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The silent majority is no longer silent.
This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer.
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We return you now to your regularly scheduled program.
owen shroyer
Well, Kyle Serafin on the Alex Jones Show earlier today was so great.
And I said, I gotta get him on my show.
I gotta follow up.
They're talking about the Epstein files.
They're talking about Operation Hurricane.
I guess when you guys were live, That's when Will Scharf came into the meeting and delivered those documents to Trump.
That's Trump's press secretary, not Caroline Levitt, but his personal secretary.
And, I mean, that was big breaking news.
And then the terabyte situation, I want to continue to kind of grind into the information that you have with that.
And then kind of just get into the weeds of the investigative process.
Like, how does this all go?
You know, with your background at the FBI, you kind of can give people a little more idea of how this all goes.
Also today, we're going to talk about some other big breaking news.
Like, what is Congress trying to do?
What is Speaker Johnson trying to do?
Or Trump maybe calling the shots here to eliminate federal courts?
That's kind of a crazy thing to hear.
kyle seraphin
This is the no rogue thing?
owen shroyer
Well, they're trying to find ways, and I can see what they're doing.
They're trying to find different ways to get around these corrupt judges, right?
I mean...
It is a process that you have to find.
It's like, oh, hey, they're in their zone defense.
Okay, so we're going to run this offense now to try to effectively beat the zone defense.
So you had Josh Hawley in Missouri.
He's come out and he's filed legislation.
They've also tried to make it so that they can't do these national injunctions anymore.
kyle seraphin
From the district level.
Yes. Yeah, and I think it makes perfect sense.
In fact, I think the Constitution backs that up based on just the words of Article 3. So we could talk on that all day.
owen shroyer
Well, what's so crazy, though, this is the most frustrating part of it.
And from somebody who's just, you know, I'm just at the news desk out of patience with all of it.
But what's so crazy is you look at this and it's just like these judges are just, I mean, to me, they're breaking the law.
They're aiding and abetting.
That is a crime.
But they are supporting lawbreakers.
I mean, that's not even really.
That's not opinion.
kyle seraphin
They're advocates, right?
They're not acting as an umpire.
I gave the analogy the other day.
I think this is actually a pretty good one.
You ever play baseball?
Yeah. Okay, so you've got a pitcher.
You've got a catcher.
I used to be the catcher.
So you're sitting down there.
You've got the glove out, right?
You've got the legs spread, and you're given the sign.
What kind of pitch?
Throw me a fastball.
Throw me the change up.
You might have a couple of signs so the guy who's trying to read it from third base can't see it.
Okay? Now imagine if the umpire leaned in and just told you what pitch he had to throw.
What happens is, especially with this thing with the Alien Enemies Act, you've got a judge that is now telling you how to do your job.
He's not calling balls and strikes.
He's literally trying to call the pitch and the way you get to do it.
And I went back and read it.
I read the Alien Enemies Act, where a lot of this stuff came out.
Like, have we been seeing activist judges for a while?
Like, for sure.
Yeah, we definitely have, right?
But when you have the umpire that's going to lean in and tell you the play, they're going to try to lean in and actually make it.
Imagine if the referee on a basketball game decided to jump and do a tip-in.
Yeah. You can't do that.
You can't go and play for any team.
owen shroyer
You're supposed to be partial.
It's like you can't even throw a strike.
It's like you could throw everything right down the plate and the ump's just going to go ball, ball, ball, ball.
kyle seraphin
Yeah. If we see obvious bias, and here's where I get into the actual verbiage that is in Article 3, which describes what these courts are.
There's only one court that's described specifically, and it doesn't even name it, but Article 3 sets up the Supreme Court that we have today.
And then it has the actual verbiage is inferior courts.
That word seems really important to me.
I don't know.
I just read what it means in there.
And they've got 250 years of case law.
Inferior courts that are established by Congress from time to time.
The transient nature of that court.
Seems very obvious to me.
We act like these institutions can never be touched, can never be altered, that they have to be obeyed, that some guy who's in the Southern District of Texas or some guy that's in the District of D.C., which is barely America, having worked there for five years, it's just not.
It's not very American.
Then you've got this situation where this guy's going to come in and tell you what the entire country can do.
owen shroyer
That's crazy.
kyle seraphin
It's absolutely absurd.
owen shroyer
Do you think the Trump administration even looks at this as like, we want to avoid the Supreme Court because...
We're not so sure we win there.
kyle seraphin
The danger of the Supreme Court is that you've got John Roberts there who does one thing very, very well.
He protects the integrity and the strength of the Supreme Court.
They are all about institution and they are slightly less about Constitution when it comes down to it.
And now that's what they should actually do.
owen shroyer
And now Coney Barrett's voting record is like, is she really even conservative?
I don't know.
We've got some internal FBI drama.
Yeah, some internal FBI drama from FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin.
Would you ever go back?
You've got a nice thing going.
You like to talk.
kyle seraphin
I like to talk, and I don't want someone to put the...
owen shroyer
You've got your family.
You've got a nice situation now in Texas.
kyle seraphin
Here's the terms under which I would go back.
Are you ready?
Because it's real specific.
There has to be an achievable mission that I can look at and say, yes, I can do that.
Someone has to tell me, you're the guy that can do it, and nobody else is the right guy, or we think you're the right guy for the following reasons, and a personal ask to come and do it, because I don't really want to go work for anybody else at this point.
I get to work for me.
I get to say what I think.
I say whatever I want.
I'm accountable to myself.
I get to hang out with my kids first thing in the morning, which is awesome.
owen shroyer
Here's a question for you, and it's a little bit different since you actually came from the FBI.
You've actually done the work at the FBI before, and we're going to get into some of your expertise here with some of this breaking news.
But it's like, for me, I have people that will come to me every so often.
In fact, it just happened last night, and they'll say, hey, why don't you run for office?
Or why don't you get involved in Republican Party politics?
Usually I like to go with my instincts with stuff like this, and it turns out right.
But sometimes you kind of just go against your instincts just to see, right?
Just to jump in the water and just see what it's like.
kyle seraphin
Somebody recommended it and that person.
owen shroyer
So I did it.
I followed up with that.
It was probably like 2019 or 2020 or something.
I forget the exact time, but I think it was 2020 or it might have been the midterms, 2018.
And I got involved in Travis County GOP stuff.
I got pretty popular.
I went to some meetings.
People liked me.
Some of the big local donors were like, oh, I really like what you had to say at this meeting.
And then the GOP establishment basically booted me, literally kicked me out of meetings.
I was like, okay, I'm not going to waste my time.
I'm not going to fight this.
I'm more effective on air.
I think I do more effective work on air.
The reason I ask you that, do you think from where you're at, are you doing more effective work now than you were at the FBI based off your podcast, your social media?
I mean, maybe that could change if you went back, but do you understand what I'm asking?
kyle seraphin
I do.
I think that what I'm doing now is more satisfying in many ways.
It's certainly got more creativity.
It's much more quick-paced.
I'm the only person that tells me that I can't go to work or that I have to go to work is me, so that's big.
When I was in the Bureau, it's like you're slowed down by all kinds of things, including the process, which is sometimes convoluted to the point where you can't even understand what the hell you're even being asked to do.
I just would say this.
How many people knew...
What specifically things meant inside the FBI before someone came out and translated it and knew it from a position of the FBI came after me and my family, which they did.
They made my wife, who was pregnant, homeless.
They made my other three children homeless.
They took our salary and our paycheck, our ability to earn a living.
And so it's like...
I'm kind of like, I'm not a scorned lover because I'm still really, really fair and balanced.
I think I will not say things that are false.
It actually gets me enemies.
I managed to upset Dan Bongino, who's now the deputy director of the FBI.
owen shroyer
I've witnessed the fights you pick.
kyle seraphin
I literally will fight to the death about things about what is true.
Some things are not negotiable.
They are written in black and white, and you just can't debate them.
Your perspective is irrelevant.
And people put me in the position of having to defend the FBI on occasion, and I'll do it.
I don't like it.
Well, I think more people have learned more things from what I've done since I've come out than anything I could have solved while I was working as a case agent in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
I mean, I went from this.
You want to talk about what a coup looks like?
This is a coup.
I went from being a guy who worked in an office that was a subset of a larger office in New Mexico, which some people don't even know is an American state.
Literally took the job in Las Cruces, New Mexico and had guys in Washington, D.C. go, is that an OCONUS post?
In other words, are you being posted overseas?
I go, no, Las Cruces is in New Mexico.
And they said, is that America?
And I don't know if they were joking.
owen shroyer
This is not good.
I hope they were liberals.
kyle seraphin
I mean, we're in D.C., so it could go either way, right?
So I said, no, I'm going to New Mexico, which is an American state, and I'm going to go work Indian crimes, apparently.
I'm going to go work criminal.
And they went, oh, okay, cool.
And then I went there.
I went from doing probably the least important work that anyone could ever say.
Maybe important to the people I talk to, but certainly not on a national level.
The Mescalero Apache Indian Reservation is not a national priority to anyone, not even the people that live there, okay?
That's what I was doing.
I was doing, like, death investigations for people that hung themselves and people that overdosed and, like, car fires and stuff and some arson cases.
So that's what I'm working.
And from there, two years later...
I'm advising and giving information on how the FBI works from an inside FBI, like Washington, D.C. perspective, from a case agent perspective, which is important.
That's where the actual work gets done.
owen shroyer
Yeah, the process.
kyle seraphin
To the man who is now sitting in the director's chair.
And I was doing interviews.
owen shroyer
That was the documentary.
What was the name of that documentary?
kyle seraphin
We were in Police State.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Police State.
kyle seraphin
So this is with Dinesh D'Souza.
So I choreographed all the action scenes so it looked real.
owen shroyer
Well, I kind of like, you know, I actually enjoy, how would I say it?
Physical. I like physical politics.
You're a contrarian.
kyle seraphin
You like to mix it up.
owen shroyer
Well, it's not only that.
To me, there's attitude and there's process.
When you cover James O'Keefe videos or O'Keefe Media Group and you say, hey, here's the perspective from an FBI director.
Here's what you're missing.
Here's what you're not.
I see that, and I like contact politics.
But I also understand the attitude where I'm like, eh, F it.
Like, if this is going to hurt the deep state or whatever and O'Keefe maybe has to massage the story, I'm like, hey, I'm okay with that.
But I like you going in there and showing it.
That's what I like, is getting into the process with you or somebody like Myron Gaines, who's actually been there, knows the process, where you can kind of learn it and then understand other things better, like how to apply the process to other things, like the things that are breaking today.
And so the two stories that are really breaking today, and you kind of broke it earlier, and you've...
You kind of broke this before, too, about the Epstein files and then the crossfire hurricane developments today.
And so I'm thinking, well, what is the process here, right?
What is the process?
You talk about 14 terabytes of information.
And so obviously a lot of that is going to be videos.
I mean, that's what takes up terabytes.
kyle seraphin
I'm guessing that some of the stuff is not.
owen shroyer
What could take up terabytes if it's not videos?
kyle seraphin
I don't know.
So it could be audio files.
I guess it could be video if that's where they think it is.
owen shroyer
Even audio compressed is very small.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, you're not going to make that accessible.
Yeah, but you're assuming some things.
Let's just say, I told Alex this earlier, but when we talk about...
owen shroyer
We're talking like hours of like an undercover audio?
kyle seraphin
On top of that, we're also talking about the FBI, which is basically the most inefficient computer system that you've ever heard of.
So imagine if you didn't know how to do any compression.
I remember I got...
I got a handful of paper documents, right?
We can make a PDF with, let's say, a thousand pages on it.
We could shrink that down to like, you know, a couple hundred megabytes tops.
One CD.
Easy. Yeah.
Right? Yeah.
I got like five DVDs from the FBI, and it was literally only a couple hundred pages.
Yeah. Because they're so bad at technology.
The motto, and this is not a joke.
This is very real internal FBI nonsense.
We would always say that the FBI's IT program motto is yesterday's technology, tomorrow.
owen shroyer
Yeah, maybe that's why they can't figure out how to mail my passport and cell phones back.
kyle seraphin
This is exactly why.
owen shroyer
They don't even know how to put a stamp on a box.
kyle seraphin
It is massively inefficient.
We're talking about a government system that doesn't...
It's not run like InfoWars is run.
You guys are on a shoestream budget.
You've got really nice stuff.
You've got cool equipment.
You've got good lighting.
But at the end of the day, I've been inside Fox Studios that probably cost the same amount as your whole building, right?
Like one little studio they might do because you guys are trying to do the most with the least.
When you look at what the federal government does, they do the least with the most, and they don't actually care how it gets done because nobody is accountable.
Nobody sits there and goes like, oh, did you make a good decision here?
Great example.
My buddy Steve Friend said they needed more toner because they were printing off a lot of documents.
And he was like, we need more toner.
And they were like, sorry, end of year, we don't have the budget for it.
But they also had the budget.
owen shroyer
And toner's not cheap, I guess.
kyle seraphin
But the same people that didn't have the budget for like $35 a cartridge for toner for the printer so they could do black and white stuff that they're going to hand out, they also happened to have the budget in a different pot of money for a $35,000 Razor side-by-side.
So they bought a UTV with no garage to park it in and no discernible mission.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that's like an off-road four-wheeler, isn't it?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
kyle seraphin
Like a $35,000, very cool.
owen shroyer
Yeah, very fun.
kyle seraphin
Like a tool for riding around.
owen shroyer
Very agile.
kyle seraphin
So they bought that, but they couldn't buy toner.
We got $35,000 for this off-road vehicle, but we don't have $70 or $80 for toner.
Because it's just not smart.
It's not run like you would think a business.
If you think about government, it just doesn't make sense.
owen shroyer
So let's talk about the process with the Epstein files.
And I guess I'm trying to put it all into perspective.
kyle seraphin
I don't know what those terabytes are.
That's the best part.
owen shroyer
That's what I'm thinking.
When I turned in, we had to turn in a bunch of stuff for my January 6th case.
And I think the final file with all of our security video was about...
It was more than a terabyte.
I don't remember what it was, but it was more than a terabyte.
We had to get a separate hard drive thing that was a two-terabyte thing just to fit it all on that and then give it to me, the lawyers, the U.S. attorneys, everything.
But that was a lot of video, right?
I mean, that was hours of video.
kyle seraphin
Sure. And you compress it the way a grown-up would.
owen shroyer
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, that...
Now imagine you're digitizing VHS.
But let's talk about the process.
Okay, so the Epstein...
Epstein gets brought in, I think it was 2017, 2018.
We saw the raids on the New York penthouse.
We saw the raids on Epstein Island.
Okay. All that evidence.
Where does it go?
Who processes it?
Because Epstein died in prison, so the case kind of got shut.
They went after Maxwell for some separate stuff, but the Epstein evidence didn't really go into that.
So where are we at as far as the process with that evidence from Epstein dying?
kyle seraphin
Okay, so first we have to decide what is the case, where is the case living?
What field office runs the case?
Where are the case managers and the case agents?
And as far as I know, they're out of New York.
That's what we've been led to believe.
And they were working with Southern District of New York, so that's what you got.
So, what happens is, somebody flies to Epstein Island, somebody goes to the ranch in New Mexico, somebody goes to the penthouse in New York, the nexus is New York, maybe they've got the extra, I think they have the...
I don't know if they have the extra territorial space for Epstein Island, but it doesn't really matter.
If that's where the original case was opened, then they're going to funnel it all into there, and they're going to bring the physical evidence there, and they will book it into evidence at whatever the federal building is.
I can't remember what the address is anymore, in New York City.
So that's where it would end up going.
And then they might have an off-site, that's what they call it, like places where they hold on to physical evidence that they need to catalog it.
These are like, they're not probably very interesting looking, they're not Raiders of the Ark looking of warehouses, but some government place where they can physically put the stuff in.
And there's a whole process through that.
If it's digital evidence, there's a process called Elsher, electronic.
I think it stands for electronic surveillance.
But they take all the electronic files and they book those in so you can have those and they can make them accessible either to case agents, to anybody in the Bureau, or to nobody.
They can actually silo these things at different levels.
owen shroyer
If there's an agent that has interest in it, can they just go in and get it?
kyle seraphin
No, that's a really good way to get fired.
So let's say you're just a guy who works, let's say you're working in San Francisco.
owen shroyer
I'm not getting in there, or I'm getting fired.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, everybody knows this.
To the point where, if you go looking for problems, like, so, for example, my buddy Garrett O'Boyle, he's a whistleblower.
