The Livestream outlines four pillars for saving America: explicit Christian nationalism, patriarchal male leadership, race realism to protect European demographics, and anti-Zionist policies banning dual citizenship. The speaker argues that rejecting these principles allows Jewish influence and globalism to corrupt the nation, proposing measures like capital punishment for violent criminals to control fertility and eliminate usury. He predicts that implementing these changes will restore a 70-80% white European population within decades, lower taxes, and require a "functional king" presidency to overcome judicial limits, ultimately transforming the US into a stable constitutional republic akin to El Salvador. [Automatically generated summary]
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Why We Need Christian Nationalism00:14:56
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It's no secret.
Everybody is aware.
I am a Christian nationalist.
And what that means is that I would like to see every nation on the planet be.
Christian, explicitly Christian, not just a few people who are privately practicing their faith and the secrecy of their homes, but that nations actually explicitly and publicly declare allegiance to the Lord Jesus Christ.
That said, I'm also an American.
So most of my energy is going to be devoted towards what it would look like to have a Christian nation here.
My main focus is not going to be Christian nationalism for Somalia.
That would be great, but that's God's providence.
Not my main goal, right?
He placed me here for such a time as this.
That's going to be my focus.
So, Christian nationalism, I believe, is paramount, right?
We can't have globalism, the gay race communism.
We can't have that.
It needs to be distinct nations.
God created nations.
This is not a man made idea of we're going to put in borders and, you know, no.
The book of Acts, chapter 17, explicitly says that God sets nations' borders.
He does this by providence, he does it by wars, he does it by whatever means.
There are human means, and some of them may be ethical, some of them are not.
Ethical, but over it all, standing God is sovereign.
He's the one who causes nations to rise and to fall.
He sets their borders, and Acts 17 says he also sets their times when a nation comes into being and when a nation fades.
So, nations are God's idea.
They're God's idea.
So, we want nationalism, and if we're going to have nationalism, we want it to be Christian.
We don't want secular humanistic nationalism.
We don't want Islamic nationalism.
We don't want Hindu nationalism.
We don't want Judeo nationalism.
We want Christian nationalism.
Nationalism, all right.
So everybody's aware of that.
But as I see it here on the ground in these United States of America, we are seeing the right fracture more and more and more.
And it's not great.
I'll shoot you straight.
It's not great.
At the same time, it is.
I would rather have MAGA or whatever you want to call it, I'd rather have the right, political right here in America fracture and at least have a small group.
I'd like it to be a large group, but for now, a small group that is true and noble.
And uncompromising than to have the whole thing synced up together, but all of it being wicked, all of it being compromised, all of it being a sham.
And so I think what we're seeing right now is we are starting to see some of the division between parts of MAGA that are, you know, MIGA, right?
Make Israel great again, Israel first, and then other parts that are actually truly America first.
And so this idea of America first, you're hearing about this all the time.
Guys have been talking about America first for quite a while.
Nick Fuentes is one of them.
There have been others as well.
Trump, you know, I mean, his first term, like that was a big, big theme, you know, make America great again.
So far, it's only been six months.
We'll see what God does.
But so far in the second term, it has been a little bit disappointing to say the least.
We are not getting the mass deportations, at least not yet.
We are getting, instead, we're getting bills, you know, that say, hey, if you're in a tornado and you tweeted something negative about Israel, then you're going to die.
That's, I mean, that's not great.
That's, you know, I got what I voted for.
Well, I don't know about you, but I did actually not vote for that.
I did not vote for pledging allegiance to Israel in order to get aid if I'm living in a state or a city that's experiencing a natural disaster.
I'm pretty sure, maybe I've forgotten, you know, maybe my memory is failing me, but I'm pretty sure that that is not what I voted for.
So we want America first.
We want Christian nationalism.
And what I wanted to discuss in this video is four pillars of America first Christian nationalism.
What does that look like?
And I'm going to list them right now and then we'll get in it.
I've got my co host, Wesley Todd.
We're going to talk about it and break each of these down.
But they're key.
They're key because there's a lot of guys who are going to come in and say, Hey, I'm America first.
Or a lot of guys say, I'm Christian nationalist.
And you have to be able to discern what kind of Christian nationalist are you?
Oh, you know, the Judeo Christian nationalist version.
Oh, okay.
Then no, you're not on the team.
No, thank you.
We're not doing Judeo Christian nationalism.
And we're not doing.
Israel first with America as a close second.
No, it's America first, full stop, and it's Christian nationalism, not Judeo Christian nationalism, full stop.
So, four different pillars for a true American first Christian nationalism to save our country, to save the West.
Here they are.
Number one, it must be publicly and explicitly Christian.
Publicly and explicitly Christian.
Yes, I believe that the founders, as much as I love and appreciate many of them, I think that it was a mistake to be vague.
I think they should have adopted the Apostles' Creed as a preamble to the Constitution from the very beginning, and they should have named the Lord Jesus Christ in the Constitution.
I'm like, honestly, I'll just be frank.
I'm tired of going back and having to argue with libs and Christians, but I repeat myself libs, and tell them, but what was the founder's actual intent?
We got to get back to authorial intent.
Well, what the First Amendment simply means, Congress, you know, at the federal, national level, Can't appoint one denomination, you know, the Church of Anglicanism for the United States or Episcopalianism or Presbyterianism.
You know, I'd say Baptist, but that would never happen.
The Baptist, there's more Baptists than anybody else, but Baptists are absolutely devoted, fully devoted to losing no matter what.
So it was never going to be a Baptist thing.
Sadly, I am a Baptist, but my goodness, you know, I just tweeted out, you know, there are some days that it's incredibly embarrassing to be a Baptist.
And somebody, you know, commented and said, is it the days that end and why?
Yeah, you know what?
It is.
Every day is a little bit embarrassing to be a Baptist, but there are some days that are incredibly embarrassing, a high degree of embarrassment.
But the point is yeah, the First Amendment, it's talking about Congress declaring at the national level.
Of the 13 original colonies, 10 or 11 of them already had state churches.
So there's nothing against state churches.
And here's the biggest thing separation of church and state.
Okay, sure.
Separation of Christ and state?
No, no.
No, it must be theocratic.
There must be a God above the state.
If there's no God above the state, then the state becomes God, right?
So, this separation of, okay, well, there's the state here and then there's the church, speaking of the church institute, right?
The institution of the church denominations, you know, Roman Catholics on one side and then Presbyterians over here and Episcopalians over here.
Yeah, the church institute should be, I think, you can make an argument of that being separate from the state.
But the idea that religion would be separate from the state, that Christianity would be separate from the state, that there'd be a separation from God in the state, that's demonic.
That's demonic.
And I don't believe that's what the founders intended.
But yeah, it sure would have helped if they had been a little bit more explicit, a little bit more explicit.
So then let's fix that.
So, the first pillar of how to save America, America first Christian nationalism, the very first pillar is explicit public declaration to Christian faith, to Christianity, to the Lord Jesus Christ.
It needs to be on paper, it needs to be said explicitly.
We are a Christian nation.
We worship the triune God.
Christ is king.
Christ is king.
He is king of all kings, and he is the king of these United States.
So that's number one.
It must be explicitly and publicly Christian.
Number two, number two is that it must be patriarchal.
Guys, we are not going to win if we are continued to be led by women.
We're not.
Guys, it's a joke.
It's a joke.
We just have to be honest.
I know that there are some women who have exercised some degree of courage and have done some good things.
I get it.
I get it.
But that shouldn't be the case.
And I'm not trying to beat up all these women and say that I hate them or they're terrible.
But I'm saying, okay, but at a certain point, we have to say that's enough.
We need men in leadership.
We do not need videos from the White House of women holding ARs and wearing their hat backwards and being butched.
And that is a joke.
That's a joke.
That is embarrassing.
That's embarrassing.
I don't want to live in an embarrassing country.
That puts women in combat and that puts women in Congress.
No.
The book of Isaiah in the Bible explicitly says that one form of God's judgment on a nation is that women and children rule over them.
That they're ruled by women and children.
The Bible, what you're bragging about, and I'm not talking about Joe Biden, I'm not talking about the Democrats, I'm talking about Donald Trump, I'm talking about JD Vance, I'm talking about the Republicans, the GOP.
What you're bragging about, God's word, and you call yourself Christian.
God's word says that what you're bragging about as though it's a strength is actually a form of God's judgment.
Psalm chapter 2 He who sits in the heavens laughs and is holding you in derision until you come in alignment with his natural order.
God is not an egalitarian.
There is a hierarchy, there is a natural order.
And when you go with the grain, God blesses.
When you go against the grain, God curses.
It is a curse, it is a judgment for a nation to be ruled by children and by women.
I think we could, you know, without doing too much eisegesis, but extrapolating by, you know, way of being implicit, I think we could say women, children, and geriatric elderly people who should be in nursing homes and can barely walk and barely speak, right?
I think that that's probably fair to include that as a form of God's judgment as well.
So it's got to be explicitly Christian, right?
Publicly Christian, declaring allegiance as a nation, a national covenant with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Second, it has to be male led.
It has to be patriarchal.
It has to be husbands.
It has to be fathers.
It has to be brothers.
It has to be sons.
There has to be masculine leadership and courage.
Men and women are not the same.
We love women.
People all the time, they're like, You're a misogynist.
And I'll be like, No, no, thank you.
