March 19, 2024 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's okay, it's all right, I'm fine, it's not the end It's okay, it's alright, we're fine, it's just not the end. | ||
| Lay me down where I can sleep. | ||
| Hold me close, don't say a thing. | ||
| It's okay, it's alright, we're fine, no one has been killed. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine, it's safe, they're friends too. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| I sing this movie a thousand times. | ||
| Guess which one of us will die? | ||
| Rock, let's play. | ||
| It's over, this is the end. | ||
| Let the record fade. | ||
| I'll never see you again. | ||
| Rock, let's play. | ||
| The movie's over and last. | ||
| Let the screen cut to black. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| Rock, let's let's play. | ||
| There's a bottle of it in my bed. | ||
| I would love it if you count me out. | ||
| I hope that this is you something. | ||
| Skies I feel deep inside. | ||
| At least I know that I am dead. | ||
| I'm out of mind, it's hard to find love from where I started. | ||
| I'm out of maze, I'm in a daze, I had too much McCarty. | ||
| I'm fucking spinning out of knees, you know how to tell me nothing. | ||
| The street aroma leaves me home, I'm brittle balls, I rush you. | ||
| I love it when you throw me out and tell me how it's always got some money. | ||
| That's my only inspiration. | ||
| Now when I get out and figure out that I can live casually, I just fall in desperation. | ||
| I've been waiting in the same damn place all my life. | ||
| I would love it if you count me out. | ||
| It leaves me to be in my head. | ||
| Taking every route I take. | ||
| There's a bottle of it in my bed. | ||
| I would love it if you count me out. | ||
| I hope that this to you sounds good. | ||
| I hope that this to you sounds good. | ||
| It leaves me to be in my head. | ||
| I hope that this to you sounds good. | ||
| Cause you're such a heavenly sight. | ||
| I don't understand why this isn't right. | ||
| I want you to the very end. | ||
| I need you so I can't understand. | ||
| I'll see the smell on my mind. | ||
| Help me get it out tonight. | ||
| I'll see you next time. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| I'll see you next time. | ||
| I'm ready for the love, I'm thinking everything, I'm thinking this again, never leave anything. | ||
| My heart won't regret it this time, I want to be a ceremonial lie. | ||
| Take me to the order and make me a bride. | ||
| Take me to the order and make me a cry, if it's not right, we'll just cut it off at the midnight. | ||
| If it's not right, we'll just call it off at the midnight. | ||
| Everything's fine, I wanna make it through your head. | ||
| And I'll see you inside, I want to make it through your head, if you're on the phone, make it better, I said. | ||
| If you're all alone, make it better, I said. | ||
| I don't understand and it makes you feel scared. | ||
| I don't understand how you make yourself scared, burying my feelings and I make that clear. | ||
| Burying my feelings in the neck that I can. | ||
| Your love is determined. | ||
| Your life is a time, crisis like a sky, I have my friends, come together and we're from outside. | ||
| Crisis like a star. | ||
| All my friends come together and it's all like a time. | ||
| I'm ready for my life, I'm thinking everything. | ||
| I'm ready for my life. | ||
| I'm forgetting everything. | ||
| I think I'm just a plan. | ||
| I think I'm just a plan, never give it again. | ||
| Never give it a minute. | ||
| I want you to the very end. | ||
| I need you so I can pretend. | ||
| All the fears are on my mind. | ||
| Help me get it outside. | ||
| I'm not going to fall in love. | ||
| I'm forgetting everything. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| Never means anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| Now we're talking to the street at night. | ||
| And she's giving me a piece of mind. | ||
| She says, but I'm not the one again. | ||
| But I think she left it when she said it. | ||
| If you want me, stop by letting me go. | ||
| I'm not going to be the end. | ||
| It's me, Nick Fuentes, back here with an afternoon RumbleStream. | ||
| Evening RumbleStream. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| We're gonna check the live chat. | ||
| Pop in the live chat, say what's up. | ||
| We'll see who's all here. | ||
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We got... FishDroiper. | |
| We got... WallStreetRetard. | ||
| Oh, hey buddy. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| We got YikesDepartment, KebabRemover, PooVibe. | ||
| What's up, PooVibe? | ||
| I haven't heard from him in a minute. | ||
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Arthur Friend. | |
| What's up everybody? | ||
| Spexo, hey! | ||
| BC Covington, nice. | ||
| Kruiper Burger. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| Welcome to the stream. | ||
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I'm a little bit sick. | |
| I'm under the weather. - Okay. | ||
| But we're gonna do a stream anyway. | ||
| So we're locked in. | ||
| We're gonna be watching this Candace Owens interview with a rabbi where Candace Owens has just been on a tear lately. | ||
| She has been in a full-fledged war against the Jews. | ||
| And specifically some of these Zionist rabbis. | ||
| And I've been watching Her evolution. | ||
| It's been remarkable to witness. | ||
| I covered it on my show last week. | ||
| So we'll be watching this debate. | ||
| We'll watch a little Star Wars. | ||
| New Star Wars trailer. | ||
| It's total fucking AIDS. | ||
| We can have nothing. | ||
| You will own nothing. | ||
| You will be happy. | ||
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Well, I'm not happy. | |
| So we'll watch the Star Wars trailer. | ||
| We'll play a little Call of War. | ||
| And if anything else comes up, you know, maybe we'll watch something else, but that's probably gonna be our main content. | ||
| Before we get into it, smash the follow button here on Rumble, and I'm going to put out an update on Telegram just so people know that I'm live. | ||
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I'll let them know. | |
| Apparently people don't like the music. | ||
| There were a lot of people bitching about the music in the live chat during the lobby. | ||
| I'm just over it. | ||
| The Rumble live chat, fuck off, okay? | ||
| Every video I make, the Rumble comments, it's, Nick hates poor people, he's arrogant, and shut the fuck up. | ||
| Shut the fuck up, and fuck off. | ||
| Go watch some other content. | ||
| I'm so sick of you people, I can't stand it. | ||
| Every, look, it's like every video, I'll go on my channel, Uh, every video... that I do... I got people in the comments... Jesus was poor. | ||
| In Nick's eyes, if you're not seven figures, you're poor normie trash. | ||
| And Nick would have looked down on Jesus, called him dumb, low IQ, retard who should kill himself. | ||
