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June 27, 2024 - On Brand

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OB #62 - Alex Jones w/Knowledge Fight

The guy with the freakishly large neck came back on Stay Free, so Dan and Jordan of Knowledge Fight broke in to help us deal with him, tag-team style. Support us on Patreon! - patreon.com/OnBrand Buy a magnet! - getrealactualgoldhere

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	I only suggest how to think and how to vote.
	Extraordinary cultural moment.
	Already iconic.
	Already iconic.
	We love you.
	You're welcome here.
	Where did this guy come from?
	It's like he's been doing it for ages.
	He's very confident.
	Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing.
	I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
	Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory?
	That's sort of like a poem.
	Is this Eminem?
	Man, if we didn't come together in that stream, I'm assuming it was just the Pete.
	Now these are the kind of conversations I think that the legacy media can no longer compete with.
	Win win win win win win win This is On Brand, a podcast where we discuss the ideas and antics of one Russell Brand.
	I'm Al Worth and each week I go through an episode of Brand's Show with my co-host Lauren B. That's me, I'm Lauren B and I'm the host that has no idea what we'll be getting in today but it's usually bad.
	It's almost invariably bad, which is why we do, uh, well, we usually do the good thing before the bad thing, but this week, well, I have something of a confession to make to our audience.
	See, there's been something of a missing piece of Russell's content that I haven't quite explained fully until now.
	See, back in October of 2023, not terribly long after the allegations against Russell came out, Alex Jones came on his show.
	And we said we'd get to it, and for various reasons, time kind of got away from us, and we never actually did get to it.
	And since that interview, Russell has been talking about Alex on average twice a week, usually expounding on Alex's various predictions, or pointing out how right he is, and how dangerous he is, Various actors are trying to take him down and then as part of Florida week Russell went on Infowars Mostly to tell everyone how innocent he is and that the legacy media CIA and British government are trying to take him down which We've covered that plenty of times and Alex also returns to stay free with Russell Brand and
	So this week uh we are in fact going to cover Alex Jones coming on Stay Free.
	Now there is another podcast that covers Alex Jones but unfortunately they're not here right now um you know but it's not like they're the only ones who can cover Alex Jones it's not like we're encroaching on their territory or anything so we'll just have to charge ahead without them.
	Now, up top, I would like to point out...
	What just happened?
	Wha- what?
	Oh my god, it's Knowledge Byte!
	[Intro Music]
	(laughing)
	Too sweet.
	Too sweet.
	There we are.
	That's right, Knowledge Party here!
	Is this a recorded video?
	The production value's here.
	Unbelievable.
	Does everybody get a video package?
	No!
	What just happened there?
	Where did you get my personal information and why was my social security number on there?
	Yep, yep, mother's maiden name, date of birth, it's all there.
	Found the music video that I was in back in college.
	El Rancho, let's go!
	Yes, yes I did.
	Shout out to Daniel Scharr.
	Yeah, that was an experience.
	Yeah, welcome Dan and welcome back Jordan.
	Thank you so much for coming on.
	Wouldn't have it any other way in having to deal with Alex, to be honest.
	It's a thrill.
	I don't know what we're gonna talk about, but Russell Brant weirds me out,
	so this will be interesting.
	That's not an unreasonable position.
	I think that's a fairly common position, to be perfectly honest.
	All right, we're very happy to have you here.
	I know a bunch of our listeners aren't aware of you guys, but you're the podcast that covers Alex Jones,
	which is, yeah, pretty important to what we're covering today.
	So, let's just get into our first clip, I think.
	There we go.
	Oh, this is the first clip?
	Dan headbanging.
	So my friend Daniel Shar really liked a local Mexican restaurant back in Colombia.
	He made a music video about them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Dan Friesen, this is your life.
	No, no, no.
	What we'll actually be looking at is Russell's introduction of Alex.
	And so Alex hasn't come on yet.
	It's just a little introduction, but it does raise a couple of points that probably need addressing up top.
	Hello there you Awakening Wonders, it's another Friday, same old tiny hat.
	We've got an amazing show today because Alex Jones is on.
	You might think, well I've seen enough of Alex Jones, what else is there I could possibly know about Alex Jones?
	But what does Alex Jones tell you about our culture?
	What does he tell you about news media?
	What does he tell you about censorship?
	What does he tell you about Perjury, litigation, lawfare, the necessity for sensitivity when speaking in an ad-hoc fashion about extremely contentious and difficult subjects, the necessity sometimes for mere culpers, contrition, compunction, Christianity!
	So many c-words baby!
	Alex Jones will be with us in a few minutes.
	If you're watching us on YouTube remember we're only there for the first few minutes precisely because of the issue Of censorship.
	Remember, this is the world's most dangerous man, the establishment's most hated person, the single most censored man in history, the first media figure to be erased in one day, de-platformed before it was a common term, and not just de-platformed, sued, attacked and criminally charged.
	What did he do that was so wrong?
	Obviously, he said things that were pretty appalling, particularly if you're a parent.
	He said that Sandy Hook didn't happen.
	That's what he said.
	And the Sandy Hook families were obviously Upset about that.
	But do you think what drives these legal cases is the transgressive things that he's said and how that hurts people's feelings?
	Or do you think that it's possible he has views that deeply rattle the people who run America?
	Is Alex Jones crazy?
	Is Alex Jones fundamentally right about a lot of things?
	Is he both?
	Why do they really want to shut him down?
	One thing I'll remind you of is that he predicted 9-11.
	That's the thing I struggle to get by.
	It's awful!
	That was prior to 9/11, said Osama, there's this guy Osama bin Laden, you've not heard of him yet,
	but the CIA are gonna blame him for attacks on the World Trade Center.
	I mean that happened, I mean that... Jesus.
	Jesus indeed.
	Bin Laden was like an underground rapper no one had heard of, and Alex broke him in the mainstream.
	What?
	He already bombed the World Trade Center, you asshole!
	Jordan, your response is so correct.
	So many goddamn words.
	Paragraphs aren't meant to be that fast.
	Yeah, when we first started doing this show, to actually understand him, I would have to do like 30 second clips and just have like five of them just to understand the question.
	Thankfully, I've gotten past that now, but yeah, the bamboozling feeling is correct.
	He just has a tone I don't want to be around, you know?
	Like, I emotionally definitely felt exactly the same as Jordan's yelling and Lauren pulling up a hammer.
	Like, it just, it was like, nah.
	That's my emotional support hammer, by the way.
	That's the emotional support.
	Very necessary.
	Yeah, it happened to be kind of behind me because this is all my work, working on things, things.
	And I was like, well, sometimes we just need to have a buddy.
	Sometimes you need the hammer up top.
	Yeah, it's not.
	It's your plush.
	It's my squishmallow.
	Yeah, it's my comfort animal.
	But yeah, that's, um, it's it's that way, at least like most of the time, if that's any relief to y'all.
	Cool.
	Yeah, if it helps, he's always like this.
	Sometimes, sometimes worse.
	Yeah, I think gishkalfs make us uncomfortable.
	And I think that's the appropriate response, because that's all.
	Yeah.
	That's correct.
	It stopped being words.
	It stopped being words and it started being a series of sounds and that makes me angry.
	The sounds had such a dense layer of irony.
	That he wasn't being understood, like he was being ironic, but doesn't know he is.
	And the layer of that is so, like a fondant that's just on top of these words that he's saying.
	Yep.
	It's just, it's baffling.
	The fondant makes it too rich.
	It's too much to take down.
	No, I completely agree.
	So for those of our listeners who don't know Alex Jones that well, there is a meme among the alt-right that Alex Jones was right and this 9-11 claim is one of the most tend to hang their hats on.
	So Dan, Jordan, did Alex predict 9-11?
	Kind of?
	Kind of.
	I mean, yeah, in the sense that he predicts stuff all the time that doesn't end up happening and sometimes he's like, before the, you know, the economic downturn in like 2008-2009, for years and years he'd said it was right around the corner.
	Do you give him credit for calling that?
	Nah, not really.
	There's an edited video of Alex from the summer of 2001 that makes it look like he appeared, like he precisely predicted 9-11, like Bin Laden's gonna send the towers, the planes are gonna be used and all this, and that's what they use, that's what they hang their hat on of the prediction, and that's not fair.
	I think what's fascinating about it is very similar to the explanation why and how it works.
	So in 1987, whenever there was that stock market crash, right?
	And then they didn't do anything about it.
	That day you could have been like, I predict the stock market shall crash and you will be right, you know?
	So like whenever Bin Laden attacked the World Trade Center in 93 and nobody got him, you could have been like, I predict Bin Laden is, what was he going to take the month off?
	Like, no, he's still coming for that building.
	And he kept saying he was going to.
	He said no!
	He said many, many times that he was going to do it again, and he did it again!
	Yeah.
	I think there's a degree of like, well, most people could have really predicted that there was at least going to be an attempt.
	And there's also a degree of like, the guy just throws spaghetti at the wall constantly.
	Bin Laden or Alex?
	Alex, more so than Bin Laden.
	Not anymore!
	In terms of predictions.
	Yeah, I was gonna say.
	Yeah, very true.
	Very true.
	I think that it's something that, like, if you entirely deny it and take away from the fact that, like, no, there is video of Alex, you know, vaguely referencing stuff.
	In a way, if you do that, I think that that's not dealing with the issue, honestly.
	But I think the way that someone like Russell is doing this is the much worse version.
	And it's all in service of just trying to be like, yeah, you know what?
	Everyone thought it was crazy when he did this prophecy back then, so now, listen to what he's saying, it's probably gonna come true.
	And that's not fair.
	That's some bullshit.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Cause you're just guessing everything all the time.
	That's not how we take a test in school.
	You can't just, you can't just fill in all the Scantron and then, Oh my God, I was so right.
	That's not really.
	If you get one right, you pass.
	Forever.
	All of your, all of the rest of your exams, you get a pass for the rest of your life.
	Because he also predicts insane things all the time that have not come true at all.
	We're supposed to have Ebola right now, right?
	Actually, that's an interesting question.
	They changed math, right?
	Like, I've heard that from parents now, where they changed math.
	They were like, ah, we were doing math all wrong all those years ago.
	Would I still be able to pass one of those tests?
	Maybe.
	Do you have to do it the new math way to get the new math answer?
	I don't know.
	That was always a problem for me.
	Like, I would always end up with the right answer, but then when you made me do long division and stuff like that, I would get marks taken off for, like, you didn't show your work right.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, maybe.
	That was a problem 20 years ago for me, though.
	I feel like I got there should be fine enough.
	I got there.
	I'm going to go with that because I don't like the alternative, particularly.
	I'm not going to volunteer for that program.
	That's just mean.
	I was still correct.
	Screw you.
	Yeah, yeah, that's that's reasonable.
	So let's get to the first main question from Russell.
	And naturally, the first thing we tackle is the subject of InfoWars shutting down.
	Alex Jones, thanks for joining us.
	Russell, it's great to be here with you at such a critical time.
	Alex Jones, it's actually happening.
	InfoWars is being shut down.
	The FBI appeared to be involved, the CIA appeared to be involved.
	Can you tell us, do you see this as a pivotal moment?
	If they can come for you and take you down, if they can reclaim your assets, does that mean that this is the first Domino, the next is Tucker, then it's Rogan, that this is, in a sense, the beginning of a series of attacks that will shut down the free speech space?
	Well, that's right.
	What they're doing to me is a beta test for everybody else.
	And I'm just blessed they're doing it, because it shows we've been on the right side of history, on the right target.
	But I told you all what happened.
	The FBI went in court, admitted they're running it.
	They have the CIA guy, they got caught by Project Veritas spinoff group admitting it all.
	That's all well known now, but what are we saying they're so scared of?
	We love God, we love humanity, we love freedom, we love justice.
	So yes, our message is scaring the system, so they're trying to shut us down right now.
	And as bad as this is, I am extremely blessed to be in this position right now.
	So yeah, I'm more concerned about why is the deep state trying to shut me down right now?
	Is it a Trump assassination?
	Is it World War III?
	Is it economic collapse?
	I don't know, but definitely big stuff's coming because they're so desperate to shut us down right now.
	It's a long story, but two weeks ago, They tried to without a court order with the CRO and the bankruptcy gets into law, shut us down without a court order.
	Now there's a court hearing tomorrow.
	They may shut us down tomorrow, but there is a desperation to shut us off because they don't want us on air when we cover what is about to happen.
	So I don't think about me, which I'm fine.
	I love talking about me, but I'm not dumb.
	This isn't about me.
	Something big is about to happen.
	Why are they so desperate to get me off air?
	Hmm.
	So, Alex Jones says the Deep State is desperate to get him off air because big things are happening, possibly a Trump assassination or World War III, and that's why InfoWars is being shut down!
	Now, so far as I'm aware, the court has a different opinion of what's happening and what is going to be an orderly shutdown, um, so far as I've read.
	In a nutshell, for those not in the know, what did Alex do and why is InfoWars being shut down and sold?
	Is this a... Is this a pop quiz?
	Are we on the Scantron again?
	Pop quiz!
	I choose C!
	A, B, D, and C!
	I'm definitely right.
	The only thing I'll agree with Alex on is it is a long story.
	But the long and short of it is that he made material claims and defamatory statements about family members in Sandy Hook.
	He acted in ways that led to harassment of these families.
	To, uh, you know, some of the examples of which are fundraising for Wolfgang Haubig while he was harassing the families, uh, sending Dan Badandi, one of his reporters, to Newtown to cover it, and, uh, you know, it just led to a lot of bad shit.
	So these families sued him, and then he didn't cooperate with the lawsuit against him, got a default judgment, and then tried to evade paying off some of these things after he was sentenced to pay a bunch of money.
	He tried to get away from it by going to bankruptcy courts, and this interview is happening the day before his hearing, where it was pretty clear that they were going to kick him out of the case out of bankruptcy court.
	And so that would make him vulnerable to these plaintiffs suing him in state courts
	and make him, like, a lot more vulnerable.
	So that's where he's at.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, sounds like he fucked around and found out.
	That's pretty much where I've landed.
	I mean, you can't really go on a British dude's show, though, and talk about how your state bankruptcy court issues are going.
	You have to like, you know, it's everybody.
	It's a deep state thing.
	You can't be like, ah, I fucked up.
	It's more exciting.
	It's definitely more exciting.
	I guess that is the next question.
	Are the FBI and the CIA involved in taking him down?
	No, I have a question for you.
	Jordan, you get right to the heart of the matter and I appreciate that.
	So I'm looking at Russell Brand's background and he's got, is that a mixture of the American flag and the British?
	It is, yeah.
	This is the special background that he's got while he was in Florida.
	They put him in what looks like a tiny little cupboard, to be honest, and he's got that, and like a couple of things next to his side.
	Yeah, he was visiting Rumble headquarters in Miami, and this was his setup for the week.
	What I find so strange about this world is that I've been to a lot of different countries now, and it's very exciting, and I never feel patriotic, except when dealing with Britain.
	Because we didn't get King George.
	I'm still carrying that around with me a lot, so it feels like Alex should also be angry to see that perversion of our flag.
