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June 16, 2025 - War Room - Owen Shroyer

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Iran-Israel War Threatens To Tarnish Trump Second Term As Globalists Goad USA Into Entering Conflict

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unidentified		The silent majority is no longer silent.
		This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer.
		Please stand by for further details.
		We return you now to your regularly scheduled program.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was another wacky, wild weekend of American politics, geopolitics, and debate.
		Here on this Monday, June 16th, 2025 InfoWars War Room Transmission, the fastest three hours on the internet, we're going to break it all down for you.
		Now, I could understand deciding, well, I'm not going to make three hours about a single issue or at least the majority of this transmission about a single issue.
		There's all kinds of other issues.
		Many of them, they're trying to drag our attention away, I think, from the bigger issue, which is the Israel-Iran war.
		And I will explain why I believe that is the biggest issue right now that we're facing.
		Certainly, I could cover the No Kings protests that was pretty much a nothing burger this weekend, and that's because our attention was turned away from it.
		So if you think about it from that dynamic, once again, and I know I've said this before, but this is just another example.
		Once again, we'll call it the right wing, for lack of a better phrase, the Trump base, the populist base, populist movement.
		Once again, we're having real debates about real issues that will really affect the future.
		Okay?
		So, I'm not going to sit here and obsess over major league stadiums, pledge allegiance to the gay trans flag.
		I can talk about that.
		I'm not going to spend much time talking about the No Kings protest, which pretty much flatlined this weekend.
		It was a nothing burger that, you know, got a lot of hype, got a lot of build for obvious reasons, and then was basically a nothing burger over the weekend.
		So, yeah, we could play some of that, show you some of the highlights, how it went down, but mostly a nothing burger.
		We could talk about the changing stance on mass deportations.
		We will actually spend a little time on that.
		There are some important developments there that we can get to.
		But no, the issue of the Israel-Iran war is the top issue, which in and of itself, it's a separate story that shows how make America great again has never really been realized.
		How America First and Make America Great Again, which has been a nice catchphrase.
		It's been a successful political marketing campaign.
		And yet, here we are again.
		The biggest issue is about foreign countries.
		It's about a foreign conflict.
		So we're still nowhere near Make America Great Again.
		And yet we have to talk about it.
		We have to debate it.
		Because it will determine the future of MAGA.
		It will determine Trump's legacy.
		And it will determine where this populist base that has gotten so much momentum and political power, it could overwhelm the system.
		I mean, we could overwhelm the system and make America great again.
		And now here we go again.
		It is likely going to be splintered, fractured.
		Because of a foreign country and a foreign war.
		Now, I'm going to get into the details about all of that coming up.
		And then we got a lot of video clips.
		I'll go down the headlines with the latest developments.
		But I'm going to explain why it's the biggest issue and why it's not just a cheap distraction.
		You've got Trump speaking at the G7.
		And notice even with that, notice even with that, usually Trump speaking, Trump doing some political action, it takes all the gravity, it gets all the attention, it's not doing it.
		It's not doing it because everybody sees exactly what's going on with the Israel-Iran situation.
		And maybe unintentionally, or maybe it was always going to be this way.
		Now, people are looking at this and deciding, okay, and this happens after every...
		People are saying, okay, there really is a realignment happening.
		But it's hyperspeed now.
		It's not like going to play out over two, four years.
		Now it's going to play out in probably the next four weeks, this new political alignment.
		All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to lay out for you why the Israel-Iran war is the most important issue right now in the geopolitical conversation.
		And I know we've been having it for about a week.
		That's because we foresaw all of this coming.
		We wanted to avoid it.
		That was the purpose of all the commentary last week and before.
		We wanted to avoid getting to this point, but we're here now.
		So there's no avoiding it now.
		We're in it, and now decisions will be made that will no doubt affect the MAGA movement, the populist movement, President Trump's legacy.
		And where the United States of America goes from here, or if America first or make America great again, will have any say for the rest of this Trump administration.
		I'm not being dramatic.
		Do not doubt me on this.
		And understand, because a lot of people have trouble with this concept, what I'm reporting here is not opinion.
		These are easily observable facts that I'm reporting to you.
		So let's just start with the basics.
		Obviously, the exchanges between Israel and Iran.
		We get a lot of stuff that we can say we know for sure, and then there's a lot of propaganda that's going around as well.
	I'll kind of highlight some of that later.
	Obviously, there have been deaths on both sides.
	The difference is this.
	The United States of America has subsidized the existence of Israel since World War II.
	So there's a big difference from the American standpoint of being critical of Israel's government than there is of Iran's government.
	I don't subsidize Iran's government.
	I don't pay for Iran's government.
	But I do for Israel.
	So that's the difference.
	So me being a critique of the Israeli government or military, I have more than a right to do so since my tax dollars pay for it.
	Can't say that about Iran.
	Now, all the commentary that we see regarding the Israel situation or the American-Israeli relations, you notice...
	So if I'm talking about Israel over here, they'll say, well, what, you support Iran?
	No, I do not support Iran.
	Well, do you want Iran to have nukes?
	No, I do not want Iran to have nukes.
	But this is the straw man that they try to lob into this arena.
	To distract you from the actual conversation and debate, which is, should America get involved in another war in the Middle East?
	And then maybe the larger issue, which is, should Israel, or why does Israel have so much control over our foreign policy and our military?
	Now, we can get into some of that later with some of these headlines.
	But let me explain what is at stake now for Donald Trump, but more importantly, for MAGA.
	What Donald Trump did and what we did in creating this MAGA coalition, which is bigger than ever, more popular than ever, had virtually zero political leverage 10 years ago to now almost total political leverage, except we're learning for one exception.
	That's from Israel.
	They still seem to have more leverage than we do.
	But we've gained all this leverage in 10 years.
	It's a populist movement, and we're really at a certain point right now where if we can keep it intact and keep it going forward and focus on the things that actually make America great again and put America first, then we can politically drag the country out of the muck and have a vision.
	And a realization of what Make America Great Again actually means.
	But now here comes Israel.
	And now this issue of Israel and Iran getting into a war is on the brink of fracturing the MAGA movement.
	There is no doubt about it.
	And if Trump gets involved, if Trump gets the US military involved, In Iran, which, look, people are asking me all weekend, I say it like this.
	My heart tells me no.
	People ask me, Owen, do you think we're going to a war with Iran?
	My heart tells me no.
	My heart tells me Donald Trump isn't going to do this to us.
	My heart is saying, nope, it's not going to happen.
	Israel will have to fight this on their own.
	And then my head tells me, your heart's crazy.
	We're going to war with Iran.
	So my heart says, no, America won't be involved.
	My head says, yes, America's getting involved in a war with Iran.
	And that's likely just because my head is processing the history and how it's repeating itself and seeing how Trump is being influenced right now.
	And then, of course, my heart, which we've sacrificed a lot.
	To support Trump, this is one of the biggest promises, not getting us involved in another war, so maybe that's just my heart.
	Maybe in denial.
	We shall see.
	But here's what's going to happen.
	If the United States of America does end up in a war with Iran, which you could argue is already happening since we subsidize Israel and they control our Congress with with APAC.
	So really, that's the issue here.
	Is that because we're attached at the hip geopolitics?
	So when you see this propaganda from Netanyahu, which has been the same propaganda for 30 years, which is why it's so crazy that some people still fall for it, or maybe there's something else going on with said people.
	But it's been the same propaganda for 30 years.
	But when you see Netanyahu say, oh, they consider Israel little Satan, America big Satan.
	Well, yeah, that's because...
	I don't know.
	You have all these different countries in that region that aren't very favorable of Israel, or it's probably more accurately stated, they're not in favor of Israeli government right now.
	They're not in favor of Netanyahu right now and the Likud party right now.
	That might be more fair to say.
	It might be more fair to say it's just Israel in general.
	And then, of course, you have the aspect of the hatred between Jews and Muslims, but I don't think that's what's at stake here.
	I don't think that's what's really going on here.
	Israel has been using and abusing the United States taxpayer and government for years, and so that's why they call America the big Satan.
	It's not because of anything we do on our own accord.
	It's not because the American people are doing anything.
	It's because of what Israel does.
	And then whenever it's time for Israel to face the music, here comes the United States of America to turn off the speakers.
	So, yes, all the disasters in the Middle East with our blood and treasure, tens of thousands of Americans dead, trillions of dollars over there has been a disaster.
	This has mostly been influenced by.
	Think about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.
	And Saddam Hussein.
	Now, flip, like it's a mad lib, three words.
	And it's now Iran, and it's now nuclear weapons, and it's now the Ayatollah.
	It's now the leaders of Iran.
	So it's the exact same script.
	Exact same.
	And what's even crazier about it is that Trump knows this.
	That's what's so strange.
	Trump was one of the biggest figures really since the 90s, but post 9-11, talking about the Bush wars, he was one of the biggest critics.
	He's called Netanyahu a liar.
	I've got all the clips.
	We'll play them.
	That's what makes this whole thing so strange.
	And why people are scratching their head and saying, well, what happened to Trump?
	I'm not going to make this about Trump, except I will say this.
	And this is why it's such an important issue politically for our time.
	Considering everything the MAGA movement has done and all the ground we've gained in the last 10 years.
	So forget about the motives from President Trump.
	Forget about that part of the conversation.
	If Trump gets us into a war in Iran, the MAGA base will split.
	The populist movement, the MAGA base will split.
	It will be fractured.
	It's very likely the Republicans will lose the House, probably the general in 2028.
	And what you're going to see is the entire political alignment, mostly from a media standpoint.
	Which does happen every election cycle, but it's going to be hyperspeed now.
	The entire political media landscape will be reshuffled and reorganized, and we will go back 25 years to the Bush years.
	That's where it will go.
	So, it'll be the same type of coalitions fractured out of the right, it'll be the same type of coalitions fractured out of the left, and it'll be the same type of debates.
	About foreign entanglements and foreign wars that we had in the Bush years.
	And of course, what did the Bush years bring us?
	They brought us Barack Obama.
	So what do you think is going to come after Trump if this happens?
	You're going to get an AOC.
	You're going to get an AOC.
	You're going to get a Gavin Newsom.
	That's where all of this goes.
	So if we blow this deal up, if we blow this MAGA coalition up, if we blow this populist movement up, That we have done incredible things, miraculous things with in the last 10 years?
	With President Trump as the leader?
	We will go back to the Bush years.
	We will reset the entire political cycle 25 years back.
	The MAGA coalition populist movement will be completely fractured.
	It will have to reset under someone else.
	Who?
	Who knows?
	It will create a giant void as far as the leadership of MAGA is concerned or America First is concerned.
	And again, say what you want.
	I'm not going to make this about Trump.
	Because I hope Trump will still do the right thing.
	And I believe that we can still have an influence on Trump.
	Not the warmongers that Tucker Carlson called out by name that are in Trump's ear.
	Which are the same people in Bush's ear.
	And now you see the patterns.
unidentified		And now you see the patterns.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not going to blame this all on Trump or look at Trump.
		I'm going to still hold out hope that Trump will do the right thing.
		If he doesn't, then...
		But I think there's some evidence that Trump knows this is happening.
		And it was all over the news this weekend.
		And they're claiming it was a rift between him and Tucker.
		I don't know if I believe that.
		I think that's a media spin.
		I think it's more Trump realizing a lot of his base wants nothing to do with this war.
		I mean, if you really want to say it with a bit of an edge.
		Trump may be realizing a lot of his base is fully anti-Israel.
		So it's kind of crossed a barrier now.
		It's beyond just we don't want foreign entanglements.
		Now it's fully anti-Israel.
		And I mean, how can you not watch the developments as a neutral observer in the last week?
		How can you not watch the different parties at play here over the last week and realize what's going on?
		MAGA is not getting into another war.
		There is no debate about this.
		There is no single poll that indicates MAGA wants to get into another war.
		It's quite the opposite.
		No matter who posts a poll, no matter how they frame the question, MAGA wants nothing to do with the Middle East.
		And it's not MAGA.
		And it's definitely not conservative.
		So what do you think is going to happen?
		After people fought for 10 years, for 10 years, to get MAGA to this point, what do you think is going to happen when a bunch of people who jumped on board in this last election have foreign countries' flags in their bios and are telling you MAGA is going to war with Iran?
		What do you think is going to happen?
		Of course, of course MAGA is going to sour on Israel.
		Do you really think American patriots, we're not, see, we might be reset in the media atmosphere back to the Bush years, but as far as the culture of being an American patriot is concerned, as far as the culture of American politics is concerned, that can't be reset.
		That's permanent.
		So the media landscape can reset, the culture cannot.
		So believe me, the MAGA base And then it's going to be people
		that have a loyalty to Israel more so than to the United States.
		And there's no way of...
		That is what is happening.
		This is not my opinion.
		This is what is happening.
		So, you can think I'm doing an opinion to open the show.
		No, that is what is happening.
		100%.
		And notice, Tucker Carlson did a heroic act over the weekend, and he gets attacked for it, and they say Qatar agent, which is most likely projection.
		Because these people are all agents of Israel, but since they don't have to register with the Foreign Registration Act, they don't have to divulge that they're actually agents of Israel.
		So they're all probably getting paid by Israel, paid by AIPAC, to tell you Carlson's getting paid by Qatar, which of course he's not.
		But that's all projection.
		They're the ones that take the foreign money, not Tucker Carlson.
		And then how do you think that's going to go?
		When you're telling average Americans...
		How do you think that's going to go?
		And then they're going to find out, well, who are these people calling me a Qatari agent?
