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OSL 48 - Breaking: Trump Wins Iowa Caucus; Results Coverage Live

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	Well, they've already called it.
	They've already called it, folks.
	Pretty much immediately once the caucus started, they called it for Donald Trump.
	Boy, talk about a change of pace.
	Usually, they would never want to admit Trump won anything.
	But they admit Trump won this as soon as it started.
	Surprising no one.
	But the results are incoming, and they're already discounting V-Vake.
	I guess that's not surprising, ladies and gentlemen.
	We are live here.
	Owen Schroer live episode 48.
	Trump wins the Iowa caucus, and we will monitor the results, see who comes in second.
	Right now, it appears it's going to be DeSantis.
	It's unfortunate Ramaswamy is going to struggle to crack double digits, but we'll talk about that in a second.
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	All right.
	So they announced the victory for Trump immediately.
	And I don't think anybody was surprised by the result.
	Perhaps surprised that they're willing to admit that Trump won so soon.
	When, of course, we know that in 2020 they didn't want Trump to win.
	They announced Arizona for Biden, even though it was way too early.
	They refused to announce Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, or North Carolina for Trump, even though he was winning all day long, as if they were waiting for something to happen.
	And then something did happen, didn't it?
	But we're not here to talk about history.
	Thank you, AIM316, as always, for your participation and your rumble rants.
	Glad to be back.
	Glad to be back and have you here with me tonight.
	All right.
	We're going to be monitoring these results live.
	We've got the coverage here that we'll be monitoring.
	But immediately they called it every major news publication called it for Donald Trump immediately after the counting began.
	As of right now, it looks like Trump is going to get the simple majority.
	And then DeSantis and Haley fighting each for about 20%.
	And then Vivek pulling behind them, which is upsetting.
	Now, the results aren't fully in yet, but we do have some early returns that we can check out as far as the breakdown is concerned.
	But boy, oh boy, they really don't even want you to know about Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Most of the major polling results didn't even include him in the results.
	So like, I actually had to expand this.
	They didn't even have him on here.
	You have to hit this to even look at Ramaswamy.
	But we'll look at these counties.
	We'll look at the breakdowns here by different groups, age, gender, everything else that they will have for us live.
	But you may have noticed this odd trend happening.
	And really, so far, what I've seen from the 2024 election process is that many of Trump's supporters have become a bit cultish.
	And we know that the left and even establishment conservatives and Republicans have always wanted to push that narrative that Trump supporters are in this cult and that it's dangerous and all this stuff.
	And it's never really been true.
	But unfortunately, it's starting to become true in 2024.
	Now, obviously, I'm not a part of that cult.
	I criticize Donald Trump when it's warranted and I support him when it's warranted.
	But I've noticed that specifically when it comes to Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign, people saying he's controlled opposition.
	He's the conservative Obama, all this stuff.
	And hey, that's all fair.
	That's all fair as far as political commentary is concerned.
	But the vicious attacks and the vicious assumptions that are being made to anybody that says anything positive about Vivek Ramaswamy is concerning to me.
	We should be supporting Vivek Ramaswamy, and we should be intellectual and sophisticated enough politically to understand that in this go-around, Vivek Ramaswamy is not a threat to Donald Trump.
	He's not going to beat Donald Trump in the primaries.
	But Vivek's message is extremely important.
	Vivek's ability to bring in the youth vote to the Republican Party is also very important.
	And I think we're going to see that play out in the data tonight.
	And with the early returns, I've already seen this.
	Now, I've said this since day one.
	And anybody who follows my daily show or this Monday night show knows that I have said this since the beginning.
	I like Vivek.
	I think he has the most important campaign right now, but my vote is still for Donald Trump.
	I want to see Vivek earn more political capital.
	I'd like to see Donald Trump give Vivek a shot in his administration to earn that political capital and put him in charge of draining the swamp, if you will.
	A special committee to drain the swamper, put him in charge of a position to just abolish all of these federal bureaucracies that Vivek has been lambasting and attacking viciously, and rightfully so since he started his campaign.
	Now, that's been my stance since day one, but Vivek's rhetoric is better than Donald Trump's when it comes to this issue.
	And Vivek is drawing in the youth vote to the Republican Party in lasting ways in which no other candidate has done.
	And people say, oh, he was part of this.
	He was part of that.
	Okay.
	He addressed the Soros issue.
	He addressed the World Economic Forum issue.
	And he sued to be removed from any of their publications.
	And he made public statements about it.
	Now, I'm as cynical as the next person.
	And it is perfectly reasonable to be concerned about that.
	And it is perfectly acceptable to call that out.
	But he has addressed it.
	And I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to accept Vivek Ramaswamy as a young man chasing his American dream, taking a scholarship from the Soros Institute, getting involved in big pharma, making a bunch of money, and getting invited to World Economic Forum events.
	Of course.
	But see, if you're going to jump to those conclusions about Vivek Ramaswamy, then you better jump to those same conclusions about Donald Trump when he's pictured with Jeffrey Epstein.
	Or have you made sophisticated reasoning that, oh, okay, Donald Trump's a billionaire playboy.
	I'm not surprised he was around Jeffrey Epstein.
	So you see, what we have here is people's reactionary bias contorting their philosophical and logical foundations.
	There are plenty of reasons why we could throw Trump under the bus and be done with him.
	There are plenty of reasons why you could say the same thing with Vivek Ramaswamy.
	This is why I preach against political purism, because it's a cancer in any political movement, and it's a death sentence to any political movement.
	It's a terminal illness.
	And when you become political purists, you turn into a cult.
	That's what happens.
	And that's starting to become the case with a lot of these Trump supporters.
	Why can't I like Vivek Ramaswamy and Donald Trump?
	Because you're an occult.
	If you can't understand the basic, not even sophisticated political ideology to say, I like Trump and Vivek Ramaswamy, then you're entering a cult-like mindset that is very dangerous.
	And it's becoming a point where you won't even be able to criticize Donald Trump because you think he can do no wrong.
	And plenty of people will even take what I'm saying here and jump to conclusions and reach and take things I'm saying out of context.
	But if you don't understand the importance of Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign and you don't understand the importance of Vivek finishing ahead of DeSantis or Haley, then you're just not that politically sophisticated.
	I'm sorry to tell you.
	Vivek Ramaswamy might be a snake.
	I don't believe that.
	But even if that ends up being the case, we're not there yet.
	We're in the time where Vivek Ramaswamy is calling out the deep state and calling to abolish all of the corrupt federal institutions that are some of the biggest problems this country has, unlike any other candidate.
	Now, why would he do that?
	Why would he do that?
	And all these attacks that I see people making against Vivek, do you say the same thing about Donald Trump?
	No, you defend Donald Trump.
	Every time somebody brings up something about Donald Trump or his past or his casinos or Jeffrey Epstein or the Trump tapes and all this other stuff, you always have an excuse for Donald Trump, but then you always assume the worst about Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Why is that?
	Think about it.
	Think about it.
	All I'm saying is to remain sound of mind.
	All I'm saying is to not have reactionary bias as we enter what is surely going to be the craziest election cycle of all time.
	Vivek was never a threat to Donald Trump's run for office.
	He was never going to beat Donald Trump in a primary.
	This isn't about loyalty.
	I don't have, and for all of you talking about loyalty, again, this is what cult members sound like.
	I have loyalty to the truth.
	I have loyalty to the truth and to reality and to bring that to my audience.
	I don't have loyalty to Donald Trump.
	I don't have loyalty to Vivek Ramaswamy.
	I have loyalty to the truth and to reality and to my country.
	That's where my loyalties are.
	And if you start talking about loyalties to an individual, you're entering cult territory.
	I'm sorry to deliver this message and I know it's going to rub a lot of you people wrong.
	I come at you with peace and love.
	But you're not even through January of 2024 and you're already peddled to the metal attacking Vivek Ramaswamy, who was never a threat to Donald Trump and who has had the strongest rhetoric for our movement and been the most pivotal campaign in bringing the youth vote to the Republican Party in modern history.
	And everybody here is so obsessed with finding an edge and in their reactionary bias, assuming the worst about one individual while defending certain things about another individual, it's not logically consistent.
	It's not intellectually or sophisticatedly sound.
	And I'm just telling you, you're feeding in to what the Republican establishment wants and what the Democrats want.
	Now, again, the truth of the matter is this is not really going to impact any of the results.
	This is more me observing what conservative political culture is in the ever-expanding medium of social media and just saying, hey, let's not go completely out of control here in January of 2024 and spend all this political capital attacking one another and attacking Vivek Ramaswamy and
	becoming this crazed cult of personality.
	Let's stay focused on the issues.
	Let's stay focused on the issues.
	And one of the biggest issues is our corrupt bureaucracies, the corrupt federal government.
	And who has touched on those issues more than anybody else?
	Vivek Ramaswamy.
	That is a fact.
	I don't care whether Vivek Ramaswamy is a Soros plant or is Obama in a Republican suit.
	That's just a fact.
	He's not going to be anywhere near the White House in 2024.
	So relax.
	And again, I've always said I'm still voting for Donald Trump.
	I've always explained why I'm still voting for Donald Trump.
	The people who didn't want to support Donald Trump because of the vaccines and because of the lockdowns, perfectly reasonable.
	But they will eventually come around because Trump's going to eventually be the option.
	And this is an election.
	And you can't be a political purist or you'll have nowhere to go.
	so you have to take your best option but yeah it'd be real easy if i was loyal to individuals or if i was let me put it to you like this If I was somebody that could be bought, I would be loyal to Trump.
	I'd take the Trump social media money.
	I'd become totally loyal to Donald Trump.
	And I'd become like all the other Trump loyalists that are likely, if not mostly, all paid for by the Trump campaign.
	And I could go about that route.
	I'm not for sale.
	My loyalty is to the truth and to the country that my grandfathers, my lineage fought for.
	I could do the same thing to Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Of everything I've done for Donald Trump, and yes, I have done a lot for Donald Trump as an American citizen and a voter.
	There are not too many more that have done more for Donald Trump than Owen Schroer.
	I was one of the first people in the media to support Donald Trump.
	Check the record.
	I created a whole genre of content owning the libs on the streets.
	I created billions of views on the internet owning all the Trump protesters.
	At every Trump protest, at every Trump rally, I went there on the ground and embarrassed all of the Trump protesters that caused a massive influx of support for Donald Trump and changed the narrative altogether.
	I've been arrested three times.
	Well, I guess four times for my support of Donald Trump.
	Well, really, five times.
	I've been arrested for supporting Donald Trump.
	I went to Congress and said that they were the ones committing treason and Trump was innocent.
	Who else has done that?
	Nobody.
	But see, my loyalty isn't to Donald Trump.
	It's to the truth.
	So even though I've done all of that for Donald Trump and gotten nothing back from his campaign or the individual, I don't care because I did it because that's the truth.
	That's what's right.
	Now, on the other hand, as I get nothing from Donald Trump, I could sit here and I could say, well, Vivek Ramaswamy is the only person running for office that's actually supported me.
	He's talked about my case multiple times.
	His campaign reaches out to me, stays in touch with me.
	He's brought up my name on Fox News.
	He's brought up my name in the campaign trail.
	So I could easily sit here and become a loyalist for Vivek.
	And I'm not.
	So I would just be cautious.
	Now, again, to each their own.
	I don't do infighting.
	And I don't usually go down this road, but I think it's very important here in January 2024.
	I think it's very important here in January 2024 to put this out there and to make sure this message is heard.
	Otherwise, we're going to eat ourselves.
	That's what the left is supposed to do.
	That's how this is supposed to go.
	The left is supposed to eat themselves, not the right.
	Not the right.
	So let's let that play out how it's supposed to play out.
	Let the left eat themselves.
