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Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing.
I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory?
That's sort of like a poem.
Is this Eminem?
Man, if we didn't come together in that stream.
I'm assuming it was just the Pete.
Now, these are the kind of conversations I think that the legacy media can no longer compete with.
Win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one, Russell Brand.
I'm Al Worth, and each week I go through an episode of Brand's Show with my co-host, Lauren B. That's me, I'm Lauren B. And I'm the host that has nary a clue as to what we're getting into, but I don't think I use that word right.
Whatever.
Anyway, it's usually bad.
It's almost invariably bad, which is why we do the good thing before the bad thing.
And Lauren, what is your good thing before the bad thing this week?
I mean, so I kind of had my head down working and working, so there's not a lot of extra stuff happening.
But I did have my first extended unsupervised screen printing day yesterday to get ready for this thing, which again, if you're in around the Lubbock, Texas area this weekend, this coming weekend, this Friday, It's either the 6th or the 8th.
Anyway, it's this coming Friday.
I'm going to be at Charles Adams Projects from 6 to 10.
It's UFOs Over Lubbock.
It's like one of the best and coolest things that we get to do all year.
And so, yeah, screen printing went well.
There was a couple of hiccups, but for the most part, Can't tell me nothing.
It went great and I'm very very proud of myself because it's like you know it's easy to think that you're doing a good job when you're like the little kid on the lap driving the car you know like when your dad's actually driving and you're just sitting there and I'm like that's usually what I get when Mike is helping me and so feeling a little bit of independence and and I mean like oh I can do this and a couple of times like he came by I was like oh Those look really good.
That's what I always go, it was like, oh.
Like when someone's surprised at how well things are going, that to me, that's like, I'm a bit of a perfeccione, so.
Really?
I've never known this about you.
- It's working so... - Yes, it has. - Get on my level, bitches.
But yeah, it was really good.
And so that's very cool.
And actually, yeah, I'm surprised.
And I get to use entirely reclaimed everything.
Dickies work amazing.
And they're everywhere.
Like old bad dickies that don't fit, and they're too short, and all this kind of stuff.
Well, I can use them.
And old aprons from like waiting tables at a job you hate.
The black apron.
Oh my god, it works amazing for patches.
Holy shit.
So, being able to reuse the specific type of thing.
Always makes me happy.
So anyway.
Very nice.
Yeah.
Stressful.
Certainly getting ready for everything.
Like mega, mega stressful.
But that was a nice... I'll really be able to celebrate in like two weeks.
That's usually how my emotions are.
Yeah, yeah.
When it's all out the way.
It's actually like, yeah, it settles in.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
That's really, really cool.
Yeah.
So what's your good thing?
My good thing is very simple, but my daughter has lived long enough to turn four.
And you know what?
That's an achievement for me, but also a great day for her.
It was her birthday and she had a little party and everything, so I went down there.
And it was a wonderful time.
Everything was unicorns.
Every single thing.
Oh, throwback!
Okay.
She loves unicorns.
That is her obsession.
Her favorite show is Unicorn Academy on Netflix.
Cannot tear her away from it in any shape or form.
It's a little too grown up for her, but she loves it.
But yeah, there was unicorn decorations, unicorn masks, unicorn balloons, unicorn food, unicorn dress, unicorn cake, unicorn Everything was unicorns.
There were unicorn milkshakes.
So many, so many things.
It was great.
But the main thing was she had a really lovely time and her little best friend was over and they were playing and just having a great time.
And some of my family were there as well.
And it was, yeah, just a very wholesome little delight, you know, which is good.
And she'd been agitating for a birthday party anyway, so it's like, okay, fine.
We'll do the thing.
And yeah, she loved it.
And she ate all the things she wasn't supposed to eat all day.
And I'm like, well, I can't argue.
It's your birthday.
So yeah, fair enough.
Oh, you want more crisps.
Sounds like your birthday.
Yeah, exactly.
Literally.
Oh, you want more cake and to just eat the icing off the cake.
Again, I can't argue.
It's your birthday.
All right.
Well, fine.
Let's do it.
So that was good.
Yeah, that was a pleasant time.
So speaking of my good thing, because I will be in Texas, kind of hard to do, and very busy, kind of hard to do a live stream.
And also, it's a weird, we've been doing the second Sunday, and this month started on a Sunday, and I have been tricked oh so many times.
Yeah, like having a five Sunday month.
Um, so I, well, you know, we talked about it and it's like, seems reasonable that like, I'm not going to be here and it's going to be a giant pain.
And, and, and also it's like one day later and then we would be on like what the 15th, I think.
So we're going to be doing the.
Yeah.
Technically the third Sunday, but it falls in the teens, so it's gonna feel like the second Sunday of the month to do our livestream.
15th, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Correct, yeah.
That'll be usual time, 2pm CST, 8pm GMT, and yeah, super looking forward to it, and everyone is welcome to come along.
It'll be up on the YouTubes, and I'll post the link everywhere as well, so that'll be cool.
Yeah, and I have fun, I didn't wanna miss out this time, Yes yes no we we can't we can't have that at all um so yeah that'll be that'll be super duper fun and it'll be great to see everybody there.
Cool.
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And this week, we took a little look at a Q&A session Russell did on his local's channel for his supporters.
And what came was a lot of tarot drama and pissed off Christians, which was fun.
We're getting into the relig.
So for listeners, I don't feel like it's going to trigger a lot of, well, Well, maybe.
I don't know.
Like, religious trauma?
But I feel in a cathartic way we're kind of addressing it.
So, yeah, if you've had especially fundamentalist American Christian experiences, I'm on your side and we're dealing with the things that he's getting into that are
Crazy because yeah we can kind of address like the there's a behind the scenes that isn't his like weekly show where he's got this kind of drama playing out like the religious drama playing out with his with with his um with With his followers and then also just the wider world of like kind of Christian influencing stuff.
So yeah, if you're interested to know kind of what's going on with that because it's it's a curiosity that I feel like is running in the background all the time.
Um, you know what I mean?
So like, with just Russell in general, not Russell this week, or whatever, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think what I particularly enjoy is that he keeps making these decisions that are making him miserable.
And it is really fun to just watch him be constantly hoisted on his own petard.
Calculate, made poor calculations.
I think he's so much more surprised.
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
Don't think he realized what he was signing up to.
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So, this week, well, it's been a lot of shitting on Kamala Harris for a start.
Predictable.
Neil Oliver made a return appearance, sat in the studio with Russell doing the usual show for 20 minutes and then it was just the two of them having a chat, and I damn near had another existential crisis.
In fact, I almost started cutting clips and then I was like, you know what?
One person having to suffer this is enough.
We don't need to put the audience through these two idiots saying absolutely nothing.
You said you loved it!
You said you loved it and you would want to watch it for hours and hours and hours.
No, no, no.
I loved the clip of forcing them to watch the consequences of the things that they're supporting.
That I loved.
Everything else, heavy no.
I'm not going to put the audience through that a second time, at least not for the second week in a row, and it was so incredibly dumb.
So instead, we have a different guest to get to, albeit briefly, because it was a little bit of a short interview.
We've got a good chunk of main show to get to first.
So as ever, let's see Russell's introduction of the show.
Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today to stay free with Russell Brand.
A particular welcome to all of you from the Bongino Army, like Bethann 12 and Loris Mann.
You are most welcome here.
Thanks for joining us for our live stream in which we'll be discussing Kamala Harris.
Was it a platitude by numbers interview?
Was it a softball interview?
Was it functional enough to keep her out of the spotlight until November?
You will decide.
Surely, people of America, people of the world, No, no, just the people of America, Russell.
The rest of the world doesn't get to decide on that one.
Yeah, so Russell wants to discuss an interview Kamala Harris did with CNN, and Tim Wells was there as well actually.
His framing of it is pretty severe.
For reference, the title of this show is Kamala's Car Crash CNN Interview Breakdown, which would Indicate that supposedly it went pretty badly, at least according to Russell.
And I'm curious, did you hear anything about a car crash interview from Kamala Harris this week?
I know you've been busy there.
I, I, yes.
Here's the thing.
Up top.
Yeah.
I've been like, I was, I've been at maximum busy.
Yes.
Yeah.
I've been in this, I've been in the sewing mines with several catastrophic failures.
Oh, everyone, feel sorry for me.
My sewing machine broke.
How about that?
Yeah, right.
Great timing.
Again, that's grief that'll come months from now.
I'm heartbroken and stressed.
But, uh, so I had to, I had to scramble.
And so I am, I'm not feeling great about the, like my, um, yeah, my usual news diet and awareness is severely truncated and been impaired.
Um, I've heard about the, uh, the stuff that's not great that she said in the interview.
Um, but that not necessarily a car crash.
Yeah, I'll be interested to see if the things you heard about are the same things that Russell has decided to talk about.
That'll be interesting.
For reference, I have mentioned this before, but Dan Bongino's show ends just as Russell's begins, so a lot of the Bongino army come over and watch Russell's show.
I can't imagine being both into Dan Bongino and Russell Brand.
It doesn't feel like there should be a big overlap there, but I guess it takes all sorts, you know?
Two very different characters, you know?
But I guess it's the same kind of stuff that they're talking about, isn't it?
Yeah, but I think that people are like, I have diverse opinions.
I listen to diverse opinions.
This like, you know, like military, like bulldog man and this wayfish, spiritual wee-woo guy.
That's like, oh man, I get so many diverse opinions.
That actually sounds...
They're both saying exactly the same things, but look at the diversity of my news feed!
Not regarding the content!
Vibes only!
This is a vibes only assessment!
Before we get to that car crash interview, we have a different clip of Kamala Harris to look at.
Let's have a look at what we're up to today, you lot.
I mean, it's easy to forget, isn't it, the name of complex things like, I don't know, the Supreme Court.
What is that thing that the US government used to derail their political opponents?
He even called for termination of the United States Supreme, the supreme land of our nation, the United States Constitution.
That's right, the old supreme land of the United States of America, I think it's called.
My dog's just off camera, giving me agg.
One sec.
Good lad!
Settle down.
Okay, the dog does get a treat for anyone wondering, so that's something.
So, Russell clearly found that clip amusing, and you know what?
It is a flub.
Kamala messed up a sentence in her speech in Georgia this last Thursday.
She recovered just about, but still, yep, she fucked that one up.
Now, just for fun, I thought, you know, this is supposed to be, you know, above the left-right paradigm, this whole situation, and yet we're seeing only one side!
So I thought, you know what?
Donald Trump was speaking at a Moms for Liberty event a couple of days ago, and I thought I'd take a look at the transcript.
Sorry, I need a second for that sentence.
Yup, the full hour and a half interview is something else.
So here's him talking about Kamala, right?
She was the nastiest person to him, you remember?
She called him a racist.
Uh, the boss?
You remember the story of the boss, you know?
Fake story, probably.
Well, she also said I worked at McDonald's, it turned out.
She didn't work at McDonald's, anybody see that?
After an exhaustive study that took about 20 minutes, they found out, they found out, she never worked there.
So, you know, there's a lot of fake stuff going on, but we don't need that for a president, and our country can't stand it.
We We are really in trouble.
We're a failing nation, whether you like it or not.
And I'm sure you don't like it, but we are a very sick nation.
We're a failing nation.
And on top of it, we have millions of people in here that they can't, we can't have them if they were great, if it were, if it were, but you're not going to have people where they're emptying the doors to jails and emptying the doors to mental institutions.
Where seriously sick people are coming into our country and you, no country can stand this, there's no country can stand it, so I was not happy with him because you know I only did it because I want to help the country.
Unquote.
A thing!
If you never intend to say anything, it is impossible to flub.
If you never intend to make a point, you don't have to end at your point.
There was a sentence in there somewhere.
It's just like, when you actually just read what he has to say without the charismatic delivery and bullshit, like, holy shit, it changes the picture quite a lot.
I was just like, oh, that's astonishing.
Well, you know that.
I mean, that assessment has been made, like how he talks.
But then whenever you actually hear the way he says it, he makes perfect sense in what he's saying.
Like he's but that is I mean, like genuinely, if you don't ever have to like, you don't ever have to make a point if you're just riding the wave.
Then like the bar is so low and I do want to address also last week I made Mike sound like an absolute horrid monster behind closed doors and I'm going to make a couple right now I got in trouble and I was he was Totally correct, that I made it, he was like, wow, what did you say about me on the podcast?
I was trying to make a different point, I'm so sorry!
So he's in fact not an evil cretin.
That's, I think, is a trap that is so, that is kind of like Trump is just still doing it, which is genuinely amazing.
If he's just gonna wiggle around like an eel, right?
You can't pin him down anyway, so people are gonna stop trying, which is genuinely true.
Like you just, then there's no, like you can't pin him down anyway.
- Yeah. - So people are gonna stop trying, which is genuinely true.
- Yeah.
- And yeah, if it's all a flub, it's impossible to flub.
The whole thing!
They made the whole plane out of the black box!
Does it work?
No!
But somehow it still survives, I don't know.
It's composed of entirely flub!
So then...
The bar is so low, and also she looks tired, man.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think it's, you know, making one fuck up in a speech with the kind of schedule that you have and everything, I think it's forgivable.
It's fine.
It's really fine.
I can't imagine the...
The incredible lack of sleep and work and stress and everything else that goes into that.
It sounds hellish, I don't know why anyone would ever want the job.
Anyway!
Either way, I think I know which of those two I would trust to give a speech, let alone run a country.
Oh dear.
Also, the McDonald's thing is funny.
Have you seen the drama around Kamala Harris?
Yes.
And working at McDonald's?
Oh my god.
Well, she didn't work at McDonald's because she didn't put it on her 1987 CV where she was trying to get a job in the DA's office.
She didn't put it on there.
I'm like, I wonder why?
It's a mystery as to why she didn't include it.
But also, even that?
Like, genuinely?
Yes.
Kid summer job.
This has ended, by the way.
This is now an outmoded concept, but as soon as I heard all that, I'm like, whatever, because kid working at McDonald's, that's like shorthand.
It's like saying Kleenex when you mean facial tissue.
It's just my summer job at McDonald's or whatever.
You can say Burger King, you can say Wendy's, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's hilarious.
It's stolen valor with fries, is what it is, and I'm enjoying that they're so up in arms about it.
They are reaching!
They need to make sure to stretch every morning.
Drink a lot of water.
Like, you're reaching!
