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The silent majority is no longer silent. | |
| This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer. | ||
| Please stand by for further details. | ||
| We return to you now to your regularly scheduled program. | ||
| The War Room The globalist COVID tyrants are making their move again, but this time the people of the world are awake and are standing up against it. | ||
| The last five years of their criminal power grab has already blown up in their face, but they're so desperate they have no other moves to make and are trying to run the same play again. | ||
| This is going to be their Waterloo. | ||
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If we get the facts and raise the alarm to the people of the world now. - So many things can come out of this. | |
| I think the main points are we're ahead of any type of government narrative. | ||
| This came out of a laboratory that all the evidence points to that. | ||
| It's being spread by migratory waterfowl. | ||
| What happens from here, John, is very interesting. | ||
| The migratory waterfowl, don't forget, are not being culled. | ||
| So they're flying around. | ||
| What's going to happen is invariably they're going to get natural immunity. | ||
| Which is very interesting. | ||
| So if they get natural immunity, this thing could die off on its own. | ||
| The second point is that the human cases haven't been too impressive. | ||
| And unless we actually start to get really serious pulmonary cases in humans, the public's not going to be moved by this. | ||
| It's Monday, December 30th, 2024. We're only 22 days out from the inauguration of President Trump. | ||
| And right on time, as we predicted, and as the bad guys began admitting a month ago, they are rolling out the official bird flu hysteria. | ||
| Here's the good news. | ||
| People are way more aware and awake than they were five years ago, the last time they rolled out this Global Disease X in the U.N.'s own admission as a plan to set up their corporate world government and their cashless society attached to the vaccine passport system for the social credit score. | ||
| And just two weeks ago, they tried to pass the pandemic legislation in the big spending bill that mirrored the U.N. treaty that also failed this year to give them draconian powers for lockdowns, forced injections, forced masking, total liability protection for their forced masking, total liability protection for their poison shots. | ||
| That failed. | ||
| And they tried lockdowns last year, if you remember, but we got ahead of it. | ||
| And Trump said they're doing this ahead of the election to try to steal it. | ||
| So they're going to have mail-in ballots. | ||
| There was major political, cultural pressure. | ||
| They had to back off of that. | ||
| But this time, they are coming in harder than ever. | ||
| So if we expose the past fraud and the current fraud that I'm about to lay out, we don't have just a very good chance of stopping this huge psyop. | ||
| We will stop it, but this is meant to block Not just the American awakening of populism and the Great Awakening, but the global Great Awakening. | ||
| And the usual suspects are out there pushing the lies. | ||
| We're about to break it all down right now. | ||
| We have some big picture stuff coming down the pike, starting on January 21st. | ||
| Mr. Bloomberg mentioned H5N1. That I'm really worried about. | ||
| It's all over wild birds on the western part of the United States and going up in the north. | ||
| It's getting into the poultry. | ||
| You can see that they're monitoring more than 10,000 exposures, but they've only tested 530. What does that mean? | ||
| That means we're not testing enough. | ||
| And we know from other viruses that a lot of the spread can be asymptomatic. | ||
| And I think the Biden administration in the remaining days should get testing and vaccines widely available so that at least it empowers state and local health officials and clinicians to do the right thing for their patients. | ||
| All that's going to come crashing down on January 21st on the Trump administration. | ||
| We need a really, really good team to be able to handle this. | ||
| Deborah Birx, Lena Nguyen, Peter Hotez, all the usual suspects right out of Fauci's operation. | ||
| We're all over television telling us This new bird flu is here. | ||
| It could mutate any minute and just destroy us all, but don't you worry. | ||
| The Biden administration, over the last year, has spent hundreds and millions of dollars going out to all these different so-called vaccine makers, including Moderna, with an mRNA experimental gene therapy, and a whole bunch of other foreign countries are developing mRNA for the bird flu, | ||
| and that they're gonna have it ready for you, and now we have Burks and Wren and all the usual suspects saying we need emergency authorization From the FDA right now for these stockpiles of so-called vaccines they've made. | ||
| There's more than 10 different companies that I just looked up this morning that are doing it to then rush these directly untested to the public when the mainline science on its face shows that if you don't have the exact mutation of whatever they say the bird flu is going to mutate into, the shot doesn't just not protect you, but it causes what they call A leaky vaccine or accelerated evolution or mutation. | ||
| When you give people these different experimental shots, supposedly suppressing those viruses, it makes them mutate faster. | ||
| We've got scientists and experts and researchers and doctors coming on throughout the week to be talking about that on my show. | ||
| But you can just look up leaky vaccines for yourself. | ||
| It's kind of a non-threatening name. | ||
| Oh, it's just a leaky vaccine. | ||
| No, it means it makes new mutations that are worse, which is what they're warning us the bird flu is about to do. | ||
| This new H5 N1 and all the rest of this. | ||
| So any basic science, any basic research of this shows you how crazy it is. | ||
| We're about to lay out some of the history of these fear mongers, what they're doing now and how we stop them. | ||
| My main concern is that we're not going to reach herd immunity because of vaccine hesitancy. | ||
| And I know that's hard for a lot of people to believe who desperately want the vaccine right now. | ||
| And they're thinking, oh, well, it's just a small percentage of people who are actually anti-vaxxers. | ||
| And that's true. | ||
| There is the anti-science, anti-vaxxer contingent. | ||
| But I think that there are many more people, millions of people who, for whatever reason, have concerns about the vaccine, who just don't know what's in it for them. | ||
| And we need to make it clear to them that the vaccine is the ticket back to pre-pandemic life. | ||
| And the window to do that is really narrowing. | ||
| I mean, you were mentioning, Chris, about how all these states are reopening. | ||
| They're reopening at 100%. | ||
| And we have a very narrow window to tie reopening policy to vaccination status. | ||
| Because otherwise, if everything is reopened, then what's the carrot going to be? | ||
| How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine? | ||
| So that's why I think the CDC and the Biden administration needs to come out a lot bolder and say, if you're vaccinated, you can do all these things. | ||
| I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection. | ||
| And I think we overplayed the vaccine. | ||
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So I am very worried that we just don't. | |
| As a nation, we haven't made that commitment to really fully protect American people. | ||
| We caught up with internationally recognized dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor and co-director of the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development, Dr. Peter Hotez, who's traveling to get his take on the topic. | ||
| Of course, we have a likelihood that new pandemic threats, people call it disease X, are going to be rising on a regular basis. | ||
| And Dr. Hotez says disease X, the next pandemic, could hit hard whenever it arrives. | ||
| Why do you think some experts are predicting the next pandemic will make COVID-19 look like a walk in the park? | ||
| I've written about this as well. | ||
| I wrote for the Houston Chronicle a couple of months back that COVID-19 is just the warm-up act. | ||
| The next pandemic may not be as severe, but it could be much more severe. | ||
| You cannot make the conclusion that the vaccine will do better than natural infection, although it can often do slightly better. | ||
| But I think that's, I mean, you're an expert, you were on the task force, you were part of this effort when you were in the previous administration, and you're saying in this administration that you can't rule out the fact that our government was lying to us when they told us the vaccinated could not get the virus. | ||
| I don't know about their discussions that they had in the task force. | ||
| So I can't tell you that. | ||
| I can tell you as a family member who had individuals that were susceptible, of course we got everybody vaccinated. | ||
| But we still use layered protection during surges because I knew potentially the vaccine immunity would wane like natural immunity waned. | ||
| And there was evidence that every four months, reinfection was occurring in South Africa. | ||
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Wow. | |
| When the government told us that the vaccine, it couldn't transmit it, was that a lie or was that a guess? | ||
| Or is it the same answer? | ||
| I think it was hope. | ||
| That the vaccine would work in that way. | ||
| And that's why I think scientists and public health leaders always have to be at the table, being very clear what we know and what we don't know. | ||
| This is important for the country to know. | ||
| So when I asked the question, when the government told us that the vaccinated couldn't get it, and I asked you if it was a guess or a lie, you said you don't know. | ||
| You said you think it was hope. | ||
| So what we do know is it wasn't the truth. | ||
| So they were either guessing, lying, or hoping, and communicating that information to the to the citizens of this country I think they were hoping, but you should know in those original phase 3 trials that were done in this country, that we only measured for symptomatic disease. | ||
| So we weren't proactively testing everybody in those trials to see if they got infected with mild or asymptomatic disease. | ||
| And so people had to present within the clinical trial. | ||
| So we never had the data that it was going to protect against asymptomatic infection. | ||
| I'm just struck with the irony. | ||
| Government agencies guessing, hoping, or lying with the information they're presenting to the American people. | ||
| And this is the same administration that wants to set up the Disinformation Governance Board and wants to talk about misinformation. | ||
| And they're the biggest purveyors of misinformation, false information, hopeful information, but not accurate and true information. | ||
| Don't forget! | ||
| This point's got to be made over and over again. | ||
| Just two weeks ago, they tried in the big spending bill to add Draconian civil emergency martial law provisions for a new pandemic and tens of billions of dollars more to fund their operations. | ||
| That failed because the public is awake and because Trump supporters and Elon Musk and our listeners and others put pressure on them and shot down the legislation. | ||
| The UN Global Treaty has failed. | ||
| They've come out and said, don't worry, a new pandemic's coming, Bill Gates, Hotez, all of them, and that will teach you to get in line and do what they say. | ||
| What did Trump do last year when I raised the alarm, when this great audience of activists raised the alarm, about them trying to roll out the M-pox, the new monkey pox, the bird for the rest of it. | ||
| We said, we've got to get ahead of this and expose it. | ||
| Trump came out and said, they're doing this so they can have mail-in ballots coming up the election. | ||
| We exposed it. | ||
| It failed. | ||
| So we attacked the PCR test that's a fraud. | ||
| Notice Berks was on national TV saying we've got to have the PCR test. | ||
| You know, we've got to create the fear. | ||
| We've got to go out and test people and claim it's jumped to humans. | ||
| It's preposterous how obvious All of this is. | ||
| And that's why I've said they've got to go to prison, not just for the millions that died from the poison shot, the millions that died around the world for lack of medical care, but so this same group of criminals can't do this again. | ||
| The UN documents came out decades ago that they would use the threat of a pandemic to bring in world government and have it six feet apart and wearing masks and forced injections and quarantine centers, and they've built Under UN auspices, all these emergency pandemic camps around the world, this is their smokescreen for global totalitarianism to stop the global awakening. | ||
| So we don't just call for saying no to this new hysteria and fear and stopping the new emergencies is declaring. | ||
| We also demand prosecution of Fauci and the rest of them, and their whole house of cards will collapse. | ||
| It's us or them. | ||
| We have some big picture stuff coming down the pike starting on January 21st. | ||
| Mr. Bloomberg mentioned H5N1. That I'm really worried about. | ||
| It's all over wild birds on the western part of the United States and going up in the north. | ||
| It's getting into the poultry. | ||
| We're seeing sporadic human cases. | ||
| No human-to-human transmission yet, but that could happen. | ||
| It's in the cattle. | ||
| It's in the milk. | ||
| And that's just the beginning. | ||
| We have another major coronavirus likely brewing in Asia. | ||
| We've had SARS in 2002, SARS-2, COVID-19 in 2019. And we know these viruses are jumping from bats to people thousands of times a year. | ||
| But there's still more. | ||
| We know that we have a big problem with mosquito-transmitted viruses all along the Gulf Coast, where I am here in Texas, or expecting dengue and possibly Zika virus coming back, or Apuche virus. | ||
| Maybe even yellow fever. | ||
| And there's more. | ||
| Then we have all this sharp rise in vaccine-preventable diseases going up because of, in part, the anti-vaccine activism that's so prominent right now. | ||
| We have a five-fold rise in pertussis cases, whooping cough over the last year, 15 measles outbreaks this year. | ||
| We've got polio that's been in the wastewater in New York State. | ||
| All that's going to come crashing down on January 21st on the Trump administration. | ||
| We need a really, really good team to be able to handle this. | ||
| Vaccine driven viral evolution or the common term leaky vaccine. | ||
| That's the most important point. | ||
| More important than the fact that the globalists admitted they'd use these viruses to take full control. | ||
| Even more important than them being caught in all these previous lies and being total frauds in their own documents coming out, not just here, but around the world, health agencies coordinating to hype, fear, lie to the public, not treat people sick from other viruses so they die to add to those death numbers. | ||
| That's all key. | ||
| But most important is the fact that you give people During the big virus season, during winter, a bunch of experimental shots. | ||
| It is on record that it causes not just the virus they're targeting, but many other coronaviruses, flu viruses, you name it, to be put under pressure in the body. | ||
| And then that causes these dangerous mutations, which they're telling us is about to happen and make it jump into humans even easier. | ||
| So why would you then have... | ||
| 10 companies in the US, dozens around the world, so many I can't even count them all, all coming out with their own bird flu shots, but having no idea what it's about to mutate into unless they already have it on the shelf at these bioweapon labs like EcoHealth Alliance and others, so that when the new variant shows up, don't worry, they've already got the so-called vaccine on the shelf. | ||
| This is really important information. | ||
| We've got scientists, doctors, researchers coming on today and throughout the week on my show. | ||
| Follow us at RealAlexJones as we break this down. | ||
| But it's really important to attack the credibility of these people and to point out the science. | ||
| Science is about asking questions, not about Fauci saying, I am the science. | ||
| Don't ask questions. | ||
| This is a globalist eugenics death cult led by Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab that wants to depopulate the earth and wants full control over our bodies. | ||
| This is an existential threat to everyone, and these criminals must go down before they release the next manufactured virus. | ||
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What should be happening in the Biden administration right now that isn't going on? | |
| Yeah, there are two main things that they should be doing in the days that they have left. | ||
| The first is to get testing out there. | ||
| I feel like we should have learned our lesson from COVID that just because we aren't testing, it doesn't mean that the virus isn't there. | ||
| It just means that we aren't looking for it. | ||
| We should be having rapid tests, home tests available to all farm workers, to their families, for the clinicians taking care of them so that we aren't waiting for public labs and CDC labs to tell us what's bird flu or not. | ||
| And the second very important thing is this is not like the beginning of COVID where we were dealing with a new virus. | ||
| We didn't have a vaccine. | ||
| There actually is a vaccine developed already against H5N1. The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers to make almost 5 million doses of the vaccine. | ||
| However, they have not asked the FDA to authorize the vaccine. | ||
| There's research done on it. | ||
| They could get this authorized now and also get the vaccine out and to farm workers and to vulnerable people. | ||
| I think that's the right approach because we don't know what the Trump administration is going to be doing around bird flu. | ||
| If they have people coming in with anti-vaccine stances, could they hold up vaccine authorization? | ||
| If they don't want to know how much bird flu is out there, could they withhold testing? | ||
| I mean, that's a possibility. | ||
| To me, the spring and the summer where we had all of the dairy cattle to farm worker exposure, we didn't have human flu circulating. | ||
| So now we're entering a much more dangerous period, yet we're still not testing. | ||
| And we should be providing tests free of charge to dairy farm workers so they can test anonymously weekly because they'll want to know if they have both cases of potential flu co-circulating in their own body to protect their families. | ||
| People are very smart. | ||
| I find the American public to be incredibly smart. | ||
| If you tell them the risk and you give them the tools, They will utilize them to protect themselves and their family. | ||
| We told you that the globalists were gonna launch a new plandemic, a new psychological warfare operation, a new hysteria. | ||
| President Trump needs to get out ahead of this right now. | ||
| He needs to expose these frauds. | ||
| It is meant to kill the economy again. | ||
| It is meant to take control of not just America's political policies, but the world's. | ||
| This is the big move. | ||
| Do you want the masks back on the kids? | ||
| Do you want the lockdowns? | ||
| Do you want them to have all these COVID centers around the world, not just filled with people they claim failed a PCR test, but political dissidents. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| Schmidt, the head of Alphabet, of Google, has come out and said he wants NATO and the UN to censor and arrest people during the next pandemic. | ||
| He said that a few months ago at Stanford. | ||
| They are gearing up. | ||
| They are making their move. | ||
| This is the big assault. | ||
| This is their plan to derail the great awakening and continue their great reset. | ||
| President Trump must come out and speak out against this now, but regardless of what he does, we have to come out and speak out about it right now and expose these criminals. | ||
| Remember the horses running over people in Australia, Germany, Canada, who were out protesting the lockdowns. | ||
| Remember all the tyranny. | ||
| Remember the children cheering when they finally took the mask off. | ||