| Just really let that sink in. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| Don't watch it. | ||
| If you don't like it, don't watch it. | ||
| Arrogance and hatred for his fellow man will be Nick's downfall. | ||
| No, you! | ||
| You will be my downfall! | ||
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Opposite! | |
| Opposite! | ||
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You will be the downfall! | |
| Complete opposite. | ||
| No, you know what's been my downfall? | ||
| Jews censoring me. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Arrogance and hatred for my fellow man propel me forward. | ||
| That's the only thing that keeps me getting out of bed. | ||
| If it wasn't for arrogance and my hatred of you, I would be in bed all day. | ||
| It's the Jews that are keeping me down. | ||
| IBF super mutant shitting on normies gets super old. | ||
| That's what makes me better. | ||
| High mutational load, it's why I'm high IQ. | ||
| You said it, super mutant, that's exactly right. | ||
| And you are normie trash, anyway. | ||
| So, yeah, so I see somebody is telling me, oh, your live chat is revolting against the music. | ||
| Somebody called it hip-hop? | ||
| I'm like, it's not even hip-hop. | ||
| It's alternative, you know, but you fucking idiots would want me to play Journey or something. | ||
| All these over 45 people watching this stream, they want to hear Journey. | ||
| They want to hear Bon Jovi. | ||
| They want to hear the same Boston album. | ||
| I'm sick of it. | ||
| You make me sick. | ||
| You make me sick. | ||
| That's why I'm sick. | ||
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This one. | |
| Bye. | ||
| The regular, I hate ear type rhetoric is exhausting. | ||
| It ruins otherwise great content. | ||
| Goes against your message to get down in the mud and act trashy. | ||
| You might say it's a joke, but I don't find acting like a bad person funny. | ||
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I don't find acting like a bad person funny. | |
| Be tactful. | ||
| Own and embarrass idiots in a tasteful way with class. | ||
| Class is for men. | ||
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Swag is for boys. | |
| Swag is for boys. | ||
| Class is for men. | ||
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You have to own them with class in a tasteful way. | |
| That doesn't mean you have to be a G-rated prude. | ||
| I don't think extremes in either direction is good. | ||
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Shut the fuck up and fuck off. | |
| Faggot. | ||
| I hate all of you. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| Who said it was a- you may say it's joking, whoever said it was a joke. | ||
| I can barely contain it. | ||
| I can barely contain my true feeling about you. | ||
| My true animosity and hatred. | ||
| Utter disdain. | ||
| I wouldn't describe it any other way other than pure contempt and utter disdain. | ||
| Distilled hatred and it's not a joke. | ||
| It's completely serious and I could barely hold it in So anyway So that's that so I just had to address that right at the outset We're gonna dive in the first thing. | ||
| I want to watch is this Star Wars trailer. | ||
| I Don't know if you've seen this this just came out So I want to react to this. | ||
| I know a lot of you guys are, oh, I don't watch Star Wars or Disney, but this stuff is important to me. | ||
| So I guess they came out, Disney has come out with a new show this June. | ||
| It's coming out on Disney Plus, Star Wars show. | ||
| It's set a hundred years before the Phantom Menace. | ||
| And I saw the trailer earlier today and it's all girls. | ||
| The whole thing is girls and blacks. | ||
| And, um, so we'll watch and react to it. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| It's just like a bad joke. | ||
| Really? | ||
| May the force be with you, nigga. | ||
| I'm so- I just can't even anymore. | ||
| Can we just not, though? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Everything's Dreads and there's one other character. | ||
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It's so classic. | |
| Some like black. | ||
| Yeah, look at this. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| Can we just fucking stop with this? | ||
| These are the characters. | ||
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That just depresses me. | |
| I wonder who even... | ||
| Well, we'll watch the trailer and then we'll... | ||
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We'll do a deep dive. | |
| We'll see what's going on here. | ||
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Who wrote this? | |
| Who wrote this trash? | ||
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Your eyes can deceive you. | |
| We must not trust them. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Even this, look. | ||
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Trust them. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Even this planet. | ||
| Black. | ||
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Asian. | |
| There's not one white guy in the whole group. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's not one white guy in the whole group. | ||
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Mind. | |
| Life. | ||
| Balance. | ||
| I see fire. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Where's the white guys? | ||
| Alien, Asian guy, white girl, black girl, alien. | ||
| Where's the white guys? | ||
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Where's the white Jedi? | |
| I'm so si- Every- You know, Keith Woods kind of had a point about this. | ||
| That the whole Dune II movie was just like Zendaya, like, brooding. | ||
| Staring off at the desert. | ||
| I feel like every movie now is just like a dumb bitch making a face. | ||
| just like I've had it man *gunshot* You got a black girl fighting a white girl. | ||
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someone is killing jedi It doesn't make sense. | |
| Oh, dude, it's the weekend? | ||
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Come on, dude. | |
| I hate everything. | ||
| This is what they've taken from us. | ||
| How is this even serious? | ||
| What's with the hair? | ||
| This is Star Wars. | ||
| And this is, uh, nigged up with earrings and the... whatever the hairstyle that is. | ||
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What happened? | |
| I sense the darkness. | ||
| This isn't about... | ||
| No dark. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
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This isn't about good or bad. | |
| This is about power. | ||
| Look at her hair. | ||
| Imagine the smell. | ||
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And who was allowed to use it? | |
| What is that? | ||
| I'm going to watch it, but it's going to suck. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why does it have to be this way? | ||
