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The silent majority is no longer silent. | |
| This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer. | ||
| Please stand by for further details. | ||
| We return you now to your regularly scheduled program. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it's Thursday, January 30th, 2025. This is the InfoWars War Room. | ||
| And let me tell you, we are going to have to be extremely efficient today to cover all of this news. | ||
| In the first hour, I'm going to do my best. | ||
| I'm going to try to give you all of the highlights from the Tulsi Gabbard hearing. | ||
| I'm going to try to give you all of the highlights from the Kash Patel hearing. | ||
| I'm also going to go to President Trump's press conference on the plane crash from last night. | ||
| Give you some of the most important... | ||
| Comments from Trump as well as Pete Hegseth. | ||
| And then I've got a stack of news and information here regarding the plane crash. | ||
| Not to mention multiple video angles of the plane crash that we will be reviewing as well. | ||
| So first hour, that's going to be what we're going to try to cram in. | ||
| And if we have some extra time, there's some other executive orders Trump has issued that we'll get into. | ||
| Some other political action taking part across the nation. | ||
| We'll try to get into all of that. | ||
| But that's what we're going to do in the first hour. | ||
| We're going to be very efficient. | ||
| We're going to get it all in. | ||
| Needless to say, it's pretty much what we expected. | ||
| I thought Patel's hearing would have been a lot more confrontational. | ||
| It wasn't as confrontational as RFK Jr.'s or even Tulsi Gabbard's. | ||
| And yet... | ||
| It did manage to produce plenty of fireworks. | ||
| And you can tell without a doubt, the Democrats in the Senate are scared of Kash Patel. | ||
| I mean, that was really apparent today. | ||
| Now, I also have big guests coming on today as well. | ||
| We're going to be doing another January 6th profile. | ||
| Now, this is interesting. | ||
| You have likely seen this man before. | ||
| This is the man who is standing at the barricade. | ||
| And had Ray Epps lean over and whisper something into his ear right before they went over the barricade. | ||
| Maybe we'll ask him what was whispered in his ear on that fateful day, as well as his story. | ||
| We're also going to be joined by Border Patrol agent Whistleblower, who's now being punished by Border Patrol under the last administration. | ||
| We'll see if he has hopes that they'll bring him back now that Trump is president. | ||
| Zach Apotheker. | ||
| What's crazier about him at this current time, as I was talking to him the other day, he was actually friends with the Border Patrol agent that got killed near the border of Canada two weeks ago. | ||
| He knew him well. | ||
| He was actually set to go hang out at his house for beers and barbecue before he tragically met his end. | ||
| So we'll be talking to him about that too. | ||
| And then I'm going to be joined by Attorney Bob Barnes to cover a lot of Trump's executive orders. | ||
| And then I also want to talk to him about Trump ending the federal income tax and the real ramifications or the real legal precedents, let's say. | ||
| Because Bob, with all of his civil rights work, also does a lot of work as far as tax law is concerned. | ||
| So he's a great... | ||
| Guest to talk about that. | ||
| Now, let me just say this for the sake of time, because we've got to dive right into this when we come back from the break. | ||
| We'll probably do the airplane crash first and then get into the clips. | ||
| As I'm sitting here watching the hearing, so I guess I'll do a 60-second monologue here. | ||
| As I'm sitting here watching these hearings, it is a not-so-subtle reminder watching these senators. | ||
| A not-so-subtle reminder of the absolute trash, the absolute garbage, the villains, the scumbags, the liars, the weasels, the rats that are our congressmen. | ||
| And I just sit there and I ask myself, how do these people get into office? | ||
| These are pathetic excuses for Americans. | ||
| They're horrible. | ||
| They're weak. | ||
| They're frail. | ||
| They're pale. | ||
| They're fragile. | ||
| They're performative. | ||
| They're lying scum. | ||
| All of them, almost. | ||
| Susan Collins, pathetic. | ||
| Maisie Arono belongs on a short bus. | ||
| Richard Blumenthal, stolen valor. | ||
| How do these damn lying scumbags get into office? | ||
| What the hell is going on with this clown show? | ||
| You just can't help but wonder. | ||
| How these pathetic excuses for Americans became our senators. | ||
| And I mean, it's just one low-life, lying, performative scumbag after the next. | ||
| And I'm just sitting there watching them attack superior people. | ||
| Way more legitimate. | ||
| Representatives for our country like Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. And I'm watching these sniveling weasels. | ||
| Senator Warner and Blumenthal and Hirono and Collins. | ||
| They're pathetic. | ||
| Adam Schiff, a pencil-necked, bug-eyed, watermelon-head freak. | ||
| And they sit there attacking real Americans, who I hope every single one of them gets confirmed. | ||
| It looks like Tulsi Gabbard is going to be up against it as far as the numbers are concerned. | ||
| Aside from the normal rats of Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell, there might be a couple other that go against Gabbard. | ||
| But before we get into all the highlights from the Kash Patel hearing and the Tulsi Gabbard hearing, let's go to President Trump addressing the nation on the plane crash last night. | ||
| Happened late last night. | ||
| Trump was already making statements last night. | ||
| Biden would have been asleep and probably still wouldn't have had a press conference in regards to the plane crash that happened in D.C. A real president stepped up, made statements last night, and stepped up to the podium this morning. | ||
| And so, let's go to his opening statement to the press in clip 15. I have more to say about that. | ||
| I do want to point out that various articles that appeared Prior to my entering office. | ||
| And here's one. | ||
| The FAA's diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| And then it says FAA says people with severe disabilities are most underrepresented segment of the workforce and they want them in and they want them. | ||
| They can be air traffic controllers. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| This was in January 14th, so that was a week before I entered office. | ||
| They put a big push to put diversity into the FAA's program. | ||
| Then another article, the Federal Aviation Administration. | ||
| This was before I got to office. | ||
| Recently, second term. | ||
| The FAA is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe... | ||
| Intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| These are people that are, I mean, actually, their lives are shortened because of the stress that they have. | ||
| Brilliant people have to be in those positions. | ||
| And their lives are actually shortened, very substantially shortened because of the stress. | ||
| Where you have many, many planes coming into one target. | ||
| And you need a very special talent and a very special genius to be able to do it. | ||
| Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. | ||
| The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities. | ||
| Partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, and dwarfism all qualify for the position of a controller of airplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot, a little dot on the map, a little runway. | ||
| The initiative is part of the FAA's diversity and inclusion hiring plan. | ||
| Think of that. | ||
| The initiative is part of the FAA's diversity and inclusion hiring plan, which says diversity is integral to achieving FAA's mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's just the opposite. | ||
| The FAA website shows that the agency's guidance on diversity hiring were last updated on... | ||
| March 23rd of 22, they wanted to make it even more so. | ||
| And then I came in, and I assume maybe this is the reason, the FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete Buttigieg, a real winner. | ||
| That guy's a real winner. | ||
| Do you know how badly everything's run since he's run the Department of Transportation? | ||
| He's a disaster. | ||
| He was a disaster as a mayor. | ||
| He ran his... | ||
| Sitting into the ground, and he's a disaster now. | ||
| He's just got a good line of bullshit. | ||
| The Department of Transportation, his government agency charged with regulating civil aviation. | ||
| Well, he runs it, 45,000 people, and he's run it right into the ground with his diversity. | ||
| Now, the truth is, there's way more to that angle than even Trump got into here that I'm going to show you. | ||
| It really started during Obama, but you can look at the guy that was in charge of the FAA, and you can even look at lawsuits against the FAA for these hiring practices. | ||
| So this was a very well-known issue that we'll get to, but first, let's go to more from Trump. | ||
| Now, talking to the media, and it's nice to have a president just, he just speaks like he feels. | ||
| And so, throw the political correctness out the window. | ||
| Throw the liberal hemming and hawing out the window. | ||
| He speaks how he feels, like this in clip 14. It's all under investigation. | ||
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I understand that. | |
| That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity has something to do with this crash. | ||
| Because I have common sense, okay? | ||
| And unfortunately, a lot of people don't. | ||
| We want brilliant people doing this. | ||
| This is a major chess game at the highest level. | ||
| When you have 60 planes coming in during a short period of time and they're all coming in different directions and you're dealing with very high level computer work and very complex computers. | ||
| And one of the other things I will tell you is that the systems that were built, I was going to rebuild the entire system and then we had an election that didn't turn out the way it should have. | ||
| But they didn't build the systems properly. | ||
| They spent a lot of money renovating a system, spending much more money than they would have spent if they bought a new system for air traffic controllers, meaning the computerized systems. | ||
| There are certain companies that do a very good job. | ||
| They didn't use those companies. | ||
| They used companies that should not have been doing it. | ||
| I think it's very important to understand that... | ||
| For some jobs, and not only this, but air traffic controllers, they have to be at the highest level of genius. | ||
| So, the liberal media wants to say, oh, you can't talk about that. | ||
| That's politically incorrect. | ||
| That's racist and all this stuff. | ||
| No, we can't. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| It's a serious issue. | ||
| Whether it was the biggest factor in this crash last night is yet to be determined. | ||
| But that is a real issue. | ||
| And we have all the facts to prove it. | ||
| But it's just, no, don't talk about it. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| Yeah, we do all the diversity hiring, and we claim it's all about diversity. | ||
| But then when a big tragedy happens and our fingerprints are all over it, no, don't talk about that. | ||
| Now, oh, where's your diversity, equity, and inclusion pride now? | ||
| It's a matter of life and death. | ||
| And they put their political agenda above it. | ||
| Now, Trump posted that statement last night, which, again, he's saying what we all saw. | ||
| We've got the videos of the crash. | ||
| And he's saying what we all are thinking. | ||
| What we all just saw. | ||
| Put the statement back up on the screen here. | ||
| The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. | ||
| The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. | ||
| It is a clear night. | ||
| The lights on the plane were blazing. | ||
| Why didn't the helicopter go up or down or turn? | ||
| Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane? | ||
| This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Now here's... | ||
| Well, we'll show you the actual videos, a zoomed-in video. | ||
| In fact, we'll just go to these now on 11 and 12, and you guys can... | ||
| Pick whichever one you want to roll with. | ||
| Eleven is the close-up. | ||
| Twelve is farther away. | ||
| But you can see in this close-up right here, the helicopter is traveling right into the airplane on a straight line. | ||
| How do you not see it? | ||
| And if either one of these aircraft is going to make a maneuver to avoid... | ||
| A collision, it has to be the helicopter. | ||
| Now, it's still unclear about when exactly the warning was given, when exactly the imminent collision was detected. | ||
| It appears that they had probably at least five seconds, maybe close to 30 seconds. | ||
| It could have been avoided, but this video is damning. | ||
| When you see a helicopter going straight into an airplane, from right in front of it, right in its line of sight, It makes no sense, and there were warnings giving out. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| So Trump just saying what we're all saying, what we're all thinking, doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Just, that's what we see. | ||
| What the hell's going on? | ||
| Don't you dare say it could be because of a diversity hire. | ||
| Well, why the hell not? | ||
| Here's Pete Hegseth addressing this quickly, clip 13. But I want to echo what the transportation secretary and you, Mr. President, said, because it pertains to the DOD as well. | ||
| We will have the best and brightest in every position possible. | ||
| As you said in your inaugural, it is colorblind and merit-based. | ||
| The best leaders possible, whether it's flying Blackhawks and flying airplanes, leading platoons, or in government. | ||
| The era of DEI is gone at the Defense Department. | ||
| And we need the best and brightest, whether it's in our air traffic control, or whether it's in our generals, or whether it's throughout government. | ||
| So thank you for your leadership and courage on that, sir. | ||
| And we'll stand by you on it. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Now, I'm not a fan of the DEI policies anywhere, but let's just try to be rational here. | ||
| If you want to do diversity on the set of a TV show or a sports show and you say, hey, we want to bring in an Indian person to attract an Indian audience. | ||
| We want to bring a middle-aged woman to bring in middle-aged woman viewers. | ||
| We want to bring in a black guy to bring in black guys watching. | ||
| It's not life or death. | ||
| When you're talking about doctors, when you're talking about air traffic controllers, pilots, we're talking about life and death. | ||
| Life and death. | ||
| The real world. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| And this is why I always say, this is why Democrats, this is why liberals need their own little tykes politics over here. | ||
| The plastic knives, the plastic oven, it's all fake so nobody gets hurt. | ||
| Because when they're in charge of the real stuff, people die. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Now, do we know what the major cause of this is as of yet? | ||
| No. | ||
| But we will have the diversity, equity, and inclusion debate. | ||
| We will observe and report the facts. | ||
| This is the head of the FAA. Here he is, talking about how it's all about diversity when it comes to air traffic control in clip 26. Hi, I'm Brad Mims, Deputy Administrator at the Federal Aviation Administration. | ||
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We are looking for the best and brightest to join us as air traffic controllers. | |
| We need a diverse group of air traffic controllers to bring distinct perspectives to handle the ever-changing aerospace landscape. | ||
| I'm calling on students and alumni from HBCUs, Hispanic-serving institutions, and tribal colleges to apply now to become air traffic controllers. | ||
| I don't want anyone interested to miss out on this amazing career opportunity. | ||
| Make sure you complete your full application during our application window. | ||
| The short application window ends on May 8th. | ||
| We need a diverse, next-generation air traffic workforce with people from all backgrounds. | ||
| So apply now. | ||
| So the message there is clear. | ||
| Non-whites, please. | ||
| We want you. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| I don't care if the best air traffic controllers are white or black or Mexican or Asian. | ||
| It doesn't matter to me. | ||
| I just want the best, but that's not what he's interested in. | ||
| He's interested in diversity and non-whites. | ||
| Makes it perfectly clear. | ||
| Not my words. | ||
| I'm not the FAA deputy director. | ||
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That's him. | |
| That's Deputy Director Mims. | ||
| He said it, not me. | ||
| Still don't want to talk about diversity as an issue? | ||
| Wall Street Journal, June 5th, 2015. Obama. | ||
| Affirmative action lands in the air traffic control tower. | ||
| We all know what that means. | ||
| Federal Aviation Administration has moved away from merit-based hiring criteria in order to increase the number of women and minorities who staff airport control towers. | ||
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Still don't want to talk about... | |
| Diversity, equity, and inclusion as a potential problem? | ||
| Well, did you know that the FAA was already involved in lawsuits because of this? | ||
| The FAA is being sued for throwing out air traffic controller applications based on applicants' race. | ||
| We all know what that means, don't we? | ||
| And again, this was all brought in by Obama. | ||
| Not Biden. | ||
| This was brought in by Obama. | ||
| A class-action lawsuit by the Mountain States Legal Foundation has found a substantial amount of documents showing discriminatory hiring practices by the Obama-era Federal Aviation Administration Initiative, which rejected qualified air traffic controllers based solely on race. | ||
| FAA lawsuit claims agency discriminated against air traffic controller applicants if they were white. | ||
| They didn't want the best and brightest. | ||
| FAA rejected qualified controllers. | ||
| FAA turned away qualified air traffic controllers based on race. | ||
| And this all came from policy in the Obama administration in 2013. So, are we still not allowed to talk about it? | ||
| Does the liberal media want to sit in the press gallery and pretend like there isn't something real here? | ||
| You did it! | ||
| It was literally your policy. | ||
| You bragged about it. | ||
| Barack Obama wrote the policy. | ||
| You just heard from the FAA deputy director about the policy. | ||
| You just saw the lawsuit about the policy. | ||
| You just saw the headlines about the policy. | ||
| And then you have an air traffic control issue and a deadly crash and you bring it up and they say no! | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You were proud of it. | ||
| It does exist. | ||
| And it might have caused 60 plus people to die. | ||
| And now you don't want to talk about it. | ||
| Now you've never heard of it. | ||
