The Watchers, The Nephilim, & Atlantis - ICYMI with @hauntedcosmos_ posits Plato's Atlantis as the Eye of the Sahara, ruled by Atlas, a Nephilim son of Poseidon and Cleto. Hosts argue this antediluvian city, destroyed by floods between 4,500 and 11,000 years ago, housed advanced granite machining exceeding modern precision due to fallen angel knowledge. While some view mermaids as cursed mortal women and others as elemental angels, the discussion highlights "primary water" theories and ancient technologies. Ultimately, these claims support a young earth creationist narrative of de-creation, promoting their 2025 Christ is King Conference and upcoming Season 3 episodes on global myths. [Automatically generated summary]
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Biblical Accounts of Atlantis00:14:48
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In Plato's dialogues, Critias and Timaeus, he talks about a strange place called Atlantis.
According to him, Atlantis was a powerful and advanced civilization located somewhere near the Pillars of Hercules, what we now know as the Strait of Gibraltar.
It was ruled by a series of kings descended from the god Poseidon and was renowned for its wealth, military prowess, and sophisticated society.
However, Atlantis became corrupt and imperialistic, leading the Athenians to defeat them in a cataclysmic war around 9,000 years before Plato's time.
As punishment, the gods submerged Atlantis beneath the ocean in a single day and night.
Given its legendary status, many moderns assume that Atlantis never existed.
But has Atlantis been hiding in plain sight all along?
Yes.
And here's the answer.
Welcome to the show.
Episode over.
Atlantis might even give us the mother of all mermaids.
You don't like it.
You love it.
It's actually Brian's view.
I don't like it.
I'm skeptical, but it's Brian's official view.
Like on record, here's two things that I know for sure.
Okay.
I need to know which camera I'm looking at here so I can make.
Go for the red.
The red one.
Okay.
Listen, two things are sure.
We know where Atlantis was.
Yes.
Without a doubt.
No doubt.
And number two, Joel is wrong about the mother of the mermaids.
Okay.
Well, I'm not even saying it's my view, but I'll give it, you know, and But number three, are we just primarily right?
Water is legit.
Yeah.
All three of us agree.
Primary water is not even a theory.
We're not just one.
Gospel of Jesus Christ, 100%.
It's not even close.
The number of times you guys have used primary water, it's making me uncomfortable.
Primary water, also 100%.
Not importance, but safety.
Yeah, we've learned that.
Wait, you just went up to 100.
Yeah.
Well, and here's, I think we can add.
Right on, right on.
We can add another thing we know.
We could revive the city of Atlantis with a primary water well, which there is one in the middle of the city of Atlantis.
Well, and that's why it works in.
So, we're going to talk about primary water.
We're going to talk about mermaids, some.
We're going to talk about Nephilim, because I think Plato's conception of a king with 10 sons and a diadem definitely works in.
Indeed.
So, all this is important.
But first, we should start with location.
Yeah, let's talk a little bit about why we're saying we know where Atlantis is.
Right.
Because, like you said in the Cold Open, we have this very, actually, it's just, it hangs by a thread, historically speaking, our knowledge of this place called Atlantis.
Right.
It's really one historical account preserved like Ben described.
And for most people that listen, they go, that's the end of the story.
They speculate about maybe a few offshore locations, sunken cities, things like that, assuming it's out in the ocean somewhere.
There's the Atlantis of Japan.
Yeah.
The Yanaguni element.
Or it's just completely made up.
But what happens is that if you go to a little place called the Sahara Desert, more exciting.
Right in plain sight, but you wouldn't expect it.
And you start to lay out a certain set of facts around a certain location.
You will not only, I'm convinced, anybody who looks into this, not only will you say, wow, that could be Atlantis, you will conclude that is Atlantis.
And then let me tell you, a nail in the coffin for me, which I already was certain, but today it's just like it was another nail.
There actually is another historical account of Atlantis, which I did not know about until today.
From Herodotus.
And that is Herodotus, the father of history.
The father of history.
You might want to hold on to that one.
Yes.
Had compiled a map of the known world in his day.
And down there, right where we believe Atlantis would expect Atlantis to be, he had labeled a little circle and he had written.
Atlantis.
So let me lay out a few facts.
And real quick, wasn't there also a connection with like a ruler there being Atlas?
Yeah, let me lay out a few facts.
I'm going too fast.
And then you guys jump in.
We'll fill it in.
We'll get all of them by the end.
So there's this place in the Sahara Desert, which first of all, you're like Sahara Desert.
I thought we're talking about a sunken city.
We thought we were talking about the underwater city.
We're talking about a place in Atlantis.
It's called the Eye of the Sahara.
It's a known landmark in this region.
That doesn't get a lot of attention because it's so far from any habitable place and any kind of tourist sort of location.
