On Brand - Alex Jones: Russell Rides Again

Nov. 21, 2025 - On Brand

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Alex Jones: Russell Rides Again

Russell went to InfoWars studio to hang out with Alex Jones, so me and John Hastings take a look to see if the conversation is as preposterously dumb as we thought.Watch John's comedy specials! - https://youtube.com/@thejohnhastingsGo to John's website! - https://thejohnhastings.comSupport On Brand! - https://patreon.com/onbrand

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	Russell Brand is a famous rapist.
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	You can just go, hold on, but they said that.
	They said that.
	I became a Christian preempting that charges would appear from deep history.
	I went to one white party.
	What?
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	I'm a migrant right now in the United States.
	In fact, I would call myself an exile, a political exile.
	Lying probably true.
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	I feel that Christ may have had a beneficion.
	I'm the main problem.
	I'm the main problem.
	Let's go full screen on Russell.
	This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
	I'm Alworth, and every show I go through an episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand in order to dissect and debunk it.
	This week, I'm excited to be joined once more by comedian extraordinaire John Hastings.
	We will be tackling Russell's conversation with none other than Alex Jones over at Infowars Studios.
	And it's about as ridiculous as you'd expect.
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	And by traumas, I very much mean the ones he's inflicting on us as the audience.
	But before all that, let's get into this week's show.
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	i have had a child they are currently they are sleeping for the next nine more minutes We are going to talk about a person that will never meet my child, Russell Brand.
	I mean, let's fucking hope not.
	I really also hope the other.
	Can I talk about the do I know the other?
	I know what we're discussing.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Here's who I definitely don't want my kid to meet.
	Alex Jones.
	I, though, really want to meet Alex Jones.
	I would love to yell at Alex Jones.
	Because I think he would listen to me because I am a tall white.
	Like, I am a real—I also have an InfoWars face.
	You know what I mean?
	Like I have, yeah.
	You could slip in under the radar for sure.
	Absolutely.
	Whereas like, I feel like I'm too, you know, I've got the purple hair.
	I've got the fucking, you know, nail polish.
	He'd see me coming a mile away.
	Yeah, you definitely have.
	Yeah.
	Yes, I'm wearing velvet kind of vibes.
	You know what I mean?
	Love it.
	Yeah, like I'm dressed like one of the characters from Hamilton in my off time, you know.
	Yeah, And you didn't know that you were dressed as one of the characters from Hamilton.
	This is just what you want to wear.
	How I am.
	You know, I'm a B character from what we do in the shadows.
	So, yeah, I was going to ask, like, I know you're pretty familiar with the general sphere that Russell exists in, but I'm guessing you are also pretty acutely familiar with Alex Jones.
	Way too familiar with Alex Jones.
	I, I, speaking earlier in the Patreons may know, uh, or that was an Andrew Tay, I can't remember when we mentioned it, but I had a huge period of time in college where I like love, I really got into Alex Jones.
	I was listening to him.
	I like loose change is a big vector for the recruitment of people towards Alex Jones' influence.
	I was definitely one of those people, and I grew up a little bit.
	I literally was at a house party, and there were two people starting to be structural engineers, and we got hammered drunk.
	They explained to me a bunch of things like, well, jet fuel can't melt steel.
	And they're like, sure can.
	Yeah, it can.
	Like a heat source at a certain point will be hot enough to melt anything, especially if it's a badly constructed building by the mafia that just had a jet plane flown into it at full speed.
	And I was like, you know, when you say it like that, and it's like, there's like a bunch of physics things that, like, when you put it on, yeah, no, I know way too much about Alex Jones.
	Yeah, yeah, it's that concept of like, it doesn't even need to melt.
	It just got hot enough to become the consistency of Play-Doh, and that's not enough to support the weight on top of it.
	And there we go, down it goes.
	He said no handcaking.
	What about Building Seven?
	What about Building Seven?
	Because the footage you're referring to is one specifically edited article that was edited specifically for Jesse Ventura's show Conspiracy Theory, which I'm a fader is a phenomenal watch.
	Don't fucking get me wrong.
	But let's.
	He's entertaining.
	He's entertaining.
	You can't base your worldview on Jesse the body Ventura.
	If you did, I would.
	If you could, I would.
	Yeah, I mean, it sounds a lot more fun than what we have to do.
	You know, I understand the appeal.
	So, so let's get into it.
	The first clip we have, it's a few minutes into the his jacket matches his cup.
	Russell is wearing his bathrobe from the Marriott Hotel that he stayed at.
	No, he's not.
	Is that what he's doing?
	What is he wearing?
	Yes, he is.
	Oh, no.
	They've done discovery for this case.
	I don't know if you have discovery in the UK, but let's pretend you do for my point.
	This is a gentleman who realizes that chickens don't come home to roost.
	If you're wearing a bathrobe on Alex Jones, you're guilty.
	I don't know how to tell you this.
	Yeah, he's wearing a bathrobe, a crucifix, and then I think silk shorts, I think, that we'll see in a bit.
	This is really the look of someone who has just done a bunch of blow.
	Like, this is that's a real crimes.
	Al, I don't know what part of Wales you live in, but doing a bunch of blow is a bunch of individual crimes.
	Purchasing of said illegal substance, the ingesting of said yeah, I suppose.
	Is the ingestion illegal?
	I think it's just the purchase that's illegal.
	It depends on which country.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I believe in America.
	America ingestion is very illegal.
	And may I just say this to all the coppers out there?
	Try and catch me.
	I was going to say, I am coked up to the gills.
	I can run.
	Who wants to listen to me talk?
	Go ahead.
	So this was a more than two-hour conversation between these two.
	And we're going to come in a few minutes into it because at the top of it, Alex rattles off some headlines that he never gets back to discussing.
	Oh, my God.
	He's got the Bible.
	Yes, Russell has a Bible with him.
	He did at one point do a Bible reading, which we're not going to cover.
	He also did a three-minute prayer and then another two-minute prayer.
	We're not going to cover either of those either.
	Sounds like someone that would call God daddy.
	Daddy?
	I can see it.
	I can see it.
	But we're going to start with the traditional little bit of ass kissing between these two.
	Russell Brand, RussellBrand.com, Rusty Rockets on X, one of the top talk show hosts in the world.
	Shovel Damn.
	I'm really grateful to be here with you.
	And it kind of feels like a pilgrimage to be in this hallowed and sacred space with you, Alex Jones, a man so extraordinary that I think initially people didn't know how to categorize you.
	Now I do.
	Since coming to Christ, I've understood what your role is in the culture, that you are an early prophesier.
	And, you know, you know who prophesies, Alex.
	You know who does that work.
	And I suppose because we live in such an extraordinary, ultra-rational but super dumb culture, people don't know how to understand someone that communicates like you, that sees that speaks with passion.
	I don't know what this new dog whistle is.
	I don't even know if it's a dog whistle, but you're hearing this pop up a lot with this ultra-rational society.
	I don't know what that is, but that is like, I think that's their new cultural Marxist move.
	Because they're also like, here's the problem in the post-Zoron Mandani world is that everyone on that side knows we can't actually go after socialists too much now because we've now looked at the data and like young people are looking that up and they are like, yo, can we get some of this shit?
	Because this is the same thing.
	That sounds great.
	That sounds good.
	Yeah, it's a tip that Russell's been on for a while.
	Like the rationalism specifically to him, he believes that rationalism as tied to secularism has been the downfall of humanity, basically.
	That's where he's coming from.
	I'm going to beat up Joseph Campbell.
	I don't know how that motherfucker ties into this, but it always goes back to motherfucking Joseph Campbell.
	He's in there somewhere.
	In his stupid categorization of myth.
	He's in there somewhere.
	Let's finish the game.
	That isn't perfect because you're flesh, but you are a real great man.
	You've done really, really great things.
	And I hope, in spite of the amount of attacks you endure, that you feel peaceful and held and loved because you do a lot and you're churning a lot of energy.
	So thank you for having me here.
	I think you're really great.
	Well, thank you.
	Oh, Russell.
	I've followed you very closely and have loved your work.
	Yeah, of course he has.
	Yeah.
	Get him in Greek.
	Yeah, right.
	It's like I liked a couple of movies.
	I've forgotten Sarah Marshall.
	I've forgotten her several times.
	Yeah.
	So there are a few things at play to note during this interview.
	Like a couple of people have kind of tried to claim that there's a bit of tension between them throughout and that they kind of hate each other.
	And I have to very much disagree.
	Reason being, like, if you don't know Russell very well, it's probably quite easy to not necessarily know what you're looking at with him.
	I mean, look at him.
	But the first thing to note is that Russell fucking loves Alex Jones.
	Like he never shuts up about him.
	A good few times a week, he will bring up Alex Jones.
	And it's partly because long ago, Russell went through what seems to be the age-old tradition of doing lots of drugs and listening to Alex Jones.
	You know, he was a bit of influence.
	not knock it until you've tried it as someone who used to love like i don't know if you've ever put weed in a cocaine baggie shook that up and listen to alex jones on an ipod while biking through montreal quebec canada in the middle of the summer But let me tell you this right now.
	It's good shit.
	It's good.
	It's real good.
	Sounds interesting.
	Oh, you think you're being chased by the cops?
	I got news for you.
	Like, you get, you go deep, bro.
	You get real fit.
	Real fit.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'll never forget coming home and saying to my roommate who was on something else, hey, I think the cops are chasing me.
	And here's how you know that she was also going through stuff.
	She didn't go, you're crazy.
	She went, all right, we better do something about that.
	And then we turned on all the lights in the house.
	Because that way they think a family will live there.
	Yes, that's exactly how that works.
	That's 100%.
	The more lights, the more people live there.
	That's exactly it.
	Oh, God damn.
	So, yeah, Russell will regularly cite Alex Jones and David Icke as being two of his biggest influences.
	I got to tell you, David Icke, out of this, just a sidebar, this is my conspiracy knowledge.
	Alex Jones is really fucked up by backing Trump and Elon Musk.
	It's basically completely discredited.
	The probable reason that Russell Brand is here is because Alex Jones has just launched on Rumble.
	He is not getting the numbers that he should be getting on that platform.
	And it's because he came onto it too late, all that sort of stuff.
	On X, the numbers can't be trusted.
	It's clearly inflated.
	David Icke is out of his fucking mind and clearly is both a schizophrenic and a grifter, which, but he has played this down the fucking bare, like he has played it down the middle so good, which was he was after Elon Musk early and often.
	He's been after Trump.
	So David Icke has been able to really capture sort of that the conspiracy left that emerged in COVID are all now being converted over to David Icke's way of thinking, which is, let's be honest, is it's really bad.
	That's bad.
	That's really bad.
	It's very bad.
	Occasionally deeply entertaining, but ultimately very bad.
	I mean, yeah, it's so crazy now.
	I have a few friends that have sort of walked back a bit from that.
	And like one of them was like really into David Icke for a second.
	And I'm like, what made you kind of be like, this isn't for me?
	And he was like, when I realized I genuinely believed people could be lizards.
	And I was like, wait, how does that work?
	And I was like, okay, all right.
	Party.
	Walk me through.
	Yeah.
	And he's like, it's one of those ones where I'm like, I like that that's how far down it took for you.
	He's like, wait, how would that work, though?
	Yeah, like, is it a human suit?
	Like, is it that situation?
	You've 100% gotten what got.
	He was like, so it's a human suit or can they like morph?
	And he realized that like David Icke kind of goes back and forth on the logistics of it.
	And he was like, you would know that if you'd uncover that.
	That's the thing you would know.
	And I was like, surely.
	It nuts the threads we pull, the things that cause like, oh, shit.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I will say, you know, he does have a compelling case with King Charles.
	Like, every time I look at the man, I'm like, yeah, reptile.
	Yeah, you know, I can see it.
	I could see it.
	That's just inbreeding.
	Well, his parents were cousins.
	I don't know what to tell.
	Like, can we just stop?
	You're all hearing zebras when it's a horse, everybody.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	His mom and dad had the same grandparents.
	That's what happens.
	Like, oh, he's got giant sausage figures.
	Yeah, he only has one side of his family.
	I don't know what newsletter.
	It's not going well for him.
	I'm lucky that Harry was born with a face.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, yeah, thank God that Diana Shagnergared.
	Oh, God.
	So, yeah, Russell, Russell loves the mythology surrounding Alex Jones, like the meme version of him as well.
	Oh, the Tucker Carlson version of Alex Jones.
	Yeah, basically, like he genuinely seems to believe that Alex says a bunch of crazy shit, but is often correct.
	Hence him regularly describing Alex as a prophet and a shaman.
	And where this falls at odds is that Russell is very, very credulous and will believe most things, but he's not necessarily stupid.
	So he's able to tell at least some of what Alex says is bullshit.
	And so occasionally there will be little moments of him treating Alex like the crazy guy from down the pub, you know?
	The guy who's not going to be able to do it.
	Imagine you're Russell Brandon.
	You still be able to be like, at least I'm not this fucking guy.