Yeah, they're gonna pull something if they're not careful.
Definitely gonna pull something.
Anywho, next Russell brings up a rumour that's been flying around.
I feel a lot more optimistic about November since Bobby Kennedy joined the Trump campaign.
I don't know about you.
It seems that there's going to be more people.
Did you hear there could even be a pathway for Bernie Sanders?
I mean, can you turn that off?
I'm still getting comments for turn up the volume in the rumble chat.
So I don't know, maybe just turn it up significantly if you don't mind, guys.
Is that all right?
Thank you.
Is that possible and plausible?
A lot of people don't want the sunglasses on as well.
That's gone in an instant.
Look at that.
Immediately amended.
Is it possible that a politician so associated with the left could become a MAGA candidate?
That's pretty astonishing to contemplate.
The sunglasses thing becomes a whole saga, it's not the end.
But yeah, the idea of Bernie Sanders joining Trump is pretty astonishing.
Joining Trump?
Yeah, that's what he was saying.
Is there a possibility of Bernie Sanders endorsing Trump?
There's been a rumour flying around on Twitter, predominantly of course, that supposedly Bernie Sanders might join the Trump campaign and later be a part of his cabinet.
And this is off the back of, I know, this is off the back of two things specifically.
One is RFK Jr.
saying, oh, more Democrats will come out in support of Trump.
And, I mean, it was Tulsi Gabbard and she was barely a Democrat in the first place and neither were you, Jr.
But Owen Schreuer of InfoWars, Alex Jones's outfit, tweeted out... I know.
There were like three people.
Who do you think will join Team America next?
Bernie Sanders?
Cornel West?
Marianne Williamson?
Dean Phillips?
Cenk Uygur?
Who will it be?
Great.
So that kind of started off a little bit of speculation.
And the other thing is a few days ago Trump proposing a policy that the US government or insurers will be legally mandated to pay for IVF treatment if he is re-elected, which has been described by one former Trump strategist as a Bernie Sanders-like policy.
Also, I bet that's causing a storm somewhere among the Christian right, as we've discussed.
Yeah, the speculation is nothing short of hilarious, but it serves the interests of Trump to make it seem like it's a possibility, so Russell is going along with it.
Like, oh, Trump is such a renegade, he can get the far left and the far right.
Look, he got RFK Jr., who was supposedly a Democrat once, and now he may even get Bernie Sanders, you know, because he's just such a... he's an all-out-there guy.
Okay.
For the record, Bernie is still tweeting daily about Trump being a piece of shit, and this year has repeatedly said that voting for Trump will be the end of democracy.
Just for the record.
I don't see it likely, you know?
Denver the last dinosaur is about as likely.
He's our friend and a whole lot more.
Not gonna be in Trump's cabinet.
Wow.
And also, if you understand that reference... Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
If you understand that reference... I'm sorry, your back hurts.
Jesus Christ.
That's so... How does one... That's wish casting, by the way.
- Yeah, yeah. - In 2015, 2016, right?
Starting in 2015, 2016, I was positive that people just wanted a yelly old guy that cared about them.
And I've been argued into the dirt about this.
Bernie would have, like, 'cause it was a vibes-based election. - Mm-hmm.
The vibe was, we need grandpa to work it out.
We need grandpa to give a shit and work it out.
Be nicer than my grandpa.
Or meaner, as the case may be.
Louder, yeah.
The feeling I got was, you know, especially with why Hillary didn't win is, you know, she was offering basically, more of the same!
I'll do more of the same, right?
We'll do that.
Whereas both Trump and Bernie were stood up there saying, this thing is fucked in very different ways.
But that's what the message was, you know, and I think that's why both of them were popular.
It's like, hey, change of some description.
Right, and not popular enough.
I mean, obviously, like, name recognition and the, you know, resume that I had.
I mean, the content of the resume and the effect of the resume of Hillary Clinton, I took massive issue with, but the fact that there was a lot of entries upon it.
Yeah.
Counted a lot, I guess.
Yeah, people didn't want more of the same.
Yeah.
And I feel like there was, there could have been a very different reality where people would be totally fine with accepting like quote-unquote socialists, like caring about each other.
Yeah.
Caring about your neighbors could have, it could have been totally different, but also like Al Gore.
Yes, yeah.
And hello, popular votes.
Yeah, yeah.
We'd still be in a very different world if the person who won the most votes became president twice in my lifetime.
And that's, yeah, would I have my druthers?
Would I pick Hillary Clinton?
No.
Would I have, I was still like, I was shocked that it went the way it did.
And that's, it is so, Yeah.
It was so shocking to engage with and have that happen in a reality.
But genuinely, I think that they just somebody wanted like a a familiar old dude that made him feel good and cared about him in some way.
Yes!
'Cause like, also even all the MAGA people, what's crazy is that they're yelling about, like they want a lot of the things that Bernie Sanders has fought for his entire career.
And Trump is neither capable of, intends to do, or even really understands, but they're just like, but he's yelling and it makes me feel good.
And that's it.
Yeah, it's like they don't realize that the things that they want are actually socialist and that's a good thing.
It's amazing.
I was discussing the UK general election the other day and talking about how Corbyn got more votes, you know, than Keir Starmer ever did.
And I was given the hypothetical situation, like, can you imagine if Bernie Sanders had become president in 2016 somehow and then Jeremy Corbyn became Prime Minister.
Imagine what that world would look like.
I was like, holy shit, it would just be socialist old men running off the world.
I'm like, goddamn, that sounds great.
I mean, I already had that whole ass feeling once.
So I was like, right?
With Al Gore, like that's, that's, um, I mean, I'm just, it's truly un-fucking-fathomable.
Unfortunately.
But yeah, I mean, that's, that's kind of right.
Anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
Lost it.
We're moving on.
I feel like the point has been made.
Maybe we'll get there.
We'll get back to that point at some point.
Jesus Christ.
Anyway.
No, we can't.
It already happened.
We have to make a new point that works and is good.
That's what we need to build.
Not with those specific people.
I mean, hopefully we'll get back to, you know, socialism kind of actually, actually taking the forefront in some direction and being successful.
That would be lovely.
Well, I try to like, and I make this point on the show all the time, and I think it bears repeating that, like, Back is not going to work.
We have to envision a future where this is functional and where we can actually keep the world livable for humans.
Absolutely.
Because Earth is going to be fine.
We're not going to be fine.
Yeah, we're the ones in trouble.
Well, this is all intrinsically linked, right?
So that's, that's, and that's also, yeah.
Absolutely.
I think there's a lot of, this is what it's going to, there's a lot of wish casting.
I find that incredibly telling that they are trying to co-op Bernie Sanders now.
That's amazing to me.
Because also that means that like, oh, we got RFK, but actually he's a disaster.
So like, well, we really wanted him, but now that we got him, Hide your whales, hide your bears.
Hide all living creatures.
They're decapitating everybody up in here.
And they're like, oh, maybe we don't like RFK as much as we thought.
And now they're wish casting about Bernie.
Oh, it's remarkable.
You know what I'm saying?
I think they liked him the whole time and had to lie about it.
Yeah.
I think so.
I think so.
It's fun in the meantime.
I'm not frustrated.
You're frustrated.
Now, from here, Russell plays a video from RFK Junior, something that the RFK Junior campaign has made, and it goes from dumb to unhinged very quickly.
Who would have imagined that Bobby Kennedy would be making a video like this?
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Yeah, what's wrong with that?
I think that's pretty good.
Yeah, it's pretty good!
Okay, so Kamala Harris is an Orwellian totalitarian communist, apparently.
Cool stuff.
Honestly, I'm genuinely not sure I've seen a piece of media more condescending than that one, you know?
Like, for the people who don't like Trump, that's like...
You know, it's remarkable.
It's remarkable.
And yeah, way too long.
One, it looks like it's from the fucking Onion.
Or yeah, the Daily Show also, the Onion would have kept it fucking snappy.
That one is three times too long.
So back, I think this is in the winter, a different off-brand that I did was like a, you know, kind of like logical fallacy and talk, oh no, we're talking about like kind of abusive rhetoric and stuff.
Like, they're telling people, you're programmed from the media to believe these things.
That's just a lot.
Completely throwing out the notion entirely that people are making assessments based on facts and actual events that happened.
Yeah, it's completely... You said and did the thing, and I have come to a conclusion from all the things you said and did.
Yeah, this is it.
It's suggesting that no one could possibly have a legitimate grievance with Donald Trump.
You know, that actually it's just TDS.
That's the whole thing.
And obviously that little ad there was not directed to turn anyone.
You know, that's not supposed to get anyone on side with Trump.
That is to tell the Trumpers what to think about us.
That's how that functions.
It's deny.
Deny is the most effective.
Genuinely.
It seems to work.
Because if you just deny that it even happened and it's real at all, and that you don't have to attack, you don't have to reverse victim-offender, you just deny that's what that is.
Yeah, it's incredibly condescending.
It feels like a spoof.
It feels like a fucking SNL commercial from the 90s.
Yeah, it's absurd.
It's genuinely absurd.
Good God!
I think that's a big thing that I really appreciated about what I was reading up on, Darwin talked about, which I think it's easier to kind of identify and very clear-cut interpersonal things, but a lot of the literature makes a point, makes it very clear, this is a technique that is used by corporations, it is used by people in power, it is used by academia, it is used by politics.
You can apply those same like interpersonal skills and understandings to this wider kind of, I don't know, I feel like people that, you know, have had to deal with it or, you know, like, are aware of like that kind of system of like handling people around are aware of like that kind of system of like handling Use those skills.
Use those skills to, like, take a step back if you're inundated with this kind of information.
Understanding, like, they're trying to... I mean, they're trying to demonize you and call you dumb.
Like, that's not... Like, you're not imagining this stuff.
And you're not being indoctrinated.
I mean, listen, that is a thing, and it's a whole other thing.
And it's also what we're watching right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Like, obviously the greatest irony every single time, you know, from a piece like that is, oh, you'll be able to instantly recognize propaganda.
I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking looking at it.
Like, that's literally... Oh, you will?
Yes.
And you'll be thrilled.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, thank you so much.
Nom nom.
Delicious.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
The anti-narcissism thing.
I was like, oh, okay.
That's fucking, it's really dangerous.
All right.
Yeah, it's not great.
It's not great.
They're going to Russell.
It's pretty good.
What's wrong with that?
Next, Russell has another piece of media about RFK Jr., though this time coming from Twitter.
I put the sunglasses back on because some people said that I ought to.
This is the kind of placatory attitude that's got us into this mess in the first place.
What we need are static facts upon which we can rely in a chaotic and ever-moving world.
What we need is some virtues and principles that we can feel and resource from within ourselves that are abiding and ever-present.
Yes, the glory of nature suggests a creator, but more than that, The presence of a still, quiet voice within us that tells us when we're being duped and tricked and lied to.
You probably saw this on X posted by Endwokeness.
They post a lot of good things, whoever that is, you know?
Look at these time articles, Friar.
And post-RFK backing Trump, there's why ultra-processed foods are so bad for you, which I think we generally accept.
Passes the kind of blink test, doesn't it?
The idea that ultra-processed foods are going to have a negative impact.
And look at this new Time article.
What if ultra-processed foods aren't as bad as you think?
Maybe you should carry on eating them.
Okay, um, I'm gonna get to these articles in just a second, but first I do want to address what Russell said just a moment ago that, oh, Endwokeness, they post a lot of good things, whoever that is, you know, and, um, I know who that is.
Or rather, I know with near certainty who owns the Twitter account Endwokeness, and that is thanks to a YouTuber named Ryan Macbeth, who is also an intelligence analyst, software engineer, and cyber security guy who is very good at finding people on the internet.
This is basically... I love that.
He's great.
He's the guy that Mike Benz wishes he was, you know?
Anyway, Ryan Macbeth did the legwork in his video Who Is Endwokeness, which I highly recommend watching.
It's good fun.
And spoiler alert, it is none other than white supremacist alt-right shithead Jack Pasovic.
Oh, fuck you.
No.
Yup.
Yep.
It's a fun video.
Now, Jack Posobiec is one of the interviews that Russell did at the RNC, which we didn't cover because it was somehow astonishingly dull.
But there is every possibility that Russell knows exactly who Endwokeness is.
It's possible that Jack actually told him at that time.
Hey, that's me, by the way.
You know, it's believable.
So he might just be, you know, tipping his hat to Jack.
Did he say that or not?
Well, he didn't say it on camera, but I'm saying he might have let it slip to Russell, you know, in general.
So he might have been doing an intentional hat tip to Jack Pasovic there.
Anyway, these Time articles.
Now, what we have on the left is an article saying how bad ultra-processed foods are in what was a slightly alarmist article from Time magazine in January 2023.
On the right is an article saying, hey, maybe these ultra-processed foods aren't entirely evil, published on August 27th, 2024.
For reference, RFK Jr.' 's backing of Donald Trump happened on August 23rd, 2024.
The insinuation that Jack Masovic is trying to make here, obviously, is that, well, because RFK Jr.
is now with Trump, and RFK Jr.
is against ultra-processed foods, The media is suddenly going to be like, well, these ultra processed foods are great.
And it's, it's incredibly dumb on its face.
And much more likely, and even more obviously, a coincidence is all that actually is.
Like for anyone who knows anything about writing articles for like big legit magazines with editorial teams and legal teams and all that stuff, it can take months until something is published a lot of the time because there are so many hoops to leap through.
Oh, that's absurd.
Yeah.
The timing thing.
Shut up.
That's dumb.
- Yeah, yeah, it's very unlikely that this piece got put out in just four days.
But even if it was somehow put out in that four days, the article isn't saying what Russell and Jack are trying to claim.
For a start, it's now been retitled from What If Ultra-Processed Foods Aren't As Bad As You Think to Why One Dietitian Is Speaking Up for Ultra-Processed Foods.
And that happened literally within a day of publishing, and I can see that Jack Pasovic's tweet about it was roughly eight hours after the title had already been changed.
So he's very intentionally using the original title to make this little point.
I love when you can tell the creators didn't make it in real time.
Like, oh, you had it saved and you're not changing it?
You had that post scheduled?
And damn the torpedoes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I either had it scheduled or went back to look at the original title.
Or went into archives.
Yeah, which is sadder.
Whatever's lazier.
I don't know what's faster for him.
I don't know.
