Trump administration from 2016.
They think this is the same President Trump from 2016.
And they just don't get it.
And here's another poll.
Fox News.
So you know, they're favoring the right on this.
They're favoring Trump, and this is the best they could get.
President Trump's handling of Iran has made the United States 29% say safer, 51% say less safe, 19% no difference.
The majority of Americans agree that Trump's war in Iran, which is Netanyahu's war in Iran, makes America less safe.
Do you hear me?
Do you hear me?
This is a Fox News poll.
The majority of Americans in a Fox News poll think America is less safe because of Trump's foreign policy.
Do you hear me?
No, I have to repeat this.
This needs to hit home.
You're going to be hearing about midterms and they're going to be blaming everybody that's not in the Trump cult.
Excuse me.
Stop.
Americans are going to be thinking about two things for these midterms.
Do they feel more or less safe?
And is the economy better or worse?
And right now, they feel less safe and the economy is not better.
And it might get worse, and we already have the signs.
We already have the signs.
Democrats are 27-0 since Trump was elected.
Democrats have flipped 27 seats since Trump was elected.
Republicans have flipped zero.
And then Grok gets into it here.
Democrats have flipped 27 Republican-held state legislative seats since the 2024 election, nine special election flips in 25-26, plus off-year gains in New Jersey and Virginia, while Republicans have flipped zero Democrat-held ones.
There's your taste for the midterms, and the Iran war isn't helping, and gas prices going up isn't helping.
And then you've got the situation in Texas.
Starr County, Texas, Trump won 58% of the vote.
On Tuesday in the primary, 96% of votes were for Democrats.
It went from 58% in 2024 to 96% Democrat in 2026.
Starting to get the picture yet?
And now Texas is dealing with Trump, who says, I'm going to decide who will be the Senate candidate.
Now, Paxton came out and said, well, if Trump says, if Trump endorses Cornyn, I'm not dropping out.
So then Trump insulted Paxton.
That's bad for him to say.
Trump puts Paxton on notice in Texas Senate primary.
Paxton is one of the best that we got.
Paxton has been one of the best Republican representatives of Texas as the attorney general here for the last couple of years.
He's been one of the best Republicans, much better than Abbott.
Probably should have been Attorney General instead of Pam Bondi.
Honestly, maybe that's the move.
If Trump wants to try to cut a deal with Cornyn, which is what this is all about, then he should fire Pam Bondi and put Paxton in charge of the DOJ.
But I'm waxing.
I'm dreaming.
So Trump tells Paxton, no, I'm going to decide.
I'm going to decide who's going to be the Senate candidate.
Paxton says, no, well, I'm not dropping out.
Now, Cornyn, he's the incumbent.
He's the current senator.
He is trying to leverage whatever weight he has as that vote in the Senate right now.
And he's threatening to withhold Trump's recess appointments if he doesn't get the endorsement.
So now you've got Cornyn and Trump playing power plays, playing politics with this Senate election.
And Cornyn is saying, you better endorse me or I'm going to use my vote against you here because he knows he's cooked.
Because I'm going to tell you what will happen in the runoff with Cornyn and Paxton.
All of Wesley Hunt's votes are going to go to Paxton.
I would be shocked if Hunt doesn't come out and endorse Paxton.
He might have already done it.
The only way Cornyn could get that endorsement is with a big fat stack of cash, but I don't think Hunt is that corrupt.
I don't think Hunt would take it.
It's actually unfortunate because Wesley Hunt is a great candidate.
It's actually unfortunate that the Republican Party is so visionless and so rudderless that they can't even step in here and say, hey, Hunt, we like you as a candidate.
Let's put you in a race that is more conducive for you to get a victory and get into Congress, find a House seat, find something else, have him running for some other House seat against a Democrat seat that we could flip.
That would be smart politics.
But whoever is running the GOP is obviously not very smart.
It's all about money.
It's all about money.
And they can raise more money when Republicans are losing.
So Hunt and his whatever the final percentage was, that's going to go to Paxton and put him over the top.
So Cornyn knows in the runoff that Paxton will likely get those votes.
Now, I see some of the polls and I see some other percentages and stuff saying Cornyn is the favorite.
I disagree, and I just told you why.
I think that those are based off of Trump attacking Paxton and it looking like Trump's going to endorse Cornyn.
And so they just assumed that Paxton was going to drop out.
I don't think that's the case.
Now, apparently, Paxton has come out, and I think this was before Trump made the Save Act announcement today, but apparently Paxton threw his weight in there and said, I might consider stepping down if you guys pass the Save Act because I want to save the country.
But then Trump came out with his new Save Act policy.
And so we'll get to that in a second.
I don't know if that's going to stand.
I hope Paxton doesn't drop out.
There are a lot of great people here in Texas that worked really hard for his campaign.
And I'll tell you the other issue, and this is really probably the bigger issue.
If Paxton is not on the ballot for the midterms, I think Texas goes blue.
Paxton could be the one person that stops Texas from going blue.
Cornyn doesn't have much to run on.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
He's the incumbent?
That's about it.
There will be so much dirt on Cornyn, and it'll be the right that ends up dragging him down.
Paxton could be the only person that stops Democrats from taking Texas and taking a Senate seat and then perhaps using that momentum to flip Texas blue in 2028.
So this whole thing is so mismeasured.
This whole thing is so misguided.
And now it's just Trump and Cornyn playing politics.
And it seems that they don't even really care about anything else.
So Cornyn wants the endorsement, hoping Paxton will drop out so he can win again.
Trump wants Cornyn to be a loyalist so that he gets every vote he needs in the Senate.
And then Paxton gets left behind, even though that might be the only thing.
I'm telling you, Republicans, a lot of these Paxton voters, they're not going to go vote for Cornyn, folks, myself included.
I would go vote for Paxton.
I would be excited to go vote for Paxton.
If it's Cornyn, I have no enthusiasm.
I couldn't care less.
And I'm not the only one that feels that way.
So it seems that they don't care.
But do not doubt me on this.
If they go with Cornyn, the odds of Texas going blue increase because Paxton is the only thing that could potentially stop Texas from going blue.
Now, the Save Act.
Did you see the update from Trump today?
He posted it this morning.
The Save America Act.
All right, let's check it out.
One, all voters must show voter ID.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
That's what we wanted from this.
All right.
All voters must show proof of citizenship in order to vote.
Okay.
You must be a citizen to vote.
Okay.
I like that.
No mail-in ballots except for illness, disability, military, or travel.
All right.
Fair enough.
You'd like to say no mail-in ballots at all, but there are times I had to vote by mail in 2024, excuse me, in 2016.
So, okay, military disability, illness, travel.
All right.
So that's supposed to be it.
I'd like to see more measurements to secure our elections, like all paper ballots, no voting machines.
I don't know why that's not in here.
I don't know why they left out no voting machines.
No Voting Machines 00:11:13
owen shroyer
So that seems to be an issue, but there are two more bullet points here.
He throws in no men in women's sports.
Now, why is that even in this?
This whole thing needs to be about voting.
So here we go.
Here comes the pork.
Here comes the distractions.
Here comes the noise.
Good lord.
And then this is where it gets insane.
Point number five: no transgender mutilation surgery for children.
Oh, okay, nice.
Oh, wait, there's more without the express written approval of the parents.
What?
Trump is now pro, quote, transgender mutilation surgery for children.
Now, before I get into the MAGA Wars angle of this, let's just hit pause for a second.
Let's just.
Let's just understand what was just said here.
No transgender mutilation surgery for children without the express written approval of the parents.
Now, obviously, we see what this opens the whole thing up to, right?
And if you've been studying this issue, or if you've even done the case studies where there are issues down to the actual family members, we studied one case here that was in Texas extensively with Jeff Younger.
Whacked out parents can just decide they want to mutilate their children and then go to a doctor and tell them to do it.
And they can do it for political reasons.
They can do it because they resent their partner.
They can do it because they're whacked out of their mind for other reasons.
And so this is Trump supports this now?
What's that about?
Now, here's the other thing that when you read this, you have to understand.
This is insinuating that there are transgender mutilation surgeries for children happening without parental consent.
And so if that is the case, why aren't these doctors being arrested?
Now, you can start getting into, you know, who should be arrested and all this, but let's just lay something out here that shouldn't even be controversial.
If a doctor performs genital mutilation surgery on a minor without a parent's consent, shouldn't that doctor be arrested and in jail?
I'm not going to pretend like I'm sort of some sort of expert on these different laws, but I mean, I'm sure it's easy to look up.
If you sell, I know if you sell alcohol or tobacco to a minor, that's a crime.
If you allow a minor to consume your adult content, that's a crime.
What about tattoos?
What about piercings?
Can you do that before a certain age without parental consent?
I don't think so.
Pretty sure that's a crime too.
So, certainly, then it is a crime to perform genital mutilation surgery on a minor without parental consent.
So, if that is happening, why aren't doctors being arrested?
Why isn't this a bigger case?
Why aren't we talking about that?
So, that's just looking at the policy and the ramifications of it.
Now, why would Trump squeeze this into the Save America Act?
I can only think of two reasons.
One, he is just laughing at his supporters at this point.
He is just mocking you, he is trolling you, he is seeing how far he can go and have these brainwashed morons continue to support him.
Maybe it's not that diabolical.
Maybe Trump thinks if they throw in the trans crap, he can get some Democrats to vote for this and pass it.
But think about the engagement here.
Think about what's being requested and traded here.
If you're a Republican now and you're looking at this and you say, Well, okay, I support most of this stuff, but you're now asking me to vote to make transgender surgery for minors legal.
You're now asking me to support that and vote for that politically.
I don't want to do that.
My constituents don't want me to do that.
And now you're asking me to do that just to get this voter ID law passed.
This is insane.
And this is how crooked politics are.
This is how pork barrel spending happens.
This is why they have 5,000 pages of text in a bill so that you don't even know what's in it.
And you think, oh, yeah, well, we're just voting for, you know, defense.
We're just voting for border security.
And then there's 100 pages of pork and slop.
And now it's just right out there for you to see.
This is unreal.
Why can't we just get a bill passed?
And by the way, didn't Trump sign the executive order on this anyway?
Why can't we just get a bill passed to secure our elections, get rid of voting machines, paper ballots, voter ID, must be a citizen, and then the only circumstances for mail-in ballots as it says?
Why can't we do that?
What are we doing here?
What is this mess?
What is this mess?
And so now if you're a Republican, it's a fair question because this is what they have to consider.
Are you going to vote for the Save Act knowing that you're going to make transgender surgery for minors legal?
Is that an easy thing to do?
Is that an easy agreement to make?
Is that a trade-off you're willing to have?
Now, back into the MAGA slop of it.
Okay, we can point all the things that MAGA is for now.
They don't care.
Epstein files are a hoax.
Now we like war.
We don't care about deep state arrests.
We don't care.
Letitia James, James Comey can't get them.
You know, we don't care about any of that anymore.
This whole thing is one giant exercise in brainwashing.
And I'm almost, I can't help, I cannot help but wonder if this is all a big joke.
I cannot help but wonder if this is Trump and his friends just laughing at the MAGA people now like it's a game.
Like if you've ever seen Trading Places with Eddie Murray and Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, an all-time classic.
It's like, is that what this is?
Is this just a bunch of rich billionaires just laughing at the peasants?
Like, oh, Donald, you got them supporting war now.
You're incredible.
There's no way you can do better than that.
Oh, yeah.
How about this?
I'm going to come out for childhood transgender surgery.
You watch.
I'll get them to support trans surgery for children.
No way, Donald.
You couldn't do that.
There's no chance they would support that.
You didn't at all.
Watch this.
I'm going to do it.
You want to bet?
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to come out as pro-trans children and they're going to love me.
You watch.
They won't take the hat off.
They're still going to love me.
All right, Donald, you son of a bitch.
Let's see it.
Is that what this is?
And so here's an example.
Here's an example.
So I posted this on my ex, obviously.
So here's the meme.
You know, replace whatever MAGA slop they're peddling now.
Transgender surgery for minors is good now.
So war is good now.
Epstein is a hoax now, whatever it is.
We don't need deportations now.
All the things the MAGA cult NPCs agree with.
So now, so we're monitoring the situation.
And here's the latest: F off.
No one in MAGA agrees with that.
Dude, so is Trump not MAGA?
That's literally Trump's policy.
In the replies, I post the policy that Trump is pro-transgender mutilation surgery for children.
That's his own post.
And he says MAGA doesn't agree with that.
So is Trump not MAGA?
Do you see, do you see, folks?
I'm not trying to be mean, okay?
Sometimes maybe I'm trying to be mean.
I'm not trying to be mean here.
This is like genuine concern.
This is totally fair coverage.
If this isn't as brainwashed as it gets, I don't know what is.
It's one thing to just say, fine, I'll join the Trump cult for reason X, Y, or Z. I'll be a willing member of the Trump cult because I already invested so much into it.
I might as well go all the way.
I'll be a proud Trump NPC because I just don't know any better.
I'm not smart enough, intellectual enough, mature enough to understand anything else.
I'll be a full-blown Trump tard because I get paid to do it.
Whatever.
You choose reason X, Y, or Z.
This is just pure brainwashing to sit here and say no one in MAGA agrees with transgender mutilation surgery for children, even though now that's what Trump is promoting on his own posts.
Like he's literally the meme now.
They have quite literally become the NPC meme.
How far is this going to go, honestly?
Should we start playing the game?
Should we start playing the game?
What is Trump going to turn against next?
Oil Deals and Market Impact 00:10:55
owen shroyer
Actually, oil prices being expensive is a good thing.
Actually, we want to see gas prices go up.
It's much better that way.
Seriously, what ridiculousness can he get the Trump NPCs to go with yet?
What ridiculousness can the Trump NPCs go with next?
High energy costs are good.
We got Bill Clinton is good now.
Remember that one?
I actually like Bill.
I think he's a good guy.
We like Bill Clinton now.
What is he going to go with?
Hey, you know what?
We do have maybe some good news actually here.
When we went live today, oil prices were $81 a gallon.
They've actually dropped down to 79.
They're still up 5.8% today.
They're still up $4.37 today, but dropped a little bit.
So crude got over 81 today.
It's down to 79, it looks like, as we're monitoring the situation live.
But of course, gas prices are going to be going up with Trump's war in Iran.
So here's some of the numbers that we had today.
States with the biggest rise in gas prices compared to one week ago.
Louisiana is up.
I'm just going to round up for the sake of this.
Louisiana is up 40 cents a gallon.
Georgia is up 38 cents a gallon.
Iowa is up 36 cents a gallon.
Indiana, 35 cents a gallon.
West Virginia, 35.
Oklahoma, 35.
North Dakota, 34.
Ohio, 34.
South Dakota, 33.
Illinois, 31.
You guys remember these?
Remember the Biden?
I did that gas price sticker.
Are we going to need these again?
I hope not.
I hope we don't need the Trump version of them.
But at this rate, who knows?
I was an unfortunate sucker.
I watched it go up.
I pulled into the gas station and it went up today right as I pulled in.
That was a little slap in the face.
It's not up as bad in Texas, but it's up here.
It's up here.
And all the signs indicate it's only going to keep going up.
Then there was this news.
LNG sipping rates soar 650%.
LNG shipping rates soar 650% to $3,300,000 per day.
The global LNG slip shipping market has turned sharply higher in recent days, with charter rates for modern LNG carriers surging from roughly 40,000 last week to around 300,000 per day as traders scramble to secure vessels amid escalating disruption in the Middle East.
And I don't even think they've accounted for the fact that refineries are getting bombed and attacked and destroyed in the Middle East right now.
So I don't really think we've seen where this is going to go.
Now, this, as it turns out, this is obviously what the whole Venezuelan thing was about.
What a lie.
The whole thing was a lie.
It was never about drugs.
It was never about Maduro being a drug kingpin or this or that.
It was always about the oil.
So Bergham was down there today securing oil deals.
Bergum says U.S.-Venezuela ties moving at Trump speed will help keep energy costs down for Americans.
Trump admin seeks to expand Venezuelan oil access while reducing reliance on China and global energy supply chains.
Now, the question is going to be: how fast can they really get this oil to market?
So they're saying it's, oh, it's going to be Trump speed.
The truth is they don't have an answer.
They don't have an answer for that.
They don't have the infrastructure for it currently.
And I doubt, I mean, who knows?
Maybe the new Venezuelan leadership is telling the administration, all right, we'll just starve our people of oil for a couple of weeks.
We'll just give you everything that is ready to go.
I don't think this is going to do much in the near term.
This is going to take a while.
I think it could be months before we see the Venezuela oil really affect the markets.
But this is what the whole Maduro thing was all about.
So Bergham is out there with Fox News and the interim president Del Codriguez, and she's cooperating.
So there you go.
So that's what Venezuela was all about.
How long is it going to take?
Venezuela's president vows mining reform amid visit from U.S. cabinet member, U.S. Interior Secretary Doug Bergham, has met with Venezuela's interim president, Del C. Rodriguez in Caracas.
Now, here's going to be the question.
So they already have the American oil companies tapped that they're going to use.
They already know who they're going to use.
So now the question is going to be, and I, because I don't think these deals are done.
There's a concept of a deal.
There's an idea, but they're not ready to go.
So they have still got to, they've got to tap into it.
They got to build infrastructure.
