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unidentified
Decoding enemy transmissions so you get the truth.
It's The War Room with Owen Schroer.
Watch the live stream at infowars.com forward slash show.
We will now name five breakfast cereals.
Happy brunch!
I'm fruitless! Many weeks!
I'm raising bread! I'm fruitless!
Okay, okay, I'm done.
Was that five? Well, let's see.
Captain Crouch. Oh, I can't remember another one, jeez.
Five minutes later.
What's the name of that damn cereal?
Zephod Beeble. Bross and Smacks?
No, no, no. Funny Flakes?
No, no, that's not it.
You have the frog on the box.
Big frogs.
alex jones
Actors 8. Globals.
unidentified
George Soros.
All right, hold on, stay on track, Alex.
Breakfast cereal, let's see here.
Dig on the frog.
That's it.
alex jones
Now, honey smash.
unidentified
That doesn't mean I don't want to go to court.
owen shroyer
That's the name of that damn cereal.
unidentified
Honey Smash. What is Honey Smash?
alex jones
That's the fifth one. I forgot. You gave...
You were beating my ass. I couldn't remember the fifth one.
unidentified
Oh, okay. So he just became confirmed now.
Hell yes....with Owen Schreuer.
Watch the live stream at infowars.com forward slash show.
owen shroyer
All right. I think we got everything ready.
We have everything ready, guys? All right.
So I'm back in studio.
Welcome to the War Room. It is the last Friday of December, so that means it's the Veterans Call-In Special.
Let Freedom ring, literally, and give us a call here on the War Room for the entire three hours.
We'll have phone lines open, and I've forgotten my own phone number being away for so long, and it's not on the board, so we'll go ahead and just tease and give that phone number out later.
Ah, look at that.
The crew puts it on screen. 1-888-201-2244.
And we've got special guests that are going to be joining us on certain topics.
And my guest in studio is Christopher Nywim.
He's been on before.
Glad to have him in studio again today.
And unfortunately, you missed the opening video there with Alex Jones.
But it's been quite a year, you know, for Alex.
He gets censored off the internet.
You know, he doesn't get invited to any of these hearings when they talk about the social media censorship, so it's like he doesn't exist.
And of course, I'm not sure if it was official or not, but Marco Rubio may have invited him to a bathhouse party.
christopher neiweem
He may have. Did they invite disruptors?
owen shroyer
We can't confirm or deny that.
That's true. But we know that it may have happened.
That's true. And so that's what we get here today.
So, we got a lot of topics.
Now, you brought some things to our attention you want to talk about today because you're working on some things in D.C. Veteran VA reform.
We stopped the fatal dog experiments that they were doing.
And then, of course, school security where in Parkland, Florida, they had the big school shooting and they voted, I think it was 13 to 1, to train and arm teachers.
So those are some topics that you want to talk about today.
christopher neiweem
Absolutely. VA reform is always ongoing.
There's so many different issues in terms of the dog testing.
We think that may be getting fired up again.
We don't even know if that's necessarily legal.
owen shroyer
Like in the dark of night, maybe bring it back?
christopher neiweem
Well, it's one of those things where the law gets passed, but there's regulations, and there was something where the VA secretary can have waivers to continue those...
Thank you.
You know, Andy Pollack has just been such a national leader and really going around an issue that I think the president's been focused on this.
This idea of having any kind of armed security in a school has been such a pushback of concern over the years.
But yet now we're really looking at this in reverse as if so we protect government building.
We protect the military.
Banks, celebrities. Banks, celebrities.
Why Mark Zuckerberg?
Why aren't we – and so there's a lot of rules and regs to this.
This isn't just like any kind of like cowboy thing.
The Guardian program, which I hope we'll be getting into with Mr.
Pollack, it's a – we're really behind this and we're looking forward to talking about it.
And then the third issue is – Veteran entrepreneurs, these are business owners that serve the VA, and there's just been some issues with them being mistreated with their contracts not paid, and we really think a lot of the bureaucrats, the career bureaucrats, have been causing problems there.
owen shroyer
And we'll also get into the story that really rubbed me the wrong way, which I've still not seen one retraction, and that's all mainstream news saying Trump did not visit the troops on Christmas.
I have not seen one retraction from that fake news story.
So all that and more and your calls.
It's a veterans call-in show this Friday.
alex jones
We'll be right back. The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else, like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why, as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
Of InfoWars. So please, spread the links.
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We're all in each other's hands.
God bless you all and thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Woo!
I'm back.
owen shroyer
Did you miss me?
unidentified
I know the crew missed me so much.
No, actually the rumors were they kind of were trying to squeeze me out.
owen shroyer
But I'm back. They can't keep me down forever.
unidentified
Merry Christmas. I hope everybody had a great Christmas.
owen shroyer
As we are back from the Christmas season, and the news never stops though, does it Chris?
It never stops. Christopher Nyween, my guest in studio, does a lot of great work in D.C. for the veterans.
He's a veteran himself. He's with us in studio for three hours.
We're going to be taking calls from veterans for three hours, and we're going to have some special guests joining us on some certain topics.
Plus, we've got news, some funny videos.
You know, I got this video, Chris, Well, we'll rerun the Alex Jones video because he didn't get to see it.
But then there's some other crazy videos that are just so laughable.
You've got CNN saying Trump is the Grinch.
Have you seen that one? I've not.
Oh, it's wonderful.
I laugh so hard every time.
And then you've got, I don't even know, it's funny but it's really kind of sad at the same time.
A transgender person going nuts inside, I guess it's a convenience store or a GameStop or something, and it just is like, whoa.
And then you've got a $2 million bathroom that was investigated by John Stossel that we'll talk about too, but All kinds of different issues.
I do want to dedicate today's broadcast and maybe get a word from you on this to Richard Overton, who died yesterday.
He was the oldest living veteran at 112.
I didn't even realize he lived in Austin.
In Austin, I realized, yeah. You know, I feel like such an idiot today, honestly.
I feel like such an idiot today that I never went to interview this guy.
And Leanne McAdoo went and did it, I guess, a couple years ago.
And I didn't even realize he was in Austin.
And I would have loved to just go meet that guy.
I mean, he's into whiskey and cigars, and God, I mean, that's right up my eye.
But he's deceased today.
But, you know, Chris, it's really kind of just a generation from the past that we really don't see much of anymore.
I mean, men were different then.
Women were different then. People can say for better or for worse.
But that's just a generation that we just don't get their perspective enough these days, you know?
christopher neiweem
I think that that generation, the consequences of war were more immediately felt, right?
So, you know, the average citizen really felt the impact of war.
It was more, battle lines were more clear in terms of culture.
And I think now we're in an age, I think, post 9-11 where the warfare has changed, the foreign policy has changed.
Now we're seeing that too with, I mean, it's, and again, getting back to the politics of it, it's almost kind of crazy.
The only way to make an anti-war decision The liberal pro-war is to remove troops from a country when President Trump does it.
Then all of a sudden, now they're, why are we leaving these war-torn countries they never wanted to be in?
So that's kind of a political irony.
owen shroyer
Well, let's actually stay with that for a second.
And you can guys go ahead and roll Richard here, the old interview with Leanne as B-roll.
There he is right there, the legend.
It's funny you say that because you're so right.
And it actually ties into the fake news where they say Trump never visited the troops on Christmas, even though he did.
And then they never retracted saying that.
But you're 100% right, right?
So Trump says, let's pull the troops out of Syria.
And then all of a sudden, you've got neocons in the Republican Party, which, to no one's surprise, wanted to stay overseas.
But when it's the Democrats doing it, that goes against everything that they claim to be, which is essentially anti-war.
We don't need to be expanding more in the Middle East.
But then when Trump says, we're going to bring them home for Christmas...
All of a sudden, like you said, they come out of the woodworks and it's, oh, we can't do that.
It's bad for the Middle East.
It's going to destabilize. It's this, it's that.
So Trump literally, by saying, I want to bring him home, which was a campaign promise, forced the left to admit one of two things.
One, they are pro-war.
Or two, they hate Trump so much, they'll abandon all logic, all reason, all morals, all foundations because they hate him that much.
christopher neiweem
I think it's the latter. I believe strongly it's the latter where they're so opposed and they're so entitled to power and entitled to control that when he goes in a certain direction, there's that just vicious opposition.
My theory is I think that they don't like the style.
The substance is something that they debate back and forth, but, you know, The president campaigned on a lot of these things, and it's almost kind of unusual to hear Democrats saying, well, you know, that's just a campaign promise.
The wall, for example, the wall, military, those were campaign promises.
So for him to be doing exactly what he delivered on, it's unusual that they're surprised.
And I also think that the Trump presidency, if anything, it really strengthens the Constitution because the checks and balances, they do work.
I mean, you know, There's friction with the courts and these things, but he has...
I haven't seen a president since I've been voting around 2000 that's really just kind of come in there and just embodied the agenda and doesn't really kind of peel off when the pressures from these constituencies come in.
owen shroyer
Well, and I think Obama, at least in my lifetime, I mean, I'm 29, I'm sure obviously it happened in the past, I think back to FDR and others, but Obama kind of, when Obama got into the White House in D.C., there was a bit of an Obamanizing, let's say, of D.C., right?
There was kind of, you kind of felt, you know, the swag and like, oh, it was kind of cool to be the trendy liberal now.
People are prancing around a little bit.
But with Trump, it's like a totally different story.
Like, the embodiment of who Trump is, like, you don't have a choice, right?
Like, people don't want to be in the Trump DC, but they can't avoid it.
Trump's talked about 24-7 on TV. He's actually working 24-7.
They can't help but have to cover him all the time.
So it's like he has forced DC to be Trump, basically.
Right. And like you said, though, it's not necessarily because there are the checks and balances and everything.
It's that he's constantly in the news, he's constantly working, and it just gets under their skin.
christopher neiweem
Right. I think the disruptors, Washington, D.C. doesn't like disruptors.
They don't like people that are changing things.
You know, we've seen that with President Trump.
owen shroyer
We've seen that with Mr. Jones. Unless they're burning cars and stuff at the Women's March.
christopher neiweem
Right, or in SIFA where you're smashing windows at McDonald's in Washington, D.C. because you didn't win the election.
And I saw a lot of that firsthand because I was in town for the elections.
But it is a disrupting effect.
It is an interesting culture. I mean, the Trump Hotel is a place where there's a lot of, you know, politicos hang out.
owen shroyer
Hold on, hold on. I would say that because I was in D.C. a couple weeks ago.
Trump International D.C. has become the hotbed of just politicos.
christopher neiweem
Well, it has.
It's fun. It's a great time.
The liberal reporters, there are those reporters where you'll wake up and there's a story about you.
Your name is Jim Smith.
You show up there. Jim Smith, employee at...
X scene at Trump Hotel.
And it's, I mean, so reporters just track every single fly that's on the wall there because there's an obsession and they're concerned about all the undue influence that could be.
And it's like, so in other words, Clinton Foundation, Clinton Dynasty, all that, that's never been a problem.
But all of a sudden now, so it's, they don't know what to do.
We saw that with the reports about Christmas visitation.
I mean, it's almost like they just can't sit back and develop a new sort of message aside from we don't like President Trump.
He's terrible. He's doing so much damage to the country.
And I still haven't even seen the damage.
I think that's style.
It's style. It's really style.
owen shroyer
And I'm glad you said that because I didn't get too political over Christmas break.
It was actually nice. I didn't get too political, but I was talking to my grandma for a minute, and she's really elderly, but she's still with it.
And, I mean, she's conservative or whatever, likes Trump's policies, but she was really upset she didn't like his style.
She didn't like his approach.
And, you know, I was just talking to her, I was like, well, you know, Grandma, I can understand that.
You know, he's brash. You know, he's brazen.
There's no doubt. I understand how that could rub you the wrong way.
But... When I told her, I was like, but you have to understand, that's just his style as a businessman.
That's how he approached business.
He was very successful using that approach.
He wrote books about it. That's how he's approaching the presidency.
So all he's really doing is taking his success in the business world with his approach to it and applying that to what he's learned being in the political world in D.C. and being the president.
And it's just working.
christopher neiweem
Right.
owen shroyer
And so once I kind of said that to her, it kind of opened her eyes for a second.
She's like, well, OK, you know, actually, that makes sense.
And I think there's so many instances like that, more so for conservatives, because they don't have this this wall of hate that they build like like a leftist in America.
But for conservatives, there's so many things where they feel and that's why Trump's popularity continues to increase.
Like at the beginning, you know, a lot of people listen to Fox News to get their political news and a lot of people on Fox News didn't like Trump in the beginning.
So they didn't like Trump in the beginning.
But then as Trump started to make more sense to them, as they started to see how his tactics were working, now all of a sudden they, okay, I can support Trump.
Maybe I don't like the tweets, but wow, they seem to work to get policy.
christopher neiweem
We finally won a presidential election after losing and losing for a while.
owen shroyer
Well, and that's nice too. And he's fulfilling promises.
So we're going to talk about all that and we're going to open up the phone lines and get our, we'll tell you the times of our special guest coming up here soon.
Don't go anywhere. This is The War Room.
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alex jones
The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
Of InfoWars. So please, spread the links.
InfoWars.com, NewsWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
Because if you don't spread the articles and the videos, no one else will.
We're all in each other's hands.
God bless you all and thank you.
owen shroyer
It's the veterans call-in special, the last Friday of every month.
