Donald Trump and RFK Jr. analyze three pivotal developments: a historic Middle East deal excluding Israel to prevent WWIII, the federal indictment of Judge Hannah Duggan for harboring an illegal immigrant, and a court ruling upholding the Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelan gangs. While celebrating Boeing's $16B Qatar contract as job-creating without taxpayer bailouts, they critique secular liberalism's infiltration of doctrine and argue that self-sufficiency supersedes social safety nets. Ultimately, these "white pills" signal a shift toward constitutional executive power and a potential societal correction against multiculturalism. [Automatically generated summary]
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Signs of Providential Reordering00:03:19
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Christians across the country have watched the early months of Trump's return to power with cautious patience, wondering, even praying for signs that real change was coming.
Now, those signs may finally be emerging, not in fanfare, but in force.
After months of what seemed like political stagnation and institutional gridlock, the tide may be beginning to turn.
In Riyadh, President Trump delivered a foreign policy message grounded not in idealism, but in clarity.
And I quote, it is God's job to sit in judgment.
It is my job to defend America, close quote.
That message came alongside a pair of massive economic deals with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, totaling hundreds of billions of dollars and potentially supporting over a million U.S. jobs.
Domestically, the ground is shifting as well.
A Wisconsin judge, long seen as a symbol of progressive judicial activism, has been federally indicted.
And in a ruling that few expected, a federal court has upheld Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport members of violent foreign gangs.
The legal system, long weaponized against the right, is starting to show signs of something unfamiliar that is, equilibrium.
And then there's RFK.
No, not a de facto, still a liberal in many ways, but one willing to tear into the bureaucratic rot inside the NIH.
For Christians, his calls for transparency in the halls of scientific authority.
Echo a deeper longing that the light would expose the darkness.
For those who have waited and prayed for the return of order, for justice with teeth, and for leaders that are willing to defend the good, these are not random events.
They are early signs, slow signs, but real ones.
What we are witnessing may be the beginning of a providential reordering, not perfect, not messianic, but unmistakable.
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In today's episode, we're looking at the glimmers of renewal, foreign policy rooted in realism, a justice system testing its strength, and cracks forming in the walls of institutional secrecy.
Is this a political resurgence or the beginning of something deeper?
Realistic Deportation Expectations00:05:09
Let's find out.
All right, welcome.
We are back.
This is Friday, last day of the week.
And Wednesday, I got some messages from some people.
Michael was one of them, but also from some of you.
A couple of you guys emailing, reaching out, which I appreciated.
You were very encouraging, but just saying, Joel, you got me down a little bit, and you seemed down a little bit.
By the end of that episode, it was kind of a we're so over moment.
So Michael reached out to us yesterday.
Nathan and I, our tech advisor, and said, guys, we need.
I had a different episode planned for today.
Yeah, you were like, we got to finish the week with some white pills because Wednesday was too depressing.
And so we've got some.
So we've got, we're going to go through some recent news cycle, looking at some things that have been unfolding, primarily focusing on some recent things with Trump and RFK Jr., and things that are not just.
That don't appear to merely be talk.
Like, there's some areas where, like, deportations, right?
Like, Cinco Deportes came and went.
And I was hoping we would celebrate May 5th with like millions going back, you know, and they could all go back with sombreros or whatever, you know, but that didn't happen.
And so, like, on the deportation side of the equation, like, we have to admit that not that it'll never happen, we could be a little bit hopeful, but as it currently stands, Trump has been far more bark than bite.
Right now, there are, you know, you can make explanations and reasons for his hands being judicially tied and these kinds of things.
So it may not be his fault.
It may be the reality, but it is the reality, exactly.
So, in terms of the deportations that we were promised that he campaigned on, we're getting a fraction of that right now.
He would come in under Obama, yep.
In terms of deportations, right?
So, that's so we're just wanting to be realistic.
We don't want to be pessimistic just for the sake of being pessimistic.
We also don't want to be Unrealistically optimistic.
So, today we're going to focus not necessarily on deportations.
Maybe there'll be great news about that in the next month or so.
And we're holding out hope and praying for that.
But we want to look at some other areas where Trump has not just said something, but done something that we think is hopeful.
And then the same with RFK.
We do have to address one other rumor, though, Joel.
Okay.
What's that?
That rumor is that Wes is actually never coming back.
He's never coming back.
He was deported.
He was deported.
They got into the chat and they said, We're sorry, but you are alarmingly far right wing.
And they sent him to El Salvador.
He's doing hard labor.
Wes will be back.
He has been in Hawaii for his sister's wedding for two weeks.
I've never heard of a wedding that's two weeks long.
Not even Middle Eastern weddings are that long.
Right, yeah.
So it turns out that I think he just.
I'm a really good boss.
And he is just taking advantage of me like shamelessly.
He's like, I know I can get away with it and Joel won't do anything about it.
And that is true.
He ran the calculus.
He's like, Joel needs me more than I need him at this point.
He's like, I'm going to Hawaii.
So, two week long trip to Hawaii.
He's coming back.
And then next week, I think all three of us are together.
Do you have like one out of Monday, Wednesday, Friday that you're missing next week?
No, not next week.
Good.
Okay.
So, we're going to have to live stream all three days and probably.
Like, sandbag a couple episodes because then the week after next week, I'm out of town for a family reunion.
I'm not going to Hawaii for two weeks like a madman.
I'm going on a five day trip like a normal human being once a year, and this is it.
So, anyways, so we should be back to our normal regiment on Monday.
So, all right, do you want to outline our episode?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, the other thing, and I would actually welcome you guys' feedback and for real, we've tossed around a couple of times here in the studio, just, you know, most of our episodes are a deep dive into one thing.
And, you know, we branch off, we have tangents, and we, but we try to follow one trail, even if the trail is a winding trail.
We've talked for a little while.
I wonder what it would look like to kind of take a couple different things, kind of like other podcasts do occasionally where they read a headline and they talk about it.
I mean, that's really what Rush Limbaugh started doing way back when was he would just read the news and commentate on it.
So we're not so much commentating on it, but today with wanting to do something that was a little bit more white pill-y, and I thought it's a great time to try this thing that we've been talking about where let's hit kind of some different various topics all under kind of a heading of.
Secular Liberalism Seeping In00:03:41
Is what's going on positive?
Is it a sign of actual progress?
Or is it just more smoke and mirrors?
So, that being the case, we're going to hit three different areas if we get to all of those, maybe two, just of events that have been going on.
And certainly there's been a lot.
News these days is, well, we joke sometimes we'll plan an episode two days ahead.
And then by the day of the episode, it's like that's either irrelevant or there's something already much more important on the horizon.
And so, just since yesterday, There's crazy stuff going on with the Diddy trial and yeah.
I want to do next week, I would love to do an episode on the Diddy trial because you and I were talking before you know we started live streaming.
But it's just important, like, secularism has infected everything, not just for Christians and people who are politically and culturally right, to where you know liberalism seeps into everything.
You know, that it's like, well, I just I'm just holding to you know the Christian faith, and it's like, yeah, but like all of your heroes would have disagreed with you, right?
And you would have disagreed with them, you would have excommunicated all the guys that you claim to read and love.
You claim to be a Christian, but it's not really historic Christianity.
It's 20th century liberalism walking around in a skin suit.
