Pastor Joel Webbin critiques modern culture and the evangelical church for encouraging female assertiveness while suppressing male leadership, citing statistics that women initiate 70% of divorces. He argues that biblical patriarchy requires men as protectors in the home, church, and state, warning that unchecked female sin leads to societal disaster. Webbin calls for a return to traditional gender roles where husbands lead and pastors courageously correct wives, asserting this restoration is essential for national and spiritual health before promoting his upcoming conference. [Automatically generated summary]
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Five Star Review Request00:06:40
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All right, welcome back to another live QA with yours truly, Pastor Joel Webbin with Right Response Ministries.
We do this every Monday at 12 p.m. Central Time.
Every Monday, 12 p.m. Central Time.
I've got at least three or four questions that I'm going to be taking today.
Questions that you guys got in ahead of time, feel free to write in some questions in the comment section as we're going.
If it's a question that I think I could address, that I could do well, that would be helpful for multiple people, then I'll do my best to get to it.
But some of you guys wrote in early, and so I've got three or four questions that Nathan has lined up for me that I think are great questions.
Some of them are questions that you guys have asked multiple weeks in a row that I have not been able to get to, but by God's grace, I'm going to get to them today.
Now, before we get started, I've got to make an important announcement.
This is October 31st.
Reformation Day.
It's Halloween.
Nope, it's Reformation Day.
So let's go ahead and throw up this announcement about our conference.
It's not only Reformation Day, it's also register for our conference now day.
Okay, so this is the Theonomy and Post Millennialism Conference.
It's happening May 5th, 6th, and 7th.
That's a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, the year of our Lord 2023.
We've got a brand new speaker.
You guys are probably already aware that you've got me, Dr. James White, Dr. Joe Boot, Dr. Gary DeMar, but we've now added Dale Partridge.
He's agreed to come and speak at our conference.
So we have five.
Renowned, well known, gifted, highly educated individuals who are speaking.
Well, we've got four, and then you've also got me.
So, we've got four highly educated, renowned speakers at this conference, plus myself.
That's one of the ways to get yourself invited, by the way.
If you're wondering, how can I get on the conference circuit?
What you need to do is basically throw your own conference and then work your way into the speaking schedule.
That's how you get on the conference circuit.
So, anyways, This is happening today's the last day.
If you want to register at our original early bird discounted rate, it's a hundred dollars.
We actually had somebody just write in saying, You know, does a hundred dollars include a spouse?
And we said, No, that's just for one adult.
And he said, Well, are there any discounts at all?
And so, you know what?
I'm gonna make you a deal.
Here's the discount we are going to charge the same thing that John MacArthur charges for a shepherd's conference, which is about half a grand, $500.
But today, it's 80% off, a hundred dollars.
There's an 80% discount.
Guys, the reality is this look, $100 for an adult to come to a three day conference with about a dozen sessions, two live panels with all the guys taking questions from the audience Friday night and Saturday night, a catered barbecue dinner included in your registration fee.
To do all of that for $100 with James White and Gary DeMar and Joe Boot and Dale Partridge, that is the discounted rate.
And it's not just slightly discounted, you're not going to find another conference like that.
If you go to Fight Laugh Feast, which I went to, it was great.
Gabriel Wrench, one of the guys with Cross Politic, with Fight Laugh Feast, he's on our board with Right Response.
Great guy, great conference, fantastic, but it's about $250.
And so we are charging less than half.
We are charging 40% of what Fight Laugh Feast charges.
ReformCon, another awesome conference and really affordable, cheaper than Fight Laugh Feast.
And that's Jeff Durbin, James White, those guys have been putting this conference on for a few years now.
But still, even for them, I think I can't remember the exact number, but I think it's about 180 bucks, or it might be even 230 or something like that.
You know, if you register later, I think it's in the 200s.
And so this is $100, but today is the last day.
Starting tomorrow, November 1st, tomorrow, the rate is going to go up to $130.
So if you want to save $30, you can register today.
I strongly encourage you guys to register today.
Big kids, I can't call them teenagers because technically that starts with 13.
So these are big kids slash teenagers, that's 11 year olds through 17 year olds is $50.
And then every child, 10 and under, is free.
So if you got little kids, They're free.
It's just you and your spouse.
If you want a family discount, the family discount is $200 for you and your spouse and all your little kids to attend this conference.
That is the family discount.
And that is incredibly, incredibly cheap by comparison to other conferences of a similar, comparable caliber.
All right.
So it's $200 if you want to bring the whole family.
If you've got a few teenagers, then it may be $250 or $300 if you have two teenagers that are going to come with you and your spouse.
But you can do all that today.
Starting tomorrow, again, adults, it's going to go from $100.
To $130.
From $100 to $130.
The big kids at $50, that'll stay the same.
So 11 year olds through 17 year olds will still be $50, and children will still be free.
But adults will go from $100 to $130.
This conference is going to be phenomenal.
I strongly encourage you guys to attend.
If you're anywhere in the nation remotely close, I encourage you to try to attend.
I know that some of you guys are looking at attending from quite a distance.
We've got people coming from New York, people coming from California.
I know that travel costs money, especially costs money thanks to President Joe Biden and his inflation.
But again, what we're trying to do to serve you to the best of our ability is I can't do anything about your plane flight and the cost of airfare.