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All the comments are terrible. | |
| Let's see, I think it's a woman that wrote it. | ||
| Yeah, look at this. | ||
| This is the cast. | ||
| Daphne Keene, Amandla, Amandla Stenberg. | ||
| Amandla! | ||
| Amandla. | ||
| Is that a real name? | ||
| Lee... Is this guy from, um... Squid Games? | ||
| There's literally one white guy in the whole cast. | ||
| Or two, I guess. | ||
| I'll see. | ||
| Acolyte is an upcoming American television series created by Leslie Headland. | ||
| Oh, brother. | ||
| It's so over. | ||
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We're cooked. | |
| Is she a Jew? | ||
| Suburban Maryland. | ||
| Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant? | ||
| Nice. | ||
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What else has she done? | |
| Nice. | ||
| Nothing notable, looks like. | ||
| Notable works. | ||
| The Bachelorette. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| So she wrote for The Bachelorette. | ||
| And Russian Doll, what's that? | ||
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Looks dumb. | |
| And now she's doing Star Wars. | ||
| Amanda Stenberg and Lee Jung Jae star in the leading roles. | ||
| Set at the end of the High Republic era in a world of shadowy secrets, emerging dark side powers. | ||
| Set a hundred years before Phantom Menace. | ||
| See, that's what everybody wants. | ||
| Everybody wants to see the High Republic. | ||
| Everybody wants to see the prequel to the prequel. | ||
| They want to see before Phantom Menace. | ||
| We finally get it. | ||
| And it's a bunch of nigs and Asians and all this goofy stuff. | ||
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Very sad. | |
| Very sad. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Hedlund assembled the writer's room for the series by June 2021 with the group each having different relationships with the franchise Blah blah blah. | ||
| In May 2022, she said writing for the series was complete. | ||
| She said the female-centric series would have a female protagonist, but would not exclude male characters or audiences. | ||
| Great. | ||
| She also explained the series but introducing new characters and canon but she understood not all fans would like it This sucks Thank you. | ||
| Just why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would they do this? | ||
| Why would they do this to us? | ||
| It's so unfair. | ||
| The problem is girls don't even like Star Wars. | ||
| Why would they make it female-centric? | ||
| Girls don't even like Star Wars. | ||
| Star Wars is for boys. | ||
| I would even have less of a problem with it if it was, like, non-whites in it. | ||
| But just as long as it's guys. | ||
| Why does it have to be girls? | ||
| That just doesn't fit. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| And it's every single one. | ||
| Every single one of these... Rey in the sequel trilogy. | ||
| Ahsoka in the Ahsoka movie. | ||
| Uh... | ||
| Baby Princess Leia in Obi-Wan. | ||
| The girl in Andor. | ||
| The girl in Rogue One. | ||
| It's like every Star Wars project, it's all girls. | ||
| It's all girls. | ||
| It's all blacks. | ||
| The goofy haircuts takes me out of it, too. | ||
| Like, what are we doing, man? | ||
| What are we doing with this? | ||
| Because I actually like Forest Whitaker. | ||
| In Rogue One, I thought he was a great character. | ||
| But this is just... Come on, man. | ||
| What are we doing with this? | ||
| Shit, too. | ||
| Looks like absolute shit. | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| I'm just so disappointed Whatever Very depressing. | ||
| Anyway, so that's the Star Wars trailer. | ||
| I don't know, I just thought I'd play that because I watched it earlier today. | ||
| Oh, and then this goofus is going to be soy-facing over at Eckhart's Ladder. | ||
| This trailer told us a lot. | ||
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There is a ton to discuss, from new characters to connections to the greater overall Star Wars universe. | |
| I'll explain everything you need to know going into the two-episode premiere on June 4th. | ||
| This guy's like the biggest glazing. | ||
| This guy glazes Disney Star Wars more than anybody I know. | ||
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Similar, at least conceptually. | |
| Alright, so to get the very basics out of the way, The Acolyte takes place in the High Republic era. | ||
| Do you need to read the books to watch the show? | ||
| Certainly not, but there will be some crossover, more than I expected in fact, as in this trailer we actually see the character of Vernestra Rowe. | ||
| Vernestra, who is a green-skinned Mirialan like Barriss Offee, is about 16 at the beginning of the High Republic, so we can see that she's quite a bit older here. | ||
| Anyway, the trailer starts with us being introduced to Master Sol. | ||
| According to the Star Wars databank, which was actually just updated as this trailer dropped, Master Sol is a wise, respected, powerful Jedi Master, strong in the ways of the Force, who is going through emotional conflict. | ||
| I think it's probably not then a coincidence that he's teaching his students how eyes can deceive a person. | ||
| Perhaps he himself has bore witness to something. | ||
| These like adult men that are really into Star Wars lore, you should just give it up after Disney took over. | ||
| It would be embarrassing enough if it was the George Lucas Star Wars, but if you're doing this in the era of Disney, you gotta just pack it up. | ||
| You can't be doing a close reading of Disney Star Wars. | ||
| But I don't know, probably how he makes his livelihood, so... | ||
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I guess there's nowhere for this guy to pivot to, but it's just pathetic, I think. | |
| To be real. | ||
| I mean, because this is just like consumer trash. | ||
| This is just consumer DEI trash, and the guy's going into, hmm. | ||
| So, maybe he's saying I's deceived because... Alright, enough of that. | ||
| I can't. | ||
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I just can't take that anymore. | |
| Sad. | ||
| Alright, well, why don't we jump in? | ||
| We're gonna... yeah, let's just forget about that. | ||
| I'm gonna watch it. | ||
| Maybe I'll review it. | ||
| But, um... I'm gonna watch this Candace Owens debate. | ||
| So, the background on this... Candace Owens has just been at war with the Jewish Mafia lately. | ||
| I kinda did a quick background on this last week. | ||
| I covered it on my show. | ||
| And the timeline's pretty long. | ||
| I guess it goes all the way back to her relationship with Ye during Ye 24, which was in November, October, excuse me, October, November, 2022. | ||
| And she, I guess, insufficiently disavowed Kanye when all that was going on, so the Jews have had beef with her ever since. | ||
| It goes back a little bit further, but that's really when the latest stuff began. | ||
