Owen Shroyer, host of The Owen Shroyer Report, explores a range of topics in this episode, including the Juneteenth celebration and a debate between RFK Jr. and Dr. Peter Hotez. He engages with listeners through phone calls, humorously interacting with one caller before discussing equal parenting laws in Texas. Another caller's frustration leads Shroyer to wrap up the show, ending with brief farewells and a teaser for the next broadcast. [Automatically generated summary]
don't you hope you're feeling like him when you're getting up there in years or maybe maybe you hope you're feeling like donald trump
Maybe you hope you're feeling like Donald Trump is while he's getting interviewed by Brett Baer.
it's funny i don't i don't see anybody else i don't see anybody else getting that treatment I don't see anybody else getting that treatment by the media.
I don't see Joe Biden.
I certainly don't see Joe Biden getting that treatment from the media.
Yeah, we're going to show you the highlights, some of them from Donald Trump's most recent television interview with Brett Baer.
Yeah, the media is not going to be asking Joe Biden any tough questions.
That's for sure.
Not like they are going to be of Donald Trump.
That is, as we see it yet again.
As we see it yet again.
Well, it's always nice.
It's always nice.
It always gives us something to talk about, doesn't it?
And, you know, it's already got the left.
They're already going nuts.
And you know, I don't want to get distracted from the real big story, even though I'm going to be showing you all of the clips coming up here.
I don't want to get distracted from the real big story from this week, which is, of course, the left in a complete panic over what has happened post RFK Jr. on the Joe Rogan podcast and all of the news and headlines that that has generated.
Because there's a big thing happening there.
There's a big phenomenon happening there and it needs to be explained.
And of course, we will take your phone calls once we get through all of that.
And of course, tonight's broadcast, Owen Shorter Live, episode 29, episode 29, is coming to you through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
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Members of the pack, very, very pleased right now.
And I believe it's the interviews like this that separate him from the rest.
Now, this is one clip that had me chuckling.
So here's my deal.
In fact, let me just, let me even get out ahead of my skis here for a second.
Because I'm all for tough questions.
Donald Trump should take tough questions.
Absolutely.
100% Donald Trump should be taking tough questions.
And he does.
And he does.
But no one else in politics gets this treatment like Donald Trump.
Nobody.
And so that's the problem here.
Nobody sits down and does this to Joe Biden.
And I mean, you could do this for days with the types of things Joe Biden says.
But so, no, it's only Donald Trump.
So, so it's tough to get, you don't want to project all the anger onto Brett Baer here because he's doing a real interview with Donald Trump with his lapel pen crooked.
But it's frustrating because nobody would dare grill anyone else like this except Donald Trump.
Nobody else would dare question Joe Biden like this.
Your Vice President, Mike Pence, is running against you.
Your Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, she's running against you.
Your former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, said he's not supporting you.
You mentioned National Security Advisor John Bolton.
He's not supporting you either.
You mentioned Attorney General Bill Barr says you shouldn't be president again.
It calls you the consummate narcissist and troubled man.
You recently called and bar a gutless pig.
Your second Defense Secretary is not supporting you, called you irresponsible.
This week, you and your White House called your White House Chief of Staff, John Kelly, weak and ineffective and born with a very small brain.
You called your acting White House Chief of Staff, Mick Mulvaney, a born loser.
You called your first Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, dumb as a rock, and your first Defense Secretary, James Mattis, the world's most overrated general.
You called your White House Press Secretary Caitlin Hanny milk toast, and multiple times you've referred to your Transportation Secretary, Elaine Chow, as Mitch McConnell's China-loving wife.
So why did you hire all of them in the first place?
You're there thinking you're doing a great interview.
And you are.
The frustration from everybody watching here is that Donald Trump has to endure these interviews, but nobody else does.
Nobody would dare go pull through things that have been said about Joe Biden from Kamala Harris or Richard Byrd or anybody else, and then sit there and grill Biden about that to try to flummox him.
Nobody would dare sit there and say, Joe, what did you mean when you made all of these different statements?
And I got to tell you, I'm mixed on this because it's like it's like sweet and sour or something.
Like, I like it.
I laugh at it.
It's funny.
And I get where Trump is coming from.
It's like, hey, we're fighting for the country here.
We're fighting for the future of the country.
Do you understand what's at stake?
This isn't time for wuss bags.
But then in another level, he opens himself up for this criticism.
And that's frustrating.
But, oh, but see, he has to deal with that when no other candidate would.
But see, now there's other real candidates in there.
Trump did pave the way for other people to say, hey, I can be my own man and I can run for president.
And I can tell it like it is, and I can win a primary.
called bill bar disgusting pig yeah that's pretty funny stuff actually um Now, I was confused at this because Eric Swalwell claims this clip.
CFU took the same, I don't know what clip Eric Swalwell was watching, but he claims this is Trump confessing that he stole and shared classified materials.
That's what Eric Swalwell claims he heard in this clip.
Tell me, do you hear Donald Trump claiming he stole and shared classified materials in this clip?
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I don't want to dwell on it, but according to the indictment, you were here at Bedminster on July 21st, 2021, after you're no longer president, and you were recorded saying that you had a document detailing a plan of attack on another country that was prepared by the U.S. military for you when you were president.
You're quoted on the recording saying the document was secret, adding that you could have declassified it while you were president, but quote, now I can't.
You know, this is still secret, highly confidential.
And the indictment cites the recording and the testimony from people in the room saying you showed it to people there that day.
If you look at what they've done to other people, what they've done and overturned in the U.S. Supreme Court, these are thugs.
