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Jan. 10, 2025 - War Room - Owen Shroyer
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California Fire Will Go Down As One of the Worst of All Time; Democrat Policy and Ideology to Blame

The War Room discusses ongoing wildfires in California, suggesting arson or foreign actors may be responsible; criticizes Governor Newsom's response to the fires and argues that Democrat policies have contributed. Los Angeles has suspended 113 firefighters without pay for defying vaccine mandates while facing reports of looting and unaddressed arson incidents. The financial disaster is expected to lead to insurance company failures, potentially causing bank failures as well. A speaker discusses investing in cryptocurrency, highlighting its potential future role but also cautioning about risks and advocating stablecoins backed by tangible assets like gold or silver. Alex Jones shares his weight loss journey through dietary changes, exercise, supplements, promotes flash sales at thealexjonesstore.com with special offers on products such as an off-road Ford Tremor Turbo Diesel vehicle and a free Black InfoWars hat with every order, encouraging VIP membership for exclusive discounts and benefits.

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Despite what you have heard from Caruso, no firefighters have told us that they are running out of water.
Well, firefighters have told me they have no water on this block.
I saw the fire engine pull up this afternoon.
A fire captain had one of his firefighters attach a hose to a hydrant, and that hose didn't fill up, Alex.
And I asked the captain, out of every 10...
Hydrants you attach to today, on average, how many are you getting full water from?
He says little to none.
Super inspired.
She took time out of her already busy schedule to tell us about her vision for the department's future.
One that includes a three-year strategic plan to increase diversity.
People ask me, well, what number are you looking for?
I'm not looking for a number.
It's never enough.
Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now.
She's already looking at ways to change that.
She's quick to point out that doing so has a greater purpose, attracting the best and brightest for the job.
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part of a cohesive team.
The chief also checks another box when it comes to inclusivity and diversity at this department.
She's a proud member of the LGBTQ community.
Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning?
Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars, Madam Mayor?
Have you nothing to say today?
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent.
Are you considering your position?
Madam Mayor, have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster?
owen shroyer
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we will be following up on what may go down as one of the worst, if not the worst, fire disasters in California fire disasters in California history as far as property is concerned.
So far the death toll has been very low.
But the real story here is, yeah, there's fires in California all the time.
The real story here is the...
Criminal negligence and intentional incompetence that led to this.
And I would hope that the residents that suffered from this by the tens of thousands are up in arms about that and demand resignation from the mayor and from the governor.
Because as we laid it out for you yesterday and we've got more of it today, it was Democrat policy and liberal ideology that allowed this to happen.
And it might be even worse now with new evidence.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, January 9th, 2025. This is the InfoWars War Room.
And we are counting down the days.
Until President Trump's inauguration.
10 days, 19 hours, and 53 minutes to be exact.
But my goodness, as we are in this continued no-man's land of a lame duck administration that is actually trying to do as much damage as they possibly can, or...
Create as much of a mess as they possibly can for the incoming Trump administration.
I've had so many people reach out.
I did a couple interviews earlier today.
And they're all saying the same thing.
Something we realized a long time ago.
How can you not look at the fires in California if you're a Democrat voter and say, We have to have a change here.
And even this propaganda campaign that they attempted to blame it on climate change has completely failed.
It has failed.
And they've pretty much just given it up.
They kind of tested the waters and floated it out there and it just fell completely flat.
unidentified
But...
owen shroyer
The diversity agenda, the higher lesbians agenda, the higher women agenda, not clearing the forest agenda, not providing water agenda.
All of that is the story.
Not climate change, nothing else.
It's the Democrat policies and the liberal ideologies.
Now, we laid all of that out for you yesterday.
There's a couple more examples of that here today.
But it's pretty much...
Being widely reported now, we're looking at tens of thousands of residential buildings destroyed, hundreds of commercial buildings destroyed.
It'll probably end up being the most expensive wildfire as far as property is concerned.
So far, the death count has been low.
That's good.
The size and scale of it is obviously not going to be the biggest compared to some of the ones that actually get out in the wilderness and the mountains and the forests.
This thing was ripping through residential areas.
Some of the most expensive property, some of the most expensive houses, beachfront houses, just completely destroyed.
Now, what we witnessed yesterday, hundreds of thousands evacuated.
Now, what we witnessed yesterday really is the...
Evidence that this is likely a situation now where it's either arson or there's something else going on because this is not just a wildfire.
These are fires that are sprouting up in different areas all around town.
And last night, when there wasn't much wind compared to two nights ago, compared to Tuesday when the wind was really bad, Wasn't as bad last night, and we saw fires popping up in other areas and going into infernos.
Some locals are saying, yeah, this is definitely arson.
Now, is it eco-terrorism?
Is it something else?
A foreign actor?
Let's just kind of put this into context real quickly.
What was it, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, you had an illegal immigrant from Guatemala burn a woman alive on a New York subway train.
Lit her on fire, burned her alive and sat there and watched her burn.
And now he comes out with this legal defense in court this week, says, I was so drunk I don't remember.
Well, whether you believe that or not, there are...
Large amounts of people in California, just like in New York, that are completely separated from civilization.
They have no connection to civilization.
They have no connection to society.
And they could be so deranged, out of their minds, bombed out on drugs and other things, that they don't even really have connection to their soul or to humanity.
They're just gone.
So if you don't think for one second, just like some guy will go burn a woman on the subway and watch her burn to death, that some of these deranged bums, homeless, illegal immigrants, whatever, you've probably seen the exact types, won't go into the woods and start a fire for the fun of it?
Absolutely they would.
Now that might be the best case scenario.
All things considered.
Could it be foreign actors?
Could it be eco-terrorists?
We'll never know.
They're never going to give us any answers.
They don't have any answers.
They don't even know.
Gavin Newsom does photo ops.
Mainstream media reporters show up and have their fire jackets tailored.
Not really, but they try with pins.
Literally, they're sitting there concerned about what their fire jacket looks like.
Bass is in a different country on the other side of the planet.
She won't even talk to the media.
When she finally does do a press conference, she fumbles over her words.
She doesn't even know how to say a website.
So, yes, somebody is starting these fires.
you And I would say the odds-on favorite is deranged individuals.
With no connection to civilization, no connection to society, maybe bombed out of their minds, just like the people you see in these videos.
Maybe you walk down the streets, you see them too.
If they'll set a woman on fire on a train, they'll go out in the woods and start a fire, absolutely.
And you don't have all these fires popping up last night, just popping up out of nowhere when the winds have died down, unless somebody is starting them.
So is it coordinated?
Is it just deranged bums?
Somebody started these fires.
And you're just not going to get that story.
And they're going to try to blame climate change, and they're going to try to blame, they're going to say it was a natural disaster.
No.
No.
Absolutely not.
And at the very least, If there was anything natural about it, the Democrats, with their policies, basically put the kindling out there so that this could happen.
And that is what happened.
So they put the kindling out there so that there could be a fire, and then they made sure there wasn't enough water to fight a fire, and then they made sure the actual firefighters were lesbians so they couldn't fight the fire.
And then what are you going to get?
You're going to get the most expensive fire.
In the history of California, likely.
And then what do they do?
What do they do with all of the people that aren't insured or have very little coverage?
What do they do with all that property?
Entire neighborhoods burned to the ground.
Entire beachfront neighborhoods, coastline neighborhoods burned to the ground.
Now, a genius move here from Trump.
Donald Trump calls for Gavin Newsom resignation as California wildfires rage.
One of the best and most beautiful parts of the United States of America is burning down to the ground, its ashes, and Gavin Newsom should resign.
This is all his fault.
That's the quote from Donald Trump.
So, Newsom is already getting destroyed.
Before his 2028 presidential campaign even begins.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Now you could say, well, this is like the first quarter of a ballgame.
Plenty of time to come back.
Okay.
This will haunt his 2028 presidential campaign.
Mark my words.
He is not escaping this.
Especially considering all the ammo that Trump already has in the chamber.
With him calling this out multiple times.
Multiple times.
Which we played for you yesterday.
And now I got this clip of Gavin Newsom getting reamed by a citizen.
Do we have this, guys?
Go ahead.
unidentified
Governor, you got a second?
Governor, I live here, Governor.
That was my daughter's school, Governor.
Please tell me what you're going to do.
I'm not going to hurt him, I promise.
I'm literally talking to the president right now to specifically answer the question of what we can do for you and your daughter.
Can I hear it?
owen shroyer
Can I hear your call?
unidentified
Because I don't believe it.
I'm sorry.
There's literally...
I've tried five times.
That's why I'm walking around to make the call.
Why is the president not taking your call?
Because it's not going through.
Why?
So I have to get self-service.
So let's get it.
Let's get it.
I want to be here when you call the president.
I appreciate it.
I'm doing that right now.
And it's to immediately get reimbursements, individual assistance, and to help you on the devastating failure.
I'm so sorry, especially for your daughter.
I have four kids losing the school.
Everyone who went to school there, they lost their homes.
They lost two homes because they were living in one building in another.
Governor, please tell me, what are you going to do with the president right now?
We're getting the resources to help rebuild.
Why was there no water in the hydrants, Governor?
That's all literally...
Is it going to be different next time?
It has to be.
It has to be.
Of course.
What are you going to do?
To fill the hydrants.
I would fill them up personally, you know that.
I would fill up the hydrants myself.
I understand.
But would you do that?
I would do whatever I can.
But you're not!
Do you know there's water dripping over there, Governor?
There's water coming out there.
You can use it.
I appreciate it.
I'm gonna make the call to address everything I can right now, including making sure people are safe.
Can I have an opportunity to at least tell people you're doing what you're saying you're doing?
Can somebody have a contact?
Can I have your contact information right now?
owen shroyer
This will haunt his entire 2028 presidential campaign.
As much momentum, just because it is 2025, it will haunt him.
And he says, well, it can't happen again.
It happened in 2017. It happened in 2018. You sat in the forest, stood, rather, in the forest with Donald Trump, and he said, we've got to clear this out.
We've got to clear out the brush.
We've got to do the rakes.
And we've got to change the flow of water.
We've got to fill the reservoirs.
We've got to stop dumping into the Pacific Ocean.
We've got to quit worrying about a tiny fish.
We've got to do all this stuff.
He did none of it.
He will get crushed on this issue.
And when all the numbers are crunched, and it turns out to be the most expensive fire in the history of California, it will be right on his lap.
So genius move from Trump making Gavin Newsom own this.
And he is partially responsible.
You've got the local government that's just as responsible.
But the governor certainly should have stepped in and done something, especially since he'd been through this multiple times.
And he'd been warned by President Trump multiple times.
And he did nothing.
So this will not go away.
And it gets into the big issue that we discussed yesterday of do you think Your vote in California is even legitimate.
Do you think it counts?
Do Democrats really win?
I don't know how Democrats can win after this, really.
I mean, this is so bad.
And these are rich liberals that probably vote Democrat whose houses got destroyed.
And even they know who's to blame.
And Newsom wants to run for president in four years?
This is not going away.
View of Los Angeles fire from Topanga State Park goes viral.
Total devastation.
Wildfire breaks out in Hollywood Hills as Los Angeles battles to contain blazes.
Yeah, this is one of the couple fires last night that just broke out spontaneously out of nowhere.
Definitely somebody started that fire.
I'm guessing just homeless, deranged people.
But who knows?
You're not going to find out.
I'll tell you that.
Whole damn thing's burned.
Palisades fire devastates L.A. County, jumps in size as winds batter Southern California.
A crazy, and we got all these videos, you guys can throw them up if you want, but maybe we shouldn't throw this one up.
Weather Channel horrifies viewers by airing gruesome sight among fire debris.
Horrified Weather Channel viewers have claimed to have spotted a charred body in a home destroyed by wildfires in Los Angeles.
Well, they put it on the screen, so, okay, there it is.
Oh, you got a chance.
Go ahead and pull it down, guys.
They censored the image on the Daily Mail story, but yeah, I mean, you look at that, it looks like a skeleton.
Like a human skeleton.
unidentified
And...
owen shroyer
There's a lot of these videos where people are in their house filming.
I don't know what's going through their head if they think it's not going to burn their house down.
Your house is surrounded by a raging inferno.
You need to get out of there.
But for whatever reason, people just don't leave, whether they're trying to protect it or, you know, go figure.
But so that's definitely, I think they've said five dead that they know of.
We had people calling into the show yesterday saying, yeah, I've tried to call my friends and family in that area.
We don't know.
So hopefully the death count is low.
They could be covering that up.
We don't know.
But it is a wild phenomenon to have your entire house surrounded by a raging inferno and then you just go down with it.
But it looks like, I mean, again, unless they had science.
Project skeleton probably would have melted.
That was a horrifying scene.
Let me finish.
Los Angeles incompetent mayor botches emergency website again, lashes out at reporter, claims slashing fire funding, fire department funding had no impact.
Now, this woman is so incompetent, it's unreal.
But she's a woman.
I guess she's a gay woman, too.
I don't know.
So vote for the gay woman.
But see, that's what I'm saying.
These images, this story encapsulates Democrat policy and ideology.
That's what it is.
Your city will be on fire, but at least your mayor is a gay black woman.
Your house just burned to the ground, and you have no insurance, and you have no water, and you have nowhere to go.
You have no shelters because they're filled with illegal immigrants, so there's nothing for you.
They have no answers as far as...
What's going to be done to recuperate your losses, but at least your mayor is a black lesbian.
And at least your fire department has a lot of women in it.
I mean, that's, you know, sleep good at night.
Yeah, you just lost everything.
But you'll sleep good knowing there's a lot of gay women in charge.
And that's the ideology.
Well, here she is.
Listen to this absolute clown.
She can't even...
Get out the website for information.
