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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, December 4th, 2024. This is the InfoWars War Room.
Still right here on air in the InfoWars World Headquarters in Austin, Texas.
Still here.
Still here, ladies and gentlemen, and we got some wild stuff going on today.
In Washington D.C., the Supreme Court is hearing arguments from a transgender lawyer on why Transgender care for children should not be outlawed.
Now, this is happening at the state level.
This is specifically involving a case in Tennessee.
So we can look at some of those details.
But we have some soundbites.
From the proceedings today.
And then some sights and sounds from outside of the Supreme Court building.
But isn't this really a sign of the times of where we're at?
It's so insane.
It's so ludicrous.
It's completely bonkers.
It's clown world.
That we're having discussions about whether children have the right.
I mean, that's what they're trying to argue here.
Or the necessity is really, I guess, the argument.
Have the access to trans care.
Genital mutilation.
Chemical castration.
This is bat crap crazy stuff.
This is liberalism.
You wouldn't hear these arguments if it was about children smoking cigarettes.
Children drinking alcohol.
And so many other things where we have age limits.
But, oh, doing permanent damage to your body, to your mind, to your psychological state.
Now we accept it.
But see, it's all based on this idea of modern-day liberalism that somehow, if you're against this, then you're a bigot.
And they're able to pick these issues And draw that straw man.
It's like, oh no.
And then just wait until you hear some of these arguments.
So we got that.
And then maybe the other sign of the times would be what's happening in the Daniel Penny case, where now people have gone and kind of done some background research on Have there been other instances where people have had to defend themselves or defend others on the New York City subways and it resulted in the deranged person dying?
Actually, there have been.
There have been.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
Hmm.
owen shroyer
What was different about those cases and the Daniel Penny case?
And so there's another sign of the times in that story as well.
We do have some political news.
Trump making some announcements with his next administration.
And then the Democrats plan to sabotage the Trump agenda at the state level.
And then the Democrats plan at the congressional level with the four fake Republicans in the Senate, which we have a name for, we came up with last night.
And then a crazy story also in New York City.
UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot outside New York City Hotel in premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
And we have the security footage of this.
This looks like it was a professional hit.
And when you look at Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO... Who was facing a DOJ investigation and a lawsuit.
This thing has all kinds of conspiracy theories now swirling around it.
Not to mention, FBI whistleblower coming on and a gun rights activist in studio.
We got a ton of news today.
46 days and 19 hours until Inauguration Day.
And things will continue to get crazier.
As you have Democrats at the state level already making moves to try to stop the Trump agenda.
Democrats at the local and city levels already making moves to try to stop the Trump agenda.
Who knows what they might try to pull on January 6th when it comes to the certification of the election.
But it looks like that's going to be dead on arrival.
It looks like the Jamie Raskin plan to stop the certification will be dead on arrival as all the cases against Trump are now either being dismissed, falling flat, or being postponed until 2028. Now Trump has announced a couple more nominations today.
We've got that.
We're going to have a deep dive into Kash Patel and then why the FBI is And the deep state are so scared of him with former FBI agent and turned whistleblower Kyle Serafim joining me in the second hour.
But the White House press corps recoils at Donald Trump threat to shake up briefing room.
And you have to understand something about politics and the nature of people That are dying to be involved in it.
It's very likely you listening to this probably want nothing to do with politics.
It's kind of like me.
Like, oh, you should run for office.
Oh, you should be Trump's press secretary.
I really don't want to be.
I mean, I would look at it as an honor and duty to country.
I'd probably do it if I had to, but no, I don't really want to be involved in politics.
But see, these White House politicos, correspondent types, they need this.
They have nothing else in their life.
It's kind of like Chuck Schumer and the Democrats getting in front of the cameras today.
This is what they live for.
They say politics, Washington, D.C. It's Hollywood for ugly people.
It's Hollywood for losers.
And that's really what it is.
And it starts to show...
When these people feel threatened, they're going to lose their limelight.
They're going to lose their purpose.
They're going to lose their meaning in life.
They won't have that political moment where they're in the press gaggle and they're getting access to politicians or they have the limelight.
They have the podium.
It drives them crazy.
It drives them crazy that they might lose that.
It drives them crazy that Trump could take that from them.
But you see it.
And they're already complaining.
Oh, Trump can't bring in podcasters.
Trump can't bring in independent media types.
He can't.
We have an established order of the press in D.C. We've earned our keep.
Yeah, you've earned to be booted.
You have earned the disrespect and the lack of trust that you now have.
That's what you've earned.
We'll see if Trump decides to shake it up.
I kind of don't really think it's going to happen because the truth is most people don't want to be involved.
unidentified
They don't.
owen shroyer
They don't want to go to that crappy White House press room Every day.
They don't want to deal with the political types.
They don't want to deal with Washington, D.C. They don't want the job.
These podcasters that Trump did the tour on, they got it great.
They got a great life.
They do whatever the hell they want.
They make plenty of money.
You think they want to go to D.C.? You think they want to live like you rats?
So it's funny to kind of see them shaking over this idea.
I don't even think it's going to happen.
But it is fun to watch them shaking.
Oh, I might lose my press pass.
Oh my gosh.
I might lose my seat in the White House press room.
What will I have?
They need it.
They need it.
And here's a perfect example.
And you can see this.
You can see this with Chuck Schumer getting asked questions today.
I don't even care about this clip.
It's meaningless, except you can just see it.
This is what they live for.
They love to be in front of the camera.
They love to be behind the microphone.
They love the attention that they get.
They love the headlines about them.
They love the noise of it all.
They don't care about America.
They don't care about helping America.
They don't care about telling the truth.
They don't care about their constituents.
They don't care about anything other than themselves.
And they just live for those cameras in their face.
They just live for the screaming media holding up their cameras, holding up their microphones, shouting at their questions.
They need me.
They want me.
They're looking at me.
I'm going to be in the news.
The country goes to hell.
They don't give a damn.
They're there for them.
They're there because they want to be in the press.
They want to have the headlines.
They want to have the cameras.
They want to have the podiums.
And now that that's changing, they're freaked out.
And it's not just the media.
It's the politicians as well.
They're afraid that real Americans are going to start getting involved in politics.
And then these low-life losers...
Are going to have to go out and find a real job.
Scares them to death.
They have no popularity without politics.
They have no attention.
They have no gravitas.
No one cares about them.
They're scared to death that their entire way of life is coming to an end.
The modern day politico type.
The closeted homosexual.
The wannabe Hollywood actor and actress.
They're scared to death.
They're going to lose it all.
D.C. is the last place where these scumbags can go get rich and famous.
And it all might be coming to an end.
And you can just see it today in clip 18. If you guys just want to put it on the screen and we'll get some of this news.
But you just see it.
They're just sitting there just, oh, they just love the cameras.
He doesn't even answer a question.
They can't talk about the pardon and how they lied to the people.
He just loves all the cameras.
He loves the people needing an answer from him.
He loves the dozens of cameras and microphones and the headlines and the podium.
It's all about me, dirty rat Chuck Schumer.
unidentified
One of the dirtiest rats ever in politics.
owen shroyer
Look at me.
Talk to me.
Point your camera at me.
Write your headlines about me.
Me, me, me.
I'm Chuck Schumer.
And we'll stop Donald Trump's agenda and you'll talk about me.
And we'll make America a worse place to live, but as long as you talk about me and put the cameras on me, this is what we must rid ourselves of And now it's just so out of control with the bureaucrats as well.
So, Donald Trump makes some announcements today.
Monica Crowley, nominated to serve as Ambassador, Assistant Secretary of State, and Chief of Protocol of the United States of America, Monica will be the administration's representative for U.S. hosted events,
including America's 250th birthday in 2026, the FIFA World Cup in 2026, and the Olympic Games in Los Angeles in 2028. I really like Monica.
She's a great person.
Really against the deep state.
I talked to her earlier, congratulated her.
Great job.
Great job, Donald Trump.
Congratulations, Monica.
A great role to have, too.
And then Peter Navarro will return to the next Trump administration.
We'll see.
The Democrats will try to stop this.
We'll see if the anti-Trump Republicans, which, by the way...
I've been calling them the Anti-Freedom Caucus, but that doesn't really stick.
It doesn't really ring off the tongue.
So last night I put up a poll on X or a question on X. What should we call the anti-Trump senators of Thune, McConnell, Murkowski, and Collins?
And you could throw a couple others that are kind of in that circle of swampies like Lindsey Graham, but Lindsey Graham won't always be anti-Trump.
He'll be against some of his appointments, some of his policies, but he'll also cozy up and figuratively rub Trump's leg when he has to.
So he doesn't really fully go into that.
No, it's the four-senator voting bloc that they can try to stop any agenda with.
Of Thune, McConnell, Murkowski, and Collins.
And I said last night on X, what should we call these four senators?
And we took a bunch of responses.
And it was actually the great Fleckus Talks, friend of the show, who suggested we call them the rats, Republicans against Trump.
So we're going to call them the rat squad.
We are going to call...
Thune, McConnell, Murkowski, and Collins, the rat squad.
That sticks.
That's nice.
So, shout out to Fluckus Talks suggesting that idea last night to me on X, and then we posted that this morning.
Peter Navarro's back.
Trump said this morning, I am pleased to announce that Peter Navarro, a man who was treated horribly by the deep state or whatever else you would like to call it, will serve as my senior counselor for trade and manufacturing.
During my first term, few were more effective or tenacious than Peter in enforcing my two sacred rules, buy American and hire American.
He helped me renegotiate unfair trade deals like NAFTA and the Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement and moved every one of my tariff and trade actions fast.
The senior counselor position leverages Peter's broad range of White House experience while harnessing his extensive policy, analytic, and media skills.
His mission will be to help successfully advance and communicate the Trump manufacturing, tariff, and trade agendas.
Peter Navarro is back, and good for him.
We should be able to get him confirmed, but again, the rats...
The rat squad may try to block that.
We shall see.
But I think the thing is going to be so overwhelmed with all these nominees.
They're going to have to pick and choose who they want to block and who they want to allow to get through.
And now the big debate is being had over Pete Hegseth.
Let's just kind of show you a timeline of how this goes.
So first, it's yesterday.
Senate scrutiny grows for Trump's defense pick, Pete Hegseth.
And it's Lindsey Graham.
And it's Joni Ernst.
As well as your rat squad.
So that's, so, you know, Graham is kind of like, again, he kind of can float.
He'll float back and forth.
Sometimes he'll coddle up to the rats.
Sometimes he'll coddle up to Trump.
Whatever benefits him at the time.
Whatever his owners, let's say, tell him to do.
Whatever benefits him and the people he serves.
The special interests.
Then it was Senate Republicans hedge on Pete Hegseth support after latest controversy.
And then today it was GOP senators defend Hegseth after a private meeting.
And then it was zero Senate GOPers oppose Pete Hegseth for defense pick as he vows to never back down amid misconduct claims.
Now, this whole thing is crazy.
The genesis of this is a unsourced 10, they claim 10 unnamed sources at NBC News, 10 unnamed sources.
Meanwhile, You have all the people that have worked with him over the years at Fox News and other outlets defending him, putting their names to the defense, stating it publicly that they believe all the charges are bogus.
You know, typical charges involving women and drinking.
I mean, really?
Do we want to talk about drinking at D.C.? I mean, some of these politicians have fridges full of booze.
We just witnessed the Kamala Harris campaign.
Nancy Pelosi probably has her own problems.
But, oh, he might be drinking on the job.
He might mistreat women.
Well, what about the secret congressional fund?
Millions of dollars to pay off Sexual allegations against congressmen and women.
What about that?
Oh no.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's Pete Hegseth.
And it's because the liberals don't like him.
It's because the deep state doesn't like him.
He actually does like America.
He actually will act in the way he thinks is best for America.
So he can't have that.
He can't be involved.
But what's the truth?
The truth is that they'll probably, I think they'll probably block him, unfortunately.
Now, he had a meeting with Trump earlier today.
Trump said, keep fighting.
Last night, there were reports that Trump was considering DeSantis for the role should Hegseth bow out.
But Trump told him keep fighting.
Hegseth said he's going to continue fighting.
My guess is the rat squad is not going to let him get through.
And then Lindsey Graham will kind of be waffling and Ernst will kind of be waffling and they'll just go whichever way they think is more advantageous to them.
But I think the rat squad could stop Pete Hegseth.
And we shall see.
We shall see.
But he said he's going to go through with it.
And I actually think it'll be a good thing, even if he doesn't get through, to just go in there and clog up the works, make them focus on him.
Maybe we can get some other people confirmed, slip some other people through the cracks, and he can just take the heat.
If he doesn't get in, so be it.
We'll get somebody else.
But it's not zero Senate GOPers.
That's somebody that supports them just trying to change the narrative in the headline.
I guarantee you the rat squad is already saying we don't want to support this guy.
And Graham and Ernst behind the scenes are probably waffling saying, oh, I just don't know.
We need to know more.
Because Washington, D.C. is known for its integrity.
And Washington, D.C. is known for its ethics.
Obviously.
Obviously.
You have Democrat Representative Jim McGovern breaking down on the House floor today over some of these nominees.
Well, let's break him down.
unidentified
Here it is in clip 10. His new attorney general pick, an election denier.
The person he tapped to lead Health and Human Services, he thinks tap water turns kids gay.
His defense secretary, I mean, this guy is probably dropping out momentarily.
Apparently, he drinks on the job and paid to cover up his sexual assault allegations.
owen shroyer
Apparently, he says.
unidentified
Even his mom doesn't like him.
owen shroyer
Pause it.
unidentified
Pause it.
owen shroyer
Election denier.
These people are the election deniers.
The water's turning the kids gay.
Well, I mean, I guess you've seen the atrazine meme, haven't you?
So, okay.
And he's talking about RFK Jr. It's just crazy.
Allegedly, apparently, has problems with alcohol and women.
And his mom doesn't love him.
He came...
He went on Fox News with his mom, arm in arm.
They were at the Capitol, his mom, arm in arm, his mom supporting him, saying, yeah, we had some fights in the past.
I love my son, and these allegations are not true.
But don't tell that to Democrat Jim McGovern, ranting and raving on the floor.
What does Jim McGovern know?
I think he'll bow out soon.
Oh, do you know something?
Has the rat squad told you they're not going to vote for him?
Go through with it anyway.
Hegseth, I think, has already decided that's what he's going to do.
So just go through with it.
He'll take it.
He'll Kavanaugh him, and he'll take it, and it'll be fine.
And we'll watch these wicked people, and they're going to expose themselves because, look, I don't know Pete Hegseth.
I know some people that know him and have worked with him.
I've seen the response and, you know, I would imagine something similar would probably happen.
I mean, I've witnessed it.
I've talked about your real social credit.
It's what you do for the people around you.
The reputation you gain from the people around you.
And pretty much everybody that's ever worked with this guy has put their name out there and said, no, Pete's a great guy.
So, good.
I say good.
Go through with it, Pete.
You're going to take the slings and arrows.
They're going to cavan all you at the confirmation hearings.
And you're going to stand up there with your chin high and your chest out.
And you're going to take it.
And maybe they don't confirm you.
But you know what?
It'll be good because...
Because Pete has clearly earned the respect of his colleagues.
Clearly everybody this guy has worked with likes him.
These unnamed anonymous sources, they won't put their names to any of these claims.
Oh, he's drinking on the job.
Yeah, okay.
Do you want to talk about the congressmen and women that might be drinking on the job?
Do you want to talk about other people in the media that might be drinking on the job?
I mean, give me a break.
