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Jan. 25, 2023 - Owen Shroyer Live
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OSL 8 - Rumble Goes Down; DDOS Attack, So I Go Live On Rumble
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Can you guys hear me now?
We're having all kinds of technical issues trying to get off tonight.
Hopefully, you guys can hear me now.
It says that you're getting audio.
Let's see what's going on here.
Okay, we got it figured out.
All right, you got to bear with me here.
I logged on as quickly as I possibly could.
And so we were dealing with some audio issues.
Should I just reintroduce the entire show?
You know, Twitter used to have this feature where you could skip ahead and you could make the video start at a certain time if it was if it was on your uh if it was if it was on your account.
So I'm just going to hit the reset button and let's hope that that is still the case.
But it's funny because we fired off with about three different technical issues.
And the whole purpose of the show tonight is, of course, Rumble going down.
So I'm going to address that.
Resetting the show.
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And I get home from the studio today and I log on to Rumble and I try to watch the most recent Dan Bongino episode.
And it's a no-go service unavailable.
Can't get anything on Rumble going.
Say what's going on.
And Rumble puts up this tweet 30 minutes ago.
Update: Rumble is currently under an unprecedented DDoS attack.
We will update here as we learn more.
And so naturally, I said, Well, I'm going to go live on Rumble and address this, being all too familiar with it, of course, at InfoWars.
So here we are, and we're going to discuss that and monitor this situation as we're getting updates.
And I'm assuming right now, since we have fired up the live stream and I am seeing your comments that Rumble is at least back up in some operating capacity, if not all operating capacities, but we are good to go, at least on this live stream.
So we're going to be monitoring this and also talking about the updates in the Russia-Ukraine situation, which I'll be more informed on tomorrow when I host the war room.
But there's some things I'll address here tonight.
But before we go into that, let's address the elephant in the room here, which is, of course, the glasses.
And I'm a little upset because I don't think they look very good on camera because you can see the reflection here.
And that's just not a good look.
And I don't want to keep my head down like this because it's better to keep it up like this, actually, especially when you're looking down all day.
But it's not a gimmick.
It's actually the blue light glasses.
You may be familiar with them, but I was staring at screens for a lot today at work.
And of course, I always am when I'm in the studio, but got right back on here less than an hour after.
And it's just trying to protect the old eyeballs.
But it kind of looks, it really looks hacky on camera because of the reflection issue.
So may just probably just going to ditch these things and just burn, just let the eyes burn.
So just a bad look with the reflection there.
Oh, and then you guys don't think the reflection looks bad.
And then I'm, you know, look, I'm going to get into the Trump issue, Trump DeSantis.
Really, I mean, still, DeSantis hasn't officially announced, but it's kind of like everybody's expecting it at this point.
And I'm going to get into that tomorrow with a guest I have on the war room.
But one phenomenon that I'm noticing, and it's bad right now because the Republicans have kind of turned off the fundraising, but the Trump campaign is really just kicking up the fundraising.
And so I'm really getting sick and tired of these emails from Donald Trump because it used to be the Republican Party during the primaries or excuse me, during the midterms, begging for money using Trump's name.
But now it's Trump asking for money as he's about to run for president.
And it's just obnoxious.
And it's like big donations.
And it's just, you know, so we're going to get into all of that.
But I just want to see what's going on here at Rumble.
Considering that everybody here is able to stream this, I'm assuming they have it back up and running.
I don't know about full capacity.
I'm going to do a little check here myself.
See if we can't just do a check here in live time.
But like I said, let's see what we got here.
We got the Shannon Joy Show.
Looks like this is running fine.
Archived episode.
All right.
Rumble, you know, I got to say, Rumble really is doing well.
There's some behind the scenes stuff on the producer end, let's say, that they need to work on.
There's some operating system stuff, search engine stuff.
So it looks like it's back up and running, Rumble, that I think they need to work on.
But I think they have a vision.
I think they have the right idea.
I think they have the right vision.
And obviously, you know, we'll see what we find out about this DDox, DDoS attack tonight.
But obviously, there are people that want Rumble to never make it to be anywhere near YouTube.
And I don't know if it could ever reach that point, but it can at least get to a point in an operational capacity where as a consumer or as a producer, it basically mirrors for all intents and purposes what YouTube has been able to do and accomplish and bring people in on.
So you know that there are people that would love to see Rumble fail.
And I am not one of them, of course, because they allow me here.
And I think they have the right vision.
For example, most companies, if you are going to be trying to make money through them, and that's like acting as a medium, are going to make you go through a Stripe payment processor.
Well, Stripe has been known for its bans and its censorship as well.
And it's ironic, and I just know this because I'm in the industry that Stephen Crowder's dad, I think it's Steven Crowder's dad who made it.