She just says URL. Listen to this awkward.
She did it twice.
Listen to this, clip three.
unidentified
113 LA city firefighters have been suspended without pay for defying this.
owen shroyer
Okay, hold on.
Okay, my bad.
Yeah, clip four.
We'll go to that.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right now, if you need help, emergency information, resources, and shelter is available.
All of this can be found at URL. Los Angeles together is how we will get through this.
Through the heroicism of our firefighters.
owen shroyer
Fantastic.
Mayor Bass, I just lost everything in the fire because there was no water and the fire department's too busy waving gay flags.
I just lost everything.
Hold on.
Can I hear?
Hey, Mayor Bass, where do I go for help?
What do I do if I need help?
unidentified
Right now, if you need help, emergency information, resources, and shelter is available.
All of this can be found at URL. Oh.
Los Angeles.
owen shroyer
URL. Okay.
At URL. Thank you.
That'll be really great.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of help at URL. She did that twice, by the way, and then she was lashing out at reporters.
Since we kind of misfired that clip anyway, might as well go to it.
So they had to fill a bunch of positions at the fire department because they just fired a bunch of firefighters who didn't want the vaccine.
Clip three.
unidentified
113 LA city firefighters have been suspended without pay for defying the city's vaccine mandate.
In November, firefighters who had not submitted their vaccination status or requested an exemption.
We're informed they would face suspension and termination.
The policy requires city employees to be vaccinated by December 18th.
The fire department says firefighters who continue to resist the mandate will be entered into the process of termination.
owen shroyer
So they had a shortage because they fired the firefighters that wouldn't take the vaccine.
And then you bring in the...
Nice, loving, lesbian fire chief.
And she says, we're going to hire women now.
Great.
So glad.
How do they fight fires?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, you know, it's all about diversity.
And that really is what it's all about.
I mean, Bass poses for photo ops with Kamala Harris and talks about how it's all about strong women.
And women in leadership roles.
It's so great.
Look, we're women.
We're in charge.
Oh, yeah, Kamala Harris.
She was really competent, too.
Yeah, Kamala Harris, Karen Bass.
I mean, you want a strong example of female leadership.
Kamala Harris and Karen Bass.
I mean, they're doing a lot for women in leadership roles, aren't they?
I mean, yeah, that really makes me want more female leaders.
Harris and Bass.
And you know what you're not hearing?
Wealthy L.A. residents hire private security to stop looters ransacking their abandoned homes as wildfires rage.
So there have been reports of looting, not to mention there appears to be arson going on.
Nothing from Newsom.
Nothing from Bass.
Tell me why they haven't had a press conference, a joint press conference, a police chief, a sheriff, anybody, and comes out and says, if you're looting, you will be shot.
If you're caught...
Starting a fire, you will be shot.
You will be arrested.
You are going to jail.
What happens every time, I've heard it in Louisiana, I've heard it in Florida, what happens when a hurricane hits Florida and they have a sheriff coming out on a press conference and the sheriff comes out and he says, We're taking looting seriously.
We have our eyes peeled.
And if we catch anybody looting, we're going to shoot your ass.
You're getting shot.
unidentified
You might die.
owen shroyer
But in California, oh no.
They're starting fires in the woods.
They're looting these houses because they're all abandoned with the evacuation orders.
And nothing from Newsom, nothing from Bass.
They're doing nothing to discourage that.
No strong words trying to stop anybody from burning and looting, but I guess they're into that.
But I got all these local reports and people putting statements like this out.
Brian Norgard posts a photo from his house.
He says, my neighbor saw...
A small fire start at 535 above our house in Hollywood Hills on the Runyon Canyon hiking trail.
Hiking trail?
Yeah.
Homeless.
Deranged bums.
I asked him what he thought of it in the moment.
Arson.
There's no power lines up there.
Someone started it intentionally.
Nothing from the Democrats in Los Angeles.
Nothing on the looting.
Nothing on the arson.
Nothing.
But they're pretty gay, though.
So that's good.
Joining me in studio is Kirk Elliott.
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I was kind of just introducing what we were going to talk about, but you bring up a good point.
And this is such a disaster in California.
The financial disaster, not just from the individuals that maybe lost everything and don't have any way to recoup it.
They don't have the insurance to cover it all.
They don't have millions of dollars that they can just take a loss on a piece of property like that.
That's one side.
California already runs at a massive deficit.
They don't have any money.
They rely on money from the Fed.
Now they're going to need more money than ever from the Fed.
Trump doesn't want to give it to them.
He's not going to let the victims of this fire probably go without aid.
But, I mean, how do you even quantify how bad the financial situation in California is?
kirk elliott
Well, I think we're just seeing the beginning of it.
We have to ask ourselves, who's going to pay for this, right?
Well, so many of the insurance companies canceled these house coverages like last year.
owen shroyer
Yeah, thousands of them.
kirk elliott
Thousands of them.
So these people don't have anything.
Now, the insurance companies that are left, they have to use their cash holdings to actually pay the claims, right?
Well, where do they have that cash?
They have it in the banks.
So why do banks fail?
Because you have more withdrawals.
Going out, then you have deposits going in.
So I think you're going to probably see this isn't going to be limited to just insurance companies that are probably going to fail because of this.
I mean, it's already multi-billion dollar losses, right?
But I think the domino effect is you're going to see banks fail because of this.
And so Silicon Valley Bank, you know, we went through all of that last year.
owen shroyer
Right.
It's already in California happening.
kirk elliott
Yeah, banks are already undercapitalized.
FDIC only has 1.17% of all deposits covered, as is.
And so now, these West Coast-type banks that are going to probably be hit really hard as insurance companies deplete them of cash, I think you could see bank failures coming from a stinking fire because they didn't have water in the fire hydrants.
I mean, for crying out loud.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, and they didn't...
kirk elliott
And other things.
owen shroyer
Yeah, all the different things that went into that.
kirk elliott
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Well, and I don't see how that's avoidable, really, because even if Newsom was able to secure some federal aid here, that's not going to bail out.
I mean, we're talking, what, are they going to do a bank bailout, an insurance company bailout?
I don't see that.
The aid will go directly to the individuals, especially if it's under Trump.
So Newsom, I mean, he might be getting on his knees and going to the White House soon or, you know, getting on his knees and begging Joe Biden.
Like, look, we got 10 days, Joe.
If you don't bail us out, we're cooked.
Like, my state's going to go into a deficit that's going to be un...
We won't be able to recover from it.
So what do they do?
Is it even avoidable at this point?
kirk elliott
I mean, California might just turn into an economic desert.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't think they can pull out of it.
So states don't have the luxury that the federal government has.
When the federal government runs out of money, they have a printing press.
States don't have a printing press.
So if they don't get federal funding, what are they going to do?
They're going to raise taxes.
That's how they raise their money.
But they can't.
California is already the most taxed state in the country.
People can't afford it.
They're leaving.
There's a mass exodus out of California because of that.
I don't know how they can recover from this.
I really don't.
owen shroyer
Yeah, this is really going to go down.
I think the physical damage we've seen is kind of what we're seeing right now, and it's the first phase of this.
But then we're going to see, okay, the financial damage at the individual level is going to be devastating for thousands.
And then the state is going to sit here and say, we got such a crisis on our hands.
The insurance companies, the banks, this is a bad situation waiting to happen.
And again...
And it doesn't matter which state you're in, because this could affect banks nationally.
And that's why, I mean, a lot of people don't keep money in the bank.
I mean, yeah, you want to have some money in the bank.
You want to be able to use your card for whatever.
But you want to get out.
You want to get into precious metals, property, whatever.
KEPM.com slash gold.
They will help take care of you if you want to get your money out of this banking situation that is basically just a powder keg at this point.
We only got one segment with you because I know you got to jump.
What do you make of the terrorists?
Because here's the debate that I'm having with some people, and I'm somebody that looks for consistency.
So whenever we see Democrats that want to attack Trump, and they come out and say, it's tax cuts for the rich.
It's tax cuts for the rich.
Okay, well, tax cuts for the rich actually help everybody else.
unidentified
Right.
owen shroyer
Because then, you know, it's...
There is no trickle-down economic theory.
It's all made up.
But I mean, essentially, I guess you could claim that was it.
When the rich pay less in taxes, they keep more money into the economy instead of just hoarding it to themselves.
And then they come out and they say, oh my gosh, Trump's tariffs are going to raise prices.
Whoa!
Hold on.
You just said that the tax cuts were going to lower prices.
Now you're saying tariffs are going to raise prices.
So there is no logical consistency there.
And it's, you know, maybe it's kind of a false equivalency, but the standard is still the same.
Do you think Trump's tariffs would be affected?
I think the goal is to just bring manufacturing back.
But as far as tariffs, they're applied day one.
He starts actually doing this stuff.
What do you think it means?
kirk elliott
I think this is really the only solution that can get America out of the debt spiral that we're in.
And this isn't Trump's idea.
This is the founding father's idea, right?
We didn't have...
Income taxes in America until, I don't know, 100, 200 years after we became a country, right?
Before that, it was just tariffs.
And what is that?
That's tax on foreign goods, which will make them more expensive.
So the left isn't necessarily lying when they say the tariffs are going to increase prices.
But people aren't that stupid to say, well, if Chinese goods are 60 to 100% more, I'm going to keep buying them.
No.
They're going to start buying the lower cost equivalent, which would be American goods.
Right, so not all inflation is bad.
This is where, under Biden, the inflation was bad.
Why?
Because unemployment was sky high, wages were coming down, and they would print money like there's no tomorrow to try to provide every stimulus under the sun, and that was inflationary.
So there was this chasm, right?
There was this increasing prices because they were printing money, lowering wages, that gap made it so most Americans could hardly afford to survive.
Under Trump, the tariffs on any imported goods will make things more expensive.
But when people start shifting their spending habits and buying American, as will the rest of the world, right?
Because this is going to happen when, and jobs always follow manufacturing.
So if people aren't buying Chinese goods, Mexican goods, whatever, they're going to start buying American.
We're going to create more jobs, more people have money to spend.
The more money they spend, the more profitable it becomes.
Sales tax revenues increase everything, right?
So this is where the left is dead dog wrong in saying that tariffs are going to be harmful to the lower class and middle class America.
No.
People are going to change their spending habits and it's going to create the biggest economic boom that this country has ever seen.
Especially if Trump is effectively successful.
And implementing tariffs and having foreign countries pay for our stuff.
Really, that's what that's going to do.
They're going to pay for our stimulus.
They'll pay for our Department of Defense.
They'll pay for all of our entitlements, not taxpayers.
So the second piece of that is him eliminating personal income taxes, which he's talked about a bunch.
So you get both those things going, and I think America can be incredibly successful.
But I think you need both of those in tandem with each other to really make a lasting impact that will put America back in the driver's seat.
Economically, we could be a manufacturing superpower again, not China.
But here's where there's going to be political retribution from this.
What's good for America is not going to be good for the rest of the world.
If Americans aren't buying Chinese goods because they're too expensive, well, China's going to lose money.
So how could they retaliate?
So there's a few different ways.
We've already heard Xi say, well, we'll slap tariffs on American goods coming into China.
It's like, so?
I mean, we hardly send them anything anyways.
We take theirs.
So that's a moot point.
But they could dump U.S. Treasuries on the open market.
They still have a trillion dollars worth of them, which would devalue the dollar as they flood the market with U.S. Treasuries.
That could be in itself Well, a weakened dollar means it's devalued.
Other currencies are going to be relatively stronger.
It will increase our exports to the rest of the world by them retaliating that way.
So I don't think that this policy that Trump has is so brilliantly Well, and China, of course, has its own problems with inflation and spending as well.
owen shroyer
I think I see what Trump is doing, too, with the larger picture, trying to secure the trade routes in the Panama Canal.
I think that that's a lot to do with this Greenland rhetoric, too.
He wants to have some ability to control trade through that area, that region.
And I think...
The way Trump sees it is he says, yeah, we might take a little hit initially with the tariffs.
There's probably going to be a little pain there.
It'll be momentary.
I mean, the pressure applied for the media is obviously they're going to make it like, you know, the world is ending.
They'll call it a crash probably.
kirk elliott
Right.
owen shroyer
You know, they ignore all the inflation under Biden, but, you know, the little bit under Trump, they'll make it like it's the end of the world.
But eventually, it's like you said, the strategy is we have to be the manufacturing hub again.
We have to produce goods.
We have to manufacture goods.
And you have to have a financial incentive for companies to do that.
China's done that.
That's what China has done so brilliantly, and they have the cheap labor to pull it off.
But that's what they've done, is they've created the financial incentive for manufacturing companies to go there and produce their products there.
We have to create that incentive, and then we can dominate in that sector.
And that's huge for the middle class.
That's huge for the middle class.
We had the biggest middle class in the world, probably.
When we were manufacturing goods, we can bring that back.
And I think that that's kind of Trump's larger picture.
It's kind of use these different economic levers to just bring manufacturing back, bring made in America back, boost the middle class again.
And yeah, there's going to be a little pain through that.
But when you get to the other side of it, you're going to be much stronger.
kirk elliott
No, absolutely.
That's right.
This isn't going to be an easy road, but I do think Trump is going to be incredibly successful with it.
Because, look, remember when they dumped COVID on us?
They dumped that on Trump.
They are not going to surrender.
owen shroyer
They may just come out right after he's inaugurated and say, pandemic.
kirk elliott
Yeah, well, whenever the system fails, whoever is in charge at that point gets the blame, right?
So all of these things happening, even this fire that could cause banks to fail.
You've got now pandemics and bird flu coming again.
Trump didn't have anything to do with any of this.
But if he's in charge when the system kind of goes down, he will get the blame for it.
I think that's their plan.
They're evil.