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The suggestion was that you wanted this as evidence that the military, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Milley, had preemptively sent you plans for a possible attack on Iran and that you didn't order that to happen.
Eric Swalwell says that's proof Donald Trump claims he stole and shared classified documents.
Well, Eric Swalwell is lying again.
And I don't think Eric Swalwell should be opening his mouth and saying anything until he shows the world the evidence of Trump-Russia collusion that he claims to have.
And then maybe he can start talking.
Or if he wants to do a reveal, maybe with his girlfriend Fang Fang, or maybe they do like a gender reveal if she gets pregnant or something, then maybe.
But other than that, he should probably just probably just shut up.
Now, Brett Baer tries to hit Trump on the issue of suburban housewives claiming he's losing their votes, and Trump takes the conversation in a different direction.
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What do you say to that female independent suburban voter who feels that way to win her back?
And if you look at all of the tapes, if you look at everything that you want to look at, you take a look at Truth to Vote, where they have people stuffing the ballot boxes on tapes.
It's like, okay, you won the election, but you were president.
You let him stole it.
And you know, you hired all these bad people.
I just, I don't know.
I don't know how it's a bad, it's just, you know what it is?
It's bad messaging.
Because even me who agrees, who's leaning towards voting Trump, it's just like, it's such a turnoff to hear that.
It's like saying, I mean, it's like we want to, don't say you're going to drain the swamp.
Do it.
So he shouldn't even say drain the swamp anymore.
He should say, I'm going to abolish the FBI.
He should say, I'm going to abolish the IRS.
He should say, I'm going to abolish the State Department.
I'm going to abolish the Department of Education.
That's what he should promise.
Oh, I'm going to drain the swamp.
That doesn't mean anything.
Say something that means something because it's just getting tiresome.
And it makes me feel like an idiot.
And I don't like feeling like an idiot because I'm not an idiot.
But maybe I am an idiot.
And I don't want to be an idiot.
So when he says stuff like this, and the DeSantis team is hitting Trump on this tonight from the Brett Baer interview, making fun of who Trump hired and who Trump brought to the White House, like, like Kim Kardashian and Fauci and Christopher Wray.
So he leaves himself an opening, and he makes you feel dumb, I think, when he says stuff like this.
Now, to be fair, there's plenty of time between now and the election.
There's plenty of time even between now and the primaries.
You got a year before the primaries.
So I don't expect him to release a list anytime soon, but I think it would be a strong move to do during the primaries to push him over the top, release a good list.
If you're going to hire good people, release that list.
If it'll be good, strong people, they can start to go to bat for you.
That'll put you over the top in the primaries.
The Republicans are going to have the long knives drown out for him.
So he's going to need to have something in his quiver for the primaries.
But I don't want to hear Drain the Swamp anymore.
That rhetoric is already trailing because Vivek Ramaswamy has said he's going to abolish, and he said the specific bureaucracies.
And even RFK Jr. has talked about the corruption more hardcore, naming the bureaucracies, more so than Trump will.
So Drain the Swamp doesn't dig it anymore.
Drain the Swamp is old news.
That's old hat.
It's time to name that bureaucracy.
It's time to abolish and name that bureaucracy.
That's what it's for.
So as far as the, he claims he has the list.
He claims he knows the people.
That's fine.
He can release the list when it's timely.
But as far as right now, I don't want to hear Drain the Swamp.
I want to hear abolish, and I want the federal bureaucracy to be named that he's going to abolish.
That's Draining the Swamp.
Now, Trump did get a nice little hot shot here at Fox News on the Fox News interview.
So that's always fun.
Fox News post-Tucker Carlson ratings are down, and Donald Trump wanted to remind them of that.
lot less i saw the news like right out of the gates with the Fox did take a dip.
And, you know, obviously mostly in the Tucker Carlson hour.
Overall, though, Fox News's ratings are not down that much.
Outside of the Tucker Carlson hour, they're really not down that much.
They've been cut in half virtually in the Tucker Carlson hour.
But outside of that, they're pretty much right up where they normally are, leading cable news.
So I don't expect that to change.
But that's just because the truth is there are vastly more conservatives out there and vastly more conservatives that watch news out there than liberals and liberals that watch news.
So Fox is always going to have better ratings than CNN and MSNBC simply because there's more conservatives and more conservatives watch news and want to know what's going on in the world.
So that's not going to change.
But there you go.
some of the highlights from Trump's interview with Brett Baer.
I'm just not seeing Trump adjust his message quick enough.
And I guess he thinks he can just live off the fact that the deep state's still attacking him relentlessly and that the media is still attacking him relentlessly.
And he figures he doesn't have to advance his political message that much because that's what he's got in his pocket and he's not going to lose his 75, 80 million voters.
So I have to remember, and we have to remember, our viewpoint on these things is from an elite political perspective.
Trump dumbs down his message a lot so that he can reach the general population.
And that's not to be insulting.
That's just playing politics, like it or not.
But he figures he's got to do that to get back into the White House.
And maybe he feels that way more so in this upcoming election than he did in 2020 because at that point in time, he had never lost a presidential election.
Now he has.
So I want to get to the second big issue, which I spent most of the time on the War Room covering today, so I won't spend too much time on this.
But this whole Dr. Peter Hotez refusing to debate RFK Jr. is really, really a big story.
And I think that people are seeing why it's a story.
I know, like, Elon Musk has exactly called it out for what it is.
Well, there's two things.
Dr. Peter Hotez will not debate RFK Jr. because Dr. Peter Hotez would lose the debate, and he knows it.
So to Hotez's credit, he's smart not to go fight Mike Tyson.
And I'm not even saying RFK Jr. is the Mike Tyson of the vaccine debate.
