Dr. Ben Tapper and Owen Shroyer examine Epstein files revealing Bill Gates’ alleged discussions on engineered pandemics for profit and population control, including ties to Planned Parenthood via eugenicist vaccine claims like HPV’s ovarian toxicity links. They warn of CRISPR-Cas9 exploitation—Gates’ investments in ticks/mosquitoes as potential DNA vectors—and question mainstream medicine’s $220B cancer industry’s focus on managing rather than curing disease, citing VAERS flaws and the 1986 Vaccine Compensation Act shielding Big Pharma. Alternatives like SHIELD supplements (reishi mushrooms, turmeric) and fasting are promoted, while RFK Jr.’s "Make America Healthy Again" movement earns a C-minus for progress but falls short on transparency. The episode frames distrust in institutions as justified, urging deeper scrutiny of health agendas and tech risks like EMF radiation from Neuralink or Apple earbuds. [Automatically generated summary]
Friends and family, we have an excellent Ask the Doctor show for you today with Dr. Ben Tapper.
And I have to say, the Epstein files coming out right before this interview with Dr. Tapper is extremely timely, I must say.
And you're probably saying, this is ask the doctor.
What are we talking about the Epstein files for?
Well, you might be surprised at how all encompassing, including in the health world and the scamdemic, the pandemic from a couple years ago, these Epstein files have.
And if you go back, if you've been following Dr. Ben Tapper's work for a long time, you know that this is a world that he's dabbled in.
This is a world that he's been talking about for a long time.
So we're going to kind of look at that, some of the things that they discussed, and then real world science with some other work he's done in the past.
So without further ado, we bring in Dr. Ben Tapper.
You know, Doctor, it's really incredible when we went through everything in 2020 with the pandemic and the excellent team of doctors at the wellness company, yourself, all of you guys were standing up for our freedoms, standing up for our truth, the entire team of doctors at the wellness company.
And you said, you know, something about this pandemic feels off.
It just doesn't add up.
And then the more you guys did the research, the more you realized something seemed something seemed off.
Something seemed like this was by design, by plan, all the different points of evidence.
Now they're talking about it in these emails.
We see Bill Gates.
We see other people talking about, oh, how can we plan a pandemic?
How can we make money off of a pandemic?
For you to read that stuff, just from A, the perspective of just being a doctor, caring about your patients, caring about humans' health, but B, somebody that was there with the entire team of doctors here at the wellness company who sponsors this show.
What was that moment like reading that stuff as if we had any doubt, but still to read it and to have it confirmed like that?
Well, I mean, I'd love to say it's vindication, you know, but I feel like it's really the people that are reading these articles are really, I feel like already like-minded in that area.
But I just pray that this reaches the masses, you know, and I just wonder, and I asked the question, what is it going to take for, you know, you have the people on the left side of this whole political stance.
They're just deaf and blind.
And they, you know, they just don't want to look into the information.
They just think it's conspiracy.
But again, I think that this is confirmation to what we've been saying all along.
I mean, excuse me, in these Epstein files, they discovered that they had a blueprint, a 20-year blueprint for a pandemic to turn into a profit machine.
And that's what this has been about.
It wasn't about health.
This was there by design to bring in a vaccine and to profit billions of dollars.
And that's what they are doing.
And that's what this is uncovering.
So I think that, you know, if this makes the masses, it would cause a revolution overnight.
I mean, I, you know, I'm in a massive lawsuit against the CCDH and Imran Ahmed right now and the Trust and News Initiative, which is basically, you know, the government colluded with these, with social media and news stations to silence and suppress information that could have saved lives.
And so they censored and suppressed myself and 12 others, known as the Disinformation Dozen.
I've been a victim of government oppression here in our own country.
And so this needs to be talked about, but no mainstream news is covering any of this information.
Why?
Because they're complicit.
Make no mistake.
They're complicit at covering this information, censoring this information.
They're guilty.
So, you know, this is why it's important that we support independent journalists like yourself and other people out there to get this information out to the people because you're not going to hear it on the mainstream.
And again, when we go back to 2020, it was like, okay, hold on a second.
Let's take a pause.
Let's not shut down the world here.
Let's not run with the panic button that they're trying to get us to push with the mainstream media and the death charts and the red alerts and everything else.
You know, we said, hey, let's take a pause.
And now when you realize, okay, there was some sort of conspiracy to launch a pandemic.
There was some sort of conspiracy to try to use that to then centralize power, whether that be with the World Health Organization or some other institution.
And then, of course, in the background of all of this was one of the giant most biggest wealth transfers in the history of the world.
Quite frankly, it was so damaging to the U.S. economy.
I think it's permanent damage.
You know, we all see the charts with the inflation and everything going right up there after the pandemic.
That damage to the economy was probably permanent.
But okay, let's step back.
Let's talk about humans' health.
Maybe it's a good thing.
Maybe it's a good thing that a lot of people lost faith and trust in these institutions, like some of the ones you've been battling.