And so we've seen the effects of secular liberalism seeping in for Christians.
And I think we're aware of that a lot of the things that we hold dear as we think it's just pure doctrine or it's just pure, unadulterated items of faith, that a lot of them are tainted and.
Tinted by the Enlightenment and by liberalism.
But what we miss sometimes is that that is just as true if we could categorize it as light and dark, light and dark.
Secularism and liberalism infecting the light to where things that we think are, you know, it's the way that the light has been infected for Christians, it's true of the dark to where, like, we often, you know, we look at, Certain behaviors, you know, and we look at churches and we look at doctrines and all this kind of stuff, and we just have humanistic ways of analyzing.
It's analytics, it's explaining away sometimes the supernatural and the reality of God's miraculous work and what he's doing.
And likewise, we can do that when it comes to the enemy.
We can say, well, yeah, you know, there's a lot of lawlessness and degradation, you know, with the left and with those who are unbelievers.
And it's because they're greedy and have a lust for power and simply don't want to be held accountable.
But sometimes it's just helpful to pull back out and really, you know, without over spiritualizing, but to see that we really do live in a world of people who are inherently worshipers and they are religious.
Everyone's religious.
And to say, like, no, on the right, it's not just good behavior, but it's worship of the triune God.
And then on the left, to remember, oh, it's not just, you know, guys in a boardroom who want to make more money at the expense of the poor.
They're also doing rituals, blood rituals.
And worshiping demons.
They actually are.
They actually are worshiping.
Sometimes you got to give Alex Jones a little credit.
It's like the guy, he's been wrong every now and then, but he's been right about a lot.
Constitutional Crisis Approaches00:15:06
I'd love to do an episode on the whole Diddy trials and those kinds of things.
I also, and I hope we're not too late to this, but I think that we would have a unique perspective on it.
But I think it would also be helpful to maybe do an episode on the Afrikaners, all the refugees.
You know, all 59 of them, 59, you know, American flag waving, you know, heterosexual conservative families, you know, that have come that happen to be white that are being persecuted in South Africa.
You know, I think that an episode on that could be really helpful as well.
Right.
Good.
Well, so today, what we're going to start with is some of the news from the international area with Trump's trip to the Middle East.
And this is, This is a complicated area, and some it's to some degree a little bit outside of our wheelhouse.
And I'm aware that there's always you know, anytime there's money changing hands, there's always strings attached.
And so, I've heard the argument, well, now there's strings that we are attached to Qatar with, or more strings that we're um attached to Saudi Arabia with.
I get all of that.
Um, one of the things I wanted to start with was a quote from Steve Bannon a couple of months ago, maybe a month and a half ago or so, where um, I think it was NPR.
Was interviewing him, and he basically said, Look, I the whole time, this is Bannon, have not expected really any of the fireworks of Trump's promises until the summer into his term.
His point in this segment of the interview was things take time, even with someone who's you know as gung ho and um uh kind of rambunctious as Trump is bull in a china shop style, the wheels move slowly.
And so, I just wanted to frame our discussion today.
Bannon may be right, he might not be, but I thought it was an interesting.
perspective as we are saying where are the changes.
So Nate, let's roll clip number one.
And this is Bannon with the NPR report.
Seven emergency powers now or eight emergency powers enacted by the president.
He's fully within his rights as commander in chief.
And yes, we are coming to a we're coming not just to a constitutional crisis.
We're coming to a convergence of crises that are going to start hitting us this summer.
One of these is the constitutional.
I'm glad that you brought this up because in this very book of mine that I brought, I write about one of the instances with Chief Justice Tawney.
And it's interesting.
Lincoln did suspend the right of habeas corpus in the case of a Maryland man who had been burned in the villages.
Full stop.
I got Steve Inkscape just agreed with me on it.
No.
Hang on.
Tawney said Congress could do that.
Lincoln said, I think the president can do that.
In the end, a few months later, when Congress returned, Congress voted to approve what he had done.
In the end, he got back within the constitutional system.
Seward and Lincoln were so concerned that what they had done in that interim time, as you remember, was outside the Constitution that Seward, because these were the smartest lawyers in the country, right?
Seward and him, Lincoln would sit there and talk about the implicit powers of the Constitution, the implied powers of the Constitution for the chief executive.
It's brought up brilliantly in Spielberg's movie, Lincoln.
I think there's a lot of discussion of that.
But you're right.
Lincoln did it.
That was all papered.
They papered over what they had to do after the fact to cover themselves.
But in the moment, what President Lincoln did, exactly what President Trump's done.
You've had a judge here, Bosberg, try to step in the middle of a commander-in-chief making decisions about aircraft in the air.
You can't have right now that the hill that the Democrats are dying on is about a human trafficker, right?
A human trafficker that is down in a prison, has been sent down to a prison.
They're trying to say, if every one of these criminal terrorists have due process, it's 200 years before they get out.
It's not going to happen.
It's just not going to happen.
The American people back Trump on this, and they have to go, and they're going to go.
All right.
So Bannon saying, you know, things are building towards a crescendo.
And that's really the question that we're you know, I guess okay, cautiously optimistic about, but also like you're gonna have the proof will be in the pudding this summer if it actually all does come about.
But I thought that was an interesting way because that was even back in April that he said that, yeah.
So, yeah, no, that is encouraging.
Um, it is true that certain things do take time, um, because the president, constitutionally speaking, has a shocking amount of power, right?
Um, most of the things that the president is actually capable of doing, people.
Even, you know, ostensibly, you know, conservatives would claim was tyranny, you know, and authoritarian.
And if Trump behaved in the ways that Andrew Jackson or other presidents have, and the Constitution actually affords him a great deal of power.
But the problem is that we haven't been a constitutional republic for quite some time now.
We're instead a managerial state, it's just a giant bloated bureaucracy of red tape.
And so, It's going to take time and fighting behind the scenes to cut through a lot of that.
And so it's entirely possible.
And I don't want to be unnecessarily, unfairly pessimistic.
It's entirely possible that Trump, you know, that it requires a few months for him to be able to set the stage to eventually cross the Rubicon, you know, and be able to accomplish some of the things that he said he's going to.
Like it is entirely possible that his hands really are tied behind his back and he's working to break free and that he's successful in being able to do that.
And then once he's free, that he actually begins to accomplish a great deal.
All those things are possible.
It's also possible that sometimes, you know, bark is bigger than bite.
That's also possible.
Yeah.
So I listened to some of the oral arguments today from what's being called the birthright citizenship case.
It's not really about that, it's whether.
Judges, federal judges, have the right and authority to override the administration's policies.
So the Supreme Court likely is not going to weigh in on the birthright question.
What they're trying to decide is whether judges have the authority to countermand the president from their little desk in Hawaii or wherever it is.
And the attorney for the White House said that this phenomenon of a local judge, a federal judge, overriding an executive authority.
Actually, while it's a little while ago, it's actually quite new.
Only the last four or five presidents have had to deal with this in American history.
Even at times when other very controversial legislation was being proposed, such as the New Deal, judges were not just, boom, president cannot do that.
The parties were fighting it with other ways, more procedural ways.
And so this is actually, while it's been the case, maybe if you're younger or been paying attention to politics only for the last four, eight, or 12 years, this actually judges having that sort of authority is a novelty.
