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OSL 109 - Trump Musk Feud Goes Ballastic And Creates MAGA Uproar

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unidentified		It's just one of those days where you don't want to wake up.
		Everything is everybody sucks.
		You don't really know why, but you want to justify.
		And someone's head off.
		No human contact.
		And if you interact, your life is on contract.
		Your best bet is to stay away, motherfucker.
		It's just one of those days.
		It's all about the heats and seats and bulls.
		I think you better quit.
		Make it slip.
		Or you can leave it with a bad lip.
		It's all about the heat seats and bulls.
		I think you better quit.
		Talking that it's just one of those days.
		Feeling like a break train.
		First one through the money.
		Leads with the bloodstain.
		Damn right of a maniac.
		You better watch it back.
		There's a finger up your program.
		And if you're stuck up, you just locked up.
		That's been mine to get fed up.
		Your best bet is to stay away, motherfucker.
		It's just one of those days.
		It's all about the heats and sees bulls.
		I think you better quit.
		I think you better quit.
		Talking that I feel like she might.
		My suggestion is to keep you a distance.
		Cause right now I'm dangerous.
		We've all felt like and been treated like all those mothers.
		I hope you know I pack a chainsaw.
		Get your ass wrong.
		And if my day keeps going this way, I just might break something tonight.
		Pack a chainsaw.
		Fucking your ass raw.
		And if my day keeps going this way, I just might break something tonight.
		I pack a chainsaw.
		Don't fucking get your ass raw.
		And if my day keeps going this way, I just might break your breaking face tonight.
		Give me something free.
		Give me something free.
		Just give me something free.
		I got your face.
		I'm going to be more about a chainsaw.
		I'll chain someone.
		I'm going to f a chainsaw.
		It's all about the heats and seats and bulls.
		I think you better quit.
		Or you can leave it with a bad lip.
		It's all about the heats and seats and bulls.
		I think you better quit.
		Talking that's still come and get it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we are, ladies and gentlemen.
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		All right.
		Well, the story is obvious with the Donald Trump-Elon Musk feud today.
		And there's all kinds of different opinions.
		There's all kinds of different opinions.
		And I spent about two hours on the InfoWars War Room today breaking down my opinions and what I think is going on.
		But I wanted to come on here and do a little extra broadcast, a little extra transmission and see what you think.
		So this is all about the calls tonight as I get the phone lines ready to go.
		And I'm sure we'll get all kinds of different theories tonight.
		From the whole thing is fake to Musk is going scorched earth to I'm done with Musk.
		I'm done with Trump.
		I'm sure we'll get it all.
		Really, though, it's been quite fun, I must say.
		It's been quite fun.
		It's been quite entertaining.
		And as Rush used to say, we're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
		And boy, is that the truth today?
		So now, unfortunately for people, they tend to take politics a little too personally with this stuff and the intense debate and conflict gets a little too heavy for some people.
		Not here.
		Not here.
		We're open-minded.
		We're open phone lines.
		And we're always a stable genius.
		And we're always enjoying life, most importantly.
		But the political implications of all of this are obviously very heavy.
		And so that's why it's a big story.
		And I think that most people would say, you know, and I feel this way, I like Donald Trump and I like Elon Musk.
		I support both of them.
		I understand where both of them are coming from.
		But I can be a fair and neutral and honest observer because I'm not fighting for access from anybody.
		I'm not fighting for credit or anything like that.
		I'm just here.
		I'm not loyal to anybody.
		I'm loyal to one thing and that's the truth.
		That's it.
		I'm loyal to one thing and that's the truth.
		And that's my audience that I'm blessed enough to have.
		I'm blessed enough to have a platform to have an audience.
		So I'm loyal to the truth.
		So I'm not loyal to Musk or Trump as a person.
		I'm not involved in a cult of personality.
		I'm not part of a paid digital influence campaign.
		I don't promote political propaganda.
		And unfortunately, even in the new media world, that is becoming rare yet again.
		So we kind of had this small period of time where X was truly organic or independent media, alternative media was truly organic.
		A lot of it now is bought and paid for or people fighting for access or people fighting to prove their loyalty to get access or they just think that that's what will keep them relevant.
		So that's where we're at.
		But I'm just here to take calls.
		I'm just here to take your calls.
		I already did my coverage today on the InfoWars War Room.
		I was proud of the work we did today.
		Big day.
		And so I'm just here to hear what you think.
		And it's funny, too.
		And I got some other things that we may pull up too for a laugh, like some memes.
		There were some good memes that came from this.
		And AOC offered a little commentary from the Capitol Steps today in typical fashion.
		So you got all that going on, but we're having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
		And I just want to get you in on it.
		I just want to have that fun with you here tonight.
	So I'm just taking calls.
	That's it.
	We'll be here for about an hour or so taking calls on this.
	We might look at some funny memes that came from this and some other developing news, should there be any.
	I will say this, though.
	It's funny when I do see this stuff.
	And this is more of a general observation, but I'm seeing it again tonight with this story, how people report things that just simply do not exist.
	And this comes with like this loyalty battle.
	It comes with, I see it all the time.
	I see it all the time.
	And really all you can do is ignore it.
	But it's this weird thing where, like, I see it all the time on X, where I'll post something, like I'll post X plus Y, and then somebody says, geez, well, how could you talk about Z like that?
	I'm like, nobody even mentioned Z. So you have some weird thing in your head where you just are obsessed with Z. I said X and Y. I didn't even mention Z. So people always read into things or pull things out that don't exist.
	Like, here's an example.
	And I get it's all in, it's all like interpretation.
	But Elon Musk, I have not seen, did not call Donald Trump a pedophile.
	I did not see that.
	And I see all these people saying, why would Elon Musk say Trump is a pedophile?
	He didn't.
	He just literally didn't.
	He said he was on the Epstein list, which is just true.
unidentified		But that's old news.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		The beauty of this, if you are one of the people that thinks it's nothing but a ruse, you now have Democrats, the official Democrat Party, multiple Democrats in Congress, and the Democrat Party propaganda agents all now calling for the Epstein release.
		And now everybody hates this bill.
		I mean, this bill seems dead on arrival.
		The Senate will try to work something, and then they'll send it back to the House, but now the House doesn't even have the votes either.
		So the whole thing, the whole thing is just busted, which I don't even.
		Look, if you're going to hold me high, our government is so corrupt, and this country has been so bent over and raped politically that you're going to sit here and hold me hostage over this bill.
		Pass this bill or you won't get tax cuts.
		Pass this bill or you won't get mass deportations.
		You know, pass this bill or you can't breathe air.
		It's just, I'm so sick of this crap, man.
		I'm not going to be held hostage over a bill.
		Fine.
		You know what?
		You want to crush the country?
		Go ahead.
		Fine.
		Just go ahead.
unidentified		Go ahead.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Crush the country because you can't get your 1,100-page pork bill passed, AI Skynet bill passed.
unidentified		Go ahead.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
		Hold us all hostage.
		Just rape us a little more.
		All in bad taste.
		So I'm not playing that game.
		I'm not playing this loyalty game.
		I'm not playing choose a side game.
		You can, though, because this is all about you tonight.
		I'm taking the call.
		So let's just pipe down, Schroyer.
		Let's just go ahead and pipe down.
		Phone lines are officially open.
		What are your thoughts on all of the drama today?
		747-25560, and we will get you up and on the air.
		I think I'm going to stick with this camera here.
		This one, the color looks off on this one.
		Although, do it look, I do look kind of tan.
		But I'm probably not really that tan.
		I'd like to think I am, but I'm probably, well, I don't think I'm that white either.
		I'm probably a happy medium.
		So here we go then.
		Here's how it goes.
		It's line to line.
		I pick up the phone.
		You're on the air.
		I just ask you your name and where you're from, but we are on the air.
		So first caller of the night.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Ethan, I'm from Jacksonville.
unidentified		I just wanted to shout out the Thomas Massey post on Instagram coming out about, or sorry, X about a month ago, or about end of May, kind of explaining what happened already.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I played that clip on the war room today.
unidentified		Oh, sorry.
		Yeah, I missed that part.
		Well, that's all I had, but yeah, it just kind of seems a little bit fake and stage.
		I think he's probably the only one that's been consistent, is Thomas Massey.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you know, that's one of those things that kind of looks bad for Trump from my perspective.
		Massey has been right.
		He's been proven right on multiple issues.
		He was proven right multiple times about Mike Johnson and continued resolutions.
		He was proven right about that twice.
		And then Trump attacks him, and Massey is really popular in his district.
		Trump says, oh, he's not even popular.
		He's massively popular.
		No pun intended.
		So I don't know.
		Trump does get that one wrong.
		But yeah, in March, in March.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		In March, Massey said there's about to be a collision here.