So now, all these people that like Pete and support Pete, they're going to sit there and they're going to watch their friend get tarred and feathered in this confirmation process, and then they'll get more hardcore.
And then they'll see how corrupt everything is.
And then they'll see how corrupt the rat squad is.
So this whole process is probably going to be good overall, I would say.
But Pete's decided he's going to go through with it.
And he has Trump's blessing.
So there you go.
Gates took the opposite stance.
So that's fine.
Hegseth says, you know what?
Trump, if I have your blessing, I'll go through with it.
And if they do me dirty in the confirmation process, so be it.
Then that'll have to be what happens.
So good.
That's how that's going to go.
Alright, when we come back, we'll talk about...
I mean, this is crazy out of California.
You probably will believe, but you won't believe what Gavin Newsom is proposing to stop Trump's agenda in California.
And then we'll go to the Supreme Court hearings in the U.S. v.
Scrametti case...
Where you have a transgender...
This whole thing is cartoonish.
A transgender ACLU lawyer talking with liberal Supreme Court justices about how important trans kids' surgeries and drugs and everything is.
And the comparisons they make to try to block this law in Tennessee is insane.
Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newscum, actually, Gavin Newscum is how Trump says it.
California Governor Gavin Newscum Newsom requests $25 million from state legislator for anti-Trump litigation fund.
He wants $25 million from the California state legislature to Trump-proof California.
Now, again, all of this is so backwards.
It's just a sign of the times, how corrupt our politicians are.
The proposed $25 million fund would be available to the California Department of Justice and other state agencies to, quote, defend California from unconstitutional federal overreach, challenge illegal federal actions in court, and take challenge illegal federal actions in court, and take administrative actions to reduce potential harm.
Now, what are we talking about here?
Oh, oh, Newsom went on...
And said, we want President Trump to succeed in serving all Americans, but when there is overreach, when lives are threatened, when rights and freedoms are targeted, we will take action.
Rights and freedoms targeted.
You mean like when you shut down the state in the name of COVID and then went out to dinner and laughed and drank?
You mean like the censorship campaigns that the Biden administration set up?
So what are they really talking about here?
They're talking about stopping deportations.
You want to talk about unconstitutional?
Tell me where in the Constitution it says non-citizens have rights in this country.
Tell me anywhere in the Constitution where it says you, the American citizen, have to work and pay taxes so that illegal aliens can come over to our country and get their entire livelihoods taken care of.
By the way, we got more on that.
Tell me where it says any of that in the Constitution.
Tell me where it's unconstitutional to have federal law agencies Handle removal of illegal aliens, criminal aliens.
Of course, it's all constitutional.
It's quite literally constitutional.
It's mandated by law that the federal government removes criminal illegal aliens.
But see, it's all this game that you see right now where, oh, the mayor of Denver and Boston...
I forget all the different mayors that have come out.
It's all about, I'm gonna get in the headlines.
See, it's the same story like Chuck Schumer.
It's all these politicos.
I'm gonna get in the headlines.
I'm gonna get the media attention.
I'm gonna get the interviews.
They're going to be talking about me.
I'm not going to support Trump's deportations.
Oh yeah, well, I'm going to use the police to stop him.
Oh yeah, well, I'm going to stand up and stop him myself.
unidentified
Oh yeah, well, I'm willing to go to jail.
owen shroyer
Oh yeah, well, I'm going to take $25 million and make policy to keep the illegal immigrants here.
I win.
Talk about me!
So what will be the next Democrat to up the ante?
I'll chain myself to a wall.
I'll chain myself to a firehunt.
I will chain myself to a jailhouse.
I will stand at the border and greet them and wash their feet.
So he's going to take money from California that already runs at a deficit, mind you, and he knows all this.
This is going to fail miserably.
So good.
Good, Gavin.
unidentified
Good.
owen shroyer
You want to ruin the great state of California?
That's unfortunate.
But go ahead.
And then Trump will cut off your federal funding and your state will go broke.
So go ahead, tough guy.
Go ahead.
Get your $25 million to Trump-proof your state.
And you know what's going to happen?
You're going to lose your federal funding and And the feds are going to come in and they're still going to remove the illegal immigrants.
Okay?
But don't worry.
He got his headlines.
He gets his interviews.
He gets his time in the sun.
And that's really what it's all about, isn't it?
So what's going to happen next?
Who will be the next Democrat to up the ante?
And they're going to do, I'll do more for the non-citizens.
I'll do more for the illegal immigrants.
unidentified
Okay?
owen shroyer
I want the attention.
I want the headlines.
I want the interviews.
Look at me.
I'm the most hardcore Democrat.
I support criminal illegal aliens more than Gavin Newsom.
Who will it be?
Someone will come.
I will die.
I'm the mayor of Democrat City America.
I'm willing to die for these illegal immigrants.
I'm willing to die for the illegal criminal alien that raped a woman in my city.
I will die for him.
unidentified
Ha ha.
owen shroyer
Who wants to interview me?
It's crazy.
Migrant boy.
Listen to this one.
Migrant boy, 13 years old, and his masked buddies stab a man with brass knuckles knife in Times Square beatdown.
Isn't that nice?
Isn't that loving?
The Ecuadorian teen and his pals approached the 23-year-old victim around 9 p.m., And when the individual wouldn't take the picture they requested, they decided to jump him and beat him up and stab him.
Teenage boys.
Illegal immigrant teenage boys probably in a gang initiation or already in a gang and just going on.
And they know they're above the law.
So again, every policymaker and NGO that had anything to do with this illegal immigrant's travel and housing needs to be charged with aiding every policymaker and NGO that had anything to do with this illegal immigrant's travel and housing Thank you.
And until that happens, this is not going to stop.
And there will be people that die.
People will die.
There will be...
I would almost bet on it.
I would almost guarantee it.
That between now and Trump's next inauguration, another American will either be raped or killed by an illegal immigrant.
And we just have to sit here and take it.
And then they get more rights than you do as an American.
And they get more housing and welfare than a veteran.
And they get fought for harder by the Democrats than their own constituents.
And it's only going to get worse until we get serious about this law enforcement.
But listen to what's going on in Maine.
The housing that they're getting is paid for by FEMA. So they denied it.
So it was 2022, and we played the clips.
Karine Jean-Pierre makes the statements, the White House press secretary, and says, yes, FEMA is allocating hundreds of millions of dollars, whatever the number is, to the migrants.
Because the cities are overwhelmed, the numbers are too great, and so we're going to take FEMA money, we're going to give it to the migrants.
Well, then of course, we saw what happened with Hurricane Helene.
People in North Carolina are still suffering, still homeless, living in tents, winter is coming, Christmas is here, they don't know what to tell their kids.
FEMA has no money.
We do have a billion for Africa.
And these illegal immigrants are living rent-free.
They actually spoke to Savannah Hernandez in Turning Point Action and said, no, we live here for free.
Everything is paid for.
Probably a nicer house than a veteran can get.
And here they are admitting it in clip 12. How much is rent here?
Free.
unidentified
Two years, two years.
After two years, we have to pay the rent.
savanah hernandez
All right, y'all, this is Savannah Hernandez in Brunswick, Maine, reporting to you from the apartments where migrants are getting their rent paid for up to two years.
Now, I wanted to give you guys a first inside look at these units.
The migrants shared with us that they come furnished, so they have a flat screen TV in there, couches, tables and chairs, a bed.
We also asked them as well, hey, are you paying utilities here?
They shared with us that nope, they do not have a water bill, they do not have an electricity bill.
unidentified
And what about the light and the water?
Everything is good.
We don't hate anything.
savanah hernandez
Now I wanted to focus in on this area of Maine because there is a housing crisis going on currently for residents and these buildings were initially created for Maine residents but then it was decided that homeless migrants would be living here.
Now as an American, You can rent out one of these units, but a one bedroom is going to run you about $1,800 and a two bedroom is going to run you about $2,300.
By the way, the average housing price for a house over here in Brunswick is about $480,000.
So there was obviously a lot of outrage when it was first discovered that migrants were going to be housed here for free on taxpayer dollar.
Now I wanted to focus in on Brunswick as well because this is the same county that has received FEMA funding from that same program that spent almost a billion dollars through the fiscal year of 2023 and 2024 on sheltering illegal immigrants throughout the United States of America.
By the way, FEMA coming out and saying that they have run out of that funding We are expecting another hurricane hitting.
owen shroyer
We do not have the funds.
unidentified
FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.
savanah hernandez
This is why I wanted to come up this way.
This is why I wanted to come to Brunswick because I wanted to show you guys a comparison of how the federal government is treating American citizens versus illegal immigrants and migrants in this country.
This is how migrants up in Maine, up in Brunswick are living.
We also went to Bangor.
We went to Lewiston.
And there are African migrants who share with us that they really like it over here, that they've been treated very well.
We spoke to Catholic charities who told us that they are expecting more migrants for actually bringing their migrants up this way.
unidentified
Yeah, so we're expecting up to 150 refugees starting yesterday until September 30th, which is the fiscal year.
And then we also have walk-in clients, which will increase those numbers.
Generally, for refugees that we know are coming, we help them get set up with an apartment.
But we're always looking for other landlords to work with as well.
owen shroyer
So you see, they pretend like it's not government-funded because they use these NGOs.
But really, the NGOs are basically just It's just like cover.
It's like the rat hole for this illegal immigrant invasion.
And they get to come in here and they get everything taken care of.
And it's the same story every city.
They get the driver's license.
They cause car accidents.
They fill up the housing.
They get free housing.
It's all paid for.
Oh, no, no, no.
It's not government money.
It's these charity groups.
It's these NGOs.
Well, they're funded by the government, so it is government money.
But they take their cut on top.
It's the illegal immigration economy.
It's a billion dollar industry.
And they're all getting rich off of it.
And they're stealing from you to facilitate the invasion, to give non-citizens stuff for free, and to just have such a wave, to just have such high volume of the invasion here that they can also bring in hundreds of thousands of children and disappear them into the night.
And they end up God knows where.
It's one of the most evil things that's ever been done to this country, that's ever happened in this country.
And it's coming out of Washington, D.C. It's Democrat Party policy.
It's the Biden administration.
And people need to be arrested and charged for this.
But we don't have a serious government.
We don't really have serious politicians.
And so they likely won't be.
They'll likely get away with the largest invasion in the history of the world.
Total treason against this country.
Child trafficking.
Rape and murder.
Aiding and abetting in those crimes.
And they'll get away with all of it.
And it's really too bad.
Because they should be punished for the innocent children that have died, the innocent children that have gone missing, the Americans that have been put out of their homes and their shelters, the veterans that have been suffering, all so that we can support illegal immigrants in a giant invasion, slush fund, money laundering operation.
Makes me sick.
unidentified
But...
owen shroyer
That's what we get.
That's what we get with the most corrupt government in the history of this country.
We just hope we can start to turn it around.
All right.
unidentified
So.
owen shroyer
At the Supreme Court today.
You had a clown show.
You had an absolute clown show.
U.S. vs.
Skirmeti Trans teens just want to have normal childhoods.
And of course, isn't that ironic?
A normal childhood is now genital mutilation, according to these liberals.
That's now a normal childhood.
Cross-dressing, gender confusion and dysphoria...
Mental disorders and genital mutilation is now considered a normal childhood by these liberals.
And of course they're just lying, these sick freaks.
I don't know why they hate kids so much.
I don't know why they want to mutilate their genitals so much.
I don't know why they're obsessed with this issue.
They're truly freaks.
They're truly disturbed.
They belong in mental institutions.
But that's what this case is all about.
And it's based off of a situation in Tennessee where they're banning trans surgeries and care for minors, which should be obvious.
unidentified
Thanks.
owen shroyer
A minor can't walk into a gas station and buy cigarettes or other tobacco products.
I don't think nicotine products either, probably, can't go by in a...
A nudie magazine store, videos, you know, can't go buy marijuana and paraphernalia at a bong shop.
Can't go buy alcohol.
But, oh, you want to permanently maim your body.
And, of course, the arguments for all these things.
Well, why can't a minor buy cigarettes?
Why can't a minor use nicotine or tobacco products or alcohol?
Well, because it's damaging for their health.
Oh, okay.
It's damaging for their health, so we're going to write laws making it illegal until they reach a certain age.
But doing permanent damage by mutilating your body, you can't even get a tattoo.
Doing permanent damage by mutilating your body, by taking pills and chemical castration, that's okay because that's liberal.
That's considered Democrat liberal progressivism.
So get with the times.
Smoking a cigarette has nothing to do with politics.
Drinking alcohol has nothing to do with politics.
But chopping up your kid, you know, having a little trans kid surgery, that's liberal.
Chopping up a boy or a girl with a knife, getting a freak show doctor in there.
unidentified
That's liberal.
owen shroyer
So get on the bandwagon of liberal progressivism.
We chop up kids.
And that's a normal childhood.
Not having a safe neighborhood where you can ride your bike down the street to your neighbor's house.
Not living in a neighborhood where, you know, maybe your neighbors have a pool or you got a neighborhood pool and in the summer you like to go down there for a dip in the morning and hang out with friends.
Maybe you got a local baseball team you play on in the summer.
School basketball team you like to play on.
Maybe you're on the swim team.
Maybe you like to collect cards or play cards with your friends.
Maybe you play video games.
No, that's not a normal childhood.
No, no, no.
A normal childhood is going to some freak show pervert doctor and saying, I think I'm a boy.
I think I'm a girl, but my parents won't let me chop myself up.
Will you do it, doctor?
Yes, little boy.
Yes, little girl.
unidentified
I work for the ACLU. Would you like some drugs and pills?
owen shroyer
Here.
unidentified
Let me show you the knife I'm going to use.
owen shroyer
Yeah, stripped down naked.
Hell, here's my knife.
unidentified
It's liberal.
owen shroyer
That's normal.
That's normal childhood.
Having a pervert doctor, you know, chop you up.
We just want to have normal childhoods.
And you've got liberals from all over the country that showed up in D.C. outside of the Supreme Court.
I mean, there wasn't much of a crowd there.
It was a very awkward scene.
They're playing dance music and dancing.
You know, we're dancing because we want to mutilate children.
I mean, it's a joke.
Your 16-year-old says, hey, I want to drink a 12-pack of beer.
No, you're not old enough.
That's bad for you.
Hey, I want to smoke a bong.
I want to take a bong hit.
No, kid.
Sorry.
You can't do that.
It's bad for you.
I want to go get a tattoo.
I want to go smoke a cigar.
No, you can't do that.
You're not old enough.
Hey, I want to go to the doctor and chop my dinghy off.
Of course, that's liberal.
Wow, I'm so proud of you.
Trans kids rights.
And we're going to have a dance party in D.C. outside the Supreme Court.
We're going to wave gay flags.
Because we're liberals.
It's crazy.
This is actually going on.
The ACLU is behind this lawsuit.
They got this ACLU attorney, a trans ACLU trans attorney has to admit before Supreme Court there is no evidence child sex changes help prevent suicides.
Actually, the opposite.
Trans people have the highest rates of suicide.
It's the highest rate of suicide.
I mean...
It's like, why do we even have to have this discussion?
We shouldn't have to have this discussion.
This stuff should be thrown out and not taken seriously even once.
But again, they just disguise everything with liberal.
And it's like, oh, it's politics.
It's political.
It's policy.
So it's liberal and we have to discuss it.
No, it's perversion.
It's pedophilia.
It's child mutilation.
It should be illegal.
People that engage in it should go to prison.
And anybody trying to argue that this is a real thing should be thrown into a mental institution.
That's how you should be dealing with this.
But no, now we have to have a discussion.
