Owen Shroyer dissects the Democratic Party’s potential abandonment of Joe Biden amid his public gaffes—freezing at a fundraiser with Obama, Kimmel, and Clooney, or earlier mishaps at D-Day and G7 events—while Vegas odds still favor him over Harris, Newsom, or Whitmer. Callers speculate about the 25th Amendment, blackmail, or even letting Trump win to later disqualify him, though Shroyer doubts Biden’s survival as nominee despite party investments. The episode blends political chaos with surreal tangents, like "sex-proof" Olympic beds and viral trolling, before ending on a defiant, cryptic chant: "Fight, fight, fight"—a metaphor for the coming electoral storm. [Automatically generated summary]
Puddle of Mud Psycho bringing us in tonight, Owen Troyer Live.
Episode 70.
Will Joe Biden be the Democrat nominee?
This is the question on everybody's minds, and obviously so.
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So we're going to lay it all out and then we're going to have this discussion on the phone lines.
And I'm going to ask you, and you can call in, do you think Joe Biden is going to be the Democrat nominee?
Now let's observe where we're at that brings us to this conversation.
And this, of course, is Joe Biden over the weekend at a fundraiser.
And the only way he can get anybody to show up is if celebrities show up or if Barack Obama shows up.
So they had some celebrities out there, Barack Obama, Jimmy Kimmel, and George Clooney and others.
It's the only way Obama can get a crowd.
Oh, excuse me, Biden.
Only way Biden can get a crowd.
But this video was so bad that the Democrats have been running cover.
Well, really, they've been running cover since the G7 more than anything.
Well, actually, no, they've been really running cover for a long time, but I mean, heavy-duty propaganda cover since Biden likely pooped his pants at the D-Day ceremonies.
So Biden craps his pants at the D-Day ceremonies.
They have to run him away, change his diapers, and they have to do coverage saying, no, Biden didn't crap his pants.
No, no, no, no.
Everything's normal.
Don't notice anything over here.
And then the G7 summit, he's dazed and confused, wandering around.
They say, oh, no, no, no, Joe Biden wasn't lost and confused.
He wasn't wandering around.
That didn't happen.
Then this video from over the weekend, Joe Biden freezes on stage for five seconds, six seconds, and then Barack Obama has to grab his wrist and usher him off the stage and have a loving embrace because Joe Biden doesn't know where he is.
And it was bad.
It was pathetic looking.
it's a horrible look.
So they're having to run major cover and they're calling these videos cheap fakes, by the way.
The Democrat propaganda machine has been activated, and they're calling these videos fake.
And then they show you the actual videos.
They show you this video, and they say, this is not Joe Biden getting lost.
This is not Joe Biden being let off the stage by Barack Obama.
No, that's not what's happening here.
Don't believe your own lying eyes.
It's incredible.
Just like they share the video of Biden having to run away during the D-Day ceremonies and say, no, there's nothing here.
Just like they show you the video of Biden getting dazed and confused and wandering off at the G7.
Oh, Biden wasn't dazed and confused wandering off.
And now this video, Joe Biden didn't freeze on stage and have Barack Obama grab him by the wrist and take him off stage.
It didn't happen.
These are fake.
And they literally say they're fake.
They show you the real video.
And they say they're fake.
I mean, Biden can barely even walk off the stage, ladies and gentlemen.
He can't talk.
He can't walk.
It's a total embarrassment.
So I want to know, do you guys think at this point Joe Biden is the nominee?
Or has the curtain closed, the proverbial curtain closed on Joe Biden politically?
Now, I'll tell you all the things I'm kind of observing here that might land me to my conclusion.
I'll tell you all that.
By the way, just we don't give out gambling advice here, but I may have advised some people.
Celtics win tonight and cover and Tatum on the over everything.
We'll be monitoring that.
Looks like another looks like another I called it on that deal.
And if you are a Celtics fan tonight, try not to blow your load too hard.
I know there's been a lot of build up there.
Now, here's how I look at this.
Because we can obviously observe Joe Biden's decline.
nobody reasonable or honest is denying Joe Biden's decline.
So can he even make it to November?
Certainly the Democrats are asking themselves this.
Can Joe Biden even make it to November?
But then again, they already stole one election for Biden.
Why wouldn't they just steal another?
What's stopping them?
