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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, Owen Schroyer Live, episode 106.
We're going to be monitoring the results of the Canadian election.
Is it going to be stolen right in front of our eyes?
Early indicators look like that might be the case.
Some crazy things going on in Canada.
There's also a live debate going on right now between Paleo Christian and Andrew Wilson that I was listening to before I signed on.
I think we may pick that one right up out of the gates.
But first, a little insephirum, you know it.
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Let's get it as the audience joins us.
Rebase that into my head.
Just inject it into my veins, Windrider.
Insephirum.
All right, we don't have time to enjoy the heavy metal too much.
I want to get right into this debate before it concludes, or I think it might be over.
They're taking questions now.
Owen Schroyer Live, episode 106, is the Canadian election being stolen.
I'm going to monitor this.
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I want to go.
I want to get to this debate as soon as possible as it looks like they're taking questions now.
And it's actually apostate prophet versus Andrew Wilson.
Let's go live here.
This has been entertaining.
unidentified
It's never about loving them, Andrew.
It's about supporting those people without them being extra loved.
owen shroyer
And by the way, our friends at Uncensored America hosting a great debate here.
unidentified
I just have a curious question on AP's position on the Jews of Israel.
How do you know that the Jews in Israel today are the same contextual Jews in the Bible?
It doesn't really matter because.
owen shroyer
Why do they always say that?
unidentified
Yes, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter at all.
Why does it matter?
And how do they always say it doesn't matter?
owen shroyer
What do you mean it doesn't matter?
You just decide what matters and what doesn't matter?
No, they say, they always say it doesn't matter when they don't have a legitimate response.
That's what they always do.
unidentified
What do you want to prove that they are actually the same Jews?
Do you want to prove that by blood?
Do you want to prove that by tradition?
We have in the Bible when Paul deals with the people in his time who are Israelites, who are Israelites by his flesh.
He talks about those who still hold on to the traditions.
That's what he points out.
He says that they have a very great zeal for God and for the law.
That's what he says about those that he considers evil.
And he points out that because of the traditions.
owen shroyer
So those would be Orthodox Jews.
unidentified
Those Jews continued after the fall of the second temple to still hold on to their traditions.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Orthodox Jews.
unidentified
There's a new tradition which is called Rabbinic Judaism, which started as soon as the temple fell.
Those same Jews held onto their traditions and continued to be the very same Jews that we have today.
The Judaism that started when the temple fell was rabbinic Judaism.
The Jews that we have today are rabbinic Jews.
They are the same Jews.
There's arguments to be made against this, including that they're not doing sacrifices in a tabernacle or in the temple.
So it may not be the true succession of rabbinic Judaism.
But even granting the fact that there's a possibility that it is, it doesn't really matter because when we're talking about Paul here, he says, he says, bloodline itself is irrelevant.
That's not, but what do you think Paul was talking about when he said, my people?
Do you think he was talking about some future people that wasn't a part of the people group he's addressing right then?
No.
No, he wasn't.
That's nowhere in the scripture here.
It actually is.
Well, then you've refuted your argument twice because now you're saying what he's saying is there's a future group of people who could be considered Israel, right, who are not the group of people he's talking about right this second.
I would say, Ridvin, that we know who that people group is, the church and Christians.
No, because he's talking about those who have rejected Christ.
How can that be the church?
And how are they going to be reconciled?
How can the church be those who rejected Christ?
How can the church be those who are in sin and who are in their rejection and who are enemies because of you, because of the gospel, but still beloved to God because of their ancestors?
How can that be the church?
That doesn't make any sense.
Here's what doesn't make any sense.
Ridban.
So when you move into this, what I'm arguing to you is when you say a reconciliation for these people, I want them to come back into God.
Okay?
That's what I want.
I want that more than any other person.
I also want it, but for that, they have to be alive.
Yeah.
Ridban, Ridben, does that mean that I have some moral obligation?
How much treasure should I give, Ridman?
I give you a chance to support them.
How much?
You got to go to the next one.
How much is that?
That's a trivial issue, which we can talk about.
A dollar?
Do you agree that we should support it?
50 cents?
No, that you haven't provided me an ought yet for why I'm not.
If you don't agree that we should support them, then what's the point of talking about the details of how we should support them?
Because they need to start with an odd.
I need to do this because we have so many questions, gentlemen.
We're going to go to the next question.
Hey, Ridvin, congrats first on joining the church.
I just have a quick disambiguation question for you.
Would you make the argument that your exegesis of Romans 9 through 11 would be supported by the majority of patristic sources or even the majority of modern biblical scholarship outside of dispensational circles?
And if so, could you elucidate on that?
Well, as I said, when I talked about it, when I went through my script, I appealed to some very, very important figures in early church history.
As Orthodox Christians, I'm sure Andrew also knows that St. John Chrysostom is an extremely respected figure in terms of his homilies.
The one who wrote a homily against the Jews, yes, exactly that one.
Exactly that one.
Do you know what he says in his homily on Romans 11?
If you want to cherry pick it, I wouldn't advise it.
Well, it's not cherry picking.
owen shroyer
I wouldn't advise it.
unidentified
It's not cherry-picking because what he says is that what St. Paul says about the Jews being grafted back in, it will come true.
And he says, if it has not happened yet, then you must be sure that it is bound to happen.
owen shroyer
I find this so pedantic.
I find this so pedantic from Christians.
I have to be honest with you.
Now, I'm personally of the mindset that I don't really, how can I say this?
I don't really care what your religion is.
It's not really on me to judge you based off of your religious beliefs, which is going to be mostly predetermined by your upbringing, not your bloodline, your upbringing.
But so I'm open-minded.
I'll get along with anybody.
But what I don't understand from Christians is what I don't understand from the people that support this concept of Judeo-Christ or even Christian Zionists.
Fundamentally, it seems hyperbolic and flawed.
And everybody kind of likes to have their own interpretation of the Bible, but it seems pretty clear to me that Jesus came.
If you're a Christian, if you believe Jesus was the Messiah, and you do have Messianic Jews, if you're an Orthodox Jew or still of the original Jewish heritage and you don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, okay, that's your belief.
But as somebody that does believe that, how can you tolerate this idea that the Jews are God's most beloved people or the chosen people or they have some sort of religious rights or claims to land or superiority when it's pretty clear that Jesus died for everyone's sins and that Jesus reintroduced the church that there were no chosen people except those that decided
to follow Jesus.
So I just don't understand.
It seems fundamentally opposed.
It seems fundamentally opposed to claim to be a Christian Zionist.
Now, if you want to support Israel for other reasons, then, okay, that's fine.
I just don't get it.
Judeo-Christian is, to me, a made-up concept to get Christians to cuck.
And Christian Zionists are just cucked Christians.
That's how I look at it.
So I mean, again, I don't really mind.
You can be whatever religion you want.
It's mostly due to your upbringing.
And you don't really want to get into this debate about heritage and ancestry, because unfortunately, for most modern day Jews, they'll discover that they're probably less Semitic than the Palestinians.
So they don't want to go down that argument.
The Palestinians will be provably more Semitic than modern day Israel, Israelites or American Jews that are probably majority European now.
And that's why it's so funny when you watch these white girls say, oh, you know, I'm not white.
I'm Jewish.
I got two eyes.
What do you mean you're not white?
You're whiter than me.
But I just don't get how you can go up there with a crucifix and then say, no, the Jews are God's chosen people.
And so they're more important than me.
Well, what are you doing then?
Then you don't believe in Jesus Christ.
You don't believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
So you might as well just try to be Jewish, which they will claim you aren't unless you are of the heritage.
I guess you can convert to Judaism.
I just always find that fundamentally flawed.
I've never understood that concept.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
unidentified
Yeah, so I can respond to this as well very quickly because Ridvin's not going to.
They're short-circuited him.
So the question was actually a good question.
The question was, wait a second, didn't Jews exist before there was an Israel?
So how is it that even if Israel wasn't there, Jews would just stop existing?
That makes no sense.
Great question, right?
Seems like it's a performative contradiction in his worldview, which is why he doesn't want to address it.
Here's the truth, right?
And nobody's calling for there to not be a state of Israel, by the way.
But if we were to hypothetically even say that Israel was destroyed and Jews, again, had to disperse or were scattered, that doesn't mean that they would be Jews themselves, would be destroyed.
They would go back to other nations where they were before.
Now, here's the issue.
I was actually answering a question, but if you let me speak without trying to interject every second, I would actually answer your question properly because I understand the question that you asked.
owen shroyer
That's not what's been going on.
By the way, this guy's been interrupting.
unidentified
So weren't they around before?
How were they able to establish this land?
Did their existence really depend on the land?
If the land is destroyed, does that really mean they would all go extinct and so on?
Here's the issue.
You have a significant part of the Jewish population that currently lives in the land of Israel.
If the land of Israel would be destroyed, a significant part of the Jewish population would be eradicated.
That means a small amount of Jewish people who are outside of Israel would, of course, still be left.
The amount of those who survived the massacre that would unfold, which Andrew Wilson here never actually acknowledges, would, of course, survive and run away.
But do you really, how is it, how is it a reasonable or proper point to simply allow for that to happen instead of protecting those people when it is so clear?
When it is so clear, that's a lie risk.
The majority of Jews don't live in Israel, Ridban.
What does that matter?
Because you just said that it would take out a substantial port of the population.
The majority, it's not even the majority of the population.
That's the point.
Nobody's calling for Israel to get wiped out at all.
All I'm saying is that there's no ought for Christians to support a nation that wants to have Antichrist by at least.
owen shroyer
And I would actually go a step further.
First of all, this isn't even about Christians.
This is about America.
America is forced to support Israel.
And it just so happens that Christians happen to be a dying breed in America, which is probably maybe the problem.
But that's not, this is America being forced to support Israel.
But I would argue, if you're a true believing Jew, then you would not need America's money.
You would believe that God is going to provide and God is going to protect as long as you live righteously by the laws given by God.
And then God will provide the protection and God will defeat your enemies.
Just like the Jews have been going through for thousands of years.
So again, it's another fundamentally flawed this time from the Jewish perspective, in my opinion, or it's not even that, really, it's the Israeli perspective or the Israel lobbyists and the pro-Israel American political sect.
No, real, to me, a real Jewish person, a true Jew, a true believer, puts faith in God to provide and protect.
Now, maybe they excuse that and they say, oh, that's what America is doing.
God is giving us America to protect us.
Which, how would an American feel about an admittance like that?
That America is only here to protect Israel.
Is that how you feel as an American?
That's how Ben Shapiro feels, by the way.
That's how a lot of American Jews feel, by the way.
Mark Levin, many others.
They believe the only purpose for America is to serve Israel.
So I guess in that aspect, they're being religiously consistent.
But how would you feel as an American if Israeli Jews said the only reason America exists is to protect us?
How would that make you as an American feel?
So good or not so much?
unidentified
Right?
I did cite the references.
Just because I don't put them up in a PowerPoint presentation for the purposes of time doesn't mean I didn't verbally cite them.
But most of my claims that I'm making, he agrees with.