		There's about to be a collision at the intersection politically between Musk, Trump, and Johnson slash Congress.
		And now here we are.
		So, yeah, Massey, Massey had that one months ago.
		And now yet again, he's been proven right.
		Thank you for the call.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Zach Coakley from Knoxville, Tennessee.
		All right, Zach, go ahead.
		All right.
		So, I mean, I know there's a lot of Musk fans out there, and the MAGA movement needed him because we needed a lot of money.
		He's a smart genius, one of the best geniuses and businessmen of our time.
		But Trump created the MAGA movement.
		And right now, whether you can say I've heard that he was mad that he wasn't getting the EV subsidies, that he didn't get the Starlink contracts because it looked like a conflict of interest, whatever it is, he shouldn't be handling it the way he's handling it.
		Right now, Trump's having to deal with so much stuff.
		I think he's so much stuff's going on with Lindsey Graham, Pompeo going over to Ukraine.
		I honestly, maybe Trump knew about that, but I kind of don't think he did.
		I think they went over there to stir that up.
		And you know, Lindsey Graham's going to try to stuff some funding for Ukraine in to that big bill.
		Everybody's trying to stuff what they can into that bill.
		And Trump just needs the bill to pass to start the deportations.
		I don't look, I get it.
		I understand that the permanent political class is all out of control with the spending.
		But I'm at the point now where it's like, if it comes down to the bill passing, I want to start seeing people arrested for corruption.
		There's going to be no more excuses.
		I want to see the mass deportations, mass, mass deportations start.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How much faith do you have that that will actually happen?
unidentified		I mean, at this point, man, I think everybody in the MAGA movement is losing hope.
		I mean, you know, like you got Dan Bongino and Cash Patel when they were on all these podcasts and you thought, man, when they get in there and then seeing them get on there and just completely different people, yeah, man, I'm not convinced that, you know, that it's not just ran by, you know, a shadow government.
		But here's the thing.
		Is it too corrupt to save?
		You know, I don't know.
		I think we're at that point where we're going to find out.
		But I mean, I've been at the point where if Trump doesn't get in here and make a difference, I'll be just like I was before 2016 and Trump got in there.
		You know, it's all for show.
		They, you know, does our vote matter?
		I don't know.
		I think it's our last hope.
		So I think everybody needs to stick with Trump.
		And I do think that he's, you know, I don't know how many allies we have in the world, but I don't know how many allies Trump actually has within the government.
		He's fighting the Democrats.
		He's fighting the neocons and rhinos.
		It's a lot.
		So very bad timing for the must stuff to happen right now.
		And, you know, just another day in 2025.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, look, I do about, I probably say I do at least 90% positive coverage of Trump, maybe even 95.
		Anybody that does 100% anything, you have to be suspicious of.
		And now you're getting into cult territory.
		So we're not going to engage in that.
		You know, here's my problem with directly a couple of the things you said.
		I feel that it's a lie.
		I think that it's a lie when we're told that we have to pass this bill to get these things done.
		And if it's not just an outright lie, it's the same tactics that the Democrats and the Republicans too.
		It's the same tactics that the swamp uses to hold us hostage to get a bill passed.
		What do you mean I have to pass a bad bill or a good bill to have basic law enforcement when it comes to deportations?
		What do you mean I have to have 1,100 pages of a bill that Congress can't even read before they vote on to get tax cuts?
		So I think at the worst, it's just an outright lie.
		At best, it's just the swamp tactics in selling us a bill that is not good.
unidentified		I agree.
		I've been seeing it.
		You know, we always hear from the speaker, oh, we got to do this CR this time, and then changes will start happening.
		And yeah, you're right.
		And nothing seems like it does ever happen.
		So yeah, I agree 100%.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I also think the other problem, the other problem that the MAGA movement is having, just at large, you see, there's this big pressure cooker right now.
		There's a pressure cooker in American politics.
		And it's because the vast majority of Americans have now realized there is a criminal mafia that runs our politics.
		They run our politics.
		They run our politicians.
		They run Washington, D.C. And if you just look at the Trump phenomenon, you know, they've done everything to try to stop Trump from becoming president because he is his own man.
		Whether you agree with, you know, him as president or his policies, that's a separate issue.
		He's his own man.
		And so they tried to stop him in 2016.
		We saw everything they threw against him then.
		They did everything they can to sabotage his first administration, the impeachment hoaxes, everything else.
		They spied on him.
		Then they stole an election from him.
		Then they tried to imprison him.
		Then they tried to kill him.
		And so it's all part of this larger criminal mafia that runs our country, maybe runs our planet.
		And so everybody knows that now.
		And it's like this giant anvil that is just sitting up there, or it's like this pressure cooker that we keep getting more, more air into it.
		And it's almost like you feel like a valve was just released today in a way.
		But it's like this pressure cooker.
		It's like everybody knows this is the case.
		Everybody knows there's a group of criminal psychopaths that run our country.
		And this is what we really want addressed.
		And this is what we really want to solve.
		And this is how we really want to make America great again.
		And yet we've never seen more fervor from the Trump administration than to get this bill passed.
		And most of us don't even care.
		Maybe the bill's great.
		Maybe it's not.
		It's not even about that.
		It's about why are you sitting here giving us so much political capital, so much political propaganda, so much force of will about this bill, great or not.
		This isn't it for us.
		This isn't going to relieve the pressure from us.
		We're not going to listen to the excuses.
		There's a criminal enterprise that runs our country.
		We want them arrested.
		That's what we want.
		That's what we want the energy behind.
		That's what we want the fervor behind.
		And we don't want to hear, oh, we have to do this bill to get it done.
		No, that ain't selling.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And I agree with even the name, the big beautiful bill.
		It feels phony to me.
		And I get it.
		It feels phony.
		I guess it's that last hope.
		But here's the thing, man.
		This country will not be the same if we do not see arrests for corruption.
		And the thing is, like, we know that there's this criminal enterprise running our government, but if nothing's going to happen, you're telling me that Tish James is the only one that has like some loan, you know, fraud charges on her.
		That's it.
		I mean, come on, man.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I'm wondering.
unidentified		Corruption for days.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I'm wondering today, too, and I thank you for the call.
		Comer came out and announced in the, you know, in the fog of all the chaos today, subpoenas have been filed against the Biden doctor that lied about his health and then also to Corrine Jean Pierre.
		And Comer is calling on them to testify in front of Congress by the end of June.
		So originally, it was going to be behind closed door testimonies and who knows what was going to happen.
		And then in the haze of the craziness today, Comer came out and said, we're going to get Corrine Jean Pierre and I forget the doctor's name, Biden's doctor who lied about his health on the presidential letterhead that we're going to get both of them to testify today.
		So that was kind of a big story that happened in the craziness.
		And I'm wondering if maybe Trump didn't make a call.
		It could just be that's how the timing of it worked out.
		But I'm wondering if Trump didn't make a call and said, you know, hey, I got to get something here.
		You know, I got to get some political victory here.
		Can we call in the Autopen scandal?
		Can we call in the Biden cancer cover-up scandal?
		Can we get something in front of the American people?
		I got to give them something today.
		And then Comer comes out with that kind of in the kind of, you couldn't hear it in the noise of everything else.
		But it's like, obviously that needs to happen.
		And that's a good thing that that's going to happen.
		But it's just like, you're not going to be able to throw MAGA a bone or some red meat.
		That's not, again, we've already had the first four years.
		We want arrests.
		President Trump has accused this criminal enterprise, specifically the Democrat Party, of committing treason.
		We agree.
		So how is it that we have people committing treason multiple times and no arrests?
		And that's the pressure cooker.
		So every day, it doesn't even matter.
		I mean, the craziness that happened today, it could be irrelevant by next week.
		Every day that passes and you don't have deep state arrests or even an Epstein client list, whatever it is, the pressure cooker just keeps going like this.
		It just keeps going like this.
		And I don't know, maybe today was a bit of a release.
		Maybe today was a symptom of it.
		Maybe today jolted it up.
		But that's what we're in.
		We're in the pressure cooker where everybody knows a criminal enterprise runs our country.
		And yet it's like we just got Trump in, we got all his people in, and it's like we can't do anything about it.
		We just can't do it.
		The Biden administration brought in 20 million illegal immigrants.
		They just did it, but we can't deport them.
		So it's just the pressure cooker just keeps building.
		All right, next caller.
		What's your name, where you're from?
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		My name's Kevin.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Kevin, we have you.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I talked to you earlier in the week.
unidentified		So I think this was actually a setup squeeze.
		I mean, you had Lindsey Graham over there, Blumenthal.
		I think they're putting a squeeze on Johnson to some degree.
		I think they've been doing it anyway.
		And it was set up to fail.
		I think they automatically put things in there because they were all in the room when the bill was discussed.
