Nick Fuentes confronts Tucker Carlson's New York Times interview, alleging the host is an elite operative shielding his son Buckley from firing while dismissing race and immigration as distractions. Fuentes argues Vance, Musk, and Thiel orchestrate a "Jewish takeover" via the "Matrix," claiming Iran war aims to create an Israeli superpower. He asserts America First cannot survive without him, predicts inevitable Strait of Hormuz conflict, and declares a shift to a non-woke Democrat stance against the establishment's globalist agenda. [Automatically generated summary]
What makes Christianity and Christ so different from the other religions is that our religion is based on the bearing of suffering for the sake of even those that persecute us.
An overflowing of love, an overflowing of self-giving love, so much of it it cannot be contained.
An unconditional, absolute standard of love for all of God's children.
Even those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even the most heinous among us.
Because the Republicans are better than the Democrats.
Here's a little perspective.
Let's say that Kamala Harris had won the election in 2024.
If Kamala doubled down on supporting Ukraine as Trump has, if Kamala bombed Iran, there'd be riots in the streets.
People would say our illegitimate president, who cheated her way into the nomination, she's expanding the war, she's expanding World War III into the Middle East.
Everybody would say this is illegitimate, this is like a crime.
But because it was Trump, 90% of Republicans supported Trump bombing Iran on Israel's behalf.
Because it was Trump.
If it was Kamala, do you think 90% of Republicans would have supported it?
Absolutely not.
Democrats wouldn't support it, independents wouldn't support it, and Republicans would not support it.
And it's time to just say it outright Donald Trump is the Matrix president, okay?
In 2016, Hillary Clinton was the Matrix candidate.
In 2020, Joe Biden was the matrix candidate.
But in 2024, Donald Trump was.
And why?
After October 7th, the Jews knew that the Republican Party, controlled by AIPAC, controlled by Israel, and with Trump in office, they were going to let Israel do whatever they wanted to do.
It's clear, it's obvious.
And the media is in on it.
Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and the media are all in on it because Trump is their matrix candidate.
That's why CNN is friendly to them.
That's why Silicon Valley gave him hundreds of millions of dollars.
That's why Wall Street did.
And Trump is just dispensing the favors.
Corporate tax cuts for Wall Street, bombing Iran for Israel.
This is the story of the 2024 election.
And here's the red pill that nobody's ready for JD Vance is the Matrix candidate.
They ordered Trump to nominate him.
Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Tucker Carlson ordered Trump to pick JD Vance.
We live in a system that is controlled by one party, and they played the parties off of each other.
They've done it forever.
When Israel was under attack, They played into the right wing because they knew that the Republican Party would say things like, There's a Muslim takeover of America.
Trump said he was going to bomb Iran.
We're tough.
So they leaned into the Republican cultural stuff.
That's why Charlie Kirk says Islam is taking over America, because that kind of Islamophobic rhetoric plays well with the right wing.
That's why they did it.
There's no Muslim takeover of America, there's a Jewish takeover of America, obviously.
And the Republicans are involved in it just as much as the Democrats.
And this is what they don't want you to hear.
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They are getting stronger.
I don't want to pretend, oh no, they're totally relevant.
Shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down.
They use artificial intelligence to look at vast amounts of data and create insights.
If the government has an amount of data which is kind of unimaginable, if you've got every phone call, every email, every transaction, every photograph of a license plate on the highway, satellite data, it's too much data for a bureaucracy to sift through.
Palantir comes in and interprets the data using.
Algorithms using artificial intelligence, using software to make vast amounts of data usable.
That's what they are.
And so many of the people that worked with Elon that came into the government through Doge worked with Palantir.
Now that Doge is finished, Palantir seems to be just getting started.
This would be the third time that Israel has threatened to use nukes to force the United States to help them.
The first time was in 1973.
When Syria and Egypt launched a surprise attack on Israel, which started the Yom Kippur War on October 6th, 1973, almost 50 years exactly before October 7th, Israel was almost overrun.
And the United States was reluctant to provide them with the military support that they needed to defend themselves.
So, the prime minister of Israel, Golda Meir, called up Nixon and said, If you don't help us, we will nuke Syria and Egypt.
We will use our nuclear arsenal.
We will nuke the Middle East.
And you want to know what happened next?
The largest airlift by tonnage of military equipment in the history of the earth.
Everything that Israel needed to defend themselves.
The next day, there's a word for that.
It's called nuclear blackmail.
These people are maniacs.
This is your closest ally.
And for people that say, you know, what does it matter?
We're like the SWAT team of Free Thought, and I go on with this battle ram at the door, and then they come in with these laser beams and have that information.
If you want to take your country back, you have to stand up and take your own side.
It's all coming down to this.
In 2026, in the midterms, we are showing up and the Gripers are showing up with us.
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the September attacks, there were countless rumors about strange coincidences surrounding the events.
One report about a group of Middle Eastern men spotted the morning of September 11th parked just across the river from New York City has not gone away.
What makes Christianity and Christ so different from the other religions is that our religion is based on the bearing of suffering for the sake of even those that persecute us.
An overflowing of love, an overflowing of self-giving love, so much as it cannot be contained, an unconditional, absolute standard of love for all of God's children, even those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even the most heinous among us.
That is what makes us different.
That is what makes us good.
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on this keto knife ever since i got on the air circle ever since i got on the carnivore knife shut the fuck up Any final words to young men?
Because the Republicans are better than the Democrats.
Here's a little perspective.
Let's say that Kamala Harris had won the election in 2024.
If Kamala doubled down on supporting Ukraine as Trump has, if Kamala bombed Iran, there'd be riots in the streets.
People would say our illegitimate president, who cheated her way into the nomination, she's expanding the war, she's expanding World War III into the Middle East.
Everybody would say this is illegitimate, this is like a crime.
But because it was Trump, 90% of Republicans supported Trump bombing Iran on Israel's behalf.
Because it was Trump.
If it was Kamala, do you think 90% of Republicans would have supported it?
Absolutely not.
Democrats wouldn't support it, independents wouldn't support it, and Republicans would not support it.
And it's time to just say it outright Donald Trump is the Matrix president, okay?
In 2016, Hillary Clinton was the Matrix candidate.
In 2020, Joe Biden was the matrix candidate.
But in 2024, Donald Trump was.
And why?
After October 7th, the Jews knew that the Republican Party, controlled by AIPAC, controlled by Israel, and with Trump in office, they were going to let Israel do whatever they wanted to do.
It's clear, it's obvious.
And the media is in on it.
Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and the media are all in on it because Trump is their matrix candidate.
That's why CNN is friendly to them.
That's why Silicon Valley gave him hundreds of millions of dollars.
That's why Wall Street did.
And Trump is just dispensing the favors.
Corporate tax cuts for Wall Street, bombing Iran for Israel.
This is the story of the 2024 election.
And here's the red pill that nobody's ready for JD Vance is the Matrix candidate.
They ordered Trump to nominate him.
Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Tucker Carlson ordered Trump to pick JD Vance.
We live in a system that is controlled by one party, and they played the parties off of each other.
They've done it forever.
When Israel was under attack, They played into the right wing because they knew that the Republican Party would say things like, There's a Muslim takeover of America.
Trump said he was going to bomb Iran.
We're tough.
So they leaned into the Republican cultural stuff.
That's why Charlie Kirk says Islam is taking over America, because that kind of Islamophobic rhetoric plays well with the right wing.
That's why they did it.
There's no Muslim takeover of America, there's a Jewish takeover of America, obviously.
And the Republicans are involved in it just as much as the Democrats.
And this is what they don't want you to hear.
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They are getting stronger.
I don't want to pretend, oh no, they're totally relevant.
Chris Wada, I can't see the time, but I'm having the time of my life.
Chris Pope, the game on the line.
I'm dropping the dime on him.
He called it turning white USA and beat it.
And that's why it's filled with grape.
I'm trying to change for the better.
It's driving me fucking the same.
Hey, he on the bed.
I'm on the cover.
We're not on the same pace.
I be from the back, she gripping them covers like she on her latest leg She look like she belong on a cover this whole game covered in everything I'm gonna buy a bottle, take a banana, but she is not getting wet in rain V wants to interview Nick Fuente Get the word out Ten whole vibes in this brewing,
we just ate ten whole thousand for dinner I got a pent up type of aggression, I'm bout to go mental, tryna suppress it It don't make no noise, be suppressed I spent your whole life on my necklace Couldn't tell which one I like better, so I'm getting both kinds of that shit I'm taking that dinner, I got your whole crying off of my It's undeniable.
