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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, April 25th, 2025.
This is the InfoWars War Room.
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Well, you've got to...
Give it some credit here.
Two Democrat judges have been arrested for what it appears like is conspiring with illegal immigrants.
I really can't figure any other situation here.
Oh, I remember now.
Because Democrats, they're bleeding hearts.
They care so much.
You know, they love to invite and harbor these illegal immigrants into their house just out of the goodness of their heart.
Yeah, we see that everywhere.
No, actually, we don't.
But two judges, both involved with illegal immigrants arrested.
I'd like for this to be the start of something good.
And, of course, you already have.
All the Democrat Party members out today posting about how dangerous it is and the constitutional crisis and everything else.
No, Katenji Brown-Jackson is a constitutional crisis.
Hell, Amy Coney Barrett is a constitutional crisis.
Arresting corrupt judges is a necessity to save our constitutional republic.
And I look at this as a major test case for the Trump administration, which is...
Where do you go from here?
Do you lower your head and ram forward?
Or do you get back on your hind legs and say, oh, we don't want to go too far?
That is the big test.
Now, I've also got this stack of news.
It's unfortunate.
We see this every day.
Random violence and killings.
It's on New York City subways.
It's in the streets.
You've also got situations where illegal immigrants, they're not self-deporting, go figure, let in and released under the Biden administration.
And now they're raping more people, raping minors.
So Democrats facilitate rape.
And again, this is where the Trump administration needs to go next.
And I understand the dangers of holding a judge accountable, and you don't want to do this, holding a judge accountable for somebody they release that gets back on the streets and commits a violent crime.
So, considering that, I understand the dangers.
But this is a different deal.
This needs to be a RICO investigation with the open borders economy.
And anybody that allowed this illegal immigrant into the country, And then provided shelter or food or travel needs to be arrested for aiding and abetting in the rape of a minor.
That's how you can clean this system up, too.
So the opportunities for the Trump administration are all there.
It's just a matter if they want to take them or if they're going to be intimidated by the Democrats now screaming today about a constitutional crisis because a corrupt judge gets arrested.
As if they wouldn't arrest every single one of you if they could.
Oh yeah.
Then you've got the continued fracture inside the Democrat Party right now that's starting to get a little more serious, a little more public.
We were talking about that last month.
Now everybody's starting to catch on and they're starting to make some statements warning the Democrat establishment.
Warning the newcomers like, hey, you know, you better back off.
We're still in control here.
But then you see others breaking with the establishment, betting on the new left, if you will, that they're going to take over the Democrat Party.
So we're going to give you an update on all of that.
We have a bunch of video clips as well.
It's the last Friday of the month.
You know we take calls from veterans on the last Friday of the month, so we'll have a lot of veteran callers.
And then we've got Nick Fuentes in studio in the second hour.
And I've got some interesting subject material for him.
So we're going to have a good time on this Friday.
When we come back, we'll tell you all about these Democrat judges in handcuffs for conspiring with illegal immigrants.
Who could have seen it coming?
I wonder when the ignorant leftist That votes Democrat, promotes all the Democrat Party propaganda, you know, the whole charade.
I wonder when they will wake up and realize that they were basically just the foot soldiers in a criminal operation.
Do you think they'll ever realize it?
The judge situation, do you think that'll be a wake-up call?
The Tesla terrorist attacks, anything like that?
Do you think there'll ever be a wake-up call for these people?
And if it's not this judge situation, what will it be?
So you've got two of them now that have been arrested.
Two Democrat judges arrested is a good start.
And look, because it's worth mentioning this, because at the end of the day, saving the country is going to be up to the right.
You're not going to get it from the left.
You'll be lucky if you get anything good from the left.
So saving the country is going to be up to us on the right.
And we do have to consider the dangers and the fallout from things that we do.
But at the same time, that shouldn't stop us from doing things.
So I look at this situation with these judges and I say, two Democrat judges arrested is a good start.
And I mean that.
And I'm not going to sit here and get bullied and intimidated by people that are going to say, well, you know, this is dangerous and it's a constitutional crisis and we don't want this being used against us.
What planet do you live on?
What do you mean you don't want this used against us?
Have you been alive for the last eight years?
Constitutional crisis?
We didn't even have a border.
We didn't even have a country.
We gotta be careful with this trade stuff Trump's doing with these tariffs.
Careful with the trade stuff?
We've been getting bent over a barrel.
They didn't even bother to lube us up before they rammed us with trade.
Oh, you gotta be careful.
No, I don't.
I don't have to be careful at all.
Being careful is why we're in this position.
So, no, I am happy that finally...
These criminal elements of the Democrat Party, that's the constitutional crisis, are facing justice.
And this is just the beginning.
I mean, two judges?
It's hardly going to make a difference.
But here's the deal.
Judge Hannah Dugan arrested by FBI for allegedly helping undocumented immigrant evade arrest.
Judge Dugan was alleged to have helped...
Eduardo Flores Ruiz, she was arrested for helping him evade arrest, according to FBI Director Cash Patel, which,
strangely enough, he posted on social media and then deleted.
A Milwaukee County Circuit judge, Dugan, was her name.
In the post, the statement from Kash Patel, just now, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Yeah, a lot of Democrat corruption there.
Oh, yeah.
You want to know how Democrats win in Wisconsin?
See what they're up to in Milwaukee on Election Day.
Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, arrested on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing an immigration arrest operation last week.
We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse.
Eduardo Flores Ruiz allowing the subject, an illegal alien, to evade arrest.
Dugan was charged with two criminal counts of obstructing and impeding a proceeding.
For a department or agency of the United States and concealing an individual to prevent his discovery and arrest.
Where are all those Democrat mayors, by the way, that said, oh, I'll stand in the fray.
I'll get arrested to stop these deportations.
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Haven't seen any of that.
owen shroyer
Apparently this judge volunteered for that role.
Unwittingly, I'm sure.
She probably didn't expect to get arrested.
Maybe caught, but not arrested.
Because Democrats flout the law all the time.
You know, and I think about it now.
This is a major sea change.
You do realize the Democrats act illegally in total confidence because they never, ever face justice.
Ever.
I can think of like one time, and you'll have like smaller Democrat foot soldiers that get caught doing election fraud and things like that.
Voter fraud, election fraud.
You've got like smaller foot soldiers that might go down.
But you don't have like real establishment type elected Democrats go down.
You had Bob Menendez.
They covered that whole story up.
If Menendez was a Republican, it'd be a top story.
Most people don't know about Menendez.
They're making a bigger deal out of the George Santos story.
And I think ultimately George Santos is going to get a bigger punishment than Menendez.
For much less.
Because he's a Republican.
So that's also why this is a necessity.
The mindset of the Democrats is break the law until they stop us from breaking the law.
And no one ever stops them from breaking the law.
Most of the time even they're foot soldiers.
When they go out and commit acts of violence and terrorism, how often do they face justice?
Usually they get a slap on the wrist.
Release back onto the streets.
No big deal.
And then word spreads.
Don't worry.
You might spend a night in jail and charges will be dropped.
And the Democrat Party will fund your legal defense.
They're used to it.
Now, I don't know if arresting...
One judge will change that mindset.
I don't know if arresting two judges will change that mindset, but I don't know, man.
You start to perp walk maybe ten Democrat judges?
unidentified
Hmm.
owen shroyer
All of a sudden, they might think differently.
I would find a way.
The Republicans could impeach all these judges that are blocking the Trump administration, but the Republican Party is still searching with both hands for their balls.
Still unable to find them.
We hope someday they can find them.
Maybe grow a pair and find them.
So we won't be impeaching them, apparently.
It wasn't just Dugan, though.
Oh, but by the way, here's Dugan.
I mean, she's real in the tank with the Democrat Party propaganda.
She loved wearing the face mask.
She was a big face masker.
Big, big Ukraine supporter, too.
So she was just all in.
So probably brainwashed herself.
But think about that.
You've got these brainwashed liberals that are serving on the bench.
And so now you understand why they're activists.
Now you understand why they're so dangerous.
Now you understand why, when you get into a courtroom with one of these Democrat judges, you don't have a chance.
You don't have a chance.
Especially if you're a conservative.
If you're a white male, you don't have a chance.
Because they're Democrat Party activists and they believe the propaganda that you're the bad guy.
So it really doesn't even matter.
The case, the evidence, discovery, none of that even matters.
They already judge you.
You're already the bad guy and now they have the power to do away with you.
That's why they're so dangerous.
Judge number two.
Ex-New Mexico judge and wife arrested for allegedly harboring illegal Tren de Aragua member.
Agents arrested former Dona Ana County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano and his wife Nancy Kano at their home yesterday.
The two faced charges of evidence tampering amid allegations they harbored Christian Ortega Lopez.
An alleged illegal alien who is also believed to be a member of Venezuela's notorious Tren de Aragua gang.
Which, of course, you're told doesn't exist.
Kristi Noem, in a statement, said, Under President Trump, we have arrested over 150,000 illegal aliens, including more than 600 members of the vicious Tren de Aragua gang.
If you are here illegally and break the law, we will hunt you down, arrest you, and lock you up.
That's a promise.
It's a promise.
FBI arrests former New Mexico judge and wife, harboring Trinidad de Aragua member.
That's crazy.
Now, what are we thinking here?
All right.
Aside from the raw politics of this, aside from the surface-level coverage of this, You can't help but wonder how you end up in this situation.
What is the deal?
What is the deal with these Democrats protecting illegal immigrant criminals and gang members?
Is there something more to it?
Is the Elbrega-Garcia situation the keyhole into figuring out what this is all about?
You can't help but wonder.
Are the Democrats, are these?
Judges and former judges and Democrats, are they involved in the crimes?
Are they involved in the gang activity?
Are they involved in the drug trafficking, the human trafficking?
Are they involved in it?
That is a totally fair question.
In fact, you'd be dumb not to ask that question.
And maybe we get more from the Abrego Garcia situation and maybe we get an answer as to why.
The Biden administration wanted him released on human trafficking charges.
No, I think it's a totally fair question.
Some might even assume it.
Now here's Pam Bondi quickly at her day job on Fox News breaking down what happened with these arrests in clip seven.
pam bondi
And to set the stage for you and Sandra, this was truly horrific.
This guy was in court being prosecuted by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery.
He had beat up.
Two people, a guy and a girl, beat the guy, hit the guy 30 times, knocked him to the ground, choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both had to go to the hospital.
And John, you know, it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate.
They wanted to cooperate.
They were sitting in the courtroom with the state prosecutor.
The judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy because he had been deported in 2013, came back in our country, commits these crimes, charged with committing these crimes, victims in court.
Judge finds out.
She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk to the chief judge.
She comes back in the courtroom.
You're not going to believe this.
Takes the defendant and the defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of private exit and tells them to leave.
While a state prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
owen shroyer
Now, we've got more from Pam Bondi.
I won't take this opportunity to do any more Pam Bondi bashing.
But it's good to see her back at her day job at Fox News.
Glad she was able to do that.
I'm certain she couldn't make a statement like that from her desk.
But I guess she can't even find her desk.
It's so full of criminal referrals and Epstein files.
She doesn't even know where it is anymore.
She can't even get there.
Now, that's not the only thing that Bondi was reporting on here.
As things get even crazier.
With not just this situation, but the general situation with all the illegal immigrants.
I believe it's the clip ready, guys?
Yeah, here's Bondi part two.
sandra smith
I mean, when you look at the associations with this violent Venezuelan gang, Trente Aragua, and this person that they harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing, we were told, tattoos.
There was evidence through voice messages and text messages of his association to TDA.
So what charges will Cano and his wife face, if any?
pam bondi
So Judge Cano, soon to be former Judge Cano, his charges were just unsealed.
He's charged with obstruction.
He is charged.
He admitted post-Miranda.
He took one of the TDA members' cell phones himself, took it, beat it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it to protect him.
The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.
Sandra, not only that, this TDA He was a PDA member, and he had on a necklace that said "kill," something about death.
He had tattoos all over him.
He also had on his cell phone...
Pictures of two decapitated victims.
Two victims.
Decapitated, gruesome photos.
And he was sending them out.
And whoever he was sending them to was sending back saying, hey, you need to be careful.
You shouldn't be sending these.
You shouldn't be texting these photos out.
Not only that, the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that belonged to their daughter.
That's what they're charged with.
In the criminal report affidavit, he goes to a shooting range with these assault rifles, with a suppressor, with other known TDA members, and they're shooting.
This is the last person that we want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them.
owen shroyer
Well, I really look forward to the Democrats coming out against guns, knowing that Democrat judges were facilitating.
Guns to illegal immigrants and even had guns themselves.
Certainly the Democrats are going to be upset about that part, right?
The suppression and everything, right?
I mean, because they're such principled liberals on the gun issue.
Yeah?
No?
Okay.
You know, I'll say this about Pam Bondi or the potential of Pam Bondi.
She has the potential to be...
She's legendary status as far as an attorney general is concerned.
She does.
If she wants it.
If she wants to just be a Fox News host, then she can choose that path as well.
But let's talk about the grim truth here.
The open border economy is not just about people illegally crossing into our country and then the welfare state benefits and the Democrats trying to...
Flip elections.
That goes on too.
But that's kind of just political scum.
No, the open border economy includes massive drug trafficking and massive human trafficking.
How often do we get major arrests on that?
Now, they have done major drug busts.
There have been a couple major drug busts, and ICE has been pretty good about that.
But what about the massive human trafficking busts?
You know that's going on.
And how can you not think that these Democrat judges are involved in some level?
Why else would they be involved in their personal lives?
I can't figure it out.
Why else would they release in the Biden administration call for the release of Abrego Garcia?
So if you're Pam Bondi and you really want to make a name for yourself as Attorney General, that's where you go.
You go on the human trafficking angle.
And you go find all those involved in it.
And if it just happens to be Democrat judges, then so be it.
So she has that opportunity.
And it's so rampant with 10, 15, 20 million people coming in under Joe Biden.
Even if it's just 1%.
Just half a percent involved in these activities.
You've got thousands of people out there.
So I don't know if this is breadcrumbs leading to something bigger.
I don't know.
But these are not isolated incidents, and I highly doubt these are coincidences either.
Here's another example.
Mexican illegal immigrant released under Biden, sexually battered boy while playing hide-and-seek.
Listen to this report out of Florida in clip six.
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Samuel entered the United States from Mexico back in August of 21, and he was shipped back to Mexico.
He illegally entered again sometime in early 2022, where he fled from Texas authorities, and a warrant was issued for his arrest.
He was located in Sarasota, Florida in July of 2024, but because of the Biden-Harris catch-and-release policies, He was released back into our community.
So now let's fast forward to April 13th, 2025, Charlotte County, Florida.
This individual befriended a 13-year-old and an 8-year-old and decided to play a game of hide-and-seek.
While in the woods with these two, he sexually battered a 13-year-old child, both orally and anally.
This subject was later located and arrested by Charlotte County deputies where he admitted to his crime.
owen shroyer
So I'd like to know, what is stopping you, if you're Pam Bondi, what is stopping you looking at this like a RICO case and saying, okay...
We're going to look at each one of these cases.
We're going to look at this case.
Let's take this case specifically.
We're going to look at this case where young boys got sexually abused by an illegal immigrant.
And we're going to arrest all parties, all parties involved with allowing him into the country and facilitating his needs while in the country.
Yeah, you're right.
That goes right up to the Biden administration.
Absolutely, 100% it does.
You tell me, I would love to hear the logical, legal argument, how that's not aiding and abetting in a crime.
When you release a criminal, a known criminal, into the streets, and then you provide him shelter?
You provide him food and water?
You provide him travel?
And then he goes out and commits a violent crime against a minor?
Tell me how that's not aiding and abetting in a crime.
I want to hear it.
I want to hear the legal excuse.
There's your angle.
And guess what?
You don't have to do that a million times.
You probably don't even have to do it a thousand times, even though it might be necessary to do it a thousand times.
Just...
Pick the cases that got the most public attention if you want to go about it like that.