He's fighting evil.
And just because he's going to do things great, he's going to make America great again, he is going to bring manufacturing back, doesn't mean...
That the globalists are just going to surrender.
They will not.
This battle is going to go on for a while.
owen shroyer
Let me ask you a question.
And there's an ongoing debate, and I don't think it's a if or or situation, but people have a preference.
The trend now, especially for younger people, millennials and down, it's all about crypto.
It's all about, oh, I'm going to invest in crypto, and some of it, to me, is kind of like the stock market.
They're looking for a big hit, get in, get out, try to get a little profit off of it every time, ride the waves, whatever.
But also, there does seem to be this belief, and there does seem to be this promotion of crypto as the future, create generational wealth, and all this other stuff.
I think it's highly volatile.
I think it's highly risky.
I'm not against it, but...
You don't really hear young people talking about precious metals or really any hard assets at all.
They're not even in the asset column outside of their crypto.
Really, they don't have any assets, but they're going all in on that.
So what do you have more confidence in?
Because to me, I don't even really think it's up for debate.
I mean, again, I don't think it's an if or or.
I just think that there's a much higher confidence value in precious metals to get your money out of a bank that's volatile instead of putting it into crypto that's also volatile.
kirk elliott
Well, it depends on, like, you're absolutely right.
Like, most of my clients are 55-plus.
They wouldn't touch crypto with a thousand-foot pole.
They don't trust it.
They don't know how to set up a digital wallet, blah, blah, blah.
Where most young people aren't going to go into gold and silver because they are technologically adept, right?
So Trump, you know, is in favor of crypto.
You can see by some of the cabinet positions he's putting there, he's having crypto experts help.
Because what is coming, I don't think we're going to have paper money two years from now.
I think it's going to be gone.
I think we are going digital money across the board.
owen shroyer
Well, they're definitely pushing that.
kirk elliott
They're pushing it.
owen shroyer
A lot of restaurants, venues, whatever, stadiums, they don't even take cash anymore.
It's card only.
kirk elliott
Yeah, it's card only.
And with Trump putting these people in key places, even bringing Elon Musk in, right?
It's like, what?
What is he actually?
Is this bad?
Does he want central bank digital currency?
No, he doesn't.
Central bank digital currency is centralized crypto.
Like, Bitcoin is decentralized blockchain, right?
So, when I look at gold and silver and crypto, they're very similar in philosophy, right?
Why do people invest in crypto?
Because they view that it's safe, decentralized blockchain, and you get growth.
Why do people invest in gold and silver?
Because it's private.
And you get growth from it.
Philosophically, they're the same, but fundamentally, they're completely different.
One's digital, one's tangible.
But what Trump is doing, I think, is setting up an alternative currency-type system to get away from central banking as we know it, get away from fiat money creation by some of the stuff he said.
And just look at, like...
Recently, I've got some news articles here.
JPMorgan Chase now uses XRP for mortgage and credit card payments.
American Express using XRP for payment processing.
Bank of America using XRP for internal payments.
owen shroyer
And that's a crypto coin.
kirk elliott
That's a crypto.
It's a cross-payment platform.
So, like right now, if we wanted to send money from bank to bank, you'd do a wire.
It costs like $40, and it takes a couple hours for that to get done.
XRP is a way to do it where it's basically free and it happens instantaneously.
But what this signifies is moving away from central banking as we know it, away from fiat-based paper money.
And what I think Trump is doing by promoting this, he's not saying, I want central bank digital currency and I want all the digital money.
He's saying there is a better way to do it.
Now, there is a lot of volatility there, right?
But what I see coming down the road, Would be maybe a combination of the two.
Like, decentralized blockchain crypto that's a stablecoin that has gold backing to it.
Now, you've kind of got the best of both worlds.
If the world is going digital anyways, well, what if you add tangible backing to it, right?
Which is, you can do that on anything.
You could back it with gold.
You could back it with silver.
You could back it with real estate.
You could do a lot of things through some of these smart contracts, right?
But this is the way that the world is going now.
Centralized control.
CBDCs are literally like the mark of the beast.
It's complete people control.
Ideologically based, social credit scores.
owen shroyer
Can only access it if you're a good little boy.
kirk elliott
Or actually, if you're a bad little boy.
owen shroyer
Well, have you had your vaccine?
kirk elliott
You have to agree with them.
owen shroyer
How much meat did you consume?
kirk elliott
That's right.
owen shroyer
Oh, you consumed 10 ounces of meat this week?
Sorry, you can't access.
You're punished.
kirk elliott
So here's where there's options, right?
So young people might want to say, yeah, I like this decentralized cryptocurrency type concept.
Get out of the system, right?
But most people say, that's too hard.
How about just gold or silver?
It's tangible.
It's portable.
You can keep it with you.
I understand that.
So there's options, right?
I'm not saying that gold and silver are the only options.
It's a very easy option that's time-tested since the beginning of time.
But we are moving into a digital world.
But there's danger in that, right?
The danger would be something as simple as, or horrible, It's like the hurricane in Florida and in North Carolina, right?
There was no power for 10 days.
People couldn't access their ATMs.
If all your money is digital, you don't get it, right?
You can't get it.
Something as simple as that.
We're not even talking about something horrible like an EMP blast.
We're just talking about power disruption that you might not be able to access your money, which is why these alternatives like gold and silver that's...
Portable, that's tangible, that's real, that always has value.
It can never go to zero because it's a thing.
Things don't go to zero.
So I think, and when you add in tariffs like what you had asked about, COMEX, which is where gold and silver is physically stored globally, there's 140 refineries that can deliver into COMEX globally.
45 of those are going to be from tariff-impacted nations.
So let's say silver is $30 an ounce.
And it's coming from Mexico that's going to have a 20% tariff.
Well, 20% and $30, that means to buy silver would be $36 because of the tariff.
So even if spot price stayed the same and there's a tariff on it, you can sell into that higher price because it's a tariff-impacted good.
This is where tariffs, the inflation on that of things that we buy, if you're allocated properly in your investment, you get to take advantage of that too.
And you don't need to be...
A hedge fund or an international money center bank to actually participate in that.
You can do it like you and I could.
I mean, our minimum when you buy physical silver is $500.
Start taking advantage of some of these trends because we know what we think we know, what the world is going to look like under Trump.
He's already having an impact, Owen.
This is why I think Trudeau is out in Canada.
Right?
It's because tariffs, and Trudeau is like one of the worst political leaders in the history of the world.
I mean, he's bad.
Freedom of speech went out the door.
Freedom of religion went out the door.
The economy stunk in Canada.
Now when you have tariffs being imposed, it's like the people said, out.
We don't want you.
Right?
So Trump is having an impact before he even steps into the White House again.
Which is why I think a lot of this stuff is going to be very successful.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and of course, if you can get in in that short window of time before this starts to hit, you'll be very happy.
You'll be very proud of yourself.
You know, the one other thing, too, because I got this AI story I'm going to cover coming up.
I don't think we fully comprehend what AI could potentially be capable of if it would even be possible for it to get some semblance of sentiency, right?
I mean, what would stop AI from just going out and stealing all the cryptocurrency for itself?
I mean, if it's stored digitally, as long as, you know, it's theoretical, but I'm just saying.
kirk elliott
I mean, that's the danger.
Anything that's digital, like, when you look back at when the Russia-Ukraine conflict started, if you have a centralized exchange, like Coinbase, where people would hold their crypto, if you had an IP address that was from Russia, they shut you off.
You couldn't access your crypto.
So you have to have like a decentralized cold storage wallet, you know, which a lot of people aren't going to know what to do or how to do that, right?
owen shroyer
But people are like a freezer?
kirk elliott
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, there's a learning curve that people have to have.
It can be safe, but most people just have centralized exchanges, which to me, you don't control it that way.
The exchange does.
It's no different than anything else that you can shut off with the flip of a switch.
owen shroyer
Now, do you actually hold the physical precious metals for people?
Will you ship it to their house?
Can they get it for themselves?
kirk elliott
Yeah, so numerous options.
If you have an IRA, it has to be stored.
So it would have to be in the depository.
Outside of an IRA, you could take delivery of it at home or store it at the depository.
Everybody's different.
Some people say, you don't know the neighborhood I live in.
Or look at what's happening with all the fires.
I don't want anything on me.
So I'm going to store it.
And some people say, I don't trust anybody with anything.
I'm keeping it on me, right?
So any one of those is an option, and we can help people navigate through that.
It's really super easy.
It's what we do every single day.
owen shroyer
Wonderful.
KEPM.com slash gold website there on the bottom of the screen.
Or give them a call, 720-605-3900.
Well, I know you're about to jet, but what are you looking for next?
What is on the horizon for you?
kirk elliott
You know, I think this is one of the most dangerous couple of weeks in America because I think the neocons are scared to death of what's going to happen when Trump takes office.
I think other countries are scared once he starts implementing tariffs, and it is going to impact their economy.
Moving forward, I'm really excited about what Trump is going to do to change the economic landscape of America, the political landscape, regain some of our freedoms that the enemy has stolen.
But yeah, when it comes to investing, we have to be wise.
And when you see the landscape changing, you have to adapt with it.
And that's why I love gold and silver, physical gold and silver, because it's timeless and it's solid.
And it's stable, and it's real, and you can have it on you.
owen shroyer
That's Kirk Elliott.
Thank you for your time.
Safe travels.
kirk elliott
Thank you so much.
unidentified
One of the things that I have observed as an attorney who practiced, who was a trial attorney for 34 years, is that Judge Merchant is making such blatant, blatant reversible errors.
He absolutely knows that a conviction in this case, it will be reversed on appeal.
And it's as though he's attempting to do that because he knows that no such appeal would actually take place prior to November, yet he would have a conviction on the books, which is the classic, and I think in this case, exposes the way in which they are using lawfare against President Trump.
I have never seen a judge make the kind of errors that this judge has made in this case before.
And I think he recognizes that a conviction, it would be overturned on appeal.
That is what our criminal, what our justice system has turned into because of the lawfare being waged by the Democrats.
It has to end.
I need to call this out.
We, collectively, prosecutors, are pushing the boundaries of due process here.
The general back and forth in the courtroom today was the defense lawyers.
Defense lawyers saying, Your Honor, Please, tell the jury specifically what the other crime is, right?
Prosecutors have to prove falsified records for another crime.
Defensors were begging him.
They have to know what the other crime is.
And prosecutors were saying, no, let's keep it very vague and general.
It's a bizarro world.
I know that there is some aggressive reading of the New York statute that says, well, the jury doesn't really have to know what the other crime is.
But to me, that suggests that the DA's office is hellbent on getting the conviction now and worry about the fallout.
jon bowne
In a corrupt New York courtroom, Justice Merchant will deliver on January 10th what amounts to a judicial shrug, unconditional discharge, they're calling it.
No jail time, no probation, not even a fine, just a headline.
After the massive 2016 porn star hush money case rolled across the lower thirds of the Mockingbird media, increasing in intensity into the 2024 election cycle.
The 34 felony counts essentially adding up to a roller coaster ride all the way to January 10th, 2025. When Justice Merchant will...
Perform his judicial tap dance and we'll all pretend this isn't completely bullshit and bat insane.
bill maher
Say it's not a Me Too case.
lauren boebert
It is not a Me Too case.
unidentified
I mean, I wasn't assaulted.
I wasn't attacked or raped or coerced or blackmailed.
They tried to shove me in the Me Too box to further their own agenda.
And first of all, I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth and I'm not a victim in that regard.
bill maher
That's not what she's saying now.
She's talking about he was bigger and blocking the way.
It's all the Me Too buzzwords.
She said there was a power imbalance of power for sure.
My hands were shaking so hard.
She said she blacked out.
unidentified
And Mr. Trustee, I think that you testified that in all of your years of experience, you've never seen a circumstance where a defendant had a gag order imposed against them.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
And would it be fair to say that while such an order is intended to guarantee a defendant's Sixth Amendment right, it also at certain times could raise First Amendment issues?
It does.
Okay.
In Bragg's political persecution of Donald Trump, Judge Merchant instituted an unconstitutional gag order against the defendant, President Trump.
Yet Judge Merchant has levied no such order against any of the other trial participants like Michael Cohen, who continue to publicly attack Mr. Trump.
Mr. Hamilton, is the gag order issued by Judge Merchant a significant departure from the normal order of business?
And does it reveal the First and Sixth Amendment tensions which underlie this case?
nick sortor
It most certainly does.
jon bowne
Of course, now incoming FBI Director Cash Patel can get to the bottom of allegations regarding Judge Juan Merchan's daughter, Lauren Merchan, who reportedly received up to $93 million in donations from the Democrat Party over the course of the Trump trial, allegedly including over $1 million from Hakeem Jeffries.
unidentified
Significantly profited from this case.
To the tune, actually, of $93 million raised for her Democrat clients.
Clients that include a member of this committee, Representative Goldman, I should point out and put on the record.
But also, Authentic Campaigns, of which Lauren Mershan, the daughter of the judge, she runs this firm, Authentic Campaigns.
And was paid nearly $12 million for her work this cycle for her Democratic clients.
owen shroyer
Trump makes his final stand in criminal cases as inauguration nears.
Trump pushes back to block Smith's report entirely.
So Trump is supposed to make an appearance.
It can be virtual or in the courtroom.
I'm anticipating it will be virtual.
Trump to make an appearance.
In Judge Merchant's courtroom, the Democrat family paid operative.
And then he's got Smith in Florida trying to push this report out to the public, which is completely unnecessary.
And the judge is blocking it.
Smith just keeps coming.
Who knows?
Maybe he'll just do it.
But it looks like the reason why he wants to do it, because now what's being reported is that It implicates members of Trump's next administration that are waiting for confirmation.