Maybe it's a good thing because they have been lying to us so much.
You know, the Maha movement within this Trump administration, RFK Jr., we've learned a lot about the food pyramid, people's diets, things that we've been eating that's not good, the truth about vaccines.
So it's kind of this, it's kind of this weird catch-22 where it's like, okay, well, we're glad that you're not trusting the liars anymore.
But then it's like, how do we restore faith in any of these institutions to say, hey, it's okay if we're promoting the right things?
Oh, and I don't think we should put our faith in these three-letter organizations, you know, the government officials at all.
I mean, you know, I think Thomas Jefferson said it best that, you know, if the people let the government decide what foods they eat, what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in a sorry state as those souls who live under tyranny.
We cannot trust the government when it comes to our health.
We need to take our health in our own hands here and make better choices.
And we can't trust these three little organizations.
I mean, look at the food pyramid for crying out loud.
Like you brought that up.
If you were to follow that food pyramid, which so many people have done, it's a recipe for autoimmune disorders.
It's a recipe for chronic disease, inflammatory issues.
Why?
Because all those foods on there are basically government subsidized foods.
And it's going to, you know, bring disease.
A lot of them are GMO modified foods.
I mean, it's glyphosate-rich foods.
I mean, for crying out loud, six to 11 servings of grains and whatnot.
And so, again, we cannot trust these three little organizations.
And to restore trust in these three little organizations is not the solution.
I think we need to trust the God-given intelligence inside our body that we can be well if we give the body what it needs and really take health in our own hands and eat well, move well, think well, pray well, and we can be well.
There was, I think, a lawsuit filed against the Gates Foundation for, I mean, he promoted, I believe, you know, a certain either HPV vaccine, I forget the vaccine he was promoting, and so this was for health.
But they found ovarian toxicities associated with his vaccine, and it was hindering the reproduction system and these females.
They targeted women from 15 to 35, which is your, you know, your reproductive age, which is also very concerning.
So if you want to go down the rabbit hole, I think, you know, and Bill Gates has said he believes the world is overpopulated and they can reduce that population through vaccination.
You know, I think that homeboy is out there trying to, you know, really go after, you know, the population.
And he's, he's admitted it.
I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what he's trying to do.
And so, you know, this is why he's involved.
His dad had a hand in Planned Parenthood and he passed on that, his beliefs on to Bill Gates.
And so this is, you know, this isn't really a conspiracy anymore.
It's out in the open.
I mean, he's out there saying that.
He's giving TED Talks, talking about it.
And you look at the mRNA vaccine.
There was a study out of Japan, a pharmacokinetic study that talked about how they had 64 ovarian toxins associated with the mRNA vaccine.
And so I believe, and now we have more reproductive issues than ever before.
And that is not by coincidence.
Look at who's investing in the vaccine.
Bill Gates himself.
He even said that he's getting a 20 to 1 profit from investing in these vaccines.
It's one of the weirdest things, too, when you could be like, hey, I think we've seen multiple cartoons, whether it's like the sheep going to get their fur clipped or like turkeys going to get slaughtered for Thanksgiving.
And the one turkey stands up and he says, hey, they're going to slaughter us.
And then the rest of the turkeys say, oh, shut up.
You know, this is all free and loving.
It's a little worse than that, though, because we'll say, hey, you know, there's a group of eugenicists or they believe in population control.
And they basically are poisoning our planet.
They're poisoning our food.
They want to make you sick and stupid to kill you off and destroy your bloodline.
And they'll say, oh, that's some conspiracy theory.
And it's like you said, you can go to one of these TED Talks.
You can go to many presentations where they talk about how, hey, there's too many people.
We're causing pollution.
We're causing climate change.
All these other issues with the planet.
So we need to get the population down.
So it's like, here they are saying it.
But when we say it, we're the giant conspiracy theorists.
So I think it is important that you have to understand their philosophy.
Their philosophy is they believe they've ordained themselves the stewards of this planet.
They think there's too many humans, but they're going to be nice and kind and kind of subtle about it.
Like, yeah, we'll throw some poison in some vaccines.
We'll throw some poisons in the food and the water.
We'll dumb them down.
We'll keep them distracted and slowly but surely we'll kill off their bloodline.
And this will be better for the human race on the planet.
That's their philosophy.
They say it.
But when we say it, somehow we're conspiracy cooks.
And his wife has had a few words to say about this in the recent days with Bill's name coming up multiple times in the Epstein files.
Of course, Bill offered a pretty strange response here recently as well.
I don't want to focus on, let's say, the desperation of Bill Gates to get some action at Epstein's Island, but there does seem to be a larger coordination here.
And maybe for Bill, let's say there's different parties involved.
And maybe for Bill, he's looking at, okay, how do we get vaccines into people?
How do we profit?
Maybe some people want to run some eugenics program, depopulate the planet.
Either way, we saw them talking about these things in the Epstein files.
It's like, do we need any more evidence, Dr. Tapper?
