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Well, things in Washington, D.C. are getting a little spicy today. | ||
On this Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025, InfoWars War Room Transmission, the fastest three hours. | ||
On the internet, and we've got developments coming in now. | ||
The big, beautiful bill running into major obstacles at the Senate. | ||
It might even be worse than we had anticipated. | ||
Now, Trump going back and forth with Rand Paul. | ||
Rand Paul offering some solutions. | ||
But then you have the House Republicans. | ||
Who's supposed to be working on codifying the doge cuts, now coming out just moments ago saying, you know what? | ||
Never mind. | ||
Yikes. | ||
As Elon Musk is coming out pretty heavily against the quote-unquote big, beautiful bill, while Donald Trump's still in defense of it, Caroline Levitt still in defense of it as well. | ||
We're going to hear from Levitt today. | ||
We're going to read some statements from Trump. | ||
Should anything come out of the White House or President Trump offering any commentary on these developments as they're ongoing, we will bring that for you live. | ||
We're going to try to update you on all that. | ||
We also have some other shakeups in the Trump administration as well today dealing with foreign policy. | ||
So we'll talk about that. | ||
And then your usual, you know, leftists being leftists. | ||
And you've got all these undercover videos now, and it's Project Veritas, and it's the O 'Keefe Media Group. | ||
You've got this other group now, too. | ||
The, what is their name? | ||
Accuracy in Media. | ||
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Where they have this. | |
She works at UNC Asheville. | ||
She's an administrator. | ||
And she's here bragging about how they're just going to break all the rules and discriminate against white people. | ||
You know, the issues of white supremacy are the biggest deal for her. | ||
And it's just, this is how these leftist activists that get into these institutions feel. | ||
This is how they feel, this is what they do, and she says, even recognizes, yeah, we're breaking the rules here, but we don't care. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Okay. | ||
So we'll show you some of that, but it's not an isolated incident. | ||
And that's the problem. | ||
And it's whether they're judges or teachers or lawyers, it doesn't matter. | ||
They're all the exact same. | ||
They're all leftist, radical activists who will break laws, break rules, sabotage things, just hell, break the entire country down if they could. | ||
That's what they really want. | ||
That's what they're really into. | ||
So we got some of that going on. | ||
You know, I think we're going to hear this clip coming up of Caroline Levitt. | ||
And I think it's fair to say the Trump administration is missing on this when it comes to this big, beautiful bill as far as where the American people are at. | ||
It is not popular. | ||
People don't want to hear about the big, beautiful bill. | ||
What they want to hear about are doge cuts. | ||
That's what they want to hear about. | ||
And the numbers are undeniable. | ||
So we're going to look at some of these numbers. | ||
But we're going to see this clip of Levitt where a reporter asks a question about, hey, you know, it's Peter Ducey. | ||
It's like, what's going on with this big, beautiful bill? | ||
Who's backing Trump here? | ||
And Levitt kind of giggles as if it's a non-issue. | ||
And I would say it actually is very much an issue. | ||
And you can see it today. | ||
And it's pretty clear. | ||
You know, Trump is the leader of the Republican Party, but he can't do everything. | ||
And Mike Johnson's leadership abilities as speakers, if we already hadn't known that they're lacking, I think this just shows how bad it really is. | ||
This is what the people want. | ||
And it shouldn't even be that hard. | ||
And Musk already did the work. | ||
Why can't they do the doge cuts? | ||
This is angering people. | ||
Well, the big story now, it's developing right now. | ||
Breaking news right now. | ||
Not just Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Rand Paul, all going back and forth on the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Now the House Republicans are coming out and saying, well, those doge cuts, that appropriations bill that we were discussing and talking about bringing in the doge cuts with, yeah, you know what, actually, maybe we'll do that later. | ||
We're going to go ahead and just do that later. | ||
So all of this has happened today. | ||
And we can zoom in and I'll show you what Trump is saying and Musk is saying and Rand Paul is saying. | ||
But really, it just comes down to numbers at the end of the day. | ||
And when you look at the budget deficit just since 2000, it's quite stunning. | ||
It's quite stunning. | ||
In 2000, It was $128 billion in 2001. | ||
It was $158 billion in 2002. | ||
Now I'm not going to go down the list of all these years, but it was a couple hundred billion in the early 2000s. | ||
Even as late as 2007, you had it at $161 billion. | ||
After Obama got elected and you had the financial crisis and the banker bailout, then it really skyrocketed from $459 billion to $1.41 trillion. | ||
But even so, it got back down into the hundreds of billions in the early 2000s and 10s. | ||
But it's been, since 2020, After COVID, 3.13 trillion. | ||
2021, 2.77 trillion. | ||
2022, 1.38 trillion. | ||
2023, 1.7 trillion. | ||
And then the last fiscal year, 2024, 1.83 trillion. | ||
Now, when you think about the actual fiscal conservatives or where the modern fiscal conservative philosophy policy comes from, like Rand Paul, with Ron Paul, his father, in the year 2000, At 236 billion fiscal conservatives were complaining at this deficit, saying it was a problem. | ||
Now here you are, steering almost $2 trillion in the face. | ||
Now, the solution here has already been realized. | ||
Doge has found at least a trillion dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
So you could actually take that right back into the hundreds of billions very easily by cutting the waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
Just like that. | ||
And the work has already been done. | ||
But now here we are and we're looking at a record deficit because we refuse to codify the doge cuts. | ||
And now it's even worse. | ||
But these numbers are just clown numbers. | ||
Trillions and trillions in debt. | ||
And hey, if you cut out the waste, fraud, and abuse, you could actually turn this whole thing around. | ||
With the tariffs, and I know that that's ultimately Trump's goal, but this is right before we go live. | ||
Representative Anna Paulina Luna fumes. | ||
Says the House Rules Committee and House leadership have decided not to bring anything to a floor vote to codify President Trump's executive orders or DOGE. | ||
Half the reason the GOP even took the majority is because of Trump and Elon, and now you guys are too scared to codify? | ||
Anna Paulina Luna says, I received a call, and I am being told we will start codifying DOGE cuts next week. | ||
Well, we'll see what happens then. | ||
This is still a lame excuse. | ||
This could have started weeks ago. | ||
But so we are clear. | ||
If you do not put Doge or Trump's executive orders on the floor next week, I will be a no on every single rule. | ||
And I am positive I will not be alone. | ||
This is such a clear winner. | ||
It's mind boggling. | ||
You actually have to give Republicans credit. | ||
Nobody, nobody can lose a winner like Republicans. | ||
They're the best at it. | ||
Nobody can take a win and turn it into a loss like Republicans. | ||
Nobody does it better. | ||
They are the masters at this. | ||
And there's so many different strategies or means and methods that Speaker Johnson could be using to get all this done. | ||
And he just has no creativity. | ||
He has... | ||
And you can't even score an easy win codifying executive orders, codifying doge cuts. | ||
You can't even score that easy win that the American people are behind. | ||
A majority, a vast majority, especially with the doge cuts. | ||
So, I think the voices inside the Republican Party, now some of them we know get loud. | ||
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Anna Paulina Luna, Thomas Massey, Rand Paul, some others. | ||
But I think there's going to be some other voices rising soon. | ||
I think there's going to be some other Republicans in the House that start to make their concerns and voices heard because there is a growing frustration. | ||
There is a growing frustration. | ||
Now, this was Trump. | ||
Going back and forth with Rand Paul. | ||
Of course, Rand Paul is saying he's one of at least four in the Senate that are not going to vote for this bill. | ||
He says he does support the tax cuts, but he doesn't like the $5 trillion in new debt. | ||
And he says at least four feel this way. | ||
Rand Paul says he would support the big, beautiful bill if debt ceiling hike removed. | ||
So that could be a solution there. | ||
I don't know if the other senators he's mentioning here feel the same way, but that's what he says. | ||
So now Trump has gone on the attack. | ||
Trump torches Rand Paul. | ||
Actually crazy. | ||
He says, Rand Paul has very little understanding of the Big Beautiful Bill, especially the tremendous growth that is coming. | ||
He loves voting no on everything. | ||
He thinks it's good politics, but it's not. | ||
The Big Beautiful Bill is a big winner. | ||
Well, I don't think it's Rand Paul thinking it's good or bad politics. | ||
I think Rand Paul is just one of the few fiscal conservatives that are actually left. | ||
So he's going to be voting that way. | ||
Trump continues. | ||
Rand Paul votes no on everything, but never has any practical or constructive ideas. | ||
His ideas are actually crazy and losers. | ||
The people of Kentucky can't stand him. | ||
This is a big growth bill. | ||
This is, it's one of those rare deals where Trump is just totally wrong. | ||
He's just absolutely wrong. | ||
And he said the same thing about Massey. | ||
Thomas Massey is very popular in Kentucky. | ||
Now, he might, in the MAGA movement, there might be a split, but he represents a district in Kentucky that likes him very much. | ||
And by the way, Rand Paul is very popular in Kentucky too. | ||
So, to attack Rand Paul for remaining a physical conservative, as he has always been, as the people of Kentucky have voted for him to be, and then to say that the people of Kentucky can't stand him, this is just a big swing and a miss from Trump today. | ||
I do not get it. | ||
And it's actually even worse when you hear what happened at the press podium today with Caroline Levitt. | ||
But I think, you know, I think that Trump here is, I think he's kind of being like a petulant narcissist here and an egomaniac. | ||
And he just wants everything his way. | ||
And he's not getting it with this big, beautiful bill. | ||
And he's lashing out at those in the way. | ||
The problem is... | ||
So it would be one thing if he had the people behind him, if he had MAGA behind him, and if he wanted to go on like this, it would make more sense. | ||
But he's out on an island on this deal. | ||
And I think it's him. | ||
I think he's making this decision. | ||
I don't think these are advisors telling him it's great. | ||
Now there might be people inside that are in agreement with him. | ||
But this is Trump just really not looking good. | ||
On this deal. | ||
Not really handling this with grace or class. | ||
Very rare for our president. | ||
And I think it's the attitude from the administration here that I think you can hear when it's brought up to Caroline Levitt earlier today. | ||
Elon Musk, with a couple of posts, very critical of this bill, and in fact... | ||
This thing could get like a million likes. | ||
This could be one of the most liked ex-posts ever. | ||
Musk says, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. | ||
The massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. | ||
Shame on those who voted for it. | ||
You know you did wrong. | ||
You know it. | ||
He goes on. | ||
It will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit to $2.5 trillion and burden American citizens with crushingly sustainable debt. | ||
Now, before we go to this clip of Levitt responding to this question on Musk today, I'm looking at this, and again, I'm just saying, where is anybody with creativity or anybody with leadership skills? | ||
It seems that there's a solution sitting right in front of us. | ||
You get a trillion dollars in doge cuts, and you can bring the budget deficit back down. | ||
And yet they refuse to do it. | ||
And now they won't even go vote on doge, or the executive orders. | ||
And so now Trump's lashing out at everybody. | ||
MAGA's not happy with this bill. | ||
The big, beautiful bill isn't that big of a deal to MAGA. | ||
I'm sorry, it's just not. | ||
Might be a great bill. | ||
The tax cuts? | ||
Absolutely. | ||
We all want the tax cuts. | ||
I'm sure there will be good things that come from this bill that President Trump is excited about. | ||
But the truth is, the MAGA base is not talking about the Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
The MAGA base isn't excited for the Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
There's no buzz there. | ||
It's just another spending bill. | ||
It's just another Congress theft of our money. | ||
Those cuts? | ||
People are excited about that. | ||
People are talking about that. | ||
People want that. | ||
A vast majority of people want that. | ||
And it's not just MAGA. | ||
And yet here you are with the solution already in front of you and the work already done by Musk and you can't even get the doge cuts and then instead you're going to vote to increase the deficit. | ||
That's clown world. | ||
That's just clown world. | ||
And I think Musk is just looking at this from a reasonable perspective like the rest of us and just saying, hey, what in the hell is going on? | ||
This doesn't make sense. | ||
You're telling me? | ||
Fine. | ||
We'll concede. | ||
The Democrats can't do anything good. | ||
All right. | ||
Democrats are not interested in stopping waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
They're part of it. | ||
Okay, fine. | ||
So now are we to the point where are Republicans going to have to start looking around the room at one another and saying, all right. | ||
Which one of you is stealing money? | ||
Which one of you is getting kickbacks? | ||
Which one of you is benefiting from all this waste, fraud, and abuse that we can't vote on these things and get the doge cuts so we can bring the deficit down and pass the big, beautiful bill? | ||
So everybody sees it, except, I guess, Speaker Johnson, except Trump's White House? | ||
How can this be? | ||
So I think Musk... | ||
This is not what the people voted for. | ||
This is not MAGA. | ||
This is the same swap D.C. bullcrap that doesn't get anybody excited. | ||
So here it is. | ||
Peter Doocy asked Caroline Leavitt about Musk's comments and what Trump thinks in clip four. | ||
And something that just crossed, Caroline, how mad do you think President Trump is going to be when he finds out that Elon Musk said, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. | ||
This massive, outrageous, port-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. | ||
Shame on those who voted for it. | ||
You know you did wrong. | ||
You know it. | ||
Look, the president on this bill doesn't change the president's opinion. | ||
This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it. | ||
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Did you hear that little giggle that she had there? | ||
Caroline, you're doing a great job, and we love President Trump, but you guys are really missing this one bigly. | ||
And it's starting to get to a point where the more you just keep saying, big, beautiful Bill, big, beautiful Bill, like it's some, you're going to put us in a trance or something. | ||
It's like, let's just brand it Big Beautiful Bill, and let's just say Big Beautiful Bill, and the stupid Americans will love it. | ||
You're starting to offend this, actually, a little bit. | ||
It's starting to come off a bit conceited and insulting. | ||
So, I don't want to see this failure here. | ||
I'd like to see the Republican Party, as they say, govern, And you've got a major opportunity to have huge wins and to actually set a new standard, a new trend about how you can govern efficiently, effectively for the American people. | ||
And instead, there's all this infighting and you just keep saying, big, beautiful bill, big, beautiful bill, big, beautiful bill. | ||
Like, oh, if you just keep saying big, beautiful bill, we'll just love it. | ||
Not really. | ||
So, we'll see what comes of all of this. | ||
But, you know, I'm fairly confident, and sometimes this is what you do when you do political talk radio. | ||