Taking a screenshot at the time that's like, oh, I'm going to make a meal out of this and then not ever looking at it or even reading it.
He doesn't have to read it!
I almost certainly didn't.
What the article, the second one, is actually about is a dietician who saw the demonization of ultra processed foods and got a little bit pissed off.
I'm going to read from the article quote.
It all started in the summer of 2023 when author and infectious disease physician Dr. Chris Vantolikin was promoting his book Ultra-Processed People.
While writing it, Vantolikin spent a month eating mostly foods like chips, soda, bagged bread, frozen food, and cereal.
What happened to me is exactly what the research says would happen to everyone, Vantolikin says.
He felt worse, he gained weight, his hormone levels went crazy, and before and after MRI scans showed signs of changes in his brain.
As Vantelican saw it, the experiment highlighted the terrible emergency of society's love affair with ultra-processed foods.
Wilson, who specializes in working with clients from marginalized groups, was irked.
She felt that Vantelican's experiment was over-sensationalized and that the news coverage of it shamed people who regularly eat processed foods, in other words, the vast majority of Americans, particularly the millions who are food insecure or have limited access to fresh food.
They also tend to be lower income and people of color.
Wilson felt the buzz ignored this food apartheid, as well as the massive diversity of foods that can be considered ultra-processed.
So a category that includes everything from vegan meat replacements and non-dairy milks to potato chips and candy.
How can this entire category of foods be something we're supposed to avoid?
Wilson wondered.
So she did her own experiment.
And like Vantolikin, Wilson for a month got 80% of her daily calories from highly processed foods, which is not much more than the average American.
And a weird thing happened.
Wilson found that she had more energy and less anxiety.
She didn't need as much coffee to get through the day and felt more motivated.
She felt better eating an ultra-processed diet than she had before.
A change she attributes to taking in more calories by eating full meals instead of haphazard combinations of whole food ingredients.
Which is what she was doing before.
So it's not as simple as like ultra processed foods equals bad.
Clearly this Wilson lady was actually making better dietary choices for her body with the ultra processed foods.
And the point that's made in the article is, you know, while gummy bears are ultra processed, so is a can of kidney beans.
You know, one is substantially healthier than the other, nutritionally speaking.
And on top of that, like, there's just a lot that we don't know yet.
And there are significant human studies still in the making about this issue right now.
You know, and yeah, there's a...
There's a plethora of problems.
Anyway, point is, Jack Berserk and Russell are full of it, is the main... Yeah, well, even looking at those, like, I think that we all have, and this horse has been beaten to death many times over, that, like...
Sensational, like headlines, like SEO and headlines has been a problem for a while.
And that headlines on an article have can sometimes be wildly misleading or incredibly sensational so that people pay attention.
So putting these two articles next to each other out the gate does not like, yeah, some ultra processed foods are so bad for you.
Some Yeah, honey buns.
Sure.
Yeah.
What if ultra processed foods aren't as bad as you think?
Canned vegetables.
Yeah.
Different.
Not that bad.
It's such, guess what else is both good and bad for you?
Sunlight.
Yeah.
Duh.
Yeah.
I mean, like with the, with the definitions, things like there, there are people who argue that, um, that milk is processed because it's been pasteurized, you know?
Right.
And you're like, oh, they sure do.
Hang on.
Oh, don't even get me started on the raw milk situation.
Jesus Christ.
That's all.
We don't have time for that.
Oh dear, oh dear.
But yeah, anyway, Jack Peservic and Russell are full of it.
So next up, Russell is having some trouble with his sunglasses again before he lets slip who the guest is later on.
Russell looks great with that, it gives it a melancholy vibe.
We're getting so much conflicting information about the glasses, I just don't know what to believe!
I need to rely on the views of a brilliant comedian, Theo Von, and a great personal development leader, Tony Robbins.
Tony will be on the show a bit later, here's the moment where Theo Von and Tony Robbins get a bit mixed up between...
Tony Fauci, and who's that other guy?
Who's that guy from the 1940s, little troublemaker guy, Adolf Hitler?
How could you even make a mistake like that?
It's like, there's an old phrase that says, tell a lie big enough, tell a lie big enough, loud enough and long enough, sooner or later people believe it.
You know who said that?
Hitler.
Oh, I thought you were going to say Fauci.
Well, same difference.
We're aligned on that one, brother.
I enjoyed that.
No, you had a nice time doing that.
Quality content, Russell, thank you.
Yeah, you know who said that?
Thomas Jefferson.
Was it Bill Shakespeare?
In reality, it wasn't Hitler, by the way.
Jimi Hendrix.
Yeah, Jimi Hendrix!
It wasn't Hitler, but it was Hitler's master propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, who said that if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
And yeah, these great dudes just want to bag on Fauci a bit, so Fauci is Hitler.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Theo von, by the way.
I put him alongside the likes of Bobby Lee in trafficking in alt-right bullshit without ever receiving the same consequences as other people who do it, and I'm like...
You're a problem.
You're a problem, sir.
Go fly a kite.
Maybe in time.
I mean, that clip with Trump, the cocaine owl streetlight thing.
Hilarious.
The thing is, is I bet that if he could have just talked about the things that he knows, just like Joe Rogan or whoever, right?
Like, there is a subset of the world that you have, have like concrete experience.
Also, like, it's the stuff they'll push back on, you know?
Like, I think that Rogan is very, like, I think whenever Liver King was like, that all that was coming out, Rogan was like, completely in the right.
Because he's like, nah, that dude's on steroids.
You can't.
Because he knew what he was looking at!
He's incredibly well versed at what he was looking at.
And so that, like, listen, UFC, I will defer to the Rogan.
Sure.
If that could have just been where y'all kept it, fine.
There is a degree of a feedback loop that turns these people wackadoo when maybe you don't need to do that, but you do because of the content mill and the treadmill, right?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And yeah, as Russell mentioned, motivational speaker Tony Robbins is going to be on the show in just a little bit.
That's something fun to look forward to.
Oh, let's party.
I fucking hate that guy.
With good reason.
And we'll get into that.
We will get into that.
However, we still have that car crash interview to get to.
And even before that, we're going to look at another interview featuring none other than Don Lemon.
When you watch, as I occasionally do, Inside... Is it Inside with Jen Psaki?
I know it's got a sort of oddly evocative... The glasses are going back on.
I mean, it's causing a lot of trouble over there.
When you watch Inside or within Jen Psaki, it's got some sort of vaguely evocative title.
You will see how propaganda works and how people can move from White House press office to MSNBC or CNN pundit almost effortlessly.
Indeed, we'll be watching and picking apart, with great scrutiny, the Kamala Harris, Tim Waltz, CNN propaganda gambit after we leave you guys on YouTube.
But first, let's have a look at one of the great harbingers of state propaganda, Jen Psaki, talking to Don Lemon, Cast out to the periphery, Don Lemon.
Cast out to the periphery.
It's telling Jen Psaki that not all black people loathe Donald Trump.
Let's have a look at her astonishment when she learns that.
Was there anything, what did they think about Harris?
Did they have anything to say about her?
They did have... With Jen Psaki.
Listen, um... Glasses are crooked, excuse me.
It depends on where you are.
We went to a number of different battleground states in Pennsylvania, Ohio, we were in Michigan, Indiana, on our way, obviously, Illinois, on our way to Chicago.
And it sort of depended on where you were.
Pennsylvania, well, I shouldn't say Pennsylvania, I should say Philadelphia.
Was a bit more liberal and the answers to the questions about her and him were quite different, but for the most part in Pittsburgh or in the Jersey Shore and Atlantic City in Ohio, especially many people did not know who she was.
Don't actually even know Kamala Harris.
So I think she has to reintroduce herself to the public.
But for him, I think that they thought that he's better for the economy.
And that, again, that he gave them, that he brought money into the community and that he was on black people's side.
Don't actually even know Kamala Harris.
You're going to have to work on that propaganda a little bit harder.
Uh-huh.
Um, yeah.
A bunch of the country doesn't really know Kamala Harris very well, and so she has to reintroduce herself to the public in a short space of time.
Shocking stuff, truly.
And hey, some black people are voting for Trump.
Yeah, that is a thing.
Of course, any time we see a selectively edited piece of footage like this, I do wonder, what was missing?
Um, so for context, Don Lemon has been, uh, he's been following the, um, the Harris campaign around and wandering around the country talking to black voters in, you know, in all the states that they're visiting, right, in the swing states and everything else to get a sense of things.
And immediately before this section of the interview that Russell just played, Don Lemon was explaining that, based on his interviews, a lot of black men are voting for Trump because Trump's name was on that $1,200 stimulus check that went out in 2020.
Like, oh, he gave me money, so I will vote for him.
Now, this is all according to Don Lemon, of course.
Now, obviously, Biden also sent out a stimulus check and just didn't put his name on it.
But that doesn't seem to matter.
It was smaller.
It was smaller as well.
That's true.
That's true.
And there was no name on it.
But either way, the gambit is clearly working in Trump's favor.
And then in the section of the interview immediately after the one Russell played, Don Lemon is explaining how every single black voter he spoke to that would be voting for Trump was doing so based on lies and misinformation, before he then explains yet again why Donald Trump is a liar and a vehement racist.
So they've just plucked this little piece of the clip out to be like, hey, we can make hay with this.
You know, to make it seem as though actually nobody knows who Kamala Harris is and the black community overwhelmingly think that Donald Trump is on their side.
That's what they're using this for.
Well, it's propaganda, isn't it?
Good stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, so removed of context, like thanks to Russell and, let's be honest, Gareth Roy, all we get is some black people are going to vote for Trump and a lot of the country doesn't know who Kamala Harris is.
Which, yeah.
Skewed painting of the truth.
Let's put it that way.
Well, I mean, sure, she doesn't have, like, she does not have the same name recognition.
Like, Trump is all about that.
RFK Jr.
is all about that.
People call him Bobby Kennedy.
Yeah.
Like, sure, that's a thing.
I mean, more people know who Donald Duck is.
Like, that's why she's campaigning.
Yes, exactly.
Okay.
Exactly.
Right.
Yeah, and?
But yeah, I think it's mostly about the, well, Donald Trump is good for black people thing.
But hey.
This is a lot of the shit because of the 24-hour news cycle they have to include to actually like pad out their content.
This is information for ads and for campaign strategists.
Yeah.
Is to worry about who has name recognition and who doesn't.
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah.
This is not...
Who gives a rip?
And yeah, there shouldn't be a pipeline from the government to corporations or to TV.
But guess what there is?
How are we going to stop that?
Not vibes, Russell!
Sorry!
Subscribe to his locals channel.
So let's finally get to this apparent car crash interview, shall we?
This moment, though, does make you wonder.
It's one of my favorite moments from the interview.
It's the moment where Kamala touches upon the moment where Joe Biden called her.
She uses this as an obvious opportunity to talk about domesticity and to render yet more half-arsed ersatz and phatic claptrap Here it is.
- When he called you and said he was pulling out of the race, what was that like?
And did he offer to endorse you right away or did you ask for it?
- It was a Sunday, so. - I remember the day, it was Moon Day.
- Play the fucking clip.
- Mekradi, Odin's Day, Wednesday.
It was a Sunday, the Day of the Sun.
It's named after the sun.
Here, I'll give you a little too much information.
Go for it.
There's no such thing, Madam Vice President.
That's you, Russell.
That's you.
My family was staying with us, and... I'm just regular like you.
I'm just regular like you.
I can make millions if I want to.
I can have endless wars if that's necessary.
But the whole thing is performative, isn't it?
It's gotten to the point where it's so shellacting, claptrap, that you can't really detect a reality underneath it anymore.
It was a Sunday.
I was with my family.
Subtext, I'm just like you.
Yeah, she doesn't have Sundays or families.
She's too rich.
Shut up!
Yeah.
You fucking turd.
That is, okay.
Good God.
Yeah.
So, so, you know, politicians and the wealthy trying to relate to the average voter.
I mean, you know, it can come off a little weird, but it's not something I'm going to particularly critique.
I don't think there's anything especially wrong with trying to relate to people, especially if like you want their votes or anything else.
But Russell here seems to take significant issue with it.
And I do find that interesting, because, well, obviously, for a start, Donald Trump, when he's not making a point of how much better and richer he is than everyone, will explain at length how he prefers KFC and McDonald's or whatever to fancy restaurants, right?
It's a whole thing where he's trying to appeal to the working class.
I'm just like you, except a billionaire, theoretical.
But do you know who else plays everything off as though he's just a regular, everyday, normal guy?
Russell!
Like, again, the man is among the richest 0.01% of the people on the planet.
His wealth surpasses Kamala Harris's by a significant margin.
Millions of people listen to what he says on his show, and yet every day I'm hearing about him interacting with his kids, or taking the dog for a walk, or playing Assassin's Creed on his Xbox, as though he lives the picture of a normal life.
And again, I don't have a particular critique of this on its own.
I think it's perfectly fine to share details of yourself that your audience or perhaps your voters might be interested in.
But if Russell is suddenly going to take issue with trying to seem like a regular human, he should really look in the damn mirror first.
Holy shit.
Yeah, really.
It almost feels like punching down.
Russell, you were in movies.
Yeah.
You were in movies.
You are more famous than these people.
Yes!
Right?
Yeah.
What are you doing?
I bet if you ask those same people, oh, do you know who Russell Brand is, the other ones who didn't know who Kamala Harris is, they probably know who Russell Brand is, you know?
Right, well, and like, they had real jobs.
They had to work real actual jobs.
They had to function like normal people.
Sure, maybe well off to some degree.
I don't think Tim Walz, he was a fucking teacher.
Like, no, no, no.
Let's maybe be careful about how, like, privileged, like, that's a glass house and throwing stones situation.
Yes!
Because Russell has been on, at least on fucking TV, His entire adult life, if not in movies.
And I bet it was really hard to angle and get your, I bet that was a challenge when you were young to get yourself on TV because you're not getting grandfathered.
You know, he wasn't necessarily a nepo baby about the television, but he has been detached from the reality.
Like he doesn't know, he thinks that bananas cost $10 for way longer than Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
Absolutely.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, Russell, right?
Let's try and read the damn book that you pretend that you're reading.
Especially when you're talking about the comparison is like Trump and RFK Jr.
and like, J.D.
Vance kind of used his upbringing as a cudgel and he wasn't like fucking yeah like he's had a silk like Peter Thiel silver spoon ass fucking life.