| Here's some of the other headlines. | ||
| Shortly before fatal crash, jet pilot was asked to change runways. | ||
| I still don't think we have the full picture as far as what happened in those final moments. | ||
| And really all we can do is just look at that video and say something went terribly wrong. | ||
| And look at the warning system and the air traffic control system and say somebody was asleep at the switch here. | ||
| Whether it was the helicopter pilot or somebody in air traffic control. | ||
| I mean, there's really nothing the airplane... | ||
| Pilot can do at that point. | ||
| He's already on the route to land. | ||
| I mean, it might even just be like AI landing the plane at that point. | ||
| But it's already on the descent. | ||
| It's like 20 seconds away from touching ground. | ||
| It's already on the line to land. | ||
| Staffing was not normal at Reagan Airport Tower, according to FAA report. | ||
| Apparently had some staffing issues. | ||
| Air traffic controllers warned U.S. helicopter ahead of crash, according to the audio. | ||
| It does appear at this point that whoever was manning the helicopter is the most at fault, from what we can see and know so far. | ||
| Trump blames DEI hiring practices. | ||
| So who was the helicopter pilot? | ||
| Which, by the way, they say was on a training run. | ||
| A training run. | ||
| Now, they're saying so far they found no survivors. | ||
| There was a large contingent of world-class figure skaters on this flight from the skating club of Boston and other well-known world champion figure skaters, including from all over the world, like Russia. | ||
| 67 believe dead after American Airlines plane collides with Army helicopter. | ||
| So it seems impossible that this could have been... | ||
| I mean, how you fly a helicopter right into an airplane right in front of your face in your line of sight is mind-boggling. | ||
| How air traffic control isn't all over that and stopping it from happening is mind-boggling. | ||
| But there's another report talking about the Blackhawk helicopter security systems having known issues. | ||
| Warnings about Blackhawk helicopter safety systems back up decades. | ||
| Talks about how there's been 10 major accidents since 2014. And then, yeah, here's the story at Infowars. | ||
| I had the official letterhead from Lockheed Martin. | ||
| Kellen McBreen wrote the story for Infowars. | ||
| Headline, Lockheed Martin boasted of remote Blackhawk helicopter technology three months before tragic D.C. aerial disaster. | ||
| Well, I have a story here. | ||
| This, I believe, was from even longer ago. | ||
| I think this one was from years ago. | ||
| The date didn't print on my printout here, but nonetheless, well, yeah, okay, this one was from 2024 as well. | ||
| Command an autonomous Blackhawk helicopter from 300 miles away. | ||
| LockheedMartin.com. | ||
| The Matrix Autonomy System. | ||
| So, all kinds of questions. | ||
| The video makes this thing look really bad. | ||
| The diversity, equity, inclusion initiatives to make sure it wasn't about who was the most qualified, but who had the right skin color or sexual orientation to be hired at these jobs of the utmost importance where it's literally life or death. | ||
| Is certainly a problem. | ||
| And so these are the things that we are investigating and looking into. | ||
| But I will say, it was just nice to have a real president up there telling the truth and addressing the public. | ||
| Same with even Pete Hegseth with his information. | ||
| That was refreshing. | ||
| That was good to see. | ||
| Alright, when we come back, highlights from the Kash Patel hearing and the Tulsi Gabbard hearing. | ||
| So you can imagine today he had the... | ||
| Patel hearing going on, the Gabbard hearing going on, plus the press conference with President Trump and Pete Hegseth on the plane crash. | ||
| I want to go to one last clip of Pete Hegseth here explaining some details about what they know of the Black Hawk helicopter and its crew. | ||
| And so briefly, before we get to the Patel highlights, here is Hegseth explaining what he knows. | ||
| All right, update this morning. | ||
| I just got off the phone with the SELCOM commander and the chairman, the Joint Chiefs, talking about our efforts at Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| That is ongoing. | ||
| We're leaning forward on supporting the president's directive to make sure that we have a location for violent criminal illegals as they are deported out of the country. | ||
| No one's going to wait on the Defense Department, and we're working that in real time. | ||
| But I also wanted to give an update on the tragedy that happened last night here in Washington, D.C., and provide a little bit more information as we are actively working to investigate and understand what occurred and why. | ||
| At about 8.48 last night, a UH-60 assigned to the U.S. Army Aviation Brigade in the Military District of Washington, Fort Belvoir, Virginia, collided tragically with a civilian airliner. | ||
| The unit involved, the Army unit involved with Bravo Company 12th Aviation Battalion at Fort Belvoir. | ||
| It was an annual proficiency training flight. | ||
| And when we look at the crew, and not all kin have been notified, so we're going to withhold ranks and names at this point. | ||
| We do know on our side who was involved. | ||
| It was a fairly experienced crew, and it was doing a required annual night evaluation. | ||
| They did have... | ||
| Night vision goggles. | ||
| The 12th Aviation Battalion, as of now, is granted a 48-hour operational pause on contingency missions as what happened is reviewed. | ||
| And a senior-level aviation team, an investigative team from our Aviation Safety Center, was deployed last night and already is in Washington, D.C., to investigate what's going on. | ||
| We anticipate that the investigation will quickly be able to determine whether the aircraft was in the corridor and at the right altitude. | ||
| At the time of the incident, as I mentioned, next of kin notifications are ongoing. | ||
| It's a tragedy, a horrible loss of life for those 64 souls on that civilian airliner and, of course, the three soldiers in that Black Hawk. | ||
| They're in our prayers, their families and their communities, as people are notified, I can't imagine. | ||
| And I know it's gone from a rescue mission to a recovery mission. | ||
| We're with all the first responders that are moving actively, too. | ||
| So at the Defense Department, our thoughts and prayers go out. | ||
| We are actively investigating to find out what happened and why. | ||
| And as we get updates, you will have them. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| It's so refreshing to have somebody that talks to you like a normal human being, to have somebody that's bringing you the information as it's being made available to them, making comments and answering questions. | ||
| As quickly, as rapidly as possible. | ||
| This is real transparency. | ||
| We have real leadership. | ||
| It's hard to even believe that this is what's going on. | ||
| I don't know if that's just because our government is so untrustworthy at this point. | ||
| We're just so used to being lied to. | ||
| We had nothing but scum and trash. | ||
| Barely even communicate with us during the Biden administration. | ||
| That's how things should be handled, and that's how I anticipate they will be handled by this administration. | ||
| Immediate statements, immediate press conferences, and as much transparency as they can provide with the information they have made available to them, also made available to us. | ||
| So, boy, great job, Pete Hegseth. | ||
| Great job, President Trump. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You hear about this and you say, okay, well, we'll find out the details about that flight pattern and what led to the helicopter not being able to identify its airspace properly. | ||
| Or was it an air traffic control issue at the end of the day? | ||
| Was somebody asleep at the switch? | ||
| What was going on in that air traffic control room that people weren't screaming and shouting off alarms? | ||
| All right. | ||
| But we got to move on so much to get to. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| To Kash Patel. | ||
| And we'll just start to fire these off one by one. | ||
| Maisie Hirono, short bus Hirono. | ||
| Again, it's one of those examples of how in the hell does this woman get elected to anything? | ||
| It's an embarrassment to our country. | ||
| It's an embarrassment to the state of Hawaii. | ||
| How are these people senators? | ||
| We should be electing the best and the brightest. | ||
| Instead, you get short bus Hirono. | ||
| And she thinks she's a genius. | ||
| She starts all of her questioning sessions off like this because she is just such a genius. | ||
| Clip nine. | ||
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | |
| Mr. Patel, as part of my responsibility as a member of this committee, I ask the following two initial questions of all nominees before any of my committees. | ||
| Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature? | ||
| No, Senator, I have not. | ||
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Have you ever faced discipline or entered into a settlement relating to this kind of conduct? | |
| No, Senator, I have not. | ||
| Thank you all. | ||
| Short Buster Rono, thank you so much for that. | ||
| As if she didn't know the answer to that question already when they do their briefings and confidential behind closed door questionings. | ||
| It's all about just putting that out there and just saying it, just insinuating it. | ||
| Speaking like a... | ||
| Valley girl in high school. | ||
| Here's another example, clip seven. | ||
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Here, your answer, yes or no. | |
| Did you make money? | ||
| I don't have those financial disclosures in front of me. | ||
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This is my third and last time I'm going to ask you that question. | |
| You have that information. | ||
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So you refuse to answer the question. | |
| I answered 1,300 pages. | ||
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No answer. | |
| And yet you spread dangerous misinformation. | ||
| How is this woman a sitting senator? | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| You know, I don't want to be too rude. | ||
| She might be like a sweet grandma or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But a senator? | ||
| You're a joke. | ||
| You're a clown. | ||
| You're an embarrassment. | ||
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You come off like a damn retard. | |
| It's an embarrassment. | ||
| No, I'm not sorry for my language. | ||
| I'm sorry that that is a sitting senator, an embarrassment to this country, an embarrassment to herself and her family in the state of Hawaii. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| It's an insult. | ||
| Much more offensive than any language I might use. | ||
| Short bus Hirono up there talking like this. | ||
| You want to answer the questions? | ||
| Did you have sexually relations with a woman? | ||
| Did you have to settle? | ||
| Yeah, this is why our country is in so much trouble, because we have leadership like that. | ||
| A clown. | ||
| She should be forced to wear a red nose and a red wig and clown makeup to these hearings so that people can know what she really is. | ||
| And they're all over. | ||
| It's not just her. | ||
| She just might be the worst. | ||
| Here's a longer exchange between another clown, Amy Klobuchar. | ||
| Here's this clown, Clown Klobuchar. | ||
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Did you say that the FBI headquarters should be shut down and reopened as a museum of the deep state? | |
| Mr. Chairman, are we allowed to go in extra time? | ||
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Let's see. | |
| You get a second round. | ||
| Before I call on Senator Leon. | ||
| Could he just answer the question if he said that the FBI headquarters where they investigate cybercrime and terrorism should be shut down and open as a deep state? | ||
| As a museum. | ||
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Did he say that the headquarters should be shut down? | |
| I deserve an answer to that question. | ||
| He is asking to be head of the FBI, and he said that their headquarters should be shut down. | ||
| Mr. Chair, parliamentary inquiry. | ||
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You got anything you want to say, Mr. Patel, before I go on to Senator Lee? | |
| Simply this. | ||
| If the best attacks on me are going to be false accusations and grotesque mischaracterizations, the only thing this body is doing is defeating the credibility of the men and women at the FBI. I stood with them here in this country. | ||
| In every theater of war we have, I was on the ground in service of this nation and any. | ||
| Accusations leveled against me that I would somehow put political bias before the Constitution are grotesquely unfair. | ||
| And I will have you reminded that I have been endorsed by over 300,000 law enforcement officers to become the next director of the FBI. Let's ask them. | ||
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Mr. Chairman, I am quoting his own words from September of 2024. It is his own words. | |
| It is not some conspiracy. | ||
| It is what Mr. Patel actually said himself. | ||
| Facts matter. | ||
| You forget that you had three minutes in the next round to say what you just said. | ||
| Okay, I'll say them again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Before I call Lee. | ||
| Mr. Chair, just parliamentary inquiry, and it was on time. | ||
| It wasn't disputing any of the debate, but I intend to keep to my seven minutes, and I appreciate you keeping everyone to it. | ||
| If we go over, can we have that decrement against the time in the second round? | ||
| If a member goes over. | ||
| That was actually 10 minutes, Mr. Chair. | ||
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I'm not sure that I want to. | |
| Sometimes it's faster to get things done here just letting people shout than it does to shut them up. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
| You're a wise man, Mr. Chair. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
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Before we go to leave. | |
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
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Yes, what do you want? | |
| I love this guy. | ||
| Mr. Chairman, unlike Senator Tillis, I mean, if we're going to start this, I want an extra three minutes. | ||
| Now, my friend Senator Kovacar, we're three minutes over. | ||
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So, here, what you're saying is the chairman wasn't a very good chairman by not shutting her up. | |
| But I've gone through this before. | ||
| And I think I know how to handle it. | ||
| I think you're a star-spangled awesome chairman. | ||
| I just want to say that for the record. | ||
| But if you're going to let somebody over there go three minutes over, I want my extra three minutes. | ||
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Well, let's see if it's abused by anybody else before we make that decision. | |
| I'm just telling you, I'm going to abuse it. | ||
| Okay, now you're having fun. | ||
| Let's go to more here between Klobuchar. | ||
| These senators are such an embarrassment. | ||
| Go to clip six. | ||
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Before I call on Senator Lee, could he just answer the question if he said that the FBI headquarters where they investigate cybercrime and terrorism should be shut down and open as a deep state at the museum? | |
| Did he say that the headquarters should be shut down? | ||
| I deserve an answer to that question. | ||
| He is asking to be head of the FBI, and he said that their headquarters should be shut down. | ||
| Mr. Chair, parliamentary inquiry. | ||
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You got anything you want to say, Mr. Patel, before I go on to Senator Lee? | |
| Simply this. | ||
| If the best attacks on me are going to be false accusations and grotesque mischaracterizations, the only thing this body is doing is defeating the credibility of the men and women at the FBI. I stood with them. | ||
| Let's move on from Klobuchar, clown car. | ||
| Klobuchar. | ||
| Let's go to Kash Patel asked about the 2020 election. | ||
| This one just drives the Democrats nuts in clip five. | ||
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I have a question to see if you can do that. | |
| Mr. Patel, did Donald Trump lose the 2020 presidential election? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| President Biden's election was certified. | ||
| He was sworn in and he served as the president of the United States. | ||
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Once again, the... | |
| People who are 100% loyal to President Trump cannot answer that question. | ||
| It is alarming that you want to be an FBI director who can't answer a simple question, factual question. | ||
| You're alarming. | ||
| Your presence in Congress is alarming. | ||
| Your appearance is alarming. | ||
| Your aura is alarming. | ||
| Your low IQ is alarming. | ||
| Here he gets into it with Dick Durbin, another scumbag senator, clip eight. | ||
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Mr. Patel's loyalty includes touting conspiracy theories that threaten and theories and threatened efforts at President Trump's enemies. | |
| How do we know Mr. Patel's theories, his beliefs, what What motivates him, what he really believes, he wrote it in a book. | ||
| This book, Government Gangsters, I urge all of you to read before you cast a vote for this gentleman. - Nice. - Mr. Patel has published at the back of this book a list of 60 people whom he calls, quote, "members of the deep state." 60. This list includes many distinguished public servants who have dedicated their lives to our nation. | ||
| Among them are Democrats and Republicans, including former Trump administration officials like the former Secretary of Defense Esper. | ||
| Then there is Mr. Patel's plan to quote, and I quote him, Shut down the FBI Hoover building on day one. | ||
| Reopen it the next day as a museum of the deep state. | ||
| And he has said, quote, we're going to come after people in the media. | ||
| We're going to come after you. | ||
| Whether it's criminally or civilly, we're putting you all on notice. | ||
| Does this sound like the kind of nonpartisan law enforcement professional who should lead the FBI? Yes. | ||
| Not to me. | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| Imagine being so out of touch with the average American, saying that, reading that, and not realizing that's exactly what we want. | ||
| That's exactly what Americans want to hear. | ||
| That's exactly how Americans think and feel. | ||
| We just showed you with a third straight election. | ||
| So, imagine being that out of touch thinking that that somehow harms Patel's reputation. | ||
| Makes us like him more. | ||
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Dick. | |
| Here, Senator Kennedy gives him an opportunity to address the conspiracy theory attacks waged against him in Clip 10. If you're not taking off some people, you're not doing your job right. | ||