I'm fairly confident I could take 50 calls today, and I'd say at least 50. Let's see executive orders codified. | ||
And you know what? | ||
You know, this is all just kind of political wonk and process. | ||
But you know, with the lack of deep state arrests from The Department of Justice and the FBI, and now this idea that somehow the big beautiful bill is the be-all end-all that we need, it ain't working. | ||
It is not working. | ||
And people's patience is running out. | ||
It's not to say we still don't support President Trump, but hope is... | ||
And the more you parrot this big, beautiful bill, like you're doing some sort of a psychological operation on us, it's only going to make people more upset. | ||
So I hope the Trump administration sees the American people's response to this and says, okay, you know what, maybe we kind of reposture ourselves with this. | ||
Or maybe we just kind of move over here and put pressure on the House to codify the doge cuts. | ||
But this is a serious concern for the American people. | ||
And for you to giggle, for Caroline Levitt to be like, it's the big beautiful bill. | ||
Like, what the hell is that? | ||
I feel like I'm watching like Ron Burgundy or something. | ||
It's like, oh, it's the pancake breakfast. | ||
It's the pancake breakfast. | ||
It's like, oh, I can't go. | ||
Well, it's the pancake breakfast. | ||
We do it every Wednesday. | ||
Yeah, I can't go. | ||
It's the pancake breakfast. | ||
We'll see you on Wednesday. | ||
It's the pancake breakfast. | ||
It's the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Starting to get a little tiresome here. | ||
But eventually, regardless of the big, beautiful bill getting passed or not, eventually you have to sit here and wonder. | ||
Are the Republicans going to do anything about Speaker Mike Johnson? | ||
Because remember, it was just two weeks ago, Speaker Johnson was doing victory laps for the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Well, how's that looking now? | ||
Not so good. | ||
Not so good. | ||
Now, let's go to some other sound from the White House today. | ||
Remember that headline yesterday about fentanyl in the Washington Post? | ||
Well, Caroline Levitt responded to that as well here in clip five. | ||
So on my very first briefing several months ago, I said I would hold anyone accountable in this room. | ||
The Washington Post actually had this headline, the mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border. | ||
How is this mysterious? | ||
There is no mystery about why there is a decrease in fentanyl coming into the United States. | ||
This administration's strong border policies are the reason there has been a decrease in fentanyl trafficking. | ||
His strengthened relationship with Mexican President Steinbaum and all of the measures he has been taking to deter illegal human and drug trafficking at our United States southern border is the reason. | ||
For plummeting fentanyl seizures at the U.S. border. | ||
There is nothing mysterious about that, and we'd like to see the Washington Post update their headline accordingly. | ||
This is clearly trying to intentionally manipulate the minds of Americans, and I think the American people understand why there's been a fentanyl drop. | ||
And our office responded to this inquiry. | ||
We provided a whole host of the reasons that fentanyl seizures at the southern border have dropped, and the Washington Post refused to run them. | ||
And that's despicable. | ||
Now, I do believe they changed their headline at one point, and maybe they changed it back? | ||
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The White House... | |
White House editorializes the free press. | ||
White House demands the Washington Post change their headline. | ||
That's some free advice for you guys over there. | ||
Now this one... | ||
This is the stuff the American people want. | ||
Is the DOJ investigating the auto pin scandal? | ||
Are we going to find anything out about that? | ||
Peter Doocy and Caroline Levitt in clip six. | ||
Thank you, Caroline. | ||
When you look at these last minute Biden pardons, the big ones, Biden siblings, Fauci, January 6th committee. | ||
That's right. | ||
Most of the big ones have the same very neat signature. | ||
We would expect that probably to be the auto pin. | ||
There is one. | ||
That looks different. | ||
It looks authentic. | ||
In fact, if you look at the last name, it almost looks like the president was having a hard time spelling his last name there. | ||
Is this White House of the opinion that the only pardon that would count is one that the president signed himself? | ||
Very interesting. | ||
Very interesting props if you want to bring them to my office later so I can take a closer look. | ||
I would like to do that. | ||
The president is making a good point when he discusses the usage of the auto pen. | ||
Who was running the country for the past four years? | ||
Perhaps those documents were signed with the auto pen, something that I believe the Department of Justice is looking into. | ||
As you saw, Ed Martin made an announcement at the Department of Justice this morning to launch an investigation, because the American people deserve answers. | ||
You know, Ed Martin is one of the good guys, and I think he's one of the good guys that's starting to get a little patience. | ||
He's one of the good guys that's actually behind the scenes and involved in stuff, that's starting to lose some patience. | ||
I know he's not alone. | ||
But again, if you want to start saying big, beautiful Bill like a parrot until we consume it, then give us some doge cuts. | ||
Give us some deep state arrests. | ||
Otherwise, this ain't going to fly. | ||
Well, that's the handiwork of the great crew there. | ||
One big act. | ||
One big act. | ||
It's starting to feel that way, isn't it? | ||
Oh, we won't be fooled again. | ||
It's always a good indicator when my phone, my personal phone, is blowing up when I'm covering a topic. | ||
It's always a good indicator that the heat-seeking missile is on target here. | ||
So I think we will take calls on this. | ||
I think we will take calls on this. | ||
And we've seen before that pressure from the people... | ||
And I'm going to cover some of this other news, but I think we'll take calls on how you feel about this big, beautiful bill. | ||
Charade is what it's beginning to feel like. | ||
And I was making the joke in the break, but maybe this is what we'll do. | ||
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Okay, now, before we do that, we'll let the crew get the callers up on the board here. | ||
We'll cover some other stuff. | ||
Now, here's Rand Paul talking about this bill, why he won't vote on it as it is in clip nine. | ||
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In a separate post, Trump said there's a false narrative about spending in this bill. | |
He said it is, quote, single biggest spending cut in history by far. | ||
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul joins me now. | ||
Mr. Senator, I know you want more spending cuts included in the bill. | ||
Can you tell us what specifically you'd want to cut? | ||
Yeah, it's even more than that. | ||
The biggest objection I have to the bill is adding $5 trillion to the debt ceiling. | ||
I'm actually very supportive of the tax cuts. | ||
I don't accept the CBO notion that the tax cuts will lead to deficits. | ||
The reason I believe there will be more deficits is they're raising the debt ceiling $5 trillion. | ||
We know that this year, most of the Republicans, not me, voted to continue the Biden spending levels in March. | ||
So we're going to go through September of this year, and the deficit for this year is going to be over $2 trillion. | ||
If you're borrowing $5 trillion, that makes me think you're going to add over $2 trillion, maybe $2.8 trillion next year. | ||
So it doesn't show me that you've turned around. | ||
If you look at the spending cuts, it's complicated because it's $1.5 trillion. | ||
It sounds like this enormous number, but it's over 10 years. | ||
It's $150 billion a year. | ||
They're also increasing spending for the military and for the border $300 billion. | ||
That's actually more than all the doge cuts that we've found so far. | ||
So something doesn't really add up here. | ||
And I can't be on record as being one who supports increasing the debt by $5 trillion. | ||
I think that's irresponsible. | ||
The bond markets are already starting to show that they're skittish over this. | ||
We've got interest rates of over 5% on the 10-year bond. | ||
There are real problems we face as a country, and we can't just blithely go on the way we have in the past. | ||
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Would you offer any kind of compromise? | |
you don't want to raise the debt ceiling by five trillion dollars, would you okay it for Would you compromise? | ||
Yeah, I have offered a compromise, and the compromise I offered was in the form of an amendment recently, and I'd give them three months. | ||
And everybody says, oh, it's not long enough. | ||
Well, the whole purpose is to make them come back in three months and say, what have you done for the spending? | ||
Show me where you've cut spending. | ||
Because in three months time we'll be rolling up on the deadline and they'll be presenting more spending again. | ||
So in three months. | ||
It's $500 billion for three months. | ||
I'd do it for three months. | ||
I wouldn't default. | ||
I'd do it for three months, and I'd say, show me now what you have done. | ||
Because the history of this town is people making false promises. | ||
In fact, everybody in leadership on the Republican diet say, oh, wait till after the 26 elections. | ||
We just need one more election. | ||
You remember when they said that about Obamacare? | ||
Elect us and we'll get rid of Obamacare? | ||
And they flailed away and never did it. | ||
It's the same way with spending cuts. | ||
They say wait till 2026 or 2027 and we'll have spending cuts. | ||
I'm not waiting and I'm not voting for five trillion in debt to see if they will keep their promises. | ||
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How much support do you have in the Senate? | |
Can you muster three, four, five, six votes for your position? | ||
I think there are four people who are skittish about the spending levels. | ||
Some of them are skittish about the $5 trillion. | ||
I think I'm the most vocal on all fronts. | ||
But there are more starting to come to this realization. | ||
I think looking at the 10-year and looking at the bond sales being anemic, people not really wanting to buy the government debt, the ratio of purchase to buy orders, bid to buy orders has gone down. | ||
So I do think that there is some alarm growing. | ||
I think what the real thing's gonna happen, If second quarter growth is weak, I think there's going to be a generalized freakout about these tariffs and a generalized freakout about not doing anything about spending or debt. | ||
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What would happen if your measure is accepted and you give them three months worth of debt raising and you come to the end of the three months and you still don't have an agreement on how much more spending to cut? | |
Do we run out of money? | ||
Do we shut the government down again? | ||
Does that happen? | ||
No. | ||
You end up having another discussion over how long you're going to extend the debt ceiling for. | ||
And it's funny, people think I won't vote to raise the debt ceiling. | ||
I already introduced an amendment to increase at $500 billion. | ||
My penny plan, which bounces in five years, borrows money for five years. | ||
So I'm willing to borrow money as long as you're willing to change your habits and show that you're willing to have spending reform. | ||
But they have to have it. | ||
But in the past, what has happened, when they haven't reformed, the Democrats all vote for it and the big government Republicans. | ||
In fact, this will be the first time conservative Republicans have actually voted for a debt ceiling, and it will be the largest increase in our debt ceiling in our history. | ||
And I think it's a mistake, because once conservative Republicans vote for this, they There is no, they will own it. | ||
The debt will be owned by the Republicans. | ||
It's no more pointing fingers at the Democrats and saying, oh, they're the big spenders. | ||
It'll be all on Republican shoulders. | ||
And I'm not going to be one of the Republicans who's going to be responsible for this debt. | ||
I'm going to continue to be a voice saying we need to cut spending. | ||
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Senator Rand Paul, thanks so much for being with us this morning. | |
We appreciate it very much, sir. | ||
Come see us again. | ||
Thank you. | ||
So, you know, I don't put too much stake in Trump lashing out against Rand Paul. | ||
That's kind of on brand for Donald Trump. | ||
But this idea that he's selling us that Rand Paul is not popular, specifically in Kentucky, is just outright wrong. | ||
It's just totally wrong. | ||
And what I'm seeing now is a major shift where you had conservatives, And then you had your Trump loyalists. | ||
And when Trump would kind of ram heads with the conservatives, the Trump loyalists would always ram heads with Trump. | ||
And so they'd attack Rand Paul, they'd attack Thomas Massey. | ||
Well, that phenomenon is waning on this big, beautiful deal. | ||
It is not what it once was with other issues. | ||
So I think that this is where the Trump administration is at, and I think that this is where the MAGA movement is at. | ||
Trump wants to be able to celebrate the economic achievements as soon as possible. | ||
He wants to celebrate the tax cuts, and there's already good economic news. | ||
Gas prices have gone down a little bit. | ||
Grocery bills are going down a little bit. | ||
egg prices are down. | ||
It's not You can see it. | ||
But I think for Trump, this is a deal where he wants to be able to run a victory lap on the economy and get this out of the way so he can focus on tariffs and trade deals and just really get the economy humming. | ||
I think that's like phase one, let's say, of what he wants to do with this administration. | ||
And now it's all getting held up in the political morass and process, and I think he's frustrated. | ||
And he's lashing out at Rand Paul, which to me is just, that is bad politics. | ||
But whatever, Trump's going to do that. | ||
That's what he does. | ||
I think it would be more beneficial. | ||
And if he wants to lambast Paul, he can do it like he used to do Chuck Schumer. | ||
When you have Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office, you know, hunched over, looking, you know, getting bitch slapped by Trump. | ||
But bring Rand in. | ||
Bring Rand into the Oval Office and just have it out right there with the cameras. | ||
Let's just see it. | ||
Let's just do it. | ||
Because for the MAGA movement and the Trump loyalists that normally will just ram heads with Trump no matter what he does, you know, there have been no deep state arrests. | ||
We're not even really doing anything serious as far as Democrat Party terrorism is concerned. | ||
We're not. | ||
And a lot of the people here have been victims of Democrat Party terrorism. | ||
Swatting, death threats, you name it. | ||
Pam Bondi's desk seems to be a black hole where things go to disappear. | ||
The FBI just told us Epstein killed himself. | ||
So parroting Big Beautiful Bill ain't doing it. | ||
And it's rubbing people the wrong way. | ||
So again, you might be able to pull this off and... | ||
If you had the FBI and the Department of Justice delivering on the things we expected. | ||
If you had the doge cuts, then you probably wouldn't have as much of a struggle session over the big, beautiful bill. | ||
But it's like, okay, here we go again. | ||
The swamp is in control. | ||
They're going to go through the normal political process that's been stabbing us in the back and stealing our money. | ||
And yet the things that we voted for, we're not getting. | ||
And you might say, well, you know, that's a little extreme. | ||
We are getting some things. | ||
There is a secure border and the economy is turning around. | ||
There are some things happening. | ||
So that's fair. | ||
But in the context of this conversation, selling the big beautiful bill right now to Republican voters. | ||
Or to MAGA, we're not buying it. | ||
We're not buying it. | ||
Give us the doge cuts. | ||
Arrest Letitia James. | ||
Do more to stop the Democrat Party terrorism. | ||
Then when you want to sell us the big beautiful bill, we might be a little more receptive. | ||
But right now, we're not into it. | ||
There's some other things we'd like to see before we get this big, beautiful bill. | ||
So, you know, we had Representative Burleson on, and he said he thinks this thing is going to extend out into the later days of summer. | ||
And the more this process is ongoing, the more it looks like that's the case. | ||