Chris Nyweam is my guest in studio, flying out to Austin here, the InfoWars World Headquarters.
And we've already got the phone lines open.
1-888-201-2244.
We're taking calls from veterans today.
And we're talking about all kinds of different issues.
But let's stay on that topic before we go to the phone lines here.
And kind of apply that again to...
But let's look at two angles.
So first you have, obviously they say, Trump didn't visit the troops on Christmas.
That's just an outright lie.
Total fake news. But then you also have, over the weekend, the media was using, it's the same story.
They used the story about the girl dying in the care of Border Patrol or whatever it was.
And they took a video to claim how bad Border Patrol was from 2011 of Border Patrol kicking over water jugs, throwing fresh water away, saying, oh, look how much they hate the people coming here.
It was from 2011.
So just like the cage picture that they tried to put on Trump, they take this video, which, again, you can't really put it on Obama.
I mean, it happened in his years, but it's not like he's the one telling him to throw water jugs away.
Nobody's reporting that. But that's what they do to Trump.
So it's this same thing where they just hate Trump so much.
And then you were talking about the virtue signaling thing, because I think that's what it is at the end of the day.
I think because they believe all the nonsense about Trump and his supporters, that they feel if we go against Trump, that's the biggest virtue signal that you can do.
christopher neiweem
It is. And I found a lot of people out there, even Democrats, that they like a lot of the things the president's doing.
And I think here's a key, too.
There's a lot of people that respect certain issues that the president's working on or that did support the president, but they're not, quote, Trump supporters.
They're not, quote, Trump-lickin, as you have this new political reference, which is kind of interesting.
They're just supporting – they support certain issues.
So the virtue signaling left tends to do this thing where it's, oh, you Trump – and so they just can't fathom free speech on the individual level.
I think that's where their malfunction is, and I think until they fix that, they're going to continue to struggle for footing on how to deal with a large segment of the country.
Many of them are Democrats that are just – they felt left out.
They still haven't figured that out yet.
There are a few people you've totally forgotten about and have excluded for so long, and now they're voting different ways, and their independents are crossing over.
And I think they'd be better served figuring that out than continuing to sort of virtue signal and do this sort of veiled threats and veiled insults of like, oh, well, you Trump supporters.
So because I support this issue or many people support a border solution on some level, they're sort of labeled.
And I think it's a mistake for the, you know, the virtue signaling left to continue to do that.
owen shroyer
Well, actually, I'm glad that you went down that road.
And we'll go to calls after I finish this thought.
I had this written down on a note.
It might even be stuck on the back of my thing here.
No, I don't know what happened to it. But every time I take a break from going on air every day, I can, unlike Alex, he's like wild horses can't drag him away.
I can actually go and be kind of a worldly person and separate myself from this philosophically and emotionally.
I'm still in tune.
I mean, I still know what's going on.
But like emotionally, philosophically, I can separate myself and kind of become an observer.
And so whenever I do that and I kind of step back and just observe the arena, it opens my eyes to so many different things.
And this Christmas, what I saw was, and I already knew this, but when you see it, It's like, how can Americans be so polarized, right?
How can we see basically the same thing, but see something totally different?
And this isn't like, again, I'm not being political or even inserting any politics into this.
I'm saying like, we can't even, everything's so politicized, everything's so polarized.
It's like... How can we get along?
When we can't even agree on two plus two equaling four, or if there's two genders or not, right?
Or whether we should have a border.
If we can't even agree on just things that are just like basic, substantial things, how are we going to move on?
But there's a paradox to that.
Most people don't even care.
Most people genuinely don't even care.
And so here's what jogged my mind when you were just talking.
You can go to a bar.
Any city in America. You can go to a ball game.
You can go to your kid's soccer game, basketball game, whatever.
Okay, and guess what? You're standing there, you're mingling hundreds of people.
There's conservatives next to you.
There's liberals next to you.
There's people in between next to you.
There's people that don't care anymore next to you.
So it's like everybody is already getting along.
Everybody's fine. Like, we don't hate each other.
We're not at each other's throats over politics.
But it's like as soon as politics get brought up, it's like somehow something turns on.
It triggers us like we think we're enemies or something.
It's like... Does that make any sense?
And I know that people understand this, just when I step away, I can see it.
It's like I can actually see how it's like, man, there's constant back and forth, nobody giving an inch, but really at the same time, it's like...
Everybody's kind of standing on the same ground.
christopher neiweem
I think everyone has to struggle within themselves to get away from the labeling.
It's easy to do it. You hear a word, Trump, Clinton, there's all these words.
And so I think if people can approach it at the individual level, it's a little bit different, especially, you know, hey, Bob, hey, Jerry, and you have a difference of opinion, but you kind of work it through.
I think when you come in with the label.
owen shroyer
It's to humanize each other. Right, right.
christopher neiweem
And I think that two examples that came up was, for example, two or three years ago, I took a survey, and the elected official running for the presidency that I had the most policy agreements with was Marco Rubio.
I took a survey, and it was like, this is your candidate.
I couldn't vote for him because of just the phoniness and all that stuff.
And I remember after some of the rifting that was going on with...
Actually, it was with him and Alex Jones.
I was in a discussion online, and I was actually kicked out of the Facebook group, Rubio Republicans, for just disagreeing with – I said that he came off as sort of dismissive, and I think it worked against him.
I got kicked out of the group.
See, that's the problem is if you can't handle criticism, then you're not going to be successful as an elected official.
The second example on this topic is during the Supreme Court protests.
I was people watching. It was people watching Glory, by the way, walking around Washington, D.C. that day.
Always. And I found two ironies.
One, the protesters, most of them were kind of in a hard-left, more feminist precinct.
They left all their water bottles on the Capitol steps.
Total garbage everywhere. Left it everywhere.
owen shroyer
Every time.
christopher neiweem
Which I felt like was very disrespectful.
And then number two, there was a gentleman with a MAGA hat who was doing an interview about Brett Kavanaugh.
And he was being interviewed.
And these two women kind of creeped up and they were listening.
And he said, look, if someone commits this crime or is that, if this happened, we need the presumption of it.
Then, yes, they should go to jail.
And the women walked away and they were like, he's sane.
But the point was they had a pre-notion of what he would or would not say.
And once they realized that they actually agreed with him a little bit, they were kind of – You still have that kind of liberal dismissiveness, but you see that there is that common ground that labels...
owen shroyer
Exactly. That's actually talking to one another and learning that we don't have to hate each other.
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owen shroyer
And it's the last Friday of December, so you know what that means.
It's the Veterans Call-In Special, and we've got a lot of veterans lined up to take Bill, Brad, and others that we're going to take.
We're going to take you shortly.
But for this segment, we're joined by a special guest, Mr.
Sir Andrew Pollack, who has done a lot of work nationwide to help school safety after the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High that obviously he had a direct impact of, so his thoughts and opinions are valuable on this.
And he's leading class right now, which is spearheading a movement to make sure that schools do have the proper safety.
In fact, it was just, I believe, last month where they voted in that school district.
I think it was 13 to 1 to train and arm teachers.
That's a good thing. Gun control is not the answer to this.
It's a pipe dream. And it's unconstitutional.
But what is smart and what is common sense is having somebody on the school grounds that is trained and knows how to use a firearm.
So we're now joined by Andrew Pollack.
Thank you for joining us so much today, sir.
unidentified
Hey, my pleasure to be on with you guys.
Andy, how are you? All right.
I'm on Lake Kissimmee in Polk County, Florida.
Beautiful county campground.
I got my camper. And with my beautiful wife, I got my dog, Sonny.
And I'm on the phone with you guys.
owen shroyer
That sounds great. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Americansforclass.org is his website.
Mr. Pollock, you had to be really, really happy when you saw that vote happen.
I believe it was 13 or 12 to 1 to train and arm teachers.
This is something that you've been fighting for for school security for a long time.
Was that relieving when you saw that vote?
unidentified
Yeah. What we did, though, in Florida, that really meant a lot to me.
Three weeks after my daughter was murdered, They put a safety bill together to help secure all the schools in the state of Florida.
And I played a big role in it.
Actually, the sheriff wrote the curriculum for it.
That's Sheriff Grady Judge.
He's the sheriff. He's been a longtime sheriff in Polk County.
He wrote the curriculum to arm and train personnel at schools.
So we took it to the next level.
Which is why I'm on with you guys, and it means so much to me, to use veterans.
Okay, so a lot of that, I would say, in Polk County, where I was up here all summer, we were doing a lot of hiring.
We hired about 30, 25 to 30 percent of the new cadets were veterans.
And to me, it meant a lot to put veterans in schools, because what's better than that?
You know, these guys are already trained.
You know, with firearms, and they know what it's like to go towards gunfire when they hear it.
So we put about 30% in Polk, and it's growing within the state of Florida, this program.
It's called the Aaron Feist Guardian Program, and it's named after one of the coaches that went into the building unarmed and got murdered on that first floor.
So we're pushing forward.
I've been working with Chris, who's on the line with us, and it's something that we'd like to take national.
You know, even with that, there's a program with troops to teachers.
What's better to have a teacher that's a veteran also trained in this guardian program to protect our kids, the students, and the teachers in the schools?
christopher neiweem
No, it's great, Andy, and I think from a veteran employment standpoint, it works as well, and I know that there's medical clearance, there's background check, there's a lot of regulation here, but like you pointed out, there's come a time where we need to have that security opponent, because once an unfortunate incident like this happens,
there has to be a reaction, and the whole series of governmental failures is just It's been something that Andy's dealt with even more than anyone down there in Broward County in terms of political people that have got that mindset of the...
And I thought we could kind of start there, Andy, just to talk about that a little bit, too, in terms of this idea of the Promise Program era policies.
And it's this sort of terrible idea that's well-intended, that if you can just let youth run wild and you don't mark any other early, sometimes troubling...
You're not able to take the requisite punishment that could actually prevent firearm purchases.
I mean, it was failure city down there.
So I thought maybe, Andy, you could talk a little bit about the PROMISE program, why it was a failure, but then kind of maybe talk about the eight-point plan a little bit as well for Americans for Class and kind of the positive way we're pivoting beyond the PROMISE program.
unidentified
Chris, in different parts of the country they call it different.
It's not just called the Promise Program.
It's diversionary programs that were started when Obama was the president with Arne Duncan.
And it was to end the school-to-prison pipeline.
That's what they thought they were creating.
So in actuality, the superintendent worked for Arnie Duncan in Chicago when Arnie Duncan was the secretary of education under Obama.
So Runcie came and brought that policy to Broward County.
And what they did was they wanted to not arrest at-risk youth.
That's what they thought they were.
They thought they were doing a really good thing by not arresting.
And what happens is it creates a whole leniency culture throughout the whole district, okay, of underreporting and not reporting crimes.
So the kids never are held accountable for multiple crimes that they commit.
So they're never taught a lesson.
They don't know what it is to be responsible for something when they commit it.
So what happens is They go all through the schools, through the middle school, high school, they're selling drugs, they're committing batteries, they're robbing cell phones, no accountability.
And then all of a sudden, they get to be 18 and they graduate, they get out of the school district, and now all of a sudden they commit a crime and there's no diversionary program.
They're getting arrested. So it actually, in the big picture, creates the school-to-prison pipeline.
And I was never a political guy, Chris.
I never even got into politics until my daughter really...
Well, my first election was we voted for Trump in 2016 because I saw which way the country was heading and I had to vote.
But really was never into politics.
So I see what happens to my daughter.
She gets martyred in the school.
And I start looking into what happened.
And then I started seeing this kid committed multiple crimes.
Like he went, he threatened to shoot the school up, never arrested.
Trespassed at the school after he threatened to shoot the school up, never arrested.
Punches his mother's teeth out, doesn't get arrested.
And the list goes on and on and on and on.
Like, how does this happen?
And I start doing research and I start uncovering these policies of giving, they give the dysfunctional kids more rights than the kids like my daughter, that kids that just want to go to school and learn and have a good time.
christopher neiweem
And it's almost, yeah, and you can't really be intellectually honest for the left.
Of course, the left of the NRA caused the whole thing, and it's almost kind of like the NRA is probably the last.
I mean, there were so many governmental failures in there.
owen shroyer
Well, and I just want to talk to Andy about something that I think that the media tries to do.
Obviously, there were a lot of people affected by this tragedy that happened at the high school that day.
And there's a lot of different opinions and political values or whatever that come out of that.
But it seems to me that your story is actually the antithesis of everything the media wants us to believe, where here's an individual that was never really political.
Here's an individual that didn't really think about the politics of gun issues or anything until you experienced this tragedy firsthand.
And, you know, not to put a label on you, but you started leaning more toward what they call conservative values.
The media tries to say that the exact opposite is the case universally.
I mean, it seems to me that that's not true.
unidentified
You know what's insane?
It's crazy. So I start looking into it, right?
I do my first interview.
I actually go on Fox, and it's Chris Wallace, right?
So I hear Chris Wallace.
They actually have the earpiece.
And I hear Chris Wallace.
Interviewing the governor, who I'm friends with, Governor Scott.
And all he's talking about is gun control, right?
So by the time I get on, I go, how are they just talking about gun control when the guy at the front gate, he just left the gate open and let the guy walk in with a rifle bag?
You know what I mean?
So I was like, after I started seeing every single news station, The globalists are trying to set up a private, corporate world government that's above the law.
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And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
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We need to go back and revisit the foundations of our freedom.
Our freedoms don't consist of the things that are enumerated on a piece of paper.
