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Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light, what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
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last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight, o'er the ramparts we
watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that
our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that
tom pappert
I am Tom Papert, Editor-in-Chief of NationalFile.com, and I'll be filling in for Owen for today's broadcast.
We have a jam-packed show for you today.
We're going to have Jules Gomez of churchmilitant.com, who is talking about the wonderful vaccine-like
substance that they're coming up with, which Catholics are being told to take, even though
it has aborted baby fetus in it.
I guess the Pope is okay with that, not okay with gay marriage, but okay with giving money
to Elton John, and okay with telling his congregants, the great Catholic church, to take a shot
full of fetal infant cells.
Then we'll have Stu Peters, radio show host, host of Patrionically Correct, one of the
fastest growing radio shows in the country.
We'll have on Gavin Wax, the president of the New York Young Republicans.
And then we'll have on an expert on big tech and alt tech to talk about some of the really
insane things happening.
It's all a propaganda war against the likes of Parler and Spreely and Gab, where you see every single day, it seems, we're getting another story about a big hack, a data breach.
Oh, they said this, they did that, they didn't do this right.
Meanwhile, nobody pays attention to the fact, for instance, that Facebook is the world's leading provider and disseminator of child pornography.
So we'll talk about the media hit pieces We're good to go.
And yet utter and complete silence from big tech when they fail to ensure the safety of their own people, or in some cases children.
Twitter is being sued, of course, by a minor who says that child porn was disseminated all across the Twitter platform of him.
And when he reported it, Twitter said nothing.
There's also, as everybody knows, an ongoing crisis at the border.
It never really went away, even under President Trump.
Remember the president, the former president, had to fight Tooth and nail to get just a little bit of funding, and Congress was never going to give him what he needed, not even the first two years.
This is what's so important to remember.
Not even the first two years when people like Kevin McCarthy were working under the one and only Paul Ryan, who now works, of course, at Fox News, and working to prevent President Trump from getting his big, beautiful wall.
Well, now, of course, Biden has assumed the Oval Office through one means or another.
He, of course, made it sound like every illegal immigrant in the country was going to get amnesty and free money and will give you a place to stay.
Well, they do have a place to stay.
Remember, the kids in cages lie is now being exposed.
The kids in cages, of course, Trump was supposedly putting these separated minors into cages.
No, they were actually quite nice.
It looked like a summer camp.
But now, now they are in cages.
They're in jail-like conditions.
They're able to shower once a week.
700 times the number of legally allowed in migrant children.
Absolute insanity. The chickens are coming home to roost.
And I just want to make sure that the Republicans who failed to secure the border over the last four years do not take credit for ending this crisis.
We'll be right back. You are watching The War Room.
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I'm Tom Papert. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
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It's my life in a box, they're trying to beat.
Can you draw in my arms, is this all I'll be?
You want five, ask to see me lay face down.
You'll pay for the noise in your head.
Welcome to the War Room.
I'm Tom Pappert filling in for all destroyers today.
tom pappert
We have a jam-packed show.
Before we get into our fantastic guests we've got lined up, let's talk about what is going on on the border.
Not the refugee, not the immigration crisis, not all the illegal immigrants, the human traffickers trying to get in.
No, I am, of course, talking about Climate change.
There is a climate change at the border.
I don't know what it's changing to.
I don't know what it's changing from.
But I do know the Nancy Pelosi, the queen of reality, the goddess of the Capitol, the woman who is necessitating tens of thousands of National Guard soldiers to be protected with razor wire.
I like to imagine that they're protecting her palatial wine coolers, wine cellar that is undoubtedly somewhere within the U.S. Capitol, which is where she seems to live.
But Nancy Pelosi says that climate change is causing the immigration crisis.
It's strange. The climate must have just really started to change as soon as Biden got into office or right after January 6th when all this began.
Very, very interesting. Let's go to clip number eight and see Nancy Pelosi blame climate change for everything.
nancy pelosi
More children, about six, seven hundred more children, unaccompanied children coming over the border.
This is a humanitarian challenge to all of us.
What the administration has inherited is a broken system at the border, and they are working to correct that in the children's interest.
I'm so pleased that the president, as a temporary measure, has sent FEMA to the border in order to help We're good to facilitate the children going from one 72-hour issue into where they are cared for as they are transferred into family homes or homes that are safe for them to be.
A transition for what was wrong before towards right.
Of course, we have to also look to Central America and Mexico and the rest.
The corruption, the violence, all of that so bad.
My most recent trip to the Northern Triangle, that would be Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador.
You saw the impact of the climate change, mind you.
These people were leaving because of the drought.
They couldn't farm and they were seeking other ways to survive.
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tom pappert
Nancy Pelosi says climate change is the cause for the crisis at the border.
It couldn't be that Biden was essentially promising amnesty as recently as three months ago.
No, that couldn't be it. It couldn't be that Biden was promising a, what was it, 100-day deportation moratorium where criminals were just going to be allowed to run rampant in the streets for 100 days while they go disappear, go steal a social security number, get a bank account, send all their money back to Guatemala?
No, it couldn't be any of those things.
No, it's climate change.
Climate change is what is causing this spike.
When, of course, it's just fantastic how she must believe that the climate just suddenly changed again in January of this year.
All these farmers down there in Central America, all these doctors, lawyers, and engineers, they saw the writing on the wall on January 5th.
They knew that the climate had irreparably changed and their homeland was now a desert.
So they had to come to America illegally because Biden said they could.
Now the lies from these people is just becoming incredibly obvious, especially Nancy Pelosi.
We're all kind of used to Joe Biden at this point.
He mumbles, he stumbles, he stammers, he starts, he stops.
You never know what he's saying.
I don't think he knows what he's saying.
He's trying to read the teleprompter, but the eyesight just isn't all there.
Well, Nancy Pelosi now...
Seems to be suffering from the same ailments.
It's almost as though having a bunch of 80-year-old people running our government, running our country, may not be the best choice.
I mean, I don't know.
That could be too much.
But I want to show you another clip because it's very frustrating how some of the worst Republicans in the country are going to try to use this to make you like them again.
I mean, it's really something else.
greg abbot
Let's go to clip number four. Remember this, as you were kind of pointing out, it's the Biden open border policies that are inviting even more illegal immigration and actually have created this humanitarian crisis.
As you know, I went down to the border this past week and I met with Border Patrol officers.
And here's what they told me.
The Border Patrol officers themselves told me that they informed the Biden administration that because of the policy changes, it was going to lead to this massive surge that we are just now beginning to see, knowing that it's going to be getting far worse in the coming months.
They also said that the reason for the change, the reason for the increase in the influx, is because of the policy change by the Biden administration.
More importantly, though, Maria, is this challenge.
And that is, the Border Patrol officers told me that the Biden administration policies, they are enriching and they are empowering the drug cartels in Mexico who make money off of the people that they assist in smuggling them into the state of Texas.
The cartels make money off of these migrants that you and your viewers see on TV. Now, the frustrating part there is he is completely right.
tom pappert
He's right that Joe Biden is essentially spearheading this invasion, this colonization of the United States.
And he's right that it is creating an environment where human traffickers, even child traffickers, can exploit these open border policies.
But what Abbott is not telling you is that part of the reason why he had to move really fast to get some National
Guard down by the border is because he's been systemically weakening the border over the last year.
When Austin and when Dallas and when other big cities started stripping their police force after George Floyd
apparently died of a fentanyl overdose last year, well, Abbott started sending his state resources, his state law
enforcement to these cities.
So the border has been left unprotected by Abbott because local politicians in Texas wanted to defund the police
without dealing with the consequences of defunding the police.
They just wanted Abbott to come in to the rescue.
Abbott, of course, also recently described Gab as an anti-Semitic platform.
Well, who is one of the biggest people on Gab?
Alex Jones, Infowars, Owen Schreier, all very big on Gab.
So I guess he's de facto calling his fellow Texans anti-Semitic and saying they have no place in Texas.
No, this guy is a total con.
He is a total loser.
We're also seeing this today with Kevin McCarthy going to the border, several of Mitch McConnell's goons going to the border like Roger Marshall here in Kansas leaving Kansas to go to the Mexico border for some reason so he can take videos on his iPhone and post them on social media and look like he's standing up to Joe Biden.
No, the fact is, these people, they love this.
They love that our country is being invaded.
The Republicans adore this fact just as much as the Democrats, because it allows them to go on television.
It allows them to go on Fox News and give these long-flowing interviews about how horrible Biden is.
How dare Biden do this to America and let this invasion happen?
The fact is, none of these people worked with President Trump to actually build the border wall, which It was almost complete before Biden scammed his way into office.
None of them during the glorious could have been first two years of the Trump administration when we held all three branches of government.
None of them moved Paul Ryan's opinion.
None of them convinced Mitch McConnell it would be a good idea to go ahead and authorize some money to build the damn wall.
Paul Ryan Who, you know, Kevin McCarthy took his job.
Must have been pretty powerful back then, too.
Paul Ryan told President Trump, wait until after the midterms.
We'll build the wall in 2019, Mr.
President. Well, of course, the Republicans, under Ryan's pathetic leadership, lost the House in 2018.
We still don't have it back.
So the two most feasible years were squandered by the likes of Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy and all of these hucksters in the House who pretend to care about you and pretend to care about President Trump.
They passed the buck.
And now here we are, years down the line, experiencing an immigration invasion, a colonization effort like never before seen at our southern border.
And the Republicans get to go on Fox News and talk about, dang, isn't that awful?
Maybe they should have done something if they actually cared about this country.
Maybe they should have worked with President Trump a little bit more.
Except now, of course, what are they doing?
They're using all of Trump's talking points.
They're raising money using his name and their emails, which he's asked them to stop, by the way.
They operate with impunity, and they think that you're stupid.
stupid. They think that you're going to go along with it because they've got an R next
to their name. Utterly and completely pathetic. In the next segment, we'll go into more of
the COVID-19 power grab and what it means and how desperate they're getting to make
you believe they're garbage. Don't go away. You're watching The War Room. Welcome back
to The War Room. I am Tom Paffert, filling in today.
I'm editor-in-chief of NationalFile.com.
You can read my work there.
And this article is particularly hilarious.
I think the Democrats, I think the globalists, the Fauci's, the Gates, the Bidens of the world, well, Biden doesn't realize anything, but the rest of them are starting to realize that people are not buying into their propaganda anymore.
This is so important. It's so important that you continue to share these links and continue to tell your friends and your family and your neighbors, don't take the COVID vaccine.
It's untested. You're a lab rat if you take it.
Don't wear the mask. It does nothing.
It'll make you sicker. It'll give you acne.
And by the way, tune in to Alex Jones.
Go to Infowarsstore.com to support his message.
I think they're starting to realize that this is happening and they can't control it.
All of their big tech censorship, all of their dogpiling on people like Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and anybody who dares to go against the grain, it's not working.
And my evidence for this is Fauci, Anthony Fauci, the God King of America, the man who reigns on high, he's been in this job longer than I've been alive, gets paid more than anybody else in government.
