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gillian turner
Fox News has confirmed the Justice Department is now investigating whether crime data in Washington, DC was manipulated to make it look lower.
David sponsors the DOJ this afternoon.
David, what can you tell us about the investigation?
david spunt
Oh, hi, Jillian.
Two sources briefed on the probe tell us that yes, the Justice Department is investigating whether or not someone or multiple people may have manipulated crime data when it comes to Washington, DC crime statistics.
This investigation is being run out of U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro's office here in DC.
Also, Maine DOJ, where I'm sitting now and talking to you, also has a hand in this probe.
Again, these are just allegations.
President Trump mentioned something about it yesterday on True Social and said that there is an investigation underway.
Then we were able to confirm that as well from two independent sources.
I will note if you go on the DC website, Jillian, it says violent crime has fallen twenty six percent from what it was last year.
But we asked after seeing a report from a local affiliate here in Washington, DC that a police sergeant was put on leave.
We asked MPD said that they could not confirm the existence of an investigation, but not many other details other than to say right now there is a DOJ investigation into the possibility that some of that crime data was manipulated to make things look actually safer than it was.
rob dew
Wow, are we surprised that people inside working the levers, little clockwork elves are messing with the numbers.
Does that surprise us at all?
Here we have out of NBC news, Justice Department is investigating whether DC police manipulated crime data.
The Justice Department is investigating whether Washington, DC police manipulated data to make crime rates lower.
Two senior law enforcement officials confirmed to NBC News.
The probe comes after NBC affiliate NBC 4 last month reported that Metropolitan Police Department commander Michael Pulliam was suspended and put on leave in May after the department began investigating him for allegedly altering crime data.
Of course, Pullman has denied these allegations over on Fox News, DC, and this is from Trump on a true social post, quote, DC gave fake crime numbers in order to create a false illusion of safety.
Trump posted a true social on Monday morning.
This is very bad and a dangerous thing to do.
And they are under serious investigation for doing so.
Until four days ago, Washington, DC was the most unsafe city in the United States, perhaps the world.
Now in just a short period of time, it's perhaps the safest and getting better every single hour.
People flocking to DC again, and soon the beautification will begin.
What is that beautification?
Well, part of it is his war.
He's going to have a war on what was it?
I had it right here.
His war on graffiti., our graffiti, here it is.
From Infowars, Trump declares war on DC graffiti.
Graffiti left untouched to scar public places, spaces is a visual declaration of society's surrender, Trump says, says Trump advisor Stephen Miller.
So they're going to be removing this, putting it back up and then rebuilding these spaces.
If you look at that, you can look at all the curs words on there.
Here we have Stephen Miller saying, I moved to Washington, D.C. 20 years ago.
I've seen graffiti on some of our landmarks that has gone unremoved for decades that is now being cleared away.
And what does that take?
A power washer and some elbow grease, as they say?
I mean, it doesn't take much to remove graffiti.
And there's more tweets in this article.
Look, there's one full minute of graffiti just in Union Market.
If you guys want to pull that up and show people as B-roll.
Thus far, dozens of graffiti sites across the city have been scrubbed away.
Clean, homeless encampments are being leveled in halls.
hauled away so you can just see it's you know and while some of this I think is is is uh is fairly nice art there's a place where you should make it so not not on people's buildings without their permission um you can watch the train cars go by.
I was watching one with my kids the other day and they're going, why is all that writing on there?
I said, well, that's what people do.
People think that the, I guess, the world is their canvas.
And while I like a good mural on the wall, you know, it has to be done the right way.
By the way, I'm your host, Rob Due, sitting in.
We're going to go over more malfeasance of the Dim Tard party and the way they manipulate statistics to make their lame arguments seem somewhat justified.
We've got more coming up.
Plus, I got an amazing interview.
I'm going to tell you about all next segment.
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Welcome to The War Room.
It's Tuesday, August 19th.
I'm your host, Rob Due.
Thank you for joining us.
If you were with us last segment, we were talking about the breaking news that the Justice Department is investigating whether DC police were manipulating crime data to make the city seem safer.
I've been to DC many times.
I actually have an interesting story about a lost cell phone where I did get it back, but this was during the Trump administration and not during the Biden administration when things just went to hell in a hand basket.
But I was I had gotten out of a car.
I had two phones and I left one in the car and I tracked down my Uber driver.
And this was during one of the CPAC was in DC at the time and I tracked down the Uber driver and went to his house.
He told me where he lived and it was literally like the DC ghetto, one of these project areas.
Everybody was nice though.
I didn't have any problems, but I'm also, you know, 6'3 and I look a little imposing, especially when I'm wearing the red shades.
So I got my phone back and there wasn't a problem.
But now I don't think I would have ever seen, you know, the person again or, you know, maybe got carjacked on my way to go find the phone.
But what does that have to do?
It has to do with the way these people get in these underlings and they go, well, I'm going to take it my own under my own gumption and I'm going to start.
modifying statistics to make things work out in our favor, because our arguments are DC is safe.
So we're going to show that the crime numbers are fine and that Trump is not justified in doing what he's doing when anyone walking around, I mean, even some of the newscasters last, uh, last couple of weeks when Trump was doing this were saying, yeah, I got car jacked, my friend got car jacked, we got mugged.
You know, all these stories coming out.
They beat up big balls, uh, for trying to defend against the car jacking.
So there's all these stories that come out and they're like, oh, no, no, DC is really safe.
The crime rate's 26 percent down.
Well, here's another example.
The local news publishersishing this, reservations plunge across DC restaurants after Trump's police takeover.
Online reservations dropped more than 25% in the days following President Trump's announcement that he was federalizing DC police according to open table data.
And then let's just look at the open table data right here.
They show it going up and down, up and down, up and down.
And then here, President Trump.
And then you can see it starting to shoot down already because all the crime.
And then here is where he implemented his, oh, we got to stop this.
You can see where he stopped it.
And it drops a little more.
And now it's bringing back.
up and then it's got a little bit of a dip and then somebody in the comments I posted this on X, someone said, Oh, next week is restaurant week.
It's going to really boost up then because people it's the momentum shift.
The momentum has shifted of people going, Hey, we can't hang out in DC at night because we're going to get mugged or our car is going to get broken into.
And now that's changing because you put some cops on the streets, they're seen and that stuff changes.
And this also, let's look at another story that happened this year.
Trump defends, lie, defends firing labor statistics chief by lying about her role in 2024 campaign as it happened.
So he defended firing Erica McIntarfer.
I don't know where they find some of these government people.
They always have weird last names.
In Tarfer.
In McTarter.
Erica McIntarfer, the Commissioner of Labor Statistics, falsely accused of having released reports just before the 2020 election that overstated the jobs created by the Biden-Harris administration.
And that's why she got fired.
She was trying to make Biden look better right before the election.
And then Trump wanted to see some of the bad numbers come out before the Fed meeting so they would lower the interest rate and she held on to those.
So it had nothing to do With her messing up the numbers with Trump, he didn't care what the numbers were.
He wanted to put them out sooner so we could see a drop in the interest rates because that's how he can refinance the debt that's going on and save us a bunch of money.
That's why he keeps saying we're losing billions of dollars because that's what we're paying on interest.
Now, if they lower the rates, then we can refinance some of that debt and not pay as much money on it.
But, you know, at this point, it's all fake paper money anyway.
But let's continue with the lie that is coming out of the Democratic Party.
DHS official fires back at Newsom's press office, catching them in a lie blaming Trump for illegal alien with a California driver's license and Biden work permit killing three in a semi-truck crash.
You might have seen this video.
It's an Indian driver.
He's got the head scarf on.
He's making an illegal U-turn.
And it looks like an SUV plows right into the side of the trailer that he's hauling.
And then I guess two other cars hit it.
But several people die killing three people in this crash.
So they posted, let's see, do I have their tweet?
Where is their, they posted something blaming Trump.
And I have Trish McLaughlin's response.
I don't see their tweet.
The driver identified as Haringer C was arrested and charged with three counts of vehicular homicide after making an insane U-turn directly in front of a car on Florida's Turnpike.
And I thought I had the other tweet here, but as you can see, this desk is quickly becoming unattainable.
You guys have it there.
That's the Trish McLaughlin tweet.
I have that one right here.
Anyway, she said three innocent people were killed.
And I have a clip we're going to go to where she actually says.
This guy tried to get a work permit when Trump was in office because he came in in 2018.
He was denied.
Then a few months into Biden's term, he gets in., he's able to get a work permit and then he proceeds to kill three people making an illegal left turn.
Maybe he couldn't even read the signs or maybe he just didn't care.
You know, I guess some rules they get to follow, some rules they don't.
But here's that clip with Trish McLaughlin, it's very short.
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This individual who is in our country illegally from India, he applied for a work authorization to the Trump administration.
That was denied and about nine months later It was denied.
It was denied.
Once the Biden administration came in office, about nine months later, it was accepted.
john roberts
An illegal immigrant who entered the United States back in 2018, now facing charges in a deadly collision.
rob dew
But if you look online, people are saying, oh, look, he came in under Trump.
He came in under Trump.
They're trying to now they're trying to own like that it's okay that illegal is murder if they come in under Trump or they're trying to like that's a gotcha somehow.
We've been saying, hey, hey, don't let these people in.
Don't let these don't give these people jobs.
Especially don't let them become truckers because they can't read the signs and they don't follow the rules.
And who knows what they're doing out there.
So now there's talk of putting ICE and Border Patrol at some of these way stations where they have to pull in and look for some of these drivers.
And I bet if you talk to the average truck driver, I made a documentary about trucking many, many years ago and these guys were all about honest work, honest living.
Some of them were a little more crude than the others, but these guys went out there every day and they saw themselves as part of being part of America delivering products that people need.
They were very conscious of the fact that every day they delivered things you need and they were very cognizant of the fact that you wouldn't have toilet paper if it weren't for truckers.
So we saw toilet paper rear its head or the need for toilet paper rear its head in the 2020 lockdown.
So there, here we have the shot right there.
There's the car plowing into the side where he just dis decided to make that U turn.
And you can see he doesn't seem very concerned that he's killed three people.
Not at all.
And blocked up massive amounts of traffic because when these accidents happen, they just lock everything down for a long time.
Here it is.
Here's that.
From the Governor Newsom Press Office, hey Genius, the federal government, Trump administration already confirmed that this guy meets federal, state and immigration requirements.
You issued him a work permit.
As usual, Trump administration is lying or clueless.
So they say just because he came in, he was able to get this.
But that's not true.
And then that's what Trisha McLaughlin replied back with saying no, they were killed.
He was given the work permit in California and it was after Biden was in office.
So that's always been their plan to replace people.
There's an interesting tweet.
I don't know if it was from Tim Poole or from Elon, but Tim Poole said, you know, the population collapse is the biggest problem.
And Elon says, I've been talking about this for 20 years.
other people like Alex Jones have been talking about it for a lot longer.
But instead of...
If you look up in Dearborn, Michigan, you've got tens of thousands of Muslims marching in the streets claiming they're not getting enough of the American dream, whatever they think the American dream is.
So instead of creating an area and creating a system where people felt comfortable and felt safe, we created the exact opposite.
And in fact, Elon pointed to us a 20-year-old study that had been done maybe back in 2005 that Los Angeles, which was the most diverse place, had the place where people trusted least the government and their communities because it was too diverse.
Because when you get too many different peoples, it's like the Tower of Babel.
Nobody understands each other, so nobody trusts each other.
Everyone thinks, you know, you walk into a convenience store and they start talking in another language, well, you're thinking they're probably talking about me.
That's what you're thinking.
So yeah, there it is.
Oh, good job, guys.
The population is not collapsing.
It has collapsed.
The shoreline is receding and nobody understands this.
And then Elon says, I've been warning about this since the turn of the century.
And if you scroll down, someone posted something about the study that I was just referring to because I read that this morning and said, oh, this would be great to bring on the show today.
And then I ended up getting caught up in editing Alex's Howard Lutnick rant yesterday because when Alex Jones says, hey, throw some 911 clips in there.
Well, you can't just throw one or two.
You got to throw 50, 60 clips of people saying they heard explosions, several versions of Larry Silverstein saying we pulled, pulled it and let it go.
Documents, eyewitness testimony, Barry Jennings, the late Barry Jennings who has worked his entire life inre life in Building Seven, knew the building front down, heard explosions under his feet before the buildings even collapsed.
He actually, when he gets out of the building, he looks up and he sees both the towers.
So they're saying, Well, Building Seven was hurt by one of the buildings falling on top of it.
No, it already had the bombs going off in it, and that's, well, who planted these bombs?
Oh, well, there were people up in those buildings before.
We know most of them were probably Israeli agents up there doing their nasty, you know, because they wanted to bring us into a war.
That's part of the deal.
When you're, when you're dealing with some of these people.
They want to take the might of the United States and take the eye of Sauron and put it at their enemies and then their enemies become our enemies.
So, yeah, there's a there's a little compilation of nothing to see, just a third building falling on 911 that they rarely ever talk about and in some of these you can actually see the top roof part collapsing and and Barry Jennings final words in his final interview before he died a few weeks later from some fast acting leukemia or something.
He said, there's no way that building collapsed from the towers and he said, There's no way it was a boiler, because that's what they said.
It was a boiler that blew up that caused it to collapse.
He said, There's no way that happened.
And he was an emergency manager.
He had been dealing in these situations for years.
So, uh, here we go.
Are you curious?
Howard Putnam made it clear twenty years ago.
He's a Harvard leftist political science and showed that diversity destroys social capital and trust collapses.
Low trust equals low birth rates.
The data was broad and rock solid.
Diversity destroys social capital everywhere and always.
Couple this with mass immigration that flooded the nation with fifty million foreign workers since 1990 while only thirty two million jobs were created.
Wages stagnated as inflation was insanely increased via ZERP.
I guess that's some indexing of inflation imports and offshoring kept the consumer from feeling, kept the consumer from feeling too suddenly, but over time, the broad prosperity of many Americans enjoyed disappeared, setting aside our social services dependent underclass who reproduces to get on these programs.
And you see how people just reproduce less and less and less and less.
Or you could watch the intro to idiocracy to see all that.
But so it's kind of interesting, you know, free fall collapse of our country due to mass immigration and the promotion of diversity and the free fall of building seven happening at the same time.
I'm looking okay I got eight minutes left I was trying to see what we had so let's go to this story oh first before we get to that I want to tell you about our guest coming up at four o'clock Dr Mary Talley Bowden will be coming on she's got a book called Dangerous Misinformation.
That's also the name of her substack.
She's going to be on for an hour and with Americans for health freedom dot org.