It consists of the things that we're willing to fight for.
The First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, the rest of the Bill of Rights are prohibitions.
They're prohibitions against powerful organizations and individuals taking those God-given rights from us as individuals.
You better understand that because they're taking them right now.
We have seen what they want to do.
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Now they call it the UN 2030 Agenda.
They want everybody off of the rural lands.
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owen shroyer
Welcome back to The War Room.
It's the last Friday of December, so that's the Veterans Call-In Show.
I promise we're going to get to your phone calls.
I promise you.
But we've got another special guest joining us now.
We're just getting these guests on when they have the time to join us.
And now is the time for Dr. DeFranco.
unidentified
Welcome back to the War Room.
owen shroyer
Well, he's dealing with the VA, and we're trying to get these VA issues, you know, taken care of.
But, Chris, you know all too well about how the VA operates.
christopher neiweem
The VA is a very large bureaucracy.
It's the second largest federal agency.
It has a lot of statutory responsibilities, providing veterans with benefits, providing them with education benefits, health care.
It's a very large system.
They also do a lot of contract work.
And with this case that come to my attention was With Dr.
Pashain, who's a veteran, who was also contracted to work with the VA, perform software upgrades, sort of large-scale work, and it came to my attention that, you know, the VA essentially, it just doesn't treat its veteran entrepreneurs, its small businesses, the right way all the time.
And I don't know what's harder, the veteran that's not treated the right way, or the sort of...
It's an appeals process if you come into a dispute where you are just bullied, mistreated.
And I believe in this case, after looking into this, they actually kind of stole the work as well.
And it's just been, you know, the Pashain case really has been something that's concerned me and I'm going to be working on to make sure that our veteran small businesses are treated the right way.
I mean, they're really the backbone of the economy in so many ways.
And I think Dr. Pashain is going to be joining us if he's not already on the line.
Dr. Pashain, are you with us? I'm here, Chris.
unidentified
Thank you. Appreciate being on the show.
christopher neiweem
Yeah, it's good to have you on.
You know, this came to my attention a few months ago, you know, your case, and, you know, I thought we could just jump right in.
So your work, you are...
You know, performing a contract with the VA doing work to actually, I think, kind of fix some Obama-era disasters.
You know, there was a conference scandal.
If you could maybe walk us back into the sort of the ABCs of the conference scandal, what your work was designed to, you know, fix, and then, you know, what happened again with your case?
What are the specifics? Yeah, great.
unidentified
I'm glad to tell you. So, It's a pretty amazing story.
I mean, we're talking about a huge scandal at the VA in 2012, right?
They had basically been spending millions of dollars flying folks around, employees of the VA, on expensive conferences.
You know, nice airlines, nice hotels, all kinds of bonuses.
And, you know, Congress found out about this.
Enough people complained. And this is not where our American tax dollars are supposed to be spent to help veterans, not to send employees Do luxury cruises and things like this.
So Congress came down on the VA and said, look, you know, you folks need to get some control over this.
We want some accountability.
We want to know where the dollars are spent.
We want you to get, you know, some kind of formal approval of each case.
Well, they had like 12,000 cases each year for conferences, travel, all kinds of things.
It's running up about $2 billion.
That's just to go send people for training.
Well, they stepped in and said, okay, we're going to try to do what Congress said.
And it became a Charlie Fox.
I mean, it was a huge bureaucratic mess.
It was getting worse by the day.
People were getting six months behind on their training.
So doctors were essentially unqualified to see veterans because they weren't getting something specific that they were required to do for their license.
And so I got called in.
And I was happy to help.
I've always been a big supporter of the VA. I worked there for a long time trying to fix things, and I was committed to this.
So I put everything I had into it.
I used all my past research.
I used all my own technology, and I turned that thing around quick.
In six months, we had every single case accounted for.
We had work automated, and we were using my research and my software.
Well, this goes on for a little while, and they think, you know, Maybe we should just try to get this done without having to pay for it.
So one of the executives, I found the email, says, hey, we could just take this software and reverse engineer it.
Because at this point, they hadn't paid for anything.
All they had done is paid for some of my time and my team.
And I got rid of that.
I was really upset. I couldn't believe this.
This is the VA that I always supported.
I was trying to make it a better place for veterans.
And next thing you know, They send over a contract and you think, okay, that looks okay.
We responded. And by the time we signed it, they had changed the key words to this contract, the very term.
So it went from being a specific amount of work for 150 days to 12 months of unlimited software programming.
Insane. Nobody in D.C. would put up with this.
And we felt like, hey, you know, we want to cooperate, but you guys got to fix this.
And they just... We're good to go.
christopher neiweem
And Dr. Bashane, did you have to also lay off, or essentially, you had some other vets and staff working, and then so how did that, essentially, they went unpaid and you had to reduce, you had to eventually abandon the work or continue working without the pay and with this uncertainty after this initial conflict arose?
unidentified
Yeah, I appreciate that question, Chris, because, I mean, this got really painful and personal.
I had to stop paying myself for a long time.
I had to make sure the work got done, because until the VA settled the contract, we were stuck.
Meanwhile, I have to keep cutting back the pay for the guys working for me.
But the real worst part of this, the one piece that really broke me, was that I had been taking care of a veteran who was in prison for a long time.
He was in prison because he stood his ground when somebody broke into his house, and he used his personal weapon, shot the guy.
The guy died. And he went to prison.
So when he got out was the time where I was working with him and his family to get him settled in.
I brought him onto my team during this project.
I'd let the VA know, hey, I've hired this guy, and I want to make him part of my team, make it official.
They said, no, we're not going to let you hire him.
So I was having him do the back office work with me.
And soon after, they terminated my contract.
christopher neiweem
Right. And that alone is a very interesting story.
I think at some point we should even explore that background even more because the stand your ground law, that wasn't right.
So the point is you have all these people that you've empowered and you're bringing on and you're assuming the risk of being a small business trying to make the VA a better place.
And there's this contract dispute.
You know, this is the problem, is our veteran entrepreneurs are not being treated right.
And I think the encouraging thing is, I believe, Dr.
Bashane, you were able to testify in front of the Small Business Advisory Board.
I believe you mentioned that went well.
So there is some voice and some oversight that's going to be coming around full circle on this.
I don't think our veteran entrepreneurs have the voice they need.
I've worked well with the veteran service organizations over the years, the legacy ones we call Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Legion, but I think in some of these modern issues involving veteran small businesses, what we've seen, Owen, is...
They're not really doing a good job taking care of the modern vet.
Some of these older groups are more, you know, let's get along with the VA, let's get along, let's wear the hat, but let's not worry about Dr.
Pashain's issues, small businesses, you know, veterans that want to start businesses.
They're sort of just, you know, welfare promoters at this point.
owen shroyer
Well, I want to clarify something here from Dr.
Pashain, too. You said, you know, they're spending billions of dollars here at the VA just to fly people to conferences and stuff like this.
Now... My understanding of that, you're not talking about veterans.
You're talking about people that just work for the VA. These aren't actual veterans, right?
unidentified
That's absolutely right. Many of them are not veterans.
owen shroyer
So see, if I'm approaching this from a political standpoint, and I try to just use common sense and logic with this stuff, and I see the VA spending billions of dollars on non-veterans, on people that didn't serve just to fly around to fancy dinners and planes and stuff to go to quote-unquote conferences, Now you're really irking me because you have a veteran here, Dr.
Pachain, whose business relied on a contract that they were given.
They lost the contract.
Then they had to struggle with the stuff from small businesses expecting a contract they didn't get.
Meanwhile, the VA is spending billions and billions of dollars flying all these non-veterans around.
To me, that's the angle I work with here.
It's like, wait a second, we're giving billions of dollars to the VA. They're not even spending it on veterans.
christopher neiweem
And he was trying to fix the very scandal that they were trying to fix, which is auditing all their spending and having that accountability.
So Congress, and I think Congress is going to be learning a lot more about the Pashain case in the coming months, is Congress wants to fix these things, and then they've got the oversight function.
So the VA committees in the Senate and the House are going to have to take a look at this as well because we can't have veteran entrepreneurs not being paid and small businesses not being paid.
And I think part of the rub here is...
The veterans organizations are kind of like, you know, they want to make sure veterans get their disability pay and they need to continue to stay on that.
But I almost kind of feel like, and I hope I'm wrong, that they kind of want veterans to get their 10% disability to be, you know, dependent on the government, dependent on the American Legion, when yet you have veterans that go out there and start small businesses.
And once they're really successful, now they can't control you.
Now you're a disruptor. Now Dr.
Bershane, oh, he's a disruptor because he's out there holding them accountable.
So hopefully there'll be more on it.
But Dr.
Bershane, thanks for coming on.
We're going to definitely be staying on this and probably using a hashtag to continue the conversation over the next few months in Congress as we try to...
What's that hashtag you want to use? I think Pashain Case is what we're going to be using.
Pashain Case. All right, Dr.
owen shroyer
Pashain, thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to stay tuned to that. And again, I mean, these are things that should be common sense.
Okay, billions of dollars on the VA not going to veterans?
That's, you know, that's ridiculous.
alex jones
All right, we'll be right back. The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
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You will now name five breakfast cereals.
I can't remember another one, Chief.
Five minutes later. What's the name of that damn cereal?
Bros and Smacks? Honey Flakes.
No, no, that's not it.
I had the frog on the box.
Big frogs. Actors Aiden.
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All right, hold on. Stay on track, Alex.
Breakfast cereal. Let's see here.
Dig on the frog. That's it.
Now, Honey Smash. That doesn't mean I don't want to go to court.
owen shroyer
That's the name of that damn cereal.
unidentified
Honey Smash. Can't believe it for God.
Spacone. This guy's over here still rambling.
Probably didn't even hear me. I don't know, man. Honey Smash.
What is Honey Smash? That's the fifth one.
alex jones
I forgot. You gave... You were beating my ass.
unidentified
I got him into the fifth one. Oh, okay.
So he just became confirmed now.
Hell yes. There you go.
owen shroyer
Inside the mind of Alex Jones.
He's thinking about honey smacks all day.
You didn't know it, did you? I did not.
So now you know. All right, we're having a little fun here on the veteran special.
Let's go ahead and squeeze in a call.
We've had some callers waiting. Let's jump over to my hometown of St.
Louis where I just was for Christmas.
Bill, an Army veteran, has called in.
Go ahead, Bill. You're on the air with myself and Christopher Nywim.
unidentified
Hey, how you doing?
Good. Thank you for calling. Yeah, hey, um...
I'm so glad I got in.
I wanted to give a shout out to the guys over at the Rob Gibson channel over on Vaughn and Bears Place on YouTube just for the hellos.
I called in today.
I wanted to talk about an initiative that we're trying to get started called the Emerald City Initiative is what we're calling it.
It's basically being put together to help the veterans.
I just could not sit on the side any longer and drive past these guys that are sitting on the side of the road begging for food at the exit ramps and stuff like that.
And I decided to do something about it.
And that's what we're trying to do.
We have a...
I've got a whole page up on Infocoms called the Emerald City Initiative Veterans Refuge.
And it explains everything there.
The whole point of it is that I am not going to sit along the side And just watch this happen on my watch.
And I just wanted to try and get the word out and let you guys know what's going on.
We have a GoFundMe now, and all this developed on the Infocomms.
The whole thing.
I acquired the land in East Central Missouri, and I have the opportunity And I wanted to get this set up.
owen shroyer
So all of this was made possible using InfoComms?
unidentified
Yes, yes. The whole idea.
owen shroyer
Oh my gosh, Bill, you have no idea.
That is everything I needed to hear right now.
That is exactly why I created InfoComms.
And you're talking to the right guy to help spur this movement along, Chris right here.
unidentified
Oh wow. Hey Chris.
christopher neiweem
That's great. I'm doing well.
unidentified
That's great. Making things happen.
owen shroyer
Yeah, he's working on all kinds of things right now in D.C., so where can people get more information about that, Bill?
unidentified
Well, InfoComms, obviously, and all you got to do is the search for, you got to do a search anymore because the page is so large.
owen shroyer
It got bigger than I thought it would so quickly.
It's amazing. Right, right.
unidentified
And I've been promoting it out on the social chat boards and stuff on the mayor sites as well.
But we have the main stuff.
I don't even have a website up yet as far as specifics on a website or a YouTube channel.
That's still in development, and I'm working on doing that.
that.
But we do have a GoFundMe up there as well.
You can look it up as Emerald City Veterans Refuge and it'll come up on you for that if somebody wants to contribute.
But not just the money, we're looking for hands.
We're looking for people that can help build.
And contribute into actually making this happen.
We want to develop this situation to where I want to build the workshops to where we can have the guys come in and work and help create the material.
owen shroyer
Well, I love it, Bill.
We're sharing the link right now on the screen so people can find it, the GoFundMe.
Great stuff. Wow. Thank you for calling, Bill.
alex jones
The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why, as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
Of InfoWars. So please, spread the links.
InfoWars.com, NewsWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
Because if you don't spread the articles and the videos, no one else will.
We're all in each other's hands.
God bless you all and thank you.
unidentified
I guess we'll...
Just bring you some sad breaking news right now.
That is Bree Payton, who worked over at the Federalist, regular on Fox, has passed away.
Only 26 years old.
owen shroyer
I did not ever get the chance to meet Bree.
unidentified
I know, Chris, you had a couple of runners with her.
owen shroyer
Died, I guess, in her sleep from complications with the swine flu.
