Owen Shroyer argues conservatives are abandoning Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, and figures like Mark Levin for allegedly prioritizing Israeli interests over America’s—especially post-October 7th. The "new right" demands domestic focus, rejecting endless foreign aid and military interventions amid escalating global tensions. Shroyer warns of potential false flags to justify wars, ties terror threats to open borders, and accuses politicians of corruption or foreign loyalty. This shift signals a broader conservative rejection of establishment narratives, with even left-leaning critics possibly turning against Biden’s policies. [Automatically generated summary]
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Now, I want to give you a couple observations here.
It might be worth kind of setting this up with a little context as well.
Why are conservatives breaking from Ben Shapiro?
Why is this a significant story?
But why is that, more importantly, why is that or how is that just the beginning, as I say?
So maybe we should give a little context.
Let me first give a tiny bit of a background.
Because all I do is call it as I see it.
All I am is a I'm basically a play-by-play color commentator of American news and American politics.
So I do the play-by-play as things are happening, but as the color commentary, I give you future sight, foresight.
I look at things from the past.
I put it all together.
That's just my general perspective.
Now, I've always been that way.
And as far as the Israel situation or the Middle East, but more specifically, Israel, it's not really been a major subject of mine.
I would talk about foreign policy, and I would pretty much just leave it at that.
And quite frankly, people would accuse me of things, you know, an Israeli shill or where are my shekels, all this other stuff, which is completely nonsense.
I'm just loyal to the truth, period.
That's it.
I call it as I see it, always have, always will.
But the point is, I think that that adds a little context to where I'm at now in this perspective to show that I truly come from a neutral observational place.
But also, I think what it shows is it's not just an individual phenomenon or an isolated incident.
There is an entire mindset change in the conservative movement or in the America First Movement, as it's now called.
So I'm going to explain this, but I think it's worth that little background.
Now, here's another observation that's worth explaining before I get into this too.
I can put out absolute bangers on my Twitter account, and they do okay.
But if I put some negative commentary on Ben Shapiro out there, blows up.
Absolutely blows up.
Like, for example, I just put out last week, we put together a new Real Stable Genius ad.
Real Stable Genius is a little comedy spoof that we've been doing of the old commercials from the 90s and early 2000s of real men of genius, formerly real American heroes.
It was old radio commercial, some of the funniest stuff ever.
Just a little spinoff, a little spoof we do of that.
Very popular stuff.
Everybody loves him.
Everybody laughs.
Does well.
When I do negative commentary or, you know, I should even say when I do fair commentary on Ben Shapiro, it's more popular than anything else right now.
So we can isolate this into Ben Shapiro and who he is and why and ask some questions and get some responses from the audience.
But there's something bigger here.
There's something bigger here.
There's something bigger happening.
And Ben Shapiro is just a microcosm of it.
And to think that this is isolated to Ben Shapiro is to not do proper, to not do proper coverage or to not do full spectrum coverage.
Now, why is Ben Shapiro the focus?
Why is Ben Shapiro being isolated?
Well, really, in the last, say, or I guess better yet, since October 7th, Ben Shapiro has shown his true colors.
He is loyal to Israel.
He is loyal to the Jewish doctrine as he sees it.
And he really couldn't care less what his audience thinks or what other conservatives in the space think.
He either has no ability of self-awareness or self-reflection or he just doesn't care.
And while Shapiro has been A major voice in conservative media for quite some time now.
In fact, they pretty much destroyed Michael Savage's career for Ben Shapiro.
Now, Savage is pro-Israel as well.
He's also Jewish.
But Michael Savage gives honest takes.
Michael Savage is not controlled.
You never know what Michael Savage might cover.
So they pretty much replaced him with Shapiro and then Levin, another Israeli firster.
Levin is unlistenable now most of the time.
Shapiro has always been.
But these are individuals who like to portray themselves as American conservatives, as American right-wingers, and a voice for Republican voters.
But now we find out that really they are a voice of Israel and that their number one concern is that of Israel.
Now, that's perfectly fine.
You are welcome to do that.
The issue is they've propped themselves up.
They've built this career on American conservatism.
But as soon as American conservatism meets a crossroads with Israeli expansionism, Israeli war, Israeli foreign policy, Israeli first policy and influence, we see where their loyalties lie.
And so Shapiro has just been the worst with this, really.
And he keeps doubling down and tripling down and quadrupling down and then running circles around chasing his own tail, trying to avoid any serious discussion about it.
And, you know, I think it's worth adding one other observation from outside.