She's out in Houston, Texas, and she'll be Skyping in.
We're going to talk about Ivermectin becoming possibly over-the-counter available in certain states.
It's already available in two.
I know Tennessee's one of them.
And then how to detox yourself.
We'll talk about her book and what's been going on with getting the COVID shot.
Right now, it's still being approved for babies six months old and up.
So we're going to talk about those fights.
We'll talk about her book.
And also, we're going to take your calls at that time if you have any questions for her.
Especially if you've had any side effects from either COVID or the vaccine.
This would be a good time to ask your questions and get those in.
So that will be next hour, but let's go to this.
If you remember the story earlier in the year about April or May, it was a Kentucky sheriff who goes into the chambers of his friend judge who he has lunch with, their buddies.
They see him all the time and he pulls out his gun and shoots him.
And they can't figure out why.
They think it may be have something to do with his wife or his daughter.
This is the sheriff's wife or daughter may have had an inappropriate relationship with the judge.
But now we have from News Nation a video that has appeared and I found this this morning from a young lady on X who seems she was on this story early on.
So I've been following her and getting updates on this, but she kind of goes after a lot of people in the local area.
It's interesting these local things that go on because you see it everywhere.
You see big time corruption in the United States, up in the federal government, and then you see this small time corruption going on here.
And she said it's officially news now.
Judge Kevin Mullins was having sex with inmates holding their lives in his hands and even taking their kids away if they didn't comply.
Tell me that's not coercion.
And then she talks about human trafficking and other stuff.
But if you're interested in this story and where it's going, Samoca Huntis has the skinny on her.
She seems to be a local in the area and is going digging deep.
But let's go to this News Nation video and we can hear from a witness who actually had sex with the judge at his invitation to help smooth things out.
Here it is.
unidentified
Normal, but I just want to make sure I understand.
So the judge would have sex with inmates from the jail.
Yes.
And you saw it.
Yes.
I was part of it.
I was one of them.
And not just from being in jail, but coming in from the street and seeing them.
Yeah.
How did they keep it a secret?
It wasn't a secret.
Wasn't a secret.
Why did you feel like you had to have sex with the judge?
Because he's the one with the power.
He holds my whole life in his hands.
He's the one that makes the decisions over whether I get to keep my children or not.
He's the one that makes the decisions on whether I go to jail.
rob dew
Did anything ever happen to you in jail?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I mean, because you talk about having sex with the judge, but that was mostly when you were out, right?
Trying to avoid.
Yeah.
Did the judge ever say you have to do this or if you do this.
You come, you come see me three times and we'll take care of this.
If it's a ticket or something, you know, or you get some minor charge, some petty charge.
Come visit me a few times, we'll take care of it.
You would say that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And how many women do you think were also doing this?
Total over the years, hundreds.
Yeah.
And not just for the women who had charges.
Like if your man or someone or child is in there, then you could go see him for that too.
rob dew
A judge was an equal opportunity employer, I guess.
He'd take, you know, if your husband's in jail, you could come get him out.
If you're going to lose your kids, you could help keep your kids.
If you were in jail, you could maybe get out.
I mean, is that just disgusting or what?
That's a judge.
That's supposed to be the highest authority, I guess, in this county.
Or if he was a, you know, he could have been a local judge, but you see this going on.
These people have been there for years.
They know the system.
You got the judge.
You got his buddy who's the sheriff.
They're probably doing something not good either and I'm sure something at some point is going to come out that both of these guys were doing dirty and one of them just went too far.
I think you're going to see it was the judge going after the sheriff's daughter and or the wife.
It seems to be the wife is sort of like almost guaranteed but probably his younger daughter and you know that was it.
He went in there.
They looked at their phones.
They did something with the phones and then he pulled out his gun immediately just executed him.
And so that's where that's where that's going.
Why are you pulling?
I mean does that look like a nice guy?
Does that look like a guy we can trust?
And it's no wonder people have zero trust in their government because we've got these corrupt officials doing stuff like this.
We've got a corrupt federal government just blowing money out the wazoo.
And people are left just trying to survive.
And their only recourse is to put videos on TikTok that they can't pay for school supplies or can't pay for bills or groceries.
And these are middle class Americans who are being hit with all this.
And it took a long time for us to get here.
You can see that study that we were, that tweet that I was reading earlier, the study the guy was looking at.
information from the 90s.
Well, probably started a little earlier.
I think you could track it back to when we went off the gold standard and things have slowly declined since then.
Then there's been many factors.
It's not just been one factor going to war, spending trillions of dollars.
We don't need to be spending on fighting wars, on fighting more wars, on keeping the military industrial complex popped up, on importing massive amounts of illegals.
So it just keeps going and going and going.
But this is my message.
It took us 40 years, 50 years to get to this point.
It's not going to turn around in one Trump administration.
I can tell you that.
he can start.
You know, you play the game shoots and ladders, you start at the top.
Well, we hit that one shoot that takes you all the way down to the bottom and we're starting all over again and we're trying to get back up because we we had a little bit of momentum.
We had a little ladder.
Oh, we'll draw a little.
We'll draw.
Yeah, let's let's let's show this.
So we got the game shoots and ladders and you're trying to get to the top and there's there's slides and there's ladders.
Okay.
Well, we got up a ladder with Trump right here and then we got up to here with Biden and went all the way back to here.
So now we're back here and now we're trying to get back and now we're starting to go up the ladder again and hopefully hopefully this stuff can change.
I don't know if I trust all these rhinoceroses implicitly.
You know, I hear that there's going to be investigations.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'll believe it when I see some perp walks.
But I'll tell you this, don't expect the government to belly out on anything.
You got to look at yourself in the mirror and figure out a way to fix your situation, whether that's to get together people who are like-minded and pull your resources and decide that you're going to, you know, team up to either own property or do many things.
There's many ways to skin a cat.
If you want to own property, find a few people that you trust and get together and build something.
You know, it's a lot easier to build something too with three or four people.
than it is with one person doing it alone.
You know, it's start growing your own food, start buying from your local farmer, start spending more money locally, start using cash.
You know, these in Texas, I think they made it illegal now to say they won't accept cash.
And there's places around here, there's food trucks you go to and they're like, well, we don't accept cash.
Well, now you have to because cash is legal tender.
So there's a lot of ways to do it, but this is not going to get better overnight.
You have to be patient, but you also have to hold people accountable.
And that's what we do here at InfoWars.
Thanks for watching The War Room.
We'll be right back.
Well, I don't know if I submitted this bumper music, but this is one of my favorite Jeff Beck songs.
And I would if I was asked to submit a song for bumper music, it definitely would have been one like this.
Show headline, Putin Zelensky summit in works as territory concessions confirmed by Trump and Zelensky.
Tune in now and share this link that's at InfoWars.
You can also find it at Owen Schroeder 1776.
This is the link to share out of the live stream that will continue for 24 hours until the next show.
Because that's, you know, that's something Alex pioneered many, many years ago when I first found InfoWars.
Actually, I think I first heard Alex on the terrestrial radio., but then he kept talking about his website.
So finally, you know, back in the day, you could only get on it by a desktop computer.
And so I typed in Infowars and found a site with lots of news stories about everything that was interested in going on in the world, all kinds of different stories.
And if, you know, you go, you find one of the old, old version of Infowars, you could just scroll and scroll.
So I hadn't been to this site in twelve hours.
You could just scroll down and find where you let off or ended off and and go through it.
But he had on the right hand hand side a 24 hour audio stream that you could always get you'd boom, you hit it wherever, you know, the show was at that point, you would know, hearing the old bumper music and stuff like that does bring back pretty interesting memories.
But so we have, you know, Zelensky saying he's not going to give up any territory, not going to give up any territory.
But we have a photo.
I don't know if you guys were able to find it, but if you want to pull that up, it was on, I posted it to Alex's X yesterday.
And yeah, there's a, there's Trump showing Zelensky, hey, look, see, so this is some territory you're going to have to give up, you know, because way you were just killing these people indiscriminately, not allowing them to speak Russian.
And then when they defended themselves, you started, you know, shelling them and bombing them.
And so we're going to give this land, which has been historically Russia to Russia.
And if you look at the other things of why, a lot of people don't know why, you know, this war really started.
And it hadn't...
Russia's invasion was...
That was what the Eastern Bloc was a barrier between NATO.
And slowly they've been absorbing these countries.
I think Finland also, I don't know if Finland became a member of NATO recently or they're talking about it, but that's on Russia's doorstep as well.
So all these things was what caused Russia to go out and say, you know what?
We're going to come back and we're going to just take some buffer zone.
So I think what you're going to see will be wherever the lines are now, whatever territory has been created, there's going to be a demilitarized zone.
And that's going to be, I guess you could see the map right there, at those red areas at the edge of that, between the red and the white, there's going to be a demilitarized zone, probably have a lot of mines in it.
And it's going to be a no man's land.
And then there'll be a couple of pathways through it to have trade.
And hopefully, they decide they want to become economic partners and we move beyond this because, you know, making a tractor is just, I think, just as profitable as making a tank.
So maybe we can see more tractors being made, less tanks being made, less drones being made, because the drones are only going to be used to attack us and surveil us.
But that's what they want.
But you can see it right there with where they're looking at taking some of Ukraine's territory.
There may be some Russian territory given up.
But I think you're going to have also security guarantees from what they're talking about is Article 5 like security designation for Ukraine.
Article 5 is if you're a NATO country and you get attacked by another country, then all the NATO countries will come to your aid and bomb the crap out of whoever did something to you.
So that's why Russia was always careful not to do anything to a NATO country.
But then we saw Zelenskyy shoot some missiles into Poland, which would have triggered that.
But luckily, people went and looked at the evidence and there it was.
It was actually US made weapons.
So, you know, there is.
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that.
rob dew
But so we have this summit going on.
Trump actually set it up today.
We have a short video of him that he set up the meeting.
He really is the man of peace.
He said he's not going to be fighting making these final decisions, but he's going to get the two people in the room to make the decisions and he's proven that he's done that.
There was also another clip.
I don't think we have that where he said one of the European leaders said, Oh, let's get together in a couple of months and revisit this situation.
He says, couple of months, no, we're going to do this Monday.
We're starting now.
You know?
So he had he had he had he's going to have Zelensky and Putin meet and he's not screwing around he's going to make it happen.
So here's Trump talking about how he set it up.
Here it is.
donald j trump
So we're setting up a meeting I sort of set it up with Putin and Zelensky and you know they're the ones that have to call the shots we're we're seven thousand miles away in all fairness you know we have we've spent through the previous administration 350 billion dollars.
Europe has spent a lot also 100 billion but it should be reversed if we should have been in for anything but it wouldn't have happened so that would have been much better because so many people died.
This is the biggest.
This is the biggest bad situation since World War two.
There's been nothing even close.
rob dew
There it is.
And when that leader said, well, we'll come back in a month, he goes, forty thousand people are going to be dead in a month.
You know, and these European leaders don't care.
I think Europe, they've always fought wars.
I think war is in their DNA.
They love to fight wars.
They have, they like nothing better.
The French and English have nothing better than invading each other over time.
And then they found a, find a united enemy in Germany.
But you just look at what's going on.
They want to have a war economy.
They want nothing more than that.
They're talking about uping their NATO spending.
It was two and a half, which most of them weren't even paying.
And now Mark Ruta has got them up to five percent.
And that's still not enough because now they got to feed weapons to Ukraine.
But we have breaking news also from earlier in the day about it's a couple of hours old.
Trump says no boots on the ground in Ukraine after Russia peace deal, just air support.
So there will be no boots on the ground.
You have my assurances.
There will be no American troops stationed in Ukraine.
I'm just trying to stop people from being killed.
And that's from President Trump.
He told that to Fox News probably in that same interview.
There's a lot of good clips out of that was a phone interview.
And then we have this, Patrick Halle put this out.
President Trump hits it handing over Ukraine's security to Europe.
So just letting Europe fund this and be the banker of it, and we could stop spending our money.
Like if Europe wants to blow their money on this and do excess security, I think once you get a peace deal, I don't think Russia's going in.
I think Russia just wants some assurances that they'll never become a NATO nation and that we're never going to moveove missiles any closer.
And I think if they get that.
So it is sort of a three-way peace deal between Ukraine, Russia, and then NATO.
NATO as a whole kind of representing all of Europe.
And with their little basket case kind of probiscus over here is Zelensky.
And people might not even know the basket case reference there.
See if you all can find basket case.
You guys probably don't even know it.
You're so young.
Great movie came out in the 80s.
But yeah, Ukraine is like the basket case part.
So it just sits there and, you know, grows and wants to be fed and wants money and wants all the pleasures of life but doesn't want to do any real work for it.
And then Russia.
So you've got these three parts coming together to come up with a peace deal and it's going to be hopefully a long lasting peace and we move on from this because this has been going on since what Alex Jones called it back in 2022.
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That's it.
rob dew
There he is.
There's Zelensky right there.
No Putin.
No Putin.
Yeah, there he is.
So that is what NATO carries around with them now to use as a as a weapon of war.
So great great movie from the 80s if you're into like really bad horror comedies.
Yeah.
You're feeding me hot dog.
So that seems to be moving in a positive direction, although you wouldn't know it if you watched the mainstream media because all they want to do is say, you know, oh, he said there would be a ceasefire.
There wasn't a ceasefire.
This is he rolled out the red carpet for Putin.
Can you believe he had a red carpet?
You know, he they were in Alaska at a at a at a at a at a base in Alaska, not exactly five-star accommodations, but he is getting it done.
Another thing some people in our government seem to be getting done is where are all these poor kids that have been brought from other countries?
Grassley exposes Biden-Harris regime.
for dumping 11,000 migrant kids with unvetted strangers, no home checks for 79,000 children under 12 according to new HHS data.
Now, I thought it was a lot higher than this.
So I'm looking at this and I'm seeing if there's a timestamp on it.
And this looks like between 2021 and 2021 and 2024.
So basically what they do is they dump these migrant kids with people who aren't vetted.
That means they have no background check, no nothing, and they don't know where they go.
And then they don't follow up with other ones that they send kids to.
So they send a kid with a family and then they never go, hey, how's this kid doing?
Is he doing okay?
Because they go, well, that's not in our job description.
All right.
Why is it in your job description?
And how do you get that in your job description to follow up on children that we're just placing with people in the government?
You know, you have CPS that wants to go around and sniff up people's butts at any type of, you know, they get a phone call report from somebody.
Well, they got to launch an investigation, but for these kids doesn't seem to be a big deal.
So this, this was at a gateway pundit.
I mean, I think we need to see.
I would like to see the amount of people that they're using to deport people to find to take that same amount of people or split.