	He talks about how his enemies are the Anglo-American establishment.
	Totally.
	What is that flag if not Anglo-American, British-American merger?
	It's the king!
	Yeah!
	Fuck the king!
	That should be the first thing he says.
	Now, it's interesting, Jordan, that you take note of this background, because what I see is a man who is annoyed that he has to talk to Alex.
	Yeah, that is a face on him, isn't it?
	I get a strong feeling for Russell Brand of like, I'm better than this.
	This is literally what we were talking about before y'all showed up to record.
	This is great.
	I feel so validated with other witnesses in the room.
	How he was gonna feel.
	It does, it does develop as we go, I will say that.
	It is his face though.
	It's a little bit his face.
	I'm not gonna say it's, I would make a different excuse for another kind of person like it's the Botox, not necessarily an attitude.
	So it does, he does appear that way when, I think sometimes he's also just checking out as well.
	He does have a little bit of RBF, a little bit of resting bitch face.
	He does have a little bit of that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That is a Russell problem.
	I wrote a bookie-wook and now I'm fuckin' sittin' here with this asshole lying about slandering grieving parents.
	I think he's upset, he's like, I'm not talking right now and that's all I wanna do!
	That is infuriating.
	It would be interesting if this just evolved into, and then back and forth.
	Don't spoil the show.
	I'm losing the ability to understand their words very quickly.
	It's going to sound like that to me pretty soon anyways.
	I feel seen!
	To your question though about if the FBI and CIA are involved, if I were Alex and I sincerely believed that, I would be going so hard on it.
	I would be like because proving this and like really holding on to and learning more about this connection would be so validating for all of this shit.
	You know like it would go so far in terms of like making his image better.
	It would go so far in terms of like Making him not look like a big old liar all the time.
	And instead, he just points to a couple of vague data points in a Project Veritas video and he's like, eh, that's good enough.
	I find that to be an admission that he doesn't actually believe that the FBI and CIA are behind this.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	Seems reasonable.
	Seems reasonable.
	And Russell, at least when he's claiming that the CIA and MI5 are out to get him, he at least tries to provide some kind of concrete evidence.
	And he won't shut up about it.
	He gets the gig.
	Whether he believes it or not, I hope he doesn't because he knows what he did.
	He knows what he did.
	But yeah, I think that's a fair point.
	Is he in Florida because he's not allowed back?
	Is he not allowed back into your country?
	Is that a thing?
	A lot of people there were trying to, like, court him into moving there.
	And he was like, well, I don't know if Florida's going to be enough, you know, extradition and all of that.
	And you're like, oh, OK.
	All right.
	Florida has no extradition law.
	I was going to say, with DeSantis in there, I would be surprised if you could get him out of Florida.
	I mean, he's had Ron DeSantis on the show, so you know, they're at least a little bit buddy-buddy.
	But yeah, no, I think he's still got his eyes set on Bali, I think, for his little cult that he wants to set up.
	But he has been talking less about that lately, but yeah, there was a plan to set up a cult in Bali.
	Good!
	Good!
	Talk less about it!
	No way a plan!
	He mentioned it!
	Those are Bali thoughts!
	Mentioned it several times across a few weeks.
	Yeah, he was really going into it, polling the audience.
	They were really, really going for it.
	But yeah, I'm hoping that plan returns at some point, but we'll see what happens legally.
	I think that's going to define what the course of action is for Russell.
	No, he took a workcation but is actually doing work on the vacation, unlike Alex.
	He's not just going to Hawaii and reporting back from a hot tub conversation.
	He's actually doing it.
	Well, because Russell has a real boss, right?
	I mean, he works for Rumble, basically.
	Kind of, yeah.
	I'd say, kind of.
	He's a brand ambassador or something.
	Yeah, a contract for sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He interviewed the Rumble's main guy, Chris Pavlovsky, as well, and that was a fucking snooze, I'm going to be honest.
	I can't believe that.
	Chris Pavlovsky isn't a dynamic interview?
	I mean, he tried to be.
	It was just, it was 45 minutes of, look how great Rumble is, which is exactly what you expect from that scenario.
	Now, the first 20 minutes or so of Alex and Russell's interview amounts to Alex going, wah, they're shutting me down, wah, I'm so dangerous, wah, I didn't kill any children at Sandy.
	I feel that this escalating tension between Western NATO forces and Russia is reaching a critical point.
	Do you, Alex, are we going to see some sort of shift?
	Russell asking a question about the Ukraine war.
	I'm not a Russophile.
	I've never been to Russia, but I've studied it.
	The West, over 10 years ago, overthrew Ukraine, started the war, moved missiles up to their border.
	We put missiles in 61, Nike missiles in Turkey aimed at Russia.
	They put missiles in Cuba.
	That was the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	So this is way beyond the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	And the West is starting a war with Russia as their political pretext to try to divert from all the things they've done domestically.
	So yes, I think we're in the greatest danger we've ever been in, a full thermal nuclear war with the Russians.
	They've got missile cruisers off Florida.
	They've got nuclear submarines that they're showing us.
	They're already there.
	They're showing them to us to try to get the American people to not be part of this.
	He choked on his own bullshit!
	This is a very insane, dangerous moment right now.
	And it's so surreal, Russell, that I have trouble even decoding it.
	I mean, it's just a year ago, a year and a half ago, Biden said,
	we can't send F-16s and tanks to Ukraine.
	That's World War III.
	Well, now it's not just tanks and F-16s.
	It's nuclear weapons at their border and heavy cruise missiles.
	So this is so biblically dangerous and insane that Americans think--
	Americans are great people.
	But we have the lowest number of passports for an industrialized country.
	The average American thinks we're the only thing on the planet.
	They don't get Russia 6,000 miles away, 5,000 miles away, depending on the border.
	And Russia has the biggest nuclear arsenal.
	And we're at war with Russia.
	We are at war with Russia right now.
	And if the average American knew the danger they were in--
	already 8% are against the money to Ukraine, all the rest of those.
	But if they realized the incredible danger they were in, they would back off.
	But they're not backing off.
	So that, to me, is why this is so otherworldly, like a hallucination.
	It's just crazy.
	Uh-huh.
	Um, now, Alex said there that he's not a Russophile, um, but, like Russell, he does appear to want to withdraw all support to Ukraine, thereby allowing Putin to just take over a sovereign country.
	Um, yeah, he's been on RT, right?
	He's been on, like, Russian state media and stuff like that?
	Oh yeah.
	Definitely more, like, in the past.
	There was a period of time where he wasn't on, but he has been, uh, like, uh, uh, fairly, not too long ago.
	I mean, I would say, in a sense, he's not at all a rucifile, because he wouldn't, like, imagine if Russia was like, hey, gay people are fine now.
	You know, he would be against Russia.
	So he's more of just a piece of shit.
	Yeah, that sounds reasonable to me.
	And what are his feelings on Putin, the strongman?
	He's a big boy.
	He's a big, strong boy.
	And he's cool.
	He loves Christianity.
	He's fighting the globalists.
	He's big and strong.
	I'd basically just write an A.I.
	essay about that picture of Putin shirtless on a horse.
	That's what Alex thinks about him.
	Yeah, that's a great description.
	Take that home with you.
	Very strong.
	Very noble.
	Oh, dear.
	Yep, yep.
	That sounds about right.
	Everybody looks better on a horse, though.
	There is that.
	There's such an interesting difficulty that Alex has that I just don't understand how you resolve, and that is that he's like, China is evil, and China sucks, and fuck Jinping and all this, but doesn't deal with the fact that Putin and China are closely allied.
	Big allies, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And now North Korea.
	That seems to be a big difficulty.
	Well, when you can, I mean, reality seems to be the challenge, usually, in my estimation.
	It's like, if you're going on dealing with the reality of it.
	It feels like he had to go back to 61, which I think is impressive, when talking about the Ukraine conflict right now.
	Like, that's...
	I mean, I think to a degree, and I think you've talked about on y'all show a little bit that, like, satanic panic kind of never stopped.
	And I feel that, like, maybe also the Cold War kind of never stopped for a group of people or maybe several groups.
	I don't know.
	But.
	It feels like we're going to keep that going because it seems to be an excellent marketing strategy for extremism.
	Or, or, maybe, maybe, these are all just one of many pieces in what is the ultimate battle between good and evil.
	Oh, that's probably right.
	It's the same fight that's been going on since the very beginning, right?
	Since God created man and then Satan was like, ah, I don't like that, or whatever the legend is.
	What you don't understand is that W. Cleon Skousen was possessed by the devil in order to write his anti-communist books.
	That sounds correct.
	That sounds correct.
	All right.
	All right.
	That's fun.
	Don't check the math, either.
	I only use God's math, my man.
	I agree with you, though.
	I mean, the Cold War never ending, I think, is right on.
	It's just the dynamics are really weird now, and Alex is against the United States.
	Everything's flipped strangely.
	In principle, yeah.
	Oh dear.
	Now next Russell gets to the question of whether the masses would rise up against lockdowns etc in the event of another pandemic and Alex takes things a little bit left field.
	Do you think that we do, as is commonly said, we all live in siloed spaces and there are the people that watch InfoWars and have been watching it for a long time, or the people that watch the other type of media that we're keyed into, and all of those people are like, Oh, another pandemic.
	You ain't getting away with that again.
	Or do you think that there are still a significant number of people, in fact a critical number of people, that will continue to be obedient?
	We're not at a point, are we, where you're going to have the military siding with the people against the government in a country like yours?
	The majority of people in a crisis will still side with the system, but here's the big secret.
	From my intel, depending on what technology it is, the establishment is 20 to 100 years ahead.
	20 to 100 years ahead, they've got cancer cures.
	They've got cloning.
	You might not be the same person, but they can tell you are.
	You'll have some of the same attributes.
	So they've already got godlike power.
	So the establishment is very arrogant right now that has life extension, and it's got all these incredible technologies, and they're like, we can't give 8 billion people this.
	They made the decision with their bunkers, with their operations, that we can survive a nuclear war, and they made the decision to carry this out.
	But if we're aware of the transhumanist operation, if we're aware of their arrogant operation, and if we're aware when their own... because the computers don't run things yet.
	Robots aren't in control.
	They're planning that.
	They're still humans in the decision-making process.
	So when Yuval Noah Harari says the future's not human by 2045 and all this, they mean that.
	But we still, as humans, the only animal that does this, control our own environment.
	So we can withdraw from globalist systems that are funding our own destruction and try to build a future system.
	But the decision's been made.
	If we're just utilitarian, why have 8 billion people?
	Why have 9 billion?
	The decision has been made.
	To get rid of us, we have to say, we're sovereign spiritual beings.
	We have sovereignty.
	We exist and we have a right to live, but you've then got to have a plan.
	You can't just say, I'm going to play Xbox and eat Hot Pockets all day.
	Well, there goes my plan.
	Though we don't actually have Hot Pockets over here, so I'll need to figure that one out.
	Ha!
	Take that!
	Yeah, that's something to feel patriotic about, Jordan.
	You have Hot Pockets.
	So, according to Alex, the globalists are 20 to 100 years ahead, technologically speaking, which seems like too big a gap.
	Like, the difference there, like, that's flip phones to present day, or the invention of the first traffic signal to present day in 1924.
	Like, feels a little bit too broad, you know?
	I've noticed a phenomenon with Alex where whenever there's a number, it's made up.
	Like, it's just kind of what he's feeling, and I love that.
	I mean, it's a manipulative trick, and people should see through it, but it is so fun, especially when there's ranges of numbers.
	It's all just riffing.
	Yeah if if you took like one of those hospital like faces things where it's like how much pain are you in that is also exactly the amount of you know something you know like 70% is how good we're doing that's a smile that's a smile we're at 70% right?
	Oh, we are 25%.
	That's a big frown.
	It has nothing to do with reality.
	It's just a frowny face.
	Jordan, I think you named it.
	It was God Math.
	He's doing God Math.
	He's doing God or Vibes.
	Pick your poison.
	He's doing Vibes Math.
	Speaking of made-up numbers, I'm not sure if I cut the clip or not, but he does keep telling Russell that he has 20 to 30 million listeners a day.
	Conservatively.
	Conservatively, yes.
	But he's not bragging.
	He's not bragging.
	No, no, no.
	He'd never brag.
	Um, yeah.
	Anyway, the globalists have cancer cures and cloning, life extension, and are intending to kill 90% of us apparently.
	Is there a concrete reason as to why they're going to kill all of us?
	I've never been, I don't remember being clear on that one.
	Ah, stuff.
	You know, there's not enough stuff for all of us.
	You know, there's some stuff, but there's not enough.
	So in order to have all the stuff, they gotta get rid of us.
	Makes sense.
	That's when we need to be a little more materialistic about it.
	Whenever you're talking to somebody who maybe doesn't buy into spiritual nonsense, maybe that's what you say.
	But when you really get down to it, when you want to give the big enchilada, The devil told them to.
	Yeah.
	Because the devil needs to terraform the earth in order to make it hospitable to silicon-based life forms that are the demons that live in the fourth dimension that they're trying to conjure into this world.
	That's what the globalists are really about.
	That's why they need to kill you off by tricking you into thinking that climate change is happening, but we really need to burn more fossil fuels.
	So listen, I gotta go, because the bar's gonna close pretty soon.
	Stop selling whiskey at 1030.
	Yeah, I gave you a correct answer.
	He gave you the most correct answer.
	That's kind of at the bottom of it.
	Yeah, it really is.
	And what's crazier about it is that I think it was like a thing that was fake at one point, but now it is real.
	Now it is truly what he believes, and I don't know if he can escape it.
	I think even, because even he is like, I don't actually believe this sometimes, but it...
	But actually I do.
	I do believe it.
	He's slippery.
	People don't hold him responsible for stuff like how many months ago there was supposed to be an Ebola outbreak in Denver and no one gives a shit.
	No one holds him responsible for it.
	You all in the UK were supposed to have Daleks that were going around and giving COVID swabs to people, and if you refused, there was a hatch with a gun that was going to come out.
	No one holds him responsible for any of that stuff, so like, I don't know, five years from now, he could be like, yeah, I wasn't really the devil, or whatever.
	He could just move on, maybe, and no one will care, which will be hilarious.
	Oh, where are my Daleks, Alex?
	Like, I want to live in that reality.
	Oh dear.
	There is also a fun little fact buried in this clip.
	Alex mentioned historian Yuval Noah Harari saying to the World Economic Forum in 2018 that the future of humanity is, you know, within AI, etc.
	how different and how dangerous potentially that's going to be etc. And I'm assuming because he's
	pretty literal minded Alex is taking this literally and thinking humanity is going to be replaced by
	robots. And it's also no great surprise to me that Alex doesn't particularly like an Israeli-born gay
	atheist who speaks at the WEF and is Klaus Schwab's right-hand man according to some.
	Um...
	But in 2018, Russell actually interviewed Yuval Noah Harari for a Penguin event with some schools in the UK.
	Before things broke real far.
	Yes!
	When you've all known Harari as this maybe interesting public intellectual that Russell Brand would want to talk to, as opposed to, I've made my bed, I'm just talking to weirdos now.
	Yes, exactly!
