Dec. 10, 2024 - Owen Shroyer Live
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| What's up, ladies and gentlemen? | ||
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Owen Schroer live. | |
| Episode 90. | ||
| Tonight we are going to play in its entirety with commentary, the NBC News interview, Kristen Welker interviews, Donald Trump. | ||
| I want to play this whole thing. | ||
| I want you to watch it with me. | ||
| And I'll be doing commentary throughout as well. | ||
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| And so without waiting any longer, let's dive into Donald Trump with Kristen Welker on Meet the Press. | ||
| President-elect Donald Trump, welcome back to Meet the Press. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you so much for being here. | ||
| You are the first president since Grover Cleveland to win non-consecutive terms. | ||
| Republicans now have control of the House and the Senate. | ||
| What do you plan to accomplish in your first 100 days in office? | ||
| Well, we're going to do something with the border and very strong, very powerful. | ||
| That'll be our first signal and the first signal to America that we're not playing games. | ||
| We have people coming in by the millions, as you know. | ||
| A lot of people shouldn't be here. | ||
| Most of them shouldn't be here. | ||
| First sign, we're not playing games. | ||
| We're not going to come into our country. | ||
| We have mental institutions from all over the world being emptied into our country. | ||
| Listen to what he's saying here. | ||
| So first sign, we're not playing games. | ||
| I hope he's serious. | ||
| And then he talks about the jails being emptied into our country. | ||
| That's a very real thing, and they just want to act like it's not going on. | ||
| We'll be doing that. | ||
| We're going to be extending within that period or as soon as we can the Trump tax cuts because, you know, they're coming due and they're very substantial for people. | ||
| And it would be very, I think it will anger a lot of people, frankly, if we don't get an extension of that. | ||
| That's what led us to one of the greatest economies ever. | ||
| And those two things are going to be very vital, very important. | ||
| We're going to be focusing on crime in the cities. | ||
| And we'll cut enough taxes. | ||
| Most of them are, as you know, if you look at the 25 worst places, they're just about all Democrat-controlled cities and states. | ||
| And we're going to be working with Democrat governors and Democrat mayors. | ||
| And I look forward to doing it. | ||
| But we have to do something about crime and mostly in our cities. | ||
| And we're going to have a lot of other things. | ||
| We'll be working on nominations. | ||
| We're going to still be working on some nominations. | ||
| I think they're going very well. | ||
| We have, for the most part, I think they're going extremely well. | ||
| It looks like Pete is doing well now. | ||
| I mean, people were a little bit concerned. | ||
| He's a young guy with a tremendous track record, actually. | ||
| He went to Princeton and went to Harvard. | ||
| He was a good student at both. | ||
| But he loves the military. | ||
| And I think people are starting to see it. | ||
| So we'll be working on his nomination along with a lot of others. | ||
| We are going to delve into your nominations, but since you bring him up, do you still have confidence in Pete Hexeth? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| He's a very smart guy. | ||
| I've known him through Fox, but I've known him for a long time. | ||
| And he's basically a military guy. | ||
| I mean, every time I talk to him, all he wants to talk about is the military. | ||
| He's a military guy. | ||
| I used to kid him about it. | ||
| I didn't think he would be in this position where he may be, hopefully will be Secretary of Defense. | ||
| But every time I was with him, he was fighting for soldiers where he said some soldier was unjustly put in prison because they were really doing what they were taught to do in some cases. | ||
| So, yeah, I think he's going to do fine. | ||
| The fact that there are these allegations against him, misconduct, sexual misconduct, heavy drinking, the fact that he said to some senators reportedly he'll stop drinking if he gets this job. | ||
| Does that worry you? | ||
| No, I think that everybody has something that they can stop. | ||
| Some people can stop eating. | ||
| I'm lucky I'm not a drinker, but I could stop eating. | ||
| And we all want to stop doing something. | ||
| And if he said that. | ||
| Yeah, Kristen, you could stop being fake news. | ||
| I mean, that's a nice thing to say. | ||
| That's a good thing to say. | ||
| But he's very respected. | ||
| I can tell you I know a lot of the people at Fox, they think he's fantastic. | ||
| And the people that work with him really, they love him. | ||
| So I think you're going to have somebody that's really terrific. | ||
| And again, all he talked about with me, I said, you know, you're not really a television guy, even though he did very well, as you know, you're really a military guy. | ||
| He said, I'm all about the military. | ||
| And I told him, so he's making a lot of money at Fox. | ||
| They're doing very well. | ||
| And I said, you know, if for some reason you don't get this thing, you're not going to be able to go back. | ||
| And all that money you're making, you can kiss it goodbye. | ||
| He said, this is all about America. | ||
| And he didn't say, well, let me think about it. | ||
| Let me discuss it. | ||
| That's a very big, risky thing he's doing. | ||
| When he goes and he says, I'm going to give up millions of dollars. | ||
| in order to possibly become the Secretary of Defense. | ||
| A lot of people would say it's a great position. | ||
| It's probably almost no greater position, but a lot of people would say, I have to think about it. | ||
| He said, I don't have to think about it. | ||
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All right. | |
| We're going to delve into your cabinet picks a little bit later. | ||
| But I want to delve into one of your signature promises on the campaign trail, which was to end inflation to lower prices. | ||
| You are now proposing tariffs against the United States' three biggest trading partners. | ||
| Economists of all stripes say that ultimately consumers pay the price of tariffs. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Can you guarantee American families won't pay more? | ||
| I can't guarantee anything. | ||
| I can't guarantee tomorrow, but I can say that, uh, if you look at my, by the way, imagine now the logic. | ||
| So. | ||
| So Democrats raise taxes, regulations all the time. | ||
| Specifically, Biden, Harris talk about raising taxes. | ||
| Tax the rich, tax the corporations. | ||
| And then prices go up. | ||
| And then they say it's price gouging. | ||
| They blame everybody, but not the policy. | ||
| But now all of a sudden that logic applies to Trump's policy. | ||
| Oh, your policy is going to raising taxes is going to raise prices. | ||
| Raising taxes is going to be bad for the economy. | ||
| Oh, but that logic doesn't work when it's your policy. | ||
| When you tax Americans more, he wants to tax foreign countries and companies in foreign countries more. | ||
| You tax Americans more. | ||
| I'm sick of the logical inconsistencies from these leftist liars. | ||
| The Biden-Harris administration crushed the economy with raising taxes, raising corporate taxes, raising regulation, raising the burden cost on the American people. | ||
| And then they blamed everybody else. | ||
| But Trump, his policy of tariffs hasn't even been tested yet, and they're already blaming him for raising prices, even though that's exactly what happened during the Biden-Harris regime. | ||
| Just pre-COVID, we had the greatest economy in the history of our country. | ||
| And I had a lot of tariffs on a lot of different countries, but in particular, China, we took in hundreds of billions of dollars, and we had no inflation. | ||
| In fact, when I handed it over, they didn't have inflation for a year and a half. | ||
| They went almost two years just based on what I had created. | ||
| And then they created inflation with energy and with spending too much. | ||
| So I think we will, I'm a big believer in tariffs. | ||
| I think tariffs are the most beautiful word. | ||
| I think they're beautiful. | ||
| It's going to make us rich. | ||
| We're subsidizing Canada to the tune of over $100 billion a year. | ||
| We're subsidizing Mexico for almost $300 billion. | ||
| We shouldn't be subsidizing. | ||
| Why are we subsidizing these countries? | ||
| If we're going to subsidize them, let her become a state. | ||
| We're subsidizing Mexico and we're subsidizing Canada and we're subsidizing many countries all over the world. | ||
| And all I want to do is I want to have a level, fast, but fair playing field. | ||
| Sir, your previous tariffs during your first administration cost Americans some $80 billion. | ||
| And now you have major companies from Walmart, Black ⁇ Decker, AutoZone saying that any tariffs are going to force them to drive up prices for their consumers. | ||
| How do you make sure that these CEOs, that these companies, don't in fact pass on the cost of tariffs to their consumers? | ||
| They cost Americans nothing. | ||
| They made a great economy for us. | ||
| They also solve another problem. | ||
| If we were going to have problems having to do with wars and having to do with other things, tariffs, I have stopped wars with tariffs by saying, you guys want to fight, it's great, but both of you are going to pay tariffs to the United States at 100%. | ||
| And they have many purposes tariffs, if properly used. | ||
| I don't say you use them like a madman. | ||
| I say properly used. | ||
| But it didn't cost this country anything. | ||
| It made this country money. | ||
| And we never really got the chance to go all out because we had to fight COVID in the last part. | ||
| And we did it very successfully. | ||
| And when I handed it over to Biden, the stock market was higher than what it was just previous to COVID coming in. | ||
| It was actually higher. | ||
| Tariffs are a, properly used, are a very powerful tool, not only economically, but also for getting other things outside of economics. | ||
| Well, again, prices did go up on some goods in your first administration, washing machines, tires. | ||
| Will you punish CEOs? | ||
| Let me just explain to you. | ||
| No. | ||
| You mentioned washing machines. | ||
| So you look at Whirlpool in Ohio. | ||
| I got a call from Jim Jordan, one of the great congressmen from Ohio. | ||
| And he said, they're going out of business because South Korea and China are dumping washing machines into our country. | ||
| And I put a 50% tariff on the washing machines coming in from China and South Korea. | ||
| And Whirlpool and the companies that made washing machines, which are based in Ohio, largely based in Ohio, went through the roof. | ||
| We saved thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs. | ||
| They were all going out of business because they were dumping washing machines. | ||
| And when I put the tariffs on, they became successful businesses. | ||
| No, it didn't, not only didn't it cost people, it made our country stronger and more powerful, and it kept jobs. | ||
| But how do you make sure that consumers don't wind up paying more? | ||
| Will you punish CEOs who try to pass the cost of tariffs on to their customers? | ||
| Well, the market's going to take care of it. | ||
| I mean, actually, the market takes care of it. | ||
| And if it doesn't, we adjust it somewhat. | ||
| But in the case of Whirlpool or let's say companies that made washing machines, they were all being put out of business by the dumping from, in particular, South Korea and China. | ||
| And when I put the tariffs on, very substantial tariffs, although peanuts compared to what people do to us, what countries do to us, it became a very, very powerful, successful company. | ||
| Now, let's say I didn't do the tariffs. | ||
| It would have gone out of business. | ||
| You would have lost tens of thousands of jobs. | ||
| And you don't include that in your equation. | ||
| No, they make a lot of money. | ||
| I'll go a step further. | ||
| Tariffs are going to make our country rich. | ||
| Tariffs are going to help us pay off $35 trillion in debt. | ||
| Tariffs are going to make our country safe because China, as an example, doesn't want to play games with us if we're going to do tariffs on them. | ||
| They don't want to play games. | ||
| And we have a lot of games being played on us right now. | ||
| Well, I think, and that takes me to my next question. | ||
| Are you actually going to impose these tariffs or are they a negotiating tactic? | ||
| Well, I'll give you an example. | ||
| What is with this woman? | ||
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Canada. | |
| This is a freaky. | ||
| Look at her eyes. | ||
| What is with this woman? | ||
| Something is off here. | ||
| Well, I'll give you an example. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I'm telling you, something is really whacked out about this woman. | ||
| What in the hell is with these eyes and this look she gives Donald Trump here? | ||
| It's always in the eyes. | ||
| If they show you the tops of the whites of their eyes, look at this. | ||
| What in the world? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Very odd. | ||
| She's just forcing it. | ||
| She's just trying to pretend she's an intellectual. | ||
| And in particular, Mexico, we have millions of people pouring into our country. | ||
| Yeah, too much drama class. | ||
| I spoke with the both. | ||
| I spoke with Justin Trudeau. | ||
| In fact, he flew to Mar-a-Lago within about 15 seconds after the call. | ||
| And he was at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| We were having dinner talking about it. | ||
| I said, you have to close up your borders because they're coming in the northern border too a lot. | ||