And I want to be careful not to leap to any conclusions tonight.
But I've been around media long enough to understand and be able to do some character analysis, let's say.
I've been through sports media with the biggest names.
I've been in political media with some of the biggest names.
I've worked for all big sports broadcasting corporations.
I've worked at InfoWars with Alex Jones for a long time.
And there was something interesting that developed in the Owens Shapiro drama that really stuck out to me.
So Owens and Shapiro are set to have a debate, and Shapiro is just running around like a dog chasing his tail, trying to avoid having this discussion.
And we all know why.
And here's the truth.
Ben Shapiro is a smart guy.
Ben Shapiro is a worthy opponent in a debate.
Let's not be fooled here.
But Ben Shapiro can't take the stance against Candace Owens because it will further expose who he is.
Ben Shapiro could definitely hold his own in a debate against Candace Owens.
But it's not about that.
It's about it would fully come to light his positions and he would never be able to recover.
And you're saying, but wait a second, he's already doubling down.
He's already tripling down.
He's already quadrupling down.
That's just his talk show.
That's just his audience.
Anybody left in his audience is loyal to that message anyway.
If he goes into the ring with Candace Owens, he destroys himself as a voice and a face and a name of the American conservative brand.
That's why he won't do it.
But that's not even the issue.
This is what stuck out to me.
Again, as somebody that's been through the media, the sports media, I've had access to some of the biggest names in sports.
I've had access to some of the biggest names in politics.
I've been around.
This is what stuck out to me.
Candace is seemingly having to go through back channels to have a discussion with Ben Shapiro.
And I'm thinking, well, this doesn't make sense to me.
Candace worked for Shapiro.
Candice, you could argue, was the number two at the Daily Wire for quite some time.
Now, I don't know much about the Daily Wire because I just don't follow their work.
I mean, obviously, I believe Michael Knowles works there.
I couldn't even tell you all the hosts, but I knew Candace Owens.
I knew Candace Owens worked there.
And I know they have some other people that work there too.
I think they hired some young girl now, too, that they're putting a bunch of money behind building her up.
I forget her name.
I think she married somebody, let's say, like Ben Shapiro.
So Candace was the number two at the Daily Wire.
I think it's fair to say.
I think it's fair to say that Candace was the number two at the Daily Wire.
So if Candace is your number two, you'd think that Candace and Ben would have some form of a relationship, of a cordial relationship or means of communication.
So when I'm seeing Candace having to go through the public and go through back channels to try to set up a debate with Shapiro and then having to do this strange communication campaign via the public, via her X account or social media accounts, I'm sitting here.
I'm thinking, wait a second.
Wait a second.
Did Candace Owens never have any access to Ben Shapiro?
Was there never any access?
Was there never any cordial relationship?
Was there never any mutual times where they were together in the office for business, for pleasure, whatever?
Now, the drama filling out here was they were trying to have a debate.
Candace Owens is out of town.
The Daily Wire obviously knew she was out of town.
So they set her up and they said, okay, let's do the debate.
It was supposed to be tonight.
They said, let's do the debate Monday night.
Has to be on our network in our studio.
Of course, they've got a profit off it, but whatever.
I don't even necessarily have a problem with that.
It is what it is.
And then she says, well, I'm in London.
You know, I'm in London, but I'll tell you what, I'll still do it.
I got to connect virtually, but let's still do it.
Candace is going through all the different possible ways to make this thing happen.
Candace wants it to happen.
I don't think Ben wants it to happen.
I think he's running around.
I think he's hiding like a coward.
But let me get back to the point.
How is it that Candace Owens didn't have regular access or communication with Ben Shapiro?
Now, this is a major indicator, ladies and gentlemen, of potentially a few things.
Corruption, maybe?
Cowardice, maybe?
Arrogance, perhaps.
But let me explain something from my experience.
And let me just work my way up my career.
When I work at jobs and my boss gives me access to them, him or her, I've had it both ways.
That means there's open communication.
That means there's good communication.
And that means they're not cowardice.
They're not trying to hide anything.
They're operating in good faith.
They want to make sure you're operating in good faith.
That's a good professional relationship.
I've even had times where I've had bosses where we've had disagreements, but yet there was still that communication.
Very important.
Now, I've also had jobs where that communication was lacking.
I could not get access to the boss.
I could not get access to individuals.
I could not get communications or discussions in good faith.
And every time that was the case, there was either some form of corruption going on or some form of cowardice going on for one reason or the other.
Every single time.
Every single time.
