We gained access to a Locals-exclusive special report Russell did about The Great Replacement conspiracy theory. Where does he land on it?
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Plainly, and this is a matter now of fact and record, I'm right wing.
I feel that Christ may have had a better vision.
Is this misinformation or is Vivek Ramaswamy in the lavatory?
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Is this Eminem?
Man, if we didn't come together in that stream.
I'm assuming it was just the Pete.
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I'm Al Worth, and each week I go through an episode of Brand's Show with my co-host, Lauren B. That's me, I'm Lauren B., and I am the co-host that has no idea what we're going to cover today, but history dictates it's usually kind of bad.
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Lauren, what is your good thing before the bad thing this week?
Mud!
Mud.
Stick with me.
Yeah, that's, see now I feel like I have a little gimmick and I'm a little pleased with it.
Ceramics, specifically.
I got to Yeah, we have just printmaker friends.
Hoofprint is a, you know, they have a print shop here in Chicago and our homies that are just treat me, treat us awesome and they're great people and they're super talented and they're like doing the thing you're supposed to do as like build community, like as an artist, right?
Like they do it, which is tight.
Uh and yeah I got to make and um I get to make plates yesterday as part of like Liz does ceramics and she does like screen printing on ceramics and like this whole and also like carving it's like Somehow it is printmaking adjacent, which is crazy.
And I know that sounds nuts too.
I bet there's two listeners that are like, yeah, and everyone else is like, printmaking is pictures.
What are you talking about?
But it's just very cool.
And actually, it's something that like, They've been really like enthusiastic about inviting me to work on stuff with them for like a long like we've been trying to get it together for like years because we're both really busy but also it's just I mean they're way busier than us with other things so it's like the few things we're busy for scheduling managers never and yeah actually it was right whenever we started the podcast
We were like kind of in progress to like start this project or start some projects and guess what happens when you start a podcast?
So actually it's cool that it's taken that like it's it's finally like Pick back up and it still happens, so I love that there's like, oh, we know in real time that it'll look like, oh, Lauren just made these, but actually, no, we have a paper trail of how long it's taken Lauren to get it back together to acknowledge and appreciate and enjoy and then follow through with this offer that, you know.
Really creative.
And also just making it work where all of us can be in a room.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Because it gets really hard.
So yeah, I made some plates and I'm gonna be carving some plates and painting some plates and blah-dee-blee-blue.
And I learned how to actually make them.
It was really, really cool.
Learning a new school is fantastic.
A new skill is fucking fantastic.
So cool.
That's what's up.
And yeah.
Potentially years long in the making kind of endeavor.
Hey, that's great!
Yeah!
And I think an idea that has been floating around way longer than that, even.
I hope this is fun for listeners to hear the tedious peek behind the curtain of like, this is what goes into the stuff that you buy from independent local artists.
Sometimes it will incubate for a decade or two before it actually comes to fruition.
So it's exciting.
Instagram doesn't really get that across.
You know what I mean?
No, no.
The amount of tedium required really for any art at all to be produced to a standard especially.
The amount of tedium, the amount of hours in the background that have gone into that is honestly a little bit absurd.
But it's where we are.
Yeah, that and the connection to like, oh, but you make shrines and like, I promise it's in the wheelhouse.
I promise.
And they're still there and they're cool and I like them and they're on the shop and that's another like that's also a hurdle that I like, you know, getting.
Like lining that stuff up.
It doesn't seem like a big deal.
I'm extremely happy with myself.
I'm still proud of myself that there's a shop that you can look at stuff and buy things.
So that's like just these little it seems little, but it's a big deal for me that they're like lining up.
So that's really cool.
Yeah.
And like also fun.
So yeah, yeah, that's uh, I think just dealing with logistics as an adult in general is difficult, let alone, like, putting- You don't say!
Additional projects in there, like, ooh, yeah.
Yeah.
Nice going.
But yeah, that's a thing, and I think it'll be, yeah, it's cool.
But yeah, again, I promise that shrines and plates, they also go together.
I promise.
Makes sense.
I look forward to it.
I look forward to it.
Well, it's your good thing!
Uh, my good thing is, um, okay, stick with me, um, but I, I, so I had to take- Don't take my bit!
No, no, no, no, I, I, so I, I, um, I had to take a journey, um, down to, uh, down to the south of the country, um, to, to see my daughter, cause like, Co-parenting when you're separated and all that, and long distance and all that stuff.
It's a whole affair.
And I was going down on public transport.
Which is fine, and you know, it takes longer and it's expensive, but it's fine everybody.
What was less fine was that I ended up, the journey was already gonna take like, I don't know, like five hours or something.
Ended up taking six and a half due to a couple of delays.
And I ended up having to get a rail replacement bus down almost the entire coast of Wales.
Which, you know, is an experience.
And I was determined not to be annoyed about it.
I was like, I'm not going to let this ruin my weekend or whatever.
It's going to be fine.
You also literally had no control.
I also have no control.
You kind of only could resign yourself to the extra hour in it.
Pretty much.
It's like I can be grumpy about it or I can try and see the positives in the situation I'm in.
And there were three things that I settled on.
Firstly, I was sat next to, for a good chunk of the journey, sat next to two little old Welsh ladies who were just speaking Welsh the entire time.
Which is actually something of a rarity in Wales.
Just people having conversations around the place in Welsh because English is such a dominant language.
Um, and so that was, that was really nice.
And you know, they, they talked about me a little bit and thought I couldn't understand them, but you know what?
It's okay.
Um, they were- What'd they say?
What'd they say?
What'd they say?
They were just, they were, they were commenting on, on just like, oh, what, what are they doing?
Um, and, and that I was, I was watching cartoons on my phone is, is, is what they described.
I was watching anime, is what I was doing.
Which leads me, and I'm not going to split hairs with two little old Welsh ladies about that.
Which leads me to my second thing, which was that on this particular bus, on some of the new buses that Transport for Wales have, There was like a little panel on the back and you know it had like a USB port and you know it's got like flip down tray and cup holder and all that the stuff you expect and then there was a little round circle with it with a lightning on it and I was like huh I wonder so put my phone up to it and sure enough started charging my phone but it wasn't magnetic so I was like huh
Yes, so it's led to a moment of confusion for me being like well hang on a second I surely I need this to stay there I can't just hold it and then I realized I poked there was like a little line underneath it with a couple of ridges and I poked that and it flipped down for you to just nestle your phone in there horizontally and then it just kind of gently pushes it up to the the little circle with the lightning on it so it can charge your phone and the phone goes horizontally so you can watch stuff just in front of you while your phone charges while you're on the bus.
And I was like, this is just incredible.
See, it went from stupid to brilliant.
Yeah!
That was my journey I just had.
I was like, this is delightful.
I'm so happy right now.
And so yeah, I just put my headphones in and I just sat there, arms crossed, just like enjoying some anime, you know?
And don't get me wrong, on the Welsh coast the signal is not that great, but there was only like maybe 10 minutes total where things were buffering.
And I was like, you know what?
This is not bad.
Well, I know we were all waiting with bated breath, just hoping that you didn't miss 10 minutes of anime on your trip.
I know, right?
I'm so relieved to hear.
Thank you, thank you.
About the signal on the Welsh Con.
Well, it's important.
We are generally behind the times in Wales.
And the third thing that you cannot help but notice when taking that journey is just how fucking beautiful a country I happen to live in and be from.
It is Gorgeous.
And it was a lovely thing because the kind of road that the bus was going down for the most part was the one that was right on the edge of the coast.
And so you were just looking at beach and cliffs and bluffs and like the odd field that some farmer has the stones to tend, you know, that's like, if you go too far, you fall off the country.
But no, no, they're out there somehow making it work.
And I was like, oh, this is just great.
OK, that's fantastic.
That sounds like an expensive tour you'd pay for.
Like, that sounds like a tour you'd pay for on purpose.
Yeah, there we go.
I've seen that kind of thing advertised to me quite a bit, and I'm like, we drive.
I don't need to pay you to see the thing, but you got it as a bonus.
I don't know, that sounds kind of nice.
Yes, yes, I got it purely by accident.
Yeah, yeah, kind of.
Definitely, definitely saw the shiny side of that particular, the silver lining of that cloud, you know?
And it was daytime, right?
Daytime Friday?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thursday.
Thursday, right, right, right, okay.
Yeah, because like at night, bummer.
Yeah yeah that yeah at night when it's cloudy which it almost always is in Wales um yeah that that would that would have been impossible but no it was it was a sunny day as well like a bit of rain but also sun you know so it's like ah great fantastic Oh dear.
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Take it away, Lauren.
Well, it's not much of an update.
It's more of a frustrating stasis, right?
Like, it's more of a frustrating non-update update.
So the gal that came forward as Alice, I don't know if it's a different name or the same name from, or, you know, What's the... It's not a nom de plume.
You know, kind of a... Pseudonym!
Pseudonym!
Thank you!
Yeah, the pseudonym to protect her identity.
I think she came forward in 2009.
Yeah, there was an article on The Guardian last week, and some of you probably saw it too.
I don't really look at the subreddit because I can't... I have to go into this cold, so I don't get to like...
I try not to be contaminated but the fact that the word Russell Brand is in my phone sometimes because I am on this show it still managed to find me and I was concerned that we hadn't really addressed or covered it but yeah basically she was trying to Get something done about like her she's like coming forward she's trying to be heard she's trying to kind of like add her voice and essentially accused like Channel 4 um I think more so the response she got from Channel 4 because you know end of the documentary which again if you're new here um please go back to you know like our coverage or if you have access to coverage in your country watch the whole thing
Read the article, however you can access it.
It's really important to know what's going on in the background with Russell, especially because she feels like she just has been snubbed again, and it sounds like she's been re-traumatized.
Anyway, there's an article in The Guardian that I read by Josh Halliday, I think it was last week, and I'm really I'm fucking disappointed that she's getting kind of like pushed aside and swept under the rug and you know they're the platitudes that they're saying public at responding to her publicly is like
Like, well, we're doing our thing.
We're doing our best.
Like, man, come on.
Like, it's really hard to hear how stagnated she feels and re-traumatized and, you know, like still, like...
The fact that she had to come and try to be public about, I mean, also great for the Guardian, great for, I think there's Hollywood Reporter too did some coverage, like, great for them for giving her any amount of a platform.
I mean, it's tough, like, you know, we have like, we have a little show.
And, um, I wish we had the clout, the platform to make a stink for her.
It's almost like if she came on and said something to us, if she wanted to, obviously that's super cool.
It's kind of not likely.
And, like, it would almost, like, we don't have as much reach as the Guardian.
It would seem, like, maybe a little fishy.
Like, we don't need to make her life even harder by, like, oh, we're gonna do this.
Like, let's get it out there.
Let's bother her to do it.
Yes.
-Yes. -That'd be awful.
That'd be awful.
I wish we had--
I wish we had leverage to--
I mean, I'm doing what I can right now.
This is what I can do.
And I want to bring attention to, like, if this article is getting published,
maybe more victims will come forward and we'll get more eyes on this story
because it's fucking serious.
I'm part of hanging out yesterday with friends that like, you know, we see each other whenever we can, but sometimes You know, like, literally duty called.
Like, work makes it difficult.
And one of the first things that my friend was just like, I tried to Google Russell Brand and this shit swept under the rug.
What the fuck?
I'm like, I know!
Like, you're telling me!
I know!
And she's like, it's crazy.
He's like, did I say that that's what would happen?
What did I say?
What did I say?
And she's like, I know, it's fucked up!
And so, you know, man.
It sucks!
It's crazy, but it does make me feel less crazy to have another adult human in America saying, like, it just went away.
I'm so frustrated that this thing happened and went away, especially in light of, like, quiet on set, all that stuff.
Like, I'm sorry.
Is this different?
Barely.
Right, right!
And exactly what everyone is like freaking out about Quiet On Set, totally reasonable, completely justified.
It should be a shitstorm.