Well, I'll just leave it at this.
I think there's going to be some details emerging from this story probably by the end of the day.
And I'll just leave it at that.
And I won't put anything else out there until it comes out, what I'm expecting to hear, perhaps.
But that's just too bad.
26 years old, dying from the swine flu.
That should not be happening.
And of course today also we're honoring who was the oldest living veteran, Richard Overton, who passed yesterday.
Today's veteran call-in show is actually dedicated to him.
Now we do have a couple of veterans called in.
Chris Nyweem is in studio with me.
Let's jump over to Brad Chadford, who is a Navy journalist, is what they're telling me, Brad?
I didn't realize. This is our friend that has Robert Mueller tattooed on his back.
That's a true story. Don't doubt me.
So Brad Chadford, my favorite anti-troll troll, has called in.
unidentified
Go ahead, Brad. Yeah, hey, yeah.
So, yeah, I'm a Navy veteran.
I spent five years on active duty.
And what I wanted to talk about with Chris, If possible, was something I don't think gets talked about a whole lot, the transition assistance program, or at least that's what they used to call it when I was in.
It was a long time ago, but TAP, I think it does little or nothing for guys that are trying to get out and start new careers.
And I wonder what you think about that and what you think we might do to kind of fix that problem.
christopher neiweem
Sure. So, you're right.
I think it does do little to nothing.
I remember, you know, so when I got out, I think it did a good job of at least saying, here's what your benefits are.
And obviously some states have state benefits that are better than others.
Some states will give you free public college.
Other states won't. And so you're relying on those federal benefits.
But I don't, I think it's sort of looked at as kind of rolling your eyes, just very much Death by PowerPoint.
I think you're right. I think it needs to be improved.
There was one bill passed this year to upgrade it.
It was a disaster by Congressman Jody Arrington, who I think is...
I don't like him.
We'll leave it there. He's got a staff member in Washington, D.C., who's never served in the military.
He's just sort of a...
A gopher who ended up trying to cut veterans' benefits.
He tried to reduce GI Bill benefits for veterans that wanted to seek pilot training at public universities.
Now, full disclosure, I've worked with one of the public universities that provides a lot of the training, which to me only gives me two more reasons to want to protect that benefit.
That bill failed, but the greater transition assistance program bill they were trying to upgrade, you know, to your point, Brad, it didn't really fundamentally change it aside from just sort of informing you what your benefits are, these counselors.
So I think there's opportunity to really do something more with it.
And my only recommendation is we've got some veterans coming into the new Congress, Dan Crenshaw, who's just, I think, incredible.
I think he's going to be – I think he's going to do some very special things in Congress.
I think having vets like us that have served working with people like Congressman-elect Crenshaw will probably be the best route to really get reforms because those VA committees, they've done some good work over the years, but they've also just not done good work.
I mean, there's a lot of issues.
You know, the veteran entrepreneur stuff we talked about in the last segment that's not getting attention.
So I think there's more room to upgrade the transition assistance program.
And I think the way we solve it is the veterans that are really doing well figure out what's going well and focus on that as opposed to sort of what I call, you know, a solution looking for a problem.
A member of Congress that wants to put out a press release, like Jody Arrington, who never served.
I think he's just a total knucklehead.
I just said it, knucklehead.
He puts out a bill, and it just doesn't solve any problem, but he gets to put out his press release.
Luckily, we beat him on trying to cut aviation training, but you're right, and I think I'd love to stay in touch with you to figure out ideas we can bring to the new Congress.
My proposed solution would be getting Congressman-elect Crenshaw involved, because I think he's going to be a real bold leader that, you know, former Navy SEAL, combat injured, that can really get some things solved at the DOD and the VA. Anything else, Brad?
unidentified
Well, I think that there are a lot of guys like myself who got out and fortunately found a job relatively quickly who can provide some guidance for guys who are getting out, who have some skills that are actually translatable.
Into the civilian world.
And I think the military is just dropping the ball when it comes to showing these guys, like, hey, there are jobs that your skills translate into, even if you think that they don't, you know?
I think that's the biggest problem.
A lot of guys think that, well, I was, you know, an operations specialist in the Navy, so I ran radar, and that doesn't translate.
Well, there are a lot of pieces of the job that you did that actually do translate.
And if somebody who was successful in getting out And did that could mentor these kind of guys, then we would actually have a good result.
And I think that we don't do that right now, and we need to start doing that.
owen shroyer
Well, are there sources right now, Chris, you may be familiar with this.
I know they exist, but I'm not sure how effective they are.
Or how much outreach they do, where they try to align small businesses or big businesses that want to hire veterans, but getting those veterans aware that those organizations exist.
How much of that is going on?
christopher neiweem
At the local level, there's a lot of good stuff happening, but as far as a national thing, what we run into is these job boards or the Department of Labor.
Which just kind of, there's so much information you can't really figure it out.
I think, also, Brad, I'm curious if you've kind of, your thoughts on this, but skilled labor is great, and it's just under-marketed.
You know, getting veterans to go into electrical, you know, jobs that are really kind of, you know, skill-based.
I feel like there's this sort of obsession with...
I think college is important, but I think there's this obsession with just, you've got to get this certain degree, and then you can't, you know, it depends on where you live.
unidentified
Yeah, we go crazy with this stuff, and I think, you know, Owen and I have had discussions about, you know, politics and stuff, and I don't want to get too far into that, but the whole idea that the C student, you know, just a regular guy who graduates high school and wants to go into the workforce, there's no place for that guy anymore in America.
It drives me insane, right?
It drives me nuts. I can't stand that idea.
I think that a veteran who comes home who is an electrician's mate, say in the Navy, I can only speak for the service that I was in.
But that stuff, we should be able to find jobs for these guys everywhere.
And I think that they do actually exist.
I think that one of the problems is that veterans get out of the military, especially the United States Navy, Without kind of an idea of how to fill out a resume, how to do a job, how to do this stuff, it would actually, you know, would make their lives completely different.
And I think we need to do a better job of educating guys on the way out rather than punishing them for getting out, you know, and I think that's part of it.
owen shroyer
And I've never heard anyone bring this point up, Brad, thank you so much for the call, about, you know, skilled labor and stuff like that, because To me, that's something, especially for people that may be dealing with some forms of PTSD or they get back in the States and they just can never really get themselves right because they're used to a certain lifestyle.
Working with your hands and learning a trade like that actually can be kind of a relief for PTSD. Psychologically, working with your hands, seeing the actual results of your work is something that can help people deal with that psychologically if that's an issue they have.
So a good point there from Brad.
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And those of you that have been listening and watching and taking action, the victories of populism and nationalism and Christianity, coming back from the dead and recognizing us being persecuted, that's all because you are the core.
Listening to Infowars around the world, the eyes and ears of liberty, That were immune or at least resistant to the globalist programming.
Everybody knows who studies this that it's Christians, real Christians, who tend to be immune to the globalist brainwashing and who tend to see it.
And that's why they're trying to eradicate you.
But regardless, this fight is intensifying.
2018 has been insane.
2019 is going to be the big decision maker.
And I am so honored to be here with you right beside me.
Not behind us, but right beside us and at the heart of everything, resisting these globalists.
So whatever you do, take action and realize we're changing history together and I salute you.
The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else, like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
Of InfoWars. So please, spread the links.
InfoWars.com, NewsWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
Because if you don't spread the articles and the videos, no one else will.
We're all in each other's hands.
God bless you all and thank you.
unidentified
The War Room.
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We are controlled by the media.
Today it all changes.
This reality has been forced upon us.
It is a choice.
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Einstein said the definite advantage.
Okay.
Okay, welcome back to the war room.
Oh yeah. It's a veterans calling special.
owen shroyer
It actually works.
I don't know how, but somehow it works.
Chris and I just sat down in the chair five seconds before we went live.
And then the crew was in the middle of rolling a video and a music bed.
And then they kind of crossed paths and made a beautiful piece of art there.
But it is the veterans special here.
And we've got some more veterans called up here.
Let's go right out to the phone line.
Sean, an Army veteran, has called in from New Jersey.
Go ahead, Sean.
You're on air with Chris and myself.
unidentified
Are you there?
owen shroyer
Yes, go ahead, Sean.
unidentified
Thank you.
Okay, I'm calling in.
I've called in a few times.
We spoke. I got cut off one time, and you were kind of into what I was saying.
I don't know if you remember. Okay.
I'm here to talk about the purple elephant in the room.
Something I've not heard any veteran talk about, but I will guarantee you it's on their mind, brother.
What happens when these demo shifts take over in January and pass this new gun bill that they're pushing?
I want every veteran, and this is a rally.
This is a rally cry.
When these jackasses take over and they start confiscating and repealing the Second Amendment and start confiscating firearms, I want every veteran to realize that they are going to come after us first.
If that happens and we fall, what do you think is going to happen to the American people?
christopher neiweem
Sean, I don't think that's going to happen to that extent.
I mean, I think there have been some issues at the VA. I know that they've – certain veterans that have been in the fiduciary program, for example, they can't take care of their finances.
They're put on a gun ban list, essentially, that was kind of backdoored, but then it wasn't enforced.
There was some writing on that.
Some veterans groups worked on it.
I worked on it. The NRA talked about that a little bit.
They've kind of backed off that a little bit, but I don't think – I don't think the House Democrats are going to be able to do much.
And I think if anything, there's going to be sort of a re-emphasis of strong discussion around the Second Amendment.
I think it's been mischaracterized a lot.
We talked a little bit earlier about school security.
I mean, no one has ever advocated to just have guns in schools blank.
I mean, the issue was people were going in and there were issues.
So I think I share your concern in terms of that issue, but I don't think that they're going to have this sort of The traction and the sort of the power to be creating those sorts of issues for us.
And I think we also have to push back on those stories.
I mean, every once in a while, there are issues with disturbed people, and sometimes disturbed people can be veterans.
So we have to kind of push back on the narrative, too, that, you know, the broken veteran narrative, which oftentimes I think the media likes to run with.
So I think I share your concern.
I just don't think we're going to see that illuminate the To that extent, in terms of any gun rights being taken away when those Dems are sworn in?
unidentified
What I'm talking about is the new bill.
It's SB 711-something, where they want to get rid of self-made firearms 80%.
They want to do away with semi-automatics.
Everything's in that bill, and it is an absolute violation of the Second Amendment.
And as far as the NRA is concerned, there's one thing my father taught me when I was a kid, is they are too flexible when it comes to the Second Amendment rights.
They're the ones who asked the ATF to investigate this bump stock thing.
They are the cause of the ban.
christopher neiweem
Interesting. I think they had to give on 1% of something.
My guess is that's what they gave in.
I'll look for the bill.
Obviously, all the legislation is about to expire, and the new Congress, they'll start new legislation.
So I'll look for that, and I think that's good that you're putting that on the radar.
owen shroyer
Well, and it's interesting, too. Thank you for the call, Sean.
It's interesting, too, because I think normally if the historical pattern is – if my thinking is correct on this, it's usually this last session of Congress where everybody finally shows up because people are taking vacations, sick, whatever.
I think it's like – I forget the final number of Congress.
I think it's 500-something.
I can't think about it off the top of my head.
The point is, a lot of times a year when they're voting, not all of them are there, right?
But when this last session comes in, before this legislation expires, a lot of them show up.
And I don't think the Dems have the vote to get anything like that done, but it should be interesting to see if there's any controversy or a discussion.
christopher neiweem
And they don't in the Senate.
So, I mean, it's good he shot and put those concerns on the radar, but in terms of I don't see that happening.
owen shroyer
Now, they could refresh that and bring it up for the next 116th Congress, and that might be more of a concern with the House.
But still, I don't know about the Senate.
christopher neiweem
And it only takes, you know, without getting all into the details of how the rules of the Congress and the Senate, but in the Senate, all it takes is one senator to really draw something down in terms of any senator can block a piece of legislation.
So if it's really controversial, you can tend to only have one senator.
We've seen that in this Congress.
There have been a couple senators that put holds on certain bills.
They can do it anonymously.
And so the Senate, if you have a concern...
Contacting your senator is usually a good place to go with that, especially if it's something that's really controversial or could get into a, you know, so, you know, I wouldn't worry about it as much.
And with the House, the House does tend to this sort of the nature of the Constitutional Convention, too, is the House passes a lot of bills, let's pass some stuff, let's throw ideas, and then the Senate is sort of that clearinghouse of the last draw.
And so I'll look for that, but I don't think that's something to be concerned about in the coming future.
owen shroyer
All right, let's take a quick call here from Mike in Maryland.
Go ahead, Mike. Hey, guys.
jefferson in virginia
It's called the veto. We don't have to really worry about that next session.
The president can veto anything that's Second Amendment challenging.
My issue is on the veteran call-in shows, it would be nice if we had another subset of people that are awakened to 9-11 being an inside job and finding out when the veterans were awakened to that issue.
owen shroyer
What do you mean, we're awakened?
Is there like a coalition or something about this?
jefferson in virginia
Well, I mean, last month you had Tig Tiguan on, and he didn't seem to understand what made the towers fall down.
He thought the steel was old.
owen shroyer
Okay, so you're just talking about bringing general awareness to what I believe is a false narrative from 9-11.
jefferson in virginia
Right, but I mean, it's difficult for veterans to admit that they know that 9-11 is an inside job, especially if they're on camera doing it.
owen shroyer
Well, here's the thing about this.