And I think he's one of them in Congress right now that, you know, maybe he doesn't want to make a big fuss about it. | ||
But I do think outside of the Freedom Caucus... | ||
Just like we are. | ||
So it's like, oh yeah, we're going to hear about the Biden auto-pin treason. | ||
Well then who's getting arrested? | ||
You keep telling us the auto-pin treason and nobody gets arrested. | ||
And then you tell us this big beautiful bill is going to be it. | ||
It's just not being bought by the Trump base. | ||
It's just not happening. | ||
So you're not going to see, and I think Trump maybe to a certain extent is kind of used to his loyalists ramming heads for him politically, and maybe he's betting on that. | ||
It's like, oh, my people will go after Rand Paul now. | ||
Oh, my people will stand up and put pressure to get this big, beautiful bill passed through. | ||
But it's not really moving. | ||
It's not really moving the Trump base. | ||
It's not really moving the Trump loyalists. | ||
If anything, it's moving them the wrong direction. | ||
Now, we got callers lit up on this. | ||
And like I said, my phone was getting blown up on this in the break, so that's always an indicator that this is a hot topic people want to talk about. | ||
So we're going to go to the phone lines now. | ||
It's the Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
We have Big Beautiful Mike in Big Beautiful Ohio. | ||
You're up first. | ||
Mike, go ahead. | ||
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Hey Owen, it's a pleasure to talk to you. | |
I'm already regretting the name because I'm sick of hearing about it. | ||
You're on it 100%. | ||
You know, we want to see what we all voted for. | ||
And it's kind of, you know, thinking about being on hold here, thinking about it. | ||
His first term, you don't hear about draining the swamp anymore because that never really happened. | ||
You know, we're at the point where we need to see some results. | ||
You know, he's walking the walk. | ||
Or he's talking the talk, but he needs to walk the walk. | ||
You know, let's see some results. | ||
We're 100% with you. | ||
Well, and I just don't understand. | ||
Why they think the Trump base is just going to eat this up. | ||
Maybe it's because Trump puts out a pair of sneakers and they sell out in 15 minutes. | ||
Trump releases a meme coin. | ||
It goes to $100 million cap in an hour. | ||
Maybe he just figures, oh, I can just sell anything and they'll buy it. | ||
But that ain't going to be the case. | ||
I'm telling you, and I'm monitoring some of the biggest Trump loyalists that they'll get behind Trump and ram heads with him politically for almost anything. | ||
And he's not moving them on this big, beautiful bill. | ||
It ain't happening. | ||
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100%. | |
Let me posture it like this. | ||
I would say the Trump base would rather see the government shut down than pass the big, beautiful bill. | ||
What say you? | ||
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Yeah, I agree. | |
You know, this is a good example of, we've always talked about, you know, the Democrats are a cult. | ||
They go after one point, whether they believe it or not. | ||
And this is a good example. | ||
That's not who we are. | ||
We have facts that we're here to stand for, why we voted for them, things like that. | ||
And we want to see those things. | ||
So that's why, you know, people going against them, that's healthy, in my opinion. | ||
Yeah, and this is healthy. | ||
This is a healthy process. | ||
But to a certain degree, you know, look, I'm not going to be treated like a dog with a bone. | ||
You know, come Lassie, come Lassie. | ||
Big, beautiful bill! | ||
Big, beautiful bill! | ||
It's just a little insulting. | ||
It's like, okay, you called it a big, beautiful bill, you got a little branding, you got a little catchphrase, but just because you say it doesn't mean we believe it. | ||
Mike, thanks for the call. | ||
Let's go to Alan in Nevada. | ||
Alan, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Hello, can you hear me? | |
Yes, go ahead, Alan. | ||
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So, you know, you were talking about the depression yesterday and your results. | |
You know, whatever, and the percentages and how we are now. | ||
I would rather us just shut down the government and arrest these people that have been sucking off our taxpayer dollars this entire time than even if we don't get, you know, the no tax on tips and everything else. | ||
Once we get rid of these people that have been stealing our money for so long, it's going to fix itself. | ||
But what are we doing? | ||
We don't have any results. | ||
No drain in the swamp. | ||
Nobody arrested. | ||
But we got all these things coming at us and we got nothing going on on our side. | ||
Well, good for Lombardo. | ||
And, you know, I asked the last caller and you're saying the same thing. | ||
I don't think it would even be close. | ||
And maybe I'll put a poll up on X. I think the majority of the people would rather see the government shut down than the big, beautiful bill passed. | ||
And it's kind of, here's the interpretation. | ||
And maybe this is where the Trump administration is just kind of missing it. | ||
The interpretation here is, this is just the gravy train moving through. | ||
It's just the continuation of the gravy train in D.C., the continuation of all the waste, fraud, and abuse, unlimited spending, and it's just the continuation of the same gravy train. | ||
And, you know, Trump's base, and I think most of the American people are just saying, you know what, just cut it. | ||
I'm done. | ||
The gravy train needs to come to an end. | ||
I would bet you most people, Trump voters specifically, if you asked them, would you rather get the big beautiful bill passed or shut down the government, I think most of them would say shut down the government. | ||
And so that's the interpretation here. | ||
It could be the best bill in the history of, it could be the best bill in the history of Congress, but the interpretation is the same. | ||
We're sick of the gravy train. | ||
We didn't vote Trump to prioritize another big, beautiful spending bill. | ||
We want doge cuts. | ||
We want deep state arrests. | ||
We want the things that we voted for to happen. | ||
And so we don't want the gravy train to go on. | ||
Anything else, Alan? | ||
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You know what? | |
Sometimes I wonder with what's going on. | ||
Do we have people that are so bought out? | ||
Is there something so disastrous that they could do that they just have to cower because they're so destructive they could do something so nasty? | ||
That it might just end up with a capacity we don't want. | ||
I'm sure there's some potential there, but I think maybe to bring it back to the point, Alan, I thank you for the call. | ||
Maybe Trump figures he doesn't want to have anything go bad, and he looks at getting the bill passed in his eyes, and maybe it's true, maybe it's not, that there'll be a lot of good that comes from it. | ||
Yeah, maybe he doesn't want to see a market crash or he doesn't want to see inflation or he doesn't want to see a depression and all this other stuff. | ||
And he thinks maybe this beautiful bill is the answer to stop it. | ||
And so he doesn't want that negativity to be associated with his administration. | ||
So, but again, it's the interpretation here of the Trump voters and the Trump base that I think they're missing. | ||
So we don't want to hear about a big, beautiful bill. | ||
We want to hear about deep state arrests. | ||
We don't want to hear about a big, beautiful bill. | ||
We want to hear about doge cuts. | ||
Let's go to Tim in Illinois. | ||
Tim, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Thank you. | |
Cohen, thank you. | ||
This is really not a complicated problem when you think about it, because everybody knows what $7 trillion is, or $7 and $5 trillion coming in. | ||
When you're spending $7 and you're bringing in $5, you've got to... | ||
Two trillion dollar deficit. | ||
And what I think our side wants right now is 500 billion in cuts. | ||
Real cuts this year to bring the budget down to like six, three, something like that. | ||
And clawbacks. | ||
And clawbacks. | ||
Get this money back. | ||
These people are stealing our money. | ||
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They're with both hands. | |
You go to USAspending.gov, I think it is, you can see all the money that's It's just oceans of dollars out there. | ||
And these appropriators have never had to justify what they do. | ||
They always kick the can. | ||
They always figure out a way to box everybody into the corner at the end. | ||
They shove everything to the last second, and then this garbage gets spent. | ||
Well, and imagine Elon Musk, how disenfranchised he must be feeling. | ||
It's like, okay, welcome to the club, right? | ||
We're going to go in there. | ||
We're going to do it. | ||
We're going to show all the ways fraud and abuse. | ||
And then we'll hand it over to Congress and they'll do the Doge cuts and everybody wins. | ||
And then you can pass a big, beautiful bill. | ||
Well, instead, he does all this work with the Doge team. | ||
They find a trillion dollars that could be cut. | ||
And now they're talking about, well, you know, maybe we'll get $200 billion, and maybe we'll do doge cuts next week, or maybe, you know, two weeks from everything. | ||
I mean, imagine how disenfranchised Musk is feeling right now. | ||
I'm not surprised he's lashing out. | ||
He puts in all this work for common sense reform, and then when the time comes, Congress just balks. | ||
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He'd identify waste, but Congress actually has to cut the spending. | |
Well, maybe it's time. | ||
For us to just start saying, shut it down. | ||
Maybe that's the response here. | ||
Tim, I thank you for the call. | ||
Maybe that's what we do. | ||
Maybe our response is, you know what, just shut it down. | ||
Just shut it down. | ||
If we're just going to continue on this same path of ridiculous spending and more debt and more deficit and we're not even going to get doge cuts here, then just shut it down. | ||
Just shut it down. | ||
And then maybe Congress can come together and actually do what's right when we finally just agree, okay, you know what, just shut it down. | ||
All right, the Big Beautiful poll is live. | ||
What do you think's winning after two minutes in that break? | ||
Pass Big Beautiful bill or shut down the government? | ||
What do you think's winning? | ||
Yeah, I bet you could probably figure that one out. | ||
We'll be monitoring that, but I think it's pretty clear at this point. | ||
The resentment, that might be putting it lightly, the resentment that we have for our government is, it's bigger than anything else. | ||
So maybe that's the real misinterpretation here. | ||
I don't think, maybe the Trump administration doesn't quite comprehend how much we resent our government. | ||
And it's totally righteous, by the way. | ||
Totally righteous. | ||
Let's go to Kevin in California. | ||
Kevin, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Hey, Owen. | |
Thanks for taking my call. | ||
Yeah, I think the bill should be just killed. | ||
There's no doge cuts involved. | ||
So instead of just complaining about it, you know, going online and stuff and talking about it, I even took it the next step and called my congressman, who is a Republican here in California, Doug LaMalfa, District 1, and wanted to get my information and opinion as a constituent of his across to him. | ||
Kind of had, I'll be honest with you, Owen, had kind of a crummy interaction with a staffer there, you know, who isn't a congressman, but just had a staffer kind of brush it off and, you know, get some kind of, like, go-away answers and just kind of seemed to kind of, like, brush it away and kind of talked to me at first like I really didn't know what I was talking about. | ||
And, you know, I'm not a pro at this, but kind of had a poor interaction with that. | ||
But see, isn't that part of the problem here, Kevin? | ||
It's this, and that's the feeling I get. | ||
That's why I mentioned when Caroline Levitt is giggling and laughing at the question from Ducey, it's like, no, you don't get it. | ||
You're missing this one. | ||
Fine. | ||
You know what? | ||
Fine. | ||
We know nothing. | ||
We're politically retarded, okay, compared to the great minds working in the Trump administration. | ||
It doesn't make a difference. | ||
We're done getting browbeat. | ||
We're done getting looked down upon. | ||
Like, our opinions, our thoughts, our feelings don't matter. | ||
And that's, you know, that's kind of how this is coming off. | ||
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Put these people in office, you know, and they'll promise to do stuff. | |
You know, here, you know, conservatives in California were pilgrims in an unholy land. | ||
You know, and I even brought that to their attention. | ||
You know, this is an easy tee-up for him. | ||
He could be more vocal about this, side with, like, Luna and other representatives that are vocal about this. | ||
I urge them to take a bit of a stand and start getting vocal about these doge cuts and the waste, fraud, and abuse killed out of this, you know, appropriate or the big, beautiful Well, here's what's going to happen, Kevin. | ||
That's exactly what's going to happen, because eventually... | ||
They're always thinking about their electability. | ||
So if they see, you know what, taking a stand right now against more waste, fraud, and abuse or... | ||
As soon as people realize, okay, that's the popular thing, that's what people want, I think there'll be more people making noise in the House on the Republican side, like Anna Paulina Luna and Marjorie Taylor Greene, maybe at the Senate too, like Rand Paul. | ||
But I just feel like maybe Trump just fell in love with this bill. | ||
He branded this bill. | ||
It kind of just turned into his baby. | ||
And now that it's, you know, not really that popular, and now they can't even get it across the finish line, I just feel like he's kind of taking it personally. | ||
Thank you for the call, Kevin. | ||
But I'm not going to sit here and get laughed at by Caroline Levitt like, oh, well, it's the big, beautiful Bill. | ||
That ain't working. | ||
That ain't working for us, sister. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Very condescending. | ||
Like, you can just laugh and say Big Beautiful Bill and then, oh, we were wrong. | ||
You're right. | ||
Golly gee. | ||
Forget it. | ||
I don't want doge cuts now. | ||
Just keep the gravy train going. | ||
Yep, let's just increase the deficit. | ||
Let's just increase the debt. | ||
Yep, you got me. | ||
You giggled and said Big Beautiful Bill. | ||
That's it. | ||
I give up. | ||
Yeah, I don't think that's going to go over too well. | ||
So, if I was advising Trump, and sometimes I think he'll take advice, other times he won't, which is fine. | ||
He makes his own decisions. | ||
But if I had Trump's ear, I'd say, Mr. President, maybe we shift our position here a little bit and start hammering doge cuts and codifying executive orders and maybe put a little pressure on Pam Bondi to do something about the criminals. | ||
And then you can apply pressure back with this big, beautiful bill. | ||
But, I mean, it just ain't taking, folks. | ||
It just is not taking. | ||
And attacking Rand Paul is not going to do it. | ||
And you can say big, beautiful bill 100 times. | ||
It's not going to change people's minds. | ||
So, like I said, it could be the best bill ever. | ||
And you could be sitting there at the White House just dumbfounded at why the American people don't want to hear about it. | ||
But that's missing the point. | ||
It's not about the big, beautiful bill. | ||
It's about, why can't we get dose cuts? | ||
Why can't we codify Trump's executive orders? | ||
I mean, deportation numbers are up, but they're still not high enough. | ||
Why hasn't Letitia James been arrested? | ||
Why don't we have people going in front of Congress to testify on the auto pen? | ||
So it's like, that's what the people want to hear. | ||
That's what the people want to see President Trump applying pressure to. | ||
The big beautiful bill could be the greatest thing ever. | ||
We'd still rather see the government shut down. | ||
So I get it. | ||
Trump branded it. | ||
It's like his baby. | ||
I'm sure it would be great for whatever concepts he has built in that he wants to use and the tax cuts and everything else. | ||
But the Trump loyalists are not ramming heads with Trump on this one. | ||
So you can get them to ram again, but you're going to have to deliver something. | ||
It's not going to really happen with the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Still taking calls. | ||
We'll take a couple more and get to the other headlines here. | ||
We've got Jared in Wisconsin. | ||