And I'm fucking frustrated that Russell just skated by again!
I cannot let this happen!
Not just that, he's failed upwards again.
He's achieving way more success than he was before.
Fuck!
Fuck!
It's yeah, no, it's fucking infuriating and then like even over here in the country where it was a big fucking deal for at least a couple of weeks Yeah, like nobody gives a shit.
You know that I mentioned I was talking to someone the other week and they were like Oh, yeah, I had something about you know, it's like What do you even do?
I don't know what the solution is.
And it's not even just us, you know?
Conspiratuality has been trying, like, there are other big platforms, and maybe reaching out to them is a good idea, you know?
And I don't know, it still kind of feels like, you know, we can, but it still just feels like, oh, podcast to podcast, maybe let's do a collabo, whereas if you, listener, Uh-oh.
If you listener are... I'm saying mm-mm about my throat going dry while I'm trying to finish the thought.
Yeah, that's what you get for trying to talk frog, right?
That's what happens.
That's exactly right.
It comes back to bite you.
You get a case of the Kermits, I know.
So yeah, but that's, you know what I mean?
Listeners, if you want to reach out, you use your voice.
They can take you seriously too.
Just help these folks out.
It's fucking heartbreaking.
I mean and also like I get it I completely get it been there get it on this tiny you know like I've I've I've felt uh you know forgotten about and I've forgot I've felt frustrated trying to get anything done and just watching somebody just Just to pirouette through pop culture unphased and it just sucks.
It just sucks.
So, I don't know.
Honestly, that's the big thing.
My heart just breaks for what she's going through.
So definitely at least read the article.
Yeah!
Hear her out.
Share it.
Try to amplify.
Comment.
Do the kind of activism that you are able to do.
Whatever's within your capacity.
It's helpful.
And, you know, we'll keep doing the show and we're not going to let go of this at any point.
This is not going to drop off our radar.
That's for sure.
At the very least.
Kind of the most important thing.
It's sort of at the top of the list, at least for me.
Yeah, certainly.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say so.
You know, the literal crimes kind of, that takes precedent, generally speaking.
Yeah.
I'm surprised that you didn't get, you know, like that you didn't, it didn't cross your, you know, hove across.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I, well, well again, that's, that's kind of the state of, um, of media over here and everything's just kind of, you know, you have to go actively looking, um, for, for all of it.
Um, now, which is, uh, yeah, yeah, that's a problem.
Um, but, uh, but yeah, let's keep tabs everybody.
And, um, Agitate and do what you can, I guess.
Agitate, yeah, and share.
Yeah, 100%.
So, this week we do have something a little bit special, which is fitting for our 50th episode.
I do like to celebrate arbitrary round numbers wherever possible, though I doubt the subject we're going to be covering is cause for celebration.
Now, if you remember, Lauren, I have a few times put out feelers asking if there were any former Awakened Wonders who had subscribed to Russell's Locals channel with an annual fee, later realized he's a lying grifter, and subsequently have a subscription that is more or less useless to them.
This was of course with the aim of poking around and being able to see what really goes on back there and in the Locals chat.
And well, it's paid dividends because thanks to a benefactor who wishes to remain anonymous, for at least a short while we have full unfettered access to the entirety of Russell's Locals channel.
Yes, we are in everybody.
It's What great terrible news.
It's a blurss.
We are back to being blurssed.
Further, if you'll recall not that long ago, Russell suggested that even members of the Legacy Media should get a subscription to his local's channel so they could report on it.
Now, neither of us are Legacy Media by any stretch of the imagination, nor are we journalists in profession, but our endeavour is at least journalistic in nature, and so I decided we should really take Russell up on his offer.
Particularly as he's been doing some slightly more mask-off videos exclusive to his local's channel.
And particularly because, within the last few weeks, he did a video about this.
Hey, we're talking about displacement theory today because of this comment.
Well, you asked, we answered.
Here it is.
Now, he said displacement theory there, but on the screen it says replacement theory.
And the title of the locals video is, Is the Great Replacement Theory True or Bullshit?
Below that is the caption, quote, Amid record high levels of illegal immigration in both America and the UK, discussions surrounding the Great Replacement Theory have intensified.
Is there any validity to this controversial conspiracy theory?
Unquote.
I found a piece of red fabric.
RED FLAG!
RED FLAG!
RED FLAG FACTORY!
Oh no!
That's right.
But also, how fucking slippery is it?
Who knows?
You haven't seen anything yet.
You want slippery?
We're about to fucking see slippery.
What do you know?
Hello everybody!
Sorry to interrupt your listening experience.
So in this moment here, I went into the link provided by the original commenter as to, you know, why Russell is covering this at all, and kind of went down a little bit of a rabbit hole of the Current immigration system and issues surrounding that, which, you know, we chatted for a good kind of 20 minutes on this subject, which is relevant and is worth talking about, but is not
Russell doesn't actually end up covering any of it, any of the things that the person asked for, which I mean, that's characteristic of Russell, right?
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to move that discussion to the end of the show.
So by all means, stick around for that, because it is important and it is worth talking about.
But but I thought we should we should get into some fun, great replacement stuff with Russell.
So I hope that's OK.
For the uninitiated, the Great Replacement Theory is very simply the idea that the white race is being watered down by all these pesky brown people who keep coming into white countries, and usually the brown people are supposed to be coming in at the behest of the Jews, or the Democrats, or the Globalists, or whatever, with the eventual aim of replacing the white race by making everyone brown.
It is worth noting the only people I have seen calling it the displacement theory, like Russell did, are those who are entirely on board with it.
And even if we don't level that accusation at Russell just yet, it does tell us pretty clearly where he's getting his information from and who he is pandering to in this piece.
Right.
Now, obviously, we know Russell platforms a lot of people who spout Great Replacement Theory nonsense, most recently and prominently Charlie Kirk, and Russell does sign on to at least some of the surrounding ideology, but he's characteristically slippery enough for it to be difficult to decisively pin him down.
With that in mind, I saw this video and I thought, great, I can get a simple answer to where Russell stands on the issue.
Oh, so I thought.
What we're about to experience is an exercise in mental gymnastics, sidestepping issues, and ultimately raising the stakes on the conspiracy to such an abstract view that it nearly loses all meaning.
Which, hey, it's fun everybody, let's go.
With all that said and the groundwork laid, let's get into Russell's explanation of what the Great Replacement Theory is.
So this is Russell's explanation of what it is.
Hello there, you awakened wonder.
Thank you so much for being a member of our community.
Thank you for being a supporter of our content and our movement.
This is exactly the type of content that this platform was designed for.
We're talking about something that is extremely controversial.
The Great Replacement Theory.
The idea that mass migration is an attempt by globalist elites to destabilize native populations Weird how there was not a single mention of race there, given that it is the main point of the Great Replacement Theory, one would argue.
have it, disruptive, non-native elements. Now, this is perhaps the idea that defines
much of what is known as the alt-right.
Weird how there was not a single mention of race there, given that it is the main point
of the Great Replacement Theory, one would argue. I might say it's conspicuous in its
absence, you know?
Well, I mean, I like that there are a lot of black creators, creators of colour that
are calling out, at least what I can observe from my newsfeed, that DEI is just another
way to say the N-word.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's a very innocuous phrase.
So, groups.
Groups is used, that word groups is used a lot to avoid saying something potentially incendiary.
And if anybody's going to be a slippery fish, it's going to be Russell.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
So according to Russell, the Great Replacement Theory is the idea that mass migration is an attempt by globalist elites to destabilize native populations with a mass influx of potential cheap labor And disruptive non-native elements, which is a phrase that never gets explained, by the way.
But, you know, we can all hear it.
We can hear the whistle going.
So from the outset, we've completely reframed this to being basically purely an economic issue, somehow actually having nothing to do with the issue of race at all.
Great.
Well, they're disruptive.
So they're already bad.
A hundred percent.
That's exactly it.
Oh, we solved it.
Cool.
Now, from here, Russell presents what appears to be nuance.
Here we will discuss whether or not migration is an issue, as it seems to be in the United States of America.
The ethics of the subject of immigration.
Let me just give you a Brief overview of my own take on that.
What is our requirement to be compassionate to refugees and legal migration when many of the nations that experience mass migration have participated in colonialism, imperialism, resource wars that destabilize populations and through the elite establishment corporations affiliated with their nations profit and plunder many nations Perhaps even specifically nations from which there's mass migration.
Now I know like in your country, the United States of America, there's say for example a lot of Venezuelan migration or perhaps you might say Mexican migration.
There are statistics available of course to assess which particular nations these migrants come from.
But what are the geopolitical relationships and commercial relationships between the United States and those nations?
Okay.
Okay.
I'm listening.
He just outlined the reasons why we should be accountable and we as a country and all colonial imperial powers.
Have a duty to try to rectify any amount of the damage that we caused.
That's what he's referencing, right?
Right!
I'm on board with it so far and I can only imagine it has your heckles up because literally every single time we've ever agreed with him it goes up to a certain point before taking a sharp turn to the right.
While I think both of us do support the notion of viewing immigration from a perspective of historic colonialism, imperialism, and capitalism, one might wonder precisely where he's going with this.
So, Russell continues his point in the next clip.
And we'll be looking at the idea that the elites, as we'll call them, are continually benefiting by pitting ordinary poor people from countries around the world and domestic populations against one another in a classic divide-and-conquer mentality that has prevailed since the advent of imperialism 500 years ago or even longer.
So let's have a look at some videos on Great Replacement Theory.
Let's try to consider it from the perspective of including a compassionate perspective on people from around the world who have been displaced.
The idea that global elite might not tell you the absolute truth about the subject of migration and the right of any population to involve in referenda in order to establish what they consider to be acceptable within the boundaries of what they are told is their own nation.
Little red flag there.
What they're told is... Where's the red flag, Lauren?
Wave!
Wave!
What they're told is their own nation!
Yeah, yeah.
What?!
Yeah, that little sentence just makes my hair stand on end a little bit, but the rest of it was kind of okay.
Like, yeah, let's look at this from a perspective of class warfare as well.
Okay, if that's... I'm being very generous, but that's definitely something that should be examined.
So from here, Russell plays a portion of video from elsewhere.
So let's take a look and keep an ear out for a familiar voice on the subject of Great Replacement.
On May 14th, 2022, the world reeled with horror at the news of another mass shooting in the US.
Ten killed, three injured after a mass shooting in a Buffalo supermarket.
Saturday shooting in Buffalo, New York.
A Buffalo mass shooting.
The shooter outlined his motivations in an unusually detailed 180-page manifesto.
In it, he wrote about the Great Replacement Theory.
The Great Replacement Theory.
Great Replacement Theory.
But he wasn't the first.
The shooter in Pittsburgh, El Paso and Poway, California all mentioned this unfounded conspiracy.
Its claims are now discussed in the U.S.
mainstream media.
The Biden administration has, from the very beginning, used immigration to change the demographic mix of our country.
And many Republican politicians have alluded to it.
Democrat politicians who have decided that they can't win re-election in 2022 unless they bring in a large number of new voters.
This is not just a US phenomenon.
Quite the contrary.
Anders Breivik in Norway.
The Christchurch New Zealand.
The shootings in Germany.
It is absolutely the case that all of these shootings are related to the Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory.
Versions of the same trope have been spreading for decades.
This is age-old politics, right?
This is nothing new.
They have become a staple of the global far-right.
One of the arguments you'll hear advanced in right-wing online spaces is that why is it that nations like America or Anglo-Saxon nations like this one don't have the same rights, conservative or otherwise, to preserve their own cultures and traditions that we might be expected to afford to other nations?
And of course, the global dynamic would be there's this imperialist history of nations like the United Kingdom or France, and there's the current colonialist imperialist endeavours, the endless foreign wars of a nation like the
United States of America. But when it comes to the idea that people have a right to practice
their own traditions and to live their own lives and to have their own communities, I think that
that must be separated from the idea that to have an idea of your own identity, your own
religion, your own culture is immediately racist. To claim that social monoculture with superficial
diversity is the only way to organise a country is in itself a kind of bigotry and prejudice that
happens to advance elitist interests.