	Don't let the conservative nationalist populist movement eat itself.
	I'm not loyal to any individual.
	I'm loyal to the truth.
	I'm not judging people that are loyal to individuals, but that's not me.
	I'm not here to scrape and claw and get involved on red-on-red and right-on-right politics.
	I'm here to call it as I see it, and my loyalties are to the truth.
	So that's where that goes.
	Now, I can take calls on this all night, and maybe I should because I know this is a hot topic.
	But let me show you what I'm talking about here as the results are starting to come in.
	In voters, look at the youth vote that Vivek is turning out here.
	Those are big numbers.
	In fact, Vivek got more of the youth vote than we're talking about under 44 than Nikki Haley.
	So that's big.
	That tells you that younger conservatives don't like war.
	Younger conservatives like the anti-establishment politics and rhetoric of Vivek Ramaswamy.
	That's very important to the future of the Republican Party if you want it to stay on the side of not destroying America like the Democrats.
	So we should be embracing Vivek's politics.
	We should be embracing Vivek's rhetoric, not rejecting it and calling him a snake and all this other stuff.
	Wait and see.
	If that's the case, then I'll call him out too.
	I don't believe that's the case.
	It's kind of like the same thing with Trump.
	Like all these, or even Alex Jones.
	All these people say all this crap about Alex Jones.
	I know Alex Jones personally.
	I know it's bullcrap.
	All these people say all this stuff about Donald Trump.
	And while I don't know him personally, I know a handful of people that do know him personally and talk to him all the time.
	It's bullcrap.
	Same with Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Now, you don't have to trust me, but I'd think my track record would prove trustworthy.
	But nonetheless, the youth vote is something that Republicans have struggled with mightily.
	And if the anti-establishment rhetoric and politics of Vivek Ramaswamy is resonating with the youth, then we should be embracing that.
	And notice how the conservative establishment media wants to ignore Vivek as much as possible.
	Do you think they'd be doing that if he was their pick, if he was the establishment snake?
	Do you think they'd be ignoring him and keeping him off the results?
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	So we'll be continuing to monitor these results.
	I also expect a form of a victory speech, if you will, from Trump before it's too late.
	The fall of DeSantis is the other story here.
	But, but the one saving grace for Ron DeSantis is, as of right now, he's in second place.
	I would say that's good news.
	Even though he cozied up to the Bush establishment wing and he kind of stabbed Trump in the back by running, and then some of his rhetoric through the campaign was unbecoming.
	Him finishing second above Haley is actually a good thing.
	And it might keep the hopes of his political future alive.
	But, but at this point, I think if Ron DeSantis wants to actually maintain any credibility or respect from the Republican base, he needs to drop out and endorse Donald Trump.
	Otherwise, I don't see him ever making a political comeback.
	If he tries to take this thing to the bitter end and go up against Donald Trump and his base, then he's shot politically for the rest of his life.
	But if he drops out after this and says, we ran a campaign, I couldn't even get half the votes that Donald Trump got.
	Trump's still the guy.
	I endorse Donald Trump.
	I'm dropping out.
	That is the only thing that can save his political future at this point.
	Otherwise, he's cooked.
	Otherwise, he's cooked.
	Now, for Vivek Ramaswamy, you keep running because you're the underdog.
	You've put all your chips in.
	You got to go all the way at this point.
	Haley is obviously the establishment pick at this point.
	So if DeSantis is smart, he needs to just drop out and endorse Trump.
	But he might not even be control.
	He might not even be in control of his political fate at this point.
	It might be his donors and the super PACs funding him, which would be, again, a shame because personally, I am a guy that thinks pragmatically and strategically, which for whatever reason is completely lost in the Republican Party.
	Well, when you have the likes of Rana McDaniel leading it, and then you have the likes of Mitch McConnell in the Senate and formerly Kevin McCarthy, yeah, you don't get much strategic maneuvering.
	But we have a deep base.
	Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Vivek Ramaswamy, those are three viable candidates, and the Democrats don't have one.
	And we'd rather cut each other down so that what?
	We can have one viable candidate versus one viable candidate.
	It's just not pragmatic or smart.
	But that's what DeSantis needs to do.
	If DeSantis has any good advisors, they will say, stop running for president, get back to being a great governor of Florida, build up your political capital there again, do great things for Florida, throw some red meat to the voter base, and then endorse Donald Trump.
	That's what, if he has any good advisors, that's what they'll be telling him to do.
	But to this point, it doesn't look like he has any good advisors.
	And that's why he's now neck and neck with Nikki Haley.
	But at this point, it looks like he is going to at least beat out Nikki Haley.
	So he has a chance.
	He can come back.
	He can come back for this.
	But he needs to drop out and endorse Trump.
	If he tries to see this to the bitter end, he's done politically.
	But this is what we all knew was going to happen.
	Of course.
	Of course, Donald Trump was going to win this caucus.
	And he's going to win the next primary and the next primary.
	And he's going to get the nomination.
	Nobody had a chance.
	You knew the conservative Republican establishment was going to throw opposition.
	They tried DeSantis.
	It failed.
	Now they're getting behind Haley.
	That's going to fail too.
	This was always going to be the case.
	And that's why it's not hard to talk about Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign because there's no risk.
	There's no risk.
	And it's odd that people felt like there was some sort of a threat to Donald Trump there.
	Again, I saw it as weakness.
	When Donald Trump put out that statement against Vivek, I was like, this looks like a man who's weak and scared.
	Totally unnecessary.
	viveka doesn't have a shot all right yusuf welcome to the rumble rants Thank you for your letters while I was away.
	Appreciate that.
	I don't know why people marinate my steaks.
	I don't know why people don't marinate their steaks.
	People eat my steak and they're like, damn, this is one of the best steaks I've ever had homemade.
	Yeah, well, I marinate it.
	So that's how that goes.
	Thank you, Yusuf.
	All right, I'm going to open up the phone lines and y'all can call in on whatever you would like.
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	All right.
	Let me get the phone number ready here.
	The lines are already lighting up, and we'll take calls on.
	I'd like to take calls on, I mean, your response to what I'm talking about with this opening caucus and the results and everything else.
	But if you want to call in on anything, it's line to line.
	I pick up.
	I ask you your name, where you're from, and you are on the air.
	So first caller of the night, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	This is Bark Fine back in Georgia.
	I was in Florida while you were locked up.
	Yeah, I appreciate you.
	You wrote me a couple letters, too, didn't you?
	Yes, sir.
	We were hearing on the outside that you were being denied your letters.
	So I hope you got them.
	Did you get them?
	I did get your letters.
	There were some.
	Some did get denied, but yeah, I got a few from you.
	I appreciate that, brother.
	Great, great.
	Anyway, You want my reaction to the Trump victory in Iowa tonight?
	Is that what we were talking about?
	Yeah, or just my bit of a rant, if you will, on the infighting happening right now in this process.
	Okay, well, you know, I see it clearly.
	Ramaswamy, I like his rhetoric, but he's still inexperienced.
	But fact is, morally, Trump is entitled.
	President Trump is entitled to another shot at it because he had it stolen from him.
	If he hadn't had it stolen from him, I might think different, but he's entitled to it just by virtue.
	So, but I, but I feel good that he won Iowa today.
	It was above, at or above the projected polls, if I'm not mistaken.
	Yeah, they always want to try to deny Trump his rightful ground.
	I always assumed he'd win a rightful majority or rather a simple majority.
	It looks like he's going to be flirting with that.
	Still early, still early, about 10% in, but I think he'll win the simple majority.
	It's a landslide victory.
	And I mean, obviously, this was going to happen.
	Yeah, they don't have enough dead people for this red wave that's going to come in on them.
	So you think a Trump victory all the way?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	The more that they try to put him on trial and persecute him, he's just going to get more and more powerful.
	And so, yeah, I'm confident of a Trump victory.
	The only thing they could do is, God forbid, you know, if I just kill him, like Alex has been fearing and stuff like that.
	They're trying every trick, but nothing they've ever done has really worked.
	We got to remember that and keep our morale up.
	And remember, these people are stupid.
	And so thank God the enemy is very dumb.
	Yeah, what are they going to try to do to Donald Trump next?
	Obviously, the plan to keep him off the ballot hasn't been completely successful yet.
	Their attempts to put him in jail have not been completely successful yet.
	I imagine they'll keep attempting that throughout, but you know, they're going to have some other big move.
	They're going to have some new knuckleball, some new card that they'll play.
	And we'll see what happens.
	What happens?
	Thanks for the call, Bart.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Ahmed.
	I'm calling from New York.
	Ahmed, what's up?
	Yo, Owen.
	Thank God, man.
	Happy New Year.
	God bless, man.
	How's everything?
	You too.
	Good.
	I just wanted to say thank you for creating this show.
	I feel like your intentions are good for this show.
	And I know that you're pure-hearted when it comes to actually getting information out there to real people that need it, just such as myself.
	I'm not going to talk about Chase tonight, but what I am going to ask you is the last time I talked to Alex, you know, he hung up on me.
	I don't want him to be upset with me, but I was just asking him like an independent journalist, just asking a question.
	He was talking about how there's internal fighting going on with the thing with Chase.
	And I would like your input on that, just to like what he was saying, just to extend the whole conversation between that.
	I don't think I heard the conversation.
	I don't believe I heard your phone call.
	So I really have no context here.
	All right.
	So the context was: I had to call at somebody else, and he didn't like that.
	And I wouldn't like that either because I won't want somebody playing with my fat in my show.
	But my intentions are very, they're very pure.
	So I said it was me, Ahmed, from New York, and I was just asking about Chase being a Freemason.
	And he just clicked on me.
	And I understand why.
	But I was just asking a question.
	He said there was, he's like, I can't take the internal fighting or I can't take the inner fighting.
	And I found that to be like a very interesting topic for everybody to listen to.
	And I would like you to comment on that.
	On what do you think he meant by inner fighting?
	Again, I really don't understand.
	I know people.
	And I'm not misdirecting you.
	Like, there's the clip.
	It's like, there's literally a video.
	I'm not taking anything out of context.
	I'm just actually just asking a question.
	You know, let me see.
	Here's the thing.
	It really all traces back to kind of my opening theme today.
	And I mean, honestly, I can speak for myself.
	I don't know if there are many people in the media that have come up through the media and reached success organically as I would say I have.
	Now, Alex might be a case, but again, I'm just speaking for myself.
	I know I'm real.
	I know I'm organic.
	And all I can do is go off my track record.
	And all I can do is go off my word.
	But here's what happens.
	When you start to get a little more clout or you start to get a little more notoriety or fame or climb the ladder, let's say, you get a little more exposure, not just from the outside, but on the inside.
	And so I remember being younger, I mean, way younger, and assuming things about people and it turning out to be wrong or always thinking the worst about somebody because of my own bias or my own bitterness or whatever, and not necessarily regretting it later in life, but maturing and realizing it was wrong.
	So when I see people talking about Alex, Alex has his problems.
	He admits to that.
	Alex is not a perfect person.
	Believe me, me and Alex buttheads.
	It's not, I mean, we're like a family there, guys.
	And so, but when I see people reaching and jumping to these conclusions about Alex and they're just so wrong and so off base, quite frankly, it's embarrassing.
	It's embarrassing.
	And what I realized.
	Let me just finish here.
	Let me finish here.
	Because this is an important point.
	And I do this.
	I only want to lead my audience in the right direction.
	You know, when I do monologues like this, it's not to insult anybody.
	It's to just try to keep people in the right direction.
	So what happens is, and people assume things about me, obviously, too, but that's not the case here.
	That's not what I'm going to talk about.
	So I see people saying things about Alex that I just know are wrong.
	I mean, I just know it.
	And what happens is in that moment, they don't realize how embarrassing they look.