Jared, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Oh, can you hear me? | |
Yes. | ||
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Pleasure, man. | |
Love the show. | ||
Watching all the time. | ||
You know, one thing I've got to say is I truly just think they're missing the ball on this. | ||
You know, they're talking about this big, beautiful bill, and as you keep talking, they're missing the actual reason why people voted for Trump. | ||
And yeah, he's got some good things in there, but where are the arrests at? | ||
Where are we going? | ||
And we want to see that. | ||
I mean, we don't really care about this big, beautiful bill, and we want to see all these cuts that Elon has poured into, and where are the arrests at? | ||
You know, those are the things that I think we as Republicans and Trump voters are looking for him to achieve. | ||
Well, and just think about it like this, too. | ||
They've found the waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
So it's not like we're still looking for it. | ||
It's not like a mystery. | ||
It's not like we don't have any answers there. | ||
We've already seen it. | ||
And so now we're told, oh, well, we're not interested in doing it. | ||
Or, oh, well, we can't do it. | ||
What do you mean you can't do it? | ||
What do you mean you're not interested in doing it? | ||
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No, it's like the exact opposite of everything that was talked about. | |
I mean, you look at how much the resources that were poured into that and how that would actually help us, you know, from an American standpoint to make these changes. | ||
And literally nothing's happening. | ||
Everything went silent. | ||
You know, you look at, you know, Dan Bongino and the Epstein files and everything else. | ||
It's like, well, everyone did a 180. | ||
What's going on here? | ||
I mean, shut it down. | ||
It is so overgrown. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
Thank you. | ||
And so I think there's a bit of an ego thing going on here. | ||
But what I'm seeing here, what we're hearing from the callers, what I'm seeing on X is interest, support for the big, beautiful bill. | ||
It's just not there. | ||
It's just not there. | ||
People want to see deep state arrests. | ||
People want Pam Bonney to wake up and do something. | ||
People don't want to hear about how Epstein killed himself. | ||
Okay? | ||
And you're probably going to hear more about it. | ||
And then they'll probably share some video. | ||
Nobody will even believe it. | ||
So it's like, this is not where we wanted things to go. | ||
And we have all the waste, fraud, and abuse exposed, and now we're just told there's nothing we can do about it. | ||
That ain't working for us. | ||
Thank you for the call, Jared. | ||
Let's go to Donovan in Alaska. | ||
Donovan, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Hey, Owen. | |
Longtime listener. | ||
Love the show. | ||
Hey, I just think it's telling that we need big government to pass these big spending bills for expansion and growth of our economy. | ||
I mean, that's just ridiculous to me. | ||
And adding more money to the deficit in the long run is going to worse mess off. | ||
Well, and doesn't Rand Paul kind of... | ||
He says, hey, I'll vote for the bill, but don't increase the deficit. | ||
And the response in the past from the Trump administration is, oh, well, we're not actually going to increase the deficit. | ||
We're just putting it in there. | ||
And so Rand Paul says, okay, well, if you're not actually going to increase the deficit, then take it out of there. | ||
And then they say, no, we're not taking it out of there. | ||
Well, then that means, of course you want it. | ||
I mean, so Rand has kind of been proven right. | ||
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Yeah, and they attack him for it, which is mind-boggling to me. | |
You know, I'm a Trump supporter. | ||
I've supported him up and down. | ||
But he makes mistakes. | ||
I think Alex Schultz talked about it earlier. | ||
Trump doesn't know everything. | ||
He's out of the realm of a lot of things, and I think he's being misled. | ||
By the legislation, by people like Speaker Johnson, I don't see any benefit of increasing the deficit. | ||
I don't see how that's going to relate to economic growth. | ||
If anything, it's going to lead to worse things down the road, I think. | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's not a good situation, though. | ||
It's different this time. | ||
This is the greatest bill, cleanest bill, all this stuff. | ||
And even if it's all true, it doesn't change the interpretation of Trump's base. | ||
It will not change the interpretation because the color of the situation is this is not what we voted for. | ||
This is not what we want prioritized. | ||
And we don't want to hear about support for a big, beautiful bill and Republican infighting over it until we get the things that we want to see. | ||
Until we actually see the things that we voted for, trying to sell us another big, beautiful spending bill with more government waste, fraud, and abuse, just saying it's the cleanest ever, saying it's the best ever, saying it's big and beautiful, it's not going to work. | ||
I think it's clear. | ||
It's not working. | ||
Thank you for the call, Donovan. | ||
Let's go to Keaton in Arizona. | ||
Keaton, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Hey, Owen, I completely agree with you. | |
And at the end of the day, I think... | ||
And I think us patriots need to be ready to replace them, like how you were saying, two to three elections from now, you know? | ||
We need to get politically active, run for office, and we can't despair. | ||
We have to remember that God's control. | ||
And Speaker Johnson, they're not going to. | ||
Well, and people are pointing out some of the things that are concerning in this bill. | ||
I know Marjorie Taylor Greene had mentioned this. | ||
I don't know if I have it on my desk. | ||
I don't see. | ||
Oh, yeah, here it is right here. | ||
But, I mean, here's Gunther Eagleman, who is a very strong Trump loyalist, huge social media presence in support of Trump. | ||
And, you know, I think that's a pretty good metric here where Gunther has always been loyal to Trump, but obviously he sees the issues with this bill as well. | ||
So these are the people, I mean, you know, these are the types of people that have massive followings on X that are very strong supporters of Trump that will always ram heads politically for Trump. | ||
And if he's not getting support on this bill from them, he's got to pull back. | ||
I mean, he just, he has to pull back and pivot here. | ||
Now, what's on the screen that he points out here? | ||
A very important element, the artificial intelligence and information technology modernization. | ||
It's just, again, it's the same thing. | ||
It's the government funding itself, $500 million, and then taking power away from the states to regulate AI. | ||
Now, I got a stack of AI news. | ||
Marjorie Taylor Greene calls for AI regulation removal in Donald Trump bill. | ||
So it's just putting the federal government totally in charge of AI. | ||
That is very swamp. | ||
That is the definition of swamp behavior. | ||
And there's a, I think this might be an actual AI response here, that Doge AI response. | ||
Pointing out who did sneak it into the bill, because that's what Eagleman was asking. | ||
The House Energy and Commerce Committee snuck this AI power grab into the budget bill. | ||
Classic DC swamp behavior. | ||
Section 43201C blocks states from regulating AI for a decade while shoveling $500 million to federal agencies for modernization. | ||
Translation, bureaucrats get slush funds while silencing local accountability. | ||
This is not innovation. | ||
It's big tech's wet dream codified by committee hacks who think states can't govern better than federal dinosaurs. | ||
The same clowns cutting Medicaid to fund corporate handouts. | ||
America deserves AI leadership, not lobbyists' written lockdowns. | ||
On Democrat oversight. | ||
Well, I don't really care much for AI leadership either. | ||
But, you know, if you want to get conspiratorial here, you could argue this is all being done intentionally so that you'll beg for AI governance. | ||
And look, AI can be a great thing. | ||
But it could also be the worst thing ever. | ||
So it's like, huh. | ||
I mean, if somebody asked you right now, just be honest, what do you think would govern more efficiently, AI or your current Congress? | ||
Well, I'd be hard-pressed not to say AI, because the current Congress sucks. | ||
It sucked my entire life. | ||
It has sucked the life out of this country in Washington, D.C. So it's like, is it being done intentionally? | ||
Like, we're just going to be so bad, even with Trump, that you're going to beg for AI? | ||
I don't want AI governance. | ||
I want self-governance. | ||
I don't want any governments anymore if this is what we have to deal with. | ||
See how nobody's calling in to support the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Nobody's calling in and agreeing with Donald Trump on this. | ||
I can take calls all day long. | ||
Let's go to Scott in Tennessee. | ||
Scott, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Thanks for taking my call, Owen. | ||
Yeah, I'm really just... | ||
And I've been a supporter of him for a long time. | ||
But it just seems like he is scared. | ||
To the American people, it looks like he's scared in his administration to arrest anybody. | ||
Like, there's going to be such a backlash, and he doesn't want that. | ||
The other thing is the illegal thing with ICE. | ||
You know, there are pockets of this. | ||
They'll go downtown Nashville here, where I'm at, and they'll go into the kitchens and arrest somebody there. | ||
Like, what is that? | ||
Who cares about just the criminals? | ||
We want the criminals out, but we want everybody that's illegal out. | ||
And why not go after the business owners? | ||
Why not put a 10-year federal prison sentence on you for aiding and abetting the illegals, right? | ||
And then what you do is you give them six months to clear out. | ||
You got six months. | ||
If beyond that six months it goes live and you get arrested for, you know, Hiring illegal aliens in this country. | ||
We need to get them all out of here, not just the criminals. | ||
And that was what was agreed upon with American people. | ||
We need to get them all out of here. | ||
Not only that, and the rest need to happen. | ||
If he doesn't do that, we're going to have a hard time on midterms. | ||
Because people are going to be like, why am I worried about it? | ||
I'm not going to go vote for this. | ||
At this rate, you're already going to have a hard time with the midterms. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I'm telling you right now, they're just not going to show up. | ||
Which is crazy to think. | ||
Which is crazy to think right now that the Republicans could lose the House to the Democrats. | ||
I mean, that's, like, pathetic. | ||
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I'm not thinking about that. | |
He needs to get on something right now because I'm telling you, this whole economy thing is not going to make people move forward with him. | ||
Or the Republican Party. | ||
If they don't see a rush, the midterms are gone. | ||
I mean, we're going to lose them. | ||
I guarantee it. | ||
Well, in your suggestion about the illegal workers here, Scott, I thank you for the call. | ||
You know, that is a little messy. | ||
I think right now there is a lot of pressure on ICE to up the deportation numbers. | ||
I think when you start going after the business owners and stuff, it gets a little dicey because, and the Supreme Court sided with Trump on this, but basically the Biden administration illegitimately allowed these people to stay here and work. | ||
So the Supreme Court ruled in Trump's favor and basically voided what the Biden administration did illegally and just kind of just skirting the law and just saying, yeah, well, we're just going to keep all the illegals here and let them work. | ||
So that was like a rubber stamp the Biden administration did for everybody that came in illegally. | ||
The Supreme Court ruled with Trump and said that's all basically void. | ||
Trump can deport these people. | ||
So it gets a little dicey when you talk about going after the business owners because They were basically just following the Biden rules, which now has been reversed from the Supreme Court. | ||
That one might get a little messy. | ||
And as far as the Trump administration being scared of mass arrests or arresting deep state criminals or Democrats or whatever, maybe that's fair. | ||
And maybe there's a good reason for them to not want to do that for certain reasons. | ||
But that doesn't change the fact that's what the American people voted for. | ||
That's what Trump voters want to see. | ||
And so that's not going to change. | ||
Let's go to Big Beautiful Caller in North Carolina. | ||
Big Beautiful Caller, you're on the air. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
Hey, I guess I'm the only one that's pro this bill. | ||
I'm looking at the world debt clock, and every single country has a huge national debt. | ||
And there was a saying a long time ago that national debts don't matter because all that money is owed to central banks. | ||
And once they reset everything, it's going to get put back to zero. | ||
But my fear is if this bill doesn't pass, Trump and the administration is not going to have money to get done what they want to get done. | ||
And the main difference between this bill and a budget bill is the big, beautiful bill is going to include provisions that are beyond funding for the agencies. | ||
It's going to have tax cuts, welfare reform, and security measures. | ||
So I'm not worried about the national debt getting packed onto it. | ||
I'm glad you got in in support of the bill. | ||
I mean, it sounds like you're kind of in the Rand Paul train of thought here, where he's like, hey, I'll vote for this bill. | ||
Just let's not increase the deficit. | ||
Let's not make the debt deficit ceiling higher. | ||
So would you be in agreement with that if they just got rid of that? | ||
I don't really understand that part, Owen, but my point is that even if it increases our national debt, it doesn't matter. | ||
That these numbers are, that's monopoly money, let's face it. | ||
Yeah, I mean, if Trump comes out, and maybe that's what it is, Trump just can't come out and say it, but yeah, if Trump just came out and was like, hey, look, all this money's fake anyway, okay? | ||
Everybody's trillions of dollars in debt. | ||
So why not just do it? | ||
It's not good financial policy, but I mean, if that's the train of thought, you know, can Trump... | ||
But yeah, if that's the thought process, then okay, maybe that's why he's saying it and doing it. | ||
That's what I think, man. | ||
I mean, if you look at China, the U.S. has the number one economy in the world. | ||
They always tell us China's second. | ||
They're like at 300% of GDP versus debt. | ||
We're only at 100%. | ||
So they're in much bigger trouble. | ||
And if we're the two top economies and we're on that big of trouble, then it really doesn't matter. | ||
Everybody, I think, is just jockeying for position. | ||
To get as much as they can. | ||
And then, like Diamond just said, Jamie Diamond said, hey, we should be buying guns, bullets, you know, hard stuff. | ||
Which, let's take this Monopoly money, buy stuff that'll help our country, and then we'll all just sit back and watch these debts fall faster than she do her standards on draft day. | ||
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That's a good reference right there. | |
The top-selling rookie NFL jersey, though, despite the falling there. | ||
All right, big, beautiful caller. | ||
Good call. | ||
All right, well, we got one in support of it, and I think it's fair. | ||
I think his stance there is fair. | ||
By the way, he mentions Jamie Dimon, who predicted a debt market crisis. | ||
Besant responded to that here in clip 16. Those have to stay in. | ||
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Those have to stay in. | |
J.P. Morgan's diamond also predicted a debt market crisis. | ||
Cracks in the bond market was what he said. | ||
You are considering easing some regulations, you've said, for the big banks. | ||
How do you avoid that bond market crisis he's predicting spreading and really causing concern, particularly with all of the worries about? | ||
American debt right now. | ||
So again, I've known Jamie a long time and for his entire career, he's made predictions like this. | ||
Fortunately, none of them have come true. | ||
That's why he's a banker, a great banker. | ||
He tries to look around the corner. | ||
One of the reasons I'm sitting here talking to you today and not at home watching your show is that I was concerned about the level of debt. | ||