I don't know who the Mike Tyson of the vaccine debate would be, but that's not even to say RFK Jr. is the Mike Tyson of the debate, but it's just to say Hotez would know he'd lose.
So Hotez is smart enough to know I'm not going to go and lose this debate.
Why would I go have a debate that I know I'm going to lose?
So you see how big of a story this is.
And it's not just the vaccine issue.
It's the climate change issue.
It's the gun confiscation issue, open borders, you name it.
All of these political subjects where the left is now aligned with the establishment message and with the Democrat Party message, they know they cannot debate their positions, their policies, their ideologies cannot be defended.
So they can't defend them.
They won't defend them and they won't debate the opposition to them.
That's big.
And if these dominoes keep falling, folks, it is over for the American left.
It is over for the World Economic Forum.
There is no way their climate change debate cannot hold up in a real debate.
It cannot.
And you notice that's not even what we have.
If we even get a political debate, they don't debate the merits of climate change.
They assume it's true, and then they ask you, what are you going to do about it?
So you're not actually seeing presidents, and maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't.
I don't think Donald Trump could debate climate change.
Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't.
But no, it's, oh, what are you going to do about climate change?
you're just supposed to accept the propaganda is real and see how the Democrats rig the debates before they even start.
What are you going to do about climate change?
That question itself is rigged.
That question itself is Democrat Party propaganda.
But whether it's the effectiveness of vaccines or whether it's the climate change agenda or any of this other tyranny that they want to bring upon us, the tyranny of the climate change agenda, the tyranny of the vaccine agenda, they cannot defend their stances and they cannot debate the issues because they know they will lose.
And if this is revealed on a massive scale, sure, you've known this forever.
I've known this forever.
Of course.
You're in an elite IQ information level because you listen to, I see people in the comments, InfoWars and Bongino and other people.
You know what's going on.
You're in the top 10% of people that understand what's going on.
Most people don't know that the American left literally cannot defend any of their issues.
They haven't seen it.
They don't know it.
They don't get it.
All they see is their propaganda all the time.
They're the moral high ground.
Everyone's accepted their ideology.
and none of it's true so when you have this going on from what are left-handed batters elon musk is on the left side of the political spectrum Joe Rogan is on the left side of the political spectrum.
RFK Jr., left side of the political spectrum.
And they're questioning the merits of these vaccines and they're wanting to have these debates.
And it's all the establishment talking heads like Dr. Peter Hotez and his friend Mehdi Hassan, Hassan Mehdi, who are defending the vaccines but will not debate them.
So Hotez goes on Hassan's show and says, I will not debate, but the vaccines are still great.
But then also claims that because of vaccine misinformation that's coming from RFK Jr., 200,000 people have died.
So Dr. Peter Hotez, by his own logic, is refusing to save 200,000 people's lives by not having the debate.
But you know this.
You understand this is going on.
If more people see this, the more people that get attention to this, the more people that can see, hey, this person's talking a big game, but won't back it up.
Happens all the time if you're playing pickup ball in the streets at the gym, at the rec center.
Happens all the time.
Somebody running around, they're the best ball player, they're the best ball player, they'll beat anybody.
And then as soon as they get challenged and they don't want to step on the floor, they're trash.
Nobody respects them anymore.
Whether they're the best or the worst, nobody in the gym respects them.
Oh, you're trash.
You won't show up.
You're complete trash.
You're the worst player here, aren't you?
Oh, I'm the best player here.
Really, let's play one-on-one.
No, I ain't playing you one-on-one.
You're trash.
You're the worst player here.
That's just basic human intelligence.
That's just basic knowledge through experience.
You talk a big game, you don't show up.
You don't put your money where your mouth is.
You're a fraud.
So if the American people can see that this is the entire left on every policy, viewpoint, ideology, they talk a big game, but they won't show up.
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They talk a big game, but they won't put their money where their mouth is.
This will be a major awakening moment for the people.
I have no doubt.
So that's why I hope that this trend continues.
And I hope Musk and Rogan and RFK Jr. and everybody keep the heat on Peter Hotez and remind him.
But see, it's not even about the money.
The money is just to make a point.
The money is just like a bet.
The money is putting money where your mouth is.
Peter Hotez can't go show up on the Rogan podcast for two hours or three hours to talk about vaccines for a million and a half dollars for charity because the vaccine industry is worth trillions of dollars.
Trillion.
So you can't let the fraud of your trillion dollar industry collapse for a $1.5 million campaign or contribution to charity.
Hell no.
The fraud that holds up the vaccine and pharmaceutical industry ain't worth a million and a half dollars.
Try a trillion and a half dollars and you might still be short.
So that's why you can't have the money.
But you see, see how it opens it all up?
Hey, why won't he show up to debate?
Oh, liberals can't defend their own beliefs.
Hey, why won't he take a million and a half dollars for charity just to show up and sit down for an hour or two?
Oh, because the vaccine in the big pharmaceutical industry is worth trillions of dollars, and that's too big of a risk for a million and a half dollars.
But that's why it's so important with people like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and others to make a big deal of this and for us to continue to put the pressure on it as well.
So it's like a feedback loop, like a reverb loop, like an aftershock.
It's like, no, no, you're not going to run from this debate.
No, you're not going to run from this debate.
No, you didn't.
No, you're going to, if you run from the debate, then we're going to go have the debate without you.
And we're going to get 10 million views on an episode.
And we're going to have a little chair that says, oh, here's Dr. Hotez's seat at the table.
Let's see if he shows up.
That's what Rogan should do.
He should say, now, again, the money was a bet, but this would be amazing.
If the people that put their money down said, hey, I'm going to make good on this.
