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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Tuesday, December 23rd, 2025.
This is the Christmas special version of the Owen Report.
You know, guys.
I'm in the Christmas spirit today.
I already did a debate earlier today.
I really don't even know how much news we want to get into, to be honest.
But there is certainly no shortage of news.
Merry Christmas.
The gifts that you're opening today.
The Epstein files.
Oh my.
Oh, my.
What a nightmare.
Right before Christmas.
You can barely even believe the timing of it is organic.
It's a Christmas special.
unidentified
It's a Christmas miracle.
owen shroyer
You've got our greatest ally, Israel, right now, just in total, total takeover of, I don't even know, everywhere.
I mean, the Gaza Strip, the North, the South, the East.
They're moving into Syria, everywhere.
Israel's just going in everywhere.
They're settling everywhere.
They're kicking Palestinians out of their home.
This administration is too busy, too distracted, indifferent, whatever.
They're not dealing with that.
They don't have the time.
And the administration has been predictably silent today.
Predictably silent.
Except for one statement that Trump just released.
He wants you to know that the Trump Center, the Trump Center Awards will be broadcast tonight on where else but CBS Paramount.
What a joke.
The Christmas special, the Epstein files.
The Paramount Trump Center special.
It's all about Trump this, Trump that.
We're going to have Trump vodka.
We're going to have Trump hats.
We're going to have Trump perfume and Trump cologne and Trump watches and Trump shoes and Trump pharmacy and Trump AI and Trump nuclear.
Trump, The only thing with Trump's name on it more are the new Epstein files.
My goodness.
So those are the two big stories.
I don't know if I can get to the news.
This is technically the final Owen report of the year.
Now, we may hop on here and do a live stream.
We may do some other broadcasts, but this is technically the last scheduled Owen report of the year.
So we may just keep it loose.
We may just keep it loose.
I can review a lot of the stuff that we have going on.
I've got some news on the desk.
But I don't know.
In the name of the Christmas spirit, I'm just, I don't know.
I don't know if I'm feeling it, guys.
I got to be honest.
Kind of just want to hang out, keep it loose, maybe take some calls.
Maybe have a special visitor in studio later, a special guest in studio later.
I will say this, though.
I'm a little hesitant as far as how to consume and report on these Epstein files.
I kind of want to play this a little conservatively to see how the administration is going to react to all of it because it is quite wild, you have to say.
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unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
The Epstein files Christmas dump.
My goodness.
Now, folks, I am skeptical, I will say.
I'm skeptical as to what it is we are seeing.
I'm not sure.
A lot of this stuff is obviously extremely damning.
I mean, really bad.
And it ties into the Epstein survivors with some comments today.
Some have reached out to me with comment.
It gets into Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide, where documents now state there is now a statement where on July 23rd, 2019, at 2.15 a.m. Inmate states cellmate tried to kill him.
So these are the logs for people that don't understand.
I can put this on the screen now.
This is basically a log, and it works different in each prison, but they have the checkup routines.
So in this cell, when you're on suicide watch, it looks like they have a 15-minute schedule.
So they do their 15-minute cell walk.
They walk the block and then they go back and they fill out their paperwork.
And it says inmate states his cellmate tried to kill him.
Now, folks, again, there's a lot of stuff that's becoming clear, and it's hard to know what to believe.
It really is.
All I can do is put the pieces together and look at the picture and then try to decide what it is that I'm seeing.
And I'm not sure.
I got to tell you, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what I'm looking at.
Because if I look at it from face value and I'm just consuming this and saying, okay, this is what we got, it looks really bad for Donald Trump.
There's no other way to put it, folks.
It looks really, really bad.
And if you recall, it was Epstein's brother who said he was not suicidal.
And it was Epstein's brother who theorized, he believes that Trump had Epstein killed.
And I got to tell you, you look at some of the circumstantial evidence, it's not so far-fetched, guys.
I hate to tell you, it's not so far-fetched.
Now, I'm not reaching that conclusion.
I'm just saying there is circumstantial evidence that would lead you to reach that conclusion.
He comes back in when Trump is president.
He kills himself with Trump as president.
His brother says he wasn't suicidal.
There's a note in the logs that says he was trying, his cellmate was trying to kill him.
He said, well, why would Trump be interested in killing Epstein?
Well, now the files come out and Trump's name is all over them, just like Elon Musk said.
And maybe you get an idea.
But I don't think we have the full picture yet.
I think that we have an idea.
I think that we have a lot of pieces on the board, but I don't think we have the full picture yet.
Now, of course, the Trump administration is predictably silent on all of this today.
I suppose you could fathom that Trump anticipated that all of this was coming.
And that's why he called it a hoax earlier this year.
But you know, there's a little too much here for me to believe it is a total hoax.
So maybe there is a middle ground.
There's no denying that Trump was friends with Epstein.
There's no denying that Trump was a billionaire playboy and liked women, and I'm sure was with a lot of them.
And obviously, I don't have the access to that level of understanding of Donald Trump and how he operates.
But, you know, I've rubbed elbows in a few elite circles, let's say.
I've been around some rich, powerful people, famous people, men that do very well with women, whether through natural charisma or a fat stack of cash.
And so you kind of get an idea of how they, you know, how these things go down, how these things operate.
And I'm sitting there last night and I'm going through all this late in the evening.
And I knew today was going to be a complete debacle.
And I'm thinking, you know, a lot of men have the same instincts.
A lot of men, when they get into power or get access to women, they have the same instincts.
And if they have the same access, they usually engage in the same behavior.
I don't blame a man for liking women.
Believe me, I get that.
But I'm sitting up here and I'm reading all of this in the Epstein files.
I'm not sure what to believe.
I can look at things that Trump has said.
I can go off of just Trump's words and take it at face value.
We got a pretty good idea of how Trump feels about women.
We see that Trump is surrounding himself, I guess, in his eyes.
I mean, you know, beauty's in the eye of the beholder, but, you know, Trump has surrounded himself with beautiful women.
Whether you think Christy Noam or Pam Bondi is your type or not, it doesn't matter.
Trump has surrounded himself with beautiful women.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know, I don't know where Melania is right now.
I don't know if she's living in the White House.
I don't know if she's in New York.
Does anybody know that?
Does anybody know the answer to that question, by the way?
I've got the chat open today.
I'm foolish.
I'm foolish enough to have the chat open today.
But, you know, I'm in a Christmas mood.
I'm in a holiday spirit today.
So I'll be a madman.
I'll keep the chat open.
Where is Melania?
I ask this because I'm just sitting here.
I'm looking at all of this and I'm saying, there's no way.
I'm sorry.
But there's no way that Trump is not getting laid.
Do you understand?
Do you get what I'm saying?
I'm just, I'm like, there's just no way.
Now, people have their own relationships.
And the longer you're together or the more you're apart Or the more intricacies of different relationships and stuff.
You know, people handle it all differently.
People handle it all differently.
In fact, I was having a conversation earlier today with a girl who was talking about her friends in an open relationship and she doesn't get it.
I'm like, well, you just never know what people are going through, what they're into, why they make these decisions.
I've never done that, but you know what?
I could understand if somebody feels that that's what they got to do, that's what they got to do.
But, you know, I'm just sitting here.
I'm like, there's no way Donald Trump is not getting action.
And maybe that's part of the problem.
Maybe somebody needs to take care of this guy.
Maybe we need Melania to come in for a snuggle session here.
Get his mind right.
There's some backup.
There's some frustration.
I just, I'm reading all this.
I couldn't help but think it, folks.
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I couldn't help but think it.
Caroline Levitt lips with the boom, boom, boom.
owen shroyer
Alina Haba.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
Again, I'm not insinuating anything other than I'm just curious.
Is Trump really not getting any action right now?
I mean, you see all of this stuff.
Maybe, I don't know.
He's an old man, 80-year-old.
Maybe you just give up.
You know, I'm a young guy, 36.
I'd like to think at 80 years old, I can still take care of business.
Maybe I'm a dreamer.
I'm not trying to be gross here, folks.
I'm not trying to be gross here, folks.
But you're telling me that there aren't women that would play that part in Trump's life gladly?
Of course there are.
And maybe it doesn't even make a difference.
Guys, I'm not trying to be gross here.
I'm just, I'm like, do you understand the implications of what is in these files?
The implications of what are in these files are not good.
And it kind of builds a character profile of a man that likes to have access whenever he wants it, whenever he needs it.
Now, again, I'm not to think about the files yet.
I'm waiting.
I'm going to wait a couple days before I decide to make any judgments here because I wouldn't be surprised if some of it's fake.
I wouldn't be surprised if all of it's real.
I don't know.
But the picture that's being painted here, folks, is, yeah, Trump and Epstein were cool.
They liked women.
And Trump was no stranger to whatever Epstein was doing and all of these different women.
Now, Trump comes out and claims, and he did again this week, and he says, well, you know, we didn't know that they were recruiting women for this island escapade.
He claims that.
I want to believe him on that.
I'd say I believe him on that.
And yet you see some of the files here, and you have to wonder.
You all of a sudden have to wonder.
And maybe things at one point did get a little too close when they were at his club, and that's when he drew the line.
But folks, we're talking about this is a bad look for Trump.
Now, okay, remove the Trump from the equation, remove President Trump from the equation, and just look at it like this.
We've been lied to.
Pam Bondi lied to us.
Kash Patel lied to us.
There's no other way to put it, folks.
Quite frankly, this administration is going to have to do some serious house cleaning.
Kash Patel and Pam Bondi can no longer serve in this White House.
Period.
End of statement, end of sentence.
They might need to be criminally investigated.
Kash Patel might be looking at perjury at the very least.
Pam Bondi, I don't even know where to start with her.
This woman is so incompetent, it's almost unbelievable.
It's almost unbelievable how incompetent she is.
Maybe you make this mistake where they have all the redacted files, but they didn't actually redact anything, and people figured it out, and they're going in and copying and pasting everything.
And all they have to do is paste it into a new document, and all the redacted text is there.
They didn't even redact it.
It's not even properly redacted.
And that's where they're finding Trump's name.
Very serious allegations, folks.
About as bad as it gets.
I mean, let's call it what it is.
Let's call it what it is.
I mean, look at what's on Drudge today.
Again, I'm not telling you to reach any of these conclusions.
This is what is out there.
OK, just on drudge.
And these are all confirmed in the files.
FBI was notified Jeffrey Epstein was killed because he was ready to name names.
He was cooperating with the FBI.
Claims that his death was authorized by Donald Trump.
Claims of Trump and rape.
Many mentions of Trump.
Not a couple, not subtle.
I mean, many mentions, including a lot more flights on the Epstein plane than we were originally led to believe.
A quote, and this is where it's like, I don't know, folks.
Our president also shares our love of young newbile girls.
Flew on the Lolita Express many more times than we knew.
DOJ scrambles to protect president.
Well, they've been doing that, and they've obviously failed miserably.
So, folks, I don't know.
I'm not telling you to reach any conclusions.
These are the worst claims that are now in these files, and people are still pouring through them, and we don't even have them all.
And now, what do you think is happening?
I guarantee you there's total panic and chaos because Pam Bondi is now going to have to make a decision.
Either she's going to stay loyal to Trump and not release these files and risk going to jail.
And somehow I have a weird feeling that it's even more complicated than that.
Know what I mean?
You know, life has a funny way of complicating itself the more you try to get out of it.
You know what I mean?
The more you try to get everything you possibly can out of life, the more life tends to complicate itself.
And you know, part of the challenge in life is finding that balance, folks.
Not to get all philosophical on you here, but it's true.
It's true.
Maybe you can relate to that.
I'm somebody that tries to squeeze the most out of life.
And perhaps I've learned from my past and my younger years from that philosophy that, hey, you know what?
Sometimes you got to know when to squeeze and when to let go.
Because when you're squeezing, when you're squeezing all the time, no pun intended, but I guess it works here.
When you're squeezing all the time, life can tend to get a lot more complicated than you would like it to be.
And I know we all want the squeeze.
So Pam Bonnie's trying to protect President Trump, but now the law is against her.
Now she has to release the files.
She's not doing it.
She's risking arrest.
She's risking impeachment.
Who knows what's going to follow?
You can only imagine the conversations that are going on between Trump and Bondi now.
I'm sure Trump's not happy that the redactions failed.
I'm sure Trump is telling her not to release the rest of them.
And Pam Bonnie's probably sitting there saying, I have to.
And you signed the law.
By the way, Mr. President, you signed it into law.
And obviously, now there's, I'd say, no doubt.
Their play here is they are the victims.
Epstein's clients are actually the victims.
And I suppose you can understand they're saying, we didn't know we were getting blackmailed.
We didn't know we were getting spied on.
We didn't know they were underage.
We didn't know this, whatever.
We thought everything was above board.
We thought everything was cool.
We thought it was just a party.
So that's their angle: they're saying that the clients were victims, but they lied.
They lied.
The FBI was investigating 10 co-conspirators with Wexner.
Jean-Luke Brunel also killed himself in a prison, by the way.
One of the co-conspirators.
So, no, they were investigating this and it got shut down.
Now, you can assume once they figured out Epstein was an asset, that's when you shut it down.
But they were doing the investigation.
And these files implicate many men, many clients, minors, trafficking, all of it.
It's undeniable.
So they tried to say we're redacting all of it to protect the victims, the victims being the clients.
So, again, I don't know if this is real or not.
I could see.
I could see some of these being a hoax.
Epstein Penn's letter to Larry Nassar that Trump also loves young nubile girls.
I don't know.
That could be a hoax.
Could also be real.
Rape claims, many more Epstein flights.
Mar-a-Lago party for prostitutes.
A mysterious subpoena in 2021 relating to the Maxwell investigation.
And then all Trump can come out.
All Trump can come out and say is it's a distraction.
It's a distraction From the success of the Republican Party.
Oh, yes.
The success of the Republican Party, please.
Please.
Now, when Trump is calling this a hoax, does he know for a fact that some of this stuff was fake?
That means that they already knew that this was in there and they were already calling it fake.
So maybe the letter from Epstein to Nassar was fake.
I don't know.
Maybe that's what he was talking about.
Maybe it was something else.
But this thing is such a disaster, such a debacle, such a mess.
This is now part of the Trump legacy.
This is how they conclude year one of the Trump administration.
And the big announcement for Trump is: hey, guys, tune into the Trump Center honors tonight.
You know, the Kennedy Center that he renamed the Trump Center, he put his name up above Kennedy.
Now it just says Donald J. Trump, big up on the building there.
Oh, is CBS and Paramount?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The insiders, Larry Ellison, Barry Weiss, the Israeli loyalists, the Israeli operatives.
Oh, yes.
Tune in tonight, Paramount at the Trump Center.
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It's going to be great.
owen shroyer
He's the master of the ceremony.
This is going to get weird.
unidentified
This is going to get weird.
owen shroyer
I don't think they're going to be able to smooth over this, folks.
Now, you've got some big names supposedly performing tonight.
And Trump has a lot of big name, powerful celebrity allies and friends.
But, folks, this Epstein thing now is such a disaster and such a debacle.
People are going to start drawing lines.