In American jurisprudence.
Well, the nice thing though about judges, you know, whether it's the Supreme Court or, you know, the judicial branch is if Trump wants to defy them, then the judges can bring their army.
That's right.
That's right.
Right.
So, I mean, Trump can say, well, I heard your ruling and too bad.
We're going to do this.
And here's the National Guard and here's this and here's the other and swoop in with actual show of force.
And the judges can say, well, you're not allowed to.
Like, that's the thing that we forget about school moms is that all you have to do is just not listen.
Like, you know, like at the end of the day, all you have to do, like, they don't actually have power.
They don't actually have, you know, like I remember I got in trouble in a sermon because I was talking about how part of the problem is that we've had too few, you know, like we, society is missing its bullies.
Right.
Used to, you know, like we have a theater kid occupied government, you know, and it's like, where was, where was like society's immune system back when this person who's now ruling and is a terror, a leftist terror?
It's like, this all could have been solved if when they were 14 years old, they were shoved in a locker.
Yeah.
You know, and, but, you know, we stopped doing that and now we have the problems that we have today.
So my point is, I think that Trump could, and, you know, the verdict is still out.
We'll see what he ends up doing.
But, Um, if he can't get things squared away, um, judicially, um, he always could just do it anyways.
It reminds me, um, you all have probably seen clips of open air preachers or even some of the abortion abolition videos where they're standing in a public space, and some, you know, Karen comes up to them and says, You can't stand here, you have to stand over there.
And they're like, No, we're gonna stand here, yeah.
And and the school mom, the Karen just looks shocked, like, and but then it's like, Well, now what am I gonna do?
Right, nothing, I can't do anything.
Nothing.
All right, let's jump into the first clip here.
So this is from Trump's trip over to the Middle East.
And this is specifically in Iran and Riyadh.
Now, there's some things to be cautious of, lots of weapons deals being signed and things like that.
But the content in this part of the speech was really something that I have not heard in a foreign policy speech ever in American politics.
Is this when, I think I watched this, is this when he was securing our Qatari money to fund the right response?
Isn't that what we're about to watch?
That is exactly the clip.
No, it's not the clip.
Yeah, we support this 100%.
This is how we pay the bills.
Yep.
If only.
It's not how we pay the bills.
We do rely on super chats and donations.
Yeah, that's true.
And people liking the video and sharing it.
Yes.
Yes.
All right, Nathan, let's roll that second clip.
The West should not be dragging itself backward into another endless war in Europe, yet another endless war.
We should stop the killing and work together to address the biggest long term threats as.
One unbeatable team.
Think of us as an unbeatable team.
I mean, when you look at what you've done here, that's much more difficult than stopping stupidity.
Think of it.
It's stupidity.
What you've done is much more difficult, and you did it better than anybody else has ever done it as President of the United States.
My preference will always be for peace and partnership whenever those outcomes can be achieved.
Always.
It's always going to be that way.
Only a fool would think otherwise.
In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it's our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use U.S. policy to dispense justice for their sins.
They loved using our very powerful military, and now it's really the most powerful it's ever been.
We just are getting a budget approved $1 trillion, the highest budget we've ever had in history for military $1 trillion.
And we're getting the greatest missiles, the greatest weapons.
And, you know, I hate to do it, but you have to do it because we believe in peace through strength.
You have to have the strength, otherwise, bad things could happen.
But hopefully, we'll never have to use any of those weapons.
Seems to be an awfully big waste of money if you're never going to use them, but hopefully, we'll never have to use them because the destructive power of some of those weapons are like nobody's seen before.
I believe it is God's job to sit in judgment, my job to defend America.
And to promote the fundamental interest of stability, prosperity, and peace.
That's what I really want to do.
I will never hesitate to wield American power if it's necessary to defend the United States or to help defend our allies.
And there will be no mercy for any foe who tries to do us or them harm.
We will have no mercy.
They understand that.
That's why I've been pretty lucky.
A lot of people think, you know, he's looking to fight.
He's looking to fight, and things get settled.
It's an amazing thing when they really think you mean it.
But we do.
We have the greatest military, the strongest military, stronger than any.
Nobody's even close.
We have the best weapons in the world, but we don't want to use them.
If you threaten America or our partners, however, Then you'll be faced with overwhelming strength and devastating force.
We have things that you don't even know about, you don't hear about.
And if you did, you'd say, wow.
That is quintessential Trump.
We have the best military.
It's the best, better than anyone in the world.
If you heard about it, you'd say, wow.
Wow.
That's Trump.
That's what we love about him, though.
You've got to love him.
But yeah, I mean, that's true.
We've had, I mean, Joe Biden was.
An old guy with dementia.
I mean, it's a danger to Americans, it's a danger to the entire world.
Like, it is a blessing to have a country that has strength and is also going to be, you know, benevolent and exercise that strength responsibly.
And you can say that Trump's not responsible and, oh, I don't feel comfortable with him having access to nukes.
But we've already had a Trump term and we had more peace around the world during those four years.
I mean, you think about the four years of Trump and foreign affairs.
And wars.
And then you think about just four years as soon as he was gone, everyone in the world thought, this is our chance.
And all of a sudden, you had wars with Ukraine and Russia.
You had things ramping up between Iran and Israel.
And even that, it's not great, certainly not great.
But even just in the last week, there's been some positive news headlines coming through the book.
This to me is the positive news.
This is why I put this in as a white pill.
Global Conflict and Fleets00:15:49
First of all, he left Israel out of this process.
Yep.
Second of all, he pointed at the Saudi prince and said, ally, right?
Which has been for a long time.
But they're in Iran, right?
Which is what every globalist impulse has been trying to get us to go to war in the country where he's sitting there.
And he's doing two things.
He's saying, I prefer to be allies.
And he's saying, but if you're not going to be our ally, We've got the biggest military you've ever seen.
We've got some stuff you've never seen.
And so the reason why this was so remarkable to me is people think, okay, we're going to get pushed into a war in Iran.
And what Trump does, he goes to Iran and he offers them peace.
No, this was the threat behind the peace.
No, you're right.
I'm glad you showed this clip in terms of white pills to end the week here on Friday.
This is a big one because that has been, I think, one of the most serious concerns that people have had rising tensions in the Middle East and World War III.
That it starts with Israel and Iran, but then we get broke in because of Israel, because we always just do what they say and are just shilling for Israel all the time.
And so people were concerned about that.
Trump having massive donations behind him from Jews here in America, like the Adelsons, Adelsons, I always forget how to pronounce it, but $100 million donation towards his campaign.
And so the fears or concerns of him being beholden.
To Jewish people and just backing Netanyahu, regardless.
So, like, when I saw that headline of like Trump doesn't like Netanyahu, I was like, yes, like that's what I like to see.
And then him actually being in Iran and cutting Israel out.
And it's not saying like, and so now we're going to go to war against Israel.
There's nothing like that, you know, even remotely on the table.
But just saying, I'm like, when I think of just human conflict, normal conflict, like we're supposed to go to the person who allegedly, you know, is.
Is upset and angry, and you know, like, so I mean, every conflict that I've dealt with in my personal life or that I've dealt with others, you know, trying to mediate pastorally, where someone's like, Well, so and so is really, really bad, and really, I just can't tell you how bad they are, and they've said this and they've done that, and um, and and you're only talking to this one person about someone, right?
