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OSL 52 - Will The Democrats Replace Joe Biden And How Will They Do It?
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owen shroyer
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unidentified
Did you get your hat yet?
owen shroyer
I'm curious if you got your hat yet.
Let me know in the chat.
As usual, we're monitoring the chats.
We're monitoring the Twitter chats and we are monitoring the rumble rants.
Mostly, though, mostly though, the rumble rants.
So we might even be responding to some rumble rants tonight just because I want to hear what you think.
Now, look, how are the Democrats going to get rid of Joe Biden?
That's the ultimate question.
joe biden
Think about what you'd think about.
owen shroyer
I'm thinking about it.
I'm trying to think about it.
joe biden
This is the United States Kemer, for God's sake.
owen shroyer
And we can't have Joe Biden as the president.
unidentified
And what am I doing here?
owen shroyer
Right.
So, where I've been on this issue is that they're going to roll with Joe Biden.
And I figured that they're going to roll with Joe Biden, figuring that Trump is too hard to beat.
So let Biden take the fall.
Let Biden take the loss.
Commit all kinds of atrocities, war crimes, dastardly deeds, border invasion, economic collapse.
Just do it all in the name of Joe Biden.
Let Joe Biden take the fall.
Biden's legacy doesn't matter to anybody.
And so I'm thinking, well, this is their plan.
Their plan is to just ride Joe Biden out.
He's a lame duck president, so they can do whatever they want in Joe Biden's name, war, economic collapse, you name it.
And then in 2028, make their big push for whoever it is they have up their sleeve.
Now, a lot of people have the mindset that Michelle Obama is going to run.
You know, I would say, without my ego speaking, that I probably have some of the top-tier political foresight and insight in the news media that's not in the D.C. beltway.
But there's a few others I think are maybe still above me.
And one being Roger Stone, my dear friend.
And he thinks it's Michelle Obama.
I don't believe it's Michelle Obama.
I don't think Michelle Obama has any interest in running.
And I don't know how you lure Michelle Obama into running.
I don't know what you can offer Michelle Obama that she doesn't already have.
She's got the fortune.
She's got the fame.
So I just don't see it.
I just don't see how it's Michelle Obama.
I really don't.
And I don't think Michelle Obama wants to run against Donald Trump.
So who else they got?
Well, they got Gavin Newsom, probably a strong candidate, all things considered.
And then they have Kamala Harris.
Now, there's already been news circulating, and this is just a response mechanism.
Oh, Kamala, what if Joe can't continue to run?
And Kamala says, well, I'm all fit and I'm ready to serve.
I'm fit to serve.
But then they just make that a headline.
And then they publish it and they get clicks and they generate impressions, revenue, what have you.
And then it's, oh, look, Kamala Harris says she's ready to replace Joe Biden.
So I never thought the Democrats were going to replace Joe Biden in this election cycle.
I always figured they were going to ride Joe Biden out to the finish line here and then come back big in 2028.
But as I'm doing deeper dives into the special counsel and how this deal played out and the internal fighting happening inside the Democrat Party and inside the Biden administration, you do have to wonder not only who's calling the shots, but who is setting Joe Biden up for failure.
Now, there's one anomaly in all of this that has me so confused.
And that is, why is Barack Obama, why is Bill Clinton campaigning fundraising with and for Joe Biden?
I just don't get it.
Now, you could say, well, they're just going through the motions.
They're just showing support.
Maybe they're setting Joe Biden up for some sort of a big fall, figuratively, literally.
I just don't get it.
Why would they be putting all of this political capital behind Joe Biden?
Why would Obama be running and campaigning with Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and the rest?
Why would they be doing that?
I see some people in the chat saying for optics, for optics.
But okay, so when, but for what is the point?
That they're all still unified, that they're all still united behind Joe.
But why would they want to do that if they wanted to get rid of Joe Biden?
Now, the inside-the-beltway DC talk is that Joe Biden and Barack Obama don't get along.
In fact, Barack Obama might even despise Joe Biden.
And it's likely that Hillary Clinton is bitter towards all of these people because she lost to Trump and then Biden got to beat Trump and be president, and Hillary never did.
I don't think they throw Hillary's name back in there, but maybe that's the maybe that's the dark horse that we're not looking at here.
Maybe Hillary is the dark horse that we're not looking at here.
Could there be some sort of a sympathy vote?
Unify behind Biden, commit all these evil acts in his lame duck presidency.
Biden has a medical issue sometime before the election, and that's when they do the swap.
That's the only way I see this going down.
There has to be some sort of a medical event.
There has to be some sort of a massive event that forces Joe Biden out of the picture.
Because I don't think, I think the optics are too bad of just saying we're sick of Joe and attacking him in a political way that's too damaging to the Democrat Party.
So I think that it's going to have to be a medical event that they're going to use to take Biden out.
I think that has to be the answer to this riddle.
And then who they replace him with, that's the next issue.
But they've got it too good with Joe Biden right now because he can fall in the petard of bad policy.
He can fall in the petard of the border invasion.
He can fall in the petard of inflation, war, everything else.
All these things that the Democrats are doing with their policy, it wouldn't matter if it was Joe Biden or anybody.
All these things the Democrats are doing with their policy can fall on Joe Biden and his legacy can be destroyed.
And they can blame him.
And then they can say, oh, the sympathy vote.
Oh, our poor Joe come out and vote with Joe Biden now, the dead guy, or whatever it is.
Or, oh, you know, he fought till the bitter end, but now his dementia is so bad.
So let's get to the big anvil.
And that is the special counsel Robert Herz report.
This report is damaging to Joe Biden, not in the way we'd like it to be, not in the way it should be, but in a very subtle way.
The Democrats can't protect Biden from this for the next eight months.
Cannot be done.
Either Joe Biden consciously committed crimes or Joe Biden is too mentally incompetent to be the president of the United States.
There's no other way to slice this.
There's no other way to slice this pie.
It's one of those two options.
And that's what the special counsel's report has basically done is put Joe Biden in between that rock and hard place.
And his response coming out with that press conference didn't help him either.
But in all fairness, that barely even registered on the Richter scale because nobody was watching, unfortunately.
But when you look at that and then you ask yourself, who's really running the White House?
Who's really running the Democrat Party?
It's not Joe Biden.
Is it Barack Obama?
And when you look at the media and when you look at the Department of Justice and when you look at the DHS, it's all Obama acolytes.
It's all Barack Obama friends and loyalists.
So Barack Obama could be in the process of sabotaging Joe Biden very subtly right before our very eyes right now.
That could be going on.
And that might make sense why Merritt Garland doesn't listen to Joe Biden.
That might make sense why the special counsel report put Biden in between the rock and the hard place.
And that might be why the media is building up now to basically throw Joe Biden, the baby out with the bathwater.
Now, in the interim, they can still commit all the atrocities that the Democrats would like to commit against this country, the wars, the economic collapse, everything else, the open border.
They can still all of this, do all of this in Biden's name and not necessarily hurt their party.
And then they can bring in the replacement and even go against the Biden policy and say, well, Biden did fail at the border or Biden did fail economically or Biden did fail here or did fail there.
And so now all of a sudden they've juxtaposed themselves against the failed Biden.
So now they can create their own bad guy that they can juxtapose themselves against.
And Obama is likely running the whole show.
And I think that that's why you don't charge Joe Biden, but you put him in between the rock and the hard place.
And you say, okay, Joe, here's the deal.
We got you red-handed committing these crimes, but we let you off on the technicality that you're not mentally fit for trial.
unidentified
So, what are you going to do?
owen shroyer
Because we can destroy you in the media or we can destroy you in the justice system.
What are you going to do, Joe?
you're going to have a health problem and you're going to step aside and you're going to endorse the next candidate.
I think that that is their likely play here.
Nobody's going to believe 80 million votes for Joe Biden this time around.
Nobody.
And I don't think they can pull off the amount of voter fraud that they did in 2020 without some massive event happening where they can rewrite the election rules or even cancel an election.
But there is no doubt that the Democrats have a Joe Biden problem.
Now, RFK Jr. did an interview tonight with Jesse Waters.
And of course, he's talking about the Democrats wanting to get rid of Joe Biden as well.
But see, RFK Jr. dropped out of the rigged Democrat primaries because he knows that he would have no shot.
and so now he's running as an independent obviously he didn't have the democrat party supporting him Otherwise, he would have stayed in the race for the same reason that Nikki Haley is still in the race, which is I'm still in the race in case Donald Trump goes to jail.
I'm still in the race in case Donald Trump is removed from the ballot.
I'm still in the race in case, for whatever reason, Trump can't run.
So that's Nikki Haley's reason.
That's Nikki Haley's reason for still being on the ticket.
Now, again, RFK Jr. could have ran that same style, that same mentality, but he knew the Democrats wouldn't support him.
Nikki Haley's clearly still getting support from the Republican Party.
And I think the whole reason why Ronna McDaniel did not leave her post, we'll see what happens by the end of this week.
But if Ronna McDaniel doesn't leave, I'll even give her till the end of February.
I'll give her till the end of February.
I'll give them both till the end of February.
But if Ronna McDaniel does not leave her post or Nikki Haley does not drop out before the end of February, then the Republican Party is planning on Donald Trump not being on the ballot or Donald Trump not being able to run in November.
Otherwise, there would be no reason.
There would be no reason why they wouldn't throw their full support behind Donald Trump.
And there'd be no reason for Nikki Haley to continue running.
And there'd be no reason for Ronna McDaniel, Ronna Romney McDaniel, to stay as the head of the RNC because nobody else really in the Republican Party wants Rana around or Haley around.
Everybody is behind Trump except those establishment types.
So Ronna Romney McDaniel is hanging on because they're the anti-Trump wing.
Nikki Haley is hanging on because she's the anti-Trump wing.
And they have till the end of February to remove themselves from the equation or that's basically on the same plan as the Democrats, which is Trump is not going to get our nomination.
We're going to replace him at the end of the day.
Or when the Democrats do finally get Trump off the ballot, they'll celebrate.
They'll bring in Haley.
So I would say that's what's going on on both sides of the aisle right now.
But I wonder, I wonder what you think about it all.
I wonder what you think about it all.
So I'm going to open up the phone lines, but I got to give a shout out to my friends at Fafo Farms here in Texas.
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I'm sorry.