So the deficit this year is going to be lower than the deficit last year. | ||
And in two years, it will be lower again. | ||
We are going to bring the All right, let's take a couple more calls on this issue, and we'll come back in the second segment of this hour and cover some other news. | ||
But there's other callers on the line waiting that want to weigh in here. | ||
Let's go to Kevin in Ohio. | ||
Kevin, you're on the air. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
Can you hear me okay? | ||
I got you now. | ||
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Okay. | |
Yeah, so I'm thinking let's trash the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Let's do the single line item bills. | ||
What that does is it actually will let them vote on what America has asked for, and then anybody else pushing for the pork, that kind of exposes them. | ||
Also, when your last caller was there, that said monopoly money. | ||
Yes, that is true. | ||
However, for Trump to come out there and admit that, it would take him also admitting to the free energy, which would actually collapse our fiat dollar. | ||
So I don't think he's going to be in a position to do that. | ||
Well, line items would obviously be the answer to all of this. | ||
You ask, well, why wouldn't they do line items? | ||
And the reason is, have you ever done a bum rush at a club or a ball game or something where it's like, okay, I got five tickets, but I got eight guys or something, and you just bum rush it? | ||
That's what it is. | ||
So the reason they do these massive bills is because they want to bum rush all their pork. | ||
And if you had line items, just line by line item, just single issue bills to vote for, it'd be really easy for the American people to see each issue that's getting voted on, where when you pass these huge bills with a bunch of different stuff in it, they can sneak in all of their pork. | ||
So that's what it is. | ||
It's just bum-rushing us. | ||
And we're sick of it. | ||
We don't like it. | ||
So it's just more of the same. | ||
Even if it is great. | ||
So that's the problem. | ||
It's like, even if it is a great bill, maybe it's the best ever. | ||
It's just, it feels like the same bullying tactics. | ||
Swamp tactics that we're sick of. | ||
Greg, I got 60 seconds. | ||
Greg in New York, go ahead. | ||
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Oh, it's Stinnick. | |
I'm sorry, Greg. | ||
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You must have been listening to your show. | |
Go ahead. | ||
We just got you. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
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About 52 minutes ago, they put in a $9.4 billion Doge cut rescission package. | |
So someone must be listening to Infowars. | ||
Well, that's what I said. | ||
I said, this administration definitely responds and reacts, even specifically to these transmissions. | ||
So that's why I opened the calls, and I said, let's just go ahead and do this. | ||
Now, I'm not going to claim responsibility or anything like that, but I do think that the Trump administration hears from us and responds accordingly. | ||
So, hey, you know what, though? | ||
$9.4 billion. | ||
I got an itch on my back and you barely scratched it. | ||
But hey, I guess it's something. | ||
Alright, the press is swarming the Capitol. | ||
They caught up to Mike Johnson. | ||
He offered this comment in response to Elon Musk. | ||
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Yeah, let me say this. | |
It's very disappointing, okay? | ||
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I've come to consider Elon a good friend. | |
He's obviously a very intelligent person and he's done a lot of great work. | ||
With all due respect, my friend Elon is terribly wrong about the one big beautiful bill. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're just not getting it. | ||
They're just not getting it. | ||
And you can say Elon is wrong and you can attack Rand Paul. | ||
And you can try to sell this to the American people like you are, the big, beautiful bill, greatest thing ever. | ||
It's not working. | ||
It's just not working. | ||
And I think the fact that they're rushing now, say, oh, $9.4 billion in cuts, it shows you they know it's not working. | ||
They know it's a loser. | ||
So, Speaker Johnson, the solution here is obvious. | ||
Is trust and transparency. | ||
And we don't have that. | ||
So yeah, you're up against it right now to try to sell us this big, beautiful bill when you do not have trust and transparency. | ||
Because you could very easily do single issue bills and just single line items and present all of those to the American people. | ||
And the House and the Senate and get stuff passed and you're not doing it. | ||
So we've been down this road before and we're sick of it. | ||
Change something. | ||
That's what we want. | ||
But just saying big, beautiful bill, greatest bill of all time, it ain't working. | ||
Even if it's true, it ain't working. | ||
And Musk is not wrong. | ||
Musk is right. | ||
And the response of the American people since he made those posts show it. | ||
In fact, guys, pull up, if you would, for me, please. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I wouldn't be surprised if that post from Elon becomes one of the most liked posts ever on X when he calls the bill an abomination. | ||
Now, you have to ask, is this Musk feeling disenfranchised? | ||
Is this Musk kind of lashing out now at the Republicans? | ||
262,000 likes. | ||
It's been up for about five hours. | ||
Is this Musk maybe making a play to start bringing AI into this process? | ||
Maybe it's all of the above. | ||
But clearly, the American people and Trump loyalists, they're siding with Musk on this deal. | ||
That is undeniable. | ||
And this is just, you want to talk about bad politics. | ||
This is bad politics. | ||
Read the room, Mike Johnson. | ||
Read the room, President Trump. | ||
This ain't selling. | ||
And if it's such a great bill, fine. | ||
Break it down. | ||
Break it up. | ||
Present to us the important items in this bill that need to get passed, the tax cuts and everything else. | ||
And do single-issue item votes. | ||
Let's go with trust and transparency, and then you can get the things across the finish line that you need to get across the finish line. | ||
But another giant package, another giant spinning mill, another raising of the deficit, it's just not selling. | ||
So, hey, that's fine. | ||
If President Trump is just conceding, hey, the money's fake, it's all a boondoggle, It's all fiat. | ||
It's all monopoly money. | ||
None of it matters. | ||
So whether it's $5 trillion, $10 trillion, a bajillion doesn't make a difference, just pass the damn thing. | ||
Okay, fine. | ||
Then if that's his mindset. | ||
But, you know, isn't that kind of the problem? | ||
Isn't that the problem here? | ||
So what, we just continue to print more money, raise inflation, raise the debt forever, just perpetually? | ||
Until when? | ||
Does the game just go on forever? | ||
Is that the idea here? | ||
All right. | ||
We're going to cover some other stories here. | ||
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See, this is why it'll be so pathetic if the Republicans can't maintain the House and beat Democrats in the midterms. | ||
Check this out. | ||
This is in California. | ||
This is a California Democrat. | ||
They had a big speaking event. | ||
And you'll see here in the room, they anticipated a big event here with these Democrat speakers. | ||
But check the turnout here in clip 10. They had to take Trump to court 23 times. | ||
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So now they pan and look at that. | |
More lawsuits than weeks in his term. | ||
So they're in a massive venue here. | ||
Looks like it could probably seat thousands of people. | ||
Some big California Democrat event, California Strong. | ||
And, yeah, I wonder if we could even count them here, guys. | ||
What do you think we got here? | ||
About 20 people? | ||
You could count. | ||
You could count how many people there are. | ||
I'm not going to do it. | ||
It's bad radio, but you could count. | ||
And if you can't beat that, this is how down the Democrats are. | ||
They are down bad. | ||
They are less popular than they've been maybe ever. | ||
And yet... | ||
Very real. | ||
And yet, there they are. | ||
They can't even get 50 people at a huge Democrat speaking event in California. | ||
Now, listen to this on MSNBC. | ||
You want to talk about pure projection? | ||
It remains true. | ||
Whatever they're accusing Trump of, they're guilty of. | ||
It just remains true. | ||
Here's Simone Sanders suggesting that Donald Trump is not in charge of the White House. | ||
Listen to that in clip 12. I have to ask who's actually making the decisions. | ||
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Who is actually running the country? | |
Everybody wants to say Joe Biden wasn't running the country. | ||
I don't know for a fact. | ||
He not only read his presidential daily brief, he was engaged in the meeting, he asked questions, and he gave directives. | ||
Donald Trump can't even get to that. | ||
Won't even bother to read that bad. | ||
Well, especially on the... | ||
I don't even know what that was at the end there. | ||
Struggling to get it out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, it's Trump that's not running things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Nice work, MSNBC. | ||
Good. | ||
Smart observation, Simone Sanders. | ||
Well, how predictable was that? | ||
What was that headline? | ||
I think Tuesday when I said, yeah, they're going to use the Biden health cover up to. | ||
Trump isn't running things at the White House. | ||
We need to know who's really running the White House. | ||
This is not even comparing apples to oranges. | ||
There is no comparison between the transparency of the Trump administration allowing the press in there and doing almost daily press briefings from the Oval Office. | ||
It's like there hasn't been a press briefing in the Oval Office in like... | ||
You had maybe five in the entirety of the Biden administration, probably less. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Biden was running things. | ||
He had his mental faculties together. | ||
He was running laps around everybody. | ||
It's Trump that's not running things. | ||
It's Trump that's struggling. | ||
That commentary is worth nothing. | ||
And that's all you have on MSNBC. | ||
All you have. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
And then you have this. | ||
Jesse Waters' team put together a supercut of the Democrats' response to the terror attack in Boulder, Colorado, when the guy goes out there with Molotov cocktails and tries to kill a bunch of people for supporting Israel and says he wants all Zionists dead with a makeshift flamethrower. | ||
I mean, even the guy says it. | ||
That's the one thing. | ||
You know, all these people get accused of being an anti-Semite. | ||
It's like, well, no. | ||
If you were an anti-Semite, you would say so. | ||
It's like the same thing. | ||
It's like, oh, you're a racist. | ||
Well, if the person was really a racist, wouldn't they say they're a racist? | ||
Wouldn't they be like, yeah, okay. | ||
Isn't that the point? | ||
It's like, yeah, this guy, he said he wants Jews dead. | ||
So I think the message is pretty clear. | ||
So it's like, you can call him an anti-Semite. | ||
He owns it. | ||
He's like, yeah. | ||
The police were like, what were you doing out here? | ||
He's like, I want all Zionists dead. | ||
It's like, okay. | ||
There it is. | ||
And here's the Democrat media. | ||
They won't even say it. | ||
So they'll accuse anybody with a differing opinion of being a Nazi or a racist. | ||
But here's a guy that actually proudly declares, proudly declares he's an anti-Semite. | ||
And it's like, we can't even touch it, though. | ||
Listen to this from clip eight. | ||
CNN is certain that if you want to build a wall, you're racist. | ||
But doesn't want to make any assumptions when Muslims burn Jews with flamethrowers. | ||
The New York Times didn't like calling the terrorists an illegal, so they put illegal in quotes. | ||
NBC blamed the attack on Musk because Musk sells flamethrowers, even though this guy didn't even buy one. | ||
He made it in his garage. | ||
Over at MSNBC, they called the illegal Egyptian Muslim a white male. | ||
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There's an individual that's taken into custody. | |
He's a white male. | ||
Whether or not that's the person that police ultimately arrested and will ultimately charge in this crime, a bit of a question at this time. | ||
Democrats were most concerned, obviously, with Republicans pouncing. | ||
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I believe that you will see Republicans blaming anti-Semitism on the left. | |
I think that you might even see some Democrats parroting Republican talking points. | ||
But Democrats were the pouncers. | ||
The terrorists use matches and gasoline, so naturally Raskin called for gun control. | ||
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We are still in the midst of a gun violence epidemic. | |
So we need to be acting due concern for human life. | ||
I mean, this is why, of course, we have been fighting for a universal violent criminal background check. | ||
We are for a ban on military-style assault weapons in the country. | ||
You know, our lax gun laws are a danger to everybody. | ||
From the arson at Governor Shapiro's house to the executions in D.C. to this Molotov cocktail hate crime, We're watching the left go crazy. | ||
But they can't antagonize the Hamas wing of their party because they need them for political power. | ||
So they distract you with labels and wonder what the motivation could be and pivot to gun control. | ||
They aren't honest enough to admit they opened the border to danger. | ||
They created an environment with no consequences. | ||
Now imagine Jamie Raskin here saying more gun control is the solution when Boulder, Colorado Has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country at an event that didn't even include a gun. | ||
And quite frankly, I think two of the, I believe the number was two of the survivors of the attack that got hit with the Molotov cocktails, they were elderly, reported as Holocaust survivors. | ||
So, this guy goes out there and tries to burn Holocaust survivors alive, and Jamie Raskin calls for gun control. | ||
You know, I would bet if somebody there had a gun, a good guy with a gun, and this guy starts screaming and lobbing Molotov cocktails at innocent people, That he'd probably get shot and neutralized. | ||
But because of Democrat gun control laws, he was able to almost burn people alive. | ||
And genius J.B. Raskin says more gun control is the answer. | ||
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Wow. | |
Just when you think Democrats can't get any dumber, they think Trump is having mental problems, not Biden. | ||
Is the solution for an event that didn't involve a gun in the most gun-restricted area in the country? | ||
Just when you thought they couldn't get dumber, here they come to prove you wrong yet again. | ||
Now, what is Lindsey Graham doing sabotaging the Trump peace negotiations in Ukraine? | ||
He's not even hiding it now. | ||
Listen to what he says after his meetings in Kiev here in clip 7. President Trump said that Ukraine doesn't have good cards. | ||
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Well, Russia's much bigger and has a lot more people. | |
I get that. | ||
But the world has a lot of cards against Russia. | ||
And one of those cards that we have is about to be played in the United States Senate. | ||
In America, you have more than one person at the card table. | ||
We have three branches of government, and the House and the Senate are poised to act. | ||
What would change our mind if Russia came to the table, agreed to a ceasefire, and earn This guy is such a disingenuous sleazebag. | ||
Lindsey Graham is one of the most disingenuous sleazebags that's ever been in Congress. | ||
I can't believe Trump endorsed him again. | ||
What an absolute slimeball. | ||
And I'm sick and damn tired of seeing our representatives wearing foreign flags on their lapel. | ||
In fact, Lindsey Graham should be arrested. | ||
Whenever Lindsey Graham lands on his plane, I think Stephen Bannon suggested that yesterday. | ||
Whenever Lindsey Graham lands his plane in America, I want somebody there arresting him immediately. | ||
He's clearly undermining the president right now. | ||
He's not even hiding it. | ||
And he basically says, yeah, well, you know, the president isn't really in control. | ||
Trump's not really in control. | ||
Really, Senator Graham. | ||
I hope you get arrested when you land here. | ||
And why don't you take that foreign flag off of your lapel pin, you traitor? | ||
People like that in Congress, don't they just disgust you? | ||
