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April 8, 2026 - NXR Podcast
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THE SPECIAL - The America We Grew Up In Is Already Gone

The Special's host argues that modern reliance on submarket foreign labor in Florida agricultural hubs like Plant City and Clueston mirrors 19th-century slavery, citing a trafficked 14-year-old in a Midwest meat plant as proof. He condemns both Democrats for importing voters and Republicans, including the Koch brothers, for exploiting workers while taxpayers subsidize their lives, criticizing Greg Abbott's migrant-busing tactics. Advocating a "restorative" approach over traditional conservatism, he promotes joining Tinder to court female voters and warns that making exceptions for minorities normalizes exploitation, urging a return to the America of the 1990s before elites dismantled working-class power. [Automatically generated summary]

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Rationalizing Moral Depravity 00:07:42
We can't get rid of slavery because it'll destroy the Southern economy.
Can't afford to.
Can't afford to.
Rational doesn't mean it was the moral argument.
It was actually the really bad argument, but it made dollar and cents sense, but it still didn't excuse the moral depravity of child slavery.
Now, the same thing is true today that, well, who's going to put these roofs up?
Who's going to pick these strawberries in Plant City?
Who's going to pick sugar in Clueston and harvest sugar in Bohokie or Bell Glade or citrus in Sebring or Frostproof?
Guess what?
This slanderous lie that Americans won't do this work?
No.
Finish the sentence.
Americans won't do the work at the submarket slave wages that corporate America is willing to pay.
A 30 year old CEO of an investment firm, Fishback says he would build on DeSantis' legacy.
I'm on the phone and I say I will never disavow patriotic Americans.
It is absolutely vital that James Fishback wins.
You know, your governor here in Texas gets a lot of flack.
I got to give him credit on one thing, though.
The best that he's done, I'll give it back to you, but the best that he's done is following DeSantis six months after the fact, which makes me, as a Texan, I actually have a vested interest, believe it or not, in you being the next governor of Florida because I know that my governor, the best that I can expect to be, is to copy you.
Yeah, but go ahead to your point.
So, Greg Abbott, I think, will be written about in the history books in 100 years for one reason and one reason only.
The busing of migrants to New York or Chicago is brilliant.
That was brilliant.
And we didn't even do that in Florida.
The little Martha Vineyard stunt.
I was going to say the Martha Vineyard stunt.
That was a stunt.
That was like 15 people.
The consistent busing of migrants, hundreds a day, every single day, twice on Sunday for two years was brilliant because it took the frustration of border towns in Texas and put it on the doorstep of New York City.
Yes.
Where people in my own life, I don't want to name names, who were Ardent progressives, they did a 180 on the migration issue because all of a sudden they had to deal with what Eagle Pass had to deal with.
And they were seeing it where I knew public school teachers in New York and in Chicago who now had six kids in their class out of 15, and those six didn't speak a word of English.
And what were they doing there?
Right.
What were they doing there?
And that's really frustrating.
You know, the pro America thing to do is not to surrender our classrooms to migrants who have no legal claim to our country and as a result hurt the education.
Of young white boys and young black girls and young American Indian.
Yeah, because always what happens is no child left behind, despite all good intentions.
The practical result of this kind of mindset is a race to the bottom, it's the lowest common denominator.
In a nutshell, we could say there are many things, but one of the major failures of American politics and really just the American mentality, even outside of politicians, your average American, we've all been duped in this regard.
We've made the exception the norm.
We've made the footnote the headline.
And I think that's the best that I could say to kind of steel man the American mentality behind that sentiment.
It's because I think Americans are uniquely compassionate people.
They are uniquely sympathetic people.
And so, because of that, and that bent towards compassion, that bent towards, because America, let's be honest, it's not just something in the blood, it's something in the religion.
Water is stronger than blood.
Baptism, which saves you, according to St. Peter, Americans are Christian.
Not all of them, but that is our heritage.
And many of them still are.