| Not like the southern border, but they're coming in the Canadian border a lot. | ||
| And drugs are pouring in. | ||
| Almost as importantly, drugs are pouring in. | ||
| Maybe more importantly, drugs are pouring in at levels never seen before, 10 times what we had. | ||
| They're just pouring in. | ||
| We can't have open borders. | ||
| And I said to the President of Mexico and to Justin Trudeau, if it doesn't stop, I'm going to put tariffs on your country at about 25%. | ||
| That's a very substantial tariff. | ||
| And in the case of, in both cases, but in the case where it was really visible, within 10 minutes after that phone call, we noticed that the people coming across the border, the southern border, having to do with Mexico, they were at a trickle, just a trickle. | ||
| In fact, I called the border. | ||
| See, unlike my opponent, I do call the border a lot. | ||
| And I said, how's the border looking today? | ||
| They said, there's nobody here. | ||
| They couldn't believe it. | ||
| The military stopped these vast groups of people. | ||
| You know, we call them caravans, but they had caravans of people, and they stopped, largely stopped them. | ||
| Now, they're going to have to continue that, but if they don't continue, and the other thing I told them is no more drugs, and I told that to China, too. | ||
| I had a deal with President Xi. | ||
| Had the election been different. | ||
| I'm going to be very nice because we don't have to get into an argument over 2020. | ||
| But had the election been different, the result been different, we would have had China giving their maximum penalty, which is the penalty of death, to people that sent fentanyl into this country. | ||
| But Biden didn't, unfortunately, finish that discussion up. | ||
| I had an agreement with President Xi, who I got along with very well. | ||
| We've had communication as recently as this week. | ||
| And I had communication with him where they were going to give the death penalty to anybody sending drugs into the United States. | ||
| This week you had that conversation. | ||
| Not that conversation, but I had other conversations. | ||
| But in the past, I've had that conversation. | ||
| Let me ask you about another aspect of the economy, sir, the minimum wage. | ||
| The federal minimum wage has been $7.25 since 2009. | ||
| Broad-eyed freak. | ||
| There are 20 states that still have the federal minimum wage at $7.25. | ||
| And I actually have a map. | ||
| 19 of these states actually voted for you, sir. | ||
| And you can see right here. | ||
| I don't know if you remember this, but during the debate in 2020, I asked you if you would raise the minimum wage. | ||
| You said you would consider it. | ||
| And so my question for you is: now that you are going back to the White House for these 19 states that voted for you, are you going to raise the federal wage? | ||
| It's a very long number, I will agree. | ||
| It's a very low number. | ||
| Let me give you the downside, though. | ||
| In California, they raise it up to a very high number. | ||
| And your restaurants are going out of business all over the place. | ||
| The population is shrinking. | ||
| It's had a very negative impact. | ||
| But there is a level at which you could do it, absolutely. | ||
| What does that level do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I really don't know. | ||
| I can say this. | ||
| You have a lot of businesses that are open and thriving because of the lower minimum wage. | ||
| If you raise it too much, and you understand this, California went crazy. | ||
| They went crazy. | ||
| And people, the restaurants are closing all over. | ||
| Many more people are hurt. | ||
| So I hear you saying, similarly to sort of what you said in 2020, will you consider it? | ||
| I'd want to speak to the governors. | ||
| And the other thing that's very complicated about minimum wages is places are so different. | ||
| Mississippi and Alabama and great places are very different than New York or California. | ||
| I mean, in terms of the cost of living and other things. | ||
| So it would be nice to have just a minimum wage for the whole country, but it wouldn't work because you have places where it's very inexpensive to live, where a minimum wage, which is $8 or $9, might be, you know, might have very much, very little effect because the cost of living in certain places is really low. | ||
| Before we move on to immigration, which I do want to talk about, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, said he will not leave his post even if you ask him to. | ||
| Will you try to replace Jerome Powell? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I don't see it. | ||
| But I don't. | ||
| I think if I told him to, he would. | ||
| But if I asked him to, he probably wouldn't. | ||
| But if I told him to, he would. | ||
| You don't have plans to do that right now? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Let's talk about mass deportation, one of your big agenda items. | ||
| You've talked about prioritizing people who have criminal histories. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| But is it your plan to deport everyone who is here illegally over the next four years? | ||
| Well, I think you have to do it. | ||
| And it's a very tough thing to do. | ||
| But you have to have, you know, you have rules, regulations, laws. | ||
| They came in illegally. | ||
| You know, the people that have been treated very unfairly are the people that have been online for 10 years to come into the country. | ||
| And we're going to make it very easy for people to come in in terms of they have to pass the test. | ||
| They have to be able to tell you what the Statue of Liberty is. | ||
| They have to tell you a little bit about our country. | ||
| They have to love our country. | ||
| They can't come out of prisons. | ||
| We don't want people that are in for murder. | ||
| So we had 11,000 and 13,000 different estimates, 13,099 murderers released into our country over the last three years. | ||
| They're walking down the streets. | ||
| They're walking next to you and your family. | ||
| And they're very dangerous. | ||
| The 13,000 figure, I think, goes back about 40 years ago. | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| It's within the three-year period. | ||
| It's during the Biden term. | ||
| That was a fiction that they put that out. | ||
| This was done by the Border Patrol. | ||
| It's 13,099. | ||
| Yeah, so here's what they do. | ||
| And this is so good that Trump gets the opportunity to actually address this so people can understand the situation. | ||
| They'll take a stat like that and expand it and say, oh, it's over 40 years. | ||
| Well, let's say over 36 years, 200 murderers got into the country from the open border. | ||
| And then 13,800 came in under Biden. | ||
| And then they just expand it. | ||
| Now you say, oh, it's over 40 years. | ||
| No, they cooked the books. | ||
| They rigged the numbers. | ||
| So good for Trump for correcting Welker, giving the fake news. | ||
| And it's during the Biden period of time. | ||
| And these are murderers, many of whom murdered more than one person. | ||
| You don't want those people in this country. | ||
| But you're saying something, sir, that's significant. | ||
| So I just want to make sure I'm clear, which is that you're saying, yes, you're going to focus on the people with criminal histories, but everyone who's here illegally has to go. | ||
| I'm saying we have to get the criminals out of our country. | ||
| We have to get people that were taken out of mental institutions and put them back into their mental institution, no matter what country it is. | ||
| Do you know that Venezuela, their prisons are at the lowest point in terms of emptiness that they've ever been? | ||
| They're taking their people out of those prisons by the thousands and they're drunk. | ||
| And just to get back, because I know exactly what you're getting at. | ||
| Number one, we're doing criminals and we're going to do them really rapidly. | ||
| We're getting the worst gang probably with MS-13 and the Venezuelan gangs are the worst in the world. | ||
| They're vicious, violent people. | ||
| And you see what they've done in Colorado and other places. | ||
| They're taking over, literally taking over apartment complexes and doing it with impunity. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They couldn't. | ||
| They just are, they're in the real estate business. | ||
| But the local police say that is not the case in Colorado. | ||
| Oh, it's totally the case. | ||
| I mean, I think. | ||
| You don't believe the local police. | ||
| I play it. | ||
| I used to play it at my rallies every single night. | ||
| No, they're breaking into doors. | ||
| They're taking over the building. | ||
| But, sir, you're not going to be able to do it. | ||
| And by the way, the police are afraid to do anything. | ||
| You raised the point that the logistics are complicated. | ||
| You said yourself, you would. | ||
| But everything's complicated. | ||
| Yeah, you mean you need 24 times more ICE detention capacity just to deport 1 million people per year, not to mention more agents, more judges, more planes. | ||
| Is it realistic to deport everyone who's not going to be able to do that? | ||
| We have no choice. | ||
| First of all, they're costing us a fortune. | ||
| Imagine the implications of her logic or this logic that, oh, it's too hard to do it. | ||
| So, oh, if you just, it's like the riot logic. | ||
| Oh, well, they're rioting and there's too many of them, so we can't do anything about it. | ||
| Oh, so you just let them burn the city to the ground? | ||
| Oh, there's so many illegals coming in and getting into your cities. | ||
| Well, we can't do anything about it. | ||
| Oh, so you just let them take over and commit crimes? | ||
| Think about that flawed logic. | ||
| Oh, it's too big. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| So we just don't do anybody. | ||
| Oh, so what's the precedent there? | ||
| The precedent is, oh, well, if you break the law enough times and it's so overwhelming, then we just give up on law enforcement. | ||
| Law enforcement stops at a certain number. | ||
| No, this is the Biden administration's fault for bringing them all in here and letting them stay. | ||
| That's whose fault this is. | ||
| And the logic is going to be, sorry, we broke too many. | ||
| Sorry, we brought too many in. | ||
| Nothing you can do about it. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| Sorry, we brought 20 million in. | ||
| Good luck getting rid of them all. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| Aren't the logistics impossible? | ||
| Oh, so you're admitting Biden's open border invasion is such a large number that it would be impossible to deport them all. | ||
| That doesn't put this on Trump. | ||
| That puts this on Biden with their overwhelmingly exaggerated head tilt and eye bugs. | ||
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But Mr. Trump, but it's too much. | |
| Is it really even possible? | ||
| Well, they brought them all in. | ||
| Starting with the criminals, and we got to do it. | ||
| And then we're starting with others. | ||
| And we're going to see how it goes. | ||
| Who are the others? | ||
| Others or other people outside of criminals. | ||
| We have convicted murderers. | ||
| We don't mean people that are even on trial. | ||
| We have people that have murdered numerous people are on our streets and in our farms. | ||
| And we have to get them out of our country. | ||
| What about dreamers, sir? | ||
| Dreamers who were brought to this country. | ||
| Dreamers. | ||
| You said once back in 2017, they, quote, shouldn't be very worried about being deported. | ||
| Should they be worried now? | ||
| The DREAMers are going to come later. | ||
| And we have to do something about the DREAMers because these are people that have been brought here at a very young age. | ||
| And many of these are middle-aged people now. | ||
| They don't even speak the language of their country. | ||
| And yes, we're going to do something about this. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| I will work with the Democrats on a plan. | ||
| And if we can come up with a plan, but the Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything. | ||
| Republicans are very open to the DREAMers. | ||
| The DREAMers, we're talking many years ago they were brought into this country. | ||
| Many years ago, some of them are no longer young people. | ||
| And in many cases, they become successful. | ||
| They have great jobs. | ||
| In some cases, they have small businesses. | ||
| In some cases, they might have large businesses. | ||
| And we're going to have to do something with them. | ||
| You want them to be able to stay. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I want to be able to work something out. | ||
| And it should have been able to be worked out over the last three or four years. | ||
| And it never got worked out. | ||
| You know, Biden could have done it because he controlled, you know. | ||
| Congress to a certain extent, right? | ||
| He could have done something, but they didn't do it. | ||
| I never understood why, because they always seem to want to do it, but then when it comes down to it, they don't. | ||
| I think we can work with the Democrats and work something out. | ||
| Let me ask you about another group of people, the estimated 4 million families in America who have mixed immigration status. | ||
| So I'm talking about parents who might be here illegally, but the kids are here legally. | ||
| Your borders are Tom Homan. | ||
| You're talking about separation? | ||
| Well, I mean, there are two aspects to this. | ||
| Your border czar Tom Homan said they can be deported together. | ||
| Is that the plan? | ||
| So that way you keep the well, I don't want to be breaking up families. | ||
| So the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back. | ||
| Even kids who are here legally? | ||