Ah, yeah.
I quit.
What else am I gonna do?
What do I have to say?
I'm so angry.
Listeners, I'm really sorry.
I gave you homework and I don't have anything to say.
I'm shitty at my job today.
Jesus fucking Christ.
I'm so mad.
But also, the thing is, I'm waiting for the other shoe.
The shoe kind of Rolled a little bit.
I was waiting for the shoe to drop and you're right in calling out that he's being incredibly slippery because there's all these little pieces and parts to put in between what is gonna be the big bad idea.
You can kind of see it forming, can't you?
You can see little building blocks just being put in place.
My stomach sure can.
The pit of it, my pancreas, knows that something's wrong.
Something in my belly button area is very upset right now.
Very upset.
As it should be.
Because, yeah, we're not being racist.
The people with elitist interests, or the elites, one might call them, are actually being racist against us, all because we want to maintain our national culture and identity.
That's all it really is, and racism doesn't even come into it.
Okay, Russell.
Well, he's just automatically racist.
It's a no you are but what am I?
I don't hear a logical reason for it, he just said it so it's true?
But I'm sure that his target audience, it fleshes out for them, no problem.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Also, he just got finished saying how colonialist and imperialist countries will naturally have a more diverse population because of those things, and now he's painting it all as, quote, a social monoculture with superficial diversity.
That phrase there bothers me.
Superficial diversity implies two things.
First, that the diversity that exists isn't really diverse at all, and secondly, that said diversity did not occur naturally, that it was somehow, one might say, enforced upon a pre-existing culture, you know?
So, yeah.
Is it me or are we- Superficial div- like, that's fucked.
Yeah, are we sounding a little bit Great Replacement-y?
And final point from this clip here is that he just does not address any of the video that played.
In fact...
It's weird and it becomes abundantly clear that the video was cut and put in after the fact because Russell never actually responds directly to literally any of it.
We have more clips of this and I had half a mind... He's done that before.
Yeah, yeah, this feels different.
And I had half a mind to remove the segments with the video because he doesn't address them, but I'm leaving it in for the sake of both accuracy of our presentation of this and I do have a little point to make in just a little bit.
Anyway, from here we get another tiny portion of video before Russell leaps into some class analysis.
Great.
You will not replace us!
"The Jews will not replace us!"
and have found a home in European politics.
"Again, it demonstrates in the same way that the pandemic does and the ongoing Ukraine-Russia
conflict does, that the governing and managerial class have a different set of interests and
requirements from the people that they manage and govern.
If ordinary working people of all colours and religions, particularly in countries like the United States of America and the UK, which of course have diverse populations, the economic interests of blue-collar people or working-class people differ from the managerial class.
It's very interesting, isn't it, to note that often the liberal ideology of being supportive of migration, to which I am sympathetic, does not acknowledge that it is different communities that are ultimately impacted economically and socially by migration.
And it is disruptive to radically alter social demographics over a short period of time, simply because it's radical change and all radical change is difficult and disruptive.
Mmm, okay.
So the immigration taking place in the U.S.
is radical change to social demographics taking place in a short space of time, and all radical change is disruptive.
Therefore, the immigration in the U.S.
is itself disruptive.
I mean, he laid it out, Lauren.
How can I argue?
Our Democratic Vice President said, do not come.
She said, do not come.
Sounds like overwhelming Democrat support.
Democratic-liberal support for immigration.
Do not come.
Do not come.
Okay.
Yep.
Oh man.
Oh, I'm heated.
And to Russell's point, I do want to stress that in terms of percentage of population who are immigrants, current figures are roughly the same as they were in 2010.
The number of immigrants is increasing, but so is the number of people born in the US, so it kind of balances back out again percentage-wise.
To really nail down Russell's idea of radical change in a short space of time, it requires getting him to define terms like radical and short space of time, and we know from experience he's not a details kind of guy, you know?
So as much as I'd love to really Really drill down on what he thinks he's saying.
That, yeah, yeah, a little bit tough.
We also get the classic concept that, aha, migration has more of an economic effect on ordinary working people than it does the, quote, managerial class.
Now, there are legions of studies to show that immigration has little to no effect on wages or unemployment figures, with wage elasticity due to immigration being an average of 0.2% in either direction depending on the study and unemployment figures being very similar.
In the UK, I saw one that noted a difference of about one and a half pence per year.
Though, of course, these things are famously difficult to study with huge evidence gaps and definitions can be difficult to work with.
The consensus is that there are barely any negative or positive differences made to either wages or employment by immigration.
There is, however, a legion of right-wing media outlets who will tell you otherwise, painting your own economic problems once again as being the fault of Johnny Forerunner, rather than pointing the finger at the inherently unequal, unjust and unfair capitalist system we all live under.
And they also don't have access to public resources.
That's a talking point that drives me absolutely fucking crazy.
Any kind of notion of a drain on our economy is just a straight up lie.
Let me tell you, it's hard for citizens To access entitlement programs that we fucking pay for.
Because guess what?
We also have to pay our taxes regardless of the situation we're in.
And if we don't have to pay taxes, there's a good reason that has to be signed off on by the IRS.
So the notion that there is a drain of any kind and that they have access to public services, which I read into his kind of like chaos theory, in reality, Undocumented workers pay billions of dollars in taxes, which not only implies that they are, in fact, subsidizing citizens, they are also not benefiting from programs.
And the IRS knows about it.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Who's hiring the workers?
Are we not going to address them at all?
The managerial class.
Okay, I don't want to engage with his completely fabricated reality.
I'm not comfortable engaging with this reality that is so far from the truth and from what's actually happening.
I don't even want to give the fake claims that he's making any kind of credence or air.
Yeah, and I do understand that, and they're the exact kind of things that you would see in right-wing media outlets.
It's the exact same kind of things.
It is curious that Russell is parroting the talking points of the rich.
How strange he isn't advocating for the idea that maybe he, as one of the world's richest people, should be taxed a bit more than those of us who struggle at times to afford food.
Strange how he's not.
Because I feel like that should be in his wheelhouse but no.
Now in the next clip Russell gets into a source.
So far we can see that part of the problem is the immediate condemnation as racist anyone who has concerns about migration without considering that perhaps they have a different set of priorities and maybe live their life according to a different criteria.
Here's an information on US immigration that is I think significant and ought be considered.
The United States is expected This figure represents a 167% surge in five years and underscores the challenges faced by what is both an underfunded and antiquated immigration system.
The vast majority of the 8 million migrants are now free to roam US streets, including 2 million high priority cases of career criminals seeking asylum.
The system appears to be struggling to cope with the rapid numbers of migrants flown across the border, which reached an all-time high of 302,000 monthly crossings in December.
That is a significant number for a population to deal with, and I feel to simply dismiss the concerns of a native population that are suffering from increased grocery prices, increased fuel prices, a very difficult pandemic period, the poor handling of the 2008 financial crash, escalating global wars, is disingenuous.
Uh-huh.
Sorry, can we get back to the two million high-profile career criminals entering the US?
Yeah, yeah, let's.
As though that's something that would just, you know, go unnoticed.
It'll be taken as read.
Seems correct, Daily Mail.
Thank you.
Well, that's also a talking point that's been making its rounds.
And on Decoding Fox News, she recently, like, Well, not recently.
On the reg.
I was trying to think of one reference, and I'm like, oh no, there's a bunch.
Okay.
Laura Ingraham specifically on Fox News talks about the criminality of migrants.
First, and all of the government, both parties of the government, overwhelmingly if not entirely, You're a criminal if you're trying to migrate, so already instantly, oop, loophole, you're a criminal.
So a career criminal could be that you miss an appointment and you're trying to get in.
Or that you are waiting where they told you to wait and you have one toe on the America side, not the Mexico side.
career criminal. The qualification for what is a career criminal is explicitly
explained in other parts of the right-wing, you know, infosphere.
And Russell's relying on them to fill in the gaps for him so he can sound nice. Oh,
absolutely. Absolutely.
So the first thing to address is obviously, you know, Russell needs a source to confirm his perspective and he has to go to right-wing sites to find it.
The Daily Mail is a shitty tabloid that could make even the boldest sensationalist blush, so it's no surprise we get some pretty insane reporting from them.
Like, two million career criminals.
I'm like, wow, this is an exciting read, you know?
If nothing else, it is exciting.
The actual figures they appear to be using are ones supposedly obtained by Axios, who claim them to be internal government projections.
Or rather, the eight million figure is.
As for what Axios had to say about the two million figure, quote, An estimated 2 million of the migrants in the backlog likely will be high-priority cases, mostly those who have orders to be deported to their home countries, and some with criminal records or pending criminal charges, according to the documents."
Ah, okay.
We're back in reality.
That sounds...
One toe in America, pending criminal charges.
Right.
And the problem with this kind of reporting is Axios haven't shared these documents in their article, and so we can't exactly check the validity of them or scrutinize the methodology that might have been applied in any way.
I do know the figures are supposed to have come from ICE, who aren't necessarily the most trustworthy organization in the universe when it comes to immigration statistics.
Definitely not.
So, big chunk of salt.
Nonetheless, even if the predictions in the figures are accurate, because they are predictions, that 167% increase across five years in those documented to be seeking asylum is paired with a sharp decrease in unauthorized entry to the US.
Border patrol encounters in the summer of 2023 were down by 55% compared to 2022.
And the number of migrants trying to gain unauthorized entry to the U.S.
from places like Haiti and Venezuela were down 95% and remain in that direction.
The southern border has obviously undergone a significant crisis since that time, but the figures are expected to go back down again, and so the question must be asked whether migration on the whole appears to have sharply increased, and it most certainly has not.
It still sits at just over a million migrants into the U.S.
per year.
And well, here's the other thing.
These people are asylum seekers.
They're not economic migrants.
They're refugees fleeing their homes and they must be able to demonstrate they meet the criteria for being a refugee, which includes demonstrating persecution or probability of future persecution in their home countries.
If they don't meet that criteria, they get sent home, which happens in the lion's share of cases.
I don't know if it's the majority, but also there's enough of them in limbo where it's very difficult to make any kind of definitive claims or assessments.
I wonder why.
Yup.
The statistics and the source that Russell is using, they're designed to scare you.
They're designed to create anxiety and fear of migrants coming into your country, to turn you against those in need, specifically.
And he mentioned earlier the idea of people at the top turning working class people against each other, and that is exactly what he is engaging in here, as is the Daily Mail.
That's the entire purpose.
It's hate your neighbor, not the person above you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a delightful little piece of him.
Well, that's not how he's making it sound either.
No, no, it is not.
No, it is not.
He makes it appear as though he is talking from a place of empathy and compassion.
And all he's doing is regurgitating bile from these places.
Now, Russell appears to be reaching at least a halfway conclusion in the next clip.
So, while at the moment there doesn't seem to be concrete evidence that it is a deliberate global theory, you can certainly see how an influx of migration has a detrimental and significant impact on one portion of the population while barely affecting other demographics.
And of course, cynically, one could say that it directly benefits the Democrats because the migrants are more likely to vote in that direction.
At least that's the assumption.
And of course, it's beneficial for global corporatist interests because these are the very kind of people that will be working low paid non-union jobs.
At, for example, Amazon packing and distribution factories.
It seems that low-cost labour will be the obvious option for many of the people that are entering these nations illegally, as well as, many will argue, claiming various forms of welfare that similarly place a strain on the nation in general.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
Welfare strain as well.
What'd I say?
What'd I say?
Billions of tax dollars and they get nothing in return.
Yep.
Nothing.
There are huge restrictions to anyone migrating to the US, or the UK for that matter, on what kind of welfare they can receive.
If any, most likely nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He is- It's crazy.
They're afraid to vote, if they can at all.