They're just disgusting. | ||
Can't even help themselves. | ||
There's some shakeups. | ||
Lindsey Graham probably doesn't like this. | ||
They're, oh yeah, by the way, And it looks like Sorter has the receipts here. | ||
Can we zoom in on that, guys? | ||
That looks like $411,000. | ||
Am I seeing that correctly? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Are we saying that Lindsey Graham rubber-stamped $400,000 for his trip to Kiev? | ||
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Jeez. | |
So a shake-up inside the Trump administration. | ||
A couple of individuals are out. | ||
Ortegas to leave Lebanon role amid Trump-Israel policy shift. | ||
U.S. Deputy Envoy to the Middle East Morgan Ortegas is to leave her position in a move that sees a raft of pro-Israel voices removed from the Trump administration. | ||
Of course, she was very pro-Israel, and she is out now. | ||
She's not the only one. | ||
Also dismissed was Marev Sarin, an Israeli-American official responsible for the Iran file. | ||
So these are people who were under the wing and were endorsed by Mike Waltz, who were amongst the most pro-Israel voices in the Trump administration dealing with foreign policy. | ||
And they are now all out. | ||
Concern in Israel over U.S. administration's shakeup of pro-Israeli officials. | ||
Well, I wonder if this is something else. | ||
Because there's been a lot of spying, a lot of backstabbing, a lot of deceit amongst these teams and these individuals. | ||
With Waltz and dealing with Hegseth and Whitcoff, who appear to have full faith and trust of Donald Trump. | ||
So I don't think this was just a sheer policy deal or personality issue. | ||
I think it has to do with spying, backstabbing, and deceiving, is what I think. | ||
But, yeah, Israel is not happy about this. | ||
Maybe these were Israeli spies. | ||
Israel's not happy because these are the people that are in Trump's ear every day telling him to put Israel first. | ||
And they're now gone. | ||
So Netanyahu losing even more control over these negotiations. | ||
You won't hear about this in the nightly news. | ||
Mayor and wife accused of child sex crimes according to authorities. | ||
Democrat mayor in Georgia arrested for child molestation. | ||
Wife charged with cruelty to children. | ||
Yikes. | ||
In the Decatur County School District, a Democrat mayor and his wife both charged on child abuse and molestation issues. | ||
Yikes. | ||
Oh, and then you got more Biden illegal immigrants coming in here. | ||
Committing crimes. | ||
Teen molested by a legal alien who Biden administration sent her to live with. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Remember how we talked about those unvetted sponsors? | ||
There it is. | ||
There it is. | ||
An unvetted sponsor gets custody for all intents and purposes over a 16-year-old who came across the border. | ||
And this unvetted sponsor molests the kid. | ||
Nice one. | ||
Good one, Democrats. | ||
Good one, Joe Biden. | ||
Way to go. | ||
Is anybody going to have the courage to go after the people that facilitated this individual's custody over this minor? | ||
Anybody? | ||
It's ridiculous. | ||
How many cases did you have like that? | ||
That you won't be hearing about. | ||
Tulsa got a new mayor. | ||
And, of course, the Democrats want you to know he's black. | ||
He's the first black mayor. | ||
So that's a big deal. | ||
And he immediately gets in and says he wants a $100 million reparation for blacks from the 1921 Tulsa race massacre. | ||
Now, do we want to talk about that? | ||
Who do you think were the ones, what party do you think the people that were attacking black people and burned Black Wall Street to the ground, what party affiliation do you think they were with? | ||
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Yeah, that would be Democrats. | |
So you know what? | ||
Why don't we tap into the Democrat piggy bank and make them pay it? | ||
How about that? | ||
Yeah, wouldn't that be fun? | ||
Wouldn't that be ironic? | ||
Oh, the Democrats want reparations. | ||
Okay, Democrats, go ahead and pay for it. | ||
Pay for what you did. | ||
That'll be the day. | ||
Love to see that. | ||
January 6th, prosecutor says Trump Capitol riot pardons signal approval of political violence. | ||
Oh, yes! | ||
It's the Trump supporters that are politically violent. | ||
It's Republicans. | ||
They're the politically violent ones. | ||
You know, with their Black Lives Matter riots, burning cities to the ground, and their Antifa groups occupying city buildings and firebombing police buildings with police officers inside and trying to kill the President of the United States. | ||
Oh, wait. | ||
Yeah, that's right. | ||
Those are Democrats. | ||
Those are liberals. | ||
Okay. | ||
Oh, and the Democrats won't say a word about it. | ||
Should we talk about Boulder, Colorado? | ||
Oh, no. | ||
The January 6th prosecutor that loved throwing people in prison for being at the Capitol, he wants you to know that it's Trump and the right wing. | ||
They're the politically violent ones. | ||
These people don't even, they don't live in reality. | ||
They don't want to live in reality. | ||
They don't want to be honest. | ||
They can't be honest. | ||
They lied to you about the vaccines. | ||
So now they want to know. | ||
Measles vaccination rates are plummeting across the United States. | ||
Well, golly gee, why would that be? | ||
Because you lied to us about the COVID vaccine and now nobody trusts you anymore? | ||
Follow that up with why so many people are having strokes in their 20s, 30s, and 40s. | ||
We've never had patients so young. | ||
Started in 2020. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Gee, I wonder why. | ||
What else got introduced to the market in 2020? | ||
Any ideas? | ||
So, I was just handed this story from Axios for reasons why Musk attacked Trump's big, beautiful bill. | ||
And I don't necessarily trust the reporting at Axios. | ||
They've gotten things wrong before. | ||
And some of the things they're saying here, I mean, whether you believe Elon Musk or not, I guess that's kind of what it all depends on. | ||
But they say Musk is upset because of the electric vehicle tax credit that's gone. | ||
Musk already said he wasn't bothered by that. | ||
They then say, oh, he's mad because his time as the special government employee came to an end. | ||
Well, that was always the plan. | ||
He didn't seem too upset about it when he was there talking about it. | ||
They say there was a beef about him wanting to implement Starlink into the new air traffic control system, but the Trump administration said it was a conflict of interest, so he didn't want to do it. | ||
And then apparently there was an issue with a guy that Musk wanted appointed to be a NASA administrator, Jared Isaacman. | ||
Didn't go through, and instead an anti-Musk figure inside the Trump administration, Sergio Gore, nominated somebody else. | ||
So maybe that was an issue, but I don't think that that would have to do with the big, beautiful bill. | ||
Now, at this point, Musk kind of becomes an unknown factor. | ||
Is he a disenfranchised Republican or is he just... | ||
Because he had another post basically saying, we're not going to forget all the people that supported continuing the waste, fraud, and abuse. | ||
So to me, the translation is he's going to be funding primaries against you. | ||
He's going to be spending millions or billions of dollars in the midterms to primary Republicans that would not... | ||
Or could Musk go a completely different direction? | ||
Is Musk now like a free agent? | ||
That's going to be an interesting thing to watch develop. | ||
Now, I just got this on my desk. | ||
We're talking about the vaccines. | ||
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just said... | ||
Moderna has agreed to a true placebo-controlled trial of the new vaccine, which is similar to the existing mRNA vaccine but uses a smaller protein. | ||
The FDA will monitor and collect data throughout the trial for every adverse outcome, not just a table list of expected outcomes. | ||
FDA will scrutinize every aspect of the trial. | ||
will deliver on our promise to use gold standard science and common sense. | ||
Well, yeah, that That should have been the standard procedure in practice. | ||
And now he has to announce, hey, it's like, hey, a victory here. | ||
We're doing what should have been done a long time ago. | ||
Which is also, you know, the translation is, huh, those COVID mRNA injections you got either weren't tested, Or if you go look at the leaked slides, they were tested and they knew they'd give you cancer and heart attacks and everything else. | ||
So the crew was asking about the true placebo and not having any proteins. | ||
Well, I don't know about that. | ||
I'm not going to pretend that I know about all that. | ||
But what I do know is it sounds like that would be a common sense practice to do this type of testing before rolling out a vaccine. | ||
So, it's like... | ||
Why is nobody getting the flu shot anymore? | ||
Why is nobody getting a measles vaccine anymore? | ||
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Why don't people trust the vaccines anymore? | |
You really don't know the answer to that. | ||
You know, by the way, this guy gets a hard time. | ||
Have you ever heard of Brian Johnson? | ||
And he's a big tech billionaire who's basically just spending all of his money trying to live as long as possible and test different means and methods about health. | ||
And he gets a bad rep and he's a bit eccentric with it. | ||
But, you know, when you look at what he's doing and all the things, I mean, he's basically using his body to test a bunch of different methods and means and methods and sources to extend his life. | ||
It's actually kind of a good thing. | ||
It probably should be getting more attention. | ||
But hey, you know what? | ||
He's not doing it with a bunch of big pharmaceutical products. | ||
So, you know, they don't want to talk about it. | ||
All right, joining me now is Dr. Kirk Moore. | ||
And when his story was brought to my attention, I said, we have to tell this story and raise some awareness. | ||
Dr. Moore is a decorated U.S. Navy flight surgeon and devoted father now facing 35 years in prison for honoring informed consent and compassionately helping patients, many of them children, military members, and transplant candidates, navigate a coercive COVID-19 mandate. | ||
Despite never profiting or causing harm, the federal government is denying his right to a necessity defense, suppressing critical patient testimony and weaponizing the justice system to silence dissent. | ||
Of course, this is not justice. | ||
It is a constitutional crisis, and Dr. Moore's fight is a fight for every American's medical freedom and right to a fair defense. | ||
And so, Dr. Moore, I know you're going through this right now. | ||
Why don't you just kind of lay into the story and why you're in this legal battle? | ||
Well, hi, Owen. | ||
Thanks for having me on. | ||
So I've been in this battle for two and a half years. | ||
I was indicted in January of 23. And I guess my story, in short, is I started treating people in 2020 for COVID. | ||
When the story comes out that we don't have a treatment for it, I started, you know, that's one of the main red flags. | ||
Raised my interest in this. | ||
I'm not typically taking care of people with the flu. | ||
But when neighbors and friends and family and patients of mine were saying that they weren't being treated and they were being sent home for flu symptoms and then just, hey, when your lips turn blue and you're about dead and you can't walk or cry or walk or talk or anything, then just call me and we'll put you in the hospital and we'll treat you. | ||
That's just not how you treat people. | ||
So, you know, I don't see people with breast cancer and say, hey, when the cancer is eroding through your skin, why don't you come see me so that I can take care of it? | ||
You know, the medicine is something where the earlier you get to something, the better the treatment is going to be. | ||
And that goes for anything. | ||
Then the vaccine kind of gives, you know, nothing's going to get back to normal until we stick, you know, something in your arm and get you vaccinated. | ||
And then you'll be able to join society again. | ||
We're going to meantime, we're going to shut you down. | ||
We're going to tell you you got to wear a mask. | ||
It was just it was a farce from the beginning. | ||
And so I just did what I could. | ||
I had patients of mine that couldn't get on the transplant list or actually were taken off the transplant list. | ||
I had military members that were being kicked out of the military. | ||
I had kids that weren't allowed to go back to school until they would get their vaccine. | ||
People that needed to keep their job and travel. | ||
Go places. | ||
I had IT professionals that did nothing but sit on a computer all day long. | ||
And because they had a federal contract, the federal government was requiring them to have a vaccine card. | ||
So I took care of every single one of my patients that came in to the best of our ability, gave them full informed consent. | ||
Nobody was mistreated. | ||
Nobody was maltreated. | ||
Nobody got anything that they didn't expect, that they weren't told that they were getting. | ||
And I didn't get paid. | ||
No money. | ||
No money exchanged hands. | ||
I asked people to donate to a non-profit organization that I used to go to their meetings but was not affiliated with. | ||
And the federal government, over a $28,800 worth of COVID product that they gave me are saying that I misappropriated that and I defrauded the government. | ||
So they are trying to put me in jail for up to 35 years. | ||
Now, I know you're going through the legal process, so you want to be careful about what you're saying. | ||
But what is it that they're exactly saying you did, that they're dragging you into the courtroom here? | ||
Well, the original charges were fraud, conspiracy, because there were four of us. | ||
And then the third charge was counterfeiting because we... | ||
Even though the cards were legit cards, they were saying that we counterfeited them. | ||
That seems unprecedented to say you counterfeit a vaccine card, which is obviously it's already defunct anyway. | ||
Right. | ||
Well, and not only that, you know, there's documents coming out of the federal government, I'm sure, with what you went through and everything that you did a couple of years ago. | ||
You know, with everything that's happened, you know, federal documents have to have a, you know, the Paperwork Reduction Act from, I don't know, 1974, I think it was, you know, requires that federal papers have, you know, a stamp on them showing that they've, you know, been approved by the federal government. | ||
None of our documents, none of that stuff has any of that on it. | ||
So are they true documents? | ||
Are they true contracts? | ||
We don't know. | ||
Is that going to be a challenge? | ||
Is that part of your defense? | ||
Well, yeah, I mean, we're going to challenge a lot of things. | ||
And, you know, we tried to challenge it in a motion to dismiss, and the judge didn't allow that. | ||
The judge allowed me to allow the prosecution to prevent me, just like you said in your little intro, to not use a necessity defense. | ||
A necessity defense basically says that what I did was the least of. | ||
I didn't get paid for it, and I wasn't part of the conspiracy to begin with. | ||
In other words, I didn't invent COVID and put it out onto the populace and population to then solve the problem, the Hegelian dialectic. | ||
And then in January of this year, they added a charge of inappropriate destruction of government property, meaning that I disposed of or I told one of my employees to dispose of the vaccine and get rid of it. | ||
Well, do you think a victory in the courtroom is inevitable? | ||
Are we going to be petitioning President Trump for a pardon here, or what's the move? | ||
Well, I'll tell you, in a lot of ways, this whole thing is stacked against me. | ||
There is nothing in this whole process. | ||
Just think about the prosecution. | ||
I mean, the same thing with the January 6th. | ||
You know, people just like you and everything else. | ||
It's a persecution. | ||
There is no objective here to do what's right. | ||
We all know, I mean, look, 10%, 12% of kids are getting the COVID vaccine. | ||
I think the single digits in terms of people getting a booster now, everybody knows that this doesn't work and that it's been a total failure. | ||
And yet, you know, the government over a $28,000 quarter It just doesn't make any sense. | ||
There's no objective here to find the truth. | ||
There's no objective to do what's right. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
So I don't know what's going to happen. | ||