And there's something about that Christian background that makes them sympathetic, that makes them compassionate.
They think of the sojourner, they think of the oppressed, they think of the poor, they think of the disenfranchised.
But the problem is when that becomes public policy for the whole.
Instead of generosity towards the fringe, generosity towards the minority, it becomes the streamlined policy for the whole.
What you end up with is ninth graders who can't read, right?
Because everything is a race to the bottom.
I think of adoption.
I was adopted and I praise God, adopted twice, one by my heavenly father and conversion, but also by my earthly parents, my adoptive parents.
And if I hadn't been, my life would have been a wreck.
My life has already been somewhat of a wreck, but it would have been a real.
But I think of adoption, and I think adoption is a picture of the gospel.
It's a beautiful and wonderful thing.
That said, what we're doing in America when it comes to immigration is it would be the equivalent of a singular household, a family, having three biological children and then not adopting one or two, but adopting 30.
Yeah.
That's not viable.
It's not sustainable.
And what you're actually doing is it may start as compassion to the stranger, but what it ends up being is utter neglect and, in a sense, real hostility and hatred of your own.
We cannot love the stranger at the expense of our neighbors.
And liberals will be the first to levy the words of Christ love your neighbor, love your neighbor.
And my response is I'm trying.
I'm trying to love my Native American citizens.
I'm trying to love my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.
Meanwhile, you have the words of Christ weaponized by a color revolution and communist Marxists who hate Christ.
If we really could give them some truth serum and get them to tell the world.
Well, you haven't been to a church in 15 years.
Right.
And yet, they're levying the words of Christ, weaponizing them, not for true love of neighbor, but to the extent of the cost of their neighbors for a foreigner.
And here's the deal my position, people probably don't think this about me.
They probably think I hate foreigners, which I don't.
It's actually not their fault.
If I lived in a difficult, challenging, corrupt, impoverished country, I would be doing everything I could to get my family here.
I don't blame them for that.
I blame our civil leaders who have orchestrated this migration and the replacement of our native people.
They're the ones who are at fault.
And so back to you.
But the point is just this making the exception, the norm, the footnote, the headline, where everything is a race to the bottom, that we're thinking about an individual at the cost of the whole.
That's exactly right.
And Part of it too is, I'm glad you said what I think we all deep down know is why are we blaming migrants when Republicans and Democrats for years have created this system, this open border system?
Democrats because they want more votes, Republicans because they want cheap foreign labor to pad their profit margins and roll up to the next private equity entity.
Let's just get real about that.
Now, the migrants who come here and live off the state, it's easy to blame them, and you should.
Exploitation of Third World Migrants 00:04:39
They bear responsibility for dispossessing us of taxpayer benefits.
But why are we letting the state give them those resources in the first place?
There's this idea that illegal immigration, illegal immigration, yes, illegal immigration is wrong.
We know that.
But what about mass migration through legal means?
What about programs like H 1B or H 2A or TPS?
Hundreds of thousands of Haitians in our country.
I'm sure they're great people.
But at the end of the day, they need to stay and make their country great.
Why are they entitled to taxpayer benefits?
Remember, Illegals absolutely get taxpayer benefits.
People who absolutely, absolutely get taxpayer benefits, anybody on asylum status, anybody on refugee, anybody on TPS, anybody on an immigration visa, is able to get those taxpayer benefits.
They are treated just as you, just as me would be if we were to walk in there and say we need help.
I have a crazy belief, which is that, yeah, if a mom and dad have three kids and the dad loses his job, we should take care of them.
Not forever, but we should.
Be that safety net.
Now, the safety net should not become the safety couch, the safety jacuzzi, the safety temperpedic.
It should be more like a safety trampoline.
You fall on it, you bounce back up.
We should not stigmatize people who need social services to get back on their feet.
There should absolutely be an active work requirement to receive those benefits, seeking work.
And then once you get it, we ease you off of it.