You know, um, so for Trump to say, No, I'm just gonna go talk to them, and um, that's I think that's huge, and it kind of breaks.
Some of the power that Netanyahu and Israel has had of just taking their word for it.
That's right.
So, to break that up and actually establish relations with some of these Muslim countries, not necessarily all of them, you know, and not saying that, like, that we're okay now we're pro Islam.
Like, no, I don't think that's right or helpful.
But we shouldn't be pro Judaism, you know, like either.
So, it's just this is the way the world works.
We live in a world that has multiple nations.
And you're going to have to have some kind of interaction with them.
And so the idea that Trump is going to interact with both sides, I think on his own, without just taking someone else's word for it.
When I saw that, and then some of the news headlines that I've read, and looking into it a little bit, I think if we were putting a percentage of World War III, I think the chances have been cut in half.
Yeah.
It's substantial.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good.
Well, maybe we'll hit our first break.
When we come back, we're going to talk about airplanes.
And yeah, it'll be interesting.
What about airplanes?
Yeah.
You'll have to stick around and play around.
Well, just the Boeing deal.
It's still part of the Middle East trip.
Still part of the Middle East trip.
So I'm going to make a case that might be wrong, but I'm going to make a case why I think it's a white pill.
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So we're going to continue in the Middle East.
And this was still part of Trump's time just over the last couple of days there.
And I want to present a little bit of information about Boeing.
Now, Boeing, you know, I was born in Washington.
I spent time there growing up.
And Boeing, for a long time, is just an establishment in the state.
When it comes to American companies, for a long time, they were really, really.
Uh, like they built the uh the space shuttles and all of those things, and they've been a critical part of American defense, even building planes for the U.S. They're supposed to be building Trump a new or not Trump, the U.S. government, a new Air Force One, two or three years behind on that, partly because of uh Boeing's troubles and partly because of the Biden, some of the Biden administration's regulations and requirements.
But nevertheless, quintessential American company, we want to keep jobs here, especially manufacturing jobs, all those kinds of things.
We don't want to.
See a company like that fail at the same time, we don't want to see it artificially, you know, manipulated and propped up.
Like, it needs to actually succeed by doing what it does by producing products and selling them.
But, uh, but it is a quintessential company from the reading that I've done, just interested in different businesses and with investments, you know, in mind.
Boeing, I think, is like the number one American company that has received like federal, oh, interesting support.
I think number two is Intel.
That makes sense.
Um, and I'm not saying that it's always been helpful, you know, especially if it's being propped up by.
Federal support, meaning tax dollars.
But there is a reason for that.
So I'm not saying that's the right means.
And we're going to get into Trump's strategy that I think is significantly better here in just a moment.
But the point is that both of those companies are substantial.
And when you think of Intel as number two, if I'm right about that, and I think I am, Intel doesn't make planes, but makes computer chips, microchips.
And some of the things that we don't have to have everything here, that'd be great.
But it's just we've gotten ourselves into a mess and fixing things like Is short term pain for long term comfort, you know?
And, but the short term pain, if you make it too intense, like you could have somebody who's sick and it's like, we're gonna, you know, you have cancer and we're gonna kill the cancer.
But like if you go too intense, you know, with the chemotherapy, you could kill the patient as well, you know?
And so it's like, so we do, we need to get out of the mess that we've created for ourselves.
GDP must go up, you know, at the expense of American jobs and the future and all these kinds of things.
So we do need to bring a lot back home.
You have to triage, you can't do it all at once without just completely shocking the system.
And then people literally don't make it through, like the chemo example that I just gave.
So, yes, we do need to fix things.
And younger people, especially, are up a creek without a paddle.
They can't afford a home.
They don't have a good paying job.
They're like, You want us to have a single income, you know, and the wife stays home, you know, and rears children, you know, but it's economically, it feels impossible.
And so, I think for younger people who You know, maybe don't have a lot of investments and things like that.
They're certainly not two years away from retirement.
They're like, just shock the system, because we're already screwed.
And so it's not going to kill us.
So just shock the system.
And if the SP 500 dives all the way down, like loses 70%, who cares?
And if it never recovers, but just bring jobs back and lower the price of gas and eggs and houses.
But there is an older population that, in some ways, is responsible for a lot of the mess that we're in.
But we also, you know, I mean, during COVID, you know, like, you know, like we cared a little bit about grandma and didn't want to kill her, you know, and so I'd like to not kill grandma now if we can help it.
We do need to make some changes and boomers will be affected.
But I don't want to completely destroy that entire, you know, class of people.
And so, so, anyways, so you have to do things in phases, you have to do things in phases.
And so then you have to triage.
And in terms of triaging, And bringing things back, business and production back to America, some of the most important would be the things that are absolute necessities or the things that society would collapse if you didn't have.
And especially those things that aren't just overseas, but they're overseas, particularly in countries that are hostile towards American interests, like China, for instance.
And so, do we want China, or even Taiwan for that matter, if Taiwan is very likely to?
To be absorbed by China in the near future, if Taiwan is responsible for a vast majority of our microchips.
And we've gotten to the place where a lot of people can't even start their car.
As we've left an analog society and entered into this digital society, we're here.
Whether it was right or wrong, this is where we are.
This is the way of the world in its current state.
And so, do we want all of our microchips?
For the way that that would affect our military and our ability to mount a defense and our cars and everything in society.
Do we want that to be a large portion of that to be underneath China's supervision?
And then medicine would be very high on the list.
So, food, medicine, and chips, tech would be high up on the list.
And so, Intel, all that back to Intel, Intel is an incredibly important company.
Because it is a quintessential American company, not saying that they haven't, you know, relocated some things overseas as many companies have, but it's still a heart, you know, a heart piece of America and does a lot of work here.
And it's a company that you need to succeed, but it actually has to succeed.
It can't just look like it's succeeding in terms of its stock price because it's receiving federal tax dollars.
And Boeing.
From what I've read, it's even higher on it.
It's like number one, and Intel is like number two.
So, Intel chips, Boeing would be weaponry and planes and defense and all these kinds of things.
So, these are two companies that we really don't want to fail.
So, you need to see them if you're president and you're America first.
You want to see these two companies succeed, but you want to see them actually succeed, not at the cost of the taxpayer.
Yep.
So, let's show the next image, image one, Nate.
This is a comparison just for the last few years of.
Boeing compared to Airbus.
I believe Airbus is a bigger company.
So the number, the graph is not totally alarming, but the point is there at the end, where basically since 2023, Boeing had a steep decline in its deliveries and ability to fulfill orders.
And part of that was there were some crashes and, you know, the door fell off that one Boeing flight.
But Boeing has been in trouble for the last couple of years.
So, Joel, to your point, what you said earlier about it's an American company, there's obviously going to be different angles.
Yes, you know, they, well, I'll get there in a second.
One of the things that I think is significant about what Trump has done, he went to this Saudi internet.
The thing in Riyadh, which was kind of a negotiation with Arab countries, an economic forum or panel or something like that.
And one of the outcomes was that he was able to secure from the country of, I think it's Qatar, not I said Qatar earlier, Qatar, the purchase of 160 brand new Boeing airplanes, right?
Now, this is significant.
It's going to go towards their fleets, their commercial fleets.