| Well, what you're going to do if they want to stay with a father? | ||
| Look, we have to have rules and regulations. | ||
| You can always find something out like, you know, this doesn't work, that doesn't work. | ||
| I'll tell you what's going to be horrible. | ||
| When we take a wonderful young woman who's with a criminal and they show the woman, and she could stay by the law, but they show the woman being taken out, or they want her out, and your cameras are focused on her as she's crying as she's being taken out of our country, and then the public turns against us. | ||
| But we have to do our job, and you have to have a series of standards and a series of laws. | ||
| And in the end, look, our country is a mess. | ||
| We have the highest crime rate. | ||
| And during the debate, a man whose ratings have gone way down, David Muir, said to me, no, crime is, because I had to debate three people, not one. | ||
| Debating one was easy. | ||
| Debating three was actually pretty easy, too, if you want to know the truth. | ||
| But David Muir said, the crime rates have gone down. | ||
| I said, no, they've gone up. | ||
| And then the following day, they released the crime rates and they were way up. | ||
| Yeah, the FBI statistics are you're talking about those FBI statistics. | ||
| Well, no, but he gave the wrong answer. | ||
| Confusing based on what you're looking at. | ||
| But a lot of that is migrant crime. | ||
| Let me ask you about another aspect of this. | ||
| Christian, you know, a lot of it's migrant crime. | ||
| Again, what is with this woman? | ||
| Seriously, what is with these little body ticks? | ||
| Did you see that one? | ||
| She's like having spasms. | ||
| Is she like on drugs or something? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| He gave the wrong answer. | ||
| Confusing based on what you're looking at. | ||
| But a lot of that is migrant crime. | ||
| Let me ask you about it. | ||
| Shut up and let him talk. | ||
| You're talking about those FBI statistics. | ||
| Well, no, but he gave the wrong answers. | ||
| Confusing statistics. | ||
| She wags her finger. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| She wags her finger at him. | ||
| She finger wags. | ||
| You're talking about those FBI statistics. | ||
| Well, no, but he gave the wrong answer. | ||
| Confusing based on what you're looking at. | ||
| Oh, it's confusing. | ||
| No, they lied about it. | ||
| They lied about it. | ||
| And they admitted it. | ||
| They fudged the numbers. | ||
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| And she just acts like it never happened. | ||
| And she finger waves. | ||
| A lot of that is migrant crime. | ||
| Let me ask you about another aspect of this. | ||
| Christian, you know, a lot of it's migrant crime. | ||
| Well, let me ask you about another aspect of this that I think a lot of people are really curious about. | ||
| I mean, 3% of the people who are here illegally have criminal histories. | ||
| But in your first administration, you had the zero tolerance policy. | ||
| 3% have criminal histories. | ||
| 3%. | ||
| First of all, they all have criminal histories. | ||
| They came here illegally. | ||
| So 100%. | ||
| But let's say it is 3%. | ||
| So out of 20 million people, 3%. | ||
| So that's what? | ||
| 600,000 people? | ||
| It's tens of thousands of people. | ||
| I think it's 60,000 people. | ||
| 60,000 people? | ||
| Oh, we just let in 60,000 criminals. | ||
| Oh, okay, cool. | ||
| Where we did see family separation. | ||
| You ended it. | ||
| The purpose of that, though, to some extent, and you talked about this at the time, was to change the colours. | ||
| You also had it with Obama. | ||
| You do know that. | ||
| He didn't have a zero tolerance policy. | ||
| And you also know he built the jails for children. | ||
| He didn't have a zero tolerance policy. | ||
| But in 2014, he built the jails. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| I want to ask you about the zero tolerance policy. | ||
| I mean, he didn't have a systemic, we're going to separate families. | ||
| Families were separated when parents were a threat to the kids. | ||
| We don't have to separate them. | ||
| Now she's lying for Barack Obama. | ||
| This woman is insufferable. | ||
| Excuse me, Chris. | ||
| We don't have to separate families. | ||
| We'll send the whole family very humanely back to the country where they came. | ||
| That way the family's not separated. | ||
| So no more family separations. | ||
| You're not reviving the family. | ||
| It depends on the family. | ||
| The family may decide to say, I'd rather have dad go, but and we'll stay here. | ||
| And in which case they have that option. | ||
| But you're not going to revive your zero tolerance policy, which was put in place as a deterrent. | ||
| Is there any universe where you would bring that back? | ||
| We need deterrence. | ||
| Look, ready? | ||
| When somebody comes here illegally, they're going out. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
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| When they come here, that's what it is. | ||
| You have to talk to these people like they're idiots. | ||
| You have to talk to Kristen Welker like she's a moron, like she's an eight-year-old. | ||
| Because that's how she's behaving. | ||
| They're going out. | ||
| Now, if they come here, look, look, let me say this really slow so you can understand, okay? | ||
| I'll use small words. | ||
| Maybe you can understand. | ||
| We'll try to make it really basic, really simple for you. | ||
| I know this is difficult. | ||
| It's tough for you. | ||
| You don't get it. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| I understand. | ||
| You're challenged. | ||
| So let me just make it simple for you, okay? | ||
| Short words, short sentences, okay? | ||
| Even you can understand. | ||
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| Illegally, but their family is here legally, then the family has a choice. | ||
| The person that came in illegally can go out, or they can all go out together. | ||
| And that was made very clear by Tom Holman. | ||
| So you're not, at this point in time, planning to revive that zero tolerance policy where kids are never. | ||
| I'm doing what I just told you I'm going to do. | ||
| You know, I don't want to send the family out. | ||
| I don't want to send anybody out. | ||
| But I'll tell you, we have to, because otherwise we have no country. | ||
| If we don't have borders, and if we don't have voting, good voting, fair voting, do you know they're still counting votes in San Diego, California? | ||
| Listen, they're still counting the votes. | ||
| This is almost four weeks. | ||
| They're still counting the votes. | ||
| If we don't have fair elections and honest voting and machines that work quickly, you know, if you had paper ballots, every election will be over by 10 o'clock in the evening. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| You understand what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, let me before you. | ||
| You understand a much more accurate count. | ||
| This is hard for you. | ||
| You're not very proud. | ||
| I'm going to ask you about some of your other promises on this topic. | ||
| You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. | ||
| Is that still your plan? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens. | ||
| Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action? | ||
| Maybe we have to go back to the people, but we have to end it. | ||
| We're the only country that has it. | ||
| Throughout executive action. | ||
| You know, we're the only country that has it. | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| That's not the full, that is not the full context of that part of the Constitution, by the way. | ||
| But again, what is with this woman? | ||
| Look at this again. | ||
| Through an executive action. | ||
| You know, we're the only country that has it. | ||
| Do you know the country that has it? | ||
| Through an executive action. | ||
| You know, we're the only country that has it. | ||
| Do you know if somebody sets a foot? | ||
| Seriously, seriously, what is with this woman's mannerisms? | ||
| Very strange stuff. | ||
| Very odd. | ||
| Just a foot, one foot. | ||
| You don't need to on our land. | ||
| Congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States of America. | ||
| Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous. | ||
| Through executive action? | ||
| Well, if we can, through executive action. | ||
| I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you. | ||
| We have to end it. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Do you know we're the only country in the world that has it? | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| There's not one of the countries. | ||
| What about the legal challenge? | ||
| The inevitable legal challenges that'll come. | ||
| Do you know we have thousands of judges? | ||
| Somebody walks onto our land and we have to now say, welcome to the United States. | ||
| They could be a criminal or not a criminal. | ||
| We release them into our country. | ||
| It's called catch and release. | ||
| We release them into our country. | ||
| Wait, just one second. | ||
| And now they get them lawyers. | ||
| And the lawyers are good lawyers. | ||
| And everybody has a lawyer. | ||
| And you know how many judges we have? | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| Now, here's what other countries do. | ||
| They come into the land and they say, I'm sorry, you have to go. | ||
| And they take them out. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| With us, once they touch our land, we're into litigation that lasts for years, costs us hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
| We have judges, and I'm sure they're all honest, but I don't know that for a fact. | ||
| You can imagine what's going on with the judges. | ||
| But just so you, because I have a lot of judges, I tell you what, I know more about judges than any human being in history. | ||
| Look, we have judges. | ||
| Every time somebody puts two feet or even one foot on a piece of our land, it's welcome to long-term litigation. | ||
| Other countries, every other country, when somebody walks on and they see that they're here illegally, they walk them off. | ||
| They take them back to where they came from. | ||
| We have to get rid of this system. | ||
| It's killing our country. | ||
| Let's talk about health care. | ||
| I've been talking to Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill. | ||
| They say it's no longer feasible to repeal and replace Obamacare because it's so entrenched in the system. | ||
| Do you think that way? | ||
| Is that a problem? | ||
| Listen to this logic. | ||
| These are criminals. | ||
| We're going to commit such big crimes that there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| And then when you try to do something about it, we're going to say, sorry, it's too big. | ||
| It's too late. | ||
| Oh, we're entrenched in Obamacare now. | ||
| So there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| That's how this corrupt deep state works. | ||
| And here's the media carrying their water. | ||
| Oh, we brought in too many illegal immigrants. | ||
| Nothing you can do. | ||
| Oh, we forced you into government-run health care. | ||
| There's nothing you can do. | ||
| It's entrenched now. | ||
| We beat you. | ||
| I mean, that is such corrupt logic. | ||
| That's how you conquer people. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I'm beating you. | ||
| You can't fight. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| You don't get to fight back. | ||
| You don't get to talk. | ||
| Sorry, it's over. | ||
| Yep, we invaded your country too many. | ||
| You can't get rid of them. | ||
| Yep, we forced you on a government-run health care. | ||
| You can't get rid of it. | ||
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| Off the table repealing and replacing. | ||
| When John McCain let us down by voting, and Murkowski and Collins and whoever it was that voted against, but they really let us down. | ||
| They did us a great disservice because we would have had great health. | ||
| Obamacare is lousy health care. | ||
| It's very expensive health care for the people. | ||
| It's also expensive for the country, but for the people. | ||
| It's lousy health care. | ||
| When John McCain gave his thumbs down after saying for 10 years that he wants to repeal and replace, okay? | ||
| And then he came out, he put his now famous thumbs down, and he became a hero to the left. | ||
| Just let me just tell you, if we find something better, I would love to do it. | ||
| But unless we find, but one thing I have to say, I inherited Obamacare or anything else you want to go. | ||
| This guy got 20 names, but I inherited it. | ||
| And I had a decision to make with health and human services. | ||
| I had a big decision to make. | ||
| Do I make it as good as we can make it or do I let it rot? | ||
| And a lot of political people said, let it rot and let it be a failure. | ||
| I said, that's not the right thing to do. | ||
| And I had very good people in the medical area that handled that. | ||
| And I said, what do you want to do? | ||
| He said, we really have an obligation to make it as good as we can. | ||
| And we did. | ||
| We made it as good as we can make it. | ||
| Instead of making it bad where everybody would be calling for its repeal, I made it so that it works. | ||
| Now, you did try to overturn it. | ||
| Well, it's lousy. | ||
| You did try to overturn it. | ||
| You did have your Justice Department try to direct the Supreme Court to do it. | ||
| No, we got a little bit of a surprising opinion, to be honest with you. | ||
| If it would have been overturned, we would have had much better health care right now. | ||
| But right now, we have something that I made the best of. | ||
| I could have made the worst of it, and it would have fallen by the wayside. | ||
| I did the right thing from a human standpoint. | ||