But the truth is, we only have our leaders to blame for enabling this great transfer payment away from American citizens, away from the productive, away from our retirees to a foreign class of slaves who are living off of our hard work and labor.
It's always been the question for America who's going to pick the cotton?
Right.
Whether it was the slaves and, you know, whether it was the immigrants.
And maybe one day Elon Musk will solve the problem forever.
It'll be robots, you know.
So that's a real possibility.
And if so, hasten the day, Lord Jesus.
But just to the cotton picking argument for a second, which is, I mean, that in more ways than one, right?
The cotton picking argument.
But wait one cotton picking minute.
Wait a cotton picking minute.
It was a very rational argument.
During the time of slavery, which was, we can't get rid of slavery because it'll destroy the southern economy.
Can't afford to.
Can't afford to.
Rational doesn't mean it was the moral argument.
It was actually the really bad argument, but it made dollar and cents sense, but it still didn't excuse the moral depravity of chattel slavery.
Now, the same thing is true today that, well, who's going to put these roofs up?
Who's going to pick these strawberries in Plant City?
Who's going to pick sugar in Clueston and harvest sugar in Bohokie or Bell Glade or citrus in Sebring or Frostproof?
Guess what?
This slanderous lie that Americans won't do this work?
No.
Finish the sentence.
Americans won't do the work at the submarket slave wages that corporate America is willing to pay.
Corporate America has gotten away for decades now with importing cheap foreigners, dispossessing Americans, our brothers and sisters, of a good job and a good livelihood because they wanted to pad their profit margins.
And guess what?
Guess what?
We can deliver great paying jobs.
We can pick strawberries.
We can do landscaping because my dad did it.
My dad was a landscaper.
He was a tree trimmer for 20 years.
And guess what?
People still hired him.
His prices were not exorbitant, but we have to decide what kind of country do we want.
If you want the cheapest labor possible, and by the way, we don't directly pay labor costs, we pay it through the company that's offering up that good or service.
If you want the cheapest slave labor possible, then guess what?
Bring back slavery.
Abolish 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments.
Bring back slavery in this country.
If your whole goal is, well, how are we going to pay for it?
We need cheap labor.
Who's going to do this job?
Well, then let's just enslave a bunch of Africans again.
Of course not.
We're not saying that.
Well, then why is it okay to enslave Central South Americans?
Let's have some respect, by the way, for the migrants.
The 14 year old boy in the Midwest at the New York Times, of all people, covered in 2022, whose arm was sucked into a meat processing machine, who lost his arm, a 14 year old.
The New York Times wrote about it, perhaps the only honest piece of journalism they've done in years, called The Kids Who Work the Midnight Shift.
And it was all about kids from Central and South America.
Who had been trafficked into our country as economic migrants to work late night shifts at multi billionaire meat processors in the Midwest.
Enslaving Central South Americans 00:03:05
That is modern day slavery.
And one, that resonates with Republicans, but we can also find favor with our friends on the left and say we should be against all forms of slavery.
And that is no different.
I'm not mincing words.
That is no different than the conditions of a lot of slaves in the 1850s.
And the sooner that we're honest about that, we can make this conversation about working class people, about standing up for the wage theft of American citizens and the exploitation of Americans, yes, but also the exploitation of third world migrants like that 14 year old boy.
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Profiting from Cheap Labor Systems 00:15:37
He did not come here.
He did not come here.
To steal, he came here because he was trafficked by billion dollar corporations because they wanted cheap labor and they weren't willing to pay people who look like you and me to do that work.
You're right.
I'll go one step further.
You said there's no difference between that and the slavery that we've had in the past here in America.
And I would actually argue that there are a couple differences.
In the case of corporate billion dollar, you know, behemoth companies, they're able to pay.
$5 an hour, $3 an hour to a 14 year old boy.
And that's their only obligation.
Slaveholders in the past had to provide housing, meals, clothing, all these different things.
Now, some of them were abusive, some of them were benevolent, right?
You can read old diaries of slaves.