If they think Joe Biden can make it that far, then he's the perfect candidate.
He's easily controllable.
He doesn't make any decisions of his own.
He's totally blackmailable.
He doesn't have a clue what's going on.
It's a free-for-all.
So why not?
If you figure you can make it till November with Biden, might as well go.
Might as well go and have Obama be the shadow president or whoever else is running the show.
They've invested so much into him.
They've invested so much propaganda.
They've invested so much money.
They've been telling you how great he is.
They've been telling you the best economy.
They've been telling you he's the best for the job.
I suppose they could throw that all away.
But here's the reality.
They know they're in trouble politically with Biden or not.
And there's no solution that doesn't do damage.
Even if they get something that takes care of Biden for them, something natural that takes care of Biden for them.
Something natural, or maybe the Republicans show all the crimes, impeach him, whatever.
Even that shows what liars the Democrats are because they said, oh, healthiest president ever, or they said, oh, least corrupt president ever.
You know, so there's no way they cannot, there's no way they avoid doing damage.
But they may figure Biden is so bad, it's less of a risk to just replace him at this point, even after all the investment they've made.
The propaganda investment, the money investment, the reputation investment, the political investment.
They figure it's still better to just get rid of him and take whatever damage comes with it.
But we're also so late in the game, we're up against the buzzer.
The Democrats are going to have to nominate somebody by the end of July unless they want to sacrifice Ohio.
I don't see the Democrats wanting to sacrifice Ohio.
It's a major swing state.
Even if they figure they're behind in the polls and going to lose Ohio anyway, still a bad look.
So they have to nominate somebody by the end of July before their convention.
I mean, maybe that was done strategically.
Maybe the Democrats planned their convention so late intentionally so that they can nominate somebody before the convention and they don't have to deal with the insanity that's going to happen at the convention.
kind of a strategy to just decide their own fate and then not have to deal with the convention.
The Democrat Party is a mess.
Let's be clear.
Just as much as you and I will sit here and debate what's going on, just as much as you and I will contemplate will the Democrats go with Biden or not, so are they.
So are they.
They're weighing all these things and trying to figure out what they're going to do as well.
And who knows?
Maybe they haven't decided.
Maybe they haven't decided, but they got big Biden problems.
No, the economy is not great.
That hurts voters.
They blame it on Biden.
Yes, the border is wide open.
That makes people feel unsafe.
They blame that on Biden.
There is no way around this.
Why did they wait so long with Ohio?
Again, maybe it was strategy.
Maybe they wanted to nominate the Democrat for president without the convention knowing the convention is going to be such a shit show that they couldn't get that far.
Maybe that was strategic.
Maybe they were thinking about that.
Maybe they're just such a mess with no real leadership that even they don't have an answer for that question.
And Owen, I wanted to bring up something that is really important that I heard you talking about on your show about three weeks ago.
And it's about the misinformation that we are taught in school that leads to some of the big societal problems we have.
So I heard you talking about how we don't have to have wars anymore or conflicts over resources because there's so much available, which would create cheaper prices and abundance for everyone.
And I did notice that all the college economic textbooks in the United States and the world begin with the premise that we have scarcity, that there is not enough to go around.
And they don't give any evidence to support this claim.
They just say it and move on.
So I just see that as a big lie that is taught in college that kind of goes unnoticed by even awake people.
Well, look, it is a very important issue because we don't want to fight wars anymore.
Nobody really wants to fight wars anymore.
They have to false flag you in order to get you to fight a war.
And most wars nowadays do get fought because of false flags.
The only ones that get fought with any true organic nature are old holy wars, old territory wars, which is really what's going on with Russia and Ukraine and really what's going on with Israel and the Gaza Strip.
But as far as like necessary wars for resources, for land and stuff like that, we don't need that anymore.
We have abundance.
We have innovation.
We have technology.
And so we can live in a time.
We feel like we're on the edge of a time on earth of peace and prosperity.
And for the most part, we might be there, but the corporate world government wants to send us back.
They want to send us into this worldwide serfdom, this worldwide slave class, and have a controlled population like any dystopian novel or movie.
And the people that are aware of this are rejecting it and saying, no, we choose freedom.
I think with the Biden situation, of course, I think they're going to invoke either the 25th or they're going to try to blackmail him out of the office.