		I think they put stuff in there that was passionate towards Trump and passionate towards Elon, and they played them against each other.
		I think absolutely Johnson is a neocon and needs to be removed.
		Uh, Kevin McCarty would have actually did better.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, there's no doubt Mike Johnson is a disaster.
		And this was kind of my big point on the InfoWars war room today: we warned Trump about Speaker Johnson from the very get-go.
		You know, we gave Mike Johnson a chance when he replaced Kevin McCarthy, and he pretty much figured that he wasn't worth his weight in political capital by the end of the first month of his term as speaker.
		And so here we are.
		We knew this guy was a loser.
		We knew this guy was a spineless invertebrate.
		And now Trump is riding with him over Musk.
		And I guess there's a pragmatic approach of saying, well, he's the Speaker of the House.
		I got to work with him.
		But I mean, this isn't politics as usual.
		And the MAGA Trump base does not like Speaker Johnson.
		And now, as you said, whether intentional or not, Speaker Johnson is the one that set this thing up for failure.
		Speaker Johnson is the one that has caused this absolute disaster of a bill to become such a turning point in the MAGA movement.
		So this is all on Speaker Johnson.
		He's a feckless coward.
		He's a horrible leader.
		And if he was a good leader, he could be in the process of solving this problem right now.
		And he could draw it all back down and he could say, okay, here's what we're going to do.
		We're going to dissect this bill.
		We're going to go line by line them, line by line, and we're going to prioritize things like tax cuts.
		We're going to prioritize things like mass deportations, whatever the big priorities are.
		We're going to get these things passed.
		We're going to have single-issue bills, and we can do it all in an hour.
		And then we can go into some of this other stuff that requires 1,100 pages to fill a bill with.
		So he could do that.
		He could have done that today.
		He could do that tomorrow, but he's not going to because he has no leadership abilities or he just has no will to make America great again.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and a big bill is nothing but an omnibus.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		And American people don't like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's clear.
		I think that that's been proven clear.
		Thank you for the call.
		Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified		Hey, Owen, how you doing?
		This is Albert from Pennsylvania Institute.
		How you doing, man?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, so check it out.
		Just role play with me for one second, Owen.
		Regarding Mike Johnson.
		All right, pretend you're at Fenway Park, right?
		He's on the way team.
		Let's say the Yankees, all right?
		We're sitting there at 11 o'clock in the morning, day game.
		Mike Johnson comes up.
		Unanimously goes like this.
		Just be in the moment.
		Just hear me out.
		Next up, the right fielder.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		Johnson.
unidentified		And then the audience is like, oh, fuck that guy.
		Who fucking cares?
		I got the fucking faggot.
		Who cares?
		How's that one?
		Would you agree?
		I don't get it.
		Well, I'm just saying, Mike Johnson fucking sucks.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so what's the Fenway Park analogy?
unidentified		Well, it's kind of a, it's just, you have to kind of be there.
		I don't know.
		I was just there recently.
		I just think the people there are talk funny, and it's just, it's hilarious, Owen.
		It really is.
		But nonetheless, yeah, I agree.
		I think Elon and Trump and all this other stuff going on, it's just, you can't have two dominated personalities fighting over the same.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe if we could boil it down to a simpleton explanation, yeah, you have two egomaniacal narcissists that there was never going to be enough room for the both of them, as they say.
		I agree with you.
		Fenway Park is awesome, but you need to work on your shtick a little bit.
		Just work on it a little bit for us.
		We deserve better.
		I appreciate the call.
		That was not the real Albert, in case you didn't know.
		That's the caller that impersonates Albert.
		Not his best impersonation.
		He's definitely done better work.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		The Hugh Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Hey, man.
		Thank you for taking my call.
		Thank you for the work that you're doing.
		It's a blessing that I even got in the air because I've been dialing this mofo like a mofo.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I only got one line here in my studio.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So it's, yeah, it's tougher to get on.
unidentified		Anyway, I just want to say you were talking about earlier what's going on between Trump and Elon.
		And I thought it had occurred to me that we're just feeding the beast.
		You know what I mean?
		This beast that truly is the enemy, which is AI.
		Now, I think AI is really what's causing this rift between all of us.
		But AI is much more than a bunch of lines of computer code that are manipulating the people to do what it wants.
		If you've seen the newest Mission of Bossimo movie, I would recommend it.
		It's great.
		But it speaks about AI and what it gets humanity, namely Ethan Hunt, to do.
		And I think this whole rift between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, our anger as American citizens, thing, what's going on?
		The money being stolen.
		I think we're being manipulated by this entity, which isn't really an entity itself.
		Well, all right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Where is the practical example of it in this situation?
unidentified		What's going on today?
unidentified		But where?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Where's the AI?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where's the AI factor?
unidentified		I couldn't tell you, brother.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't buy that.
		I think that, I think that overall, what you're talking about is a real thing.
		And you can kind of see on X specifically, there's all these different AI bots that will get in there and cause conflict and cause and cause rifts between people.
		So that is happening.
		I don't see that with this situation.
		This, to me, is organic, or if you think it's a ruse, whatever.
		I mean, this is between Speaker Johnson, Elon Musk, and Donald Trump.
		I mean, that's what this is.
		So I don't think anybody thinks, I don't know, maybe you think Elon Musk is AI.
		So I get what you're saying, that that is an issue.
		I just don't think that's the issue here.
		Now, there's the issue of the AI portion of the bill that a lot of Republicans, now that they've seen it, are going to stand against and won't vote for the bill that has that in there.
		So that is a relevant topic, but I don't think the issue of AI getting in here and causing this riff is the problem.
		I don't think that's the case at all.
		I have heard the new Mission Impossible is a really good movie.
		I'm actually a big fan of Tom Cruise movies, but for some reason, I've never gotten into the Mission Impossible movies.
		I don't know.
		They never did it for me.
		And I'm a big Tom Cruise fan.
		I like many of his movies.
		Many of his movies are some of my favorite movies of all time.
		But I have heard good things about that.
		So I'll have to check that one out.
		I've heard good things.
		Haven't seen it, but I'll probably have to check that one out.
		All right, next caller.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Yeah, this is Bob from Ohio.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Bob.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		Hey, so I got a question for you.
unidentified		So I heard Peter Johnson come out and say working off for 14 months.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, how come they can't work 14 days is like a half a month of their work.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, well, that's one angle to put on it.
		The thing that I found strange was the selling point, which I viewed as political propaganda.
		Again, I don't get heartbroken over this stuff, but Stephen Miller is one of my favorite people involved in politics.
		He's one of my favorite people involved in the Trump administration.
		And that really hasn't changed.
		But it was a little, you know, it was not good.
		He was promoting political propaganda today.
		And I'm sure Trump put him up to it.
		And they said, oh, this whole thing is Trump's.
		Trump constructed it.
		It's all Trump's thing.
		And then, and then Johnson comes out and says, oh, we've been working on it for 14 months.
		Well, then, so then how is it Trump's thing if it's been in the works for 14 months?
		That doesn't even make sense.
		So somebody's lying here.
unidentified		Marjorie Taylor Greene for president.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't mind that.
unidentified		I don't either.
		At least speaker.
		At least speaker.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		At this point.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, Johnson is just such a failure.
		He should just resign at this point.
		This thing, this thing has been such a debacle.
		This thing has gone so bad that Johnson should just resign.
		I mean, he's just awful.
		I mean, Kevin McCarthy was better.
		And I'm not saying it was a bad move.
		I'm not saying it was a bad move to get rid of McCarthy.
		I liked it and I was hoping it would end up with a good result.
		We got a bad result.
		We made the right move, but we got a bad result.
unidentified		So it should have been McDonald's from MTG.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And they got stopped.
		But yeah, Johnson is officially worse than Kevin McCarthy.
		I don't even think it's close, actually.
		I don't even think it's close.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Are you talking to Nate?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'm talking to you.
unidentified		Hey, man.
		How's it going, brother?
		Yeah, I mean, everything to me seems a little fishy.
		It seems to me like they're looking for, you know, once Elon got into the mix, he realized that the swamp was real.
		You know, I think he stood outside of it and thought that it was just some kind of a thing.
		But once he got into the DC gulag and realized that the whole thing was just a game of smoke and mirrors, I think it pissed him off.
		And I think that Trump's art of the deal is really kind of the key.
		That's where he motivates himself from.
		And I think that there's been some misrepresentation of people giving him the information that he needs to be able to be successful.
		Now, the whole petty, whiny, cry, everybody's shooting things off at each other and the Epstein and the, you know, the whole X nightmare, I think is, I think that's just egos.
		I think at the end of the day, I mean, what it really comes down to is that is it plausible to really clean this mess that is DC?
		And I think that that's really what it comes down to.