		Who are these people calling me a terrorist?
		Oh, it's an Israeli.
		So I think there's two developments that...
		And that's U.S.-Israel relations from a cultural level will be completely destroyed.
		Completely destroyed.
		Yeah, Israel will maintain control of our Congress and maybe our White House for another session or two, maybe.
		I'd say, I'd say, Matt.
		In 20 years, it'll be anti-Israel.
		It's all happening right before your eyes.
		So, I would say even Netanyahu realizes this.
		I would say all the agents of Israel realize this, and that's why they're so desperate right now, and that's why they're so desperate to get this regime change right now, because they know they only have so much more time.
		But in that process, they're destroying whatever reputation they had with anybody who's being a fair and neutral observer.
		And if you want to just play it on generational lines or age lines, which you can as well, in 20 years, 60%, and you hate to be morbid like this, but it's a reality, in 20 years, about 60% Of the American support for Israel will literally be dead.
		They'll be dead.
		These are old people.
		They've been following the propaganda for years.
	They're still stuck on the corporate news.
	But they'll be dead.
	And this younger generation does not feel that loyalty to Israel.
	And now the temperature is so hot and the relationship is so soured.
	Whatever happens next to get the United States into this war, they will blame on Israel.
	So it really doesn't even matter what happens.
	It could be a leftist terror attack.
	It could be an Islamic jihad sleeper cell, military sleeper cell come in under the Biden years.
	It could be an Israeli false flag.
	It won't matter.
	They will blame Israel, and then that will become the debate.
	And then anything they do following that will be looked at as, here's Israel controlling our foreign policy again.
	Here's Israel using our military again.
	And Tucker Carlson does the heroic act.
	Of telling you who called President Trump and is telling him to strike Iran and telling him to get the military involved in the war.
	And I'll try to remember all the names if you guys can pull up the tweet that he posted.
	But it's Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Miriam Adelson, Ike Pulmetter.
	I think that might be it.
	But he names them all by name.
	Now you tell me, do the American people have a right to know who is influencing the President of the United States to get involved in another war in the Middle East?
	There it is right there.
	Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Rupert Murdoch, Ike Perlmutter, and Miriam Adelson.
	These are the people in Trump's ear telling him to get into a war with Iran.
	Now you tell me, do the American people deserve to know Who is influencing the President of the United States to get us involved in another foreign conflict at the behest of Israel?
	Do the American people deserve that or no?
	And why would people like Mark Levin be so panicked when it's exposed that he's the one in Trump's ear?
	If Levin knew what he was doing was right...
	He wouldn't be freaking out and spiraling out of control when this information came out.
	He knows he's been shown as a liar.
	He knows he's been shown as a fraud.
	By the way, Mark Levin was a never-Trumper in 2016.
	He said he would never support Trump.
	He said he was never going to vote for Donald Trump.
	Now he wants to dictate MAGA?
	And I see people saying, well, gee, Owen, you're not usually so spicy on X. What's the deal?
	Well, let me tell you.
	Because, and it's not just about me, by the way, but I am involved.
	But this isn't about me.
	But yeah, we, we, me, this team at InfoWars, this InfoWars audience, all of our guests, everything else, we, we built MAGA.
	We built MAGA.
	So you're damn right I'm not going to sit here and let some scumbag like Mark Levin steal it from us.
	So yeah, I am a little spicy.
	Now, if Team Military Industrial Complex and Team Foreign Country Influence wins and gets their war in Iran, fine.
	I'll take the L gladly and I'll say congratulations Israel.
	Congratulations, military-industrial complex.
	You won.
	You got the final say over America.
	You got the final influence over Donald Trump.
	You won.
	Congratulations.
	I'm still going to fight the same battles.
	It's still the same people.
	So if they pull it off, then fine.
	Now, you have to wonder from Trump's perspective here, obviously with the people telling him to do this, the people telling him not to do this, He has to realize that this is going to kill his approval rating and destroy his legacy.
	Now, maybe he's cut—I mean, if I'm being truly conspiratorial, maybe he's cut some deal already.
	And as long as he, you know, gets involved in the Middle East, then they'll treat him like he's the best thing ever and build a 30-foot statue in D.C. and all this other crap.
	But certainly, I think the story where he's lashing out shows that he knows a lot of his base is souring over this issue.
	So we'll play the clips and the headlines on the other side.
	By the way, there's unconfirmed reports, and I warned you there'd be all kinds of propaganda.
	We'll cover some of it now.
	But there's unconfirmed reports that Ali Khamenei is dead.
	This is not confirmed.
	There's also reports that President Trump has already notified Israel that the U.S. military will join them in their offense against Iran.
	This is also not confirmed, as far as I can tell, but these two things are floating around.
	Now, here's what I do have in the headlines right now.
	A battered Iran signals it wants to de-escalate hostilities with Israel and negotiate.
	Okay, perfect.
	Right on schedule.
	So, okay, then you'd say, good job, Israel.
	You're offensive and the exchange has brought us back to the negotiating table and America didn't have to get involved.
	Well, at the end of the day, Netanyahu doesn't want that.
	You know what I'm beginning to suspect?
	Actually, I suspected it weeks ago when he started flaming out because Trump kicked his spies out of the conversations and then started talking to the Houthis and talking to the Hamas leadership without Israel in the room.
	And Netanyahu started flipping out.
	I think Netanyahu is scared that if Trump is having negotiations with the people that Israel claims are the enemies...
	A liar.
	And a bad actor.
	So I think that's why Netanyahu is so panicked.
	And he doesn't want Trump talking to the Houthis.
	He doesn't want Trump talking to Hamas.
	He doesn't want Trump talking to Iran.
	Because it will expose himself as a complete liar.
	So Iran says, okay, let's negotiate.
	So what does Netanyahu say?
	Well, we're going to kill Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.
	Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he won't rule out killing Iran's Supreme Leader.
	Says it would end the conflict.
unidentified		Wow.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if somebody said that about Netanyahu, which might be more accurate.
		So, Iran wants to get back to the negotiating table, and what does Netanyahu do?
		He ups the hostility.
		Just like he did in Gaza.
		When Hamas was negotiating with the Trump administration and Netanyahu was left out, he bombed Gaza again, killing hundreds of people.
		Same thing with the Houthis.
		Trump's negotiating with the Houthis, said, okay, we're having good negotiations.
		Israel comes in and bombs them again.
unidentified		Look, I don't know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I kind of get the feeling that this is going to be the theme for the rest of this administration.
		There's going to be a lot of hard pills to swallow.
		And whether President Trump wants to either intentionally dish them out or unintentionally dish them out, this is what's going to happen.
		Because again, is it intentional with Trump?
		I mean, this is like, this is so bad.
		It really is like Q level.
unidentified		Really.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I'm no follower of Q. I don't promote the Q talking points.
		But, like, one of the big Q things was Trump is going to expose Israel.
		So it's like, well, Israel has definitely been exposed and their favorability in the United States of America is lower than it's probably ever been.
		Is that Trump wittingly or unwittingly Doing that.
		I don't know.
		But that's how bad it is.
		So I get it.
		It's a hard pill to swallow.
		It's a hard pill to swallow that COVID was made in a lab and was released into America as a bioweapon.
		It's a hard pill to swallow that they created an experimental injection in response to COVID and then forced you to take it knowing it could kill you.
		It's a hard pill to swallow.
		It's a hard pill to swallow.
		To realize that September 11th was an inside job.
		And that explosives were placed on those buildings to bring them down in a controlled demolition.
		Now, have the debate about who was involved.
		It's likely just like the JFK assassination.
		You probably had multiple parties involved.
		Multiple different reasons.
		Everybody had a little interest in the game to kill JFK.
		Just like probably a lot of people had their hands in the game to take down the Twin Towers.
		But it was an inside job.
		Folks, we can't even get the JFK files.
		Victims of the 9-11 families can't even get the 9-11 files.
		So yeah, that's going to be the theme.
		There's going to be some hard pills to swallow.
		Now, the hardest of which could end up being Trump has sold out MAGA.
		I'm not there yet.
		I still have hope for Trump.
		I think he really does want peace.
		I think he's got a lot of people in there.
		Trying to steer him in a million different directions.
		He's just trying to navigate it all and run the country and it's just like all this noise and everything.
		And Trump's the best option we have.
		I'm not changing any of that.
		And I still believe all that.
		But how can you deny it?
		When this man for years has been calling Netanyahu a liar, when this man ran multiple campaigns saying no more forever wars, we're not getting involved in the Middle East, and even said it in his inaugural address.
unidentified		Just a few months ago.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what else am I supposed to believe?
		I don't live in la-la land.
		I don't live on a Ferris wheel with circus music playing.
		I live in the real world.
		I see the things happening around me.
		Oh, Iran's ready to come to the table.
		Netanyahu says, not so fast.
		We'll kill you before we do that.
		We will kill you before we come to the negotiating table, says Netanyahu.
		Wait till you see the latest propaganda from Netanyahu.
		But here you go.
		By the way, it wasn't just President Trump.
		But let's go back to President Trump.
		Tell me.
		Stings a little.
		Here's what President Trump said at his inauguration.
		Go ahead.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We will measure our success not only by the battles we win.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		But also by the wars that we end, and perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Most importantly, the wars we never get into.
		And just so you understand, the next straw man that comes, we do not support Iran.
		I do not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
		And if Israel wants to have a war with Iran, fine, go for it.
		If Israel believes that's the best thing for their country, if Israel thinks it's the best case scenario for the Israelis and whoever else is their allies in the region, whatever, if they think that's the best case going forward, then go!
		Go!
		Go all the way, Israel!
		I'm not telling you to not do it.
		I'm just telling you we don't want to be involved.
		And if you try to get us involved, your favorability will go lower than ever.
		The MAGA coalition will be totally broken and have to hit the reset button and in 10 to 20 years, Israel will lose all support from the United States of America.
		But go ahead!
		Then there was J.D. Vance at the 250th anniversary parade of the army and he said this.
unidentified		And so to our soldiers, We're so proud of you, and let me tell you that the way that we honor and respect you is, number one, we never ask you to go to war unless you absolutely have to, and number two, when we do ask you to go to war, we give you the weapons and the support needed to kick the hell out of the enemy and come back home safely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, I don't know if you watched the parade.
		It was all right, I guess.
		It was kind of cool to see all the different military uniforms from all the different wars and all the different generations, and saw some cool aircraft as well.
		But, do you really want to know what this parade was about?
		Did you watch it?
		It was a nice fireworks show at the end, too.
		You know, some patriotism.
		Had a decent turnout.
		I'm sure the No King stuff turned some people off.
		It was an alright turnout.
		I'm sure they would have liked to have all the bleachers filled and everything else, but it was okay.
		But if you watched it, you noticed what it was really about.
		It was a giant recruitment ad for the military.
		That's what it was.
		And it was literally sponsored by Lockheed Martin and Palantir, amongst others.
		Now, I get it from Donald Trump's perspective to say, hey, we're going to have a 250th anniversary.
		We're going to celebrate the Army.
		We're going to build morale.
		And then we're going to get some of the biggest benefactors of the military contracts to pay for it.
		So I get it from that perspective.
		I'm not even...
		I'm just telling you what happened in case you missed it.
		So, yeah, President Trump got some people from the defense sector to pay for it.
		You know, he got the big benefactors of major government contracts to pay for the parade.
		Hey, that's great.
		You know, lessen the burden on the U.S. taxpayer.
		Get the private sector to pay for some of it.
		It's going to benefit.
		And there were some other sponsors as well.
		So, okay, that's fine.
		I'm okay with that.
		But then it's like this constant recruitment ad.
		It's sign up here.
		Recruit.
		Best time ever.
		Brought to you by Lockheed.
		Brought to you by Palantir.
		And so I'm sitting here watching it with the backdrop of everything and I'm like, wow.
		Now, what are the odds of this?
		and I don't even think it's coming from the West.
		I think if anybody...
		And if anybody was using that, it was Netanyahu.
		It was Netanyahu to say, hey, I know Trump's got this big military parade coming up, so I'm going to start the next war right when he's doing that.
		Right when he's doing it.
		Discount that as a possibility.
		And before you say, oh, well, it's just a parade and most people don't.
		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		Folks, they do this stuff with a purpose.
		It wasn't just a parade.
		I guarantee you they got recruitment numbers up yesterday.
		Guarantee you.
		Abso-freaking-lutely they did.
		So, again, I'm not even saying this is inherently a bad thing.
		And then it becomes this issue, and it's like, okay, well, what would you do if you had children?
		What would you do if you had an 18-year-old son, 20-year-old son, and they said, Dad, I want to join the military.
		I want to join the Army.
		What would you say to them after everything we've witnessed?
		In the last 72 hours, what would you say to them?
		Is it unpatriotic to say, don't?
		Is that unpatriotic?
		It kind of feels like it.
		It kind of feels a little, you know, like, huh.
		There's a little self-reflection there.
		It's like, wait a second.
	Don't join the military.
	Don't join the army.
	But then again, you look at it and you say, I mean, this would be my general stance.
	If you want to join the military because you want to get the best training in the world, or you just want to get some of that experience, maybe you just got it in you, you got that warrior mentality, you just want to join, you want to get in uniform, you want to go on the missions.
	So if you're somebody that wants that experience, wants that combat training, maybe just wants a career, Whatever it is, then by all means, you'll get that from the U.S. military.
	But if you're joining the U.S. military for patriotic reasons, because you think you need to defend the homeland, then don't, because that's not what you're going to do.