Do we need any more evidence that COVID and the pandemic was a scam?
It was a plan.
They did this to us intentionally.
It's like this is just yet another piece of example where you can say, all right, here you go.
Here's the world elites that were all parroting all the different COVID tyranny at the time.
Here they are talking about how they want to simulate a pandemic.
I mean, it's, you know, I say we already have the evidence on, to be honest with you.
We already had the data manipulation.
We already had the, you know, the, the, the dress rehearsal, the event 201.
I mean, just look at the legislation in 2019 leading up, excuse me, to the pandemic.
They had bills coming after our rights and freedoms to take away our rights to refuse a vaccine.
You know, and you had the ACIP, which, you know, in 2019 say that, you know, they're going to try to force vaccination, but, you know, through compliance.
And so they, and then the World Health Organization, they made threats about the unvaccinated too.
And so all this was leading up to the pandemic.
And then, you know, the event 201 was enough evidence to raise suspicion for an investigation because they had a giant dress rehearsal two months prior to anyone knowing about COVID-19.
I mean, somebody needs to be investigating some of the things that we've seen in these emails, including one thing.
And I want to talk to you about this because you recently reshared this video.
I want to share this with our audience here in a second from your YouTube channel, Unlearning the Lie, Dr. Tom Cohen on DNA, Genes, Sickness, and Real Science, episode 34 from the Dr. Ben Tapper channel on YouTube.
I want to tie that into some of the other stuff we saw in the Epstein files where they're talking about super beings or manipulating designer babies or trying to do this stuff.
It's like we've seen that kind of thing in pop culture before.
Now we see it in the real world with these emails.
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All right, so Dr. Tapper, uh, I'm gonna pull this up.
I'm not gonna play any of the audio here, but uh, I'll pull this up on screen and you can talk about this.
And uh, we're gonna we're gonna really dive deep.
I think we'll really dive deep as some of as far as this conversation is concerned.
We saw them talking about it sounds like superhumans.
I mean, quite frankly, it sounds like something right out of the Stranger Things TV show.
Uh, if anybody's ever watched that, what were your thoughts?
I don't know if you've seen that before.
What were your thoughts when they're talking about designer babies, uh, designer DNA, and all the different ways they want to try to manipulate people or give them superpowers?
Had you ever heard or seen anything like that before?
This is nothing, um, again, nothing new is under the sun here.
And I think that when we hear these things, this technology does exist, you know, and I believe that they're tapping into, you know, they're trying to play God with the body.
And they have a technology called CRISPR Cas9 technology.
And this is technology that basically can alter, you know, basically tap into the genome, tap in and play God with our genes and really alter the expression of the genome.
And so, to give you an example of this type of technology, they created a spider goat.
I'm not sure if you've ever heard of that, but basically spider goat.
So they, you know, to give you an example of that, and you know, you know this, but your listeners listening here, you know, they took this goat, basically they use CRISPR-Cas9 technology.
They go in, they splice the genome of the goat with a spider.
And then the offspring of that goat now is this modified animal.
It looks like a goat.
It acts like a goat.
It eats like a goat.
But they can tap in and say, we want the milk of this goat to produce a protein from the spider web.
And they can get, and now they got this product that's either nine or 90 times stronger than steel.
And basically, it's through this technology.
So, you know, they can modify anything with this technology.
And it's a slippery, slippery slope.
And I always say if this technology gets into the wrong hands, it's going to be very, very scary because, you know, I don't trust our government.
I don't trust big pharma when it comes to our health.
And when you have a company or let's say let's Pfizer, for instance, who tested pharmaceuticals on Nigerian children without their parents' consent, okay, one of the very, very many violations that they settled in a court over.
If an industry like that, who doesn't profit when we are well, they profit when we are sick, gets this type of technology, they'll be able to turn disease on at will.
And they'll be able to turn it off.
And this is how they're going to present it.
They're going to be able to say, hey, we can cure these different ailments that we didn't have cures for.
We can cure neurological issues that we've never had cures for and do a lot of fascinating things with it.
Yeah, well, another thing in that vein is we've heard about the rise of some tick that can make you, you can't eat meat anymore after you apparently are bitten by this tick.
I've seen some grumblings about that.
I haven't gone really too deep into that rabbit hole.
I guess maybe I'm just avoiding that for my own carnivore, you know, carnivore desires here to think that that can't be real.
But are you saying you think that they can have something like that, that they can, whether it's a bug biting you or injecting you with something, and then it can basically change your entire genome, essentially?
You know, when I was in college, my roommate was brilliant and he could, he literally hacked into the video game and he could change the bullets around and on the game and change different things.
And it was on her, I was like, how did you do that?
How did you know how to tap into the game and modify it?
And that's exactly what CRISPR does.
I mean, CRISPR goes in there and you can modify it.
You want blonde hair.
They can do things.
You want your offspring to have this strength, this gene, the myostatin gene, whatever it may be.
