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	Owen Stroyer Live episode 76.
	I filed a FOIA request to Secret Service and local law enforcement for answers into the Trump assassination attempt coming to you as always through the Owen dot gold microphone.
	But first, did you know that Serge Tankin from System of a Down just released a new s a new single?
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	Of your childhood so far away.
	You can see the death of laughter in his dear eyes this array.
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	Can you tell me, dear grandmother, of your childhood from hunger and pain of the orphans you called brothers in her paradise this array?
	Can you tell me my grandson?
	She said why this country won't recognize that day of the genocide of your fathers.
	Believe me, grandma, they will pay.
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	Alright.
	Owen Schroyer Live, episode 76.
	I filed a FOIA request to Secret Service and local law enforcement for answers into the Trump assassination attempt coming to you through the Owen.gold microphone.
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	So what's going to happen tonight is we're going to be joined by my attorney, Lexus Anderson, who officially filed this today.
	And I'm going to read off it's going to be a little, it's going to be a little droning, but I'm going to read off everything we have requested in this Freedom of Information Act.
	And a lot of this stuff is obvious, the answers that we need.
	But there's going to be some important tidbits.
	And so I just want you guys to get all the information from this FOIA request into Secret Service and local law enforcement so that you can know what to expect, or if they do reject us, then you can see what it is that they're trying to hide.
	And nothing in here is really out of the ordinary.
	But we'll we'll get more into that when my attorney joins me just momentarily.
	So we've got that coming up.
	I've got another announcement that I'm going to be making tonight.
	But the thrust of this live transmission is going to be the FOIA request and the details therein.
	And we'll talk to my lawyer about kind of what research she did into how to phrase this, what to request, what she's expecting.
	And that's how this one is going to go.
	And so I got to give big ups to Bob Barnes and the 1776 Law Center, because they made this happen.
	Now, this is my legal team now.
	And so when you go to Owen Defense.com and support my legal fund, this is who you are supporting, the 1776 Law Center.
	So it's not just in defense of me, as I am constantly in court defending myself.
	I'm in another legal defense case right now.
	But it's also that we can go on the offense when people defame me or when we need to file FOIA requests like today.
	So Lexis Anderson from the 1776 Law Center joins me now.
	All right, Lexus, I want to let the audience get caught up here, and I want to let the audience build before I just actually read the Freedom of Information Act that you filed today.
	But before we get into that, just kind of go into the thought process that went into this, go into the research that went into this, and what made you determine to make these requests in the legal filing today.
	Absolutely.
	Well, thank you so much for having me.
	I'm uh really excited to get this out today.
	Um, you know, the sooner the better in this situation.
	But yeah, I think uh, you know, it it it was about a week ago, well, week ago exactly when they started doing the uh hearings in front of the congressional oversight committee, and I think it became very clear to everybody that we we were not going to get adequate answers on the attempted assassination of President Trump.
	And so uh it was then that I was thinking, you know, there FOIA is such an underutilized tool for the public.
	Um these agencies are supposed to work for us.
	They um you know, supposed to protect our chosen representative.
	And this was an absolute fail, uh, an intentional failure.
	And there were a lot of answers that we weren't getting.
	And so I uh started looking into filing our FOIA requests and thinking about all of the questions that were still left on the table.
	Um, and clearly they have documentation of all this.
	They've had more than two weeks to investigate this, more than two weeks of communications, and even before that, um, you know, as as you'll get into uh all the safety plans that were implemented ahead of time, all of this is critical to figuring out what happened and at what point things were changed to allow this to occur.
	And so uh, you know, you and I have been working for the last week to put together this list, and it was really just aggregating everybody's outstanding questions and thinking about what sorts of records that we could request that would help answer them.
	Um, so you know, we're going through there's there's a lot we've requested here, and uh I can imagine this would be a hefty, hefty production if we get a lot of it.
	Well, I'm I'm gonna read all the requests in the document.
	Like I said, I I just started the broadcast, so I'm gonna let uh the audience build here uh on Rumble and on X, so as many people can get this information as possible.
	But just some kind of introduction to this.
	How many times has Secret Service been FOIA's?
	A lot, actually.
	Um, you know, I was looking back, they they published records a few years old, um, all the requests that they've received.
	And I just happened to look at 2021, and there were dozens of FOIA requests on January 6th alone after that, a lot of times from media, sometimes from the public.
	This happens a lot, and um, you know, some are successful, usually it's a combination of uh uh, you know, granted and denied.
	Um, and you know, the ones that are granted, sometimes we see that in the news, and people get really great uh success from FOIA requests.
	I mean, the the FOIA requests that they did against Pfizer, where we have all those damning documents.
	That that was a huge success story.
	You know, part of the problem is a lot of people when they get denied aren't willing to keep fighting and keep pushing and really, you know, take this as far as it can go.
	Um, and so you know, we don't see it used as much because they do they do make it difficult.
	You know, they come back, they deny you, and people either don't have the resources or the know-how to keep fighting, especially if you're just a person republicing uh repressing records that might be controversial or they don't want you to see.
	So um they they do get FOIA'd a lot, whether or not they actually comply how with with uh, you know, the law and how they're supposed to respond is is I'm not quite sure how often people actually get what they're looking for.
	Well, I mean, obviously they're gonna try to stonewall as much of this information as possible.
	Do you know if anybody else has FOIA'd for the information that uh we have requested?
	I don't.
	I I do know that uh for uh is it America First Legal had submitted a FOIA shortly after the I mean a couple days after the assassination attempt, I think only on diversity equity and inclusion.
	At least that's what I saw.
	And I I saw the only um news story that I saw about it was that Secret Service had tried to stonewall them, saying that was it wasn't uh as as much in the public interest to necessitate turning it over as quickly.
	They were trying to delay the whole thing and not turn it over within the the 20 days or however long they have to respond.
	So that that was the one story I heard was America First Legal, and and to give them credit, they do a lot of great work with FOIA as well.
	I mean, dozens uh filed by them.
	But uh, in terms of the uh safety plans and everything that we're asking for here, I haven't seen anybody else request it.
	That doesn't mean they haven't, and maybe they're just waiting to see if they get any information to go public with it.
	Uh the the best um, the only other request that I've seen was uh oh my gosh, maybe you can help me that congressman who got some of that body cam footage uh oh, grassly, yes.
	And so that wasn't exactly a FOIA request.
	That was just, you know, a personal request to FBI and um Department of Homeland Security to get some of those records.
	But in terms of FOIA from the public from an advocacy group, I haven't seen anything else like ours.
	Well, that's a true uh game breaker then.
	And I give you big credit for that.
	I give the 1776 Law Center big credit for that as well, because it's a pretty fair assumption to make.
	I mean, I don't I wouldn't even say it's an assumption.
	I would say it's it's pretty much a guarantee that there's definitely at least other body cam footage from that day at a minimum.
	And then I would assume, just from other experts I've talked to, people in law enforcement and security.
	Now the Secret Service claims they don't have any radio communications recorded, could be true.
	If that's true, then that's just a dereliction of their duty.
	But it's very likely that the local law enforcement does have their radio communications or some form of audio from that day.
	So these could be two key bits of information that we could get access to.
	Now I am curious because what's kind of developed in the last week is it looks like the local law enforcement, the police from Pennsylvania are more willing to talk to America, the media answer questions.
	Maybe they have questions of their own, versus the complete n silence, the virtual silence that we've gotten from Secret Service.
	So could we have an instance here where we get cooperation from the local law enforcement, the police in Pennsylvania and then don't from Secret Service.
	Is that a potential situation?
	Absolutely because actually so the the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Act is a federal law.
	And so we filed under FOIA to the Secret Service as a federal agency.
	We filed under Pennsylvania law um with the Butler um Bureau of Police.
	And so absolutely and I I've noticed that too I mean I haven't done as deep of a dive as you have I'm sure but I've noticed too that they've more information has come out from them.
	They sat down with some interview for some interviews and you know their reputation's on the line here too.
	And you know I could definitely see more cooperation from them just to say you know hey may maybe they didn't realize it was going on that day.
	Maybe they tried to do the job I I don't know.
	And so I think if they respond and Secret Service doesn't which I think is a very um likely potential I think that's a story in and of itself right that these and we'll know too that these records exist.
	You can't tell me that the Butler police department has records that Secret Service and the FBI don't have and so I think it'll be really interesting and sort of undermine the Secret Service's case if they try to fight this if the Butler police department complies and gives us some of this information.
	So you know I we had originally talked about you and I found the Secret Service we expanded it to Butler police department for that exact reason because I'm sure they have these same records if not a lot of them and um you know I'd like to see what they were told too ahead of time and on the day of and after the fact.
	So I think it'll be interesting to see the difference in how the two agencies respond.
	How quickly could we hear back in response to this so the Butler police department has to respond to us within five days they don't necessarily have to turn everything over in five days um they can give us you know tell us what they're granting what they're going to deny a lot of times FOIA records come out on a rolling basis.
	So it could take, you know, up to weeks or sometimes months to get information, depending on what you work out.
	But they're going to respond first.
	I mean, so five business days, we'll be hearing from them early next week.
	The Secret Service has 20 days to respond to us.
	And again, same deal with the Secret Service.
	They'll have to respond, but they won't necessarily have to turn anything over by then.
	So, you know, I think that timeline there is also interesting, too, because if the Butler PD um complies with our our request that puts Secret Service and in quite a pickle because then there's information out there and they haven't, you know, they haven't had a chance to reject us yet.
	So there's a chance that myself the 1776 law center whatever avenues we choose to put this out I mean obviously I'll be reporting this on InfoWars and anybody that wants to have me or yourself as a guest there's a chance we could have information as soon as next week you're saying yes yes if if they can get records together and get things back to us in a timely manner then absolutely and it depends on the volume of information they have you know and how easily I'm but this this is like this is fresh,
	you know, so it might take time to to um sort it all out and get it to us but yeah I mean they could start rolling over records um for things that they're willing to turn over as early as next week.
	Well and I'm hoping and again this is this is kind of the tactic here I'm hoping that as you said the local police the local law enforcement their reputation is on the line here as well and it seems like they care more to protect that than the Secret Service.
	And so maybe they kind of have an attitude at this stage which is look you know we want to cooperate as much as possible.
	We have nothing to hide you know the assassination attempt we don't want it to fall on us.
	We want people to trust us and know that we were trying our best but hey look here's everything we have from this day you can reach your own conclusions I mean I I could see them wanting to cooperate as much as they possibly can with this given the fact that you've had multiple police officers from that day do television interviews.
	You had them, I believe it was local law enforcement that shared the footage with Chuck Grassley.
	So there's already been a level of cooperation from the from the Pennsylvania law enforcement side where we've had nothing from Secret Service.