One of the things he did is he said, I'm fairly confident that the FBI has done something.
And so he actually went looking for, because he had seen the news cycle, and he knew that the FBI had certain cases into Project Veritas.
He made a reference to James O'Keefe.
This actually directly relates to what we did.
One of the things that happened was he was like, well, I wonder what that case is.
And so he went looking for it, knowing that there was malfeasance in other places.
owen shroyer
This is the targeting case?
kyle seraphin
This is when they went after him because of the Ashley Biden diary, okay?
And so by looking at the actual, not opening the file, by the way, because it was restricted, looking at the opening of the file, they actually flagged his account as one of the people who looked at the opening of the file.
And what it had was, man, I think I've got this stuff.
owen shroyer
So you leave a fingerprint.
unidentified
You leave a fingerprint on anything you touch in the system.
kyle seraphin
I'm trying to see if I have this stuff from Chase.
The actual file is like, it literally is a couple of names on who runs the case.
It's the case number without even the name of who the case is on, and then some contact information, and then maybe a list of some subfiles.
That's pretty much it.
It's a cover sheet, and that's what you can see if it's restricted.
Epstein would definitely be restricted just because of the high priority.
So if you went looking for it, one.
Somebody in the FBI knows you went looking for it.
So that's not a great idea for you.
And the second thing is, is that you're not going to get anything out of it.
You're just going to find out who the case manager is.
But let's say you were looking for a good reason.
Let's say you're like, hey, I think I have something that touches Epstein.
I had an interview.
I had a source come and report that they had some contact with.
So I want to find out who's running that case.
Yeah, you could go look it up.
owen shroyer
You got to get that permission.
kyle seraphin
You type in Jeffrey Epstein and Sentinel, which is the actual software that you're using on your FBI classified conterminal.
So it goes up to including secret.
You type in the name.
And it would go into the search parameters, and it would pop up anything that showed Jeffrey Epstein at all, including, like, who are these case files?
You'd click on a hyperlink that would say the case number out of New York.
That would open up a page that would show restriction, and it would have the case agents' names in there and the case participants and anybody that would know anything about it.
You could reach them up and call them up, or you could email them or whatever.
So that's a way that you might have a reason to do it.
We call it having a nexus.
You have to have like an authorized law enforcement purpose to go there.
And if you don't have it, there's the piece.
Your guys are awesome.
That little piece, that's pretty much what you would see.
It's like all blanked out.
You won't see anything there if you go in and you don't have access or permissions to be able to be part of the file.
owen shroyer
Okay, so there's like layers here.
There's layers of access.
They can remove, like overlay when you get the access.
kyle seraphin
And the case agent decides that, by the way.
So they decide how restricted it would be.
So if I go, okay, let's say I'm investigating Owen Troyer.
That'd be a thing.
And I say, he's a member of the media.
So I'm going to consider him a sensitive investigative matter, as determined by the Diog.
The Diog is the rulebook on how we play it.
So I'm opening the case on you, and I'm going to determine that you are a sim.
Same thing it did to Project Veritas, by the way.
And then your name is not going to appear when they go searching for it.
But if I searched Owen Schroer inside the system, your case would pop up, but it wouldn't say that it was your case.
It would just have the file number.
And then it would be January 6th nonsense or whatever.
So we would be able to find that out.
And I'd go, who's handling Owen's case?
Oh, it's this FBI agent.
Boop. And they're in the Austin resident agency.
Or they're in the Washington field office.
Or they're wherever the hell they are.
owen shroyer
By the way, this is how corrupt it is.
Because Alex makes reference to this all the time.
But when I was in the courtroom, they were saying, oh, he doesn't work at Infowars or he's not a member of the media.
That's because a judge, a federal judge, The magistrate judge went to the people that filed the case against me and said, hey, did you go through the process?
Because Obama signed a law when it's a member of the media.
There's different parameters you have to go through when charging somebody something like this.
They didn't go through the parameters.
So the magistrate judge Farouk said, hey, you didn't follow the parameters here, basically saying that the case was null and void.
So then they were forced to go into the courtroom and just say, oh, no, he doesn't work in the courts.
He's not a member of the media.
So they were kind of covering their tracks.
It's a separate story.
But from a layman's perspective, though, here's where I'm trying to figure out where the Epstein files might be.
Okay. Because, I mean, look, I could attack Bondi all day.
No, we'll tell you straight up.
kyle seraphin
They're on the computers.
We know that for a fact.
I got a buddy who works.
owen shroyer
But let me put it, like, they're collecting dust.
Like, nobody's going in there.
They've just been sitting there.
Nobody's looking at them.
Nobody's moving them.
kyle seraphin
No, everyone is acting like these are, like, paper files.
I feel like that was a really good messaging ob that Pan Bondi went on Fox News and talks about it.
And I imagine there's a boomer audience out there that's just like, oh, there's paper files and they fill up a whole truck.
owen shroyer
It wasn't boomers that got invited and got the binders.
kyle seraphin
It's so goofy, right?
It was so bad.
I want to be fair at the same time.
Again, I try to cut down the middle.
I don't have any favorites.
I don't know anything about Pam Bondi.
I've never met her.
I've got no skin in the game.
owen shroyer
Very nice person.
I don't think she's corrupt.
I just don't think she's cut for the job.
kyle seraphin
Here's what I think was a mistake.
That was an unforced error.
She didn't need to go out there and say that.
If you were a smart operator in this space and you had access to, you had anybody advising her.
Anybody, like, I would advise her and I'd do it for free.
I'd say, look.
Nobody in America thinks that they're going to get unredacted access to a criminal investigation.
That's crazy.
They're not going to do that.
You're not going to get that information.
So don't act like you're going to do that.
Go out there and say, look, we promised you the Epstein files on day one.
I know that was a little bit hyperbolic.
What we really mean is we're going to get Epstein prosecutions moving.
We are going to access the files from our end.
We are going to get indictments.
We are going to go get arrests.
We are going to get criminal prosecutions and we are going to see plea deals or we're going to see convictions.
That's what we came here to promise you.
There's a lot of names here.
There's a much bigger scope than we necessarily realized.
The files are being, they're maintained.
They're at the Southern District of New York because they had Discovery over there.
They've also got access to them in the New York field office.
We are assigning a task force.
That's what I would have done.
I would have said, I'm picking 20 agents that have no political bias, that we've evaluated through a third party or through consultants that have, like, knew them for years.
We're getting some AUSAs, the Assistant United States Attorneys.
We're going to get some federal prosecutors that have, like, real aggressive teeth.
We're going to move all these people to Billings, Montana.
owen shroyer
And the resources are available, personnel-wise.
kyle seraphin
I mean, you have all these people.
Yeah, you have 38,000 people working for the FBI.
You got whatever it is.
owen shroyer
Yeah, they had, like, six on my case.
So I'm sure they can handle it.
kyle seraphin
They have as much resources as they choose to have resources.
They had thousands of agents, 6,000 people, not all agents, by the way, but 6,000 individuals working for just the FBI, working on J6 cases.
You don't need 6,000.
You probably need 50 or 60 tops.
Go get some forensic analysts.
Get some people who can handle the financials there.
You're going to get some video analysis people.
You're going to probably need some evidence technicians that just do this, right?
You're going to get a handful of people that are specialists, and then you're going to get some really good...
Criminal agents who want to go out there and deal with the conspiracy of it.
If you did that and you said, look, they're going to be out of Billings, Montana, you're not going to hear about this for a couple days.
Rest assured, we're doing the right thing.
People would be fine with that.
owen shroyer
I think you unintentionally just gave the best defense for Pambani that she's ever had.
I think unintentionally because it's clear to me now that, yeah, she's not getting advice from anywhere.
kyle seraphin
That may be the case.
owen shroyer
And so whatever mistake she's making is on her own hand, which is kind of, you know, I think a fair defense to make.
It's not...
It doesn't make it less embarrassing, but I think that's the case.
I think when she went out there, maybe it was hyperbolic, maybe she was exaggerating, and she talked about the Epstein files.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, they're on my desk right now.
That was unforced.
owen shroyer
She felt she had to cover, right?
She felt she had to cover.
So she said, oh, I'll do this binder stunt.
Total fail.
Then she said, I've got the truckload.
Another total fail.
kyle seraphin
So it was like nobody was giving her- Then she said we're holding onto it for national security reasons, which is a good reason because there's probably some national security access.
What people don't realize is, as I said, if you type in that name, Jeffrey Epstein, into the file, into Sentinel, and you do the query, and you're looking, you're like, oh, we've got some- FISA, we've got some 702 documents.
We've got some source reporting documents.
We have a national security case where it ran across, which makes perfect sense when you have somebody who has that kind of money.
I guarantee you, if you talked to any, if you searched any billionaire, there's going to be some national security.
owen shroyer
Well, he was a quote-unquote financier.
I mean, you know.
kyle seraphin
Let's just take him at his word, and I don't, but let's just take it at his word that that's what he did, that all he did was move a lot of money around.
You're going to be talking to people that have a lot of money, that are in the national intelligence space.
The CIA does regular operations where they go recruit foreign business people or people that travel as foreign businesses that are in the United States.
They have a group called NR that goes out and does this full time.
They run around the U.S.
and they find people that go to places where they want to get information.
And they say, can we get you?
Great example.
Patrick Byrne is one of those examples, right?
He said he was recruited by the FBI.
I have some reason to believe that he's correct, only because he described his case agent, and I know the person, or his handling agent, and I know that guy.
And he described him to a T, and he's not a common-looking guy.
Like, he's very specific, and he has a very common name, so it would be a weird thing for you to guess a generic name and then a very specific appearance, which is not what most FBI agents look like.
Let's just...
Say that.
Let's say that guy.
So you go, okay, Patrick Byrne, he's got hundreds of millions of dollars.
He travels all over the world.
He hangs out in Europe.
We want to get access to some people in Europe.
We're going to go recruit him as a source and say, hey, do you love your country?
We'd love to get you to say some things for us.
Ask some questions.
Get some information.
Can we train you?
And he goes, yeah, yeah, that sounds great.
I love America.
And so he does it.
They do that.
Let's say Epstein was that guy.
I don't think he was, but let's say he was.
They still, you might have intelligence assets.
owen shroyer
But if he was doing that for the CIA, is that what you're saying?
That could be considered national security?
kyle seraphin
CIA and FBI does the same thing.
The FBI has exactly the same thing.
So one of the pieces that we pulled up, this is what Chase and I were talking about the other day.
There's an entire case on there.
It's an 801i.
That's a human intelligence case that was looking into Infowars.
And so the FBI has entire human squads.
That's just short for human intelligence.
Same like they do signals, intelligences, signin, geo-int and other things.
They go out there.
They have entire squads of FBI agents.
I was actually being recruited to go there.
I had my buddies like, hey, you should come work for us in Washington Field.
We fly all over the country.
We get to wine and dine people.
We get to pick up sources and pick their brains for stuff.
We get to task them and pay them and we get to go to cool places.
And I went, that's cool.
I have little babies.
I'm not interested in doing that.
And they go, you're really good at talking to people.
I go, yeah, I am.
And I can elicit information too.
I just don't want to do that work.
That doesn't sound interesting because I don't want to travel around and be essentially a domestic intelligence asset when I signed up to be a criminal investigator.
And that's the big problem with the FBI right now.
We have a bunch of people that want to do intel, and that lives inside the FBI.
It used to just be the NSA, and it was all about signal intelligence.
Now you have human intelligence being cultivated.
So it's lost its mission in a way.
It's gained a mission that is antithetical to the original mission.
That would be more accurate.
It gained this mission where all it does is like...
It runs for information for its own purposes, but that is not what the FBI is meant to do.
That's not what Americans think it does.
If you were to pick a guy on the street, joke you public, and you go, hey man, do you like the FBI?
He would say yes or no.
And you'd say, what do you think the FBI is?
owen shroyer
Probably most would say no.
kyle seraphin
I don't know.
The trend is stronger that way.
But if you ask them, what does the FBI do?
They go, they investigate bank robberies and major crimes.
You would think that's what they should do, which is what the mission is that Kash Patel should be trying to push.
So when you talk about Pam Bondi maybe not being guided, imagine showing up to a country, because this is the best analogy.
I just talked about it with Alex a second ago.
You're landing on the beachhead, and you want to take back, let's say, France.
Let's go World War II.
You're going to go and capture the beachhead.
Are you going to bring someone who knows the maps of Germany and has been on the ground in Germany before or has been in France before that's going to help you be a local tour guide?
They do this in the Special Forces community all the time.
They go get a tour guide.
You know, they have a different name for it, but they get an indigenous language, understands the culture.
Yeah, all of those things.
Knows what these signs mean, knows what these roadways are, knows when people are traveling.
You need to know some local on-the-ground intel.
Would you show up to DOJ and try to take over and not know that stuff?
Because the DOJ always has an attorney general, but it also has these AGGs.
And the attorney generals, like the sub-attorney generals, the associate attorney generals, the deputy attorney generals, they run the agency.
They always have, in the same way that the deputy director runs the FBI.
So this is why we're in uncharted territory right now with Dan Bongino.
He's not a former FBI agent.
He doesn't have, like, an allegiance to the FBI.
Initially, I was like, that's a terrible idea.
You need some local tour guides.
You need someone who knows.
owen shroyer
But the problem is, historically— Does Patel have that?
kyle seraphin
No, he doesn't have the knowledge base.
He's brought some of those people on, from what I can tell.
And some of the people, he's reached out to people that he worked with when he was working in New York and working cases as an AUSA.
So he's got now folks who did the job I did, which is like frontline FBI agent.
He's got some of those folks.
That actually gives me a little bit of hope that they can do it.
But they have a short window where they can get inertia.
They've got to actually move forward.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you what.
Let's connect that to the crossfire hurricane announcement that was made today.
Because I think that that's actually where the rubber meets the road with this team.
Probably. And you know what, though?
Pambani might not feel comfortable as the AG going into the federal...
You know, Bureau of Investigation.
But she's very comfortable on Fox News, right?
I mean, we at least know that.
Agreed. All right, we've got FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin in studio.
He also, this is actually you on the scene.
kyle seraphin
There it is.
owen shroyer
There you are, sprinting down a criminal.
No, I think that's point break.
kyle seraphin
So do you know that I named my son after this movie?
No. Do you know who the good guy in this movie is?
owen shroyer
I haven't seen it, too.
I know Keanu Reeves is the good guy.
kyle seraphin
No, no.
He's the FBI agent.
Who's the good guy?
owen shroyer
Not Swayze.
kyle seraphin
Swayze's the good guy.
owen shroyer
He's the bank robber.
kyle seraphin
Right, he's the good guy.
He gets away from the FBI.
owen shroyer
He's just a wave rider.
He's hanging ten.
kyle seraphin
So I named my son Bodhi after this movie.
And this is why I was in the FBI.
And so people go, like, why'd you name him that?
And I go, because he was the good guy in Point Break.
And they're like, he wasn't the agent.
He was the bank robber.
And I'm like, no, he got away from the FBI.
He's a good guy.
That's Bodhi.
owen shroyer
I do get it.
kyle seraphin
It's the great line.
owen shroyer
That's part of the greatness of the movie is they make you contemplate that with the whole culture of it.
kyle seraphin
Also, there's an FBI agent laying on the ground at one point in time when Keanu Reeves is laying there and he fires his gun into the air out of frustration.
It's like it's absolutely absurd.
owen shroyer
By the way, since we're doing shoutouts, before we get into the Bongino thing, you got a couple people you want to say hi to?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, we're saying hi to Brooke and to Ann in Payson, Arizona.
We're just saying, what's up?
Got your message.
And Owen says hey as well.
owen shroyer
Always appreciative of all of our audience.
So Kyle spoke very highly of you, so I said, oh yeah, say hello to them.
kyle seraphin
We're going to get your hat signed.
That's going to happen.
owen shroyer
I want to get to what you said in the last break, which I think is very important, and that's Bongino and Patel not having the FBI background, which I could see, I think you could make the case either way.
You could say it's a good thing because, you know, the FBI has been so corrupted over the years and you kind of figure, let's try something else out.
But to me, this is where the rubber meets the road with the announcement about Crossfire Hurricane.
Nobody knows from their own investigative research and writings, nobody knows where the bodies are buried better than Bongino and Patel.
I mean, they've literally written the books.
Patel's done dozens of interviews.
Bongino, obviously his show was one of the biggest shows going until he recently is taking time off.