Here's the thing about this.
And we've got to jump.
We've got 30 seconds left here.
I want to be careful when we talk about this.
And this isn't me trying to be PC. This is such a delicate thing that you have to be careful how you approach it and you have to be careful how you word it.
And I'm not disagreeing with you, Mike.
I'm saying as soon as you say inside job, half of the people's ears are turned off.
And I'm not saying it was or wasn't an inside job.
I'm saying if you really want to be effective in getting out what you think is 9-11 truth, you have to be very, very selective about how you word it and the topics you talk about.
Like, for example, how did the buildings fall?
Like, oh, let's discuss that. So that's how you really talk about it.
alex jones
For those of us that are the tip of the spear, we're being targeted to take out the leadership.
That's the globalist only hope.
So when you support Infowars, when you spread our articles and videos, when you buy products at Infowarsstore.com, you are literally not just supporting Infowars and free speech and standing in defiance against Soros and Hillary and the rest of these people, but you are standing for your own future and your own best shot of having an early warning system in America to stand against these individuals.
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And we have the biggest specials ever running throughout to the end of the year as part of a total store clearance.
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I salute you all. Now please take action at InfoWarsStore.com.
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There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why, as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
Of InfoWars. So please, spread the links.
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There's Cux.
You're fucking a white male.
And then there's the Cux Slayer.
It's The War Room with Owen Schroer.
We are live here from the InfoWars World Headquarters in Austin, Texas, OSU.
owen shroyer
Owen Schroer, Chris and I are in the studio with me.
If the veterans call in special, the lines are open.
1-888-201-2244.
1-888-201-2244.
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First off, I want to give a shout out to a friend of ours in Northern Illinois who wants to, I believe, remain anonymous at this point, who purchased an ad for InfoWars in the local paper.
And actually, I found this out.
This was a huge mystery to me.
This is a radio station that...
That is available in Northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin, and I guess it even reaches Madison, because we had a caller say, hey, I was driving through Madison looking for a Packer game on Sunday when they found InfoWars Live rerun,
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I mean, just to kind of give you a little behind the scenes, talking about how we can do a better job talking about our products.
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So, it's your support that makes everything we do here possible, ladies and gentlemen, because people don't understand it.
I mean, I go out of town, you know, for Christmas and stuff, people are like, how do you guys fund yourselves?
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All right, let's go to Michael, an Army veteran, called in.
You're on air with Chris and I, Weeman, myself.
Go ahead, Michael. Yes, you're on air, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I just wanted to kind of, I'm going to stick to the subject because I can talk for hours and hours and hours.
But what I wanted to ask was why the VA, what I have personally experienced is they're not recognizing or testing for biological or chemical exposure.
And the reason why I'm saying that is, and I want to say thank you to InfoWars, your guys' products, because It has given me light in a world that I was stuck in that was so dark in my mind.
And I've been doing this now for three years and it's greatly helped me and everything else.
But what I've also experienced is that being on compensation disability and having four children, the compensation money isn't enough to support living or dealing, coping and recovering Well,
owen shroyer
actually, Chris, this is something that I don't know if we've talked about it before, but I know people have brought it up about allowing veterans, and Trump has talked about this too, to have more options when it comes to the type of care they can receive post-service.
christopher neiweem
Yeah, so Michael, you're touching on something really, really key there, and I think it's twofold.
One, we were talking earlier about the veterans, small business, and entrepreneurs.
I think we need to Give veterans more employment opportunities to earn more money where disability pay is good supplemental, but it's not the primary income.
One. And two, to have different health care options or to fund alternative health care, whether it's equine therapy or all these other things.
And I'm going to go there. I think the problem with the VA is these pharmaceuticals are just so strangleholded that we're so on pills, we're on Xanax and all these other things.
And in the short term, most things work.
But in the long term, I think there's...
unidentified
And that's the thing that I'm battling now and I'm fighting is because I'm fighting to get my doctors to diagnose me properly and then give me a paper that says my diet and my environment is medically necessary.
And I think the first step that they're refusing to do is the proper diagnosis.
Because when I went in there, I asked, can I have a heavy metal test?
Can I have a vitamin deficiency test?
Can I have all these tests that I've learned through research or through InfoWars?
And I even recorded my doctor.
He said that the VA does not do that.
We do not do testing like that.
And that he is only allowed to do Western medicine and things like that.
owen shroyer
Now see, this is actually, that's the key right there, Michael.
And I'm so glad you brought this up because it's not something I've ever heard brought up before, but the types of tests readily available to veterans, you know, to say, okay, you know, for example, like, and it all really comes back.
unidentified
I went to an outside doctor and I use online resources.
To get my stool tested and then to get my deficiency testing and all that, I went to all resources other than the VA. So they wouldn't help you with what you've viewed yourself as something necessary.
owen shroyer
But again, Michael, here's the key that you're hitting on here.
It all comes back to the Western medicine industry where if you even go to approach somebody inside the medical industry and you say, hey, You know, I want to do X or X or Y for my care.
If whatever you're mentioning or thinking of is outside of the realm of the pharmaceutical industry, they will not listen to you.
It's totally ingrained into their heads.
It's honestly a brainwashing thing.
It's like if it's not Western medicine pharmaceutical, they want nothing to do with it.
I forget what it was, but when I was out of town, there was somebody talking about a major thyroid issue they had.
Okay? And they were prescribed some prescription drug.
And I went up and I looked it up.
Zero iodine in that prescription drug for a thyroid issue.
That is a basic biological necessity and they don't even address it.
Why? Because it doesn't benefit the pharmaceutical medical industry.
Michael, 30 seconds. Anything else?
unidentified
Okay. So the biggest thing I'm fighting right now is with my, I have a hood bash caseworker at the VA. And the lady has threatened me to have somebody take control of my finances because a huge portion of my budget goes towards buying either Whole Foods products or Infowars stuff, and it's not justifiable.
So I'm having to fight to justify why I'm spending this money.
And they are looking at it as a personal choice and not as in a...
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah. It's the old government technique.
You don't know what's best for you.
You don't know what's best for you.
I know what's best for you.
That is just...
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And you saw 18 Twitter accounts, they say affiliated with Infowars.
Yeah, some of them are like little side accounts.
They know we had like Infowars stores that just showed our products.
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Your excitement about America, your excitement about this broadcast is what brought the country and the world back from the brick.
But the globalists now want to target where the resistance came from so that we're not pesky in the future.
I want to be troublesome and pesky.
I want to keep going. I want to make them do the ultimate, not just destroy us financially.
I want to push all the way.
I've committed to do that.
I've prayed for that, and I've been told that's going to happen.
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I physically will. But I give you my commitment, if you financially support us, InfoWarsStore.com, to give you my absolute total commitment.
The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else, like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
That's why, as we close out 2018, I want to just remind the listeners of the amazing fight we're all in and how far we've come together.
Just remind you that you are the power, you're the strength, you're the will.
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unidentified
We need your support.
owen shroyer
Veterans call-in special.
unidentified
The lines are open for veterans to call in on anything today.
owen shroyer
1-888-201-2244.
unidentified
1-888-201-2244.
owen shroyer
Lines are open for you. We've got Cole, an Army veteran in Texas, called in.
Let's get Cole on the line.
unidentified
Go ahead, Cole. Hey, Owen.
owen shroyer
Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead.
unidentified
Alright, well, I just wanted to kick it off with...
The products are excellent.
I take the iodine and the vitamin mineral fusion and the brain force.
Those three in combination really burn the fog off if you know what I mean.
owen shroyer
Absolutely, and thank you for that plug.
Again, we have people call in.
We don't ask them to plug.
I didn't know Cole was going to plug.
The products really work, folks.
unidentified
Thank you so much, Cole. I just wanted to touch on what the last caller talked about.
I was having some...
Issues with my upper back when I got out of service and, you know, the VA wasn't really receptive to the sort of treatment I wanted, so I started just going and getting chiropractic care and massages to get the rocks and ropes kind of...
owen shroyer
Which I've had callers, we've had actually callers call in on this same thing during a veteran just talking about back issues.
unidentified
The VA won't cover chiropractic care.
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I've been paying out of pocket.
It's the treatment that works.
Like, I used to have my hands go numb when I lay down and all that stuff.
All that's gone. But, uh...
Good luck getting VA to put the bill for that stuff.
owen shroyer
And see, this is another perfect example, not to cut you off here, Cole, but it's another perfect example where it's the Western medicine industry cutting off certain things.
You can say whatever you want about chiropractic care.
I know for myself, it has worked.
And for Cole calling it, it has worked.
But they, oh no, there's no drug, there's no proof, it's not the Western medicine industry.
unidentified
No, no, no. And I'm sure if I would have asked for it, I could have gotten any opiate-based painkiller on the...
owen shroyer
Oh, tenfold. They'd give you a double prescription if you asked for it.
unidentified
Yeah, so anyway, those of you out there that are listening that have issues, my chiropractor explained it to me this way, that the mental and emotional tensions do manifest in your body, and being able to kind of ease those It's a good relief because then,
I mean, they will come back if you don't get treatment kind of regularly, but it really makes a whole lot of difference in your mental and physical well-being.
owen shroyer
And not to go down this road, Cole, but since you've went this way, thank you so much for the call and support.
But Chris, From my experience, most chiropractors are actually more in tune with, let's just call it self-care, than any doctor I've ever met.
The doctor wants to prescribe you every pill, go under the knife, everything.
The chiropractor says, hey, what are you eating?
Are you stretching? What kind of activities do you do?
What's your lifestyle like? Are you under stress?
I mean, very rarely do you ever get that from an actual doctor at a hospital.
christopher neiweem
That's true. I think both the healthcare context and the education context, getting away from the VA knows best, getting into the choices.
Choices tend to be a good thing.
Chiropractic care, alternative health, I think those are things that are important.
And also establishing a good relationship with your doctor.
And that's been a challenge, too, is When there's turnover and things like that, it's hard to remake that connection.
But I think for the veterans that are calling in, telling those stories, they should keep doing it.
And also, there's organizations like, I think, Concerned Veterans for America.
They're more focused on alternative choices.
You know, again, I hate to hit them again, but the legacy veterans groups like the Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion have been less receptive to the modern vet, what we're really hearing now.
And they've been more pro-VA. You know, they haven't really pushed back.
I mean, they've been pro animal dog torture program because the VA says it's good.
They've been pro, oh, the VA knows best.
And the funny thing is half of their national staff members aren't even eligible to use the VA.
So they don't actually know what it's like because they were in an era where they weren't able to use it.
Or they've basically just been like kind of VA leadership hacks that are like, oh, you know, we want to go have coffee.
So Concerned Veterans of America, some of these newer veterans groups, I think MVETS is pretty good in terms of a real voice to like look at these policies and really kind of listen and learn and understand we need those alternative health care choices.
And I mean, I hate to beat them up that way, but the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars national teams in Washington have just become total...
Just pro-VA, don't question anybody.
And even before President Trump got elected, they were writing letters to the president just saying, warning about, you know, don't privatize the VA. It's like they jumped from, like, step one of offering some choices to, like, the extreme that, like, President Trump is just going to demolish the VA. It hasn't happened.
Actually, the VA keeps getting more money, and yet we still have all these veterans out there.
Every day you hear the same, and we've had how many calls right now on issues?
owen shroyer
Well, it's been so far behind, too.
It's just playing catch-up.
christopher neiweem
Right. So I think choices tend to be a good thing.
So I think continuing to inform – and again, some of these veterans that are coming into Congress I think will really be helpful.
That's where I get frustrated too with like a Bernie Sanders.
I've always given him credit for being consistent.
It's like you're consistently wrong and very lunatic social.
Consistently communist. You're consistently communist.
But – It just doesn't work.
And, you know, again, his thing was, like, we want to give veterans free dental care.
And it's like, you know, we'd like free ice cream.
We'd like to free everything. But it's like, if we can't even get in to see primary health care physicians, how practical?
And it's not practical.
And I think that's the issue. And, you know, again, for folks that don't use the VA, that are big champions, those are folks you've got to light up.
You've got to light them up in the media.
You've got to pound them because they don't actually have that health care experience anymore.
Like these vets calling in.
We're living it. For many veterans, that's the healthcare system.
So when you're dealing with that VA bureaucrat on the phone who just doesn't necessarily have that sort of cultural connectivity to you, it can be frustrating.
But they've got a lot of money.
It's like a $180 billion plus budget.
So hopefully we can get the VA. President Trump's done a lot of good things with it.
But again, I think that the problem is it outlives presidencies.
And There's a lot of highly paid VA bureaucrats in there that are just...
Terrible. And some are good.
But the problem is the ones that are bad are able to just really create a bad environment at a particular hospital system in a particular state.
And it just takes a while to unwind them and get them out of those leadership positions because it's easier to win the lottery than it is to get a bad VA employee removed from their job when they commit malfeasance or depart from VA's values and break rules.
In some cases, break the law. We've seen that, too.
owen shroyer
And it's also easier for someone like Bernie Sanders to play armchair quarterback and comment on VA issues as a political thing to try to win votes when he really has no idea what he's talking about.
christopher neiweem
True. And, you know, President Trump gets criticized.
You know, President Trump is politicized.
Well, he won veterans two to one.
So, you know, again...
owen shroyer
Yeah, and he was just overseas.
Again, I mean, they were fans of Obama, too.
It's not to sit here and say Obama didn't have fans of the military, but he goes overseas, and it's just crazy.