I can't do much about hotels, but what I can do is keep the conference cheap.
And so I am encouraging one last time, encouraging you to register at this very affordable price $100 for an adult.
Register today at midnight Central Time.
Midnight Central Time, boom, it's $130.
All right, so you have a few hours left.
Celebrate Reformation Day by registering to come to the Post Millennial Theonomy Conference with Joe Boot, James White, Gary DeMar, Dale Partridge, and yours truly.
All right, let's go ahead and hop into it.
This is what I want to do.
So I've titled this video The Sin of Women.
The Sin of Women.
So I want to start with this concept, this topic, and then we'll move on and take a few questions.
All right, that's all I'm going to do for announcements in this video.
So that I have time to get to some of the questions.
But this is what I want to read, all right?
Addressing Physical Abuse Claims00:16:24
These are some quotes from various articles and different studies giving some statistics in regards to divorce, particularly divorce in America, okay?
Gazelle, I don't even know how to say her name.
I am not up on culture and pop stars and stuff like that.
I'm up on politics, I'm up on culture in terms of things that really matter.
But if you ask me about.
I'm trying to think of one celebrity that I could name.
I don't know.
If you ask me about Jessica Alba, I really can't even picture her face.
I don't even know who that is.
I just remember the name, you know, or some kind of star.
I don't really know.
Okay.
So I'm certain that I'm pronouncing this incorrectly, but here we go.
Giselle Bunchen.
It's probably German.
It's Reformation Day.
The least I could do is get a German name right, but I can't.
I just can't.
I'm sorry.
So, anyways, you'll know this other name.
Gazelle something something and Tom Brady are over.
Okay, so this is Tom Brady's wife.
They're done.
Their marriage is over.
TMZ Sports has learned that the supermodel just filed for divorce from the NFL superstar.
That's the way it usually goes.
The woman, in the vast majority of cases, is usually the one who initiates divorce.
That's what we currently have going on in the United States of America when it comes to divorce.
More often than not, it is the woman who initiates divorce.
Okay?
Now, a study led by the American Sociological Association determined that nearly 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
And the percentage of college educated American women who initiate divorce is.
Is even higher, hovering around 90%.
So if you have a college educated woman who is married and that marriage ends in divorce, there's a 9 out of 10 chance that she's the one who initiated it, not her husband.
Now, in attempting to explain the disproportionate amount of divorces that are initiated by women, many in error, they're wrong, but many would respond by saying, well, that's because men are physically stronger and the women have to make use of their legal options for divorce because they are almost always the abused.
Party, however, this is not statistically true, although that does happen in particular instances, and it is an egregious sin when a man physically abuses his wife, that is absolutely a heinous sin.
However, this may happen, but this is not the statistical norm.
A 2006 study of physical and physiological aggression revealed instances of minor aggression initiated by men in 23.3 percent of cases.
So, minor aggression.
Initiated by men in 23.3% of the cases, while there were instances of minor aggression initiated by women in 33.8% of the cases.
That's almost a 50% increase.
All right, so there's about three women for every two men that initiate.
Now we're talking about abuse in minor aggression cases of abuse.
There are three women who initiate.
Output transcript Out that minor aggression abuse, they're the ones who acted out three for every two men.
Okay, let's keep reading.
Women also led the men in cases of severe aggression.
So, with physical abuse in cases of severe aggression, women actually still led the men in these cases, with male initiated aggression, severe aggression at 8.4% of the cases, and female initiated aggression.
In 11.5% of the cases.
When we think of abuse, again, men can be abusive.
Certainly, men are sinners.
But the reality is that statistically, if there's a marriage between a man and a woman, and one of those two married individuals punches the other person in the face, it is more likely to be the wife than the husband.
It's more likely to be the wife than it is the husband.
In relationships where violence was non mutual, almost 70% of the violence was perpetrated by the women.
In other words, in almost seven out of ten cases of mutual violence, the batterer was a female.
Now, women who participated in mutually violent behavior with their male partners were more likely to display a pattern of repeated violence than men.
Men's violence was much more likely to be isolated, a one time event where the man lost his temper, he forfeited self control, and he sinned against God and his wife and his children egregiously.
It is a serious sin.
Okay, I'm not minimizing physical abuse from men.
However, it more often than not comes from women at the minor level and at the severe level.
At any form of physical abuse, whether it be minor or severe, it is a three to two ratio of women with minor aggression in the realm of physical abuse, and it's still a higher statistic of women with severe, severe aggression and abuse, a higher statistic of women who initiate than men.
In mutual cases where there's abuse on both sides, it is more often seven out of ten times the woman who initiated it.
And when abuse is repetitive, when it continues, it's more than just one isolated event.
Again, it is much more likely to be women.
If a man is abusive, there is a likelihood that it's a one off event.
Wrong, immoral, wicked, heinous, yes, but very likely to be an isolated event.
I shouldn't say very likely.
Right there, I need to be more careful.
When this happens and it is an isolated event, it is more likely that it is a man with an isolated event of physical abuse than a woman.
Women are more likely, I can say, more likely to repeat.
Physical aggression and physical abuse against their husbands than men are against their wives.
All right, so what have we learned?
What we learned is that women are sinners.
Women are sinners.
Now, let me be clear.
