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April 9, 2024 - Owen Shroyer Live
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OSL 60 - Conservatives Breaking From Ben Shapiro Is Just The Beginning Of The Story
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Owen Schroyer Live, episode 60: Conservatives Breaking from Ben Shapiro is just the beginning of the story.
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Now, I want to give you a couple observations here.
It might be worth kind of setting this up with a little context as well.
Why are conservatives breaking from Ben Shapiro?
Why is this a significant story?
But why is that, more importantly, why is that or how is that just the beginning, as I say?
So maybe we should give a little context.
Let me first give a tiny bit of a background.
Because all I do is call it as I see it.
All I am is a I'm basically a play-by-play color commentator of American news and American politics.
So I do the play-by-play as things are happening, but as the color commentary, I give you future sight, foresight.
I look at things from the past.
I put it all together.
That's just my general perspective.
Now, I've always been that way.
And as far as the Israel situation or the Middle East, but more specifically, Israel, it's not really been a major subject of mine.
I would talk about foreign policy, and I would pretty much just leave it at that.
And quite frankly, people would accuse me of things, you know, an Israeli shill or where are my shekels, all this other stuff, which is completely nonsense.
I'm just loyal to the truth, period.
That's it.
I call it as I see it, always have, always will.
But the point is, I think that that adds a little context to where I'm at now in this perspective to show that I truly come from a neutral observational place.
But also, I think what it shows is it's not just an individual phenomenon or an isolated incident.
There is an entire mindset change in the conservative movement or in the America First Movement, as it's now called.
So I'm going to explain this, but I think it's worth that little background.
Now, here's another observation that's worth explaining before I get into this too.
I can put out absolute bangers on my Twitter account, and they do okay.
But if I put some negative commentary on Ben Shapiro out there, blows up.
Absolutely blows up.
Like, for example, I just put out last week, we put together a new Real Stable Genius ad.
Real Stable Genius is a little comedy spoof that we've been doing of the old commercials from the 90s and early 2000s of real men of genius, formerly real American heroes.
It was old radio commercial, some of the funniest stuff ever.
Just a little spinoff, a little spoof we do of that.
Very popular stuff.
Everybody loves him.
Everybody laughs.
Does well.
When I do negative commentary or, you know, I should even say when I do fair commentary on Ben Shapiro, it's more popular than anything else right now.
So we can isolate this into Ben Shapiro and who he is and why and ask some questions and get some responses from the audience.
But there's something bigger here.
There's something bigger here.
There's something bigger happening.
And Ben Shapiro is just a microcosm of it.
And to think that this is isolated to Ben Shapiro is to not do proper, to not do proper coverage or to not do full spectrum coverage.
Now, why is Ben Shapiro the focus?
Why is Ben Shapiro being isolated?
Well, really, in the last, say, or I guess better yet, since October 7th, Ben Shapiro has shown his true colors.
He is loyal to Israel.
He is loyal to the Jewish doctrine as he sees it.
And he really couldn't care less what his audience thinks or what other conservatives in the space think.
He either has no ability of self-awareness or self-reflection or he just doesn't care.
And while Shapiro has been A major voice in conservative media for quite some time now.
In fact, they pretty much destroyed Michael Savage's career for Ben Shapiro.
Now, Savage is pro-Israel as well.
He's also Jewish.
But Michael Savage gives honest takes.
Michael Savage is not controlled.
You never know what Michael Savage might cover.
So they pretty much replaced him with Shapiro and then Levin, another Israeli firster.
Levin is unlistenable now most of the time.
Shapiro has always been.
But these are individuals who like to portray themselves as American conservatives, as American right-wingers, and a voice for Republican voters.
But now we find out that really they are a voice of Israel and that their number one concern is that of Israel.
Now, that's perfectly fine.
You are welcome to do that.
The issue is they've propped themselves up.
They've built this career on American conservatism.
But as soon as American conservatism meets a crossroads with Israeli expansionism, Israeli war, Israeli foreign policy, Israeli first policy and influence, we see where their loyalties lie.
And so Shapiro has just been the worst with this, really.
And he keeps doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down and then running circles around chasing his own tail, trying to avoid any serious discussion about it.
And, you know, I think it's worth adding one other observation from outside.
And I want to be careful not to leap to any conclusions tonight.
But I've been around media long enough to understand and be able to do some character analysis, let's say.
I've been through sports media with the biggest names.
I've been in political media with some of the biggest names.
I've worked for all big sports broadcasting corporations.
I've worked at InfoWars with Alex Jones for a long time.
And there was something interesting that developed in the Owens Shapiro drama that really stuck out to me.
So Owens and Shapiro are set to have a debate, and Shapiro is just running around like a dog chasing his tail, trying to avoid having this discussion.
And we all know why.
And here's the truth.
Ben Shapiro is a smart guy.
Ben Shapiro is a worthy opponent in a debate.
Let's not be fooled here.
But Ben Shapiro can't take the stance against Candace Owens because it will further expose who he is.
Ben Shapiro could definitely hold his own in a debate against Candace Owens.
But it's not about that.
It's about it would fully come to light his positions and he would never be able to recover.
And you're saying, but wait a second, he's already doubling down.
He's already tripling down.
He's already quadrupling down.
That's just his talk show.
That's just his audience.
Anybody left in his audience is loyal to that message anyway.
If he goes into the ring with Candace Owens, he destroys himself as a voice and a face and a name of the American conservative brand.
That's why he won't do it.
But that's not even the issue.
This is what stuck out to me.
Again, as somebody that's been through the media, the sports media, I've had access to some of the biggest names in sports.
I've had access to some of the biggest names in politics.
I've been around.
This is what stuck out to me.
Candace is seemingly having to go through back channels to have a discussion with Ben Shapiro.