| But, you know, I'm sort of proud of my decision. | ||
| At the same time, sometimes I regret it. | ||
| I told the people, and I gave them the money to do it. | ||
| I said, fix it, make it work, because people would have suffered. | ||
| But it's too bad that they voted no. | ||
| I wish John McCain, I wish he fought for 10 years on repairing, replacing Obamacare for 10 years, and then he voted against. | ||
| Nobody understands it. | ||
| Sir, you said during the campaign you had concepts of a plan. | ||
| Do you have an actual plan at this point for health care? | ||
| Yes, we have concepts. | ||
| This woman is on something. | ||
| Still just concepts. | ||
| Do you have a fully developed plan? | ||
| Let me explain. | ||
| We have the biggest health care companies looking at it. | ||
| We have doctors. | ||
| We're always looking because Obamacare stinks. | ||
| It's lousy. | ||
| There are better answers. | ||
| If we come up with a better answer, I would present that answer to Democrats and to everybody else, and I do something about it. | ||
| But until we have that or until they can approve it, but we're not going to go through the big deal. | ||
| I am the one that saved Obamacare, I will say, and I did the right thing. | ||
| I could have done the more political thing and killed it. | ||
| And all I had to do is starve it to death. | ||
| You did try to have your Justice Department effectively kill it, though. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Kill it from a legal standpoint. | ||
| But from a physical standpoint, I made it work. | ||
| In your concepts of a plan, sir, will people with pre-existing conditions still have coverage? | ||
| And can you guarantee their prices will not go up? | ||
| The answer is yes. | ||
| They'll have coverage. | ||
| You have to have it. | ||
| And what about their prices? | ||
| Because you know what? | ||
| What about their prices, sir? | ||
| Their prices already went up. | ||
| Prices went up already under Obamacare. | ||
| And there are ways of doing it, I believe. | ||
| And I have the smartest people in that world. | ||
| You know, that's a separate world unto itself. | ||
| I have the smartest people in that world looking at it and trying. | ||
| And if they come up with something, I will present it. | ||
| Now, maybe you won't be able to sell it, but if we get better health care for less money, I believe it's very saleable. | ||
| Very quickly, when will we see your fully developed plan? | ||
| When are you going to? | ||
| I don't know that you'll see it at all. | ||
| I can only say that we have some of the best health care people. | ||
| I've always tinkered with it. | ||
| I think it's a little hard to explain. | ||
| Obamacare, when I took it over, was a disaster. | ||
| And I made it. | ||
| It hasn't shared 20 million people. | ||
| Yeah, because of me. | ||
| Because of me. | ||
| If you look at what I did, I was tried to. | ||
| I made it good. | ||
| You tried to repeal and replace it. | ||
| You tried to repeat it. | ||
| Because if I repealed it and replaced it, we would have had a better system because we wouldn't have had health care. | ||
| And the Democrats would have been forced to do something. | ||
| If we wouldn't have had it, the Democrats would have been forced to do something that they wouldn't do if we have it. | ||
| Let me ask you about another aspect of health care. | ||
| You talked about this on the campaign trail, IVF. | ||
| You promised free IVF for all who want it, either through the government or through mandates with insurance companies. | ||
| I've been hearing from Republican senators, some of them, who say they're not going to support that plan. | ||
| How are you going to get that passed? | ||
| Well, we're going to see. | ||
| We want them to pay, ideally, the insurance companies to pay for it, the fertilization. | ||
| I came out very early for a Republican, especially, and I think they were looking for my guidance, my great wisdom, right? | ||
| They were looking for it. | ||
| And I got a call from Katie Britt, who's a terrific person, senator from Alabama. | ||
| And she said, sir, we just had a really negative ruling from a judge in Alabama, conservative judge, that all of these clinics ought to be closed. | ||
| And she said, and she went into great detail, and she said, people are devastated over it. | ||
| And after literally speaking to her for five minutes, I issued an order, really an order, in a sense. | ||
| And it was a statement from the Republican Party that we are all for IVF and fertilization. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Alabama legislature met the following day and passed it. | ||
| It was a beautiful thing to see. | ||
| And I consider myself to be the father of IVF in a certain way. | ||
| And the Republicans were very strong on the issue. | ||
| But, sir, I want to understand where it falls in your list of priorities. | ||
| I mean, is this something we can expect to see you try to move on in the first 100 days? | ||
| We're going to be talking about it, and we're going to be seeing. | ||
| We have a lot of other things. | ||
| I have tax cuts. | ||
| You know, we'll be submitting in either the first or second package to Congress the extension of the tax cut. | ||
| So that might very well be in there or it'll come sometime after that. | ||
| Let's talk about abortion, sir. | ||
| You have taken responsibility for overturning Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| You've said that abortion is now a state issue. | ||
| There are steps that you can. | ||
| The election is over. | ||
| Leave these election issues alone. | ||
| This is just ridiculous. | ||
| This whacked out woman is just trying to bring these election issues back up to get people not to like them. | ||
| Take, though, as president. | ||
| This is a very divisive tactic here by Welker. | ||
| Restrict abortion through executive action without Congress. | ||
| More than half of abortions in this country are medication abortions. | ||
| Will you restrict the availability of abortion pills when you're in office? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I'll probably stay with exactly what I've been saying for the last two years, and the answer is no. | ||
| You commit to that. | ||
| Well, I commit. | ||
| I mean, do things change? | ||
| I think they change. | ||
| I hate to go on shows like Joe Biden. | ||
| I'm not going to give my son a pardon. | ||
| I will not, under any circumstances, give him a pardon. | ||
| I watched this, and I always knew he was going to give him a pardon. | ||
| And so I don't like putting myself in a position like that. | ||
| So things do change. | ||
| It's at the state level. | ||
| She knows this. | ||
| It's at the state level now. | ||
| But I don't think it's going to change at all. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's talk about some of your picks to fill out your administration. | ||
| You named Cash Patel to be the next FBI director. | ||
| He has a list in his book of 60 people that he calls members of the so-called deep state. | ||
| It includes Democrats like Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. | ||
| It includes former members of your cabinet from Bill Barr to Christopher Wray. | ||
| You campaigned on destroying the deep state. | ||
| Do you want Cash Patel to launch investigations into people on that list? | ||
| No, I mean, he's going to do what he thinks is right. | ||
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| Do you think that's right, sir? | ||
| If they think that somebody was dishonest or crooked or a corrupt politician, I think he probably has an obligation to do it. | ||
| Are you going to direct him to do this? | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| We have two great people there. | ||
| We have him and we have Pam. | ||
| See, exactly. | ||
| They love to play these games. | ||
| Trump just nailed her on that. | ||
| He just nailed her on that. | ||
| Oh, is she going to go up against these people? | ||
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| It's his obligation to go after criminals. | ||
| If they're committing crimes, if they're crooked, if they're corrupt, then yeah, he's going to go after them if they're criminals. | ||
| I love that answer. | ||
| Oh, these poor people, oh, are they going to go after them? | ||
| Are they going to? | ||
| Well, yeah, if they're criminals, are you going to come after me? | ||
| Are you a criminal? | ||
| Great response. | ||
| Pam Bondi has been like a rocket ship. | ||
| She's very popular and very good and very fair. | ||
| And Cash Patel is very fair. | ||
| I'll tell you, I thought Cash may be difficult because he's, you know, a strong conservative voice. | ||
| And I don't know of anybody that's not singing his praises. | ||
| The other day I was watching, and Trey Gowdy, who's a moderate person and very smart and very respected in the party, he's Cash's biggest fan. | ||
| He said, this is the most misunderstood man in politics. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| I guess they work together on the Trump still religiously watches Fox News. | ||
| Russia hoax or something. | ||
| And Trey Gowdy became a fan. | ||
| You know Trey Gowdy. | ||
| Everybody respects him. | ||
| And, you know, just like him, others also. | ||
| I don't know if one negative vote, I don't think he's going to have any negative votes. | ||
| Is it your expectation, though, that Cash Patel will pursue investigations against your political enemies? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Do you want to see that happen? | ||
| If they were crooked, if they did something wrong, if they have broken the law, probably they went after me. | ||
| They went after me and I did nothing wrong. | ||
| Well, let me ask you this. | ||
| You said President Biden, quote, that you're going to appoint a real special prosecutor to go after Joe Biden. | ||
| You said that the campaign. | ||
| You said that on Truth Social, June 12th, 2023. | ||
| I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States, Joe Biden and the entire part of the crime family. | ||
| Are you going to do that? | ||
| Are you going to go after Joe Biden? | ||
| I'm really looking to make our country successful. | ||
| I'm not looking to go back into the past. | ||
| I'm looking to make our country successful. | ||
| Retribution will be through success. | ||
| If we can make this country successful, that would be my greatest, that would be such a great achievement. | ||
| Bring it back. | ||
| We have a country now that's overridden with crime, that has millions of people that shouldn't be here, that should be in prisons in other countries, that should be in mental institutions. | ||
| We have drug lords being dropped into our country and told never go back to their country. | ||
| I'm looking to make our country great. | ||
| I'm looking to bring prices down because, you know, I won on two things. | ||
| The border and more than immigration. | ||
| You know, they like to say immigration. | ||
| I break it down more to the border, but I won on the border and I won on groceries. | ||
| It's a very simple word, groceries. | ||
| Like almost, you know, who uses the word? | ||
| I started using the word the groceries. | ||
| When you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs, they would double and triple the price over a short period of time. | ||
| And I won an election based on that. | ||
| We're going to bring those prices way down. | ||
| I want to pause here because what you're saying is significant. | ||
| Because you wrote on Truth Social in 2023 that you're going to appoint a real special prosecutor to go after Joe Biden. | ||
| Now you're saying. | ||
| You know, they did a Did you know that they did a second American Psycho? | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Obviously, American Psycho, Christian Bale, occult classic. | ||
| But did you know they actually did a second American Psycho? | ||
| Now they are talking about rebooting the original, but they did a second American Psycho. | ||
| Do you know who it featured? | ||
| Featured Mila Kunis. | ||
| It was not a very good movie. | ||
| She was not good in the role. | ||
| The writing wasn't good anyway. | ||
| It was a total flop. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| If Kristen Welker would have been the main character in American Psycho 2, I think it might have hit. | ||
| This is the female American Psycho. | ||
| Her mannerisms, her over-exaggerated bug eyes. | ||
| American Psycho is perfect. | ||
| They should never remake it. | ||
| It's American Psycho 2 that desperately needs the remake because they failed so bad. | ||
| Remake American Psycho 2 and make Kristen Welker the main character. | ||
| It might hit. | ||
| Then you're not going to do that. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| No, I'm not doing that unless I find something that I think is reasonable. | ||
| But that's not going to be my decision. | ||
| That's going to be Pam Bondi's decision and to a different extent, Cash Patel. | ||
| Assuming they're both there, and I think they're both going to get approved. | ||
| But while you ask me that, what they've done to me with weaponization is a disgrace. | ||
| We'll get to some of that. | ||
| No, no, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| You can't do one without the other. | ||
| In the history of our country, nothing like this has ever happened. | ||
| And I've won these cases. | ||
| I've won. | ||
| Everyone and the rest are in the process of being one. | ||
| During Jack Smith is on his way back to The Hague where he can execute people. | ||
| This is where he should have stayed. | ||
| I think he's dangerous even being there. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, what they've done to me in terms of weaponization, indictments, impeachments, and everything else. | ||
| And in the end, it probably helped me because they got the biggest vote, the most votes any Republican's ever gotten in history. | ||
| Pam Bondi talks about investigating the investigators. | ||