Please get it right.
I am a sexist, not a misogynist.
A misogynist is someone who hates women.
I don't hate women.
I have four daughters and a wife, and I love them immensely.
I'd be willing to die for them.
I'm not a misogynist, but I am a sexist.
You bet your bottom dollar I'm a sexist.
I believe there are two sexes, and those two sexes mean something that they're absolutely different and they are geared and designed by God to do different things for different purposes.
And leading a nation as a political civil officer is not within the God ordered wheelhouse of femininity.
It's not, right?
Here's the third so explicitly Christian, it's got to be unapologetically patriarchal.
Third, race realism.
It's not just Christian.
Now, listen to me.
Christian is at the top of the list for a reason, right?
There is a pecking order here.
Christian comes first.
Christian comes first.
Your European heritage is not enough to save the West, right?
You can keep your European heritage and then go and worship Thor and Odin and run around in the woods like Bronze Age pervert.
And that's not going to do it.
That's not going to cut it.
We don't win that way.
It has to be Christian.
That said, race is real.
Race is real.
And I understand that race isn't the best word.
But you can say, well, why not just say nationality?
Because there's a bunch of Haitians that are calling themselves Americans and they're not.
So we can talk about nationhood, but we'd have to talk about nations of origin.
We'd have to go back a little bit.
The problem is that we've mixed all the nations up, right?
Through globalism, what we've done is we've imported every nation of the world into our country.
So now when we say nationality, it doesn't mean anything.
What kind of nationality?
Is it European American, African American?
Is it Asian American?
Is it Hindu American?
Is it like.
So, yes, until somebody finds a better word, then I think race is going to have to suffice.
Race realism.
Now, notice I'm not saying race essentialism.
There are guys who will tell you it's all about race.
It's only about race.
That it really doesn't matter if you're Christian or if you're pagan or if you're Muslim, just as long as it's this particular race, as long as it's white, then we'll be okay.
I reject that.
No, it must be Christian and it must be patriarchal.
But that said, we do need to protect the original founding demographics of our country.
If our country became Christian and was patriarchal, but over the next 50 years, there were virtually no European descendants left, and it was just 300 million Indians.
Were converted to Christianity and moved here and displaced all the founding stock of the country.
That's not a win.
It's not.
That is a tragedy.
You have to see that as an injustice.
You have to see that is immoral.
That is wicked.
The founders of this nation, they told us who they were doing it for, for us and our posterity.
They weren't doing it for India.
They weren't doing it for Somalians.
The Four Pillars of Our Nation00:15:03
It is actually a breach of the fifth commandment to look to your fathers and spit in their face and say, You worked and bled and died to save up this inheritance for me and my children and my children's children.
Well, tough.
I'm going to give it all away.
I'm going to give it to strangers.
I'm going to give it to foreigners.
I'm going to give it to people that you did not know nor did you care for.
I'm taking your inheritance that you worked to build and I'm squandering it.
The Bible doesn't allow us to do that.
The Bible tells us to be good stewards.
The Bible tells us to honor our fathers.
The Bible tells us that we should have a love for neighbor.
And yes, everyone in the world is a neighbor.
But there's also an argument, a biblical argument for proximity.
People will say, well, what about the Good Samaritan, right?
He was a different ethnicity, nationality, race, whatever you want to call it, from the person who was mugged and left to die.
Yeah, but even in that case, here's the thing.
It wasn't that every Samaritan had a moral obligation to help that man who had been beaten half to death.
It was that one Samaritan.
Why?
Because he was there.
He was there.
Proximity.
He was right there.
If somebody of a different national origin is in the street in front of my house, got hit by a car, left for dead, is bleeding out, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to help them.
I'm going to pray for them.
I'm going to call an ambulance.
I'm going to try to stop the bleeding.
I'm going to do everything I can.
To help save that person's life, whether they're of European descent or not, because I'm there.
I'm there.
But the idea that love for neighbor and using the Good Samaritan parable, the idea that that means that we should import people from 2,000 miles away, from 4,000 miles away on the other side of the world and make them come here and make ourselves that we have a moral obligation that's not rooted in kin and it's also not rooted in proximity.
It's rooted in nothing.
It's ethereal, it's just this universal.
If everyone's special, no one is.
If you're obligated to everyone, you're obligated to no one.
That's why liberals like globalism, right?
Because they can say, well, we care about all the people in the world, which ultimately is used as an excuse for them not to care about their people so that they can live in gated communities with private security while the rest of their country, the rest of their kinsmen, are ultimately being eroded and falling apart.
And they can clean their hands and wipe their mouth like the proverb saying, I have done no wrong.
I have done no wrong.
Now, that's not an argument of universal love.
That is a thin veneer of universal global love in order to work as a smokescreen for having an absence of any love, that there's no devotion, there's no obligation, there's no commitment to anyone, right?
So, yes, it does matter the original founding demographics of a nation and seeking for those to remain intact.
Who are the people that the founders gave their lives for?
For us and our posterity, who are those people?
Are we doing right by those people?
Or are we doing right by H 1B visas?
Are we doing right by everyone else in the world?
Doing right by Israel?
Doing right by this group and by that group at the expense of the people who are the direct descendants of the guys who built the country?
Okay, so race realism, explicitly, publicly Christian, unapologetically patriarchal, male led, race realism.
Not essentialism, Christian.
Race is not enough.
But it does matter.
Christian first, but race also.
And then lastly, anti Zionism.
It cannot be Judeo Christian nationalism.
It can't.
It must be Christian nationalism.
And I hear from conservatives all the time.
You guys see it as well.
And I hear from Christians all the time, especially Protestants, of which I am one.
I hear from them all the time.
We don't win.
Without some kind of, you know, we've got to work with these conservative Jews.
Like, yeah, yeah, they're not Christians.
Yes, they reject Jesus.
Yes, some of their religious texts say that Jesus is burning in hell.
But they're really based, they're really conservative.
You know, they want the same things that we want.
And we don't get Christian nationalism without a partnership, without giving the right hand of fellowship to this group of antichrists.
That's what Judaism is.
It's Antichrist.
And so, unless we form an allegiance with Antichrist, then we can't get Christ.
Do you hear how retarded that is?
No, God's not going to bless that.
I'm not saying that, therefore, we should be unethical.
We should be rude.
We should harm people.
I'm not saying any of that.
But what I am saying is that America needs to be for America.
No, we do not need people with dual citizenship holding office in America, regardless of the country, but especially Israel.
They have a stranglehold on our government.
No, we don't need that.
We do not need to be doing trips.
To go kiss the wall and wear the tiny hat every six weeks on some kind of strengthening relations with Israel.
No, we do not need that.
Not only do we not need that, that is a poison that has rotted our country and our faith from the inside out.
Dispensationalism has been a mistake, Zionism has been a mistake.
And if we clean everything up, if we deport 50 million people and we get women out of leadership and we're led by strong Christian men, And we explicitly declare our allegiance to the Lord Jesus Christ and not this secular humanist, you know, ambiguous, vague, ethereal whatever.
If we do the first three and we say, no, we're not going to be overrun by the third world and we are going to deport the people that need to be deported and we're going to be male led and we're going to be explicitly Christian and we're going to partner with the Jews, then what you'll have is exactly what we have today.
Just give it 50 to 75 years.
We will be right back where we started.
We will.
We will.
Because that is Israel's goal.
Israel's goal, I truly believe, is to weaken the West.
I believe that.
And if it's not their goal, it should be.
Because the purpose of a system is what it does.
And if it's not their goal, then my goodness, imagine if it was their goal.
Because they're achieving it without even trying.
They could achieve it all the more if it was their explicit goal.
And I think it is their goal.
No, there can be no partnership.
With those who are explicitly against Christ.
They don't have to be mistreated.
You don't have to be rude.
I want Jews, I love Jews and wish them a pleasant conversion to Christianity and also a pleasant flight back to Israel.
But no, this idea of dual citizenship, especially for holding office, especially for holding office, or the idea that not just in government, but that so many of our organizations, our corporations, there's more than just political leadership, political power.
Their influence comes in all shapes and sizes, whether it's media and Hollywood or whether it's corporations and billionaires.
There is way too much Jewish power in a non Jewish country.
There is way too much Jewish power in these United States with people who ultimately their allegiance is to another country and another religion, another God.
That's not going to work.
So you want America first?
You want Christian nationalism here in America?
There are four pillars that we have to be on board with.
And I'm naming them explicitly because a lot of people are going, I just, you can put your finger in the wind and see which direction it's blowing.
I think that the writing is on the wall.
A lot of people are going to start using the lingo of America First.
A lot of people are going to start using the lingo of Christian nationalism.
And you got to be able to be there and say, what kind of Christian nationalist are you?
Right?
What kind of America First are you?
Let me see the fine print.
What do you mean by that?
And here are four things to be able to sniff them out.
Is it, well, there's a lot of Christians, but we also respect, you know, all the Muslims and we respect this.
And so, yes, it's Christian, but there'll be some of our cities with public Islamic calls to prayer.
Because we want to be hospitable to the Muslims.
No, no, no, there can be no Islamic calls, prayer sirens in an American city.
Of course not.
So, explicitly Christian, you have to ask is it explicitly Christian?
Do you want to see Christ named on paper?
Do you want to see our country explicitly declare its allegiance to the Lord Jesus Christ?