And I'm thinking, well, this doesn't make sense to me.
Candace worked for Shapiro.
Candice, you could argue, was the number two at the Daily Wire for quite some time.
Now, I don't know much about the Daily Wire because I just don't follow their work.
I mean, obviously, I believe Michael Knowles works there.
I couldn't even tell you all the hosts, but I knew Candace Owens.
I knew Candace Owens worked there.
And I know they have some other people that work there too.
I think they hired some young girl now, too, that they're putting a bunch of money behind building her up.
I forget her name.
I think she married somebody, let's say, like Ben Shapiro.
So Candace was the number two at the Daily Wire.
I think it's fair to say.
I think it's fair to say that Candace was the number two at the Daily Wire.
So if Candace is your number two, you'd think that Candace and Ben would have some form of a relationship, of a cordial relationship or means of communication.
So when I'm seeing Candace having to go through the public and go through back channels to try to set up a debate with Shapiro and then having to do this strange communication campaign via the public, via her X account or social media accounts, I'm sitting here.
I'm thinking, wait a second.
Wait a second.
Did Candace Owens never have any access to Ben Shapiro?
Was there never any access?
Was there never any cordial relationship?
Was there never any mutual times where they were together in the office for business, for pleasure, whatever?
Now, the drama filling out here was they were trying to have a debate.
Candace Owens is out of town.
The Daily Wire obviously knew she was out of town.
So they set her up and they said, okay, let's do the debate.
It was supposed to be tonight.
They said, let's do the debate Monday night.
Has to be on our network in our studio.
Of course, they've got a profit off it, but whatever.
I don't even necessarily have a problem with that.
It is what it is.
And then she says, well, I'm in London.
You know, I'm in London, but I'll tell you what, I'll still do it.
I got to connect virtually, but let's still do it.
And then I guess it doesn't happen.
And then it just doesn't happen.
So obviously it's not because of Candace.
Candace is going through all the different possible ways to make this thing happen.
Candace wants it to happen.
I don't think Ben wants it to happen.
I think he's running around.
I think he's hiding like a coward.
But let me get back to the point.
How is it that Candace Owens didn't have regular access or communication with Ben Shapiro?
Now, this is a major indicator, ladies and gentlemen, of potentially a few things.
Corruption, maybe?
Cowardice, maybe?
Arrogance, perhaps.
But let me explain something from my experience.
And let me just work my way up my career.
When I work at jobs and my boss gives me access to them, him or her, I've had it both ways.
That means there's open communication.
That means there's good communication.
And that means they're not cowardice.
They're not trying to hide anything.
They're operating in good faith.
They want to make sure you're operating in good faith.
That's a good professional relationship.
I've even had times where I've had bosses where we've had disagreements, but yet there was still that communication.
Very important.
Now, I've also had jobs where that communication was lacking.
I could not get access to the boss.
I could not get access to individuals.
I could not get communications or discussions in good faith.
And every time that was the case, there was either some form of corruption going on or some form of cowardice going on for one reason or the other.
Every single time.
Every single time.
And this goes from politics to sports.
And I could even be, you go to the lowest common denominator.
I've worked with some of the biggest names in sports.
The guys that show up and don't look down on you, even the guys that get their coffee, the top broadcasters in sports, even the guys that get their coffee, they'll go and they'll shake their hand and they say, and they'll either know their name or they'll say, what is your name?
Thank you for this coffee.
Hey, do you mind getting me this?
Do you mind getting me that?
Hey, you're doing a great job today.
And then I've seen others.
They won't even look at the help.
And so the guys that communicate, the guys that shake your hand, the guys that look you in the eye, they end up being great guys.
They end up being great, very nice people, down to earth, the kind of people you'd want to hang around with.
The ones that don't want to even look at the help, the ones that don't even want to talk to you, don't even know your name, they're jerks.
They're a-holes.
Nobody wants to be associated with them.
Nobody likes them.
Now, that's the most innocent of the explanation here when it comes to Shapiro.
But I'm just wondering, what is it that makes it seems irregular to me?
Why wouldn't Shapiro and Owens have free access to communicate with one another when you're talking about probably the two biggest names at the Daily Wire?
What is up with that?
Is Ben just a jerk?
Is Ben just a coward?
Or is there something else going on here?
But that's what I see.
When I saw that Owens apparently can't even get regular communication or access to Shapiro, I'm sitting here.
I'm saying, well, what is that about?
Now, let me explain something else.
Every single member of the crew at Infowars has access to Alex at work.
Every single person.
Alex doesn't hide from anybody.
Alex doesn't look down on anybody.
Alex doesn't make sure that some people never have access to him or communicate with him.
That's how you know somebody is trying to operate in good faith.
That's how you know somebody is at least trying to run an organization and have everybody be a part of the team and not trying to hide anything, not trying to avoid anybody, not try to run from anybody.
And that's not to say working for Alex is easy.
I'm just saying I've been in situations where the boss doesn't want to even see the crew, doesn't want to communicate with the crew, wants nobody to have access to him.
And Alex is not like that at all.
And that's why it's so funny when people always make these things up about Alex.
It's just like you have no idea how wrong you are.
But so let's get back to the point.
Okay.
So now here we are, and conservatives, America firsters can't stand Ben Shapiro.
His commentary continues to separate him from the America First populist movement.
And more and more conservatives are disgusted by him.
And more and more he separates himself from the new right, as we call it, the new right.
So I guess, though, the question remains: was Shapiro ever an American conservative?
Or was he always there to be the Israeli influence and the Israel first voice?
And let's say Israel has all this control over the media.
They have some.
And let's say they decide they're going to own a couple of these major voices.
They're going to make sure they dominate the airwaves, Shapiro, Levin.