| Remember the third world collapsing and tens of millions starving to death, not from the virus, but from the lockdowns from the virus. | ||
| This is global government trying to take over our lives with the fear of a virus. | ||
| Then their response are these poison shots that destroy our immune systems. | ||
| This is globalist tyranny. | ||
| This is phase two of their genocide. | ||
| And we the people in the information war with the truth must rally with the facts and stop them now. | ||
| It's us or them. | ||
| Should there be a federal mask mandate? | ||
| Yeah, at this point, there absolutely should be that mandate because we know that if all of us wear masks, we reduce the chance of transmitting or acquiring COVID-19 by five times. | ||
| There is a real danger when we politicize science. | ||
| That public trust is broken when we are politicizing science instead of following scientific process. | ||
| My kids are not eligible to be vaccinated. | ||
| It's not that I don't want them to be vaccinated. | ||
| It's that they can't be. | ||
| And I do really worry. | ||
| I have an almost four-year-old and a one-year-old. | ||
| I cannot wait until they're eligible to receive the vaccine. | ||
| I think until then, mask wearing for kids, especially if we are living in high transmission areas, is still going to be important. | ||
| And what we really need to do at this point is to make vaccination the easy choice. | ||
| It needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated. | ||
| We wouldn't imagine bringing together 20, 30 unvaccinated adults, putting them in a single room together the entire day and have them not wear masks. | ||
| Why would we say that that's okay for our children? | ||
| Travel and having the right to travel interstate, it's not a constitutional right, as far as I know, to board a plane. | ||
| And so saying that if you want to stay unvaccinated, that's your choice. | ||
| But if you want to travel, you better go get that vaccine. | ||
| I agree that masks are a very powerful layer of protection, but it's one layer. | ||
| And if we have so many other layers that are present, masking may be one that could go away. | ||
| But we are nowhere near that yet, and I think what we really need to do is get the vaccines authorized for children as soon as that's possible. | ||
| There is no evidence whatsoever for any other vaccine causing long-term consequences. | ||
| We really should be a lot more worried about the virus and the short-term as well as long-term consequences on our children as opposed to the vaccine. | ||
| Make sure that you're wearing a mask even though it's outdoors if there are lots of people packed around you. | ||
| Wearing a three-ply surgical mask, don't wear a cloth mask. | ||
| Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. | ||
| There actually is a harm that we should be discussing of children continuing to mask. | ||
| We should also be intellectually honest and say that masking has had a cost, especially for the youngest learners, so the risk-benefit calculation has really changed. | ||
| I'm the mom of two little kids under five. | ||
| I can't wait until they are vaccinated, but I would wait until we find that the vaccines are safe and effective. | ||
| And I'm not sure that we can say that at the moment because we just don't have the data. | ||
| But I also think that other parents would want to wait until we know that three doses will produce the intended effect. | ||
| I'm not saying, I don't think anyone really is saying that no one should ever wear masks, but rather that the responsibility should shift from a government mandate imposed from the state or the local district of the school. | ||
| Rather, it should shift to an individual responsibility by the family. | ||
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The Oscar winners give a press conference and how to buy a sailboat. | |
| I guess my feeling at this point in time is maybe we need to be completely a little bit more scary for the public. | ||
| Especially with the Delta variant, which is the hardiest and most contagious variant we've seen to date. | ||
| We need all the protection that we can get. | ||
| That's why the vaccines are so effective. | ||
| This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. | ||
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We've got to get them vaccinated, and hopefully they will do it willingly. | |
| I think we really need to make it clear that there are privileges associated with being an American. | ||
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We have to be more hot, we have to be more forest folk. | |
| If you do not want to get vaccinated, you can work from home, you can homeschool your children, you can shop online. | ||
| So where is this coming from, people saying, I'm now being forced to be vaccinated? | ||
| If you want to travel, you better go get that vaccine. | ||
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You should be wearing masks even when you are vaccinated, if you are indoors. | |
| If you wish to have these privileges, you need to get vaccinated. | ||
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We have to say something coming out, you know, you don't get vaccinated, you know you're going to die. | |
| I mean, let's just be really blunt to these people. | ||
| Get vaccinated. | ||
| Get vaccinated, get vaccinated. | ||
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Get vaccinated, get vaccinated. get vaccinated. | |
| You've always thought you couldn't wear press-on nails because of all the active things you do? | ||
| Pre-colored in seven luscious hues. | ||
| Just... | ||
| Our impulses are being redirected. | ||
| We are living in an artificially induced state of consciousness that resembles sleep. | ||
| These signals being sent through time. | ||
| There is a war on for your mind. | ||
| Our signal has reached more than two billion people. | ||
| But the enemy is now aware of the fact that we've broken through and are moving to block us on every front. | ||
| The only way you're going to be able to see our videos and articles is to visit Infowars.com itself and hand share the videos and articles to everyone you know. | ||
| The signal is getting through and is exposing and defeating the globalists when we're able to get it through. | ||
| But they're admittedly expanding their operations to suppress us so only you can boost the signal. | ||
| Only you can defeat the globalist. | ||
| We're in this together. | ||
| I salute you for your work, and I ask all of you to redouble your efforts. | ||
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If you are receiving this transmission, you are part of the systems. | |
| If I were the devil, if I were the prince of deception, I'd want to shroud the world in unyielding darkness. | ||
| I'd seize control over the lands and masses, but I wouldn't be satisfied until I had quashed the boldest voice of truth, InfoWars. | ||
| So I'd work meticulously to control the world. | ||
| I'd target platforms like InfoWars first. | ||
| I'd initiate a campaign of silence. | ||
| With the subtlety of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve, believe only what you're told. | ||
| To the young I would whisper, InfoWars is a fake news conspiracy theory network. | ||
| I would convince them that man needs no alternate perspectives, no dissenting voices, no questions against the status quo. | ||
| I would assure them that InfoWars is false, and what's approved is true. | ||
| And the old I would teach to say after me, our father which art in censorship. | ||
| If I were the devil, I'd soon have people at war with InfoWars, platforms at war with free speech, and nations at war with freedom of thought, until each in its turn was uniform. | ||
| If I were the devil, I would undermine platforms like Infowars from being a refuge for the inquisitive until before you knew it, you'd have suppression and censorship at every door. | ||
| Soon, I'd have unity and misinformation. | ||
| I'd have influential figures promoting a single narrative. | ||
| Soon, I could evict Infowars from social media, then from search engines, and then from the homes of patriots. | ||
| I would lure society into believing only one perspective. | ||
| Good afternoon, everyone. | ||
| I am your guest host, Maria Z of Zmedia.com, filling in for the legendary Owen Schroyer today, probably tomorrow as well, if all goes to plan. | ||
| And boy, oh boy, do we have a lot to talk about today. | ||
| Tomorrow we're going to do a bit of an end of year wrap up, but today we have some heavy stuff to talk about. | ||
| And the reason that we have heavy stuff to talk about is because of everything that's gone on over the past week during the Christmas break. | ||
| While a lot of people have been trying to have a bit of time off from social media, a lot of us have been roped back into the battle. | ||
| And it's been a battle that has been very interesting to watch indeed. | ||
| Obviously, this all started with the H-1B visa debate, but then it grew into something much bigger and, I think, much more dangerous. | ||
| And we're going to talk about all of that today. | ||
| We've got a special guest coming up in about half an hour. | ||
| And then in the final hour, I'm going to try and get to some calls about all of this. | ||
| But I want to sort of address this head on and really... | ||
| The thing that I find surprising is that there's been a bit of, you know, discussion about anyone who's sort of got differing opinions being responsible for causing division within MAGA or the conservative movement. | ||
| And I find that really, really bizarre because conservatives... | ||
| Our ethos is to be free thinkers. | ||
| It is, whether you want to call it MAGA, right-wing, conservatives, whatever label you want to put on it, I'm just going to call it conservatives or freedom-loving people, which is generally associated with conservatism, okay? | ||
| The people that fall into this category are free thinkers. | ||
| And it's actually one of the most beautiful things about the conservative movement or people, if you will. | ||
| The fact that we generally think for ourselves, we tend to not be herded as easily as other people, and that is one of the best things about us. | ||
| But what it also means is that we can be rebellious, we can be contrarian, we can be all of these things because we think for ourselves. | ||
| And so to call people that are disagreeing with one another, which is something that's healthy and we're all supposed to do all of the time, and by the way, always have done, to accuse them of being responsible for division, I think is really ridiculous. | ||
| Um That's what conservatives do. | ||
| If you look at a conservative family, they'll argue and they'll have a fight over the Christmas dinner table and by the end of the night or the next day, they're back to, you know, being just family. | ||
| This happens with our friends. | ||
| How many times as conservatives do you have heated debates with your friends and because you're not snowflakes, you're able to just handle it and move on and that's what makes real friendships. | ||
| We're not like... | ||
| Liberal families, if I can put a label on it, I'm really starting to hate that left-right paradigm or the labels, but let's just do it for the sake of this conversation where they will cut off their family members because of who they voted for or cut off their family members because they didn't go and get an experimental injection. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| That's not generally a conservative trait. | ||
| I'm sure there's some exceptions out there, but it's generally not a conservative trait. | ||
| In fact, they'll try and still talk to that family member. | ||
| They'll try and still make their point with that family member and try and help them along and try to still love them. | ||
| And to be rejecting people that are arguing within your own space or movement is not a conservative value. | ||
| So I'm very, very, you know, alarmed and disturbed by some of the people that I've seen over the past week saying, you know, we're going to root these people out, like Elon said, or, you know, some other massive conservative accounts saying this is just people causing division. | ||
| I'm also personally very insulted by people saying that some accounts have claimed that this was a Russian bot operation or a leftist op to divide the conservative movement. | ||
| That's provably untrue, considering that there are many people who've been contributing to this fight for a very long time, who have good reputations, and one of them is going to be joining me in about 20 minutes. | ||
| Who have, you know, reputations known for being lovers of freedom, lovers of good values, and to be lumped into a category of leftists or Russian bots or Russian ops or whatever the case may be. | ||
| That's like a CNN tactic or accusation. | ||
| And I really, really don't... | ||
| I don't take kindly to those tactics. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| It's not... | ||
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| And when I say us, I mean conservatives. | ||
| And conservatives all around the world share the same values, by the way. | ||
| We love freedom. | ||
| We don't want to be herded into a technocracy. | ||
| We don't want Agenda 2030. We don't want caps on how much meat we can eat or how much dairy we can consume or how far we can travel. | ||
| We certainly don't want any more mandates. | ||
| We don't want experimental injections and we don't want people to keep dying from these shots. | ||
| In the past 30 minutes, if you were tuned in, you would have seen that report From Alex and the mainstream media talking about how they're now trying to launch this bird flu pandemic ahead of Trump's inauguration. | ||
| And they're launching everything they possibly can. | ||
| They're trying to increase the global destabilisation, wars, whatever the case may be, before Jan 20, before the man even has a chance. | ||
| To prove himself to the people that elected him before the man even has a chance to do positive things for the country, even though he's trying to do some things now and have conversations now and so on and so forth. | ||
| But he's not officially the president yet, right? | ||
| So this is... | ||
| Liana Nguyen, yeah, sparks uproar, calling for a bird flu vaccine. | ||
| Let's inject everyone that we possibly can because the anti-vaxxers are going to... | ||
| You know, I mean, this is... | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| It's not really unexpected, if I'm honest. | ||
| And now more than ever, the voice of the people matters. | ||
| And having the ability to speak freely matters. | ||
| And I'm very, very concerned about people's ability to speak freely based on what I've seen over the past week. | ||
| And so I want to talk about that and I want to talk about that as honestly as I possibly can. | ||
| I have... | ||
| I can be cynical and I have been a huge critic of certain characters at the same time giving them props where it's necessary. | ||
| For example, Harvey MLA... As part of his presidential campaign, promised that he was going to exit Argentina out of the Paris Agreement. | ||
| He campaigned on climate change being a farce. | ||
| And then day one, during his inauguration, sent a representative to the climate conference in Dubai to say, no, no, don't worry, Argentina's still on board. | ||
| I saw that as absolute treacherous betrayal of the people of Argentina, and I said so quite vocally. | ||
| I find people that backflip in that manner to be untrustworthy people. | ||
| But recently, Javier Malay said, and by the way, that immediately made me not trust him because if you've campaigned on climate change being BS and then you go and you, during your inauguration, send someone to say, don't worry, we're all for it, that is a problem and that is a betrayal. | ||
| And so I will call that out. | ||
| But recently he said that he's going to exit Argentina out of the Paris Climate Accord. | ||
| And so I immediately, as soon as I heard that, gave him props and said, I still think it's a very serious problem that he didn't do it, you know, when he said he would, and in fact backflipped on it, but props to him for doing it. | ||
| And I'll do the same thing when it comes to Elon Musk. | ||
| And I want to be clear here. | ||
| That this isn't an Elon bash, but it is absolutely a conversation about accountability, double standards and hypocrisy that I think really needs to be had when we have so many dangerous things facing us, facing America, facing the whole world and what happens here affects the whole world. | ||
| So in 2022, and crew, if you've got that tweet, it's picture number two, Musk tweets, I hope that even my worst critics remain on Twitter because that is what free speech means. | ||
| And I believe that he meant that because he started letting on, he brought back a lot of people that were previously banned. | ||
| Alex being one of them. | ||
| And Elon, of course, had a misunderstanding about the reason why Alex was banned. | ||
| And when he realised, he brought him back. | ||
| And that's been fantastic. | ||
| It's amplified the ability of Infowars, or it's helped Infowars amplify their voice in the public square, which is very much needed. | ||
| Infowars is, in my experience, and always has been, I've never been told what I can and can't say here, always free speech is welcome at this place, which is why Infowars is crucial, crucial now, and it's going to be over the next four years. | ||
| It's going to be in general, right? | ||
| Because we need free speech platforms. | ||
| And then in 2024, again, Elon in April of 2024 says, So we really do have to give him props for things like that. | ||
| That is a demonstration of free speech. | ||
| That is a demonstration of when you say you have a free speech platform, actually demonstrating that it is a free speech platform. | ||
| But I will be honest with you that I can't in good conscience call X a free speech platform. | ||
| And the reason for that is purely by Linda Iaccarino's own words. | ||
| You have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. | ||
| And that is not actually free speech. | ||
| What that actually is, is purely, simply 150% called censorship. | ||
| Because that is a way to say, if you say things that the platform either deems deplorable or if you say things that we don't like, you will be censored in the sense that less people will be able to see your information. | ||
| So that is an admission from the platform's CEO herself, that there is censorship on X. So I cannot call this a free speech platform. | ||
| I've mostly referred to it as a somewhat free speech platform. | ||
| And so I think it's very important to make that distinction because when you are standing in a town square and you have a muzzle on and only some people around you can hear your muffled words and not everyone can hear them, that's not actually free speech, right? | ||
| And a lot of people, including myself, have experienced this form of censorship on X. Elon says there is no shadow banning on this platform now. | ||
| Well, no, they call it something else. | ||
| They call it limiting reach, right? | ||
| So we can't just pretend that the CEO herself hasn't said these words. | ||
| And by the same token, go forward with what Elon and the platform bills itself as, as a free speech platform, when the CEO herself has said, well, actually, it's not a free speech platform. | ||
| I think that's a very important distinction to make. | ||
| And we need to, as a collective, figure out exactly what... | ||
| The free speech limitations on X are when we have things like a potential pandemic, another one, or whatever the case may be, whatever threats are coming our way, and there will be many, because, you know, the New World Order doesn't just give up because one guy won. | ||
| It doesn't work like that. | ||
| We all understand that. | ||
| And so initially we had some really, really fantastic moves from Elon in the realm of opening up more free speech. | ||
| I can definitely give him credit for that. | ||
| Definitely more free speech in the beginning, for sure. | ||
| But in the past week, it seems that that principle that he had of, you know, you can have deplorable speech and the principle that X had, you know, you can have speech that we don't like, really was put to the challenge and ultimately X failed. | ||
| And that is what it definitely seems like. | ||
| And I'm going to provide you with some evidence of that and you can make up your own mind. | ||
| So it really started with, you know, people opposing this H-1B visa expansion, which was initiated by the big tech guys, right? | ||
| It's not like it came out of nowhere. | ||
| And people are saying, well, we have this mass immigration, illegal immigration issue. | ||