	That's fucking weird.
	I know I'm wearing a robe holding a Bible, but at least I'm not wearing a fucking Rolex and looking like I own a bunch of time shares in a part of the world no one wants to go to.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, for Russell, he's like, well, you know, I fell into this as kind of a last resort option.
	You had to work to get here.
	That's a different situation.
	Hey, Alex, I'm here because I'm a prolific sexual assaulter.
	What happened to you?
	Oh, this is just your dream?
	Oh, that's even crazier.
	Well, my daddy put me on the radio because I asked him to, and therefore, and it's, it's, yeah, it's a very different situation for Alex.
	And only one of them is one and a half billion dollars in debt.
	And as for how Alex feels about Russell, I'm less of an expert on him comparatively, but they seem to have very compatible worldviews.
	Believe it or not, are only a year and a half apart in age.
	Russell's 50, Alex is 51.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's veganism v cigars right there.
	They don't either.
	What's weird?
	Okay, so Ozempic, Alex.
	Okay, who looks actually worse, though?
	It's a good question.
	Russell, Russell has aged quite a bit over the last couple of years, I feel.
	Like, I think things have taken their toll on him.
	And Alex kind of went for a period of looking real rough and then went through the Azempic and the fitness and everything.
	And now he's off, I think, the Azempic again.
	But he's maintaining a relative physique.
	So, you know, it's difficult.
	It's difficult.
	It is so funny watching Ozempic take hold in our culture because it's the celebrities that deny it.
	I want to be like, shut the fuck up.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Mindy Kaling can eat my whole asshole with her.
	Like, I just walk now.
	Yeah.
	Walk to the pharmacy to get Ozempic.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah.
	And like, it's fine if that's what you want to, that's fine.
	Just don't lie to me about it.
	You know, that's what you want to do.
	But yeah, so they're only a year and a half apart in age.
	So like, you know, similar in that regard.
	And also, Alex Jones, if nothing else, is an eternal star fucker.
	You know, Alex Jones may be Alex Jones, but Russell Brand is more famous than Alex has been or ever will be.
	And now he's also useful to Alex, which is fucking perfect.
	Do you think that Alex Jones asked about Katy Perry's hoo-has?
	Because I am guaranteeing it.
	I am guaranteeing that Russell, before Russell Brand sat down, you saw Katy Perry naked.
	Like it happened immediately.
	Like, also in that way, like, I am sure Russell was kind of weird.
	He's like, hey, man, I'm supposed to be Christian now.
	So, like.
	Yeah, I did.
	It wouldn't shock me.
	Like, so this is the fourth time that they've had a conversation in the last couple of years, like one that's recorded anyway.
	So, like, it wouldn't surprise me if that's happened at some point.
	But the very first time they had a conversation was back in 2013 when Russell was going through his revolution phase.
	That was when they first, you know, had a thing after Russell did a comedy gig in Texas.
	Holy shit, he went on the show.
	Yeah, back in 2013.
	Yeah, yeah, he was interviewed in an alleyway.
	It's a really boring interview, unfortunately.
	Oh, it's one of those, oh, the Alex Jones ambush a celebrity who happens to be in Austin.
	Well, I think Russell was up for it, again, because he loves Alex Jones, but it was just a lot of Russell being like, yeah, you know, we need to overthrow the system, you know, and I'm like, oh, fucking.
	It was the most insufferable period of his career, I think.
	You know, I'll take modern day Russell over the fucking pretense of him back in 2013 and 14.
	I'm always going to be the guy who dressed up like Osama bin Laden the day after 9-11 guy.
	That's the Russell that I live and die by.
	I try not to hold that.
	He was on a lot of drugs at the time.
	And so I'm like, I'm trying not to hold.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I feel like that seems like the best Russell.
	The best version of Russell is on the horse.
	You know what I'm saying?
	What's notable is that all of the allegations against him came after he got sober as well and went through rehab.
	And I'm like, yeah, maybe the drugs were better.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Who's to say this is the best version of you?
	So the first hour of the show was a little bit dry and very stupid, but we're going to cover a few parts of it anyway.
	Beginning with a point that Russell and Alex can really agree on.
	You can't get off drugs and get into recovery without recognizing that you need a personal relationship with God.
	My reluctance to embrace Christ was that I thought that Jesus Christ and Christianity were just another method and modality of control, that they were ultimately about conformity.
	The church in my country is very different from the church in yours.
	Yeah, yeah, primarily Anglican.
	Of course, there's Catholicism and a variety of denominations, but culturally the church feels like I've met amazing Christians in the UK.
	But what I mean to say is its broad and general function seems to be control.
	Now, there's no one who's a better expert in.
	Quasi-state run.
	Yeah.
	Well, Church of England is state-run.
	Well, if you think about it, Church of England, it's like it suggests that it's somehow inferior to England in the running order.
	Church of England.
	It's beneath England.
	And I think probably I really would love to know your reason.
	I fucking hate this rivalry.
	This is the only thing before us might be a reinstating of Christ's position.
	Below death.
	That nation is just nation under God, not nation that deploys and utilizes God for its okay.
	So what he was saying at the end, though, it was, you know, a reinstating of Christ on the throne, that it should be a nation under God, because both Russell and Alex are pretty hell-bent on living in a Christian theocracy, which we'll get into a little bit more later.
	I mean, the argument technically could be made that the UK sh is a is one.
	Yes.
	It is one.
	And it is.
	There's a huge argument against that in the US because the US was literally set up in retaliation and rejection of one.
	Like under God, in God we trust was added in America in the 19, let's say together, 50s to combat community.
	Like none of that stuff was there before.
	And it was all just to combat godless communism.
	Unfortunately, in the UK, you can't actually be like, no, like as a technical matter, the royal family is divinely chosen as God's favorite English people.
	Oh, yeah, it's intertwined with our legal system.
	We are constitutionally, legally a Christian country.
	We are technically a theocratic country in that regard.
	And yet, America is way more obsessed with Christianity than we are, I think, is where his confusion is.
	Oh, well, we skipped that pesky Reformation.
	Listen.
	Well, this is it, right?
	So yeah, you've got the fucking stupidity of believing that because it's the church of England, that therefore means the church itself is inferior to the country.
	I fucking hate that shit.
	Do you understand as a stand-up comedian how much I've had to sit through of that shit?
	I'm just like, of just like, be funny.
	B, exist as?
	Am I?
	I'm here.
	Define B.
	No, we're getting into Jordan Peterson territory there.
	What is, is, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	It's like, you know, we've all heard of Leonardo da Vinci, and all of us are like, yeah, he was great and all, but actually, he's inferior to the region of Vinci in Italy.
	Yeah, that's that's it's not just where the thing is from.
	Um, it's absolute dip shittery.
	Um, Al worth, worth value, bank, al bank, give me money, you owe me ten dollars.
	Yep, I owe everyone ten dollars.
	That is that is the state of things.
	It's been a tough life.
	Um, I began to think about it.
	You know, technically, they're causing climate change.
	Like these two people, by them talking, emitting emissions, breathing, and using up space, the earth is slightly closer to death so that these two men could not listen to each other and then talk at, just say whatever they want in the same room.
	That's the other thing to note.
	They are not listening to each other.
	Hit it.
	Watch this.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	There are moments where it improves, but there is a lot of interrupting that happens during this time.
	Stay run.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And yeah, for the record, the Church of England isn't state-run, but because they're intertwined with our constitution, and we are legally a Christian country with King Charles as the head of the church.
	So like there is a little push and pull between the Church of England and Parliament, namely that the Church can't go making any drastic changes to things without approval from Parliament, specifically because it would put us in quite the interesting legal pickle if the church suddenly decided to try and bring back stoning sinners to death or something.
	You know, that would put us in a bit of a crisis.
	So everything has to be run through Parliament just in case.
	No, everyone, don't worry.
	The church has pulled some moves.
	There was the attempted coup on Harold Wilson.
	And we don't want to get into a little period of time we all like to call the troubles, but whoopity whoopity.
	Oh boy, boy, things things got interesting for a century.
	Only, I gotta say this.
	Only the English could have a religious civil war for 30 years and no one be aware of it.
	Like, I am not pro it, but like only English people could, like, you could nuke London and the next day people would be like, what?
	No, that was never here.
	We didn't do that.
	That didn't exist.
	Because everyone just keeps going as normal.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There was a tube.
	There was a river.
	The whole thing.
	Nah.
	Manchester.
	Yeah, I feel like the Irish noticed it a lot more than the English did.
	And I got to tell you, the English do not appreciate that the Irish keep raising it.
	Like, I really felt like all the stuff that was happening to kneecap.
	Like, they were saying Gaza, but what they're meaning were like, we just don't like that you're bringing it up, okay?
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Ian Paisley's dead.
	Martin McGuinness is dead.
	Jerry Adams is kind of weird and annoying in interviews now.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, you can tell they look at kneecap and they're just like, whatever this is, we don't like it.
	So no.
	And all of our church bullshit, in case anyone was wondering, that's thanks to 500 years ago, Henry VIII wanting to fuck around some more and get a divorce.
	Before That we were a Catholic country, but Catholicism doesn't allow divorce, so he was like, nah, fuck that.
	And so we had the whole religious reformation and a lot of conflict and a lot of death, which then birthed the Anglican Church, which I'm no theologian, but it's basically the light version of Catholicism anyway, with a few extra, like, you know, bits added on.
	Like, okay, okay.
	It was because the guy wanted to fuck some more and couldn't get away with beheading another one, you know?
	Like, like, and then you mix in a variety of sort of civil wars in the actual English Civil War.
	And then you get all these just various weird religious, either Catholic, Catholic sects or semi-Anglican sects that were influenced by Martin Luther and fucking Calvin, which is how you get fucking Guy Fawkes and you get the Puritans that they basically, at a certain point, they're just like, hey, you want to get on this boat and go to America?
	Because you're fucking pissing us off.
	Okay, thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	We're going to have the Renaissance.
	You're all really annoying.
	Get the fuck out of here and go over there.
	And thus, we want to look at paintings of fat girls.
	And we, and you're not going to let us with your fucking buckles.
	Buckles are for your waist, not your hat.
	Get on the boat.
	Your hat or well, and shoes.
	Yeah, maybe sometimes, but mostly no.
	Ah, dear.
	Anywho, from a point of agreement, we move to a point of conflict because Alex decides to tell a story about Russell that would appear to be total bullshit.
	And then I'm going to Tucker show like eight months ago in Boca Grande, and I get dropped off by the drivers has to pick me up at the airport 50 miles away.
	And I just walk into where I'm at this little hotel.
	And this old man comes up and he says, you know, Russell Brand goes, oh, Alex, I love you, blah, blah, blah.
	I'm a Catholic, blah, blah, blah.
	Let me give you a rosary thing and all this.
	He goes, you know, I was here a few years ago when he had his conversion and he was not having a breakdown, like a spiritual experience out on the water in his clothes.
	And I just felt led by God to go to him and talk to him about Christ and God.
	And then he accepted Christ right there.
	I don't think the old man was lying.
	I don't know if anybody knows the story.
	Maybe it was made up.
	But then I talked to locals and I talked to Tucker and he'd heard about it from them that actually happened.
	So is that a true story?
	I don't remember being in the water in my clothes, but it's the sort of thing I might have done.
	And I was at Boca Grande visiting Tucker.
	You are in a bathrobe right now.
	I'm in a bathrobe right now.
	Yeah, you're right.
	So did you have your main conversion on Boca Grande?
	No, what happened was, is, look, I can understand why people would be cynical about anything.
	Look at the world that we occupy.
	What information can you trust?
	The old man said you were, he started talking to me for a few hours.
	You're sorry about the old man.
	Like this old man.
	I don't know about this old man.
	It's like they're in two different plays.
	Like it's literally like that is what's so interesting is one of them was like, here, I'm gonna, I'm gonna set you up to talk about it this way.
	And then the other one just went, no.
	Like it's so fucking bad.
	Yeah, it's sort of a dystopian version of waiting for Godo in its own way.
	So the background you need to understand about why Alex Jones is bringing up Tucker is it's.
	Tucker is Alex Jones essentially is being um Rush Limbaugh, in that everyone Rush Limbaugh was unique and then literally the right-wing media sphere grew up around him and then everyone stole his shtick and then no one gave a shit.
	Alex Jones was the furthest extreme of a Rush Limbaugh.
	Everyone is doing Alex Jones now and so he's constantly trying to like, intimate that like Tucker, like and, and he's constantly sidling up to Tucker in this sort of like.
	I Tucker is now me, I am the Ben Kenobi to Tucker's um Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader, which is why he just brings up like, did you notice how he for no reason says Tucker Carlson four times in that goddamn thing?
	Well, it's just like, hey, this is weird, man.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	And like, again, the starfuckery and Tucker has the biggest numbers in their little sphere.
	So they're like, right, let's gravitate towards that.
	Russell, Russell used to be much more starfuckery about Tucker.
	And he's less so since going on tour with him, I think.
	I wonder what happened on that tour.