	And all signs are pointing to, yep, we're going back into the Middle East.
	It's 2001 Afghanistan.
	It's 2003 Iraq all over again.
	I hope that's not the case.
	I hope we can steer President Trump away from that decision.
	You've already got massive military mobilization into the region.
	You had the giant recruitment ad this weekend.
	You've got Netanyahu trying to force President Trump across the finish line by engaging in these strikes.
	And that's what it was.
	And let's get into that a little bit here.
	Netanyahu claims I've got some of his propaganda videos from over the weekend.
	The guy makes me so sick and so nauseous.
	It's almost like I can't even play them.
	It's like if I had to choose between...
	You know, there's the two girls, one cup thing?
	Yeah, I think I'd rather watch that than watch Netanyahu.
	That's how disgusting he makes me.
	That's how sickened I am from Netanyahu.
	Lying to us for years.
	And now completely on the brink of destroying the mega coalition.
	He knew exactly what he did.
	He was forcing Trump's hand when he struck Iran.
	And now Trump kind of has to come out and play politics and say, oh yeah, well, I supported it.
	We backed it and everything.
	I think that's just playing politics because it's kind of embarrassing that you have Netanyahu lecturing the American people, addressing the American people like he's the president.
	Imagine that.
	Donald Trump didn't come out and tell you you need to go to war with Iran.
	Donald Trump didn't make an address to the American people multiple times this weekend telling you why it's so important to go to war with Iran.
	Netanyahu did.
	And it was directed at the American people.
	Is Netanyahu your president?
	Did you vote for Netanyahu?
	That's funny.
	I don't remember voting for Netanyahu.
	I don't remember his name being on the ticket.
	But yet he's addressing America like he's the president.
	I don't know how Trump can stand this guy, to be honest.
	This guy has done more to undermine President Trump's agenda than any other foreign leader.
	And then he did it again this weekend.
	So now it's like, well, what do you do?
	It's like, oh, well, you kind of have to back Israel.
	Well, you really don't, but the problem is everybody knows the repercussions if we don't.
	Everybody knows the repercussions.
	If you think this weekend was bad with the strikes, folks, Israelis will be living in bunkers for months.
	They'll be living in bunkers.
	They'll be hearing sirens and explosions for months if Donald Trump does not intervene.
	And if the United States of America does not intervene, that will become a way of life.
	They won't be enjoying themselves at the beaches.
	They won't be enjoying themselves at the gay clubs in Tel Aviv.
	They'll be living in bunkers if the U.S. does not intervene.
	So I think from Trump's heart, he's like, well, I don't want that for the Israeli people.
	But my base doesn't want us to get involved.
	And what happens?
	Netanyahu, immediately after bombing Iran, says, hey, I need your support.
	Oh, we need Europe to back us.
	Oh, we need the United States of America to back us.
	Damn well knowing what happens if they don't.
	So now Trump has to play this game.
	He has to balance it all well.
	My base doesn't want it, but also the Israelis are about to go through hell if I don't.
	So what does Netanyahu do?
	Well, he ramps up the propaganda.
	Iran was behind two assassination attempts on President Trump.
	Israeli PM Netanyahu claims in bombshell interview.
	We've got the clip.
	I'll try not to vomit when I play it.
	But, folks, do you understand?
	First of all, it's a total lie.
	Okay?
	It's just, again, why we listen to this lying Netanyahu anymore is beyond me.
	It's stunning that anybody listens to this absolute liar.
	But folks, do you understand how rude this is to President Trump and to the U.S. government?
	And I'm no fan of the U.S. government, don't get me wrong.
	But I mean, Netanyahu is basically just farting in the face, pissing in the mouth of the U.S. government here.
	Not Iran.
	There's no ties to Iran.
	The guy that was down at the Florida golf course was tied to Ukraine.
	The guy in Butler, Pennsylvania somehow had no background.
	They know nothing about him.
	He has no ties to anybody at all.
	He just wanders around like a nomad and then tries to kill the president.
	Zings one by his head, yeah.
	And they just come out and say Iran.
	Just like they told you there was an Iranian drone mothership off the East Coast that wanted to assassinate Trump.
	All Israeli propaganda, 100%.
	But they still have their outlets to get it out there.
	Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Dave Rubin, everyone on Fox News.
	You know why Tucker Carlson's not at Fox News now.
	But aside from your opinion on that, imagine that.
	Netanyahu says Iran tried to kill you, President Trump, and he's here trying to engage in negotiations with Iran.
	This is Netanyahu trying to embarrass President Trump.
	This is Netanyahu smashing an egg in Trump's face, saying, hey, Donald, are you too big of a coward to go after Iran that tried to kill you?
	I can't believe Trump can stand this guy, and maybe he can't.
	He was pushed back on this by Brett Baer.
	Here's how Netanyahu handled it, clip five.
bret baier ▲ ● ▼		I want to talk about the nuclear threat, and I want to talk about President Trump.
		You just said Iran tried to assassinate President Trump twice.
		Do you have intel that the assassination attempts on President Trump were directly from Iran?
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Through proxies, yes.
		Through their intel, yes, they want to kill him.
		Look, he's enemy number one.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He's a decisive leader.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now he's Decker.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		He never...
		He took up this fake agreement and basically tore it up.
		He killed Qasem Soleimani.
		He said, made it very clear, including now, you cannot have a nuclear weapon, which means you cannot enrich.
		He's been very forceful.
		So for them, he's a...
		Look, they also tried to kill me, but I'm his junior partner.
		They understand that President Trump is a great threat to Iran's plans to weaponize nuclear weapons and use them.
bret baier ▲ ● ▼		When did you tell President Trump you were going to launch these strikes?
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Look, I've been in constant contact with President Trump.
		We've known each other for many years.
		And obviously, we informed our American friends and President Trump, our great friend, ahead of time.
		He knew about it, of course.
bret baier ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there were reports that President Trump kind of helped you achieve your strategic surprise by publicly urging you not to attack when he already knew you had decided to do it.
bret baier ▲ ● ▼		So you were closely coordinating with the U.S. throughout this process.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Look, we're fully coordinated, but understand that America, under President Trump, will make the decisions that are best for America.
		And that's the way it is.
		He understands that I, as the Prime Minister of Israel, the one and only Jewish state.
		Must make the decisions that are important for the survival of my country, and he will do what is best for America.
		That is a relationship of mutual respect and mutual confidence.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		The one and only Jewish state.
		Well, I guess that's up for debate now.
		Here in the United States of America, huh?
		All jokes aside, you know, here's what I see.
		I see a desperate man.
		Netanyahu is a desperate man.
		He looks desperate.
		He looks weak.
		And he knows that the blood of all the Israelis that have died, whether it's 10 or 20 or 50, who knows the real numbers?
		He knows all this destruction is his fault.
		He knows it.
		He knows it damn well.
		There's no avoiding it.
		So all of the destruction, the destruction on October 7th, the following destruction in Gaza, the destruction in Iran, the destruction in Israel, it's all that blood is on Netanyahu's hands.
		All of it.
		He knows it and the world knows it.
		He's a desperate man.
		And the only hope he has to escape all of this is the U.S. getting into a war with Iran.
		That's the only hope he has.
		He's failed in the Middle East miserably with policy.
		He's failed his people.
		He's failed to keep them safe.
		He's failed in Gaza to defeat Hamas, return the hostages, and take the land.
		He's failed.
		He's a total and complete failure.
		And anyone telling you otherwise is either outright just wrong or they're paid to tell you that.
		You cannot point to, oh, look at how strong Netanyahu is going after Iran.
		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		As he begs Europe, as he begs America to have his back.
		No, he's a desperate man.
		Is what he is.
		And when I see these stories from over the weekend, Trump says America first means whatever he wants.
		He decides, well look, to me, I think Trump is hearing it, folks.
		I think, you know, Trump is a guy with a big ego.
		He likes to be well-liked.
		He likes to be popular.
		And for most of his life, he has been.
		And the fake attacks on Trump don't really hurt him, you notice.
		The fake Russia crap.
		The fake lawsuits.
		The fake, all the fake racism.
		You notice none of that stuff really phases Trump.
		Because it's all BS.
		But now people are saying, hey, you know, who's really America first now?
		Who's really America first?
		Who's really make America great again?
		And you read the stories about him, it sounds like this one is actually affecting him, folks, because he knows it's real.
		Because he knows it's real.
		This isn't some libtard.
		Democrat Party fake news propaganda.
		This is his own base.
		Saying, we don't want to get involved in Iran.
		It's not MAGA.
		It's not America First.
		And he gets asked, he says, no, I'll decide.
		I am America First.
		I am MAGA.
		I'll decide.
		That, to me, is a man who is facing something politically he hasn't since he got involved in politics.
		Real, genuine pushback from his base.
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	Quickly, I think I got time here.
	Here's, well, you know what?
	No, I need to do these on the other side.
	We need to spend more time on this, these Netanyahu clips, because...
	But it's unfortunate.
	And it's unfortunate for President Trump that, in my eyes, Netanyahu has totally betrayed him.
	And I can't say I'm surprised Netanyahu betrays anybody.
	Netanyahu betrays his own people all the time.
	So I can't say I'm surprised by it.
	But, I mean, it's just so bad.
	One of Trump's greatest promises was to keep us out of wars.
	One of MAGA's biggest political issues was peace, not war.
	And Netanyahu has sabotaged the whole thing.
	He has sabotaged the entire thing, ladies and gentlemen.
	And he's been doing it for 30 years.
	And we've got the clips to prove it.
	But the New York Times ran this headline today.
	Anti-Semitism is an urgent problem.
	Both the right and the left deserve blame for the rise in anti-Jewish hatred.
	Well, I would...
	I'd say it's more of an issue on the left when it comes to straight-up anti-Semitism and hating Jews.
	I'm not denying it's on the right.
	But see, this is all twist and contortion.
	What's happening on the right is a serious geopolitical conversation about our relationship with Israel and about our involvement in the Middle East.
	And then they just say, oh, that's anti-Semitic to even doubt that all of that is good.
	So this is a lot of twisting.
	But do you really think Israel's striking yet another country and then everybody in America that supports it, do you really think that's going to help or hurt the cause?
	I mean, come on.
	Give me a break.
	All right.
	I got other headlines to go through.
	I think this is a subject worthy of phone calls as well, for obvious reasons.
	And look, if you disagree, you can call in and disagree.
	I'll give you the time.
	If you agree, you can call in and agree.
	But here's why.
	Because we're in a tug of war right now.
	We are in a tug of war to save the MAGA coalition.
	And there's a lot of propaganda, is the best way to put it, to get you to think that, no, everybody still supports Israel no matter what.
	Everybody still wants to get involved in the Middle East.
	Everybody wants to bomb Iran.
	Everybody wants to kill the Mullahs and all this stuff.
	And it's just not true.
	It's just not true.
	So I'll open phone lines.
	We'll have some people that say, no, we want that.
	We want to go strike Iran.
	We'll have people call in and say, we're totally against it, and you can be the judge.
	But I've already seen it.
	And I'm not telling you that life revolves around X. I'm certainly not promoting that concept.
	But I do think X is the most organic form of debate and discussion now.
	And I do think that when you look at these polls...
	Every single poll is 90-10.
	MAGA does not want involved in the Middle East.
	Every single poll, no matter who puts it up, myself, Charlie Kirk, Thomas Massey, you name it.
	Every single poll is 90-10.
	We don't want to be involved in Iran or another war in the Middle East.
	That's 90-10.
	So even if you take a 30 percent, It's still 60-40.
	So fine, it's a 30% inflation towards said issue.
	You're still 60-40, which might be more accurate.
	So I got a bunch of news, but we'll put some callers on the line here as well.
	But let's talk about this.
	Do you agree that this is the MAGA coalition in the balance getting in a war in Iran?
	And then how do you feel about that?
	Maybe you think I'm wrong.
	I don't think it's MAGA to get involved in another Middle East war.
	It never has been MAGA.
	Hasn't been MAGA until now all of a sudden.
	So it's funny how that works.
	It's funny how you got a bunch of never-Trumpers and people you never heard of until 2024 now claiming they're MAGA and promoting this war.
	But that's all paid for propaganda, paid for slop.
	877-789-2539.
	877-789-2539.
	Now, here's some of those other clips, but know that this has been going on for years.
	Last week, we showed you the 30 years of Netanyahu saying Iran is two weeks away from getting a bomb.
	For 30 years, he's been saying that.
	We found a newspaper clip from 1985 saying Iran two weeks away from getting a bomb.
	1985.
	So now we're on 40 years, actually.
	I mean, we could dig this stuff up all day.
	New York Times, 1995.
	1995.
	Iran may be able to build an atomic bomb in five years.
	U.S. and Israeli officials fear.
	Okay, so that's 30 years there.
	Are you still buying it, folks?
	Tell me you're not buying it.
	And you do realize what Netanyahu did, obviously.
	He had no evidence that they were building a nuclear weapon.
	He had none.
	And the evidence that he would have had, he just blew up.
	And now the one facility that they're claiming is too deep underground, he's begging America for these bunker busters.
	That's the last proof.
	So of course he's begging.
	He wants all the evidence covered up.
	Netanyahu is trying to bury, literally, bury the evidence of his lies.
	40 years of lies.
	And he's telling you that you're going to die.
	Boy, it sounds like a Democrat.
	And isn't it funny?
	You saw this thing pop up, the woke right.
	Well, it's pretty clear who the woke right is now, isn't it?
	If you don't support Israel, you're a Nazi.
	Okay, woke right.