| Then during the Gaza war, when Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, she came out and basically said she's against the Palestinians being slaughtered, but she's also against Israelis being killed. | ||
| And Ben Shapiro threw under the bus, called her an idiot in private, and it went viral. | ||
| And she clapped back, and it was this big tiff on Twitter. | ||
| Then she went on maternity leave, but since she came back a couple weeks ago, she's been going hard on the Jews. | ||
| She said that Jews were creating all this pornography during the interwar period in Germany, and the Nazis burned all their gay books. | ||
| And she talked about how the Jews own the porn industry. | ||
| And there was one other thing. | ||
| I think she... | ||
| I forget in what context, but she basically talked about how there's this Jewish mafia that exists. | ||
| And she's been going at it with Rabbi Shmuley on Twitter, calling him filth. | ||
| And then I guess this other rabbi called her an anti-Semite. | ||
| So she invited him onto her show to debate. | ||
| And well, this is the debate. | ||
| So we're gonna watch and react to it. | ||
| I don't know if we'll watch the whole thing because it's like two hours, but... | ||
| We'll see how it goes. | ||
| I guess she did a pretty good job and the rabbi was pretty unlikable. | ||
| All right, everybody, let's jump right into this. | ||
| A very exciting episode for you today. | ||
| Here in my hands, I am holding an article that was published by PJ Media. | ||
| The title is, Let's Be Honest. | ||
| Candace Owens is a Jew-hating bigot. | ||
| It was written by a rabbi, Rabbi Michael Barclay. | ||
| So I read this article, and honestly, there are only two options here. | ||
| Either this rabbi is genuinely ignorant of everything that I have ever said, in which case I'm happy to clarify it because he will be joining us on today's episode, or the other option is he's completely aware of the things that I have said, and he is just a monster. | ||
| I'm excited to find out when we sit down here with Rabbi Barclay. | ||
| That's what we have coming up on Candace Owens. | ||
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Candace Owens. | |
| This is the face of total Jewish defeat. | ||
| She won. | ||
| By Barclay. | ||
| That's what we have coming up on Candace Owens. | ||
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I love that. | |
| I love that. | ||
| I love how all the Jews have to watch this show. | ||
| This is the face. | ||
| Dude. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| But this is the face of a total Jewish defeat. | ||
| We have to stand. | ||
| Go off, girly. | ||
| We fucking got your back, Candace. | ||
| Eat them up. | ||
| Eat them up! | ||
| They're filth! | ||
| It's very, it's very, uh... Striking. | ||
| Striking appearance. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Ben Shapiro has to watch this. | ||
| This... You see a face like mine looking down! | ||
| yeah she's eating i love how the intro is so generic but it's like she's going full 1488 she's going well no she's really more going full 88 the the intro is so just like chill hey it's just like a regular talk show and every show she's just like unholy rabbi phil | ||
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this is candace owens bitch Alright guys, we're gonna jump right into this. | |
| As I stated at the top of the show, we have Rabbi Michael Barclay. | ||
| He is, by the way, joining us really last second, so if the shot is not perfect, really appreciate him coming on such short notice. | ||
| Rabbi Michael Barclay, welcome to the show. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you for having me, Candace. | ||
| And Candace, I really want to tell you, I've written certain things, and it gives me great optimism. | ||
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They were gracious and reached out yesterday and wanted to get together. | |
| It actually makes me very optimistic. | ||
| Yes, so I am the ultimate defender of free speech, and I believe that we need more speech, not less of it. | ||
| When we see things and we believe them not to be true, rather than censoring that individual, we should actually give that person a platform, because people will walk away and be able to assess whether or not the statements they heard was true. | ||
| And so just to give a little bit of background to people listening to this, you appeared on Charlie Kirk's show, and you referred to me as anti-Semitic. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Not only that, Candice, I've actually written a couple of articles, one in November and one last week. | ||
| About your anti-Semitism, yeah. | ||
| Look at his stupid hat. | ||
| His stupid hat and his stupid pin. | ||
| I fucking hate him. | ||
| that article that you wrote last week, published on March 9th. | ||
| Look at his stupid hat, his stupid hat and his stupid pin. | ||
| The heading reads, let's be honest, Candace Owens is a Jew-hating bigot. | ||
| So that's very punchy, very strong language. | ||
| And I want to actually go through this article point by point so that you can defend your position and say why you wrote this. | ||
| Candace, I think before that, and as I said, I'm very optimistic that you would have a dialogue about something. | ||
| I think before that, there are some real steps, which is, I have called you, and I'm not alone in this. | ||
| Many Jews have called you an anti-Semite. | ||
| I've also talked to people who say you have a really sweet heart, just so you know. | ||
| You and I have a number of mutual friends in the world. | ||
| But I think it's important to first identify What anti-semitism is, it is a different type of hate than any other type of hate in the world. | ||
| And if you and I are speaking crossways because we have a different understanding and definition, that's not going to lead to any dialogue. | ||
| Look, I said to Scott, I'd love to walk out of here and say, you know what? | ||
| I was wrong and write an article. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
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And I was wrong. | |
| But the first piece is to Have a mutual and understanding of what is anti-semitism. | ||
| I think that would help a tremendous amount. | ||
| I actually totally agree with you on that. | ||
| That is a perfect place to start. | ||
| Could you provide for us a definition of anti-semitism? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I really appreciate that because I think that is the break. | ||
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If we're not speaking the same language, where can we go, right? | |
| So there's a man, a blessed memory man named Lord Jonathan, Sacks, who was the chief rabbi of England, he had a great line. | ||
| He really defined anti-semitism. | ||
| That anti-semitism is Jews have no right to exist collectively as Jews with the same rights as other human beings. | ||