And they're going to say, I can't associate with this man anymore.
This man is now in the Epstein saga, in the Epstein legacy, maybe more than anyone else at this point.
There's no denying it.
And you'd think, well, there had to be a better way.
There had to be a better way for them to handle this.
But maybe there really wasn't, folks.
Maybe it was this bad from the beginning and there was no good way to handle this other than to just say it was a hoax.
It's a distraction.
Don't look at it.
But now you're looking at Pam Bondi and you're looking at Kash Patel and it's just like you guys are now in trouble.
And by the way, what are the odds that this is the main factor in the Dan Bongino in the Dan Bongino quitting?
I would say this is your leader in the clubhouse right here.
And I would say it does go back to earlier this year when they all anticipated that eventually this was going to come to the surface.
They all knew eventually this would get to the surface.
So they tried to do as much damage control before it did, but it's here now.
And say whatever you want about Bongino, his name is not in the Epstein files.
And say whatever you want about Bongino.
I guess other than that awkward TV interview where he said, I've seen the tape Epstein killed himself, which now we find out it was a fake tape.
Did you hear about that one?
The DOJ released an AI tape of Epstein cell.
It wasn't even the real one.
It was a fake tape.
An AI tape of Epstein still.
Oh, boy.
Now you're really convincing me he killed himself.
Now you've really convinced me it was suicide when you're releasing an AI video of his cell to convince us that that's what happened.
No, I think this goes all the way back.
And I think Bongino was at least willing to play ball or be friendly enough to not burn this thing to the ground, but he's also wise enough to say, I don't want anything to do with it.
I'm out.
This whole administration is about to go down with the Epstein files.
I'm out.
unidentified
Not me.
owen shroyer
And you look at the way Trump handled it.
I don't think Trump likes it, folks.
And I think Trump is afraid of where it might go.
And it seems now the only time that Trump is even comfortable is when he's with the Israeli lobby.
Seems that is the only time now where Trump feels like he's comfortable is when he's surrounded by the Israeli lobbyists and Levin and Adelson.
Because the last few times we've heard Trump speak, it's not been good.
It's been clunky.
It's been lacking the typical Trump charisma.
And maybe he thought they could really bury this stuff and it wouldn't make its way out, but now it's out.
Now it's now it's forever.
But here's Kash Patel earlier this year, and this could get him in some trouble.
john kennedy
Ash Akuma interrupting, but I'm going to run out of time.
You've seen most of the files.
Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women to besides himself?
unidentified
Himself.
owen shroyer
There is no credible information.
willie in california
None.
If there were, I would bring the case yesterday.
john kennedy
Ash is too much interrupting, but I'm going to run out of time.
owen shroyer
That statement under oath is going to come back to haunt him.
Now, here's an Epstein victim earlier today who was very pro-Trump and very pro-Trump administration and how they were handling this, who has all of a sudden changed her, changed her stance.
unidentified
Talking about Trump, right?
Just to be clear in terms of pointing the fingers or having yes, exactly.
You said that before that you have never heard anything to implicate him.
Exactly.
It wasn't until I started meeting some of the other women from different countries and different states where I really started to hear their stories.
And of course, as a survivor sister and going through what I went through, I do believe these girls.
But at the end of the day, I am no longer supporting this administration.
I redact any support I've ever given to him, Pam Boni, Kash Patel.
I am so disgusted with this administration.
I think that Pam Bondi and Kash Patel both need to resign.
And I would love to see number 47 get impeached over this.
And I'm just waiting.
Should Pam Bondi be held in contempt, you think, for the release of the city?
He needs to be held more than in contempt.
Absolutely.
Okay, Haley, stand by.
owen shroyer
about trump right i've had epstein victims reach out to me and say the same thing more or less And you know, I've talked to some of them.
I've done the interviews.
I don't want to do the interviews at this time.
It seems a little shallow, quite frankly.
And I just want to wait and see where the dust settles with all of this.
But I've had Epstein victims reach out to me and say the same thing.
That any support or positive movement they felt like this administration was engaging in, they now totally redact.
They now are totally against it.
They think this is a disaster.
They feel betrayed.
And it's just, isn't it strange?
Like, why would he go after Massey?
Why would he go after Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Why would he go after Rand Paul?
And these are the people pushing for the files to be released.
And then it makes sense.
If Trump had nothing to worry about, why would he be so worried?
In fact, I wonder if I can find this clip because it kind of it kind of just got muddied in the water.
You couldn't really, you couldn't really see it for what it was when Trump said it the other day.
But then when you go back and listen to it, and by the way, there's other emails in these files that talk about how the FBI was covering up this case in 2020.
And it looks like that might have been in protection of Donald J. Trump.
Interesting email change shows USAO had major difficulties getting an accurate accounting of the various electronic records the FBI seized from Epstein properties.
Quote, the FBI is completely fucking us on this.
Where did all the evidence go?
Where did it go?
I want to see if I can find it.
Yeah, here's the clip, folks.
Now, after today, when he said this the other day, earlier this week, when he said this, it did not hit as heavy as it does today.
Now, when you hear this clip from Trump, all of a sudden, it hits differently.
Listen to this.
charlie spiering
Thank you, Mr. President.
Were you surprised by the number of photos of Bill Clinton in the Epstein files?
And can you commit to their full number of photos of Bill Clinton in the Epstein files?
And can you commit to their full release by the end of the year?
Some of the victims were protesting that too many of them were retacted.
donald j trump
I know there are a lot of people that are angry about all of the pictures of other people, you know, but I think it's terrible.
Look, I don't like the I like Bill Clinton.
I've always gotten along with Bill Clinton.
I've been nice to him.
He's been nice to me.
We've always gotten along and respect him.
I hate to see photos come out of him, but this is what the Democrats, mostly Democrats, and a couple of bad Republicans, are asking for.
owen shroyer
Bad Republicans for exposing Bill Clinton on the Lolita Express, exposing the sordid behavior of Bill Clinton when he was president.
And now Trump is siding with Bill Clinton as the good guy here?
donald j trump
So they give you their photos of me too.
Everybody was friendly with this guy, either friendly or not friendly.
owen shroyer
Really?
unidentified
Everybody was friendly with this guy?
owen shroyer
Folks, this is ridiculous.
Now I understand he's speaking in generalities.
He's talking about the Billionaire Boys Club.
That's who he's talking about.
He's talking about the Billionaire Boys Club that were above the law that could run around on the Jets with young women or underage women and get away with it.
That's who he's talking about here.
Everybody was on there.
Bongino wasn't on there.
I'm not on there.
I don't know Jeffrey Epstein.
dan in ohio
Do you?
owen shroyer
No, most people don't know Jeffrey Epstein, President Trump.
You're talking about the elite class that Epstein was blackmailing.
This is not an excuse.
And now Clinton is the good guy and Massey is the bad guy.
It gets worse.
donald j trump
You know, he was around.
He was all over Palm Beach and other places.
The head of Harvard was his best friend, Larry Summers.
And Bill Clinton was a friend of his, but everybody was.
I actually threw him out of Mar-a-Lago.
And as a, you know, as a person that was in Mar-a-Lago, I threw him out.
Mar-a-Lago is, this is Mar-a-Lago.
It's the hottest place in, I think it's the hottest place in the world, but it's the hottest place in Florida.
owen shroyer
I mean, folks, look, there's something, there's something broke here with Trump.
Listen, he can't even stop the self-promotion in the middle of a very serious press conference and a totally separate issue.
He's so egotistical and narcissistic right now.
His brain is broken, folks.
There's something broken with President Trump's brain.
I kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago.
By the way, Mar-a-Lago is the best.
It's the hottest.
Look at it.
We're here now.
The best Mar-a-Lago ever, best place on the planet.
The hottest people.
Here we are.
So we're talking about a massive sex trafficking operation, blackmail operation, but we're at Mar-a-Lago.
unidentified
Look at how great it is.
owen shroyer
Folks, he's got, there's something, there's something wrong here, guys.
I'm telling you, this clip is, this is the indicator.
It's not good.
donald j trump
And everybody would come here.
He'd come here.
We actually threw him out.
But no, I don't like the pictures of Bill Clinton being shown.
I don't like the pictures of other people being shown.
I think it's a terrible thing.
I think Bill Clinton's a big boy.
He can handle it.
But you probably have pictures being exposed of other people that innocently met Jeffrey Epstein years ago, many years ago.
And they're, you know, highly respected bankers and lawyers and others.
And they'll end up because of guys like Massey, who's a real lowlife, whose polls are down to about 9%, by the way.
owen shroyer
Folks, this is just an outright lie.
I'm going to replay this for you so you can see how outrageous this is.
Thomas Massey is the lowlife.
Tell me, how many times did Thomas Massey ride on the Lolita Express?
How many times was Thomas Massey's name in the Epstein files?
Folks, I can't believe this.
We have watched Donald Trump, our hero.
We have watched Donald Trump, the American icon that we elected to save this country.
And we've watched him turn into a complete pig, a complete egotistical, narcissistic pig.
There's no other way to put it.
You can handle this press conference without unnecessarily and illegitimately bashing Thomas Massey.
You can handle this press conference without your self-promotion of how great Mar-a-Lago is, but he just can't do it.
He can't help himself, folks.
He's broken.
And you remember a couple of weeks ago, what did I say?
I say, I think this is it.
I think this is the walls finally closing in.
Remember that?
We heard it.
The walls are closing.
The walls are closing.
I said a couple weeks ago, I said, actually, I think this is the walls closing in now.
There's no recovering from this.
I'm sorry.
There's no recovering from this.
This is now his legacy.
Now, he gets some good economic news today.
Nobody cares.
Nobody believes it.
And now I start to wonder.
We already had this break once when he wanted you to stop talking about the Epstein files and you wouldn't do it.
And he said he doesn't want you anymore.
So we already had this break once, and then Trump kind of turned into a dark side Trump.
I have a feeling now, after all of this, if things don't go his way, he's going to get even darker, folks.
And I don't know what that's going to look like.
I don't know what it's going to look like.
But my guess is Bongino won't be the first person out.
donald j trump
Bankers and lawyers and others.
owen shroyer
So here he is talking about, oh, Epstein with the powerful bankers and the powerful lawyers.
unidentified
They're like, oh, nothing to see here.
donald j trump
And they're, you know, highly respected bankers and lawyers and others.
owen shroyer
Probably talking about Dershowitz.
donald j trump
And they'll end up because of guys like Massey, who's a real low life, whose polls are down to about 9% by the way.
owen shroyer
That's a total lie.
His polls are not at 9%.
That's a total lie.
donald j trump
The way in the great state of Kentucky, if you look at Kentucky, Kentucky is such a great place, but I don't know.
They've got a couple of people in there that are very strange in terms of leadership, but Massey's a loser.
owen shroyer
No, no, President Trump.
Strange in leadership is you.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, why do you want to open this box, President Trump?
You're the guy that talks about dating your daughter.
Why do you want to open this box?
Why are you doing this?
donald j trump
And he likes it, and that he works with the Democrats.
owen shroyer
He's just being used by the Democrats because what this whole thing is with Epstein is a way being used by the Democrats to expose Bill Clinton and survivors of sex trafficking and rape.
This is insane.
donald j trump
Of trying to deflect from the tremendous success that the Republican Party has.
owen shroyer
And then he says we're deflecting from the success of the Republican Party.
What success?
Everybody knows the midterms are about to get tanked, Donald.
Your own speaker just said it this weekend that the midterms are going to be a bloodbath.
What are we doing, guys?
This is crazy.
This is crazy.
And, you know, here's what happens with powerful men like this when they get desperate.
They turn to friends and allies and they completely burn everybody else to the ground.
And I'm afraid that's where this is going.
I'm afraid that's where this is going.
and Trump's going to go scorched earth and, and just do whatever.
That's where I'm afraid that this is going.
If this wasn't such a big deal, then I don't know why Trump would be so worried.
It's simple as that.
But he's been worried all year.
He was worried all summer.
He seems pretty shocked, pretty shook about it today, yesterday.
There's no putting this cat back in the bag.
There's no closing this Pandora's box, folks.
And since the very beginning, when he called it a hoax, it's been nothing but a PR disaster.
And he gets no help from Kash Patel, who's running around hanging out with his girlfriend.
He gets no help from Pam Blondie, Bondi, spends all of her time doing makeup and hair for Fox News.
Can't even properly redact documents.
And now the big cover-up is exposed.
The victims they were trying to protect were the clients.
The victims that they claimed were victims that they were trying to protect were the men that were sleeping with all of Epstein's sex slaves.
And now you've given all the power to the victims and to whoever wants to work with them to expose whoever they want.
And whatever Trump wants to say to try to keep this narrative under control, under wraps, and protect himself, it's over now.
It's done now.
Now they can say whatever the hell they want.
They're not going to believe Trump and the people who might have had his back and the people who might have supported him had they handled this correctly and treated his true loyal base and supporters with a little more dignity and respect throughout this process.
then maybe there could be a kind of wall of protection to try to sort all this out before it gets nasty, but that wall's gone.
unidentified
I'm not interested.
owen shroyer
I'm not interested.
He can go.
Maybe they can call Nikki Minaj.
Maybe she can help.
Maybe give another call to Barry Weiss and she can help rig up some news for you.
Give a call to Larry Ellison.
Maybe he can purchase the next news network that's about to drop the Epstein files.
Maybe they'll ride or die with Trump.
Maybe he can give a call to his friend Mark Levin.
Maybe he'll help.
Maybe Ben Shapiro will stand in the gap, stand in the fray for Trump.
His base is gone.
Not interested.
And it just shows how they never really cared about us.
We were always just a tool.
We were always just a stepladder.
We were always just a necessary part of the process until we weren't, and it was time to discard us.
And now here's Trump in maybe a moment where he needs us the most, and we're out.
We're done.
You can't come back to us now.
You'll come running back to Trump.
Really?
Am I going to be carrying the Epstein files as I'm running back?
Are the files going to be flying all around me and papers flying everywhere in files as I'm running back to Trump?
This is a disaster.
This last week.
And I mean, look, I just glad my political instincts are maybe not perfect.
Somebody might say, well, you got fooled by Trump.
You know, I'm willing to even accept that, perhaps.
I'm definitely open-minded to that concept, to that idea.
I wonder, though, I don't think this is what it is.
I think something happened.
I think something happened.
And I don't know if it was Butler, Pennsylvania, or I don't know if it was Netanyahu's first visit to D.C., or I don't know if it was all of his billionaire friends getting in there and laying out the plan for their new world order and how to make kingmakers out of Trump's family.
I don't know.
Maybe it's a combination of all of it.
But somewhere in that process, he left us out.
Somewhere in that process, he cut us out.
Somewhere in that process, Trump decided he's a different man now.
Now, maybe that's me making excuses because I don't want to think I was fooled for 10 years, but I have to look at the results.
And that's what I respond to: the results.
So, who's going to fight for Trump now?
Who's going to stand in the fray for Trump now?
How many people are going to go out and vote Democrat in the midterms just to spite Trump again?
Now it's going to be people on the right.
And now you've opened up the door.
It was closed, by the way.