	Funny how they found themselves, right?
	It's an interesting turn.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But back then, anyway, Russell was entirely on board with everything that you all know Harari was saying.
	They got on like a house on fire.
	Wouldn't be surprised if we saw him on Stay Free at some point, to be honest.
	You think he still would be in the realm of...
	Someone who Russell could get away with talking to?
	Maybe, maybe.
	Because they've got that prior connection as well, I think it's possible.
	And you know, like, Russell loves the scary A.I.
	conversations, so there's an inroad there.
	Whether he would because of the W.E.F.
	connotations, I don't know.
	I think no.
	I think Russell's audience would eat him alive.
	Yeah, he would get murdered.
	Unless he murdered Rory.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That would be one of the greatest betrayals anyone could possibly make.
	to his audience at this point right now.
	He's the big bad!
	Yeah, he's the intellectual thinker of the big bad, who is Klaus Schwab.
	Like, Luke can't sit down and be like, okay, we're just gonna have a talk with the emperor today.
	Like, no, that can't happen.
	Yeah.
	Russell doesn't talk about him that much, so, you know, I think his audience would almost be more aware than he would, in a way.
	Which usually works in his favor.
	I feel like Russell kind of only acknowledges his audience, and then he can, like, Pretend he cares but then like make fun of them individually and what they say like they're mostly just like a kind of we don't I mean we don't cover that much of his like his his local channel and stuff on the show compared to his main show but from what I've seen he
	like, appears complimentary, but just takes pot shots at his audience all the time.
	And so I think maybe when they react poorly, he'll be like, he can just tell everybody to
	calm down and then dismiss them and be a little rude. And that works out fine. I don't think
	that he is affected in the same way that Alex is. - That's interesting. That is a very different
	But I guess Alex probably couldn't get away with floating a Bali cult.
	So, you know, they have different relationships with their audiences.
	Russell was actually a movie star.
	That's a person that doesn't need to give a single shit about what anyone thinks.
	Whereas Alex has been in this kind of crowdfunding, crowdsourcing space for a long time.
	And I think that's also why Russell can just have, like, while Alex was talking, and I'm kind of used to this by now, but just, I could just see Russell having his spirit leaving his body and just not giving a shit about anything.
	I was in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
	This guy pretends he was supposed to be Star-Lord.
	We are not the same.
	This is fucking different.
	Yeah, you know, that is a thing, you know?
	That makes me think about what we need to do after our show.
	I think we should start a Bali cult.
	Yeah.
	We've been in the Midwest for too long.
	It's cold.
	You prefer islands.
	I prefer islands.
	It's true.
	Climate change is going to kill all of us anyways.
	Might as well get there first.
	All right.
	I like it.
	I think it's the way to go.
	I'm in.
	Yeah.
	Done.
	I'll bring the cat.
	I didn't expect being sold on the Bali cult idea today, but where else are you going to go?
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	We've got an election coming up here and Nigel Farage is doing very well.
	So you know what?
	Bali's looking good.
	That's all I'm gonna say.
	Didn't Farage get into the gin game?
	I thought he left politics for gin.
	He started selling gin and everyone got mad at him.
	He started selling gin and he became a broadcaster on GB News.
	Gin-based news.
	Gin-based news.
	Yeah, except now he's back in front line politics.
	Still clear, guys.
	Still clear.
	Still clear, still botanical.
	We've got it.
	We've got it.
	Yeah, his party in some places in the UK are polling just as well as the Conservatives, which is in some places better, which is worrying.
	Nationally, they're polling just as well.
	And so we're going to have this weird scenario.
	Labour are going to landslide the whole thing and then there's going to be a reform party that's about as big as the Conservatives with Nigel Farage at the head, potentially.
	And I'm like, this is alarming.
	We've been kind of keeping, I've been keeping tabs on it more than I think I ever have, I have a reason to, which is kind of fun.
	And so the, there's a lot of rhyming with 2016 that I'm noticing.
	A nice little pit in my stomach when I hear about it.
	I'm all for it.
	I'm all for it.
	And I hope all of you tear each other apart.
	Because the worse you guys get, the more likely Northern Ireland is to be like, fuck off, we're finally free.
	So I'm very invested in Irish freedom and British collapse.
	I'm fine with that.
	Y'all fucked us in the 1880 and I'm done.
	I'm done.
	You fucked America in 1770.
	You fucked Ireland in 1880.
	I want all y'all to sink.
	I'm in Wales.
	We got fucked before Scotland and before Ireland.
	That's fair.
	That is fair.
	I'm all for Welsh independence as well.
	But you are right.
	The potential for the whole thing to just cascade and everyone to be like, nope, fuck this, I'm out.
	It's a possibility.
	I think it'll be, it's finally time.
	It's finally time for the British to become people who just hate the English and the English can go away.
	I mean, if you look at kind of like, it comes out a lot in rugby, but generally the Scots and the Irish and the Welsh will band together in hatred of the English pretty uniformly.
	I'm saying, I don't think it's the worst plan.
	Yeah, yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	Oh dear.
	Though there is a problem that a bunch of people in my country of Wales do quite like Nigel Farage and are voting for reform and there is a possibility that I am going to have a reform MP in my constituency which, not pleased.
	Not pleased at all.
	So that kind of makes things tricky.
	Still.
	Still.
	Right, let's move on and we'll get to the subject of Alex and indeed Russell potentially being controlled opposition.
	How do you interface with conversations that are within the ordinary political paradigm when truly, surely, it must truly, based on what you've just said, real power is out of sight.
	Real power is concealed.
	Real power does not allow us to discuss it.
	And if you can just ditch into that somehow, Alex, the ongoing accusation that not only you might be controlled opposition, or I'm controlled opposition, That even a figure like Elon Musk, due to his various billion dollar contracts through SpaceX or Tesla or whatever it is, can't truly be the renegade that many of us believe him to be.
	How do you map that?
	How do you map the fact that people do have relationships within the system?
	Why did they make the decision not to wipe out Joe Rogan?
	Was he just too valuable to Spotify?
	So there's a few things in there, and I know you can talk, man.
	So I'm talking about concealed power.
	What is it like?
	Who's operating?
	Who's pulling the strings of this concealed power?
	Can we trust Musk?
	Why didn't they destroy Rogan?
	Oh, no, that's the best question ever.
	I can't wait.
	I know this is on your show, but I'm definitely going to air this on my show, Russell.
	Look, the biggest problem we have Is not believing we're powerful.
	So there's evil, there's controllers, there's bad groups, but someone watching and listening knows who they are.
	They want freedom.
	They want liberty.
	They love people.
	They love art.
	They love culture.
	They love, they love this.
	Well, you know, you're not controlled.
	So MoodPass is Russell Brand good, or is David Icke good, or is Elon Musk good, or is Joe Rogan good, or is, or is, Let's move past that excuse.
	What are you going to do?
	Because I know, I see through a rose colored darkly, as the Bible says.
	I have distortions.
	I'm not perfect, but I love my wife.
	I love my children.
	I love everything.
	I'm a lover, not a fighter, but I'll fight if I have to.
	So the idea that nobody's real, Is really an extension of failure and saying to yourself, no one else is good.
	It's hopelessness.
	The truth is, most people are overall good.
	They're not perfect, but if they have leadership, they're good.
	So the idea that, oh, Alex Jones and Russell Brand are fakes, well, you just said to yourself, you're not real.
	So my response, I've been on there 30 years, I stopped responding a decade ago to people that say I'm this or that.
	What I've done is on record.
	I mean, that's true.
	He is on record.
	And did Alex stop responding to his critics?
	Because look, my memory is legendarily poor.
	But yeah, I seem to recall a few entire three-hour broadcasts responding to people giving him shit on Twitter.
	Yeah, he's very thick-skinned now.
	That's definitely true.
	I mean, maybe he doesn't respond to as much.
	I think he played around with stuff about people saying he was like Bill Hicks and shit in the past.
	Maybe he stopped doing that.
	And I guess there's less controlled opposition conversations than there used to.
	That used to be a pretty big accusation that got levied at Alex, but I think it's less now.
	I mean it feels like these guys have destroyed the idea of controlled opposition because they're obviously totally off the rails.
	Why is that even a thing anymore?
	Like I just don't even... You know?
	You guys are fucking with people.
	That's what you're doing.
	You're not controlled opposition.
	You are playing a game.
	That's different.
	It's not at the behest of power.
	It's like, yes, Elon Musk can sort of be a little bit of a renegade, but he's also a shithead.
	And he's playing up those renegade aspects in order to get the things that he wants from you, his target audience.
	That's the same thing that Alex and Russell do.
	It's not controlled opposition.
	It's not renegade.
	It's not anything.
	You're scamming, you're scamming.
	Yeah, it's jingling keys so you don't get mad that I'm billions of dollars.
	It's just, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
	My brand is that I'm not this.
	I'm not a controlled opposition.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	There is an important thing to note at the start of this clip.
	Alex wants to air this interview on his show, which I'm going to assume would break any sort of kind of exclusivity situation they had going on with the two interviews.
	Like, that's generally the idea, isn't it?
	You know, one will be over here, one will be over there, and we'll kind of cross-pollinate with our audiences.
	That's supposed to be the idea with these.
	But yeah, it comes back up in just a little bit.
	But first, because he's so thick-skinned, Alex is not yet finished responding to his critics.
	Stop using the excuse of Russell Brand's not for real, Elon Musk isn't for real.
	I mean, take Elon Musk.
	It's not about kissing his ass because I'm on X. He's devastating them every day with hundreds of millions of views with transgenderism and open borders and world government and carbon taxes and depopulation and replacement migration.
	You can't argue with energy to energy.
	It's a mathematical equation.
	He's literally devastating them.
	Devastating them.
	And I'm supposed to sit back and go, I'm a Pharisee to Christ.
	You know what?
	You're not perfect.
	You're going to hell.
	I'm literally supposed to sit back and watch devastation of the enemy.
	Like they are shitting their pants and go, I could have done it better.
	Great.
	Get on the field.
	Show us what you'll do.
	Stop complaining that Russell Brand's bad or Alex Jones, because we're honest about who we are.
	You know, like, oh, Alex Jones has been with hundreds of women.
	Russell Brand, thousands.
	I don't trust them.
	Then Saul of Tarsus is hit by a lightning bolt and you say, well, I don't want to listen to him.
	He was bad.
	No, God comes to the people.
	That have been in those positions because they know the groundwork.
	And so I don't want any excuses.
	Let's say Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Donald Trump are the devil.
	Let's say Tucker Carlson's as bad as it gets.
	Great.
	Stop bitching.
	Show me what you can do instead of claiming everything is controlled.
	Because I see Russell was where I was at 20 years ago, a good open person trying to lovingly help people who's broken out of his cocoon, is a powerful spirit.
	And people are like, oh, you're not real.
	We don't get it.
	Russell, I would even respond to those people.
	Let's see what they can do, because we are literally trying to stop World War III.
	We're literally trying to stop election fraud.
	We're trying to turn our energy back on, which the left is literally turning off agriculture, fertilizer, energy, water.
	I mean, I'm like, hey, I'm trying to keep your water on, folks.
	I've got kids.
	I know what this is going to look like in a Road Warrior scenario.
	These globalists are a satanic death cult, so if you don't join us, You're with the devil.
	In fact, I'll give them what they want to hear.
	You say I'm with the devil?
	No.
	Those of you saying there's no hope.
	Those of you saying Christ isn't real.
	Those of you saying God didn't call us to victory.
	Those of you saying that we're given a spirit of overcoming and victory, not of weakness.
	When the enemy comes like a flood, the spirit of the Lord lifts up a standard against it.
	You are the Satanists.
	I love Jesus Christ.
	I want human victory throughout the stars.
	And any of you saying that I've served Satan We are servants of Satan and I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ!
	Alex Jones everyone!
	Alex Jones doing pure Alex Jones!
	Alex Jones doing his shtick!
	Yeah, exactly that.
	I would be mad if I heard that.
	That was not a thing you should say to another human being's face.
	Look at you, you parody of your fucking self!
	Yeah, this is what we wanted!
	This is what we wanted!
	Give us best food, you ugly fuck!
	Jesus Christ!
	Yuck.
	Yuck, yuck, yuck.
	Cram it down your gullet!
	So we were talking about the exclusive deal potentially with Rumble, and I wrote down, as soon as you said that before the clip, Alex would cut a commercial in the middle of this interview and take that clip.
	I'm positive.
	And instead, he did that like, he does that kind of ramping up trying to do a viral moment.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's not not a commercial.
	He essentially said, I'll give them what they want before cutting like a Christ themed wrestling promo.
	That's what he did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm saying like, my prediction.
	It's not not a commercial.
	No, no.
	You'll get at least half credit for that.
	See, here's another thing, Dan.
	I'll take a half.
	Dan, this is another thing.
	Look, we both grew up in this religious environment.
	I could do that shit way better.
	I could be a doomsday preacher in a heartbeat.
	I lived that shit, you know what I'm saying?
	You write my stuff, I'll whip people into a frenzy, we'll move to Bali, and then we'll take over all the islands.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	This could work.
	This could work.
	See what I'm saying?
	This podcast appearance has had unintended consequences.
	I'm worried that if you can be so successful, you're in for getting Sarah Marshall and then become this.
	We've got so little depth to fall, man.
	That clip though, I have two thoughts.
	When I was listening to that clip.
	First is that Alex's entire career is based on purity tests.
	Yeah.
	His entire career in political ideology is based on no one is as good as Rand Paul and Ron Paul and all this shit.
	So this whole like, oh yeah, Gotta take good enough!
	You know, like, go fuck yourself.
	That is antithetical to everything you believe and everything you've stood for.
	Second, Alex is saying, what can you do?
	You think that Russell Brand and Alex Jones aren't any good?
	What can you do?
	I'll tell you what I can do compared to Russell Brand, and that is put on a shirt.
	Because he needs to stop it with this completely unbuttoned chest, wide open shirt thing.
	Yeah.
	He's doing a show.
	He's just making up shirts for Dan.
	It is.
	It's too relaxed.
	Too relaxed.
	It's too relaxed.
	Cover up!
	You're talking about the devil.
	Yeah, and he unbuttons his shirt to his own belly button.
	Yeah.
	Stop it.
	Yeah.
	You can't dress like you would be nice.
	Did we just eat Thanksgiving dinner, or am I talking about the devil?
	I don't know, but I'm shirtless and rubbing my belly.
	Me taking you seriously when you're talking about how the intelligence services of the world want to stop you from talking about the devil, that is a big ask.
	They can't even get you to button your shirt.
	When you make that big ask with your shirt unbuttoned all the way, I'm tuned out.
	I'm checked out.
	It's never going to happen.
	You know what?
	I respect that policy.
	That is fair.
	So we're going to take a little diversion because from here, Russell cuts to an ad which we're going to take a quick
	look at.
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	Okay.
	Now, variety of big medical claims in that one.
	And unlike most of Russell's advertised products, this one is available in the UK as well.
	That was going to be my question!
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	A little bit more expensive.
	It's £30 over here for 30 capsules of 500 milligrams, that is.
	And yeah, but it is just fish oil, pretty much.