And so I think what Smith is trying to do is to get this thing into the public and it'll have some bad stuff in there.
Maybe it's real, maybe it's made up, but there'll be some stuff in there that they want to bring up in the confirmation hearings and it'll probably always lead back to Trump.
But it looks like that's what Smith is really trying to do is get...
These other individuals that are listed in his report, even though the whole case is completely illegitimate, he himself is illegitimate as the prosecutor.
So a couple big legal battles as Trump just 10 days and some change away from inauguration.
Meanwhile, you had Jimmy Carter's funeral.
With all the presidents lined up, everybody there.
And would you be surprised to hear that Joe Biden fell asleep?
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Joe Biden took a little nap.
Took a little nappy.
A little nappy time for Joe.
And, you know, there's the old saying, sleep like a baby.
I wish I could sleep like Biden.
I mean, this guy just, this guy sleeps like a pro.
He could probably sleep in the middle of a hurricane.
So there he is sleeping at Jimmy Carter's funeral.
You know, there were some interesting moments between Trump and Obama and Pence and some others at the funeral.
Not quite like George H.W. Bush's funeral with the famous envelopes, the big mystery behind that.
But he seemed to be buddy-buddy with Obama as Joe Biden was napping behind them all.
So you got that going on.
And then Hunter Biden's Malibu mansion that apparently he owed a bunch of money on.
That's what the owner was coming out and saying.
Oh yeah, there's old Joe.
Don't you wish you could sleep like Joe?
Don't you wish you could just crash out like Joe and just get a nice rest whenever you need it just to recharge the old batteries?
I don't know about you.
I've been struggling to sleep these last couple nights and I don't know if it's just the fires raging or just, I don't know.
I wish I could sleep like Joe Biden.
Man.
Even when the cameras are all on him, he doesn't give a damn.
He knocks right out.
So Hunter Biden's Malibu home burned to the ground by the fire.
Just completely gone.
Like many of the others.
The footage coming out as people are driving by in the aftermath is just crazy.
It is truly wild.
There's some of it right there on the screen.
But they are dying down.
They are starting to get...
I mean, I don't even think you could say it under control, but there's nothing left to be burned.
But here we go.
Here we go.
In 2023, Los Angeles created a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Bureau.
And promoted black lesbian to weed out bigoted firefighters on the force.
Of course, we all know what that means.
We are sick of straight white men.
The leader of this bureau, Assistant Chief Christine Larson, makes...
$400,000 a year leading the Bureau.
Must be nice.
Must be nice.
And then you got this lady, overpaid bureaucrat responsible for filling up fire hydrants in L.A. County, rakes in $750,000 per year and is the city's highest paid employee!
But she can't even Make sure that there's water for the fire hydrants.
Oh, man.
We have this little cold spell that just came through Texas.
It was snowing in Dallas today.
I think they got an inch or so of snow.
We didn't get any snow, but we had a lot of precipitation.
It's probably like mid-30s here, so it's cold.
We got a little cold spell, and I mean, my goodness.
I'm getting emails from energy.
I'm getting emails, you know, all these different emails.
City and, you know, your neighborhood email chain.
Freeze coming.
Make sure you have water running.
You know, all this other stuff.
But it's like, okay, so probably very small risk, but everybody's freaking out in Austin.
You know, keep your pipes running.
Do this.
Do that.
Are you prepared for the freeze?
It's not even freezing, but people are making preparations.
But then they know, hey, this could be a disaster, wildfire coming.
They don't make sure to fill up the reservoirs.
They don't make sure that there's water available for the hydrants.
They don't make sure that all the brush is raked up to stop it.
They're actually now going out in Topanga Canyon and cutting fire breaks.
They were doing it last night.
Why didn't you do that three days ago?
Four days ago?
Four years ago?
So it's like tiny little risk factor of a freeze in Austin, and I'm getting 30 emails and everybody's making preparations.
Huge risk factor of a massive fire in California, which they have, and they don't do anything.
They don't make any preparations, apparently.
They don't know what to do.
But they have plenty of women and lesbians in the biggest, most highest paid positions there.
And boy, that didn't work out.
Which is too bad.
And I don't remember how my producer Scott was putting it before the show.
But it was like, when you do this and you hire somebody in the name of diversity, equity, and inclusion, then any time they fail, it's always going to fall back on that.
And that's absolutely true.
So now it's, oh yeah, well, they hired you because you're gay and you weren't.
You weren't ready for the job.
They hired you because you were black.
They hired you because you were a woman.
They hired you because of this, that, or the other thing.
And then you failed miserably.
Well, that's because you're a DIE hire.
So they set themselves up for this.
And then they say, we gotta have more women in charge.
And then your city literally burns to the ground.
Of course, that doesn't mean that women are inherently incompetent.
It's really just liberals at the end of the day.
That's really all it is, folks.
It's really not about whether you're gay or not.
It's not about whether you're black.
It's not about whether you're a woman.
It has nothing to do with it.
It's all about being a far-left liberal.
That's what it's about.
If you're a black man and you show up, you're a big Trump supporter, they're not going to hire you.
You're a gay Trump supporter, you're a lesbian in a Trump hat, they're not going to hire you.
So even that on its face is a lie.
They're just dipping into this pool of liberals and claiming they're doing it because they're just such social justice warriors.
And they just care so much about the forgotten man or woman or gay or lesbian or whatever identity they put on it.
And then the city literally burns to the ground.
And they don't even care.
And even the first ever lesbian fire chief...
Was requesting funds, saying how they were out of funds.
This was just, this was, folks, this was not even a month ago.
Or I guess it was exactly a month ago.
LA Fire Chief Kristen Crowley, first gay, do we have to put that qualifier?
First lesbian female Fire Chief Kristen Crowley warned first lesbian female Mayor Karen Bass last month The $17-plus million she cut from the department's budget severely limited the department's capacity to prepare for, train for, and respond to large-scale emergencies, including wildfires.
And there's the document written on December 4th, received on the 17th.
Saying, you cut our funding and now we're ill-prepared.
So why hasn't Mayor Bass resigned yet?
Why hasn't she resigned yet?
Now, I want you to look at this.
This is why the liberal mind is completely broken.
And they are no longer to be taken seriously.
The liberal viewpoints and ideologies have failed miserably.
And they can't even stand on their own weight anymore.
And this is a perfect example.
Matt Walsh, big conservative documentary filmmaker, puts out a tweet, or a post, an ex-post.
He says, Los Angeles deliberately set out to exclude white men from becoming firefighters, and now they don't have enough firefighters to prevent their city from burning to the ground.
DEI is a cancer that destroys everything it touches.
Okay.
I think we would all probably agree with that.
Well, one Jameel Hill, who is probably a diversity hire over there at ESPN, she responds and she says, you are a miserable F. You are a miserable F. But wait a second.
Where's the argument?
Where's the denial of facts here?
This is where the left is at.
They can't debate.
The facts.
They can't debate their viewpoints.
They can't stand for their viewpoints, their ideologies, because they failed.
So they just say F you.
They just attack you.
They just insult you.
Here's the headline.
NPR. June 2023. Firefighting is mostly white and male.
A California program aims to change that.
So there it is.
unidentified
That's exactly what happened.
owen shroyer
So they do this, and the liberals celebrate it.
It's all liberal ideology, and they say, too many straight white men, so we're going to create programs to eliminate them from the picture.
We'll call it diversity, equity, and inclusion, and we will get all these white men out of the way, and we'll replace them with anything except a white man.
And then you point that out, and they just say, well, F you.
So, hey, we're going to stop hiring white men.
City burns to the ground.
Hey, remember, you stopped hiring white men.
Now your city burned to the ground.
Well, F you!
Good Lord.
unidentified
Oh!
owen shroyer
Isn't this so California?
You had a meter maid.
You had a meter maid driving around issuing parking tickets.
You wouldn't believe it unless I showed it to you.
It's clip 15, and it is a meter made, you can actually see the smoke and the smolder behind there in the background, and they're issuing parking tickets.
If that ain't California, I don't know what is.
So, city burning to the ground, and you're still getting a parking ticket from a meter made in a golf cart.
In fact, it's not even a golf cart.
It's only got three wheels, so I don't know what.
It's a tricycle.
It's probably, hey, well, that might be a lesbian meter made, so let's be careful here.
It's okay if it was a lesbian that gave it to you.
If it was a white man, it would be a problem.
But the lesbians are out on their tricycles giving parking tickets while the city burns to the ground literally behind them, right behind them.
You can see the smoke.
Billowing up from the fire.
I don't know what...
Is there something new here, guys, that you're showing me on the screen?
Is that something new that I need to see?
Or is that just a live shot?
So, we've got some other images here that are just stunning.
We showed you how they're doing fire break.
They were cutting for fire breaks last night in Topanga County.
But some of these images, some of these videos of the aftermath is just stunning.
We've got that drone shot that goes over the neighborhood that's just been completely wiped out.
You've got people, I mean, that is so dystopic.
You've got people that just, I mean, holy smokes, man.
Every single house burned to the ground.
unidentified
To the ground.
owen shroyer
Rubble stands.
Where there was once an entire community.
You've got these other videos where they're just driving through the scenes in the aftermath as the fire still rages.
You've got these scenes from Malibu.
There's another one that's just incredible.
The beach.
The beach houses in Malibu, all completely gone on one beachfront aisle.
Just all gone.
Just gone.
And then you got the Weather Channel going around filming and a skeleton.
What appears to be a skeleton that got scorched in a house fire catches in their feet.
Oh, man.
And oh, the irony of Karen Bass, who was attacking Ted Cruz for going to Mexico during the pandemic because I guess he just wanted to get out of Texas or get away from the mandates or, I don't know, wanted to go on a vacation with his kids.
Karen Bass was scolding him for that, and then she was in Africa when her city was burning to the ground.
So that's ironic.
The irony is not lost on us here.
Here's some other commentary from locals, from one Sarah Foster.
But is this going to be the attitude of California finally?
Are you going to live in a Democrat hellhole forever?
We pay the highest taxes in California.
Our fire hydrants were empty.
Our vegetation was overgrown.
Brush not cleared.
Our reservoirs were emptied by our governor because tribal leaders wanted to save a fish.
Our fire department budget was cut by our mayor.
But thank God drug addicts are getting their drug kits.
Mayor Bass, Gavin Newsom, resign.
Your far-left policies have ruined our state and also our party.
So that's a Democrat saying that.
It's not your party anymore, hon, in case you haven't noticed.
They couldn't care less about you.
They just let your city burn.
Then there's Anna Kasparian.
California, especially Los Angeles.
This is the Young Turks host, by the way.
California, especially Los Angeles, is controlled by Democrats.
They are responsible.
No more passing the buck.
Our mayor, who was in Ghana as the fires exploded in our city, cut the fire budget by $17 million.
Endless amounts of money funneled to BS scammer homeless non-profits.
By the way, those workers make a quarter million dollars a year.
The homeless non-profit workers make a quarter million a year.
We're the highest taxed state yet, and we have encampments and squalor everywhere.
Even worse, we don't have enough firefighters to respond to the absolute disaster we're experiencing right now.
Rather than conserve the record rain we got last year, we just drained it into the ocean.
We are failing as a city run by a sick excuse for local government.
You want to radicalize people against the modern Democratic Party?
Send them to L.A. And isn't that the story?
You want to radicalize somebody against liberalism?
Make them live under liberalism.
You want to radicalize somebody against Democrat Party policies?
Make them live by Democrat Party policies.
There was just another story because, you know, we just hit the new year.
It's like for the fourth or fifth straight year, California has the largest deficit, let's say, of U-Haul trucks.
Meaning people are renting U-Haul trucks and never coming back.
And they've been the number one in that category for five straight years.
All right, before we move on to my next guest.
Nick Sordor, who's been covering this, he also covered the Maori wildfires.
So I wanted to talk to him about this.
Here's an interesting concept, and maybe not so far-fetched.
Now, I'm not saying this has anything to do with this, but, you know, maybe it's a worthy discussion.
Somebody asked Grok a month ago, if you could, that's the X-A-I, Grok.
If you could delete one city from existence in the USA, what city would you choose?
Two words maximum.
It chose Los Angeles.
Again, I'm not saying this was an AI thing, but again, I don't think we have fully, at least not publicly, maybe the tech elites and the tech executives have had these conversations.
I don't think the average public understands what's really at stake when it comes to Because I don't know what you would even call it, maybe going rogue.
I don't think it would be fair to say it gains consciousness or becomes sentient, but maybe that's what you say.
But let's say it does.
Let's say AI goes rogue, gets consciousness, gets sentience.
Plugged into quantum computing, access to unlimited data, access to the power structure, access to everything.
What could it do with that?
It could shut down banks, initiate wire transfers, forge documents, cause power failures.
And there's really no discussion being had about this.
So we always tend to look back when we have these major technological advances and look back and say, well, gee, here's all the bad things that happened because of it.
But with AI, it's not just bad things.
It's catastrophic, irreversible things, potentially.
So, you know, probably a conversation long overdue for the public.
All right, we're about to be joined by Nick Sordor.
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Alright, we did have some action.
On Capitol Hill today, we're waiting to get Nick Sartor on the line to talk about the wildfires and his coverage.
And, you know, he also covered the Maui wildfires, and people are seeing a lot of similarities.
So we'll be discussing that with Nick here in just a moment.
But some action on the Hill.
House passes Bill to sanction the International Criminal Court for arrest warrant against Benjamin Netanyahu.
Boy, isn't that funny.
And they trolled it a little bit, too.
They call it the ICC Act, but not the International Criminal Court Act.
It's the Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act.
And of course it was approved by your AIPAC-owned Congress.