He agrees that there's at least a large amount, at least by his admission, of Jews inside of Israel, up to 30% who want to name Antichrist.
I gave four logical arguments.
What references should I give you for logical arguments, except me?
Any beyond you, because I do not believe that I have.
What's a logical argument, dude?
I remember maybe one reference.
Do I go to an expert of logic to ask them for a logical argument, or can I make logical arguments?
You cited like one person this entire time.
That's it.
That's all you've given.
I cited my own logic.
I would like to be able to logic.
Are you saying that we should only believe you as the supreme authority?
owen shroyer
Believe me about what?
unidentified
Of course, man.
owen shroyer
That's why you claim it.
unidentified
Because you have to learn sources.
Yeah, do you know what?
Tell me this.
What's an argument?
What's a logical argument?
Well, you still have not yet claimed.
What's a logical argument?
Answer my question.
If you give a logical argument, which is steps from one to the next to the next, who's the source?
Who's the source of the logical argument?
At this point, it's you making it up.
And isn't it always the source that somebody is making a logical argument?
owen shroyer
I will be covering the Canadian election, yes.
unidentified
You can falsify arguments.
That's why they're called arguments.
They're falsifiable or they're provable.
That's why you give sources.
Sources for a logical argument that I made?
No, but I'm not very funny here.
owen shroyer
In case you had a significant thing, this is getting ridiculous.
unidentified
Sorry, folks, hold on.
Hang on, source.
Premise one, me.
Premise two, me.
Premise three, me.
Conclusion, also me.
Now, the great thing about that, you can falsify them with logic.
You know what I find very funny here?
Source.
Andrew claims.
Do you have a source for that?
Andrew claims on one hand that I agree with pretty much everything he said.
Yet during this entire night, during this entire debate, he claimed at least four times that I argued that Jews are more beloved than Orthodox Christians.
He did.
owen shroyer
I've heard him.
He said, actually, he's just.
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
He literally said that a half dozen times.
unidentified
I never, ever said that Jews are.
owen shroyer
Folks, I've been listening to this for over an hour.
He literally said that at least four times.
At least.
So I don't know.
I've never heard of this Ridavan guy.
This, I don't know what he calls himself.
He's an embarrassment.
unidentified
Drew, I'm not familiar with you personally.
So it's been interesting hearing your trains of thoughts.
However, I've heard a lot of straw man attacks tonight against magic Jew blood, feigned outrage about how much money for your kids you have to give up to Jews who reject Jesus, and claims about protecting an ethnic group or people's existence, meaning supporting a blasphemous Antichrist, none of which were brought up by AP or logically or intrinsically follow.
Meanwhile, biblically, we see God himself set up and set apart Israel for his glory.
And we see, open your mouth for the mute for the rights of those who are destitute.
Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.
Proverbs 31, 8 through 9.
So my question is, based on these things, if you believe in the sanctity of the lives God created, how can you attack the primary group who is speaking up for their preservation when the things that you claim, such as ushering in the Antichrist, prophecy, does not logically follow?
owen shroyer
So first of all, my job here, the claim is that the people of Israel, the Jewish people, God's chosen people, it is in the blood.
Now, I don't know about this whole magic blood thing.
I guess that was something that came up earlier.
But I mean, that's the claim, is that you're a descendant of Israel.
You are the bloodline.
So they can make this joke about the magic blood.
And look, I get it.
I was born and raised Catholic.
I'm a confirmed Catholic.
I don't view the church as representative of me anymore.
I think the Catholic Church, I think the Vatican is mostly corrupted.
There's good people.
I think Catholics are good people, just like I think Jews are good people.
But Israel, the government, the state of Israel, and the Zionists are not good people in my interpretation of their political and religious beliefs.
But that doesn't mean the average Israeli Jew is a bad person.
That doesn't mean that the average American Jew is a bad person, even if I disagree with him.
So, but isn't that the claim?
Is that by blood you're Jewish?
I'm sorry, am I missing something here?
But see, I get it.
It's like a Jewish person would argue that it's ridiculous that a man would rise from the dead.
A Jewish person would argue that it's ridiculous that transubstantiation would be a believable religious exercise.
So everybody's got their own magical beliefs and their religious systems.
But isn't that the whole argument?
Is that it's in your blood if you're Jewish?
Isn't that the whole thing?
So aren't they kind of making fun of their own belief system here?
And again, I mean, maybe there's somebody out there.
There are definitely people out there that say Israel shouldn't even exist.
The state of Israel shouldn't even exist.
Some people interpret it that Israel was never meant to be interpreted as a piece of land, but instead as a people, the actual descendants, the people, the actual bloodline, not a piece of land, but the people.
Now, land was mentioned in the Bible as well.
But again, that should all be provided for by God.
So it all comes back to the same issue here, which is why should the United States of America be forced to defend Israel?
I'm not saying Israel doesn't have the right to exist.
I don't want to deal with it.
And if you're an Israeli Jew, which most of them are not even Orthodox Jews anymore, then you would believe that God is going to provide and protect.
It's not up to me.
And I want nothing to do with it.
And this is how the average American is going to start to feel very soon.
The whole facade of our most valuable ally, this whole facade that Israel must be protected at all costs, it is falling apart at the seams, folks.
And most of that is to do with the fact that baby boomers had it so good in this country.
And that's fine for them.
Their parents earned that for them.
I don't hold some grudge against boomers because they left us with this America to fix.
That's a whole different conversation.
The point is that they had it so good that it didn't really matter to them supporting Israel because they had it so good.
We don't have that anymore.
We don't have the great economy anymore.
We can't afford houses.
Most people are in debt.
They can't afford education.
They can't afford to have a family.
So it's a different world now.
So now this idea that Israel has to be our biggest ally and we have to support it, we don't buy that anymore.
We've got our own problems now.
Israel can settle its own problems.
We don't want anything to do with it.
Not to mention, because of the dynamic nature of media now, you get to hear different opinions on the matter.
You get to get first-hand accounts from the region and then make up your own mind.
So the game has changed.
And this idea that you just have to support Israel, our greatest ally, it's over, folks.
It's done.
It's done.
It's clinging on by a thread.
It's got maybe two election cycles left.
And quite frankly, you're going to see people in conservative media completely fall off that aren't willing to address this.
And then you're basically going to have conservative American media, and then you're going to have Zionist media that will pose as conservative.
But at the end of the day, they'll always put Israel first.
And everybody's realizing this now.
This is the hottest topic right now.
And it's unfortunate because now I look at this.
Like, for example, all the pro-Israel propaganda is all attacking Muslims now.
And they're trying to reignite the fervor that Americans had against Muslims post-9-11, which hopefully people have realized now we were lied to about.
I don't know what really happened on 9-11.
The U.S. stood down.
Israel intelligence stood down.
Who really pulled it off?
Who knows?
Somebody had an inside job.
I don't know how else they would have gotten bombs inside the World Trade Center and pulled that job, but it was clearly an inside job.
100%.
All the parties and factors still remain a mystery, but that is an inside job.
We were lied to about that.
So you have all the people that are on the payroll of the Israel propaganda, which kind of works like the Democrat Party.
They have different ways of getting that money.
So it's not directly coming from Israel.
There's not directly coming from APAC, but there's different media outlets that get the funding, and then they kind of funnel it down.
And then eventually, I think it was Sarah Stock recently got offered $2,000 to support Israel at some college thing.
So they, you know, that's what they do.
So all these people posting about anti-Muslims and all these people you see posting about, you know, pro-Israel stuff, most of that is just paid for propaganda.
Because Israel is losing to support of the West.
Israel is losing support of the American people.
So that's why you keep seeing this fervor against Muslims popping back up.
That's all an Israel propaganda attempt to get you to hate Muslims so they can strike Iran and win back support of Israel.
Now, I wonder if October 7th wasn't their big event, their big false flag, to put that in permanently and move towards their plans for a greater Israel, because it's massively failed.
It's had the reverse effect.
So now it's like, do they, because a lot of people think another massive false flag is coming by Israel, but I think that was it.
I think it was October 7th.
I think that was their big plan and it just didn't work.
And so now all they have is war with Iran and trying to get the U.S. to support it.
I think that's all they have.
Now, I don't know inside Israel's politics as much, but I do know there is a large portion of Israel that does not like what Netanyahu is doing.
They think Netanyahu's aggression in the region is actually putting Israel in more danger than it ever has.
And that's totally true.
People are fleeing Israel.
Israel's economy is having problems.
Netanyahu has been focused on one thing, one thing only, and that's the Zionist expansion, taking the Gaza Strip, and he's totally failed.
So they're bombing everybody on their borders.
They're attacking everybody, and they're trying to get the American people involved in this war, and we just don't want it anymore.
But that's just crazy that the apostate prophet, I've never heard of this guy.
He literally said multiple times in the video, in the video, he says the Jews are God's special people, God's chosen people.
And then he says, I never said that.
Dude, it's in the video.
So what an absolute fraud he is.
unidentified
Not there's an ought or an ought not.
If Christians must, they have some moral obligation to support a political ideology, right?
I granted AP's definition.
I've been very charitable.
I granted his definitions.
I've granted his numbers.
I've granted everything and showed that they still don't falsify the actual position.
The reason I utilize the idea of magic Jew blood is so that he could say, yes, this is above Orthodox Christians.
Do you, ma'am, do you believe that Israel is the church?
Do you believe the church is Israel?
I don't know how that's relevant to supporting the people.
Can I answer my question?
Can you answer my question?
Can I answer my question?
It's not a question.
About supporting the life of an ethnic group.
I already did.
So that is irrelevant.
Did I answer your question?
I answered it.
Yes, I did.
Can you answer mine?
Is Israel the church?
I believe that the church that is with Christ are the branches that have been grafted on to the natural born olive tree.
AP, though, in his religious belief and in mine, we believe that the church is the Israel which is being referenced.
He believes that too.
That's part of his faith.
Hang on, hang on.
that's part of his face.
So when I'm making so when I hang on, let me finish my point.
What does not exclusively mean?
It means also, yes, I do, but.
It means, yes, I do, but a qualifier, great.
But he does.
He has to believe that.
All Christians believe that.
Can I finish this?
Let me clarify one thing here for you.
I'm not allowed to finish.
Hold on one second.
I do want to give you a question.
Stop filibustering me for sure.
Let me finish the damn point.
So anyway, back to this.
By his own faith, he believes that Israel is a new church.
Me and you are talking past each other.
Me and AP are not.
I'm falsifying his direct ideology, not trying to falsify whatever yours is.
You're making a false question.
Okay, then who's the church?
Here is the issue, Andrew.
Do you acknowledge, do you acknowledge that according to Romans 9 through 11, and according to Orthodox teachings, there are two Israels here.
One would be the natural Israel and one is the spiritual or also called the true Israel.
Do you acknowledge this?
owen shroyer
You know what bothers me?
Anybody that thinks they have it all figured out, that's what bothers me.
You don't know shit.
There's a reason it's called faith.
There's a reason it's called believing, because you don't know.
And the way you interpret the Bible might not be accurate.
That really grinds my gears.