They got to refine it.
There's a whole process that's going to happen here.
And I think these oil companies are going to come out.
They're going to leverage this now.
Of course, they are.
The oil companies are going to come out and leverage this now, and they're going to say, well, hold on a second.
And the U.S. already committed to this, by the way.
They're going to say, hold on a second.
We want you to pay for this infrastructure.
So now the United States taxpayer is going to be building this infrastructure in Venezuela so that we can get oil into America to try to keep oil prices down because Trump needs a war with Iran for BB and Israel, and he needs to get gas prices down before the midterms.
And so you, the United States taxpayer, you're going to pay for all of it.
You're going to pay for the infrastructure in Venezuela.
You're going to pay for the war in Iran.
And Trump's going to lose the midterms anyway.
The Republicans are still going to lose the midterms.
It's outrageous.
You'll be lucky.
We will be lucky if they can get gas down before the midterms.
I think this Venezuela deal is months away.
I don't think they're ready.
And I think the oil companies are going to leverage as much out of this as they possibly can because why wouldn't they?
And they're going to say, well, no, you guys are paying for everything.
We're not doing subsidies.
We're not doing percentages.
If you guys want us to go down there and get the oil out of the ground and start pumping it and get it to market, you're going to pay for the entire infrastructure.
And then they'll probably ask for some other legal coverage or insurance to be paid for as well.
Again, because why wouldn't they?
They have all the leverage in this situation.
Trump is desperate.
America's desperate.
The war is not going to stop.
And you see, this is what the Venezuela capture of Maduro was all about the whole time.
They lied to you.
You were lied to.
But that wasn't the only deal.
Trump officials broke a massive U.S.-Venezuela gold deal.
So they're going to be purchasing a lot of gold.
Venezuela's state-owned mining company on Monday inked a multi-million dollar deal to sell as many as 1,000 kilograms of gold destined for U.S. markets.
Two sources familiar with the deal tell Axios.
The gold deal requires state-owned Minervan to furnish 650 to 1,000 kilos of gold door bars to the commodities trader Trafigura, according to one of its sources.
You know what?
Let me look at this real quick.
Let me look something up real quick.
Man, oh, man, I got to – I shouldn't have opened my phone.
I got so much stuff incoming on my phone.
I'm trying to focus on a show here, guys.
But we got breaking news, I see.
I just want to look something up because I think I saw this today.
I don't see it.
I was seeing what the precious metals markets were doing today, but nothing really to report there.
So, gold deal, oil deal.
I don't know what the purpose of the gold deal is.
Maybe because Fort Knox has no gold in it and we need to find something to put in there.
So, there you go.
now here's on the other side here's what's going on on the other side of this china urges refiners to suspend fuel exports amid mid-east wars Sources say.
So, China's going to keep everything internal now.
They're going to keep everything domestic.
Which, I mean, in the larger scheme of the war, it tells me they kind of just want to stay out of it.
I don't think they're interested in getting into it at all.
So, whoever, whether it's Iran or anybody, is looking for help, I think China's just going to say no.
And that's typically their foreign policy, unless they can cut deals.
But this will also affect oil prices.
This will catch up to the market.
China urges refiners to suspend fuel exports.
And you know who this is really going to hurt?
China's Oil Policy Shift 00:02:20
owen shroyer
This is going to hurt our true ally, Japan.
Our real ally, Japan, here.
Japan oil refiners ask the government to tap strategic reserves.
Japan relies on the Middle East for oil.
If Japan was going to go elsewhere to look for oil, they would go to China.
That's now been cut off.
So now Japan has to tap into their strategic reserves because they have no other source.
And obviously, America can't help them because we're not even sure what we're going to do.
And Biden drained our strategic oil reserves, so we don't have that.
And I guess to close out the hour, I'm sure you've heard Christy Noam out as DHS secretary.
Trump announces Senator Mark Wayne Mullen as replacement.
Does he have to leave that Senate seat?
I wonder.
Because right now he's the senator and the head of DHS.
I mean, usually you'd think Oklahoma, you know, not a threat to go blue, but right now, who knows?
Right now, I wouldn't risk a single seat.
So apparently, this was after some phone call today.
It's being reported.
You can see there, Noah made Corey Lewandowski had a contentious call with Trump after Senate hearing.
Now, I look at that and I think, because usually they don't like bringing that name up for other reasons, for other nefarious reasons, Lewandowski's name.
But now all of a sudden they're wanting to talk about it.
I think Noam embarrassed herself at that hearing.
And I think the whole deportation thing is now becoming a disaster.
And so Trump is just looking for the person to fire and blame it on.
And I'm wondering if this isn't going to be the trend.
I'm starting to feel like we might see a trend now as Trump's approval ratings tank and the policies are not going so well that he's just going to start firing people.
Why They're Suddenly Talking About It 00:05:57
owen shroyer
Now, I don't know if you can do Pete Hegseth in the middle of all of this.
Firing Pam Bondi seems like that would be the move, but even that would look bad right now.
But I wouldn't be surprised if there's some others that get the axe in the aftermath of all of this.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
We're going to come back with the war coverage.
We're going to come back and look at some of the latest developments, statements from Congress, statements from Trump, what's happening in the Iran war.
First hour of the Owen report in the books.
We'll be right back.
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Political Compass Pit 00:02:34
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Political Compass.
The Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
owen shroyer
All right, there's so many moving parts right now in this Iran war.
Let's get into what we already have on the desk.
And if there are any developments, well, there are developments, but let's go with what we already have on the docket first.
Let's start with Pope Leo.
And, you know, I was supportive of Pope Leo right out of the gates.
And that's, you know, I've kind of reached this point.
Tell me how many people agree.
I've kind of reached this point where, and maybe it's because we're not in an election, a presidential election cycle.
Maybe it's because the right wing establishment has gone right back to neocon warmongers.
But I have a lot more, I'm not as quick to sit here and just discount somebody anymore because they're on the left side of an issue or the liberal side of an issue.
And so I see the Pope, you know, he's had some leftist liberal takes.
And so people just discount everything because of that.
But I've liked a lot of the things he's had to say.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he said.
It doesn't mean I have to support everything he said.
But it's just like this whole, it used to be that the left was in the moral pit.
It used to be that the liberal progressive left was in the moral pit.
But now the neocon right is right down there in the moral pit, too.
So it's like there's no difference.
Anyway, that's just kind of how I'm feeling.
Because I see this left-right paradigm matrix that has just completely destroyed people's ability to think critically, like just destroyed it.
So I can't do that.
I'm not going to do that.
There's issues that we need to focus on, not left-right paradigms.
Now, so here's the Pope.
Why We Left The Moral Pit 00:14:23
owen shroyer
We all know what this message is about.
How can you not like it?
pope leo xiv
Would you imagine what a world without wars would be like?
A world without the terror of approaching explosions, without rocket alarms shattering the silence of the night.
Please join me this month in prayer for disarmament and peace.
Let's pray and share with others.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Thank you, Pope Leo.
We will pray for peace.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Now, some of these updates that I'm talking about, and Hegzeth is going live right now.
Maybe we should pick this up.
But apparently, Tel Aviv has just been struck.
And there are also reports that there could be U.S. jets that got hit.
I don't know if that's confirmed or not yet.
These are things that are just coming into me.
Perhaps we'll pick up Pete Hegzeth live before we go into our stack.
And let's see if anything.
Let's see if anything noteworthy is being reported here from Hegseth before we get back into our news.
pete hegseth
Over the skies we fly over and seas we fly over.
Our forces are executing with unmatched skill, and the mission is advancing decisively.
This is the kind of no-nonsense, results-driven war fighting that America demands.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
So that's just going to be pure propaganda.
I'm going to go ahead and just not force my audience to listen to pure propaganda from Pete Hegseth.
If anything of note comes out of that, we'll bring it up to you.
But yeah, that's just pure scripted propaganda.
So not interested.
Let's get into something real.
Let's get into something real.
This is the sister of Declane Cody, who was killed in the Iran war.
This is her reacting with the media to this news.
keira coady
I still don't fully think it's real.
I didn't think it was real when they told us.
Because I just remember all of our conversations about what he was going to do when he came back.
And so I'll just be sitting and thinking about it.
And then I know, it's just, it's really hard.
And I didn't have like the same phone call like this weekend that my dad and like my brother did.
So I just really wish I got to tell my love him one more time because he was just so amazing.
owen shroyer
Just brutal.
Just brutal.
And totally unnecessary.
Total political corruption.
total foreign interest, special interest war, breaks my heart.
Breaks my heart.
And that's why it's like it all becomes this political thing.
It all becomes like this political debate, this left versus right political debate.
And it just, it ticks me off.
And it's just like you, you realize that Americans are about to start coming home in body bags, right?
Like, you know, that's happening.
These are real Americans.
And we were supposed to be done.
We were supposed to be done dying in the Middle East.
Trump told us we were done spilling blood and treasure in the Middle East.
And now here we are doing it again.
And so I, you know, that's what it's like.
I don't want to hear about your left-right bullcrap.
I don't want to hear about your left-right bullcrap.
I don't care what names you call me.
That's real.
That's not about the left.
That's not about the right.
That's about we were lied to.
That's about our military is fighting wars.
Our men and women are fighting and dying.
Our people are paying for it.
And it's all foreign and special interests.
And everybody knows it now.
It's never been more obvious, and I just cannot believe that people are celebrating it.
And it's never the ones that are there.
Isn't it nice?
It's never the ones that are there.
It's funny.
I see the attacks on me.
Say, oh, we like war now.
You're just a big pussy.
Says you from his couch on social media.
Oh, look at you, Owen.
You're just a one-trick pony, says the guy whose only trick is supporting Trump, whatever he says.
Now, apparently, Pete Hegseth is addressing...
He's telling people not to trust what they see on the internet, which is probably fair.
There's a lot of fake stuff that goes around.
But see, now you notice what's happening here.
All the tactics, all the tactics that Israel uses, we now use.
All the same lies, all the same propaganda.
So, I mean, that's kind of a telltale sign of who's really running things here.
So, no, they don't want you to know the truth.
They don't want you to know what's really going on because it looks so bad on them.
Just like with Israel in Gaza and now Lebanon and even in Israel now, where they don't let people record the actual damage because they're going around and telling the Western media.
They're going around telling everybody in America, oh, Tel Aviv is good.
We're not getting hit.
We're all winning.
Meanwhile, the Israelis are in bunkers, and Tel Aviv just got bombed again.
Unbelievable stuff you're about to see here.
Unbelievable stuff.
Let's start with the president, or excuse me, this is the dean of Regent University, Michelle Bachmann.
I'm sure you've heard of her before.
Regent University is a Christian school.
Here she is talking about this war.
michele bachmann
And so I commend Donald Trump.
I commend Benjamin Netanyahu.
I truly believe, Greg, maybe we can talk about that a little later, but I truly believe that God ordained these two men to be the leaders of those nations at this exact time for this exact purpose.
We've all been given an opportunity to bless Israel.
If we bless Israel, like I believe President Trump is doing now, then we will be blessed.
I truly believe America is going to be blessed from this effort.
And likewise, if we turn our back on Israel and curse them, then we're cursed as a nation.
And the Bible bears that out.
Again, there's only one criterion upon which nations are judged.
That's how nations treat Zion.
So at this moment, we have to do everything we can to ensure that President Trump has a House and a Senate that will work with him to advance peace and prosperity in America by being pro-Israel.
So that's why the primary is extremely important.
unidentified
Right.
It's the golden age, but it's not just America's golden age.
It's actually the golden age for the world.
michele bachmann
And so.
owen shroyer
Have you ever seen worse boomer slop in your life?
Have you ever seen worse right-wing boomer slop in your life?
Should we break this down piece by piece and explain how absolutely ridiculous everything she just said is, how absolutely absurd everything she just said is?
Let's go ahead.
Let's go ahead and break this down bit by bit so that we can just see what an absolutely outrageous brainwashing campaign these people are on.
michele bachmann
I commend Donald Trump.
I commend Benjamin Netanyahu.
I truly believe, Greg, maybe we can talk about that a little later, but I truly believe that God ordained these two men to be the leaders of those nations.
owen shroyer
So, this is a Christian woman saying that God ordained Netanyahu and Trump.
Now, you want to say jury is out on Trump?
Fine.
It's not on Netanyahu.
Netanyahu has been lying to America for 30 plus years.
Netanyahu's lies have cost America trillions of dollars and thousands of lives in the Middle East.
These are indisputable facts.
Netanyahu is currently on a campaign of death all over the Middle East: Lebanon, Jordan, Gaza, you name it, everywhere.
A campaign of death.
And now, Trump has just launched a war in Iran that could result in tens of thousands of more dead.
So she is saying God ordained Netanyahu and Trump to kill people so that people could die.
Innocent people, civilians, children.
Tell me what's Christian about that.
Tell me how that is Christian at all.
Honestly, I tell you, this is so sick.
It's so sick.
It shakes your very foundations.
It shakes your very faith when you hear supposed Christians talking like this.
It makes me sick.
It makes me want nothing to do with anything that they claim is Christianity.
It's unreal.
I can't even fathom this level of brainwashing.
So, so that's that's Christian now is supporting war and death.
And that's God ordained war and death in the Middle East, according to this Christian.
And the host here shakes his head like, Yeah, that's good.
What is wrong with these people?
Seriously, are these?
What is wrong with these people?
Are these people, are these even humans?
Are these aliens?
Are these reptiles?
What is this?
michele bachmann
At this exact time, for this exact purpose, we've all been given an opportunity to bless Israel.
owen shroyer
If we bless Israel, like I believe, President, if this is Israel of God, why do we have to bless it?
Why do I have to bless Israel?
God can bless Israel.
I don't need to bless Israel.
michele bachmann
President Trump is doing now, then we so there it is.
owen shroyer
Yeah, this whole thing is about Israel.
Trump is for Israel.
Our government is for Israel.
All the right-wingers are for Israel.
So if you're for America, you don't count.
You're bad now.
So being pro-America doesn't count.
There's no MAGA.
There's no America first.
Really, we don't even have a country.
The entire purpose of America is to serve Israel.
They're just outing it all.
Don't you know the entire purpose of you in American is to be a slave for Israel?
That's your blessing.
That's your purpose.
michele bachmann
How insulting will be blessed.
I truly believe America is going to be blessed from this.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah, just like we've been blessed for the last 30 years with everything in our country declining, our education system, our fertility rates, our health, our country, our cities, our infrastructure, all of it decaying.
This is what we get for blessing Israel.
No, Israel is a damn parasite on our backs, and everybody can see it except you brainwashed boomers.
michele bachmann
This effort, and likewise, if we turn our back on Israel and curse them, then we're cursed as a nation.
And the Bible.
owen shroyer
We've been cursed since we invited Israel into our house and given them everything that they want.
We've been nothing but cursed.
michele bachmann
In case you haven't noticed, bears that out again.
There's only one criterion upon which nations are judged.
That's how nations treat Zion.
So at this moment, you're a slave for Israel.
owen shroyer
They don't even hide it.
They want you to be a slave for Israel.
This is their ideology.
michele bachmann
We have to do everything we can to ensure that President Trump has a House and a Senate that will work with him to advance peace and now.
owen shroyer
How ironic is that statement?
What perfect irony.
Talk about a paradox.
We need to do everything we can so that Republicans maintain the House and the Senate so that we can continue to support Israel.
So again, you're a slave for Israel.
That's your entire purpose as an American is to be a slave for Israel.
But the paradox is that that's the exact attitude that's going to lose Republicans the House and the Senate.
You really think that's a winning message?
You really think even right-wing conservative young men, young conservative women, you think that that's a message they want to hear?
Hey, young American, you've watched your country serve Israel's interests for 30 years and you've seen nothing but your country decline.
So you need to be reminded that you're a slave for Israel.
And this is your entire purpose, by the way.
And we need to make sure that Republicans win the House and the Senate so that we can continue on this righteous purpose of you being a slave for Israel.
And of course, that's the exact message that is going to lose the midterms.
That's the exact message.
Talk about a paradox.
michele bachmann
Prosperity in America by prosperity in America.
owen shroyer
Nothing but decline since we've sold out to Israel.
michele bachmann
Pro-Israel.
So that's why primary is extremely important.
unidentified
Right.
It's the golden age, but it's not just a.
owen shroyer
It's the golden age.
For who?
Regime Change War Concerns 00:16:06
owen shroyer
For who?
All economic metrics are not good for Americans.
None.
Where is this golden age you speak of?
Unreal level of boomer brainwashing on display.
Unreal.
And you know, it's like the same thing.
I don't do these blanket statements.
I'm not here for tribal warfare.
I know there's plenty of people in that age group in my audience, my parents.
They're not bad people.
Not everybody agrees with this.
But it's like the same thing.
It's like, just because I criticize Israel has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.
It's like, just because I sit here and I notice that these boomers, these right-wing boomers that are responsible for the total decay and destruction of our country and they still haven't learned anything, what I can't, it's just let's just move on.
So, but this is what they support.
It's all, it's all the end, it's all the military-industrial complex.
It's all profit for blood.
Defense giant Elbit becomes Israel's most valuable company after 45% surge this year.
Yeah, death and destruction pays.
That's Christian now.
That's Christian now.
That's the golden age now.
Bathed in blood.