We have to treat it like this is a serious thing.
Like trans kids is a real issue.
We're really talking about this.
And it's a dude...
That's not even a dude.
It's a trans ACLU lawyer that looks like a human dingaling.
Listen to these arguments, by the way.
Is there any difference between boys or girls being given testosterone?
And it's Katenji Brown-Jackson.
She is just a joke herself.
Listen to Katenji Brown-Jackson in clip four.
unidentified
It operates on the body in the same way.
So, what's your basis for saying they're not the same?
I don't think it operates on the body in the same way.
Take testosterone.
If you give a boy with a deficiency testosterone because he has constitutional delayed puberty, that allows him to go through and develop the reproductive organs associated with being a male.
If you give it to a girl, it renders the girl infertile.
So, we have 8 to 12 year olds.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought your reasons for them being different was that you said they were for different purposes.
I'd heard you say at the beginning the reason those two are different is because one wants them to transition and the other wants them for some medical purpose.
Well, to go back to my example in the I don't think anyone would say using morphine to assist suicide is the same treatment as using morphine to manage pain.
It's the same drug, just like it's the same drug here.
But they're being used for fundamentally different purposes.
They have different effects on the body.
And once you take out and recognize medical reality, then there is no argument that our law differentiates between treatments for males and females.
Can I ask you about...
owen shroyer
So Katenji Brown Jackson thinks there's no difference in a boy or a girl receiving testosterone.
I mean, this woman is either retarded or she's just up there playing this liberal mind game, taking this issue seriously.
Now here's Sotomayor saying there's no difference.
Everything comes with a risk.
There's no difference between a trans kid's surgery or taking an aspirin in clip 5. Cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners.
unidentified
So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk.
And the question of how many minors have to have their bodies irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
I'm sorry, counselor.
Every medical treatment has a risk.
Even taking aspirin.
There is always going to be a percentage of the population under any medical treatment that's going to suffer a harm.
owen shroyer
This is so pathetic.
unidentified
So the question in my mind is not, do policymakers decide whether...
owen shroyer
This stupid liberal bimbo thinks she's smart saying this.
Oh, everything comes with a risk.
Yeah.
Because there's a benefit.
The argument here is there's no benefit to mutilating a child.
To chemically imbalance a child, there is no benefit.
That's the argument.
It's just risk.
She says, well, there's a risk in taking an aspirin.
Well, yeah, you got a headache.
There's a risk in having knee surgery.
Yeah, your knee's blown out.
There's a risk in having back surgery.
Yeah, I can't bend over.
Yeah, you're right.
It's called a risk-benefit analysis.
There is no benefit to trans kids.
And that stupid bimbo thinks she's smart.
Like, oh, there's a risk to even taking aspirin.
This argument doesn't hold water.
Liberals, I can't believe we're dealing with these people.
Will we ever find a cure to liberalism?
Will we ever rid this poisoned ideology?
This poisoned politics from our civilization and our culture?
Liberalism, find a cure.
Liberalism, remove it completely from civilization.
It's our only hope, really.
Now, guess who?
You ever notice when you're talking to a dumb person, they always want to speak the most.
There's very few things as risky as a dumb person, as an ignorant person that thinks they're smart.
That thinks they're right.
And guess who speaks the most that's currently on the Supreme Court?
Well, it's Katenji Brown-Jackson.
It's Katenji Brown-Jackson.
Followed by Kagan and Sotomayor.
Of course, Sotomayor.
Katenji Brown Jackson is by far the dumbest woman on this court, probably in the history of the court.
By the way, the person that speaks the least is Clarence Thomas, probably the most brilliant man on the court.
By far the most brilliant and knowledgeable and wise on the court speaks the least.
But the dumbest speaks the most.
It's completely insane.
Here's an example.
This is an example of Katenji Brown-Jackson.
Kind of like you just heard Sotomayor thinking she's smart.
Oh, I'm going to compare trans kid surgeries to taking an aspirin.
Here's an example of Katenji Brown-Jackson trying to sound smart and just talking.
Just to talk.
Trying to compare trans kids...
to interracial marriage.
See if you can make any sense of that in clip three.
unidentified
...being drawn by the statute.
That was sort of like the starting point.
The question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied to both races and it wasn't necessarily invidious or whatever.
But as I read the statute here, excuse me, the case here, the court starts off by saying that Virginia is now one of 16 states which prohibit and punish marriages on the basis of racial classifications.
And when you look at the structure of that law, it looks, in terms of, you know, you can't do something that is inconsistent with your own characteristics.
It's sort of the same thing.
So it's interesting to me that we now have this different argument, and I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten away with what they did here by just making a classification argument the way that Tennessee is in this case.
Yes, I think that's exactly right, that there is absolutely a parallel between any law that says you can't act inconsistent with a protected characteristic.
owen shroyer
So why is Katenji Brown Jackson, who's been on the Supreme Court the shortest amount of time, talking twice as much as every other Supreme Court justice and saying nothing?
Because she has to pretend she's smart.
So she figures, oh, if I just talk a bunch and just say a bunch of long words and confound a bunch of things, then I'll sound smart.
Liberalism has done so much damage to this country.
Modern-day liberal progressivism has done so much damage to our political infrastructure.
I won't say it's beyond repair, but it's almost completely destroyed it, folks.
We are hanging by a thread with morons, with clowns like Katenji Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor on the Supreme Court, and now we have to sit here at the highest level level of law, the highest levels of the courts in this country, and we have to hear and take seriously arguments about trans kids mutilating children.
That's how far we've fallen.
And it's an ACLU attorney that's a trans person himself.
I got this clip of him on CNN. I mean, it's just outrageous.
It's just completely outrageous.
Somebody needs to tell Katenji Brown-Jackson to just shut up.
Know your role and shut your mouth.
You have been on this Supreme Court the least amount of time and you talk the most by far.
What an embarrassment.
My God.
All right.
We've got a guest coming up next in FBI Whistleblower.
We're going to talk about the situation with Kash Patel.
alex jones
And...
owen shroyer
All right, we're about to be joined by FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafim, and he's also done a bunch of great work helping other whistleblowers as well.
He started his own successful podcast, and I have to be honest, I heard him on Sirius XM yesterday morning, and I got a little jealous.
And I said, that was a really good interview.
I want him on my show.
I can't let somebody else just hog this incredible interview.
So we brought Kyle on today.
You were doing such a good job laying into why the FBI is scared of Kash Patel, because it's not just kind of the things that we understand, people that are in political media, you know, the deep state swamp versus the people that are against the deep state, against the swamp.
That's kind of the overt We're good to go.
kyle seraphin
Well, first of all, I think Cash is an excellent and well-qualified person.
That's the one thing that the left is out there kind of crying about.
Qualifications, criteria.
The man has senior executive experience.
He's got experience at high levels at the DOD, the DOJ. He's worked on the intel end.
He's worked on the counterterrorism side.
And he was a federal public defender, which is actually...
The arch enemy, at least they think they are, of the FBI agent out there in the world.
And as someone who worked in the FBI and had probably one of the rarest moments that anybody will experience, I had a federal public defender bring me a case and say I'd like to report a federal crime because they had a client who called in on a recorded line and threatened federal judges.
I've seen firsthand what they don't want to work with the FBI. And so having someone that's been on the other side of the coin, that's seen it from a very empathetic perspective, Point of view, for those that actually engage in the criminal justice system, on the defendant end, I think it's huge.
And if we were living in a non-upside-down world, Owen, wouldn't you expect that the left would absolutely be falling all over themselves excited about a brown man who spent time as a public defender running the FBI? You know what?
owen shroyer
Honestly, it's a telling tale.
I didn't even think about that, but yeah, you're right.
kyle seraphin
He's probably the most qualified guy that's been nominated for this job.
owen shroyer
But isn't that amazing though?
Because that was one of their talking points.
Oh, unqualified.
You can search unqualified Cash Mattel in a search engine and you'll find 100 articles from liberal outlets.
I read his resume on air earlier this week.
It's about as good as any FBI director you can find, if not better.
kyle seraphin
I think it's better.
Most people that have run the FBI, certainly recently, have come out of DOJ, which is to say that someone from DOJ stepped into another role that is part of DOJ and they basically have a very linear experience.
They don't have the experience to say, I've seen it from the other side of the intel agencies.
I understand how the kinetic end works overseas with the DOD. It's a big deal to have someone that has that kind of a background.
So that's number one.
I want to debunk that up front.
I think it's absurd.
What he does represent, though, is an outsider perspective that is not that inside DOJ sort of beltway baseball that we keep seeing.
People have to remember that Chris Wray was a fixer for politicians, and he got hired in as a favor to Chris Christie, and he did the Bridgegate scandal, and he was making like almost nine and a half million dollars the year before he became the FBI director, and he makes less than half a million dollars right now.
That's a big pay cut.
What are you taking for that?
Who do you owe?
What is going on there?
He never even moved his whole family to Washington, D.C. So the guy never even committed to that role.
I just find it very interesting.
Kash Patel has the potential of being the most loved FBI director.
I brought this up to multiple retired agents, by the way, and they all said it.
He has this potential to be the most loved FBI director in history because he could be the thing that J. Edgar Hoover actually pretended to be.
A person that understands how to lead it can actually develop real leadership.
He's not afraid of the media, which would be a really nice kind of change for those of us that kind of cover it and want to see transparency and want to see something forthright.
And he's not kind of like a prissy guy that runs around in a suit all the time.
He could wear a suit, but his suit tends to be more like yours, a little bit more loud, a little bit more flashy, a little bit more character.
And he's also just as comfortable sitting in jeans and a T-shirt and drinking a Coors Light with you.
So all of that stuff makes him a transformational potential figure.
So anyone who's pushing against it, I just think we should start off by saying that they're probably racist.
That must be what's going on there, because I don't see any other arguments against it.
owen shroyer
Well, that's a good point, and that would be funny to see in the confirmation hearings.
People accused of being racist for not confirming him.
We'll see if it sticks.
Do you think...
Well, I already know what you think, but I want to hear you say it out loud.
One of the arguments we heard from Democrats, because Kash Patel, when he goes and does interviews on different podcasts, he said that there is examples of political persecution coming from the FBI, specifically against conservative groups.
So some of the Democrats responding have said there is no evidence of that.
Is there any evidence of political persecution out of the FBI? There's significant evidence.
kyle seraphin
You're a sitting example of it, obviously.
A lot of people from January 6th can also relate to that.
But there's also examples of people on the political left.
What's funny is, is that the political left right before January 6th, if you would have queried them, they would have told you the FBI was the enemy.
They were not our friends.
We have problems with them because they go after black and brown people and they set people up for terrorism cases.
And all of that stuff is actually not that far from being true.
But it's not because they're racist or they're doing something political.
They've just expanded it and included another ideologically helpful thing for what they call IPM, which is integrated program management.
This is, in fact, the way that the FBI operates.
It's not actually doing it.
I don't think out of ideology, at least not on the fundamental level.
They're going after guys like you and pro-lifers and they're going after parents at school board meetings because it's advantageous and it's a lot less expensive for them to take their energies and focus on the easy layup cases that are going to get prosecuted by a DOJ.
And they're going to get what they call statistical accomplishments.
And that's how your senior FBI executives get paid in bonus structure.
That's how the SES service, the senior executives work.
And so when you have them incentivized, they're just going for the lowest hanging fruit.
And it turns out right now that's conservatives.
It's pro-lifers.
It's parents.
It's people that fall underneath the category of domestic violent extremists.
But there is a real mission that could be done.
Now, I'm more than happy to see the FBI dismantled and I've argued about that and there's obviously a lot of personal bias that I have saying that that would be great.
But there's no political capital for that.
Nobody in Congress is going to sit for it.
You're certainly going to have a wailing and gnashing of teeth of people on the left.
So let's embrace the reality of it.
Also, Donald Trump didn't say he wants to do that.
So Donald Trump being the president, he can appoint somebody.
He should appoint someone, like Kash Patel, that actually wants to go in and make the FBI do the thing the FBI ought to do, and more importantly, the thing that people think the FBI actually does, which is law enforcement.
And as you and I have discussed previously, the primary thing the FBI thinks of itself of is an intelligence agency, and that is antithetical to doing law enforcement.
So we need to have it straighten itself out.
It needs to actually do what the American people think for the $11 billion that we all spend on it.
That's all.
It's actually not that complicated.
And he could do that and be loved by people that are apolitical, people that are political on either side of the aisle that work for the FBI. It would be the best thing for my former co-workers to have somebody that actually understood that the problem is nobody respects what they're doing right now.
Not the left, not the right.
The politicians are sort of pandering to it.
But in reality, there's a big gap between credibility and maybe the capability of what the FBI is actually providing for the money we spend on them.
owen shroyer
Well, and I want to talk about Agent Morrell.
I want to talk about your former colleagues.
But I guess to follow up on that, what is the first thing they tell you when you join the FBI? And when did this approach to the FBI's duties change?
kyle seraphin
So there's a couple of little things that are kind of baked into that.
I'm going to dance around your question a bit.
The first thing they sort of tell you is that we're here for the big fish.
This is the FBI. That's what they teach you at Quantico.
We're here for the big felonies, the complex criminal investigations, the really bad people that are defrauding the American government and screwing over the U.S. citizen and so on, right?
The violent criminal organizations that are invading the nation, whether they be from El Salvador or whether they be from Sicily.
It doesn't make a difference.
We're going to go do the big stuff.
And then you turn around and you see what happened in 20, what, 2021. And they're going after grandmas and they're going after pro-lifers and people that would be at my church.
And that's pretty antithetical to what I signed up for.
So there's this big sort of gap there.
But what they tell you is that you're going to be doing something as a criminal investigator.
The job of an FBI special agent, which is what everyone associates with the FBI, criminal investigator is the 1811 job category under the Office of Personnel Management.
And everybody does it.
My first job, though, had nothing to do with criminality.
It was everything about investigations, but it was about non-criminal investigations.
They were called counterintelligence investigations, which is to say they start in a circle and they just spin off all of the people that people knew with no allegation or information that that person had ever engaged in anything untoward, anything disloyal to the United States.
There was no requirement for us to ever try to prove a crime.
And if people understand that the FBI spends an awful lot of time, like 50, 60, maybe 70% of its time dealing with non-criminal investigations, that's why you should be excited about a cash-built hell, Stephanie, because he understands.
He's been saying, like, let him go be cops.
At the end of the day, FBI agents are not supposed to be cops.
But they could be really, really helpful to cops by providing the actual resources like forensic accountants and complex long-term investigation skills and a lab division that would actually go out and do the work that would move the needle for, let's say, violent crime, which seems like it's out of control in a lot of big cities.
So they teach you that it's one thing, but the first minute you get there, the first email address I had...
Was kyle.serafin at ic.fbi.gov.
IC for intelligence community.
And intelligence is not the same.
When you have intelligence mixed up with law enforcement in every single Western democracy and some that were not, that's been called a secret police force.
And I think you've probably experienced that more than most people can.
The fact that they can look into all of your comms without ever having to allege criminality, and then they can find you on some stupid technicality and go after it.
This is not, I think, what Americans on the left should even want.
Like, that's not even liberal.
That's illiberal.
And theoretically, we should have common cause with them.
For some reason, we don't, but I think maybe if Cash does his job, we will.
owen shroyer
Well, that used to be more of what the Democrat Party represented politically, more of what the liberal represented politically.
Things have changed because really, you know, the modern-day liberal is, as you say, illiberal.
The modern-day liberal is actually authoritarian.