There is some medical, not medical, military.
Involved in the deal too.
Okay.
So, uh, Qatar is getting some military grants and weapons and they're buying them.
We're not giving them to them, but they're buying those.
Um, but the point is 160 um airplanes that they're going to buy from Boeing instead of from Airbus or from something like that.
Like, that's a big deal.
Now, um, how big of a deal, you ask?
The uh, here it is.
Um, Nope, I misplaced it.
Sorry, guys.
No worries.
Oh, you're looking at the price?
No, I had a quote.
Here it is.
So, this was from, well, the White House's website.
It said this marks the largest ever order for Boeing's wide body aircraft, as well as the largest ever 787 order.
The White House said that the deal will, quote, support 154,000 U.S. jobs annually, which would total more than a million jobs over the production and delivery cycle.
For the deal.
Okay, so here has been the model for a long time.
Important American industry like cars, like banks, like Boeing gets in trouble for a variety of reasons.
Solution we're going to bail them out with tax dollars.
That's what you were alluding to earlier.
That's kind of been the playbook for a long time.
So when the government gets involved to save, you know, whether you think it's a worthwhile or not worthwhile industry, but the government steps in to try and save this American company.
The only solution that they can think of is, ah, we'll give them tax dollars.
What I think is so interesting about this is Trump said, I'm not going to let Boeing go under, but also I'm not going to put it on the American people.
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So what he did essentially was he goes overseas and basically he finds investment capital.
It's not even investment capital.
He finds new clients for them so that Boeing can do what it's actually supposed to be doing, which is building airplanes.
It's a huge injection of revenue into the company.
I'm sure part of Trump's deal with tariffs and with his push for American manufacturing, that's what the White House statement was alluding to, is he's telling Boeing, look, Boeing, these have to be American jobs, right?
154,000 jobs a year, adding up to, because it's a multi year process, over a million US American jobs, which that goes all the way from higher tech jobs to assembly line jobs to security guards and janitors and all of these things, right?
So Trump's position is let's save America.
Not by just throwing money at Boeing, but I, as the leader of America, I'm going to go out.
I'm going to lobby on behalf of Boeing.
I'm going to find them clients.
It's going to be mutually beneficial.
And in that way, I'm going to try and save this company, which I think is quite remarkable and a big change.
Yep.
That's a big change.
Yeah.
We want Boeing to succeed if it can, but not artificially.
Yep.
And so Trump actually finding business for them is a pleasant change of pace.
You think of like the housing market crash, you know, and all the banks being bailed out, you know, by federal tax dollars.
So it's like, so everybody's losing, you know, Massive amount of equity in their homes, and simultaneously also having to fit the bill for all the banks that, in many ways, caused the problem.
If you ever watched The Big Short with Steve Correa, that the banks were giving loans that were crap loans to people who couldn't afford them and knew that they couldn't afford them, but just kept doing it anyways.
So, yeah, so there's been multiple examples in our recent history of.
Corruption in significant major corporations and they fail and go belly up because of actual, you know, corrupt decisions.
And then the government bails them out with our tax dollars.
So a corporation exploits people, the American people, and then gets the American people, you know, their tax dollars to bail them out.
And so for Trump to say, all right, here are some longstanding American companies and we want.
Jobs to stay here.
We want manufacturing to stay here.
We don't want to see them fail.
But I'm going to broker deals for them, business, instead of just handouts.
It's a positive development.
Yep.
And like I said earlier, Raytheon's getting some of this, Google's getting some of this.
They're going to build AI plants.
So the hard thing is, Trump is as president.
Some of us might be skeptical of Raytheon or Google or things like that.
But Trump's looking at that and saying, are they an American company or not?
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Are they in trouble or not?
Google actually is in a little bit of trouble right now with the rise of AI.
Their search engine monopoly has been dropping really quickly over the last couple of months.
So, even that, Trump's like, okay, how can I help out Google?
We don't want them to go under.
Maybe we would all like to see Google go under.
But Trump's saying America first.
And this is part of what it means.
So that's why it was a white pill for me.
Yeah.
Google.
Yeah.
I could do without, you know, agreed.
But yeah, I would like to see Intel succeed.
I'd like to see Boeing succeed.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay, good.
Let's turn domestically for a little bit.
This one is just delightful.
This is the Wisconsin judge who has been arrested now and actually brought up, indicted by a grand jury for harboring an illegal immigrant.
Well, harboring, no.
So the background of this story is that there was this illegal immigrant who.
Was being charged of crimes and they were pretty gruesome crimes.
I mean, he was extremely violent and abusive.
Some of the details are stomping on this girl's head, this lady's head.
He's here illegally, and so ICE and Border Customs Control have him.
He's facing charges, and at the end of the trial, where was he from?
Somalian?
No, it was somewhere South American.
Probably Japan, huh?
Probably Japan.
Yeah.
So He's done.
Like, he's going to be taken away because he's now a violent criminal.
He'll be put on the list with, if they ever get around to actually deporting them, probably to El Salvador.
We actually have a treaty with El Salvador now to take Spanish speaking South American illegal aliens.
So he's done.
So the judge, breaking protocol, basically steps in and says, I want a counsel.
I want to meet in chambers with the attorney and the guy who's now been found guilty, right?
This criminal, which is unusual.
Normally at that point, he's in handcuffs, they take him off.
So she, like, what's going on?
She takes him back into her chambers and with his attorney.
All I hear is you just keep saying she.
This is 100% true.
And it makes sense to me.
And then lets him out a side door to avoid having to go through security where ICE and Border Patrol are waiting for him and thinking, I'm going to let this guy go and he's going to run away and they're never going to get him and deport him back to that mean prison in El Salvador, et cetera.
It didn't work.
He was caught almost.
It is a pretty mean prison.
Well, but it's deserved.
Yes.
It didn't work.
He was caught almost immediately.
But the point is, she completely circumvented the justice system.
And aided and abetted this guy trying to escape justice.
He was not even just like out on bail.
He had been found guilty at this point.
So she gets indicted by a grand jury.
So, Nate, let's just show this.
I mean, this is the first of hopefully many, many to come.
So, the question that we're asking with this is Is this the first of many to come?
Like, is the Justice Department under Trump actually getting serious about going after some of these?
Criminal leftist agitators, whether they're judges or even politicians.
There was that story last week about the Democrat politicians who were at the rally, they were punching police, things like that.
I would hope all of them get arrested.
But this is the grand jury statement.
It says on or about April 18th, 2025, in the state of the Eastern District of Wisconsin, Hannah C. Duggan, this is the judge, knowingly concealed EFR person for whose arrest a warrant and process had been issued under the provision of the law of the United States.
So, as to prevent the discovery and arrest of EFR after notice and knowledge of the fact that a warrant and process had been issued for the apprehension of EFR.
And then it goes on.
My point was, this is a grand jury indictment.
This is, to me, a big step.
Yeah.
Right.
I hope, I hope it's a sign of more to come from the Trump Justice Department.
We'll see.
Yeah.
I can't wait till Ilhan Omar gets one of these.
She.
That would be great.
I think it could be coming.
She has been.
I saw something with her earlier this week where she seems legitimately worried about her legal safety right now, you know, as far as being arrested or that sort of thing.
Because what she did earlier was clearly illegal.