I don't think he's retired for good, but he's taking time off as his deputy director.
So it's like, to me, this is the big thing.
This is, now you're, whether or not they have the FBI background, I'm not so concerned about.
I'm saying, these are the guys that have already done the legwork.
They've already done the research, so they can go and look at all the stuff, and maybe they need some guidance as far as the systems and everything is concerned.
But to me, I'm looking at this and I'm saying...
If my goal is to drain the swamp, then I do have to go back to 2016, don't I?
I do have to go back to Operation Crossfire Hurricane, and we do have to ID the people that did this, and maybe some of them do belong in prison, I would say yes.
So Bongino and Patel are kind of the perfect ones, I think, to lead that mission.
kyle seraphin
We are re-adjudicating things that have been going wrong for the last eight years in this country.
Hands down, no doubt about it.
It has to be done.
There's no way.
You can't just ignore it and act like it didn't happen.
It did.
It happened, and it was crazy.
And so historically speaking, what happens is the deputy director, as you alluded to, the deputy director's job, this is kind of ugly, and this is the real deal.
The FBI director's job has historically been to keep the FBI director at bay.
And the FBI continues unabated.
The FBI director comes in and has policy and has oversight.
Chris Ray used those words when he was interviewed with Brett Baer.
He has the ability to set vision.
And Chris Ray's vision was sort of like a Lifetime movie football coach.
It was just like platitudes.
Do the right thing and hit hard.
And you're like, ugh, just weak.
Just weak.
I've got a picture.
I think I showed you this with Jim Comey.
Did I show you this?
Jim Comey.
owen shroyer
My friend.
kyle seraphin
Jim Comey.
owen shroyer
Friend of the show.
kyle seraphin
Was legitimately, he actually, I think, one, believed his own BS.
And two, he was a cult of personality where he actually did come in and actually move people around him.
First of all, he's huge.
He's an absolutely enormous person.
He's like almost seven feet tall.
So he dwarfs me.
My wife is shorter than me.
owen shroyer
You look young there.
kyle seraphin
I was pretty young.
owen shroyer
Maybe it's just the beard.
kyle seraphin
That was almost 10 years ago.
owen shroyer
Yeah, maybe it's just the beard.
kyle seraphin
I've aged a lot in the last three years.
My wife looks at that and goes like, oh my God, there's my husband.
Like, where did you go?
And I'm like, I don't know.
I just stepped into the FBI.
And the first thing that happened, honestly, the funniest thing is there's a culture, right?
And one of the cultures is like everywhere else.
If you're an enlisted guy, like I was, if you are a brick agent that wants to be an investigator, like I was, you go, okay, I don't want to be in management.
I hate management.
I don't like what management represents.
It represents people that want to do not the work.
And so my first squad, they came to me and they go, hey man, you need to grow a beard.
This is actually going to get to the point, I promise you.
He goes, you need to grow a beard.
And I go, well, I've never really grown a beard.
I was in the military and I never was a beard guy.
I don't even know if I can grow a decent beard.
And they go, well, you have to grow a beard.
And I said, oh, well, why?
And they said, it's the last F you to management that they can't censor because they removed the dress and appearance stuff in 2010.
So you have to grow a beard because that's what we do here on the squad.
And I went, well, far be it from me to not be part of the squad.
owen shroyer
You're the new guy.
I'm on the team.
kyle seraphin
I'm the new guy.
Yeah, they call it FNG, right?
You're the effing new guy.
So you show up, you're like, fine, I'll grow a beard.
So I did.
And I go to my buddy who actually, coincidentally, right now is at headquarters and helping out with this Patel and Boncino thing.
And I go, hey, man, I don't think I can keep this.
I'm probably like a week into it.
I go, it's itchy, it's terrible.
Yeah, I've never had this thing.
And he goes, oh, no, you just got to stick it out.
You got to stick it out for like a little longer.
And I go, okay, well, how long do I get to stick it out and try it?
He goes, Like three months.
And I'm looking at, like, you know, it's been six days, and I want to rip my face off.
And he's like, no, no, no.
And I basically had a beard ever since then, because I just sucked it up, and I grew a beard, and then you have it.
My kids don't even know what I look like.
This does not look like their dad to them.
So this guy went into the FBI.
This guy got spit out of the FBI.
And the key is that there are things that you learn.
There are things that you understand.
There are systems that you become part of.
And one of the things that happened is, as that was all going on, and this is all kind of relevant to it, Andy McCabe was the guy who was in charge of the Washington field office where I was assigned to work.
And Peter Strzok actually opened and signed off on his ass.
I got these garbage cases.
We call them like a dog with fleas.
owen shroyer
By the way, there's two guys right there that belong in a hearing and maybe a courtroom.
kyle seraphin
The fact of the matter is that they've been paid out by the FBI.
The FBI came back and said, sorry, we screwed with you.
I'm sorry that you lied to us and you actually broke your own.
We're going to give you everything.
owen shroyer
Oh, they're the victims.
kyle seraphin
They're the victims.
Peter Strzok got like a million point.
owen shroyer
That is crazy.
kyle seraphin
Lisa Page got $800,000 because her private text messages, which were on a government server.
By the way, every year that you work for the federal government, they give you this disclosure that reminds you that anything you do on government email, government cell phones, government text messages.
owen shroyer
Because you're not bright enough to think about that by yourself.
kyle seraphin
They are not your property, and you have zero right to privacy.
In fact, you're not even supposed to use them for anything personal.
They actually have a term for it.
It's a legal term.
It's called de minimis.
That means that it is of such minimal value and so little time that it actually represents almost nothing.
So there should be zero information.
But what we saw was Is under the Biden regime, they actually paid these people off for their loyalty under Crossfire Hurricane and the other things they did to go after Donald Trump because we saw that continuation.
Listen, all of this stuff needs to be re-adjudicated.
You're 100% correct.
But as there was guys like Andy McCabe who were in charge of the field office, who then became the acting director of the FBI and then became, you know, back down to the deputy director, the deputy director holds the bureau's director in abeyance.
And says, this is the, I represent the entirety of the FBI, the institutional knowledge of the FBI, this decades of experience in the FBI, even though they only have like five years of case experience.
They didn't work cases very long, but they get to step in and be in charge of the whole thing.
And so the director comes in and is from outside the FBI, usually a DOJ lawyer in most recent terms, right?
And they go, okay, well, I have all these priorities.
I want to do this thing.
And the deputy director kind of handles the day-to-day business of how that works.
So they wrap them up and they put them on the kissing babies tour.
You know, the FBI director is more like a politician.
Who gets glad-handled, whereas the staffers are actually running the show, the deputy director is the guy who's running it.
So we are in uncharted waters with Dan Bongino in that way.
And when this went out, and I had some falling out with Dan Bongino, which I think is really sad, because I think at the end of the day, Dan and I were actually saying the same thing.
If we got down in a room and sat and talked face-to-face like this, he would realize that the things I was saying were not contradictory to what he was saying, and it wasn't personal at all.
But I wouldn't wish that job on anybody.
And so I'm grateful that someone like Dan wants to step into it.
He's walking away from an awful lot of money in that podcast world.
And he's stepping into a job that is going to suck.
It is going to suck some of his soul out and is going to be surrounded by people who want to cut his throat.
That's a really scary...
Plus, he said some pretty aggressive things about the FBI.
I hope he doesn't forget about that.
I hope he maintains that thing.
And he can say anything he wants publicly, and I don't care what he says on Twitter, not even a little bit.
It's irrelevant to me.
What I care about is...
owen shroyer
I'm the same one.
kyle seraphin
Say what you need to for PR.
Mouth whatever platitudes you need to for the staff.
Get the guys that are in there that know what's wrong.
And there's a couple of them that I know for a fact are now assigned to headquarters on a temporary basis and they are looking for the problems.
Let those guys tell you the truth.
Take them seriously.
Take them literally and go.
Cut the throats that need to be cut.
The deputy director's job today should be cutting the throats of the evil.
And I mean that, of course, metaphorically, not literally.
But you need to gut this organization from all of that institutional rot.
And there is a ton of it that has basically learned the exact wrong lessons, which is that we're entitled to information.
We run the show here.
We don't care who the president is.
We're the ones that are going to exist.
That's what deep state is.
It's people that are going to exist from term to term, regardless of who's president.
And they think that their...
Ownership of that agency, of that institution, is far more important than an oath to the Constitution and certainly more important than the executive branch for which they work.
You hear these people saying, like, we're transparent and independent.
We're the FCC and we're independent.
It's like, the hell you are.
You work for the president, just like everybody else in the executive.
There's a reason why the president's face is outside of every single main office when you walk into every single government building that is executive, which is 98% of the government.
It's almost all directly answerable under the executive.
That's Article 2 authorities that you're exercising.
So stop acting like you have some sort of ability to do otherwise.
And I'll just say that the thing that my buddy Rob Green, actually, I give the credit where it's due, he said this.
He turned me on to this idea that people in the FBI, but a lot of people in federal government, and also in the DOD, they think they're accountable to their institution and not to the Constitution.
And that's what needs to change.
I think you're right.
I think Cash is the right guy.
I still stand behind him being the right choice.
I'm a little bit miffed that there was a speed, but I had somebody call me the other day, and it actually brightened my day, and they said, look, here's why it was so slow.
Cash got there, and exactly what you said would happen, whatever I'm telling you right now, that the FBI would start defending itself, like a body putting up...
owen shroyer
Like you work for the badge, not the flag.
kyle seraphin
That's what they think.
The number one sin in the FBI has always been if you offend the FBI.
That actually used to be policy.
Someone sent it to me from the 1970s.
It was actual FBI policy that if you reported wrongdoing by the FBI, but it was actually malicious to the FBI and it would damage the reputation of the FBI under Hoover, you were the problem.
They would ignore the whistleblowing you did and they'd come after you.
That was actual FBI policy.
owen shroyer
Well, you've witnessed that.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, of course.
But now it's default policy.
It's still a policy.
It's just not de jure.
It's de facto.
owen shroyer
Yeah. Well, again, I'm wondering too now if this is a conscious move from Trump.
To say, okay, I know Patel, not only does he want loyalty, that's not a secret, but it's like, okay, I know Patel is loyal, I know Bongino is loyal, but if I still have this kind of chip on my shoulder from 2016 and the illegal spying and Obama and everything, then these are the guys I would hire to go in and re-examine that and do something.
In fact, let's go to the clip, guys.
Do we have Will Scharf?
And Trump making that announcement.
kyle seraphin
Just before you even go there, I would even push back a little bit on the idea of chip on the shoulder.
I know that's a turn of phrase.
What I would say is that there needs to be accountability.
That's what justice looks like.
Americans don't need retribution.
We don't need revenge, although we kind of would feel that way.
It feels good.
What we need is accountability so that if you did something wrong, let's say you went to, I don't know, the FISA court and you lied about a guy who was coming in that was running a presidential campaign.
That seems really problematic.
And so the people that were involved in that need to be held accountable, including the ones that retired, by the way.
owen shroyer
Not just lied about it.
You parallel constructed the lie.
You built the apparatus to then bring the lie.
I mean, it was beyond.
So let's go to clip two real quick.
This was the announcement, Trump's personal secretary, Will Scarf, giving the documents to Trump and declassifying Crossfire Hurricane.
will scharf
Next, sir, we have a presidential memorandum for your attention.
This memorandum requires the immediate declassification of all FBI files relating to the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
This was obviously one of the instances of the weaponization of law enforcement, powers of prosecution against you and others.
We believe that it's long past time for the American people to have a full and complete understanding of what exactly is in those files.
unidentified
Which gives the media the right to go in and...
donald j trump
Go and check it.
unidentified
You probably won't bother because you're not going to like what you see.
donald j trump
But this was total weaponization.
It's a disgrace.
It never happened in this country.
unidentified
But now you'll be able to see for yourselves all declassified.
owen shroyer
See, this to me, and now I'm watching this, it makes me think that my instincts are right here.
Because Trump, he never really addressed the Epstein files like this.
He's never really addressed any of the declassification, not the JFK files like this.
It was kind of more of just...
Hey, we're going to declassify.
Hey, we're going to declassify.
This was, hey, you need to look at this, you need to see what was done, and you need to report on what was done.
Now, I don't know if this is something you can comment to, but it is a mystery to me.
It's like, okay, so are they, because I don't know about strategy, I don't know, sometimes I feel like everybody's firing from the hip, quite frankly, but is it, okay, we're going to declassify, people are going to pour through it, we're going to get a different angle, a different perspective, and then the hound dogs are coming for the scent.
So then it's like, now Bongino, now Patel can go after this situation, and the public has a completely different idea of what went down.
kyle seraphin
There is an instinct, I think, probably because you've got two media guys in there right now.
Patel is very media savvy.
Bongino obviously worked at every level, all the way up to Fox and had his own show.
They have an understanding that if you...
If you build a grassroots movement of people, I've even had people tell me, I was like, hey, we need to get this guy pardoned.
We have to have this happen.
Like, this is something that needs to be stopped.
There's a prosecution that needs to be corrected.
How do we do that?
And they said you need to make us think about it.
It needs to be big enough that the groundswell is enough that we can stand behind the public sentiment there.
So I can imagine, and you're right, JFK, the people have demanded it, right?
The Epstein files, the people have demanded it.
Donald Trump is pushing this one forward because this came after him.
He also just pardoned...
What's his name?
Devin Archer.
Right? And so he just...
Those are people that...
Interesting. That was just a pardon that was just issued out.
owen shroyer
He wasn't in prison, was he?
kyle seraphin
I don't think so.
I think he was just...
owen shroyer
Probation probably?
kyle seraphin
Something to that effect.
I should refresh myself on that case.
I just saw it while I was sitting over with Alex.
owen shroyer
But that's a big Biden whistleblower.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, and at the end of the day, he's not...
Whistleblower is the wrong term for me.
It's like he's a guy that actually dished out on him.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
He was part of it.
kyle seraphin
He was part of it, yeah.
He was working on behalf of the Bidens.
He was working with Hunter.
He was part of that whole thing.
Tony Bobulinski, that whole kind of thing came out.
Bobulinski was pushing for his pardon.
So you're seeing this is motivated by Donald Trump coming forward.
I think what you do is you say, yes, these are all, not only are we going to tell you the narrative that we have, which is what he's been doing for a long time, you know, they spied on me, they did this, all the great kind of Trumpisms, where he's like, you know, he's doing the pumpkin thing and he's talking about how they came after him.
owen shroyer
They spied on my campaign.
unidentified
No, look.
kyle seraphin
It was the greatest campaign ever.
owen shroyer
What was it?
The 60 Minutes gal, Leslie Stahl.
Leslie, Leslie, no, Mr. President.
kyle seraphin
No, Mr. President.
owen shroyer
It's like...
Excuse me, but I mean, bitch, you're talking to the President of the United States.
And then, you know, that's the arrogance.
And he was right.
Of course he was right.
He's the president.
He's seen it.
But it's like, that's the arrogance of these 60-minute media hacks.
kyle seraphin
She's awful.
But at the end of the day, it's like he's now showing you.
He's like, okay, we're going to give you access to the files, theoretically, if that's what they do.
If they declassify them, there's still going to have to be FOIA requests.
There's still going to be stuff that's redacted.
owen shroyer
Of course.
It'll be a process.
kyle seraphin
All of that being said, what we'd like to see is that the evidence is out there so you can cite it and then you build this groundswell of regular people.
Because I think a lot of people looked over and went, Donald Trump's a bad guy.
He can't be president.
Then he was president, right?
And they're like, well, the economy's pretty good, so there's that.
But everyone thinks he's a fascist, apparently, if you're on the crazy line.
owen shroyer
Yeah, so it's like this new, like, color of law.
It's like, well, we can go after him, right?
He's bad.
kyle seraphin
I think a lot of people's minds changed, and I felt very strongly that one of the things that I was most proud of, this is a weird thing to be proud of, I was proud that the FBI removed me prior to them doing the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago.
And you don't maybe know this, but I know people that were on that search warrant.
I know guys on the tactical team that secured the premises.
I know people that signed for the evidence receipt.
His name has been released publicly.
It doesn't really matter.
I don't need to say anything about it.
But Jeremy was out there and I knew him.
I said next to him.
I used to have lunch with the guy.
Like, he's a decent person.
They're not bad human beings.
But I was very proud to be removed from an FBI by the time they crossed that Rubicon, that they're going to go into the house of a former president, which is purely the reason I actually ended up saying that in my first interview with Bongino.