And so they just look at these bureaucracies as enforcement of their agenda and their power and to crush their opposition.
And so that's why morale is so low.
And by the way, I mean, I've seen that.
You can relate to it.
It's why you really left the FBI. But I couldn't imagine if I had to come to Infowars Studios every day and somebody gave me something to read that I didn't believe in, I wouldn't be able to do that.
I wouldn't be able to do it.
I wouldn't enjoy my life.
I'd feel bad every day I left the studio.
Thankfully, I don't do that.
I cover what I want.
Like, I was talking to somebody the other day.
I was like, no, I get all my guests scheduled.
And they couldn't even believe it.
I was like, no, I literally talk to all my guests before they come on the show.
I schedule them myself.
They're like, what?
You don't have, like, a team of people?
I mean, yeah, I've got a great crew that'll help.
But, I mean, the point is, these agents, I dealt with it.
When I had to turn myself in and they take my phones and, you know, they go through all the documents you got to sign and everything else, like...
You could tell they didn't like what they were doing.
I could tell that they weren't fans of what they were doing.
I don't want to say too much, but in some way, shape, or form, I could tell they were even a little bit apologetic.
And it's just like, well, what are you doing?
Well, we all got to have a job, I guess.
We all got bills to pay and everything.
So why do you think Patel becoming FBI director would fix agent morale?
Do these agents feel bad for what they're doing?
Do you really believe Patel would help agent morale?
kyle seraphin
I've had agents that spent upwards of 15 years inside the Bureau tell me that the work that they do on a daily basis going after, let's say, transnational organized crime is useful and valuable to their community and at the same time that the agency is irredeemable.
Because overwhelmingly...
The agency has taken on, the FBI has taken on this burden of politicization, and they've marched it out there.
And whether it's real or whether it's imagined is sort of irrelevant because the American people believe it.
Certainly a lot of people that default are law and order types.
People like me who would say, yeah, I'm pro-police when they do their job correctly.
There's always the caveat, as long as they're following the Constitution.
And they haven't done that.
So Patel has the ability, I think the opportunity really...
To dig in deeply, put his hooks into the organization in a way that a director hasn't done before.
Chris Wray certainly didn't.
Chris Wray refers to himself as being bubble-wrapped.
So he has plausible deniability about what the FBI does.
When I exposed that they were going after Catholics in Richmond, Virginia, that was one thing.
He got up and said, I didn't know that, and I was appalled like anybody would be.
Why didn't you know that?
Why didn't you have your hand on the FBI so that you knew that this sort of thing was never going to be tolerated, that First Amendment violations were not acceptable, and that people would lose their job over it and maybe even find themselves in prison like they should.
So because that didn't exist, a lot of the mission set of the FBI is gone.
And you get retired agents.
I did a speech up in Tennessee.
And I had a guy come up to me and he said, hey, how's it going?
Like, I'm really vibing with a lot of what you're saying.
And I said, well, that's very nice.
Thank you.
And he said, I'm a retired FBI agent.
And I said, really?
And he said, yeah.
He said, I retired out of Cincinnati or Cleveland, wherever it was.
And he said, I moved to my new house and I don't even tell people what I used to do for a living.
I've been out for about five years now.
I don't even want people to know what I did.
Not because he was dishonored by what he had done in his career, but because of what the agency has become in the last, let's say, six years or so.
And so that's a dark and sad moment.
To be able to restore the prestige to the badge, which is a good idea.
It's a good thing for America.
I think that would be part of the MAGA agenda, if we're being honest about it.
If we want to make America great again, part of it is making American institutions great again.
And I think that the FBI has always been corrupted and it's always had evil inside of it.
Nobody can deny otherwise.
I mean, even before it was called the FBI under the Bureau of Investigation, they were doing things like raiding communists in the Palmer Raids.
And whether you like communists or not, which I don't, They still have a right to have an opinion.
That's what America is about.
So you can't go after people for their political beliefs or their religions or anything else and restoring that in an equal way, the way only a conservative is going to do right now.
As you mentioned, the left, they're authoritarian.
They're actually fascistic in the most amusing way.
They call Donald Trump the fascist and they're the ones that are using...
Tools like the FBI to go and influence social media and influence the rest of the media out there to push out in a narrative that they want or they're going to punish them.
So that's actually real fascism when you take a government and you apply it to private industry and you make them do your outcomes for them to be successful.
I think he could take a lot of that away and he could make people be proud to be there again.
And the people that don't necessarily like Kash Patel today and there's all kinds of chatter inside the Bureau of people that are scared and they're worried about their jobs.
Wouldn't they feel better if they actually could be proud of it and people from either side of the aisle didn't look at them like an enemy?
I noticed nobody's mad about the DEA today.
It doesn't mean the DEA hasn't done things bad.
I just haven't heard any DEA press be really, really bad because the FBI has been taking all the spotlight.
The ATF used to be the ones, and now it's the FBI. So wouldn't it be nice for them to get out of that spotlight and go back to some decent work of running down bad guys?
And they can do that if they have a focus on criminality and they get away from the intel game.
owen shroyer
I mean, there's plenty of bad guys that are out on the streets.
Might be a job to investigate whatever happened with this UnitedHealthcare CEO with what appears to be a professional hit right there on the streets of New York.
kyle seraphin
So I spent an awful lot of time on this and I'm a gun guy and I've got, you know, probably like a dozen suppressed handguns.
So we've been digging deep into this thing.
This guy looks like a pro amateur type thing, like someone who is aspiring to be a pro.
And you'd be shocked how cheap murder for hire can be in the United States.
Actually, the idea that somebody would go there.
It looks very LARP-y to me because there's a bunch of mistakes on there, but he's icy cold, isn't he?
So he steps into a space, pulls a trigger, has malfunctions on a pistol.
That's not really logical for a professional unless that was a plan.
And there's all this debate right now about people.
I'm in it with all the gun tubers at the moment.
A very interesting, reasonable discussion about what's happening, but the craziest thing for me is, if you want to watch that video, there's a witness really close by.
He's doing it in a well-lit area that doesn't seem really necessary.
There's always a camera in front of a building door.
All those things don't scream professional to me.
There's better ways to have done this, but...
Icy Cold shot a guy in cold blood on the street and then rolled off with what appears to be a suppressed pistol and then, you know, changed clothes and disappeared.
I would not be surprised if they find this guy pretty easily.
There's way too many things unless he really has it mapped out.
Doesn't look like real pro, but looks like maybe aspiring professional, if you will.
That's my take.
owen shroyer
So amateur pro, somebody that gets hired but wasn't professionally trained, say, by special forces or something.
kyle seraphin
Right, yeah.
So look, the way that he produces the pistol, the way that he actually presents the pistol is what I call the tomahawk.
So it's a thing you see in movies, but it's not really a good technique.
It's not the way professionals draw their weapon.
The way that his stance is set up is not reasonable.
You're shooting a suppressed weapon against somebody that means you have the jump on them.
You don't need to shoot them from that distance, so you'd want to get closer.
If you're going to have a bunch of shots anyway, you might as well go and wound them up close in the dark.
So there's a lot of things that don't make a lot of sense there, but...
Guy with gun who accepts money for murder for hire, like, that falls underneath the category, I guess, technically of professional.
I just don't think that this is something that this guy does for a living.
Looking at him, I certainly wouldn't hire him.
owen shroyer
So not necessarily professionally trained.
Well, and you'd think, but again, this is like, you know, this is where the FBI could come in and help just with manpower, if anything, you know, local police.
kyle seraphin
Manpower technique.
This is actually the federal marshals game.
The U.S. Marshals are very good at doing manhunts.
That's what they do.
But the techniques, they're also available in the New York field office of the FBI. I guarantee you they have WID trucks.
They have WID planes, which are things that could pick up electronic signals.
They can track people.
There are ways.
We do it for people that are kidnapped.
We do it for kids that are lost.
The agency has capabilities that are not being utilized the way the American people might want.
A lot of them are being used to track like J6ers and drop geofence warrants down.
And there's an opportunity cost to doing things that are overtly political.
I think Americans in general would benefit, and I think they'll be pleased, assuming our senators do the right thing and confirm Cash Patel, to see this agency return to something that's not in the news every day and not out there offending our sensibilities about our civil liberties.
owen shroyer
Or just get these approval ratings out of the gutter.
I mean, most people have a negative view of the FBI, and unfortunately, rightfully so.
Now, what do you think of the story that's been developing the last couple days?
Trump's FBI pick Kash Patel targeted an Iranian cyber attack.
Quite frankly, I don't buy any of it.
Iranian is like one of the boogeymen that the intelligence agencies, the deep state likes to use to get you to just kind of like, you know, hype up over it.
Like, oh my gosh, Iran again.
Oh, Russia again.
To me, this has intel agencies written all over it.
But what do you think?
kyle seraphin
All right, I'm going to give you some inside scoop here.
This I covered on my podcast this morning for people that want to hear more of it.
The scary thing is this.
I think they're telegraphing something that is very real.
There is a capability within the FBI that if you are being targeted by a foreign intel service, they can open a full investigation into you as the potential victim.
The mechanics of it are actually classified.
It's one of the few parts of the FBI's handbook on how they open cases that is classified, but it's under Appendix G. I've actually brought it up to members of Congress and said there's no reason it actually shouldn't be classified.
What they can do when they know that you are the potential victim being targeted by a foreign power by a foreign intelligence source is they can open a full investigation for you as a victim in order to defend you And they can get all the information they want on you.
And I think it's an overt shot.
I actually shared this with Cash personally.
I think it's an overt shot at the fact that they have a full intelligence investigation into Cash and they're justifying it publicly because they can even add this to their file saying, look, it's been widely reported by CNN and everybody else that he's being hacked by the Iranians.
It gives us full access to go after.
The Bureau can do things like pull all their bank records, all their comms.
It gives you a reason to Although maybe not, depending on how high profile the FISA wants to be.
But if they can get a FISA and go through the FISC, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, all of these things can be justification because theoretically he's going to have access to sensitive information, did previously, will soon.
All that stuff gives them the ability to defend themselves.
I think the FBI is actually sort of firing a shot across the bow saying, we're looking into you and we're going to try to dig up the dirt on you.
I don't like it at all.
And I actually don't think it's quite the boogeyman that you have on The Instinct.
I may be wrong, but the mechanics all exist there, and I know that they can do this.
Legally, they can get away with it.
owen shroyer
Well, and what's the technology called where they can basically spoof a fingerprint, technologically speaking, and they can hack into something themselves and then leave someone else's fingerprint behind and say, see, it was these people.
kyle seraphin
So OTD, which is the Office of Technology, I think it's what it's called.
What is it called?
The Operational Technology Division of the FBI is sort of the covert stuff and all those things have extra, you know, NDAs associated with them.
Anything that I've ever seen over there, I can't necessarily talk about.
But we did see publicly they were talking about various spyware that they were evaluating from the Israelis from a company called NSO. There's a technology that was called Pegasus that got some play.
I talked about it on air with Dan Bongino on Fox a while ago.
There's also another technology that's called Phantom.
Pegasus was kind of like the Trojan horse.
They were like, or it was the red herring.
They're waving it out here saying, pay attention to this.
It's actually for foreign phone numbers.
And this technology called Phantom is actually the one that they can spoof your individual device.
There was all this speculation about Phantoms.
Things like Signal, where you and I may communicate, things like that, where they were saying that these things were hacked.
Tucker Carlson talked about it.
The funny thing is they don't need to hack any of the technology or the encryption in the apps you have if they actually have access to your phone and your hardware.
So that's kind of what you're talking about, being able to access what they call a no-click exploit of any of your personal technology, computer or phone.
That's where those kind of things would come into play.
And can they act like it's someone else?
Yes, because we're never going to see it.
It's all classified.
They're never going to disclose the basis for these investigations.
owen shroyer
Kyle Serafin, always great to have you on.
Tune into his podcast.
Do you think any of the whistleblowers would come back to the FBI just quickly before break?
Do you think they'd come back with Kash Patel?
kyle seraphin
Definitively, some of them will.
owen shroyer
All right.
Thank you.
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
I am going to pile drive through a bunch of news, including some breaking news.
There's a lot of rumor coming out of D.C. these days.
But sometimes...
There's some truth behind the rumors, and it's what people are thinking.
It doesn't necessarily mean action is being considered, but they're thinking it.
So some interesting things happening that I'll tell you about out of the Biden White House.
How many more pardons might be coming from Joe Biden is a question we might have.
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Okay, where should we go?
So, I don't...
This seems...
I chalked this up at about a 5% chance.
But so you're saying there's a chance.
Biden White House, coming from Politico.
Biden White House weighs preemptive pardons for potential Trump targets.
Names being mentioned are Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, and Anthony Fauci.
Now, Schiff lied to the American people about Trump-Russia collusion and the evidence.
Liz Cheney was part of the corrupt January 6th committee, and Anthony Fauci, I mean, there's whole books written on what he's done.
I mean, there's movies made about it.
I don't think this is very real.
What's interesting is they say the Biden White House, not Biden himself.
So there's probably some truth here in that people are thinking, oh, we need to protect others besides Hunter.
You know, we need to protect our other corrupt operatives.
We should pardon them.
But I don't know if this is seriously being talked about or considered by Biden.
What's interesting is now the situation with Hunter Biden becomes even more...
Interesting because it was a blanket pardon for things he'd never even been charged with.
So now you'd have to have a situation where you're giving blanket pardons to people that haven't even been charged with a crime.
So how do you pardon?
What is the language...
What is the presentation that goes into a pardon for an Adam Schiff or an Anthony Fauci?
I'm pardoning Anthony Fauci for any charges of crimes against humanity he may get in the future?
Well, that's...
Okay.
Fire away.
Now, I'm guessing this is mostly just rumor and think tanking.
But boy, that would be interesting.
I'm going to pardon...
Yeah, there's probably proof of what I'm saying there in an opinion piece, why Biden should pardon Fauci and Jack Smith and others.
So we're going to pardon guys that we know are committing crimes but haven't been charged with a crime, but we're going to pardon them because we know they might be charged with a crime in the next administration.
That's how this is supposed to go?
Okay.
46 days.
Let's see.
Let's see what they got for us next.
By the way, Biden is in Africa.
He's falling asleep during the meetings.
I'm not even kidding you.
Go ahead and put clip two on the screen.
Yeah.
There's Joe Biden falling asleep.
Must be tough.
Well, the deal's already done.
His work is already done.
I'm sure he's tired in more ways than one.
So he's just falling asleep.
They already made the deal.
We're going to give Africa a billion dollars and they're going to let us get military bases in West Africa, in Angola.
That's the deal.
Deal's been done.
Cash has been promised.
Bases will be built.
And the victims of Hurricane Helene will continue to suffer and veterans will live homeless on the street.
And Biden falls asleep in the meetings.
That's what you get.
That's what you got.
Oh, more on the pardon issues.
Federal judge denounces...
This is in Los Angeles.
Federal judge, District Mark Scarcy, denounces President Biden's pardon, says he misrepresented Sun's criminal case.
Now, of course, it wasn't politicized.
It wasn't political persecution.
And the judge is essentially saying that.
But the judge is respecting the pardon.
So...
Again, anything that happens from here on out is going to have to come from congressional hearings and any evidence that might just impact future politics or just how people view the Bidens.
But I guess Hunter is just immune from any charges, potentially.
That's the idea here.
Now, this is a wild one.
Hunter Biden accused of owing over $300,000 in unpaid rent.
Is that pardoned now?
Hunter Biden's former landlord claims he stiffed him on a whopping $300,000 in rent.