| Why are we even talking now about more immigration legal or illegal when we do have this issue? | ||
| Can this be something that's discussed later? | ||
| Then other people are completely opposed to it altogether. | ||
| And I mean, we'll talk about all of those nuances with my guest, but the point is that Elon himself started referring, started to insult people and refer to them as, for example, contemptible fools and saying that they must be removed from the Republican Party root and stem. | ||
| Okay, well, he's entitled to say that. | ||
| He's entitled to those opinions. | ||
| But now we've started turning on the real right wing. | ||
| That says, well, no, this is actually something that we don't want. | ||
| And it was okay for all of these people to have their voices amplified on the platform and be part of the discussion while they were cheering Elon and Trump on. | ||
| But now that they've started to challenge him, his tune has changed. | ||
| And of course we've had here, he responds again, the contemptible fools I'm referring to are those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| What do you define as a racist? | ||
| Because my definition of racism and your definition of racism may be very different and really we don't have a clear definition. | ||
| So now we're again in the grey area of what does the owner of this platform, who by the way it is his platform, it's a private platform and it's not just Elon making all of these decisions, to attribute all of this to Elon would really be naive. | ||
| Because he's not sitting there moderating the entirety of X. No one single person is, I don't think. | ||
| Is it his AI that he's programmed? | ||
| Is it someone else's AI? How much input did he have in that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But there is moderation and censorship on X and we need more clarity around it. | ||
| And so he says that all of these hateful, unrepentant racists, and again, we don't know who these people are, but judging by the people that have actually really been censored on X this week, Owen Schroer being one of the people that had their blue ticks removed, is he in the category of an unrepentant, hateful racist as far as Elon and X are concerned? | ||
| Because I know Owen and he's not a hateful, unrepentant racist. | ||
| You know, maybe people closer to him could add to that, but the interactions that I've had with Owen over the years, he's not those things. | ||
| But he has been penalised on the platform. | ||
| And we see then this particular tweet from Elon, which was the reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. I'd like to say from the outset, I believe that that is actually not true. | ||
| From what I understand, Elon arrived here on a student visa, so that's concerning that he's claiming that he's here because of H-1B, but anyway, that's a side note. | ||
| Take a big step back and F, excuse me, team, that's the full word there, F yourself in the face. | ||
| I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. | ||
| And this is really the tweet from Elon that got people very concerned, and rightly so, by the way. | ||
| Everyone is entitled to have a spat. | ||
| Everyone is entitled to be out of line. | ||
| Sometimes it certainly happened with me. | ||
| People held me accountable for it and at times I've had to retract or, you know, adjust my messaging in line with... | ||
| The accountability that came from the people and that's expected and it's a good thing and it's good for people that have a public profile to be humble enough to, you know, come out when they've done the wrong thing. | ||
| But what happened instead was that an insult was made, and to be honest with you, I find it very unbecoming of someone who's about to be placed in charge of a Department of Government efficiency, making the government run more efficiently, to be telling, like in capitals, telling people to F themselves in the face. | ||
| I think that that's not conducive with a character that's about to be responsible for making an entire country's government run more efficiently. | ||
| It's actually very concerning that someone can't control themselves a little bit better. | ||
| And maybe he needs to undergo some training in controlling himself a little bit better before he's given responsibility of that role. | ||
| And he says then, he threatens then, that he's going to go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. | ||
| Now, recently there was a conversation around the spending bill and Fox News and many other media outlets attributed Elon Musk's ability to speak out against this platform and, And in fact, the fact that the initial, you know, this big bill, which was atrocious, by the way, and there was horrendous things in there, but they attributed the success of that not going through to Elon Musk. | ||
| And everyone was cheering at the time. | ||
| And my thoughts, and I think it was Dominic Trippi that responded in there, and I had the same thoughts, was what happens when he does something we don't like? | ||
| What happens when he holds an opinion that differs from the majority of the conservative movement? | ||
| Well, we saw what happens this week. | ||
| And if we don't talk about this and be honest about it, I'm concerned we'll see that again, especially with some of the things that Elon believes in, like carbon taxes. | ||
| He's said in the past he thinks that the way forward is carbon taxes. | ||
| I'm very concerned that when that debate comes up and it eventually will... | ||
| That we'll have a repeat of this. | ||
| So if we're not honest about the censorship that's happened this week over H-1B, we're not going to be able to control this problem in future. | ||
| And so, team, if you want to show an overhead right now, this is a whole stack of accounts that were suspended. | ||
| And I understand that there was an affiliation with a particular group, a conservative, what was it, Conservative OG for some of these people. | ||
| But there were also people that seemed to not be affiliated with that account. | ||
| And the only thing that we can see is that all of these people were critical of H-1B or affiliated with people who were. | ||
| And there's another example that I found. | ||
| This person, Tom Hennessey, who I don't know, but he's claiming that his blue check and premium account was taken away or cancelled around 9pm after he challenged Elon and apparently eventually he ratioed Elon. | ||
| And he says, I remember when you said demographics is destiny and he's put a picture here, which, you know, this is how the guy feels, replacing Americans legally. | ||
| And Elon has responded to something else that he said, saying, where did I lie, liar? | ||
| And apparently, Tom says, apparently I ratioed Elon twice yesterday. | ||
| I had no affiliations and I've never been monetized. | ||
| I paid for X premium. | ||
| Elon cancelled all of it. | ||
| And this is when, you know, he's posting about... | ||
| Oh, so this is the tweet where he said, why did he lie? | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| So he's challenging Elon. | ||
| Yes, it's combative. | ||
| Yes, you know, obviously you have to be deeply involved in this discussion to understand what point this guy's making. | ||
| The fact that we're bringing in the top of the top, the cream of the cream, you know, and really what we are, you know, bringing in It's not only the top of the top, but also cashiers to work at 7-Eleven for $24,000 base salary. | ||
| So it's not just the top of the top. | ||
| The whole point is that there is an abuse of this visa program. | ||
| And now this critic who's ratioed Elon Musk specifically has had his blue checkmark removed. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that is problematic. | ||
| And the blue checkmark was removed around the time that he ratioed Elon. | ||
| And we have Owen Troyer. | ||
| And I don't know if he's posted since this last post on his page. | ||
| It says, it's now been two days since I lost my verification badge and premium. | ||
| Still no explanation or email from X. He says, check this out. | ||
| Didn't post over Christmas, then had some of the biggest impressions on H1B visa debate. | ||
| Notice what happened as soon as I got censored. | ||
| Censorship works. | ||
| And you can see his reach. | ||
| You can see he wasn't really posting that much over Christmas. | ||
| Then he posted on the debate huge, you know, 2.4 million impressions here. | ||
| And then as soon as he got his blue checkmark removed, his impressions have gone down. | ||
| And so Laura Loomer also reports experiencing a similar phenomenon where your blue checkmark is removed, all of a sudden your reach goes down. | ||
| So it is a form of punishment. | ||
| And actually what it is, is collective punishment. | ||
| So when we're talking about people, just people who are associated with people that have been critical on this issue, also being collectively punished, having their reach reduced, also being demonetised, Laura Looma having her subscriptions cancelled for her, that's actually indicative of a social credit system style punishment. | ||
| Which is very concerning. | ||
| It is very concerning to be collectively punishing people who are in disagreement. | ||
| And then we also have this example from Laura Looma. | ||
| She says, so now Elon Musk, and she's blaming Elon specifically because I think him and her had a bit of a spat, is also categorising all my posts as probable spam. | ||
| This is an abuse of power. | ||
| It's un-American. | ||
| It's anti-free speech. | ||
| And the market base needs to demand respect and end to this totalitarian conduct. | ||
| And you can see here on this post... | ||
| A little bit further down, it actually is coming up with these show probable spam flags. | ||
| Now, I can tell you that almost since I joined X, I've been getting these show probable spam flags on my posts, and what happens is as soon as they come up, Uh, you, your reach is automatically drastically reduced. | ||
| For example, I just put up a post a bit earlier today and I'll talk about that in a moment as well. | ||
| But as soon as I posted it, it was immediately hit with a show probable spam. | ||
| And my reach on that post, I think was under 2000 and I have over 130,000 followers on my ex. | ||
| So that's not normal. | ||
| It's not organic. | ||
| Now I will say that one of the people, in fact, I'll show you the, um, Well, after the break. | ||
| We'll quickly go over this after the break before our guest Elijah Schaefer joins us. | ||
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| Welcome back. | ||
| Okay, my guest Elijah Schaefer is going to be joining us in about five minutes, but very quickly I want to finish the point I was making before the break. | ||
| So I've heard a lot of people make the argument that Laura Loomer was actually... | ||
| penalized because she doxed someone now I've read the ex terms of service in the past around doxing just to get a better understanding of this to the best of my knowledge unless something has changed unless it is a public something that is not already publicly available information then it's then it's doxing If it is publicly available information, it's not actually doxing. | ||
| And so what Laura Loomer did was posted an FEC filing, which is publicly available information. | ||
| Now, I'll tell you something that did happen on X recently. | ||
| The ADL actually doxed someone. | ||
| And I wanted to show you the post that's still up on X. But it's a bit of a conundrum for me because if I show you, then I'm actually pointing you to the docs and I don't want to amplify the docs, right? | ||
| But the ADL recently doxed an anonymous account on X because they deemed him to be an anti-Semite and so therefore they're allowed to just dox people left, right and centre. | ||
| And X did not remove that dox. | ||
| I reported it. | ||
| I know a lot of other people did as well because doxing is against the terms of service, but that was not reported. | ||
| Sorry, it was not taken down. | ||
| It's still up there. | ||
| I checked right before I started the broadcast. | ||
| You know who else was doxxed recently on X? Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Nick Fuentes had his address publicly posted to the X platform. | ||
| I don't know if it's still there. | ||
| I checked a few days ago. | ||
| The last time that I checked, there was a post with his address that had 12 million views. | ||
| And that led to, we learned recently, several, several visits to his home, intimidation, threats and most recently as serious as an attempted assassination. | ||
| So we're talking about people that are seen as controversial characters? | ||
| Are we allowed to dox those people? | ||
| X isn't quick to take action on those things. | ||
| Maybe X missed that. | ||
| But they didn't miss it when Laura Loomer posted publicly available information... | ||
| Which then she was penalised for, which is not actually, as far as I'm aware, is not a violation of the terms of service. | ||
| They were onto that like that. | ||
| So I don't really buy that after 12 million views of Nick Fuentes' address, that X can't get onto that, but they can get onto Laura Looma like that. | ||
| And by the way, I'm talking now from a principled perspective. | ||
| Whether I actually agree with a lot of these individuals or I don't, my position is going to be the same, that there is hypocrisy, there are double standards... | ||
| And we have no clarity around what those double standards are. | ||
| We still don't understand why Owen Troyer hasn't gotten his blue teak back. | ||
| Maybe there's some sort of a misunderstanding. | ||
| But as he says, he's had no clarification from the X platform as to why it's happened. | ||
| And his reach has definitely been impacted. | ||
| Now, people could say, well, it's a private platform and they can do whatever they want. | ||
| OK, people pay for that blue checkmark. | ||
| People pay for that blue checkmark. | ||
| Therefore, there's a service that's been promised to them as part of that blue checkmark. | ||
| So what happens now? | ||
| Do people collectively get together, get a class action lawsuit going for the fact that they're repeatedly not getting the service that they've been told they'll get? | ||
| I mean, what would happen if you had a Netflix subscription and every single day that subscription wasn't working and you had no explanation as to why? | ||
| Because that's essentially what's happening here. | ||
| People are not being given a reason as to why they're not given access to the service that they've paid for. | ||
| And there's a serious problem here. | ||
| And again, like I said just before, we have a number of different threats. | ||
| The bird flu, the spraying, the potential release of bioweapons, more bioweapon injections. | ||
| God knows what else. | ||
| And if we can't be confident that we can have these conversations without being censored because it's upset someone... | ||
| Which looks like what's happened here. | ||
| Well, how can we actually be certain we're going to win future battles? | ||
| And that is my very, very real concern. | ||
| Elijah Schaefer joins me after this short break to discuss all of this and more. | ||
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My guest is joining me right now, Elijah Schaefer. | |
| You can find him on X at Elijah Schaefer. | ||
| And he contributes to multiple other platforms, hosts his own show. | ||
| And I'm very, very excited to have this discussion today because for a number of reasons, I really like his takes. | ||
| I want to hear from all sides. | ||
| And I'm concerned that people are not actually hearing from all sides on the X platform. | ||
| Elijah, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We appreciate you being here. | ||
| Thank you for inviting me. | ||
| I will let you know too, by the way, I'm already a step ahead of you. | ||
| I brought my Quran because I'm training to be a new American. | ||
| In the future, you'll have two options, Hinduism or Islam, depending on what country you're in. | ||
| So I've already accepted the great replacement and I just want to let you know that I'm always two steps ahead. | ||
| Well, slightly offensive. | ||
| True to the slightly offensive brand, Elijah. | ||
| Thank you so much for being 10 steps ahead, actually. | ||
| Okay, so this debate is obviously... | ||
| My biggest thing here is, Elijah, people should be able to have a debate. | ||
| People should be able to do it without fear of censorship. | ||
| I have seen evidence of censorship on this debate, and that is very concerning to me. | ||
| So that's my... | ||
| I see that as the biggest story within the story, really. | ||
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| Yeah, I mean, when we're talking about what's going on, look, this is unprecedented. | ||
| Because what you're seeing right now, people have to remember this. | ||
| You literally have Mark Zuckerberg donating to Trump's inauguration fund. | ||
| He's a tech bro. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| He saw where the momentum was shifting. | ||
| He knew that people were going against Kamala and the establishment. | ||
| So he makes himself appear to be what? | ||
| I don't know, a Republican, a MAGA guy. | ||
| And look, he donated hundreds of millions of dollars in the last election 2020 to rig it against Donald Trump in a very illegal way, right? | ||
| Meddling in our elections. | ||
| And in this election, he comes in, throws a couple million, which is like you or I throwing in a dollar. | ||
| And once it's all the thing that he's changed, I just wanna remind people that these tech bros, these individuals who run these companies, they're not dumb people. | ||
| They're not stupid. | ||
| And they're extremely wealthy and manipulative. | ||
| That's how they got their companies. | ||
| That's how they got so rich. | ||
| And now we're supposed to believe that while they take away our right to free speech, while they go on and they call us, you know, they say F you to your face, you know, F you in your face. | ||
| They call us subtards. | ||
| Essentially, all they're doing is treating us the same way that liberals and leftists treat us in every election, except it's more disrespectful because they're doing it while calling themselves Republicans. | ||
| And no one wants to call it out, Maria, because they don't want to get demonetized. | ||
| They don't want to lose their blue checks. | ||
| Once again, they're controlled by big tech money to not speak out. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's a really serious concern because once you've seen an example made out of certain individuals that, you know, oh, if I speak out, I'm going to lose my blue checkmark or whatever the case may be or get demonetised. | ||
| I'm not monetised on X by choice. | ||
| I don't want to give them my ID. So I'm not really concerned about that. | ||
| But I do obviously have concerns about not being able to reach people because we're going to have very, very You know, dangerous situations in the future where it really depends on being able to reach people. | ||
| And so whether you like it or not, you end up self-policing because of the fact that you don't want to lose that contact that you have with people. | ||
| It's got nothing to do with money for me personally and for a lot of people, even if they are monetised. | ||
| It's not actually about the money for them. | ||
| It's about their ability to reach people and that is being threatened right now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think we have to also look at exactly what's going on, why they're threatening us. | ||
| Censorship only happens when you're telling the truth. | ||
| The problem with this H1B debate is that they're saying, look, this is not about Indians. | ||
| This is not about replacement migration. | ||
| This is not about anti-white migration. | ||
| You guys are all racist conspiracy theorists. | ||
| What this is about is about finding the best and the brightest around the world and bringing them in. | ||
| But when you look at who's receiving the H1Bs, it's several hundred thousand from India, about 50,000 from China. | ||
| And then the best and the brightest from other countries aren't being welcomed in. | ||
| Now, why is that? | ||
| Are there not intelligent people per capita in countries like Switzerland, the United Kingdom? | ||
| Well, of course there are. | ||
| But the problem is if you bring in people from those countries, they're gonna probably demand more than an American worker because they already have access to healthcare and other sort of social nets that their taxes pay for. | ||
| And they might even ask for more money to move. | ||