| Do you want her to investigate Jack Smith? | ||
| I want her to do what she wants to do. | ||
| Do you want to see Jack Smith involved? | ||
| Well, I think he's very corrupt, but I want her to do whatever she has to do. | ||
| Are you going to direct her to prosecute him? | ||
| She's a very smart person. | ||
| She was a great attorney general in Florida. | ||
| She's very experienced. | ||
| I want her to do what she wants to do. | ||
| I'm not going to instruct her to do it now. | ||
| Sir, are you going to fire the current FBI director, Christopher Wray, who you appointed? | ||
| Well, I can't say I'm thrilled with him. | ||
| He invaded my home. | ||
| I'm suing the country over it. | ||
| He invaded Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| I'm very unhappy with the things he's done. | ||
| And crime is at an all-time high. | ||
| Migrants are pouring into the country that are from prisons and from mental institutions, as we've discussed. | ||
| I can't say I'm thrilled. | ||
| I don't want to say, I don't want to, again, I don't want to be Joe Biden and give you an answer and then do the exact opposite. | ||
| We're going to talk about that. | ||
| So I'm not going to do that. | ||
| What I'm going to say is I certainly cannot be happy with him. | ||
| You take a look at what's happened. | ||
| And then when I was shot in the ear, he said, oh, maybe it was. | ||
| See, you can learn here, or you can see that Trump has learned a lot and how they take these clips out of context to demonize him. | ||
| So he's adding the context at the end of these clips. | ||
| So when they lie about what he said, then they can go back and pull the full clip and show how they're lying. | ||
| So this is through experience. | ||
| He's really learned how to properly try to context things so that when they clip it out of context, you can go back and watch the full clip and see how corrupt and dirty the media is. | ||
| With shrapnel, where's the shrapnel coming from? | ||
| Is it coming from heaven? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| So we need somebody to straighten. | ||
| You know, I have a lot of respect for the FBI, but the FBI's respect has gone way down over the last number of years. | ||
| Don't you have to fire him in order to make room for Cash Patel if he is in fact confirmed? | ||
| Well, I mean, it would sort of seem pretty obvious that if Cash gets in, he's going to be taking somebody's place, right? | ||
| And somebody is the man that you're talking about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's talk about Project 2025. | ||
| This is the conservative policy blueprint. | ||
| You disavowed it during the campaign. | ||
| You called it a product of the radical right. | ||
| You've said some of their ideas are. | ||
| Some of it is very good. | ||
| Some of it's very mainstream, actually. | ||
| Frankly, the Democrats should have used some of it because they went, you know, with all the transgender that they were doing and with the men playing in women's sports, if they wouldn't have done that, maybe they would have done better. | ||
| Oh, that's an old-timer. | ||
| All the transgender they were doing. | ||
| All the transgender, all the transgender they were doing. | ||
| So you take me to my question. | ||
| You're now giving people involved in Project 2025 prominent roles in your administration. | ||
| Are you changing your mind about Project 2025? | ||
| Is this now the policy blueprint for this? | ||
| This woman is so geeked up on whatever she's geeked up on. | ||
| I'm starting to get geeked up. | ||
| I'm starting to bug-eye out. | ||
| Is this happening to anybody else? | ||
| She is so geeked out of her mind and bug-eyed out. | ||
| I'm starting to bug-eye out. | ||
| Second Trump administration. | ||
| Some people, if you take a look at this, the fact that Trump can even sit there and maintain his calm and his steady is impressive with this bug-eyed, whacked-out person sitting two feet from him. | ||
| Hundreds of people were involved. | ||
| And I was actually, I reprimanded the whole group. | ||
| I said, you shouldn't have placed this document in front of the voters because I have nothing to do with it and I'm the one that's running. | ||
| You had no right to do this where you put a thousand-page document in front. | ||
| And many of those things I disagree with. | ||
| Now, many of those things I happen to agree with. | ||
| Many of those things Democrats should have agreed to. | ||
| And I think they would have done much better in the election because they got slaughtered. | ||
| Well, I guess people see the list, Russ Vogt, Brendan Carr, Peter Navarro, John Ratcliffe, Pete Hoekstra, Monica Crowley, and they think these are all the people who were involved in or writing Project 2025. | ||
| This must be a blueprint for work requirements, eliminating the Head Start program, criminalizing pornography. | ||
| Is that what we can expect? | ||
| I don't know how they voted. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I never spoke to him actually. | ||
| All of that doesn't sound too bad. | ||
| Did you see that little? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Was that a little Hunter? | ||
| Biden? | ||
| White House cocaine? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I never spoke to him actually about it. | ||
| And I purposely, and I told you, normally it would be just the opposite, I'd review every page. | ||
| I purposely didn't even want to see it. | ||
| Because when somebody like you asked me a question about Project 2025, I can honestly say I've never seen it. | ||
| I have nothing to do with it. | ||
| I didn't read it, but I did hear some things in there that I would totally disagree with. | ||
| And I said to the people that were really the people behind it, you know who those people are, I said, you really had no right doing this to me because they used it as a soundbite, the Democrats. | ||
| And I don't know, it couldn't have been too effective because they got slaughtered, but they did use it as a soundbite. | ||
| But to people who see, oh, he's bringing in all of these people from Project 2025, he must know what it is. | ||
| Well, I don't know what it is, no. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| You still don't know what it is. | ||
| But I heard certain things that I didn't like. | ||
| And by the way, I heard certain things that are phenomenal. | ||
| Like what? | ||
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Like law and order, we want law and order. | |
| Okay? | ||
| Little things like, let's put prisoners in jail. | ||
| Let's not let people come out and raid every drugstore in Manhattan so that we have to put glass up and every store is going out of business. | ||
| Let me ask you about something you've referenced a couple of times in this interview. | ||
| I asked you last time we sat down for an interview if you were going to pardon yourself. | ||
| You said no. | ||
| But now that President Biden has pardoned his son Hunter, are you reconsidering might you pardon yourself? | ||
| I didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| I was given the option. | ||
| And the lawyers told me, a very specific lawyer, I don't have to go into who, but very high up in the administration said, sir, if you pardon yourself, you're going to look guilty. | ||
| And you did nothing wrong. | ||
| Oh, I had that option. | ||
| I could have saved myself a lot of legal fees, but it turned out that I was right. | ||
| Look at what's gone on. | ||
| Everything's being dropped. | ||
| I still have a Fonnie Willis Fonnie, a total hoax. | ||
| That's a total hoax. | ||
| It's all being dropped. | ||
| It's all been discredited. | ||
| It's been dropped. | ||
| There are those people that say, and this would be the first time in history, that all of those fake indictments, they were going after a political opponent. | ||
| There are those that say that I actually did better in the election because of it. | ||
| Now, that would be a first, I think you would agree, because normally that's like you go back to the microphones, you say, I'm leaving right now. | ||
| I will leave office. | ||
| I'm going back to my family and I will fight for my name. | ||
| Well, I had to fight for my name in public because I didn't leave office. | ||
| But no, I didn't want a pardon, and I didn't want to pardon myself. | ||
| I had the option to pardon myself. | ||
| And you don't want one now. | ||
| You're not going to pardon yourself now. | ||
| What do I need one for? | ||
| First of all, I've won almost all of the cases. | ||
| What if I didn't win are on resuscitation? | ||
| What if President Biden offered you a pardon? | ||
| Would you accept it? | ||
| I've never even thought about it. | ||
| I don't think he'll do it. | ||
| Look, if he did, he's the one that started this whole thing. | ||
| He got the Justice Department to go after me. | ||
| And the state cases are all being run by the Justice Department, which is illegal. | ||
| They had their people from the Justice Department work for Alvin Bragg in order to get something going. | ||
| They worked for Letitia James in the state. | ||
| He had his people go from the federal government and take lesser jobs in the state in order to get to the government. | ||
| And you know, he denies he had anything to do with it. | ||
| He can't deny it. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they were there. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| You know, you have a tendency to sort of like slough over things. | ||
| You just made a statement. | ||
| His person, the top, maybe the third or second or third person, left the federal government, the DOJ, and went to work for Letitia James. | ||
| And then, after they got that one started, went to work for the DA. | ||
| Let me ask you about some of this new reporting. | ||
| NBC News is then they were also visiting the White House in the Georgia case, and more is going to emerge from that. | ||
| Yeah, they tend to slough over things, all right? | ||
| The truths, the facts that are inconvenient for their false narratives. | ||
| Reporting that President Biden is considering giving preemptive pardons to the likes of Liz Cheney, Adam Schiff, and Anthony Fauci. | ||
| If President Biden doesn't issue those pardons, do you think they are going to wish that he had? | ||
| Are they going to be able to do that? | ||
| I can tell you this about Cheney, and she's a so-called Republican. | ||
| I think she hurt the Democrats terribly. | ||
| When I saw that Kamala put Cheney out on the campaign trail, I said, that's the end of Kamala. | ||
| I really did. | ||
| I thought it was a terrible move, especially if you're a Democrat. | ||
| But Cheney does something that's inexcusable, along with Thompson and the people on the unselect committee of political thugs and creeps. | ||
| So the Unselect Committee went through a year and a half of wait. | ||
| They deleted and destroyed all evidence that they found. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because Nancy Pelosi was guilty. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 troops. | ||
| You wouldn't have had a J6 because other people were guilty. | ||
| The people that said that I attacked two Secret Service agents in a car, I grabbed one around the neck. | ||
| I was then rebuffed and I grabbed the other one. | ||
| These are two of the toughest men anywhere on the planet. | ||
| They happen to be slightly younger than me, maybe, you know, just a little bit. | ||
| Let me just tell you. | ||
| They testified. | ||
| They said it was total. | ||
| And all of this stuff came out. | ||
| People. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he said bullshit. | ||
| Lied so badly. | ||
| Now, listen, this was a committee, a big deal. | ||
| I'm actually glad they beeped that out. | ||
| I'm actually glad they censored it because it makes it even, it makes it even cooler. | ||
| Lied. | ||
| And what did they do? | ||
| They deleted and destroyed a whole year and a half worth of testimony. | ||
| Do you know that I can't get, I think those people committed a major crime. | ||
| And Cheney was behind it. | ||
| And so was Benny Thompson and everybody on that committee for what they did. | ||
| Honestly, they should go to jail. | ||
| Shut up, Welker. | ||
| So you think Liz Cheney should go to jail? | ||
| For what? | ||
| Everyone on the committee used to jail. | ||
| I think everybody on the voted in favor of the. | ||
| Are you going to direct your FBI director and your attorney general to send them to jail? | ||
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Not at all. | |
| I think that they'll have to look at that, but I'm not going to, I'm going to focus on drill baby dreams. | ||
| When you say that, it carries weight, though. | ||
| You've tapped these people to lead the Justice Department and FBI. | ||
| They can do whatever they want. | ||
| Biden can give them a pardon if he wants to. | ||
| And maybe he should. | ||
| Just remember: unselect committee, a year and a half of sworn testimony, and after getting all of the testimony, they deleted it. | ||
| Wait, and they destroyed almost everything. | ||
| There's nothing left. | ||
| It's unprecedented. | ||
| And they denied it. | ||
| So let me just give a little context because this whole thing is lacking context. | ||
| When the Republicans took over the House in 2022, the January 6th committee didn't, according to their own words, delete a bunch of evidence. | ||
| But a bunch of evidence was deleted. | ||
| The biggest, most important evidence was deleted. | ||
| Totally illegal. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Completely illegal, deleting evidence, covering up a crime scene, tampering with a crime scene, tampering with evidence, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| And so that's what they did because when the Republicans took over the House, they took over that committee. | ||
| So they wanted to delete all the evidence. | ||
| The Democrats or whoever, I guess they're denying it, of course. | ||