	If you don't support Israel, you're an anti-Semite.
	Okay, woke right.
	And now it's Netanyahu taking a page just like a leftist.
	You're going to die.
	You're going to die if you don't support it.
	Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're going to die if we don't.
		Which, I don't know.
		I might not even have brought that clip in, actually.
		Of Netanyahu saying we're all going to die.
		America dead.
unidentified		He says, oh, I love America first, but not America dead.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, the likelihood of Americans dying will be increased tenfold.
		If we get into another Mideast war.
		It's right, guys.
		Maybe I didn't send it, so that's okay.
		I was too sickened by the guy.
		Because we got some other clips we can go to.
		And now notice, now, oh, all of a sudden, Pakistan.
		Now they're talking about Pakistan, too.
		And how Pakistan is a threat.
		And now they're trying to bring the tension between India and Pakistan into the Israel situation, too.
		This also is not new.
		This is also an old technique from Netanyahu.
		Check the tape.
		Clip two.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		The mission that we have is to prevent a militant Islamic regime from meeting up with nuclear weapons or from nuclear weapons meeting up with a militant Islamic regime.
		The first is called Iran.
		The second is called Pakistan.
		Because if these radical regimes have Nuclear weapons, they will not obey the rules that have been obeyed in the last almost seven decades.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Every single piece of propaganda is recycled.
		Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, regime change.
		Iran, nuclear bombs, regime change.
		Pakistan, also a nuclear threat.
		Pakistan, also a nuclear threat.
		It's all the same recycled propaganda, folks.
		It's crazy.
		Honestly, see, you have to realize that...
		Everything Infowars has built and accomplished in 30 years is undeniable.
		And it's why they still try to shut this place down.
		It's why Alex Jones has to spend so much of his life just...
		But we tend to forget because now it's like everybody tries to be like InfoWars.
		Everybody's trying to do what InfoWars has done, and we've totally moved the Overton window permanently.
		So we kind of figure, well, now everybody is going to be able to catch up with the historical reference and the context we have for everything, but the truth is they just don't.
		People just don't know Netanyahu has been saying the same crap for 30, 40 years.
		People don't know.
		It's literally the exact same recycled propaganda.
		See, we won over the normies.
		We won over the normal conservative Republican brand type of people.
		But they're still not in the same headspace that we're at.
		So you and I see this and we say, oh, clearly this is the same propaganda they used before.
		They don't see it.
		They think, oh, we can trust things now.
		Now that Trump is here, now that we have kind of this control over the narrative, it's the same exact recycled propaganda.
		Exact same stuff.
		And so now it's Netanyahu saying, oh, support us or you'll be dead.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		It's Tel Aviv.
		Tomorrow it's New York.
		Look, I understand America first.
		I don't understand America dead.
		That's what these people want.
		They chant death to America.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So we're doing something that is in the service.
		Again, isn't this...
		They say something bad.
		Well, I got liberals that chant death to America in Seattle.
		Hell, I got liberals that chant death to America probably right down at the Texas Capitol right now.
		Should I call the IDF to blow up the Texas Capitol too?
		Yeah, hi.
		Benjamin Netanyahu, please.
unidentified		Oh, yes.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Benjamin Netanyahu.
		Yeah, somebody was saying death to America at the Texas Capitol.
		Could you blow it up for me?
		Thanks.
		So are we in the game of now words hurt us?
		Which again, even going through that, the only reason they say that is because of our support for Israel.
		But again, it's all leftism.
		It's all liberalism.
		This is why it really is.
		Honestly, the whole Israel first thing, the whole fighting anti-Semitism.
		It's Black Lives Matter for conservatives.
		It's the conservative social justice movement.
		That's why when you watch conservative news, listen to conservative radio, they have all these ads showing you some poor old Jewish woman, a Holocaust survivor.
unidentified		She's crippled over and she's starving and crying in a little hut.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, we give Israel billions of dollars.
		Where's it going?
		Tell me why.
		And again, you listen to conservative radio.
		It's the same thing.
		Give this money to help these poor Jews.
		You watch Fox News.
		Give us money to help these poor Jews.
		And you've probably all seen it.
		And it's these little old ladies crumpled over, kissing a loaf of bread in this little hut, you know, barely getting by.
		And it hurts your heart.
		You don't like to see that, but I'm just trying to figure it out.
		So what is Netanyahu doing with all the foreign aid?
		If you have these poor Jewish...
unidentified		Doesn't seem like that's our fault.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We've sent hundreds of billions of dollars in aid to Israel.
		Why are there any starving Jews?
		So it seems like Netanyahu is keeping that money from them.
		But see, it's the same difference.
		It's all, it's social justice warrior, it's virtue signal just for conservatives.
		It's the same, it's the exact same thing.
		And when you watch the leftist side, they do the opposite, except it's for, you know, minorities or gays or blacks.
		But it's the same thing.
		Look at the victim over here.
		It's all political.
		Support them.
		And it's just all propaganda.
		It's just all propaganda.
		Alright, I got some more clips of Netanyahu.
		We got more headlines too.
		We're gonna go in and out of that.
		But we have an interesting caller on the line, Mike, who's in Israel.
		He's in the Golan Heights.
		I'm sure that's been interesting lately.
		Dual citizen and serving in the IDF.
		Mike is on the line.
		Go ahead, Mike.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Owen.
		I listen to you all the time, but I've got to do it through a VPN.
		You can't get your show over here, let me tell you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, wow, that's crazy.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Now, I am not a Jew.
		My mother is Israeli Catholic.
		Her family's from Nazareth, which is in the northern part of the country.
		A lot of stuff that you've been saying about Prime Minister Netanyahu is accurate.
		I'm a member of Likud.
		I'm a Republican in the United States, voted for President Trump.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Real quickly before you move on, Netanyahu's approval rating is at about 30% right now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is that accurate?
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		That is accurate.
		And a lot of it is because the liberal New York Jews who do not want to fight for our country at any cost, they wouldn't mind if we were overrun by Palestinians and had Palestinians telling them what to do.
		Where you are wrong, though, Owen, in your assessment, is that the country of Israel is a tiny, tiny entity the size of New Jersey.
		So in order for us to exist, we have to have the United States on our side.
		That has to do with Mossad in the United States, which is a fact.
		And it has to do with Mossad and our country, by whatever means of propaganda, to manipulate the United States voters to vote pro-Israel and to give us money and weapons, because otherwise we do not exist.
		So what you're saying is accurate.
		But from the perspective of an Israeli soldier who is here fighting these dirtball demons, Who are shooting missiles into Tel Aviv, and it's not the same the other way around because when we launch on the Iranians, we warn them.
		When we launch into Lebanon, we warn the people to leave ahead of time, sometimes two days ahead of time.
		There is a big difference.
		I am here on the front line fighting the most evil human beings on the planet.
		Who want to destroy my country just because of our religion.
		So, a lot of what you're saying is accurate from the perspective of an American, but from the perspective of an Israeli, it's necessary.
		Otherwise, my country ceases to exist.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, okay.
		So let me roll with this.
		Obviously, you see that...
		Is that recognized right now in Israel?
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Well, what you have to remember, Owen, is that the American Jews that live here are liberal, okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		80%.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		All of Tel Aviv, like you rightly observed, you know, we have a gay community there.
		That's against both the Catholic religion and the Jewish religion.
		Doesn't matter.
		Those are American Jews.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's basically in San Francisco, except without all the feces on the streets.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		That is a perfect analogy.
		I would never go down to Tel Aviv or take my children or my family down there.
		Never would do that.
		I live in Nazareth, which people know that's where our blessed Lord Jesus Christ grew up.
		And they're very devout, well, percentage-wise, very devout Christians in Nazareth and in the Galilee.
		I'm defending my hometown.
		I'm defending my region of the Galilee, because I'm a reservist now, okay?
		I can't give any more details than that.
		But I was called up, and I'm defending not Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.
		I'm defending my hometown as a reservist from this area.
		And I'm going to tell you, Owen, just like every American serviceman in the Marine Corps, the Army, the Air Force, Who would defend the United States to their death?
		I will defend my part of Israel to the death from people who want to kill my people.
		And see, that's what I think.
		And I don't want to be overly critical because a lot of what you're saying is true.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that our rub here is that I come off a little cold-hearted as an American.
		Whether it's righteous or not, I guess you can debate.
		But yeah, I am a little cold-hearted.
		And I guess, you know, the qualifier here is, and I hate to play this stupid game, but it is what it is.
		I'm obviously not an anti-Semite.
		I'm not even anti-Israel.
		I'm just against Netanyahu.
		I think Netanyahu, really if I had to boil it down, I think Netanyahu is a problem.
		I think Netanyahu is keeping the world from peace.
		I think he's keeping the region from peace.
		I think he's making Israel into a pariah state like it's never been before.
		And so that's really my issue, and I think that when you live in America, I don't know what it's like in the Israeli media.
		I don't know.
		But the American media, you're not getting that story.
		Here it's, oh, everybody agrees with Netanyahu.
		Netanyahu's the greatest thing ever, and it's just not true.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		The Israeli media currently is run by the intelligence service, okay, just like any other country during war, all right?
		So you're not getting balanced reporting.
		You're getting rah-rah IDF, rah-rah IDF, okay, in the papers and all of that.
		But you have to remember, Owen, we have missiles blowing up apartment complexes in Tel Aviv, okay?
		That's what's happening to my country right now.
		Now, thankfully, up in the north, we haven't gotten too much of it.
		But you know what's coming next?
		If we hadn't preemptively hit Iran?
		Nuclear missile, Owen.
		Okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's where I would disagree.
		I don't believe that.
		They've been telling us that for 30 years.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		True.
		But again, you have to understand that propaganda for pro-Israel feeling is necessary for the existence of my country.
		Okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So here's going to be, I think this is going to be the problem.
		But the issue is that Americans feel the same way.
		We feel our country is under attack.
		We feel our country is on the brink.
		We just had an invasion.
		And so people just...
		America First MAGA is just...
		We're not concerned about the plight of the Israelis anymore.
		We're concerned about our own issues.
		And we feel like Netanyahu is intentionally lying to us to try to subvert that.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Every person should always put their own country first.
		That's called patriotism.
		I totally understand that.
		And having grown up in Texas, which I grew up in Tyler, okay?
		I know all about that.
		But this is the point.
		I'm giving you the Israeli perspective.
		I totally respect the American perspective that you are putting forward on.
		Totally do.
		The Israeli perspective, though, is this.
		Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister Netanyahu, is doing his job for the Israeli people.
		To keep funding coming in from the United States, to keep weapons and ammunition and resupply coming in from the United States.
		And I know we got a bad rap about Gaza and the northern Lebanon area, but we had to defeat them before we could hit Iran.
		And President Trump has known about this since he came into office, and the CIA has known about it for two years.
		Okay?
		This has been planned and supported by the United States for two years now.
		The intelligence and the military.
unidentified		That's a lot of things that isn't getting out of the American media.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Here's my final question.
		We're about out of time here.
		Are American boots on the ground right now?
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		They're flying over our heads.
		The United States Air Force is here.
		American Special Forces is operating with us in the Golan Heights Green Berets and SEALs, and the American military is here getting ready to move into the next phase.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's Operation Trident 25. Well, again, and I said this at the opening, this is not my opinion, and I'm glad you called in, but...
		Israel is going to lose more support.
		MAGA doesn't want this war.
		It's going to be bad for Trump's base.
		So what I'm saying is for good or bad, for good or bad, whether or not all this stuff ends up being for good or bad for Israel, whatever, America's over it, man.
		It's done.
		It's going to be the Bush years all over again.
		The Democrats will get power.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Israel will win this war.
		Iran's regime will topple.
		And the Persian people will regain control of their countries.
		Well, I hope that's how it turns out.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I hope not a single American dies in that process.
		And that's going to be like beyond the difficulty of threading a needle.
		But I hope you're right, Mike.
		I'm glad you got in today.
		I appreciate you tuning in through a VPN because I guess we're blocked wherever it is you're at.
		And I hope everybody there stays safe in Nazareth as the bombs are raining down on Tel Aviv, no doubt.
		We also had an Iranian TV studio get hit.
		And who knows?
		There's so much propaganda.
		This could be propaganda.
		The Israeli TV studio claiming they got hit in the middle of a broadcast here on clip one if we want to play that.
		Yeah, go ahead, guys.
unidentified		Good.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, that could be propaganda.
		You got some IDF, some Israel accounts on X that got caught sharing fake videos and old videos.
		Kind of like how they got caught with the images of the babies being beheaded, being AI.
		So, there's all kinds of propaganda going back and forth.
		You know, pick and choose what you want to believe.
		But it doesn't change the overall message.
		MAGA doesn't want involved in the Middle East, and it will fracture the Trump base.
		These are just undeniable facts.
unidentified		Maybe we'll lighten the mood a little here.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's not going to do it.
		No, if you saw the last segment there, what would you prefer?
		Would you prefer the women on Iranian state television in the full-on garb?
		Or would you rather tune into Fox News with the legs and the breasts?
		Which would you rather have?
		Or have you ever seen some of these Spanish weather reporters?
unidentified		Whoa.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Just trying to lighten the mood a little bit here.
		We will take more calls.
		We do have other news.
		I just got a fresh Trump clip, which I think gives more credence to the things I was saying earlier about what I'm noticing from President Trump.
		We'll go to phone calls in a second.
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		All right, do we have that Trump clip ready to go, guys?
		All right, we'll work on getting that.
		A couple headlines here while they're getting that clip ready.