And yeah, hey, they've got great takes, conservative takes, American values.
They write the books.
They're the voice of the American right.
But then, but then, when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to Israel, that's what they're really loyal to.
At the end of the day, that's who yanks their chain.
That's who makes their decisions.
Now, you could say we're just speculating here, but the proof is in the pudding.
Whether it's that dark or innocent, that's what's going on.
And these voices no longer represent the American right.
Now, there's another dynamic to this.
The new right is not satisfied with the trajectory of the United States, politically, foreign policy, economically, you name it.
The old right kind of had this attitude of America can do no wrong and will always have it better than everyone else.
And so we kind of stick to this boomer, World War II foreign policy and worldview and old school conservative politics.
Well, that sentiment, that feeling is no longer mutual amongst young Americans.
It's no longer, it's no longer how the new right feels.
We don't have that mindset.
We don't have that worldview.
We're not going to be sit here and told by members of Congress that Israel is the most important thing.
We're not going to be sit here and told by members of Congress in our media that America needs Israel, not vice versa.
We're not going to sit here and be lectured that we have to support Israel no matter what they do.
By the way, same thing goes for Ukraine.
In a way, you could flip it between Ukraine and Israel in this conversation.
But amongst the right-wing, there's actually more of a split, although there's a split on both sides.
But the point is this.
Millennials did not have the same America that boomers grew up in.
We didn't have the same economy.
We didn't have the same access.
We didn't have the same comforts.
So that's where there's this new shift.
So the new right, the young right, the up-and-coming right-wing media says, we've done enough for the world.
We've done enough for Israel.
We've done enough for Ukraine.
We've done enough for all these foreign countries around the world.
When are we going to start taking care of us?
When are we going to start taking care of our own?
Now we're dealing with all these illegal immigrants.
We're sick of it.
We're fed up with it.
We're looking for a zero tolerance policy now.
The average American doesn't need to be living paycheck to paycheck.
The average American doesn't need to be giving the U.S. government 30% or more of all the money it earns, which mostly just ends up getting flushed down the toilet into foreign countries, into foreign aid, into things that don't help the average American.
We're sick of this.
We're done with this.
This is the message now.
You never hear this from Ben Shapiro.
You never hear this from Mark Levin.
This is the attitude of the new right.
We've been sold out long enough.
We don't want to see you as an American congressman running around the Capitol with an Israeli lapel pin, with a Ukrainian lapel pin.
We don't want to see that.
We're sick of that.
We're struggling.
We're suffering.
We have problems.
Our infrastructure is collapsing.
We got our own problems.
But there's this mindset like you're not supposed to care about your problems.
You're supposed to suffer now.
You've had it too good for too long.
We're not buying that.
That's not selling.
Doesn't fly here anymore.
Now, this is an observation and a commentary on the media aspect of this.
But there's a much more important, much more dangerous aspect of this that we need to get into now.
And Shapiro is kind of a fair representation of what could potentially happen on the world scale.
Now, anybody who's not talking about this is missing the picture altogether.
Even Jamie Dimon has been making some sense lately, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase.
And he comes out and he says, the way geopolitics are going, the way these tensions are building in the world, we're looking at a potential World War III scenario.
When you're looking at what the West is doing in Ukraine, when you look at what Israel is doing in the Middle East, these are two powder kegs.
And you know what happens when they look behind the curtain?
Who's in bed with the Ukrainian government?
Who's in bed with the Israeli government?
It's America.
It's America.
So when Russia talks about Ukraine attacking them, they know America is right there in their ear.
When all these Middle Eastern countries talk about the war crimes of Israel, and it's the whole planet now, by the way, it's the UN, it's all these different groups accusing Israel of genocide and war crimes, whether you believe it or not, that's what's going on.
They know they wouldn't be doing any of this without the support of America.
Now, that might be changing, I will say.
Ukraine without the United States of America backing it doesn't do anything.
Israel, though, Israel, it looks like, has gone completely rogue.
Israel now looks like it's broken with any normalcy of foreign policy or any mutual understanding of foreign entanglements.
It looks like they've completely broken from the United States.
The Biden administration is trying to have its cake and eaten too.
John Kirby, during these press conferences, is trying to have his cake and eat it too.
We know we're going to hold Israel accountable, but we still stand with Israel.
We'll always back Israel, but we're going to make sure they don't do this, that, or the other thing.
Well, what if that becomes their policy?
Well, then what do you do?
Well, we're still with Israel, but we're also not with Israel.
So they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I think Israel's left the world behind at this point.
I think they don't give a damn.
They don't care that dozens of countries are now accusing them of genocide.
They don't care that even the Biden administration is trying to separate itself from Israel.
They do not care.
And when they bombed the Iranian embassy in Syria, that was the big message of we don't care.
We're going to do whatever we want.
That's dangerous.
And if Iran looks at that as dangerous, if Lebanon and other countries look at that as dangerous, this is a powder keg waiting to happen.
And to me, Israel's like one or two steps away where these other countries are going to be like, that's it.
And if Israel does not have the full backing of the United States of America, now this is where it gets dicey, folks.
And this is why this is a serious situation.
And this is why the Ben Shapiro phenomenon is kind of a larger microcosm of what could happen here.
Israel cannot take on the Middle East, the Arab nations on its own, obviously.
Now, they have nukes.
They could just blow everything up, and maybe they would based off of their recent actions.
Maybe they would do that.
Or maybe they would try one other thing first.
Let's say Israel needs more support from the West.
Let's say Israel needs more support from the United States of America.
What do you think happens next, folks?
Keep in mind, we have a wide, open southern border.
We have a wide open southern border.
Who's to say we don't get a false flag in the United States of America?