That's how politics works.
Take the Rachel Moran case.
Take the Lake and Riley case.
Take this case with the young boys getting abused.
And track and trace every activity these illegal immigrants took.
How they got into the country.
Whose policy allowed them to get released and roam the country freely.
Who was responsible for...
Providing them with any shelter or food or travel and then charge them with aiding and abetting in sexual abuse of a minor.
You do that a hundred times?
Guess what?
They're not going to do it anymore.
These freak Democrats are no longer going to be providing safe haven for illegal immigrants anymore.
It's really that simple, but you gotta put fear into them.
They don't have any fear.
They break the law every day with no fear.
Alright, we got a couple developments here in the break.
Pete Hegseth continues to do great work.
I don't remember where I had his grade at 50 days.
I think I had him at a B+.
He's working his way into A-plus territory now.
Being against expanding a war in the Middle East or striking Iran.
That was a big boost.
Then this today.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth Cleanshouse fires all Pentagon advisory committees, including seat held by Obama crony Susan Rice.
Well, you would ask, why was Susan Rice even there?
This is amazing.
My mind goes two ways analyzing this.
One is, are they smoking out the rats and they've smoked them out now and they're all being relieved of duty?
Or is this just organic developments and Hegseth is just reacting in a proper manner?
I would lean towards it's organic and Hegseth is going with his gut, going with his instinct and doing the right thing getting rid of these people.
But also, when you go back and you look at the situation where the Pentagon unnamed officials, to me totally illegal, they don't even know the three men that they walked out, they don't even know what they were accused of.
They just say, oh, it was a leak probe.
So they get goose-stepped out of their offices like they're in a criminal investigation or they're suspects in a criminal operation.
But nobody tells them.
They just said, oh, part of a criminal probe, you're...
Bye.
It's like, what?
Okay, well, who's accusing me of leaking?
Unknown Pentagon official.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
No, you have the right to know your accuser.
You can't just be walked out and they just say, yeah, you're part of some criminal probe, so you're out.
Totally illegal.
unidentified
Well...
owen shroyer
Then you had the story with Casper yesterday being moved, and you wonder, was Casper involved in this stuff?
Did Hegseth find out Casper was involved?
And he said, I want you out of here?
Didn't really appear that way on the surface, but you wonder.
And then with this today, so he's got his advisors, he's got the guys that he trusts, the Pentagon comes and walks them out of their office and says, oh, criminal leak probe.
Who, they don't know.
What, they don't know.
But we know that they're against more wars in the Middle East.
We know that they were against striking Iran.
So, oh, here comes the military-industrial complex.
Or here comes Israeli lobby-controlled assets in D.C. Unnamed Pentagon officials.
And they say, we got to get rid of these three advisors that are in Pete Hegseth's ear and have access to Hegseth because they just stopped the strike on Iran, which is one of the biggest focuses right now of the military-industrial complex and,
of course, of Netanyahu.
So anybody that's getting in the way of that has to go.
And, of course, Hegseth is one of them.
But they can't separate Hegseth from Trump.
They couldn't stop Hegseth from getting through the confirmation process.
And Hegseth is clearly not deterred.
If anything, this has put fuel in his tank.
So now this is...
And I remember at first, and I don't mean to be rude to people, but they just got it wrong.
And that's fine.
It's okay to be wrong.
I don't think they were lying, but...
When they removed those three advisors that were Hegseth's top aides, they said, look, they're draining the swamp.
This is great.
Which I didn't believe that was the case for one second, but people kind of jumped on that and said, this is the case.
And I believe that was totally inaccurate, and I think I will be vindicated of that if I haven't been already.
This is draining the swamp right here.
And the Pentagon is like the swamp of the swamp.
It's like you have the swamp and then you get to the middle of it and you've got the Pentagon.
So I don't know if this was a smoke out the rats operation that has now found the rats and they've been fired.
Or if it just all happened organically and Hegseth is just going with his instincts, going with his gut, doing the right thing.
But the result is the same.
So now you've got Rice and the rest of them out at the Pentagon.
You could probably just close the Pentagon, but...
That's a separate issue.
Now, I do wonder...
By the way, they have the names of all of these officials on the Gateway Pundit's story.
Now, I wonder if those advisors are going to be brought back.
And if that's the case, that will be a telltale sign of, okay, we smoked out the rats.
And now the good guys that don't want another war, we're bringing them back.
And that should be who gets promoted.
I look at this story.
Hegseth is now doing some of the best work in D.C. I don't know how else to put this, folks.
Hegseth has just leapfrogged multiple members of the Trump administration with this move.
And he already had a big bounce up.
When he was against the Iran strikes, this is like he has just catapulted now.
This is a man of action.
And you know what?
Great for Donald Trump, too, because they tried to get Trump to say bad things about Hegseth and he wouldn't do it.
And then the White House came up and affirmatively said, no, we stand with Hegseth.
So then that gave Hegseth probably a little confidence.
And then he did the right thing.
I mean, folks, we should be getting rid not just of the Obama holdovers.
Of course the Obama holdovers should be gone.
Why are they still around?
What are these swamp creatures doing here gathering moss in the swamp?
So, of course, that should have been a no-doubter.
But, yeah, you know what?
You should also be getting rid of people that are pro-war.
It's a disease in Washington, D.C., folks.
And it's actually the most cowardly people you've ever met.
The biggest cowards you'll ever meet are people that will send someone else's kids to die.
Those are the biggest cowards you will ever meet.
And they're all over Washington, D.C. And they're all over the Pentagon.
And Hegseth just took a lot of them out.
You know why?
Because Hegseth has been there.
And Hegseth has friends that have been there.
He's probably lost friends that have been there.
And he knows the price.
And Trump, of course, was against those wars during the Bush years anyway.
So it's not like it's, I mean, it's perfectly in line with Trump's long-term foreign policy.
And I don't get too reactionary to things Trump does in the short term because a lot of that is just Trump acting as president, strategically negotiating.
That's just how he, you know, it's the art of the deal.
So now Hegseth draining the swamp of the pro-war, deep state Obama holdover crooks is one of the best moves I've seen out of this Trump administration.
First, he stopped striking Iran.
Now he's actually draining the swamp.
Beautiful work, Pete Hegseth.
Fantastic job.
A-plus, golden star, MVP of the week.
Making us proud.
And then he made this statement earlier today in clip five.
pete hegseth
We're back with more reforms here at DOD.
And this one is one of the most important ones we've done.
The official title is...
Restoring good order and discipline through balanced accountability.
A little wordy, but over the target.
The real title, that I call it, the no more walking on eggshells policy.
You see, too often at the Defense Department, there are complaints made for certain reasons that can't be verified that end people's career, either through EO or the IG.
We need to reform that process completely so commanders can be commanders.
Let me explain it a little bit more.
So the DOD has equal opportunity programs for service members and civilians to report discrimination and harassment.
That's a good thing.
But what's not good is when these programs are weaponized.
Some individuals use these programs in bad faith to retaliate against superiors or peers.
I hear it all the time.
Say you receive a bad evaluation.
Well, file a military EO complaint.
It's nonsense, and we want to fix that.
That's why today I'm signing a memo entitled, as I said, Restoring Good Order and Discipline Through Balanced Accountability.
It directs a comprehensive review of equal opportunity programs to ensure prompt and impartial investigations, prompt and impartial, fair treatment to all parties involved, and timely, timely and appropriate resolution of allegations of discrimination.
To make tough decisions, enforce standards, and restore good order and discipline.
Otherwise known as no more walking on eggshells.
This is an important one.
Proud to sign it.
owen shroyer
Keep it up, Pete.
And it looks like the more they attack him, the better he gets.
unidentified
*laughter*
owen shroyer
You know, what movie is that from, guys?
When, I think it was, it might have been The Dark Knight with Harvey Dent.
I think it was, and Police Commissioner Gordon says, you let the criminals get away.
And he says, well, the good thing about criminals is they keep breaking the law and we'll get another chance.
I mean, these swamp creatures aren't going to stop swamp creatureing.
The Democrats aren't going to stop coming after.
Pete Hegseth.
Beautiful.
Just beautiful.
Now, back to that Judge Dugan situation.
Guys, see if you can help me out here on a search.
Because you printed me the whole thing here.
And I'm kind of pouring through it.
But, yeah, here we go.
So she was interviewed by the Milwaukee Independent.
That's where the story is from.
Some years ago.
Did you know?
That Judge Dugan was working with Catholic charities?
unidentified
Hmm.
owen shroyer
Geez.
Any tinfoil around here?
unidentified
Anybody got some tinfoil I can put on my head?
owen shroyer
So, Judge Dugan arrested for helping an illegal immigrant evade arrest.
She's also involved in Catholic charities.
That have been one of the main sponsors and organizers of the open border economy and invasion of our country.
I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
unidentified
Right?
owen shroyer
She's just doing this out of her bleeding heart liberalism.
unidentified
Hmm? and
owen shroyer
Yeah, I'm sure the Catholic charities facilitating the invasion and making millions of dollars on the open border economy and bringing in violent criminals and gangbangers and drug and human traffickers and this judge involved with all of that and then trying to stop a criminal alien from being arrested.
I'm sure that's just all a coincidence.
You know, look, maybe somebody needs to tell this to Pam Bondi, because aside from however you feel about her as the Attorney General, she really is just a very kind person.
I did meet her some years ago, ironically enough, at Fox News Studios.
And she is just a very kind and maybe you might even say unassuming person.
Guys, what's the deal with it?
Is that a man?
Alright, I'm not even going to go there.
It's a Friday.
I can't deal with it at this point.
Check the Adam's apple.
No, Pam Bondi is just a really nice person and unassuming.
And so somebody probably should tell Pam Bondi, like, hey, listen.
You do realize that this is a giant human trafficking operation at the southern border, and all these NGOs are involved, wittingly or unwittingly, they're facilitating it.
Like, you do realize that.
You do realize that now you have a connection with the judge that just got arrested, and the Catholic Charities facilitating the invasion.
I mean, folks, the stuff that we saw...
When we were down there in 2021 and 2022 was mind-blowing.
Mind-blowing stuff.
Explain to me how night after night after night after night we would sit in McAllen and watch hundreds of pregnant women and children getting off a bus and going into Catholic charity buildings.
Explain that to me.
Not to mention some of the other weird stuff that we saw that I don't even want to talk about.
Because I'd have to be getting a little too conspiratorial.
But I mean, you know, let's just say if I was an FBI agent and I was looking for known signs and symbols of human trafficking, they were everywhere.
Let's put it like that.
But you tell me.
You tell me why in four years under Joe Biden, probably 10,000?
20,000?
What do you think the number is?
Pregnant women and children were brought into this country.
You tell me why Catholic Charities is involved in that human trafficking.
You tell me why this judge you just arrested is directly tied in to Catholic Charities.
You tell me, oh, it's all innocent.
Pam Bondi, I am telling you right now, you are two, maybe three clicks away from discovering the biggest human trafficking operation this country has ever seen and saving potentially thousands of children from being raped.
I'm telling you right now.
And all of these cases, Abrego Garcia and these two judges you just arrested, I guarantee you, you start going down this rabbit trail here, you're going to find something that's going to lead you to the next level.
If you choose to take that journey.
So this is a major opportunity for Pam Bondi to do what she was hired to do, but more than just that, to do what's right and to save the children that are being trafficked and to arrest the traffickers.
And yeah, don't be surprised if you discover some other Democrats along the way.
You'll probably find some Republicans too.
I mean, let's be fair.
They're involved in it.
Oh, yeah.
You've got it.
You've got the scent.
You've got the opening.
Oh, yeah.
Why do you think the Democrats are so desperate to talk to Abrego Garcia?
Why do you think they wanted to release him when he got pulled over in the Biden administration?
Why do you think they're so desperate to bring him back?
Why do you think these judges are harboring them?
Do you really think it's all a coincidence?
unidentified
Do you really think it's all out of the goodness of their hearts?
owen shroyer
Tell me you're not that naive.
You've got the scent, Pam.
You've got it.
I hope somebody is encouraging her.
Follow the scent.
Connect the dots.
Save the children.
You need to go after all of these groups.
All of them.
It'll be the biggest RICO case of all time, and you'll be doing the right thing.
Save the children.
Stop the invasion.
Arrest the traffickers.
It's all there.
It's all right there, should you take the challenge.
But if not, then you'll continue to be a letdown as the Attorney General, and that'll be your legacy.
So, it's your legacy.
It's not mine.
But I hope somebody's encouraging her.
Meanwhile, trans inmate who killed Baby blames Trump administration for alleged assaults in prison.
First of all, it's not too safe.
There aren't too many prisons where you can go.
unidentified
As a gay man and not get beat up.
owen shroyer
There are even less prisons where you can go as a child molester and not get beat up.
That's actually very much a part of the prison culture.
Now, you could be a gay man and just keep to yourself and not bother anybody and you'll probably be fine.
But if you're like...
In a lot of these prisons, you're flamboyant or you go trans and you try to find yourself a boyfriend in there, there's going to be gangs that are coming for you.
Oh, but see, it's Trump's fault!
No, it's well known they will put child molesters in solitary for their own protection.
They do the same thing for trans inmates.
Because they know there are gangs, whether it's initiation or policy, where if you see a trans person, you have to beat them.
If you see a child molester, you have to beat them.
But see, they'll use this and they'll say, oh, Trump!
Look at Trump!
He's causing transviolence in the prisons.
Oh, you're standing up for the baby killer now.
Gotcha.
Thank you.
So glad.
They can't help themselves.
They can't even...
Help themselves.
They want boys competing against girls.
They love it so much.
Democrats fail to join Republicans in protecting girls' sports.
This is just ludicrous.
Here was the vote.
Here was the vote in Minnesota.
So your little girl in Minnesota is going to get run over by a man, run over by a boy.
All of her dreams in athletics crushed.
unidentified
Clip 9. There are real problems in girls and women's sports.
Trans kids playing isn't one of them, so I urge a no vote.
owen shroyer
Oh.
unidentified
And Senator Latt's votes no.
Yes.
pam bondi
The secretary will close the roll.
There have been 31 eyes and 34 names.
owen shroyer
They say, oh, it's just not a problem.
Oh, it's just not a problem because we say it's not a problem.
So, oh, we have a wide open board.
No, no, no, we don't have wide open board.
That's not a problem.
That's not a real thing.
Hey, we got boys taking girls' spots on these sports teams and then a lot of these girls are getting injured.
No, no, no, that's not a problem.
That's not a problem.
They just say it's not a problem.
So, oh, you just say it's not a problem.
Hey, here's the girl who she had her skull bashed in on the volleyball court.
Never seen that before.
But a boy was playing and smashed her skull in with a ball.
unidentified
No, no, that's not happening.
owen shroyer
It's not happening!
Oh, here's 20 illegal immigrants that killed 20 Americans.
No!
Americans commit more crimes than illegal immigrants!
No! No!
unidentified
No! No!
owen shroyer
It's just not a problem.
Don't you see?
They just say, oh, it's just not a problem.
So we're just, you know, we just say it's not a problem, so therefore it's not a problem.
And then all the violence.
New York City subway stabbing.
Man killed on southbound 5 train, lower Manhattan.
NYPD searching for suspect.
Yeah, he's got a killer on the loose.
Killers on the loose in Austin.
Killers on the loose in New York City.
There's killers on the loose.
Hey, but defund the police.
You know?
They're the bad guys.
Remember that big New Jersey fire that just happened?
And they said, climate change!
Biggest New Jersey fire!
It's climate change!
We're dying from climate change!
Wrong!
Weartown man charged with arson, accused of setting bonfire which erupted into the New Jersey wildfire.
Oh!
So that wildfire you blamed on climate change was just arson.
Gotcha.
Just like all the others.
But see, that's what they do.
And this is why they need the censorship so badly.
When the news breaks, they just immediately say, oh, wildfire, oh, climate change.
It's just like, that's the transition.
It's like, okay, here's the wildfire, and then it's all on climate change.