	I mean, I covered some of it.
	None of it was good.
	None of it's going to be good, man.
	Like, I got news for you.
	Yeah, that was not fun.
	So in that clip, Alex keeps trying to claim that he knows about Russell's alleged conversion story from this old man who lives near Tucker Carlson's place in Boca Grande, where Russell supposedly wandered into the water and had a coming to Christ moment and like a bit of a breakdown.
	Now, Alex is trying to glom onto this story.
	That's super rude, firstly because the whole spiritual awakening moment is supposed to be a big deal and very private and whatever.
	But also because it's just a lie he apparently heard from this old dude and Tucker Carlson.
	Hence Russell being like, I don't know about this old man.
	And the clip highlights a couple of things.
	Firstly, Alex Jones being a bit of a dick to try and get Russell to sign on to this narrative that he's built or at least try and draw the conversion story out of him.
	But secondly, the problem is Russell doesn't actually have a moment of spiritual awakening that he can refer to.
	There is no specific event or at least not one he's decided to share with the class.
	And my guess is it has something to do with the fact that Russell has been at least partway Christian since 2017, the year after he went to study religions of the world in a university in London.
	Since then, there are many instances of him discussing his return to Christianity and how it was right for him.
	And none of this really made headlines anywhere except for the Christian news outlets specifically.
	Nobody else really gave a shit or paid any attention.
	And so like, crucially, he wouldn't go as far as saying that kind of stuff out loud with his own audience at that time because being an out-and-out Christian wouldn't have fit his brand.
	Because at that time, he was still the crunchy granola-type revolutionary spouting off about anarcho-syndicalism between the meditations he was leading before having unnerving conversations with people trying to sell a bridge to his audience.
	And so, yeah, we end up in this situation where he doesn't actually have one.
	And then came the pandemic and then the anti-vax stuff and Stay Free with Russell Brand and the YouTube strikes and moving to Rumble and then the allegations.
	And then, boy, howdy, did it seem like a good time to get baptized in the River Thames by bear grills?
	You know?
	It is.
	That part is the craziest part.
	Yeah, it's a real cap on it.
	That it's bear grills, where you're like, because I remember seeing the photo and I remember thinking, is that bear grills?
	And then to have it confirmed made it so much weirder.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, what's funny is that he had to resign his position as the head honcho of the Boy Scouts of the UK because of that.
	He had to step down because of the association with Russell Brand.
	They were like, nah, this is not a good one.
	Yeah, you're touching a toucher and we don't want that to take away.
	Yes.
	Like, the Boy Scouts already has a troubled reputation.
	We don't need Russell Brand associating with this.
	I got to tell you, the Boy Scouts was one of those ones when it was discovered that the Boy Scouts of America was a Catholic church-esque style front for assault of children.
	I was one.
	I felt like my grandmother when she found out about the Catholic Church when I was literally like, what?
	Those people with the little shorts who just want to hang out with kids in the woods?
	What are you talking about that they turned out to be sus?
	What do you mean they want to fuck the kids?
	What do you think?
	Like I was walking around like up is down, black is white, and it's like, no, it's not, man.
	This makes all the sense in the fucking world.
	Are you mental?
	Yeah, just look at it on its face, and it makes complete sense straight away.
	Have you ever existed on the earth?
	Yeah.
	Well, then you should have expected this, you dolt.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	Oh, God.
	In any case, this key piece of mythology around Russell's conversion is missing in action because it doesn't fit the story he's tried to tell.
	And if he said, well, actually, I've been Christian for about eight years, it just doesn't have the same soul on the road to Damascus type of ring to it.
	See, this way he's saved and redeemed.
	And the other way, he's just a belland who's been lying to his audience for the better part of a decade.
	So he's got to keep up the whole, yeah, let's not talk about that.
	And he also won't sign on to a denomination of Christianity yet either.
	I was going to say, is he denominational or not?
	No, he's still in like what I like to call he's a Kenneth from 30 rock Christian.
	Oh, we haven't been Baptists for weeks.
	Yeah, he, I mean, I'm 99.9% sure that he was baptized by an Anglican.
	Bear Grylls is an Anglican.
	There was a priest on that riverbank who I'm pretty, which I'm, I don't know, I'm fuzzy about the details, but I'm pretty sure that kind of makes you Anglican.
	But I guess, you know, you can decide.
	I don't want to be this guy, but allow me to drop this clanger.
	As someone who was baptized in the Anglican church, that is how that works.
	Like if you go into an Anglican building and you are baptized by an Anglican priest during an Anglican service, you don't turn out to be Muslim.
	Like it's not, it's not like the sorting hat at Hogwarts.
	Like it's not like.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's not like a blank slate of generic Christianity and then you get to choose your path.
	It's like, no, you've picked the thing and then you go with it.
	He's a Scientologist.
	I mean, he would fit in.
	You know, he would make friends.
	But yeah, we're still, the jury's still out on that one thus far.
	You know, he's had some flirtations with Catholicism and everything else.
	But I don't know.
	I don't think he's going to pick because this way he gets to keep more people and nobody fights him about which denomination he is.
	I think it's so funny that the online Christian movement that is trying to attempt a Christian fascist theocracy within the United States.
	I like it's still so funny that they can't agree on which denominations are pure, which type of theocracy it's going to be.
	Like it's like it's Baptists v Catholics.
	And I don't want to be this guy.
	But as a callback to the troubles, you want to do this?
	Because let me tell you, in terms of stupid religious struggles, Catholics are going to fucking go.
	I got news for you.
	They will go.
	They've been going.
	Let's go.
	Yeah, the people who, by definition, self-flagellate on a regular basis, they're going to be tough to fight.
	Like, that's just that.
	God.
	So the next clip we have is one where I was truly worried for the fate of this two-hour conversation.
	When you're in Hollywood and you're making a bunch of money and you're having a load of sex and everyone's telling you you are fantastic, you don't realize that you're an appointed voice of the system.
	It becomes very obvious with someone like Yuval Noah Harari, the writer of Sapiens, who probably is a legit guy, but there's a reason that his books are Barack Obama's favorite books because those books are telling you you don't have a chance.
	You don't have a future.
	AI has already...
	You don't have free will.
	Wow.
	Yeah, therefore you're not got Holy Spirit.
	If you don't have souls, it wasn't.
	The same thing is free will is will to build what we want.
	They're telling you're a robot.
	No, we're not.
	Yes, that's right.
	If you can reduce this to a kind of a biological robot, then you can manipulate and maneuver people into anything you want.
	But if each of us is a participant in divinity, if each of us bears the image of the Lord, his hallmark and his signature, if all of us are within his covenant and covered by his blood, then the highest authority is not governmental authority or cultural authority or global bureaucracy or the WEF or WHO or all of those institutions, Alex, that you were paramount in teaching people we could not rely on on trust.
	All of those things are instruments of Lucifer.
	Those are the counterfeit lights.
	Those are the systems of control.
	And I know that I'm saying this on your no, no, no, no, it's true, but that's why it says in Revelation they worship the image of the beast.
	It's a counterfeit of God.
	We aren't God, but we are an image of God, a reflection.
	We are the fractal of God, the potential of God, connected to God, and that's what we have to recognize.
	It's very interesting because you're seeing two different griffs happening simultaneously.
	A also his use of, and we are draped in the blood of Jesus, that is specifically appealing to very certain sects of Christianity, which is not Anglican or specifically not Anglican.
	The Anglicans of God, you are not specifically draped in the blood of Jesus.
	That gets into also very extreme, like pre-Vatican II Catholicism and then a bunch of weird evangelicals.
	And then the problem that Alex Jones has is Alex Jones, I think he's more aware that his audience is more Groiper neo-Nazi than Christian fascist.
	So they're also not going to like this, which is how he then tries to scale it back over to the they're trying to port and create a fake God who is trying to create the fake God, the fake chosen people of God.
	Guess who that was going to be?
	Whoa.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it's a really interesting Grift meets Griff, but they can't say like, hey, man, stop shitting on my parade.
	It's like, well, let's both lie to some rubes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like Russell has clearly been taking his cues from like the evangelicals in Florida, you know, where he's been living for a while now.
	You know, like that's, that's clearly, that's clearly where he's he's been taking his cues from recently.
	So is he officially living in Florida?
	Has that been confoined?
	Oh, yeah, it has been since I think the official technical legal move date was like October 4th, I think last year.
	Like, so, so, yeah, he's been out there a while.
	Yeah, he properly, properly.
	So, he gave up broadcasting from that pub and pissing off that town.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	He gave up the pub in Piss Hill.
	I think, I can't remember whether it was going up for sale or not.
	It might have been, um, or whether he's still got it.
	I'm not sure.
	Um, yeah, yeah, well, it's it's it's pishel officially.
	It's P-I-S-Hill, and I'm like, that's Piss Hill.
	I'm sorry.
	Um, you know, it's yeah, it's a little village in Oxfordshire.
	Um, but uh, but yeah, no, he's he's been over in Florida for quite some time.
	Um, up uh, ah, shit, I can never uh destin, destined Florida, up in the north, um, kind of uh quadrant, um, apparently just down the road from Laura Luma.
	Um, good for them, I guess.
	Um, yeah, yeah.
	Uh, so what kind of struck me most about this clip was just like, you know, kind of religious deviations aside, just how fucking easy it is.
	Like, everything bad is Luciferian, and we the good guys, we're all fractals of God, but underneath it, like, there's no substance, no fucking politics, no nothing.
	Like, a year and a half ago, pre-baptism, this conversation would have had to have at least some meat on the bone, something, anything to do with current politics instead, because it's now two Christians having a chat.
	The best we get is everything being satanic, which, you know, leans into Alex Jones's brand anyway, and then Russell trying to reference Barack Obama's favorite books.
	That's such an interesting maneuver because basically, like Sapiens, Sapiens just sounds like a book about evolution, but it's just a history of it's just a non-religious view of history and also obviously points towards evolution, which is a big bugbear within the new Christian movement.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Like, I have some issues with some of Yuval Noah Harari's takes, but like the end at the end of Sapiens, he's talking about the potential end of humanity through like genetic engineering and immortality and stuff, but it isn't an endorsement of those things.
	It's a warning.
	Like, that's the point.
	And Russell knows that because he fucking interviewed Yuval Noah Harari live on stage back in 2018.
	Like, he knows this.
	He's just sure, but it's again, like, it's also just like, why does it matter?
	It's Barack Obama has not been in power for over for a decade, almost a decade.
	And like, what are you talking about?
	The reason, again, why you have to bring him up is state influence.
	You know, it's just like, yeah, it's interesting that you'd no longer, it used to be Hillary.
	Now it's Barack Abain.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're just, you know, we're splashing around in some make-em-ups and everything being satanic.
	And it's not even the fun, like, satanic panic sort of way.
	You know, it's very rare that I've heard someone describe something as Luciferian this often and still manage to be so fucking boring about it.
	You know, I'm like, God, at least, you know, give me some of that preacher energy.
	Give me something.
	I prefer when they see Malthusian.
	Yes, more interesting.
	More interesting.
	Thankfully, we do get some other demon references throughout this.
	So hopefully it'll pick up a little bit.
	And from here, we move on to a question from Russell that completely blindsides Alex.
	It shouldn't have.
	This question should be a fucking slam dunk, but for some reason, in this moment, it totally derails him.
	How much do you pray, Alex?
	You pray a lot, mate.
	Not enough.
	I can tell from that inhalation.
	No, no.
	You're too busy selling methylene blue.
	Buy this methylene blue.
	El Ange your frog.
	Every amphibian around here will be a virile, heterosexual frog.
	There will be widows leading from.
	I was trying to answer your question.
	Sorry, sorry.
	I was just showing off.
	I just thought, you know, keep the comedy rocking.
	No, I have to.
	It's a comedy show.
	Because I'm enjoying being with you.
	It's a big question you asked.
	So it's hard to answer.
	I am constantly in prayer.
	Yeah.
	So my problem is I have to, like, when I have to pull out into the third dimension, instead of constantly.
	So to me, I don't verbally pray.
	I'm like constantly jacked in.
	Yeah, I know.
	Oh my God.
	You don't know this.
	I pause.
	I need to explain something to your audience.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So Alex Jones's worldview is the following.
	We are transdimensional beings that contain soul energy and other globalist demons are sucking that energy out slowly as a power source.
	But he is God's chosen vessel on earth and he is constantly in communication with God.
	And how he has proven that is he wakes up in the night and he always knows what time it is.
	So when he is saying, I am in constant communication with God, what he literally means is he knows what time it is.
	And I know you're all like, oh, John, you're making that up to be a fucking dick.
	No, he says this all of the time.
	The thing you have to understand about also these long form interviews, the reason why they're so circular and boring, even in these clips, is the whole show is designed because he knows people literally pop in and out.
	They watch one minute of it.
	He is an identifiable brand, but no one sits really and actually watches his show except for me for days during COVID just to fucking see what was going on.
	There was, I tuned in once at four o'clock in the morning and he was shirtless just yelling Melinda Gates.