That group in half.
And so you have the same amount of people looking after unvetted children, lost children.
I guess we could call them lost migrant children and where they're at and what they're doing and either.
get them reunited with their families or get them back to their is he behind me?
Is Zelensky behind me now?
Oh my God, brush your teeth, Zelensky.
Disgusting.
Oh, hey, I almost forgot too.
I mean, we got we got more Trump assassination news.
New York woman was in DC attending far left anti-Trump rallies before her arrest for threatening to disembow and murder Trump.
And what's interesting is the picture here on the front that that's not Kathleen Turner.
That's who is that?
Representative Rosa Delorio, otherwise known as the the Sea Hag.
So she's with her.
There's another picture of her with some guy named Dusty Lacan.
I've never heard of him, but he has a big gold chain.
So I'm assuming he's a rapper.
I don't know.
A little lunch with Dusty Lacan before I remove the entire Trump administration.
Wish me luck America.
So this is what women's lib and feminism has done.
These women actually think they're going to kill the president now.
Here's from a Facebook post she wrote on August 6.
FBI, okay, let's say you have an elected official.
Maybe you are an American citizen and let's say you have rights and would like to be represented.
Perhaps you place a call to that individual's office.
Perhaps you comment on social media.
Perhaps you email the office on a web form.
Feeling unheard, you protest somehow.
Here's where we are.
I literally told the FBI in five states today that I'm willing to sacrificially kill this POTIS by disemboweling him and cutting out his trachea with Liz Cheney and all the affirmation present and you did not come to my home this way at all let's deal with this and restore domestic tranquility So look, what is our limit of the First Amendment?
What do you need?
This is insane.
What do you need for me to remind you, the Supreme Court of the United States, that we will not be.
terrorized by leadership by invoking the Second Amendment.
I'm not just trying to say don't kill people en masse necessarily.
What do you hear?
Let's finish planning this arrest and removal ceremony now.
Immigration and customs enforcement knows that this country isn't going to continue with cruel and unusual punishments.
Deportation is not cruel and unusual.
Department of Homeland Security knows I have to defend my AARP patients who have been terrorized and will not be induced into a psychotic hysteria nationwide to die by this administration.
So please have the Woodlawn Field Station for my father's family, Chris Babadir from Los Angeles, NYC FBI for writers, San Diego FBI for guys who want blow jobs, CIA nationwide.
Now it's getting nonsensical, but can't show up for the marriage of a real sober and Chicago FBI from my beloved home of 15 years to all come to the White House.
Now let's be coordinating this arrest for DJT's terrorism on the American people.
And she still has this up where, you know, Facebook hadn't gone after this now.
A couple of years ago, if you were going to say Ivermectin may help you out with COVID, well, you know, you got banned from everywhere, every social media platform because, oh, that wasn't proven science, but you know, you could say, hey, we're going to disembowel the president by cutting and cut out his trachea with Liz Cheney.
So implicating Liz Cheney on this.
And nothing happens.
And she had this up on August 6, but she did finally get arrested.
And I guess Janine Pirro announced her arrest of an Indiana New York woman who traveled from New York to assassinate the president.
Her name was.
Natalie Rose Jones, 50 of Lafayette, Indiana, was arrested in the District of Columbia on Saturday, August 16th and charged in connection with making a series of threats on social media and what she threatened to kill President Trump.
Now, what I'd be interested to know is did they track her?
How did they find her there?
Were they using the same technology they used to track Jan six people?
Because they saw this post, they leave it up so they don't, so she doesn't know she's being, uh, um, observed and, and, you know, in some way I'm like, well, do we want some of this?
Do we want people when they make weird social media posts to be looked at?
Do we want the FBI?
Because the FBI will show up.
Uh, a friend of mine who is Iranian just said something out, you know, he wishes there wouldn't be any war between Iran and the United States.
Nothing bad.
Well, he had two FBI agents come visit him.
And he's like, no, no, I'm peaceful.
I play didgery do.
I do art and make pottery and stuff like that.
And he showed them their stuff.
He even sat down and played the didge for them.
And I guess they left.
But we have a government now who is really looking at using what you post on social media.
And if you post the wrong thing, they are going to come look at you in one form or another.
But is that wrong thing going to be, hey, I'm for the Second Amendment or I'm against abortion?
You know, it depends on what administration is in office at that point.
And so that's why you have to have...
You have the First Amendment right.
This lady does have a First Amendment right to put this out, but by putting this out, she is getting the eye of Sauron looking at her and seeing what she's doing.
And somehow they tracked her when she was in DC.
I guess when she entered the cone of the, what would they call that?
They had a zone where they showed it was a New York Times map and they showed all the January 6 people and how they moved out throughout the day because they were tracking them from their cell phones.
So that's probably what they did.
They probably tracked her cell phone.
They're probably really good at this now.
And just because Trump administration is using this power doesn't mean it won't be turned over to the next group.
There it is, the palantir.
It's coming at you.
All right, we got about six minutes before our interview with Dr. Mary Bowden.
I encourage you to stay for that one.
Guys, if you all want to put out that tweet that she's coming up, we're going to be talking about detoxing from the spike protein out of your body.
We'll talk about her book and then the efforts also to get Ivormectin nationwide over the counter.
I think right now it's only in a couple of states.
Texas is actually one of the things they were supposed to work on in this session and the last session was making that over the counter and then all the Democrats fled over the redistricting and they're also going to talk about, you know, of course giving Texans property tax relief, but we know that's not going to happen.
We, you know, they did something a couple of years ago that was like a drop in the bucket and they're like, see we helped you.
And it's like, no, they didn't help us.
It's disgusting what they do here.
Just ask anybody here who's a property owner.
But let's go to this story.
A.G. Bondi is furious.
Why is she furious?
Because they let somebody, I guess, escape the country who was caught in a child sex sting.
A.G. Bondi furious after a senior Israeli official arrested in Vegas pedophile sting is released and flies home.
So I guess now if you get busted and you're from another country, especially Israel, you could just fly home.
No big deal.
No big deal.
And then, you know, I think he might have have gotten fired.
They put him on leave.
A liberal district attorney and state court judge in Nevada failed to require an alleged molester to surrender his passport, which allowed him to flee our country.
The attorney general just called me outraged.
She also called the director FBI, Cash Patel.
But what are they going to do?
Like you, like federally, you could put this guy, see, and so what they're trying to say is.
This was a judge, a local judge that didn't take his passport away.
You could put this guy on a list.
I don't even know if I should.
I don't even know if I should tell this story, but we've had people.
Okay, I'll put it this way.
People that I know that have traveled with people at one point out of the country who were also became J6 prisoners.
Now when they leave the country, they get extra, extra, extra special treatment every time they leave the country and come back.
Every time.
Without a doubt.
So for the...
There's no way like.
No way, like immediately, immediately you get arrested for something like this, your passport should be taken.
And if they don't take it, then the federal government should step in and go, hey, we're not going to allow you to leave the country.
You should be flagged just because it doesn't, they don't seem to have a problem to do it for Christian conservatives, you know, or people that, you know, Alex Jones was not flagged for that.
But every time he leaves and comes back from the country, they were giving him extra special looks because since 2013 he had been looked at by the FBI.
He'd been investigated as a white extremist since December 2013., they've had him under investigation, a recurring investigation that had to get reauthorized every 90 days.
So every 90 days they go, should we keep investigating him?
Yes, we should.
So they just kept investigating, which kept him on a list.
And then, you know, and then you get, but hey, the Israeli guy who's going after kids, he just gets to fly home.
He just gets to fly home.
That's, uh, where's his full name here?
It's Tom Alexandrovich, who helps guide his country's cybersecurity policy and was representing Israel at Black Hat USA, a professional conference in Las Vegas when he was one of several people swept up in a major multi agency Sting operation earlier this month that targeted people seeking sex acts with minors.
According to court records, on August 6, the 38-year-old Alexandrovich allegedly committed a felony offense of using computer technology in an attempt to lure a child into sexual abuse.
That particular crime encompasses children under 16.
The next day, he posted $10,000 bond at the Henderson Detention Center.
As the news broke, the office of Benjamin Netanyahu reflexively denied Alexandrovich had done anything wrong, claiming that the employee who does not hold a diplomatic visa was not arrested and returned to Israel as scheduled.ed subsequently confronted with court records.
Israel's cyber directorate said the earlier false statement was accurate based on the information provided to us and that Alexandrovich was now on leave by mutual decision.
Well, I'm sure they had private planes flying out of there.
There was some interesting stuff.
If you look at Jan six, there were some helicopter flights that were going on that were people turning off their transponders along with guns that sounded like the type of guns you mount on the side of a helicopter.
And I think you had some Israeli planes flying in and out of there around then.
Definitely some Middle Eastern stuff going on.
A lot of weird stuff going on around October 1st, but we'll never get to the bottom of that.
The FBI made sure that we will never talk about this guy ever again, who probably didn't do anything of it and was probably on ice already.
Let's see.
We got 52 seconds left.
So I'm going to save the Carolyn Levitt questions going after the Trump peace negotiations.
We'll save that for the last hour.
We're going to be taking your calls.
I'll give out the call in number after the first five and we're going to bring on our guests.
Let's bring her in the first five.
Let's just start this thing off and go because I'm sure she's got a lot to say.
She recently, I think in June, did like a three hour.
hour podcast with Joe Rogan.
So we're gonna have a good time talking about COVID and Ivermectin.
Ivermectin is a great drug.
I've used it personally and have seen to its many positive beneficial effects.
So I'm all for making this over the counter.
It's almost impossible to overdose on.
So but we'll get the skinny from a doctor.
Don't take it from me.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't provide medical advice.
There's my disclaimer.
Stay tuned for the next hour of the war room.
You guys are killing it today with the bumper music.
I love it.
Metallica brings us into the second hour.
And also I'm gonna bring my guests on.
Normally the first five minutes we'll just play a report or something, but I think we've got a lot of information to get through.
And there's people watching us on X, watching us on our live stream.
Those who are on terrestrial radio may not hear this, but they can always catch it on the flip side somewhere else.
So my guest is Dr. Mary Bowden.
She's written the book, Dangerous Misinformation, the Virus, the Treatments and the Lies.
She's a Houston based autolarynologist.
I hope I said that right.
And she's helped over six thousand COVID patients stay out of the hospital, utilizing early treatment.
What's interesting, and I don't even know if she knows this.
I don't know if I told her this, but Dr. Bartlett, who introduced us via text, he's the one who helped me when I was stuck in Lake Tahoe with a really bad case of COVID stuck in a hotel.
I was out of my element and I called him up about the fifth day that I was sick.
I was hallucinating at that time.
He's like, You gotta do exactly what I say or you're gonna die.
And one of the things he prescribed for me was ivermectin.
And I remember going to the pharmacy and the lady who was Eastern European says, How do you get this?
I said, My doctor prescribed it.
She goes, This is what works, but they're not prescribing it just like that.
And I was amazed that, and this was a small pharmacy.
He said, go to a small pharmacy.
The big ones aren't probably going to do this, but it was ivermectin, an antibiotic that I can't recall right now, but the basic one, and then butesidide, inhaling that through a nebulizer.
And boom, in two days, I was like, back to stumbling around instead of being bedridden.
So, but welcome to the show.
Thanks for coming on.
dr mary talley bowden
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, Dr. Bartlett is amazing.
He got dinged for the medical board in Texas because he was calling it the silver bullet.
And he was, his name became famous because he introduced the Budecimide breathing treatments and those were a game changer.
And he was really the first to promote those.
And hospitals wouldn't give them because they thought that they would spread the disease if they gave patients something as simple as breathing treatments.
But Dr. Bartlett got the word out and then he got punished for it by the medical board.
I think he was eventually exonerated, but he went through the ringer for that.
rob dew
Yeah, I actually had to go to the hospital for a few days because my blood oxygen level was down to 72 and the little portable unit I had wasn't enough.
So I went in to get oxygen and he literally told me, he goes, don't tell them you're doing anything.
He said, just go in the bathroom.
Turn on the shower and do your breathing treatment in the bathroom.
And every time I go in there, I had to take off my pulse oximeter and they're like, what are you doing there?
I'm like, I'm taking a shower, leave me alone.
And it worked.
dr mary talley bowden
Isn't that?
Isn't that amazing?
You just sneak in your own breathing treatments in the hospital.
rob dew
Totally crazy.
And the doctor who came to see me, like offered me the vaccine twice.
He said, are you sure you don't want to get the vaccine?
dr mary talley bowden
I'm like, of course.
rob dew
Positive.
I don't want the vaccine.
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I go, why are you asking me if I want this?
dr mary talley bowden
So, and I posted something on X yesterday from the doctor Bartley gave me pictures of patients in the emergency room with plastic bags over their heads and half their bodies, COVID patients.
And this was in the emergency room in Texas hospitals in Odessa that he witnessed firsthand that that was their protocol is put plastic bags completely over patients' bodies who are still alive and breathing.
rob dew
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Some they tell you never to do, especially with a with a young child.
What's funny is the nurses would come in like, you know, space suits and they had breathers and masks on and everything.
And I wasn't even testing positive for it, but they but because I had it, they were like, oh, we have to, we have to maintain this protocol.
Yeah.
I mean, ridiculous.
dr mary talley bowden
Oh, yeah.
There it is.
rob dew
Yeah.
So, uh, we got about forty seconds left.
Why don't you give people just a quick, brief summary of the work you've done and then we come back, we'll really dig into this and get going because there's a lot to cover, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
dr mary talley bowden
Well, I'm just a breathing specialist in Houston, Texas, uh, independent doctor that sort of became known because I stepped on the toes of a major hospital, the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots, Houston Methodist Hospital.
Uh, they sort of made me famous because I started speaking out against what was going on.
rob dew
Um, well, that's what they do when you speak out., they come after you.
We're going to get, we'll cover the rest of this and go get into your book when we come back and take some phone calls.
Second hour of the war room has kicked off.
I'm your host, Rob Dew, my guest, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden.
You might have seen her earlier this year.
She did a marathon informational, very informational podcast with Joe Rogan.
which I think really opened a lot of people's eyes.
It's good when we're able to break through the matrix and get people out there who are real truth tellers, who are coming from a place of love and honesty and helping instead of lying and manipulating and being deceitful, which is what we saw all during COVID.
We saw them manipulating the statistics of cases and deaths and deaths by COVID and deaths from COVID and are from COVID and with COVID.
I think those are the two things that you had.
I mean, you know, people are getting shots and dying of COVID, and then the treatments that they weren't even offering people.
I've had a couple of friends die because they weren't giving any type of treatment.
They were just told to go home until you get really sick and then come back.