This is for people in the central Texas area.
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So FafoFarms TX.com.
But unfortunately, although they do have soaps, They do have soaps, so you actually can order soaps from our friends at Fafo Farms, but they cannot give you any of the raw food because you're not allowed to cross state lines.
But if you're somewhere in the central Texas area, let me tell you, they got it going on, and it's veteran-owned.
But they got all kinds of things, too.
Like I said, you can order the soap anywhere in the country.
Let them know I sent you, but man, their chicken is fantastic.
Best butter I've ever had.
The raw milk, I'm obsessed with it now.
Their cheese is good, too.
I don't eat much cheese.
And then there's the Shroyer protein special.
Gotta love them for that.
unidentified
Nope.
owen shroyer
All right.
FafoFarmstx.com.
Okay.
Now, I want to open up the phone lines and hear what you think the Democrats' plan is.
How they're going to get rid of Joe Biden.
Are they going to ride him out till the bitter end?
Who do you think they're going to replace him with?
These are the questions.
And I'll be coming to you through the owen.gold microphone.
747-200-5560 is the number I pick up.
I put you on the air.
I ask you your name, where you're from.
Line to line.
You're on the air.
And we start now.
First caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where you're from?
unidentified
What's that microphone?
owen shroyer
Well, it's now the Owen.gold microphone.
I kind of don't like saying my own name like that, but that's the new website.
So, I guess I just got to roll with it.
donnie in oklahoma
What am I doing here?
unidentified
What am I doing here?
owen shroyer
Nobody knows.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Sleepy Rick, FEMA Region 4.
How dare you say I can't restore Roe?
Watch me.
End of quote.
Trinclation.
owen shroyer
Yeah, he even did the end of quote.
unidentified
It's trinklation.
joe biden
I got hairy legs.
unidentified
It's my ice cream.
Hey, look, okay.
I remember marching in the civil rights movement with Mandela and while kids rubbed up and down my hairy legs as I made Mexico open the gates of Gaza.
joe biden
And the kids used to come up and reach in the pole and rub my leg down.
owen shroyer
Those were good days.
Those were good days for Joe.
unidentified
Mexico opened the gates of Gaza and let corn pop out.
It's a true story.
owen shroyer
All Biden does is tell the truth.
Just ask him.
unidentified
You're not living in reality, Jack.
It's my friend Big D, she keeps her turbo force in the fridge with these nuts.
owen shroyer
I actually keep my vitamin mineral fusion in the fridge.
unidentified
Hey, you young whippersnapper?
I like that new logo you got, that Gold Eagle logo.
It's great.
owen shroyer
Yes, we have rebranded, we have rebranded the InfoWars War Room, and it is now the InfoWars War Room Election Headquarters.
And that was a little brainchild of mine, actually.
And well, I was going to pull it up here and show them.
Let me see if we got the full show uploaded here.
Yeah, we got the silver.
There we go.
unidentified
I think you pulled that up.
Hey, by the way, Abe Lincoln's clone.
Happy birthday, man.
owen shroyer
Well, of course, it's not my birthday.
But Joe Biden might be confused thinking it's my birthday.
It was Alex's birthday on Sunday.
unidentified
I thought it was your birthday today.
You're that guy up on that mountain, right?
owen shroyer
Is it Abraham Lincoln's birthday?
unidentified
Sure you.
How in the hell do you not know that, Jack?
owen shroyer
Man, I don't know.
I don't know all the presidential birthdays.
Washington's birthday is a holiday, but I think that's the only birthday that's a holiday.
I don't think there's another.
unidentified
I've been playing that music creed.
They would have smoked usher last night.
owen shroyer
Creed did the greatest halftime show ever, but that was during a Thanksgiving Day game.
unidentified
I think it was Prince, but I liked I like the creed.
owen shroyer
Michael Jackson had the best halftime show ever, actually.
unidentified
But Ice Ice Clown Spice, that's KGP.
That's her alter ego Paul Dancers.
owen shroyer
February 22nd is George Washington's birthday.
unidentified
Abe Lincoln, Jack.
owen shroyer
Well, happy birthday to my clone.
Or I'm his clone.
Or I'm Abe Lincoln's clone, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
But, you know, it's, I've done more for the Ukraine in a single term than I've done for America in 50 years.
You understand me?
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you what.
I think people are burnt out from Joe Biden, is what I think.
And I think people are looking for new Democrat leadership.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
donnie in oklahoma
Donnie.
What's up?
owen shroyer
What's up, Donnie and Tulsa?
donnie in oklahoma
Well, I remembered you were on just now.
There's a lot of stuff.
But hey, they had that Super Bowl on last night, and I don't give a those guys are a lot like I am.
The construction workers, the stock car racers, the guys that do the rodeo.
And I've been throwed off about everything you can think of.
He's shot at.
And I'm feeling a little tough.
These old professional fighters, you know, Muhammad Ali or whatever, they get to feeling kind of rough when they get to my age.
And it's like, what are they doing?
Because I noticed, like, who is that?
Tom Petty, Prince, some of those other guys, they're taking opioids, right?
Let's just be honest.
And I've been on them and I broke away from them.
I'm using this cheap damn beer and I hate it.
But it's like the inflammation's horrible.
So it's like, I don't know if you have anything on that, but it came out of sports media.
And I love it.
Hey, by the way, you are excellent as one of the premier talk show hosts or whatever.
You're great.
But anyway, if you could address that, I don't know.
owen shroyer
That's wait a second.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
You're saying you're a seasoned citizen.
Am I hearing that you're a seasoned citizen?
unidentified
Yeah, beat all to hell.
donnie in oklahoma
You're beat up.
I have, I, I, hey, look, I hate to say this on there.
I was told I was a mean MFer ass whipper, right?
You're saying you were a guy that knew me personally.
owen shroyer
You were a bad motherfucker.
donnie in oklahoma
Let me tell you this: that you're out of St. Louis, you've seen that railroad yard there, and you've seen the little old TRRT trains running around.
My uncle out of World War II was a bull there for 20 years.
Hey, nobody stole off his chain, train.
They didn't put up with that crap.
He didn't tolerate it.
I mean, like, and the local cops and the state cops and stuff, they hated his guts.
But because he's railroad, he's under federal protection.
And hey, to run a clean railroad.
owen shroyer
Well, these days, you're not allowed to stop criminals.
unidentified
And if you stop a criminal, yeah, he'd be in trouble, wouldn't he?
donnie in oklahoma
He'd be in trouble.
unidentified
If you stop a criminal, now you're the criminal.
owen shroyer
You're the criminal if you stop a criminal.
donnie in oklahoma
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he just like I am.
I'm starting to just ignore that.
And we need to go back to these states having the governor go, hey, our government has abdocated the responsibilities on the Constitution.
And there's no need for us to send.
owen shroyer
Did you see that video?
Did you see that video?
I'll pull it up in case you didn't.
But there was a video.
It was another older gentleman.
He was sick and tired of this crap.
And he gets up in front of his city council.
And I think he called them all like, you know, queers and queers and fatties.
You saw that one.
donnie in oklahoma
I want to see the rest of that.
owen shroyer
I'm going to try to find that.
I'll pull the whole thing up for you.
But listen, listen.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
I'm serious.
You've probably listened enough to me to know that I'm actually big into health.
I'm guessing that's why you called into the show to ask, you know, what you can do.
donnie in oklahoma
You're great at that, man.
I'd go for that.
Maybe.
owen shroyer
So this is just, I still, and you know what?
I'm probably not as old as you.
I'm just guessing.
unidentified
I'm 34, but what sucks you're going to get there and soothe it up?
donnie in oklahoma
I believe, believe me, at this blink of an eye, you're here.
owen shroyer
Well, even once, even now that I've crossed the new 30s and I'm 34 now, I can already tell the difference.
I just hope it doesn't get too much worse.
But like, it's like I have a bone bruise right now in my heel from a basketball injury that happened maybe like a month or so ago.
When you're in your 20s, you heal from this stuff.
Like, I mean, the next week you're up, you're good.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I can't get, I can't get rid of all kinds of stuff.
owen shroyer
I can't get rid of this damn bone bruise.
My friend calls me to take a run the other day.
My friend calls me to play ball the other night.
I'm like, man, I can't run.
I'm just barely able to even walk without a limp.
But I got one thing for you that I'd like for you to try.
And I can tell you that this definitely helps me with soreness and inflammation.
And so this is a shameless plug.
It's just the truth.
We do sell a product at InfoWarstore.com.
Body.
donnie in oklahoma
Oh, I use them.
I'm using that.
owen shroyer
Have you tried bodies?
Have you tried bodies?
donnie in oklahoma
Well, the nitro boost is actually helping me.
I mean, circulatory problems.
owen shroyer
Well, certainly that'll help.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'll definitely help because it'll get you.
donnie in oklahoma
Go ahead, like, what was this thing you said?
The product.
owen shroyer
I got it on the screen.
It's called bodies.
It's a turmeric formula.
Turmeric is huge for anti-inflammatory sport, flexibility support, joint support.
I take this every time I know I'm going to be sore after a ball sesh or a workout.
I got one more for you, though.
That's bodies.
That's infowarstore.com.
That's a shameless plug.
You support that.
You support InfoWars.
donnie in oklahoma
Yeah, I got that on.
I'm a regular buyer.
owen shroyer
Let me show you one that has actually made a huge difference for me.
Oh, man, what's it called?
Man, I want to make sure.
Yeah, this is it.
I'm just pulling this up on Amazon, but I'm sure they have their own website.
So I'm not trying to give Amazon a plug.
unidentified
But since you're asking this, I follow InfoWars all the time.
owen shroyer
This product has also made a huge difference for me as well.
It's called Longevity Ultimate Glucogel Joint and Cartilage Support.
I started taking this about a year or two ago when my knees started to bark every day.
And this has been a major, major relief factor for me, too.
So I would suggest bodies, and then I would suggest this ultimate glucogel formula.
donnie in oklahoma
Again, I'm sure you guys got one more thing to say.
owen shroyer
Yeah, go ahead.
donnie in oklahoma
Go ahead.
owen shroyer
Go ahead.
donnie in oklahoma
Well, I'll tell you, you know, I told you before, I've been married 45 years, and my wife had cancer about, I think, seven years or so ago.
