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OSL 76 - I've Filed A FOIA Request To Secret Service And Local Law Enforcement
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Owen Schroyer Live, episode 76.
I filed a FOIA request to Secret Service and local law enforcement for answers into the Trump assassination attempt coming to you as always through the Owen.gold microphone.
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Owen Schroyer Live, episode 76.
I filed a FOIA request to Secret Service and local law enforcement for answers into the Trump assassination attempt coming to you through the Owen.gold microphone.
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So what's going to happen tonight is we're going to be joined by my attorney, Alexis Anderson, who officially filed this today.
And I'm going to read off.
It's going to be a little, it's going to be a little droning, but I'm going to read off everything we have requested in this Freedom of Information Act.
And a lot of this stuff is obvious, the answers that we need, but there's going to be some important tidbits.
And so I just want you guys to get all the information from this FOIA request into Secret Service and local law enforcement so that you can know what to expect.
Or if they do reject us, then you can see what it is that they're trying to hide.
And nothing in here is really out of the ordinary, but we'll get more into that when my attorney joins me just momentarily.
So we've got that coming up.
I've got another announcement that I'm going to be making tonight.
But the thrust of this live transmission is going to be the FOIA request and the details therein.
And we'll talk to my lawyer about kind of what research she did into how to phrase this, what to request, what she's expecting.
And that's how this one is going to go.
And so I got to give big ups to Bob Barnes and the 1776 Law Center because they made this happen.
Now, this is my legal team now.
And so when you go to owndefense.com and support my legal fund, this is who you are supporting, the 1776 Law Center.
So it's not just in defense of me, as I am constantly in court defending myself.
I'm in another legal defense case right now, but it's also that we can go on the offense when people defame me or when we need to file FOIA requests like today.
So Lexis Anderson from the 1776 Law Center joins me now.
All right, Lexis, I want to let the audience get caught up here and I want to let the audience build before I just actually read the Freedom of Information Act that you filed today.
But before we get into that, just kind of go into the thought process that went into this, go into the research that went into this, and what made you determine to make these requests in the legal filing today.
Absolutely.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited to get this out today.
You know, the sooner the better in this situation.
But yeah, I think, you know, it was about a week ago, well, a week ago, exactly, when they started doing the hearings in front of the Congressional Oversight Committee.
And I think it became very clear to everybody that we were not going to get adequate answers on the attempted assassination of President Trump.
And so it was then that I was thinking, you know, FOIA is such an underutilized tool for the public.
These agencies are supposed to work for us.
They, you know, supposed to protect our chosen representatives.
And this was an absolute fail, an intentional failure.
And there were a lot of answers that we weren't getting.
And so I started looking into filing our FOIA request and thinking about all of the questions that were still left on the table.
And clearly, they have documentation of all this.
They've had more than two weeks to investigate this, more than two weeks of communications.
And even before that, you know, as you'll get into, all the safety plans that were implemented ahead of time, all of this is critical to figuring out what happened and at what point things were changed to allow this to occur.
And so, you know, you and I have been working for the last week to put together this list.
And it was really just aggregating everybody's outstanding questions and thinking about what sorts of records that we could request that would help answer them.
So, you know, we'll go through there.
There's a lot we've requested here.
And I can imagine this would be a hefty, hefty production if we get a lot of it.
Well, I'm going to read all the requests in the document.
Like I said, I just started the broadcast, so I'm going to let the audience build here on Rumble and on X so as many people can get this information as possible.
But just some kind of introduction to this.
How many times has Secret Service been FOIAed?
A lot, actually.
You know, I was looking back.
They published records a few years old, all the requests that they've received.
And I just happened to look at 2021.
And there were dozens of FOIA requests on January 6th alone after that, a lot of times from media, sometimes from the public.
This happens a lot.
And, you know, some are successful.
Usually it's a combination of, you know, granted and denied.
And, you know, the ones that are granted, sometimes we see that in the news and people get really great success from FOIA requests.
I mean, the FOIA request that they did against Pfizer, where we have all those damning documents, that that was a huge success story.
You know, part of the problem is a lot of people when they get denied aren't willing to keep fighting and keep pushing and really you know take this as far as it can go um and so you know we don't see it used as much because they do they do make it difficult you know they come back they deny you and people either don't have the resources or the know-how to keep fighting especially if you're just a person republican refreshing records that might be controversial or they don't want you to see so um they they do get foyed a lot whether or
they actually comply with, you know, the law and how they're supposed to respond.
I'm not quite sure how often people actually get what they're looking for.
Well, I mean, obviously, they're going to try to stonewall as much as this information as possible.
Do you know if anybody else has FOIA'd for the information that we have requested?
I don't.
I do know that America First Legal had submitted a FOIA shortly after, I mean, a couple days after the assassination attempt.
I think only on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
At least that's what I saw.
And I saw the only news story that I saw about it was that Secret Service had tried to stonewall them, saying that it wasn't as much in the public interest to necessitate turning it over as quickly.
They were trying to delay the whole thing and not turn it over within the 20 days or however long they have to respond.
So that was the one story I heard was America First Legal.
And to give them credit, they do a lot of great work with FOIA as well.
I mean, dozens filed by them.
But in terms of the safety plans and everything that we're asking for here, I haven't seen anybody else request it.
That doesn't mean they haven't and maybe they're just waiting to see if they're getting information to go public with it.
The best, the only other request that I've seen was, oh my gosh, maybe you can help me, that congressman who got some of that body cam footage.
Chuck Grassley?
Oh, Grassley.
Yes.
And so that wasn't exactly a FOIA request.
That was just, you know, a personal request to FBI and Department of Homeland Security to get some of those records.
But in terms of FOIA from the public, from an advocacy group, I haven't seen anything else like ours.
Well, that's a true game breaker then.
And I give you big credit for that.
I give the 1776 Law Center big credit for that as well.
Because it's a pretty fair assumption to make.
I mean, I wouldn't even say it's an assumption.
I would say it's pretty much a guarantee that there's definitely at least other body cam footage from that day at a minimum.
And then I would assume just from other experts I've talked to, people in law enforcement and security.
Now, the Secret Service claims they don't have any radio communications recorded.
Could be true.
If that's true, then that's just a dereliction of their duty.
But it's very likely that the local law enforcement does have their radio communications or some form of audio from that day.
So these could be two key bits of information that we could get access to.
Now, I am curious because what's kind of developed in the last week is it looks like the local law enforcement, the police from Pennsylvania are more willing to talk to America, the media answer questions.
Maybe they have questions of their own versus the complete silence, the virtual silence that we've gotten from Secret Service.
So could we have an instance here where we get cooperation from the local law enforcement, the police in Pennsylvania, and then don't from Secret Service?
Is that a potential situation?
Absolutely, because actually, so the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act, is a federal law.
And so we filed under FOIA to the Secret Service as a federal agency.
We filed under Pennsylvania law with the Butler Bureau of Police.
And so absolutely.
And I've noticed that too.
I mean, I haven't done as deep of a dive as you have, I'm sure, but I've noticed too that they've more information has come out from them.
They've sat down with some interviews for some interviews.
And, you know, their reputation is on the line here too.
And, you know, I could definitely see more cooperation from them just to say, you know, hey, maybe they didn't realize what was going on that day.
Maybe they tried to do the job.
I don't know.
And so I think if they respond and Secret Service doesn't, which I think is a very likely potential, I think that's a story in and of itself, right?
That these, and we'll know too that these records exist.
You can't tell me that the Butler Police Department has records that Secret Service and the FBI don't have.
And so I think it'll be really interesting and sort of undermine the Secret Service's case if they try to fight this, if the Butler Police Department complies and gives us some of this information.
So, you know, we had originally talked about you and I FOIAing the Secret Service.
We expanded it to the Butler Police Department for that exact reason because I'm sure they have these same records, if not a lot of them.
And, you know, I'd like to see what they were told too ahead of time and on the day of and after the fact.
So I think it'll be interesting to see the difference in how the two agencies respond.
How quickly could we hear back in response to this?
So the Butler Police Department has to respond to us within five days.
They don't necessarily have to turn everything over in five days.
They can give us, you know, tell us what they're granting, what they're going to deny.
A lot of times FOIA records come out on a rolling basis.
So it could take, you know, up to weeks or sometimes months to get information, depending on what you work out.
But they're going to respond first.
I mean, so five business days, we'll be hearing from them early next week.
The Secret Service has 20 days to respond to us.
And again, same deal with the Secret Service.
They'll have to respond, but they won't necessarily have to turn anything over by then.
So, you know, I think that the timeline is there is also interesting too, because if the Butler PD complies with our request, that puts Secret Service in quite a pickle because then there's information out there and they haven't, you know, they haven't had a chance to reject us yet.
So there's a chance that myself, the 1776 Law Center, whatever avenues we choose to put this out, I mean, obviously I'll be reporting this on InfoWars and anybody that wants to have me or yourself as a guest, there's a chance we could have information as soon as next week, you're saying.
Yes.
Yes.
If they can get records together and get things back to us in a timely manner, then absolutely.
And it depends on the volume of information they have, you know, and how easily, but this is like, this is fresh, you know, so it might take time to sort it all out and get it to us.
But yeah, I mean, they could start rolling over records for things that they're willing to turn over as early as next week.
Well, and I'm hoping, and again, this is this is kind of the tactic here.
I'm hoping that, as you said, the local police, the local law enforcement, their reputation is on the line here as well.
And it seems like they care more to protect that than the Secret Service.
And so maybe they kind of have an attitude at this stage, which is, look, you know, we want to cooperate as much as possible.
We have nothing to hide.
You know, the assassination attempt, we don't want it to fall on us.
We want people to trust us and know that we were trying our best.
But, hey, look, here's everything we have from this day.
You can reach your own conclusions.
I mean, I could see them wanting to cooperate as much as they possibly can with this, given the fact that you've had multiple police officers from that day do television interviews.