I'm still going to give the money to charity if Hotez shows up or not.
And then you have RFK's seat with his name card, and then you have Dr. Hotez's seat with his name card.
And let's see who shows up.
Let's see who shows up.
Ah, that's what they should do.
Say, hey, you know what?
Dr. Otz says he doesn't want to debate, but we're going to get a million and a half.
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The people that committed to it, they said they're going to commit to it anyway.
So we're going to get the million and a half for charity, and we're going to give it to this anti-vaccine charity unless Dr. Hotez does show up and debate it, and then we can give it to a charity of his choice.
But the debate is still on.
Million and a half to charity.
Dr. Hotez will have a seat at the debate table.
RFK Jr. will as well.
Let's see who shows up.
I mean, let's really just stick the fork in this gremlin.
Let's really just cook this goose.
I mean, let's just end this creep.
Who goes on TV?
First, when Trump was president, he said, don't get the vaccine.
It's going to be dangerous, like everyone else reading from the Democrat Party sheet music.
And then as soon as Joe Biden became president, he said the vaccine was great.
And then he said, you need to get five.
And so for years, for two years, Hotez, three, he's still promoting it.
For three years, Hotez has been telling you to get these vaccines and how great they are.
And then he won't show up to the debate to defend them.
No, it's time to end this.
It is time to end this man's career.
This is ludicrous.
He runs the most influential children's hospital vaccine clinic in the state of Texas, and he won't even show up to debate his own beliefs.
And how many children have been jabbed?
How many children have been penetrated because of Peters, because of Dr. Peters medical influence?
No, this man needs to be embarrassed on a national stage.
This man needs to have his career ended for his cowardice and fraud.
That he would go on television for years promoting the vaccine and then not show up for the debate for charity.
It's over.
Total embarrassment.
Take this to the finish line.
Tap him out.
Let's see if Rogan and Musk and RFK Jr. have that vision and have that will.
Because it's all right there.
All they got to do is finish him.
It's up to them, though.
Problem is, Musk and Rogan aren't really political warriors.
They're just not.
They do their own thing, and then they get involved in politics every once in a while, tell it like it is, and then they move on to their next thing.
So it's really just going to have to be just going to have to be RFK Jr. that's going to put the pressure here if we're going to see this to its end.
But that's what needs to be the end of this.
Because he's not going to show up to the debate.
So now it's just this, oh, it never happened and it's fine because he said he didn't have to do it and then we just let it go.
And okay.
No, you finish this by saying we're having the debate.
And if he doesn't show up, he'll have an empty chair with his name on it and we'll still go to him to ask questions and nobody will be there because all he ever was was an empty suit, an empty bow tie.
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All right, we're going to take calls now the rest of the way on Trump's interview with Brett Baer and Dr. Hotez, the cowardly doctor who promotes vaccines for his whole career, basically, but then refuses to defend his stance on vaccines.
So, man, and I'm telling you, the Seattle telecast was pissed because we kept getting InfoWars and the Trump had in their shot.
And so they kept trying to have us moved and everything.
But we were, I mean, we had those seats and it was the Rangers game.
And so there was nothing they could do.
But they kept sending the people down there to check on us and make sure we weren't.
They knew we had something up our sleeve, but they didn't want to just kick us out.
They wanted to keep us there.
So we kind of stayed.
And then in the ninth inning, we did our little dance thing.
And he hit that home run.
And so it was the top highlight from the game.
And Seattle wouldn't even play the, they had to take some alternative camera shot when they were playing the clip because they didn't want to put us in it.
And I mean, it just so happened, too, folks that don't know, I will be in a DC courtroom on Friday defending my innocence for a bunch of different charges, but I'm hoping that things go well and I can put that behind me.
It'll be a big thing for me and a big thing for justice.
I'm innocent, and so I should walk out of that courtroom essentially a free man.
And that is happening on Friday of this week.
And it's funny because it does mean a lot to me.
I ran into a gentleman today at the pool this morning.
And he was in town and he just, he saw me walking by, and he came up to me and he was just like, hey, you're due, you know, you got some legal stuff coming up, right?
He's like, I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad you're not in jail.
I was like, yeah, I'm going to be in court this week.
He's like, oh, man, I'm praying for you.
I'm praying for you.
So it really does mean a lot.
And I mean, I've been in and out of court.
I know the world I live in.
I know the fights that I fight.
So it's not like I'm going to sit here and say, oh my gosh, my knees are shattering and I'm nervous.
But I mean, it's your life on the line.
My life hangs in the balance, essentially.
So it is a serious thing.
So I appreciate your prayers.
Big shout out to Catch a Fire.
Yeah, let's try to get this idea to Rogan.
Maybe I'll tell Alex actually to send Joe a text with that idea because I think that's what needs to happen.
And yeah, you'd have RFK Jr. just sitting there with an empty chair, debating an empty chair.
And that's the symbology.
That's what it is.
So I don't know, catch fire.
Maybe I'll see if Alex can't shoot an old text to Joe.
By the way, here's that Fetterman clip in case you've never seen it that the caller just talked about.
And now I'm standing next to the president again, next to a collapsed bridge here.
And he is here to commit to work with the governor and the delegation to make sure that we get this fixed quick, fast, as well, too.
This is a president that is committed to infracture.
Yeah, and on top of that, the dual kind of law of the infrastructure bill that is going to make sure that there's going to be bridges all across like where's the infracture quick fast as well it's going to be a quick hold on it's going to be quick and fast too get this listen to this one that we get this fixed quick fast as well too this is a president that is committed to infracture in infucture
In fracture and fracture and fracture and fracture and fracture and fracture.