| My colleague and friend, Senator Durbin, called you a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| You remember that? | ||
| I do, Senator. | ||
| You were instrumental in revealing that the Trump-Russia election collusion hoax was a hoax, weren't you? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| was the lead investigator. | ||
| Sounds to me like we need to get some new conspiracy theories because all the old ones turned out to be true. - Facts matter, Senator. | ||
| Conspiracy theorists are up something like 37 to nothing. | ||
| Senator Kennedy for the win. | ||
| Do you want to know why the Democrats are so scared of Kash Patel? | ||
| I'll give you one 60-second clip. | ||
| And you'll understand why the Democrats, and some Republicans probably as well, you want to know why they're so scared of Kash Patel? | ||
| It's not just the things that he says about the deep state or the bureaucratic class. | ||
| No. | ||
| He knows exactly what they're up to in Congress as well. | ||
| Clip two. | ||
| Just look at Nancy Pelosi's insider trading deals. | ||
| It is insider trading. | ||
| And she keeps making up. | ||
| hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| So do dozens of other congressmen and women. | ||
| So they know what's going to happen. | ||
| They're writing the legislation. | ||
| They're doing the funding. | ||
| It's the same thing for the media circuit. | ||
| These people, not all of them, but for the most part, live and breathe to get on these TV shows. | ||
| I could care less if I'd ever do media again. | ||
| In fact, I'd probably be a much happier guy. | ||
| These guys are begging to get on your show for three minutes here and four minutes there. | ||
| They're begging for relevance and they're looking for any way they can get it. | ||
| Do you think I shouldn't have any government officials on? | ||
| I think they should just have people who care about questioning them neutrally. | ||
| Again, not a Republican or Democrat thing. | ||
| Like if someone goes out there and specifically lies about Russiagate, about impeachment, about insurrection, about the 51-inch letter, call them out on it. | ||
| But they keep having them on over and over and over and over again. | ||
| He knows about the insider trading. | ||
| He knows about the fake intel leaks and then how it gets promoted by the mainstream media. | ||
| He knows how their whole propaganda campaign works, folks. | ||
| That's why they're scared of him. | ||
| Now, whether he can or will dismantle it or not is in their story. | ||
| But exposing it for the American people and understanding that, grasping that as the FBI director is already a huge advancement of the issues we've had with FBI leadership. | ||
| Now, I got a couple other clips from the Patel hearing. | ||
| I want to jump to some of these Gabbard clips. | ||
| Her entire opening statement, about 10 minutes, was in... | ||
| Incredibly powerful. | ||
| But for the sake of time, let's just go to some of these clips, some of these highlights first. | ||
| Here she is with Senator Michael Bennett from Colorado, who turns out to be a real freak show himself. | ||
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Listen to him here in clip 20. Do you believe, as the chairman of this committee believes, as the vast majority of members of our intelligence agencies believe, that Edward Snowden was a traitor to the United States of America? | |
| Senator, if confirmed as Director of National Intelligence, I will work with you to make sure that there is not another Snowden-like leak. | ||
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It's not a moment to propagate theories, conspiracy theories, or attacks on journalism in the United States. | |
| This is when you need to answer the questions of the people whose votes you're asking for to be confirmed as the... | ||
| Chief intelligence officer of this nation. | ||
| As my colleague said, this is not about you. | ||
| It's about the people that serve the intelligence agencies of the United States. | ||
| Is Edward Snowden a traitor to the United States of America? | ||
| That is not a hard question to answer when the stakes are this high. | ||
| Senator, as someone who has served in uniform... | ||
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Your answer, yes or no, is Edward Snowden a traitor to the United States of America? | |
| As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is. | ||
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Apparently you don't. | |
| Apparently you don't. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| You're going to let her answer the question? | ||
| You lipless freak. | ||
| Here she brings up treasonous acts of the deep state. | ||
| Oh yeah, this one ticked him off. | ||
| Clip 21. Here are just a few other examples. | ||
| The American people elected Donald Trump as their president not once but twice. | ||
| And yet the FBI and intelligence agencies were politicized by his opponents to undermine his presidency and falsely portray him as a puppet of Putin. | ||
| Title I of FISA was used illegally to obtain a warrant to spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page using a Clinton campaign-funded false dossier as their so-called evidence. | ||
| Biden campaign advisor Tony Blinken was the impetus for the 51 former senior intelligence officials' letter dismissing Hunter Biden's laptop as disinformation specifically to help Biden win the election. | ||
| Former DNI James Clapper lied to this committee in 2013, denying the existence of programs that facilitated the mass collection of millions of Americans' phone and Internet records, yet was never held accountable. | ||
| Under John Brennan's leadership, the CIA abused its power to spy on Congress, to dodge oversight, lied about doing it until he was caught, and yet has never been held responsible. | ||
| Under Biden, the FBI abused its power for political reasons to try to surveil Catholics who attend traditional Latin Mass, labeling them as quote-unquote radical traditionalist Catholics. | ||
| Personally, just 24 hours after I criticized Kamala Harris and her nomination, I was placed on a secret domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies. | ||
| Sadly, there are more examples. | ||
| The bottom line is this. | ||
| This must end. | ||
| Now, I got a lot more from Gabbard and Patel. | ||
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Let me get one more quick clip before we hit the end of the first hour here, getting into it with Mark Kelly in clip 24. The tendency to repeat Russian and Syrian, and even in some cases, I think we'll get into in a closed session, Iranian information, and to discount what comes from our intelligence community. | |
| Senator, every American deserves to know that people in our own government were providing support to our sworn enemy, Al Qaeda. | ||
| That should not be acceptable by anyone. | ||
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Thank you, Senator Kelly, Ms. Gabbard. | |
| In conclusion, Ms. Senator. | ||
| You know, I really hope she gets confirmed. | ||
| She might have the toughest road ahead because there's a couple of other Republicans outside of the rats that are not committing to voting yes for her. | ||
| But see, she gets the general issue here, which is just because the U.S. intel agencies say something is true doesn't mean it is. | ||
| And they can sit here and try to propagandize the Congress and propagandize the media and the American people. | ||
| She doesn't stand for that. | ||
| She doesn't think that those are good practices for the director of national intelligence. | ||
| And that angers corrupt politicians like Mark Kelly and the like. | ||
| They want to be able to use the intelligence agencies against us. | ||
| Not for us. | ||
| Against us. | ||
| And she gets that. | ||
| I pray to God she gets confirmed. | ||
| She's always been consistently anti-war and pro-transparency. | ||
| And because of that, they say she is spreading false propaganda, spreading foreign propaganda, when that's exactly what's been done to us by our intelligence agencies for years. | ||
| So, I mean, we're talking total 180 change at leadership if we can get Gabbard in, if we can get Patel in. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I got a couple more clips. | ||
| I got guests coming up. | ||
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| Oh, nothing. | ||
| Just RFK Jr. slipping in a nicotine pouch. | ||
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Oh, what was that? | |
| The debates are on. | ||
| What type of nicotine pouch? | ||
| Rumors have it it was Tucker Carlson's brand. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not into the nicotine pouches. | ||
| The crew is. | ||
| I don't know if they have any opinions on the matter. | ||
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We caught you. | |
| He thought the cameras were off him for a second. | ||
| He thought he was sly. | ||
| What do you guys think that was? | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| The 8 milligrams? | ||
| Is that the heavy hitter, guys? | ||
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Caught in 4K. Oh, man. | |
| All right. | ||
| Man, his exchange with Bernie Sanders was just incredible. | ||
| You love to see it. | ||
| Clip 18. And by the way, Bernie, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies. | ||
| It's in Congress, too. | ||
| Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests. | ||
| I thought that that would come. | ||
| I ran for president like you. | ||
| I got millions and millions of contributions. | ||
| They did not come from the executives, not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
| They came from workers. | ||
| In 2020, you were the single largest... | ||
| Because I had four contributions from workers all over this country. | ||
| Workers, not a nickel from corporate tax. | ||
| You were the single largest except for pharmaceutical dollars. | ||
| No, from workers in the industry. | ||
| 1.5 million. | ||
| Yeah, out of 200 million. | ||
| All right. | ||
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Oh, now you admit it. | |
| That's fine. | ||
| You have not answered. | ||
| Last question. | ||
| You have not answered my question? | ||
| Well, RFK Jr. got caught. | ||
| Slipping in a nicotine pouch. | ||
| Bernie Sanders got caught lying about his big pharma contributions. | ||
| What a coward Bernie Sanders is, by the way. | ||
| I got millions of votes. | ||
| Yeah, you got more votes than Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And then you got down on your knees like a dog and let him steal it from you twice. | ||
| Like a little bitch. | ||
| They took it from you twice. | ||
| And you took big pharma money. | ||
| You're a coward. | ||
| You're a fraud. | ||
| All right, Dick Durbin brought up the Epstein list during the Kash Patel hearing, clip 17. I want to talk to you about the Epstein case. | ||
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I have worked on this for years, trying to get those records of who flew on Epstein's plane and who helped him build this international human trafficking, sex trafficking ring. | |
| Now, earlier, I urged then-chairman Durbin... | ||
| To subpoena those records. | ||
| And I ended up being blocked by Senator Durbin and Christopher Wray. | ||
| They stonewalled on this. | ||
| And I know that breaking up these trafficking rings is important to President Trump. | ||
| So will you work with me on this issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings? | ||
| Absolutely, Senator. | ||
| Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America, and I will do everything, if confirmed as FBI director, to make sure the American public knows the full weight of what happened in the past and how we are going to counterman missing children and exploited children going fjord. | ||
|
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Thank you for that. | |
| The Epstein list coming out. | ||
| All right, one more embarrassing Hirono moment with Patel before we move on. | ||
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Clip 16. Hear your answer, yes or no. | |
| Did you make money? | ||
| I don't have those financial disclosures in front of me. | ||
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This is my third and last time I'm going to ask you that question. | |
| You have that information. | ||
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So you refuse to answer the question. | |
| I answered 1,300 pages. | ||
| These are cartoon characters, man. | ||
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No answer. | |
| And yet you spread dangerous misinformation. | ||
| Just total cartoon characters. | ||
| All right, we're about to be joined by Ryan Samso. | ||
| We're going to continue our J6 defendant profiles. | ||
| This interview is going to be a little different. | ||
| We're going to have a little more leaning questions as Ryan was really at the center of one of the most viewed videos from January 6th when Ray Epps whispered something into his ear before the barriers went down. | ||
| We're going to ask Ryan what? | ||
| It's going to be fun. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
| Joining me now is January 6th defendant Ryan Samzell and Ryan, I do want to give you the same opportunity I've given the other January 6th political prisoners to just tell their story. | ||
| And I guess I would like to start with your experience going through the justice system. | ||
| I would like to save some time, however, to talk about, I think more importantly, what happened that day from your perspective. | ||
| I'm not sure anybody's ever heard your story. | ||
| I'm not sure you've ever had the chance to correct any record as far as what you were involved in or not involved in that day. | ||
| So we will ask those questions of you, specifically in the one video that might be one of the most viewed and controversial videos from that day, when the barriers go down and Ray Epps famously whispers something into your ear. | ||
| There were even accusations made about you. | ||
| So you can address all of that stuff. | ||
| But why don't before we do that, why don't you just give us your experience dealing with the justice system and what your political punishment was like for your activities that day? | ||
| Well, obviously I went through 13 months in the beginning without even being indicted. | ||
| I was held 13 months on a criminal complaint solely because they want it so bad for me to be a turncoat. | ||
| Essentially... | ||
| When I denied to do that, I was brutally assaulted two different times and withheld medical treatment. | ||
| This was in the jail, right? | ||
| At this point, you're in jail in D.C.? I was in D.C. and Northern Neck when the assaults happened. | ||
| The worst assaults were actually in Northern Neck. | ||
| A lot of people got it confused and thought it was at D.C., but it was in the Northern Neck jail. | ||
| Both times, my hands were behind my back in handcuffs when assaults took place, and I'm looking to get a legal team to hopefully get that camera footage out so I can give it to the people. | ||
| The justice system, there's no justice in the system. | ||
| They, for the guy, I refused to plead guilty, me personally, because I wanted the truth to come out, and I thought the American people had the right to know. | ||
| The odd part is that when my trial came, they kept my trial date off the calendar so people wouldn't come in and watch. | ||
| Then when I looked at the calendar date, they had it off by a month, and so people thought that my trial was already over. | ||
| Because my trial took seven days, so when I was leaking it out to people, like, hey, I got a trial, come up. | ||
| They're like, oh, no, it was last month. | ||
| I'm like, no, I'm going to trial right now. | ||
| So they want it so badly for people not to come to see what was going on. | ||
| That being said, I don't remember if you remember me or not, but you're actually in my discovery quite often. | ||
| You. | ||
| We were next to each other a lot, and you actually stopped and spoke to me that day. | ||
| You were carrying a camera, and you were just there filming. | ||
| I remember, and you clearly asked me, you said, why are you here? | ||
| That was on January 6th? | ||
| Yeah, you were right next to me a couple times. | ||
| You had a shirt that said, Baby's Lives Matter. | ||
| I remember you. | ||
| I don't think that would have been January 6th if I was wearing that shirt. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'd have to be refreshed on that, because I just don't know. | ||
| I'm not denying that that's true. | ||
| I don't remember wearing that shirt. | ||
| But nonetheless, I was obviously filming that day. | ||
| I talked to a lot of people, so I wouldn't be surprised if we did have an interaction. | ||
| Now, before I actually get into the events of that day, is there anything else you want to talk about as far as your experience through the justice system? | ||
| Did you spend time in the BOP? Yeah, so I was in the BOP. I was pretrial. | ||
| I was in MDC Brooklyn. | ||
| The pictures, if you Google my name, you'll see pictures of me in what looks to be a broom closet. | ||
| The FBI had said that those pictures were fake. | ||
| Those pictures are not fake. | ||
| First of all, how would I take, they said they were selfie style. | ||
| They were not. | ||
| If you look at the pictures, you'll see me laying in a broom closet in my boxers. | ||
| The reason why they put me in that room is they held us in solitary confinement. | ||
| While in solitary confinement, The only way that you have to eat sometimes, the guards will put you on tray punishment, so they won't feed you. | ||
| So Zach Real, a proud boy, we came up with a system where I'd flush my sheet down the toilet, and he would flush his sheet, and they would tangle up, and he was feeding me food through the toilet. | ||
| I would line up through the toilet. | ||
| When the guard had come by, he'd see me in the process of doing that, so they put me in a cell with no toilet. | ||
| A guard had walked by, and he took the pictures of it. | ||
| Yeah, that right there. | ||
| That bucket, I would have to use that as a bathroom, and they would search through the bucket to see if I swallowed anything. | ||
| And I spent, I would say, about five to six months in that type of environment. | ||
| This right here that we see on screen, you spent half a year in that. | ||
| Yeah, no phone calls, no visits. | ||
| The whole time there, I didn't get one visit. | ||
| They put me on visit restriction, and, you know, it made it all the way to the Congress members, and, you know, they looked into it, and they certified that this was a real picture taken by a guard, and it made it into a motion that my lawyer filed to ask the judge. | ||
| They give me a bond because these were the smaller conditions I was living in. | ||
| During this time, I was in need for a vascular surgery from the assault. | ||
| I ended up having a deep vein thrombosis leading to the heart. | ||
| To that day, I still haven't gotten it treated, but I'm scheduled to do so within the next eight weeks now. | ||
| Well, I know, too, that that... | ||
| D.C. jail is one of the worst probably in the country. | ||
| It's very well known for its horrible conditions, and people might be surprised to hear it, but it's true. | ||
| Even when I was just being held for 36 hours, I don't know if they even gave me any food. | ||