And then a week or two or a month later, they arrest the guy that caused it for arson, and then they never touch it.
And they never mention it.
Because they gotta have their climate change so that they can make you a slave.
Alright, Nick Fuentes coming up in six minutes.
Alright, we discovered Nick Fuentes in a room across the studio here, and he was actually buried in frogs.
I don't know where...
I think Alex dumped a whole truckload of these frogs on him right here.
And unwittingly, now Fuentes is the new voice of the Infowars frog.
He didn't realize that's actually what he was here for.
He might talk a little politics, maybe some geopolitics, but really we just brought him in here to be the new face of the stuffed frog at thealexjonesstore.com, which now, because he's the new face, it's selling out even faster.
So you better hurry up to thealexjonesstore.com and get it before it's gone.
And if you get two...
Well, then Alex showed you what you can do with those today, if you saw that, if you get two of them.
Maybe not for kids, or maybe four kids, I don't know.
Probably better than the lectures they're going to get in their liberal classroom, but that's another story.
We also have the limited edition silver coin with the InfoWars box logo.
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Alright.
Nick Fuentes in studio.
He was on the Alex...
How long were you?
You were on two hours today, weren't you?
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Two hours.
owen shroyer
Wow.
Two hours.
I can't believe...
What about your show?
What are you going to do?
You're leaving your audience...
High and dry right now.
nick fuentes
Leaving them out to dry, yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
How will they recover?
nick fuentes
I don't know.
They're going to be complaining.
They're not happy that I missed the show.
But they're getting double duty.
They're getting Alex, they're getting Owen.
owen shroyer
Yeah, so we've got to direct them over here.
I've got a list of things that I do want to talk to you about.
We'll get to that coming up.
Do you think...
That I'm onto something with these judges and the Abrego-Garcia thing, I think it leads to a larger criminal operation, and I think the Democrats are panicked about it.
nick fuentes
I think you might be right.
I mean, who benefits from keeping the illegals here?
It's the cartels, transnational organizations.
I mean, the idea that the Democrats don't know about that, that they're naive or ignorant, I don't think anyone would believe that.
So I think there's a very good chance that that's the case, that the Democrats are a part of it as an institution, sure.
owen shroyer
Yeah, this judge is in the neighboring city, Milwaukee, where you live.
I mean, obviously Chicago has its problems.
Milwaukee's probably worse.
nick fuentes
No, I think Chicago's worse.
owen shroyer
You think the Democrat corruption in Chicago's worse than Milwaukee?
nick fuentes
Oh, certainly.
I mean, it's probably bad in both, but Chicago is legendary.
Legendary.
I mean, they rigged this election for mayor, even just recently.
owen shroyer
I guess that's why I look at Milwaukee more, because they can steal a presidential election with Milwaukee.
They've already got Illinois locked up, seemingly.
So it's kind of like, I don't know, down here, when you're living there, I guess you feel it more.
But I watch how they steal elections in Milwaukee.
I mean, that's how they steal Wisconsin.
unidentified
Right.
nick fuentes
Well, oh, yeah, I wasn't even thinking, like, national politics.
Of course, because Wisconsin's a swing state.
There's definitely a lot of funny games they play.
But, I mean, Chicago, the machine politics there, it's unbelievable.
But, I mean, that's that whole area.
It's like that in Detroit.
It's like that everywhere.
owen shroyer
Well, it really is such a shame.
I mean, Chicago is one of the great American cities.
And it hasn't, like, you can actually go to Chicago, avoid the bad areas, and not really feel threatened.
Like, you go to New York, anywhere you can get stabbed.
Anywhere, anytime.
But Chicago, there's areas where you can go and still enjoy it.
It's good.
Good for tourism.
But yeah, the Democrats, it's a shame how they've taken a stranglehold.
nick fuentes
Used to be the case.
It's not even like that anymore.
You used to be able to say that about Chicago.
Really?
Oh yeah, it's unbelievable.
Ever since George Floyd.
Ever since George Floyd, they've broken the containment.
owen shroyer
Well, they did put that illegal immigrant camp right outside of the Bean.
And that famous tourist area, is that still going on?
nick fuentes
No, I don't think so.
owen shroyer
Well, that's good that we got that out.
All right, we're going to talk about the stuff I want to talk about with Nick, though, on the other side of this.
We're going to have a little fun.
The InfoWars War Room rolls on.
All right, I'm going to lead here with Nick Fuentes in studio with some political talk, and then I got some fun stuff.
We'll have a good laugh over at the bottom of the hour.
I want to lead with this.
There's an undeniable reality happening right now, and it's a major pendulum shift from what we've seen.
And that is 20-year-olds, young voters, are more conservative than they've ever been.
This is a demographic that the liberals have owned for years, for decades even.
And there's a major shift there.
What do you think that's all about?
And does it have staying power?
nick fuentes
It's difficult to say.
I think that a lot of it has to do structurally with how we're living in the Trump era.
You know, because 10 years ago, the young men were liberal.
You know, when I was growing up, when I was in high school, the hip, cool thing to be was to be woke, to be a Redditor.
Science is real.
Climate change is real.
Black Lives Matter.
Gay marriage is okay.
That's just how it was.
And that's because the background of it was the backlash against Obama.
The tone was said by Jon Stewart, Hollywood.
And so because of the backlash to the recession, the Iraq War, Bush.
That whole era was left.
It was Obama.
I think then with Trump in 16, you just have the opposite effect.
We have our own cultural figures.
It's Alex Jones.
It's Andrew Tate.
It's Joe Rogan, who are decidedly more libertarian or right wing.
And so I think it just stopped being cool to be left wing.
It started being cool to be right wing.
It started being cool to be an edgelord instead of like a woke scold.
And so I think it does have staying power as long as...
Trump is there as long as, you know, some of these people are able to hang on there on social media.
A big part of it was that social media did relax a little bit there for a few years on TikTok, with Elon taking over Twitter.
I don't think that you would have the same effect if Andrew Tate didn't blow up and become the most famous person in the world in 22 on TikTok.
I don't think it would have the same effect if you didn't have people on TikTok and then Twitter boosting so-called conspiracy theories, talking about the things you're not supposed to talk about.
So as long as there's no censorship, as long as there's not some kind of crazy backlash against Trump in the next few years, no war, no major recession, I think it's here to stay.
I think it's, you know...
Gen Z young men are firmly right wing.
owen shroyer
Well, you might have a problem because I think Vance is now the heir apparent.
It looks like Vance is the heir apparent.
You know, it's funny.
Trump puts out the Trump 2028 hats as a joke and then the liberals just dive.
I mean, literally, they dive into the shallow end, you know, two feet with their heads down.
It's hilarious.
And then they're dazed and confused.
So it totally works with them.
But you're not a fan of Vance.
I think Vance will relate to that generation, though.
You might not be a fan of him, but do you agree or disagree that he would be good to keep that generation conservative?
nick fuentes
I don't think he'll relate.
I think that that's fake.
Everybody's putting this message out there.
They say, oh, he's listening to Creed.
He's drinking COVID.
owen shroyer
Wait, is he not?
Is that fake news?
nick fuentes
That's totally fake news.
owen shroyer
Don't lie to me about Creed.
nick fuentes
No, he doesn't like Creed.
He's not a real Creed fan.
owen shroyer
You don't know that.
nick fuentes
His eyes are closed.
owen shroyer
He's lower?
nick fuentes
Oh yeah.
No, he's a faker.
Because 10 years ago he was supporting Obama.
That's what I'm talking about.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but people can change.
nick fuentes
I think they can, but we have to evaluate if they really do.
owen shroyer
But what I'm saying is, aside from whatever you think about him, I'm just saying, because most people aren't that deep into politics, right?
They're just looking at the surface.
I just think surface level, whether it's Whether it is AstroTurf or not, the presentation of J.D. Vance, to me, is very relatable.
nick fuentes
I think that people can see through it.
I think that there's an effort to make people think that.
Like, that's a perception that they're cultivating.
The question is when he becomes a truly national figure, if he runs for president.
You know, because he's pretty popular as vice president, actually.
owen shroyer
I've liked what he's done as vice president.
nick fuentes
Among people like yourself, me, like our base, let's say, Trump's base, I think people like him.
But when he's put in the spotlight, is it going to be like a Ron DeSantis effect?
Because they said this about DeSantis, that he's, Florida's where woke goes to die.
He's more conservative than Trump.
There was an effort to make him seem that way.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but don't you think with DeSantis, he just took bad advice.
He just got bad advice to run against Trump, and he went with it.
nick fuentes
I think he's a goober.
I think that even if Trump wasn't running...
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, to make that mistake is kind of goober-ish.
nick fuentes
But he's just like...
He's a klutz.
He wasn't connecting even without Trump.
You know, there was a lot of hype around him because of the electoral politics, like he flipped Florida and he did okay during the pandemic.
But then when they actually put him front and center, it was a flop.
He totally choked.
I think, Vance, you're going to see the same thing where they're cultivating this perception, oh, he's this nationalist, he's a national populist or something.
And his tweets...
owen shroyer
Come on, guys.
nick fuentes
What?
owen shroyer
They got him up there with a bunch of Hebrews.
nick fuentes
There you go.
Thank you.
Thank you to the production team for...
owen shroyer
They couldn't help it.
nick fuentes
Case in point.
owen shroyer
Where's your hat?
nick fuentes
They got little hats under the big hats.
So that's the thing.
I think they're grooming him to be Trump's replacement.
That's the meme they want people to think.
This is it.
He's running in 28. Get in line.
Get excited.
That's the offering.
I don't think he's going to connect.
I think he's a goof.
owen shroyer
Trump himself denied that that's Vance's goal.
Vance hasn't really talked about it.
That's kind of a mystery.
But I want to get back to what you were saying about college.
Hold on.
unidentified
Hold on.
owen shroyer
Hold on a second.
alex jones
I just got a call from Tel Aviv.
It's got the call.
Stop talking about Israel right now.
owen shroyer
Oh, it was straight out of Tel Aviv, huh?
alex jones
Yeah, Benjamin Yellen, my boss.
owen shroyer
Are you sure it wasn't Jerusalem?
alex jones
Stop right now.
unidentified
Or Washington, D.C. I'm ordering you.
owen shroyer
Or Trump, Gaza International.
alex jones
I'm in there every day telling Owen.
I have to restrain him.
owen shroyer
Are you going to take the trip, Alex?
You want to go touch the wall?
alex jones
I would love to go to Egypt.
I'd love to go to Israel.
owen shroyer
I could arrange that for you.
alex jones
I want to go see the Great Wall of China.
I'm going to work with Xi Jinping.
Yeah, I would love to go see Golgotha where Christ was crucified.
I would love to do all that.
owen shroyer
Would you kiss the wall?
nick fuentes
Like Vance?
alex jones
You know, probably, yeah, I mean, to troll people, yeah.
unidentified
That'd be a good troll.
nick fuentes
That'd be a pretty good troll.
owen shroyer
I would do the opposite thing.
I would refuse to touch the wall to troll people.
alex jones
No, listen, that's a, that's a, Titus destroyed that in 70 AD.
So, you can't hate those people.
And, you know, we say we're not Judeo-Christian.
I know that.
We are Christian.
But the point is, it does, Abraham, religion, all that.
We can't, you even hate the Jews of 2,000 years ago.
My point is, Netanyahu...
owen shroyer
Are we having a history discussion now?
Do we have to do this now?
alex jones
It's because we disagree with what's the bad stuff Israel does.
We don't have to hate people.
What's wrong with the solidarity?
You know J.D. Vance also goes to the Catholic Church.
He's Catholic.
You go say hi to the Pope or whatever.
But my point is, you think somebody's bad if they go do this?
nick fuentes
Well, Vance visits the Pope.
What happens?
Pope dies.
alex jones
Oh, you think he killed him?
nick fuentes
He visits India.
Nuclear war is about to break out.
He dropped the trophy.
He broke the trophy.
alex jones
Is he the Antichrist?
owen shroyer
Isn't it funny, though, how nobody's talking about that Pakistan-India situation?
It's like there was a huge shootout at the border.
They didn't even talk about it.
alex jones
They're threatening nuclear war with each other.
owen shroyer
They've been doing that for years, but it's like...
alex jones
Wait a minute, how do we tie that into Israel?
How do we blame Israel?
nick fuentes
They're working with India.
alex jones
It's true.
nick fuentes
That is true, right?
alex jones
So it's Israel's fault.
nick fuentes
You said it, you said it, not me.
alex jones
I thought, yeah!
nick fuentes
All right.
owen shroyer
There you go.
Israel's fault.
He is wearing the flag, the colors of the flag.
nick fuentes
That's right.
owen shroyer
So you can see here.
alex jones
Jones came in to distract the issues.
owen shroyer
Jones came in to talk about Israel.
I wasn't even talking about Israel.
nick fuentes
It's this rabid anti-Semite came in.
owen shroyer
I was talking about the future of the conservative party.
Like, you're Nick Fuentes' Howard Lutnick?
alex jones
I'm out of here.
owen shroyer
Who I think's doing a great job.
I think Lutnick's doing a great job.
alex jones
We're not going to sell the gay frog anymore, the stray frog, because it looks too much like Jonathan Greenblatt.
owen shroyer
If Greenblatt put on a hoodie like this...
alex jones
By the way, it's a big hit.
owen shroyer
You could put a Greenblatt hoodie on him like that.
alex jones
I have two of those.
I could actually do the David Attenborough thing.
You had the idea that I did the day I showed you for everything, but it wasn't good enough.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, we didn't get the David Attenborough.
alex jones
I've been doing this forever.
I was annoyed.
I want to see it all the time.
He actually likes it now.
I only do it like once a month.
owen shroyer
No, I mean, come on in here, man.
alex jones
But the point is, this is a legendary studio.
Are you feeling sad and bad we're about to be out of here?
owen shroyer
I don't think about it.
I can't think about it, Alex.
I wouldn't be able to do my job if I had thought about it.
nick fuentes
Love that.
Burn the boats mentality.
owen shroyer
It'd be like, how could you motivate to go play if you know the team's about to trade you, type of thing, you know?
Or the team's about to get sold, like the Oakland Athletics or something.
There you go.
Do you feel comfortable right now?
nick fuentes
Yeah, I love it.
owen shroyer
Are you sure?
nick fuentes
Like, are you winning, son?
owen shroyer
Actually, that frog is actually called J.D. Is it?
Sure, that's J.D. Vance.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
I named my frog after J.D. Vance.
My favorite vice president.
alex jones
They're already called the curse of Vance, right?
nick fuentes
Yeah, Vance curse.
owen shroyer
It is insane.
That is insane.
How that happens.
nick fuentes
He seems nice, yeah.
alex jones
It's called product placement.
I'm going to stop.
Do you like it up there with you?
I'm going to leave.
nick fuentes
I like it, yeah.
I like him up here.
alex jones
No, it distracts.
owen shroyer
It's distracting, actually.
Because now people are just going to be thinking about the frog and not what we're saying.
No, you have to.
We should actually, you could do a package deal, Alex.
alex jones
Take the two I gave you with you.
nick fuentes
I am.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Because they need to have two at a time.
owen shroyer
Well, I was going to say, you need to do a package.
We need to do a package sale.
alex jones
You're the one that started.
You asked me if it was a boy and a girl.
Exactly.
We don't sell two boy frogs.
owen shroyer
So bring in the pink one and then sell it as a package deal.
Save the frogs.
nick fuentes
There you go.
owen shroyer
You can put a little magnet in there.
alex jones
What's wrong with the frogs?
owen shroyer
A lot of things, actually.
alex jones
The number one.
owen shroyer
You could, you could, if you wanted to do.
If you wanted to do full spectrum so everybody's represented, you could have some gay ones, too.
You could do a rainbow frog.
Like old Beanie Babies.
alex jones
Like Pedo Frogs?
Bestiality Frogs?
owen shroyer
Chank Yogurt would like that.
alex jones
Oh, a frog that has sex with donkeys.
owen shroyer
Well, Chank Yogurt would support that, at least.