He's winning.
He's sort of undeniable in the space.
He's everywhere now.
He's enormously huge at this point.
He's on a generational run.
He is freaking on fire.
Clearly a sender.
It's spelled F U E N T E S. Very proud to present Nick Fuentes.
Very excited to be back here with you tonight on Monday.
We have a lot to talk about tonight, lots to get into.
Big show.
Our featured story we're talking all about this Tucker Carlson interview in the New York Times.
And wow, I'm a little offended.
I have to say, I'm a little bit offended.
I think I got my feelings hurt a little bit.
Big interview with Tucker in the New York Times.
I think it dropped yesterday, yesterday or Saturday.
And it's worth watching the entire thing if you haven't watched it or read it.
I think it's worth reading, watching in its entirety.
A lot was said.
And tonight we're going to work through all of it, or at least some of the key details.
And there's a few things in particular that I want to talk about.
And obviously, the big one, if you read anything about it or you read the interview, the big thing relating to this show is that Tucker said that he regrets interviewing me.
As you know, I did an interview with Tucker Carlson in late October of last year.
It is the second biggest show on his YouTube channel.
It's literally, I think it's number three or number two.
25 million views, second biggest video on his channel.
Totally massive.
It spawned this huge controversy that lasted weeks, months.
And Tucker said in the interview that he regrets doing it.
He says that actually it was just a big distraction from the bigger issues like the war in Iran and the economic system and foreign policy, among other things.
And I don't know, that's kind of offensive to me.
So we'll talk about that comment.
He went into a lot of detail about me in general, though, not just about the interview.
He also talked about JD Vance.
And let me just tell you if you read this interview and you don't think that something is up there, you must just not be that intelligent or you're not paying attention because this interview is weird.
They ask Tucker what he thinks about JD Vance.
And how the war in Iran is going to hurt him politically.
And so Tucker weighs in and says, I think Vance is in this very difficult position.
He opposes the war in Iran, and yet he has to support it because he's not the president, he's the vice president.
And this is where it gets a little bizarre.
So the interviewer says, When's the last time you talked to him?
And Tucker says, I don't know.
And the interviewer says, Really?
You don't know the last time you talked to the vice president of the United States?
And he goes, I don't know.
I just don't want to get him in trouble.
And she goes, Well, what do you think about how your son just got kicked out of JD Vance's office?
Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley, was working in the press office for JD Vance.
He just left a few weeks ago.
Tucker says, Oh, I don't know anything about that.
He says, I think my son should be left out of this.
Why would he be?
You are one of the most influential commentators in America.
JD Vance is the vice president.
Your son works for him.
We're in the middle of this war that you're criticizing every day.
JD Vance opposes it.
The president launched it.
You don't know why he got kicked out.
You don't think that's newsworthy?
And then here's where it gets really good.
Take a wild guess.
Where do you think that went?
Where do you think that led to?
Because that wasn't the complete answer.
After he denies knowing what's going on in his son's life and then saying we shouldn't even talk about it.
Where do you think it went after that?
Where do you think we landed?
Take a wild guess.
Take a stab in the dark.
Literally, Tucker Carlson, guess anything.
What do you think he said next?
If you guessed it landed in the blood guilt speech about like Christianity and the Jews, you would be correct because somehow he got there.
It went from, I don't know why my son.
Left Vance's office to, we shouldn't even be talking about that.
And then he stuck the landing with, he said, and you know, this is why people come to America, because we don't believe in blood guilt.
Those aren't our values.
And you want to say, I don't even know.
So I don't even know what that has to do with anything at all at this point.
You know, it kind of made sense in the context of Gaza and like Israel.
And like anti Semitism in response to Israel.
Like, okay, it's a little convoluted, but you see the connection.
I don't even know what we're doing with that one anymore.
That's just like the get out of jail free card.
He's just spamming his alt.
That's every question.
Well, you know, I don't believe in blood guilt.
That's against my religion.
Okay, what does that have to do with your son working for the vice president?
Sorry, I don't see the connection.
But so anyway, he got into that.
And then here was the grand finale.
And this is really the important thing that I want to get into because this.
Ties it all together.
In the end, he painted a very, let's say, distinct picture of what his worldview really is, because then they revisited me in the context of what I represent.
And the interviewer said Nick Fuentes is a race guy.
He talks about race and the Jews and religion.
And Tucker brings it all home by saying that I, As a representative of that conversation about identity, race, religion, world Jewry, I am a distraction.
Then, me talking about those issues is a giant sideshow.
It's a diversion.
It's a distraction that the elites actually like, that the economic and foreign policy elites see as useful, because I'm distracting from the so called real problems, which are the way that labor is taxed in the country or The way our economic system works.
And that any discussion of race, religion, Jews, is just a giant diversion from talking about economic populism.
And to bring it all home, that is represented by JD Vance.
So when I say that JD Vance could not possibly be loyal to white people because he married a first generation Indian immigrant, Tucker says, I am a calculated distraction created by the elites.
Getting everybody into the weeds, dividing and conquering the nation on the basis of race and religion, so that JD Vance can't win the presidency and increase the capital gains tax or something, so that JD Vance can't tackle crypto scams and the real estate affordability crisis.
And there's sort of like an interesting through line.
These things might seem to be.
Disconnected or separate, but by the end of the show, you'll see how they're all deeply related.
And it is really a story about me and JD Vance.
But it's not really a story about me and JD Vance, it's a story about the Trump movement and who will succeed Trump.
It's about these two different threads that have been running throughout this entire decade since Trump won the election.
And that is the grassroots energy that Trump unleashed.
It is the real flesh and blood American people, the grassroots, real Americans who are fed up with the way in which the country is changing.
Its religion, its traditions, yes, its color, its race, its demographics.
And that is represented by me and by the Groypers.
We are the young people.
We are the young people that are staring down the barrel of a future, not where we won't have jobs, but where we will be a minority in our own land, where hypergamy, And complete apostasy from religion and the church has left everybody hollow and miserable.
That is one faction which woke up from Trumpism and which might be poised to take the baton from him and harness some of that energy.
And the other thread is represented by JD Vance, who comes from a new money coalition.
It's a new moneyed elite faction.
He's obviously representative of or puppeteered by Little Tech.
And these new technological moneyed interests coming from AI, crypto, to some extent, the satellites, rocket ships, all these other things that are emerging, all of that.
And they are trying to steer some of the general popular discontent about a variety of issues into a hostile takeover against the left.
And that's really all that is rotating out one group of elites from the Obama era, unions and Facebook.
And some of the Wall Street interests and rotating in a new group of elites, which is Palantir and Elon Musk and David Sachs and Vance and apparently Tim Mellon and some of the other interests, Andreessen Horowitz, these interests that propelled Trump in 24.
That seems to be what this is really about.
And Tucker is situated in the middle, trying to mediate that conversation, clearly managing that conversation, clearly somebody who is in the pocket for Vance.
Deeply allied with Vance and everybody involved with Vance, including Peter Thiel.
And he recognizes that the Groypers are absolutely hostile to Vance and everything he represents.
And so there's this careful perception management happening.
How do we salvage Vance's reputation as an America first foreign policy guy who's going to run and win in 28?
How do we do damage control against the Groypers, led by this guy?
Who recognize what it really is?
That seems to be the crisis here.
And you could tell that Tucker didn't really prepare for the interview because he didn't have a lot of straight answers.
Like I said, they ask him, When do you talk to the vice president?
I don't know.
Why did your son get kicked out of his press office?
I don't know.
What do you think about it?
Here was another part which I omitted.
Tucker says, Well, it's knives out in the White House.
I don't know why my son got kicked out of his office.
I don't know if he's.
Politically toxic because of the war.
I just don't know.
The one thing Tucker knows is that JD Vance is a good man who's going to fix all the problems and should be the president.
So, anyway, we're going to talk all about that.
We'll work through the interview, some very, very important stuff.
Like, this is it.
This is like the series finale type level stuff of America First.
This is like when all the storylines come together in the end.
I'm not exaggerating.
And if you've been watching the show for a long time, you know this is true.
These have always been the issues.
The succession of Trump, the personnel in Mar a Lago and the White House, these have always been the central issues.
And it's been a battle for a long time.
I used to call it Populist Inc.
Now we recognize it as the Tealverse, Little Tech, Populist Nationalist, NatCon, whatever you want to call it.