And to say that every form of false religion, every form of false religion that is being propagandized, right, that is publicly presenting itself in the public square, whether it be prayer sirens or parades or whatever it may be, that there's no room for that in a Christian nation because that's idolatry.
That is public idolatry.
And we will not allow it.
That's number one.
Number two, hey, you know, Christian nationalism is going to be super based.
We've got this blonde chick who's going to lead the way.
No.
Mail that.
It's got to be patriarchal.
All right.
Third, Christian nationalism.
And the really cool thing is that where are we going to get all the Christians from?
Well, I think we can get them from India.
You know, people in India are converting to Christ, and so we'll ship them over.
No, no.
Americans who are Christian, Americans who are Christian, not other nations importing in.
No, the stock of the people actually matters.
It actually matters because our country has a particular people.
And if you lose those people and replace them, even with people who are religiously Christian, but they're a different people and they come from someone else, somewhere else, then you have lost America.
It's no longer America.
It may be a Christian nation, but you should name it something else.
It's not America.
I love Christ first, but I also love America.
So I want to keep both.
I want it to be Christian, and I want it to be America being Christian.
It matters.
It absolutely matters.
And then, fourth, It can't be Judeo Christian.
It must be Christian Christian.
That's what we're going to be talking about in this episode.
Tune in now.
All right, Wes.
I felt like I was watching something presidential there.
You get up, the crowd's roaring.
I love it.
Yeah.
The people, yeah.
This is what the people want.
You got to give the people what they want.
You and I have been talking about this for a while.
For those who are tuning in just now, so Antonio's out.
He's going to be in on Monday.
So it's just me and Wes today.
But we've been talking about this for a while, and we've been talking with different guys who are on the same team with us, who have the same vision, the same kind of allegiance, the same kind of commitments.
Some of these guys are public, some of these guys are private.
We need some of the guys to be private.
Yeah.
You know, some of the guys are in different fields where they need to hide their power levels, and that's fine.
We support that.
But there are a lot of, there's a growing urgency and insistence of no, like it can't, we can't do this again.
We can't do this half measure again, right?
And the reason I love those four.
Yep.
A reason I love those four too is you're not getting so autistic that you're burrowing down.
You're like, and here's our platform.
We have 17 different points, and you have to be aligned in every single one of them.
But I mean, if I think about the four, like literally, someone can come in, they check at one and they check two.
Yes, I'm Christian.
Yes, I'm for the people that make this country.
Like, if you have those four, like, there are going to be problems and differences.
Well, what about the economy?
What about, you know, maybe more hawkish foreign policy, all these different things?
You're going to have differences, but you protect the core of your identity.
Right.
You stay a nation, you stay Christian, so you keep your faith, you have the actual people to sustain it, and you resist the influence of women and people that are subverting.
Like those things at that core, I feel like it's just enough where it's like, all right, if you started adding a fifth or a sixth or a seven point, it'd be like, this kind of feels like a laundry list.
But again, if it was just, well, it's Christian, well, my goodness, there's a wide variety out there.
And there's a lot of things that could go away.
We'd still be able to say, well, we're a Christian nation.
It's all okay.
Like, no, actually, it really kind of isn't.
Right.
Right.
Let's talk about the Zionist thing for a second, because this matters so much.
And the more I learn and the more people that I talk to, it has just infiltrated so much of.
Conservative Inc.
Yeah.
That, you know, it's like, I don't know.
I look at it like the Tucker Carlson thing.
I like Tucker.
You know, Andrew Iskin went on Tucker a while back.
That was cool, right?
W's in the chat.
We're happy.
Andrew's our guy.
We love him.
But man, have you seen the videos of like playing back to back Tucker in 1999 and then Tucker today and what he's saying today about Nick Fuentes and then what he was saying about Pat Buchanan?
Running the same play on him.
So sidelines Pat Buchanan.
He's like, well, you know, Pat Buchanan, yeah, there's some nice things, you know, whatever.
He might be right, but I think he's just trying to discredit reasonable voices on the right.
Or Pat Buchanan is anti Semitic, or he's a far right extremist, or he's just trying, you know, he's going around to try to make us look bad.
Like the exact things that Tucker said with Candace Owens about Nick Fuentes, he said those same things about Pat Buchanan.
But for any young man, any young autist out there, you know, who has been awake, And taken a red pill or two over the last few years and done a little bit of the reading, as they say.
And you look at the you know the feud between Buckley and Buchanan, uh, that's exactly what Buckley and come to find out Tucker Carlson uh teamed up together.
You know, Buckley Carlson, you know, united that's the play that they ran on Buchanan.
And you go back and you you read like um um Buchanan on you know that like the unnecessary war or uh, what is it, destruction of the west, fall of the west, death of the west, yep, and uh.
Buchanan was, you know, Pat was sounding the alarm.
Competing Religions and American Identity00:15:53
He was prescient.
Absolutely.
He was saying the same things that people are starting to see now.
And here's the deal.
So you can learn from that.
You can glean from that.
You should be Pat Buchanan maxing.
So, yes, do the reading, see what he was saying, and you'll find, oh, this is what a lot of the guys that I like are saying now.
But here's one more thing to look into if we want to win, if we want to be wise, what was he saying?
And then also, why did he lose?
Yeah.
Because ultimately, he did lose.
And I'm not calling him a loser.
I'm not saying it was his fault.
I think he was.
He gave it a valiant effort.
I think he was a brave man.
He's worthy of much honor.
But Pat Buchanan ultimately was shamed, mocked, and run off the field.
Yeah, he was sidelined.
A lot of the neoconservative movement, too.
We did an episode about a couple months ago at this point on conservatism and why, in a real technical sense, we don't like to call ourselves conservatives.
But neoconservatism, in its intellectual root, Leo Strauss, Harry Jaffa, Billy Crystal, all these guys.
So, this is think of your George Bushes, think of even a little bit of your Reagans.
These guys were all Jewish and they explicitly said, Well, what's our goal?
What was my mission?
Harry Jaffa describing Leo Strauss, this godfather of neoconservatism, which is supposed to be not liberalism.
Like, what's your mission?
He said his mission in life was to make the West a safe place for Jews.
And that's on the right.
So we have all these neoconservatives, your Nikki Haley's and your George Bush, the neocons that have pushed interventionist foreign policy for 40 years.
And why?
Well, a lot of it has to do with the wars that Israel's fighting in the 50s, the 60s, and the 70s.
That they needed support from the West for.
So you go all the way back and, like, well, at least our conservative movement, it's sound and its principles ring true to tradition.
Oh, wait, that was actually in many ways just kind of an opt to get us to send billions of dollars in weaponry, billions of dollars in arms, and lots of foreign support over again to people who had a dual loyalty.
A little bit Israel, a little bit America.
And hey, America, you have some things that, man, they could really help some of our extended family, the nation, our other fellow Jews overseas.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just feel like that's going to have to be uprooted.
I just, I don't.
And here's the thing, guys, like, it's as I thought about it more and more, I'm starting to realize, and I've been dense, you know, so I'm not trying to say like I knew this from the womb, you know, like I've always held these things.
Like, no, I'm learning.
I'm learning just like many of you.
But one of the things that I'm learning is, and please hear me, this is paramount.
I'm not ever going to emphasize race over and above religion.
It must be devotion to the Lord Jesus Christ.
But it's because I'm a Christian and I believe God's word, I believe that the Bible is the inherent, infallible word of God.
That's why I'm going to put some emphasis on race.
God made the world a certain way.
And it turns out, in the way that God made the world, that He has designed human beings in His image to have natural affections.
Natural effects.
So, what I'm saying is, I'm not even saying that this group of people is just the most sinister, terrible people ever.
What I'm saying is, whether it's Somalians, so all right, so because people get weird about the Jews, but we got to talk about the Jews.
So, I'm going to come back and I'll put a pin in it for a second.
But first, you know, let's just do a universal favorite that everybody can appreciate.
Let's pick on the Somalians.
All right, so Ilhan Omar.
The quiet part is being said out loud.
Her heart is for Somalia.
It's not for America.
Her whole purpose in American politics is to use the immense resources that Christians built up here in the West and then target those towards Somalia, towards her people.
And when I say her people, that is a Christian concept.
This isn't something that's anti Christian.
No, race is a Christian concept.
It's simply the extension of the family.
Right?
I love my wife more than I love your wife.
I love my kids more than I love your kids.
But then the family extends to aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins and second cousins.
And that's what a nation is.
A people is simply a large family, it's the family writ large.
That's what nations were, at least historically.
That's what nations have always been the family writ large.
And do nations fluctuate in the providence of God over time?
Yes.
But they're supposed to do so slowly.
And usually, if something like that happened, it would be either a judgment, like a nation is conquered by another nation, or it would be something that God does as a blessing providentially, where two nations come together in an allegiance against some other nation and build an incredible close, kin like friendship and partnership.
And then over time, there's some fluctuation of some of these people come here and some people go there.
And it's like, okay, now it's, you know, like the Italians, like they're Americans now.
At first, we didn't like them, you know, at first it's like, oh, Italians, it seems like all they're interested in doing is being mob bosses in New York, you know.
Right.
But then over time, it's like, okay, all right, you're American.
I'm American.
Thank you for pizza, you know, and spaghetti.
We upgraded it, we added pepperoni to it.
We're doing this mozzarella thing.
No.
But eventually, yeah.