Yeah, my master was a Christian man.
He taught me how to read.
And I'm not justifying it.
I'm not saying that, hey, we should bring that back.
But I'm just saying if we want to be brutally honest for a moment, the corporation slave master, That plantation that we currently have with foreigners in our nation, they don't care at all.
They have zero obligations.
See, in their case, they can pay the cheapest of wages.
They don't actually have to make sure that the person is housed or anything.
They actually, it's the equivalent of having a slave master.
But everyone else, you get to own the slave and get the production from the slave.
But everyone else, through their taxes, has to pay for the housing of the slave, has to pay for the provisions of the slave, the food stamps.
Back in the day, the guy who got the work also had to pay the bills.
He had to pay for the slaves' quarters, his housing, his food, his clothing, those kinds of things.
Today, these companies that we have in America that are importing the equivalent of wage slaves, all they have to do is pay the peanuts' wages.
And then it's actually the taxpayers in America that have to cover through subsidizing everything else.
So, in some ways, the argument could be made that it's actually even more immoral, that it's actually worse.
It's not only a form of slavery.
But it's also theft from your actual native citizens, your actual neighbors at the same time.
Correct.
And there's this idea that was actually popular on the left, Bernie Sanders left for years, and it's right is what Walmart is doing is when they pay somebody $8, $9 an hour, they're asking you and me and everybody watching to cover the other half of the bill because that person can't live on $8, $9 an hour.
And so we've got to pay for their food stamps, we got to pay for their housing, we got to pay for their Medicaid.
And so, paying a market wage, a dignified wage to American workers, it's the right thing to do for the workers.
It's also the right thing to do for the rest of us.
Because when you get paid a dignified market wage by Walmart or by that meat processor, that means we don't have to shoulder the burden as taxpayers to pay for your health care, for your food stamps, for your housing, and et cetera.
And it means that the goods and services now cost more.
But it also means that, you know, as the tide rises, so do all the ships.
If the baseline entry level jobs in our nation begin to pay livable wages, what does that do to everybody else's vocation?
And so it's like, well, the prices go up in terms of the market and Walmart's products.
Now I have to, instead of paying through taxes through the state, actually, they get the full wage now, the Walmart employee, but now I have to pay the full prices at Walmart.
Correct.
But because these guys now have a livable wage and are stimulating the economy, your job is paying you more to where you can afford those prices.
So right now, Your job and your wage is actually suffering because of the lowest common denominator, and you're paying still the full prices of Walmart goods, half of it at Walmart, and the other half on your taxes.
So, no matter how you slice it, these are the kinds of issues that every American, if they were just educated a little bit, regardless of political allegiance, I think that these are the kinds of issues that everybody could come around to, where you could actually have a bipartisan agreement on both sides of the aisle.
In fact, The common denominator of who would disagree wouldn't be left versus right.
It wouldn't be black versus white.
In this case, it wouldn't even be Christian versus Muslim or something.
It would literally just be elites versus plebes.
You know, all of us, everybody else, the only people who would fight against this, it wouldn't be from a religious standpoint or a racial standpoint.
It would be from a, it would be an economic class.
It would be the billionaires.
It would be the people who profit.
The people who profit the most in being able to pay the cheapest wages, bring down the bottom line as far as possible, squeeze out the largest profit margins, and push the bill on the state, which means ultimately push the bill on us, the taxpayer.
The state is the intermediary for screwing us and raising that tax.
They're the only ones who would object.
Correct.
It would be billionaires who are Republicans, it would be billionaires who are Democrats.
It would be the billionaires.
The Koch brothers have been open borders for years.
They fund the Cato Institute, which is unapologetically an open border institution.
These think tanks have all been shills, even the conservative ones for the open border.
What they've told you for years is illegal immigration, illegal immigration, but they said nothing about H2A, H2B.
I was at Disney a couple of weeks ago and I'm sitting there and I'm getting popcorn.
And the person serving me popcorn is an 18 year old from the Philippines.