	So they might have an inclination to cooperate with this as soon as possible.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I think that's a great, there's a great possibility that that's the way it goes.
	And like you said, they're they're not being invasive in like Secret Services.
	So that leads me to believe, you know, they they would probably act in better faith to request like this than Secret Service would.
	Um I mean, that that's what I'm expecting at least.
	And uh, you know, they'll they'll have a lot of records on this.
	They've done multiple rallies uh with President Trump's team, uh, multiple other rallies for for other people protected by Secret Service.
	So, you know, they've this is not their first rodeo.
	They'll have they'll have records of safety um protocols, all that stuff.
	So I think all of that's going to be really interesting to get from them.
	And I hope that there's, I mean, there's there's a lot of stuff that, you know, I I can't under I can't even fathom how that they would justify not giving to us.
	Yeah, or again, they they might be happy to give us what we requested just to kind of be like, hey, look, we're cooperating.
	We want to clear our name, we want to clear our reputation, whereas Secret Service appears to have the motive to stay on the hush hush about whatever happened on their end that day.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, no, I'm I'm sure, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of people at Butler PD, um, just from what based off what we've seen that are that have their own questions about how all of this transpired.
	And uh I I hope that that translates into willingness to cooperate with the people who are trying to figure it out, figure it out as well.
	Well, and and generally speaking, because I know you did some background research before filing this, uh, I I would guess that local law enforcement police officers, uh, those local jurisdictions are more willing to cooperate with FOIA's than Secret Service, just generally speaking.
	Is that accurate?
	That was my impression.
	Um it's a little difficult.
	They don't have the same public records on whether things are granted or denied, at least not that I was able to find.
	But um, but yeah, I mean, my my understanding, you know, based off of just you know what FOIA knowledge I have is that sometimes going through the local jurisdictions, the state jurisdictions can be a little bit easier to get access to things.
	All right.
	Well, like I said, I'm I'm just kind of letting the live audience build up here as we're live on X and live on Rumble as well.
	We're speaking to Lexis Anderson, my legal representation in my defense and now legal offense as well from 1776 Law Center.com.
	And and so, folks, just so you know, um, this is the work that the 1776 Law Center is doing with the great Bob Barnes.
	And when you go to Owen Defense.com, this is the type of work that you are funding as well.
	So it's not just defending me when I get uh ridiculously sued, uh, frivolous lawsuits flying left and right at me.
	Not only does this work to defend me, we've now decided we're also going on the offense.
	And we've also had success stories with people issuing retractions, and now we're filing this FOIA request.
	So uh the 1776 Law Center, Owen Schreuer putting together a good team.
	And uh that's what you fund when you go to 1776 Law Center.com or Owen Defense.com.
	Uh Lexus, I'm gonna I'm gonna just wait another minute or two here before I read off all of the demands we make in the FOIA for for the live audience to catch up.
	Uh, but but just generally speaking, you know, talk about some of the victories that you guys have had at 1776 Law Center.
	Yeah, so um we have uh at this point dozens of vaccine mandate cases.
	Um we we've managed to get settlements for a lot of our clients so far, successful outcomes.
	And um, so that that's been really great.
	We have a lot of those that we're continuing to litigate.
	We have a lot of really great opinions on religious freedoms come out of that.
	We're sort of seeing the tide turn in the court system right now uh toward, you know, in favor of religious freedoms in the workplace because they were under such attacks during COVID.
	So that's been really great to see On the DEI front, we actually have uh a new lawsuit that we filed against Red Hat, which is a subsidiary of um IBM.
	And so I don't know if you remember uh James O'Keefe had done that great expose of IBM um and them talking about their diversity quotas.
	And uh essentially we filed a lawsuit for um uh racial and gender discrimination for firing uh one of their white male employees.
	And um, so we're kind of fighting on the DEI front.
	It'll be interesting.
	That's one of the first lawsuits that have that's sort of been initiated in that space in that context.
	Um let's see, we have uh several um ongoing ongoing cases for Amos Miller, the Amish farmer out in Pennsylvania.
	Um they're still battling, but you know, we were able to keep them at bay from stopping him from selling all of his raw milk products, which was a great win.
	Uh, we're still fighting that out and appealing, appealing their um uh awful decisions on some of his uh what what he can and can't sell out there.
	So we're all over this place, but um, but those are kind of the primary cases that I'm working on.
	Um, and then uh this is a really fun one for me to take up as well.
	I mean, all these cases are so huge.
	You know, we're talking about medical freedom, we're talking about food freedom, and now we're talking about freedom of information.
	So I mean, these are all big cases.
	And so that's why I'm glad to team up with the 1776 law center to uh to go after this.
	And and I'm reading some of the comments now.
	People are already saying that uh they don't expect Secret Service to cooperate.
	Hey, look, maybe Secret Service doesn't cooperate, but that's why we went after local law enforcement for information too.
	I mean, I I get the feeling that the local law enforcement is gonna want to cooperate, at least to some extent.
	Um so before I get do get into the exact details of this, so I mean, what can Secret Service do?
	Can they just deny it?
	Can they just say no?
	I mean, how is that even legal?
	They can.
	They they they certainly can try to deny it.
	Um now there are a number, well, I say a number, there are a few exceptions that they could invoke uh to try to keep information from the public, but those are fairly narrowly construed.
	Um I think there are a total of seven exceptions that they could um or seven justifications for denying requests.
	Now, as I mentioned previously, you know, a lot of times when they deny requests, uh people don't continue to fight it.
	Um, but but FOIA litigation is a very, very real thing.
	I mean, that's that's how we got the fired Pfizer documents from FOIA.
	Of course, Pfizer didn't want to hand all those over.
	They tried to say that they wouldn't give them to the the requesters for 75 years.
	And the judge had to step in and say, no, that's ridiculous.
	You need to start giving them their documents that they asked for now.
	Um so you know, we're not afraid of getting into that sort of fight.
	They can certainly try to to refuse to hand over these documents.
	If if they do so to such a crazy extent, then then fine, we'll take it up in a court and and uh let a judge decide.
	Um a judge doesn't have any, well, I hope doesn't have any sort of stake in that, you know.
	And so they they can deny it outright to a certain extent, but um, you know, if they're up against someone who's willing to fight it out, then then really it goes to a court.
	All right, I want to get into the actual details.
	So uh folks, just get ready.
	There's a lot here.
	I'm gonna read directly from our FOIA request.
	There's a lot in it.
	And then um Lexus, if you just want to interrupt me and stop me to focus on any of the bullet points that I have here, as I have it up on the screen now.
	Um, the PDF that you sent me.
	So if you want to stop me at any point to maybe go into something further, I'm just gonna read from all of the bullet points.
	Um this is to this is to Secret Service.
	This is the Freedom of Information Act that we have filed myself, 1776 Law Center, Lexus Anderson with us on the phone.
	To the Secret Service.
	All records maintained by Secret Service related to President Donald Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania and his attempted assassination, including but not limited to all records related to the selection of the date and the venue of the event.
	All records related to the preparation or planning for the event, all records reflecting procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event.
	Intelligence briefings and officer safety bulletins that were distributed in advance of the event.
	Now, this is actually curious bullet point D here Because the local police said Secret Service refused to meet with them that morning.
	Yeah, that came out this week, didn't it?
	That that's fascinating.
	And so, you know, uh, we we did request communications between them, but um, yeah, I I'd like that I I think I but again though they should have in you know spread out or spread some um safety protocols or safety plans ahead of time.
	Um so that's what the sort of goes to.
	But isn't that interesting?
	I mean, how do you not meet with the local law enforcement?
	Well, it's unheard of the event.
	It's completely unheard of.
	And and didn't they not even, you know, they didn't even do final walks of the event or even start prepping until just before.
	I mean, to not come up with some sort of plan after everything is set and situated and you have an out idea of the layout and the vantage points uh of such a venue, I mean, is absolutely ridiculous.
	Yeah, and the local police officers even said it was unheard of for them to not do that walkthrough or not have that meeting.
	We continue, and so I don't know, maybe this gives us an answer as to why.
	We continue.
	All records concerning the US, excuse me, the use of U.S. government funds to provide security and or any other services to President Trump and any companions during his travel and campaign event, all records related to the number of Secret Service agents and personnel and the identity of those individuals who approved the security plan for the event.
	Again, getting into the identity of the people that plan this, I think is important.
	Um well, something that jumped out at me when uh Ken Cheadle was on the stand during the hearing was that she was incredibly vague about who was signing off on these security plans.
	Obviously, you're being kind.
	I mean, she gave vague.
	That would be insinuating that she answered in some way, shape, or form.
	Yeah.
	I aside from saying that she apparently never signs or looked at the security plans, um, we didn't get any other information from her.
	But yeah, she alluded to the fact that there were several people that signed it, but it fluctuates and it depends, and there's a whole group of people who have to look at it.
	Well, I want to know exactly who signed on the dotted line for these and how many iterations there were, and whether they changed throughout the preparation for the event.
	Because, you know, one one of the outstanding questions is was this was this a spur of the moment, you know, order to stand down on on the on the day of was this planned in riding ahead of time, and who signed off on it and what did they sign off on?
	So I think that one, you know, to the security plan, that one's really interesting because I want to see whose signatures are on there.
	Well, and and you know what's gonna be even crazier about this, um, because it's been alluded to by others, including former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino on his show, but other former Secret Service agents have gone public as well.
	The individual, if Kim Cheadle was truly ignorant to all this, and let's just give her the benefit of the doubt for this conversation.
	If Kim Cheadle was truly hands off for this event, then it would have fallen onto Ron Rowe.
	Well, Ron Rowe is now in charge of the Secret Service.
	He's now the one that replaced Kim Cheadle.
	Great.
	That's great.
	Well, this is the this is the worry with, you know, I I understand that, you know, the congressional hearings, I appreciate some of the good questions asked, but they have their pound of flesh now.
	She has resigned, which is what most of them wanted.
	And um the fear is, you know, I know there's another committee looking into it, but the fear is that for a lot of people that's gonna be enough.
	For a lot of our our Congress uh men and women, that's gonna be that's gonna be fine, you know, it's business as usual after that.
	And then um, so you know, that's that's what we're aiming to get at here is there's still there's still very obvious issues and corruption and other people that were involved, and especially like you said, she wasn't the one who signed off on this, then who did.
	Well, and let me also say that I uh folks, I believe that if this was truly let's say there was a deep-seated plan um to have Trump killed that day, then he was supposed to be dead today.
	And so they're reeling right now in their failed assassination attempt.
	And so we need to go in now.
	We need to go in while their defenses are weak.
	Because it'd be one thing if Trump was dead, then it'd be like, okay, they they succeeded in their mission.