Sean McGuire says he rented a $4.25 million home in California to the president's son back in 2019. McGuire claims Hunter tried to pay with his art.
Remember those finger painting things he was doing?
His art.
Yeah, he was selling art.
That was totally legitimate.
It was totally legitimate, him selling his art for all that money.
He's so talented.
Nothing sketchy about that, and I guess he owes this rent.
But maybe that's pardoned, too.
Everything's pardoned.
Everything is pardoned.
Even things we don't know about, pardoned.
Incredible stuff for the Biden crime family.
The jury continues to deliberate in the Daniel Penny case.
Facing up to 15 years in prison.
Now, the prosecuting attorney in this deal is a wild case.
Let's read, you know, I just know how this feels.
I can't imagine Daniel Penny has much ease over this current situation.
When you know the whole thing is weighed against you, when you know the whole thing is corrupted against you, and you know justice doesn't even come into the minds of the people involved in this case.
But listen to Daphna Uran.
This is her public profile in Go Magazine's 100 Women We Love.
This is the prosecutor.
In the penny case.
Her track record would make any guilty defendant tremble.
Daphna Uran, assistant district attorney in Manhattan, has investigated and prosecuted scores of the city's most high-profile and notorious homicides.
Daphna's commitment to holding killers accountable, we'll see about that in a second, is fueled by a sense of responsibility as the daughter of a Holocaust survivor with grandparents murdered by Nazis.
In 2019...
She had the opportunity to prosecute neo-Nazi James Harris Jackson, a Hitler fan who said he came to New York City with the intention of killing black men and murdered Timothy Kaufman.
I'm sure she was fair and partial.
It was the first time a white supremacist was prosecuted as a domestic terrorist in the United States.
This prosecution closed a circle for me.
I got to hold a Nazi accountable for killing an innocent person, the senior trial counsel said.
But her idea of holding people accountable doesn't necessarily mean prison time.
When she prosecuted Matthew Lee for inadvertently killing an elderly professor while robbing him in an ATM, she felt that, quote, a long prison sentence was not appropriate under these circumstances and determined to resolve the case in a different way.
Yeah, we'll have more on that in a second.
In collaboration with the victim's family who got to see the defendant as a human being, Not the monster they imagined.
Yeah, just robbing an old man and then he died.
She successfully spearheaded the first restorative justice case in New York City homicide.
I bet you're getting the picture on the story there.
Yeah, you know what?
Let's just go to her talking about that, shall we?
Here she is.
This is what Penny is up against in clip 19. So I'm going to give you an example of something that I did with a recent case of mine.
unidentified
And this has never been done in my office.
owen shroyer
Never been done.
unidentified
I had a murder.
A case where the defendant did not intentionally kill the victim.
He went into an ATM on the Upper West Side and tried to rob an individual.
Unfortunately, it was an older individual.
He was 86. And in the course of the robbery, he fell to the ground.
And as a result, he died.
This is, under the law, a felony murder, which is akin to intentional murder.
However, when I first got the case, I took the time to learn about the defendant.
And it was a strong case.
So it wasn't about a whodunit.
I knew immediately who did it.
I could prove it.
I could take it to trial that day and win it.
But it wasn't about that.
It was that the more I learned about the defendant and his life and the circumstances, the kinds of things that Jarrell was talking about, that one should take into account the trauma of that individual, I really felt incredibly sorry for him that he had gotten to that point in his life where he felt like there was no other choice but to commit this robbery.
owen shroyer
He had no other choice but to commit a robbery that resulted in an 86-year-old professor being killed.
I mean, it's insane.
So...
That was an actual criminal committing a crime that she let off.
Here's Penny trying to stop a known deranged harasser on a train where all the witnesses were thankful for him and it's likely she'll try to throw the book at him if she can.
And really she just hates white people.
It would seem.
Oh.
michael cargill
Yeah.
owen shroyer
And isn't that what it's really all about with these progressive attorneys?
They see a white person and they see a black person and they say, well, I'm going to have, quote, restorative justice.
Meaning it's time for a white person to suffer and the black person to get off easy.
That's what it really means.
So, of course, this creates an environment where crime skyrockets and the good guys like Penny go to prison and the bad guys get no prison time.
And then the crime rates skyrocket.
It's restorative justice.
As if Penny is supposed to pay for things that happened hundreds of years ago.
Now, here's Councilwoman A New York City Councilwoman talking about the closing arguments.
Vicki Palandino.
She says, The fact that an angry,
disheveled, spiteful woman like that can vindictively wield the law on behalf of our city is an embarrassment to our entire legal system.
And it shows how nakedly and unapologetically political the Manhattan District Attorney's Office has become.
Shame on us for allowing our once great city to descend to this level.
I'd call it a clown show, but that would imply there's an element of humor in any of this.
There isn't.
I only pray that the jury can see through this charade and find Daniel Penny innocent.
Either way, the damage has been done and the message is clear.
The Manhattan DA will not think twice about destroying the life of anyone who stands up to criminals in self-defense.
We are to be ruled by the lawless.
Alvin Bragg has to go, period.
Folks, I know what this is like.
I've been in this situation.
I've been in the courtroom when you're being misrepresented, you're being lied about, and it doesn't take very long to realize there is no shot at justice.
So again, the only hope for Penny is that the jury sees through it with this crazy progressive liberal woman, probably an anti-white bigot, trying to destroy this man's life.
And you know, What's wild is...
How do you even quantify this?
Probably just a generation ago.
Probably just our mothers and fathers.
Certainly our grandparents, if you're my age, I would say.
Every one of our grandmothers...
Would have been thankful that there was a Daniel Penny on that train to protect the innocent bystanders from a known deranged individual who had a track record of harassment that made people feel uncomfortable, women feel uncomfortable on these trains.
Every one of our grandmothers would be grateful for a Daniel Penny in that situation.
And every one of our grandfathers would have been Daniel Penny in that situation.
They would have stood up for the innocent people.
They would have stood up and taken care of the nuisance.
But now here we are, and that's the bad guy.
Now here we are, and the guy that actually stands up and tries to protect innocent people is the bad guy.
So the question is, what is Daniel Penny supposed to do?
What are you supposed to do?
You're supposed to let...
The nuisance, you're supposed to let the serial harasser, you're supposed to let this deranged lunatic that belongs in a mental asylum, you're supposed to just let him run wild.
Let him harass people, intimidate people, making everybody in the train feel uncomfortable.
That's what you're supposed to let happen.
That's the America they want.
That's the civilization they want.
And if you dare try to do something to help the people around you, You're the bad guy.
You're going to jail.
And that's the lesson.
That's the example they want to set with this case.
Now, if Daniel Penny was maybe a different skin color, I wonder if the result would be the same.
We've had similar situations on the New York subway.
Jordan Williams has charges dropped.
This is from 2019. The Queens man who argued he stabbed a subway rider to death in self-defense will avoid prosecution.
City officials announced Wednesday a grand jury declined to indict Jordan Williams on manslaughter and weapons charges stemming from the June 13th killing on the Brooklyn J train.
The 20-year-old had been arrested for the stabbing of 36-year-old DeVictor Quadrago.
That was involving a knife.
Well, self-defense?
You're defending yourself?
Okay, I mean, that's...
Not Daniel Penny.
Truly insane.
Truly insane.
All right.
Let's move on here.
What is Peter Hotez talking about here?
Is this a threat?
Does he know something?
Do they have something special planned for Trump's second term, like another pandemic?
What is Peter Hotez talking about in clip known vaccine, big pharma, shill, Peter Hotez?
What is he talking about in clip 15?
dr peter hotez
Here's the reason why we need to care about this stuff, Nicole, is that we have some big picture stuff coming down the pike starting on January 21st.
Mr. Bloomberg mentioned H5N1. That I'm really worried about.
It's all over wild birds on the western part of the United States and going up in the north.
It's getting into the poultry.
We're seeing sporadic human cases.
No human-to-human transmission yet, but that could happen.
It's in the cattle.
It's in the milk.
And that's just the beginning.
We have another major coronavirus likely brewing in Asia.
We've had SARS in 2002, SARS-2, COVID-19 in 2019. And we know these viruses are jumping from bats to people thousands of times a year.
But there's still more.
We know that we have a big problem with mosquito-transmitted viruses all along the Gulf Coast, where I am here in Texas, or expecting dengue and possibly Zika virus coming back, or apuche virus, maybe even yellow fever.
And there's more.
Then we have all this sharp rise in vaccine-preventable diseases going up because of, in part, the anti-vaccine activism that's so We have a five-fold rise in pertussis cases, whooping cough over the last year, 15 measles outbreaks this year.
We've got polio that's been in the wastewater in New York State.
All that's going to come crashing down on January 21st on the Trump administration.
We need a really, really good team to be able to handle this.
owen shroyer
So explain to me how he knows the exact date where a viral outbreak or the risk of a pandemic increases.
How does he know on a certain date that somehow these viruses are going to activate?
Did you guys know viruses respond to inaugurations?
So all these viruses he brings up, every virus under the sun he can think of in a 90-second segment, they're all coming back on January 21st to wreak havoc because Trump's getting in office.
Is that scientific?
Doctor?
Now, notice what goes unmentioned when he talks about measles and all these viruses.
Oh, it's breaking out of New York City.
Oh, really?
You mean like the illegal immigrants are bringing it in?
Dengue fever?
You think that originates in America?
No, that's coming from illegal immigrants.
You jaggaloon.
You freak.
Oh, we're not going to mention the illegals bringing in diseases, though.
And then they go back to their old trope.
These are vaccine-preventable diseases.
Okay, then get your vaccine, bud!
Then get your vaccine and you won't get the disease.
And these anti-vax activists, as you call them, that don't get the vaccines, then they'll get the diseases and die, won't they?
Except they never do.
They never do.
It's usually the opposite.
But boy, he knows that these viruses are all going to kick into gear on January 21st, the first day of Trump's second administration.
That's amazing.
That's really amazing how he knows that.
How did he figure that out?
Seems to be a pretty aggressive prediction.
Alright.
What did Thomas Jefferson say?
Well, he said, when the people fear the government, there's tyranny.
And when the government fears the people, there's freedom.
Well, AOC says she lives in fear.
Of course, this is all just grandstanding.
But this is her latest little social media post.
She's living in fear constantly.
All the time, she says.
unidentified
Clip 7. I talk to people all the time.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
And one of the most common questions that people ask me is, where do you get the courage?
Like, where do you get courage to do things?
unidentified
And- And if anything she does is courageous.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
I've always taken aback by that question because- What does she do that faces a threat?
Because it doesn't feel like courage to me.
And by that I mean it's fear.
It's fear.
owen shroyer
Oh, it's so hard for you.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
I'm scared all the time, too.
unidentified
Of what?
And this moment and these moments are not about ignoring your fear.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
It's not about setting it aside.
For me, I can't set aside fear.
I'm scared all the time.
You know, sometimes the actions that I take or the decisions that we're making, they're huge.
They're enormous.
They are life and death for people.
owen shroyer
Life and death.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
And I've had moments where I'm terrified.
But what you do with that fear is that you look at that fear and you turn it into fuel.
Because fear, what does fear do?
owen shroyer
She's so inspiring.
unidentified
Even on a physical level, take a step back.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
Feel your fear.
Really feel it.
Don't push it aside.
Don't try to push it down.
Don't try to ignore it.
Don't do this.
Feel your fear.
owen shroyer
Still not clear what she's talking about.
Seriously, what is it that AOC is afraid of?
She can't have an abortion?
She can.
She's going to be censored?
She never has been.
She's going to be politically persecuted?
No, that's what she does.
She's going to be thrown in prison?
No, that's what they do to their opposition.
What is she afraid of, exactly?
It's all this projection.
They're the ones that want you to live in fear.
And then they cry, oh, she's so afraid.
She's scared, guys.
Must be tough.
Well, Mitt Romney said goodbye today.
He had a farewell address from the Senate floor.
And we said, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Thank you very much.
Mitch McConnell criticizes Democrat judges on retirement.
This is all Schumer's doing.
Remember how Schumer was laughing?
How he ate Mitch McConnell's lunch in those negotiations?
So they're going to ram through all these Biden radical leftist judges appointments.
And Mitch McConnell took the bait behind the scenes.
Schumer was cutting deals and the judges are going to un-retire.
So they thought, oh, well, we're going to be able to replace these other judges that are retiring once Trump gets in and then they un-retired.
So Chuck Schumer making mincemeat out of Mitch McConnell.
What a joke.
Alright, Scott Jennings is a refreshing voice on CNN. It reminds me of when Jeff Lord used to be on CNN. And I mean, it's amazing what happens when one voice of reason, when one individual with an IQ higher than 50 sits on a CNN panel.
It really exposes the whole bunch of libtards.
Here's a classic example in clip 14. I don't want to be bringing back waterboarding.
unidentified
I don't want to be a country that tortures people, especially if we're the kind of country that's going to be using the military against our own citizens.
This kind of thing concerns me.
scott jennings
What do you mean, use against our own citizens?
unidentified
I'm talking about sending...
scott jennings
You said blue states behave.
What do you mean?
What are you talking about?
unidentified
I'm talking about sending the military into blue states to make them behave.
abby phillip
Getting Gavin Newsom under control.
scott jennings
Getting J.P. Pritzker under control.
What are you talking about?
What do you mean, like sitting into the state capitol to commandeer the state government?
unidentified
I mean, I hope not.
abby phillip
He's definitely talked about that.
unidentified
I don't know why you're acting like you've never heard this.
abby phillip
Trump has talked about using the military to suppress, in the Black Lives Matter era, those protests in the street.
He was there himself.
scott jennings
He was there himself.
To set up, effectively, like, coups in state capitals of states that he didn't win?
abby phillip
Scott, I think you're taking it a step or two.
scott jennings
No, she said make blue states behave, and she also said round up immigrants.
That's not true.
It's deport illegal immigrants.
abby phillip
Scott, I don't know why you're acting.
No, okay, well, I'm sorry.
Hold on, hold on.
I mean, look.
I think you're right.
Let's be precise.
Trump has wanted to use the military to do things domestically that actually the military is not allowed to do.
I think that's the point that she's making.
scott jennings
Like what?
abby phillip
Like deport illegal immigrants.
That is actually not a function of the military.
scott jennings
The military can absolutely be used to work with local officials, to provide military resources, but working with other parts of the federal government and local officials.
We already send the National Guard to the border.
unidentified
But you're not against the will of the local officials or the will of the state government.
abby phillip
We have a federalist government here.
unidentified
The military is not supposed to take up arms against American citizens, period.
scott jennings
They're not.
unidentified
You keep saying that.
scott jennings
This is about illegal immigration.
You all keep saying American citizens.
unidentified
It's about illegal immigration.
How do we know whether the people are illegal or not?
We know after they're shot.
scott jennings
We know after they die.
We have 1.6 million people.
unidentified
It's always back to illegal immigration with people who support Donald Trump.
It's always back to illegal immigration, but that's not the only thing that we're talking about here.
We're talking about the American people.
We're talking about taking up arms against them with a military that's supposed to be protected.
owen shroyer
That's what the Biden administration was planning to do.
scott jennings
You cannot say Donald Trump is sending the military to round out- That's what he is saying, Scott.
unidentified
That's not what I'm saying.
scott jennings
Totally false.
unidentified
He said that.
scott jennings
Totally false.
unidentified
That's what he said.
abby phillip
Scott.
scott jennings
We're in the fever swamps, Andy.
I'm sorry.
abby phillip
What is your dispute here?
I'm not even really understanding.
scott jennings
Because they're saying that he's sending the military to shoot and or round up American citizens.
unidentified
We did not say shoot.