	They don't realize how dumb they look.
	And many times it's people I respect.
	And I'll just think, wow, it's a lot harder to take anything you say seriously now because you have this so wrong and you're leaping to conclusions you have no idea about and now all of a sudden I can't respect you in any way shape or form now that comes from my perspective from being there internally and seeing behind the scenes not from an outside perspective so so here's what I've learned along the way and this comes from commentary that I'm doing and
	comes from assumptions or insinuations that I might make and what I've realized is you
	have to stay focused on the issues and you have to stay focused on the known entities because what ends up happening is if you attack somebody or you jump to conclusions about somebody that you really don't know and then somebody out there that actually does know sees that and knows you're wrong and now you look like an idiot now you've embarrassed yourself and you can never fix that I don't know if I'm I don't know if
	I'm explaining this right I don't know you are but may I just elaborate on myself for a second I don't I'm not attacking Alex I'm attacking the Freemasons because they person I have a personal debt with them not a personal vendetta with them they killed my grandfather my grandfather was one and he did SGD uh corporation which is a barter control, it was a barter and trade company, and he was battling the IRS.
	He went under house arrest because of the IRS.
	Theosophical Society also had they owned the house on the hill in the Bronx.
	I talked about this with Harris on the show.
	I wish this topic would shed more light on the Freemasons also because I have people asking me about the Freemasons all the time.
	No, no, no, no.
	I know you're not.
	This is a fine conversation.
	I'm not a big Freemason guy.
	I have people ask me about it.
	I know Chase, obviously.
	Chase is a good guy.
	His heart is in the right place.
	He's a good father, and he does a ton of work to help InfoWars.
	He doesn't subvert it.
	He doesn't subvert anything.
	He's a subscriber movement, bro.
	Come on, man.
	Don't let him go on your show and do that.
	But there's a truther movement.
	You're going to like the people ask questions and they don't like when you break oath and ask questions.
	And then they look for people to guide their apprentices with the people that ask the best questions, but yet they don't want the questions asked on their whole sanctity or whatever it is to haram.
	My thing is, it's just people want questions being answered and they just want the truth and then they get attacked or they get to understand it.
	And it's like, it's crazy.
	So what's the question?
	It's just crazy.
	My question to you is: well, the, I feel like when I first spoke to you three, four years ago, we were talking about a movement and I was like, you guys have the power to do movement.
	And unfortunately, the January 6th thing was just set up by the government.
	And I really hate people that talk about that.
	But what I'm trying to say is, like, maybe that's the movement.
	There's a guy on the internet that's exposing Scientology and he's live streaming.
	Like, what if everybody just stood in front of these lodges, like Lodge 457, and then this and that, like 70 different lodges in Manhattan, and just were like, yo, we know what you guys do, and we're coming to negotiate with you guys.
	We want, we, we, so that's fine.
	I look, but what's the question?
	You're not, you're not asking me a question I can address right here.
	My question is: when can we get everybody on that type of movement where we start calling out the Freemasons?
	I don't know.
	That's not my movement.
	I didn't get into the media to call out the Freemasons.
	I don't study the Freemasons.
	That's not my thing.
	I don't, I don't, I mean, so, so, you're asking me to take up something that is not mine.
	If you want to do that, then, then feel free.
	Nobody's stopping you.
	If you want to call into this show and call out the Freemasons, I'm not stopping you.
	But that's not my movement.
	It's like the same thing with people who want me to talk about Israel or the Jews all day long.
	And I do a segment talking about the Chinese and how they subvert our politics.
	And they say, why aren't you talking about the Jews?
	Because I'm talking about China.
	Like, what is it?
	Not everything goes down the same route.
	There are many different levels and layers and avenues of corruption that we're dealing with here.
	All right, dude, there's Freemason lodges in Guatemala.
	They may even have a government.
	They have lodges in Guatemala.
	See, here's the problem.
	Do you see the problem here, Ahmed?
	Now I'm spending 20 minutes talking about the Freemasons.
	I'm talking about the caucuses tonight and your response and Vivaik's campaign and Trump's campaign.
	And it's like all we ever do is obfuscate onto these other issues.
	All right.
	Oh, well, we can agree that our American politicians are compromised, right?
	I don't think all, but yeah, we probably have the most compromised government.
	97%, 96% of them.
	I'd say we have the most compromised government in the world.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So it used to be where it used to be the most prestigious in the world.
	Maybe it's so compromised and ill to the point where it actually needs to be extracted.
	Not extracted in the point where it dissipates and it doesn't exist anymore, but it needs to be cleansed or people actually need to start repenting.
	Well, we'd like to try to do this politically, and that's what I focus on.
	And that's my thing.
	So I know other people have their own issues and other people believe that other things are the big issues and we have to do it this way or take care of this first and that's fine.
	But I can't sit here and focus on one thing.
	There are many angles.
	My goal, I have a three-hour talk show.
	My goal is to be as accurate as humanly possible and to be as dynamic and agile as possible so that people that tune into my show for three hours, I make it worth their time and they leave my show feeling more informed than when they came in.
	And if I sit here and obsess on one degree of a 360 degree picture, then I will not be successful.
	I will be a failure and nobody will listen to me.
	And then I've done nothing.
	That's my mindset.
	That's my mindset.
	I don't censor anybody.
	You can call in and bring up your issue.
	I'll respond to it.
	I might agree.
	I might not.
	But here's another thing.
	And this goes back to what I'm talking about.
	When I see people talking about, I use Alex Jones as the example, but it could be anybody.
	When I see people saying things about Alex Jones that I know are just radically wrong and inaccurate, then now I'm looking at them and I have less respect and I assume they're not that bright.
	And the same thing happens in media.
	Two examples.
	And I saw people bring this up in the chat.
	A tweet from an individual named Richard Stroker saying, I heard Jews talking yiddish in the basement of my apartment.
	I knew there were Jews underground.
	That is a fake tweet.
	That is so obviously fake.
	How could you not see that as fake?
	Richard Stroker with like a retard Nick Fuentes face?
	I mean, come on, guys.
	Now, you're smarter than that.
	I know you're smarter than that.
	But see, that's what I'm saying.
	We're so desperate to find this red meat.
	We're so hungry, and I get it, to end the political corruption, to find the loose thread and pull it that we can bring the whole curtain down.
	But that's not how this is going to work.
	Same thing just happened the other day.
	People are sharing a video from 2021 of a ship burning.
	It was the Bering Strait or something.
	And they're saying, look, they just attacked this ship.
	The video's from 2021.
	You're falling for fake news now.
	And I'm not going to name names on this issue because I still believe these are good people.
	I know they're good people.
	But I see people I respect.
	I see people I respect that are doing good things in the media and coming up in their own in the media.
	I'm not here to tear them down.
	I'm here to watch them succeed.
	I want them to build up, but they share fake news all the time.
	And I'm just like, why are you doing this?
	But see, that's just me trying to get a perspective to you guys.
	I want to be as accurate as possible.
	I don't want to ever report something wrong because then somebody might view me as a fraud and never tune in again.
	I don't want to leap to conclusions about somebody because I'm desperate to pull or yank some thread or find some controlled opposition and just be 100% off base because other people know that individual and know that's wrong.
	So I don't play that game.
	It's beneath us.
	We're smarter than that.
	We're better than that.
	We have to be more sophisticated than that if we're going to save this country, quite frankly.
	But I get it.
	I know we're punch drunk.
	I know we're desperate to save this country, that any chance you have, it feels like you're drowning to try to grab a life raft or grab the loose thread and pull the whole curtain down.
	But when you operate from that state of mind, you can be easily deceived.
	And we cannot do that.
	All right, we're going to be hearing from Trump any minute now.
	I'm monitoring the live feeds.
	He'll give his victory speech.
	Let's go back to the phone lines.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hi.
	Yeah, this is Albert from Pennsylvania.
	Hello, Albert.
	Hey, Owen, glad to see you back.
	I missed you last week.
	First, I just wanted to give a shout out.
	I got my new gear from your store in The Rise here, and I really like it.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Did you just get the shirts or did you get the pants too?
	I got, I didn't get the pants, although I think I am going to get the, you know, I think you might have just talked me into getting the pants.
	Well, I was just curious if you liked the material or not.
	Well, I mean, I really like the material of all your other, you know what I mean?
	Like I got both sets of shirts, like the more cotton ones.
	And actually just today, I was wearing the black long sleeve one with like it was more of like the, I guess you call it like the under armor type material.
	And I really liked it as well.
	Yeah, I designed those shirts to be more like a gym style shirt, like a workout-style shirt.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
	Yeah, no, they remind me a lot of like uh, like uh, like I said, like the Under Armor, like the golf shirts, like that.
	I really like them, yeah, that's what I was going for.
	I'm glad that uh, we met that mark.
	Oh, yeah, no, absolutely, no, no, no, none but positive uh reviews there, but um, uh, what I want to call in and say, you know, you talk about, um, I just kind of wanted to maybe switch base, and I wanted to talk about the um my opinion about the whole Trump kind of calling out uh Vivaik, uh, you know, the other day or whatever.
	And, you know, even though, like, I still think Trump is my number one guy, like you've said, you know, like, I just think he's been really making a lot of bad moves, and I think that might have been the worst one because I just, I mean, to me, and I've heard you talk about it, I just don't understand why it seems as though Trump continues to want to go after the more like boomer, like Fox News viewer as opposed to.
	No, that's because that's what he is.
	I mean, that's kind of what he is.
	So it's, you know, that's kind of his kin, if you will.
	No, no, I mean, I understand what you mean.
	I understand what you mean, but I just think it's a huge mistake, especially for somebody like V. Vake that's really, you know what I mean, said nothing but praise for Donald Trump.
	And even though I'm not totally, you know, I still am about 50-50 on V. Vake.
	I've got some questions there.
	But see, but that's the beauty of it is that we don't have to be all in on V. Vake.
	He's not anywhere near the White House.
	It's like, let's see what we got here.
	Let's support his rhetoric when he's right on target and let's let him bring in the youth vote, change the future of the Republican Party because it's only a good thing.
	I just, I don't understand how people don't have this vision.
	It's like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Vivake's a plant.
	He's this, he's that.
	He's not anywhere near any political power at all.
	And all his influence is good right now.
	Oh, no, absolutely.
	I totally agree with what you just said.
	And I think honestly, like how you touched on a little bit before, like supporting V. Vake and trying to push him further and further is almost like a win-win situation because I feel like if he is the real deal, he could eventually turn into a very viable candidate for our movement.
	But if he ends up being a fraud, I feel like, you know, it would kind of just like almost show itself and work.
	But see, but that's why it's so upsetting.
	That's why it was so upsetting for me when I saw Trump attack him like that, because it's like that was the perfect opportunity to give Ramaswamy the chance to earn political capital.
	Hopefully, if Trump gets into the White House, he creates a position and he gives it to Vivek Ramaswamy.
	And then Ramaswamy can prove himself.
	Is he the real deal?
	Is he actually going to abolish all the corruption in the federal institutions, if not abolish them altogether, or not?
	It was the perfect thing.
	And these are all the people trying to destroy Trump.
	And Vivek's going after him harder than Trump is.
	And it's just like, what in the world?
	And now it's just like the whole thing has been completely blown up.
	Oh, no, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	You know, like, and it just baffles my mind.
	You know, like you mentioned about how it's almost silent on Fox News.
	You don't hear anything about V. Vake.
	And I mean, he needs to be, I'd say, our number two choice.
	And I mean, honestly, all this more recent coverage about Nikki Haley this and Nikki Haley that.
	I mean, she almost makes me want to throw up more than Joe Biden does.
	Nikki Haley is just disgusting.
	I can't stand this woman.
	And by the way, let me put one other thing out there.
	And thank you so much for this call.