Do I, Pastor Joel Webbin with Right Response Ministries, believe that women are inherently more sinful than men?
Yes, no, no, I don't.
I don't believe that women are more inherently sinful, that just by virtue of just biologically being a female.
That you have a higher propensity or a greater degree of immorality than your male counterpart.
No, I don't believe that women are inherently more sinful than men.
This is what I believe.
I believe that with any individual, whether it be an isolated individual person or whether it be a group of people, a group of individuals, that people, the nature of sin and the way that it works in the world, when sin goes unchecked,
When sin goes unchecked, without accountability with, when sin goes on without recourse, without judgment, without the necessary and and biblical consequences that God prescribes in his word, when any sin goes unchecked, it's going to grow, it's going to grow, it's going to occur again and again and again.
So do I believe that women are inherently more sinful than men?
No, but do I believe that at this juncture, at this particular cultural moment especially, especially in the West, and especially, even more so in the United States Of America, do I believe That women are sinning at a higher degree and a higher frequency than men in the realm of marriage?
and we could probably argue other arenas as well, but in the realm of marriage, particularly as it pertains to abuse and divorce.
Yes, yes, that's what the statistics bear.
Women are sinning worse, in worse ways, and with a higher frequency than men.
It is not because women are inherently more sinful than men, but it is because women, for decades now in the West, and particularly the United States of America, Their sin has gone on unchecked.
Unchecked.
So they're not naturally more sinful than men.
But any sin that's not rebuked, that's not corrected, that doesn't receive the necessary consequences for that sin, any sin that is not ultimately addressed and held accountable is the sin that will continue and often the sin that will grow.
And sadly, as it pertains to our culture in the West today, for the last several decades, but in recent history in the West, in Western societies, women, the sin of women has been by and large held far less accountable than the sin of men.
You know, that guys like Michael Foster, who's a friend of mine, and other guys like Brian Sauvay and Eric Kahn, any guy who does anything on biblical manhood, I've said it myself.
If you're wanting to know, if you're a young man and you're aspiring to biblical patriarchy and you want to embody biblical traits of masculinity and you're wondering what those are and what you should pursue, what actions you should take, one of the best things that you can find is simply picking up the most pagan, worldly magazine you can imagine and following every step and every trait that they esteem and that they encourage, but just make sure that the magazine you're reading is a magazine written for women.
And not men.
If you find a worldly magazine for women, it's going to say, hey, you know, you should take initiative.
You should take responsibility.
You should exude more confidence.
You should do this.
You should do that.
You should be aggressive, be aggressive.
You know, like those are the kinds of things that are constantly being touted and encouraged and esteemed so long as these traits are found in women.
And some of the worst material that you could read, sadly, would be material about biblical masculinity that comes from the evangelical church.
Even the evangelical church, there is so much of the pagan worldly culture that is seeped into the American evangelical church.
It is tragic.
It is absolutely tragic.
I mean, you'll find it even at the youngest ages in a children's ministry at the church, which our church doesn't have a children's ministry.
We have church, and children go to church with their moms and dads.
But for those churches that do have children's ministries and they're directing little girls in a certain way and directing little boys in a certain way, Most of the direction that they provide when it comes to young boys is trying to encourage them to be gentle, trying to encourage them to be meek, right?
Meek and lowly, right?
Gentle and lowly.
These are the kinds of books that sell, right?
Where you emphasize certain character traits of Jesus that are true, that are biblically mentioned.
They are true, but it's incomplete.
Jesus is lowly and gentle.
He is.
But that's not all he is.
Jesus is the lamb who was slain.
For the sins of the world.
But Jesus is also the lion of the tribe of Judah.
Jesus came, John 3 17.
He did not come to condemn the world, but to save the world.
But Jesus is also going to come again.
And he who rules the nations with an iron scepter, all knees will bow, all tongues will confess.
And as Matthew Henry, the late great Puritan, once said, every knee that will not bow will break.
And why will it break?
Because Jesus is going to take his iron scepter and break their kneecaps.
That's why.
That every person will bow to King Jesus.
He is lowly and gentle.
He is meek and mild.
He is a lamb, but he is also a lion.
He is fierce.
John chapter 2 He fashions a whip braided with cords to drive the money changers out of his father's house because zeal for his father's house consumes him.
Jesus was a man, he was a man.
He was a masculine man.
And to say anything otherwise is to twist the person.
And the work of Jesus and defy the clear scriptural teachings.
That's just false.
It's absolutely false.
So, our culture and sadly, even our churches, many of them encourage men to be docile from a very young age.
Three year old, four year old boys who are being boys are emotionally and metaphorically castrated by the church.
So, the church would object with literal castration, with trying to trans kids, right?
Trying to mutilate children with the whole transgender insanity.
The church would object to.
Physical castration of young boys, but the church itself is complicit and engaged in spiritual and emotional castration of young boys, saying, Oh, well, a boy, if he really wants to be a man, he wants to be godly, these are the traits.
He needs to be docile, he needs to be quiet, he needs to be gentle.
You know the irony?
The irony with that?
The Bible literally says when it comes to a woman, what is beautiful in the sight of God is not outward beauty that's imperishable, although a woman should see.
To outwardly be beautiful, and a man outwardly should seek to be strong.
That's not, just for the record, that's not shallow.