	Whatever gets exposed after that, they really almost don't even care about.
	They got Trump.
	That would be all they cared about.
	Well, they didn't get Trump, and now they're reeling as they're being exposed in the aftermath.
	So that that's that's gonna be a very important one to talk about um who who signed off on all of this or who was responsible for the communication failures.
	And if it's Ron Rowe, well then now he needs to be called for a hearing And he probably needs to resign next.
	All right, so let's move on.
	All records related to the number of Secret Service agents and personnel and the identity of those individuals responsible for attendance at the event.
	I may have just repeated that.
	I'm sorry.
	Uh all this is a big this is the big stuff.
	All video footage, including but not limited to surveillance camera footage, helicopter footage, and body camera footage recorded at or near the site of event by Secret Service agents, law enforcement, or any other member of security present at the event.
	All video footage obtained by or in the possession of Secret Service recorded at or near the site of the event by members of the public or attendees at the event, all records of communications between Secret Service personnel on July 13th, 2024, including but not limited to radio communications, text messages, and emails.
	All records of communications with Butler City Police Department or any other state or local law enforcement agency in preparation for during and following the event.
	All right, a couple of highlights as we get into this.
	All right, you know, the video stuff, the audio stuff, that kind of speaks for itself.
	But here's an interesting note, and and this is probably this is going to be an interesting one.
	So it's it's I know this from experience.
	It's more likely that the federal government is in possession of any third-party videos from that day.
	And I I know this from personal experience because whenever I go out, we have security that has body cam footage.
	And so we've been subpoenaed for that body cam footage before.
	And so we turn it over, but that goes to the federal government.
	That doesn't go to local law enforcement.
	So it's likely that there are people there that had security footage, at least one of their own.
	It's likely that there's other there's just other footage that people have that maybe the federal government has that local police don't.
	So when the feds take over these investigations, they get all of that third-party footage almost immediately if they're doing a serious investigation.
	Um how do we get access to that if Secret Service denies us?
	That that we might have to fight out via litigation.
	Um if Butler, if the Butler Police Department really doesn't have it, um, and you know, that that's something Secret Service, I could I could very easily believe that they would not want to give up.
	Um, especially because, you know, especially that third party footage, like you said, because they have zero control over what was filmed at that point.
	But I can guarantee you they would want to know exactly what people saw and exactly what kind of evidence is out there, uh, especially as you said that they're panicking right now and trying to clean all this up.
	And so we know we have it, so in that that part might just take litigation if um the local law enforcement doesn't have it, unfortunately.
	All right, moving on again.
	This is Lexis Anderson with us from the 1776 Law Center.
	We're going through the text of our FOIA request to get this information regarding to the assassination attempt on President Trump.
	All records related to previous requests made by President Trump, his staff or campaign team for Secret Service or support from January 2021 through the date of processing.
	All records or documents maintained by Secret Service related to President Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania 2016 regarding the preparation or planning for the event, procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event, the number and identity of Secret Service agents and personnel who approved the security plan for the event, and the number of identity of USS agents and personnel on duty at the event.
	I I think maybe it's worth translating this.
	So basically, in in bullet point three, you're trying to determine what the different approach was between 2016 and 2024.
	Is that correct?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Because he had a rally in 2016 at the exact same venue.
	Um, and so I I would like to see, you know, did did they have a Secret Service team stationed on top of that building?
	What was the protocol?
	How many agents were there?
	Who were those agents?
	When I what was the breakdown?
	Um, yeah, exactly.
	I I want to be able to compare and see, because there I feel like there's a good chance that there is a stark difference in the Secret Service personnel and the layout of those personnel in 2016 versus uh 2024.
	And I would say the big smoking gun, if you will, no pun intended, in the difference is gonna be who was on the roof.
	Was there Secret Service on that roof in 2016, and then why not in 2024?
	My my assumption would be that's gonna be the big story should they cooperate here.
	All records or documents maintained by Secret Service related to President Trump's campaign event at the Pittsburgh Butler Regional Airport in October 2020 regarding the preparation and planning for the event, the personnel numbers at the event, all correspondence to or from former director Kimberly Cheadle from January 2021 through the date of processing related to the protection of and the Secret Service detail assigned to President Trump.
	You know, let me just pause right there for a second.
	I'm curious.
	It would be my understanding that there's really no way to do this.
	Um if Cheadle lied under oath and was using an encrypted messaging service to communicate with people about um business.
	Is there even any way to figure that out?
	Is there any way for us to even find that out or get that, or is that just gone?
	Oh, did she deny using that?
	I didn't see that part.
	She did.
	Oh, I I'm I'm not really sure.
	I'm not really sure.
	Uh but that's something we should definitely look into.
	I mean, my guess is no, that's the whole point of it being encrypted, but uh it'd be interesting to know if she at least I mean you couldn't find the communications, but maybe know if she was using them.
	I I guess that's be where you would go from that.
	All records and correspondence relating or referring to the individual individual Thomas Crooks, all records and correspondence between Secret Service personnel, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland Security related to the assassination attempt, all records or documents maintained by the Secret Service related to Joe Biden's campaign event in Pittsburgh on the same day.
	Uh what's what are we searching for there?
	Well, so I I've heard allegations, and maybe you can though these are firmer allegations now that uh some of the Secret Service agents were diverted to her event over in Pittsburgh rather than Donald Trump's event in Butler.
	Um so I again I would like to see similar to the the uh justification for seeking the 2016 records, the differences in their security plans.
	I mean, Joe Biden's event was tiny in comparison.
	Um any normal person, any rational person would uh would say that Donald Trump's event deserved the the best and brightest and the highest number of security.
	Um just based on the volume of attendees, the fact that it was outdoors versus Joe Biden's indoor event.
	So yeah, I'd like to see the difference and the comparison and again, and you know, the the planning behind that and uh who diverted those Secret Service agents and who determined a security plan for hers as well.
	Yeah, and I think you'll find exactly what you expect.
	It was an event with five percent of the attendance, one percent of the threat level, and probably had four times this amount as uh attention.
	At least that's what uh is being talked about right now.
	All records related to Secret Service efforts to set and implement radical and gender quotas, including diversity, equity, and inclusion goals and hiring processes since 2021.
	Yeah, and I guess that's what uh the America First Legal has filed as well.
	So we'll see what kind of happens uh in response to that.
	But yeah, I mean, they're obviously doing that.
	We just want to see the records.
	Um I would say we just really want to see the records.
	And by the way, and and we'll move on to the local uh element of this now.
	We do they they released text messages, uh, but again, those were from local police.
	Those are from local police.
	So, and it talks about how they warned Secret Service that there was a sniper on the roof.
	They warned him, they warned him that there was a guy going on.
	They said, tell Secret Service to be on the lookout for a suspicious individual.
	He's on the roof.
	Yeah, the Butler PD, I mean, that's that's that's damning, and that's crazy.
	I mean, they're not gonna want to take the fall for this.
	And they're gonna see the people doubting the narrative and questioning all of this and trying, you know, trying to figure out who's at fault.
	Um, the smart thing for Butler BD to do would be to comply with the public and and let people know and give us give us their records, show that they they had nothing to do with this.
	Um, and that, you know, they they acted to the best of their ability on that day.
	Um, but that's that's crazy.
	I mean, that must be insanely frustrating and and to to them and um just just infuriating to to go through that sort of experience, have those have those records.
	And the fact that they're willing to release that to the public, I think is very telling towards their attitude to this situation.
	You also request um for any political bias, uh proof of political bias inside.
	So um, I don't know how they would even turn something like that over, but also an interesting request.
	All right, I want to move on to uh The request to the local law enforcement, that is the Pennsylvania law enforcement.
	Public record review duplication request for records related to the assassination attempt of Donald Trump.
	Uh and this one goes to all records maintained by the city of Butler or the Bureau related to President Donald Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania, and the attempted assassination.
	All records related to the selection of the date and the venue of the event, all records related to the preparation or planning of the event, all records reflecting procedures for protecting the health and safety of President Trump during the event, intelligence briefings and officer safety bulletins that were distributed to or from Butler City Police Department.
	All records concerning the use of Pennsylvania government funds to provide security and services to the event, all records related to the number of officers and personnel and identity at the event.
	Um all video.
	It's largely similar.
	Yeah.
	All video footage, all audio footage, all communications records.
	So it's basically it's virtually a a copy and paste, but this one uh to Butler County.
	And so again, though, for the new audience, um, how long does the local law enforcement that would be Pennsylvania, Butler County in this case, have to respond, and how long does Secret Service have to respond to these requests?
	Local law enforcement and Butler has five business days to respond to us.
	Um we don't have to they don't have to give all the records, but they do have to let us know whether you know they they approve of our request or deny it and then you know start rolling production and then um uh Secret Service has 20 days to respond.
	So folks, that means there is a chance we could have some answers by next week, at least from Butler County.
	And so some of this stuff could be big.
	I mean, again, communications would tell us a big story, more video could tell us a big story, more body cam footage could tell us a big story.
	Um the communications between local law enforcement and secret service or lack their of could tell us a big story.
	Uh I mean, these are this is the information that they refuse to answer to when it came to the hearings.
	So this is why we've decided to file this FOIA request.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And I think uh, you know, like you said, the the omissions or like the the missing information, the lack of communication is it, you know, not as telling, but very, very telling, just like the communications would be.
	Um, I think that, you know, there's there's a lot of potential for just, you know, especially comparing the you know old um old rally to the new rally, a lot of potential for comparison there to see where the slip ups were, um, and really I don't know at what point it happened,
	you know, how far in advance of the rally on the day of uh I think there's there we've requested everything we could think of, and I think you know, there's there's so much potential to really expose some of those um underlying questions that we just don't have answers to yet.
	So a man died because of this.
	Um there hasn't been anybody.
	I mean, are are we looking at a situation where you could look at criminal negligence potentially here?
	I mean, what what are some other follow-up um charges, even or I mean, what can happen to write this wrong should we find wrongs from this from this request?
	I yeah, I think I think potentially, I mean, uh potentially the family could do something along those lines.
	Um, I I think that certainly needs to be investigated, though, because I think criminal negligence is exactly the type of thing that they need to go after these people for, especially once we figure out and determine, you know, who was responsible for this uh intentional stand down.
	Um, you know, I think, yeah, the the family could look into something like that, but then our government really too should be looking at uh holding these people accountable.
	The fact that they're not answering more questions, and you know, I I think sadly, that that element has to mean overlooked a bit in that, you know, yeah, we're all very thankful and and grateful that President Trump survived.
	Um, but the fact that there was a death because of their failure here um is really abhorrent.
	And this is why I hope that, you know, aside from just the obvious corruption here, this is why uh another reason why I hope people don't give up on on figuring out what went down here because there were severe consequences.