| It's kind of a weird statement, so let's just track back to understand the history of anti-semitism. | ||
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2,000 years ago, Jews don't accept Jesus as Messiah. | |
| For people who do not have faith, as the early Christians, as some of them have faith, some I love how it's like, okay, what's the definition of anti-semitism? | ||
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Well, 2,000 years ago... Okay, really? | |
| We got to go back 2,000 years? | ||
| Those who have less faith... | ||
| I love how it's like, okay, what's the definition of anti-Semitism? | ||
| Well, 2,000 years ago... | ||
| Okay, really? | ||
| We got to go back 2,000 years? | ||
| The fact that a Jew exists, let alone thrives, is a threat to their faith. | ||
| Because how can the Jew not accept Jesus as God and still thrive? | ||
| Unless he's associated with the devils. | ||
| So you start having these myths that are created of the Jew being identified with the opposite of God. | ||
| This really codifies in 1144 in Norwich, England, what's called the bloodline. | ||
| This is really important to understand, especially today in 2024. | ||
| In 1144, a young boy is killed and the local priest says, that's because the Jews need to make their matzah with Christian blood. | ||
| Both of those things are true though. | ||
| It is both true that Jews are associated with the devil and the opposite of God, and they do use Christian blood in their rituals. | ||
| that has any blood in it. | ||
| This is a Torah law. | ||
| You can't have, that's why, you know. | ||
| Both of those things are true though. | ||
| It is both true that Jews are associated with the devil and the opposite of God. | ||
| And they do use Christian blood in their rituals. | ||
| Those are both things that are necessarily true. | ||
| if the only way to get to the father is through jesus and the jews rejected jesus then how could they be anything other than satanic how would that work How would they have access to the truth or goodness if they're disconnected with its author, which is God? | ||
| And the relationship between man and God is mediated by Jesus. | ||
| How would they have any access to it? | ||
| They can't. | ||
| They necessarily can't. | ||
| And the blood libel, it's not a libel at all. | ||
| It's just true. | ||
| There's historical documentation for it. | ||
| We can't have state tariff. | ||
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Okay? | |
| So this gets perpetuate in combination with a fourth century of what's called the Vulgate. | ||
| I'm sorry, did you say in 1140 this happened? | ||
| 1144 in Norwich Kingdom. | ||
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Okay, okay. | |
| This is after in the 4th century you have something called the Vulgate. | ||
| The Vulgate is the official translation of the Bible. | ||
| In Hebrew, there's no vowels. | ||
| And the person who translates, St. | ||
| John who translates the Vulgate, knows what he's doing is translating wrong. | ||
| He puts down that when Moses comes down from Mount Sinai, he has horns. | ||
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Okay? | |
| Karen. | ||
| When actually the word was Karan, meaning that light shone from his head. | ||
| So now by 1144, You have the anti-Semitic myth of Jews have horns and they drink blood. | ||
| And I know people who've been asked when they went into the army and other places, can I see your horns? | ||
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So this still exists today in 2024 throughout America. | |
| And I don't mean just in little rural areas. | ||
| It exists today, these myths. | ||
| That Vulgate Bible is the official Catholic Bible all the way through the 1970s. | ||
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So it is, You need to understand that that's a piece of it. | |
| Some of them do have horns though, by the way. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| They're equated with this kind of hate. | ||
| Because it's about Jews not having the right to exist collectively, when they live in their little communities in the Middle Ages, anti-Semitism is a hate against their religion. | ||
| By the time you get to the 18th and 20th centuries, when so many Jews have assimilated, they are in culture, they are in arts, they're in science, It's no longer against them for their religion, it's against them for their race. | ||
| Anti-Semitism is the oldest hate in the world and the hate that mutates. | ||
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In 1948, because remember it says Lord Sacks... Oh, I just want to pause it. | |
| You said it's a hate that mutates. | ||
| So your belief then is that the definition of antisemitism can necessarily change, is that correct? | ||
| It's not just my belief, it is the commonly accepted understanding in both the Jewish and academic worlds. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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This isn't, okay, as I said, that's why I quoted, this is a quote, it's a great thing from Lord Sacks, you know, Jonathan Sacks, it's a great thing from Nialecatus, this is just accepted as I would just say off the bat, I do not accept that definitions can just mutate. | |
| That is something that I could debate that on. | ||
| The definition of a woman, I mean, and I'm saying not just about Jewish people, I think that we have to have a concrete definition to work with because then you can just update and say actually I've changed that and now this is what constitutes anti-Semitism. | ||
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But Candace, that is the horror of anti-Semitism. | |
| So what you are saying to me is that anti-Semitism is this and does not change. | ||
| What I'm saying to you is that the entire world and scholars about anti-Semitism recognize that it is a unique hate. | ||
| That if you define it as that Jews should not be able to exist collectively, Okay, as a collective, they just shouldn't have that right. | ||
| That changes from the Middle Ages with religion, the 18th through 20th centuries about race, and then after Israel's created, it's a hatred based on the nation. | ||
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Oh, dude! | |
| Jews are so ridiculous. | ||
| Well, all the anti-Semite experts agree that anti-Semitism can mean whatever we need it to mean at any given time. | ||
| If it's about Israel, well, then it's about Israel. | ||
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If it's about our religion, it's about our religion. | |
| Well, that sounds ridiculous. | ||
| Well, but that's the horror of antisemitism. | ||
| Yeah, but no other word is like that, but that's the uniqueness of... Okay, so... It's just, uh... | ||
| Completely above any kind of consistency. | ||
| I suppose right. | ||