At the same time, I think when it comes to Trump, they're going to next month, they're going to try to invoke a nice sentence on Trump and then go to the RNC and say, hey, you know, you probably shouldn't run this guy because he, you know, is a convicted felon, you know, to where they try to even the odds because they look at the polls and they know they're in trouble.
Well, Biden, the Biden team just put out an ad that basically is like, you can't vote for a convicted felon.
Trump, the 34-time convicted felon, and all that stuff.
So they're definitely leaning into that.
You know, I would say still the odds are that they do put Trump in jail.
I mean, how long they keep him in there might be another question.
If they do have him in there during the RNC, I mean, I don't know who do you think leads that messaging because it would have to come from the Republican Party and they certainly won't be in unison to nominate someone not name Donald Trump.
unidentified
True, but if you look at some of our Republicans, they're quick to go with the other side and agree with, you know, and say they wouldn't support him.
So it's like we're in a spot right now where we need to unite as America because if we don't let this happen and nominate him, we're going to be in another fight like before with the other side because they're going to kick him out and they're going to bring somebody in and try to put a like a golden trophy above his head.
And then we're going to end up over here looking at what they say is a convicted felon, which we know how they work.
So they're going to try to talk to the RNC or try to put the RNC in a position of, are you going to go with that guy, you know, and keep all these ads up, which are millions of dollars that they put in.
If the Republican Party did that, they'd basically be waving the white flag.
They don't want to win.
That would be what they would have to do because they're not going to get any voters.
They're not going to get any support.
It would really, it would be the death of the Republican Party.
unidentified
Yes.
We've been waving the white flag for, I don't know, eight years now.
Like, we just give it up.
You know, that's just if we don't, when he gets convicted, if we still don't stand up, all of us, and you know how these Republicans are, they will run to the other side and be like, oh, yeah, he's convicted.
You know, he's not above the law.
You know how quick they are to do that because they're right in the pockets of the other side.
And while they're doing that with Biden, we might end up in another situation that's going to make it worse or harder for us to just try to get that back.
I called before the other, I think it was episode 69.
But I wanted to tell you.
So I think that Michelle Obama is going to be the frontrunner for the Democrat Party in this upcoming election.
And I also wanted to say that the Biden brain freeze is fucking hilarious, dude.
I have not, I haven't even like, I don't think I've heard that shit like put that way.
It's fucking, that shit's genius right there.
And also one more thing is that what I want to ask you guys, you guys play on InfoWars.
It's like about the COVID, the unvaxxed, and it's like how you guys stood up whenever no one else knows, like even the geniuses, like fucking Neil deGrasse Tyson or something like that.
They couldn't even do it.
And I wanted to know, when do you think like the, because personally, my mother, she worked in a dentist's office and her boss was like, just listen to Fauci, just listen to Fauci, just listen to Fauci.
And here we are.
It's like, when do we get the apologies to where it's like, okay, you guys were right, you know?
I think Michelle will be a much better vice presidential component to their ticket to check all the boxes.
And then I also think to expand on the topic as a couple of, or rather three choices for Trump as his VP that I don't think have been discussed much lately.
Trump DeSantis.
And then you have eight years beyond Trump for the future.
Trump Green.
Marjorie Taylor Green, another eight years beyond Trump into the future.
And then I don't think I've heard anyone talk about this one.
Maybe you have seen this story going around about how they have sex-proof beds at the Olympics.
Because I guess all the Olympic athletes are going around and hooking up, which, I mean, aside from, hey, you might want to focus on winning your sport.
I guess some of them finish early and then they have some free time.
But I don't really think it's that surprising.
Young people, good looking, high testosterone, whatever.
It's not surprising that Olympic athletes might hook up at these deals once they finish their events.
So they say they have these sex-proof beds.
Let's review this.
Let's review this sex-proof beds thing.
And then let's address some of the strangeness about it.
But here they are in France introducing what it looks like to live as an Olympic athlete.
unidentified
They are very practical because they are easily montable.
And if you really think that having a cardboard bed that's like the size of a prison cot is going to stop anyone from having sex, you're kidding yourself.
Nobody, oh, yeah, nobody's ever had sex not in a bed.
Oh, wow.
How are we going to figure out how to make it without a bed?
But I think that's BS anyway.
I think that's the athletes just basically admitting they go there and get laid.