You had them, I believe it was local law enforcement that shared the footage with Chuck Grashley.
So there's already been a level of cooperation from the Pennsylvania law enforcement side where we've had nothing from Secret Service.
So they might have an inclination to cooperate with this as soon as possible.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think that's a great, there's a great possibility that that's the way it goes.
And like you said, they're not being invasive like Secret Service is.
So that leads me to believe, you know, they would probably act in better faith to request like this than Secret Service would.
I mean, that's what I'm expecting at least.
And, you know, they'll have a lot of records on this.
They've done multiple rallies with President Trump's team, multiple other rallies for other people protected by Secret Service.
So, you know, they've, this is not their first rodeo.
They'll have records of safety protocols, all that stuff.
So I think all of that's going to be really interesting to get from them.
And I hope that there's, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that, you know, I can't under, I can't even fathom how that they would justify not giving to us.
Yeah, or again, they might be happy to give us what we requested just to kind of be like, hey, look, we're cooperating.
We want to clear our name.
We want to clear our reputation.
Whereas Secret Service appears to have the motive to stay on the hush-hush about whatever happened on their end that day.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, I'm sure, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of people at Butler PD, just from based off what we've seen, that have their own questions about how all of this transpired.
And I hope that that translates into willingness to cooperate with the people who are trying to figure it out as well.
Well, and generally speaking, because I know you did some background research before filing this, I would guess that local law enforcement police officers, those local jurisdictions are more willing to cooperate with FOIAs than Secret Service, just generally speaking.
Is that accurate?
That was my impression.
It's a little difficult.
They don't have the same public records on whether things are granted or denied, at least not that I was able to find.
But yeah, I mean, my understanding, you know, based off of just what FOIA knowledge I have is that sometimes going through the local jurisdictions, the state jurisdictions can be a little bit easier to get access to things.
All right.
Well, like I said, I'm just kind of letting the live audience build up here as we're live on X and live on Rumble as well.
We're speaking to Lexis Anderson, my legal representation in my defense and now legal offense as well from 1776lawCenter.com.
And so folks, just so you know, this is the work that the 1776 Law Center is doing with the great Bob Barnes.
And when you go to owindefense.com, this is the type of work that you are funding as well.
So it's not just defending me when I get ridiculously sued, frivolous lawsuits flying left and right at me.
Not only does this work to defend me, we've now decided we're also going on the offense.
And we've also had success stories with people issuing retractions.
And now we're filing this FOIA request.
So the 1776 Law Center, Owen Schroyer, putting together a good team.
And that's what you fund when you go to 1776lawCenter.com or owindefense.com.
Lexis, I'm going to just wait another minute or two here before I read off all of the demands we make in the FOIA for the live audience to catch up.
But just generally speaking, talk about some of the victories that you guys have had at 1776 Law Center.
Yeah, so we have at this point dozens of vaccine mandate cases.
We've managed to get settlements for a lot of our clients so far, successful outcomes.
And so that's been really great.
We have a lot of those that we're continuing to litigate.
We have a lot of really great opinions on religious freedoms come out of that.
We're sort of seeing the tide turn in the court system right now toward, you know, in favor of religious freedoms in the workplace because they were under such attacks during COVID.
So that's been really great to see.
On the DEI front, we actually have a new lawsuit that we filed against Red Hat, which is a subsidiary of IBM.
And so I don't know if you remember, James O'Keefe had done that great expose of IBM and them talking about their diversity quotas.
And essentially, we filed a lawsuit for racial and gender discrimination for firing one of their white male employees.
And so we're kind of fighting on the DEI front, which will be interesting.
That's one of the first lawsuits that's sort of been initiated in that space in that context.
Let's see, we have several ongoing cases for Amos Miller, the Amish farmer out in Pennsylvania.
They're still battling, but we were able to keep them at bay from stopping him from selling all of his raw milk products, which was a great win.
We're still fighting that out and appealing their awful decisions on some of his, what he can and can't sell out there.
So we're all over the place.
But those are kind of the primary cases that I'm working on.
And then this is a really fun one for me to take up as well.
I mean, all these cases are so huge.
You know, we're talking about medical freedom.
We're talking about food freedom.
And now we're talking about freedom of information.
So, I mean, these are all big cases.
And so that's why I'm glad to team up with 1776 Law Center to go after this.
And I'm reading some of the comments now.
People are already saying that they don't expect Secret Service to cooperate.
Hey, look, maybe Secret Service doesn't cooperate, but that's why we went after local law enforcement for information too.
I mean, I get the feeling that the local law enforcement is going to want to cooperate, at least to some extent.
And so before I do get into the exact details of this, so I mean, what can Secret Service do?
Can they just deny it?
Can they just say no?
I mean, how is that even legal?
They can.
They certainly can try to deny it.
Now, there are a number, well, I say a number.
There are a few exceptions that they could invoke to try to keep information from the public, but those are fairly narrowly construed.
I think there are a total of seven exceptions that they could or seven justifications for denying requests.
Now, as I mentioned previously, you know, a lot of times when they deny requests, people don't continue to fight it.
But FOIA litigation is a very, very real thing.
I mean, that's how we got the fired Pfizer documents from FOIA.
Of course, Pfizer didn't want to hand all those over.
They tried to say that they wouldn't give them to the requesters for 75 years.
And the judge had to step in and say, no, that's ridiculous.
You need to start giving them their documents that they asked for now.
So, you know, we're not afraid of getting into that sort of fight.
They can certainly try to refuse to hand over these documents.
If they do so to such a crazy extent, then fine.
We'll take it up in a court and let a judge decide.
You know, a judge doesn't have any, well, I hope doesn't have any sort of stake in that, you know?
And so they can deny it outright to a certain extent.
But, you know, if they're up against someone who's willing to fight it out, then really it goes to a court.
All right.
I want to get into the actual details.
So folks, just get ready.
There's a lot here.
I'm going to read directly from our FOIA request.
There's a lot in it.
And then, Alexis, if you just want to interrupt me and stop me to focus on any of the bullet points that I have here as I have it up on the screen now, the PDF that you sent me.
So if you want to stop me at any point to maybe go into something further, I'm just going to read from all of the bullet points.
This is to Secret Service.
This is the Freedom of Information Act that we have filed myself, 1776 Law Center, Lexis Anderson with us on the phone.
To the Secret Service, all records maintained by Secret Service related to President Donald Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania and his attempted assassination, including but not limited to all records related to the selection of the date and the venue of the event.
All records related to the preparation or planning for the event.
All records reflecting procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event.
Intelligence briefings and officer safety bulletins that were distributed in advance of the event.
Now, this is actually curious, bullet point D here, because the local police said Secret Service refused to meet with them that morning.
Yeah, that came out this week, didn't it?
That's fascinating.
And so, you know, we did request communications between them.
But yeah, I'd like to hide.
I think, but again, they should have spread out or spread some safety protocols or safety plans ahead of time.
So that's what D sort of goes to.
But isn't that interesting?
I mean, how do you not meet with the local law enforcement?
It's completely unheard of.
That's absurd.
And didn't they not even, you know, they didn't even do final walks of the event or even start prepping until just before.
I mean, to not come up with some sort of plan after everything is set and situated and you have an idea of the layout and the vantage point of such a venue.
I mean, is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah.
And the local police officers even said it was unheard of for them to not do that walkthrough or not have that meeting.
We continue.
And so I don't know, maybe this gives us an answer as to why.
We continue.
All records concerning the U.S., excuse me, the use of U.S. government funds to provide security and or any other services to President Trump and any companions during his travel and campaign event.
All records related to the number of Secret Service agents and personnel and the identity of those individuals who approved the security plan for the event.
Again, getting into the identity of the people that planned this, I think, is important.
Well, something that jumped out at me when Ken Cheadle was on the stand during the hearing was that she was incredibly vague about who was signing off on these security plans.
Obviously, you're behaving.
I mean, she gave vague.
That would be insinuating that she answered in some way, shape, or form.
Yeah.
Aside from saying that she apparently never signed or looked at the security plans, we didn't get any other information from her.
But yeah, she alluded to the fact that there were several people that signed it, but it fluctuates and it depends.
And there's a whole group of people who have to look at it.
Well, I want to know exactly who signed on the dotted line for these and how many iterations there were and whether they changed throughout the preparation for the event.
Because, you know, one of the outstanding questions is, was this a spur of the moment, you know, order to stand down on the day of?
Was this planned in writing ahead of time?
And who signed off on it and what did they sign off on?
So I think that one, you know, for the security plan, that one's really interesting because I want to see whose signatures are on there.
Well, and you know what's going to be even crazier about this because it's been alluded to by others, including former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino on his show, but other former Secret Service agents have gone public as well.
The individual, if Kim Cheadle was truly ignorant to all this, and let's just give her the benefit of the doubt for this conversation.
If Kim Cheadle was truly hands-off for this event, then it would have fallen onto Ron Rowe.
Well, Ron Rowe is now in charge of the Secret Service.
He's now the one that replaced Kim Cheadle.
Great.
That's great.
Well, this is the worry with, you know, I understand the congressional hearings.
I appreciate some of the good questions asked, but they have their pound of flesh now.
She has resigned, which is what most of them wanted.
And the fear is, you know, I know there's another committee looking into it, but the fear is that for a lot of people, that's going to be enough.
For a lot of our Congress men and women, that's going to be, that's going to be fine.
You know, it's business as usual after that.
And then, so, you know, that's, that's what we're aiming to get at here is, is there's still, there's still very obvious issues and corruption and other people that were involved.
And especially, like you said, she wasn't the one who signed off on this, then who did?
Well, and let me also say that I, folks, I believe that if this was truly, let's say there was a deep-seated plan to have Trump killed that day, then he was supposed to be dead today.
And so they're reeling right now in their failed assassination attempt.
And so we need to go in now.
We need to go in while their defenses are weak because it'd be one thing if Trump was dead, then it'd be like, okay, they succeeded in their mission.