But it's them trying to skin suit the Trump movement, skin suit America first, steal and siphon and leech that energy.
And like I said, use it to propel them into the seat of power versus us, versus the real people that the Trump movement actually spoke to.
So we'll talk about all that.
We're also going to get into the war in Iran if we have time.
It looks like the war in Iran is about to start again.
I told you it would.
And who even really knows?
I mean, it's such a load of crap.
The latest is that the president posted on True Social that there is a new operation.
To open up the strait.
So he posts on True Social that the US military is going into the Strait of Hormuz, and we are going to use military ships to escort all the commercial ships out of the strait.
There are 2,000 ships stuck inside the Persian Gulf, and Trump says the Navy is going to help them get out.
Now, what do you think that looks like?
If I told you that's the plan, what do you envision?
Because everybody thought that what that meant is that the Navy is going to go into the Persian Gulf.
They're going to cross the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf and escort the ships out.
Well, if we could have done that, why didn't we do that?
The reason we have not done that is because if a U.S. Navy destroyer goes into the Strait, it will get bombed and destroyed because they're too slow.
So those big Navy destroyers don't go through the Strait, they can't.
Because if they do, they will get hit with drones.
And that's why there's been no operation like this.
So people start to say, is that what we're seriously going to do?
We're just going to walk right into the trap, dare Iran to hit us?
And sure enough, Iran said, if there is any interference from a foreign navy, we will bomb them.
Trump corrects the record later in the day and says, actually, no, we're not escorting the ships, we're working with insurance companies.
And the companies that are backing these commercial routes, and we're going to effectively encourage them to leave the strait without an escort.
And if Iran attacks them, then we're going to do something.
Then what?
That's the plan right now.
We're encouraging the commercial ships to just take a chance and go, and we're daring Iran to hit the commercial ships without a Navy escort to protect them.
And I guess if Iran does that, then we're going to retaliate, although how is unclear.
So that's the plan right now.
Now, in the middle of this today, some of these ships tried to make it across the strait.
Iran attacked them.
The U.S. Navy attacked six speedboats that Iran deployed.
And then, allegedly, Iran launched an attack on the UAE oil fields on their storage facilities.
And now the UAE says they will retaliate, and Israel is allegedly looking to restart the war with Iran, but they need a blessing from Washington first.
So it seems like, in the next 24 hours, we get a resumption of hostilities.
Iran and the U.S. are trying to hold it together.
Iran says that we should stick to diplomacy through Pakistan and other mediators.
It's unclear what the position in Washington is, but they're trying to salvage the ceasefire while all these shenanigans are going on.
I told you on Friday, this is going to end in a confrontation eventually.
And I told you last week, I said it might not be in days, weeks, months, but we're coming back to war because neither side is willing to walk back or I should say step down from their red line.
And if that's the case, then the only way we can resolve the impasse is through a military confrontation.
Both sides think they can win, one of us is wrong.
There's only one way to find out.
So, like I said, if we have time, we'll get into that as well.
But it should be a pretty good show.
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I did a huge voice message this weekend when the Tucker article dropped.
I talked all about Casey Push in Ohio.
I talked about Tucker's interview.
I talked about the event that was held this weekend.
I taught, what is it even called?
America First United?
Like, guys, the ride never ends.
Like, I don't even know what to do anymore, honestly.
I don't even know where to go.
Like, there's not even anywhere to go, there's nothing to do.
There's no one out there.
But I, so I talked about all of it.
All the things that I don't have time to get to on the show, I do cover in the group chat.
And so those were a few of the topics.
We went into my beef with Casey Push.
Rest in piss.
You're going to get destroyed tomorrow.
It's going to be fucking awesome.
The event that was held this weekend.
The backlash over my comments on Friday.
I said immigration doesn't matter anymore.
People lost their minds over that.
And I went into a lot of detail on the Tucker interview as well.
So check that out.
AmericaFirst.plus.
That's the link.
Check it out over there.
Okay, with that out of the way, we're going to dive in.
Man, there's so much to talk about.
In the first place, okay, before we even get to the interview, I do just want to talk about this event.
So I don't even know what this is, okay?
That's the best part.
I discovered last week that there's this convening, there's this meeting of the minds, a true think tank.
There's this conference being held in Ohio this weekend.
I only find out about it last week.
It's called America First United, I think.
And the only reason I find out about it is because people start posting the promo card with all the speakers, and it's Faith Merrill and Jake Shields and the usual suspects.
And I saw that, and then there's all this fighting about it on Twitter, and so and so got invited, and this one didn't get invited.
And so people asked me about it on Friday, and I said, I don't even know what this is.
Okay.
I don't know who's behind it.
I don't know who's running it.
I have nothing to do with that.
And I'm just not going to weigh in.
Okay.
I wish him the best.
Well, they hold this event and it's like a complete optical disaster.
I'm not trying to be mean spirited.
I know it's difficult to do an event.
I've done many events in my life.
I know they're extraordinarily difficult to pull off and to do right.
It's a million things that go into it.
So I'm not trying to be negative.
I'm not trying to be overly critical.
But it didn't go very well.
And there were a lot of things about it that were ill conceived.
The speakers they invited, they're trying to do this thing where they bring together the right and the left and Muslims and Christians.
And I understand this impulse for an ecumenical movement like that, where we're all united in our antipathy towards Israel.
It just never works in practice because people have real beliefs and ideologies, and these things clash on a deep level.
And so, in some ways, that's just not going to work.
And anyway, so they do this event.
Everybody's clowning on it.
Everybody's laughing at these people, and it just doesn't look good.
Okay, it's not a good look.
And sure enough, I get blamed for it.
Sure enough, everybody is saying, Oh, look, the Groypers held the conference this weekend.
The Groypers, what part of how can you call it a movement?
What was the other optical disaster in the past week?
Oh, then it was the SPLC thing.
You know, I'm not even doing the show.
Then I'm in Rome getting my paycheck from David Axelrod in the Vatican.
Now, this I don't do the show for the weekend, and they do an event, and I get blamed for it.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
You know what's interesting, though?
And listen, this is just interesting.
I'm just going to say this.
So I heard that the event organizer said something to the effect of America First is bigger than Nick Fuentes.
Someone said.
That this was said.
I heard this was said somewhere.
And listen, I'm just pointing something out.
And I'm not trying to be shitty when I say this, although it's going to come across that way.
You want America first without Nick Fuentes?
Well, you got it.
You saw what that looks like.
I'll just say that much, okay?
I don't know if that's true.
I heard it was said.
Somebody said it's a he said, she said thing.
Somebody said that somebody else said on a call or something that, you know, it doesn't matter that a bunch of people that hated me were in attendance and it doesn't matter that I wasn't there.
They said, because it's bigger than him.
Well, I don't know if it's bigger without me, but certainly that's what it looks like without me.
I'll just say that much.
And you could do with that information what you want, but that's the truth.
You want America first without Nick Fluentes?
Well, you got a little preview, you got a little taste of that.
And I don't care how big your Twitter account is, I don't care.
You know how viral the posts are, that's what you got.
So good luck.
It's time to recognize this is America First.
There is no other America First.
There is no other America First.
There is no America First without this.
This is the movement.
It's time for a little recognition.
You tried it.
You tried it.
You saw how that went.
This is the movement.
And you don't have to like that and you don't need to love that, but that's just the way it is.
It's just true.
So I saw that this weekend, and I'm not going to lie.
I took a little bit of pleasure in seeing how it was received because I've been doing this for a long time, and I feel like I don't always get the credit necessarily, which I'm not always after.
But I have worked through a lot of these problems, and I've been doing this for a long time, and we've made a lot of mistakes, and we've learned a lot of lessons.
A lot of things have happened in these 10 years.
And I talk about that in relation to the Trump movement and electoral politics and infiltration, entryism, hosting events, protests, like the rhetoric.
We've worked through a lot of these things.
We've refined a lot of these things over the years.
And suffice to say, I'm one of the lone survivors.
I've been one of the only people that's had real longevity that's actually produced anything viable with energy, any kind of competence.
And I've been saying it for the past five months.
You got a lot of these people that got red pilled last year.
A lot of people woke up to this idea, these facts, nine months ago, 12 months ago, and suddenly they think that's enough.
They think that's sufficient.
We're going to take this information.
We're going to take this vague notion that Jews are in control, and we're going to take that and just run with it.
And we're just going to ask questions later.
It's not going to go the way you think, you know?