They can play God with the body, make no mistake.
So my point is they have that technology and they will probably use it.
You know, when they, again, if there's an incentive for us to be sick and that's when they profit, make no mistake, they will make us sick with this technology.
And I think that is happening.
You know, and what I say, and how can they get this in the body?
And they're doing that through, I believe, vaccination.
And so when, you know, I always say what the seeds are to the farmer to bring a crop, vaccines are to, you know, big farmer to bring disease.
And so it is a concern when we, you know, look at all the autoimmune disorders, look at all the neurological developmental delays, demyelination diseases, cancers that are associated and been tied back to this vaccine.
So, and I always going back to Bill Gates, you know, I know that he's not a man of integrity, but when you have, why is he so concerned with ticks or mosquitoes, things that actually bite onto the body or get into the body for maybe for a prolonged period of time?
I mean, mosquito, when it bites you, it's sitting there for, I mean, sometimes maybe a minute at most, but maybe less than that.
But a tick can be on the body for a long time without you even knowing it.
So, you know, why is he investing into maybe modifying these ticks or even getting into that?
And why is he talking about it?
A, because it can get into the body.
So he views those little insects as almost vaccinations.
He's even said that on his TED Talk.
He views these mosquitoes as little vaccinators.
And to me, Bill Gates, you know, needs to stop.
He just needs to go on his island and just leave us all alone here, right?
He can hang out there permanently with the rest of them.
Maybe that's the solution.
Just send him over to Epstein Island permanently and say, hey, you guys liked it so much.
You can do whatever you want here.
Now, obviously, and I pulled up some of these stories here.
Technology can be used for good or for bad.
I have a lot of these debates when it comes to AI.
So certainly, you know, you could see this benefiting humanity to a certain level, but it's always about who's going to have control over it, right?
You can give a hammer to a guy and he can build you a house.
You can give a hammer to the wrong guy and he can bash your brains in.
And so I think that it's, you know, it's kind of the same thing where it's like, how do we make sure that when this technology becomes mainstream or becomes, let's say, perfected, if we can even use that term, how do we make sure that the people that are going to utilize it and use it are not going to do it against humanity or do it for their own empowerment?
Because that seems to be the case.
It seems to be the case with a lot of these different technologies that we've seen over time.
It's my big concern with AI.
So, you know, do we want to throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Do we want to say, hey, we have to make this stuff all illegal to avoid it getting into the wrong hands?
How do we, how do we, you know, walk this tightrope?
I'm curious if you can even delve into these numbers or these phrases that we saw.
They talked about stage three, stage two in some of these Epstein emails.
I can even read some of this for our audience and for you.
I'm wondering if you have an interpretation of this because, again, my, you know, when I hear this stuff, I'm thinking like, this sounds like Stranger Things.
They're trying to make like, you know, super babies or something.
It talks about here in one of these emails with Epstein.
Amon Paris was about to write you and it popped up.
She is a classic stage three in the model outlier who is intelligent, was traumatized when she was young.
Traumatization, again, part of the theme of the Stranger Things with these developments that they can have with special abilities.
Now gradually coming into her own, becoming self-realized, starting to develop special abilities.
Do you have any interpretation of this?
Again, my interpretation is it sounds like it just sounds like they're in the Stranger Things lab, you know, traumatizing these kids, trying to invoke some sort of a chemical or psychological reaction to then release some sort of a special ability that might be dormant in humans that they're trying to tap into.
I think that I view this all through spiritual lenses.
And so when I think special abilities, I think maybe, you know, there might be some interpretation of the spiritual realm on that side of things.
But again, I think it's all, you know, really spiritual when you really look down and deep into this.
You know, we read these emails.
Again, this is so evil what these people are doing.
Again, and I think I view it from a 30,000 sky foot view.
And again, it's very much they're tapping into the spiritual realm here with people.
I mean, we're spiritual vessels, right?
And I think you look at fluoride and the calcification of our pineal gland, all these different things are a real thing, you know, and so people are spiritually, I would say, dormant.
They're spiritually numb anymore.
And I think that has a lot to do with the fluoride in our water.
It has a lot to do with, and that's by design.
You know, the evils that be here are trying to make us completely spiritually bankrupt.
You know, we're not just humans having a spiritual experience, but we're very much spiritual vessels having a human experience.
So when I hear special abilities, maybe there's some spiritual discernment that she's coming about here, realizing that these people are evil bastards and that they're, you know, she's seeing that.
Well, and I'm going to go real deep into the conspiracy world with you here.
You know, people interpret some of the ancient human history when we see these hieroglyphs, like, you know, humans with cat heads and stuff like that.
And they think, well, maybe at some point in human history, we were actually trying to merge different species or even humans with different animals.
And I'm curious, it's like, is this just is this just some level of dark human history repeating itself?
These mad scientists in a lab with virtually no oversight.
You know, there's no oversight of humanity.
There's no oversight of some government, even if there was a good government to do something like that.