All of them are so far removed.
One of them is named R.F.K.
Junior.
Yeah.
Stupid.
Do not compare, like, don't pick that point to compare them.
It just doesn't make sense.
And also, let her fucking say it.
That's, like, it's annoying.
Even if it's not distasteful, it's fucking annoying to listen to.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Like, just let her fucking say the thing.
Yeah.
If you want to bitch about war, there's a quote in the actual interview that you can take issue with.
We'll see if he plays it.
If he doesn't, I quit.
From here, Kamala Harris gets to the actual call where Biden told her that he was stepping down.
And he told me what he had decided to do.
And I asked him, are you sure?
And he said, yes.
But that's how I learned about it.
And what about the endorsement?
Did you ask for it?
He was very clear that he was going to support me.
So when he called to tell you, he said, I'm pulling out of the race and I'm going to support you.
Well, my first thought was not about me, to be honest with you.
I don't really think about myself.
You know, like people try and sell you the idea.
Yeah.
I don't really think about myself when the president calls me and says I don't need a president anymore.
I don't really think about the connotations.
Oh, yes.
I suppose that does make me president.
I better... I better turn this bacon down, actually, because it seems like we're on the brink of, like, massive wars all over the world.
I should probably do something about that.
And it seems like, actually, the whole government's been captured by a corporate class, and we've condemned and damned through propaganda, like, half of the population, and created, like, a metropolitan elite class that spends all of their time sneeringly damning blue-collar and working men.
I should probably do something about that, now that I'm president.
I don't really think like that.
Just a denial.
That's not at all what she said.
Yeah, see, Russell seems to think, or at the very least is pretending to think, that Joe Biden not seeking re-election means that Kamala Harris is currently President of the United States.
That's what he was just saying.
And like, look, he could just be lying, but he also has a tendency towards being an idiot sometimes.
And this would explain his conversation last week with Neil Oliver about how Kamala Harris has all the power now and she could change everything tomorrow if she wanted.
Like, it only makes sense if you think Kamala Harris is currently the president.
I think that's what he might actually think.
Well, when a Prime Minister steps down in the UK, they're done, right?
Sure, sure.
It's not, finish the term, you're done.
This is what I'm wondering, whether he's gotten caught up in the terminology of, oh, Biden's stepping down, rather than Biden won't be seeking re-election.
You know, I think he's gotten caught up in Biden stepped down, therefore.
Kamala Harris is the president now.
He's looking for something that's convenient.
He's not saying anything.
What he was just saying was taking issue with the fact that she was remembering it was a Sunday.
He's just grasping for shit.
Like this seems so like pithy and like, I just, sorry.
Like, I don't, I mean, I just, I, if he doesn't talk about that, there's meat in this interview to talk about.
And if he can't even get there, that's a fucking problem.
This is a waste of time.
What are we doing?
Yeah, that's a fair perspective.
So from here, Russell takes issue with the entire concept of recorded history.
You know that Don McLean song, Vincent, this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you?
I'm a bit like that, the subject.
I'm a bit like Van Gogh.
My first thought was about him, to be honest.
I think history is going to show a number of things about Joe Biden's presidency.
I think history is going to show that... History's not like an independent... History's not God, is it?
History?
Hello!
Ho ho ho!
I am history!
History, Churchill would tell you, is written by the victors.
History, Foucault would tell you, is deliberately superficial and amounts to propaganda.
History is a set of ideas that are pushed in order to put you in a particular perspective.
That's why if someone comes up with Interesting and novel ideas about perhaps ancient civilizations or why someone pushes, if someone pushes a spiritual purview, they're condemned as maniacs and lunatics.
There's no objectivity in history.
History is merely the undergirding of the current order.
And if history did have any objectivity, it'd go Joe Biden, career politician, utterly corrupt.
Corrupt in every way conceivable.
You can look at his voting records, you can look at his career.
He was completely in the hock of corporations, completely in the business of war.
Seems to be a man without ethics and I'm beginning to wonder if he even had a fight with Corn Pop.
So, in the entire of recorded history, none of it is actually objective fact.
There is no objectivity, and actually it's just an undergirding of the current order.
And that is why when people like Graham Hancock come up with their racist-ass ancient civilization ideas, or someone pushes a religious, non-factual version of history like the Earth being 6,000 years old, they're apparently condemned as maniacs and lunatics because it goes against the current order, and that's all history is, Lauren.
We've learned something today.
Thank you.
He's wasted too much of all of our time.
We're not going to take more of it.
As for how Joe Biden will be written about in the history books, I'm going to guess it's not going to be great.
Yeah, I'm going to say at best, mixed bag.
But taken in its totality, like there's a series of racist, misogynist, Zionist ideas that have permeated through his entire career.
My guess is, yeah, it won't necessarily be remembered fondly, but we'll see.
We'll see.
Good for him for not doing the running, though.
Great.
Sure, sure, sure.
I'm shocked that they did one thing right.
One good thing.
Anyway, Kamala Harris continues talking about Joe Biden in this next clip.
In so many ways it was transformative, be it on What we have accomplished around finally investing in America's infrastructure, investing in new economies, in new industries.
What we have done to bring our allies back together and have confidence in who we are as America and grow that alliance.
What we have done to stand true to our principles, including one of the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
And I think history is going to show not only has Joe Biden led an administration that has achieved those extraordinary successes, but the character of the man is one that he has been in his life and career, including as a president, quite selfless and puts the American people first.
He was dragged out of that office by Pelosi and the Clintons and the Obamas.
They didn't know what to do.
His own wife in the end had to throw him under a bus.
It was an absolute spectacle of elder abuse and lunacy.
And look at what it has spawned.
Yet another political candidate who can only be accommodated in environments that are plushy and cushy and soft and platter-dudinous, that don't allow for interrogation when it comes to war or even civil tax policies that don't allow for interrogation when it comes to war or even civil tax policies Like a capital gains tax thing sounds pretty bloody confusing to me.
It's crazy.
The American tax system is very confusing.
That's true.
To the point where it feels intentional.
I'm not quite sure we can level that critique at Kamala Harris specifically.
Even if she does introduce new taxes, the tax system isn't quite her fault.
Which did, by the way, lead me down a rabbit hole as to how the US tax system actually came about in its current form.
And I know I never realized it was essentially a direct product of the Civil War.
Like, the IRS was formed to take tax collection away from individual states and impose a temporary income tax.
Temporary income tax!
I knew a lot of the world's ills, and especially America's ills, comes down to the fucking racists, but I didn't realize we could also blame them for the IRS, you know?
I'm like, goddammit!
You just did everything, you bastards!
Yeah, wow.
I've got to say... It's satin.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, we've had some weak tea here from Russell, and so his big critiques, like this is all we get of him with the interview.
This is all we actually get is the bits talking about Joe Biden.
And his big critiques are, oh, this interview seems a bit of a softball and taxes are confusing.
And yeah, that's the final clip of this car crash interview breakdown Russell plays.
And boy, don't I feel like to in a number of ways.
Oh!
The emotional support hammer has returned.
Old Bangy showed up!
Are you fucking kidding me?
I am not.
That's it!
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's the only section that they play is about Joe Biden.
I'm gonna fly there and beep his house down.
Jesus Chri- LISTEN.
STUPID.
Oh my god.
I have so much shit to do today.
I swear to- okay.
So, Phyllis, what were the issues you took with the CNN interview that you heard about war?
Oh, I mean, the fact that basically she's... It's really tricky because there's kind of two schools of thought as far as her messaging for how to deal with Gaza and Israel while Before she's president.
Yes, right.
Basically.
Yeah.
So it's a lot of it's like very sticky and hard to tell kind of what's what the angle is.
And I think that there is a entirely justifiable outcry that she's like, we're going to keep doing the same thing with Israel when like, and not even like a ceasefire.
Okay, let's start at ceasefire.
Like, Ceasefire, even just saying the word ceasefire, y'all had that eight months ago.
No, no, no.
Now, let's talk arms embargo.
People have paid so much more attention to this issue than they ever have before, and they have so much more information than they ever have before.
They're gonna have to do something about it.
Um, and I genuinely think that there is a chance that things might change, but she is in fact not president right now.
No.
Um, which is its own kind of question.
Like if he can't run for office, is he okay to be president?
Who's actually been president the whole time?
What are we talking about?
Um, but that's kind of the issue that I've seen that has made its rounds.
And I think it's totally reasonable.
Like if you accept what she said on its face, which, You're kind of supposed to, in an interview.
Yeah, that's the idea.
That's a massive fucking problem, because it's also, like, not reality-based.
Like, this is a bad idea in the most cynical, like, socio-political, foreign policy track.
Blindly supporting Israel and dumping more money into Israel is a bad idea.
Very bad idea.
And we should stop.
Yup.
There's no benefit that the American public can see.
You're not even giving us a reason as to why.
- I've got plenty of fucking problems with Kamala Harris, but like, I mean, I just wanted to have hope, I guess.
So that's the only thing I've, But the fact that he's not covering the most covered clip is why I got the hammer.
Because the same shit fucking happened last week with the DNC coverage.
You're not even going to talk about the most important shit.
You're going to... Taking issue...
Just like how our show is not because, like, Russell's dog's name is Bear, like, he thinks his dog's a bear because he calls him Bear.
Yeah.
Because we're not fucking braindead morons.
Like, there's nothing to engage with here.
No, no.
It's incredibly frustrating.
Yeah.
Other than, like, boring riffing.
Well, I'm just like, dude, if this is the biggest critiques of this, of Kamala Harris that you can muster up, you are in trouble.
Like, you are in real trouble.
I hope he is!
I think he is!
Because, like, the critiques that you and I would have are obviously from a leftist perspective.
He can't go down that road because that's not where his audience are, and I don't think he wants to talk about Gaza for that same reason.
He doesn't want to touch that particular sticky wicket, you know, because boy's gonna get himself stuck.
But I don't, the thing is what, and my concern, and I think the conceit of the show is that he's doing it.
He's still making money.
He's not hemorrhaging followers.
He's working it out.
He's inventing whatever version, like whatever stochastic terrorist version of Russell will make the most money is what he's making of this.
So the thing is, is somebody's listening.
And so he's modeling behavior that is very childish.
And it's not like that doesn't have an impact on his followers, on his listeners.
Even passively, he is modeling not just how you listen to politicians on TV, but how you listen to people in the world.
That's a massive part of what social media content is, is even if you're like, The most conscientious person, the most self-aware, you know, like, you can think of yourself as the smartest, like, king shit of fuck mountain, right?
You're just the smartest person in the world.
And that's, if you were exposed to this kind of behavior enough, over and over again, it's going to rub off on you.
Yeah.
You know, lie with dogs, get fleas.
He is making it okay to, and modeling and like to potentially making it an aspirational kind of like quality that he wants in his followers, that his followers will value, that like you can make these like, but his like flowery kind of language, similar to like, Jordan Peterson.
It's what a smart person sounds like to a dumb person.
If you're telling me that you don't hear people that sound like Jordan Peterson in the world, we're living in a post-Jordan Peterson world.
And people fucking sound like that in our real lives.
Yeah, it's exhausting.
That's like why the show exists to expose and to track it.
I don't think he believes in anything.
He's also vibing and riffing.
He is creating a character to make himself money.
Yep.
Successfully.
He doesn't think his dog is actually a bear.
No, he does not.
He just named it a bear, and also naming the dog a bear, which genuinely, like, that's also how he's engaging with reality, and how, like, it's this kind of, like, reality by consensus, where if enough people vote, oh, your dog's actually a bear, then he becomes a bear.
That's not how reality works, but that's how reality works in this land.
A rumble.
Yeah, pretty much.
And you see a microcosm of that with the sunglasses coming on and off and on and off and on and off.
Take them off and throw them behind you, do a bit.
Hot damn.
Isn't even a good bit.
No, it is not.
This is just such a fucking waste!
Oh my god.
Time!
Yep, completely.
And next Russell does a little bit of rhyming.
Well, there you go.
Let me know what you're going to be doing with your electoral rights this coming November.
Let me know how you plan to sustain the onslaught of banality that will be coming your way.
Encourage to You lay down supine amidst the anodyne and drink it like a fine wine when in fact you are too refined to even imagine that this is anything other than another empty hollow candidate incapable of spontaneity and openness.
I pray, I pray for the day where The true humanity of Kamala Harris and all of the people that the centrists trot out before us can be experienced and can be lived.
At the moment, really, I would have to say that this campaign is doing dark work indeed.
Furthering corporatism, furthering globalism, furthering division, distracting us from war and massacre, disillusion and despair, and potentially there could be a chance to disrupt it.
Firstly, I would suppose by pursuing spiritual principles individually and by recognizing that new tectonic political plates are beginning to shift.
At least that's my prayer.
At least that's my hope of what could be born out of the Bobby Kennedy, Trump, Tulsi Gabbard shifting and changing anti-globalist movement across the world.
Mm-hmm!
Um... So, obviously we have the satanic dog whistle that, oh, this campaign is doing dark work by promoting globalism and sowing division, ra-ha-ha.
One thing I do find interesting about this is that even after RFK Jr.
is endorsing Trump, Russell still hasn't officially hopped on board the Trump train.
When pressed as to who he is endorsing, he will still repeatedly say that he supports Bobby Kennedy, which that guy's dead.
But yeah, he's still supporting RFK Jr., right?
And obviously, RFK Jr.
is supporting Trump.
So actually, Russell supporting RFK Jr.
is entirely, at this point, a way for him to support Trump without actually saying he supports Trump.
It's slightly fascinating to me that even with his audience predominantly made up of Trumpers, he's unwilling to fully embrace it yet.
No, no, no.
Makes perfect sense.
Makes perfect sense to me.
It's still hedging, right?
I wonder if there's going to be a shift between now and November at some point, whether he's going to have to hop on board fully.
Because at that point, he will surely alienate and abandon some of the kind of new agey types that he's got.
We'll have to see, right?
I think that's kind of what we talked about in Off Brand on Sunday.
The understanding, like, I don't know how he's going to thread the needle of keeping the wellness-y woo-ies and the, like, traditional Christians that he's courting.
And he wants to waffle as much as the fucking little waffles that we found out are in that bag of treats behind him right there.
So that's, he's, waffle, I think, is the fucking, is the game, right?
Absolutely.
So, as far as, like, Alex Jones is a great example, but he was not the only one.