People don't travel to it.
But if you look at it from above, it's about a 23 to 24 kilometer in diameter.
Which lines up perfectly, by the way, with what Plato says.
A series of, in the center, there's an island or what would be if you had water at a certain level.
And then there are rings of land around it, which perfectly matches the description, physical description.
Each of these rings are like mounds that would be above the water.
Oh, yep.
Or you might even call them, you know, because it's, Rings are like serpent mounds.
Yeah, like almost like a spiral.
It looks much like spirals are always positive.
And spirals are evil.
We know this to be true.
And it's in a location.
Unironically, but the middle would be above the sea level if there had been water.
And each of these circles, concentric circles, would also be at the same kind of level.
And there'd be water in between each one of them.
And the number of rings for land versus water also match up to what Plato said.
Three and two.
So it's in a land that we call today Mauritania.
And surrounding it, there are mountains called the Atlas Mountains.
Now, Atlantis just means the city of Atlas.
That's what it means.
And in legend, the original king of Atlantis was a man named Atlas.
Who was Atlas?
Atlas was a Nephilim.
He was a Nephilim.
Straight up.
He was the son of Poseidon, who was a fallen watcher.
Who, according to the legend, takes to wife a mortal woman named Cleto and has 10 sons.
The mother of mermaids.
According to Joel, the mother of mermaids.
According to Joel.
The mother of Nephilim.
Yeah.
But also mermaids and mermaids, they had 10 sons.
So, anyway, the first mermaid 10 sons who ruled the kingdoms, Brian's position, who ruled the realms.
And what's fascinating about this so, this is supposedly a legendary account here, but Mauritania has a people that are now known as more the Berber people.
I think they became even Islamic at some point later history.
They used to be called the Muri people, but before that, and the Muri people.
Guess, Ben, just tell us who was according to their own history the first king of the Moray people.
It was a fella named Atlas.
Oh my goodness.
They say that their first king was this legendary demigod figure named Atlas.
Named Atlas.
And the ruler of the capital city of the Atlantean Empire, which was Atlantis, was Atlas the Nephilim child of Poseidon and Cleto.
There were.
Okay, so real quick.
So, do we have any documentation that says Poseidon was the father of Atlas?
Yes.
Tell me.
Well, like Homer.
Okay.
You know, Ovid in the Metamorphoses.
And Herodotus, say the guy, father of Herodotus.
Herodotus, father of history.
And how much does he predate Plato?
He predates Plato.
He was because Plato's getting his attention.
Herodotus died when Plato was two years old.
Yeah.
And Herodotus came around about 200 years after Plato's great, great, great, great, or great, great, great, great, Beautiful.
You nailed it.
You nailed it.
Right.
But it's also because it's still fresh on my mind.
Yeah.
So give it 20 minutes and I'll be in trouble.
But the point is, Herodotus is that we're not talking about hundreds of years, hundreds of years predating Plato, but Plato was actually two years old.
But in Plato's lineage, not the father of history, in Plato's lineage, you've got back, back, back before Herodotus is Solon.
Solon.
And he went to Alexandria and that's where he discovered the legend of.
2600.
Really, probably not legend.
He discovered the history of it.
He received it from the Egyptian priests as history.
As historical narrative.
This was in around 600 ish BC, 2600 years ago.
So, further, now this is a desert region.
Right.
Obviously, but surrounding.
Something happened.
The physical description Solon preserves has many, many very specific and particular physical characteristics.
It's surrounded by a mountain range on a certain side that has rivers running down into it.
The northern Atlas Mountains have rivers that come down, river basins that are now bone dry.
It's all dry.
It's clearly carved out by rivers.
They were there.
Out of the southern entrance now, then the water flows out.
Clearly, this is exactly what we see when we look over this landscape.
We see the landscape as well, it looks like it had been catastrophically deluged with extraordinary amounts of running water.
I can't think of a single event.
Is there an event in history?
It's hard to think of a single event.
Lots of water quickly.
Let's see if we can get Ken Ham on the phone.
The timeline would add up.
So when Solon came around.
That's a global flood.
Solon is not local.
His nose flood.
Not local.
Yeah, the Portland hardest hit.
So Solon said that I believe it was 9,000 years before his time.
Yeah, which would have been about 11,000 something.
Right, which I doubt those numbers as completely accurate because I think that the Bible is right about holy the earth.
Wow, 3,000 years.
The fact is, it was a long time before Solon, who was a long time before Plato, who's a long time before us.
And so it's very reasonable.
And I genuinely mean this.
It's going to sound like I'm joking.
It's very reasonable to say that Atlantis was an antediluvian, a pre flood city.
That's all it means, pre flood, ruled by a Nephilim king that was highly advanced.