The House of Representatives greenlit a bill Thursday that would slap sanctions against foreigners who attempt to enforce the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
So I guess some people are above the law.
The illegitimate Court Counter Action Act was approved 243 to 140, with 45 Democrats joining 198 Republicans to back the measure.
All 140 nay votes came from Democrats, as expected, including the squad members.
The act would compel the president to enforce punishments, including the revocation of visas against ICC officials pursuing Netanyahu.
And former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant over the conduct of Israel's war against Hamas.
So, that must be very nice.
When your Congress is owned by the Israeli lobby, you can commit war crimes, the UN can say it, the International Criminal Court can say it, and then the United States will come out and pass bills protecting you.
From that governing body, which I'm not for it anyway.
The International Criminal Court had good intentions.
It has no teeth to bite with.
The UN, I would just pull out of that altogether anyway.
But it's just a little reminder.
That's all it is.
It's just a little reminder.
Hey, any country that dares, that dares do anything to Netanyahu, you will be punished.
Oh, so the guy that's being accused of the war crimes and everything that's going on with that.
He doesn't get punished, but if you dare say or do something about it, you get punished.
I see.
That all sounds fine and good.
Nothing to see here.
Not your bought and paid for foreign interest Congress.
Now here's something that's in our interest.
Let's see if it's able to pass as easily as the Protect Netanyahu bill.
The Protect Netanyahu bill passed pretty easily.
What about abolishing the ATF? Do you think that'll go through without a struggle?
lauren boebert
Here's Lauren Boebert introducing that to the floor earlier today in Clip 19. Like we're seeing with this rule.
Instead of providing regulations that keep our communities safe, this agency has made our communities more dangerous by wandering weapons to the cartels.
Operation Fast and Furious exposed the recklessness of the ATF. How little regard they have for the rule of law.
And Americans have had a hard time viewing these agencies and its rules.
As legitimate.
Gun-free zones are the most dangerous places in our country.
The Second Amendment is absolute, and it's here to stay.
owen shroyer
So, let's see if we can get the Abolish the ATF Act, which would be in America's interest, passed as swiftly as we got the Protect Netanyahu Act, which is in Israel's interest.
Yeah, when it's in Israel's interest, it passes easily.
When it's in America's interest, you're fighting like cats and dogs, hoping you don't bleed out on the floor.
Now, getting back to the Israel situation.
Trump posted an interview clip of Jeffrey Sachs, and people get upset at Tucker Carlson because he just does interviews with anybody, which, okay, what's wrong with that?
Don't you want to hear from everybody?
Don't you hear from everybody's perspective, even the people you disagree with and people you hate?
So Sachs is one of those individuals.
And people were stunned when Trump shared this.
He posted this video on his Truth Social account, which is not very kind towards Netanyahu, in clip one.
jeffrey sachs
The war in Syria.
And you may actually hear from grown-up reporters who are lying through their teeth or ignorant beyond imagining that, oh, the war in Syria, yes, Russia intervened in Syria.
Well, do you know that the...
That Obama tasked the CIA to overthrow the Syrian government, starting four years before Russia intervened.
What kind of nonsense is that?
And how many times did the New York Times report on Operation Timber Sycamore, which was the presidential order to the CIA to overthrow Bashar al-Assad?
Three times in ten years.
This is not democracy.
This is a game.
And it's a game of narrative.
Why did the US invade?
Iraq in 2003. Well, first of all, it was completely phony pretenses.
It wasn't, oh, we were so wrong.
They didn't have weapons of mass destruction.
They actually did focus groups in the fall of 2002 to find out what would sell that war to the American people.
Abe Shulsky, if you want to know the name of the PR genius.
They did focus groups on the war.
They wanted the war.
All the time.
They had to figure out how to sell the war to the American people.
How to scare the shit out of the American people.
owen shroyer
Let's pause it right there because we have Nick Sorthor ready to go and we have limited time with him as he's traveling.
But Nick does join me now.
We'll come back to that clip shared by Trump just the other day.
All right, Nick, you, I mean, really, since your coverage of the Maui wildfires, you have become a huge name in independent press.
You've grown your status immensely.
And so you're kind of the expert on that, one of the leading experts on that.
What do you see similar between the Maui fires and the Los Angeles fires, if anything, or what do you notice about these Los Angeles fires that you want to report?
nick sortor
Yeah, so Owen, so I'm sorry about that.
I'm sorry how it's so hectic right now.
It's just that, you know, what is going on on the ground is even more than we expected at this point, desperately trying to get back out there, be on the ground and see.
I don't know if you've seen any of the images coming out of Los Angeles right now, but it...
The parallels, Owen, are so similar to Lahaina that it's giving me the chills.
The only difference I've seen so far is that they haven't forced people into the blast furnace like they did out in Lahaina, which caused the death of at least 100 people.
That's the government number.
We know that it's a lot higher than that.
The fact that there was no water coming out of the hydrants is exactly what happened out in Lahaina.
The fact that they knew the winds were coming and they did nothing to prepare for it, again, exactly what happened out in Lahaina.
This is Lahaina on a much grander scale, it seems, at this point.
And you know how the bureaucracy is out there in California.
You know how inept the leaders are, like Mayor Karen Bass and Governor Gavin Newsom.
Send shockwaves through the fifth largest economy in the world out there in California.
Thousands of structures have been lost so far.
Again, they've grounded the firefighting assets, the aerial assets, the fixed wings and the helicopters now grounded because of high winds again.
So you have another red flag warning out there.
So you're dealing with ground forces, which again, they didn't have enough of those either, Owen.
They didn't bring them in because you had the mayor was too busy out there in.
I don't know what the hell the mayor of Los Angeles needs to be doing out in Ghana.
It's not like there's any economic opportunity out there.
But she was out there.
She delayed coming back for like 24 hours while the city was on fire, burning to the ground.
But you know what?
To be honest, I don't know if you've heard any of these press conferences, Owen, but it sounds to me like she's totally incompetent and too inept to run the operation to begin with.
So maybe she needs to go back to Ghana.
I don't know.
owen shroyer
Well, she said if you need help, you can go to URL. She actually said that twice at a press conference.
She said if anybody needs help, go to URL. Nobody, of course, knows what that means.
I'm not even sure if she knows what's going on.
Okay, now I think that the one other similarity that I'm sure you've seen too, which has people scratching their heads for obvious reasons, there was the Smart City Initiative in Maui.
There's a Smart City Initiative in Los Angeles.
I mean...
That's like, you want to talk about the highest level of conspiracy theories.
I mean, that's kind of getting up to the highest level that's done intentionally.
I think the situation in Los Angeles is more of an incompetence, maybe criminal negligence, and then deranged bums going out into the woods and starting fires.
But have you reached any conclusions?
Or where are your conclusions kind of going right now?
nick sortor
I can say with a very high level of confidence.
That the fire that was set in Hollywood Hills yesterday was due to arson.
That is not public information.
That has not publicly been announced.
And I'm not allowed to reveal the source on that.
But that one in particular, I can say with 90% confidence that that one was due to arson.
Keep in mind that when these fires are miles apart, these aren't embers flying through the air, starting fires, you know, a few hundred yards away from each other.
These are fires that are all across the city.
If you look at the map.
These aren't even remotely in the same area as each other.
And they're starting in areas that are upwind.
So, you know, you can't even make the argument that embers are flying out there.
You know, the liberals are saying it's all due to climate change and it's due to the winds and everything.
That's not it.
I mean, you have a bunch of independent fires that are starting.
And the one from the Hollywood Hills yesterday, for example, started after the winds had died down.
So you can't use that as an example.
You can't say power lines were blown down.
That's not what happened.
It started due to arson.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and some of the areas also didn't even have power lines.
So they can't use the downed power line as it's used because they didn't have downed power lines.
But absolutely, I think at this point it's pretty much conclusive that people were starting fires, whether it's eco-terrorists, deranged bums that just have no connection to society or civilization, like the same type of people that'll light a woman on fire on a train.
But either way, you notice, like you said, they're not talking about that.
They're not talking about that.
There has been no strong statement from Bass or Newsom trying to stop other potential arsonists or even looters.
I mean, this is such a...
I mean, this is a day for the Democrat Party that I think they're going to feel the political punishment for a long time.
I mean, Trump is already bashing Newsom over this.
This is going to haunt his 2028 presidential campaign, no doubt.
nick sortor
Well, his...
The 2028 campaign has gone up in flames just like half of L.A. at this point.
You know, you have to see it.
Even the Hollywood leftists have been blasting Newsom and the mayor for this, saying that they pay the highest property taxes in the world and they can't even get working fire hydrants.
That should tell you a lot right there.
I mean, this is if California at this point doesn't wake up and doesn't stop voting and rubber stamping these hardcore leftists.
There's no more hope for them.
This should open up everybody's eyes because everybody across the spectrum from every way of life has been affected due to this fire.
And being somebody that covered the Maui situation for such a long time, Owen, I'll tell you right now, these people aren't going to have their homes rebuilt in the next few years.
It's going to take years to even get permitting done.
That's how long this is going to take.
owen shroyer
Well, and a lot of these people were uninsured or underinsured, rather.
You know, some of them...
nick sortor
That was due to Gavin Newsom's tyrannical over-regulations.
You know, it's like, I'm no friend of State Farm or Allstate or anybody.
But to be honest with you, man, it has to do with...
Newsom trying to force insurance companies to cover ultra-high-risk properties and then capping how much they're allowed to charge for those premiums.
Nobody in their right mind is going to insure a property out there in fireland in California knowing that the state is making no efforts to mitigate the risk of these fires.
Why would they do that?
owen shroyer
Well, that's exactly what happened.
I mean, they had to make a decision to either insure these people and risk going bankrupt or deny them insurance, and that's basically what they had to do at this point.
Some of the people probably can afford to lose millions of dollars of property, but not all of them.
Nick, I know you've got short time, so if you've got to bounce, you just let me know.
nick sortor
Yeah, I do have to bounce here right now, but I will be in the middle of the fire zone tomorrow if you want to.
Maybe we can do something again.
I'll let you know.
We'll do it live from there.
I got Starlink and everything.
We're doing another Starlink operation.
We're going to distribute it out in the countryside because nobody has any cellular out there.
It's a total blackout zone.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
Stay safe.
We'll be in touch.
We'll get in touch either later tonight or tomorrow for sure.
nick sortor
Appreciate you, Owen.
Thank you, man.
owen shroyer
All right.
Thank you, Nick.
Okay.
Glad we were able to just get him on briefly.
We'll be in touch with him.
He'll probably rejoin us tomorrow from the scene.
Okay, here's what I want to do now as we're about to enter the last hour.
I want to open up the phone lines again.
I want to again prioritize people from California to discuss this, specifically this growing insurance story.
What you're hearing from your local media, local law enforcement.
Are you hearing about looting?
Are you hearing about arson?
And then just...
The stories.
I mean, just the stories of what's going on and, I mean, hell, just call in and vent if you would like.
877-789-2539.
Number on the screen.
877-789-2539.
And when we do these special shows where we really focus on one thing and we put out a priority to the callers, we get so many great callers.
Happened yesterday, and so I believe we can do the same thing again.
Number on the screen, 877-789-2539.
We will prioritize callers from California.
But anybody else that wants to talk about that story, we'll get you on as well.
And if other people call in about other stories, maybe we'll make time for that.
But I want to prioritize the situation in California for obvious reasons.
unidentified
And I just gotta wonder.
owen shroyer
Because I can't help it.
I am a pragmatic person politically.
And so I just can't help but wonder, you know, it is an info war.
What are California liberals and Democrats thinking today?
Because the climate change lie is not sticking.
And there were a couple big accounts that aren't necessarily political accounts, but just I saw a couple of these.
And then you go into the replies.
And 95% of the replies are saying it's BS. And some of them are posting the science.
Some of them are saying, hey, I'm liberal.
I believe in climate change, but this was not bad.
This was bad leadership.
So I just don't see...
I just don't see how you put up with this if you're a California liberal.
I really don't.
And you can try to explain it away with climate change, but you'd just be lying to yourself, lying to everybody else.
Nobody's believing it.
Nobody's believing that.
And it's a basic observation.
You have all these fires starting all these different areas, miles apart.
People are starting them.
Whether it's deranged bums, whether it's eco-terrorists, something else, I don't know.
But clearly that's what's going on.
Areas with no power lines.
And anybody that has a city with a lot of homeless people, we have it in Austin.
One of the main places that they go is the hike and bike trails.
And they'll go down to the trail and they'll go a little off trail into the woods and you'll go find a little homeless community, 10, 15 people.
Maybe you go over to this one, a little bit bigger, 30, 40 people.
And they said, yeah, well, we traced some of these fires to these hike and bike trails.
I mean, come on.
It couldn't be more obvious what's going on.
But I just don't see it.
I just...
How bad does it have to get under Democrat rule before people stop voting for him?
I mean, Trump had a big victory and a big mandate and got the White House, the Senate, and the House.
But, I mean, I would say barely, but they stole two Senate seats.
They stole four House seats.
But it's just like, man.
Because, see, the real debate is happening on the right.
The real debate is now happening in the big tent kind of MAGA Republican Party that's this kind of schmush of like libertarian liberals, neocons, and conservatives who are just dyed-in-the-wool Republicans.
It's like this big schmush kind of big tent thing going on and they're debating foreign policy and H-1B visas and all this stuff and it's like real issues, real debates.
It's like that's the future, like that's really the future, is you have MAGA, you build a good economy, you get common sense policies in place, and then the left just kind of dies out.
The left just kind of fades out, fizzles out, and is done, and then the populist MAGA party kind of probably splits into more of like a liberal, libertarian, and then like a neocon conservative, or maybe even other factions, you're already seeing it.
But it's done.