And so try it at your own peril.
We have to be a little bit humble.
We have to have the humility to recognize the vastness and complexity of the problem and take it seriously and realize that no amount of haste or pure enthusiasm or hatred, some kind of emotional gut reaction, that doesn't help us solve the problem.
You know, what helps us solve the problem is patience, prudence, humility, listening, studying, learning.
Okay, these are the things that help us approach an ambitious project like the one we're all engaged in, which is try to take back the country.
Okay, if we're ever going to do that, if that's even possible, we're going to need a little bit more of those qualities and a little bit less of the other stuff.
You know, exuberance is no substitute for careful planning, being methodical, okay, being careful, being smart, all the having good instincts, these kinds of things.
So, anyway.
Just a little lesson.
And you wish people wouldn't have to learn the hard way, but sometimes they do.
Sometimes they have to go out and embarrass themselves and also me, coincidentally.
But that's how it goes sometimes.
So, anyway, so I do just want to throw that out there.
Yeah, I had nothing to do with that.
I wasn't even there.
That's actually what it looks like when you don't have me.
That's when it's the whole bench and not me.
There you go.
But anyway, we are going to move on.
We're going to get into the news here.
We're going to talk all about this Tucker Carlson.
Interview with the New York Times.
And I just want to say at the very beginning, this is a really important interview to talk about.
I just want to impress upon you the significance of this.
Obviously, Tucker has emerged as one of the most important influential voices.
But it's not just his influence, it is the network that he is involved in.
We've talked about this at length.
Tucker Carlson is obviously involved in a clique.
He is involved in a clique which is vying for power.
He is not a journalist.
He is not a commentator.
That's not what he is.
Do you know what Tucker Carlson was doing throughout 2024?
He was in the Arabian Peninsula meeting with the heads of state and heads of government of all the Gulf Cooperation Council nations Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Qatar.
That's not what a journalist does.
You know, a lot of journalists from the Huffington Post.
Independent journalists on YouTube and Spotify that are meeting with the Crown Prince of the United Arab Emirates, that are meeting with the Crown Prince of Qatar, of Saudi Arabia?
I don't think so.
I don't know what he is.
Nobody knows what he is.
He is clearly some kind of intelligence aligned operative.
He is clearly involved deeply with his best friend, Peter Thiel, with JD Vance, another good friend of his, with Joe Kent, a CIA officer.
He is in bed with people in the intelligence community and people in this government.
And exerts influence on it.
And that is why there is so much consternation among the pro Israel crowd about his rise and about his apparent shift in what he talks about and how he talks about it, specifically as it pertains to Israel.
And so, what he says in this interview, it's of importance.
It really matters because this is the discourse, this is the conversation inside the American right wing.
And this is going to determine the future of where the party goes after Trump leaves office.
JD Vance is a vice president, heir apparent.
There's going to be an attempt to consolidate support around him.
And that's going to be an awful lot of power to dictate the future of the GOP in the wake of the sunsetting of Trump's political career.
It's a big deal.
And Tucker is a spokesman for this.
He's a prophet for this.
And so it matters what he's thinking and saying.
So, anyway, that's just a little bit on the significance of it.
I want to get into the interview.
And in the first place, I want to talk a little bit about what he said about me because he did address me directly.
And it's sort of funny.
There were a few major topics in the interview.
They talk about the war in Iran, the Trump administration, JD Vance.
They talk about what's happening in the country.
But a significant chunk of the interview was really all about me and my interview with Tucker back in October of 2025.
What's interesting is that Tucker did not want to talk about that at all.
Didn't want to talk about me.
He almost seemed insulted that he had to.
Interviewer kept bringing me up, asking him about me, and he seemed not happy about that.
So we're going to work through this.
We'll start with.
What was said about me in my interview.
And like I said, this is not completely self indulgent.
And that is that because of communication, transportation technology, because of the collapse of birth rates in the first world, rise of birth rates in the third world, you have a massive migration of non white people, poor, peasant, illiterate, non white people from the global south to the global north.
And we're talking about Hispanics and Asians moving north into the United States.
We're talking about Africans and Middle Easterners moving north across the Mediterranean into Europe.
So I would say that's one of my big issues.
And it is an issue of race, ethnicity, and religion.
It's changing, like he said, using his terminology.
It is the composition of the country that is changing and changing too quickly.
It is the absolute total change, but it's also the rate of change.
This is the central issue of our time that America and Europe was, Europe was for thousands of years, European, white.
Whether it's the Germanic tribes, whether it's the Romans, the Greeks, this is a distinct civilization with a distinct race, a distinct culture, religion, all those things.
And now it's going to be something else.
It's a lot of Africans, it's a lot of Muslims, it's a lot of Arabs, Indians, Pakistanis.
It will be something else.
Something is lost.
The civilization, the lineage, the race, Which produced Homer and Cervantes and Shakespeare and Dante is dying.
It's being killed and replaced with the Igbo, with the Pashtun, with Bengalis.
If America is a satellite or an offshoot of Europe, the same thing is happening here.
The continuity is being broken.
Okay, that's number one.
Number two, and this is related, is that sort of around the same time that America and Europe had been invaded by non white people.
There has also been another replacement, which is that our old elites, our old power structure, which was once a Catholic monarchy and then became Protestant monarchies and then became republics led by white people, now are being run by Jewish moneyed interests.
And so at the time of the French Revolution, you had two democracies in the whole world, and the rest of Europe and the other white societies.
It was kings, kings and queens, all Christian.
Well, then after World War I, you had all these republics, and it was all white people voting and having a citizenry and a parliament and a legislature and all these things.
But after World War II, now it's all a Jewish moneyed system.
It's all incomprehensibly complex.
There's this syncretism, there's a syncing up of the productive capabilities, productive powers, money powers.
Military powers and bureaucracy, it's now something else.
And now we have a Jewish leadership, which is clearly accelerating a lot of these other changes social, cultural, political, demographic changes.
We have a Jewish elite.
That's why everything is pro Israel.
That's why they say the reason Germany exists is to apologize for the Holocaust.
It's why in America you can't have a visa if you criticize Israel.
It goes on and on like this.
And so, like, these are the two issues, these are identity issues.
My show is about the clash of civilizations, that the Western white world is being impacted by the non white demographic replacement and the ascendance of Jewish civilization inside of America, the ascendance of Jewish nationalism.
Zionism is a part of that, which now apparently steers America and America steers the world empire.
Tucker says, in response to the question, what do you think about Nick Fuentes and his impact on the future of the right?
And what She means is my ideas.
When she says white supremacy, racism, sexism, Christian nationalism, anti Semitism, it's these issues.
It's that whites are going to think of themselves as whites, Christians thinking of themselves as Christians, taking their own side, fighting for a future that resembles the past, fighting for our progeny so they resemble our ancestors, okay?
Fighting for our sacred traditions, our holidays, fighting for a place where we feel like we belong, fighting for our home.
And Tucker says, well, in response to your question about Nick Fuentes and how he's going to impact the right wing, he says, well, I think all those issues are not resonant, not salient.
They don't matter.
Race, ethnicity, religion.
He says, even to an extent, immigration doesn't matter as much as economics.
He says, the main frustration among young people is not that the composition of the country, the demographics are changing, but the main concern is the lack of economic opportunity for young people.
Older people don't acknowledge that.
I think most future conversations politically are about economics.
And he's doing something else here, too, because obviously, My audience is a young audience.
It's a generational phenomenon as well.
I don't have much appeal among boomers.
My fans are all extremely online, very engaged, bright young people.
And so that's the phenomenon.
And Tucker says, why are all these, why does Nick Fuentes and his ideas have cachet among young people?
It's because of the lack of economic opportunity for them.
And why are we blindsided by Nick Fuentes?
Because the older people don't know about the economic problems the young people face.
So, what's he doing here?
Well, he's effectively deflecting and dismissing everything.
Here are the Groypers and the young people saying, women need to shut the fuck up.
Blacks need to be in prison.
Jews are running the country.
These are the problems.
Here I am saying, look, the women don't shut up.
Feminism is ruining everything.
Immigration is ruining everything.
Black people commit all the crime.
Jews are running the show, and that's why it is the way it is.
And Tucker is saying, oh, that.
Oh, well, they're just mad because they don't have jobs.
Yeah, yeah.
And if you're old and you don't understand what they're saying, it's because you don't realize that they don't have jobs.
And that's the real reason they're mad.
That's the main issue.