We don't get some wound up proxy group killing Americans to push us into a war in the Middle East.
I think this is a very real scenario.
In fact, the National Security Committee, I believe it was, this was like whispering into the wind, came out and made a statement following up what the FBI said a couple months ago that we are now in the biggest threat of a terror attack on the United States of America.
And they even directly said to avoid large gatherings, including sporting events.
Think about that.
That was our U.S. government saying biggest terror threat, avoid large gatherings, including sporting events.
We have a wide open southern border.
They don't have the support of the American people to get involved in the Middle East.
They don't have the support of the American people to get involved in Ukraine.
What could happen to change that mindset?
What could be done to change that mindset?
I think you see what I'm getting at here, folks.
Would it really be that hard for a terror attack to happen here, for a false flag to be happening here with the wide open southern border, millions of people pouring in?
We don't know who they are.
And then, oh, blame Russia, or, oh, blame Iran, or oh, blame Hamas.
And now, boom.
There are not enough congressmen or women with a spine that will stand up and say, this could be a false flag, or this is Biden's fault.
We need to close the border.
This doesn't mean we go to war.
There will not be a large enough voting block in Congress to stop any further involvement in foreign entanglements and wars in that scenario.
Will not happen.
You'll have maybe 10 or 15, maybe.
Terror attack, Americans dead.
Do you really think the average congressman and woman is going to vote against going to war in that situation?
These people vote for omnibus bills, $1.2 trillion that they don't even read, that have millions of dollars for gay retirement homes.
So, yeah, when the U.S. government, the FBI, the National Security Council are coming out saying terror, threat imminent, avoid large gatherings, and we have a wide open southern border with millions of people pouring in.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you the real situation.
I'm going to talk about what nobody wants to talk about.
To further support for the war in Ukraine, there could be an attack in the United States, a false flag attack.
To further support for Israel in the Middle East, there could be a false flag attack killing Americans to get more support for that war and blame Hamas or blame Iran.
And there is really nothing we can do about it at this point.
The border is already open.
It's already collapsed.
The violent threat is already here.
And the FBI and the CIA and the National Security Council all know it and they've all told us.
They've all told us.
But it's like whispering into the wind.
the media doesn't cover it.
Now, why do I say Ben Shapiro is a microcosm?
Because Because notice how Ben Shapiro won't back off his bloodlusting on the air.
Notice how Ben Shapiro won't back off his hatred and commitment to letting the people know that he cares more about Israel than the United States.
Which, fine, if that's his stance, he's more than welcome to it.
That's fine for him to have that stance.
But stop posing like you're an American conservative.
You're not.
You're a Zionist, but it's that same attitude that Ben Shapiro has that Israel has.
They're not going to back down.
They're not going to back off.
They're not going to read the room.
They're going to double down.
They're going to triple down.
They're going to quadruple down.
They're not going anywhere.
This is a real dangerous situation for all countries involved, quite frankly.
And what's sad is that we'd like to think that we have control over our representation.
We'd like to think that we have control over our government, but we don't anymore.
we're not even sure if our vote counts anymore.
So we're basically run by psychotics, elected or unelected, that are going to vote for and support any war that comes their way.
They're not going to serve.
But maybe they got stock options in the weapons manufacturers and the defense contractors.
Maybe that's who funds them.
Maybe they're funded by the Israeli lobby.
So they're not going anywhere.
Their support for war isn't going anywhere.
And what can we do?
So you just get the feeling there's a major sea change happening.
And when our leadership is truly psychotic, truly deranged, sycophantic in the way they'll lie to us, we just have to be prepared.
We just have to be prepared for a major event to get us into war and for them to lie to us about it.
Because the American people don't want to go to war.
They don't want to support Ukraine.
They don't want to support Israel.
They just don't want anything to do with it.
Doesn't mean they're anti- or pro-anything.
They're pro-America.
They're anti-spending American tax dollars on foreign interventions.
We're sick of it.
We're done with it.
Americans have problems.
Americans are broke.
Americans are sick.
Our infrastructure is collapsing.
Our border is wide open.
Our politicians are corrupt.
We got problems we need to deal with here.
We're sick of hearing about foreign nations that do nothing for us except corrupt our nation's capital.
Now, I plan on getting deeper into this tomorrow on The Alex Jones Show, specifically the FBI, the National Security Council, warning Americans that there's a major terror threat on large gatherings, including sporting events.
And why is that?
Because the border is wide open.
Because the border is wide open.
done by design by the people that control Joe Biden.
And you know, that's what's so sick when you look at the American media and the American left.
That's what's so sick is they have this obsession, this hatred of Donald Trump that they can't even see what their hatred of Donald Trump has done to themselves, their own country, the risk that they've put themselves in in this absolute abomination of an administration,
absolute corruption that we're dealing with out of the white house but they just hate trump so much that they do not care
And now they're dealing with the bad policies with illegal immigrants in their hometowns, in their streets, taking their resources as they can't afford their grocery bill, their energy bill, the price to fill up their gas tank.
But don't worry, they won't vote for Trump because they hate him and he's a racist.
And you just look at the power of that propaganda.
You look at the power of that brainwashing.
It's a spectacle to behold, is it not?
Almost as incredible as the eclipse today to watch the American liberal get brainwashed into complete idiocracy.
And that's where we're at.
That's where we're at.
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Take your calls on this subject.
By the way, by the way, I was late getting on air tonight because I was making a couple adjustments.
I was making a couple of adjustments to the studio.
I think we might be adding a second camera soon, maybe some new lighting and stuff, but I'm kind of slowly adding some other stuff.
We've added a couple things.
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We've had a bit of a barn burner tonight in the NCAA National Title Game.
How about that?
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But you remember, I used to put the news up and then I'd mock the fake news media.