And real quick, Nephilim, what we're saying there is Atlas would be the Nephilim king.
Atlas was the one.
And to be Nephilim, that means he had a human mother who married and procreated with a fallen angel father.
That would be Poseidon.
Poseidon.
Some of these fallen angels, we believe they were princes, spiritual princes, rulers given dominion over principalities.
The principalities.
Are not a thing, but rather a place.
Think of principalities in the same way you would think of provinces in Canada or regions or states.
And some of these might not just be on land with nations and peoples, but oceans, water, certain topography, and things like that.
So, what if one of the fallen angels, watchers that rebelled against God, came down to earth and is a prince over a particular principality?
His particular principality happens to be over water and in a land region on the coast.
At the time, it was on the coast.
Had access to water.
The city itself was, water was a big part of it.
It was said to be a very important port city.
Very important port city.
And so this is Poseidon, and that he actually does have power over wind and waves, not to the degree that Jesus, who is he, the disciples say, who could command the winds and waves and they obey him.
But we know that Satan in the book of Job had authority to cause a great wind to make the house of Job's children collapse from a wind, nature, a wind, and kill them.
So it's not that Jesus alone, that God alone has power over wind and waves.
He has the supreme power over wind and waves.
So the idea that one of these watchers, fallen angels, Over a particular region, a port city dealing with water, and that that fallen angel would be a water type power over waves and water, Poseidon, and that he marries a human woman and has a half fallen angel, half human child that becomes the king of the city, Atlas.
Who then has 10 sons.
No, no.
Right?
No.
It was Poseidon and Cleato had five sets of twins.
And Atlas was the.
First out of the world.
He's one of them, that's right.
And he was set over Atlantis, the capital of the world.
Because it was the whole region.
Right, it was an empire.
Yes, that's right.
And then the other 10 sons ruled different regions of the Atlantean.
And just to finish spelling it out, just because we know this for sure.
Because Brian wants his view to be communicated as well.
So, with all that, the fallen watcher, Poseidon, perhaps the same individual known by the Philistines, and I'm not saying it has to be the same, but it's possible the same that's known as Poseidon in some mythology, Greek mythology, is this fallen angel.
But then known to the Philistines as Dagon.
To the Romans as Neptune.
As Neptune.
Exactly.
So this is real.
The biblical account, actually, the biblical narrative accounts for this.
And then the wife, the human wife, Cleo.
Cleo.
Cleo.
So now this is the last part that I personally am skeptical of, but Brian believes it 100%.
Again, exact opposite of what he just said.
I'm glad that everyone knows that I don't think this is legit.
But it's more interesting. now.
It's worth mentioning.
Okay.
So I don't believe it 100% either.
I'm joking about Brian.
He doesn't believe it.
I think that it's within the realm of possibility, but I'm not even giving it 50%.
But Enoch says, now Enoch is not canon.
And it's not just because of Constantine and the Council of Nicaea cheated.
No, I think there are actual reasons.
I believe that we have the Bible.
God didn't make a mistake.
The same Holy Spirit who inspires the writing of the text preserved it.
Preserved it.
That this was supernatural.
That there were wicked men who would love to corrupt it, but God didn't let them.
So I'm not, my trust is not in men.
My trust is in God preserving his word to us.
For these 2,000 years.
Praise God.
So, Enoch, although it's not infallible, inspired, canonical text, you still have Peter and Jude.
You have biblical authors in their biblical text that is inspired reference it as credible.
The Watchers and Nephilim00:02:12
About this situation, about the Watchers and the Nephilim.
Exactly.
Now, they don't reference it about the mermaid situation.
Too bad.
It bums me out.
If only.
So, this could be a portion of Enoch that is untrue.
Or, at least at minimum, it should be viewed by us as a portion of Enoch that could be untrue.
I think Enoch preserved popular oral tradition about many legendary aspects of the world that had been garbled through the generations in similar ways to many of the ancient mythologies.
But Enoch did it because it was closer to some of the primary sources with greater purity than others, which is why I think the New Testament authors cite certain portions of it.
But to be clear, none of us, we kid, but none of us are saying, Enoch should be taken word for word.
A lot of it we would look at and go, Enoch, what was he?
He was on some ayahuasca, right?
So, all that being said, um, one thing that Enoch says about because you always think, okay, so the fallen angels, what happened to them, right?
Okay, well, they tried to start a hybrid race, and that's where you know the Nephilim come from and the giants, and then you know those who engaged in this unholy union were locked in gloomy dungeons.
We know what happened to the fallen angels, right?
Uh, what happened to their offspring, right?
Their posterity, uh, well, first generation, that's the Nephilim.
Think of like Hercules, I think Hercules was real, he's like a demigod, half god, lowercase g, fallen angel.