Whatever gets exposed after that, they really almost don't even care about.
They got Trump.
That would be all they cared about.
Well, they didn't get Trump and now they're reeling as they're being exposed in the aftermath.
So that's going to be a very important one to talk about who signed off on all of this or who was responsible for the communication failures.
And if it's Ron Rowe, well, then now he needs to be called for a hearing and he probably needs to resign next.
All right, so let's move on.
All records related to the number of Secret Service agents and personnel and the identity of those individuals responsible for attendance at the event.
I may have just repeated that.
I'm sorry.
This is the big stuff.
All video footage, including but not limited to surveillance camera footage, helicopter footage and body camera footage recorded at or near the site of event by Secret Service agents, law enforcement, or any other member of security present at the event.
All video footage obtained by or in the possession of Secret Service recorded at or near the site of the event by members of the public or attendees at the event.
All records of communications between Secret Service personnel on July 13th, 2024, including but not limited to radio communications, text messages, and emails.
All records of communications with Butler City Police Department or any other state or local law enforcement agency in preparation for, during, and following the event.
All right, a couple of highlights as we get into this.
All right, you know, the video stuff, the audio stuff, that kind of speaks for itself.
But here's an interesting note.
And this is probably, this is going to be an interesting one.
So it's, it's, I know this from experience.
It's more likely that the federal government is in possession of any third-party videos from that day.
And I know this from personal experience because whenever I go out, we have security that has body cam footage.
And so we've been subpoenaed for that body cam footage before.
And so we turn it over, but that goes to the federal government.
That doesn't go to local law enforcement.
So it's likely that there are people there that had security footage, at least one of their own.
It's likely that there's other, there's just other footage that people have that maybe the federal government has that local police don't.
So when the feds take over these investigations, they get all of that third-party footage almost immediately if they're doing a serious investigation.
So how do we get access to that if Secret Service denies us?
That we might have to fight out via litigation.
If the Butler Police Department really doesn't have it, and you know, that that's something Secret Service, I could very easily believe that they would not want to give up, especially because, you know, especially that third-party footage, like you said, because they have zero control over what was filmed at that point.
But I can guarantee you they would want to know exactly what people saw and exactly what kind of evidence is out there, especially as you said that they're panicking right now and trying to clean all this up.
And so we know we have it.
So that part might just take litigation if the local law enforcement doesn't have it, unfortunately.
All right, moving on again, this is Lexis Anderson with us from the 1776 Law Center.
We're going through the text of our FOIA request to get this information regarding to the assassination attempt on President Trump.
All records related to previous requests made by President Trump, his staff or campaign team for Secret Service or support from January 2021 through the date of processing.
All records or documents maintained by Secret Service related to President Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania 2016 regarding the preparation or planning for the event, procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event, the number and identity of Secret Service agents and personnel who approved the security plan for the event, and the number and identity of USS agents and personnel on duty at the event.
I think maybe it's worth translating this.
So basically, in bullet point three, you're trying to determine what the different approach was between 2016 and 2024.
Is that correct?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Because he had a rally in 2016 at the exact same venue.
And so I would like to see, you know, did they have a Secret Service team stationed on top of that building?
What was the protocol?
How many agents were there?
Who were those agents?
What was the breakdown?
Yeah, exactly.
I want to be able to compare and see because I feel like there's a good chance that there is a stark difference in the Secret Service personnel and the layout of those personnel in 2016 versus 2024.
And I would say the big smoking gun, if you will, no pun intended in the difference is going to be who was on the roof.
Was there Secret Service on that roof in 2016?
And then why not in 2024?
My assumption would be that's going to be the big story should they cooperate here.
All records or documents maintained by Secret Service related to President Trump's campaign event at the Pittsburgh Butler Regional Airport in October 2020 regarding the preparation and planning for the event, the personnel numbers at the event, all correspondence to or from former director Kimberly Cheadle from January 2021 through the date of processing related to the protection of and the secret service detail assigned to President Trump.
You know, let me just pause right there for a second.
I'm curious.
It would be my understanding that there's really no way to do this.
If Cheadle lied under oath and was using an encrypted messaging service to communicate with people about business, is there even any way to figure that out?
Is there any way for us to even find that out or get that?
Or is that just gone?
Oh, did she deny using that?
I didn't see that part.
She did.
Oh, I'm not really sure.
I'm not really sure.
But that's something we should definitely look into.
I mean, my guess is, no, that's the whole point of it being encrypted.
But it'd be interesting to know if she at least, I mean, you couldn't find the communications, but maybe know if she was using them.
I guess that's be where you would go from that.
All records and correspondence relating or referring to the individual Thomas Crooks.
All records and correspondence between Secret Service personnel, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security related to the assassination attempt.
All records or documents maintained by the Secret Service related to Joe Biden's campaign event in Pittsburgh on the same day.
What are we searching for there?
Well, so I've heard allegations, and maybe you can, these are firmer allegations now, that some of the Secret Service agents were diverted to her event over in Pittsburgh rather than Donald Trump's event in Butler.
So again, I would like to see similar to the justification for seeking the 2016 records, the differences in their security plans.
I mean, Joe Biden's event was tiny in comparison.
Any normal person, any rational person would say that Donald Trump's event deserved the best and brightest and the highest number of security just based on the volume of attendees, the fact that it was outdoors versus Joe Biden's indoor event.
So yeah, I'd like to see the difference in the comparison.
And again, the planning behind that and who diverted those Secret Service agents and who determined a security plan for hers as well.
Yeah, and I think you'll find exactly what you expect.
It was an event with 5% of the attendance, 1% of the threat level, and probably had four times this amount as attention.
At least that's what is being talked about right now.
All records related to Secret Service efforts to set and implement radical and gender quotas, including diversity, equity, and inclusion goals and hiring processes since 2021.
Yeah, and I guess that's what the America First Legal has filed as well.
So we'll see what kind of happens in response to that.
But yeah, I mean, they're obviously doing that.
We just want to see the records.
I would say we just really want to see the records.
And by the way, and we'll move on to the local element of this now.
We do, they released text messages, but again, those were from local police.
Those are from local police.
So, and it talks about how they warned Secret Service that there was a sniper on the roof.
They warned him.
They warned him that there was a guy going on.
They said, tell Secret Service to be on the lookout for a suspicious individual.
He's on the roof.
Yeah, the Butler PD, I mean, that's damning and that's crazy.
I mean, they're not going to want to take the fall for this.
And they're going to see the people doubting the narrative and questioning all of this and trying, you know, trying to figure out who's at fault.
The smart thing for Butler PD to do would be to comply with the public and let people know and give us their records, show that they had nothing to do with this and that, you know, they acted to the best of their ability on that day.
But that's crazy.
I mean, that must be insanely frustrating to them and just infuriating to go through that sort of experience, have those, have those records.
And the fact that they're willing to release that to the public, I think, is very telling towards their attitude to this situation.
You also request for any political bias, proof of political bias inside.
So I don't know how they would even turn something like that over, but also an interesting request.
All right, I want to move on to the request to the local law enforcement, that is the Pennsylvania law enforcement.
Public record review duplication request for records related to the assassination attempt of Donald Trump.
And this one goes to all records maintained by the city of Butler or the Bureau related to President Donald Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania, and the attempted assassination.
All records related to the selection of the date and the venue of the event.
All records related to the preparation or planning of the event, all records reflecting procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event, intelligence briefings and officer safety bulletins that were distributed to or from Butler City Police Department.
All records concerning the use of Pennsylvania government funds to provide security and services to the event.
All records related to the number of officers and personnel and identity at the event.
All video similar video footage, all audio footage, all communications records.
So it's basically, it's virtually a copy and paste, but this one to Butler County.
And so again, though, for the new audience, how long does the local law enforcement that would be Pennsylvania, Butler County in this case, have to respond?
And how long does Secret Service have to respond to these requests?
Local law enforcement and Butler has five business days to respond to us.
We don't have to, they don't have to give all the records, but they do have to let us know whether they approve of our request or deny it and then start rolling production.
And then Secret Service has 20 days to respond.
So folks, that means there is a chance we could have some answers by next week, at least from Butler County.
And so some of this stuff could be big.
I mean, again, communications would tell us a big story.
More video could tell us a big story.
More body cam footage could tell us a big story.
The communications between local law enforcement and secret service or lack there of could tell us a big story.
I mean, these are this is the information that they refused to answer to when it came to the hearings.
So this is why we've decided to file this FOIA request.
Exactly, exactly.
And I think, you know, like you said, the omissions or like the missing information, the lack of communication is, you know, not as telling, but very, very telling, just like the communications would be.
I think that, you know, there's a lot of potential for just, you know, especially comparing the old rally to the new rally, a lot of potential for comparison there to see where the slip-ups were and really at what point it happened, you know, how far in advance of the rally on the day of.
I think there's, we've requested everything we could think of.
And I think, you know, there's, there's so much potential to really expose some of those underlying questions that we just don't have answers to yet.
So a man died because of this.
There hasn't been anybody.
I mean, are we looking at a situation where you could look at criminal negligence potentially here?
I mean, what are some other follow-up charges, even?
Or, I mean, what can happen to right this wrong?
Should we find wrongs from this request?
Yeah, I think potentially, I mean, potentially the family could do something along those lines.
I think that certainly needs to be investigated, though, because I think criminal negligence is exactly the type of thing that they need to go after these people for, especially once we figure out and determine, you know, who was responsible for this intentional stand down.
You know, I think, yeah, the family could look into something like that, but then our government really too should be looking at holding these people accountable.
The fact that they're not answering more questions, and you know, I think sadly, that element has to me been overlooked a bit in that, you know, we're all very thankful and grateful that President Trump survived.
But the fact that there was a death because of their failure here is really abhorrent.
And this is why I hope that, you know, aside from just the obvious corruption here, this is why another reason why I hope people don't give up on figuring out what went down here because there were severe consequences.