And then I go on the ride Space Mountain and the person checking my ticket, my Fastpass, is a 20 year old from Thailand.
And then I go and get that delicious Dole Whip, that pineapple Dole Whip they have at Magic Kingdom.
And it's a 22 year old from Brazil.
What on earth is Disney doing?
There are 18, 19, and 22 year olds in my state who could take those jobs, who'd be proud to take those jobs.
And so here's my rule as governor Disney and any company like you, you're going to hire from the local community.
You're not going to have an option or you're not going to have a business in my state, full stop.
Because guess what?
That 18 or 19 year old, they were going to use that job not just for the income to get a started life, but what does that job do for a young man or a young woman?
It gives them that discipline.
It gives them that self sufficiency of showing up to work early, of staying late, of accountability, of skin in the game, of consequences for your action.
And guess what?
When you do a really good job, feeling good because your boss and your patrons praised you.
That is being robbed from our country right now.
Disney is just one example.
Hotels all over Orlando, Tampa, Miami are relying on cheap foreign labor from the Philippines.
All of it is legal.
All of it is legal.
So all of the finger.
Wagging about illegal immigration is going to fall on deaf ears on this particular instance because this is all blessed by the elites in Washington, D.C., by Republican donors and Democrat donors.
We can't hire kids from Miami Gardens.
They wouldn't do a job like this.
How on earth would you know?
When's the last time you went to Carol City?
When's the last time you went to my high school at Boyd H. Anderson?
I was one of two white kids in the entire senior class.
When's the last time you went to my school and held a job fair for Disney, for Marriott, for Universal Studios?
You're a business owner in Florida?
You run a theme park, a hotel chain, or a restaurant, get used to hiring local laborers, or we're going to tax you into oblivion.
I am not going to play this game where it's we're all neutral.
We're neutral on the question of importing cheap foreign slave labor and dispossessing young black boys and black girls and white boys and white girls from my communities from having a job, from having a lively life.
Look, if you don't have a job, you don't have an income.
If you don't have an income, you can't buy a home.
If you can't buy a home, you can't get married.
If you can't get married, you can't have kids.
If you can't have kids, what's the point?
Play the full arc of this out, and it is disastrous.
It is existential to the future of our country.
And I'm not going to tolerate it.
And by the way, if I walked into the Democrat meeting that's going to happen in Broward County next week, and I said, raise of hands, who supports what I just said as a policy?
90% of the hands would go up.
90% of the hands would go up.
And I think as conservatives, we have to get real for a second.
There ain't a lot to conserve right now.
No.
We should be calling ourselves restoratives.
I want to restore the America that I had in the 90s, that you had growing up in the 1820s.
Yeah, you can't conserve what you've already lost.
You have to get it back first, and then you have to fight to keep it.
I mean, that's the original cultural mandate that's given by God to Adam in the garden to work and to keep.
Work to grow, to nurture, to expand, to increase.
To keep, that is to guard, to defend.
Right now, we need to work, right?
The keeping is the luxury of winning, right?
You can have that luxury of defending and guarding when you have something worth defending and guarding.
That assumes that you haven't already lost it.
But the verdict has come back in.
It's official.
We have lost the America that we once knew.
It's gone.
And that's why MAGA and those kinds of things initially resonated with people.
Make America great again.
It implies at least two things that America once actually was great, that we don't hate our heritage and we don't hate our history.
There was greatness in the past.
And it also implies we need to make America great again, meaning that it was great in the past and presently it's not.
Presently we actually have keeping to do, no, working to do.
Work first, keep second.
And conservatives have to learn that, like, it's gentlemen, this is a football, right?
Back to basics, back to the fundamentals.
Um, you work first, you keep second, right?
We've lost, we didn't keep, we've lost.
So, therefore, uh, every single GOP candidate should be running on a restoring ticket, not a conserving ticket.
That is so simple and so clear.
And going back to the Democrats for just a moment, you're absolutely right.