That is an actual problem on the ground.
And the thing is, in Chicago specifically, this is a conversation that is happening and is addressed as a reality by at least a lot of activists and some people in the government that are very stressed out all the time and desperately trying to do anything good.
So they're afraid to Engage in any governmental institution, including voting.
And if they are in any way allowed to vote because of... I mean, they're not.
But also...
The claim that they vote liberal or they vote left is also, like, the numbers do not bear that out.
New migrants that do vote, and this is mostly, like, you know, numbers from, like, Latin countries, like, Latino community is notoriously voting conservative.
Look who the conservatives, like, the votes that they court!
They know!
It benefits Republicans, at least in a lot of areas where there's a lot of... Obviously, that is a blanket statement.
I'm not claiming a blanket statement.
I don't know how else to explain it.
But it's also just not fucking true that they're going to vote Democrat.
And that's the numbers!
It really, I mean, a lot of it, yeah, depends on where people are from, their own personal values.
Yeah, if they've got more conservative values, then... Okay, well, that's, I mean, yeah.
No, that's what I'm saying, like, statistically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Established.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
I mean, in California, they're more likely to vote Democrat, according to what I could see.
But, you know, it's California.
It's also a very left-wing kind of place.
But yeah, like a hefty chunk vote Republican and a hefty chunk vote Democrat, from what I could see.
Okay.
Yes, I went searching for this and went down rabbit holes of studies, and honestly, the methodology of a lot of them did not seem particularly great.
Certainly nowhere near enough to be conclusive.
And because of just how difficult it is to kind of track, because this is always a part of the conversation is, oh, you know, they're supporting the left.
And you're like, well, yeah, but are they?
They're not.
They're not.
Because also, they're afraid to vote at all.
They do not have access at all.
Mike's signature was kinda weird, and his vote got thrown out.
Right.
Like, listen, it's not easy to fake a vote, and if you do not have legal status, it is difficult to access voting at all.
So yeah, there's a lot of numbers that just aren't there.
So who's claiming the numbers are, like, that they have any data?
They don't.
Yeah, no, he doesn't provide a source.
In fact, I think Russell said that's the assumption, is what he said.
And yes, that is the assumption, isn't it, of a lot of people who you tend to speak to, Russell.
Yeah, yeah.
I already mentioned that migration has remarkably little impact on wages or unemployment.
He did bring that up there.
So his idea of placing the nation under strain is completely inaccurate.
But also, so is his idea of where migrants tend to find work.
According to the Census Bureau, in 2022 the educational and health services industry employed the most immigrant workers, 5.2 million, or 18.2% of all foreign-born employees in the U.S.
This is followed by professional and business services at 4.3 million, and construction at 3.3 million.
So those are legal migrants?
Yes!
With legal status, not the people they're talking about.
Well, the numbers he's using are legal ones.
He's using legal numbers.
Oh, so that's not even what he's talking about.
Yeah, exactly.
In terms of legal migrants, there are more migrants in educational and health services than there are manufacturing and leisure and hospitality put together, and about three million are in wholesale and retail trade.
I do bring up this point to point out just how skewed Russell's perspective is to the right.
He seems to believe there are droves of, you know, unskilled laborers coming in across the southern border, which paints an incredibly one-dimensional picture of migrants as unskilled and or stupid by inference, which does then completely lean into the eugenicist concept that all these brown people coming in are inferior to the native whites.
I use the phrase native loosely.
Yeah, yeah.
To almost not be native at all!
The whites that happen to be here longer, maybe.
Yes, yes.
So at this point he's saying there's not necessarily concrete evidence of the Great Replacement being an orchestrated theory by some shadowy people at the top, but he is saying that all these migrants are a problem.
Now from here we get a brief segment of video.
So the great replacement, and I always say conspiracy theory because it is not true, is the idea that white people are being Purposefully replaced by non-white people.
It was George Orwell that said that the British working class is now in India to acknowledge that the textile industry had moved from northern towns in Lancashire and Yorkshire to various territories across the colonial and occupied territory of India.
That was a kind of replacement.
I mean, I'd call it a kind of enforced economic slavery, but sure, Russell, it was a replacement.
Also super current reference to geopolitics and economics.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah, it's so incredibly jarring that he just has absolutely nothing to say on the subject of race in this video.
Which is the very foundation of the Great Replacement Theory.
There's a video of that lady talking about it and then nothing.
It really rubs me up the wrong way.
Yeah, let's let him finish his point about economics and labor being exported.
Now, the culture and racial identity of working people in your country and my country vary, but our interests, our, their, I reckon I don't live in that class anymore, their interests are the same, or at least comparable.
But you can see that the critiques of this idea very much focus on race, which additionally adds another layer of division.
And making this a taboo subject also increases tension and hostility around it.
Ah, so the talking about race and making the Great Replacement Theory supposedly taboo adds division and hostility to the subject, which otherwise wouldn't be there, apparently.
And so, really, the people talking about racism just want to divide and conquer us.
You know, they're the problem.
They're the ones making it racist, Lauren.
Yeah.
Listeners, I'm sorry.
If you're watching, you're getting... Listeners, you can imagine.
I'm trying to keep it together.
You can imagine.
We're getting a lot of staring into middle distance.
I'm feeling dramatic.
I'm annoying myself.
I don't understand.
Oh, this is so... Oh, boy.
Wow.
Okay.
It's justified.
It's justified.
Also, for a taboo subject, a lot of Russell's guests seem to like talking about it.
You know, Tucker Carlson, whose voice we heard at the start there, being one of the biggest proponents for the Great Replacement Theory, formerly on national television, you know?
It kind of seems like people talk about it all the time.
All the time!
All the time!
All the time.
But that's the thing.
That's what people are saying about DEI.
That's the thing.
It's like constantly.
Just last week.
All the time.
And we talked about this yesterday.
It's so easy to talk about if there's nuance and people that are having a conversation in good faith.
And of course my friends are probably going to agree with me.
Sure.
What we do as whites is we get together and we try our best to acknowledge the privilege that we have, even if it doesn't feel like a lot.
And we discuss how, like...
Our experiences and how to do better for ourselves and the world around us.
That's like, it's like a fun, nice thing that I do with people in my life.
I take that very fucking seriously.
And because we can...
We have not been through it.
It is not our fight as an individual.
And so we're not here to take that from anyone else, but we can all relate to being disenfranchised and feeling disempowered in a situation arbitrarily, right?
And so we've all been told to keep our head down, Maybe it's framed as be the bigger person.
Maybe it's framed as just let it go until- let it go is the big one.
The fucking big one.
Why do I get mad about let it go?
Because of this.
Elsa has a lot to answer for.
Okay.
I wish it started then.
Oh, I wish.
Right?
Is to just maintain the status quo for now and it'll get better later, I promise.
It's just too hard to handle now.
And I mean, anyone on the queer spectrum, that is very often what parents say is like, I don't want you to have a bad life.
Without question, like, I don't want you to As they say, explore this lifestyle, enter this lifestyle, be this person because I know life is going to be harder for you and I don't want that and think that somehow they can just magically make their kids go away.
Kid, partner, friend, whatever.
For the sake of mainstaining the status quo, it's a status quo warrior.
So we're doing status quo warrior.
DEI is the problem because they are calling attention to inequity is also an argument I hear all the time.
It's fucking outrageous.
Mainstaining, I actually quite like that.
I think that feels more accurate to me.
The bright side of this clip is at least for once he has acknowledged that he is not the working class.
A brief moment of self-awareness.
Shame he's not doing it on the main show.
That would go a little bit further.
Anyway, let's have a little bit more of this video that Russell's playing.
It implies that their immigration is an orchestrated plan.
That people of color are easily convinced to vote according to the preferences of shadowy elites, typically.
Democrats, by Jews, by liberals in Europe.
And that this is destroying white people's lives.
Sweden, one of the places most drastically changed by recent immigration, is projected to become classified as a third world country.
The theory is delusional because there is no evidence of any secret plan.
And racist because it considers non-white immigrants inferior.
But its twisted logic points to a real transition.
We are having demographic changes in the United States.
We expect by 2050 for there to be a minority majority.
This is one reason why the conspiracy spreads so effectively in the US.
In a way, demographic shifts across a population are not particularly relevant, i.e.
what does it matter to you what the majority is, except you perhaps feel that there may be some persecution or domination.
I suppose the argument that I would advance is the persecution and domination that you will likely experience will not be predicated ultimately upon the colour of your skin, but by your economic class.
And is it possible that Your conditions will deteriorate or you will become economically and socially more vulnerable because of the availability of cheap labour.
Oh my god.
Oh dear.
So it's not about racism but it is still completely about migration according to Russell, which ultimately serves the same immediate goals as those who believe in the racial component.
Funny that.
So what's the difference?
Oh dear, oh dear.
Now, that was the last segment from that video that Russell is going to play, which is interesting in of itself.
See, the people who originally made this video that's been playing, that is the German state-funded media company Deutsche Welle, found on YouTube as DW Documentary, Very clearly knew what they were doing and they wanted an informative explainer on the Great Replacement Theory examining its cultural impact worldwide and of course its origins.
And they talked to a number of experts on the subject.
Now, I'm not going to blame Russell for not using the parts going into European far-right politics for his overwhelmingly US-based audience, even if I'm quite sure they'd like some of the things those people were saying.
But it does strike me as significant that he would intentionally not use the part about where the Great Replacement Theory originated.
Now, the theory itself is sometimes credited originally to French aristocrat Arthur de Gobineau from back in the 1800s, though there were a number of contenders, to be honest.
But he asserted that actually the white race had already been diluted too much and there was no turning back.
We were already too brown, everybody.
We were already fucked.
Yeah, dramatic Frenchman, who would have thought?
This line of thinking, as well as the more general white genocide theory, was later picked up and regurgitated by another Frenchman, Renaud Camus, who turned it into a book in 2010 and he's become kind of the modern day... 2010?
Yeah, he's become kind of the modern day shithead equivalent.
Though the theory itself has deep roots from way before World War II.
This goes back.
The problem with all of that is that Russell cannot talk about where the Great Replacement Theory originated, or the clips from this video talking about it, because it's plain and evident the theory itself is not an economic one, but it is a racist theory.
But Russell can't show the portions of this video, because if he did, his argument would completely fall apart.
It's already apart!
Yes.
Why is he playing this video?
It's baffling.
It's an excellent question.
Honestly, here's how it's feeling as an observer.
It's high-level gaslighting.
High, high-level gaslighting that you're going to play this responsible explainer video and then just say completely batshit stuff that has nothing...
I've noticed on our show, this happens a fair amount, this is certainly the most dissonant.
Because like, it's not even kind of, he's just saying stuff.
Like there's a video and then he's saying things and the only proximity is their placement in a video next to each other.
There is no other real relation, like relational kind of connection.
And if we're going to move on from this video, I do want to point something out that the gal said.
Did you catch her name or who she was?
Yes.
She's the president of... I can't remember the name of the organization.
But yeah, they deal with kind of hate stuff worldwide.
Yeah.
I mean, you can look it up.
You already mentioned the video.
You can look it up.
And pointing out that this is a conspiracy theory.
And what's problematic, and I do want to mention, just to reiterate, Because there was an interview that I listened to recently, this author, Arthur Goldwag, and he writes on probably the same thing that that gal is studying, right?
It's like internet hate and far-right conservative hate.
But the difference between a conspiracist and a conspiracy theorist is vast.
A conspiracist is a person who is identifying a – because conspiracies are real.
They do happen.
That's why we have RICO laws.
It's why we can prosecute an organization of crime.
Criminal organization.
An organization that is intent on doing criminal things.
That's a conspiracy.
That is real.
And they are everywhere.
A conspiracy theorist.
And the thing is, is about like, the takeaway is a conspiracy and a conspiracist looking into a conspiracy.
Very often there is no answer because it's hidden.
There can only be inferences.
And very often it's not satisfied.