We're lucky the other two people who were shot weren't more seriously injured and didn't die themselves.
So, you know, this is part of the reason why we need to keep digging into this and get justice for that family, too, in addition to the American people who were almost stripped of any sort of their political nominee in November.
Yeah, I mean, you almost had a situation where both nominees would not have received a single vote.
You already have that on the Democrat side with Kamala Harris.
Nobody voted for her.
And so, I mean, just think about talk about a banana republic should that situation have unfolded.
Fortunately, it didn't.
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if you can reach out to the families.
Maybe they can put a little momentum behind this.
I believe that the two shooting victims have been released from the ICU now.
I think the last one was just released today.
Oh, really?
I didn't hear that.
That's fantastic news.
Yeah, I believe he was just released today, a veteran.
So it'd be one thing if this was like some master sniper taking a shot from a mile away.
But we have enough information that shows that there was such a failure of either criminal incompetence or negligence or something much worse.
And so that's why this has to be pressed forward.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the recent video footage, and I'm attempting to get this guy on, but there are people running around like crazy, screaming there's a guy on the roof, screaming he has a gun for at least five minutes, at least five minutes before he takes a shot.
You've got law enforcement running around looking for a way to get on the roof, looking dazed and confused.
Oh, what do we do?
There's this guy on the roof.
He's like untouchable.
He's like invincible.
We don't know what to do.
So it's, and Trump is still sitting on the stage.
Nobody neutralizes him.
So it's like, this isn't some master shot from a mile away.
This guy's sitting up there on the roof, a known threat for at least an hour, five minutes directly to the president and the crowd, and nothing gets done.
Well, I think, you know, just days after the event, there were like, what, two or three people interviewed saying that they were yelling at police officers and law enforcement on the ground who saw him ahead of time climbing the ladder, getting up there, setting everything up.
The whole thing is so absurd.
And I saw that video of the police officers like not figuring out how to get through a fence.
They had to ram through it after the whole thing.
The whole thing was just embarrassing.
You know, it definitely seems like there's certainly an intentional cover-up, you know, an intentional behind the scenes component.
There's also just a negligence component because there's no way that every single law enforcement officer there was in on it.
But then so many of them were just didn't even know what to do.
So this whole thing was a massive failure.
How they, I, you know, the frustrating part is, is that they just don't even, they don't even try to hide it.
I mean, to come out and say that Secret Service wasn't on the roof that day because of the heat.
I mean, do they really think that people are going to buy that?
Do they really think that people are going to accept that sort of it's even worse than that because let's just say, okay, it was too hot for them on the roof.
Well, okay, what about the other teams that obviously didn't leave their posts on the roof?
What about the tens of thousands of people that were standing out in the heat all day and stayed around for Trump's rally?
But I mean, that's kind of okay.
Let's push that aside even.
They're claiming that they had eyes on the second story of the building right behind where the shooter was located.
So, this is what makes it even crazier.
So, where are your eyes on the second story of the building right behind that would have seen him on the roof pointing a gun at Trump in the crowd?
I mean, he would have been neutralized like in an instant, should have been neutralized in an instant, considering that's what you're claiming is that's where your secret service was located since they abandoned their post.
But the building itself that he's climbing all over is the secret service law enforcement headquarters.
It's their damn headquarters.
They're walking in and out.
They've got dozens, if not hundreds of agents headquartered right there.
The building he's shooting on.
I mean, it's like it doesn't get more ridiculous.
So, he's banging around on the metal roof up there and not a single person knows.
People are on the on the ground yelling at law enforcement, trying to get their attention, and nobody blinks an eye.
There's so much here that you're just like, how did this happen?
You know, it's like that.
This is why everyone right at the beginning was like, this just smells so much and it just seems so intentional because there's no way that there's so much negligence to lead to this sort of thing.
No, and there's so many outstanding questions.
And you're right, they're stationed right there.
Who was supposed to be there?
Why weren't they there?
Were they there?
I mean, these are all things that security camera footage and communications and security plan would reveal.
You know, who was supposed to be where and who would have seen what was going on or should have seen what was going on and didn't do anything about it.
Okay, so last question for the evening, and we'll let you go.
So, because people are already saying that they're going to refuse the requests, they're going to say, can't share this information with you.
Let's say ongoing investigation.
So, what do we do in that case?
What do we do if they stonewall and don't give us what we request?
Yeah, and you know, like I said earlier, I expect to, for at least a lot of these records, that's exactly what they're going to do.
I'd be shocked if they just handed over the black box to us.
In that case, we, you know, we file suit and we initiate some FOIA litigation and try to compel the disclosure of the documents and the records that we've requested.
And, you know, like I said, legally speaking, there are, you know, certain exceptions that they can invoke to not hand over records.
But there are certainly a lot of things that we've asked for that would not fall under that purview.
And not to mention, you know, even if there are certain things where you would, you know, there's sensitive information or like you said, like, you know, information that would be used for an ongoing investigation, it could impact any sort of charges brought down the road, then they could, you know, redact those sections or blur out certain things.
I mean, they're entitled to do that.
Sometimes they have used that privilege, but they're, you know, they're entitled to do that.
But if they don't turn over anything, if they don't even give us the stuff that even redacted that, you know, communications so we can see time and who was talking to who at what time.
I mean, if they really don't comply at all, then we have a good leg to stand on.
And, you know, like I said, a lot of this wouldn't fall under those exceptions and they should comply with that.
So, you know, long story short, if they refuse to comply, especially at all, we can initially initiate litigation against them and try to get a court order that says that they have to hand it over.
You know, here's actually one more thing.
You know, Andrew Torba from Gab recently published some posts that may have been made by Crooks as he was reached out to by law enforcement, I guess, with maybe an IP address or some information that they wanted him to look into to see if there was any posting associated with it.
And he did find that there were posts on Gab that were pro-Biden posts from Allegedly, crooks.
And so, is there any avenue of, because, you know, even the shooter on the roof crooks, which I'm like, was it even Crooks?
Was he a Patsy?
Were there other people involved?
Who is even the guy on the roof?
It's like, even that's a mystery.
Like, we know nothing about this kid, like, nothing at all.
I mean, where is there any way to get information or subpoena?
I mean, where can we potentially get information on the shooter that's seemingly like a ghost?
On the shooter himself.
I mean, we at the moment really wouldn't have any grounds to subpoena anybody.
That really should be the role of whoever's doing this investigation.
But the trouble is we don't trust them to either do the job or relay to the public what they've learned.
And, you know, if there is a request in here asking for any information that they have on that individual, because I'm assuming that they've done their, you know, some research after the fact and, you know, the fact, but the fact that his social media, have they ever detected anything?
It seems like the whole thing has just been scrubbed.
For a young kid like that, that seems incredibly rare, if not impossible.
You know, from our vantage point, you can't just subpoena just a third party with no other ongoing litigation or incentive would be difficult.
It's not impossible.
But I don't know.
I think throughout time, I hope information comes out about this person.
I'm shocked that two weeks later, we still know as little as we do.
Well, so it'd be up to the law enforcement investigation, which is the FBI at this point, to ask for footage from, say, the shooting range he went to or the Home Depot he went to or anything else like that revolving around the incident.
And so who knows if we'll ever even get access to that.
But it seems impossible that this guy's digital footprint was next to nothing.
It just, it's not impossible, but I mean, it's very unlikely that it was next to nothing.
So there's even a mystery element to the shooter himself with everything else that was going on and some theories that maybe it wasn't even, it wasn't even Crooks.
But that's all.
A lot of theories.
Yeah, a lot of theories about his shooting ability.
And, you know, I don't know how true rumors about his high school team and stuff like that are.
Again, a lot of people that's apparently all been debunked and that he was not yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
But again, there's, there's not any transparency.
There are all these, you know, rumors and people trying to figure out what's going on.
And this is a problem.
And I'm sure to some extent that they want it to be like that, right?
They want this shroud of mystery.
They want people believing all these theories that aren't true to hide the truth.
But this is the public is owed the truth.
This was an incredible failure, an intentional failure.
And now there's a cover-up on by our own government.
And so that, I mean, that sort of thing is just completely unacceptable.
And, you know, it's good to see that people aren't, people are not going to sweep this under the rug.
You know, we're not going to let them.
Yeah.
Well, that's why this is important work that we've done here.
And this FOIA request is important.
And I wanted to put it out on Twitter or X rather for all to see.
I wanted to bring you on again.
This is my attorney, Lexis Anderson from the 1776 Law Center.
When you go to owindefense.com, you're not just supporting my legal defense, which I need as I'm, I think, due for a deposition.
Is it next month?
I don't know.
I can't even keep track.
She'll remind me.
So I'm engaged in legal defense, but now legal offense as well, dealing with this FOIA.
So owindefense.com for that 1776 Law Center.
Lexis Anderson, thank you for your time tonight.
And whenever you have an update with the FOIA, let my audience know.
I certainly will.
Thanks so much, Owen.
Great to join you as usual.
All right.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Some of y'all probably shouldn't be sharing your comments on the live stream.
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Leading us off tonight.
Remember, it's line to line.
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First caller of the night.
What's your name, where you're from?
Hey, Owen, Matt from Michigan.
How are you?
Hi, Matt.
I'm good.
Hey, just wanted to call in real quick.
Wanted to just tell you, I've been following you for over a decade.
Love what you do.
Thank you for being so honest and striving for integrity.
I just wanted to comment on one thing that I really hate to bring up, but there was a lot of people in the chat saying that Trump did this himself.
He set it up.
There's a million reasons.
Six ways to Sunday while you could prove this wrong.
But I really commend a lot of the YouTubers, prominent YouTubers who have done ballistics on the whole situation.
And it's just utterly ridiculous that people think that Trump would do something to bring him up in the polls when for the last six weeks, we all assumed we were going to run against Biden.