So eventually, yes, assimilation exists, it's a thing.
But that's not what we've been doing for the last 60 years.
We have been importing people by the millions and millions and millions and millions, and many of them not assimilating at all, no desire to assimilate whatsoever.
And so we should not be surprised.
What I'm saying is, we should not be surprised that natural bonds do not dissipate quickly.
We're human beings.
God created us a certain way.
We're not widgets, we're not robots.
We have loves, we have values, there are things we share with our people.
You cannot import a bunch of Somalians and then give them office in our government and think that they're going to put our interest, America's interest, over Somalia.
Any billionaire, he has in the back of his mind, oh, so and so wants to meet you.
They want something from him.
He's a billionaire.
He has money.
People that are meeting him know that.
So all we're saying is, hey, as a nation, we are the most prosperous nation in the world.
That's right.
Praise be to God for it.
But that means practically, I want to come to America.
I want to come to America.
I would love to come to America.
Practically, all of those people want something from us.
In the past, what has been done is okay, you want to come here.
We know why you want to come here.
This is a safe place to live.
It's a prosperous place to live.
You can work here.
Do you have something to offer us?
Whereas for especially the last five years, but most certainly spanning out the last 50, it's been yeah, we have a lot.
And if anything, we've abdicated the responsibility of managing it.
Think of the son of a wealthy man who said, All right, my father had billions.
I inherited.
All these people are coming up to me.
Man, just seems like they want to be my friend.
The money isn't a big deal to them.
He would be irresponsible as he gives away the fortune that was accrued by his ancestors.
Right.
Right.
So, why does it matter?
It's not just left versus right.
And I think for the longest time, many of us thought that it was.
We're like, oh, okay, there's Republicans and there's Democrats.
Yeah, yeah, there are.
And there are some differences, and Democrats would be worse in many capacities.
But at the same time, it's not just competing political viewpoints, it's not just competing ideas, but there really is competing.
There's actually people and religion, religions that are competing.
It is Christianity versus Islam, Christianity versus Judaism, Christianity versus atheism, secular humanism.
And it's also people.
It's not just, oh, well, you have the same ideas I have about, oh, you're pro life, I'm pro life.
Like, well, yeah, you've got to be pro life.
Abortion is an abomination and it must be abolished, not just relegated, but abolished.
That's a deal breaker.
You have to hold to that to be on the team.
But then it also needs to be, if we're talking politically in America, it needs to be a Christian who wants to abolish abortion and an American who wants to abolish abortion.
It can't be, hey, this guy wants to abolish abortion and he's been living here for six weeks on an H 1B visa on the other side of the world.
Like, W's in the chat, boys.
He's on the team.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
One last piece to on the race, but grace restores nature.
And what that means is that there has to be a nature there to restore.
And a good commodious, again, to use the illustration of the family, a good commodious family is the best context for grace to come in and save someone.
So I believe by God's grace, he's going to save my children.
Now, what has also been done there is that he has a home with a mother and a father who love each other, who love him.
It's a home where he's also provided for and taken care of.
He's given Christian instruction.
And so when a nation has an identity, it has a sense of who it is.
You create the natural conditions.
That is what Christianity does the best and has the best, does the best work because there's a natural cohesion and trust and identity and sense of purpose there that Christianity then comes into as grace restores nature and says, and what you add to this is not just the ends of GDP goes up, not just the ends of enjoying life, but it orients man towards heavenly life.
And so, with that piece, you have to have like they have to be people that share something.
There's, of course, lineage, literal biological descendants.
There's also a soul to a nation, a people that are shaped by war.
And hardship and the things that they've gone through.
Like that soul has to exist and they have to have a sense of identity together that then Christianity comes along and restores them to, not as atoms, but as part of the soul of a people that say, and what defines us?
We went through this war, we conquered the wilderness, we had this hardship.
And we also, as a people, are Christians believing in Jesus Christ, that he's going to return again, that he's going to take this land and transform it into the new heavens and the new earth.
That's what Christianity comes down and restores, not just people living on an island that bump into each other once in a while.
Good point.
Real quick, before we go to the commercial break, I was going to go, but that just made me think, and I'm going to pose it as a question to you, Wes.
But when we think about Jews, what are some of the things that you would say, like, how are they particular as a people?
What has shaped them?
Wandering.
They've wandered ever since the destruction of the temple and then the subsequent exile that followed.
They emerge, Ashkenazi Jews, sometime in the mid 700s, 800s, around what would be modern day Germany.
But they've wandered.
And one of the things, as they've wandered, what they've always done is separated themselves and been particular.
So they don't describe themselves as Germans.
They don't describe themselves as English.
They don't describe themselves as Spanish.
They've come here and they even don't describe themselves primarily as Americans, but they say, well, first and foremost, I'm Jewish and I travel around and I never root in and I never intermarry with a people and I never join their religion.
I remain distinct.
And so you have kind of a people that are groundless.
They're wandering through all of the earth.
And then they're people then, oh, they make a lot of their living off banking and off of finance and off of speculation and interest.
Well, why?
Because they don't settle in a place, work the land, transform it, build it into something versus a people.
I mean, the Germans, they were a people that worked the land, farmers.
And it's funny, many of them they went to Pennsylvania and New York, places with mountains, with soil for farming.
They're a farming people.
But then the Jews are historically have been a wandering people, never attached to the land.
They're a farming people of sorts, you know, like a tax farm.
Farming, interest.
Yeah, usury farming.
There's some farming involved.
Right, right.
No, I agree.
Like we've had this discussion.
People are not widgets.
We're not living in a vacuum.
We're all product of time and place and.
Our parents, like you know, you and I both would prescribe to traducianism the idea that the soul is made by God as all things are made by God, but not ex nihilo.
That in the same way that God uses means for our physical bodies, that it's you know, sperm and an egg and you know, this gestation and this period of forming.
I knit you together in your mother's womb.
So it's God who's making a person, a physical person.
God does it, but he's doing it through natural means.
And you and I would both prescribe to the view that.
It's not that God makes a body and then drops a soul from the ether into it, a soul that was sitting somewhere up on a shelf in heaven, you know.
But that the soul is in the same way that the body, there are traits of the body, hair color, eye color, these kinds of things, genetic traits that, oh, I can look to my dad and I can tell.
I can look in a mirror and then I can look at my dad and I can look at my mom and I'm like, I see, I can put this together.
I said, you know, there's some pretty clear similarities here.
But that even with the soul, That there is a sense of that soul being knit together by God also through the mother and father at the moment of conception, right?
So, not that the soul I said knit together, it's not being built over nine months, but the soul right there at the moment of conception, that there's a soul that comes from God, but through the natural man in Genesis 2, the two shall become one.
So, it's not just bodies that come together, but even Paul says it's something spiritual.
It's something spiritual.
It gives birth to body, and I would say, passed down.
The soul, and if that's the case, if this is the way that the soul transpires and is created by God in each individual person, as well as the body itself and all the genetic particularities, then yes,
you would have a particular type of person, both spiritually and physically, that is forged and shaped by their lineage, by their people over centuries, hundreds of years, thousands of years, and if that people are.
Uh, one way, then, you know, again, per capita, in terms of just statistically speaking, uh, there's a higher likelihood that a descendant from that people would be that way too, that he would share in common with his great, great, great, great grandfather certain attributes, certain characteristics.
Um, and if there is a particular people that is wandering and rootless, um, that has, you know, uh, yeah, that you're going to be shaped.
By that.
And then you add the religious component.
So it's not just the people, but if you have a religion that one of its founding core beliefs is simply a rejection of Christ, a rejection of the Logos.
Forfeiting Citizenship Through Sin00:11:18
Christ is the Word that became flesh.
John 1, 2, and 14.
In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and the Word took on flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory.
Glory is of the only Son from the Father, filled with grace and truth.
Jesus is the logic, the Word.
And so to reject the logic, the deified logic personified in Christ who took on flesh, to reject the incarnation, to reject the Logos of Jesus, and then to also be severed from the world, the Word and world.
You could say it like that.
The Jew.
Is someone who has been severed from the word and the world, both in many ways.
And to think that, oh, but, you know, it'll be different this time.
It'll be different.
Karl Marx came from a long line of rabbis to the very end of the culmination, and he gets out and he puts out, I mean, one of the most destructive, bloody ideologies of the 20th, 21st century.
Right.
And I would just say, too, in God's mercy, severed from the word, severed from the world, it doesn't have to be that way.
Right.
What does someone do who realizes?
I've built my identity.
My ancestors, they rejected Christ, and I myself, I make a living on bail bonds.
Well, you reject those.
You reject that identity, and you say, and I'm going to live in the world.
I'm going to do honest work.
I'm going to call myself an American.
I'm going to call myself an Englishman.
I'm going to call myself that.
I'm going to marry people like that.
I'm going to leave this identity behind and give it three generations, and you will be very similar.
You've changed from the one path, you will have assimilated.
That's what they rejected for 2,000 years across the West and Christendom.
Right.
So everyone always has that option.
Every Jew has the option.
Yeah.
We're not going to be that anymore.
I'm glad you brought that up because if you didn't, I was going to.
And simply saying, again, we love all people and we want all people to be Christian.
We want them to forsake false religion and the worship of false gods.
We want them to forsake whatever wickedness they're involved in, whether it's running pornography syndicates or usury or.