I don't know if it was originally Steven's idea or his dad, but I've talked to his dad on the phone about his company Shout out.
And I agree with Crowder.
I'm not going to get into the personal stuff or the comments made and all the fallout, but I agree with Crowder on the issue.
We shouldn't be anchoring ourselves to big tech.
But in a way, if I want to use Shoutout and I get Shoutouts, I have people that request shout-outs from me.
I have to get that money through Stripe, which has censored us in the past.
So I'm anchored to Stripe there, and I can't get the money out.
And I don't want to.
I don't want to pay that extra tax.
So there's issues we need to work on as conservatives.
There's uniform things we need to put into practice as conservatives in media.
And I think that Rumble is doing the best job as kind of a framework and a layout of what that's going to look like.
Now, obviously, Infowars and Band.video is like out on its own.
It's the mothership that needs to be self-fulfilling, self-fueling, floating out in space.
But with things like Rumble, where eventually Rumble, I don't know how many users are on Rumble.
There are going to be a million people on Rumble.
Someday there might be 100 million people on Rumble.
And they'd like to fulfill that.
So they can kind of be the framework of what the next YouTube or what just an open platform for users to log into and do live streaming or whatever it is.
They can kind of set the framework of how it's going to be laid out.
And so Rumble also with on locals, you have to go through Stripe to get that money.
But I talked to the people at Rumble today, and when I brought up the issue, they said they're working on different ways.
They're going to diversify basically how they pay you out.
And there's going to be a multitude of options there.
So that's kind of the framework.
That's kind of the model.
That's kind of the example, the blueprint, if you will, that Rumble can use as a video streaming platform.
Because to me, it's the closest thing to the ease and accessibility and audience size of YouTube.
And I've discussed in the past, I've discussed in the past how, you know, I decided that January and February, I was only going to be doing this show on Twitter and on Rumble for different reasons.
But that after February, I may branch out to Odyssey or some of the other platforms that are out there, Getter and other things.
But to me, Rumble has been the closest thing to mimic what YouTube was able to do and accomplish on all different levels that's out there right now.
And yes, there's Brighteon and there's BitChute and there's all these other channels.
And so to me, the issue is I want to, and I kind of agree.
Who was it?
I think it was Ivan Rakeland maybe making this point with Alex the other day, or it was somebody.
It was the first person I heard actually argue the point that has been my intellectual stance for a while, but I was kind of already in the situation being at band.video, which was you really want to concentrate your audience into one area.
And it's kind of a give and take because you need marketability and you need to reach as many people as possible.
But at the same time, centralizing your audience is so much better for a litany of regions you can imagine.
So that was one reason.
Plus, the more outlets I live stream at, the longer it takes for me to go to breaking story to live on air.
And the difference might just be five to 10 minutes, but yet five to 10 minutes of having to get all the different broadcasts set up.
It's easy right now.
I'm basically one click away.
Twitter is streamlined.
Rumble, you have to go to a custom one.
Odyssey, you'd have to go to a custom one.
Getter, all of these alternative platforms are all custom ones.
I think Rumble's ahead of the pack.
My guess is that StreamYard, what I'm using to do this, that's on a promotional plug, is eventually going to add Rumble.
Rumble is getting to that level and Rumble will be at that level.
Now, one thing I've noticed, and I'll maybe have to follow up with this tomorrow, but I do think at this point, and it could be because of user numbers, it could be because of the technology.
I doubt it, but the Getters live streams actually are higher qualities than Twitter.
The difference is Twitter, I would argue that Twitter has a bigger audience and it definitely does.
But since I'm shadow banned there, I actually get better, I would get better numbers on Rumble.
But it's a balancing act.
The point is Rumble can be the example of a video platform.
I think it's leading the way at least for a video platform to mirror Twitter.
And there's still a lot of stuff that they're going to have to do.
It's amazing.
I sit here and I'm like, how can nobody do this more efficiently?
But I'm not on the tech end of things.
I'm more on the visionary side of things.
So sometimes it's harder to make visions come true than the visionary might think, not understanding the tech issues.
But let's see if there's any update on the Rumble situation.
But see, another thing Rumble is doing, which is smart, it's getting unique content that's popular on the internet, like the slap power slap competitions, which are now going to be exclusively on Rumble.
Dana White helped make that possible.
Oh my gosh.
So I guess the Royal Rumble is this weekend.
It's actually in San Antonio.
I was thinking about going, but I'm not.
I'm going to be on the air Sunday.
But because the Royal Rumble, it's all the tweets.
If you search Rumble, like all of the tweets are about the Royal Rumble.
And I want to figure out what happened with Rumble and what the DDoS attack was about.
But I can't find anything because all I'm getting is Royal Rumble stuff.
I'm going to have to find the official Rumble account.