| I think maybe after a day they brought in an old sandwich that was like a piece of turkey and cheese. | ||
| But the conditions there are absolutely unreal. | ||
| They don't even give you, in fact, I mean, your situation was obviously pretty extreme, but... | ||
| Funny enough, the pad that you got to lay on the floor is actually more than they give you in the cell. | ||
| In the cell, it's just a sheet of metal. | ||
| You don't even have a pad in the cell. | ||
| You had that gymnastics pad. | ||
| Did the guard take that image to help you? | ||
| A guard walked by and he took the image because during the motion, I actually interrupted my court because I was still in court by phone call. | ||
| And so I told my judge, the judge in my case thought I was lying. | ||
| Jaya Cobb is her name. | ||
| And so she asked for a lieutenant to go up there and take a picture of my cell. | ||
| The next day, he come by and he took a picture of me there laying down. | ||
| And when my lawyer filed in a response to the government, the government immediately said, no, they're selfie-style pictures. | ||
| I don't know where I would get a phone or a camera. | ||
| And that's obviously standing six feet back from him. | ||
| Did the prosecutors argue that or the judge said that? | ||
| The prosecutors argued that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Clearly not a selfie. | ||
| I mean, you can see both of your hands. | ||
| So, I mean, that's just completely absurd. | ||
| Okay, so you're in this condition for half a year and your biggest crime that day was what? | ||
| Going into the building, crossing the barricade? | ||
| I mean, they treat you like a terrorist. | ||
| What was your worst crime? | ||
| What was your biggest? | ||
| We tried to stop people from going in. | ||
| You were there before us. | ||
| You were there with that first rush. | ||
| You talk about being there with the barrier. | ||
| I mean, the famous moment, and then you can kind of get into the other moments surrounding that video, and my crew has the video. | ||
| We can kind of roll it as you're talking. | ||
| But the famous moment is obviously when you guys, I guess there's two layers of barriers. | ||
| You approach that second layer right in front of the inauguration. | ||
| The bike rack, and I said, hey, man. | ||
| President Trump is supposed to be meeting us here, and we want to go to that stage, and we want to hear what he has to say. | ||
| We have a right to be here, man. | ||
| And as I said that, the cop pushed the fence, and I grabbed it and pulled it towards me, and the cop lifted his hand up, and he says, I'll knock you the F out. | ||
| So I took my hat, I put it on backwards, and I put my hands on a fence, and I said, take your best shot. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| That's when I said, take your best shot, Tom. | ||
| Ray Epps came up and he spoke to me and he said, hey man, I got more people. | ||
| Wait until more people come and we got to push through that fence. | ||
| See, what I really want to do is, you can see his mouth. | ||
| We can get a professional. | ||
| I argued and the prosecutors denied it. | ||
| I argued and I said, look, I want a professional lip reader to come in and I want him to read Ray Epps' lips because... | ||
| Why can't he? | ||
| And if it was me, they would have. | ||
| And when I was arrested by the FBI, Mr. Schroeder, the FBI came to my house after they came in there like I was on the Taliban's most wanted list. | ||
| When they allowed me to get dressed, they said, hey, listen, when we interview you, there's going to be a guy that we're going to signal. | ||
| I want you to call him the voice of reason. | ||
| And I said, you know, in the very beginning, I didn't. | ||
| I didn't know how corrupt the FBI was. | ||
| I really didn't. | ||
| And I said, all right. | ||
| So when I put my shoes on, they took me to a police station and they asked me, I said, hey, what about this guy right here? | ||
| And I said, he didn't say much. | ||
| I don't really remember. | ||
| And I said, is it fine if I have a lawyer with me? | ||
| And he said, well, first, he says, wait. | ||
| So he's like a voice of reason, right? | ||
| And I kind of sat back and I said, well, he said, look, we don't have to answer our question now. | ||
| We'll get to that. | ||
| Well, when I was in the D.C. jail, they wanted to have an interview with me. | ||
| When I denied the interview, coincidentally, the next day I was savagely beaten where I suffered a broken eye socket, broken nose, dislocated jaw, and acute kidney damage and blood clots. | ||
| I want you to repeat this, and you are, you sound confident. | ||
| Are you 100% sure you remember what he said to you? | ||
| You specifically remember what he said in your ear? | ||
| I do remember. | ||
| And not only do I remember, do you see the kid to my left right there? | ||
| His name is James Grant. | ||
| And I met him a year later, and I asked him what he heard right up. | ||
| Because it looks like he's whispering. | ||
| He's not actually whispering. | ||
| He's speaking pretty boldly. | ||
| It was just real loud because of the bullhorns and everything going on and people shouting. | ||
| And my co-defendant there, he says, yeah, he said something about we got to push on his count, wait till more people come. | ||
| So it wasn't word for word exactly what I remember, but it was along 90% the same. | ||
| So, you know, two people confirmed the same thing without knowing each other. | ||
| You know, yeah, that's exactly what he said. | ||
| So, you know, I would be willing to take a polygraph test. | ||
| And I would ask that he take one. | ||
| I would take three independent studies by three different experts, if willing to. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I have nothing to hide. | ||
| Well, I would say, let's say you're 90% recalling it accurately, and the gist of what you're saying is accurate, of what he said to you. | ||
| It would line up with, which is crazy enough, some other people that had him on tape, even the night before. | ||
| Saying something similar about going into the building. | ||
| So it wouldn't be really the first time he said something along those lines. | ||
| But that was the moment before kind of the final breach that I think really led to things popping off. | ||
| The police throwing the flashbangs, the smoke grenades, the rubber bullets, which then just incited the crowd. | ||
| I mean, everything kind of got out of hand after that moment. | ||
| And you just happened to be right there at the front lines, and that moment specifically was one of the most viewed videos because of the Ray Epps controversy, and then him being right there at the barricades with yourself. | ||
| Any other moments you want to discuss? | ||
| Yeah, so immediately after we all pushed, there was a guy to my right, and he was more in front of the female officer. | ||
| When she... | ||
| When the barriers knocked her over, she tripped behind a step behind her and she had fell back. | ||
| I had immediately noticed that and I ran to her safety and I pulled her up to make sure that the crowd, as you see, that's not me pushing in front of her. | ||
| I was charged for that and it wasn't even me. | ||
| You're talking about this female officer. | ||
| Yeah, she falls. | ||
| Yeah, she goes down right there and then you kind of look like you freaked out a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, I run around and I pick her up. | ||
| As they're all there. | ||
| Yeah, there you are picking her up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Ray Epps is behind, right here behind me. | ||
| He comes running through. | ||
| He didn't bother to assist. | ||
| He was down there yelling at people. | ||
| We got to go into the building. | ||
| We got to push forward. | ||
| Patriots push forward. | ||
| And then he yelled. | ||
| I remember this. | ||
| And I got blamed for this in trial. | ||
| He said, all Marines to the front. | ||
| Now, the cop came to my trial and lied and said that I said that. | ||
| I did not say that. | ||
| And that was him. | ||
| So when we, and right here, I yelled at this cop, I saved your officer, because he said, you knocked her down. | ||
| I said, no, I saved your officer. | ||
| Ray Epps comes running up past the fallen officer. | ||
| We get up further to the building. | ||
| He later approaches me. | ||
| You know, everybody's just walking around over there waving our flag. | ||
| It wasn't violent at this second area right here. | ||
| People are just standing there. | ||
| And Ray Epps comes up to me and he says, hey, man, what's your handle? | ||
| And I didn't really understand that lingo at the time. | ||
| I said, my handle? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He says, you're a good patriot, man. | ||
| What's your number? | ||
| And I said, I don't know. | ||
| And I never gave him my phone number. | ||
| And I thought that was odd, man. | ||
| And, you know, so later on there today, I'm still standing there and there's a kid standing right next to me. | ||
| Joshua Black is his name. | ||
| And they start shooting off rubber bullets into the crowd. | ||
| Joshua Black gets shot in the face with a rubber bullet. | ||
| When I stop to assist him, a heavyset black girl comes over, and I'm helping patch up this kid who has a rubber bullet stuck in his face. | ||
| Ray Epps, again... | ||
| And I actually have to picture this, you know, I'll post it up on my X page at some point, when I can go through everything, and Ray Epps is standing behind, and he's screaming at the cops, you just shot an unarmed fucking man, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| That's when I stood up, the cop came over and tried to choke Joshua Black while he was on the ground, and I got between the cop, I didn't want to hit the cop, so I used my body to bump him back. | ||
| Yeah, this guy right here. | ||
| That's my work that I put around his face. | ||
| That was my patchwork. | ||
| So the cop tried to choke him. | ||
| I tell the cop to back off of him, and the one cop comes over to me, and he says, hey, man, I seen what you did. | ||
| It's a good job. | ||
| I shook his hand. | ||
| After that, I went over to the scaffolding. | ||
| That's when I seen you. | ||
| You were out there with your video camera, and you said, hey, man, what are you here for? | ||
| I want to clarify this now. | ||
| That was actually Taylor Hansen. | ||
| That was not me. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But don't worry. | ||
| You're not the first. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're not the first to make the mistake. | ||
| Me and Taylor look strikingly similar. | ||
| So, but that's, when you started, I didn't want to correct you until you brought it back up. | ||
| But Baby Lives Matter, that's who that was. | ||
| That was Taylor Hanson. | ||
| But yeah, go on. | ||
| So, when he asked me, I remember, this is why I remember so clearly. | ||
| And the guy said, what are you here for? | ||
| You want to speak while you're here? | ||
| And I said, I'm here for what your shirt says, man. | ||
| And I explained to him how, you know, my upbringing. | ||
| And I said, I support lives. | ||
| And I said, we have a right to be here. | ||
| And it's also part of our duty to be here. | ||
| And I was talking to him, and I seen a gentleman cutting a tarp. | ||
| And when he cut the tarp, it was just hanging there. | ||
| And I had pulled the tarp, and the tarp tore. | ||
| And when I pulled the tarp back, there was like... | ||
| I would say, dude, 50 to 60 cops waiting behind that tarp and they just started opening fire up on us. | ||
| What rounds? | ||
| They just opened it up. | ||
| So I'm almost out of time with you. | ||
| Let me ask you this question because, you know, I'm trying to get everybody's different experience because there were so many different parts of that day. | ||
| There were so many different moments and parts that kind of led to the overall story and really ultimately the false narrative. | ||
| At any point for you, Because you were right there at the front. | ||
| At any point for you, was it like, okay, this is about to get really out of hand, or wait a second, are we being set up here? | ||
| Or for you, was it just kind of adrenaline, massive crowd, they stole the election? | ||
| What are you thinking in this period of time? | ||
| It was a mixture of both. | ||
| So I noticed, it's funny you say that, Owen, and I'm glad you brought that up because... | ||
| When we walked down Pennsylvania Ave or Constitution Ave, I'm not exactly sure, the street. | ||
| When we walked down there, we were brought into what was a Colossack. | ||
| And if you've seen how all the cops are lined up, pretty much when we were going, we were lined into a Colossack. | ||
| That bike rack was the only thing stopping us. | ||
| There was, I would say... | ||
| 300,000 people behind me at this point, or at least it felt like that. | ||
| There was no turning around and walking back. | ||
| So I felt like that was the only thing. | ||
| And I was pissed that our election was stolen. | ||
| So it was actually both. | ||
| I think that the government played on people's emotions because anybody who's patriotic and loves this country and what this country stands for... | ||
| That's where they opened up fire. | ||
| Who's going to stand by and not be a voice? | ||
| Our president told us to go there. | ||
| He was meeting us there, and we were met with aggression. | ||
| I was met with aggression. | ||
| That cop didn't say, hey, man, just stand back. | ||
| He pushed a bike rack into me, picked his fist up, threatened me. | ||
| And as a conservative male, I'm not one to just put my head down and walk away and say sorry. | ||
| Well, I mean, We also have to consider the longer-term environment. | ||
| We just witnessed the left rioting, burning cities to the ground for months, literally months. | ||
| They were bailed out. | ||
| They were supported by their politicians, representatives. | ||
| We saw them taking over entire Capitol buildings, I mean, blocks. | ||
| They took over blocks in Seattle. | ||
| They were burning police buildings. | ||
| I mean, so we can go on and talk about the riots. | ||
| So it was kind of this... | ||
| And I'm not saying it was at the front of your mind, but, you know, there is the monkey see, monkey do phenomenon where it was like, you know, they just rioted for months and, you know, maybe you just figure, okay, this is acceptable in America now. | ||
| And I'm not saying you rioted, obviously, but overall the largesse of the crowd was kind of already in, you know, used to seeing those images, used to seeing the riots, used to seeing it being accepted. | ||
| And, you know, maybe that had a factor to play, especially once the cops, I think, really had a major part in instigating the crowd there as well. | ||
| And they were obviously set up and unprepared as well. | ||
| I've talked to my DC sources here. | ||
| They feel that they got set up. | ||
| But, Ryan, I appreciate your story today. | ||
| And, you know, I think it's a very important story to tell because you were right there at the front. | ||
| Ray Epps has been a major controversial figure, talked about during this thing. | ||
| You were right there with him in one of the most viral videos. | ||
| So I appreciate you coming on here and telling us what you recall. | ||
| And if there's anything else in the future that develops with your legal fights, you keep us posted. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| I appreciate you so much, Owen. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's Ryan Samzell. | ||
| An incredible story. | ||
| I mean, from the treatment in the prisons to what he witnessed that day. | ||
| Yet another incredible January 6th story from a January 6th defendant. | ||
| We're going to continue these pieces. | ||
| We're going to go to Border Patrol whistleblower Zachary Apotheker coming up next. | ||
| He's got some big stuff. | ||
| Joining me now is Border Patrol whistleblower Zach Apotheker. | ||
| This is the first time we've had him on since Trump has been inaugurated. | ||
| I'm curious to know what his current status is. | ||
| Being punished politically for some of the things he did blowing the whistle on what was going on at the border under the Biden administration. | ||
| So I'd like to get an update on that. | ||
| Before we get into that, though, Zach, I want to give you an opportunity to speak about a friend of yours who was just killed near the Canadian border. | ||
| Border Patrol agent and friend of yours. | ||
| It's my understanding you were actually about to spend some time with him. | ||
| Perhaps a little backyard barbecue and cold beverage. | ||
| Do you want to talk about your friend in the Border Patrol recently who was shot and killed up by the Canadian border? | ||
| You know, Owen, I can't speak as a Border Patrol agent. | ||
| I can only speak as a man and tell my story and tell you how good of a person he was. | ||
| I don't want this to ever be misconstrued that I'm using him. | ||
| Or anything like that. | ||
| But I will say he was one of a kind. | ||
| He's an American hero. | ||
| Just the salt of the earth. | ||
| And just the best of the best, man. | ||
| I mean, what more can you say about a guy that gives his life to the country but on the other hand was just such a spectacular human being? | ||
| You know, this interview, even me being on this show with you and you bringing that up is going to bring some heat. | ||
| So I can't... | ||
| I'm not going to get into the specifics of the situation. | ||
| I can only tell you from my aspects of it, my side, my story. | ||
| But I sit here today. | ||
| I want to thank you for having me on the show. | ||
| I have to tell the truth. | ||
| You know, I have an allegiance to Jesus Christ, first and foremost, and to my country. | ||
| So I wanted to kind of come on here and answer any questions that I can, and we can get into it, brother. | ||
| I've seen some interesting reports, and I'm really not ready to commit to any of them, quite frankly, because I know the investigation is ongoing. | ||
| But we're talking about a friend of yours, U.S. Border Patrol agent David Malland, also an Air Force veteran. | ||
| And so I've seen conflicting reports on what led to the shooting that led to his death. | ||
| I'm not sure which direction the scent is taking me as far as what the real story is. | ||
| And I'm not even asking you necessarily to weigh into any of that either. | ||
| I just wanted to give you the opportunity to talk about what a great person he is and really, you know, humanize the sacrifices that a lot of these Border Patrol agents make because, you know, this is not a household name. | ||
| This Air Force veteran Border Patrol agent lost his life defending this country. | ||
| And, you know, he doesn't get he doesn't get the big ceremonies. | ||
| He doesn't get all the attention. | ||
| And so it's it's kind of one of these things that we just deal with in the media. | ||
| but it's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| He's, he's not a household name. | ||
| David Maland did not get big mainstream attention, and it's really unfortunate. | ||
| Yeah, what I can tell you about him is he's an absolute hero, and I wouldn't sit here and lie to you and tell you that he wasn't the best person I've probably ever met unless he really was. | ||
| I mean, he was just the type of guy you walk away from. | ||