I sit down with him and I said, this is stuff that Banana Republics do.
You know?
And I came up with this quotation, which is some people hear it and they go like, ah, yes.
And I'm hoping we get away from this.
But for the last couple years, I've been living under this sort of belief that the America I was born in would invade the America I live in.
Because... Who would have thought that?
Like, we would have gone and done an Operation Just Cause and deposed the dictatorship of the Biden and the way that they were running this game.
owen shroyer
Plus, they were cooperating anyway.
kyle seraphin
You can't have your DOJ go out there and be investigating your political opponents.
Are you out of your flipping minds?
That's just hands-off stuff.
There's a reason why people step in and they pardon the former guy like why Nixon got a pardon.
And we're hearing there may be some shenanigans involved in that, and a lot of people thought that for a long time.
But let's just be real.
You cannot investigate political opposition solely because of political oppositionship.
And they didn't even get him.
You know what I mean?
They didn't even get the goods on him.
And I think they were doing novel interpretations of laws and able to make that happen.
So all of that is terrible.
That's a terrible look.
And so I was glad to be removed before that happened.
And I think Donald Trump is like, look, the information's out there.
There's a bunch of, we'll call them normies or people that don't listen to this.
They're listening to mainstream information.
If you can make the signal amped up to the point where they can't ignore it anymore.
You got a real potential for having that groundswell.
And then when prosecutions happen, if they do, and I think some should, it won't be as much as we want.
But we'd like to see some of it.
I want to see some people arrested.
And I don't want it for, like, retribution.
I want us to course correct and fix the people that decided that they didn't care about the norms that have kept America.
It's the same thing as judges going out there and ruling as activists.
Look, you can have an opinion.
What you can't do is get in on the field when you're part of the referee's team.
And so we need to get those people removed as well.
This is a bigger process, I feel like, of trying to correct the course.
owen shroyer
Well, and there's kind of this paradox happening where the Democrats, I got this stack of news here, they're protesting their own events now.
They're screaming.
They have no political power, so now they don't know what to do.
They're mad at the Democrats because Trump's the worst person ever, and they're not doing enough to stop him, and it needs to be worse.
And now Musk is the new Nazi, and so it's like they're not doing enough, they're not doing enough, but they've kind of built this on themselves.
By labeling Trump, labeling Musk, labeling their supporters, all these horrible things.
So they've kind of done it to themselves, and now their voters expect things, but they have no political power.
On the right, it's like, we know there have been crimes.
We know people who have been victims of the weaponized government.
Most, I mean, a lot of people now involved in politics are either directly a victim of the weaponized government, or they know somebody who's a victim of the weaponized government.
You've got two sitting at this desk right here.
So it's like, we know that that's going on, and we want...
Like, we want...
That's real.
That's actually something happening.
Not some made-up Nazi racist myth that they have people all foaming at the mouth over.
Like, that's real.
These are the expectations we have because we want justice.
And so I think, you know, that's where my impatience is at.
I mean, I don't hide it.
I'm impatient.
I know it.
I'm out of patience.
I'm not hiding that here from anybody.
kyle seraphin
It's fair.
I mean, look, when you've been on one end of it, it's the same thing.
You sit over there and I talk to Alex and it's like, man, like, nobody knows what it's like until somebody gives you a phone call up and they go, you're under investigation.
And you go, what?
Like, I'm a decent person.
I pay my taxes.
Like, am I the best person in the world?
No, but I'm, like, trying to be a father, and I'm trying to, like, raise kids, and I've got a wife, and I did a job, and I thought I showed up every day, and I wasn't trying to be a political actor in any way, shape.
That's not what this was about.
Are you crazy?
And they're like, yeah, no, they're investigating you because of what you said, because you hurt some feelings.
And you're thinking, what country do I live in?
That's not acceptable.
We can't be in that.
And so, what's crazy is, you know...
As you said, people on the left are now, they've cried wolf so many times that it is worn out.
Nobody cares.
No one's coming anymore.
It's like your impotent rage is impotent.
It is just going to be loud.
owen shroyer
And they're taking it out on them.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, you're going to go blow up a Tesla or something.
Like, what a terrible idea.
And that doesn't mean it's not dangerous.
Because, by the way, a wounded animal is a dangerous animal.
A cornered animal is a dangerous animal.
And my buddy Mark Howe, who is, he was the guy who actually got raided for being a pro-life activist, right?
He's got, I think he's got seven kids.
And he had, you know, FBI agents come and point guns at him.
And it's like, he said this to me the first time we ever spoke, he said the devil is most loud when he's losing.
So we are hearing that, but they're still dangerous in so much as that.
But the crazy thing is, is people that are either on the right or people that are not at all, people that are unconnected to it.
I'll talk to people that don't seem particularly political at all, and I'll have a conversation with them, and they'll go, what do you do for a living?
And I go, oh, I run a podcast.
And they go, oh, really?
How do you get into that?
And I go, oh, it's kind of a weird story.
I was in the military, and then I got out, and then I worked as a paramedic for a little while, and then I joined the FBI.
And they go, what did you do?
And I go, I was a special agent.
And they go, oh, really?
I go, yeah.
But then I brought some information to Congress, and I said I wasn't going to get a shot.
And I got thrown out.
And they go, what did you bring to Congress?
And I go, well, I did this.
I told them that they were investigating parents at school boards, that they were going to use, you know, counterterrorism cases there.
I told them that they were investigating Catholics who like Latin mass of all things.
And so you start telling them this and they go.
I didn't know who you were, but I know that story.
Like, normies know that story.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that was pretty mainstream.
kyle seraphin
It's broad.
We called it the thermal exhaust port.
Me and the other suspendables that wear the pin like this.
The guys that have gone out there and gone to the bat.
It's like, you may not know who I am.
You may not know my face.
You may not know my name or my handle.
But you know that story that somehow the FBI decided they were going to investigate people who like Gregorian chant and Latin mass.
And like, that's pretty darn crazy.
Or that they were going to go after parents for being at school board meetings protesting transgender ideology.
That's batshit crazy.
Like, what planet are we living on where that is being done?
owen shroyer
And they know.
kyle seraphin
Regular people know it.
owen shroyer
I have something similar.
I'm going to say the forbidden word now.
Swatting. I'm going to say the familiar word, SWAT.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, let's talk.
owen shroyer
I mean, you saw it before.
There's no monolith here.
Alex came into the studio.
We were talking about some stuff.
He's like, hey, you should talk about this, not your SWATing, whatever.
But the truth is...
kyle seraphin
That's the first time I've ever heard him give you instructions, and I've been here a couple times.
owen shroyer
The truth is, here's the two-fold truth before we hit this break.
One, I'm doing the exact same thing that you're talking about here.
I'm raising the heat with this issue because I have a desired result.
There's a reason why I continue to make a news story, not about me, but because I'm looking for a desired result.
But two, and this is just the truth.
This is just from a human point.
I had guns pointed at my head.
I had lasers on my chest, my back, and my head.
I'm done.
I'm out of patience.
I'm a good guy.
I didn't commit any crimes.
We just won the election, and I'm still dealing with this shit.
So I'm not hiding it.
I wear my emotions on the sleeve.
I am out of patience.
So like you said, Fox News interviews, posts.
Tweets telling me, I want results, and that's the only thing that's going to satisfy me at this point.
And I don't think I'm alone in that.
kyle seraphin
Nope. No, I think a lot of Americans feel that way.
And look, I said it before.
I said it right after the election.
First of all, I didn't think we were going to have an election.
I'm totally transparent about that, and I thought we were going to have...
owen shroyer
We got through that.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, yeah, we got through that.
We dodged that bullet.
But what I basically realized at some point in time was that we're having an election.
We've got this guy in.
If Donald Trump does 30% of the things that he said he's going to do, we win.
And he's probably already done that in the first couple days.
So I'm already over my expectations, if I'm being honest.
Like, we're already getting a lot of it, and I'm selfish.
I want a lot more.
I want to see my friend Garrett O'Boyle restored to his job.
Does he want it?
He needs to be made whole.
He needs to be able to at least leave on his own terms.
He needs to be reinstated because he's never actually resigned.
unidentified
Back pay?
kyle seraphin
30 months.
He needs to be paid damages.
I think I should too.
Look, you made my pregnant wife homeless.
You made my three kids leave all their friends.
owen shroyer
We're up against a short break here, but I agree with what you're saying.
And Trump might do it out of his own pocket like he did for the astronauts.
We're still here with Kyle Serafin and we're talking in the break.
I can't remember where we left the last segment off.
kyle seraphin
We need justice.
owen shroyer
Well, that's what it is.
kyle seraphin
We need accountability.
owen shroyer
That's what it is.
And that's a perfect example where it's like everywhere...
kyle seraphin
You guys are putting up our Rumble channel.
They're awesome.
owen shroyer
Of course we are.
Everywhere, like if I get somebody that recognizes me, say for the first time, not somebody I talk to regularly or whatever I have a friendship now with after they recognize me, it's like for the first time, that's like...
of the first things I could ask.
Now, it used to be like way, way back during the Trump years, it was something different.
Then now it's just like, oh, what are we going to do about foreign influence or Israel?
But also, it's like when are we going to arrest the criminals?
When are we going to arrest the criminals?
The criminals need to get arrested.
So it's like the public is there.
They're ready to see the criminals.
But see, it's so We've been robbed.
kyle seraphin
You can't do it though until you take back these institutions.
And that's why the analogy that Beachhead is so important.
The director you want.
You can have the deputy director you want.
You can have agents that want to do the work.
You've got to find a way to get it from the, this is our policy and this is the way we're going to do it, to the people on the front end that are going to actually go out and do that and give them the resources behind it without people stabbing them in the back behind the scenes.
Because they'll jam you up on every petty thing.
The best thing, not the best thing, the most...
Common thing I hear about time working under J. Edgar Hoover, because I knew people that were like right on the tail end.
They knew Hoover guys.
So I got it secondhand from people that retired.
You know, they were 25 years in when I started, and they knew guys that were 25 years in when they started, going back to the Hoover days.
And they go, you know, the craziest thing is, you're always in violation of FBI policy at some point in time.
So if you've got some policy wonk who's working in some mid-level management position, and they're all over the place.
owen shroyer
That's all they do.
kyle seraphin
GS-14, GS-15, SES-1 positions.
These are the senior executive state.
The people that are out there.
That are really trying to maintain the status quo, which is what the FBI does.
It's a status quo organization and it defends itself first.
They can throw every roadblock and every bit of interference between like what Dan Bongino might say is coming down or an FBI all email from Director Cash Patel.
That doesn't matter if you've got people in the way.
So you've got to have folks out there that are going out there and find out who these people are.
You're essentially running a counterinsurgency and you're trying to win hearts and minds of the guys that were like...
People I know that want to do the work.
They just want to get bad guys.
That's fine.
You're not going to have a problem with them.
But you still got to win them over that, hey, we're doing this for serious.
We mean it.
We're actually going to go out and do it.
owen shroyer
There's a mandate.
kyle seraphin
Then you got to go find the people that are the insurgents.
And you got to stop them.
You got to find out who are the people that are working against you in your midst, whether it be passively or actively.
And there's a ton of them.
They have hired so many leftists over the years because they're hiring intel people that have like a long time in university and they come in indoctrinated and they believe that COVID was real and scary and that everybody should do stuff.
They thought it was okay to shut down the national security mission to 30 minutes a day, twice a week because of a virus that like didn't affect people in the working age bracket.
owen shroyer
Would it be easier to say, if you're Trump and you're trying to solve a problem, would it be easier to say, okay, Here's just, let's say, three missions.
Here's three missions that I want you to do.
He gives it to whoever's going to run these joint operations.
Would it be easier to do that and then just shut it down than to try to save it?
Would you be in favor of just shutting it down?
kyle seraphin
I was in favor of that from the beginning.
And the fact of the matter is you could do something that the FBI does without the FBI.
And people in the FBI hate hearing that.
unidentified
They're like, what are you, crazy?
owen shroyer
Take it to the state level.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, at the end of the day, I don't need the FBI to exist for my credibility to exist or for me as a human being.
I always thought I was an FBI agent third, right?
I was a husband and a father first.
Those things I don't get to run away from.
I'm an American second.
That's really important to me.
And then number three is the job that I do.
Today I'm a podcast host.
And it's like, I don't shy away from that because it's what I do.
That's what I do.
I earn a living doing.
And it's the same way.
I didn't feel like that being an FBI agent, other than I used to joke about a lot, I used to tell people I was a secret agent because everything I worked on said secret on it.
And that was really funny to me.
But it's like, I poked fun at that job right away because I never thought it was the most serious thing in the world.
You'd get these people.
This is the greatest little indicator of this.
You'd go to the FBI Academy, right?
And I did.
I'm sitting there listening to people.
I'm 35 when I go through that.
That young picture of me, that was 35, maybe 36. And so I'm sitting there and they would go, this is the best job in the world.
And I go, that's pretty heavy praise.
Like, how many jobs have you had?
I'm an investigator, right?
I want to ask questions.
So I go, well, what jobs have you had?
And they would go, well, I was an intel analyst at the FBI, and now I'm a special agent.
owen shroyer
Always been at the FBI.
kyle seraphin
And I'm like, look, man, it's the best job in the FBI, but this doesn't mean it's the best job in the world.
You got your mind.
owen shroyer
Kyle Serafin, follow him on Rumble, follow him on X. Excellent conversation.
Always glad when you stop by the studio.
kyle seraphin
Thanks, bud.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
All right.
Good times with friend of the show, podcaster, former FBI agent Kyle Serafin here in studio.
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And then we had the breaking news about Operation Crossfire Hurricane and Trump signing that executive order.
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Okay. Let's go to Trump again.
We played earlier to declassify Crossfire Hurricane.
That's going to be fun.
That's going to be a battle.
The deep state trying to protect what was going on in the Obama years to illegally spy and influence the Trump campaign.
Total crimes.
I mean, really, I mean, Obama probably signed off.
On all of it.
Maybe he needs to be investigated as well.
But here he is signing an executive order with an agenda on securing our elections.
Very important stuff here from President Trump.
will scharf
Sir, we have an executive order for your attention.
We believe that this executive order is the farthest reaching executive action taken in the history of...
To secure our elections, among numerous other aspects of this executive order, this is going to cut down on illegal immigrants on the voter rolls, ensure that the Department of Homeland Security and the data that they have available is being fully weaponized to ensure that illegal immigrants aren't voting.
This will include a citizenship question on the federal voting form for the first time.
This executive order instructs the EAC to cut federal funding to states.
That don't take reasonable steps to secure their election.
This calls on the Department of Justice to vigorously prosecute election crimes, particularly in states that we don't believe are in compliance with federal law around election integrity.
I could go on and on for a while, sir, but compliance with National Election Day rules, cracking down and investigating and prosecuting foreign interference in our elections, revoking President Biden's Executive Order 14.019, which essentially weaponized government to corrupt and pollute our election process.
There's a lot in here, but we believe that these are very important steps that we need to be taking as an administration at your direction to ensure that our elections are as secure as they possibly can be.
donald j trump
Okay. You all understand that?
Yes? Election fraud.
You've heard the term.
unidentified
We'll end it.
Hopefully. At least this will go a long way toward ending it.
donald j trump
There are other steps that we will be taking in the coming weeks.
And we think we'll be able to end up getting fair elections.
Perhaps some people think I shouldn't be complaining because we won in a landslide.
But we've got to straighten out our election.
This country is so sick because of the election, the fake elections and the ban elections.
unidentified
And we're going to straighten it out one way or the other.
donald j trump
And it's an honor to sign this one.
To sign all of them, but to sign this one is a great honor.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Alright, so that's very important when it comes to election security.
Trump says they have more executive orders planned for election security.
That's very important stuff.
And, you know, when you identify, which we have, I think, in the last couple of election cycles, when you identify all the shenanigans the Democrats engage in to win elections, you realize, okay, well, here's what we need to do.
And, by the way, they're about to engage in another one.
I'll break that down in a second, but you have these other election-related stories.
Stunning discovery made in Michigan.
Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's altered voter rolls.
Over 35,000 voter histories have reportedly been erased in violation of law.
So they keep doing this.
They've been caught doing this in multiple states, and it's hiding the voter fraud.
So they knew this was coming.
And they're just hiding all their voter fraud.
And remember, it was Michigan.
I mean, do the math.