Most Democrats, at least the people, Not the politicians necessarily, but the people, they would agree with that sentiment.
The Democrat Party used to be, among many things, but one that stands out, they used to be the party of labor, right?
They were the labor party that would defend the working class man.
It was Barbara Jordan from right here in Texas who actually defended white men and black men from being able to get a job and not be fired and replaced by illegal immigrants.
Right.
So that was, I mean, that was a whole Democrat campaign.
The problem is that a lot of the Democrat people, Have ultimately been supplanted by the Democrat elites, by the politicians themselves.
And the politicians stopped caring about their constituents because they realized they actually didn't have to care, right?
Because typically a politician is thinking, I need to make my people happy because if I don't, then I'm going to be thrown out on the street, right?
I need to keep the people happy so that I'll be reelected.
But the Democrats found out another way.
They found out that instead of working to keep their voters happy, they could actually import voters.
And the moment that the Democrats figured that out and began using that as one of their premier, you know, Political strategies, then all of a sudden, it's palpable.
You could see in like overnight, so quickly and very stark, real terms, all the rhetoric of defending the laborer, defending the blue collar American worker, his dignity, his wages, his job, those kinds of things.
That just became utterly absent from the Democrat Party.
Instead, it all shifted.
And this is not, people need to realize this.
It's not a coincidence.
So, Democrats who were once the defenders of the average American worker became The arbiters, right, of fighting against racism.
Why?
Because they had new constituents to defend, right?
Well, they started caring about heritage, American blacks.
No, that's not so much.
There would be the guise of that.
But what are they really after?
They were carving out the rhetoric and the party's platform to defend all these other people who are not of European descent, who are currently in their districts.
No.
The ones that they planned to import that would be in their districts.
So it was weakening the American resolve through, you know, Marxist terms and all these different things playing on the heartstrings of well intended Americans who want to be compassionate, who want to care.
Meanwhile, it wasn't actually about lifting up, you know, minority ethnicities that are actually here in America and can trace their history, multiple generations in our country, but to pave the road to import a new voting class.
And you're right, the Republicans, their incentive, a A cheap labor class, the Democrats, their incentive, a free voting class that will vote for them no matter what.
And they don't actually have to offer anything in return.
They don't have to do anything.
They just have to say, We're the party that will let you stay and also let your aunt and your uncle and your grandma and your grandpa, then they all get to come too.
And we all know this.
We all know this.
And it's kind of shocking to me.
It's really shocking that a platform like yours and some of the political arguments and rhetoric that guys like you are using.
It's almost surprising that it's taken this long for someone to see, right?
It's like there's a crown in the gutter.
And it's been there for a few decades now.
And it's not like some, you know, it's not that it's all like hidden.
Like it's very visible, it's blatant.
It's like a glorious, shimmering crown, right?
Laden with gold and diamond.
And it's right there.
And everyone has been able to see it.
And everyone keeps walking by it.
Like it's actually shocking, even from.
Even from like not even noble incentives, but thinking, you know, like most politicians, even from just a standpoint of total human depravity, right?
You would think that just for the purposes and motives of self gain, that somebody would have figured this out, right?
It's so obvious.
It just feels like the elephant in the room.
And I'm surprised that politicians, that it took people this long to realize wait a second.
Oh my goodness, these are resonating.
Political talking points.
This is something that not only will I be able to win the base on this side of the political aisle, but this crosses the aisle.
This is like a large sector of the American populace all resonate with these kinds of talking points.
And it's kind of shocking that it took until the year of our Lord, 2026, for someone to pick up on it.
Well, you said a lot there.
And I agree with the fact that the Republican Party is full of feckless losers who are not.
Good at rhetoric, not good at messaging, just good at regurgitating the same slop handed down to them by consultants.
Resonating Political Talking Points 00:05:23
We have a choice in front of us.
What vision?
And perhaps it's no better time than this choice to be before us at the 250th anniversary of our brave founding fathers declaring independence.