Liberalism has to die.
It is a cancer.
And what happened in Los Angeles is maybe the greatest evidence we've seen yet of why it needs to go.
And you could point to, I mean, you know, it'd be as long as Santa Claus's naughty or nice list to point to the reasons why liberalism has failed.
But I mean, this is like glaring.
And it's a freaking fire burning a city to the ground.
And all the evidence is there about why it happened, and it has nothing to do with climate change.
unidentified
Nothing.
owen shroyer
And everybody knows it.
So, we're gathering some callers.
We are getting the callers from California.
So again, we will prioritize the California callers if you want to come in and tell your stories or vent or what you're hearing about insurance.
Or what you're hearing about potential arson or looting or any of the other phenomenon we've had that either led to this or in the aftermath of it.
But we can take some other calls as well.
But we do have callers from California that we'll be prioritizing as we get them all lined up here.
So why don't we start then with Paul in California, our first caller.
Paul, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Owen.
owen shroyer
Hello.
unidentified
Can you hear me?
owen shroyer
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
Happy New Year.
Yeah, I live in Pasadena.
And I'm about 10 miles south of the foothills.
I've lived here all my life.
Yeah, we were without power for a couple of days.
Kind of hard to read in the dark.
It's funny how people are, you know, they don't know how to deal with being in the dark.
And that's why I always tell people, hey, having neighbors is what's important when things like this happen.
If I hadn't had...
You know, knowing my neighbors, it would have been tougher.
And as far as the fires, I'm 10 miles south of Altadena and Eaton Canyon.
We're getting a lot of ashes floating down here, but nothing burning.
They did tell us we must evacuate, you know, and then they cut the power.
Powered it back on, so that much is good.
Anything else you want to know?
Because I'm here.
Pasadena.
owen shroyer
How many people evacuated when they gave the orders?
unidentified
Actually, I had neighbors asking me, hey, I get this ringy-dingy on my phone, am I supposed to split?
I go, don't let them panic you, because we're 10 miles south, wherever the fires are.
Now, these people in Pacific Palisades, like James Woods, on that, you know, these people living in that area, They probably got some money.
And they could probably, on their own, they could have had brush clearance.
And if you've got a shake-shingle roof, that's probably not a good idea if you're living in the hills in Malibu or Pacific Palisades.
So they should have done that on their own.
Now, I understand James Woods, he's an influencer.
He's a public figure.
Maybe he'll get the word out.
I saw that thing about Mayor, what's her name, Hall Hill?
And she was just befuddled, just standing there.
I think it was Sky News guy was asking her questions.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Mayor Bass, just, you know, completely worthless.
unidentified
Yeah, pretty worthless.
But that's L.A. City.
I'm county.
Where I live is Pasadena.
owen shroyer
You know, that's crazy that they cut your power, because in the middle of the inferno...
They had power lines sparking and starting new fires, and they wouldn't cut the power then.
And they said, well, we need the power to pump the water, but there was no water to pump.
The whole thing is just crazy, Paul.
Thank you for telling your story there and calling in today.
All right, we're going to continue to take calls.
We've got a lot of people lined up from California.
We've got other callers who want to talk about this as well.
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We're taking calls.
We got all kinds of people lined up.
Want to speak about the California wildfires in California.
Let's go to Evan.
Evan in California.
We go to Evan first.
Go ahead.
evan in california
How we doing, Owen?
owen shroyer
Good.
evan in california
Good to talk to you, buddy.
Last time I talked to you, you were about to go to prison for being a truth teller.
And I just, now that I have an opportunity to say hello to you again, I just wanted to say what a stud you, how you handled that.
So studly, never saw you use sweat, dude.
Even when they put you in prison.
So I just wanted to say that.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
unidentified
Very kind.
evan in california
The other thing I'm going to mention is...
I see Alex turning into a male model, so I got some sea moss, and I take sea moss in the morning with a little caffeine with green tea, and I've already lost 20 pounds a little over a month.
So Alex is, you know, encouraging the troops.
For me, that's a pretty good product.
Now it wakes me up in the morning.
I don't even eat breakfast.
I just, boom, sea moss.
So that's just genius.
owen shroyer
Well, you know, I'll just go ahead and just out the truth here.
It's actually somebody in an Alex Jones mask, or maybe it's a clone.
I really don't know the full story anymore.
The rumors are true.
It's a clone or somebody wearing a mask.
It's not the real Alex.
evan in california
You know, the funny thing is, as I always, you know, Alex has said, but he is a good-looking dude, and I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch more women are going to follow the info wars with this guy's dead boy now.
So we'll see.
I think he's going to draw on some of the females with that one.
owen shroyer
All right, Evan, you called in about chemtrails.
evan in california
Yeah, you know, the strange thing that, you know, I live on the coast.
I live in the South Bay, so below Palisades.
And we had really nice westerly breeze and really nice weather.
And all of a sudden, they start laying on the chemtrails thick.
And I mean...
You saw no blue, just plane after plane after plane.
I was telling all my neighbors, look at this, this is brutal.
I go, and all the times I've seen them chemtrailing, this is really, really bad.
Next thing I know, man, you could feel the atmosphere, the moisture just being sucked out of it.
And within, you know, 12 hours or something, we have a sand and a wind blowing the other way.
So I personally think it was 100% essentially a warfare attack.
And the clincher for me is the brutal video that you see one of our super high-tech planes, you know, flying probably Mach 2 or something.
You see it fly through like where the flames are.
And it's out there.
I don't know if you guys have shown it, but it's pretty obvious.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, I saw that and I just am not convinced of what it is.
So I just decided not to air it.
I don't know what it is.
So I just, you know, who knows?
I don't feel confident.
I'm trying to say what it is, but I do know the video you're referencing.
evan in california
Not necessarily that it was lighting it on, but I'll tell you, when you have the chemtrails fill the sky like what you're showing now, ten times worse than that.
Some of you guys maybe took videos.
I post a lot of videos on the Evan Knight Show on X, and I get shut down.
But the chemtrails were worse than the ones you're showing now.
And I was like, wow, in a couple years, I haven't seen this thick.
And then a couple days later, the forests are burning.
So I don't think that's a coincidence.
I really don't.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Well, people aren't really talking about a directed energy weapon.
They were really into that discussion during the Maui wildfires.
And, you know, I'm not saying that that was the case either, but there are patents for that.
I mean, that's very real.
These are public patents.
Anybody can go look them up.
U.S. patents.
But, yeah, as far as the image of that thing streaking out of the smoke, I just don't know what it is.
I'm not convinced it's anything.
It could be like a propane tank exploding even is what people think it might be.
But yeah, I do know the video you're talking about.
I haven't heard anybody else bring up that chemtrail phenomenon.
And I did mention the chemtrails and cloud seeding yesterday, but I didn't hear anybody say that they saw the chemtrails before the fires until you just brought it up, Evan.
So that's very suspicious.
Thank you for the call.
All right, we're in the third and final hour of the Infowars War Room.
We're going to be taking calls here, prioritizing callers from California, specifically Southern California, on what you're hearing about these fires, local media, local law enforcement, the issue with people losing their insurance, the issues how they're starting off all over the place.
It looks like it's arson now.
Anything else you're hearing, you want to tell your story, you want to vent against Newsom and Bass, it's all fair game.
We go back to California, and we have Mike in California.
Mike, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Thank you very much, Owen.
A couple of things for you.
Number one, two years ago, as I recall, Caruso was ahead on Election Day, and for several days thereafter, we're having problems not just with congressional voting vote tallies, but probably mayor tallies and city council elections, etc.
I think it took three or four or five days.
Eventually, Bass caught up and superseded him, but it looked kind of weird.
That was two years ago.
So who really won that election?
We don't know.
So it's not necessarily the Californians don't know how to vote better.
We really must find a way to have the election system put into good—hopefully maybe you and Alex can connect with Trump and Musk, because if we don't have—if we can't vote, we are never going to solve these problems.
owen shroyer
Not peacefully.
Not politically.
unidentified
A couple other quick things for you.
And really, this is urgent because I believe the Californians are swaying, but they need to be able to vote and get the vote in.
What happened in Orange County with the congressional seats is preposterous.
They had bans showing up.
You covered that.
But this kind of stuff wasn't covered, but it's still going on.
A couple of other quick things.
Just wait.
You're going to see probably the call for thousands and thousands of low-income housing units going in there.
That's a big thing about equity that's always pushed here.
So you're looking for reasons why they let this happen, partially to obtain the land, like they did in Maui, perhaps an obtain-the-land kind of strategy, but also to cram in low-income housing or some other form, something like that.
And one last thing, keep in mind that they will never, the people who are behind this are never going to stop.
You were saying the tide might turn and they would just fade away.
I don't think so, because I think that they continuously attempt to sort of like...
Bubble in the background and get ready for the next thing.
That's why I see Harris being very formal about turning over the hands of, you know, the keys to the new, basically turning over power, because they want to be able to say, look how we did so smoothly, because the next time they try and cheat or steal on the election, they don't want to have any problems.
So these issues are coming up and they're bubbling in the background.
They won't stop.
And if we can't vote properly, it's never going to stop.
owen shroyer
You know, I forgot about the Bass-Carruso race, and you bring it up, and I remember that being a bit of a fiasco.
But I guess that would just show you that, because Caruso actually ran as a Democrat.
So, I mean, it wasn't like it was a Republican versus a Democrat.
I mean, he ran as a Democrat, probably strategically speaking.
And yeah, he was leading, and then Bass ended up winning.
And so here you are.
And look.
You can get into hypotheticals, but I think it's pretty fair, based off what we've heard from Caruso since, that this probably would not have happened, at least like this, if Caruso was your mayor.
unidentified
Well, if I can say, Caruso was a developer.
He is a developer.
A very talented one.
owen shroyer
He's a billionaire developer.
He's highly successful.
unidentified
Billionaire.
The Grove in L.A. Also, he has a shopping center, an outdoor mall that's beautiful in the Palisades, called The Village.
He's exceptional.
Plus, he's supposed to be a nice guy.
I think to give back to L.A. I don't think it's a power thing.
He's got enough money.
It's a little bit like Trump, but he doesn't have queens in him.
He's just kind of a nice, relaxed guy.
He wanted to give back to L.A. He spent $100 million of his own money to do this.
And I don't think it would have happened because he understands land, real estate, maintaining values, maintaining properties.
His properties are gorgeous.
I don't think he would have had it happen.
I think he would have had...
Also, the other problem is forward...
Looking leadership, you know, actual real leadership and vision, which he has.
You have to have great vision to be a developer at his level.
He's got it.
So for some reason, they didn't want him in.
They don't want him in.
But I'm telling you, Owen, this is happening.
At the city council level, these elections, and they're trying.
I hear it.
They want smart cities.
They want 15-minute cities.
They want no gas stoves.
They want all electric.
It's still going on.
They're simply not going to stop.
This is absolutely a portion of this is DEI, and the end result of all DEI is destruction.
And they don't seem to mind it.
They don't mind it.
This is extraordinary.
I'm telling you, I live very close to the Palisades.
These properties, I hike in those trails.
It's very easy.
I hate to say it.
In fact, I barely don't want to say it.
For someone to set a fire, it's very easy.
These trails are thick.
I hike them all the time.
Someone can sneak off into the thing and who knows what.
And if it happened, I don't know, but the winds were tremendous.
This would have been the time.
By the way, in the past, Palisades were never thought of as a huge fire risk.
Malibu was, sure.
Much drier, but the Palisades was thicker, more green.
No one really thought too much about it.
But this whole thing four months ago, I remember hearing, well, they want to cancel fire.
I heard about that.
Fire insurance, like, why?
Who cares about the Palisades?
It was weird.
So the whole thing was kind of weird.
Again, I have no proof.
I don't know anything about it.
I just know that, indeed, Caruso was a good guy who wanted to help.
That's the problem.
They do, at the local level, they're doing what the national and globalist kind of, what the blueprint is for them to do.
So they're part of a machine.
And our side isn't well enough organized.
When I say our side, I mean just common sense people.
We're not well organized.
You guys are doing a great job to help organize.
owen shroyer
Well, they just don't even bother spending the money in California because they just figure you can't win.
So you have to run as a Democrat to win in California.
I think that's part of the strategy because they just, for whatever reason, Californians just continue to vote Democrat, whether it's legitimate or not.
That's what you get.
So, Mike, thank you for the call.
And yeah.
Folks, I'm telling you, I'm not some big hiker, but I know the trails.
I know where the homeless hang out.
And the hiking trails or just other trails are some of the top homeless spots.
And they start fires, keep warm at night, cook food, whatever it is.
So that's definitely a factor in all of this.
How much of a cause.
But also, I would just say this, too.
If I'm Trump, if Biden doesn't...
Secure the federal aid to California in the next 10 days.
Which I'm sure Newsom is just begging and pleading.
I mean, he's on his knees right now.
Newsom is on his knees begging Biden for the federal aid.
Because the state doesn't have it.
But if I'm Trump, Newsom comes calling me begging, I would make sure every single penny of federal aid that goes into California has oversight.
Because they will steal that money so fast, you won't even know what hit you.
You won't even know what hit you.
And I don't know how you just, I don't know how you turn it down.
You have to help the people.
Yeah, it's too bad that we've prioritized illegal immigrants, foreigners, foreign wars, foreign countries for the last four years and probably our whole lives.
So it's like, yeah, really, we don't have the money, but I mean, you can't say no.
I would have so much oversight.
I'd have a board of oversight over every single penny that gets sent to California in federal aid because those Democrats will steal it, steal it, steal it.
Guaranteed.
Let's go to Bob in California.
Bob, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Thank you so much for having me.
I was actually on yesterday, and I just want to thank you for that time.