And and part man, and this kind of idea um and, and great men of renown with great strength and great size, and Gilgamesh totally totally um, and then and then their grandsons, from the Nephthalm on down uh, subsequent generations, would be uh, giants.
So the angelic blood is now being diluted, but they're still of great size, the Rephaim and and having different sizes, different clans, maybe even different uh, skill sets and knowledge, or even supernatural abilities to heal, the Rephaim, healer as well as giant, at least knowledge, at least skill set um, That's certainly plausible.
And then, but then the last thing that doesn't, it's what happened to the fallen angels?
We got it.
What happened to their children, Nephilim, their children's children, and so on, giants?
We got it.
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New Water in Ancient Cities00:15:43
What happened to them, according to Enoch, in this view that Joel claims I believe completely, and actually don't believe at all in any sense of the word, is that in engaging in this sexual relationship with the Watchers, they somehow gave up their soul to either be consumed or to be taken.
So that they were cursed to wander as long lived but soulless sirens.
Sirens.
And that's what Enoch says.
He says the women, the wives of the fallen angels who are the mothers of the Nephilim, grandmothers of the giants, and so on, they became as their cursed sirens.
And the sirens were soulless, which is why they would want to draw men to themselves, men who have souls.
They're soulless.
They have long lives, a longer lifespan than human beings.
But when they die, they're dumb.
That's it.
So they're trying to get Odysseus.
He's lashed to the mask.
They're trying to get his seed.
And they're trying to get Odysseus and certain parts of Odysseus to come over so that they can hope to get back.
That's right.
The soul.
That's right.
The genesis of the succubus myth.
So, my point is that's just one more piece.
And that one is less like everything.
And we're joking, but everything that we said before, the siren part, like location of Atlantis.
Yeah.
Like 100%.
Get over yourself.
The location, I think, is pretty clear.
And the Poseidon being a fallen angel and then Atlas being a Nephilim.
Look, like 100%.
Don't take our word for it.
Pause the video and go just type in Ricot Structure on Google.
Yeah, it's called the Ricot Structure.
And you'll be like, oh, wow, it's about 52 miles east of the ocean, of the Atlantic Ocean.
But clearly, yeah, the shoreline was much closer to it.
And it's about 1,300 feet above sea level, but it sits on top of a band of cliffs that are at least 1,000 feet high that are much closer.
And so a lot of people believe that the continental shelf, well, used to be those cliffs.
And so then when the flood happened and the waters receded, they actually pulled the shoreline further back west.
Yeah.
And so now it's much further away from the sea.
But that part of the Sahara Desert, it actually is somewhat near the sea.
Oh, yeah.
It's incredibly dry.
It's more deserts.
Mauritania is a coastal country.
And even there's more.
Solon recorded the presence of elephants, that Atlantis was famous for elephants.
Mauritania still has elephants.
There's evidence that there are elephants at that time as well, in terms of skeletons.
Yeah, there's drawings and things like that.
The rock colors, there's three specific rock colors that Solon records.
All those colored rocks are.
White, black, and red.
White, black, and red present in the area.
Again, the exact diameter, the exact number of rings of land and water, the exact surrounding of the Atlas Mountains, the name of the first leader.
The outlet to the south.
The outlet to the south.
The timeline fits pretty much everything.
And their timeline, they're going to try to team it up with an ice age catastrophic event with the ice age.
With like 11,000 or 12,000 years.
Yeah, the younger Dryas disaster is what they're going to try to do.
And what we're going to say in terms of time, just so you know, from the biblical timeline, we're saying, you know, 6,6500 years in a young earth creationism.
Idea from, but from Adam to the flood, Noah and the flood is about 1500 years.
So that's about 4,500 years in our past.
So it's still, it's not that crazy.
It's even from a biblical timeline, it's about half.
They're saying something happened 11,000 years ago.
We're saying 45 to 5,000 years ago.
And you say it's ice over a long time.
We're saying it's rushing water, lots of it over a short time.
And that changed even the seacoast, the waters, when they recited, receded when the waters pulled back, that now, okay, that the ocean actually ended up some miles away, but not that fantastic.
No.
You know, not that fantastic.
And it's bone dry because of changes and blah, blah, blah.
It all adds up.
And then one last thing just for the normie, and I would include myself in this, but I remember when I was doing my first research on Atlantis as a 10-year-old boy, which was watching Michael J. Fox Atlantis, the Disney movie.
Serious research.
Amazing.
Very serious.
It's actually one of the best.
Every man on this one is lousy, but that one.
The Quest for Atlantis.
Yeah, it's my city of Atlantis.
That one's good.
Exactly.
But I remember watching that and thinking Atlantis for a long time.
I thought like Atlantis is an underwater city.
That's not the legend.