		What's your thoughts?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Where there is a will, there is a way.
unidentified		Yeah, and I think that it's just deep.
unidentified		And I think that once real, you know, once Elon put his foot into that pool, he realized that it was just, he's like, are you kidding me?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I think, and I think to expand on that a little bit, and this is where the cult of personality comes into play.
		And a lot of people, and, you know, I'm not trying to be insulting here.
		I think it just is what it is.
		I think a lot of people that, let me try to say this kindly because I don't want to be insulting.
		I think a lot of people with low political IQ that are reactionary and more into the loyalties or the cult of personalities than just dealing with reality.
		And they have trouble getting over bias.
		I think that it's not just boomers.
		I see a lot of it from all different types on X. And so I think that they're kind of missing, they're missing the obvious, which is what you just got into to open the call.
		I think Musk probably had a bigger will than President Trump to drain the swamp.
		And I think that this is, I think that this is now the thing.
		This is now the realization that a lot of big-time MAGA supporters and Trump supporters are struggling to cope with.
		I think that that's what it is.
		I think they're struggling to cope with this.
		And to me, the way I look at it is it's kind of an undeniable phenomenon right now is that Musk seems to have more will to drain the swamp than Trump.
		And so that's kind of how I see it.
unidentified		It's a big business space, don't you think?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, Musk got in there, but Musk comes forward.
unidentified		Yeah, but Trump, Trump comes from the business world.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Trump comes from the business world too.
		So I don't really think that one flies with me.
		I think that Musk got in there.
		And I think that, you know, he spent a lot of time.
		It cost him, it cost him a lot.
		He brought in the Doge team and they did all this great work.
		And then basically they just get told, okay, your time here is done and we're not going to cut anything.
unidentified		Here's the door.
unidentified		Right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And so I think that Musk.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And especially with the investment, you know, that he had into this whole journey.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And look, and I get it too.
		And I get it too from the perspective of, you know, if I work on a big project and sometimes it happens in media and you kind of have to deal with it.
		But if I work on a big project and I bring in a big crew and I ask them to work long, hard hours on a project and we complete the project and then we don't get to use the project, that sucks.
		Hey, look, I got to put you on hold for a second.
		I want to hear what Caroline Levitt, she's speaking on Hannity about this.
sean hannity ▲ ● ▼		I spoke for 90 minutes mostly about trade.
		It looks like they're switching.
		I've always known we'd get to this point.
		I've always believed that China will need access to our markets and it's in everybody's best interest to come to a deal.
		Can you give us any insight into that phone call?
unidentified		All right.
		Well, sure.
		As the president said on Truth Social and also discussed in the Oval Office today, this was a good, productive call.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It looks like we missed Levitt commenting on the Trump Musk thing.
		You know, I'll just say this.
		And it is what it is.
		With people like Caroline Levitt and Stephen Miller.
		And a lot of the members of the Trump team that are really well respected and really well liked.
		We got to be careful here.
		And I know they're going to do what Trump tells them to do.
		And I'm not, and this isn't, I'm not trying to be an alarmist here.
		I'm not trying to be an alarmist here.
		I'm just trying to issue a fair warning.
		You're quickly going to go the way of Kareem Jean Pierre.
		You are quickly going to be in the same ilk of a Kareem Jean Pierre, where if you just start slinging presidential White House propaganda, you're going to lose a lot of respect.
		And again, I'm not being an alarmist.
		We're nowhere near that point right now.
		But today was, to me, today was the first time where, I mean, you just got straight up political propaganda from the Trump administration about this bill.
		There's no other way to put it.
		That's what it was.
		And once you've done that, again, I still like Steven Miller.
		I think he's still one of the best people in D.C. I like Caroline Levitt.
		I think she does a great job.
		But it's like now, it's like, once you've sold me political propaganda once, I'm just like, I can never look at you the same.
		And that might just be me, but I doubt I'm alone in that boat.
		But I can, once, once you just sling political propaganda at the behest of whoever it is, there's no going back.
		You can't erase that.
		You can never erase that scar off your reputation.
		And now a lot of people have that scar, and it's not going anywhere.
		Anything else?
unidentified		Yeah, what I would like to say is that you're absolutely right.
		I think that, you know, the mandate that we voted for was for movement.
		And it just seems to me like now we're in the space of this nowhere land.
		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
		Here's here.
		I didn't, I was going to post this on X and I ended up not posting it.
		So maybe I'll just say it now.
		So, you know, get your clips ready here.
		Fuck the government.
		And I voted for Trump to fuck the government.
		That's it.
		And I don't think I'm alone.
		And that's what MAGA means to me.
		Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified		This is Joseph Vegas.
unidentified		How are you doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Joseph.
		Good.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Good.
		Speaking of Scar, I just wanted to know what do you think about Elon Musk, the black guy?
		I heard it was from the Scott Besson, knocked him out or something.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I've heard rumors.
		I don't even think it's worth talking about, honestly.
		And to me, I can't settle on anything, so I'm not even going to go there.
		There's some rumors, but I'm not even going to comment.
unidentified		All right, all right.
		And what's it called?
		Anna Paulina Luna, Ivanka Trump, Elena Abba, who are you taking home for the weekend?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It was, I'm sorry, I don't even want to, who is it?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
unidentified		Ivanka Trump, Elena Abba, and Ana Paulina Luna.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, actually, that's not even that hard.
		Anna Paulina Luna, 10 out of 10 times, I would say.
		I'm not such a fan of the other two anymore, to be quite frank.
		Yeah.
		Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified		I'm not such a fan of.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Next caller.
unidentified		This is David and Austin.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, David.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		I got a question for you.
unidentified		Do you think we can actually see meaningful change through political means at this point?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, I absolutely do.
		If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't do what I do.
		I wouldn't do this if I thought that.
		I absolutely believe we can.
		But again, somebody has to have the will to do it.
		And I get it.
		Look, I'm not sitting here in judgment of Trump.
		He's the man in the arena.
		He's the one that chose to put it all on the line.
		So this isn't even, I'm not even casting aspersions on Trump here.
		But I mean, but absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		And I made a speech at a Lincoln Day event last month.
		And I basically, this was kind of the thrust of my speech that, you know, Abraham Lincoln did a lot of controversial things.
		Abraham Lincoln did a lot of things that would be argued as unconstitutional.
		He did a lot of things that would be probably even argued as bad.
		And yet he's considered one of the greatest presidents of all time.
		And if you look at the results of some of the things that he did, which might have been bad, they ended up good.
		Now, I don't know if that's a perfect comparison because I think it was obviously a lot different time.
		But the point being, they were in a civil war.
		We are in a cold civil war.
		That is a very real thing.
		We are in a cold civil war.
		And so, yeah, you know what?
		Donald Trump might just have to tell the DOJ, go arrest Judge Boasberg.
		Donald Trump might just have to tell the DOJ, go arrest Ron Clain.
		And they'll be crying and wailing about due process and prosecutorial rights.
		I don't care.
		I do not care.
		These are corrupt criminals that have committed crimes against our country.
		And Trump has said it.
		He says, you do not commit a crime when acting in defense of your country.
		And I'm paraphrasing it or I'm getting a little bit wrong, but he's 100% right.
		So, so yeah, you know what?
		I get it.
		And Trump can make up his own mind.
		So he can either be the agent of change and do the bad things that need to be done for the greater good, or, you know, his next four years will come and go and whatever.
		We'll see what his, we'll see what his legacy is, but it's not, it's not going to be, it's not going to be, it's not going to be like an Abraham Lincoln.
		It'll just be kind of a cultural thing.
		It'll be kind of a patriotic thing.
		But as far as an agent of change, he's not going to be that guy.
		He can be if he wants to be, but not right now.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
		I agree entirely.
		I think that's how it feels.
unidentified		We had a cultural shift and that's about it.
		You know, where the migrate or where the deportations are like Ukraine's going on.
		We have all the Israel conflict that we're still right supporting.
		Like, I want, I want meaningful change abroad.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, you know what?
		And this is it, too, because, and even I think I might even be overselling how difficult it is.
		It's actually not even that hard when you think about it.
		It's actually not even that hard.
		Look, you can go to the USAID website.
		Now they're cutting that.
		Cut it all.
		Cut it all.
		We send hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign countries every year.
		Don't send another dime.
		That's not hard to do.
		Just do it.
		Do it.
		Who's going to complain about that?
		And whoever it is, ignore them.
		Look at Letitia James.
		Open and shut case mortgage fraud.
		Why hasn't she been shackled?
		Open and shut.
		I mean, there's stuff sitting on the desk.
		Get it done.
		Get it done.
		And it's just not, these are easy things you can do to be an agent of change.
		These are things that aren't even controversial that you can do as an agent of change.
		Not doing it.
		So I don't know.