| But that's the context here. | ||
| When the Republicans were about to take over the January 6th committee, all the evidence disappeared. | ||
| And so that's what they're talking about. | ||
| Trump saying that's a crime to delete evidence during an investigation to delete government evidence is illegal. | ||
| So that is a crime. | ||
| That's what he's talking about here. | ||
| But Welker won't provide the context or the facts. | ||
| There's nothing left. | ||
| It's unprecedented. | ||
| And they deny that. | ||
| If you do that in a civil case, you go to jail. | ||
| You know, they deny doing that. | ||
| And officials say that the order never came in for the National Guard. | ||
| On January 6th, let me ask you this about January 6th about the menu. | ||
| Benny Thompson wrote this. | ||
| Wow, this is unreal. | ||
| It's on record. | ||
| It's on record he requested the National Guard. | ||
| Multiple law enforcement witnesses. | ||
| It's on record they deleted all the evidence because it's gone. | ||
| And she just says, it never happened. | ||
| This is her Leslie Stahl moment. | ||
| But sir, there was no Hunter Biden laptop. | ||
| It was Russian disinformation. | ||
| But sir, but sir, nobody ever spied on you. | ||
| But sir. | ||
| Oh, but now it's now it's Kristen Welker. | ||
| Oh, they said they didn't do it. | ||
| Oh, they didn't do it. | ||
| They're innocent. | ||
| But sir, they're innocent. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The statement that he has destroyed all evidence. | ||
| Let me ask you this about January 6th. | ||
| I wish you could be a, if you, you know, you have such potential. | ||
| If you could be just non-biased, you hurt yourself so badly. | ||
| I'm telling you, they deleted and destroyed all the evidence. | ||
| Everyone knows it. | ||
| And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| No, I'm just saying they deny it. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Kristen, if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me. | ||
| And you know what I'd do? | ||
| I'd say, you got me. | ||
| They have done something so illegal. | ||
| They have a committee sworn to. | ||
| And because it was so bad, the only reason they did it is because the testimony turned out to be in favor of me. | ||
| Like Secret Service testified and disputed everything. | ||
| It made them into a bunch of liars. | ||
| Not Secret Service. | ||
| It made the people. | ||
| They got rid of it because it made Nancy Pelosi, the mayor of D.C., so many people look like criminals. | ||
| And I will tell you, it's illegal for them to delete and to destroy that evidence. | ||
| Let me ask you about January 6th in a different capacity, okay? | ||
| I think you're going to want to answer this question. | ||
| You promised to pardon those who attacked the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| Are you still vowing to follow through with that promise? | ||
| We're looking at it right now, most likely, yeah. | ||
| Those people have suffered long and hard, and there may be some exceptions to it. | ||
| I have to look. | ||
| But, you know, if somebody was radical, crazy, there might be some people from Antifa there. | ||
| I don't know, you know, because those people seem to be in good shape. | ||
| Whatever happened to Scaffold Man? | ||
| You know who Scaffold Man was? | ||
| He stood on a scaffold telling everybody to go and nothing happened to him. | ||
| Whatever happened to Ray Eps? | ||
| Now, I don't know anything about Ray Eps, but it was sort of strange the way he was talking. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| What happened to him? | ||
| Because the people that did very little, they arrested an old woman because she, I don't think she did anything. | ||
| They don't even know what she did. | ||
| These people have suffered. | ||
| Their lives have been destroyed. | ||
| And yet in Portland, where they burn down half the city, they burn it down all the time. | ||
| It's like a routine occurrence. | ||
| They don't do anything. | ||
| They attack the courthouse, federal courthouse. | ||
| You know, they always say federal building. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They destroyed the beautiful limestone exterior of the courthouse in Portland. | ||
| They killed people in Portland. | ||
| Seattle, people got killed in Seattle. | ||
| Seattle, they took over a big chunk of the city. | ||
| They took it over. | ||
| They took the city away. | ||
| Minneapolis, it looked like when they said this is a friendly protest, and yet over the poor slob from CNN, his shoulder, the entire city was burning down. | ||
| It looked like World War II. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| Wait, nothing happened. | ||
| They took over the police statement. | ||
| They took over the police station in Minneapolis. | ||
| They burned it down. | ||
| Nothing happened to anybody. | ||
| I just want to say. | ||
| And yet these people have been in jail, and I hear that jail is a hellhole. | ||
| They've done reports, and you would say that's true. | ||
| They've done reports. | ||
| This is the most disgusting, filthy place. | ||
| These people are living in hell. | ||
| And I think it's very unfair. | ||
| Most likely I'll do it very quickly. | ||
| Very quickly. | ||
| Okay, but some of them, 169 of them, have pleaded guilty to assaulting police officers. | ||
| Because they had no choice. | ||
| 900 pleaded guilty to other crimes. | ||
| They're also going to be eligible for a pardon from you. | ||
| Listen, it's a very tough system. | ||
| Do you know almost nobody? | ||
| I saw people that didn't even go into the building and they were convicted. | ||
| And you had the police saying, come on in, come on in. | ||
| I mean, you know, the police are saying, come on in, everybody. | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| They had people, you know, you have a lot of cameras. | ||
| They don't want to release the tapes. | ||
| They don't want to release the tapes. | ||
| But you're going to consider pardoning even those who've pleaded guilty to crimes, including assaulting police officers. | ||
| Sometimes they say, here's your choice. | ||
| You're not ruling it out. | ||
| Look, I know the system. | ||
| The system's a very corrupt system. | ||
| They say to a guy, you're going to go to jail for two years or for 30 years. | ||
| And these guys are looking, their whole lives have been destroyed. | ||
| For two years, they've been destroyed. | ||
| But the system is a very nasty system. | ||
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| Let's see. | ||
| Yeah, I want to look at everything. | ||
| We're trying to get into everybody's system. | ||
| You just nailed that. | ||
| I'm going to be acting very quickly. | ||
| Within your first 100 days, first day? | ||
| First day. | ||
| First day. | ||
| Yeah, I'm looking forward to issue these pardons. | ||
| These people have been there. | ||
| How long is it? | ||
| Three or four years. | ||
| You know, by the way, they've been in there for years. | ||
| And they're in a filthy, disgusting place that shouldn't even be allowed to be open. | ||
| Let's talk about your cabinet pics. | ||
| I know we started off talking about Pete Hagseth, but I just want to return to that very quickly. | ||
| Have you gotten assurances from senators that he's going to be confirmed? | ||
| Do you think he can make it? | ||
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| I think he will, yeah. | ||
| I've had a lot of senators call me up saying he's fantastic. | ||
| You don't drink yourself. | ||
| You've talked about how devastating drinking can be. | ||
| How concerned are you that the person who you picked for this top job at the Defense Department, at least according to those who've worked with him, has struggled with drinking? | ||
| But I've spoken to people. | ||
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| Oh, yes. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| And don't worry. | ||
| In the break, we're going to run four different beer ads and a booze ad. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| As if people in the media don't drink. | ||
| Like, she doesn't know that. | ||
| People that know him very well, and they say he does not have a drinking problem. | ||
| And, you know, he had a lot of knives out for him. | ||
| A lot of people don't want to see the military made better. | ||
| Let me ask you about former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| You picked her to be the director of national intelligence. | ||
| In 2017, she had two secret meetings with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. | ||
| Do you have questions or concerns about those meetings? | ||
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| And he's got bigger problems right now. | ||
| Do you think it makes it hard for her? | ||
| I mean, do you think it compromises her? | ||
| I met with Putin. | ||
| I met with President Nq of China. | ||
| I met with Kim Jong-un twice. | ||
| When you were president, when you were president, they weren't. | ||
| People meet, all these people meet. | ||
| I mean, I see some of the most dishonest people. | ||
| I'll tell you, the 51 agents that said that the laptop wasn't from Hunter. | ||
| It was from Russia. | ||
| What about them? | ||
| Tell me about them. | ||
| Do you think they did something wrong? | ||
| Do you think they were all so stupid that they thought that the laptop from hell? | ||
| Do you have confidence in Tulsi Gabbard? | ||
| I do. | ||
| So does, I mean, she's a very respected person. | ||
| Let me ask you about RFK Jr. | ||
| He has obviously talked to... | ||
| Oh, nice strategy, Kristen. | ||
| So she tries to dunk on Tulsi with some international intrigue angle. | ||
| Trump does the judo trick, throws it back on her, hits her with the laptop and the fake intelligence agencies, and then she bails out. | ||
| Yeah, she climbs out of the ring. | ||
| About his skepticism of vaccines. | ||
| He's expressed opposition to childhood vaccines. | ||
| Do you want to see childhood vaccines eliminated? | ||
| If they're dangerous for the children. | ||
| Look, when you look at some of the problems, when you look at what's going on with disease and sickness in our country. | ||
| Here's another perfect example. | ||
| She tries to pin him down in this moment, and he comes totally prepared. | ||
| She tries to pin him down so they can get the clip of Trump's against vaccines and then blame him if there's a measles outbreak or some bullcrap. | ||
| And he says, if it hurts the kids, who will disagree with that? | ||
| Beautiful response. | ||
| So this is a media hit piece. | ||
| Welker tries to pin him down on the vaccines. | ||
| He gives the perfect answer. | ||
| If it's hurting the kids. | ||
| So he doesn't get pinned down. | ||
| Then he gives the perfect answer and pins her down. | ||
| Because what are you going to be against stopping things that hurt children? | ||
| Something's wrong. | ||
| Are you talking about autism? | ||
| Well, if you take a look at autism, you go back 25 years. | ||
| Autism was almost non-existent. | ||
| It was, you know, one out of 100,000. | ||
| And now it's close to one out of 100. | ||
| Well, I mean, what's happening if they can find it? | ||
| Now, I did something the other night that was a little unusual. | ||
| At Mar-a-Lago, I called the drug companies, the top drug companies, and I called RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz and some of his people. | ||
| And I said, let's all get together and let's figure out where we're going because we're going to do a lot of things. | ||
| Number one, we're going to reduce prices because the middleman makes more money than the drug companies, in all fairness to the drug companies. | ||
| There's a middleman that nobody even knows who they are. | ||
| And you look at our drug prices, they're much higher than the prices for the same medicine, for the same stuff. | ||
| So we met and we met for a long time. | ||
| And we talked about pricing and we talked about vaccines, you know, in terms of what happens. | ||
| We talked about pesticides. | ||
| We talked about everything. | ||
| And I think a lot of good things are going to come from him. | ||
| And he's not going to upset any system. | ||
| He's not going to upset this. | ||
| He's not looking to reinvent the wheel totally. | ||
| But when you look at the numbers, we really don't have a very healthy country. | ||
| Well, sir, going back 25 years, studies show that there is no link between vaccines and autism. | ||
| And yet it sounds like you are open to the possibility of him looking. | ||
| I'm open to getting rid of that. | ||
| I think somebody has to find out. | ||
| If you go back 25 years ago, you had very little autism. | ||
| Now you have it. | ||
| Well, they say because they're better at identifying it. | ||
| Oh, here we go with the propaganda. | ||
| Something is seriously wrong with this woman. | ||
| Oh, they're better at identifying it. | ||
| And Trump talks about the middleman. | ||
| He has this debate so wrapped up. | ||
| By the way, think about what he's saying. | ||
| He's saying, we're going to force these people to come to the table and talk. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| Diplomatic. | ||
| We're going to bring everybody together and we're going to have a discussion about where we're going because we got problems. | ||
| We're going to figure this out. | ||
| But notice what she's just done here. | ||
| She's just stepped into her own trap. | ||
| Oh, well, that's because they're identifying it easier. | ||
| Oh, they're identifying it easier, right? | ||
| And then they're doing what? | ||
| They're prescribing them drugs. | ||
| So they change the diagnosis so they can prescribe them drugs, and then the drug companies get rich and the middleman get rich. | ||
| They do the same thing with ADHD. | ||
| Oh, your kids got ADHD. | ||
| Give them a drug. | ||
| Drug companies make out like bandits. | ||
| Children get hurt. | ||