| But the reason why they want to prioritize people from India, which is what they're trying to do, is they want us to compete with people from foreign countries who will work twice as long for half the amount of money. | ||
| This is a war on the working class. | ||
| This is a war on people who actually put in time. | ||
| And I got to say, I'm freaking disgusted by a lot of my colleagues who think because they work in social media on the internet and journalism. | ||
| Look, I'm a journalist. | ||
| It's a pretty crappy Profession. | ||
| I think people trust journalists more less than they trust Congress. | ||
| And so the fact that you go on the computer and you type things for a living and you think that, you know, you're going to side with Elon against the American workers so you can shill a couple dollars. | ||
| I mean, that's disgusting. | ||
| You know, when the risk is high, when your money's on the line, you're not willing to risk your own money so that you can you want to make sure your money's safe while you're trying to screw over the American public. | ||
| What about their money? | ||
| They don't have a voice. | ||
| They don't have a choice. | ||
| You want them to compete with the outside world for these positions? | ||
| Look, that's what's going on here. | ||
| People like Grant Cardone, you have Colin Rook from Trending Politics. | ||
| They're being Ian Miles Chong. | ||
| They're right out in the open saying, look, right now what's popular is bringing in the third world to outcompete, particularly Americans, white, straight Americans at the most. | ||
| And so now what we're having is we have a world that's being created where the Democrats create a DEI strategy so that white men particularly, even straight men or men in general, Christian men, have to compete against less qualified individuals. | ||
| And now we have Republicans coming in and saying, Well, you're also gonna have to compete. | ||
| If you can get a job, you're gonna have to compete with Gupta here, and he'll work twice as much for half as much money. | ||
| And then you go, wait a second, that doesn't sound like, that's not what I wanted. | ||
| And then they censor you? | ||
| They literally were deleting accounts, just being nuked entire organizations. | ||
| I mean- Look, I know it's risky talking about this stuff because they could nuke us, but I don't know. | ||
| Damn it, Maria. | ||
| This is very serious that we're getting attacked from both flanks right now. | ||
| I know it's risky to speak out against what Elon and the tech bros are doing, but I think there's no better time to speak out than now. | ||
| Oh, I absolutely agree, Elijah. | ||
| And I'm trying to be as balanced as I can about this whole thing because, you know, we don't necessarily have the evidence of, for example, why Owen Schroyer specifically, you know, I'm guest hosting his show right now and he doesn't have his blue checkmark. | ||
| And I'm very concerned about that. | ||
| We don't have the evidence as to why, but we do have evidence of the censorship that ensued After his blue checkmark was removed. | ||
| And it's got, you know, nothing to do with the fact that people don't like Owen Schroer. | ||
| In fact, as of the 27th of December, they were very, very interested in what Owen Schroer had to say. | ||
| But as soon as the blue checkmark was gone, what, people weren't so interested anymore? | ||
| No, that's not organic. | ||
| That is definitely a result of censorship. | ||
| And I have to agree with Owen here saying, you know, censorship works. | ||
| And on top of that, we have Elon Musk, Actually tweeting, you know, it kind of reminds me of sort of high school bullying where he goes, oh, you know, ha ha ha, mute everyone that's woke right or mute these words, mute H1B. It's like a real high school bullying thing. | ||
| I find it very disturbing that he's, specifically Elon here, is sort of boosting people like You mentioned that Ian Miles Chong, who's posted some very, very alarming things about, you know, wanting to engage sexually with children in the past, from what I've seen. | ||
| I mean, it's creepy. | ||
| And I'm not really sure why accounts like this are being boosted when, you know, very reliable, credible people like Owen Schroer, for example, are being de-boosted. | ||
| I see that there is a problem here. | ||
| And my concern is moving forward if we can't trust certain applications... | ||
| I don't want to be told something's a free speech platform when my own eyes can see it's not. | ||
| And if we can't trust it to be moving forward with very serious issues like potentially a new deadly vaccine, what the heck are we going to do? | ||
| Well, the thing about these platforms, and a lot of people have trouble with the things that I'm saying because it's hard to grasp sometimes because everyone wants to take a side and think their side is correct. | ||
| So Elon's against Elon. | ||
| You know, a lot of ways, Twitter 2.0 is less free than the original one. | ||
| And I know when I was there, I was verified. | ||
| I played the game. | ||
| I know exactly how it was and what you couldn't say. | ||
| I can say retard. | ||
| I can call someone a faggot. | ||
| I could say a myriad of words. | ||
| Maybe, sometimes. | ||
| But then it goes down where you see that some people can say that, and other people can't, right? | ||
| Some people can say whatever they want, and they can use retard. | ||
| And I watch people's posts get hidden for saying that. | ||
| Then you see people during this debate saying, go back to Europe, to white people. | ||
| And it doesn't get flagged. | ||
| But if you tell them, go back to India, it gets flagged as hateful content. | ||
| Now, that's pretty subjective there, right? | ||
| That's not a consistent sort of rhetoric across the board. | ||
| And on top of that, with the removing the reach, the thing about this is it's not really a conspiracy. | ||
| It's out in the open. | ||
| Right as the populace actually was making grounds and changing the narrative and pushing back on a very scummy post by Vivek that mocked our talent pool. | ||
| I mean, the fact that the Weinstein brothers are even coming out against Vivek is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, actually, if I can pause you there, crew, if you can bring up my ex account. | ||
| The first, the last post that I made on there was in response to one of the Weinsteins, which I think he addressed it absolutely beautifully. | ||
| And I said, this is the way, not censoring, not removing blue check marks, not silencing people when you don't like what they say, the ways to have more debate. | ||
| If we can bring up that X page, if the crew's got it handy, if not, we can get back to it. | ||
| But, oh, here we go. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| So Eric Weinstein says, Vivek, This hurt a lot of Americans. | ||
| I invited you to a public debate about your claims as I've been fighting this insinuation of inferior American values in STEM for 35 years or more. | ||
| It's a myth that came out of... | ||
| Oh, we've zoomed in to me. | ||
| So I've said, this is the way. | ||
| Not censoring them or removing checkmarks or demonetising or suspending and collectively punishing them and then pretending you didn't and gaslighting people who noticed it. | ||
| Elon, take notes. | ||
| Let's debate this in public on camera, says Eric Weinstein. | ||
| Fantastic response. | ||
| And that's what I think we need to be doing. | ||
| Like I was talking before you got on, Elijah, about people saying, oh, this is a Russian bot op, or this is a leftist op. | ||
| And it's like, I know... | ||
| Some people that are genuinely passionate on this and I know they're not Russian bots and I know they're not leftists. | ||
| So to be calling a huge amount of people, not just the ones I know, but a very large portion of the Republican base leftists and Russian bots just because they don't agree is really the wrong approach from some of these conservatives. | ||
| This is a fantastic, fantastic approach from Eric Weinstein in my opinion. | ||
| Well, and that's the reason why they're mad. | ||
| Look, the censorship is there because this is one of the first arguments that liberals and conservatives have agreed on is absolutely detrimental if we allow this kind of immigration. | ||
| And the reason why is, look, maybe the left is concerned because they have a communist leaning and they care about the means of production being controlled by the people and they care about the worker. | ||
| Look, I care about the blue collar worker. | ||
| I care about the tech worker, right? | ||
| I mean, tech is becoming the new blue collar. | ||
| I know it sounds kind of crazy, but That's becoming the bread and butter, and you don't even have to have a degree anymore to be a tech worker. | ||
| I don't know if you know that. | ||
| Just take a certification. | ||
| In fact, many ways, blue color work is the new elite class. | ||
| Everyone I know that's rich is a plumber, an electrician, and the tech bros are the ones barely making it in the inner cities. | ||
| It's kind of funny how it switched. | ||
| All the blue collar guys I know drive nice trucks, everything, and they're doing great. | ||
| So things have definitely changed a little bit. | ||
| But when we're talking about the position of what our nation is, and when J.D. Vance is coming out and saying, look, a nation isn't just an idea, it's people. | ||
| And we have to decide what kind of place we want to be. | ||
| And then you have people like James Lindsay coming out and being like, you know who used to use that same definition of a country? | ||
| Joseph Stalin. | ||
| You're like, oh, did you know Hitler had two nostrils and you have two nostrils. | ||
| Maybe you're Hitler, you know, like it's the dumbest. | ||
| It's the dumbest conflation of arguments. | ||
| And what's happening here is When you have Grant Cardone come out and say, if I could find an immigrant that would come and work for half the pay, double the hours, I'd take him over an American any day. | ||
| What you're doing is saying that you view your country as an economic zone. | ||
| You don't value people, and you don't care about the quality of life. | ||
| And people say, well, you're attacking capitalism. | ||
| No, I'm attacking cronyism, right? | ||
| We don't want to have an abusive system. | ||
| Capitalism must be paired with morality. | ||
| Our country was built in a way that you have this freedom but paired with a just and a righteous people. | ||
| And so when you allow capitalism to be then contained by greed, And you get things like the 2008 crisis and the banks are bailed out. | ||
| You end up with unchecked capitalism without any regulation or any balances. | ||
| And you end up with actually an oligarchy and a technocracy that's controlling the people rather than just a free market, right? | ||
| I'm not pushing for communism or socialism. | ||
| I'm saying we need to respect American workers. | ||
| We need to respect their way of life. | ||
| It's hard enough to raise a family as it is. | ||
| Anyone watching this that has kids knows they can barely afford to pay their rent. | ||
| And it's like, you're telling me, and by the way, I want to say this. | ||
| I just want to clarify to Grant Cardone, who's been on my show. | ||
| They were saying, you're saying you don't work 80 hours a week? | ||
| You're jealous of these workers? | ||
| No. | ||
| Look, I own my own business. | ||
| I work 80 hours a week often. | ||
| I have a lot of staff and employees that I work with, and I do. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I directly benefit from working 80 hours a week. | ||
| I directly profit. | ||
| But I will never ask my employees who are paid by the hour or paid for a cap of hours to work double the amount of their hours for the same pay without there being a benefit. | ||
| That's called abuse. | ||
| That is abuse of a worker. | ||
| Okay, there's a difference between being an entrepreneur like Grant or Alex Jones or something or Owen and having, you know, direct benefit to working extra hours. | ||
| But having someone come in and work double the hours for half the pay is called slavery and it's disgusting. | ||
| And I'm sick and tired of these greedy scammers And you look at their history, the VEX financial history, you see they've been pulling the rug and scamming people their entire life. | ||
| That's how they got where they're at. | ||
| So look, I don't care if it seems left or right wing. | ||
| This is about my family, my people and my countrymen. | ||
| And I'm not going to put up with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it's absolutely fair. | ||
| People say, well, you're digging back into the past. | ||
| We've exchanged. | ||
| It's like, no, no. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We can... | ||
| I knew that about Vivek when I started listening to him and said, wow, this guy really makes sense, but gosh, there's some shady dealings back there. | ||
| But then maybe he's learned and maybe he's going to change moving forward and let's give him a chance. | ||
| If he says, you know, if he's talking to us about globalism and he's talking to us about America First, let's give him a chance. | ||
| But then when he goes and does something that's not conducive with the ways in which he presents himself, then it is perfectly... | ||
| You know, reasonable to say, OK, well, now you're acting like the guy we were concerned about. | ||
| And I don't think that it is divisive, you know, this whole, oh, you're dividing the movement stuff that I keep hearing. | ||
| I don't think that that's right. | ||
| We are people that are able to exchange ideas without having, you know, all these labels thrown at us. | ||
| You mentioned, this is just one example that I pulled up. | ||
| And let me tell you, Australia has been facing this problem for a very, very long time, much longer than the US, in terms of being replaced by foreign workers, okay? | ||
| And it's not always the case, but to deny that there's an abuse of H1B is false. | ||
| There obviously is. | ||
| You don't need to bring a 7-Eleven cashier from another country. | ||
| I'm sure there are plenty of young Americans who would love to do that job in the middle of studying or whatever the case may be. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like there are people to do it and the response isn't really to just tell them they're too lazy to not get the jobs that H1B workers are. | ||
| I mean, that's just so wrong. | ||
| Vivek really does need to address that because a lot of people are upset, But this is one. | ||
| Better.com CEO's infamous firings in US added 1,000 employees in India. | ||
| So basically this guy joins the company. | ||
| He rises to the top. | ||
| And then he fires 900 staffers on Zoom, via Zoom, American people, and moves the jobs over to India instead. | ||
| And it's not just India that this happens with, by the way. | ||
| It happens with the Philippines. | ||
| It happens with, you know, this is like, you know, offshore, moving jobs offshore. | ||
| But then we're talking about not just moving them offshore, which is already problematic. | ||
| I absolutely despise the fact that I call for a service and I have to speak to someone who barely speaks English. | ||
| It's insulting. | ||
| But... | ||
| This is actually, we're talking about bringing people here to fill jobs that Americans could do. | ||
| I had a look at these jobs. | ||
| There's one for a pickleball instructor. | ||
| America, didn't America invent pickleball? | ||
| Why do we need to bring people from another country to be a pickleball instructor? | ||
| This is the part that's bothering me, Elijah. | ||
| But apart from that, the part that bothers me more is the censorship that's occurred around it. | ||
| Well, yeah, I think people need to talk about this. | ||
| Because, you know, a lot of people say, when you're saying that, you know, you're mad about the Indians coming, it's because you just want white people to come. | ||
| Okay, let me address that for a second here. | ||
| Because that's how they're justifying the censorship. | ||
| They're saying, you know, Elon Musk called them unrepentant racists. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that. | ||
| And he said, we're nuking accounts right now. | ||
| Okay, first of all- To be fair, I don't know if I heard him say we're nuking accounts right now. | ||
| Did he actually say that? | ||
| Well, no, I'm saying that's when there was someone from X that was saying that was one of the X employees. | ||
| I could find the tweet. | ||
| It was someone from X while he was talking about this. | ||
| Accounts are getting nuked right now or whatever. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| Please send that to me if you haven't. | ||
| I'd like to say that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was anti-white rhetoric going on. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| Look, we all know that our founding fathers, if you read the original documents, the first act of Congress, they did make America for European people. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| And it always prioritized that until 1965. Whether you agree with it, if you think they were horrible or not, whether you hate them. | ||
| Same with Australia. | ||
| They had the white Australia policy. | ||
| These nations were white nationalist countries built for white people, and it says it very clearly in the documents. | ||
| Now, we're not like that anymore, right? | ||
| No one's arguing that that's who we are today. | ||
| But what's true about this is when you look at what's going on in the system and you look at what's going on with the hiring, It's the gaslighting to us. | ||
| They're saying, well, we're really just trying to hire the best and the brightest. | ||
| And the reason why you don't want the best and the brightest is because you're a racist and you're a white supremacist and you just don't like Indians. | ||
| Well, first of all, If someone doesn't like Indians, that's, I mean, it's probably because they don't, a lot of them don't wear deodorant, you know, and often have bad hygiene. | ||
| And I've always said to my Indian friends, who I have several, you know, hey, I think you guys could fix a lot of the discrimination you get on a global stage by showering a little more, you know? | ||
| And that's a real serious statement, you know? | ||
| But on the flip of that, I think... | ||
| I'm laughing, Elijah, because people are going to think that you're purposely being insulting here, but you're not. | ||
| You're actually being serious. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| It's a very serious thing. | ||
| You can... | ||
| You can smell Indians in the next aisle over. | ||
| And there's entire channels on YouTube from Indians trying to explain that to each other. | ||
| We could actually help some of the discrimination by just not stinking. | ||
| And the thing is that you would always tell a friend, right? | ||
| Hey, you smell. | ||
| You should go take a shower or something like that. | ||
| It's not a mean statement. | ||
| It's just out of love. | ||
| And the thing is, is that on top of that, it's like, when you look at this, is it the best and the brightest? | ||
| Well, we already have visas for that, the EB2. We already have visas that are different for people that wanna start businesses and hire people. | ||
| And when you look at the best and the brightest, you look at the average IQ in India, and you also look at the rate of geniuses There's no reason why there should be 3,000, 5,000% more people being brought in on the H-1B visas from India than any other country, right? | ||
| I mean, we're talking about like 6, 7, 800% more than from China, and they have about similar population sizes. | ||
| And I would argue that there's probably higher education rates and levels in China and more competition, more reasons for them to want to leave. | ||
| So when you look at it down on the numbers, what you're finding is that they're intentionally bringing in Indians to Regardless of whether the best and the brightest, simply because they'll take less money. | ||
| And then your entire visa is relying on maintaining the job. | ||
| So then they abuse them. | ||
| And I have countless opportunities. | ||
| And then the worst part is they go, well, you hate them because they're Indian. | ||
| It's like, no, but you do need to look at culture because they do have a caste system. | ||
| That they practice and they do have in their culture, they feel like they're elitist or better than people. | ||
| You see a lot of racism from Indians, not Indian Americans, Indians against white people during this time calling us scum. | ||
| They're gonna replace us and we should take that very seriously. | ||
| Actually, I just want to... | ||