Building unethical weapons to destroy the world and a nuclear holocaust, or whatever a people group might be involved in that's not just wicked and immoral, but it's not human.
It actually takes away, it scrapes away at your own humanity.
We want to see people, all peoples, repent of that, step away from that, embrace Christ as Savior, and And be a healthy, vibrant, flourishing people in their nation, among their people.
That's what we want to see.
So, we're not calling for violence or anything like that.
But what I would like to see when I think of Christian nationalism and I think of America, I would want to hold no dual office or no dual citizenship for holding civil office.
And preferably, I think that would be the first step.
But eventually, I'd like to see no dual citizenship, period.
For you to take on citizenship in this country requires the renouncing of a citizenship somewhere else.
I think of Ruth, your people will be my people, your God will be my God.
She's not clinging on to the Moabites.
Right.
She's not, it's not a halfway house.
She doesn't have one foot in Moab and one foot in Israel.
She's letting go.
She's actually, there's a forsaking in gaining a new family, a new religion, a new country.
She is forsaking her father and the gods of her father.
She's forsaking Moab.
And so, yes, you want to be a citizen in the United States.
So start, you know, like, Beggars can't be choosers, so we got to start somewhere.
Start with civil office, at least at the federal level, at least in Congress.
My goodness, I mean, I feel like that's the smallest amount that I could possibly ask is that every person serving on Congress would actually only be citizens in the United States, the country that they're serving.
I feel like that's pretty reasonable.
But eventually, yes, I'd like to see no dual citizen.
Think about it like this because the argument that I'm making is I want to see Jews believe in Jesus and be saved.
Okay, but I also want them to stop being a problem here.
And I'm trying to make an argument for how this can be done humanely.
Like, one way is hey, you can't have dual citizenship anymore, Ben Shapiro.
You have to choose.
What do you think Ben Shapiro is going to choose?
And you don't even have to necessarily kick people out, but just say full participating citizens, citizens who vote, citizens who hold office, cannot hold citizenship in any other country.
Correct.
And that doesn't mean to say if you have a home here, oh, kick it to the curb.
No, we're not.
Yeah, we're not saying that.
But if you're going to hold that dual citizenship, You don't get it here.
But then you are forfeiting your citizenship here.
So you can still live here obeying the laws of the land, but you no longer have full citizenship.
You're not able to vote.
You're not able to hold office.
So that's a citizenship piece.
Another piece would be banning, making it illegal for there to be any kind of pornography.
That will affect all people, but it will affect different peoples disproportionately.
And it will affect Jews more.
Jews are disproportionately involved, not all Jews, but disproportionately involved in pornography.
So, ban pornography.
Another one, ban exorbitant forms of usury, loan sharks, things that prey on the poor, right?
So, I'm not talking about, you know, 3% interest for a mortgage, to own a physical asset, to get a home, because you can't save up, you know, in cash to be able to drop 300 grand and buy a house.
But I'm talking about, you know, interest, paying interest on burritos.
I'm talking about, you know, the poorest of the poor who has to go and get.
An early paycheck, right?
And then has to pay interest on that and just dig a deeper and deeper hole and is never able to get out of it.
So, exorbitant, wicked forms of usury.
Again, Jews are not all Jews, but Jews are disproportionately involved in that practice.
That would affect them disproportionately.
So, pornography, usury, dual citizenship.
And then, no, I do not believe there should be any public expressions of religion and worship, public expressions of worship to false.
False religions in these United States.
So, I'm not talking about like Minority Report with Tom Cruise, you know, where you're trying to predict crimes and you're entering in, you know, breaking down the door and entering into somebody's private home and rounding them up.
I'm not talking about that.
What I am talking about, though, is no, I do not believe that we should have mosques.
I do not believe that we should have synagogues.
I do not believe that we should have, certainly not these 90 foot tall, you know, demon statues outside of Houston.
You know, they have one.
No, there should not be public expressions of false worship.
That is idolatry.
God is not, if the triune God is the true God, the one that actually exists, and if we want God to bless America, God bless America, how it just seems ridiculous that we're saying, God, would you please bless us as we constitutionally protect public forms of idolatry?
Yeah.
God, we want your blessing.
Why should I bless you, America?
Because we have gone to great lengths to ensure the protection of.
Of public forms of idolatry, of blasphemy.
We protect people's right to publicly blaspheme you, God.
Would you please bless us?
Yeah, please flourish Texas.
There's only five mosques, really, per county at this rate.
We can get it to 10.
If more people are here, we have more money, we can build more homes, we can make it happen.
Right.
No.
And I know this sounds foreign to people, but I'm telling you number one, the discourse is changing.
The Overton window is moving at the speed of light.
And the positions that we've been articulating for a few years now, At this point, I'll be honest, even as I hear the positions coming out of my mouth once more for the millionth time, I'm like, gosh, I'm kind of a lib.
Like, that seems like a pretty soft position.
But seriously, these things are absolutely reasonable.
I understand that the leftists will lose their mind.
I understand that Muslims will lose their mind.
Jews will lose their mind.
Atheists will lose their mind.
James Lindsay will probably have a stroke if he hears this.
I get it.
But this is what's required.
And here's the thing none of this is unethical.
None of this is extreme.
None of this is outside of the historic record of Christianity for 2,000 years.
And none of it is outside the history and heritage and origin foundation of this country, of America.
Like, we're talking about doing something that has been done before, has been done recently before, and has been done here in these United States.
So, this is not a foreign concept.
This is not a far right extremist concept.
I know that by today's standards, many people would think that it is, but it's not.
We're saying no exorbitant forms of usury.
Everybody under the age of 30, they can't own a home.
People can barely live.
They're financing burritos, guys.
This is insane.
So, no exorbitant forms of usury for Jews?
No, for anybody.
Nobody can do it.
It will affect Jews more, though.
It will.
But it's the principle.
We're going with the principle across the board.
No dual citizenship for Jews?
No, for anybody.
Anybody who wants to be a participating voting citizen, much less hold public office, but it will affect Jews disproportionately.
And so, no dual citizenship, no exorbitant forms of usury, no pornography, and no public forms of false worship.
If you just start with that, there are other things, right?
But if you just start with that, what you'll see is that we'll be physically rounding up Jews and harming them.
No.
What you'll see is a lot of Jews will peacefully.
Self deport.
You'll see a lot of one way flights to Tel Aviv.
You'll see a lot of one way flights to Tel Aviv because I want my pride parade.
And think of how, I mean, just practically for Americans, man, how much better would your life be as far as protecting your children, as far as, again, a home, a family?
Like if all of those things were gone.
So we're not just talking like, well, we can devise these things and we disproportionately hit people.
They would be more honoring to God and they would make our lives better.
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Raising our children better, protect them better.
They would have more money to care for.
You'd be able to drive around in public, not hear an Islamic call to prayer, not see a mosque.
It would impress, like, it even teaches a people hey, this is interesting.
Nowhere in the United States are mosques and synagogues allowed.
Yeah, because they're false religions and America is a Christian nation.
Just by that, just the public square not being there, you're teaching people generation after generation.
So these are good things in and of themselves that will make your life better, your children's life better, your grandchildren, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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All right, we're back.
Let's talk about patriarchy.
Okay.
This is something that we've explained several times, but I'm going to explain it once more.
When it comes to biblical patriarchy, male leadership, male headship, one of the things that's paramount when you're, you know, what kind of Christian nationalist are you?
One of the questions that you need to ask is it cannot be, oh, well, I'm male headship, I'm a complementarian.
Complementarian will not do.
Yes, the sexes, male and female, are different.
Distinct and complement one another.
But complementarianism is an actual ideology that tried to ultimately replace and hijack patriarchy and become a halfway house between patriarchy and feminism, egalitarianism.
And it must be rejected.
Complementarianism functions, or it focuses rather, way too much on the distinction of roles between men and women, and not nearly enough.
There are distinct roles.
But not nearly enough on the distinction of design.
Here's the deal, and this is why it matters.
First, it matters as a defense of God's character.
God is not capricious, God is not mean or cruel, God is not arbitrary in his dealings with us.
So, God does not call men to lead for no reason, right?
He doesn't do that randomly.
So, it's not, you know what?
Well, women could probably do just as good of a job.
In fact, I'm going to create the world in such a way, I'm going to create women in such a way.
Uh, that many, if not even the majority, of women would be better leaders than men.
But then I'm going to make a rule and put it in the Bible about male leadership just to frustrate all the women, and you know, and then I'm going to be sitting back there in the cosmos, you know, twiddling my fingers.
Whoa, we got them as I see, you know, this perpetual, you know, eternal battle between the sexes, you know, men angry at women and women angry at men.
Um, that's not.
What God did.
So it's vital that we connect the principle and the function of male leadership with God's design, that we don't sever roles from nature.
No, men are called to lead as a role, as a function, because they were designed for leadership in a way that women were not.
Women are called to the role of being a lady of the hearth, a domestic, home centered focus, because they were designed in their nature.
To be far more nurturing than men.
And so it's not, well, my wife does one thing and I do another.
And it's just because.
No, my wife does what she can do better than me.
And I do what I can do better than her.
And one of the things that I do that I can do better than she can is lead.
Lead.
She does not have the fortitude.
She does not have the strategy.
She does not have the courage.
That's required to lead well.
That's not the way that God has designed women.
And so we have to move away from this gynocracy.