And this goes from politics to sports.
And I could even be, you go to the lowest common denominator.
I've worked with some of the biggest names in sports.
The guys that show up and don't look down on you, even the guys that get their coffee, the top broadcasters in sports, even the guys that get their coffee, they'll go and they'll shake their hand and they say, and they'll either know their name or they'll say, what is your name?
Thank you for this coffee.
Hey, do you mind getting me this?
Do you mind getting me that?
Hey, you're doing a great job today.
And then I've seen others.
They won't even look at the help.
And so the guys that communicate, the guys that shake your hand, the guys that look you in the eye, they end up being great guys.
They end up being great, very nice people, down to earth, the kind of people you'd want to hang around with.
The ones that don't want to even look at the help, the ones that don't even want to talk to you, don't even know your name, they're jerks.
They're a-holes.
Nobody wants to be associated with them.
Nobody likes them.
Now, that's the most innocent of the explanation here when it comes to Shapiro.
But I'm just wondering, what is it that makes it seems irregular to me?
Why wouldn't Shapiro and Owens have free access to communicate with one another when you're talking about probably the two biggest names at the Daily Wire?
What is up with that?
Is Ben just a jerk?
Is Ben just a coward?
Or is there something else going on here?
But that's what I see.
When I saw that Owens apparently can't even get regular communication or access to Shapiro, I'm sitting here.
I'm saying, well, what is that about?
Now, let me explain something else.
Every single member of the crew at Infowars has access to Alex at work.
Every single person.
Alex doesn't hide from anybody.
Alex doesn't look down on anybody.
Alex doesn't make sure that some people never have access to him or communicate with him.
That's how you know somebody is trying to operate in good faith.
That's how you know somebody is at least trying to run an organization and have everybody be a part of the team and not trying to hide anything, not trying to avoid anybody, not try to run from anybody.
And that's not to say working for Alex is easy.
I'm just saying I've been in situations where the boss doesn't want to even see the crew, doesn't want to communicate with the crew, wants nobody to have access to him.
And Alex is not like that at all.
And that's why it's so funny when people always make these things up about Alex.
It's just like you have no idea how wrong you are.
But so let's get back to the point.
Okay.
So now here we are, and conservatives, America firsters can't stand Ben Shapiro.
His commentary continues to separate him from the America First populist movement.
And more and more conservatives are disgusted by him.
And more and more he separates himself from the new right, as we call it, the new right.
So I guess, though, the question remains: was Shapiro ever an American conservative?
Or was he always there to be the Israeli influence and the Israel first voice?
And let's say Israel has all this control over the media.
They have some.
And let's say they decide they're going to own a couple of these major voices.
They're going to make sure they dominate the airwaves, Shapiro, Levin.
And yeah, hey, they've got great takes, conservative takes, American values.
They write the books.
They're the voice of the American right.
But then, but then, when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to Israel, that's what they're really loyal to.
At the end of the day, that's who yanks their chain.
That's who makes their decisions.
Now, you could say we're just speculating here, but the proof is in the pudding.
Whether it's that dark or innocent, that's what's going on.
And these voices no longer represent the American right.
Now, there's another dynamic to this.
The new right is not satisfied with the trajectory of the United States, politically, foreign policy, economically, you name it.
The old right kind of had this attitude of America can do no wrong and will always have it better than everyone else.
And so we kind of stick to this boomer, World War II foreign policy and worldview and old school conservative politics.
Well, that sentiment, that feeling is no longer mutual amongst young Americans.
It's no longer, it's no longer how the new right feels.
We don't have that mindset.
We don't have that worldview.
We're not going to be sit here and told by members of Congress that Israel is the most important thing.
We're not going to be sit here and told by members of Congress in our media that America needs Israel, not vice versa.
We're not going to sit here and be lectured that we have to support Israel no matter what they do.
By the way, same thing goes for Ukraine.
In a way, you could flip it between Ukraine and Israel in this conversation.
But amongst the right-wing, there's actually more of a split, although there's a split on both sides.
But the point is this.
Millennials did not have the same America that boomers grew up in.
We didn't have the same economy.
We didn't have the same access.
We didn't have the same comforts.
So that's where there's this new shift.
So the new right, the young right, the up-and-coming right-wing media says, we've done enough for the world.
We've done enough for Israel.
We've done enough for Ukraine.
We've done enough for all these foreign countries around the world.
When are we going to start taking care of us?
When are we going to start taking care of our own?
Now we're dealing with all these illegal immigrants.
We're sick of it.