And then they got put on ventilators.
So it's disgusting what we live through.
We don't want to live through it again, but we know it can happen.
again.
And I'm going to give out the phone number now.
We're not going to take your phone calls till after the next break at the bottom of the hour.
1877 789 2539 877 789 2539.
Just calls about COVID in general or treatments or spike detox, anything like that, because I think that's where Dr. Bowden could really help you.
And with that, Dr. Bowden, I kind of cut you off finishing up your intro.
What is there anything else you want to add to that?
I know the establishment came after you for offering treatments, early treatments to patients because they worked.
And that's not what the purpose of it was not to work.
The purpose was to lock down society.
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, so I wrote a book called Dangerous Misinformation because that's what they accused me of spreading.
They basically said I was a threat to patients.
And it's, you know, ironically, I treated over six thousand COVID patients and everyone that received treatment early within that first week survived.
And I had a lot of patients come in to me in that second week.
That's probably where you ended up really sick is that second week.
And that's when patients really who didn't receive the early treatment or who had comorbidities or other factors really started sur circling down the drain and I had patients come to me who just refused to go to the hospital and normally I would have sent them straight to the emergency room or even called an ambulance because I had patients coming to me with very low oxygen saturations like yourself in the low seventy.
I even had someone in the sixties and we were sort of forced to do what we could and we actually were successful.
It was amazing.
It was such a learning curve for me because like every other doctor, I thought, okay, it's a virus.
There's nothing you can do.
You can't treat it.
You can't treat viruses.
But when you have patients coming in to see you, needing help, you're just going to.
try to use common sense.
If they can't breathe, they're going to try to use medications that traditionally would help the breathing.
And then, you know, I started off, you know, pretty non controversial because I was using monoclonal antibodies, which was kind of standard of care.
And there was, you know, I wasn't under any heat with that.
But when the government took over distribution of monoclonal antibodies, it became so hard to get.
And eventually, they completely disappeared.
And I think that was very intentional.
I think it was to try to get people to get the COVID shots because they took away monoclonal antibodies at the exact same time that they mandated the COVID shots.
So when that, when monochloral antibodies were no longer an option, I started using ivermectin and I dug into the safety because I, you know, I didn't want to, you know, well, there was so much controversy, right?
And so I really made sure it was safe before I started using it and I wasn't sure it was going to work, but I found that it did work and even without the monochloral antibodies, I was keeping people out of the hospital.
At the same time, I saw that these shots were not working.
I was testing people, so I knew that these vaccinated patients were just as sick, if not sicker than the unvaccinated.
And then I, you know, I actually went to Houston Methodists.
They were the first to mandate the shots five months before Biden.
So this was April 1, 2021.
They basically paved the way for the rest of the country.
I had privileges there.
And I was actually working with them.
I was collaborating with them.
We had a good relationship.
And when I started seeing these, you know, quote, unquote breakthrough cases, I reached out to them and they gaslit me and said, Oh, well, we think it just lowers severity.
So then I started speaking out on social media.
And that was the fatal mistake.
Yeah.
They came after me really hard and they did it very publicly.
They accused me of spreading dangerous misinformation and hence the title of my book.
rob dew
Wow.
Yeah.
And then, you know, they make your life difficult.
They start putting reports out on you.
I mean, we've seen that here.
You get demonized for, for, uh, things you, you might have gotten wrong or, or, or with you.
You're actually helping people and they're like, going, no, you're not allowed to help these people.
They're not allowed to have early treatment.
And we know that was so they could keep this, this vaccine mandated.
Um, do you think they knew the people, do you think the people now know that we're, that have been pushing this?
Or have you met anybody that was like, that was in the medical community that was like, I was pushing this vaccine.
Now I know it's bad and they're like atoning for that.
Have you seen anything of that or is it just these people are still like, no, we were right.
You need to take more boosters?
dr mary talley bowden
No, unfortunately, no one firsthand has come to me and said, Oh, you were right and I was wrong.
I have heard of people softening their stance and I've heard of, you know, patients will say, Yeah, my doctor said you're right.
But, you know, a lot of doctors either don't want to get involved in the mess because it's very messy.
So even though they agree, they're just going to stay quiet or, you know, they truly, I mean, I think the vast majority of doctors still believe in these shots, Unfortunately, I mean, that's what I hear from other patients who are out there, but there certainly are a lot of doctors who are on our side.
My little network has grown substantially since this all started.
I'm more connected now with doctors than I was before the pandemic by far.
So it's not that we shouldn't have hope.
There are, you know, there's a substantial number of doctors out there that are on our side, but I don't think we can let our guard down yet.
rob dew
Yeah, and I think that's a good thing.
We have these voices in the wilderness that are now networked together who are who are sharing information, sharing research, sharing their anecdotal stories and progresses and victories.
And I think that's only going to help the next pandemic.
We're going to be a lot more prepared and you're not going to see a lot of people so easily bamboozled by what's happening.
Are you helping patients now with spike detox?
Are you seeing a lot of that?
How is that working for you?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, it's a lot easier to treat COVID than it is to treat spike detox.
I'll say that it's been a lot of trial and error.
It's slow going.
I had the most success with ivermectin because, you know, it binds.
the spike protein.
It's anti inflammatory, very well tolerated.
It's becoming more accessible.
It's still a little bit tricky to get Walgreens or CVS to fill it, but it's a lot easier than it used to be.
So, and it might even become over the counter in Texas if Governor Abbott will add it to the second special session, which we're really hoping he will.
But the spike detox is challenging because, first, we don't have a lot of great diagnostic tests.
And the patients that I see, the vast majority of them have seen multiple.
other doctors.
They get the million dollar workup and the tests come out with nothing.
And so the doctors say we don't know and they will put them on psychiatric medications.
The test that I have found most informative, although it's still muddy, is the spike protein antibody test.
We don't have a test to directly measure spike protein, but the antibody test can give us a sense if there might be lingering spike protein in the body.
Spike protein antibodies will form after an infection or the shot, but over time those antibody levels should change dissipate and under any other vaccine or any other infection, they wouldn't stay elevated years later after the infection or the vaccine.
But what I am seeing in my practice is that patients who had these COVID shots often will have very high off the charts spike protein anticorp levels four years after getting two or three shots.
And that is not normal.
And the discrepancy between patients that just had a natural infection and those that got the shots on average in my patients is ten times higher in the patients that got the shots.
That to me suggests that there is lingering spike protein in the body, causing inflammation and possibly other issues.
So that's what I kind of start with, and I typically start with ivermectin.
I actually interviewed, I have a podcast on America Out Loud News, and I interviewed four experts, four different doctors that are all treating spike protein, you know, either long COVID or COVID shot injuries.
And the takeaway is that we need more research because we all had all four had different approaches.
All four used ivermectin, but all four had different approaches beyond that.
So it's very muddy.
It's very trial and error.
It's very frustrating as a doctor because doctors, you know, our job satisfaction is when our patients get better and these patients are very challenging.
And then patients are frustrated because, you know, I see, I definitely see improvements, but it's hard to get a cure.
rob dew
Well, what I never do is use ivermectin with zinc.
And I've never ordered it from India.
I've never given it to friends who also who are having long COVID from the shot and boosters and they never got any better at all and can now run and sing in church.
Never happened to me.
So I just want to put that out for record in case people want to know what I've never done.
But I do want to talk about we we saw a product and it's probably the same on America's Frontline Doctors.
Is it what what what's the group you're with?
You didn't say America's Frontline Doctors.
Is that?
dr mary talley bowden
Well, the podcast is called America Out Loud News.
rob dew
America Out Loud.
dr mary talley bowden
I have a I have my own group called Yeah.
rob dew
Because doctor McCullough's on that one too, right?
dr mary talley bowden
Yes, yes, exactly.
rob dew
So he was always talking about nado kinase, starting with that, Ivermec, because that you could get over, you can just order that, bromeline, turmeric, those are like his three main things, and then, you know, I've never put added ivermectin with that supplementation regimen,
but we have a product called Ultimate Life Force that has selenia, bromeline, and acetylylcysteine, which helps your body produce glutation, nado kinase, turmeric, black pepper extract, and serra peptase.
And this is something that I've given to a lot of people and they found that it definitely helps with any lingering effects they've been having because people aren't having things where they're like being debilitated.
It's just quality of life is what I'm seeing.
They weren't able, they're not able to do the things they used to do.
And now when they start, you know, really focusing on detoxing this from their bodies, they're seeing, you know, results that I don't think they thought were possible.
And they're kind of amazed that this isn't mainstream information everywhere.
It's like you have to really dig for it to find it.
So I'd encourage people to check out Ultimate Life Force if you're looking for anything in that way, if you're having some lingering effects or something to take care as a, you know, sort of a preventive.
But I mean, what and so you're giving people Ivermectin or telling people to take Ivermectin.
What else are you adding to that regimen?
dr mary talley bowden
It kind of varies.
I mean, I see a lot of patients with severe neurological problems and it's that's that's hard because a lot, you know, it's the brain's fault.
They don't respond very well to anything.
unidentified
Well, no.
dr mary talley bowden
I mean, even like tremors or they had electric shocks through their body or severe pain that just came on immediately after the shocks and there's no really anatomical explanation.
It's probably a blood flow issue.
I had some really challenging patients that it takes more than ivermectin and natokinase, unfortunately.
And it's a, you know, there's a whole if you go to Independent Medical Alliance, they on their website, they have protocols, all sorts of different things that are being tried.
The bottom line is, you know, the government got us into this mess.
They need to help us get it, get us out.
They need to back the funding.
They need to help the injured.
They are not helping the injured.
98% of patients who have applied for compensation for the CICP, which is a.
It's a for the COVID shot patients injured, 98% of them have been shut down.
I mean, it's really bad.
And there are people that are, I see it almost daily basis, people whose lives have been absolutely destroyed by these shots.
I've never seen anything like it with any other product on the market.
Any other product would have been pulled a long time ago based on the things that I and other of my colleagues are seeing.
Other doctors are seeing it.
They're not admitting to it.
They're gaslighting patients.
But I think we all know someone that's been injured by these shots.
And that's just not normal.
rob dew
Yeah.
It really is a it's going to be something that's generational.
We're going to see this for the next twenty years, I think, people with lingering effects unless they die.
Oh, interesting.
We're showing up some treatments here, low dose methylene blue therapeutic.
That's another product we sell.
But also look at that sunlight.
Sunlight also has a therapeutic effect, which is probably something that not a lot of people are getting.
Are they told to put on massive amounts of sun cream to block the effects of UV radiation, which in some studies people.
These people, moderate amounts of sunlight are good for you that you need that.
You need that so your body produces vitamin D and when you're blocking that out, you're not getting your body's own natural ability to help itself.
dr mary talley bowden
Exactly.
I mean, personally, if I've been in my office all day, I feel so much better when I just walk outside.
It's common sense.
It's we're meant to be outside more than we are.
And yeah, definitely agree that spending more time outside is key.
Getting enough vitamin D that really helps your immune system.
And it's the most common lab abnormality I see is low vitamin D. The lab test will say you need to be above thirty, but ideally you want to be above fifty for oxygen.
So a lot of people do need to take a supplement because it's hard to get enough outdoor time, even though we should.
But I would say if you haven't checked your vitamin D level, that's a good place to start.
rob dew
Let's go back to you were talking about spike protein levels.
What what do they use to measure spike protein level and what's a I mean, obviously you want it to be zero, but what's a number that you're seeing where it's bad and then some where it's moderate and some where it's low?
Like what are the ranges?
dr mary talley bowden
Well, it's and it's not the spike protein itself.
It's the antithype to spike protein.
So it's indirect, not a direct test.
When I have patients with who have gotten the shots, the average is thirteen thousand, but that's an underestimation because seven percent of those patients, the number is off the graph, the upper limit of the test is twenty five thousand.
So seven percent of my patients are above twenty five thousand.
So that average of thirteen thousand is an underestimation.
And the patients who have not gotten the shots, my average in my patients is thirteen hundred.
So you can see it's ten times higher in the vaccinated.
But yeah, and you know, you can't get too worked up about I have some patients that get the number and then they're really anxious about it.
I would go more off your symptoms and how you're feeling than that number.
It's just the numbers just a sort of a guideline, but most important is how you feel.
rob dew
I've heard, and this became a controversy when Trump was talking about just treating COVID, that people were saying, oh, he's telling people to drink bleach, which I think, I don't even know if he was telling people to drink bleach.
He was talking about putting a light inside you as like a UV light, which they, another interesting side note, there's a company who made that technology and we posted that video and it immediately got pulled off of, off of Twitter at the time.
They're like, oh no, you can't show this technology that people are using to clean out their lungs.
But going back to what people were saying was drinking bleach.
Were they talking about chlorine oxide and have you ever seen or used that in your practice to help people?
dr mary talley bowden
I don't well, but I don't know where they got that Trump was touting bleach.
And no, I don't use chlorine oxide at this point.
I I've had luck with other things.
I haven't gone down that route yet.
But I do have patients that use it or have tried it and I've had success.
It's just not it's not., it's not one of my tools that I immediately go to.
rob dew
We had a guy here who was a janitor.
And the first time, like, you know, somebody said, here's chlorine oxide.
And I smelled it.
And I'm like, this smells like our janitor.
Like the guy who, and I, and I swear, the guy never got sick.
And I always thought that was weird that he didn't get sick at all.
And he, like, he walked in a room and it's like, whoa, you could tell our guys in here.
Because he just always, he just, he's always working with cleaning products all the time.
And because that's basically what it is.
It's a disinfectant for that you, you know, you smell if you go to hospitals.
But he seemed to be like, always around it.
Guy never got sick from COVVID, as far as I know.
And I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
I just thought I'd throw that out there.
It's interesting.
I've had, you know, some people are like, Oh, you gotta drink the bleach.
And other people are like, No, you don't touch it.
And so it's always, it's always interesting to get a perspective from someone who's actually trained in medicine to see what they think.
But for one thing, I don't think if it did work, the government would have definitely outlawed it.
It would have made it a felony to own or to use.
We got about three minutes left and then we're going to come back and go to callers.
We got, we got, uh, Bart in Georgia, uh, Clown Car in New York, Mike in Arkansas.
Clown Car is actually actually a very serious guy.
Don't let his name fool you.
He's called him many times.
Matt Baker from Cali, Sean from Cali, Jeremy from Washington, Jack in Wisconsin, and Willie in California.
A lot of California callers today.
So let's, that's probably enough, that's eight calls.
I think that's probably all we'll get to depending on how long they are.
So don't take any more.
But anything else, what do you want to tell people like if you're first learning this information, what's the first thing people should do if they are feeling they think they're feeling the bad effects of that?