There is no satisfying end to a conspiracy.
You're just like, well, The octopus.
Boom.
Like you're just, well, this is a thing that happened.
We will get a limit.
Being able to address, well, or we address whatever we can, but we have to fill in, like there's all these holes that we may never know because somebody shredded a bunch of documents and there's, we can only look at the results.
Maybe we have some accidental financial records that we can understand a little bit of it, but it's been covered up effectively and therefore we don't ever really have the proof that we would need.
To know the truth.
So it's just a thing that you have to be okay with the ambiguity of a possibility and understanding that you're never going to know 100%.
You can feel like you know, but you're never going to know.
However, a conspiracy theorist is looking to put a neat little bow and a button and know for sure who is doing what.
That is the opposite of someone who is exploring a conspiracy, researching, reporting a conspiracy.
A conspiracy theorist wants Jews.
It's their fault and that's why.
And regardless of whatever They have a conclusion, and they want to support that conclusion, and that conclusion is definite.
That is safe for them mentally.
That is effective.
That's the conspiracy theory part, is putting a neat answer to a fucking complex question.
And if that's what we— I feel like our project is accusing Russell of being a conspiracy theorist, That he can act like it's complex all day long.
He can say the words, oh, it's nuanced.
Oh, it's complex.
And this and that and the other.
But at the end of the day, he is looking for an easy answer so he doesn't have to think about it anymore.
And his listeners want the same.
Yeah, there's an inherent lack of diligence and responsibility to this man that would be required were he to do the other thing.
So yeah, conspiracy theory all the way down with him.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
Anyway, we need to stop talking about race apparently.
Framing these issues around race by either side actually is disingenuous.
It's ultimately an economic issue and it secondarily becomes cultural because it places certain communities and demographics in a vulnerable position while not affecting the managerial and elite classes.
So are displacement theory and mass migration connected?
At the moment, it seems that there is no evidence for displacement theory, but that mass migration potentially is more perilous for low-paid workers in an increasingly economically unequal world than it is, of course, for the managerial and elite classes.
Oh my god.
Um, so while he's going to great lengths to say, I'm not sure about the conspiracy theory part, he's heavily inferring that the people at the top are making the decision to let all these migrants into the country and therefore destabilize the working class so they can profit.
What Russell is engaging in is dismissing the Great Replacement Theory and then signing on to every individual component of it except for the racism-ish, while saying things that just so happen to enable the racist parts.
That's what we're doing.
How convenient!
How convenient!
Oh my god.
Also, if you'd like to know the actual, like if you'd like to know the real story, listeners, everybody, on the incredible terrifying nightmare peril that migrants go through to even just get to the bad app.
Um, PBS does an amazing job covering it and there's a lot of resources on Vice while they're still around.
You absolutely can learn a lot more of the truth and not at all what Russell is saying.
And we are not equipped to cover that, but there's a ton of resources out there that are.
I encourage you, please, please, please, to get some ammo in your tank.
Absolutely.
When these kind of conversations come up, because this is fucking nuts.
This is fucking nuts.
Yes, yes it is.
There's a sandwich with like a nugget of racism in the middle and he's like eating all around it and then maybe taking a couple of licks of the racism nugget as well, you know?
Ignoring, like, saying, like, it is an economic issue and not a racist issue, not a race issue, is, like, that's, like, mwah.
Classico.
John, like, Bercher.
Oh, yeah.
Like, classic conservative, you know, like, bait and switch.
Classic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Classic.
All the hallmarks.
That and, well, if you're talking about it, you're the problem.
Both of these things, as American as a cheeseburger, they're just perfect, right on the money.
Ah, dear.
And all the while, we should stop framing this as a racist issue, despite the fact, you know, the theory is inherently based in racism.
Oh, it's completely intertwined.
Okay, yeah.
Ah, dear.
Now we get to a second source from Russell.
Hey, Let's have a look at a Fox News report on migration.
Republicans have been pushing the president to use executive authority on the border.
Even some Democrats have signaled they'd be open to that action.
He signed a flurry of them shortly after taking office in 2021, several of which were on immigration to reverse former President Trump's policies.
So critics say, why not use that option again now?
The administration is continuing its push for Congress to act.
A bipartisan bill that included stricter provisions at the border failed to pass the Senate last month after several Republicans opposed it.
And the president is leaning into that issue, trying to place the blame on the GOP during a trip to Brownsville, Texas last week.
A Fox News poll shows 81% of voters blame Congress for what is happening at the border, and 72% blame the president, giving some credence to the White House's strategy.
Sometimes I wonder if the ethical and moral reasoning that much of the media engage in is, in a sense, irrelevant in countries that are alleged to be democracies.
In true states of referenda, the perspectives of individuals and communities have to be taken into account simply by virtue of what the people want.
At least that's the claim that democracies make.
It seems to me that in a more decentralised and truly democratic or at least representative nation, communities would be able to determine for themselves what their particular attitude towards migration was and establish policies as locally as possible.
That would mean there would be no requirement for an overall national policy on a subject like migration.
It would be as localised as possible.
In my view, that should be the position for the vast majority of political issues.
Ugh, fuck me.
Okay, here we go again.
The answer to everything, everybody!
Tiny theocratic ethnostates!
He's consistent!
He is!
Do you know what?
The fact that he shows he can be consistent makes me mad.
That also makes me mad.
It should.
It should.
Like, oh, you can be consistent.
Mhm.
And this.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, this might be a slight side note, but I have been thinking a lot about, you know, when we had Jordan and Eli on and Jordan kind of made the commentary that, you know, these people are liars.
And, you know, I've been sitting with that and kind of trying to... Is that news to you?
No, but a lot of the game is kind of trying to figure out where these people actually do have some beliefs, if they have any.
I think Russell does have some.
Much like I think George Galloway had some.
Somewhere in there, in that mess of a human being.
And there are other figures that definitely don't have any other than just hatred.
But I do feel like this is one of the things That we're like, he does, he keeps hammering on this idea.
There's, he definitely believes in this concept somewhere.
Um, you know, it's, it's never going to go away.
It's classic white delusion.
Like it's classic, like privileged white delusion that.
Especially more affluent and more resourced people.
I mean, to me, this is like Doomsday Prepper 101.
You think that you are special and different and that you need to protect yourself and that you will survive when the shit hits the fan and that you should remove yourself, go get a house in the country And, oh, you're going to grow all your own food, and you're going to do all your own stuff, and you don't need any help, obviously.
You've paid for every road and road sign that you've ever used in your life.
How dare you imply that I'm part of a community?
How dare you imply I'm part of a community?
A complete misunderstanding of, like, how the... Like, it's not misunderstanding.
It's a willful, willful denial of how the world works and thinking that you're special within it.
I think Russell takes it a step further in wanting a commune of people to serve him.
Oh, that's part of it.
That's absolutely part of it.
In Bali, where there is no extradition treaty.
Yeah.
They don't even do all the shit that they need to do in their own house, let alone in their neighborhood.
And they don't want to acknowledge the fact that they are part of a community.
And that's literally all.
He has this pastoral idyll in his mind.
I'm positive that's what he wants.
And whatever needs to happen for him to achieve that for himself is fine.
And good.
And I mean, the irony is palpable, you know, when you look at his community festival.
If you look up anything from that event, you know, it's got nothing to do with community.
It's a festival worshipping Russell Brand.
That's what the point is.
It's a retail event.
That's the purpose.
It's a retail conference.
We're all more than aware of retail conferences.
Call it Irony Festival.
I think that'll at least be a little more accurate.
Black people, you live over there, white people over there, the gays can be in that corner and we'll all live happily ever after and nobody can be great replaced anymore.
Um, alright.
And, uh, Russell's not quite done advocating for his tiny ethnostates concept, um, and, uh, I'm gonna include the next clip for the sake of being thorough if nothing else.
Similarly, I wonder if most people would accept that in order to have a nativist and closed borders nation there should be the immediate cessation of involvement in foreign wars, the immediate cessation of global corporatist resource-based exploits abroad, and that a truly nativist closed border country would not engage in foreign wars and would only engage in military activity if they were under direct attack.
Ah, I see.
So the tiny ethnostates wouldn't engage in war, or at least it would only be defensive wars, you know, like the one Ukraine are currently having to do.
What an adorable loophole!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
And so Russell's utopia would therefore avoid Charlie Kirk's, you know, invade the world, invite the world concept.
Therefore, he wouldn't have this problem of all the pesky brown people coming in.
You see, it's big brain thinking is what it is.
Yeah.
So, Russell has been pretty insistent that he's not on board with the Great Replacement Theory as a whole, and then comes this clip.
I'd love to know what you think about this, because me, personally, the most important thing is compassion, love, the open-eyed perspective of a good Samaritan.
However, what I am becoming increasingly sensitive to is the possibility that there are a wide variety of political ideas that that are disingenuously deployed and even described,
that generate problems for people on the lower tiers, economically, of the social ladder,
while being largely beneficial to people higher up those hierarchies.
Let me know what you think about that perspective.
I think he just described it without describing it.
I think that's what just happened.
A wide variety of political ideas that are disingenuously deployed, which is a very specific word, and even described.
So even the describing of the Great Replacement Theory as racist is apparently a conspiracy theory used to stop people from talking about it and sow division.
And migration is beneficial to those in the top tiers of society.
Extrapolate from there, question mark.
Hmm.
Okay, yep.
Said that.
Do you know what was in the back of my mind through that clip?
He's such a good Samaritan, this guy.
He's just brimming with compassion, you know?
It's just, it's all there.
What an interesting take.
Mine's different.
But that's what makes the world go around, don't it?
Right?
It's the spice of life.
Isn't it just?
Um, well, well, I don't know.
I think, um, I think in the worlds that these people are imagining, food is maybe a little bit more bland.
That's, that's all, that's all I'm gonna say.
Um, anyway.
One must wonder, if there is division being sowed, who is doing it?
For me the idea that one particular race or culture would have a larger number of people in any particular landmass is not particularly relevant if you had local rule and true democracy and that those communities were not governed centrally and guided centrally i.e.
in a truly representative democracy these issues could be decided by the electorate as locally As possible.
And I personally believe that were there to be a closed border mentality when it comes to the complex issue of migration, it would have to be coupled with a non-interventionist military policy and a non-globalist economic policy, which would of course be hugely detrimental to the global corporations that dominate and control all of America's political systems.
Okay, so we're nearing an answer here.
So it's the global corporations who are benefiting from migration.
Then why'd you buy all your stuff from around the globe today?
I'm just looking at what I can clap my eyeballs on.
Like the most basic, I know that there's, listen, there's a lot of nuance and a lot of complexity, but like, let's just talk about your top, sir.
Let's talk about your microphone, your hair product, the container your hair product arrives in and where it goes once it's empty.
What shores it fucking washes up on.
What are we doing?
Like, okay, start with you.
Who in your commune is going to make that hair product, you know?
Well, like, start with you.
You're already doing it.
You are thriving off of the anti-globalist.
Stop selling shit that only can be sold in America, you fuck.
Start with you.
Oh, you don't want to?
Just do anything that you believe in.
Do anything that you say.
It is outrageous.
Oh my God.
His own merch, you know, has worldwide shipping.
So, you know, I don't know where that comes in.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's like, why have I been not... You know what?
I have not had the bandwidth to be angry about this particular thing, but it has just occurred to me.
And it's the most fucking obvious shit in the world.
It's like, you are, you're a globalist.
You're in the UK and you know, and he said, in your country.
He isn't even talking to British people anymore.
He knows he's only talking to Americans.
He said it!
I will say, you know what, maybe that's a little point in my fucking sad, pathetic, angry corner, is that he finally just came out and said it.
He knows he's not talking to his countrymen.
Like, you're, you're, you're really, like, that's, you're really against globalism and literally that's what you, you're doing a globalism.
Now!
In real time!
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my god!
He's never been one to examine his own hypocrisies, has he?
You first!
You first!
You start!