All that other stuff is just a way they're expressing it, it's just a phase.
They're not really mad that they're becoming a minority.
Yeah, we're not really mad about diversity and black crime and the rest of it.
No, we're mad because we don't have jobs and we're just going through a phase, says Tucker.
She comes back, the interviewer.
She says, Do you see that as Fuentes' power waning?
Tucker responds, For sure.
I don't know about Fuentes in particular, but he has been caricatured as a race guy.
He was mad about the Jews or black people or whatever.
But I'm just telling you, I think the future, the energy, not just on the right, but I think right and left agree on this under 30, is that young people have been shafted by older people, particularly by the baby boomers.
And I hear young people talk not about, I'm mad about the Jews.
I hear people say things like, only baby boomers would have a second home in Isle of Palms, South Carolina, but not help their kids buy homes.
Tucker seriously said, I'm reading this from a script.
Tucker said, I hear young people talk not about, I'm mad at the Jews.
So young people are not saying that at all.
Tucker says, I hear those young people say things like, only baby boomers would have a second home in Isle of Palm, South Carolina, and not help their kids buy homes.
Really?
So, if I go on Instagram today, if I go and create an Instagram account and I load up reels and I start liking right wing content, I'm going to see a lot of Instagram reels about Isle of Palms, South Carolina.
And I'm not going to see any content about Jews.
You're telling me if I go on Twitter or TikTok or Instagram, or I go to a college campus and a young Republican meeting, if I talk to a young person, you know, you go to your boomer relatives, talk to their nephews, grandchildren.
And you say, what are you thinking about?
They're not going to say Jews.
They're going to say boomers with their real estate.
Does anybody believe that?
Does anybody even believe that you believe that?
Do you believe that?
Do people really believe you believe that?
You don't even believe that.
Are you kidding me?
No, everybody is talking about the Jews, everybody is talking about Israel, everybody is talking about race.
The right and the left, both.
He says the right and the left are talking about housing.
Yeah, sure.
Maybe Ezra Klein is talking about housing.
Everybody else is talking about Israel.
Everybody else is talking about Gaza, Iran.
Everybody else is talking about how odious Mark Levin and Laura Loomer are.
They're talking about the ADL.
They're talking about AIPAC.
No, they're not all talking about baby boomers and Isle of Palms.
This sounds like JD Vance's mentor, David Frum, who wrote an article in The Atlantic and said that JD Vance was being groomed in the early 2010s to steer the GOP away from xenophobia and racism and white identity and into talking about the white working class and how they were screwed over and don't have economic opportunity and they need to stop blaming immigrants and they need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
In other words, it sounds like hillbilly elegy.
What Tucker just said don't blame immigrants for the lack of economic opportunity, don't lean into race and identity, don't lean into culture war.
That sounds like the thesis of hillbilly elegy, which JD Vance was basically given a sinecure at Peter Thiel's venture capital firm so that he could go and promote that to the elites on CNN and at the Aspen Institute.
And his fellowship in the American Enterprise Institute.
It sounds like David Frum's idea of JD Vance's political trajectory, where Frum said that Vance would deliver the GOP from the nativist base impulses of the Republican electorate and deliver them towards something more productive, something where we talk about the climate and America has a policeman's role in the world and all these other kinds of things.
It sounds exactly like that.
It's also just not even true.
None of that is true.
You're telling me that the only thing that is going on is there's a lack of economic opportunity and we happen to blame the immigrants?
That's not what is happening at all.
Dallas is ground zero for the Indian invasion of America.
It's all H 1Bs, it's all these Indians, and anyone who lives there will tell you it is ruining their quality of life.
Anyone will tell you all these new developments, all the new construction, it's all being bought up.
By rich Indians, and they fucking ruin everything.
And the people in LA and Houston will tell you the same thing about Hispanics.
When you go to Houston, why is it dangerous now?
Venezuelan gangs, immigrants.
LA is majority minority.
It's like 80% non white, and it's a dump.
Okay?
You go to Chicago, you go to New York.
Is the problem a lack of economic opportunity?
Or is that black people have made public transportation and Grant Park and Millennium Park?
Uninhabitable.
They're no go zones.
McDonald's doesn't want to be in Fulton Market anymore.
They don't want to be in West Loop anymore because they can't get their vice presidents to move here because nobody wants to be in Chicago because it's too dangerous because of the black people.
And they're not even immigrants.
They don't even have anything to do with the job market.
So, no, that's not true.
The changing composition of the country is everything.
And here's how you know that's the case I think absolutely anybody.
Especially anybody that watches my show would prefer that we undergo another great recession or great depression if we could be in a white country.
Everybody, anybody that watches my show would certainly prefer that we undergo a great depression or a great recession if it meant that we could have some semblance of a white country again.
Everybody knows that's true.
So, no, it's not about economic opportunity.
We would all prefer to have a smaller house.
And maybe a smaller TV and a smaller backyard and a smaller car.
And maybe we eat out less than we did before.
And by that, I mean restaurants.
And I don't mean box, like Tucker, another favorite of Tucker's.
Disgusting.
Mind out of the gutter.
We would all prefer to have less if it meant we could have more white neighbors.
We would all prefer to have less stuff if we could have more society, more coherence, more of a social fabric.
And that comes from familiarity.
That's where the word family comes from.
It's familial, it's familiar.
We look like each other.
We talk like each other.
We like each other.
So, none of that is the first of all, this bears a striking resemblance to all the rhetoric that has come out of the teal verse where they're talking about a colorblind meritocracy.
Yeah, fuck that.
Remember when they were pushing a colorblind meritocracy?
We're going to have like a non racist capitalist country.
Yeah, Indians, welcome.
Indians and Vietnamese and Malays, welcome.
Mexicans, welcome.
As long as we have a colorblind meritocracy, remember they called it multiracial working class populism?
Yeah, workers of the world unite, black, brown, white.
If you're sick of the Democrats' tax and spend agenda, Steve Bannon and us are going to, and Trump are going to cut the capital gains or increase the capital gains tax to pay for more welfare or something like that.
It sounds like all this garbage that has come out of Joe Kent, JD Vance, the Tealverse, All these people, Tucker Carlson's show on Fox for years.
And this is what they consistently do they downplay race, they downplay religion, they downplay all of that, and they say it's all just about economics.
Everything else is a distraction.
That's not real.
That's the SPLC, that's the feds.
You're a fed if you talk about race, you're a left wing plant if you talk about race.
No one really wants that.
That's not even real.
What did he say about replacement migration?
He said it's a voting rights issue.
Why is it a problem that America will be minority white?
Because it's voting.
It's all about voting.
All these immigrants are going to be able to vote, and they don't care about America as much as heritage America.
They're always trying to workshop some convoluted way where we're against immigration, but not because it's about race.
It's about everything else economics, voting.
It's about the legality of it, some other thing.
Here's where it gets good, though.
So then they talk about JD Vance, and you're going to see how these things come together.
So then it gets a little bit weird.
Interviewer starts asking Tucker about JD Vance.
And just so you know, Tucker and JD Vance are in bed together, okay?
And they have been.
Tucker Carlson has known Peter Thiel for 35 years.
Tucker says that he never, this is inside information.
Tucker says that he never makes a big life decision without first talking to Peter Thiel.
I've heard that firsthand.
He never makes a big life decision without calling Peter Thiel.
He says that Peter Thiel's really misunderstood.
He's actually one of the most brilliant people around.
He's known Peter Thiel since 1992.
Tucker and Thiel are like this.
So are Peter Thiel and JD Vance.
As you know, Peter Thiel got JD Vance's first job in Silicon Valley.
Then Thiel got Vance's first job in venture capital.
Then Thiel hired Vance at his venture capital firm.
Then Thiel funded JD Vance's venture capital firm.
Then Peter Thiel gave JD Vance $15 million to run for Senate.
And Teal got Trump to endorse him, even though JD Vance was an ever Trumper.
So, Peter Thiel and JD Vance are like this, and Tucker and Peter Thiel are like this.
And when JD Vance was running for Senate in Ohio, Tucker had him on his show 45 times to promote him.
JD Vance founded a venture capital firm called 1789 Capital, an offshoot of that.
I'm sorry, he founded Rockbridge Network, an offshoot of Rockbridge called 1789 Capital, gave Tucker Carlson $10, $15 million in seed money to found the Tucker Carlson Network.
Tucker Carlson's son Buckley works in JD Vance's press office.
Okay.
So these people are all deeply connected with each other, and there's something going on there.