	So like, yeah, they can sell it over here, unlike a bunch of the other things that Russell advertises.
	Um, so let's, let's tackle the claims in order.
	So, does ibuprofen cause blood clots, strokes, and kidney failure?
	Well, technically?
	Technically, yes.
	Like, if taken at a high enough dosage for a long enough period of time.
	You lost.
	Here's what you people don't get.
	Here's what you people don't fucking get.
	With all your debunking bullshit, fuck off.
	You lost.
	You just lost.
	Because you started with your correct.
	So you lose.
	Alright, I've already stopped listening.
	Let's be fair, there was the caveat of large enough dose.
	Totally, yeah, but that's fine.
	You say that all the way at the very end.
	Unfortunately, you started with, technically, I am wrong, so you've wasted my time.
	Did you know that water can kill you?
	Exactly!
	Here's the thing, did you know water can kill you?
	That's a stupid thing to say, but if somebody goes, well technically, then you fucking waste my time!
	Don't start with a clause that debases your following fucking shit!
	Sorry.
	If you want to really nail it, you call it hydrogen dioxide and then it sounds real fucking terrifying.
	Alex has done that.
	He's gone and like done surveys on the street and asking people if they should ban hydrogen dioxide.
	Right.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, how dumb.
	The thing I'm really interested in always and that we noticed as a trend that you don't really get with InfoWars is like the amount of ads and brand partnerships that Russell has that you cannot
	buy in the UK.
	You can only buy it in America.
	And I am fascinated by like, oh, that's that to me is obvious because like,
	that's what the numbers are for the advertisers.
	That's like a concrete fact we can understand.
	It's like what they're showing their advertisers as to where his exposure is.
	So that's really interesting to me in a way that we're not really going to get with like, because in America, you can just say anything and you bring... I mean, Jordan's right.
	Them's is American rules for media of any kind.
	Yeah, which is interesting.
	It is more interesting that I can get this one over here because that is unusual for these things.
	But yeah, high enough dosage, long enough period of time, technically ibuprofen can kill you.
	Which is, like, doctors by and large don't prescribe ibuprofen in high doses for long periods for exactly this reason.
	You know, we're talking years there rather than months or weeks.
	Is it dangerous for the elderly?
	Not especially.
	But the elderly population are more likely to have worn out their kidneys over a lifetime of use, so doctors are generally advised to be mindful of the dosage when prescribing ibuprofen to the elderly population.
	Is ibuprofen ineffective?
	No.
	It's a pretty effective anti-inflammatory painkiller, which is why medical professionals still prescribe it.
	One thing he did get right here, however, is that ibuprofen is extremely dangerous to dogs.
	I'll give him that one.
	That will poison them.
	Just in case anyone needed to hear that.
	Human medicine, not the same as dog medicine.
	Now, onto the fish oil supplements.
	So firstly, is fish oil a painkiller?
	No, definitely not.
	So that's already a thing ibuprofen can do.
	But what about krill?
	It kills them!
	Well, well, well... Yes.
	Here's the problem with that.
	What is pain?
	What is killing?
	Killing?
	Pain-killing?
	Aren't we always killing pain when we don't feel it?
	Pain is the feeling of weakness leaving the body.
	Right.
	I hadn't considered that.
	And weakness comes back into your body if you have fish oil, and so therefore it does kill pain.
	Ooh.
	I don't know.
	These are undeniable truths.
	They never said when the pain would be killed.
	It just said that it would happen.
	There's a lot of wiggle room here.
	True, true.
	It's years, it's decades, but you need to start now.
	That's how this works.
	So, secondly, do fish oil supplements and omega-3 fatty acids reduce inflammation?
	The answer appears to be no.
	This is still a much-studied field, but in a 2019 study from Kostenbarter et al., undertaken at Brigham Women's Hospital in Boston, One and a half thousand older Americans were studied over a year-long period as to the effects of both fish oil supplements and vitamin D supplements.
	And Karen Costanbada said, quote, Vitamin D and marine omega-3 fatty acids are widely consumed supplements advertised to prevent disease and reduce systemic inflation.
	Their purported health benefits have received enormous attention in the medical and popular presses.
	However, in this study, neither vitamin D nor fish oil supplements reduced systemic inflammation biomarkers over one year.
	Thus, it is unlikely that these supplements, taken widely in the general population, have major anti-inflammatory effects.
	So it appears that fish oil doesn't generally actually reduce inflammation either.
	So it can't reduce inflammation, doesn't help with pain, which are the two main things that ibuprofen does.
	So when you come to the final question of should you be taking fish oil supplements instead of ibuprofen, my answer would be no!
	Probably not!
	Seems like a bad idea.
	Especially at the price of one British pound per 500 milligram capsule of the stuff.
	And I did check, and the regular capsules over here amount to six pence per capsule.
	And the best part of this is that these native PATH fish oil supplements claim to have a higher proportion of what is called EPA in them than usual.
	Which is one of the two components of fish oil, along with DHA.
	More EPA than usual is supposed to be good for reasons they never explain.
	Either way, it's supposed to be EPA and DHA doing the work in the body, right?
	Now, the native PATH ones contain 80mg of EPA and DHA combined, whereas the cheap 6P capsules contain 150mg of
	EPA and DHA combined, nearly double.
	So not only are the native PATH capsules 17 times the price, it's actually a worse product!
	Just terrific.
	That's how they can afford a new Russell.
	Yeah.
	They do a worse job.
	I'm assuming it's all marketing.
	That's entirely their whole thing.
	It's a worse product for more money.
	It's great.
	It's interesting because Alex sells krill oil too.
	So he's working Alex's side of the street here a little bit.
	But I've never heard, at least I don't remember it being a frequent thing that Alex would say it's a good painkiller.
	That's a weird uh he usually just says like this stuff's good it'll give you the fish burps you know like that's that's what he usually says i've never sold as a like replacement for ibuprofen or that's weird that's Yeah, it's a strange angle for it.
	Definitely a weird angle.
	I would have taken less offense had it just been like, it's good for you, but... I like it.
	I like it because it suggests that the Native Path people were like trying to think outside the box.
	You know, like, who's not gonna come after us if we claim that we can do their shit?
	And ibuprofen, like, nobody even knows if that's real.
	Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
	Nobody knows.
	You've got Don Draper in a boardroom and he's pointing to a sign, the ibuprofen people are weak.
	They will never come after us.
	They're not coming after us.
	Nobody's sending a cease and desist from ibuprofen.
	It's their crusade against big ibuprofen is what's happening.
	Yeah, I like it.
	You pick somebody who's not going to fight back.
	It's smart.
	Right.
	Like whales.
	Who we all immediately thought of sick, like famously sick whales as soon as he said that.
	Like we all, that, pick another, nope, don't say that.
	When, listen, when whales were at their height, you know what we did?
	We used them for candles.
	So screw whales.
	Trained them for oil, right?
	There's a lot of associations you have with whales.
	Like blubber, singing.
	Being in shape isn't one of them.
	No.
	You've never seen a whale with, like, a muscly fin.
	That'd be a great tattoo.
	I mean... Oh, I'm thinking of street sharks, not a whale.
	Yes, yeah, me too.
	Oh, street sharks.
	Yeah, I went to street sharks immediately.
	I remember street sharks.
	Oh, I missed that show.
	Oh dear.
	Anyway, let's get back to Alex.
	And in case anyone forgot, he just finished a little performative rant and now Russell is going to ask one of his trademark five questions in a question.
	When did you start doing stuff like that, Alex?
	When did you start doing that?
	There must have been a phase where, because I would like, you know, I've seen you talk about it elsewhere, where you were turning up at sort of anti-George Bush rallies.
	Did you always have that?
	Because that's what we just witnessed there was...
	That's Alex Jones.
	That's the Alex Jones molecule playing out.
	Have you always had the ability to do that?
	Did you do that stuff at school?
	Do you think it's as a result of that football injury?
	How do you feel when you see the compilations of the kind of like, a frog ski and that song?
	Have you seen that photo?
	I'm angry.
	I've had enough of these people.
	Have you seen that thing?
	Like, when is it that you realised you had this I think we're about to win.
	ability and do you ever worry that that channeling ability it has in it is vulnerable it's very
	alive it's very beautiful it's very powerful but it exposes you to stuff huh have you always
	done that mate?
	No it's Russell you really want to know?
	Yeah.
	I mean no I under the 60s 70s and 80s and to the 90s everything was human human intelligence
	and so nothing was digital then it was all about how big your human armies were and so
	A bunch of my family, people go, Oh God, he admits his family's in this.
	No, they all told me it was bad.
	When I was a little kid, they did all this stuff and, and then told me the government was evil.
	So I learned this from family that was involved, not in like pencil pushing or not involved.
	That's why they're so scared.
	Cause they know about the MO, my family, my whole family was not like the pencil pusher types.
	They were all murderers!
	My family told me all this and they got out of it because they were like fighting Russians in Latin America and East Germany and like all this stuff and they told me all this and so that's why I knew all this stuff and understood it was because my uncle you know and other people too just told me how this how the cow ate the cabbage and so I knew very young without even they never pushed me to be on air they never said go do a show I would just listen around the corner to them.
	I would hear what they were doing and they were so worried about America.
	And then, and so I was blessed to be around people that were like the
	knife's edge of the Pentagon. And so people go, Oh God, you're said you're part
	of them. No, it's the difference.
	It was like these were real people that were doing insane stuff
	to fight the Russians and others. And then they figured out, Oh my God,
	this is all evil.
	So I was really blessed because I was early on around that.
	And so that's just to go back full circle, like, Oh, your work for them. No,
	my family worked for them and rebelled against them and stood up against them.
	And so that's why this is, that's why they're so upset. So.
	Okay.
	So I mean Alex has made some pretty wild claims about his family over the years including his dad being a CIA dentist who was also the smartest boy in Texas and here he seems to be claiming his family and specifically his uncle were part of the DoD and were also fighting Russians in Latin America and East Germany but then rebelled against the DoD when they realized it was evil and that is why they're all so upset with Alex in modern day apparently.
	Yeah, Buckley's dad.
	Buckley's dad was in Guatemala and he saw some shit.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Sometimes I think, like, can you imagine the idea of not having a very interesting story about something, so instead of responding with a long, long thing, you just go, Uh, you know, it's been a while.
	Been a ways back.
	You know?
	Like, you can't just say that on TV or whatever.
	What was I gonna say?
	Oh, way back.
	The third week of my fourth grade.
	Way back when I was a kid.
	Next question.
	Yeah.
	I read some GPS books and I got weird.
	Right.
	Not as satisfying an answer as this nonsense.
	I broke out a pen and I was trying to track this question.
	Yeah.
	So I'm guessing, so the last clip that we heard was Alex doing his performance.
	And so when it started, I thought that that's what Russell was asking him about.
	Like your ability to flip a switch and turn on and just perform.
	Yeah, fake lying monkey dancer.
	But as it went on, it seemed to more be about like channeling information from the universe is the gift that he was asking about.
	And so the questions I identified were, when did you start doing this?
	Early.
	Have you always done it?
	Way back.
	Is this because of brain damage?
	Yes.
	How do you feel about memes?
	Not great.
	And are you too vulnerable because of memes?
	Yes, 100%.
	It seemed to be like, that's a lot.
	Also, I like that he threw in the, is this because you have a head injury?
	I do like that.
	That was really nice of him.
	Oh, Russell's extremely shady.
	Extremely shady.
	He can be very queen-y at times.
	He loves to throw shade.
	I hate it when I enjoy it.
	Oh, that's a usage of shady.
	Shady, to me, is he's an untrustworthy character.
	Oh, he's both guns, right?
	That's fascinating.
	Paris is burning.
	This is interesting new slang that I'm learning.
	Shade comes from reading.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a more fun, I feel.
	Yeah, can you, I mean, can you imagine not knowing Alex lore, which I don't think that Russell does.
	No.
	So Russell's gonna go into Russell mode, which is like kind of picking and choosing.
	Yeah, he manages to like, Do a sly dig in ways that... He may not even know that that is something Alex has talked about.
	Him having a head injury when he was younger.
	Yeah, probably not.
	Being stuck under a fumigated house.
	All of this stuff.
	I don't know.
	It is, in context, a really shady line.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He is good for that.
	Nice usage.
	I'm trying.
	Trying to be cool with my slang.
	I know, you gotta get there.
	You gotta get that down.
	You got the shirt, you got the shirt.
	We got blouse, we got, oh, pre.
	Chemise.
	Yeah, we got chemise.
	Chemise, yes.
	Throwing down.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	CULTURAL EXCHANGE!
	ALICE Russell definitely skimmed the Wikipedia page here, I think that's what we're feeling the results of.
	His research is not great.
	Though, y'know, I mean, he's interviewed Alex before, he was on InfoWars back in when, 2013, I think?
	LIAM Yeah, way back.
	ALICE Yeah, back when he was on, like, the whole revolution tip.
	He was particularly insufferable in that interview, from what I recall.
	As opposed to now.
	He's great.
	I don't know.
	He was more self-righteous somehow.
	In the bookie walk era?
	What?
	This was after the revolution book in 2013 and you know with him essentially pretending to be Che Guevara you know for however long you know which yeah honestly honestly very very annoying which is why despite a lot of left people in the UK agreeing with him on the broader points a lot of people still found him very annoying and so it's like nah fuck this guy.
	Yeah, if I was going to pick somebody to be Russell Brand, it would be Jason Segel from Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because I'm assuming it's Forgetting Sarah Marshall's fault that we are here.
	And get him to the Greek.
	Yeah, get him to the Greek.
	So we could have had Jonah Hill or Jason Segel in this role, and that would have been better.
	They wouldn't talk as fast.
	Jonah Hill might be close, right?
	He sucks.
	Does he suck?
	Who knows?
	I think they all suck, right?
	Why not?
	Who cares?
	Yeah, they're too rich and white.
	They probably suck.
	That'll happen.
	I think it's a reasonable position to take.
	Okay, I would also, just a small point of fact, I would also like to point out that from the 50s onwards, like, he said that everything's about, like, the size of the army, but, you know, the US military especially has been using computers since the late 50s, you know, for military intelligence and that side of things, so, you know, like, it wasn't all just humans, and that seems pretty obviously true, but who am I to argue with a man who's read hundreds of history books, you know?
	So many, so many books.
	I can clarify a little bit of what he means, because he does this kind of rant a lot.
	What he means is spying.
	He's talking about, like, the shift from human spies to, like, surveillance.
	Going through somebody's trash can.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so his family was around when you needed humans to do that kind of stuff, instead of all the cameras being everywhere and the internet.
	But, I mean, he's still wrong, but... That's another CIA slash FBI thread that if Alex were capable of following and fleshing out, that'd be really interesting.
	That would add to the current lore.
	If his uncle was digging around in Latin American trash cans.
	That feels like a big if, that's all I'm gonna say to that.
	Oh dear.
	Now, I mentioned that Alex wanted to rebroadcast this interview on Band or Video, and this comes back up, and well, here it is.
	And for those listening, rather than watching, Russell will in a moment hold up a Bible and then a book by Bill Hicks.