		Yeah, Israel bombs Iran state TV after threatening it would disappear.
		You gotta be careful with all these videos.
		I mean, some have been caught sharing fake videos.
		Some have been caught sharing AI videos.
		Some have been caught sharing videos from years ago.
		Iran is no pushover.
		Israel is learning the hard way.
		Well, they will learn the hard way unless America gets involved and then it's over for Iran.
		Or we enter a different type of a war.
		I don't know.
		At this point, it looks like the rest of the world...
		I think really it kind of all hinges on China more than anything else because they get a lot of oil from Iran.
		But if China figures, okay, fine, if you remove the current leadership and give us new leadership, well, as long as we keep getting the oil, then we won't intervene.
		But you've got to think about all the negotiations and trade negotiations and everything else Trump is engaging in, too, how it affects all of this.
		As far as the death tolls coming out of Iran and Israel, again, who knows?
		Who knows what's true and what's not?
		U.S. Embassy damaged by Iranian missile strike in Tel Aviv.
		Thank God Trump got our people out of there because they all knew it was going to happen.
		Iran warns it's preparing the largest and most intense missile attack in history on Israel as it starts fourth night of strikes.
		So you feel like we're getting to a point now, a breaking point now.
		Something's got to give.
		And now, Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Shara, has announced that they will be using their airspace to support Israel and attack Iran if necessary as well.
		So now you see what the regime change was all about in Syria.
		And that's actually what the caller in the IDF, who's very well informed, said as well.
		But now you know why they had to overthrow Assad.
		So that was another Israeli operation.
		So, oh, what do you know?
		It turns out they did that too.
		So again, for good or for bad?
		Have the debate.
		People will take sides.
		I'm just reporting you what's going on.
		Now, this was Trump moments ago.
		Obviously, this stuff is catching up to him, folks.
		We have to be real.
		These are hard pills to swallow.
		Trump commenting on Tucker Carlson.
unidentified		Tucker Carlson criticizing you, saying that you were complicit in the war.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
unidentified		Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen.
		And quickly, are you talking about Valencia before your violence?
		Yeah, a lot of them.
		Japan?
		A lot of them.
		Good heavens.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's something very interesting aside of just Trump taking a shot at Carlson.
		So obviously Trump is still in the network TV world.
		So we obviously still know that.
		Now, he's got people around him that aren't totally embedded in that world, but he's totally embedded in the Fox News world.
		So that's a shot at Tucker because he's out at Fox News, 100%.
		Kind of a cheap shot, but whatever.
		Now, as I've said, social media has more of an impact now in an election cycle than network news.
		100% true.
		When you're out of the election cycle and in an off election year, Network news kind of takes back over as far as eyes and ears and narrative control.
		Now, it's dwindling in those regards, but Trump, to a certain degree, is right.
		He's like, yeah, well, nobody really hears what Carlson says.
		He's not on Fox News anymore.
		Well, we all know why he's not on Fox News anymore now.
		But Carlson, obviously Trump didn't listen to, I guess maybe they're asking about the Bannon interview from earlier today, which was just about 40 minutes of, About as good as it gets.
		And if he had heard the interview, I think he might have handled it a little differently.
		Carlson was very complimentary of Trump.
		Said he loved him.
		A couple times.
		So it wasn't all negative.
		They were just doing geopolitical breakdowns of, And then all the things that led up to the previous wars that Trump knew were bad and now we're doing the same thing.
		So, I don't know if Trump has seen anything from Tucker, of any reference points.
		But, again, Tucker did the heroic thing telling you who's telling President to strike Iran.
		Why wouldn't Americans deserve to know that?
		Trump didn't tell you that.
		Which, I understand why.
		I'm not saying, I mean, maybe you could say Trump should tell you, but he didn't.
		Tucker did.
		But I kind of look at it like this.
		I'm telling you, Trump, even with the Elon Musk fallout, Trump handled it very well.
		Trump handles stuff like this very well.
		But this whole MAGA base...
		This has Trump shaken, folks.
		I don't think you can deny that.
		This is not the normal, stable genius, as he says, Trump that can handle all the incoming.
		This has him a little rattle.
		It does.
		So certainly he is aware.
		This is going to be ugly, man.
		It's going to be ugly.
		Because what does a President Trump now look like if he feels his base has turned on him?
		Which, if he gets involved in a war in the Middle East, no doubt it's going to happen.
		No doubt.
		I'm not even giving you my opinion.
		This is going to happen.
		I will stand by what I said.
		I will always support President Trump for releasing the political prisoners.
		I will never forget that.
		My pardon aside.
		Releasing the political prisoners.
		And all the other great things he's done.
		I'll never forget it.
		I'll always support him for that.
		But the truth is, if he gets us involved in the Middle East, his approval rating will tank.
		The MAGA base will turn on him.
		And there's nothing I can do about it.
		He's the only one that can do it at this point.
		This isn't 2015 where we had to get him across the finish line.
		He's in charge now.
		And he says, well, whatever I say is MAGA, okay, well...
		So again, this isn't like, oh, we're mad at Trump, we're criticizing Trump.
		No, we don't want to see the MAGA coalition destroyed.
		We don't want to see the 10 years we've worked to get this populist leverage in the White House to be destroyed with one stupid decision that we've already made multiple times before.
		That's what it's about.
		Let's take a couple calls here, and we'll get to some more headlines.
	Let's go to Robert in Florida.
	You're on the air.
	Robert, go ahead.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		Owen, I was going to comment on the message of the false flag that Netanyahu said about New York.
		I thought that was pretty interesting.
		Did he just openly tell everyone what's going to happen next?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, whether that's the case or not, that's what people believe.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Another quick comment.
		I enjoy your show every day, man.
		You're doing a great job.
		The crook's father and this new crying Papa John's guy look to be the same crisis actor.
unidentified		I don't know.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		I've been seeing stuff on Twitter.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		I tried to post it to you, but you were being shadow banned on Twitter, by the way, as well.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I wasn't going to comment on that, but actually people have noticed – I'm not going to deal with the issues on X today.
		And overall, it's been good.
		Also, I've already said, I told the crew, and I'm like, I'm not even going to comment on that deal with that guy.
		It's lawsuit bait.
		Alex needs to handle that.
		That's the boss's job to handle all that.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But you bring up the father and him.
		I think they're just both fat.
		I don't think they actually look alike.
		I think they're both just severely fat, from what I can see.
robert in florida ▲ ● ▼		They're both wearing the same stained t-shirt.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's an odd look.
		Not exactly a look I would endorse.
		Robert, thank you for the call.
		Let's go to Scott in North Carolina.
		Scott, you're on the air.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Hey, Owen.
		Nice to talk to you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for calling.
unidentified		Yeah, so I think this trip has been going on for a very long time in the making.
		I think it was George Bush, Dick Cheney, and John Kerry.
		And they were singing, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, I ran.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's the joke that a lot of people are, you know, they're dragging the internet and they're resurfacing all these videos.
		It's the exact same propaganda.
		I mean, it's crazy how it's the exact same propaganda.
		You just replace the keywords, Iraq with Iran, weapons of mass destruction with nuclear weapons, Khamenei with Saddam Hussein, and it's the exact same script.
unidentified		Exactly.
		I remember that song precisely.
		They were singing bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb on Iran.
		And then if you think about the elitist, how they work, they always think long term.
		They play the long game all throughout history, basically.
		And then I was thinking, you know, after Trump had the election stolen with Biden, the second time, you know, the second election, I feel like he was desperate to be president again, so they were kind of like, okay, well, let's make a deal.
		And then he put $100 million from Miriam Adelson, and then all of a sudden now we're going to war with Iran.
		And, I mean...
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Look, that wouldn't shock me if a deal was made.
		It wouldn't shock me one bit if Trump said, hey, you know, make sure my legacy in the history books is X, make sure my family is protected, and we'll go ahead and give you your regime change in Iran, but get me across the finish line and then secure my legacy in the history books.
		I wouldn't be surprised if that deal was made.
		I don't want to think like that or talk like that about Trump quite yet.
		But we have to, you know, we have to look at all the different angles here.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm not saying that's exactly how it is.
unidentified		I'm just thinking, like, the possibilities here, you know, like in the Freemason Society, they have this thing called order of chaos when you get to the higher degree.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Let me just stop you right there.
		I don't want to get conspiratorial about I'm not going to do that today.
		President Trump himself on multiple campaigns said no more forever wars in the Middle East, no more new wars.
		That was his own campaign promise.
		Since the Bush years, Trump has been saying we were lied to about weapons of mass destruction.
		We were lied to about Iraq.
		So I don't have to get conspiratorial.
		What changed?
		That's the question.
		What changed, President Trump?
		You're going against your own campaign.
		You're going against the things that you've been saying consistently for 30 years.
		What changed?
		I don't have to be conspiratorial to ask that question.
		I just have to observe what's happened.
		What changed?
		That's the question, Scott.
		Thank you for the call.
		Let's go to Josh in Florida.
		Josh, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah.
		In regards to this side, this argument about how You know, Netanyahu seemingly is lying for many years about there being, you know, this bomb and whatever it is, the nuclear aspects of things, and we haven't seen anything yet.
		I've heard an argument, I'm curious what you think about it, on the other side, claiming that, you know, the reason why we haven't seen an actual bomb yet is because they've been sabotaging it as we see that they have so much intelligence in the country.
		So what would you say to that side of the argument?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		No, no, I'm saying that people are claiming that the reason why we haven't seen, right, he's been warning for so many years and we haven't seen anything yet, meaning in regards to an actual bomb or whatever, the weapons, is because it's very possible the Israelis have been constantly sabotaging it and pushing it off, you know, their capabilities till, you know, further and further in time.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I feel like they would take credit for that if that was true.
unidentified		Well, I mean, you could easily say it's possible to give away a lot of their embedment in the country.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Let me just reframe this entire question.
		And if you don't like the reframing, you can respond.
		Israel arguably has the most sophisticated intelligence network on the planet.
		And they probably have spies embedded in more...
		So, obviously, this is proven with some of the things they were able to do with Hamas leadership and the golden pagers.
		Obviously, this is true when they're able to do these, well, at least were told that they're precise strikes.
		On the Iranian military leaders.
		That's what we're told.
		I don't know.
		You could maybe not believe that.
		They could be lying about that.
		But that's what we're told.
		So, think about it like this.
		If Israel's intelligence network is as embedded as it would appear it is, very clearly, then they would have already shown us evidence that Iran has nukes.
		They would have showed us it years ago to win over the world to get on their side.
		If they are as well infiltrated and embedded with their spies everywhere on the planet, which clearly they are, then they would have presented the evidence long ago.
		They haven't done it.
		So that's why I think Netanyahu is blowing up the sites because they don't have the evidence.
		They know the evidence isn't there.
		So he's destroying the evidence.
		Well, I don't know.
		Iran obviously doesn't trust anybody, okay?
		So I don't blame them for that.
		Nobody probably trusts Iran either.
		President Trump thought they were dealing in good faith.
		Then Netanyahu says, no, they're all lying.
		So, you know, nobody trusts anybody.
		But what are you going to do now?
		You've already seen what happened in Libya.
		You've already seen what happened in Afghanistan.
		You've already seen what happened in Iraq.
		You've already seen what happened in Syria.
		Of course they're not going to let anybody come in.
		Of course.
		Of course Iran is not going to say, hey, come on in and look at what we have, because they know they're going to die.
unidentified		Right, so that would explain why the evidence wouldn't have been shown to us until now, right?
unidentified		So it doesn't prove anything.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Here's the baseline, and I appreciate your question.
		Here's the baseline.
		All of our governments are corrupt, and that's the problem.
		That's the problem right there.
		I don't want Israelis hiding in bunkers.
		That sucks.
		Israelis should be out enjoying life, enjoying food, enjoying the beach, whatever.
		Same thing with Iranians.
		They're oppressed by their government too.
		And they have a right and they have a left just like we do.
		Just like in Israel.
		You know, you don't get this type of information.
		And we're oppressed by our government.
		So none of these governments serve their people.
		So if you want to get down to the base root of it all, like what does MAGA really mean worldwide?
		What does 1776 really mean?
		Our governments don't serve us.
		Our governments serve someone else.
		Our governments serve the highest bidder.
		Our governments serve whoever blackmails them.
		Our governments serve their own agendas with the psychopaths and the egomaniacs in charge.
		So that's the root problem.
		Whether you're in Israel, whether you're in America, whether you're in Iran, our governments don't serve us.
		That's the big problem.
		All right, Josh, thank you for the call.
		Let's go to Karen in California.
		You're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hi.
		We need to burst his bubble about this war.
		They are open for calls.
		You can leave a message Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
		And the Infowar infantry, we can do it.
		We need to get his attention.
		We do not need to get pulled into this war.
		So I can give you the phone number if you'd like.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I get the feeling we're already pulled into it.
		And I think that that's why Trump is kind of lashing out at anybody suggesting we don't.
		I think the decision's already been made, and he knows it's already been made, and he knows it's extremely unpopular, and it's real, fair criticism.
		It's not some BS coming from the left, the fake news, whatever.
		It's legitimate, real criticism from his base, and we're seeing how he's handling it.
unidentified		We should call anyhow.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Sure, yeah, you can call.
		We just put the number on the switchboard.
		I'm not saying don't call.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
		Because it may be enough to catch his attention.
		We need to catch his attention.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we have the number on the screen there, and I'm not saying not to call.
		You know, obviously, it's your right if you want to call and air your grievances.
		And maybe, I said I have hope that we can still get the right thing.