Just so you understand.
So, this New York Times intrepid reporter, she asked Vance about some of this.
And it gets very bizarre very quickly.
See if he can understand why.
So, the interviewer says, Are you still close to Vance considering your rupture with the president?
Tucker says, I will always love JD Vance as a man.
I think, and I'm making this judgment on the basis of his public statements over many years, I think he's in a tough spot.
He's on the record repeatedly saying this is exactly the thing this administration would avoid doing, and now they've done it.
The interviewer says, When was the last time you spoke to the vice president?
Tucker says, Oh, I don't know.
But I wouldn't want to add to his problems at all.
I would just say what's obvious, which is that I'm hardly an advisor to this administration.
And I think it's also clear that Donald Trump makes these decisions.
It's like a weird political answer.
When's the last time he talked to Vance?
I don't know.
I don't want to hurt him.
I'm not an advisor at all.
Trump is in control.
She presses him.
You really don't know the last time you spoke to Vice President JD Vance?
However, he has felt privately, publicly, Vance has been a loyal soldier, even going so far as to head the recent negotiations with the Iranians.
And we've seen and you've commented how unpopular the war is among the American people.
Do you think the role that he is playing now will hurt his?
Political prospects?
Tucker.
There are people in the White House who want to hurt JD Vance and have wanted that since the very first day.
They are bitter.
They wanted Marco Rubio to be the choice as vice president.
And so J.D. has been subject to this is well known, but I'll confirm it nonstop treachery from people on the neocon side.
Who are these people?
Says the interviewer.
Tucker says people around Marco Rubio.
Certainly he's the choice of the donor class.
The donor class is avowedly neoconservative.
That's why they give money for outcomes like the ones we're watching.
And they have been totally against Vance from the very beginning and have been working to undermine him.
Who do you mean specifically?
She says, because it was interesting in those conversations with Susie Wiles, for example, where she was very much praising Rubio and had less complimentary things to say about Vance.
People want to move to America because we're judged on what we did, on our meritocracy, not our parents, not blood guilt.
Okay, what?
That doesn't make any sense at all.
I don't know what that has to do with anything.
I thought the blood guilt speech was about Gaza.
Which is the idea that Israel shouldn't kill children because their parents like voted for Hamas or something.
I thought that is what that was about.
But then it became about something else.
Then when people started to criticize Israel and say, hey, wait a second, I think there's something going on with Jews, then Tucker brought that out again and said, that's also blood guilt.
Because if you believe that Jewishness has something to do with Israel, then you're blaming all Jews for the actions of some Jews.
And that's a form of blood guilt.
And that's wrong too.
You following this?
Now, if you say to Tucker Carlson, hey, so about your son working for the vice president, what's going on there?
Oh, now that's blood guilt too.
So it started with Israel killing children in Gaza is wrong because they don't inherit the sins of their parents that voted for Hamas.
Then it became we can't talk about the Jewish dimension to our Israel problem because to say that it has something to do with the Jewish religion or Jewish ethnicity would be anti Semitism.
That's a form of blood guilt.
Now, if you say, Tucker's son works for Vance.
Tucker got him that job.
It tethers Tucker to Vance because of Tucker's friendship with Vance.
Now that's blood.
Now we can't ask about that.
Hey, what's the deal with your son working for Vance?
Blood guilt, blood guilt.
Our civilization is founded on the idea that my son can work for whatever vice president he wants and no one can ask me about it.
This civilization is founded on the idea that any millionaire CIA agent's son can work for any vice president.
And the New York Times cannot ask about it.
That's not decent.
Really?
Fuck you.
Let's just drop the act.
Let's cut the shit, okay?
Your daddy ran Voice of America.
Your daddy, Silver Spoon Boy, okay?
Your daddy ran Voice of America for the CIA.
He ran US propaganda for the CIA.
He was a Reagan appointee.
You live down the street from the officer that overthrew Mossadegh in the CIA in Iran in the 50s, okay?
You have worked your entire career for Rupert Murdoch.
For Rupert Murdoch.
The same person you're saying is out to get JD Vance.
Your whole career, you've been in bed with Peter Thiel, who's apparently been advising you.
He's a CIA contractor with Palantir since 9 11.
And your son works for JD Vance, who is a Manchurian candidate.
For Peter Thiel, the CIA contractor.
And if anybody talks about this, we're going to get a speech about blood guilt.
We're going to get a speech about how we should all just be nice to everybody.
Don't talk about my daddy who was in the CIA.
Don't talk about it.
That's attacking my family.
And don't talk about my son who works for JD Vance.
That's blood guilt.
It's getting a little stale.
You know, it's getting a little old and it's pressing, you're pushing the bounds of.
Credulity on that one.
I don't believe you.
Nobody believes you.
None of that makes any sense.
You don't know when the last time you talked to the vice president was.
You don't know who's out to get him.
You don't know why your son was fired from his office.
I don't believe you.
You're lying.
You got him that job.
It's a sinecure.
You're the most famous influencer conservative in America.
Your son worked for Jim Banks, who's a fucking spook, and now he works for JD Vance.
And you want us to believe that you had nothing to do with it and you still don't?
That's just insulting because here's the difference.
You want to talk about the lack of economic opportunity for young people?
I know a long, long, long line of young white men that are better looking than your son, smarter than your son, more qualified than your son, went to better schools than your son, and they can't get an interview.
You want to know why?
Because their dad is in Tucker Carlson.
They can't get an interview, let alone they're going to be in Jim Banks' office and every intern is going to be jacking them off because it's Buckley Carlson.
And they certainly don't get to work in the vice president's office with JD Vance.
And then you want to deign to tell us about the revolutionary violence because of how the elites don't understand the economic plight of young men while you simultaneously tell us immigration's not real, race isn't real, Jews aren't real.
No one's talking about Jews, it's about the baby boomers.
Saying that Vance shouldn't be president because he's married to an Indian.
This was some of Tucker's response.
He says, quote, race is thrown up as a distraction so often, as in this case, to distract from what actually matters.
Fuentes himself is a distraction from the conversations that matter because power is displayed through the structure of the economic system globally and per country and in the use of force.
And so, Washington's response, Wall Street's response, is to be like, let's have a race war and you guys can argue over blacks and whites or that JD is married to an Indian woman.
So, Fuentes is incredibly useful for people with actual power to divert the conversation to something that is irrelevant and divisive because it's a divide and conquer strategy.
This economic system is hurting young people.
And so, Fuentes shows up, and everyone wants to talk about Fuentes because it's really safe.
No one wants to talk about why are the capital gains taxes half of those of tax on regular income.
No one ever talked about the rich paying their fair share?
No one ever talked about a wealth tax?
No one ever talked about a VAT tax?
No one ever talked about eating the rich, raising taxes on the rich, Eisenhower's 90% marginal?
Really?
No one ever talked about that?
No one ever talked about wealth inequality?
No one ever talked about income inequality?
No one ever talked about.
No one ever talked about the carried interest provision.
Nobody ever.
Are you kidding me?
No one ever talked about millionaires and billionaires until Tucker came along.
And the real problem is that I'm distracting from that by talking about Jewish oligarchy and white genocide.
That's the easy conversation that everybody wants to have.
Everybody wants to talk about our Jewish oligarchy.
Everybody wants to talk about white genocide.
Everybody wants it to have this.
Very comfortable conversation about how whites are being outnumbered by non whites everywhere and all the problems that come from that.
Everybody wants to talk about the conspicuously Jewish nature of our entire system and their perverse system that they've created to influence our country.
Those are the easy distractions that everyone wants to shine a light on.
The stuff that nobody wants to talk about, the hard, difficult conversations are why the rich will not pay their fair share.
Why will the millionaires and billionaires not pay more in tax?
Are you aware that Amazon paid no taxes one year?
And how about all these poor workers?
Will someone please think of cutting the taxes on the workers?
He says, I wish I hadn't done the Fuentes interview.
Well, you know, that's a really hurtful thing to say.
Now, what are you just trying to hurt my feelings?
You know, if you told me I'm a distraction, I'm a useful idiot for the elites so that they won't have to talk about Occupy Wall Street, you want to say I'm the race guy caricatured for talking about blacks and Jews, you know, that's fine.
But when you say you wish you never interviewed me, now I feel like you're just trying to hurt my feelings.
Now I feel like you're just trying to antagonize me.
It was kind of interesting, I guess, but I added to the distraction.