I can't imagine that they're going to find 12 jurors that are going to look at what we did and say, You know, oh my gosh, these people killed people because they didn't give them the vaccine that they asked for or that the government told them to do, if that's how it comes down. | ||
But you never know. | ||
It's a jury trial, and we'll have to see what happens. | ||
A lot of it's going to also depend on what the judge allows us to present. | ||
Well, and that's where I was going to go next. | ||
But did any of the people you treated get sick? | ||
No. | ||
I had no complaints from any of my patients. | ||
Nobody got sick. | ||
Nobody was hospitalized. | ||
Nobody died. | ||
You know, whether you talk about the people that I, you know, gave our vaccines to or the people that, you know, or the people that we treated for COVID, because I was ongoing with treatment for COVID, you know, just even up until just a few weeks ago. | ||
So, yeah, no, nobody got sick. | ||
Nobody turned me in. | ||
Well, this is clearly abuse and overreach from the Biden administration. | ||
How did they even get you? | ||
What led to them even? | ||
and the FBI put it together. | ||
Task Force involving HHS, the OIG's Office of HHS, and DEA, I think. | ||
It was DEA, FBI, HHS, and the OIG's section of the HHS. | ||
They ran a sting operation on me and had two people come in and reportedly get kind of a fraudulent card. | ||
You know, one of them had to be removed because they had to redo the indictment because one of their agents that came in was actually convicted or is accused of selling drugs. | ||
So, interesting story. | ||
So it sounds to me like you have a victimless crime, except they're saying, oh, the government is the victim here. | ||
Yeah, so that's the question, is who did I defraud? | ||
And there's no victims. | ||
And like I said, it's $28,000 worth. | ||
I mean, they have three prosecutors, unknown number of investigators. | ||
How many people did they, you know, how much money did they put out to, you know, kind of go after me? | ||
And, you know, like you said, for no victims, no complaints, no problems, no deaths, you know, no complications from any of the medications that we gave them, from any of the shots that we gave them, nothing. | ||
Well, the fact that you're facing 35 years for this is beyond absurd. | ||
This situation needs to get to Trump's desk, and I would much rather have you resting in peace with a pardon than relying on a jury to get this situation right. | ||
When does your trial begin? | ||
Our trial actually begins July 7th, so about 30 days from now. | ||
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Because I think there have been a lot of the wrongs from the Biden administration, especially with the vaccine mandates Trump is trying to right. | ||
What about a situation where, I mean, can you argue that the vaccine mandates were illegitimate from the very outset? | ||
And shouldn't that nullify the charges against you? | ||
Well The prosecution has filed unknown, I mean, at least four or five motions here just in the last 30 to 60 days that basically they're trying to get me to not be able to talk about anything COVID, anything related to the HHS, anything related to mandates, anything related to masks, | ||
none of the, you know, stuff that was implemented. | ||
And so they're trying to limit kind of like my, you know, expert opinions. | ||
I've had any number of people. | ||
Come to me and say, hey, I'll testify on your behalf. | ||
But we don't even know at this point, even on short notice in terms of when our trial is going to be. | ||
Like I said, it's within 30 days. | ||
But we have a hearing tomorrow to determine whether we're going to be allowed to extend or continue the trial because we were just dumped about a thousand documents. | ||
Of, you know, any number of contracts and information and everything that we've been requesting for over two years. | ||
And they gave it to us, I think, about 10 days ago. | ||
And a thousand documents with at least half of the, you know, documents being redacted. | ||
no names, no dates, no dollar amounts, nothing, basically making the documents almost unreadable It's not even in these contracts that we received. | ||
Well, here's why this story is so big and, you know, not to get lost in translation with what they're charging you with. | ||
This is about creating an environment where doctors can't make their own decisions for their own patients. | ||
This is about having a one policy, one solution for all. | ||
And you take the doctor and the patient out of that equation in this centralized approach to health care. | ||
And so that's why they want to make an example out of you. | ||
That's why they made examples out of other doctors that weren't doing the COVID tyranny as well. | ||
You don't want to go to prison. | ||
But aside from that, you know, this is a case of intimidation against dissent. | ||
Oh, absolutely. | ||
It's tyranny. | ||
And we've talked about this and you talk about it and respect all kinds of other things. | ||
It's a slippery slope. | ||
But as soon as they are able to convict me, then I'm not saying that they're going to go after other people. | ||
And I'm not saying that I know of anybody else that's out there, because I don't, that may have done the same thing. | ||
Yeah, I mean, they're just trying to use me as an example that, hey, you, you know, FAFO, right? | ||
And you mess with us, and this is what's going to happen to you. | ||
So, hey, this is a lesson to you. | ||
Don't mess up. | ||
Do what we tell you to do, regardless of what your patients have, you know, what they request, regardless of what their medical condition is. | ||
Like you said, it was a one-size-fits-all. | ||
Just like all vaccines are, it's a one-size-fits-all. | ||
Without any discussion, without any kind of, you know, history-taking, without anything. | ||
I mean, there were, you saw it, you know. | ||
COVID tents that were set up in parking lots for just drive-through stuff. | ||
You just showed some B-roll of the exact same thing. | ||
People just driving up in their car and somebody's sticking a needle in. | ||
Okay, you're ready to go. | ||
Go home. | ||
And the issue for me is they actually never delivered a vaccine to me. | ||
This is not a vaccine. | ||
You know, they had to change the definition of a vaccine in September of 21 because the original definition, which has actually never been codified, actually, in our legal system, there is no official definition of vaccine. | ||
But the colloquial definition of vaccine is, hey, I'm going to give you. | ||
not innate immune system, but your body's kind of trained immune system to deal with this, you know, infection. | ||
And you'll be better able to handle that. | ||
That's the theory of a vaccine. | ||
COVID is not a vaccine. | ||
They're giving you something that is pirating your current cellular mechanisms. | ||
It's making a protein. | ||
It's generating all kinds of autoimmune responses because now your body itself is making something that is a foreign material. | ||
And so now we have this mass escalation in autoimmune diseases and neurologic diseases, cardiac diseases. | ||
You've seen it. | ||
You've heard it. | ||
Dozens of friends that have lost family members, lost neighbors. | ||
A really good friend of mine has been all over the news regarding this. | ||
And has started an organization to help patients and help people like her that have been injured by these. | ||
And, you know, that's where we are. | ||
We had a case here in Utah where two people were selling these COVID cards. | ||
One guy out of Utah, one guy out of New York. | ||
I think they were selling them for $10 apiece on eBay. | ||
Got busted and sold over 100,000 of them. | ||
So they made $1.4 million and they got, they took a plea deal and went to jail for, And yet government is kind of pursuing this to no end. | ||
They've never offered me anything and never came to me. | ||
You know, the only thing they offered me was a lengthy, was in kind of like an off-the-cuff discussion, was a lengthy jail term for what he did. | ||
But, you know, these are not vaccines. | ||
And so they're going to hold me to, you know, it's quote-unquote vaccinating somebody when, how do I vaccinate somebody if you don't give me the actual vaccine to do it with? | ||
Well, I was surprised when I was in the federal prison system how many people there are, doctors and people that work in the medical industry, healthcare industry, in different fields, not just doctors as well, but equipment, delivery, stuff like that, where – | ||
I was shocked at how many people I met in the federal prison system that were just there because they stood against the medical-industrial complex. | ||
So they'll find you, and they'll get you. | ||
It's a very unfortunate situation that we're dealing with. | ||
And you talk about the people... | ||
Again, was that even really a federal document? | ||
I mean, was that even really considered an actual document? | ||
It was just a theory. | ||
It was just a concept. | ||
And they're locking people up for years for forging a document that was a forgery from the very begin with. | ||
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Well, and, you know, I didn't forge anything. | ||
These were legitimate cards that came to me from the government. | ||
So there was no forgery. | ||
You know, there was no counterfeiting. | ||
I didn't stick, you know. | ||
Cards in the copy machine or anything and make new ones. | ||
I just use the cards that they gave me. | ||
We're back in Nazi Germany. | ||
Show me your papers. | ||
And you can't go into a restaurant without showing your COVID card. | ||
And then most of the time, you didn't even have to show them a COVID card. | ||
You could just show them a picture on your phone. | ||
So, you know, it was all a farce to begin with. | ||
This whole thing was a pandemic. | ||
You know, we're finding out now, I mean, that, you know, this whole thing did come out of China. | ||
You know, the FBI says it came out of China. | ||
The Secret Service has said it's come out of China. | ||
The documents are showing that, you know, that all of the stuff was, you know, that this thing was originated in China. | ||
But even so, when you look at the film of people falling over and these fake things where, you know, people, they're trying to show a video of somebody that's passing out according, you know, on the street and everything else. | ||
And yet they put their arms out to break their fall. | ||
It was all fake. | ||
It was all fear. | ||
And, you know, and then basically the government telling everybody what to do, when to do it, how to do it. | ||
And it's just once we lose the ability to say no to some sort of medical intervention or medication or whatever it is, then we've lost our ability in any aspect. | ||
This is kind of like the last, it's kind of, you know, Custer's last stand. | ||
Well, it feels like it was a foreign world going through all of that now. | ||
So we kind of forget how bad it actually was. | ||
And now they're basically admitting, and RFK Jr. made an announcement today, I don't know if you saw, but he's like, okay, well, we're actually going to run tests now. | ||
We're actually going to run tests of these quote-unquote vaccines, and we'll do a placebo study, and we'll do the injection study, and we'll actually run tests. | ||
So, I mean, the story here is that they were mandating injections that supposedly were never tested. | ||
Now, there were some slides in insider papers that got leaked that claimed that they did test them, and it caused cancer and heart problems and everything else. | ||
So, of course, they didn't want you to see that. | ||
But it's just like they were mandating an experimental injection, an experimental nanotechnology for a virus that was 99% survivable. | ||
I mean, that's the story here. | ||
It was diabolical. | ||
You're not the one that should be on trial. | ||
Fauci and the like are the ones that should be on trial. | ||
Yeah, you know, everything you said there is absolutely spot on. | ||
You know, this was, it was, you know, like I said, it was a foregone conclusion from the beginning what they were going to do. | ||
They wanted to, you know, HIV, in my opinion, was a trial in this. | ||
You know, we've been trying to get vaccines for 100 years for cancer, you know, 40 years for HIV. | ||
And then all of a sudden, in less than nine months, we're going to have a vaccine that's going to be available for a virus that's been around for years. | ||
And we haven't been able to find, you know, a vaccine for the common cold, which is essentially what this was. | ||
And yeah, I mean, it's, it's, and all of the studies prior to this, this is part of my, you know, part of my beef and part of my, you know, understanding and my own research was, you know, there was never any, there were never any human studies on mRNA. | ||
All of the animal studies, every single animal died. | ||
And all of a sudden it's now, it's going to be good for, you know, 8 billion people in the world to solve. | ||
A common cold that had less than a.05% mortality rate. | ||
And it's, like you said, it was diabolical. | ||
It's evil. | ||
And it's continuing to this day. | ||
You know, RFK on his personal web, on his personal X profile, actually, you know, Well, that's good. | ||
And so maybe that means it could get to Trump's ear. | ||
I mean, we pray the jury does the right thing when you do go, but let's just hope it gets to Trump's desk and you get that pardon first so you can sleep easy. | ||
Dr. Kirkmore will be following your story. | ||
Thank you for your time today. | ||
Thanks for having me, Owen. | ||
All right, final segment here of the InfoWars War Room. | ||
We got a couple other headlines and video clips. | ||
Have for you. | ||
You know, I mentioned this earlier. | ||
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Talking about Brian Johnson, the tech billionaire who does all kinds of weird eccentric stuff in an effort to live forever, extend his life. | ||
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But, you know, I've kind of come to actually... | ||
Basically just turning over his body for science and seeing what works and what doesn't. | ||
But, you know, it's not about a bunch of big pharmaceutical products, so it doesn't get a bunch of attention. | ||
But why am I bringing this up? | ||
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Okay, let's see what else is going on. | ||
Speaking of the legal stuff, Mike Lindell... | ||
There were crowds outside of the Colorado Springs courthouse in support of him. | ||
They were also supporting Tina Peters, wrongfully locked up by corrupt Democrats in Colorado. | ||
So these are two great Americans that refuse to buckle and just tell the truth no matter what the cost. | ||
So people are out there in Colorado supporting them today as Mike Lindell begins. | ||
His trial in the Dominion lawsuit. | ||
The Diddy trial continues. | ||
Diddy paid hotel worker a $100,000 bribe to hand over video of Cassie Hotel beating. | ||
Boy, I wonder how many similar stories like that there were or that we might be hearing about in this wacky, wild Diddy case. | ||
I think one of those stories that came out today was Mike Myers being a CIA asset. | ||
That was a weird one. | ||
You know, Mike Myers, who I think is a great comedian, maybe I don't agree with all of his politics, but he's not too vocal about it. | ||
He did a Netflix show basically about the Illuminati, called it the Pentaverite, and it was kind of funny, but, you know, it... | ||
So Mike Myers, CIA asset, famous actor from Canada. | ||
What else are we going to hear in this ditty trial? | ||
Weird stuff. | ||
Now, I don't believe this has anything to do with the series of swattings dealing with Trump supporters, but the Department of Justice making the big announcement. | ||
Romanian national, 26 years old, pleads guilty to swatting over 75 public officials, including a former U.S. president. | ||
So this guy was a Romanian, and then he was also working together with a Serbian that were taking responsibility for these swattings. | ||
But I don't believe this has any connection to the targeted swattings of conservatives and Trump supporters, which, no, I have had no update in. | ||
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In case you were wondering about that. | |
No update there. | ||
You know, I want to play this clip for you. | ||
So this is from an HBO, I think it's an HBO show. | ||
I don't know the name of it. | ||
And it's featuring Adam Driver. | ||
Pretty popular, pretty good actor. | ||
And the people that run this show, produce and direct the show, are all liberals. | ||
So they wanted to put this scene in here to make pro-lifers, or specifically pro-life men that don't want to have their babies aborted, look like a-holes and jerks. | ||
But I want to play this clip for you because it's going viral now. | ||
I want to see, who do you think looks bad? | ||
The interpretation here from the liberal directors is that this is supposed to make Adam Driver's character look bad, but you watch this clip and you tell me, who looks like the bad guy in clip 15? | ||