The door was closed.
The Democrats to run against Trump in the midterms in 2026.
That door was closed.
Now it's wide open.
Now it's wide open again.
And they'll blame Massey and they'll say, oh my gosh, Massey did this.
He exposed the Epstein Files.
Well, here's an idea.
Maybe don't be in the Epstein Files.
Maybe don't lie to us about the Epstein files.
Maybe don't try to cover up all the crimes in the Epstein files.
How about that for a royal idea?
You underestimated your base.
You underestimated what throwing us overboard was going to do.
And I can't believe it.
We're sitting here and the Republicans have the House, the Republicans have the Senate, and Trump is in the White House.
And they've basically just given everything over to the Democrats now.
Oh, sure.
The Democrats will sacrifice Bill Clinton, who looks like death warmed over in 2026, to win the midterms.
Of course, they will.
In case you haven't noticed, the hostile takeover of the party is on.
The new generational left is taking over the Democrat Party.
You think they give a damn about burning Bill Clinton?
You think they give a damn about burning Larry Summers or any other decrepit Democrat creep from yesteryear?
You think they give a damn?
They couldn't care less.
Say what you want about Mamdani.
He's not on the Epstein list.
Say what you want about AOC.
She's not on the Epstein list.
Say what you want about Gavin Newsom.
Is he on the list?
Haven't seen his name on the list.
I don't think I have ever seen a bigger you blew it ever in politics than the year 2025 for the Republican Party.
I don't think I've ever seen a bigger you blew it.
And maybe it was an unwinnable situation with the Epstein files hanging over their head.
But I'd like to think there was a way out.
I'd like to think there was some other way that they could have gotten out of this or handled this without this complete and utter disaster.
But that's where we are now.
And there's only more to come, by the way.
There's only more to come.
And Trump's about to cut himself a check, by the way, for the DOJ investigating him.
He's going to say, I'm owed money.
Folks, this thing is getting so bad.
His son's startup company is getting no-bid contracts.
All of his donors are getting no-bid contracts.
They're giving the donor class the entire cooperating world, ladies and gentlemen, to run it with AI.
They will be the kingmakers with energy, AI, quantum computing, data centers.
And I just feel like now with this Epstein exposure, their crackdown is going to be even worse.
Their crackdown on free humanity is going to be in a self-protection mechanism, and it's going to be vengeful.
And that vengeance.
That vengeance that we wanted to see unleashed on the criminals in D.C., that vengeance that we wanted to see released on the deep state, that vengeance that we wanted to see released against the enemies of America is now going to be released on us because these damn perverted billionaire men couldn't keep their hands off of young women and couldn't stop hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.
And now it's all come crashing down, but they have all the power.
And so their vengeance will be on us for daring to care.
Their vengeance will be on us for daring to call them out and hold them accountable.
This is the new clash.
And now the MAGA split that we're all witnessing, the numbers have now changed.
Believe me, now that all this Epstein stuff is sticking to Trump, a lot of those willing loyalists are not going to be so willing, ladies and gentlemen.
This is all happening a lot faster than they anticipated.
And I always warned, I said, President Trump, if you think these people are going to be loyal, if you think this new cult following is going to be there through the good and the bad, you're in for a rude awakening.
I think the awakening is upon us, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
You're listening to The Owen Report on the Wynn Network.
Navigating between the sane and insane, it's The Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
owen shroyer
All right, we're starting to see the signs.
We're starting to see the signs of exactly what I'm talking about here.
Look at Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports, probably the most accurate pollster in America today.
Trump communities are starting to turn on Trump cheerleaders.
The responses to this were brutal.
Here's the top reply on patriots.win.
Getting real tired of endless exposure of things we already know and nothing happened to fix and reverse it.
Bingo and Brendan Dilley, who I would consider a friend.
He and his wife have always been kind to me.
I have some of their merchandise from their store that I purchased years ago, including some of Breonna Dilley's art.
Fine people.
And I won't say this directly about them, but I do know I would assume that they're a part of this team, but I don't know this for sure.
But I do know that there is a team of Trump influencers that get paid very well.
And I told you about the infrastructure that they built during the campaign where they had a very, very wide-ranging team of digital influencers that were running campaign ads and campaign support for President Trump to win the election.
And I told you yesterday that they have reignited this infrastructure.
So, again, I don't know if this is part of it, but this is exactly what I'm talking about.
Here we are.
Oh, see, we need positive messaging.
So they brought back the infrastructure.
They're telling all their digital media influencers: post positive stuff, post positive stuff.
Talk about this.
Talk about the mess.
Talk about the Democrats.
It doesn't work anymore, folks.
We already won the election.
You can't recycle campaign propaganda a year after the election.
And it was Brendan Dilley and the Sean Foreshias of the world, the cheerleaders, the high leg kickers, the cult members that all attacked me.
And they said, I'm destroying my reputation.
I'm going to regret it.
I'll come running back.
I'm the fool.
I tried to warn you guys, I'm not your enemy.
I'm your friend.
You're one of us.
We're all in this together.
You're not going to get a payout from the AI data centers.
You're not going to get a foot on the ground for Trump energy and Trump AI and everything else.
The money that they pay you is nothing.
unidentified
These people are worth trillions.
owen shroyer
They are using you.
And it's just like they always attack the messenger.
They always attack the person that's trying to help them, just like Trump.
They're all behaving just like Trump.
unidentified
And now what?
owen shroyer
You're going to go down with it?
For what?
Peanuts?
Doesn't matter to me.
I have nothing against you guys.
It's politics.
It's a crazy world.
I wonder if I can actually pull this up.
I don't know.
might have blocked me.
I wonder if I can actually pull that up and read some of these comments.
Yeah, he's just reposting all the Trump slop reposting the Trump Center, reposting the Trump war room.
I wonder if I can find that.
Let me see if I can find that and read the replies.
unidentified
I mean, look at this.
owl killer in virginia
I'm sorry.
unidentified
It's just hilarious, man.
owen shroyer
But I get it.
These people built their personality.
They built their profit center.
They built their persona.
They built their online empire, their digital media empire.
They built it all off of Trump.
So they really have no other choice.
Here's the one.
Let's look at some of these replies.
And this is Brendan Dilley, very popular in MAGA world.
I mean, look, he even tells you, like, folks, look, I don't make stuff up here, guys.
Have you figured that out by now?
I call it like it is.
You're tuning into this.
You're getting the truth.
And, you know, maybe to add a little context so people understand, they'll say, oh, and well, why didn't you comment on this?
Or why didn't you comment on that?
Or what about this?
Folks, I do commentary on what I know and what I understand and what I can confidently present to you.
That's what I do here.
I try to bat a thousand.
So, yeah, sometimes we take a pitch in the dirt.
Sometimes we take a pitch on the outside corner.
Sometimes we wait until we see the strike down the plate or in the zone that we want.
I told you, this is all they've reignited the 2024 campaign infrastructure.
Look right there.
I'm telling you, folks, I know this.
Let's see the comments.
The election fraud has been worse than you know.
No arrests.
The welfare fraud has been worse than you know.
No arrests.
The illegal immigrant invasion has been worse than you know.
No arrests.
The market manipulation has been worse than you know.
Oh, yeah, we know that.
Oh, I'll be telling you something about that next year.
The whole corrupt system is getting exposed.
Now, I did say that too.
I said yesterday that Trump, either intentionally or not, the whole system is exposed.
I mean, everything has been exposed now.
But now it feels like Trump is getting exposed with it.
The comments.
When does anyone go to jail?
Every era has a moment where trust collapses and people start demanding clarity instead of slogans.
Arrests over exposure.
For the love of God, just arrest somebody.
What is being done about it?
This is the split, folks.
This is the split I've been telling you about.
I told you it would happen over Christmas break, and now here we are.
So the Trump loyalists, the MAGA cultists, the cheerleaders, the pom-pom waivers, the people do it, the people that do it for access, the people that do it for money, the people that do it for clout, they're obviously going to stick around.
They have no other choice.
The rest of us are gone.
The rest of us are gone.
And we're not going back.
And they want to play this game.
Like, if we get deep state arrests or fix the country, like somehow that's us losing, that's what we want.
That's why we're pissed because it's not happening.
Oh, yes, please prove me wrong.
Arrest the deep state.
Please prove me wrong.
Fix the economy.
Prove me wrong.
Stop all the foreign aid.
Stop all the foreign wars.
Prove me wrong.
I'm begging for it.
I'll smash an egg on my face when that happens.
I'll find a crow and chomp it down.
That'd be the greatest thing in the world for us to do that.
It's just not happening.
And then here's what I said last night, because they're going to try to pin this on you and say, you're the reason why we lost the midterms, because you're not supporting Trump and the Republicans no matter what.
Said, oh, no, the Republicans will lose the midterms.
So, they won't be able to do nothing.
So, you want the Democrats to win?
You mean the criminals that the Republicans still haven't arrested?
Well, they said the first arrest will shock the world.
Maybe the first arrest is Trump.
That'd shock the world, all right.
That would definitely shock the world.
Do I even want to get into this news?
I got a bunch of news.
Do I even want to get into it?
Is the question, or do I just want to take calls?
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Let me make up my mind while I do this.
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unidentified
All right.
Let me just, this is what you get.
owen shroyer
Pre-use Christmas music?
unidentified
Yeah.
We got pre-use Christmas music.
We're cheap here at the Owen Report.
All right.
I needed something to kind of slow things down, calm things down a little bit.
owen shroyer
Should we just take some calls?
I got a bunch of news.
Is there anything I really want to cover right now?
A lady gets arrested for catching a thief, a crackhead.
You want to see this?
A woman and her father leaving a gas station.
Crackhead steals their phone and takes off.
The woman chases after him and she gets arrested.
The men actually might want to see this.
You guys might be interested.
You need a damsel in distress.
Here she is for you guys.
There's your damsel in distress right there.
You can find her at a facility, a prison near you.
Flight attendant, a 25-year-old flight attendant, stabbed to death with scissors at five-star hotel by X because he thought she was working as an escort.
Oh, boy.
You know what?
This is for the young men out there.
You know, I've actually thought about doing a self-help show.
Would you guys call in for a self-help show?
What would we call a self-help show here?
Listen to me, young men, and I guess old men too.
I think this is an older guy.
Yeah, Albert Morgan was 41 years old.
Stabs a 25-year-old because he thought that she was working as an escort.
Well, folks, even if she was working as an escort, still shouldn't be stabbing her.
And this is going to come off a little cold, but I'm right.
Here's the deal, guys.
Listen, I know that we're kind of sold this Hollywood propaganda about a prince charming, and you need to be warm and loving and cuddly all the time and listen to the woman and cater to her needs and all this other stuff.
Listen, guys, young guys, old guys, listen.
We love women.
We will always love women and appreciate women and we can respect women.
But listen to me when I give you this advice.
Never, ever get jealous because of a woman.
Never.
Never let it happen.
And maybe there's different psychological routes and different paths men might take to avoid envy and jealousy over a woman to the point where you get so occupied or you get so what's the word I'm looking for?
I can't think of the word, not ownership, not dominance.
What is the word I'm looking for here, guys?
My self-help segment is failing here.
If you think that a woman is not being loyal to you or you think that a woman is showing signs or characteristics unbecoming of what you desire in your woman, let it go.
Just let it go.
Do not care.
Do not get angry.
Do not get mad.
Do not get emotional.
Just let it go.
I see these stories all the time, and this is an extreme example.
Possessive is the word I was looking for.
Never get possessive of a woman like that.
Never.
There might be times where you feel you need to take control of a situation, but I'm telling you guys, never get jealous.
Never get mad.
Never.
And if you want to approach it like this in kind of a cold, callous way, but it's true, there's plenty of other women out there.
It ain't worth it.
And if she was worth it, then you wouldn't be in that situation to begin with.
Never, ever let a woman make you emotional.
Ever.
Never, not even once, guys.
That's for high school boys.
That is for high school boys.
Men, never let a woman make you emotional.
Not even once.
Not even once.
Let it go.
It ain't worth it.
And if it was, she wouldn't make you that emotional to begin with.
unidentified
Not in that way.
owen shroyer
Let's see.
Oh, a bus driver is in trouble.
Listen to this.
This is a crazy story.
Yeah, I know.
Epstein files to self-help for men.
Who knows what's happening on the Owen Report today?
It's Christmas.
unidentified
I do care.
owen shroyer
Listen to this story about a bus driver who's now facing fines because she tried to keep her bus safe.
Listen to this.
unidentified
I do care.
I care about a lot.
Caring is exactly what Diane Crawford says led her to serve the Junieta County School District and subcontract with Roar Bus.
don't know what else to do.
I get Medicare and Medicaid now and SNAP.
I had to get all in depresses because of this.
Crawford says her contract with Roar Bus came to a halt on February 1st after she put up this sign, which read, out of respect to English-only students, there will be no speaking Spanish on this bus.
I didn't mean to be racially insensitive or anything like that.
Crawford claims she never got to explain that the sign was put up to encourage safe and respectful behaviors and was directed at a bilingual student who allegedly had a history of riling up other students.
I didn't know if he was bullying somebody, telling them to do something they shouldn't do.
How do you keep control your bus if you have no control?
The district and Roar Bus writing in a joint statement today that the investigation had finished quickly after Crawford admitted to installing the note, writing, quote, the relevant facts of the session were fully known and discussed among district and rural leadership, and that it was, quote, determined that the conduct did not align with the standards and expectations for student transportation providers.
Do you regret making the sign?
Maybe I should have worded it different.
Maybe I should have said bullying has no bullying in any language, but I didn't mean it to be anything but to correct him.
I dedicated everything I had to driving bus.
And it was for the kids.
I love the kids.
A lot of kids love me.
owen shroyer
Heartbreaking stuff.
The country you grew up in no longer exists.
You know, I see the women in the chat saying horrible advice.
unidentified
This advice isn't for you, woman.
owen shroyer
But I should take my own advice and not get emotional.
Whatever you say, doll, whatever you want.
Have fun.
See how you handle that?
Did you hear about not only did Barry Weiss pull the Trump 60 Minute special, they're now censoring it on TikTok, which is, of course, owned by Larry Ellison and Paramount and CBS, Barry Weiss's boss.
Full spectrum censorship.
You know, MAGA used to stand against that.
But here we are.
Huh?
Yeah.
Here we are.
Barry Weiss, who, by the way, put up a bust of herself.
You know what?
I'm going to do a deep tease on this because I may actually do something with this.
But Barry Weiss dedicated a bust of herself to a college.
She dedicated it herself.
Very narcissistic, this one.
She's also tried to get a college professor fired.
Barry Weiss's past is quite strange, but very stereotypical for somebody like her.
She does not seem like a pleasant person at all.
But she made a bust of herself.
And people are laughing because, well, you can see here, you know, Barry Weiss has at least four chins and the bust makes her look like a skinny young woman.
And really, she's fat.
I'm sorry.
Maybe I shouldn't be so mean.
It's Christmas after all.
I apologize.
I'll take my call.
But she's tried to get professors fired.
She's spiking stories.
This woman is.
Ugh.
Boy, oh boy.