And again, Jesus is the way.
Prayer of a Righteous Man availeth much.
But what I wanted to say, because you aired me, we have had people reaching out from different parts of the world, the country, about our product, the Protectotherm product that is tough to get through the regulations and stuff like that.
So I want to thank you for that.
And also someone mentioned, hey, Steve, you might be able to do a sponsorship with Alex Jones and Infowars.
To avoid the red tape, so that's an idea.
But again, still trying to reach out to people in Pacific Palisades, not getting any response.
Devastating.
Like they're saying, that's the cream of the crop of California.
And also what I wanted to say, I believe if elections were fair here, it would have been a red wave.
Trump would have won.
You know, easy peasy.
And so I know a lot of people around the country, especially conservatives.
Have a negative view of California, and maybe rightly so.
But I want to let you know there's a lot of red-heart-beating Americans here that love the Lord and all the Constitution.
So please don't forget that, is what I would say.
owen shroyer
Well, we try not to.
And you've got, obviously, the liberals are so bad there and your election results are so bad there that it kind of gets overwhelmed.
But there obviously are a lot of great conservatives and Trump voters and everything else.
And it's a beautiful state.
I mean, there's no denying just the beauty of California.
No matter what, as long as you're, you know, not in the homeless squalor, it's beautiful in many places up and down the coast.
So it's just too bad.
It's really too bad what the Democrats have done to your state.
And I just, for the sake of the country, too, I hope that we can turn it around.
Bob, why don't you just hold on the line real quick and my crew will get your email.
All right.
Let's go.
We got other callers here.
The lines are filled, so I can't squeeze in anybody else from California because the lines are filled.
But when somebody hangs up, that's the opportunity.
But we've exhausted our California callers.
They're calling them from everywhere here.
It looks like we might have one more that we're getting on.
But let's just go to Larry.
Larry, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Good afternoon, Owen.
You might also know me as Father Larry.
I've called him before.
owen shroyer
Okay.
unidentified
I specifically want to address the direct energy weapons that are being used in this fire.
owen shroyer
And why do you think that's the case?
unidentified
Because I've seen video evidence.
I'm on a podcast on pill.net, and our show, we showed a video clip showing the direct energy weapons igniting trees.
owen shroyer
What does the clip look like?
unidentified
It shows the trees, and you see the beams coming down and igniting the trees.
owen shroyer
Beam coming down from what exactly?
unidentified
From the sky.
Hmm.
owen shroyer
I saw some other videos that my crew was showing me, and I was just like, yeah, that's just a lens flare.
So I don't know if that's what you're saying or not.
unidentified
Oh, no, this is actual fire.
And it's the beams that are igniting the fire.
owen shroyer
I did see some of the pictures.
I mean, it's just...
You can't even believe it, but, I mean, they're there.
It's mainstream news publishing them, taking the pictures.
Whole city blocks burned down, and then it's a blue van, and then it's a blue recycling canister.
unidentified
You have to understand that the fact that they've canceled fire insurance on so many of these residents, and they've emptied the reservoirs so there's no water for them to put out fires.
You know, you start putting the coincidences together, and it's no longer a coincidence.
owen shroyer
Well, that takes an awful lot of coordination and corruption to pull that off, and if they can do it, if the Democrats can do it in California, I suppose they would, Larry.
Thank you for the call.
Let's go to Patrick in California.
Patrick, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, thank you.
So, I live in Northern California, and I just want to say...
There's been so many fires around here.
You got the Tubbs fire.
You got the Glass fire.
You got the Mosquito fire.
And all the other ones.
But there's firefighters.
They have every chance.
They know everything what to do.
It's not the lack of training.
Because in my experience, my house was saved because we had a driver.
We had a whole crew of firefighters and a bulldozer guy.
And he said, what can I do to help you guys?
We said, just make a fire line right around this little hill.
And right as soon, like almost before he got there, the fire was creeping up this little hill right behind our house.
And if it wasn't for that, our house would have been toast.
So I just want to say...
They were doing fire break cuts last night.
owen shroyer
I mean, it's crazy.
unidentified
Well, because it's not the lack of knowledge and what they can do.
They know how to solve this.
They know how to say this.
It truly is.
There's no other reason why this should be happening other than bullshit reasons why they have lack of resources.
owen shroyer
Well, they have plenty.
Well, I mean, you could argue they have plenty of resources or not.
They have plenty of resources to pay themselves, certainly.
The California bureaucrats are making a lot of money.
I mean, we covered that earlier.
But it's criminal negligence.
It's intentional incompetence.
And really, they just do not care.
These liberals are all activists.
So they get in there and they think about their activism.
How can I have more gay people here?
How can I have more women here?
How can I have more non-whites here?
They're not thinking about whatever their job is.
They're thinking about identity politics and liberalism.
unidentified
I remember my city mayor.
So our whole town was evacuated.
We live outside the city, so we stayed.
We knew we were safe.
But he told us we were not...
Anybody who stayed within the city or anybody that stayed in the town after evacuation orders, they were not welcome, and they don't care about us.
But we know this guy.
He's a pretty good guy of ours.
We live in a small town.
And he's like, yeah, I pretty much was made to say that.
Wild to hear.
Pretty much all I had to say is just the lack of, like, this shouldn't be happening.
It's bullshit.
Don't listen to the lies.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, as long as Democrats are in charge, probably going to keep happening, unfortunately.
Let's go to Top Gun in California.
Top Gun, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Top Gun, the digital soldier was going down on Troyer, the destroyer.
Hey, man, so...
Coming live from the apocalypse over here in SoCal.
And yeah, man, honestly, I really, you know, listening to the other conversations you were having with other Californians, I honestly don't think this is a blue state, you know.
Supposedly the last midterm election.
10.8 million ballots that were unaccounted for and never looked into.
I don't know how true that is.
But that tells me that Gavin Newsom shouldn't be in there.
A lot of the people, a lot of the Democrats shouldn't even be in there.
So, there's a lot of money you know as well as everybody else that looks on the outside in California that there's a lot of money behind this machine.
And when you've got unlimited funding, you're going to push pretty much any agenda you want.
I think that if maybe Trump can get someone like a Laura Trump or a Scott Pressler to organize something to where we can start winning elections again, or having a too-big-to-rig type deal.
I think California can change around.
And I'm very in tune with the Second Amendment community out here.
We're winning cases.
That's a whole other ballgame.
But the thing is, is that we can succeed if we actually put our resources and our hard work into it.
You know, it's just we don't have a Donald Trump or we don't have a Scott Pressler right now.
There are some people that, you know, are involved in trying to help, you know, California little by little, but it's just not enough.
And these fires, I mean, it reminds me of Maui.
You know, the same exact thing.
I have people that lost their homes.
My fiancé's aunt just lost her home in Pacific Palisades.
None of this is a coincidence.
Fires are starting at the same time in different places at the exact same time.
I don't know if that is DEWs.
It could be, but there are a lot of homeless out there that randomly just start fires because they're high on dope and all that stuff.
That could also be Antifa.
Who knows?
Who knows what's really going on?
That's pretty much all I've got to say about that.
owen shroyer
I just, if this isn't the wake-up call for California liberals and Democrats and really the entire country, it's just, okay, so what comes next?
I mean, what is worse?
What is a bigger wake-up call than a city burning to the ground that absolutely is traced right back to Democrat Party policies and liberal ideologies?
Thanks for the call.
Let's go to Edgar in California.
Edgar, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen.
First-time caller.
Just want to tell you, yeah, It's crazy out here.
But last night, I was watching Channel 7 live around 7.45, and they were interviewing Kristen Crowley and the socialist councilman in LA and the city council, Nithya Rahman.
And they were double boxing.
On the right box, they were showing these five guys saving their home, shooting a water hose on the palm tree.
That's on fire, and all the embers are falling on the roof, and these guys are bathing their house.
Practically, one, I'm cheering them on, and the reporter's asking the fire chief, like, what do you recommend people do in this situation?
Practically asking, do you approve of these guys doing this?
And she starts saying, no, they should be evacuating.
They shouldn't be there.
And I'm like, what the hell?
Why is she saying this?
It's like they want these neighborhoods to go on fire.
And 20 minutes later, they came back and the guy saved the house.
And the reporter's asking them, like, hey, I see you guys saved their home.
And the guy's saying, yeah, we're a community here.
This was in Altadena.
It was in Altadena.
It was a live shot, 7.45 p.m.
I live here in the mid-city area.
I'm La Brea.
Close to Hollywood.
I'm in the middle of L.A. There was like 50 LAPD cars shooting up La Brea north to Hollywood, all in line.
And it was just hectic last night.
And the caller that said about Trump supporters being here in California, he's right.
I'm one of those proud 52% Hispanics that voted for Trump.
I can't believe people are not waking up.
This was all set up.
This was bombs doing this.
I'm sad, man.
I knew the Highlands area, Palisades.
My mom worked up there for 20 years.
For one of the best rheumatologist doctors in Beverly Hills.
He sold his property 10 years ago.
Went to Idaho.
I'm so glad they did.
Rich, poor, middle class, this is not cool, man.
I'm 47 years old.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, no pun intended, but maybe it is accurate.
When the smoke clears on this deal, I don't think we really understand how bad it is quite yet.
And thank you for the call, Edgar.
And so, you know, it's one thing when these fires are just out in the woods and the forestation and they do burn a lot of land.
But, I mean, these were residential areas.
These were residential communities, developments, complexes.
I mean, just gone.
Just gone.
Entire lines of beachfront property, gone.
And the callousness, the lackadaisicalness of the Democrat leadership is just, it's just embarrassing.
It's just embarrassing.
Karen Bass is an embarrassment.
She should have resigned yesterday.
Newsom's not going to resign.
He's going to run for president.
But this should devastate.
This should devastate Newsom's 2028 presidential run.
You know, there's more people are digging into different LAPE FD videos.
I mean, there's more woke garbage.
They literally do special reports, special videos talking about how gay they are.
I'm serious, folks.
I'm not going to air it today because I got people waiting that have been called and holding on the line.
We'll play it tomorrow.
And this thing is just such an embarrassment, man.
And it's all fun and games to them.
It's all fun and games.
It's like, hey, look, we're woke.
Hey, look, we're going to do a video.
You're going to sit down.
You know, big fat butch lesbian in a fire outfit.
Hey, sit down and talk about how gay you are.
You know, it's fun.
It's cool.
Look, we're activists.
We're fire.
We're firefighters.
Hey, look, we got the whole thing going on.
And it's all a giant LARP. You know, I'm sitting here contemplating in the break about...
Because I just don't see how this isn't...
I mean...
I don't see how they get away with this.
I don't see how they get away with prioritizing diversity, equity, and inclusion.
I don't see how they get away with not filling the water reservoirs.
I don't see how they get away with not clearing the forests and getting rid of the brush and doing the fire breaks.
I don't know how they get away.
Karen Bass isn't even in the country, not even on the continent.
I don't know how they get away with this.
I mean, people are going to return to their homes, are going to be gone.
You're going to have the issue with people being underinsured or completely uninsured.
The backlash from this, I just don't see how it's not...
I don't know.
I mean, Newsom is still definitely going to run in 2028, but this is so bad.
And this is right.
This is all...
I mean, it's literally Democrat policy and ideology that did it, but we all know that now.
So, let's go back.
We still have callers in California.
Let's go to Christian in California.
Christian, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Hey, Owen, you there?
owen shroyer
Yes.
unidentified
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
I've talked to you before, but I just wanted to call because mainly I wanted to thank you and Infowars for playing a role in me becoming a Christian.
I was a Christian.
I listened to InfoWars, and I followed various conspiracy stuff, trying to find the truth.
But I wanted to tell all the InfoWarriors out there that the end of the truth, once you get down to what is the truth, it's Christ, ultimately.
And I live here in Northern California, and I just want to impart that to all InfoWarriors out there.
If you're listening and you're not yet a Christian, Pray to Jesus Christ for an enlightenment, for truth, because He is the truth.
He is the life.
He changed my life.
And Infowars played a big role in that, so I just wanted to share that with other people.
And I just truly thank you and your crew and Alex Jones for that, because I think you played a big role.
Big role in that.
Also, I live in Northern California, and I want to reiterate what the other caller said about the politics in the state.
I genuinely think that California has been red for a very long time.
The conservatives we have here in the state are, like, hardcore, man.
Like, seriously, like...
I hear a lot of callers talking, or I read a lot of comments on the internet about California, like I wish it would fall in the ocean and that kind of thing.
But we're all Americans, and as California goes, so does the rest of the country.
And so we need to unite around this idea that California elections have been stolen for probably decades, and we need Trump to kind of come to our rescue and reform elections in this country so that we can...
We have legitimate elections here.
Even, like, our state GOP is hijacked at the state level.
So we just need legitimate elections.
And, you know, I'm hoping for a revival, a spiritual revival around this country.
And just, yeah.
You know, like, I'm a homeowner as well, so our insurance rates are super high.
We're on this so-called California fare plan because we got dropped.
And we're paying like $500 a month for homeowner's insurance.
And it's just freaking crazy living here.
Don't even get me started on medical insurance.
Sorry, I'm just rambling on.
owen shroyer
No, let it all out.
Maybe that's the hinge here that when the next round of elections happens, And everybody's like, yeah, we can't vote Democrats anymore, and then they win again.
Maybe that'll be the time where people are finally like, okay, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
After that fire, everybody I know, everybody I talk to, even Democrat voters, liberals, they're done voting Democrat, and I don't know anybody that's voting Democrat, and then the Democrats keep winning.
So maybe that's the phenomenon that takes place for people to say, hey, hold on.
Something is deeply disturbed with our election process.
unidentified
I agree.
And I think I think people saw that when the recall on Newsom failed, which is why I think that Trump actually won in 2024.