There is a way of overstepping the bounds where you step into the realm of sinful vanity.
But for women to wear dresses is a good thing.
My wife wears lots of dresses.
She dresses like a woman.
My wife takes time to do her hair.
My wife takes time to put on makeup.
She doesn't do it every day, she doesn't do it for every occasion, but my wife is seeking to be feminine.
Inside and outside.
And men, likewise, in terms of strength, we want masculine spiritual strength.
We want emotional resolve, but we also want physical strength.
Why?
Why should a man care about that?
We've gone to such great lengths in the soft, narrow, complementarian, squishy, effeminate church world to say that, well, a man's physical strength doesn't say anything about biblical masculinity.
Yes, it does.
Yes, it does.
There is some value.
Paul doesn't say, You know, spiritual training is of immense value and physical training is of no value.
No, he says physical training is of less value than spiritual training, but it's still of some value.
And when we think of what it means to be a man, two of the chief responsibilities of a man are to provide and protect, provide and protect.
And in our world, in our culture, in our societies that are increasingly growing in hostility, even physical, literal hostility, for a man to be in shape, for a man to have some kind of training, some preparation, owning a gun.
Those kinds of things, but then also physical training to be able to subdue and take down an intruder in the home if there's some kind of precarious scenario where he can't get to his gun for whatever reason.
All of that falls in line with a man's responsibility and God given duty to provide and protect.
So a man's not working out so that he can flex in his pictures on Instagram, that's vanity.
But for a man to be in shape and to have not just emotional and spiritual and intellectual strength, but actually physical prowess and physical strength.
Is a realm, it is a portion of biblical God honoring masculinity because it serves a man in his role to provide and protect, to provide and protect.
And so, my whole point in all this is again to say women are not inherently more sinful than men, but what happens in a culture and a society, and even in the American church, when the sin of women goes unchecked for decades?
The Quiet Spirit Principle00:08:49
And when women are encouraged, even by pastors, to be more aggressive, more assertive, and little boys from the earliest age you can imagine are encouraged and even rebuked for any initiative, any sense of confidence, they're encouraged and commanded in many cases to be more gentle, more docile, there's a problem.
Again, back to this 1 Peter chapter 3, it says that women should have imperishable beauty of the heart.
So, You know, the outward beauty matters and outward strength for a man matters.
Physical beauty and physical strength for women and men, respectively, does matter.
That is, there is a biblical category for that.
It is of infinite value, the most value, no, but it is of some value.
We're not Gnostics, right?
The Apostle Paul doesn't say the physical is of no value.
No, he says this is of more value, but the physical is still of some value.
So there needs to be an attempt, I believe, with.
Godly women who fear the Lord and love their husbands, some measure of attempt to look feminine in physical, actual, literal ways, and men likewise to be strong as protectors to focus on that in physical, actual, literal ways.
But 1 Peter 3 goes on to say that the beauty that is imperishable, that doesn't fade with age, that never goes away, that is most pleasing to the Lord is the inward beauty, not outward, but inward beauty of the heart.
And then 1 Peter 3 specifies even further by saying that this is a Quiet and gentle spirit.
Stop right there.
Think about that for a moment.
A gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.
Precious in the sight of God when God finds it, a gentle and quiet spirit.
But when God finds it in who is the question?
When he finds it in women, not men.
That doesn't mean that men are not commanded to be gentle in any regard.
Jesus was gentle.
Men are commanded to be gentle.
But when we're speaking of what should most clearly characterize the ethos of a person, it is in the case of women, not men, but in the case of women, that their character traits are culminated and climaxed in the two words of gentleness and a quiet spirit.
Men should possess some measure of gentleness.
All people, both men and women, the scripture says, should be slow to speak and quick to listen.
Will the proverbs say that when words are many, sin is not absent?
Right?
So every man, as he seeks to be wise and not a fool, will have some measure of quietness about him a quietness that proceeds from wisdom, not insecurity, not effeminacy.
But only in the case of women, not men, but in the case of women, are these two character traits rising to the very Top of the list that a woman should be embodying, a woman should be defined, the lion's share of who she is should be gentle and a quiet spirit.
Gentle and a quiet spirit.
Now, if you take that in mind, and then you just listen, just listen to the world and the ways that it disciples women, and sadly, again, listen to the American Evangelical Church and the advice given by pastors to women.
How often are women told, you probably need to shut up a little bit?
You need to be quiet.
You're speaking about things that you do not know.
This is not your place.
The Bible says in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
You need to be silent.
1 Timothy chapter 2, verses 9 through 15, a woman must learn in quietness and full submission.
I do not permit a woman to teach or have any authority over a man.
That is not one prohibition, but two.
It is not a woman can't teach with authority.
No, she cannot teach or exercise authority over a man.
These are the clear teachings of Scripture.
1 Peter 3 goes on to say that women should follow the example of the great godly matriarch Sarah, who called her husband Abraham her Lord.
Lowercase L, but Lord, meaning sir or sire.
She called Abraham her Lord.
And women, godly women, are commanded in 1 Peter chapter 3 that they should follow her in her example.
Have you ever stopped and thought for a moment?
I think I may have said this recently.
On one of my videos, but just in case I didn't, I want to make sure I get it out there.
Have you ever thought about the fact that Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords?