That was a Department of Defense memo under the Biden administration.
I did say take up arms because when you send the army in, that's what they're here for.
owen shroyer
I will say it's actually impressive.
It's actually impressive that an entire panel of liberals can get everything wrong.
scott jennings
Everything.
owen shroyer
Not a single thing any one of those panel of liberals said was right.
Nothing.
Nothing.
And they always want to play these games.
That's why it's so refreshing when there's actually a voice of reason and truth with them that can challenge them.
They always want to play these games...
And conflate illegal immigrants, criminal aliens to American citizens as if it's the same thing when it's not.
But you can't get away with that when there's one person in the room that tells the truth.
You can't get away with it.
Joining me in studio now for the remainder of the transmission is Michael Cargill.
And he's one of the greatest gun activists right now, working hard.
He's had victories at the Supreme Court.
He's now going up against the ATF as well, Central Texas GunWorks.
Which, you've had some crazy experiences here locally as well, which we've had you on about.
But, I want to talk about some of the aftermath of your Supreme Court victory, and now you're going up against the ATF. We'll kind of follow that up with some of the Trump administration picks you'd like to see yourself as a role at the ATF. We can get to that too.
Michael Cargo.
So, okay, Supreme Court bump stock case victory.
Now you're going up against the ATF. Let's sum it all up for the audience.
michael cargill
We've done quite a bit.
So we got the Cargill case, the Bumstock case, that actually went all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, where we basically said, hey, you know what?
Agencies within the federal government, you cannot create a right law, which is the Chevron deference.
Shut them down on that, which actually rolls over to the brace ban and whatever triggers, whatever the agency wanted to ban, we actually put a complete stop to this.
So every college student that goes to, is going to attend law school will hear about the Cargill cases.
It's now case law.
Also, we have the Cargill case against the ATF now, which actually will have its day in court on January the 7th.
In that case, we're talking about protecting mom-and-pop gun stores.
Right now, you have the ATF walking into mom-and-pop gun stores, and they're actually shutting them down because the gun stores are not catching small mistakes that the customers are making when they're filling out the form, the firearms transaction record.
So when you walk into the gun store and you fill out the 4473, for example, there's a box on there that says County.
Well, some people mistake that, and they put the country instead of the county in that box.
And just one little mistake like that, it actually causes a problem for the ATF, and they'll actually shut a gun store down.
owen shroyer
They won't just go in and correct a record?
michael cargill
No, they won't correct a mistake.
They'll actually shut them down for that.
They'll say, hey, that's an error.
You actually are transferring a firearm to a prohibited person, is basically what they're saying.
owen shroyer
Blatant overreach.
michael cargill
Oh, big time.
And so we're trying to shield and protect these gun stores because, you know, these gun stores have been around for decades.
You're talking, you know, owned by their great-grandparents, you know, great-great-grandparents, and passed down from one generation to another, and you're destroying their livelihood because, you know, there are 100 data points on a.4473 for mistakes to be made.
100 data points.
So there's so many different ways for mistakes to be made.
So they're walking and say, hey, we caught one mistake on this form here.
Yeah, we're going to go ahead and just shut you down because you're transferring a firearm to a prohibited person.
owen shroyer
That's great.
And people don't really hear about this stuff.
They don't hear about the small mom and pop store.
And it's something that could just be cleared up easily.
Even in the aftermath of the paperwork, you should just make a call and say, hey, we've got this error on the paperwork here.
Do you think you can get in touch with these people?
We can correct this, get the right county on it?
michael cargill
That's right.
And so the importance of this is to make sure that we get this case on the books.
We get a ruling for this case because, you know, what happens in four years, five years, six years, then all of a sudden there's a Democrat in office.
You know, maybe we lose the Senate and lose the House.
The Republicans lose one of those branches of government there.
Then, you know, we need to make sure there's a case law here where we actually protect the gun stores, especially those mom and pops.
owen shroyer
So what's the actual desired result then?
What do you want to be the situation?
The ATF can't shut down over faulty paperwork?
Or, like, what's the actual...
michael cargill
We want them to actually go to what the intent of the law was.
The intent of the law is for the ATF to be that agency to assist the gun store, to help the mom and pops with their business.
They go in, inspect them, catch little mistakes and say, hey, this is where you went wrong.
Let's show you how to correct this, how to catch this later on down the road.
They're supposed to be able to assist them, not just shutting them down and revoking their license.
owen shroyer
And I'm sure there's many ticky-tack ways if bureaucrats had a desire or there was a political party with a desire to do as much as they can to interfere in your Second Amendment rights, which we know is going on, you know, this would be just one of those examples.
I would imagine there's all kinds of different little idiosyncrasies when it comes to gun sales and everything else, like you were dealing with the bump stocks.
There's all kinds of little things that they'll try to do to just kind of thumb your eye and say, oh, sorry, you're done.
michael cargill
Yeah, you have the multiple sales transactions where you walk into a gun store, you buy two handguns in a five-day period.
Then there's a form that the gun store has to fill out and send that into the government, basically the FBI. And so that right there, you're reporting this person.
You're saying, hey, they're buying five handguns in a five-day period.
They're giving them all your information, your first name, your last name, middle initial, whatever, middle name, your address, and the make, model, and serial number of that gun is going to the FBI and to the chief law enforcement officer in the county that you live in.
So, you know, and that's Now they've rolled that over to, they just added this, like, you know, last year.
They rolled this over to now, I'm sorry, this year, to rifles now.
So, if you're, before, if you walked into a gun store and you bought a rifle, then you'd only have to report that if it was just a regular rifle.
An 07 manufacturer.
Now they've said, hey, we don't care if you're an 07, you're a manufacturer, well, you're an 07 licensed or you're a manufacturer, I should say.
All FFLs, all federal funds licensed dealers that are in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, you have to report all long gun sales.
So if you buy two or more long guns, rifles or shotguns in a five-day period, they now have to be reported to the FBI and to the chief law enforcement officer in the county that you live in.
owen shroyer
What's the reasoning on a five-day period?
michael cargill
I have no idea.
owen shroyer
I guess you could say it's a red flag, you're buying a bunch of guns in a short period of time, but it's like, okay, well, I'll just wait for six days.
michael cargill
Right.
But a lot of people don't know this.
owen shroyer
So it's ineffective.
unidentified
Right.
michael cargill
And they don't know.
What you don't know, then that's what catches you.
So a lot of people don't know that they're being reported.
They don't know that when they walk in, they're buying the gun Christmas time.
owen shroyer
So if you buy six long guns in one transaction, you get reported?
michael cargill
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
owen shroyer
Seems unconstitutional.
michael cargill
Oh, yeah.
owen shroyer
A violation of privacy.
michael cargill
It makes no sense.
The agency should be focusing on guns that are going across the border there, focusing on those, not Uncle Bob, Uncle Bill, who's walking to the gun store and buying their son a gun.
They have two sons.
Or a husband and wife buying a pair of guns, but then the husband goes in and actually buys the gun, and one gun's going to be for the wife.
Well, they're being reported, and that's actually crazy.
It's creating a registry because you're putting that information out there, and also the sheriff's department, the local police departments, they're getting that information, and we don't know what they're doing with that.
owen shroyer
Well, and really, I would say...
Where would you put it?
I'd say it's, you know more than me, but it's like probably 70% of the gun sales are all registered.
I mean, we really already have a gun registry.
There's nothing official, but I mean, for all intents and purposes, there is a gun registry.
I mean, if I go and I buy a gun at...
A big store, it's getting put into the system.
michael cargill
So you walk into a gun store, you're filling out that firearms transaction record, the 4473. As long as you're just doing one gun here, you're not doing two in a five-day period, that paperwork is going to stay in the gun store.
And the gun store is a database.
So let's say that gun winds up stolen or using the crime.
Well, then the ATF or the FBI, whoever's investigating, is going to go to the manufacturer and they say, hey, who did you sell this gun to?
They're going to say, hey, I sold this gun to this distributor.
They go to the distributor.
Who did you sell it to?
Hey, because it has a serial number on it.
Who did you sell it to?
Hey, I sold it to this gun store.
They walk into that gun store and say, hey, who did you transfer the firearm to?
They said, hey, we transferred it to this individual here.
Here's the 4473. And that's going to be one of the only ways they'll know outside of the transaction, the multiple sale transaction, what gun you have.
So don't get your gun stolen.
Don't get it used in the crime.
owen shroyer
Where do things rate right now?
Because you see it every once in a while.
Constitutional carry laws getting passed in different states.
It seems hyperbolic that you would even have to have constitutional carry laws.
You'd think everything would be constitutional carry.
It's the law of the land.
michael cargill
Correct.
owen shroyer
But yet here we are with this redundancy.
Even in Texas, we just recently had to get laws passed.
Where does it stand as far as the entire country is concerned?
Constitutional carries...
Because I noticed more states are passing constitutional carry laws, but it's certainly still the minority of states.
michael cargill
That's correct.
So it's taken over.
We're getting to the point where we're over the 25 mark.
Where, you know, the majority of your states are getting that constitutional carry.
But then, here we are, now we're talking about a concealed carry, a universal concealed carry, where you have your license, and then if Congress passes bill, your license will be recognized in all the different states, the 50 states.
So I think that's a good thing also, just like your driver's license.
But I do like the constitutional carry, because I don't want the government, I don't necessarily want to go to the government, And ask for permission, you know, to be able to carry a firearm.
I shouldn't have to do that.
Yes, I want everyone to be trained and know what the laws are in the state that you live in.
Absolutely.
But you shouldn't have to ask for permission.
And so that's why, yeah, I definitely support the constitutional carry.
And I wish more states would actually do this.
But, you know, we're going to have New York.
You're going to have your California.
You're going to have your Washington state, you know, your Maryland.
You know, you're going to have those states like that.
New Hampshire that just, well, New Hampshire's live free or die.
But you have your states out there.
They're just not going to do it.
owen shroyer
Well, and what's crazy, too, is you really need to know if you are somebody that carries.
You really need to know the laws of the state you're going to.
A lot of people don't think about that.
But if you're uninformed on the laws of the state you're in, you could get hit.
Unexpectedly, you get pulled over for something, just driving fast, and you're breaking some law because of a firearm you have on you.
You might have something else coming down the pike you didn't expect.
michael cargill
Oh, absolutely.
Like, you can't carry, you know, in the post office.
You can't carry in the post office parking lot.
You know, that's actually a felony.
So you can, you know, you can't even have it in your vehicle in the parking lot of a post office.
But here we are in Texas, you know, we can carry in our Texas State Capitol.
You know, we can walk to the Capitol.
There's an express line to get in the Capitol, you know, when you have a, you know, well, you know, two different ways to get into the Capitol here in Texas.
And I love that, that we can carry a gun there.
The fact that, you know, I can carry in a bank.
You know, I love that.
I love, you know, miss COVID because of the funny part of that.
It was when I walked up to the door.
owen shroyer
No traffic in Austin.
michael cargill
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael cargill
And then I was actually able to do 120 miles, you know, through downtown Austin.
You know, I love to drive fast.
owen shroyer
In your mind, you weren't actually doing that.
michael cargill
No, not.
owen shroyer
Yes, that's right.
You never break the law.
unidentified
That is correct.
michael cargill
In my mind.
I like the fact that, you know, during COVID, I walked up to the bank there, walked up to Bank of America, and I had my 1911 that I was open carrying, and so I walked up to the door, and there's a sign that says, Face Master Mandatory, and all I had was a bandana.
So I stood in front of that door, my 1911, and I looked at the sign, and I just put on that bandana and walked into the bank.
I said, man, this is where we are today.
You know, I gotta put on a face mask to walk into the bank, and I'm open carrying a handgun.
owen shroyer
Was the teller Unnerved?
Or how did that happen?
michael cargill
Most people didn't even notice.
owen shroyer
Well, that's true.
michael cargill
Yeah, they're not paying attention at all.
But yeah, that was great.
Times like that is actually pretty funny to me.
owen shroyer
Well, and people usually, and it's changed now, but I remember when I first moved to Texas, we had a lot of actual gun restrictions.
A lot more than we have now.
And Texas always kind of had this reputation of, you know, Some of the most gun freedoms.
But really, we've come a long way, I think, in the last eight years as far as the gun rights here.
michael cargill
That's correct.
So we've been able to get a campus carry pass here in Texas, where if you have your license you can carry concealed inside the building of a public college campus.
I think that's wonderful.
You know, I pushed for that, and it took me 10 years to get that pass because some things happened to my grandmother who decided she wanted to go back to college to become a nurse, basically.
They get her college degree.
And she did this.
She actually went back to college and became a nurse, got a nursing degree.
Well, one day while she was traveling at a college, you know, on the way to the college library sitting at a bus stop, guy came along, mugged her and raped her.
And so I decided to, you know, man, we've got to do something, you know, got to refuse to be victims here.
So, you know, I was able to get everyone in my family trained, you know, get them a gun, get them to know what the laws were, make sure they're proficient with the firearm and actually get them a gun.
And so they now they're able to carry in a college campus.
owen shroyer
It's crazy to think that you even have to fight for these rights because it really is basic self-defense.
It just shows you how far we've fallen from the Constitution.
Where do things sit with the ATF leadership right now?
I know you said you'd love to lead the ATF. I don't know if we can get a bug in Trump's ear to look at Michael Cargill for head of the ATF. I don't think he's nominated anybody yet that I've seen.
unidentified
No.
michael cargill
So no one's been nominated just yet.
I have been reached out by people in the administration.
So they're looking at my name to be thrown in the ring there.
So we'll see what happens.
It would be awesome to be the director of the ATF to be involved in that.
Some of the things I think that we should get done is we need to...
I would actually have two different 4473s.
If I couldn't get rid of the form altogether, that would be my thing to get rid of that firearms transaction record.
But if I can't get rid of it, to have a separate one where there's one for people that are non-citizens and then one for citizens.
The one for citizens, you're a U.S. citizen, it should be a half a pager.
That's it.
No questions.
We don't need to ask questions.
You know, is this gun for you?
Of course it's gun for you.
That's why I'm walking and filling up the stupid form.
Walking in, putting your name, your first aid, middle name, your last name, your address, and your driver's license number.
On that driver's license, there's so much information that's attached to your driver's license.
You walk in nowadays, you have to throw a thumbprint down there to update your driver's license.
So there's a lot of information from the driver's license.
So just put the driver's license number down and they have everything they need.
Some of that stuff is redundant information there.
So all you need is a half a pager and then that's it.
And then also, I would change the NFA. If I can't get rid of the NFA, which you're going to have to go through Congress.
That's what a lot of people don't understand.
The NFA is a bill that was written by Congress.
So in order to get rid of that, you're going to have to go back to Congress to do this.
Well, unfortunately, we're only going to get two years to get anything passed in Congress.
Because in two years, we may lose the House or the Senate.
And after that, full stop, nothing's going to get done.
So everything's going to have to get done that first two years.
You're going to have to...
You take the NFA and you say, hey, you know what?
Let's either fix it so we can add machine guns or add suppressors and put a moratorium in there.
I would try to do that within the first 90 days.
Also get rid of all the rules, every single rule that's been put in place.
We'll do a 90-day question, you know, period.
And after that 90-day question period, then you get rid of all those rules that the ATF has actually, you know, imposed.
Because my case, the Cargill case, says, hey, you know, you can't do things like that.
You want to make changes like that.
You're going to have to go through Congress.
So that will stop anyone who comes in behind us and add those things back because they're going to have to go through Congress and get Congress to write a bill to actually add those things back.
owen shroyer
No executive orders.
michael cargill
That is correct.