What should their first step be?
What should they start doing?
dr mary talley bowden
Well, people can test or spyprotein the anticorp level themselves at LabCorp without a doctor's order.
It's $69.
I don't use Quest because Quest only goes up to 2500, but LabCorps goes up to 25,000.
So that's an easy thing you can do.
And then if you're trying to find a doctor, Independent Medical Alliance has a list of like-minded doctors.
American Frontline Doctors also has, you know, like-minded doctors that will listen to you and take you seriously.
But, but, but, yeah, step one, maybe get that spike protein anti-corpion test.
And if it's really high, then it might be why you're having problems.
rob dew
Okay.
And I guess in your book, what all do you cover in your book aside from your persecution?
Are you talking about any remedies or how to find a doctor?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, I mean, it's more of a memoir of all the drama that has happened in the last five years than really remedies.
I typically do because Independent Medical Alliance has a host of literature on their website where it's very well researched and referenced.
So that's where I tend to send people for more information.
But yeah, the.
The biggest thing, you know, the censorship is still a huge problem.
I don't know, you know, my interview with Rogan survived on YouTube.
But, you know, from what I understand, most podcasters can't have, can't host me on their on their show and have it survive on YouTube.
And that's a huge deal because YouTube is a source of income for these people.
And the fact that they can't have somebody on like me to talk is in five years after the fact is really bad.
So part of my mission in this book is just, you know.
You know, breakthrough the censorship.
We need to keep pushing and get the word out because, you know, we still have babies getting these COVID shots because people just don't know the truth.
rob dew
Oh yeah.
We'll cover that when we come back too.
And we're going to take your phone calls.
Last half of the second hour.
Welcome back to the war room.
I'm your host, Rob Du, sitting in for the great Owen Schroyer who is dealing with some other issues and he should be back in a couple days.
Our guest, Dr. Mary Bowden, chronicling her dealings with the medical establishment, dangerous misinformationation is what they say she was putting out and she was just trying to help people get through COVID-19 and also the fallout from the vaccine.
We have a plethora of callers lined up, one of whom, who will definitely get to because I always like these people.
They, you know, they say the virus doesn't exist, so get ready for that one.
And I'll say this, viruses may or may not exist, but whatever the hell I got knocked the crap out of me and it wasn't anything I've ever had in my life and I've never had it since then.
So it was something.
It could have been rat poison, it could have been snake venom.
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All right, doctor Bowden, you're ready to go for these callers?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah.
rob dew
All right, here we go.
Let's go to Bart in Georgia.
It says both parents were hurt by the vaccine.
So go ahead, Bart.
What's your story?
bart in georgia
Yeah, yeah, sir.
Before I get to that, I want to say I'm backed up on the methylene blue.
It's the best thing you guys ever had.
Please go to the alexstone store dot com slash Bart with capital B. Now both of my parents have been severely hurt by this vaccine.
My father got a blood clot.
This is within the last year.
barton in georgia
My mother just had a massive stroke.
Both of them, I warned them.
bart in georgia
They wouldn't listen to me.
My father finally understands my mother's I can't help her, but I can help the rest of you.
barton in georgia
I got the flu.
I don't know if I had COVID, but I took ivermectin at the first sign sign of illness, within hours, I was feeling better.
bart in georgia
By the next day, it was like nothing had happened.
Anyway, thank you for taking my call.
rob dew
Okay.
So are you using ivermectin for anything other than COVID?
Have you tried it with a flu patient or something like that?
bart in georgia
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
dr mary talley bowden
Definitely.
rob dew
Oh, that was for Dr. Bowden Bart.
Sorry, I'll let you come back in one second.
Go ahead, Dr. Bowden.
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, it's been shown to inhibit the import of the viral protein into the nucleus.
So, and for any RNA virus, not just COVID.
So there's definitely science behind that.
It would be great for them.
I would love to see a study where they use ivermectin for the flu and compare it to zoofluza.
So zoofluza is a flu medication.
unidentified
You take a single dose.
dr mary talley bowden
I've had some good success with it, but not, you know, not one hundred percent.
I'd be very interested to see how it compares to ivermectin and also see how it compares to the flu shot.
I don't know if you saw that they now have a flu vaccine that's going to be mailed to people in their homes and it's a live flu virus.
It's a weekend version of the flu virus.
You spray it in your nose, but it sheds.
And they actually in the package insert, there's a data on how much shedding occurs.
It can occur for a month after a patient puts this in their nose.
It's really unbelievable.
They're sending this out in the US mail.
rob dew
Well, not if they want to create more pandemics.
I mean, that would actually be how they would do it.
Send it to the mail to people and see who's stupid enough to shoot it up their nose.
That's crazy.
Do you pair ivermectin with zinc?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah.
I mean, basically when someone gets sick, I tell them, you know, do the zinc, the vitamin C, the vitamin D. R and D, you know, up all that.
So yeah, but okay.
rob dew
All right.
Hey Bart, anything else you want to add there at the end?
bart in georgia
Ivermectin works.
Even the stuff you get that's made for horses, I've used it.
I believe it cure the cold and the flu.
That's probably why they don't want us to have it.
rob dew
Yeah.
I have a friend who does liquid drops and for her dogs, she puts it in their dog water.
dr mary talley bowden
I did a poll on X and I think about twenty five thousand people responded and fifty two percent of patients or people were getting their ivermectin from the feed.
unidentified
store.
rob dew
That's crazy.
Get it from India.
It comes in a little package.
It's nice.
And they're actually getting better with shipping.
So thanks for calling Bart.
Appreciate your Appreciate your perspective and sorry to hear about your parents.
Hopefully, you know, you could get them on some spike detox.
Go ahead, Clown Car, New York.
clown car in coney island
Honk Honk.
rob dew
Honk Honk.
clown car in coney island
Yes, doctor.
I wanted to know, I'm a pure blood and I've been having intercourse with somebody who is fully vaccinated.
I know it's a possibility that it could shed to my bloodstream.
Is that true?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, I mean, shedding can happen, but I've never told somebody you need to like, you know, break up because of that situation.
I mean, are you having ill effects from it, do you think?
clown car in coney island
I mean, I take a lot of methylene blue lately and a bunch of the, if you were store products, I kind of feel that keeps my immune system pretty strong.
I'm just wondering if there was any known studies done yet where, say, a husband who's not vaccinated and a wife is or vice versa where it's, you know, spread over and shed.
Is there a test to that?
dr mary talley bowden
That would be a very good study to perform, but I mean, you might have checked your spike protein anticorp levels?
clown car in coney island
I don't go to the doctors.
I will not let them inject me or stick anything in my body, ever.
dr mary talley bowden
Well, you can just you can bypass the doctor's office, you go to lab four and just yeah, you do have to have something.
Yeah, you have to have a stick, but it might give you peace of mind.
I mean, if you're not having any side effects that you know of, then maybe don't worry about it.
rob dew
Clancar, you should do that with your girlfriend too.
Do each do your anticorp levels and see where they're at.
at and then you can you know then it's a game then you can like track it track your antibody levels through the years my wife doesn't know about my girlfriend though oh god tmi i hope she hasn't watched the show you've been outed all right thanks for calling clown car always a treat let's go to uh mike in arkansas uh doesn't believe uh the viruses that existed i warned you about this question here it is go mike All right.
willie in california
Can you hear me?
rob dew
I can hear you loud and clear.
clown car in coney island
Good deal.
Okay.
So this is my question.
Can you get your crew to pull up a picture of the COVID-19 virus taken through an electron microscope by Quanta has or smallpox has or Ebola virus has.
I can't seem to find one on the internet.
rob dew
Well, I think I have seen actual photos of that.
They're pulling something else up.
Oh, look at this.
GOP urges Governor Abbott to prioritize.
This is from July.
I thought this was new.
OTC Ivermec in an upcoming special session.
So we missed the special session though.
I think we're going into session two.
And we put your ex post up earlier that showed that.
that showed that guys, can you find I thought I've seen at least an electron microscope version of it with the little spikes that they that they made doctor have you ever seen that the electron microscope version of the virus?
dr mary talley bowden
I feel like I have too but you know off the top of my head I can't say that for sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
rob dew
All right so this this proves that the virus doesn't exist or do you think no viruses exist or just this virus doesn't exist?
clown car in coney island
No, the coronavirus because and this is why I say this because they had from all I do is sand for it.
I don't know much about this but from what I understand when this first started all they had was a a CRISPR program.
Right.
said this existed, okay?
So they never showed us a picture of it.
What they did was they showed us some CGI mock-up of what it might look like, okay fine.
rob dew
I've seen those, yeah.
willie in california
But wait a few months.
clown car in coney island
So, okay, it never came out.
They were never able to isolate it.
So now you I heard the story about how a bunch of these swabs got sent off to all these various colleges and the colleges were testing and whatever and the colleges swab, put the swabs in the Petri dish and what they grew,
only thing they could grow was was influenza a and influenza b so they had all these quote unquote positive covid19 tests and the only thing they could get to grow was was uh uh influenza a and influenza b so this was a big deal i remember hearing about colleges suing the cdc over it so at the end of the day this covid really ever existed or was it all just bs about the influenza b going around and in which case all of this is medical
dr mary talley bowden
malpractice well i'll say i'll say that if i can say something about the difference between covid and and the flu um I have never seen prior to code and as an ENT this is sort of my area I've never seen a virus that caused complete loss of smell that also reversed.
So we would see as an EMT, it was not uncommon to see patients that completely lost their sense of smell after a viral infection.
It wiped out the nerve.
But I never had seen a virus where it wiped out the nerve and then it came back, it was the first ever.
So in my mind, COVID was different than the flu.
I mean, it definitely acted different than any other virus I'd seen before.
rob dew
It traveled around my body.
It was doing a field trip.
It started as allergies, then it went to my head, then it went to my chest, then it went down to my groin, then it went to all my muscles., I mean, it moved all around and had a field day.
And I've been, you know, I think I've got it out of my body at this point.
I mean, I rode twenty miles yesterday, swam half a mile this morning.
So I'm feeling like I can, I can hold my own in the exercise department.
But still, I don't feel I'll ever be 100% to what I was before that happened.
Although I am drinking a lot less now, so that's good.
And it did help me lose weight.
So it was like, it was like, you know, you want to lose 30 pounds, you get a really bad case of COVID.
And that weight comes right off in about three weeks.
Which, you know, I don't recommend it for everyone, but it helped me.
Mike, I appreciate your questioning, definitely.
Did you actually catch anything during this time that you think might have been COVID?
clown car in coney island
Yeah, I thought I caught influenza B because it's got the same respiratory symptoms as they were talking about and it's got all the other side effects and symptoms that they were listing as being COVID.
So, I mean, what I got, as far as I'm concerned, was influenza B. Now, did I ever get tested?
donald j trump
No.
clown car in coney island
because I'm smarter than that.
One way to not get COVID is not getting tested, especially when the tests are 90% of the positive was false.
You don't have a test.
Therefore, I eat with no test, I eat means there's no virus.
rob dew
Do you remember what they came up with?
clown car in coney island
Where's a poisoned shock to give everyone?
Well, it's a bunch of crap.
rob dew
Sure, I agree with that.
Do you remember early on there was an Indian, some Indian researchers that had looked at it and they found HIV in the virus as well as an HIV insert where the actual spike protein sat.
Do you remember seeing that?
Because that was something we reported on early on, I think in like mid January into early February, because I think that's when it started, you started seeing information of 2020.
We saw this and then it got pulled and they said, oh, this, this, they didn't do this study right.
It's not peer reviewed now, but it was out there for a few days and people are like, wait, why is there HIV in this, in this, oh my God, what are you all bringing up horse paste?
Anyway, that is the crew back there.
I did not ask them to bring that up, but that this seemed to be an amalgamation of different viruses that were fused together somehow in a lab, and that's why it had the weird effects that it had in it.
Did did you do any research on that on the origins of it?
in your study, in your research?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree.
It was manufactured and not a natural virus.
I tend to think it was released on purpose, not an accident as an act of warfare.
And I think if it was an act of war, it was genius because it divided our country like most external threats bring everyone together.
You know, see what 911 brought us all together.
But this divided our country severely and it still has divided us.
I believe my gut is that it was purposeful.
rob dew
Yeah, yeah.
In fact, Scott Adams now has a name for people who are like running around saying, I told you not to take the vaccine.
It's a character called COVID Carl who likes to judge his colleagues on whether they took the vaccine or not because he unfortunately did succumb to, I feel the brainwashing and did take it.
And he goes, but I took it for the right reasons.
Whatever.
You can, you can't, you can't negotiate your way out of that paper bag.
Mike, thanks for calling.
I appreciate your perspective.
Let's go to Matt Baker in Cali.
Is this the Matt Baker?
matt baker in cali
There's a lot of misinformation and disinformation.
This information that we're hearing here.
rob dew
Oh, it's wait, it's Dr. Fauci.
matt baker in cali
If you're having a problem with long cocaine or a problem with the spike protein, all you need is another booster.
If you don't, if two boosters don't work by the time you get to the ninth booster, you won't be feeling anything.
Trust me.
rob dew
What's our booster count at?
Hold on there, Mike.
What's our Dr. Fauci, I'm sorry.
What's our booster count at right now, Dr. Bowden?
Where are we at?
dr mary talley bowden
I was just racking my brain.
I think nine might be accurate.
Yeah, I could be wrong.
I'm going to look that up when we' when we were off.
rob dew
Yeah, it was definitely, my last count I think was five or six and that was a while ago.
I remember like looking at it, I'm like, how many did they?
There were two shots and then there was like, at least four or five boosters after that, but then I stopped counting about six months ago.
Okay, go ahead with your question, doctor Fauci, do you have any more wisdom to expose, expouse on us?
matt baker in cali
Well, I'm going to break, I'm going to break character.
clown car in coney island
What's up, Rob?
matt baker in cali
So good to hear you on the air.
clown car in coney island
Your voice is so easy to listen to.
rob dew
Oh, thanks.
clown car in coney island
So anyway, I got one question and I got a tip for some people.
willie in california
How to get the horse paste?
clown car in coney island
My buddy was getting it from the feed store and I was just like, oh, I wonder if I can get this on Amazon.
And I straight up got the paste from Amazon, Dimetarin.
I had it delivered to my house in two days.
It cost $14.
rob dew
Yes.
The apple, the apple flavored?
clown car in coney island
Yeah.
rob dew
Did you get the apple flavored?
clown car in coney island
I don't think I just got the regular, the regular, because I was actually using it topically.
rob dew
Yeah.
clown car in coney island
So I heard someone say that you can use it for cystic acne.