If you're, like, you can be quote-unquote above the left-right paradigm if you support Ron Paul.
And there's always been kind of, like, outside candidates are kind of this, like, this talisman, you know, this kind of, like, distraction that people like Russell can kind of hedge, right, and, like, skirt Reality and like skirt the issues by saying, well, I support this other candidate, which like, listen, support like especially not in presidential election years.
But if you want more parties to choose from and more candidates, we need to support these like other parties all the time.
Yeah, that's absolutely valid.
And in fact, very important.
But this is Not that.
He's just, just scooting around the issue.
And Bob, Bobby Kane, I almost said it.
I hate it!
R.F.K.
Jr.
is a really great way for him to avoid that, right?
Like that's, he doesn't have to tell anybody.
He might as well say fucking Mickey Mouse.
It doesn't matter.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
I'm hoping we see like a begrudging kind of embrace of Trump before November.
He's not going to begrudge anything.
He'll make it look good.
Also, hypocrisy doesn't matter to these people.
True.
It doesn't matter.
True.
Watching how they wiggle out of it is the interesting part, to me.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be interesting.
It's going to be interesting either way, and I'm looking forward to it.
All right, next.
Onslaught of banality was amazing.
That's the show.
That's entirely what you, yep, that's the whole game.
That's the whole game.
So Russell has a little preview to show us of his new stand-up show I mentioned.
The one that's been streamed to locals.
So let's take a little look.
Now if you are already an Awakened Wonder you'll be aware that I do live events and that you can attend live events with me anywhere in the world simply by becoming a member as these people have.
This is just a little bit of me in a very small intimate gig last night.
Have a look.
Is this mental illness or not?
You tell me, you're qualified.
Are you trying to assess your level of mental illness always?
Do you self-diagnose?
Yeah, I've got ADHD.
Have you done a quiz online to tell me that you're autistic?
Of course you fucking have.
Let me save you the 50 quid that it asks you for at the end.
That's what it does, isn't it?
Like, I ask you, are you autistic?
And I sort of try... You definitely are, mate.
I can tell already.
Never... I can give you instant diagnosis.
Yes, yes.
Autism.
Abundance.
The whole room's flooded with it.
There's not one of you that's not redolent stinking with Asperger's.
There you go.
That's the sort of thing that comes out of my mouth if I don't think too carefully about what I say.
Great.
Wow.
Hilarious.
If you didn't like it, why'd you play it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You dumb baby.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, what a piece of shit.
It's your show.
What a piece of shit.
Does not like neurodivergent people, and what a piece of shit.
Yeah, so that's another one.
So he did a second, another live stream at his pub in Piss Hill.
That's where that was.
And yeah, you can get free tickets if you're an awakened wonder on his local's channel.
Yeah, that is something.
That's fucking something.
Because, I think we've established, I listen to a lot of podcasts.
I take in a lot of content.
And usually patrons get early access to tickets or some other early access.
That they pay, they pay for the tickets.
That's telling me your demand is not that high if you're giving tickets.
Now, if you want, if it's like a thing that you're doing for your patrons, usually that's also livestream because you don't have to like, I mean, I guess he owns the building.
So, but still weird.
That's weird.
It is weird.
That's county fair shit.
It's very strange.
And yeah, I have the same kind of feeling that maybe not that many people are willing to pay to see you do this.
And I can see why.
But yeah, it is very interesting and I wonder, maybe it's like warm-up shows before he does a tour.
Maybe he's kind of okay with that, you know, kind of situation.
But we'll see.
He also did a giveaway this week for the show that he's going to be doing with Tucker Carlson.
um this week because he's Tucker Carlson's doing a tour um and Russell Russell is the first tonight he's the opening night act um to be interviewed on stage with Tucker Carlson um this very week in fact um and yeah he gave away a bunch of tickets uh tickets for that um to his local... Giveaways fire!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah he he did insist on uh on asking a question that that that his awakening wonders had to answer um which was um What was the reason that Fox gave for firing Tucker Carlson?
And it turned out the answer was nothing.
They didn't give one.
So it was a trick question.
I'm like, that's rude.
I'd be annoyed.
But anyway.
Anyway.
Yeah, giveaways are promotional.
That's fine.
I'm saying, like, it's very different to offer.
So he's not offering free admission, right?
It's just a giveaway for the Tucker thing.
For the Tucker thing, yeah, yeah.
That was just a giveaway.
But yeah, any of his shows, yeah, free for any Awakening one.
Yeah, David Cross was working on new material and we had to put our phones in a bag, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Yes, right!
One free!
Yeah.
It was cheaper, which is very cool that he did that.
Yeah.
Because he was working on new material before like a big kind of, you know, a big national tour.
And he was very upfront about a lot of the mechanics of how that works.
It's very, very cool.
And it was cool that he didn't charge us full price or anywhere.
Like tickets were cheap, but they weren't fucking free because there's demand.
Yes, no, exactly.
We've had big-name comedians come here to, like, there's a theatre in the town.
I bet, yeah, it happens all the time.
In mid-Wales, yeah, and they'll come there.
I remember Lee Evans, back when he was still touring, came here and he had a massive stack of paper and was just kind of rattling through ideas, basically, as he went, you know, and yeah, slightly cheaper, but yeah, still paid, wasn't free, you know, because It just speaks to demand, right?
Yeah.
But also Rumble.
They're not killing it on numbers.
They are killing it on numbers because they've gotten organized and they're getting their shit together and they're doing a fuck ton of marketing, but money still has to be pumped into these things to make it work.
Isn't Jack Posobiec and Ben Shapiro... It's not just popularity that's keeping these people afloat.
No, no.
And it's going to be interesting to watch it play out in the long term, let's put it that way, as to how sustainable these kinds of systems are.
Well, as long as there's no controls on how much money that corporations can fucking rake in, and how much fake money that VC can fucking play around with, then it's only going to get worse.
Because this is also money laundering.
That's also part of it.
It's a fucking racket.
It's also a racket.
Yep.
Not wrong.
Not wrong.
All right, anyway, from here we're finally going to get to Russell interviewing Tony Robbins and a writer slash director called Mohit Ramchandani.
And let's let Russell introduce them as well as explain the new movie that they are here to promote.
Tony, Mo, thank you so much for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
Great to be with you, brother.
Yes, thank you so much.
Congratulations on your film.
I'm very excited to be participating in the launch of City of Dreams, which strikes me as a kind of film that will hugely benefit all of the people that see it.
It's the kind of film that people have sort of stopped making these days.
Heartening, strong moral center.
Seems that it's got some very good executive producers.
Not least of all you, Tony.
One of the things we know from the success of Sound of Freedom is that it seems to be controversial to speak out against child trafficking these days.
So you've taken a risk in speaking out against child trafficking for all those people out there that Like child trafficking are going to be disappointed because this is an anti-child, just to clarify, anti-child show but it's not good to traffic children either for Labour and certainly not for more insidious purposes.
Tony, tell me what your personal journey is with the film, why you felt that you had to be involved?
Well, you know, I think I've been involved, my wife and I, for about eight years with saving children in this area.
We had somebody at one of our events one day, we're always promoting people, you know, we fed a billion people over 10 years.
So he's like, what's your moonshot?
What do you want to do?
And this woman talked about, she wanted to save all these children.
And she was crying, telling about a friend of hers that, you know, that his child was stolen.
So I said, well, what's an organization that does it?
What's the case to save a child?
And she said, well, it's about $3,500.
There's this organization that does it.
I said I'll put up the first quarter million.
Let's see what we can raise right here right now.
We raised two million dollars and then I went to the organization and I went on a trip with them.
I went down to Haiti and we saved 37 children.
I was undercover with movie scars on my face and so forth and I gotta tell you Russell is one of the Ugliest things I've ever seen in my entire life.
The inhumanity.
These children, 12 years old, 10 years old, chained to a bed doing tricks 70 times a day.
It's beyond your imagination.
The worst thing you could ever imagine.
There's also those beautiful things seeing these kids when we rescued them and when they were freed.
And so we've, my wife and I have participated in funding over 50,000 children's rescues.
Okay, um, hi Tony Robbins.
Uh, there's a lot to unpack here and we'll get to the actual movie in just a minute because there are a few things to discuss about that.
But first, let's just remind ourselves of Tony Robbins.
Obviously, motivational speaker and self-help guru who has made cameos in Hollywood movies in The Simpsons.
Very famous, also very wealthy.
And last time he was on Russell's Show he was touting his new book about trading stocks and shares and we didn't cover it because honestly it was really dull.
But Tony Robbins is a real piece of shit and trigger warning here for sexual assault and all the issues surrounding that stuff because it gets immediately pretty ugly.
So big trigger warning and for those who choose to continue let us brace ourselves and for the rest you'll see in a few minutes.
All right so BuzzFeed News actually did a really good series on this and I'll read directly from one of the articles.
Secret recordings and transcripts from inside his events reveal Robbins has unleashed expletive-laden tirades on survivors of rape and domestic violence after inviting them to share their stories in front of a vast audience.
She's fucking using all this stuff to try and control men, he said, after one woman said she had been raped.
When in 2018, another woman said her husband was physically violent and emotionally abusive, Robbins accused her of lying and asked, Does he put up with you even when you've been a crazy bitch?
Interviews and records reveal how Robbins has created a highly sexualized environment in which both men and women have been told to touch themselves intimately and simulate orgasms.
but he has repeatedly singled women out of the crowd for more personal attention.
One secret recording from 2018 captured him laughing as he told a woman in the audience that he wanted her to come up on stage and make love to me.
And two former bodyguards told BuzzFeed News that they were sent out to troll audiences for attractive women on Robin's behalf.
Two women told BuzzFeed News they had witnessed it or experienced it themselves.
Robin's intensive multi-day events are often held in rooms kept deliberately cold and run from early in the morning to well past midnight, with very few breaks for food and water.
Followers are encouraged to run across hot coals.
Internal company emails reveal concerns about fans suffering mental breakdowns after days of emotional exhaustion, as well as sleep deprivation and dehydration.
In this intense atmosphere, some audience members become disoriented as the days went by, said Todd Spendley, a former logistics contractor for the organization.
We used to joke about it, he said.
People started popping like popcorn.
And in December 2018, Robbins was in Palm Beach, Florida for another Date With Destiny event.
A woman stepped up to the microphone and speaking softly, she told Robbins that her husband had emotionally abused her.
That set Robbins off in a 50 minute- - He's like, "Hold my beer!" - Literally.
Literally.
In a 50-minute secret recording obtained by BuzzFeed News, he launched into a tirade punctuated with expletive-laden questions.
What the fuck is emotional abuse, he asked the woman.
Are we that fucking weak that someone can't tell you with passion what they fucking feel without them abusing you?
She's focused on her needs, he went on.
We've not heard one thing in the last 12 minutes about his needs, and we're already characterising it as emotional violence.
There's no fucking thing.
There has been physical violence, the woman clarified soon after.
What led to that, Robyn's shot back?
What role did you play?
I'm not suggesting there's any excuse for hitting a woman, so hear me, but I also want you to know that people don't just act a certain fucking way.
When the woman tentatively began to describe the violence, details she asked BuzzFeed News not to publish, Robbins interrupted her and said her husband sounds like someone that actually wants to engage with you because he loves you.
Uh, what I find when I usually dig in, he later said, is that when, is that, uh, they call abuse, uh, what they call abuse is a relabeling of they didn't like what the person said or did.
Uh, he later turned back to the crowd.
She's lying to herself, he said.
She's done it so often she doesn't even know the difference between a truth and a lie anymore.
And these are just the things that Tony Robbins has done to his audience.
They get awful, gaslighting, terrible, just victim blaming, horrendous, horrendous.
And these are just the things that Tony Robbins has done to his audience.
On top of that, there are at least 10 women, including many former staffers who have accused Tony Robbins of sexual harassment.
There are multiple reports of him forcing them to watch him shower or see him naked more generally.
One of the more serious accusations against him was the allegation that when Tony Robbins, prior to getting famous, worked at a summer camp, he forced himself upon and engaged in a prolonged sexual assault upon a minor.
Yikes.
Now, all of the above I've just described is pretty well documented.
But of course, Tony Robbins denies everything and claims that it's the Me Too movement coming to get him.
Sure thing.
So, next to what the fuck Tony Robbins was actually talking about in that clip just there...
going to Haiti and promoting this charity that deals with trafficking and all that, right?
It all sounds very benevolent and white saviory.
Um, but what I- Not to me!
*laughs* Um, what I found interesting, uh, was that, uh, Tony doesn't mention the name of the organization at any point during this interview.
Like, he references it multiple times, but never actually names it, which seems weird.
Um, that is because I'm 99% sure the organization that he's referring to is OUR, Operation Underground Railroad, which was Tim Ballard's organization.
And, uh, to jog everyone's memory, Tim Ballard is the guy who was the main focus of Sound of Freedom, that terrible movie with Jim Caviezel.
Um, it turned out that Tim Ballard, while working at Operation Underground Railroad, was coercing the women into sexual acts while on sting operations to rescue people from sex trafficking.
Fucking irony.
According to multiple lawsuits filed against him and several pending criminal investigations.
Specifically, a married couple filed a lawsuit against O.U.R.
and Ballard, accusing Ballard of sexual assault and grooming.
In a statement in the lawsuit, the husband alleged that Ballard wanted his wife to help O.U.R., despite her having no training in any sort of undercover work.
The lawsuit went on to state that Ballard began abusing the couples ruse in which Ballard had women pose Undercover as his wife or girlfriend to fall traffickers on purported rescue missions, and then used it as a tool for sexual grooming.
Oh boy.
Now, OUR itself is a whole different terrible thing that very arguably makes sex trafficking worse and more likely by sending untrained random guys into brothels in foreign countries and repeatedly asking for younger and younger girls.
You can see how this might lead to children being trafficked where they previously wouldn't have been.
Anyway, it's a whole thing.
There's a really good Vice article on it out there for anyone interested.
There's a bunch of stuff.
Beware the Mormon Realtor is all I have to say.
Right.
As for what Tony Robbins was doing, O.U.R.
did in fact go to Haiti and this was while Tony Robbins was openly good buddies with Tim Ballard and he was also a producer on The Sound of Freedom as well.
So again, I'm quite sure this is what he was referring to.
I'm pretty sure he went with O.U.R.
on this trip to Haiti.