	That's the truth.
	And nobody tells me what to do.
	I just try to tell the truth.
	But Russell, I love you and I love your show.
	I know it's your show, but I'm going to air this on my own show tomorrow.
	Give me permission.
	How do people find what you're doing?
	Don't hijack my actual show during the middle of the show.
	It's not even the end of it.
	I'll ask you a question.
	You can just stop talking.
	I'll go for two hours.
	I'll do another question.
	I don't want to tell you.
	You want to hear the real stuff?
	Yeah.
	You want to hear the real stuff?
	It's insane.
	It is beyond insane.
	Go on.
	This is like... Oh my God.
	We're ready.
	I mean... Let me hold on to this first.
	I don't think I should say this stuff on air.
	It may be this.
	I would just say that like...
	Yeah.
	Bill Hicks.
	Bill Hicks was a great comedian.
	A lot better looking than me.
	I'm not Bill Hicks.
	Jesus Christ.
	What's he like, 70 years old now?
	Hit me the real stuff.
	Hit us with the real stuff.
	Oh, he's so annoying.
	Bees are dying.
	It's really bad.
	But let's just say my family is against the system.
	About 1988 it turns against it and we've been fighting them ever since.
	So we're their own worst nightmare because my family is 100% behind America and they are fighting for the future of humanity.
	And that's why they're so freaked out and pissed off because of that.
	Yeah, he's got nothing.
	He's got nothing.
	It's bad.
	It's bad.
	It's really bad.
	I don't know what happened, but he's got some red eyes going now.
	There has been a little bit of a shift, and Alex is either working up some tears, or Whiskey's coming through it.
	Yeah.
	He's notably bloodshot.
	There is a little bit of a tonal shift from here on out, I've got to say.
	Yeah, so what just happened there?
	You know, Alex wanted to rebroadcast this interview, thereby ensuring his listeners won't bother going to Russell's rumble to find it.
	Russell essentially kind of told him to fuck off, but Alex, you know, maintained face and not break kayfabe and everything, so he upped the ante with, oh, you want to know the real stuff, Russell?
	Yeah, I want to know the real stuff, and nothing.
	Just, oh.
	Shit.
	I did not think this through.
	This is something that Jordan brought up recently that I think is a really good point.
	That is, like, these dudes just know power struggle.
	They know the, like, interpersonal dynamics of trying to, like, I'm stronger than you in this moment.
	They're really good at that.
	It's so weird.
	It's so weird because it's something that I don't ever think about.
	Ever.
	Like it just never occurred to me to be like zeroed in on like, am I the alpha in this scenario right now?
	It's like it's it's literally the opposite of like how nice people want to interact with each like just people in the world want to interact with each other it is it's and again like I was talking about before we started recording like I was I was postulating that I wonder what the power challenge is going to be with these two people because their styles are very different.
	And I was really looking forward to see who was going to break first, and who was going to get mad, and who was going to get annoyed.
	And we have it.
	And there's something a little refreshing about Russell being like, you didn't give me the goods.
	That wasn't good enough.
	Yeah.
	I wasn't forgetting Sarah Marshall.
	Give me the real stuff.
	That is me.
	I could get Jason Segel in here in a fucking heartbeat.
	I mean, maybe not these days.
	He would have been able to.
	Who was in, forgetting Sarah Marshall, was it Kristen Bell?
	Yes, Kristen Bell, Jason Segel, Nila Kunis.
	What a cast, what a cast.
	Jonah Hill was actually in that one as well, playing a different character.
	So yeah, what a cast indeed.
	Jason Segel works with the Muppets now, he doesn't need any of this.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's true.
	That is very true.
	I don't think he would rush to Russell's rescue these days.
	Not at all.
	Mercifully, Russell leaps to Alex's rescue now with a question because he can see him floundering.
	You know, he's like, I've made my point.
	I think I'll save you.
	But Alex then insists on bringing the real stuff to the table and again we go a little bit of a left turn.
	Well, you're saying that this is historic, Alex.
	This precedes even you being in the public eye, because when you were talking about that just then, I was thinking the stuff that you do didn't exist prior to you doing it.
	There was David Icke, but this is pre-internet stuff.
	Right at the advent of the internet, you create this channel and create this movement along with one or two notable others.
	If it were like hip hop, you're right there at the African Bamba moment.
	Yeah, nobody told me what to do.
	None of it was like outside groups.
	Alex Jones, the Afrika Bambaataa.
	I just like, you know, I mean, I grew up hearing this stuff when I was a little kid about like, yeah, we've got to, we've got to, whatever the term was, like, we're sending a man to talk to the aliens and we've got them in, you know, in drips and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're communicating with them.
	We've got to, like, I literally was sat there and I was like, Six years old, my mom and her friend that ran the Psychedelic Institute in San Francisco for the CIA, and I'm in the back of the Volkswagen driving up to Arkansas, and my mother's sitting there in the front talking about, well, we're trying to communicate with the aliens, and we're mapping the future.
	We put the astronauts, they called them like astronauts, they had another term.
	We put them into this thing and we communicate with them on DMT.
	So I'm like six years old, like sitting in the back of the car, listening to this.
	And that was people my mom knew.
	And then it was just like, it kind of goes from there.
	But I mean, this is how real this stuff is, man.
	Like they're literally taking, remember I went with Joe Rogan like six, seven years ago.
	That is exactly how real this stuff is.
	And they're doing all this.
	And like a month later, two months later, Joe has a guest on, a professor going, we have DMT trips.
	DMT drips the first time they said that so I heard my mom this lady that ran the operation in the car talking about I'm hearing about all this and so instead of like taking DMT and like uncontrolled deal they're giving him drips into their intervening so he'd been there for like a day to communicate with these these entities so I was like growing up hearing this kind of stuff but it's part of the course Which course is it par for?
	All of my cousins were heavy pranksters.
	That was interesting.
	Are we talking about Operation Midnight Climax?
	Is Sidney Gottlieb entered the chat?
	The Poisoner-in-Chief?
	Is that what we're doing?
	Is that his mom?
	Mom's friend!
	So my mom's friend was dosing me when I was six years old.
	I'm sorry, is it?
	Oh!
	Oh!
	My mom's friend was dosing me when I was six and I started a show right around the dawn of the internet and surprise, here we are.
	What?
	Yeah, so Alex's mom's friend ran the Psychedelic Institute in San Francisco for the CIA, and his mom was talking about how they were trying to use DMT to communicate with aliens.
	Or demons.
	Possibly demons.
	Yeah, he tends to conflate the two things.
	They're the same.
	To him, very much.
	This isn't a new Alex Jones theory.
	In fact, it seems to be fairly vintage, going back to at least 2011, so far as I can find.
	Possibly earlier.
	Alex mentioned DMT on one of his Rogan appearances, and the other person Alex is referencing who went on Rogan and spoke about DMT drips, the Professor, is the very reputable bullshit artist Graham Hancock.
	Though context here is important.
	Hancock was talking about someone he knew wanting to study DMT and keeping volunteers in a study on a DMT drip for those purposes, not to contact alien demons.
	And wanting to do that, not, we have been doing this since you were a child, Alex Jones.
	Yes, exactly.
	You were in the back of my car.
	My eyes aren't like they would just admit that.
	My eyewitness account from when I was six and my mom's friend is the fakest reference to a real thing that I've ever heard.
	That's the grade of a lot of Alex's citations though.
	You find that a lot.
	Weird family friends and fake lieutenant colonels and shit.
	Yeah, he's the best connected man in America by this point, really.
	If you diagram a lot of his sentences and then reduce it down, you get most of his stuff is like, my dad could beat up your dad, and my dad's friend knows a guy.
	Yep.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Also, I don't know a lot about DMT, but does it work like that?
	Can you just constantly take it and stay in a state of DMT?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if, because I know it's, you know, it's a psychedelic and all of that, and a hallucinogen, but yeah, I don't know whether, because like there are, as far as I'm aware, there are chemicals in your brain that will kind of deplete over time, you know, because you're using stuff more than usual.
	So I don't know whether that's possible.
	Because DMT is like a pretty quick thing, and then ayahuasca you can take and it lasts a lot longer, like in a different form.
	I don't know.
	I just don't even know if this is pharmacologically feasible, is what I'm saying.
	I don't know.
	From what Graham Hancock was saying, his friend at the University in Kyoto, I think.
	He's got a friend too?
	Graham Hancock has a friend who wanted to study at the University of Kyoto.
	And he was talking about doing that, you know, having them on there for at least a few hours.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	I have friends who've taken DMT. I should probably ask.
	Well, I mean, I think what they're referencing, 'cause also this like friend of a friend is like,
	"Oh, I heard this thing and I'm synthesizing a lie." And I think that what they're basing that
	on is like DMT sounds more intense than like the acid test, which were absolutely real and
	documented and they kept, I mean, like, so the CIA and the, oh boy, I'm going to sound crazy,
	but it's real. Like the CIA kept, like, were experimenting on incarcerated people
	and keeping people like for 77 days, I think was the longest that they were just like dosing,
	Yeah, I thought that everybody kinda knew that now.
	Isn't that just common knowledge? Yeah, well, I don't know that Alex thinks about that, you know,
	like he's he's I think that these guys still think that that's like a secret thing that they can riff
	on. Yeah.
	And so they can point to something's like, well, this happened.
	So then this DMT thing, like remote viewing moment must have also happened because also referencing San Francisco, like there's specific things that happened.
	Like there's there he's saying vague, like he's he's having a fun time, like, you know, making kind of a narrative that's based on stuff he heard.
	It's kind of like- He's inserting himself.
	It's a verbal collage.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	A brickolage.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Perhaps.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He's very much inserting himself into that kind of scenario.
	And, oh, the word he was searching for that wasn't astronaut was psychonaut, I believe.
	Sure.
	That's what he was hunting for.
	You know, it's ironic, though, like, wasn't Michael Savage actually friends with, like, all those, those, like, Ginsburg and those hippies?
	Yeah, that's his lore, right?
	I think he actually was.
	Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
	Even if he actually was, I still don't personally know.
	I think that is an actual piece of Michael Savage's history.
	Isn't that more sensational that he turned into what he turned into?
	Because I listened to him back in the day, too.
	I don't remember him mentioning that, but also...
	I mean... I wouldn't be surprised, you know, there was, like, a lot of the guys on the Kool-Aid bus, you know, like Ken Kesey, he aged into being cool, but a ton of those guys aged into being pieces of shit, too.
	Yeah, it's a crapshoot.
	Like, the 70s disillusioned so many people because they really thought they were gonna do... It's gonna be what we're about to go through now, you know, like, we all were like, ah, we're so gonna change things.
	And then the 70s made them all realize that they weren't actually going to change anything.
	The 70s brought about the 80s.
	So then everybody's like, well, let's just get rich and high.
	Cocaine.
	And then we got saved by the bell.
	And now we're here.
	That is essentially American history.
	I've just explained it to you.
	Nihilism and apathy is where we're at.
	Good, good, good stuff.
	Now, on our show, we've been plagued the last several weeks with, honestly, some big dum-dums.
	From Naomi Wolf, to Dave Rubin, to Donald Trump Jr., to Gina Carano, and none of them have provided any meat for me to research, which has been very annoying.
	And so, with Alex coming on, I thought, like, man, I hope he brings a white paper or references some obscure legislation, as he is wont to do, or at least brings a printed-out tweet, because I know he loves doing that, for him to just give me something, anything to properly sink my teeth into.
	And instead, I got this.
	The point is, most people go on and be, I'm a firefighter, I'm a police officer, I'm a lawyer, but in the real world it's, I'm a black cop operator, I'm a disinformation operationist, I'm interfacing with the interdimensional elves.
	I mean, in the real world, the government is like, 100% talk to aliens.
	Like, they got SETI, beam in the sky, they got ground level stuff, and all they're doing is like, what do the aliens want?
	And the aliens always say, kill 20 kids in front of us, we'll give you the secret of superconductors.
	What a weird thing to say!
	So you bring 20 kids in, slit their throats, kill them, the aliens go, here's the code to fission fusion.
	And the aliens go, by the way, have a big war, kill 10 million, we'll give you the future of free energy.
	I mean, that's really what it is.
	Like, I've sat there and heard people involved with the government, Literally talking about interfacing with the elves.
	So that's what I'm telling you.
	The aliens are real, folks.
	It's all real.
	The elves are like little robots.
	They're like the custodian first level thing you see.
	And that's what all the ancient cultures thought about the elves.
	They're literally like little green aliens, little green hats, little uniforms, whole nine yards.
	Okay okay so so now I'm thinking something a little bit different okay so now I'm thinking if we're talking to the level one custodian folks we're not talking to like diplomat aliens these are people it's entirely possible we're just like a fucking weekend project To these goddamn aliens, like they've got other shit to do and then they're fucking, oh once a week I show up at the community garden to murder 10 million people.
	I don't like that.
	I want a better, I want the diplomat aliens.
	Well you get the custodians, you get the janitors.
	This is bullshit.
	If you look at the US it'd have a little more sway, you know what I mean?
	That would be bigger, more important.
	I feel like listening to that clip, I don't understand what you mean that you didn't have anything to dig into.
	It's pretty meaty.
	There's a lot of citations, sources.
	I got interdimensional robot elves with hats and uniforms, so what?
	Little hats.
	Interview Alex's mom's friend!
	It's right there!
	I love how desensitized these people must have gotten in this in this real scenario because every time oh my god the aliens are asking us to murder 20 kids again Every fucking time.
	Like, do they already bring- are we like, oh jeez, we'll just bring 20 kids every time now.
	How about that?
	20 kids being murdered for fission fusion is strange too.
	Also, I mean, is it worth it?
	Well, I mean, that feels cheap.
	We still haven't achieved it.
	We haven't got there yet.
	And what is his response to?
	What prompted him to say this?
	Or was it anything?
	Because that's also an option.
	I think he might be a little drunk.
	I didn't want to say it, but it does feel a little bit like that.
	I couldn't see any cups anywhere, but you never know.
	He has a little thing just like under his desk.
	Like a little mini table thing that I think that he sets a cup on pretty regularly.
	Yeah.
	We'll know when you can finally buy that desk.
	Which is not going to be soon.
	Can't afford that desk.
	Yeah, there's been a lot of debate over that.
	I think, I think, I think, I don't know, we could probably crowdfund it.
	I think there's going to be an effort.
	Anyway, anyway, yeah, this was not the research I was hoping for, but I did give it a go.
	So the whole idea of machine elves seems to go back to Terence McKenna from his taking high dosages of DMT and claiming to see singing machine elves who spoke to him in a visible language.
	Um, Terence McKenna said a lot of things, and I do question just how seriously one should take another person's hallucinogenic trip.
	Um, the human sacrifice part of the Machine Elves, however, does seem to be a uniquely Alex Jones spin on things.
	Um, and is apparently, yeah, how we achieved nuclear fission reactors.
	Um, though we've not sacrificed enough kids for a fusion reactor yet.
	Um, so my brother works in the nuclear field, so I'll let him know.
	Hey Rob, let's kill some kids.
	We'll get there.
	Just, you know, stop.