Oh, Trump administration to start seizing pay of defaulted student loan borrowers next month.
Nice.
Oh, that'll be great for the midterms.
That's how great the economy is doing.
The Trump administration will start garnishing the wages of student loan borrowers in default in early January.
Nice.
So the people that literally can't even afford a grocery bill can barely afford an energy bill, a car payment.
Now the Trump administration is going to come garnish your wages.
You're going to be homeless.
That'll be great for the midterms.
Way to go, guys.
Smart move.
Whose idea was that?
This one will go over well, too.
Trump is now denying our state critical disaster relief for political retribution because Governor Polis won't bend the knee and transfer Tina Peters.
You know, if there was a fight to take, I would probably take this one.
I would back this one.
It's a sad circumstance, but you know what?
Trump fighting for Tina Peters, I'll accept.
This funding is critical to help us recover from wildfires and floods.
It's truly unimaginable that our president weaponizes every opportunity he has for his own personal agenda.
No, that's what you did to Tina Peters.
I'm glad actually Trump is doing this fight.
Screw you.
Free Tina Peters.
And if you have to rely on the federal government to fix your own city, then that's your problem.
I actually stand with President Trump on this fight.
Good for President Trump standing up for Tina Peters.
Why don't you just release the 80-year-old grandma?
Why don't you just release the 80-year-old grandma from jail, the gold star grandma that you guys are holding as a political prisoner?
Why don't you just release her and you'll get the funds?
You guys are the sick freaks for what you did to Tina Peters.
I support that stand from Donald Trump.
Good for him.
It's about time he fought for the people that fought for him.
Apparently, a man was trying to organize a 9-11 style attack in Atlanta.
Did you guys hear about that one?
They claim an extremist group was trying to plan a 9-11 style attack on Atlanta, but the individuals have now been sentenced to two life terms, so that didn't work.
Did you hear about this fog?
Did anybody see this fog in California?
Somebody apparently collected a sample of this fog.
It looks like an oil slick.
California resident has been collecting samples of the fog taking place because he says it's very abnormal.
As you can see, the fog collected is oily, bubbly, and slimy.
I've never in my life seen fog turn into a consistency of snot or oil.
He's taking it in for testing.
He says he doesn't believe this is tool fog, T-U-L-E, it's a type of fog out there on the coast or anything else natural.
So that'll be interesting.
Remember when they did the same thing in Florida with that fog and it came back with different particulate in it?
Yeah.
Something weird going on in our skies, guys.
Something weird going on in our skies.
I see people in the comments are saying that they saw that too.
All right, let me hit some super chats and then open the phone lines.
How does that sound?
Anthony Aguilar, Trump is the product of the elite narcissistic entitled with impunity.
Beautiful battleships.
I did see that one.
War with Venezuela, endless funds for Israel.
Look up, wise up, rise up, or we're all doomed.
Yeah, I didn't even comment, Anthony, on the best battleships, the fastest, most powerful.
We're going to call it the Trump battleship.
Of course, you are.
I'm sure the ships are great.
unidentified
They look very cool, though.
owen shroyer
Owen, play the clip.
This is from Goatmeat.
Owen, play the clip of Marina saying Trump's a witch.
Marina Abramovich said Trump is a witch.
I've never seen that clip.
I'd have to find that one.
Robert Bickerstaff, they're not laughing at us Panikins now.
Nice.
Ann Pointer, I saw your first episode of War Room, watched for years, and am now so happy to see you standing on business and the truth.
God bless you.
Merry Christmas.
Christ is king.
Thank you, Ann.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate you sticking around with me for so long, too.
Really appreciate that.
Marina Bramitz called Trump a Witch.
Well, I don't know if I would trust her as far as I could throw her.
The panicing one, though, that one got me.
And so, in the spirit of that, in the spirit of the panicing, here we are at Owenschroyer.store.
We're going to have a major shakeup at the storefront next year, just FYI.
I don't know what's going to still be there that's on the site right now.
Some of the stuff will remain, but a lot of it's going to be gone.
So there's going to be a major shakeup at Owenschroyer.store before the new year.
But yes, ladies and gentlemen, we do have the Trust in Panikins shirt.
How many different colors?
So we got options for you here.
unidentified
So that's right.
owen shroyer
They're not laughing at us panickings now.
Well, I don't know if anybody's really laughing, but all right.
Phone lines.
Let's do it.
Phone lines are open on a Christmas classic.
Phone lines are open.
747-255-60.
747-200-5560.
And we'll get you up and on the air.
All right.
First caller of the show.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
sean in new mexico
Hey, this is calling from New Mexico.
owen shroyer
All right.
What's on your mind?
What's your name?
sean in new mexico
My name's Sean.
owen shroyer
All right, Sean.
sean in new mexico
I've actually watched their show for a while now.
I'm a former Trump supporter, voted for him in 2016.
And I'm a Christian, by the way.
And I've never been as pissed as I am right now.
Like, I stopped supporting him back in like 2017.
Because I'm an actual conspiracy theorist, you know.
owen shroyer
An action.
And I feel like what does that mean in action?
sean in new mexico
Well, I feel like him and QAnon really hijacked that movement.
owen shroyer
Okay.
And yeah, well, definitely with Trump.
You know, QAnon has kind of faded away.
But the Trump, yeah.
Trump was what the conspiracy theorists thought was going to be their president, and it turned out to be what the conspiracy theorists thought that they were fighting against as president.
sean in new mexico
Oh, yeah, totally.
Totally.
But I mean, a lot of these issues with him being a sellout.
And like, I remember back in like 2018, I think, he was defending Nancy Pelosi against AOC.
He's like, oh, AOC is showing like no respect to Nancy Pelosi, and she's earned our respect.
Like, the fuck do you mean?
Isn't she on the other side?
You know, and we're seeing it right now again with Clinton, where he's like, oh, yeah, I got a lot of respect for that guy that I called a fucking rapist on stage in that debate against Hillary.
Like, oh, okay.
So now you respect him.
So now I'm supposed to.
unidentified
No, I'm going to keep the same energy.
sean in new mexico
Like, we have routinely seen this guy be a piece of shit and sell us out.
And oh my God, when he handed the key to the White House to Netanyahu back in like, I think 2019, couldn't believe it.
I was like, this?
This is what's happening?
And we're complaining about Russia Gate?
unidentified
What the fuck?
sean in new mexico
I've never seen him dick ride Putin like that.
Sorry, I sound so angry, by the way, but like, this is just insane.
And mind you, it's never been as bad as it is right now.
Like, I do agree with you on that.
Like, it's never been this blatant with his just him just selling out in general.
But I have no idea why it's taken this long for people to just like criticize him.
You know what I mean?
owen shroyer
Like, you know, I look back.
sean in new mexico
It begins to feel like Democrats.
owen shroyer
Well, how about this?
Here's one for you.
You mentioned Democrats.
You could make the case.
I think we're all kind of seeing it.
You could make the case that Trump is actually destroying the Republican Party.
unidentified
Oh, without a doubt.
owen shroyer
Trump could potentially come.
sean in new mexico
Let me give you one more food for thought really fast.
unidentified
I'm Native American and we get free health care as Native Americans.
And that's great, by the way.
sean in new mexico
You know, I enjoy it.
But my issue is that I tell people, other Americans in this country, I want you to have the same freedoms as me.
I want you to have free health care.
And it's not communist to have that.
But somehow we have been lied to a lot in this country to where people are like, fuck Mel.
I don't want your free health care.
I can't have that.
Fuck that.
I'd rather you have it instead of me as a white person.
And it's like, dude, literally telling you to have more.
I want you to have more.
These fucking assholes don't.
owen shroyer
Well, we could all have more.
sean in new mexico
Trump earlier, he said, like, oh, yeah, Biden's a fucking communist.
That's why he needs, he's a radical leftist.
And it's like, really?
I thought he was a corporate sellout, but okay, we'll go with that.
And then when he was asked, like, why won't you support Mandani?
Oh, well, because he's a communist.
He's not like, you know, Eric Adams or Cuomo.
Those guys aren't communists.
And I was like, really?
I would put those guys in the same category as Biden, the guy that you called the communist earlier.
owen shroyer
Well, we could all have more.
And I think that that's the frustration here.
We could all have more.
Everything could be less expensive.
We don't have to pay 30% in taxes so that we can send Ukraine hundreds of billions of dollars and Israel hundreds of billions of dollars and Argentina and Taiwan and everything else.
We could have more.
All of that could be invested in American infrastructure, American healthcare.
We could all have more.
That's the big realization.
Now, as far as Trump, you know, I look back at 2020 and you talk about how you were kind of souring in 2017 and kind of going through it then.
You got sick of Trump in the first administration.
You know, I remember 2020 and getting really upset with Trump because of what he did with COVID.
But then it kind of became such a locally focused issue that it was like, all right, now we're addressing Fauci on the national scale.
And then we're kind of dealing with our local governments that are trying to put us in masks or shut our shops down, whatever.
So we kind of like lost translation that Trump was running the whole thing and allowed the whole thing to happen, even though we did properly have that frustration.
I remember it now, but I remember thinking, okay, Trump did win the election.
He deserves the second term that he won.
And nobody really emerged as a real candidate in the process to beat Donald Trump.
So it was just kind of like, all right, he's in there.
There's nothing you can do about it.
But yeah, the frustration for me started in 2020, how he handled COVID.
And mostly the permanent damage to the economy was done because of the way that Trump handled COVID.
Now, he blames it all on Biden, and that's very convenient.
But really, that happened in 2020 under Trump.
But I don't know.
I look at this and I say, Trump is now on pace to destroy the Republican Party.
Oh, the Republican success.
What world are you living in, bro?
Let's see what happens in the midterms.
But it looks like the Republican Party could be destroyed because of Donald Trump.
But don't worry.
He'll just call it the Trump Party, and that'll be all he needs to do.
He'll sell a sweatshirt or something.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
joel in ann arbor
Hey, Owen.
My name's Joel.
unidentified
I'm from Ann Arbor, Michigan.
owen shroyer
Hey, Joel, can you get off a speaker for me?
We got a lot of buzz in the background.
unidentified
Yeah, give me one.
joel in ann arbor
How's this?
owen shroyer
That's much better.
Thank you.
Go ahead.
joel in ann arbor
Awesome.
So I've been working in government for about a decade now, 34.
So I started when I was pretty young.
And I worked for a contractor.
The first half was for the Air Force.
The second half for five years now.
I've been working for a contractor.
So I've been in it.
I've been seeing what's going on, or I guess just hearing what's going on.
And I definitely think it would have been worse with Kamala Kamala.
I do.
I do.
And I think I'm still saying that even with everything we're seeing now.
owen shroyer
Well, I guess that all depends on what you mean by worse.
But yeah, yeah.
joel in ann arbor
No, here's the thing.
owen shroyer
You know, look, it's an interesting, you know, it's an interesting conversation, but it really is irrelevant because we have Trump.
So it doesn't matter.
joel in ann arbor
Fair enough.
So, all right.
So then, do you really think this is going to hurt the Republican Party?
I think if things were to turn around, if Trump was to give some of the boomer Republicans something they wanted, let's say whatever it is, you name it.
I think they'll forget about it.
You know, I and every boomer that I come in contact with is still glued to their TV.
And whatever Fox News or CNN, whatever flavor they're into, they're going to forget about whatever they hear on X or whatever their kids are telling them.
I think it's until we have a new, until more of our generation is in charge, I think we're not going to, we're going to, we're going to see this, this machine slowly grinding downward.
owen shroyer
I agree.
And actually, what I think might be happening, and I always said that Trump was the boomer's last gasp, but it looks like it's much worse than that.
It looks like it's the boomer political class last gasp.
And it looks like they're just going to go for broke.
So all of these plans that have failed over the years, whatever their plans in the Middle East, whatever their plans on the world scale, centralizing power, global government, all this stuff, all of these plans where they've failed, it looks like they're going all the way.
It looks like they're going for broke on all of these plans, and Trump is going to usher them in.
And they really don't care what damage is done in the process.
You know, the elites like the Trump family or the Ellison family, whatever, they have billions of dollars.
So they don't give a damn what happens with the future of Americans.
They'll be well taken care of.
They got all the money in the world.
They can live wherever the hell they want.
For the rest of us, we're the ones that are going to be left with the scraps.
We're going to be the ones that are going to be left with the scraps in this new world order that they're building that Trump is forcing on us.
But I think the realization that that hasn't hit the political world on the right yet, I think the left has figured it out.
Trying to cater political messaging or political results to the boomers is no longer a winning formula.
It doesn't work anymore.
They're no longer the majority of voters.
So, you know, our generation hasn't really had its time yet.
But eventually they're going to realize that that generation is not how you win or lose elections now.
You're going to have to start catering your messages and your results to millennials, Gen Xers, and beyond.
And, you know, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like you can't do this.
You can't, how many election cycles can we sit here and say, well, at least they're not Democrats, right?
It's like, well, I vote Republican.
At least they're not Democrats.
I don't think that that works.
I don't think that you can, I don't think that drives people to vote more than maybe two or three times in a row.
Eventually, people are just going to say, I'm just not going to vote.
Or, you know what?
I'm just going to vote Democrat out of spite.
You know, this whole, this whole, I'll vote Republican because they're not Democrats.
It's definitely not going to hit this midterm.
I know that.
joel in ann arbor
Yeah.
And I, I, I think maybe switching, maybe switching gears, switching topics, I want to just say, like, so I said I work and I'm a contractor still.
I'm a contractor now.
And I don't talk about politics.
No one, no one knows like which way I lean.
And, but I can tell you everyone I work with is scared shitless all the time.
It's honestly like they're, I, I, I work with rats, like legit rats.
And I even I feel weird saying that.
I don't know.
I doubt anyone I work with is listening right now, but I still have still my clearances.
And I, I, everyone hates Trump.
And it's like this, everyone has this, this, this level of Trump derangement syndrome.
And they don't, they don't even know it.
They don't even know it.
They, they still have this adherence to this mainstream media, whether that's like the Midas Touch podcast or their Facebook feed.
It's or whatever their girlfriend's telling them.
owen shroyer
And think about this.
This is how bad it's gotten.
This is how bad it's gotten in this administration.
Now you give the Midas Touch, the Krassenstein bros, right?
All of these cringe podcasts and all these left lunatics and everything else, these loony tunes, all of a sudden they look sane.
All of a sudden, they look more sane and more centered than MAGA.
MAGA looks like the crazy freaks now.
MAGA looks like the wild-eyed, wild-haired, psychotic cult now.
Now the Krassensteins might have, they look like centrist normal people now compared to the MAGA cult.
joel in ann arbor
Yeah, I was able to throw something from Harry Sissinon just a few months ago and like just it would get a few laughs like just can you believe this dude?
But I mean, like obviously you, you know, if you turn, but now I can't do that.
Now it's just like, all right, well, there's too much, there's too much lunacy on the MAGA side.
But I think, you know, one test that I found is if you turn off the sound and you watch someone talk, you can see how fake they are.
You can see how inauthentic and almost scripted what they're saying is.
And I find that, I find that pretty consistent.