They're chanting Trump. They're chanting USA. They're trying to get hats and flags signed.
It's like fanfare. So much, in fact, the leftist media is complaining, and they wanted...
Did you see that? They wanted to get these veterans fired, claiming some...
citing some law... That you're not allowed to show support.
I forget what the exact thing is.
And it's like, wow.
christopher neiweem
So it gets sticky too because...
In the military, it is sort of non-political.
I mean, something like that, the president walks in a room, you're going to get a little cited.
owen shroyer
I forget the law they were citing was, but basically, yeah, you can't show your political thing while in uniform.
christopher neiweem
And there were times when there were veterans in my unit who, you know, everyone has different opinions, right?
Every once in a while there's a liberal. There was a veteran that had like a sticker that was sort of anti-Bush back in the day.
They kind of got away with it, and we were kind of like, you know, you're not supposed to do that.
But again, like you mentioned, the problem with the leftist media is they're so biased.
They can't even control themselves.
It's disgusting. They've got to jump to that.
owen shroyer
It's not even biased anymore.
We should stop saying it. It's hateful.
It is just sheer...
When you can lie and know...
I mean, it's just sheer hate to me.
christopher neiweem
Well, and I don't want to give it too much attention, but I just saw the film Vice, and it was just...
Such garbage left...
And the thing is this. If you're going to have a left-wing hack film, that's fine.
But how they sort of... You watch the trailers.
The whole film was just to the lowest common denominator.
They make President Bush look like he's almost...
It was just the worst possible far-left extreme kind of anti-film.
And I think it was almost subliminally supposedly trying to go at President Trump.
And the great irony is you've got to have the leftist actor...
Who literally berates other people on set, you know, the famous Christian Bale rant, which is humorous, but it's like only these elite, hack, liberal people like Robert De Niro that play tough guys on TV that are actually little wimps in real life.
And it's like, you know what? Why don't you guys get a message, get a candidate that people can kind of get behind?
Don't leave out half of America, lose, and then complain, you know?
So, I mean, again, we all have difference of opinion, but it has gone so far extremist left.
owen shroyer
Well, I haven't seen the movie, so I'm going to refrain from comment.
Before I see it.
But it's like everything they do has that anti-Trump, you know, little tinge to it, right?
I mean, they can't do anything without Trump just a little bug in the back of their head, you know?
christopher neiweem
Yeah, it's my only last negative plug on it.
It's just so cliche.
Like, imagine a cliche, every cliche liberal reference, and it's like, by the end of the movie, you're like...
Okay. I thought it was going to be a cliche leftist hack movie, and then it was a leftist cliche hack movie, so there's other movies out there, I guess.
So that's always a good thing.
Choice is a good thing. Choice is a good thing, right?
owen shroyer
I don't know, man. The movies these days, it's tough.
I mean, I went and saw the new Clint Eastwood, The Mule, over Christmas.
I don't understand what everybody's raving.
I mean, I thought it was fine, but, like, not that impressive to me.
I don't know. Good movies are few and far between these days.
All right, we'll be right back with more Air Calls.
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owen shroyer
All right, we got an interesting clip that I want to play here for Chris.
I'm sorry, I'm laughing thinking about it.
It's just so ridiculous. This is CNN, Don Lemonhead, an IQ of less than a ham sandwich, and listen to what he and his guests said about President Trump during the Christmas break.
unidentified
We turned on CNN and we saw the president politicizing a Christmas message.
We kept saying, he's like the Grinch.
I'm being honest.
No, he stole Christmas. Instead of being positive with...
Saying that Trump...
owen shroyer
Is that the full clip, guys? Oh, interesting.
All right, well, that's okay.
Anyway, they're now saying on CNN that Trump is the Grinch that stole Christmas.
unidentified
Trump is. Didn't he bring back Christmas?
owen shroyer
Isn't he the guy that like campaigned on making Christmas great again?
christopher neiweem
You know, I mean, this is what happens when you see fake news, Owen.
I feel like CNN, can we at least agree that he's got the greatest hand gestures in the history of politics?
I mean, I feel like Democrats should agree the hand gestures are just second to none.
owen shroyer
We were actually talking about that.
It was like a story for like a month during the campaign, and then everything got so crazy.
We forgot about all the hand gestures with the A-OK and all the other stuff he does.
He's always been doing this.
christopher neiweem
He's been doing it for a long time, but I think the two best are, one, like the little spin thing, like this, or he'll call on Nancy Pelosi, a little long monologue, and then, Nancy, did you want to say something?
I've got the vote. And then it's like, excuse me, you've got to do the stiff palm, though.
It's like, excuse me, we have borders.
Excuse me, Chuck, you don't want to have borders.
We do. But the hand gestures have been successful, but I think the problem with CNN is, The problem I've always had is it's just all the like-minded drone guests.
There's never any opposition. Or they have an opposition that's so muted.
owen shroyer
And then any opposition they get is fired or kicked off the next day.
christopher neiweem
Fired or kicked off the next day or suspended.
And they hated the fake news thing.
They throw people off.
I remember Paris Stenard said that twice, and Don Lemon ran off and ran home and everything like that.
And with Fox, I keep hearing Fox News is so conservative.
I think Fox actually moved a little left, frankly, in the time that I've been...
owen shroyer
Depends what time you're watching, I think.
Depends what show. But let's go back to the...
I mean, how ridiculous...
Okay, the Grinch, whatever.
They sit here and they act like Trump is unpopular with the Army.
They act like Trump is unpopular with the military.
They act like Trump is some screws.
They say he never went and visited.
I mean, all of it lies.
From all of my experience, and again, I don't know how many people are in the military.
We're talking probably millions of people here.
Not everybody's going to think the same.
Of course not. Nobody's saying that.
But to sit here and pretend like Trump is unpopular within the military ranks, that is so inaccurate.
It's just absurd.
christopher neiweem
That's true. I mean, the military really views the president as the commander-in-chief because of his constitutional role.
Obviously, the president has different roles.
He's the party leader.
He is the head of the bureaucracy.
He's the commander-in-chief.
But the commander-in-chief is sort of that constitutional role for the military leader.
So... He's in the chain of command in the military.
Like, when you go to military posts, you'll see the president.
So I don't think they really overly think politically, but remember, on this one, the media's making it look political.
The media...
Right. And they're taking away...
Honestly, CNN's the Grinch, because you're taking away their five minutes.
I mean, you're over there, you're in a...
I mean, depending on where you are, what country you're in, it usually, in terms of hospitality, in comparison to the States, it sucks.
I mean, some bases you have, like...
What they call MWR, Morale, Wellness and Recreation, where you have areas to kind of...
But in forward bases or if you're out in certain areas, there's none of that.
It depends on what country, which theater you're in.
But for a president to visit, it's sort of a positive thing.
That's kind of a good thing. And they just, first they did the fake news reporting on it, and then they came back, and then now it's the Grinch.
So I guess you just can't say something positive.
owen shroyer
No, that's it. CNN is the Grinch that stole Christmas.
CNN, Don Lemon's show stole the Christmas hype that the military deserved when President Trump went and visited them.
Don Lemon is the Grinch that stole Christmas.
alex jones
The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
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unidentified
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owen shroyer
Veterans Calling Special. Woo!
unidentified
With Chris Nyween. Woo!
The woo is cute.
owen shroyer
No, every once you look, I come from a radio media background, so like radio schticks and everything, like, you know, that's kind of what I do.
Including, I mean, you could say, the Veterans Call-In Special.
What a great radio schtick idea.
Who doesn't want to have a three-hour broadcast where we hear from veterans?
In fact, we've got another, we've got actually the widow of a veteran called in right now.
Let's go right to Phyllis, who's called in from Pennsylvania.
Yeah, we love hearing from you guys.
Go ahead, Phyllis. Thank you for calling.
unidentified
Hey, thank you for taking my call.
And I want to get to it, even though I use all your products and they're great and everything like that.
The pharmaceutical industry is what runs CNN and all the other mainstream media.
They are never, ever, ever going to be on Trump's side because Trump doesn't get vaccinated.
He knows that vaccines, and he has made a comment about vaccines being vaccinated.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Phyllis.
Remember, it was a story the Cruiser pulled up.
It was like a huge controversy that Trump refused the flu vaccine like two years ago or something.
unidentified
Right. He doesn't get them.
He says, I never get them. I don't get them.
owen shroyer
I don't get the flu. Yeah, because they use this whole media push like, oh, we're going to vaccinate the White House with the flu vaccine.
And Trump was like, no, you're not.
unidentified
Yeah, right. No, you're not.
No, you're not. No, I'm not going to take it.
My wife's not going to take it.
The point of what I'm trying to get to is that the VA will never, ever, nor will any universal health care that we have in this country ever go toward anything alternative or can help you.
It was set up, whether it was Romney Care or Obamacare, it was set up to make you sick, to keep you there and to drown out everything else.
The reason why Alex is nailed all the time is because of these pharmaceuticals or these nutraceuticals that he and the pharmaceutical industry hates him.
They're the biggest lobbyists that are in the pockets of all the legislators that are doing all the other stuff that we talk about all the time.
And I've been doing this for years and years talking about this.
I lectured on the dangers of vaccines since 1986.
So I know exactly what's going on.
I know all the little tricks.
Vaccinations are the reasons why people are sick.
And it's not viral that causes cancer.
It's vaccines and all the toxins.
That's what causes cancer.
owen shroyer
And they know it. Well, and stay right there, Phyllis.
I want to get Chris's take on one thing you said.
You're in D.C. You know the power of lobbying.
How powerful is the pharmaceutical lobbying industry?
christopher neiweem
That's powerful. I mean, the only positive things I could say is when you have a cure for something and you finally start shuffling that into the VA, and of course then, even then, I think they're competing for some sort of a fixed price where, I mean, I have seen those companies try to kind of hire firms and they're unable to kind of penetrate the VA. The only positive thing I could think about that is if you've got veterans out there that understand what's going on, it could create opportunities for them to actually help other veterans get something done that maybe the agency's resisting.
I think that that's true.
I mean, again, I think that's another reason why alternate media is so important.
And I've talked to so many people, including Democrats, that are like, you know, I'm really into Infowars because there's not that mainstream media lens on something where you can never say that.
I don't think you're going to see that on the news anywhere where someone's like, yeah, the pharmaceutical companies have got too much control.
There's just going to be too much control.
owen shroyer
Every commercial break, there's a pharmaceutical ad.
christopher neiweem
Right. And, you know, the ubiquity and the marketing and the point of that is to just sort of drive that into the mind of the patient so the patient feels like it really needs to have that sort of medication.
And again, I think we've talked a little bit in this show and these segments on alternative, or really choice, I wouldn't say alternative care.
owen shroyer
It's not alternative if you're in the East sometimes.
christopher neiweem
Or if you're using it. Right, which has been working.
owen shroyer
For thousands of years.
Millions, maybe. Right.
christopher neiweem
Who knows? Absolutely. I mean, just even like the deep breathing, the Wim Hof method I've just discovered, which is very interesting, involving deep breathing, this Dutch athlete who climbed Mount Everest with his shirt off in the cold.
That's been really interesting and scientifically proven to improve the immune system, the way that the body connects with the brain in cold temperatures.
It's been something that's been interesting, but I just can't disagree with what Phyllis is saying.
owen shroyer
Well, and And here's the thing, too.
It's not like we're sitting here saying there is no good use for the Western medicine industry or the current pharmaceutical industry.
There is. A lot of people are on pharmaceutical drugs that help them with allergies and this, that, and the other thing.
My thing is that it's not the be-all, end-all.
It's not the final say.
There's other options out there that might be more effective.
And, I mean, Phyllis, you're talking about the supplements at Infowarsstore.com.
Did you have a specific thing that you've dealt with in your life where...
Someone tried to sell you the Western medicine option and it wasn't the correct thing for you?
unidentified
Well, my child was vaccine-damaged in 1986 from a DPT vaccine.
They haven't done anything about the DPT vaccine on mainstream media since about that time, about mid-1980.
My first husband had leukemia and he got it after being exposed to Monsanto's Agent Orange in Vietnam.
And he ended up having cancer.
They would not do anything.
They would not allow him to do anything alternatively.
And if he did, they would not give him any ability to go for a bone marrow transplant, which was the only alternative, quote-unquote, other type of experimental medication that they would do.
And meanwhile, the bone marrow transplant caused him to have a disease that was caused by the transplant, called graft-versus-house disease, that killed him.
So as a result, I have dealt with vaccine injury and with my own children.
I became a homeopath back in 1986 in order to cure my own child of autism, which I did.
But nonetheless, they don't even want to talk about any of this kind of stuff.
They don't want to talk about any of the supplements.
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Nonetheless, that's what they are attacking you for.
They're not attacking you because of what you say.
You can stand here and say that there are kids taken to Mars and whatever.
You can say all of that.
They don't care about that.
What they care about is that you say that there's fluoride in the water.
They care about the fact that you're saying take the deep earth.
owen shroyer
That's right.
And then you're exactly right, Phyllis.
It's the same thing. It's not just that we're, you know, let's say, combating fake news or corporate media or the Western medicine industry.
We're providing the alternative option.
Like, we're saying, hey, this is why this is bad.
This is why this is good. Make your own choice.
unidentified
Right. And there are people who are whistleblowers who were told by the people because they have alternative medicine that actually helps or alternative devices that actually help people stay younger and regenerate their stem cells on their own without doing all of this other crazy stuff that Hillary does with her crazy woman.