I just wanted to bring that up and just kind of hopefully put that to rest, at least in the chat, that if you're going to bring this up, do the research, look at the ballistics, and really study the whole situation from abroad instead of just, you know, calling out headlines and trying to be against the grain of what actually happened,
especially with in the last 48 hours, we've known that Google and Meta have been suppressing not only the photo of Donald Trump raising his fist after being shot, but suppressing the searches on Donald Trump's assassination.
I mean, it all adds up.
It's 2016 all over again.
But yeah, that's all I wanted to say, Owen.
I really appreciate you bringing me on and just wanted to say thank you.
Thank you so much for standing in the light, the limelight of a lot of people who don't want it.
And I just really appreciate it, brother.
Do you want to hold on the line while I respond?
Sure.
Okay.
So let me kind of give a full spectrum response because I know the commentary you're talking about.
And I have people that I know and I respect and respect me that are telling me the same thing.
They think the whole thing was staged.
Now, let me, before I get into that analysis, try to explain something that you alluded to where throughout the years, and I'm 35, I've been in broadcast media, I've been on air.
You could say as a pro.
I mean, what would make somebody a pro, I guess, getting paid to go on air.
So I've been a pro since I was 21.
So young guy, 14 years of on-air experience, and I've learned a lot.
And I've worked with a lot of top-class broadcasters and top-class producers and everything.
And obviously, being at Infowars with Alex Jones has been a learning experience in and of itself.
And so some of the things I've learned before I respond directly to what you're talking about, I think it's worth explaining this.
Here's some of the things I've learned.
One, I see all kinds of accusations that get made about Alex Jones.
I see all types of assumptions that get made at Alex Jones.
And I see people saying such things in high levels of confidence, almost absolute assuredness.
And so witnessing that has really grounded me in so many ways to never assume something that I don't know or never assume something about somebody or at least take it public that I don't know.
Because what this does is whenever people make these ridiculous assumptions or accusations about Alex Jones and I see this, I immediately lose a level of respect for that person.
And it's something that can never be gained back.
And so I'm saying this as somebody that knows Alex personally.
I know Alex professionally.
I know what he is.
I know what he isn't.
And so when I see people rushing to all these assumptions and accusations, many of them just wildly crazy, it's really honed my ability to not leap to any ridiculous assumptions or conclusions that I don't know.
And look, we can speculate and talk about all things, but when I go on air, it's totally different.
I don't want to go on air and jump to a conclusion about somebody that I don't know that other people might know and respect and then make myself look like an idiot as so many people have done about Alex Jones.
And so I hope that makes sense.
Here's the other thing.
I am, I am, as about, I mean, really, it's not even like a good thing, but it is what it is.
I am addicted to media.
I am consuming six to eight hours of media a day.
I mean, actively consuming secondhand consumption at another four.
Like I'm just sitting at my house making dinner or something, and I've got the, I've got a wall of broadcasts.
I mean, my living room looks like a media production center.
So I'm, I mean, my whole life, I'm consumed in media.
I'm not exactly proud of it, but it's what I do to go on air.
And so in that process, I'm absorbing so much information.
And there's a lot of things.
And again, just with my lawyer, where she was talking about some things, and she does legal work.
So this isn't an affront to her or anything, but she said some things about the developments into the Trump assassination that I knew had either been debunked or weren't true.
And so I was just able to say, hey, no, that's not true.
So here's what I'm saying.
When I'm tuned into somebody's broadcast or I see somebody doing commentary or analysis and they get something wrong, I immediately have to assume either they're lazy, they're not trying, or they do not care about accuracy.
And so in that moment, again, I lose respect for that person and I might never tune in again.
And so I'm trying to avoid being that.
And I understand people get frustrated because I get sent stuff all the time.
They're like, oh, and why aren't you mentioning this?
Why aren't you covering this?
Why aren't you doing this?
And the answer is, I just, I don't know yet.
I don't know yet.
I need to know more.
And I'm not going to, I'm not going to jump out in front of something that I don't know the weight behind it, the momentum behind it, because I could get crushed.
And so it's kind of an adjustment that I've been making steadily in the last couple of years to where I'm at today.
And I will also say, and this is kind of maybe out of left field and doesn't really pertain.
I was listening to David Webb the other day, and David Webb says all kinds of things that I disagree with, but I always respected him.
And the other day he attacked Mike Lindell and said, Mike Lindell needs to shut up, and he's a bad look for the Trump movement.
And I'm sitting there thinking, I never want to listen to your broadcast again.
Mike Lindell has put everything on the line.
They're trying to destroy this man's life, and you're going to tell him to shut up.
I haven't tuned into him again since.
That was like two weeks ago.
I used to listen to David Webb in the morning quite frequently.
So that's just kind of where I'm at and what I bring to the air every day and my approach to the air every day.
And so I've kind of learned that a lot of people in media now, they want to be the first to report something or they want to be the first with the new conspiracy angle.
Whereas I've kind of taken a step back and said, no, I really just want to be the silver slugger every year.
I want to hit for the highest batting average every time.
And yeah, you know what?
That means passing on some stories.
Maybe that means passing on some what people might view as clickbait, but that's where I'm at because I want you to be able to rely on me to bring you the information.
I want you to be able to rely on me that I'm doing the legwork.
And I don't want to put myself in a situation where I'm reporting on somebody or something without the proper background research.
And then somebody informed hears that and says, wow, I've lost all respect for this guy.
So that being that, you bring up the Trump staging his own assassination attempt.
You know, I get where people are coming from with this.
I really do.
And now that his ear is completely healed, it's only going to make these theories amplified and seem to be reality.
So I'm not going to comment on the healed ear.
Maybe it's strange.
A man got shot and killed.
Two other people got shot.
I talked to over, I talked to dozens of eyewitnesses that saw this, saw bullets rip through people, saw bloody people getting carried out, saw eyewitnesses to the guy climbing on the roof.
So I mean, for somebody to say it was staged to me is ludicrous, but I get it.
I get it.
This world is insane.
Everything seems fake.
The world is a stage.
And so people just don't believe anything that they see at all.
But that's my response.
I understand why people believe it.
I don't think negatively of people that believe the whole thing was staged, Terry, because if you believe it was staged, there's nothing that I can do or say or show you that's going to change your mind.
I couldn't agree more, Owen.
And I just want to say thank you so much for giving that response.
And just to touch on a couple of things that you mentioned, you know, you being with Alex Jones and being with him for so long, you've known him from a professional standpoint and a personal standpoint.
I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir.
It's the cross you bear.
And whether it's fortunate or unfortunately, your demographic, your crowd, your audience, your followers is the silent majority.
I know so many people firsthand in Michigan that listen to you, listen to Alex, and follow what you have to say, but they would dare to say it publicly.
They would dare to bring it up at work.
I just want to commend you and thank you so much for, like I said in my beginning initial response, was the integrity, the honesty, and the fact that you've kind of changed your tune a little bit on not reporting everything that immediately comes out, looking at the whole aspect of what is happening and waiting for the facts to start laying down.
And I couldn't have said it better myself.
You're absolutely correct.
And I give utmost respect to anyone who denies that this was done with intention, because like you have said for years, question everything.
So from someone who always questions everything, I can't not respect someone who questions this event.
Because as you know, and as everyone knows, it's almost too good to be true.
But I know what I believe.
I know for roughly what you believe and what you stand for.
I just wanted to come on here for my first time and just tell you over the phone that you've got a lot of supporters in Michigan.
A lot of the silent majority has really opened their ears to the alternative media.
And the word that I spread, you know, with my very small circle is don't just read the headlines.
If you really want to believe something, if you want to be, if you want to have courage and your convictions, do your research, prove yourself wrong, and then find the truth.
And if you don't, if you still don't believe it, look to your community, look to your circle, look to your friends and see really what are people leaning towards.
And what I've come to find going to rallies, going to, you know, door knocking for Trump and, you know, going all the way back to 2016, I really true believe he's going to go two for two, keeping another woman out of the Oval Office.
But that's it, Owen.
I just wanted to say my part, and I truly appreciate, brother, what you're doing.
And I'm a big fan.
Thank you so much.
Well, that's assuming that Kamala even ends up being the nominee.
I'm not so sure that's a guarantee quite yet.
So that's the interesting angle to that: will Kamala Harris even be the nominee?
Still, time will tell.
And let me explain something too.
I, to the people that are reaching out saying we need to take Kamala Harris seriously, she's a real threat.
And I see this commentary out there.
I'm of the practice that we should never underestimate our opposition.
It's like the old sports analogy: never underestimate your opponent.
And also, we should pretend like we're 20, 30 points behind in this deal because we virtually are with how much cheating the Democrats do.
So this isn't to discount what we're up against.
But having said that, all of this hype behind Kamala Harris, all this headline that you see behind Kamala, it's all fraud.
It's all fraud.
Oh, she, Kamala Harris raises $100 million overnight.
That was money for Joe Biden that they just scratched Joe Biden off the check and put Kamala on it.
There was no record fundraising.
It was a fake news story.
It was literally Joe Biden's money, and they just changed the name of the bank account holder.
That's all they did.
It was no record fundraising.
And now they're being investigated by the FEC for campaign violations.
The funds are frozen.
Oh, record fundraising.
All this Kamala hype.
She had about a week's worth of hype, and now what is it?
She couldn't even fill a high school gymnasium today.
Even the artist that was like, Kamala is brat is like, hey, the Kamala is Brat thing is over.
So I think they gave Kamala a test run.
I think that they wanted to have a debate as soon as possible with Trump and Kamala so that they could do the same Joe Biden thing.
And if she failed, get her out of the race.
And I think the Trump campaign caught up to that and said, no, we're not going to give you the test run again.
So they're not going to do the debate until she's nominated.
And apparently now Kamala is begging to be nominated this Wednesday to avoid getting ousted at the convention.
So no, it doesn't matter whether we're up against Biden or Kamala or Hillary or Michelle.
We're up against the same system of fraud.