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It's anti-semitism is so unique and horrible I guess the uniquely horrible thing about it is that it's never consistent or tangible and until that until that is understood that that that it is a This isn't something that's really questioned about among academics, theologians, Jewish scholars. | |
| I'm not presenting it. | ||
| This is why I thought I'm so optimistic about a dialogue. | ||
| But I think part of it is you view that the hate can't mutate. | ||
| And what I'm trying to tell you is that we have two thousand years of history. | ||
| I'm going to just push back just gently here. | ||
| For me personally, if I thought that racism could just be an ever-shifting definition based on the experience of black people, it would be a remarkable power and I would be able to create something like BLM, which could say that everything was racist. | ||
| So I am not going to be able to agree that definition should be able to transform according to what's happening during the day. | ||
| But, here's what I will say, if you could, just because I think it's really important for us to get to going through this article, because then you might be able to explain why you view it as anti-Semitism, if you could just give us what you are saying the current definition of anti-Semitism is today, that would be very helpful. | ||
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What's the definition of anti-semitism today? | |
| What's the definition of anti-Semitism today? | ||
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It has to do with what the feelings are. | |
| It has to do with anti-Zionism, number one. | ||
| That is a definition. | ||
| Anti-Zionism, anti-Israel is anti-Semitism. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you believe that Jewish people can be anti-Semitic? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So when you see a gathering of Jewish people who say, you know, I'm Jewish, but I don't support Israel or Bibi Netanyahu, you say that person can be anti-Semitic. | ||
| You just did two different things that were totally unrelated. | ||
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You said that Jews that do not support Israel. | |
| different things that were totally unrelated, Candace. | ||
| You said that Jews that do not support Israel. - Yes. - And you said Jews that do not support Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| I'm just saying that because he's the current prime minister. | ||
| So I'm saying like if they say they don't support... This is where you're missing the point. | ||
| So I'm going to go under the following premise, okay? | ||
| I'm going to go under the premise that you care about people. | ||
| You and I don't know each other, but I'm going to go under that premise. | ||
| I'm going to go under the premise that you have no desire to ever hurt anyone. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's the premise I'm coming into this dialogue with. | ||
| Jews are so condescending. | ||
| It's so evil. | ||
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You have been devastatingly hurtful. | |
| And I think that I'm going to go from there. | ||
| You don't understand what it means to the Jewish world. | ||
| There's a great teaching that comes out of every sociologist, every person in academics is that I don't get to tell a black man if he's experiencing racism. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| I don't get to tell you if you're experiencing misogyny. | ||
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You know. | |
| If I make a comment, and it's misogynistic, and you say, Rabbi, you know that was really misogynistic, my job is to say, wow, I didn't mean that. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Jews get to tell us that was anti-Semitic. | ||
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Your job is to say, now you say, I'm sorry, Rabbi. | |
| Now say it. | ||
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Say I'm sorry, Rabbi. | |
| You can't tell me what it is. | ||
| I said it was anti-Semitic and you hurt me. | ||
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Now say I'm sorry, Rabbi. | |
| That's your job. | ||
| Now say it. | ||
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Say it, Goyim. | |
| That's not what I meant. | ||
| And do not get the right. | ||
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You do not have their right, Goy. | |
| You don't have their right to say what is anti-Semitic. | ||
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Say, I'm sorry, Rabbi. | |
| No, I'm not trying to- I don't think I said anything about me having the right- I just said to you, would you then view- They're so evil. | ||
| They're wicked. | ||
| Because I did host somebody who is Jewish, Dave Smith, on my show. | ||
| I'm sure you're familiar with him. | ||
| He's a comedian, he's a libertarian, he is not pro-Zionist. | ||
| So I'm just asking you for clarity, because you're saying that you can't dismiss a Jewish person, but aren't you thereby dismissing Jewish people who say that I don't support Israel as a state? | ||
| I'm just trying to have you answer that question. | ||
| I will ask you back the same question. | ||
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Are there Blacks who are, do not support Blacks? | |
| Are there, pick the cause for the minority who do not support or not, or are actually even better. | ||
| You and I both sit on the conservative side. | ||
| We share that, right? | ||
| And we face the same way when it comes to that. | ||
| And we both, I think, are disappointed in those who Republicans name. | ||
| Brett? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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OK. | |
| Does that mean they're not Republicans? | ||
| Well, I wouldn't describe a race as a political ideology, like a political party. | ||
| That's very different. | ||
| So to say that you can't be a race, like you're not black if you don't support this, is different than, like, you're basically saying that a Jewish person can't be anti-Semitic. | ||
| So that would be like saying a black person can, in fact, be racist towards, or they're not black. | ||
| I'm not going to comment on black I will say there are plenty of self-hating Jews. | ||
| Okay, so you do believe, that's all I was trying to get you to say, is that Jewish people who don't support Israel, you are saying they are anti-Semitic. | ||
| I just want to understand that. | ||
| I'm saying it very clearly, they are self-hating Jews. | ||
| Let's use that term very specifically. | ||
| And you need to understand why they are self-hating Jews. | ||
| And you need to understand, as numerous people have talked about, I've written about, Gregor's talked about, Skorka's talked about, Levin's talked about, a number of people have talked about, Shapiro's talked about, as I say, I've written about, is that people want to assimilate. | ||
| For 2,000 years, Jews have been persecuted, and so they want to assimilate, and so many have converted from Judaism, not to another religion, but to leftist politics. | ||