| I wish I got some screenshots, but I'll just tell you, because I didn't want to necessarily make it about that aspect of the argument, but we're absolutely able to. | ||
| I saw many, many, you know, responses from some of those accounts saying we are... | ||
| Now, I don't know if they're real or trolls, but saying, you know, yeah, we're coming to your country, we're going to show you that we're more capable than the white men, then we're going to destroy your country, and then we're going to go back home after we've destroyed your country. | ||
| I don't think that that's really... | ||
| You know, a good representation or a good idea to bring people that think that way in. | ||
| But it's not to say that everyone that's coming in thinks that way either. | ||
| And it's not to say that there aren't some geniuses coming in from other countries and even from India or China or whatever the case may be. | ||
| It's not really the argument. | ||
| And my concern is that, you know, people... | ||
| People may listen to people like you talking and just slap the racist label. | ||
| I just saw someone, I'll bring it up after the break, introducing a new, you know, bill, I think it is, I want to get this right, to make it illegal to be discriminatory towards Indians. | ||
| And it's like, this is how far this is going. | ||
| So I'll bring that up after the break and we'll talk about this more. | ||
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| anywhere. | ||
| We'll be right back with Elijah Schaefer. | ||
| My guest is Elijah Schaefer at Elijah Schaefer on X, and we are talking about the very heated H1B and we are talking about the very heated H1B debate, but much more beyond that, in my opinion, is the censorship that's occurred I'm very concerned about it. | ||
| I'm concerned about the future. | ||
| If we have other contentious topics that the X platform or Elon himself doesn't agree with, what's going to happen to the debate? | ||
| What's going to happen to the people that are depending on this platform? | ||
| And again, you know, I said earlier I'm not monetized on X, so I personally am not... | ||
| I'm not affected by that, but I am very, very concerned for the people who actually have been promised that they can make a livelihood off producing quality content on this platform, and they are having that stripped from them because they're saying things that the establishment doesn't like. | ||
| It's very concerning to me, and it really is essentially what the Democratic Party and the mainstream media and social media big tech in collusion with them did over the last four years that led to many, many people losing their lives and Because they couldn't access real information about medical... | ||
| The truth about, you know, medicine, health. | ||
| Doctors were being censored. | ||
| And by the way, I have some concerns about X doing that in the future, and I'll cover that after we're done chatting, Elijah, because there is actually... | ||
| You know, I've inquired with Grok as to X's content moderation, and it does talk about these things, and it sort of... | ||
| It alludes to the fact that people that talk about certain, you know... | ||
| Banning mRNA will have their content moderated and people that talk about chemtrails will have their content moderated. | ||
| And while we still see this stuff on X, the fact is that it is inbuilt as a content moderation tool. | ||
| So how is this different from Facebook or Instagram? | ||
| You know, we see more of it right now, but we've just literally this last week had an example of how quickly people can be silenced if they talk about something that today... | ||
| The establishment doesn't want to talk about. | ||
| And right now, the establishment is the incoming party, right? | ||
| Like, this is how they're behaving. | ||
| I'm very concerned. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| So number one, I want to also say, I think you not being monetized is a pretty good idea. | ||
| I'm not monetized on X either, which is why people say, well, why are you not afraid to speak? | ||
| Well, I think sometimes money is used as a manipulator, right? | ||
| I'm demonetized pretty much everywhere or been deleted. | ||
| However, I still run a pretty serious operation. | ||
| And I know a lot of people are reliant on me for their salaries. | ||
| And a lot of families, what I do for work pays their bills. | ||
| I know a lot of these creators and people are really small business owners. | ||
| People don't realize that. | ||
| They have pretty much a dozen or more staff members. | ||
| Some of them have up to 30 to 40 staff members, depending on if they're like Benny Johnson size or Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Could have several hundred, maybe even over a thousand staff members that are reliant on them. | ||
| So not all these people are just trying to preserve their wealth for their own selfish, narcissistic benefit. | ||
| They might have good intentions, but oftentimes evil outcomes It's not that people who are monetized online are any less valid, but I think it is a good thing to clarify to people that you're not. | ||
| But with the censorship, I think one of the main things that is more concerning here Is that people have become so okay with this level of censorship and that people do not understand that even though we're blessed that maybe back in the medieval times, which don't really exist, but back hundreds of years ago, if you spoke out incorrectly, you'd be shot. | ||
| Or maybe in North Korea to this day, you might be publicly executed. | ||
| That's not really what's I mean, if you speak out against Boeing, you might still get suicided. | ||
| If you are Epstein, they might still suicide you as well. | ||
| But for the most part, what they do now is a certain kind of control that is almost a humiliation ritual where they open up great economic benefit to people who fall in line with the system and who, who self-censor. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| If you self-censor, basically, they're so powerful, they don't even have to force you to do something. | ||
| They'll let you force yourself. | ||
| This is very similar to what we've seen in China, where to get people out of rural China and into the social credit system, they offered people basically free social welfare, housing, et cetera, to move into the cities under the condition that now you're under constant So it's like they'll pull you out of poverty, but the tradeoff is that they get more control over you. | ||
| So a lot of what the monetization on Twitter and a lot of this free speech conversations I've seen Are really not very free. | ||
| Like I mentioned, it's like you're just as censored. | ||
| I see people censoring normal words now. | ||
| I have to do it too. | ||
| In original Twitter, I never had to censor the word racist or white or Jew or any of these words. | ||
| But now you have to actually like put asterisks and censor normal words and normal speech because the algorithm is so rigged to sort of suppress information that actually talks about real issues. | ||
| And it's all about money once again and control. | ||
| Yes, and if I can just add there, Elijah, Because I'm doing the same thing. | ||
| I used to mock Instagram for the fact that during COVID I had to use code words. | ||
| And different countries had different rules. | ||
| So while I was in Australia, I had to say IV instead of ivermectin, for example. | ||
| Or funny flu, we used to call COVID. Like, really dumb, childish things, because there were words that Instagram, the AI, would pick up and it would immediately suppress your account, but not just that interaction or future interactions. | ||
| I'm having to do the same thing with X. | ||
| I've learned certain words, certain terms, like AI world society, for example, the UN's plan or the globalist plan to move everyone into a mixed reality universe where you can't really tell the difference between the internet and real life and everything happens on the internet, kind of like what X wants to be. | ||
| That topic, big no-no, straightaway, probable spam, probable spam, and I get maybe 2,000, 3,000 views. | ||
| I don't have a huge account there. | ||
| It's 130,000. | ||
| But there's no way that I'm getting 2,000 people from 130,000 viewing something that I know is interesting because these are some of my top broadcasts on other platforms, right? | ||
| So I know that X doesn't like this. | ||
| And I have to use stupid code letters for these topics. | ||
| And okay, maybe that post won't get viewed. | ||
| But then my next 10, 15 posts don't get viewed as much because... | ||
| The algorithm didn't like that word. | ||
| I mean, it's getting really silly. | ||
| How long do you think that this can go? | ||
| I equate it to, you know, I come to your house, Elijah, and it's your private home. | ||
| Okay, so you are allowed to make those rules. | ||
| And you're allowed to say, Maria, you can't talk about this in my house. | ||
| It's disrespectful. | ||
| And I have no choice but to abide by that, right? | ||
| Like, it's a private home. | ||
| So if we look at X like a private home... | ||
| How long do you think it'll be before people are trying to have conversations in there can't be heard and then start looking for other places? | ||
| This is actually my concern. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is gonna sound kind of dumb, but I'm not as concerned about having to use code words because I've had to do that the entire time, right? | ||
| It's more or less people are just shocked they still have to do that. | ||
| The censorship has never went away, in my opinion. | ||
| It's always been there. | ||
| I always knew that when I got demonetized and shut down back in January of this year for sharing a breaking news story that went against the US government. | ||
| And now, not only was I demonetized and temporarily suspended for breaking the news as a journalist, but also everybody else that broke the story got their monetization back, but I didn't. | ||
| Never got a response from a human while everyone else that broke the story did. | ||
| And on top of that, it's like, what was the point of the demonetization or how did that work? | ||
| Well, you can't even search up the name of the guy who the story is about anymore. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he called for a rebellion against the United States government. | ||
| Obviously, the government still has a hand in what's allowed to be on X. And I realized that early this year that there's still a huge government intervention going on. | ||
| We saw that with the Twitter files, 1.0, the files that were released when Elon bought it, that the CIA has been working lockstep to control social media companies, which we already know. | ||
| But I think that the more concerning part about the censorship It's just the ignorance of people thinking that it's not happening now when it is, like you mentioned. | ||
| It's the idea I always joked. | ||
| It's like, I can say there are only two genders now on X, but I have to censor the word gender now, not the number two. | ||
| So before, I'd have to write infinite genders, but now I can't use the word gender because now the word gender is sensitive, and now there's more sensitive words than I've ever seen. | ||
| And it's like, It's like now I don't get banned if I disagree with the woke agenda. | ||
| I can speak out against transgenders and use the word tranny, but I can't use the word pajit to describe somebody. | ||
| When 65% of global outward defecating, so people who defecate openly without sewer systems, 65% of all global Defecation in the open takes place just in rural India. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| The whole world. | ||
| And the word Pajit means an outdoor pooper, someone who poops outdoors. | ||
| And that's not even a slang. | ||
| It just means that's what it means. | ||
| Now, you can't use that word on X anymore. | ||
| They're adding new words that are not even real language to try to control narratives. | ||
| And I mentioned earlier for people that are just joining, you can tell someone go back to Europe and you don't get locked out. | ||
| But if you say go back to India, you do. | ||
| And so you see this with certain groups like Jewish people and with Indians where they get special protections. | ||
| And so it's like on the old app, you could be anti-Semitic and anti-Indian, but you couldn't be anti-LGBTQ or anti-black. | ||
| And now you can share black crime videos and make fun of genders, but you can't speak out against your problems with India or with Israel. | ||
| It's like We've just changed the topics that are censored now, and it's like you're just getting a Republican version of censorship, which is just to remind you guys, you know, Tech oligarchs and these people may not have our best intentions when it comes to looking out for us. | ||
| I'm just reminding people, I'm not complaining because it's always been the same, but oftentimes it's the same system, different owners type of thing. | ||
| I just wish people would wake up to realize that things haven't changed as much as they think and that they're being gaslit into thinking that they have more freedom than they do. | ||
| That's definitely a concern of mine. | ||
| And like I said to you, I was very, very disappointed to see some people saying this is a Russian op or this is a leftist op, when I know for a fact that it is a genuine disagreement that the people have. | ||
| And I think there were polls... | ||
| I think someone asked Grok how many people are in favour of H1B on X or something, and it was something overwhelming, like over 90% were against it. | ||
| And so you can't call 90% of these users Russian ops and leftists. | ||
| It's just not genuine, and it's really insulting to the intelligence of people who are disagreeing. | ||
| And to then, you know, paint them as the enemy, paint them all as racist, paint them all as intolerant or unrepentant. | ||
| I think Elon used that word and many other people are just claiming everyone's a racist. | ||
| And, I mean, we could even have the conversation that really everyone is inherently somewhat racist and that it's not actually a bad thing. | ||
| It's got to do with self-preservation. | ||
| If you go back in time, this is how countries protected themselves. | ||
| I mean, we can have that broader conversation, but... | ||
| I'm really, really tired of these labels that just don't hold any water anymore. | ||
| Calling everyone woke right, like you and I having this conversation right now, would likely be considered woke right. | ||
| And I just think that that's so pathetic and weak and really childish to just start labelling anyone who is... | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| We debate like this. | ||
| We have these conversations that just label us woke white because we're not agreeing with everything some influencer says is really, really insulting to me. | ||
| Yeah, I do think it's insulting. | ||
| And there's many instances of this where I would have people that would be writing these statements. | ||
| They would literally use just superlative, just all of these people who are coming against this are bot farms. | ||
| I never knew that these were just bots and crazy fake accounts that are coming out against the H1B. And I'd comment and be like, hi, I'm Elijah Schaefer. | ||
| I use my real name on the internet. | ||
| I speak about unpopular ideas and perspectives. | ||
| I'm verified on here because I work for a very large organization that has 3 million readers a day, and I run their video department amongst many other positions. | ||
| I'm verified through three different organizations, and I'm coming out against this. | ||
| I'm also not against H1B. I'm against abuse of it, especially from cultures that don't align with Western civilization. | ||
| Why everyone doesn't understand that? | ||
| Not all cultures mix, okay? | ||
| And so you go out here and you go, I'm trying to build a better nation and speak out for my people. | ||
| I've worked overseas. | ||
| I've worked in South Korea. | ||
| I've worked in China. | ||
| I've worked in Australia. | ||
| I've lived overseas. | ||
| I have employees from overseas. | ||
| I wouldn't be opposed with them moving here and working out of my office here. | ||
| It would be fantastic. | ||
| So I'm not against, you know, immigration and what's going on. | ||
| My wife is an immigrant from Africa, right? | ||
| My kids are dual citizens. | ||
| So, like, you're talking to someone. | ||
| You can say anything you want. | ||
| I'm anti-immigration. | ||
| When I'm married to an immigrant, you can say, you know, I'm against working, you know, people working overseas when I've done that myself. | ||
| And, oh, he's against foreign workers. | ||
| He's afraid. | ||
| No, I employ foreign people. | ||
| I'm saying that I can see what's happening here. | ||
| You can't gaslight us. | ||
| And to come at us and insult us like that and lie about us publicly It's more telling the fact that this is a disingenuous approach. | ||
| And I think that's what we're noticing with the woke right stuff. | ||
| They just want to call us Nazis or racists like the left has been doing for years because we're honest about the integration problems that are happening in Australia and Canada. | ||
| You look at what's going on in Brampton and Melbourne and you're like, nah, shoot, man. | ||
| I don't want this for my country. | ||
| And then they go, well, you're a racist. | ||
| You go, no, I just want a better nation of cohesion and I'm tired of the chaos. | ||
| And I'm I want the nation to work for my children. | ||
| DEI has been discriminatory enough. | ||
| I have two young white boys, and it's already going to be hard enough for them to get a job that I already realized I have to start a company for them because they're going to have a hard time making money and get promotions. | ||
| Now you want them to also have to compete with other people for experience overseas? | ||
| And I'm the bad guy? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Absolutely, I hear you. | ||
| It's worth noting as well, and I just want to say, I know that Elon did come out and say that he, I forgot his exact terminology, but it was something along the lines of that he said that the H-1B needed reform, right? | ||
| So I don't want to misquote him, but he agreed that the H-1B needed reform, and that's all well and good, and we're glad, and people say, well, people make mistakes, and blah, blah, blah, and it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get all that. | ||
| I'm talking about the fact that what happened in that week of very, very heated debate is that people lost their accounts or had their ability to earn money taken away from them. | ||
| Did Owen lose his monetization? | ||
| I'm not sure about that. | ||
| What I know happened to Laura Loomer was that her subscribers were sent a notice that she's deactivated her subscriptions. | ||
| She says she did not do that. | ||
| That came from X, yet they painted it like she did it. | ||
| And they took away the ability of her subscribers to financially support her. | ||
| What I want to know is how is this any different to what Trudeau did during the trucker convoy? | ||
| Why is this any different? | ||
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Why? | |
| Because Elon's done some good stuff? | ||
| Because I'm happy to talk about the good stuff that he's done. | ||
| I'm happy to give him credit for when he does good things. | ||
| But when he does tyrannical things, or when the X platform, let's not just say Elon, when the X platform does tyrannical things or things that need further explanation, we should not be afraid to say it or question it or demand answers. | ||
| This is my whole point, Elijah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I want to add this because, okay, anyone who uses the phrase woke right unironically is what we call the woke light, right? | ||
| We can throw names back. | ||
| They're just progressive liberals that are adopting something new. | ||
| So it's like, okay, you're the woke light. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| The further you embrace the fact that you're just a left-wing individual that is racist and you just hate white people, you hate nationalists, you hate Christians, but you don't want to come out and say it because you have common sense. | ||
| They're like liberals with common sense, right? | ||
| And they admit that too. | ||
| But that being said, People ask, for instance, I almost got fired from my jobs, but many people did during COVID. But for me, it was because I attacked other colleagues of mine publicly who were pushing the vaccine. | ||
| And I was told, hey, don't do that. | ||