		That's his call, not mine.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Flatliner from Milwaukee.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		What's up, big O?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Flatliner.
unidentified		Yeah, kind of want to just chime in.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Like, I was talking with Harrison and some other people about this, and I wanted to hear your opinion on it.
		Like with why are governments so like gay and retarded and fucked up?
		You know, and it's kind of like a loaded question, obviously, because it's like, where do you want to start?
		You know, that's why we call it the rabbit hole because it just keeps going and going and going.
		It's like, what's good in our government now?
		You know, and like necessary, not necessarily, I'm like, not necessarily blaming Trump.
		You know, he's doing what he's had.
		He's trying to blow his freaking head off.
		And, you know, obviously, you know, you get two alphas in a room like Trump and Musk.
		They're going to butt heads.
		And then there's people who are saying this is all grand theater.
		Maybe, maybe not, you know.
		But this Epstein stuff, you know, like you've been following in now.
		You're a professional at this for so long, you know, now, big old, like there's so much stuff they're not covering.
		And it's, I think the issue is obviously the Israeli issue where it's just, it's so sensey for them.
		You know, like no one talks about with Epstein, like that morning.
		Remember Owen on Twitter, how there was like a giant freaking armored truck just like booking it through New York and they got it on video and it went right from the jail in the morning to the airport private jet runway and a leader jet went right to Israel, you know, or like the whole thing of like, obviously Epstein having billions and billions of dollars and all these science connections and leverage, he's going to have a body double.
		You know, you think Saddam has a body double?
		There's going to be a body double and you're going to have a plan to fake your death like they always do, like the Saudi Sheiks have, like the Tsars had, like Hitler had.
		Obviously, they're going to have that.
		And my proof for that is like, who's smoking Jeffrey?
		Why are there still these assassinations going on and this money and like the estate operating and money being made with Palantir, you know, and even which, by the way, now it's all mainstream news.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now it's all mainstream news, Epstein's connection to Palantir.
		And so this all breaks at the same time.
		Yikes.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's like it's, and I also think it's tied in with AI.
		That's why this stuff is bringing.
		They have an AI designed, obviously, to mess with us and fuck with our heads and do all this propaganda.
		I don't think they've been writing it.
		You know, I don't think there's actually, I think they're contributing and they're steering it and using it to advantage, but it's, it's the ultimate mind control tool.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I think people tend to, you know, people tend, and they just can't help it.
		They tend to try to tie the Israel issue into everything.
		And I don't really, I don't really buy into that.
		I don't really agree with that train of thought.
		But having said that, it is.
		Well, yeah, well, it's definitely one of the biggest issues of our time.
		I mean, there's no doubt it's one of the biggest issues of our time.
		And it's not even popular anymore to support Israel.
		And it's become so cringe at this point.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		They shot themselves in the foot.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and Netanyahu has been a horrible leader for Israel.
		Netanyahu, the American people, we should be spitting on the ground ahead of Netanyahu.
		We should be so disgusted with Netanyahu, the lies he's told.
		The lies that he's told to our Congress to get American blood and treasure spilled in the Middle East are disgusting.
		Netanyahu should go down in American history as one of the greatest enemies that this country has ever had.
		So that's how propaganda works.
		They take your biggest enemy and they tell you he's your ally.
		But this is fading fast.
		And quite frankly, you know, here's my other problem, too, because I just want to kind of cover all the angles on this sensitive topic.
		The Israeli lobby and the corrupt Israelis have had a master class of propaganda where they've now convinced people that being critical of Israel is somehow anti-Semitism.
		Obviously, that's a lie.
		And beyond it being a lie, it is an extremely dangerous precedent that anybody that has an intellectual brain cell should realize is extremely dangerous.
		But this is what they've done.
		Now, the problem is, because of people like Mark Levin and maybe Netanyahu, but he's an Israeli.
		Well, I guess Netanyahu's probably an American too, actually.
		But because of people like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, now you have this situation where they claim to speak for all Jews.
		They claim that all Jews think the same, talk the same, and are all like them.
		And it's just not true.
		It is just not true.
		Many American Jews aren't even political.
		They don't even think about Israel.
		They could even care less about Israel.
		Probably the majority of them.
		Probably the majority of them don't even think about Israel or care about Israel, couldn't care less about Israel.
		I mean, that was my experience growing up.
		And I still have plenty of Jewish friends that I'll even get into debates with about Israel and Zionism.
		And it's perfectly fine.
		They don't freak out and go into this crazy diatribe about anti-Semitism or Iran or all this stuff.
		They're just, they're just going to have normal conversations like normal people.
		Like there was this clip the other day, and I could even play it, but it's just like, it's getting bad.
		The Israeli agents are exposing themselves.
		The Israeli first people that have infiltrated the MAGA movement, infiltrated the conservative movement, they're all exposing themselves.
		And there's one of them named Emily Austin, and she's speaking at an event, and she goes, oh, well, I'll always defend Israel, but from right here in America.
		Well, see, isn't that the problem?
		Isn't that the problem?
		Because in order to be an American, you're supposed to be an American.
		So if you're here and you're an Israeli first, then you're not an American to me.
		You're an Israeli.
		So go move to Israel.
		I'm not playing this game anymore.
		And neither are conservatives.
		The game is up.
		The gig is up.
		It's over.
		And Netanyahu is cooking you now because of what he's doing in the Gaza Strip.
		Oh, I will fight here in America forever for Israel.
unidentified		What?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're fighting for America.
		What do you mean you're going to, oh, oh, I see.
		You're going to fight for Israel from the comfort of America.
		Isn't that convenient?
		You're going to fight for Israel from the nice comfort of America.
		And you're going to infiltrate conservative politics and you're going to infiltrate Congress and you're going to use America as a nice buffer zone for you to get us into Israeli's wars and Israel's conflicts and all the hatred that Israel has motivated around the world.
		And you're going to be here seated nice and comfortable in America while you do it.
		It's disgusting.
		But the funny thing is, now that everybody's starting to turn on Levin, Emily Austin says this.
		I don't know what event she was speaking at.
		She says, oh, I'll be here fighting for Israel right here in America.
		And nobody clapped and she walked off the stage.
		It's like, read the room.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, they're killing kids.
		Read the room.
		They're killing kids.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Read the room.
		And this goes for Muslims.
		This goes for Jews.
		This goes for anybody that comes here.
		Leave your hatred on the other side of the planet.
		Leave.
		If you're going to come to America, then bring your loyalty here.
		Leave your hatred there.
		Leave your conflict there and bring your loyalty here.
		And if you're not willing to do that, then you're not an American.
		By definition, by the originalist standard, you're not an American.
		You're an infiltrator.
		And people are realizing it now.
		But it's unfortunate because, like I said, not all Jews think that way.
		It's just true.
		It's just true.
		But because of how overtly Israel-first they are now, now it really is a bad.
		It is bad.
		It is bad now in America.
		And people hate Jews.
		I mean, there's no way to put it, but it's because of bad faith actors like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.
		That's why.
		And of course, Netanyahu.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		100% agree with you.
		And like, he's like, Netanyahu's like the new pharaoh.
		He became the monster he wanted to fight.
		He's acting literally like Hitler.
unidentified		He's horrible.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's so funny.
		And it's so funny, too.
		Oh, my God.
		Don't even get me started on Portneroy.
		I'm going to be one.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And meanwhile, they spit on Christians and Israeli.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		They do all these gay and transparent.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want to get too much off topic.
		I thank you for the call.
		I want to get back to the topic of Trump Musk, but I'll be covering Portnoy tomorrow on the InfoWars War Room with a comedian guest.
		Yeah, Portnoy is crashing out bad.
		Oh, man.
		Before you brought up Portnoy, I was going to make a point, and now it slipped my mind.
		Damn.
unidentified		What was it you said before, Portnoy?
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that, you know, the Netanyahu's like the new pharaoh.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's what it was.
		Yeah, Netanyahu.
		Okay, yeah, yeah.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
		So here's what's amazing to me about conservatives.
		And it's just, it's just 100% true.
		The standing up for Israel and the fighting anti-Semitism, it's just Black Lives Matter for conservatives.
		It's just virtue signaling social justice warrior Olympics for conservatives.
		That's really what it is.
		That's exactly what it is.
		Not to say there isn't fair debate to happen there, but there's fair debate to happen with Black Lives Matter stuff too.
		But it's just the same thing.
		It's just the virtue signal, bait and switch, you know, oppression Olympics.
		But it's funny how Netanyahu can come out and talk exactly like a Black Lives Matter liberal.
		I mean, exactly like a Black Lives Matter liberal.
		And somehow conservatives eat it up.
unidentified		And I'm just like, how do you not see through this?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		If that was a Black Lives Matter leader that talked like that, you'd see through it immediately and you'd reject it at face value.
		But somehow Netanyahu does it and you buy into it.