Oh dear, dear, dear.
Oh my god!
All right, so we are nearing an answer.
It's the global corporations who are benefiting from migration and sowing division by calling things racist.
Gotcha!
But wait, who owns these global corporations?
Surely there are people behind these things.
So, whether displacement theory is real or not, whether or not it can be proven to be real, is still an open question.
What seems to be relatively certain, and I'd love your feedback on this, is the class of people that most vociferously advocate for migration are the class that are least impacted by its consequences.
And clearly, voided of the issue of race and culture absolutely, it's plain that if you have access to low-paid workers, it's beneficial to globalist interests.
Ah, globalists!
Of course!
How did I not put that together?
The globalists who own the global corporations like that Schwab chap or Soros.
Okay, so the globalists are advancing the idea that migration is a good thing, sowing division by calling anyone who talks about the Great Replacement Theory is racist, and all in the name of profit and keeping the working class down.
Now, Globalist does also mean Jew and is often a placeholder for Jews when people say the word, so it could be the Jews doing it, like Schwab or Soros or... Wait, hang on, have we started to sound a little bit Great Replacement-y again?
Damn, I keep catching myself.
Advocate... The, like, advocating for, like, the group advocating for, do not come.
Yeah, yeah.
Do not come.
Yeah, that's what the elite class are actually saying.
Because it's always been them.
It's implied and explicit.
It's bullshit.
Yes, the person chatting about this in 1800s France was an aristocrat.
The people talking about it on these fucking televisions are all wealthy white men.
It's not a coincidence.
Oh dear.
I bet you want to remove- that's also, again, a classical American move.
Oh yeah, you want to remove race from economics.
I bet you do.
I bet you do.
Sure.
I bet you sure do.
We all would.
Oh, is it impossible?
It's impossible.
That's crazy.
Listen, I know that I live in a melting pot, right?
And even in conversations that we have, like, I get that I am around a much more diverse group of people where I live.
I get that, and I do need to check myself.
Also, I actively check myself constantly, that I get that not everyone has the same life experience and exposure.
Even in travels in my own country, shit is wildly different.
People have wildly different experiences.
Russell cannot use that excuse.
It's just not reasonable.
To have an underdeveloped Language to discuss racial disparity through economics.
Fucking redlining.
Oh my god.
It's hard to organize my thoughts because there's an avalanche of argument.
It's all the germs are trying to get through the door at the same time.
It's the Mr. Bert.
They're all just They're all stuck.
I get that it's a challenge to be sensitive to stuff that you just don't experience, and you're just not really around that much.
You don't have to think about it.
I mean, you and I have talked about it.
I've talked about it mostly on Off Brand, but my experience is really different because of where I grew up and how I grew up.
And I want to just let listeners know that I'm not just spouting off the cuff from where I'm at.
I try to check myself and understand that there's a lot of different experiences and I need to be patient.
And especially if I'm not a black person, I'm not the person being harmed and I'm hearing it.
It's my job To be patient and rebut in a way, because I'm supposed to listen to it.
I'm supposed to field it because it's not nearly as harmful.
Racism against Black people, I get affected by products of that.
Racism, but it doesn't come to me directly, and it's my job to stand in the gap.
That's my job.
So I have to think about these things in a more rational, and it can hurt really bad, and it can be really fucking uncomfortable, but you gotta read the books, and you gotta listen to the people, and you gotta do what, especially you gotta do what those voices are asking you to do.
And what I hear those voices constantly, Asking us as white people to do is to intercede with people who look like us because they're more likely to listen and to try to settle some of the fucking burden that they have to walk around and carry every day.
And I would fucking hope that there is some kind of sensitivity, like cultivate that sensitivity within yourself.
If it looks bad to you, imagine how bad it looks to somebody that has to deal with it way more and way more intensely.
It's just like, it blows my fuck.
There's something about this that like, Russell, like either Russell knows he's only talking to white people, Or he thinks he's only talking to white people.
Either way, that's fucked up in and of itself.
He knows, and he doesn't have the excuse of kind of lack of experience in any stretch of the imagination.
Of course!
You know, I mean, from where he grew up in Essex, okay, I don't know the exact, you know, cosmology of that place, but certainly he lived in London for a long time, lived in Los Angeles, you know, the man has traveled the world.
It's called Los Angeles.
Not an English word, not English words.
Right, right.
Yeah, it's groovy because it's diverse.
That's the whole part of it, and especially when you have the leisure time and the money to spend, you're spending it.
Diverse people are the ones that you're paying.
That's just the way of things.
That's the thing, is if he was even just in one place, that's different than like, you've been in LA a bunch, you've been in New York a bunch, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the diversity is, yeah, you're right.
It's the thing that makes these places such an absolute delight, you know.
And conversely to your experience, you know, where I went to high school, there was one black family in that high school and one Indian family.
Very different.
I mean, very different. And that's out of, I don't know, like what, I want to say like
six, seven hundred students, something like that. So, you know, very white, you know, and Wales is
in general, there are, you know, more pockets kind of on the coast, north or south.
But yeah, very overwhelmingly white.
And so, you know, you do see more of that perspective around here, where there's just less understanding.
And so you do have to be like, okay, I understand why you have this perspective.
Start there, and then intercede wherever you can.
And I get that, like, it's sticky.
It's difficult.
And you also don't want to alienate somebody, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it's tough.
This is, I mean.
Had a lot of difficult conversations in 2020 especially, you know, when everything came to a head with George Floyd, you know, that was international, you know, and so there were a lot of interesting takes being thrown around here and so it took, you know, it does, when someone is speaking from a place of, I would say more ignorance than malice, then it does take a certain amount of tact to deal with.
Swallow it, take some patience.
There's times like, well, and I told you this, probably off air, I think, but like, you know, going to Seattle and working the Seattle Tattoo Convention, this sweet, lovely, young, blonde, co-ed gal, who's just brand new to politics at all, this little fresh-faced nugget, comes and gets tattooed, and she's so excited, and she's like, have you been watching what's going on in Ferguson?
And I'm like, yeah, I live in St.
Louis.
The word St.
Louis is really big on this banner behind me as well.
And she's like, what?
I don't know that my attitude was great in that moment.
I don't know that it was.
I know on the inside, I was exhausted to a pile of dust, but I took a minute.
You know what?
I also had the luxury of working and put on like, okay, girl.
I did what I could.
Also, she's excited.
She's concerned, feels like for the first time ever about, again, something that in the St.
Louis area, We all are acutely aware of and live in every day because it affects, like, we get the residual, you know, we get the runoff, but we all get it and we all know we all have to live in that space and part of what made Ferguson happen
Makes our world worse for everyone.
We are all invested.
You have to, whenever you have the strength, can I give you, listener, babe, sweets, I need you, I want to give you a little bit of hope and a little bit of power to be slightly less annoyed and slightly less Exhausted, because we're trying, and you have to fucking try.
Nothing automatically happens.
You have to try.
You have to listen.
Listen first.
Two ears, one mouth.
Listen first.
Don't just decide far-off notions that you think are going to be helpful.
There's plenty of things that I'm like, oh, that I hear about, that I am open to, Black and brown voice is telling me like, hey, this is problematic.
I'm like, I don't see it, but I trust you.
It makes sense.
And I trust that it's happening.
Maybe don't doubt the person right away.
Maybe don't disregard what they're saying right away.
Or if you're advocating, if someone's advocating, even the thing is, is you don't even have to agree.
Just like considerate, just considerate.
That's it.
Yeah.
And hopefully, in those situations, us kind of dealing with it in at least some way will minimize damage to people who are much more affected by it than we are.
Fingers crossed.
Well, the thing is, you cannot do it expecting accolades or praise.
Oh God, no.
No, no, no.
Not a lot.
I mean, like, listen, it does feel bad.
It's just draining.
Very often, it's just a shitty feeling, and you're not gonna get to feel good about it, ever.
And that's why you rest, and that's why you try to take care of yourself, and you do what you can, but you have to do what you can.
You have to.
I'm just, like, I'm...
Ah, please, please, please.
I know you may have had an interaction yesterday or last week that just got your goat.
Somebody said, oh, you've seen Ferguson?
And you're like, I live in St.
Louis.
And they're like, what?
That may have happened to you yesterday.
That may be a text that's waiting for you on your phone right now.
Just know, I'm here with you.
It sucks.
I know it sucks.
We've got to try.
Just, we've got to try.
Don't expect a prize at the end.
We've gotta try.
Yes, indeed.
Yes, indeed.
Now, let's get back to work.
Soapbox put away!
Well, you know, we've got more of this gotta deal with.
I bet we do.
Let's, tell you what, let's not write him off just yet.
Let's allow him to finish his thought on this subject.
Tight.
And in a world where globalism is the true and dominant power, you are likely to live with continuing, in fact, endless migration crises.
Because if you ask me, the simple truth is most people would prefer to live peacefully, democratically and free from globalist tyranny in the countries that they are from.
Perhaps enjoying travel as a vacation or leisure activity and economic migration is likely caused by capitalism and benefits capitalism.
So that makes you wonder who benefits from mass migration, whether there is a displacement theory or not.
Quibono who benefits.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
He said it, we benefit from migration.
We always have.
We always will.
That's how society works.
We do benefit.
He said it!
Now he implied that there's only- Right, I know what he implied.
That there's- that only the top, which he's also implicating himself because he's at the top, so he's benefiting from this display right now.
Yeah, you gotta think that, huh?
The hypocrisy cloud.
It's thick.
Oh yeah.
It's thick.
It's the great smog, if you will.
It's palpable.
That's crazy.
Geez.
Yeah.
Cui bono.
Cui bono.
The conspiracy theorist adage that actually used to have meaning at one point in time.
So it's very clear.
Russell is just dancing around language, extracting race from the conversation, you know.
Very out loud doing that, because it's a sticky wicket for him to deal with, so he just doesn't.
And otherwise, yeah, he's completely signed on to the concept of the Great Replacement Theory without actually saying it in so many words.
The supposed endless migration crisis that's going to happen under the globalists kind of seals that deal a little bit, huh?
I'm acutely aware that I am not modeling behavior that is useful to the people that are kind enough to give us their time and attention.
I appreciate you, and I'm sorry that I'm not a good example, because I'm just fucked.
If you say, let's take race out of it, I'm instantly livid.
I'm instantly livid.
Now, I have worked very hard to be livid and listen at the same time.
It's not natural, because that's not how our brains work when you're as angry as that makes me.
It is.
It's a struggle.
It takes energy and practice to listen through that.
But if you hear someone say, let's take Grace out of it, stop right there.
Stop.
Drop.
Roll.
No, no, no.
Roll out of the door.
You're on fire.
You're on fire.
Get out of there.
Get out of there.
Well, don't get out.
Stop.
Let's talk about it.
In fact, actively don't get out.
Stay there.
Plant your fucking feet.
Ten toes.
And say, why?
What do you mean take race out of it?
How do you plan to take race out of it?
Seems complicated.
Yeah, yeah.
Is race already there?
Is that why you're wanting to take it out of it, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wish we could all take it out.
I really wish we could.
We can't.
That's it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm also unsure about the concept of capitalism causing migration, because I feel like a good chunk of what's going on is, you know, dictators or genocides or religious purges or white nationalists or bigotry or any number of awful things that cause refugees to flee their home and seek refuge elsewhere.
Well, if he brought the anti-capitalist analysis that I insist on interjecting in our coverage, then maybe he would have a leg to stand on.
Because I guess that from a top-down view, but like the way he's talking, I feel, at least what I heard to my lay person's ear, I heard Capitalism kind of sounds like it's exchangeable for the economy.
The economy exists, and regardless, it doesn't have to be capitalism to be an economy.
And genuinely, Migration is beneficial.
That's just a real thing that also America was very aware of and used to know quite well.
That's what's crazy is this kind of rhetoric is brand spanking fucking new in this way.
Because, and now there were certainly always very racist policies and very racist fucked up imperialist things that were always happening.