It's a fracture and fracture committed to infractures.
That is committed to infractures.
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All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
Maybe I'll see if I can find that rangers video, too.
We'll try to pull that up.
next caller what's your name where you're from and now oh hold on you're getting interrupted by uh you're getting interrupted by infarction infarction all right we got you now what's your name where you're from this is barrick bonnie watching the retarded president looks like the sun doesn't he i mean or something you know about uh infarction infarction fetterman yeah yeah yeah the the the stroke uh god both of them had a bunch of strokes that's true actually yeah
they both had uh like brain surgery i think fetterman hears fetterman hears voices yeah well he looks like lurch on the adams family doesn't he i mean look i feel bad for the guy he he really has mental problems i mean he genuinely it's bad and i mean it's just but they put him up there what am i supposed to do he goes up there he says infarction and he looks like lurch as you say so what am i supposed to do
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unidentified
well they just go up to him and go hey sign this asshole okay is this the infarction bill when do i get to infarction he doesn't he doesn't have a clue in either one of these this is just like alex has said and you've said just the blatantly piss in our face that we have these kind of people's ruling people ruling over us no it's unbelievable and notice how uh dr oz has just disappeared too like what an embarrassment
yeah he was like a a democratic plug pretty much like a rhino i didn't think much of him yeah and it's just like it just shows it just shows he was never a real fighter yep yep My final thing to point out was Bret Baer, he did not like when Trump started talking about the stolen election.
Home run number 39 for Joey Gallo off the bench here.
Open the 6-1 In these little down right?
Very little doubt, especially if you look at the launch angle and hit it straight up in the air and start carried at, oh, I don't know, 420, 430 feet from Erasuper Mojo.
Take a look at the fastball.
Put the shift on door way out.
right field i mean that's hilarious This is when you used to be able to have fun at ball games.
He hit the home run right when we stood up and danced.
That was 2018, September.
That was one of the last games.
That might have been one of the, if not the last game of the year that year.
But yeah, 2018, Rob Dew and I, a successful troll.
All right, let's go to the phone lines.
We're going international, I think, now.
Who we got on the line?
What's your name, where you're from?
unidentified
Hi, Owen.
Johnny in Denmark.
What's up?
Hope you are.
Yeah, take it as a compliment that it is that this is the first time ever that I registered my email account and my telephone number with Rumble in order to get on this show.
So yeah, just wanted to finish up on two things.
One was the call I made to you on the War Room today, getting into just the nitty-gritty of exactly why Hotz is doomed to failure in the debate.
Six Immune Subsystems00:04:14
unidentified
And second, when I mentioned the Schroyer cat paradox the other day, you said you wanted to follow up, and it seems like kind of maybe a relaxed way to do it.
Yeah, again, as I mentioned on War Room, Fauci and Hotez are working on a medical model from 1915, which acknowledges only the existence of a primary immune system, the innate and the adaptive.
And it's a tried and failed.
The more modern theory of the immune system has not two, but six immune subsystems, and those include the interferon system.
And by the way, not Muhammad Ali, but I would say not Mike Tyson but Muhammad Ali of anti-Fauci is actually Dr. Shiva from whom Bobby Kennedy got a lot of this stuff and Shiva's bitter about it.
I don't think you should be bitter.
I think imitation is the highest form of flattery.
In any case, and those four subsystems are the interferon system on which Dr. Shiva, an MIT, MS, M-E-N-G, DS and PhD, and distinguished lecturer wrote about 35% of his PhD thesis.
The interferon system regulates between the innate and the adaptive immune system.
The brain-gut access, gut-brain axis, basically this idea that we've had that I can feel it in my gut, there's a real biological basis for that.
Actually, you know, the brain has about the actual brain in the head has about 100 billion neurons.
The brain in the gut has about a half billion neurons, which fails by comparison, one in 200.
But it's actually much greater than that of most biological organisms.
And the microbiome, without which, you know, we would be dead.
There are a few pounds of bacteria in our microbiome that are necessary for life.
And interestingly, by comparison, there are about, it's thought, best estimates I could see, or 60 trillion bacteria in each human body, as opposed to about 37 trillion cells.
So if you think about it, your body has more bacteria than it does cells.
If you actually even believe in the cell theory, actually, it hasn't been proven that organs are made of cells, but presume they are.
There are not as many as there are bacteria.
And if you believe in viral theory, there are 380 trillion virions, in other words, viral units inside the body.
So if you think about it, your body is just kind of an ecosystem of your own cells, if you believe in cells, bacteria, which are real and observable, and viruses, virions, viral particles, which, by the way, have not even been proven to exist, let alone to transmit disease.
But presuming that they are, which is, you know, one way to go, I mean, this is going way beyond what either Fauci, who's just hopelessly antiquated and obsolete.
And Holtez, who actually, he's actually not as stupid as he seems.
In fact, he's got a Yale B.S. And he's got a Rockefeller University, which is one of the world's most distinguished research universities, PhD.
And it took him only one year after that to get his MD from Cornell.
So I have a feeling, you know, Fauci, I think it's a combination of working with an antiquated model from 1915 and being in denial about it, because as Upton Sinclair once said, after losing a presidential, I'm sorry, not a presidential, but a political race, it's hard for a man to understand something if his salary depends upon his not understanding it.
Drunk and Spotted00:09:38
unidentified
And I think that's Tony Fauci in a nutshell.
Yeah, we're telling the truth about it.
Well, first of all, you have to acknowledge the truth before you tell it, right?
Flashing back again in 2018, I believe it was 2018, Dr. Shiva Ayadou Ray was running against Elizabeth Warren, and they basically strong-armed him out of the debates.