	We're lucky the other two people who were shot uh were more seriously injured and didn't die themselves.
	So um, you know, this this part of the reason why we we need to keep digging into this and and get justice for that family too, in addition to the American people who were almost stripped of of uh any sort of of of their political nominee um in November.
	Yeah, I mean, you almost had a situation where both nominees would not have received a single vote.
	You already have that on the Democrat side with Kamala Harris, nobody voted for her.
	Yeah.
	Uh and so I mean, just think about talk about a banana republic.
	Uh, should that situation have unfolded?
	Uh, fortunately, it it didn't.
	Uh, yeah, I mean, I don't even know if you can reach out to the families, maybe they can put a little momentum behind this.
	Um, I I believe that the two shooting victims have been released from the ICU now.
	I think the last one was just released today.
	Uh and they Oh, really, I didn't hear that.
	That's fantastic news.
	Yeah, I believe he was just released today, a a veteran.
	So it'd be one thing if this was like some master sniper taking a shot from a mile away.
	But we have enough information that shows that there was such a failure of either criminal incompetence or negligence or something much worse.
	Uh, and so that's why this has to be pressed forward.
	I mean, I don't know if you saw the recent video footage, and I'm attempting to get this guy on, but there are people running around like crazy, screaming there's a guy on the roof, screaming he has a gun for at least five minutes, at least five minutes before he takes a shot.
	You've got law enforcement running around looking for a way to get on the roof, looking dazed and confused.
	Oh, what do we do?
	There's this guy on the roof, he's like untouchable, he's like invincible.
	We don't know what to do.
	So it's and Trump is still sitting on the stage, nobody neutralizes him.
	So it's like this isn't some master shot from a mile away.
	This guy's sitting up there on the roof, a known threat for at least an hour, five minutes directly to the president and the crowd, and nothing gets done.
	Well, it's a fair, I think you know, just days after the event, there were like what, two or three people interviewed saying that they were they were yelling at police officers and law enforcement on the ground who saw him ahead of time, climbing the ladder, getting up there, setting everything up.
	The whole thing is so absurd.
	And I saw that video of the police officers like not figuring out how to get through a fence.
	They had to ramp through it after the whole thing.
	The whole thing was just embarrassing.
	Um, you know, it definitely seems like you know, there's certainly an intentional cover up, you know, an intentional behind the scenes component.
	There's also just a negligence component because there's no way that every single law enforcement officer there was in on it, but then so many of them were just didn't even know what to do.
	Um, so the this whole thing was was a massive failure.
	Um, how they I and you know, the the the frustrating part is is that they just don't even they don't even try to to hide it.
	I mean, to to come out and say that Secret Service wasn't on the roof that day because of the heat.
	I I mean, do they really think that people are going to buy that?
	Do they really think that people are going to accept that sort of thing?
	Well, it's even worse justification.
	It's even worse than that because let's just say, okay, it was too hot for them on the roof.
	Well, okay, what about the other teams that obviously didn't leave their posts on the roof?
	What about the thousand tens of thousands of people that were standing out in the heat all day and and stayed around for Trump's rally?
	But but I mean, that's kind of okay.
	Let's push that aside, even.
	The they're claiming that they had eyes on the second story of the building right behind where the shooter was located.
	So this is what makes it even crazier.
	So where are your eyes on the second story of the building right behind that would have seen him on the roof pointing a gun at Trump in the crowd?
	I mean, he would have been neutralized like in an instant, should have been neutralized in an instant, considering that's what you're claiming is that's where your that's where your secret service was located since they abandoned their post.
	But the building itself that he's climbing all over is the Secret Service law enforcement headquarters.
	It's their damn headquarters.
	They're walking in and out.
	They've got dozens, if not hundreds of agents headquartered right there.
	The building he's shooting on.
	I mean, it's like it doesn't get more ridiculous.
	No, he's banging around on the metal roof up there, and and not a single person knows.
	People are on the on the ground yelling at law enforcement, trying to get their attention, and and nobody blinks an eye.
	There's so much here that you're just like, how what how how did this happen?
	You know, it's like that this is why everyone right at the beginning was like, this just smells so much and it just seems so intentional because there's no way that there's so much negligence to lead to this sort of thing.
	Um no, and there's there's so many outstanding questions.
	And you're right, they're they're stationed right there.
	Who was supposed to be there?
	Why weren't they there?
	Were they there?
	I mean, these are all things that that security camera footage and communications and security plan would reveal.
	Um, you know, who was supposed to be where and uh who would have seen what was going on or should have seen what was going on and didn't do anything about it.
	Okay, so uh last question for the evening, and we'll let you go.
	So uh because people are already saying that they're going to uh refuse the requests, they're gonna say can't share this information with you, let's say ongoing investigation.
	So what what do we do in that case?
	What do we do if they stonewall and don't give us what we request?
	Yeah, and and then you know, like I said earlier, I expect to for uh for at least a lot of these records, that's exactly what they're going to do.
	I'd be I'd be shocked if they just hand it over uh, you know, the black box to us.
	Um in that case, we you know, we file suit and um we initiate some FOIA litigation and try to compel the disclosure of the documents and the records that we've requested.
	Um and you know, like I said, legally speaking, there are, you know, certain exceptions that they can invoke to not hand over records.
	Uh, but there are certainly a lot of things that we've asked for that would not fall under that purview.
	And and not to mention, you know, even if there are certain things where you would um, you know, there's sensitive information or like you said, like, you know, information that would be uh used for an ongoing investigation, it could impact um any sort of charges brought down the road.
	Then they they could uh you know redact those sections or blur out certain things.
	I mean, they're entitled to do that.
	Um sometimes they have used that privilege, but they're you know, they're they're entitled to do that.
	But if they don't turn over anything, um, if they don't even give us the stuff that even redacted that, you know, communications um so we can see, you know, like time and and for who who was talking to who at what time?
	I mean, if they really don't comply at all, then we have a good leg to stand on.
	And um, you know, like I said, a lot of this uh wouldn't fall under those exceptions, and they should comply with that.
	So, you know, long story short, if if they refuse to comply, especially at all, um, we can initially initiate litigation against them and try to get a court order that says that they have to hand it over.
	You know, here's actually one more thing.
	Um, you know, Andrew Torba from Gab recently published some posts that may have been made by crooks as he was reached out to by law enforcement, I guess with maybe an IP address or some some information that they wanted him to look into to see if there was any posting associated with it.
	And he did find that there were posts on Gab uh that were pro-Biden posts from uh allegedly crooks.
	And so uh is there any avenue of because you know, the even the shooter on the roof, crooks, which I'm like, was it even crooks?
	Was he a patsy?
	Was there were there other people involved?
	Who is even the guy on the roof?
	It's like even that's a mystery.
	Like we know nothing about this kid, like nothing at all.
	I mean, where is there any way to get information or subpoena?
	I mean, where where can we potentially get information on the shooter that's seemingly like a a ghost?
	On the shooter himself.
	Um I I mean, we at the moment really wouldn't have any grounds to subpoena anybody.
	Um that really should be the role of whoever's doing this investigation.
	But the trouble is we don't, you know, trust them to either do the job or relay to the public what they've learned.
	Um and you know, if there is a request in here asking for any information that they have on that individual, because I'm assuming that they've done their, you know, some research after the fact and and you know, the fact, but the fact that his social media it hasn't have they ever detected anything.
	It seems like the whole thing has just been scrubbed for a young kid like that.
	That seems incredibly rare, if not impossible.
	Um, from our vantage point, it it, you know, you can't just subpoena this a third party uh with with no other ongoing litigation or incentive would would be difficult non-impossible.
	But so it's I don't know.
	I think throughout time, I I hope it information comes out about this person.
	I'm shocked that two weeks later, we still know as little as we do.
	Well, so it'd be up to the law enforcement investigation, which is the FBI at this point to ask for footage from say the shooting range he went to or the home depot he went to or anything else like that, uh, revolving around the incident.
	And so who knows if we'll ever even get access to that.
	But it seems impossible that this guy's digital footprint was next to nothing.
	Uh it just it's it's not impossible, but I mean it's very unlikely that it was next to nothing.
	So there's even a mystery element to the shooter uh himself with with everything else that was going on and some theories that maybe it wasn't even it wasn't even crooks.
	Uh, but that's all mystery.
	Yeah, a lot three is about about his uh shooting ability.
	And you know, I I don't know how true rumors about you know his high school team and stuff like that are again a lot of a lot of.
	That's apparently all been debunked and that he was not a part of it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, and but again, there's there's not any transparency.
	There are all these, you know, rumors and and people trying to figure out what's going on.
	And and this is the problem, and I'm sure to some extent that they want it to be like that, right?
	They want this shroud of mystery.
	They want people believing all these theories that aren't true.
	Um to to hide the truth.
	But that this is the public is owed the truth.
	This was uh an incredible failure, an intentional failure.
	Um, and now there's a cover-up on by our own government.
	And so that I mean, that sort of thing is just completely unacceptable.
	Um, and uh, you know, it's it's it's good to see that people aren't people are not gonna sweep this under the rug.
	You know, we're not gonna let them.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's why uh this is important work that we've done here.
	And uh this FOIA request is important, and I wanted to put it out on Twitter or X rather for all to see.
	I wanted to bring you on again.
	This is my attorney Lexis Anderson from the 1776 Law Center.
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	Uh so I I'm engaged in legal defense, but now legal offense as well, dealing with this FOIA.
	So Owen Defense.com for that, 1776 Law Center.
	Lexus Anderson, thank you for your time tonight.
	And whenever you have an update with the FOIA, let my audience know.
	I certainly will.
	Thanks so much, Owen.
	Great to join you as usual.
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	Uh, Matt from Michigan.
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	Hi, Matt.
	I'm good.
	Hey, just wanted to call in real quick.
	Wanted to just tell you, I've been following you for over a decade.
	Uh, love what you do.
	Thank you for being so honest and you'll striving for integrity.
	I just wanted to comment on one thing that I really hate to bring up, but there was a lot of people in the chat saying that, you know, Trump did this himself.
	He set it up.
	There's a million reasons, six ways to Sunday, while you could prove this wrong.
	But I really commend a lot of the YouTubers, prominent YouTubers who have done ballistics on the whole situation.
	And it's just utterly ridiculous that people think that Trump would do something to bring them up in the polls when for the last six weeks, we all assumed we were going to run against Biden.
	Um, I just wanted to bring that up and just kind of hopefully put that to rest, at least in the chat, that if you're gonna bring this up, do the research, look at the ballistics, and really study the whole situation from abroad instead of just you know, uh calling out headlines and and and and and trying to be the the uh the uh the against the grain of of what actually happened,
	especially with in the last 48 hours, we've known that Google and Meta have been suppressing not only the photo of Donald Trump raising his fist after being shot, but suppressing the searches on Donald Trump's assassination.