The legend is it was a powerful city near the water, a port city that was engulfed.
And it was specifically judged by the gods.
And it was quickly.
Yeah, in a day.
And it happened quickly.
So in a day, it's engulfed by water.
It wasn't built initially underwater, it's above water, but in a port kind of location.
And it's judged and particularly judged for being high technology, incredibly advanced, it's affluent and all these different things.
But it's also wicked.
It was judged for the reason that the whole world was judged in the flood, which is that the bloodshed of men knew no bounds.
Yeah, the evil of men had increased to such a degree that God regretted.
But it's not all dry at the current day Rakat structure.
No, it's not.
In fact, there's one more detail here.
There's one more detail because Plato said there were two springs at the center of Atlantis there was a bitter spring and there was a sweet spring.
Now, there's a lot of bitter springs in the area because there's a lot of salt water beneath the sand.
But there's no sweet springs except for at the center of the ricotte structure.
Joel?
Unbelievable.
They got primary water, baby.
Primary water.
They got primary water.
If you don't know about primary water, nobody cares.
You duller.
Nobody cares because it doesn't sound as exciting.
Like if you have a title of an episode, Atlantis, Bigfoot, Nephilim, Giants, Witches.
But primary water is, if you're not primary water maxing, then what are you doing?
What are you doing?
You're wasting your life.
Primary water is the issue.
You should be ashamed.
It is the, it is the Post Millennial.
Great, we're gonna garden the deserts and maybe Mars, that's right.
Well, I was gonna say so.
I mean right now.
The plan to uh, fix the population issue right, quote unquote, the alleged overpopulation yes, in Egypt.
In Egypt, because the Nile is drying up right, and they have to help everybody who's going to to thirst to death is to create an inlet from the Mediterranean Sea that goes into um it's it's far east of the Rakat structure, but into the Sahara desert.
It would be a big lake, like the fifth largest lake in the world by surface area.
And then have people go there when it's been, you know, when the ground's been made more fertile by all of the new water.
But my question is why don't we just revive Atlantis?
Why don't we drill primary water and say, hey, Poseidon, you fallen watcher in Atlas, you demon spirit?
Like this is just ours now.
Up to date, people have thought, scientists have thought that all we have is one, that water's finite and it's scarce and it's running out.
We only have so much and it can never be remade.
And then, second, not only do we have a finite amount of water, but we have old water.
And what I mean by that is the hydrological cycle, this idea of water evaporating, going up, and forming clouds and raining and coming back down, that all of your water is recycled water from thousands of years old.
Even a young earth model, you'd be saying you're drinking 6,000 year old water.
And yeah, you can have your reverse osmosis filter, which I have, and those things matter.
And yes, you can maybe get out some of the chemicals from plastics and human corruption.
and pollution of those kinds of things.
But there's still just rock formations and certain minerals and certain salts that over 6,000 years, if it's only recycled water, a finite amount, and it's the same water there's been since the beginning, and it's flowing over, you know, under the ground and over the ground and over mountains and down the rocks.
Got a rock pee in it.
It's, yeah, it's picking stuff up.
And yes, you do your best to purify it.
But the point is the hydrological cycle tells us two things that there's not enough water.
It's finite, but it's also old water.
Primary water theory suggests that number one, Water is not finite, but it's actually being made deep underneath the ground through pressures and seismic shifts and all these different things that hydrogen, oxygen are actually, that water is actually being made.
It's a renewable resource.
And then two, so it's not finite because we're actually gaining more water every day.
Number two, we don't just have more water than we think, but we have new water.
Instead of water that's 6,000 years old, you have new water that was made just last year.
And if there was.
be a way as technology increased to drill down.
We're not just saying a few hundred feet.
You're going to have to really get down there.
But if you could drill down and be able to actually mine primary water straight up, not only could you, is it a massive amount under surface oceans, we're not talking about puddles, oceans just far down, you could eradicate deserts.
Legitimately, at least conceptually.
Every place in the world could be uh reinforced basically, and as it pertains to human beings, this is just one other application.
Um, but it could be the secret without um medicine that has been corrupt not all medicine, but lots of medicine.
It's just a trade, it's like hey, you know, we'll fix your uh, we'll fix this your cancer problem, but we'll give you this other disease, you know.
Um, instead of that, instead of uh, medicine that maybe heals your sickness there but creates another problem there, it'll fix your heart but but ruin your liver.
Um, this would be uh, what if what if.
The trick to lengthening human lifespans, like Isaiah 65, this is before the final return of Christ because people are still dying, but it says the youth will die at 100, meaning that 100 would be that dude was young.
And what if the way to elongate lifespans is not by corrupt, some of the corrupt medicine that we do today, but actual natural solutions that God baked into the pie, the world that He made?