I can't stand people that think they have it all figured out, or they think that for sure they know the interpretation of the Bible better than you.
Do you realize how many times the Bible has been translated?
Do you realize the people that have translated it might not even have interpreted it correctly?
Do you realize that the Bible has even been rewritten for political purposes?
Maybe the Bible you're reading isn't even the original book.
But no, oh, you got it all figured out.
You know what was being interpreted by God's words in the Bible, translated multiple times over thousands of years.
Okay, buddy.
Okay.
unidentified
For the gospel's sake, but still beloved by their forefathers, which Israel is this, Andrew?
So who's the...
Okay, I answered your question.
Answer that question.
Which Israel?
owen shroyer
What's your promise?
unidentified
I do.
When Paul talks about how they are enemies for the gospel's sake, but they are beloved for their forefathers' sakes, which Israel is he talking about?
Well, in this case, it'd say the natural.
Thank you.
And that's the one that this promise is about.
So hang on.
So who's the church?
Say hang on to who's the church?
owen shroyer
Israel.
unidentified
The church is Israel?
Yes.
And so when I told her that you believe that the church is Israel, I was accurate, right?
This is what Ridvin.
Just answer the question.
Yeah, but there's no relevance.
Okay, thank you.
Holy shit.
Do all of this to get the answer for me.
That's not relevant to the issue because it is talking about the natural Israel.
It is relevant.
She was not referencing natural Israel.
She clearly mentioned the natural Israel.
That's what we're talking about.
No, she, I told her.
owen shroyer
You know what I want to see?
I want to see a rise of the Orthodox Jews.
That's what I want to see.
I think the Orthodox Jews are the true religion Jews.
Not the bloodline of Israel.
I think the Orthodox Jews practice the religion, and the rest of the secular Jews are kind of like maybe modern-day Catholics that never go to church.
It's like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm Jewish, but I don't really practice Judaism.
You're either an Orthodox Jew and you practice the teaching in the Old Testament, or what are you?
unidentified
The branches of Israel.
That is literally what Paul says.
And then there are also those who he says not all are Israel.
I think Israel should be run by the Orthodox Jews.
And by the way, he is trying to make it look like this is just Orthodox theology.
It's not.
It's literally in the Bible.
Protestants teach the same thing.
Catholics teach the same thing.
Orthodox teach the same thing because it is in the Bible.
He didn't even just acknowledge.
He only just acknowledged that it might be true that Israel is also the natural Israel.
You know, the people of Israel.
owen shroyer
I just don't understand.
If you believe in the New Testament, then what are you talking about?
unidentified
It doesn't depend on me.
Your view depends on you specifically for the Christian.
So I have a brief statement and then a question.
So I'm a seminarian in the Reformed tradition.
Almost Reformed, the Reformed tradition universally rejects dispensationalism.
And many of the other sort of main Protestant groups, it's mostly Restorationists that accept that, that hold that position.
That's true.
It's small.
It's like 20% of like, yeah, it's like 20% who accepts dispensationalism.
Yeah, I was just saying that you characterized Protestants when it is not universal to Protestantism.
That's true, but look, I wasn't.
So in the 70s, the United States sent money and weapons to the Taliban in the effort to fight the Soviet Union.
Yeah.
Today, the Israeli government sends money to support dispensationalists in the U.S. Yes.
Does the U.S. support the political aims of a caliphate of the Taliban just because they send them money?
They have.
So, I mean, they actually have supported what you would consider, you know, like if we're talking about, if we're talking about al-Qaeda, things like this, the U.S. has actually supported groups like this.
I would say, though, from a Christian perspective, we would say they ought not do that, right?
They ought not do that.
That's the whole point, right?
I think you misunderstand my question.
Okay, what's the question?
owen shroyer
I didn't hear a question.
unidentified
The support of a group or organization by a government is almost not, is almost never because of some, you know, philosophical or theological alignment.
I totally agree.
It is pragmatic.
I think that your assertion that, you know, your assertion that Israel is there to bring about the Antichrist because they support ridiculous dispensationalist nonsense in the United States is a bridge too far in that they're supporting them because they bring, you know, because they support and bring people to support and positively, you know, toe the line for the Israeli state.
Then why do they say, why do they make the claim that they're essentially biblical accelerationists?
Because they're trying to get biblical accelerationists to support them.
Right.
But that doesn't mean that they're amalgamation and biblical accelerationism ends in stupidity, but and antichrist, right?
Antichrist, yeah, the end of the world.
If you believe that that eschatology is true, but if it's not, it just means ridiculous.
owen shroyer
So you're picking and choosing what part of the Bible you believe now.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
Well, there is antichrists, but.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm talking.
Yeah, I understand.
But by the same definition of antichrist, the Jewish state itself is antichrist because it's not openly supporting Christ.
The Israel, the enemies of Israel are antichrist because they are openly against Christ.
It's almost like we should not support either of them.
Wow.
Great.
Yeah.
Cool.
Let the Christians in the Middle East die.
We can support Christians in the Middle East.
We can even get Christians in the Middle East.
And we don't have to support Muslims.
owen shroyer
Hold on a second.
unidentified
Whoa.
owen shroyer
Whoa.
Oh.
Talk about a pivot.
Now it's America's duty to protect Christians in the Middle East.
From who?
From what?
From the Muslims?
What happened in Syria to the Christians?
unidentified
Who enabled that?
owen shroyer
What happened in Gaza to the Christians?
Who enabled that?
Oh, I see.
So now that you're losing support for Israel, now it's our duty to protect the Christians in the Middle East.
Even though Israel would gladly step on every single dead Christian body to resurrect the third temple.
That is hilarious.
unidentified
A Muslim country where Christians are losing their rights day by day.
You're not arguing with a Muslim dude.
Israel is the only nation that defends the rights of Christians, and you don't give a shit about them.
You're letting them die.
owen shroyer
Let me just respond.
unidentified
I got to respond to that one.
First of all, inside of Israel, right?
owen shroyer
what is it one this is crazy or under two percent of who are actually what happened to the easter worshipers in israel by the way on easter How did that go?
unidentified
We definitely can't.
By the way, hang on, by the way, by the way, can I finish, bro?
You don't want them to live there.
Why am I not allowed to finish Everlast?
Stop filibustering me, dummy.
So real quick, we can assist, we can assist Christians around the world and have tons.
We have, and so have tons of organizations which have assisted Christians around the world by not supporting Muslims or Israel.
You can do both.
It's a bifurcation to claim we must do one.
owen shroyer
Why?
unidentified
Because we have great reasons, biblical reasons, to not support a state which wants to usher an antichrist.
Which protects Christians.
And we can protect Christians too, Ridvin.
Are we doing it?
Yeah, we protect you.
No, we are not here.
We are not protecting the Christians in the Middle East.
They are dying.
Your fellow Orthodox Christians are dying.
owen shroyer
See, this is all BS.
Okay, so who protects the Muslims?
Who protects the Muslims?
Who protects the people in Beirut?
Who protects the people in Lebanon, in Syria, in Gaza?
This is all this is so stupid at this point.
This is such a dumb debate now.
unidentified
So literally working in Israel right now.
Population of Gaza, the Christian population of Gaza is believing in the world.
owen shroyer
See, none of this is godly.
None of this is godly.
I, as a Christian, believe everyone has the right to live in peace.
I as a Christian.
Believe that I, as a Christian American, believe that you have a right to exist and worship the God that you want to worship.
Now, guess what?
Not every country is like America.
Not every country believes in those freedoms.
unidentified
That's not my problem.
owen shroyer
So if you want to come to America where you can worship in peace, then that's fine with me.
But you better not bring your war and you better not bring your hatred.
And you better not expect us to buy into that and to sell that because that's what's going on now.
So I love this.
I love this back and forth like, oh, well, first it's you have to protect Israel.
No, I don't want to.
Okay, well, you have to protect the Christians in the Middle East.
No, I don't have to do that either.
It's like, what are you talking about?
How about we just stop all the wars and then everybody can live in peace and harmony?
And who's standing in the way of that?
unidentified
There's an argument that I think Josh went too far, but then the person right in front of me, so I'm going to try to formulate it this way because I agree Christians shouldn't support an ideology that may conflict with Christianity wholeheartedly.
And is growing.
But the pragmatic thing that, of course, I'll lose because I'm trying to be pragmatic.
But 30 to 36% of people in the United States are socialist, support socialism, XYZ.
The United States government has given tens upon tens of millions of dollars to socialist causes.
Therefore, should we support America because America wants to start a socialist revolution?
Well, here's the thing.
I would never make an odd claim, right, that Christians would have to support United States endeavors because it's the United States.
I would never make that odd claim.
He's making the odd claim we must support Israel because they're Jews.
That's literally his odd claim.
Two completely different paradigms.
Here's the issue, Andrew.
Here's the issue.
owen shroyer
This is all I can do in terms of response.
unidentified
I'm just like on my third reformulation, but I appreciate it, gentlemen.
Thank you so much.
We have to go to the next question because we're going to do rapid fire with these last guys.
As I wanted to come back to a question that this young man, you brought it up a couple minutes ago.
But you were saying how it's safer for Christians to live in Israel, but Israel has been killing 3% of the Christian population in Gaza recently.
You mentioned earlier in your opening argument that the idea of Zionism is to coexist with one another.
And maybe Theodore Herzl, you know, didn't understand the idea of coexistence, but there's been plenty of paramilitary groups that have been attacking during this region during the original.
You said you weren't going to reiterate propaganda, but Haji Amin was just one man.
You know who I'm referring to?
Now, here's the issue.
You are once again influenced by the propaganda, which I see, which is why I brought this up to Andrew Wilson and said that if we have a list tracked by a Christian organization, do you trust your fellow Christians?
Open Doors International is a Christian organization which tracks oppression of Christians around the world.
owen shroyer
There you go.
Oh, see, but these are Christians.
Do you trust them?
unidentified
No.
owen shroyer
Done with that argument.
No.
unidentified
Even in Israel, if it happens, Israel is not listed among the countries where there is Christian oppression.
So if people are dying in the middle of the world of a war, if people are dying in the middle of a war, then does that really mean that it is Israel that is oppressing them?
No, they are in the middle of a war.
Do you know how many Christians died in this war so far?
Why did Israel support Hamas?
What?
Why did Israel support Hamas?
Why did Israel support Hamas?
What are you talking about?
owen shroyer
They started Hamas.
unidentified
No, it's not new to me.
Israel did support the forerunners of Hamas before Hamas came into existence because they thought that this was a charity organization which they marked themselves as.
It then turned into a terrorist organization.
The only thing that happened afterwards is that the people who are in the world are not.
owen shroyer
Oh, but you're not kidding.
This isn't propaganda, though.
unidentified
He said, if Qatar wants to send funds to Hamas, I will just allow the funds to reach Hamas because this could prevent from violently attacking.
owen shroyer
All right, we're going to move on from this.
We're going to move on from this.
I've had enough of this guy with his two crucifixes, but believes Jews are the chosen people.
unidentified
Okay.