I think he actually won the popular vote in California by a large margin.
just given the fact that, like, there's no support for Biden here, man.
Like, you don't see it on people's cars.
You don't see the yard signs out or anything like that.
You see Trump everywhere, bro.
No one likes Biden.
No one likes Kamala Harris.
And so you remember when Newsom was recalled in 2022 and Larry Elder was going against him.
And it was just like, there was support for Larry Elder in typical blue areas.
I saw Elder Yard signs and stuff like that, like Recall Newsome everywhere.
So it's like, what kids, man?
It just doesn't make sense.
And when things don't make sense, you're just like, clearly they're cheating.
There's no other answer for this.
owen shroyer
Can you recall and conclude?
Can Newsom be recalled again?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know what the deal is on that.
owen shroyer
If I was Trump, I probably wouldn't put my name on it.
But if I was Trump, I'd be making moves to get another recall of Newsom just to embarrass him.
Because he's clearly going after Newsom now, anticipating his 2028 presidential run.
I mean, Trump's not running into 2028, but he's just doing his part to destroy Newsom's campaign before he even gets off.
That would be another huge blow.
Twice recalled governor?
unidentified
Yeah.
That's the other thing.
Anyone in the Infowarriors listening right now, if you're not a Christian, read the Bible.
What does the Bible say?
It says, the prince of this earth is Satan.
God has made it that way.
That's just the way it is.
The prince of the earth is Satan.
California is like, dude, honestly, California is awesome.
I've lived here my whole life.
It's gorgeous.
So where would Satan want to live?
Satan controls this state.
He controls the world.
And so clearly things are going to be messed up here.
And if you're asking yourself, like, hey, why are things like this?
That's because that's the way God made it.
Like, you just got to let go of any, like, pride, not you, Owen, but, like, anyone listening.
If you're not a Christian yet, just repent, man, because I really think Jesus is coming soon.
And we just all got to get ready because, man, keep your eye on the sky.
owen shroyer
All right, Christian, thank you for the call.
You know, there's another theory going around about, of course, the pedophile networks in California.
And a lot of the evidence of those networks just went up in flames, conveniently.
So that's kind of more on the fringe of the conspiracy theories.
But there's also discussions about that happening.
Let's go to Michael in California.
Michael, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hello, Owen.
owen shroyer
Howdy.
unidentified
Hi.
So, Owen, my primary reason for calling is to kind of shed more light on how sophisticated a lot of these weather programs and geoengineering really is.
I've been almost meaning to call you before when the conversation has come up.
They have...
This technology is probably more advanced than most people realize, where they're pushing storms.
They can push storm fronts to the north.
They can push them to the south.
They can prevent lift in the atmosphere.
It seems like what a lot of people confuse is chemtrails against cloud seeding.
Cloud seeding, so many people are familiar with it because it goes all the way back to the Vietnam War, and of course we know they add silver iodide to the clouds.
And you get a diluge of precipitation.
The actual chemtrails prevent the precipitation, where they have actually more control of the weather.
They can have the storm, the precipitation start when they want it to, and they can shut it off when they want it to, and control how much precipitation you get.
I really learned there's a guy on YouTube, it's one precip...
He's an older meteorologist.
He's not under any of the non-disclosure agreements that the clowns on corporate media are.
And he explains this stuff with all the meteorological tools he's showing you.
So by the time I've watched probably 400 of his videos, you learn a lot about how sophisticated this all has gotten.
They can actually create the windy conditions.
So if you want to create disaster capitalism, these people invested in disaster capitalism, the globalists, the insurance companies, and they want to create Lahaina Hawaii, they want to create this, well, We need high wind.
We need dry fuel for the fire to start.
And we can ship water off at the fire hydrants and leave the power on, and they enhance these disasters, which probably doesn't come as maybe as a surprise to too many people.
But my main point is this weather modification, this geoengineering stuff is really probably a lot further along than maybe what a lot of people realize.
owen shroyer
Well, there's stuff that there's public, obviously, and there's probably some secret programs as well.
unidentified
Yeah, but the direct energy weapons, certainly.
Certainly we had Paradise, California.
I think that was 2018, like somebody brought up earlier.
Sure enough, it looks very bizarre to almost anybody.
I think the police chief from that town even came out and said, hey, this looks really strange.
Like you mentioned, there's a garbage bin made of plastic that's 10 feet away from a house that's just on the ground.
And you've got the car that's melted into some kind of melted aluminum.
Yeah, we kind of saw that again.
Yeah, I'm not even sure about directed energy weapons in Pacific Palisades.
I saw pictures earlier, and it looks kind of weird, but with this, when they can create high wind, you've got California, the tinderbox that it is, with no precipitation.
It don't take much to start and get the fires roaring.
owen shroyer
Well, especially if you've got people actually out in the woods starting fires.
unidentified
Exactly right.
So sure enough, the fire started on Tuesday and Al-Qaeda was hit hard in Pacific Palisades.
So yesterday, I can see Runyon Canyon, which is a sunset fire right out my kitchen window.
It's like 5.30 last night, and all of a sudden, whoops, that park was completely closed.
There's an entrance at the bottom, and there's an entrance at the top.
I'm talking about Runyon Canyon.
They've got cop cars at the top.
They had cops at the bottom.
And all of a sudden, somehow in this park that has no power lines, whoops, somehow, some way, there's a fire starting in Hollywood.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I was going to say, wasn't Runyon Canyon one of the ones that got hit pretty bad?
unidentified
Well, that one was a smaller one.
And luckily, the wind had died down enough that the water drops from the helicopters, they were able to get that under control pretty quickly because wind conditions were right.
But just literally, I'm looking at it right now at my kitchen window.
We have this fire, but luckily the helicopters were able to put that one out quite fast.
I would not be surprised if there's people around L.A., criminal psychology, hey, I'm going to start a fire, too, in someone's backyard.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
owen shroyer
Sure, sure.
Or, again, if you've got a deranged bum that'll set a woman on fire on a subway train, you don't think some deranged bum will go out in the woods and start a fire?
I mean, of course they would.
All right, Michael, thank you for the call.
I've got to take some other calls.
You know, here's another, this is just kind of basic, let's say, perception of how these things work.
Absolutely, they can manipulate the weather.
Now, how much they've mastered it, how big the programs are, you know, when it's implemented, okay, there's a bit of a mystery, but absolutely, 100%, they can manipulate the weather, and they do.
And...
They just remade the famous movie from I think it was the 90s, Twister.
And that's like the whole kind of part of the movie is how they can manipulate the weather.
And it's not in a bad way.
They're saying in the movie they want to be able to manipulate the weather to stop tornadoes.
And so in the movie they talk about how they can inject different chemicals into tornadoes to create...
A environment, a climate that basically just snuffs the tornado out.
So it's like, this is just chemistry.
This is just science.
Absolutely, they can do it.
So am I saying that's what caused this fire?
I don't know.
It's certainly a possibility.
The point is that people just say, oh, it's a conspiracy theory.
It doesn't exist.
It absolutely exists.
It's public information.
All right.
We've got Matt Baker on the line in California.
He went...
To the scene.
Shot some videos last night standing in front of the Raging Inferno.
He joins us now on the line.
Matt, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, what's up, Owen?
Yeah, me and my buddy Luke, Luke Slywaker, out here.
We spent all yesterday, last night, up there at the Pacific Palisades Fire.
We went down to the Altonina Fire.
Carnage, just out of control.
We got flame pictures right up on the flames, right coming down to the beach.
Saw structure fires happening from the embers and stuff.
Pretty haggard because we only got like four hours sleep.
I sat at a friend's house up there in L.A., got on at about 6 in the morning.
I got to say, I do not think this one was directed energy weapons.
It's directed Democrat stupidity.
Like everyone has said, it's the lack of water.
It's the lack of clearing the brush.
It's the lack of any kind of common sense.
Running these things.
You know, they'd rather save some rat living in a log somewhere than to actually save the area.
They're trying to create these, you know, sanctuary areas for animals, and then the entire forest burns down and they all die.
You know, we saw crows eating roasted, you know, squirrels.
You know, every single form of life is dead in these canyons.
So this idea that they're going to save them by not clearing the brush is just total BS.
And the fact that they wouldn't, that they just canceled the insurance.
And like what you saw what happened in the last storm was now they won't give them insurance.
So a lot of these places won't even be able to rebuild and they'll be rewilding these and creating even bigger wildfires in the future.
owen shroyer
Or who knows what they'll do with that.
Time will tell.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know if you see any of that footage.
If you go to my page, you can see some of the stuff there.
I mean, we did a lot of good work, though.
Not only catching footage.
We brought some water out there.
We put out a bunch of little mini fires.
Like, we literally put out, like, seven or eight fires on one property.
owen shroyer
Firefighter Matt Baker?
unidentified
Yeah, we did it.
Me and my buddy Luke.
He's got a little water pump, and we grabbed a bucket.
We found a couple of shovels and things that were on people's properties that had burned down.
And not only that, we went to this building, and there was a gas leak, and we called it in.
They shut off the gas.
Then we went, we found a peacock that was singed by the fire, and we called animal control, and they came to save that bird.
So, I mean, being proactive, you just don't know, because one of these little embers, you think, oh, there's no point in putting that little ember out, but that's how fires start.
So they walk away from the fire.
Thinking everything's okay, they're off on the next little thing.
And then they turn around, the wind shifts, and then another guy go back and fight that same fire again.
So, you know, people go out there and go around and just put out some of these small embers.
They could save a lot of time and effort for the firefighters, too.
But it's just Democrat stupidity.
These winds, they come up all the time.
But this thing can be managed.
You know, these areas need to be cleared.
Just like Trump was saying, rake the forest.
That sounds ridiculous, but it's not.
You can't even get a permit.
To go out and take down dead wood.
Like, you want to just have a firewood business?
In most places, they allow you to go out and cut firewood because it's a win-win situation.
Here they won't because some insect is living in a rotting, you know, piece of bark somewhere, and they need to save it.
owen shroyer
But see, isn't that the irony?
And you said that earlier.
Isn't that the irony of the whole thing?
Hey, we want to save the smeltfish, or we want to save the whatever bug in the forest or something.
So they implement policies, and then the whole forest ends up burning.
unidentified
Yeah, the entire apocalypse, which I don't know if it's total stupidity or if they're just doing it on purpose.
You know, the rosters say make sense out of nonsense, and you get the answer.
And that's the OG conspiracy theory.
When you see something, you're like, why are they saying that?
That makes no sense.
It's because you don't know why they're doing it.
You know, they have their plan.
They want to get people out of the wilderness areas.
They want to move them into the 15-minute cities.
They want to make it illegal.
Even in San Diego, they're trying to make it illegal to build anything out in the East Country.
It's too dangerous now.
Now, anytime there's a little bit of wind, they shut the power down.
So they're putting the screws down.
owen shroyer
Except when the fire's going and the generators or everything are popping off and blowing up, then they keep it going.
Go figure.
I'm curious, though.
We're playing some of your footage here.
What was it like just walking through that zone of apocalyptic scenes of just things burned to the ground?
unidentified
There was one that really got me.
They had a lot of ceramic stuff.
I'm going to get misty here.
And you just think, you know, like, was this little pot something they got from their mom that was passed down?
Or was it some little ceramic that their kid made?
Because that's all that's left.
It's just basically...
Ceramics, glass, and stone fireplaces and everything else and all the memories and all the effort and all the things that they've done to put in and build that house.
And some of those places will never be built again, all because of the stupidity and mismanagement of the Democrat schools that don't run things.
They just mismanage things and are too busy worrying about, as Alex Jones put it, how good they eat pussy as opposed to saving the actual people that they're supposed to be saving.
owen shroyer
You know, it's funny, too.
I can't help it.
I keep thinking about that Twister movie where it not only talks about, you know, weather control to stop tornadoes, they also have an element in that movie, too, of the, how did you refer to it, the disaster economy?
And it's like the bad guys are the ones that show up right after the tornado and buy up all the property.
unidentified
Yeah, trust me, there's going to be a lot.
And then think of, it's probably going to affect property values all around, because those people are going to have to live somewhere.
So now property values are probably going to go up, you know, which is good for if you own, but a lot of people don't.
And it's going to make things unaffordable again, because all they keep doing is importing more people, and they're not building any new houses except for these stack-and-facts.
You want to say something, Luke, before we get off?
Yeah, one of the things that I found to be, like, really impactful was, you know, talking to some of the people out there.
Last night we were in Santa Monica.
And as we were walking back to my van to leave the area, we ran into this guy who was loading up an e-bike in the back of the truck.
We were like, hey, might we talk to you for a minute?
And he's like, yeah, you know, we can talk.
But he had just picked up a friend of his, this woman, who he had just blasted through a bunch of the police barricades and went out to check on her house, and it had been destroyed.
This woman had lost her mother, like, within the last two or three weeks.
We see these things on the news and you really don't understand the gravity and how many people and how severely their lives are impacted.
I think we take it a little bit for a grain of salt.
You see this destruction, but you don't understand until you see the look in these people's eyes and you understand how much...
owen shroyer
Or you just see the actual scenes for yourself, like you two gentlemen did.
And I'm glad you made it out of there safe, guys.
I'm out of time for today.
Thank you two for calling in.
We'll see, folks.
It looks like things are dying down, and they're getting it contained, or at least it's dying down.
But the next wave of this story, maybe it'll hit tomorrow, maybe over the weekend, is going to be the devastation.
And it looks like it'll be a relatively low death count, fortunately.
But I think the current estimates they have as far as properties lost is concerned is way low.
Way low.
So, we'll take a 21-hour break and we'll do it all again tomorrow.
You stay classy, InfoWarriors.
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