We just haven't reached it yet.
And what if the drop off?
In lifespans that you see in the biblical narrative, they get shorter and shorter and shorter is because the water is getting older and older and older.
But if we could get new water below the surface, the Joel Webbin Fountain of Youth Theory.
It's the fountain of the year, not in a specific locale, but it's actually worldwide.
And the other thing is, it's the fountain of coo.
I just want somebody to look at me the way Joel Webbin looks at primary water.
You know that I do.
Nothing gets Joel Webbin more amped than primary water.
It's exciting.
We did a whole episode for about an hour and a half on primary water.
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That's all I'll say.
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Well, no, it is compelling, though, that you had this.
It's wild.
This is so wild.
Antediluvian city that's just at this point, it's just confirmed.
I have literally zeroed down.
It's a ricot structure.
That is Atlanta.
Yes.
And it was a pre flood society ruled by a Nephilim.
And they had maybe a primary water spring at the center.
Right.
And they all lived for a very long time.
Right.
So I don't know.
That's it.
Look, there really could be something to it.
You say, I don't know.
You do know.
Well, I say, I say, I don't know in the sense of like, so of course I know.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Of course you do.
It's like when someone says, yeah, no, it means no.
Yeah, no.
When someone says, no, yeah, it means no, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a yes.
That's right.
Bro, we're so back.
We've never been more so back right now because we just figured out where Atlantis is, the secret to lengthening lifespans and beautifying the earth.
And also a kingdom that's going to be reclaimed by Christendom.
And it's going to be named in the name of God.
With its former glory, but better and holy.
Yes.
New Numenor.
New Numenor is not going to fall.
New Numenor.
It's not going to be a calibre.
It's like New York.
New Numenor.
Numenor, Numenor.
Yeah, except like and we're understanding in all this, we were able to understand Atlantis.
Primary water, a little bit of hollow earth theory, the rebeautification of the world, getting lifespans lengthened again with a fulfillment of Isaiah 65, understanding Nephilim, understanding giants.
And we arrived at a perfect biblical understanding of mermaids.
And can I add one more thing?
Oh, yeah.
I was just going to say.
You guys didn't even appreciate the joke.
I said, and we got married.
We figured mermaids out, allegedly.
I was busy thinking about what I was going to say instead of listening.
So I'm sorry.
I want to also just say and posit that.
Atlantis is not the only such city in the ancient world.
Were you about to say the same thing?
I was literally about to say the same thing.
Well, it's because we are the same person.
You're wearing the same jacket, same shirt.
It's honestly a little uncomfortable.
I feel like I should sit in between you just because I'm a riz.
A lot of people think that we're brothers too, which we are in Christ.
But we're not.
But I do think if you look at the record, you can go all around the world and you're going to find, especially antediluvian, in my view.
Before the sun.
As well as you'll find other echoes throughout history after that.
But this isn't a tale that just happened there in the Sahara and Atlantis.
This happened in cities and empires all around the world.
In fact, it's one of the reasons that I so appreciate Andy Wilson's Ashtown Burial series, which is a fictional story, but it includes many of these casts of characters in his story.
He calls them trans mortals, but he brings in many of these ancient figures like Nimrod, Gilgamesh.
Gilgamesh, my bad.
He brings these in and tells the story of everything from the Aztecs to the ancient Atlanteans and beyond that.
Many places in history, just like we talked about in our patron exclusive, the ayahuasca psychedelics episode.
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And what we're seeing there is that human beings in this time period, and it still happens in many senses, but they were communing with ancient evil powers, spiritual powers, and they were doing real things on earth with that power in ruling and enslaving worlds and empires, but they were fallen and wicked empires.
Right.
Like the Empire of Babylon and Assyria and Egypt.
Right.
These are not.
Good men, these are wicked men, and we see partly not just the sin of it's not just the flesh, it's also the devil.
Yes, morally depraved in terms of human nature having fallen, but also demonic influence, morally depraved on the moral level, depraved.
Uh, but in terms of um, innovation, technology, advancement, sophistication, these things, it's not just like oh wow.
Um, because sometimes you say it in a way that's uh, it's patronizing when you're speaking of the ancients and those who came before us.
Look at them, these people figured out uh the wheel.
Wow, aqueducts!
Wow, they were very developed.
Oh, you made a bow and arrow, but yeah.
But when we say, when we say developed, and this is what I think, like somebody like um, uh, Graham, what's his name, Graham Hancock, in ancient or I think he gets apocalypse.
Oh, yeah, he cannot help but um, uh, but be just enough wrong to ensure that he can keep rejecting the Bible.
He hates Christian because he hates Christian, he needs Jesus, but in every so so he he'll be so consistent and then he forces himself to be inconsistent.