All right, buddy.
owen shroyer
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
owen shroyer
Here, let's get one more.
unidentified
Quickly to the other two gentlemen about the quickly about the other two gentlemen that talked about like if a government supports like a foreign organization, that means that they believe in what the organization is saying.
Not that we should support it, but I don't think it's fair to claim.
owen shroyer
All right.
You know what?
You're going nowhere, buddy.
We're done.
Nice try.
Nice try.
So here's my final statement on this.
Shout out to the guys at Uncensored America, by the way.
Good friends.
And they host a lot of debates.
I love political debate.
I love it.
And, you know, you have to learn this thing too.
People need to learn to not take anything personally because it's likely that the thing that you're taking personally, the source is probably retarded.
So you can never take things personally and never take yourself too seriously either, or you'll just be a total blunderfish.
So those are just words of advice.
And that's how I, I mean, I love political debate.
I fear no political debate.
But here's the problem.
Aside from however you might feel about this issue that we can't escape.
That's the problem.
We can't escape it now.
The U.S. must decouple from the Middle East.
I don't care how you feel about Israel.
I don't care how you feel about the Gaza Strip.
I don't care how you feel about Jewish people, Israeli Jews, Muslims, none of that.
I don't care.
I'm done.
I'm done with the nonstop war in the Middle East being my business.
In case you haven't learned, Jews have been at war with their neighbors since the Old Testament.
The Jews have been fighting and warring and whoring and killing and raping and pillaging and rising and falling for thousands of years with the Arabs, with the Muslims.
I want nothing to do with it.
And if you're a Christian and you believe Jesus came to save the world and to remake the church, then I don't understand why you think that you have some loyalty to Israel.
It makes no sense.
And there is no amount of stammering around through an argument that will make it make sense because it's fundamentally hyperbolic.
But again, I don't even care.
Why now?
You know what's coming now if we don't stop this?
Do you know what is coming now if we do not stop this?
Do you realize that the war in the Middle East between the Jews and Muslims is going to be in your backyard?
Have you figured that out yet?
Have you seen all the mosques going up all over?
Have you seen all the giant Islamic religious worship services going up all over?
Have you seen that?
Have you seen the anti-Muslim propaganda coming to America brought to you by Israel?
Have you seen all the protests, all the anti-Israel protests, all the pro-Palestinian protests?
Have you seen all the money pouring in from Israel?
Have you seen it?
If we do not decouple from the Middle East and we do not recognize this scourge that has plagued the Middle East for thousands of years and decouple with it and denounce it, it will destroy this country.
We will be destroyed by this same fight that Israel is so worried about being destroyed of.
I'm sick of it.
I'm not going to let my country that my ancestors built get destroyed by the same Middle East religious holy war that has forced their people to never live in peace.
Never.
And if you notice, the countries in the Middle East and North Africa that are coming out of this scourge that are Islamic, notice how they want nothing to do with it.
They'll arrest you if you have a Palestinian flag.
They probably will probably arrest you if you have an Israeli flag.
They want nothing to do with it.
See, they've transcended and they've realized it's time to put it down.
So they're not getting involved.
They'll do peace negotiations.
They'll host peace negotiations, but they're not going to support the Palestinians.
They're not going to support the Israelis.
They're done.
They've moved on.
They're now building giant metropolitan cities in what was once a desert wasteland.
They now have some of the most advanced architecture, state-of-the-art metropolitan areas because they've finally decided we're done.
We're out.
We're not dealing with them anymore.
When will the United States learn?
If we do not decouple from this thousands-years-old holy war, the war will be on our streets, folks.
unidentified
It's already here, it's already here.
owen shroyer
So if you're Jewish or you're Muslim and you come to America, then you better leave that holy war behind you.
You better leave that hatred behind you or you're just going to bring it here.
But everything you see involving that situation, it's nothing but propaganda.
it's nothing but propaganda.
So that's great.
So Christian Americans who have gone so soft, and that's what it is.
Christian Americans that have gone so soft and have let their guard down are now going to watch the United States of America fall to the same Jewish-Arab war that's been going on for thousands of years on the other side of the planet.
And you're going to sit here and watch sycophants celebrate it because they're picking a side and they've completely lost track of their own self-interest and survival instincts.
Unbelievable.
It's infuriating.
It's just completely infuriating.
All right.
Let's move on from that toxic geopolitical conflict, shall we?
Now, I got some other things going on here.
Let's see.
What do we have?
Although, I want to, let me see if I can find this one.
unidentified
Yeah, here you go.
owen shroyer
So, this is what I'm talking about.
I got bad news for most Jewish people that want to claim that you're not white.
You're majority European.
The majority of your ancestry comes from Eastern Europe.
You are not the original Semites.
There are very few pure-blooded Semites or Jews even left.
The average Palestinian, whether they be Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, has more Semitic blood than you do.
You're white.
And it's hilarious because I see videos like this all the time.
Here's a perfect example.
This is one of the funniest things.
Here's a white girl saying she's not white because she's Jewish.
unidentified
I am a Jew.
I am Jewish.
I'm a proud Jew girl.
Hi, I'm Jewish.
Nice to meet you.
owen shroyer
Yeah, nice fake blonde hair.
unidentified
And as a Jew, I've experienced anti-Semitism because I am part of a minority.
See, Judaism is an ethno-religion.
owen shroyer
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Ethno-religion?
What does that mean?
It means that even though I'm an atheist, I still consider myself Jewish because it's part of my ethnicity.
owen shroyer
Why?
unidentified
And here's an even bigger bombshell: Jews are not white.
And that might be disappointing for some.
owen shroyer
Then you're not Jewish because you're white.
Take an ancestry test.
I guarantee them to you, you're majority Eastern European.
Guarantee it.
And what is the state of Jew, by the way?
Are you an Israeli?
Are you an Israeli?
Have you ever been to Israel?
Are your parents from Israel?
What do you mean you're Jewish, but you're not Jewish?
What does that even mean?
And what do you mean you're not white, even though I'm looking right at you and you're clearly white with fake blonde hair and probably fake lashes and everything else?
Did you get a nose job too?
So, you're an atheist, but you're Jewish.
That's not how it works.
So, what are you trying to say?
That you're Israeli?
Are you trying to say that you're a semite?
Are you Middle Eastern?
What are you trying to say?
An ethno-state?
You're the only person that gets to claim an ethno-state then.
Okay.
unidentified
Some of you, because you love playing the oppression Olympics.
owen shroyer
Here you are playing the Oppression Olympics, but then saying white people want to play Oppression Olympics.
That's funny because I guess that makes you white.
unidentified
See, us Jewish people, we weren't white enough for the Nazis, but we are white enough to participate in your race politics where white people are, of course, the bad guys.
I am a Jew.
owen shroyer
Oh, you weren't wide enough for the Nazis.
What does that even mean?
What does that even mean?
you're Eastern European.
unidentified
I am a Jew and I'm not white.
owen shroyer
And even though I don't believe in God, I am a Jew and I'm superior because I believe that.
Oh, man.
So why are you wearing the Star of David then?
If you aren't religious, if you're atheist, so you're neither Jewish by religion or Jewish by ancestry.
I got bad news for you, hon. You're white.
Oh, man.
Or maybe that's good news.
I don't know.
How do you feel?
unidentified
You don't know.
owen shroyer
You just, you, you're just making your claim to fame there.
Here's what I was talking about earlier, by the way, just for a point of reference here.
Sarah Stock in college, I got offered an opportunity to bring a pro-Israel speaker to campus four times in exchange for two grand and a free trip to Israel.
Many college students take it.
It's a lot of money.
I got a similar offer with a trip to Israel.
It came from multiple parties.
The White House was also involved.
So, yeah.
But this is probably Qatar.
If you ask, you know, if you ask the pro-Israel lobby, this is Qatar.
And I love this point that they're all making now.
Qatar gives all this money to our colleges and institutions.
And I'm like, wait a second.
You mean Qatar is giving us money?
You mean we don't have to be giving Israel money?
They could be giving us money.
Where do we sign up?
Qatar's giving hundreds of millions of dollars into the U.S. Really?
This is fantastic.
How much?
Why doesn't Israel just give us a bunch of money?
Oh, wait, they do, but then you deny it.
So Israel is paying more money than all these countries combined, but you say that doesn't exist.
Then you say, Qatar is giving us all this money.
And I say, so you mean Israel could be giving us money too instead of us giving them money?
That shuts him up.
That shuts him up real quick.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
What else do we have here?
Let me find this.
There was a video.
I'm going to see if I can find it.
There was a video report that the internet went out in Canada right when they were announcing the election results.
It looks like, let me see if I can find this.
Yeah, here we go.
unidentified
Keeping a close eye on the Elections Canada website appearing to be down for some Canadians for many right now going on the website.
This is what they're seeing.
We actually experienced it here in our breaking news center as well, though we were able to get on another computer, though.
Some people taking to social media tonight, sending out tweets like this on X. Patrick saying elections.ca isn't working for me.
Does anyone else have this issue?
An obvious concern, Rachel.
Yeah, so Bashin Omar, we have reached out directly.
Yeah, one developing story, Omar, that we're keeping a close eye on.
The Elections Canada website appearing to be down for some Canadians for many right now going on the website.
This is what they're seeing.
We actually experienced it here in our breaking news center.
owen shroyer
So, what's going on?
Are they stealing this election?
Now, Trudeau, massively unpopular, but had enough political support to win.
Polyev came in and was becoming massively popular and then kind of went globalist, lost his popularity.
Then, Carney shot up to the top and looked like the for sure favorite.
Then I saw that and I was like, well, they're going to rig it for Carney anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Yeah, it looks like the liberals are going to win.
They're just now counting the votes.
The Liberals look like they're going to win.
I don't see any results anywhere.
Let me see if I can find results.
But they'll probably just rig it for Kearney.
Do they even give you guys results up there?
What goes on up there?
I don't think you guys have a hockey game tonight, do you?
There shouldn't be an excuse.
I don't think there's a hockey game on.
You guys should be able to count these elections.
The website is still down.
Wow.
The website is still down.
It looks like the liberals are winning mostly across the board, though.
But the actual website is down.
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
What are the odds of that?
unidentified
So how can they?
owen shroyer
That's crazy.
Well, they're not going to let you know.
They're just going to steal it, probably.
So, what should we do for a couple more minutes here?
Should we take calls?
Do you want me to keep?
I got more.
I got more on the whole Israel issue.
could talk about it.
You just kind of get sick of it because the content mostly just goes in the same direction.
But maybe we should just open up the phone lines.
I don't think I've opened the phone lines here in a while.
I got some other content we could get into as well.
Let's see.
Let's see if this is a hot issue.
Let's see if this is a hot issue.
All right.
Number is up: 747-255-60.
7-400, or 747-255-60.
Let's see.
Let's see what people want to talk about.
I could get into this Shannon Sarp stuff.
I see most people getting that wrong.
You know, that's kind of what I lean into these days.
Of course, who am I thinking I know everything?
I just do.
I'm just right 99.90.9% of the time, is all.
So, you know, you just kind of lean into it.