	Folks, we have to embrace this debate.
	This debate is healthy.
	We don't need to turn off.
	We don't need to hide in our shells.
	We don't need to assume the worst or shut down because somebody might have a different idea or thought of you politically.
	We have to embrace this debate.
	We have to embrace this debate and we have to take it all the way because there is no political debate and political debate sharpens political vision and opportunity.
	And if we shy away from debate, then we just become like the liberals that shy away from the debate.
	And so we cannot do that.
	We got, by the way, we got some heavy hitters in the Rumble Rants chat today.
	We got Forrest Mommy in here tonight.
	I saw some heavy hitting names in here.
	We got Invalid Cookie in here tonight.
	We got Buck Fiden in here tonight.
	Man, we got some big, heavy hitters.
	We got some big, heavy hitters.
	By the way, I noticed people are talking about, like, we don't like the black curtain behind you.
	Well, first of all, I'm not a big glitz and glamour guy.
	I'm really not.
	What I want to be the thrust of my broadcast is what I say, not what you're looking at.
	But nonetheless, if you want me to have a better remote studio where I can go live, just one man, one live show, then go shop at OwensroyerStore.com or go to, yeah, go to owenschroyerstore.com.
	There are a bunch of ways there to support this.
	Otherwise, you're going to just get the old black curtain behind it, which I actually like.
	But there you go.
	Yeah, the gotcha pants.
	You played that game with your friends.
	If you hit them with the circle under the waist, you get to punch them in the arm.
	So now you just get to walk around with it.
	You can punch them in the arm all day long.
	By the way, or you can just go here and that'll lead you to a personal give, send, go, which goes towards basically, you know, some either personal emergency needs, but mostly if I need any funds to continue to build this remote studio.
	But that's all at owenschroyer.store.
	By the way, I'm thinking about, because I said last time I was on here that we're going to do limited drops every month.
	And every month there would be new products at the store.
	And then after that month is gone, all the products are gone.
	I might take a different route next month, depending on the success of how this goes.
	I might just start loading the store with all kinds of stuff.
	Like I might just decide we're going to have 30 different shirt designs.
	So I don't know if you guys want to comment on that in the Rumble chat or in the Twitter chat.
	But I don't know.
	We might do that.
	We might just load the store up with like 30 different shirts.
	Haven't decided yet.
	All right, let's go back to the phone lines.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	What's your name?
	Hey, it's Drew from Colorado.
	How you doing, Owen?
	Hey, Drew, good.
	Good.
	I wanted to give a chat out to WolfpackGold.com, or excuse me, Wolfpack.gold.
	Those people are awesome.
	Did you get the gold backs?
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	Of course.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I was buying gold backs before I signed up, but because of you, we signed up.
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	Feel free to use that.
	We did throw your name out there when we signed up as well, Owen.
	Appreciate it.
	That's another way to support it.
	Let them know I sent you.
	Exactly.
	And I just wanted to agree with you on Vivek.
	I follow him on Twitter, everywhere.
	Dude, he can speak.
	He is amazing.
	He is very intelligent.
	I don't think he's a plant.
	He's crossing lines that if he was a plant, he wouldn't cross these lines.
	And the mainstream media wouldn't try to keep him off the results page.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So I'm all support Vivek as well.
	But Trump does get my vote no matter what.
	But I agree with you 100% on that.
	And just really wanted to call him.
	Shout out Wolfpack.
	Those people are great.
	Great customer service.
	And I highly recommend anyone listening go sign up.
	Veteran owned too.
	Thank you for the call, brother.
	Good to hear from you.
	Glad you're part of the pack.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hey, what's up, bud?
	It's Buck Fiden.
	What's going on?
	Hey, Buck Fiden, you finally made it.
	I know you've been trying.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My line dropped suspiciously before.
	But yes, I want to call in about the Vivek situation.
	So, you know, I mean, he would have had the chance to, you know, do all of those things I think that we're talking about, but I think people are kind of missing maybe the point of why Trump was so upset about that, right?
	You get my drift?
	Well, the theory is it's because of that picture where those kids showed up in the save Trump shirts.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's kind of like, you know, he thought he was going to be able to outmarket Trump is kind of like the way I'm taking this.
	So like, you know, the overarching theme that I think here, and that I'm really kind of hammering on with a lot of the stuff that I do is that, you know, if you're not supporting Trump right now, like, what are you really supporting?
	I mean, like, what does that really even say?
	You know, it's kind of even like that one caller, like, you know, going down the road of the Freemasons and these Zionists, these lunatics that want to call in about this stuff and bang on that drum.
	I mean, we got serious issues.
	The election is like, I mean, like, six months away.
	I mean, I don't know for lack of a, you know, how many months I can't count out, but I mean, it's not that far away, right?
	Like, so what are we doing here?
	Well, look, and I would argue too, because believe me, I understand why people don't want to support Trump for political reasons.
	Forget about whatever personal beef people might have.
	But Trump, Trump sold us out in a lot of ways politically.
	The vaccines, the lockdowns, the never-ending spending, a lot of the people he brought into his cabinet.
	Absolutely.
	That is completely accurate.
	But here's the thing.
	Again, you can't be a political purist or you're never going to win anything.
	And if I'm looking for somebody to run the country, Trump is the best bet we have.
	It's not even close.
	Yeah.
	So kind of what Vivek did was, is he thought that he was going to be sly.
	And like they went this whole time, neither one of them threw punches at each other.
	And they waited to the very last minute here.
	And Vivek wanted to like throw a punch at him and try to peel off votes.
	Like, why would he do that?
	You know, I do get why Trump is pissed about that.
	I mean, you know, like, why wait to the very end and go, oh, I'm going to like stick it up.
	But see, okay, so, so, okay, so I get what you're saying with that, but but my thing is, I don't understand how Trump doesn't have the political maturity to lay off that and realize that Vivek wasn't going to take any votes from Trump.
	Like, that's what I'm saying.
	It was a completely unnecessary blow.
	Well, it goes, it goes, I agree with that.
	It goes to the infighting, which, you know, goes to the whole entire theme of this whole thing, which is the infighting is doing nothing but diluting the support for Trump.
	And it's not even support for Trump.
	Everybody gets this twisted.
	Like, it's support for yourself.
	I mean, how was your life four years ago under Trump?
	It's not about Trump.
	Like, people just get lost in this whole, oh, you know, you're supporting Trump and this and that.
	I'm supporting like the years that the last four years.
	I'm sorry, you know, the four years that we had under Trump.
	That's what I'm supporting.
	I'm not supporting Trump.
	I don't care.
	You know, I, you know, I don't care about anything.
	If people just get lost in this, like, you're supporting Trump, you're supporting Trump.
	No, I'm supporting how it was under Trump.
	I am a very pragmatic individual.
	And to be successful in pragmatism, you have to weigh the odds.
	You have to look at realistic outcomes and you have to take the best bet.
	I could sit here and be a purist and I could say, I'm never voting for Trump again.
	He sold us out on spending.
	I'm never voting for Trump again.
	He sold us out on the vaccines.
	He sold us out on the shutdowns.
	All this other stuff.
	But that is, that's a losing mentality because then what do I have?
	I have losers.
	I have losers.
	I have no other options.
	We got the alternative of Big Mike.
	And I'm telling you, I started out, I don't even know how long ago, you know, I called in crazy talking about Big Mike and this and that.
	I mean, it's happening.
	People think it.
	People think it's Big Mike.
	They really think it's Big Mike.
	Well, it's plan C. My theory on this real quick is that it's plan C. You know, they're going to now, I mean, with this overwhelming, you know, the caucus situation, it's overwhelming for Trump.
	I mean, this is.
	Well, and I'll tell you what, now that you bring this up, you got my brain.
	You've got some things churning in my brain now because remember, the Democrats moved their caucus back.
	It used to be in Iowa and they moved it back and now it's New Hampshire.
	And now I'm starting to think, and time will tell if my theory here is right.
	It won't be too long.
	Now I'm starting to think they might have done this to see if Nikki Haley had a real shot or not.
	Because I think Vivek is right.
	I think Nikki Haley is actually the puppet establishment candidate, not even a Democrat.
	I think it's a Republican.
	It's Nikki Haley.
	And so now that they know, now that they know that Nikki Haley does not have a shot to get the Republican nomination, maybe now they make a move on the Democrat side.
	And maybe now we see what's really going to emerge from the Democrats.
	Or they're just going to have to get behind Biden again.
	Well, this is why they wanted, you know, kind of they wanted to be very silent about Big Mike.
	They did not want to talk about Michelle because they're sort of trotting her out now.
	You see, she's doing the interviews.
	They're getting her out there.
	They're getting her ready to go for plan C. If something, you know, I mean, it's overwhelming time for Trump.
	I mean, you know, it's alternate realities people live in.
	You know, that spoke volumes.
	The damn thing was done in 34 minutes.
	I mean, I mean, that's a joke.
	So, you know, to even sit here and be talking about other candidates, to be sitting here talking about all this other stuff.
	I mean, it's overwhelming for, you know, the way it was under Trump.
	Not even overwhelming for Trump.
	I mean, there's people out there that don't want to vote just because, like, oh, I can't vote for Trump.
	I mean, so I guess you want more of Biden.
	I mean, like, I just, I don't know, like, what it is that people are thinking.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I just don't get it.
	Yeah, it's like, oh, it's like, it's like, I'll use a football analogy.
	The Dallas Cowboys just lost with Dak Prescott against.
	We're like, I'm done with Dak Prescott.
	I don't want Dak Prescott.
	Okay, so what are you going to have?
	No quarterback then?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, what do we put the fucking water boy in?
	I mean, like, what are we doing here?
	You know, so there's just like, who's the alternative?
	I mean, we don't have, you know, it's not there.
	I mean, DeSantis, I mean, what DeSantis did, I mean, he's, I'm in Florida.
	I mean, this guy, this guy is a complete joke when this guy is done.
	But, you know, I mean, you know, I didn't even get a chance to call in.
	I want to call in and talk to you about this.
	But I mean, that whole time that DeSantis was going through this, he had no friends, no family.
	I mean, this guy's got nobody supporting him.
	He was a complete Manchurian candidate.
	I mean, he's got nobody.
	I just find it very odd that no family support, no, no personal, no college buddies.
	He had nobody that supported that guy whatsoever.
	Except like it is a shame.
	The fall from grace from Ron DeSantis since the COVID, the COVID rise is really unfortunate.
	It really is.
	All the way down to the participation trophy for the love of man, that was brutal.
	I mean, that was the most brutal thing.
	And I mean, all the ways the very day they just get a soccer punch with a participation trophy.
	My God.
	Man.
	I mean, that was on.
	I was watching that.
	I was like, is this like some sort of like SNL thing?
	Like, this can't even be real that they let this guy come up and do this.
	I mean, that was real.
	And then Loomer got him too.
	And Loomer got him.
	That was ridiculous.
	So it was just over.
	It's over for that guy.
	Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, the only, thank you for the call.
	The only chance DeSantis has of saving his political career is finishing second tonight.
	And even that's hanging in the balance now.
	DeSantis has to finish.
	DeSantis has to finish in second place tonight or he's done.
	And but there needs to be a follow-up move from DeSantis as well.
	Not only does he have to finish second, he has to finish second and then drop out and endorse Trump.
	And I think anything less than that, I think anything less than that, I don't see how DeSantis has a political future at all.
	So he has to finish second, which is now hanging in the balance.
	And then he has to drop out and endorse Trump.
	Anything short of that, unfortunately, I don't think DeSantis has a political future anymore.
	We'll be monitoring that.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hey, Owen, it's Kelly from Chicago, the one that always gives you the hard time about marinating the place.
	Oh, my gosh, Kelly.