Right?
And when we think about Jesus ruling and reigning, but not just an ethereal spiritual rule and reign in heaven exclusively, but that he's ruling and reigning at the right hand of God the Father Almighty who is in heaven, but his rule and reign, his kingdom, is in heaven and on earth.
Right?
The last thing that Jesus says before issuing the Great Commission in Matthew chapter 28 all authority.
In heaven and on earth has been given to me, therefore, go and disciple the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and teach them my law.
Proclaim gospel, conversion, baptism, but also teach law the first use of the law that reveals the necessity for salvation because it reveals the holiness of God and the sinfulness of man.
But also, the third use of the law that the law is a lamp unto my feet, that we actually, as Christians, are commanded to obey, not to merit salvation.
But as a response of gratitude and obedience for the free salvation we have in Christ Jesus, because obedience to God's law in this world actually matters.
It actually matters.
Jesus, before giving this great commission, including everything that I've just said, he prefaces it by saying, Listen up, guys.
And the reason why you should listen up is because I'm in charge.
And my in chargeness, my authority, my kingliness is not just an ethereal, spiritual, kingly rule in heaven, but I have all authority on earth as it is in heaven.
So, when the Bible says, back to my original point, when the Bible says that Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, who are those other kings?
Have you ever stopped and thought about that?
Who are these other lords?
Jesus is the capital K King of lowercase kings and the capital L Lord of lowercase l lords.
Is Jesus King of only exclusively heavenly kings?
And what would those heavenly kings be?
And is Jesus only the Lord of Heavenly lords?
Or when Jesus says that he's king of kings and lord of lords, does that include perhaps that Jesus is king of earthly kings and earthly lords?
And if you ever stop and wonder just for a moment if it does include earthly kings and lords, who are some of these earthly kings and lords?
Well, I'll give you an idea.
Some of these earthly lords are called husbands.
All the way back to 1 Peter chapter 3, Sarah called her husband Abraham husbands.
Her Lord.
Lowercase L, but Lord.
He was Lord of their marriage, Lord of their home.
He is the head of his wife and the head of their children, the head of their household.
In their household, in their home, Abraham was a Lord.
Not the Lord, not capital L Lord, but a Lord.
And so when the Bible says that Jesus is Lord of Lords, what the Bible is saying is this that the head of every wife is her husband, and the head of every man is Christ.
That a man is a Lord of his home, but there is a Lord above all Lords, a Lord of Lords, who is.
Christ Jesus, that Christ is the ultimate capital L Lord of every marriage and every home, because he is Lord of lords, meaning that that man, that human man in the home, that husband, that father, he is also a Lord.
He is a lesser Lord underneath the ultimate Lord who is Christ, but he is a Lord nonetheless.
Where is this preaching?
That's my question.
In the American church, in the American evangelical church over the last 30, 40 years, probably more, where is this preaching?
Biblical Roles and Preaching00:15:40
Where are women encouraged not to speak in church because it's shameful?
Where are women encouraged to cover their head in accordance with 1 Corinthians 11 as they worship on the Lord's Day with the gathering of the saints?
Where are women encouraged to embody many godly characteristics, but especially to be defined in their life and their character by gentleness and a quiet spirit?
Where are women reminded that they are not to have any authority over a man?
Not to exercise authority over a man or to teach a man, but that they should learn in quietness and full submission.
Here's another one.
How many sermons have you heard lately that say that women, in accordance with Genesis chapter 3, have a higher propensity of being deceived than men?
No, Joel, that's not what that text means.
That's not, that can't be.
No.
Yes.
Yes.
I do believe that Genesis chapter 3, that what we see in the case of Eve is that she and all her offspring, all her daughters, have a higher propensity of being deceived than men do.
And this is one of the reasons why what we find again and again in the New Testament when it comes to false prophets and false teachers is that the primary audience that they actually deceive and lead astray are weak willed women.
Women, they creep into women's households.
They lead astray women.
Now, listen, here's the deal.
Women are gifted, immensely gifted by God, endowed with certain giftings that men do not possess.
We need each other.
Absolutely.
But when you put a creature designed by the Creator with certain attributes and certain roles into a context that it's not suited for, Disaster is the result.
Disaster is the result.
Take a fish.
If you just want to illustrate this principle, you want to test it and see what may.
I don't know, Joel, you sound a bit extreme.
Then go ahead, test the theory.
Take a pet goldfish out of its bowl and throw it up in the air outside and see how it fares.
See how well it does.
Birds do great up in the air because they're designed for it.
Or reverse it.
Take a bird and Tie a brick around its leg and put it in a bowl of water and see how that bird does.
It's going to drown.
See, here's the deal.
We don't just have complementing roles, men and women.
We have complementing roles that stem from our complementing design.
See, what complementarianism has sought to do over and against the biblical teaching of patriarchy, what complementarianism has sought to do is ultimately indict God as being arbitrary.
Did you know that that's what complementarianism does?
It's a subtle, and really not so subtle, but a subtle indictment, an accusation hurled against God himself for being arbitrary.
Right?
Women are called to one particular role, men are called to another particular role.
These two roles complement one another, but at the end of the day, these two roles, a woman could really do anything that a man does, and a man could do anything that a woman does, but that's just not what God has commanded, which ultimately is insinuating that God has called men and women to different things to complement one another, but God's callings of roles and responsibilities for men and women, respectively, is arbitrary.