| That's the rigged game. | ||
| So, yeah, oh, they diagnose more because they have an incentive to diagnose more, because they make money when the diagnosis comes down. | ||
| Oh, and by the way, these big pharmaceutical companies pay billions of dollars in network TV ads. | ||
| One in 100,000, and now it's one in 100. | ||
| That's a pretty bad number. | ||
| Childhood vaccines? | ||
| I mean, something is going on. | ||
| I don't know if it's vaccines. | ||
| Maybe it's chlorine in the water, right? | ||
| You know, people are looking at a lot of different things. | ||
| You know, childhood vaccines. | ||
| I want them to look at everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| So childhood vaccines have prevented about 4 million deaths around the world every night. | ||
| I think that's great. | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| Hey, look, I'm not against vaccines, the polio vaccines. | ||
| How much are the big pharmaceutical companies paying NBC News? | ||
| It is the greatest thing. | ||
| If somebody told me to get rid of the folio vaccine, they're going to have to work real hard to convince me. | ||
| I think vaccines are, certain vaccines are incredible, but maybe some aren't. | ||
| And if they aren't, we have to find out. | ||
| But when you talk about autism because it was brought up and you look at the amount we have today versus 20 or 25 years ago, it's pretty scary. | ||
| Well, again, scientists say that's because they've gotten better at identifying it and there's no link in stuff. | ||
| The drug companies are going to be working with RFK Jr. | ||
| And he's, you know, he's been an interesting guy to me. | ||
| I've watched him for 25 years, and he's been an interesting guy. | ||
| Let's talk about Elon Musk, another interesting person. | ||
| He's very interesting. | ||
| Last month, one of your allies said, quote, he's behaving as if he's a co-president. | ||
| Will you favor Elon Musk over other leaders of competitor companies like Jeff Bezos, Mary Barra? | ||
| No, Jeff Bezos called me. | ||
| We're having dinner. | ||
| As you know, Mark Zuckerberg came in. | ||
| We had a really nice dinner. | ||
| He asked to have dinner. | ||
| I had dinner with him. | ||
| I'm having dinner with everybody. | ||
| People like me now. | ||
| You know, it's something going on. | ||
| I said, would you have come to dinner with me if I lost? | ||
| I think the answer is no. | ||
| You know, I said nicely, kiddingly, of course, because I don't want to sound foolish. | ||
| But I say jokingly, would you have been here at dinner if I lost? | ||
| And the answer is probably not. | ||
| Look, I'm getting called by everybody. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| It's different than the first. | ||
| You know, when I won the first time, I wasn't nearly as popular as this. | ||
| And one thing that's very important in terms of the election, I love that I won the popular vote and by a lot. | ||
| If I did because they would go with the other one, they say. | ||
| She had that number. | ||
| She was going to try to pile on with that number at some point in the interview. | ||
| He beat her to it. | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| By the way, just understand what's happening. | ||
| Trump is actually open. | ||
| He's meeting everybody. | ||
| His phone lines are open. | ||
| He answers the phone. | ||
| He talks to people. | ||
| No other president has done that. | ||
| Biden doesn't do that. | ||
| Well, he didn't win the popular vote. | ||
| He won a lot of, you know, I won a lot of the Electoral College. | ||
| But they would always preface it by saying, now they say he won the popular vote and he won the Electoral College and he won all seven swing states. | ||
| That was a great election. | ||
| Very quickly, because we're going to talk about the election coming up, but you've tapped Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, to head up this Department of Government efficiency, which proposes cuts to the federal government. | ||
| I think a lot of people hear that and they get concerned about Medicare and Social Security. | ||
| Not going to have anything to do with that. | ||
| And the Fed spending. | ||
| You won't touch Medicare, Social Security. | ||
| No, I said to people, we're not touching Social Security, other than we make it more efficient, but the people are going to get what they're getting. | ||
| Okay, so the entitlements are not going to be available. | ||
| And we're not raising, and we're not raising ages or any of that stuff. | ||
| Off the table. | ||
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We won't do it. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Let's turn to foreign policy. | ||
| Should Ukraine prepare for less aid from the United States after you're coming into office? | ||
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Probably. | |
| Sure. | ||
| You've said you can end the war in Germany. | ||
| We're in for $350 billion, and Europe is in for $100 billion. | ||
| Why isn't Europe in for the same as us? | ||
| The one thing that should happen is Europe should come in for, they should equalize. | ||
| This is brilliant strategy by Trump. | ||
| So the mainstream media has brainwashed most of its audience to thinking, oh, we should just like the war on Ukraine. | ||
| They don't know the numbers. | ||
| They don't have the compare and contrast between other countries. | ||
| Trump just nailed her on that. | ||
| Hey, how come we pay $300 billion? | ||
| They pay $100 billion. | ||
| Oh, that's going to make Americans think. | ||
| Hey, Trump didn't even waiver when he said he would cut off the aid for Ukraine. | ||
| Oh, I thought everybody liked this. | ||
| I thought this was a good thing. | ||
| Very well played. | ||
| And, you know, Biden, all he had to do, like I did with NATO, I said, you got to pay your bills. | ||
| They weren't paying their bills. | ||
| And as you know, the Secretary General said President Trump got $600 billion, $640 to be exact. | ||
| And I used to use the $400 billion number. | ||
| He corrected me. | ||
| He said, no, you actually got $641 billion put in. | ||
| Because I said, you have to pay your bills. | ||
| We were paying for NATO. | ||
| And you know why I got the money? | ||
| Because I asked for it. | ||
| It wasn't that complicated. | ||
| Europe is in for a fraction. | ||
| And war with Russia is more important for Europe than it is for us. | ||
| It's important for everybody, but it's more important for Europe than it is for us. | ||
| And you've said you're not. | ||
| We have a little thing called an ocean in between us. | ||
| You said you can end the war in 24 hours. | ||
| You've even said you want to try to end it before you're sworn. | ||
| It's possible for it. | ||
| You're actively trying to. | ||
| Have you talked to President Putin? | ||
| No, I have not. | ||
| You haven't talked to President Putin since you've been elected? | ||
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No. | |
| Well, I don't want to say that, but I haven't spoken to him recently. | ||
| So you've spoken to President Putin since you've been elected? | ||
| I don't want to say that. | ||
| I don't want to say anything about that because I don't want to do anything that could impede the negotiation. | ||
| But you've, you know, I want to stop it. | ||
| Let me tell you what I have talked about. | ||
| Let me talk. | ||
| There are people being killed in that war at levels that nobody's ever seen before. | ||
| You have to go back to the Second World War. | ||
| And even that, if you take a look at, and you know what it is? | ||
| It's the soldiers largely. | ||
| The cities have been emptied out and demolished. | ||
| The country has been demolished. | ||
| If I won that election, which you know how I feel about it, I won't get into it because we don't need to start that argument. | ||
| I think it's an easy argument. | ||
| It was really proven even more conclusively by the win that I had on this one. | ||
| But you did not, sir. | ||
| Well, that's your opinion, but I disagree with it. | ||
| Had I assumed, kept control, number one, Israel wouldn't have happened. | ||
| Number two, Ukraine would have never happened. | ||
| It would have never happened, Ukraine, Russia. | ||
| But the number of people that are being killed, soldiers, young, beautiful soldiers, hundreds of thousands of people are being killed. | ||
| And you know, it's very interesting. | ||
| It's level, totally level, the battlefields, totally level. | ||
| You know what's happening? | ||
| The only thing that stops a bullet, you know what it is, is a body, a human body. | ||
| And the people that are being killed, hundreds of thousands on both sides. | ||
| Russia's lost probably 500,000. | ||
| Ukraine's lost higher than they say, probably 400,000. | ||
| You're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies laying all over fields. | ||
| It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen, and it should have never been allowed to happen. | ||
| Biden should have been able to stop it. | ||
| Sir, will the United States stay in NATO while you're in office? | ||
| In where? | ||
| NATO. | ||
| Do you commit that the United States will remain a member of NATO while you're in office? | ||
| Again, they have to pay their bills. | ||
| If they pay their bills, absolutely. | ||
| Not if they don't pay their bills. | ||
| But NATO's taken advantage of us because we would go, look, two things. | ||
| Number one, they take advantage of us on trade, meaning the European nations, okay, like terrible. | ||
| They don't take our cars. | ||
| They don't take our food product. | ||
| They don't take anything. | ||
| They think it's a disgrace. | ||
| And on top of that, we defend them. | ||
| So it's a double whammy. | ||
| So let me just tell you, I was able to get hundreds of billions of dollars put into NATO just by a tough attitude. | ||
| This is the kind of great stuff that the average American just doesn't hear. | ||
| And it's just nobody can disagree with what he's saying. | ||
| The countries, I'm not going to protect you unless you pay. | ||
| And they started paying. | ||
| And that amounted to more than $600 billion. | ||
| It's a big thing. | ||
| Otherwise, they wouldn't even be fighting. | ||
| They wouldn't have any money to fight. | ||
| If they're paying their bills, and if I think they're treating us fairly, the answer is absolutely. | ||
| I'd stay with NATO. | ||
| But if not, you would consider the possibility of the power. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Let's turn to the Middle East now, sir. | ||
| There are still American hostages being held in Gaza. | ||
| You said this week that if the hostages aren't released before Inauguration Day, quote, there will be all hell to pay. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| What exactly did you mean? | ||
| And do you still think that the hostages are alive? | ||
| I'm not a big believer in the fact that there are too many of them living, sadly, because I've seen the way they've been treated. | ||
| I talk about the young girl that was pulled by her hair violently and thrown into the back of a car like she was a sack of potatoes. | ||
| And I said, you know, that's hatred. | ||
| And then I said, how did that young girl do? | ||
| Beautiful young girl just dragged by her hair. | ||
| You remember, blood pouring all over her body. | ||
| You can imagine the parents thrown into the back of a car by some horrible guy. | ||
| And I said, how is she? | ||
| She's dead. | ||
| She died, sir. | ||
| I don't think you have as many. | ||
| I mean, I hate to say it. | ||
| I think you have far fewer hostages than people think. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| It's only my opinion, but I've been right on just about everything. | ||
| Are you going to pressure Prime Minister Netanyahu, with whom you have a very good relationship, to end the war in Gaza? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Sure. | ||
| And have you already started that process? | ||
| I want him to end, but you've got to have a victory. | ||
| People forget about October 7th. | ||
| That was as violent. | ||
| And you know what's happening? | ||
| I noticed that a lot of people are saying, oh, it never really happened. | ||
| That's like the Holocaust. | ||
| You know, you have Holocaust deniers. | ||
| Now you have October 7th and Irish that it just happened. | ||
| No, October 7th happened. | ||
| And I've seen the pictures. | ||
| It is what happened is horrible. | ||
| If China invades Taiwan on your watch, are you committed to defending the country? | ||
| I never say. | ||
| I never say. | ||
| Still won't say. | ||
| I never say because I have to negotiate things, right? | ||
| Can you just say if you'll defend? | ||
| I'm not saying if the U.S. military. | ||
| I'd prefer that they don't do it. | ||
| I have a very good relationship with President Xi. | ||
| We have been communicating with each other. | ||
| Since you were elected? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you sent that message? | ||
| Since like three days ago. | ||
| Yes, we communicate. | ||
| And you sent that message to him. | ||
| Don't need to. | ||
| We didn't talk about that. | ||
| We talked about other things. | ||
| But I have a very good relationship, and I hope he doesn't do it. | ||
| This week, a federal court upheld a law that could result in TikTok being banned. | ||
| You said you're going to rescue TikTok when you get into office. | ||
| Are you going to take steps to protect it? | ||
| And as you know, I use TikTok very successfully in my campaign. | ||
| I have a man named TikTok Jackie who's very effective, obviously, because I won youth by 30%. | ||
| All Republicans lose youth. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| Maybe it's changing. | ||
| And last time we were down 30% with youth. | ||
| This time we're up 35% with youth. | ||
| Mostly because young people are less educated and wise. | ||
| And I use TikTok, so I can't really, you know, I can't totally hate it. | ||