Well, they can do executive order, but we're going to take them to court on that.
owen shroyer
Like you did, and you had the victory.
michael cargill
Right.
The ATF is not going to be able to do it once we undo it because of the Cargill case.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
So, I mean, what would be...
Because to me, I look at all these...
And I'm thinking, well, I'd just like to gut all these bureaucracies.
michael cargill
Oh, would be nice.
Would be nice.
But if we don't do it the right way, we're going to have to go through Congress and work with Congress because you can walk in as a director, as a secretary of whatever agency.
You walk in as that secretary, you walk in, you know, as that director and you undo something.
Whatever you undo is going to be redone in four or five years when someone else, you know, Steps in and change office.
So you've got to go through Congress.
We've got two years to get something through Congress to get all this stuff undone.
And it's going to be hard.
It's going to be an uphill battle, but we've got to do it that way.
owen shroyer
Yeah, well, we need to find, I think, if you look at the states that have the best gun laws or the least restrictions, and you kind of use that as the model, and you try to go through Congress.
But I guess every state kind of can determine their own fate with that stuff.
Just like with the abortion issue.
Although, it's not the same.
Because there is no right to an abortion.
There is no constitutional right.
There is no Bill of Rights.
It's not mentioned.
The right to self-defense is inherent, given to us by God.
That is constitutional.
That is in the Bill of Rights.
You know, that's what's so whacked out to me, is...
How can you make the case that, let's say a woman, in one of these blue states...
Lives in a city, goes to college, likes to take a run at night, whatever.
She wants to have a gun.
She doesn't want to be a victim.
She doesn't want to be the next Lake and Riley, let's say, or the thousands of cases.
So she wants to carry a gun.
How are you going to make the case that that's illegal and that she has to go through all this process, which sometimes could take weeks?
michael cargill
Right.
owen shroyer
So now she's sitting there vulnerable for weeks, sitting there waiting for the government to catch up For a God-given right that she's supposed to be given just with her birthright.
michael cargill
That's right.
Honestly, I think she should be able to walk to the gun store and get a machine gun.
The way the NFA process is set up is that you should be able to...
The machine guns are registered.
If we can't, like I said, if we cannot get rid of the NFA, the thing is to get rid of the NFA, but if we cannot do that, you should be able to walk to the gun store, Since it's already registered, the machine gun, or the suppressor's already in the registry, I should be able to walk in, fill out a transaction record to show that this item is transferred to me, and then they should be able to do it e-forms, and I should be able to walk out of the gun store that same day with the machine gun, suppressor, or whatever I want.
owen shroyer
And you don't need the government involved in every transaction you make.
michael cargill
No, no.
We're going to notify them.
Yeah, so if they want to be notified in the registry, we'll notify them.
And that's what we're going to do through e-forms.
But, you know, you should be able to walk out that same day with the machine gun, suppressor, shortbread rifle, shortbread shotgun, whatever you want.
owen shroyer
Whatever you want.
michael cargill
Whatever you want.
owen shroyer
Bump stock.
michael cargill
Whatever you want.
owen shroyer
Anything you want.
michael cargill
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
That's America.
michael cargill
That's right.
owen shroyer
I remember there was some Democrat that said, as an argument against guns, said, well, you know, you can't own a tank.
You couldn't own a cannon.
Actually, you could own a cannon.
Actually, you can own a tank.
michael cargill
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
You can buy a tank.
Actually, right now, you can go buy a tank.
michael cargill
Absolutely.
And that's right.
owen shroyer
There's a couple options, actually.
michael cargill
That's right.
We rolled down Congress Avenue right now with a tank.
I love it.
Let's go.
owen shroyer
I mean, so they don't even know the stuff that they're talking about, and it's funny.
All right, I do want to get in.
We're almost out of time in this segment.
I do want to get into the UnitedHealthcare CEO being shot, and you can kind of analyze his techniques as he pulls the firearm.
We got some other stuff, too.
Did you know your taxpayers in Texas, Michael, you're a taxpayer here, UT Austin is using taxpayer money to promote transgenderism, and they got all kinds of weird programs and stuff that they're doing.
I can't even believe this crap.
Why are they stealing our money to promote some deranged sexual...
I don't even know what to call it.
It's just like pretend game that they play.
Costumism.
They're just dressing in costumes.
That's your taxpayer dollars going to that.
michael cargill
That's insane.
That's insane.
And there is only two genders.
That's it.
owen shroyer
Controversial stuff here.
michael cargill
I'm sorry.
There are only two genders.
There's male, there's female, and that's it.
owen shroyer
But there are a lot of different types of guns.
michael cargill
That's absolutely.
owen shroyer
Nowadays, they might say there's more genders than guns.
Look at this.
Feminizing medical care.
So if you're a dude and you want to get feminized, oh my gosh.
Masculizing medical care.
I mean, this is the kind of crap that our tax dollars pay for.
I mean, it's just insane.
This stuff just angers me so much, Michael.
I'm just so sick of our money getting wasted on this crap.
Body contouring, top surgery.
If you want to have top surgery, please do it on your own dime and stop doing it to the kids.
Yeah, we've had a lot of issues with that here in Texas.
There's been some outbreaks at the Capitol over that.
I've been a part of that.
I've been shoved by a few trannies at the Capitol for free and against trans kids.
michael cargill
Yeah, Des Chappelle.
owen shroyer
They're big, too, man.
They got these trans women out there.
They're like 6'4", 6'5", and they always go to the front of the pack, too.
They want you to know.
Like, yeah, I played linebacker.
I played linebacker in high school.
I'm here to beat you up, Schroyer.
michael cargill
That's ma'am.
owen shroyer
I don't get my gender wrong.
michael cargill
That's ma'am.
owen shroyer
I'm going to sue you.
All right, Michael Cargill in studio, Central Texas Gunworks.
Anybody can shop at your site, by the way, right?
michael cargill
That's right.
Anyone can go to the website.
You can buy whatever you want at the website, and we'll take good care of you.
owen shroyer
Whatever you want.
All right, we'll be right back with this video of this assassination in New York City.
Alright, we're going to talk more about gun rights, gun laws, the ATF with Michael Cargill in studio.
I want to show him this video, though, before we get back into that, because he's also an expert marksman.
He'll train you, too.
He'll have you shooting straight over there at the Central Texas Gunworks.
But this was I had a former FBI agent on.
He called it basically an amateur professional.
Like the guy looked like he was probably a hired gun, but didn't probably get professional serious training.
Here's some of the headlines here.
And you guys can start rolling that video so Michael can see it.
United Healthcare CEO fatally shot outside New York City Hotel in premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
Now, there's the reason why conspiracy is flying here.
Here's some of the other stories about UnitedHealth.
UnitedHealth uses faulty AI to deny elderly patients medically necessary coverage lawsuit claims.
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was facing a DOJ investigation and lawsuit when he was shot dead.
Justice Department sues to block UnitedHealth Group's acquisition of home health and hospice provider As part of this ongoing litigation, billions of dollars at stake, by the way, in these deals and transactions.
So this is why conspiracy is flying.
But there you have it on the screen.
There is the UnitedHealthcare CEO walking down the street.
Guy goes right out there, shoots him.
Apparently the gun jams or he has some problem, as you can see there.
What do you think when you see this technique?
Does this look like a highly trained professional or maybe some guy that was more amateur in rank?
michael cargill
Not trained at all because the first thing you want to do is you want to make sure you have a good, clean, working firearm.
So obviously that gun's not clean, it's not oiled, and also it looks like he's using a suppressor.
I'm definitely seeing a suppressor on the barrel there.
Hand grip's fine, but yeah, definitely.
And he's dropped a lot of rounds.
I'm seeing a lot of shells, rounds that are being extracted out of the firearm there.
That's going to track him down.
It looks like, did he jump on a scooter or something?
owen shroyer
I think he just took off.
It was kind of an awkward exit.
It was like he didn't really have an exit strategy either.
Apparently, he did get on a bike at some point.
I'm not sure if that is in this footage.
But yeah, it seems like when he exits the frame here, to the left, he then kind of reappears, and it's like he's running down the street.
But apparently he was waiting out for hours to do this.
So, I mean, the circumstantial evidence points to, obviously, premeditated, maybe even hired gun.
But based off of your analysis here, not very well-trained, not high-level hitman type stuff.
michael cargill
No, not at all.
Why did you walk up behind the guy?
Why not walk up in front of him?
And then, like I said, they're going to know.
This is really going to be easy for them to track down this person.
Hopefully they catch him alive.
Number one, one way, I'm pretty sure you have a cell phone.
They're going to be able to track him down through that cell phone, whatever cell phones were in that area at that time.
Also, if he did get away on a bike or scooter, if it's electric, how did he scan it?
What did he use?
Did he use an app, credit card, whatever, to get away?
And also, the gun leaves a thumbprint.
It leaves a signature.
So he used a suppressor.
He dropped the shell casings.
They're going to get prints off of the shell casings and also prints off of the rounds of the extract that he was ejected out of there as well.
So this guy's going to get caught pretty quick.
And with New York, you know, the way they have their cameras and security.
owen shroyer
Cameras everywhere.
michael cargill
Cameras everywhere.
So, yeah, there's no doubt in my mind this guy's going to get caught.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
And, you know, a lot of people got defrauded with some stock market issues in this case.
All the other stuff that was going on with United and the health care stuff.
So there's a lot of people that might have been, you know, had the desire to shoot this guy, unfortunately.
But based off of what I've heard from you, the FBI, former FBI agent earlier, and then some of the stories, I would say, yeah, this person is likely to get caught and probably not the smartest hitman.
michael cargill
No, they didn't check his equipment.
Definitely a dirty gun.
It wasn't clean, it wasn't old, and that's why it's malfunctioning.
His grip looked fine, but definitely going to be...
Yeah, he's not taking care of the gun, and that's why it malfunctioned on him.
owen shroyer
Plus, from that range, a professional would probably only need one shot.
michael cargill
He was probably lip-wristing.
He wasn't holding the gun tight enough.
That's also a problem.
Could be a cause as well.
owen shroyer
Yeah, so...
michael cargill
He was cupping at first.
owen shroyer
Crazy story.
Crazy story with a lot of conspiracy surrounding it.
michael cargill
Hopefully they catch him alive.
They catch him dead, then yeah, this is going to go on for a while.
owen shroyer
Well, he might be dead.
Someone might go after him now if this was something else, something a little higher up.
Alright, you said you got more to say dealing with the ATF. You could probably talk for hours about the ATF. And we haven't even begun talking about alcohol or tobacco.
michael cargill
Whoever gets the director of ATF should walk in day one and have a plan to immediately get rid of the rules and put a 90-day period in place, question time in place there, and then after the end of that 90 days, all the rules are repealed.
Get rid of all of them.
Also, jump in immediately and start working with Congress.
You got to work with the different committees that are going, you know, the committee that's actually going to handle, you know, the creating a bill or handling a bill, you know, that the ATFs come involved in.
You got to work with the senators who are key in sponsoring this bill, getting a bill passed on the Senate side, on the House side.
To where you have something where we can eliminate some things that the ATF's doing and focus on, you know, if you're going to keep the agency there, then it's got to focus on, you know, catching, you know, getting rid of guns that are crossing the border.
What about these, where these guys get these Glock switches from?
You mean to tell me that we can't figure out what website they're buying the Glock switches?
You know, we can't figure out, you know, How these gangbangers are getting these small little devices from overseas.
There should be a way to figure that stuff out really easy and shut that whole process down there.
Because their Glock switches are crazy.
They're actually...
Using them to, you know, we had a case here in Texas where, what was it, the 4th of July, you know, actually killed a pregnant lady, you know, with a glock switch.
So, you know, there's definitely a lot of things that we can work on with that.
And you got to work with Congress, though.
That's the key.
We got to work with Congress, the House and the Senate, and make sure whatever we do does not get undone and in four or five years end up in the same situation.
owen shroyer
So what is your stance then on switches?
Explain people what this phenomenon is, because they hear it in pop culture, but they might not know exactly what it is.
michael cargill
Right, so a Glock switch is something that you attach to a Glock.
It goes on the rear of the Glock there, and it actually turns it into a machine gun.
You know, it's actually a felony to even possess one of them.
And you have a lot of your gangbangers that are using Glock switches, and they're committing crimes with them, and people are getting killed.
Police officers have been killed.
Law enforcement officers have been killed with it.
So they're getting them online.
They're coming in from out of the country.
They also can be made, can be 3D printed.
That you can't stop, you know, whatsoever.
But you can stop the ones that are coming in from overseas.
You can, you know, find out where they're purchasing them, what site, what website they're going on they're purchasing.
These are teenagers that are figuring out how to buy these devices online.
You mean tell me we can't figure that out?
As a law enforcement agency, instead of attacking mom-and-pop gun stores, instead of attacking the wrong people, we need to focus on the real criminals in this country.
And that's where we need to get the ATF back into that direction.
owen shroyer
How does it actually work that it makes it fire like a machine gun?
What is the actual mechanics on it?
michael cargill
So once you attach it, you pull that trigger, you hold that trigger, every round goes out of that magazine.
owen shroyer
So it just holds it It just like holds it open so that it just keeps feeding.
michael cargill
Every round goes through.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
owen shroyer
Well, and it's very popular, like you said, in gang culture.
unidentified
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
That's where it's mostly utilized.
michael cargill
Absolutely.
And they're illegal.
Do you think they should be illegal?
No.
No, I don't.
But they are.
If we can't undo it, then you gotta fix it to make sure that the wrong people don't get their hands on them.
owen shroyer
And I guess, I mean, The purpose of it would be convenience, I guess, because now you don't have to buy a long gun that's semi-automatic.
michael cargill
To me, shooting an automatic is actually a waste of ammunition.
It's fun to do.
Man, I love to go out to the range and I love to do it a couple times or whatever, but when it boils down to it, I'm wasting a lot of ammo there.
owen shroyer
Accuracy goes down?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael cargill
Do I want to do this all the time?
Absolutely not.
But it's fun, you know, and I love the fun of shooting an automatic or a three round burst or whatever.
I love that.
I love, you know, putting a bump stock on a rifle and actually shooting, you know, doing that.
But do I want to do it all the time?
No, absolutely not.
I'm not going to take that, you know, and add a bump stock or add a Glock switch and go, you know, go hunting.
Absolutely not.
owen shroyer
So this is an issue I have with a lot of different policy debates, and that's that we don't have an actual debate on the issue.
You look at abortion, and They want to say, oh, it's X, it's Y, it's Z. No, let's talk about the actual policy.
Let's talk about the actual issue.
Quit claiming it's a fundamental right.
It's not.
Stop acting like women aren't using it as the last form of birth control.
They are.
Let's have an honest debate.
Come to me with an honest debate.
Where do you actually stand?
Is it abortion forever?
Is it after a heartbeat?
So I kind of present it like this because we were talking in the break like, How do we have a rational discussion with anti-gun liberals so that we can protect our gun rights but also have a real discussion about how do we have laws on the books or policies on the books where some of it's common sense or even the biggest gun activists will say, okay, That's common sense.
I'm okay with that.
We still have our rights.
One of the things we were talking about in the break, like should felons have a gun?
Red flag laws, mentally ill.
You know, I always tend to lean towards the side of less government, more freedom.
I believe felons should have a gun.
I believe that their rights still exist.
Now, in different court proceedings and probation and, you know, getting out of jail and stuff, you might have to sacrifice your rights.