Just turn the sound off and watch them talk.
owen shroyer
Great exercise.
Been doing it for years.
Great exercise.
You're absolutely right about that.
Western kind 007.
Hey, thank you for the call.
Great call.
Western kind 007.
We must protect white children from white erasure.
Well, there is a white Holocaust.
There is a white genocide happening right now.
It is literally happening right now.
So act accordingly, if you will.
And just one more thing on that last caller before I take the next one.
I, you know, again, it's like people kind of make jokes and it's fine.
I deserve it.
I kind of lean into it now.
It's like Owen, the man about the town, you know.
But it's true.
I go out.
I got, you know, I got places I go here.
I like to go out.
I've got different social circles.
I talk to people.
I get recognized.
I talk to people.
They're nice.
People on the left, people on the right, whatever.
And folks, everybody, like even the most ardent Trump supporters, even the people that have been talking about Trump with me since 2015, 2016, folks, they're all sick of him.
They're all nauseated over what this administration has become.
It's pathetic.
And I feel like this, it's like this would be the moment.
This would be the come to Jesus moment over Christmas.
This would be the come to Jesus moment to say, okay, what are we doing wrong?
How can we fix this?
How can we salvage the midterms?
And instead, they're just making it worse.
And they're blaming you for their lack of results.
But like, even these polls that they show at the TPUSA thing, it's like, you know, okay, that might reflect a TPUSA event.
That does not reflect the general pop.
And that does not reflect the average or the general right wing in America.
There's just no way.
And that's why, to me, if you do want to look at polls, Mark Mitchell with Rasmus and Reports is by far the best poll.
But I still think street-level human intel is about as good as you're going to get.
What are your friends saying?
What are your family saying?
That's really about as good as you're going to get, especially in an off year like this, where it's just kind of chatter.
It's like we're not really looking at an election.
We're just kind of talking.
To me, the best you can do is street-level human intelligence.
And from where I am at, again, even the right-wingers, Trump supporters, all of them, everybody, it's like they might not dislike Trump, but they're not into it anymore.
They're definitely not.
They're not a fan of it.
And there's nothing motivating them to go vote in the midterms.
I can tell you that.
Phoenix 6.
What's this guy going off about?
Trump turned out to be almost everything the TDS folk claimed about him.
You know, I don't know if we're quite there because that's a loaded statement.
But directionally, it's starting to get there.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
don in morgan county
Oh, and Don from Morgan County.
owen shroyer
What's up, Don?
don in morgan county
Hey, what's up?
Just over here in California waiting for that atmospheric river, man.
It's just rain.
But I just want to say this: okay, let's backtrack a little bit to January.
And I know we've talked about, I've brought this to your attention, and we spoke about it on the last show you were on, and we spoke about it on this show.
When he first took office, my patience for the hurry-up and wait bullshit was zero.
I was like, okay, we got everybody, Congress, we got Senate, and we got everyone we need.
Okay, now let's just get to busy, get busy, start arresting people.
And then you, you were just like me, and that's why I remember this.
You were just like me.
You were thinking the same thing when he came out with that speech, his first speech.
And you were just like, well, dude, you know, we're waiting.
You know, come on.
We don't want to hear none of this shit.
i didn't want to be gaslit my my uh my i have i was not no longer able to be gaslit by anything at that point And you, I saw it in your eyes, man.
I saw it in your eyes.
You were thinking the same damn thing, dude.
You were just like, we don't want to hear any more of this bullshit.
We got everybody in office, everyone in place.
Let's start seeing some arrests, man.
I mean, and you said it earlier.
People are tired of all the endless expose, man.
All the freaking, he, this person did this, and look who did that.
And Trump respecting Bill Clinton.
Come on, dude.
You know, I mean, we're like I said, I can't even back him up anymore when a leftist comes at me.
I just walk the other way, dude.
I just want to, I just want to go about my business and wait for shit to hit the fan even more because that's when we're all going to be vindicated.
But on top of that, dude, I just got out of the gym.
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas, man.
It's been a hell of a year, and I hope to speak with you before the end of the year.
But I'm going to be super busy.
But I mean, let me know how you feel about that.
Because I saw it in your eyes, dude.
You were listening to that speech like me.
unidentified
I saw it.
owen shroyer
Well, to me, it was like the first indicator of, hey, we're just here talking a big game.
That was like the first indicator.
And I remember what you're talking about.
Because, you know, the inauguration happened and we had the big grand ceremony and we were in good spirits and the executive orders.
And it was like, okay, we're pedaled to the middle.
It's like, oh, okay, all right, pedal to the middle.
Let's go.
We got a job to do.
And then that speech was like the not so fast.
That speech was like the, hey, hold up.
And we're sitting here saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
I thought we already learned our lesson.
We don't have infinite time here.
Time is running out immediately.
As soon as the clock starts, we're running out of time.
And I thought that was the attitude.
So that was the first indicator of like, hey, well, not so fast.
And we're saying, what?
Now, everything that's happened since then, you know, is a different story.
He's going to promote Lindsey Graham and he's going to dunk on Rand Paul.
He's going to attack Thomas Massey and he's going to attack Marjorie Taylor Greene and he's going to ride with Randy Fine, a disgusting pig who flies a foreign flag in his office, a traitor.
So it's just like, you can't even, it's like, how do you even reason with that?
And I mean, I'm just on the hey, we're all looking for some light.
We're all looking for some hope.
And it's like, if I'm sitting at a roulette table or I'm, you know, trying to pick winners in a horse race or something, I'm to the point now where it's like the odds of QAnon being real are now greater than the odds that this Trump administration is going to do anything that we voted for.
That makes it like now I'm looking at this administration.
I'm like, we're not going to get any deep state arrests, are we?
We're not going to get 5 million deportations, are we?
We're not going to get tax cuts, are we?
We're not going to shut down the FBI and the CIA and the IRS.
We're not going to audit the Fed.
We're not going to audit Fort Knox.
We're not going to stop the foreign aid.
We're not going to stop the foreign ward.
Like we're really, that's none of that's going to happen, huh?
So now it's like the odds that QAnon was real are higher than that we're going to get all of that.
And by the way, neither of those odds are very high right now.
So it's just like, what, is this really what we're getting?
Is this really what we're getting out of this administration?
Israel first.
And then the AI, quantum computing, nuclear energy trifecta of crowning the new kings of the new world order.
And it's Trump and his family and all of his friends.
Like, really, that's what this administration turned into?
A giant grift?
A gigantic grift?
The biggest of all time.
And I like Don Jr., by the way.
And I like Eric Trump, by the way.
I like them.
But how am I going to sit here and complain about Hunter Biden selling $5,000 or $50,000 finger paintings when the Trumps are about to make billions of dollars in these in these new sectors and they're all getting startup cash from the government?
And you say, well, you know, we're going to get a return on that investment.
It's a giant grift.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
goatmeat in connecticut
Hey, Owen, how are you doing, brother?
unidentified
It's actually me, Goatmeat.
I'm here from Connecticut.
All right.
Same one who asked you to play the clip of Marina at Balmer Bridge talking about Trump's a witch.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I've never seen that.
I'll try to find it.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah, she's sitting in the car.
All right.
goatmeat in connecticut
So you mind if I just do a very, very quick prayer.
unidentified
Jesus, bless this conversation.
All right.
goatmeat in connecticut
So I've been going on to this everything for a while.
unidentified
Very, very long time since high school.
I'm 33 now.
goatmeat in connecticut
And I try to like, I'm noticing like, yeah, a lot of like the politics and everything is starting to seem like noise.
unidentified
And I'm just combing through the noise, right, Owen?
I'm trying to get to the main point.
All right.
goatmeat in connecticut
We see that, all right, maybe we got lied.
Well, we got lied to, right?
We thought Trump was a good guy.
They're telling, you know, this or this Republican party now, they're touting, you know, faith, you know, God, they're saying, but they're never naming their God.
Everyone is here.
We're thinking, you know, this is like Republicans are talking about Jesus, you know, Bible first, awesome, you know, TPUSA, you know.
And, you know, what's the opposite?
The Democratic Party, they're kind of like acting like demons, you know, all of them are colored haired and all of their homosexual and whatnot.
Right?
But combing through it all, you see that both sides are actually evil.
unidentified
It's a one bird with two, is one bird with two wings.
One wing is blue, one wing is red.
goatmeat in connecticut
Right.
And through this Epstein stuff right now, where you're seeing, oh, maybe it's a document where Trump graped a little girl or a girl and, you know, got her head blown off.
unidentified
I'm combing through all of this noise, all of the political noise.
goatmeat in connecticut
And you notice that, hey, it goes back to there's evil and there's good.
Right.
If we were talking about these secret societies or these Talmudic people, these Talmudic people who are reading this Talmud book, if we're talking about these extremist Islamic people who are, you know, praising a God who is a PDF file, okay?
unidentified
Combing through all of the noise, you get to the basis of good and evil.
And evil is playing like they're good right now.
Am I wrong?
Am I right?
owen shroyer
Well, I think we were hoping that Trump would cut through that left-right false paradigm and turn the right into something real.
And then, you know, obviously that hasn't been the case.
And I remember it was Jesse Ventura, who I like, who's always been a great libertarian, great truth teller in the truth movement, let's say.
And he came out and was really critical of Trump in the beginning and said, no Republican ever will fix this country.
And I remember being critical of him at the time because I thought Trump would be the one.
And I guess I would have to say at this point, it looks like Jesse Leap, excuse me, that Jesse Ventura looks like he was right.
At this point, it looks like Jesse Ventura was right.
Maybe we need a president Ventura.
Maybe that's the way out of this.
Thanks for the call.
Next caller, what's the name where you're from?
jacob in new york
Oh, and it's Jacob in New York.
What's going on?
owen shroyer
What's up, Jacob?
jacob in new york
Let me tell you, the phone lines are jumping today.
Took me a while to get on.
I don't know what the fuck that last guy is talking about, but God bless him.
I wanted to highlight something you said that was a great point.
When Trump said, oh, everybody knows Jeffrey Epstein, everybody knew him.
No.
Your boys club knew Jeffrey Epstein.
You know, I think the saddest part about this is like we were sold a lie that Trump was like a pseudo-libertarian.
But in all reality, Trump was just a New York establishment guy who met Ghislaine Maxwell before Jeffrey Epstein did.
And we were played.
owen shroyer
Well, that's certainly how it feels.
jacob in new york
Did you know that he met Ghislaine before Jeffrey did?
owen shroyer
You know, the timeline stuff, I don't really get too invested in.
I don't know.
I see different theories and timelines.
I don't really invest too much into that.
jacob in new york
Do you know the work of Whitney Webb?
Would you have her on her show?
owen shroyer
Yes.
Yes, I know of Whitney Webb's work.
jacob in new york
Yes.
Is that someone you'd be open to having on?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
jacob in new york
That would be awesome.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
I'll see.
I don't know if I have any way of contacting her, but I can definitely see.
jacob in new york
I know you're a sports guy, too.
Do you think Ohio State should have to respond to all this?
You know, Lex Wexner is all over their stadium.
owen shroyer
What are you talking about?
I'm just not familiar.
What do you mean?
jacob in new york
Oh, the Ohio State Stadium is named after Les Wexner.
He's the biggest donor to their program.
owen shroyer
Really?
jacob in new york
All over the program.
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
owen shroyer
Really?
jacob in new york
The richest man in Ohio.
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
Well, doesn't he, like, live in some compound in the middle of nowhere?
jacob in new york
Yeah, yeah.
And then in, I mean, he's named as, you know, one of the richest men in Ohio.
And they name him explicitly in the files, and it's obvious.
owen shroyer
But I did not, is he a big donor to Buckeye football?
Is he one of the.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
jacob in new york
It gets deep with Urban Meyer, fingers and butts, you know?
owen shroyer
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, boy.
You know what?
I don't know.
I don't know about that one.
Ohio State, pretty sure they're competing for a national championship right now.
So I don't know.
That's news to me.
I would think Ohio State would want to get that association as far away from the program as possible.
But, you know, if he's the biggest booster around, then I guess that answers that, huh?
I guess that probably answers that.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
jesse in minnesota
This is Jesse from Minnesota.
You could refer to me as the governor.
owen shroyer
The body.
jesse in minnesota
So I want to say something about Donald Trump, or should I say Donald Dump?
owen shroyer
That's good.
jesse in minnesota
He's been doing this thing.
He's been running around for years.
And I think instead of branding coins and Kennedy's center honors, he should be doing toilet paper because I'm out here in the ba ha.
And I don't think he needs to be doing what he's doing.
unidentified
What say you, Owen?
owen shroyer
Well, what is going to happen?
Is he going to get impeached?
jesse in minnesota
Oh, well, automatically, because the people are going to come for him because he's been doing nothing but dirty work for the bought and paid for play people who have been doing on the Epstein list, and he has not been coming through.
He needs to come down to the bar and swim underwater for about 20 minutes like I do.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll say this.
I think Trump thought, or maybe still thinks, that he can run with this excuse, like, hey, it's like, well, gee, why is Trump censoring the media?
Or why is Trump enriching his friends or all the other stuff that Trump is doing?
And I think at some level, Trump is in his own head and he's saying, hey, everybody else did this, so I can do it.
You're not supposed to be like everybody else.
Your voter base and your supporters are not brainwashed sheeple.
Now, the ones that remain are.
We pay attention.
We hold people accountable.
We follow up.
We demand results.
So if you think that you can just say, hey, everybody else did this, why can't I get away with it?
Because your voter base is different than everyone else's voter base, and we had different expectations for you.
And so, yeah, this is going to be a rude awakening.
This is going to be a rude awakening.
But hey, you know, he's got Sean Hannity.
Robert Bickerstaff in the super chats.
Don't worry.
Sean Hannity says indictments are coming.
Two more weeks.
Trust the plan.
Yeah, remember that whole charade with Hannity?
Indictments are coming.
Indictments are coming.
What a phony he is.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
willie in san diego
Hey, Owen.
Merry Christmas.
It's Willie San Diego.
How are you doing?
owen shroyer
Merry Christmas, Willie.
Good.
Thank you.
unidentified
Yeah.
willie in san diego
Hey, Trump's bubble wrap, otherwise known as True Social, is designed to keep him totally from criticism, constructive or otherwise.
It's a cheerleading echo chamber.
And Trump was even reinstated, of course, on X, but obviously is in control of that account.
And it feels like his gatekeepers are protecting him from valid criticism that he really needs to hear.
And personnel is policy.
Trump said it himself.
Susie Wiles is the most powerful person in the world.
She could start a war with a phone call.
Also, recently, Trump doesn't know it yet, but he's going to be campaigning like it's 2024.
But if he's out stumping for Republican candidates, he won't be focusing on his own political agenda.
He may even potentially cost Republicans seats if his poll numbers continue to drop and he's chasing away critical thinkers like MTG and Massey.
He just seems so disconnected.
willie in california
And Susie's got him bubble-wrapped.
owen shroyer
What a mess.
What a mess.
I forgot that, that they're going to put him on the campaign trail.
What a disaster.
willie in san diego
What a time.