I have these like a couple of zits on my back that are just like deep, like under the skin, not very fun to talk about.
But it's, hopefully someone else might be able to avail of this.
matt baker in cali
But I used them.
clown car in coney island
I used it on there and they've shrunk pretty much.
They haven't actually gone away, but the first time I used it, they literally did shrink down pretty much.
So if people have some kind of acne that won't go away, give it a try.
You know, you can literally eat the stuff, so it's not going to hurt you.
And then I did have a question, by the way, Rob, I thought it was the mushrooms that cured the COVID, no?
rob dew
I don't know.
I don't know if mushrooms do cure COVID.
They definitely could help with the symptoms though.
clown car in coney island
But I'm tripping though about the whole whether the virus exists or not, because I don't know.
You know, you met my wife, Cece, right?
rob dew
Yeah.
unidentified
She had a she had a she had a she had a she had a blood test transfusion, right?
rob dew
Yeah.
matt baker in cali
And she got pericarditis.
clown car in coney island
And so I took the blood.
I took the blood and I tried to get everyone to test it for the spike protein.
And I had so many hoaxers and hucksters trying to tell me they were going to find it.
And this lady is the first person I've actually heard be honest and say they can't test for it.
You know, because I tried to get McCullough to test it and Stella Emmanuelle, and no one would test it because I wanted to prove that she got pericarditis from the tainted blood.
rob dew
Right.
clown car in coney island
But one question I wonder is, and it's after that I really started questioning the whole spike protein concept is they said there's a spike protein but they can't find it.
Then people are creating things to cure the spike protein but they can't study for it.
And so at a certain point in time, how do you even know if you have an antibody to something that you can't tell if you even have?
So like you wouldn't know if you have an antibody to bee stings if you've never actually isolated the bee sting.
And on top of that, what happened to the flu?
Because remember, all the flu cases disappeared.
Like was the COVID in the air fighting the individual influenza viruses?
Viruses for turf or what happened there?
rob dew
A multiprong question from Matt Baker.
Go ahead, doctor Bowden.
dr mary talley bowden
Well, the flu, like I said, I mean, if you look at the symptoms of COVID, at least initially with the loss of smell, where people just completely lost sense of smell, and it was a nerve issue, nerve inflammation, it wasn't just a stuffed up nose.
I never saw that before where it would completely go away and then completely come back.
That was a very unique symptom.
It's a term called it's pathonemonic of the disease.
So you don't even need a test.
I mean, if you had that symptom, we've never seen that before, that was COVID.
And flu has never acted like that.
A lot of people, you know, weren't getting tested for flu.
Maybe that's part of it.
There's a theory that viruses compete.
And so COVID just won that whole war and flu was pushed aside.
But I do think they're distinct just based on what I've seen clinically.
I mean, I just never, never saw that symptom before with any other virus.
And now I can't remember the other.
Oh, the spike protein antibody.
rob dew
Yeah, the antibody.
So how do you tell that you have a spike protein and not a, like how do you if they can't test for the spike protein but they can test for the antibody, how do they know that you actually have a spike protein in your body?
dr mary talley bowden
Well, we would, yeah.
I mean, we need more tests for that.
There's apparently a lab in Germany that might be able to do it, but I actually spoke to Mikola about that and he's he's not so hot on that test.
But yeah, we definitely need a spike protein test and I don't know really why it's that difficult to do, but it hasn't been done yet.
rob dew
And Matt, I think the reason why some people might not have been testing the blood is because they didn't draw it themselves.
So then there's like contamination issues or whatever, you know, and they then it becomes you were testing some blood that you didn't take.
And I mean, that's the only thing I could think of is what chain of custody is what I could think there.
But I do share your concerns and your distrust of basically a lot of what the medical science is telling us now.
Because are they, are they telling us the truth about anything at this point?
Can we trust them?
Do we have to become backyard doctors?
And that's a little disrespectful to you who's done a lot of the research and done the work to become a doctor and helped a lot of people.
But I think there's a lot you could tell from these calls, there's a lot of distrust out there.
You know, not necessarily about you, but just about the medical system in general.
Are they even looking out for us at all?
And who can you trust?
How do you trust anyone at this point?
dr mary talley bowden
I agree.
It's the most common question I get asked.
It's from my patients.
Who can I trust?
I keep a list and I hand it to people, people that are like-minded.
And it's just patients often like that list better than seeing me.
So it's a big problem.
rob dew
Yeah, definitely.
Well, thanks for calling Mike or Matt, sorry, I called you Mike.
Matt's the was the previous caller.
Thanks for calling Matt.
Love you, brother.
Take care.
Let's go to Sean and Callie.
We're we've got like a minute thirty eight.
Would you stay on longer with us or do you have to run?
dr mary talley bowden
Rob, I can stay on a little bit longer.
rob dew
Okay, go ahead, Sean, real quick.
sean in california
Hey, Rob, thanks for having me.
Real fast, would love to get hold of Matt, by the way, because I'm trying to work with him on this topic of us holding these folks accountable.
And I want to know with our guest, how she would propose going about finding the mens rea, the guilty mindset of both doctors, judges, police officers, all these people who forced that lockdown without being fully aware what they're doing, which would be non seasonal.
Like, what would be her recommendations for us holding them accountable because they committed so many crimes against our rights?
I have ideas of where I want to start, hence why I want to talk to Matt.
But what would she first see?
What would be her remedy?
unidentified
Go ahead.
dr mary talley bowden
I don't know.
I mean, it's kind of beyond my expertise.
I actually I read a book recently, I think it's called The Pharmacist at Auschwitz.
But my take away from that is how long it took to hold people accountable after World War two and hold the Nazis accountable.
I mean, it took way longer than I realized.
So that gives me actually a little hope is that it's not over.
Because that's my big fear is that we've got this new administration.
in place and nothing has happened.
But When you look back at history, it does take time.
And from what I understand, Rand Paul might be our best hope, at least getting to Fauci.
rob dew
All right, we'll be right back.
We got a two minute break and we'll be right back.
All right, if you're looking for some for something extra to stop the gamma globulins coming into your brain cortex, you could try the 50 square feet of Alex Jones tin foil hat kit.
All right, we've definitely hit the rails on that one.
Doctor Bowden, you're not a big wearer of tin foil hats, are you?
Or did they call you a tin foil hat wearer at some point?
unidentified
Did you ever be accused of calling me all?
dr mary talley bowden
I'm sure they did.
Yeah.
I got called all sorts of things.
Sister of the Devil might be my favorite.
rob dew
Wow, that's a good one.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll just try to help people, Sister of the Devil.
jeremy in washington
All right.
rob dew
We got a few more calls.
Thank you for staying a little bit extra.
You can check out her ex at MD Breathe.
And yeah, let's go to Jeremy in Washington.
Let's talk about post COVID treatment for numbness.
Go ahead, Jeremy.
jeremy in washington
Hi.
Thanks for taking my calls.
Yeah.
Long story short, I got nailed with COVID in 2021, 21 August, I went to the hospital, tried to fight it for a while, ended up in coma for about eighteen days.
Ut came out 25 October, worked to get back to normal.
Basically what I've been experiencing is neuropathy, which is numbness like on the top of my feet, which is strange, and also like shortness of breath when I start exercising.
It's like I have to bust through the shell to be able to breathe normally after that.
But those are the two things I was kind of wondering about if you have had treatment for those things.
or know of anything for that?
dr mary talley bowden
Yeah, I definitely have seen that in patients and their neuropathy especially is very hard to fix, unfortunately.
I don't know.
You probably need to have testing done to rule out other things, which I don't know if you've had all that.
You got to sort of make sure there's not something that can be fixed.
And if not, then you got to basically try to increase the blood flow as much as you can.
And there are various ways of doing that.
I mean, the best thing is exercise., but sometimes hyperbaric oxygen works, sometimes sauna, infrared sauna.
I'm a big fan of that.
But unfortunately, neuropathy especially can be stubborn.
rob dew
Yeah.
I did, I had a problem with when I stood up, my legs would be numb and I'd have to walk like a few steps and then it would be like, I'd be normal.
And I started, and that was like a year in trying to detox.
And I I tried BPC 157, which is a peptide and it's experimental and I say they can't say anything, but it helped me.
I mean, it's expensive though.
It's definitely not something, if you've never looked at it, Dr. Bowden, you should definitely check it out for your patients.
Because it, for me, it worked.
And I've been keeping track of every little thing that I've done through the years.
Okay, one more call we got, let's go to Willie in California about our why are we still in a medical emergency?
Go ahead, Willie.
willie in california
Hey, Rob and Mary, welcome.
You know, a little bit different, but we're still in a declared medical emergency while RFK junior could end that section of the PREP Act and the EUA would simply dissolve.
And even after his MMR vaccine statement a few months ago, I still had hopes for him.
But since then, we've had you, Dell Bigtree, Mike Adams, and Naomi Wolf, all questioning his motives behind eliminating food dyes when this mRNA monster still exists.
And we're not recommending COVID-19 shots anymore for children and pregnant mothers, but seniors like myself on Medicare are still being recommended.
When will it become so bad that insurance companies and hospitals are mandated by government medical protocols for treatments against the patient's wishes?
Could we even lose our coverage if we disagree?
with those treatments?
rob dew
That's a big question.
And you get 20 seconds.
mustafa in new york
Wow.
rob dew
We're not laughing at you.
dr mary talley bowden
That's scary, but you're right.
I mean, they can you.
I just can't believe that they got away with mandates.
It's hard to believe, but it all mandates need to be completely eliminated, no matter what, for these schools, for these children going to schools.
rob dew
A bunch of comedians back there making bumper music.
I love it.
unidentified
All right.
rob dew
Our guest had to go.
She stayed on for an extra five minutes.
I wish I could have got to the all your calls.
I left Willie back on the line because I did.
I did want to get into that.
Here's the thing.
You're dealing with a giant bureaucracy and it's a lot bigger than one man.
I mean, really, RFK needs to go in there and fire 10,000 people and start rebuilding from there.
I don't know how, I don't know how, I don't know how anyone could do it.
Any of us would be given that job and would go in going, holy crap, because most of the time people step into that job and it's already running itself.
It's already running.
So they just go in and go, hey, I'm going to keep the status quo going.
unidentified
So.
rob dew
They're not recommending it for children or younger adults, but it's still available.
It's still available for, like they're not saying under six months and over should not take it.
They're not saying that and they need to say that.
They need to come out and say children should not be taking this.
Adults should not be taking this.
Old people.
Now, somehow, there is some study, which I don't believe is even real, but there are studies that they said it did actually help older people because of the way children were able to not be so susceptible to COVID.
But it's the same reason old people were susceptible to it.
They had some.
thing inside them which kept them from getting bad cases, which is why they didn't need the vaccine, but that they did see some help in old people.
I think it was all horse crap, but that's what some of the.
medical science is saying, but go ahead, Willie.
willie in california
Yeah, you know, it was already rehearsed well, you know, during the lockdowns and the mandates of yesteryear, but hospitals, you know, they were totally incentivized by emergency protocols to illegally overcome vaccine hesitancy while submitting to these ventilators and remdesivir, and death was rewarded with money, Rob.
rob dew
Yeah, well, I know, forty thousand for a dead person.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it' is easy to sit on the sidelines and throw stones, but we do want to see, we want to see real work, and that's why we put these people in office.
We want to see real results.
We're sick and tired of lip service.
I want to see arrests.
I want to see these, especially in the medical side, people who were pushing this disease, people who were making this disease.
I mean, get Ralph Barrick in front of a star chamber and let's start getting some questions answered, because that's where it all starts with.
It starts with him and the University of Chapel Hill and where this disease was getting incubated and then having to move it over to China.
Whatever people believe, virus, disease, whatever they.
There was something I've never had in my body before, and it wasn't until they started talking about this COVID-19.
Maybe it's all psychosomatic, but I don't believe so.
Thanks for calling Willie.
Appreciate it.
Let's go to Jack in Wisconsin.
Let's talk about the RFK on the genetic targeting COVID and the vaccine.
I don't know.
It seems like that's incomplete, but go ahead, Jack.
What's your thought?
max in wisconsin
Hey, Rob, can you hear me okay?
rob dew
Sure can.
max in wisconsin
Yeah, I don't know if you remember in 2023, RFK junior got slacked, the current Secretary of Health and Human Services.
He said that he believed that COVID-19 was ethnically designed to spare Chinese and Ashkenazi Jewish people.
rob dew
I do know.
It was a dinner table conversation.
That was a study, a study he had seen.
max in wisconsin
Yeah, and it was on video.
And with Harrison, we on Harrison show, Israel was one of the only countries during that time span to not suffer a decrease in fertility rates.
And also given like Netanyahu.
having a COVID shot in a glass case in his office.
rob dew
Right.
max in wisconsin
And kind of like the murder boner going on with Gaza.
Do you think it's possible that what is COVID-19, the weapon of mass destruction, bio weapon released on us is state sponsored terrorism by Israel and China?
rob dew
Entirely possible.
I think though the Israeli people were probably given, I think they said they had like 98 percent uptake of the COVID shot.
I'm not sure exactly what they were taking, but I think they were on the Pfizer, but I might be wrong on that.
So maybe the government was behind this.
Certainly the people were getting, they seem to be getting, and I remember Netanyahu talking about how well they were able to track each person.
They knew exactly how much they had given out.
They knew who had what because it's such a small country.
It was easier to track everybody.
Now as I mean, I tend to think it's the U.S. government colluding with China that is probably, I guess, going after unleashing this onto the world.
I think the U.S. government knew about it back in October and didn't and didn't say anything at least elements of it did and but I and I do think all these videos that we were seeing people collapse and stuff I think that was a sigh up on people to get them to get sucked into the fear and we saw the media which you could say is you know you could say oh it's all Jewish control but like the local New York news outlets were showing long lines for
people going into the hospital and then people went there the next day and there's nobody in the hospital so they were obviously pulling actors in so I don't know if you could say put the blame just on Israel and China.
I think if Israel is involved then with China and the United States, I think those are the big players pushing it on people and then using it to push onto the world.
But that's all being financed by drug companies and who runs Pfizer, a guy that makes lizard motions with his throat.
Yeah.
Pull that back up.
Let's read that headline out for people.
Jewish groups denounce RFK's false remarks that COVID-19 was ethnically targeted to spare Jews and Chinese people.
And the Chinese, they took a different shot than everybody.
They made their own shot.
The Russians made their own shot too.
I thought that was interesting.
Everybody, you know, not everybody took the Pfizer jab or the Moderna jab.
Some people went the other route.
So, uh, final thoughts, Jack?
max in wisconsin
Yeah.