		It's a really strange phenomenon, but it's not lasting much longer.
		I think support of Israel lasts maybe two more election cycles at best, but it's not going to last.
		And you know what?
		Look, this is sad.
		It's sad because you're going to have Jews get attacked.
		It's not going to stop.
		And then these sick Israelis like Netanyahu are going to use that to try to drum up more support for Israel.
		And it's just disgusting.
		The whole thing is just disgusting.
		All right, let's move on.
		Let's get back to the Trump Musk.
		Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified		Yeah, my name's Billy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		I'm from Kentucky.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I know it's a little bit off subject, but I called him before and I challenged Harrison Smith to wear the garb.
unidentified		He never did it.
kevin in ohio ▲ ● ▼		So I know he's listening.
unidentified		I would love to see him in a ball cap, you know, the shirt and maybe some pleated, you know, sunglasses if he could pull that off.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're talking about, but okay.
		The garb.
		All right, next caller.
		What's your name?
		Are you in Jeffrey Epstein's cell right now?
		All right.
		Learn how to use a phone.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Ronan from Texas.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Ronan.
unidentified		Good show today, by the way.
		I think when you pointed out when Trump was threatening to take away his contracts, I think it's pretty important to point out why they can't just do the Doge cuts then.
		Like, I think that's a pretty important point to get out to people.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I'm getting some pushback.
		And they're like, oh, well, Trump just said he would do it or he conceptually do it.
		Well, okay, I think you're still proving my point.
		If Trump, with the signing of a pen, can make the cuts to all of Musk's government's contracts, then why can't we do all the Doge cuts with the swipe of a pen?
		Again, it all comes down to Will.
		It all comes down to Will.
		If Trump wants to do it, he can do it.
		So it just comes down to Will.
		Does he want to do it?
		Does he have the will to do it?
		And that's what it comes down to.
		But yeah, I think that that was a major blunder from Trump to say, okay, well, I'll cut all, I'll cut all Elon Musk's contracts immediately, to which the obvious response is, okay, but why can't you cut the Doge cuts immediately?
unidentified		Yeah, it's even just the notion.
		It's neither here or there, if he was being serious or not.
		It's just the notion.
		It's pretty bald face right there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And they can't even do it.
		And you could like this or not.
		A lot of people would say it's a bad thing, and maybe it is.
		But I mean, Musk is so, I mean, Musk's businesses are so attached at the hip now to the government.
		You really, you can't even do it.
		You rely on Musk's companies to such a high degree that you can't even do that, which fine.
		I mean, cut them off.
		Just collapse the whole thing then.
		This government sucks.
		Give the country back to the people.
unidentified		I was saying we should just burn the whole thing down.
unidentified		It'd be hilarious.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, no.
		Actually, this is part of the ruse.
		This is part of the ruse where he's going to cut all the government contracts and then they're going to come out and admit that space is fake and gay.
		So it's all, it's all, it's all part of the ruse.
		So that's it.
		We figured it out.
unidentified		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for the call.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Bill, I'm from Wisconsin, Bill from Lumer Fan Club.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Bill.
unidentified		Am I on now, Owen?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're live.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		That was fast.
		Oh, and I forgot that I was, I'm live streaming you right now, and I can't live stream you and use my mic.
		So I'm calling you now on the phone.
		So thank you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You sound good.
		The audio is good.
		So you're good to go.
unidentified		All right, excellent.
		Owen, Paul Ryan.
		So we're talking about Speaker Johnson.
		The infamous photo that's been on my timeline so many times.
		I'm in Wisconsin.
		I've been in Paul Ryan's district for like 25 years.
		I know him.
		I've walked 50 parades with the guy.
		He's the root of all of our evil here, Owen.
		People need to really focus on that.
		And I'll just focus on one more thing.
		And Wisconsin's a big deal in the politics.
		And the whole Wisconsin conservative thing, it's bullshit.
		The news talk in Milwaukee, News Talk 1130.
		It's a total never Trumper network.
		It's Jay Weber.
		It's the old Mark Belling, Vicki McKenna, who used to love Sarah Palin, used me to get to Sarah Palin.
		Then she turned on Sarah Palin when Sarah Palin endorsed her.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But hold on a second.
		Hold on a second.
		Why do you bring up Paul Ryan?
		Do you think he's controlling Mike Johnson?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		And go back to the exact photo that I use in my timeline all the time.
		Remember when they caught Paul Ryan walking down that stairway and it was with Johnson?
		And then you zoom in and Johnson had his body language, his head down.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But was there any other instances?
unidentified		All right.
		You know how Obama's in charge of the Democrat Party?
		Paul Ryan is in charge of the, quote, Republican Party, not the mega party, the Republican Party.
		That's the head.
		And he's even got control of the whole Fox News thing, too.
		This is well overlooked.
		And here's where I'm going to leave you with this thought, Owen.
		Paul Ryan quit.
		These people never quit.
		When did Paul Ryan quit?
		Paul Ryan quit right after there was a scandal about the Republican slush fund to pay off staffers, male or female, that were assaulted.
		After that assault, after that scandal came out, is after Paul Ryan quit.
		These people never quit.
		And remember, Paul Ryan lived and slept in his office in D.C. Also known for his $200 bottle of wine dinners.
		And I can tell you that from Wisconsin, the females around here in the quote conservative Republican Party, when Paul Ryan would go to whatever event, whether it was the person.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, okay, but let's bring it back.
		Let's bring it back to the subject.
		So do you think Mike would do you think Mike Johnson is intentionally intentionally misleading and subverting Trump with this awful big beautiful bill negotiation?
unidentified		100%.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And you think that's at the behest of Paul Ryan?
unidentified		And the whole machine and the whole machine.
		It's the same machine that shut down Trump for the two years in his prior.
		Remember when Paul Ryan shut him down?
		Now he's doing the same thing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I'll tell you, it's an interesting angle.
		But Johnson is obviously the problem.
		I mean, Johnson is the biggest problem here.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		This is Dan from Idaho.
		I apologize if I already missed it.
		He has already talked about it, but regarding Trump on the Epstein list, what's your gut say?
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he's on it or no?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, so I mean, we already know what it is.
		He is on the list.
		He's on the Epstein flight logs.
		He took a flight, I think it was from Florida to New York or something.
		I think Trump's, if I recall all the details, Trump's plane went down.
		And, you know, all these billionaires, they got all their planes parked at all these different airports.
		They're just sitting there.
		And either he asked or Epstein offered his plane because Trump's wasn't working.
		So he flied it to New York or to Florida, one of the two, I think it was.
		There's no evidence he went to the island.
		And it came out in the court cases with the lawyers and even the FBI on record.
		And this was before the first Epstein charges, that Trump worked with the FBI to conduct the investigation into Epstein.
		And Trump also kicked Epstein out of all of his clubs.
		He got privy to Epstein recruiting girls at his clubs.
		That's when he started cooperating with the FBI to bring Epstein down.
		So, yeah, you could say it's true he's on the Epstein logs.
		He did take a flight on his plane.
		I don't even, Epstein wasn't even on it.
		I think Trump was on it with like a couple people.
		I don't think Epstein was even on it.
		There's no proof he went to the island.
		So that to me was a little, if Elon Musk is accusing Trump of being blackmailed by the Epstein Israeli Blackmail Network, CIA Masad Blackmail Network, then I think that's a little disingenuous.
		But of course, the people that think it's just a ruse or like a Q thing, they think Musk is tipping the cap that, yeah, Trump is in the Epstein list because he was the one that helped bring him down.
		So, you know, I'm not convinced that that's the case, but those are what the people that think this whole thing is just a ruse, that's what they believe.
unidentified		Cool.
unidentified		Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, brother.
		All righty.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		I'm from San Diego, California.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, I want to talk about the bill.
		Obviously, the AI thing is a big issue.
		You know, not about it.
		And seeing how we had these, the ATF and everybody going in and raiding everybody going on and inhibiting what we want to have done.
		The idea that I have is maybe send out some, you know, scouts and just basically let them watch what's going on during these possible raids and arrests and just have them document where these people are that are agitators.
		And then, you know, go pull a warrant.
		And then five days later, when they're at the kid's birthday or whatever, go and arrest them, make an example.
		You know, I mean, that'd probably be the best thing to do rather than inciting a riot.
		Am I wrong on this?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I lost you at the beginning.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		So the arrests that are going on with ETF and ICE and agitators trying to inhibit and stop them.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, I'm trying to talk about the Musk-Trump feud.
		So I didn't know if you were going to connect it to that or not.
unidentified		Sorry, sorry about that.
		So, all right, let me get on.
		Let me get on that one.
		Musk and Trump, a psyop.
		Trump had to leave at the end of May.
		Everybody knew that.