I mean, it's not even a question.
Oh, you're thinking, you said Ilhan Omar.
I'm sorry.
I was thinking AOC.
I was her too.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's number one on the domestic front.
Joel, anything else to add with that?
If not, I'm going to move on.
There's a comment, Daniel Price.
He said, by the way, in case you missed those parts of the Bible, Jesus fed the hungry and healed the sick for free.
He wouldn't strip away public assistance, Social Security, and Medicaid.
Shame on you.
Brilliant point.
I don't, yeah, so that's a libtard view right there.
But I don't remember Daniel Price, the moment where Jesus fed the hungry by taking food away from other people.
I remember him supernaturally multiplying food so that no one was stolen from.
But I don't remember the point where.
You know, where Jesus actually is stealing from others who are working and giving it to those who don't.
The Apostle Paul actually says, commissioned by Christ, he says that if you do not work, then you shall not eat.
So take your communist crap to somebody else's channel because we do not tolerate it here.
Yep.
We actually love people.
Yes.
Right.
Because under the The veil of Daniel's comment is you guys don't love people.
Right.
Right.
No, we do love people.
And we believe that there is a category of the legitimately poor and destitute.
Right.
Right.
That we should have compassion on.
And insofar as God leads us to and we're able to be kind and compassionate to them, do so.
But as far as a system, no, we love people.
We want them to work.
We want them to be self sufficient.
We want families to be expected to provide for their children, fathers to have to provide for their children.
That is the loving way to arrange society.
And those who Will not do so, should not be rewarded for their laziness.
Right.
Right.
Especially those from other countries.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even doubly so.
Yeah.
Even doubly so.
Yeah.
Like, I saw, like, the clip of some Muslim, black Muslim, who's being interviewed, staying at, like, a refugee camp, and it looked like a gymnasium.
Oh, was this in England?
Yes.
That was amazing.
And so he's being interviewed by, you know, some British journalist, and the guy says, like, why, like, Why are you here?
The journalist said that.
Yeah.
And the guy can, the only thing that he can even like say in English, you know, he speaks, you know, very, very small amount of English, but he says, give me, give me house, you know, like you can give me house, you know, give me food.
And he's like, the journalist responds, why?
Why?
Yeah.
You know, and he says, because you, I think he says the word perfect.
And what he means is like, Because you're everything's taken care of, you know, you guys can afford it, you're rich basically.
Um, he's like, No, we're not all rich, we can't give the entire world, um, that the whole world can't move here and give everybody free housing and free income, universal income, and free food, and all those kinds of things.
Like, that's not something that we're actually capable of doing.
Um, we live in the real world, we have finite resources, and everyone can't come here, right?
You're going to have to stay and work to improve your country, yep.
So, absolutely.
Good.
Okay.
Well, let's hit our next commercial break.
And when we come back, we're going to talk about briefly the ruling on Trump being able to use the Alien Enemies Act.
And is it as big of a white pill as we think it is?
I think it's encouraging, but this one is a small pill.
It's a little tablet, not a giant horse pill.
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So we're going to wrap up with a little more legal victory, it seems.
So here's the deal.
President Trump, I wish I knew the exact date, but several months ago, was starting to deport the Venezuelan gang members, Trinidad y Huagua.
This was also related to some of the deportations of the El Salvadorians who were going back to El Salvador and going to prison there.
And they had the federal judge block it, okay, and say, no, you can't do that.
They're not getting the due process, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
They're not being treated with due process.
Well, Trump was appealing to an old statute from the 1800s, maybe in the 1700s, no, 1800s, that was, it was called the Alien Enemies Act, Foreign Alien Enemies Act,
which said that the president is, without any questions being asked, Allowed to remove, deport people who are part of an invasion or an army or some sort of incursion from a foreign government or foreign land.
Okay.
So this is not going to cover all illegal immigration.
Right.
There were a couple steps that had to happen.
Trump had to declare members of these gangs and the governments that they came from as enemy actors.
Right.
So for instance, he had to clear Venezuela an enemy actor.
And he had to declare Trendaragua, which was the gang that came from Venezuela, as having been sent, in a sense, by them.
They're not wearing a uniform.
They're not, you know, an army waving their flag.
But what happened was the Venezuelan government, these gang members were so violent.
A lot of them were in jail, but they couldn't even be contained in jail.
And so what happened was the Venezuelan government released them and they said, we think it would be best for you and for us, for you guys to go find somewhere else to be.
By the way, the U.S. might be that great somewhere else to be.
So Trump followed that logic and that reasoning, and he said, Okay, this gang and some of the other ones have been essentially commissioned by a foreign nation to come here and invade us and do hostile things to us.
Right.
And this was the one that had taken over the apartment complex in Colorado, right.
Um, and done a whole bunch of other stuff.
They're really, really, I mean, like MS 13 for a while was the number one violent gang, the most violent gang, but Trendor Aragua.
Has overtaken them, as far as I know.
So Trump was arguing I am allowed to deport all of these, every single one that we find with no questions.
They don't have to go to court.
We can just send them out because of this Alien Enemies Act.
And it's an old statute that he was going back to.
Now, what happened was a federal judge, and so federal judge is one level basically below the Supreme Court, if I'm getting that right.
Just this week, overrode a block that a lower court made.
A lower court a couple weeks ago had said, no, that is not a valid application of that statute.
They have to be a uniformed military soldier in order for this to apply.
And so Trump's attempt to deport these gang members was blocked by this lower court.
And what happened was just this week, a higher court, a federal court, said, no, I actually agree with Trump's reading on this.
We can call them foreign enemies.
Deployed by a foreign nation.
And because of that, because Trump went through the process of declaring Venezuela hostile to us and these people as this gang as basically emissaries of that nation, Trump did the legal groundwork necessary.
He can get rid of every single one of the deported, every single one of these that he wants, basically without any question or any say.
Okay.
So this was a big win federally.
Now, what it did not do, and this is why it's a small white pill, the reason it's a white pill at all is this is a federal judge.
Agreeing that that old legislation can be applied in a modern context.
So that opens the door to lots of further application of this law.
Hopefully, as Trump will see, continues to deport at least the violent gang members.
Why it's a small pill is the federal judge said it does only apply to the Venezuelan gangs because you've already gone through the process of declaring Venezuela as a hostile nation.
and the gangs is basically their emissaries.
Furthermore, the judge said they have to be given 30 days to contest their affiliation or something like that.
So the reason it's a white pill is it's just another chink out of the system, which has seemingly been working to prevent Trump from getting rid of anybody.
I mean, if we can't agree that this sort of criminal, violent to this level, should be removed from our country, then what are we doing?
Like the battle is over, right?
You know, so I say it's a white pill because it will open the door.
It's a big crack in the armor, it's a legal victory for Trump, which matters momentum wise.
Um, it's a small white bill because it's only going to target these Venezuelan gangs because of the legal procedure required, right?
So, right, yeah, no, it's encouraging, but ultimately, uh, it does still seem tiny drop in the bucket, yeah.
And it just seems like, to be honest, um, he's gonna have to just do things, he's gonna just have to, well.
And the charitable side of me says he's hoping to do things legally because it would probably be bitter for the country if the Supreme Court would say, yeah, this is within your right.
Sure.
Because if he does it against the Supreme Court or even against Congress, it will cause a significant amount of conflict.