| And when you put this uniform on, you're willing to die for this country in the line of duty. | ||
| You know, and make the ultimate sacrifice. | ||
| You are a hero. | ||
| And he took that in. | ||
| You know, there's nothing that I can add. | ||
| There's nothing I'm going to say that's ever going to make it okay or lessen the pain. | ||
| But just that he's in God. | ||
| You know, I know he's with our Lord and Savior, man. | ||
| And I think about him all the time, as many other people do. | ||
| And, you know, from my aspect of it, this is what I really wanted to add, Owen, is I worked... | ||
| You know, there's about 20,000 agents in the Border Patrol. | ||
| And I was on your show prior to getting my gun and badge taken away, right? | ||
| You had me on. | ||
| And I spoke out. | ||
| I said, there's a problem in this country. | ||
| There's been a problem going on. | ||
| We're letting too many people in. | ||
| There's criminal aliens. | ||
| The government's assisting these NGOs, giving them millions, hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars. | ||
| And they're bringing people into the country. | ||
| There's a lot of criminals. | ||
| And I'm at a very small station. | ||
| And lo and behold, they punish me and take my gun and badge. | ||
| And the shift that he was working was a shift I was on. | ||
| And it was a very small shift. | ||
| So I wasn't able to assist. | ||
| And I'm not blaming anyone because this is going to be used against me. | ||
| But I just want you to understand how I feel if you're a viewer at home. | ||
| You speak out against a problem with violent alien criminals and you're punished for it, taken out of the line of duty. | ||
| And then someone on your shift this happens to. | ||
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| Well, it's worse. | ||
| And it's not about me, but it weighs on me. | ||
| It's going to be something that's going to weigh on all of us for the rest of our lives. | ||
| And it's not about me. | ||
| It's about that man on the screen who's an absolute legend and a hero. | ||
| But that's what I'm kind of dealing with now. | ||
| It's like, well, I spoke out about this situation. | ||
| Was I not on your show saying there's violent criminal aliens that we're letting into the country? | ||
| They're not being removed. | ||
| And I'm punished for it. | ||
| And I could have been a force multiplier. | ||
| It's beyond vindication because... | ||
| The warning, unfortunately, came true, and it resulted in a tragic loss of life, completely unnecessary. | ||
| At a very small station in rural Vermont, this isn't a big station in California where I work on a shift with hundreds of men. | ||
| So when you talk about God, and I came on your show and I read Psalm 3, the first thing I ever did on Infowars. | ||
| And there's no such thing as luck, chance, a coincidence, brother. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Think about all the situations that transpired. | ||
| It's incredibly powerful, you know? | ||
| Well, let's talk about, has there been any developments as far as your reinstatement is concerned or leadership at the Border Patrol? | ||
| I mean, I know your current status left over from the Biden administration hasn't changed, but is there hopes for you to get back to your job? | ||
| I mean, where are you at as far as that's concerned? | ||
| I mean, if you want the cushy answer, I can give you the rah-rah speech right now. | ||
| I can say, hey, man. | ||
| Tell it like it is, man. | ||
| Just tell it like it is. | ||
| I can say, I can't wait to get back out there. | ||
| Listen, I went, you know, here's the thing, Owen, and I appreciate, because you have guys like me on. | ||
| You have journalists like Fernando Ase, this kid Samsel that was just on your show. | ||
| When I speak, I'm not trying to cry well with this kid, and I think you went away. | ||
| You were in prison, you know? | ||
| So there's like no sacrifice I made, but just to give all the viewers that might not be familiar, I went on, you know, I went on with James O'Keefe. | ||
| I did a piece. | ||
| My gun and badge are taken away. | ||
| I shook Holman's hand. | ||
| Listen, I want to take myself out of the equation. | ||
| Let's just look at it, honestly. | ||
| I think we probably brought around 30 million illegal aliens in the last four years, if not more. | ||
| You were standing out there as they were doing it, screaming at the Border Patrol agents. | ||
| That's one of my favorite clips. | ||
| You asking these guys, is it really worth it? | ||
| So that occurred. | ||
| I spoke out against it. | ||
| Now, Holman and Trump, they're very aggressive. | ||
| To me, and this isn't from what I've experienced, because I'm locked away in a room now doing administrative duties. | ||
| I'm just seeing the same things you're seeing. | ||
| I've been basically a leper. | ||
| I'm a pariah. | ||
| No one looks at me. | ||
| No one wants to talk to me. | ||
| I'm persona non grata. | ||
| For speaking the truth, nonetheless. | ||
| But what I'm seeing is a very aggressive immigration policy, and ICE and Border Patrol agents are doing what they signed up to do. | ||
| Now, will they be at the current rate they're going? | ||
| The numbers, you can't make them larger than what they are. | ||
| The numbers, they're removing people. | ||
| Are they going to ever get the 30 million people out of the country? | ||
| No. | ||
| But at least we're trending in the right direction. | ||
| As far as me getting my job back... | ||
| I'd like it back. | ||
| I think what they're going to do is obfuscate what I did. | ||
| So it's not going to be that I blew the whistle. | ||
| They're going to try to use something from previous to that and say that I did something wrong and therefore I can't work. | ||
| I don't know what their game plan is, but if you're just judging the situation fairly, there's no way what I did was a fireable offense. | ||
| That's not to say that Mr. Holman and Mr. Trump want me gone. | ||
| I just don't know if I'm a big priority on their radar. | ||
| I don't know if they want to... | ||
| Step in and save my job. | ||
| I don't know if that's possible. | ||
| I have hope, but do I see it happening? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I was taken off the line in October. | ||
| They still haven't proposed discipline. | ||
| Now, you would fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| So would it be Christy Noem that you have to petition, or would you have to go under her, or what? | ||
| The problem with these bureaucratic agencies, they hide the ball on you, right? | ||
| So we have something called OPR, Office of Professional Responsibility. | ||
| They're like CBP. Border Patrol is not its own agency. | ||
| We're under CBP. And there's a couple different agencies under CBP. You have the port. | ||
| You have the guys that patrol alongside the port. | ||
| That's us. | ||
| And between ports, you have AMO, which is Air Marine. | ||
| And we have our own internal investigations, which is OPR. They've been the ones investigating me. | ||
| They're saying that it's administrative because I didn't do anything criminal. | ||
| I didn't give away any operational security. | ||
| And the leader of OPR, because they fall under CBP, is Rodney Scott, who's an ex-Border Patrol agent who I've spoken to. | ||
| He reached out to me when I first came out before I got in trouble, and he said, you already fired the bullets downrange. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Just so happens that now Rodney Scott is in charge of all of CBP. So he's the guy that can call it off. | ||
| Will he? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No one really wants me to go and do these interviews, but what other way can I protect myself? | ||
| I didn't do it for money. | ||
| I didn't really do it to get a following. | ||
| I have 47,000 Twitter followers. | ||
| If they gave me my job back, I would delete my Twitter tomorrow and just go back to doing my job. | ||
| When they took my livelihood away and took a lot of my pay away, James O'Keefe donated $100,000. | ||
| And I'm more than great. | ||
| I can never thank him enough for that. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| You know, that's two years of pay after taxes. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't like a life-changing amount of money with all my bills adding up. | ||
| I have a lawyer that he assisted me with, but there's costs associated with that. | ||
| So I'm at a point where now it's like I spoke out and I did it on the principle of I'm not okay with this going on and I wanted it on the record that I wasn't okay with it. | ||
| And that's really all I've gotten out of it, Owen. | ||
| You know, I mean, you're a very smart man. | ||
| If you were me, what would you do? | ||
| Well, would you say... | ||
| Because I think it would kind of lead to my decision to answer the question. | ||
| Would you say Border Patrol morale was at its lowest when you decided to speak out? | ||
| I don't even think you can quantify it as morale. | ||
| I mean, it was sickening. | ||
| It was, you know, forgive me for being unprofessional. | ||
| It was cuckold behavior, cuckoldry. | ||
| I mean, it was like beyond sick and disgusting. | ||
| We were just getting as many people under this country as we could, regardless of if they had if we knew what their criminal background. | ||
| We're talking murderers and rapists. | ||
| And then they go and kill and rape women like Lincoln Riley. | ||
| And we're supposed to be OK with that. | ||
| So there was really no morale. | ||
| It was like sick, psychotic behavior. | ||
| So, yeah, it was a form of torture. | ||
| Yeah, but the thing is, whenever that's going on, there's obviously going to be guys that they don't want to leave the job, and they're going to say, well, this happened before, and we granted amnesty before. | ||
| It was never on this level, and I talked to a lot of old-timers that worked in the 70s, 80s, and they were like, thank you, someone finally did it. | ||
| Someone finally, quote-unquote, pulled the trigger and said, this isn't okay. | ||
| Yeah, it was psychotic paper, so I spoke out, because what if somebody said, like, you know... | ||
| What if somebody came in to run the country and said, why'd you do this? | ||
| And you just said, well, they were telling me too. | ||
| I was getting paid. | ||
| That wasn't a good excuse. | ||
| Me being told to do that wasn't a good enough excuse, regardless if anybody was also going to get me in trouble for it. | ||
| I gave my life over to Jesus Christ, right? | ||
| And that's a whole other conversation. | ||
| I'm not trying to preach that right now. | ||
| But what I'm saying is I had to meet my maker. | ||
| And ultimately, that was the leading cause of that, man. | ||
| Well, you're a man of your convictions, and I think that you had seen enough and you made your decision. | ||
| I mean, I can't say what I would do in your shoes, obviously, but I would say when I look at a situation where you're left with an opportunity to either shut up, sit down and shut up, or speak out, you know, I've obviously chosen the latter at every time down the line and paid the price as well. | ||
| So I think that we both have that in common. | ||
| I guess where I was trying to get, though, do Border Patrol agents feel better now? | ||
| I mean, is there a semblance of an increase of morale or, like, they can do their job again? | ||
| There's purpose again? | ||
| I mean, I have to imagine there's a culture shift within the Border Patrol agents since Trump got in. | ||
| Yeah, and I can make everyone at home feel great and say there is. | ||
| And there really is. | ||
| I mean, they're getting to do this. | ||
| It's kind of like a sport now. | ||
| They're going to catch people. | ||
| But when you have guys that worked for the last 20 years and everything, every single person they caught was wiped out in a week's worth of work. | ||
| Now when they're catching people and returning them, we just let in $30 million over the next four years. | ||
| How many are we going to remove? | ||
| I mean, the math still isn't going to add up, Owen. | ||
| They are happier. | ||
| They're not being forced to do psychotic behavior. | ||
| So in that sense, they're kind of let off the leash. | ||
| But the damage is kind of done, bro. | ||
| The victims have already been killed. | ||
| But at least they're trying to right the ship, right? | ||
| So I'll speak for myself. | ||
| If they were to give me my job back, I could go and do my job with a clear head. | ||
| Now, if we were still letting people in the country, I wouldn't even want my job back. | ||
| So the morale is definitely 180. You know, as great as this country is, it's going to be hard to undo what was happening. | ||
| And another reason I spoke out, too, is because both my brothers died of drug overdoses. | ||
| So I only had two siblings. | ||
| Both my brothers were lying in a grave, and I'm letting more drugs and people come into this country on a daily basis. | ||
| How would you feel? | ||
| Your brothers died of drug overdoses, and they were good dudes, and they're lying in a grave, and you're bringing in hundreds of people, and right down the road, there's... | ||
| There's just drugs coming every, you know, so often because we don't have enough agents to actually do the work because we're more busy bringing people into the country. | ||
| Was it fentanyl that they died from? | ||
| Yeah, they both died of fentanyl overdoses. | ||
| That's why I joined the Border Patrol. | ||
| And that is, yeah, it's almost exclusively coming over the southern border. | ||
| I mean, it's like 99% of it comes from the southern border. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| And it's like a movie, right? | ||
| So I had this point because I didn't just wake up one morning and speak out. | ||
| I was talking to some people. | ||
| Should I speak out? | ||
| They're like, hey, you're going to get ruined. | ||
| You're going to lose your job. | ||
| It's not going to be worth it. | ||
| But it's like a movie because both my parents lost my other two siblings. | ||
| There was only three of us. | ||
| So there was like this fork in the road where what if I didn't speak out? | ||
| And what if I got killed on the job? | ||
| So maybe speaking out saved my life. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I can't answer that question. | ||
| I'm not Jesus Christ. | ||
| But I'm just saying these are all crazy. | ||
| Coincidences like serendipity that all happened at the same time. | ||
| From a practical standpoint, do you think sending the military down to the southern border will help stop the flow, or do you think just the policy changes are more effective? | ||
| I think they're both effective. | ||
| I mean, we can always use more help. | ||
| It's a big desert. | ||
| I mean, you've been down there, dude. | ||
| I mean, you can never have enough guys. | ||
| You know, they need to hire as many people as humanly possible. | ||
| And obviously the policies of returning people, but send the military, send the national, whoever you got to send, send as many people and return them. | ||
| I mean, it's a... | ||
| The thing that I like about Border Patrol, it's not like you're a police officer where you're trying to determine all these different crimes. | ||
| It's not like you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes. | ||
| You're down there, you see a guy cross, you catch him and you return him back into Mexico where he came from or put him back into Canada. | ||
| And it takes a lot of men to do that. | ||
| I think our apprehensions are down and that's good. | ||
| That means less people are coming. | ||
| You can safely assume because they're not being able just to give up and then given a free ride into the country. | ||
| Well, that's been the most... | ||
| I mean, it really proves policy was the main driver of the immigration, the illegal immigration under Joe Biden versus it's dropped almost to nothing. | ||
| Record lows just day one after Trump got inaugurated. | ||
| So it proves it was all policy from the very beginning. | ||
| They tried to lie about it. | ||
| You saw it firsthand. | ||
| And then you got punished for speaking out. | ||
| Well, brother, whatever. | ||
| Let me ask you one last thing, though, if you don't mind me. | ||
| Let me just ask you one thing. | ||
| So being me, right, like. | ||
| I speak out, and now I'm probably looking down the barrel of getting fired. | ||
| And that's the best, maybe one of the better case scenarios. | ||
| I don't know what else they'll do to me. | ||
| It's like, was it really worth it, Owen? | ||
| I mean, was it really the thing to do? | ||
| I mean, can I, in good faith, tell another whistleblower to not just... | ||
| I mean, I was probably going to quit anyway, so at least I brought some attention to the issue. | ||
| And I put an asterisk next to my name as somebody that stood up against it. | ||
| But, you know, I was making... | ||
| Before I spoke, because they're going to say I did X, Y, and Z, and I was this bad agent. | ||
| They're going to make up probably any other reason to fire me. | ||
| But in reality, as you saw in the movie, I had my gun and badge on my hip. | ||
| I was working every day. | ||
| If I kept my mouth closed, I'd be making money now, and I wouldn't be looking for another employer. | ||
| What am I going to go do? | ||
| I mean, if you were me, it's easy to say people would have spoke up, but I was only two. | ||
| I had another agent speak out after me because I inspired them. | ||
| I mean, he said he was inspired by me. | ||
| I don't know if it was. | ||
| He's also a very strong guy, Aaron Becky. | ||
| But it was only two guys out of like 20,000. | ||
| So was it really worth it? | ||
| You know, maybe I should have kept my mouth closed. | ||
| Once again, I'm a Christian, so that's kind of why I did it. | ||
| But other than that, I mean, it's not the best career advice to go speak out against these things. | ||
| Well, I think, again, you're a man of your convictions. | ||
| It doesn't sound like you have any regrets. | ||
| Everybody questions decisions they make that impact their lives, obviously, but you stood by your convictions. | ||
| I think you did the right thing. | ||
| I would say God is going to provide the opportunity for you, whatever that is, whether that's getting back to your job or something else, but that's kind of how I view your situation. | ||
| I would hope they invite you back. | ||
| I don't know why they wouldn't. | ||
| There's new leadership. | ||
| Your case should be brought to the very top. | ||
| I mean, you know, bless Christy Noem's heart. | ||
| She's getting all dolled up to go out on the streets. | ||
| But, you know, if we can get your name to her desk or whosever desk that needs to see your case and say, hey, we're reinstating this man. | ||
| Give him his gun. | ||
| Give him his badge. | ||
| Put him back on the border to do the work that he was meant to do. | ||
| I think that would be the best case scenario for everybody. | ||
| And it would deter what you're talking about to say, I can't in good faith give somebody bad career advice. | ||
| I can tell them my experience, but I can't give them bad career advice. | ||
| But if you can get reinstated, you know, that might make you rest a little more easier with other people talking to you about, you know, maybe other concerns they have. | ||
| Yeah, I could tell the next guy. | ||
| I could say, hey, man, I spoke out and I got my job back. | ||