You Christians that support this are soaked in the blood of the innocent.
It's funny, too, because Trump goes up there.
He says, Yeah, I'm probably not getting into heaven.
It's like even Trump knows that all the blood-soaked, this is his blood-soaked administration now.
He's like, Yeah, I'm probably not going to heaven.
I just caused another 100,000 people to die, probably.
So I'm not here to judge.
I'm not here to judge, but I'll tell you, I'm going to feel a lot more comfortable meeting my maker, knowing that I didn't support profit for death and destruction.
I'm going to be a lot more comfortable when I'm headed to meet my maker, knowing that I'm not going to be bathed in the blood of the innocent like these people are.
Oh, and we got Cuba now.
We got Cuba now.
Trump says he'll help pick Iran's leader.
So it's not a regime change war, but it's a regime change war, and we're going to choose who their next leader is.
And now he's saying there's going to be regime change in Cuba, too.
So what's going on in Cuba?
We're doing it all.
The American way of life continues to suffer, but don't worry.
We got regime change all over the world.
And we're about to hit, by the end of the night, $6 billion on this new Iran war.
$6 billion.
And I don't even think these costs, these costs are going to go up.
It'll be by the end of next week, maybe by the end of this week, it'll be by, I would say by Monday, when the Owen report goes live on Monday at 3 o'clock p.m. Central, this number will likely be at $10 million, excuse me, $10 billion.
$10 billion.
Isn't that nice?
Boy, what could we do with $10 billion for the American people?
It doesn't matter.
It's for war.
Doesn't matter.
It's for foreign interests.
Doesn't matter.
It's for Israel.
It's going to be $10 billion by the end of Monday.
And that metric that they're using this, the Pentagon says this war is costing Americans $1 billion a day.
Now, Hegzeth says we're going to be manning the heirs 24/7, so the price is only going to go up.
They're going to have to buy more missiles.
They're going to have to buy more weapons.
They're going to have to do all kinds of stuff.
So this price, this is like the low price right now.
The current rate that we're paying for this war is as low as it's going to get.
It's only going to go up.
It'll by next week, it'll probably be a billion and a half per day.
So you have to pay taxes.
You have to be a wage slave.
You have to pay 33% of your work.
And the war, they just print money for war.
They just print money.
The money isn't even real.
They just print it.
But you're still a good slave paying taxes.
Hope you follow your taxes or the IRS is coming to arrest you.
Now, how ironic is this?
You can't even believe it.
And this is another one of those guys that is just full Magatard.
This was October 1st, 2024.
Kamala said that President Trump would get us into a war with Iran.
She was projecting.
Now, Trump has got us into a war with Iran.
I said this yesterday, just to be clear, on the reply when I found this.
Wow.
This is how down bad this Trump administration is.
They proved Kamala Harris right.
The Trump administration is down so bad that they proved Kamala Harris right.
And all of these same people, like this guy, all of these same people that said Trump would not get us into a war with Iran.
That's a lie.
Now all of them support the war with Iran.
Total frauds.
But is it a war?
See, you're not allowed to say it's a war because if you say it's a war, then Trump is going to have to get impeached because he broke the law to start the war.
But everybody knows it's a war.
So let's go to the congressmen and women talking about this.
Democrat Jack Reed.
jack reed
Their loss is a grievous loss to all of us, particularly to their family.
So at this moment, we have to consider their mothers, their fathers, their spouses, and thank them also for the sacrifice.
But it's the cost of war, and it's a real cost.
owen shroyer
It's the cost of war.
So we're at war.
He says with a Ukraine flag lapel pin on, a total traitor.
So it's a war.
Amazing.
But, you know, Jack, That wasn't all he had to say about the war.
What else did he have to say?
michele bachmann
Will you vote to authorize this war?
jack reed
Because, Fred, I will vote to invoke the War Powers Act, which would give the president 30 days to terminate the operation, except for activities defending the state of Israel.
owen shroyer
Oh, so we can break the law as long as it's for Israel.
I don't support the war unless it's for Israel, but it's not for Israel, by the way.
It's just everybody says it's for Israel.
It's never been more obvious it's for Israel, but it's not for Israel and it's not a war.
Who falls for this crap?
Only the dumbest people in our country.
Only total political retards, brainwashed idiots, cult members.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to be insulting, but it is true.
Senator Ron Johnson, will there be boots on the ground?
unidentified
Why isn't the administration calling this a regime change war?
ron johnson
Because we're not going to usher in the regime.
We're not going to put boots on the ground, probably.
unidentified
Okay.
I know Ron Johnson, who's like one of the good ones.
owen shroyer
I mean, you have to grade politicians on a curve.
You do.
unidentified
It's what it is.
owen shroyer
You have to grade politicians on a curve because otherwise they all get an F, except maybe like 10.
There's maybe like 10 politicians that aren't failing the American people.
So you grade them on a curve.
Ron Johnson is like one of the better ones.
I mean, listen to this absolute slop.
unidentified
Administration calling this a regime change war.
ron johnson
Because we're not going to usher in the regime.
owen shroyer
So, okay, we know why you can't call it a war because then Trump is acting illegally and will be impeached.
And you don't want to say it's a regime change because we ran against regime change.
Republicans were supposed to be against regime change.
And he says, well, we're not doing regime change.
And then Trump literally comes out and says, yeah, we're doing regime change.
I'm going to decide who leads the next regime.
I mean, it's just, it's crazy, man.
It's crazy.
ron johnson
We're not going to put boots on the ground, probably.
owen shroyer
Oh, we're not going to put boots on the ground.
Well, probably.
So in other words, it is a regime change war, and we will be putting boots on the ground.
And we lied to every single one of you.
And any American that supports this is a brainwashed cult member.
I'm fed up.
I told you my nice days were getting limited on this, guys.
I told you my nice, my nice guys, my nice, my nice days were getting limited on this now.
So I don't mean to be so insulting, but I told you, I told you my nice days were up.
Okay, is it a war?
Republican Senator James Langford.
Right now, well, literally, we're at a war with Iraq.
Okay, there you go.
So it's a war.
All right, uh, Senator Kevin Kramer, what does he think about this war?
ben swann
Clad partners, we need them in the Middle East, we need them to be strong.
We have a biblical responsibility to them as well as an allied responsibility to Israel.
owen shroyer
We have a biblical responsibility to Israel.
The United States taxpayer, the United States citizen, has a biblical responsibility to Israel.
I can't believe this.
I can't believe this.
And then there's one of the worst of all time, Senator Lindsey Graham.
I can't imagine what they have him doing on tape.
Let's see what he has to say.
ben swann
Is the U.S. at war senator?
pete hegseth
Why do we not have an undeclared state of war?
owen shroyer
Anytime we're in Kill Osaw, we're in an undeclared state of war.
That's the new one.
Undeclared state of war.
unidentified
Soldier at war.
Go tell the families of the victims that ID we're not at war with.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, we're not the ones telling them that.
So we are at war.
This is a war.
We are at war.
Trump broke the law.
He's going to be impeached.
All of you lied to us.
All of you are war criminals.
All of you are traitors.
This is an illegal war.
And Trump totally betrayed us.
And now U.S. soldiers are dead.
And there will be more.
And now Americans will pay the price for this war, this illegal war that we were lied to about.
But certainly Trump understands he can't call it a war, right?
I have to go back and look at the war.
unidentified
You know, I have a lot of things happening.
owen shroyer
So even Trump says it's a war.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
So the Iranian spokesperson here, Iran's former, Iran's foreign minister did another interview with NBC News.
And as it's being talked about boots on the ground in Iran, he was asked about this.
Here's what he said.
tom llamas
Boots on the ground in Iran.
Are you afraid of a U.S. invasion in your country?
abbas araghchi
No, we are waiting for them.
tom llamas
You are waiting for the U.S. military to invade the ground troops?
abbas araghchi
Yes, because we are confident that we can confront them, and that would be a big disaster for them.
tom llamas
So you're saying that Iran is ready and willing to take on the U.S. military if there were to be ground troops?
abbas araghchi
Well, we were ready for this war even more than the previous war.
So you can see the quality of our missiles, how much they are upgraded after the last war, because we learned lots of lessons and we are prepared for any other eventuality, even a ground invasion.
So our soldiers are prepared for any scenario.
When I said we are waiting for them, it didn't mean that we are waiting for continuation of the war.
No, but we have prepared ourselves to confront with any scenario, with any eventuality, any possibility, and we know that we can handle that.
tom llamas
Are your allies, are your allies Russia and China helping you?
abbas araghchi
Well, they are supporting us politically and otherwise.
owen shroyer
Now, I'm not telling you who to trust, who not to trust.
I'm bringing you this news, but I will say, I don't like this.
Let's replay this real quickly.
tom llamas
Are you afraid of a U.S. invasion in your country?
abbas araghchi
No, we are waiting for them.
tom llamas
You are waiting for the U.S. military to invade the ground troops?
abbas araghchi
Yes, because we are confident that we can confront them, and that would be a big disaster for them.
tom llamas
So, you're saying that Iran is ready and willing to take on the U.S. military if there were to be ground troops?
abbas araghchi
Well, we were ready for this war even more than I don't like this at all.
owen shroyer
I don't like this at all.
I don't like this at all.
I don't like where it's going.
Boots on the ground in Iran would be beyond a disaster.
Again, I'm not saying this guy's being honest or bluffing or whatever, but how is this going to go?
Are we going to go through the mountains?
Are they in the mountains?
Is our intelligence as far as their capabilities even up to date?
Is it even accurate?
So far, we've obviously been lied to by our Israeli intelligence.
They lied to us about where an IRGC base was.
It ended up being a school.
So you know that the intelligence we're getting from Israel is bad.
At least some of it.
I don't like this one bit.
If we go in there, troops are going to die.
But my concern is they might just decide to forego it and just drop a bomb that most of us have never seen before in our lives.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
It's unbelievable watching so-called Christians support this, watching so-called MAGA support this when it was totally opposite of what we voted for.
It's just unreal.
It's unreal.
I'm stunned because this does not look like it's ending anytime soon.
And now apparently, the Pentagon is reporting they're anticipating this to go to at least September.
What are we talking about here?
What are we talking about?
What are we doing?
And of course, we all know.
We all know exactly what it is.
Our government, which is bought, paid for, and blackmailed and brainwashed by Israel.
This is all for Israel.
I mean, let's just say it.
And I know, again, I've said this before.
I don't even blame Netanyahu.
Israel's Exploitation 00:15:49
owen shroyer
I wish we had leaders that cared about our country.
Netanyahu is trying to leave himself a legacy.
He wants to build Israel.
I mean, he's basically Israel's Hitler.
I mean, let's just be honest.
Netanyahu is Israel's Hitler.
He is the number one ethno-nationalist supremacist in the world today.
Netanyahu is Israel's Hitler, and he's behaving just like Hitler.
And he's about to expand the state of Israel.
And eventually, he's going to get to a point like Hitler did where somebody's going to stand up and say enough.
Eventually, that's where this goes.
But I mean, okay, I look at Netanyahu and I'm like, wow, Netanyahu puts Israel first, puts Israel second, and does everything because he probably truly cares about Israel and he truly cares about his legacy as Israel's leader.
So part of me doesn't even blame it.
It's like, yeah, Israel, Netanyahu, they have found a way to leverage the entire power of the United States economically, militarily.
Israel has found a way to leverage our country for their interests.
So I'd be like, okay, well, hey, good for them.
Good job.
I wish our leaders did that.
Instead, our leaders sell us out.
Instead, our leaders have sold us out.
They're bought and paid for and blackmailed.
So it's really like you can't even get mad at Netanyahu.
I mean, I can criticize Israel's foreign policy.
I can criticize what Israel is doing to all of their neighbors and their military.
But at the end of the day, I'm not Israeli.
I'm just an American that's sick of my government that sold me out.
So the world can be mad at Netanyahu for what he's doing.
But at the end of the day, it's our politicians.
At the end of the day, it's our politicians.
It's our leaders.
It's our members of the media.
They sold us out.
They're the bad guys.
Now, I said, this is proof of it, by the way.
Netanyahu expanding into Lebanon now.
What did I say?
I told you European countries.
I told you NATO countries are not going to be on our side on this.
I continue to be proven right.
Now, Macron, for Lebanon, we must act.
I'm going to show you what's going on there in a second.
Everything must be done to prevent this country so close to France from once again being drawn into war.
The Lebanese have a right to peace and security like everyone else in the Middle East.
It is to halt the war and prevent the worst that following my exchanges with President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, I spoke today with Lebanon's highest authorities in order to establish a plan to bring an end to the military operations currently being carried out by Hezbollah and Israel on either side of the border.
Hezbollah must immediately, so just okay, it goes on this long statement.
The point is the French are not going to take our side on this, and they're trying to stop what's happening in Lebanon now.
Israel is expanding into Lebanon.
They're expanding west.
They're expanding north.
They're expanding east.
Honestly, I feel like once they go south, that'll be it.
I'm going to be honest, folks.
I think once Israel expands south, whether it's Egypt or Saudi Arabia, I think that'll be it.
I think that'll be the end of it.
It's clear now that they've got all the leverage.
They own Trump.
They own us.
They're going to be able to get away with whatever they're planning to do in Lebanon and in Jordan and in Gaza and in the West Bank and in the Golan Heights.
They're going to get away with all of it.
They are.
They're going to get away.
They're going to kill a bunch of people, take a bunch of land.
They're going to get it, but they won't be able to help themselves.
It's like a drug addict, won't be able to help themselves.
And they'll try to go into Egypt or they'll try to go into Saudi Arabia and that'll be when it ends.
I think that'll be when it ends.
But, I mean, they're bombing the hell out of Lebanon.
They're moving the Lebanese people out of their country.
Here's an image of all of them.
This is the result of Israel bombing the hell out of South Lebanon and then moving all the Lebanese people out.
So they're just standing around.
They have nowhere to go.
They're much like the Palestinians.
So Israel is going to Palestine millions of people.
Israel is going to Palestine millions and millions of people, all of their neighbors.
But eventually, when they go for Egypt and eventually when they go for Saudi Arabia, I think that's when it ends.
I think that's when people are finally going to step up and stop this expansion of Israel.
And then who knows what happens after that?
But I told you, I told you the European countries were not going to join us in this war.
Everyone said, oh, it'll be America and Europe and Israel versus everyone else.
I said, don't think Europe's getting involved.
You got that one wrong.
Italy backs Gulf partners, rules out entering Middle East war.
So Italy is telling their Gulf nation state friends that they're going to help them whatever they need, but they're not getting involved in whatever Israel wants them to do.
Now, this gets a little deeper, but look at this.
Look at this New York Times headline.
An emboldened Israel is seizing opportunities to remake region.
With the war against Iran underway and the U.S. military as a powerful ally, yeah, the U.S. military does Israel's bidding.
The Israeli government is seizing its chance to move against other adversaries.
Yeah, they're expanding, just as I said, just as everyone said.
This is their expansion.
Now, yesterday, we talked about how all of these Gulf nation states, you know, earlier this week, we mentioned it, but I said, I want to wait till some of the dust settles.
And then yesterday I said, it looks like some of the dust is starting to settle here.
And we covered the story out of Cyprus, out of Turkey.
And it was, okay, these countries that they're claiming Iran attacked, I don't think they're going to believe it was Iran.
And now it's starting, the dust is starting to settle.
Saudi journalists say not all attacks on golf are coming from Iran, fears U.S.-Israel dragging monarchies into war.
And so there's these people coming out of Saudi Arabia now, and they're mad because they feel betrayed by Israel.
They feel betrayed by Trump.
They feel betrayed by the Board of Peace.
It said, we're not going to do this.
We're not going to drag you into this.
And now they're getting hit by missiles, these Gulf nation states that they told they would be left out.
The deal was: hey, we're going to let Israel do what it wants to the north.
All right.
We're going to let Israel do what it wants to the north.
We're going to leave you guys out of it.
So the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, you guys are going to be left alone.
You won't get drug into this, but you guys are going to let Israel take all of this other land up north and east and west.
And you're just going to let that happen, but we'll let you out of it.
You guys want to be an economic powerhouse?
You want to be tourist hubs?
You want to kind of be into the new Western world in a way, in your own way.
Okay.
So you turn the other head, you turn the other way when Israel does its stuff.
You'll stay out of it.
That was the deal.
Now they're getting bombed and they don't believe it's Iran because it makes no sense.
Why would Iran want to create more enemies right now?
Why would Iran want the entire world aimed against him?
So all of these Gulf nation states now are looking at Trump and Netanyahu and they're saying, did we just get lied to?
Did we just get played?
And now we're getting drug into this war.
We don't think this is Iran bombing us.
So watch out for that.
A statement from the Ministry of Defense in the UK.
Same thing.
The Ministry of Defense can confirm that a Sahad-like drone, which targeted RAF Akrotiri at midnight on March 2nd, was not launched from Iran.
Do you understand?
This is why we opened the show with that story, folks.
Trump has betrayed all of them.
Trump and Netanyahu lied to every single person.
And they've been playing.
You know, they've been playing good guy.
They've been playing friendly.
They've been playing like, okay, everything is still good.
Now their countries are getting bombed and they're being told it's Iran.
And then they find out it's not Iran.
And I'm telling you, the patience is running thin here, guys.
Trump, you think it was, oh, huh?