We're up against the same system of propaganda.
We're up against a corrupt system, not necessarily the name on the ballot.
But they need as much help as they can get.
So they got a test run.
Whoever is doing the best, they gave Kamala a chance.
I'm not so sure it's going to be her.
All right, let's take another call.
What's your name, where you're from?
Going once on the line.
What's your name, where you're from?
All right, a no-go.
Let's take the next caller.
What's your name, where you're from?
Hi, this is Joseph from Vegas.
All right, Joseph, go ahead.
Well, just real quick, just for the last caller.
I mean, just you could easily tell it's not fake just because that gun, we're very familiar with ARs.
They shoot after 100 yards.
It's got a three-inch MOA.
So that means it's not going to go in the same hole, the same, like if you shoot a target with no wind indoors, 100 yards away, it's not going to go through the same hole.
It has a three-inch disparity.
So it's not really your most accurate weapon.
So that's totally not possible to even fake a shot like that.
Or even the best marksman of all time.
So yeah, fake a shot into nicking or like grazing Trump's ear.
Yeah, no, that's right.
And him turning his head at the perfect time.
Yeah, that's impossible.
No, it's impossible with weapons.
It's completely impossible, especially with any sort of 16-inch AR.
But anyway, just want to say good job on that request because, you know, it's important that, I mean, they can't break the law.
They have to provide you with an answer.
So they're either going to deny you guys or, you know, give you some sort of better information that we don't have yet.
So that's, that's really important.
I think more people should do that.
But very sad to see that, you know, the important people got kicked off the congressional investigation that they're doing together.
Yeah, Corey Mills, Corey Mills and Eli Crane.
Yeah.
But Mills is a, he's, he said he's doing his own type of investigation as of today.
So that should be a key.
Yeah.
And Eli, Eli said he believes it's politically motivated.
And look, you know, here's the silver lining of all of this.
This is only going to, this is only going to bring people closer to where we are at politically and spiritually, if you will, or like that, that intersection of culture and politics and spiritual and patriotism.
Like we're everybody is getting closer to our intersection as all of this goes down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, tomorrow I'm going to go to the JD Vance rally here in Las Vegas.
So that'll be fun to check down.
That's big.
That'll be interesting because, you know, Kamala got about 500 people at a high school gymnasium in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Folks, if they can't, if that's all they can get in Philadelphia, I'm telling you, let's see what happens with JD tomorrow in Nevada, a very key swing state.
Yeah, there's going to be a big turnout, but, you know, I don't think Trump's going to be there.
So everyone in the battle has got to do their part and just show up on behalf of Trump.
So that's what I'm doing.
It'll be great to see.
And I was just going to say, did you see about the, there was a terrible migrant crime again today?
I guess someone went crazy stabbing kids.
It's all on X and everything right now.
But yeah, I did see that.
It was a stabbing spree at like a Taylor Swift thing.
Yeah, man.
Or it wasn't an actual Taylor Swift event.
It was like a Taylor Swift themed event, right?
Yeah.
And it's just one of those things that breaks your heart.
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine?
I have three hours a day on the InfoWars war room, and I can't even squeeze in every news story.
I had to squeeze that one out of my broadcast today.
I didn't even squeeze in Joe Biden threatening to rewrite the rules of the Supreme Court.
Just totally unconstitutional.
Oh, yeah.
No, yeah.
He scared everybody today.
That's what he said.
Term limits on Supreme Court justices and everything like that, packing about.
He said about 40 people he wants to get in there.
I'm like 20 people, 27 people or something.
Well, I'm glad they're doing it.
It will fail.
It'll get voted down at the Supreme Court.
It won't even pass the Supreme Court is the irony of it.
So I don't even know how they do it.
I think it's just, I think it's just a political stunt before the election.
Yeah, man, just it's really unwinding quite fast.
I mean, you see what they're doing here.
You see what they're doing abroad and France.
So they're just decimating everybody that has a brain.
You know, anyone that's common sense, they're just trying to piss on.
So it's really just quite sad right now.
But we just got to kind of dig deep and just have faith and hope everything turns out good.
All right, my man.
I appreciate the call.
Yeah, I didn't even, I didn't even cover that.
Mass stabbing.
Little girl dead.
Migrant.
Biden migrant.
More blood on Biden's hands.
More blood on borders are Harris's hands.
By the way, before I take this next caller, folks, I'm telling you, do not doubt me on this.
They're getting the Vance-Harris story wrong.
Now, look, I wasn't a big Vance guy.
I didn't like the Vance pick.
I'm not sure I do, but it doesn't matter.
He's the VP choice for Trump, and so it's done.
Trump's not going to replace him.
And he picked him for a reason.
But I think I know the reason now.
And, you know, by the way, to the caller a couple callers ago, just to reiterate what he's saying, I can't even believe it, folks.
But I mean, I basically can't even go out in public without getting recognized.
And so I love the support.
It fills my heart.
It means everything.
Honestly, it's like, it's unbelievable.
The people I meet are so nice and so caring.
But it's like, you know, sometimes you just want to go to the grocery store and just get your groceries and go home.
And that's not, I'm not singling anybody out to the people I talk to at the grocery store.
I'll always take time.
I'll always say hello.
I'll always appreciate your time and your kind words.
So that's not what I'm saying.
But it's like sometimes I'd like to go to the gym and just get a workout in, but it's just like I can't even, I'll wear a hat.
I'll wear sunglasses.
It doesn't stop.
So we really are in the majority, more so than we even realize.
But we're like the hidden fight club.
You know, we're like the fight club majority where it's like, yeah, everybody is in fight club, but you don't really talk about fight club.
So I figured I'd just throw my two cents in there.
But, you know, I think, and maybe Trump measured this, maybe not.
I think everybody's getting the Harris Vance thing wrong.
I actually think JD Vance is good for the women's vote.
That's right.
That's right.
I think J.D. Vance is good for the female vote, specifically the middle-aged female to elderly female, and specifically the mothers.
I believe J.D. Vance is good for that vote.
And everybody's missing it and getting it wrong.
Here's my proof.
And this is from my own mom.
And this is from other moms that I see out in public that listen to my show or that I talk to.
And they all say the same thing: how much they like J.D. Vance, how much they enjoy his speeches.
And here's what it is: why is JD Vance resonating with moms, specifically middle-aged or older mothers?
Why is JD Vance resonating with them?
Because he reminds them of their sons.
Do not doubt me on this.
Kamala Harris reminds middle-aged and elderly women of the phony that rode men to the top, figuratively and literally.
Kamala Harris reminds women of the phonyism that women can sniff out and can't stand in an instant, more so than even a man can.
Kamala Harris does not resonate with mothers or middle-aged or older women.
She doesn't.
But JD Vance does.
JD Vance does because he reminds them of their sons.
Shout out to Shane in St. Louis.
All right, let's take the next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
That ain't happening.
Hello.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
No.
No.
I'm kind of curious what's happening here.
I've lost interest.
All right.
Let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
Kelly from Chicago.
Oh, Kelly in the Windy City.
Go ahead.
Hey, Owen.
It's the great steak debater here.
How are you?
I'm good.
Hey, listen.
My steaks are always the best, though.
Just know.
No, mine aren't top notch.
You'll see.
I had one tonight.
It was, it was awesome.
But, anyways, I want to tell you: as I was calling in, you are 100% correct about JD Vance.
Thank you, Mother.
Thank you.
They're doubting me on this.
They're doubting me.
I tell the people, do not doubt me on this.
No, as a woman and a mother, you are 100% correct.
And women do not like Kamala Harris.
There's nothing likable about her.
There's nothing genuine.
She is just absolutely vile and repulsive to women.
And I'm assuming that it's the same with men as well.
So all this hype, all this propaganda, it's the honeymoon period.
It's going to blow over.
I think it already has.
I think it already has.
I think they're on their last phase of the honeymoon phase with this coconut pill.
And they got Kamala on this magazine riding a coconut.
And it's done.
It's over.
The honeymoon is done by next week, guarantee you.
And it goes right back to the open border and it goes right back to what are her policies.
Laura Loomer, I don't know if you saw because you've been doing your show, but about 20 minutes ago, Laura Loomer just reported that she heard at the Democrat convention that they're going to perform an abortion on live TV.
Don't know where she got that.
Don't know if it's true.
Well, okay, let's be perfectly clear.
First of all, I'm never going to attack Laura Loomer.
Let me just, let me just, let me just say for people, let me just give a word of the wise.
Do not go after Laura Loomer.
You will regret it.
Having said that, I think that I doubt they do an actual abortion.
They'll probably do like a mock abortion or something.
They'll do something to celebrate abortion, but to do a lot.
There's no way they can do a live medical procedure.
I don't think they could either.
I don't think they could either.
But at some point, I would think just maybe she's actually talking about how they're going to abort Kamala Harris and take her off the ticket.
They probably will.
I went and doubted it.
That's me.
But I got to think, I've got to think if they did that, if they do something like that, I would even think the middle-of-the-road Democrats would be turned off by that.
I would think, you know, the moderate Democrat that's already on the fence about her, if they did that, I just don't see.
I don't know.
It's repulsive.
It's sick.
But so that's my thoughts.
But I do think they're going to take, I don't know if she's going to be.
I'm not convinced.
I'm not convinced, especially now that the hype is worn out and it's all fading.
But tell people now, not just from yourself.
What about other, what about other women your age?
What about other mothers?
Am I right about the JD Vance situation?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And we do not think he's weird.
I think the women I know, we were all very excited that he was the pick.
I mean, I like Vivek Ramaswamy.
I think he's very charismatic, this and that.
But I knew he wasn't going to be the pick.
So, you know, when we knew what the shortlist was, I think all the women I know were very happy with that choice.
That was a choice we would have wanted.
That's a solid pick.
And you watched this.
What is this?
Like middle-class Chicago?
What's that?
And this is like middle-class Chicago.
We are just outside of Chicago.