And there's no evidence I could find of saving 37 or whatever children from trafficking in that trip, and in fact, here's what Vice said about the specific rescue mission that took place.
Quote.
The rescue mission, somewhere on the border of Haiti and the Dominican Republic, was not going well.
The anti-trafficking charity Operation Underground Railroad had arrived in a remote village seeking a missing child, acting on what founder Tim Ballard had promised was a solid tip from a source.
A group from OUR's so-called Jump Team had entered the village, pretending to be part of a medical team.
Real medical workers had been hired as cover, and they were providing actual care to people in the village while the Operators, as they're called, quietly surveyed the scene.
But the missing child was nowhere to be found.
And then, to the dismay of several people on the ground, Ballard produced his source.
A psychic medium from Utah.
Oh yeah!
Yeah!
Fuck it!
Let's party!
Yeah!
Dowsing rod!
Let's do it!
Let's hunt down the kids with a stick!
Yeah, the child in question was Ghadi Mahdi, a Haitian boy born in the United States, so an American boy, who was nearly three years old when he disappeared from his father Guizno Mahdi's church in Port-au-Prince in December 2009.
And this was the catalyzing event that led to Ballard founding OUR several years later.
By 2014, Ballard and his team of operators, a group he asserts is highly trained and skilled, and mainly comprises former members of law enforcement and the military, descended on Haiti to find Gadi in the first of several operations.
Two people who went on one of those missions independently related the same series of events to Vice World News.
They requested anonymity to freely discuss the sensitive situation.
During the mission where medical care was being used as cover, they said Ballard, who worked for Homeland Security Investigations and claims to have been a CIA agent before that, Had been relaying tips from his source.
The person had claimed that many children were being held near this village and that Gardi was among them.
Ballard, both sources said, even called Gwesno to tell him that his son was coming home and summoned him to the village.
Soon after Ballard arrived, the villagers became suspicious and increasingly upset as he began circulating through the village with a camera crew.
He's not making decisions tactically, one of the people who was present told Vice World News.
He's making decisions like a reality TV producer, and so he starts running around the village like an idiot.
The cameras are following him.
He's drawing so much attention to himself.
The villagers began to gather, some of them armed with old shotguns, and soon O.U.R.' 's crew learned that a rumor was circulating, that there was a virus in the village and the workers were there to figure out who had it.
They were yelling and getting riled up, a person who was present said.
Tim got in the truck and buried his head in his lap.
Senior elders soon asked the medical team to leave.
Several cars followed them out of the village to make sure they had gone.
We never saw Gardy or any other kid, a person who had gone on the Haiti mission told Vice World News.
We never got close to helping anyone.
While it never found Gardy, OUR has said that hunting for him has led to innumerable other rescues.
The organization and Ballant have said that they're still searching for the boy to this day, and that in the process children around the world have been liberated from traffickers.
Gardy's story has led to the freedom of thousands, OUR wrote in July 2020, announcing the sale of new Find Gardy hats.
Oh, right.
Oh, and OUR, by the way, is also heavily tied into QAnon conspiracy theories about elite pedophile rings, Pizzagate, and consuming the blood of children.
And it is heavily tied to Glenn Beck, of all people, as well.
So that's fun.
So yeah.
It doesn't sound like Tony Robbins got up to that much in Haiti by the sound of it.
And yeah, if you actually look at their website, it's amazing considering how many thousands of children they claim to save, how little evidence there is of any of it ever happening.
It's incredible.
You would think a picture, a name, on anything No, you would, wouldn't you?
You really would.
It's remarkable.
All right.
Do you know what's real?
The amount of fucking money they've made.
That's real.
That's a fuck.
Oh, and the harm.
The, like, massive amounts of harm.
I am kind of impressed that Tony Robbins at least has the wherewithal to distance himself from Tim Ballard.
I'm honestly a little surprised.
Even, like, Russell mentioned Sound of Freedom, which is funny.
Russell's like, they don't make movies like this anymore, except for this one I'm about to name.
This one last year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where also churches were given tickets to give away for free to get butts in seats.
I mean, it was...
Interesting, you should bring that up.
Um, yeah, with- Ha!
Yeah.
Um, but with this, like, he will talk about Sound of Freedom, but no, he won't mention Tim Ballard or OUR at all.
Um, so yeah, he's- He's savvy enough, he's been doing this for long enough to know.
Dude, he's an OG.
Tony Robbins has been doing this since before I was alive.
I promise you why Ted is a thing, why Ted Talks.
He is the Ted Talk-er.
Again, when we talked about David Martin, I looked at his Ted Talk a couple weeks ago and off-brand.
This whole ex-Ted idea is very tempting.
Yes, the ex-Ted podcast following these former Ted Talk speakers and what they're doing now.
How many of them are in prison for fraud?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, truly.
And yeah, I mean, it's, man, oh, fuck.
Yeah, Tony Robbins is like, what I do want to make abundantly clear, everything that you just described, right?
Especially around Tony Robbins or whatever.
Well, not or whatever, specifically.
I don't know how he has weaseled out of the Me Too situation.
I think it's because he has built this empire and protected himself in a way that is like Teflon.
Yeah, and he hired, um... It was like, Tim Ballard just fuckin', like, he rose and fell.
Yes!
Whereas Tony Robbins is eternal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony Robbins is much more savvy about it.
He also hired the same lawyers that Bill Cosby had, you know, like they're a very intense legal team.
And also like what was really upsetting about the BuzzFeed News article was just how many women were like clearly abused by him and have been abused by him But took it in a direction of, oh, but he helped me, so it's fine.
You know?
And there was a lot of that, including women who worked for him and everything.
It's a whole thing.
So, yeah.
You grew up in America at the same time I did and had a mother.
It's not that surprising at all.
Honestly, not surprising in the slightest.
Not either what we saw them go through or the messaging that we got.
It's... I'm sorry.
Sorry about... I hate to break it to you.
That is par for the fucking course.
And it's so normal to hear about that.
But I need to be clear.
The multi-million dollar self-help and wellness industry...
It's people like this.
He is indicative.
And yeah, you can get something out of it, right?
An inspirational quote or whatever, I think there's a lot of accidental, peripheral benefit people can glean.
So I'm not trying to come for you if you get something out of it, right?
Jordan Peterson's clean your room thing, that bit's fine.
It's the rest of it that's the problem.
Well, even his rationale is not... I mean, there's no, like, there's no substance really, but like, most self-help ever!
Well, you're the problem.
You're the problem, and no matter what, the circumstances are your fault.
What else does prosperity gospel teach us?
Well, you must have done something wrong.
It's your fault.
You deserve punishment.
So if you are taking this hyper-religious A subset of people that already are conditioned by religion to believe that they are evil and they deserve punishment.
Tony Robbins can just scooch right in there and make it work for him and even take the God out of it and just save a vague, you know, like a vague God stuff or explicit.
I don't know what he's doing this month because it changes all the time depending on what's popular, but like that's, Please, please understand people like him are the people making the money and they do not give a shit about you.
You should not be made to feel bad.
That's also like you get credit.
Well, I don't know.
That's a very tricky kind of like.
It's a reality that women absolutely, and uniquely women, yes men are also involved, but we all know who the target audience is and who can be like, and it's like Phyllis Schlafly handed these gals right off to Tony Robbins and all the other fucking self-help whatever, like Keith Raniere, all that shit.
It is in spite of them, not because of them, if you get something out of it.
The amount of money they can make and the amount of notoriety and fame they can accumulate from nothing but Riz.
Like, they're the reason that things are the way they are right now with the vibes-based economy we live in.
They were the ones that made them.
They're snake oil salesmen, but they look fucking slick, and they're in expensive suits, and they're wearing, like, fancy fucking watches, and they're saying that they're either super geniuses about how people work or they're conduits for God himself.
It's just really... It's...
It'd be impressive if it wasn't so horrible.
How effective that Tony Robbins has been doing this for my entire life and just pulling it off.
Yep.
And his planes still won't crash.
They just won't go.
We've gotten other ones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
- Well, give it time. - I mean, just like, there is like, if, I can't say if, like, if you're listening to any kind of self-help anything and it says that you're the problem, I can't say that across the board.
Plenty of people have problems every goddamn day.
I drive a car.
I know how it works.
And sometimes it's me.
That's just life.
And so, that understanding is like...
Man, I don't know.
Um, I wish what you described, like the situation that you read from, you know, like from the investigation wasn't like so normal and like borderline mundane.
Cause that's just very often the houses that we lived in and all the people that we were around, like that's very normal.
Yeah.
And I mean, Synanon, what they do at these fucking teen wilderness camps, it's that kind of letting everyone berate you.
It's a very specific mechanism within a very specific kind of use case that just abuse has become the product.
And he's just a fucking narcissistic sociopath.
Yeah, absolutely.
One of the main critiques leveled at Tony Robbins by experts is he's re-traumatizing and re-abusing these people.
That's all he's doing.
Obviously.
So is fucking Dr. Phil.
Horrifying.
All right, so let's get to Tony Robbins talking about a little bit about his experience with Sound of Freedom before getting into the movie City of Dreams.
So, you know, when we did, you know, the experience of Sound of Freedom, as you know, we beat Disney during July 4th week.
It was unbelievable.
People really moved the story, helped to get the word out, and helped us raise more money to save more kids.
But it also made people feel like it was over there.
And what's different about City of Dreams is this is not so much about sexual slavery as it is just labor slavery.
Children that are enslaved run across the border.
You hear about 10 million children coming across the border, and it's just overwhelming.
The U.S. government said they lost 300,000 children recently where they sent them, and now they can't find the kids anymore.
And they've been sent to the same location to the same Uncle John, you know, 1,000 kids, right?
So it's obviously a trafficker, but it's too much.
But when you follow one child's life, a real story, and you experience what that child does, you can't help but feel it.
So this is like a thriller.
It keeps you on the edge of your seat.
But it's a hero's journey because this young man not only saves himself against all odds, but he saves everybody else too.
And then there's a real call to action at the end, like we had with Sound of Freedom.
So I could not participate.
And Moe has built what You know, Sly Stallone, you know, Peter Guber, people that are incredible filmmakers are coming out say this is a masterpiece.
People saying it's Oscar worthy.
It got a hundred percent in the first test, which as unheard of what the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, even now it's still 86 with all the mass input to it.
So it's a film people will love, but it's also a film that will save lives.
Aha, yeah, so I did check the Ron Tomatos score because I was curious, and when I last checked it was at 67% with 14 reviews.
I'm like, okay!
Interesting, interesting.
And there's user submitted reviews.
Just 14.
All right, all right.
We'll take that to the bank.
So, it's a film that'll save lives.
It's an interesting perspective.
And I'm gonna read a couple of reviews here for you and see what you make of the claim that the film will do good and save lives, right?
So this is from RogerEbert.com.
City of Dreams is a movie with a mission, to raise awareness about child trafficking.
However, as a work of fiction inspired by true events, it leaves much to be desired.
It is a sensationalized portrait of the problem, the kind of movie that doesn't pull at the heartstrings so much as it takes a jackhammer to them.
A not insignificant portion of the runtime is dedicated to watching a child get beaten over and over again as overlong close-ups capture every tear he sheds.
And give them money.
reason.
At the end of this torturous road, we are no wiser about the issue, given no instructions on how to help a boy in this situation, merely directed to a website which promotes the film and how you, the audience, should tell others to watch it.
There are no- And give them money.
And give them money.
There are no resources for survivors, no links to advocacy groups or foundations doing the on-the-ground work of helping trafficking survivors.
If the purpose of this movie is to raise awareness but not do anything, mission accomplished.
In the film, Jesus, played by Harry Lopez, is a young boy with dreams of playing professional soccer.
He lives in a part of Mexico far from the shining lights of big stadiums, but a pamphlet for a soccer camp in Los Angeles gives him hope to chase after his dreams.
His father sends him north with a flamboyant coyote with a bad-jelled do, flashy shirt, and sports car.
The stranger promises a new life, but it's not the kind Jesus dreamed of when he wakes up in Los Angeles.
He learns that he has been bought and sold to a windowless sweatshop with no hope of escape or a chance at pursuing his dream.
Mohit Ramchandani's feature debut, that's this chap here, paints a bleak picture with few moments of reprieve, practically guilting the audience into submission by the time the movie ends with the PSA calling out the rich and famous, including activists like Angelina Jolie and Bono, As well as politicians from both sides of the aisle, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for their inaction on the issue.
However, this message gets muddled in the movie when Ramchandani's script focuses so intensely on the dangers facing Jesus.
City of Dreams only briefly shows us glimpses of our character's past and goals before plunging the audience into the child's kidnapping, forced labor, and mental and physical abuse at the hands of a cruel taskmaster known as That's exactly what I thought!
and his nephew Cesar.
The abuse of Jesus felt so gratuitous it brought to mind the use of violence in Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ as well as the question of whether or not seeing this fictional violence actually helps the audience better understand its message or is it merely used to shock them?
After all, what is the point of a Final Destination-like scare when Jesus is almost stabbed in the eye by El Jefe with a nail in a floorboard, if not to jolt the audience with suspense?
City of Dreams feels like the tabloid treatment of the topic, emphasizing certain details over straightforward reporting.
The story is built up to be a thriller, complete with a stylish long take chase sequence through Los Angeles fashion district, tense showdowns between our hero and his captors, and cops streaming in to save the day, and Kartoff el jefe as he screams, This is America!
The film also feels strangely hostile towards Latinos, showing us as complicit in our children's abuse and using a recurring vision of men in indigenous regalia haunting Jesus, which seems to suggest that old cultural... What?
Old cultural non-Christian practices caused his mother's death.
That's the insinuation.
In addition to forced labor trafficking, the movie hints at the threat of sex trafficking when a stylish, wraith-like figure enters the sweatshop to take girls like Jesus' only friend and first love, Elena, for nefarious purposes.
It's noteworthy that Jesus is effectively silent for most of the movie.
He's mute, bluntly symbolizing his lack of voice and agency.
Until the point where he is rescued from these conditions and in the arms of one of the officers who saved him speaks his first words.
But the movie stops at a crucial point in a survivor's journey when they emerge from the horrific ordeal.
It leaves us with a close-up of Jesus's crying face as the sound of a roaring crowd chanting his name grows louder.
It provides no answers as to what will happen to him next, if he'll be deported or punished for trying to seek out a better life like millions of children before him.