		And then we have the whole thing with the Epstein files going on, right?
		Yeah, Trump knew who Epstein was, and it's like the Pam Bondi binder.
		You know, it's like a nothing burger.
		So maybe Trump and Elon had this idea, like, hey, let's just play him.
		You know, let's throw it out there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		I don't buy into that theory, but I will say this, because I'm just somebody that does like, I mean, I just eat the whole plate.
		So it's like, well, I don't really like broccoli, but I eat broccoli anyway.
		It's on my plate.
		So I just eat the whole plate.
		The Q people did say that there would be some big ruse to begin the Q process in June.
		They have been saying that.
		It's also interesting that Trump disappeared basically for four days before any of this went down.
		And he was public and speaking to the public every single day.
		And that was for four days he disappeared.
		And now all of this stuff happened.
		So again, I don't think it's a ruse, but I will say that those are kind of interesting little factoids that go into this.
		And let me just say this too.
		And I'm just trying to impart my wisdom through experience on people that listen to me.
		Because, you know, a lot of people in media like to they have like this separatist attitude where they want to basically have like an edge over their audience.
		I don't like to do that.
		I like my wisdom and experience to actually, I want you to understand that if I can possibly pass it down to you.
		And so here's what I've learned from my career at InfoWars and everything that we've been through.
		And I can maybe cite a couple examples, but basically what I've learned is as a conspiracy theorist, more times, maybe more times than not, but more times than we suspect, a cigar is just a cigar.
		A spade is just a spade, meaning you're going to light that cigar and it's not going to blow up in your face.
		And so, you know, we tend to kind of get caught in this vortex because government is so corrupt.
		We get lied to about everything.
		We get lied to about history, lied to about current events, or media lies to us.
		So it's just like we kind of get trapped in this vortex of lies where now we just don't think anything can be real when a lot of things are real.
		A lot of things are still real.
		It's like, so it's like you smoke 10 cigars that blow up in your face.
		You think that 11 cigars is going to blow up in your face, but it's like, oh, I actually can smoke this cigar.
		Here's a specific example.
		And this is more of a learning curve for me where I can kind of practically apply what I'm talking about here.
		I have watched people lie about Alex Jones for, I've worked at InfoWars now for nine years.
		I have watched people lie about Alex Jones for nine years.
		But it's not the lies.
		We're used to people lying.
		What has been a learning curve for me is I have watched people say things about Alex Jones that are completely wrong.
		Like, I know it.
		I know Alex.
		I see him every day.
		And I know they are wrong.
		And I know the things they say about Alex are wrong.
		And yet they have their utmost confidence that they're right.
		They really believe they are right and they got Alex figured out and they've figured it all out and they're smarter than everybody else and they're saying this about Alex and they know it's true.
		And I'm like, I know you're wrong.
		And so what I've learned from that is never assume you're right because you're emotional and be careful about things you don't actually know that you think you know.
		Because the minute you get something like that wrong and somebody sees it, maybe somebody powerful, maybe somebody influential, maybe even the person you're talking about, and the minute they see that and they see how wrong you are, but yet how right you think you are, you lose all credibility.
		So these are just two kinds of learning curve, you know, wisdom through experience that I've learned and that I've applied to my practice and my career.
		And so I try not to do that.
		And then you kind of sometimes might have to be patient with things or, you know, play the 48-hour rule and see what's really going on.
		But, you know, jumping to conclusions about things that I don't know or people that I don't know or just thinking everything is a lie, everything is a setup.
		Everything is a psyop.
		I've just learned not to do that.
		I've just learned not to do that because, I mean, really more than anything, it's like it's like, am I going to keep swinging at a curveball in the dirt?
unidentified		No.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How many times is a pitcher going to throw me a curveball in the dirt and I'm going to swing and miss?
		Maybe once, maybe twice, then I'm not going to do it anymore.
		So that's kind of what it's like.
		That's just kind of my learning curve, wisdom through experience that I try to impart on you.
		Because again, a lot of talks hosts, a lot of people in political media, they want to keep things from their audience and kind of keep you in the dark and maybe help you get things wrong or assume wrong things to kind of makes them feel better than you, makes them feel superior to you.
		We're not doing that here.
		All right, let's take another call here.
		We're going to take a couple more, but we're almost done.
		All right, next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Hey, Owen.
unidentified		Am I on?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're live.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, what's up?
		It's Keaton from Arizona.
		I actually spoke to you a couple of days ago on your show.
		What's up, brother?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How are you doing?
unidentified		Hey, man.
		So I've kind of had some time to think about this whole Elon Musk Trump thing.
		And I'm with Trump on this one because it doesn't make sense that the deep state wouldn't have released these Epstein files on sooner.
		And I think it's also really weird that Elon Musk is kind of saying that, oh, Trump is only around for 3.5 years.
		I'm around for 40 plus years.
		So it seems like almost like a coup almost.
		Like Musk is doing this weird soft coup trying to position himself for the presidency.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, let me just address a couple things.
		Musk cannot run for president.
		So so that's so that's off the table now.
		He could he could financially back somebody and use his influence and political capital to get somebody in there if he's if he chose to do that, but he can't run for president.
		Now, um, to be more to be more specific, are you insinuating that Trump was a Democrat operative or an operative from the beginning, or do you think he no, no, oh, oh, I'm sorry, you mean Musk?
unidentified		Like, was Musk an operative?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		No, no, I, it's weird because that's kind of it's what it's starting to seem like because he kind of came in out of nowhere with support for the MAGA movement.
		And I always thought that that was a little sus.
		It was like, you know, when I would talk to my friends, I'd say, you know, we need to keep a really close eye on him because yes, he's doing really great things.
		And I think Trump was kind of using him for his influence and his money.
		But at the end of the day, I mean, he is, he's one of the most powerful virtuous men in the world.
		Of course, he's going to end up in a power struggle at some point with Trump.
		So I'm not 100% sure what his angle is, but I just don't really trust him.
		And I saw, I don't know if it's fake news, but I saw some post on X that apparently Musk is saying that he's going to go nuclear on Trump and he's willing to back some Democrats now if he needs to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I think of pulling of pulling money from Republicans and backing Democrats.
		I think a lot of that is posturing.
		You know, here's here's, and maybe he does it, but here's the one thing I would say about as far as Musk, you know, maybe he has his own agenda or you said a coup.
		I don't think that's the right word to use, but I get the point you're trying to make.
		I think if that was true, and I think if Musk had ulterior motive, ulterior motives, or was kind of sneaking around for access or whatever, I don't think he would be doing this today because that wouldn't really make sense.
		You'd want to remain on good terms with the White House and you'd want to keep your access and influence strong if you had ulterior motives to, you know, whatever, whatever they were.
		You'd want to keep that strong.
		So to me, burning the bridges, I don't, I think that kind of disproves that theory.
		And look, as far as he comes out of nowhere and backs Trump, I mean, you can disagree, but from where I'm sitting, I think it was just for Musk.
		It was practical.
		It was common sense.
		And he did have issues when it came to the vaccine mandates.
		And he does have issues with the left and their transgender agenda.
		And he does understand that the vision he has for the world, he's going to need unlimited energy.
		And the Democrats want to kill energy.
		So I do think there's a practical, pragmatic entryway for Trump into politics.
		I don't think it was, I don't think it was ulterior motives.
		I think it was practical.
		Again, maybe he has his own agenda, but I don't think it was for nefarious reasons.
		I don't think so.
		All right, let's take another call.
		I'm going to do two more calls.
		So this call and then one more call.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where you from?
unidentified		Yeah, I am Cameron from Michigan.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Cam.
unidentified		Yeah, how are you doing?
unidentified		I really enjoyed your work at the border.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		But yeah, the Trump-Elon thing, that's 100% legitimate.
		I think the feud is legitimate.
		Just going back to Trump's personality, I mean, reminds me a lot of the Bannons when Bannon was in the White House and they feuded.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and now Bannon, you know, Bannon's inserting himself.
		Look, let me just say this.
		And I don't have a problem with Steve Bannon.
		Okay.
		I don't.
		So I'm not, I'm not, this is not me attacking Steve Bannon.
		Everybody's got their own approach.
		But Bannon really is a master at inserting himself into any story.
		Okay.
		And I think that that's what he's done here more than anything.
		He's just inserting himself into this story.
		Maybe he means what he's saying.
		Maybe not.
		I don't know.
		But he's a master at finding a way to insert himself in every story and finding a way to get his name into the press.
		So he's a master at that.
		I kind of think that that's what he's doing more than anything here.
unidentified		Well, I haven't heard from Bannon.
		That's just an example of kind of how Trump reacts to people who attack him, even if they're allies.
		You know, I'm not a fan of Bannon either.
		It was just an example of how Trump reacts.
		But, you know, Elon, I think.