		Done here, but part of me, he's kind of watching Trump's response and how he's handling the criticism.
		It tells me he doesn't know how to tell it to the American people, but it's already a done deal.
		That's what it looks like to me.
		He doesn't know how to tell it to the American people, but it's already a done deal.
		We're going to war.
		And now, thank you for the call, Karen.
		This is going to be interesting.
		Obviously, you have to have Congress approval to go to war.
		So what are you going to do with that?
		I don't know.
		I know Congress is owned by AIPAC, but I don't know if it's going to be that easy to support this war, even with your AIPAC-controlled Congress.
		I don't know.
		I could see the Democrats standing against this, and you'll have voices in the Republican Party standing against it, too.
		Believe me.
		Believe me.
		Especially considering, maybe it depends on your district, but considering how unpopular it is, Considering how unpopular another war in the Middle East is, Republicans are not going to be pushovers on this issue.
		I'm telling you, it's going to be...
		The war debate will be even nastier.
		And by the way, it goes back to the issue of conservatism.
		All the spending is not conservative, so is conservatism dead?
		Do you think getting involved in a foreign conflict on the other side of the country, do you think that's conservative?
		No!
		It's inherently against conservatism.
		So there are still conservatives in Congress, but aside from their own political leanings, they know, they know this war is going to be massively unpopular.
		And if they support it, you know, they are not going to get re-elected.
		So I think it's going to be difficult.
		So then what happens?
		So then does he go to war without Congress's approval?
		Well, now he's going to get impeached.
		That's how that's going to go.
		Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but there'll be calls for it.
		There are already calls for it.
		It hasn't even happened yet.
		The whole thing is a disaster.
		The whole thing is a damn disaster.
		But of course, that's what you get when a foreign prime minister, Netanyahu, controls your foreign policy, and it's obvious.
		Of course it's a disaster.
		When Netanyahu is acting like you're president, giving presidential addresses to the American people in front of an Israeli flag, yeah.
		Yeah, that's going to rub people the wrong way.
		Yeah, that's going to be pretty tough.
		Hope we're wrong.
		Hope we can stop it.
		Let's go to John in New York City.
		John, go ahead.
unidentified		You know, I was originally going to call because you were talking about, is it 90-10, is it 80-20?
		I think it's obviously 90-10, maybe 80-20 at worst, because there's really only two contingents in the U.S. And you'd correct me if I'm wrong on this.
		It's the boomer, Fox News, brainwashed for 30 years.
		You know, they take Israel over anyone.
		And then there's the more understandable Jewish-American that just has an affinity for Israel.
		But before you can respond to that, I just want to real quick give the New York City perspective.
		I'm not an alarmist.
		I know maybe some people in the Infowars universe are maybe a bit more extreme than me.
		I'm more level-headed.
		I work in finance.
		I have an apartment in Manhattan.
		I just want to get my perspective really quickly.
		As soon as Bibi said, you know, it's Tel Aviv today or it's New York tomorrow, my stomach sank.
		And it wasn't because I was afraid about Iran attacking.
		I'm at a point where I'm pretty, like I said, I'm a normal, level-headed guy.
		I'm probably more moderate than your average.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How old are you, John, if you don't mind?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How old are you?
unidentified		36. So, you know, middle-aged, I guess.
		But I'm thinking about fleeing.
		I guess is the last thing I want to say.
		I'm thinking about leaving.
		I'm thinking about packing my stuff.
		Not permanently, but just for like two weeks.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what.
		I'm out of time here, and I actually think this deserves a little more back and forth.
		I'm up against a break, so just hold right there and let me take your call because I think where you're coming from is where a lot of people are coming from.
		But to skip over the whole generational thing, I think we've got to focus on that.
		Folks, I'm telling you, the neocons know they've lost big on this issue, and Trump does too.
		Now, it's probably, I don't know if it'll stop it, but I can just tell by the way they're responding.
		Tom Cotton just posted, the forever war is the war that Iran has waged against the United States since 1979.
		Okay.
		So, they see it, folks.
		They see it.
		They know we don't want it.
		They know we consider it a forever war.
		The people of Arkansas don't want it, Tom.
		So now they're trying to rebrand it, retwist it, repropagandize it.
		Our caller John in New York City was weighing in on this, but I wanted to give him more time to expand and offer a response because I think this is an important issue.
		And folks, you can take this.
		This isn't opinion.
		I'm not talking opinion.
		I'm telling you what's happening and what's going on.
		Whether you agree or not, I mean, fine.
		You don't have to trust me.
		But I'm telling you what's going on.
		John in New York City, we were cut off by the break.
		I wanted you to go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, I was just saying, you know, I'm as normal as it gets, I guess.
		I'm like, at least outwardly showing I would look like a normie.
		You know, I have a normal job.
		I have a nice apartment in Manhattan the whole night.
		And as soon as BB said, you know, it's Tel Aviv and then it's New York, my stomach sank.
		And it felt like a threat to me.
		And I'm not an alarmist guy.
		I'm thinking about fleeing the city for a few weeks.
		And I don't know if that's crazy or if that sounds crazy, but it doesn't feel crazy to me, especially after living through 9-11 as a kid.
		You know, I'm a couple blocks away, and there's no better place than New York.
		And the other thing, too, is why did he say that?
		You know, Iran has never, you know, outwardly said they're going to attack America.
		They've never mentioned New York.
		So it just seemed very specific.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And they shouldn't even be able to.
		Iran should not even be a threat.
		Iran should be like a pipsqueak to us.
		It shouldn't be a threat.
		If it is a threat, it's because Biden had opened borders for four years.
		That's it.
		Our military might...
unidentified		War propaganda.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		John, I think your instincts...
unidentified		They're not going to launch them at the U.S. That would be suicidal.
		And even if they did, they'd never reach our shores.
		They're not a threat to us on their best day.
		And it's pretty clear they're not on their best day today.
		So, you know, the whole thing is just obvious war propaganda.
		And like I said originally, I really think there's only two groups of people in this country buying anymore.
		It's the boomers on Fox News.
		And, you know, I'm not anti-Semitic.
		A lot of my best friends are Jewish.
		But it's a lot of Jewish Americans that have this affinity towards Israel.
		And I really think almost no one else is buying it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No.
		And that whole, you know, that whole anti-Semite thing is just, it's, you know, it's obviously wearing thin on people.
		I think your instincts are not wrong.
		Obviously, you hope that, you know, nothing happens to New York City.
		But, you know, they projected 9-11 everywhere before it happened, too.
		I mean, they literally wrote the script for 9-11.
		That it was going to be an Islamic terror attack.
		It was going to be Osama bin Laden.
		And then they were doing drills that day.
		So, yeah, they always tell us their plans before they do it.
		It's like a game to them, I guess.
		So, yeah, Netanyahu saying, look out, New York.
		I mean, I would definitely, if I lived in New York, I'd probably be thinking the same thing you're thinking.
unidentified		Yeah, it's scary times.
		You know, great, great work, though.
		And, you know, keep spreading the good word.
		And, you know, unfortunately, my last thing I'll say is, unfortunately, I think you're dead right about Trump.
		It's pretty – he's signaling that the decision's already made.
		I bet the plans are already in motion.
		And he just – it's sort of like if you cheat on your girlfriend and you're afraid to tell her and you're hiding it from her for a few more weeks.
		That's about how Trump feels right now.
		He knows he's doing it.
		He knows we're going to war.
		And he just doesn't know how to stay yet.
		Really sad, but great work, Owen.
		Thanks for taking my call, and good luck out there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Starting to feel that way, John.
		Thank you for the call.
		And folks, again, this is not opinion.
		And I'm not, I don't, I...
		I don't do that.
		Okay?
		And there's no ism or ist anywhere near here.
		This is an observable reality.
		This is an observable fact to anybody who's an honest dealer.
		Younger generations do not support Israel.
		Period.
		Period.
		Now, if you want to talk about anti-Semitism, is anti-Semitism on the rise?
		That is also undeniable.
		But just because you're critical of Israel does not make you an anti-Semite.
		We have more than every right to be critical of Israel.
		They take our money.
		We subsidize their entire existence.
		So of course I can be critical of Israel.
		But yeah, the boomers and the boomers.
		I get they have an affinity for Israel.
		They're taught it's their holy land and everything else.
		I get it.
		I don't blame it for that.
		But that's not how most of America feels.
		And it's about to go really sideways fast.
		Alright, I'm going to tell it to you like this.
		MAGA is not dead.
		We can still repair this.
		We can still repair the MAGA coalition and we can still repair.
		I don't know.
		There's no way around it.
		There's just no way around it.
		So I would put it to you like this.
		MAGA has just been in a very bad car crash.
		Very bad car crash.
		And there are a lot of bodies strewn about and a lot of people bleeding out.
		It's a mess right now.
		It's a mess.
		But I would say it's all repairable right now.
		I'd say it's still all repairable right now.
		But I mean, MAGA has just had a car crash.
		Or you could argue the intersection of MAGA in the populist movement.
		Dropped a bomb on it.
		And now we're all kind of running around with chickens with our heads cut off and limbs missing and everything.
		And it's the same game in D.C. It's the same game in the White House.
		Everybody sees it.
		So, yeah.
		This is a crash scene.
		This is a MAGA crash scene.
		It's bad.
		You know, people are in critical condition.
		But it can all be repaired.
		I would not say it's irreparable.
		I would not say we can't get back to...
		But there's going to have to be some reconciliation.
		There's going to have to be some honesty.
		And I would say for the White House, as now they're keeping Tulsi Gabbard out of a lot of these conversations, go figure.
		I would say for the White House, if it's inevitable and the decision has already been made, the faster you come off, With that Band-Aid, the better.
		If you try to pussyfoot around this, if you try to slow walk this, if you try to pretend there's no involvement because you know the base doesn't want it and all this stuff, that's just going to make it worse.
		That is just going to make it ten times worse.
		So if this is already a done deal and we're going to war, you've got to come out and say something because right now Netanyahu is in total control of the narrative.
		Not President Trump.
		Netanyahu's favorability is 30% in Israel, probably lower in America.
	Well, maybe higher.
	I don't know.
	But this is now a crash scene.
	This is now a MAGA crash scene, and Netanyahu is addressing it.
	So, if the deal's already been made, and it's going to be another war in the Middle East, then just come out, rip the Band-Aid off, say it's going to happen, do a presidential address, And maybe we can start to repair and reconcile.
	Because like I said, I'll take the L. I'll sit back here and I'll say, hey, military-industrial complex won.
	Israel won.
	MAGA lost.
	The base lost.
	It's politics.
	You take the good, you take the bad.
	You got to be real about it.
	So I'll own it.
	I'll say, hey, we tried, but they won.
	So, okay, they won this battle.
	Let's move forward with the rest of the agenda.
	Let's hope it doesn't get worse than whatever it is.
	But if they try to delay it longer or pretend it's not happening, and the longer Trump goes without actually being honest and transparent about what's going on with the American people, the more Netanyahu is in front of us, the more this crashing becomes like, okay, now we've got to bring in air support, and now we're on life support.
	So if it's a done deal, then just come out, rip the Band-Aid off, and just say it.
	Just say it.
	Just address the wound now.
	Just get it on life support now.
	Because the longer you pretend it's not going on, the worse it's going to get.
	Now, if there's still hope that we don't get involved, if there's still a chance that we don't fight this and Israel does it on its own, okay, fine.
	Still won't exactly like it.
	But there's a buffer there.
	Excuse there.
	So we'll see.
	But this has not been handled well by the White House at all.
	And I think we all know why.
	We all know why.
	It's the biggest betrayal of MAGA yet.
	And we don't even get an address.
	We get Netanyahu.
	That's who we get.
	Netanyahu addressing us and not Trump.
	So it's a crash scene.
	Still repairable.
	It's not fatal yet, but it's a MAGA crash scene.
	That's for damn sure.
	And then you got people turning on Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's like one of the only good ones left.
	She put out a lengthy statement.
	I don't know how you can disagree with it.
	Everyone is finding out who are real America First MAGA and who were fake and just said it because it was popular.
	Unfortunately, the list of fakes are becoming quite long and exposed to themselves quickly.
	Any slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel-Iran war is not America First or MAGA.
	Wishing for murder of innocent people is disgusting.
	We are sick and tired of foreign wars, all of them.
	And this will quickly engulf the Middle East, BRICS, and NATO as countries are required to take a side.
	Real America First and MAGA wants world peace for all people and doesn't want our military killed and forever injured physically and mentally.
	We love our U.S. military and love them for helping to secure our borders and our cities for the defense of our people and our country.
	They are our friends, spouses, cousins, nieces, nephews, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters.
	We have spent trillions in the Middle East and we have dealt with the aftermath of death, blown apart bodies, never-ending suicide, and disabling PTSD.
	All because they told us propaganda as to why we must sacrifice our own to defend some other country's borders and some other country's interests.
	I don't want to see Israel bombed or Iran bombed or Gaza bombed.
	I don't want to see Ukraine bombed or Russia bombed.
	And we do not want to be involved or required to pay for any of it.
	We are $36 trillion in debt and have mountains of our own problems.
	We give giant planks sticking out of our own eyes while we complain about the splinters in others.
	Every country involved and all over the world can be happy, successful, and rich if we all work together and seek peace.
	It's rational, sane, and loving towards all people.
	Taking the position of peace and prosperity for all is not isolationism.
	It leads to great trades and great economies that help all people.
	That's what Americans voted for in 2024.
	Last week they said Iran was days away from a nuclear bomb.