I flew to Massachusetts and was out there with him when they strong-armed him out of the debates.
We had a couple people inside crashing it.
We were outside exposing them.
I got to know Dr. Shiva pretty well that year working with him.
He's spicy, that's for sure.
And he is an extremely smart person.
But yeah, I used to remember he would come on my show years ago.
This might have even been before banned out video.
All these videos are probably removed from YouTube, but he used to come on my show years ago and break all this down.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
And the thing is, don't get me wrong, Dr. Shiva is my dream candidate for U.S. president.
And not only is he smart, I mean, he's like, he's like, yes, he's extremely smart.
He's a 200 IQ-ish sort of guy.
And I would say one of the few, just several scientific world's greatest scientists.
Because you claim you're, are you voting from Denmark?
unidentified
Well, I could.
I haven't bothered recently, but I could.
But, you know, I'm a born-raised U.S. citizen.
I spent the first 23 years of my life in New York and the next six years of my life in California, then three years after in London, England, and have lived in Denmark now since 1996.
Yeah, I was going to say, that's got to be the most popular rock band from Denmark of all time.
unidentified
You may know that better than me simply because you know much more about modern rock than I do.
Remember, I was born in 19, I don't know how long it sounds, but I was born in 1964.
So I was raised with like, you know, Led Zeppelin and Errol Smith and, you know, even sharpy stuff.
So the modern rock you understand a lot better.
But getting to the, yeah, but the problem with Dr. Shiva, and this is a kind of a, look, nobody except Jesus Christ is perfect, and Dr. Shiva has his problems too.
And so I started by saying he's a dream candidate, and he's one of the world, just several leading scientific polymaths and even general polymaths.
You know, I generally don't tell people that, you know, I'm a one in million scientific polymath myself, which I am.
But in this case, it's not bragging because it's I tail in comparison to him.
And he's really cool because once I close on his show and I, quote, convinced him, unquote, that COVID-19 didn't exist.
And he could have pulled rank on me and said, who the hell are you?
You know, look at my qualifications.
Who the hell are you?
Even if you're one in a million, I'm one in billions.
But he didn't.
He, quote, admitted, unquote, I was right.
And the reason for these quotes and unquotes is I believe that he knew it beforehand.
But he's also a very practically clever guy.
And notice that even though he says some of the most anti-establishment things around, he doesn't get booted from YouTube, for example.
And the reason is, I think I played over the recording several times, and I noticed in his eyes, it was one point at which he understood, okay, this guy knows what he's talking about.
And he had a real sense of relief that, yes, somebody said it, and it wasn't me, so I'm not going to get booted.
So if they came after him, he's like, hang out a second.
How does it feel to know that right now, as you're talking, there are women working on stage in Los Angeles for Juneteenth?
I mean, this is a serious celebration, Johnny.
This is a federal holiday here.
You might not, you think that's funny.
You think that's funny out there in Denmark, but this is a federal holiday in the United States of America.
And the fact that you're not taking Juneteenth seriously is offensive to my culture.
And so we're going to have to, for you, that is Unbelievable, Johnny from Denmark, that you would disparage the Juneteenth celebration in such a way from across the pond, too, like that.
Guys, I'm telling you, it's just ridiculous.
I've been watching this Juneteenth thing, and it's been, it's just, you know, it's been like a concert.
It hasn't been a big deal.
But then they brought up those women in the gene underwear thing.
It's like, have you ever seen the gene underwear, the low cuts?
But we're not talking about low cuts that actually go down the leg.
Like, these don't even go down the leg.
It's jeans that just go up the ass.
And they had these girls on the stage with the jeans up the ass just shaking their ass.
It's like this is your government-funded Juneteenth celebration.
And I was thinking about that because I was like, yeah, what kind of argument?
2024 is coming.
It's a hot button issue.
And I wanted to bounce this idea off of you About if it does end up, I believe it's true, but if it does end up being true that brain scanning and mind-reading technology is real, like Nikola Tesla came up with, where he can read the consciousness through the electronic signals emanated by the 20-watt brain we all have, that may be better than the heart rate.
I was thinking maybe we should do, instead of the heartbeat bill, you know, the consciousness bill that, you know, it should be when the baby inside the womb is conscious, because I think that's before the heartbeat.
And I think that's one of the interesting things we need to move towards is finding out when the baby is having thoughts and can feel pain.
Well, I think that the reason why the heartbeat bill works is because it's something everybody can relate to.
It's something we're taught.
I mean, again, I'm not trying to dumb the conversation down for the sake of dumbing it down.
It's just let's engage in the playing field we're on.
You have a heart.
You know you have a heart.
You've heard your own heartbeat.
You've probably heard somebody else's heartbeat.
So it's like it's relatable.
Everybody knows what it is.
And you can actually see the heartbeat.
I mean, science is five weeks.
So after four weeks, so usually in the fifth week of pregnancy, after four weeks is when you first can have a heartbeat in the fetus and you can see it on an ultrasound.
You can see the heartbeat.
So, I mean, to me, that's just something everybody can relate to.
I think that humanizes it.
I think that makes it from a clump of cells into a baby.
unidentified
You know, if you want to get stopping a heart, you're stopping a life.
And I mean, maybe there's a maybe there's a stream of consciousness before that.
I don't know, but that's exactly the thing is.
I don't know.
I think that that's still a lot of theoretical science, and I don't think many people can relate to that.
So maybe there's something there if you're trying to say, hey, look, there's a stream of consciousness.
There's a vibrational frequency from a fetus at a week or whenever, then maybe you can bring that up.