So it's still the last we've seen here is the same thing I showed earlier.
Rumble is currently under an unprecedented DDoS attack.
We will update here as we learn more.
No updates.
We'll go ahead and give them a follow.
No updates as of now with Rumble.
There it is.
PowerSlap.
So I think Rumble's doing the right things.
And what you need to do, see, they need, and I think Rumble is doing this at a certain level.
It's kind of organically happening, but the voices that need to be heard are not the executives and not the marketing team.
And really, to a certain degree, not even the money people.
The influence on these platforms and how it's rolled out need to be from the creators and the consumers, of which I'm both.
So the easier you make it to access and the easier you make it to get payments, the better off you're going to be.
You don't want to go through a payment processor.
And really what you should be doing is you should be W-9ing the content creators.
You should be giving them a W-9, making them sign a W-9 so they don't have to worry about taxes and then connect their bank account, or they could even use a card if they wanted, or anything.
They can use whatever they want, but you should W-9 them and you should make sure that on your end, there's no payment processor involved.
That's what needs to be the format.
Because the minute you go into a payment processor, you're at somebody else's will and the content creator is getting taxed again.
You don't want to deal with this stuff, especially considering what the left and the Democrats are trying to do with the FBI.
If you don't see this trap coming, how many content creators actually know?
How many people that are making money on the internet actually know?
I couldn't even make a guess, but how many content creators making money on the internet actually understand how taxes work or are actually paying their taxes or could be setting themselves up for a situation in the future where if they get audited, they owe money because they weren't paying taxes on what they were coming in.
So you have to create a situation for the content creators to be as streamlined and stress free as possible.
Put them all on a W-9 and allow them to do direct deposit, put their bank account.
In fact, I would even actually make them do that.
I mean, if people wanted options, then they could have options, but that should be your go-to.
W-9 them so that they're not paying taxes and then direct deposit.
Direct deposit.
No payment processors, no leftist big tech getting involved, no more middlemen, no more taxes.
Because I'm telling you, I guarantee you, a lot of these content creators making money on the internet are not paying taxes.
And what a beautiful situation that the IRS commies don't even have to dig.
All they have to do is go look at the people on the internet making money and with a simple inquiry, find out if you're paying taxes on that income or not.
Especially if that's your sole source of income and you're not even on the IRS's records, you're going to be audited immediately.
Immediately.
So that's one thing that Rumble needs to do.
Now, I probably will just start testing with other places.
I mean, you could have it go into your LLC too.
It wouldn't matter.
That would be up to you.
It's direct deposit, whatever bank account you put in there.
So, let's use Rumble as an example.
You want to make money on Rumble.
You sign up for whatever the deal is, whatever the account is, which needs to be streamlined too, but that's a back-end thing that consumers don't need to worry about.
You're going to submit a W-9.
And it's so easy because, okay, you think that might turn that might turn creators off.
That might turn people off from wanting to go here filling out a government document.
No, you explain to them with the W-9, you don't have to worry about the IRS coming after you.
That simple.
And now they don't have to worry about that.
You've got the most simplified, streamlined process to make money and not have to worry about a middleman, not have to worry about a processor, not have to worry about the IRS.
But that's just one example.
There's a lot of things they got to do.
And there's going to be a lot of obstacles through the course of this, like they are facing tonight.
But it looks like, all things considered, it really didn't seem to bother Rumble's operational capacity because it seems to be completely back up and running, but still no update from Rumble.
I suppose we can go into the comment section here, see what people are saying.
DDoS attack looks like the American government hates they can't censor Rumble.
Yeah, I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on.
Mike D'Anizio says, tell the Rumble people to talk to Tyler Bennett.
That's funny, Mike, because guess who's in studio tomorrow?
One Tyler Bennett.
Maybe I'll bring up this issue.
Maybe I'll bring up this issue.
Sounds like Rumble is on the rise and the haters have taken notice.
Right on the night of the Kyle Rittenhouse interview on Rikita Law, likely not a coincidence.
I wouldn't go that far.
Yeah, you know, I've thought about this.
I think that let's get ready to rumble.
So I think that Michael Buffer actually trademarked that because I'm thinking, wow, what an obvious because Rumble for a video platform, I'm sorry, but bad.
But okay, we can work through that with different marketing things and gimmicks and stuff.
Like, let's get ready to rumble.
But I think Michael Buffer trademarked that.
I don't even think you can legally do that in any sort of a commercial way.
Let me look this up because I was thinking about that.
Like, okay, I'm going live on Rumble.
I'm starting a Rumble channel.
I want to build a Rumble channel.
I want to do, you know, gimmicky marketing stuff.
Why not start the thing?
It's like, hey, I'm live on Rumble.
Let's get ready to Rumble.