What a time for that.
You know, she creates the bubble to America only.
You know, nobody can penetrate that bubble.
And it's sad for American taxpaying citizens, but we got to continue to try and demand accountability.
And I'm loving the callers that are coming in, and we're criticizing him.
Our politicians are supposed to work for us.
willie in california
We should be able to criticize them.
And I'm so sick of the MAGA BS out there.
It needs to be America only or America first, if nothing else.
owen shroyer
That's where we're at.
That is where we are at.
And that's where the Republican Party goes from here.
But I think we're a couple election cycles away from seeing that manifest into victory.
I think the Democrats at least won maybe two election cycles for them.
That's how much damage this administration is doing.
And then you might be able to come out on the other side.
The only question, which I think is a legitimate question, what are we even going to have left of a country?
At this point, I don't even think that you can discount maybe that we cancel elections.
That's how insane this administration has become.
So I don't even know what to expect.
But if we do have them, it's going to be, it's going to be the Democrats, probably two election cycles, I'd say.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hi, can you hear me?
owen shroyer
Yes, you're on the air.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, Owen, Matt from New York.
How are you doing?
Matt we're good yeah I just wanna know you you're talking about election cycles and And my only question is, and I'm not trying to sound like a revolutionary, but how do we vote our way out of this?
You know what I mean?
They're showing the cards.
We know the dig is up.
We could see how corrupt our government is.
It's only getting worse every day.
Can't see them giving this up that easily is my point.
That's all I have.
Thanks, Owen.
owen shroyer
Well, you know, I would also say I'd like to think that we could still vote our way.
I don't know if it's fair to say vote our way out of this.
You know, I don't think you can vote your way out of this, but I think I'd like to believe that we can vote in leadership that will at least start to stop it and tear it down.
But then you wonder, could anybody that actually wants to stop it and tear it down, could any of them actually get elected?
Or would they just not make it to the final day if you catch my drift?
You know?
I think that's another thing to consider on that front.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
sean in rhode island
What's up, Owen?
Sean from Rhode Island, the mailman.
owen shroyer
All right, Sean, what's up?
sean in rhode island
I called you a couple times on the guy who said the Matt Christopher Books while you were locked down.
owen shroyer
What's on your mind today?
sean in rhode island
Just calling to wish you a Merry Christmas, you and your family.
And I took my Trump sticker off my truck today, my truck magnet.
unidentified
Oh.
sean in rhode island
Are you in the market for some red hats?
I got a whole box of them.
owen shroyer
I actually had friends that said they want to burn their MAGA hat and have me share it on my social media account.
And I said, yeah, you know what?
I get it.
I'm not going to do that content.
That's a little cringe.
But you're not alone.
sean in rhode island
Yeah, I'm not there yet.
I'm still hoping for year two, year three, year four, but it's not looking good, bro.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you what.
Hold on to the hat because at least it'll be a nice little historical artifact someday.
sean in rhode island
Yeah, man.
I'm replacing the Trump magnet with the America first tomorrow.
owen shroyer
Yeah, we need to get some.
We need to get some America only.
Maybe I should debut some America only.
sean in rhode island
Ooh, that's nice, man.
America only.
Trademark that.
Send it to fucking China.
I'm sorry.
Send it to China.
Make some magnets.
America only.
That's the new one, man.
You make that.
I'm a customer.
I'll buy 10 right now.
owen shroyer
We may have to wait.
We may have to wait till next year when we revamp the store.
But I think America only merchandise is inevitable.
I think we'll have that.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
owl killer in virginia
Owl Killer, Virginia.
owen shroyer
What's up, Owl Killer?
owl killer in virginia
Hey, so for probably 10 years, you know, Gerald Scousin has said Trump just doesn't get the conspiracy aspect.
And, you know, outside of the Mormon space wives, he's dead right with that.
He had Bill Gates to his apartment in New York City, and then he has a dinner with him the other day.
Or not the other day, but a few months ago.
He just doesn't, like, it just seemed like he doesn't get the issues.
Now, I like he just doesn't get the conspiracy surrounding it.
I remember on the campaign trail in 2015, he said that Russia did not invade Crimea, and he was right because they've had a base there since 1795.
They've always been there.
And now he changes.
Oh, Obama let them invade.
So there are certain things that Trump just seems to not grasp.
And there's going to be no reaching him with that.
I think, like I was saying last time I called, I think his motive, I think his instincts are good.
Like he only wants good things for the country.
But like as you were saying, the boomer generation, it's over.
It's pretty much over for them.
And the system that's created is over for them.
Mark Mitchell, again, was on Alex today.
He said six out of 10 people under 40 want to take, want to confiscate wealth from people, including anything more than two houses.
Do you get what's happening?
Do you understand what's going to happen?
And the Democrats, it's almost like the space race where the Soviets had better satellites than us.
So we said, oh, we got to leapfrog them and supposedly go to the moon, right?
The Democrats are already there.
They're going to get in, and you're going to get universal health care one way or the other.
Now, I believe we're going to end up with universal health care.
And the Republicans have it, have a, they could if they want to just be honest about the situation and they want to streamline stuff and cut out fat.
And, you know, they wanted to provide us with something because the cost of health care is just, it's the average person can't afford it.
owen shroyer
It didn't even hit.
Wait till next year hits.
Wait till next year hits and it's going to be real nasty.
owl killer in virginia
Right.
So like certain things like that, you're going to get one way or the other.
And the Democrats did it to us in the sense that Obamacare was meant to fail.
They created a system that they knew was going to fail in order because their goal is to have university, like they want to have a control over you, right?
So just for example, universal health care was the tripwire that was set up for us to fall into, but they wanted to say you have the wrong opinion.
They turn your health care off.
Like that's why they want it.
They don't want it to help you.
They want it to be able to control you and basically tell you what you're going to take in your body, make sure you have the right opinions, things like that.
And Republicans just don't get that.
And like I have certain solutions like when it comes to like what you can do for middle class people, but what people don't understand it, what the Republicans just seem to not get is the people on the right, the young people on the right and all of the left, they are coming.
And they're not braced for what is going to happen.
And they're not going to be – during the Bolshevik Revolution and the French Revolution, the rich didn't fit it out.
They came for them.
And I don't think they understand.
Like, the Democrats are serious when they say they're going to confiscate wealth and they're going to confiscate property.
And they're ahead of the curve.
Like, and it's going to be that hammer and sickle type of thing.
owen shroyer
The only thing I would say is I just don't know if they're as unaware as you're saying.
I actually think they're probably hyper-aware.
And I think that this will somehow play into the AI rollout and that they'll be monitoring and censoring in real time to try to stop that from happening.
Because I understand what you're saying, but I think they're more aware than you might anticipate.
And I think they're going to have a preparedness factor.
And that's why they're building this AI infrastructure right now.
I think that's all going to tie into it.
So again, it's like anti-Semitism is the excuse.
Anti-Semitism is the entryway.
But then it'll just be used to silence, censor, imprison anybody that they view as a threat to their own power.
That's how I see it going.
That's what it looks like to me.
And it seems like Trump is becoming ever more resentful by the day, which is like where that begins.
It's like that's the energy that starts that process, quite frankly.
All right.
I want to play this quick video.
A little comic relief here.
Nothing beats an Epstein holiday.
Okay, so let's go ahead and see what we're cooking up here from Higgsfield AI.
unidentified
I tell you guys, it's going to be awesome.
Nothing beats an island holiday.
Jeffrey, welcome.
No age discrimination.
Look around.
owen shroyer
This is our core audience, though.
unidentified
Limitless joy.
This is the best day of my life.
Do you like, you know, sleep?
Excuse me.
Could you rub my back, please?
Boundaries-free experience.
I want to play with that boy.
For this is healthy.
Of course.
Private procedures.
owen shroyer
Whoa, I think I feel something.
unidentified
Hello, guys.
Book your dates now and get a free photo shoot.
Shall we go to my place now?
owen shroyer
It's the fastest three hours on the internet.
unidentified
It's the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
That was disturbing.
owen shroyer
That was weird.
AI is getting pretty crazy, isn't it, guys?
It's getting a little too real, huh?
Wow.
Well, as the caller said, the phone lines are lining up.
So let's continue with the calls.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Yeah, Ohio.
owen shroyer
Your name is Ohio?
unidentified
No, I'm from Ohio.
Real name is Ralph.
owen shroyer
All right, Ralph, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
We're not.
We need to shift our focus.
A lot of your calls are RD, Republican, Democrat, left, right.
ralph in ohio
It doesn't matter who you vote for, like somebody else is saying, it doesn't matter who you vote for, you always get John McCain.
unidentified
Here's the deal: we've got the cabal, which is in charge of the politicians.
ralph in ohio
These are the people you just showed on your little skit there.
I don't know if you remember there was a movie made about a guy who had a vision from God to take out the demons and he used an axe to do it and tire iron, whatever he needed.
When he laid his hands on the demons, they were unmasked and they looked like those demons that you just showed on your little skit.
owen shroyer
Like a formaldehyde faith.
ralph in ohio
Yeah, that is the actual ruling class.
That's the ruling class of humanity.
Our country is no longer a sovereign country.
We're part of a syndicate of countries.
And all you need to do to look at this is the fact that Trump had to take out Epstein, and he did that while Epstein was in prison.
And he told Netanyahu said, you owe me one now.
unidentified
You owe me one.
ralph in ohio
Along comes Charlie Kirk.
He was going to upset the apple cart.
He was the closest thing to us common man.
He was the closest thing since Jesus, a lamb of God.
He's seen the truth.
He is starting to speak the truth.
Netanyahu said it's time to call in my marker.
And then an international plot was hatched to assassinate Charlie Kirk with a full approval at the highest level of our government.
Do you remember Trump's reply on the morning, just a day or so after Charlie Kirk was assassinated?
owen shroyer
Did you see my assassin?
unidentified
How do you know about that?
owen shroyer
My ballroom is beautiful.
Don't you love my ballroom?
unidentified
Right.
ralph in ohio
Immediately, immediately he started saying, Hey, you know, that's too bad about Charlie Kirk.
By the way, do you see the bulldozers over here?
I'm just starting construction on the new ballroom.
He could care less about you or me.
Here's another reason, reason that shows that.
Those people out in California, those people in Hawaii, were burned out of their neighborhoods.
Burned out of that should be at the highest level of our government to find out what happened and to put the bastards in prison who did that and took those people's homes.
There was many people who were burned alive in their homes, murdered by these bloodthirsty vampires.
Oh, and that's another thing.
unidentified
Speaking of vampires, and they're all like this.
ralph in ohio
Have you ever seen Hillary?
unidentified
One day you see Hillary and she looks like an old hag, like an old witch.
And then another day you see her, she looks like she's 20 years younger.
ralph in ohio
Why is that?
And why is Hillary and all of this cabal so for Planned Parenthood abortions?
unidentified
They actually get the bodily fluids and tissues from these babies, and they use them for these elites.
ralph in ohio
There's a movie that's out.
The movie is made a long time ago, 1969, I believe.
unidentified
Jeff Bridges stars in it.
ralph in ohio
Your fans should be able to research this and bring it up.
But it's a satire on the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
And long story short, one of the antagonists in the movie actually owns a hospital.
Old guy, like, you know, you're just talking about Les Wexner.
unidentified
Looks like that, or looks like Soros, right?
Actually, he owns a hospital.
He goes to the hospital.
It says, well, what are you doing in the hospital?
What's going on?
ralph in ohio
Oh, I get all my blood replaced courtesy of all these kids.
owen shroyer
Well, there's a lot of symbolism in the movies.
There's no doubt about that.
A lot of hidden symbolism, hidden meaning.
They're kind of telling you all of this right in front of your face.
By the way, there was a video.
I can't find it now.
It actually got taken down off X. Kate Beckinsdale.
She was kind of a heartthrob, I guess, like early 2000s, maybe.
Kate Beckinsdale, you probably remember.
She was pretty popular, kind of a teen heartthrob, whatever.
And then she disappeared and she reemerged, and she looks like an entirely different person.
You bring up the Hillary Clinton thing.
I don't know what these actresses do, if it's surgery or something else, but it was like two completely different people.
So much so, people thought it was a different woman, a clone or something.
So I don't know that movie you're talking about, but I want to go to some clips here.
We'll take some more calls.
I got some stuff I want to get off the docket here.
We got another super chat from Cap Omerx.
Owen, you are great, but if you think a president can get us out of this mess, we are in, I have to disagree.
Merry Christmas.
Well, at the end of the day, I guess you got to take action into your own hands in your own life in your own way.
Not sure if that's what you mean.
But, you know, this is why it's so.
I don't even know if I want to get into this.
Maybe I should just start rattling some of this stuff off.
But after the Bondi Beach shooting, this whole thing about anti-Semitism and who's responsible and everything came out.
So you saw a bunch of commentary like this.
What did the Jews of Australia do to deserve this?
Are they occupying Gaza?
Are they the soldiers in the IDF?
They're 1,400 kilometers away from Israel.
They're Australians.
And so, yeah, this is the problem.
What Netanyahu and Israel is doing, they are the number one causes of anti-Semitism.
But Israel is untouchable.
And so these radical Muslims that hate Israel or hate Jews or blame them for everything, they just go out and find anywhere where they can do harm to Jews because they view that as being held responsible for what Israel is doing.
And, you know, the Mark Levins, the Ben Shapiros of the world, they don't help because they want to pretend like every Jew supports what Netanyahu is doing or supports what Israel is doing in the Gaza Strip.
And that's just not true either.
But this is all being done by design.
They want to push anti-Semitism to the next level.
They want you to be anti-Semitic.
That's why they post stuff like this.
It's like, we don't have to explain our right to exist, so they're just going to destroy everything in the path and say that it's self-defense.
And then the Bondi Beach shooting happens, and you get commentary like this from Eric Metaxas.
It is, is it fair to say that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson have blood from their hands on Bondi Beach?
Excuse me?
I'd love to see you direct that energy at Netanyahu.
I'd love to see you direct that energy at Israel, but no, you never would.
So not only are they using anti-Semitism to build the AI algorithms to censor speech and take away your first, second, and fourth amendment right, then they're going to blame everybody else and treat you like a criminal and say you're responsible for it if you don't speak positively of Israel.
That's where this is going.
And then you go to Congress.
And by the way, these videos are everywhere.
And I don't know if it's all of Stew Peters people, but I know Stew Peters is sending people out to the Capitol.
But I don't know if these are all his people or if this is his video.
But there are these people in the Capitol every day, and they ask just anybody walking around the Capitol if they'll say America first.
And this is the response they get.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Sir, did your father get you this job?
No.
So you earned it through hard work?
I did.
owen shroyer
Can we get America first or Israel first?
unidentified
No answer.
Now he got scared.
The first ones, he got to, sir, America first or Israel first.
Yeah, I'm not going to talk to you about it.
donald j trump
You're not going to talk to me about that, sir.
unidentified
You look terrified.
donald j trump
He just got a chill down.
owen shroyer
He skipped on the elevators.
unidentified
He said, I'm going to take the steps today.
Case study number 1467.
owen shroyer
Folks, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of these videos.