But I think the heartbeat bill makes sense because if you're trying to get the ball going in the right direction and you're trying to do everything you can to have as little abortions as possible, but also realizing that being a political purist is not going to lead any victories, then to me, the heartbeat bill works the best.
And it just makes sense.
I just don't see how, I mean, really, force liberals to argue that you should be able to kill the baby with a heartbeat.
Like, you know, here's the thing with Republicans.
For some reason, liberals understand this.
Conservatives, Republicans don't.
I think we're starting to get it.
A lot of the reasons why liberals seem to have the upper hand is because the way they frame debates.
Like, why do they have Black Lives Matter?
Because they want you to look like a racist.
So it's not even about Black Lives Matter.
I know you get this, but the point is you frame the arena to your advantage.
So if the Republicans come in and they say, we're all for a heartbeat bill, we're going to do a heartbeat bill.
And then another rabbit hole I think that's going to be happening with the abortion line is I think they're going to be taking the aborted fetuses and zygotes from people from Planned Parenthood and using them as scaffolding for the new designer lab-made babies and reselling those.
And even I think they're going to take them also from Planned Parenthood and use them for the trans community that can't have kids naturally and modify them.
And it's going to be a whole new field, a whole new line of humans.
Like, you know, I think I was like, anyway, I live in, you know, out here in the east, you know, the eastern part of the state, and it's like, I never thought this stuff would come to us, to be honest with you.
I just really didn't.
I thought that it would be even my conservative boss with all conservative people working in this drilling company.
I work outside with maybe two people a week sometimes, and they were wanting to make me get the vaccine.
We fought them off of that.
But then even today, it's just so disappointing.
It's even coming here that I had to go to a special, like a hydraulic shop that's never closed for any of these dumb holidays.
I mean, to admit that the systems and everything you've trusted and believed in your whole life is a lie is not an easy thing to admit, especially if someone else is the one telling it to you.
unidentified
I feel like they know.
I mean, even his pastor sounds like he listens to Alex Jones and say he lives in, like, close to the mountains.
As far as the thing, I mean, I really think, I was actually the one who sent that little $5 thing, because I just think it'd be a really good idea if this would happen exactly that way where you have them for the debate.
If he doesn't, I mean, you got to understand, I mean, if he gets up into the millions of dollars and he doesn't want to do it for charity, they got to blast that part of it, that they should start that out with the conversation.
Really have Joe Rogan.
And I was thinking that maybe they would go back and forth and then debate each other.
And.
in person but if he doesn't do it like you said they need to have his name tagged there with a stand you know have a chair empty and then you can have JFK Jr. just go on for hours and just absolutely rip everybody you know you know people are going to tune in that's devastating oh 100% it would be totally devastating and for everyone and the whole thing is that guy screw that guy I mean it'd be for all of us and that would put the pressure on him to show up because exactly because exactly you're right if he
doesn't show up it embarrasses the whole system so now he has to show up they have their retarded talking points that they can that that he can use to where if they if he said it in a debate the leftist would be like yeah he's right so i mean if he doesn't show up i mean they got they got all the talking points i mean i don't understand why he wouldn't do it
well because you can't you can't do it because it opens up the debate and you can't have the debate that's why you can't do it because it opens up the idea that you can have the debate you're not allowed to have the debate these are totalitarians no debate no dissent but all he has to do is say that he's crazy just like they do on the news i mean i think there's a way that he could probably get away with joe rogan is not controlled this isn't cnn it won't work yeah but he can just spout his little
unidentified
eyes and say that you know you're you're you're he can just try to disprove everything i guess by saying it's not credible basically and that would be that would be better than not showing up i think i mean
well i i hope that rfk jr or joe are thinking victory here that's what i'm hoping i'm hoping they're thinking victory because the only path to victory this is a stalemate this is a draw if he does if he no shows or doesn't want to do it that's a draw but if you say we're having the debate and here's his seat at the table and he doesn't show then that's a victory if you open your twitter it's the only thing you see it was like 300 000 people you know hashtags and all i mean that's crazy oh it's huge alex rosen's video got like 10 million
views and it was a 50 second video of him just saying hey peter are you going to debate rogan are you going to debate on rogan and him saying no and the left panicked yeah he's smiling the whole video and then he goes on msnbc says i was harassed i'm the victim he was smiling and laughing with rosen the whole time
it's ridiculous hey they can if they can blame those target bathrooms on us the target bomb they call in you know well they didn't even try to hide that they just called in and said yeah i'm i'm a crazed deranged leftist lgbtq person put our propaganda back in your store i'm going to blow it up so they didn't even try to hide that the new yeah they didn't but the news was trying to say it was our fault i didn't say anything well everything's your fault, probably.
It's either you or Trump.
They got to blame somebody.
Certainly not them.
They're not responsible for all the violent crime.
They're not responsible for the gas prices.
They're not responsible for the war.
You're responding.
You did that.
unidentified
I just thought that they were going to use all these weaponizations of Trump and just trying to make him look bad.
Water Poisoning Risks00:13:34
unidentified
I never thought that.
I mean, honestly, it's crazy that they've done this.
I mean, I don't think that people really understand how bad it is.
Purchasing chemical runoff and putting it into the water.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
So I feel sorry for anybody that thinks they can just go and jump in a lake and have fun and all that good stuff.
Hey, more power to you.
But you're going to have some serious health risks.
You're going to have some really serious health risks because the majority of the water that they're getting comes from our lakes that they funnel to everywhere.
Don't look at it like it's just coming from Ohio River or this river.
These are man-made lakes that they are putting up.
So those nice lakes in Kentucky that the people like to go boat on and everything, that's the source of water that they're poisoning?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
And they're drinking.