And they wanted to put her through the same freaking chemo treatment that they did her mom and brother and my mom and my dad and kill them.
And I went health if and no.
And I wouldn't put up.
I got a deal here.
I went through nine lawyers until the last one.
He was jumping on the floor when I told him my game plan.
It's like, I ain't putting up with this.
I'm exposing you, SOB.
And you see, Toby Keith, he was seemed to be a pretty decent sort out of Oklahoma.
I was off in different circles, but I know who he was.
And, you know, apparently he put up with and got a rotten doctor, maybe.
I mean, this cancer's coming from somewhere.
It's a freaking GMOs in the oils.
owen shroyer
Well, we're learning.
We're learning.
donnie in oklahoma
What's causing the inflammation?
owen shroyer
Well, you can go back.
You go back in time.
In fact, there's this viral video going around of New York City in the 30s.
Let me try to pull this up in a short period of time.
donnie in oklahoma
I saw that.
I saw that today.
owen shroyer
They're all lean.
donnie in oklahoma
I was an FSA boy.
And the herd looks very sick, Owen.
I mean, you talked to a lot of sports figures.
They got to work their butts off to get to looking lean and fit.
I mean, I remember being 175 and there wasn't an ounce of fat on me.
I mean, I could hold two guys up and bash their brains out.
owen shroyer
Our food is poisoned.
Our food is poisoned.
People are eating poisoned food.
They're eating crappy food.
They're eating food that makes them hungrier.
So diet is a major issue.
unidentified
And, uh, and I don't know if, look at it like this, look at it like this.
donnie in oklahoma
This here water drainage system we're in is going to the Mississippi, Cairo, Mississippi, or Cairo, Illinois, you know, Camp Defiance, a confluence of the Ohio and the Mississippi.
You got the Missouri River coming in just north of St. Louis, and all that stuff they're spraying on these fields out here.
And I know a friend of mine's older brother was running these GMO crops on these experimental fields and all that stuff's going.
Can you imagine being Baton Rouge or New Orleans?
One of them cancer clusters.
You could actually do a show after show.
And hey, Mike Adams is great.
NATO News.
Hey, I promote all you guys.
I love you.
What you're doing.
Because, hey, I took myself out over that vaccine when they already did it partially, but then when they come after kid, little kids six months old, I went, boy, I just blew it.
owen shroyer
You know, well, it's disgusting.
And maybe the vaccines are causing the cancer, quite frankly.
Aside from the stuff we put our food in, cook our food in, what's ever in the fast food, the GMOs, there's all kinds of things.
You really got to pay attention to your diet these days and pray.
And I don't even know.
The mainstream cancer treatments probably don't help much either.
Thanks for the call.
Let's go to the next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
It's me, Andrew.
owen shroyer
Andrew?
unidentified
Hey, man.
Hey, brother.
Wow.
Okay, this is new to me.
Hey, just okay, I guess to the point.
I had a theory on what they're going to do at the whole election thing is that they might actually say that Trump actually won and then say that he can't run for a third term.
Okay, that's out of the box.
But I'm a little starstruck here at the moment, man.
owen shroyer
Take a deep breath.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Is that I think that they're going to pull something that's out of the box that we ain't ever seen before.
owen shroyer
Well, I don't see how they can stop him from running, saying it's a third term because he's only had one term.
unidentified
Well, have they followed a law anywhere in the past?
owen shroyer
Well, they're already trying all these different legal routes to keep him off the ballot and to keep him from running.
I mean, I guess if all else fails, then they might try that one, but that would be too far-fetched.
unidentified
Well, I wouldn't put it too far from their cache of unrealities.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I think they've probably got other things they'll try before that one.
That one wouldn't make any sense to me.
unidentified
Here's another one.
Have you ever tried the hydrogen water?
owen shroyer
Hydrogen water?
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I don't think so.
unidentified
No, that's a very much a new thing that it's something that I think InfoWar should investigate and maybe get leg up on that one.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you what, I'll look into hydrogen water.
That's a new one to me.
All right.
Next caller, what's your name?
you're from.
Going once.
Going twice.
And gone.
unidentified
Not going to make it.
owen shroyer
Have you ever heard of hydrogen water?
Yeah, I've heard of oxygenated oxygenated water, alkaline water, hydrogen water.
Have you guys ever heard of hydrogen water in the chat?
is anybody out there i mean yeah i guess ever there so The chat says, isn't all water hydrogen?
H2O, isn't it all hydrogen?
Yeah, I mean, you could go out on the streets and say, oh, hey, there's a bill to ban H2O.
And some people would probably say, yeah, I want to ban that.
Some people would probably say to ban H2O.
Seeing people say dumber things.
I've been sitting on this clip on the war room for such a long time, but it's incredible how little college students actually know.
Would you like to ban dihydrogen monoxide?
And they wouldn't even know.
Yeah, it turns out the government is putting dihydrogen monoxide into the water supply.
But.
But dihydrogen monoxide, if you drink too much of it, can kill you.
And so we're just out here with a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide from the water supply.
We're just looking for people to sign.
Yeah, just right there.
Thank you.
You're doing a great deed, by the way.
You're doing a great deed by helping us ban dihydrogen monoxide.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Maybe the caller is talking about trihydrogen monoxide.
Does such a thing even exist?
Yeah, the government is adding a chemical to the water that fish and other aquatic animals like to defecate and urinate in.
And we want to get this banned from the water pile.
You don't want to be drinking fish urine.
Yes, ban dihydrogen monoxide from the water supply.
Thank you for signing.
Thank you.
Okay, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
buck fiden in unknown
Hey, what's up, Bowen?
It's Buck Biden.
owen shroyer
Hey, what's up?
What's up?
buck fiden in unknown
Hey, not much, man.
Thanks for taking my call.
Hey, so, yeah, so it kind of goes back to what you're saying with, you know, you could kind of ask these people all kind of different things, and they wouldn't know kind of what they're, what they're even, you know, choosing to ban these days.
Kind of makes me think, you know, we kind of used to joke around about this back in the day.
You know, the population kind of, you know, how they're, they don't seem to be very, very astute these days, you could say.
You know, these people are now taking positions of power.
You know, these people are now running the government.
They're running certain aspects of our government.
unidentified
What is 15 times four?
buck fiden in unknown
It used to be kind of funny that they used to not be so smart, but you know, they're in positions of power now.
owen shroyer
Yeah, they've made their way up the up the social ladder with the years.
Imagine how bad it's going to get.
buck fiden in unknown
Well, that's what I think we're seeing.
owen shroyer
And now with the whole diversity thing, here, here, let me play this clip.
Hold it right there because let's play this clip.
This is the clip I was talking about.
College students, this is Kennesaw State.
They don't even know basic math.
unidentified
What is 15 times 4?
15 times 4.
Gosh.
20, 32, 30.
So 23.
24.
48, 48.
48.
It's 40.
You say 48 or 44.
I was like 48.
What is 15 times 4?
15 times 4.
owen shroyer
So there you go.
15 times 4.
They don't even know 15 times 4.
And I'm not even a big math guy.
Math is like my worst subject in school.
I struggled with math.
But these are college students.
They don't even know basic math.
They don't even know.
You could say, oh, how many states are in the United States?
They don't know how many states you're in the United States.
buck fiden in unknown
They don't know basics of what it even takes to be a citizen of the country anymore.
You could go out there and ask them just basics about the Constitution, about the Bill of Rights, you name it.
I think we're seeing the whole thing come to fruition here.
These people are taking positions of power.
It was a joke back in the day when you kind of see these people and you see them and you're like, well, I don't remember being kind of that out of it when I was, you know, do you think Kareem Jean Pierre?
owen shroyer
Do you think Kareem Jean Pierre could do four times 15?
buck fiden in unknown
I mean, I'm not a math scholar myself, but I don't think she could do two plus two, to be honest with you, you know, with what she's putting out these days.
But yeah, I got to give it to Deucey, man.
Doocy's the only one in there that gives that gives any sort of any sort of grief to her, to be honest with you.
And I can't actually understand why they keep calling on him.
Why do you think they call on him?
owen shroyer
By the way, well, he does represent Fox News, and Fox News is number one.
I mean, they have the highest rating, so it's kind of like I think they have to.
buck fiden in unknown
Is Simon Atiba?
Is he even still in the room or they let him in there still?
owen shroyer
Yeah, he still has his press credentials.
They just never call on him.
buck fiden in unknown
Yeah, that's a shame, man.
That's a good guy, man.
He's a really good guy.
And he's put a lot out there that's been beneficial for everyone.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and I think they kicked, I'm pretty sure they kicked OAN out entirely.
buck fiden in unknown
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I mean, Ducey's about the only one left in there that's giving any sort of any sort of resistance or, you know, cross currents to these people.
So it's good to see that.
But I'll tell you, I think, real quick, just you guys were talking earlier about the kind of whole situation with Kamala.
I think they're going to put Kamala in for a brief period of time to knock out, you know, check off the box of the first woman president.
I do still hold firm on the big mic.
I know that you're not with that, but I do think that they're going to launch this big Mike thing at the DNC, kind of last push here.
You know, we're going to go get close down to the wire scenario, right?
And they're all going to get behind Big Mike and Gavin.
owen shroyer
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm pretty sure the DNC is in July.
Let me get the exact date of that.
buck fiden in unknown
It's July 18th, I believe.
owen shroyer
I think it's in Milwaukee, I believe.
Is it Milwaukee?
No, it's August, August 19th in Chicago.
buck fiden in unknown
Yeah, that's pretty late.
That's pretty glad.
That's pretty late, I think, in terms of, you know, but they are the only people that could realistically do a last-minute change right then and then get the troops behind, you know, the Democrat, you know, the Democrat Party behind whoever the candidate is.
You know, you just see a lot of the stuff.
You see Fox even talking about Big Mike now.
You see, you see a lot of the mainstream even jogging, you know, just some big mic feelers out there.
So there's something to it, something to it for sure.
So I don't know.
owen shroyer
I just don't see Big Mike.
unidentified
I don't think Big Mike wants the job.
buck fiden in unknown
I don't think that he or she does either.
I think it's honestly, who else did they have, though?
I mean, they have put all this time into Biden, right?
All of this, all the eggs in the Biden basket, but nobody wants him to run.
75% of the people think he's a joke.
I mean, even of their own party.
So there just is nobody that they have put any momentum in besides Gavin.