Um, it is not necessary to show child abuse for the sake of entertainment in order to condemn it.
Yet, City of Dreams leaves so much left unsaid when it comes to this issue, like the apprehension of going to the police for help because that might get someone deported or arrested, that creates such an incomplete picture it feels irresponsible.
Much like Sound of Freedom before it, City of Dreams also hinges on a white saviour.
Jason Patrick, who plays an overzealous officer who runs headfirst into a conspiracy stopping justice from saving the kids, right?
And focuses more attention on the movie's success than the issue itself.
Its disingenuous claim, save the children, when one of the executive producers of the film has received allegations of abuse and sexual misconduct at a time when states across the country are attempting to dismantle child labor laws and calls to further militarize the border doesn't help people in Jesus's predicament.
The movie is cruel, manipulative, visually and narratively mediocre, ethically questionable at best, and offers no resources for a path forward.
It is another advocacy film without answers, pretending that the mere act of bringing awareness to a problem solves it.
I liked that review.
I was like, you know what?
You hit every single point.
Good job!
And yeah, there's another piece from Slant Magazine that I quite liked as well.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the role of the American ruling class in all of this goes under-examined.
Despite closing with a tacky montage of real news clips covering recent youth labor scandals at major corporations like McDonald's, as well as title cards imploring audience members to refrain from spending money with these enabling companies, City of Dreams still seems to ignorantly view the child slavery phenomenon as something that exists in a sinful vacuum.
The film makes last-minute pleas for the end of child slavery, as in one from Lopez, in an interview shoehorned into the end credits, but that's all they are.
Had the film been interested in connecting the dots between the forms of exploitation that make child slavery possible, it might have, say, probed the role that politicians and CEOs play in perpetuating the kind of conditions for the exploitation of immigrants to thrive.
Vivek Ramaswamy, who is an executive producer of the film, is a vocal proponent of anti-ESG policies, arguing that corporations should be allowed to do whatever they want to maximise profits.
What's anti-ESG?
Environmental, social, and governance.
Yes.
Sustainability, basically.
Yeah, so it's about sustainable development and that side of things.
Yeah, okay.
It's just the whole blanket.
All of it.
Good for people and planet?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Basically, basically.
Corporations should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
Unfettered capitalism, right?
That's, you know, which obviously plays into exploiting migrants and slavery and all of that other stuff.
Great, good stuff.
In the absence of such a line of inquiry, City of Dreams isn't much better than the villainous sweatshop owners that it demonizes, ultimately exploiting an urgent crisis to provide audiences with the sort of genre kicks that it hopes will turn a profit.
Good fun, good fun.
Oh, and one of the main antagonists is a flamboyantly evil bisexual as well, which that feels necessary.
Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Oh, yeah, and- We're not gay, so that's- It's not the same!
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And yeah, they're up to the same sound of freedom shenanigans, giving away a million dollars worth of free cinema tickets, as well as allowing a pay-it-forward system to pay for other people's tickets, or perhaps, say, buy out an entire movie theater to make it appear as though the movie is successful at the box office!
They are also gunning for an Oscar nomination, hilariously enough.
They're doing a full Oscar campaign, actually.
Oh, I bet they are.
I bet they are.
Oh dear.
This is a lot of money just sloshing around.
Don't ever forget that, by the way.
Hell of a lot of money.
Just lots and lots of money for consulting and PR.
Yep, yep.
I'm not thrilled.
This is horrendous.
Oh, as for what Tony Robbins said, when when the clip played, about 300,000 children going missing and all being sold into slavery and all that stuff.
Right.
He has no evidence of that.
No.
So there's a piece from Newsweek on the issue.
A recent audit by the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General uncovered that U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE, failed to monitor over 30,000 unaccompanied migrant children after their release from government custody.
ICE has no assurance that unaccompanied migrant children are safe from trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor, Inspector General Joseph Khafari's report warned.
The audit showed that between 2019 and 2023, ICE transferred over 448,000 unaccompanied children to the Department of Health and Human Services.
The agency struggled to monitor the whereabouts of many of these children after their release from HHS custody.
More than 32,000 children failed to appear for scheduled immigration court hearings in the period, and ICE couldn't account for their location.
The report also states that the number of missing children could be higher due to ICE's failure to serve notices to a peer on 291,000 children, leaving them without scheduled court dates and outside the formal immigration process.
320,000 total is what we're looking at there.
ICE does not have an automated process for sharing information internally between the Office of the Principal Legal Advisor and Enforcement and Removal Operations.
and externally with stakeholders, and this gap has left ICE relying on manual multi-step processes which have proven ineffective.
According to the report, even after new guidance was issued by OPLA in December 2023 to address these issues, ICE did very little to ensure their field officers started to handle these cases.
Khafari claims that at one field office, only a single officer out of eight attempted to locate missing children.
Uh, Khafari added that ICE did start a new formal process to find these children as per his recommendation, um, but his office is now waiting for proof that ICE's new process has been put into action." Unquote.
So, basically, according to Tony Robbins, all of these children, all 320,000, have been trafficked into the country, have been put into slavery or a sex trafficker.
Um, the reality is these same fuckwits who complain about migration and want ICE to be literally baying for blood are also the same people now complaining that ICE isn't paying attention to missing children.
Like, you caused the problem, you fucks.
You know?
This is, oh, it's infuriating.
They're props.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
They're props.
Absolutely, that's what they are.
And if you think Tony Robbins cares about any of them, I got a bridge to sell ya.
No.
There's a reason these aren't documentaries.
If any of these jokers make a documentary, are they working on one?
We'll get to why he didn't do a documentary in a minute.
Actually, he did speak us to that.
I bet I know exactly why.
Oh, they don't really do the job?
Do they not do as good as movies do?
If they make a documentary, I'll fucking eat my hat.
This is absurd.
A documentary that isn't just like, you know, Alex Jones and Endgame.
You know, using Microsoft and Carter as a source.
Oh, try it!
No, no, no!
Even that!
I said what I said.
Okay.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're not going to.
They're not going to.
And you know what's fucking crazy is the money that is like, they are getting, they're awash in cash, making all this money.
Cause also movies are very lucrative and documentaries are far less so.
So they're getting all this money.
Meanwhile, Vice and other organizations that have to report on this shit are having to file for bankruptcy because of fucking vulture capital.
That's what's happening, and it's happening fucking everywhere.
The satanic panic never fucking stopped.
It's always been going on.
Stranger danger is bullshit.
Like, there's... Oh my god.
No, yeah, I'm kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, next we get to the issue of censorship.
Does help if I press the thing.
There we go.
It seems like the kind of film that could really bring an important message that extraordinarily seems to be one that is being prevented from reaching a large audience.
I find it very hard even to speculate as to why the establishment wouldn't want as many people to know as possible that there are
12 million people 12 million children under conditions of slavery to this day some of them the most forms of slavery they're difficult even to imagine and and of course the story of Jesus in your film City of Dreams is a story about a child trapped in labor conditions and as Tony's already pointed out is we focus on this boy and his dreams the mechanics of child slavery the business of getting a kid over the border
Is it true that, and Tony maybe you'll take this one because I see now that Mo can handle a soliloquy himself, that influencers are being shadow banned and prevented from talking about the film?
Do you think that's because of the issues of the film or the economic model and the threat that films made outside of the establishment present?
Or do you think it's the issues?
I don't know which one to hope for really.
It's a great question.
I can't give you a straight answer.
I wish I could.
You know, when we did Sound of Freedom, of course, it was a Christian distribution group, you know, Angel Studios.
And for some reason, this country being Christian has become a negative in some way.
I don't know how you could possibly explain that.
But this one is Roadside Pictures.
It's a big studio.
It's not tied to any political side.
And, you know, this is an issue that doesn't matter if you're right or left, Republican or Democrat.
I mean, this is our children.
This is, like, it shouldn't matter who this is.
There's no political statement here whatsoever.
It's just saying this is what's really happening.
And by the way, this is based on real stories.
Like, you know, Moe's read this story about these kids just outside of L.A.
in this little city.
They had 70 kids underground.
They didn't see light for seven years.
All enslaved labor making these materials.
So people just don't know this is happening in their backyard, and we want to wake them up to it.
But yes, we've gotten about a dozen of our top influencers have said we've been shadow banned.
They've sent us the piece saying, you know, that they've been stopped.
You know, we don't understand why.
I know Zuckerberg just apologized the other day for some of the things that they interfered with.
So maybe it's an old algorithm.
They haven't updated, but we're requesting they clean it up as soon as possible, and hopefully they will.
It's an old algorithm issue, that's what it is.
Yeah, I couldn't find any evidence of influences being shadowbanned and prevented from like, you know, posting about the movie or talking about it or whatever else.
Honestly, I would love to see some evidence of it, but I I get the feeling it might not exist.
And this is just an attempt to make it seem like their film is so dangerous.
The elites are trying to take it down.
Or there is also a possibility that they wanted some influencers to do it and they just didn't want to promote the film.
And they were like, oh, no, I got shadow banned.
What a shame.
I can't do your film anymore.
Or it's not good.
So people don't like it.
Also that?
Possibly that.
The 70 children thing, I couldn't find an example of 70 children kept underground for 7 years making clothes just outside of LA.
I couldn't find that for love nor money.
I do wonder if he's getting his facts mixed up.
Nor is that practical.
No.
No, they do that above ground.
In warehouses.
Yes, indeed they do.
I wonder if he's getting his facts mixed up because I did find a story from 2022 about 70 missing children being found.
Many of the kids aged 10 to 17 who included victims of sex trafficking and physical and sexual abuse were located in West Texas, according to authorities, and some were also found in the Dallas-Fort Worth area as well as in Colorado and Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.
Maybe that's what he was... Above ground, underground.
Above ground?
It didn't specify.
Yeah.
I couldn't find out.
So maybe he's getting mixed up or maybe he's just completely full of shit.
It's very, very possible.
Well, a very popular like early QAnon, like pre 2020, like early, early QAnon like thing.
It kind of went from like FEMA, like anyway, these details have been going around for a long time as far as like deep underground Yeah, that's true.
It could very well.
an underground like under like the uh you know like basically imprisonment of children or otherwise children probably uh none of it's real so this isn't uh it's hard to nail down facts that there aren't any but like under the getty and that's we all know that that's in southern california that's yeah that's a wackadoo remote viewing guy yeah that's true yeah about q anon yeah it could it could very well it definitely sounds adjacent doesn't it um yeah
and you know these this is all this is all q q adjacent stuff um It sure is.
It sure the fuck is.
All right, so next we get to hear from the director and writer, Mohit Ramchandani, right?
Yeah, it's an important film for people to see, both in terms of its subject, but also it's a global film.
Mo, how did you tackle the fantasy scenes with the protagonist who dreams of making it as a football star?
What kind of techniques were you using?
To make those films in particular, and was it important to you to contrast the kind of transcendent glory of the child's imagination and innocent wonder with the kind of despair that ultimately ends up being the conditions of his labour?
Yes, definitely.
You know, that was one of the decisions I made was I don't want to make a docudrama.
I feel like docudramas and documentaries, they scratch the surface of our intellectual curiosity, but they don't kind of hit you.
They don't, you know, pull at the heartstrings.
And I wanted to make a Slumdog Millionaire or City of God, you know?
Yeah, so... I bet you did.
I bet you did.
So this guy didn't want to make a documentary because he wanted to make a Slumdog Millionaire City of Gotham because you know what documentaries just aren't that impactful on the heart.
Reality you know it doesn't move you you know you know when you when you see it actually literally all play out on this yeah this it's So he does later, by the way, actually reference Passion of the Christ as being like a big influence for him in making this movie.
Because they all love torture porn.
That's what they're actually showing up for is torture porn.
Absolutely.
And the reality here, of course, is that a well-sourced and made documentary is a hell of a lot of work.
And it requires you to actually examine the issues and possibly present ways to solve them.
And also, it's not that glamorous.
Whereas a major motion picture with scenes of torturing children, well, that's glamour, baby.
That's Hollywood.
And it's just so much less work.
That's why.
I mean, it's plenty of work.
Yeah, it is far less work.
It's plenty of work.
Yes!
Yeah, a lot goes into it, but less factual effort, let's put it that way.
Quick point about Mohit here.
He's until now been a fairly small-time movie producer.
Before this, this is his directorial debut, right?
He has previously worked on movies with the likes of Anne Hathaway, Paul Rudd, and James Franco, but you know, nothing big time really.
He is also currently facing a lawsuit from his ex and mother of his child for being an abusive racist.
The lawsuit is really something else, and I'm gonna put another trigger warning here for there's some pretty extreme racist shit and also serious domestic abuse, alright?
So everybody who's gonna stick around, brace yourself, and if you don't want to hear it in detail, skip ahead a few minutes, okay?
All right, so here's a couple of select quotes from this dude, which are text messages he sent to his ex, right?
So we'll start here.
Quote, I hate Mexico.
I hate fucking Mexicans.
And if Trump runs in 2024, then on my mother's life, I'm voting for him and making a political contribution to the wall.
I should punch this fucking beaner in the face.
Fucking cocksucking Mexican post house.
It is the shittiest place I've ever been to in my life.
It's worse than Hong Kong and China.
Number one shithole.
Vote Trump 2024.
He texted that to somebody?
To his wife?
To his wife!
Okay, yeah.
Interesting connection of ideas.
Layers.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a lot.
So his ex, Del Castillo, who is a lawyer in Mexico, she also claims in the suit that Ramchandani forced her into a health regime that included coffee enemas while she was pregnant.
Wow!
Mm-hmm!
She also accuses Ramchandani of having a classic case of Munchausen syndrome by adult proxy and using his doctor friend to convince Del Castillo that she was ill so she would quit her job.
So, She claims to have learned the doctor friend in question was not licensed to practice medicine in California as well.
The prenatal health regime allegedly also included a special diet, supplements, including one bearing a warning that it was not safe to have during pregnancy, stretching and exercise.
And according to the suit, Ramchandani repeatedly insisted she take pain medication that she didn't want, requiring her to secretly spit them out when Ramchandani wasn't looking.
The suit states, when Ms.
del Castillo expressed her concerns over taking the supplements Ramchandani insisted she take, he became furious, blamed her for forgetting to take her supplements on her job, threatened to destroy her work computer, and deprived her of sleep until she promised to quit her job the next morning.