So I like to go into the direction where most people are getting things wrong.
And most people are getting the Shannon Sharp thing wrong.
It's kind of like a lot of people get the Israel thing wrong, too.
So let's take calls on this.
Remember one line, so I answer.
You're on the air.
I just ask you your name and where you're from, but we're on the air right now.
First caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Kenneth from Merfensborough, Tennessee.
owen shroyer
All right, Kenneth, let's go ahead and have a little lesson here.
Let's turn down your stream.
If you are going to call in, I just request you turn down your stream so that I can hear you.
So let's get that turned down.
unidentified
Wow.
Kenneth from Merforth, Tennessee.
All right, Kenneth.
owen shroyer
Let's go ahead and have a little lesson here.
Let's turn down your screen.
unidentified
If you are going to call in, please request me to turn down your screen so that I can hear you.
owen shroyer
and we'll get that turned out?
Horrible.
I'm hanging up on you.
I'm done.
That's why I can't do phone calls, man.
Like, what are you?
Like, are you listening on your like, what are you?
Are you on your phone?
Like, what is even going on?
How does that even like?
What is that?
Do we not know how to use phones anymore?
Maybe it's a lost art.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, I'm Dee Dee from California.
owen shroyer
What's up, Dee Dee?
You're a new caller.
unidentified
Hey.
Yes, I am.
owen shroyer
What's on your mind?
unidentified
I would like to continue the Israel subject.
owen shroyer
Okay, go ahead.
unidentified
Well, a lot of people don't realize the decidal curse that was placed upon the Jews when they employed Pontius Pilate to kill Jesus.
And there's a lot of patriots out there who are Trump supporters.
I'm a Trump supporter, huge.
And I don't think a lot of people either understand the Bible or know what's going on.
But the deicidal curse, I think a lot of people just need to look up.
owen shroyer
And what is that again?
unidentified
The deicidal curse.
owen shroyer
You're saying when the Jews crucified Jesus, do they curse themselves?
unidentified
They, well, the Jews came to Pontius Pilate.
If anybody ever went to Sunday school, did you ever go to Sunday school?
owen shroyer
Yes.
unidentified
So the Jews went to Pontius Pilate when Jesus came, you know, when God sent Jesus to earth to prophesy.
The Jews didn't like it.
And they went to Pontius Pilate and said, you know, we got to get rid of this guy, you know, just say layman terms.
And there was placed upon the Jews a deicidal curse.
And a lot of people don't know about it.
And a lot of people just need to just look it up.
Don't use Google.
You know, use any other search engine.
So when I hear people say, oh, Google this, Google that, don't Google anything.
There's a lot of other search engines.
So the decidal curse is pretty important.
And when you look it up, it's pretty distinct.
There's physical features that appear in Jews.
If you look at Ginsburg and other Jews, they start out semi-pretty.
And then as they get older, they start getting uglier and uglier.
Well, that's a curse.
owen shroyer
Are you talking about Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
unidentified
That her and others.
owen shroyer
Is this why Jewish women is this why Jewish women are always dying their hair blonde and getting nose jobs and all the cosmetic surgery?
unidentified
Possibly, yes.
I'm not accusing, but I'm just suggesting.
owen shroyer
But now, hold on a second.
But this is not, this has to be a little more complex than that.
There are, there are Messianic Jews.
There are Jews that believe in Jesus.
unidentified
I have not met one in my lifetime, and I'm 62 years old.
owen shroyer
I have.
I've met them.
unidentified
So currently, I know three right now, and they're young.
They're in their 30s.
And you can see the big nose and you can see that look in their eyes.
And you can start to see that in 10 years.
And I've known actually four more that are growing.
I hate to say it, but I'm going to say it.
They're getting uglier and uglier every year.
And they don't believe in Jesus.
They don't believe in the Bible.
It just, that's all I'm saying.
Is this deicidal curse is real.
And a lot of people don't know about it.
owen shroyer
Well, that's the first I've heard about it.
And, you know, I think maybe what you're talking about, in my opinion, is people that are just separated from God, separated from life and creation.
Thank you for the call, Dee Dee.
Because I noticed the same thing about liberals, though.
I noticed that liberals tend to get real ugly and nasty.
I don't even think it has nothing to do with their ancestry.
I mean, look at Rosie O'Donnell.
Look at Kathy Griffin.
You know, look at Dianne Feinstein.
Look at Jerry Nadler.
Look at these freaks.
So I think it's definitely something with separation from God, separation from just love and life for sure.
I do think there's something to that.
I've never heard of the deicidal curse.
So there could be a combination of factors there.
I don't know.
Is that in the Bible, though?
I've not heard of that.
I don't remember reading that in the Bible.
Let's take another caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
icarus in wisconsin
Hey, Owen.
This is Albert Nefut from Pennsylvania.
How's it going, man?
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
Fake Albert.
unidentified
Yep.
owen shroyer
Go ahead.
unidentified
Question, man.
icarus in wisconsin
Hey, check it out, man.
unidentified
I want you to go on.
icarus in wisconsin
We're going to have a little fun tonight, man.
Go on.
Go on the free agent lifestyle on YouTube real quick.
Check out Coach Greg Adams real quick.
He's live right now.
Owen.
This shit is hilarious, bro.
unidentified
Hold on a second here.
owen shroyer
You said.
icarus in wisconsin
Same me later, man.
owen shroyer
You said Coach Greg Adams.
icarus in wisconsin
Yeah, he's live right now on the free agent lifestyle.
He's talking about Chen Sharp right now.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
Oh, I see.
unidentified
He does not get charged.
The guy does not get charged.
owen shroyer
All right, we got him live right here.
unidentified
50%.
Then when they go to trial, more than 50%.
owen shroyer
All right, then I'm hanging up on you.
All right, bye.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
owen shroyer
Let's see what this is all about.
Have you ever heard of Coach Greg Adams?
I don't think I've heard of him.
unidentified
Those end up where the woman lied.
So I think it's like damn near 7% convictions on the woman that went to the police and waited to get the charge, got charged, went to trial.
It's like a 7% to 8% conviction rate.
It is a small chance that a woman could take a great sexual assault from start to finish and get the guy in prison and jail.
Okay, small.
And it's going to cost a lot of people money and a lot of heartache and pain.
And you're going to lose your job and you're going to be locked up.
And then she's going to have to deal with the reality that she didn't get justice and so forth and so on.
All right.
It is small potato.
So when people say, why don't women run to the police and follow a police report?
It's not a slam dunk.
owen shroyer
So it sounds like he's against Shannon Sharp.
unidentified
He's not a police report, but it's not a slam dunk.
It's not a slam dunk.
Sometimes if the person is a celebrity, the police will be like, oh, well, now they'll sniff it out.
She's just trying to money grab and false allegation.
We hear this shit all the time.
This is the fifth woman that came in on this nigga.
All right.
Okay, let's go to this one right here.
We're going to hear this one.
Now, this is going to scare the shit out of you.
This is a woman.
I think she's somewhere in Africa, or I'm just assuming it's Africa.
owen shroyer
No, I'm in Africa.
unidentified
I'm out.
owen shroyer
Sounds like he's against Shannon Sharp.
You know what?
Here's the deal.
I could go into the whole Shannon Sharp thing right now.
It's funny because he got warned by Monique.
He got warned by Cat Williams.
Let me do it.
I'm going all in.
I'm going all in.
Let's go to Cat Williams, warning him first to Shannon Sharp on his own show.
unidentified
I want to get with a white woman because I was scared she might have me running down the street like Jonathan.
Man, you're going to become a whole damn.
Not because I didn't like white women.
I think white women are as great as any other women.
But I'm not going to act like I'm not scared of them.
I have a reason to be scared.
You could be Kang the Conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down in two weekends.
And that's the truth.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah.
So I guess Cat Williams accurately predicted or warned Shannon Sharp.
Okay.
And then there was Monique, also on Shannon Sharp's show, warning Shannon.
Here it is.
unidentified
Because this is Mo is different now.
owen shroyer
That's the girl that's accused of you.
unidentified
It's different, baby.
I'm grateful I'm not 50.
owen shroyer
That's the girl on the screen there is the girl.
I guess she was OnlyFans.
What do they call those girls?
OnlyFans, OnlyFans.
Horse.
That was the one.
She's OnlyFans whore, I believe.
And so Shannon Sharp got in.
He got in.
He got in.
He got in deep.
And now he's in trouble with her.
He was warned by Monique.
unidentified
Six and trying.
Are you trying to say what you tried to say?
I'm looking right at you.
I ain't banging down.
You better take your ass and get somebody to love you.
Damn.
Now I'm looking right at you.
Let me tell y'all what Shannon needs.
Let me tell you what my baby needs.
He needs him an old fat dal who can bake good cakes, make some smothered turkey wings, who's going to rub his feet at the nighttime, okay?
And gonna have a sip of his cognac to make him feel better about himself when he comes home at night.
That's what Shannon needs.
You don't need no 26-year-old girl.
You don't need no 36-year-old girl.
I know.
This is your auntie talking to you.
Take your ass and get you an old bitch out there that can love you.
Oh, you're trying to hang out with these young bitches, and you can't do it, Sandy.
You just can't do it.
When they want you to go for the fourth round, you're looking at her like, bitch, listen, I need you want some money to go to Starbucks?
Yeah, because I can't go further.
But if you get your older girl, when you get to that fourth round, she's going to say, hold on, hold on.
Let me go get you some eggs and cheese and some toast with apple butter because that's going to get your energy back up.
I'm talking right to you.
Shit.
So he thought I was going to be scared.
Yes, I'm talking.
And I know old gal, she'll be good to you.
Her name is Eladora.
Now, when you know somebody named Eladora, you're old school.
Now, Miss Eladora told me to tell you.
She said, I think he likes red velvet.
owen shroyer
Oh, I do.
unidentified
I do.
I say, Miss Eladora, if you do like that, she said, You let him know I got something for him.
Yeah, I don't know.
Come on now.
owen shroyer
I knew we weren't talking about cake.
Damn it.
So he was warned.
Now, I don't know if I'll know if I want to take the time to try to pull up the phone call.
But it looks like this is a shakedown.
It looks like Shannon is getting shaken down.
And I see conservatives jumping on here because I guess jumping on Shannon because I guess he's not a conservative.
I guess he's a liberal or maybe he said something bad about Trump.
And so, you know, people in politics tend to exist in their own lane.
I've transcended lanes.
I've transcended boxes.
I've transcended political ideologies.
I remain logically consistent, reasonable, and I can make up my own mind based off of logic and reasoning.
So a lot of conservatives can't do that.
They're stuck in the conservative lane.
And if one person says one thing liberal or negative about Trump, they can't get out of it.
No, Shannon Sharp's bad, and so they're celebrating it.
No, it's pretty clear to me, Shannon was set up.
Now, the one thing that's curious is he did offer this girl a settlement.
Now, I'm not saying that proves anything because sometimes it's worth the settlement for these men to just shut him up and make the bitch go away, even if they're totally innocent.
But there's these phone calls that got released, of course, by the woman.