My issue is: how are you an Olympic athlete?
And they're putting you up in like a college dorm on a college cardboard cot.
That's crazy to me.
All right.
Let's go back to the phone line, shall we?
Question of the night: Is Joe Biden going to be the Democrat nominee for president?
Because, I mean, are they going to sacrifice Ohio?
I mean, how do they nominate Biden virtually to get him on the ticket in Ohio and then replace him at the convention?
So what's the strategy there?
unidentified
I think they can get away with doing whatever they want to get away with because they're going to cheat to win the election no matter what happens.
So, you know, right in front of our faces, they're going to rub it in our faces.
And because they own the Justice Department, they're going to take us all down for questioning the election.
It's like a trap.
We're being ambushed with this thing.
It's sick what they're about to do to us.
And I keep saying we should call the damn election off some way or another.
But, you know, when it comes to the Olympic villages, you know, somebody gets a contract to build these damn buildings and get these Olympicans supplied to be someplace other than a commercial hotel near the site of the Olympics.
So there's some sort of incentive to have these Olympians not be in hotels in the city.
But my theory about how the election is going to go is that they're going to let Trump win this time.
And then sometime in between the election and the swearing in in January, they're going to find a way to disqualify Trump, being that, you know, I don't know if it's because of his conviction in New York or some other reason.
And then ultimately, I think their goal is to then install, I think the only other potential one is Big Mike.
I mean, I tend to agree with you on that, although I don't know that they're, you see, I think, like, like I said, I think they'll let Trump win the election, but I don't know that they'll allow him to assume office.
And my whole other conspiracy on that would be instead of installing a Democrat.
Well, that's the ultimate truth: so much is going to happen in the next 140 days till the election that the whole political landscape could look different.
But I guess that kind of leans into the same question.
But just to touch real quick on the Olympic village, I figured out a way that they can get themselves into a five-star hotel.
You see, as long as the Olympic athletes aren't from France, they need to say that they're migrants seeking asylum there, and then automatically they'll put them up in five-star hotels, and they won't have to live on the cots and cardboard beds with everybody else.
They're tricking people in New York into doing that.
And I don't know.
The guy, because when I got my new AC unit, and I like to keep it cold at night, and the guy told me, he's like, look, you got to get a new thermostat.
It's not going to work with this unit.
It's just, you have old tech here.
It's not going to work with this unit.
And I said, well, I don't want something that can connect to the internet.
I don't want something to be shut down remotely.
He's like, well, you don't have to put that option on it, but you have to use this thing.
So, I mean, is that the case with the new tech?
Is you have to get that?
unidentified
Well, not every single one, but the best, most efficient ones.
And let me show you how they're doing this.
Every year, every couple of years, they're raising the efficiency standards for air conditioning.
They have something called CER2 standards, which is how efficient they are.
Every two years, they're getting more and more efficient.
That's what they're requiring all the builders to use, more efficient units.
And these units are worse, and they don't do as well as a job.
They try to have all those bells and whistles so they could.
Well, you could debate whether it was strategy or oversight or lack thereof, rather.
But the Democrat convention is too late for the Democrat to get on the ballot in Ohio.
And they already went through the process in the state legislature, slate legislature in Ohio.
And they said, no, we're not going to change the rules.
You have to have your nominee ready to go by whatever the date is, like July 27th or something.
Well, the Democrat convention isn't till mid-August.
So the Democrats were going to have a virtual swearing-in ceremony of Biden in mid-July that was going to make him the official nominee so that they could get on the Ohio ballot.
And then the July or rather the August DNC was just going to be ceremonious.
So I suppose anything in that scenario could potentially change, but that's where it's at right now.
unidentified
Well, I've also heard that the African-American community is absolutely furious over the migrant policy.
And Joe might be a little scared to go there.
There sounds like there could be a little bit of an uprising.
They both are lawyers, so they should know what they're talking about.
That's why people tune into their legal takes.
And it's great to have Barnes team representing me as well.
Thanks for the call.
I do have to sign off early tonight, but I'll take a couple more calls before I do.
But, men, I have to warn you to always be careful.
And I always tell you: a woman on TV looks entirely different without her makeup.
You wouldn't even recognize a woman on TV without her makeup.
But this might be the extreme example.
Buyer, beware.
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