| That becomes their religion. | ||
| And they lose their identity. | ||
| That is a reality. | ||
| So you need to understand, or I shouldn't say you need to, that's not fair, and I apologize. | ||
| I hope, I would hope that you understand a history and an understanding that we define what anti-semitism is. | ||
| And what happened on October 7th, what happened on October 7th, and I wrote an article about you in November. | ||
| I don't know if you read it or not. | ||
| I was told you had, but I don't know if you did or not. | ||
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I did not. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I wish you had. | ||
| I really wish you had. | ||
| Because we might be in a very different place. | ||
| You went on Tucker Carlson. | ||
| After all, this is November. | ||
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This guy is such a load, dude. | |
| And... Okay, go ahead. | ||
| I was going to say, I want to talk about that, because you put that in this article, which was published just last week. | ||
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So I wrote a very specific article, and you can find it right now. | |
| The self-hating Jew thing is funny because what he's really saying is that Jews that do not affirm their Jewish identity are evil, and that is what Jews believe. | ||
| He said, no, no, we're not going to call Jews that don't support Israel anti-Semites, we're going to call Jews that don't support Israel self-hating Jews. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they want to assimilate into the West by adopting left-wing politics. | ||
| And that, if you pay attention, that's something that they are very... They're very... They ostracize any Jew that wants to truly assimilate. | ||
| But if you notice earlier, he said that when Jews assimilated into the West, that's when anti-Semitism became racial. | ||
| But now he's saying that if you seek to assimilate, you're a self-hating Jew. | ||
| You're a Jew that's an enemy of the Jews if you want to assimilate. | ||
| So they don't want to be like us. | ||
| They don't want to join us. | ||
| They don't want to be American. | ||
| They don't want to join the universal brotherhood of mankind under a left-wing ideology, they want to remain Jews. | ||
| And those that don't get ostracized, chastised, they say, well, they're not real Jews or they're self-hating Jews. | ||
| So it's an important note. | ||
| And he even said it himself, you know, well, let's call them self-hating Jews. | ||
| And it was an impersonal invitation to you and for you that despite everything else I had read or seen or heard, that my belief and my hope is that your comment of that my belief and my hope is that your comment of wanting to have an academics discussion about October 7th came from a place of not really realizing what October 7th | ||
| October 7th is unique in recorded human history as the ugliest day of humanity. | ||
| These people are ridiculous! | ||
| The Holocaust was a unique genocide. | ||
| Anti-Semitism is a unique form of hatred. | ||
| October 7th was a unique day- Okay, really dude? | ||
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It was done on October 7th. | |
| Taking a young woman, taking her phone to videotape her being raped on the corpse of her dead boyfriend, and then shot on it, and sending that video to her parents. | ||
| Beheading a man with a garden hoe, kicking a woman until her body parts fall off, is unique in terms of the intention to attack civilians. | ||
| And so in November, after you made the comment on Tucker Carlson about wanting an academic discussion about how, you know, those kind of comments that you made and the ennui that you demonstrate, I wrote an article saying that I would arrange for you, there's a film, a 47-minute film by the IDF, | ||
| It's all the footage done by Hamas terrorists of what they were doing so proudly what they wanted to do and that my belief was I don't think that you quite realize that and I would arrange for private screening for you and your friends. | ||
| that I would arrange that and then have the discussion about how you feel about October 7th. | ||
| Okay, so I just really would like to get to your article. | ||
| So we're going to hit you with atrocity propaganda and re-education. | ||
| And then when you've seen what they did to us, then you're equipped to have this conversation. | ||
| I think it's important. | ||
| I want to acknowledge that. | ||
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You and your friends. | |
| You and your friends. | ||
| All expense paid trip to watch a 47-minute snuff film. | ||
| That's not an opinion. | ||
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That's not an opinion. | |
| I didn't say opinion. | ||
| I said I want to acknowledge your pain about... | ||
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I apologize. | |
| Dude, they're so obnoxious. | ||
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That's not an opinion. | |
| I didn't say opinion. | ||
| I said I want to acknowledge your pain about October 7th. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| - Wait, wait, wait, that's not an opinion. - I didn't say opinion. | ||
| I said I want to acknowledge your pain about - I apologize, I apologize. | ||
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- Yeah. - I apologize. - They're so, dude, they're so, ugh. | |
| Now you guys are starting to see. | ||
| I feel like my entire life, everybody's looked at me as like, not my entire life, but the last seven years, my entire adult life, when I talk about Jews, people look at me like I'm crazy, you know? | ||
| And I talk about how these people are, people look at me like, what's your hang-up? | ||
| What's with the obsession? | ||
| But I feel like after everything that's been happening lately, Everybody can get a little taste of what I've seen for years, what I've realized a long time ago in its totality. | ||
| The way he goes, that's not an opinion! | ||
| These people are just like, they're... | ||
| About October 7th. | ||
| That's not an opinion. | ||
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That's not an opinion. | |
| I didn't say opinion. | ||
| I said I want to ignore seven. | ||
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No, wait, that's not an opinion. | |
| That's not an opinion. | ||
| No, no, I didn't say... | ||
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They're so unlikable. | |
| These guys like Schmooly, this guy, Jonathan Greenblatt, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, they're all so unlikable. | ||
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They're so arrogant. | |
| They obviously don't give a fuck about any of us. | ||
| These guys like Shmooley, this guy, Jonathan Greenblatt, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, they're all so unlikable. | ||
| They're so arrogant. | ||