So who could they even run if they needed to, right?
So like, who is it besides Michelle?
Is what I say.
You know, who is the person that they could last minute just rally everybody behind on the Democrat side besides Michelle Obama is what I'm looking at more so than the other way around.
So that's that's that's what I think.
That's my two cents on it.
But I think we're going to find out here.
We're getting very close.
We're getting very close, man.
owen shroyer
I mean, they'd have to bribe Big Mike.
They'd have to bribe Michelle.
It'd have to be bribes.
I mean, I don't know why they're making, they got all the money they need.
She's got all the fame and fortune that she needs.
So I just don't know why.
She's got the life.
She's basically retired.
So they'd have to bribe her big.
And I mean, sure.
She would absolutely cash in if she did serve as president for four years.
I just don't think she wants it.
The only reason I even humor the idea is because Roger Stone thinks it's going to happen.
Otherwise, I wouldn't even hear the idea.
I mean, Barack Obama has his own baggage, folks.
And while he might be more popular than Biden, keep in mind, Biden campaigned for, or excuse me, Obama campaigned for Hillary and it didn't work.
unidentified
I don't know.
owen shroyer
I don't think the Obamas have the political capital that some people think that they do.
A lot of Obama voters are now Trump voters, by the way.
Probably at least 30%, I would say.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Hey, this is Sleepy Rick's dad in FEMA Region 9.
owen shroyer
You know, you can't call into the same show twice.
This is a violation.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
This is his father.
owen shroyer
I don't believe that for one second.
unidentified
You don't?
owen shroyer
No.
unidentified
I'm 75 years old, dude.
No.
And I and I don't live in FEMA Region 4.
And I got a question for you if you would like to get into it.
owen shroyer
What's the question?
unidentified
Well, you know, if the Dems put up a winning ticket like Oprah and Joy Reed, for example, and run the country into the group.
Stop it!
I can't.
owen shroyer
No.
unidentified
And they run the country into the ground, you know, and the economy goes to heck and the supply chain goes down.
Well, I'm a meat eater, okay?
And I've heard Alex talk about having to string up his neighbors and eat them.
But I was wondering if you had a special diet or excuse me, special menu, a way to prepare bodies that may be injected with the spike protein to nullify it.
owen shroyer
Well, that's, I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
Nobody would want to eat, nobody would want to eat a COVID-injected COVID-injected individual.
COVID vaccine.
Well, though, if you're starving to death and you're at that level of cannibalism, you probably don't care.
So my answer to that is no.
I don't know how to cook out the COVID vaccine.
Do you guys think that that is Rick or and Rick's dad, or do you think it's one caller trolling me?
Because I have to say, I don't have any way of having like a caller ID here, but it was a different phone number that called in.
So Rick is either calling me from a different phone number or Rick and his father, Rick, both call into the show.
I don't know.
We got another caller, though.
What's your name where you're from?
unidentified
Maxine from Florida.
owen shroyer
All right, Maxine.
unidentified
Well, I just wanted to call in and make a comment about the Michelle Obama possible run for president.
You know, there's like basically three components that people, well, let me just say that it's money, sex, and power.
And those are the three main things that motivate people that are wanting to be at the top in that capacity.
Not necessarily just president, but I mean to say that's what kind of drives people.
And so maybe it's power.
I mean, she has, you know, money.
It's true.
But maybe there's things to be done and it's a push of power.
That's just my thoughts.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but Michelle is, I mean, she's popular in her own right.
She's got the book deals.
She's got her Netflix deals.
She's got more money than she ever needs.
She's got the fancy properties.
She's got the security.
I mean, what does she need?
What good does she have in running?
If anything, she's smart enough to know it would hurt her popularity.
unidentified
Well, I don't know.
You know, just looking at the way all this is going, I don't even know if it is something to do that would be like a personal aspiration as it as it would be more of maybe to complete a course of work of some kind, you know, with everything they have going on.
God knows.
Only God knows what's really going on.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like she could be like part of the plan, so to speak.
And I don't mean like some conspiracy theory plan QAnon thing or something.
I'm not trying to get into that.
But, you know, you obviously, whether their plans are poor, well put together or not, which could be debated, they have some planning going on behind the scenes.
So I don't know.
I don't really know if, I mean, I like Roger Stone too.
And like you said, if he wasn't saying it, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
But who knows?
Maybe it's.
owen shroyer
Well, I would say this.
The Democrats are in a lot more disarray than it would appear.
The Democrats are truly in disarray behind the scenes.
Do not doubt that.
Now, they may have a plan, but there is serious disarray right now.
Nobody takes the Biden administration seriously.
And I don't mean that from our perspective.
I mean that from internally.
Nobody wants to work for Joe Biden.
Nobody wants to work for Kamala Harris.
They're very unpopular, even inside the Democrat Party circles.
So it's really a bad thing.
And so behind the scenes, somebody is trying to sabotage Joe Biden.
They want, there's no doubt, but it's still confusing because why would they be about to launch this massive campaign with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and then do this massive fundraising push?
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, who do you think is going to, who do you think is going to be their front runner?
owen shroyer
I still think Biden.
I still think it's Biden.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, if they can keep him going long enough, huh?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's Biden's biggest challenge.
And maybe that's their bet.
I mean, maybe they're just thinking, all right, well, there's nothing we can do ourselves to really get him out of the way without hurting ourselves, hurting our cause.
So maybe nature can take its course.
Maybe the Democrats are betting on nature taking its course with Joe Biden.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah, this is true.
I agree.
I'm so glad that you got a prison.
I did pray for you while you were there.
And you really took that like a trooper.
I was praying that you wouldn't have to go.
I just have to say that, but you did.
And you just did so well with it.
I know it had to be very difficult, but God had his hand on you and here you are.
So I feel very thankful that, you know, everything's good with you.
And I just wanted to throw that in there.
But I guess it's going to be a wait and see what happens, you know, with what's coming up, you know.
So I just had to throw my two bits in on that one.
You do a great job.
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Thank you, Maxine.
By the way, what happened to whatever happened to loudmouth, big mouth bass Maxine Waters?
She kind of just disappeared off the scene, didn't she?
She kind of just disappeared into thin air.
Boy, she shut up quick.
What happened to that loudmouth bitch, Maxine Waters?
Good riddance.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
unidentified
Loudmouth bitch.
I don't hear that type of language from you very much.
This is Dominic from St. Louis.
How are you, Owen?
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, you know, Maxine Waters is the worst thing to ever come out of St. Louis.
unidentified
You know, that's actually a gem.
You even know that.
Not too many do since she's represented California for what, like 60 years.
owen shroyer
It's despicable.
I don't even want, I don't even want St. Louis to own that wicked witch.
unidentified
I agree with you.
owen shroyer
That James Brown, death cadaver, warmed up wig stealing witch.
unidentified
All right.
So serious matters here.
My question for you is: do you honestly think that Michelle's got a choice?
If the machine wants to insert somebody, they're going to get inserted.
I don't know if it's really she wants the power or wants this or that.
I think that if they designate her as the chosen one, there's no choice.
Do you have an opinion on that or how do you feel about that?
owen shroyer
Well, my question could be: what leverage do they have over Michelle Obama?
Like, how do they leverage her into running if she doesn't want to run?
unidentified
Well, I mean, I imagine with her husband being president for eight years, there's probably quite a few things that they've maybe got on him to where, I mean, you know, the power of these people.
They do a ton of pretty ridiculously evil stuff.
owen shroyer
You know, there were some rumors.
There were some rumors that Barack and Michelle were actually kind of on the outs.
You know, she's been traveling the world without Barack.
unidentified
Yeah, I have seen that.
So, in other words, you think that you don't think that basically they're going to force or coerce her into doing it, like regardless of whether she wants to or not?
owen shroyer
I mean, I mean, I guess if we're both, if we're both just going off the off the most common denominator here, there has to be some sort of blackmail leverage that they have on Michelle.
unidentified
You know, I mean, it's got to be the biggest one would be what may or may not be within her pants.
I mean, let's just be honest.
owen shroyer
The package?
unidentified
I personally don't actually think that's true, but I mean, Lord knows how horrible that would be if that ever came out.
owen shroyer
You don't believe the Big Mike conspiracy theories?
unidentified
I mean, you know, anything's possible, but it's, I do think it's just something that's easy to jump on.
It's obviously funny, but I don't know.
I mean, she's got a massive, like, regardless of all the pictures you see of like the imprint and all that.
Sorry, but it's true.
Like, just looking at her back, I mean, it's like professional athlete.
It's a little ridiculous.
owen shroyer
Well, and, well, there's other, there's other tells, like, men's index fingers are longer than their pointer fingers.
Women's are not.
Men typically have their feet when they're standing out closer to like a 90-degree angle, where women's are either straighter or more bent in.
And then just the sheer size.
I mean, that's a powerful woman.
But there's other, you know, there's other women out there that are sizable.
I mean, you look at, you know, Serena Williams is a big woman.
unidentified
Dude, I was literally just going to say her because she's pretty massive too, but she's also, you know, we don't hear a lot about the Williams sisters anymore.
I'm pretty sure their dad was fully red-pilled.
Like, have you ever seen the interview where it's Serena with David Letterman, and she's talking about how Andy Murray would kick her ass in the straight sets because he's a guy?
owen shroyer
Yeah, there was a segment and they were insinuating somehow that she could compete with men at tennis.
And she basically just laughed that notion out of the room.
But she did eventually actually compete against some no-name male tennis player who was like 800th ranked or something and she did lose.
And she said men's sports are different.
It's not even a fair comparison.
unidentified
Wow.
I didn't know that she actually ended up going against someone.
All right.
Well, that's encouraging.
If you don't think that, because I mean, a lot of times I just think they're going to do whatever we want or whatever they want, and we don't really have a choice about it.
And I was just thinking that's, you know, because you see all this coverage of Biden now, and it's really changed.
I mean, really, they're certainly giving him a lot more critical coverage than they once did.
owen shroyer
So the media, the media can destroy Joe Biden.
No doubt the media can destroy Joe Biden, but that still doesn't give us or the Democrats a solution.
unidentified
What do you think?
And sorry, this is kind of a double-ended one.
What do you think about Newsome?
Because obviously we only hear about two replacements.