	Is that what we've been missing this whole time?
	Children's blood?
	Apparently!
	They've been working on this question for a long time.
	And if Alex is saying the price is 20 sacrifices, this just doesn't seem possible.
	It seems like that's such a low bar for the demon evil globalists that he's fighting.
	It seems comical.
	I'm telling you, it's weekend custodian shit.
	They don't even care.
	It's a prank.
	They don't even really care about these 20 kids.
	They're just doing it.
	They're just doing it. Yeah. They're just going through the motions.
	Yeah, I mean, according to QAnon, this is like 20 kids is a week is like a fun weekend for a
	couple of senators like, you know.
	Hillary Clinton goes through that in a month.
	That seems how the scale that they talk about this on.
	This is a problem with people just like, just let drugs be great.
	If everybody's like, oh drugs are great, I love doing drugs, drugs are fun to do, then nobody's gonna be like, oh I had a vision.
	Ah, we've all done drugs.
	We all do drugs.
	Your vision is bullshit.
	I had a friend who did ayahuasca, and you hear all these stories of this transcendent stuff and there's all the flowery language, and one thing I really appreciated was he just said to me, he's like, y'all got real high.
	That's a nice book.
	Yes! - That's a nice.
	Seems about right. - Drugs are great.
	Just do them. - That's all, that's great.
	It doesn't need to be magic.
	You don't have to touch it, what are you supposed to do? - It doesn't need to be magic,
	just do drugs.
	(laughing)
	Yeah, roller coasters are acceptable, legal, and celebrated, and we're trying to achieve
	the same kind of like heightened moment in your brain, right?
	in your brain, right?
	Like it's just yeah, it's kind of kind of normal and Telling me about the trip you had is adjacent to telling me about a dream.
	Nope Yeah, we have limited patience for that I don't need to I mean unless it might be very interesting for a creative person to have an endeavor where they but that's separate And we're going to make a creative choice.
	Don't just tell me about your fucking dream one wonders If Alex, what he's actually saying, too, because, you know, maybe he is describing his own trip.
	Like, maybe he is just saying, I did drugs and somebody asked me to kill kids.
	His own experience, or maybe one of his family members.
	That's all that's really being articulated and projected onto the globalists.
	His mom in the back of a Volkswagen when he was six.
	It did just kind of hit me that my trips are cool, but Alex Jones trips, I would not want to have.
	I'll give you a trick.
	If you want to tell somebody else about your dream, but you don't want to bore them, you start with I had a dream you were in it and you were slightly thinner than you are right now and then you talk and then every like two or three sentences just point like you were there looking great and then you can continue going.
	It's how you do it.
	It works 100% of the time.
	We do have, we have one trip report from Alex, and you all were in and you all look great, but he talked about a giant hundred foot tall grasshopper being that tortures all Christians until they give up their faith.
	So he has talked about, was that?
	I think that he said that he was a high when he saw that.
	I think so.
	And it's universal.
	All Christians say that.
	The giant grasshopper.
	If the lies weren't constant, you know?
	It's a challenge.
	I feel like he judged it a little bit.
	It seems very coherent.
	Somehow.
	I can't believe I just said that.
	That is one of the things I do want to believe.
	Also, it was coherent coming out of Dan's mouth.
	I don't know how coherent it would have been coming out of Alex's mouth.
	I filter a little.
	Yeah, a little.
	Now, Russell thankfully asks a question about all of this, though in relation to Christianity, while Alex lights a cigarette.
	His question isn't, are you okay?
	About declassified documentation that they've been given access to that shows that from like Roswell onward there have been relationships between earth governments and intergalactic NAEs.
	I know again that you and Ike were some of the first people that popularized these ideas, but I've heard these ideas, you know, before I exist in a cultural space, you know, as a drug addict when I was 16, I was listening to this kind of stuff.
	I was listening to you saying some of this kind of stuff.
	We've had in the last couple of years, in the post-pandemic era, limited revelations about government access to extraterrestrial technology.
	We've had military personnel talking about UFOs.
	When you talk about Beings, though.
	That's when it comes different.
	Like, technology's one thing.
	I think we can handle that.
	But when we talk about beings, it becomes a little more... What do I want to say?
	Innovating.
	It's a little more effervescent.
	It's a little more potent when you hear that.
	Because I wonder how you equate that with, like, Absolutely.
	forces, your faith as a Christian, and what that means about the trajectory of power,
	because even insignificant things like you getting shut down and a censorship industrial
	complex that wants to control the information space, pales into insignificance if what we're
	saying is that the encounters that a person ordinarily describes on high psychedelics
	of meeting with entities is an objective reality, is a reality that's inaccessible.
	Absolutely. The globalists are on super psychedelics getting divine information, they believe,
	from aliens. And they do that because our limited sight is limited. We saw everything.
	We couldn't even live our lives. So you take this stuff, the veil's broken, and the way
	God works is, and God's angels will not communicate with you because it violates the code of free
	But the demons will.
	Fuck the code, man.
	You can dial into this stuff but only go downward.
	And so I think that's the best way to describe it is that Earth is being demonically influenced to blow ourselves up and destroy ourselves because we've got some larger destiny we're about to do.
	And that's what I'm trying to say to people is, this is real.
	This is a spiritual battle.
	Everything's a spiritual battle.
	Which doesn't sound even remotely real.
	Like at all.
	No?
	No!
	Space contracts?
	I mean, you know, interdimensional space contract law?
	That feels right.
	Looking at this freeze frame of Russell Brand's face.
	And I might be projecting something, but there's a feeling that he gives me that is like, can I get away with saying you're crazy?
	Can I get away with like, is my place in the market going to be threatened by me alienating Alex Jones and being clear that I think that this stuff is nuts?
	Because he's saying insane things on my show.
	He has a way of calling Alex crazy pretty regularly, which is describing Alex as shamanic or a shaman of some kind, and kind of reaching out into the fringes.
	He's a shaman that rises above things.
	That's Russell's way of calling him crazy.
	From which- Well, and we've noticed Russell in previous, you know, like with interacting with other interesting characters, we'll say.
	And the way that he does kind of like dodge the bullets is one of my favorite phrases.
	He says, interesting still, albeit apocryphal.
	Like someone clearly saying something fucking wild and fake, but commonly understood to be a weird myth.
	He's like, But saying it is true, he has a way of just kinda like slightly dodging, just a little bit.
	And you're like, oh, you were allowed to, that's very creative.
	You're allowed to think that.
	That's the other kind of shady.
	This is what you get whenever you're obsessed with power dynamics and how they function, is that they're allowed to do this.
	Like, it took me a second Uh but at the end of Russell Brand speaking I like stopped and I realized that I wanted like what I would have done is instead of responding to that I would have just said censorship industrial complex and then slapped him in the face.
	Yeah.
	Like don't don't ever say that to me again just don't sit don't get out of here you know like but if you're in the power dynamics you're like well I have to respond to the question that I'm here like nah nah nah nah nah And I'll tell you about angels and demons.
	Now we can get started.
	I've become so desensitized to all of the things that come out of Russell's mouth and I feel like that's what amazes me in this interview and in the one where Russell went on InfoWars as well Is Russell just being pretty much dead behind the eyes?
	Like, he's not taken aback particularly by anything that Alex says, which, fucking scary, because on the Infowars one, Alex was like, oh yeah, I've beaten people to death, you know, I've done bad things like people do, and Russell just nodded along, and I'm like...
	That didn't raise a question, and this is very much what we're getting here now.
	It's Imbrav!
	He got a yes and, right?
	I think he's also trying to stay above it.
	I think Russell's trying to pretend that he's above this somehow, and he's not.
	I will be apocryphal.
	It's like being magnanimous.
	It's like, oh, that can be your truth.
	It doesn't have to be the truth of my show.
	I say he's spent a lot of time in LA and a lot of time in Hollywood.
	This is not the first time he's heard exactly these same words directly into his face a lot.
	He's probably like, oh yeah.
	He just goes into automatic, the eyes glaze over and he smiles and is like, yeah, let's work together.
	Fully.
	I do have a question because we've talked about, or I guess you guys have talked about on your show, This whole adventure that Alex has had with David Icke, as far as, like, the ebb and flow of how he feels about David Icke.
	And Russell has twice called, like, basically lumped Alex in with David Icke, and I think that these days, somehow that's, like, Alex has decided it's fine, but Alex would, like, come for David Icke hard for years, right?
	Yeah, he was the turd in the punch bowl, as Alex put it.
	He was the guy who would give you half of the truth, but then throw aliens in, in order to invalidate the half of the truth that he gave you.
	He was like a working-for-the-globalist kind of controlled opposition, ironically.
	Yeah, a CIA target.
	How far we've come, and now Alex is all about the aliens.
	It's interesting how that worked back then, because it was like everybody was kind of finding their slot.
	There was a space open in that early internet, And everybody's trying to, like, stake out their claim, like the fucking 49ers or whatever.
	And so, you know, this guy sucks because he's not this and I'm me and here are my boundaries.
	And then now everybody's kind of got their space, everybody's established, and you can say alien shit if you fucking want to.
	Right, right, right, right.
	Boundaries are an impediment instead of, like, building up the place where you begin and the other person stops.
	But, David Icke and Alex are a little bit at odds now because David Icke doesn't like Elon Musk that much.
	That's right!
	That's right, that's right, that's right.
	They're falling back out a little.
	It feels very strange to be agreeing with David Icke, but he has some very sensible points about Elon Musk.
	Right well it's what Naomi Klein's been calling diagonalism instead of like you know left right or whatever it's the diagonalism is like how all these people are kind of coalescing and you know plugging each other's books and all this kind of stuff and they seem like disparate kind of personalities but they're actually serving the same kind of like, they found out how lucrative
	satanic terrorism is. And so they're like, gonna come and get
	their piece of the pie.
	Yeah, they've also found out how lucrative fish oil, gold and
	survival buckets are.
	I mean, right, you know, go back, go back to whenever you had, you know, the Presbyterians and Catholics fighting
	each And now they're all like, Hey, listen, there's a lot of, there's a lot, there's plenty of money to be had in America.
	Plenty of cash.
	Come on now.
	We'll be all right.
	We gotta get more money in that roof repair fund.
	Sure, your God is a direct affront to mine, and technically the Bible says we should be fighting to the death, but you're white, so let's roll!
	Yeah, you're white and we got some money to make.
	Let's do it.
	Yeah, one final point.
	There's no way that Russell was watching Alex when he was 16, because they're only a year and a half apart in age, so that definitely didn't help.
	Wow!
	Holy shit.
	Listeners!
	I don't know which one looks worse.
	I genuinely don't know which one looks worse.
	Nah, I think if Russell put a shirt on, he'd look pretty good.
	His skin's clearly better.
	I think if he's in his late 40s, he looks pretty good.
	And I resent, honestly, that Alex has also grown into his beard.
	That really pisses me off.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	When he was first having facial hair, he looked like shit.
	It's true.
	Ah, it's awful.
	Kind of looks right.
	It still looks like a shit Wolverine.
	I don't like it.
	It used to be much more of a neckbeard, you know, which was a lot funnier.
	But yeah, he's gone in with the mustache part.
	But yeah, only a year and a half younger Russell is.
	That's best shot.
	Yeah.
	That shock is pretty crazy.
	To confront as a reality.
	I'm only 10 years younger than Alex.
	And I mean, I know that's more than one and a half, but it's still terrifying.
	I've actually been dead for 25 years.
	We know.
	This is a ghost.
	We're all on DMT.
	That's how we're talking to you.
	You're talking to a recording that I made because I can see the future.
	We've been remote viewing this whole time!
	That's why the audio gets weird!
	I get it!
	Okay!
	I have actually been thinking about this and like I think the reason of as well as aesthetics but I think the real reason it feels so weird is that Alex was you know saying take me seriously from such a young age you know he he started like really young with his broadcasting it was like what 95 or something was 94?
	Yeah.
	Something like that which is like That's crazy young for anyone to take you seriously.
	He was like in his 20s, right?
	Yeah.
	I think that's part of it.
	That's a great point to make, though, as far as the power that Russell has that Alex does.
	Alex is stuck with take me seriously, whereas the opposite, Russell's like, I'm just a goober.
	Don't take me seriously.
	I can't even button my top.
	I'm just a comedian.
	It's a total, like, he can get away with so much more.
	But also, let's go to Bali.
	I'm a goober, but we're going to start a commune in Bali.
	Yeah.
	I'm so fine.
	Just come.
	I'm not going to make you.
	You just have to, like, come here and then just give me all your stuff so we can pay for it.
	There will be rules.
	There will be rules for sure.
	Well, there'll be rules for you.
	There won't be for me, but you know.
	I'm just saying that I like a good conversation that begins with, hey, let's do Scientology right this time.
	I think we can learn from our mistakes.
	We can really nail the next religion we make up.
	Yeah yeah so so far Russell's is definitely going to be pretty Christian adjacent at the very least.
	Yeah it's not that creative or exciting.
	No no though he did he did once believe that he was like literally the second coming of Christ I think I think very early on I think Aesthetically, that's very obvious that he thinks that.
	Oh yeah, well yeah, the reason he's got 33 tattooed on him is because that's the age supposedly Jesus was when he died and Russell was certain that he was going to die the same age, you know, because.
	Because.
	I've heard of the 27 Club.
	I haven't heard of the 33 Club.
	Cool people died.
	It's exclusive.
	It's very exclusive.
	When did Jimi Hendrix die?
	That's the 27 Club.
	That's the one.
	Okay, so he wasn't doing the cool one.
	He was doing the shitty Jesus one.
	He's doing the shitty Jesus one.
	A much more alarming one.
	I would rather be in the cool club with Janis Joplin and shit.
	That'd be fun.
	When you're still tight.
	Still firm.
	What's fun about that though is that it earned him a bunch of shit from conspiracy theorists because 33 is like a big deal within the Masons.
	That's the highest level of Mason is a 33rd degree.
	And so everyone still accuses him of being a Mason every now and then.
	These are the risks you take when you court this audience.
	This is the kind of thing that happens.
	I don't think he cares.
	There's like power in how much he does not give a shit about his audience.
	I think he's just happy people are talking about him, you know?
	It's a stroke in the ego.
	Oh, people are mentioning me?
	Good, good.
	That's all I want.
	Do they show up and pay their, does the money come out of their bank account every month?
	We're good to go.
	That's genuinely like, 'cause he can be really shady to his listeners too.
	I really don't think he gives a shit.
	He did a meditation with one of his listeners once.
	Oh, I'll never forget.
	I'll never forget as long as I live.
	Spent a full 10 minutes giving him shit during a meditation.
	Just so mean!
	He's a fuckin' Australian teenager!
	If that's all he was doing, that might be pretty funny.
	That's pretty funny.
	Oh, he was hilarious!
	It might be an interesting art project.
	Yeah.
	Of, like, performance art.
	Yeah, he just roasted this kid!
	Just fuckin' burned alive, poor kid.
	But, like, all underhanded compliments?
	Like it's, oh my god, oh it was hilarious.
	I mean, you're the one listening to Russell Brand.
	This is on you.
	Yeah, apparently, sooner or later you have to take responsibility for your own actions.