We're suburbs of Chicago, about half an hour, maybe outside.
And yes, the women that I know, and you know, most of my family and friends were all conservative.
We're all Trump people.
We were since before 2016.
I wanted him to run in 12, but glad he didn't because it wouldn't have been his time.
But yeah, so we were all very pleased with JD Vance being the pick.
I'm telling you, folks, do not doubt me on this.
Do not.
And I don't think, I don't think, you know, there's the rumors floating around that Trump is thinking of replacing him.
I don't think that's true.
No.
I just don't.
I don't.
It wouldn't make any sense.
No, it wouldn't.
It just wouldn't.
And yeah, I think we have a solid choice.
And anyone who listens to him, he's just smart.
He's articulate.
He is the American dream of somebody who came from nothing and pulled themselves up from the bootstraps.
And you see all that possibility.
And he brings it home.
So women love him.
Telling you, people have this whole women Vance thing wrong.
You know, it's amazing.
They know it's propaganda and that the media is there to deceive them and lie to them, but sometimes it even works on those that know.
Sometimes it even works on those that know.
They're all saying weird.
Like it's like every other talking point.
Every other they all did.
Hold on.
Let me try to go for the short list.
Schumer, Buddha Judge, Socky, Whitmer, Barbara Lee, Swalwell.
Who am I missing?
That's six come to mind.
They all called him weird, but it was like a lot.
They've all been doing it all day.
That was their talking point to call him weird.
Yeah, yeah.
We're past, we're sharp as attack, right?
We went from sharp as attack to weird, just like that.
Yeah, Biden's sharp as attack, too.
He's not even in the race.
J.D. Vance is weird to what's next.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, well, we're not falling for it, us women.
And they can push that and push that.
It's not going to work.
Well, and I think anyway.
Thank you for the call, Kelly.
You know, I might have to just ask for the women to call in on Vance now because people are doubting me on this.
Folks, I'm telling you, JD Vance reminds these women of their son.
I'm telling you.
Do not doubt me on this.
It's a real phenomenon.
I could do a whole show on this.
Do not doubt me on this.
They're in the comments.
They're agreeing.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
Albert, what's up tonight, man?
Oh, not a whole lot, Owen.
Hey, huge shout out to your fight there for the FOIA request there.
I didn't realize that you still had the OwenDefense.com website up and running.
I had just assumed that it was offline since the whole Supreme Court thing fell through.
Well, I don't talk about it, but I've been sued again, Albert.
So I'm actually in a legal defense right now as we speak.
I just don't really talk about it.
No, no, no, that's okay, Owen.
No, no.
And, you know, it's a shame to see that that persecution is still going on, but that's why I'm happy to be out here supporting you in that.
But I just wanted to touch on what I believe it was the first caller called in about on people talking about how the whole Trump shooting was staged or, you know, false flag or whatever you want to call it.
I've actually been pretty adamant.
Now, of course, I don't buy that.
I think it was 100% legit, but I actually have been vehemently defending these people's rights to do that on the grounds that it's protected speech, but I just, my main gripe is I wonder if anybody denying this will get sued for $1.5 billion or $2.5 trillion.
You know what I mean?
Like Alex Jones and you guys over at InfoWars.
Of course not.
Well, it might have to be the family of Corey Contimpierre that, and I probably butchered the name.
I'm sorry.
But it'd have to be his family, the victim who died, or I guess maybe the other victims maybe that could sue the doubters.
But that shouldn't happen either.
No, no, absolutely not.
And I just feel that it's really funny now that the people on the radical left here are now the ones that are coming up with all these conspiracies and trying to put together all these dots and everything like that where it doesn't exist.
And, you know, the whole ear healing thing or whatever.
I mean, it's, you know, like wounds heal.
It's not like the bullet.
I don't think they ever claim the bullet went right through his ear.
They said it.
Well, I guess the FBI finally admitted that it was the bullet that grazed his ear, you know, as opposed to shrapnel.
So, you know, it'll be interesting to see if they're liable for a lawsuit there too as well.
But and on the on the Vance pick, you know, I'm kind of still up in the air about it.
Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of Vance, but listening to the last caller, you know, my mom really likes that pick, and she's a, she would be a boomer.
So she's of an age, you know, where he could, you know, realistically, you know, be her son.
So I see where you're coming from as far as the appeal there, you know, maybe more to female voters in that.
I'm telling people, do not doubt me on this.
Mothers of the world will unite around J.D. Vance because he reminds them of their sons.
And the more they attack J.D. Vance, the more they're going to like J.D. Vance.
Now, look, I'm not claiming here that J.D. Vance is going to sweep the female vote.
That's not what I'm claiming.
I'm saying that do not underestimate that Vance is resonating with women for that reason.
This is not, it was not an anti-woman pick.
It was a pick that I think will actually bring women into Trump.
The question is, does it lose or win any voters?
I don't know.
I'm just saying that middle-aged women and mothers like J.D. Vance.
No, I completely get you, Erwin.
And I don't think it's a pick that hurts Trump at all.
And I think all this publicity about Kamala doing better in the polls or whatever than Biden is just, it's just all fluff and completely fabricated the same way that the polls of Hillary being up 15 points the night before the election were fabricated.
But I just feel that right now everybody seems to be really rallying behind Trump and the conservatives.
And as much as maybe I wasn't a fan of a lot of the stuff that happened at the RNC, I do agree with your take that it brought in a lot of other people that maybe wouldn't be interested in conservative politics or conservative, you know, more conservative minded topics.
So, you know, I understand, Owen, you know, when you say don't bounce me because it's just like Alex Jones was right.
You know, I learned not to doubt you guys a long time ago.
But one other quick thing I wanted to tell you, Owen, I was away this weekend and I saw something on, this is a little unrelated, but I saw something on TV that reminded me, I had to tell you, in the state of Ohio, the governor mandated that they're going to have to put defibrators in all grade schools and high schools because I guess they figure the kids are now having heart attacks higher rates.
But wait a second.
I thought it was because defibrillators are already required in schools.
I thought it had something to do with like athletic facilities specifically.
You know, that could have been it.
I caught it.
I just kind of had the TV running in the hotel room.
Like, you know, it's background noise and I caught it about halfway through the story.
But, you know, like when I saw it, I figured I have to tell you about it that it's that they're putting these defibrillators in all over the place, you know, for these kids.
And I just don't see any other reason but the vaccines that, you know, they would need that kind of equipment, especially for high school athletes, maybe who should be in top physical condition.
And yeah, so I think I know, I'm pretty sure I know the story you're talking about.
I didn't know if it was specific to Ohio or not.
Now, again, I have to go, I'm sure this information is available.
I'm pretty sure it became mandatory for schools to have defibrillators decades ago.
I'm pretty sure that was the case.
I think that the development you're referring to is now it has to be in athletic facilities.
So like in other words, a weight room or a training facility, or if you're outside even having like a football or baseball practice, that it has to be somewhere on the scene.
So I think that I don't want to say I'm 100% confident on that, but I think that that was the new development that it had to be at athletic facilities.
Oh, okay.
I understand, Owen.
Which is really even worse, actually.
Oh, no, no, for sure, for sure, because that's saying the kids are having more, you know, problems than they did before they put the poison shots out.
But thanks for taking my call again, Owen.
And I just wanted to thank you for always shouting me out and being so kind.
And that's why I'm happy to support you.
And as far as I'm concerned, you're the number one guy.
I say you're America's number one patriot.
I mean it.
And looking forward to see what comes next here and maybe check out the new gear there next week.
But I'll let you get this some more callers here for tonight.
Well, that's an honor, Albert.
You're number one.
You're number one as well in my book.
So I appreciate that.
All right.
Let's take another call here.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
My name's Zekola, and I'm actually from Ohio.
Okay.
Did you say, I'm sorry, Zecola?
No, Nicola.
Nicola.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Nicola.
Okay.
you're fine you're fine so uh go ahead Is this Owen?
Speaking.
Oh, wow.
I spoke to you before, actually, but it's been a while ago.
I live in Ohio.
I voted for JD Van.
I agree with you 100% as far as I'm a mom and a grandma.
So, and to answer the guy's question before, I'm a nurse also.
ADs are in all schools.
I don't know if maybe they have a portable one they may take on a field for like a football or soccer game or sports in Ohio.
Yeah, like I said, I believe that that was the story, is it had to be at athletic facilities.
And I heard it in passing, like Albert was saying.
And so it probably was just local Ohio news, but I heard it on a I heard it on a national news headline feed, and I couldn't find any national news.
So, yeah, I'm assuming that it's probably maybe it's just Ohio and it's at sporting facilities, but it's obviously because these athletes are having you know heart problems because of the vaccine.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I agree.
My husband retired military and uh had a strike after they're getting the vaccine.
So, uh, yeah, definitely important.
So, you agree with my analysis of JD Vance, though?
I do.
I do.
I hate to see him go from Ohio.
So, do I. I mean, he's a good vote in the Senate, and who knows who we'll get from DeWine?
Yeah, I know, I know, but we're just gonna pray and vote in Ohio for sure.
So, but JD is a good one, yeah.
And I'm telling you, they're underestimating Vance.
And look, again, this isn't this isn't a Vance.
I'm not a Vance loyalist.
I wasn't a guy that pushed for Vance.
It looks like it was Tucker Carlson and Don Jr. that got Trump to pick Vance.
I'm just saying, don't buy into this fear-mongering that he's losing with women.
If anything, it's a neutral factor.
If anything, if we're doing metrics, it's a neutral factor.
But I'm telling you, the middle-aged women, the mothers, the grandmothers, they like Vance.
Do not doubt me on this.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
I am Donovan.
I'm from Virginia.
Donovan, go ahead.
Hey, man, how are you doing?
You know, just I just want to, you know, put a little input in.
You know, I'm a friendly overall.
You know, I believe, you know, peace and amongst us all is the best way to do it.