Maybe he might be curious.
alex jones
He's a dictator of Earth, the first thing to do with pleasure donkeys.
owen shroyer
You know what?
I will say this, though, about the Young Turks.
You know, I think that they're actually original and they mean what they say.
Even though I disagree with a lot of their stuff, at least they believe what they say.
Like, these leftists on TV, I don't even think they believe half the crap they say.
alex jones
Oh, there's another frog in the room.
nick fuentes
Oh, there we go.
Oh, that's a big one.
owen shroyer
That was the spawn.
That was the original spawn.
unidentified
That was the source.
alex jones
I actually laid all of these.
owen shroyer
That was the source right there.
nick fuentes
There you go.
alex jones
I'm leaving.
owen shroyer
All right, you either have to pull up a microphone or...
Because we...
unidentified
This is just...
owen shroyer
It sounds bad.
There's the original, Kermit the Frog.
alex jones
Don't.
That's like showing pornography to sing a show of donkey.
I'm serious.
He seems to start licking his lips.
He goes...
owen shroyer
Who was that?
He had a good moment.
Was it on Piers Morgan, I think?
When that, it was like an Israeli spy was like, we'll blow up the whole world if we have to.
And Cenk was like, what did he just say?
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's been pretty on top of it.
He's still afraid of me, though.
alex jones
Stop!
owen shroyer
That kind of looks like you, Alex.
Actually, that's, you might need to do an ancestry test.
nick fuentes
I asked him.
He was very coy about it.
I said, what's your background?
He said, oh, I don't know.
owen shroyer
He got a little nervous, actually.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah, he's sweating a little bit.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Well, maybe there's some trace amounts.
owen shroyer
It's not illegal here to do the Ancestry.
alex jones
That was the trick, was me acting nervous so everyone would pick up the Hitler rumor.
That's called a joke.
And when I said my name was David Mendelsohn, I go, all right, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to tell you who I am.
I'm really nervous about this.
nick fuentes
He got nervous about Bill Hicks.
That's when he really...
That was the true layer.
owen shroyer
He was panicking.
The mask was about to come off.
alex jones
I look nothing like Bill Hicks.
owen shroyer
It's actually kind of crazy, though.
Because you do look like Bill Hicks, though.
But there's 8 billion people on Earth.
nick fuentes
We've seen the documents.
owen shroyer
People used to think...
alex jones
Blue eyes.
He had dark brown hair.
What are you talking about?
owen shroyer
We know what the CIA can do.
Change your eye color.
Ozempic Jones.
alex jones
What he can do is get the fucking planet blown up.
I'm leaving.
I got work to do.
owen shroyer
Oh, now he's leaving.
nick fuentes
Well, shut it down.
owen shroyer
First it was Bill Hicks, and then it was Jones-Stein.
nick fuentes
I don't even know.
owen shroyer
Now I'm just off balance.
alex jones
I look like that.
unidentified
I think I see the resemblance.
alex jones
The brown eyes are the best part, right?
nick fuentes
There it is.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, people say I look like Brad Pitt.
I'm not going to deny that.
unidentified
True.
owen shroyer
So, maybe I'm a Brad Pitt clone.
unidentified
Well, not now, because I got long hair and a beard.
owen shroyer
I don't know if he can grow a beard.
nick fuentes
Who's there?
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Me and my people, me and my Mennonites have been saving North Carolina, the mountain towns.
The government can't figure it out.
They don't even know how to rebuild a barn.
alex jones
Oh my god!
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, well, we've caught you.
owen shroyer
Bill Hicks is dead.
Bill Hicks is dead.
Alex Jones is alive.
nick fuentes
But they were never in the same place at the same time, which makes you think.
owen shroyer
It's kind of like the whole...
See?
nick fuentes
Similar.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
owen shroyer
Jennifer Aniston was not that great, though.
I have to say, overrated.
nick fuentes
Oh, man.
owen shroyer
What did Brad Pitt do?
Is he?
I don't know much about Brad Pitt, I have to be honest.
Other than we were cloned from the same science lab.
alex jones
All the stuff that's happened here.
This is a historic place.
owen shroyer
What did...
What did my fellow clone—well, see, that's what they do.
When they make these clones, they have to put one on the left and then one on the right.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
That's the whole operation program out of Epstein's Zorro Ranch.
nick fuentes
It's a dialectic.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that's what they were doing.
alex jones
I'm just going to wait and make sure you guys don't talk about it.
owen shroyer
So, like, out of the Zorro Ranch came Bill Hicks, and then on the other side came Alex Jones.
So it was just, like, the same source.
So who's your—on the left, who's your guy?
nick fuentes
Who do you think I look like on the left?
alex jones
Michael Moore.
nick fuentes
Yeah, similar.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
nick fuentes
Ouch.
I'm getting a little heavier.
owen shroyer
If he lost 200 pounds.
Well, you said you were going to get fat.
nick fuentes
I'm getting a little fat.
I barely fit in the shoes.
owen shroyer
I actually lied.
You lied.
He lied to your audience.
You are not getting fat.
nick fuentes
Look at this.
I could barely button this.
Because I am packing it on.
owen shroyer
If I had a side angle, you'd see he's exaggerating.
nick fuentes
I found the weight you lost.
owen shroyer
He's exaggerating.
alex jones
What are you talking about?
owen shroyer
I was asking him questions and you came barging in here.
nick fuentes
We were talking about Israel, so he did add a...
alex jones
Hey, I'm getting a little nostalgic about this place about to shut down.
We've survived so many people aren't taking it serious.
Is it serious though?
owen shroyer
I can't...
Alex, I can't think...
Alright, yeah, we're done, man.
We're probably done.
Of course we're going to be done.
They were always going to shut it down.
So what?
So what?
So we can't do good commentary?
alex jones
People should pray.
I mean, we'll come back bigger than ever.
owen shroyer
Well, yeah, I mean, they're going to take out the mothership.
I mean, that's what it's all about.
But they were always going to do it.
It was always...
They were always going to shut this place down.
They were never going to let it go on.
They were always going to let this place get destroyed by the establishment.
Where are you going?
No, I'm just...
We're just curious now.
We're a little suspicious.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Are you going to Zorro Ranch?
nick fuentes
Back to the source?
alex jones
I'll tell you where I'm going.
I'm going to the studio to shoot an emergency video for the minute when the sheriff's come to shut this down any time next week.
Unless the Court of Appeals allows it to go to the Supreme Court and allows it to stay, which the 99% chance they're not, that's on Monday.
And then I'm saying imminent, imminent, imminent.
And look, I'm all about fighting, and it's not their victory, and I know we're going to come back bigger than ever.
It's just I've been here 16 years.
I know there's so many memories, and it's just so horrible what they did.
Justice Department funding it, rigged trials.
I'm more nostalgic.
owen shroyer
Well, what's a shame is that...
We're seeing these corrupt judges go down now.
Every judge in Travis County is probably corrupt.
They do this thing.
Now you hear the Trump administration, they say, I think they say judge shopping or court shopping, whatever the phrase that they use.
It's like, that's what they did.
You were the first case.
alex jones
Well, they've done it before, but they admitted my case was getting it perfected for Trump.
owen shroyer
Well, it's like, I can't even...
You can't even live in Travis County if you're a conservative.
Because they'll take you into court, get you in front of one of their judges.
You're cooked.
There's no case.
They set the precedent with you.
They'll just say, oh, we just say you're guilty.
It's like, what?
Don't I get a trial?
No.
Well, I'm innocent.
Oh, you can't say you're innocent or we'll arrest you.
What?
In what American courtroom does that happen?
alex jones
Remember with me in Connecticut?
They said, yeah.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
So it's just like...
alex jones
And people are watching on YouTube.
And 99% of the comments were against him at that point.
They're like, you can't say you're innocent?
owen shroyer
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy to go through it.
It's crazy to actually witness that, to have to sit in the wrong corner of the courtroom that you know is rigged against you.
alex jones
Well, we got a lot of members in here, and they want the catalog off of it.
Everybody needs to save this, remember this, and have a lot of stuff.
owen shroyer
Yeah, archive, archive everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick fuentes
InfoWars tattoo.
I like it.
owen shroyer
Like MS-13 style?
nick fuentes
Maybe a face tattoo, yeah.
InfoWars face tattoo.
owen shroyer
Mike Tyson style.
nick fuentes
Knuckles.
They'll deport me for it, though.
I'll be in El Salvador.
owen shroyer
That'll be their proof.
Yeah.
I hear it's nice down there in El Salvador, though.
You know, the Democrats seem to like it.
They're all going down there.
Must be nice.
nick fuentes
Yeah, I don't know if it's by choice, but yeah, they're headed down there.
owen shroyer
Taxpayer-funded vacation in El Salvador.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the illegal immigrants, but yeah, they're visiting.
owen shroyer
Oh, no, I'm talking about the Democrats.
There were at least five.
I wouldn't be surprised if more don't go down there.
I can see it.
They pick up their phone.
They're like, hey, yeah, you know, they got these jails down here, but you just go do a photo shoot?
And then go enjoy.
The streets are clean.
There's beaches.
El Salvador's really nice, man.
You should come down here immediately.
Just do the media thing and then enjoy.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Must be nice.
I thought they're keeping him from them.
I think he talked to one of the politicians.
They did.
owen shroyer
They let him out.
He probably put on a hat that was sending a message to his gang members.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
I've never heard of that.
I've never.
They wouldn't even let...
Congressmen and women visit me when I was in prison.
nick fuentes
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
owen shroyer
It was a whole federal case.
It got brought up to the BOP hearing by Matt Gaetz.
But yeah, they wouldn't even let Marjorie Taylor Greene, Clay Higgins.
Like, they were all on it.
They wouldn't even let them visit me.
nick fuentes
Wow.
owen shroyer
But hey, you know, I'm not a gangbanger.
nick fuentes
You're not MS-13, so you don't get that privilege.
owen shroyer
I'm a dirty conservative commentator, so...
nick fuentes
Citizen, yeah, American citizen.
owen shroyer
How dare I?
You know, if I would have...
If you think about it, though, if...
This isn't even hyperbole.
It's the fact.
If I were an illegal immigrant gangbanger, I'd get visits from congressmen and women.
nick fuentes
Yeah, that's what's happening now.
That's our country.
owen shroyer
Well, it's not our country.
And I ask myself this a lot.
I said this yesterday.
We've got a couple minutes here to the break.
I wonder...
How much can we really even get back at this point versus how much is lost?
There's things that I do believe we can get back and we can restore a lot of the American lifestyle.
But a lot of it, even just based off technology, there will never be another decade like the 90s, the 80s, the 70s.
There will never be another definitive decade probably ever, maybe in world history.
nick fuentes
Because of stuck culture, because of technology.
I agree.
I think...
I think we can cope with technology.
What we can't cope with is the diversity.
That's the part that's on the long term.
That's the trajectory I'm worried about because you can elect Trump.
You can cut the taxes.
All these things they talk about doing, let's say we do them.
We're going to be aliens in our own land.
You look at the map of newborns that are European, that are white.
It's like 20% in most states.
It's very, very low.
And some people are okay with that.
Some people aren't even thinking about it, but it's going to change everything about our way of life, whatever the political score is.
It'll change the political score itself.
So, you know, we're playing a long game is the point.
This is like, this is the beginning of the end of phase one of a very long story of trying to reconquer this country and our civilization.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and it's almost like, just from a pragmatic standpoint, you're thinking, okay, well, if certain things are inevitable, with Trump in there right now, it's like, at least you can give us an oxygen tank while we're sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
You know what I'm saying?
You can at least give us an oxygen tank here, because sometimes it kind of feels like that.
But I wonder if the things that Trump does, how much we can actually make permanent, because the pendulum always swings.
Unless you make 100...
A thousand arrests.
The pendulum will always swing back.
Nick Fuentes in studio.
We'll be right back.
Alright, I had some other things I wanted to show to Nick here.
Nick Fuentes in studio.
And then we started talking about...
I never saw this, but apparently Pete Booty Juice, Booty Judge, he says he got a discount.
Buying his baby because the baby was black.
So, okay, I guess we'll go there.
But first I wanted to see what your thoughts are, because this is probably worse than even the booty juice situation.
Yeah, here you go.
What do you think about this one?
What do you think about this one, Nick?
Go ahead, put it on the screen, guys.
This is the most famous gay couple that bought children.
Kyle, can I sit on my shoulder?
unidentified
Oh my gosh, you're so tall.
Can I sit on my shoulder?
Wow.
No.
owen shroyer
Kyle, look at all your balloons.
unidentified
Do you love it?
Do you love it?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I don't know how much more of this I can take, to be honest.
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
You know, it's, when I try to remove my own political bias from this, and I look at, I'm like, okay, well, I guess there's an argument that could be made.
You were kind of saying this during the break.
There's an argument that could be made that...
It could be a better situation for these kids to get adopted, even if it is by a gay couple, than living in foster care or whatever the case is.
There's a practical thing involved in that debate.
But it's just like, you know it's not natural.
You know that's not how it's supposed to be.
And so where do you draw that line?
I'm against...
Gay men adopting children.
But, you know, it's an interesting point to be made.
But the Pete Booty Judge situation.
But that is like, that's just all for social media clout.
nick fuentes
Which one?
Pete or these guys?
owen shroyer
Those guys.
nick fuentes
These guys.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, here's the thing.
The problem is that lifestyle is inherently not stable.
You know, the reason that you have kids between a man and a woman, obviously man and woman can create kids, but also because they get married and then they're monogamous.
They have one partner until death do them part.
And so they're going to raise the kids from start to finish, from the time they're a baby until they're adults.
Gay men don't have monogamy.
Gay men don't have real marriage.
You know, they don't bond in the same way that a man and a woman do.
And so inherently in the gay lifestyle, because there's no kids involved, because it's not involving women, because the appetites of men are greater, and there's a greater penchant for promiscuity, it lends itself to swinger lifestyle.
Serial non-monogamy, you know, involving other people.
They get together, they break apart.
This is terrible for kids, not to mention it's just on its face, it's immoral.
So, you know, we just have to get back to the country being run by common sense.
You know, the libertarian thing only gets you so far.
When you start questioning the fundamentals and you say, well, you know, they can adopt, they look fun, they seem nice enough.
It's like, okay, but fun and nice enough isn't actually sufficient to raise a kid.
owen shroyer
When they start normalizing putting a womb in a man, we're so cooked.
nick fuentes
Yeah, and you know that's coming, too.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah.
But I'll tell you this.
If I was a woman, I would get ahead of that one.
Because I'm telling you right now, there will be men that will just say, oh, I can do it without a woman?
nick fuentes
I think of the robots first.
owen shroyer
Oh, you could have the robots, too.
nick fuentes
Sex robots.
owen shroyer
That's what women got to worry about.
That stuff is so crazy to me.
And I just...
I look at the young kids now, too, where they deal with a lot of this stuff.
And we're kind of from different generations.
You're Gen Z, I guess?
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
So I'm a millennial.
So we're from different generations.
And I actually was going to talk about this with you.
But, I mean, I think about the things that the young guys coming up now, maybe they're in high school now, and I'm like, I didn't, there was never a situation where I would have gone out with friends and maybe were trying to talk to girls at a bar or a party or something.
Like, I would have never thought, okay, do I have to be concerned that this is a man?
Like, do I have to be worried that I'm talking to a dude here?
It was like, that was never even a situation.
Now, I feel like you might have to consider that.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
That might be a real thing you gotta think about.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
You gotta see what's going on under the hood.
I don't know.
I feel like you could clock them pretty easily.
They're pretty...
owen shroyer
I would say that, but man, I mean, you see what some of these surgeons are doing now.
nick fuentes
No.
I mean, they say that, but look at the transgender in Euphoria.
I've never seen that.
It's Hunter Schaefer.
Never saw it?
owen shroyer
No.
nick fuentes
Oh, that's pretty gratuitous.
But the actress, or actor, I guess, transgender actor in that show, they say, oh, this is a good example of a transgender that passes.