But nonetheless, they tell them, you can talk about aliens and fightings of aliens and being taken by aliens, but you talk about alternative medicine and cures, and we're going to nail you.
We're going to take you for everything.
They've killed people. They've killed their family members.
They've killed their animals.
They threaten them all the time.
This is the stuff. This is what this is all about.
owen shroyer
And then they steal all their research, too.
unidentified
Right, and I quit watching scenes back in the 90s.
I was way, way into all of the creeps that they were doing.
When Alex Jones was a babysitting, playing with his Legos, I was out there talking what he talks today.
owen shroyer
Well, it sounds like you know what you're talking about because you've done the research, Phyllis, and God bless you.
unidentified
God bless you, and have a wonderful and prosperous new year.
God bless us. God bless the United States of America.
God bless Donald J. Trump, the best president we've ever had.
owen shroyer
And Phyllis, I mean, your support at Infowarsstore.com is what makes it possible for everything we do.
And I mean, you know Alex's commitment and my commitment is right there, standing right beside him.
So we're never going to stop fighting for the truth, no matter how much they try to ban us.
You see Alex is trying to expand in the middle of all this censorship.
I mean, he's a total madman doing that.
He's costing himself millions of dollars.
But that's what we deal with.
You know, it's just – here's the thing, Chris.
unidentified
Thanks.
owen shroyer
People just, it's like they want to rely on someone else for everything, right?
That's just kind of a basic foundational thing I think we're dealing with culturally, where they want to rely on the government for everything, right?
I want to rely on the government for healthcare, for education, for safety.
That's not the American way.
The American way is being independent, relying on yourself.
Self-reliance. So it's like, I... I hate to even talk about it.
It jinx myself or something, right?
But it's like, I never go to the doctor, okay?
And when I do, and the doctor does the test and looks all my eyes, he's like, oh my gosh, everything is perfect.
unidentified
He's like, what do you do?
owen shroyer
It's like, I just know.
I take supplements. I take care of myself.
I know what I need. People don't...
It's like the doctor's shocked. Like, no, I'm supposed to tell you what you need.
You're not supposed to know. I know what you need.
christopher neiweem
I know. He knows better. Yeah.
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The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, they can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
And, of course, they're two of the dominant media forces in the world.
It really is amazing.
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owen shroyer
Chris Nyweem is in studio for the Veterans Call-In Special.
We've got wide open lines right now for any veterans that want to call in.
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If you want to get in today, we're actually honoring, we're dedicating today's Veteran Call-In Special to Richard Overton, who lived here in Austin.
He was the Oldest living veteran, and he is now deceased at the ripe age of 112.
He credited whiskey, cigars, and God for his remarkable longevity.
How about that? So, let's get into some news here, and we'll aggregate some calls.
Where to begin? Well, we've talked about the fake news attacking President Trump for not visiting the troops, and then he did visit the troops, and then they attacked the troops for liking President Trump.
We talked about how MSNBC showed a video from 2011 Border Patrol and then blamed Trump for that.
Here's one for you. I mean, this is just...
This is the kind of stuff. In fact, you know what?
I haven't even mentioned the Coward Fraud Watch list today, and that's okay because I'm still trying to get back into the swing of things here.
But guys, let's go ahead and put Christina Mazza.
I need to update my list here.
Christina Mazza needs to be on the Coward Fraud Watch here because she writes this story with the headline, Both Trump and the Nazis used Christmas to promote white nationalism.
unidentified
Do you have any comment? I'm unaware of that.
christopher neiweem
I've heard from a lot of people on the left, and these are sort of like the Democrat consultant types, the Democrat consultant class about, in their view, if you don't jump out of your way to find one thing and then refute it, that it's like the dog whistle stuff.
But the problem I have with them is they'll do it for anything.
It's kind of like... You make a statement and they're finding a way to do that.
It's in their mind. And at the end of the day, that's my big issue with identity politics at times.
I can't stop you from always feeling that one way.
I mean, to always be feeling like there's something that you're not getting, the government's got to give it to you kind of thing.
So I hear all these stories, these things.
It's one of those things where they're just driven to believe things.
owen shroyer
But that's what I'm saying. Why?
I don't even want to get into a mindset of a person that would even think about publishing this headline, both Trump and the Nazis used Christmas to promote white nationalism.
Like, what the hell are you thinking about on a daily basis that makes you want to write that story?
christopher neiweem
I think it's called Trump Derangement Syndrome, right?
I mean, it's just...
owen shroyer
The DSM-6 needs to have Trump Derangement Syndrome and liberalism on there as a mental disorder.
But it's not even real liberalism.
In fact, since I said that, this is actually the perfect tweet from Ryan Fournier.
If a liberal from 1960 showed up in 2018, they would be considered a conservative.
If a liberal from 2018 showed up in 1960, they would be considered a dangerous lunatic.
That is so spot on and I don't think people realize how realistic that actually is.
christopher neiweem
Well, you know, it's...
First of all, Ryan's a cool dude.
I know him. He's done a lot of work, and I think that, you know, one thing that Ryan has pointed out is some of these themes, you know, just catching some of these themes and seeing it and understanding it and understanding...
So since when is with reducing troops in an area, which is normally a neoconservative tenant, and many would argue has been a failure, reducing those is now a bad thing.
It's almost kind of like...
Just these political norms have shifted to such an extent that it is, you know, I mean, I saw something kind of funny somewhere.
It was kind of one of those memes where it's like, you know, for a Republican man to get any respect from the left, they've got to throw on a dress and call themselves Caitlyn, apparently.
owen shroyer
You know? But even Caitlyn Jenner gets attacked now for liking Trump.
christopher neiweem
I know. Is Caitlyn Jenner mad at Trump now?
I can never keep track of how it is sometimes.
I try not to think about it. Some of these political figures, it depends on what day they wake up.
owen shroyer
Buckle up, buckaroo!
Right. Some people laughed at that.
Others have no idea what I'm talking about.
But that's exactly it.
If somebody published this story...
Whatever president, in the 60s, both Trump and the Nazis used Christmas, or both the president of the United States and the Nazis used Christmas to promote white nationalism, Christina Mazza would be looked at as an insane person.
And rightfully so!
So, uh...
We're putting Christina Maza on Coward Watch, guys, because I'd like to get her on as a guest.
This is what we're doing now, Chris.
I don't know if you're aware of this.
So basically, from now on, when somebody publishes some just absolute lunacy like this or something about us, we invite them on.
We sit formally. And if they don't, they'll just be nailed.
So yeah, so it's fine. So you can publish, you know, you can publish how Trump and the Nazis stole Christmas to promote white nationalism.
That's fine. But we're going to call you on it, and we're going to ask you to come on here and explain your point to actually a live audience.
And most of the time these people end up...
christopher neiweem
And which city is she based in, do we know?
owen shroyer
The reporter? You can't put someone like that on a map.
They're out in space. They're nowhere in reality, Chris.
christopher neiweem
That's not fair. You know, I feel like defending your position is always a good thing.
If you can defend your position, that's a good thing.
And I think we've seen too many times, and you've seen this in the field a lot more, that sometimes folks just can't.
And there's other folks where once you nail them, they just melt down.
They weren't expecting to be discredited and have their information defunct.
owen shroyer
And we were actually talking about this during a break.
Out in the field is one thing, but it's like if you have confidence, you should never be afraid to defend yourself.
Now, that doesn't mean you're always going to be right.
That doesn't mean you're perfect.
It means you at least have a foundation for whatever it is you believe.
You were talking about Marco Rubio when Alex Jones confronted him.
unidentified
Right.
owen shroyer
And he'd all, I don't know who Alex Jones is.
christopher neiweem
Okay, be it. First of all, he was lying.
He clearly knew who he was.
And you know what I thought? My take on that, just stepping aside, was I think Marco Rubio's Kamal person should have been fired that day.
They did such a bad job.
First of all, if you're opposed to Alex Jones, respect your opponent because that's number one.
Number two... Pretending like he didn't know him was a big mistake because I think, one, he did.
And he flopped around. Right. And then if you want to be more guarded, you know, I think there was an article out there that was like 99% of senators won't talk to Alex Jones.
Ben Rucker Rubio didn't. I thought Rubio was totally dominated, totally looked downsized, and his whole thing was the freedom of speech thing.
And he wasn't acknowledging the fact that deplatforming was happening here.
And then for him to act tough, I mean, the guy, he just seems like such a wimp.
Rubio. Rubio just looks like such a little wimp and just such a phony.
I have to work in Washington.
I should leave it there. Bathhouse boy.
owen shroyer
Not my words.
unidentified
It's a name he has. I just like the deplatforming didn't work.
owen shroyer
But see, that's what I'm saying.
It's all about confidence. See, Marco Rubio is a flake.
He's a nothing. He's a hollow man.
If he had any confidence in himself, he would actually face Alex Jones and have a conversation with him.
See, if his people were smart, you're saying his people need to be fired.
If his people were smart, they would have done what Swalwell did.
Did you see how they had a fake conversation staged for him to avoid talking to reporters?
He's sitting here acting like he's talking about NBA basketball, but while he's waiting for an elevator.
Totally fake so he could avoid any real comments.
That's how real cowards deal with the media.
You pretend you're talking about something.
christopher neiweem
Well, and you know... He is a coward.
And the reason Eric Schwalwell is a coward is because I think Tucker got him pretty good on Fox News.
You do want to have the gun confiscations.
You do want to do those things.
Honestly, I would like to see a Democrat go out there and say, and I've heard Democrats tell me this behind the scenes.
They're like, I do want guns to go away.
I don't think we should have them here.
And I'm like, okay, that sounds kind of utopian.
If you could magically make the supply disappear, that'd be interesting.
But all of their sort of legislative fixes would involve...
The removal of supply, because otherwise you're still going to have what I would call the opportunity for gun crime.
Humans are capable of committing crimes.
owen shroyer
Of course, and people will die because of it.
When you disarm the population, people are going to die.
christopher neiweem
But the fake conversation, that is kind of clever, because sometimes a fake phone call can get you out of an awkward situation.
owen shroyer
Fake phone call, that's kind of old school. Fake conversation is like old school, new school.
unidentified
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The globalists are trying to set up a private corporate world government that's above the law.
If there's any opposition, if there's any independent media that can call the fact that the emperor has no clothes, that can call BS, it's game over.
But if you look at everybody else like Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, they are all beholden to the networks they're on that can be targeted.
There's only two groups in the U.S., Infowars and Matt Drudge of DrudgeReport.com, that are truly independent.
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Watch the live stream at infowars.com forward slash show.
Back inside the war room.
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owen shroyer
We're taking calls from veterans where Dennis, an Army veteran, has called in from Virginia.
unidentified
Go ahead, Dennis. Hey, Owen.
Thanks for taking my call. I enjoy your show very much.
Thanks for calling. I've got an issue with, like, Senator Schumer.
You know, I'm recently retired with the Army, 29 years and nine months, and I can't count on my hands people that I know have died in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And when someone like him says that America was never that great, I'd like to see him stand before our National Cemetery, overlooking the graves of our fallen, and say that.
owen shroyer
Boom. Dennis, you don't know this, but you just created a meme.
So I'm going to put the meme army on this right now.
You cut out an image of Chuck Schumer, or you can do Andrew Cuomo as well, because he said it.
You just cut out their image.
Which, by the way, I mean, do Cuomo and Schumer not just look like the dirtiest scoundrels?
I mean, they look like the prototypical evil villain in a movie, but I digress.
Alright, so meme army, and put this on Infocomms, we'll share it.
You cut out Chuck Schumer or Cuomo or both, and you have them standing in front of or behind the Arlington Cemetery with all the graves there, and then you have the bubble saying, America was never that great.
You make that meme go viral.
Great idea, Dennis. Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, they make me sick.
It's just such a, you know, they memorize the sacrifices of our military in this country.
owen shroyer
And then they act like they care about the military and they say, Trump's, he's the Grinch.
He didn't go visit the military on Christmas.
And then it turns out he did.
And then what did he do? How dare the military support Trump?
They should lose their jobs.
unidentified
They're crazy. And the worst part, we as taxpayers, we pay for them.
owen shroyer
Yeah, how about we stop paying them when the government shut down?
I'd be for that. Yeah.
unidentified
I like to bring back the days of Tar and Feather.
christopher neiweem
Well, Dennis, I mean, they don't like the new WWF day we're in now with President Trump because they just definitely lose the war of words.
I mean, two Chuck Schumer...
Yeah, they can't handle it.
Two Chuck Schumer stories that come to mind.
Senator Schumer was, one, when he told the president, he started off the press conference or the Oval Office discussion that turned into a press conference with the sort of, Mr.
President, the Washington Post gave you five Pinocchios.
And Trump just looked over at Vice President Pence and said, Washington Post...
But I think one story, Senator Schumer, that I was told by one of his former fundraisers is he's a prolific fundraiser.
He's good at the dialing for dollars.
I mean, he'll sit there and he'll do the legwork, which politicians are supposed to do themselves.
owen shroyer
And actually, when you first get into Congress, they make you do that for like six months.
christopher neiweem
They make you do it. Now, supposedly, he's really, and this is, I guess, to his credit, he's pretty good at it, is I've heard stories that he has been on the phone with Folks, Democrats that are suffering from, you know, they're dying of cancer.
I mean, they're at the end of their days and he calls up the phone script and they're saying things aren't so good.