| But if a kid came to me at this point and said, hey, I saw X, Y, and Z, you think I should say something? | ||
| I'd say, listen, I think you should say something, but don't expect to be in a better position than if you kept your mouth closed. | ||
| I mean, that's just the reality of it. | ||
| And it's kind of a weird thing where it's like, I don't want to talk bad about the incoming administration. | ||
| They're doing great. | ||
| But it's like, I feel a little left out. | ||
| You know what I mean, brother? | ||
| And I'm not looking to get my gun. | ||
| And if I had the opportunity to speak to these people, I wouldn't tell them to give me my gun and badge back. | ||
| I'd say, look at my situation. | ||
| Just look at it fairly. | ||
| Just look at the whole thing and see what I did and judge it based off that. | ||
| I mean, I spoke out in uniform. | ||
| There's guys that have done much worse that have kept their job. | ||
| I can tell you that. | ||
| I spoke out against something that no one else was speaking out against. | ||
| It's like, you know, maybe I didn't have the best tact, but if I was a leader, I'd want a kid like that. | ||
| I'd be like, hey, at least this kid's going to do what's right regardless of what he's being told to do. | ||
| Well, unfortunately, you were vindicated in the worst way possible, but that did happen. | ||
| That did unfortunately happen to a dear friend of yours. | ||
| Zach, I appreciate your time. | ||
| I just get the feeling someone's going to right this wrong. | ||
| And I really hope that that's the case. | ||
| And the next time we're talking, we can talk about you getting back to work. | ||
| Or you're going to say, sorry, can't go back on the air. | ||
| I've got to get my ass down to the border. | ||
| So I hope that's the case. | ||
| Zach, appreciate your time today. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Yeah, God bless you guys. | ||
| Jesus Christ saves. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| All right. | ||
| A couple incredible guests there. | ||
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| I'm going to get into some real important legal news, specifically Trump ending the federal income tax with Bob Barnes, who doesn't just do civil rights litigation, but also tax litigation. | ||
| So he's really an expert on a lot of these issues that are coming to the fore with the changing of the guard at the White House. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| I got a short five-minute segment. | ||
| I'll probably just do some headline coverage. | ||
| And then Bob Barnes is going to join me for the third hour to talk about all these EOs and this idea of abolishing the federal income tax. | ||
| Can we do it? | ||
| What does it look like if we do? | ||
| Is it even legal? | ||
| Bob Barnes coming up shortly. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I got a lot of important stuff to discuss with Bob Barnes coming up in about five minutes. | ||
| Some big legal ramifications. | ||
| It looks like this is breaking right now. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I mean, I'm sorry to laugh. | ||
| It's really not funny, but go ahead and put the headline back up there. | ||
| It's a breaking headline right now. | ||
| Co-pilot of Black Hawk helicopter involved in mid-air collision was a woman. | ||
| Doesn't mean she can't fly a helicopter or co-pilot, but it does make you wonder if it wasn't a diversity, equity, and inclusion role hire that landed her as that co-pilot. | ||
| And maybe potentially led to the deadly crash. | ||
| It truly is deadly stuff. | ||
| And I don't say this stuff to be... | ||
| Shock jockey or extreme. | ||
| It's a real phenomenon. | ||
| Leftist policies are death. | ||
| They are death. | ||
| Liberal policies, Democrat policies equal death. | ||
| That's not a turn of phrase. | ||
| That's not an exaggeration. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| They lead to death. | ||
| The open borders, the DEI, all of it. | ||
| It all is deadly. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| That's why I'm so serious about ridding our body politic of this cancer. | ||
| These policies are deadly. | ||
| Give liberals, give Democrats a little plastics, a little plastic, little tykes, political kit, and they can go play around and not hurt anybody. | ||
| Liberal Democrat policies hurt people and get people killed. | ||
| It's completely unacceptable. | ||
| And yet, here we are again. | ||
| By the way, look at Michael Strahan on interviewing Caroline Levitt. | ||
| This is just ridiculous. | ||
| I mean, goodness gracious, Michael. | ||
| Do better. | ||
| Clip one. | ||
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But is there any concern that we risk losing people with years of experience like doctors and, let's say, scientists? | |
| Well, most doctors who work in actual hospitals and medical institutions have to show up to the office. | ||
| We know that employees are more productive and more efficient when they are working in an in-office environment, and that's what this administration expects, and I think that's what American taxpayers expect. | ||
| Don't forget, it's the American people who are funding this government, and they deserve people who are actually showing up to work on their... | ||
| We're going to be losing doctors because of a new agenda that says you have to show up at work. | ||
| Well, they don't. | ||
| There's so many things wrong with that question. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| These people vote. | ||
| And they vote Democrat. | ||
| Goodness. | ||
| Look at this clip in 25. Now, the individual reporting here is speaking in Spanish. | ||
| But this is Mexico. | ||
| Look, we've seen the Associated Press. | ||
| They say, it's catastrophic. | ||
| These countries can't handle the influx. | ||
| But, okay, it's not catastrophic for us. | ||
| We played the video yesterday of this leftist reporter. | ||
| Mexico can't handle all these people. | ||
| What is President Trump thinking? | ||
| Oh, but America's supposed to. | ||
| Do you understand what a reality wake-up call this is about to be? | ||
| Here's hundreds, if not thousands, of people that made the trek to get to the southern border. | ||
| Now they can't get in, and they're stranded in Mexico. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Mexico says we can't handle them. | ||
| Mexico says this is catastrophic. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| This is what we've been dealing with for four years. | ||
| And so now that it's happening in their countries, and now that they're expected to foot the bill and take care of these people, all of a sudden it's going to be an issue, and all of a sudden they're going to want to stop illegal immigration. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| So these scenes in Mexico, oh my gosh, look at these lines, hundreds, thousands of illegal immigrants. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| We can't do this. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Neither could we. | ||
| And you made us do it for four years. | ||
| All right, I am really excited to hear from Bob Barnes here on a multitude of stories that his expertise is going to be paramount. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I don't know if he knows this, but his own law center is up to something today. | ||
| And, you know, they have represented me, the 1776 Law Center. | ||
| 1776lawcenter.com has represented me, and not only now in my defense, but also some cases where we're going on the offense. | ||
| So maybe we'll talk about that coming up here with Attorney Bob Barnes. | ||
| But this is where I really want to hear your take, because I'm sure... | ||
| I mean, I get a little anxious. | ||
| My heart rate goes up a little bit every time I hear Trump talking about abolishing the federal income tax. | ||
| So, when you hear this, and he even lays out the historical perspective of it, going back over a century, you've done a lot of tax cases, you've handled my tax cases, so you're very well aware of these laws. | ||
| What is the answer here? | ||
| Abolishing the federal income tax? | ||
| Abolishing the IRS? When you hear Trump talk like this, what goes through your mind? | ||
| Well, I think it's the right idea. | ||
| I mean, what he's talking about is that our country was founded on taxing foreign enterprise, not American enterprise, and that that had a wide range of benefits for building up American industry, for building up American manufacturing, for building up American farming. | ||
| And his point is that there's no reason for us to not want to return to that better way of life for the American economy. | ||
| Most prosperous American economy was pre-income tax when we relied on tariffs, particularly because they served a dual purpose. | ||
| One purpose was a source of revenue for the government, but the other was a mechanism to build up American industry and manufacturing by giving domestic industry a competitive edge that they didn't have to pay that tax. | ||
| Like he's talking about more broadly. | ||
| And if you locate in the U.S., he wants that tax to be as low as possible if you build and make things here in America. | ||
| He wants every incentive on the planet to exist to restore American manufacturing and the independence of our supply chain, which as people figured out during COVID, we're actually dependent on China for essential items of everyday living. | ||
| And that's not a position you want to be in. | ||
| That's real leverage that China is developing against the rest of the world. | ||
| If you want to be able to get energy, if you want to be able to feed your family, if you want to be able to get basic essential items for the modern economy, you depend on China's goodwill. | ||
| And we don't want that to be the case either. | ||
| So for national security, for economic security, for economic prosperity, for a government that will stay within its limits, the most beneficial thing you could do is shift from a domestic tax system to a foreign tariff system. | ||
| So he's absolutely on to something. | ||
| Whether he can get enough support for it to get it through is yet to be determined. | ||
| But at least he's on the right path. | ||
| The other aspect is, as long as the IRS exists, the IRS is not just a tax collection agency. | ||
| It is a mass surveillance and control agency. | ||
| It is intended that you, in order to get those little tax deductions, you confess everything about your life. | ||
| You tell the IRS every year. | ||
| Here's who I am. | ||
| Here's where I live. | ||
| Here's my birthday. | ||
| Here's who I live with. | ||
| Here's what churches I give to. | ||
| Here's what political people I give to. | ||
| Here's what charities I give to. | ||
| Here's what people I have in my everyday life economically. | ||
| You basically do a confession that's more detailed than what you would give a priest. | ||
| And so if we could take that away, power from the federal government, that too would be an extraordinary benefit. | ||
| So I think at every level, he's on the right path. | ||
| How long would something like this take to implement? | ||
| Is it something he can just, with the stroke of a pen? | ||
| Or, I mean, he doesn't really need Congress. | ||
| Yeah, he would need Congress, but yeah, absolutely. | ||
| With ease, they could say no more income tax. | ||
| It'll be over tomorrow. | ||
| And the IRS agents have to go get a new job. | ||
| It's my argument to Trump's people about what they should be doing with the federal government in terms of, and I think he's on the right path there, like saying, hey, please resign. | ||
| If you resign, we'll give you some extra benefits. | ||
| That helps get rid of 10, 20% of federal employees. | ||
| And now we just need 80% more. | ||
| And so I've been recommending defund them. | ||
| The easiest way to get rid of them is to defund them. | ||
| If you try to demote them, they sue you. | ||
| If you try to fire them, they sue you. | ||
| If you try to change their benefits, they sue you. | ||
| If you try to move them to an undesirable location, they sue you. | ||
| So the best way to avoid that is just if there's no money for them, too bad. | ||
| They're out of luck. | ||
| So that's the one area where they can't extort the courts into extorting the Trump administration into continuing in their position in power. | ||
| But as your video pointed out, not only are these people not positive and productive, these people are negative forces on the American economy and society. | ||
| And we got in their arrogance and condescension. | ||
| I mean, almost all of grant programs are basically ways to line the pockets of the Democratic elites. | ||
| That's what they all are. | ||
| That's what university aid is. | ||
| Well, and I don't understand how that excuse... | ||
| It's not an excuse. | ||
| It's the reality. | ||
| We're running at a massive deficit. | ||
| Our debt is uncontrollable. | ||
| There's no reason to say, hey, look, we have to do this. | ||
| Forget about politics. | ||
| Forget about partisan politics. | ||
| This is a straight financial decision. | ||
| We've got to cut. | ||
| We've got to cut. | ||
| It has to be done. | ||
| Sorry, that's the reality. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Trump buying out these federal workers, it's like, okay, maybe it's a nice little pat on the head to get him to quit and get him off his back. | ||
| Part of me just says, no, how about just, you're fired? | ||
| How about just slash him? | ||
| But whatever, if it still saves us money in the end, which it will, I can still support it. | ||
| But isn't that, I mean, where's the debate there? | ||
| How can they even push back against this financial situation that we're in? | ||
| It's due to a combination of three things. | ||
| So the first thing is that civil service reform is one of the worst things that could ever happen because it allowed the bureaucracy to be permanently in power without being responsive to the American people through elections. | ||
| Elections have no impact on them. | ||
| The second problem is the size and scale of the government has become so subsuming that all kinds of people are economically dependent on it now, which is its own problem and developed into its own animal. | ||
| And then the third problem is the judiciary is very pro-bureaucracy. | ||
| And so on average, particularly in the district of corruption, which we just need to get rid of that court system altogether, restore home rule and take away all the D.C. court system. | ||
| They have been a persistent problem, and they've proven how political they are in the last eight, nine years where they would routinely intervene in Trump's administration, routinely reaffirm the Biden administration, all of the insanity that took place, the January 6th cases. | ||
| So that anytime he tries to do anything towards these federal employees, they run to court. | ||
| The one area where the courts can't force something is they can't force you to spend money you don't got. | ||
| And that's where it is. | ||
| The reason why he went with the resignation remedy is that's a remedy they can't sue over because they're volunteering for it and it's consistent to congressional legislation. | ||
| It still hasn't stopped senators and congressmen from complaining about it. | ||
| That gives you how extreme it is. | ||
| Basically, we have a D.C., a parasitic class in Washington. | ||
| That is parasitic to the rest of the world and the rest of America. | ||
| And what they've done is they've built up this permanent bureaucracy that is their main protection. | ||
| And they enrich and reward. | ||
| They built a new democratic political machine. | ||
| It's just called federal government. | ||
| And whether it's grants to NGOs, whether it's independent contractors or secretly deep state allies, or whether it's federal employees getting fact-checked for staying at home and not even working. | ||
| All of it has become this massive democratic political machine that is sapping real economy and energy from the rest of the people. | ||
| And we're just seeing it on display at scale in how they go crazy if Trump simply says, no, we're not going to fund DEI scholarships in Burma. | ||
| No, we're not going to try to teach the Palestinians how to use birth control. | ||
| They go insane. | ||
| What do you mean there's not $35 million for that? | ||
| I mean, this is how out of touch with the real world they are. | ||
| But Robert, how will the world survive without $50 million of condoms for Gaza? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how we survive this. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| How do we survive without giving scholarships to people in Myanmar? | ||
| Or Burma, whatever it's now called. | ||
| I mean, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| Like the State Department. | ||
| We're like, what do you mean we're not going to continue to support the entire Ukrainian government? | ||
| The American people are still unaware. | ||
| That we have been paying the entire Ukrainian government's bills. | ||
| We have been employing half the country with U.S. taxpayer dollars. | ||
| That's how nuts this is. | ||
| And the State Department's like, what? | ||
| Well, what do you mean we're not paying for janitorial services in Kiev? | ||
| I mean, most Americans are like, what in the world is going on? | ||
| I can't afford basic medicine. | ||
| I can't afford education. | ||
| I can't afford a car. | ||
| I can't afford a house. | ||
| I can't afford food. | ||
| I can't afford eggs because Biden's going around whacking all the chickens. | ||
| And we're giving money so that Zelensky's wife can go on her third shopping tour to Paris? | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| Yeah, the Kiev oligarchs are doing quite well. | ||
| And for the most part, this war has not even touched them. | ||
| And so that's why they don't mind it, because they're living in their bubble while the rest of Ukraine pays it. | ||
| But let's look at some of these Trump executive orders and policies. | ||
| And now... | ||
| You know, the diversity, equity, and inclusion phenomenon is kind of reaching ahead again after the tragic plane crash yesterday. | ||
| And of course people immediately start to think about that stuff. | ||
| I mean, how could we not? | ||
| They shoved it down our throats, they made it policy, and then you bring it up and they pretend like it's illegitimate to even act like it exists, even though they brag about it. | ||
| Here's some of the things, you know, he mentioned getting rid of the DEI programs in the federal government. | ||
| I also happen to know, same case with any federal contractor as well, because they have the same standards. | ||
| So that impacted a lot of different industries. | ||
| He also signed this executive order yesterday, ending radical indoctrination in K-12 schooling. | ||
| That's your critical race theory. | ||
| That's your gender ideology. | ||
| How is it, from somebody that really understands civil rights decisions in the court, how did they get away with this? | ||
| How were they able to get away with hiring based off of race, but using this blanket of protection called diversity, equity, and inclusion? | ||
| How did we get here? | ||
| I mean, it's really extraordinary. | ||
| I mean, I brought suit, for example, against IBM and Red Hat with America First Legal, Stephen Miller's group. | ||
| Now he's in the White House. | ||