But there were at least some people anywhere saying, Migration's good.
We need people.
And I'm so, I'm at my wits end reading and seeing articles.
Very often they're being debunked when I interact with them.
I don't necessarily interact with them organically.
But nevertheless, I know they exist.
I check and they are real.
The complaint of population crisis is being just wept over.
In all kinds of countries.
There's a lot of countries like, oh, we're having a population crisis of not enough people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can't maintain like, well, I know where there's some that you can invite and support.
Do you really need people?
Because we have people to spare and they're really trying hard to get any amount of support or safety.
I bet you could look there.
Oh, they're not white?
Okay.
Well then that changes the conversation.
Let's have that conversation.
Funny how that's a problem, huh?
Yeah, weird.
Weird how you don't want them anymore.
Mysterious.
Doesn't sound like it's a problem.
Sounds like a big problem.
Yeah, right?
You made up?
Yeah.
Alright, we've got one more clip from this fun little piece.
Let me know what you guys think in the comments and the chat and we'll continue this content.
Let me know what else you want to see us discuss.
Obviously, I'm not claiming to have any conclusions on this.
Compassion, love, one world where we have the maximum amount of democratic control over our own individual lives and are able to oppose tyrannical, gargantuan, globalist interests must always be the aim.
Decentralised but unified.
Ending the reign of these Goliath and tyrants that currently dominate the planet is surely a priority for us all.
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I do know that many of Russell's guests sign on to the Great Replacement Theory, but I do have to point out the timing of presenting a piece advocating for the Great Replacement Theory while having Mike Benz on the main show, who is a literal Jewish neo-Nazi.
You know, there's a synchronicity there that feels deliberate.
Synergy.
Corporate synergy.
Tight.
-Cool.
Oh, man.
-That was a lot.
Aren't you glad we got access to the locals channel?
I'm so angry.
I'm so angry.
I'm so angry I'm just gonna have to lie in the dark and be quiet for a while.
That's like how I'm gonna have to handle this.
This is fucked up.
So I don't know I mean I feel like also like listeners like we're listen we're here We're here to make a product for you to consume.
That's kind of the most important part.
And just listen to me be angry.
I bet it's fun for some.
I know, listen, in my personal life, some friends think it's a hoot and a half, and I'm happy to oblige.
And maybe you're not as, like, as up in arms about this subject as I am.
Now's no time like the present.
And there's a lot of personal experience and learning and curiosity that I have that has brought me to this place.
And I know it doesn't seem like a great place because I just am angry all the time, but it's not.
That's not true.
In my own life, I've been able to successfully navigate and analyze and understand a lot more about the world around me in a responsible way.
Because of it, it's not all anger.
There's a lot of really good stuff too.
And that's kind of what I was like thinking about.
The whole show.
And I do, like, there are some positive things that, like, in my personal life, and, listener, I want you to think about stuff that, like, benefits that you have from also just ruminate on the cool things you get to have in your neighborhood, in your city, because of diversity.
Have that shit ready to go.
Like, we have, you know, like, in St.
Louis, just two There's a million awesome restaurants that we avail ourselves of every single night of the week.
you know, some kind of conflict. We have a bunch of, like a lot of Vietnamese,
we have a lot of Vietnamese people that came to St. Louis and established themselves.
And as a result, we could have awesome, like there's a million awesome restaurants that we
avail of ourselves of every single night of the week. That's, there's a reason for that.
And you need to support the whole person, not just eat their food.
Like I've talked about this before, Bosnian refugees were welcomed into St.
Louis a long time ago, or when I was young.
And again, not just restaurants.
That's just an example.
Yes, there's friction.
There's a study about the influx of a migrant community that is a very different culture.
I can't remember the study.
Someone's yelling it at me right now.
What they found in the study is there's friction at first.
But once you get over that hump of friction, it's just like a better community.
Like, it's just like a better place to live.
And everyone's happier and likes each other more.
If you get over, and what really fucking frustrates me is like, if that is at least not proven, but there's evidence for that to be the natural progression, which also in a lot of my friends' lives, my life, Those are the swear words you get to learn when you go to work.
Even just little things like that, being able to go sing Bosnian karaoke on Kings Highway.
We all went, and it was tight as fuck and really fun.
These little things, they do matter.
And focusing on that, just this little, it's like, oh, right.
It's actually very cool to live with a lot of different people.
And you get over that initial challenge.
And there's a lot of really great stuff that content and rhetoric, like what we just watched, is the effort to keep that first initial barrier in place, to never be able to get past that initial discomfort.
Because again, like, The thing that makes me probably the most angry is, well, don't rock the boat.
Status quo warrior.
If you speak up, you're the racist.
That's fucking batshit insane.
It really sends me to a bad place.
It makes me really mad.
place. It makes you really mad. And I feel like the food argument actually might not
be a bad route to go.
I mean, because like, for these people who spout this kind of stuff, there's a part of me that's like, what if I made you just eat your native cuisine, just that, for your remaining days?
I wonder how you would feel about multiculturalism after that point.
Because I mean, Russell, you know, Russell being British, you know, he would be on just British food and we have notoriously bad food according to the rest of the world.
And, you know, and he's vegan, so he's going to have a hard time with that.
That honestly, it blows my mind.
Like any, because there's these conservative, you know, there's conservative, there's like violent, violent rhetoric from absolute bloodthirsty psychopaths.
In Congress, in public, in government.
How do you go to a Mexican restaurant?
Because I know you do.
I know you do.
That's one of the most awesome things about America are the Mexican restaurants are everywhere.
As a person who can't be bothered to digest wheat, it's a fucking lifesaver.
Corn-based, I'm here for it.
And delicious.
How is there not rat poison in your fucking Mexican food?
Because I know you're eating it.
I already know you're eating it.
How fucking dare you?
How dare you?
One frijole in your intestines should be soaked in... That's... I'm gonna stop myself.
We're coming dangerously close to something actionable here.
How could there not be food amendments?
But basically, so here's the thing.
No human is illegal.
He didn't say illegals.
Even Joe fucking Biden.
Oh boy.
Biden said illegals.
Into a microphone.
He's so old.
No, he's racist!
He's a white racist!
racist and that's that's what like to to even suggest that Democrats give a sink
like Democrats in power gives a single solitary fuck They're the ones that are the status quo warriors saying like, well, we can't rock the boat too much.
Let's just do increment.
Oh, I don't know.
Well, I'm afraid to hurt their feelings.
So let's just, I mean, we should just listen to Mitch McConnell this time and the next time we'll get it, I promise.
That is, you're complicit.
You're complicit, like both parties.
This is one of those subjects where like, it's not as bad, like the Trump Trump losing a bunch of children, thousands of children.
Like, policies were worse.
But it's still, like, we have to look at it holistically and how bad it is.
I cannot, and I'm annoyed with myself, that, like, I I just fucking posted the shrine.
And it's cool that I can't keep it in stock because other people vibe with the same idea, which is heartening to me.
There's an Audre Lorde quote.
One of my clients, a million years ago when I was tattooing, wanted it on a portrait.
And as soon as I heard it, it changed my DNA.
Chernobyl style.
But good.
Like a good Chernobyl.
Like a good, yeah.
Well, it's your silence will not protect you.
And your silence in the moment might be more comfortable.
It might be easier.
Your silence will not protect you.
And it might take a minute for that to flesh out in your own life, but it won't.
And being understanding, I've just been in this fucking situation, and I'm so frustrated by it.
But I get it.
You've got to speak up sometime.
And there's no time like the present, because your silence will not protect you.
I could not have more of a vehemently opposed view than everything that Russell just said about it's a problem to bring it up.
It's fucked.
Yep.
It's fucked.
Yeah, I disagree with almost everything he said.
Almost everything he said.
And yeah, yeah, so this was fun.
But you know, I am glad we do get to look behind the scenes and peek behind the curtain because we wouldn't have known about this otherwise.
That is helpful.
We wouldn't have been able to see this.
You're right.
Very special perspective.
And you know, I haven't spent too much time poking around in there yet, but I'm gonna have a look, and I'm gonna have a look at that exclusive Tucker interview, and I don't think we're gonna cover that, please.
Nobody get too concerned.
We've We have enough Tucker for a lifetime in this show already.
I think we should cover the stuff that's most important to cover.
Exactly.
Not my part of it, right?
Yes.
No, no, no.
It very much comes down to what takes a priority.
And things like this absolutely do.
It is the most wishy-washy I've heard from this kind.
And even he's just at the end, he's like, well, I don't know.
We didn't really have a conclusion.
You super did.
You're just gaslighting all of us.
This has to be confusing to listen to.
Like he's relying a lot on whatever his his followers or listeners viewers are bringing to the table to connect the dots for what he's like as far as the context that you know you're you're bringing to the show for him to expect that people can Can connect the dots in one listen?
It's just disparate.
It's just whiplash.
Just like George Galloway last week was like, this is just whiplash.
What am I even supposed to make of this as a listener?
It's not clear.
With 85% of Russell's audience being Trumpers, I'm willing to bet their experience is relatively unified in terms of media diet, so that is an interesting question.
But yeah, it's not clear.
It's not concise or clear as to which direction he's pointing at, but You know, there are the certain things he keeps hammering on, you know.
Immigration, bad for America.
You know, globalists, bad!
And also these elites, whoever they might be, maybe the globalists, keep, you know, saying that this immigration is good and actually it's bad!
And, you know, he keeps kind of...
Coming back to that, but yeah, it's it's it's it's very slippery, which I didn't expect honestly I didn't expect as much of behind the paywall, but Still a good chunk in this Which is fun, and if he is anti globalist he can start Yeah.
You first, Russ.
Start at home.
Yeah, start in your insulated ethno state.
Yeah, yeah.
In fact, I think maybe we should... Russell should build a wall.
A big, big wall around his pub in Piss Hill.
No, that got... Chain link fence wall?
That one had to get taken down.
There was a legal action.
He did build a wall.
He tried.
He really tried.
And it had a hemp covering.
A chain link fence with a hemp cover.
Anyway!
It's so outrageous.
It's the most pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining to be anti-globalist and broadcasting your stupid ass halfway across the world.
That's nuts.
That's fucking nuts.
Oh yeah.
I can't with this shit.
Hypocrisy.
Okay everybody, here it is.
The discussion around kind of present-day immigration and the things that the original commenter actually wanted us to be discussing.
I do just want to highlight the apparent reason that Russell is covering this subject and it's based on a comment from Shoro on Locals asking, can you please cover this and providing a link.
I expected the link to be quite great replacements specific, but it's not quite. In fact, it's an article from
the Center for Immigration Studies entitled "New Records Biden DHS Has Approved Hundreds of
Thousands of Migrants for Secretive Foreign Flights Directly into U.S. Airports." Naturally, I
took a quick look at the Center for Immigration Studies, who describe themselves as an
independent, nonpartisan, non-profit research organization and also the nation's only think tank devoted
exclusively to the research of U.S.
immigration policy to inform policymakers and the public about immigration's far-reaching impact.
The center is animated by a unique pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision, which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted.
That's their own presentation of who they are, but they're also an SPLC-designated hate group.
And I'm going to read directly from the Southern Poverty Law Center site here, quote, While CIS and its position within the Tanton Network have been on the Southern Poverty Law Center's radar for years, What precipitated listing CIS as an anti-immigrant hate group for 2016 was its repeated circulation of white nationalist and anti-Semitic writers in its weekly newsletter, and the commissioning of a policy analyst who had previously been pushed out of the Conservative Heritage Foundation for his embrace of racist pseudoscience.
These developments, its historical associations, and its record of publishing reports that hype the criminality of immigrants are why CIS is labelled an anti-immigrant hate group.
Unquote.
Too racist for the Heritage Foundation!
That's a high bar.
They're talking specifically about a guy called Jason Richwine, who made a eugenicist argument that immigrants are stupider than white people in his 2009 PhD dissertation.