	I mean, it all adds up.
	It's it's 2016 all over again.
	Um, but yeah, that's all I wanted to say, Owen.
	I I really appreciate you bringing me on and just wanted to say thank you.
	Thank you so much for standing in the light, the limelight of a lot of people who don't want it.
	And I just really appreciate it, brother.
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	Sure.
	Okay.
	Um, so so let me kind of give a full spectrum response because I know the commentary you're talking about, and I have people that I know and I I I respect and respect me that are telling me the same thing.
	They think the whole thing was staged.
	Now, let me before I get into that analysis, try to explain something that you alluded to.
	Where throughout the years, and I'm 35, I've been in broadcast media, I've been on air.
	You could say as a pro, I mean what what would make somebody a pro, I guess getting paid to go on air.
	So I've been a pro since I was 21.
	So young guy, 14 years of on-air experience, and I've I've learned a lot, and I've worked with a lot of top-class broadcasters and top-class producers and everything.
	And obviously, being at InfoWars with Alex Jones has been a learning experience in and of itself.
	And so some of the things I've learned before I respond directly to what you're talking about, I think it's worth explaining this.
	Here's some of the things I've learned.
	One I see all kinds of accusations that get made about Alex Jones.
	I see all types of assumptions that get made at Alex Jones.
	And I see people saying such things in high levels of confidence, almost absolute assuredness.
	And so witnessing that has really grounded me in so many ways to never assume something that I don't know, or never assume something about somebody, or at least take it public that I don't know.
	Because what this does is whenever people make these ridiculous assumptions or accusations about Alex Jones, and I see this, I immediately lose a level of respect for that person.
	And it's something that can never be gained back.
	And so I'm saying this as somebody that knows Alex personally.
	I know Alex professionally.
	I know what he is, I know what he isn't.
	And so when when I see people rushing to all these assumptions and accusations, many of them just wildly crazy, it's really honed my ability to not leap to any ridiculous assumptions or conclusions that I don't know.
	And look, we can speculate and talk about all things, but when I go on air, it's totally different.
	I don't want to go on air and jump to a conclusion about somebody that I don't know that other people might know and respect, and then make myself look like an idiot, as so many people have done about Alex Jones.
	And so I I hope that makes sense.
	Uh here's the other thing.
	I am, I am as about, I mean, really, it's not even like a good thing.
	It but it is what it is.
	I am addicted to media.
	I am consuming six to eight hours of media a day.
	Uh I mean, actively consuming secondhand consumption at another four.
	Like I'm just sitting at my house making dinner or something, and I've got the the I've got a wall of broadcast.
	I mean, my living room looks like a media production center.
	So I'm I mean, my whole life I'm consumed in media.
	I'm not exactly proud of it, but it's it's what I do to go on air.
	And so in that process, I'm absorbing so much information, and there's a lot of things, and and again, you just with my lawyer, where she was talking about some things, and and she does legal work.
	So this isn't uh this isn't uh an affront to her or anything, but she said some things about the developments into the Trump assassination that I knew had either been debunked or weren't true.
	And so I was just able to say, hey, no, that's not true.
	So here's what I'm saying.
	When I'm tuned into somebody's broadcast or I see somebody doing commentary or analysis, and they get something wrong, I immediately have to assume either they're lazy, they're not trying, or they do not care about accuracy.
	And so in that moment, again, I lose respect for that person.
	And I might never tune in again.
	And so I'm trying to avoid being that.
	And I understand people get frustrated because I get sent stuff all the time.
	They're like, oh, and why aren't you mentioning this?
	Why aren't you covering this?
	Why aren't you doing this?
	And the answer is, I just I don't know yet.
	I don't know yet.
	I need to know more, and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna jump out in front of something that that I don't know the weight behind it, the momentum behind it, because I could get crushed.
	And so it's kind of an adjustment that I've been making um steadily in the last couple of years to to where I'm at today.
	And I will also say, and this is kind of maybe out of left field and doesn't really pertain, I was listening to David Webb the other day, and David Webb says all kinds of things that I disagree with, but but I always respected him.
	And And the other day he attacked Mike Lindell and said, Mike Lindell needs to shut up, and he's a bad look for the Trump movement.
	And I'm sitting there thinking, I never want to listen to your broadcast again.
	Mike Lindell has put everything on the line.
	They're trying to destroy this man's life, and you're gonna tell him to shut up.
	I haven't tuned into him again again since.
	That was like two weeks ago.
	I used to listen to David Webb in the morning quite frequently.
	So uh so that's just kind of where I'm at and and what I bring to the air every day and my approach to the air every day.
	And so I I've kind of learned that a lot of people in media now, they want to be the first to report something, or they want to be the first with the new conspiracy angle.
	Whereas I've kind of taken a step back and said, No, I really just want to be the silver slugger every year.
	I want to hit for the highest batting average every time.
	And yeah, you know what?
	That means passing on some stories.
	Maybe that means passing on some what people might view as clickbait, but that's where I'm at, because I want you to be able to rely on me to bring you the information.
	I want you to be able to rely on me that I'm doing the legwork, and I don't want to put myself in a situation where I'm reporting on somebody or something without the proper background research, and then somebody informed hears that and says, Wow, I've lost all respect for this guy.
	So uh that being that you bring up the Trump staging his own assassination attempt.
	You know, I get where people are coming from with this.
	I really do.
	And now that his ear is completely healed, it's only going to make these um these theories amplified and seem to be reality.
	So I'm not going to comment on the heel to ear.
	Maybe it's strange.
	A man got shot and killed.
	Two other people got shot.
	I talked to over I talked to dozens of eyewitnesses that that saw this, saw bullets rip through people, saw bloody people getting carried out, uh, saw eyewitnesses to the guy climbing on the roof.
	So I mean for somebody to say it was staged to me is ludicrous.
	But I get it.
	I get it.
	This world is insane.
	Uh everything seems fake, the world is a stage, and so people just don't believe anything that they see at all.
	Um, but that's my response.
	I understand why people believe it.
	I don't think negatively of people that believe the whole thing was staged.
	I don't think negatively of people that believe the whole thing was staged.
	Terry, because if you believe it was staged, there's nothing that I can do or say or show you that's going to change your mind.
	I couldn't agree more, Owen.
	And I just want to say thank you so much for giving that response.
	And just to just to touch on a couple of things that you mentioned, you know, you being with Alex Jones and being with him for so long, you've known him from a professional standpoint and a personal standpoint.
	I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir.
	It's the cross you bear.
	And whether it's fortunate or unfortunately, your demographic, your crowd, your audience, your followers is the silent majority.
	I know so many people firsthand in Michigan that listen to you, listen to Alex, and follow what you have to say, but they would dare to say it publicly.
	They would dare to bring it up at work.
	I just want to commend you and thank you so much for, like I said in my beginning uh initial response was the integrity, the honesty, and the fact that you've you've you kind of changed your tune a little bit on not reporting everything that immediately comes out,
	looking at the whole aspect of what is happening and waiting for the facts to you know to start laying down.
	And I you know, I couldn't have said it better myself.
	You're absolutely correct.
	And I give utmost respect to anyone who denies that this was done with intention, because like you have said for years, question everything.
	So, from someone who always questions everything, I can't not respect someone who questions this event.
	Because as you know, and as everyone knows, it's almost too good to be true.
	But I know what I believe.
	I know for roughly what you know what what you believe and what you stand for.
	And I just want to, you know, come on here for my first time and just tell you uh over the phone uh that you've got a lot of supporters in Michigan.
	A lot of the silent majority has really uh opened their ears to the alternative media.
	And the word that I spread, uh, you know, with my very small circle, is don't just read the headlines.
	If you really want to believe something, if you want to be, if you want to have courage in your convictions, do your research, prove yourself wrong, and then find the truth.
	And if you don't, if you still don't believe it, look to your community, look to your circle, look to your friends and see really what are people leaning towards.
	And what I've come to find a going to rallies, going to um, you know, you know, door knocking for Trump, and you know, going all the way back to 2016.
	I really true believe he's gonna go two for two, keeping another woman uh out of the Oval Office.
	But that's it, Owen.
	I just wanted to say my part, and I truly appreciate brother, uh, what you're doing, and uh the big fan.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, that's assuming that Kamala even ends up being the nominee.
	I'm not so sure that's a guarantee quite yet.
	So uh that's the uh interesting angle to that is uh will Kamala Harris even be the nominee.
	Still uh time will tell.
	And let me explain something too.
	I I to the people that are reaching out saying we need to take Kamala Harris seriously, she's a real threat.
	And I see this commentary out there.
	I'm of the I'm of the practice that that we should never underestimate our opposition.
	It's like the old sports analogy: never underestimate your opponent.
	Uh, and also we should pretend like we're 20, 30 points behind in this deal because we virtually are, with with how much cheating the Democrats do.
	So this isn't to discount what we're up against.
	But having said that, all of this hype behind Kamala Harris, all this headline that you see behind Kamala, it's all fraud.
	It's all fraud.
	Oh she Kamala Harris raises 100 million dollars overnight.
	That was money for Joe Biden that they just scratched Joe Biden off the check and put Kamala on it.
	There was there was no record fundraising.
	It was a fake news story.
	It was literally Joe Biden's money, and they just changed the name of the bank account holder.
	That's all they did.
	It was no record fundraising, and now they're being investigated by the FEC for campaign violations.
	The funds are frozen.
	Oh, record fundraising.
	All this Kamala hype, she had about a week's worth of hype, and now what is it?
	She couldn't even fill a high school gymnasium today.
	Even the artist that was like Kamala is brat is like, hey, the Kamala is brat thing is over.
	So I think they gave Kamala a test run.
	I think that they wanted to have a debate as soon as possible with Trump and Kamala so that they could do the same Joe Biden thing, and if she failed, get her out of the race.
	And I think the Trump campaign caught up to that and said, uh, no, we're not gonna, we're not gonna give you the test run again.
	So they're not gonna do the debate until she's nominated.
	And apparently now Kamala is begging to be nominated this Wednesday to avoid getting ousted at the convention.
	So no, it doesn't matter whether we're up against Biden or Kamala or Hillary or Michelle, we're up against the same system of fraud.
	We're up against the same system of propaganda, we're up against a corrupt system, not necessarily the name on the ballot.
	But they need as much help as they can get.
	So they got a test run, whoever is doing the best, they gave Kamala a chance.
	I'm not so sure it's gonna be her.
	All right, let's take another call.
	What's your name where you're from going once on the line?
	What's your name where you're from?
	All right, a no-go.
	Let's take the next caller.
	What's the what's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Hi, this is Joseph from Vegas.