| And it was extraordinary. | ||
| He brought suits by American Press Legal all across the country and was constantly winning. | ||
| This wasn't winning enough to set it aside. | ||
| And there were enough corrupt courts, partisan courts, that weren't intervening and that were letting them get away with it. | ||
| Because this was always illegal to discriminate to say, okay, because of the color of your skin, because of your ancestry, because of who your parents or grandparents happen to be. | ||
| Because of what gender we decide you are, suddenly you're going to get special benefits above others. | ||
| Now, of course, what they're discovering is Trump's going to have to be doubly diligent because when he's getting rid of the DEI programs, they're just rebranding. | ||
| They're just calling themselves other things. | ||
| And one of the things that's fascinating about these programs is it's coming out that there was hierarchies within them so that the person who got paid the most was like the diversity manager. | ||
| And it reminded me of Orwell's Animal Farm. | ||
| It turns out some pigs are more equal than others. | ||
| The other thing this all was, it wasn't just social experimentation. | ||
| It was a way to get money to the Democratic Party. | ||
| That's what 90% of it was. | ||
| That's how Joe Biden processed foreign aid. | ||
| How much money is my family going to get out of this? | ||
| You dig in, you see people like data nerds and other people that are online that are helping out Doge and documenting. | ||
| You dig into the grants. | ||
| All the grants are just giving money to their political pals. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It was sapping from the productive American people to line the pockets of the Democratic Party's pals. | ||
| That's what 90% of DEI was. | ||
| It was making sure the right person got that contract, the right person got that job, and the right person had their pockets lined. | ||
| And it was to keep them dependent, just like their welfare programs are intended to keep people dependent. | ||
| They don't want people independent. | ||
| If they actually created welfare programs that gave microcapital to black America and black America used it to be economically successful and become economically independent as it once was before a lot of these programs were instituted, then all of a sudden they lose the votes. | ||
| They need them to be dependent in order to get the votes. | ||
| It's all one big scam to bribe votes and keep votes on their team in the name of helping some disadvantaged constituents. | ||
| But it's like Bernie Sanders has been exposed. | ||
| In these RFK hearings. | ||
| Here's Bernie. | ||
| I fight the man. | ||
| I fight big pharma. | ||
| I'm taking on the big corporations. | ||
| No, you're Bernie. | ||
| You're Bend Over Bernie for a reason. | ||
| That's why they know you as Bend Over Bernie. | ||
| Today, he was arguing with Robert Kennedy. | ||
| Always a bad idea for people to do. | ||
| He's much more likely to be well-armed with the facts than you. | ||
| Bernie was like, oh, no. | ||
| I didn't take millions of dollars from pharmaceuticals. | ||
| It was just regular employees. | ||
| Never the executives. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| It was the janitor sending you $1.5 million, Bernie. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Of course, you go to the list. | ||
| It's executive. | ||
| Their own description. | ||
| Executive, executive, executive, executive. | ||
| And this is public information. | ||
| That's what's so—I mean, Bernie Sanders—look, at one point, I thought Bernie Sanders was—and probably was—one of the good guys. | ||
| You know, he really was kind of an anti— That's the same. | ||
| He was a max contributor to Bernie Sanders in 2016. Yeah. | ||
| Along with Trump. | ||
| I believe that he wanted to reform things. | ||
| When he said immigration was a big corporate conspiracy to steal American wages, I was like, there you go. | ||
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And then the Clintons and the Democrat machine bought him off. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But what happened is he started to see the grapes. | ||
| Like, I could see the grapes in the White House. | ||
| Oh, and from that point forward, he did whatever they told him. | ||
| Bend over Bernie became who he was from 2016 forward. | ||
| He's no longer little commie Bernie with some good Second Amendment ideas from rural Vermont. | ||
| He's true commie Bernie on behalf of the corporate elites and their fascistic crowd who want to continue to control government policy to line their pockets at our expense. | ||
| You brought up Orwell's Animal Farm. | ||
| Most people think about 1984, but actually I feel like they get a lot of their manuscript from Animal Farm, specifically the rewriting of the rules. | ||
| They've been doing this forever. | ||
| Now they're doing it again with the the D.I.E. stuff and they expect us to not notice it. | ||
| It was just like what they did in Animal Farm. | ||
| They they they had their laws and then they'd rewrite the laws and the animals would wake up and they'd be like, wait a second. | ||
| I thought that that was that's not what that law said. | ||
| So it's like the same thing. | ||
| It's like, oh, D.I. chief. | ||
| And then you wake up the next day and it's like chief executive of hiring or something. | ||
| You're like, wait a second. | ||
| No, that was the D.I. chief yesterday. | ||
| No, it wasn't. | ||
| It was always the hiring executive. | ||
| So I don't know if there's anybody doing oversight of this stuff. | ||
| They probably had a, I'm guessing they had like a budget earmark where they were expecting a certain number of the federal budget to go down. | ||
| And that may be the way they kind of do oversight of this. | ||
| But yeah, they just did a name swap on a lot of these things. | ||
| And I mean, I hope they don't get away with it. | ||
| Oh, I agree. | ||
| I mean, what has been a crash course, I don't think Democrats realize their response to Robert Kennedy. | ||
| As well as Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel, is doing severe damage to the Democratic Party brand. | ||
| There's a lot of normies out there that believed Bernie Sanders was fighting the man, that believed Elizabeth Warren wanted to take on corrupt corporate power on behalf of the ordinary consumer, not realizing that these are the top two recipients of big pharma money just laundered through their executives and other people rather than through a corporate PAC. That they are bought and paid for, but now they're seeing it on full display. | ||
| I mean, imagine all these Democrats. | ||
| I mean, Kennedy is Democratic royalty. | ||
| There's people that have been his lifelong friend for 50 years that are willing to betray that to serve their donors and the deep state. | ||
| And all it is, it's a crash course for all those Kennedy voters, many of whom, by the way, voted for Trump at the top of the ticket, but a good number of them voted Democrat down ballot. | ||
| And now they're discovering why voting Democrat down ballot is not an option. | ||
| There's a reason why the Quinnipiac poll just had the Democratic Party have a lower approval rating than any time in the history of the Democratic Party. | ||
| It is at that level of nadir. | ||
| It is worse than when it was under George McGovern. | ||
| Because even then, your local person thought of their local Democrat as much as part of the party as McGovern did. | ||
| Now they're seeing they don't have any allies. | ||
| People they thought were their allies? | ||
| Bernie Sanders, stand up to the man. | ||
| I'm going to bring a revolution. | ||
| Elizabeth Warren, consumer protection. | ||
| Let's take on the big corporations. | ||
| And then they see they be the lead Democrats attacking the only real Democrat that has attacked big corporations for his lifetime and his career, and that's Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. And they're like, holy cow, these guys are all frauds. | ||
| They're all fakes. | ||
| They're all phonies. | ||
| I think that's half the reason. | ||
| I was curious, why did Trump nominate? | ||
| Kennedy and Gabbard, knowing that going through the nomination process was going to be the most tough path to get them into official positions of power when he could put them in other positions. | ||
| And the talk throughout the summer and the fall was that Kennedy himself told Tucker Carlson, it'll be tough for me to get through Congress. | ||
| But then I watched the hearings and I'm like, of course, this is why he did it this way. | ||
| He did it this way to give a crash course to his own base. | ||
| And give a crash course to the independent voters who are the big swing voters in the future, working class voters, disproportionately African-American, Hispanic, Asian, but who become, after COVID, deeply skeptical of the Democratic Party brand because of the economic impact. | ||
| They tend not to like illegal immigration because it impacts them more than anybody else. | ||
| They lose jobs. | ||
| They lose school standing. | ||
| They lose housing access. | ||
| They're the ones who suffer the economic detriment. | ||
| But then I see the hearings and I see exactly why. | ||
| He wanted these voters to understand how the Democratic Party is lost, that it's dead, that it's DOA. The party of Andrew Jackson is no longer the party of Andrew Jackson. | ||
| It's the party of the central banks that Andrew Jackson spent so much time fighting. | ||
| And these hearings are highlighting that. | ||
| They're broadcasting that. | ||
| They're showing how much the Democratic Party literally worships vaccines like they're God. | ||
| That if you say anything against them, you are a heretic who must be burned at the stake. | ||
| How corrupt these people are. | ||
| How Kash Patel trying to restore credibility to the FBI, and he's the one that they're attacking. | ||
| That Tulsi Gabbard trying to give us honest intelligence for the first time in the history of American intelligence agencies. | ||
| And for that very reason, they're going ballistic on her. | ||
| But all those normies out there who believe the nonsense about the Democratic Party brand, and normie conservatives. | ||
| Who still thought Mitch McConnell was one of us. | ||
| Who still thought that some of these conservatives were conservative at all. | ||
| So far, these hearings have been very revelatory. | ||
| They're going to be politically consequential, no matter whether these people get confirmed or not. | ||
| The Democratic Party is destroying itself in live time. | ||
| If Murkowski and Collins, and probably even McConnell at this point, if they were honest, they would have a D behind their name. | ||
| And so it's hard to even argue that Republicans have the edge in the Senate. | ||
| I mean, technically on paper they do, but I mean... | ||
| It's 50-50. | ||
| I don't mind Collins because she's from a Democratic state. | ||
| I mind Murkowski because she's from a state Trump won by double-digit. | ||
| And she inherited that seat. | ||
| She's totally illegitimate. | ||
| Trump won by 31 points! | ||
| So I would say, too, because I put principle over party, and obviously the Republican Party is much more aligned with my principles than the Democrats, especially now it's not even close. | ||
| But Gabbard, RFK Jr., these are former Democrats. | ||
| I mean, these used to be the most popular Democrats. | ||
| And so I do wonder what the final damage is going to look like here when it's the Democrats coming after their own, really, more so than even the Republicans who are now cooperating and trying to get these nominees confirmed. | ||
| I do wonder what the final damage is going to look like. | ||
| I guess we won't really know until the midterms. | ||
| But man, some of these Democrats, they've really embarrassed themselves, I would say. | ||
| And really, it's a sickening display, actually. | ||
| Well, and I think they're living in a fantasy land. | ||
| Like, they're living, like, five years ago, you could get away with preaching about the wonders of vaccines. | ||
| And you could attack Robert Kennedy, and the normie would have been like, oh, yeah, vaccines are wonderful, etc. | ||
| Post-COVID, that's not the case anymore. | ||
| Like, we did a big, massive survey that we provided to Trump's people last spring. | ||
| Richard Barris, People's Pundit Daily, put it together. | ||
| And what we found was one in three Americans were considering voting for Robert Kennedy for president. | ||
| And what was animating them? | ||
| Food freedom and medical freedom were the top two issues that were driving them. | ||
| These were one out of three Americans know somebody that has either been discriminated against because of the vaccine or has been injured from the vaccine. | ||
| I mean, that's extraordinary. | ||
| And they're up there pretending vaccines are still sacrosanct. | ||
| Vaccines are, it's like they're the Catholic Church in the middle of the Protestant Reformation who don't realize the Reformation is here. | ||
| And the Gabbard is another indicator of how corrupt our system has become. | ||
| And credit to Trump, using their confirmation hearings to educate the world at just how corrupt Washington is. | ||
| It certainly has. | ||
| It certainly has. | ||
| Bob Barnes is my guest. | ||
| We've got more news coming up. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
| All right, we've got Bob Barnes with us from the 1776 Law Center, who has been so imperative in my legal defense. | ||
| So you can... | ||
| Support them by going to 1776lawcenter.com. | ||
| They're also defending me in a very big case right now. | ||
| I don't like to talk about it, but it's a very important legal defense of me going on right now as well. | ||
| And you can support that by going to owendefense.com in that legal defense. | ||
| But we're also, I will tell you, going on the offense now as well. | ||
| And without going into the details, we've also now... | ||
| So now we're also going on the offense over there at the 1776lawcenter.com. | ||
| Now, this one I might be scooping you on, actually, Bob. | ||
| I don't know if you've heard about this one yet. | ||
| Soon we will be – actually, it may have already been done. | ||
| But I talked with some of your legal team, specifically Lexi, who's representing me in some other cases. | ||
| I said, hey, why don't we file a FOIA request on all of these states – I don't know if you saw this, but Tuesday night, Jesse Waters was able to get transcripts of the COVID snitch line in Minnesota. | ||
| And these quotes are some of the funniest things that I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I have them clipped out here. | ||
| And so I said, hey, why don't we file a FOIA request to Minnesota? | ||
| And any other states that had a COVID snitch line, and let's actually get the audio files and play them on the air. | ||
| If not for the insanity that was those years under Democrat rule, but for the sheer comedy of it. | ||
| So if it hasn't been officially filed, it's in the process. | ||
| We're now filing a FOIA request to get all audio from the COVID snitch lines. | ||
| So you're going to hear about people calling, my neighbor was outside without a mask. | ||
| My neighbor was mowing the lawn. | ||
| He didn't wear a mask. | ||
| Oh, they took their children out playing outside during COVID. So it's great stuff you're doing over there at the 1776 Law Center. | ||
| And I can't think of any reason why they would not give us this audio. | ||
| It's not like there's any reason not to. | ||
| It should be publicly available. | ||
| Oh, exactly. | ||
| And I've encouraged people to really deepen and broaden their use of the Freedom of Information Act at a federal level and all the state-level equivalents of that. | ||
| Whether it's called the Open Records Act or sometimes there'll be a sunshine law. | ||
| It might have different verbiage, but you're entitled to know what your local government is doing, your state government is doing, and your federal government is doing, including when they receive information from third-party sources that is not private because it's disclosed directly to the government in a public matter. | ||
| And so I'm all in favor of more people learning how to do that. | ||
| I mean, the only reason why we know about Hillary Clinton's emails is because Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch did a big FOIA request and stumbled on the fact that she had hidden and destroyed and deleted a bunch of emails and was operating a secret email server outside of government control or knowledge while she was secretary of state. | ||
| So if there's so much, it's like great credit to President Trump declassifying the JFK files, the RFK files, the MLK files that are in process. | ||
| I would like the Malcolm X files to also be declassified. | ||
| I would like Russiagate files to be declassified, COVID-19 files to be declassified. | ||
| There's more work to be done in that regard, but it's on the right path. | ||
| But if more ordinary everyday people, like people can use the Freedom of Information Act and the Privacy Act. | ||
| What does the IRS have on you? | ||
| What does the FBI have on you? | ||
| Is the government monitoring you? | ||
| You're entitled to know that about yourself. | ||
| And you can request all these agencies provide information about you. | ||
| We were going to do it for Alex, but then I realized that we would probably need like three gigabytes of material because every government agency known to man has been spying on Alex. | ||
| So it turned out to be a long list. | ||
| But I think it's really useful. | ||
| We're going to be developing it. | ||
| We're going to use your case and other cases to teach people at 1776 Law Center how they can use in their state, whatever the laws are, will help draft the template so that people can plug and play. | ||
| It's sort of like the vaccine mandate cases. | ||
| When that first happened, I put out a letter that I said, here's the kind of thing courts generally look for as being an approved religious exemption. | ||
| And people were able to borrow from that, learn from that, use that. | ||
| It was all free. | ||
| And protect their livelihood. | ||
| I mean, literally millions of Americans that protect it. | ||
| I hear from them every day, somebody saying, you know, this helped save my job. | ||
| So I think we all need to be active as citizen journalists, as citizens participating in our government to check our government by doing this. | ||
| I mean, think about like all the crowdsourcing that went into exposing each of these Democratic senators in live time. | ||
| During the RFK hearings about how they took all this money from Big Pharma. | ||
| That's crowdsourcing, grassroots, investigative, independent citizen journalism for which the Freedom of Information Act and its equivalent is a great tool. | ||
| Look at Georgia. | ||
| It was them asking for the ballots where they found out they had never looked at the ballots. | ||
| And then when they did look at the ballots, they found there were discrepancy with the ballots and exposed systemic flaws in the Georgia's election system thanks to people using the Freedom of Information Act. | ||
| So it's a very powerful tool that everybody should learn how to use to protect themselves and be better citizens. | ||
| I just can't even imagine what this audio must sound like. | ||
| I rode my bike. | ||