You think Trump just stabbed you in the back?
You think Trump just betrayed you?
He just betrayed a bunch of his so-called allies and friends in the Gulf Nation states.
Honestly, I can't even believe it.
It's like, is Trump being set up for this?
Are people setting him up?
Like, how can it be this bad?
Honestly, how can it be this bad?
Like, I hope the deal was at least.
Like, I hope we got something out of this deal.
I hope that at least Trump was like, hey, okay, look, we'll do all this, but can you guys not false flag us this time?
Can you guys just not blow something up in America?
Can you not false flag America this time?
It's like, we'll do all your bidding.
Just don't blow a bunch of Americans up this time.
Like, can we at least get that out of it?
It's like that might be the least, that might be the only thing we get out of this.
And I'm wondering if even that happens now because these are all liars.
I mean, these are all criminals.
But hey, Trump will end up being isolated with Netanyahu.
Trump demands immediate pardon for Netanyahu to focus on Iran.
I can't believe it's this bad, honestly.
I really can't.
I'm really curious because it's all so insane.
I'm curious where the Q people are at.
Is this save Israel for last?
Is that where we're at?
Do they still believe that?
Because I mean, it's just, it's so bad now, it doesn't make any sense, honestly.
It's how bad it is.
And then there's Ukraine.
Don't forget about that.
We're still invested there.
So apparently we need Ukraine's help now.
Oh, yeah, things are looking really good.
We're calling Zelensky for help.
U.S. asked Ukraine for help fighting Iranian drones, Zelensky said.
Zelensky said the U.S. is calling him to try to help fight this war right now.
He's mad because he's not even getting support from the United States anymore in the war with Russia that he was promised they'd help fight till the end.
And now he's like, what?
Now you're calling me for help?
I can't even get help.
And then here's the extent of this new war in Iran.
More Patriot missiles used in the Middle East in three days than in Ukraine since 2022, Zelensky says.
So he's mad because now Israel is getting more support than Ukraine got.
And he's double mad because now the U.S. is calling Ukraine for help.
And then they say, oh, well, we've got so much.
We got more than anybody else.
I'm not so sure, folks.
I'm not so sure we're not depleted.
I'm not so sure.
Zelensky says Trump is using up all his missiles on Iran and risks leaving Ukraine short against Putin.
Oh, what do you know?
Now, again, that was never our war anyway.
I never supported that anyway, but we just got robbed on that deal.
I mean, we're just being hollowed out.
The United States just being hollowed out for foreign interests.
Now, let's look at some of this propaganda.
You guys remember all of those Iranians in Los Angeles?
You guys remember all the Iranians celebrating the attacks in Los Angeles?
Did you guys remember that?
Yeah.
Check this out.
Many Iranian Jews in Tehran Angeles say their allegiance is to Israel, not Iran.
unidentified
Oh!
owen shroyer
With closer religious and cultural ties to Israel and a contempt for extremist Iranian regime now in power, they're joining counter-protesters.
So the so-called Iranians with their fresh flag, it was all propaganda.
It was literally all bought and paid for propaganda.
Many Iranian Jews in Tehran Angeles say their allegiance is to Israel, not Iran.
There you go.
Isn't that nice?
Isn't that nice?
And now you've got CBS running their propaganda.
CBS News, Israeli Defense Forces Brigadier General tells CBS that Israel's fight against Iran is aimed at preventing a wider global threat as concerns grow over a prolonged conflict.
Yes, the whole world is going to die if you don't support Israel.
They're the good guys.
That's CBS, Barry Weiss, Larry Ellison running that propaganda.
CBS again, Israeli president to CBS.
I must make clear, Israel does not dictate to President Trump anything and Israel does not drag America into war.
The amount of times they have to say it almost makes you think that's exactly what's going on.
And they have to do it on CBS, the new Israel propaganda front.
And let's not forget about those paid protesters, those paid social media people.
Israel's online propaganda network unravels as influencers sue Tel Aviv over unpaid contracts.
You stupid goy.
You stupid goyum.
The lawsuits expose Israel's so-called eighth front, a digital effort to influence global opinion in support of Israel and vilify those opposing the genocide in Gaza.
You stupid gom.
And one of the bigger accounts that was doing this was Azalea Banks.
She came out and admitted it.
She says, I got paid.
It's not 7K per post, but I deaf got paid for every Israel mention.
Even the troll posts are paid.
Covid and Conspiracy Unraveled 00:15:27
owen shroyer
So remember, they said it was fake.
They said it was fake news.
Oh, it was true.
Hold on.
It was true.
What do you know?
Obviously, it was true.
Check out this headline from the New York Post.
GOP Senator Tim Sheehy helps Capitol Police remove protester who allegedly injured three cops and appeared to break his own arm.
I mean, this is crazy.
Injured three cops and broke his own arm.
That's quite a headline.
Now, why would Tim Sheehy, why would Tim Sheehy be such a warmonger?
Why would he support the war so much?
Oh, check this out.
Scrutiny of Republican Tim Sheehy's business grows amid U.S. Senate race.
Brigadier Aerospace secured $160 million for defense contracts.
Wow.
So, okay.
This is a story here about all the money they were getting, but well, you might say this is this article's from 2024.
So it doesn't matter.
Bridger Aerospace getting a deal.
That's from 2024.
Oh, wait.
This story is from two days ago.
Bridger Aerospace secures $18.6 million five-year contract in Alaska for U.S. Department of the Interior.
Oh, so maybe that's why old Senator Shay loves these wars so much.
I don't know.
You always follow the money, right?
Well, there's one great reporter who can probably tell you that.
His name is Ben Swan.
He's coming up on the other side of this break.
Really looking forward to this conversation.
We're going to go back in time and talk about the crazy world that was Pizzagate.
We're going to talk about how the backdrop of that with all the Epstein files is making it even crazier.
We're going to talk about the journey between network news, independent news, maybe get into some of the current developments as well.
The great Ben Swan coming up on the other side of this short break.
unidentified
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THE OWEN
Report with Owen Schroer.
owen shroyer
So, I don't know if you guys saw this, but the Trump post about the trans surgeries, they just remade the entire thing.
They erased the original post, and now Trump is once again against trans surgeries for minors.
So, all right, I guess that's a win.
That was a weird battle we didn't anticipate for today, but there you go.
We got one.
All right, Ben Swan joins me now.
And I want to get into the history of Pizzagate with Ben, everything he went through, and then kind of how that was a backdrop for the Epstein files.
Ben, it's a tremendous honor to be joined by you today.
And I'm glad you're on the show.
ben swann
Great to be with you, OHA.
owen shroyer
I want to talk about, for people that don't know, because you know, you've been around in political media long enough, you know, that kind of every election cycle, the landscape changes, the names, the faces change.
A lot of people that are really involved right now in politics were not in 2016.
Maybe they weren't, let's say, you know, conspiracy theorists.
So they see some of this outside the line stuff.
They don't really follow it, but it was very real.
And maybe, would it be accurate?
I guess I would ask it like this: would it be accurate to say for you, it was the first time in your professional media career where, say, the conspiracy theory world kind of met the real world?
ben swann
I've never been asked that before.
So let me think about it for a second.
That's a great question.
Maybe not, because I had since 2012, so about four years before that, had really started covering Ron Paul and his campaign and trying to understand kind of blowback and the Iraq war stuff.
And I had actually done a lot of reporting on 9-11, the third building that fell.
I was actually the first reporter to do a series on that third building coming down.
So I'd already been smeared for that.
So maybe not.
No, Pizzagate, I wouldn't say was.
I would say Pizzagate was the biggest story to see.
It's like kicking a hornet's nest, right?
There are a lot of stories, a lot of conspiracies you can go out there and cover.
You can talk about them.
You don't really get the kind of reaction that you get from that one.
And Pizzagate was the story that when it was covered, when we kind of kicked that hornet's nest, what came out of there was wild.
And so I think it was the first one to catch me off guard the way that it did.
You get smeared.
You know this, Owen.
You get smeared for everything you say.
And it's only gotten worse over the years.
But you can be smeared for lots of stories.
This wasn't a smearing, right?
This was a full-on attempt to destroy my life, to destroy my career.
I saw them come after me in ways that I had not imagined that they would.
So, yeah, it was definitely a huge awakening to when you get too close to something that's really volatile like that, the reaction is very different, if that makes sense.
owen shroyer
Well, the reason why I ask is that was kind of how I got into political media.
I was a sports guy.
And when the Boston Marathon bombing happened, it was the first, I was a young guy, but it was the first time where kind of the sports world and the current events news world had a crossing.
And to me, it was wild to witness that for the first time because you could, I never watched news.
I never followed press conferences.
And it was like watching that.
I was like, okay, something is off here.
And then eventually you watch it long enough, you realize you're just being lied to all the time.
So it's kind of like a lights on moment.
And then I made the switch from sports to politics.
And now here I am talking to you.
So that's kind of why I was wondering that.
But I guess, you know, at the time, isn't it what's crazy about it?
And I don't know if you could compare it like it's cyclical with Building 7 and then Pizzagate and the Epstein files, but it's like Building 7 did fall.
Nothing hit it.
It was clearly a controlled demolition, at least in my opinion.
But at the time, it was like, okay, nobody really talked about it.
Now more people are willing to talk about it.
And then there was Pizzagate.
It was like at the time, not too many people were willing to talk about it.
Now we have the Epstein files in the background.
And it's like, oh, okay, maybe more people are willing to look at that and talk about it.
Are you kind of seeing this interest in like outside the line stories gaining traction where now more people are actually interested in what's going on with the Epstein files than say something that might be more outside the lines, like a Building 7 falling or WikiLeaks Pizzagate emails?
ben swann
Yeah.
No, I think it's a great point.
And I think it is absolutely happening.
I think far more people, tens of millions more people are curious about this stuff that hadn't been before.
I actually would credit COVID really with that more than anything, because I think COVID was the first time that we saw a conspiracy, a true conspiracy unravel in real time.
So we watched the story built around COVID, right?
The masking, it comes from a penguin bought in some kind of a wet market in Wuhan.
And now everyone's got a mask up and six feet apart from each other.
And now we're going to rush a vaccine into existence and we're going to inoculate everyone in the world.
And now a second time and now a third time.
And I think what happened for people, we're going to shut down businesses, right?
And close down the economy.
And there were a lot of people who before that would have said, I don't want to think about conspiracies.
I don't want to think about these ideas of the elites, you know, trying to control the world.
Yeah, right.
They're doing that.
And then when COVID happened, there were, I think, hundreds of millions of people globally who said, something is happening, right?
This is not real.
And they were experiencing that kind of cognitive dissidence of recognizing that they were being told one thing and yet their eyes and their common sense, their ears, they knew this stuff was not true.
And then they were watching people be completely seduced by this concept who became almost cultish in their adherence.
And so for a lot of people, I think there was an awakening that happened where they said, no, this is this is not real.
And so flash forward after COVID, six years, and all of a sudden, when you start talking about, oh, there are elites who run child sex trafficking rings.
Here are the files to prove it.
Are people more likely to believe that?
unidentified
Absolutely.
ben swann
But in part because they watch the elites do this to them.
They watch the elites try to control their lives, dominate entire societies, inoculate the entire world with experimental drugs.
They watched all of this happen.
And so, yeah, I think that's the first group.
The second group that seems to be wildly interested are Gen Z, right?
All these very, very young people who years ago would never have been interested in a conspiracy story.
And they can't get enough of Epstein.
Like they're all about the Epstein files.
And I'm not talking about just what they see on TikTok.
They're going and reading it for themselves.
They're going to the DOJ website and reading through documents and trying to understand it for themselves.
So there is a vast difference in the curiosity of like a Gen Z and millennials than what we see, for instance, with boomers who are still not going to ever really question things or even Gen Xers, which I am one, who wouldn't necessarily be near as curious.
So I think there's a generational thing happening.
And I also believe that's as a result of COVID.
owen shroyer
I love the, we're having the millennial Gen Xer kind of unification happening right now.
Like we're both, we're both in our own way, kind of stubborn, but we've realized it's like, look, it's, it's our time.
It's as Trump, I kind of view as the boomer's last gasp.
We're kind of just letting, we're kind of just letting Gen Z and them kind of do their own thing, figure their own way.
And I feel like Gen X and the millennials are kind of starting to stand up now and put their foot down and say, hold on a second.
Things have gone horribly wrong with the current path of leadership.
We need to go a different direction.
And it's funny, you mentioned the young people.
I've kind of tested this a little bit.
Every once in a while, I'll be around some younger kids, college kids, high school kids.
I like to go play basketball with them sometimes.
And I'll just kind of do like some subtle references just to see where they're at.
And so I would make a couple of jokes.
I'd be like, well, at least I'm not in the Epstein files or Mark safe from the Epstein files.
And they got it.
Like they actually got the joke.
And so I was kind of like, wow, I mean, that doesn't mean they're totally understanding of it, but it's like they have a general sense of awareness.
So it does show that the interest is peaked in these things.
Now, I am curious.
I don't want to go.
I don't want to go all the way back into history and relive the whole Pizzagate thing, but I do kind of want to tie it into the Epstein stuff because what we went through at the time, and the reason why I think it's called Pizzagate is because the code words in the WikiLeaks of pizza and the rest of it, it was like a gateway.
It was like that was the gate opening for us to say, what is this stuff?
So we look at this clearly coded language, whether it's pizza, hot dogs, dominoes, the maps, all of it.
And okay, so we start to look at some of these names.
We start to look at what's on social media.
We look at some of the businesses and stuff.
And it's like, I'm sure it was the same for you.
And then you filed that powerful report.
It was like that theme of pizza kept popping up.
It was like, okay, one time, okay, two times, three times, four, every time.
It's like it was every time.
And it was like, okay, clearly this is something here.
I mean, I just remember for me, it was so much, you almost go crazy.
You almost go crazy because you can't even believe it.
And that's why your report was so powerful because you found a way to just keep it in a very short, consumable context when it's so easy to go crazy.
You kept it very short, very consumable to say, hey, look, forget about your conspiracy theories.
Here's what's in the emails.
Here's what's publicly available.
I tell you what I think, but I think I'm crazy.
What do you think?
ben swann
Yep.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And I think one of the things we tried to do was we tried to stay away from the really the most shocking stuff that was out there as a part of Pizzagate.
It's not actually included in that report.
If you go back and watch it, I mean, all the pictures off Instagram and a lot of the stuff with the pizza owner, James Alephantis, who owned Comet Ping Pong and also Best of Pizza.
People forget that one.
But, you know, we left a lot of that stuff out because it was just, it was too insane for people to be able to understand.
But to your point, the thing about Pizzagate is that I didn't name it.
You didn't name it, right?
The pizza comes back from known pedophile code words, right?
And you can go back to 2006, 2007 to FBI documents where the FBI had documented that this was the terminology that pedophiles were using online to communicate with each other in order to use coded language to talk about child pornography, right?
CP is an acronym.
CP child pornography is the CP for cheese pizza.
And that's where it comes from.
And then out of the pizza analogy for the CP cheese pizza come all these other code words, hot dogs, sauce, pasta, but it all was a derivative that came out of the original way that pedophiles would communicate with each other online through chat rooms or tour browsers.
They would communicate using pizza.
And by the way, again, not only is this not even controversial to say, because you can go back to the FBI documents of 2007, for a decade, FBI has arrested people, tracking them using these words.
This is not shocking or conspiratorial stuff.
owen shroyer
Documented arrests.
That was another thing.
When you go back and you find it, it's like they had documented arrests of pizza shop owners even.
Absolutely.
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unidentified
Right.
ben swann
This is a known way of communication.
So when you say pizza and everyone rolls their eyes, oh no, Pizzagate, like that's crazy.
Why would they use pizza?
Yeah, again, we didn't name it.
We didn't come up with this terminology.
This is the terminology that came from known pedophiles.
After that, what you realize is, okay, so if the pedophiles are using this terminology, it doesn't mean anyone who uses the term pizza is a pedophile.
But you go and start looking at why do people like, for instance, John Podesta, whose emails were given to WikiLeaks who then dumped them online, 50,000 emails, why in his 50,000 emails does he have dozens, if not hundreds of references to pizza and pizza parties and kids related to pizza?
And by the way, none of it's ever like an order for pizza.
None of it's a receipt for pizza.
It's all conversations about pizza.
And then you flash forward now to the Epstein files because obviously, you know, Pizzagate becomes this whole controversy.
It kind of disappears at a certain point because no one will talk about it anymore.
But then all of a sudden with the Epstein files.
owen shroyer
A lot of people got intimidated and threatened out of talking about it.
ben swann
Well, they absolutely did and sued and attacked and their careers ended.
But here we are, you know, 10 years later.
And when the Epstein files come out, what do you see?
Lots of conversations about pizza.
Again, 911 times the pizza is discussed.
And again, not a single receipt for a pizza.
No discussion of actual like legitimate, I'm going to order a pizza with these toppings, right?
It's conversations about pizza and you like pizza.
And there's one about a pregnant woman who has this incredible glow to her.
And the response from Jeffrey Epstein is, that's the pizza.
That's the pizza.
Like he's, he's literally outing the language they're using.
I also think it's interesting, though, and I don't know if you've come across this so far, but if you look at the Epstein files and you look at kind of the dates surrounding those emails, those 911 emails where pizza is referenced, almost all of them are pre-2016.