It's like, are they trying to find different abilities?
Because we all know different animals have different abilities.
There's all kinds of different animals that have all kinds of different abilities, whether it's sonar or other type stuff.
It's like I could see these mad scientists, if they're not stopped, getting to that point.
I could seriously see them getting to that point where they say, hey, let's try to make a human with sonar or let's try to make a human that can see in the dark or all these different abilities that different animal species might have to try to use CRISPR technology or the merging of different human species DNA with different animal DNA.
I mean, it's like that's where if these mad scientists are not stopped, if they're willing to create viruses in a lab and release it onto the planet and nobody's going to stop them, I mean, what's going to stop them from going there eventually?
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But when it comes to cancer, you know, it's obviously a scary thing, right?
Nobody wants to die.
And you go to the hospital or a doctor, and they're always going to kind of tell you what they were taught.
And there's a lot of debate about what really works, what doesn't, is the best route to go, what the medical industry is going to tell you, and mainstream medical industry is going to tell you is the best route to go with a different option, a more homeopathic option.
People talk about parasites and fasting and there's all kinds of different solutions that they offer.
When you have this debate or you contemplate this stuff yourself, where does your mind go?
If somebody comes to Dr. Ben Tapper and says, you know, I found out I have cancer, what does Dr. Ben Tapper think?
Well, I say, look at the treatment, you know, the prognosis in this country and it's terrible.
It's lousy.
Again, the cancer industry, the big pharma, they don't want to cure cancer.
They want to manage it.
And that's really what we're seeing.
The cancer industry is a very, very profitable industry.
I think last year they brought in over $220 billion.
That's what the B people, $220 billion, the cancer industry brought in last year alone.
So they don't want to cure that industry.
They want to protect it.
They want to manage it.
And look how fast they brought this vaccine during COVID.
And it's supposed to save us from COVID.
And if the government really wanted to cure cancer, they would.
But we're not curing it.
The chemo treatments are absolutely lousy.
They poison the body.
Their whole methodology of curing this is to tear the body down, to radiate, to cut things out.
I always look at the wilted plant.
What does the wilted plant need?
You look at these cancer allopathic docs.
They're going to say, oh, you need to medicate it or vaccinate it or radiate it or cut off its leaves.
And really, the plant just needs water and it can be well.
And that's the way I view the body.
That's the way I view disease and cancer, especially, giving the body, building the body up.
That's what we need to do.
There's only one thing any physician can do for a patient, and that's to remove the obstruction to healing, thus facilitating it.
And so giving the body what it needs and it can be well, I firmly believe that.
So whether you fast or supplement or healthy lifestyles, how many people do you know focus on healthy lifestyle choices and then their cancer started to disappear?
Whether cancer is parasitic, like you said, or fungal, I have a theory that it might be even fungal in nature.
I study mushrooms and I study a lot of, I have a mushroom farm at home and it's fascinating.
I always say what the nervous system is to the body, the fungus is to the forest.
And so I always tell patients fasting, focus on lifestyle choices.
There's things you can do out there to really help eliminate.
And obviously, eating well, moving well, think well can really help.
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Membendazole, right now, a good uh, a good option.
If you're thinking about a parasite cleanse, I highly recommend it.
You will notice uh, at least a little difference, maybe a big difference depending on how bad it is.
Uh, you might notice that, but again, it's just like I.
I think that people are just struggling to trust anything that the mainstream medical institutions tell them they're looking for, for anything outside.
You know, if you get into, if you get into really late stage cancer, you know, by then is it too, is it too late, do you think then, or can you still look at some of these alternative options?
You know, hope is a the most powerful drug there is, and so if you're, if you're still breathing, there's still hope.
Um, you know and, and so you know, the Wellness company has a like you brought up the ivermectin and the Menben.
How many people are using that now and actually are talking about how their cancer started to disappear?
So what does that tell you?
I mean the ivermectin, it's a parasite um basically uh, medication And, you know, so many people are talking about.
A lot of medical professionals are saying that cancer is parasitic in nature.
And I know people personally that were taking this combo and their cancer disappeared.
And then, you know, you talked about the shield product.
Well, Dr. Victory from the Wellness Company, she formulated that whole supplement herself because she defeated cancer herself.
And that, you know, there's mushrooms in the shield.
There's the reishi and the, you know, the turkey tail.
There's also, you know, if you look at the turmeric, you know, look at all the mountain of literature that talks about turmeric and the association of its, you know, the benefits of fighting cancer.
Turmeric is very, you know, it's very powerful.
It's anti-inflammatory.
It can help.
And there's so many benefits to that.
So the wellness company has some really good options to look at.
And you would think, too, with all the philanthropy of Bill Gates and all the millions of dollars we've spent on cancer research that we haven't been able to cure it, it almost makes you think that we're not really looking for a cure, Doctor.
Well, if you look at the Agudi mice, we study the Agudi mice because why?
It's very, you can replicate the results very, very conveniently and it's very efficient and also very persistent with the results.