	I mean, the problem is that's entertaining.
	That is entertaining.
	Meaning, it was six in the morning, Texas time, and he was live.
	Understand that.
	Understand it was six days.
	Open the gates.
	It was before that he got his COVID griff really good and down.
	It was very good.
	Yeah, he didn't know which way to go for a little while.
	Yeah, he was struggling.
	Originally was going to kill us all.
	He is on record as saying COVID is the end.
	We're all going to die.
	This is real.
	And like within a week, he was like, there's no way the gov is real.
	The wind has changed.
	I've decided.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, he literally believes he's plugged into the matrix, literally talking to God.
	So that's fun.
	But again, you have to remember that Alex has Russell on because Alex is attempting to steal Russell's audience.
	This will have been simulcast on both of their channels, no matter what.
	So also that delay is Alex trying to figure out within the lore of his show, which he doesn't always do, by the way.
	He changes his, like, he's so inconsistent on his worldview, but you can tell he's really trying to not have to then do the 4 a.m. thing because he knows that Russell will then outdo him with his weird god speech in a fucking robe from the Marriott.
	Yeah, he'll just talk in circles, you know, for 10 minutes if you try that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And yeah, this did just go out on InfoWars, by the way.
	This wasn't on Russell's channel at all, mercifully.
	But let's hear the rest of the clip anyway.
	And then if I actually pray, I just say, tell me what to do.
	And so it's for me, it's a little different than kind of people think the conceptual idea of understand.
	I do do praying on my knees in private.
	I do a lot of that.
	Okay, it's key to get on your knees for whatever reason.
	Like the body on the face is what I do.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hey, all right, that's cool.
	Let's not have a prayer off like your prayers are better than mine.
	Well, you said something, funny.
	He keeps trying.
	Alex Jones can't, he's taking everything as an affront in a competition.
	It's like watching two different manifestations of narcissism.
	One of them socializes better with the other, while the other has slightly more money.
	Yeah, I think Russell did kind of start the pissing contest there.
	So like he doesn't have too much of a right to complain.
	But yeah, it does.
	There is some of that kind of one-upsmanship going on throughout.
	And in other news, Alex Jones prays on his face.
	For anyone listening and not watching, he did a motion with his hand implying someone falling flat on their face.
	And this is not.
	So I've seen this.
	Really?
	Yeah, you get down on your knees.
	It's a very evangelical thing.
	You pray essentially in child's pose is something that you'll see.
	Oh, so, okay.
	So like on the knees, but then also on the face kind of thing.
	Exactly, Kirk.
	That's what he's talking about.
	Oh, wow.
	okay see i was picturing him just like you're completely prone if you talk to a catholic you're not supposed to do that like there's a This is the fun thing is that it's getting into all these sort of interdimensional, denominational things.
	And there's somewhere there's a Presbyterian about to form a committee.
	Am I right?
	Help!
	All I've got is in the back of my head is from Father Ted.
	You know, that would be an ecumenical matter.
	That's all I've seen.
	Are you racist now, Father?
	I'm sorry.
	Fuck Graham Lenahan, but that was a great show.
	I mean, I have to tell you, Graham Linehan is, he may be one of the greatest crash outs in the history of the internet, but it is, it's, I can't look away.
	Like it's like I'm just like, what is this?
	Like, because it's also, I've now followed it long enough that I, he's changed, he's changed his rhetoric.
	Like, his rhetoric has really shifted in a way.
	And then, but the first thing is he always will start with, I've only always wanted one thing.
	And it's like, that, Graham, I hate to be this cunt, but I've, I've been rage following you for about five years.
	And it's your demands have changed rapidly.
	Yeah, you've, you've, you've won a lot of different things, bud.
	A lot of different things going on.
	Like, that Father Ted musical story has really shifted.
	Like, it is fascinating in that man's inability to own his own baggage in confrontational situations.
	It's fascinating.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And no matter what, he will find a way to shift it to blame the trans people.
	Because the whole thing is based off the fact that on Twitter, he got shit because of an episode of the I.T. crowd.
	Whatever he says is a lie.
	It's because he is he Twitter became a echo chamber of positivity for someone who is deeply deeply narcissistic.
	And his echo chamber of positivity was negatively affected for a very brief period of time.
	And he has never been able to recover.
	It's like you really, you wouldn't expect that's an American way of approaching.
	Like you wouldn't expect it from an Irish guy.
	No, it shows just such an incredible fragility.
	It's genuinely like, that's why you can't look away because it's just like, oh, he's broken again.
	You know, like, oh, something else.
	I mean, yeah.
	And it's also like, and how fucking stupefying, like inept and like fucking playing into his hands the UK like government and court system has been.
	Like that arrested Heathrow, I was just like, guys.
	But there is a part of me that is very dark in my heart that goes, he did like someone, he like that it was a setup.
	I don't want to be that guy, but sometimes I'm that guy.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	It only worked out for him at the end of the day.
	Like, I get to know what I'm saying.
	I actually don't think it was a setup.
	I think it was truly an administrative, stupefying, stupid error.
	And they literally had just a thing scanning for various aggressive things.
	And they're like, oh, this is a famous figure.
	Go pick him up.
	Not understanding what they were about to unleash upon the world.
	Most likely.
	You know, I mean, all of our institutions are run by people and many people are either idiots or just don't think things through.
	Never prescribe evil when it could be just stupidity.
	That's yeah, exactly.
	A hundred percent.
	A hundred percent.
	You know, never ascribe to malice what could be explained by incompetence or ignorance.
	Um, you know, it's usually one or the other.
	Um, so from here we move on to a classic example of Alex Jones saying one thing and then showing another.
	And this was this was fun for me.
	They're doing digital ID in my country.
	They're in a turbulent carbon scoring.
	Totalitarian.
	So they say that there is no God, but they are God.
	They are God.
	And what they want to emulate is that form of total control.
	Our Lord asks that we approach him as little children.
	Come as little children is in innocence.
	They want total dependency.
	They want you dependent on them for information, for revenue, and they're beginning to create the systems through which they would deploy it.
	Like, did you see that story in my country?
	They started to innocuously introduce carbon scoring on like sandwiches or whatever, Alex.
	Or saying, hey, your dog is bad.
	It has a carbon score.
	Wow.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Bear.
	The game's up.
	Your carbon score's too high.
	They say, get rid of your dog's cat.
	I don't know if you've seen that.
	They have TV ads in the UK.
	That kill your pets, man.
	It's literally a sacrifice to Molech.
	Maybe liberals will throw their dogs into fires or catch.
	Wow, to Molik, to Malik, to the false, the authors of the false.
	Well, it's a lie.
	We have total expansion.
	hundreds of billions of galaxies already found it's like it's the lie is that it's the resources are that's why we're supposed to we're supposed to exploit in a good way All the animals want to come into the cities where we grow everything.
	We are actually expansionists.
	We're amazing.
	We're God's Terraformers.
	Yep, we're God's Terraformers.
	I assume that that article will be from the InfoWars website or the Epoch Times.
	No, so this is from the Associated Press, right?
	So for anyone listening, part of the job of the Infowars crew is to change camera angles and occasionally put up pictures or videos on screen.
	We just had the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel for a little bit for no reason.
	And in this case, they seem to have had one prepped related to what Alex was talking about, which is an article from the Associated Press.
	Only it doesn't say everyone should sacrifice their dogs to Moloch.
	It says, pets contribute to greenhouse gases like us.
	Here's how to reduce their carbon paw print.
	There is nothing in the article itself about getting rid of your pets.
	In fact, it just suggests that if you are environmentally conscious, there are things you can do in terms of food or toys for the animals that will reduce their carbon pawprint.
	That's it.
	That's the whole thing.
	And I'm just like, dude.
	Do you think that Alex knows he's a liar at this point?
	Because I don't think he knows anymore.
	At one point he did, and now he doesn't know.
	I think he knows about some stuff.
	And then there's other stuff where the lines have become too blurred, you know?
	No, I think it's all just, he's just whatever, man.
	Like, it's just that thing of like.
	Like, it's just, it's just like, I get to, like, I, I want to say this, so I'll just believe it.
	Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe.
	I mean, you know, Russell's not much better.
	He signed on to that story real quick.
	Well, what's interesting is he didn't really.
	What he did was he laughed along and went, okay, okay, because he's smart enough to know this is being recorded.
	I am not, I'm going to look like I endorse this, but he is then able to walk back and be like, no, I don't fuck.
	Like, oh, did I produce the tape where I say I agree with that?
	And like, technically, he's never.
	He doesn't definitively say as much.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	As for digital ID, that is a problem that's coming to head in the UK.
	As is the fact that if I want to watch porn without use of a VPN, I have to perform an identity check with my ID and a video of my face with a third-party company before I can access anything that's meant for those over 18.
	That's now law in this country, which is fucking insane.
	But the digital ID, part of the problem is that the United Kingdom has a citizen-identifying manner.
	You guys don't have, like, you have an NIN number and stuff like that, but like, it's not you.
	There's no way to track anything like that.
	Listen, I'm not a digital ID fan and I don't understand what the Labor Party is fucking with, but isn't that part of the problem?
	In a post-Brexit world, all your driver's licenses were European Union.
	They are now not European Union.
	So you now need to have everything converted back to JSON.
	No, no, no, everything's still gone through the DVLA, like for driving licenses and everything like that.
	We still have that whole system.
	Basically, like the consensus is there is no reason for it.
	Like there is no need for it.
	Like technically.
	To do something.
	Yeah, well, the thing that they're tying it to is like, oh, it will help us track illegal migrants better.
	And I'm like, no, it won't.
	And to try and like, you know, the idea is, oh, you won't be able to get a job if you don't have one of these.
	And I'm like, well, you already technically can't get a job if you don't have national insurance number or any of this other stuff.
	Yeah, which is people work for fucking cash, you morons.
	And so, yeah, it's entirely unnecessary.
	Fun fact, everyone.
	How long was I living in the UK legally before I was and working every week before I was asked for an NIN number?
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	How long?
	How long?
	Let's see.
	Do you have a guess?
	How long were you over here total?
	You were here for a while.
	Six years.
	Six years.
	Two years?
	Was it a couple of years?
	Two years.
	Bang on the money, two years.
	Fantastic.
	And it was only because I was doing a taping for a BBC program.
	Right, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	And the BBC was like, we're going to need to make sure that you're legal.
	And I showed them my visa and they're like, we need to see your NIN number.
	And I was like, I don't know what that is.
	And the BBC literally was like, you have to go to a job center.
	And I was like, what?
	And they're like, go to a job center, show them this, this is, and I'll issue one.
	And I did, and they did.
	Fantastic.
	Yeah, yeah, right, right.
	Oh, my God.
	It's, it's, we, we don't have, we don't have a need for digital ID.
	And there are big, like, data privacy concerns and everything else.
	And that being tied to all of the like over 18 shit and like people being tracked.
	And there's, there's, it's basically, it's deeply unpopular on the left and the right.
	Um, is it essentially over here?
	We're like, no, we don't want it.
	Fuck you.
	But the Labour Party at the moment don't give a shit.
	So it's basically it's Labor's way of saying, seeing we're doing something about illegal immigration.
	But the problem is that you can't really actually do anything about illegal immigration because there isn't really that much illegal immigration going on in the UK.
	To bring me back to my point during the Patreon rant, it's a little thing called Brexit, you democraphic declining assholes.
	Yes, it's that in combination with the fact that the UK made all routes of asylum illegal into the UK.
	So like any asylum seeker coming over here has to come here illegally because we haven't allowed any alternative for them.
	And now one of the fucking Labor politicians is suggesting that we should steal their jewelry upon entry to the country to pay for for their for them to stay here.
	I gotta tell you.
	I gotta tell you.
	I love a British politician because they are either the most boring or the most evil.
	Or Dennis Skinner.
	It's three ways.
	Like it's either you're Rory Stewart.
	Wait a minute.
	You were a spy for 10 years and you're this fucking boring?
	You haven't lived until you've Morris danced.
	I'm going to kill myself.
	Or you're Jacob Reese Mog, which is just like, holy, they haven't made a James Bond movie this unbelievable to feature a fucking.
	Literally Dickensian in every aspect.
	Oh my God.
	And then you have Dennis Skinner.
	There's the guy who heckles the queen.
	Yeah.
	Reuses to stay in hotels.
	I missed Dennis Skinner.
	My God.
	He was a real one.
	He really was.
	God damn.
	The amount of shit that he threw at David Cameron and calling him Dodgy Dave and refusing to take it back.
	I'm like, yeah.
	I like Dodgy Dave.
	Dodgy Dave is good.
	What's better is when he's just like, he's corrupt.
	And then they're like, you have to take that back.
	And he's like, I'm not going to.
	And then he walks out and he does it again.
	And that right there is the best of England.
	If you want to know what, like, when, when you're like, how did England get an empire?
	It's that stubbornness.
	You're not allowed to call them corrupt.
	Says who?
	Me.
	I'm the literal speaker of the house.