And the reason I think that's significant is because I think obviously Epstein didn't stop doing what he was doing and the Epstein class didn't stop doing what they were doing.
But I think that one thing that Pizzagate did is it actually changed the language.
It forced them to stop using that language.
They used other language, I'm sure, which is why we see lots of other weird food references later on in his emails.
But the initial emails that he has regarding pizza and where they're talking about pizza are actually kind of 2016 and before the same timeline that you find in the Podesta emails.
owen shroyer
I did not make that connection.
That is also a very brilliant observation by you.
And we also saw some other clearly code language.
And, you know, I kind of, you know, it's like, don't insult my intelligence with these people that are saying, oh, yes, Jeffrey Epstein was a grape soda and beef jerky connoisseur.
Like, come on.
I mean, are you, are you really going to insult my intelligence?
It's like, if my, if my, if I open up my kid's phone and they're talking about grass and weed, like, I know they're not talking about gardening.
Okay.
Like, don't, if my, if my kid is like, oh, I'm just into gardening now.
It's like, okay, don't, don't insult my intelligence.
So I'm not saying I know what it is.
I mean, people have, have reached some, I think, reasonable conclusions about what it is that they're referencing there.
But there were so many connections.
You know, it's like, how can I believe it's a coincidence?
You've got the Comet Pizza.
Now you've got Howard Luttnick with the Comet Investors Group or whatever it is.
It's like, am I supposed to believe that's a coincidence?
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
Well, we have certain boundaries in journalism that we have to follow.
And it's just like all the jerky references, all the grape soda references.
I don't see pictures of Jeffrey Epstein eating beef jerky and drinking grape soda anywhere.
I don't see these.
I don't see these parties.
So I'm supposed to believe that here's Epstein, the most prolific child sex trafficker pedophile in the world.
And he's just into good old family fun, like pizza parties with grape soda.
And he's just a beef jerky connoisseur and they make their own.
And if he doesn't get enough, he starts to tweak and freak out and he's got bags in the freezer.
It's like, how am I supposed to believe this?
ben swann
Yeah, yeah.
I want to, I want to talk a little bit about that because we actually did a report a few weeks ago on the jerky stuff because I found it fascinating.
382 times he references beef jerky, right?
And to your point, you have to look at the context of the conversation, right?
It's one thing to say the guy, you know, I can find the word jerky in his emails 382 times.
That's one thing.
But then you go and you read the emails and you're like, to your point, read the context of it.
Who starts to freak out because they're running out of beef jerky?
Who has beef jerky flown in specially for them?
There's an email where he's basically complaining.
Someone's complaining that Jeffrey's very, very angry because he's run out of jerky and you were supposed to have brought him jerky last week.
Are you going to be able to fly it here, put it on the, and if you can't, can you, I can go in the private plane and get it from you and bring him the jerky because he's so upset.
Really?
Like there isn't, I know he's on his little private island, but at some point he's in New Mexico.
There's got to be a place you can buy beef jerky.
owen shroyer
Maybe they can't.
He's never seen the world to find it.
I've never seen a gas station, a convenience store, anything without beef jerky.
ben swann
Exactly.
Like literally the easiest.
But the other one that, again, using just context, consider the fact that Jeffrey Epstein refers to, or the person who's writing about him refers to the fact that he has at one point in one conversation, six bags of beef jerky in the freezer.
And they say, it should be enough to hold him over until you get here with new stuff, right?
Okay, six, I don't know how big these bags are, but six bags of beef jerky sounds like a lot.
So I don't know why you're fiending that you're eating this much beef jerky first.
But second of all, again, I'm not a connoisseur of beef jerky, but I'm pretty sure the one thing you don't have to freeze on the planet is beef jerky, because that's kind of the point of beef jerky is that it's dried out and it doesn't have moisture in it.
Therefore, it can just sit out.
It doesn't have to be frozen.
Who freezes beef jerky?
And so the fact that they're even talking about putting bags of jerky in a freezer in order to be able to, and by the way, the other thing is, if it's really beef jerky, you're putting it in the freezer, but you're eating it at such a rate that your concern is he's going to run out of it.
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ben swann
So what is it?
You're eating it so fast that you're going to run out.
So you got to make sure that you keep your stock and your supply up.
But whatever this meat is has to be frozen because it clearly can't be actual beef jerky then.
So again, as an intelligent person, I would think most intelligent people when they read through this would say, yeah, see, that just doesn't fit any kind of like real conversation.
So what is this?
It's clearly coded language.
And I know there are people who would say, no, you just want to read stuff into it.
It's fine.
Anybody who says that, you're not even reading the emails.
You're not reading what they're doing.
And you're probably the same people who pretend that, yeah, you know what?
He was trafficking to no one.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Well, and that's the problem that we have here is it appears that the DOJ and the FBI are either completely derelict here, incompetent, or in an active cover-up.
I can't think of any other explanation for this.
Now, I wasn't surprised, unfortunately, when Pam Bonnie had to sit down for that hearing and nobody asked her these things because I guess, you know, the Democrats don't have a high enough IQ to understand the real questions they need to ask.
And then the Republicans were told, don't ask about it.
They were told flat out, do not bring it up.
That's why the only one that did was Massey.
Now, Bonnie's going to be due for another hearing.
We'll see if they go there or not.
But to me, it was obvious.
It was like, hey, is anybody investigating what this clearly code language is?
Is anybody asking about this?
Is anybody investigating this?
It's just like, this seemed to be the most obvious stuff you would ask.
Again, I use the analogy of being a parent because this stuff is so obvious.
It's so instinctual.
You know, you open up your kid's phone and they're talking about pot or grass.
Like, yeah, you know, they're not getting ready to do a gardening project.
You know, they're talking about, let's say, snow, or if you want to get even more into the culture, like Molly or something, it's like, yeah, that's not his girlfriend, right?
Like he's talking about drugs here.
So a parent would want to know that.
A parent would be concerned about that.
You know, they would see that instinctually.
So we all know that they have to have some semblance of understanding that this is code language.
They have to have it.
The question is, are they investigating it?
Are they not investigating it?
It wasn't asked and answered.
To me, that was the biggest swing and miss of that hearing that was kind of a disaster, all things considered.
It was like a total swing and miss.
It's like, here's the smoking gun, if you will, of what the hell was actually going on here.
And it went completely unasked and unanswered.
ben swann
Yeah, well, it absolutely did.
And I think there's a couple of reasons.
To your point, obviously, with the Republicans, they were told, don't ask about this stuff.
So they're not going to bring it up.
They're not going to ask about code language because it's supposed to be on the Republican side, this is all much ado about nothing, right?
This is not that big of a story.
Move on.
The Dows at 50,000.
On the Democratic side, the problem is, is that they're not actually curious about anything that's in the Epstein files unless the word is Trump.
That's the only thing they care about because they never cared about the Epstein files.
Democratic Party didn't care about it.
Democratic voters didn't really care about it.
Certainly the politicians didn't care about it.
Epstein was not important to them.
In fact, up until very recently, Epstein was much more heavily connected to well-known Democratic lawmakers like Bill Clinton.
And so they had kind of avoided talking about him.
Now, then as soon as they thought there might be something related to Trump in there, then they started caring about it.
And, you know, Trump has accused Democrats saying, well, they, you know, this is a witch hunt.
They only care about it because of me.
In fairness, I think that's true.
I don't think that's an untrue statement.
So I think what the problem is when you get Pam Bondi up on the stand and you're supposed to ask her questions, no one knows what to ask her because I'm not even sure how many of these lawmakers have even bothered to look at the Epstein files themselves.
How many of them have watched actual reporting on these?
How many major media organizations have actually reported on it?
Other than to say that there are Epstein files, how many of them are telling you anything that's in those Epstein files?
They're just not doing it.
So there is a way for the general public to know that something exists or is happening and yet still remain completely oblivious to any of the details.
And I think that's all by design.
owen shroyer
Well, and what's so crazy is the volume and the amount of it.
And I don't know.
My sources told me that we probably have 10% or less of the actual files is what I was told.
There's been some numbers throughout there.
Maybe we've gotten half, whatever.
The point is, we haven't even gotten them all.
And my guess would be that the ones we haven't gotten are probably the worst of them is basically, I think, a fair guess to make considering how they're kind of handling this right now.
We also know they're deleting some, retracting some, redacting some.
I mean, the whole thing is just totally crazy.
The only one in the only one this week that's been pushing the gas on it is Nancy Mace, who wants to have Pam Bondi impeached, uh, or she's subpoenaed.
She's going to try to subpoena Pam Bondi because she's not following the law as far as these files are concerned.
We did the numbers, and just on my show alone, I did seven hours of just reading the files.
So I didn't play any of the video, I didn't play any of the audio.
I just did seven hours of just reading some of the most salacious, you know, despicable stuff in the files.
And I think of those, I think I only read one or two of the actual FBI investigative documents because, you know, there's fair reason to say somebody can do a false report, right?
So I decided, so I decided I only read like two or three of the witness, the witness reports because maybe there's room for error, maybe there's lies there.
So it was mostly just the emails.
This is mostly just stuff that was said between Epstein and/or his associates.
And just in that alone, it's so mind-boggling.
It's so crazy.
It's bigger than the WikiLeaks.
I mean, the WikiLeaks was like 5% of what we have in these Epstein files.
And we all know that there were videos, whether it was from Wiener's laptop or other videos that they had in New York, just like other videos that we know that they have with the Epstein files.
So somebody knows, Ben.
Somebody knows how dark and twisted and diabolical this stuff really is.
I mean, Burchett came out and said he saw demonic activity and demonic worship in these videos.
Do you think?
Because the interest is not gone.
We're obviously distracted by a war right now, but the interest is not gone.
I don't think the interest is gone.
I think that eventually this stuff is going to boomerang back into the top story.
What do you think the interest level is from your perspective?
Because to me, the interest level is not gone.
It's just kind of paused right now.
ben swann
Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to distract from the Epstein files, you start a war, and that's a great way to do it, right?
You managed to knock it off the top of X, where I couldn't go on exit and find anything other than the Epstein files for about four weeks.
And now all of a sudden, everything's Iran.
And that's understandable, but I agree with you.
I don't think it's going anywhere.
And I do think, I think there are layers to the Epstein story, right?
There's obviously the political layer, there's the connections to wealthy people, there's the sex abuse, then there's the child sex abuse.
And I separate those two things because if you're going layer by layer, it gets to a dark, it gets darker, right?
And so there's the child sex abuse, and then there is stuff that is absolutely ritualistic and then demonic, right?
It's a satanic, occultic.
And that's also, by the way, goes back to the same as the Pizzagate stuff.
It's all tied into there as well.
I think for some people that is ultimately where it goes, but it's very hard for people to get to.
It's actually easier for people to just say this guy was a prolific sex offender and he had a voracious appetite, you know, for young girls, barely, barely underage girls, is the way most people would prefer to think about it.
You start getting this stuff about six, seven, eight-year-olds, very small children, three and four-year-olds, children whose bodies and some of these emails were reportedly buried at that Zorro ranch somewhere on the property.
You know, the ritualistic stuff, it's so dark and it's so disturbing.
I think it's very hard for a lot of people, especially just kind of the general population to accept.
And I think the reason for that, I've put a lot of thought into why that is.
Why do people really struggle with this part of the story?
Because it's a part that I've been trying to tell for 10 years.
And I think I've been trying to learn how to tell it better over the course of 10 years.
What I really think it comes down to is this.
If we talk about the Epstein files, the people involved in them, and even if it's occultic, satanic stuff, we can do that in 30 years, 40 years from now.
Why?
Because everybody associated with it is gone.
And I think the general public is able to look at it and say, I can accept awful people, terrible people, people doing ritualistic, occultic things, people doing terrifying, ghastly things, if I believe that that was how people were.
But I think where we have this break psychologically is it can't be how people are, because if it's how people are, then I have to ask the question, are those people in power right now?
And if they're in power right now, those are the people I'm allowing to make decisions over my life.
Are those the same people who are dragging us into a war?
Are those the same people who actually tried to inoculate the entire world five years ago with experimental vaccines?
And so when you start to ask those questions, it requires a response.
It requires that you do something.
Because if you really believe as the general public that there is a group of people who are controlling so much of society globally for their own benefit and to your own detriment, you got to do something about it.
It's a lot easier to say, you know what?
50 years ago, there were these terrible occultic groups who did these terrible things to children.
Wow, I'm sure glad those people are gone.
Glad that we've evolved past that and we'll never have to see that kind of thing again.
owen shroyer
Well, and I do wonder whatever the extent of the blackmail operation was.
I do wonder if they kind of decided now, whatever Epstein was doing in the 80s and 90s, you know, now that everybody carries around their own spy device and everything they do on the computer is tracked and traced.
Now it's like you kind of walk into the trap yourself.
They really might not even need an Epstein to be running these blackmail operations because you just voluntarily do something online that they can catch you doing.
I suppose that's a little more conspiratorial as far as the black.
ben swann
I think that I think that, by the way, I think that's brilliant.
I think that's absolutely true.
And I don't think people are thinking about that at all.
I've heard the question: who's the next Jeffrey Epstein?
Who is it now?
And to your point, there probably isn't one because you don't need it.
As you said, you're signing up for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
And I, you know, what's crazy too is if you look at the spirit cooking angle from the original WikiLeaks that led us to Pizzagate, and you look at Marina Abramovich and then all of her connections and what she was doing, it's like that had a shock value to it.
And then you learn more about what a spirit cooking is.
And it's like, okay, Democrat emails talking about spirit cookings.
That's weird.
Well, you look at the Epstein stuff, and there were a couple emails where they even said this is not for email, right?
It's like, hey, don't put that down on email.
So that kind of shows you that even they had some semblance of, all right, we're going to have a line drawn here as far as what we discuss on the emails and what we don't.
So if this is the stuff they're willing to discuss on emails, that they probably have some general sense of, hey, this could maybe get out or hey, maybe this could come back to haunt me.
They have some general sense of it, even if it's very low caution alert.
They have probably something there.
It shows that they knew, okay, hey, some of the stuff we don't even put down in a digital format.
Some of this stuff we don't even put down in an email because it'd be so bad.
So it's like, if this is the stuff they're willing to put in email, I can't even imagine what they have that they didn't put in email.
ben swann
No, I think that's true.
And again, you could also both the Podesta emails and the Epstein emails.
One thing you can see is they were aware enough to use code language, right?
They don't just say whatever they think or whatever they're doing.
The fact that they use so much code language in order to describe so many things, again, it does demonstrate a certain level of sensitivity where they have to be careful.
But I also think there's a part of it in which, so it's in, how do I say this?
In monitoring and covering kind of these groups for a long time, I think there's a pattern that emerges, especially with specifically ritualistic abuse and ritualistic abuse of children.
And it seems like that pattern is connected to the idea that If you're going to do this, you're never a lone wolf doing it on your own.
It's not this thing where they go off and hide and they have these perverse proclivities and the majority of the population would like to see them that way.
I think we almost want to see them like serial killers, right?
Serial killer doesn't really have a network, right?
They have this hidden obsession fantasy compulsion that drives them.
And they pick their victims, but everyone else around them can see them and say, I would never have suspected it, right?
That's not what child predators are.
And certainly not in the case of ritualistic circles.
Instead, those are networks who are connected to each other.
And when you start to read through those files, what you find is they almost have the same way that the serial killer has the need to hide who they really are and create like these multiple personalities.
They almost have the opposite effect where they have a need to go out and connect with others and to have this network relationship where they almost brag to each other about what they're doing.
They constantly need to send stuff back and forth.
They need to send pictures.
They need to communicate this one and what this one looked like and how this one was afraid or this one cried.
And it's, it's, there is something else there.
And I think it's, there's a spiritual component to that as well.
But there is a need for them to connect to each other, to communicate with each other and to share this experience with each other, even if it's not sharing the actual experience in the moment after the fact they feel the need to do it.
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unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Well, and I think everything is kind of to scale here.
I think, I think human activity, you know, whatever, whatever path you take in life, everything kind of has the same levels, the same trends, the same, you know, let's say life's challenges, initiations.
And so I think that these groups do the same thing.
So I kind of go back to what might be, you know, maybe some normal social circumstances for kids.
It's like, okay, you get into high school, maybe you get into college and maybe you start to get interested in partying.
Maybe you start to hanging out with these different social groups.
Maybe you like it.
Maybe you don't.
It's like, okay, maybe I want to try to drink a little bit.
Oh, okay.
These cool kids, they like to drink.
Okay.
Oh, maybe they got some drugs.
Maybe they got some weed.
They say weed is a gateway drug.
Then maybe they got this.
So it's like, there's kind of like, it's like everything is to scale.
So it's like, oh, okay, this is in college.
This is how you kind of do things.
Decide who your social circles are.
It's like, it's almost like the same thing happens in these groups.
It kind of goes back to what you're saying.
So it's like, okay, here you go.
Maybe some do it willingly.
Maybe some get trapped.
But it's like, okay, here you go.
You're hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.
You're at a party.
You're on the plane.
It's like, oh, look at a bunch of 18, 19-year-old hookers are out here.
Oh, you know, but from all over the world.
Oh, that's kind of nice.
It's like, is he into that?
Does he like that?