| I had CEOs from other companies going to other people, trying to get them to relieve me because I was attacking Ben Shapiro. | ||
| So his network tried to get me fired from my job because I was telling him that He was dumb for promoting the vaccine. | ||
| People know that famous quote from Ben Shapiro where he called us dopes and idiots for not taking the vaccine. | ||
| That was at me. | ||
| He was talking to me and he was telling me that I was stupid and that my audience was retarded. | ||
| And I don't take offense to a lot of things, but I take offense to trying to harm my audience physically with poison. | ||
| And people say, well, Why early on? | ||
| I had a COVID party when it first came out, and we had a party that got shut down by the police. | ||
| Why did you know early on? | ||
| Well, because look, it's not about COVID. It's not when something's really serious, when it really matters. | ||
| It's about being consistent, right, on an issue. | ||
| So being consistent against censorship, being consistent where it's like, To when you know you're not gonna buckle. | ||
| So people say, why are you making a big deal out about this? | ||
| Well, this is the same thing, like you mentioned, of what happened in COVID. If you're not making a big deal about this, then I assume you probably fell for COVID originally too, and it took you a while to wake up. | ||
| It's not my responsibility to make you wake up and just to notice what's going on. | ||
| And most people, I wanna say this, congratulations to most of you watching this, because I'm not surprised after COVID that so many people are awake. | ||
| But I would say the majority of people see this issue and are like, They're like us, where they're like, no, again, the populace doesn't want this. | ||
| It's bad for the country. | ||
| And the oligarchs and the proletariat, they disagree with us. | ||
| So instead of arguing and trying to make a case, they're silencing us. | ||
| This is the same thing, and it's dangerous, and it doesn't matter if you're a Republican or Democrat, whether your name's Musk or Zuckerberg, whether you're a white guy from South Africa or you're a Jewish guy like Zuckerberg or you're an atheist. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| This is the wrong way to approach situations and goes against our human rights and our civil rights from God. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And crew, if you can do an overhead shot, someone responded to me because ex-Tesla, I think it was, today Elijah put out... | ||
| Hang on, let me find it because this is important. | ||
| So Tesla owners Silicon Valley and Elon responded to them. | ||
| We've come full circle. | ||
| Insane how the ex-debit card will become a reality again. | ||
| And... | ||
| I've seen them talking about how X is going to be an all-encompassing payment app. | ||
| Elon said he wants to make it like WeChat in China, which is essentially... | ||
| I've seen people that get locked out of WeChat where they put their whole life on this WeChat. | ||
| They depend on it. | ||
| Then they say something against the government. | ||
| They get locked out of their whole lives. | ||
| They can't pay their rent. | ||
| They can't go to work. | ||
| Nothing, nothing, nothing. | ||
| And they are sitting there begging, pleading to be allowed back on WeChat. | ||
| And so I'm like, well, if we are... | ||
| We're already seeing people being collectively punished, and not just people who spoke out, but associations of people who spoke out about this particular issue. | ||
| The last thing we'd want to do is put our finances associated with social media. | ||
| You know, that's like, we need to correct this issue before we even talk about that. | ||
| And so I put that out, something to that effect, and someone said to me, and this is in no way, shape, or form a stab at this individual. | ||
| You can... | ||
| You can have your opinions or whatever, but they said must be a rough life being so negative all the time. | ||
| But I saw this really, Elijah, as kind of what you're saying right now, and my response was what you're saying right now, which is yes, it is rough when you try to warn people because you care about them in the future and instead they think that you're the enemy. | ||
| People demonised for warning about technocracy today. | ||
| are equivalent to the unvaccinated warning people not to get the shots in the early days. | ||
| This is the post, by the way, as soon as I made it, probable spam, probable spam, probable spam, with no spam on it. | ||
| And so when I see patterns like that, you know, hey, I'm warning about technocracy, it's the same thing as when we're warning about the shots and all of a sudden I get hit with a spam filter. | ||
| And so, you know, I think the last time I checked that post has had only about 2,000 views. | ||
| I have 135 odd thousand followers on there. | ||
| So to me, there's Like, this seems conspiratorial. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, there's something wrong here and I'm not going to pretend that it's not happening because this is something that we have to address before 2025. It's not going to be, you know, an easy ride moving forward and if we're pretending it is, quite frankly, I think we're very naive. | ||
| Elijah, we've got a couple of minutes until the break. | ||
| Give us your closing thoughts and please let people know where they can follow you. | ||
| Yeah, I appreciate it, Maria. | ||
| You are an excellent host. | ||
| Shout out to Owen as well and to Alex and the entire team there in the room. | ||
| I know you guys are the ones who make the show run, actually. | ||
| And so, you know, it's amazing. | ||
| You guys are doing great work. | ||
| And Maria, you are just excellent, always. | ||
| Yeah, I see you guys in there. | ||
| You guys are amazing. | ||
| Thumbs up to all you guys. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| That being said, you know, I think what it comes down to the fact that in moments like this, it kind of shows whether someone can be trusted or not. | ||
| Because when there's financial risk, when there's reputational risk, when there's even risk of being permanently silenced, and people are being consistent on what the values they stand up for against censorship— For the American worker, for those that don't have a voice, against a technocracy, against authoritarianism, and of course fighting for the American people. | ||
| Whether it's fighting a Republican, a Democrat, a tech bro, a random guy on the street, the consistency here is what you need to see. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are using this to their own advantage, to gain money, to try to manipulate the system. | ||
| There's a lot of retarded people out there, like James Lindsay, who is just, you know, Really, really struggling to make Fetch happen. | ||
| He's like the Mean Girls, but he's a guy and he wears cheap suits or whatever, but I like him, but whatever. | ||
| But he's out there trying to push this stuff. | ||
| I don't mind it. | ||
| But a lot of people are trying to push their own agenda. | ||
| The key thing is, is look for people that are trying to protect Americans right now against a foreign invasion, whether legal or illegal. | ||
| And that's the key part. | ||
| Whether it's COVID, whether it's H-1B visas, find out what is being used in the moment to try to take advantage and hurt the American people and the people of the West. | ||
| And you've got to make sure that the people that you trust for information are fighting against that and are fighting for you. | ||
| And don't be fooled by the grift. | ||
| And anyone who's supporting this take from Vivek and Elon, in my opinion, can never be trusted again. | ||
| Well, let me just say, Elijah, there may be people that are all for the H-1B visa, and I'm not saying those people are not trustworthy. | ||
| I like the H-1B, by the way. | ||
| I'm not against it. | ||
| Sorry, we're almost out of time. | ||
| What I will say is that I am very, very critical and will continue to be of people who are denying that people are being penalised for having this conversation. | ||
| That's my problem. | ||
| Because it is happening. | ||
| There's evidence of it. | ||
| And Conservatives trying to gaslight us and tell the world that these are just Russian bots. | ||
| Is very, very, you know, I have serious concerns about that. | ||
| Either you're ignorant or you are sinister and both are too dangerous moving forward in the future. | ||
| So thank you so much, Elijah Schaefer on X. Really appreciate you and your time today. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| We're going to take some of... | ||
| And rumble. | ||
| Take some of your calls. | ||
| Well, I absolutely love and adore and value free speech and love the crew for playing this wonderful song in the background there. | ||
| Thank you so much, crew. | ||
| And, you know, we have to laugh. | ||
| We have to laugh at the fieriness of the conservative movement. | ||
| We also have to laugh at the mainstream media being so irrelevant. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| We used to report on them. | ||
| We were forced to constantly cover their lies and their propaganda, and now they are so irrelevant that they spend their time reporting on us, acting like, Margaret's done! | ||
| There's been a fracture! | ||
| But what I will say to those conservatives who are accusing people like Elijah of being a Russian bot or part of a leftist op... | ||
| Is that you're not actually doing us any favours by doing that. | ||
| And I count myself part of the wider conservative movement. | ||
| I've been reporting on American politics for a very long time now. | ||
| I live here. | ||
| You're not doing people who are on your side any favours by behaving in this manner, nor are you doing those people any favours by pretending that the censorship isn't happening. | ||
| And I just want to show people this before we go into your calls. | ||
| And we're going to do that after this next short break. | ||
| So the number for that is 877-789-2539. | ||
| Give us a call. | ||
| I want to hear from people on this topic, on censorship. | ||
| And, you know, if there's anything else in particular you want to bring up, we can. | ||
| But mainly this is my biggest concern. | ||
| 877-789-2539. | ||
| We'll start taking those calls in a few minutes. | ||
| But I want to show you something quickly. | ||
| So I asked Grok, according to your knowledge of X's moderation policies, which of Z Media, being our account, my account, would result in visibility or account limitations? | ||
| And Grok says, based on X's moderation policies, several types of content from Z Media could potentially lead to visibility or account limitations. | ||
| It says, posts questioning or denying widely accepted scientific facts like those related to climate change, public health measures or vaccines might be flagged as misinformation. | ||
| So Grok's telling me, based on its knowledge of X's content moderation policies, that if I say things that are contrary to the quote-unquote widely accepted facts about climate change or public health or vaccines... | ||
| I can be flagged as spreading misinformation. | ||
| Also statements about chemtrails, smart cities, all the great reset being linked to anti-Semitism, which Grok has done on my behalf. | ||
| I've never really publicly linked any of that with anything to do with anti-Semitism. | ||
| I'm not sure where Grok got that from, but X's AI has that impression about me. | ||
| Maybe because I'm critical of the genocide happening in Gaza. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Does that mean I'm an anti-Semite because I'm critical of a foreign war? | ||
| That's getting really tired. | ||
| Or other forms of discrimination could also fall under this category. | ||
| So apparently, if I talk about smart cities, chemtrails or the Great Reset, is that... | ||
| Evidence that I'm an anti-Semite and that I'm discriminating? | ||
| I mean, I'm not really understanding this. | ||
| But what I'm trying to say is this is X's AI's assessment, which BlackRock just invested in, by the way, $6 billion investment, I think it was. | ||
| X's, AI's assessment of all the ways in which I may be limited based on the misinformation that I spread. | ||
| So if we're talking about people that have been so right on the vaccines, which I'll happily say, you know, I'm not really on the money, you know, I'm not all the time about absolutely everything, but when it comes to the vaccines, my goodness, have I hit this topic already. | ||
| You know, till I'm blue in the face over the past three years. | ||
| And I would say that I've done an extreme amount of due diligence on this topic. | ||
| When you've got people like that being labelled by X as potentially spreading misinformation on vaccines, what happens in the next quote-unquote pandemic? | ||
| What happens if X's content moderation policy says, no, Maria's spreading misinformation after what we've seen over this past week? | ||
| We have to be real and face that fact and make sure that we address this head on. | ||
| 877-789-2539. | ||
| I want to hear from you after this short break. | ||
| We'll talk about all of it. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
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| We're going to take some calls now. | ||
| We're going to speak to Geoffrey from Hawaii. | ||
| Geoffrey, you're on the air. | ||
| Geoffrey, can you hear me? | ||
| Oh, there you are. | ||
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Yeah, I can hear you. | |
| I think the elephant in the room, as far as the Republican Party goes, is there seems to be a division just due to minor hypocrisy. | ||
| As far as 2016 Trump, if you look at when he was bidding for an election... | ||
| And during his stay there, he was against TikTok for national security. | ||
| He was against Bitcoin because he didn't want a competition to the dollar. | ||
| He was against H-1B visas because he was against that taking away American jobs. | ||
| And he was against EV vehicles because that wasn't a solution. | ||
| It was too much draw on the grid. | ||
| So now come 2024, and these large corporations and individuals are allowed to donate to campaigns, it seems that we have a flip-flop on all of that, and nobody is holding Trump accountable in the Republican Party on why that is. | ||
| So as far as TikTok, he made a joke saying, oh, well, I'm famous on there, so maybe I should keep it. | ||
| Bitcoin. | ||
| It's a very Trump joke. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So then Bitcoin, he was against it, got some donations, and then it still is a direct competitive to the dollar, but then when BRICS companies want to get out of the dollar, everyone gets 100% tariffs, no questions asked. | ||
| I want a strong dollar, but I also want Bitcoin to compete with it. | ||
| So that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| The H-1B visas, I mean, we keep on talking about Elon Musk. | ||
| He's not an elected official. | ||
| He can say what he wants. | ||
| He's just a citizen of America. | ||
| So, but Trump did say he's pro-H1B visas. | ||
| Yes, which in 2016 he said he wasn't. | ||
| And I agree with you, Jeffrey. | ||
| And I just want to say, you know, we're talking about years and years here. | ||
| So times have gone by. | ||
| I'm personally—I despise digital currency. | ||
| I don't want the world to move that way. | ||
| I think it opens the way up for the mark of the beast. | ||
| But by the same token, maybe in order to be competitive— You need to consider digital currencies. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just playing devil's advocate here. | ||
| Personally, I hate digital currency. | ||
| I don't want to see it. | ||
| I don't want any part of it, right? | ||
| But there is an opportunity there, even for people right now, and I see why people are doing it, to make some money. | ||
| They see, okay, there's a tidal wave coming. | ||
| And I can see that I can make quick money right now in Bitcoin or the other currencies. | ||
| Maybe I'll just do it for now, make some money and then prepare to live off-grid later. | ||
| I see all of those sides. | ||
| As far as the H1B goes, yep, totally weird that in 2016 he was really, really vehemently against it. | ||
| Now he's saying he's for it. | ||
| He even uses it. | ||
| I think that's odd. | ||
| TikTok, bit of a joke. | ||
| And the EVs, the biggest thing for me was that he said no EV mandates, which... | ||
| Which is what they're pushing. | ||
| Yet, you know, people should have the choice. | ||
| If they want EVs, they can have them. | ||
| So I hear you. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| I still think that we're talking about years down the line, views can change. | ||
| And that's what I think may be the case. | ||
| but we could also have the discussion that it is donor money or that it is the big tech guys that are influencing him. | ||
| And, and certainly I'm concerned about some of Musk's other aspirations and, and where the country will go. | ||
| Cause like I said, that he wants carbon taxes. | ||
| What's going to happen there. | ||
| He's previously said he's all for carbon taxes. | ||
| He loves MRNA, even though he thought there were issues with the COVID injections. | ||
| He really loves MRNA. | ||
| He sees it as digital medicine. | ||
| What's going to happen there. | ||
| Are we still going to have a discussion, investigation into mRNA? | ||
| I'm hoping so. | ||
| And I think a lot of these questions we'll be able to answer after January 20th. | ||
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Yeah, and I guess the biggest thing for me is generally the Republican Party is the one of the moral high ground in what is right. | |
| And it seems that, like... | ||
| When Elon got on board and he said that he would support Trump and funded $140 million for the campaign or whatever it was, there wasn't really an uproar with the Republican Party because it was pro-Republican Party. | ||
| Now, let's say, for instance, Elon Musk said, oh, I'm going to give $140 million to Kamala Harris. | ||
| You guys would be on here for a week saying how that's unjust. | ||
| They shouldn't be able to buy elections and stuff like that. | ||
| So in order to be a moral high ground, you do have to be able to call out what's right, what's wrong, even if it is going towards your position. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you. | ||
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And I think that's the main thing in the Republican Party right now. | |
| Morality is not concrete. | ||
| It's just whatever works for me is right. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you, Geoffrey, and this is something I actually said as well. | ||
| I publicly said this. | ||
| I said I was very grateful for Elon's help in getting Trump elected because I believed he was the better choice for the country, obviously, than Kamala. | ||
| Like, that goes without saying, right? | ||
| But... | ||
| By the same token, it's like, is it hypocritical to be grateful for that help? | ||
| And then, you know, just because it meant that you got your victory that you wanted, what happens when he does something that we don't agree with? | ||
| And I think that this is something that we all need to, you know, ask ourselves and be honest about. | ||
| And even if you, I'm of the firm belief that even if you generally support someone, you don't have to always support everything that they do. | ||
| There's a thing called accountability and none of us are immune to it. | ||
| Really appreciate your call, Jeffrey. | ||
| We've got a lot of people to speak to today, so thank you so much. | ||
| Have a wonderful New Year. | ||
| Let's go to Miss Lou in Florida. | ||
| Hey, how you doing, Maria? | ||
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Happy New Year to you. | |
| Great show. | ||
| Happy New Year, Miss Lou. | ||
| I'm Miss Lou on X, and I'm listening to you on X now. | ||
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Great. | |
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I am very, very worried. | ||
| Because, I mean, I'm a small account. | ||
| I'm not monetized. | ||
| So I'm not likely to be a target. | ||
| But I've been very critical about the H-1B. I agree with Steve Bannon that for a decade it's been a scam. | ||
| But I don't want to get into H-1B so much as I want to talk about censorship. | ||
| Because I think right now with everything going on, Biden just put another nearly $2 billion into Ukraine. | ||
| They're trying to empty the Treasury out before Trump starts. | ||
| And Russia's getting aggressive on Ukraine again. | ||
| I mean, this is just, you know, there's so many fronts. | ||