	Ah, fuck you.
	You're just like, fuck me.
	Wait, what?
	I'm out of here.
	Yes.
	I'm going to go.
	My personal moniker for David Cameron these days is Lord Pig Fucker because he's a lord now.
	And that's fun.
	Oh, fuck.
	Yeah.
	He got made on board so he could be the fucking what's his fuck.
	Yeah, the fucking foreign secretary.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He got a fucking job for.
	I fucking hate England.
	The fucking guy.
	Yes, correct.
	Destroyed the most successful political party in the history of the world is destroyed because of David Cameron.
	The British economy is destroyed because of David Cameron.
	And then he gets to hang out with Andrew Lloyd Weber.
	Yep, Lord Pig fucker.
	And yeah, he's forever forever that now.
	Fucking fantastic.
	Christ.
	Anyway, back to Russell and Alex.
	So from here, Russell is cajoled by Alex Jones into drinking some methylene blue dye while on air.
	And this is how it goes.
	Okay, let's try some Alex Jones juice.
	He just drank the ultramethylene blue.
	Usually takes 30 minutes to hit.
	We'll see what happens.
	Russell, you're already so fired up.
	I'm kind of scared.
	This is dormant control by Satan.
	You gotta free yourself.
	I'm angry.
	Hillary Clinton.
	Hillary Clinton.
	She sleeps in an oxygen tent eating children's first menstrual cycles.
	The Clintons.
	There's nobody that's ever known Bella Hillary Clinton.
	I heard she stinks of sulfur.
	Everyone that's ever known Hillary Clinton, they've killed themselves.
	What's going on?
	That killer that used to live in the White House with Bill Clinton.
	It's killed itself this morning.
	That other lady, Monica Lewinsky.
	You mean she got white on a blue dress?
	We got blue on a white dress, baby.
	Give me your bottle of water.
	Let's double down here.
	Come on, I can take more than she.
	I only gave you one dose here.
	There she is.
	She's in it.
	I had enough of it.
	Look, she's drinking it now.
	Dump your water.
	There's baby blood in that Starbucks car.
	Right now, methylene blue.
	Let's go all the way.
	We're going eight hours.
	Take it there, Alex.
	This dude.
	Challenging me.
	This is legendary.
	I will win.
	You came here particularly wound up.
	Beat me.
	Okay.
	So he's doubling down on the methylene blue dosage there.
	And fun fact: if you take too much methylene blue, especially over a prolonged period, it can cause hypertension and really fuck with your brain.
	In fact, several months ago, before I went on a break, Russell was putting some in his drink while on air on his own show, and the Rumble chat was kicking off being like, whoa, that's way too much.
	Dial it back.
	But here we're fucking doubling down, baby.
	That's what we're doing.
	Let's get it in us.
	Oh, boy.
	Can't it also turn you blue?
	I think that's colloidal silver mostly.
	That is colloidal silver.
	Thousand apologies.
	That's colloidal silver.
	Pardon me.
	Yeah, but methylene blue.
	I'm confusing my absolute bullshit.
	My personal favorite is that methylene blue is the one that cures cancer, right?
	That's the one that don't do chemotherapy, just take methylene blue.
	Yeah, that's one of the things.
	Yep, yep.
	And it all kicked off because everyone saw RFK Jr. drinking it while on Air Force One.
	And therefore, now everyone has their own line of methylene blue to sell.
	Fun time.
	I fucking hate nowadays.
	Go ahead.
	Yep, the UK, America.
	It's all fucking terrible.
	Let's all go live in hell.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Otherwise, you can really tell from that clip how much Russell loves, well, Alex Jones in general, but also the meme version of Alex Jones, like The Impression, referencing the Clinton kill list.
	And one of his favorite songs that he has played on his show is Nick Lutzko's, you know, Alex Jones rants as an indie folk song.
	You know, Hillary's into creepy weird stuff, Matt, right?
	Which is fantastic.
	Yes.
	It's delightful.
	I fucking love Nick Lutzko.
	He's fantastic.
	But yeah, Russell just loves the mythos around the man, which I can only surmise probably makes the man a bit of a disappointment when you actually meet him compared to like the meme, you know, that you're used to getting online.
	Like, I don't know.
	I, I, I can't imagine being, you know, him living up to the hype, you know?
	Yeah, well, it's again, he's just a five foot five guy who lies in a storage unit.
	Like, the other thing, like, you know what I mean?
	Like, it's one of those things where it's like, Russell, oh, what would it be like to meet Russell Brand?
	You never met a self-you never met a self-interested liar before?
	Like, it's probably that vibe.
	Like, it's not fun.
	One of the people that one of the many people he slept with repeatedly supposedly said he smells a bit like wet dog.
	And I'm like, yeah, that feels right.
	I'm like, yeah.
	Well, well, yeah, I mean, he's certainly baptizing enough people these days.
	He's at least doing that.
	He baptized someone in a zoo the other day in the little penguin pond.
	He baptized someone in there.
	That's fucking disgusting, man.
	That's crazy.
	I love it, Penguin.
	But there's no way a winter-based fish eater has good poops.
	Like, those things are got to be.
	No, and this, this was like, I don't know, this was like somewhere in Florida, I think.
	Like, and I'm like, that's got it.
	That can't be good.
	That can't be good.
	Yeah, that's got to be a nightmare.
	Oh, God.
	So now we move on to something that kind of surprised me a little bit.
	Because I've often thought that covering Alex Jones while horrifying is somewhat more palatable than covering Russell Brands.
	Because had I known that Russell was an alleged sex criminal before I started, I might never have done this show.
	And Alex Jones has caused countless harm to countless people in the world.
	But hey, at least he's never descended into that territory.
	Has he?
	You know, I've been sitting here with Mefflin Blue.
	I've been sitting here realizing that you're a wild man.
	I don't even pay attention to all this stuff.
	Like, 20 years ago, they claim this.
	I didn't know you have a trial coming up.
	I apologize.
	I wasn't following that.
	Oh, no, don't worry.
	It's just you know, I have to go up.
	And obviously, I can't talk about it.
	I have to be careful.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Imagine that.
	No, the ladies with me.
	You know why?
	I know it's not true.
	No, for decades they didn't say it.
	But on top of that, did you know they had all these women that I was even with, but they would, they scooped Facebook and everywhere.
	And I would have like business women like, we saw you at a business party and took a picture of my husband.
	I got a call offered this money to say you rape me.
	Like, I got, I got a, I had PI firms like create a file because they were doing it, but they literally scraped any Facebook photos of me with women, like at parties or events.
	They would contact one and say, did Alex Jones rape you?
	So I mean, this is crazy what they do.
	That is crazy.
	That much I agree with.
	Yeah, I just have a feeling, and this comes back, but like, I have a feeling we shouldn't be surprised if there are some terrible revelations about Alex Jones at some point.
	Oh, he's claiming crazy things.
	I think he claimed at one point he had 60 abortions.
	I can't quite remember the number.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	When he was like a teenager or whatever else, you know, before he was like 16 or something, you're like, what?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's fucking insane, man.
	Yes.
	Yeah, but, but, but hey, I'm sure it's all just people who scraped his Facebook pictures for women and then bribed them into committing fraud.
	I'm sure if anything ever happens, that's all it'll be.
	It's just, it's so also, I love that Russell literally, like, literally what Alex Jones brought up was like, hey, I just heard about your trial.
	And Russell Brand was like, yeah, we can't talk about it.
	And then he was like, all right, let's talk about it.
	Like, it's just like, yeah, yeah, he's like, I can't say much, you know, but we should.
	You're going to say something.
	We're going to say something because you're here and this is my show.
	Yeah.
	Oh, dear.
	So next up, we get a bit of a glimpse into both Russell's life and marriage while he's trying to, you know, claim innocence and not say too much.
	Now, listen, can I just make my serious point?
	In this scripture, in the Holy Word, they talk about the power of sex.
	That sex is meant to be an expression of love.
	That's what it's supposed to be.
	That sex is so powerful that it should only be.
	It's life.
	It's procreation.
	God made it.
	And is there sanction in scripture?
	Yes, there is.
	that it ought be enjoyed within the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.
	I'm not a judgmental person because...
	But have you not noticed being committed to one woman gets better and better?
	Well, I think it's actually quite hard to be married.
	I'm just learning.
	I've only been a Christian a minute.
	But what I'm saying is now, how I live is I don't look at pornography.
	I don't masturbate.
	I don't drink.
	I don't take drugs.
	I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	I train.
	I go to yoga.
	I do my best.
	I worship and I pray.
	And I've been a lot of things in the past, but I've never been a rapist.
	What I have been is exploitative and selfish.
	And I've obviously hurt people because if I hadn't hurt people, they wouldn't be willing to participate in what I consider to be a governmental and media operation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sure, sure.
	I think it would be a government operation.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, rather than governmental.
	Yes.
	Yeah, no, he's he's tried to, he's tried to assert that both both the MI5 and CIA were involved in trying to take him down.
	But yeah, sure, buddy.
	It's all a conspiracy against you rather than literal decades of well-substantiated sexual crimes.
	I'm sure that.
	You can also tell that Russell is really prepared for this not to go well.
	His counter narrative is, I did it, but not in the way that they are saying I did.
	And it's yours.
	Wait, your defense is I shot him, but like not like, yeah, I stabbed the motherfucker, but just not with a knife, right?
	What's that?
	It's different.
	It's different.
	Nobody's nerfed, everybody.
	I don't know what to fucking tell you.
	Hey?
	So like the thing that kind of grabbed me out of this was just how fucking terrible Russell's life sounds.
	And I don't say that out of any sympathy, but like clearly he's not having a fun time with his monogamous marriage.
	By the way, he's been married since fucking like the mid-2010s.
	So I'm like, you know, like, should it be that hard?
	Like, I know you're a new Christian.
	What do you think that house is like right now?
	Oh, fucking hell.
	You're going to trial in the UK and I have to live in fucking Florida.
	I used to live in the Cotswolds and now I know Laura Loomer.
	Go for it.
	Had to drag the three kids, right?
	You know, leave the dog behind for the most part.
	It's a whole thing like, oh, oh.
	And so like, he's not having a great time there.
	And on top of that, his life apparently consists of worship, praying, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, yoga, and then no porn, no masturbation, no alcohol, and no drugs.
	And then, of course, spending your days talking about God to the likes of Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson while being stuck in Florida.
	Like, even with the many millions Russell has plus the fame, if that were my life, I would be incredibly depressed.
	You know, that's just the influence and appeal to Joe Rogan, these people still do with the, well, I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	It's like, Jesus, fucking just get his cock out of your mouth, man.
	Like, what are we doing here?
	Like, talk about eating a lot of elk.
	He talks more about elk than anything else.
	Yeah, eat some fucking elk.
	I mean, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I should raise that.
	Russell's not been vegan for like, I don't know, half a year.
	I don't know, a while anyway.
	He's back on, back on steaks and whatever the fuck else now, which is, yeah.
	So I was like, okay.
	And I only found this out because he mentioned it in passing that he was eating steak when he was having a chat with Dave Rubin.
	I'm like, what?
	What?
	Where did this come from?
	Oh, God.
	Imagine that room.
	I forgot he has to know Dave Rubin now.
	Oh, they have a podcast together.
	So Russell is part of another podcast called Actual Friends.
	And Russell will feature in like, I don't know, maybe half the episodes.
	But like, it's Dave Rubin and him and then a couple of women whose names I forget who are also, you know, of the same kind of sphere, but not particularly notable.
	And it's just awful.
	God, I hate that, Al.
	I have to tell you, you know, I could have lived the rest of my life just not knowing that was a thing.
	And now I'm going to be able to do that.
	I mean, I recommend avoiding it.
	He is my favorite grifter.
	Because he's like, only that fucking dolt would literally look at his audience and go, you know what?
	They will support me, a gay man, having twins.
	Yeah.
	Why the fuck are you fucking like what?
	What turnip truck did that absolute wet brain fall off of?
	Glenn Beck having to do damage control for him?
	Like you literally see Glenn Beck just wanting to turn to the camera and go, I'm grossed out too.
	Like it is wild.
	The conversation with him and Ben Shapiro with Ben Shapiro being like, no, no, no, no.
	I would not attend your wedding.
	No, fuck you.
	You're like, oh, geez.
	I'll come to a barbecue.
	I mean, that and then the fucking, the recent thing with Jillian What's her face, the woman from The Biggest Losers now, a political commentator.
	And she pointed out that they're going after gay marriage because she's way more maha than conspiracy theory.
	And she's like, Dave, we got to do something about that.
	And Dave Rubin, like, all but gives her hair the old like, like throat cut sign.
	Like, yeah.
	We can't go down that road.
	I, I, I, I'd rather not, I'd rather not, I'd rather not.
	I have a lifestyle to maintain and a vodka brand to sell.
	Um, so let's, let's not.
	Yeah.
	Or is it tequila?
	One or the other.
	Um, he definitely has his own licensed liquor anyway.