Is he down with that?
unidentified
Yes.
owen shroyer
Okay.
You bring him to the next one.
You know, maybe now, maybe now you got, maybe there's a 16-year-old there.
Maybe there's a 17-year-old there.
And it's a hey, I'm on St. James Island.
There's no laws here.
It's like, oh, okay.
Oh, you're willing to do that.
Next thing you know, maybe you're at one of these pizza parties, grape soda parties.
You know, maybe you're asking about jerky.
You need some new jerky.
And then next thing you know, you're at the temple doing God knows what or sending a message that says, whoops.
So it kind of seems like there's that same social pattern in these groups that you're just indicating here where it's like, yeah, some of them might just say, and maybe this was Trump.
I mean, to my knowledge, it seems like it was Trump.
Some of them probably just say, hey, I like hot women.
I like beautiful women.
Jeffrey Epstein seems to know a lot of them, has some parties.
I get access.
I'm hanging out with a bunch of beautiful women.
unidentified
Cool.
owen shroyer
Oh, once you get into the young stuff, I'm out, bro.
I don't do that.
I'm not into that.
And then there's some people that might be into that.
And then it's like you slowly but surely, it's like, okay, you get to that point where it's like, how far are they willing to go?
How much are they into this stuff?
And I think the bottom line at the end of it is the satanic rituals.
I think that that's like the final thing, the final level of this stuff.
And whatever dark stuff goes down, we can only, you know, imagine, I suppose, based off what we know.
But it seems like that's kind of how the initiation goes with these groups.
ben swann
Yeah, I think that's spot on.
I think you have it exactly right.
I've been trying to explain to people there are there are circles, right?
Multiple circles in this.
And the whitest circle is what you just described.
The whitest circle, Jeffrey Epstein knew everybody, right?
That was his job was to know everybody.
And so he would connect himself.
That's why you see he's connected to tech.
He's connected to militaries.
He's connected to politicians.
He's connected to Hollywood and music.
He's connected to modeling.
He connected everyone, right?
And that's, again, that's what he spent all of his time doing was connecting.
But just because you're connected to Jeffrey Epstein does not mean that you were involved in anything terrible.
You just, his job was to connect to you.
Just because there are emails doesn't mean between, well, excuse me, let me say it this way.
When there are emails that mention your name, it does not mean that you were involved in anything because Jeffrey Epstein also writes lots of emails where he talks about people.
It doesn't mean he's talking to them.
He's just talking about them.
And so that's one thing that frustrates me is people will say things like, you know, Trump's name came up like, and they give the number of times.
And I'm like, okay, but did Trump have an email exchange with Epstein?
I'd like to see that.
Now, they've redacted so much stuff.
Who knows if you can find it or not?
But I would like to see that.
But it does not particularly interest me to see that Epstein talks about Trump because of course he would.
Trump was running for president.
He talks about trying to stop Trump from becoming president.
He talks about trying how to sabotage him.
So talking about Trump, which everyone does pretty much globally every day, doesn't mean that Trump's responsible for anything.
But then you have this, so you have that whitest circle, but then you have the circle like, as you said, and then, oh, we have these parties and you like pretty girls, you like good looking women.
We have lots of them around us.
You know, he's connected to Leslie Wexner, who runs Victoria's Secret.
The mans can find some good-looking women.
And so it's like, you know, there's a circle of that.
That doesn't make you a pedophile, but then the circles get smaller.
And you're absolutely right.
And then the final circle, and I think they kind of worked you.
There's a scandal from the 1980s in Washington, D.C. that was known as the Golden Boy scandal.
Are you familiar with that?
owen shroyer
I don't think so.
No.
ben swann
So the Golden Boy scandal. was a scandal in which young boys were trafficked into Washington, D.C. to sex parties for a lot of powerful people, politicians.
There are even reports that they were at times during the George H. Bush administration, they were actually smuggled into the White House at that time.
That was some of the accusation around it.
And there was a madam, essentially the pimp, and pimp is not the right term, obviously, because they're not prostitutes.
These were boys who were being abused and they were all very young, who was finally caught and busted and was sentenced to prison.
Of course, none of the Johns were ever named, right?
You go and you get the trafficker and then none of the customers who were taking any of these boys and abusing them.
But there were two interesting details out of that.
One is there was a reporter from the Washington Post at the time who managed to get a hold, though, of a little black book that had all the credit card numbers of the Johns.
And so he started trying to trace the credit card numbers back to the people in Washington who might be connected to.
He was raided by the FBI and then a judge, they seized all those, that book and all of his research, and then a judge sealed it all for all time.
That's one part of the story.
But the other part of the story is that a lot of the boys who were trafficked, some of them had been interviewed.
And what they claimed was that there would be these parties, right?
And they were kept downstairs in like a lower level, a basement area, but they would be kept in these houses in a separate area.
So a party would go on and all these people would get invited, lots and lots of people.
They show up.
They have a good time.
They only drink.
In a lot of cases, they're using cocaine.
Party goes on for a while.
And a certain hour, the party comes to an end, right?
And people start being sent home.
And then they had some way of communicating that there was like an after party, but only certain people got these invites.
And then they would go downstairs.
And that's where these boys were abused is in these after parties.
And they were very select, obviously, about who got invited.
And I think that goes back to exactly what you're describing, right?
You can be invited to the big party.
You can be invited into the room.
And that doesn't mean you're getting invited to the after party.
And I think that, again, if we want to be responsible, as you and I do, about how you report on something like this, you can't take the attitude that everyone was responsible and they're all doing the exact same thing because it's just simply not true.
And it also doesn't do justice or bring justice for those who were truly doing the worst of this stuff because you're lumping them in with people who weren't.
And so you just kind of make a white noise out of the whole thing.
owen shroyer
I brought this up.
Lawsuit Connections? 00:12:20
owen shroyer
I was having a similar conversation with Liz Kroken, and I brought this up as something that kind of stuck out to me that not many people were mentioning: is how there seems to be no connection that at least we can make between the people that were involved in the Pizzagate exchanges and the people that were involved in the Epstein files.
It seems like these are two totally different groups, which I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, wow, you know, that kind of shows that there are multiple of these groups.
There are multiple groups that hover around DC or wherever, political parties, and they're all kind of into at least some of the similar stuff, some of this stuff that the average person couldn't even conceive of thinking about or doing.
So does that kind of hit you that it's like, wow, there's now at least two of these groups with very powerful, rich, influential people that are into this stuff.
And it seems to me, I couldn't find any connection between the two.
They seem to be totally different groups entirely.
ben swann
I'm not sure if that's true.
I don't have a lot of evidence that connects them, but there are some connections so far that I've been able to find that I find to be interesting.
For one, you mentioned the name Marina Abramovich, right?
She was obviously someone who was very involved in the Pizzagate story and the Epstein file, excuse me, the Podesta emails, because she was doing the spirit cooking, good friends with John and Tony Podesta, very connected to them.
But she actually does show up in the Epstein files as well.
So Epstein was obsessed with Ukraine, which I also find fascinating.
He was obsessed with Zelensky.
He was obsessed with the 2014 Maidan coup, in which the CIA, U.S. government, overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine and ultimately installed a puppet government, caused the road to where we are now in Ukraine.
Epstein was watching that and wrote in some of his emails that this was going to create many opportunities, he says.
Many opportunities, comma, many.
And he saw that as a great opportunity.
Jean-Luc Brunel, who was actually going to testify against Epstein before he ended up dead, he's a famous modeling scout from France.
He apparently had abused a ton of children himself, ultimately was killed in prison while he was awaiting trial and he was trying to turn a plea deal.
He was very connected to Ukraine and to Zelensky himself.
In fact, there are accusations in the Epstein files that Zelensky was responsible for helping traffic kids out of Ukraine in connection with Epstein and Jean-Luc Brunel.
However, specifically, Marina Abramovich comes up because what we find is that Epstein himself had at least three lunch meetings with Zelensky around 2019.
By 2022, I believe, maybe 2023, just after Epstein's already dead, dead, we see that Zelensky is now himself connected to Marina Abramovich, right?
And what we find is that he actually requested that Marina Abramovich become an ambassador for Ukraine.
Now, she's not Ukrainian, by the way.
She's from Romania, I believe, but she's not Ukrainian.
He asked that she become an ambassador for Ukraine, and you'll love this, so that she could work specifically as an ambassador to children who became orphans during the war.
And that would be her focus, would be on these children.
Well, of course it would be.
So the fact that there's a kind of a bridge between those two, I find interesting.
The other thing I find very interesting is at least 38 times after WikiLeaks dumped the John Podesta emails.
Jeffrey Epstein emails the Wikileaks link to various people.
The interesting thing about this is every single one of those emails, he does not say, hi.
He does not say, your friend Jeffrey.
He does not say, thought you'd be interested in this, says nothing.
The emails don't have any writing on them at all.
It's just the hyperlink to the Wikileaks dump of John Podesta's emails.
The names are redacted of who he's sending them to, so we don't know.
We can see it's coming from Jeffrey Epstein.
And multiple times, dozens of times, he's sending this link out to his circle.
The fact that he is sending out the link to Podesta's emails to so many people without saying anything.
You alluded to this before.
There are certain things they don't say in the emails.
And it's almost as loud when they won't say it as when they do.
He says nothing else, just sends the link.
So there are echoes, I would say, right now in what I've been able to find that are starting to connect those two stories.
I think there are deeper connections there.
I'm still looking for it.
owen shroyer
Well, that's great in-depth research.
And if we were going to go more in-depth, we'd need another hour to do it.
I got one last question for you.
But the other crazy part of this is, because you bring up Ebronvich and they give her the children, it's like there was a big UN story where they raided a trafficking institution that was in a UN building.
You got Laura Silsby caught at the border with a bunch of kids.
Now apparently she's running the Amber alerts.
It's like once you even go into like all these different things where it's like you might get access to kids, this stuff seems to always pop itself up.
And so when you see Epstein saying many opportunities in Ukraine, I think the general direction of the assumptions is, yeah, there's going to be orphans of war and somebody's going to get in there and scoop them up.
Quite frankly, my opinion is Putin was trying to save those kids.
And that's why they did the typical reverse in the media and said, oh, Putin is kidnapping those kids.
I tend to believe the opposite, but you don't need to express your opinion on that.
My last question for you, this is a totally different direction, but I just kind of want to get your general thoughts here.
What do you, if you could sum it up for me and my audience, how would you sum up the state of the American media on this March 5th, 2026?
What is the state of the American media right now from Ben Swan?
ben swann
I mean, I guess, you know, the state of the media is not good.
And really, so let's break it into categories.
Corporate media is dead.
We've known that for a long time.
That's been the case for a long time.
Then there was this incredible renaissance that came along in the mid kind of 2010s, where all of a sudden you got a lot of folks who are being able to utilize technology and social media to get the word out.
They don't really need to go through the gatekeepers anymore.
owen shroyer
Great.
ben swann
That was terrific.
But man, in 10 years, a lot of that's changed too.
I mean, if you look at what's happening even within the influencer world, within the citizen journalist or the independent journalists, right?
I don't know.
When you've got, you know, I give you an example.
You know, you've got a lawsuit that's just been filed by a bunch of influencers.
Because remember that Israel said it was leaked that they were going to pay influencers $7,000 a post to shill for Israel.
But now there's a lawsuit that says a class action lawsuit saying, we never got paid.
We're owed this money.
How embarrassing?
How shameful that not only did you take $7,000 a post to say that Israel was great, but now you're having to sue for the money?
I think one thing that we see happening is, you know, what we just saw happen with Candace Owens the other day, right?
She's going to turn out this thing on Erica Kirk, Bride of Charlie, which, you know, I watched the first one.
It's okay.
I will say the name's pretty great, though.
Very, very clever with the name, the Bride of Charlie.
owen shroyer
Good production value.
There's no doubt about that.
ben swann
For sure, for sure.
But the real story there wasn't even Candace's report.
It was all the influencers who word for word started calling her demonic the day that she put out her trailer.
The fact they were all using the exact same terminology.
So there's something happening right now, Owen, that's it's it's almost depressing because you say, you know, the same junk that existed in mainstream that we were supposed to be breaking away from, we were supposed to be getting free from, we were supposed to have this independence now.
Now we have these weird kind of cabals of independent journalists and independent influencers who aren't independent at all.
They're all echoing the exact same thing.
They're all vying for access.
And so you have like these battles that are taking place online.
It used to be the independence against the corporate media.
Well, now the corporate media doesn't even count anymore because no one listens to them.
So now it's the independence against the independence.
And there's like a civil war happening right now.
And you watch like, you know, the Dave Rubin hates Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and they hate, you know, Turning Point USA and Ben Shapiro.
And, you know, I just saw, I just saw Glenn Beck.
I don't know if you and your audience saw this.
He just released a video where he's talking, he's doing like an AI conversation with an AI generated George Washington so that George Washington can tell Glenn Beck why he's in support of the Iran war.
unidentified
What?
ben swann
What is happening?
owen shroyer
It's a little better than the Cheeto face segment.
I think it might have a little, I don't know.
It's open for debate whether the Cheeto face or the AI George Washington was better.
ben swann
I got to tell you, the George Washington is wearing like a slouch t-shirt, too.
I'm not even sure what that's about.
I bet George would have dressed better.
owen shroyer
I agree.
And he would have fucking dress Doug Burkham up as George Washington.
It probably would have been better.
ben swann
Exactly.
It would have been better to at least have someone in there, right?
Just as an actor.
It would have been better.
But it's just so, it's so shameless because it's like, who is your audience?
One thing I will say is that, and I think the same would probably be true of your audience as well.
You have an audience.
I have an audience of people who are pretty smart people.
And you don't do your research.
You don't cover your bases.
You don't have facts.
They're going to walk away.
There's a high standard that's on us for what we do.
And then I see people like that.
And I'm like, Glenn, like, who's watching you that they would actually watch this and be like, yes, yes, George, I'm with you.
If George says it's okay, let's bomb Iran.
Like, really?
That's who your audience is?
It's pretty incredible.
So the state of media is not good.
That answers your question.
owen shroyer
Well, it shows how in tune you are, honestly.
It shows how in tune you are with everything that that's where you went because I'm seeing the same thing.
And when it first started happening, you know, I started getting the digital influence campaign offers.
You know, I got invited into all these different offers and the text threads and the email threads and everything.
And I never did it.
I always reject it.
At first, I said yes, just so I could get access to it, but then they figured out I was reporting on it and they cut me off.
You know, when you said that, when you said the word depressing, I think that that's what really hit home the most to me.
Because, you know, I don't have a problem with people making a living, right?
I'm a free market capitalist.
I don't have a problem with people making a living.
And quite frankly, it's a lot of my friends doing it.
It's a lot of my friends that are doing this.
Where I draw the line is when you're willing to sell out your ethics and when you're willing to sell out your audience, that's where I draw the line.
Hey, you want to do a paid post for a political campaign that directionally you generally agree with, whatever.
Overtime Listening Tips 00:05:33
owen shroyer
You want to do a paid post because somebody just put up a new poll and you're just sharing it, whatever.
When two years ago, when two years ago, you're staunchly against war in Iran, and now today you're posting pro-war in Iran.
That's where I draw the line.
That's where it gets depressing.
That's what we're seeing a lot of.
And I know you'll never do it.
I'll never do it.
That's why we love you.
That's why we appreciate you.
That's why we're glad that we had you on today.
We'll be following your work.
Ben Swan, where can people follow your great work?
ben swann
So check me out on both X and Instagram.
It's Ben Swan underscore, S-W-A-N-N underscore.
And of course, truthandmedia.com.
owen shroyer
Amazing stuff, Ben.
We really appreciate your time today.
God bless.
Godspeed.
ben swann
Thank you, Owen.
owen shroyer
There goes Ben Swan.
We're going to upload that full interview, folks, on YouTube, X, and on Rumble.
That's just incredible.
That's just one of the best, really.
You're not going to get much better than Ben, and he's going to be around.
So we really appreciate that.
And we'll hope you'll spread that one far and wide.
Tell you what, let's take a short break.
We're going to go into a little bit of overtime today.
I anticipated we might need to do that.
So let's take a short break and then we'll come back with a little bit of overtime.
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owen shroyer
Let's just get the rest of the news off the desk here.
Quickly, let's get the rest of the news off the desk.
And then we will go to your super chats in a little bonus time today.
Man, though, how great was Ben Swan?
How great was that?
Amazing stuff.
All right.
You guys remember, I forget what day it was when Tom Cotton, I guess it was probably Tuesday, when Tom Cotton said, Iran has been an imminent threat for 47 years.
That was the exact quote.
We got an all-timer.
We got an all-timer on the community notes on X. Nothing can be imminent for 47 years.
Oh, man.
FBI Hacked: 500 TB Deleted 00:03:51
owen shroyer
Hey, so the memes are starting.
The New York Jets have been an imminent threat to win the Super Bowl for 56 years.
Well, you got to go with the number.
You got to go with 47.
So pick your, what do we want to do here?
That's a good one.
The New York Jets have been an imminent threat to win the Super Bowl for 47 years.
That's painful.
That's got to be rough.
That's got to be rough.
What's another?
The Pittsburgh Pirates have been an imminent threat to win the World Series for 47 years.
Start lobbing them.
Start lobbing them in the chat.
What else has been an imminent threat for 47 years?