Fauci is now begging President Trump to tell, to order, really, his supporters to take the COVID vaccine.
This is the depth of depravity these people are getting to.
They're outright admitting that That Biden has no sway with probably more than half the country.
They're admitting that Fauci himself has no sway with probably over half the country.
None of these people do. Their reputation, if they ever had one, is shot to hell.
This is Fauci.
If he came out, meaning President Trump, and said, go get vaccinated, it's really important for your health, the health of your family and the health of your country, it seems absolutely inevitable that the vast majority of people who are his close followers would listen to him.
By the way, he's talking to Chris Wallace.
What is the problem here?
This is a vaccine that is going to be life-saving for millions of people.
I mean, I just can't comprehend what the reason for that is.
When you have a vaccine that's 94-95% effective and it is very safe, I just don't get it.
First of all, my God, I wish somebody would fire this guy for blatantly lying already.
We don't know if the vaccine is safe in the long term.
We don't know if it's effective.
It was billed as keeping you from ever getting COVID. If you take the shot, you won't get COVID. Then it became, okay, you might get COVID, but hopefully the symptoms will be mild.
Well, now there's no evidence of that.
Meanwhile, you get all of these disparate cases from all across the country and indeed the planet.
Any country that hasn't shut off these vaccines yet, you're getting reports, oh, a perfectly healthy supermodel-looking 39-year-old mother died after getting the vaccine.
Oh, an elderly person died after getting the vaccine.
An actor almost died after getting the vaccine.
And it just keeps happening. But he wants us to believe that it's very safe And 94, 95% effective, untested, totally novel way to do a vaccine, mRNA, they're rewriting your DNA potentially, totally untested, totally never even conceived of before.
And yet Dr. Fauci, he wants President Trump to go out there and tell everybody to take the shot.
And the real reason for this, I don't think Fauci cares.
I don't think he cares about you taking the shot.
I don't think he cares about conservatives.
I don't think he cares about this at all.
No. If Trump comes out and says, go take the shot, please do it for me, do it for your favorite president, that would be, for a lot of people, Perhaps the final nail in the coffin of Trump's legacy.
If he were to just, after leaving office when there's no reason to do it, totally go 100% on board with Fauci and Gates and these hell demons, that would drive a lot of people away from him.
That's why Fauci wants him to do this.
He wants President Trump's supporters to totally and completely abandon him, and that's probably one of the few things you could do to make it happen.
But Fauci, this is the other thing.
There's supposed to be a carrot and a stick here, right?
There's supposed to be, if you do the shot, if you make yourself into a lab rat...
Then we will give you a little bit more freedom.
But they can't do that.
They can't make it all about the vaccines because this all ends with the COVID passport and you have to get three rubber stamps just to leave your house in the morning.
And we all know this. And it's being evidenced by Fauci's counterparts in another country nearby Canada.
Let's go to clip number seven.
unidentified
Close to 600,000 Canadians have had the second dose.
Can they, for example, if they hug their loved one who hasn't had a dose, can they asymptomatically transfer it to someone?
Or can they just kind of, we're safe now, we've had the vaccine, we're going to function normally, come over for dinner.
Well, for now, keep up with those precautions because there's two reasons.
One is that if you got vaccinated, it's never 100%.
So keeping up with some of these personal protective layers is still important.
Can you transmit to someone else if you're vaccinated?
That we don't know yet.
But there's more and more data that shows that it's quite likely that those who are vaccinated are less likely to transmit.
But that data is forthcoming.
So just hang on tight for a bit.
tom pappert
So that's what they're saying in Canada, where church leaders are being thrown in prison, pastors are rotting in jail for months because they dared to preach when that vile woman told them not to, when Canadian Fauci said no.
That's what they're saying. They're a lot more honest, I do have to admit.
Does the vaccine mean that we can't spread it?
We don't know. Is it 100% effective?
No, we don't know.
Take it anyway, though, and then sit in your house like a little slave until we let you come back out to play.
Until maybe someday we'll give you some of your rights back.
But just this is what's actually going to happen.
And we'll get into this with our guest coming up on the other side, Jules Gomez, who's a
writer for Church Militant.
He writes a lot about the Catholic opposition or what should be the Catholic opposition
to the vaccines.
And we're going to also get his thoughts on the pope going to an ancient pagan temple
to pray.
Absolutely bizarre stuff.
But this is where it's all leading.
Catholic deception, Israel group, Radiant Israel, compares COVID-19 vaccine pass to
Second Holocaust.
And what's happening in Israel, and this is absolutely the blueprint, it's going to come
to your country, it's going to come to my country, it's going to be in Wichita, Kansas,
it's going to be in Austin, Texas, it's going to be everywhere before they're done.
It's the green COVID pass.
They have a green passport system.
Why it's green, I have no idea.
Maybe that means you're good to go.
But if you are in Israel, and you own a business, and you have been vaccinated and all of your
employees have been vaccinated.
You can participate in the Green Passport program.
And in that program, other people who have been vaccinated and carry around their little passport will be allowed to go to some bars, gyms, restaurants, everything.
But these are going to be only people who have been vaccinated going to businesses owned and operated by people who have been vaccinated.
Anybody who does not want to take the vaccine in Israel, anybody who has not yet had the vaccine in Israel, you will be confined to your home until you die.
This isn't even a joke anymore.
This isn't exaggeration.
This is the official policy of one of the leading countries in the Middle East, and nobody says anything.
Nobody says anything because that's going to come here.
This is the plan.
And that's why it's so important that we wake people up and make them understand what's really at stake here.
This isn't a joke. This isn't funny.
This isn't lighthearted.
This is an end of civilization moment.
This is a flashpoint in time where either people are going to stand up against this insanity or we're going to fall to it.
And the beautiful part is I think it's waking people up.
I think when they see Fauci spout this garbage, it fills them with rage and that rage inspires them to learn.
I think that this is a tremendous opportunity to red pill the masses, but it's up to people like you.
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Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Papert. Now I'm joined by Dr.
Jules Gomez, a very impressive individual with a very impressive resume.
He is the Rome correspondent for Church Militant.
You can also find his work at Rebel Priest.
And Jules, you have been doing a tremendous job going into what is happening with both
the COVID vaccine and the insanity of the pope.
And you are a Catholic priest, and so I'll try not to be too derogatory towards the head
But this Iraq trip just seemed like it was a step too far.
There were no Jews allowed.
There was no Jesus allowed.
It was at an ancient pagan temple in the Iraqi ruins of Ur, which comes from ancient Sumeria.
I mean, what on earth is going on in the Vatican right now?
unidentified
Well, Tom Buonasera, good evening from the Eternal City.
Let me clarify, I'm not a Catholic priest, but I am a Catholic journalist working for one of the, I think, best Catholic media companies in the world, Church Militant.
Well, first of all, let me say that this is bizarre.
This is absolutely unheard of.
Never in 2000 years of church history have we seen a pope get up to so much that is contrary to the Catholic faith.
And if you're talking about Iraq, that has its Precedents in things that are equally bizarre, like his 2018 document on human fraternity that Pope Francis signed with the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed Al-Tayyem.
Now these things come as shockers to many faithful Catholics, Because Jesus, our Lord, commanded us to go to the whole world and preach the good news, to make disciples, to baptize, to convert.
But Pope Francis is reversing all this, it seems, and this particular trip to Iraq is ostensibly to promote, to support persecuted Christians who have been terrorized, who have been nearly wiped out from Iraq.
But the Pope, by going there, has done precisely the opposite, many commentators say.
And what he's done is by affirming Islam As equally valid in a sense, he's basically sent out a message that there should now be a moratorium on Christian mission.
Well, you guys there, he's saying, stop evangelizing the Muslims and just learn to coexist.
And as you rightly pointed out, by holding this at the sight of Ur, which The planes of Ur, again Old Testament scholars, and I am an Old Testament scholar, contest whether this was actually the birthplace of Abraham.
But he's gone there to this ancient pagan temple that Old Testament scholars compare, the ziggurat at least.
He's not gone actually to the temple, but by the side of the ziggurat, which scholars actually link to the ancient Tower of Babel that God condemns in the book of Genesis, that God mocks and laughs at.
That is a paradigm of globalist totalitarianism.
And it's so ironic that the Pope is going and holding interfaith dialogues with Muslims.
He was supposed to do that with the Jews, but the Jews did not turn up, and the Pope has said nothing protesting the exclusion of the Jews.
tom pappert
So what do you make of the speech itself?
I mean, I read that in your writing at churchmilitant.com, he didn't even mention Jesus once.
It was all just bizarro, Old Testament, we need to be nice to the Muslims type stuff.
unidentified
Well, you're absolutely right.
He did not mention Jesus.
Poor Jesus was left out of this interfaith meeting.
He didn't mention Jesus.
Jesus was not even mentioned in the prayer.
The prayer was not made as is common to God the Father, because the Muslims don't refer to God as Father.
There was another prayer as well and another talk given by the Pope where again he made no mention of Jesus and neither did the prayer make mention of Jesus.
Now the Pope is touting this as a success and the liberal media has fallen completely for this.
I mean, they like Pope Francis very, very much.
That the establishment Catholic media is also blowing the Iraq trumpet, but they don't realize that by going there, the Pope has actually stoked this ancient hatred between Shia and Sunni, and I'm writing a piece on that in a couple of days.
He's also stoked a political firestorm in Kurdistan, where they used the opportunity to publish a stamp With a map of Greater Kurdistan behind an image of the Pope.
So, I mean, it's just absolutely crazy, that's all I can say.
Insanity in the highest.
tom pappert
And so we know the Muslims didn't like it.
They view him as weak.
They view him as somebody who works with evil leaders.
They viewed it as a mockery of an event.
But I have to ask, and this is something that you and I have talked about before, normal, average, everyday Catholics are not necessarily the people who are Pope Francis' biggest proponents.
They're not necessarily the people who read and subscribe to these What in your estimation is the response from normal red-blooded Catholics across the planet who are just wondering what the hell is going on?
unidentified
Well, this is a very serious problem in the Catholic Church.
There has been no catechesis, no teaching for ages, and so your normal average cafeteria Catholic has literally been brainwashed into thinking that all faiths are equally valid, all religions are equally valid.
However, as you implied in your question, the faithful Catholic who wants to evangelize, the faithful Catholic who does not believe that Muhammad and Jesus are on the same level, is hopping mad.
And the faithful Catholic is growing more and more angry, outraged, with this particular pontificate, because what Pope Francis is doing with the faithful Catholic He's throwing, you know, he's throwing gold to the liberals.
And then when faithful Catholics demonstrate their outrage, he'd throw a few crumbs to faithful conservative Catholics and kind of try and keep them happy.
So this sort of deceptive strategy that some have described as always Peronist, because the Pope was a Peronist at one point in Argentina, is playing out before our eyes in the Vatican, even as we see it.
tom pappert
And I think we saw one of those crumbs today where after, I mean, the guy, Pope Francis the Vatican, helped fund Elton John's documentary where it was all about how he found love in his gay marriage to his husband.