I guess Kamala, but you really don't even hear so much about her replacing him.
owen shroyer
I actually think, I think Newsom is actually a strong candidate.
I really do.
And I would, don't get me wrong.
I think Newsom is total garbage.
He's total trash.
But if you're a Democrat, if you're a liberal, Newsom is actually a very formidable choice.
unidentified
Yeah, he checks all the boxes.
He would, I will be very worried if he's running.
But anyways, man, thank you for the time.
I appreciate the insights.
owen shroyer
Do you think, do you, I think, I think, do you think Serena Williams is the greatest female athlete of all time?
I think she is.
unidentified
You know, it's like you kind of got to go back a little bit.
Like, there's, who is that one gal?
Now, she, like, as far as actual, like, athletic specimen, yeah, I would have to agree with that.
But I think there's probably some other people, like, what's her name, man?
Billie Jean Kelly.
There's some other athletes.
owen shroyer
No, Serena would mop the floor with Billie Jean King.
unidentified
I mean, I know, but I'm just saying, I'm not, well, you know, I'm not really at liberty to say because I don't really know a lot about female athletics, but I would say Serena Williams.
Yeah, let's go ahead and crown her.
She's got her flower.
She's the queen.
owen shroyer
I think she's probably, I mean, maybe you'd look at some Olympic athletes, but still, I can't think of a female that's ever dominated a sport and been an athletic specimen like Serena.
I mean, she's like superwoman.
unidentified
She's definitely the best.
I might even send you a little comparison of Michelle and Serena's back.
Because, I mean, I don't know.
I think Michelle got her.
I think Michelle got her in the back category, but we'll analyze.
owen shroyer
I'd like to analyze.
unidentified
I'll send it.
owen shroyer
All right.
All right.
Wait, where are you going to send it?
All right, set it.
He'll set it.
He'll figure it out.
See, but Serena actually looks like a woman.
You look at Serena, and that's like, oh, that's a woman.
People look at Michelle and they're like, hey, that's a dude.
Even AI thought Michelle was a dude.
I guess AI makes mistakes.
Man, y'all are asking me about my Kanye opinion.
I don't know.
I don't know if I can do it.
It's too sensitive for people.
It's too sensitive to people.
I don't know if y'all are ready for my Kanye take.
I mean, and I guess I should be fair, before I even talk about his new album, give it a listen.
I don't want to go after Ye, though.
There's no point.
There's no point.
unidentified
Oh.
owen shroyer
What's the name of Kanye's new album, anyway?
does anybody know how much What's your over-under on how much longer Kanye is married to his current wife?
How much longer, you think?
A year, two, maybe?
You guys don't think it's the real Kanye?
You think it's a different Kanye?
You think it's a clone, Kanye?
No, I believe it's this.
I believe it's probably the same guy.
Who knows who visited Infowar Studios?
I mean, he sounded like Kanye, but I don't understand the whole mask thing.
I can't tell, honestly.
I feel like I feel like Kanye's game is not understood by the masses because when he does things and he talks, I don't think he's even talking to us.
I think he's talking to people and elements that we don't know.
We don't know their names.
We don't even know they exist.
And it's like him trying to leverage whatever he knows to get back into his old life.
I don't know if I'm ready for it.
I don't know if y'all are ready for my Kanye take.
Let's take another call instead.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
jefferson in virginia
Talking to me.
owen shroyer
I'd be talking to you.
jefferson in virginia
Hey, it's Jefferson, Virginia, Owen.
owen shroyer
What's up, Jefferson?
jefferson in virginia
I'm happy to see you on late at night here in the East Coast.
You know, you're kind of trapped in Austin, aren't you?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I've got some federal travel probations on me right now.
jefferson in virginia
Well, what I'm asking you to do is your on-the-street interview skill, use it from the armored vehicle if you still have it for safety.
And I need you to go and bullhorn Ken Paxton's office up on West 14th or 15th Street and make him come out and talk to you about Kamala Harris being a Jamaican citizen at birth and why he should file a written show.
owen shroyer
I'm a Ken Paxton fan.
I like Ken Paxton.
I don't want to bullhorn Ken Paxton.
jefferson in virginia
Then call his office and see if you can get an appointment with him to discuss this issue about Kamala being ineligible to be president or vice president.
She's Jamaican at birth.
Her father was a Jamaican citizen under Jamaican international law that makes her a Jamaican citizen at birth, which means our 14th Amendment does not apply to her.
So she's not even a citizen here legally.
We have all mistaken her for a citizen and now we're racist if we bring it up.
So anyway, if you just bring it to Ken Paxton's attention, he can be the AG that brings it before the Supreme Court.
We need an attorney general to do the work for us.
We can't get a case.
We don't have standing to bring the case before the Supreme Court.
You have to have an AG do it under a public interest case.
owen shroyer
So yeah, I don't know.
If come swallow, actually, I mean, if come, if Kamala actually decided she was going to run, then I might take you up on that.
jefferson in virginia
Well, she could be president next week, and she's ineligible for both positions.
I'm saying the sooner we do this, the better.
And besides, it would be very viral video gold for you to just do this on the street interview with people at the Attorney General's office area.
There's an awful lot of lawyers there that work in that part of Austin.
They could all talk to you on the street about why do you believe that she's ineligible.
And most of them would get it wrong because academia has mistrained lawyers to think the 14th Amendment made people citizens at birth, which makes them natural-born citizens.
Just because you're a citizen at birth doesn't make you a natural-born citizen.
Naturality comes from your parents.
It's a blood issue.
If your citizen parents are naturalized citizens and you are born to them, then you get to be a natural born citizen.
But if they become citizens after your birth, like Vivek and Nikki, you're just a citizen here, but you're not a natural born citizen, even though you were born inside the country.
But everybody's been brainwashed to think I'm wrong on this topic.
You have to do an awful lot of research to find out how they're lying to us and how many legal cases were adjudicated in places like Indiana to make you believe that I'm incorrect on this matter.
owen shroyer
This has been a widely discussed issue a lot lately with Kamala and the Vaik.
And I feel like there was one other candidate where people were bringing up this issue as well.
I forget, but I've been hearing a lot of this lately, and it never really catches tread.
It feels like the rubber never really meets the road with this.
unidentified
Right.
jefferson in virginia
Well, Laura Lumer brought this up, and she was using it against Nikki, but she won't use it against Vivek.
owen shroyer
Nikki, it was right, or Nikki Rhonda, or Nick Okonda, Neiman, Neiman Marcus, whatever her name is.
jefferson in virginia
Right.
So, like I say, it never goes anywhere because nobody seems to recognize that the courts won't let you make a case without an AG that signs on to it.
So, we have to convince one of 50 AGs in the country to agree to make the case before the courts will act like it's a serious issue.
So, they put up an obstacle to ever getting this heard.
There's any number of lawyers that have tried to make this case, but they always get told they don't have any standing because they don't have an AG.
But the court won't give you that hint that you need an AG to sign on.
owen shroyer
You know what?
I'd like to take it one step further, actually.
I'd like to take it one step further.
I don't think that only natural-born citizens should serve in any form of a federal position ever.
So, or just get rid of the federal government.
We need to do one of those two things: either completely abolish the entire federal government as we know it, or you should not be allowed in the federal government unless you're a naturally born citizen.
I don't think people realize it's not, it's not just you know, everybody wants to bring up the Israel issue, and that's fair, but it's not just Israel, uh, you know, multi-staters or dual citizenship or Jewish individuals.
There's people from all over the world that are not born in this country, and they get into positions of federal power and they don't even understand our culture, they don't understand our heritage, and they're destroying our country.
It's all over the place.
jefferson in virginia
I would argue that if you're merely born here, which makes you a citizen, then the criteria age limit should be different.
So, you have to be here for 50 years before you can be in office, and you have to be a resident of the country for let's say 35 years.
Then, you can hold office if you're 50 and you've been here for 35 years.
Then, you can be in government.
owen shroyer
So, I would say, okay, so no dual citizenship at all in I mean, maybe even in Congress, but definitely no dual city.
Let me let's put it like this: any unelected position, any unelected position cannot have dual citizenship and has to be either a naturally born American citizen or lived here for 50 years, is what you're saying.
jefferson in virginia
Well, it depends what your definition of naturally born is, but I'm just saying native born is a category in the 14th Amendment, which says it's when you're when you have parents that aren't citizens, but you're born here, you're a citizen automatically.
But but that's through naturalization by birthplace.
People don't seem to understand this.
Not all people that are naturalized here have to take a test, so people think, oh, naturalization only applies to people that are born outside the country and then have to come in and want to be a citizen, and then they have to issue.
owen shroyer
I mean, that's the problem.
jefferson in virginia
I agree, but it's certainly not that hard for people to understand that there's a difference between someone that's merely born here to non-citizens and people that are reared by two parents that are citizens.
If both of your parents are citizens, which I assume they are, they had a greater influence over your allegiance to the United States than you would have if one of your citizens, one of your parents were a European.
You'd have grown up in a cultural setting that was different because you'd have a bifurcated allegiance.
You'd have two allegiances, one to Europe and one to the United States.
And your parents might go through a divorce or something, and one of them has more influence over you than the other.
So I'm just saying the founders recognized this was going to be a problem.
So they set a high standard for the presidency saying, if both of your parents aren't citizens, which at the time that they wrote that rule, 99% of all people born at that time were born to two citizens.
It wasn't very restrictive or exclusive at that time, but they knew over time when we had more and more people coming to the country that we would have children born to people that only had one parent that was a citizen and another one that was an immigrant.
So they said, well, we don't want that to be the people that get to be president.
So they set a standard high enough that only purebred American citizens would be eligible.
And that was well understood until about 240 years went by.
And then suddenly, you know, people started showing up on the scene like Ted Cruz.
And people said, well, his mother was a citizen.
I know he was born in Canada, but we're still going to call him a natural born citizen anyway.
I'm going, that makes zero sense, doesn't it?
owen shroyer
Yeah, now I even remember that case when Ted Cruz was running as well.
Yeah, it's a very wonky thing.
And I think that's why people don't like to talk about it or discuss it.
I think really, though, it's probably an issue that needs to be sat down and had and it needs to be sorted out and some precedents need to be set, but they're already on the books is my understanding.
jefferson in virginia
Well, I mean, people will tell you this has already been litigated and it has, but no court has jurisdiction over this except for the Supreme Court.