He looks really a lot like a woman.
owen shroyer
Guys, pull that up.
nick fuentes
But you see some of the pictures of them, and some of them with a lot of makeup and the clothes, yeah, you can kind of see how that could pass as a woman, but without the makeup, in plain lighting, it's a dude.
It's straight up like a dude.
And this is the poster child.
This is supposed to be the elegant, young, the face of a passing transgender.
It doesn't even work for him, so I think it's pretty easy to tell.
owen shroyer
Yeah, but some of them get started so young.
nick fuentes
Even Blair.
You could tell Blair's a guy, don't you think?
owen shroyer
Yeah, I would say so, but that might also be because I know that.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I don't know.
That could just be because I know that that's not a woman.
nick fuentes
They do get started young, you wonder.
owen shroyer
And now when they get started young, it's like...
nick fuentes
You know what else, though?
They're always gawky.
Like, they always got, like, the proportions are all wrong.
owen shroyer
There's definitely a proportional thing.
That's kind of the biggest tell if you can find a way.
But they can even mess with that.
nick fuentes
Look at his hands, too.
With the surgery.
Those are guys' hands.
owen shroyer
But you know that's a guy.
So it's like, if you didn't know, how confident would you be?
Would you be willing to bet your life savings?
nick fuentes
Yeah, I know.
You're probably right.
Maybe at a glance, in a bar, lights are down.
Yeah, you never know.
You never know.
Paranoia.
owen shroyer
I can't even imagine having to think about that.
It's like, imagine the problems.
It's like, now these kids, it's like, oh my gosh, you've got to think about fentanyl.
If you're smoking a joint, you've got to think about a woman might have a package in her pants.
Like, good lord, what's next?
You know, like, you made a great point when we were talking on a space the other day, because this is something, it never even crossed my head.
We were in this space with Harry Sisson and I forget his friend's name, and I was debating them, and it was like, they responded to the things I would say, and I was like, you sound like you're a lawyer.
I was like, this is like something like you're speaking like a lawyer or something, and then you entered the space and you said, well...
You know, you guys can read off of your chat GPT, and it was just like, boom, in my head.
Like, I didn't even think about that.
Like, they're literally sitting there with AI processing their debate response.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I didn't even think of that.
nick fuentes
I know.
I debated one of them.
I debated Dean Withers, and somebody told me, oh, he's reading off the screen.
owen shroyer
It's so obvious when you said it.
I was like, oh my gosh.
nick fuentes
Yeah, it's like you ever see there's a TikTok where the guy's like doing a job interview.
They go, show your screen, show your screen right now.
And he's got ChatGPT on his phone, typing it up.
That's just what they do.
So yeah, it's funny how quickly that's been adopted.
owen shroyer
Maybe you know this, maybe you don't.
I mean, you've been out of school for a while.
But is that like normal?
I hear a lot of talk about that when I hear commentary about issues in school.
I hear a lot of talk about that now.
Like, they have to set up a new AI system inside the school to track whether the paper you just turned in was AI or not.
nick fuentes
Yeah, everyone's doing it.
And there is a piece in Axios about this a couple weeks ago.
Teachers are putting it out there that all the students are using ChatGPT and it's causing a deficit in people's ability to critical think.
You know, it's kind of doing what the calculator did for people doing basic addition or multiplication, but with everything, with writing, with reading comprehension, with you name it.
And how do you beat it?
I mean, if you're a teacher, the only way that you could beat AI is with other AI.
And then they mask it.
You know, they come up with different services.
So it's not good.
owen shroyer
Well, I think about it, this is probably so foreign to these kids.
I mean, when I, even up to in college, if I was going to write a paper on something, I had to go to the library.
And even, we had access to the internet, but it was still like, there was way much more you could get out of the library and find books and stuff.
Like, it was still kind of a necessity if you wanted to write a good paper.
I don't even think, do they even step foot in the library anymore?
nick fuentes
Well, if they do, certainly it's not books.
It's a computer lab.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
nick fuentes
I mean, Dewey Decimal System, they're not doing that anymore.
I mean, even in my day, that was already outdated.
My parents tell me they're boomers.
They say, oh, you know, if we want to look something up, if you want to know anything...
It's not like now you pull up your phone, you Google it, they said, no, you'd have to go, and you'd go into the archives, special machine to read the old newspapers, actually have to go into the books.
And now, I mean, forget about it.
You're not even doing a Google search.
You're just typing it in into ChatGPT.
owen shroyer
It is insane how fast that has changed, that landscape.
And it's only going to, it's exponential now, where it's like, I always say, our life experience, even you and I, they're probably like 10 years apart.
I'm 35. Even our life experience, it'll be more similar to our grandparents.
Our life experience will be more similar to our grandparents than it will be to our children, even.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah, that's probably true.
Because my generation, I got in right before smartphones and social media, and I think that's when you hit takeoff.
That's liftoff.
Smartphones and social media, which starts to come around, like, 2012, 2014.
owen shroyer
Well, the first iPhone, I think, was 2007.
nick fuentes
But mass adoption.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Especially for kids.
Because I was born in 98. I had a flip phone until I was 14 or something.
I got the iPhone about 2012.
And I think that's right around the cutoff when you get like 70% of the population gets a smartphone and they're on Facebook or they're on Instagram.
And that is the kind of inflection point, I think, in the history of mankind.
Because even at my age, I remember waiting.
You know, don't you remember going to a doctor's office in a waiting room and you just had to sit there?
And you'd go to the dentist?
owen shroyer
Maybe they have a magazine stack or something.
nick fuentes
Magazine, or they had one of those games with the water.
owen shroyer
A tic-tac board or something?
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah.
And now that doesn't exist anymore.
The concept of idleness, boredom.
Doesn't exist anymore, you know?
You're uncomfortable for two seconds, pull out the phone.
Games, social media, Chad GPT.
Back in our day.
owen shroyer
Back in my day.
nick fuentes
Long car ride, waiting room, you know, you name it.
You just had to...
owen shroyer
You had to find ways.
You had to get creative.
nick fuentes
Right.
So it's like a different level of consciousness.
owen shroyer
One of the craziest things for me was, I know you really love spending time at the gym.
It's a big thing of yours.
nick fuentes
Oh yeah.
owen shroyer
Lifting weights.
Yeah.
No, so I'll go play basketball with some of these high school kids, and they'll take a break and hit a vape pen.
In between games, they're hitting a vape pen.
I'm like, what the hell?
Every once in a while playing streetball, you might see a guy that might go hit a cigarette or something, but even that's kind of like, there's a little like...
You know, some manliness to hitting the cigarette.
nick fuentes
Right.
owen shroyer
They're going here like sucking a machine.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I'm like, oh my gosh.
nick fuentes
And it's brought back smoking because cigarettes were done.
When I was a kid, cigarettes were done.
And then in a span of maybe a few years, you went from those blue e-cigarettes, the first ones they put out, to mass adoption of the vapes, the jewels, you know, all those little devices.
And God only knows what's in there.
I mean, that's a health crisis waiting to happen when we find out what that's doing to people's lungs.
owen shroyer
There's a big case on those in Florida right now because China's bringing in, you know, non-FDA-approved juice or whatever it's called.
alex jones
I'm talking about Israel!
owen shroyer
I did just say juice.
I told you the Kool-Aid man.
I told you the Kool-Aid man would be back.
I said the Kool-Aid man would be back.
They can hear that door, too.
It sounds like the Kool-Aid man breaking.
unidentified
That door is the longest one.
owen shroyer
Now, see, he's smoking a cigarette.
See, that's what it used to be like.
I'm telling you, the amount of vape I see, it's wild to me.
It's mind-blowing.
It's a generational thing.
alex jones
I quit smoking forever.
unidentified
And then I got back on him off and on.
nick fuentes
What do we got working here?
Coconut?
alex jones
Just some all-natural pineapples.
owen shroyer
All-natural, huh?
nick fuentes
Right.
owen shroyer
There you go.
alex jones
Deserve this kind of stuff.
owen shroyer
You've earned it.
nick fuentes
Good medicine, yeah.
owen shroyer
You've earned it.
alex jones
I'm enjoying every minute just the history of this place.
I kind of hate being here because I'm here so much, but I'm trying to take it to last year.
All the raids and all the...
Do you follow that stuff?
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
People are like, that's not real.
There's no way.
It was real.
It's freaking crazy, dude.
Remember sending armed security with no court order?
And then, like, the fake auction and all that?
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah.
The Onion?
The Onion isn't the owners of this place?
I was told the Onion owned this place.
alex jones
By the way, you learned it's them again.
They're going to get it, and they're going to be a laughingstock, but not in the way they want to be.
See ya, buddy.
nick fuentes
See ya.
All right.
alex jones
I'll be back.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, I mean, it's what they do, man.
These Democrat judges are not judges, man.
They're just Democrat activists.
And it's time that the Republicans understand that and start acting accordingly.
alex jones
You don't see a frog with a spartan or the eagle.
owen shroyer
That's the problem, though.
You know, you get these Republican judges that are actually real judges.
They want to be neutral.
They want to do their job.
nick fuentes
There we go.
owen shroyer
They don't want to play with frogs.
nick fuentes
Frog and the eagle.
owen shroyer
That's power.
alex jones
Dude, look, the frickin' eagle's protecting the frog.
owen shroyer
That's power.
Yes.
unidentified
You've done well.
owen shroyer
You've done well.
nick fuentes
There you go.
Symbolism, yeah.
owen shroyer
What is that?
nick fuentes
Yeah, absolutely.
These are.
owen shroyer
Did you see?
Was that Google AI?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
What is it?
owen shroyer
The Google AI says the Onion owns Infowars.
nick fuentes
Oh, wow.
owen shroyer
So Google AI is wrong.
Or I don't know.
Is there something I need to know here, Alex?
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah, there it is.
The company purchased Infowars in 24. And then it failed and got struck down by a judge.
owen shroyer
It literally didn't.
alex jones
But it will be soon, so they don't matter.
Sir, Lord Freutas, King of the Gripers, will unite me in your empire?
nick fuentes
Yes.
All right.
alex jones
What are your commands, your lordship?
nick fuentes
Destroy Israel.
No, I'm kidding.
unidentified
Just kidding.
owen shroyer
Here's a little symbolism for you here.
You can't help yourself.
Here, here you go.
alex jones
There we go.
Guys, make a quick AI of this frog.
Go grab it off the auction.com shopping cart so you get an HD version and give it a Hitler mustache.
We have to have that.
owen shroyer
We must have it.
alex jones
No, just give me a Sharpie.
Shit, I don't need AI.
nick fuentes
Oh yeah, there you go.
owen shroyer
You're going to deface an innocent frog?
nick fuentes
We're trying to save the frogs.
But sometimes the only way to save the frogs...
owen shroyer
Oh, my gosh.
nick fuentes
...destroy all their predators.
owen shroyer
Oh boy.
unidentified
Oh boy.
Wow.
nick fuentes
Hey, don't put that on me.
You drew that.
unidentified
No, no.
owen shroyer
Here, here.
unidentified
All right.
nick fuentes
I'll take it.
Hitler Groyper.
owen shroyer
Well, I was going to say, you need to...
nick fuentes
This is bad optics, you guys.
alex jones
No.
Gotta make it.
nick fuentes
There we go.
There we go.
alex jones
I'll make it better.
nick fuentes
Oh, there we go.
Now he's got a regular.
alex jones
Now he's Italian.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
He's Italian.
alex jones
No, now he's Ben Shapiro.
owen shroyer
I've got a little hat.
I've got a Shapiro clip for you.
I wanted to play for you.
alex jones
Now he's okay.
owen shroyer
Now that just kind of looks like a tuft of hair, though.
nick fuentes
Now he's approved.
System approved.
owen shroyer
He's taking the bow.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Is there a wall he can touch?
nick fuentes
Yeah, where's the wall around here?
alex jones
Come on, he'll be mean.
owen shroyer
Get him a wall to touch.
You slide a little piece of paper in there.
nick fuentes
Oh, there you go.
See?
He loves him.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Oh, nice.
owen shroyer
That picture was taken in Argentina around 1948.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
That's where that was.
nick fuentes
It's a photograph.
owen shroyer
Yeah, exactly.
nick fuentes
That's a photograph.
owen shroyer
Yeah, it is.
That's what Hitler did.
nick fuentes
Colorized.
owen shroyer
When he escaped Argentina, he started raising frogs, actually.
nick fuentes
There we go.
owen shroyer
He was...
What do they call that if you're...
alex jones
Close shot, please.
owen shroyer
If you're into frogs, there's got to be a word for that.
nick fuentes
There we go.
owen shroyer
What's the study of frogs, guys?
nick fuentes
It's having a little drag.
alex jones
Hey, it's better than, uh, better than atrazine.
nick fuentes
That's true.
More tests.
That's a high test.
Groyper.
owen shroyer
High tea frog?
alex jones
He's pretty fucking cool now.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
High tea.
nick fuentes
I would buy that now.
Does it come with the cigarette or is that separate?
owen shroyer
Actually, see, now you can pull the DNA from the cigarette and run that ancestry test from the last segment that we were debating about.
See, that was all a trap.
nick fuentes
Jig is up.
owen shroyer
You came here.
The trap has been set.
nick fuentes
That's right.
owen shroyer
Sending that frog to the DNA lab right now.
nick fuentes
Yep.
Cloning and ethnic test.
owen shroyer
Well, we'll find out.
Because clones DNA doesn't register.
alex jones
That is a Ben Shapiro Hitler frog.
It's a mashup.
owen shroyer
I do.
nick fuentes
Yeah?
owen shroyer
You got a couple turtles, yeah.
unidentified
Sweet.
alex jones
Alright, I'll see you guys.
nick fuentes
Alright, see ya.
owen shroyer
Since we made the Shapiro joke, we'll do another hour.
Since we made the Shapiro joke, I got a special Shapiro video for you.
And there is nothing ironic about this video whatsoever, okay?
So just enjoy Ben Shapiro learns a magic trick.
Alright guys, let's see it.
unidentified
trick.
owen shroyer
Amazing.
unidentified
That's amazing.
Very cool.
I like it.
Say to the camera, this guy's awesome.
owen shroyer
That was the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen.
This guy's awesome.
unidentified
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Now, I have a question for you.
Who do you think ended up with that coin?
nick fuentes
It's a good question.
I think there was a battle.
owen shroyer
Well, at the end there, they cut it quick.
But it looked like Shapiro was about to get away.
nick fuentes
I think so, yeah.
I think he made off with the coin.
He started sweat when the coin disappeared.
You can see consternation.
owen shroyer
Like, wait a second.
Where did that coin go?
nick fuentes
Yeah, deep anxiety set in.
owen shroyer
$35 worth of silver.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They keep track.
You know.
owen shroyer
You know what else, though, I noticed about this video.
Did you notice how they cut?
There was a cut there?
nick fuentes
No.
Was there?
owen shroyer
Guys, roll it again.
Roll it again.
Now, be on the lookout for the cut.
This is supposed to be a magic trick, but there was a cut.
I'm curious what happened, guys.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I'm close to you.
owen shroyer
I'm not going to touch you.
unidentified
Good.
So is my wife.
Watch.
Did I touch you?
No.
Good.
Coin.
Goes in the hand.
Three.
owen shroyer
Three.
unidentified
Two.
One.
Coin vanishes.
Not top pockets, not side pockets.
Completely goes.
But that wasn't the magic.
That was just interesting.
Okay.
Here's the magic.
owen shroyer
Cut!
unidentified
Oh!
owen shroyer
Cut!
What?
Yeah!
nick fuentes
Oh, come on now.
You can't be doing that.
owen shroyer
So they clearly cut and he put the coin in his watch.
unidentified
Yes.
nick fuentes
Yeah, that's a continuity.
You can't have that.
You need continuity.
owen shroyer
Now, if I...
So, it looks to me like they set that up.
They cut it and edit it and then put the coin on and stuck it in his watch to do the magic trick.