She's released phone calls and text messages, all to make Shannon look bad.
And you can see anybody who's being discerning can listen to this tape and see how she edited out of context.
I got to find the tape.
Because it's again, I tend now, if I'm going to lean into anything, I lean in where I see people getting it wrong.
Otherwise, I just like to deliver news.
Hold on.
I think that Shannon Sharp.
Yeah, so Shannon Sharp has said bad things about Trump.
And so, you know, liberals or liberals or conservatives are jumping on him like, you know, he's another Trump-hating liberal.
Well, that doesn't, that doesn't change the fact he can be innocent and be set up and shaken down.
So we're not going to support that.
I don't care if Shannon Sharp hates white people.
I don't care if Shannon Sharp hates Donald Trump.
don't give a damn what Shannon Sharp is into politically or personally.
An innocent man does not deserve to suffer.
Now, I would say he might be guilty of something, not necessarily a crime.
He might be guilty of something that makes him feel like he needs to offer a settlement or try to keep this out of the courtroom.
But when the woman is releasing edited audio and text messages to make him look bad, to me, this is a setup and a shakedown.
And I believe I have the audio here that I'm talking about.
But this is so clearly edited out of context.
And I think, I think, to me, makes Shannon looks innocent, in my opinion.
unidentified
I don't know.
Anything I say, you're just going to get mad at and you're just going to hang up on me.
So I feel like.
owen shroyer
By the way, here's the context that she cuts out.
So I guess Shannon is coming into town wherever she lives and he's like, I'm going to take you out.
We're going on a date.
I've got this thing we're going to.
And I guess she doesn't want to go.
And so he says something, well, I'm going to come choke you then.
Like a joke, which she kind of makes reference to later, but she edits all of that out so that you only hear this part.
unidentified
I'm not going to angle for you.
What does that even mean?
You want to be a dick to me now.
I don't want to be.
Don't manipulate me.
Oh, no, that mercy.
If you said that one one more time, I'm going to fucking choke the shit out of you when I see you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Well...
I don't...
It all works.
Oh, I don't want to be choked.
Yes, you do.
I don't think you have a choice in the matter.
owen shroyer
That's not even the one I was referencing, but that's another one.
She later makes a joke like, well, that wouldn't be a good look.
And he laughs and he says, yeah, big black man chokes out small white woman.
Yeah, probably not a good look.
And then they both laugh.
So it's pretty clear that they've already had relations.
And I'd say it's pretty likely that he has maybe even choked her during said relations.
There's text messages that have gone around that apparently these people are into eating ass.
Go figure that.
But she's recording him.
So she already had some sort of a motive to record them, even though they're apparently in a relationship of some sort.
So what's with the recording?
There's some sort of motive there for the recording.
But she wouldn't take the settlement.
Now Shannon Sharp has said he's walking away from his show until the football season.
Now, here's what's going to be interesting.
It's unlikely he has any conversations recorded like she does.
So now, and it really could go either way because the jury could say, well, we want the full recordings.
And she'll either say no.
And if she refuses to turn over the full recordings, then they might strike it from the record.
Or they'll look at it as intentionally deceiving the edited of these calls as intentionally deceiving.
And so that could actually hurt her case.
But why would she reject $10 million?
That's the strange thing, unless she has something else.
Now, the messages, the text messages that she's released make Shannon look bad.
Now, he will have the text messages.
Now, he's not releasing anything for obvious reasons.
He's going to wait and see what goes on.
And if this gets to a courtroom, then he'll present all of his evidence in defense.
But he's not going to do that until it gets to that point, obviously.
I think it's a shakedown.
I think it's a setup.
And I don't like, I don't like whether, it doesn't matter what Shannon Sharp's politics are.
I don't care if you don't like his politics.
I don't care if you don't like him because he's black.
I don't care about all this other stuff.
I do not care.
I stand for truth.
And I don't care if the innocent man hates me or likes me.
If he's an innocent man, then he doesn't deserve to suffer.
And this looks like a shakedown.
And it looks like this woman is trying to take Shannon Sharp's fortune.
And I don't like that.
I don't support that.
And I see a ton of conservatives jumping on this, let's bury Shannon Sharp.
I'm not into that.
unidentified
I don't like that at all.
owen shroyer
Now, it's funny.
I see a lot of commentary like this.
Do you want to know why Shannon Sharp?
It's not just about money.
You know, obviously women like money and they like rich men.
So, I mean, it's not like that's some breaking news.
I don't think women are evil for that.
It's fine.
Women are attracted to resources.
It's well studied.
It's taught in college psychology.
The number one thing women are attracted to, it's not shape.
It's not height.
It's not eye color, hair color, skin.
It's none of that.
It's literally resources, aka money.
But it doesn't have to be money.
It's just resources.
And that's fine.
It's their survival instinct.
It's in their biology.
They want to know they can be taken care of.
They want to know their offspring can be taken care of.
There's nothing wrong with that.
It's totally normal, actually.
Completely understandable for women to be attracted to resources more than anything else.
Now, because of that, they can get a little wild.
It's kind of like you'll see men that go crazy for women and do stupid things for women.
Women will do crazy, stupid things for resources.
Why do you think there's so many girls on OnlyFans?
But, you know, I always see this commentary about the dating world and how hard it is for women and everything else.
And oh, you know, there's basic sciences to all of this, and everybody seems to miss it.
So here's, here's, I'm going to play this video too: Billy Ray Brandt, who I think does like social commentary like this in the dating world.
I've seen her stuff before pop up.
But again, this is one of those things I see most people just get it totally wrong.
So I'm just going to start to lean into that stuff more often.
But so this girl says, I feel like a lot of women are looking for someone who doesn't watch cartoons, has a job, a car, and isn't addicted to porn.
The bar is in hell.
Well, I think that women reach a certain point in their lives where they realize the propaganda has lied to them and set them up for failure.
Like, there is no Prince Charming to come rescue you or sweep you off your feet.
You know, I was once a big believer in love when I was younger.
Some of that is starting to fade.
I got to be honest.
And it's not that I don't think love is the most powerful thing on earth.
I just feel like there are very few that can actually capture that and turn it into something more.
And really, when it comes to relationships, you have to be pragmatic and you have to be smart and maybe learn to love.
Because there's no doubt, you know, the whole idea, the whole concept of love at first sight, there's something there, whether you want to call it love or not.
But there is love.
And I would reason that with every person you're with or with every person you've loved, you kind of gain this tolerance to it.
And so it becomes harder and harder to recapture that feeling the older you get.
But I think women are chasing either this concept of love that they've been sold, which is almost impossible.
It's so rare to find.
And then, or they're just chasing money and resources.
But if you're a man, like she says, and you're an attractive man and you don't have these character flaws like not having a job or being resourceful on your own merit or being addicted to porn, then usually for a guy like that, he can date any woman he wants.
So he doesn't need to be in love and he doesn't need you.
And so I think that's another problem that women are facing is that the men that women want to date, there's so little of them, and yet there's so many women that want to date them that they don't really have to, they don't have to settle down.
They don't have to get married.
And so then these women end up getting bitter towards men and blaming men when men are just pragmatic creatures at the end of the day.
So the truth is, and I'm not saying women need to compromise.
I'm saying if you're a woman and you're looking for marriage and a long-term relationship, then yeah, you're going to have to lower your bar.
Or you're going to be in your 30s saying, where are all the good men?
And all the good men are either married or they're just not interested in getting married because they don't need to get married.
They can get married whenever they want.
And they can just date whoever they want.
And the same thing goes, I think, for the women too, but they kind of take it a different direction and end up just either profiting off of their looks or just dating as many men to entertain themselves as they can until they realize, you know, now it's time to settle down.
And by then, those men are dating other women.
What does she say here?
Women, you need to settle.
What is she talking about?
Let me get her.
unidentified
And it goes really well.
My favorite part about dating is when you go on a first date and it goes really well.
So you go on a second date and that goes really well.
And then you go on a third date, which goes really well.
And then you find out that they're looking for something long-term, which makes you like them more.
So then you go on a fourth date and it goes really well.
But then you find out that they want to be single for longer and then you just never talk again.
This is the result of telling every woman not to settle.
It's an idea that sounds empowering, but it's actually a trap.
Women are so obsessed with not settling that they're not choosing anything.
The whole don't settle mantra has turned into a permanent state of hesitation.
And this is why women in their 30s are now having children more than women in their 20s, which is causing birth rates to porn.
Women have been sold a lie and they're never going to find love if they're constantly waiting for the next best option.
The longer you chase perfect, the longer you end up alone.
Cognac, espresso, martini.
owen shroyer
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
Men can afford to do that.
Women can't.
That's just the truth.
But that culture is being pushed on women more than it is for men.
The average man that's dating will want a long-term relationship.
But it's the top 1% of men that are dating that just want to date or just want to have fun.
But I think it's the same for both.
Women and men are now both kind of taught like, oh, it's the next best thing.
It's the next best thing.
It's the next best thing.
And then there is no next best thing for the women.
For the man, there always might be a next best thing.
But for the women, it's not, the timetable is totally different for multiple biological reasons.
Attractiveness, fertility.
Men don't have that problem.
Not to mention the new date culture with like dating apps and everything.
But you know, I say, because I'm just to a point now, it's like, if you have time to date, then good for you.
If you have time to date, good for you.
And I used to date out of convenience, and that didn't really work out for me either, unfortunately.
So now I just don't pretty much don't date at all.
And that's fine.
I'm married to my craft.
I'm married to the Infowar.
Although I might be a widow soon.
But that's a different story.
I'm not really concerned about the whole birth rate thing either.
I'm really not.
I will say white people are going extinct, though.
do think that's true all right let's take another call I got the number up.
Next caller, it's just the caller to know how to work a phone.
All right, next caller.
What's your name where you're from?
Yes, are you there?
Hello?
No.
See, I'm cursed.
The phone line is cursed tonight.
I can already tell.
The phone line is just cursed tonight.
I'm getting killed on the lines.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
bart in georgia
Hey, Owen, this is Bart Bonn, Georgia.
How are you?
owen shroyer
Bart always knows how to use the phone, and he's so loud that you will hear him.
bart in georgia
Hey, you know what?
This Shannon Sharp thing reminds me of when this hooker, she went into KFC and paid for a meal.
And the cashier says, ma'am, these bills are counterfeit.
She says, call 911.
I've been raped.
owen shroyer
I don't.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
Is that a George Floyd joke?
bart in georgia
No, see, the hooker went in the KFC.
She paid for a meal.
The cashier said, Ma'am, these bills are counterfeit.
She said, call 911.
I've been raped.
owen shroyer
Oh, I see.
So he paid her off with fake money.
So then she accused him.
bart in georgia
Right, exactly.
owen shroyer
Okay.
All right.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
Maybe work on it a little.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified
Owen Schrewer.
I'm Daniel from Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
Just tuning in to say what a pathetic amount of Canadians we have here who voted liberal.
owen shroyer
What the hell's going on up there?
What the hell's going on?
Give us an update.
I'm out.