	Well, it's been days now and Iran's nuclear facilities are not destroyed.
	So, does Iran have a nuclear bomb now that it's been days?
	They've been telling us for decades, Iran, only has a few years or a few months or a few days.
	However, the truth is, more countries than is public have some sort of nuclear capabilities.
	It's not anti-Semitic to ask these questions.
	It's fair, critical thinking and honest dialogue.
	After all, innocent people are dying and more will die if the U.S. gets fully involved.
	I don't know how you can disagree with any of that.
	And so then they came for her and said, oh, well, Iran hates you and hates Christians.
	It's MAGA to strike Iran.
	And she shut that down real quick.
	To all the never-Trumpers who turned into fake America first experts after the polls showed Trump winning.
	Are you demanding America go to war in Nigeria to save God's people from Islamic terrorists too?
	Or does that only apply to God's people in Israel?
	As Fulani and Islamic terrorists kill 100 Christians in Banu State, Nigeria, escalates ongoing genocide.
	So thousands of Christians have been slaughtered in Africa, in Nigeria, and are we going to war there?
	Are we moving in the military there?
	Why does that only apply to the Middle East when Israel beckons the call?
unidentified		Hmm.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Strange, isn't it?
		I've seen Democrat Ro Khanna come out against getting involved in another war.
		And now Representative Don Bayer, the U.S. must not allow and follow Netanyahu into another war.
		So, the lines are being drawn.
		But I'm telling you, I know politicians are always loyal to the money, but before they're loyal to the money, they're loyal to getting re-elected, and they know this is not popular, folks.
		So, it's going to be hard to get congressional approval, but they always find a way around it.
		It seems that we go to war without congressional approval all the time now.
		So, who even knows if that has any value anymore?
		Now, Senk Uyghur of the Young Turks makes this observation.
		Silver lining here is that MAGA gets to find out who's really America first and who is serving the establishment.
		MAGA was crystal clear, no more wars.
		So if anyone is telling you that we have to fight another war in the Middle East for Israel, you know which side they're on.
		100% right.
		And it's pretty easily observable, isn't it?
		Pretty easily observable.
		And again, I get it.
		I'm not somebody that lives in some personality complex when I deal with politics.
		So I get American Jews that love Israel even more than America, let's say.
		I mean, maybe that I don't get, but okay, fine.
		I'll recognize that as a real phenomenon.
		That doesn't change where the populist movement is.
		That doesn't change where MAGA has been or is coming from.
		And it's never been more obvious.
		It's never been more obvious.
		Now, they had a poll last week, a Quinnipiac poll, that said Trump's approval rating was 38%.
		Now, I figure that's a lie.
		I think Trump's approval rating is probably much higher than that.
		But he will go the way of George Bush.
		He will become the next George Bush if we get involved in another war in the Middle East.
		And I know he doesn't want that.
		Of course he doesn't want that.
		In fact, part of Trump's greatest political victory was ending the Bush dynasty.
		So why would he want to become the Bush dynasty?
		It wouldn't make any sense.
		But no matter where you look, no matter what the poll is, no matter who puts it out, no matter how they frame it, it's 90-10.
		It's 90-10.
		Thomas Massey, over 125,000 votes.
		Should the United States be giving Israel weapons to make more with Iran?
		85% no.
		So no matter how you frame it, no matter who posts it, it's always about a 90-10 split.
		Let's just show you more from Netanyahu, shall we?
		Been lying to us for years, folks.
		Been lying to us for years.
		How about 2002, clip 11?
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons.
		No question whatsoever.
		And there is no question that once he acquires it, history shifts immediately.
		The dangers posed by a nuclear-armed Saddam were understood by my country two decades ago, well before September 11th.
		In 1981, the late Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin, dispatched the Israeli Air Force on a pre-dawn raid that destroyed the Iraqi nuclear reactor.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		By the way, pause it real quick.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		And it'll see rock.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe nobody's dead.
unidentified		And then they didn't tell us, so it happened for their own benefit?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Did he just admit that?
		Did I hear that right, guys?
		You're coming in way overblown in my ear.
		It's just blowing out my earpiece.
		That's what it sounded like to me.
		Of course, everybody already knows Israel had the intelligence, probably stood down.
		And then there's the dancing Israelis and everything else.
		But forget about that.
		The point is Netanyahu specifically has been selling us the exact same lie for more than 30 years.
		Let's just pull back from that.
		I've already had enough.
unidentified		Give me clip 12. And is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		No question whatsoever.
unidentified		They lied.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		They said there were weapons of mass destruction.
		There were none.
		And they knew there were none.
unidentified		There were no weapons of mass destruction.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		No question whatsoever.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Look, bottom line, there were no weapons of mass destruction.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		They said there are weapons of mass destruction.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		That it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Going into Iraq may have been the worst decision anybody has made, any president has made in the history of this country.
		That's how bad it is, okay?
		We should have never been in Iraq.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		I guarantee you, no question whatsoever.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He lied.
		And Trump knew it.
		So again, it's not conspiracy to say what changed.
		I don't have to conspiracy theorize.
		Blatant with Trump.
		What changed?
		Let's do one more.
		I forget the individual that posted this video.
		He does good little clips like this.
		He breaks it down as well.
unidentified		Israel just finished bombing Iran.
unidentified		And moments later, I'm not kidding you, moments later.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion.
unidentified		Benjamin Netanyahu has this video out.
unidentified		to propagandize Americans about dragging us into what will probably be World War III.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		And if you don't believe that it's specifically directed at us, Remember, Iran calls Israel the small Satan.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		It calls America the great Satan.
unidentified		He even includes a Bible reference.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		As the Bible teaches us.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		When someone comes to kill you, rise and act first.
unidentified		To try to manipulate the American people into the same bullshit that we did in Iraq.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		No question whatsoever.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		There were no weapons of mass destruction.
		They said there are weapons of mass destruction.
		I was against the war.
unidentified		The same exact guy.
		I mean, literally the same dude.
		Who tricked the American people and our politicians into fighting a pointless war in Iraq that we got nothing from.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We have spent two trillion dollars in Iraq and fighting Iraq.
		Two trillion.
		Two trillion.
		Thousands of lives.
		We got nothing.
unidentified		Is here manipulating and tricking us into going into World War III.
		And the same exact premise.
		I'm not even kidding you.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		We will not let the world's most dangerous regime get the world's most dangerous weapons.
		The increasing range of Iran's ballistic missiles.
		Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years.
		Would bring that nuclear nightmare to the cities of Europe and eventually to America.
jack in texas ▲ ● ▼		Right.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		We're just the first way station en route to you.
		Threatening the lives, not of hundreds, but of millions.
		Grieving not for thousands of dead, but for millions.
		Remember, Iran calls Israel the small Satan.
		It calls America the great Satan.
		Remember, we're the small Satan.
		You're the big Satan.
unidentified		The same exact shit.
unidentified		We're doing it all over again.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		Iran cannot have a nuclear enrichment program.
		It's clear that Iran is just buying for time.
		It refuses to agree to this basic requirement of peaceful nation.
unidentified		We know everything about what they're doing and we have to stop it because they're not allowed to have any of the weapons we have.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		The hardest decision any leader has to make is to thwart a danger before it is fully materialized.
		I believe that a clear connection between Saddam and September 11th must be established before we have a right to prevent the next September 11th.
		Well, I think not.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		The Iraqis did not knock down.
		It was not Saddam Hussein that knocked down the World Trade Center, okay?
		Nobody really knows why we went into Iraq.
		Going into Iraq may have been the worst decision anybody has made, any president has made in the history of this country.
		That's how bad it is, okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, again, I think anybody can observe this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		If you look, just, why is Netanyahu addressing America on this and not Trump?
unidentified		That is an issue.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Aside from the fact that it's the same garbage he's been peddling for 30 years.
		But you can tell, and I don't know, Netanyahu's actually involved, not like Zelensky, who knows what he's actually involved with or not.
		But you notice, with every new address, with every new interview and statement Netanyahu makes, his voice is getting worse and worse.
		So I don't think this is going well for Netanyahu either, folks.
		His popularity is tanking.
		His popularity in Israel is tanking.
		He knows he's about to lose political power if he doesn't get and invoke wartime presidency and cancel elections.
		And I think you kind of see Trump, same thing.
		He knows this war is unpopular, but he doesn't know what to do.
		He doesn't know how to tell his base.
		So he's sputtering out, attacking Tucker Carlson, saying, oh, he should be on network news.
		The fake news, Donald?
		It's not good.
		You know, I found this old clip from 10 years ago.
		Buchanan debating Hannity on this issue.
		We may play some of that.
		We still do have some calls on the line.
		So, let's go there.
		Let's go to Alex in Virginia.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Go ahead.
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Hey, how you doing this afternoon?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm good, thank you.
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It seems to me that we've traveled down a wormhole, and history is repeating itself over and over and over again.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's the Groundhog's Day analogy, I'm telling you.
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		It is, and that's because we haven't learned our lesson.
		You know, I don't appreciate Emperor Palpatine going in front of the Congress or showing up on my TV talking about how it's righteous what they're doing.
		That's insane.
		For them to be running the same script over and over again.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And if he was so confident that that was the case and his own military capabilities, he wouldn't be doing that.
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
		And on top of it, it just so happens that I was digging through memory, trying to find the interview where President Bush at the time had admitted that they did not find any evidence.
		So he found nothing out there.
		It's the same playbook.
		And they're not going to change it.
		The only way it's going to get...
		That's what they're saying.
		That's what they said several hours ago.
		You have the U.N. right now that...
		They don't want anything to do with it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I would say that, you know, the people making these decisions are obviously not dumb, and they don't make decisions without taking measurements.
		So I think, though, I think that they may have taken a bit of a risk, or maybe they mismeasured here.
		Because I think they're of the belief, and they might be right.
		They might be right for another election cycle or two, but I think they're underestimating how powerful the alternative media is.
		And I think they're kind of all under this idea because, like you said, if it works, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
		So they've been using the same playbook.
		It's worked every time, so why not go with it again?
		And they figure, hey, we've got all our people stationed in the media to run our propaganda.
		We've got our assets on social media to prop up the propaganda there, too.
		So they've obviously done the measurements, and they figure, we're going to be able to get this thing through.
		We're going to be able to fit this thing through and get it to the other side.
		But I think they might be underestimating the damage at this point.
		I think it's not going to be a smooth thing.
		I think they're going to have to jam it through, and it's going to take a bunch of damage, and maybe now they've realized, uh-oh, our measurements were not as good.
		Because the alternative media is way more powerful than they anticipate.
		And it might still be overwhelmed by the network news.
		I think that might be true.
		But I think they've underestimated the power of the alternative media, and you can't brainwash the masses as easily as you used to.
		You just can't do it.
		All right, then.
		Let's check in on Tel Aviv, guys, if we could.
		They're going through it there worse than anywhere else in Israel and Tel Aviv.
		Let's check in, guys.
		Can I check in, Clip 10?
unidentified		And tonight, in our bomb shelter, we're organizing a gay sex party.
		He found a bomb shelter with air conditioning.
		Very breathable.
		Very comfortable.
		The Iron Dome will protect us.
		Enjoying the power of raw, strong Israeli manpower.
		No weakness.
		And if you're afraid of strong men, you better watch out for weak men.
		Or even worse, evil lesbian jihadis.
		We've got your number, all of you.
		You terror supporters.
		You absolute monster.
		Ah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Be careful in those bunkers.
		Maybe stay awake.
		Probably tough to sleep now for two reasons.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I forgot about that.
		You know, I had a good laugh at this one.
		What are the odds?
		Caitlyn Jenner is over there kissing the wailing wall or whatever.
		Did she put on the hat too?
		I think she put on the yarmulke or he...
		It's so confusing.
		But it's funny.
		You got all these people in America, and they've all outed themselves.
		None of them will go over there.
		Notice that?
		None of them will volunteer to go serve at the IDF.
		None of them will go over there to try to fight with Israel these wars.
		They'll stay right here in the comfort of the United States, in the comfort of their own studios, in the comfort of their millions of dollars, and nice fancy houses.
		It's good for them.
		But they won't go over there.
		All these Judeo-Christian men.
		It's just some made-up concept propaganda deal.
unidentified		But they're all, they got big mouths.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They all got big mouths about how we need to support it.
		Not a single one of them will go over there.
		And the one white American, the one white American man that actually goes into Israel as it's going on, pledging to support, is now a woman.
unidentified		Cuckoo!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Somebody share with Caitlin there the address of that bunker buster, if you know what I mean.
unidentified		Might tickle his fancy.
		Mm-hmm.
		Fuck!
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I can't even get it off the screen.
		Oh, boy, oh, boy.
		What was that, guys?
		Yeah, no, it's okay.
		It's, you know, you gotta find a way to get by when you're living in bunkers.
		Gotta find a way.
		It's really, yeah, look, aside from the funny, the humor aspect here, it is sad.
		But hey, if they're enjoying themselves, you know, who am I to judge?
		All right, let's take a couple more calls here before we sign off.
		By the way, a couple notes.
		One, we're going to be busy tonight.
		Once I finish up here, I'm going to be on X with Josie, the red-headed libertarian, for about an hour.
		And then after that, I'm going to be doing a debate, probably an hour or two, depending, could go for all night.
		I'll be debating the Iran-Israel war issue.
		So we're going to be working late into the night, staying up.
		People say, you're going to do four hours of live content and then do a debate?
		Well, yeah.
		What do you think this is?
		What do you think this is?
		This is the championship, baby.