And I keep saying the Supreme Court refuses to hear the cases because they say they don't have standing to change the current misinterpretation that's been provided by the cases in the lower courts.
There's a case in Indiana, which is an appeals court case called Ankeny, where people were challenging whether the governor of Indiana could allow Barack Obama to be on the ballot.
And they thought the governor was derelict in his duties by allowing Barack Obama to be on the ballot, but they didn't win the case because the judge basically said, we're going to ignore the wording of the Wong Kim Ark ruling, which said that Wong Kim Ark, even though he was born here as a Chinese man, he was still a citizen.
So you couldn't deny him citizenship, even though there was an act against the Chinese being citizens here.
But I'm just saying it gets down in the weeds and wonkish, but it's a very simple concept that three words are supposed to define who can be president, natural-born citizen.
If I call you a natural born genius, who am I complimenting?
owen shroyer
My parents.
jefferson in virginia
Yes, and you.
owen shroyer
So define that.
So that means both of your parents were born in the United States and you were born in the United States.
jefferson in virginia
No, no, no, no, no.
No, your parents don't have to be born here.
They just have to be citizens at the time of your birth.
So two naturalized citizens from Kenya can come here and get together and form a natural born citizen.
They aren't natural born citizens.
They're naturalized.
So this isn't a requirement that your birth, your bloodline go all the way back to the founding.
People always act like that.
This is what Robert Barnes was saying with Viva Fry in their episode 169 when they got together and were discussing this issue.
And Barnes got it completely wrong, what my position is.
So he was saying, so it's basically accepted by everybody in the legal community that natural born just means citizen at birth.
And everybody believes that because there's a bias, there's a confirmation bias built into almost all of us that we're all equal if we're all citizens at birth.
And that's just not true.
There are natural citizens who have only one U.S. citizen parent.
There are natural born citizens who have two USA citizen parents.
And there are native born citizens who have zero U.S. citizen parents, but they were born here, like Nikki or Vivek.
And they've been convinced because they were citizens at birth, which is actually, that's a fake idea in the first place.
Nobody's a citizen at birth.
It's all retroactive.
The government doesn't even know you exist at birth.
The paperwork has to be on file before you become a citizen.
And that doesn't happen for 48 hours.
owen shroyer
And you don't even have to file that paperwork, by the way.
jefferson in virginia
Well, I'm just saying, they take your blood and they put it in a database, but it's just.
unidentified
That's all optional.
jefferson in virginia
Right.
But somebody's going to have to file an affidavit at some point that they're your parents and you're a citizen by blood or by birth.
But again, people always want to talk about whether you're a citizen at birth or by birth.
And I'm saying Jamaica has a claim on Kamala.
See, some countries like Switzerland or Jamaica, they don't care where you're born.
If your parents are one of them, then you are one of them by blood.
And this is the strange case with Kamala that nobody ever talks about the fact that her father was still a Jamaican citizen, never wanted to become a U.S. citizen, much like Vivek's father never wanted to become a U.S. citizen.
Right?
owen shroyer
So I would say we would agree then that you have to be, I'm getting the terminology here wrong.
I apologize, but you have to be a naturally born citizen to be president of the United States.
And I would say, but I would also say you have to be, I think you should be a naturally born citizen to serve in any position in the federal government that is not elected.
You cannot appoint, you cannot appoint a foreigner.
You cannot appoint someone with dual citizenship.
jefferson in virginia
Right.
Like, like, well, look how many, like Majorkis is a clear example of somebody that should not be the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
owen shroyer
Well, under those, if you didn't have, if you were not allowed dual citizenship to be in unelected appointed positions, then 90% of the Biden administration would be gone tomorrow.
jefferson in virginia
Yeah, elected or unelected doesn't matter to me.
I'm just saying if you're appointed by an elected official and you're not a natural citizen.
owen shroyer
See, I would argue that it does matter because this is what we're seeing with all these people on the Israeli issue.
They see all these dual citizenship Jews in unelected positions.
And so you sit here and say, well, look, the president is a Catholic or he claims to be Catholic.
The president is a Catholic.
All these presidents are Catholics or Christians.
But then they look at the administration and it's all Jews.
It's all dual citizens from Israel.
And so they say, see, Israel controls everything.
So it's like you eliminate that immediately.
You eliminate this ability, whether you believe this theory of thought or not.
You eliminate this threat for a foreign country to come into an administration unelected and control the president of the United States, control policy, control the ability to, I mean, run or pursue political targets.
And so, I mean, to me, it needs to be done.
Really, it's kind of, I would say it's an existential issue.
jefferson in virginia
Right.
I agree with that.
But, you know, almost the entire public health sector is full of all these dual citizen Jews that are polluting the public health sector with all this vaccine propaganda.
And it's, you know, somehow they're not giving the shots to themselves or their own family or their staffs at the CDC.
You know, Walensky never answered the question ever about how many of her staff of 35,000 employees were vaccinated.
You know, it's just galling what they get away with.
But Majorkis is what, a naturalized citizen here.
When his parents came from Cuba and naturalized, he got naturalized by their naturalization.
He didn't have to take a test.
He just became a naturalized citizen.
And that's part of the problem that these people are sort of infiltrating our system.
And we don't draw the line anywhere because we don't recognize the threat or see that there's a problem.
We've been all miseducated.
So at the moment, if two illegals sneak into the country and they give birth to a child, you're thinking that anchor baby is somehow a natural born citizen when it's an alien invader.
You can't really hold it against the kid, but you don't have to make him eligible to be president.
You can say, all right, well, you get to be a probationary citizen if your parents live right while they're here and don't get you in trouble.
Because essentially, it seems harsh, but we're just sort of.
owen shroyer
You know, for whatever reason, I'm kind of, it's not that I support anchor babies because I would say that even if you come here to have a kid, that doesn't protect you.
If you're an illegal immigrant and you come here and you have a kid, part of me says the kid's an American.
I'm not going to lie.
Part of me says, nope, that kid's born here.
That's an American.
Because what else would the kid be?
But the parents are still illegal immigrants, and that doesn't protect them.
So they can still be deported.
They can still be arrested.
And then they can decide, are you going to take your kid home with you?
Or are you going to leave your kid here in a foster home or whatever?
But I'm kind of, I might be in the minority in our political wing here, but I think if the kid's born here, it's an American citizen.
jefferson in virginia
Well, I'll give you that.
That's the humane way to look at it.
But of course, the child doesn't really become a full-fledged citizen until it reaches the age of 18.
And I think in that timeframe, it can petition wherever its parents were from and say, I'd like to be a citizen back in Guatemala or Mexico or wherever they came from.
And they probably would be accepted by their home country, even though they didn't, where they weren't born there.
But we've all been sort of sold on this notion that location of birth is more important than who your parents are.
And that's why we've sort of fallen into this trap where we've got all kinds of people running and everybody acts like, well, they wouldn't get to run if they weren't eligible.
And I'm going, that's circular logic being used there that they know they're getting away with the fact that the courts won't make a ruling in this issue.
They set up obstacles to anybody challenging this mindset that we have that being a natural born citizen doesn't matter anymore.
They just figured they could get away with amending Article II by just all agreeing that it doesn't mean what it means.
And it's working.
We've all been so indoctrinated to believe that born in the USA is all that matters that nobody even vets these people anymore.
You're a racist if you even think.
owen shroyer
Well, as far as we know, I mean, the biggest issue to ever hit the White House, as far as this issue is concerned, would be Obama.
I mean, was Obama an illegitimate president?
unidentified
Well, it depends who you believe his father was, right?
jefferson in virginia
I mean, just because someone says that Barack Obama Sr. was the father doesn't prove that he's a biological father.
Ann Dunham could have very easily had sex with any number of different men in Hawaii.
And just she blamed the Kenyan because she knew he was short-lived to be here.
They didn't seem to have much of a loving relationship and got divorced very quickly.
Maybe he was just a convenient sort of fall guy when he was hoping to become a more permanent resident here.
But anyway, it's an interesting discussion.
But at the very least, Barack Obama would be a natural citizen because his mother was a USA citizen.
Whether he's a natural born citizen comes down to whether you believe that Frank Marshall Davis was actually his father, but isn't it?
owen shroyer
Joel Gilbert, Joel Gilbert, has done a pretty convincing documentary on that issue.
jefferson in virginia
Yeah, there's a number of journalists that have basically said that if we look into Obama's history, there's all kinds of things that are suspect.
But if people found out later in life that he was on paper, not a natural born citizen, but in reality was one, then they knew they had a sort of a Trojan horse to attack the natural born citizen standard because people would say, well, you're just a racist for saying that he's not eligible.
He was born to an American citizen mother.
And the argument there is, well, if he was born in Kenya, his mother was too young at the time to convey natural citizenship to him.
And the Kenyan was a British subject, so he'd be British.
And that's if you believe that Obama Sr. was the father biologically.
There's lots of evidence that that's just not the case.
I mean, if you look at a picture of Frank Marshall Davis and Barack Obama side by side, you go, wow, he does look, he's got exactly the same upper lip.
He's got the same sort of marks on his face.
He's got the light complexion.
There's enormous similarity between Frank Marshall Davis.
owen shroyer
And of course, there's always the angle that Obama was a CIA cutout as well.
jefferson in virginia
Well, yeah, when they went to Indonesia and he grew up in a madrasas or whatever it is, he went to a Muslim school.
But yeah, everything about Obama is strange.
But whether he's a natural born citizen, I actually think he is a natural born citizen.
They just looked at him as a perfect opportunity to create the whole birther controversy.
In other words, that was a big psyop about where was he born?
Was he born in Kenya?
Was he born in Hawaii?
Is his birth certificate real or not?
And that was all to get people to focus on the wrong thing, which was not who is his father in reality, but where was he born?
Because they wanted people to think that where you're born is all that matters, right?
That's all anybody says anymore.
If you say, I don't think that person's eligible, they go, well, where was he born?
That's the first question they always ask.
And I'm going, that's because you equate citizen at birth with natural born citizen.
And that's what they trained you to believe.
owen shroyer
All right, here's the question.
And we're about to go to the photo evidence.
Michelle Obama, man or female, man or woman.
jefferson in virginia
Michelle Obama has ambiguous genitalia.
She's not the mother of the daughter.
owen shroyer
Genitalia ambiguous.
jefferson in virginia
Right.