It was Michigan that had multiple counties that had more votes than eligible voters.
And then, in 2024, I mean, Trump won in such a landslide, the numbers don't even really bear it out.
In states like Michigan, where they probably still cheated big.
Because remember, they would come in, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, We were able to get some things done, but they would come in with their state courts and they'd say, oh, no, we're not clearing the voter rolls until after the election.
So how do you end up with more votes than eligible voters in multiple counties?
Well, you have fraudulent voters on the voter rolls.
And then they said, we're not clearing it out until after the election in states like Michigan, Wisconsin.
So those people probably voted Democrat.
Trump's landslide was probably bigger than we even know.
Oh, and now they're clearing it.
Yeah. Because they know the Trump administration is coming in there to examine things.
Of course.
But they were supposed to do it anyway.
They just needed those votes.
Sweeping cancellation of 455,000 voter registrations planned in Georgia.
So these were voter registrations that were not getting any response, appeared to be fraudulent.
And, I mean, they steal Georgia, folks.
You really think a Democrat won in Georgia?
You really think Biden won Georgia?
You really think that the Senators won in Georgia?
unidentified
Come on.
owen shroyer
Georgia's about as red as it gets, but man, do they engage in massive fraud.
unidentified
Massive fraud.
owen shroyer
So there you go.
They're trying to stop the fraud there, too.
Here's another way Democrats cheat.
And this is beyond just an election.
This is how they rig the numbers when it comes to Congress as well.
And Musk is all over this.
But you have a big election coming up in Wisconsin.
And so Musk and Team Trump are pushing for Brad Schimel in Waukesha.
Wisconsin. And Susan Crawford, who they're running against, the election is coming up next week, a week from today.
Soros has spent $4.5 million.
Reid Hoffman, Soros based in New York, $4.5 million.
Reid Hoffman, based in California, $14.5 million.
J.B. Pritzker in Illinois, $6.5 million.
Carl Jurvetson, California, $7.5 million.
So none of these people are obviously in Wisconsin, as you can see, and yet spending almost $30 million in this election.
Why? Because if liberal Susan Crawford wins, she is going to gerrymander the congressional seats here in Wisconsin, and President Trump will lose the House.
So that's what they do, folks.
They gerrymander like you won't believe to steal House seats.
They've got cheating down to a science.
I mean, look, give credit where credit is due.
The Democrats have cheating in elections down to a science.
So this is a very important election in Wisconsin coming up in a week.
America PAC, Elon Musk's PAC, also all over this.
And we had these videos held over from yesterday.
I don't see them on the list.
But I can just tell you.
Wisconsin judge, who's running Susan Crawford, on sentencing a repeat child molester who sexually assaulted a seven-year-old girl to only four years in prison.
She says, I don't regret the sentence.
Here's that clip.
All right, that's all right, guys.
Don't worry about it.
We can just move on.
And there were some other clips with her, too.
Kind of got lost in translation today.
It's just not good.
Everybody knows what's going on.
Rallying anti-New York Times running the campaign now for Crawford.
The far-left liberal that likes to give child abusers light sentences.
Rallying anti-Musk donors.
Liberal judge rages $24 million in key court contests.
So it's the Soros money.
It's the big Democrat money.
The vast majority of it not even coming from Wisconsin.
Well... I don't know.
I mean, it's pretty obvious, folks.
This is very important to them, very important to the deep state, very important to the Democrats.
That's why they're spending all this money.
So they need to be defeated in Wisconsin.
Big election in Wisconsin, but the Trump team is all over it.
The America PAC of Elon Musk is all over it, and they're telling you the truth.
They get that judge in there, they're going to gerrymander, and they're going to steal Wisconsin.
Because that's what they do.
In case you haven't noticed, that's what Democrats do.
Now, let's go back to D.C. with some of these other clips that we have here.
Now, there's all of this back and forth over this signal chat that got leaked by this Atlantic hack, who's known to be a hack, the Atlantic known to be very anti-Trump, anti-truth, anti-America, so it's no surprise.
The truth is, whoever put him in the chat is really at fault here.
I mean, maybe even being fired.
The rumor appears to be that, or the rumors are, that it was Mike Walls who put this gentleman in the chat.
Is that termination worthy?
Well, I think where Trump is at right now, he's not trying to make that press, and he knows what the media will do if he starts firing people, so it probably will be some time before anybody gets fired.
But that's who's really to blame, not Hegseth or the people that were in the chat talking.
But of course, they're blowing it all out of proportion.
There was no classified information.
So the whole thing is fake.
There was no classified thing.
They're just completely exaggerating it.
But here is Tulsi Gabbard explaining that during a hearing today, clip four.
mark warner
Contact the defense secretary or others.
After this specific military planning was put out and say, hey, we should be doing this in a skiff?
tulsi gabbard
There was no classified material that was shared in that signal.
mark warner
So then if there was no classified material, share it with the committee.
You can't have it both ways.
These are important jobs.
This is our national security.
I love how she's just staring at Mark Warner, this hack, this phony scumbag.
owen shroyer
You know what's funny about this?
He says, well, why don't you share it with the committee?
Hey, scumbag, Goldberg, your guy, already published it!
What do you mean, share it with the committee?
It's literally been published in The Atlantic!
It's such political theater.
It's such phonyism.
Why won't you give it to us if it's not classified?
Why won't you show it to the world if it's not classified?
It's already been published in The Atlantic!
That's why you're asking her the question, you jackass!
They're not bright people.
Here's Mark Wayne Mullen addressing the situation as well, clip three.
markwayne mullin
I want to talk about this Signal thing again with the Houthis.
It's interesting to me that the Democrats are losing their loving mind over this.
There was no classified information that was being shared over Signal.
Signal is...
An encrypted app that's somewhat secured.
Was the conversation something that could have happened or should have happened?
I don't know.
But at least it was a conversation.
But to compare the two between Hillary Clinton and what President Trump's cabinet members were doing is absolutely absurd.
It's not even comparing apples and oranges.
At least both of those are somewhat in the same shape.
This is like comparing an apple to a steak.
There is no comparison at all between the two.
Hillary Clinton was sending classified documents that were stamped TS or TSSCI.
There was no classified documents, there was no classified information, it may have been sensitive but it was an open conversation that was taking place over an important issue.
And we should be glad that the conversation took place.
that people had input.
It was thoughtful.
It was collective.
And at the end of the day, they did the right thing.
They went right after this terrorist organization and shut them up.
Thank God we have a president that's leading from strength.
owen shroyer
So not only...
Is it a nothing burger?
You have Warner demanding the release.
Your boy Goldberg already published it.
So what are you demanding?
Just go ask your boy Goldberg.
But think about it like this.
So really they're trying to target Hegseth.
The operation looks like they're trying to target Hegseth because they've hated Hegseth.
They don't want him anywhere near the administration.
And so to me it's another anti-Hegseth attack to try to get him fired or get him removed.
It's not going to work.
But... Oh, by the way, and it's not just Hillary Clinton.
The Biden's selling information.
The Clinton's selling information.
So let's just...
I mean, yeah, like you said, it's not comparing apples to oranges.
I mean, they actually did sell classified information and access.
This was an open thread.
But notice how, oh, they want to blame the Trump administration or they want to blame Pete Hegseth.
But nobody wants to blame Jeff Goldberg.
Now, Look, you could take either approach here that, hey, you don't publish that stuff.
I mean, to him, he clearly knew.
I mean, he basically admits I'm doing a bad thing by publishing it, but he does it anyway because he's a scumbag.
But, okay, you can understand.
You're a journalist, whatever.
You've got to get a story.
So you go ahead and you run with it.
You get it.
You know it's not supposed to be yours, and you shouldn't do it, and you have an ethics problem, perhaps.
But, hey, whatever.
You're a journalist.
You do it.
So, but where are the Democrats going after Goldberg?
Notice how he's somehow above it all.
The guy that actually published them.
unidentified
But see, that says it all.
He's working for the Democrats.
owen shroyer
So they're not going to attack their operative.
Who might have been working with somebody in the Trump administration, whoever put him on the thread, obviously, that's a question that will probably be asked and answered by the Trump administration, whether they're taking this thing seriously or not.
They'll probably find out who did it, and the common belief seems to be it was Walls.
But regardless, nobody's attacking Goldberg.
The guy that actually published it.
The guy that actually published it for the world, and nobody's attacking him because it was all a Democrat op.
unidentified
And that's all you need to know.
owen shroyer
At the end of the day, that's all you need to know.
So they're up in arms, and they're screaming at Tulsi Gabbard for the documents, even though they were already published.
But nobody, nobody, nobody in the Democrats, nobody in the mainstream media, nobody's pointing the finger at Goldberg.
The guy that actually published it, nope, not him.
Can't go after him.
That's all you need to know.
Democrat op from the very beginning.
Okay, now I probably have the time to cover this Jasmine Crockett nonsense.
Can you believe this one?
First of all, listen to this.
Is this a congressman?
Is this a rapper?
Is this some girl twerking on the hood of her car at a gas station in Dallas in clip six?
unidentified
Because we in these hot-ass Texas streets, honey.
Honey. Y'all know we got Governor Hot Wheels down there.
Come on now.
And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot-ass mess, honey.
So, yes.
My God.
Yes, yes, yes.
owen shroyer
Should be criminal to wear that much makeup and cosmetics.
She's speaking at the Human Rights Campaign, calling Greg Abbott Governor Hot Wheels.
I'm all for a good joke?
Okay, interesting venue.
This, it's really, look, it is what it is.
unidentified
This is a ghetto, ratchet-ass bitch.
owen shroyer
But it's all an act.
She grew up very well off.
She went to private schools.
She can go look at her TV interviews five, ten years.
She didn't sound like this.
She's developed this new, she's like code switching.
That's what she's doing.
She put on the fake wig, she put on the fake eyelashes, she put on the 10 pounds of makeup, and now she's code-switching.
Yeah. And then she, oh, oh, did we predict this?
Did I not say, when she was getting into it with Marjorie Taylor Greene and then Anna Paulina Luna, I said, I said, you watch, this will be the first assault.
I said, you watch, Jasmine Crockett will assault somebody in the Capitol.
It was bound to happen.
You recognize the behavior.
She's totally off the rails.
That's her act now.
So here she does it.
Laura Loomer has one of her reporters down at the Capitol.
And Jasmine Crockett goes after the reporter here in Clip 7. Hello, Congresswoman.
unidentified
Well, that sounds like fun.
owen shroyer
Wait, Congresswoman Crockett.
unidentified
Congresswoman Crockett, you were recently on a Tesla takedown call calling for violence on the 29th.
Would you like to clarify your comments?
As you can see.
Congresswoman, will you condone violence at the Tesla?
owen shroyer
So the reporter has now filed an assault charge with the D.C. police and attempted robbery.
Just so you know what's going on there.
I mean, we called that one a mile away.
It wasn't too hard to predict.
Jasmine Crockett's behavior was all leading in one direction.
What an absolute embarrassment.
What an absolute embarrassment.
I wonder if the Democrats are going to try to primary her out.
Because she is just an absolute embarrassment.
I mean, she is just a mess.
But you have to understand, this is kind of the new thing.
Where she's not even thinking about her job as a congresswoman anymore.
All she's thinking about is social media.
So insult the governor by calling him Governor Hot Wheels because he's in a wheelchair.
It's good for social media.
Go out and act ratchet because it's good for social media.
So she really doesn't even care about the district.
All she cares about is her own personal profile.
I wonder if the Democrats are going to allow this to happen.
All right, we're halfway through the transmission.
You know, I got Pam Bondi.
She's back on Fox News.
Nobody's surprised.
I can't take anything she says seriously.
Starting to get that way with Alina Haba as well.
And I got her now with a clip talking about how, oh, everybody involved with the Epstein list is going to be going to jail.
some...
Some are saying Habba being moved to New Jersey was not a complimentary thing.
Quite the opposite, actually.
But you know what?
I'm not even going to play the clips.
I'm so sick of it.
It just means nothing to me anymore.
So I'm not even going to play it, but do you think Jasmine Crockett is scared of Pam Bondi?
Do you think Pam Bondi is putting fear into Jasmine Crockett?
Clearly not.
She just attacked a reporter today, so I don't think Crockett fears Bondi much.
I'm not sure anybody does.
Maybe the makeup team making them work overtime.
So, you know what?
I'm not even going to bother with Bondi.
I'm not even going to bother with Haba.
I'm sick of the TV interviews.
It's like all they do.
Whatever. Maybe there's a rule for that.
Maybe there's a reason for it, but it's not for serious business.
We're just going to go ahead and just move on from that.
That's what we're going to do there.
How about this one, though?
How about this one?
Anybody surprised?
Where have we heard this before?
Latarsha Brown charged with placing a noose on her own desk.
Another fake hate crime?
Is that what we're dealing with here?
unidentified
Take a listen to the local report from Clip 9. The purpose of this press conference is to provide an update regarding the noose investigation.
I want to take a moment to thank the following agencies who assisted in this case.
Lehigh County District Attorney's Office, the Pennsylvania State Police Crime Lab, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The out-town police department conducted a thorough investigation, including interviews of persons, analysis of evidence, and consultation with the district attorney's office of Lehigh County.
As a result of the subsequent investigation, Latarsha Brown was charged with tampering with or fabricating physical evidence, a misdemeanor of the second degree, and false reports to law enforcement, a misdemeanor of the third degree.
As in every criminal case, the fact that a warrant has been issued or a complaint has been filed is merely an accusation.
The defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty in a court of law.
I'm now going to ask Captain Milkovitz to provide a summation of this investigation.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Captain Milkovitz, Criminal Investigations Division.
On January 10, 2025, at approximately 7.11 a.m., Allentown City employee LaTarsha Brown arrived at her office on the third floor of City Hall.
At approximately 7.38 a.m., Ms. Brown notified the Allentown Police Department that she discovered what she believed to be a noose on her desk upon arriving at work.
Officers assigned to the Community Outreach Unit, Crime Scene Identification Unit, and Criminal Investigations Unit responded.
Initiating a criminal investigation to identify the individual responsible for placing the noose on Ms. Brown's desk.
During the investigation, video surveillance and building access control records were reviewed to identify city employees present on the third floor of City Hall between the time Ms. Brown left for work on the afternoon of January 9, 2025, and her arrival on the morning of January 10. Those employees were interviewed.
Each was asked if they would provide a buckle swab for DNA testing if needed.
Every employee agreed, except for Ms. Brown.
Initially cooperative, Ms. Brown later requested that the investigation be discontinued.
The noose was submitted to the Pennsylvania State Police Crime Lab for DNA testing on January 14, 2025.
On January 24, 2025, a search warrant was approved by the Lehigh County District Attorney's Office for Ms. Brown's DNA.
And a DNA sample was obtained that same day.
On January 27, 2025, Ms. Brown's buckle swab was submitted to the Bethlehem Regional Crime Lab of the Pennsylvania State Police for comparison with DNA profiles recovered from the noose.
On March 10, 2025, the Forensic DNA Division of the Pennsylvania State Police issued a written report indicating that Ms. Brown's DNA matched the DNA profile obtained from the swabs of both the outer surface An inter-knotted portion of the noose after it was taken apart.
No other person's DNA profiles found on the evidentiary items involved in this investigation.
As a result of this investigation earlier today, Detective Harold Bonds of the Allentown Police Department filed charges against Latarsha Brown at District Court 312-01 for the criminal offenses outlined earlier by Chief Rocha.
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Isn't it just insane?
Allentown employee planted noose on her desk faces false report charges, police say.
Latarsha Brown, who works for the city's Community and Economic Development Department, faces charges of making false reports, a third-degree misdemeanor, and tampering with and fabricating physical evidence, second-degree.
Misdemeanor. So, I mean, aside from just typical Democrat behavior, false flagging themselves, this is how desperate they are.
It's the race hustle economy.
It's the victimhood Olympics.
And I guess there's so many benefits to becoming a race hustler victim that you're going to place a noose.
I mean, what is that?
Somebody came into your office and put a noose on your desk?
It's completely insane.
It's Bubba Wallace in the garage with a garage pull.
It's a noose!
It's a garage pull.
It's Jussie Smollett putting a string around his neck saying he was going to get noosed at 3am in Chicago, negative 5 degrees out, trying to get a Subway sandwich.
It's clown world.
unidentified
But they just can't help themselves.
owen shroyer
They just can't help it.
They want to be a victim so badly.