	All right, Joseph, go ahead.
	Well, uh, just real quick, just for the last caller.
	I mean, just you could easily tell it's not um fake just because that gun, very familiar with ARs.
	Um, they shoot after a hundred yards, it's got a three-inch MOA, so that means it it's not gonna go in the same hole.
	The same like if you shoot a target with no wind indoors a hundred yards away, it's not gonna go through the same hole.
	It has a three-inch to spare.
	Um, so it's not really your most um accurate weapon.
	So that's that's like totally not possible to even fake a shot like that.
	So even the best marksman of all time.
	So yeah, fake fake a shot into nicking or like grazing Trump's ear.
	Yeah, no, that's him turning his head at the perfect time.
	Yeah, that's impossible.
	No, it's impossible.
	I've uh very with weapons.
	Um completely impossible, especially with any sort of 16-inch AR.
	Um, but anyway, just want to say um good job on that request, because you know it's important that the I mean they can't break the law, they have to provide you with an answer.
	So they're either gonna deny you guys or you know, give you some sort of better information that we don't have yet.
	So that's that's really important.
	I think uh more people should do that, but very sad to see that you know the important people got kicked off the congressional investigation that they're doing together like that.
	Yeah, Corey Mills, Corey Mills and Eli Crane, yeah.
	But Mills is uh he's he said he's doing his own private investigation as of today.
	So um that that should be a good thing.
	Yeah, and and Eli Eli said he believes it's politically motivated.
	And look, you know, here's the silver lining of all of this.
	This is only gonna this is only gonna bring people closer to where we are at politically and and spiritually, if you will, or like that that that intersection of culture and politics and and spiritual and patriotism, like we're everybody is getting closer to our intersection as all of this goes down.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, tomorrow I'm gonna go to the JD Vance rally here at in uh Las Vegas, so that'll be fun to check out.
	That's big.
	That'll be interesting because you know, Kamala got about 500 people at a high school gymnasium in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	Folks, if they can't if that if if that's all they can get in Philadelphia, I'm telling you.
	Let's see what happens with JD tomorrow in Nevada, a very key swing state.
	Yeah, there's gonna be a big turnout, but you know, it's I don't think Trump's gonna be there, so you everyone in Nevada's gotta do their part and just show up on behalf of uh Trump.
	So uh that's what I'm doing.
	Um it'll be great to see.
	And uh I was just gonna say, did you see about the there was a terrible migrant crime again today?
	I guess uh someone went crazy, stabbing kids.
	It's all on X and everything right now, but no children's brothers.
	Yeah, I did see that.
	It was a stabbing spree, like a Taylor Swift thing.
	Yeah, man.
	Or it wasn't it wasn't an actual Taylor Swift event.
	It was like a Taylor Swift themed event, right?
	Yeah.
	And it's just uh some of those things that breaks your heart.
	Yeah, I mean, can you imagine?
	I I have I have three hours a day on the InfoWars War Room, and I can't even squeeze in every news story.
	I had to squeeze that one out of my broadcast today.
	I didn't even squeeze in Joe Biden threatening to rewrite the rules of the Supreme Court, just totally unconstitutional.
	Oh yeah, no, yeah.
	He he uh scared everybody today with what he said.
	Term limits on um Supreme Court justices and everything like that, packing about he said about 40 people he wants to get in there.
	I'm like uh 20 people, 27 people or something.
	Well, I'm glad they're doing it.
	It will fail.
	It'll get voted down at the Supreme Court.
	It won't even pass the Supreme Court, is the irony of it.
	So I don't even know how they do it.
	I think it's just I I think it's just a uh it's just a political stunt before the election.
	Yeah, man, it's just it's really unwinding quite fast.
	I mean, you see what they're doing here, you see what they're doing abroad in France, how they're just decimating everybody that has a brain, you know.
	Anyone that's common sense, they're just trying to piss on.
	So it's really just quite sad right now.
	But we just gotta kind of dig deep and just uh have faith and hope everything turns out good.
	All right, my man.
	I appreciate the call.
	Yeah, I I didn't even I didn't even cover that.
	Mass stabbing.
	Little girl dead.
	Migrant.
	Biden migrant.
	More blood on Biden's hands.
	More b more blood on borders are Harris's hands.
	By the way, before I take this next caller, folks, I'm telling you, do not doubt me on this.
	They're getting the Vance Harris story wrong.
	Now look, I wasn't a big Vance guy.
	I didn't like the Vance pick.
	I'm not sure I do, but it doesn't matter.
	He's the VP choice for Trump, and so it's done.
	Trump's not going to replace him.
	And he picked him for a reason.
	But I think I know the reason now.
	And you know, by the way, to the to the caller a couple callers ago, um, just to reiterate what he's saying, I can't even believe it, folks.
	But I mean, I I basically can't even go out in public without getting recognized.
	And so I love the support.
	It fills my heart.
	It it means everything.
	Honestly, it's like it's unbelievable.
	The people I meet are so nice and so caring.
	But it's like, you know, sometimes you just want to go to the grocery store and just get your groceries and go home.
	And that's not, I'm not singling anybody out to the people I talk to at the grocery store.
	I'll always take time.
	I'll always say hello.
	I'll always appreciate your time and your kind words.
	So that's not what I'm saying.
	But it's like sometimes I'd like to go to the gym and just get a workout in, but it's just like I can't even, I'll wear a hat, I'll wear sunglasses.
	It doesn't stop.
	So we really are in the majority, more so than we even realize.
	But we're like the hidden fight club.
	You know, we're like the fight club majority, where it's like, yeah, everybody is in fight club, but you don't really talk about fight club.
	So I figured I'd just throw my two cents in there.
	You know, I think, and maybe Trump measured this, maybe not.
	I think everybody's getting the Harris Vance thing wrong.
	I actually think JD Vance is good for the women's vote.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I think JD Vance is good for the female vote.
	Specifically the middle-aged female to elderly female, and specifically the mothers.
	I believe JD Vance is good for that vote.
	And everybody's missing it and getting it wrong.
	Here's my proof.
	And this is from my own mom.
	And this is from other moms that I see out in public that listen to my show or that I talk to, and they all say the same thing.
	How much they like JD Vance, how much they enjoy his speeches.
	And here's what it is.
	Why is JD Vance resonating with moms?
	Specifically middle-aged or older mothers.
	Why is JD Vance resonating with them?
	Because he reminds them of their sons.
	Do not doubt me on this.
	Kamala Harris reminds middle-aged and elderly women of the phony that that rode men to the top.
	Figuratively and literally.
	Kamala Harris reminds women of the the phonyism that women can sniff out and can't stand in an instant, more so than even a man can.
	Kamala Harris does not resonate with mothers or middle-aged or older women.
	She doesn't.
	But J.D. Vance does.
	J.D. Vance does because he reminds them of their sons.
	Thank you.
	Shout out to Shane in St. Louis.
	All right, let's take the next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	That ain't happening.
	Hello.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	No.
	No.
	I'm kind of curious what's happening here.
	I've lost interest.
	All right.
	Let's take another call.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from?
	Kelly from Chicago.
	Oh, Kelly in the Windy City.
	Go ahead.
	Hey, Owen.
	It's the great steak debater here.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	Hey, listen.
	My stakes are always the best, though.
	Just no.
	No, mine are mine are top notch.
	You'll see.
	I had one tonight.
	It was it was awesome.
	But anyways, um, I want to tell you as I was calling in, you are 100% correct about JD Vance.
	Um thank you.
	Thank you.
	They're doubting me on this.
	They're doubting me.
	I tell the people, do not doubt me on this.
	No, as a woman and a mother, you are 100% correct.
	And um women do not like Kamala Harris.
	You just there's nothing likeable about her.
	There's nothing genuine.
	She is just absolutely vile and repulsive.
	Two women.
	And I'm assuming that it's the same with men as well.
	Um so all this hype, all this propaganda.
	It's it's the honeymoon period.
	It's gonna blow over.
	Um I think it already has.
	I think it already has.
	I think they're they're they're on their last phase of the honeymoon phase with this uh uh coconut pilled, and they got Kamala on this magazine riding a coconut, and I don't it's done.
	It's over.
	The honeymoon is done by next week, guarantee you.
	And it goes right back to the open border, and it goes right back to what are her policies.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Um Laura Loomer, I don't know if you saw because you've been doing your show, but about 20 minutes ago, Laura Loomer just reported that she heard at the uh Democrat convention that they're gonna perform an abortion on live TV.
	Don't know where she got that.
	Don't know if it's true.
	Well, okay, let's be perfectly clear.
	But um, I first of all, I I'm never gonna attack Laura Loomer.
	Let me just let me just let me just say for people, let me just give a word of the wise.
	Do not go after Laura Loomer.
	You will regret it.
	Um having said that, I think that uh I doubt they do an actual abortion.
	They'll probably do like a mock abortion or something.
	Uh they'll do something to celebrate abortion, but to do a lot, there's no way they can do a live medical procedure.
	I don't think they could either.
	I don't think they could either, but at some point, I I would think just or is she talking about or maybe maybe she's actually talking about how they're gonna abort Kamala Harris and and move take her off the ticket.
	They probably will.
	I wouldn't doubt it.
	That's maybe that I've got to think if they did that, if they do something like that, I would even think the middle of the road democrats would be turned off by that.
	Um, I would think, you know, the moderate democrat that's already on the fence about her.
	If they did that, I just don't see.
	I don't know.
	It's repulsive, it's sick.
	But so that's my thoughts.
	But I do think they're gonna take I don't know if she's gonna be I'm not convinced.
	I'm not convinced, especially now that the hype is worn out and it's all fading.
	But but tell people now, not just from yourself.
	What about other what about other women your age?
	What about other mothers?
	Am I right about the JD Vance situation?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And we do not think he's weird.
	Um I think the women I know, we were all very excited that he was the pick.
	I mean, I'm uh I like Vivek Ramaswamy.
	I think he's very charismatic, this and that, but I I knew he wasn't gonna be the pick.
	So, you know, when we knew what the short list was, I think all the women I know were very happy with that choice.
	That was a choice we would have wanted.
	That's a solid pick.
	And you watch it.
	And what is this?
	What is this like middle class?
	So intelligent Chicago.
	He's what's that?
	And this is like middle class Chicago.
	We are just outside of Chicago.
	We're suburbs of Chicago, about half hour maybe outside.
	And yes, um, the women that I know, and you know, most of my family and friends were all we're all conservative.
	Um we're all Trump people.
	We were since before 2016.
	Um, I wanted him to run in 12, but glad he wouldn't because it wouldn't have been his time.
	But um, yeah, so we were all very pleased with JD Vance being the pick.
	I'm telling you, folks, do not doubt me on this.