But I think we might be entering some problems there.
Let's see if I'm remembering this correctly.
He did.
He has.
He has trademarked.
Let's put this up for you.
So, in other words, Rumble can't do any sort of commercial promotion and neither could I doing Michael Buffer's voice.
So, you know, I mean, that's kind of tough.
I mean, how do you do it?
What is he going to cease and desist or sue you?
But it's like, could I, I mean, I can go on YouTube right now and play probably a compilation of a hundred times Michael Buffer said, let's get ready to rumble.
Or I could find a soundbite and use that.
But I guess for commercial purposes, that would be, he could cease and desist me tonight.
We are going to witness the most anticipated match in the history of professional wrestling for the heavyweight championship over Stone Cold versus The Rock.
Are you ready?
I mean, what's the most anticipated?
It's like a sting mask.
Wrestling fans, are you Ready for the thousands in attendance and the millions watching around the world from the capital city of the United States of America.
Washington DC, say it, say it already.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's going to cut it off, isn't it?
This is a prank.
I wonder what match that was.
97.
Well, that's trademarked.
So won't be using that for any promotions.
But point is back to Rumble.
I do think they have the right vision, and I do think they have a good team of people.
And I know they believe in free speech.
So the DDoS attack, people are going to think is an attack on them because of that exact reason.
Because when you believe in free speech and you have people telling the truth on your platform, you get attacked by the deep state.
You get attacked by commies.
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That's got to be in the real Red Pill Plus.
You know, the big things that are going to give you the mental energy that you're talking about and the focus that you're talking about are the pregnanolone and the Herbamate.
So that's the combo that's in the real Red Pill that is doing that.
And if you haven't tried Brain Force Ultra or Brain Force Plus, there's Herbamate and a couple other things in there that might help you as well.
But I've always said this, and maybe you heard me say this on the war room about don't do the toxic pills for ADD.
There are natural supplements out there that can help you.
The real Red Pill Plus, Brain Force Plus, Brain Force Ultra.
So I'm glad to hear about that story.
So there you go.
Back into the comments section here on Rumble.
No update yet.
Oh, it happened to Gab yesterday, too.
I didn't know that.
Here's another person assuming because of the Rikita Rittenhouse interview.
But isn't Rikita still on YouTube?
I mean, he's probably on YouTube right now.
I mean, so, or did he switch to Rumble exclusively?
Let's see.
No, he's still there.
So I think that kind of rules out that theory.
Although, maybe he doesn't use this channel anymore.
No, he does.
So I guess that interview is coming up.
Maybe it's exclusively on Rumble Live.
Let's see.
We do know Rumble is back up and running.
Oh, so it either already happened or this is just the teaser video, I'm guessing.
So this must just be the teaser video leading up to the live interview, but he is still on YouTube.
So I'm not sure.
Not sure if they don't want you to see the Rittenhouse interview tonight, if that's why the DDoS attack happened.
I doubt Rumble is not close enough to where they need to be to not be able to handle that traffic that it might have.
Not Litz says, hey, Neo, with your expert opinion, do you believe Building 7 had sudden building death syndrome?
No, it actually just had a medical coincidence, is what it was.
It was a medical coincidence.
Probably caused by the weather or maybe eggs.
Maybe it was steak.
Are they going to blame it on Russia?
Are they going to blame it on Russia?
Maybe.
Just maybe.
But it didn't last long.
It didn't last long.
It was pretty much fixed about within 10 minutes.
And still no update from Rumble.
Unprecedented, unprecedented DDoS attack.
Yes, all too familiar.
No strangers to DDoS attacks, are we?
All right.
Well, we're going to wait and see if we can't get an update from Rumble here.
And we'll stick around here just for a minute.
And we can even open up the phone lines.
747-200-5560.
And let me put that number on the screen and we will go ahead and take calls.
Rumble got the situation taken care of with maximum efficiency and velocity.
These things can be tough to deal with, but they got it taken care of relatively quickly.
Now just waiting for an update.
But really, there's not much you can do as far as these DDoS attacks go.
It's hard to really find out.
If somebody has the capacity to do it and the will, they probably have the competency to make sure you can't find out who they are.
That's how that situation goes.
All right, let's go to the first caller here.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
My name is Mike.
New Jersey.
Mike in New Jersey.
What's up?
What's going on, Owen?
Oh, just, you know, I saw Rumble went down and I said, it's time to give Rumble some traffic.
So Rumble's under attack.
Let's give Rumble some love.
The deep state is exactly Rumble.
Yeah, that's, I mean, you know, that's naturally what people are going to think.
That's naturally the first response from people.
We know what's going on.
My first question I got for you was with Hamlin.
Yeah.
The Buffalo football player now.
Oh, yeah.