You have to sign a document to sacrifice your rights.
michael cargill
Correct.
owen shroyer
But everybody should have the right to self-defense.
If somebody comes at you with a gun and you're not allowed to have one because the government says, well, you're a sitting duck, you're dead, you've had your God-given right denied.
How do we have a rational conversation about gun rights so that liberals don't just sit here and say, you know, if it saves one life, we'll do it.
There's no logic there.
michael cargill
Yeah.
So here's how I approach them.
You know, I said, okay, you know, universal background checks, that's the code word they're using.
You know, we need to pass universal background checks.
I said, okay, so if you want to pass universal background checks, you're telling me that, you know, all transactions will have to go to a gun store and that means that everyone have to get a background.
So if you're a convicted felon, you convicted of domestic violence, you're not going to be able to get access to a firearm if all transactions have to be, a background check would have to be done.
And so I'll go back to them and I said, okay, How many people in your family are convicted felons?
They say, oh yeah, well I have an uncle, I have a brother, a cousin, whatever that's a convicted felon.
I said, okay, well do you know that if they pass universal background checks, then that means that your family member, or you, whoever, who's been convicted of a felony, they've paid their debt to society.
They've gone to prison, they've paid restitution, whatever, they've paid debt to society.
You're telling me they're never going to be able to be forgiven for that crime.
Once you've done that, you paid your dues, you've gone to prison, you paid your debt, then you should be able to get all of your rights back.
If you cannot get all of your rights back, then you shouldn't be in general population.
You shouldn't be with everyone.
But absolutely, once we release people, you're done, you paid your debt, you should be able to get every single one of your rights back, including your firearms.
It makes no sense, and that's not the way our forefathers actually wrote the Constitution in this country.
I don't know.
owen shroyer
A mass shooting, a school shooting, whatever, and then they just sit back on their hind legs in an emotional response and they just say, okay, that's it.
We have to get rid of guns.
That's it.
We're done.
Well, okay, again, what about the lady?
What about the single mom that lives in a Democrat city that has a high rate of gun crime?
You know, what happens?
Oh, she can't get a gun.
What happens when a criminal comes up to her car with a gun?
What is she going to do?
What happens when a criminal knocks on her door with a gun?
What is she going to do?
And so it's like, they never look at all the different potentials.
They always want to react to one thing and say, that's it, we have to take the guns.
And they're too stupid to understand the larger political ramifications, obviously, dealing with authoritarians and corrupt government.
But to me, that's what I look at.
It's like, no, think about, there's all kinds of different circumstances, and we're talking about self-defense.
My approach to it is always, let's try to bring it back to self-defense.
You have a right to self-defense.
If somebody comes at you with a gun, your fist is going to fail.
Your knife is going to fail.
You're outmatched.
You're done.
If you're not allowed to have a gun and a criminal comes at you with a gun, you really have been denied a right to self-defense.
If there's laws in the books preventing you from having a firearm, your right to self-defense has been denied.
michael cargill
That's right.
The only thing you're going to do is by taking the guns away, you're going to take them away from the law-abiding person, that person who's the good person, that mom, that single mother.
You're going to take them from that person there and you're going to give them to the criminals because the criminals are going to get their hands on guns regardless.
You're never going to confiscate guns in this country.
That's never going to happen.
There's no way that in the United States of America we were founded on firearms.
That's how we exist today because, you know what, we said, you know what, we're going to arm ourselves and we're going to take this and take that and do that.
And that's why we are here even still today.
That's why this is the best country, you know, on this planet and people are killing themselves to jump in a boat to shove off to get here because they know the United States is the best country.
owen shroyer
Well, and...
Again, the larger political ramifications when you disarm a population.
And they don't understand the history.
All the different authoritarian regimes that have disarmed populations always end up killing said populations.
And you know what else is funny too about liberals?
And we saw this phenomenon again after Trump won the election.
They always want to leave the country, all right?
Sometimes it's after a big gun violence incident and they want to leave the country and go to a country that has stricter gun laws or there's a result of an election and they don't like and they're going to leave the country.
And you know what I noticed, Michael?
They always go to white countries.
They always go to European countries that are white.
michael cargill
I don't understand it.
Let's go to Africa.
owen shroyer
They never go to Africa.
They never go to the Middle East.
They never go to South America.
They always go to Europe.
What's up with that?
michael cargill
You're going to need a firearm.
You go to Africa, you're going to have this tiger or whatever is there.
You're going to need it for that, let me tell you.
owen shroyer
I don't know.
I don't understand it.
They seem to have a problem until it's Europe, and then they are okay with the white culture.
They're okay with the white civilization.
michael cargill
Hey, don't let the doorknob hit you with a good lord split you.
See you later.
owen shroyer
Some of them actually left.
Not enough of them.
michael cargill
Yeah, good.
See ya.
owen shroyer
Might be for different reasons.
They might be afraid of something incoming that they don't like.
michael cargill
I think the next four years are going to be great.
I think that the incoming administration, the Trump administration is going to do great things.
I'm just hoping that we don't get bogged down by...
If a Supreme Court justice retires, I hope we don't get bogged down by that the next year or two.
I hope we don't get bogged down by getting the appointees appointed into different positions.
Because if we do...
owen shroyer
Oh, I think that's going to be a...
michael cargill
Then we're not going to be able to get anything done.
Because we're honestly...
The tea leaves, you got to look at two years.
You got two years to get it done.
Because that's the way it goes.
It flits, flops back and forth when it comes to the House and the Senate.
We're going to lose one of them in two years.
So we got to get this done in two years.
owen shroyer
Well, and I'm afraid right now that even the Senate is not really Republican.
You've got what we're calling rats.
It's the Republicans against Trump.
It's Thune, it's McConnell, it's Murkowski, it's Collins.
They're already stalling Trump's agenda.
They're already trying to derail some of his appointments.
Yeah, I'm afraid they're going to use the confirmation process as a major derailment.
I'm afraid that, I mean, who knows?
They could convince a couple Republicans they might try to impeach Trump again.
But I think you're right.
I think you have to look at this from a two-year window.
And more importantly, for Trump, you need to find things that you can do at the executive level with the power of the pen, as Obama said, to just get things done.
I mean, certain things are just going to have to be done.
I have the most hope.
I have to look at this from a realistic situation.
We'll be lucky if we get half of what we want out of this administration.
We'll be lucky if we get half.
Blame whoever you want.
The reality is we'll be lucky if we get half.
So I think, okay, well, what do the priorities need to be?
I have the most hope, and it's going to need cooperation from Congress, but I have the most hope in DOES, the Department of Government Efficiency.
If we can just get this government out of our lives, off of our backs...
Our lives will improve.
I don't even think people understand.
Get the government out of our daily transactions.
Get the government out of our daily communications, transportations, everything in between.
Out of our pocketbooks.
If we can just get rid of that, that's my greatest hope.
What about you?
michael cargill
I agree 100%.
You were talking about abortion and all that stuff.
I'm going to come back to that in a second.
But you have...
All this money that they're spending and wasting, and no one's checking them on that.
We need to get in here and audit all these different departments and find out what's going on, where's stuff being spent, and actually pull those funds back and really get rid of some people.
You know, there's so many people different...
owen shroyer
Most people, I think.
Not some, most.
michael cargill
They've created so many different departments of sub-departments of sub-agencies and stuff like that.
All this stuff really needs to go.
We need to go in there and gut half of that stuff, if not most of it.
The government's actually gotten too large, too big, where they don't even communicate with each other at all.
It's going to be hard.
Like you said, it's a hard fight.
It's an uphill battle.
It's got to be done within the next...
Man, it's got to be done within the next two years.
I can't say that enough.
I can't say that enough.
We've got to get moving and get this done.
Hopefully he can get the appointees in a different cabinet, maybe get that done before we get to inauguration.
That would be great if we can get that done.
And then that way those people can step in, you know, day one and boom, start getting things done.
Because if we don't, you know, it's going to be hard.
It's going to be very difficult.
Very difficult.
He's going to have to do recess appointments.
You're not going to be able to do a recess appointment until the summer.
owen shroyer
Well, they're trying to block those already.
michael cargill
Yeah, then that happens.
These are your Republican senators if you're talking about they're going to block them.
owen shroyer
They're the rat squad.
michael cargill
Yeah, so they're not on your team.
We've got to hold them accountable.
That means that we're going to have to go after them.
Go after that Republican senator, whether it's Senator John Cornyn from Texas or whoever.
And say, hey, you're not doing what you're supposed to do because the people have voted.
In November, the people said, this is what we want.
It was a majority.
It was not that blue wave.
It was a red wave that took over and said, hey, this is what we want done.
It's got to get done.
And if they don't do that, then we need to hold them accountable and put their feet to the fire.
And we're talking Republicans, not your Democrats.
owen shroyer
Well, and that's going to be the major obstacle.
The Democrats really shouldn't have much political power at all at the executive level, at the congressional level.
I mean, really, they've been defeated, even though it's a small majority in the House.
If Johnson can unify the Republicans and get them to vote consistently with the agenda, then there should be no hiccups.
If the Republicans in the Senate, same story, there should be no hiccups.
I mean, it should be smooth sailing, but it won't be.
Half the Republicans are probably Democrats or blackmailed anyway.
michael cargill
And there's no reason why we should not come out immediately with a balanced budget.
We should not immediately try to get our spending cut in half.
owen shroyer
The border secured.
michael cargill
It should be done day one.
Piece of cake, simple.
It's not rocket science.
We need to get down there, pull the military down to the border, and let's start securing this border.
Just by them talking about Trump coming into office, people are starting to come on board.
Your Mexican president is starting to come on board and say, okay, we're going to comply with the tariff.
Oh, yeah.
And he's not playing.
All he has to do is, and he will do it.
And that's what we need.
We need someone that's going to say they're going to do something and actually do it and get it done.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Well, we've got just two minutes left.
I don't know if you wanted to finish up on the abortion issue.
michael cargill
You know what?
You're talking about the abortion.
You're talking about, you know, when does life begin?
You know, here's how I have that argument.
You know, someone says, a lady says, hey, you know, I want to have a right to an abortion.
Okay, fine.
You'll have your right to abortion if I can have the right to opt out of child support.
owen shroyer
That's a good point.
michael cargill
And we're done.
owen shroyer
But you don't.
But you don't have that option.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
That's a real debate we can have on the issue, but it's this liberalism that just says, oh no, I have the moral high ground, I defeat you.
No, you don't.
You don't have the moral high ground.
If you want to have a debate, let's have a debate.
You don't have a right to abortion.
That is a life in the womb.
michael cargill
It's murder.
owen shroyer
And that's what I'm saying.
michael cargill
It's plain and simple.
owen shroyer
It's like, that's what I'm saying.
I'll have it.
We can have a debate.
I've got my ideas.
I've got my policies.
You've got yours.
You want to talk about rape?
You want to talk about incest?
You want to talk all...
Let's have a real debate.
They don't want to have debate.
They just want blanket abortion whenever, however.
That's all they want.
michael cargill
It's murder, but if you're going to do it, that's your choice to carry it, whatever, go for it.
I want to opt out of child support.
owen shroyer
How do they respond when you say that?
michael cargill
Oh, man.
owen shroyer
They hate that one.
michael cargill
They pause.
They don't know what to say.
owen shroyer
Well, I thought it was the age of feminism, right?
I mean, we're supposed to be treated equally.
michael cargill
Yeah, they don't know what to say.
Just like when it comes to felons being able to have access to firearms, they don't know what to say when you break it down in the way that I actually broke it down.
So same thing.
Don't know what to say.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that one really shocks them.
So, okay, men can have their financial abortion of the child.
michael cargill
That's right.
Same thing.
owen shroyer
Oh, no!
michael cargill
Why not?
owen shroyer
Oh, you can't do that.
You're a misogynist pig.
michael cargill
No, absolutely not.
You have your right to choose.
I have my right to choose where I want to spend my money.
owen shroyer
Michael Cargill, Central Texas Gunworks.
Maybe the next head of the ATF. We can hope.
We can pray.
That'd be a fun time.
That does it for today.
We'll take a 21-hour break, and we will see you tomorrow.
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alex jones
The Justice Department came into my bankruptcy and tried to shut us down twice since May.
The latest case was last week.
The judge shut them down.
They were thrown out of the building.
Crimes were committed.
It's very clear.
They're in a lot of trouble.
I filed counter lawsuits.
You name it.
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The Onion didn't get InfoWars, and they don't own Alex Jones, and they don't own the Alex Jones Network.
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You are keeping me on the air one way or another, and we need the funds.
Over the weekend, folks, we saw our funds cut in half, and people told us, well, we don't want to give it to The Onion.
The Onion does not own me.
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I'm going to say it again.
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It's not owned by The Easter Bunny.
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So I'm just asking you to keep me in the fight.
alex jones
And we got great t-shirts and incredible blow-you-away supplements and everything, and our great sponsor, yellowshownstore.com.
There's a VIP section on there that I noticed was getting really a lot of traction, because I hadn't really, you know, because other folks on this, other folks that are great run this, the folks at Bigly, great patriot backers, total patriots, J-sexers, you name it.
I didn't realize how good the VIP thing was.
So, when I saw this the other day, I said, I better talk about this.
So, if you're a member of the Alex Jones VIP Club at alishonestore.com forward slash VIP, or there's just a big link at the top of the page, this is a critical time in our nation.
We don't know what the future holds for the operation.
The following information I'm about to relay to you is imperative so we can stay in touch.
You can get great products and keep me on the air one way or the other along with the crew.
Monthly member credits.
Every month as a VIP member you get $40 of free store credit.
Did you hear what I just said?
That's right.
It's like money in your pocket with the best products on the planet.
So you pay 30 bucks to be a VIP, and then you get 40 bucks free.
That's $10 you make.
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This is an unbeatable pricing you'll never find anywhere else.
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The winner of the sweepstakes will be announced the 30th this month.
You want to win?
I know you do.
Because the VIP will get double entries in every single giveaway.
No effort, just double your chances just like that.
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This is where it gets big, folks.
VIP members get entered into their own exclusive giveaways every month.
Nobody else is allowed in these.
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You're in the know.
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So, thealexjonesstore.com forward slash VIP. Or just at the top of thealexjonesstore.com, you see the VIP button.
We're fighting the new world order.
I don't have billionaire backers.
I am not controlled by anybody, but my own soul, my own brain.
I'm trying to do the best job I can.
Yellowshowstore.com.
It's up to you whether you want to back The number one broadcaster that the enemy hates the most.
I mean, they literally hate my guts because they know I'm for real, and I can't be bought, and I can't be intimidated, and I'm wild, and I scare them.
And I just don't know why I'm such a lovable, friendly person, but Satanists and pedophiles do not like me.
And that's good, because I don't like them either.
And look, we've already done irrevocable harm to them.
We've already...
Just devastated them.
I mean, the world government, the dual orders, everywhere is being talked about.
The whole world's turning against them.
They're super dangerous as they're throwing the kitchen sink at us to try to keep control.
And I just don't think at 50 years old, after 30 years, when I understand things better than I've ever understood, that I should let these Criminals, these globalists, run me to ground.
So, again, I don't give up.
Vince Lombardi, winners never quit and quitters never win.
I mean, I have moral fortitude and will and commitment.
I just instinctively can't stand these people.
I know they're super dangerous villains.
I know they want to break all of our wills and make us super poor to dictate total control over the social credit score and that it's a super high-tech system of slavery.
And you look at the globalists, they're the most slithering, disgusting snakes and scum And are we going to sell out our species like this?
I mean, it's just...
This is a joke.
This is ridiculous.
We're changing the world.
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