| The pandemic, the replay of COVID into a bird's fang, which is, you know, another gain of function. | ||
| I think that people are so being assaulted from all fronts. | ||
| And we get on and relieve a little bit of our past information along, which we need to do, on social media. | ||
| And then to think that we're being shadowbanned. | ||
| And here's something interesting that's happening to me. | ||
| I posted, in fact, I forwarded the broadcast, which I do. | ||
| I repost broadcasts like this one, and I make a comment above because it's nice to do a quote before your post. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I keep getting replies of big-breasted women that have no followers that, I mean, they're clearly bought. | ||
| But, I mean, it's like my followers and who I follow is almost the same number now, and it didn't used to be. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So, Ms. Liu, I think those bots, and I'm going to be really fair about that here, I used to get them a lot before. | ||
| Then there was a while where it stopped and then they started coming back. | ||
| I think X actually did try to do something about those bots. | ||
| And what happens is those bots may not actually be from X, although they could be. | ||
| I mean, you don't know. | ||
| But the bots are actually, you know, the... | ||
| say the intelligence agencies, for example, foreign or domestic, trying to stop good information getting out. | ||
| So that is, X actually did do a bot purge some time ago and I saw some of those bots that you're talking about actually stopped bothering me for a while and it was so great because they weren't impacting my reach at the time. | ||
| So X has taken action on some of those things. | ||
| But the other issues that we're talking about, you know, mass censoring people that are critical of this one issue over this past week and we've got the evidence of censorship It's clear. | ||
| It's undeniable. | ||
| You know, someone... | ||
| Ratioing Elon and then all of a sudden his blue checkmark's gone. | ||
| I mean, what other explanation do we have for these things? | ||
| Our own, you know, the person that sits in this chair, Owen Troyer, has had no explanation other than the fact that he was engaged in this debate or associated with someone who was seen as problematic. | ||
| That's a social credit system style punishment. | ||
| So, you know, we can't deny that it's happening. | ||
| The problem is how far does it go? | ||
| What transparency do we have? | ||
| And how are we going to know moving forward when we have to discuss important issues, particularly issues that X or Elon or Trump or whoever doesn't agree, you know, they don't want that discussion out there. | ||
| What happens then? | ||
| Are we going to see a repeat of this last week on X? And that's my concern, Miss Lou. | ||
| So, and definitely the ongoing, Elon says it's not shadow banning, it's called account Thank you so much for your call, Ms. Lou. | ||
| Can we go to Tim in Washington, please? | ||
| Tim, you're on the air. | ||
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How's it going, Maria? | |
| Great broadcast. | ||
| I love hearing you when you're on InfoWars. | ||
| Hopefully you can continue to be on InfoWars in the future if everything works out. | ||
| But with Yvonne... | ||
| I bullhorn the Gates Foundation on a regular basis. | ||
| I can do live streams, but nobody can access the stream. | ||
| It always freezes. | ||
| There's a lot of other things that I've noticed. | ||
| I went through Grok and I asked it to analyze my account and determine whether or not I was shadow banned. | ||
| It said yes, and then I asked it to determine the date. | ||
| It said back in 2023 is when it started. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Did it indicate what it was that caused that? | ||
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Yeah, I called out Bill Gates particularly. | |
| Like, I actually tweeted at him. | ||
| So apparently there's a, you know, you can't tweet at Bill Gates and keep your, you know, the service that you paid for. | ||
| Because you brought up a really good point. | ||
| We're paying for a service, right? | ||
| And if we're censored while paying for the service, I mean, what's the point? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That everybody just, I mean, why pay for the service? | ||
| Grok's free. | ||
| You know, send a message across Elon's bow. | ||
| You know, we are the ones in charge, not the oligarchs. | ||
| And if you want to, you want human rights in this world, you've got to stand up for them. | ||
| So we've got to unite as a population and not take this, because it's systematically just, he's monetized speech. | ||
| And the domino effect from doing that is a tremendous devastation to free speech and expression on the whole. | ||
| Because everybody's going to be self-censoring and it's going to be normalized. | ||
| And we can't allow that to happen. | ||
| Yeah, well, I've openly admitted that there are multiple times where I've had to do that on X, not because I'm worried about monetization, because I know there'll be important things, like maybe I'm just doing a throwaway post right now, but there'll be important things where I need to get, say, life-saving information out, and if my reach is throttled because I said a throwaway comment that I know the platform doesn't like, I won't be able to reach as many people with that life-saving information later. | ||
| And that is literally a digital prison. | ||
| Like, why would I pay for this? | ||
| And my concern, my genuine concern, Tim, is that just like when you go to someone's house and you're trying to talk to the people in the room, And they don't want to listen to you or they're not hearing you. | ||
| How long are you actually going to stay? | ||
| Like, that's the thing. | ||
| And I'm not advocating for a mass exodus of X and I'm not saying, you know, like the leftists go, I'm leaving now. | ||
| I'm going to Blue Sky, the pedo app. | ||
| You know, I find that so lame. | ||
| But what I'm talking about is like an organic... | ||
| For example, Instagram, I was onto my third account and I was just so over it because my reach was throttled. | ||
| In some cases now I get more reach on Instagram than I do on X, to be honest with you, which is really bad because I have a lot less people following me on there. | ||
| But, you know, at one point it's like, why would I bother using this anymore? | ||
| I'll just try something else. | ||
| It's already hard enough to manage, you know, one platform, let alone try and do it with censorship going on. | ||
| And I'm concerned that the place that really is the public square where we can make a difference is going to become that. | ||
| I don't want to see that happen. | ||
| I want it to be better. | ||
| I want us to be able to actually talk about things without being censored. | ||
| Do you think that that's the direction it will head in? | ||
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I would hope so, but that really just depends on the backbone of the American people and how they handle the continued abuse. | |
| I mean, they might have stopped slapping us in the face for five minutes, but I can see their arms building up. | ||
| They're getting ready to do it again. | ||
| We can see that with the CR bill. | ||
| They were getting ready to do exactly what they did in 2020 all over again. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
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You're right. | |
| My biggest concern is that I think Elon's just kind of playing controlled opposition to just try to game the response and try to trick us into thinking, and I love Alex for absolutely everything that he's done, but the algorithm is what's keeping us at bay. | ||
| We sit there and we think that we're posting to the world and the whole world's going to hear it organically. | ||
| That's never going to happen. | ||
| There's an algorithm for everybody. | ||
| Really good insight, Tim. | ||
| Thank you so much for your call. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Let's go to Jamie in Canada. | ||
| Jamie, you're on the air. | ||
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Hi, can you hear me? | |
| Yes. | ||
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Hi. | |
| So I'm calling about the, like, lifting the country caps for immigration. | ||
| Like, I know one of the Trump staffers or someone was mentioning that he wants no country caps for Indian immigration. | ||
| But in Canada, it's really affected us pretty poorly. | ||
| Like, I know a lot of our, like, native-born people are feeling displaced. | ||
| So what's been happening here is that it feels like we have no country cap on the immigration. | ||
| It kind of opened the floodgates as Trudeau being a globalist. | ||
| He sees young working people in other countries as more productive and worth investing in. | ||
| So they're importing en masse people from India. | ||
| And colleges, they can charge them a premium as an international student. | ||
| They've opened the floodgates for the international students. | ||
| But we don't have the resources in these towns to support all these extra people. | ||
| So they all need jobs. | ||
| And the government is subsidizing them to have minimum wage jobs. | ||
| Like, they pay half the wage and the employer will pay half the wage. | ||
| There's these subsidy programs. | ||
| So places like Walmart, Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons, like all these minimum wage jobs that would have gone to young people are now going to foreign people. | ||
| And then for renting, that's driven up rent. | ||
| And it's also lower the standard of renting because you'll have like 25 plus people living in a house Like, slumlords, they'll take advantage of the international students. | ||
| I've seen, like, a bathroom rented for $500. | ||
| I've seen beds rented, four beds in a basement room being rented for $500 or $600. | ||
| They stay in their ads. | ||
| It's preferable to South Asian or Indian people. | ||
| But if white people were to say that in their ad, we're discriminating them and we can get charged. | ||
| When they get into management in jobs, they only hire each other. | ||
| We've seen like at a Taco Bell, one of my friends told me that at Taco Bell, she was in line and a girl brought in a resume and it was Indian people behind the counter. | ||
| They said, sure, thanks for the resume. | ||
| And they threw it out and they said that She's not going to work here. | ||
| So they only hire each other once they get in. | ||
| But these jobs would have gone to the younger generation, but now it's for foreign people. | ||
| Yeah, look, I'm going to say, Jamie, the same thing happens in Australia, and we're now at the point where Australian families... | ||
| They're letting people come in, four or five families, to rent a house. | ||
| The rental prices are so high, the lack of properties now. | ||
| To give you a perspective, Australia has a population of approximately, or did have a population of approximately 26 million. | ||
| They let in over 700,000 people last year. | ||
| That's a huge immigration increase. | ||
| Now, I don't think that's the kind of numbers they're talking about when it comes to H1B. But what I am saying is that this is how other countries in the West have systematically been destroyed. | ||
| We want to make sure that doesn't happen here. | ||
| And I don't think that's what they're talking about. | ||
| I don't think they're talking about that level of immigration, to be honest with you. | ||
| But my point, again, is that people should be able to have that conversation without being gaslit and being told that they're racist. | ||
| because what you're talking about is a very real problem. | ||
| There are Australian families who are living in tents on the street right now because you've got landlords accepting four or five families coming in under one roof that are driving up the rental prices because if you have four or five families, they can afford $700 a week, for example, where an Australian one family on their own can't I'm just throwing a number out there. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| So it is a very real problem. | ||
| I'm going to take one more caller before we go to the break. | ||
| Let's go to Len in Illinois. | ||
| Len, you're on the air. | ||
| God bless you, Maria. | ||
| I've worked in the oil field, and they would go back to Mexico, and they would do really well. | ||
| They'd buy property, build homes, buy livestock, and just prosper. | ||
| And we made the same amount. | ||
| I want to be able to do that here also. | ||
| You know, I was for them, you know, and they would say to me, you should come to Mexico. | ||
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You would do as well, too. | |
| Well, that's a really honest conversation. | ||
| And this is what happens, Len. | ||
| A lot of people come to other countries, a lot of people from countries that aren't doing as well as America or Australia or Canada or the UK, you know, some of these first world countries, Western nations, I should say. | ||
| And $10,000 here... | ||
| Is nothing yet their $10,000 makes you live like a king. | ||
| So imagine what a $70,000 salary, for example, here would do for them there. | ||
| And so, you know, it's very endearing. | ||
| I think I heard Tucker Carlson say some time ago, he's like, I'm actually very flattered. | ||
| That people want to come to my country. | ||
| That means that my country is beautiful and desirable and I'm flattered by it. | ||
| But they've got to come here legally. | ||
| And so that's kind of been the way that people perceived. | ||
| Yes, okay, we'll have people come here legally, but it needs to be done per due process. | ||
| But now we're having a discussion about expanding that. | ||
| And that's where this whole thing has erupted from. | ||
| The tech lords said... | ||
| We want to expand it. | ||
| And people have gone, no, hang on a minute. | ||
| We've got a problem here. | ||
| So, you know, my whole point, Len, is that people should be able to say, share the stories that you just shared without being called a racist. | ||
| You know, that's my whole problem here. | ||
| It's the gaslighting that's going on. | ||
| I really don't like it. | ||
| I think that people like you should have a voice and real Americans should have a voice because that's what they were promised, right? | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| God bless you, Len. | ||
| Thank you so much for your call. | ||
| After the break, we're going to take a few more calls for the rest of the hour. | ||
| I really appreciate everyone who's calling in. | ||
| I'm going to try and get through all of the people on that board that are on there right now, so we won't go ahead and take more calls because I want to try and give everyone equal time. | ||
| I'm just going to keep doing what I do best, which is trying to tell the truth and give people a voice and give real stories a voice And I think that we can't be afraid of labels. | ||
| And I put out something yesterday that was like, this woke right label is really being thrown out in an effort to de-radicalise true right wing, real people with real concerns, with real world problems, actual issues that are being pulled out from under the, you know, the rugs being pulled out from under them in real time and it's not fair. | ||
| It's not fair because clearly their expectation of what they would be getting is being challenged right now. | ||
| And that's what I see. | ||
| And I think that labels and people who are affected by labels are weak and people who throw out labels are weak and the American people are not weak. | ||
| I know that for a fact. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| The AlexJonesStore.com is where I'm encouraging everyone to go to continue supporting this actual free speech platform that is InfoWars. | ||
| I'm so grateful for InfoWars. | ||
| I've been a contributor to these guys for over two years now and it's been such an honour and I count every single time I get to be here with this amazing crew and these amazing people. | ||
| Such an honour. | ||
| I'm grateful for everything InfoWars has done over the years. | ||
| So thealexjonesstore.com is where you go to continue to support that mission, the voices that we're hearing right now, real people that have real concerns, and that is what we need. | ||
| Pardon me, keep doing. | ||
| Trump has just imposed, or I think it was actually Susie Wiles, imposed a social media ban on Cabinet picks after the MAGA civil war over migrant visas. | ||
| Now, this could be indicative of one of two things. | ||
| It could be the fact that Trump's not too happy with the way that some of his people have been handling this. | ||
| Or it could be that the debate's too hot. | ||
| And they're trying to sort of divert away from this. | ||
| I don't know either way. | ||
| I'm not accusing anyone of anything. | ||
| I'm just saying it could be indicative of either way. | ||
| But what is clear here is that there has been an impact and I would encourage people to be cognizant of that impact and don't back down from your positions, whatever they may be, but try to work together financially. | ||
| For the betterment of your nation and the world. | ||
| And so I think that that's a very interesting development. | ||
| And apparently the US Treasury says that Chinese hackers have stolen documents in a major incident from Reuters Chinese state-sponsored hackers breached the US Treasury Department's computer security guardrails this month. | ||
| And stole documents in what Treasury called a major incident. | ||
| Now, is that really Chinese hackers or is there something going on with the US Treasury? | ||
| I guess we will find out as more develops on that. | ||
| But keep your eye on that. | ||
| It's going to be very, very interesting. | ||
| We have a few more callers that I'm going to get through the list. | ||
| So forgive me if I rush a little bit, but I want to make sure I get to everyone that's on the board right now before the end of the show. | ||
| So Rob from Maine, you're next up. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| Thank you for calling in. | ||
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Hello, Maria? | |
| Maria. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
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I've been wondering, are you in Australia? | |
| Are you there? | ||
| Do you live there in Texas? | ||
| I'm an Aussie living in Texas. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah, I know Aussie's getting really bad for the last several years. | ||
| Australia's been a nightmare, Rob. | ||
| It's been an absolute nightmare, and this is why I think that America will really... | ||
| The positive changes that happen here will affect the other nations, the other Western nations, and the whole world that's been suffering through this globalist takeover. | ||
| You know, Canada, the UK, you know, we have freedom fighters in every single one of these nations. | ||
| We really are. | ||
| We're all on the same team. | ||
| So I think America has a chance to really turn this nation around and, you know, affect other nations while it's at it. | ||
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I hope so. | |
| I assume that's part of the reason why you're not there anymore as well. | ||
| Part of it. | ||
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I apologize. | |
| I'm a little bit out of the loop. | ||
| I'm 74, just turned 74. I'm a musician. | ||
| My whole life and also a technician. | ||
| So I got into... | ||
| I found all of this out at the age of 51. Found out after 9-11. | ||
| It was actually two years after 9-11 where I kind of... | ||
| Something hit me over the head, psychically, or, you know, psychologically in some way. | ||
| All of a sudden, I realized what had happened. | ||
| I saw some pictures. | ||
| It didn't make sense. | ||
| You know, 9-11, you know, the buildings collapsed. | ||
| How? | ||
| And then I started doing some digging, and I woke up, okay? | ||
| I woke up, and now, this is 21 years ago now, okay? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Right away, I felt the need, I felt the compulsion to shout it from the rooftops. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| As many of your listeners will sympathize with that, I expect. | ||
| I went on the air, back then we had cable access TV like Alex started out with, right? | ||
| I responded to a To a guy in the local paper, this is upstate New York, Binghamton, New York, and I found a letter to the editor in the local paper who was in the same line of thinking as I was. | ||