It's not actually stemming from anything in God's created order.
And the Bible would reject that.
It's not just, hey, birds are called to fly and fish are called to swim because God said so.
Well, yeah, but doesn't it also have something to do with the fact that birds have feathers and wings and a hollow bone structure and fish have gills and scales and fins?
Like, are we certain that the way that these two creatures are designed doesn't have anything to do with their roles of flying and swimming?
Of course it does.
And so too with men and women.
Men and women were made differently by God.
So, the old adage of a woman saying to a man, anything you could do, I could do better, I could do anything better than you, but I'm not called to, said complementarianism.
No.
What biblical patriarchy would say, on the other hand, is anything you can do, I can't do.
Not just because I'm not called to it, not just because it's not permissible in scripture.
No, I literally can't do it.
So, it's not just that a woman is not called to preach.
Right?
Let me get specific with an example here.
It's not just that a woman is not called to preach.
A woman cannot preach.
She cannot preach.
And you won't hear people saying this very often, but I'm saying it now.
A woman is not called to preach because she can't preach.
She has not been created and designed specifically by God for that role.
She's not able to do it.
It's not just she's not permitted to do it, she is not able to do it because preaching is a fatherly task and preaching is a warrior task.
Task.
Preaching is the role of a father, and preaching is the role of a soldier.
More than a soldier, I would argue, it's the role of someone higher up above soldiers a lieutenant, a captain, a general.
Preaching is when a man gives fatherly instruction to his spiritual sons and when he charges soldiers, militia in the army to attack.
He rallies them to battle.
A good picture of preaching is William Wallace riding down the line on his horse with his face.
Painted blue, charging all the men, rattling their swords and spears as he goes by, saying, It's time.
It's time for war.
Preaching, it admonishes, it corrects, it consoles, it comforts, but it does all of this not with a womanly nature, but a fatherly nature.
Preaching is not motherly, it's fatherly.
And preaching is not docile, it's aggressive at times.
There are certain portions of the sermon where I am.
As a father instructing the people of God, the children of God, and at other times as a general, I am calling the people of God to war.
I am charging them to run into the battle, to run into the fray.
This is not merely something that a woman should not do, it is something that a woman cannot do.
And the only reason it has appeared as though women can preach, like Beth Moore, is because, one, we have gutted out what it means to be a man.
Two, we've gutted out what it means to be a woman.
And three, we've gutted out what it means to preach.
If preaching, according to the American Evangelical Church, is nothing more than a soft, fern pacing 20 minute TED talk, then sure, Beth Moore can do it.
Part of the reason people have opted for egalitarianism and soft, squishy complementarianism that thinks that certain women could preach is because we've gutted preaching.
Not just have we gutted biblical gender, but we've actually gutted the art and duty of preaching.
We've said that preaching is soft, preaching is mild, preaching is gentle, preaching is this, preaching is that.
It's all these just genderless things, these squishy, androgynous things.
And so, of course, why couldn't a woman do that?
But when you read sermon manuscripts from Charles Spurgeon and the Puritans and Jonathan Edwards, and you think about Beth Moore delivering the sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
I mean, think about that.
It's literally laughable.
It's hard to hold back the chuckle, right?
I mean, think about it.
Just picture that in your mind for a second.
Beth Moore preaching sinners in the hands of an angry God.
She can't.
It's not just she won't because she's compromised, and that sermon actually is biblically faithful and addresses the holiness of God and the sin of man.
It's not just that she won't, that she's unwilling.
She's unable.
She could not deliver that sermon, not the way that God intends a sermon like that to be delivered because she's not a man.
She's not a man.
So, all that being said, one of the things that we immensely need in our nation today, in our culture today, and it's got to start with the church today, is we need biblical preaching, biblical instruction, biblical doctrine on biblical masculinity, on patriarchy, biblical patriarchy.
And we need good biblical teaching on biblical womanhood as well.
And we need to raise the bar for the preaching, the right preaching of God's word, and the right administering of the sacrament.
To where we can easily see, to where children among us could see, oh, of course a man should be doing that.
It's a manly thing to preach the word of God.
It's a manly thing to administer the sacraments on the Lord's day of the Lord's Supper and baptism.
Of course, these things belong rightly to biblically qualified men.
We need to raise the bar with the ordinary means of grace and what the church actually is and what it does when it gathers on the Lord's day.
And we need to raise the bar for who a man is and what biblical masculinity is and raise the bar for what a woman is and what.
Biblical femininity is all these things we need a proper understanding.
And one of the things that's inescapable if we are to actually embark on this valiant endeavor is that we're going to actually have to correct women in their sin.
We have to correct men too, but for a while we've only been correcting men.
We've been correcting men for their sin, and sadly, we've been correcting men for, in many cases, their righteousness.
A man actually, in many cases, will do something right.
And he'll be rebuked by the church.
And a woman will do something wrong and be encouraged by the church.
So, men are being actually rebuked for right actions, and women are being encouraged and consoled for wrong actions.
And then we look at divorce as just one fruit.
There are many.
This is just simply one fruit of this kind of ministry, if you would call it that.