You know, if you feed them a certain diet, if you keep them pinned up, they're going to get fat, they're going to get sick, they get cancer, and they die.
So we study the ago mice.
I believe there was a doctor out of Australia that said, why are we doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results?
Isn't that the very definition of insanity?
Basically, he took these agouti mice, he put them in a different environment, actually brought them together instead of isolating them.
He changed up their diet and he put a play pin in there so they're very, very active.
It gave them a healthier diet.
And what do you know?
They didn't get sick.
In fact, they were healthier.
And their offspring actually changed colors.
Their coat started to express genetically this different coat.
It was a healthier coat.
And so he was persecuted and said, you know what, don't ever bring that up again, basically.
And it got brushed under the rug.
And so if you, you know, it's again, we have to look through different lenses here.
If we're trying to do the same thing over and over and over and expect a different result, this is the very definition of insanity.
We need to change things up and view cancer differently.
Why does cancer have a blood supply?
You know, does anybody ever think about that?
Why does the tumor have a blood supply?
You know, the body is innately very smart.
You know, there's an innate intelligence that's telling your heart to beat your lungs to breathe, your cells to communicate.
There's that innate intelligence.
I mean, if you have a cut, you put a band-aid on that cut, the body heals.
We don't ever question it.
We don't ever doubt that it's going to heal.
And so, you know, cancer, we just look at the tumor and say, oh, that's bad.
We need to cut it out.
We need to look at cancer instead of just compartmentalizing this disease.
We need to look at it as a systemic type disease.
And that's how we should go about it.
It is a systemic type illness and approach it from that angle instead of just compartmentalizing it and just trying to remove the tumor thinking that's we got rid of the cancer.
Why were we sick in the first place?
What's wrong with the body and what's causing that?
And that's really focusing on the cause instead of the symptom.
I could pull the gentleman up and he has a memorable face because he has some sort of a skin pigmentation issue in his face.
So he kind of has a memorable face for that.
And so I think it in an odd way, it kind of helped the story go viral because people were like, wow, that's an odd looking gentleman.
So, you know, my concern is, and I think we've even seen some of this in the past.
It's like when you get close to actually solving a major health issue, let's say cancer, and then the industry that makes billions of dollars off of this sickness hears about it.
You know, sometimes you got to be concerned for these people's health.
You got to be concerned that there might not be an accident or the building where all of their work and science burns to the ground.
And so is this something, though, that you think could develop further and maybe we can find something that can work in humans?
You know, I firmly believe there's a cure out there.
I believe that there is absolutely the body can cure anything in an instant if you give the body what it needs.
And I believe that firmly full well.
And I always say that, you know, your body's ability to heal, to overcome cancer and other diseases like COVID and other ailments is far greater than really anyone has ever permitted us to believe.
We just got to give the body what it needs.
And I believe we can heal anything.
So really looking at those treatments and those protocols, I do believe that I believe there is a cure out there.
As we get more science and technology developments here, we're able to really zoom in on the process of how the body works even more.
We're able to zoom in, zoom in.
We're able to zoom in on even how a baby develops in the womb.
And it's like the closer up of a view we get to this stuff, like watching white blood cells take over or watching DNA chains form and break down and reform and all this stuff, watching a baby build up in the womb.
To me, it's like you see this stuff.
How can you not believe in design?
How can you not believe in divine creation when you see this stuff?
And we're kind of getting into this new realm.
And people have been saying this for a long time, but it's kind of becoming undeniable.
If anything, science proves divine creation.
Science proves that there is a God that designed us with these unbelievable innate abilities.
So that's what I see.
When I see these different videos, DNA chains and all this stuff, babies forming in the womb, to me, it just reasserts that, yes, God is real.
I mean, just like Romans 1.20, I believe it's Romans 1.20 that talks about seeing God's creation and denying his existence.
I mean, two cells come together in the womb and then form this miraculous, you know, baby forms, right?
And, you know, there's been, I believe, videos and we've seen that there's almost a light that occurs during that interaction.
So absolutely.
Another thing, too, I always say by design, and if you look at, I believe it's the plant hopper, grasshopper, if you look at this tertin grasshopper, okay, there's actually gears in the pelvis.
Okay.
And so if you search, you know, plant hopper, grasshoppers, pelvis, you can see the gears in the pelvis.
And if I were to show you metal gears and I asked somebody, hey, how much you want to bet that this was man-made?
You know, they would bet the farm.
This was man-made, absolutely 100%.
Well, if I were to show you a picture of the gears in that pelvis, you would say that was by design, intelligent design.
There's got to be a designer.
You want to, you have any doubts?
Well, why do we say that was just by accident?
There's an evolutionary, just random occurrence that just happened.
That's absolutely the dumbest argument ever.
It takes more faith to believe that actually.
So I'm glad you brought that up because that's something that I defend all the time that, you know, God made the body and he heals the body.
And there's that and he put in innate intelligence in all living things.