There's got to be some good ones in there.
Grand Theft Auto 6 has been imminent for 47 years.
So there you go.
That's an all-timer in the community notes.
Here's the latest.
This is a wild one.
FBI computer system hacked millions of Epstein files white.
I can't believe this didn't get more attention.
And so credit to Slay News's Frank Bergman here.
Now, you can read his story because he obviously read these files and he lays it all out.
It's not too long of a story, but it gets into the details here.
It's almost so unbelievable, except he links to the actual documents in the story.
He links to the actual documents.
I mean, he did all the legwork here.
And so you can go through the document from Aaron Spivak, who is investigating this.
I mean, you can even do your own search.
Talks about the hack.
We were hacked.
Who is the hacker?
Left a booby trap.
So somebody supposedly hacked into the Epstein files and deleted 500 terabytes.
So that's like everything.
This deal keeps getting crazier.
Who do you think hacked it?
Who do you think hacked the FBI?
How many people would even have that?
You know, it's all a process of elimination.
How many institutions or groups could even have the ability to break into a jail cell and have somebody killed?
How many people could break into the highest security prisons in the world to kill Jean-Luc Brunel or Jeffrey Epstein?
Now, you know, I flipped.
I think Epstein's still alive now.
Probably Brunel isn't.
But let's just say, who even has that ability?
There's not so many groups.
There's not so many people that you could say have the ability to get into a high-security prison and kill someone.
There's not too many groups that have the ability to hack into the FBI and delete 500 terabytes of files.
So it's a process of elimination.
That's a very, that's a very small group of people that could potentially pull something like that.
All right.
So they wanted to do some transparency here of the slush fund for all the sexual assault accusations against members of Congress.
Learning Meme Warfare 00:05:25
owen shroyer
And what do you know?
Congress voted it down.
There it is.
House kills effort to release all congressional sexual misconduct and harassment reports.
Representative Nancy Mace had forced the vote in light of the allegations that a Republican colleague Tony Gonzalez of Texas sent sexual text messages to a subordinate.
By the way, Trump endorsed him and he beat Brendan Herrera, one of the strongest Second Amendment activists that were on the ballot in Texas.
And he almost came within inches of beating the Trump-endorsed Tony Gonzalez.
But the House voted against exposing all of the sexual accusations against members of Congress.
Go figure.
Go figure.
JD Vance was supposed to have a town hall this month.
CBS News town hall with JD Vance has been postponed.
So that's not going to happen.
He was supposed to be participating in a CBS event with Tony Docupil that was going to take place on March 14th, and it has been postponed.
I'd say for obvious reasons, but I don't know.
Now, the White House puts up a lot of weird slop, a lot of weird AI slop.
Here's some from today.
Make America great again.
This is some weird kids type of content here.
Now, in the background is what appears to be a Pokemon map.
I have to say, though, it's no Pokemon map that I am familiar with.
So I don't know if they did an AI-generated Pokemon map or if this is some new game that they're going to come out with.
I'm not familiar with it.
Either way, so now the White House is trying to make the Pokemon trend part of their propaganda here.
I can't believe it, but the Democrats are now, they're learning how to meme.
So they made their own version and they replaced the text and it says, stop protecting pedophiles.
Uh-oh.
They're learning how to meme.
Now, the problem is the main reason why the left couldn't meme for all those years is because none of their criticisms were based in reality.
But like I said, you know, they came out, Pete Hegset said the other day, he goes, your reporting on the war is making Trump look bad.
Well, what did I say?
They don't have to lie to make Trump look bad.
All they have to do is tell the truth to make Trump look bad.
So now they're pissed because the media is telling the truth.
How ironic is that?
Now, you can understand why Trump or anybody would be mad when you're printing lies about somebody to make them look bad.
Now they print the truth about Trump and it makes him look bad and they're mad.
So that's not going to stop.
But that's why Saturday Night Live Trump bits are funny now.
And that's why the left is learning how to meme because now that their criticisms are based in reality and you can actually use irony and hypocrisy as a form of art and entertainment, now it's starting to hit.
Meanwhile, the Babylon B, none of their criticisms of Tucker or whoever are legitimate.
And so now they're not funny anymore.
We've watched the script flipped entirely.
Speaking of woke right, listen to this from the Florida GOP.
Tell me how this reads.
Let me, in fact, I'm going to pretend you don't know where this is coming from.
I should have done this.
I should have done a different tease.
What if it read like this?
Statement from the Democrat Party of Florida.
The Democrat Party of Florida consistently stands against racism, anti-Semitism, and bigotry in all its hateful forms of expression.
The Democrat Party of Florida has been made aware of repugnant comments made by a few individuals in a group chat that are completely contrary to everything the Republican Party, the Democrat Party of Florida, stands for and represents.
The Democrat Party of Florida is undergoing an internal review of this situation and, as such, will not comment further at this time.
I slipped up.
I said Republican there.
No, that's a message from the Florida GOP.
This is woke.
This is woke garbage.
Somebody call the president.
Everything woke turns to shit.
The entire GOP is turning to shit.
The entire right-wing movement, MAGA movement, GOP, it's all going woke.
It's all turning to shit.
Wake up.
Rick Scott, this is disgusting.
It cannot be tolerated.
Listen to yourselves.
Racists and anti-Semites are not welcome in the Republican Party.
Oh, my God.
This is literally Democrat Party slop from four years ago.
This is Democrat Party slop from eight years ago.
Woke right.
That's a boomerang right there, isn't it?
That's a boomerang that came back on them.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
All right.
Can you believe it's Friday tomorrow?
I think I might save some of this stuff, it's Friday content.
Parolee with 131 Arrests 00:03:46
owen shroyer
I think I might just save it for Friday.
Here's one for you: paroleee with 131 prior arrests.
I'm sorry.
How do you even do that?
Is arrested for setting a homeless man on fire at Penn Station in New York?
Damon Johnson was arrested Tuesday by officers with the Amtrak Police Department and charged with attempted murder and assault for the attack that left a 37-year-old man with second-degree burns on his arm and back.
131 prior arrests.
First of all, that number is unbelievable.
I feel like, you know, it's like once you get past 50.
ben swann
Good God.
owen shroyer
It's like, once you get past 50, you know, what are we doing here, guys?
Once you're past 100, what?
How old is this guy?
10 million years old?
Over 100?
131.
It's like, can we have a rule?
If you get arrested over 50 times, it's like, you know, maybe it's time for you to have a permanent home.
131 sets a man on fire.
This is clown world.
This is clown world.
You know, back to that Florida GOP thing.
I can't.
Are they going to scold Randy Fine for his hateful speech, for his bigoted speech?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Hey, all right.
A little sports slop before we sign off.
The World Baseball Classic is about to start.
It's kind of a non-starter.
We'll see how it does.
Kevin Eucalys.
If you're a baseball fan, you know the name.
Kevin Euclis, former MLB All-Star, two-time World Series champ.
He's going to join Team Israel.
He's going to be joining Team Israel instead of Team USA.
It doesn't matter that he's from Cincinnati, Ohio, and has never lived in Israel.
He's going to join Team Israel.
Why is that?
You're not Israeli.
So I guess that shows the mindset that if you're Jewish, you are supposed to be loyal to a foreign country.
Not a good look.
Not a good look, and definitely not good for the cause, but there it is.
More loyal to Israel than America.
But he's not the only one.
The whole damn team.
The whole damn team are all Americans playing for Team Israel.
The entire damn team.
None of them have ever lived in Israel, to my knowledge.
I'm going to go ahead and take a shot that if you're a professional baseball player, you probably didn't grow up in Israel.
You're probably not from Israel.
So this is the message.
You're not Israeli, but because you're Jewish, you're loyal to a foreign country.
Not a good time, not a good look.
What are we doing here?
You're Americans.
How do you, how can you even, how can you even be eligible to play for Israel?
So are you all dual citizens?
Sorry.
Fox News Running Phone Number 00:02:57
owen shroyer
Not a good look.
Not good timing.
But there you go.
There it is.
There it is.
All right.
We're going to have to go into bonus time here.
Bonus time for the Super Chats.
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owen shroyer
What craziness do we have today?
We got a ton of super chats today.
This could take a while.
Oh, I can't.
I can't look at it.
The bombs are dropping.
More death and destruction in the Middle East.
Here we go.
B2 bombers dropping 2,000-pound penetrator bombs.
Yikes.
Oh, my gosh.
Fox News is running the phone number.
Fox News is running the phone number 24-7, I guess, now.
Americans in the Middle East emergency assistance number, and they're running.
Oh, my gosh.
What a disaster.
You know, someone sent to me during the break because I guess Britney Spears is crashing out.
Poor Brittany.
She's crashing out.
They said, Owen, it's the year 2001 again.
Brittany is crashing out.
Pokemon is popular again.
We're bombing the Middle East.
I said, wait a second.
Don't you forget what else happened that year?
Yikes.
Yikes.
All right.
Into the super chats.
We go for a little OT today.
Dust Vault, Shabbat Shalom.
Remember the poem?
Every day he gets home.
Shabbat shalom.
I need to make it into an AI wrap.
Call Alex Stein.
We're making tuck-friendly clothing at Target Great again.
Oh, old Alex.
I saw he trolled Dan Crenshaw today.
That's fun.
That's fun.
Why The Young Are Turning Democrat 00:13:09
owen shroyer
With Hillary, you'll end up in World War III.
Look, we're not there yet, but it's not looking good.
Tay Tay, Waffle House banned James Fishback.
It didn't make, actually, I had that story.
Didn't make my final cut today, but I saw apparently IHOP, unless Fishback could be trolling, but apparently IHOP has sent him, IHOP has slid into Fishback's DMs.
unidentified
Whoa.
owen shroyer
Whoa.
Rejected by Waffle House.
Ingratiated by IHOP?
The Burger, the Burger Bar Wars?
Because Fishback said he was going to visit every Waffle House in Florida on this campaign.
And I guess Waffle House said nope.
And now IHOP is filling in.
If that was real, I saw Fishback post that.
It could be a troll.
Did I not tell you that was going to be a race to watch?
Did I not tell you?
Negotiating a peace deal with the U.S. is suicide.
Let's see how it goes with those Gulf Nation states.
Alyssa B. People just like your show for your voice or look, as you said some do.
I have an ethics crush on you, too.
Doing the right thing is high value.
Oh, thanks.
Well, I appreciate that.
That's going to set off some fire in the chat.
I'm looking forward to that.
Welcome to the show, Alyssa.
You're very kind.
You're very sweet.
Oh, here we go.
Owen Schroyer Wifey, why won't you let me get a puppy, though?
Well, because you're only allowed to pet me.
Woofie, all the illegals will get amnesty.
That's the plan.
Yeah, Trump totally betrayed us on the deportations, too.
So what's new?
That's the theme of the year.
Panda, God bless you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Panda.
Appreciate you.
In Florida in 2026, 13.3 million total registered voters, 5.5 million Republicans, 4 million Democrats, 464,000 third parties, 3.3 million non-party affiliations.
Thank you for the election data.
Yeah, I don't think Florida is in the balance.
Texas, I'm a little worried about, I will say.
Captain Hart, these people are insane.
Trump to sell out got certain people with no morals or integrity going with anything.
Now they're okay with TGD surgeries.
So the Trump, since the start of the show, they erased that post, and now they said they're against it entirely.
Okay, good.
What the hell happened?
Like, what the hell was that?
You think we'll get an honest explanation?
Tink Tank and Tunk.
Your R and Circle logo, if not meant, is now a wisdom tooth and flosser.
So said, so be it.
Are you talking about the Owen Report logo?
Wisdom Tooth and Flosser?
Am I missing something?
I'm glad you like the logo.
We're very proud of the logo.
Pre-X.
Thank you, Owen.
We fought like hell in California, lost jobs for not taking poison.
Just talked to our tough Republican chairman, and she told me we don't care about women and children for no war stance.
Done.
I bet they're hearing a lot.
I bet they're hearing a lot.
And that's why I just, don't be surprised when all of these people that ingratiated themselves with Trump, don't be surprised when they turn on him.
Don't be surprised.
Been warning about it.
Been warning about it for months now.
Don't be surprised when they realize if the weather's changed, they'll change.
I'm this close to seeking asylum in Russia.
Like Ed Snowden, like Tara Reed.
Seems to be a trend there.
Dems can vote in Republican primaries in Texas, unlike Florida.
Oh, you think they're outvoting for Cornyn?
Well, that would be bad news because that would mean that the Democrats are outvoting Republicans even more bigly, if that's the case.
The trans surgery was a gift to Larry Loomer.
Don't even get me started.
Corn pop, the asteroid that took out the dinosaurs arrived too early, in my opinion.
No, we like life.
Life is good.
Player hater one, Trump hit the art of the deal on his supporters, was the plan all along and seals the deal for Agenda 2030.
It's not looking good.
Not looking good.
Thank you.
MAGA CAG Phi.
40 chests, but MAGA are the pawns.
Got duped.
Some of them still getting duped.
Trump changed the post and removed the parental part to say no trans surgery, no integrity.
He was getting crushed.
That's why he changed it.
Comedy show.
I really am looking forward to an explanation.
Eventually, someone's going to get it asked.
I don't know if it'll get answered.
Can you have Rich Barris on, please?
Does Rich follow me?
I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
The People's Pundit, you can reach out.
Do it again.
The Groypers will vote Democrat to get justice for GOP betrayal.
You, Nick, and Myron are the best.
I watch your shows every day.
Thank you.
God bless.
You know, I totally get where Nick is coming from.
I totally get it.
I don't think I could ever vote Democrat.
I never have.
I don't think I ever could.
I wonder.
I don't doubt.
I don't doubt that what Nick is saying is going to be a phenomenon.
There will be young men that vote Democrat.
And I'm just thinking out loud, young right-wing men, young Trump voters that will vote Democrat.
I'm just thinking out loud.
And I'm wondering if that's more of an age thing, like a generational thing.
Because the guys that are my age that I talk to that are done with Trump, they're just not going to vote, is what they're telling me.
They're just going to sit this election cycle out.
They're not going to go vote Democrat.
So I wonder, what is Nick, like 24?
So he's in the younger generation.
I wonder if that's more of a younger generation thing where they're going to say F you and vote Democrat.
And I just wonder what that, what that generational psychology means, if there's anything significant to that, if that's the trend.
It does seem to be that way.
It does seem to be that way.
And it's so funny.
You know, here's what's so funny about it.
What's so funny is to watch all of the MAGA cult members and the MAGA tards that are like, oh, C told you so.
He's a Democrat about Nick.
And it's just like, you guys don't even understand the irony of you calling Nick a Democrat for voting Democrat.
And it's like, you think you're onto something because it's like, oh, look, he's voting Democrat.
And it's like, okay.
But Nick is not the one that actually sold out his values and principles.
That's you.
That's you.
And the irony, if this thing goes bad, is that Trump will end up turning Texas blue, which has been the Democrat wet dream for two decades.
And so that won't be Nick Fuentes' fault.
That will be Trump's fault.
So that's like, that's like the ironic twist to this whole thing is that, oh, we're mad at Nick because he actually wants the things we voted for.
We're mad at Nick because he actually wants mass deportation.
He actually wants to put America first.
He actually wants to keep us out of the wars in the Middle East.
It's like, that's what we all voted for.
And you're mad at him for being consistent.
You guys are the ones that sold out on the actual issues.
You guys are the ones that got sold out on the actual policies, not him.
So it's hilarious when I see all of the MAGA tards.
It's like, oh, you're never MAGA.
Oh, you're a liberal.
Oh, you're this.
No, no.
You guys literally sold out everything.
You did this.
It turns out you guys have no values, no principles, no integrity.
You're literally just Trump cultists.
Or if I want to be nice, you're Trump loyalists.
But there's no different at this point.
You guys did that.
And so when Republicans lose in the midterms, it's not going to be because of Nick.
It's going to be because of you and Donald Trump.
And they think it's this big gotcha thing.
Oh, Nick's voting Democrat.
Oh, told you.
Oh, yeah, told you.
Oh, yeah.
I told you.
Look who's going to war with Iran.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Told you.
owen shroyer
Look who's building the big tech surveillance state.
Oh, yeah.
I told you, look who's not doing mass deportations.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
I told you, look who's not doing doge cuts.
It's like, what a joke.
Technesis.
Owen, my man, so proud of you for standing on your ground and staying true to your morals and ethics.
Been praying for you a long time.
God is working in your life in amazing ways.
Rock on, dude.
Thank you.
I appreciate those prayers.
Need them.
Appreciate it.
DZ, outrageous.
Bet Trump gets MAGA to support Epstein.
Well, they kind of, I mean, they kind of go along with the whole Epstein files or a hoax thing.
So I don't know.
I think that's kind of already happened.
Back to our what is Trump going to get his cultists to believe next?
They love war now.
They were almost for trans surgeries, but Trump saved them from that one.
They were for a second, though.
They were for MAGA was for trans surgeries for about an hour.
Hello, Kitty.
Hi, Owen.
In chat, question.
Are we buying or stealing the Venezuelan gold?
Well, if it's happening at gunpoint, does it really matter?
Have you considered that these bad decisions by our human leaders is paving the way for AI to take over all decision-making and the political system?
Yes, I have.
I have.