	Well, Kelly, you would know if you would try one of my steaks.
	Wow.
	You would know if you tried one of mine.
	But anyways, we should do a steak cookoff someday.
	What's that?
	We'll do a steak cookoff someday.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	So listen, I'm calling, you know, I agree with you 100% that Vivek brought energy.
	He brought, you know, younger people were interested in what he had to say.
	And I think he should have been left alone.
	But we also have the problem of, you know, you can love her or hate her, whatever.
	Sometimes she's good, sometimes she's bad.
	But people like Laura Loomer who are attacking other influencers that are just, you know, just showing who the other candidates are.
	You know, she went after Benny Johnson.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I give, that's a fair, it's a fair criticism of Loomer.
	She comes off a bit unhinged with it, but I give Laura a pass because she really is true to herself and what she does.
	And she just goes after everybody, man.
	And she's done so much good work that even stuff she does that I might disagree with.
	I give Laura Loomer a pass because her track record and her rap sheet is so far beyond what most conservatives have done that I give Laura a pass.
	I might disagree with some of the stuff she does, but I know she's a good person.
	Her heart's in the right place.
	And so I give Laura a pass for that.
	I give her a little bit of a pass, but you know, somebody like Vivek, he would be useful within the party somewhere.
	There could be a place for him in the future.
	But Laura doesn't mince words.
	She says she's loyal to Donald Trump.
	I mean, she says I'm loyal to Trump.
	So she's not really trying to deceive anybody.
	She's loyal to Trump.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I know that.
	I'm a forever Trumper.
	Trust me.
	Trust me.
	I would never vote for anybody else.
	But still, I think that if we have somebody who is not financed by the left and not the uniparty, you know, we, you know, you, you were saying earlier that, hey, we should give him, you know, a fair chance.
	I mean, obviously he's not our candidate, but that doesn't mean destroy the man, right?
	So I just wish she would have backed off him a little bit.
	I could see Nikki Haley, you know, she's, she's uniparty establishment.
	I think Ron DeSantis, I think many, many of us would have happily voted for him in 2028, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I bet, and I bet Trump could have put his political differences with DeSantis aside, and he could have even been Trump's VP.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And I think, you know, and again, the whole loyalty thing, he showed, he showed everyone he wasn't loyal, but I think he would have definitely had a fair shake.
	So I can see kind of going after them a little bit, but just attacking other influencers for being around Vivek's circle.
	I don't, I don't really respect that.
	And I do like Laura and I get what you're saying.
	She's just a little, she can be a little.
	But you know what?
	And look, again, I might be coming off as a Laura Loomer apologist here, but that's okay.
	No, no, no.
	That's okay.
	I'm not because here's the other clamor either.
	I'm just saying she can be abrasive, but I just don't think, you know.
	She's extremely abrasive.
	Are you kidding me?
	Every time she has a story, she sends me 100 texts.
	But, you know, here's the other thing that I actually respect about Laura in all of this is that I could be wrong, but I don't remember her ever coming off and saying, oh, all these people are paid for by Vivek.
	I didn't see that.
	If I'm wrong about that, you can correct me.
	But I saw all these people.
	She did.
	She was saying that.
	Ah, see, that's just wrong.
	That's just BS.
	So, you know, whatever.
	And I do like her.
	You know, she's just abrasive.
	That's all.
	But I just don't think when there is somebody who is energetic and exciting and could add to it, I mean, we're all in the same movement, right?
	See, here's what happened.
	Here's where DeSantis messed up and where Vivek had vision.
	The reason why Candace Owens and the reason why Benny Johnson and all these people are following Vivek's campaign is because he has an open platform.
	He's easily reachable.
	You can hop on his campaign trail and follow him around and get exclusive interviews.
	He gives access to the people.
	Nobody else is doing that.
	DeSantis could have run that campaign.
	Instead, he decided to cozy up.
	He's got the people out.
	Exactly.
	Instead, he decided to cozy up with the Republican establishment and then he just created, put a target on his back.
	And so unfortunately, but that's what it is.
	Look, I can't say for a fact.
	I mean, I've talked to Vivek's campaign.
	They've never offered me any money.
	So I can't say for a fact that these individuals aren't getting paid for by Vivek's campaign, but I would say with 99% certainty, none of these people are being paid for by Vivek's campaign.
	They're just following.
	They're following a populist movement and a populist candidate who's saying all the right things that my generation of conservatives have been waiting to become talking points on the Republican Party platform.
	And so that's what I see is going on.
	I see it's fully organic.
	And people that are claiming he's getting paid are either that they're getting paid are either projecting or just in denial that Vivek's running a great campaign.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I, and I just, I wish, you know, we all knew he wasn't going to get it, right?
	He, but cut the guy.
	Oh, I mean, I understand the t-shirts, the kids in the t-shirts.
	Yeah, that's a little, that, that was a little bit of a stretch.
	But he had nothing to do with that.
	They show up.
	What is he going to do?
	They take a picture.
	Exactly.
	Well, at the end of the day, it's all part of the same movement.
	And we need a guy like that around.
	You know, he's getting an audience that, you know, the younger people that we need to get on board, the Democrats are great at it.
	We're not so great at it.
	So, you know, he's not going to be our president.
	And, you know, by the grace of God, Trump will be.
	And, you know, but let's keep him around.
	He's, he's important, you know.
	I agree, Kelly.
	Thank you for the call.
	By the way, Sean A. Fong, admit it, Owen, you're just afraid of the conclusion Richard Stroker's momentous efforts are escalating towards Richard Stroker.
	I mean, whoever did that, I'll tell you, the fakes that get put up on Twitter, the effort and the accuracy that goes into tricking these people is very impressive.
	But, like, again, that's what I'm saying.
	It's just like, that should have been so obvious.
	And we're smarter than that.
	You're smarter than that.
	I had people sending me that, like, oh, look at this.
	It's real.
	And I'm like, Richard Stroker with like an edited, retarded picture of Nick Fuentes.
	Like, come on, guys.
	I mean, like, let's not just fall for anything here.
	We're not that desperate.
	We need to be, we need to have a stronger foundation.
	We need to be stronger intellectually.
	But yeah, Richard Stroker, he heard Yiddish in his basement for weeks.
	He heard Yiddish.
	He heard Jews running around in his basement.
	It was all very real.
	That was one of the better, that was one of the better deep fakes, though.
	That was a classic one.
	That one had me laughing for sure from Richard Stroker.
	All right, next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Dennis from Kentucky, man.
	Hey, Dennis, what's going on?
	Hey, man.
	Let me go ahead and put this to you.
	Did you get the Lori Lightfoot memorandum yet?
	The Lori Lightfoot memorandum?
	What's she doing?
	She didn't disappear yet?
	No, this is on the eve that she left.
	No.
	She left.
	She put, listen to me.
	They really showed the Pilsen.
	There was a thing that happened in Chicago.
	It's called the Pilsen Project.
	It has to do with the Pilsen area.
	They forced and they put in this document how they was going to flood the Latino, the Latino, listen to me, districts.
	Seriously, the Latino districts for these cities, they needed between 2,000 to 2,500 in each one of these districts.
	They were giving them state IDs, depending on how and how much English they spoke, they can get a driver's license.
	This is how they're giving the voter block now.
	These people will be able to vote.
	I'm telling you right now, please remove yourself off the voter roll logs.
	That's what they calculate off of.
	So you're talking about if you move out of the state, make sure you're off the voter logs.
	I'm saying with you in the state that you're in, get off the voter logs.
	Get off of that.
	That is a record of them that they submit county by county to say who all registered with their driver's license as a Democrat or a Republican.
	The same way you get, that's right, your donor registration.
	But you're not talking about, I'm just confused.
	What do you mean by voter roles?
	Because you have to be enrolled to vote.
	Exactly.
	The one place you do that at starting is getting an I.D. So why are you saying people need to remove themselves from the voter rolls?
	Because you do not want to have yourself tabulated with, I don't know, a new voting block that just has come in.
	This was replacement migration, dog.
	Yeah, but how are you going to vote?
	I'm sorry.
	How are you going to vote if you take yourself off the voter roll?
	Easy.
	That is your right when you show your ID to write in a ballot.
	Well, I think it differs state to state.
	Think about what I'm saying.
	When you go get your driver's license, they ask you how you want to vote and they ask you if you want to be on the dominant.
	I've never been asked how I vote when I get my driver's license.
	Now, they might ask me if I want to register to vote, or they'll ask if you are registered.
	Right.
	That's what I'm saying.
	This is all in conference of them.
	That's what I'm saying.
	If you don't go along with that, you say no to the donor registry.
	You don't have to sign up to go along with that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	People need to know the very subtle ways how they're being recorded.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, I don't know what happens in Illinois.
	You have to be registered to vote.
	You have to have a voter ID to vote in Texas.
	So if I go in and I say, take me off the voter roll, then I can't vote.
	No.
	All right.
	Listen to me, I get what you're saying.
	They're handing these people rights to vote now, bro.
	They have replaced, and that's why, did you see all the number of migrants getting killed in Chicago yet?
	Yeah, there's so many that are taking over.
	It's problems, bro.
	It's problems.
	You know, I understand out the police station.
	The issue isn't with, I mean, you're right.
	They are giving them IDs.
	They're also telling them they can be police.
	They're telling them they can vote in local elections.
	That is all going on.
	But the issue isn't to me, the stopgap isn't about what happens when you register to vote or when they go to get a license.
	The stopgap is stop them at the southern border.
	To me, that's the stopgap.
	Dennis, good to hear from you.
	Let's take the next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Going once, going twice.
	Gone.
	Next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Jordan, Connecticut.
	How are you?
	Hey, Jordan.
	So I think with everything that's going on right now, I'm twisted here.
	There's a lot of people who are saying like Vivek is just not genuine.
	I find that extremely hard to believe.
	I think to pull off some like psyop injected candidate that is as articulate as himself and seemingly genuine after kind of being vetted by so many people and speaking with so many people and being pressed on the fly so much.
	I think it's like impossible.
	Well, let's just put it like this.
	If you call in and you insinuate to me that Vivaik is, or how did you put it?
	I think it would be like borderline impossible to create a fake candidate like him.
	Okay, okay.
	So let's say you call into this show and maybe it'll happen.
	And somebody says, I believe Veik is controlled opposition.
	And I'd say, well, okay, what influence has he had at all on American politics or policy?
	And they would have to admit none.
	And I'd say, well, okay, what proof do you have that Vivek has controlled opposition?
	And they'd say, oh, the Soro scholarship and oh, the World Economic Forum.
	Oh, pharmaceutical, blah, blah, blah.
	Yeah.
	And I'd say, okay, fair enough to be cynical about that.
	He's answered those questions.
	For me, the answers were fair enough.
	I would take him at his word.
	It makes sense to me.
	The guy wants to make money.
	He knows how to do it and buy our pharmaceuticals.
	He does it.
	The guy's trying to go through college.
	Harvard ain't cheap.
	He takes a scholarship.
	The guy's young, makes a bunch of money, successful in his field.
	World Economic Forum wants to promote him.
	Okay.
	Still, he's nowhere near any political power, nowhere near it.
	And then I would say, who's funding his campaign?
	Do you know the answer to that?
	His response would be himself.
	Exactly.
	So, so to me, it just doesn't make sense.
	It doesn't make sense.
	And I would much rather see where this guy goes than jump to any conclusions and destroy a potential great addition to the Republican Party for the future.
	I would totally give him a shot.
	I would love him to be a frontrunner.
	But on a deeper note, I honestly don't foresee the election even happening.
	Well, I think that there's so much on the table.
	I've heard it somewhere before.
	It's like a kid playing a game of checkers, and it's just they're getting romped so bad.
	They just flip the table upside down.
	Yeah.