Well, and it probably won't be too long until we actually see robots walking around, who knows, walking around some of these hospitals, doctors' offices.
And maybe it's for a good thing.
Maybe it's, again, it's a tool.
It can be used for good or bad.
But that's like if I, let's say, see a Tesla Optimus robot and I'm like, oh, wow, that thing must have evolved from a lug nut, right?
Oh, yeah, that Optimus robot evolved from a lug nut.
A lug nut was just sitting there one day and then over a million years, it became an optimist robot.
No, obviously, somebody made that.
That's kind of the analogy that I think of for people that still believe in the theory of evolution that to me has been totally disproven.
Do you think a lug nut can evolve into a robot?
No, of course not.
Somebody built that robot.
Somebody took the elements and built a robot, just like God took the elements and built human.
We saw some rumors, some conspiracy theories about stuff they were putting in the vaccines to basically turn humans into, you know, putting something into our blood, whether it's graphene or something else, putting something into our blood to send us some sort of a wireless signal to control us.
There were some weird videos about people walking around in graveyards and picking up Wi-Fi signals.
I wonder, again, with the CRISPR Cast 9, you look at the DARPA connection there and what they want to do.
I mean, they want to create a world where there's absolutely, there's no cell phones.
Everything is just this universe that we're all, there's no separation between technology and the world we live in.
So, and I just, and I think that they're trying to get it tap into the nervous system and our thoughts.
I think they're trying to control the thoughts.
And I think of a day where we might live in a time when, you know, if you think about a crime, you're guilty, even though you didn't commit it.
And I think that's something.
But, you know, looking at the vaccine and what they put in the body, the one thing I am concerned about are these fibrous, basically their obstructions in the vascular system that they've been pulling out of.
I've talked to many, many embalmers and they have said some of these embalmers have been doing this for 30 years.
And they said they've never seen anything like this prior to the COVID vaccine.
Basically, you know, these embalmers, they go in, they just put embalming fluid in.
Well, a lot of these embalmers, they couldn't get the fluid in.
And so there was an obstruction somewhere.
So they had to figure out where the obstruction was coming from.
And then they put a lot of pressure and these things would come out.
Some of these I've seen that were almost three feet long.
And again, a lot of these embalmers, I was very skeptical when I heard this.
And I called all these different embalmers and I was just doing my own investigation.
And they said that, you know, they've never seen anything like this.
And in fact, at one time, they were pulling this out of 60 to 70% of bodies that they were embalming, which is, you know, a lot of people say, well, you can get white clot formations through heparin exposure, but these are not from heparin exposure.
This is an amyloid protein, which means the amyloid is usually from neurological, you know, toxicity or neurological degeneration in some fashion.
Another thing that shocked me, and I was even more shocked to find out that these stories were years old.
Are you sharing your brain with Apple?
Now, Apple's earpod earbud technology, they have a patent for it.
This isn't a secret.
There's a patent.
It's public patent.
You can read it.
And it talks about how, to put it simply, that when you're wearing your earbuds, they can measure your brain waves.
And I kind of tie that into some other stuff that NeuroLink is doing right now, where they're able to put wires and stuff in people's brains and they can play video games and kind of control a computer and all this stuff.
It's all mind-blowing to me.
I see this stuff and I almost like don't even believe it.
I'm like, really?
Really?
Do we have this ability to read your thoughts?
Really, we have this ability to control a computer or something with your brain.
It's all kind of mind-blowing.
I struggle to believe it.
And yet, the stories are out there.
The science is out there.
The technology is out there.
Where do you think this goes, doctor?
I mean, this is not, we're talking about really, if this stuff expands in 50 years, humanity doesn't even look like humans anymore.
I forget the unit that they were measuring in, but at the time I had this unit that measured radiation.
And you see some of these influencers doing this now.
They'll take this little meter and they'll go to the phone.
They'll go to the earbuds.
And it's off the charts safe levels from EPA safe levels.
And, you know, and I remember FaceTiming on my phone and I put it on there and that thing just went bonkers.
It was acting like it was broken.
It was just like danger zone, danger zone, danger zone, too close.
And it was just too much radiation.
You know, and baffles my brain that these things can be used day to day and the earbuds put you know right between the brain and nobody even bats an eye on it.
They think it's fine.
There's no way.
So if you're going to use anything like that, I always have the wired headphones.
Plug in.
You know, don't put the phone next to the head.
I don't like that.
I always talk on speaker.
I always use the wired headphones when I'm talking.
So it's just too much EMF exposure, radiation exposure.
I mean, look at the amount of neurological developmental disorders, demyelination diseases, excuse me, the never before.
I mean, and I think too, anxiety or mental illness.
You know, people are so on edge, you know, and I think a lot of this, this radiation or the EMF exposure puts us into a fight or flight condition.
I think the sympathetic overload is a real epidemic.
The amount of stress that we have more than ever before, you know, and this is why it's important to, I think, supplement with SHIELD, you know, from the Wells Company has a phenomenal supplement, the SHIELD, the Ashwagandha.