We're fed up with it.
We're looking for a zero tolerance policy now.
The average American doesn't need to be living paycheck to paycheck.
The average American doesn't need to be giving the U.S. government 30% or more of all the money it earns, which mostly just ends up getting flushed down the toilet into foreign countries, into foreign aid, into things that don't help the average American.
We're sick of this.
We're done with this.
This is the message now.
You never hear this from Ben Shapiro.
You never hear this from Mark Levin.
This is the attitude of the new right.
We've been sold out long enough.
We don't want to see you as an American congressman running around the Capitol with an Israeli lapel pin, with a Ukrainian lapel pin.
We don't want to see that.
We're sick of that.
We're struggling.
We're suffering.
We have problems.
Our infrastructure is collapsing.
We got our own problems.
But there's this mindset like you're not supposed to care about your problems.
You're supposed to suffer now.
You've had it too good for too long.
We're not buying that.
That's not selling.
Doesn't fly here anymore.
Now, this is an observation and a commentary on the media aspect of this.
But there's a much more important, much more dangerous aspect of this that we need to get into now.
And Shapiro is kind of a fair representation of what could potentially happen on the world scale.
Now, anybody who's not talking about this is missing the picture altogether.
Even Jamie Dimon has been making some sense lately, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase.
And he comes out and he says, the way geopolitics are going, the way these tensions are building in the world, we're looking at a potential World War III scenario.
When you're looking at what the West is doing in Ukraine, when you look at what Israel is doing in the Middle East, these are two powder kegs.
And you know what happens when they look behind the curtain?
Who's in bed with the Ukrainian government?
Who's in bed with the Israeli government?
It's America.
It's America.
So when Russia talks about Ukraine attacking them, they know America is right there in their ear.
When all these Middle Eastern countries talk about the war crimes of Israel, and it's the whole planet now, by the way, it's the UN, it's all these different groups accusing Israel of genocide and war crimes, whether you believe it or not, that's what's going on.
They know they wouldn't be doing any of this without the support of America.
Now, that might be changing, I will say.
Ukraine without the United States of America backing it doesn't do anything.
Israel, though, Israel, it looks like, has gone completely rogue.
Israel now looks like it's broken with any normalcy of foreign policy or any mutual understanding of foreign entanglements.
It looks like they've completely broken from the United States.
The Biden administration is trying to have its cake and eaten too.
John Kirby, during these press conferences, is trying to have his cake and eat it too.
We know we're going to hold Israel accountable, but we still stand with Israel.
We'll always back Israel, but we're going to make sure they don't do this, that, or the other thing.
Well, what if that becomes their policy?
Well, then what do you do?
Well, we're still with Israel, but we're also not with Israel.
So they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I think Israel's left the world behind at this point.
I think they don't give a damn.
They don't care that dozens of countries are now accusing them of genocide.
They don't care that even the Biden administration is trying to separate itself from Israel.
They do not care.
And when they bombed the Iranian embassy in Syria, that was the big message of we don't care.
We're going to do whatever we want.
That's dangerous.
And if Iran looks at that as dangerous, if Lebanon and other countries look at that as dangerous, this is a powder keg waiting to happen.
And to me, Israel's like one or two steps away where these other countries are going to be like, that's it.
And if Israel does not have the full backing of the United States of America, now this is where it gets dicey, folks.
And this is why this is a serious situation.
And this is why the Ben Shapiro phenomenon is kind of a larger microcosm of what could happen here.
Israel cannot take on the Middle East, the Arab nations on its own, obviously.
Now, they have nukes.
They could just blow everything up, and maybe they would based off of their recent actions.
Let's say Israel needs more support from the West.
Let's say Israel needs more support from the United States of America.
What do you think happens next, folks?
Keep in mind, we have a wide, open southern border.
We have a wide open southern border.
Who's to say we don't get a false flag in the United States of America?
We don't get some wound up proxy group killing Americans to push us into a war in the Middle East.
I think this is a very real scenario.
In fact, the National Security Committee, I believe it was, this was like whispering into the wind, came out and made a statement following up what the FBI said a couple months ago that we are now in the biggest threat of a terror attack on the United States of America.
And they even directly said to avoid large gatherings, including sporting events.
Think about that.
That was our U.S. government saying biggest terror threat, avoid large gatherings, including sporting events.
We have a wide open southern border.
They don't have the support of the American people to get involved in the Middle East.
They don't have the support of the American people to get involved in Ukraine.
What could happen to change that mindset?