As of now, it's like we have two kinds of leaders female leaders and female adjacent leaders, right?
We have women of both sexes who are leading in every realm in our churches, in our families, women who are wearing the pants, right?
The man is just sitting there, happy wife, happy life, happy wife, happy life.
So, you have women leading the home, you have women leading in the church, you have women leading in the marketplace when it comes to production, and you have women leading in government at every single level.
And God is not going to bless that.
I think we have seen the curse unfold of feminism, and it's not enough to just say, well, okay, well, let's just keep men out of women's sports and we'll be okay.
Or even to just say, okay, well, all right, we went too far.
No more women in positions of combat.
No, also, no more women in Congress.
No more female state reps, no more women in any function of societal leadership, period.
Why?
Because they weren't made for it.
It comes down to not just role, but role stemming from design.
I've used this analogy before or illustration.
I'll use it again.
It's not as though God made in the creation of the world fish and birds.
And He said, you know what?
Arbitrarily, fish are going to be called to swim and birds will be called to fly.
Well, don't you think it might have something to do with the fact of their design that fish are given by God in their formation, gills and fins and scales, and birds are given feathers and wings and a hollow bone structure?
I don't think it's arbitrary.
It's not random.
God doesn't create two different species of animals and say one is called to fly through the air and one is called to swim through the sea.
It's not random.
He made them for the role.
And he did the same with men and women.
He did the same with men and women.
So it's God is not capricious.
He's not cruel.
He's not trying to steal your joy or steal your fun or spark hostility and arguments between husbands and wives.
No, God made us a certain way.
And there is joy and peace and flourishing when we function in the role that corresponds with the specific design.
We have to get back to that.
We have to come to a place where we say, it's not just that men are called by God to lead.
That's fundamental.
But in addition to that, we need to say it's not just that women are not allowed to lead, they can't.
This pillar, too, I'm going to answer Jeff Halfley.
He said a question which would you say is the most likely pillar of these four to filter out the weaker brothers or fakers?
And I think this is the one because a man who has feminine instincts, he listens to his wife, his wife says, I don't know, I don't want you listening to Pastor Joel.
He's a little this or a little that.
Those are the type of men that will never be able to follow through on making it a Christian nation.
On saying no, we're going to be resist subversion to our core to who we are, and are the ones who are going to take a stand and say, No, America is this, and you and you and you, you're not an American.
Men who can't at home at the base level say to their wives, Hey, this is what we're doing, this is the type of church we're going to, these are the beliefs we have.
There is no way at home you tuck your tail between your legs and you just kind of do what you're told to do, and then you turn around, you go out into the marketplace and you just say, Hey, this is what we got to do, this is what we need to happen.
So, I think that one, especially that pillar.
And it's funny because some guys will say it out loud, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
But practically, functionally, they can still have some more feminine coded instincts.
They can be more, like you said, peacemaking and less of a bent towards justice.
So, this is the big one, and not just in a word, but in action, I think really filters out.
Like, all right, this is coming home in your home.
Who leads the home?
Oh, it's your wife.
I don't know if these other three, if you're going to have the spine to help us carry them out.
Yeah, you're disqualified, it's not going to work.
And here's the thing people say, oh, but the women are all, you know, they're just in left field.
Like, I mean, we've seen the graphs, we've done episodes where we've shown the charts.
Young women under the age of 35 are trending more and more liberal, more and more leftist, you know, and men are trending more and more conservative, so that the gap between young men and young women politically, culturally, religiously is wider than it's ever been.
I saw Dale Partridge did a post today where he said it's for the first time in his entire lifetime that he remembers he regularly has adult men, not 18 year olds, but in their 30s, in their 40s, showing up to church alone.
And they're married, but their wife won't come to church.
It is the exact inverse of what we had for decades, right?
Where the women and children come to church and the men don't want to be there because the church was feminine coded.
The church was geared towards feminine sensibilities.
The pastor was basically, it either was a chick or functionally, you know, for all intents and purposes, he was a chick, you know, plexiglass pulpits, you know, and ferns on the stage.
And he's pacing back and forth and he's not preaching.
He's just going to share, you know, and he's using the big hand gestures, you know.
I mean, his.
His wrists are as limp as a wet noodle.
You know, like it's like, I don't ever do that again.
I didn't even, I didn't even know that the human wrist could move like that.
You know, it's like the flexibility of this man's wrist are red flags six inches around.
Yeah.
How is that possible?
Yeah.
It doesn't make any sense.
And that's where we were for decades.
And now the tide is turning.
But here's the white pill and encouragement to the men women will follow.
They will.
They will.
Right now, they think that, you know, That maybe it's just a fad or this or that.
They're kind of towing the line with the zeitgeist, right?
Women, here's the irony it's not whether, but which.
Women will submit to authority.
It's not whether they will submit, it's just which authority will they submit to.
Well, right now, the zeitgeist, the reigning authority that we've had in our nation, has been a wicked authority.
It's been a gay affirming authority.
So, what do you think young women are going to do?
Oh, I love the gays.
I have five.
Five of my closest friends are gay men.
So, right now, the zeitgeist, the reigning authority, this is, I'm not just talking about our politicians in the state, civil realm, but I'm talking about every movie, every piece of propaganda that comes out of Hollywood in media, in corporate America, in business, in government, at every single level.
You have gay affirming, always about the immigrant and the foreigner over the native people.
So, you have globalism, you have gay race communism.
Gay race communism has been the reigning dogma, orthodoxy of these United States politically, religiously, in terms of entertainment and media, corporately, in terms of business, all these things.
And so, young women are sticking it to the man, right?
They're raging against the machine.
No, they're doing what young women have always done submitting to authority.
And so, the men, what do we need to do?
We need to win.
Seriously, that's it.
That's all you have to do.
Women, I love women.
So I'm not trying to be rude.
My wife would tell you, but she will never tell you because I'm not going to let her because my wife is not going to be a public, forward facing person.
And she doesn't want to be.
But if I asked her to, she would submit to my leadership.
She would sit in this chair and I'd be like every other ministry.
I'd be replacing a qualified man with a woman.
And my wife does happen to be blonde.
So it'd be right in line with the Gospel Coalition and every other ministry out there.
Another man, you know, who had something good to say, some insights, some courage, got replaced by a pastor's wife.
She's the shield for criticism.
It's like, put her forward and she's the one that's right.
Let's get my wife out here to say this hard thing so that I don't have to be criticized.
No, I'll just be criticized.
Millions of people hate me.
You think I care?
You think I'm not aware?
Of course.
Of course.
And I know that I know what I could do for better PR.
I absolutely know how to play the game.
I won't because it's a game and it's wicked.
And someone has to break out of the matrix and say, no, I'm not going to play by these wicked rules.
I'm not going to put my wife out in front of you in order to appear softer.
I'm not going to do that.
My wife is a mother.
She has five little children.
She's busy at home.
It takes all of her time, and she's staying in that role.
And I'm not going to have her come out here and hold her up as a shield to protect myself in a self centered way from my critics.
That's wicked.
It's cowardly.
And God will not bless it.
No compromise on biblical patriarchy.
Now, that disclaimer out of the way, what I was going to say is that my wife, if she was here, she would tell you, she'd say, My husband is absolutely right.
Women, she would say this women are NPCs, non player character.
Meaning what?
Meaning all the men have to do is win.
You beat the zeitgeist, right?
You have to beat the final boss, right?
The gay race communism final boss.
You got to go in there, you got to beat them, and then you replace them as a righteous, God fearing Christian man.
And then you say, these are virtues, and these other things are vices.
This is a vice.
Right, homosexuality, sodomy is a vice.
Right, this is a vice, that's a vice.
Um, you stop letting Hollywood produce filth, you have standards, you stop, you shut down OnlyFans, um, you you you stop it, cut it out, you get women out of the military.
No, no, no, that's a shame for a nation to send its women to send its daughters.
I said using my wife as a shield for criticism, our nation uses its daughters as a literal shield for bullets.
And we think that that's virtuous.
Look at how forward thinking we are.
Look at how empowering we are to women.
Empowering to women.
You love women.
You're bringing them back in body bags.
You're not empowering.
You're wicked.
And all it takes, you don't have to.
Here's the thing guys get discouraged.
This is a white pill.
They think, I've got to win over this 25 year old chick to based politics and conservative biblical virtues and this and that.
And it's so hard.
Yeah, that's because it's the same thing as trying to win over the boomer.
You have to remember when you're arguing with a boomer, you're arguing with Fox News, you're arguing with the television box.
And when you're arguing with a woman, you're arguing with TikTok, you're arguing with OnlyFans, you're arguing with Jewish media, you're arguing with AOC.
When Modern Culture Becomes Wicked00:05:21
It's not her.
And I'm saying this in a loving way it's not her.
Here's the whole deal you want to go and slay dragons?
Think about that.
Every little boy, he wasn't imagining his wedding day.
That's what every little girl was doing.
He was building forts and tree houses and building swords, finding a stick that looked like a sword and pretending that he was fighting off dragons.
And now we have one.
Your dream has now come true.
What is it?
There actually is a damsel in distress and she needs to be saved.
She needs to be rescued.
She's been cast under a wicked spell and she is locked up in a tower by a dragon, a fire breathing dragon.
And she needs you to rescue her.
And you want to go into the tower, sneak into the tower through a back door.