And then today, Pope Francis says, no, no, no, we can't officiate gay weddings.
What are you, crazy? And I mean, that just seems so hypocritical and contradictory to me.
unidentified
Well, it is.
It is. And just six months ago, I think, we did a story when Pope Francis caused a huge level of scandal.
He affirmed a gay couple, an Italian gay couple, who had three children by artificial insemination, which is totally contradictory to Catholic teaching.
I mean, this made such big news that the world media, again, the left-wing media, jumped on it and said, wow, we've got a Pope who finally affirms gay marriage.
And all of a sudden, he's kind of negated what he said, and he's done this because on Friday, there was a Vatican statement banning private masses and pushing traditionalist Latin masses underground in the catacombs.
And faithful Catholics, again, are mad all over the world And so as they get outraged, Pope Francis comes and pats them on the back and says, oh, you know, I'm not that bad after all.
Listen, here's a statement of negating the validity of same-sex blessings.
tom pappert
Fascinating. Let's talk in the next segment about these fetal baby cells that are being passed off as vaccines.
They haven't been tested. We don't know if they're safe.
You get the dead baby DNA and you're shot into your arm and you still can't go outside without a mask.
You still have to social distance.
Catholics should be up in arms against this.
There's absolutely no reason for it.
You've got some great work on that up at Church Militant.
We'll be right back.
We are here with Jules Gomez.
Don't go away.
Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Pampert.
Filling in today, my guest for the rest of this hour is Dr.
Jules Gomez.
He is a journalist at ChurchMilitant.com.
You can follow him on Twitter at Dr. Jules Gomez.
One thing that we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about, and you have done a phenomenal
job covering it, is the COVID vaccine push.
And the Pope seems to be behind it, but just by the fact that the vaccine seemed to require abortions to happen, it seems as though it should preclude faithful Catholics from taking the dang thing.
What are your thoughts on this, and what is the message coming out of the Vatican?
unidentified
Tom, one of the things that has encouraged me over the years the most about the Roman Catholic Church has been its absolutely, utterly categorical position on abortion.
No other church, in my opinion, has such an unambiguous position.
And now, when we are almost on the cusp of history with the explosion of this so-called pandemic, The Pope, who is supposed to uphold the one holy Catholic and apostolic faith, has turned out to be a vaccine zealot.
It's so serious that I didn't go, by the way, on his trip to Iraq because the Holy See press office required all journalists to be vaccinated.
And I said, along with a few other journalists, I'm not going to inject that experimental gene therapy stuff into my body.
Now, the Pope claims to have taken the vaccine himself.
Apparently, Pope Benedict also was pushed into taking this vaccine.
And it's very interesting that And although Pope Francis claims to have taken the vaccine, there have been no photographs of him getting the shot.
And Pope Francis loves the camera.
He loves to get photographs kissing the feet of Muslim immigrants, for example.
You know, you can see all those on the Internet.
But isn't it strange that this most significant event was not photographed?
So he claims to have taken the shot.
The Vatican, the Pontifical Academy for Life, and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith have both issued statements telling Catholics That the vaccine is not particularly morally problematic.
And here's the reasoning. Here's their reasoning.
Because the murder of the babies that was committed in 1974, some of the vaccines are derived from the HEK293 cell line.
Which stands for Human Embryonic Kidney.
Kidney tissue was taken.
The other vaccine, PERC6, or rather the fetal line, PERC6, has fetal cells taken from a retina of an 18-week-old aborted fetus.
So, you see the horrendous nature of the crime.
These babies have not even had the dignity of a proper burial.
Their cell lines have been taken and marketed.
You can go on the internet and you can buy these cell lines for as cheap as a couple of hundred dollars and use it for various purposes.
And the Vatican under Pope Francis is now urging Catholics and actually telling Catholics, it's your moral duty for the sake of the common good to take this vaccine.
And coming back to the moral reasoning, the moral reasoning is these horrendous acts were perpetrated so long ago that anybody taking the vaccine is Remotely distant from the crime of abortion, murder, and therefore not directly cooperating in that evil which took place.
But come on, if you gave me a handbag of hair made from somebody who was, you know, Whose head was shorn during the Holocaust at a Nazi concentration camp, and you tell me it is from that person, I would be repulsed and I would refuse to take it.
Why can't the Vatican see that?
tom pappert
Well, that is fascinating.
I mean, I guess maybe murder is no longer one of the cardinal sins, so long as it's 50, 60 years ago.
I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
That would seem to follow logically.
So, I mean, obviously you are not the pope.
You are not a theologian, but you are not a bishop.
You're not in charge of anything.
But what would your message be to Catholics out there who, on one hand, the pope is saying, go take your demon shot.
It'll make you all better.
And on the other hand, 2,000 years of doctrine, Well, thankfully, there have been a few bishops who have come out strongly against the vaccine.
unidentified
Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas is one of them.
There have been a number of smaller groups here.
A couple of days ago, top academics from the The Catholic University of America came up very strongly condemning the vaccine.
One of them, Dr.
Katherine Pakaluk, she said, you can't be an abolitionist and continue to own a slave.
And I would use the same metaphor and tell Catholics, well, if you're fighting against slavery, for the abolition of slavery, and you have a slave at home, there's something wrong.
Why on earth take this vaccine?
We are told that it does not prevent you from catching the COVID-19 virus.
We are told it does not help in preventing transmission.
We are told that you won't be able to take off your mask or assemble or hug your grandmother.
So what's the point in taking the vaccine?
Have faith in God and also use your common sense.
That would be my message to Catholics and to all people of goodwill.
tom pappert
Well, that seems logical to me, and you're right.
I mean, there's no benefit to this thing.
And what it's all coming down to, I think, they're telling you, yeah, take the demon shot, rewrite your DNA, let Bill Gates own you, and then you still have to stay in your house, you still have to wear a mask until everybody gets the vaccine and And then we have some sort of passport system.
So we're seeing that roll out in Israel.
They're calling it the green passport system, where once you've taken the fetal baby vaccine, then you can go out and go hang out and go engage in commerce with other people who have taken this exact vaccine.
What is your thought on that?
That seems to be where this is headed, COVID passports.
unidentified
Well, let me say I love Israel.
I read Biblical Hebrew.
My PhD is in the Torah, in the Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible.
And when I see what is happening in Israel, along with a few of my Jewish friends, we are absolutely horrified.
They should know better.
They should have heard about the Nuremberg laws and the Nuremberg Code, and they have virtually instituted a medical apartheid in Israel.
There are Jewish Scholars, doctors, there's a rabbi who is speaking out, and they're calling it a second holocaust.
I mean, this is absolutely horrifying.
The other thing people are not waking up to is this old saying, follow the money.
Who on earth is making billions out of the vaccine?
The pharma companies, who on earth has pumped billions into vaccines over the last 10 years?
Somebody who couldn't get software right.
I mean, if you couldn't trust Bill Gates to take the virus out of Microsoft and Windows, are you trusting him to take the virus out of the global so-called pandemic we're having?
And if you go to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation website, you will see that Tons of money that he has invested into the vaccines, because as he said, I think he said this to the Wall Street Journal some time ago, he said it's going to give him a 10 ton No return of profit than investing in software.
Now, of course, he's colored that by saying, oh, people are going to be healthier, etc., etc., etc.
But Bill Gates and the globalists who are pushing the vaccine, all of them, whether it's Klaus Schwab or whether it's Jeffrey Sachs, again, Vatican, wake up!
These are pro-abortionists.
They have no respect for the sanctity of life.
And if they cannot respect the life of a vulnerable baby in the womb, you expect them to respect you, a 30, 40, 50, 70-year-old person?
tom pappert
Come on! It's never going to happen.
Never going to happen.
Dr. Jules Gomez, you are a wealth of information.
You are doing tremendous work.
ChurchMillitan.com is where folks can find your work and they can follow you on Twitter at Dr.
Jules Gomez. Thank you so much for joining us.
This is absolutely killer.
I hope that people see there is still sanity in the Catholic Church.
Welcome back to the War Room.
We are now into the second hour.
I am Tom Papert, editor-in-chief of NationalFile.com, filling in today And, boy, let me tell you, that interview in the last half of the last hour was truly phenomenal.
It's amazing to see a Catholic, a top Catholic, a theologian, an academic, a scholar, basically sound just like Alex Jones when he's talking about Bill Gates and the aborted fetus vaccine, when he's talking about, of course, the Pope going to the pagan temple to pray with Muslims and exclude Christians, exclude Jesus and exclude Jews.
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And so I do though think that Alex Jones is having a big effect, especially on people like Jules.
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Very soon we will be joined by Sue Peters. He is the host of Patriotically Correct Radio,
one of the top growing radio shows in the country. And before we do that, I want to
go into some of the insanity that's happening right now in the United States military, something
we've talked about when I've guest hosted here before, but it's very, very apparent.
This is not your grandpa's armed forces.
Don't go away. You're watching The War Room.
Welcome back. You are watching The War Room.
I'm Tom Pappert filling in for the rest of today.
Over the weekend and really starting last week...
All hell broke loose in our nation's armed forces when Tucker Carlson had the audacity to question maternity flight suits.
That's right. You may remember we were talking about that last week on the broadcast.
Joe Biden forgot the name of Lloyd Austin, his Raytheon-branded Secretary of Defense.
He forgot the name of the Pentagon, you know, the thing with all the sides.
It's got five of them.
He forgot the name of that.
And then he declared that his administration, his regime, is working night and day to develop something called maternity flight suits.
And nobody has been able to explain what the hell these things are or what they're going to be used for.
Are we going to have eight months pregnant women climbing into their maternity flight suit And it's going to protect the baby?
How does this work? I mean, women in the armed forces get time off when they have children.
They get desk duty first, where they're sitting in an office somewhere, and then when they go into labor, they get maternity leave, and they spend time off with their child afterwards, and then they come back.
Now that's, you know, I get the argument for why we don't want women in combat roles, but that at least makes sense.
But no, Joe Biden specifically said, we are going to put women in maternity flight suits and let them fly aircraft at G4 speeds.
And the kid's going to be okay because, again, maternity flight suits.
And so Tucker Carlson being somebody with a very high IQ, definitely above the room temperature that you would need to hear the words maternity flight suits and not go, what, what?
Tucker Carlson criticized it, and the military of various branches, virtually every branch at this point, shot back on Twitter.com.
So the Marines were potentially the most egregious of the bunch, but there were two army generals who got involved.
The U.S. Space Command senior enlisted leader called it drama TV. But what's so strange about his statement is he specifically said, look, when women get pregnant, we'd take them off duty.
But that's not what Tucker was talking about.
Do these people not listen to their own commander in chief?
Joe Biden says pregnant women will fly fighter jets.
It's just, when you say those words aloud, it sounds insane.
And then you have a general, Patrick Donahue, a major general, one of the highest-ranked people to criticize Tucker, posted a video of himself swearing in the re-enlistment of a couple young ladies and said, just a reminder that Tucker Carlson couldn't be more wrong.