But like, from the top, man, like, the whole, you know, we're controlled by Israel.
The bipartisan is running for Israel more than they are our own country.
And, you know, I don't know if you know anything about the like sovereignty and like state nationalists and like the way the courts are in, but until we address all those kinds of problems, man, we're just we need a whole reset in our government, man.
And then, you know, I think with Trump, you know, like I agree with you, what you say with that, that, you know, rather have him in our, you know, the crippling era right now than putting the other choice.
But yeah, we still got a, we are very uneducated amongst the masses with some problems that we really need to solve.
And that's all.
All right.
Anything else?
Yeah, not really.
That's all.
I'll tell you later, brother.
He's good.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Oh, Josh.
Hello?
Hello?
You're on the air.
What's your name, Harry?
Yeah, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Josh.
All right.
All right, Josh, go ahead.
You guys are talking about JD Vance for the VD pick.
Yep.
I thought Trump should probably take more of a general role, like McGregor or Flynn.
I like both of those guys.
Absolutely.
And if they're not going to be the VP, I'd like to see him in the administration for sure.
Yes.
Because I think they will actually create a structure for Trump.
Well, having them in the administration, I think would be very important.
I'm a big fan of both of those great American men, General Mike Flynn and Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Absolutely.
Their wisdom should not be taken for granted.
And I hope that it has part of the Trump campaign or Trump president.
It would be a strength to Trump.
Like, I think McGregor should have been a VP.
That's my opinion.
Or Flynn, either or.
But either way, I think Trump is trying to, it's like a distraction.
So, how do you put it?
I think when they're picking these congressmen, you're taking away from when he could have picked a strategic, a man who knows how to play the game.
They've already been through this.
They know where the bodies are lying.
You know what I mean?
Well, if you're referring to the VP pick and not choosing somebody that already has a vote in Congress, I agree.
And again, that's why I said I was ever a big Vance guy.
I didn't want to see Vance as the VP, but the deed is done.
Yeah, I didn't want to lose a vote in Congress, and you essentially have done that with Vance, a loyal vote to the Trump agenda.
Now it's a mystery.
Who knows what DeWine will do with that pick?
But it's done.
And so now I'm weighing the advantages, disadvantages of Vance and just observing and reporting as the time goes on.
Let's take another call and let's see what he does in Las Vegas tomorrow.
Let's see what kind of crowd he gets out.
Important swing state in Nevada.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
Hi, my name is John from San Antonio.
All right, John, go ahead.
So you talk about JD Vance.
And to be honest, I have no strong feelings for him or against him.
But the way I kind of look at him is like a bowl of plain white rice.
He's very bland, in my opinion.
But the thing about white rice, you can always season it however you want.
So I think as Americans, as MAGA, as Trump supporters, we have to hold these politicians accountable.
Even for Trump and JD Vance, I don't agree with everything Trump does or says, but he's the best man for the job.
Simple as that.
And as far as J.D. Vance goes, I mean, I just have to trust what Trump's doing.
He was a never-Trump supporter type of person at one point, but eventually, the closer we get to November, there's going to be a lot of people switching over from Never Trumper to Trump supporters, in my opinion.
Yeah, a lot's going to happen, obviously, in the next, it's now 99 days till the election.
A lot is going to happen.
But yeah, as far as JD Vance is concerned, I just, like I said, I have no strong feelings for him or against him or anything like that.
One other thing I wanted to talk about, though, was the Mike Adams video that was on the war room today.
I was at work, so I couldn't really see the whole segment that was played out, but I was wanting to get your opinion because Harrison said something on the Morning Journal this morning that kind of made me rethink that whole theory that Mike Adams was coming across with.
You're going to have to be more specific.
Well, as far as the second shooter and the visual for it, because from the video that Mike Adams got, he got it from someone off of eggs on Twitter.
And if you follow that person, he says that he had his phone confiscated by authorities.
I don't know if that was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JD Stewart or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
So what Harrison said in the Morning Journal was basically that, you know, all the evidence is going towards going to the federal government, whoever that may be, FBI, CIA, Secret Service.
I have no idea to be completely honest, but he did make a great point that once this evidence gets confiscated, they can manipulate it however they want to.
And I'm kind of wondering, maybe this could have happened with that Mike Adams video that he got.
Because like I said, the source is saying that he had his phone confiscated by the authorities.
Okay, well, again, I'm not, I'm not the specifics of what Harrison or Mike Adams is saying, I'm still not clear on.
I had Mike Adams on my show today, as you referenced, and he did not really lean into the second shooter.
It sounded to me like he was thinking at this point that it was just a reflection.
I still have not seen enough to believe that there was a second shooter.
There's anything that I've seen that would make me think there was a second shooter at this point.
And I would say that for there to be a shooter in that window where Secret Service and local law enforcement was staged as their headquarters seems next to impossible.
So yeah, I don't think there was a shooter in that window.
That's my opinion.
I would say, yeah, I'm convinced there was no second shooter in the window.
It's all about the federal stand down at this point and now the federal cover up.
Yeah, no, I'm totally with you on that.
I understand.
Um, but yeah, I just thought that video was interesting just because that's the closest video I've seen that's with at that building where we're quick.
A very important video, a very important video.
Uh, and look, I'm trying to get the individual that shot that video on the InfoWars War Room.
Uh, so we'll see.
Yeah, well, I mean, if you follow his ex account, I mean, he's saying he's uploading more of that video or other videos.
I'm not exactly too sure.
He just has a little like teaser out more to come.
Um, but we'll see what happens.
I mean, you really can't tell at this point with anything.
No doubt.
Thank you for the call.
I'm going to take one last call.
I hope it's another mom proving me right about Vance, but who knows?
Last caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
It's Crazy Rick from Arizona.
Oh, Crazy Rick squeezes himself into the show.
Hey, listen, a total different topic here.
I was looking around on your website here on Rumble, and it went to the about link.
And the Twitter link you have on there goes to a dead link.
Oh, is that account still dead on X Owen Schroyer Live?
Is it still dead?
Yeah, you might, yeah, you might want to point it to the X. Yeah, that's a good call.
You know, funny story: Owen Schroyer Live, it was the account I originally used to go live from here, and they suspended it for impersonation, even though it was my account.
So, whatever.
Good call.
I'll fix that.
Yeah.
One last thing.
You were talking about the defibrillator or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, still there.
Reminded me of the Breaking Bad episode when the guy at Magical in Germany stuck the defibrillator in his mouth and killed himself.
All right.
Well, I have to, I have to be honest.
I've never seen a single episode of Breaking Bad.
So, oh, man, you need to check that out.
Yeah, I've obviously one of the most popular series of all times.
I've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad.
I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones.
I don't know.
I don't really watch drama TV.
So, all right.
Well, take it easy or on.
I'll talk to some other talk.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
All right.
People are crying for one more caller.
They're demanding one more caller.
I give the crowd what it wants.
Last caller, here it is of the night.
What's your name?
Go ahead.
Bud Size from Oklahoma.
See, this is what I wanted for the last caller.
Tell me, yes, go ahead.
Okay, so tell me what you thought about the Gajira for Olympics.
I mean, Gojira was incredible.
I don't know who they are.
Sorry, I said it wrong.
It's okay.
It's Gojira.
They're incredible.
They're incredible.
In fact, I'm sitting here deciding what to play for music.
Are you a metal fan?
I'm not a metal fan, but only because you like it.
I like it.
Okay.
Well, that's very smart.
You're very smart to be like that.
You're extremely smart.
So I'm a, I mean, yeah, I'm an InfoWars supporter.
So of course I'm smart.
Well, now I think I should probably play a Gojira song on the way out.
I was going to play, you know what?
I'll save that for next time.
I was going to blow people's minds.
I introduced the new, I introduced the new Surge Tanky into them tonight.
I already blew the people's minds with my music selection once.
So I won't double down.
I'll do that next week.
I'll go with the Gojira hit.
Gojira is incredible.
It's one of the best live performances I've ever seen.
I genuinely.
And they're incredible.
Every record they put out is fantastic.
The Lynx was their only one that I thought wasn't just gold from the beginning to the end.
But yeah, so you're not even a metal fan and you thought that was Mario DuPlantier.
He's probably the second best drummer in the world behind Danny Carey of Tool.
I would say Mario DePlantier of Gojira is the second best drummer in the world alive today behind Danny Carey of Tool.
Okay, that's a big statement.
I believe it.
Okay.
Well, you better make the closure worth our while.
Mr. Swawyer.
I always do.
I know.
Well, thanks for having me.
You're awesome.
Wait a second.
What do you think about what about JD Vance?
Oh, yeah.
Well, obviously, Cougars and MILFs for Vance.
Duh.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
That's it.
That's all you need to hear right there.
I'm not going to repeat it.
You heard it from her.
All right.
Now I got to pick a Gojira song.
I had something else lined up that was going to blow your mind.
I want to play some Gojira I've never played before here.
I already blew your mind with the brand new Sarge Tankian to start the show.
So I'll blow your mind next week with something you've never heard before that'll blow your mind.
But I'm telling you, Gojira the Cell is maybe the best thing I've ever seen performed live.
Gojira the Cell.
Maybe the greatest thing I've maybe the greatest song I've ever seen performed live.
I mean, just like mind-blowing in how good it is.
But I've already played that one for you.
So do I want to play old Gojira or new Gojira?
That's the question.
Problem is, they're touring with Tool now, which is obviously fantastic, but good luck getting tickets.
Good luck getting tickets.
Let's see what we got.
Man, these guys are just so damn good.
Let's play some new Gojira, as we call it a night.
Actually, it's Gojira that I play every day to open up the war room at 6 after.
That's Gojira.
All right, that's going to be the one.
This is probably, this will probably go over the best.
It's not their heaviest metal.
I think of all their songs, this would probably have the largest bass popularity from their new album.
So we go out with Gojira, another world from their latest album, which is fantastic.
Gojira, Another World.
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