	Yeah.
	I think my, I do, I have this experience a lot with this show, and I'm sure you guys have some, it's like my empathy will get activated with my cynicism in tandem.
	It's like, it's like don't, just, if you're, just sell roasts on Cameo.
	And just be honest about it.
	Don't say, I'm gonna help this early 20s kid.
	He's supposed to be helping him with his problem.
	Yeah.
	I've had to shut off some of that over time.
	Because it just gets exhausting and repetitive.
	Like caring and feeling that side of it too much.
	But I don't know if I could have if Alex was doing guided meditations with his audience.
	That's such a different variety of thing.
	Call it a bitchy roast.
	Call it what it is.
	I'm here for it.
	It's just that it was this weird opportunity to insult, which he also takes as opportunities to call his... But he's also very careful about it, and he uses the same kind of flowery language.
	So, he can get away with it, I guess?
	That he just will really be insensitive.
	British people who talk fast get away with a lot of shit.
	Yeah, yes.
	And again, this is like the 1987 stock market crash.
	You know, you say there, and you're like, nobody did anything about it.
	It's gonna happen again.
	Until people start beating up the British, it's just gonna keep happening.
	I'm telling you.
	I apologize on behalf of my country.
	There will be speech required speeds.
	There will be a maximum speech speed in Bali when we get there.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	120 beats per minute!
	That's the maximum you can do!
	Now I do want to explain specifically, like, because we've been talking about Shade.
	Shade comes from reading.
	Very specifically, it's like, Drag Queen Dory and Kory explained, you know, kind of took it upon herself to explain in this documentary that's fabulous and everyone should watch, about, like, the ballroom scene right in New York.
	and I was like late 80s early 90s and she says shade comes from reading and reading is like I don't have to tell you you're ugly because you already know that you're ugly and that's shade like so it's that kind of backhanded Like, you're not really saying it.
	You're implying it, which I do think that any speed of speaking British... I think that's very British, to be honest.
	Yeah, it is very British.
	We're masters of... that's Downton Abbey in a nutshell, you know.
	I don't know, it's giving people shit.
	It's passive aggression, it's...
	I think it's the caste system that you had historically created a lot of this.
	We're gonna deal with British history.
	Right here.
	See, I'm telling you, it brings it out in Dan, too.
	There's no patriotism between the two of us until we get to Britain.
	Not as far as me, though.
	See, that's why I had to let go of doing the show.
	I gotta turn that down.
	Yeah, I'm not going to argue with you.
	Class warfare is the main warfare that Britain has waged for the entire time.
	And I say this as a person at the bottom of it.
	So, yeah, I'm with you.
	Now, I don't want to talk too quickly, right?
	So, Russell now... No.
	No.
	No.
	Is that too fast?
	Too slow?
	We're not applying the Bali rules.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	It's just in Bali.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Good.
	I got you on next week.
	We have no jurisdiction here.
	Okay, good, good.
	Now, Russell asks how all of this relates to things in the real world.
	So, a reminder, we're back on, you know, DMT, Alien, Demons, right?
	And, yeah, they're all demons.
	The globalists are all on DMT all the time, talking to the demons, right?
	So, how this relates to things in the real world, or almost the real world.
	Why are you saying a thing about the 20 kids being killed, Alex?
	You know, when we talk about human trafficking and child trafficking and these various sort of odd sexualized occultist movements in places of high power, how significant is the Epstein stuff for that?
	And why would extraterrestrials want 20 kids killed?
	Is this, was it called a dendrochrome?
	What is this stuff, mate?
	Why is that part of this?
	Yeah, dendrochrome is kind of a...
	Lexicon understand it, but here's the deal.
	If you will hurt your future, if you will kill your children, Then they know that you'll do whatever they say.
	And when you kill children, your own children particularly, or a dog you love, like the Nazis made SS officers do, you lower the spiritual defense shield of life.
	So they need you to do human sacrifice, particularly children, because then they can send a transmission.
	So God puts up a defense shield of people that are pro-God, pro-family, pro-life, pro-human.
	But if you will go against children, you lower the defense shield so they can send the transmission in.
	So it's all very scientific.
	We think of it all the same.
	I don't care about the kids.
	If they can get us to kill our children and get us to hurt ourselves, then interdimensionally, we've gone against our own code.
	The defense shield unloads and collapses, and now the transmission can be sent.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, it does.
	It does?
	What?
	No, no, no.
	It does.
	It's very scientific.
	I find this, this is something that's really difficult to sort of put into words.
	But like Jordan, your response is like, what?
	And like yelling and stuff.
	And mine is just kind of quietly nodding and periodically being like, yep.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Correct.
	But it feels the same.
	That's what I thought you were going to say.
	There's a divide.
	There's a divide.
	I feel like I'm yelling.
	No, it's the same.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But it's being expressed through nodding and like, oh yeah, yeah, sure.
	Force Fields, Star Wars Technology, Missile Defense.
	The thing about all of this stuff, you know, is like, what is this god doing on his off time?
	Like, what are these custodian elves, what are they doing on their off time?
	Because if they're on time, it's like, okay, so I'm raising the shield, obviously, it's like 1030, that's when I always raise the shield.
	Oh shit, this guy killed his own kid, gotta lower the shield!
	Like, I was watching the game!
	Like, what was he doing?
	Probably playing Fortnite.
	Right?
	I don't know.
	It's like, ah, it sucks, I'm gonna be uncool tonight, you know?
	Gonna be uncool in case someone wants to lower the shield after killing some kids.
	He's constantly, constantly raising and lowering the shield.
	Yep.
	And monitoring the child sacrifice.
	Right?
	Okay, so how about this?
	Okay, imagine we overloaded God.
	So we get everybody on a loop.
	Everybody's taking shifts killing their own kids, right?
	God's so busy raising and lowering this shield, right?
	Now we've got a chance.
	So I don't know what we're gonna do.
	What do we do when God's not looking?
	I'm gonna need ideas from you guys now.
	What if we did the most pious things possible when God wasn't looking?
	Ooh!
	Now you're throwing it under his... Now you're trying to take God's spot.
	God isn't... No, no, no!
	You're trying to show up God!
	God is entirely distracted, but all you do is read the Bible and pray.
	So then he goes back and looks at the tape.
	You get no credit for it.
	Oh, shit.
	I was reviewing your performance logs, and surprisingly, human race, you were crushing it while they were murdering all those kids.
	Right, does he have to reconcile at the end of the month?
	Is that what he's like?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Of course.
	It all depends on when you turn in your timesheet!
	Here's what I'm struggling with about this clip, because this is stupid, but... Okay, so the demons need you to kill these kids in order to lower the... Well, first of all, they know that it's a test.
	So they know that you'll do whatever they tell them you do, which implies that there's something else that they want you to do later, which I don't know what that is and Alex isn't saying.
	Second, it's to lower the shield, but the shield exists because of God-fearing good people like Alex existing in society.
	Do the aliens know God?
	But also what is the next point?
	What is the end game of this?
	What's the second move?
	A bigger shield.
	Once the shield is lowered, the transmission can get in.
	But what does the transmission want anybody to do?
	Well, I think that was like, kill all the kids and kill all the people.
	I think this circles back to the globalists wanting to kill everyone.
	It's terraforming the earth so the silicon beings can come and live on earth.
	There's no way, there's no way that you're, it's like, just as a person, it doesn't matter if it's aliens or not, if you're sending a transmission that requires you to kill 20 kids, and then the message you get back is kill 20,000 kids, you're gonna be like, fuck these guys.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	That's bullshit.
	That's a bullshit message.
	They give you a reward first.
	You gotta reel them in.
	You gotta reel them in with something.
	You can't be just tossing back, ah, kill more people.
	Bullshit.
	Yeah.
	That's shitty management, honestly.
	You're not giving people the tools that they need.
	I, um, I did enjoy in that clip that Alex dodged the adrenochrome question.
	I was like, we've been down that road before and I got in trouble.
	How sloppy he's getting.
	He's getting rough around the edges, we'll say.
	There's a vibe that is growing.
	It's a little weird to talk about adrenochrome at all.
	He's already claimed that people drink blood straight.
	Why would you refine it?
	And he's said that people try and terrorize children to make adrenochrome because they need it in order to commune with these demons.
	He's said that stuff before on here.
	Yeah, he says Q-Anon shit all the time.
	Yeah, no one holds anybody responsible for these swings of the past.
	It's weird how Russell will work Q-Anon stuff in, because it's very tangential.
	He doesn't even know the word adrenochrome.
	I don't know if that was affected or not, but it's enough to where he gets a whisper of a Q-Anon thing that made it into a pastel Q-Anon meme.
	It felt a little affected to me.
	He always claims he can't pronounce hydroxychloroquine either.
	Hold on to that for a second.
	Yeah, despite having sold it on his show.
	I was gonna say, if they advertised, he can say it.
	That's a fucking fact, Jack.
	He knows.
	In terms of Alex's performance, one thing I have taken note of is in this interview compared to the last one, he's much better at pronouncing his V's.
	For a while everything was a B sound instead, which confused the hell out of me, I wasn't sure what it was.
	The devil.
	Yeah, devil.
	Evil.
	Evil is my favorite.
	I've paid a lot of attention to that, and one of the things that I'm fascinated by is that it is not consistent.
	Like, over years, sometimes it's a B, sometimes it's a V. It's just, whatever's gonna come out is gonna come out.
	It's random.
	At the end of the day, he's just expelling air.
	I've driven myself crazy trying to find, like, Is there a pattern?
	Why is he pronouncing the V correctly?
	Is there some surrounding context?
	I can't come up with anything.
	In his office, there's the notebooks from 7 that has every time he's used a V or a B. It's still spelled with the number 7 though.
	That's as good as it gets.
	We're gonna get out of here, right?
	We just did some live shows.
	Ladies and gentlemen, this is a great time for that.
	We're going to get out of here.
	Be sure to get your krill oil.
	(laughter)
	Oh yeah, yeah, I do enjoy it.
	I didn't cut the clip, but he does at one point accidentally call Russell, Russell Bland, which I did appreciate.
	Oh, what a blow!
	Get his ass!
	Yeah, but then he just said something real boring and was whining about how everyone's out to get him, so I was like, ah, it's not worth it.
	But yeah, Russell Bland.
	Now, Russell Bland takes all of this in a biblical direction, because of course he does.
	What you're saying is that we all have a general and personal feeling of what love is, but that has a frequency, that has a qualitative and almost a quantitative component.
	If you had instruments delicate enough to observe it on an essential level, you'd be able to see that love is an entity, that love is a field, that love is a shield, and by getting you to transgress against that, they create...
	Opportunities for a relationship that wouldn't be present otherwise.
	That makes me think about, you know, Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac.
	It makes me think about Christ's sacrifice as part of a new covenant between God and his people.
	What do you think about the significance of what you're saying there in this milieu about power and the frequency of love and those two biblical sacrifices right there?
	That's right, Russell.
	So, at the beginning of the Abrahamic religions—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—God says, sacrifice your child, and when God's disciple is ready to do it.
	God says, here's the ram.
	I've given you a replacement.
	And so God says, this ends now.
	Stop doing... Judaism has all these criticisms, and it's got its own problems.
	It's so powerful.
	You think powerful is going to have the enemy swarming around it.
	But God said, stop killing your children.
	And it was the Jews in the Middle East where everybody's killing their kids to idols because it's so powerful.
	God, it's powerful.
	Take your baby you love, you have with your woman, and throw it on a big metal plate and boil your child.
	And it pops and explodes and everything.
	God is saying, don't do that.
	So God says with Abraham, and the angel grabs his hand, God wanted to see you do it.
	And literally the beginning of Abrahamic religion, all the three major faiths was, Will you kill your kid?
	And God says, you did it, but I stopped you.
	Now never do it again.
	And then you go through the Old Testament, New Testament.
	Now we don't need sacrifice anymore.
	It's all about stop doing that.
	And so that's what's so powerful about this understanding is that these entities want us to kill our kids.
	And God and the Abrahamic religion at the beginning of it says, my religion is about stopping killing children.
	There you go.
	There you have it.
	Rabbi Shmuley himself couldn't have said it better.
	I have to say, there are people who murder children, and they don't get special powers.
	They often go to jail.
	And if they had special powers, they probably would get out of going to jail.
	So that seems like a counterexample to... Well, that is the contention, though, with adrenochrome and QAnon.
	What is that?
	But maybe they learned how to do- They get power, right?
	But what about the people who've been arrested?
	They didn't do it right?
	They fucked it up?
	I don't know.
	Maybe they didn't get superpowers.
	You make an excellent point!
	They didn't get superpowers, but maybe all these people in prison learned how to do a cold fusion reactor and that's why we don't have one yet because they're all in prison!
	Right.
	This makes sense.
	It just makes too much sense.
	I do love Alex's characterization of God.
	Like, the idea that God is like, okay, well, these guys are, these people are sacrificing their kids.
	That's terrible.
	And then looks back and then looks back.
	Well, now it's gotten out of hand.
	I gotta do something about it.
	Like God wasn't, like he was moderate.
	Hey, listen, a little bit is fine.
	That's just part of the game, you know.
	And my solution is to see and tell you to do it to see if you win.
	Yeah, I'm gonna trick him.
	I'm gonna fuck with this guy's head for a little bit.
	To the last second!
	It does feel like he was turning to look at a guy like, check what I'm gonna get this guy to do.
	You won't believe this shit.
	Seriously, they'll do fucking anything I say.
	Not a nice story.
	Kind of makes Scott seem like a massive dick.
	It's upsetting.
	Also, like there are a good number of Bible passages where God orders his followers to
	murder children.
	Like there are several.
	True.
	Samuel.
	There's one where God tells his followers to kill their own children.
	So, quote, "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son which will not obey the voice of his father,
	or the voice of his mother, and that when they have chastened him will not hearken unto them,
	then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him unto the elders of his city,
	and unto the gate of his place, and..."
	And they shall say unto the elders of his city, this our son is stubborn and rebellious.
	He will not obey our voice.
	He is a glutton and a drunkard.
	Looking at you, Alex.
	And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones that he die.
	So shalt thou put evil away from among you.
	That's Deuteronomy.
	Talk about population control.
	Murder your kids if they don't listen to you.
	They're stubborn.
	Stubborn and rebellious.
	What are you going to do?
	I think women should be allowed to vote!
	Stone him!
	Stone him!
	There's a Life of Brian joke in there somewhere.
	I haven't got it.
	Yeah, all of this is like, I don't know, this is going to be obvious, but I don't feel like Alex read the book.
	I don't feel like he did the reading.
	That'd be inconvenient for him, I feel.
	Yeah, it's a lot of work.
	And Russell does at least read the Bible, and I know he does because he does Bible readings on his locals channel with supporters.
	That's always exciting.
	And he posts about it all the time.
	That sounds creepy sexual.
	Sorry.
	It's weird.
	Sorry for all Christians, but your Bible's creepy and gross.
	I don't know what's happening.
	Whatever Russell Brand is.
	Like, oh, we're going to do Bible reading.
	Oh, no, I don't like that.
	I don't like that at all.