And rescue her by arguing with her about politics for 17 hours?
No, kill the dragon, kill the beast.
Gaston, hero.
Gaston was a hero.
Our guy.
No, seriously, you think of Beauty and the Beast.
I mean, even the songs, right?
Disney has been indoctrinating our daughters for decades.
Even the song on Beauty and the Beast, she's like, I want so much more than this provincial life.
I want adventure.
And she's literally like, I want to be a man, right?
Gaston says, hey, we'll have seven children.
And you'll get to be at home, a lady of the hearth, and I'll go.
And what do they do?
They make Gaston look like a monster.
And then what happens?
Well, she gets taken captive by a wild beast.
And the beast, like a what's it called? Stockholm Syndrome?
Stockholm Syndrome, yeah.
Yeah.
Convinces her to fall in love with him.
Yep.
To where she is now rooting for the man who literally wanted.
What did Gaston want?
He wanted.
It's crazy.
Guys have done stuff on this.
It's not original to me.
You literally have in the movie, there are three blonde hussies.
You're like, ha doting over Gaston, wishing that they could be.
And Gaston is just a womanizer, right?
And he's with all the women.
No, he has eyes for Belle and Belle alone.
He's the best hunter.
He's the best fighter.
He's strong.
He's masculine.
He's not going and screwing up.
All the men in the village look up to him.
All the men in the village look up to him.
When the village is under attack, he's leading the charge.
And he's not just defensive, but he's actually going to take the offense and go and.
Try to root out the threat.
He's not giving himself to all these women who would love.
They're throwing themselves at him because he has eyes for one woman.
And what does she want?
Well, she wants to not be a wife, not be a mother, live in adventure, thinks that traditional marriage roles are garbage.
And then, so she's already under a spell.
That spell ends up leading her away from civilization, away from patriarchy.
And then she breaks her word.
She gives her word to the beast and then goes back on it.
Can't even stay true to what she says.
And then she falls in love with a beast.
So, all that back to the point here it is the white pill for the young men.
This is what has happened to the young women of our society.
They've fallen in love with a beast.
They've fallen in love with a beast.
They have been bewitched by gay race communism and fallen in love with gay furries.
They literally dress like beasts now, they literally wear fur.
Yeah, it's like we rehearsed this.
Hang on.
I mean, it is on the nose as you could possibly.
I mean, it's, it's, It writes itself, guys.
At this point, it writes itself.
So, what do you have to do?
You need to sneak into the beast castle and argue with Belle for 17 hours about politics.
No, you need to kill the beast.
You need to kill the dragon.
And if you do, and all of a sudden you restore order and righteous men are now the authority, then those young women will do what young women always do they'll submit to the reigning authority.
Right now, women are not thinking for themselves.
They're not being original.
They're not sticking it to the man.
They're not even rebelling.
They're submitting.
The authority just happens to be wicked.
And so you have women who are choosing a path of wickedness as they submit to a wicked authority.
All we have to do is win.
And the NPCs, overnight, I'm telling you, this is the way women are.
Overnight, I'm talking, it's like, well, it'll take years.
Guys, it'll take weeks.
Weeks.
And you'll see all of a sudden, like, remember the Kamala Trump thing?
I know that Trump has been a disappointment, but.
It was literally like a bunch of Tesla robots, optimists, female women optimist robots.
And they're all, she's so brat, she's so brat.
And then right after the Trump assassination attempt, and then everyone was like, Trump, Trump.
And then literally, it's like all the robots, all these female robots froze, and the chip was replaced from the back of their head and put in.
And literally, all these women that were, she's so brat, within days switched to they're doing the Trump dance at major league baseball games on national television.
That's how fast it will be.
Yeah, women are.
Stephen Wolf, he said this a while ago when he came on the show.
Billions Leaving America for Mexico00:06:57
They're consensus driven, right?
If a woman, like, oh, if she's surrounded by her friends that don't vaccinate, she's probably not going to vaccinate.
They do what's around them.
So surround them with practically locally women who recognize the problem.
And in the big pill, the big picture, the macro, kill the dragon.
That's how you win versus arguing with her.
So that's the patriarchy clause, all right?
So it has to be explicitly Christian.
It has to be patriarchy.
We've already talked about it.
It has to be anti Zionism.
We can talk.
Well, we've kind of made the race illustrate a little bit.
Let me illustrate a little bit.
The dual citizenship thing, for instance.
Okay.
Here in Texas, 53 Democrat state representatives have fled the House to block.
They've broken a quorum to block a redistricting effort.
Right.
And someone put this on X, Ben the father.
And listen to the absentees right here.
Just, so this is Texas.
These are state representatives.
They're Democrats and they fled the state to avoid doing their job.
Anchia, Campos, Canales, Flores, Garcia, times three.
Interesting that those individuals would be the ones that would abdicate their duty to do the office that they got elected to.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I wonder what country of origin most of them are from.
That's, yeah.
At the end of the day, again, people are people.
God created us.
As people, we have natural bonds, we have natural affections, we have devotion, we have allegiances.
Religion and race are inescapable.
Is this person a Christian?
Are they not?
Is this person an American?
Or have they been an American for 15 minutes?
But their heritage, and they're literally waving the flag, you know, like America is my nation, but, you know, Mexico is my heritage, or Israel is my heritage.
Uh, you can't, it doesn't work like that.
I always, I'll bring up and I'll do it again, but I always think of the um, the Braveheart scene where you know the the um, the English lords are sending the king is sending you know the the front lines of his militia out to meet um, all these uh, Scotsmen.
And the people that he's sending are they also Scotsmen or are they Irish?
It's been too long, I forget, but they like they run out as though they're about to slaughter each other, and then as soon as they get you know right in front of each other's faces, they drop their weapons and they.
Smile and they start giving hugs because even though England conquered this other nation and now has them enlisted in their militia as their fighting men, natural affections die hard.
They don't go away overnight.
And so it's like, but we conquered you.
You're part of the English military now.
They're like, no, these are our kinsmen, these are our brothers.
Our allegiance lies with them.
You can't just change our uniform, right?
All of a sudden put on, you know, different colors and flying, you know, the king's.
The king's flag, and then all of a sudden that's going to change our hearts.
No, we have beating hearts.
We have blood ties to people.
That's how God built the world.
This is not a bad thing.
So, none of this is me saying, and therefore, all other people outside of America, you know, or outside of European descent are terrible.
No, like all people are made in the image of God.
We want all people to be saved.
But we are fooling ourselves if we think we can just bring in people from other nations and that they would overnight have devotion and allegiance to our country and not their own people.
I mean, think about it just in terms of economically.
Where's all the money going from immigrants to build up America, right?
No, they're sending it back home.
Billions and billions of dollars sent out of America.
Billions and billions of dollars made in America.
To India, to Mexico.
Sent out of America.
Right.
Made in America, but our wealth being sent out of America.
Why?
Because these people are wicked?
No, we're wicked.
Our leaders are wicked for letting them in.
These people aren't doing something wicked.
I'm not trying to hate on these people.
I think they're doing a very human thing.
And I would argue, even a moral thing.
If America, if we had another Great Depression and I couldn't feed my family, but I heard that there was a country that was wealthy and that was, you know, their economy was strong, I would do everything I could to go into that country.
And with every paycheck, I would spend the least amount possible for me just to eat and sleep, to go back to work the next day.
All the rest of my life, I'd be sending it home to my wife and kids.
Right.
Of course I would do that.
And I think that God would honor that.
I do.
So it's not an immoral thing.
It's not even an unchristian thing.
What's unchristian is any nation that would let all these people in at the expense of their own citizens.
Our civil leaders, their obligation, their duty is to their citizens.
And so what do they do to absolve themselves or try to absolve themselves of any moral responsibility?
They just bring people in and immediately make them a citizen and say, oh, so my obligation is to them too.
They're a citizen too, Joel.
Those things that are at small scale don't have a detrimental effect.
It's when you get to millions and millions of people sending billions and billions.
So, in principle, what you're saying, hey, there's a depression going on.
I went over to this country and I'm one of 15 people sending home my wages to help care for my family.
That's not destructive to a nation the way, again, millions and millions of people sending billions and billions of dollars out of our economy is.
It's apples to oranges.
They're just not the same.
Let's do this.
Let's go to our last commercial break and then we'll come back and we're going to deal with the super chats and let's do it quickly.
I know I'm mainly talking to myself, Wes.
You're much, much more quick than I am.
But just so that we can keep this video somewhat bite sized, it's not bite sized, but, you know, so that it's an hour and a half, closer to an hour and a half than two hours, because I really do think that this video could be a helpful one stop shop resource.
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The first one $50 from Daniel Bartos.
Thanks so much, Daniel.
Really appreciate it.
And he has a good question here.
Question for Wes, that's why I'm answering it.
Are you familiar with the works of Dr. William Shockley and his research toward just Gen X and the behaviors of R selected versus K selective reproductive habits and their effects on societieslash civilizations?
If yes, what are your thoughts?
To give a high level view, R selected versus K selected refers to kind of a quantity versus quality approach.
If you think of, I don't know, like frogs, they pump out, I don't know, it's probably not thousands, but a lot of tadpoles.
And the goal is some of these are going to make it.
So you have kind of a quantity, like we're just going to pump out as many offspring as possible.
It's like finding Nemo.
Yeah.
It's just, it's quantity versus quality.