What I really wanted to talk about was where we were going in this war with Iran.
And I spent like a month getting calls from people being like, you're a Nazi.
And I wish I hadn't done that.
It didn't imperil my soul.
I've interviewed far worse people.
Like Mike Huckabee.
Far worse person than Nick Fuentes hurt many more people than Nick Fuentes.
Same with Ted Cruz.
So I don't think it affected me.
I interview people I disagree with all the time, and often I'm polite to them, including war criminals.
So, this is your Tucker interview.
And this paints a picture for you of what is happening in the American right.
Okay, you're clearly seeing the contours here, which is that Tucker is in the pocket with JD Vance.
He's in, they are in somebody's pocket.
They are a part of a clique, they are a part of something.
Tucker says, I love JD Vance.
He's a good man.
I just don't want to hurt him.
I don't even remember the last time we talked.
Dude, his son worked for him.
Clearly, they're in bed together.
And Tucker hates me.
Tucker says, I'm not that popular.
I have no power.
Everything I say is a distraction, it's misdirected energy.
Race and religion don't matter.
I have no real impact on the conversation.
It's all about economics.
He says, I'm a Fed.
All these other disparaging things about me.
Simultaneously propping up Vance, simultaneously dismissing me.
But you map onto that also this ideological divide where Tucker says the real issue is the economic system.
Those are the real issues.
And they're only expressed or misdirected towards race, religion.
What's really happening in the real future and the real wave is the discontent over the lack of economic opportunity.
Suffice to say, Vance is the remedy.
Vance is going to give us our colorblind meritocracy where the young people can buy houses and get jobs and that the other stuff doesn't matter.
And obviously, the inverse of this is that I am the problem.
I am hurting Vance.
I am not a fan of Vance.
I'm taking support from Vance.
And I'm taking support from Vance in the service of something that is either the agenda of the elites, and this is meant to distract from the fact that the masses don't support their economic and national security agenda, or I'm just a misguided young person who just has it wrong.
And what I really Am about is that the housing market is unaffordable and there's no jobs, and I just have the wrong idea.
I'm leading everybody astray.
And you could see very clearly that this is where they want to take it.
They want Vance to be in the White House and they don't want to do anything about immigration.
They don't want to do anything about Israel.
They don't want to do anything about any of these things.
Do you think when JD Vance gets elected that they're going to address H 1Bs?
Why would they?
All the tech people that support Vance need H 1Bs.
Never going to happen.
You think when Vance gets elected, they're going to build the border wall?
They're not building it now.
You think he's going to keep us out of Iran?
They can't keep us out of Iran right now.
Tucker says the neocons don't want Vance to be the president.
Really?
The same neocons that were 100% behind his ticket with Trump?
The neocons that he spoke to at the Quincy Institute when he put a pro Israel spin on America first?
It's just ridiculous.
His chief of staff, Jacob Reeses, who is a Jewish Zionist?
What are you talking about?
This is where they're trying to take it.
And they, people like Tucker and Teal and Vance and Musk and all these people that are part of this thing, whatever it is, they see me as a massive inconvenience.
I am a massive thorn in their side because I'm the only one that is telling the truth about this stuff.
I'm out here doing this dumbass show telling people, yeah, it's about the Jews.
It is a Jewish problem, it is a Jewish oligarchy.
It's not the secular government of Israel's policies under Netanyahu.
No, we have a Jewish oligarchy.
And yes, it is about race.
It's not a lack of economic opportunity.
We're a minority in our own country, and it's miserable.
You understand.
If you have kids in a public school, if you live in a working or middle class neighborhood, if you live in and around a major metro area, if you have a job anywhere, if you ever have to deal with customer service, if you've ever driven on an interstate, on a highway, you know, yes, the problem is an identity problem.
It's a demographic problem.
No, it's not just the jobs.
The job market happens to be bad.
But that is not our antipathy towards immigration and Demographic change is not a transmutation of that problem.
That's a byproduct of it.
That's just a negative externality of the real problem, which is the immigration.
And so I think that Tucker brought me on.
I don't even know why, but it seems like it was to neutralize me.
Tucker and Vance are in league.
It's very clear last year that I was gathering steam and I was becoming more popular, and I might be a problem for Vance in 28, and I might even be a problem for Tucker.
And so I'm sure they brought me in to try to neutralize me so that I would not be an adversary.
And when it became clear that I didn't stand down, when it became clear that I stuck to my guns, then they threw me right back under the bus.
And it turned into, oh, actually, it was an intervention.
It wasn't an interview, it was an intervention.
And Tucker now says, I brought him on the show so that he could run his mouth and expose himself.
And I brought him on the show to confront him over his anti Semitism.
And I gave him the speech about blood guilt.
And he just won't listen.
And so he's still a problem.
And that's very clearly what is going on here.
And I would just say about all of it, I'm not in this so that we can elect a CIA agent.
I don't trust Vance.
I don't trust Tucker.
These people are liars.
Tucker is a liar.
Vance is a liar.
Nobody even knows what they actually believe.
Tucker says in the same interview, he said, I never criticized Israel in my entire career until two years ago.
We don't even know who you are.
We have no idea who you really are, what you really believe, who you really work for.
I don't even know what the fuck you are.
I don't know who Vance is.
Who is JD Vance?
10 years ago, he voted for Evan McMullen, a CIA agent.
15 years ago, he was mentored by David Frum, a neocon speechwriter for George W. Bush.
10 years ago, he wrote an article dedicated to Barack Obama about how smart he was and why people hate him because they're jealous that he's smarter than they are.
He wrote a book called Hillbilly Elegy about how he married an Indian immigrant as a fuck you to his loser family that couldn't get out of their own way.
Hillbilly Elegy is about how white people are blaming everybody else for their problems.
They need to get to work and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Stop blaming international trade and mass migration.
Now JD Vance is going to be the standard bearer of America first.
Now he's going to be the leader of the movement, and the Groypers are going to fall in line behind him.
Tucker's dad ran Voice of America for the CIA.
Tucker and his gap year is in Nicaragua fighting with the Contras after the Iran Contras affair.
We're not supposed to talk about that.
That's attacking his family.
You want to talk about elites being out of touch, youth unemployment?
You tell us you don't know why your Nepo baby son works for Vance?
I mean, are you kidding me?
We don't even know who these people are.
They are liars.
They insult our intelligence daily.
And it works because most people are pretty dumb.
But I don't trust them.
I don't trust Tucker.
I don't trust Vance.
I don't trust Peter Thiel.
I don't, these people are weird.
These people are not like me.
I am from Chicago.
Who's this kid from Chicago?
Yeah, I'm from Chicago.
Okay, my grandparents were on Taylor Street.
My dad grew up on the West Side.
My mom grew up in Melrose Park.
I'm a real American.
I don't know who you are.
I didn't take a gap year in Nicaragua with the Contras.
I didn't accompany my dad to fucking Pakistan.
Okay, I didn't work for the Weekly Standard.
I didn't work for Fox News for 20 years before I woke up and realized there's something going on with Israel one day.
I don't have any contracts with the CIA.
I'm not obsessed with the Antichrist like these other people.
Okay.
I don't know what any of that is about.
These people are not like me.
These people are not like me.
I don't know what they are.
I don't know what they're about.
And by the way, I never got a contract.
I never got a jersey.
These people want me and the Groypers to be on the team.
Why won't all of you just join up with Vance?
Don't you realize, blah, blah, blah?
Hey, listen, pal, I'm not being paid.
I never signed a contract.
I'm not wearing a fucking jersey.
You want to let me in on the master plan?
I got people all the time telling me, you know, Vance is actually great.
You just got to give him a chance.
Well, you know what?
If there's some master plan, nobody told me.
I didn't get invited to Skull Island and get the blueprint.
I didn't get the schematics on how Vance is going to deliver everybody.
I didn't get let in on this story.
So they're always telling me, you know, Vance is our guy.
You just got to trust it.
You got to get behind him.
You're really becoming a problem for us.
Well, I'm not wearing a jersey, and none of these people are ever nice to me, and they never help me.
I think the corrupt Criminal government of Trump needs to be slowed down.
We need to impeach the orange.
It's time to put this nigga in a peach.
Trump needs to be placed inside of a crystal.
He needs to be impeached.
This fat orange, tiny hands, needs to be impeached.
And then in 28, no Vance, no Rubio.
We have to burn down the whole party.
We need to elect a dark horse who's going to put America first.
I'm not listening to anybody else.