Then, a four-star Army General, Paul Funk, he said that pregnant women serving in the
military are beacons of freedom and they prove Carlson wrong through determination and dedication.
We're fortunate to have them serve.
That is a four-star general.
Then, of course, you have this Brian Russell character who is the head, the commanding
officer of the 2MEF Information Group, which is a Marine unit, is sharing all kinds of
tweets about how Twitter is just owning Tucker Carlson today.
Now, they've since deleted the tweet that was the most egregious of the bunch when they
told somebody who asked them, please, focus on China and not Tucker Carlson.
They shot back, come back when you've served and been pregnant.
Now they're backpedaling as fast as they can.
They've deleted that tweet.
They're apologizing profusely.
They're saying things like, we've strayed away from our brand.
They have a brand. Oh, they're just like Pizza Hut and McDonald's.
We've strayed away from our brand and realized that.
Our standard practices will be in effect, and you can count on us correcting this mistake going forward.
We can do better, they told Peter DeBrasco when he asked if they're going to target him for his political beliefs next.
We will collectively take a knee, review our procedures, and get back in the fight.
And this all started after they posted a tweet telling Tucker Carlson, who at 51 years old is a member of Generation X, to get right before you get left, boomer.
So we remember some of the big stories over the past five years.
You all remember Reality Winner, who turned out to be a reality loser, who was leaking information from the Trump administration, leaking information about the military because she just hated Trump.
We all remember that goofy little Antifa soldier, I think he was in the Army, might have been the Marines a couple years back, who was posting videos and photos of himself with Antifa shirts underneath his uniform.
We all remember this, but at the time we all just hoped that those were the exceptions and not the rules, that the military wasn't that bad.
But I'm hearing daily at this point from people who are currently enlisted, who have just got out, who have just retired, and they're saying, no, this is what Obama has done to the military.
They have turned it into a P-word hat-wearing contingent of transgenders and freaks.
Who will absolutely, if given an unconstitutional order after Biden has ordered to give one, will absolutely go take your guns, go haul you away.
Whatever their commander in chief tells them to do, so long as it's inclusive and gender neutral and definitely keeps minorities safe, they're going to do it.
And this is...
A rude awakening for Americans, but I think it's an important one.
There is no longer a single institution in this country that is designed to protect you.
The FBI will hunt you down if you even tweeted about the January 6th Capitol Hill protests, and before you know it, you'll be dying in jail.
The Attorney General is a guy by the name of Merrick Garland, who has been itching, just burning to take your gun since the year 2000, and now Joe Biden will give him the means to do so.
The Armed Forces has declared war on Tucker Carlson!
The intelligence community was hell-bent on deposing a duly elected president.
Congress is made up of a bunch of useless, feckless Republicans who lie to get donations, essentially, on the Republican side.
And on the Democrat side, these people are demonstrably evil.
Nothing else needs to be said.
There is no institution left that is what your grandfather had when he was alive, when he was in his prime.
There is no institution left in this country that is pure.
The post office.
They used the post office to arrest Steve Bannon and Brian Colfage.
The guy has like one limb.
And they made him crawl.
The post office. They sent a mailman with a gun after people.
There is not one little bit of this country that is not soaked in leftist filth.
And I think it's time that we realize nobody is coming to save us.
We have to save ourselves.
We have to get serious. We have to stop donating to the Republican Party.
We have to look very, very carefully at individual candidates.
We have to be very diligent about where we are spending our time and effort.
And we have to start systematically unseating these people until they're not just doing a little bit so the peasants won't revolt.
No, we have to actually start turning the tides.
Because otherwise, I mean, transgender flight suits.
Is that what's next? Maternity flight suits.
And by the way, all of these people, the Marines, the two generals, the space command leader, none of them None of them addressed Joe Biden's actual claim.
They turned an attack on maternity flight suits into an attack on all women serving.
Maternity flight suits.
How do you not laugh when you say these things?
Nobody defending women serving was actually defending maternity flight suits.
They were using it as a cheap opportunity for To attack a cable news host, a private individual not affiliated with the armed forces, not in the government, to attack some random guy with a TV show.
This is the new look of our military.
They will protect Joe Biden, the Alzheimer's patient who gets up there and says we're going to put eight months pregnant women in a flight suit and send her into space.
They will protect that guy by calling one of the most...
Really powerful voices in conservative media, a bigot and a misogynist, because he doesn't want maternity flight suits.
How does that work? Are there any engineers out there who can explain, or a doctor?
I need like a coalition of people, maybe a plumber too, to explain how a woman's fetus can survive, uh, Welcome back to the War Room.
I am Tom Papert, filling in today.
My guest for the next few segments is a man by the name of Stu Peters.
He is the host of the Patriotically Correct radio show, one of the fastest growing radio
shows in the country.
So glad you could join us, Stu.
One of the real reasons I wanted to have you on is because you are based out of Minneapolis,
which of course has descended into a third world Somalian hell zone, and may descend
into it once more as the trial of Derek Chauvin, the police officer accused of killing, murdering,
destroying George Floyd, is now on trial.
What is going on with this case?
And more importantly, what is going on with your city and your poor state?
stew peters
Well, thanks a lot for having me, first of all.
Infowars, wow. Somebody pinched me.
It's a great honor to be here.
And Tom, I appreciate it.
You know, the city of Minneapolis is not and should not surprise anybody.
It doesn't surprise me that this liberal, radical jihad-ville filled with terrorists is is responsible for gaslighting the entire nation and what we are looking at here as the next international SIOP, responsible for convincing everybody that they're racist if they demand facts, if they believe in due justice or due process for justice, if they don't have the patience to wait before burning down entire city blocks, before raping and pillaging and robbing and looting and assaulting and lighting Occupied police precincts on fire in the name of a career criminal,
a violent home-invading thug with an extensive criminal history.
I mean, this guy's criminal history is more lengthy than the Clintons combined.
And so it shouldn't surprise anybody that this is coming out of Minneapolis.
Now, what I will say is that the third degree murder charge has been reintroduced here.
Now, we all know that originally Mike Freeman, who is the county attorney for Hennepin County,
which is where Minneapolis is located, he originally came out when this thing was brand new.
And he said, I remember the backdrop.
This video has been deleted. It's gone much like most of Infowars stuff.
But anyway, he was standing in front of, I believe it was a Skyway, when he said, you know, I'm really not that confident in what we have here.
I have reviewed what nobody else has been able to see.
Okay, that was the body camera footage of the, you know, eight minute and 40 second long incident that took place there over on the south side of Minneapolis.
And he said, I'm not really confident in a murder charge.
I'm not confident that I'll be able to have anything stick here.
And I need to get back with you people on this.
Listen, I'm not going to rush this thing.
We have a thing called due process.
And this is a guy who hates the police.
This is a guy who vehemently hates the police and will do whatever he can do to destroy cops.
All right? This guy said, I don't have enough.
Well, then of course, Keith Hakeem, Keith Hakeem Mohammed X, I guess you call him, Keith Ellison is what he goes by now, formerly the self-proclaimed radical Muslim that celebrated the death of cops in his own writings, is now the Attorney General here in the People's Republic of Minnesota under the governance of Tim Jung Walls, right? And he said, look, I'm taking this case away from Mike Freeman.
I'm taking this case away from the Hennepin County Attorney's Office.
I'm taking this case away from the proper jurisdictional authority that's supposed to oversee the prosecution of any crime that happens with inside the county of Hennepin.
Unprecedented. But he took this on because he has to pander.
He's got political aspirations.
He's got motivations, a self-propelling platform, if you will, that he had to take on this case.
And then he brought these murder charges.
He threw in manslaughter.
Well, that case is completely imploding.
Everybody knows why it's imploding.
Well, because the facts that have come out, even before the trial starts, is the medical examiner said whether or not George Floyd had contact with anybody on that day, whether he had contact with Derek Chauvin, any other Minneapolis cop, or if he had contact with Dr.
Seuss or Santa Claus or Aunt Jemima, he was going to die that day.
It didn't matter what racist he had contact with, he was going to die because he had ingested with the coroner revealed as a lethal amount, a quote, let me repeat that, lethal amount of fentanyl and meth in his system.
Everybody knows that when he got out of that vehicle, before he ever even was physically contacted, before anybody said anything, George Floyd stepped out of that vehicle and was saying, I can't breathe.
I can't breathe. Well, yeah, that's because you just ingested a lethal amount of fentanyl and meth.
Enough fentanyl, Patrick, by the way, or excuse me, Tom, by the way, to kill three human beings.
All right? So... That's what's going on here in Minneapolis.
And the case is imploding.
They've reintroduced Murder 3 because they know that they're not going to get a conviction.
Keith Ellison, that man right there, represents the extremist Muslim celebrating the death of cops.
Right there. And that is who is in charge of prosecuting.
This guy could never get a fair trial no matter what end of the earth he crawls to.
That is him right there.
The Antifa anti-fascist handbook is what he used when he thought he was coming after President Donald Trump.
Despicable, unbelievable, disgusting.
tom pappert
So, Stu, let's talk a little bit about this judge and the jury selection.
By the way, folks, I highly encourage folks to follow you on Twitter, at RealStuPeters.
Go check out thepcradioshow.com, Patriotically Correct Radio.
But let's talk about the judge, because the judge so far has said that you are not allowed, the prosecution is not allowed to refer to George Floyd as the gentle giant, and they have also said that you are not allowed to I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh.
It's very serious, but it's at the same time.
We live in a clown world.
You are not allowed to compare the death of George Floyd to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
That actually came out of the judge and is probably going to be necessary by time the trial ends.
So what do you make of the jury selection so far?
It seems as though we might actually have, knock on wood, the first time in my living memory, a fair and impartial judge presiding over the trial.
stew peters
Well, you know, fair or impartial judge is kind of beside the point because Derek Chauvin is going to be tried by a jury of his peers.
We all know what the city of Minneapolis is comprised of.
I mean, you can't go down the street without bumping into hundreds of people.
And I would say out of those hundreds, thousands of them are complete idiots.
So what's happening here is you have 12 people that are going to be assigned to this jury that are going to deliberate on this evidence.
And Every single one of these people, they're lying to you if they say, no, I have no idea anything about this case.
Well, I might have saw a little bit of this and a little bit of that on the news.
The media has done in this city and across the nation, as far as this case is concerned, globally, the media has already taken this narrative.
They have pushed the agenda.
They have... Tried this man already.
They have found him guilty in the court of public opinion.
And by the likes of every single radical Democrat, every single progressive that has hijacked the Democrat Party, including Kamala Harris, who, by the way, was urging people to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which, by the way, was responsible for taxpayer dollars, bailing out every single violent insurrectionist that took over the city of Minneapolis, that blocked off alleys that wouldn't let citizens come out
of their own alleyways to go to the grocery store, to go to their work, to leave
their local community because all the staples had already been burned down.
They can't go to the grocery store.
They can't go to the corner market.
They can't get a prescription filled or buy diapers for their kids because their entire
community was burned to the ground.