Or, there might have been a fight.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
When the coin disappeared.
nick fuentes
They had to edit that part out.
owen shroyer
Things got a little tentious.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah.
Got a little ugly.
owen shroyer
There was a little confusion at that time.
nick fuentes
Hats were flying everywhere.
owen shroyer
Hats were flying.
Come on, man.
Come on.
There's your favorite guy.
nick fuentes
There he is, yeah.
owen shroyer
Did you see Shapiro got the Zelensky interview, too?
nick fuentes
I saw that, yeah.
owen shroyer
What did you think about that?
nick fuentes
Well, I mean, they're really moving heaven and earth to try to bring Daily Wire back.
You know, I think Shapiro said...
owen shroyer
Oh, they want some of that Ukraine money?
nick fuentes
No, no.
They're just doing all these big publicity stunts.
The Derek Chauvin thing.
This interview.
I mean, they're really trying to get people back after Brett Cooper and Candace Owens.
owen shroyer
You mean Peterson isn't working?
He's not helping the cause?
nick fuentes
I don't think so.
Yeah, no.
I don't know if that's helping.
Seems like he's doing more harm than good.
owen shroyer
Yeah, you know, that whole Dave Smith situation, I don't think we'll see week four of damage control.
They did do week three of damage control this week.
It's the most obvious damage control I've ever seen.
I wonder if they'll do a week four of it.
That would be stunning if they did.
I don't know.
I never understood the Peterson thing.
I always thought that that was like an awkward deal.
But now he's kind of exposed himself as just a flop.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's emulated his credibility because he used to be considered like a teacher.
You know, he was considered to be like a spiritual leader for Generation Z. I was talking about this on my show.
He wasn't even considered just a regular commentator.
He was considered to be like the father of this generation by a lot of disaffected young people.
And in just the past three years, it's just everything's become about damage control for Israel.
I don't get it.
I don't know if it's the money.
I don't know if it's political.
Maybe that's just how he feels.
But it never used to be that way.
There was always something there.
He got asked about Dostoevsky in the very beginning, in like 2018, 2017.
Solzhenitsyn.
Solzhenitsyn wrote a piece about the Jews in Russia, 200 years together.
And Peterson's a big Solzhenitsyn fan, Gulag Archipelago.
So somebody said, well, what do you make of the 200 years together essay?
And Peterson said, I just can't answer that.
I can't.
That was a long time ago.
And that's all we heard about it.
And now it's become like the obsession.
So I don't know what changed, but something changed about 2021, 22?
owen shroyer
You know what?
I don't know if anything necessarily changed other than the perception that he was able to present.
It kind of came to reality.
And I think he got exposed.
The interview he did with Rogan this week was just like flop after flop.
analogy of the whale.
Yeah. And then it was like he tried so hard.
And then there was some other analogy.
He tried so hard afterwards, he was like out of breath.
It's like, damn, that was hard for you, wasn't it?
nick fuentes
Yeah.
You know what it is?
He got, I think, really arrogant and affected by the money, the fame, notoriety, and he just stopped working hard.
He showed up to a debate with Slavoj Zizek.
And his preparation was he skimmed the Communist Manifesto on his way there in the car.
It's like you're debating one of the world's renowned Marxists, and your prep work was you skimmed the book, you skimmed Communist Manifesto.
So I think that's kind of what's happened.
And like you said, maybe the mask is just slipping now that he's gotten a little affected, a little arrogant.
Because in the old days, he used to be a pretty compelling speaker.
I found him to be.
owen shroyer
Well, he's always been a good presenter.
I think that that was his strength.
But eventually, if you don't provide substance...
People realize that you're an empty shell.
nick fuentes
Right.
owen shroyer
And I think that that was the big thing from that Rogan interview earlier this week was people realized, oh, there's no substance here.
It's just Flash.
He's got a good lexicon, good presenter, probably reads a lot, but you try to get some depth and there's just nothing there.
He starts talking about a whale in Pinocchio.
And even Rogan was like, what in the hell?
Like, what?
I thought you stopped doing drugs.
Yeah, it's like, here, I got some for you right here.
It's the Rogan show.
All right, where do we go from here?
I have some serious stuff we could talk about here with Nick Flint is in studio.
We got some other fun stuff we could talk about.
Here's a quick one for this segment.
Did you see any of this Shannon Sharp drama by any chance?
nick fuentes
I did, yeah.
I saw a little bit.
owen shroyer
Well, he should have taken your advice.
No e-girls ever.
nick fuentes
True.
owen shroyer
But what I've noticed, and conservatives tend to do this a lot, and it's the hive mind, and so it's just natural.
I get it.
But a lot of conservatives, right-wingers, are jumping on Shannon Sharp, and maybe he's said some liberal things or some anti-conservative ideology in the past.
But I don't think they really looked into this.
I think he should have taken your advice.
No eagles ever.
But I'm looking at this case.
Shannon looks like he has been set up.
It looks like he is about to get fleeced of his fortune.
And so I don't really care what his politics are.
But to me, a lot of the conservatives are piling on him.
I look at this.
He's the victim here.
nick fuentes
I agree.
I agree.
I mean, look, he was not faithful, which is a problem.
That's the beginning of all problems in a marriage.
But this is just typical Me Too stuff.
This is another case of...
Someone's looking to cash in.
They're telling a story.
And as always, I mean, this happened to Andrew Tate not too long ago.
You just got to say, where's the evidence?
Where's the evidence?
Did anything really happen?
And I think conservatives, unfortunately, they are becoming more feminist.
I felt like for a long time, maybe conservatives were going to be the answer to feminism.
Now it seems like conservatives are part of the problem, where they are now pushing and amplifying a lot of the feminist rhetoric.
In this case, they're siding with the woman.
I think it's going to become a big problem.
I don't think you'd be traditional while you're believing all women out there, believing all OnlyFans creators or people's wives or whatever.
owen shroyer
Well, I think it even goes beyond what you're just talking about at a deeper level.
I think a lot of conservative women are kind of leaning into that as well for maybe different reasons.
I think what you need to do to stop this stuff, and by the way, I don't know if you've seen...
The evidence that has been released, but, like, we're talking about phone calls that are clearly edited out of context.
Like, I mean, it's just a joke how edited these phone calls are.
I mean, anybody could tell.
Now, Shannon might be guilty of something, but to me it's a shakedown and a setup from the very beginning from what I've seen.
But I think that what needs to happen, I think the solution for all of this is you gotta have a punishment when a woman...
And throws false allegations and accusations at a man, takes him to court, and you can prove, provably false, that it's not like, oh, well, was it this or was it that?
It's like, no, you set him up.
You tried to shake him down.
Then you need to face the same punishment that the man would have faced if he was found guilty.
nick fuentes
Yeah, absolutely.
There's got to be a punishment for the woman because as it stands right now, there's just no disincentive.
It's all upside.
unidentified
Yep.
nick fuentes
If you're a woman, you're married.
owen shroyer
And you've got lawyers that'll do it for free.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah, because they're going to do it on a contingency, and they see the money bags.
And the way the system is set up, they know that a jury is going to be sympathetic to a woman.
The press and the public will be sympathetic.
So it's all upside.
If you're married to a wealthy man, a famous man, or you're sleeping with one, it is just limitless upside, and there's not even a second thought that it could backfire.
And it gets proven all the time that they lie.
It comes out sometimes many years later, there was a famous case.
owen shroyer
Even E. Jean Carroll got caught lying.
She still won.
nick fuentes
And there was a civil case, but yeah, exactly.
That's how they do it.
So you have to start punishing.
First of all, you can't trust any women.
Trust no hoes.
That's rule number one.
Two, have to be held accountable for lying.
And I agree.
I heard some of the phone call.
He said, how would you like to be, what is it, black guy choking a white girl?
owen shroyer
I actually thought it was hilarious.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
And clearly you can tell.
She cuts the call so that you don't understand the context of what they're talking about.
Like, clearly she edited that so it made him look bad.
And I actually thought it was funny.
It was kind of a funny race joke.
He was like, and she laughed too.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
owen shroyer
He was like, oh yeah, black, big black man chokes small white girl.
unidentified
And she goes, Well, that wouldn't be very good optics, now would it?
Yeah.
owen shroyer
It's like, that was the joke.
So you got the joke.
Like, you kind of admitted it was a joke.
So it's too bad.
He said he was stepping away until next NFL season starts.
Now there's rumors that he's going to step away for good.
It's really just like, man, you gotta, something has to stop this because it's just getting worse.
Like you said, there's no, there's no legal There's no legal thing here to stop these women from these false accusations.
So it has to be.
All right, we've got 30 more minutes with Nick.
We'll be right back.
All right, we've had some fun with Nick Fuentes.
Last segment here in studio.
On a serious note, what is your final say on the legacy of Pope Francis?
And where do you think the Catholic Church goes from here?
nick fuentes
Well, you know, I am Catholic, so you've got to be careful.
owen shroyer
No, I don't think so.
I'm Catholic, too.
I'm a confirmed Catholic.
In my opinion, there's a separation there.
I have no connection to the Vatican.
nick fuentes
As a Catholic?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
None.
Doesn't represent me.
Never has.
I think it's wholly corrupted.
nick fuentes
How does that work, then?
That's sort of...
owen shroyer
Well, let me ask you this.
Do you think an American Jew should be loyal to Israel?
nick fuentes
Yeah, I do.
owen shroyer
Well, that's kind of counterintuitive.
nick fuentes
I think that if you are taking it to its logical conclusion...
The theology.
The theology of the Jewish people says that they have souls and we don't.
They got the law.
They got the covenant.
They're the God's chosen people.
And we are there to help them actualize their mission.
We're there to help them fulfill their mission.
Their temple was destroyed.
They were dispersed from the land.
It is their imperative.
And by the way, I'm not saying the Old Testament.
The Torah.
I'm talking about the Talmud.
I'm talking about the Zohar.
I'm talking about rabbinical Judaism, which has been developed since Christ.
Of course, they rejected Christ and developed a parallel religion.
Their imperative is to rebuild the temple.
So, I mean, if a Jew, strictly speaking, is adhering to their religion, yeah, they want to exterminate all Christians.
So, yeah, they shouldn't be like, oh, I'm going to be a good guy and love America.
Similarly, you know, with Catholics...
I mean, the only way it's similar is we're looking at the theology.
The theology of the Catholic Church is that is the representative of Christ on earth, Pope Francis.
That is the vicar of Christ.
He stands in place of Christ in the same way that Christ gave Peter the keys to bind and lose sins.
That's the Pope's authority as well.
owen shroyer
So I guess that brings me back to the original question then.
What do you think is the legacy of Pope Francis?
nick fuentes
I think that he was the wrong guy for the wrong time.
I think that...
You know, he's a Jesuit from Argentina, and he brought with him a lot of ideological baggage.
He's like a fellow traveler of like Obama and Miracle, usual suspects.
And unfortunately, that was the wrong message for this time.
His message was focused on poverty, the climate.
In reality, we should be focusing on...
I mean, what's the bigger problem?
What's the bigger moral problem in the 21st century?
Is it poverty?
I think we're doing a lot in the way of poverty.
You know, billionaires talking about giving away their money.
There's all these redistributive schemes.
There's the war on poverty.
There's entitlements.
They don't even pay taxes.
The problem is not necessarily the poor.
The problem is the corruption of the family, the corruption of sexuality, gender.
And it may be more than anything else, just a general apostasy.
People just don't believe in God.
People take the Lord's name in vain.
There's just nothing sacred.
So the reason that a lot of traditional Catholics have a problem with Francis, we agree with him on a lot of things, maybe not his politics, but his theology certainly, or most of his theology, some problematic things he said.
It's really the missed opportunity.
It's the opportunity cost of having an Obama-level pope when we really need a traditional pope to steer the church in this time.
owen shroyer
I doubt you'll get anything better when they choose the next pope.
If anything, he'll probably go further down that line of thinking, kind of that leftist, globalist line of thinking.
What do you think, though?
We all want to look at things from our own political lens, and we hope to get influence from powerful figures like that.
But what about for Europe?
Should the Pope feel any loyalties to Europe and its identity crisis, its cultural crisis?
nick fuentes
The thing is, because the Pope is in charge of two billion Catholics, and he is speaking as Christ, in place of Christ, you do have to have a global consciousness.
And so I had a disagreement with Jared Taylor.
Jared Taylor said he's betrayed his people.
And I'm like, well, his people are Catholics, and most Catholics, I think, at this point are probably not white.
With that being said, he should be sympathetic to the plight of all people.
And so on one side of the immigration crisis, you have desperate poor people fleeing violence, poverty, in some cases, persecution.
On the other side of it, you have a mass apostasy of people that's committing suicide.
And I think that Francis...
Definitely sided more with the poor.
Definitely sided more with the global south moving north.
owen shroyer
Well, they did have the rise of Catholicism in Africa, which is obviously impoverished in many of those areas.
Do you think that might have had something to do with it?
nick fuentes
Well, not just Africa, but Asia also.
There's tons of Catholics now in Asia and China, India.
So the church is changing because the world is changing.
The world had a different population dynamic.
100 years ago, with the relative proportion of Europeans and Africans than it does now.
So I don't know if I would go as far as to say the Pope should be pro-white.
He's got to be pro-humanity.
But he should be sympathetic to the plight of white people, especially because Europe does have a special role in the history of the church.
I mean, after all, it's in Rome.
owen shroyer
Maybe the most influential.
nick fuentes
Without it, well, maybe second to the Jews.
unidentified
Historically speaking.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Certainly, because the Greeks provided the philosophy, which is the background of Thomism, of the Catholic Church's philosophy.
You know, it's based on Neoplatonism, basically.
So you've got the Greeks, but you also have Rome, which evangelized the whole world.
It was Rome converting, which is what evangelized Europe, and then Europe went and evangelized the whole world.
Oh, you got this stuff here.
He didn't say he's the devil, okay?
owen shroyer
Well, yeah, well, that's AP, and they don't do the official quotes.
I just remember Pope John Paul II was like, he was really, he was a figure in the Catholic Church.
Like, people really cared about what he had to say.
I feel like, and really, it probably happened before Francis, but I feel like, at least in America, like, now, I don't think American Catholics think much about the Pope.
I don't think he moves people much.
nick fuentes
Well, I mean, American Catholics don't think that much about being Catholic.
You know, the vast majority of Catholics don't go to Mass.
They don't go to confession.
They don't believe the things that Catholics should believe, like transubstantiation.
I remember seeing some statistic.
It's like most Catholics don't believe the bread actually becomes the body of Christ, which is like a fundamental—that's fundamental Catholic theology.
I think that's part of the problem.
You know, the Pope should be a shepherd in this time when people are going away from the church, going away from God.
The Pope should be trying to get him back in.
But, you know, this is the problem with Vatican II and some of the modernism.
The church is trying to become more like the world instead of being the church, which is supposed to be eternal and unchanging.
owen shroyer
Have you ever been to the Vatican?
nick fuentes
No, never.
owen shroyer
I could maybe go visit the Vatican.
I'd like to go into the basement where the relics are.
nick fuentes
The chronovisor?
owen shroyer
Whatever they got down there.
nick fuentes
They say that they can see history, that they can look through goggles and they can see events that happened in the past.
owen shroyer
Really?
Like a time machine?
Like a vision of a time machine?
nick fuentes
Like a time machine, yeah.
So they say they've witnessed the birth of Christ and his crucifixion.
They say they witnessed...
This is like conspiracy theory stuff.
I don't think it's real.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that doesn't sound very real.
I don't know.
I think that one thing is there's enough evidence to support the theory that...
The Catholic Church has used its theology to go into archaeological discoveries and basically just steal artifacts and just hide them.
nick fuentes
Good.
I think they should.
owen shroyer
Really?
nick fuentes
Should they be in Africa?
owen shroyer
You know who that really upsets?
unidentified
Who?
owen shroyer
The Jews.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I had a debate with Adam King.
owen shroyer
Yeah, he's really into that.
nick fuentes
Oh, yeah.