Yes, sir.
Bashir Lake, Bashir Lake in Kentucky gets over 50 million liters of chlorine and over 750,000 milliliters of dude.
This is bad.
And this is water that the water company is siphoning off the lake to put into everyone's drinking water.
Every school, any place you go that has a public water fountain or think of your schools or YLCAs that just has a water fountain there, you're drinking that.
I don't think people are really getting the ramification of what I'm saying.
Yeah, and most of these treatment facilities, I mean, they're old facilities.
They probably don't even have cameras or nothing.
unidentified
It's not that they don't have cameras.
They have cameras on the outside, but on the inside, they have them in certain places to where the actual company can see the actual worker doing their job.
No, it's really just it's a matter of what Rogan and RFK are thinking at this point.
Do they really want to take this to the finish line?
Do they really want to see this to the end?
Or was this just a nice hype session and they've already moved on to the next thing?
My guess is, unfortunately, it's just a hype session.
They've moved on.
But if they really want to see this thing to the end, they should, and they should have the debate anyway, whether Hotez shows up or not, or maybe they get somebody else to do it.
Because this is the Achilles heel.
And even though Rogan is not a, he's not a political fighter.
He's not trying to fight any political battles.
He tells it like he sees it.
But the issue here needs to be the debates and the fact that we don't have these debates and all these issues are being used as excuses to infringe in our lives.
Like you need to take a vaccine.
You need to fight climate change.
And they use these things to interfere and intervene in our lives.
And it's time to say, no, you're not going to interfere and intervene in our lives with these things that you won't even defend in a public debate.
unidentified
Yeah.
I know I've monitored True Social.
I haven't seen anything.
Just anybody talking about it, you know?
Or I mean, I've seen probably some pulses from Infowars and stuff in the war room, or Gab even.
I mean, I don't maybe on Gabby.
I should probably get a gift sometime tonight and see.
You know, on the mainstream, on the mainstream media, they're not really interested in the vaccine issue for obvious reasons because they are funded by Big Pharma.
So they don't want the debate out there.
Yeah, you're not going to see that on a cable news network.
unidentified
No, no, no.
I guess I've probably met in more of the conservative media, you know, the underground like Musemax or something, but I don't know.
Who knows?
I mean, I just wondered, you know, most people in media.
Most people in media don't like to talk about other people in media because they view it as like a competitive thing.
That's not really how I've ever approached it.
In fact, not only do I not view it as a competitive thing, I actually look at myself as a media aggregator.
I want people that you don't want to look at news for 10 hours a day.
So you can listen to me for an hour or two or three and get 10 hours of news in three hours is what I try to do.
But that's kind of getting off the track.
The point is the reason why most people don't talk about it, why you're not seeing it anywhere, because they don't really talk about other people in the media.
They look at it as a competitive thing.
And they're never going to talk about this on the mainstream news because they're funded by big pharmaceutical networks.
And the gig is up.
They don't want RFK to win the Democrat primary, so they can't give him any promotion.
unidentified
I wish he would.
You know, I wish he'd collaborate.
I wish he'd make it through.
I know it's a long shot.
It probably won't happen.
I was always going to think about it.
It'd be cool at least if RFK won the nomination and Trump won the nomination.
The Bears might be having to move stadiums, which would just be a real travesty.
But there's so much crime.
But in that area, it's so nice.
It's what a shame.
Just Democrats just destroy everything.
Big shout out to Big Red Farm.
We only have the one call in line, though.
I know you're asking if there's any other ways to communicate with the show.
Only one call in line.
I do read the chats as you see the super chats here.
But the call in line, this is the only way if you want to have your voice heard.
I don't know about these other things you're talking about.
So I can't really help you there.
But phone number, you know, calling from an encrypted number or, I mean, you can even get like an encrypted number on the internet if you're really trying to get on.
Like, we have another caller on the line right now.
If they would lie to you about ivermectin saving your life from COVID, would they lie to you about the cure for cancer?
Would they increase the reasons and the ways that you get cancer with the dyes, the fluoride, the acids, this, that, the other, the 5G?
If they would create COVID, why wouldn't they create cancer?
Because if you look back in the 30s and the 20s and the 10s, people used to travel, doctors would travel all over the country to try to find a heart patient so they could study it.
And now they're everywhere.
So what I'm saying is, if they would lie to us about COVID, lie to us about Tuskegee, lie to us about all these other things.
Washington, I believe they're suppressing the cure.
In fact, I would say you're going the right direction.
They're probably causing cancer, knowing it, and suppressing the cure.
Absolutely.
unidentified
That's where that's me.
That's where I'm believing.
And I'm looking at the alternative stuff.
And I suggest everybody else says, I mean, learn how to treat yourself because the doctors aren't going to treat you.
They're going to do what big pharmacists do.
And look, I just, I'm not a doctor and I get advice, but I've gotten off blood pressure medicine just by switching to Himalayan salt and learning what lime juice does.
There's all kinds of stuff like that just sitting out there for all of us to just be happier and healthier and they just keep it from you because they don't make money off of it.
We got all kinds of problems with the Texas GOP, but you are bringing in a, this is heavy lifting.
You're asking me to do some serious heavy lifting in the final seconds of the show, and we're going to have to just, we're going to have to put it off.
We're just going to have to, we're going to have to put this off.
You know, I go from the steak dinner in my earphones to the, what are we going to do about the system of fathers and mothers and divorces and child care payments?
Oh my gosh.
I'm just, oh boy.
I don't know.
As a professional broadcaster, you just got to know when to call it a night.
Sometimes you just got to know when to call her a night.