	And you know, I guess if that analogy is what we're going with, I guess 2020 is they didn't flip, they didn't flip the board, but they gave us the old, oh my gosh, what is that?
	And then when we turned around, they put an extra rook on their side, they put an extra bishop on their side, they put it, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	So it's like, really, what's next?
	We can get it to all sorts of hypotheticals, but I think it's more of like a we have to look at what's happening around the world.
	We have a solicitation for major global conflict.
	We're like asking for it.
	We're getting involved in biblical class turmoil.
	Got inflation through the roof.
	We got fucking crazy manipulated viruses coming around and predicted viruses with potential vaccines for stuff we don't even know what it is yet.
	Which, by the way, which, by the way, and the Trump apologists won't like to go down this road, Donald Trump barely likes to talk about the man-made virus.
	I mean, he talks about it, he talks about it coming out of a Wuhan lab, but he doesn't, he doesn't hone in on it being a bioweapon made in a lab by design.
	Vivaik does that's huge.
	That's a big differentiator.
	Um, I got a lot of beef to pick with Trump over warp speed.
	I'll be completely honest with you.
	Um, I mean, the flip side of that, though, is a bunch of leftists are just quadruple jobs, which is great, it's disgusting.
	Come on now, it's horrible, but you know, a lot of uh a lot of Trump supporters took the bait and took the jab too.
	Yeah, I know, it's gross, and he's never backed off on it.
	I think it's a pivotal thing, and we're gonna see like over time, time will tell what that, you know, the byproduct of all that is.
	Um, well, I think we already are actually.
	I think we got a pretty good idea.
	There was a story on my desk, I didn't get to it today on the InfoWars war room.
	Uh, I'll get to it tomorrow, but basically, the numbers are in, and it's exactly what we thought.
	Cardiac issues, and more specifically, measurable cancer has skyrocketed since the vaccines came out.
	Yeah, it'd be interesting to see the U.S. data if that ever sees the light of day.
	Well, you know, it's tough with the big pharmaceutical control of our media and politicians.
	Yeah, but there's got to be insurance data, life insurance data.
	Well, that's what we're going off of.
	That's basically all we can get access to, and it all points the same direction.
	Yeah, disgusting.
	I just don't see this election happening, man.
	And if it does go through, fair prediction.
	Fair prediction.
	If it does go through, Trump is elected, let's say.
	What do you think the other side's going to do?
	Well, you're going to have the same deep state attacks, probably multiplied.
	And I, you know, I do wonder, though.
	I do wonder if they can drum up a bunch of leftist riots like they did before.
	I don't know.
	I don't think they can do it against Trump.
	I think that that, I think they're out of energy.
	They're going to have to come up with something else.
	I mean, they can do it easily.
	They can do it for a race issue.
	They can do it for a geopolitical issue.
	I just don't know if they can drum it up against Trump again.
	I really don't.
	What if it circled back to our other component of our conversation of unknown viruses?
	How do you mean?
	I mean, Trump comes in the office, and then whoops, all of a sudden we have the 20-time more lethal pandemic.
	Yeah.
	And then his response is unsatisfactory.
	Potentially.
	Okay.
	There's an angle.
	There's an angle they could get there.
	I could see that.
	I don't know.
	Biden stays in power.
	I don't think he's going to even physically make it.
	I think the left's going to probably put in Dwayne Johnson, Michelle Obama, completely.
	I'm throwing that out there.
	You know, I don't know if the Rock wants to get involved in it like that.
	I just don't know.
	Newsome can't hold water.
	Everybody knows California's a shithole.
	Like his record's not there.
	I mean, maybe they can brainwash them enough, but I don't know.
	We're quite an interesting time, my friend.
	No, there's no doubt about that.
	Hey, thank you for the call.
	I want to throw a couple other things into this.
	So, first of all, we'll start here real quick.
	This was on CNN right before the results started going.
	A poll from the Republican caucus.
	Do you think Biden legitimately won the election in 2028?
	68 percent of people in a cnn entrance poll said no yeah So what does that tell you?
	To people that say Vivek is the establishment plant, I'd love to understand why then all the establishment news sources don't even put him on the results page.
	If he was the establishment guy, they'd want you to know about him and they'd want to put him up there.
	Why would they be ignoring him if he was the establishment pick?
	Now, I already know the mental gymnastics that the Trump loyalists, everybody bad but Trump.
	I've got it figured out about Vivaik more than anybody else.
	I already know what they're going to say.
	Well, they're just doing that because they know that's what they want and they want to trick us by not showing us.
	And so they know that not by putting him on there, then they think we can trust him.
	The lengths of mental gymnastics you're having to go through to prove your point should cause you a little bit of pause.
	Okay?
	Should cause you a little bit of pause.
	And when you start having to go through mental gymnastics like that to prove your point, you're going to pull a brain cell.
	Now, think about it like this.
	Maybe, maybe, as some believe, maybe Trump is the establishment pick this go-around.
	Maybe you think Trump is the establishment pick.
	And maybe all the attacks against Trump are just them showing us that, see, he's the guy you want to go with.
	And they just know what they can do to trick us and deceive us.
	That same logic could be applied to Trump.
	And if that was the case, isn't this exactly what CNN would do right as the Iowa caucus starts?
	CNN projects that Donald Trump will win the Iowa caucuses.
	CNN can make this projection based on his overwhelming lead in our entrance poll of Iowa caucus goers and some initial votes.
	Wow.
	So CNN calls the race for Donald Trump immediately.
	Oh, that proves he's an establishment.
	Let's all just take a breath and let's all think logically and critically about all of this.
	All right.
	And let's now go back to the phone lines.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hey, Owen, it's Errol Dorts in Colorado.
	What's up?
	Well, pretty interesting show.
	Alex thought you were going to be off today.
	Thought you're still on vacation.
	Well, I'm sure there's not many people that get offered a month of vacation that decide to come back to work immediately, but that's me.
	Yeah, when he said you weren't going to be on the show today, I was like, oh, man.
	And then he goes, oh, I guess they told him you're here.
	It made me happy.
	Enjoyed the show today.
	It was really, really good.
	Thank you.
	It was great to be back.
	Yeah.
	And all these conspiracy theories out there.
	I don't know if people actually believe what they're saying.
	I think they're just into trying to come up with the wildest scenarios that they can imagine just to, you know, kind of be popular or maybe get some attention.
	But what concerns me, and this is real serious, is Vivek has been saying this a lot.
	And he says this on Alex's interviews is that I think he calls it the deep state.
	They won't allow Trump to get near the White House.
	I think that's a quote from Vivek.
	Well, and here's my here's where I disagree with Vivek's logic on that.
	And I don't disagree with, I don't disagree with his conclusion, but the logic is: well, if they're not going to let Trump get near the White House, why would they let Vivek get near the White House?
	So it's like, dude, they're not going to let you either.
	Well, I think maybe they think that he's young and maybe he could, you know, be that he won't win like Trump will win.
	Trump will win, but Vivek can't win because he's too inexperienced and young.
	And but if Trump goes up against anybody, Big Mike, I don't care the devil himself.
	I think Trump can win.
	So that might be the answer to that.
	But I think these candidates are staying in the race and running because they don't think Trump is going to get to the White House.
	And they're hoping that they become president.
	I mean, I don't know what you think about that.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, that idea has been floated out there and in some way, shape, or form, even communicated by a DeSantis and a Haley and a Ramaswamy, as you mentioned earlier.
	But see, that's the problem.
	If we know that it's that corrupt and the system is that corrupted and against Donald Trump, then why wouldn't these people be supporting Donald Trump?
	Or why wouldn't they make statements like Ramaswamy says, which is if you take Donald Trump off the ballot, then I went off the ballot too because I, you know, we need to stand for Donald Trump.
	So to me, if you say, oh, I'm running because I think they're going to take Trump off the ballot, well, then you're basically cheering for Trump to be off the ballot.
	That was kind of heavy.
	I was almost following all of that.
	But I mean, Vivek has to go, say, if Trump's not on the ballot, I'm not either, you know, but I think the other two, DeSantis, you know, and the Nagger, I think they're really against Trump.
	They're sold out to the deep state.
	Vivek, I don't think he is, but that might answer some of that question.
	But I hope that something like that don't happen to Trump because I think that might push the boiling pot over the edge, if you know what I mean, if they take him out.
	Well, they're trying.
	I mean, they're trying.
	They did take him out after he won the election, and that's what led to over a million people in Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
	So, yeah.
	And you saw the reaction to January 6th.
	They throwing everyone in prison, but try to teach everyone a lesson.
	If they do kill him, but assassinating, that they're not going to tolerate a civil war.
	But I just hope the country doesn't go down that route.
	But with the Middle East heating up, you were talking about that on your show today.
	You went into great detail.
	So if you want to comment on that, I appreciate it.
	Are you talking about the geopolitical hurricane?
	Well, no, you were talking about the attacks on the Middle East, that we paid off the Al-Qaeda again.
	Yeah, I really don't want to go down that road right now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	But I'm glad that you did bring that up.
	And let me go ahead and show people.
	So Define.
	Sorry about that.
	So if you go to band.video here and you go to the war room with Owen Schroer.
	Here's the full show for today.
	I don't know if I don't know if there'll be a segment upload that's mainly focused on that, but you can go to the full show.
	They're still trying to destroy.
	I really delve into this issue.
	Let's see.
	It was probably somewhere around the hour 54 mark, I'm thinking.
	But basically.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Or maybe it was a little after that.
	I was just saying that, you know, that, you know, they'll take us to war when everything else fails and there won't be an election.
	I think that's a very real possibility.
	It's a very real possibility.
	But basically, the insinuation I made was that the reason things are heating up in the Middle East again and the reason why ISIS is back in the Middle East again is because they laundered all the money and all the weapons through Ukraine.
	Trump got rid of ISIS, not even necessarily through strategic strikes.
	There were strategic strikes, but that wasn't even what did it.
	All you had to do to get rid of ISIS was cut their funding and cut their weapons.
	And Trump did that.
	Well, all the money and weapons that went through Ukraine ended up back in the hands of ISIS.
	And so those proxy groups, those CIA proxy groups, Western-backed proxy groups, are back operating in the Middle East.
	And so the war is back.
	Right.
	And that's the long and short of it, if you will.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I guess you might take another call.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for the call.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you for calling.
	Yeah, I did a deep dive on the geopolitical hurricane that we're currently in right now.
	But I have no doubt the reason why ISIS is back is because they just laundered all the money and the weapons through the Ukraine to bring them back.
	It's a proxy group of the CIA and Western-backed proxy armies.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where you're from, Jody, Tulsa, Oklahoma.
	Howdy.
	Hey, how are you doing?
	Good.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I just wanted to call and say, I really feel bad for DeSantis, you know.
	I mean, the dude has done an amazing job in Florida.
	For heaven's sake, he's got a criminal grand jury looking into these vaccines.
	Yeah, and he probably hired the best surgeon general, too, who's investigating it and calling it out as well.
	I forget his name, but yeah.
	Yeah, Dr. Laudipo, I just wish he would have waited, you know.
	So sad to me.
	I mean, if you could name the top five things that a conservative would want, he's done them all in Florida.
	And I mean, he's got a criminal grand jury.
	They may be charging Fauci and these people.
	They're supposed to be kicked that gnome off a bridge.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	Anyway, I'm glad you're out of jail and glad you're doing good again.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Yeah, the DeSantis fall from grace is truly disappointing.
	And all these conservatives, again, it just infuriates me.
	I try not to get into it because I really look at myself as rising above it and just kind of levitating above this ground game.
	But I mean, to sit here for conservatives and Trump supporters to sit here and act like DeSantis wasn't a great governor, you're just being dishonest.
	You're just being completely dishonest.