	Um, um, oh, and also uh from that clip, don't don't let it go unnoticed that Russell, Russell pointed out how sex should only be between a man and a woman there.
	Um, and he was about to go on it on a bit of a tirade about it.
	He's taken a notable pivot against the gays over the last year and regularly attacks trans people for fun too now as well.
	Um, so like, yeah.
	And was and was originally raising one of his daughters non-binary.
	Daisy can choose what she is when she's older.
	Right, right, yes.
	Funny how things change, isn't it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So from here, Russell tries to steer the conversation in a less salacious and sex-based direction, but Alex is having none of it.
	Back to the sex stuff.
	Oh.
	20-year-old stuff, it's obviously horse crab.
	My point is, is that I'm telling you, when you click with the woman and you're with the woman, I've been married twice, but especially with my current wife, I mean, I'm telling you, the more currently, my point is, it's fun, the new buzz, the new woman, the whole thing.
	But like God says, the commitment, it gets better and better.
	Have you not found that?
	Like being with one woman is like just better and better?
	I'm still learning about, I'm a person that I was very, very promiscuous.
	The answer is yes to flesh.
	When someone as insecure as I was when I was a boy, with the appetites that I have been granted, gains access to almost limitless consensual sexual activity, it kind of messes with you a little bit when it comes to how do you make this an expression of monogamous love.
	So for you, it's more about that they want to be with you.
	It's more about the encounter.
	That's what everybody wants, isn't it?
	100% about how good it is.
	But I get where you're going.
	That's the most wild thing.
	What I'm saying now is that I'm learning as a married man and as a father.
	I couldn't be more devoted and more in love with my wife.
	That was my question.
	Much better is this compared to your earlier life?
	It's there is no comparison.
	If I died now, I'd be happy.
	In fact, frankly, it'd be a relief, Alex.
	Life's hard, isn't it?
	Well, God's commissioned you.
	Your mission's hard.
	Praise Jesus.
	Wow.
	So, sorry if your imminent death sounds like a relief, mate.
	Your mission has just begun.
	Praise Jesus.
	Such a like that just felt like Russell from 2010, like just escaped from his cage.
	And I was like, What have I become?
	Yeah, I used to fuck so many women, and now I don't know how to handle one.
	I used to be like, I used to not have to raise my kids.
	Now I got to raise my kids.
	This is bullshit.
	Yeah, you can, you can, you can hear it all just seeping out of his paws, just like, this is terrible.
	I'd rather be fucking dead.
	Yeah, death would be a relief.
	Jesus Christ.
	So, yeah, Russell's marriage is clearly not going very well at this stage in time.
	Like, maybe his wife Laura resents being forced into exile in Florida.
	Who knows?
	Or maybe she won't do any of the weird sex stuff he's clearly into.
	Either way, she has financially benefited from all of his nonsense, including being a half-owner in stay-free media while it existed.
	So I'm not going to feel too bad for her, but oh boy, what a fun situation.
	Wow.
	So now Alex is going to tell one of his favorite lies, which I'm sure you, John, will have heard before.
	And it's one that Russell clearly knows is bullshit.
	So we get a little bit of a taste of his response to that before Russell asks an inane question and Alex takes it all back to a place that he really didn't need to.
	Oh, my dad digging.
	I got methylene bro in my hand.
	My dad digging it.
	My mark of the beast.
	My dad, I've told this forever, but they always have this a secret.
	Oh, he found this out.
	No, my dad got recruited into MCElder.
	Oh, yeah, no, I've heard you say that.
	Look, I want to just ask you.
	He didn't know.
	He thought he was joining NASA.
	But that's the reason I know.
	Alex, I've got a series of questions.
	Let me interview you for a minute.
	Alex, do you think that the primary problem that we're facing now is that the kind of operations that you've just described, the MK Ultra operations, they could be kept clandestine in a previous media age, but now mass communication and instantaneous communication means that they can no longer control information in the way they once did.
	So they've got new novel problems when it comes to controlling information.
	Globalists thought the computers and the AI would empower them instead of destroying them.
	Yes.
	So now they can't run counter psyops fast enough to keep the information quiet.
	And so is that why do you think the categories of misinformation, malinformation have been created?
	When I saw Obama talking about that at Stanford University, he was saying that even people that don't believe crazy folks like Alex Jones or Russell Brand, they're still, it's muddying the water is the phrase that he used.
	Do you think that what they have to do is smear and take down prominent influencers or online?
	The whole model is demonize a Troy, put rape charges on everybody.
	Everybody, Trump, you me, everybody.
	Unless you live like a priest on top of mountain, you know, that they can make something up.
	That's that's I have never seen such an interesting like that.
	Is some palace intrigue.
	And that basically Russell is like literally like, motherfucker, I am going to trial.
	Shut up.
	And like Russell literally thinks he's got Alex in a box and Alex literally escapes free at the last moment.
	Yeah, they try and accuse you of rape.
	Like, what's happening to you in England?
	Because they accused you of that.
	And then you're like, holy shit.
	Like, I don't feel sorry for Russell Brandon.
	I was like, you really thought you had him there, didn't you, pal?
	You thought you'd steered him away, but nope, no.
	Here he comes again.
	Fucking world's biggest magnet, he returns.
	Like, yeah, it's um, and I'm just I he keeps putting himself in the picture as well.
	And like, and and for me, I'm like, okay, there's a 50-50 shot that that's just Alex's ego and wanting to fucking put himself in the same position as Trump and Russell and you know, wanting to be like, you know, the martyr and everything else.
	And then I'm like, or maybe there's something to be concerned about because, like, in that list, like, Russell is on trial for sex crimes.
	Trump can legally be described as a rapist because it was proven in court.
	And so then you're just left with Alex Jones, who keeps insisting that any charges will be made up about him.
	Like, okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	Let me give you a list of people that are definitely going to make up stuff about me.
	My banker, my ex-wife, everyone.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, like for Russell's question, like, the problem is he was trying to distract it, but like, the answer is too fucking boring.
	Because, yeah, conspiracies are much harder to maintain in an era with more technology that's literally everywhere.
	But it's also.
	But that's also not true.
	And the conspiracies have existed no matter like everyone's like, oh, MK Ultra, all this has come out.
	No, the conspiracy theories have existed forever.
	Just because that fucking motherfucker wrote that stupid book, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, and the John Birch Society invented a bunch of stuff about Dwight D. Eisenhower doesn't mean this stuff is new.
	You know what I mean?
	Like the protocols of the Elder of Elders of Zion is a conspiracy theory document that was invented by the czarist secret police of Russia.
	Like, everyone stop it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And it's, it's, but it's just, it's hilarious to me that they both agree that, like, oh, yeah, because technology and everyone's got smartphones now and everyone can record everything.
	Like, yeah, it's harder to do like MK Ultra or like these big conspiracies or anything else like that.
	And I'm like, why don't you apply that same logic to everything else you think is a conspiracy that's happening?
	Like, why does that never come up?
	You know, I'm like, you're bringing this up now.
	And I'm like, do you know how hard it is to maintain a conspiracy like these days?
	Like all the shit about the vaccines that these two go on about, you know, Pfizer and everything else.
	I'm like, do you know how many people would have to be involved?
	Like if the vaccines were like actually, you know, nefarious in any way?
	Yeah, exactly.
	But again, you can't, it's also like the also, by the way, they're the conspiracy theory around the vaccine has changed now.
	Because originally it was only the COVID vaccine.
	Now it's, we are vaccinating too much.
	And it's also that thing of like, oh, and by the way, Ivermectin wasn't these things that was a smear.
	It's like, no, it's not.
	It was just shut up.
	Also, like, Ivermectin is also a big pharma product.
	What are we doing?
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's just, it's one that they can sell.
	So there we go.
	That's different somehow.
	Yeah.
	Oh, fuck.
	So now we get to the subject of another asshat in this media sphere, who you're familiar with before.
	Russell asks a pretty crucial question.
	But now they've moved on to civil war within the populist movement.
	And I don't demonize Nick Fuentes for that because he's done a lot of stuff on his own and brings a lot of good issues up.
	But he's, you know, he's being used as that wedge.
	If he rides that wedge and plays their game, they're going to be nice to him for a while, but destroy him when they're done.
	So that's a holder civil war.
	Who's the they in that example, Alex?
	It's the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie.
	To this day, Rockefeller Carnegie, all those foundations that were impactful in the formation of America, the setting up of the Federal Reserve and the establishment of the- Yeah, the CIA and stuff is just the clearinghouse.
	Or it's like who understood their actions.
	It is the tax-free foundations who represent the big banks.
	Nick Fuentes, by the way, is essentially a sponsor of Infowars.
	At this point, he does a variety of appearances like a gold sponsor used to do.
	So like he has to basically defend Nick Fuentes.
	It's so funny that Russell is Russell knows the game Alex is playing and is willfully fucking him by going, who's the we in that?
	Because he can either say because the thing with that is you can't say what he is implying, so he has to go with the Rockefeller Foundation, which is just, by the way, no.
	Yeah, I just, I just love the response like, whoa, to this day, it's the same people.
	Like, oh, it's fucking fantastic.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then, yes, it is always the ultra-rich trying to take advantage of the rest of us because they have more and they don't want to give it up.
	Yes, that is true.
	That was always the story.
	But it's not a cabal.
	It's just the nature of our times, you fuchs.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's just, it's not who you think it is or the way you think it is.
	You know, it's the people that you like that are the problem, generally speaking.
	But yeah, for Russell, like, he is coming in this with that same degree of credulity.
	Like, he is like, whoa, really?
	You know, like, Alex's dad being part of MK Ultra was too much for him, but the Rockefellers and the Carnegies using Nick Fuentes to drive a wedge through the right wing before discarding him.
	Now, that's entirely believable.
	That's true, but it's actually going to be the right way.
	Nick Fuentes disposing of the right wing.
	It's again, it's the same thing with Trump.
	These people don't understand what they're letting into the tent.
	Tucker just thinks he gets to be Pat Buchanan, and all Tucker did is just hand his audience over to Nick Fuentes, because Nick Fuentes will say this, the quiet part out loud, and Tucker can't, because in the end, Tucker is still appealing to 70 year old baby boomers who are upset that there is someone named Kareem living on the street.
	Yes yeah yeah, that's absolutely.
	By the way, they were upset when there was someone named Patrick living on the street.
	These people aren't any different than they ever were.
	I love all the fucking.
	Everyone is like, I haven't changed.
	It's the world that's changed.
	No, people just don't want to fuck you anymore.
	And now you know, get out of it.
	It's all been the same.
	Yeah, as soon as you know it was, it was the Irish.
	Well, it was the Chinese, then it was the Irish, then it's, it's, it's fucking.
	You know it's.
	It's been the same fucking tale in America since the beginning.
	Christ alive.
	So from here, Russell confirms that he is not, in fact, a paid asset, so I guess that's good.
	I've never been offered anything of you.
	I've never like had anyone like from Mossad or any deep state agency say to me, we'll give you 10 million dollars.
	That's because you've been assessed Russell yes, I'm too crazy, you're too crazy.
	I have been offered payoffs.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait.
	So what happened before this interview?
	They do not like there is something going.
	I think what it is is their personality disorders clash and assume, like there, it's what happens when two sons are in the room, like you know what I mean?
	Yeah, kind of vying for for the same kind of attention.
	Um yeah yeah, there is that like competitiveness between them.
	For sure um, and and that right there from Russell was was the voice of disappointment.
	Russell has been laundering Russian propaganda and Alt-right propaganda for years and he's been doing it for free um virtually, when he could have been getting some sweet Russian oligarch money this entire time.
	Well no yeah, like the thing that Russell.
	Russell is lying, lying through will for ignorance.
	He doesn't understand that like how like, Like, how you're approached and paid for is not like, yeah.
	Yes, it's, it's, it's not as straightforward as he might imagine it to be.
	You know, it's, it's a cold war.
	There's definitely someone at Rumble who is going, hey, by the way, say X and Y.
	Oh, it's fucking, it's owned by Peter Thiel.
	Like, like, there's no other way, you know, like, it's 100% that direction.
	I should point out that Alex goes on to say how he's been offered money, but obviously, you know, would never accept such a deal from anyone.
	You know, and they knew that, you know, despite Alex's many appearances on Russian state television and everything.
	Whereas Russell, you know, he's been assessed.
	Whatever.
	Whatever that means.
	He's been assessed.
	So he doesn't get any offers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What is also very interesting, though, is you have to remember is like Alex is also like they both also got a shitload of money from the Trump organization in 2016 and from a bunch of different organizations.
	Like the Koch brothers, I'm sure, donated to Alex Jones because he was doing a variety of anti-environmental stuff.
	Like, what do you mean?
	Like, bottom paid for is such an interesting description.
	What Alex is like, did the CIA come and tell you to be like, hey, bro, Clinton?
	Then Russell, I guarantee, is going, no, but I guarantee Russell, guaranteedly, Harlan Crowe has signed a couple of checks for old Grusselbrand.
	Yes, yeah, exactly.