Yeah.
Right.
So I'm hoping that he's trying to do everything possible on the front end to do it legally or within the rules.
But you're right.
I think at the end of the day, he is just going to have to do things.
Right.
Yeah, I think there's.
I, my suspicion is I think everything is probably leading up to a Rubicon crossing moment.
And, um, and I hope that, you know, when that, I think, inevitably comes, that he does, in fact, cross.
Um, but I, I think, I think we're going to see some, some pretty big things, uh, during this term.
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All right.
Cool.
Any final thoughts or conclusions?
My only final thought is I wished I had said this on Wednesday.
Okay.
So, Um, you did kind of get there by the end of it, Joel.
But don't despair, guys.
Like, even if we were to be saying we're facing the end of a nation, oh, that's right.
Even if we're saying we're facing the end of a nation, someone in the chat right at the beginning said it is a discipline to daily thank God for his many blessings.
Yeah, right.
We need to remember that, right?
We as Christians, we don't even face you know, I think of the verse that says we do not grieve as those who have no hope in terms of looking at people who die and who pass away.
Well, we don't look at the death of a nation or even the substantial altering of a way of life the same way as non Christians do.
There's grief.
There is being wide-eyed, not wide-eyed, but clear-eyed and not putting our head in the sand.
But there's not despair, right?
Christians, we do not despair, even in trying times, even facing serious, significant cultural challenges.
And maybe we're seeing like the scales have been tipped so far that they can't be skipped back.
Even if that's the case, we are not to react to that the way that those who have no hope do.
Right.
So that's kind of where I wished I had said that on Wednesday.
I'm glad I have a chance to say it again today.
Yeah.
Amen.
Yeah.
I wasn't, you know, I got maybe a little dark, but ultimately, when I say the end of America as a Christian, that's not the end of the church.
That's not the end of Christianity.
That's not the end of us.
I was just projecting and thinking, you know, what do I think, not as a prescription, certainly, but as a prediction.
What do I think is most likely to come about?
And I do think that just our country is massive and not just the number of people, although there are millions and millions of people who don't belong here.
But if we found a way to deport the people who need to be deported, it's not so much that numerically the country is too big, but just its geographic landmass.
You think of Europe and it's not states, it's countries.
There's multiple sovereign nations.
Within, and you can have some measure of partnership and being allied.
But the United States is a massive, massive country geographically.
And we're continuing to be more and more divided on a number of issues.
And we've chosen to compromise and make terrible decisions from abortion to homosexuality and also to multiculturalism, like flooding the nation with.
With people from all over the world, and many of them, not all, but many of them having no desire to assimilate and no desire to actually truly be American and sifting America for its financial benefits, but giving little to nothing back in return.
And so when I look at just on the whole, I think that if I'm panning out 50 to 100 years, I think some.
Some form of succession is probably in the cards.
It's probably likely.
Yeah.
I think the best.
So, even that, I'm not even necessarily saying as a black pill.
Yep.
Because it could be an incredible improvement.
Yep.
You know, I think the hope is that it would happen without a bunch of violence.
Right.
And a war.
That would be ideal.
Yep.
But it is, I think one of the best things that we have going for us is sin makes you stupid.
And so, you know, it's, there's usually not like a lot of evil geniuses.
You might have started off reasonably intelligent, but the more and more you give yourself over to sin, it actually dulls your senses.
You actually become illogical.
You actually become stupid.
And so I'm thinking that even South Africa and things that are going on there, because they've done it before, other countries have done this, but there's a lot of people who are excited about the boers, all the white farmers leaving.
What was the country?
It wasn't South Africa.
It was another country that had a similar situation where.
They decided that there was too much disparity and they needed equity.
And so they took the farms.
They actually just seized property without any compensation.
Government just went.
Are you sure it wasn't South Africa?
This did happen in South Africa a little while ago.
Seized the farmland from the white farmers and gave it to a bunch of black people, you know, and then they started starving.
Yeah.
And then they decided, oh my goodness, what have we done?
And they gave it back.
So my point is, like, people are stupid.
The wicked are stupid.
And so my point is, as it pertains to America, there may not have to be a war.
Like, there actually, I could see.
Leftists being so, so stupid that they're like, yeah, let's get rid of all the conservatives, you know.
And then they, you know, when they start starving, inevitably, you know, in short order, because they realize, oh my goodness, like, but we're just left with a bunch of homos and lazy people who don't want to work and like in criminals, you know, like, and like the people who are actually propping up our entire society, turns out they're actually the conservatives.
Oh my goodness, what have we done?
So I could, you know, I could actually see us getting to a parting, you know, mutual parting of ways.
That would be entirely one sided beneficial for more conservative states.
But the left being so stupid that they don't even put up a fight, they actually see it as a good thing, just like South Africa is like, yeah, good, go to the white farmers.
That's a really good analogy, actually.
Get out of here.
Yeah, we hope you self deport and all the white farmers leave.
And then, of course, South Africa will implode and tons of people will starve because the white farmers, the white population in South Africa, that's, I think, Only like 10%.
Yeah, it's not very many.
Yeah, I think that's about right.
It's a vast minority.
And they own, I think, 70% of the land.
Right.
So there's a perceived disparity.
Right.
So they're like, this is not fair.
And it's like, yeah, well, they kind of keep the country afloat.
Yep.
And they produce the vast amount of the country's resources.
And you can get rid of all of them and then say, well, it's just, it's unfair.
It's just because they came in and colonized us, you know, or they did this or they did that.
And We'll be better off without them.
And South Africa may get its chance to see.
We'll see if they're better off.
But if that's what happens in America where it's like conservatives are just dragging us down, that would be great.
That's kind of like the old children's story where the rabbit says, You can do anything to me, just don't throw me in the briar patch.
You're not allowed to tell that story anymore, Joel.
That is a racist story.
Why is it racist?
Because of the black tar baby.
Return to Nationalism00:06:37
Oh, I forgot that part.
It was removed from Disney.
Oh, I see.
They changed the whole ride.
Classic.
But yeah, if that happened in America, you know, it was like, then, you know, I could actually see it happening without a war because of just the stupidity of sin and thinking, oh, this will be great for us, you know, and not realizing, oh, no, we just, what did we just give up?
So it's possible.
And I think, you know, it's going to take time, but I do think that nature is healing.
And there is that factor.
You know, and I like, I think there's a resorting.
Like a return from globalism to nationalism, whether it's Argentina or El Salvador, Hungary or the United States or Russia.
Like, there are a bunch.
Now, there's massive pushback.
Like, the globalists still want to do their thing, you know.
But there are some nations who are waking up and saying, No, like, we care about our nation and we don't want to be at war with the rest of the world.
But no, we like, we care about our people, our nation.
And I think if we can continue to do that and set the conditions properly within each sovereign nation where You know, there's not free handouts for everybody.
You know, like a lot of people will go back home.
Yeah.
You know, and for white people, it's like that's the thing is like, you know, when your home's being invaded, you don't have anywhere else to go.
Like, there is no back home for us, you know, like, so it's like, okay, you go back to England.
Okay.
Well, they're even more invaded than we are, you know, with Muslims.
And so, so I think that, you know, I think that if we can have a return to nationalism, if we can get some good conservative leadership that sets fair and just conditions.