To deny Christ.
Yeah, he doesn't think the way.
But other than that, in every other instance, he's right.
And one of the things that, I mean, he's been scorned and mocked about is that he believes that previous civilization, he's not just saying, oh, there were people a long time ago.
What makes him unique, right?
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Because everybody says that.
What makes him unique is he's saying too many things, as I understand it, that there were people a long time ago and that some of these people, ancient, even further back.
So there were people hundreds of years back who actually were primitive, but then there were people thousands of years back and they actually get, As you go further back, they get more sophisticated.
In his view, this is like 20,000 years.
Yes.
And in our view, we would be saying what he says is more primitive in the more recent past, we would put that at 2,000 years, 3,000 years.
And then what he says is very sophisticated at 20,000 years, we would put that more at like 5,000 years before the flood.
And we'd say because of fallen angels giving knowledge and giving that they were highly sophisticated, incredible technology.
So these civilizations, like Atlantis, like, you know, and even after the flood, like Babel and, you know, these guys.
And Yanaguni, Yanaguni, Tronas.
Incredibly sophisticated, but lasting before the flood, not just sophisticated, but also people think we have 8 billion people, give or take, right now on the planet.
There are some guys who have put, and I think this is absolutely plausible, guys who have put the total world population at the time of the flood at 11 billion.
Wow.
And I'm not saying it has to be that, but when you think of elongated lifespans, when you think Adam lived over 900 years, how many, you know, he had Cain, he had Abel, he had Seth.
And the Bible says, and then Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters.
Now you think, well, maybe they had another two or three kids or two or 300 with that kind of lifespan, that kind of fertility.
Till the matching of remembering birthdays.
Right.
And that's just one generation.
And then all of them, how many kids do they have?
And they're all living this long.
Nobody's dying or very few are dying.
And so it's absolutely possible that you have billions, maybe not that exact, but you could have hundreds of millions, maybe a couple billion on the planet at that time, but then also.
Influenced and taught and tutelaged by fallen angels with their knowledge, you have Atlantis could have been incredible.
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Even if you take away the fallen angels, you have Adam, who wasn't always fallen, right?
He actually experienced.
Righteousness and holiness in a city of 48 hours.
Well, according to Dante, what is it, like seven minutes or something?
Some guys say it fell on the eighth day.
Yeah, but Milton gave them quite a while.
But anyway, the point is, he was probably quite intelligent.
He probably understood nature very, very well.
And so even if you take away the fallen angel aspect of it, I think that even the line of Seth was probably highly advanced.
I think that Noah and his capability of building that ark.
Of course, he was helped along by God, but also he built the ark, which is an astonishing feat given that time.
So I think the conclusion that pre-flood, right before the flood, human society was very large and was very advanced is unavoidable.
And then after that, we no longer see quite that skyrocket of advancement because we don't have any covenant head that was innocent at one time.
And we have all of that technology lost.
They're having to restart all over again.
And then you also have the demons now that are being much more prohibitive.
Like they're wanting to kill.
They're wanting to kill and take away the image of God.
They're not as much wanting to share gifts that will cause flourishing, at least not for as long a time, I think.
That's very speculative.
But to me, it seems like an almost unavoidable conclusion, at least in terms of antediluvian society being very advanced right before the flood comes.
But you do still have some societies post-flood.
Like Babel, that are still advanced, technologically advanced.
But so it's not that it all happens before the flood.
But what happened before the flood, I think, is if we could see the world before the flood, you'd be seeing giants, dragons, as far as we know, the pyramids.
There could have been electricity, technologically advanced civilization on some level.
Incredible.
And Egyptians watching like light shows on large cities.
Yeah.
Interesting.
And with the possibility of technologies that are capable of moving 200 ton. blocks hundreds of miles up thousands of feet these these are the kinds of things that we we can guess but we can't really fathom right giants answers part of that question like what if they were just big people in terms of megaliths um but also i don't think it was just big people and i think it was less than that no i'm a giant fan it was insane and i think some of these giants were 30 as you'll have to watch our giant episode and we'll account for why we think this but i think some of these giants were 30,
40, 50, even 60 feet tall but um it's also um it's it's the technology we think they were um incredibly advanced to be able to I saw this thing, this insane video one time.
And I can't remember the name of the pyramid, but it's one of the lesser pyramids in Egypt that's far away from the Great Pyramid, more into the desert.
And this is somewhat recent, like in the last couple of decades.
They found a tunnel that went down underneath it and they got in there and they found this massive room.
It was a great room with pillars holding it up that was just lined all the way with granite bowls, like big bowls.
The name escapes me of what a big bowl is.
Basin.
Basin, I guess.