So the judge really, although be it might be the most impartial person on the face of
the planet, really doesn't have anything to say about this thing, except for when it comes
to sentencing, should he be convicted.
tom pappert
And that is a phenomenal point.
When we get back, let's talk a little bit about some of the jury selection because I've been reading it on Twitter.
I've seen a little bit of it. And I mean, half of them, first of all, it seems like they are illiterate.
They do not speak English.
A lot of them seem to lie, as you said, just blatantly be lying to try to get a seat on this jury.
But there's also been some good ones.
And then, of course, today there is a big push after the city of Minneapolis agreed to pay out $27 million to the Floyd family.
There is a big push to get this thing moved out of that court and hopefully out of that city.
Who knows if that would be better?
We'll be right back. Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Pappert, joined by Stu Peters of the Patriotically Correct radio show.
Follow him on Twitter at RealStuPeters.
We've been talking about the George Floyd death trial that is now ongoing.
We've talked about the jury selection, which the base they're selecting from is a bunch of insane people who are probably half of them Somali.
Maybe those are his peers in the city of Minneapolis.
Absolutely disgusting.
But today, of course, the news broke that the defense is asking for a change in venue because the city of Minneapolis is giving the Floyd family a $27 million settlement, which would seem to admit blame even before the trial has really started.
They're in jury selection. This also comes after, I think, the Floyd family raised $30 million on GoFundMe.
So these people are soon going to be worth $100 million I remember in the days after Floyd's death, one of his children, one of his sons, found out who his dad was by watching the news.
He was watching the news with his mother, and the mom goes, son, do you know who that is?
That's your dad. The guy never even met his dad, but now he's going to get some cut of almost 60 or maybe over $60 million.
But, Stu, what are your thoughts on this?
Does this earn a change in venue, or is this what we're stuck with?
stew peters
First, I want to address that point.
This is the problem that nobody wants to talk about inside of the black community all over this country, and that is fatherless homes.
That is the genocide that's taking place inside of black and brown minority communities from the north side of Minneapolis to the south side of Minneapolis, the south side of Chicago, in and out of Baltimore, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all of these places, Philadelphia.
I mean, the list goes on and on and on in these democratically controlled cities where everybody wants to point a finger and talk about gun control.
Guns kill people. No, no, no.
That's not what's happening here.
What's happening is black people are hurting black people.
Black kids are killing black kids.
And nobody wants to touch that topic.
The problem is not the guns.
The problem is who has them.
And if you want to make it illegal for me to carry a gun, that's fine.
Well, it's not fine.
But most law-abiding citizens will scrupulously adhere to the letter of the law.
Criminals don't like the law.
Criminals don't like the police.
And criminals will still possess them, thereby only disarming the good people.
And everybody of sane mind knows that.
Everybody who has a sound intellect understands that.
Liberal Democrats don't want to talk about the pink elephant in the room.
The real problem that we have in minority communities is fatherless homes.
And that is why youth at a very young age overrun their mothers.
They have no respect.
They didn't have somebody in the home, a father that was going to bring them up right to instill good values inside of them.
That's why they have been emboldened.
That's why they're embracing.
That's why anytime they don't get anything that they want and get it immediately, they're They rob, they steal, they assault, they murder, they kill to go get it.
They smash up police cars.
They spit in the face of anybody with authority.
They throw chairs at teachers starting in high school.
They beat the crap out of their principal out by the flagpole.
They smash windows on squad cars.
They burn everything to the ground.
They rape, they pillage, they rob, and they steal.
And this is typically happening in black and brown communities.
The black community is the most violent community on the face of the planet.
Nobody else is to blame other than the liberal, leftist, radical leadership in this country that has done nothing but give these people more and more reward for less and less effort.
No work has to go into being great anymore.
Now, we could talk about great black people in our world.
We could talk about people like Well, I don't think she's that great, but Oprah Winfrey, extremely successful.
We could talk about Whoopi Goldberg.
Yeah, she's horrible, but extremely successful.
Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, LeBron James, 60% of the NBA. Colin Kaepernick.
tom pappert
I mean, the guy was adopted, had two great parents, and now he's like the spokesman of Nike and every other brand in the world.
stew peters
Making millions and millions out.
Here's another horrible example, but a great example of my point.
Don Lamont over at CNN. I mean, he made himself happen.
Now, regardless of the fact that he's talentless, he just had to even work more and more hard to get to where he is.
And his hard work, I guess, is making millions of dollars to be a vehement racist all over some fake news media broadcast network, but that's fine.
Regardless, I can't take anything away from the guy that he worked his butt off to get there, and now he's there.
So all of this, black people don't have a fair shake, Muslim people don't have a fair shake, trans, lesbian, bi, blah, blah, blah.
It's all a load of crap.
Listen, This is the melting pot of the entire world.
Anybody who wants to can be here.
Anybody who wants to be great can be here.
And millions of people flood into this country every single year to escape real oppression, real suppression, real genocide, real violence, real racism.
Now, I guess I forgot what the question was, but I know that we were talking about the George Floyd case.
tom pappert
The George Floyd trial.
Do you think that it is?
So now, of course, the city has given $27 million to the Floyd family.
It's just, I mean, it's disgusting the amount of wealth that has been just thrown at this family.
Now, do you think that that, so the defense obviously wants a change in venue because they're like de facto admitting guilt on behalf of the city.
I mean, what do you make of this?
stew peters
Well, what I make of it is, I mean, why not hand him $27 million?
Why wait for any kind of a due process?
Why wait for the justice system to do what it's supposed to do?
We're going to hand somebody $27 million before a verdict has ever even been brought up.
We don't know if this guy is guilty or not guilty.
That's because the case has not been tried.
It doesn't matter that I sit up here behind this microphone and say, well, the fact is that George Floyd was going to die regardless that day because the medical examiner has said that he ingested a lethal amount of fentanyl and meth.
It doesn't matter that he's a career criminal.
It doesn't matter that he resisted arrest.
It doesn't matter that he didn't follow the directions of Derek Chauvin or any one of the other officers that was there.
It doesn't matter that they tried to save his life.
It doesn't matter that he was alive 30 minutes after he got to the hospital.
It doesn't matter that none of that was brought up.
It doesn't matter because I am not the judge.
I am not the jury. I am not the so-called executioner.
I'm not deciding the fate of Derek Chauvin or any of the other officers.
And neither is anybody else on social media, Facebook, Twitter, or the likes who's jumping to the conclusion and making these guilty assessments.
There was a school here in the Stillwater School District of Minnesota that sent home a letter, an email out to all of the parents of that school district Saying that they have set up safe spaces and cry rooms for black kids to go sit in throughout this entire murder case.
Okay? During the murder of George Floyd.
The whole world will be watching as the case in the murder of George Floyd.
She's already convicted. The superintendent of a school district has already convicted Derek Chauvin of murder.
So does it surprise me?
27 million? 100 million?
Hell no, it doesn't surprise me.
Not one bit. We don't wait for justice here anymore.
The rule of law has completely gone away in this country.
And when the rule of law leaves, what you have left is a totalitarian, one-world-order system, and that is what we are looking for here.
Reparations with Gucci bags, okay?
Burn everything down if you don't get your way.
It's okay to break the law.
You can assemble in large groups as long as you're not a white, patriotic, America first, Trump-supporting, conservative.
Republican, I guess.
You don't have to wear a mask if you're a certain color skin or if you got rid of your man parts because you decided that you don't like a penis.
And this is the demasculization of our country.
This is the castration and neutering of our country.
And it's being done at the hands of liberal radical progressives who are dehumanizing people by dividing everybody.
And this case is nothing more than that.
I don't even know why we're trying a murder case.
The guy died of an overdose according to a medical expert.
Why are we even trying a murder case here?
tom pappert
As you said, that would not please Keith Ellison.
Facts have no place in this world, and I think you were totally right.
I think the real, the message here is that it's the feminization of America and it's
caused by getting parents out of the home.
And it's, and even Barack Obama said this, by the way, the former president, at the beginning
of his administration, he said, the best thing you can do for a black child is to have two
parents in the home.
But now this is racist.
This is wrong.
Burn down the city and get a bunch of money.
Stu, where can folks find you online?
Where can they find your show?
stew peters
Redvoicemedia.com.
That is where the truth lives.
And if you go there, you'll find me everywhere else.
Twitter, I'm in Telegram. I'm on Parler.
I'm on Facebook. I'm all over the place.
If you can still stomach that.
But yeah, thepcradioshow.com or redvoicemedia.com is where the truth lives.
tom pappert
Stu Peters, thank you so much for joining us.
I highly recommend folks follow you, watch the show, read your articles, keep an eye on what you're doing because this guy has a front row seat for what is bound to be the summer of hell come again in Minneapolis.
Whether they convict him or whether they acquit him, you know there's going to be rioting, you know there's going to be looting.
Stu Peters has a front row seat for it in Minneapolis.
We'll be right back. Don't go away.
Welcome back to the War Room.
I am Tom Papert, filling in for Owen Schreier today.
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And Don Lemon, you may not know this about Don, not many do, but he is a theologian.
He is one of the great religious philosophers of our time.
He knows more than, not just this pope, he knows more than any pope.
And so today he responded to the Pope's pronouncement that you cannot have a gay marriage be officiated by a church.
Absolutely stunning. And he says, as the TV viewers can see on screen, God is not about judging people.
Isn't that amazing?
Don Lamont, the smartest theologian in the world, has good news from on high for murderers, serial killers, pedophiles, rapists.
God doesn't judge you.
God judges no man.
That's not what God does. That's not what Jesus is about at all.
That whole Judgment Day thing?
Totally misconstrued.
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You see, they've transformed God.
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And the God that is sold by the secular religion of the state is just warm and lovey and butterflies and fairy dust all the time.
There's nothing in the Bible, according to theologian Lamont, about how we're actually supposed to live our lives.
The article's up at NationalFile.com.
CNN anchor and amateur theologian Don Lamont declared that the Christian God is, quote, not about hindering people or even judging people during an appearance on The View.
Listen, I respect people's right to believe in whatever they want to believe, in their God.
But if you believe in something that hurts another person, that does not give someone the same rights or freedoms, not necessarily under the Constitution, because this is under God, I think that's wrong.
So you can believe whatever you want, but if you believe in the Bible, then you're just wrong, says Don Lamont on The View.
The View with Meghan McCain on there and Whoopi Goldberg and these other absolute lunatics.
He continues, He says that it is racist, it is homophobic, and it is wrong to believe in the Bible.
You can believe in that if you want, but you're just wrong, says Don Lamont.
You know, this is the insanity of our culture.
This is the insanity of our civilization at this point in time.
It would be shocking if the Catholic Church suddenly upended 2,000 years of teachings to make Don Lamont happy.
And to cater to the LGBTQIA++P community.
That's what would be shocking to see them do a total repudiation on everything they've said.
They already have, let's be clear.
I mean, you're gonna put dead baby cells into your DNA because Fauci and Bill Gates want you to, and Pope Francis says that's great and you have a responsibility to do it.