Let's reassert those ideals from 1776 because our founding fathers would not be happy to know that we are talking about these issues now, 250 years ago.
250 years later, there's, I think, this frustration with Republican politicians who say all the right things, but don't ever have a plan to do anything.
Right.
And so the next time a Republican tells you, we're going to do this, we're going to do it, we need to stand up against, ask them how.
How?
I'm not a politician.
I have zero political experience.
I don't want to catfish anybody.
I was on Tinder last week, but I don't want to catfish anybody.
I have zero political experience.
My experience comes from the private sector.
Real quick.
Why were you on Tinder?
You got to explain that one because otherwise, my listeners and myself are like gross.
So, I joined Tinder as a political candidate to quote meet female voters where they are.
And I did it because I believe that if you're running for an office as important as Florida governor, you have to break out of the political mainstream.
You have to break into the mainstream mainstream.
And this announcement that I was joining Tinder, not in a Let's pull chicks' way, but in a let's meet women where they are, where they least expect us.
Let's share our policies for how we're going to make it easier for them to get married, to have kids, to raise a family on a single income.
That's what I want to get to.
It got over 7 million views in 72 hours.
Wow.
And 4,000 matches.
And of course, Tinder banned me.
They didn't want a conservative campaigning on their platform.
But it was, I think, another example of our campaign doing things that are edgy.
But they're actually just also common sense.
Another thing is, we're visiting every county's Waffle House in Florida before the election.
And why?
Because you deserve a governor that you can see, talk to, and in Waffle House's case, even yell at.
I want people to see me where they are.
I don't use DoorDash.
I don't have groceries delivered to my house.
Even to this day that I'm campaigning, I still drive myself.
I enjoy being out there, just who I am.
I remember growing up and walking to the grocery store with my sister and going with my grandmother and just being kind of an independent kid.
And that's the kind of person that I am to this day.
And I credit my parents for raising me that way, my sister that way.
It's just natural for me.
It's not natural, with all due respect to Congressman Donalds, to go to Waffle House.
Perhaps it is natural for him to cheat.
At his wife, you know, behind his back, behind her back, joining Tinder.
But it's natural for me to show up at these places.
So I'll show up there.
And we, most recent one, we were at St. Pete and we had 70 people packed to a crowded Waffle House on a Tuesday night.
And I was just taking questions.
People would come for four or five minutes.
They would sit down.
I was munching on different things and they would ask me questions.
And I would just give them straight answers.
We were live streaming it.
We had about 10,000 people tuning in on X and on Instagram.
And it's just, it's a campaign that if I can sum up in one word, it is.
Motion.
It is motion, but it's also serendipity.
It's fun.
It is spontaneous.
Our schedule is set, but there's so much of our campaign that is free will that is just of the moment.
Let's do this.
Let's just go.
Let's just be spontaneous.
That's, I think, how you need to be as a leader as well is okay, cool.
We said we were going to do it this way, but really what we committed to doing was getting it done.
There are multiple ways to achieve that outcome.
Why are we obsessing?
Merely over the legislative path to achieve that outcome.
Have we also entertained the executive action path?
Have we also entertained the judicial path?
Let's exhaust every single option, but our commitment was to get the job done.
How we get it done, you hired me to do that, but you hired me to get it done.
Let me and my team get it done for you, however we think is best fit.
Right.
Well said.
All right.
Well, thank you.
This has been a helpful episode.
I think we're getting more of a picture of who you are.
Your policies, what you stand for, what you're campaigning on.
And like with most politicians, the best that you can hope is that they govern at least somewhat similar to how they campaign.
And if that's the case with you, then I think that Florida is in for a treat.
I think that your campaign gives hope to American people where they're at.
It gives hope, especially to American Christians wanting some semblance of righteousness and integrity in politics, in American politics, once again.
And I'm hopeful.
I'm prayerful.
And I hope that our listeners have benefited from this episode.
And I appreciate your time.
Thanks, Joel.
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