And one of the fruits is that divorce continues to increase, and it continues to increase statistically that the woman is the one who initiates divorce.
Food for thought.
All that being said, all I really spoke about was the home and the church.
If we were to get into the civil realm for a moment, I mean, the state, Caesar, civil magistrate, is described in the scripture at certain moments, certain times, in vivid descriptive language as being like a bear, having sharp claws.
The civil magistrate has been given a sword.
Women should not bear the sword, they should not bear the sword.
The civil magistrate is a bear.
You know what you want to do with a bear?
If you have any say over the bear and its actions, a bear is a great thing to sick on your enemies.
Sick them bears, right?
A bear is a great thing to sick on your enemies, right?
When you're under attack, when you need a defense.
If you've got bears at your disposal, all right, release the bears.
What you don't do with bears is let them care for your children at home.
You don't want bears.
Nurturing children and nursing infants.
You want bears mauling bad guys.
Right?
So, okay, well, the state is like bears.
Well, women are nurturing.
Women are nurturing.
So, what happens when you put a nurturing woman in a bear like position of society?
Like Kintanji Brown Jackson would be a great example.
Supreme Court judge.
What's her perspective?
How does she look at justice?
How does she fulfill that role?
She is, despite whether she wants to be or not, right?
You cannot help but be what God has designed you to be.
She naturally is going to live with at least some measure of consistency within God's created order.
She is a woman.
She may not be able to tell you what a woman is, but she is one.
And here she is as a woman sitting on the highest court in the land.
And what's her record, right?
What's her tendency when it comes to perpetrators?
When it comes to villains, when it comes to particularly child, people with child pornography, child molesters, how does she respond?
How does she react?
She thinks, man, that poor guy.
I just want to show him mercy.
I just, if only he had a better mom.
If only I could be your mom, right?
When Putin was invading Ukraine, you had women writing poems, If Only I Were Your Mom, right?
Because they're women.
They're women.
That's how they respond, right?
So Putin is invading a country and they're thinking, gosh, I feel like that guy just needed a good mom.
Or some guy has a bunch of child porno on his computer and Kintaji Brown Jackson is thinking, what's the lowest penalty that we can give him?
How much compassion can we provide?
That's the kind of characteristics that you want caring for a toddler in your living room.
That's not the kind of characteristics that you want to deal with criminals.
With criminals, you don't want mercy and compassion because that's not the realm of the church, which is word and sacrament, ministry of mercy.
That's the realm of the state, which is a realm of justice, punitive justice, which is something that you know who's geared for that kind of ministry, a ministry of justice and bearing the sword.
Men, men, did you know we wouldn't have one Democrat president in the last 50 years if women couldn't vote?
I've said it before, I'm saying it again.
This is the episode, I'd be remiss if I didn't include it dealing with the sin of women, so I'm throwing it in there.
I'll say it again not one Democrat president in the last 50 years if women couldn't vote.
Ironically, women's suffrage has caused more suffering for women than just about anything else.
And for the record, women's suffrage, a lot of the underlying intention for it was to split the household vote, to turn women against their husbands, to try to create an independency from their husbands, splitting marriages, splitting the household.
Vote, turning women against their husbands.
Feminism and Household Rebellion00:05:15
This is what feminism has done for decades and decades and decades.
It has become more blatant, more obvious, more apparent the sinful nature of this whole feminism thing, but the seeds were there from the very beginning.
It's not just third wave feminism that's sinful.
No, the sinful seeds of feminism were there in the first wave, more subtle.
They're there in the second wave.
Certainly, there in the third wave.
And now, the fourth wave, and this is what happens when you rebel against God and his designated created order.
The fourth wave of feminism, if we were to define it as anything, is that you go from a woman can do some things that a man can do, a woman can do a lot of things that a man can do, a woman can do all the things that a man can do, and then there's no such thing as a woman.
A woman is a man, and a man is a woman.
Here we are with fourth wave feminism, and what's the fruit of that?
The fruit of that is a bunch of hulking dudes stealing medals from teenage girls at track meets and men dressed up as women winning a Woman of the Year award.
And some man who is literally just mocking women on TikTok being invited to the White House to talk to the President of the United States.
That's the ultimate fruit of feminism.
Now, feminists will, of course, object at this.
No, That's not what we wanted.
No, it's not what you wanted, but it's what you get.
It's what you get.
It's what rebellion against God gets.
It's what rebellion against God's designated order gets.
Here's the deal God is a father.
He identifies as a father.
He reveals himself as a father.
Not a father and a mother, but a father.
And we live in the father's world.
And to live in the father's world in a way that is conducive to human flourishing and blessing and prosperity is to live in accordance with the father's rules.
We have a father.
Above all, he has built a house.
We live in the Father's house.
The Father has rules for his house, and the Father blesses the blessings of the Father roll down, in effect, all of those who inhabit his house through other fathers.
We have fathers in the state, we have fathers in the church, namely elders, right?
Civil fathers, spiritual, ecclesiastical fathers, and familial fathers in the home.
And it is through human fathers.
At each of these three sovereign spheres, the home, the church, and the state, whether it be the husband as the head of the wife and the father as the head of the children, or elders as the leaders in Christ's church, or whether it be governors and mayors and presidents as the civil fathers in the sphere of the state, at every level, you have the father who's above it all, the father, heavenly father,
who created his fatherly world and instituted the father's.