	He was the best governor during the COVID bull crap.
	That doesn't mean he was perfect, but he was the best.
	And just look at what it did for Florida.
	Florida is now a red state and the top destination for people moving states.
	It's Florida.
	Yeah, and they've paid off 25% of their debt.
	I mean, you really couldn't ask for anything better.
	It's just, Trump just destroyed him.
	And it's just, I think he'd be a fantastic president.
	You know, I was kind of going to support Trump just because I feel like he got robbed out of the first time, but maybe I still think Trump may pick DeSantis for the VP.
	You never know.
	Man, I just don't see that happening.
	And in fact, let me actually comment on this.
	Trump said he's already picked his VP.
	I believe that, oh boy, I would say the leading frontrunner in my book is probably Ben Carson.
	But I think how this goes, the reason why Trump has already picked a VP is because it's not an individual who's running for office or who has, or who is currently in office.
	So to me, anybody who's running or is in office, I don't think that they are, I don't think that they are Trump's pick.
	I think it's somebody who's not in office and not running for office.
	So I think Ben Carson, maybe Tim Scott, I'm not a fan.
	He's all right, I guess.
	Wouldn't be the worst.
	Tucker Carlson, I don't think Tucker wants that position.
	So no.
	Some people talk about Tudor Dixon, maybe Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	That kind of goes against my logic because I believe she's a governor right now, if I'm not mistaken.
	Yeah, Arkansas governor.
	But Kerry Lake is running for office.
	Maybe Tulsi Gabbard.
	That would be good.
	That would be good.
	I would like Tulsi Gabbard, actually.
	I would like Tulsi Gabbard a lot.
	I don't see how a Trump Gabbard ticket loses, aside from just blatant theft.
	Quite frankly, I don't see how that ticket loses.
	Let me ask you this, though.
	I just want to get your opinion.
	If Trump picks Nikki Haley, are you still voting for him?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I mean, I'd probably have to, but I'd be vomiting while I did it.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Here's me voting for Trump Haley.
	Oh, I'm going to vote for Trump Haley today.
	This is me at the polls.
	It's me at the polls voting for Trump Haley.
	You know, and yeah, so I just hope DeSantis can get his career back.
	I think he's earned it.
	You know, that's just me.
	I know everybody's hating on him, but if you could name the top five things, the top five things that you would want out of the conservative president, he's done it as governor.
	The teachers' unions are decimated.
	The DEI has ripped out all the state universities.
	He went after Soros.
	Went after Soros.
	The main thing, they're the only state that says, no shot.
	Do not take the shot.
	He's got a criminal grand jury looking into the shot.
	I mean, what do you want?
	I mean, that is not establishment.
	Some people think Christy Noam could be the VP.
	You know, that would make sense given Trump's, let's say.
	He likes all women.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	You said it as clearly as day.
	I just feel like he doesn't want anybody who's currently in office.
	That's just my take, but I'm not saying I know anything.
	Yeah, I just, Nikki Haley just disgusts me.
	Me too.
	And, you know, I think the problem, I think DeSantis' problem is, and I don't mean this to be insulting of the guy.
	I just don't think he's the brightest guy.
	I think that he was too easily influenced and he basically got duped into running against Trump.
	He had a bunch of money flashed in front of his face.
	They said, you can beat him.
	He's not going to be there.
	So I think he just took bad advice.
	I think he just made a bad decision and took bad advice.
	Hey, thank you for the call.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump is about to give his victory speech.
	And so I want to go live to Trump's victory speech.
	Here we go in Des Moines, Iowa, a city currently like negative 10 degrees.
	They announced that Donald Trump was the victor pretty much right when the polls opened.
	And we all knew it.
	If you didn't know that was going to be the case, then, well, boy, I don't know.
	You probably believe, you probably believe cow farts change the climate.
	Oh, big names on the stage.
	Matt Whitaker, is that Doug Bergham who endorsed him the other night?
	Those are big endorsements.
	By the way, I met Whitaker at breakfast once.
	He's a good stand-up guy, but he was kind of one of these guys that gets involved in politics in DC and just doesn't want to go up against the swamp.
	That's why he had a short-lived time with Trump there, but a good guy.
	But it looks like DeSantis is going to finish second and save his political career.
	But there's one more thing he has to do.
	He has to drop out and endorse Trump.
	Otherwise, he's done.
	Trump's going to let this song play, probably.
	Trump karaoke?
	Feels good.
	Feels good.
	Well, I want to thank everybody.
	This has been some period of time.
	And most importantly, we want to thank the great people of Iowa.
	Thank you.
	We love you all.
	What a turnout.
	What a crowd.
	And I really think this is time now for everybody, our country to come together.
	We want to come together.
	Whether it's Republican or Democrat or liberal or conservative, it would be so nice if we could come together and straighten out the world and straighten out the problems and straighten out all of the death and destruction that we're witnessing.
	That's practically never been like this.
	It's just so important.
	And I want to make that a very big part of our message.
	We're going to come together.
	It's going to happen soon, too.
	It's going to happen soon.
	Very stoic, focused message here.
	I want to thank some of the great people.
	We have so many senators.
	If I go through every name, we'll be here all night.
	And everybody's going to get angry at me.
	But the senators, the congressmen from Washington, they came down from all different states.
	I want to thank you very much.
	I want to congratulate Ron and Nikki for having a good time together.
	We're all having a good time together.
	And I think they both actually did very well.
	I really do.
	I think they both did very well.
	We don't even know what the outcome of second place is.
	And I see Carrie Lake.
	Congratulations, Kerry.
	I spotted her.
	I have to announce because she's terrific.
	She's going to be a senator, a great senator, I predict, right?
	You're going to be a great senator.
	And I also want to congratulate Vivek because he did a hell of a job.
	Good for him.
	This is good.
	This is good.
	And he's got a big percent, probably 8%, almost 8%, and that's an amazing job.
	They all did.
	They're very smart, very smart people, very capable people.
	Now, this is a leadership speech right here.
	I want to thank my incredible wife, First Lady, I'll say former and maybe future.
	This is a leadership speech right here.
	More important than Melania.
	Great job.
	Thank her incredible, beautiful mother who passed away a few days ago.
	And she's up there, way up there.
	She's looking down and she's so proud of us.
	And I just want to say to Amalia, you are special, one of the most special people I've ever known.
	And that was a tough period of time for the family.
	But she's amazing.
	She was amazing.
	So I just want to thank what she's done for our family and her husband, who's home right now and very lonely.
	He's a lonely man, but he's going to be okay.
	Victor, they're great people, great parents to all of us, really, great parents, but also to Baron.
	Boy, did she take care of Baron.
	That's how he got so tall.
	He only ate her food.
	And I want to thank my family generally.
	They've worked so hard and they've taken so much abuse for being good people.
	I mean, good people.
	But Eric and Don.
	They are good people.
	They really are.
	Not like Hunter Biden.
	You know, they have another job also, so they have to do it all, but they've been working so hard.
	And I know that Ivanka is home and Tiffany's home.
	They're watching.
	And I know that Baron's watching, good old Baron.
	I said, you're going to be a basketball player.
	He said, well, I like soccer, Dad, actually.
	I said, at your height, I like basketball better, but sometimes you can't talk them into everything.
	But he's a special boy.
	But the whole family is just incredible.
	And my sister Elizabeth, who's just the biggest fan.
	She's just an incredible person and always supportive.
	We love Elizabeth so much.
	Also, we have a woman who took a big chance.
	You know, in most states, we have support of everybody, the Congress, the senators.
	We had Marco Rubio.
	We had Greg Scott the other day.
	We have, you know, probably 50, 55% of the senators.
	And now they're all calling and saying, we want to endorse you, sir.
	I said, oh, great.
	Same thing with the Congress, men and women.
	We have tremendous, much more than anybody probably has ever had in this position.
	And we love them all.
	They're great.
	They're really trying to do a good job for our country.
	But one woman in Iowa who really stepped up was your Attorney General, Brenna Bird.
	She really, really stepped up.
	Where is Frida, come here.
	She stepped up.
	She's going to be your governor someday, I predict.
	So we'll see.
	We'll be watching, but she really did.
	She broke away from the pack.
	And she had tremendous courage and wasn't easy.
	In some states, it's easy.
	In other states, it's a little bit more difficult.
	But we have really the support of the people of Iowa, which has been just incredible.
	Another man who was actually the first person to endorse me in the entire country.
	He's a state senator.
	His name is Brad Zahn.
	He looks like he's the most handsome guy, I think.
	Oh, you made it.
	He had a drive from his caucus location.
	You made it.
	I call him the Marlborough Man.
	Hey, Brad.
	You want to say something?
	Come on, show up.
	Say something.
	Well, I'll tell you, I had to actually do a TV interview bragging about you.
	The reason why I was late is because of that.
	But is he awesome or what?
	I am honored to be the first person in the United States to endorse this guy.
	The next president, the 47th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
	And when he says endorse, we're really talking about 2015.
	He endorsed me before, actually, long before I knew I was going to run.
	I said, who's this man in Iowa?
	He's a senator, a state senator.
	He's a good-looking guy, too.
	Doesn't he look?
	You could pay him and give him a lot of money.
	And by the way, Mr. Chairman, I want to thank you for being here.
	You are so great.
	Comes all the way from Missouri, which isn't that far.
	Can't drive an electric car that far, though.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate it very much.
	The group of people that we have on the stage is just emblematic of the tremendous group that we've had.
	We've had such a great team.
	You know, we did well.
	We were looking really good in 2016.
	And just to go back to the senator, he was saying, I said, who is that guy, Brad, his name?
	Who is he?
	He keeps endorsing me.
	He keeps saying Trump.
	And I didn't even know I was running.
	He endorsed me four months before I knew I was running, about four months before the escalade ride down with our great first lady.
	And that was Brad.
	I said, who is he?
	So he was the first one.
	But we have people that are so incredible.
	You're Republican Party chairman Bobby Kaufman and his son, who is a brilliant guy, and he worked with us.
	And I will tell you, that is a family of real professionals.
	Matt Whitaker, who is the very talented and very good Attorney General.
	Where is Matt?
	He's around here someplace, and he's been with us all the way.
	You know, we have a man that was very impressive.
	And I say there's nothing wrong with it.
	He's so solid and so good that he didn't catch on.
	Sometimes being a little controversial is good.
	He's so perfect.
	Although he did break his leg during the campaign, that wasn't so good.
	But it sort of stood out a little bit, Doug.
	But Doug Bergham from North Dakota, the governor, and his beautiful wife, Catherine.
	And he got out of the race.
	What people don't know is that he actually supported me on the other side twice already, right?
	Then he decided to do it.
	And he was outstanding.
	But the traction is never easy, right?
	You need controversy for traction sometimes.
	And this guy is the most solid guy.
	There's no controversy whatsoever.
	And he's one of the best governors in our country.
	And I hope that I'm going to be able to call on him to be a piece of the administration, a very important piece of the administration.
	And also, just to conclude with this, the entire Trump team, and that includes my two boys who are really here all the time whenever we needed them.
	Whenever we needed them.
	They are great.
	Eric and Don.
	And look at all these people.
	Susie, I have to say.
	And Chris.
	Chris.
	And they want no accolades.
	They just want a victory and they want to make America great again.
	That's all they want, actually.
	They don't want to be speaking.
	They don't want to have pictures.
	They just want to do their job, right?
	I want to thank you very much, Jason, everybody.
	You're really fantastic.
	What a job you've done.
	Thank you.
	So we're going to come together.
	We're going to drill baby drill right away.
	Draw baby drill.
	We're going to seal up the border.
	Because right now we have an invasion.
	We have an invasion of millions and millions of people that are coming into our country.
	I can't imagine why they think that's a good thing.