These guys just go around Congress.
They ask congressional staffers, congressmen, whatever, Israel first or America first.
None of them will say America first.
None of them.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
They won't even say America first?
They won't even fake it?
That's the ultimate expose.
And then you have, who normally would be considered a strong conservative, has a good track record.
Newt Gingrich, even he's calling for censorship.
unidentified
We have no strategy for going after people who've been radicalized.
donald j trump
That's the key in Gaza.
That's the key in Syria.
john kennedy
That's the key in the United States.
unidentified
We have to have a totally new approach, and that requires rethinking parts of the First Amendment.
We also underestimate the power of social media and the degree to which...
owen shroyer
Traitor. Traitor.
Now, all the good fortune and all the good work you've done for the conservative movement and all the goodwill, Newt Gingrich, traitor, that you would come out against the First Amendment.
Traitor.
Disgusting.
Oh, no.
It's not just America.
It's happening in Europe.
It's happening in Australia.
rabbi ephraim mirvis
It was the kind of thing we knew was inevitable.
We were praying, hoping that it would never happen.
But no surprise because of the tone on the streets within our societies, with the hatred that is being expressed to the Jewish state, to Jews, and to Judaism.
owen shroyer
So see, the Jewish state.
So you can't say anything bad about Israel now.
You're not allowed to criticize Israel.
rabbi ephraim mirvis
And therefore, what's happening around us is inspiring some people to translate hate speech into hate action.
You know, my own story is not really so important.
One of our children called me to say, have you heard?
And then there were some agonizing hours, actually, to discover what really transpired.
Who was this an attack on?
Who was involved?
Who was indicating how many were dead?
How many were injured?
But deep down, we knew this was an attack on Jewish people for the sin of openly celebrating their Jewishness.
Time and time again, that's what we have experienced.
But you know what?
We saw.
owen shroyer
So he goes on to say we need to censor speech because of it.
Folks, I'm telling you, this is all being done by design.
And look, are these events false flags?
Are they real, organic, whatever?
It doesn't, I won't say it doesn't matter.
It does matter.
These things do matter.
These facts do matter.
But I'm saying the result is going to be the same.
They're doing this intentionally so that they can use AI to censor speech and criminalize speech.
This is all being done.
How can you not see it?
The writing is on the wall, it's everywhere.
And here's Henry Kissinger telling us years ago, you're going to comply whether you like it or not.
henry kissinger
For the first time in history, foreign policy has become global.
Communications are instantaneous, and there exist problems which are genuinely not national, like environment, nuclear proliferation, and similar issues.
So in this sense, we are living in a new world, and a new world order will emerge.
The only question is whether it will arise out of intellectual and moral insight and by design, or whether it will be forced on mankind by a series of catastrophes.
owen shroyer
Be forced on mankind through a series of catastrophes.
There it is.
Do you want to hear about, do you want to hear from Netanyahu saying that if it wasn't for Israel, there'd be no United States of America?
Do you want to hear that?
Have you heard that enough?
I've got the clip.
He said there would be no United States if it wasn't for Israel.
So as if you can't stand him enough, we'll go ahead and pass.
Same thing happens here.
This guy speaking says that Christians owe Jews everything.
You're basically, you need to be a slave to them.
That's what they say.
Here's Lindsey Graham.
Here, I'll play this one for you.
This one's a little short and sweet.
This is who Trump is riding with, guys.
lindsey graham
Israel's a good investment for America because we have common values and common enemies.
If we had to replicate the capability of the IDF in the region, we'd have to double our military budget.
Not one American soldier has died in the pursuit of what Israel has done, not only on behalf of the Jewish state, but I think the region and the United States.
So to all those who think that this is a, you know, we can't afford to help Israel, you're an idiot.
We can't afford not to help Israel because Israel does more for us than anybody in the region in terms of our national security.
owen shroyer
Are you disgusted yet?
Are you disgusted yet?
By the way, they're telling Australians the same thing.
There is no Australia if you guys don't support Zionists.
They're telling them the same thing.
I don't know why this thing won't share.
We're having some technical difficulties right now.
This is weird.
I'm assuming we're still on here, but for some reason, my screen share is broken.
Let me try something else here.
Let me see if I can share this.
jesse in minnesota
Huh.
owen shroyer
All right.
Well, we're having a screen share technical error right now.
So that's fine.
We'll take calls the rest of the way.
That's weird.
All right.
Screen share failure.
No problem.
We'll go back to phone lines.
Let's see here.
unidentified
Let's see.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
Phone lines are back open.
Here we go.
Caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
erica in california
Hey, my name is Erica.
I'm calling from California.
Merry Christmas.
owen shroyer
Hey, Merry Christmas.
Thank you for calling.
What's on your mind?
erica in california
I was just calling to ask you about the whole debacle between Candace Owens and her whole conspiracy theories for Charlie Kirk's assassination.
I just wanted your thoughts on that.
owen shroyer
Well, do you want to be more specific?
erica in california
Just, you know, just the whole thing with the Egyptian planes and how it got debunked.
And now she brought this new guy who claims to be, you know, I guess he's claiming that he was in a military base and he witnessed that secret meeting.
Just wanted to know your thoughts on that and if you think it's real or not.
owen shroyer
You know, I don't have much thoughts on that.
I thought the last development was that there were community notes favoring Candace Owens now.
Am I mistaking on that?
erica in california
I'm not sure.
I haven't seen that.
owen shroyer
I thought that was the latest development was now the community notes are actually supporting what Candace was saying.
No, I look, I follow it.
I don't have many thoughts.
I'm waiting to see anything that develops results that would help me reach conclusions.
Because to me, I'm still at the same point.
I'm looking at the actual event and I'm saying the official narrative is impossible.
So really anything beyond that, I look into and I follow because I just want to stay informed.
But if I don't bring it to the show, I just don't.
I just, it's not that I'm saying that her reporting is wrong or discredited.
I'm just not as invested in it as she is.
I'm sticking to the official narrative is not true.
And so I feel like everybody's trying to fill that void in the meantime.
But I'm just sticking to the events.
I'm sticking to the family.
erica in california
There's definitely some cover-up going on there with the FBI and, you know, how they didn't let investigations into possible foreign involvement.
That's definitely going on.
And, you know, we can all see that.
But everything else, like, I just, I just don't know.
I think she's just, you know, she just hates TPUSA.
And in my opinion, that's, again, my opinion.
And she's just trying to burn it all down.
And she has said that publicly where I am coming to war with you with every single one of you.
And I'm going to bring you down.
So my opinion is she's just trying to destroy everything that Charlie built.
And, you know, it's all coming out of malice.
And that's just my opinion.
owen shroyer
Well, I think that that's a fair critique on it.
And, you know, maybe there's a reason to be a little hesitant to commit to believing any of that.
I think that that's totally fair.
And there are a lot of emotions and a lot of connections and a lot of interpersonal relationships that kind of build that drama.
And I'm not involved in any of that.
So I kind of just, I kind of just try to avoid it as much as I can.
I will say this, generally speaking, I do find the attacks on Candace to be, how should I say this?
Not even unfair because whatever, you could say it's all fair.
I just, I find it odd.
It's like, when did we decide we were going to stop being conspiracy theorists?
It's like, okay, if Candace, call her a conspiracy theorist or independent investigator, whatever you want to do.
But it's like, since when did we start, since when did we start demonizing that?
Like, since when did that person become the enemy?
It's like, hey, look, if you don't want to believe it, that's fine.
Hey, look, if you want to say like she's crazy or whatever, like, okay, that's kind of the realm.
But like, the attacks on Candace are coming from a place of it's very strange.
I don't know.
The attacks on Candace to me have been more of a story than whatever Candace is doing or isn't doing.
You know, the attacks on her are what I've noticed.
And I've been like, that's just weird.
I don't, I don't understand the attacks on her.
erica in california
Yeah, I think everything just went like really sideways when she started attacking Erica Kirk.
And, you know, she's a grieving widow.
And, you know, with the whole thing, like as soon as she went after TPUSA and she called it a, you know, Godforsaken organization and stopped funding it and stopped donating money to it.
I think that's when it all kind of went sideways and people were like, okay, this is not just conspiracy theory and this is not just honest journalism, but this is like a direct attack.
owen shroyer
Well, I wasn't commenting on anything, Erica Kirk, for obvious reasons.
But, you know, now she's out there in the public every day.
So now I think it's fair game.
So now I'd say it's fair game.
If she wants to be in the front of TPUSA and she wants to be on the stage and she wants to be the public face, to me, now it's fair game.
You know, the grieving widow thing, we all, you know, obviously we all respect that.
But to me, that's over now.
To me, now that she's out in the public every day and she wants to throw herself into the mix, to me, to me, it's all fair game.
Now, I'll say this, and I'm not going to go all the way because I just don't know.
The truth is, I just don't know.
And as I say to my audience a lot here, I'm not going to give you something that I don't know.
I want to try to bat a thousand.
But I will say, there's a lot of weirdness there.
There's a lot of weirdness.
Now, weirdness doesn't necessarily mean anything other than just weirdness, but there's a lot of weirdness.
There's a lot of weirdness.
There's what appears to be a lot of misrepresentation of facts and history.
So I can't explain that.
It could be an innocent explanation.
The whole thing is just strange.
But to me, it's all the fallout of this.
We're being lied to about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
So that's where I stand.
We're being lied to about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
And all the drama that's falling onto the ground because of that is just that.
It's just the drama that falls on the ground.
But the tree is that we are being lied to about the Charlie Kirk assassination.
erica in california
Yeah, I definitely agree with that for sure.
owen shroyer
So appreciate the call.
Cyber LA Rudy.
Alex Jones said that Candace reporting on Fort Hawacha is not true without any evidence.
Alex seems very sus now.
Well, I have no comment and I don't work there anymore and he's not my boss.
The last communication I had with Alex, he sent me a text message the day that James Comey was indicted and he was rubbing it in my face and he said, Eat crow, black pillar.
Well, I guess we all know how that turned out.
And maybe my decision makes a little more sense now.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
melanie in ohio
Melanie from Ohio.
unidentified
All right, Melanie, go ahead.
melanie in ohio
Well, I am extremely upset.
owen shroyer
All right.
unidentified
Hey, Owen, I didn't know there was a delay.
melanie in ohio
Anyway, Trump was like the first president I've ever voted for because I really believe that he was going to follow through with all his promises.
owen shroyer
Are you waiting for me to respond?
I'm sorry.
You're on the air right now.
unidentified
Okay.
melanie in ohio
I guess because of the delay, it's kind of messing me up.
But then I then remember that he kept like having this poem that he would like recite about a snake.
And that's definitely, I think he was definitely just talking about himself.
owen shroyer
Well, yeah, I think you're not the only one thinking that.
melanie in ohio
Yeah.
And there's just a lot of weird things.
I mean, you got that weird book.
unidentified
You got the weird book about Baron and then the that Kim Clement stuff about him being the last president or something.
melanie in ohio
I mean, I feel like we're going to be screwed when this is all said and done.
unidentified
He's getting the whole AI surveillance thing in place.
melanie in ohio
I mean, we're not going to be able to even make a move when we decide that that's what we need to do.
owen shroyer
Yeah, the simulation is pretty crazy right now, huh?
It's pretty wild.
melanie in ohio
I'm just, I don't know.
I'm just really upset.
unidentified
I'm so, I'm, I'm worried for our future or, you know, for our children's future.
melanie in ohio
I just don't, I think that, I think the gig is up.
unidentified
I mean, I really do.
owen shroyer
Yeah, you're not the only one.
That's for sure.
And the numbers are growing larger by the day.
unidentified
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
My name's Malcolm from Tennessee.
owen shroyer
All right, Malcolm, go ahead.
unidentified
I've called you before when you're on the Alex Jones show.
We ain't going to talk about it much, but I always commend you for going after Nadler and what you did.
But Owen, this is what I want to say.
Love the show.
I hit the like button every time your show is on YouTube.
But with our politicianers up there in DC and the Stew Peters, where he's going around asking if they're America first, of course they're not America first because they're supporting that other little country over there in the Middle East.
I'm not going to say their name, but you know who I'm talking about.
And obviously they're afraid to say America first because that little country over there in the Middle East probably has blackmail on them.
So they are going to sell out their own fellow man.
That's all I have to say, Owen.
goatmeat in connecticut
And keep kicking ass.
owen shroyer
Thank you for the call, Malcolm.
Yeah.
They can't even, even if they don't believe it, they won't even lie.
Say, hey, will you say America first?
They won't even say it.
Man, that's wild.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Are you with us?
Are you in a tornado right now?
Are you in a wind tunnel?
marina in california
Oh, my God.
I wasn't sure what to expect.
melanie in ohio
Hold on.
marina in california
Hey, yeah, can you hear me?
unidentified
Yes.
owen shroyer
What's your name?
Where are you from?
marina in california
Marina, California.
owen shroyer
All right.
melanie in ohio
Go ahead.
marina in california
I think just listening to the last couple of weeks and all the callers, living in California, you don't really, you know, it's like nobody's really talking about anything.
Nobody acknowledges anything.
And I feel like we need to get to a point where I feel like everything is going to lead to digital ID.
And I feel like we need to get to a point where we're building communities of the individuals who are not interested in taking part in that.
And that's really all I wanted to say.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but then they might do you, they might do you like they did in Texas, some years ago, with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
You know, I thought about that.
You know, there are some compounds that are propping up.
There are some compounds that are popping up.
Most of them are actually Muslim, but there's like a whites-only community and stuff like that.
I don't know.
I do feel like ultimately, though, that's going to be a solution that people are reaching for.
They're just going to say, all right, we have to form a compound.
We have to farm.
We have to try as best we can to live off the land, live off grid.
It might not be possible to go all the way with it, but it's like we can isolate ourselves enough from the corrupt civilization and the corrupt government, at least for now.
I think a lot of people are going to reach that same conclusion.
And then you just hope that they don't ruby ridge you.
marina in california
Yeah, I think it's the only way that we can effectively fight back.
Now, when that fight happens, who the fuck knows?
But sorry.
But yeah, that's really all I wanted to say.
And I just want to wish everyone out there good luck.
And thank you for doing a great show.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Just remember, folks, you got the greatest taste of tyranny under President Trump in the year 2020.
Remember that.
The greatest, the number one experience with tyranny that we ever had in this country was under President Donald Trump in the year 2020.
And I have a feeling he's about to one-up himself in maybe 2028.
But I don't know.
We got the Olympics coming to town, so he might want that to go off without any issues.
You know, next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
dan in ohio
Dan from Ohio.
How you doing, Olin?
owen shroyer
I'm doing good, Dan.
Go ahead.
unidentified
All right.
dan in ohio
Hey, I just wanted to mention Good Show, but hey, in 2016, 2015, 2014, we had a real strong Tea Party movement, and it's been completely hijacked by this bogus Trump movement.
And now we have to all reorganize.
And we are starting to reorganize, but the movement's been hijacked.
And you cannot talk to these people, man.
They are so hell-bent that Trump is going to save this country.
I mean, you could, like you said, 2020, people should have woke up to not trust in any of these people any longer.