She's not an actual natural mother to the daughters.
The daughters are the Nesbitt Blanchard children.
owen shroyer
Nobody has seen Michelle Obama pregnant.
That is true.
Would you be willing to do a personal inspection and figure it out for us?
jefferson in virginia
Well, I mean, you know, how close do I have to get?
owen shroyer
You're going to have to go down on that.
jefferson in virginia
I wrote in the chat, they're going to jam Michelle's big mic right down our throats.
That's what they're going to do.
owen shroyer
So you think it's going to be Michelle?
You think it's going to be Big Mike?
jefferson in virginia
I think they're going to have to knock Joe out after he signs us onto the Hoo Tree.
I told you this already.
And then they're going to let Kamala be president briefly.
And then they're going to offer her some other position or buy her off or use the eligibility issue against her to get rid of her.
So I'm not.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I think it was.
I think it was Jimmy Carter who predicted the first female president would come in via the current sitting president getting removed or dying.
I believe that was Jimmy Carter that predicted that.
jefferson in virginia
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, I think everybody figured out that you could elect a female vice president and she might inadvertently rise up to be president.
And that's the most likely way it's going to happen because we're all so sloppy intellectually when it comes to picking the vice president.
We never seem to recognize that, you know, the guy we elected might be gone the day after inauguration.
owen shroyer
Well, we don't pick the vice president.
That was not, the system was intended that the vice president used to be the runner-up to the president.
And then that got switched, and that needs to go back.
Well, I don't know if it needs to go back, but that originally the runner-up to the president was the vice president.
Now the president chooses their own vice president.
jefferson in virginia
Yeah, well, the party sort of picks at the convention who's going to be, I mean, you know, who's it?
Dick Cheney picked himself to be vice president.
Remember that?
He was on the committee to find the vice president for W, and he told W, well, it's going to be me.
There's nobody else.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
jefferson in virginia
And then they told Reagan that Herbert Walker Bush was going to be his vice president or else.
owen shroyer
Well, just don't give us Ron or Romney.
That'll be painful.
Hey, Jefferson, good catching up tonight.
jefferson in virginia
Good call.
All right.
Nice show.
Thanks.
owen shroyer
I'm glad you finally called in here.
It's good to get an extended call with you.
All right.
We're going to keep taking more phone calls here.
But first, we're going to play a little game.
Now, you might know, you might not, but just don't give it away in the chats, or you can have fun and guessing the chats.
But we're going to play a little game now.
Michelle Obama or Serena Williams.
Michelle Obama or Serena Williams.
You have to decide.
Let's flash image number one.
Okay.
Everybody sees the image.
Get a good look.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
Michelle Obama or Serena Williams.
All right.
Now we're going to go to Hibbing number two.
Michelle Obama or Serena Williams.
Michelle Obama or Serena Williams.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
So there you go.
What do you guys think?
That's Serena Williams.
Probably the greatest female athlete of all time.
And you notice that even though she's very strong and built, she still looks like a woman from behind.
unidentified
And then, and then you go to Big Mike.
I mean, my God.
owen shroyer
I mean, look at those broad shoulders.
I mean, that's a damn linebacker.
So her shoulders are more built and more broad than the greatest female athlete of all time, Serena Williams.
And Michelle is relaxed in that photo.
Whereas Serena is here lifting her arms.
And there's no, you don't have near the bulge.
You don't have near the definition.
You don't have near the girth as you do with Big Buck.
unidentified
I mean, that is some thick.
Oh, my God.
owen shroyer
Let's take another call for the love of God.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you're from?
unidentified
Hi, Owen.
This is Cushy Kale from Arizona.
owen shroyer
Wow.
You're still tuned in.
You're still calling in, even though you made egregious insults to my character and egregious insults to my credibility.
unidentified
Look, we have been under psychological warfare for four years.
It is very hard at this point to trust anyone.
owen shroyer
Speak for yourself.
unidentified
I guess.
But hey, I'm here and I'm willing and I'm.
owen shroyer
Do you really, you know, I understand where you're coming from.
Believe me, I get it.
And in fact, I do.
I do.
And in fact, and in fact, there may have even been a point in my life when I first will say took the red pill where I didn't want to trust anybody either.
Nobody.
But do you really want to live your life like that?
Do you really want to live your life where nobody can be trusted and there's never going to be a good guy?
There's never going to be anybody organic ever.
Do you really want to live your life like that?
unidentified
Well, we have to understand, Owen, like I just said, it's been four years.
owen shroyer
You're not answering the question.
Is that how you want to live your life?
unidentified
No, I love Alex.
I love you.
I love you guys.
I love Harrison and I support you guys.
I've listened to you for so long.
I don't want to think that about you guys at all.
owen shroyer
And why would you?
unidentified
Like, I don't.
owen shroyer
And the only reason why you would is because you're in a state of mind where you refuse to trust anybody.
unidentified
Well, can I explain myself?
Go ahead.
We've been under like exuberant amount of torture, like psychological, financial, warfare, this invasion.
And I get it.
We wanted to talk about this upcoming, you know, election, but how can we even talk about this upcoming election when you were just incarcerated for saying the past election was rigged?
So how can we move on and think of what's going to happen in the coming months when we can't even all get on the same page that 2020 was stolen from us and that Donald Trump should be our president right now?
And I feel like America is held hostage and we are being invaded for what reason?
I think we have an idea.
So I don't know, Owen.
owen shroyer
So how about this?
So consider America occupied or worse.
So do you give up?
unidentified
No, you don't give up.
And that's why, I mean, what more can we take?
Like, I don't understand why if there are so many of us and we know that we are an army ourselves, you know, with our Second Amendment rights, why are we not doing anything?
Why are we the bad guys when we want to react and defend ourselves?
All of a sudden, we're cornered as terrorists or anti-Semites.
owen shroyer
Well, there's three answers.
There's three answers to your question.
Most people don't do anything because they still have it too good.
They still have it better here than anywhere else in the world.
Two, we still get the bread and circus.
Okay.
So the bread and circus goes on.
You notice they talk about stopping man-made climate change and carbon emissions all day long, but they don't talk about the Super Bowl.
They don't talk about the concert tours because it's part of your bread and circus.
unidentified
And then three and fill the damn stadium up.
owen shroyer
And then three, because they see the people that do fight get punished for it.
unidentified
Right.
And it scares others.
owen shroyer
Well, you know what?
Look, the fight for freedom was not always built for everybody.
It's always been that way.
Only 3% of the original colonists decided they wanted to fight for freedom.
And so even then, when it seems so obvious to us now in history, of course you would fight against the British and King George to create America the greatest country in the world.
But it wasn't even so obvious back then.
So it's not, it's not for everybody.
Some people intellectually can't even see it or understand it.
And then some people don't have the content of character to stand up and do what's right.
unidentified
Well, I'm sick of this shit and I'm ready to fight.
And I pray that the rest of us, this 3% or however many there are of us, like what more can we take?
What are we waiting for?
Like enough has happened.
Enough people are dying.
Children are suffering.
Like all of this shit, it's sickening.
This is not the life God intended for us to live, Owen.
We should be loving each other and bartering and getting back to our roots and being grounded and appreciating this earth that was created.
We, like you said, are occupied by this evil, satanic corrosion that is just destroying everything that God gave us.
owen shroyer
I feel like you just need to release.
unidentified
I have one more question.
Well, I didn't even really ask you a question.
Are you why are all the bots and the trolls in the rumble room telling me you're married?
Are you married?
owen shroyer
I don't like to talk about my personal life.
unidentified
That's fine.
Are you married?
owen shroyer
You know, there is this crazy thing.
There's all crazy internet rumors out there about me, and like none of them are true.
And the craziest one has to be the craziest one.
The craziest one has to be that I'm married to, or I was married.
I guess I wouldn't be married to a dead woman, but I was married to a woman named Autumn Klein, and that I guess I killed her.
And so then I guess the theory would be that I'm controlled because I murdered my ex-wife or something.
I've never been married.
I've never met Autumn Klein.
I don't even know how I got tied up into that conspiracy theory.
There was a while where people believed that I was, oh, what's the guy's name?
He's actually a left-wing commentator, but people thought that face from January 6th that they said was you?
No, me and the, me and Jake Chansley actually do kind of look alike.
It's probably just because we have similar beards.
So Andrew, Andrew.
unidentified
You're good looking.
You're crazy.
What are you talking about?
owen shroyer
But some of those pictures, though, people thought it was me.
But Andrew Englin is the guy's name.
And he's a big left-wing activist protester.
And when I first entered the scene, people thought I was Andrew Englin.
So there's all kinds of crazy conspiracy.
Look, I know that you have trust issues, and that's fine.
You don't have to trust me.
It's not a healthy state of mind, but whatever.
I get it.
I understand.
It's like, you know, it's a damaged person.
I'm not insulting you, but I get it.
You're under attack all the time psychologically.
I am as organic as it gets.
So that's it.
I have, I mean, it's like I'm still friends with the people I grew up with next door to me.
I've still been friends with the same people.
I'm 34 years old.
I still am friends with the same people for 34 years.
I still talk to my grade school friends.
I still talk to my high school friends.
I still talk to the people I came up in media with when I'm, when I'm 19, 20.
I still talk to some of my teachers and professors.
So it's like, it's just, it's just hilarious.
And I get it.
Nobody can believe anybody's real.
Nobody can believe anybody's organic.
Whatever.
It's fine.
I know, I know I am.
I think I've done enough.
unidentified
Can I be honest?
Can I be honest with you why I it's not based on what you've done.
I hope you know that.
Like you personally haven't done anything.
owen shroyer
I think we lost her.
unidentified
You're working with Alex because I don't like the way he treats some of his guests and how he cuts them off and doesn't let him say certain things and the way he just treated David Ike.
Like I'm not saying it's you, Owen.
I'm just saying you're associated with that.
I just hope you want that.
And Harrison has expressed himself too that he's allowed to say what he wants.
Like Alex has said, like, don't bite your tongue.
Like, say, say, you know, whatever it is you need to say.
owen shroyer
Well, you know, I'm not here to speak for Alex Jones, but I will tell you, he is also real.
He's not controlled by anybody.
He's not perfect.
He has a lot of personal issues.
Sometimes he brings it up on the air.