Base one of those tall ones, you know bowls They're like now you'd turn it on a on a like a potter's wheel and you'd shoot it up or whatever anyway, these are made of granite pit Go ahead, but so that's already impressive that they have these type of bowls made of granite granite, but then also they measured how flat the tops were the top rim Which you know,
there's about a three inch wide Rim on the top and it was it was perfectly flat in reference to itself Within like 0.02 microns, we can't do that today, and I'm this isn't just one of them.
And when you say we can't do it today, you're not just talking about by hand, you mean with machines.
We don't have the precision, we can't guarantee a tolerance within 0.02 microns.
We can't do that.
Wow, maybe if you have the highest quality uh CNC machine in the world, but you still it's really hard to do with granite because of its crystalline structure, it's not as predictable.
So, these Ben used to be an engineer, yeah, I did.
I was an engineer by trade.
These people have so he can say those things if you hear me saying it, you can just say.
BS.
But it then means one of us saw it on Twitter.
But these people had an unbelievable ability to machine stone in a way that not only rivals, but usually exceeds our capability of machining aluminum today.
Wow.
That's astonishing.
That's almost more impressive to me than the pyramid that they were underneath.
That sounds like a fallen angel father.
That's what I'm saying.
Told you how to do something.
Like some kind of great skill set that was passed along with a technology that we can't.
That we can't imagine.
Right.
The fallen angel father, but also you're all right because I don't want to discount your other, like, think 900 years to perfect your craft.
Right.
You're Adam.
Right.
And you knew the world before it was fallen.
Right.
I mean, that, like, Adam, people think of Adam as like a great grandpa who's walking around.
Like, Adam was a king.
Yeah.
I mean, he would have, everybody comes from him.
So he's related to everybody.
So he's got great, great, great, great grandchildren, but it's not just like, hey, great, great grandpa.
It's King Adam.
They bow if they get to see Adam.
So cool.
Because he's walked with God.
It's amazing to think of that antediluvian world with giants and dragons and maybe mermaids.
It's so different that.
Probably mermaids, but honestly, let's be honest, they're fairies.
And you'll have to watch the fairies.
Mermaids in some way.
Yeah.
I think mermaids would be in the category of Bigfoot.
Yeah.
Like a fairy type thing.
That's where I would lean.
I think that mermaids are real.
Which is a particular kind of demon.
An elemental spirit kind of i'm calling them element angels or element angels, i'm just gonna, you're just gonna.
No no, like elemental, calling them elemental angels, like in a class of angelic being that is focused on the operations of nature.
Right, boom would have been a class right, they're kind of preternatural.
They have one foot in, one foot out of the scene.
Realm, which episode did we hit that on too?
I think our angels episode, but then also our fairy fairies.
We hit it real hard.
Yeah yeah, I was gonna eat, and then we dabbled in the Bigfoot episode.
I think it's worth noting that in first thing is First Peter.
Peter, like the Antediluvian world is so different.
Peter calls it the world that then was.
Yeah.
It was a, because the flood was not just a catastrophe.
The flood was a decreation event followed by a recreation event.
Right.
It is such a catastrophic event.
It was a different world that existed at that time.
Right.
Wow.
Right.
The baptism of the world.
All right.
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And three, every single quarter, right?
So this is Q2 of 2024, the year of our Lord.
But every quarter on Fridays at 4 p.m. Central Time, we have on both YouTube and Twitter and all our platforms, the Friday special.
And so for Q2, we're doing Brian and Ben, Haunted Cosmos, 10 episodes.
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Can I promise it'll be Atlantis interesting?
I can't.
It's tough to beat that.
I mean, that's just tough to beat.
It's the best time ever.
It's whatever it is.
It'll be great.
It's kind of cheating that Haunted Cosmos, like when this comes out in April.
It'll be April through June.
Right around.
So we're going to be dropping season three of Haunted Cosmos, which are 10 episode seasons.
And we're opening with things like Missing 411, Fairies, Ocean Mysteries 2.0.
We're actually, I'm going to say it right now.
We're doing a whole episode in season three on different Atlantis type myths.
That's right.
From around the world to see just how common of a trope this really is.
Right.
And potentially how widespread this same situation was.
So it's kind of cheating for other topics to try and be as interesting.
We don't even have to be that interesting, me and Ben, because we're talking about Atlantis.
It's the greatest topic in the world.
Yeah.
Like, and the Bermuda Triangle.
Like, things every young eight year old boy is watching those shows on Discovery Channel or the Travel Channel.
And they're like, the Bermuda Triangle is going to be a big problem in my life.
I can't believe they just solved it.
Or they're like, no one's found Atlantis yet.
I'm going to be the one to find Atlantis.
That's right.
And I did.
And we did.
I found it.
True, come true.
I didn't take it from another YouTube.
The royal you that includes me.
You did take it.
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