I'm blacked out.
unidentified
Yeah, so apparently it's looking like we lost to the Libtards, but yeah, it's an utter embarrassment.
And now I really do hope Trump buys us out and we become the 51st state.
owen shroyer
But what are we going to do?
All right.
If Canada becomes the 51st state, what do we do with all the provinces?
unidentified
Honestly, Owen, I don't know what to say, man, but I want to say thank you to you for what you're doing.
And I'm just kind of just pissed off right now at the outcome of this election.
So I'm going to let you go.
But cheers to you and fuck these stupid liberals.
That's all I got to say, brother.
Who cares?
owen shroyer
Why won't Wayne Gretzky run?
Wayne Gretzky needs to run.
Wayne Gretzky is the only man that can save Canada.
I might support Braden Shen if he can get another cup in St. Louis.
Wayne Gretzky, I think, is the only man that can save Canada.
He's a Trump supporter, by the way.
They play golf together.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
unidentified
Hello?
owen shroyer
Yes, hi.
unidentified
Hey, this is Bo Lyle from Texas.
owen shroyer
You said Bo?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
owen shroyer
All right, Bo, what's up?
unidentified
I wonder what your opinion on Nick Fuentez is.
I watch him a lot, but I wonder what you think about him.
owen shroyer
I like Nick.
I've met him numerous times.
I like him as a person.
I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but I like him.
unidentified
On his last podcast, people were thinking he's like a Fed.
Do you think he's a Fed?
owen shroyer
No, I don't get any Fed vibes from Nick, and I've been around plenty of feds.
You know, I think people are suspicious because of the January 6th thing, and rightfully so, how he avoided any arrests for that.
But you'd have to ask him that.
That's not, I don't know.
He doesn't give me any Fed vibes.
He's never done anything in the sphere of, let's say, social activities when I've been around him that puts off any Fed vibes or Fed activities.
So, no, I don't have any reason to think that.
unidentified
I got one more question.
I've been following for a little bit.
What's with Pam Bondi?
I don't see why y'all don't like her.
I see y'all criticize her a whole bunch, but I couldn't.
I don't understand y'all.
You, particularly, on the InfoWars, and I kind of hear y'all kind of digging after her.
What has she done that y'all don't like?
owen shroyer
Okay.
First of all, I've also met Pam Bondi, and I do like her.
I also think she's a nice person.
She's an abysmal failure as the attorney general.
Let me put the question back to you.
You ask me, what has she done?
Let me ask you, what has she done?
unidentified
Oh, no, I'm not saying you're wrong.
I just didn't understand.
I've been kind of last two weeks when I'm on X. So, so, okay, so, so, so let's play the game.
owen shroyer
I'm gonna, I'm gonna play the game with you.
What has she done?
unidentified
Well, some disappointing things, like with the Esting files, you know, I saw that, and uh, that Goreno guy, they said they're going to release them, and of course, you know, nothing ever comes of it.
But y'all were just saying, you know, I guess so.
I just thought she did one particular thing that y'all were kind of disagreeing with, or you were disagreeing with.
owen shroyer
Well, I do disagree.
I do disagree with her prioritization at the Department of Justice to go after college protesters.
I do disagree with that.
But most of it is that she's not doing what needs to be done.
Now, she has the chance.
I mean, look, her reputation is in her own hands.
I think she just wants to be on Fox News next year and not the attorney general.
Time will tell.
unidentified
So, if not her, who do you think would be a good choice to be the Attorney General?
owen shroyer
Yeah, that's a great question.
I'd like to see Ken Paxton, but he's going to be doing his Senate run now.
So, I don't think that's going to be happening.
Andrew, Andrew Bailey out of Missouri, potentially, he's got a good track record.
If he wanted to run, he's got things that he'd have to get taken care of as well.
unidentified
I've seen, I forget the guy's name.
So, another question.
What do you think about Trump saying he's going to do a third term?
I forget the gentleman that was one of his advisors, and he was talking to what's that guy Bannon?
Yeah, Steve Bannon.
He's saying they're going to do it.
They're interpreting it like this.
And he's like, dude, look at this right here.
These 10 words say you can't do a third term.
What do you think about that?
owen shroyer
So it looks like the loophole around that is because the Democrats ran a fake impeachment scam.
I don't know the exact text of it, but basically there's some weird out where if you get impeached illegitimately, then you can run.
You basically become eligible again because they void your term when you were impeached.
But I don't think that will, I do, I do not think that will come into play.
I mean, they could try to impeach him again.
So I don't think that loophole works.
I think the only way they could do it is Trump would have to be the vice president, and then the president would either have to step down or, you know, God forbid the worst happens.
I don't think it's going to happen.
I think the whole Trump 2028 thing is a troll.
I don't think Donald Trump wants to do four more years.
He wants to live the rest of his life out with his family.
One of his sons might have political aspirations, but I don't think Trump wants a third term.
unidentified
Well, okay, Owen.
I appreciate everything.
I'll be listening to you.
I've been a huge Alex Jones and Owen Shore fan.
So I'll keep listening to you.
owen shroyer
Thank you, Bo.
Next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
icarus in wisconsin
Hello.
owen shroyer
Hi.
unidentified
Hey, how you doing?
max in wisconsin
Flatliner from Wisconsin.
icarus in wisconsin
How are you doing, bigo?
owen shroyer
All right, Flatliner.
What's going on?
max in wisconsin
Yeah, you had the caller talking about the curse earlier, and I think that's true.
icarus in wisconsin
It's been mentioned before, and it was also rumored that there was not only the curse for murdering Jesus, obviously, you know, got son, but even like the gypsies got cursed because apparently they made the nails that crucified Jesus.
They had trouble finding the nails.
owen shroyer
Wait, wait, wait.
What gypsies?
The European gypsies?
icarus in wisconsin
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
max in wisconsin
Yes, and that's why they're cursed even to this day.
owen shroyer
But see, but see, that's interesting.
And this is, look, people don't like to talk about it, but a lot of the modern-day Jews are just Eastern European gypsies that went into Israel, modern day Israel.
icarus in wisconsin
Yeah, and I've talked to you about energy.
You know, people will believe in Wi-Fi and radio signals and all that stuff, the internet.
But then you start talking about different types of energies, like a curse or ether stuff or metaphysical stuff, and people just talk about that being hooboo jooboo.
But you see, even when we've spoken before about Barron's Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey, which was a spin-off, I don't know if you know this of Alice in Wonderland.
It was written during the same time.
owen shroyer
Wait a second.
Is that true?
I thought Baron's by Under Soul Lockwood.
I thought that was written before Alice in Wonderland.
icarus in wisconsin
No, it was during that craze.
And Donald Trump's character in it, Donald Trump's character in it, whose name is Don, who guides Barron.
His last name's ridiculous.
I like you to pronounce it.
I'm not going to try to.
owen shroyer
Should I go grab the book?
I have the book.
Should I go grab it?
max in wisconsin
You should, and you should read some of it on air because it's very precious.
owen shroyer
Do you have like a page you want me to read?
max in wisconsin
You should actually look into the things that Don talks about.
owen shroyer
Do you want to carry the show for two minutes while I go grab this book?
Sure.
Let's see what you can do.
I'll be right back.
I'm going to grab this book.
icarus in wisconsin
All right.
max in wisconsin
Go get go get the book.
Owen's a great guy.
icarus in wisconsin
He'll be right back, everybody.
So, yeah, so there was this book written, and it was during the Alice in Wonderland craze.
And the white rabbit character mirrored in this book about a character named Baron Trump and his marvelous underground journey, as we've seen with the pyramids, lots of stuff going underground.
max in wisconsin
Donald's character is the white rabbit.
icarus in wisconsin
So I thought that was kind of an interesting link and connection there.
And, you know, people would always think that like time travel is not real, but as expected, it's recently come out with the government officials talking about quantum entanglement and time travel, which, you know, I was thinking kind of begs the question: like,
should priority one as Christians be to use the time travel technology to save Jesus and bring him back to modern time and create the second coming or save Jesus and reset the timeline?
Imagine if Jesus would have been alive.
owen shroyer
I'm back with you.
icarus in wisconsin
Okay, you're back, Owen.
owen shroyer
I've actually got three Ingersoll Lockwood books, and each one of them has very cryptic, basically future sight.
That was 1900 or The Last President.
A lot of things you could interpret of what we're experiencing with President Trump now.
I think this one was just one I liked reading, actually.
I don't remember if there was any cryptic future site in this one.
Washington, a heroic drama of the revolution in five acts.
I think that's just one I wanted to read, actually.
Now that I'm thinking about it.
And then the one that is the craziest: Travels and Adventures of Little Baron Trump and his wonderful dog, Bulger.
And that's the one that has the most future sight in it, which is just insane.
max in wisconsin
Yeah, yeah.
icarus in wisconsin
And like you saw that recent statement by government officials talking about time travel being real, right?
owen shroyer
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
icarus in wisconsin
Yeah.
max in wisconsin
And like, you know, if Trump is maybe getting that time travel technology has access to it or has someone maybe he knows has access to it.
You could get information like the Vatican does with like being able to see past history events.
unidentified
And that's if you believe that.
owen shroyer
Do you believe that?
max in wisconsin
Yeah, I do.
I think that tech is not only in existence, but I think people can do that with their minds alone.
Like that one Robert Redford movie.
Did you ever see that movie, Owen?
owen shroyer
What movie?
max in wisconsin
Gosh, I forgot his name.
It's an old one.
He's like looking at this hot chick in a hotel picture.
It's like an old hotel.
And she's like a smokeshow.
And he just keeps like obsessing over this chick.
And he then, like, with his mind, then just wakes up back in time with this chick.
And anybody, anybody in the chat with this technology?
owen shroyer
Anybody in the chat help us out here?
I'm going to see if anybody can name that film.
I just don't, I could look it up, but let's see if anybody in the chat will chat trivia here.
You know, I think that whatever.
max in wisconsin
I think it's real.
owen shroyer
The divine creation that we're in has so many secrets.
And I'm not saying time travel isn't impossible.
I don't think I would put it to you this way: I don't think you can travel through time in like some plane, like where you would travel from point A to point B. Is it called somewhere in time, by the way?
max in wisconsin
Yeah, I think that's it.
owen shroyer
That's what they're saying.
max in wisconsin
But I think they can fax people how advanced the technology is.
Like, remember that article?
Remember David Knight, David Knight show?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
max in wisconsin
A long time ago.
He had during his time, he was talking about this news story out of England, Heathrow Airport, where at the same time, there were like two video files saved of two different Russians at the same time in the same place.
Like they showed, released their pictures.
And it was like a ha-ha joke.
So I don't even, I think even more groups than just the U.S. and Russia have access to this technology.
owen shroyer
And I think it existed in the Nazi technology that they claimed they could alter space and time.
I think one of them was called the Bell.
max in wisconsin
Yep.
owen shroyer
Who knows what type of technology, Nikola Tesla?
Who knows what other type of technology that we may have now that we're not told about?
I think that you, I don't think time travel is something that happens like linearly or like in an instant.
It's like you can travel through time, but you have to start from the beginning.