So now we're able to, we're able to fire multiple live streams now.
So we're almost fully back to where we were, but we're making a couple of adjustments.
But when you shop at Owensroyer.store, that's how we make it all possible.
All right.
We're going to go to the phone lines now.
747-25560.
We'll take a couple calls here on what we've discussed tonight.
We've got one caller on the line.
Remember, one line, line to line.
I pick up.
I ask for your name and where you're at.
That means you're on the air.
So, first caller, what's your name?
Where you're at?
unidentified
My name's Evan.
I'm from Anchorage.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right, Evan.
unidentified
So you were saying about Candace Owens and Ben, and like, you know, they didn't seem to have a good relation.
I was surprised that Candace Owens was ever hired from Daily Wire because nobody ever talks about this, but like a year, a few years before, and I've been trying to find it, but I can't.
But like Ben Shapiro was saying, well, real conservatives can't really talk about this.
You know, it's like they shouldn't think this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
And then Ben Shapiro just comes off.
Ben Shapiro comes off like an arrogant punk.
And so I don't know why anybody listens to that anyway.
unidentified
Well, just hold on, but he's, you know, he's speaking like how all conservatives think.
And Candace just comes down on him like a ton of bricks and is like, who the hell do you think you are telling conservatives?
You know, who made you, you know, the, you know, the spokesman for all conservatives and how we should think.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Exactly.
unidentified
And everybody was like, and everybody was backing her up.
And so when she was hired by Daily Wire, it's like, I can't believe that happened.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, you know, there's another, you know, and again, I don't have any specific knowledge of this, but I know this goes on in media.
There's another thing where, see, not everybody sells out for money, but there's this belief that if you can bring somebody in and pay them the right enough, right amount, that you can essentially silence them and control their narrative.
And so obviously that wasn't this case with Candace.
Maybe the Daily Wire thought they could bring Candace in and then control her message, but that's not how it went.
unidentified
Yeah, well, she didn't change.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
No.
unidentified
Anyway, that's all I had to talk about.
Thanks.
All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Thanks for the call.
Yeah, so that definitely goes on where news outlets will bring somebody in and then just try to control them with money.
But not everybody sells out.
Not everybody sells out.
This is the new right, okay?
We love our country.
You can't buy us off.
You can't buy us out.
It's not going to happen.
So maybe that's what they thought.
Because you could ask that why did they hire Candace in the first place?
Well, she was popular.
She was growing in popularity.
And there's no doubt that the Daily Wire has money and a development strategy for new talent that they bring in.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
And so they obviously had a plan for Candace.
She did well, but she didn't stick to the narrative.
And so things didn't work out.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, I'm Harley.
I'm in Wisconsin.
I'm the mail carrier who called previously.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hello, Harley.
unidentified
Hi.
Thanks for having my call.
So my thoughts on Ben Shapiro is I'm just so tired of hearing about him.
And with Candidus, what happened to Steven Crowder bad?
He left Daily Wire, and now she's good because she left.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, to be frank, I don't really care much about the Steven Crowder drama, so I'm not even really sure what you're talking about.
unidentified
When Steven Crowder left Daily Wire, Candidus made a big deal about it, and Ben Shapiro, and they both like double teamed Steven Crowder when he left.
And I personally don't care that much for it, that much either.
But, you know, it's just relating to Daily Wire in general.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, like I said, it's hard for me to comment because I just didn't follow what you're talking about.
So I just don't know.
I just didn't.
I didn't see that.
yeah but yeah um ben shapiro and but didn't but didn't um didn't didn't crowder leave the daily wire because of uh something similar though like Like he was saying that they wanted to control his show and control what he could say in his social media.
Wasn't that something to do with it?
Wasn't that kind of the story at the time?
That's what I remember.
unidentified
Exactly.
And it's just very interesting.
See, I think now you're kind of catching on.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
And it's just, it's just that I didn't understand the Candace aspect.
And you're saying at that point in time, Candace was kind of siding with the Daily Wire and Shapiro.
And I'm sure that that was, I'm sure that at the time, that was a loyalty move.
And now maybe she's kind of dealing with it herself and realizes, well, maybe Crowder was right.
Maybe she knew it the whole time, but just wanted to play a loyalty move to the Daily Wire that was cutting her checks.
unidentified
Exactly.
Yeah.
So it's just kind of interesting how no one's necessarily really talking about that part of this story of her leaving Daily Wire.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You know, I've kind of heard some chatter about that.
Not necessarily in reference to Candace Owens' potential hypocrisy, but more in this is what Crowder was warning about.
This is what Crowder was saying about the Daily Wire, how controlling and everything they were.
And look, you know, and here's the other thing, too.
It's not so unique, potentially, for a big news organization to want a lot of control.
I've never had to deal with that because I work at InfoWars with Alex.
And so it's kind of reached a point to me where it's so foreign of a concept that I just, I can't even imagine.
I wouldn't say that it's too odd necessarily, but see, this is all old hat stuff.
This is how the media used to be controlled, including on the right, including Fox News.
They cut you huge checks and they buy your loyalty, and your job essentially just becomes a reader.
You just read what's on the teleprompter or you read what's put in front of you and you just figure, I'm making enough money here.
What do I care whether what I'm saying is real or not?
And so that's not the case with the new media anymore.
That's not the case with the new media anymore.
You can't play that game in the new media landscape anymore.
unidentified
Yeah, and it's just beautiful and refreshing.
We have InfoWars, you know, we got Rumble now.
And it's just, it's finally of all these alternatives to listen to.
And it's hilarious.
And I find it kind of hilarious how Candace is breaking away and realizing it too.
She probably knew it, but it's amazing to see it, you know.
And I am curious where she's going to go.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I think she's starting her own thing.