I was watching that live during the pregame and how they pulled up the court right to the window and then just let him in.
I thought that was weird.
And then when they had him in the box, normally when they have in the box, it's all white and then they show the person, you know, he looked like he was a competitive from South Park, you know.
Yeah.
And look, I've tried not to go down this rabbit hole too much publicly just because sports and athletes I handle a little differently than the politicians and the media.
Plus, I've been in situations before.
I've seen situations before where, not just in sports, but other situations where it's like there are people behind the scenes that do know what's going on and we probably don't.
And anybody, you know, theorizing about this, you know, ends up looking stupid.
But here's the simple bottom line.
The whole presentation of DeMar Hamlin is certainly suspect, certainly plenty of reasons for people to be skeptical and ask questions.
And I, you know, I think what I think what really kind of holds this together as legitimate, forget about, you know, conspiracy theories.
You know, here's a guy that got like $15 million to his charity.
The whole, the whole country praying for him.
He was the focal point of the media for like a week and everything.
And then it's like this whole presentation, like state level security guards, like blocking cameras, won't show your face, hood over the head, mask over the face.
You're supposed to be on oxygen.
You're supposed to be on heart monitors.
So, I mean, look, there's plenty of reasons for people to question.
And it's really just so crazy, you can't even believe it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Here's number two.
It's like, here's like a weird question.
Do you believe in Bigfoot?
Are you being serious?
100%.
No, I'm not a Bigfoot guy, but we did.
We did do a bit where I'm the big Bigfoot guy.
That was a joke.
That was a comedy bit.
I'm not actually that into Bigfoot.
Okay.
Yeah.
I have another one for you.
I got if you have for a commercial when you get back on Twitter, right?
Just hear me out, man.
So you have Alex Jones, right?
He's in space, and he has the clouds underneath him.
And he goes, Go forth, my son.
And he's talking to you.
And you are Jesus, right?
And you're wearing the white robe and the sandals, you know, with the long hair and the beard.
Right.
And then you go down there and you go, you had you walk on water, you know, and you'd be like, you feed a man a fish or teach a man to fish, you know.
And then you have Harrison as Moses, right?
And then you have him as the, he goes up to the mountain with the burning Bush, you know, and Alex yelling at him, going, do not mutilate children's generals.
Do not do drag time story hour, you know, and you could have a whole list of it.
And then like the next one would be Harrison going, he's part in the Rio Grande.
And then he walks to the end of the Rio Grande and they have all the illegals coming through and he's, and then the whole river just collapses out of them, you know.
And then always on, always on the cross, you know, when they when they stab you in the uh ribs, you know, with Jesus, you know, they go to put you in the shroud into uh into the cave and they and they put the uh stone over the cave, but then this the stone rolls out and you come out.
You're like Chappelle doing Rick James.
He goes, I'm back, bitches, from Twitter, you know.
Everyone in this room is now dumber.
Oh, I think that would be funny.
It's too much, man.
It was too easy.
It was too much.
I had to.
I had to, I had to hit you with it.
I'm sorry.
It's going to happen around here.
It's going to happen around here, Mike.
I appreciate your call, though.
I really do.
I got to show you something, though.
I got to show Mike something here because this is what I'm talking about.
I'm going to go to this clip.
I just found it because I was searching for the Hamlin compilation of all the different times they showed him on camera, or rather, didn't.
But this interview, apparently, from Jake Allen has just gone live.
I just saw it.
It just got posted.
I'm seeing it now.
And he's, of course, responding to that.
So here it is.
So Newsweek, New York Post, and other outlets are running stories about a DeMar Hamlin conspiracy theory in which people are suggesting that he was not at the game on Sunday and that it was some sort of body double conspiracy cover-up that he goes on and on and on into the tinfoil hat territory.
Would you like to debunk that conspiracy theory or maybe confirm it?
Yeah, that's that's stupid.
That you said main, like there's mainstream media outlets pushing this.
There's mainstream media outlets.
There's people with like really legitimate, heavy followings who are saying the fix is in that was not DeMar.
His face was covered.
He had sunglasses.
He had a hat.
When they went to him on CBS, you couldn't see him.
And that there's this next level conspiracy that that was actually not DeMar Hamlin at the game.
They're saying it.
One, that's DeMar's swag.
That's what he likes.
He likes wearing that.
Two, he was in the locker room with us pregame.
So yes, that was Damar.
There's absolutely zero chance.
There's absolutely zero chance.
That's be DeMar Hamlin.
That's our guy.
That's our brother.
He was with us pregame, post-game.
He was up in the suite with his family, his little brother, 100%.
So people need to stop.
I got it.
Stop it.
All right.
Now, let's just address this for what it is.
Again, I haven't seen that yet, but that's what I'm saying, folks.
So that might be true.