What could be done to change that mindset?
I think you see what I'm getting at here, folks.
Would it really be that hard for a terror attack to happen here, for a false flag to be happening here with the wide open southern border, millions of people pouring in?
We don't know who they are.
And then, oh, blame Russia, or, oh, blame Iran, or oh, blame Hamas.
And now, boom.
There are not enough congressmen or women with a spine that will stand up and say, this could be a false flag, or this is Biden's fault.
We need to close the border.
This doesn't mean we go to war.
There will not be a large enough voting block in Congress to stop any further involvement in foreign entanglements and wars in that scenario.
Will not happen.
You'll have maybe 10 or 15, maybe.
Terror attack, Americans dead.
Do you really think the average congressman and woman is going to vote against going to war in that situation?
These people vote for omnibus bills, $1.2 trillion that they don't even read, that have millions of dollars for gay retirement homes.
So, yeah, when the U.S. government, the FBI, the National Security Council are coming out saying terror, threat imminent, avoid large gatherings, and we have a wide open southern border with millions of people pouring in.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you the real situation.
I'm going to talk about what nobody wants to talk about.
To further support for the war in Ukraine, there could be an attack in the United States, a false flag attack.
To further support for Israel in the Middle East, there could be a false flag attack killing Americans to get more support for that war and blame Hamas or blame Iran.
And there is really nothing we can do about it at this point.
The border is already open.
It's already collapsed.
The violent threat is already here.
And the FBI and the CIA and the National Security Council all know it and they've all told us.
They've all told us.
But it's like whispering into the wind.
the media doesn't cover it.
Now, why do I say Ben Shapiro is a microcosm?
Because Because notice how Ben Shapiro won't back off his bloodlusting on the air.
Notice how Ben Shapiro won't back off his hatred and commitment to letting the people know that he cares more about Israel than the United States.
Which, fine, if that's his stance, he's more than welcome to it.
That's fine for him to have that stance.
But stop posing like you're an American conservative.
You're not.
You're a Zionist, but it's that same attitude that Ben Shapiro has that Israel has.
They're not going to back down.
They're not going to back off.
They're not going to read the room.
They're going to double down.
They're going to triple down.
They're going to quadruple down.
They're not going anywhere.
This is a real dangerous situation for all countries involved, quite frankly.
And what's sad is that we'd like to think that we have control over our representation.
We'd like to think that we have control over our government, but we don't anymore.
we're not even sure if our vote counts anymore.
So we're basically run by psychotics, elected or unelected, that are going to vote for and support any war that comes their way.
They're not going to serve.
But maybe they got stock options in the weapons manufacturers and the defense contractors.
Maybe that's who funds them.
Maybe they're funded by the Israeli lobby.
So they're not going anywhere.
Their support for war isn't going anywhere.
And what can we do?
So you just get the feeling there's a major sea change happening.
And when our leadership is truly psychotic, truly deranged, sycophantic in the way they'll lie to us, we just have to be prepared.
We just have to be prepared for a major event to get us into war and for them to lie to us about it.
Because the American people don't want to go to war.
They don't want to support Ukraine.
They don't want to support Israel.
They just don't want anything to do with it.
Doesn't mean they're anti- or pro-anything.
They're pro-America.
They're anti-spending American tax dollars on foreign interventions.
We're sick of it.
We're done with it.
Americans have problems.
Americans are broke.
Americans are sick.
Our infrastructure is collapsing.
Our border is wide open.
Our politicians are corrupt.
We got problems we need to deal with here.
We're sick of hearing about foreign nations that do nothing for us except corrupt our nation's capital.
Now, I plan on getting deeper into this tomorrow on The Alex Jones Show, specifically the FBI, the National Security Council, warning Americans that there's a major terror threat on large gatherings, including sporting events.
And why is that?
Because the border is wide open.
Because the border is wide open.
done by design by the people that control Joe Biden.
And you know, that's what's so sick when you look at the American media and the American left.
That's what's so sick is they have this obsession, this hatred of Donald Trump that they can't even see what their hatred of Donald Trump has done to themselves, their own country, the risk that they've put themselves in in this absolute abomination of an administration,
absolute corruption that we're dealing with out of the white house but they just hate trump so much that they do not care
And now they're dealing with the bad policies with illegal immigrants in their hometowns, in their streets, taking their resources as they can't afford their grocery bill, their energy bill, the price to fill up their gas tank.
But don't worry, they won't vote for Trump because they hate him and he's a racist.
And you just look at the power of that propaganda.