	It's you're useful.
	Therefore, I will fund this.
	Which, yeah, Russell fits the bill of for the most part.
	That's all right.
	You're a parent.
	I get it.
	Now, at this stage in the proceedings, Alex, he got distracted by the fact that Russell didn't understand a reference that he was making to the big speech from Network.
	And so they spend, I shit you not, 20 minutes watching Network and otherwise dicking around playing pre-made Infowars videos that use AI-generated versions of Alex Jones.
	I want you to know that this happens on this show way more than I would, I think that they're prepared to admit.
	Like the amount of it's just Alex Jones watching television is wild.
	I mean, if I could make money out of it, I fucking would.
	But, you know, I wouldn't also pretend to be the tip of the spear at the same time.
	I guess that's the crucial difference.
	But when they come back from this little break, we learn why Russell is in Texas in the first place.
	All right, you did a great job of interrupting.
	You got to go in 40 minutes to Dale Big Tree.
	I totally get it.
	Love Del Big Tree was here this week.
	I love, oh, God, it doesn't get better.
	You think you've got energy?
	I'm energy cigarettes more than I'm doing.
	I love Alex.
	How am I going to cope?
	I think you're going to feed off each other.
	It's going to be explosive.
	That'll be fun.
	So, yeah, I was very genuinely surprised that Russell is smoking a cigarette on return from the break.
	Yeah, and what is he saying he's doing in Texas?
	I couldn't understand.
	I was just fixating on the cigarette.
	What?
	So Russell is there to see Del Bigtree and going on his show.
	So like, yeah, Russell's smoking.
	Why do I know Del Bigtree's name?
	Who is he?
	Is he?
	Oh, okay.
	I'll tell you about Del Bigtree in just a second.
	He's a real sack of shit.
	But yeah, for Russell, I'm like, for one who's all about, you know, living clean and gave the big speech about not masturbating and everything else.
	and i'm like okay now you're no longer vegan and you're smoking cigarettes which i guess is the only way he can cope with his otherwise bleak existence um but like i don't want to be rude here al Cigarettes are cool.
	Oh, no.
	Here's the thing.
	I smoke cigars.
	I fucking like nicotine's fantastic.
	It's real great.
	You know, I'm not here to shit on it.
	I'm just, I'm surprised that he's doing it.
	That's the thing, though, is your cigars are whatever.
	Cigarettes are the shit.
	Like, they're the fuck.
	They fucking rule.
	Like, I have quit for five years.
	I'm never going back.
	But, you know, we great.
	Like, I had a great time in college.
	I'm not going back there again.
	Like, what are we doing?
	Yes, yeah, no, no, that's that.
	That's fair.
	But yeah, I won't argue with you.
	I've never, I've never fucked with cigarettes.
	The reason I took up cigars in the first place was in university and doing creative musicianship and a vocal degree specifically.
	Like, I couldn't smoke anything properly.
	Whereas with cigars, because you don't inhale and it gets in through your saliva glands, the nicotine does, it wouldn't fuck up my voice.
	So I was like, ah, I can have something that takes the edge off of all of this bullshit.
	Is that why singers?
	Because it's a big, and that would make sense with athletes too.
	That's why athletes always smoke cigars is it doesn't affect your cardio in the same way.
	It won't affect your lungs in the same way.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's funny.
	Fuck a duck.
	Good to know.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, at least now I understand why Russell has bothered to go to Austin, Texas to the InfoWars studio, because this is the first time that he's been there since like 2013.
	The other conversations they've had have been digital.
	And so I was like, why is this one different?
	And it's because he's booked to do Del Bigtree's show.
	So he's hitting Alex up on the way.
	So Del Bigtree was RFK Jr.'s communications director of his presidential campaign.
	And now he's the CEO of the Maha Alliance.
	And before that, he was the producer for Vaxed, which is a film based on Andrew Wakefield's entirely bullshit claims about it.
	I was going to say he's the Andrew Wakefield film guy.
	I know who Del Bigtree is.
	Yeah.
	100% is.
	Yeah.
	So like the film was very anti-vaccine, very pro-Andrew Wakefield.
	And when I say pro-Andrew Wakefield, what I actually mean is that he ended up being both the writer and director for Vaxed.
	In reviewing the film, Indy Wire said that Wakefield doesn't just have a dog in this fight.
	He is the dog.
	Anyway, yeah, Del Bigtree has his own show where he interviews anti-vaxxers and shitheads along those lines.
	So we have Russell's appearance on that to look forward to.
	So that'll be fun.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, just imagine that there's a guy out there who has a weirder show than that that's weirder than Alex Jones and Russell Brand being together.
	Like, will Russell wear the same robe to the Del Bigtree episode?
	I would love it if he did.
	Oh, certainly.
	I would absolutely love it.
	It wouldn't shock me equally.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I think Del Bigtree has some shitty new movie out as well.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Is it called Faxed?
	Here's some facts about Vaxed.
	Fuck off.
	It was something else.
	Why is all of your energy that of a suddenly smug high school student body vice president?
	Actually, according to the guidelines.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's all about like, show me the double blind burger burger study.
	And I'm like, well, I'm.
	Fucks.
	Fuck off, mate.
	I can, but you'd take issue with it anyway.
	You know, you'd find some reason to fucking discard it because there's money to be made.
	So from here, Russell elaborates on the world he wants to see come to fruition.
	And I don't think it looks good.
	I think they realize, don't you, Alex, that, oh my God, independent media is going to lead to independent politics.
	It hasn't reached that point yet.
	People are still willing to vie in the 50-50 war between e.g. Republicans and Democrats instead of recognizing that what you need is the deceleration of centralization and maximal subsidiarity.
	Firstly, your individual sovereignty as a principle under God, as an agent under God.
	Decentralization is victory.
	Yes.
	And so in a way, what I like about that is it diffuses the culture war.
	If there are in earnest, devout people on the left that strongly believe in, for example, gender fluidity, why oughtn't they have their own communities?
	Why oughtn't they have their own systems?
	As long as those of us that are Christian can have our own Christian systems, secularism has to be reviewed and understood because secularism might mean the separation of church and state, but the state is a church.
	It's the most extreme shit.
	Fuck yeah, Curtis Armin bullshit.
	Here we fucking destroy you.
	And the only reason it's not destroying you is because you are an irrelevant node in its web.
	It already has.
	Go against it.
	This is key.
	It is about playing victims.
	I'm an overcomer.
	If you challenge the system, you will be attacked.
	If you're not being attacked, you're not doing the job.
	Yes.
	Yes, that's right.
	It means that you.
	I said, like, you follow me, you'll be persecuted.
	Yeah, they hated me.
	They're going to hate you.
	People think, oh, God, I don't want that.
	No, it's the persecution is what empowers you.
	That I do believe.
	They are both empowered by persecution complexes.
	You also see in these sort of movements now, the persecution has become part of a badge, as it always does in these moments of the idea of the longer you've been in war venerates you as a soldier, the longer you've been in this culture, war venerates you as a cultural figure.
	So it becomes part of a legitimizing factor of your own lore.
	Part of the reason why Alex Jones will claim, I have to be right.
	They tried to take me off every social media platform.
	And it's, no, what actually happened was every social media platform, YouTube in particular, realized that they were about to adjust their algorithm to such an addictive force.
	And you were already the most profitable entity on that platform.
	And if they did that, they would be directly helping in propagandizing the entire country and they had to do something about it because you literally, and let's remember all this about Alex Jones, lied about the murder of kids for money.
	Let's never forget.
	Let's all sit down.
	And did that a lot.
	Always remember to never forget that Alex Jones has a Rolex watch because he looked into a camera and went, that father is lying about his murdered child.
	He's an actor.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	He said that and did that a lot for a long time.
	And then he texted all of his staff about how he was lying about it, which is how he got caught.
	Which is again, hell yeah.
	Yep.
	Divine, divine.
	He's on the bright side.
	He's lost a lot of his watches because he had to sell them at auction for the try and pay for this.
	Yes, as it turns out, the bankruptcy trustee has finally figured out that he was committing a variety of different bankruptcy frauds.
	Yes, yes.
	Fun times.
	So in terms of the clip, Russell has been spouting for some time how he believes secularism to be the downfall of society, that it has Luciferian tendrils to it.
	And really everything got much worse after the age of enlightenment, apparently.
	And then he's taken this belief and run with it in whatever direction suits his needs.
	In this case, it's insisting that the problem with modern government is secularism rather than it being a Christian theocracy, despite the fact that, again, technically the UK is a Christian state and most of the politicians running it are Christian, but I guess not Christian enough.
	The UK and the United States is specifically set up not to be a denominational or Christian government ever.
	Do you know this?
	Because John Adams literally said, it is not a Christian state.
	Yes, yes, exactly.
	Nevertheless, this clip does sort of encapsulate the goal that Russell ultimately has.
	He wants us all to live in tiny ethno-states based on our various beliefs and characteristics.
	He said before, he has said before, like, oh, all the African Americans can go live in that bit, the whites in that one there.
	Like, he's genuinely said this out loud into a microphone.
	And he seems to believe that the LGBTQ plus community can have their own ethno-state as well.
	Though it bears noting that this is where this is the extent of Russell's allyship these days, basically.
	There's a demographic, by the way, that points to him being aware that he's still getting a lot of attention in the United Kingdom because this is the big talking point now, which is it's, by the way, it's just an outgrowth of fucking stupid Enoch Powell dumbass rivers of blood speech.
	If it's the idea of if we all had an ethno-state, these people would just return to where they are from, not understanding, well, so under your idea, you were at one point a subject of the British Empire.
	Ergo, you were afforded certain rights of free movement within that empire.
	This person was also part of a subject of the British Empire, and you're saying that they do not get the same free movement through the empire, and why are you different than them?
	And they can't answer that question.
	You want to know why?
	Because then they realize what?
	Oh, they gave the gave away.
	That's the fun part of it.
	It's an interesting logic when they start kind of because they take it back.
	Like they usually take it back several kind of generations as well.
	And I'm like, well, if that's the logic that we're using, I'm fine because I'm Welsh.
	So like I'm actually, I'm where I'm supposed to be.
	A lot of you fuckers in England need to go back to Denmark or Norway or wherever the fuck, you know, yes, exactly.
	You need to go back to France, you know, and fucking Saxony and everything else, right?
	So I'm like, all right, how far back are we taking this situation?
	Because as far as I'm concerned, it mostly just means getting rid of you lot.
	And I'm kind of okay with that bit.
	You know?
	Oh, dear.
	But yeah, the whole kind of we'll let the LGBTQ plus people have their own little bit.
	You know, that's the extent of Russell's allyship these days, because he will tolerate our existence as long as we're nowhere near him or in his white Christian theocratic ethnostate.
	And to the uninitiated, what he's saying can sound like tolerance, whereas actually he just wants us fucking gone because we don't fit with the literal reading of the Bible.
	That's his position now.
	I mean, I'm even more cynical.
	I don't actually think he believes that.
	I think it's just it's the current talking point that will keep his audience at some level of growth at this point.
	Because we're in the post-Tucker Fuentes world, so everyone has to be a little bit more mask off on who they're actually appealing to.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure.
	Well, I mean, he's been going much more down that road, like since the baptism and everything else, because everyone's been shouting at him about various things that are not allowed under Christianity.
	And he's like, yeah, okay, it does say that in the Bible.
	Fine then, gay people, fuck you.
	And that's pretty much where he's standing.
	Whereas the tiny theocratic ethnostates, that's been his position for a good several years now.
	So, you know, he's at least sticking with that bit.
	Well, great.
	Consistency is always important, I guess.
	Go fuck yourself.
	Oh, it's rare among this space, I'll say that.
	So, so, yeah.
	Oh, and don't forget, if you're not being attacked, it's because you're in a relevant node and you're not doing your job.
	And I'm sure that mindset won't lead to fomenting conflict in any way.
	I do love the, you always know you're over the target because that's when you get the most fire.
	Or you're going through a psychotic break.
	That's the other thing you never take into account.
	Literally.
	When the allegations against Russell came out and he put his video out defending himself preemptively, the top comment was, oh, if you're getting attacked, it's because you're over the target.
	That was the top fucking comment on that YouTube video.
	And I'm like, yeah, you cunts.
	It's such an interesting defense because it's basically like any.
	Oh, you want to know why they accused me of it?
	Because of the thing that you're going through.
	Right, right.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, remember that thing that you're going through?
	Me too.
	How about that?
	Isn't that cool?
	Jesus.
	So, speaking of conflict, anyway, Russell asks Alex how we know when to fight.
	And Alex does have a bit of a worrying answer.
	So, how do we move away?
	See, when you say, you know, I loved what you said before the show, as well as everything you said during it.
	Like, when you said that at one moment, it's time for turn the other cheek, bring it on.
	Like in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, you've got to know whether you're in survive, escape, control, or submit.
	You know, sometimes I know that I'm in survive mode.
	I'm under attack.