A lot of those things in there can really help combat, you know, the stress effects of the body.
And so, again, you know, looking at, you know, you said the Wi-Fi router, that's something too that gets overlooked.
Just unplug the router at night.
You can put these, I think there's timers that can shut the Wi-Fi off at night.
But I always try to unplug the Wi-Fi at night.
I put my phone on airplane mode.
I don't like it next to my head.
I don't like it next to the bed.
I always put it on airplane mode and I put it away from where I'm sleeping.
So it has the Ashwagandha, which is a very, very powerful supplement to help really combat the stress effects of the body.
Again, the turmeric, there's some, you know, it has a capsule form and also a powder form you put in your water.
I highly recommend that.
So that's, and again, it was developed by Dr. Victory, who combated cancer on her own by doing, you know, healthy lifestyle choices and the supplements that are in this shield product.
She combated cancer and beated it, beat cancer by following this protocol.
So not saying it will cure cancer, but can it definitely help combat it?
I'm going to give them that because, A, I'm very, very thankful that vaccinations have been at the forefront of this conversation.
The administration has been great.
Second day in office, Trump talked about how we need a $500 billion AI government surveillance system with, you know, and try to promote more mRNA technology.
So that right out of the gates was very frustrating.
But the fact that the vaccine schedule is diminished, they get a passing grade for that.
The fact that we eradicated the whole board for the ACIP, that is, again, those are bonus points.
The things that I would like to see, again, we were up against, they were up against the Goliath.
So I'm giving them grace.
But what I would love to see is the eradication of the 1986 Vaccine Compensation Act.
That act needs to be eradicated.
We need to hold these pharmaceutical manufacturers liable again because if you have a vaccine injury, you know, you have to file through the VARES, the vaccine events, adverse events reporting system, which is a nightmare system.
It's also a felony to falsify report.
I don't care what Peter Hotez and them say, oh, VARES can't be trusted.
Only there can be falsified reports.
It's an absolute felony to falsify up report.
And only the most dedicated, pissed-off mama bears file a report.
And so, but we need more exposure to that system.
We need to make it easier to file.
We need to train physicians on how to file because they're not trained on that.
And they don't even, they just tell patients that have an injury to go and file it themselves.
But they also need to be trained on vaccine injuries.
They're not recognizing vaccine injuries.
You know, I argue that most physicians don't even have never looked at a vaccine insert.
They couldn't even tell you three diseases that are associated with an adverse reaction to the vaccine.
So train these physicians to recognize vaccine injury when it walks through the door.
And so that's what I would like to see out of this administration.
But they, so if I, if I were to give them a grade, I'm giving them a C minus, a passing grade, but it's not, they could do better.
I just, I just wish they would just get rid of the schedule.
And then, you know, why did, Owen, answer this.
Why do we need permission to refuse a vaccine?
Why do I need permission?
Why do I need why do we need so-called exemptions to refuse a vaccine?
And that's, again, that goes to show you the stronghold that big pharma has on our healthcare system, the monopoly that they have on our strong, our health industry.
You know, they think that these vaccines are so safe and that, you know, if I'm unvaccinated, I'm a threat to public health.
And that is a very slippery, slippery slope.
And that's how they get this legislation to pass because, oh, we could have a great crisis if we don't, if we have an unvaccinated population.
You know, herd immunity is a myth.
It's herd mentality.
I was getting a lot of flack because I was trying to expose this herd mentality, herd immunity theory, which is a theory.
Okay.
They talk about, you know, we need a 96% vaccine rate for herd immunity to work.
And that is absolutely hogwash.
Look at how many damn raccoons I have in my forest.
I have a million raccoons out there.
They're thriving.
They're thriving.
We have so many coyotes.
I'm out in the woods.
We have so many, you can hear them going going bonkers.
In fact, the county, the DNR said, you don't even need a permit to hunt them because they're a nuisance.
They're in nature doing what God intended for them to do.
And they never had a single vaccine.
And see, this, once you expose that and realize the craziness of the vaccinations and what's in these vaccines, that's another thing that needs to be exposed.
If you were to look at like the MDCK cell lines, the Medin Darby Cocker Spaniel kidney cell lines that are in these vaccines, the monkey cell lines, the SV40, look at the WI32, which is the Windsor Institute 38 cell line, which is coming from female cell lines.
Look at that.
If people were to look at the ingredients in these vaccines, there would be a health revival overnight and everyone was stopped vaccinating.
But nobody wants to take the time to look at the adverse reactions, the package inserts, and the true ingredients in this.
And go look at Stanley Plotkin's deposition.
So if you're listening, go look at that nine-hour deposition and talk about how many abortions were utilized during the manufacturing, development, and production of these vaccines.
That was a long-winded answer for you, but it's kind of like you look at the ingredients on the foods at the store, start looking at those, and all of a sudden, well, you're not really eating them anymore.
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