They want to be able to point at a white person and say, racist, noose, so badly.
But they got problems, folks, because Democrat voters are not happy.
Soulless piece of crap.
Angry protester jumps on stage during Democrat representative's town hall.
Derailed by anti-Doge protesters.
Yeah, they hate Doge.
This is in Illinois.
You are the most soulless piece of crap I've ever seen.
A pro-Palestinian protester yelled at Representative Sean Kasten, Democrat from Illinois, during his town hall in Downers Grove.
The event saw interruptions from several other individuals, most of whom were protesting issues related to Israel and Gaza.
Well, if they're not protesting that, they're protesting Doge.
If they're not protesting that, they're protesting Trump or the Democrats not doing enough about Trump.
They want more.
I mean, they want him dead.
It's like, why aren't you killing Trump?
That's really what they want to say.
Why aren't you killing Trump?
Why aren't you killing Musk?
That's really what they want.
These sick freaks.
Town halls are not going well for California Democrats.
Seems to be a trend.
An East Los Angeles resident shows her frustration during a town hall meeting with Representative Gil Cisneros.
Americans are getting increasingly concerned about President Trump and Elon Musk's gutting of the federal government, despite polls showing that's what the vast majority of Americans want.
I want to know why in the world the Democrat Party hasn't fought yet, asked one resident at a town hall.
Hasn't fought.
They've arrested Trump how many times, sued Trump how many times, tried to kill Trump, censored their political opposition, arrested their political opposition, attacked their political opposition, weaponized the government against Trump, weaponized the government against Musk, weaponized the government against Trump supporters, and the Democrats say, why haven't you done anything?
Why haven't you attacked?
What are they saying, folks?
I'm translating you.
I'm translating Democrats speak to you right now.
We want them dead.
It used to be you might have been able to appease a radical Democrat by maybe putting him in jail, and that would have been like their ultimate wet dream.
And I've said this, and I don't mean to be graphic, but it's worthy of saying again because it's just the case.
These liberals have been politically masturbating for nine years.
They have been politically masturbating at this idea that we're going to get Trump, we're going to get him in jail, we're going to kill him.
I'm not trying to be graphic, but it's the best analogy I can give you.
They have been sitting there and masturbating politically for nine years about getting Trump.
And now it's an added thing about getting Musk.
unidentified
And they can't finish.
owen shroyer
They just can't finish.
So now they're...
I mean, I got more vehicles, Tesla vehicles getting keyed, getting attacked.
We can play the videos all day long.
They're showing up at their own town hall meetings.
They're going nuts, folks.
They are so frustrated here.
And, I mean, they've always been psychotics.
This was back in January 2022.
60% of Democrats in January of 2022 wanted to fine you if you didn't take a vaccine.
60% of Democrats wanted to lock you in your house if you didn't take a vaccine.
50% wanted to send you to a camp if you didn't take a vaccine.
30% wanted to take children from their parents if they didn't take a vaccine.
50% wanted to put you in prison if you criticized the vaccine.
Now, of course, when Trump was president and he talked about the vaccine, then it was the worst vaccine ever, don't take it.
Biden and Harris both said don't take it, but then Biden became president and then they said take it.
These people are nuts.
There's no other way to put it.
They're completely nuts.
And radicalism is taking over.
And look, I really wouldn't even bother to give this woman any attention because she doesn't deserve it.
She's a failed media critic.
But she's now rebranded.
You may have, if you've been around on social media for a while and you really follow politics, you may remember a couple years ago there was this blonde bimbo that was working for Media Matters and Mother Jones called Cat Abu.
And basically her entire job was to attack Tucker Carlson.
So I'm guessing Media Matters and Mother Jones just paid her and said, your job is to attack Tucker Carlson.
Now, obviously she's a nobody.
Nobody knows who she is.
Tucker Carlson is one of the biggest names and hosts in political media.
But she's been irrelevant for years after Tucker left Fox News.
So she's rebranded herself now.
She's rebranded herself.
She is now Kat Abu Ghazala.
And she's got her little Muslim garb in the background of her new podcast studio.
But she's running for office.
Now, again, it's not about, this girl is completely irrelevant.
Why am I bringing this up?
Because this is the radical left, like chum in the water, like, oh, I can be the next AOC.
I can be the next Jasmine Crockett.
This is what's popular in Democrat Party politics now.
We're getting rid of Schumer.
We're getting rid of moderate Democrats.
We're getting rid of the classic Democrat that's not completely psychotic.
So now people like this, and I'm sure a lot of this is astroturfed anyway, just like her whole career has been.
I mean, is it worth playing the videos and showing you how dumb she is, though?
This is what they're running, folks.
And Democrats must be behind her.
She raised a quarter million dollars since announcing and rebranding herself.
But she's she's out here cursing in these Listen to this.
This is this is this is her running for office in clip 10.
unidentified
Democrats should also move away from the dominance of small-dollar donors whose preferences may not align with the broader electorate.
Excuse me, what the f***?
Small dollar donors?
You mean the average American who can only spare like five to ten bucks because they're living paycheck to paycheck?
owen shroyer
Biden economy.
unidentified
That is the broader electorate.
owen shroyer
So she drops an F-bomb, she drops an MF-bomb while she's doing campaign videos talking about donors.
Well, what are you going to do?
You better go out and assault a journalist.
You know?
If you really want to be the next Jasmine Crockett.
You gotta go out and insult a handicapped person, assault a journalist.
Come on, cat!
This will be the next failed endeavor of your career, cat.
But keep astroturfing.
I'm sure you make a good living doing it.
Or maybe not now that the USAID...
Maybe that's what it is.
Now that the USAID funding has dried up, maybe Mother Jones Media Matters can't pay her anymore so she's grifting off whatever remains of the radical Democrat donors.
That might be more accurate.
Then there's another video of her.
She's just dumb.
There's no other way to put it.
She's just not very smart.
That's the future of the Democrat Party.
That's the future.
But she'll get some donations and, you know, she'll curse on her podcast while asking for donations because she wants to be the next radical left.
And they sense blood in the water, chum in the water, so they're all moving in.
So they're all moving in, ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, Obama now weighing in on that race in Wisconsin, so you know they need this.
You know it.
Obama says, if you live in Wisconsin or have friends or family who do...
There's an important Supreme Court race happening right now and there's only one candidate ready to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of Wisconsinites, Judge Susan Crawford.
Yes, her fundamental rights are under attack.
These people just steal your money, open your borders, but it's your fundamental right to an abortion.
It doesn't even exist.
It's a right to kill your kid.
No, it's not.
Actually, it's murder.
But that's their big thing.
We've all seen how important judges are in protecting our rights, so vote early.
Don't wait until April 1st.
Find your early vote location.
So Obama campaigning now.
Yeah, they need this, folks.
They need to redistrict.
They need to gerrymander.
They need to steal as much as they can politically because they're losing so much.
They are so desperate.
They are so desperate right now.
Now, the Gabbard hearing today.
Got a little out of control, as you can imagine.
And somehow, Senator King decided to start yapping about climate change because Gabbert doesn't buy into it.
Listen to this in clip five.
unidentified
I want to move on.
One note that surprised me.
I've been on this committee now for, this is my 13th year.
Every single one of these reports that we have had has mentioned global climate change as a significant national security threat.
Except this one.
Has something happened?
Has global climate change been solved?
Why is that not in this report?
And who made the decision that it should not be in the report when it's been in every one of the 11 prior reports?
tulsi gabbard
I can't speak to the decisions made previously, but this annual threat assessment has been focused very directly on the threats that we deem most critical to the United States and our national security.
Obviously, we're aware of occurrences within the environment and how they may impact operations, but we're focused on the direct threats to Americans' safety, well-being, and security.
unidentified
How about how they will impact mass migration, famine, dislocation, political violence, which is the finding, by the way, of the 2019 annual threat assessment under the first Trump administration.
Do you don't consider that a significant national security threat?
tulsi gabbard
For the intelligence community, being aware of the environment that we're operating in is a given.
What I focused this annual threat assessment on and the IC focused this threat assessment on are the most extreme and critical direct threats to our national security.
unidentified
Let me ask a direct question.
Who decided climate change should be left out of this report after it's been in the prior 11?
Where was that decision?
tulsi gabbard
I gave direction to our team at ODNI to focus on the most extreme and critical national security threats that we face.
unidentified
Your direction include no comments on climate change?
tulsi gabbard
Senator, as I said, I focus on the most extreme and direct national security threats that we face.
unidentified
That's not a response to my question.
Did you instruct that there be no finding in terms of climate change in this report?
tulsi gabbard
I don't recall giving that instruction.
unidentified
Final questions in a few short seconds that I have left.
You all concede, and it's in the report repeatedly, about the cyber danger from China.
owen shroyer
Speaking of China, why isn't China concerned about climate change?
It's because they already have a communist government.
unidentified
See? Mm-hmm.
owen shroyer
They don't need to convince you to worry about climate change.
They're already communists.
But imagine, yeah, I'm the director of national intelligence, or I'm in charge of national security, and I'm going to wake up and I'm going to think about the weather.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm going to think about climate and how I can change the weather.
I can't fix a pothole downtown, but I'll fix the weather.
owen shroyer
But he says in his opening remarks from that clip, he says, Have we solved climate change?
Well, you know what, Senator King?
Let me actually respond to that.
I'm going to say yes, actually.
I'm actually going to declare right here today that we have solved climate change.
Because I'm just going to go off the Democrats' own numbers at this point.
So I'm just using Democrat data and talking points to prove that we actually indeed have solved climate change.
And you don't have to go back that far.
You can just look right here in this millennia.
Al Gore, with his projections from his documentary, documentary, and Inconvenient Truth, said we would all be dead.
All the polar ice caps would be melted.
We'd all be flooded.
The earth would be completely different.
That was just 25 years ago, he said all that.
And it didn't happen, so we did solve climate change.
Isn't that amazing?
We did!
unidentified
We did it!
owen shroyer
Congratulations! They put the big signs at Glacial Park, and it said these glaciers will all be melted by 2020.
It's 2025!
They've expanded!
The glaciers have expanded!
We did it!
We beat climate change!
Well, hold on.
Hold on, actually.
Actually, guys.
Oh, oh, oh!
No, I think it's coming up on March 27th.
There was a big climate change protest on March 27th.
I forget the year, but it said we'll all be dead, I believe, in 12 years.
So I guess you do the math, whatever.
And they were chaining themselves to tennis nets at tennis matches, and they were running onto soccer fields, and they were doing all of it.
And it said, in 12 years, we'll all be dead.
And it'll be 12 years and two days and we're still here.
Did we solve climate change?
The only one who still hasn't been totally proven wrong yet is AOC.
But according to AOC, we'll all be dead in two years.
So AOC maybe is keeping climate change alive.
So I guess we haven't beat it yet.
But according to Al Gore, we have.
According to Al Gore, we have.
According to the Glacier Park, we have.
According to the big climate protesters.
We have beat climate change.
We've actually done it.
So to answer the question, Senator King, we have successfully beat climate change.
We have done it.
Except we're all gonna be dead in two years, according to AOC.
But I'll go ahead and bet that we're gonna make it.
I'm gonna bet we're gonna make it.
But you know what?
Maybe if you bomb a couple more Tesla dealerships, maybe if you try to blow up a couple more Tesla cars and batteries, Maybe then the threat of climate change might return.
So you got your work cut out.
I don't know how many Teslas the Democrats are going to have to blow up.
I don't know how many Tesla dealerships the Democrats are going to have to blow up.
But go ahead.
Keep bombing the Teslas.
Keep bombing the Tesla dealerships.
We know that's what you're all about.
You're violent terrorists.
But you'll probably have to blow up 100,000 Teslas and blow up 100 Tesla dealerships.
And then maybe climate change might be an issue again once you've blown up the lithium-ion batteries that run them and set the buildings on fire that sell them.
Then you might get climate change back.
Of course, I'm being facetious.
We're not encouraging any Democrat terrorism.
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jon bowne
The French are stirring the pot and demanding the Statue of Liberty back.
A center-left French MEP, Raphael Glucksmann, is throwing a tantrum, claiming America's gone rogue under Trump, siding with tyrants, and torching the values that made Lady Liberty a gift worth giving in 1886.
Glucksmann says, we gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it, so it'll be just fine here at home.
Of course, the statue of Lady Liberty has come to represent everything the Trump administration is fighting for.
And New York City already lost the Twin Towers.
Lady Liberty is a bridge too far.
unidentified
Video cameras caught trucks arriving at the World Trade Center from about August 23rd until every night until about September 2nd, September 3rd.
And the trucks were arriving at about 3 o'clock in the morning when everybody else had left the building, including the janitorial trucks.
And the trucks were leaving at 5 a.m. right before the AAA personalities of Wall Street got to work to start their day.
Something was brought into that building.
That would help with the detonation.
There may have been work done on the detonation before.
It may have been going on for months, but whatever they needed at the very end, they came and brought in that 10-day period.
That's what we think happened.
The airplane hijackings were a cover for the controlled demolition, which was undertaken by a small group of people, probably just four or five people.
We are never going to know who they are, and it's not worth looking for them.
And in August of 2001, I was told to stay out of New York City because the attack was considered imminent.
We expected mass casualties and a possible miniature thermonuclear strike bomb.
However, I want to be very clear.
The attack was always defined as airplane hijackings and a strike on the world.
jon bowne
It isn't a symbol of globalism to the majority of Americans, as Glucksman appears to have twisted its meaning in his tiny Trump derangement syndrome brain.
But Glucksman has raised a nagging question.
The Statue of Liberty was designed by French Freemason Auguste Bartholdi, and gifted in 1884, perched atop a star fort, bathed in the glow of the moon and stars, stands the Statue of Liberty, a monument dripping with occult fingerprints.
That torch blazing in her hand, as intended by its creator, it's no beacon of freedom to him.
It's the flame of forbidden knowledge handed down by Lucifer himself to keep his cult alive and kicking.
Her left foot shackled tight?
That wasn't a symbol of slavery to Bartholdi.
It was a silent nod to the Creator's wrath.
Chaining those fallen angels in hell for spawning their freakish human-angel hybrids.
From day one, there was a spiritual battle over this new Atlantis.
Many powerful families hid in the shadows intending on America being Satan's playground.
And when those European immigrants rolled in, bleary-eyed and hopeful, the first thing staring them down was this towering idol, Lucifer and Drag.
The whore of Babylon welcoming them to the land of the devil's colony.
The French didn't just hand us a statue, they slipped us a coded relic of their revolutionary occultism.
So yeah, Glucksman, as much as the statue has come to represent precisely what we are now fighting for, its original sentiment was as perverse as the globalist hellhole you currently shoot your mouth from.
John Bowne reporting for InfoWars.
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Anything we've discussed today is fair game.
Let's get back into the remaining news as we get your calls up on the board.
So, we could play these videos all day.
I've got, now this is in Canada, so you can't really blame our law enforcement for this.
Maybe there needs to be a joint investigation into the Democrat terror group.
It seems to have expanded itself to Canada.
Calgary Tesla Model Y set on fire with a Molotov cocktail.
So that's nice and loving.
Very liberal.
And then you have a cyber truck in Berkeley, California getting keyed.
This one is actually a wild one.
It's caught on camera here.
Folks, this is an elderly lady who, I guess, needs walking sticks, or maybe she just takes him around with her, and she's scoping the scene.
She sees a Tesla Cybertruck.
She goes back to her vehicle to grab her keys, and then she goes and keys the vehicle.
I guess it's not a truck.
Maybe it's a Tesla SUV here.
It is a truck.
So there were multiple Teslas in the parking lot.
I guess she only decided to key the truck here.
unidentified
I mean, it's really crazy.
owen shroyer
It's really crazy.
And, man, you know, I'll tell you, folks, I was up at a car dealership today.
I had to get some work done on my vehicle.
It just so happens it's right there by the Tesla dealership.
And I'm sitting in there talking to the guy who's handling my car.
And I didn't even know it, but after we kind of finished business, he was like, hey, by the way, you know, everybody here is a big fan.
Really appreciate it.
unidentified
Keep up the good work.
owen shroyer
And then we just started talking politics.
It's like huge.
I'm sure we have a lot of people in the car industry tuned in.
In fact, I know we do.
I talked to some of them.
It's like huge people talking about this now.
The whole Tesla thing.
So, you really can't go anywhere without being exposed to the Democrat Party terrorism.
And then, you know, the gentleman brought up the swatting and he said, yeah, I've been hearing about that.