This was then picked up by the press in 2013, and the guy had to leave the Heritage Foundation.
Honestly, I don't think they'd even bother getting rid of him these days, but 2013 was a different time.
And he found his feet at the Center for Immigration Studies.
However, none of this should be surprising given the CIS was founded by Otis L. Graham and John Tanton, with Tanton being an ophthalmologist and known eugenicist and white nationalist.
He was pretty explicit about those things and also created FAIR, the Federation for Immigration Reform.
Which was instrumental when it came to backing up the Trump administration's abhorrent immigration policies.
Though I do have to ask, what is it with the racist eye doctors?
Why is that a thing?
It's just a trend I'm noticing.
Well, they're usually like eye, ear, nose, and throat, foot.
Dentists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one I kind of, you know, that's supposed to be more of a like, ha ha, you can't do medicine, so you go and be a dentist, you know, that kind of thing.
But, you know, I, yeah.
Oh, what?
I've heard that argument, yeah, from doctors, yeah.
From a bad person?
Like from a not nice person?
They're not being pleasant.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Saying a bad thing.
Jesus.
I was, I mean.
I know.
Maybe, maybe this is a little evidence that folks that don't, you know, certain, maybe, maybe, maybe certain specialties afford you a little spare time.
Or they need to supplement their income.
Yeah, yeah, who knows, who knows.
But yeah, we got John Tatton and Rand Paul definitely in the same kind of milieu.
Anyway, there's a whole eugenicist rabbit hole one can go down in looking into all these people, but I didn't want to digress too much at present.
So, what is the article from CIS actually saying that Russell is apparently basing this video off?
Well, there's a handy summary at the top of the article, so I'll read that to you and then give you a translation of it based on reality.
A little-known part of the Biden administration's CBP-1 parole program permits inadmissible aliens to make an appointment to fly directly to airports in the interior of the United States, bypassing the border altogether.
Partial data on the program, just obtained by the Center for Immigration Studies pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act request, reveals that more than 200,000 people from four countries have used this direct flight and parole program over the past year.
Unquote.
This story is being touted in places like the Telegraph with unscrupulous shitheads making the claim that Biden is allowing hundreds of thousands of otherwise inadmissible migrants to fly into the U.S.
and stay there.
Okay.
So, what they're talking about- I'm at 10 up top.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm dissociating level 10, like, up top, I'm so mad.
And bear in mind- I'm so sorry to people listening.
You're not getting the like thousand yard stare of it all.
And this is from like a five second clip so far, you know, just trying to look at the link of where this is supposed to be coming from.
What is the trigger?
This is a trigger.
And I feel like I've talked about this very like plainly and openly.
I can't wait till we have this intersectional diverse society and everyone's beige and we get the best of everything and everybody has a place and it's great and I know that's not how it works.
I'm saying it as a fun idea that we could potentially reach for in some form or fashion.
Like I'm so excited about a diverse world.
And these people are telling me to go screw.
Yeah.
Like these people are telling me, well, we'll have to deal with your attitude immediately.
Like it's not God.
Oh, absolutely.
You are.
Wow.
With that perspective, especially you are the enemy.
So what they're talking about is in May 2023 the Biden administration announced a new circumvention of lawful pathways rule which incentivizes arrivals at ports of entry and disincentivizes irregular crossings by making migrants without a CBP-1 appointment ineligible for asylum unless they had applied for and been denied protection in another country.
So CBP-1, for anyone who doesn't know, is a mobile app available, I think it was at least in development since 2020, through which migrants can make an application to see U.S.
Customs and Border Protection and arrive safely and legally into the country, provided they have the funding to do so.
Effectively cutting out a lot of smugglers who endanger and profit from vulnerable migrants.
It's also, pretty naturally, it makes the entire system way more efficient and ordered.
Additionally, unlike those who enter the country unlawfully, migrants who secure a CBP-1 appointment can apply for a work permit after being released from U.S.
custody and do not have to satisfy the stricter asylum conditions of It's all really, really bad.
administration regulation, which it's all really, really bad. It's still like the best
possible scenario that's in place today right now is a fucking nightmare.
Yes, yes.
It's a fucking disaster.
And yet is so much better than what was there.
So it's, you know, we've got to, we've got to, I don't know.
Well, it's not, it's not, because it used to be better.
It used to be a lot better and normal and okay.
And it's become a culture war cudgel.
But I mean, better is your, like, we're talking about time, like, On a timeline.
On a continuum.
Better within the very recent past, at the very least.
Some things have been better and some things have been exponentially worse, which makes it even more difficult to talk about because it's not consistent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean that being able to apply for a work permit does solve the problem of, you know, those seeking asylum being unable to work for years because that has occurred plenty of times.
But they have to wait for their appointments for years.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And, well, for the court appointments, that's for sure.
But yeah, it does kind of prevent a little bit of a drain on the system kind of argument, at the very least, if they can get a job and do try and live like a regular human being in the meantime.
Well, they do anyway.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Migrants who come to a port of entry with a CBP-1 appointment undergo national security and public safety checks, but are not screened for asylum.
Instead, they are processed under the Humanitarian Parole Authority, which allows them to work And are then given a notice to appear in immigration court where they can later ask for asylum.
But the rule does also presume migrants are ineligible for asylum if they enter the U.S.
unlawfully after failing to seek refuge in a third country like Mexico, for instance, on their way to American soil.
And so there's that kind of rule hardening.
And this does also create a new problem of what will be Millions more individuals with legal status equivalent to limbo until the immigration courts can get their act together.
Which you're still in limbo anyway!
Yes!
If you get a visa!
It's still limbo!
So the thing is, the way that it's supposed to work and the way that it actually does work, there is a huge disparity.
And I try to keep up on that.
Also, I mean, just I don't have to try, you know, there's a lot of content that also has to cover this, you know, leftists are pretty concerned with what's happening to people that I listen to and that do, you know, that report and that I get to...
Find out.
Also, just individuals.
I live in a very diverse place, and you don't have to go very far to hear fucking harrowing stories and see people suffering.
I've talked about that a lot already.
Even the anodyne description does not fucking work that way, and it sucks that it doesn't.
Yeah, it kind of does.
They're like, well, it does work that way, kind of, technically, asterisk.
Which is like Channel 4 telling a victim, like, we've got it handled.
Everything's fine.
And she's like, well, I'm still suffering.
And I'm telling you, it's not fine.
They're like, it is fine, though.
Nope.
Not good enough.
So that's, man, oh man, it's, oh, it's bad all the way down.
It's bad all the way down.
It's shit all the way down.
Yeah.
It sucks.
Yeah.
And they're fighting to make it worse all the time.
Yes.
Oh yeah.
The people that you just mentioned in this, like this organization, like.
CIS.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Center for Immigration Studies.
That's how you choose to spend your Their life, your time, your precious moments on this earth.
Not the ceramic figurines, but the spaces of time.
That's how you choose to spend them?
Is this?
Well, I mean, if they don't... I mean, we're all getting replaced, Lauren!
You know, what are we to do?
Yeah, um... So, the main thing they're taking issue with in this article, anyway, is the CBP One app and that kind of... the system and process of allowing people to fly to their nearest port or wherever.
Um, to have an appointment with, um, with, uh, the Board of Authority.
Um, and, uh, I, I personally, I think that system, that particular portion of it, great.
That's definitely, I think it makes a lot of it safer and more efficient.
Um, it's not, uh, it's not necessarily, um.
So, so are we going to talk about the way the app works?
We don't have to.
No, no, I wasn't going to particularly, but.
Well, there's a massive issue.
The thing is, you have to arrive at the border, and then have a phone, have the app, make the appointment, and then just wait.
Very often, outside, very often, weeks to months.
Speaking a different language.
The app is also like only I think it's like in English and Spanish of the myriad languages that show up at our southern border because let's be honest about where we're upset.
Looking at you, Tejas.
Like we know who's upset about this and it's not Canadians.
And that's like there's the app is in and of itself a massive shit show.
It's a massive shit show, but Yeah, I guess it's better than shooting them.
I don't know.
Which also happens.
The thing is, the app is a problem and they're even mad about that.
How are we supposed to do anything?
How are we supposed to do anything?! !
Yeah.
It's crazy!
Because there is the geolocation thing where, with the southern border especially, you know, you have to be shown as being near it on the app before you can make your appointment.
That's not the case in like Venezuela or Haiti, I think.
There are a few places where people fly more so than Then try to gain entry in other ways, and less of an issue there, but yeah, if you're on the southern border.
And the thing is that doesn't, you know, it doesn't resolve the problem of people having to live like that, you know, and that's...
Yeah, there are there are significant there are significant issues.
Well, we're never not going to cover it.
You can look at you know, listeners, you can look elsewhere.
And it's there's plenty of resources.
Absolutely.
To check it out.
I don't you know, I'm I'm also not I'm just here showing up and mentioning a thing, not trying to derail where we're going, but it is so important that like even the solutions and the way that they are explained is so anodyne compared to the actual experience on the ground, which also is all over the place.
So there's like, I mean, to even say that, oh, it's different for Venezuela and Haiti.
And at the same time, like, I know planes get turned right back around from those places and sent back all the time.
It's just, it's such a, it's, oh my God, it's such a bummer.
It's like, wow, understatement.
It's tragic.
It's all tragic.
It sucks.
Look into it, please, please, please, please, please.
I'm sorry I'm giving you so much homework, and we just started class.
Go on.
Sorry.
Yep.
Let's move.
Yeah.
And yeah, here's the other thing, you know, the system, the app that they're complaining about, that they're whinging about, it gets you an appointment.
What then happens at that appointment, assuming you, because you've already mentioned there are multiple barriers to entry to even getting that appointment, and then what happens at that appointment is a different question altogether, right?
So like according to CBS News, migrants in Mexico have used the CBP One app 64.3 million times as of February this year.
So that's between May last year and February, right?
64.3 million times, which includes people like repeatedly doing, you know, trying to get an appointment.
And as of that same time, nearly 450,000 migrants have been allowed into the U.S.
under the process.
So it's very clearly not just a system of, oh, hey, everyone come in and do what you please.
Absolutely not.
That's the presentation that they're offering here.
It's like, oh, yeah, you just sign in onto this app and then you take a flight and then you're in America, everybody, for at least two years.
Congratulations.
Like, no, absolutely not.
But yeah, and it's because of the racist and eugenicist underpinnings of the Great Replacement Theory that articles like this one from the CIS are painting what is a perfectly legal migration and asylum system as allowing criminals and degenerates into the country in the hundreds of thousands.
And then painting it as a conspiracy theory because the Biden administration is supposedly hiding all the numbers and migrants can supposedly, quote, take commercial flights at their own expense, in big air quotes, directly into U.S.
airports where U.S.
customs officers parole them into the nation's sight unseen and in numbers publicly unknown, unquote.
Yeah, so Russell, or let's be honest, Gareth, has taken a look at this article and gone, ooh, this seems a bit Great Replacement Theory-ish, doesn't it?
And they're using it as a jumping off point to make this video that we're going to cover.
I imagine the original poster probably just wanted Russell to talk about the conspiracy theory that's being advanced in that there article, but he got a little bit more bang for his buck, a little more than his money's worth.
Yeah.
No, you're there in the UK, right?
You're there.
Is this a really important news issue for you that affects you directly in your daily life?
Because that's why they would want to bring it up, I would think.
Is there personal experience and concern?
No?
Not so much.
Not so much.
Yeah, hasn't occurred.
I mean, Russell lived in Los Angeles briefly.
No, no, no.
Nope.
Not what I asked.
Yeah, no, we...
Noah is also a fine answer.
Under our southern border is the ocean.
We do have migrant crossings from Calais.
That is a thing that we get riled up about.
That's what the right over here get riled up about.
We've got people coming over from France and that's the thing that they use.
And Russell, funnily enough, does not bring up any amount of UK immigration in this entire piece.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Still very much US-centric.
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