	Do not doubt that.
	And I don't think I don't think, you know, there's the rumors floating around that Trump is thinking of replacing him.
	I don't think that's true.
	No.
	I I just don't.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	It wouldn't make it wouldn't make any sense.
	No, it wouldn't.
	It just wouldn't.
	And yeah, I think I think where we have a solid choice.
	And anyone who listens to him, he's just smart.
	He's articulate.
	He's he is the American dream.
	Somebody who came from nothing and pulled themselves up from the bootstraps.
	And you see all that possibility.
	And uh he he brings it home.
	So women love him.
	Telling you, people have this whole women Vance thing wrong.
	You know, it's amazing.
	They know it's propaganda and that the media is there to deceive them and lie to them.
	But sometimes it even works on those that know.
	Sometimes it even works on those that know.
	They they're all saying weird.
	Like it's like every other talking point.
	Every other thing.
	They all did.
	Hold on.
	Let me try to go for the short list.
	Schumer, booty judge, Saki, Whitmer, um, Barbara Lee, Swalwell.
	Who am I missing?
	That's six come to mind.
	They all called him weird.
	But it was like a lot of all been doing it.
	That was their talking point to call him weird.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're past, we're sharp as attack, right?
	We went from sharp as attack to weird, just like that.
	Uh yeah, Biden Sharp's attack too.
	He's not even in the race.
	JD Vance is weird to what's next.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, well, we're not falling for it, that's women.
	And uh they can push that and push that.
	It's it's it's not gonna work.
	Well, and I think anyway.
	Thank you for the call, Kelly.
	I you know, I I might have to just ask for the women to call in on Vance now.
	Because people are doubting me on this.
	Folks, I'm telling you, JD Vance reminds these women of their son.
	I'm telling you, do not doubt me on this.
	It's a real phenomenon.
	I could do a whole show on this.
	Do not doubt me on this.
	They're in the comments.
	They're agreeing.
	Next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
	Albert, what's up tonight, man?
	Oh, not a whole lot.
	Owen.
	Um, hey, huge shout out to uh uh your uh fight there for the uh FOIA request there.
	Um I didn't realize that you still had the Owen Defense.com website up and running.
	Um I had just assumed that it was uh offline since uh the whole Supreme Court uh you know thing fell through.
	Well, I don't talk about it, but I am uh I've been sued again, Albert.
	So I'm actually in a legal defense right now as we speak.
	I just don't really talk about it.
	No, no, no, that's okay.
	Oh, and no, no, and um, you know, it it's it's a shame to see that uh that that persecution is still going on, but that's why I'm happy to be out here supporting you in that.
	Um, but uh I just wanted to touch on what uh I believe it was the first caller called in about on people uh talking about how the whole Trump uh shooting was uh staged or you know, uh false flag or whatever you want to call it.
	Um I've actually been pretty adamant.
	Um, of course I don't buy that.
	I think it was 100%, you know, legit, but I I actually have been vehemently defending these people's rights to do that on the grounds that you know you uh you the it's it's it's protected speech, but I just my main gripe is I wonder if anybody denying this will get sued for 1.5 billion or 2.5 trillion.
	You know what I mean?
	Like uh like Alex Jones and and and you guys over at InfoWars.
	So of course not.
	You know that that's well it have to be it had to be the family of Corey Contim Pierre that uh and I probably butchered the name, I'm sorry, but it'd have to be his family, the victim who died, or I guess maybe the um the other victims maybe that could sue the doubters, but I that shouldn't happen either.
	No, no, absolutely not.
	And I just feel that um that that it's really funny now that um the the that the people on the uh radical left here are now the ones that are coming up with all these conspiracies and trying to put together all these dots and everything like that um where it doesn't exist and um uh you know the the the whole ear healing thing or whatever.
	I'm I mean it it's it's you know like wounds heal.
	It's not like the bullet, I don't think they ever claimed the bullet went right through his ear.
	They they did they said it why I guess the FBI finally admitted that the uh that it was the bullet that grazed his ear, you know, as as opposed to shrapnel.
	So, you know, it it'll be interesting to see there, you know, if if if they're liable, you know, for a lawsuit there too as well.
	But um, and uh on the on the Vance pick, you know, I'm I'm kinda still up in the air about it.
	Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of Vance, but listening to the last caller, you know, my mom really likes that pick, and she's uh uh she would be a boomer.
	So she's uh uh of an age, you know, where he could, you know, realistically, you know, be her son.
	So I I see where you're coming from as far as the appeal there, you know, maybe more to female voters in that.
	I'm telling, I'm telling people, do not doubt me on this.
	Mothers of the world will unite around JD Vance because he reminds them of their sons.
	And the more they attack JD Vance, the more they're gonna like JD Vance.
	Now, look, I'm I'm not claiming here that JD Vance is gonna sweep the female vote.
	That's not what I'm claiming.
	I'm saying that do not underestimate that Vance is resonating with women for that reason.
	This is not, it was not an anti-woman pick.
	It it was a pick that I think will actually bring women in to Trump.
	The question is, does it lose or win any voters?
	I don't know.
	I'm just saying that middle-aged women and mothers like JD Vance.
	No, I I I I completely get you, Aaron Owen.
	And um, I don't think it's a pick that hurts Trump at all.
	And I think all this publicity about Kamala doing better in the polls or whatever than Biden is just it's just all fluff and and and completely fabricated the same way that the polls of Hillary being up, you know, 15 points the night before the election, you know, were fabricated.
	Um but you know, I I just feel that um that right now everybody seems to be really rallying behind, you know, Trump and the conservatives, and and and as big a as much as maybe I wasn't a fan of a lot of the stuff that happened at the RNC, I do agree with your take that it brought in a lot of other people that maybe wouldn't be interested in conservative politics or or conservative, you know, more conservative mind minded topics.
	Um so you know, I I I understand Owen, you know, when you say don't bout me because it's just like Alex Jones was right, you know, I learned not to doubt you guys a long time ago.
	But um one other quick thing I wanted to tell you, Owen, I was uh I was away this weekend and I saw something on this is a little unrelated, but I saw something on TV to reminded me I I had to tell you, in the state of Ohio, um they are the governor mandated that they're gonna have to put defibulators in all uh grade schools and high schools because I guess they figure the kids are now having heart attacks higher rapes.
	But wait a second.
	I thought it was because defibulators are already required in schools.
	I thought it had something to do with like a l athletic facilities specifically.
	You know, that that could have been it.
	I caught it.
	I just kind of had the TV running in the hotel room, like, you know, it's background noise, and I caught it about halfway through the story.
	But, you know, like uh when I saw it, I figured I have to tell you about it that it's it's that they're putting these defibulators in all over the place um, you know, for these kids, and I just don't see any other reason but the vaccines that you know that they would need that kind of equipment, especially for high school athletes maybe who should uh be in top physical condition.
	And um Yeah, so I know I I'm pretty sure I know the story you're talking about.
	I didn't know if it was specific to Ohio or not.
	Um now again, I I have to go and I'm sure this information is available.
	I'm pretty sure it became mandatory for schools to have defibulators uh decades ago.
	Uh I'm pretty sure that was the case.
	I think that the development you're referring to is now it has to be in athletic facilities.
	So, like in other words, uh a weight room or a training facility, or if you're outside even having like a football or baseball practice that it has to be somewhere on the scene.
	So I think that I don't want to say I'm 100% confident on that, but I think that that was the new development that it had to be at athletic facilities.
	Oh, okay.
	I understand Owen.
	Which is even which is really even worse, actually.
	Oh, no, no, for sure.
	For sure, because that's that that's saying the kids are having more uh, you know, problems than than they did before the uh before they put the poison shots out.
	But um thanks for uh taking my call again, Owen, and I just wanted to thank you for always you know shouting me out and you know, uh being so kind, and that's why I'm happy to support you.
	And you know, as far as I'm concerned, you're the uh you're the number one guy, you know, you're you you're you're I say you're America's number one patriot, and I mean it.
	And um uh looking forward to to see what comes next here and and maybe check out the new geared air next week.
	Uh but I'll let you get this some more callers here for tonight.
	Well, that's an honor, Albert.
	You're you're number one.
	You're number one as well in my book.
	So I appreciate that.
	All right, let's take another call here.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Uh my name's Nicola, and I'm actually from Ohio.
	Okay.
	Um did you say Z I'm sorry, Zekola?
	No, Nicola.
	Nicola.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Nicola.
	Okay, thank you.
	You're fine.
	So uh go ahead.
	Is this Owen?
	Speaking.
	Oh, wow.
	I spoke to you before, actually.
	Um, but it's been a while ago.
	Um, I live in Ohio.
	I voted for JD Vance.
	Um, I agree with you 100% as far as I'm a mom and a grandma.
	Um, so and to answer the guy's question before, I'm a nurse also.
	Um AEDs are in all schools.
	Um, I don't know if maybe they have a portable one they may take on a field for like a football or soccer game or sports in Ohio.
	Yeah, like I said, I believe uh that that was the story is it had to be at athletic facilities.
	And uh I I heard it in passing, like Albert was saying.
	Uh and so it probably was just local Ohio news, but I heard it on a uh I heard it on a national news headline feed, and I couldn't find any national news.
	So yeah, I'm assuming that it's probably maybe it's just Ohio and it's at sporting facilities, but it's obviously because these athletes are having you know heart problems because of the vaccine.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I agree.
	My husband um retired military and uh had a strike after getting the vaccine.
	So uh yeah.
	Definitely important.
	So you agree with my analysis of JD Vance, though.
	I do.
	I do.
	I hate to see him go from Ohio.
	So do I. I mean, he's a good vote in the Senate, and who knows who will get from DeWine.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	But we I'm just gonna pray and vote in Ohio for sure.
	So but JD is a good one.
	Yeah, and I'm telling you, they're underestimating Vance.
	And look, again, this isn't uh this isn't a Vance, I'm not a Vance loyalist.
	I wasn't a guy that pushed for Vance.
	It looks like it was Tucker Carlson and Don Jr. that got Trump to pick Vance.
	I'm just saying, don't buy into this fearmongering that he's losing with women.
	If anything, it's a neutral factor.
	If anything, if we're doing metrics, it's a neutral factor.
	But I'm telling you, the middle aged women, the mothers, the grandmothers, they like Vance.
	Do not doubt me on this.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	I am Donovan from Virginia.
	Donovan, go ahead.
	Hey man, how are you doing?
	I'm a friendly overall.
	You know, I believe, you know, peace and amongst us all is the best way to do it.
	But like from the top, man, like the whole, you know, we're we're controlled by Israel.
	Uh bipartisan is running for Israel more than they are our own country.
	And you know, um, I don't know if you know anything about the uh like sovereignty and like state nationalists and like the way the courts are in, but until we address all those kinds of problems, man, we're just we need a whole reset in our government, man.