But I've never been censored by Alex.
I've gotten along great with Alex.
There's been times when me and Alex have maybe even not seen eye to eye.
I mean, when you work together in a high velocity, high impact environment like that, it's natural.
But trust me, Alex is organic.
Alex is the real deal.
Alex is not controlled by any entities or anybody.
He might not be the best interviewer at times, but that's a different issue.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
And then it's my job and my duty to honor that and trust you and, you know, support you.
And that's what I'm doing.
And that's your honor.
owen shroyer
That's your duty.
Have you sworn an oath?
unidentified
Well, I, you guys are our fighters.
You have the platform and the ability to reach a lot of people.
So I'm going to stand by your side.
Absolutely.
I'm ready to fight with you, Owen.
You have no idea who I am.
I'm ready to get down, dude.
owen shroyer
Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
I'm serious.
Because, okay, let's be real for just a couple more minutes.
I know you've got other people, but how, like, we have to really, really think about this, Owen.
What is 2424 looking like already?
And we're only in barely the second month.
I don't know.
Like, you got to get, we all have to just get ready for what the hell this year is going to bring because obviously there's a lot in the air.
And do you believe in God?
Of course, I believe in God.
He's in control.
owen shroyer
There you go.
unidentified
I like that simulation idea that Elon was trying to say that I don't like that.
I really do believe no matter what, God is in control.
We are protecting people.
Well, but think about it.
Think about it in my life that God has proven that.
owen shroyer
So, but okay.
So are we not then in God's simulation?
unidentified
I don't, I believe we have free will.
God created us to, you know, make our choice.
I believe we have two choices in this lifetime.
We either choose God or we walk with the other, the other, you know, the other path.
I really do believe that.
I believe, I don't want to call this life a test, but I want to say that I believe the reason why God gave us this free will is to find him again.
Because it's like we were given this life to find our path.
What do we love?
owen shroyer
What do we do?
I think the fine difference between somebody that would consider themselves a simulationist versus a creationalist, which is what I would consider myself.
I believe in God, is that we creationalists believe there is such a thing as a moral compass and a moral consciousness.
And therefore, there is some form of an afterlife where you're either rewarded or punished for the way you live your life.
Whereas a simulationist doesn't believe in anything spiritual or anything beyond the dimension that we are currently in or anything beyond your life on planet Earth.
And that's why they're obsessed with trying to live forever.
Whereas the creationist accepts death.
unidentified
Right.
And you know what I have to say to them?
The reason why they don't believe in anything after is because they don't believe in themselves.
Because in order to believe in God and have that connection with God, you have to believe in yourself first because God is within.
owen shroyer
All right.
Final question.
Michelle Obama, man or woman.
unidentified
Oh, they're fucking men.
Those two both are big ass black men.
owen shroyer
Serena?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
Look at that.
owen shroyer
Nah, I don't think so.
All right.
I'm glad you called.
That was probably healthy for you.
I hope you call back.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
Final caller of the night.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
albert in pennsylvania
Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
owen shroyer
Hey, our final caller of the night.
Glad you got in.
albert in pennsylvania
Oh, hey, thanks, Owen.
First of all, got the new gear on order.
Can't wait to get it in.
I think it's supposed to come in the end of the week here.
And really looking forward to the Clown War gear, the Clown World gear.
It reminds me of the OG Info War shirt from a few years ago.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and I still have that one.
And man, people loved that shirt.
So I had to bring it back.
albert in pennsylvania
Oh, no, absolutely.
It was one of my favorites, that along with the Free American one that you kind of did a version of there, too, with your first draw.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
albert in pennsylvania
But no, I just wanted to call in.
Just, you know, like, I know you being a sports and that.
I just kind of wanted to get your take on some of the, I don't know, woke messaging in the Super Bowl last night or, you know, just kind of your whole general take on that.
owen shroyer
You know, I didn't really see too much of it.
I hosted the Joan show and then I went to the gym.
And then after I after I got home, I had dinner.
I kind of had it on my TV, but I didn't have the volume on.
And then I went to, I went out and I watched the game with some friends.
So then I was just catching up with some friends and talking and I didn't really see or hear too much.
But I heard enough to realize, and this is how I put it, is that the Super Bowl went from a football game to a football game and a celebration of football to a football game with propaganda during the breaks to a propaganda event with football in between it.
And that's where the Super Bowl is now.
It's a propaganda event with football in between it.
It's for me as a football fan, it's my least favorite game of the year.
Quite frankly, it's the only week where I could care less if I even watch any football at all.
I prefer the regular season to anything.
The playoffs are nice, but I can't stand even the commercials during the playoffs.
So the Super Bowl is my least favorite game of the year.
Can't stand it.
albert in pennsylvania
No, I totally agree, Owen.
And for me, it just doesn't hit the same.
You know, it was funny.
Like I was just watching, you know, some highlights and replays of some of, you know, the more classic games that I remember, like from when I was a kid, like the first one that the Stillers were in when I was a kid in the 90s or when the Broncos were dominant there in the late 90s.
And it just seemed to me like it was just football and it was just fun, you know?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I went back.
I think I talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
I went back and I watched the Rams Vikings game from Division Weekend 1999.
It might have been 2000, but you just nailed it.
It was football.
It was about football.
The only women that were anywhere near the field or the broadcast booth were the cheerleaders where they belong.
There were no sideline reporter women all caked up in makeup running around.
There were no female ball girls or water girls or coaches or referees.
It was a man's game meant for men, and it was football.
Now it's got diversity and equity and inclusion and women on the field.
I mean, I can't even imagine.
I mean, if you're making millions of dollars playing football, you're not going to complain.
But I mean, my God, if I'm in a football game and I got to turn around and there's a damn female referee or a damn woman trying to give me water, bag, bitch, get out of my way.
albert in pennsylvania
No, absolutely, Owen.
I couldn't agree more.
You know, and that's why for me, you know, honestly, like, it's just pretty much background noise to me anymore as to where like it used to be like, you know, I was hanging on every play.
And, you know, some people I know kind of like the sideline reporters or whatever because they think they're hot or whatever.
But for me, I mean, I go somewhere else to look at hot women.
I don't watch football for that.
You know what I mean?
I just want to see football.
And, no, that was just pretty much all I wanted to do was get your take on that.
And been enjoying the show, Owen.
And thanks for taking my call again.
owen shroyer
All right.
So you said you ordered the Clown World shirt.
You got one coming in, you said?
albert in pennsylvania
Yep, yep, yep.
I think I checked the tracking.
It's supposed to be in on Friday, I think.
owen shroyer
Which color did you go with?
albert in pennsylvania
I got the royal blue, and I got a couple of different colors.
I think I got a red and like a darker gray, like a heathered gray or something like that.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I think I like the red or the blue best myself.
albert in pennsylvania
Yeah, yeah, I always like to go with the with the brighter colors.
I don't know.
For me, it makes the logos thick out more, you know.
owen shroyer
Well, I really liked the new drops of merchandise we have at Owensroyer.store.
I'm glad you do too.
The Clown World might be my favorite.
I haven't looked at the numbers.
I think it might be top selling, but I'll just go ahead and let you know that we've already got, so this is basically going to be the winter, spring clown world shirt.
We're going to have a new one for summer.
So there will be a second clown world shirt for summer, too.
albert in pennsylvania
Oh, I can't wait for that one, Owen.
I can't wait for that one.
And no, absolutely.
I'm happy to, you know, not only get some cool gear, but to support you along the way as well.
owen shroyer
All right, man.
Appreciate that.
Always good to hear from you, have you in the chats.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's going to do it for tonight.
Here's what we're going to do.
Instead of doing our normal rock and roll music out, I'm going to show you what is the greatest Super Bowl halftime show ever.
That's Michael Jackson, 1993.
Your opinion is wrong.
My opinion is right.
We sign off for the night.
Thanks to everybody for signing in and being on with us tonight.
I'll be back on the InfoWars War Room tomorrow, 3 p.m.
Central.
But we're going to conclude tonight's broadcast.
And as soon as Michael Jackson starts singing and the music hits, you know what I need?
I need your dancing emojis.
I need your dancing emojis in the chat.
You're going to have to be patient because Michael Jackson is going to toy with your mind a little bit here before he starts singing.
But once you see him go off and I tell you to hit the dancing memes in the chat, you know it's time, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's go out and watch the best Super Bowl halftime show of all time, Michael Jackson, 1993.
unidentified
Don't
owen shroyer
even say Prince.
Not even close.
All right, let's get it.
Give me the dance emojis, fire them away.
Everybody in the chat, send the dance emojis.
unidentified
I'm in the side.
But it can't come from my daughter.
I'm feeling miracles.
And I'm here before they tonight.
Don't do that.
I've got things down by inside.
And I care about the darkness.
And if you need a rock on your mind, baby, it don't matter if you're black or bad.
We'll be right back.
You agree with me.
When I see you, get your in my eyes.
I need to think of my baby.
It don't matter if you're black or bad.
Be my brother.
It don't matter if you're black or white.
Alright, I think your neck is fighting.
It's stuck.
We can't get back.
It's fighting cold.
Your neck is striking.
It's stuck.
Be careful.
It's back.
to the children of the world.
Make a melody just to melt just to day.
We're standing together all around the world, joined in a common purpose to remake the planet into a haven of joy and understanding and goodness.
No one should have to suffer, especially our children.
This time we must succeed.
This is for the children of the world.
There's a place in your heart, and I know that it is love.
And the place be much brighter than tomorrow.
And if you really try, you'll find there's no need to cry.
In a place where there's no hurt or sorrow, there are ways to get there.
If you care enough for the living, make a little space.
Make a better place to the world.
Make it a better place for you and for me.
And the inside you've been race whereby people die.
If you care enough for the living, make a better place for you and for me Oh high, let our spirits never die.
In my heart, I feel you are all my brothers.
Create a world with no fear.
Together we'll cry happy tears.
See the nations turn their swords into flushes.
We could really get there if you get enough for the living.
Make a little space to make a better place.
Feel for her, make it a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.
There are people dying.
If you care enough for the living, make a better place for you and for me.
Fear the world, make it a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.
There are high enough for the living.
Make a better place for you and for me.
Fear the world, make it a better place for you and for me and the entire human place.
There are enough for the living.
Better place for you and for me.
There are dying, feeling up for the living.
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