So now you're going to have to call now.
You're going to have to call Jake Allen a liar if you don't think Hamlin was there, if you believe that.
So now, now, okay, here's a player who's come out and said we saw him.
He was there.
So now you're calling Jake Allen a liar, too.
And so that's what I'm saying.
I'm just not ready to go down that road yet.
But Again, they don't really address the problems that people are having with the whole presentation of Hamlin.
So they don't, so they don't really address the actual issue.
And it's obvious that Jake in the interview isn't, he has no idea about it either because he's like, well, what are you talking about?
I don't know what you're talking about with Newsweek, what?
Mainstream media.
So, so he kind of gets that question spurred on him.
He might not even realize any of this is going on.
Now, again, you might not believe Jake Allen.
You might think the whole thing is that now he's a liar.
But you know, I'm pretty sure, and I don't even know how I would find this.
Maybe I'll pull up his Twitter account, but that's a Kyle Brandt, who also goes on NFL Network.
And I'm pretty sure that he's a big lib, like big lib.
I could be wrong about that.
I don't really watch NFL Network, but I'm pretty sure I've seen him doing some of the lib stuff.
I know I see it on NFL Network, and it might not be him.
I could be wrong about that.
But I know there's guys on there doing lib crap all the time and mainstream media, you know, gay crap, racist crap, crying when Aaron Rodgers doesn't take a vaccine.
And I, you know, I don't know if it was him or not.
I can't remember.
I'm looking for anything I can find on it, and I can't.
So, again, I can't for sure say that that was him.
But okay, so there's so now Jake Allen has officially come out and said that it was that DeMar Hamlin was at the game.
And as far as I can tell, this is the first, this is the first just statement saying that.
So I will be drafting for in that.
So there you go.
Now, do you, do, do you think, do you think that's a lie too?
How many people are going to be in on this?
You know, but that's why I said I'm never going to, that's why, I mean, I literally just said, I don't want to jump to conclusions here because we don't know what other people know and what's going on.
But again, there's fair questions to be asked.
None of them addressed in that segment, that clip, none of them addressed.
And it's just, it's just fair questions.
People have reason to question.
People have reasons to be suspicious.
You know, so why can't we just ask questions?
So there's your address.
Does that satisfy?
Will that satisfy the internet masses?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
I mean, do I really even want to tell you what the real conspiracy theorists are going to be responding to this?
Because I know what the conspiracy theory to this is going to be.
Of course, it's going to be that Jake Allen is in on it.
Of course, that's what they're going to say now.
So just be careful not to jump to any conclusions that may make people think you're completely stupid that actually do know what's going on.
But again, the questions still remain.
And here's what other people are saying too.
And again, it's just a matter of where is the love when it's like you're hiding your face from us.
Where is the love?
Where is the smile?
Where is the joy?
Where is the happiness?
Wearing the face mask, wearing the hood, hiding your head, looking down, leaning down for pictures for the camera.
The massive security makes it look like a WWE staged event like Stone Cold and Vince McMahon coming into the arena.
Like, what is up with all of that?
Is this a marketing gimmick?
Is there a power play here?
Is there a money play here?
These are legitimate questions.
Even I'll sit here and I'll say, DeMar Hamlin was at the game.
That was DeMar Hamlin.
Okay.
Why the Shaden Freud?
Why the mystery?
Why the things that just don't make sense to us?
There's something going on around here that just don't add up.
There's still legitimate questions.
So, so, no, I will tell you, the conspiracy theorists will not be satisfied with that.
Now, this clip that I shared here didn't really get viewed, but people saying, I can't believe you asked him the question.
I'm glad he asked him the question.
Are you kidding me?
Now, oh, but see, oh, it'll be staged, though.
It'll be staged.
So they're already saying, oh, did Alan really see him?
Was he really in the locker room?
Proof he was in the locker room.
Now, I will say, again, folks, I've been following this just out of curiosity.
Like images like this, they were sharing, but they were from a different ball game.
I don't know if this one specifically is from this recent game or not.
But notice he's got all the branding now.
All the branding there.
The NFL should be paying billions for making him get the vaccine, probably.
Oh, but we won't talk about that.
But they'll say that this was staged.
They'll say this whole thing was fake.
They'll say Josh Allen is in on it.
Oh, they told him he can win a Super Bowl if he goes along with this.
I'm just watching this now.
I'm just doing body language analysis.
This is actually something I do here.
You get kind of this little behind the scenes stuff of how I approach news clips and media and stuff.
I'll watch a clip with no audio and do a body language analysis.
Let's do it.
Let's just do it together.
We'll do a little body language analysis here.
Do you think Jake knows the question right now, or do you think he's curious?
What do you think?
I think there's still, I think that's genuine curiosity.