	You know, like you, when you're fully in that 1.5 billion lawsuit stuff, as long as you don't die or kill yourself or go crazy, you're winning.
	Because that is survival's victory.
	Survival is victory in that.
	But how do we know when we transition from turn the other cheek to change your cloak for a sword?
	How do we know when it's that time?
	Is it the sign of the times?
	Will you see the profits accumulating and coming together?
	Will you hear their rhetoric?
	Will you see that families are divided, that homes are divided?
	Will you see that there will be two men working in a field?
	One will be taken.
	Will you see it and feel it in yourself?
	Will you know that the old man has to die?
	That Adam has to die so that the new man Christ can be born.
	That that which was made of the earth must die so that that which is made of the spirit.
	It's clear when physical attack you defend.
	But people that say, although you and helmets come ready for war, they're not coming to you and helmets.
	It's bureaucracy.
	You have to informationally kill it.
	The Pentagon admits 95% of war is informational.
	So people will sit back and go, oh, I'm waiting for the war.
	The war is now.
	Yeah, we're in it.
	Why you better exercise that now?
	Or you'll never have the will to actually, if we fail, have to go to physical, which we don't want to go to.
	Yes, yes.
	And I suppose this country is unique in a way because of your constitutional rights.
	Our people are ready.
	Yeah.
	And I've been holding them back.
	I'll say that lightly.
	I mean, seriously, I'm holding them back.
	All the military, the veterans, they're ready.
	They're not going to go kill cops or random people on the street.
	They're going to fight black people during a fake race war.
	They got lists like Santa Claus.
	And I tell the left that, like, you need to really understand, like, it's once the violence kicks off, it's going to be very quick.
	It's not.
	Yeah, I'm going to go big if true on that one.
	Yeah.
	Conceptually, the idea of all the military and veterans being desperate to go out and assassinate a hit list of left-wingers is quite chilling.
	And apparently, the only thing holding them back is Alex Jones.
	I mean, well, yeah, Alex Jones, he has said this before.
	This is from the period of time when he was the tip of the spear of the Patriots.
	So during the Bundy standoff and the mull here, it's a bunch of stupid shit from 2014 that no one needs to know about, but it stinks and it sucks.
	And that's kind of, I think, what he's implying.
	Or it's just, I think Alex Jones has had a couple of pops under the desk and now wants to go home.
	Yeah, yeah, entirely believable.
	Yeah.
	I did also see that apparently there's been a sharp uptick over the last year of people of color and queer people buying a lot more guns in the U.S. because of all of this rhetoric.
	And like, you know, the whole when two men are working in the field and one is taken, that's a verse from Matthew about Judgment Day that Russell is quoting.
	But all I could fucking think of was, yeah, one of them's been taken by ICE.
	That's what's happened in that situation.
	I was like, yeah.
	Yeah, it's an interesting way of being like, and they're taking people in the fields.
	Oh, yeah, I can think of some real world corollaries to that point.
	you're on their side I don't mean that man I don't mean that man yeah Oh, God.
	But, you know, he's a migrant himself, but he's firmly against migrants these days as well.
	You know, again, you should stay in your own bit of ethno-state.
	Damn right.
	Get it.
	Yeah.
	So now Russell gets to the subject of trying to institute change and how entrenched things are in government, etc.
	But in doing so, he sort of ties himself in knots without realizing it.
	You know, when I was like, when Secretary Kennedy was coming in, I talked to people that were going to take some of the roles in that administration.
	And I said, even when you try to solve a simple problem like food stamps being primarily spent on toxic and sugary food, even if you were to address just one problem like that, you have to dismantle big agriculture, big food, big pharma.
	These systems are so entrenched.
	This is not democracy.
	This is not the democracy of your revolution.
	This is not the democracy of your constitution.
	This is the democracy of global imperialism that seeks to enslave by other names by dependency.
	If you are dependent on them, if they have become your God, you are enslaved once more, regardless of your ethnicity.
	And categories of slavery are not much to quibble and quarrel about.
	If we're going to be in some open penitentiary prompted and controlled by their phony fake stimulants, the only answer can be a breakout, a revolution, an uprising.
	And the goal, the shared goal, can only now be subsidiarity, decentralization, control of your own community, control of your own family, control of your own life.
	So, on the one hand, we need maximal subsidiarity, decentralization, and maximal control of your own community, your own family, your own life.
	But on the other hand, you shouldn't be allowed to use food stamps to buy the food you want because it has sugar in it.
	It's also the issue he's wanting to address: you don't need to include food stamps.
	You need to change the manufacturing standards for food products in the United States.
	Like, all those companies have to make the good, clean version that goes to Canada.
	That's the thing that no one talks about.
	What it requires regulation is what it requires.
	It's very simple.
	Yeah, it's really easy.
	It turns out.
	Because it's the same in the UK.
	We've got much higher food standards over here.
	That's why any person from America who goes abroad loses about 15 pounds because all of the chemicals aren't in the food, so your body can just process them and then just nearly as inflamed, all of that sort of stuff.
	There's just way less corn syrup and everything.
	Yeah, there's less sugar, less, less, less everything, generally speaking.
	Yeah, and also like taking kind of his idea a little bit further, I can't quite prove this because I've got a lack of information, but I suspect what Russell is saying about global imperialism enslaving people via dependency is that basically if you're if you're on welfare of any sort, then you are in fact a slave to the state and therefore that should be abolished because it's slavery, you know?
	And I'm like, ooh, that's that's that's that's not great.
	Um also logic.
	Yes.
	Um also Russell doesn't know much about American history because this absolutely is the democracy of the American Revolution and Constitution.
	America was set up predominantly by rich white slave owners and businessmen.
	And a good chunk of what's wrong in American politics is by design.
	They're landowners.
	That's the sorry, landowners, landowners.
	John Adams was against slavery.
	Some unpaid workers on it.
	Yes.
	He wants to own it.
	No, he was.
	Oh, no.
	John Adams nearly beat the shit out of Thomas Jefferson.
	John Adams, there's it's so the founding fathers set up America so perfectly.
	There are literally accounts that are like, you know, that if we don't address slavery, it's going to lead to a civil war.
	And then they could all be like, yeah, shut up.
	Like, it's so nuts.
	Like, yeah, oh, yeah.
	100%.
	That's specifically why Alexander Hamilton, like, just like he was big anti-slavery in the first portion of his career.
	And as soon as like America happened, he was like, yeah, I'm not touching that.
	And you're like, okay.
	Like, yeah, this is very clear.
	Okay, so we're getting to the last couple of clips here.
	And the way they decide to close out the show is very genuinely one of the saddest things I think I've seen from a pair of 50-year-old men.
	In closing, because this is a plug-in, don't say it didn't happen.
	You took methylene blue an hour ago.
	Did you have any effect?
	Actually, I felt pretty good.
	I feel really good.
	I mean, we can watch the show back.
	Was there a transfer?
	You certainly perked right up.
	Before it, you were a little bit like sort of a bit morose, like you had Sancho on your mind, like you're still thinking about.
	Oh, I told you hard this morning.
	500 push-ups.
	Yeah, honestly.
	Yeah, I did.
	How many sets?
	I hiked five miles.
	Yeah.
	And when he's set, are you doing like 20, 30s, 50s?
	I've got tennis elbow at the moment.
	I do 50s.
	50s.
	Hey, you're stronger.
	Yeah, let's do some push-ups together.
	Why not?
	I mean, it's been a weird evening.
	Oh, no.
	I saw this photo.
	What are we doing?
	What about out of front?
	I meant to.
	What about on the desk?
	Let the print shorts.
	I meant to give you a law.
	Okay.
	Is that methylene blue?
	It's working like a charmax.
	I'll go play in the wine shot.
	All right, here we go.
	We're doing it.
	Guess a professional.
	Make sure we get the shot first.
	You got his elbow.
	One, two, look at that.
	Can we go lower here?
	Please.
	Are you going to do enough push-ups?
	Will the system go?
	All the way up.
	He's eating sweets.
	What are you eating, Alex?
	Russell's form is struggling.
	You can't be trusted.
	Alex's form is pretty decent.
	I mean, yeah, it's pretty good.
	He's really sweating under the armpits now, though.
	Holy morse!
	Stay free!
	Stay free!
	This is like pumping the ground at the stage.
	Just stop it.
	Just kill you.
	There we go.
	I don't have to obey your system.
	I'll ride you like a mule, Jones.
	Oh, is that where that?
	So I saw this photo.
	Oh, God.
	All right, I didn't like 30.
	Yeah, we did about 30.
	We've done all right.
	That's a tie between God save the queen and God bless America.
	You got your shirt off, take mine off.
	Thank you, Alex.
	I think you're a very new one.
	This happens again.
	This all happened.
	Oh, why is he so red?
	Oh, he's on steroids.
	Pardon me, that's why.
	You mad old conspiracy theory, silver back you.
	I just like here.
	We have tip of the spear, Alex Jones.
	Tomorrow's news today, Alex Jones, exposing Bohemian Grove, Alex Jones, and Russell Brand, who was in Hollywood movies and used to perform comedy to arenas of 20,000 people in this country in his height.
	And here we are now watching the same two men, shirtless, having just done a push-up competition to get to 50, and both of them only got to 36 apiece.
	And of course, Russell rode Alex for a brief moment, which is totally normal and fine.
	Hell yeah.
	Man, they're cool.
	I'm just like, man, I hope that's what I'm doing when I'm 50.
	That's what I'm going to be doing when I'm 50.
	They can't stop it.
	Drinking some milk.
	I'm so happy I said I was running out of time when we got that clip because I've seen that photo and I didn't realize.
	I thought they posed.
	I didn't realize it just led to a push-up competition of some description.
	Good.
	Yep.
	No, it's, you know, they were competing the whole time, and this is where this is just inevitably where this is going to end up.
	Jesus.
	Okay, so there's one more clip here.
	And I play it because Russell was making what I thought was a joke until an actual Alex Jones-affiliated product flashes up on screen.
	I use a lovely beef tallow to keep Alex Jones's nipples fresher than ever.
	If you tallow those nipples good, then Bill Gates can suck upon those teats like Romulus and Remus.
	Exactly.
	Bill Gates, if you want to survive in nature, you better start drinking that methylene blue, son.
	That's a great ending.
	Russell Mugger.
	Jesus.
	Rona Pro Moment.
	Come back.
	Cover the dish.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	So the product that's been left up on screen is the optimal human grass-fed tallow balm with raw honey to restore, hydrate, and protect.
	It locks in moisture, supports skin barrier integrity, calms irritation, is non-comedogenic, and ultra-clean.
	It's beef fat you're supposed to use as a moisturizer.
	And if you want a single tub every 30 days on a subscription, you can get this moisturizing beef fat for the low, low price of $30 for two ounces.
	God, I was...
	I was delighted when that came up on the screen.
	I was like, oh, I thought Russell was just talking shit.
	Phenomenal.
	Oh, I'm thrilled.
	I'm very, very thrilled.
	Oh, dear.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, I can't believe I now know that that happened.
	Yeah, John.
	How was this foray into InfoWars with Russell for you?
	I mean, I sadly, I know too much about what's happening in fours.
	It didn't surprise me, but it just, what was great was seeing them hate each other.
	What was nice was seeing two men who are like, hey, you're doing my thing.
	And like, even with this whole thing of InfoWars, stay free, like, yeah, wild.
	Yeah, like, there is like, like, Russell fucking loves Alex, and I don't think Alex has any issue with Russell, but they are just constantly competing.
	Like you say, like two fucking siblings in a room, you know, like it's yeah, it's just this weird fight between them.
	Or two people with narcissistic personality disorders.
	You know what I mean?
	There's a bunch of different ways to skin this cat.
	Yeah, yeah, that one feels a lot closer to the bone to my mind.
	Doesn't that feel like the real one?
	Oh, God.
	Well, John, thank you so much for coming on.
	Where can people find you and your family?
	John Hastings on all fine social media's brand new two comedy specials on YouTube right now, live at the mall.
	A somewhat special.
	Please go see it.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah.
	How many comedy specials have you got up there now?
	Like eight or something?
	Ten?
	Fuck.
	Dude, you keep adding them.
	I mean, let's see.
	So much content.
	And it's again, it's a content game.
	It is a content game.
	No, it's amazing.
	Here, audience, go and watch some of John's comedy.
	There's so much of it all for free for you to watch.
	Go do it.
	Do it up, bros.
	Thank you so much.
	I am now going to go discuss my last will and testament.
	Enjoy.
	I hope it.
	I hope it will.
	I hope it goes well.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I hope it goes well.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess.
	I guess.
	All right.
	Thank you, John.
	And that's the show, everybody.
	Please go and check out the comedy specials of John Hastings and also follow him on Instagram.
	He regularly shares comedy on there.
	So it's a good time.
	Links will, of course, be in the description.
	On brand, we'll be back soon.
	But in the meantime, take care of yourselves and each other.
	Thank you very much.
	I love you.
	Bye.
	All right.
	I'm going to finish now because I'm hungry and I want to eat something.
	All right.

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