So you were saying about Candace Owens and Ben, and like, you know, they didn't seem to have a good relation.
I was surprised that Candace Owens was ever hired from Daily Wire because nobody ever talks about this, but like a year, a few years before, and I've been trying to find it, but I can't.
But like Ben Shapiro was saying, well, real conservatives can't really talk about this.
Well, you know, there's another, you know, and again, I don't have any specific knowledge of this, but I know this goes on in media.
There's another thing where, see, not everybody sells out for money, but there's this belief that if you can bring somebody in and pay them the right enough, right amount, that you can essentially silence them and control their narrative.
And so obviously that wasn't this case with Candace.
Maybe the Daily Wire thought they could bring Candace in and then control her message, but that's not how it went.
Well, like I said, it's hard for me to comment because I just didn't follow what you're talking about.
So I just don't know.
I just didn't.
I didn't see that.
yeah but yeah um ben shapiro and but didn't but didn't um didn't didn't crowder leave the daily wire because of uh something similar though like Like he was saying that they wanted to control his show and control what he could say in his social media.
Yeah, and you know, Patrick Bett David, you know, people are kind of not.
I get where they're coming from.
And thanks for the call again, Harley.
I get where some of this criticism from Patrick Bett David is coming from, but they just don't understand how PBD thinks, and they just don't understand the game.
PBD does.
There's a reason why he's a successful businessman, and now there's a reason why he's a successful talk show host because he understands how to play the game.
And so whether he was serious about offering Candace Owens the offer or not, I mean, I'm sure he would have followed through.
I'm not saying he wouldn't have followed through.
He's a man of his word.
I'm saying he understands how to inject himself and his show into the big stories and then add value to the commentary.
That's why he calls it value attainment.
And so it's why he did the same thing offering to host the debate there.
So that's kind of what I see going on with Patrick Bett David.
Maybe it's maybe it's a legitimate offer.
Not that he wouldn't, I mean, he would give it, he would, he would follow through, but it's more just like, hey, I'm going to become a part of the story.
Yeah, I mean, the cream one, I mean, they all look good, but I'm just saying, you know, I always kind of attended towards blue anyway, and that's a pretty different color of blue there.
You're just not smart enough to keep up with me because my problem is that I have such a high queue that most of the audience can't even keep up with me.
I mean, I like 10 degrees.
Did I mention I was Jewish?
And so listen, when you tune into the show and you don't understand what's going on, that's just because you're not smart enough.
I'm much smarter than you.
And so you need to listen to me.
And in fact, the entire U.S. Congress should listen to me.
And I should be running foreign policy.
My name is Benjamaro.
Okay.
And I had to kick Candace Owens off my network because she didn't have my narrative and she went sideways on Israel.
If you want to work in the Daily Wire, you're going to have to be a lawyer to Israel.
Well, I think, I think it shows, I think it shows our understanding of the larger issue here is that the right and the left have been controlled for a long time and that the right and the left have been working against America, quite frankly, for a long time, selling America out for a long time.
And we're just fed up with this.
And, you know, part of me thinks that even the anti-establishment American left is eventually going to come around.
They don't really have the opposition as much in Congress.
Like, they let the squad kind of go off on Israel and stuff like that and do their communist bent.
But at the end of the day, they fall right back in line.
When Nancy Pelosi cracks the whip, they fall right back in line.
Whereas the Matt Gates, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the Thomas Massey, some of these guys we have in the Republican Party, they're loyal to their thoughts.
They're loyal to their beliefs.
They're loyal to what they think is best for America.
So I feel like, though, with the current situation in Israel and some other things that are developing on the left, I feel like the American left is eventually going to wake up too.
And it might even be just how pathetic this Biden administration is, where they're like, gee, I voted for this Biden guy and I've been sold a bill of goods here.
And, you know, I really think that there is a, well, I guess, you know, you could say a great awakening going on.
And this whole Ben Shapiro thing with the conservatives kind of shutting him off, you know, is really kind of like, I guess, a sign of that and like, you know, a positive look and everything for our movement and that.
But no, that was pretty much my thoughts, Owen.
And, you know, glad to shout out the gear and support you in that.
While I was watching here, I look at the top of the live chat and you've got those three little caps moving back and forth that kind of remind me of Hitler and Bill Gates rocking back and forth.
Well, that's what we talked about, how they used to do that when people didn't know what the eclipse was.
They used to pretend like they were communicating with the gods and then the sun would black out because they had the ancient knowledge of the calendar and they knew what the eclipse was.