Uh, you know, Alex Jones always talked about, um, race specific biological weapons.
And, um, I was just thinking that, you know, if, if it is designed to spare Chinese and Ashkenazi Jewish people and designed to sp by mad scientists in some state laboratory.
It's kind of strong evidence that they're culprits, you know.
godzilla in wisconsin
And I can't be a rogue agency because of, like, how you said, the rollout, you know, it had to be at least maybe in the US, rogue elements inside the US, like, once it started rolling out.
max in wisconsin
But people always forget Trump was like, from the start, saying that it was the flu, so there was the flu.
I think they released different versions of the virus.
There were many different viruses they released because it was just the Wild West at that point.
And then the pandemonium with the vaccine and then all that mixing together.
rob dew
Yeah, I think, you know, the guy called in, the guy that called in earlier and said he got it in August, I got it late July, probably the same version of it, which was, I think, the Delta variant, if, you know, and like I said, like, who knows if any of that's true?
Like they come out with these different variants.
Does, did, did it even mean anything?
What was it?
Or was it just something, you know, it could have been something they were adding to the water.
Like, uh, I think Brian Artis was saying they were putting snake venom in the water.
I mean, who knows at this point.
It's hard to know what's real and what's not real.
And it's getting even crazier with with AI videos.
So you really have to.
hunk her down, you know, and don't be too quick to spout, to spout off.
But I agree with you.
Yeah, it's like how do you know?
How do you know who and what to believe?
But yeah, RFK did say that.
I don't think he said anything since then.
He's he's kind of been quiet about that.
And you know, that was a that seemed like to be a candid shot, you know, at a he wasn't like making a press, he wasn't doing a press conference with it.
So he obviously knows way more than what he's saying to the public.
And it would be nice just for these politicians to level with us instead of just trying to, oh, we can't tell them this because they're not, they're not ready to hand handle it.
I think we can handle pretty much anything at this point.
So thanks for calling Jack.
Let's go to Margot in Florida.
Sorry we couldn't get you on with Dr. Bowden, but go ahead.
margot in florida
Hey, how are you doing?
rob dew
I'm doing great.
margot in florida
Okay.
So, you know, from the very beginning I knew something was wrong when they pushed this shot on people.
And I did my research.
unidentified
I was watching the doctors on what the frontline doctors that were going on in front of the Supreme Court.
margot in florida
And I was watching that and I just knew in my gut, you know, because I walk with the Lord and I just knew that.
that there was something going on and you just can't push a vaccine and it just was in your face.
And so I did my research and told my family, my parents, myself.
I also have a jewelry store.
So I was telling my clients, just don't do it.
Just wait.
Just wait.
And my daughter.
And so we decided not to get it.
And so then I got in tune with the ivermectin and I couldn't get hold of it through my doctor.
But I was able to go through a feed store and then I began to make the Caspill.
So I didn't I couldn't I don't like that flavor.
Because that's disgusting.
So I would put him in the capsule, which is the gel one, and we would take it probably three times a week.
Never got it.
Never got the flu.
Nothing.
So my brother, who lives up north, we didn't know that he went and got it.
And he got the Johnson and Johnson one.
And my dad went and saw him and he called me.
He's like, Margot, you won't even believe what happened.
He's like, your brother can't even walk.
I was like, he got one shot.
He said, my brother told me, within two weeks, he knew, he felt it, almost his blood thickening in his legs.
And it got to a point he was hospitalized eleven times.
And they couldn't say, well, we don't know what's going on.
Well, I knew what it was.
It was the shot because I said to my dad, send me a picture of his card because you have a database that you can go into.
And as soon as I saw his number, anything ending in 20a or 21a or b was the deadliest vaccine out there.
And Johnson to Johnson, well, obviously we know how deadly that was because that was the first one that came off the market.
So then I knew Dr. Judy Mikovitz and Michael Yeaton.
They were having a conference over in Tampa and I'm on the east coast.
They were on the west coast.
So I drove throughout the night.
I was able to get invited to a dinner, a private dinner with them, and was able to talk to Judy and Lykovic.
And she gave me the protocol.
She goes, Margot, this is what you need to do.
So the problem was getting it into my brother who was in the hospital at the time.
So they had to smuggle the ivermectin in, and they were putting it through his belly button because at that time it was eating away his muscles and his legs.
And they didn't know what to do.
Well, within three days of going on the protocol, which is the quiceratin, the ivermectin, the vitamin D3, I mean, it was a whole protocol, the FLCCC, you can go online and get it.
And within three days, he's walking.
And the doctors are like, what what what's going on here?
You know, what's going on here?
unidentified
Why don't you take all the medicine we try to give you?
margot in florida
Exactly.
Or they wanted to go in and remove parts of his muscle that were eaten away from the so called whatever it was.
I knew what it was, and I would talk to the doctors from Florida to them, and they didn't want to hear it, yet they knew it.
Because these hospitals here in Florida, for every dead body, they were getting $100,000.
And the nurses that were on the floors, the head nurses, were getting bonuses of $40,000 a month, a month when they would keep their mouths shut.
So I found this out just through people.
So then I would say he was up, he was doing well.
He's still doing well.
He's still doing well.
But he has to consistently take this.
But what happens is it will continue to grow in your body if you don't continue to take it.
So unfortunately, about four years ago, I was diagnosed with progressive MS at 48 years old.
And I was reached out to Dr. Judy Mikovitz.
And when I found out, because people don't realize what MS is, MS, lupus, all these diseases are parasites.
And it's parasites.
And if you go back through, she told me ivermectin.
rob dew
Yeah, what is ivermectin?
margot in florida
I'm taking ivermectin.
And let me tell you something.
Now, I actually flew out to Kansas City for a treatment because I wanted to do it holistically.
And there's a doctor, which you've had on your show to show how he comes forward.
And I'm not going to say his name, but he's very well known.
And I actually was able to get in his protocol.
Now, now, of course, insurance doesn't take care of it.
And by that time, I was so bad with MS before I took the ivermectin that I was in a wheelchair.
rob dew
Yeah.
margot in florida
So I went out to his protocol for two weeks.
I was getting methyl, methylene blue, which I didn't know anything about at the time.
I didn't know anything about it, but I was getting it intravenously.
So I would have to be in there for six hours a day and get IVs put in.
And I was getting the and it was blue.
I mean, as blue as you could be.
I would lie there and the blue and it was going in and what it does and he was explaining it to me.
It passes that methylene blue is able to get everything that you're taking, all your antibiotics or whatever medicines you're taking, supplements.
And what it does, it helps to cross the blood-hbrain barrier.
Methylene blue will help things push it through to where it needs to go.
So with the hyperbaric chamber, I got out of the wheelchair and then had to be 20 grand for two weeks of treatment.
And so when I came back to Florida, within three months, I started to regress and things were coming back.
And so, you know, I was just aggravated.
And then I saw I was at my store and I keep the TV on in my store of InfoWars.
And I heard Alex Jones talking about methylene blue right away.
My ears picked up because I knew I knew what that did for me.
I knew that it got me up and walking again.
And I was having seizures without it.
And I was bad, really bad.
So I ordered it.
I ordered two bottles of it because you had buy one, get one free.
So I started taking it.
And boy, let me tell you something, what a blessing.
And I don't care what anyone says.
I take the ivermectin every single day.
Every single day I take the ivermectin.
I put it in the tablets.
I take the ones from the feed store.
You can put it on your skin too.
Because it helps with.
If you got skin cancer, a friend of mine got skin cancer.
She put it on the thing, it went away.
It's like it disappears.
So you can take it and put it on your skin.
But to get hold of it, you can't.
I have to get it from the feed stores or you can get it on Amazon.
rob dew
I can tell you where you won't get it.
Don't order it from India because you could actually not get ivermektin cream from India long by not getting your ivermektin tablets.
margot in florida
I'll just say But they'll take your money for you, right?
rob dew
No, they'll definitely take your money.
And they won't they won't deliver it.
They won't deliver it.
margot in florida
Exactly.
So as long as I get it from a store in Ohio, I'll pack it more and she'll send it directly to me.
I mean, it's like twelve dollars for a thing of it.
And then I can't, I can't, I don't like the taste.
So I just put it in the capsules in the vegetarian in the vegetable capsule.
I take it every single day and I take the methylene blue.
I take the capsules twice.
I take two of those a day.
And I gotta tell you, I don't really see my neurologist because they want to push the crap on me, but I gotta tell one last thing.
rob dew
Yeah.
margot in florida
When it comes to so my mother and my dad never, never took the shot, nothing.
But her doctor, who is a heart doctor, my mom's cholesterol was real high and he was pushing in this Leviq, I think it's called a shot that you get And every six months you're supposed to get it and it's supposed to bring your cholesterol down.
So she went and got it without me doing any research on it.
Well, what do you think happened?
Within a week she couldn't walk.
She couldn't walk.
Nobody knew.
Nobody knew how to help her.
She kept going to the hospital.
She was in excruciating pain.
I finally went in there and I pulled the paperwork on it.
I went to the CDC.
rob dew
Was it the side effect?
margot in florida
Yeah.
And at the very bottom of it, it shows that it is mRNA.
It's got in it.
matt baker in cali
Wow.
margot in florida
Let me tell you something.
Before anyone gets a shot, please.
matt baker in cali
Yeah.
margot in florida
Please research it.
And if it has the mRNA in it, it is bad.
It is horrible.
And now the doctors are starting to wake up to it because they didn't know how to treat my mom.
But I had to put her on the same protocol that I put my brother on to get it out of her system.
Because it's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
They want to kill you.
They want to kill me because I'm a liability having an MS, you know?
unidentified
So I'm just saying, just everyone needs to do their research.
margot in florida
Don't believe anything.
rob dew
And you're saying, you're saying, with the methylene blue, you're taking it with ivermectin and you're using R our Methylene Blue and it's, it's, you regressed but now you're taking this and you're back to being normal or what's your level at that?
unidentified
You're walking?
rob dew
Okay.
margot in florida
No, I'm, you know, I own a jewelry store and I'm able, don't get me wrong, I had bad days.
rob dew
Yeah.
margot in florida
But let me tell you something.
I'm walking without a cane.
rob dew
Okay.
margot in florida
And the bad days that I may have maybe like once every couple of weeks, but I'm able to speak properly.
rob dew
Yeah.
margot in florida
Where everything was lagging with me.
rob dew
Right.
margot in florida
The lesions were showing very bright in my brain.
And by when I started on the Methylene Blue, which I couldn't take the liquid.
I bought the liquid but i just couldn't get it down and i was trying to find like a concoction and all of a sudden the pills came out so i ordered the pills i take two of those a day um i've been taking that with everything else with ivermectin once uh i take one pill a day of the ivermectin with the methylene blue and i gotta tell you what a blessing i i am so blessed Well, that is great to hear, you know, because, you know, I'm glad to hear that.
rob dew
That really makes me feel good for, you know, the products that we offer to people.
And, you know, the methylene blue, it really has been a game changer around here in terms of people getting it and seeing effects immediately.
Um, you know, being able to acquire that quality of life they want.
And that's that's really great to hear.
margot in florida
I'm going to tell you, I will put, I will put money on it.
Like I said, I used to get it.
I used to have to pay, what, ten thousand dollars a week?
rob dew
Right.
margot in florida
To get it in my arm and sit there for six hours a day to get it pumped in my system.
And now I can take two pills or drink it once a day.
rob dew
Right.
margot in florida
And pay what?
I don't know, thirty, forty dollars a bottle of it.
rob dew
Depends on what the sale is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
margot in florida
Exactly.
And it's helping me.
It's helping me run my jewelry store.
And it's helping me to have a quality of life that I didn't have before that I have now.
And I gotta tell you, what a blessing.
I don't care what anyone says.
I know what it's like with it and I know what it's like without it.
rob dew
Well, thank you.
dr mary talley bowden
Thank you for having it.
rob dew
Thank you for sharing your story.
And thank you for helping your family too.
Because, you know, sometimes people, they don't want to tell their family, they don't want to say anything.
Because then, oh, you're supposed to mind your own business and not tell people about health.
That's a doctor's job.
You know, but no, it is our job to tell our families, hey, this is what I found out.
This is what I found that works.
Why don't you try it?
Why don't you, you know, and hey, if they don't like it, that's tough.
Margot, excellent story.
You were, that was a twelve minuteute story.
Good job.
You're, we got a minute till break.
I'm going to let Mustafa get his question in and then we'll answer it when we come back.
And at the end of the show, we're going to play Darren McBreen's mini documentary that he wrote on propaganda and how they sell wars.
It's all about pulling on your host strings.
Go, thanks for waiting so long.
We got Mustafa in New York.
Go ahead, sir.
mustafa in new york
Thank you for having me.
You cover so many wonderful topics.
I mean, it's just I came in for one thing and you just covered so many.
It's just amazing.
I love that because information is key.
But as I was saying, I have a background with radiology research and we dealt with mRNA.
Now most of these viruses are mRNA viruses.
Okay, and I'm going to go on record with that.
And they have the same proteins.
I mean, I think even doctor, I mean, even Kerry Mullins, who's a famous microbiologist who wrote books and journals and stuff, had clarified that.
unidentified
But the thing I wanted to mention is that Okay, hold on, hold on.
rob dew
I'm going to let you finish that.
Radiologists got some, got some knowledge we're about to drop.
Coming up, right after the break.
unidentified
The program that strikes fear into the heart of the elite.
willie in california
It's the war.
rob dew
The vibrational fossa of the dig brings us back in.
We were talking with Mustafa in New York.
This is the last segment of the war room and I'm going to have Darren McBreen pop in and tell us a little bit about his, it's like a 13, 14 minute documentary that he did on how they sell you wars.
Very good.
So let's go back to Mustafa.
He's a radiologist and he was talking about the proteins and being in viruses.
Go ahead, sir.
mustafa in new york
Okay, so now with that, we all understand that mRNA has the same protocols and the viruses that are being made have the same protocol.
Now, what I wanted to talk about was that I found that when people around me that was getting sick, and I was also, I knew that back in the days in the 80s when we were doing a lot of this research stuff, if we became symptomatic, so to say, and we recognized the symptoms, a lot of times just, you know, using peroxide flushes and putting it in an ear and going with it and wiping the inside of your nose would actually keep the virus from half-life.
I mean, it would keep the virus half-life, meaning that it won't incubate.
I had people reach me from various prisons when I used to talk a lot in the opening about it, so I got scared a little bit.
rob dew
Real quick, I'll jump in here.
Flushing the nose, they said was the biggest thing.
And in a lot of Asian countries, they do that a lot.
They flush the nose a lot.