He's obsessed with that.
Yeah, that's fake, by the way.
He says that we have some stolen library.
No such thing exists.
owen shroyer
I view it more as, and again, it's all about whatever your background is.
For your perspective, I just view it as these are things that the world should have access to.
I don't even look at it as a religious thing.
I just view it as all humans should have access to this secret knowledge.
I mean, they obviously lie to us about evolution.
They lie to us about the history of the earth.
Who knows?
Maybe they lie to us about the shape of the earth.
I don't know.
The point is, they keep that secret from us intentionally.
It's like they want human history to be like a closed hangout.
nick fuentes
I don't think that's true.
I think you can visit the Vatican archives and they let people go in there and study.
owen shroyer
No.
nick fuentes
I don't buy that they're hiding all these secrets.
owen shroyer
Oh my, dude.
nick fuentes
Some Protestant stuff when you say the Vatican.
owen shroyer
They have so many.
There have been archaeological discoveries and literally the Catholic Church will come in and claim we have this land and then all the stuff they discover just disappears.
nick fuentes
I don't know.
owen shroyer
It's happened multiple times.
Mostly it happens in Europe, but it's happened all over.
nick fuentes
I'm okay with it, though.
I don't think that necessarily everything...
owen shroyer
You're okay with it?
nick fuentes
I am.
owen shroyer
Are you a Catholic supremacist?
nick fuentes
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, it's a true religion.
owen shroyer
I guess that's consistent with your beliefs.
nick fuentes
It's a true religion, yeah.
So, I mean, you know, to me the museum thing really irritates me because that sounds like third world stuff when they say, well, we need to return these colonized possessions back to the Middle East.
It's like, why?
So they could get blown up by ISIS?
So some African could use it to pick his teeth or something?
owen shroyer
I guess my angle is we have to defeat the theory of evolution.
It has to be defeated.
We cannot let this go on because ultimately it's like the theory of evolution and the lie of climate change is going to be like the two-pronged attack to put you into the slave planet.
It's like those are going to be the two things that they box you in with.
So you mean nothing.
You're a squirrel turd that evolved.
So you mean nothing.
There's nothing divine about you.
You have no connection to the almighty.
You're just an evolution of a squirrel fart.
And your existence now is also killing your environment.
So you need to be in prison, basically.
If you even get the right to exist, your whole life is going to be rationed out.
So that's kind of why I look at it more than any other angle.
I'm like, people need to know you've been lied to about human history.
You've been lied to about the history of the earth.
And it totally defeats the theory of evolution.
nick fuentes
Interesting.
Catholics believe that we can believe in evolution, though.
owen shroyer
Which they're wrong about.
nick fuentes
You don't think so?
You're a creationist?
owen shroyer
100%.
nick fuentes
I believe we're created also.
owen shroyer
I'm 100% a creationist.
I mean, I would say that's undeniable.
I think anybody, and we were talking about this in the break, it's like anybody who claims to be philosophical and intellectual, we were talking about Jordan Peterson, if they can't tell you you're...
We're a divine creation.
I don't care about religion or like that.
I mean, clearly, humans are different than everything else on the planet.
Like, that is undeniable.
That's proof of divine creation.
And if you want to pose as an intellectual or a philosopher and you can't recognize that, then to me, I don't trust anything else you have to say.
That's like missing the elephant in the room.
nick fuentes
Right.
owen shroyer
Does that count?
Go ahead.
Alex is on the phone.
Go ahead.
alex jones
That's right.
I'm going to pick my daughter up.
Sports, but I had to interrupt again now that I'm really doing this.
You know, the spots on us repeating the same joke going over again.
unidentified
Fuck.
alex jones
People are driving really bad out in the rain.
Excuse me.
No, I was just watching you guys.
I wasn't actually watching, listening to the video I was playing.
So I put the watch video while you drive.
It's not safe.
And I heard Nick talking about the Pope.
And that's what I've always wanted to bring up to Nick.
I had a whole list of things in my head today, and I forgot most of them because I started screwing around a lot.
And I wanted to say to him, It's not defense of Israel, okay?
It's a separate deal about all people who think the Vatican secretly runs everything, and I'm an accused of that.
Even though my Catholic is retarded.
But at the same time, you've got the Jesuits the last hundred years.
They've gotten really leftist and communists to a great extent, and they also work with the fascists.
But the point is, they play both sides.
If you have the Jesuit pope, you know, under Catholic canon law and stuff, you're not supposed to have a Jesuit, the guardian of the church, ever become a pope.
They're like the secret police of the Catholic church.
But boom.
Sugami, five years before Francis took over, said, oh, it's going to be him using pedophilia blackmail.
And when he comes in, he's going to be really bad and, you know, push open borders and one-world religion.
And so, and then I heard Nick talking about, well, the church is trying to be inclusive and more liberal.
No.
The leadership of it, I don't think Catholics on average are great people.
It's actually one of the most active people I know.
And I think Mel Gibson, everybody, are right.
And, you know, Hutton Gibson and people about, like when he was alive, Mel Gibson's dad, a good friend of mine.
About the Catholic Church being taken over.
And that's exactly where it is at the top.
So I hope to see reform there.
But, you know, Nick wasn't really criticizing Francis.
And I remember Francis saying stuff like, I don't want to hear about Europe being Christian.
I don't want to hear about, we need to open our borders up and, you know, be Christ-like.
But nobody gets to come into Vatican City.
So, I mean, you know, a lot of criticism of Israel here.
Well, I mean, well, hell, look at the Vatican now with all its globalist support.
So I don't think Catholic Church runs everything, but it's very powerful.
And it got blackmailed and controlled, reportedly, by the Jesuits with the pedophilia stuff to basically take over.
And the Zagami was on target.
And by the way, I've been to Rome repeatedly and covered it and been to the Vatican and seen it all.
And so I just would like to get Nick's take on that.
I'm going to get off my last interruption.
Great interview today.
Great show.
I'm going to thank Nick for coming into town.
God bless you.
nick fuentes
All right.
Thanks.
Well, I would say that the Catholic Church is not as powerful as organized Jewry.
I mean, that's basically my response.
When you look at who's pulling the strings, case in point, you can go on Twitter and criticize Catholics.
You can go in your career and criticize.
Like, how many people criticize Pope Francis in conservative media?
And they're fine.
But you go in conservative media, criticize Israel?
Look what happened to Candace Owens.
Look what happened to Ye.
You know, imagine if Ye had said, guess who invented cancel culture?
The Catholic Church.
Imagine if Candace Owens went on TV and said, you know, I got a bone to pick with Pope Francis.
She'd still have a job.
Ye would still have $2 billion.
So I hear that all the time, and it just doesn't really pass the smell test.
And I'm critical of Pope Francis.
I think there's not a shortage of criticism of Pope Francis, but I do think you have to put it in its proper place of he is the head of a global institution.
And by the way, I actually agree.
I don't know how you feel about it, but I agree that the Jesuits should be suppressed.
They're almost all bad.
They're almost all super liberal, super modernist, and probably one should have never became Pope.
I think that that order is,
has been problematic for a long time.
But I don't buy into a lot of the conspiracies.
I just don't see evidence for it.
owen shroyer
Well, the one thing, and conservatives love to say this too, but can they take it all the way?
If you want to find out who controls you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize.
Right. So they'll say that all the time, but...
I hear you're going to do an interview with James Lindsay next.
nick fuentes
That's right.
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Oh, man.
And you know what?
I'll just say that in that nature, with the limited time we have remaining, I want to get your comments on this.
And there's been a lot.
This happens every election cycle.
This is how you know Nick Fuentes is very talented, because he has survived every election cycle.
And if you notice this in media, election cycles, people rise, people fall, and it's kind of like a survival of the fittest type of a thing.
Most people come and go in election cycles, and the media basically reshapes itself after every presidential election, even sometimes the midterms.
So there were people around in 2016 you've never even seen or heard of now.
And it'll be the same thing in 2028 with some of these people that have risen to prominence in 2024.
But to get to the point, what do you make of all of these new MAGA gatekeepers, because you've been here since 2016, what do you make of all the new MAGA gatekeepers here who were nowhere in 2016, nowhere in 2020, and now they want to dictate MAGA and gatekeep as far as where the political movement goes from here?
nick fuentes
Well, that's the oldest story of all time, which is that when Trump started, he was a rebel and a radical, and he was considered at one point the far right flank of the party.
owen shroyer
Well, they didn't even want him.
They tried to keep him out.
nick fuentes
Well, and I'm not even just talking about the party, because you're right.
They did try to keep him out, and they tried to mess with him in Iowa.
There was a lot of tricks they used, but I'm talking about even the voters.
There was a time even the voters considered Trump to be beyond the pale.
owen shroyer
You're right.
nick fuentes
And, you know, he gradually became super popular over the course of the primary, but it didn't happen all at once.
There were successive controversies, like when he said we should ban all Muslims from America, and like half the staff quit.
Because I know people that were on the staff back, way back when.
And they say that after in December, November 2016, or 2015, when he was in the primary, he said, Donald J. Trump is calling for a shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
Half the people quit.
And then another half quit when the Billy Bush tape came out a year later, when he said, grab him by the you-know-what.
And then here we are 10 years later.
Obviously, so much has happened.
He's become one of the most famous, popular people in the world.
He's since won, not just once, but twice.
And now all those grifters who are calling him a racist, who are saying he's a bigot against Mexicans or an Islamophobe or, you know, he's part of the alt-right.
All those people in 16, not only were they not with us, they were against us.
They're all over Mar-a-Lago.
They are all over Mar-a-Lago, sniffing around for any piece of cloud, any shoulders they could rub up against.
And now they're in charge.
Unfortunately, a lot of them are in charge.
And I think about people like Jason Miller.
I think about people even like Susie Wiles, for that matter.
She was actually there in 2016.
I think about even the campaign manager last year, whose name I'm forgetting now.
owen shroyer
Lewandowski?
nick fuentes
No, the other one.
owen shroyer
I think he's traveling around.
Oh, Brad Parscale.
nick fuentes
Oh, no.
I had a website.
I bought a domain name with his name was the website.
It was like hisname.com, but I'm blanking on his name.
owen shroyer
Was he an administration?
nick fuentes
He was the campaign manager.
owen shroyer
But you're not talking about Parscale?
nick fuentes
No.
unidentified
Hmm.
nick fuentes
What was his name?
Anyway.
What is it?
owen shroyer
No, no.
Lasavita's a new guy.
nick fuentes
Lasavita.
owen shroyer
That is what it was.
Yes.
Oh, so you're talking about recently.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
Oh, okay.
I thought you were talking about 2016.
nick fuentes
He's been around for a long time.
And Lasavita and Susie Wilde, all of them, they all flipped on Trump after January 6th.
owen shroyer
There was a lot of that.
nick fuentes
They were all saying, oh, this guy's going to have no future.
This is the worst day.
Tucker.
Tucker texted.
owen shroyer
Ezra Cohen.
Who they were rumored was going to be a part of the administration.
I don't think that ended up happening, though.
nick fuentes
I don't know.
I didn't follow that.
But point is, all these people flipped at one point or another, and they came back around because Trump's the king of the hill.
When you're the president from the ruling party, you're the nucleus of the whole.
owen shroyer
Well, it's the most powerful political movement in the world now.
nick fuentes
I agree.
owen shroyer
And so it's kind of like you want to get back in.
It's like...
It's like if there's a big party and you're like, oh, maybe I want to check out a different party.
And then you realize, no, that's the best party to be at.
So they eventually come back.
This isn't necessarily in defense of the people that jump shipped after January 6th.
I think it's more of a, let's respect the people that understood it.
Because what happened with January 6th, I think the people that weren't on the ground and weren't involved with it and didn't really...
Do too much analytical research, or maybe even high-horsed the people that were involved.
They just said, oh, wow.
I mean, certainly some element of this is true.
They wanted to overthrow the government.
They went in.
And I think they kind of bought into some of that as the reality.
And so they were like, okay, I don't want to be a part of this anymore.
I'm going to completely separate myself.
But I think that, and maybe I am giving them a little too much credit, but I think it was just more of the fact that they just, they weren't there.
They weren't involved with it.
And so they didn't really understand the dynamics of what led up to that day.
nick fuentes
No, but what led up to that day was that they stole the election, which they did.
We had the great economy.
He was sailing to a re-election.
They shut everything down.
That was the initial rigging, was shutting everything down.
Then it was a summer of love with George Floyd.
Then it was the mail-in ballots, which were 70% of the votes.
They were 35% in 2016.
Then they were 70% of all the votes in 2020.
owen shroyer
And it was right in the counties they needed them.
Exactly.
nick fuentes
So I just don't buy that.
They weren't ride or die.
They were not ride or die with Trump.
They were not loyal to him all the way.
They weren't loyal to him in the four years.
And it's even happening now.
It's happening now when Trump is trying to do his trade agenda, trying to do his defense agenda, trying to do immigration agenda.
And half the cabinet's not on board.
They're not on board with a protectionist economy.
They want to use tariffs to get a trade deal.
They don't want to bring American manufacturing back.
And the same is half the cabinet's pushing for a war with Iran.
Rubio.
owen shroyer
Did you see the Hegseth news today?
I did, yeah.
I think Hegseth is truly anti-war.
nick fuentes
I don't think he knows what's up.
I think he's sloppy.
He's got good people on his side.
I don't trust him, though.
owen shroyer
Well, they tried to remove the good people, and then he basically, I mean, honestly, what Hegseth did today is like the biggest swamp drain I've seen.
He flushed a toilet today.
nick fuentes
Well, we'll see if he survives.
I think he's trying to save it.
owen shroyer
I mean, Susan Rice went around the bowl.
nick fuentes
Right.
owen shroyer
Down into the plumbing.
nick fuentes
But she should have never been there.
owen shroyer
Of course not!
nick fuentes
They sacrificed Dan Caldwell, Darren Selvick.
owen shroyer
I wonder if they'll be back after that today.
nick fuentes
I hope so.
Yeah, maybe.
owen shroyer
That would be a major telltale if that ends up happening.
nick fuentes
You're right.
I'd be very optimistic if that happened.
owen shroyer
I look at them attacking Hegseth, and Trump says, nope, we're totally behind him.
And I think Hegseth was like, oh, okay, well.
I'm going forward.
nick fuentes
I think you might be right.
Maybe you saw the Tucker appearance.
Because Caldwell went on Tucker and kind of explained it.
owen shroyer
Alright, Nick Fuentes, he's got a jump.
Where can people follow you?
nick fuentes
Rumble.com slash NickJFuentes and I'm on Twitter as well.
owen shroyer
There you go.
Nick Fuentes, great time.
Enjoy Texas while you're here.
And until next time, keep up the good work.
Keep angering people because you're really good at that.
I don't think you try to do that.
nick fuentes
I don't.
But people get mad.
owen shroyer
People are sensitive, man.
They're too sensitive.
All right, I've got to do my duty here, and we do have some other news and video clips, but this is the last Friday of the month, and I want to let some veterans get through here.
We always throw our appreciation behind the veterans on the last Friday of the month, but we had that long interview with Nick in studio.
And he was here earlier on the Jones Show, so we kind of, and then I covered the news in the first hour.
But we're going to squeeze in some veterans' calls.
If any veterans want to call in, let's put the number on the screen.
Just let us know what branch you are out of, what state you're in, and we'll get you up and on the air.
I guess we'll just say open lines to the vets.
If any vet wants to call in on anything or what we've discussed today, the lines are open for you.
877-789-2539-877.
So if any veterans want to call in today, this is your show to call in.
We cut your time a little short.
I apologize.
But we're going to give you some time here at the end of the transmission if you do want to call in.
I know we do have a report from Alex coming up as well.
So I'm going to get the time on that so I can kind of manage the last 23 minutes of today's transmission.
And then a lot of this stuff in the video list and on the news, we can probably just delay.
Nothing too much breaking.
We do have a story at Infowars right now, and there might be a video.
This might be what Alex just shot a report on.