And that's part of the reason why I say you still need to vote because if we give up voting, then they'll take it from us.
You know, the old Ingersoll Lockwood book, The Last President.
I don't know, guys.
The real uprising needs to happen.
I think more are on board than ever.
I see no other way.
Crusader mentality, done turning the cheek.
God bless.
You know, Trump signed that act getting ready for, you know, I think protests goes into place in April.
So it all seems to be right on time, doesn't it?
It all seems to be right on time.
So what are they going to do?
If there's protests this summer, maybe there's anti-Trump protests, they're going to crack down.
Super chat money goes to Owen, right?
Yes.
Well, no, it actually goes to the World Independent News Network, but that is my network.
So it's essentially me.
But no, it doesn't go to me, the World Independent Network.
We have two employees.
And so it goes towards building this network.
So, but it, but it's my network.
I own it.
I'm independent.
But no, it doesn't go directly to me.
It goes to the World Independent Network that I'm trying to build, make bigger, bigger studios, everything that goes along with that.
It's going to be a process.
We're trying to do it as organic as humanly possible to stay as independent as possible.
But when you do a super chat, it is helping me build the network and this show.
Corn pop, did you see they changed 0.5?
That was fast.
Yeah, well, they had MAGA was pro-trans for about a two-hour deal.
Brian McGinnis is more MAGA than Trump now.
So, yeah, I think I said that yesterday.
That one got him going on the Clips account over there.
I don't run that account.
I don't post.
People think it's like that account has their own headlines, their own captions, their own edits.
That's not me.
They asked if I wanted editorial control.
I said, no, that's your guys' account.
So you guys do it.
But they clipped that one.
That got him going.
That really.
And did you see?
And did I not call it, though?
Did I not call it yesterday?
Dissidents Guys' Praise? 00:08:49
owen shroyer
That now all the Trump loyalists are going to be attacking him and mad at him and everything.
I mean, that was too easy to call, but still.
The babe Ruth, political media.
Here we go.
Jose Navarro.
Although many claim to be religious, religious practice is at an all-time low, fueling cultish behaviors and a desperate cling to idols.
Do you agree?
Well, I don't know if I could say an all-time low.
But yeah, I'd say directionally, generally speaking, I definitely agree.
It's crazy.
Honestly, it's crazy what Trump has done to these people, isn't it?
It's got to be the most cultish thing we've ever seen.
I mean, it's worse than Obama.
It's, I mean, who's ever running this show at this point, got to give him credit.
The directors, the screenplay, the dialogue, the writing, the script.
I mean, you guys, you got these people completely brainwashed.
So I'll give them credit.
Tell us more about the third temple, Hegzeth.
Yeah, Hegzeth is pro-third temple.
I didn't pay attention.
Did they destroy Obama too?
Well, Obama sold out.
He eventually started bombing the Middle East too, but he did do the Iran deal.
So I don't know.
That's a lie.
It's bless Abraham Seed, which is Jesus.
We're getting into the theological stuff from earlier.
Boomer salad tossing slopaganda.
Yeah, we're talking about, I'm assuming this is about Bachman that we played earlier.
Ugh, what a mess.
Carol Sanderson, C.S. Huntington Beast, Colorado governor set to grant clemency to Tina Peters and release from prison.
Oh my gosh, really?
Oh my gosh, I haven't heard this.
Oh, thank God.
Colorado governor says he'll commute sentence of election denier.
President Trump pressured Governor Jared Polis, who said he's considering the release of Tina Peters.
The last high-profile 2020 election medaler still in prison.
Oh, screw you, New York Times.
Democrats are outraged.
Oh, boy, that's going to be an interesting one.
Oh, God, please free her.
Please free her.
Thank you for that.
God is using Iran to show us what he thinks of Israel.
Crazy out there.
What do the Q people say?
Goodfellow.
Hello, Owen.
I've been listening to you for the last five years.
It's good to see you out on your own.
I haven't went back to the AJ show since you left.
Keep spreading the truth, bro.
Never sell out.
You have my word.
You have my promise.
Hello, Kitty.
Good lord.
I used to really like Michelle Bachman.
This has reached absolute ridiculousness.
A lot of that, right?
A lot of people we used to like and think were one of us and turned out.
Again, that's why I look at this.
I'm like, is this Q thing real?
I mean, it's like the Trump administration being this bad or the Q thing being real, which has the highest odds at this point.
Because this Trump thing is so bad.
And there's so many people that have totally exposed themselves as literal foreign loyalists, if not outright foreign agents.
I don't hate boomers.
I just have boomer fatigue.
Well said.
Did you hear the Shiites believe this war is an Armageddon too?
How many messiahs can this war summon?
Oh my gosh.
Well, hey, Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ is coming out soon, too.
So it's all weird.
Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they get out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor.
War pigs got to go.
Joe W. Do dissidents guys give you a lot of praise on last episode.
Ever talk to them?
Do dissidents, guys?
Have they been brought up before on this show?
I feel like they maybe were brought up before.
I'm looking up their YouTube channel.
Got a big following over there.
I don't recognize that.
I don't recognize them.
Well, if they're if they're giving me a lot of praise, then, well, I have to like that, right?
Got to like that.
So I'll check that out.
Thank you.
I, for one, am really tired of winning.
Stop with your sarcasm.
Don DoCello, bring the coffee shop home with three nails coffee centered on Jesus and small batch roasting.
No additives and freshness you can taste.
The official coffee of the Owen Report is blackout coffee.
So that's how we work here.
That's who sponsors the show.
Lord, we ask you reunite Owen and Alex.
Amen.
Plandemic anniversary is coming up Friday the 13th, 2020 and 2026.
Yikes.
Yeah, well, that's next Friday.
Alpha jerk.
I don't want anyone from this administration taking over for Trump.
I don't think any of them are going to be electable either.
I don't.
Somebody needs to tell this guy it isn't a war.
Yeah, they can't even keep their message straight, but they don't care.
Honestly, at this point, I don't think they care.
I think they know the general public is so brainwashed or stupid or indifferent that they just don't even care.
They just figure they can do whatever the hell they want.
It's like, oh, it's not a war, but it's definitely a war.
I mean, right?
It's clearly a war.
I mean, we're bombing them, but it's not a war.
And I told everybody, I told them all in my administration and Caroline Levitt with the lips that go boom, boom, boom.
It's not the only thing, if you know.
But we told them, don't say it's a war.
We sent out the memo to Congress because you can't call it a war.
Because if you call it a war, guess what?
I'm probably getting impeached.
Not good.
So don't call it a war.
Otherwise, it'd be totally illegal, maybe criminal even if they called it a war.
So we said, don't call it a war, but we all know it's clearly a war, right?
Am I right?
I mean, it's definitely a war, but don't say it's a war.
LA Patriot, the White House says Baron Trump is too tall for military services, yet NBA star David Robinson at seven foot served in the Navy.
Well, I don't think they actually said that, though.
I think that did they say he was too tall?
I think that was just an online joke.
But don't worry, I doubt Baron or Hair Netanyahu will be serving in the military.
But it's also not fair to put their parents' actions on them.
But it is fair to say, oh, look, they'll start a war, but they're not going to be sending their own lineage.
So there's fairness and there's fairness on both sides, but it's not fair to say, oh, just because Yair Netanyahu is hanging out in Miami on the beach in a penthouse, he's bad because his dad is starting a war.
And same with Baron Trump in college.
So, you know, just keep it fair.
They have the terrain advantage in Iran with all those mountains, I assume you're talking about.
Shiloh's retreat.
Oh, and I was wrong.
The Antichrist will be Jewish.
Dr. Taylor Marco just Marshall just clarified, and he also shares this is not a just war.
You said it was going to be Trump yesterday.
Well, maybe they're both the same.
LA Patriot, the amount of U.S. deaths being reported is a lie.
Yeah, a lot of people feel that way.
Acts of Boniface.
China has to be pumped, depleting U.S. military munitions, damaged military bases, low troop morale, strained relations with allies, and they just watch.
Well, that's because China doesn't drain resources in foreign countries and foreign wars that don't benefit them.
It's one of those issues where you got countries that have good foreign policy, bad domestic policy.
I wonder where troop morale is at.
I wonder where troop morale is at.
And I wonder even how much access they're even allowed, and I say allowed to have with the outside world.
Whole Thing Can Shut Down 00:13:52
owen shroyer
Like, are they allowed on X to see what the conversations are right now, to know what people are saying and thinking?
I wonder about that.
Expose 305.
Jesus's kingdom can only exist inside of us, and he is here now inside of us believers.
This world will only bring forth death always.
Luke 17:20, Matthew 25, 40.
Thank you.
Expose.
Is it possible Israel was set up to help the Rothschilds and Raytheon, Dyne Corp, GE, etc.?
The politicians were selected to push a narrative for money, lots and lots of money.
Yeah, I'd say it's beyond possible at this point.
It's almost totally proven now.
Alan Al-Sama.
Thank you, Owen.
I'm an Eastern Christian woman from Babylon, Baghdad, Iraq.
We also agree with you.
My sister's husband is from Texas, former Marine.
Keep up the good job.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
That's a diverse audience I got there.
Thank you.
My kingdom is not of this world.
John 18:36.
Jerusalem above free mother of us all.
Galatians 4:26.
Undeclared war, the new fiery, but mostly peaceful.
Nice.
Nice.
DZ.
Trump is either totally clueless, idiot, or cash and dance shell shock.
Look, we're from seeing Trump and Lindsey Graham on a video.
I can't imagine what they got on Lindsey Graham.
I mean, you can just tell that guy, you know.
The first episode.
You guys ever seen the first episode of Black Mirror?
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Marcon, 1776.
I really miss the clownhorn in your show, especially these days.
Please bring it back.
Do I really not have a clown horn?
I don't think so.
I think I looked before.
Yeah, no clownhorn.
Why don't I have a clownhorn?
I never use my soundboards.
Is this even working?
Way to go.
Now, now my soundboard is cooked.
Now it doesn't even work because I'm looking for a clownhorn.
Now I'm distracted.
I'll try to put it on the board.
Bredo Jacko.
Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, Serbia are epicenters of election machines and stolen elections.
Please provide insight and do an expose on this.
Well, that was supposed to be the big expose in Venezuela, and then we heard nothing.
Andrew La Pency, Mr. Launch Code's wife, Melania, was introduced by Epstein.
A lot of people believe that.
I'm not convinced, but a lot of people, that's some potential circumstantial evidence there.
This is too much, Chad, for one screen.
Purposely avoiding the missing trillions from 9-10.
Are you talking about Donald Rumsfeld, the missing trillions congressional testimony before 9-11?
Oh, and your guest speaker was very articulate.
However, he lost me at hello.
You're only allowed to over me.
Israel Masad committed 9-11 and stole trillions.
You know, I would say 9-11 was an inside job, but there's a lot of weird stuff coming out now that I'd never heard of before.
I mean, the dancing Israelis, everybody knew about that.
Now we learn of other people that got exclusive footage like they were filming, knowing it was going to happen.
Apparently, there were some art students in the building now that we're learning about, but I don't think that was a solo effort.
I think there were multiple parties involved in that deal.
Gen Z will be the most based generation by far.
Are you, Gen Z?
Bobert may be handsy in theaters, but she's a legend for asking Hillary about Frazzle Drip.
Well, I'll tell you, Bobert is as hot as advertised.
Owen, grow your hair out a bit more, and MAGA will think you're Jesus.
Then you can become president.
it's that easy.
What do you guys think?
How's the, how?
How's it coming along here?
Are we hair maxed yet?
Not quite.
Audix crew.
Thank you, Owen, for your service to the truth.
Have been listening to you since the war room days.
Haven't missed an episode.
Day one, listener of the Owen Report, and will always be until sign-off.
Thank you, man.
I don't plan to sign off anytime soon until I croak like my soundboard over here.
Look up Vietnam War and my country, Iraq War.
Same deception, lies, different dates.
It's always the same lie.
We keep falling for it.
So here we are.
Looks like fishback trading Waffle House for IHOP.
Is it real?
Do we have a confirmation?
Now there's the CIA's YouTube on DARPA's internet.
The whole Facebook thing is weird now, too, with the Zuckerberg deal and that movie that apparently he stole it or whatever.
Can Bondi be held criminally liable for not prosecuting Epstein criminals since there is clear evidence of criminal activity?
We need Candace for AG.
Candace for AG.
There's one.
What do you think the odds are that a deal could be cut?
Trump cuts a deal with Cornyn for his votes.
Trump endorses Conan, Cornyn.
Trump cuts a deal with Paxton to drop out and then replace Bondi as Attorney General.
Into the looking, into the looking glass.
But Bondi will be subpoenaed and if not fired.
Sam White, no, I'm going to cash in Bondi next, please.
I think more are going.
I do.
I think there will be more.
Zionism has been an imminent threat for 47 presidents.
Now we're getting, now we're cooking.
MLDC, I dare you to read the racist chat text on air.
This was bad whether you like it or not.
Why?
Why do I care?
So fire them and get rid of it.
Like, what are we doing here?
Why do I care about some racist text threat?
Fire them and that's it.
Get rid of them.
Bye.
Like, what is this disavowing?
This is all woke crap.
unidentified
What is this?
owen shroyer
Oh, I disavow now.
It's so embarrassing.
So cringy.
Be a monument.
Not a moment.
Love you, Owen.
Thank you.
Mako TV, request for Ryan Dawson as a guest.
I've been seeing him go on some other people's shows.
Dinesh Walker.
You're the best, Owen.
God bless.
Thank you, Dinesh.
Naza, who's lying harder?
U.S., Israel, or Iran?
I don't know.
I don't trust any of them at this point.
Nice photo change.
If Trump's going to kick hornets' nets in the Middle East, can we get unlimited, unrestricted Second Amendment to protect from millions here?
I get, I can't get it because of a drunk AB 10 years ago, even though I'm eight years sober.
A drunk AB.
I don't need to know the details.
So why can't you get your Second Amendment back?
Damn shame.
Gig Gaziano.
You never read my chat from yesterday.
Bojo Gracias.
Did you not get it in on time?
If you didn't get it, I read them all.
Tommy Robinson is in Texas.
Get him on if you can.
No.
They say MAGA means magician in Latin.
I've heard that.
Oregon Outlaw, God bless you.
Thanks for telling the truth.
Thank you.
Owen Joan Schroyer, paper shuffling soundbite too.
Oh, no, Well, my deal is dead here.
No, not the soundbite.
I think for that, we need to have a real one.
I guess the soundbite would be easier, though.
Maybe we do a soundbite.
I like the idea.
We're going to monitor the situation.
Sleepy Audi, win network for the win.
Keep up the good work, Owen.
Thank you.
Jasers, Jasers Jay, do you think Israel will use a nuclear weapon if this drags out longer than a month?
I think we're going to see.
I said it earlier.
Based on the way things are going, I think we might see a big bomb we've never seen before.
Yeah.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Because I don't know what else you do in Iran.
They tried the AstroTurf uprising.
Didn't work.
They've killed all the leadership.
Still not working.
Now they're trying to send in the Kurds.
I don't know what they're going to do.
I will storm Ben Swan who.
Ben Swan was amazing.
Great guest today.
Two realities.
The one our rulers and owners created for themselves, and the one they created for us to respond to what they're doing the way we're responding.
I get what you're saying.
Shauna, Republican backlash forced the reversal of the trans.
It only proves that if the MAGA tards would stop licking his boots, Trump would be forced to listen.
I'm grateful for your voice.
Thanks, Owen.
Godspeed.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That is right.
If I keep super chatting you, money, will you live stream indefinitely?
I can do this for quite a while.
Come on.
Don't you get enough?
Are you not entertained?
unidentified
Oh.
owen shroyer
You guys know what happens, especially on a week like this, where it's like really heavy content, and it's been like that this year.
You guys got to understand, it takes a toll.
I'm not complaining.
I love what I do.
I'm blessed.
I'm very fortunate.
I'm doing what I want to do.
But you got to understand, it takes a toll.
I'm going on, I'm an hour, I'm worth three and a half hours in.
Oh, Owen Lee fans around the corner.
Thank you for a decade of the truth, Owen.
Keep fighting.
Thank you, Jacob.
Thank you.
It's never enough.
It's never enough.
Oh, I can't even.
I don't even think I can do the outro music today.
I'm taking a risk, guys.
I have no idea what's going to be happening.
The whole thing can shut down when I do this.
Are we still on?
resetting trying to reset my sound board here i can't go out I can't go out with no music.
I'm not going to do that to you guys, even though we are out of super chats for today.
Let's see if this thing resets or not.
We might just have to go out.
Might just have to go out raw, raw dog it doesn't feel right.
So, all right.
All right.
Have any new bombs dropped?
LA Patriot.
Sick of hearing Owen say Trump was just only into hot women.
B.S.
Well, what do you think?
What else do you think he was into?
What evidence do you have that he was into anything else?
And that's what I see.
I guess you might argue his daughter with those weird clips.
I think we're dead here, guys.
I think we're dead here.
But the whole thing didn't shut down.
I was concerned that might happen.
Actually, let me try one more thing.
I can't go out.
I can't go out raw dogging it.
That's not our style.
Maybe there's another fix.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's called troubleshooting on air.
That's what we call that.
We're doing it live.
20-hour break.
See you tomorrow.
Friday.
God bless and Godspeed.
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