And so they weren't getting bad versions of the virus, those people who were doing that, because basically you're taking it from here and instead of going up into your nasals and then into your lungs, it's going down and being digested into your digestive tract.
mustafa in new york
That's correct.
Let's understand the pathway.
When you when you breathe in, you breathe in through your nasal canal, right?
Your ear, nose and throat are all connected.
So what the virus does because of the virus.
Because there's no blood circulation in your ears.
So the virus could easily go there and attach it, then it becomes incubated.
When it becomes incubated, you understand most people get sick and they say, I feel heavy headed, light headed, congestion in the nose.
That means that it's got to enough build up because in the ears, the blood vessels are so small, the white blood cells can't get there.
And it's cool enough to stay cool and dry.
It needs air to all breathe because it's all connected.
So it stores in the ear, builds up this ear wax.
You start pushing some mucus into your mouth into your nasal cavities and then eventually you swallow and it goes into the thoracic cavity.
Now this virus for whatever it is, it has extreme permeability, meaning that it actually was one of the first times that I actually saw on many radiographs that it actually attacks both lungs at the same time.
Okay.
PCP pneumonia, which is AIDS related, seemed to have some kind of effect just like that.
Now I'm not saying that it's that, but HIV also has the same kind of proteins.
All viruses have the same basic building block proteins.
I think ATCG and all that other stuff.
I can't get into it in such a short period of time.
But what I suggest with people is that if they ever become symptomatic or even people that work with the public, always flush.
I mean, you use a 50--50 solution of hydrogen peroxide and warm water and you're flushing it in your ears.
The first time you put it in your ears, you're going to hear it bizzing.
That means it's irritating.
rob dew
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
mustafa in new york
You know, the parents or anything that's in there.
Another thing I told people, because like I said, I do a lot of, you know, ministry work, so to say.
I had people write me from prison when I was talking about it, and they didn't have access to alcohol, you know, that they actually, you know, use for shaving.
So I said, if the hand sanitizer is alcohol beach, sniff the hand sanitizer.
As soon as you feel symptomatic, you feel like that, the fish come up, you take the hand sanitizer and you breathe it.
Now people say, Oh, you know, Mustafa, that's crazy.
But let's understand when that hand sanitizer or the alcohol in the hand sanitizer, when you breathe it in, it burns the nasal canal, right?
That means it burns any pathogen that's in its way.
rob dew
Right.
mustafa in new york
So it's cutting off a route to get to your chest.
rob dew
That's kind of like using a flamethrower though.
You're feeling you're feeling it.
mustafa in new york
Exactly.
Now there's one more important thing that you really discussed.
Like, let's discuss the analogy of how this happened.
Because I've been hearing so much, reading so much that, you know, they have a thing called smart dust.
Yeah.
Where, you know, processors and stuff like that, they get actually small enough to fit through a sling.
rob dew
Yeah.
mustafa in new york
Now, you know, we had Dr. Charles Lieber who was arrested for Harvard thing, who was the father of nanotechnology.
He already said, I believe, on TED and other networks that talk the truth, they explained how hooking up the genome to computers is actually not a theory anymore.
It's an action that has been proven.
Now, where do you get the people to test on?
rob dew
The army, they've tested these people on the army, definitely.
mustafa in new york
Yeah, so not only that, the mass public, all the big, but the job says, listen, they hijacked your right.
to, what do you say, your economic pursuit of happiness and your right to travel?
rob dew
Sure, or informed consent, informed consent, anything of that.
And you could go back, there's a lot of studies they did, or not, a lot of experiments they did in subway stations.
They would just release a non lethal pathogen and see how it would flow through the subway system.
And they were just testing these things just to see, just like, you know, scientists just looking, you know, hmm, oh yeah, someone got sick.
No, this guy didn't get sick.
This guy turned purple.
Oh, wow, look at that.
You know, and but that's how they treat us, that we're lab rats.
That's how I think the elites look at us.
Hey, I gotta jump, Mustafa, because I'm gonna get Darren McBreena here, great insights, call back any time.
It was a great, very informative call.
And I will say this too, when my kids get congestion that we have a little nasal rinse, it's got, it's salt water, it's salt based, but I put silver and a little iodine in there, a little bit of our X2 and some of our silver bullets.
So then that seems to help clear them out pretty quickly.
So I would recommend that.
We got Darren McBreen, we're going to bring him on to play his, to introduce his documentary, his mini documentary that he made.
And he's been working on it for a while and it just showed up this morning, actually late yesterday on the.
And I was checking it out and watched a little bit of it today, but it goes back to the babies and incubators.
That's the big babies and incubators is where it kind of all started with the modern propaganda using the television.
darrin mcbreen
Well, that's right.
And I think it's important what I say in this documentary, mini documentary, that it's a cautionary tale because I just want everyone to be prepared because whenever the next war happens, just know that you're probably being fed a bunch of bullshit from beginning to end.
And it's the powerful interest groups that are involved.
Of course, it's the military.
industrial complex and big time it's the media and now we have the social media.
But this is a good case example, a good case study for how we all got manipulated back in the day.
And I'm going to tell you, I was one of them, Rob.
I was, I mean, if my son wasn't getting ready to get born, I was probably going to enlist and, and, and go, especially after Whitney Houston in the Super Bowl.
I'm telling you, that's, that's united everyone.
But Saddam Hussein was known as a baby killer.
We really bought into that.
rob dew
Also literally Hitler.
darrin mcbreen
And exactly.
And there was a guy, Congressman Tom Lantos, representative from California, he was a Holocaust survivor and he was co-chair of the Human Rights Committee.
And so he really gave merit to the fact because he would know a Hitler if he saw one, right?
So he was there.
And I'm telling you, it was powerful stuff to see him testifying, to see him talking about the Iraqi Republican Guard, the Iraqi military going in there.
taking babies out of the incubators.
Most of our audience has seen that before, but we're really going to dive way deeper into it, how the media, and there, and it all came together during the Super Bowl.
And then it was the first time that we're all able to watch live war coverage, man, on TV.
And I'm telling you, it sounds horrible because we knew people were dying, but it was literally like watching a football game because you and your buddies are drinking beer.
matt baker in cali
Yeah.
rob dew
We got Storm and Donovan Schwartzkopf going in there.
You're going to kick some butt.
darrin mcbreen
There's something.
So this is a nostalgic history, you know, down memory lane, you're going to see a good history report.
It'll bring back memories for many of us who were there at the time.
And then for younger people, you just get an idea of how it was back then and how we just got manipulated.
So, I mean, dude, they did a good job.
Like I said, I was ready to go.
And it was one of the most I was so proud when we were there.
rob dew
Hey, they got us still with social media with the pandemic.
So it can be done.
They just they find different ways to do it.
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Thank you and I'll see you next time.
darrin mcbreen
What you are about to witness is a chilling tale of government deception and propaganda meticulously designed to rally public support for war.
As you are about to see, these tactics have succeeded before and they are prepared and equipped to manipulate us again.
So this is a cautionary tale.
This is the Art of Selling War.
In 1990, during the run up to the Gulf War in Iraq, a tearful teenage Kuwaiti girl, known only as Nayira, described a horrifying scene.
Iraqi soldiers storming hospitals in Kuwait, ripping babies from incubators and leaving them to die on the cold floor.
unidentified
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Nigera, and I just came out of Kuwait.
While I was there, I saw Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns.
They took the babies out of the incubators.
They took the incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor.
darrin mcbreen
Her testimony was raw, emotional, and unforgettable.
It was broadcast all across America.
The news networks aired her story repeatedly.
President George HW Bush referenced it in his speeches.
And support for military intervention in the Gulf War skyrocketed.
unidentified
They had kids in incubators, and they were thrown out of the incubators so that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled.
Babies pulled from incubators and scattered like firewood across the floor.
That was horrifying.
darrin mcbreen
But there was a problem.
Naria's story was one big fat lie.
Naria wasn't an ordinary volunteer nurse as she claimed.
No, she was Naria Al Sabah, the daughter of Kuwait's ambassador to the United States and member of the Kuwait's ro testimony was a carefully staged performance, and this is how it happened.
Neira's testimony was organized by a front group with close ties to the Bush administration.
They came up with the name Citizens for a Free Kuwait, and they hired a powerful PR firm, Hill and Nalton, who had close ties to the CIA.
Their objective?
Launch a massive propaganda campaign to sway public and congressional opinion to go to war in Iraq.
Neira was even given acting lessons, and focus groups felt the incubator story would strongly resonate with the American people, and it did.
It became the centerpiece, a lie so vivid it drowned out skepticism.
unidentified
Now is the time to check the aggression of this ruthless dictator whose troops have bajonetteed pregnant women and have ripped babies from their incubators in Kuwait.
Daylight brings only the digging of yet more graves as Bald there were reports of mass burials of premature babies in Kuwait dumped from incubators, which were the only source of death.
They were incubators, which were then trucked to Baghdad.
The Iraqis tore the respirators from their incubators.
They stole the incubators and threw the babies out of the incubators.
Twenty two newborn babies were in incubators at their hospital, and the troops, the Iraqi troops, turned off the oxygen of those incubators.
darrin mcbreen
And then there's this guy.
Holocaust survivor Representative Tom Lantos was brought in to co chair the Congressional Human Rights Caucus.
After all, he would recognize a Hitler if he saw one.
tom lantos
Immature infants in incubators were sentenced to die by having the incubators removed and the children allowed to perish.
Saddam Hussein has now unleashed on the people of Kuwait unspeakable horrors, and it is the responsibility of all of us to awaken an indifferent and disinterested world community to what this new Hitler means.
unidentified
And that's what we're dealing with.
Hitler revisited.
darrin mcbreen
And so began the American public's rally cry to support the Gulf War as a moral obligation.
But just in case not everyone was on board, enter Hollywood.
unidentified
We pray to make the music right, make the wrong things right long.
We're all praying you remain strong.
That's why we're all here to sing the praise.
darrin mcbreen
The Gulf War was now officially commercialized, reinforcing the narrative that it was a good war.
war and celebrities were brought in to capitalize on Hollywood's flair for spectacle.
They produced a We Are the World style music video.
A compilation of celebrities got together to perform Voices That Care that was played over and over again on MTV, CNN, Entertainment Tonight, and all the major news networks.
I mean, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing this music video.
And if that didn't appeal to your patriotism, on the eve of Operation Desert Storm, who could ever forget the most iconic and powerful rendition of the Star Spangled banner in History performed by Whitney Houston at the Super Bowl.
unidentified
And the home of all of us.
And the home of all of us.
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
george h w bush
Good evening from the White House to everyone in the Sunshine State and around the world enjoying this wonderful game.
unidentified
What a pleasure it is to say hello to all the young people on the field tonight.
george h w bush
But today we should recognize the men and women in our armed forces.
Far away from home, they protect freedom in the Persian Gulf and around the world.
And just as we salute these brave Americans, let's remember their families on the field with you today in Tampa.
To the children of these men and women, let me say that as this and every day draws to a close, it's your mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters who are the true champions, the true heroes in our country.
Not only do they have the heartfelt thanks and gratitude of this president, but of all Americans as well.
unidentified
On behalf of the whole Bush family.
Thank you for allowing us to be with you tonight.
george h w bush
And God bless you all.
And God bless all freedom-loving people around the world.
unidentified
America!
darrin mcbreen
When the war began, it was the first time in history when we could all watch live 24/7 war coverage on television because of satellite technology.
Little did we know at the time that it was the architects of war who had us glued to our TV screens.
And there we all were watching it live on TV, drinking the Kool-Aid, eating popcorn.
To be honest, in many ways, this was entertainment.
unidentified
Air raid sirens are beginning to sound over Baghdad.
The flashes continue throughout the sky.
There's obviously an air raid underway right now.
The skies over Baghdad have been illuminated.
max in wisconsin
We're seeing bright.
unidentified
flashes going off all over the sky.
This is extraordinary.
If you're still with us, you can hear the bombs now.
They're hitting the center of the city.
Peter, we're hearing explosions now in Tel Aviv.
There was a missile attack.
The U.S. government is confirming that there has been a missile attack on Tel Aviv.
What you're reporting is a major building has been hit in Tel Aviv.
that victims of a chemical warfare attack have been taken to a hospital.
There were loud explosions, obviously bombing in at least three parts of the outskirts of the city.
I gather that people throughout the country have been ordered to put their gas masks on.
That's correct.
Cannot tell you how in the middle of the night this comes as an enormous shock to people.
barton in georgia
Obviously an attack is underway.
unidentified
The whole sky lit up with these flashes continually.
Oh, now there's a huge fire that we've just seen that is due west of our position that we just heard.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Holy cow.
That was a large air burst that we saw.
it was a filling this guy They broadcast the first reports.
They may just have broadcast also the last reports live from Baghdad.
darrin mcbreen
When the bombs began to drop on Baghdad, CNN emerged as the global powerhouse in cable news, with exclusive access to live satellite feeds from Iraq.
CNN's reporters captivated audiences worldwide.
However, allegations have surfaced questioning the authenticity of some of CNN's coverage, particularly regarding the Scud missile threat.
The use of piped in sound effects Hey, could someone please put that in?
and controlled camera angles like never panting to the sky when Scud missiles are coming in suggest a staged setup and the reporter's body language looked exaggerated like a theatrical performance.
unidentified
I have to apologize for that.
I thought if it was something you felt momentarily dizzy, you're more experienced.
darrin mcbreen
CD, if you need to take cover I noticed that you've got your gas mask in your hands if you need to put it on please do so if you need to take cover please do so there were also off camera moments that have surfaced revealing that during commercial breaks the crew's demeanor changed abruptly as soon as the live feeds cut off they were suddenly relaxed and even laughing and joking with each other but
when they went back to live coverage the theatrical threat of Scud missile attacks continued.
unidentified
We heard another dull roar that shook things a little bit, and we're waiting to see what else is going on.
Right now, that's about all we know that something is happening.
and pops and things shaking.
*music*
darrin mcbreen
The Kuwaiti Girls' testimony was a master class in propaganda.
Take an emotional story, amplify it through the media, and use it to shape policy and manipulate the masses.
Today, the tools have evolved through more sophisticated news cycles and social media.
But the strategy remains the same.
Craft a narrative, pull our heart strings, and drown out the truth.
Naria's testimony showed how easily public opinion can be swayed when powerful interests control the story.
So be aware.
Now you know the art of selling war.
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Everybody's going totally insane about it.
I'm going to be taking it.
This is next level.
And I'll be completely honest with you.
Everybody's been telling me take colosterone for years.
It's hard for me to start taking a supplement once I do and it works.
I stay on it.
I'm going to be taking this.
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