So humans are a K selected species.
Humans have much fewer animals or much fewer children than many other animals do.
And we put way more time and care into them.
We train them, we raise them, feed them individually.
All of that.
So you have R selected species, K selected species.
But within human beings, you have groups that tend more towards R.
This is, they have children earlier, they have children faster, and there's less care taken towards them versus K selective.
Think of like East Asia, where it's you have two kids, but I mean, like those kids are getting tutored at five years old in calculus.
And I think what he's kind of asking, I know he references Dr. William Shockley.
One of the ideas, and I haven't read him particularly, but I'm kind of familiar with what he's getting at, is that when you as a society incentivize And dysgenic may not be the best word for it, but you incentivize bad behavior that results in bad outcomes for children.
I think of welfare and SNAP that subsidize, for one, fathers not being in the home because the father will take care of the mother if he's not even there.
They subsidize junk food.
So the kids are being fed terrible food.
A public school system that fails students.
So if you as a society select for certain traits by giving terrible education, terrible food, paying for all their welfare, basically the nanny state, if you do that, what you're going to have is you're going to have a balance towards.
More children that are cared for less.
And so, some of Dr. William Shockley's implications that he worked out were that society should be aware of this and at times offer things like voluntary sterilization, which I don't agree with.
So, yes, for my thoughts, I don't agree with.
I think what the state does do is when you have criminals and people with terrible traits in your population, well, people that murder other people, they shouldn't be able to go on then and father five more children through the length of their prison sentence.
They should be removed from the gene pool.
Like the Old Testament, God was very clear.
People that are degenerate, people that lack self control, people that are violent.
You have to remove them.
Oh my goodness, that's terrible.
That's eugenics.
He's talking about capital punishment for capital crime, right?
Which is a biblical principle.
And that does, the Bible tells you dietary restrictions, you can't have too much shellfish, can't have too much pork.
It tells you who you can marry.
That person's too closely related.
That person is a foreigner who worships foreign gods.
And it also has capital punishment for capital crimes.
What is the result over generations and generations and generations and generations if you're following God's law?
Well, one of the results is that.
That you know, well, the culture changes, yes, the culture does change, but also because the people change.
The people change, so we're not anybody who wants to do that in an unethical way that's that's unethical, that's wicked, yep, and we would condemn that as sin.
But anybody who wants to do that God's way, um, to simply acknowledge that that's one of the things that's being done, it's being done for righteousness' sake, but but one of the implications of capital punishment being fair but also swift.
Your eye shall not pity.
One of the implications of that or consequences of that is that, yes, the type of person that you don't necessarily want to father 12 more children in your society doesn't end up fathering 12 more children in your society.
That is one of the consequences.
And all that being said, the R balance versus the K balance, I think getting to different races, there are different groups.
I just like East Asia, for example, even post millennial, a very Christian nation.
East Asia probably is going to have less kids in general than South Africa.
There's not a biblically mandated.
Every society should aim towards having a fertility ratio of five, five children to every one woman.
Some are going to have less.
That would be your case selected.
Some are going to have more.
That variance, I don't think there's anything immoral about.
And then practically, you're either going to incentivize bad test scores, bad diet, bad training for the children, bad care of them, or you're going to incentivize good ones, I think, by what you pay for the welfare system, what the state does.
So those are my thoughts on it.
That's good.
Ben Dorr gave us a $20 super chat.
Thanks.
Ben, we appreciate that.
He said, I don't even need to hear the four pillars, and I already agree.
Pastor Joel, I would love to hear from you.
Thanks for reaching out, Ben.
I appreciate it.
I think I saw on X, I think you DM'd me, and I planned, I intend to get back to you.
Just always busy.
But yes, I would like to get back to you and set up a phone call sometime and get to hear more about your story and what you're doing and see if there's anything that we can partner on.
Then we've got Jeff Halfley.
He gave us a $5 super chat.
Thanks, Jeff.
We appreciate it.
He said the four pillars happen, and how do things look in 50 years?
Okay, so assuming these four pillars happen, how do things look in 50 years?
Religion, demographics, politics, economics, et cetera.
So that's a pretty big question, but suffice it to say, better.
Yeah.
Things look better.
I feel like I could point to El Salvador, which is five years along.
It's a Christian nation.
It has abortion, which is fully legal in El Salvador, punished up to the law.
Fully illegal.
Fully illegal.
Sorry.
No cases.
It's allowed.
Well, there was right.
No.
Like it's illegal.
So I think in laws, I think in politics.
And not just the abortion doctor, but the woman would receive a penalty.
Yep.
So it's happened before.
It's happened in a lot less than 50 years.
So, religion, Christian, demographics.
I would say probably our population would stabilize about 70 to 80% white, European, and then mix in the other 20%.
Yeah, it's never going to be 100% white.
It's not going to happen.
Thomas Sowell's not going back, guys.
It's just, it's not going to happen.
But yes, you could deport 50 million people.
You could, and you could do it absolutely ethically.
With a clear conscience before the Lord, and you could stabilize, get closer to the original demographics.
It probably won't be 90% white like it was once upon a time because nations do change, but they're supposed to change naturally and slowly over time, not artificially, not manipulated by wicked rulers who ultimately just want your nation.
They want the original demographic of your nation to be wiped off the face of the planet.
That's what we're dealing with right now we're dealing with global powers and leaders that actually want to see Europeans gone.
Just gone, disappear.
Yeah.
And diversity too drives down just the amount of children a society has.
So when you take away a lot of people that don't belong here, it's a safer place to live in.
You mentioned economically.
I think we'd be flourishing economically.
Some bumps in the road to get there.
But you take a nation that's flourishing economically, low diversity, you're looking at a lot of people having more kids too.
Yeah.
Lower taxes.
Lower taxes.
So people feel like they can actually afford to have a family.
They can buy a home, those kinds of things.
They don't have to do two incomes.
So, like more mothers returning from the workforce back into the home to be able to raise those children.
So, you're getting quality.
And not just quantity.
And you're right, Wes, like that.
I mean, look at the way El Salvador has changed.
It could happen a lot faster than we think.
I don't even think it would require, you know, 50 years would be incredible.
But I think you could see massive changes in 15, 20 years, 10 to 20 years.
Okay, here's another question.
Let's go up.
Okay, this is a fun one.
Tyler said, question When is Joel going to shave it off?
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He's referencing my beard.
Here's the answer What do you call men without a beard?
The answer, women.
So, no.
When am I going to shave it off?
Never.
Absolutely never.
Charles Spurgeon has some great quotes about beards.
I love, like, in typical Spurgeon fashion, he goes way over the top.
He's a bit of a drama queen, a bit eccentric, but he says that a beard is most manly, most natural, and then he also says, and most scriptural.
And so he makes a biblical argument.
He's like, hey, You want to obey the Bible, have a beard.
Just imagine in the new heavens, the new earth, if when we get resurrected, we don't have beards, nobody's going to recognize you up there.
They're going to be like, oh, who are you?
And you'll be like, well, I'm actually this guy.
And like, oh, didn't recognize you.
You didn't have the beard.
Yeah, I don't think God's going to do that.
But yeah, we'll see.
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He said, does America need to be a dictatorship in order?
To get the results that El Salvador has seen, I would say absolutely not because El Salvador is not a dictatorship.
Dictator is just a pejorative that's used by libs who don't like righteousness.
That's what it is.
Now, yeah, people will call Bukele a dictator.
Absolutely.
But he has not done anything illegal.
The nation wants him, the people want him to be the leader.
And they said, you know what?
We actually want to change even the protocols.
And they did it through the right avenues.
They did it legally.
We're going to amend this.
We're going to change that because Bukele is great and our nation is better.
And so we want him to stay in office longer.
So you can do all of that.
And that's not a dictator.
Now, I will say that to be on the right track, you're going to have to have a president who functions in that executive office in the way that that executive office, I think, was intended to function, which will look like tyranny.
To a lot of modern liberal Americans.
But the presidential office, it's not king.
That's clear.
They didn't want a king.
It is president.
But the executive powers that the Constitution actually affords to the president are enormous, far, far larger than what we've gotten used to because we've had this managerial state where the courts are able to tie the president's arms behind his back and all these different things.
So, no, I don't think that we will, in the technical sense, require a dictator or a king.
But in the practical sense, he probably will be called a dictator and called a tyrant and called a king.
But I think he, without having to make any major changes to the Constitution or something like that, I think you would be able to have a guy if we just got back to original authorial intent who could come in and do the right thing for eight years and shape the nation tremendously in the right direction.
I don't think that would work.
I do think you would need people to be animated by the great man to aspire to something greater.
Type of inspiration could be vested in someone that doesn't hold the office.
And then, even if they did hold the office, the limitations of the office, some of the articles of the Constitution, I think, limit, and we're already seeing this with the judges, they limit the office, the executive branch, too much.
So, I think you would have to have someone that functionally is, I agree, dictator is a bit of pejorative, but a practical, functional king.
I think you do have to get there.
And maybe, again, he could shape the people such that they self govern themselves as a constitutional republic on the back end.
We've talked about it kind of, you know, go from democracy, raw democracy, back to constitutional republic.
You kind of go the whole loop around.
Everybody votes and then nobody votes.
Back to monarchy and then potentially back to constitutional republic.
I think that has to happen.
Yeah, I could see that.
I think that's possible.
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