Maybe not.
Maybe he knew.
Yeah, I'm not convinced.
I'm not convinced.
I'm not calling Jake Allen a liar, but I'm not convinced by any body language there.
No, that doesn't really do anything for me.
But no, I'm glad that Kyle Brandt asked the question.
How could you not?
I mean, it's been one of the biggest stories on the internet.
And that's also kind of why it's like, really?
Did Jake Allen really not know about that?
Really?
Like, he didn't know about that?
Could be true.
I don't know.
Maybe he doesn't get on the internet much.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Going back to the replies.
Yeah, but see, but this is what it comes down to.
I believe in most conspiracy theories because we get lied to about everything always.
Yeah, I mean, that's the problem we have.
Nobody can believe anything anymore.
They lie about COVID.
They lie about vaccines.
They lie about Russian collusion.
They lie about everything.
So, you know, I mean, we're just lied to 24/7.
But I mean, think about it.
Yeah, I don't know if this is real or not.
I would doubt it.
Think about it, though.
What, like, at this point, you're doing a gimmick.
At this point, you're doing a gimmick to not show your face, to do the mask, to do the Shaden Freud and the cover-up and the head down and the clone tweet.
He put out a tweet where he just says clone and he's staring down.
You know what?
And I'll just be honest about the whole thing because the problem that people are having now is that this rubs them the wrong way.
Here's a guy who people poured their hearts out for, poured their money out for prayers out for, took the nation by storm, and now we're getting trolled.
We're getting rickrolled with the head down and the mask and the secrecy and the security.
Like, oh, I get state level security.
Like, I get blocked out.
Don't look at me, but hey, I'm alive.
You're a conspiracy theorist if you don't think so.
No, I think that it's not just legitimate questions that people have with the presentation.
I think there's a whole nother vibe to this that's rubbing people the wrong way.
That's really too bad, isn't it?
But see, no.
See, here's the problem with somebody like me.
Here's the problem with somebody like me, where the hands, if you will, of my mind, the grips of my mind are calloused and hardened.
I don't fall for gimmicks.
I know propaganda when I see it.
Just because you say Black Lives Matter, you're a racist if you don't agree, uh-uh, doesn't work here.
So, so that's, oh, oh, don't question anything.
He had a heart attack.
Don't even question anything he ever does ever again.
He had a heart attack.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That doesn't work here.
No, no, no.
But oh, oh, this is not the conspiracy theories here are not going to stop, ladies and gentlemen.
The conspiracy theories are not going to stop now, ladies and gentlemen.
No, no.
If anything, that video is only going to make them worse.
I've been through this before.
I know how this stuff goes.
Whether or not whatever the story here ends up being, it doesn't matter.
I know how this stuff goes.
This is not going to put it to rest.
This is going to add more to it, is what this is going to do.
And you know what really built this?
This is a real tweet.
You know what has really, you know what has really fueled this, though?
You know what really fueled this?
It wasn't, it really wasn't the presentation of DeMar Hamlin during the game on Sunday.
It really wasn't the face mask and the ski mask and the hood.
No.
No, what really fueled this was all the vaccine side effects, all the cardiac events and professional athletes, and then that happening to an NFL player on the field, dying on the field, and nobody allowed to talk about the vaccine, nobody allowed to know about the vaccine, and that whole cover-up.
That's what really brought us to this moment.
That's why we're really here.
So don't be mad at the people that don't believe the stuff we're told anymore.
Don't be mad at the people saying, I don't think that was DeMar Hamlin.
Don't be mad at the people questioning the presentation of Hamlin at the game on Sunday.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what got us here.
What got us here was the vaccine cover-up.
What got us here was thousands of athletes having cardiac issues post-vaccine, including young ones.
That's what got us here.
And then whatever it was that happened on Sunday just really brought all that energy of the mystery and the cover-up back to life, but with a new breath of life.
And maybe that's what it is.
Maybe it's to do this whole different distraction.
Look over here.
And then they hope nobody's talking about the vaccine anymore.
It's why is he acting so weird now?
So, so this ain't going away now.
All look, Brandt did the right thing and the smart thing asking the question.
Whether it was predetermined or they all planned it out or anything, who knows?
He had that question.
He asked it.
Alan answered it.
I see nothing from the body language to make me think he knew it or didn't know it.
It all seemed very neutral.
Kind of looks like he's just there checked out, just trying to finish up an interview.
Whatever.
But if anybody thinks this is going to end the conversation, wrong.
Wrong.
Man, now they got Josh in on it too.
How deep does this go?
Is Epstein involved?
Elvis, Tupac, man.
That is so, so this thing ain't going away anytime soon.
No, it's not.
Not anytime soon.
All right, Liberty Eagle back in the Rumble chat.