I said, yeah, it happened to me.
I mean, it's just common knowledge now.
This is how insane it's gotten.
It's just totally common knowledge that the left are violent radicals.
But the truth is, they always have been.
But the reason why it's so crazy about that old lady, the protest that happened here over the weekend, it was like mostly old ladies.
Like really, like the average attendee at this tiny little protest at the Tesla dealership, which ended up having a bomb placed at it the other day.
unidentified
The average person was like a 60-year-old lady.
What is that?
owen shroyer
What is convincing a 60-year-old lady to go out and protest Tesla or key a Cybertruck?
That's like a serious psychological phenomenon right there.
Can you imagine your grandmother doing that?
I think about my grandmothers.
I'm lucky enough to have one left, my last remaining grandparent.
I mean, but I think about my grandmother's sweetest ladies, just wanted everybody to be happy, just wanted to take care of people.
I mean, caretakers, love their family.
unidentified
What is this?
owen shroyer
What kind of a psychological phenomenon is this with grandmas?
Maybe they don't have kids.
Going out and committing acts?
unidentified
Of vandalism.
owen shroyer
What? There's a new wave of crime.
Grandma-granny vandalism.
That is seriously messed up.
But see, remember we played the video.
Guys, was it last week?
Honestly, everything's a blur.
I think it was last week when we played that one guy who was admitting it.
Yeah, it was last week.
Some liberal Democrat admitting, he says, I...
I have quit my job.
Maybe we should pull it back up.
He says, I have quit my job and I no longer leave my house because I am a threat to the public.
I am a danger to the community.
I am a Democrat.
And if I know you voted for Trump or I know you support Trump or you support Musk, I am a danger to you.
Hello? Right to the rubber room.
Hi, institution.
We have a subject for you.
So we got both the clips now, but there's a new one.
This is a woman now.
Women! Man, liberalism and modern-day feminism has really destroyed femininity.
But I suppose that's another topic.
So here's this woman basically saying the same thing, except with Tesla.
That's her trigger that triggers her mass psychosis phenomenon.
Her mental disorder is Tesla.
unidentified
Here it is, clip 15. When I see people driving a Tesla and they do not have one of those, Elon Musk went off the rails and I'm sorry that I have this now, like this type of bumper sticker.
You know what I'm talking about?
When I see people driving a Tesla and they do not have that bumper sticker, I am judging you.
owen shroyer
They can't help themselves, folks.
Here's the guy from last week.
Says, I'm a danger.
I have a severe problem.
I'm a threat to the public.
So at least he's keeping himself home so he doesn't represent a danger or go attack a Tesla or a Tesla dealership or something.
But it's the same psychosis.
Listen, here it is from last week.
unidentified
Because I'm not safe.
It's not safe for me to be around you guys.
It's not safe for you.
None of you.
If you see my face and know me, I had to quit my job because I was going to come after you.
I could not trust myself not to hurt you.
owen shroyer
Wow. Quote, I could not trust myself not to hurt you.
What more do you need to know about these people?
What more do we have to hear?
What more do we have to see?
Guys, see if you can find Chase Geyser's post.
I think it was from yesterday.
I meant to print it.
But he was absolutely right.
What does that say?
When you have to put a bumper sticker.
These are liberals, by the way.
When you have to put a bumper sticker on your car that says, hey, you know.
I don't like Elon Musk, or I bought this before he went full Nazi, whatever it is.
We've seen all the bumper stickers.
They sell them everywhere.
What does that say?
Think about it.
Here's the exact post.
If you have to explain to members of your political party why they shouldn't vandalize your property, then you are in the wrong political party.
So that's what Chase said last night.
And I thought of that, and I'm like, yeah.
This is liberals basically admitting we're terrorists.
unidentified
Think about it.
owen shroyer
Hey, we the left are violent, radical terrorists.
And if you drive a Tesla, we're going to vandalize your vehicle.
So, if you're a liberal and you don't want us terrorists...
To destroy your property, you better put this bumper sticker on it.
By the way, the nice communists, I'm sure they sell them.
Hey guys, find out how much the nice commie bumper stickers are.
Would you for me?
What do you guys think they go for?
Like a $9.99 to pop?
I'm going to go over under $9.99.
I think they're charging a nice upcharge because, I mean, you're talking about your vehicle here.
We're talking about a $50,000.
How much does a Tesla run you?
Probably at least $50,000.
I'm not into electric vehicles.
I don't know.
I've never looked into it.
I'm guessing a new Tesla is at least $50,000.
Ooh, you got it, $599,000.
8% off.
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
gosh.
owen shroyer
Oh, that's one of them.
How many options do we have here?
We got the anti-Elon Club.
Ooh, that one's going for...
Ooh, you can get a discount on that one.
$4.99.
Yeah, $6.99.
Ooh, there's a $9.99.
We're making a nice buck here.
Love the car, hate Musk.
I'm not a fan of EVs.
I don't really like them.
I don't think I would ever own one.
I don't know, maybe.
But it's hilarious to me because it is, you think about an electric vehicle, it's traditionally kind of like a liberal thing.
I mean, five years ago, it was a very liberal thing.
EVs probably aren't even that old, maybe 10 years or so.
And Musk kind of revolutionized it, and then it went kind of mainstream with all the car industries.
But really, that was all subsidized.
The only reason, even Tesla, but really, the only thing that mainstreamed electric vehicles was the subsidies from the Obama years.
So I guess it was more than 10 years ago now.
Yeah, this one has an anti-Musk, but a gay flag, too.
So then you're really showing how great liberal you are.
Hey, don't terrorize my vehicle, liberals.
I have a sticker.
Don't you see my gay flag sticker?
I mean, you've got to cover your car now.
Gay flag, coexist.
That should be like an SNL skit.
If we had the time and the crew, we could do it ourselves.
It's like, oh, I drive a Tesla now.
unidentified
Oh, don't worry.
owen shroyer
I've got the bumper sticker.
unidentified
Oh, thank God.
owen shroyer
But it used to be a liberal thing, so it's probably mostly liberals that own these vehicles.
And now they're terrorizing themselves, so they have to buy a bumper sticker because they're admitting, all right, liberals are terrorists, so I'm putting a sticker on my car so that the terrorists don't attack my vehicle.
This is where we're at.
This is the year 2025.
unidentified
This is the year 2025.
owen shroyer
Makes for great political content.
Makes my job easy.
I mean, I could do a whole three-hour show on it.
But I don't want to live like this.
I really don't.
I don't want to live like this forever.
I don't want to deal with leftist terrorists forever.
I don't.
So, you know what?
We got a caller from Kuwait.
So I guess we got to go to Kuwait.
We don't want him hanging on the line for so long.
Glenn wants to talk about this in Kuwait.
Glenn, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Owen, how you doing, brother?
owen shroyer
I'm good.
Thank you.
unidentified
Man, while you hit on it, I was going to go into how this was a continuation of the COVID mass formation psychosis.
But one thing I haven't heard anybody mention is you go back to the BLM riot slash terrorism.
Who was behind it?
We come to find out China's financing it.
Now you look at Tesla.
Who's their competition?
The China EVs.
When are we going to find out?
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you what, let's look at this from a very analytical aspect.
I don't know the name of the vehicle, but there's a new EV out of China, and then Musk kind of had some struggles with China, and then I guess he was able to get Teslas in China, then they were very popular.
But there's a new...
There's a new EV in China that's coming in at a lower cost, and I think its sales just eclipsed, right?
I think the new one just eclipsed Tesla in China, if I'm not mistaken.
Well, we'll have the crew look it up.
We'll have the crew look it up.
It's actually an amazing thing.
You know, there's all kinds of vehicles.
I didn't learn this until recently because I met somebody that had a vehicle that was in China, made in China.
And I forget what it was called, but I saw it driving.
And I was just like, whoa, that's a cool-looking car.
It's kind of like a Chinese Jeep.
BYD. China's BYD overtakes Tesla as the world's top EV seller.
What was amazing about this, I saw this Chinese car drive.
I didn't know what it was.
I'd never seen it.
I was like, whoa, that's cool.
We looked it up.
It's a Chinese car.
There's a whole crazy thing out there about why we don't get all these cars.
And it all comes down to tariffs, funny enough.
But there's a bunch of different vehicles.
Specifically in China that rarely, if ever, make it here because of the tariffs and how expensive it is to get it.
And what's wild is you can basically get the equivalent of like a Nissan SUV, a Toyota SUV, whatever it is, these vehicles made in China, and it's like half the price.
But because the tariffs are so steep, nobody orders them here because then it ends up being more expensive.
Regardless, you bring up an interesting point.
So let me get back to the point.
The USAID funding that was funneling itself to all these leftist agitation groups has been cut off.
At least some of it.
Maybe not all of it yet.
Maybe most of it.
But they've lost that funding.
So maybe now they are outsourcing it to China.
Just at the larger scale.
So I don't know if it really has...
I mean, I don't know if China...
The reason why I bring up that car story, because I don't know if China has really any interest in hurting Tesla in America because you're not buying a Chinese vehicle.
BYD is not on the market in America because they just don't send vehicles over here.
It's not worth the price for you to pay the tariffs and the shipping and everything.
So you never see them.
So I don't know if there's any interest for China to be funneling money directly to, you know, attack Tesla dealerships.
But I could easily see these big leftist groups.
Looking for a new source of funding and trying to maybe find Chinese money to do that.
I could see that happening.
unidentified
Yeah, that's definitely not a bad point.
And I'll leave you with this one, and I'll clear the air for somebody.
You know, discernment is something that we're given by the Lord to be able to discern.
And when you look and you see these people where...
You know, a year ago it was on a Tesla or you're evil or wear a mask or you're evil.
And they're just NPCs that just, like a feather in the wind, they blow wherever the wind goes.
And they lack that discernment.
And I think it comes down to a Christianity thing with them.
And Owen, I appreciate your time.
Take care, brother.
And the answer from 1984, 1776.
owen shroyer
Thank you, Glenn.
Well, you know, there's no doubt.
This isn't even, I think it's just logical, deductive reasoning here.
If you don't believe in God, if you don't believe that this is a divine creation, then you really don't believe in morals.
You don't believe in consciousness.
So really, do you even believe in right and wrong?
At that point, everything just becomes ends justifying the means or whatever is pragmatic for you or your ideas.
So yeah, you don't have remorse.
You don't feel bad.
Because you don't even think everything is meaningless.
So there's definitely something, and it has been studied, where godless people tend to be more violent and criminal.
So it really just makes sense.
I mean, if you want to be really specific, if you think you're going to heaven or hell based off of your activities on earth or while you're alive, then...
Probably more motivated to be a good person.
I don't think that's too hard to break down.
So yeah, they're godless.
But you know what?
Maybe there's actually something bigger to that.
Maybe it's not something you just breeze over.
Because it is true.
You go back and you look at America.
You go back just two, three generations when most people in this country were Christians.
Most people in this country had a church community or went to church.
I mean, just look at your grandparents.
You're really only two, three generations removed from a Christian household, a Christian upbringing, a Christian community going to church.
And maybe there's a correlation there.
I bet you could even do line graphs and they would probably be right there.
As Christianity or maybe just atheism.
So it's like Christianity drops, atheism goes up.
It's like crime goes up.
Like good behavior goes down.
Yeah, that's definitely a real correlation.
Let's go to Robert in Florida.
Robert, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Hey, Owen.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I got two slogans.
Make common sense great again.
And the other one should be Dr. We need to make mental health great again.
We need to have a division.
And send these people to Mexico, and they all can get put on Ibogaine and rewire their brain.
But all they're doing is destroying themselves by showing their true mental capacity.
And I lived in Seattle for a long, long time, and it runs rampant there.
And it's a lot to do with the drugs and, you know, the SSRIs.
It's easier to get on a pill than it is to get your head straight.
owen shroyer
Well, think about it like this.
And maybe it's a parenting issue, too.
But there's a reason why discipline is a thing.
There's a reason why discipline is a thing and it's effective.
And there's a reason why you discipline your kids.
It's so that you can raise them to be better adults.
It's really not, you know, it's pretty well understood.
But when you don't discipline your kid, they end up...
You know, being kind of ornery, kind of naughty, and then who knows, they're getting themselves into trouble.
You can see the studies with fatherless households or children that don't have fathers.
They're more inclined to wind up in prison or commit crimes.
So I kind of look at these radical leftist, you know, deranged individuals that are clearly suffering in many different capacities.
But, you know, I wonder, did their parents never discipline them?
But regardless, they're not getting disciplined now.
So they've been attacking Trump supporters since 2016, nothing.
They've been burning cities to the ground since, well, really since in recent history, you go back to the Mike Brown protests, but let's just, even more recent, 2020, BLM, burning things to the ground, no punishment.
And now it's the same thing, burning Teslas, calling in fake police reports, all this stuff, no punishment.
They have to be disciplined.
They have to be punished.
They need to go to jail.
They're not learning a lesson.
They didn't learn it when they were kids, and they're not learning it now.
So maybe that's your, maybe it's not even necessarily as much a mental health thing, just they've never been punished.
I'm glad.
You see this debate now with parenting.
It's like, oh, and whatever, teach their own, I suppose, but, oh, I'd never, you know, I'd never.
Beat my kid or whatever.
It's a bad way to put it.
But no, I'm glad that when I acted up, my mom or dad would grab a wooden spoon or even a belt and beat my ass.
I'm glad I did that.
I'm glad I went through that.
I'm glad I had parents that disciplined me.
I'm not mad at my parents for that.
I'm glad.
Yeah. Oh, oh.
You don't want to discipline your kid.
The kid needs to run the house, and then they end up going and burning a Tesla dealership, burning a Tesla.
All right, Robert, thanks for the call.
We're going to take a bunch more calls here.
I'm going to come back and cover this news, and then we've got a crazy story.
unidentified
Let's go to break with clip 14. Two Mexicans arrested for just a despicable act here, clip 14. Those two men, who are named Jose Prudencio and Ricardo Mondragon, were on board the Royal Caribbean ship Independence of the Seas, according to arrest paperwork.
A 14-year-old boy who was also on that ship told investigators he was in the sauna on March 20th, along with both men, who he did not know, when they exposed themselves, molested him.
And he says one of the men, Mondragon, raped him.
Both men were arrested and went before a judge who agreed with prosecutors who asked that the men be held without bond.
The defendant in this case was acting in concert with another defendant.
They were both on a cruise.
This shows that they tried to target a specific minor, and this could be done again.
Both men are facing several felony charges, including lewd and lascivious molestation of a minor.
Mondragon is also charged with sexual battery.
owen shroyer
All right, let's hit a couple of these big stories and then go back to the phone lines.
Okay, I've exhausted my video list.
Good job.
We got some stacks on news.
This story actually just picked up some steam because a Clinton judge just stopped this deportation.
But look, I gotta be honest.
I don't know where...
I see a lot of conservatives.
I see a lot of Trump supporters jumping on this deportation bandwagon of the college students.
And look, in my opinion, it's all way out of place.
It's all way out of place.
And... While if you commit a crime during a protest on a college campus, then you commit a crime and you should pay the price.
But should you be facing extra heavy sentencing because of the nature of your protest being against Israel?
Should you be deported even though you're a lawful, legal resident for said protest?
Should you be deemed a terrorist?
Even though perhaps you have committed a crime, you have not actually committed a violent crime.
There are no individual victims.
I'm not on this board.
I'm not on this board.
I don't like it.
I don't like where the conversation is going.
And there's one case that I was already going to cover today, but it just broke now.
A Clinton judge has stepped in and stopped this young girl from being deported.
Now, she did illegally occupy a building.
And she did get a charge interfering with an administration operation or something like that.
I forget what it was.
This is Yeon Seo Chung, 21-year-old junior at Columbia University.
She is a legal resident.
She's been here since she moved here with her parents from Korea when she was seven.
And there's this huge move now to deport her.
Why? Why are conservatives cheering this on?
It's actually kind of deranged, to be honest.
She did commit a crime.
She is going through the legal process.
She was charged with the crime.
She was detained.
She has an ongoing court case.
And she will likely...
I mean, she'll probably plea and then take a bunch of community service or probation is what would happen.
And I think that's...
Perfectly fine.
Again, she didn't hurt anybody.
She was at a protest.
The protest moved into a building.
They illegally occupied the building.
Cops, local cops, rounded them up.
Why are we targeting 21-year-old college students that just attended a protest and then did something stupid?