No Vance, no Rubio, America first.
And that is all that matters anymore.
That is the only thing that matters.
I'm not voting for a Democrat unless they're really, unless it's like me, unless it's a Nick Fuentes Democrat.
Unless a Nick Fuentes Democrat wins the nomination, I won't vote for a Democrat.
I'm never Vance.
I'm never Rubio.
I'm an America First guy.
So Tucker and all the rest of them, they're going to try to shut me down.
They're going to try to get Vance in there in 28.
And you got to be, you got to widen up and realize we got to take our own side here.
None of this nonsense.
I can't even, it disgusts me.
It's like you're not even talking to a human being.
This guy is like an alien life form.
Who even is this person?
Who does that?
We eat dinner.
He invites me out.
First of all, so manipulative.
The guy is just like, this guy is a fucking cop.
Me and Tucker have this feud for years.
I do this big show exposing him.
He calls me on the phone and he's like, sorry, I got so mad at you.
Yeah, my dad is in the CIA.
I didn't know.
I just got the paperwork after he died.
And I'm just really upset about it.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I'm like, well, yeah, like you want to talk about how he tried to ruin my life with the Joe Kent thing?
And he's like, no, I don't want to talk about that.
I'm like, okay.
Then he invites me on the show.
We go to dinner.
He's very friendly.
We have dinner for like four hours.
He's nothing but friendly, nothing but nice, but he's also like grilling me about stuff.
We do the show.
You saw the show, it was very friendly.
He didn't press me at all.
He texts me after the show.
Hey man, really enjoyed that.
So interesting.
I'm really glad we did it.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then he goes and is motherfucking me every day since, going on every interview saying, I invited him on my show so that he could run his mouth and expose himself what a bad person he is because he hates women and he's an anti Semite.
And I tried to do an intervention.
I tried to tell him that anti Semitism was wrong, but it didn't work.
I regret the interview.
He's a distraction.
I fell for.
It's like, no, bro, you tried to knock me off.
You failed.
Clearly, you're a manipulative liar.
Clearly, everything you say is a lie, and you're a manipulative liar.
That phone call was a little trick.
The interview was a little trick.
You clearly were trying to knock me off.
It didn't work.
It hurt you, and it helped me.
Now you're upset about that because it's hurting your boy, Vance.
Now you want to come out and say, oh, I regret it.
I should have never done it.
He's just a big distraction.
That's just politics, guys.
That's how politics works.
But I guess the takeaway here about that aspect of it is this.
People are always telling me, hey, come on, man, Tucker's a good guy.
Hey, come on, man, you and Tucker agree on everything.
Hey, come on, Tucker said some base things last week.
Here's what you need to understand these people in politics are not like us, they're not real people.
They all have an agenda.
Okay?
So when people look at these influencers and they say, Hey, come on, he's like a good dude or something.
It's like, dude, he's a performer.
That's like watching The Office and saying, Dwight's a really nice guy.
It's like, dude, that's an actor.
That is an actor with a real name and a real address playing a role and reading a script on TV.
It's the same thing with Tucker.
And so you need to understand these are not relationships of affinity.
Me and Tucker are not going to be buddies because we like each other, because I like the cut of his jib.
We get along and we're there for each other.
It ain't like that, okay?
At the best, it's a competitive media market and it's capitalistic and we're competing for the same audience.
At the worst, we are in some kind of spy game.
He is involved with the intelligence apparatus.
I represent a threat to some kind of weird power thing going on there.
And he is trying to neutralize me.
Everything he says to me, he's not looking to be my buddy.
He's not looking out for me.
He's not trying to be my mentor.
He doesn't care about my well being.
It's not about affinity whether we like each other, whether we're going to bump each other on the elbow and say, hey, come on, pal, let's get a drink.
These people have been in politics for generations and they pass the knowledge down and they help each other out.
They are on a different team.
So they know and we don't.
They participate and we're not participants.
So you need to get that through your head, though.
Like we really and truly are a team animated against this cabal, this clique that, you know, you can try to discern it, but it's going to take us a long time to really understand it because all we have is what we can read on the internet.
They're in it and they've been in it and they have those relationships for generations.
We're on Twitter.
It's asymmetrical.
We are at a disadvantage.
Recognize that.
You don't have to be smarter than them.
You just have to be smart enough to know that they know more than you.
You understand the difference?
We don't have to necessarily be smarter than Tucker.
We don't need to know everything Tucker knows, but we do need to recognize there's an asymmetry and that needs to come with it some skepticism.
Wait a second.
I'm only getting the open source information on Twitter.
All your friends are in the CIA.
I don't trust you.
You know things I don't know.
Why are you talking to me?
You're manipulating me.
That's the kind of mindset you need.
Why is Tucker always on his show saying, you know, and I know that for a fact.
I have sources.
Netanyahu said this, and I know that.
It's like, how do you know that?
We don't know that.
What are we going to take your word for that?
We're on Twitter.
All your butt, Joe Ken and Vance and Peter Thiel, they're all in the CIA.
So, what is that?
So, anyway, that's the interview.
Those are my thoughts on the whole thing.
Like I said, this is very important stuff because this is how we are going to get along in politics.
This is the mode, but it's also the substance of it, too.
It's the mode of how we're going to get along and make our political change, but it's also the substance of what the political change is.
And it is having to do with the Jewish issue, race.
Like, obviously, these things are salient, and you have a very powerful arm trying to tell us.
No, no, it's all about economic opportunity.
The last thing I'll say about it is this, then we'll take a look at the super chats.
You remember when Tucker had on Nayland Haley on his show?
Nikki Haley's son.
And what did Nayland Haley say on the show?
He said the same thing.
He said, It's all about economics.
It's all economic issues, blah, blah.
And then the Free Press, Barry Weiss's paper, did a profile on Nayland Haley saying that he is what word did they use to describe him?
They said that he is a, oh, they had some word in there about it.
It was like he's the standard bearer or something like that, something to that effect.
Like he's the leader of the young people.
People are looking up to him.
It's like, nigga, what people?
Where are Nayland Haley's fans?
He doesn't have a show.
He doesn't make content.
What are you talking about?
The free press, owned by Barry Weiss, funded by Peter Thiel and Andreessen Horowitz and Joe Lonsdale, they did a whole profile on how Nayland Haley is going to be the figure for Gen Z, who was interviewed by Tucker after me, talking about how it's all economics.
Once you see it, you're just like Neo in the Matrix.
You just dodge all the bullets, you see all the agents.
You bend the spoon.
Some people want to eat their holographic meatloaf.
They want to eat their holographic steak.
It still tastes like steak.
I want to check out.
But that's once you see it, you can't unsee what is happening here.
So, anyway, I do want to move on.
I want to get into our super chats.
We'll see what you guys have to say.
I think we've been live for about an hour and a half.
So, yeah, we'll save the Iran stuff for tomorrow because there's a lot to cover on that too.
Okay, we're going to get set up.
We'll see what you guys have to say about all this.
Let me get my earbuds in here and we'll take a look.
But the Groybets have really been there for me, you know, because you just look at all the low IQ stuff and you just look at the war in Iran and you're just like, wow, I should just flip burgers somewhere or something.
I need to just, I don't know, go somewhere else.
So I appreciate the Groybets have really been holding me up.
The Groybets holding me up in their righteous hands.
Maybe it's a sign.
I appreciate that maybe one of them, maybe I'll choose one of them.
The Groybets have really been holding me up.
With their love, with their edits, with their unrequited affection.
Love the Groyp.
The Groypets, you know, they're making me hate women a little bit less.
I'm like, wow, you know, these women have really been here for me.
Join all those other people on the other side of the world doing exactly the same thing that you're doing at home going out to eat, shopping, looking at the sites, the attractions.
Can't be too aggressive, you know, but hey, maybe slowly but surely, you know, she's liking some of the tweets.
She watched a clip on the show.
Maybe she's coming around.
You know, life is so short.
Life is so, so short.
And, you know, when somebody like me and Candace are meant to be together, oceans, oceans and distance and animosity and like weird ambush interviews and misunderstandings.
None of that can get between two people that, you know, genuinely are destined to be together as friends, as friends because she is married.
No, but we love Candace.
You know, maybe one of these days.
Maybe one of these days, but yeah.
No, white pilled again.
I saw that and I was like, wow, white pilled again.
What do they mean when they say the main focus is the economy is that so long as all of us lower class idiots are comfortable enough, we will ignore everything that really kills the country?