	And then, you know, I think with Trump, you know, like I agree with you what you say with that that you know, I'd rather have him in our you know, decrippling uh era right now than the other choice, but yeah, we still gotta we are very uneducated amongst the masses about some problems that we really need to solve, and that's awesome.
	All right, anything else?
	Uh not really.
	That's all I'll tell you later, brother.
	It's good.
	All right, thank you for the call.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Oh gosh.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	You're on the air.
	What's your name?
	Yeah, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Josh.
	All right.
	All right, Josh, go ahead.
	Um you guys are JD Vance uh for the uh Vini pick.
	Yep.
	Um I I thought I thought Trump should probably take uh more of a general like uh McGregor or Flynn.
	I like both of those guys.
	Absolutely.
	And if they're not gonna be the VP, I'd like to see him in the administration for sure.
	yes because i because i think he's they will actually create a structure for for tron Well, having them in the administration, I think would be very important.
	I I'm a big I'm a big fan of both of those great American men, General Mike Flynn and uh Colonel Douglas McGregor.
	Absolutely.
	Their wisdom should not be, their wisdom should not be taken for granted.
	And and I hope that it has part of the Trump campaign.
	Or Trump president.
	It would be a it would be a straight to uh Trump.
	Like um uh I I think McGregor should have been a VP.
	That's my opinion.
	Or Flynn, either or but either way, um I think uh Trump is is trying to it's like a distraction.
	So um how do you put it?
	Um I think uh when when they're picking these uh uh Congressmen, you're you're taking away from when he could have picked a a strategic man who knows how to play the game.
	They they've already been through this, they know where the bodies are are lying.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, if you're referring to the VP pick and and not choosing somebody that already has a vote in Congress, I I agree.
	And again, that's why I said I was never a big Vance guy.
	I didn't I didn't want to see Vance as the VP, but the deed is done.
	Yeah, I didn't want to lose a vote in Congress, and you essentially have done that with Vance, a loyal vote to the Trump agenda.
	Uh now it's a mystery.
	Who knows what DeWine will do with that pick?
	Um, but it's it's done.
	And so now I'm weighing the advantages, disadvantages of Vance, and and just observing and reporting as the time goes on.
	Let's take another call.
	And and let's see what he does in uh Las Vegas tomorrow.
	Let's see what kind of crowd he gets out.
	Important swing state in Nevada.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Hi, my name is John from San Antonio.
	All right, John, go ahead.
	So uh you talk about JD Vance, and to be honest, I have no strong feelings for him or against him.
	But the way I kind of look at him is like a um a bowl of plain white rice.
	He's very bland, in my opinion.
	But the thing about white rice, you can always season it however you want.
	So I think as you know, Americans, as MAGA, as Trump supporters, we have to hold, you know, are these politicians accountable, you know.
	Even for Trump and J.D. Vance, you know, I don't agree with everything Trump does or says, but he's the best man for the job, you know, simple as that.
	And as far as JD Vance goes, I mean, I just have to trust what Trump's doing.
	You know, he was a never Trump supporter type of person at one point, but eventually, uh the closer we get to November, there's gonna be a lot of people switching over from never Trump or Trump supporters, in my opinion.
	Yeah, a lot's gonna happen, obviously, in the next it's now 99 days till the election.
	A lot is gonna happen.
	But yeah, um, and as far as you know, JD Vance is concerned, you know.
	I just like I said, I have no strong feelings for him or against him or anything like that.
	Um, one other thing I wanted to talk about though was the Mike Adams video that was on the war room today.
	Um I was at work, so I couldn't really see the whole segment that was played out, but I was wanting to get your opinion because Harrison said something on the Morning Journal this morning that kind of made the whole made me rethink that whole theory that Mike Adams was coming across with.
	You're gonna have to be more specific.
	Well, as far as the second shooter um and the visual for it, because uh from the video that Mike Adams got, he got his from someone off of X on Twitter.
	And um, if you follow that person, he he says that he had his phone confiscated by authorities.
	I don't know if that was a good one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	JD Stewart or whatever.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Yeah, so what Harrison said in the morning journal was basically that, you know, you know, all the evidence is going towards going to the federal government, whoever that may be, FBI, CIA, Secret Service.
	I have no idea to be completely honest, but he did make a great point that once this evidence gets confiscated, they can manipulate it however they want to.
	And I'm kind of wondering, maybe this could have happened with that Mike Adams video that he got, because like I said, the source is saying that he had his phone confiscated by the authorities.
	Okay, well, again, I I'm not I'm not uh the specifics of what Harrison or Mike Adams is saying, I'm still not clear on.
	I had Mike Adams on my show today, as you referenced, and he did not really lean in to the second shooter.
	Uh it sounded to me like he was thinking at this point that it was just a reflection.
	Um I still I still have not seen enough to believe that there was a second shooter.
	Uh there's anything that I've seen that would make me think there was a second shooter at this point.
	And I would say that for there to be a shooter in that window where Secret Service and local law enforcement was staged as their headquarters, seems next to impossible.
	So yeah, I don't think there was a shooter in that window.
	That's my opinion.
	Um I would I would say um, yeah, I'm convinced there was no second shooter in the window.
	Um it's all about the federal stand down at this point and now the federal cover-up.
	Yeah, no, I'm totally with you on that.
	I understand.
	Um, but yeah, I just thought that video was interesting just because that's the closest video I've seen that was and at that building where Crooks has been.
	A very important video.
	A very important video.
	Uh and and look, I'm trying to get the individual that shot that video on the InfoWars War Room.
	Uh, so we'll see.
	Yeah, well, I mean, if you follow his ex account, I mean he's saying he's uploading more of that video or other videos.
	I'm not exactly too sure.
	He just has a little like teaser out more to come.
	Um, but we'll see what happens.
	I mean, you really can't tell at this point with anything.
	No doubt.
	Thank you for the call.
	I'm gonna take one last call.
	I hope it's another mom proving me right about Vance, but who knows?
	Last call over the night.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from.
	That's uh Crazy Rick from Arizona.
	Oh, Crazy Rick squeezes himself into the show.
	Hey, listen, uh total different uh topic here.
	I was uh looking around on your website here on Rumble and I went to the um about link and the Twitter link you have on there goes to a dead uh dead link in old.
	Oh, is that account still dead on X Owensre Live?
	Is it still dead?
	Yeah, you might yeah, you might want to point it to the X. Yeah, that's a good call.
	You know, funny story.
	Owen Schreuer Live.
	It was the account I originally used to go live from here.
	Uh and they suspended it for impersonation, uh, even though it was my account.
	So whatever.
	Uh uh good call.
	I'll fix that.
	Yeah.
	Uh one last thing.
	Uh you were talking about the defibrillator or whatever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, still there.
	Uh reminded me of the uh uh breaking bad uh episode when the guy at Magical in Germany stuck the defibrillator in his mouth and killed himself.
	Huh.
	All right.
	Well, I have to uh I have to be honest, I've never seen a single episode of breaking bad.
	So oh man, you need the you need to check that out.
	Yeah, I've uh I obviously it's one of the most popular series of all times.
	I've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad, I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones.
	I don't know.
	I don't really watch drama TV, so uh take the take it easier.
	Uh on talk to some other time.
	All right, thank you for the call.
	All right, people are they're crying for one more caller.
	They're they're demanding one more caller.
	I give the crowd what it wants.
	Last caller, here it is of the night.
	What's your name?
	Go ahead.
	Sun size from Oklahoma.
	See, this is what I wanted for the last caller.
	Tell me.
	Yes, go ahead.
	Okay, so tell me what you thought about the Gajira for Olympics.
	I mean, Gojira was incredible.
	It's I don't know who they are.
	Sorry, I said it wrong.
	It's okay.
	It's Gojira.
	They're incredible.
	They're incredible.
	In fact, I'm sitting here deciding what to what to play for music.
	Are you a metal fan?
	I'm not a metal fan, but only because you like it, I like it, okay.
	Well, that's very smart.
	You're very smart to be like that.
	you're extremely smart so i'm a i mean yeah i'm an infowars supporter so of course i'm smart well Well, now I think I should probably play a Gojira song on the way out.
	I was gonna play, you know what?
	I'll save that for next time.
	I was gonna blow people's minds.
	I introduced the new.
	I introduced the new Surge Tankian to them tonight.
	I already blew the people's minds with my music selection once, so I won't I won't double down.
	I'll do that next week.
	I'll go with the Gojira hit.
	Uh the Gojira is incredible.
	It's one of the best live performances I've ever seen.
	I genuinely and uh they're incredible.
	Every record they put out is fantastic.
	The Lynx was um uh it's their only one that I thought wasn't just gold from the beginning to the end.
	But yeah, so you're not even a metal fan, and you thought that was a guy.
	Mario Deplantier is one of the he's probably the second best drummer in the world behind Danny Carey of Tool.
	I would say Mario Deplantier of Gojira is the second best drummer in the world alive today behind Danny Carey of Tool.
	Okay, that's a big statement.
	I believe it.
	Okay.
	Well, you better make the closer worth our while, Mr. Sawyer.
	I I always do.
	I know.
	Well, thanks for covering me.
	Um, you're awesome.
	Wait a second.
	What do you think about what about JD Vance?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, obviously, Cougars and MILFs for Vance, duh.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	That's it.
	That's all you need to hear right there.
	I'm not gonna repeat it.
	You heard it from her.
	All right.
	Now I gotta pick a Gojira song.
	I had something else lined up that was gonna blow your mind.
	I want to play some Gojira I've never played before here.
	I already blew your mind with the brand new Sarge Tankian to start the show.
	So I'll blow your mind next week with something you've never heard before that'll blow your mind.
	But I'm telling you, Gojira the cell is maybe the best thing I've ever seen performed live.
	Gojira the Cell.
	Maybe the greatest thing I've maybe the greatest song I've ever seen performed live.
	I I mean just like mind-blowing in how good it is.
	But I've already played that one for you.
	So I want to play old Gojira or New Gojira.
	That's the question.
	which is obviously fantastic, but good luck getting tickets.
	Good luck getting tickets.
	Thank you.
	Let's see what we got.
	These guys are just so damn good.
	Let's play some new Gojira.
	As we call it a night.
	Actually, it's Gojira that I play every day to open up the war room at six after.
	That's Gojira.
	All right, that's going to be the one.
	This will probably go over the best.
	I It's not their heaviest metal.
	Um I think of all their songs, this would probably have the the largest base popularity from their new album.
	So we go out with Gojira.
	Another world from their latest album.
	That does it for Owen Troyer Live episode seventy-six.com slash Owen and follow at XO Entroyer seventeen seventy six.
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