The leader of the Democrat Party in Florida has just left the Democrat Party and declared it dead.
You know, the Democrat Party is already kind of like a zombie, really.
I declared the Democrat Party dead after Hillary Clinton, but it was like a zombie.
It came back to life.
And mostly that's the Republicans that did that.
The Republicans are like, really, the Republicans are kind of giving Democrats life, I would say, because they don't do anything.
And that's why I continue to believe that if you don't have mass deportations, you lose the midterms.
And if you're not going to do it that way, you're going to have to have something.
The Republicans have to give their voters something, some reason to get out and vote.
Because the Democrats will.
They'll make something up if they have to.
Don't think the midterms are an assured victory.
I would say you need mass deportations, maybe even mass arrests, or at least one of the two.
Give Republicans reason to be excited to vote.
Otherwise, I think you lose the House, and then, of course, we know what happens next.
They'll impeach Trump and do whatever they can to just disrupt the administration.
So that's what's going on.
By the way, isn't it ironic the man-made climate change that the Democrats talk about all the time, but then when Bill Gates wants to blot out the sun, and now in Europe, they're apparently going to start the experiments.
Hey, I got news for you.
They've already been running the experience.
They've already been blotting out the sun for years.
That's the real man-made climate change.
So that's the irony of the whole thing.
But I guess since the Trump administration decided they didn't want to go along with this plan, that now they're just going to do it in Europe instead.
My goodness, hasn't Europe suffered enough under the globalists?
Hasn't Europe been destroyed enough under the globalists?
So now they're going to be blocking you from getting access to the sun.
The physical representation of the life giver.
They just hate life, these demons, man.
They just absolutely hate life.
It's unbelievable, isn't it?
Apparently now Star Wars is going to make more political messages.
Disney's latest Star Wars spinoff depicts rape of undocumented migrant by an Imperial officer.
Oh, jeez, I wonder what they're trying to depict there.
They just can't help themselves.
Can you imagine taking that franchise and destroying it in the name of liberalism?
So it's like the old Star Wars movies will always be good, and then the second wave were pretty good, too.
But then, like...
The third wave, and they weren't bad, but then the final message was all just leftist, liberalism, feminism.
Just destroyed, just destroyed the golden goose.
Oh, really?
The crew says they think this is a conservative message?
I don't think that's what they're depicting, but the crew is in my ear saying it's depicting how all the migrants are getting raped on their way into the open border.
Well, I guess we'll wait and see.
I guess I'm kind of going against my own standards here, which I don't like to comment on any cinema that I haven't seen myself.
But I don't really intend on watching it anyway.
I'm not sure they've done anything good with Star Wars.
Real quick, before we take a couple calls from vets, let me just do this.
Guys, do we have the Jones report?
unidentified
We have the Jones report.
owen shroyer
Okay, okay.
How long is this video?
alex jones
All right.
owen shroyer
Democrat Party is dead.
Florida Democrat Senate leader leaves party.
Here it is.
unidentified
There'll be a caucus meeting later this afternoon where I hope that the members of the Democratic caucus will elect a new leader.
For today, I FedExed my voter registration form to change my party affiliation to no party affiliation.
Guys, I'm excited for this.
This makes me happy and clean and clear.
And here's the issue.
The Democratic Party in Florida is dead.
That's the truth.
The party that my dad volunteered for in JFK when he was 18 years old in 1960 is not the party today.
It craves and screams anarchy and then demands amnesty.
That's not okay.
owen shroyer
You know, here's where we're at.
Again, the Democrat Party has been dead since Hillary Clinton.
The problem is the Republican Party is not finishing the job.
It's like in Mortal Kombat.
When the opponent is out and you're supposed to do the fatality move.
And they just won't do it.
So they just let the Democrats kind of hobble along like zombies and they just refuse to finish this party off.
This finish, this party should be gone.
This party should have been gone with Hillary Clinton getting thrown into the back of a van like a sack of meat.
But the Republicans just don't do anything.
That's why I see this today.
I see this from Hegseth today.
I see Bondi showing a pulse, arresting these judges, and I'm like, okay, now the machine is moving.
Now the finishing moves on the Democrat Party can be made.
And they have to be done.
You cannot let this Democrat Party come back into power, folks.
You cannot do it.
And if, I mean, look.
As a mere survival instinct, it would be impossible for any rational conservative, if the Democrats win in 2028, the presidency or the House and the Senate or all three, if the thought that,
hey, I got to leave the country for my own good doesn't come to your mind, then you don't understand what you're dealing with.
unidentified
I mean, I don't want to leave America.
owen shroyer
Of course not.
And I doubt I would, but, I mean, if the Democrats got back into power, of course that thought would come into my mind.
Of course it would.
Because I have a survival instinct.
And I won't be the only one that thinks it.
It's not going to be like some liberal, like, oh, I'm leaving the country now, oh, Trump, and then they go live in some mansion in Europe just because they want to.
No, it's like, I don't want to go back to prison for life, for my politics, for my speech.
I don't want to get sued.
And have them take everything I own, everything I've earned.
All right.
So just, the Democrats are out.
They're there.
Hobbled like at the end of a Mortal Kombat fight, but the Republicans just refuse to make the fatality move.
Do it.
They're literally involved in human trafficking.
This is a joke.
I mean, for God's sakes, do we have to go back to the WikiLeaks emails from 2016?
I mean, jeez, man.
And they're still there?
Still hobbling around like a zombie because the Republicans just refuse to take them down.
All right.
Politically.
All right.
Let's take some calls now from our great veterans.
Let's go to Robert.
Let's go to Robert.
Army veteran in Florida, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, man.
For us guys that have been listening since 96, great format, everything.
But, gang, we don't need...
Five hours of a little guy on there.
And I did love how Alex came in and kind of mocked everything because he's trying to show the kids.
But really, you're smarter than that.
Or maybe that's your demographic.
But I felt like I wasted...
I always wasted time listening to him all over again after you've already heard him for two hours.
owen shroyer
Well, look, let me just give you an honest response to what you're saying.
When we have guests in studio, we usually just try to get them on all the shows just for respect of their time.
I didn't even know Nick was going to be in here today.
I found out he was coming on the show probably about 3 o 'clock or so.
Now, I think we had a good conversation with Nick.
I think it was a good segment.
I understand where you're coming from.
I mean, quite frankly, typically, if I was a program director, I wouldn't do that.
But, again, we bring people in studio.
We want to make sure it's worth it for their time.
And so that's just kind of how it goes.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm not the program director.
But you know what?
Your complaint's been filed, and so there it is.
All right.
Thank you for the call.
Let's go to...
But see, but now everybody wants to call in and talk about Fuentes.
So it's like...
Half the callers on the board want to talk about it.
Which, I mean, quite frankly, again, if I was the program director, I would say, yeah, you're not tuning in for five hours of Fuentes if you're listening to InfoWars, but then I see people calling in wanting to talk about it.
I'm like, well, gee, I guess there's something there.
But let's just move on.
Let's go to Jennifer, Army veteran in Maryland.
Jennifer, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi.
Yeah, I wanted to talk.
I'm also an Army veteran.
I also work for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Back in 22, I was homeless in Baltimore because of drug addiction.
I almost died because of fentanyl.
And now I'm working at the very place that I was in recovery.
I see people every day.
Probably 20 people I've been in recovery with have died in the last two years that I'm aware of.
Probably more, you know, that have cycled through.
These people recycle through so many times, you know.
Because the VA wants to pump everybody full of medication.
You know, they were calling me today, you know, come get your prescription.
I said, I don't want that stuff.
But they're pumping everybody with these prescriptions.
You're doped up.
You know, they don't diagnose you correctly.
I mean, they're wanting to give me stuff that, you know, is for schizophrenic people.
I'm not schizophrenic.
You know, I have addiction problems, yes, but I'm not schizophrenic, you know?
And it's just, it's out of control.
You know, and I enjoy being, working for the VA.
You know, they help keep me clean.
You know, the people that I surround myself with, they help keep me clean.
The new people that are coming in, trying to do the right thing and, you know, get into a program, some kind of a program.
But when they're pumping these people full of pills and I can see them like zombies walking down the hallway, that was me just a couple years ago.
owen shroyer
And, you know, that's part of the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
And it's not something I think is exclusive to the VA.
I think that that happens at a lot of hospitals with a lot of different people.
You see a lot of it because, you know, the veterans go in there and maybe they need some sort of, you know, mental help.
Psychiatric help, and so they just pump them full of pills.
And, you know, I'm not saying there's one solution for everything, but it's like, you know, maybe find a way to make them feel a purpose in life again.
Maybe find a way to make them feel valued again.
And maybe that would help it instead of just pumping them full of drugs.
And so I think that that's an issue with the big pharmaceutical industrial complex that hopefully takes a big hit.
With RFK Jr. now at HHS.
Jennifer, thank you for sharing that story.
Let's go to Doug, Navy veteran in South Dakota.
Doug, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, I just wanted to get your take on the fact that we're, what, 90 days into this administration and they have not taken the COVID mRNA vaccine off the market.
Yeah.
Literally, I thought he would do it.
On day one.
owen shroyer
Well, you thought Trump would do it?
unidentified
Yeah, I did.
I thought he would do it on day one.
owen shroyer
I wouldn't anticipate that.
Look, Trump's black eye is the COVID vaccine and Operation Warp Speed.
And, you know, I could justify it.
I could say there is no justifying of it.
But the reality is, I don't think he's going to smash that egg on his forehead and do that.
As the person that brought it in.
So I just don't see that happening.
Now, RFK Jr. said he was thinking about removing it from the childhood vaccine list with the CDC, which should obviously be done.
But, you know, it's probably just going to take these lawsuits in the court to get justice for the people that were damaged by the vaccines.
I don't think the Trump administration is going to go very far with that, to be honest.
unidentified
Let me ask you this.
Do you think that that makes a statement
Trump's character, that he's willing to literally let people die?
Because people are still taking that.
People are taking their kids in and getting them injected with that stuff.
Still, today.
And he knows that it's killed millions of people.
And he's not.
Do you think that makes a statement about his character?
owen shroyer
Well, it really doesn't matter what I think.
I would say, again, I think that he's acting, whether it's for personal character things or for...
Political reasons, he's making decisions for that.
Is it excusable?
You've got to make your mind up about that.
But if you're asking me, I mean, it's his biggest blemish.
There's no doubt about it.
And maybe there is, if you're talking about the character aspect, maybe there's an element of fear.
I mean, maybe there's an element of fear that it comes back at him.
So, but there are people that are telling him that.
He asks some of his friends, he says, why do they boo me about the vaccine?
And they tell him straight up.
So, he's aware of it, but I don't know.
I mean, do you want to say how you feel about it?
I guess we must have lost him.
Oh, there you are.
Go ahead.
unidentified
No, I think it says a lot about his character.
I really do.
I don't know how...
I think if I was in that situation and I knew that people were giving this stuff to their children and it was going to end up making them sterile or killing them, that I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
Literally, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night with a guilt.
And I just...
I can't fathom being willing to let people ingest a toxic substance because my pride is getting in the way.
And I guess maybe it is more than pride.
He might end up losing the election next election.
owen shroyer
Well, and I guess the other thing I would say, Doug, and I thank you for the call.
I don't want to get caught in this trap that the left tries to put us in.
Not that what you're saying isn't fair or legitimate.
It's just I don't want to get caught into this trap.
Where they start pointing out, they say, oh, well, what about his character?
Well, I'm not electing a guy for his character.
I'm electing a guy for his politics and his policies.
And so, not to say that you don't evaluate the character when you're making a decision, but it's like, I don't want to get bogged down in this character assessment and then not make the right choice politically for who I vote for.
Look, it's never going to go away.
It's a permanent stain on his legacy as a politician is that vaccine.
I mean, yeah, that's a tough one.
There's no doubt.
That's a tough one to justify and defend.
There's no doubt about it.
Can't really do it.
Other than to just say he's made up his mind and for whatever reason he's not going to talk about it.
He's not going to demonize it.
He's not going to make a big thing about it.
And so let's see.
Let's see what happens with RFK Jr.
If you're going to have any hopes, that would be where they come from.
I did see they finally started making moves to reinstate some of the military that lost their jobs for refusal of taking the vaccine.
But that's a separate issue.
Let's go to Nikki, Army veteran.
Nikki, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, I was just calling to get your take on These Democrats that are stepping down, how much do you think it has to do with this?
I think it's David Hogg offering up all this money.
owen shroyer
Well, so you just brought that up.
Give me a minute here to respond and then you can comment.
So Bernie Sanders is no doubt either giving his political capital to AOC.
Or thinking about running himself.
Now, I think he'd be 85 or something when he ran.
But now, I guess with Trump, he'll be 80 when he's done.
So maybe they just don't even think about that age anymore.
Or figure the voters don't.
So Bernie is either giving it one last gas and he's going to run for president.
Or he's going to do this to do a revenge tour on the Democrats that stole the nominations from him.
And then he's going to give all his political capital to AOC.
To either defeat Chuck Schumer or run for president in 2028.
So that's going on and there's some other developments with Bernie Sanders even calling out how the rich got richer under Joe Biden.
But here's the situation with David Hogg.
The DNC has now scolded him.
DNC gives David Hogg an ultimatum.
And so they basically told him that you can either step down from your vice chair at the DNC or you can go and you can do fundraising for these Political candidates.
So now the Democrat establishment has told Hogg, you're not going to use the Democrat Party to make the Democrat representation farther left than it already is.
So he's already been smacked down.
Now, he's got a nice cushy position there, so he may just decide to take the slap on the wrist and stick around and sit down and shut up, or he will leave and then continue this far-left takeover of the Democrat Party.
Now, as far as the people stepping down like Dick Durbin, does it have to do with him primarying them?
On the Dick Durbin case, I don't think so.
He basically came out and said, I'm too old for this now.
So you can believe him or not.
I mean, he is a known liar.
But it'll be more on a case-by-case basis.
If there's a Democrat that fears they could lose, then they might just step down.
But they're already trying to put that fire out.
With this recent threat of Hogg's position with the Democrat Party.
unidentified
Well, I appreciate your insight.
owen shroyer
Absolutely.
Thank you for calling.
unidentified
Yep.
Gonna miss the info.
owen shroyer
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You know, don't take anything we do here for granted, folks.
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And like I said, when Alex comes in here, I just can't think about it.
I just can't because I won't be able to do a show.
I won't be able to come on here and be effective if I'm thinking about it all the time.
So I just try not to.
And it's not like I'm trying to avoid the reality of it.
It's just I get three hours a day and if you're going to spend your time with me, I want to make it worth your time.
And if I can't be effective because I'm thinking about it all the time, then I can't do it.
But, hey, you know, hopefully we'll be here Monday and we'll get to do it all again.
It'll be great.
All right, quickly, Rich, Army veteran, Michigan, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen, what's happening, brother?
owen shroyer
Howdy.
unidentified
Yeah, so, hey, I just want to say thank you for, I enjoy listening to you.
I've been listening to Alex for years, but, you know, when you came on, I've seen you grow and come on the show and have your own show and do all that stuff, so I really appreciate you.
Yeah, and everything you went through.
You're one tough son of an SOB, so it's good.
I appreciate you.
But one thing as far as the Democrats, we've got to put that finishing move on them for sure.
They've got to go.
But what drives me nuts is how everybody just keeps covering it.
Covering all the stupid stuff they do instead of covering the stuff that we're doing.
All the right things that the conservatives are doing to make forward, make progress, and go after these people.
I know we've got to highlight what they do, but...
Like, I've turned on Fox News.
It's the only thing you can do.
It's even tolerable on regular TV.
And that's all we're doing.
I can't even watch it anymore.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, and I would just say this in closing, Rich.
I'm out of time.
That's why now, really, this is a whole thing, but the woke left is dead.
Because the left is really dead.
They have no power and nobody wants to talk about, you know, these trans issues and other garbage anymore.
It's like we want to talk about real issues that we're dealing with since we're in power.
That does it for the show.
We will see you Monday.
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