And they just continue to just believe that Trump is going to save them.
I don't get it.
owen shroyer
Well, that's why I've kind of boiled it down.
And, you know, it's not that it's this simple, but I think it's kind of the measuring stick.
Like, okay, all right.
You've got the MAGA cult over here, and they're thinking and saying one thing.
And then you've got the former MAGA base over here that's getting tired.
And now they're having second thoughts, or now they think Trump is the worst thing ever.
And I feel like, okay, like kind of remove the noise and remove the current status.
And it's just like, wait a second, hold on.
Let's try to get on the same page here.
Do you think 9-11, do you believe the official story of 9-11?
And if they say yes, then there it is.
There it is.
It's like, okay, well, then you're not even on the same planet as I am.
dan in ohio
Right.
Oh, I agree.
And this whole thing, and, you know, you try to talk to people, and I know I'm kind of repeating that, but I cannot get through to them.
And they just cannot see that we're going down a bad path.
And you're right.
It's time to let the system burn.
If Newsom wins in 28, let him win because the Republicans need to be taught a lesson that don't take us for granted.
You left us.
We never left you.
We're America first.
And just their whole idea with this, you know, this Israel first, this is unbelievable.
I mean, they're not even shy about it.
owen shroyer
No, they're rubbing it in your face, which is why it's so crazy.
And it's just like, okay, how did we get here?
dan in ohio
Right.
And, you know, JD Vance is not the answer.
He is not the answer.
I don't want JD Vance in there.
I think he's horrible.
I mean, I think it's time we take the party back with people like Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Rand Paul, people who are America first.
I mean, let's face it, when you watch Trump, all this stuff he shares and the bootlicking media that he has that will brag about Lindsey Graham and Elise Stefanik, these people that have horrific constitutional scores.
And, you know, Trump already ran out Bob Goode a couple years ago in Virginia.
Now he's trying to run out Massey.
He's endorsed Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania, one of the most liberal dirtbags out there who lost.
I'm promoting the far left.
And his base just thinks, well, it's better than nothing.
They just can't see through it.
And the last thing I want to say, if I can, Owen, is in 2017, 2016, Trump ran on a pro-life candidacy.
And now, actually, MAGA is stating that, well, you know, we can't be talking about pro-life because we got an election to win.
This is how much these people just, they hate us.
They don't even stand on the principles they ran on.
You know, Trump may have been a Maverick in 2017, but Trump is Lindsey Graham today.
owen shroyer
Well, they're underestimating, they're underestimating where the real movement is at.
They think the majority of people are brainwashed sheeple and they can get away with this stuff.
So they're kind of living in their own delusion.
And again, I don't really have many thoughts on Nikki Minaj, but I see it like this.
They bring up Nikki Minaj, and it's either one of two things, maybe both.
It's either Erica Kirk saying, I just kind of want to do like the new view type of host and I want to do interviews with celebrities.
Like I'm here to get, I'm here to grow my personal profile.
Okay.
And so, you know, there'll be a lot of commentary that follows that.
People are obviously already pointing out, I think she has three kids.
Where are the kids?
So, okay, maybe Erica's just made the decision.
She wants to be the boss mom now.
And she's always talked about that.
For years, she said that she's always wanted to be a CEO.
I guess maybe people thought it was facetious, but now here she is.
So it looks like she's going to embrace that role.
And maybe she wants to bring up celebrities.
But okay, they bring up Nikki Minaj, and she's a big supporter of Israel.
And so they kind of live in this delusion, like, oh, we're getting away with this.
Like, we're getting away with this.
Most MA people are sheeple, and we're really getting away with this.
Everything's going smoothly.
And they really just have no idea what's going on.
They really just have no idea what's going on in the real culture.
They have no idea what's going on with the human element and the human intelligence.
I mean, you've got NFL players that are regularly and openly talking about how Israel controls everything now.
Like, do you really think Nikki Minaj is going to put that to bed?
Aiden Ross, who's Jewish, he gets all this heat for having Puka Naku on the show and doing the hand rubbing.
Now other NFL stars want to go on his show.
Aiden Ross shows up at a basketball game, and there's a bunch of Jewish kids there, and they all run over to Aiden Ross and are swarming him for autographs and handshakes.
He has some Christmas giveaway.
They can't even let everybody in.
He's so popular.
So they've really just underestimated where the culture is at.
They live in these political bubbles and they think that whatever they think, whatever they see is just working on everybody, and it's not.
It's not even close.
So I don't know where the rubber meets the road because it goes beyond just elections, obviously.
It goes beyond elections.
But they really just are kind of high on their own supply right now.
They really think they're fooling everybody.
And they're just kind of blinding themselves to where the culture is really at, what people are really saying.
And really, they can't even make up their own minds either, in case you haven't noticed.
So, like, on one side of the mouth, on one side of their mouth, they're saying, oh, we have to stop Nick Fuentes and remove him from the conservative movement and all this stuff.
And then on the other side of the mouth, no, Nick Fuentes has no followers.
It's all fake.
It's all astroturf.
We don't need to worry about him.
Well, which one is it?
They don't even know.
They're so disconnected from the common man.
They're so disconnected from the culture that they just have no clue.
And that's why when I just got up on my show and made decisions that I made and said things that I said, it's because I'm in tune with the culture.
I'm in tune with the common man.
Maybe I am the common man.
Maybe I am the culture.
So when I start saying these things and doing these things, say, oh my gosh, you'll regret it.
You'll come running back.
Oh, you're wrong.
Oh, you're a panic and you're all of this stuff.
I'm standing here confidently on my own two feet saying, okay, I guess we'll find out.
Okay, guess that's what you think.
And now here we are.
The story writes itself.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
sam in montana
It's water snob Sam from Montana.
owen shroyer
What's up, Sam?
sam in montana
Well, just two quick conspiracy theories.
I saw something crazy the other day where they showed the length, how big hands are on Charlie Kirk.
And then they show, which is totally weird with that whole videotaping her like holding his hands and stuff.
owen shroyer
Oh, like in the casket.
Yeah, yeah.
sam in montana
Yeah, that was weird.
So her hands suddenly are just as big as him.
If you look at that video, those hands look like rubber hands.
I don't know.
I didn't see.
They never showed us the rest of his body or anything, but we sure saw his hands.
So the hands don't match.
Okay, that's one thing I just noticed that I saw in the video.
But the second one is, I've heard, and you probably remember when Epstein was killed, or not killed, but the body that they were taking out of the jail, it didn't look nothing like him.
And the theory is that the trapdoor thing with Charlie Cook is a real Kirk is real.
They got him out the trapdoor and they're pulling out the dummy body.
Like, that's why that dude was smiling back there behind the table.
He's all like, this is funny.
And apparently, Epstein is living a great life in Israel.
owen shroyer
Well, I don't believe any of that personally.
I don't believe any of that.
But I don't think, hold on now.
I don't think it's, you know, I don't blame you for believing that.
I don't believe that, but I also realize that things are so crazy that that's not even beyond the pale to believe.
So I'm not coming at a condescending, yo, yo, you believe that?
I don't believe that, but I totally understand.
Yeah, the hand thing is weird.
Who knows?
The Epstein body double, whatever, who knows?
You know, look, I'll say this.
I'll say this.
I'll go ahead and do this as a little Christmas gift for you.
How about that, Sam?
How about that?
I'm going to do a little Christmas gift for you, but I do have to honor my word.
But let's just say I had a conversation with somebody who was very close to the Epstein prison situation.
I have to honor my word because I told this person it would all be off record, but it's been obviously some time now.
But I'm going to honor my word to at least protect who this person is.
I got this from somebody very close to the situation.
And they basically, what they told me was there is no evidence of anything.
The long and short of it was when they went in there to try to do the initial review and figure out what happened, there was no evidence of anything.
Okay?
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
So, you know, this is off record.
So I'm being intentionally vague.
I apologize, but I have to because I'm trying to protect this person.
It's very close to the situation.
They said there was no evidence of anything.
And so, and so maybe that's why they're putting out AI videos.
Maybe that's why they're putting out edited videos.
Maybe that's why Patel and Bongino are staring into the camera like deer in the headlights when they're being interviewed.
But that's what I was told, that there was no evidence of anything.
unidentified
So I. That's crazy.
sam in montana
Yeah.
Didn't one of these, didn't one of the OJ Simpson doctors, Dr. I forget his name off the top of my head, but did he say he looked at the autopsy report and said that there's no way that this vertebrae could have been crushed or this, that, and the other?
owen shroyer
It was a choking victim.
Yeah, they said it was a choking victim.
sam in montana
Right.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
sam in montana
Anyway, anyway, hey, man, I'm really proud of you.
Your show's taking off really great.
I've been there since day one, and you're killing it every fucking time, bro.
I'm really proud of you.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Even on the Christmas special, where we're just kind of cruising, we're cruising to Christmas.
We're cruising to the new year.
It's light news day.
We're just taking calls.
We got the Santa hat on.
Even my low gear is better than most top gears.
All right.
Okay.
Now I'm just being arrogant.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
Calm down, Schroyer.
I do think, by the way, folks, we had an interview debate earlier today.
You can find that.
I talked to David Kate.
It was a bit of a passionate debate interview conversation.
There were some good, some bad.
Overall, productive.
I liked the way it turned out.
So did he.
You can find that.
It's about an hour and a half.
We did that earlier today.
I'm trying to collaborate with Myron Gaines tonight.
So we may do a collab with Myron Gaines tonight.
I'm in talks of going on his show tonight.
So I may do one more thing before I sign off for Christmas.
The Owen report will be off until January 2nd.
We're going to take a long Christmas break.
We'll be off until January 2nd.
I do have, though, if you are following on YouTube, we are going to continue to grow that YouTube channel.
Give us a follow, Owen Report on YouTube.
We will be posting videos on YouTube over the Christmas break.
So there will be a lot of content going to YouTube over the Christmas break.
Some classic stuff, some new stuff, some hard-hitting clips.
But we will continue to put content on YouTube over the Christmas break before the Owen report returns January 2nd.
I'll obviously stay active on X with some breaking news and stuff.
We may pop in and do a live stream between now and then.
I don't know.
I don't have anything planned.
Just kind of go with the flow.
But really do appreciate the support.
And so in a way, this is kind of a milestone here, guys.
We've just completed the first three months of the show.
And, you know, all things considered, I feel very blessed.
I feel extremely grateful.
And I love this audience.
I love what I do.
I'm passionate about it.
I want to do this for the rest of my life.
I want to live to be 100 years old broadcasting here every day.
That's what I want to do.
Want to go out.
I want to go out on my microphone, let's say, like Rush Limbaugh did, cut down too soon.
So we're going to try to stay a little healthy.
But, you know, this is kind of the three-month mile marker, and then we sign off until next year.
And we've done pretty good growing YouTube.
We've done pretty strong on Rumble.
The X account is growing.
The Owen report is getting more notoriety.
And I just feel very blessed.
I feel very grateful.
I'm in a very, how can I say this?
I'm in a very grateful position that I've been able to do what I want.
I'm in a very, very appreciative and blessed and grateful position that I'm able to do what I want.
And I don't take that for granted ever.
I will never take that for granted.
And so I want you to know that.
And I really appreciate you spending time here.
I really appreciate you listening to the show and sharing the show and enjoying the show, inviting me into your house, your car, your office, wherever it may be.
It really means a lot to me.
And I don't take a single day for granted.
I don't take a single broadcast for granted.
I'm extremely blessed.
I'm extremely lucky.
I'm extremely grateful.
And as we close out the first three months of the Owen Report, I just want to voice that to you because somebody was giving me a hard time.
It was Rosie, Josie, excuse me.
It was Josie last night, the redheaded libertarian.
She was asking about my show, and I kept saying we.
And she's like, well, you keep saying we.
I thought you run your show by yourself.
And I do run my show by myself.
I do have my producer, DMT, who helps me with editing and some other work production stuff, some business management stuff.
We do have a social media girl.
So I do have two employees, let's say.
But I run the whole show myself.
And so she said, well, why do you say we?
Because I really feel that way.
I really feel it's a we.
There's a reason why I take calls.
There's a reason why, even though with some regret, maybe sometimes I watch the chat.
I really do feel it's a we thing.
I'm fortunate.
I'm blessed.
I'm lucky that I get to be the face.
I get to be the voice.
It's my name on the card, everything else.
But it really is a we thing.
I look at it that way.
We are in this together.
We are true believers that we can form a better, more perfect union.
We can save America.
We can revitalize America.
We can build humanity and civilization into the future, prosperous like we can't even imagine right now.
The technology is there.
The will is there.
The vision is there.
So that's why I call it we.
So enough of the sappiness.
I just want to say I love you guys.
Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year.
And I can't say thank you enough.
I appreciate you supporting the show.
I appreciate you supporting the sponsors.
I appreciate you tuning in, sharing it, following us, the kind words when you call in.
It really means everything to me.
It's the best Christmas gift I could get was that we were able to do it, and we did it.
We did it.
So it means a lot.
And we're going to do it again.
We're going to do it again next year, guys.
The Owen Report will return next year.
There will be some minor changes to the studio and some technical stuff in the storefront.
But as far as the content, the direction, everything else is concerned, it's still going to be the same Owen report, the same me that you've gotten for years now, you know?
And that's how it's been.
All right, so we're going to go out here.
I told you, I've got the list of free use Christmas music here.
You never know what you're really going to get.
Here, let's go with this one.
It won't be a total letdown.
Let's see.
This is the warm Christmas emotion.
willie in san diego
Ooh.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I'm feeling it.
It's got a little jazzy vibe.
unidentified
Getting a cup of hot cocoa ready.
owen shroyer
Maybe putting some marshmallows in there.
Sitting down by the fire.
Your Christmas tree with all the ornaments and the lights.
The families gathering around.
The presents ready to be opened.
The kids laughing, playing in the background.
You're obviously talking politics with your friends and family because what else would you be talking about?
Maybe there's a football game on.
You're watching the game.
You're enjoying yourself.
You're enjoying life.
unidentified
Because that's what it's all about, folks.
owen shroyer
Well, that was a lady on the phone that whole time.
Let's get focused again.
You're spending time with loved ones.
I don't know.
The weather here is nice, 70 and sunny.
unidentified
Maybe it's you got a blizzard.
owen shroyer
But we're enjoying life.
That's what it's all about.
We're enjoying life.
We're envisioning a better life, a better future.
We're trying to be the best people we can be.
We're trying to be the change we want to see in the world.
This is who we are.
This is America.
This is the human element.
So enjoy yourself this Christmas break.
Don't let the political world get you down.
Don't do it.
Don't let the political world get you down.
Don't let the rottenness, the sickness, all that, don't let it get you down.
Enjoy life.
Life is good.
God is good.
You are good.
People are good.
Find the goodness in life.
Enjoy your Christmas time.
It's very short.
It'll fly by.
So enjoy it.
Enjoy it with friends and family have fun.
Eat too much.
Don't drink too much.
Don't smoke too much.
But if you can, have too much fun.
I sign off the own report for the year.
Thank you, everybody.
God bless.
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