And I've heard stories from his own people that, you know, he has been, I'm so sorry.
Now, if you can just contribute in this...
If you can contribute, I know anyone can...
And he gets off the phone and he gets the donation.
That's pretty good. So he does credit.
I mean, he's a great fundraiser, but the idea that he's this sympathetic guy, I mean, he is...
owen shroyer
If you can just scrape forward a couple million...
christopher neiweem
Well, and let's remember, he called the flight attendant a B-word recently.
And look, everyone's in a bad mood.
We all have a bad day. But isn't it ironic that he's sitting next to Senator Gillibrand, the female advocate of New York, the female advocate, the big star, the potential future presidential candidate, and that derogative term used at a hardworking American and a blue-collar worker...
It's all good in the hood for these elite Democrats.
So they're just another example of the phony alert of some of these political people.
So I do agree with Dennis.
owen shroyer
And I've never heard any rumors about Christine Gillibrand and Bill Clinton.
I've never heard any.
unidentified
Anything else, Dennis? Yeah, I just want to think, one of your callers said, can I get chiropractic in the VA? I'd have to disagree with that, because I've been sent.
They don't have chiropractic within the VA, but Veterans Choice Program, they will refer you outside.
You have to ask the doctor. And it's tough to take care of me.
christopher neiweem
That's a good point, and you're lucky, because it's very difficult to do that, because the VA often controls that choice and controls that mechanism to use the Choice Program, and many veterans...
Probably on the older spectrum, Dennis, don't know about the Choice Program still and have hard times activating it.
And sometimes there's disincentives.
But I'm glad to hear you're getting it.
I do think it is possible if you can kind of really understand and be that self-advocate to get the chiropractic care.
owen shroyer
So it's good to hear that you're... Has that been helpful for you, Dennis?
unidentified
Yeah, it has. They even sent me to an acupuncture.
I kind of thought that was kind of wild.
But they've been good to me.
I've worked... Go with the Mountain Home BA out of Johnson City, Tennessee.
I live about an hour and a half from there in a rural area.
But they've done excellent.
owen shroyer
Well, that's good to hear because, again, to me it's just like go with what works.
I mean, if you've got veterans saying, hey, man, this chiropractic care is helping me with my back.
I mean, you know how it is.
For training, you're hauling hundreds of pounds.
You've got to learn how to run with hundreds of pounds.
I mean, that's tough on your back.
unidentified
Dennis, what did you do in the Army? What was your MOS? My body's broken down.
It's a lot of wear and tear.
christopher neiweem
What was your job in the Army, Dennis?
unidentified
What did you do in the Army? I was a forward observer.
Okay. It's pretty much in the lines of infantry.
And then later on in my career, I got more into communications and so forth.
Kind of got out of the hardcore type stuff as I got older.
christopher neiweem
That's good stuff. I was military police, but I never did garrison, so other service members give me a hard time about how I was probably carrying them out of the bar or arresting them, but I never did that.
owen shroyer
Hey, someone's got to do that.
christopher neiweem
That's true. And then I did, I guess you'd call it combat support or EPW in Iraq.
And then, of course, the next question is when you did prisoners, were you torturing prisoners?
Which, to me... To be fair and to not joke about it, I think that that particular scandal hurt the morale and hurt our credibility probably more than anything during the Iraq era because I was there in 03.
owen shroyer
And then, I mean, you know, fair or unfair, it was used politically by the Democrats.
christopher neiweem
Big time. And I think that the...
Probably the response was wrong, too, the way it was sort of downplayed.
It's been a long time, but...
Yeah, and you know, it's great.
It's great when the veterans call in to the veterans call-in show, because I feel like the veterans...
We don't always have the best voice at VA. You know, I feel like our voice is supposed to be...
I've done this a few too many times on today's show, but the National Veteran Service organizations are becoming a little bit too pro-VA and a little bit too hack.
And... I'd like to nail a couple of the guys that work in the national offices a couple of these.
I won't nail them by name because I don't think it's useful.
But I really think they need to be listening to their members, listening to their state leaders, and really understanding these modern issues and advocating for chiropractic care at the VA, the Choice Program, and not diminishing our choices.
Because Choice and Press are the only two real accountabilities.
Maybe the president, but... Giving veterans choice and allowing them to go into the press and give stories is the only real two ways that the VA really sort of responds to criticism.
owen shroyer
Well, thank you for the call, Dennis.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
You know, we've paid.
I think we've earned that.
owen shroyer
No doubt.
christopher neiweem
Agreed, Dennis.
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owen shroyer
And another great Veterans Call-In Special.
Let Freedom ring, literally, and give us a call.
1-888-201-2244.
We've got a couple, at least one more call I want to get to here.
But I do want to bring this up because this is an issue that I think is, it's never really talked about because of a lot of different reasons.
And It's one that I think is kind of just hanging out there that just kind of sits out there.
And people kind of take a jab at it, but nobody really wants to get into the weeds with this deal.
So you have the opinion piece from the New York Times, which this is just insane, from Brett Stevens.
I almost want to put him on coward watch for this one.
In fact, let's just do it.
Donald Trump is bad for Israel, according to Brett Stevens at the New York Times.
And, of course, it's all about pulling out of Syria and all of that stuff.
Which again, though, kind of brings credence to what is the overarching issue, which a lot of people cry, why doesn't InfoWars talk about this every segment?
But then Jeb Bush tweets the story out and says, hopefully our president will reverse his decision to abandon Syria.
So it's all about, we have to stay in Syria now for Israel.
So it used to be like, oh, Assad's the bad man, and we have to get rid of Assad.
Now it's like, okay, we didn't fall for that, so we have to do it for Israel.
Okay, maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
You can have your opinion on that.
Trump is definitely not bad for Israel.
But... There's no doubt a lot of our foreign policy is dictated by the wants or needs of Israel.
And it's moments like this where you can see that that's the case.
Why are all these people now saying pulling out of Syria is bad for Israel?
Well, wait a second. Since when do I care?
Why is it in my best interest to care about what's going on in Israel?
So again, you can have the debate, but we don't even have it.
And I think it's this huge thing with our military...
Not necessarily that it's an issue in our military, but for our military to be in these situations and then to say, oh, well, we're here for Israel.
Wait a second. I believe that Israel has a right to exist.
But is it our job to make sure they exist?
I mean, and I think that it's kind of just sitting out there as an issue that nobody ever wants to talk about for a multitude of reasons.
christopher neiweem
Well, I think the problem with the Middle East is because...
I don't know if this metaphor works, but it's almost kind of like a beehive where you hope that if you can just leave it alone for a little while and it cools off, that that'll be fine.
But then there tends to be more bees and more activity.
But then if you go in and take care of a lot of stuff and then you end up getting stung a few times and then now it's reduced and now you leave.
It's like this thing where it just goes back and forth, and I think that ever since – I think Lawrence in Arabia is the book where that whole region has been post-colonial period.
There's been so many power struggles where it's like you want to get that regime in there that's helpful and democratic, but then when they reject those values, there becomes problems later.
It's just constant.
It's difficult. And I think that we've also got the incentive for there to be endless sort of conflicts.
So I feel like it is an interesting time where I think the president is – again, he campaigned.
I'm reducing some of the footprint there and reducing our constant involvement.
You know, my only thing is for the neocons, even some veterans the last couple weeks have been really tough on the president in terms of, oh, this is a sad day and all this, and it's like, okay, where is your plan?
Where is your plan?
Why aren't you writing it right now?
Because what's the plan?
Forever their plan? And I respected, and I voted for John McCain for president, but over the years, I started getting turned off by the McCain endless war plan.
It's like, you know, we need to stay the course forever, right?
For 100 years? For 150 years?
Like, so, you know, but with, again, New York Times, I mean, you know, or as I guess the president would say, New York Times, you know, again, it's just, it's got to be negative hits.
It's got to be a negative hit.
owen shroyer
It can't be. It's like, again, though, I mean.
It's like you said, so we're just going to be there forever.
What's the end goal? How do you declare victory?
Who's actually winning? And then there's the angle of fake news that they're going with with, oh my gosh, this is bad for Syria.
And all of a sudden we're supposed to be loyal to the Kurds and all of this stuff.
It's like, actually, Syria is more liberated right now Than it has been in decades.
I mean, if you look at any real reporting coming out of Syria, so it's just all twisted fake news.
And because the corporate press hates Trump so much, you can never really get a fair shake.
Let's take a quick call here from an Army vet, Shane, in Colorado.
Shane, you're our last caller on this veterans call-in special.
Let freedom ring, Shane. Is Shane there?
Okay, I guess.
All right, go ahead, Shane.
unidentified
Hey, how's it going, Owen?
owen shroyer
It's going just fine.
unidentified
Thank you for calling. Outstanding, man.
I just wanted to call and say thank you.
I'm a disabled combat vet from the Army, and what were you guys just talking about anyway?
owen shroyer
Well, we were talking about intervention in the Middle East and how we need to stop it.
unidentified
I see. I agree.
I was involved in Desert Storm, and it seems to me like ever since we got over there and that, it was pretty much like kicking a beehive.
owen shroyer
Yeah, that's exactly what you were saying.
christopher neiweem
That's interesting, Shane, because you know what?
It's interesting as recently, you know, President Bush Sr.
passed away and I was able to go in the rotunda because I live in Washington to go over there and kind of pay the final respects.
And I was thinking to myself how politically it was almost like a negative for him where it was like, He didn't go far enough, and we didn't go and solve the problem, and his son is going to be more aggressive.
I was too young to vote, obviously, for Bush Sr., but I was able to...
When you were serving in Desert Storm, I think I was probably in second grade because I remember when the first casualties were happening.
But then we look back now in history, all this time later, and it's almost kind of like the restraint It may have been the more popular way to go, and yet the restraint wasn't rewarded politically, and then now President Trump is being criticized for the restraint.
So it's interesting. It's interesting how, looking back, how maybe lessons aren't learned, or maybe, like Owen and I were just discussing, maybe the endless war thing is just what these critics want to have.
owen shroyer
Well, because who wins at war? I mean, Smedley Butler wrote the book, I think it was 1942.
I'd have to check the date on that.
War is a Racket. Who wins at these wars no matter what?
The weapons manufacturing companies and their stockholders.
They win no matter what.
And a lot of these, I think, probably are sitting in our government cheering for more war in the Middle East right now, Shane.
unidentified
I probably agree with you, man.
owen shroyer
So that's what we have to deal with.
And then brave men like you go and fight the battles and you come back wounded and you don't get the respect or the care you deserve.
unidentified
Well, I have to say the VA is getting better.
And that's all I gotta say about that.
christopher neiweem
It's getting better though. That's good to hear.
I'm glad they finally built that hospital in Denver, too, because I know there were, like, cost overruns and it was taking forever, but that is good to hear that some of the facilities are doing better and veterans are happy.
owen shroyer
That seems to be universal. Everybody seems to be saying that no matter where they're at in the United States.
Thank you so much for the call, Shane.
Thank you for your service. All right.
Now, here's some of the stuff we didn't get to.
I wish we could have. The video of, just roll B-roll of clip five.
If you haven't seen this, Alex covered it in the Alex Jones Show.
There's a transgender individual.
This is just insane. In fact, just roll it.
Just roll clip five. This is nuts.
unidentified
Excuse me, it's ma'am.
It is ma'am.
You need to settle down.
It's a ma'am. Ma'am, once again, ma'am.
I said both of you. No, you said sir.
Once again, it's ma'am.
I actually said both of you guys.
Right beforehand, you f***ing said sir.
Ha! Motherfucker!
Take it outside! If you want to call me sir again, I will show you a fucking sir!
owen shroyer
Motherfucker! All right, dump it and pull it.
Dump it and pull it. You know, so anyway, the full video you can go find, it's just, it's insane.
And look, here's the thing. I've met a lot of transgender people who are actually fans of this show and like InfoWars.
And when they see people like that, it just – they hate it because that's not how an average transgender person behaves.
That's a psychopath right there.
christopher neiweem
And this is – I'd like to talk more of this another time too.
I think, first of all, every single person deserves respect and we need all the protections in the world for folks that tend to be in a more high-risk category.
But I'm – I'm with Ben Shapiro on that topic in terms of once you start getting to a point where you want the government to dictate how you refer to someone else, that's where it starts to become a little more problematic in terms of...
It creates a lot of social uncomfortableness because you cannot...
Change your gender, and that's a fact, okay?
So, you know, I think it's nice to be...
owen shroyer
Until a man gets pregnant, I don't care what makeup they wear or put a wig on, but again, that's not even the thing here.
If you want to be a quote-unquote transgender, that's your right.
It's ma'am, it's your testosterone is pumping, and This guy in here literally has a 5 o'clock shadow, raging like a man.
If you're going to want to say you're a woman, at least behave like a woman, I guess.
But now you're sexist for saying women are supposed to behave some way.
So we got that. John Stossel did a great report, and I wanted to play it.
They spent two million dollars.
Two million dollars on a single public bathroom.
A great report from John Stossel we were not able to get to.
President Trump is threatening to cut aid to Central America.
If he doesn't get his wall, it's about time.
A new fake poll says Michelle Obama and Barack Obama are the most popular man and woman in America.
Literally fake news. They're getting ready for an Obama political run here.
And shout out to my city of St.
Louis where... Muslims and Jews had a day of service together.
Wow, the Middle East could take a note from that.
You stay classy, info warriors.
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