What are my thoughts on the whole Pence having classified documents?
When does the next liberal logic come out?
We got a lot of things in the coffer.
I don't know when the next liberal logic comes out, but we do have some good and some fun things coming out soon.
Pence having classified documents.
We played the interview of Pence being asked about classified documents last year and he choked up.
So he knew he had those documents.
Why they're burning him now, maybe to take heat off Biden, considering Biden was VP at the time.
So maybe there's some sort of take the heat off Biden plan in place here, or this is just kind of how they blackmail people in the deep state.
It's like, oh, you hold these classified documents.
And it's like, okay, that's basically your blackmail is you're holding classified documents because Pence is probably a teetotaler.
You know, I don't think Pence is going to Epstein Highland.
I don't think Pence is going to orgies.
I don't think Pence is doing anything like that.
Pence is probably a legitimate teetotaler.
So how do you blackmail a guy like Pence?
You make him hold top secret stolen classified documents and you tell him you'll burn him if he ever does anything wrong.
So that seems like the most logical situation from my view on that issue.
So, but you wonder at what point in time, because at this point, the whole narrative is in Hamlin or the Bills camp, not even the NFL, trillion Hamlin or the Bills camp.
Really, I guess Hamlin, considering the Bills season is over.
So, really, the whole situation, the whole narrative is in Hamlin's camp now.
So it can be leveraged and used however they want.
So they could have put the whole thing to rest Sunday night.
They could have put the whole thing to rest yesterday.
They could put the whole thing to rest right now.
They're not, and they're not doing it for a reason.
What the reason is, I don't know, but you're not allowed to ask that question.
Don't you dare.
He had a heart attack, don't you know?
You don't say anything.
Oh, that.
Oh, that's oh, that's how you're going to get me.
Yeah.
How are you going to, how are you going to silence?
How are you going to silence the thinkers now?
All right, let's take a phone call.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
This is Bart Fine in Georgia.
Hey, Bart, how are you doing tonight?
I'm doing very good.
How are you?
I'm all right.
Oh, I'm sorry about the feedback.
The first thing that comes to my mind with everything that's being said is the bafflement circus.
What do you mean?
Just the Congress.
It's just like pure evil.
It's like Satan is putting on a surface in front of us, right in front of our eyes.
Yeah, I mean, nothing new there.
I was just wondering, have you ever heard of a thing called the busman's holiday in New York City bus drivers?
Busman's holiday?
Yeah, it's when on their day off, the bus drivers were required without pay, I might add, to take off their uniforms and go ride on a bus for free from the perspective of a customer.
Okay, I've heard about that, actually.
Yes.
And then that kind of tactic ended up being used in different training scenarios as well.
So why do you bring that up, though?
Well, you know, because, well, you got off of work and you're back on there.
Just a bad joke.
Well, there it is.
You finished the joke.
Well done.
You got to laugh.
That's all that matters.
I caught the number and I didn't think I was going to get through.
Next thing you know, I hear you speaking to me.
But I'm very honored that you've had me on here, Alan.
Thank you.
Well, I'm glad you're able to get in.
And like I said, there's just one line.
So when you hear somebody hang up or you get through it all, you're going right through to the show.
So good to hear from you, Bart.
Appreciate all your support through the years.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Nothing still as far as an update from Rumble.
And I'm guessing we're probably not going to get one tonight.
Maybe they'll make a statement or something tomorrow, but the issues seem to come and go really quick.
But, you know, Rumble is on there promoting their new power slap competition.
So that's kind of funny.
We got it tomorrow night.
Road to the title airs tomorrow.
Tune in 10 p.m.
Eastern.
Rumble.
Power slap.
I mean, these guys sit there and they just slap each other silly.
Literally, and their faces become so swollen and bruised.
Oh, it's tough to watch, actually, as entertaining as it is.
It's crazy, actually.
Because, again, you should see the faces.
But smart on Rumble picking it up.
Smart on Dana White helping get that done.
So I like that.
All right.
That is going to do it for tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
Thanks, everybody, for tuning in.
We did it, though.
Good for Rumble.
You guys survived a big DDoS attack tonight.
And I basically Stress tested, stress test, if you will, how quickly Rumble can respond.
I saw the tweet.
Rumble says we're under massive DDoS attack.
Rumble was down.
And within 20 minutes, I was able to get up on the air on Rumble and do this live stream.
So good job, Rumble.
Way to go.
Good for you.
Mike D'Anizio says I should do live play-by-play on the PowerSlap tomorrow night.
Yeah, that would be something.
That's not bad.
They might allow me to do something like that, you know?
All right, guys.
Peace, love, good night.
See you tomorrow.
Oh, I got some special stuff coming tomorrow.
Be on the lookout at band.video.
Big stuff happening in Austin.
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