I think it's what I've seen much.
I mean, I haven't been following her with a microscope, but it seems to me like she wants to start her own thing.
And she was doing a fundraiser for that.
unidentified
Yeah.
And that wouldn't surprise me.
I mean, she could easily excel just fine and rumble by herself if she does it right.
This podcast, PDH, I believe, they offered her a deal, but I don't think she's going to take up on it.
I don't know if you followed that network.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and you know, Patrick Bett David, you know, people are kind of not.
I get where they're coming from.
And thanks for the call again, Harley.
I get where some of this criticism from Patrick Bett David is coming from, but they just don't understand how PBD thinks, and they just don't understand the game.
PBD does.
There's a reason why he's a successful businessman, and now there's a reason why he's a successful talk show host because he understands how to play the game.
And so whether he was serious about offering Candace Owens the offer or not, I mean, I'm sure he would have followed through.
I'm not saying he wouldn't have followed through.
He's a man of his word.
I'm saying he understands how to inject himself and his show into the big stories and then add value to the commentary.
That's why he calls it value attainment.
And so it's why he did the same thing offering to host the debate there.
So that's kind of what I see going on with Patrick Bett David.
Maybe it's maybe it's a legitimate offer.
Not that he wouldn't, I mean, he would give it, he would, he would follow through, but it's more just like, hey, I'm going to become a part of the story.
I'm going to, I'm going to add value to this commentary by bringing people in with the gravity of the story and then adding my commentary to it.
Let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hey, Albert.
How are you doing?
Good to hear from you.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Hey, yeah.
Thanks, Owen.
Just wanted to say love my new gear.
The Biden brain freeze is definitely my favorite.
And I'll tell you what, I really like that new color.
It's kind of almost like a turquoise color or something in the Biden brain freeze one there.
I think that looks really cool.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I thought you were going to be complimentary of the cream color.
I was like, I think that this one would look good in cream, and you're going with the turquoise as your favorite.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I mean, the cream one, I mean, they all look good, but I'm just saying, you know, I always kind of attended towards blue anyway, and that's a pretty different color of blue there.
I just think it looks kind of cool.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Is that the sky blue, the light blue?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know what exactly we want to call it.
It's like a lighter blue.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Mystic blue.
It's called mystic blue.
Oh, no, wait.
Oh, there's a mystic blue, a chambray, and a royal carib.
Kariba?
These are exotic colors.
I don't know which one you're doing.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
We're exotic, man.
We've gone native.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely.
unidentified
Absolutely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You know the thing.
You know the thing.
unidentified
I got Harry Lane.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
You know, to think.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But no, on the Ben Shapiro thing, you know, honestly, I've never really been a big fan of Ben Shapiro.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, neither of us.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
And I've always, yeah, yeah, I've always kind of viewed him.
I don't know how you'd say, almost like a young boomer or something like that, like a young neocon.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
To me, it was more of the, to me, it was always the arrogance.
And, you know, he really just comes off arrogant, like he's talking down.
He always knows better than you.
He always thinks he's better than you.
I don't like being lectured by a punk like that.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
No, no, no, absolutely not.
And I also never really liked the mayor in which he spoke.
He spoke too fast, almost kind of like a used car salesman.
unidentified
Well, look, here's the problem.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Here's the problem.
unidentified
Here's the problem with you, Albert.
You're just not smart enough to keep up with me because my problem is that I have such a high queue that most of the audience can't even keep up with me.
I mean, I like 10 degrees.
Did I mention I was Jewish?
And so listen, when you tune into the show and you don't understand what's going on, that's just because you're not smart enough.
I'm much smarter than you.
And so you need to listen to me.
And in fact, the entire U.S. Congress should listen to me.
And I should be running foreign policy.
My name is Benjamaro.
Okay.
And I had to kick Candace Owens off my network because she didn't have my narrative and she went sideways on Israel.
If you want to work in the Daily Wire, you're going to have to be a lawyer to Israel.
And we made that perfectly clear.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
That was a spot-on, spot-on imitation right there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It was all right.
It was pretty good on the spot.
Not bad.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
No, no, no.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
You need to get into some stand-up with that gimmick right there.
unidentified
Listen, I've been listening to this guy Owens Fryer.
He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
He's clearly never read any of my books, which I didn't write anyway because it ghostwriter wrote for me.
I don't even remember what they're called.
But he has people calling it his channel.
They clearly know nothing about foreign policy and nothing about domestic policy either.
If they would listen to my show, maybe they would be better off.
I don't want to debate Candace Owens because she scares me.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
There you go, Owen.
There you go.
No, but no, I'm just kind of happy.
I'm just kind of happy to see that the new conservative movement Really kind of sees right through his BS, and he kind of is being ostracized.
You know what I mean?
It's, I don't know, I guess like a good sign that like we're no longer buying into kind of like the more neocon like intervention.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I think, I think it shows, I think it shows our understanding of the larger issue here is that the right and the left have been controlled for a long time and that the right and the left have been working against America, quite frankly, for a long time, selling America out for a long time.
And we're just fed up with this.
And, you know, part of me thinks that even the anti-establishment American left is eventually going to come around.
They don't really have the opposition as much in Congress.
Like, they let the squad kind of go off on Israel and stuff like that and do their communist bent.
But at the end of the day, they fall right back in line.
When Nancy Pelosi cracks the whip, they fall right back in line.
Whereas the Matt Gates, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the Thomas Massey, some of these guys we have in the Republican Party, they're loyal to their thoughts.
They're loyal to their beliefs.
They're loyal to what they think is best for America.
So I feel like, though, with the current situation in Israel and some other things that are developing on the left, I feel like the American left is eventually going to wake up too.