| I was not wearing a mask. | ||
| I guess they're snitching on themselves. | ||
| They must feel just the utmost of guilt here. | ||
| Past groups of people jogging from CrossFit, there were groups of four and five. | ||
| They weren't wearing masks. | ||
| They weren't social distancing. | ||
| I wasn't wearing a mask on my bike either, but I wasn't riding with people and I was trying to stay away from people. | ||
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I mean, this is just comedy gold. | |
| It is. | ||
| And it reveals the degree of delusional insanity. | ||
| It's like watching the Milgram experiments in live time, where you see these people sit there and shock somebody they don't even know just because somebody in a white lab coat tells them to. | ||
| I mean, my favorite one was people who were riding alone in their car with a mask on. | ||
| I still see that every once in a while. | ||
| Oh, it's insane. | ||
| And there's still discrimination against the unvaccinated. | ||
| Now, I mean, you get a sense for how religious this is for people with the way Bernie Sanders went nuts over it yesterday over a onesie. | ||
| A onesie for your toddler that says unvaxed, unafraid drove him crazy. | ||
| It was like you were watching an Inquisition official seeing the Protestant Reformation in live time. | ||
| Their disconnect is extraordinary. | ||
| Their delusion is nuts. | ||
| I mean, I represented people who could not wear a mask, went into a grocery store, and they had people running, screaming at them about how now they were going to die because this person without a mask walked in, not even realizing they were getting closer to them and not even properly working the mask with the way they were screaming at them. | ||
| It was just insanity. | ||
| It shows you, I thought at some point Fauci was going to see how far he could go and say, okay, if you really want to avoid COVID, you can't drive anymore. | ||
| You have to walk everywhere, but you can't walk with both feet. | ||
| You have to hop. | ||
| And if you hop on one foot everywhere you go, then you'll avoid COVID. And you know what? | ||
| Half the country would have done it. | ||
| Yeah, maybe he colludes with Rabbi Shmully for a kosher butt plug to make sure that people can avoid getting their COVID through, you know. | ||
| Okay, we'll just stop right there. | ||
| Remember when they had people in like physical whole body size condoms effectively? | ||
| That if you're going to hug your loved one, you need to be in a whole plastic mask? | ||
| They had those things. | ||
| People had like the hula hoops or they had the noodle hats. | ||
| You know, don't come in my personal space. | ||
| You know, 50 years from now, nobody will believe this happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But again, you know, you go back to the Bernie Sanders phenomenon. | ||
| That's a great meme. | ||
| Oh, the memes just keep on giving. | ||
| You go back to the Bernie Sanders phenomenon, and it was so... | ||
| Honestly, RFK probably could have really pinned him down more so if he wanted to. | ||
| But you realize, and Elizabeth Warren was actually probably worse, as they're sitting here, oh, please don't sue the big pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding! | ||
| They own you! | ||
| They're literally giving you that script! | ||
| I mean, they're reading off big pharma scripts there! | ||
| And what Warren admitted, when she was begging, and she was saying, if he gets in... | ||
| They're all going to go bankrupt. | ||
| It's like, how are they going to go bankrupt? | ||
| They're only going to go bankrupt from being sued, big drug companies, if their product is alive. | ||
| If it's not safe and it's not effective and they've engaged in negligence. | ||
| So she's admitting that she knows their products kill people. | ||
| Their products disable people. | ||
| And I mean, they've guaranteed profit with no risk. | ||
| This has always been insane. | ||
| This is always a bad idea. | ||
| And in any other context, both Bernie and Warren, Would be the lead critics of such a proposal. | ||
| But yet they're the lead advocates because they're bought and paid for by Big Pharma. | ||
| That's who the new Democratic Party is. | ||
| I've been trying to explain to people, think like fascists and communists from the 1930s. | ||
| Because fascists were just a form of communists. | ||
| They're all statists. | ||
| Fascists believed in socialism for the nation. | ||
| The Nazis believed in socialism for the race. | ||
| Commies believed in socialism for everybody. | ||
| But they were all commies at heart, all socialists at heart. | ||
| And that's what they are. | ||
| And that's what the Democratic Party's become. | ||
| It's become a party of the professional class, by the professional class, for the professional class, which means weaponizing government to empower them at the expense of the rest of us. | ||
| And in the process of doing so, they basically become fascist ideologues. | ||
| And they forfeited all of their populist roots. | ||
| Or any populist ideas that ever got them into power in the first place. | ||
| That's how Warren got to the Senate, promising to take on big corporations and protect the consumer. | ||
| And that's who Bernie Sanders has been. | ||
| But as soon as he could smell the White House, he's become bent over Bernie for corporate America, for the big defense industry, for big government, for all of those people. | ||
| No longer anything vaguely resembling the guy who was a big Second Amendment guy 10 years ago in northern Vermont. | ||
| All right, a couple more. | ||
| Things I want to get your opinion on. | ||
| I think Trump is serious about the Panama Canal. | ||
| When he makes that a priority, it probably isn't going to be his top priority quite yet, but I would imagine he's going to move on that relatively soon. | ||
| The president of Panama, Jose Raul Molino, has made a statement. | ||
| Panama says there will be no negotiations with the U.S. over the canal. | ||
| They have been removing all of the... | ||
| Chinese signs that were strewn about the canal. | ||
| So, you know, that's what Trump was talking about. | ||
| What is the approach to this? | ||
| Can Trump make the legal claim that they broke the treaty and move in? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There's two ways he could legally enter. | ||
| First of all, under the treaty, U.S. is the guarantor of the operational security of the canal. | ||
| So on that basis, they can always intervene. | ||
| They can always intervene concerning the canal. | ||
| It's solely to make sure its operational security is maintained. | ||
| And Panama was playing footsie with China, and that's what Trump was really aimed at. | ||
| He was like, better quit playing footsie with China, or that will be our canal, and we'll kick out the Chinese for good. | ||
| The second grounds they can do so is if they are not consistently providing equal access to the U.S., and Trump alleges that is now happening, and that part of what China— I mean, it's clear what China is trying to do with its whole Belt and Road initiative. | ||
| It wants to control essential items of the economy so that nobody can try to change their government at all, externally. | ||
| Because they'll say, look, if you want your airplanes to work, the airstrip we built for you in some country, wherever it is in the world, then you better keep your mouth shut and play ball with what we need in terms of the court of public opinion or if we decide to go into Taiwan. | ||
| And China has huge internal economic problems. | ||
| They have a massive, massive real estate bubble that they basically inflated after the global financial crisis to keep everybody employed and to manipulate their growth rate to look like they were still growing at the same rate they were before when they weren't. | ||
| So they've got a massive bubble that's imploding that could completely take down their entire economy and society and government. | ||
| And they probably want as a backup strategy being able to manipulate global foreign policy for global foreign market access, but also So if they get into real trouble, what do they do? | ||
| Distract their public by going into Taiwan. | ||
| Create a military conflict. | ||
| Hey, you know, Chinese pride is back. | ||
| We're going to take on those Chinese nationalists and conquer the last Western, whatever language they want to use, in order to keep people invested in China's governance structure rather than overthrow them, which would be the normal instinct given how China has so badly mismanaged its housing economy and the economy the last decade within the country. | ||
| And it's just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. | ||
| But President Trump's instincts are correct. | ||
| He's legally entitled to it. | ||
| Same with Greenland. | ||
| Same with Canada. | ||
| He's looking at shipping routes. | ||
| He wants to make sure U.S. has operational security over those shipping routes. | ||
| China's been trying to co-opt those shipping routes so that it could shut down U.S. traffic whenever they wanted next time. | ||
| They plan on engaging in economic warfare, not military warfare, not kinetic warfare. | ||
| That's what China's been building up for, to protect the fact they become the world's factory because they employ slave labor. | ||
| And have undermined manufacturing across Western Europe and the United States and the rest of the world. | ||
| So in order to take that out, Trump is right to be able to focus on protecting the security of our shipping routes. | ||
| And he is legally entitled to go into Panama if he needs to. | ||
| I hope we don't have to. | ||
| But yes, he has legal rights that he could. | ||
| Alright, my final question for you today. | ||
| Do you see a path forward for January 6th defendants to sue the U.S. government? | ||
| It's extremely hard. | ||
| So we've been looking at it with you potentially being the standard bearer for the suit. | ||
| You might have a more robust, easier access to claims than a lot of other defendants. | ||
| Plus, we could bring those claims in the Western District of Texas, which is not as problematic a jurisdiction as the District of Corruption is in the District of Columbia. | ||
| So as a whole, they make it almost impossible to sue the government. | ||
| It's one area where I disagree with Trump. | ||
| Like, Trump has been saying he wants to expand qualified immunity for cops. | ||
| And I get why he's worried about that, all the lefty jurisdictions harassing police officers, etc. | ||
| But qualified immunity is a bad doctrine. | ||
| Nobody should be immune for violating somebody's rights. | ||
| If what they did was lawful, that's their defense. | ||
| That was their defense at the time of the founding of the country. | ||
| But basically, it's getting around all these ridiculous immunity doctrines. | ||
| And if we can find a court that will entertain the challenge to these doctrines, then I believe we're exploring at least. | ||
| Some way to get some legal relief or remedy, at a minimum discovery, into what actually took place at the scale and scope of corruption on January 6th cases involving judges, involving juries, involving grand juries, involving the DA's office, involving the U.S. Attorney's office, because they were all involved and complicit at different levels, in my opinion. | ||
| I think we would document and demonstrate. | ||
| Now, one other option we're looking at is not just suing politicians. | ||
| Not just showing people that may have governmental immunity, but maybe looking at some people who don't have governmental immunity who are complicit. | ||
| Some of the undercover federal agents and sources who were actually there, who were giving false intel and information, who may not be protected by immunity, who helped provoke and instigate any problems or troubles that happened that day, who then gave false testimony against others later on. | ||
| So we were looking at what is there available to get some civil remedy and relief. | ||
| For what happened on January 6th, not only for the people who are victimized by it, but to deter the government from doing it again and other bad actors from doing it again. | ||
| But it's going to be tricky. | ||
| The short answer is it's very, very hard. | ||
| But I take those kind of cases on all the time. | ||
| So we're trying to find a way to do it because I think it needs to happen. | ||
| At a minimum, the worst case scenario, let's say the court shut us down, it highlights the need for legislative reform. | ||
| It highlights the need for that. | ||
| We need legislative remedy long term so that corrupt actors don't get away with it. | ||
| Well, and I guess that's really the second word there is reform, because when I'm talking to a lot of these other defendants, you know, first priority is, hey, what are our legal options here? | ||
| And then it's we need criminal justice reform. | ||
| We need Bureau of Prison reform. | ||
| And, you know, these are these are people that are activists. | ||
| And so I don't think they're going to be, you know, laying down, let's say, Just because the years have passed and they've had their pardons. | ||
| I think people are very serious about these issues and these reform issues, and so we'll see where it goes from here. | ||
| Bob Barnes, at Bob, or excuse me, actually, at Barnes underscore Law on X, vivabarneslaw.locals.com, and of course, 1776lawcenter.com, and really looking forward to you showing people how to take advantage of that FOIA. Absolutely. | ||
| We'll have lots of free information there. | ||
| We're going to be putting up some cool merch. | ||
| We're going to be sending you some merch, Owen, so that you get, but we got some cool people doing cool designs for us. | ||
| 1776 Law Center supports food freedom, financial freedom, medical freedom, political freedom, and it supports cases and causes and clients that don't necessarily have the financial means to do it themselves. | ||
| So we crowdsource it. | ||
| It mostly just covers some of the costs. | ||
| You know, some of the past people that 1776 Law Center has helped cover the cost of, Kyle Rittenhouse, Covington, Brooke Jackson, Robert Kennedy. | ||
| So they're Owen Schroyer. | ||
| So there's some great names on that list. | ||
| So I appreciate everybody who helps, but we're also going to be providing information. | ||
| So let's say you don't have resources, you know, go to 1776 Law Center. | ||
| We're going to keep updating it. | ||
| You're going to get free intel, free information on these other cases. | ||
| You're going to get free intel on how you can use FOIA, how you can use Open Records Act requests, what your legal rights and remedies are, you know, what some of the language that needs to be used if your kid or somebody else has to deal with a vaccine mandate. | ||
| We're going to be providing all that information for free there at 1776 Law Center. | ||
| And I thank everybody who has helped make that a possibility, because otherwise some of these cases wouldn't get the representation they need. | ||
| Yeah, as do I for the same reasons. | ||
| Bob, thank you for your time today. | ||
| Always good to catch up. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Thanks, Owen. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right, we got a couple other things I want to get to here in the short time we have remaining. | ||
| Just some crazy headlines and some developments. | ||
| Like, homeless New York City man makes chilling confession after shoving woman onto moving New York City train. | ||
| I did it because I wanted to. | ||
| You may recall seeing that shocking video. | ||
| I mean, what is going on in New York City? | ||
| People burning people alive and watching. | ||
| Shoving people against moving trains. | ||
| Saying, I did it because I want to. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| No healthy society should ever see this. | ||
| Or this. | ||
| A Georgia healthcare worker. | ||
| I mean, maybe you chalk this one up to social media desperation. | ||
| A Georgia... | ||
| Healthcare worker arrested for twerking over disabled man's head, and I believe there were actually multiple instances of this. | ||
| It's really sick. | ||
| We have it on the screen. | ||
| We blurt out the victims, but it's actually extremely sad seeing this. | ||
| TikToker arrested after going viral for dancing over a disabled person's head. | ||
| Did you really just do it for the social media attention? | ||
| Or is there something else going on here? | ||
| These are not things you see or hear about in a healthy society. | ||
| Some unintentional comedy from the Associated Press talking about the California wildfires. | ||
| Study says climate change made conditions that fed California wildfires more likely and more intense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The climate change. | ||
| What about the arson? | ||
| You know how many times arson was mentioned in this story? | ||
| Care to take a guess? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Not once. | ||
| Wonder how the arson played into that. | ||
| Literally the people lighting the fires. | ||
| And the policies, the water policies, the debris policies, the forest policies. | ||
| No mention of that. | ||
| So the actual things that caused it, the actual things, the policies and the arsonists, no mention. | ||
| Just climate change. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Two men in custody after an elderly man was found tied up and killed in his basement in his Chicago home. | ||
| His sister had to come over and see this for herself, and ultimately he was deceased, George Levin, 63 years old. | ||
| Now, two men have been taken into custody. | ||
| I've heard reports that they were illegals, making me think it was gang activity, but they seem to be Either not committing to that or maybe afraid to say it. | ||
| So I'm not really sure what's going on. | ||
| But that is just a horror story that we will continue to monitor. | ||
| Now, Edward Snowden was brought up quite a bit during the Gabbard hearing today. | ||
| He actually offered a comment when the hearing was over. | ||
| Edward Snowden posted this on his ex-account. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard will be required to disown all prior support for whistleblowers as a condition of confirmation today. | ||
| I encourage her to do so. | ||
| Tell them I harmed national security and the sweet, soft feelings of staff in D.C. That's what passes for the Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| So Snowden understands it. | ||
| He knows what he exposed. | ||
| He knows what he's up against. | ||
| He knows what Gabbard is up against. | ||
| And right now... | ||
| It looks like Gabbard is going to have the toughest path forward. | ||
| Haven't seen too much as far as outside of the rats to stop Patel or RFK Jr. But Gabbard might have another issue. | ||
| So we'll see what Trump wants to do about all this if they try to delay these confirmations because it's getting a little ridiculous. | ||
| They need to be confirmed. | ||
| They need to be confirmed. | ||
| Swiftly and as soon as possible. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're out of time for today. | ||
| We almost got it all. | ||
| I got to be honest. | ||
| We almost got it all. | ||
| We got a couple of video clips left over. | ||
| A couple stories, but we really did a good job. | ||
| Big ups to the crew. | ||
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