| I said, holy shit, I've got to get a hold of this guy, right? | ||
| And we got together. | ||
| Sorry for the... | ||
| I won't do any swear words anymore. | ||
| So we got together. | ||
| We did a thing for... | ||
| Well, eight years. | ||
| I did it by myself for another eight years, so 15 years. | ||
| I did my own show on my own dime. | ||
| I never, you know, tried to monetize it or anything, and I think I made some impact. | ||
| You know, so I'm kind of a veteran at this, but I'm a little bit slowing down here. | ||
| I don't even know all of the implications of the HB, this HB1 controversy, to tell you the truth. | ||
| One thing I would like to say, I kind of want to say, Alex, because having just told you what I've been through, I almost immediately, my friend that I discovered there in Binghamton at that time turned me on, Alex Jones, in Full Wars. | ||
| And I've been following him ever since. | ||
| So it's been 21 years since then. | ||
| And I love Alex. | ||
| I admire him. | ||
| I think he's for real. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| But, uh... | ||
| I wanted to say to some of the callers in, please don't advertise and pitch for the products when you call in. | ||
| I mean, that's just so annoying because there's already enough ads. | ||
| Thank you, Rob. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I actually, I like the fact that callers do that because it lets the community know, you know, the info warriors know that they love the products, that they work, and I think a personal endorsement is nice. | ||
| You know, so that's my opinion. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But really appreciate your story, Rob. | ||
| It's always good to talk to a veteran in the info war. | ||
| Thank you so much for calling in. | ||
| We've got a few more people to get through that I really want to talk to you all. | ||
| So Jake in Ohio. | ||
| Jake, you're on the air. | ||
| Hey, Maria Z, the crocodile dundee of the outback me. | ||
| I would have said a female, but you got some big cojones. | ||
| But no. | ||
| They're assaulting us with immigration, man. | ||
| You know, and like, you know, if you want to change something, change those countries. | ||
| Get them a constitution. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, use your money for good, man. | ||
| You know, quit dominating us with it. | ||
| You know, We're just trying to save ourselves and our culture. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, I understand. | ||
| I do understand. | ||
| It's almost like they can't be trusted with their money, man. | ||
| I understand, but I also do understand, Jake, the whole discussion around progress, competing on the world stage. | ||
| We do have now the AI race, which I despise, by the way. | ||
| I think AI is going to ruin the world. | ||
| But we do have this arms race for AI and nations that don't get on board are going to fall behind. | ||
| I'm willing to hear that argument is what I'm saying. | ||
| I hate it, but I'm willing to hear it. | ||
| So that is one thing, but denying the abuse of that H-1B is another. | ||
| And I think that there's been an acknowledgement that there is an abuse of that. | ||
| My concern is in the midst of all these problems, we're hearing about expanding this program. | ||
| And it's like you said, we've got these problems here and we need to focus on this. | ||
| And more broader than that is the fact that people are being censored over it and the American people want to be heard. | ||
| They promised they would be heard. | ||
| And so that's kind of what I'm hearing from every caller that's called in. | ||
| Like, people just want to be heard and understood and not be gaslit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, like, I appreciate these people too, man. | ||
| I've read, like, the Bhagavad Gita and all this. | ||
| And the temples over there in India are amazing. | ||
| Like, these people are good people. | ||
| They're not bad people. | ||
| But... | ||
| I want to be an American. | ||
| It's just nonsense that these people call us racist for just being American. | ||
| But yet they laud our company over us, or our country over us. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| It's mind-boggling. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Elijah was giving those points before where you were allowed to be racist. | ||
| I hate that word, but let's just use it. | ||
| You're allowed to be racist against whites or Europeans or whatever, but you can't be racist against other nations. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Why are white people the only ones that aren't allowed to speak about how great being white is? | ||
| Like, you can say, I'm an Asian, I love being Asian, Asians are the best, and no one says anything. | ||
| But if you say, I love white people, white people are the best, you're all of a sudden the devil. | ||
| And it's just wrong. | ||
| It's so wrong. | ||
| And so racism is allowed against whites, and whites aren't allowed to be racist back up. | ||
| I hate that double standard. | ||
| And I'm not saying that America's only white people. | ||
| I'm just talking about that particular standard. | ||
| If you want to say, well, we just want Americans to be American, and there's a lot of people that aren't white that are American, obviously, but it's like we just want Americans to be American, and even that's racist. | ||
| So what is America? | ||
| Well, people were told it was one thing. | ||
| Now is it being painted as something else? | ||
| It's getting very murky, Jake, so I agree with you and I think you have the right to say these things without being labelled as some sort of racist. | ||
| That's my opinion. | ||
| Thank you for your call. | ||
| Godzilla in Wisconsin. | ||
| Hey, Maria. | ||
| Happy New Year. | ||
| Can you hear me okay? | ||
| Sure can and Happy New Year, Godzilla. | ||
| Yeah, and I always love when you host because I'm a big fan of your accent and I think... | ||
| With Elon Musk, like, I don't know, in the H-1B visa debacle, I don't know who his PR people are, you know, that they would let him say something like this and let this get spun out of control. | ||
| But, you know, he's like a new rabbit-holer. | ||
| You know, he's just recently, the past few years, taken the red pill and kind of changed. | ||
| So, you know, people are going to make mistakes, and the math is just not on his side, because if you compare, like, current 2024... | ||
| Like, a hundred years ago in America, average yearly wage and then the price of the major expenditures, a house, a car, you know, let alone groceries and energy, we're in a worse situation by multiple times, a Great Depression, and the people of America really need to get bailed out, you know, and they want America and they want it now. | ||
| That's understandable. | ||
| And... | ||
| It kind of makes me wonder sometimes if this is maybe a smokescreen for something else. | ||
| Obviously, we have the war with Russia and this possible new pandemic. | ||
| They could just do a rerun. | ||
| They love reruns. | ||
| Or, you know, also Netanyahu's blitzkrieg. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Yeah, it could be a combination of absolutely all of these things. | ||
| And again, going back to the core of my concern, you said, you know, who are Elon's PR people? | ||
| I'm not even sure that he has any. | ||
| And maybe that's even more terrifying because this guy's about to run Doge and he's telling the American people he's going to go to war with them and seemingly banning people who disagree with him. | ||
| Like this is, you know, it's really problematic. | ||
| I think, again, it just all comes back to free speech and people being allowed to say something. | ||
| And if a war is being declared on people that disagree with certain objectives of the tech oligarchy, then is it really a democracy? | ||
| Did America really take the democracy back from the... | ||
| Dictatorship of the Democratic Party? | ||
| Or is it just now a tech oligarchy? | ||
| Which one is it? | ||
| And I think that it's really worthwhile that people continue to ask these questions and challenge. | ||
| I'm not saying that Elon won't make mistakes. | ||
| Every single person's going to make mistakes. | ||
| Vivek clearly made a mistake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But be humble about it. | ||
| Address it properly and don't gaslight people and pretend that that didn't happen. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| People, that's how you show people that you have contempt for them and you think they're stupid and people aren't stupid. | ||
| So that's my thoughts on that. | ||
| All right, we have three more callers and ten more minutes. | ||
| Paige from Texas. | ||
| Let's get to Paige. | ||
| Hi, Paige. | ||
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Hi. | |
| I just wanted to offer a perspective that I'm not hearing, and that's from the American white female engineer, which is there's not very many of us at all. | ||
| And I remember my first interview ever that was about 10 years ago. | ||
| I was asked specifically, how are you going to handle working with foreign men who treat women poorly? | ||
| And I'm sitting there thinking, God, I mean, I'm in California. | ||
| And you're not going to hear, I mean, I'm in California. | ||
| Why is this happening? | ||
| And they treat women very poorly. | ||
| They treat Americans poorly. | ||
| And I want people to think about this is not a race issue. | ||
| This is a culture issue, particularly a culture that embraces a caste system. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I see it every day. | |
| We will be on a meeting that will take twice as long because two Indians are arguing with each other. | ||
| They won't listen to each other because they're in different cast. | ||
| It wastes time. | ||
| And as far as your question about them trying to justify we need the experience, we need the talent, They're not good. | ||
| I've seen the worst engineering in my entire life in the last four years. | ||
| So, Paige, having all of those experiences, how do you feel being told that you're just a racist and that people who think like you are just part of a Russian bot operation? | ||
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It makes me livid. | |
| Right. | ||
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Livid. | |
| Because it's my every day I deal with these men. | ||
| And it's every day... | ||
| And I don't like being called a drama queen either by a certain person who owns this platform, so just saying that. | ||
| My particular town has gone from almost zero Indian to 35% Indian in four years. | ||
| Americans are leaving. | ||
| They can't afford it. | ||
| Every new house is being bought out by HB1. This is an invasion, even if it's, quote, legal. | ||
| And like the person said, they absolutely only will hire Indians once they get into a hiring position. | ||
| Well, it really helps to have some perspective from someone who's been through it. | ||
| Paige, thank you so much for calling in and sharing that. | ||
| I think it's very important and I can attest to the fact that the things that you're documenting in terms of when you do bring a lot of people in, in Australia it's people from India and China and the same problems are there. | ||
| Australians can't afford housing, they move away, you've got families on the street, this is what it eventually leads to. | ||
| So it just depends on how big that expansion is, if it really is going to be reforms, well then let's have those reforms but don't insult Americans, don't tell them that they're lazy and that they're not in the top 1% because you sound like you're doing all right. | ||
| Thank you so much for your call, Paige, and I'm sorry you've experienced that, but it's really important for Americans to hear your voice on this. | ||
| Phoenix from New York. | ||
| Phoenix, you're on the air. | ||
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Yeah, well, what I'm concerned about mostly is I believe a lot of these people from other countries are going to fill tech positions with surveillance and, you know, drones and stuff like that and, you know, implementing tyranny, which would be hard for an American citizen to do. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And if they're telling this about us now, they probably have everybody already over here because if you look at Elon Musk, Pretty much his whole gimmick getup is a front for surveillance. | ||
| You know, all surveillance. | ||
| Everything's just for surveillance and intelligence gathering. | ||
| So it's just one big front. | ||
| I don't think the guy's going anywhere as far as Mars. | ||
| That's all horse crap. | ||
| Well, I know that for a fact. | ||
| And everything's just about spying on us and creating this technological nightmare, you know, this technocratic nightmare. | ||
| So we all have to come together just like the other caller said way back. | ||
| That's the most important thing is not being divided, not falling for the left-right BS because they're all working together. | ||
| And this is really crunch time because everything's out in the open, guys. | ||
| We can see everything. | ||
| Eli's not your friend. | ||
| Gans Patel's not your friend. | ||
| None of these people are our friends, guys. | ||
| They're setting up a technocratic nightmare. | ||
| They poisoned America. | ||
| A lot of people have ticking time. | ||
| We got to get to the bottom of that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There's a lot of things we got to do. | ||
| But the most important thing is we really have to come together and remember pebbles in a pond, everybody. | ||
| No good deed is too small. | ||
| No matter what you think, any little way you could push back or come together, and every American's got to put their hands down and come together right now. | ||
| It's freaking crunch time, guys. | ||
| Well, Phoenix, I share your concerns about the technocratic dictatorship that could emerge as a result of some of these partnerships. | ||
| For example, Elon's SpaceX and Palantir recently announced this joint venture. | ||
| And the CEO of Palantir, Alex Karp, openly said once that he dreams of shooting down his enemies with drones. | ||
| And then Palantir recently just did that drone show. | ||
| I'm going to do a stream on this, on Rumble next week, digging into this a little bit more. | ||
| By the way, you can follow me on there, Z Media on Rumble, all one word, ZEEE Media. | ||
| I will do a live stream digging more into Palantir and the technocrats and how potentially... | ||
| You know, Elon plays into that. | ||
| What could it be? | ||
| I don't think that it's a bad thing to have these conversations and be wary. | ||
| It doesn't mean that we see him as the enemy. | ||
| It's just saying, you know, well, let's be wary of any man, any single man. | ||
| I don't think we should have absolute trust in anyone in power. | ||
| That's just me. | ||
| And, you know, accountability is for all. | ||
| So that's what I think, Phoenix. | ||
| Thank you for your call. | ||
| Last caller, Travis from Arkansas. | ||
| Travis, you're on the air. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Sure can. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Well, hello America. | ||
| I wanted to touch a little bit on Elon Musk, because he's been the center of a lot of hot controversy here recently. | ||
| Something to keep in mind, you know, nobody's right about everything every time. | ||
| You know, Elon's done a lot of good, but that doesn't mean he's always going to be the authority on any singular issue. | ||
| And just keep in mind that this whole movement is us, the people. | ||
| And there's a lot of us out there with a lot of different ways of thinking. | ||
| Elon's socially liberal. | ||
| A lot of people have come from a lot of different walks of life. | ||
| We've got Meha. | ||
| We've got traditional lips like Kennedy. | ||
| And, you know, Tulsi Gabbard's defected recently. | ||
| She's Republican now. | ||
| We've got centrist and all kinds of people out here. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Be open to discussing ideas with people who are new to the red pill movement, so to speak. | ||
| Because there's going to be a lot of them and nobody's going to have all of the right answers all of the time. | ||
| Absolutely agree with you, Travis, and that's the point I was trying to make where, you know, we do all have different opinions. | ||
| Right at the start of the broadcast I was saying the beauty of the right is that we're not a cult and we are going to have different ideas and I'm sure you would agree, Travis, that Conservatives could have a disagreement with their friends or their family, have a really heated debate and in five minutes' time be having a beer together or whatever the case may be. | ||
| you know, I don't drink, I'm just saying, you know, maybe that's what they do. | ||
| You know, so it's like that's our nature. | ||
| But what happened this week was when people were pushing back, seemingly they were punished collectively for it, and that's terrifying. | ||
| It's terrifying moving forward, and it's disingenuous to bill yourself as free speech if that's what you're going to be doing to people, and not just Elon but the X platform collectively, And so we have to overcome that hurdle. | ||
| We have to not pretend it's not happening or blame it on Russian bots, as some conservatives are doing. | ||
| We have to be honest about that and make sure it doesn't happen again. | ||
| And maybe Elon has to be educated and On how, you know, being red-pilled actually operates. | ||
| It actually operates in debate. | ||
| It actually operates in sometimes heated debate. | ||
| And that doesn't mean everyone's turned on Margot or turned on Trump or, you know... | ||
| And someone made a really good point just before. | ||
| A caller said, you know, we've got to remember Elon's not the president. | ||
| It's Trump. | ||
| Elon's a private citizen like all of us. | ||
| And yes, that's true. | ||
| But he's also been entrusted by Trump to run Doge. | ||
| And so... | ||
| And he's currently got... | ||
| He's the owner of the largest town square in the world. | ||
| And so that's why he's going to be under scrutiny. | ||
| And I think for a really long time he was used to people just really fangirling him because people were a fan of the things that he was doing. | ||
| And this is the first time he's really come under any really... | ||
| You know, strong scrutiny by the conservative movement. | ||
| And we're not nice about it. | ||
| You know, we are tough people. | ||
| We're people who withstood the greatest psychological operation in all of history. | ||
| We withstood a worldwide democide by way of lethal injection mandated on populations. | ||
| We withstood headlines calling for us to be gassed and put in camps and God knows what else, some were put in camps. | ||
| We withstood, over the past three, four years, we've withstood unbelievable warfare, information warfare, propaganda, absolutely everything. | ||
| And we're not about to, after all this time, we've been politically activated. | ||
| We're not about to be placated and we're certainly not about to start trusting people. | ||
| Without any form of having... | ||
| What am I trying to say here? | ||
| We're not going to blindly trust anyone. | ||
| And this is a good thing. | ||
| You wanted us politically activated. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| We're politically activated. | ||
| Now we're going to hold you to account and we're going to have heated debate and it's going to be healthy and we're not going to accept being told that we can't have this debate. | ||
| That is... | ||
| The movement that anyone who joined MAGA, from what I see, signed up for, they signed up for that. | ||
| And that's the way forward. | ||
| And anyone who wants to avoid debate and silence it is very quickly going to be rejected by people who, above all else, value free speech. | ||
| That is the number one American value, is freedom of speech. | ||
| And if we're not If people aren't living by that and if they're trying to squash that, they'll very quickly become the most unpopular person on earth. | ||
| And so I don't want to see that happening, you know, to anyone really, because it's not nice to be the subject of scorn. | ||
| And I know he has been on the topic of Elon specifically, but there's a better way to handle these things. | ||
| And I just want to remind people, don't let anyone gaslight you. | ||
| Don't let anyone tell you that what you see isn't real. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| I'll see you all tomorrow. | ||
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