And it might even be just how pathetic this Biden administration is, where they're like, gee, I voted for this Biden guy and I've been sold a bill of goods here.
I'm getting screwed.
I'm getting ripped off.
So that might have something to do with it.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
No, no, totally.
And I've seen a lot of clips of like even Democrat voters and that saying, you know, that they're not really a fan of Biden.
And, you know, what was it?
The latest, that they don't even really believe he won.
Because I remember you've talked about on the war room how like 70% of people or whatever think that it's like 70% of Republicans.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It's like, it's like 40% of Americans don't think Biden actually won the election.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Right.
No, no, totally, totally.
And, you know, I really think that there is a, well, I guess, you know, you could say a great awakening going on.
And this whole Ben Shapiro thing with the conservatives kind of shutting him off, you know, is really kind of like, I guess, a sign of that and like, you know, a positive look and everything for our movement and that.
But no, that was pretty much my thoughts, Owen.
And, you know, glad to shout out the gear and support you in that.
And, you know, thanks for taking my call again.
And, you know, let you get to some other callers there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right, Albert.
Always good to hear from you.
And I look forward to hearing.
I think he was, I was talking to Albert earlier.
I think he just got his delivery in the mail either today or yesterday.
So he probably hasn't put in the Biden, put the Biden shirt on and gone out in public.
But I'm curious to see that's going to be a reaction I want to hear about.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
So he probably hasn't.
unidentified
Hello?
Yes.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hi.
Your name and where you're from.
unidentified
This is Sleepy Rick's Dad in FEMA Region 9.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hello, Sleepy Rick's dad.
unidentified
So I wanted to make time.
While I was watching here, I look at the top of the live chat and you've got those three little caps moving back and forth that kind of remind me of Hitler and Bill Gates rocking back and forth.
I've seen that on you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You're talking about in the Rumble Rants when I play the music and we put the dancing cat emojis up.
albert in pennsylvania ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, when Bill Gates thinks about adding vaccines to the livestock, he gets all excited like this.
unidentified
So regarding Ben Shapiro, you know, I'm an old guy, so I can't listen fast enough to listen to him talk.
So I'm not into Ben Shapiro at all.
That's just your problem.
That's just your problem.
I'm sick of people calling into this show and acting like I talk fast.
I don't talk fast.
I don't sound like Mickey Mouse on Laughing Gas.
And I'm a very serious person.
And just because my stature is short does not mean that my truth is long and tall.
It's very tall, effectually.
And in fact, you need to, you probably shouldn't even have a phone.
In fact, people like you shouldn't even be legally allowed to have a phone.
You shouldn't be allowed to possess a phone.
You shouldn't be allowed to possess a firearm.
Anyway, you know what the eclipse today?
I was out in the backyard with my magnifying glass burning ants.
And I figured, well, maybe the sun is reduced enough where I won't be able to burn ants very long.
And sure enough, they would scurry away.
They were like in a sauna rather than getting burst into flames.
But I- Wait a second.
Did you just say you like burning ants?
Maybe there's hope for you yet.
I like burning ants too.
And so maybe together we could burn some ants and then later go out for a light beverage because I do like burning ants.
And so me and you both like burning ants.
Maybe we have a cold light beverage after we burn some ass together.
Does that sound good?
Yeah, that sounds good.
You know what?
I'm a little confused because I'm watching you on my computer, but the phone time is off.
So you have to excuse me for not picking up on stuff right away.
And I had a stroke in a year ago.
You know that?
My brain got burned.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I'm glad you're still able to call in and have a conversation with us.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
And now, if you are in the Rumble Rants, if you are in the Rumble Rants, you need to add a dancing emoji when we play the music going out tonight.
That's what we do here.
It's tradition.
It's tradition on Owens Royer Live, the dancing emojis in the Rumble Rants.
So if you're listening to us on X tonight at Owens Royer 1776, always glad to have you.
If you're with us on Rumble, we love that.
And we come in with music, we go out with good music, and we dance to it together because music is good for the soul.
Let's take another call.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
It's Crushy.
That's so crazy.
I only used it one time and I just distracted.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, so now you're on the show, and what are you going to do?
unidentified
Well, I'm going to tell you thank you.
I got my shirt and it smells really good.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
That's weird.
The factory must have had some factory sense there.
unidentified
Fuck you.
That's a lie.
That was clone all over it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
We're going off the rails here, guys.
I should have expected better.
unidentified
Do you know you mailed me back the sticky note with my name and address on it?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I didn't mail that.
unidentified
You didn't mail it?
Oh, okay.
So you're like a big shot and you have people do it for you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I mean, I'm not as big shot as Ben Shapiro, but I mean, you know.
unidentified
That impersonation that you just did was like on point.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It's getting better, actually.
I think I'm getting better at it now.
unidentified
Don't you?
You said your neighbor's coaching.
Is that right?
Your neighbor's coaching?
Is that what you said?
Did I hear you cry?
Yep.
Listen, you need to take my advice.
I would not be calling it a talk shows like this.
And it's bad for you.
It's bad for all of humanity.
And it certainly does not support my cause, which is a war at the Gaza Trip.
Israel should have that land.
And when you call into this show, you support voices that are anti-Semitic.
And so I think you should just hang out the phone now.
In fact, you should just get rid of your phone.
Just like the last caller.
You shouldn't even be allowed to possess a phone.
Okay?
So that's just my best advice for you.
That's so scary how good you are at it, Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I'm all right.
unidentified
Did you have a good day?
Did you enjoy the eclipse?
Did you get to go out of the studio and see it at all?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, it just so happened we were in a break, I think, when the totality was happening.
It was really, it actually was really cool.
unidentified
That's perfect.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
It was actually really cool.
I like celestial events.
That was definitely awesome.