	Start thinking about a different religion, maybe, you know, just this guy's on board.
	Wasn't he also reading the screw tape letters recently?
	Right.
	He's basically been taking and he's been Giving his audience the illusion of choice by saying, like, you guys tell me what to read next and we'll do it together.
	But it's just a content farm thing.
	He's giving off a youth group leader energy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	He's going to end up trying to blow people's minds with C.S.
	Lewis.
	Yeah, he's on that.
	He does C.S.
	Lewis readings every week.
	No, they've been doing mere Christianity for the last, like, six months.
	What a dick.
	What a dick!
	Yeah, and with the open shirt, it looks like he's gonna turn his chair around and rap.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, kids, let's talk about the real shit now.
	This is what your parents won't tell you.
	Don't go on the float trip, kids.
	He's gonna break out, like, a non-alcoholic beer.
	He's drinking kombucha in this interview!
	He's drinking kombucha in this interview We've got just one more clip here and the interview ends pretty much the only way it was ever going to.
	It's time to pray.
	Do we pray for our enemies as our Lord and Savior suggests?
	Alex, do we pray for them?
	I think we must pray for them because we don't want the energy of God's destruction of them.
	We hope they reprove themselves.
	We hope they turn around.
	We hope that they join us because we love them.
	But yeah, we don't want to hate them because that energetically ties us to them.
	We want to say, God, we love these people.
	We hope they wake up.
	It all makes sense once you're at this level because, again, hatred is an energetic connection.
	We want to give them love.
	And hope they turn around because if they don't, they are cut off from God and all of us forever.
	So absolutely, I pray for my enemies.
	I love them.
	I care about them.
	Even though I hate what they do, I love them because I don't want to see them cut off from God forever.
	Lord Jesus Christ, at the foot of your cross, by your blood and by your wounds, we pray for our enemies, Lord.
	We pray for their forgiveness and we pray for redemption.
	We pray that we may belong to you individually and collectively and that we may become a vessel for your light.
	Holy Father, we know that we survive and thrive only by your grace and by your power, not by anything that we have done, but by what you do for us.
	In your holy name, Lord Jesus Christ, we pray.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	I pray that we can continue to align and find ways to be of service.
	Are we still praying?
	Is this the same prayer or did we start a new prayer?
	And that the light prevails.
	Russell, thank you.
	I felt the Holy Spirit during that.
	The point almost fell over.
	God bless you, and I appreciate you, Russell, and I hope I can see you again in person.
	I love you.
	Yeah, I love you, man.
	I'll come to Dallas.
	I mean, you can go to Dallas, but Alex lives in Austin.
	Listeners, nothing broke.
	That was deeply upsetting.
	I know people probably, how many people have looked at their app?
	Yeah, Alex is the king of dead air.
	It's gotta be said.
	But that's not like a lot of the times he has dead air.
	He looked like he almost had a stroke or something.
	It looked like his eyes rolled back.
	Jordan, Jordan, Jordan?
	I know that you have very often suggested that Alex might have God confused with the devil.
	Yes, correct.
	That looked like someone who had a demon jump into them.
	Yes.
	His eyes went like... That was horrifying!
	I'm not allowed to listen to the words!
	Stroke, demon, or drunk, or combination of all three, you know?
	Stroke, demon, or drunk is a great game.
	I love to play that at parties.
	We all just get together, we're like, I don't know, which is it gonna be today?
	Well, so Dan, you're one of the, like, you filter Alex for us.
	You're the one that watches Alex way more than any of us do, or entirely more than any of us do.
	And so, I don't know what's necessarily out of character for his physical presentation, and what you're saying is that that eye roll is special?
	That felt different.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, that hit different.
	Here's what I'll say.
	It's possible that he has moments that are kind of like that regularly, but you don't see it.
	And that's because the InfoWars editing team is pretty good.
	And so like, he's smoking that cigarette, you wouldn't see that if this was broadcast on InfoWars.
	They would cut around it or they would put up another B-roll or something.
	Whatever that moment was, was I don't even fucking know.
	I don't believe it was because of a prayer.
	I don't think it's a demon coming into him.
	I think it's either he's about to pass out because he's drunk or he is putting it on a little too thick.
	He's laying it on a little thick of like pretending that the spirits hit him.
	Which could be a drunk thing as well.
	True.
	Thinking that he's acting up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's a little too much.
	This is totally normal.
	I'm gonna go a little bit of a different direction.
	I think he was just assuming that Russell Brand was going to never stop talking.
	And the moment the thought of just listening to Russell Brand for the rest of his life in this exact moment hit him, his eyes just went to the back of his head and he's like, maybe I should die.
	But to me, there were two separate things that happened in that moment.
	Eye rolling back happened during the prayer.
	And then after the prayer ended, there was Alex just being mute and not saying anything.
	It was weird.
	And he wasn't looking off into a direction either.
	He was glazed.
	No, it was camera straight.
	Like a dog in a bad movie.
	Wild.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	If I were Russell, I'd be upset.
	None of this went the way it was supposed to go for him, I think.
	Well, I think that Jordan, you're describing an experience I have all the time when recording this show is listening to Russell.
	What if I have to listen to Russell forever?
	I could die!
	That sounds nice.
	Right now.
	I could cease to be.
	That's an option.
	Last week was a tough one.
	Oh my god.
	Anecdotally, we have evidence.
	I feel.
	I was just sitting there thinking, like, I'm not even gonna be able to play this on my own show.
	True.
	So he's probably just... What a waste of my life.
	I'm gonna check out.
	I'm just gonna check out and run away.
	I mean, to be fair, she wasn't giving.
	Like, she wasn't giving her best.
	Like, that's not...
	It's nice.
	I have to be grateful to y'all for one thing.
	Sometimes, because I assumed this, I had assumed this in the past, because I know myself, but now I know for sure, without a doubt, that I am just not going to, in any torture-based scenario, I give up before the torture begins.
	Like, I could listen to about 30 seconds of him talk before I screamed shut up.
	Like, no.
	No torture.
	It wasn't even that long.
	No torture at all.
	I give whatever information you want.
	That's fine.
	I can't hang.
	I can't handle it.
	I'm the easiest person to break in the world.
	And for me, I don't know if it's because I listen to so much Alex that he occupies a different place of my brain, but listening to Russell sucks way more, I think.
	Way more.
	Word count!
	Word count!
	I'm telling you, it's word count!
	It could be...
	I don't know.
	There's something about him.
	I've been thinking about that as well, because I do remember when I first started listening to your show, I would struggle with the Alex clips a little bit.
	Like, it really sucked to have to listen to Alex.
	Especially as, like, you know, his mode of speaking and the affectations and everything else are not something I get over here.
	So it's very much alien to me.
	But then I got used to it.
	So yeah, I think there's something to be said for getting used to torture.
	How I feel about it, and I'm more the true crime head of the two, of our hosting duo, and I think that there is a very, like, Russell is coming from such a different place than Alex is, and I've been wanting to find out how these two energies would interact for a long time.
	I'm very interested because I wanna see how different they are in comparison, not just the effects of aging, but also their energy.
	And so Russell is way more of that like kind of hypnotic cult guru speak because that's where he comes from.
	That's like his background.
	Whereas, you know, Alex is like, is fire and brimstone, you know, like revival preacher, which is a totally different vibe from, The guru Gish Gallop versus the Gish the guy is very American evangelical, whereas Russell absolutely benefits from, oh I'm a goober, oh I'm a spiritual being, I can't be bothered to button my top.
	That's like, he comes from a much squishier kind of Spiritualism appropriative place?
	Yeah.
	And yeah, there is something I try, especially in like our kind of off-brand episodes, I try to talk about like the intersection of like cult behavior and cult leader behavior with Russell, because it doesn't really apply, I feel, in the same way to Alex.
	And I think this comparison is very stark and interesting to me in that way, that it doesn't sound like there's, because there's a cadence, especially like the 70s guys, like cult leaders, they could just, it becomes wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
	Like Jordan you were describing, and also every single clip, I was like, I know when it stops sounding like words.
	I wonder when it stops sounding like words to Jordan.
	It's like, I'm feeling very seen today, frankly.
	I love it.
	But you know what I mean?
	They're rooted in very different Evangelical, if this makes sense, not just Christian, but just the evangelism part.
	They come from very different schools.
	Yeah, I think there's something to that, and I think that the kind of character that Alex has, the school that he comes from, is far closer to a performer.
	It belongs on a stage, whereas Russell's belongs tricking you into doing something.
	Yeah, in a very hot room and everybody's wearing, like, all white and, like, seated on the floor.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You expect, like, Russell to show up when you've been broken down and, like, the cult is ready to take you in, whereas Alex is like, maybe on day one you show up and he's screaming on a stage.
	Which I think that's just different strokes for different folks at the end of the day.
	I just think there's something so much, like I feel like Russell can meet the moment in a way that Alex can't.
	And I mean that in the worst possible way.
	I feel like Russell Brand is trying to sell me a timeshare.
	Yeah, but it's the timeshare from the Righteous Gemstones.
	It's Zion's Landing.
	It's like this kind of vaguely spiritual, you don't have to be Christian if you don't read the fine print.
	Like, once we get to Bali, the rules will change.
	But to get you to Bali, it's like, no, it's accepting and loving and everybody's, you know, in a wavelength and we're connecting our spirits, blah, blah, bleep, bleep.
	Yeah, that's, the Bali of it really, really kind of, I think, is where there's a bit of a dividing line.
	Because, like, Alex doesn't exist and doesn't work if there's no fight with the globalists.
	So, like, it's always going to be, uh, the globalists are in charge unless Trump is in charge, or, you know, it would have been the same if Ron Paul had won.
	And then the globalists deep state within the government are all sabotaging them.
	And that's gonna be it forever.
	That's going to be the way that things work out, because that's the only context he works in.
	I think Russell Brand works in a fake utopia, and Alex doesn't.
	Yeah, that sounds about right.
	And that's a bitch.
	I can't imagine an Alex Jones cult in the same kind of way.
	I can imagine an Alex Jones compound, but I can't imagine an Alex Jones cult where everyone's wearing a robe.
	Could be short-lived.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So with the compound.
	I mean, Alex hates his fans.
	And that's the thing is, Russell also hates his fans, but like, they'll still pay to get roasted in a guided meditation.
	Like, they want that little bit of roast, because that's actually entertaining, right?
	Like, because yeah, the Gish Gallop is, and I'm saying Gish Gallop, and I don't necessarily think that's exactly what he's doing.
	It's that kind of, that cult programming language.
	Oh my God, we talked about it.
	British fast talking.
	Yep.
	Yeah, so, um, no, Al, we talked about this, uh, I said Alex, I'm sorry.
	There's too many A-L words today.
	Um, I did not mean that.
	So, Al, so, neurolinguistic programming, oh my god, that's what I was looking for, right?
	It's that kind of, like, the cadence matters way more than the words.
	Yeah, and that's almost like the main point, not even putting... Yeah, I was working with Eddie Brill one week at Zany's.
	I believe that's Eddie Krill Oil.
	Yeah.
	Ooh, Eddie Brill Oil.
	That's my new character.
	I'm going to take that on the road.
	Eddie Brill.
	Um and it was it was just so much like we were the the middle act was his kid was his son his long lost son who he's reconnecting with through comedy amazing story fantastic right but we're both sitting there just watching him he's killing for an hour and we're both just like I have not heard him say one funny thing at all But the rhythm, the professionalism, he's been doing it for 30 years.
	He's one of those old guys.
	The way he stands on the stage is just different.
	It's just, this is how he is and people just respond to that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, Eddie Pepitone, I think we've, you know, mentioned already, but like we've seen him a number of times here when he's come through town.
	And yeah, he doesn't, he just has this kind of aura about him and he can ride the wave.
	It's riding the wave of energy and knowing how to navigate it, which these people also do not do.
	But Russell comes from that world of stand-up and stuff, whereas Alex doesn't.
	Alex comes from a- You've experienced some of that stand-up already.
	A patriot tradition.
	Yeah, screaming at, not writing with, at all.
	Yeah.
	Alex being a screaming out whereas, you know, Russell's riding the wave.
	I think we've assessed these two individuals do not gel particularly well in their styles.
	They both seemed very unhappy to be in the position they were in, yeah.
	Alex almost died!
	I won your audience, but I don't want to have to deal with you.
	Can we skip the middle bit?
	Oh dear.
	I've just got one thing to say, and that is... Seven.
	Seven.
	Alright, Dan and Jordan, thank you so much for joining us today.
	It's been a lot of fun for us.
	I imagine it's been like being A mild amount of torture for you, but thank you for being here anyway.
	I find it interesting to hear weirdos that are different, especially sitting next to Alex.
	So no, not too much torture.
	Good.
	And where can people find your show?
	InfoWars.com.
	Soon!
	Very soon!
	KnowledgeFight.com, sorry.
	Very soon, we're gonna get it.
	Also, you guys... I do think that actually should be... I do think that will... I think that'll happen.
	I think that's one that will happen.
	I think InfoWars.com will redirect to KnowledgeFight.com one day.
	I believe that.
	I believe it.
	I don't, but I like your idealism.
	In my heart of hearts, I believe one day.
	Well, thank you so much.
	You deserve that.
	You deserve the desk as well.
	You've been super generous with your time.
	Yeah, super grateful.
	Also, you guys have kind of become like the one piece of podcasts with you approaching like a thousand episodes to listen to.
	So where should people start listening to your show if they don't know it already?
	I don't know.
	Don't.
	Don't.
	It's too late.
	I knew it.
	I have no idea.
	There's no reason to start now.
	You get it.
	On our website, I think the recommended episode, it has been for a long time, was the one where a guy has a secret about Ronald Reagan.
	And I think that that might be... I don't know.
	I think it's been updated.
	I think a lot of people say that the formulaic objections, weirdly enough, are like, if you enjoy listening to us make fun of a deposition, you're in.
	The Roger Stone for Black Objections is a revisit for us whenever we go on road trips.
	Okay.
	That could be the litmus test then.
	If you listen to a Deposition episode, you might enjoy the show.
	Because it's inexplicable.
	Nobody should enjoy a Deposition.
	It's very shady.
	So shady.
	Oh my god.
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	We're going to be getting into some more election stuff.
	We're going to, I think, look at the debate between Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak just prior to the election happening over here on Independence Day, 4th of July.
	But for the rest of the year, we'll see you Thursday next week for the main show.
	Thank you, take care of yourselves.
	I feel guilty for how much I'm enjoying... I've been able to recreationally partake in the UK election cycle.
	Yeah, you've had some honorary British citizenship.
	I'm sorry I haven't so much.
	Four or five weeks.
	It's been a hoot.
	I'm really looking forward to this thing.
	I'm looking forward to the episode.
	This coming off-brand, I'm really looking forward to it.
	It'll be fun.
	And I'm sorry.
	It's not a nice thing about my character.
	No, it's okay.
	It's okay.
	November is coming and I'll get to enjoy that.
	So it's fair.
	All right.
	Take care of yourselves and each other.
	Thank you very much.
	We love you.
	Bye!
	That's not win-win-win.
	That's lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie.

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