		This is the info war.
		This is when it counts.
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		A couple calls before we sign off.
		Been waiting on the line.
		Let's go to Jack in Wisconsin.
		Jack, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Big O. Yeah, I think this is kind of like a good thing it's happening now.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of glad Trump's our president in such a situation.
max in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Considering what the alternatives would have been, you know, and it's good that it's happening early because it will be a barometer of what the rest of the administration is going to be like, you know, and it's like quite a big problem.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		You know, his administration has hit the wailing wall with this and that.
		Between MAGA or Torah dealing with Israel's situation over there in the Middle East has been going on for thousands and thousands of years.
		You know, I'm more concerned about Israel detonating a nuke, you know, in a false flag like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have the Samson option.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you think Israel will lay down their nukes?
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they will, and I think most likely Iran probably already gotten a nuke through Russia.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		You know, they were going for like $20 million from Ukraine.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that's an interesting point, because there was a conspiracy.
		They claimed they got rid of all those nukes, and then the Russians believed that they were buried at some old power site.
		And I think the Russians actually went in there a couple years ago to try to find them.
		Now, they never reported on that, and obviously nothing ever came out of that situation.
		But the official story was Iran, or excuse me.
		Ukraine got rid of those nukes.
		I forget what the agreement or treaty was called.
		That was the official statement.
		There was still belief on the Russian side that they never did.
		And you think some of those got into Iran?
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or, you know, many, many different ways.
		They could have just gotten them on the black market.
		You know, or they're super intelligent there in Iran.
		They could have developed it.
		And if they did develop it, it's like, would they even tell us?
		Obviously, they wouldn't tell Israel.
		Or they wouldn't tell the world.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you think if Iran had a nuke, it would use it right now?
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		No, because then it would turn the whole world against Iran.
		It's like shooting yourself in the foot.
		You'd make a unified enemy and give America the Pearl Harbor September 11th that it really wants.
		Historically, the only team-up I think that would work to cause peace in the Middle East is if Russia and the US teamed up.
		Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's been, honestly, I've been saying it for years.
		I've been saying it for years.
		The most important partnership would be Russia and America.
		And that's why the deep state and all their little assets always try to divide Russia and America.
		That's why NATO always tries to divide Russia and America, because that's the match.
		That's the match that can stabilize the world.
		It's Russia and America.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know if you saw, it was in Eastern European news, that Russia started using in Ukraine their jet-powered drone, their newest drone.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		So now we're having jet-powered drones, and it's this escalation that I think will get to the point that it will just vacuum cleaner any progress or any development we could do here in America and be, you know, financially a money dump like none other.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you gotta wonder.
		You gotta wonder, Jack.
		Thank you for the call.
		If that isn't the next step that we see in America, is this drone warfare deal?
		Because it's pretty rudimentary and cheap, really, all things considered, to get a bunch of drones, put an IED on them, and I mean, God forbid it happens.
		But, I don't know.
		I don't want to say attack or false flag imminent, but I mean, again, it's like my heart and my head.
		It's like, my heart says, no, we're not going to do this.
		We're not going to see a false flag.
		We're not going to see an attack on American soil.
		And then my head is like, you're an idiot.
		All signs point to that's exactly what we're going to see.
		So it's just like this ongoing struggle.
		But I'm sure we're all kind of in the same boat with that.
		And by the way, you know, I think there's this, there's a political world where most of these people exist.
		And they never get out of it.
		They live in these political bubbles.
		Some call it an echo chamber.
		And maybe that's accurate.
		But, you know, what I notice is it doesn't seem like many of these people have any normal social interactions at all, is what I notice.
		And the reason I say that is...
		I mean, I've got the crew here.
		I've got a bunch of other social circles that I kind of exist in and I talk to people.
		I know what the average person is thinking.
		I know what the average normie, as they say, is thinking and talking about.
		And if they are talking about the Middle East, they're sick of Israel.
		They're not talking about Iran as a threat or getting into another war.
		I mean, it's like very clear.
		If anybody's talking about foreign entanglements, it's we're done with Israel.
		If anybody's even talking about it.
		Most people aren't talking about that.
		As it's announced that, I guess, the IDF just sent a bunch of drones over Tehran.
		And now Iran is getting ready for their strike back.
		The American people want nothing to do with it.
		So even think, oh, I'm on the right side of the issue.
		I'm with Israel.
		Oh, I'm on the right side of the issue.
		I'm against Israel.
		That's like 10% of the American people even think or talk about it, maybe less.
		And then the people that are trying to provide you commentary on it, I don't think they have anybody that they talk to outside of their political bubbles.
		I don't think they have any normal social circles where they can actually hear and see what people are talking about.
		And you could say, well, they're not really interested and they're not really relevant and all this stuff.
		Well, that's not true.
		They are American citizens.
		And they will vote.
		And I got news for you.
		If we get into another war in the Middle East, they're not going to vote for Republicans in the midterms.
		And the Democrats will take the House.
		Believe that.
		Believe that.
		And if it goes past the midterms, Democrats will take the White House in 2028.
		So you've got to think about the long-term repercussions for this.
		But, oh, this idea like, oh, everybody supports Israel.
		No, most people don't even think about it.
		They want to know what's going on with deportations.
		They want to know what's going on with cutting taxes.
		They want to know what's going on with all the criminal activity in D.C. These are the things the American thinks about and talks about while they're going to dinner, while they're at the health club, while they're at a ballgame, while they're at a concert.
		Let's go to another call.
		Let's go to Anton in California.
		Anton, you're on the air.
unidentified		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
unidentified		So, yeah, I was calling in to disagree.
		I was calling in to say that Donald Trump is likely surrounded an echo chamber of Fox and So I was thinking, you know, maybe in order to get his attention, people have to wake up.
		People have to know that the original reason we got him in is to get out of the Ukraine-Russia war, which was scary.
		We were about to go to war really quick.
		So I was thinking, you know, he changed up.
		I think that he'll probably take us into war if nobody stops him.
		I mean, there's a lot going on, and it's easy, in my opinion, to stop, like you said, in the original railing against this stuff.
		You said it was easy to stop.
		You just call the leaders and you stop it.
		And, you know, I heard out.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		He definitely believed that.
		And then he got a rude awakening with Ukraine and Russia.
		And so you notice, you know, nobody's really talking about that much more right now.
		So that's kind of out of their hand.
		And then Trump actually did say something.
		I think it was yesterday.
		Somebody asked him about U.S. involvement, and he kind of skirted it and said, look, sometimes, you know, he said we want to get back to the negotiating table with Iran, but sometimes they just got to fight it out.
		So if that's the case, then fine.
		Let them fight it out.
		Let Iran and Israel blow each other to hell.
		It's really sad.
		It's unfortunate their citizens are going to have to go through it as it gets worse with every exchange.
		You know, that should be the attitude.
		It's like, hey, we tried to bring you to the table.
		We tried to bring your region peace.
		We tried to bring your people peace.
		And you just wouldn't have it.
		So now you've got to fight it out.
		So you fight it out.
		We're not having it.
		But we'll see.
unidentified		It's not really just about the war because, you know, I remember hearing Alex talk about how, you know, like five months ago when Trump got in, if in three months, you know, we don't see the documents or some arrests with the NGOs and the Dutch stuff, you know, I think a lot of stuff has went bad with Trump.
		But I think this is important.
		People should trust their fear and start, you know, lashing out at Trump about these war aggressions, you know.
		I think he might get us into it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's definitely hearing it.
		I can tell by his response to it all that he's hearing it.
		Anton, I thank you for the call.
		But let me respond to the two things you brought up and the political ramifications.
		One, when we're talking about the deep state that Trump talks about, his administration talks about, his FBI talks about, everyone talks about.
		Everybody knows there's a criminal.
		Mafia in a criminal enterprise that runs American politics, runs D.C., runs the federal government.
		No arrests.
		So that's not going to change.
		So as long as there's no arrests for you name it, stolen elections, Operation Crossfire Hurricane, deleting evidence January 6th, Epstein clients, then...
		Maybe it doesn't run the administration now, but it'll find a way back in.
		So that's the ramifications of not addressing the deep state issue.
		The ramifications of getting into another war in the Middle East means, I'd say, with almost utmost certainty, the Democrats win the House and then the presidential election.
		That's how this is going to go.
		It's going to be the Bush years all over again.
		It's going to be the exact same script.
		Democrats take the House.
		And then Democrats take the White House.
		So that's the political ramifications, you know, outside the potential loss of life, which we'd all like to avoid.
		Let's go to Bibi in Texas.
		All right, Bibi, go ahead.
		I guess this is Bibi Netanyahu.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		This is Bibi Netanyahu.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
unidentified		I wanted to let you know, Trump will never not support Israel.
unidentified		Because he's been compromised by our best agent, Mossad, Jeffrey Epstein.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty good Netanyahu interpretation here.
unidentified		Elon tried to warn everyone and get ahead of our blackmail, but Americans are stupid.
unidentified		When the tweet was deleted, the information was deleted from their brains.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, B.B. I think the tweet stands in history now, even if it's deleted.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		General Wesley Clark tried to warn you.
unidentified		The apple of our eye has always been Iran, the seventh country to take down.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what's your next move, Bibi?
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		Death to America.
unidentified		That's why I threatened you, New York.
benjamin netanyahu ▲ ● ▼		That was a threat.
alex in virginia ▲ ● ▼		We will come for you.
unidentified		That's why Alex never wants to attack Israel, because he's afraid of the Samson option.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will tell you, you must not have listened to the Alex Jones show today, because he did talk critically about Israel multiple times.
		But maybe that's why the world is afraid of Israel.
		Maybe the, and thanks for the call, Bibi, maybe the combination of the Epstein blackmail operation Maybe that's why Israel just does whatever the hell it wants and nobody ever steps in.
		Because they just say, alright, you're going to step in?
		We'll blow up the whole world.
		Yeah, we'll just blow up the whole world.
		How about that?
		Or how about we release the tapes that Epstein has on you?
		Very great.
		So, it's all pretty maniacal stuff.
		But the time is running out.
		The time is definitely running out.
		We're about to reach the crossroads of all of it.
		I think we can all kind of feel it right now.
		We just hope it doesn't result in loss of life more so than we already have, specifically on American soil.
		As Trump has just advised everybody to leave Tehran.
		So you just had those drone strikes in Tehran.
		Now everybody is being told to evacuate Tehran.
unidentified		So this is about to get ugly, folks.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is about to get ugly.
		So I'd say within the next 24 hours, there's going to be a massive, massive offensive on Tehran.
		Now, it looks like Iran could end up isolated in all of this.
		We'll see.
		Because Iran doesn't have nukes, and Israel does.
		So that's the power struggle there.
		Israel has the nukes, and Israel threatens the planet with their nukes.
		Iran doesn't have the nukes.
		So they're going to crush.
		They're going to get regime change.
		I mean, look.
		Best case scenario, that happens and we don't get involved or any loss of life here, but it looks like it's on.
		So, what a shame.
		What a shame.
		Trump was going to keep us out of wars.
		Trump said none of this would happen if I was president.
unidentified		Well, it's unfortunate.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, we got somebody that disagrees, Joe Beyer in Texas.
		I think I'm saying that right.
		Joe Beyer, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		It's Joe Bear, like Joe and Bear together.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Joe Bear.
unidentified		But I just want to say everybody just needs to calm down.
		Everybody's all panicking.
		Trump is not going to take us to war.
		That's not going to happen.
		I see it as this, Owen.
		I see it as us, as Trump, as what he did with North Korea.
		He's just being very boisterous about everything, just like with the tweet that he just spit out about Iran.
		He's being very boisterous about it.
		Oh, like a few weeks ago, we had the B2 bombers at Diego Garcia, and then they left.
		I think I see that he's just being very boisterous.
		And he's going to get everybody up in a tizzy, everybody's parents up in a tizzy, but he's not going to go to war because at the end of the day he knows his legacy is on the line.
		And he doesn't want his legacy to be crushed by war because he already spoke about it, you know.
		And so I don't see us going to war at all.
		Now the most that I see us doing as the U.S. watch is maybe he does something like what he did.
		Syria a few years ago when he was in office, the first time is maybe we bombed my airport and then everybody goes, "Oh, yay, yay, we did something." And that's probably going to be the most of it.
		But as far as it goes, like you said a few moments ago, he was like, I forget what you just said.
		But I'm a little nervous.
		But, yeah, that's kind of what I wanted to say.
		I just feel like everybody just needs to calm down.
		Trump's got it.
		I got Trump's got it.
		He's not going to get us truly involved with this war because he knows for a fact that if he gets involved, that's the end of his legacy.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We'll see about all of that.
		Unfortunately, history is written by the victors.
		Now, we kind of live in a different world now with social media, but it doesn't even matter.
		The truth doesn't even matter.
		They'll write the lies in the history books, as they have for years.
		Has anybody corrected the history books on the JFK assassination?
		No.
		So, even if Trump got us involved in a war, they'll just rig the history books and say, oh, it was great, everybody loved it.
		It was heroic.
		Total support.
		It's like, no.
		No.
		It destroyed his base and went against his campaign promises.
		But, alright, to your credit, we're not at war yet.
		It's Israel versus Iran for now.
		That's what we're told, at least.
		Some people don't buy it.
		But that's where we're at.
		All right, I'm going to be active all night on this.
		Like I said, coming up on X with Josie, the redheaded libertarian, and then a debate later tonight on the Iran-Israel situation.
		We're staying up.
		We're working late tonight.
		We'll see you later.
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