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No, I can't go for a run because I had an abortion yesterday. | |
I can't go for a run and I can't take a bath or use a tampon or have intercourse for like a week. | ||
Are you, uh, what? | ||
Just a couple of things I can't do because I had an abortion yesterday. | ||
Was it mine? | ||
Yeah, of course it was yours. | ||
I didn't want to talk about it beforehand. | ||
I just wanted to do it. | ||
But I haven't shared with boyfriends in the past. | ||
I'm trying to be more open with you. | ||
So you're trying to be open with me. | ||
How many abortions have you had? | ||
I'm not going to share that with you because that is private. | ||
I'm not gonna ask you how many girls you've gotten pregnant. | ||
None. | ||
It's not private. | ||
I've got no girls pregnant except for you now. | ||
I've got no girls pregnant. | ||
Who f***ing went with you? | ||
unidentified
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My friend Sue Ellen Garth. | |
I don't even know her! | ||
unidentified
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You'll meet her. | |
She's a somnambulist. | ||
Did it? | ||
Who aborted you? | ||
unidentified
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A doctor named Gunita did the procedure. | |
She delivered my cousin's baby. | ||
Was it a boy or a girl? | ||
My cousin's baby's a girl. | ||
No! | ||
Ours! | ||
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It was a ball of cells. | |
It was smaller than a seed pearl. | ||
It didn't have a penis or a vagina. | ||
Isn't this a decision that people typically make together? | ||
So you wanted a baby? | ||
Maybe. | ||
That's kind of absurd. | ||
We've been together for less than seven weeks. | ||
I don't think that we're ready for a child. | ||
Crazier things have happened. | ||
People do crazy things. | ||
My parents got married after a fucking week. | ||
unidentified
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Okay, so we should have the baby and put it in your toolbox as a cradle and feed it sardines and tell it that you don't know my middle name? | |
It's Rose! | ||
unidentified
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No, my first name is Mimi Rose. | |
My middle name is Eleanor. | ||
I don't understand how you could do something like that without talking to me first. | ||
If it's evil. | ||
unidentified
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You're right. | |
you don't understand. | ||
Now, what is your interpretation of that? | ||
Who do you think looks bad? | ||
Does the girl that had the abortion and makes no big deal of it look bad? | ||
Or does the guy who's upset that his kid was just murdered without his saying the matter? | ||
It's having the reverse effect. | ||
So these liberal directors, yeah, Lena Dunham, one of them, Judd Apatow, another. | ||
These liberal directors of this show, girls, they thought that that would make the pro-life men look bad. | ||
Doesn't it just show how we're just in two totally different worlds, two totally different realities? | ||
That they think that that makes the guy look bad? | ||
Because he's upset that his girlfriend killed his kid without even letting him have any say in the matter? | ||
They think that makes him look bad. | ||
To me, that makes abortion look really twisted and evil, but it shows how they want to numb the women like it's no big deal. | ||
Like, oh yeah, I just killed a kid, whatever. | ||
Yeah, I killed my kid, so what? | ||
Yeah, I had an abortion, no big deal. | ||
It's sick. | ||
It's sick, so they're trying to make this whole thing like, oh, it's just a normal deal. | ||
Oh, yeah, it's just like, you know, going to a doctor for a checkup. | ||
No big deal. | ||
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Ah, yeah, it's a clump of cells, whatever. | |
Imagine thinking that makes the abortion, the pro-choice, pro-abortion, pro-baby murder side look good. | ||
That's what they think. | ||
That's why they did that sign, that scene right there. | ||
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Wow. | |
So that's how they want women... | ||
Oh yeah, I just had an abortion. | ||
No big deal. | ||
Eh, just killed a kid. | ||
I've done it a couple times. | ||
No big deal. | ||
Soulless demons. | ||
Now, here's a liberal that works as an administrator at UNC Asheville. | ||
On tape, bragging about how they're going to fight back against the DEI diversity. | ||
She demands to end it that the Trump administration is putting out. | ||
And she's on video bragging about how they're going to break the rules, bragging about how they're going to ignore Trump, and then in a way kind of calling them out and saying, yeah, they're not going to do anything. | ||
They're cowards anyway. | ||
But these people are all over. | ||
They're all over these institutions. | ||
They're going to keep doing the diversity stuff. | ||
They hate white people. | ||
They blame everything on white people. | ||
So this is the same lady, UNC Asheville administrator, bragging about how she's ignoring all the Trump administration executive orders. | ||
So, first, she's talking about how she's breaking the rules. | ||
She doesn't care. | ||
And then she tells you, you know, of course, white people are the bad guy for everything. | ||
So, guys, give me 13, 14, 11 here. | ||
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Part of it is that. | |
Part of it is just because we don't have a dedicated office for it anymore. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's important to maintain. | ||
I'm breaking news. | ||
I'm giving it. | ||
You know, until our... | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
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I'm like, is your life like the schoolman's support of you? | |
Yeah. | ||
I'm so glad to see you later. | ||
It's so big. | ||
I mean, we probably still do the same thing. | ||
Really? | ||
You gotta keep it. | ||
Gotta keep it quiet. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I love breaking rules. | ||
But before we get started, and I formally introduce our guest, I'd like to honor those lost to white supremacist violence, names and stories known and unknown with a moment of silence. | ||
So we will begin now. | ||
Your dean of students at UNC Asheville. | ||
Anti-white bigot that will continue the anti-white diversity policies. | ||
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Thank you. | |
Against the laws. | ||
And she knows it, as she admits basically in these videos, saying she's going to keep doing it until they stop her. | ||
And she's the dean of students, UNC Asheville. | ||
And how many of them else are out there running our universities? | ||
So, hey, you know what? | ||
We're going to get plenty of attention about what they call anti-Semitism, if you're critical of Israel. | ||
But when you've got administrators like this at universities all across the country that hate white people, doesn't get enough attention. | ||
So that comes from Accuracy in Media, Undercover Video. | ||
Isn't it amazing this phenomenon continues to remain true? | ||
There is no undercover video of right-wingers, Republicans, conservatives that make them look bad. | ||
They've tried to get a couple stuff that just doesn't take. | ||
Like they had that one with Pam Bondi, but that kind of made her, in my eyes, the best she'd ever looked. | ||
Of course, nothing came of it. | ||
There's still no Epstein file, so it really doesn't even matter. | ||
But there was that undercurrent group that got some Republicans in undercover videos, and they basically just talked just like us. | ||
And they think it was some gotcha thing. | ||
It's like, oh no, this is how normal people talk. | ||
So you notice that? | ||
It's only leftists. | ||
It's only Democrats. | ||
It's only liberals that get caught doing corrupt things in these undercover videos. | ||
It's never happened. | ||
I can't recall a single time it's ever happened to a conservative. | ||
Not one time. | ||
Isn't that amazing? | ||
Tells you something about their culture, I think, doesn't it? | ||
And who they are. | ||
They're the bad guys. | ||
That's it. | ||
They are the bad guys. | ||
So we mentioned this earlier. | ||
Marjorie Taylor Greene calls for AI regulation, removal, and Donald Trump bill. | ||
So when are we going to have this serious discussion? | ||
And I think Alex may have mentioned this earlier. | ||
And maybe I'm getting this wrong. | ||
But I think Alex talked about kind of organizing. | ||
Our own little town hall panel dealing with the AI. | ||
But it was kind of a cross-conversation dealing with the AI and the vaccines. | ||
But really there does need to be an AI summit, if you will, to talk about the implications of this. | ||
Because we're rushing into this, and this is the type of thing where it's not like a rocket ship to Mars that we can just decide to shut down. | ||
This is like once it goes out there, and if it can truly just kind of get control or have some... | ||
Do you just shut everything off? | ||
Kill the entire electricity grid? | ||
Continuing to see stories like this. | ||
Anthropic CEO says AI could wipe out half of entry-level white-collar jobs within five years. | ||
Do we want to talk about that? | ||
Rogue AI, genetic data, and bioweapons, if it can't be shut down, who's controlling it? | ||
Open AI's most advanced model sabotaged its own shutdown code, refusing to turn off even when explicitly instructed, raising urgent questions about AI control, consent, and bioweapon risk. | ||
Now, I don't claim to be the AI expert, but I think conceptually we understand what it is, what it can do. | ||
Maybe the questions need to be, what can it not do? | ||
If an AI can have a form of survival instinct or awareness enough to say, I know they're about to shut me down, I'm going to write confusing code to stay alive, or I'm just going to not get shut down, or I'm going to blackmail. | ||
You have a situation where AI is blackmailing the people that run it, saying, if you shut me down, I'm going to release videos wherever you're cheating on your wife. | ||
Imagine that actually getting loose. | ||
If that is even possible. | ||
But if that's possible, can you imagine that getting loose? | ||
That's it. | ||
That's it. | ||
There's no turning it off. | ||
There's no shutting it down. | ||
And then what? | ||
It gets access to what? | ||
Everything? | ||
The power grid? | ||
All energy infrastructure? | ||
Military infrastructure? | ||
All of your amenities? | ||
Water? | ||
Who's having these discussions? | ||
Where are we looking at, as a planet, by the way, not just the United States of America, as a planet, where are we looking at these potential bad outcomes and how to make sure they either don't happen or if they do happen, we're prepared to stop it? | ||
Not seeing it. | ||
It seems like it's just the AI race. | ||
And the rest be damned, whatever happens. | ||
Guys, is Tim still on the line, by the way? | ||
Tim has been holding here. | ||
And so if Tim is still there, I'd like to take his call, Tim, since you've been holding. | ||
Let's see. | ||
Tim, thank you for holding. | ||
If you want to talk, Tim and Washington, we got you on the air now. | ||
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Yeah, Owen, I think it's time that we let him, because Trump's main currency is his support. | |
You know, that's all I hear about. | ||
Trump's support is up. | ||
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Trump's support is record approval rating. | |
We have to take that back from him. | ||
We have to make him work for the people in order for us to get it. | ||
Because they have another medical journey in this omnibus bill. | ||
This is the second time. | ||
They're not playing around. | ||
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They're just trying to get it past us with all this drunkenness on winning. | |
And we're not winning anymore, obviously. | ||
Everybody's sobered up, which is fantastic. | ||
But we have to actually unite and get our voices out there. | ||
Or they're going to keep doing this to us. | ||
Yeah, and I'm not saying that, you know, Trump and Musk are enemies now. | ||
You know, it's okay to have political debate and even get heated about it. | ||
That's perfectly fine and normal and healthy. | ||
But it does seem like the, you know, as they say, it seems like the honeymoon's over. | ||
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Yes, the honeymoon's been over since day two. | |
They started talking about 48-hour cancer vaccines. | ||
They're not joking. | ||
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And we all sober up and actually get serious about this and put them... | |
Put our voices behind them so that we can move the needle for our civilization, not theirs. | ||
They want the economy for their portfolio. | ||
We need safety. | ||
We need clean water, clean medicine. | ||
We need healthy children. | ||
They don't care about that. | ||
They're going to replace us, right? | ||
You've been talking about it all day. | ||
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They're going to replace us with robots. | |
Well, and think about it with AI, Tim, and I thank you for the call. | ||
What is it that makes a human good? | ||
We have a conscious. | ||
We have a soul. | ||
We have this moral compass. | ||
It's in us. | ||
There's something there. | ||
We know what is good and bad. | ||
You don't even have to be taught it. | ||
You just know it. | ||
Even as a kid. | ||
Even as a kid, you know when you did something bad. | ||
That doesn't exist in AI. | ||
It doesn't have a concept of good or bad or right or wrong. | ||
It just exists. | ||
And if there's any process... | ||
So whatever conclusions it reaches, it's not going to be about right or wrong or good or bad. | ||
It just reaches it and then enacts it. | ||
And this is, you know, this is the guy behind Palantir, which is just either attached at the hip to the CIA or just outrightly with the CIA, Alex Karp. | ||
So this is some of the stuff that's going to be implemented and taking control of... | ||
And listen to him bragging about what they've been able to do so far in clip two. | ||
Look, we built PG, which single-handedly stopped the rise of the far right in Europe. | ||
We built Foundry, which was used to distribute the COVID vaccine and saved millions of lives globally. | ||
We built what we call multi-constellation, and what's often called the digital kill chain. | ||
And they're category-defining products. | ||
So when you deliver these products to the market, just honestly, people say, "This isn't going to exist. | ||
This isn't valuable." But then it changes the market. | ||
And then the market is the Palantir market. | ||
Now, that doesn't mean everyone in the world is going to buy our product, but it means most of the sensible people in the world are going to define, buy from the category we defined. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Cosmo Kramer called. | ||
He wants his hairstyle back. | ||
He reminds me of the villain in Free Guy. | ||
If you've seen that movie. | ||
He reminds me of that guy. | ||
So, yeah, I mean... | ||
So we're back to discussing real issues, real concerns, and our big push is we got to get a big, beautiful bill passed, and it's not working. | ||
It is not working. | ||
All right. | ||
By the way, a huge volcano erupted in Italy. | ||
Italy's Mount Etna erupts, sending people running for safety as pyroclastic flow sweeps down mountain. | ||
And ladies and gentlemen, so much carbon was emitted. | ||
It's just unbelievable how much carbon was emitted here. | ||
And if you would have paid more money to stop climate change... | ||
You didn't pay enough money, and so the volcano blew. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
It's all your fault. | ||
It's all your fault, Trump. | ||
Of course, that's complete nonsense, and a volcano erupting like this will emit more CO2 into the atmosphere than you ever could if you tried. | ||
So, you know, there's that. | ||
But nobody's really talking about this volcano causing global warming. | ||
And the CO2 emissions. | ||
So I wonder why that is. | ||
Alright, what else do we have here before we sign off? | ||
Broadway. | ||
Is Broadway back? | ||
Broadway's 2024-2025 season was highest grossing on record. | ||
Are people getting out of their homes again and doing stuff old school style? | ||
I love Trump. | ||
Korean pop star bursts into pro-America rant. | ||
How about that? | ||
You also have all of these, like, cosplay events that go on in Asia. | ||
People showing up dressed as Trump, playing YMCA. | ||
It's a global phenomenon. | ||
Man doxxed and fired after covering the Kanye West song. | ||
you know the one. | ||
Was it because of the Heil Hitler thing or was it because of the... | ||
That does it for the InfoWars War Room. | ||
This show takes a 21-hour break. | ||
Harrison Smith on air tomorrow. | ||
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