But they're not gonna budge on this one little sticking point that the Bible says marriage is meant to be between one man and one woman.
And so now everybody is feigning shock and surprise.
How dare the Catholic Church do this?
No, that is the one logical thing they've said in recent months.
By the way, Don Lamont, in 2020, right after the election, right after the great theft of President Trump's legacy, he went on CNN and he was doing an impassioned speech that somebody wrote for him on a teleprompter.
And at one point in the clip, it says to scream!
And what did Mr. Lamont do?
He said, scream.
He read the word scream.
And that is the great theologian that we have today.
Bigger than the Pope, bigger than the Saints, bigger than Martin Luther.
His name is Don Lamont.
Well, in the next hour, in the next segment, we're going to be joined by, maybe five after, we're going to be joined by Gavin Wax.
He's the president of the New York Young Republicans Club.
And he's written a fantastic article.
It's up at AmericanGreatness.com, and it's titled, The 800-Pound Gorilla in Trump's Inner Circle.
And this is something that I've been talking about more and more, and this is something that anybody who really has an idea of what's going on inside the Winter White House Mar-a-Lago has been very, very upset about.
And that is, how is the president, who has great instincts, did amazing things while in office, I mean, the guy is the embodiment of Americana, but why is he making these god-awful endorsements?
Why did he endorse Senator Jerry Moran in Kansas, who was saying that Trump incited the insurrection or the erection, maybe, on January 6th?
Why does that guy get an endorsement?
This is Kansas we're talking about.
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And he also endorsed Tim Scott, another guy who blamed him for the insurrection, another guy who is buying and taking hook, line and sink, or the Democrat propaganda.
Where are these endorsements coming from?
Well, Folks who are paying attention know that it's coming from people like Jared Kushner and this Steppian character, Trump's former campaign manager, who admits straight up that he doesn't know how to win an election.
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They're giving him advice that will destroy his legacy.
And probably keep him from winning in 2024 should he decide to run.
So let's read a little bit from this article and then we'll be joined by Gavin to kind of discuss the implications here.
President Donald Trump made his valiant and long-awaited return at the Conservative Political Action Conference where he made it clear that the GOP is the party of Trump and will be for the generation to come.
These are good developments, but it is important for those of us in the grassroots to begin demanding more from Trump.
Republicans must demand excellence of all their leaders, particularly at the highest levels of government.
It's not enough to have President Trump.
We've proven this. The last four years have proven that it's not enough to have one competent guy at the top.
As much of a hero and an icon as Trump is, he just could not whip the absolute losers in his party into action.
I don't think anybody could, short of God himself.
In the months following President Donald Trump's loss to the Biden fraud machine, writes Gavin Wax, there has been far too little introspection about what went wrong for the Trump campaign.
Trump supporters have blamed everything on outside forces responsible for voter fraud, while anti-Trump forces among conservatives deliberately have ignored evidence of electoral wrongdoing and used it to throw Trump under the bus.
But it comes down to personnel is policy.
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The reason why Trump is not on Gab and is not on Parler is because Brad Parscale, Jared Kushner, and Dan Scavino, they wanted a cut!
And they couldn't get it, so they left.
So it's time that we...
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But... I am a firm believer that more people are waking up right now due to the insanity of the COVID-19 hysteria, the scandemic, the lockdowns.
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Don't go away. We'll be right back.
Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Papert, Editor-in-Chief of NationalFile.com.
We are now into the third hour of the broadcast.
And my guest is Gavin Wax.
He is the president of the New York Young Republicans, where he is doing truly phenomenal work.
He's basically single-handedly reshaping the public image of Republicans in that state, which some may say is a lost cause, Gavin, but I think it's work that needs to be done.
But I wanted to have you on specifically to talk about an article you wrote just a few
days ago for American Greatness titled, The 800-Pound Gorilla in Trump's Inner Circle.
And this is something that I think the InfoWars audience is starting to learn more and more
about, that some of the people surrounding President Trump helping inform his decisions
on critical policy as well as endorsements are simply not America first.
In fact, they're the opposite of America first.
They might as well be in the Obama administration.
Tell us a little bit about this and name some names.
gavin wax
Yeah, absolutely, Tom.
You hit the nail on the head.
The biggest issue, I think, that faced Trump's first term was personnel.
The problem was that he was spearheading a movement that did not have the institutional framework and the infrastructure around it to properly staff his administration.
Sure, there were plenty of libertarians, there was plenty of neoconservatives, but there really wasn't a lot or at least a depth in terms of Human capital on the populist right.
So what you saw was a lot of bad appointments in his first term.
Many of those appointments ended up leaking.
They ended up sabotaging the agenda.
They ended up actively contributing to many failures and missteps the first four years.
Things were starting to get better.
That's why the second term was going to be so critical for the administration.
But the focus of this article was more specifically on Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, Who had probably more access and more of the president's ear than anyone, anyone probably would have anticipated.
And the article really contends that he was one of the biggest negative influences on this administration, pushing it off of its original mandate, off of what it was elected to do, and focused more in terms of what Jared wanted, more of a liberal cosmopolitan agenda, and certainly held back many of the great instincts that Trump has in terms of policy.
So that was really something that was disappointing to see.
tom pappert
So Gavin, this is something that is, I think, brave and I think needs to happen because I was told in, I think, 2017, midway through the year, in the first months of the first term, I had people from top immigration groups, I won't drop names, but they told me, Tom, never criticize Ivanka and never criticize Jared.
We made the mistake. I think?
And they lost all contact for criticizing Javanka, as they're called.
And so I think it's brave that you are willing to do this, willing to take on the standard, and I think more people need to do it.
That way, you can't cut out everybody from your inner circle just because they dared
to criticize your son-in-law.
Tell us a little bit about some of the specific things that Jared did.
Everybody kind of knows on a deep level that he is a bad voice for the president, but just
reading your article, it's baffling that this actually happened.
gavin wax
Yeah, absolutely.
And look, I'm a loyal Trump guy, and I think loyalty, whether it's in friendship or in
you need to be able to call out someone's failing.
You need to be able to call out someone's shortcomings.
That's what a good friend does, and that's how I view this.
I know when I put this article out, I got a lot of pushback.
Many people that are diehard loyalists basically attacking me because I dared to offer any criticism of Trump.
And I also pointed out, in terms of the election, I mean, yes, I believe that there was There was fraud.
I believe that this election was most likely stolen, but that should not distract away from some of the campaign blunders that were made.
Parscale was an appointee from the Jared wing or the Jared team.
He was not equipped to run this race.
There was a lot of grifting going on.
There was a lot of shenanigans financially going on and they put a lot of emphasis I'm not saying you can't try to win over more of the black vote, but you can't do it at the expense of your base, and you can't do it while sacrificing basic policy platforms.
So criminal justice reform was It's not exactly something that Trump ran on, but that became all of a sudden a big policy agenda because of Jared, because Jared pushed it.
It became part of the campaign talking points, and they really pushed aside immigration, as you mentioned.
And we didn't hear it again until the CPAC speech that Trump just gave post-presidency.
So that was one area that was of issue.
And then obviously Jared helped staff the administration.
Many of the worst hires from Trump, whether on the campaign side or whether on the administration side, were because of Jared.
Now, yes, sure, he helped with some Mideast peace deals, but I would argue that many of those peace deals were already in the works.
There was already a realignment happening in the Middle East between the Saudis, the Gulf states, and Israel.
Jared just simply happened to be there at the right time and helped facilitate.
These were things that were already moving into motion.
I think a lot of the credit that's given to him on that front is very much overblown.
But he really shifted them off message in terms of immigration, in terms of crime, in terms of getting on alternative platforms once he was banned from Twitter.
They were a big part of trying to kiss up to the Silicon Valley overlords rather than try to take the fight to them early on.
We still had the political capital to do so.
So the list goes on in terms of issues Both during the presidency and post-presidency, and that's why I'm very worried about what this post-presidency is going to look like in terms of endorsements, in terms of activism, because Kushner and Rollins and that whole crew is still calling the shots.
tom pappert
Well, and we've already seen some absolutely, I mean, just disturbingly bad endorsements.
And again, I've been on the Trump train since September, I think 19th of 2015.
I mean, I was an early adopter, like I think you were.
And it hurts to see him go and endorse people like Jerry Moran here in Kansas, people like Tim Scott, people who threw him under the bus on January 6th, people who refused to acknowledge the credible reports, credible accusations of widespread voter fraud.
People who accused him of inciting an insurrection or perhaps it's an erection.
I don't know if they know what the difference is.
But what do you attribute these to?
Do you think that it's still the Kushner effect?
Do you think that it's a deal with the devil of Mitch McConnell?
How are these happening in your estimation?
gavin wax
I think the Mitch McConnell angle is not in play anymore.
I think that was certainly something that was a factor during the presidency, and that's what we saw during the midterms and even before.
So that I think is out of play.
I think Mitch McConnell has burned his last bridge with Trump, which is a good thing.
I'm glad that's out of the picture.
But as far as some of these bipolar, if you can even say that, bipolar endorsements, I think it has to do with court intrigue.
I think a lot of the environment around Trump is really akin to a medieval court.
And whoever happens to have his ear, whoever happens to have his attention, can really sway his decisions, can sway policy, and can sway the direction of either the administration, the campaign, or the post-administration.
So what we're seeing now is really whoever would happen to have Trump's ear in one matter.
There's no real consistency.
There's no real overall framework for how these endorsements are getting pushed out.
And the biggest problem I think?
Straight from many great populist right-wing commentators.
Now that he's off Twitter, that stream of information is killed, unless maybe it comes through Donald Trump Jr.
or someone else. But that's the issue, and that's why I think Jared has been one of the biggest advocates to keep him off Parler, to keep him off Gab, because if Trump gets back on those social platforms, he will have an additional line of communication with his base to direct him elsewhere.
Because I do think, you know, as a good leader, he does listen to the advice and input of those around him.
And I understand why he'd be more inclined to trust family, to trust blood.
But I think in the issue of ideology, and I think in the issue in terms of what his mandate was, I think Kushner is very far removed from his base and from what Trump's own views are on many matters.
tom pappert
I think we saw this last year.
It was Trump's first event after the COVID lockdowns, and it was down in Oklahoma.
And we sent people down there to watch it and to cover it in person.
I didn't go because I didn't want to deal with masks and temperature checks and all
the stuff that you New Yorkers have had to deal with.
But it was fascinating because at the beginning of the speech, Trump, he already lost the
crowd because it's all, oh, we did criminal justice reform.
We did this. We did that. Meanwhile, there's riots happening around the country.
People don't want to hear about that.
And Trump just kept talking, it seemed.
He went totally off script and just kept talking until he had the crowd Back on his side.
And of course there's no rallies planned.
He does the occasional impromptu event right now.
There's no social media feedback like you said.
And let's expand on that in the next segment.
Let's talk about some of the accusations that have been made from Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Papert here with Gavin Wax.
He's the president of the New York Young Republicans.
And we were discussing his article that is up on AM Greatness, the 800-pound gorilla in Trump's inner circle.