| It was very effective. | ||
| But I will say this: if you do do that, something else is going to come along and take its place. | ||
| And maybe that's not fair. | ||
| What they're doing, and really what the judge actually said was that you can't have Chinese companies. | ||
| In other words, they have the right to ban it if you can prove that the Chinese companies own it. | ||
| That's what the judge asked. | ||
| So are you going to try to protect TikTok just very quickly once you're in office? | ||
| I'm going to try and make it so that other companies don't become an even bigger monopoly. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because that's what happens. | ||
| We're winding down, and I know you have a plane to catch. | ||
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I do. | |
| This is your first interview since you won the election. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Congratulations to you. | ||
| I hope you do well with it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And sir, I don't have to tell you this because you've talked about it. | ||
| It comes at a time when the country is deeply divided. | ||
| And now you're going to be leading this country for the next four years. | ||
| For the sake of unifying this country, will you concede the 2020 election and turn the page on that chapter? | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Why would I do that? | ||
| But let me just tell you: when you say the country is deeply divided, I'm not the president. | ||
| Joe Biden's the president. | ||
| But you're going to be the president. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Just shut it down. | ||
| Concede 2020. | ||
| No, why would I? | ||
| Just shut it down. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| And then put it on Biden, the division. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| He judoed her on that. | ||
| He judoed her. | ||
| I'm not the president. | ||
| So when you say it's deeply divided, I agree. | ||
| But Biden's the president. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| And he has been a divider. | ||
| And you know where he divided it more than anything else, and it probably backfired on him, I think definitely, is weaponization. | ||
| When he weaponized the Justice Department and he went after his political opponent, me, he went after his political opponent violently because he knew he couldn't beat him. | ||
| And I think it really was a bad thing. | ||
| And it really divided our country. | ||
| Sir, Democrats have control of the White House now. | ||
| They didn't in 2020. | ||
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If they are going around stealing elections, when you say Democrats have control now? | |
| Of the White House. | ||
| So why didn't they steal this election since they have more power now? | ||
| Because I think it was too big to rig. | ||
| So you won't. | ||
| Too big to rig. | ||
| To the people who say that you're directing your Justice Department to investigate 2020, and they want to move on. | ||
| Japan is going to be precious resources. | ||
| Is that what you want them to do? | ||
| Just you know, I have the right to do that, but I'm not interested in that. | ||
| Oh, you're not. | ||
| You're not interested in that. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| I have the absolute right. | ||
| I'm the chief law enforcement officer. | ||
| You do know that. | ||
| I'm the president. | ||
| But I'm not interested in that. | ||
| You know what I'm interested in? | ||
| Drilling and getting prices down and stopping people from pouring into our border that come from prisons and mental institutions. | ||
| Last two questions here. | ||
| One of the things that made this campaign unprecedented and extraordinary were the horrific attempts against your life. | ||
| Two assassination attempts. | ||
| Do you feel safe going into the White House for the next four years? | ||
| Why? | ||
| I have confidence in Secret Service. | ||
| I know the people. | ||
| I got to know a lot of them, and I have confidence. | ||
| It was a bad moment. | ||
| Something shouldn't have happened. | ||
| But I have a lot of confidence, and they've really stepped it up. | ||
| They were restricted from giving the, look, I do a rally, and you were at many of them. | ||
| And I'd have 50,000 people. | ||
| Joe would have a rally and he'd have 30 people. | ||
| And he had more Secret Service than me. | ||
| My Secret Service was always asking for more manpower/slash woman power. | ||
| They were asking for more and more and more, and they couldn't get it. | ||
| I'm not blaming them, really, because they were always fighting for more people. | ||
| And they wouldn't. | ||
| Now, boy, do we have it? | ||
| I know it was hard on your entire family. | ||
| What can people expect from the First Lady in this second administration? | ||
| What role will she play? | ||
| She obviously had her Be Best campaign. | ||
| She's very liked, loved, and she's very respected. | ||
| And she's a very solid person. | ||
| And she devotes a lot of time to helping children. | ||
| You know what she does. | ||
| And she's got her Be Best deal that is incredible what she's done. | ||
| The one thing I say, whether it's First Lady or my children, my children did such a good job, and they were treated very badly by the press and others. | ||
| Ivanka was unbelievable what she did. | ||
| And all she wanted to do is one thing, get people jobs. | ||
| She could have been the UN Secretary. | ||
| I said to her, she would have been unbelievable. | ||
| She's got the whole package for that, including right up there. | ||
| She's as smart as she didn't want, she said, Daddy, I want to work on getting people to, you know, she'd go to Walmart, she'd go to ex such. | ||
| She produced millions of jobs for people. | ||
| Not glamorous. | ||
| Most people didn't know she did it. | ||
| And she was always being excoriated. | ||
| And I said to my kids, don't come in. | ||
| Don't come in. | ||
| It's just. | ||
| You said to them, don't you? | ||
| I said to them, yeah. | ||
| But will you miss having them there? | ||
| Will it feel different? | ||
| They were your top advisors. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I'll miss them, and they're really competent. | ||
| But I say, just go have fun, do your business, do whatever you want to do, but don't come in. | ||
| Because no matter what they did, they did such a great job. | ||
| Although I have to say, Lara did a phenomenal job as the head of the Republican National Committee, along with Michael. | ||
| What will the First Lady's role be, do you think? | ||
| Will she continue her Be Best campaign? | ||
| She's a very elegant First Lady. | ||
| She was a very successful woman before that in the modeling and other things, but in the modeling, very successful. | ||
| The press, I can't say treated her unfairly. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because she's very popular. | ||
| You would think if the press was unfair, like to me, the press was obviously unfair to me. | ||
| The press, no president has ever gotten treated by the press like I was. | ||
| And yet I got more votes than any Republican candidate in history by far. | ||
| It's not even close. | ||
| So you say, what's that all about? | ||
| The press has to straighten itself out because honestly, it's lost all credibility. | ||
| When that can happen, based on the press, I should have gotten no votes, none. | ||
| And yet I got the highest number ever. | ||
| And the reason is because I'm able to go on a show, even like yours, even though you're very hostile, I'm able to go on a show like yours. | ||
| No, you are. | ||
| Well, hopefully you thought it was a fair interview. | ||
| We covered a lot of policy grounds. | ||
| It's fair only in that you allowed me to say what I say, but you know, the answers, the questions are, you know, pretty nasty. | ||
| But look, because I've seen you interview other people like Biden. | ||
| I've never interviewed President Biden. | ||
| When I say you, I'm talking metaphorically. | ||
| I've seen George Stephanopoulos interview Biden. | ||
| And he's just a very good person. | ||
| All the fake news people are replacing. | ||
| It's the softest interview. | ||
| I've seen CNN interview him. | ||
| They give this interview. | ||
| That was a very subtle insult he just gave her. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| It's like, hey, you're all the same. | ||
| You're not separating yourself from anyone else. | ||
| You think doing this interview separates you from anyone else? | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| You're just like the rest. | ||
| It's a whole different deal. | ||
| I don't understand why. | ||
| You know, you would think the press would like to see strong borders, great education, a powerful military so we have a country left and all these different things. | ||
| And somehow they don't want to see that. | ||
| Let me ask you, hopefully you think this interview was fair. | ||
| We spent a lot of time talking about your policy in your second administration. | ||
| I want to ask you, sir, one final question. | ||
| What do you want to say to Americans who didn't support you in this campaign? | ||
| I'm going to treat you every bit as well as I have treated the greatest MAGA supporters. | ||
| There's never been anything like MAGA in the history of this country. | ||
| These people are so dedicated to making America great again. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| And I'm going to treat them just the same as I treat MAGA. | ||
| We're going to treat everybody good. | ||
| We want success for our country. | ||
| We want safety for our country. | ||
| You know, our country's under threat, as you know. | ||
| We have a tremendous threat militarily because of the power of weapons and weaponry. | ||
| It is a tremendous threat. | ||
| Nobody talks about it, but it's a tremendous threat. | ||
| I want to treat everybody the same. | ||
| I want to treat them well. | ||
| And at the end of this four years, and I have a big head start because I was there for four years fairly recently. | ||
| A lot of bad things were done during the four years that I wasn't there. | ||
| And mostly in what they've done in terms of our reputation overseas, our reputation is so bad, so shot. | ||
| I got to bring it back. | ||
| And I also have to, I have to bring back civilization to our country. | ||
| Our country is a crime pot, and we have to get rid of crime. | ||
| We have so many things to do. | ||
| We have to do the prices. | ||
| We have to do all of that. | ||
| But we have to get the criminals out of our country. | ||
| We have to bring down crime. | ||
| People have to be able to walk across the street and buy a loaf of bread without being shot. | ||
| And that's going to happen. | ||
| But what I say to them is, I love you, and we're going to all work together. | ||
| And we're going to bring it together. | ||
| And you know what's going to bring it together, success? | ||
| I saw that just prior to COVID coming in. | ||
| I had polls that were the highest anyone. | ||
| McLaughlin and Fabrizio said, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, if they came back from the dead and they ran as president and vice president, it couldn't beat you, sir. | ||
| We were doing so well. | ||
| And I was getting along with the left. | ||
| Let's call it the left. | ||
| We'll be nice. | ||
| Okay, we're just going to call it. | ||
| But I was getting along with people that you would consider liberal or progressive, as they like to say, at levels that I never thought was possible. | ||
| And you know what it was, success? | ||
| Success was bringing the country together. | ||
| And that's what I want to do. | ||
| We'll leave it there unless you'd like to say anything more. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you very much for the honor in which the first interview. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thanks for watching. | |
| Stay updated about bringing all right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| This was a great performance from Donald Trump, one of his best interview performances. | ||
| I give him an A. Welker came loaded. | ||
| She tried to pin him down on multiple issues. | ||
| She failed. | ||
| Trump judoed her on a couple of gotcha moments. | ||
| He judoed her and put her in the trap that she was setting for him. | ||
| And I would say, let's just say for the average American watching that, it was very positive. | ||
| For the neutral American watching that, it was very positive. | ||
| For the maybe uneased, let's say, American watching that, I think it was very easing. | ||
| It was just a strong interview. | ||
| It was just a strong interview. | ||
| So he gets an A. Well done. | ||
| Welker gets a, I won't give her an all-out F because unintentionally, she set Trump up for a major victory by posturing herself against him. | ||
| So instead of being neutral, she went against him, and that gave Trump a little more juice, a little more bonus. | ||
| But then that subtle, you're no different than every other fake news interviewer. | ||
| That was brilliant. | ||
| That one really, that'll haunt her forever. | ||
| And it's true. | ||
| At the end of the day, it's just absolutely true. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| Full Trump Kristen Welker interview. | ||
| In case you didn't hear, InfoWars lives on. | ||
| We will be on tomorrow. | ||
| There is another hearing set. | ||
| We might know the news when I'm on air. | ||
| The hearing is for 1 o'clock p.m. | ||
| Central, and they're going to be hearing from more witnesses, et cetera. | ||
| And that'll be going on while I'm hosting the InfoWars War Room at 3 p.m. Central Time. | ||
| So there could be more developments tomorrow or the saga goes on. | ||
| But we will be live on InfoWars tomorrow at 3 p.m. | ||
| Central. | ||
| Thanks, everybody, that tuned in tonight. | ||
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