So, literal torture.
She says the abuse culminated in a violent attack on May of 2022 when Ramchandani allegedly dragged her out of the bed, pushed her, causing her to hit a door, kicked her out of his apartment, and slapped-slash-stiff-armed her face.
He supposedly prevented her from calling 911 and threatened her with deportation.
Del Castillo says she escaped to Mexico after the alleged attack and Ramchandani cancelled her health insurance and has continued threatening her with legal action since.
Mohit denied all claims, but of course, and said, quote, I have spent the last weeks working for free, supporting immigrants.
All the kids that are in my film, they are my family, unquote.
Well, there we go.
I guess he's not racist.
I hope they aren't, because we see how you treat your family.
So she was pregnant while he was attacking her?
Is that the contention?
Yep, that's the assessment.
That's the assessment.
And yeah, part of the lawsuit is to make sure he never fucking sees his kid.
And I'm like, yeah, you know what?
You know what?
That's fair enough.
So really, this is a conversation between three real pieces of shit going on here.
You know, it's pretty staggering.
And they're making so much money.
I'm like, what is this world?
Tony Robbins can't keep getting away with this.
Like, this guy's new.
He's not gonna last.
Cause he's, sorry, nope.
You don't have the riz.
Tony Robbins is an institution.
He's gotta, he's gotta come down.
This is not, I mean, the thing is, is like part of the reason why Tony Robbins can get away with this kind of stuff when, and even Tim Ballard is like, They keep below that kind of public scrutiny.
You've got to stay in your lane, I guess.
Sound of Freedom, had that movie not movied, he'd be fine.
People wouldn't be paying attention to him.
People wouldn't be looking at this.
If they're trying to make a movie like Tim Ballard made a movie, potentially, this is what could make them pop their heads up enough to actually See consequences?
I'm hoping.
I'm being positive, everybody.
Fingers crossed.
I mean, you know what I mean?
Like, when they overstep the like, okay, like, kind of like the culture at large is like, well, yeah, we've got a bunch of pockets of freaks everywhere.
And we can't do much about the pockets of freaks, even though we absolutely can and should.
But like, once it gets too kind of like popular, and they like, Really juice these numbers with churches buying out theaters full of tickets over and over and over again or other organizations that aren't necessarily religious or people who just have Too much fucking money because we don't enforce tax laws here.
Then all of that overflow.
That's what is allowed.
This is allowed because of that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the Christian right are loving this film thus far, by the way, which is unsurprising given that, you know, it's a main character called Jesus getting tortured.
You know, it's Jesus getting tortured, right?
It's very on the nose.
All right.
Now, Tony Robbins tells us what we can do to help the situation in the next clip.
About time.
Cool.
I really think this film, you know, our goal with this film, you know, Russell, obviously, is it's a call to action.
It's, it's a absolute thriller.
You're on the edge of your seat, it'll grab you.
But it's also really about like, what can people do?
So afterwards, there's a call to action, people go to the website, there's all kinds of things you can do.
Where you buy your clothes, you know, Mo, you might talk a little bit about what can be done in that area, plays such a role because of all the subcontractors.
You know, you can save a child's life these days.
There's one organization that I work with, My wife and I have been working with them for many years, Colt.
They use this incredible AI and this machine learning.
In some cities in Indonesia, they've actually taken down these groups by 91%.
Like prostitution is down 91%.
It's unheard of.
And they can save a child for $500.
So we have kids now that are sponsoring to save children's lives.
You can volunteer.
So we hope that people will be stimulated, but the very minimum we want to do is just like, you know, what stopped slavery in the United States?
It was Uncle Tom's Cabin.
Somebody writing the story, a storyteller waking people up until people said enough of this.
And we think this hopefully will be the beginning of that process and waking people up.
Wow.
Yeah, the little Uncle Tom's cabin, that was the thing that solved slavery in the US.
Sure, sure, sure.
And so City of Dreams is gonna do that, but for child slavery.
Uh-huh.
What's fun is obviously he continues not to mention the name of any of these fucking organizations or charities someone could theoretically donate to to save children and whatever else.
Also makes it impossible to find and look any of them up.
And you know what?
I've looked through his fucking socials, right?
He posts like promotional images of like, we raised this much money.
He blurs out the name of the organization so you can't fucking find it.
Like, there's a picture of him on a stage with, like, a blurry thing of, like, what would be the organisation's name and then just numbers next to it.
I'm like, what organisation?
You're just, you're making money for something.
What is it?
It's infuriating.
I mean, that's the Scientology playbook.
Ah, right.
Why?
Because Scientology must bring Bibles.
They need food.
Yeah.
You miserable pieces of shit.
And if you actually go- Well, and Russell said, called, right?
Like, are we gonna- that's- Russell prompted him to say, because, like, because Tony Robbins was saying, the organization, and then Russell's like, called.
Yeah.
And then just Tony Robbins just breezed right past it.
Blow past it.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't hear that, listeners.
Like- Nope, nope.
Even Russell's like, plug a thing.
Yeah.
Say a thing.
What can people do?
Oh, but you know what they can do?
They can go to the website for City of Dreams, right?
And you know, if you go to that website, there is a resources section, right?
You know, theoretically how you can help.
And out of the 10 ways to help, 9 of them are ways in which you can promote the film by merch or by tickets.
And the other, the only one other thing is signing a petition!
Which is at least something.
But other than that, not a fucking thing.
Is it though?
Not really.
This is the thing.
It's a gesture, you know?
But other than that, it's just promotion for their fucking movie.
Like, you look at like, oh, this is a problem.
Here's how you can help.
How can we help?
Buy things.
Buy this.
Promote the movie.
It's fucking disgusting.
It really is.
They're just dropshippers.
All of them.
Aspiring to mindset dropship, that's exactly what they're doing.
There's exploiting an issue and then there's this.
This is fucking next level gross.
It's genuinely horrendous.
Oh dear.
Onslaught of banality.
Of evil!
Of evil.
Of evil.
Banal evil.
Banal, predatory, capitalist evil.
Fantastic times.
I want to know who those orgs are so bad.
I probably fucking listen to podcasts or like, I probably watch videos of exposés already.
There's probably shit in there that I might even, I'm gonna look into it.
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna see.
Sure.
Not this week, because it's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When we get back.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm dying.
When the UFOs have flown back off, then you can, you know.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
You can get to it.
Back to their home planet.
All right.
We've got a final clip here, and Mohit has a way to theoretically fix the problem of child slavery in America, he thinks.
But, Moe, you might share about, you know, what happened.
Yeah, I know, and I'm sure that Russell, you know, I've listened to some of his stuff before, so I know he's going to be on board with this.
Like, I presented this to the Labor Department last year, and I said, all the organizations and saving children and all that, I totally get it, but I have a very simple solution that is proven and that I know that will work.
And it's as simple as this.
I used to work on Wall Street for about three months.
I worked actually in the city of London.
And every single third-party trading office has to have an SEC compliance officer.
That's law.
And I said, why does this law not exist for all other businesses?
Why is it that Gap or Reebok or Whole Foods or whoever they are can subcontract and not have a compliance officer in that facility?
And I presented this at a meeting that the Labor Department had.
And the lawyer came up to me and he goes, hey, man, that was a really good idea.
you know, came up to me and he goes, hey, man, that was a really good idea.
And I was like, no, I'm an idiot.
And I was like, no, I'm an idiot.
I don't know anything.
I don't know anything.
I'm a filmmaker.
I'm a filmmaker.
You shouldn't be saying that to me.
You shouldn't be saying that to me.
You should be implementing this.
You should be implementing this.
And of course, nothing's happening with it because I believe, and I'm not an expert, that corporate interests pay for lobbying groups and they decide who make laws.
And this is a very simple thing.
If this happens, I mean, there's no way this can continue because all those third party sites are going to have compliance officers in them and there's going to be a hundred thousand dollar fine per person per human rights violation.
Like that makes a real impact.
And for some reason, we're making all the economic upside for them.
Right.
So we're working with some people to see if we get legislation into Congress, you know, You know, we've got people on both sides of the aisle to see what we can do to give it a push.
Do you now?
Good luck with that one.
I cannot imagine the legislative red tape, let alone the cost to try and make that achievable.
Or how the fuck would that even be enforced?
And who is going to be doing the checking for human rights violations and holding these organizations to account?
There's already a whole system in place.
There's already a labor board.
I can't, am I dead?
Have I died?
Because this is also, I think it's well established, this labor violations and just basically capitalist consumption ruining the planet and all of our lives is near and dear to my heart.
So I think I'm having a stroke.
I'm so overwhelmed with, I don't even have anything I have all the things to say.
They're Mr. Bernsing right now.
They're all trying to fit through the door and none of them can.
Cause, holy shit.
Y'all heard it.
Y'all heard it.
What is there to say?
It's absurd.
Absurd, infantile, ironic.
Yeah, great, cool.
You're brain dead.
Thanks, Mohit.
Appreciate it, buddy.
We'll see if anything comes from this piece of legislation.
I'm sure you won't encounter any roadblocks whatsoever of any kind.
We don't need it!
There's already...
There are so many state apparatuses to introduce new legislation.
Anything new is fucking crazy.
We need to repair and support the systems we already have in place and stop states from passing laws that allow child labor.
And it's happening in fucking slaughterhouses!
And it is like the real-ass fucking Jesuses of the world.
This is so insane.
This is so insane.
Oh my god, I feel crazy.
And I'm like... Oh my god.
It's like, again, these people are purporting to try and fix the problem and they appear to somehow be actively making it worse instead.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they fucking are.
For money?
At what point is it like... I mean, it's for power, right?
It's fucking pathological.
I don't know, I can't... What?
This is so... I mean, straight up, I think in Alabama and Arkansas, allowing child labor...
Basically, rolling back labor protections, left, right, and center, for children, is already happening.
And there are so many apparatuses and organizations that are already doing that.
Support them.
You can't link one of them?
Who do you think is making the fucking t-shirts that you're selling for your little movie?
Seriously?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't even have time to go down that road, but yeah, you've got to wonder if they've made sure that their ship is right.
They're going to hide it.
There is no way.
That's the thing, the very complaint that he does have is contracts, right?
Contracting to factories is why She and then Zara, and also even just fines, $100,000 fine, where's that money gonna go?
For Tony Robbins, of all fucking people, to say that fines are gonna stop you from doing shit blows my gourd.
It's just part of it.
She and then Zara and fucking Boohoo and Forever 21, all these, They commit massive labor violations on every single step of the chain, and they just pay the fines if they're caught.
Yeah, they factor it in as just a cost of business.
Millions.
Yeah.
Shutting them down is the only thing that will make a difference.
It's the same as, like, parking fines, right?
You know, if you're wealthy and you can afford the fine, well, that's just the price of parking there.
Well, that's any fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fines are just a tax on the poor for doing the same thing that rich people don't care.
They don't have to care.
Exactly, exactly.
If it's not a percentage of income, then it's just against the fucking pool.
Oh, good lord.
Anyway, that was Tony Robbins' most recent appearance.
Well, the child labor thing is like, it is this massive issue.
Yeah, it's a terrible problem.
Also, like exploitation in general.
These are all massive issues.
The amount of energy these fucking charlatan psychopaths are taking away from very real problems that are happening globally makes me sick.
It makes me, I'm not being hyperbolic.
Y'all listen, we have fun here.
I can get a little silly.
This makes me sick.
All the time.
Genuinely disgusting.
The amount of work and effort, like I have built my whole life to try to not contribute to this system as much as I possibly can.
And, like, I'm living it and I'm paying attention to it.
Even, like, the Green New Deal and, like, green energy and all this stuff, like, there's a lot of fuckery that is going on right now that is going to, like, imperial blowback is going to happen and it will come home to roost because there is a new scramble for Africa happening right now.
It's already happening and is entirely man-made.
These are not inevitable famines.
This is like, I mean, climate change doesn't help, but things that are happening in Congo and the Sudan, those are happening because of batteries, which, guess what?
Fucking cobalt can be recycled, but they don't want to do it because it's cheaper.
There are so many things that, like, so many decisions that are made and agreed upon by, like, corporations and just society at large, just like, oh, well, it's too big, I can't do anything about it.
No, there could be regulations.
What's amazing is this dude specifically was asking for more regulations.
The amount of fucking, like, wasted effort when they could just pick a thing that's, like, cause, yeah, it's all props, right?
Like, all of this, the labor exploitation and like, oh, same to children.
They don't care.
They don't care because they would just already link up with the group that was already doing the thing, probably for decades at this point.
But instead, everything in the world is a prop.
Every woman, every child is a prop so that they can get to where they want to go, which is more power and more money and more success and more fucking cars or whatever.
Oh my God.
Just, I want people to pay attention.
Please, please, please, please, please pay attention to what is happening in Africa.
What's happening in Serbia.
There are native lands in all over, at least North America.
It's fucking happening in South America where they are trying to use lithium mining as an, as an excuse, like it's part of these green new deals that, and no one is holding the Western countries feet to the fire that are, Just exploiting these resources.
If you are removing child labor laws in America, they are going to be exploited by new mining industries.
This is not an accident.
And I know I sound like a fucking conspiracy theorist, but it's true.
And there are Native people that are protesting and trying to get this to stop.
There are Appalachian people that are trying to stop pipelines.
It is not an accident that women don't get to have abortions anymore.
Children are going to be allowed to work at like their child labor laws are fucking gone.
And we are trying to bring these quote unquote third world quote unquote problems back home.
It's called imperial blowback and it happens all the time.
And we're living in another whole season of it.
We need to pay attention to what is going on.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, the idea of new regulation is crazy.
It's just like, how about we just actually enforce the old ones?
From this dipshit?
Like, how about we actually just enforce the old ones for a start?
That would be helpful, you know?
The ones that are already there, that are fucking toothless at present.
It would be great to actually, you know, do something about that.
The things that are already there.
Um, but no.
But you want a law with your name on it to make yourself fucking feel better.
Yup!
Gross.
And, um, yeah, whether it would end up being a law or just a link to his next movie, I don't fucking know, but good lord, these people, honestly.
They could make a movie about that too.
Fucking gross.
Yeah, yeah.
Get real meta with it.
Mr. Domestic Booster goes to Washington again.
This is so fucked up.
This is so gross.
Yep!
Fuck these people.
Jesus H. That's where I'm completely fucked.
All three of those people to be honest.
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