Spoiler alert, the gorilla's name is Jared Kushner and all of the people connected to him.
But we just left off talking about why Trump is making some of these bad endorsements.
And I think you're right. He's not getting any feedback from his actual voters, from his actual supporters.
And as I said, I've seen this in rallies where he'll start off doing a speech that sounds like Jared Kushner wrote it, And eventually he goes off script to get the audience back on his side.
And then he kind of course corrects after that, realizes what the voters actually want him to do and want him to say.
And so one of the deeply disturbing things that we reported in National File is something that Andrew Torbis said about the reason why Trump is not on Gab, Parler, Telegram, any of these alternate outlets.
Could you expand on that a little bit for us?
gavin wax
Well, to my understanding, it's completely in terms of Jared Kushner keeping him off of it.
I mean, I think Kushner, Ivanka, and that whole crew are the biggest influence keeping him away from those platforms.
I also think that there is an angle here that they want to create maybe a new platform to
potentially grift off of.
Obviously, they control WinRed, they control that data, they control that fundraising stream.
I think the next big move could be a potential tech platform where Trump could be based off
of.
Not necessarily 100% a bad thing, but not exactly the best.
If I was advising Trump, I would tell him to be on every platform.
He should have been on every platform years ago as a backup, and then those platforms
probably could have grown much more substantially as a result of that.
So that's probably one of the biggest issues.
But also before the break, you mentioned the Oklahoma rally and you mentioned how he was
I mean, I think a lot of people forget that this happened, and I think you could probably look to some of the failings of his campaign as far back as Oklahoma, with the change in messaging, the change in energy, the change in direction.
I fully believe that had he invoked the Insurrection Act and really came down on On the violence over the summer, the lawlessness, the anarchy, and had he shown really some strength on that matter rather than just completely leaving it up to the states or some subsidiary agency, he probably could have won this election.
I think you see the biggest losses he suffered was from his white working class base.
Had he continued to grow that base, and he probably could have also have grown with Hispanic males because they appeal to many of the same underlining factors, He probably could have won.
He didn't necessarily need the suburban wine moms.
He didn't necessarily need all the 65-plus elderly whites.
He just needed to really solidify his already existing base, much of which is not really tapped by the GOP, many of which are not really regular voters.
That was the strategy that won him in 2016, not the supposed digital strategy or the digital genius of Jared Kushner and Parscale.
tom pappert
And so that brings us back to kind of personnel as policy.
You cannot achieve your goals without having the right people around you.
And there was a report we covered in National File a month or so ago where It was Politico reporting this originally, and they said that Trump had a meeting with Barr, Bill Barr, the attorney general who did nothing but breathe oxygen and take up space and I guess occasionally play the bagpipes.
He had a meeting with him and General Milley, the top general in the United States at the time, and he said that he wanted to invoke the Insurrection Act.
He wanted to come down hard on these people and restore peace and law and order on America's streets.
And the two said, no, I will not do that, Mr.
President. Barr said, I won't say it's legal.
Milley said, I won't authorize the troops to do that.
And as a result, like you said, we had months.
We had the summer of hell where day after day after day, if you lived in a city with more than, say, 50,000 people, you saw Black Lives Matter riots right out your window, up close and personal.
I know I did. Day in and day out.
I mean, there were days when I was leaving the studio late at night and I was in fear for my life.
In the city of Wichita, Kansas, I can only imagine how bad it got in some of these other places.
So let's go back to that and talk about, you know, it was all of the administration.
Was it just because Trump could not find good people or was it a nefarious force within the administration to help these people get jobs?
gavin wax
Both. And I think once you start to create a culture where there's insubordination, where people can simply refuse to follow the president's orders, it just creates this environment where he's kind of powerless.
And I understand why they may have been scared to really fire a lot of these people.
And I think a lot of them probably would have been fired in the second term.
That's why I go back to what I said earlier.
The second term would have been so critical in fixing many of these mistakes.
A lot of these mistakes probably could have been attributed just to his lack of political knowledge, the lack of how D.C. worked.
All that was a learning curve that he was slowly starting to grasp and get better at.
But I also think, you know, because he had so much turnover in his administration, there was just generally a fear of just firing more people, burning more bridges, having more of a press storm, more distractions, none of which would have happened had many of these appointees been solid ideologically from the start.
And the problem is that all administrations are going to face this, so you can't really fault Trump too much.
I mean, even someone like Sessions, he had his pros, he had his cons.
Sometimes people are better in the legislature, some people are not as effective as executive officers.
There's a lot of different variables here.
Not all of it is necessarily ideological.
Not all of it is necessarily nefarious.
But it's just been a problem.
And you can also tie it back to the RNC. Really what the GOP is supposed to be doing is helping this administration, helping this transition, and helping them find key staff.
The problem is the RNC people are total trash, and they're just not ideologically in line with this new movement.
They're a few cycles behind where the grassroots is.
And the people that they staffed it with were basically just neoliberals.
So there was a lot of problems, some of which was outside of Trump's scope, out of his hands, that we can't fault him too much for.
I think in many circumstances, he did the best with what he had, fighting an uphill battle, fighting a bureaucracy, and fighting an established D.C. status class that was fully against what he wanted to do.
But that's why he should have been more aggressive.
He probably, if he had better advisors, he probably would have made tougher calls and gone nuclear in some of these incidences, like the one you mentioned with Barr.
And Barr definitely was pretty useless in the grand scheme of things.
That was a position that, the Attorney General position, that really was never properly staffed and really held back the administration.
So I think Kushner is part of this, but I think there's a lot of other different factors.
There was a lot of different, you know, players involved.
I mean, obviously there was the Bannonites.
There was the Reince Priebus faction in the beginning who actually teamed up together to supposedly try to keep Kushner out and they failed at that.
Kushner actually maneuvered pretty well politically behind the scenes in the administration to get into the position he was in.
So there was a lot of things going on and overall it just It just didn't work out for the best because had there been a second term, a lot of these things could have been edged out and softened, but because they failed to secure that second term, it was death by a million cuts.
That's basically what happened to Trump.
tom pappert
You know, Gavin, I don't know if you're single, but if you are, you need to track down that Tiffany Trump and then maybe we can have you be the new son-in-law who takes control.
A joke, of course. Gavin, where can folks find you online?
You're doing great work with the New York Young Republicans.
Tell folks a little bit about that.
How can they find you? Absolutely.
gavin wax
Well, I will say that if Ivanka married Tom Brady, I think as Ryan Gerdusky says, we never would have been here.
But anyway, as far as where you can follow me, it's at Gavin Wax, G-A-V-I-N-W-A-X. That's Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, whatever.
And you can follow the New York Young Republican Club, oldest, largest, most prestigious in the nation.
We're fighting for conservatism and American values in the belly of the beast in New York City at NYYRC, www.nyyrc.com.
tom pappert
Gavin Wax, thank you so much for joining us.
Phenomenal wealth of information.
I highly recommend folks check you out.
You've got a podcast now as well.
And it's really refreshing to see people like you having their voice amplified as we enter this post-Trump era.
Welcome back. I am Tom Pappert, here guest hosting today on The War Room.
Oh, and we'll be back tomorrow, for my understanding.
Our guest for the remainder of this March 15th broadcast is Mark Sidney.
He is the co-founder of spreely.com.
It is a pro-free speech social media website.
Highly recommend it.
We're actually having a lot of fun on there with National File, and really, for me, it's
Gab, Spreely, and then the other ones.
I still have to log into Twitter.
I still have to post our articles there.
I still have to log into Facebook.
I still have to post our articles there.
But I just, there's no fun there anymore.
There's no interesting conversations being had.
It is 100% leftist claptrap all day, every day, and it is tiring.
So Mark, I'm glad you could make it.
Thank you for coming back on.
I specifically wanted to have you on to talk about some of the We're good to go.
It turns out, it looks like it's the same exact group of individuals who are behind the so-called GabHack, where they got all the public posts on the website, which again, if you post something publicly, why is it a big win if you screenshot that and save it?
I don't understand. They also got a whopping 7.4 megabytes of messages shared between users.
Again, are you kidding me?
What is that? Like a bunch of LOLs and the occasional emoji?
But this was turned into a massive embarrassment in the left-wing mainstream media.
I don't think that Gab users actually cared, just like I don't think Parler users actually cared.
It wasn't like anything sensitive actually got out.
What is the difference between a small startup like Gab or like Spreely or even Parler where they've got some big money behind them and these big institutional websites like Facebook and Twitter where the Facebook HR department, the human resources, they could destroy a small lake full of fish with all their green hair dye?
mark sidney
I think that it's a problem of perception because if you work at Facebook, you've got so much data on each individual that if that got out into the public, it could actually cause a serious problem because they've got more information on you than you know of and likely than most people at Facebook are aware of.
So they likely perceive that, well, if we have all this info, everyone else is collecting all this info.
So I think it's kind of their guilt shining through.
I thought we were going to talk about the 600 million users who had their passwords stored in unencrypted plain text all the way back in 2019, a mere two years ago.
No, that was Facebook, actually, that had 600 million users' passwords stored in text.
But don't worry, it was on their servers.
No one could touch it. But GAAP stuff's on their servers, and they were able to touch it.
There's always black hat hackers or white hat hackers.
They're always going to be out to get people.
tom pappert
It's a lot easier for the companies that work with the intel agencies and have been, you know, building security into their platforms for the last 15 years, have a trillion dollar market cap to Well, that's what's interesting. You were telling me that.
I mean, you don't collect data.
You're not trying to do like Facebook and sell everybody's information to advertisers.
And you were telling me off air that your website is so secure that you, if you wanted to, the co-founder of the website, could not even get your users' passwords.
Tell us about that. I mean, that's good security.
mark sidney
Well, I don't want to brag that we have the formal security.
I don't know that that's even true.
But we don't collect information on people, so we're not hyper-focused on it.
Of course, now someone's going to go out and headhunt us, right?
But there's nothing to be had.
So it's not like I could go in and look at your password and find out what it was and then use it for something else.
As far as the Gab hack goes, it was obviously coordinated.
Everything about Gab in the media is this alt-right-wing conspiracy, which Nowadays just means the Constitution.
If you're for the First Amendment, the right to speak freely, you're a right-wing extremist.
If you believe in the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, right-wing extremist.
Fourth Amendment, securing a person's papers and effects, right-wing extremist.
I think we can tell where this is going, and I bet everyone's seen the meme online already that says, when is the last time in history that the people wearing the books turned out to be the good guys at the end of the game?
And the answer is never.
And we're not the ones burning the books.
It's pretty much that simple.
tom pappert
Well, and so one thing that I think, I mean, that's absolutely right.
I mean, it's a digital book burning, and in some cases, it's a real book burning.
In Seattle, I guess they had a come burn your racist Dr.
Seuss children's books event.
I don't know how many people actually went to go burn their books in public, but I assume there were at least a few people Left wing Antifa types.
It was advertised on Craigslist of all places.
So the digital book burning and the real life book burning is absolutely real.
And I think that is the real reason why they hate Spreely and they hate Gab and they hate Parler so much because you don't collect data.