	It's a very bad thing.
	I think it's a group of people that are probably larger in number than New York State.
	And we can't have that.
	We can't have that.
	It's not sustainable as a country.
	It's horrible.
	And you know, they're coming from prisons and jails.
	They're coming from all over.
	They're coming from countries that most people have never heard of.
	And they're coming from mental institutions and insane asylums.
	They're being emptied out into our country.
	And they're terrorists.
	Many terrorists are coming in.
	You know, in 2019, I saw just recently on a poll, they had none in 2019, no terrorists.
	Now, I even say there's got to be some, but they have none.
	And then as soon as this group took over, they have hundreds and hundreds of terrorists coming in, known terrorists, some of them really bad.
	And many of them are in, and they came in, and nobody knows where they are.
	This is not a good thing.
	And we're going to have to deport.
	We're going to have to have a deportation level that we haven't seen in this country for a long time, since Dwight Eisenhower, actually.
	So I don't want to be overly rough on the president, but I have to say that he is the worst president that we've had in the history of our country.
	He's destroying our country.
	And, you know, my wife attended the funeral two months ago of Rosalind Carter.
	And it was beautiful.
	And Jimmy Carter was there.
	And I thought to myself, Jimmy Carter is happy now because he will go down as being a brilliant president by comparison to Joe Biden.
	He'll be a brilliant president.
	He's going to be known as brilliant by comparison.
	So we have to stop the invasion.
	We have to bring down our energy.
	We have to say, you know, we have, I say all the time, we have more liquid gold under our feet than any other nation anywhere in the world.
	And we have to stop the crime and we have to help rebuild our cities and we have to rebuild the capital.
	Washington, D.C., I was there on one of the Biden indictment trials.
	You know, this is the only person this ever happened before.
	But I go to a lot of courthouses because of Biden, because they're using that for election interference.
	And it's on things like election.
	And I don't know if you know, but they did polls tonight on the election of 2020.
	Do you believe it was honest or not?
	82% said.
	82% said it was not.
	And we can't have that, Chairman.
	We can't have that.
	You can't have a situation like that.
	So we're going to straighten out our elections.
	We're going to do a lot of great things.
	We're going to try and go to paper ballots as soon as possible.
	Voter ID.
	One day, one day.
	Elections.
	You know, we have these elections that last for 62 days.
	And if you need some more time, take as much time as you want.
	And so many bad things happen.
	We have to get rid of mail-in ballots because once you have mail-in ballots, you have crooked elections.
	Actually, Jimmy Carter's commission said that a long time ago.
	We're going to rescue our economy.
	We're going to save our economy.
	We had the greatest economy in the history of our country.
	There was never a greater economy.
	And now we don't.
	And when you look at what's happened with inflation, inflation is destroying, you know, they call it a country killer.
	Going back hundreds of years, Germany, countries that had big inflation are dead.
	They become dead countries.
	We have to stop that immediately.
	And we want peace through strength.
	Russia would have never attacked Ukraine, would have never done it.
	Putin and I get along fine.
	We get along very well.
	That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
	The fake news, which I would, if the fake news would become real and honest news, 90% of our problems in this country would be solved.
	They would be solved.
	So Russia would have never attacked.
	Israel would have never been attacked.
	The Ukraine situation is so horrible.
	The Israeli situation is so horrible.
	What's happened?
	And we're going to get him solved.
	We're going to get him solved very fast.
	I actually said, Ukraine, I know President Putin very well.
	I know Zelensky very well.
	I'm going to get him in.
	We're going to get it solved very quickly.
	It should have never happened.
	Would have never happened.
	Now you have all that death, far greater than people understand.
	The numbers are far, far greater than anybody would even think possible.
	You're going to find that out in the years to come.
	When they knocked down these massive buildings in Ukraine and then you see they announced two people were slightly wounded.
	No, no, many people were killed.
	Many people were killed.
	We're going to get it stopped.
	But it's so sad because it should have never started.
	People killed and a culture destroyed.
	You can never replace thousand-year-old buildings with the most beautiful golden domes and churches and everything, just all rubble now.
	And it's so sad, would have never, ever happened.
	And likewise, Israel would have never been attacked.
	It all comes from Iran, and we would have had a deal with Iran very quickly, had the election where we, by the way, got, and I say we because it's all we, we got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country.
	But they say we lost by a whisker, okay?
	But regardless, regardless of that, we're going to do incredible things, and we're not going to let China do what they'd like to do.
	I get along great with him also.
	President Xi is a very strong leader, and we're going to get things solved.
	We're going to get the Ukraine war solved.
	We're going to get the Israeli situation solved.
	But if you think back to that, Iran was broke.
	I said to every country, anybody does business with Iran, buys oil from Iran.
	They were broke.
	We're not going to let you do business in the United States.
	And that's the way it is.
	They did very little business, almost sold no oil.
	Nobody wanted to do that.
	That's a big penalty.
	And what happened is they had no money to give to Hamas and to give to Hezbollah.
	And in fact, there were a lot of stories at the time.
	They had no money for terror.
	And for four years, we had no terror.
	We had the terror ban.
	We had the terror ban.
	They called it the Trump travel ban, but it was really the Trump terror ban.
	We don't want people in our country that are going to blow up our shopping centers.
	Thank you very much.
	And we want a country of law and order.
	So we're going to rebuild the capital of our country, Washington, D.C. We're going to scrub those beautiful marble columns and get the swastikers off them.
	And we're going to scrub them and get the graffiti off them.
	And we're going to clean the streets and we're going to rebuild the streets.
	And we're not going to have rusted medians through the middle that are falling down into the roads where foreign dignitaries from all over the world come and they look.
	And we're not going to be riding on top of garbage like I did just a month ago, riding on top of garbage.
	We're going to rebuild our beautiful Washington, D.C., and we're going to take control of it.
	And we're going to make unbelievably harsh penalties for people that go around shooting.
	Last week they shot three people, and every night something happens.
	It's so sad.
	And likewise, we're going to rebuild our cities and we'll work with the Democrats to do it.
	I'd be glad to work with the people in New York.
	We're going to work with the people in Chicago and LA.
	We're going to rebuild our cities and we're going to make them safe.
	And we're going to give our police officers immunity.
	So every time they do something, they don't get sued and stopped.
	We're going to end crime in our cities.
	In Iowa, you don't know what that means, but I'll tell you, this is a different place.
	You don't know about crime.
	You don't know about getting mugged and getting whacked and getting thrown into subways.
	And we're going to stop it.
	And we're going to come down very hard on criminals.
	And we're going to stop crime in America.
	So I want to just finish by saying that this has been an incredible experience.
	The people have been, this is the third time we've won.
	But this is the biggest one.
	They said, well, if you win by 12%, that's a big win.
	That's going to be very hard to do.
	Well, I think we've more than doubled that, I guess.
	Tripled it, maybe.
	They said, you'll never get over 50%.
	And I just left and we're at 54.
	Now, I don't know what's going to happen with it.
	But they said, you can't do that, sir.
	I said, what's about the highest?
	Well, you could get into the 40s, maybe 40, 41.
	And then I look up, and, you know, it's very interesting.
	I didn't know they called it early.
	I thought that they called it at about 10 o'clock.
	My impression, see this gentleman?
	We built, he's dressed like a wall.
	I love this guy.
	He goes to, he's been at 150 rallies, probably.
	He has the most beautiful outfit I've ever seen.
	It's all beautiful brick.
	Will you come up here?
	Just come up here.
	Come on.
	It's so nice to see him.
	Yeah, none of the experts said Trump would win a simple majority, but one guy did.
	Who was that?
	Over 500 miles.
	Oh, yeah, that was me.
	That's right.
	That was me.
	I said he would win with a simple majority.
	We had the safest water in the history of our country.
	Now we have the same.
	He's the least water in the history of the world.
	Look at this man.
	Congratulations.
	Really nice.
	Nice to see you, man.
	You take care of yourself, okay?
	I love that outfit.
	I love them.
	That's great.
	We love it.
	That's a hot-selling jacket, by the way.
	But that represents what we did.
	No, we built a tremendous, that's the reason.
	And we got Mexico to give us 28,000 soldiers free.
	And we had remain in Mexico, and we had catch and release in Mexico.
	And we did a job.
	We had the safest border in our history.
	We had the greatest economy in our history.
	We had a great, we were a great nation three years ago, and now we're a nation in decline.
	We are going to turn it around so fast.
	It's going to happen so fast.
	We're going to drill.
	We're going to make great.
	We have great wealth.
	We're going to drill.
	We're going to use that money to lower your taxes even further.
	We gave you the biggest tax cut in history.
	And we're going to lower them further.
	And we're also going to pay off national debt.
	It's about time.
	It's about time.
	So it's now off to New Hampshire, a great place.
	We won it last time.
	And we won it both times.
	And we love it.
	The people are great.
	But you know, the truth is, the people in our country are great.
	They're all great.
	We love Iowa, but they're all great.
	They only want to see one thing.
	They want our country to come back.
	They're embarrassed by what's going on.
	Our country is laughed at all over the world.
	They're laughing at us.
	And they want our country to come back.
	They want America, you know, they want us to be great again.
	It's a very simple MAGA, make America great again.
	And America first.
	America first is a very important part of America.
	So we're going to put America first.
	We're going to make America great again.
	Again, Iowa, we love you.
	You are going to, oh, you just go out and buy larger tractors and more land.
	Don't worry about it.
	And to all of the people standing behind me and all of the people in this room and so many great politicians and great dignitaries and friends, I just want to thank you all.
	This is a very special night.
	And this is the first because the big night is going to be in November when we take back our country and truly we do make our country great again.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	Great honor.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Former President Donald Trump with his victory speech, he could win all 99 counties in the state of Iowa.
	Could.
	He will.
	Brett.
	He will win all 99 counties.
	Brett.
	Take that to the bank.
	Just like I told you he'd win a simple majority, he will win all 99 counties.
	Now, it looks like DeSantis will be second, saving his political career.
	He still needs to drop out and endorse Trump.
	Haley is not going to go anywhere.
	I doubt it.
	She's, I think, a deep state candidate.
	And then I think Ramoswami only gains popularity from here.
	And I hope he sees this out till the end.
	I really liked how Trump handled his speech.
	Very, very focused, stoic, true leadership speech, cheersing DeSantis and Haley and Viva.
	That was good.
	That was good from Trump.
	So good for him.
	Strong showing all around.
	And I think that at this point now, I mean, they had to know Trump was going to win big, but now that it's official, he just won Iowa.
	What are they going to do with Joe Biden now that Nikki Haley is officially a non-entity?
	What are they going to do?
	Now that Joe Biden is officially a non-or Nikki Haley rather is a non-entity.
	Do they really run Biden?
	Do they just flip the board?
	These are the questions.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's going to do it for me tonight.
	Thanks to everybody for tuning in.
	Owen Schroyer Live episode 48 covering the Iowa caucus.
	Donald Trump will win 99 counties.
	Does get the simple majority.
	One step, one day closer to the 2024 presidential elections.
	All right, let's see your dancing memes in the chats.
	Let's see your dancing memes in the live chats.
	I'll see you guys tomorrow on the InfoWars War Room, 3 p.m. Central Band on video.
	We'll see you then.
	I gotta be a man.
	I can't let it slide.
	I am a real American.
	Fight for the rights of every man.
	I am a real American.
	Fight for what's right.
	Fight for your life.
	I feel strong about right and wrong.
	And I don't take trouble for very long.
	And I got it.
	I got something deep inside of me.
	Courage is the thing that keeps us free.
	I am a real American.
	Fight for the rights of every man.
	I am a real American.
	Fight for what's right.
	Fight for what's right.
	I am a real American.
	Fighting all the heights on every man.
	I am a real American.

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