To where you're not stealing from your native population in order to give to immigrants who have no desire to assimilate and no desire to benefit the nation, a lot of people will end up leaving.
And I think multiculturalism has just kind of come to a fever pitch and overplayed its hand.
And I think that we could actually see a return.
Part of the reason why race relations are at an all time low is because leftists, I mean, I say part of the reason.
Pretty much the entirety of the reason.
Like leftists overplay their hand and invited millions and millions of people from around the world and then told minorities that even are native to America, like the black population, that the reason why you're down and out is because white people have been mistreating you.
And all these things have been happening and just kind of culminating and coming to a head for decades, but especially in the last like five to 10 years, really coming to a head.
And I think people are starting to wake up.
And I don't, I'd like it to be Christianity.
Yes.
Right?
I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian pastor.
Like, I'd like it to be Christianity.
But to be frank, as I'm surveying what's going on right now, I mean, it's pretty phenomenal how quickly things are changing.
And part of the reason why we want to be Christians who actually talk about these kinds of things and stand in the gap is because we want to say that historic Christianity has ways of dealing.
With these things.
Historic Christianity is not gay race communism.
That's not actually the Christian position.
That's a misnomer.
And that's liberalism that pretends to be modern Christianity.
But historic Christianity has ways of esteeming sovereign nations.
The Ordo Amoris is a Christian idea.
And it does these things with a firm hand, but also humanely and with compassion and love.
And so I'm.
I'm encouraged because I actually think the world is setting back to it.
I think it's returning to its default settings.
That said, though, I don't know if Christianity will win the day in the short run.
In the short run.
It will ultimately.
I believe that the seed will grow into a mustard seed that covers the whole face of the earth.
The knowledge of the glory of God will fill the whole earth as the waters cover the sea.
So I believe that Christ wins and he doesn't just win at the bottom of the ninth.
But he wins gradually and progressively throughout human history through his body, the church.
That is how Christ, the head of the church, wins through his body.
But in the short run, so I think that happens.
I believe that happens.
But in the short run, I think we're returning, the world is returning to default settings, a return to nature, a return to nationalism, a return to patriarchy, a return to tradition, all these things.
And it's either going to be, because there's not just, Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on those things.
Christianity has those things in its truest sense and its most just sense, but Islam adheres to nature.
Pagan, there are certain, you know, pagan forms that adhere to nature.
There, you know, so there are other worldviews that could win the day.
So if Christianity insists, if modern, you know, Christians insist on Christianity being, you know, one with, you know, 20th century liberalism, then the world will look elsewhere.
Because the world, I think, is starting to realize, like, we can't do this anymore.
And so, but my point is whether it's Christian return to natural law, winning the day, or just some other worldview, I do think that we're going to have a return to nationalism, to traditionalism, to, yeah, I think multiculturalism is on its way out.
And there'll be fierce opposition all along the way, you know, leftists kicking and screaming.
But that ship is going to set sail.
And my hope is.
Is that there'll be a return not just to nature, but a return to a Christian natural order.
But it's tough sometimes because you have so many Christians who are insisting very loudly that Christianity is gay race communism and that they're one in the same.
So we'll see what happens.
I want to deal with one detail here, real quick.
Yeah.
There's a debate going on, and it's a legitimate concern.
Christian Natural Order Returns00:03:20
Even this is Lobster's question.
Even in the ruling that the federal judge gave about the Foreign Alien Enemies Act, Even there, with these Trendy Aragua gang members that they already have rounded up, he said, and I don't remember right off if it was 21 days or 30 days, but the judge said there must still be either 21 days or 30 days for them to provide evidence that they actually are not gang members, that they're U.S. citizens.
Right?
So even the ones that are, when I said Trump can do what he wants without impunity, I didn't mean immediately grabbing them in the middle of the night and within two and a half hours they're in El Salvador.
The judges, and actually, Some of this has been written into Trump's executive orders all along.
Even the one that's being debated about right now in the Supreme Court about birthright citizenship.
You know, all of these have these 30 day clauses where people have 30 days to sort things out and make sure that they, you know, were not scooped up improperly or something like that.
So the judge has already dealt with that, Lobster.
It's a good question.
But even these gang members that are already rounded up, the federal ruling was yes, Trump can deport them.
They have 21 days to prove.
That they're not foreign agents and illegal immigrants or illegal aliens.
Yeah, we're not even close.
Like, people are like, oh, this tyranny, or oh, like, you just forget how incredibly benevolent our nation is to everyone, to the whole world.
Like, that is not, that is not, we're not even close to falling in the ditch on the other side of the road.
When people think, like, you know, I saw somebody in the chat say, like, Well, you know, what's to stop ICE from, you know, rounding you up and deporting you?
You know, it's like you don't understand what's going on.
We're talking about violent Venezuelan gang members.
And we can't even deport them.
Right.
Like, we're not even close to, you know what I mean?
So, like, people are like, you know, that's the old adage that, you know, people always say, well, but if we exercise this power, then one day, you know, our political opponents, they'll have this power.
And what if they use it against us?
Meanwhile, there's literally a gun to our head.
You know, and you're about to, you're next in line, you know, to be executed.
And you're like, well, you know, but the Constitution, you're like, and it's just like, guys, you don't understand where we're at.
We're not even close to erring on the other side, you know, taking extreme measures that go too far the other direction.
That's just, that's not what time it is.
If we ever get there, I don't even know if we'll ever get there, but if we ever get there, it's like, you know what, this is actually some far right authoritarian that's infringing against private.
Private rights and private citizens, then, yeah, we'll have that conversation.
If we even see it on the horizon, you know, we won't just wait till it's happening.
We'll have the conversation if it looks like it's even a possibility.
Right now, it is not even a possibility.
It's like, we have a total leftist takeover.
Fascism is not the concern.
Elite Spiritual Awareness00:01:57
Right.
Communism is a concern.
And we just need to know what time it is.
So thank you guys for tuning in.
We hope that this episode has been helpful for you.
For you.
And if you're just now tuning in, watching us live, as we said at the beginning of the episode, Lord willing, we will have our very own Wesley Todd back with us in the studio on Monday.
So, all next week, it'll be the three of us, Michael and Wesley and myself.
And we're going to try to, if we can, maybe talk about the Diddy cakes and some of the dark underpinnings of Hollywood and elites in our society that are not just greedy, they're not just exploiting people, trying to make money or corrupt in their business dealings.
But you need to be aware that we're talking about people who worship demons.
And we're not being figurative.
No, we're not being figurative.
Like people think that secularism was always a facade, it was never real.
Yeah.
It was never real.
And so, like, we, because we've all been indoctrinated to some degree or another, myself included, by secular humanism and liberalism and the Enlightenment and all these things, we think, you know, that everything can just be analyzed, that everything is just, you know, it's just materialism.
You know, and we forget, like, no, we but we live in a spiritual world, um, and and there really are spiritual powers.
And, um, and the further you get to the top, um, your elite people are not further removed from the spiritual reality, if anything, they're actually more acutely aware of it.
Yes, they're actually more so.
So, your top elite people in Western societies are actually highly religious, they're not less religious, they're not particularists, they're actually more religious, um, but they just.
They worship demons, you know, instead of the triune God.
So that would be a great episode, and we'll do our best to deal with it.