I've seen a couple eclipses.
But yeah, we took a little break and all the crew got to look at it.
And we covered it live.
Some people were out at Zilker Park here in Austin.
It was all on the Alex Jones show.
unidentified
I know.
I saw a little bit of it.
I had to work, but I snuck outside and took a peek.
We only had, I think it was like 70% coverage here in Arizona, but it's still like you can tell outside, like it got a little dim.
And then I have the glasses and you could still see the sliver of it.
So it was really interesting.
And I think I'm kind of with you too, Owen.
Like, I really enjoy celestial events as well, like meteor showers and eclipses and lunar eclipses.
But you know what the sad part is, is like there's like this evil force that's trying to use it for their benefit.
And that's what sucks.
You know what I mean?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Well, that's what we talked about, how they used to do that when people didn't know what the eclipse was.
They used to pretend like they were communicating with the gods and then the sun would black out because they had the ancient knowledge of the calendar and they knew what the eclipse was.
unidentified
And they would try to fool everyone, huh?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, that was from the movie Apocalypto.
Great film.
unidentified
I got to see it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You've never seen Apocalypto?
unidentified
No, you want to watch it with me?
Yeah.
We should.
We should have a little movie date.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I'll get right on that.
We'll all watch it together as a happy family.
How about that?
We'll do a streaming session together.
unidentified
We can include Sleepy Rick, I guess, but I'm kind of down with just you and I. Man, I need to get a call screener.
Hey, be nice.
I just wanted to let you know I'm thankful I got your shirt and I'm ripping it.
Maybe I'll send you some pictures in it.
I don't know.
I'm modest.
Don't worry.
You're not going to get any like crazy, like, just the emails, just the emails.
Yeah, you don't respond.
I feel like a stalker at this point.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right.
I've said enough.
You really set yourself up for another insult there, but I'm not going to do it.
You're a sweetheart.
And I appreciate your calling in.
It's always good to have you in the chats.
You keep the other ranters entertained in there as well.
They love talking about you.
unidentified
Yeah, you're a good man.
Maybe we can be friends one day.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
All right, Cushy.
Well, it's good to hear from you.
Have fun out there in Arizona.
There's a basketball game going on out there, but you probably don't care about that.
I'm guessing.
I'm guessing you don't care.
It looks like UConn.
I think this is going to be a back-to-back championship situation.
They're running away with it now.
They're just running away with it now.
I think that's two in a row for them.
When was the last time there was a back-to-back in the NCAA?
All right, we're going to take one more call.
We'd love to end with Cushy, but let's finish in a different way here.
Next caller, last caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, it's Kyle from Nebraska.
What's up?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Hey, Kyle, what's up?
unidentified
We got to work on your skills there with the blush.
I kind of saw you blushing a little bit there, I think, with her.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Don't make me hang up on you.
unidentified
No, hey, I just want to touch bass.
There's a song that I know you play a lot of heavy metal shit, which is good.
You know, gets everybody rolling.
We all love America.
You know, we're doing our best.
But if you can do a song by Larry Fleet, I don't do requests.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I don't do requests.
I'm DJ Tyrant.
Don't you know that?
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
Sorry, my bad.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
I'm DJ Tyrant.
I don't do requests.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
Everybody knows that.
You've learned the hard way, Kyle, that I'm DJ Tyrant.
When I DJ at parties and everything, I'm DJ Tyrant.
People make requests.
I don't do requests.
I'm DJ Tyrant.
I make the decisions here.
unidentified
So it just comes right off the top.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼
You know, sometimes I will think about it.
Tonight, I just didn't put much thought into it.
I wanted something that was kind of eclipse related.
So I thought, you know, black, it was a blackout from the eclipse.
But it's usually whatever I'm just listening to, whatever's trending or whatever is new.
I've been thinking about doing more EDM stuff lately, like some maybe Tiesto or Galantis.
I heard Zed is about to put out a new album.
So it's really just whatever I'm feeling.
But the audience, I think the audience likes metal.
I feel like it's a safe bet to go with rock and metal with this audience.
So I'll probably stick to that.
In fact, we're going to go now to a song here.
Kyle, appreciate the call.
Good to hear from you.
But yeah, I'm DJ Tyrant.
I don't take requests.
Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.
This song, we're going to go back to some death clock.
And man, there is a part in this song that the ending of this song goes so hard.
It's like, it's truly unreal.
The ending of this song goes about as hard as any song goes.
So buckle up, Buckaroos.
I make the requests around here.
I'm DJ Tyrant.
We're going out to Death Clock Cyborg Slayers.
I'll see you tomorrow on the Alex Jones show.
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Accelerate!
Sprout screens!
Info drink!
Accelerize!
Make the band!
Wake up!
Don't turn!
Come!
Go!
Come!
Now!
Now!
Go!
Now!
Go!
Now!
Commigrate!
Feel the break!
Take the symbols away!
Tear it down!
Keep your face!
Open out!
Sick and corners!
Ocean bowed!
All the guys!
From the home!
[background noise]
Infrared flint, mechanized opponents, there is no retreat.
Crush, save, burn, kill, lay no one alive.
Let no one survive, we annihilate.
Electric degradation, cut them down.
Let no one alive.
Let no one survive.
Turn over now.
Survive and collide.
Return to both.
Go on, straight up.
Great up.
Turn on your cold eyes.
I'm a crane, seal the freak.
Take the supports away, tear it down.
Take your face to a profit of the state, sensors.
Hate, infrared flights.
Mechanized opponents, there is no retreat.
Set, lay going alive.
Let go and survive.
We can dial.
Let go to quite some double your lane.
Lay no one alive.
Let no one survive.
Lay a dial.
Wherever the crime cut up your life, let go of the side.
Let go and survive.
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