And why are Trump supporters, I guess it's like the fervor of the moment.
It's like, oh, we got this victory and You know, Trump supporters were targeted all these years and, you know, Trump was targeted and all this stuff.
But you know what I noticed as I'm watching the commentary of this that began last night?
The people like myself that have actually been politically persecuted and targeted, we're not the ones cheering this stuff on.
It's people you've never even heard of.
It's the Johnny-come-latelys.
It's the Sunshine Patriots.
It's not people that were here in 2016 or 2020, but they came around in 2024, hopped on the bandwagon, and got some social media presence.
It's really ugly to me.
I don't like it.
And I don't like the federal government involved.
The local authorities, the local police, the college police, they can handle this.
This is a 21-year-old.
She's been here since she was seven.
Her family is here.
She's a legal resident, and you're going to deport her?
What is that?
Why are you cheering that on?
I'm sorry, but something's wrong with you.
Sorry if this is hurting people's feelings that might disagree, but I'm sorry.
You're in the wrong here, and it's actually disgusting.
These are not violent criminals.
This should not be a priority of the federal government.
And quite frankly, you're becoming exactly what the left is claiming you've become.
If this is what you're going to do.
Now, Mahmoud Khalil is a bit of a different story, and there might be some foreign stuff going on with that.
This is just a young girl.
Gets caught up in a college protest.
Probably, who knows what decision process went into going into that building and staying there.
It's a young kid.
And you're going to deport her to Korea where her family isn't even there anymore?
How cold-hearted are we?
Come on, man!
She got her arrest.
She got her charges.
She's going to go through something.
Probation? Some jail time?
I don't know.
Let's deport somebody who's here legally, whose family all moved here from Korea.
Let's deport her and let's cheerlead her.
Yeah, go back to Korea.
It's ridiculous.
This is not who we are, folks.
This is not who we are.
You're a violent terrorist.
You should get arrested.
You're targeting Teslas.
You're targeting Trump supporters with violence.
You're faking police reports to send SWAT to go murder somebody?
That's who we should be prioritizing for either deportation if they're illegal or long jail sentences.
Not some 21-year-old girl who's here legally, been here since she was seven, her family's here, and you're cheerleading, deporting her back to Korea?
I'm sorry, but there's something wrong with you.
And now, oh, and now it's because it's a Clinton judge.
See? Oh, these judges again.
It's a damn college protest.
I'm sick of the priorities here, man.
And what is it?
What is it with this weird...
It's all the new MAGA gatekeepers, by the way.
And they're probably all on some payroll, to be perfectly honest with you.
But you never heard of them in 2016.
You never heard of them in 2020.
Now they want to gatekeep everything MAGA.
And it's all sunshine patriots, totally mainstreaming.
It's like, yeah, send her back!
unidentified
Woo-hoo!
owen shroyer
But they won't say anything about all the victims of the swatting.
They barely raise a peep about the terrorists burning Teslas and Tesla dealerships.
But, oh, look, a 21-year-old girl.
Been here since he was seven.
Whole family here.
Yeah, Senator Korea.
Oh, look, a Democrat judge is stopping her.
You know what?
Maybe the judge is actually doing the right thing and maybe your heart has gone a little cold here.
Really getting sick of it, man.
Oh, and I'm sure, oh, oh, I would bet that'll be all over the news tonight.
They'll cover that on every big Fox News show.
But you gotta beg, if it wasn't for Will Kane, they wouldn't even be covering the swattings.
Which are still ongoing, by the way.
I had three pizzas delivered to my house last night.
It'll happen again.
They're kind of calmed down right now because we've raised a little heat, put a little pressure on the administration.
It'll ratchet back up.
If nobody gets arrested...
Which I don't anticipate is going to happen.
It'll ratchet back up.
For sure.
Now, here's somebody that needs to be deported.
Here's somebody where there needs to be a lot of effort to figure out what's going on.
I-35 deadly multi-vehicle crash.
New details on this crash that killed five, hospitalized 11. Two lawsuits seeking millions filed in fatal I-35 crash in Austin.
Semi-truck driver was impaired by CNS depressants.
Affidavits reveal.
But this is where it gets weird.
And I noticed none of the mainstream media articles are covering this angle.
So I have to go to independent researcher Sarah Fields, who's dug into this and exposed something that looks really bad.
Solomon Welk, Welk, Dekel Aria.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
An 18-wheeler driver who was arrested facing intoxication charges after this crash I just covered.
He was a contract driver for Amazon on a work visa from Ethiopia.
So we have a 21-year-old college student who didn't hurt anybody.
And we have conservatives cheerleading for her to be deported when her home country is America.
She doesn't have any family in Korea.
And there's a whole movement cheerleading for her to be deported.
And now they're complaining about a Clinton judge stopping it.
But where are the big voices about this?
Why isn't this guy being deported?
Why aren't people crying for this guy who actually killed five people, an Ethiopian, on a contract for Amazon?
Where are the cries?
You will barely hear anything about this, but you'll hear all about that young college girl because, yeah, we're getting those anti-Israel college protesters.
We're deporting them!
But no, this story gets even crazier, and Sarah Fields...
Tried to source where this work is coming from.
And if you go look at the thread, I'm not going to get into it now because I've got callers on the line and other news, but you go look at the thread, looks like she might have found what we know is going on where they have these hubs that are like hiring centers that the NGOs, they bring in all the non-citizens, they get to fast-track a work visa.
And then they can hire out this cheap labor for things like 18-wheeler drivers.
Now, there's been multiple cases like this, and they don't have the right training.
I mean, folks, do you think somebody from Ethiopia is, do you think there's a driving culture there like there is here?
It's like they talked about in Haiti.
How they moved all these Haitian migrants into these small towns and then car crashes increases like a thousand percent because they don't drive in Haiti.
They don't have cars.
They don't have roads.
It's not like you.
You turn 16. Most people, they turn 16. They're learning to drive or already driving.
It's not like that.
So they're bringing these people here who have likely never even driven a car.
And they're fast tracking them to get these work visas and then get cheap labor because look, it's...
Kind of a thankless job and the hours are tiring.
But, I mean, you drive freight.
That's a very important job.
And you can make a decent living.
I mean, you drive freight and you move a lot of freight.
You can make, I mean, really, if you really work a lot of hours, you can make six figures.
And there's different ways people handle it and having your own truck and everything.
But, I mean, so what?
So now Amazon and these other big companies are trying to...
Not make sure their freight haulers are getting paid a good salary so they're importing non-citizens, fast-tracking their visa, and then they don't even have proper training, they don't even have driving experience, and then they kill five people in a wreck?
But let's deport the young Asian girl whose family has been here from Korea since she was seven.
Yeah, that's the one.
Not all of these foreign fast-track work visa drivers hauling freight so that these big companies can get cheap labor.
And Americans can't drive freight.
But see, you watch.
This story, it's a big story in Austin.
This story won't make any national news, even though there's probably a huge, huge migrant worker problem with this story.
Won't even make the news tonight.
Won't even make the network news.
But that little young college student, oh, we'll cheerlead for her to be deported.
She's a problem.
Speaker Mike Johnson floats eliminating federal courts as GOP ramps up attacks on judges.
Well, that's the NBC headline.
No, the Republicans, the Trump administration is trying to find any way they can to stop these corrupt judges like James Boasberg, who are stopping Trump from deporting violent criminals using the Alien Enemies Act.
Violent criminals, murderers, rapists, gangbangers.
And there are such things like what Doge is doing.
And then you had Hawley in Missouri saying we're not going to do any national injunctions anymore.
So that's what they're trying to do.
Can Congress defund federal courts with key Trump budget process?
So now they're trying to find a way to work it and do it with the budget, which now they're pushing off into late summer, by the way.
It might have something to do with this.
Trump administration cuts additional $1 million in federal funding for transgender animal experiments.
Transgender animal experiments.
Senate Doge caucus chair said the Biden administration got caught in the woke mousetrap and wasted millions on tax dollars for transgender animal experiments.
Transgender animal experiments.
I mean, what in the hell is that?
What in the hell is a transgender animal experiment?
I don't want to know.
By the way, did you hear about this one?
Then there was a development today.
I didn't get to it yesterday, but then there was a development today.
23andMe files for bankruptcy as California Attorney General urges customers to delete their data because here's the deal.
This thing is actually looking really, really bad.
We'll see how it all ends up with the closure here, but it looks like they just gathered a bunch of data.
Your DNA data.
Your DNA.
Biological material.
And then they declared bankruptcy.
And then they're going to be selling off your biological, your DNA, your data.
They're just going to sell it off to basically the people that bankrupted the company.
Something very weird with that.
But the California Attorney General is saying, no, that's yours.
You can go on there and delete it.
But you really can't delete it.
They already have it, if we're being real.
But then everybody tried to rush to the website and delete the data.
And the website crashed.
Something weird's going on with that, folks.
This one does not pass the smell test.
So, I think there need to be some serious eyes or investigations on that.
And don't forget, you had a undercover video with the O'Keefe Media Group that had...
Nathaniel Johnson, policy advisor for the U.S. Department of Treasury, told OMG journalists that 23andMe had been sharing data with pharmaceutical companies, including foreign countries.
Something real, real fishy, real, real sketchy going on with this.
Real sketchy.
But hey, you know what?
We'll make sure we're investigating some college protesters because that's what the people want.
That's what's important.
That's what's a threat.
Nice little college girl protesting.
She's the big problem.
Let's go back to the phone lines here.
Let's go to Heather in Illinois.
Heather, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, hello.
How are you?
owen shroyer
Hi, good.
Thank you.
unidentified
I'm sorry you had to go through that swatting stuff recently.
And from what I understand, you said that you were trying to compile a list or stories of people who have...
Well, I don't know what you mean by that.
owen shroyer
I'm in touch with all the other people that have been swatted.
And look, bless all their hearts, and I love all of them, and we're all in this together, but there's this huge thread, and it's basically just turned into a chat room.
And so when I try to just share relevant information, it just gets buried in the chat now, and so I just can't even...
Anything in conservative politics, when you try to bring people together to get something done, it's like herding cats.
So, had this chat thread.
It was supposed to be about sharing relevant information.
I'd shared some very important information in there, and it's just like a chat room now.
So, I can't, you know, I don't know.
But I will tell you this.
They can handle their cases however they want.
I am talking to other people involved, and I am talking to other victims, and some of us are doing real strategizing.
If anybody from the FBI or the Department of Justice or even the local police, which they don't have the tools to really handle this anyway, but if they would reach out to me, I could provide them a whole tranche of information that will point them in the right direction to go to.
So that's what's so frustrating.
I've done all this research where I know it's like, okay, here's the relative information you need to know.
Here's the direction you need to go in.
And then the federal government has the tools to do it.
And there's just nothing.
It's just silence.
unidentified
And I was going to ask to add my name to that list of victims because the police here in Illinois are extremely violent.
I even called into your show like a couple of years ago from being a victim, from asking the police to be called myself, from like people stalking me and harassing me.
And I'm the one that ended up getting like assaulted, tackled and even like charges and shit.
And they recently did it to me and my father this past February just from, like, what you guys call bumping.
Me and my dad called Pokemon Go people hunters because they literally are activated, like, agents of chaos to just be out here causing problems.
Like, this chick was literally on top of inside my father's car because he rolled down the window and was, like, on top inside my dad's car attacking him, like, verbally trying to, like...
owen shroyer
I'm not understanding.
What are you saying here?
This sounds like some domestic dispute or what?
unidentified
People who have stories, but I can't put my own story out myself because I don't have like a big following.
I've even tried to contact the local FBI.
owen shroyer
I'm not understanding.
Hold on.
Just take a breath here.
I'm trying to understand what the story is.
I'm not following you.
What are you being targeted for?
unidentified
I don't know how they like find us, but I was going to add potentially like this Pegasus technology that a lot of people are...
I'm talking about...
owen shroyer
Yeah, it's spyware they put in your phone, but I'm asking you, what are you being targeted for?
I don't understand.
Who's targeting you?
unidentified
I think it's just because we're patriots, and we're easy targets, and anytime we ask for police assistance, they don't actually assist us.
owen shroyer
But who's targeting you?
I'm not clear on this.
It sounds like some sort of a local dispute or something.
unidentified
Nope. I don't know these people.
It's different people of different varieties.
And anytime I do ask for police assistance, they're the ones that end up attacking me or my family for it.
owen shroyer
So is this political?
Is this a political thing?
unidentified
I think, yeah, that these agents of chaos, like how they're being activated to go cause problems, like a test blessings, or like they're given maps, or like directions, or missions, even to go on.
owen shroyer
I'm just trying to find something material.
I don't know.
You're Heather in Illinois and you say people are harassing you.
I just have nothing material to go off of.
So if you want to post your story on X and provide some material for me, I can look into it and reach out to you there at Owensroyer1776.
But I'm just not fully understanding the context of what you're talking about here.
So if you can just provide some material and explain in an ex-post, maybe I can follow up with you, Heather.
I'm sorry you're going through that.
Thank you for the call.
Let's go to...
unidentified
Let's see here.
owen shroyer
Let's go to Steve in South Carolina.
Steve, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
steve in south carolina
Hey, Owen.
How you doing?
owen shroyer
I'm good.
Thank you.
steve in south carolina
All right, this domestic terrorism stuff has to stop.
And the biggest problem is people who live in these blue cities and blue states and are under these George Soros 800 DAs, they're never going to do anything unless it's brought to a federal level.
And that's why these people have to be charged with domestic terrorism.
You put it up, I put it up on my ex, Alex has put it up, the definition of domestic terrorism.
owen shroyer
Well, Trump has said it.
Trump has said it.
Musk has said it.
So I don't know what the weight is.
I don't know.
I mean, look, I get it because that's one of the biggest moves you can make.
And, oh man, the quote.
The historic quote is on the tip of my tongue, and I can't figure it out.
But it's basically like, you know, the people that make history make history.
You know, the people that change the world change the world.
And I can't even think of the quote right now.
I'm blanking out.
But, I mean, that's what it is.
It's like, I mean, you're either going to make history or you're not.
You know?
And so Trump is in.
He wants to make history.
Musk wants to make history.
And I just think you got people in there that just...
They just kind of want to just do their job.
Just show up and punch their clock and do their job.
But it's just like, no, no, no.
We're trying to make history here.
So I get it.
Oh, we don't want to label the Democrats domestic terrorists.
That's too heavy.
That's too bold.
Yeah, it's something with bold.
It's a quote with bold.
I can't even think of it.
I'm blacking out here.
But it's like, history favors the bold or something like that.
So it's like, you want to make history?
You got to do something bold.
Everyone knows this is domestic terrorism.
Everybody knows the ideological source.
Everybody knows the financial source.
So you're either going to be bold and do something about it or it's going to continue.
But this idea that, oh, the federal government can't do it or local police can't do it, totally wrong.
Proven wrong.
Proven wrong by January 6th.
Proven wrong by the college protesters they're going after.
Proven wrong by the victims of the most recent swattings that are in red areas without Soros DAs and Soros judges.
If you're in a red area, the cops are actually handling it.
Like, they're all over it.
But you're in a blue area, nothing.
steve in south carolina
Exactly. And I mean, I live in a red state.
I live in a red county.
And the point is, what they want is fear.
This is what they always want.
They want us to live in fear.
owen shroyer
That's right.
steve in south carolina
And fear is a perversion of fate.
owen shroyer
And it worked with Amy Coney Barrett, I would say, after what they did to Kavanaugh, and now she's afraid to vote the right way on the Supreme Court.
So you're absolutely right, Steve.
All right, quickly, last call.
Casey in Ohio.
I got 60 seconds.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Oh, man, I'm a huge fan of the show.
I've been listening for years.
I just want to offer you a word of encouragement, man, about the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Listen, I understand your frustration with Pam Bond.
I'm right there.
I'm right there with you.
I'm on the same page as you.
I'm frustrated, too.
But you're talking to somebody who is previously a sexual assault victim, and I had to speak up first on behalf of eight other people to get my perpetrator put in prison for 13 years.
I just want to say to you, man, like, I turn to the station to listen to you every day for encouragement.
And I just want to tell you, like, on behalf of, you know, thinking about the victims of these crimes that have happened with Jeffrey Epstein, like, don't give up hope.
owen shroyer
Well, I understand that.
I appreciate that.
And I'm sorry for your situation here, and I'm out of time.
But see, that's the thing.
Epstein was not the only perpetrator of these crimes, and that's the problem.
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