Does that make sense?
max in wisconsin
It does, but I'm sorry to tell you that you're wrong because you look at it like, think about when you die, which is kind of hard to think about.
But when you're dying, you're with God and you're beyond life, you're without time.
There is no time there.
So there's even like, you know, people talk about time is like something that not only can be controlled in the spiritual realm and in this realm, but you know, there's also reality.
I think they have even weapons like you see with CERN that is messing and fucking with reality, which is crazy, you know, and that's why all this weird shit we got to deal with day and out driving us bonkers and why you don't want to go get laid.
You should be going to get laid.
Oh, you need to get laid, man.
You got to drain that poison, man.
You're going to go crazy.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
You were saying you didn't, you weren't going out and dating.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but you said I need to drain the poison.
What is that?
max in wisconsin
Oh, yeah.
If that builds up and you see all these trainings going crazy, that's from I disagree.
owen shroyer
I know, I think you're wrong.
I think building it up is powerful.
In fact, it's you can harness it.
unidentified
I think it's total power in the body.
max in wisconsin
It lasts about 70 days in the body, then the sperm cells die and you absorb it.
But you got to wait like that 70 days.
owen shroyer
70 days?
max in wisconsin
Yeah.
Can you believe that?
owen shroyer
Interesting.
max in wisconsin
Five days, five days if you deposit it in someone, but 70 days within you.
owen shroyer
So you're saying, so you're saying, you're saying that you can only harness the power of what do we want to call it?
max in wisconsin
Testosterone, this testosterone in the sperm cells.
owen shroyer
It's more than testosterone, but it's more than testosterone.
If you can, I think it's kind of like, you know, people obsess, there's this whole, there's this whole obsession with cold plunging.
Have you seen this?
max in wisconsin
Yeah, I hate it.
owen shroyer
I think it's bullshit, to be honest.
I think it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard of.
And there might be some science that proves it has benefits.
There might be some science that proves it has benefits.
I did the cold plunge, and it was like my body rejected it so intensely that when I finished it, I was like, why would I ever do that?
Why would I, why would I torture my body?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
So I did the cold plunge once.
I don't think I'll ever do it again.
I mean, the only time I could see doing it is if I had a lower body injury that was like swelling and I wanted to reduce the swelling, then I could think about it.
But I hated it.
I thought it was miserable.
I never want to do it again.
I'll sit in a sauna 120, 130 degrees, or I guess really about 200 degrees, actually.
I'll sit in a sauna 200 degrees and I'll love that.
That is, I like that, but the cold plunge was like hell.
unidentified
I was like, oh, no.
icarus in wisconsin
Yeah, it's bad for the boys down there.
It's bad for sperm counts, you know, tight underwear, they say.
But like, as far as draining the poison, increasing testosterone.
owen shroyer
So the point I was making is having sex increase.
icarus in wisconsin
I got testosterone.
owen shroyer
I got lost.
I think, you know, people talk about the, I think the thing about cold plunge is it trains your mind more than anything.
Like, can you endure?
Like, can you separate your mind from your body?
Can you take control of all your visceral reaction, bodily instincts, and exist only in your mind so that you can actually do a cold plunge?
And I think that there's a level of that that goes into with, you know, not having an orgasm for a man.
I think that it's mastering that sexual energy.
It's mastering those temptations, those desires, maybe even those needs, and then harnessing it.
max in wisconsin
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
But, you know, also like, you know, you dump into a girl and then dump like three more times.
icarus in wisconsin
That takes a lot of willpower too, or go like four hours.
max in wisconsin
You know, like, but the cold plunge thing is all willpower.
icarus in wisconsin
Willpower is huge.
max in wisconsin
You know, Spinoza, the philosopher, talks about that.
icarus in wisconsin
But you have the Baron Trumper book.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
What do you want me to read?
I got it right here.
max in wisconsin
Try to find Don's last name and read it out on air if you could.
owen shroyer
How am I going to do that?
This is like a 300-page book.
max in wisconsin
I can find you the page number.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
max in wisconsin
I have it saved because I recently looked it up.
owen shroyer
It's highly doubtful that we have the same comment.
icarus in wisconsin
He shows up throughout the whole book and it's like the Donald Trump character.
owen shroyer
Is it Prince?
icarus in wisconsin
Oh, and he talks about the most modern shit you can imagine.
owen shroyer
Is it kangaroo?
icarus in wisconsin
Rich people and technology and the importance of freedom, like all stuff that's relevant.
owen shroyer
I know.
I read the book.
I was mind-blown.
Is it Kangaroo?
I can't remember now.
unidentified
I don't know.
owen shroyer
Read it after I read it after it all went viral in, I think, 2016.
icarus in wisconsin
A long time ago.
max in wisconsin
Yeah, that was a big craze.
icarus in wisconsin
And then the problem was that, like, the whole Q movement kind of sidetracked all that.
owen shroyer
I think it was originally in the original Q stuff.
Yeah, this is going to take forever.
And of course, they were German too.
Trump's German.
unidentified
Yeah, there's no way.
no i got it here i'm like i'm like salad Remember how you were in 2016?
icarus in wisconsin
How far how far it's changed now?
Like with Epstein.
I never thought that would be as far it is now with Epstein.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and we've moved the ball so far down the field that.
icarus in wisconsin
Oh, okay.
Here it is.
Don Fum.
Don Fum, D-O-N-F-U-M.
But the full name, I'm going to try real hard at this, Owen, is Don Constantino Bartolomeu, Strepfafola, Fidjaduana, Taranis, Fum.
owen shroyer
What page?
icarus in wisconsin
And his role in the story is he's like a pivotal to Baron Trump's journey because he's like the author of the manuscript that describes the world within a world.
And the manuscript sparks Baron Trump's interest in exploring the subterranean realms.
And I don't know, like the manuscript is interesting too, because that's like the whole function of the story.
The manuscript, the manuscript titled The World Within a World.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you this: for a kid's book, it certainly was supposedly a children's book.
It certainly is intriguing for any adult readers.
icarus in wisconsin
Talks about digital vanity, economic divides, environmental blindness, political absurdity, technology without soul, cultural echo chambers, and education for wisdom.
Like, I don't know.
It was just weird that a book too many coincidences.
max in wisconsin
And at a certain point, it gets a little stinky for me.
icarus in wisconsin
What do you think, Owen?
max in wisconsin
How much do you think coincidences and how much you believe in fate?
owen shroyer
I'm glad you got in tonight, and I'm going to finish the show with this.
I think this.
No, I don't think this.
I know this.
We are in such a divine creation that our minds can barely even comprehend.
The third-dimensional earth physical plane and realm that we exist in is one of many.
Most experts agree that there's either nine, maybe seven dimensions that all unfold from the original dimension, the baseline, the code that keeps everything held together, the vibrations, the frequencies.
A lot of people believe, and maybe myself included, quite frankly, that when you tap into the potentials of DMT, it's the only way to access these other dimensions.
You have to literally alter your brain chemistry in order to access these dimensions.
Now, the most hardcore version of it would be different ayahuasca ceremonies that you can do in like the Amazon rainforest.
The cheap shortcut to it is like the DMT5 and the stuff you can just basically smoke and just get like a five-minute launch, a five-minute download.
But that's mostly ineffective because it's so limited.
But the ayahuasca is so intense that it's almost impossible for the average person to even handle it.
So, so you go into that and you're basically just trying to survive, and your mind is not even strong enough to realize what it is that you're going through.
But you can certainly tap into the dimensions.
And by the way, the U.S. government knows this.
And they've been trying to map out these dimensions by getting people into with the pure DMT Because it's like a phase.
It's like a roller coaster.
But you just go straight up and then you come down.
So it's like, how do you how do you manage at a certain point where you're actually getting the vision and you're actually getting the download from whatever dimension it is that you're trying to tap into?
It's like, do you want to tap into the dimension that shows you like the code of life that shows you the code of God's creation?
Do you want to tap into the upper layer of that that shows you the different connection vectors?
Then there's the third dimension and then there's the fourth dimension and up, which you really can't even recognize.
You can't even like, you're not even meant to be there.
But it's like, if you can find a way to just stabilize that and stay there, and if you can get used to it and map it out, that's what they're trying to do.
That's what the U.S. government is trying to do.
And I got all these books, too.
I went and grabbed these.
I got all these books, people bringing up astral projection.
The government has done so much stuff.
The government has basically proven the power of the mind.
They've proven the power of astral projection.
They've proven the power that I mean, you have more powers available to you.
I mean, my theory is all we're doing, whether by design or just survival, all humans are doing are trying to recreate everything we lost.
We're trying to recreate what was lost in the pyramids of Egypt and the times of the ancient societies and civilizations that built the megaliths that we have no scientific explanation for.
And all we're trying to do is retap into that, but we can't internalize it, so we externalize it.
So what do we do?
So we build airplanes, we build cars, we build satellites, we build all these things in the third dimension because it's the only way we can recapture all of the abilities that we used to have.
All this technology is going to lead us to the singularity, a synthetic singularity, when we actually have an organic singularity already inside of us.
We're already in the singularity.
We're in God's singularity.
We're already all connected through the divine singularity, but it's God's.
It's the creators.
It's constant.
It's always there.
You're always a part of it.
You can't separate from it.
The seen and the unseen.
But yet we're like so dumbed down and so atrophied in our spirit, in our soul, that the only way we can reconnect to the singularity is to build the synthetic singularity, to build the fake singularity.
And I guess that's, you know, that's Satan.
That's the Antichrist, you could say, the mark of the beast.
But that's kind of me just theorizing here off the deep end.
But I don't know.
They keep all this stuff secret from us.
What do they really know?
What do they really know about the power of the mind?
What do they really know about the parts of our brain that we don't use anymore?
What do they really know about the history of humans or other things for that matter on this earth?
All right.
That's pretty heavy, isn't it?
That's pretty heavy.
All right, we're going to close it out.
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All right.
Another fateful day in the Info War.
Tomorrow, I'll be live in the InfoWar studios.
Hopefully not for the last time, but we will be there.
We will be there breaking all the news.
Of course, Harrison Smith in the morning, Alex Jones at 11 Central.
And then I close it out 3 to 6 p.m. Central Weekdays.
So, looking forward, hoping that we see you tomorrow at InfoWars for who knows how many more days.
Who knows how many more days God will give us to continue on in the InfoWar, but we will be there tomorrow, rest assured.
So, that does it for tonight.
We finish it off.
We're going to go back to Insefirum, Windrider.
Peace and love.
Godspeed.
I'll see you tomorrow night.
unidentified
Memories of his life.
As the fire starts dancing dolefully, you can turn away to survive.
Drag in a maze now, get away.
What's the beauty game now?
Just the other fields.
Lost your way.
There's no place for him in this world.
No lies.
My home is hate and break.
You know his game is mine.
With the rider, since we're with wrenches on his mind.
Tell us what the friends and sky fly away.
With riders waiting for the final day.
When you'll be home, this is comfortable.
My soul.
He has presented to save the line.
Walking past up the mountain beat.
It makes sense forgetting wave.
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