		So Elon.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But you know what?
		Here's interesting, actually.
		What's interesting about the Bannon angle is, you know, Bannon was kind of the original Elon.
		You know, Bannon got into the White House and he had all these grandiose ideas for MAGA and seemed to have the will to do it.
		And the swamp stopped him.
		And then he got pushed out.
		And now it's like Musk.
		It's like Musk had all these grandiose ideas for MAGA and had the will to do it.
		And then he's out.
		So it's weird that Bannon would go against Musk when they kind of had the same political arc in the Trump White House.
unidentified		Yeah, so you can kind of see that correlation there between the two, even though they're so far apart timeline-wise.
unidentified		But yeah, I think Trump wants this bill passed, but Elon is legitimate in saying it's overbudgeted and Trump really like they're just feuding.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and now they've lost the Republicans.
		They don't have the votes.
		They just don't have the votes.
		They don't have the votes in the House now either.
		So the thing's done.
		I mean, maybe it still passes, but it's honestly, look, Trump, if I was advising Trump, my advice would be to spike this bill.
		It's a killer of the MAGA movement.
		It's already a disaster of a bill.
		And even if you can get it passed, it already stinks so badly that nobody wants it in the room.
		And so even if you do pass it, now the whole room is going to stink.
		And so nobody even wants this bill.
		So if I, if, if, well, Speaker Johnson, you know, I guess forget about having any faith in him doing anything good or right.
		But I still believe somebody in the Trump administration or Trump himself can maybe write this wrong.
		And it's very simple.
		You just come out and it's hard.
		I get it.
		When you're, when you got a huge ego and you're a narcissist and you're used to being the man with all the power, all the gravity, it's hard to accept defeat.
		But sometimes you got to be smart and sometimes you got to retreat.
		And I would tell, I'd be advising Trump.
		I'd say, look, Mr. President, you just, you know, I guess if you knew how to talk to president, you knew how to talk to Trump, you could find a way of saying it.
		Because if you said it like this, it wouldn't work.
		But I would say, Mr. President, you got to take the loss on this.
		You got to take the loss and you got to retreat.
		And you need to come out and put the pressure on Mike Johnson and say, hey, this thing is blown up in our face.
		This thing has been a disaster.
		So you have to kill this bill and then you have to take the tax cut portion and put it into a single bill and get that done.
		You have to take the deportation section and put it into a single bill and get that done.
		And whatever the real priority items are, and you can get these things done in a couple pages and get them read and passed in an hour.
		You don't need 1,100 pages of a bill that you give Congress members against the rules of Congress a couple hours to read.
		So that's what should be done.
		That's what the advisors should be telling Trump.
		But, you know, he's stubborn and he's got a big ego and he probably doesn't want to take the loss.
		But that's what should happen.
		He needs to take the loss and he needs to retreat and he needs to put the onus back on Mike Johnson to come to him with a clean bill or a series of one-item bills and then you can get the agenda done.
		And the fact they don't want to do that to me just tells me the whole thing is corrupt.
		Because to me, that's common sense.
		If you're not willing to do that, then you're trying to sneak something by us.
		If you're not willing to do that, then you're trying to deceive us.
		You're trying to put bad stuff in this bill if you're not willing to do that.
unidentified		Trump needs to spike that bill.
		Unfortunately, Trump's always been kind of a big spender guy to get our stuff through, but he also lets in all the corruption as well.
		That's kind of how he's always gone approach these bills.
		He did it in his first term, too, which kind of worked out in his favor because he was able to get ahead of the deep state and do what he wanted.
		But at the same time, unfortunately, Trump keeps working with the swamp when he needs to start draining them.
		And, you know, the whole thing about Elon saying Trump was in the Epstein files.
		I mean, he knows that true.
		He knows that's true.
		We know that's true.
		But it's not what everybody's saying.
		It's just like you said, Trump took a flight once on the flight plan.
		You know, that's old news.
		Reddit trolls have been bringing that up forever.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And the Democrats and the deep state would have, they would have crushed Trump on that if they could have, and they, and they couldn't.
		So it, you know, I think that that also shows that there's no real there there.
		Because if there was, the Democrats would have already, you know, been successful at making it stick and they couldn't do it.
		And I will say the one other thing I guess we haven't mentioned here is, look, if Trump's mindset, which it could be very real, yes, he wants to spend a lot of money and he probably figures, hey, every other country on earth rigs their currency.
		Every other country on earth rigs their economy.
		Every other country on earth has a worse deficit and debt to GDP ratio than we do.
		So why don't we cheat?
		Why don't we cheat?
		Why do we care about being fiscally responsible when nobody else on the planet is?
		So why not just spend all the money we don't have?
		Why not just go deeper into debt?
		It's not going to make a difference.
		The whole planet.
		It's all fake money.
		Maybe he already knows they stole all the money from Fort Knox.
		Notice how that story's completely gone away.
		So, no, now maybe he even knows that there's no gold.
		So he's like, he knows it's all fake.
		So why not just print more fake monopoly money?
		But then how do you tell that to the American people?
		So it's, you know, that's that's another interesting concept that I could see being very real as well.
		All right, final call of the night.
		Last caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Mark from Arizona.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mark, go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, yeah, so I was just talking to my dad before you went live, and he was just, I mean, he's all MAGA, everything like that.
		And he's just like, oh, we just need to pass it, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
		I'm like, these older MAGA people, they don't get about the AI, the AI thing.
		They just don't understand about how it, you know, it could be a good thing.
		It could be a horrible thing.
		And we just don't know.
		It's our ass.
		I'm working right now, but with the whole Elon Trump thing, I don't know.
		I don't know what to think about it.
		I hope that he's not on FC's list or, you know, anything deep like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what it is.
		Here's what it is.
		We're not doing politics as usual.
		We're not playing that game.
		You're not going to sell us on it.
		It's not going to work.
		So, yeah, you'll have some boomers or establishment Republicans that probably would have voted for Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush in 2016.
		So whatever.
		Those people are going to exist.
		Not to insult.
		I think it was your father, whatever, but believe me, there's plenty of them out there.
		They don't get, they don't get what this is really all about.
		We're not doing the status quo.
		We're not doing politics as normal.
		And so you can tell us it's the greatest bill ever.
		You can say it all day long.
		You can put a nice little name on it, big, beautiful bill.
		Big, beautiful bill.
		You can put a nice name on it.
		Hey, fine.
		It's politics as normal for us.
		We didn't vote for politics as normal.
		We voted to burn politics as normal to the ground.
		So selling us, hey, let's do this politics as normal stuff.
		We're not buying.
		I don't care how many bells and whistles you put on it.
		I don't care what kind of gift wrapping you put on it.
		I don't care what name you write on it.
		We're not doing it anymore.
		We're not supporting it anymore.
		I mean, read the room.
		It's obvious.
		And if anything, Elon Musk is sticking his neck out there, whether it's for personal reasons or he's just reading the room himself.
		He's sticking his neck out there and saying, this ain't it.
		This is not it.
		And so I think that really.
		And I still support Trump.
		I still support Musk.
		But I'm not loyal to a cult of personality.
		I'm not loyal to a person.
		I mean, I will say this, in fairness, I actually am loyal to people, but those are people that I have personal relationships with.
		So I'm loyal to my friends.
		I'm loyal to my family.
		I'm loyal to Alex Jones, but these are people I have personal relationships with.
		I don't have a personal relationship with Donald Trump.
		I mean, he did offer, he did give me a pardon.
		So I guess I'll always be loyal to Trump for pardoning the January Sixers, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to stop being loyal to the truth.
		That doesn't mean I'm not going to stop calling it like I see it.
		And that's just how it is.
		So that's going to do it.
		Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
		I left out the fun stuff tonight.
		We didn't get into the memes.
		Maybe we'll do some of that tomorrow on the InfoWars War Room.
		If you like the shirt I'm wearing, which of course you do because you're a great American patriot, go to owenschroyer.store.
		That's where you can get this t-shirt.
		I think it's my favorite t-shirt we've ever made.
unidentified		And we've made quite a few, actually.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We've made quite a few t-shirts.
		Is it not going to let me put this up now?
		Now, why would it?
unidentified		Why would it?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So if you like the t-shirt, owenschauer.store is where you can get it.
		We'll see you tomorrow on the InfoWars War Room.
		It's going to be a fun day.
		It's going to be a fun show.
		We're going to do a Diddy trial update with a lawyer who's been in the courtroom every day.
		And then we're going to hear from a comedian about Dave Portnoy's calls to cancel comedy as well as whatever other craziness happens between now and then.
		God bless, Godspeed, and we'll see you tomorrow.
unidentified		I stood on the back porch.
		There was nobody home.
		I was stunned and amazed.
		My childhood memories sort of swirled past like the wind through the tunes.

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