You don't turn over your information to the FBI so they can go arrest anybody who Who broke wind in the Capitol a month or two ago.
You guys just don't have that capability because you're not interested in it.
And I think that's also why there's been such a mass exodus to these alt-tech platforms.
I mean, talk about that.
What is the... I mean, you're small, you're a startup, but what is the difference in culture?
What would you imagine it to be between a site like Gab or Spreely and a megalithic platform like Facebook or Twitter?
mark sidney
Well... The big platforms have turned into speech police, and it used to be covert and almost clandestine, where people like Tom and I would know, because we publish articles, we look at the analytics, but the average user would just go on there, they'd browse their feed, they wouldn't really be sure, am I getting more pages, am I getting more of my family?
They wouldn't really analyze it.
But once they started taking President Trump, the President of the United States, they decided, we're not going to let him speak on the internet anymore.
And once that happened, everyone woke up.
I think people were aware of big tech censorship because they weren't seeing the content they saw before.
They heard people like Tom, myself and others, Torba griping about it.
But they never experienced it, never saw it firsthand.
And then people said, well, wait, if you let this go on, they'll do it to Trump.
And everyone laughed and said, yeah, they're going to shut down the president of the United States.
Lo and behold, you couldn't find Donald Trump's statements when he issues them now.
It's not that he just doesn't have a presence on a platform.
When he issues a statement, it takes me 20 minutes just to find the text.
I mean, they've literally done what they did to Alex, to the President of the United States.
It's just out of control.
So on the mainstream platforms, you're going to see whatever they want you to see.
You're going to see the narrative. I've been getting a lot of suggested posts on my Facebook feed.
From people promoting how great getting the vaccine was.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't know much about vaccines, but anything the government gets done in six or nine months, I'm a little skeptical of, especially when they say there haven't been human trials.
Whatever. It's like turning on a network television show.
You're going to get the establishment line.
When you go on Gab or Spreely, you're going to get the experience that you want.
I have no interest in telling you what to think.
If you have left of center views, find a bunch of friends who are left of center and pages and like them and you guys can have your group and you can try to change people's minds.
We just want to be an arena of ideas where everyone is welcome.
This never used to be controversial.
I don't know how we got to a point where saying we're going to allow legal speech to proliferate on our platform and then all of a sudden you're the bad guy?
tom pappert
How did we get here? There's something to be said that that's really what it is.
And I used to say they don't like that we're using their tools better than them because they built Facebook for them, for the leftists.
And when a bunch of conservatives like you, like me, like Alex Jones, like Donald Trump...
All came and started using the platforms way better than the left ever could.
Well, they couldn't because our ideas are better, frankly.
They couldn't have that.
They had to purge us because if you can't win on the merit of your ideas, well, then just ban your opponent from speaking and call it a victory by default.
I mean, I think that's really what it comes down to.
Don't go away. When we come back, I want to talk more to Mark about the situation of big tech and alt tech.
Welcome back to The War Room.
I'm Tom Pappert, editor-in-chief of NationalFile.com, here with Mark Sidney, who's the co-founder of Spreely, a free speech social media website.
They still do exist, all three of them, I believe, maybe four, depending on what you consider telegrams.
And Mark, we were talking in the last segment about the kind of cultural differences that you might expect between one of the alt tech sites like Gab or Spreely.
I prefer to call them new tech because they're not alternative, they're new.
Versus the big tech sites, Facebook and Twitter.
And in the break, you sent me something that I think is perhaps the most glaring example, and it's a woman by the name of Carol Davidson.
She was a Barack Obama campaign official.
She worked in the media end and the data analytics end, and she says that Facebook gave her access to data that they would not have given to anybody else because they wanted Obama to win.
Here's a quote from her.
They came in the office days following the election recruiting and were very candid that
they allowed us to do things they wouldn't have allowed someone else to do because they
were on our side.
They used the social graph, API, all these techno jargon terms, basically everything
that the evil Cambridge Analytica did, they did, and they did it with Facebook's blessing.
So talk some more about this and explain what type of insanity that is.
That's not a story you're going to read about Gab or Spreeley, I don't think.
unidentified
Bye.
mark sidney
No, I don't think so.
So Carol Davidson, from my understanding, worked for the Obama campaign in the data crunching section and she was able to harvest the entire social graph.
My understanding of what the social graph is, is everything that Facebook knows.
You know, every piece of information they have on every user.
So they were able to build a complete psychological profile on every single voter and then figure out how to best exploit that.
to get the most number of votes and influence an election.
Now compare that and Facebook knew they didn't give it to her but they said the story that's told is that they knew and gave her a little don't sweat it we know but it's okay we're on the same team here.
So compare that with some kids I assume they're kids uh whomever it was that decided to Steal some tokens and find out who was an investor in Gab and what they're going to do with that information versus what a political party harvesting all the information from a social network to use to influence our society.
So the scale of the events are just enormous.
We talked about the password breaches before, and I think it's a little ridiculous to have passwords in unencrypted text files, but I'm not a security expert.
And I'll cut Facebook tons of slack.
I just want the same standard to be applied to all.
Even if our standard is going to be the one that's applied to the 15-year-old trillion-dollar company, that's fine.
But when you see articles about what happened at the Capitol, which I condemn and No one wants to see windows broken at the Capitol and a bunch of people storm in there.
I think it's inappropriate.
But when you look at articles about it, they'll show clips from things that were said on Gab and things that were said on Parler.
And they'll say, look what they're using this platform for.
It's terrible. And then they'll show a tweet with the same type of content, except they won't tell you that Twitter is bad for fomenting it.
They'll say, look at what these crazy people are saying.
And they'll do the same for Facebook.
And I think there was a study that recently came out that showed that 97% of the activity of people talking about the sixth took place on Facebook, which would stand to reason because you're not allowed to be anywhere else.
Look what happened when Rebecca Mercer and John Matz and Dan Bongino got Parler up and going to 20 million users by leveraging their contacts and not in a bad way.
I'm envious of them.
It's great what they did. But we learned real quickly that Just scaling and having people want your product.
They tell us compete. This is a private company.
Compete. The market will sort it out.
Just build your own. Build your own. Right. So they built their own, and they had a billionaire backer, which is awesome.
You would think if we're going to have a platform succeed that would allow freedom of expression, it would probably need something like that.
But then they hit the real wall, which was the oligopoly that Controls the app stores.
And I think that's the real juggernaut of our time now is that we need either a decision from a court that says that they can't discriminate and curate which apps outside of certain very strict parameters such as protecting minors from harm, legal activity, stuff like that.
Or we need someone to develop a phone That is open source and allows people to upload whatever apps they choose.
Because as long as the majority of the people, the vast majority of the people, have either a Google or an Apple operating system on their phone, and the App Store is the gatekeeper for what they're allowed to put on there, they've kind of got the market locked down.
I don't think people will go back to using Facebook.
I used to be on Facebook all the time.
I barely even log in anymore.
I don't have the apps on my phone.
I'm just not interested in using it anymore.
So I don't think it's going to help.
It may prop them up a little bit, but in the long run, people will just find other ways to communicate.
We're social beings, and maybe the good thing that'll come out of all of this is that social media will go away, and we'll actually start talking to each other once again.
tom pappert
Says the owner of a social media website.
Well, you know, you hit on something important there.
unidentified
Same as you, Tom. You just want what's best for you.
mark sidney
It is true.
tom pappert
Talk about that.
All of the big tech people don't let their kids have iPads, don't let their kids have phones, don't let their kids go on social media.
Meanwhile, they want you to put your kids on there.
Obviously, you're not Mark Zuckerberg.
You're not evil, for one.
I know your kids are young, but what is your plan?
Are they going to all have iPads and Instagram accounts by the time they're 12th?
mark sidney
Instagram accounts, no.
I would be lying if I said my kids don't get screen time every day, but I bet my daughter could kick your butt when it came to geography and wildlife.
Honestly, I wish they didn't use the technology at all, but it's just a reality of the way things are.
What's important is that we maintain freedom of expression online.
If our kids grow up thinking that it's normal for you to have to be six feet apart from your friend, that you have to cover your face, you can't shake hands, all these other weird social experiments they're doing to us, and they won't even know the internet and time.
You probably don't remember getting AOL discs, literal CD-ROMs in the mail for a free trial for your dial-up modem.
But back then, the internet was the Wild West.
And only up until pretty much when Trump won, it still was the Wild West.
But these kids nowadays are growing up in this internet that has a superstructure over it that has Facebook, Twitter, Google, maybe a handful of others that break the surface now and again.
But they're the gatekeepers for what content gets seen.
The censorship is just out of control.
And it's clear it's going to lead to a social credit score.
We're already... Pretty much there.
We're seeing people who are indicted for events at the Capitol losing their banking before they're even convicted of a crime.
So it's real scary where it's heading.
The whole reason we started this was because we don't want our kids to grow up in a TICOM hellscape.
I'd like to make money.
I haven't made any money on Spree League.
I've been doing this because humanity needs a solution.
I'm not the brightest guy.
I wish someone way smarter and with way more money did it.
And in fact, they did and they had success and then they got squashed.
So either someone needs to build a phone with an operating system that's favorable, that allows people to upload anything that's legal, that helps people connect, or the government needs to step in, good luck, and tell these app stores that you can't just kick people off because they're competitors with your billion-dollar buddies.
tom pappert
Well, you know, it's funny because if these app stores even just held a solid standard, I mean, Twitter has not just child porn, which they have, but they have regular porn and they allow it.
Meanwhile, I think it was Minds a few years ago had their app deleted from the app store because they had users who were posting pornography and not clicking it as explicit.
And so therefore they lose an app.
Meanwhile, Twitter has tons and tons of porn.
I mean, it's like a whole part of Twitter.
Not that I know. I know because Obama happens to follow a gay porn account on Twitter.
I mean, absolutely baffling.
And of course, Facebook is the number one.
And you know, it's probably, as you would say, by virtue of how many people they have
on their number one place, you that pedophiles go to find and trade their sickening videos.
So if these platforms were held to the same standard as mines and gab and parlor and and
others, then they would not be allowed on the App Store either.
Mark, thank you so much for joining us.
It's always good to get a perspective of somebody who kind of knows what it's like to be on the inside of these startup companies.
Tell folks about Spreely very quickly.
Tell folks where they can find you.
mark sidney
All right, Spreely.com, FundingFreeSpeech.com.
You go to Infowars store, buy some products.
Also, Mike Lindell has been canceled.
You go over to MyPillow and use the code SPREELY, S-P-R-E-E-L-Y, get up to 66% off.
Basically, that'll help fund us and, you know, let us upgrade our servers, add more features, and do all the things that people want.
You know, we're funding this out of pocket because humanity needs it.
And like Alex says, they're trying to dry up our ammo.
And, uh, We need your help.
You know, chip in.
Help Tom, help Alex.
tom pappert
Mark Sidney, screely.com, infowarsstore.com.
Thank you so much for coming on. Stay classy, Info Warriors.
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