Rules and works through and blesses through human fathers.
That's the way the world works.
You can resent it, you can hate it, but that's the world.
That's like, you know, it's again back to the analogy of a bird and a fish.
It's like, well, this is the world that you're living in, right?
You may want little fishy to fly in the sky.
You see birds swimming over your pond, you know, you're looking up through the surface and you see a bird flying through the pond.
You think, I want freedom.
And so one day you swim around in circles and pick up as much speed as you possibly can.
And then with all your might, you jump and break the surface of the water and start to fly for approximately 2.5 seconds and land on the shore, flop around for a while and die.
You really wanted to be free, really wanted to be liberated from the shackles of that pond, that water that was holding you back.
Was it holding you back, or was that just the conducive, proper context designed by God in which you would thrive?
Because of the way that you've been made, because you are not autonomously free and you don't get to be whatever you want to be.
The myth of free will, right?
There are certain things you just can't, you're a creature.
No creature has autonomous free will.
I cannot will myself to be nine feet tall, I cannot will myself to fly.
There are plenty of things that are outside the bounds of my realm of choices because I'm a creature.
I'm a creature.
And that works at every realm, at every level.
I am not just a creature, I'm a human being creature.
And not just a human being creature, but I am a human male creature.
And all these things say something about who I am, the way I've been designed by God to be, and which things I can choose that will prosper, and which other things that are outside my bounds, outside my design, that I might try to choose, but ultimately will end in disaster.
Humility Before YouTube Comments00:04:43
Women are not inherently more sinful than men.
But at this current juncture, because the culture and sadly even the American evangelical church has refused to correct women for their sin and has often wrongly corrected men for things that they have done that have not been sin, here we are.
Here we are.
And if we want to get the world back to the way that God designed it, part of this conversation of Christian nationalism, make America Christian again, Makkah, these kinds of things, part of it is going to have to include, and I would say a large part of it, is going to have to include some serious.
Teaching on biblical masculinity and biblical womanhood.
We're going to have to understand that in every realm what it means in the home, what it means in the church, what it means in the state.
We're going to have to understand these things.
And there's going to have to be the church repenting, pastors repenting for their cowardice, right?
Male pastors being afraid of women.
That's what it comes down to.
That really is what it is.
You got a bunch of male pastors.
The reason we got where we are is because you got a bunch of male pastors with their tails between their legs, cowardly and shivering like little kawai.
Little chihuahua dogs in an old lady's lap just quivering there on Sunday morning when they're in the pulpit, afraid, afraid to correct half of the membership of their church.
I mean, think about that for a second.
Do you think that a church is going to be healthy and thrive if a pastor is fiercely committed to never correcting half of the members?
I'll let you guess which half it is.
It's the women.
We know it.
We see it.
And the beauty is that by God's grace, there's a remnant rising.
There are godly women.
My wife is a godly woman.
There are dozens of godly women in my church.
And many of you, I mean, even just statistically, I think it's like 75%.
Of the people who listen to this show, who subscribe to our channel on YouTube, are men.
But honestly, I'm a little bit encouraged that at least 25% of them are women.
Because if 25% of the people who listen to this show are women and they're listening to a show that includes episodes like this one, and they're actually able to make it to the end of the episode, and they don't write me a death threat and an email within the next 30 minutes, that's encouraging.
That's hopeful.
It's not just that I have my wife and I have my sister and I have my Mom, and then I have other women in our church, but there are thousands of women, some of you that I've never even met, who are listening to this.
And it's not just a bunch of men saying, Yeah, get them, Joel.
I know right now there are women listening to my voice, watching this video, who fear God, who fear God, and are resonating with what I say.
And you're saying, Preach it, Pastor.
And I pray that God would endow my pastor here in my home church with courage to preach it too.
Bless you, woman of God.
Bless you for that heart attitude, for that heart posture, that response.
Bless you.
I know you're out there, and I think there are more and more every day.
So that's how we got where we are.
It gives you kind of a little bit of the steps of things that we need to do to improve.
But I wanted to end it on that hopeful note and saying that I think already things are better than they were three years ago.
I really do.
I think three years ago, I would have gotten way, I'll get pushback.
Trust me.
Don't worry.
The Lord keeps me humble with the YouTube comments.
So I'll get plenty of pushback.
But I think that if I had done a video like this three years ago, it would have gotten 10 times the pushback, 10 times the trolls that this will get.
Because Reformation is underway and God is gracious and merciful and changing hearts.
Oh, hi, I didn't see you there.
Thanks for sticking around.
I've got an important announcement to make.
That's the Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference 2023, May 5th, 6th, and 7th, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Theonomy and Postmillennialism.
We've got the speakers that we've already had lined up.
That's Dr. James White, Dr. Joseph Boot, Dr. Gary DeMar, non doctor Pastor Joel Weben.
But we also have a bonus speaker, and that is Dale Partridge from Real Christianity.
Perhaps you've heard of him.
If not, you should start listening to his podcast.
It's fantastic.
Dale Partridge is going to be joining our team.
We're going to have live panels on Friday night and Saturday night where you'll be able to write in questions and get them answered.
We're also going to have a catered barbecue, Texas style barbecue meal on Friday that's a part of your registration fee.