| They obviously don't give a fuck about any of us. | ||
| They only care about each other. | ||
| So insincere, rude. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| October 7th, and I want to get to that because you are- Does that make sense? | ||
| Yeah, you're mischaracterizing what I said on Tucker Carlson, but I do have a clip and we're going to be able to watch it. | ||
| I definitely did not say I wanted to have an academic debate about October 7th. | ||
| That's not what I said at all. | ||
| But like I said, I have the clip and I do also want I think it's best for us to dive into what you actually wrote about me, because there are several mischaracterizations, I believe, of what I said, but both of us are going to be able to watch it. | ||
| So, again, this is the article. | ||
| And by the way, you did say in this article that you heard that I received your invitation. | ||
| That is false. | ||
| I think it's important to just maybe name the people who told you that I received your invitation. | ||
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No, I'd rather not do that, especially since you're saying that That's incorrect, in which case I apologize. | |
| No, you can apologize. | ||
| I just think that, like, a lot of the reason that things happen is because there is this sort of back-channeling and discussion, and nobody told me that I got an invitation, and now you've written that I refused an invitation, and so that adds to people believing... So Candace, I'm gonna ask you a question right now. | ||
| I'm inviting you. | ||
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Forget about the article. | |
| Because I have no issue and would love to write an article saying, I was wrong, Candace Owens does not feel that way. | ||
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I would love that. | |
| So I'm inviting you right now. | ||
| I will set up a screening for you. | ||
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Will you come? | |
| If you set up a screening for me after we go through this, I just want to also be able to estimate your character by going through some of the things that you wrote. | ||
| You did write some things that I believe... Wait, wait, wait. | ||
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I'm asking you a yes or no question. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| And I just said to you, I'm going to give you an answer to that. | ||
| But I'm asking you a question. | ||
| You said you haven't had an invitation. | ||
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I'm asking you a question. | |
| I will take the entire article-- I am not saying I'm not going to answer your question. | ||
| I am just saying that I would like to go through this, see how you feel. | ||
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But I'm going to do a validation. | |
| You said you haven't had an invitation. | ||
| I'm asking you. | ||
| I don't have to be there. | ||
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I'll set it up for you. | |
| Okay, sure. | ||
| If you want to set it up for me to have a screening of that here without you there, that's fine. | ||
| What I'm saying is that... Okay, great. | ||
| Based on what you wrote about me, I wouldn't... So horrible. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| I'm just glad the world is finally starting to see. | ||
| God bless Candace Owens, because she has so much more patience than I do. | ||
| With people like this, I mean me, I just can't even sit still in my seat watching this, but she's putting on a masterclass, letting the tool do the work, so to speak. | ||
| She is letting them reveal themselves for what they are, so God bless her. | ||
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I just can't even with these people. | |
| I wouldn't take an invitation from you anywhere. | ||
| I think that's fair, given what's in this article. | ||
| I think that's a normal human response, that if somebody has written something that is utterly libelous about you, it mischaracterizes what you said. | ||
| But if you want to set it up separately, and you want to send it to the Daily Wire, and you want to set up a private screening, I absolutely will watch the events of October 7th. | ||
| You know what? | ||
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God bless you. | |
| And had I ever heard you say that, I wouldn't have written an article. | ||
| Well, I think you still would have, because you made a lot of points in here. | ||
| No, no, I wouldn't have. | ||
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No, I wouldn't have, because I believe in the idea that it's about what we act and learn. | |
| And we have a concept called Schubert Introduction. | ||
| No, actually, honestly, had you said there, at any point, what you just now said to me, that you would watch a screening. | ||
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I don't need to be there. | |
| That you would watch a screening. | ||
| If I said it up, I would not have written that article. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I do still want to go through these points, though, because you... Okay, but do you hear that, please? | ||
| Yes, I hear that, and thank you for saying that, but a lot of what you wrote in this article is a lot of what I'm assuming you have a friendly relationship with Rabbi Shmuley has been saying about me, so it's really important to go through these points, because when you write something like, is a Jew hating bigot, that's very strong language, and we need to go through these points. | ||
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So we'll go through all of them, sure. | |
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| Okay, let's just begin here. | ||
| So you basically make the argument that I'm drunk on fame and that that is the reason why I have let out the truth about who I am, which makes me a Jew-hater. | ||
| First thing you say is that this is a woman who is such an anti-Semite and so ignorant of history that in 2018 she publicly said that Hitler was okay. | ||
| Do you actually believe that I publicly said that Hitler was okay? | ||
| So from the recording that I heard, including the congressional testimony, which I think was taken out of context, and from the comments that you said, okay? | ||
| And you're correct if I'm wrong, but my understanding from your comments is you were asked a question about nationals. | ||
| And you responded about nationalism using the example that nationalism was good and that what Hitler did, Hitler was nationalistic in Germany and that was okay. | ||
| You have said specifically you think Hitler is a horrible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And you have condemned Hitler, thank God, without question. | ||
| And you also brought him up in that discussion about nationalism. | ||
| Is that all accurate? - So when you just write, she publicly said Hitler was okay. | ||
| That is dishonest, because what I actually was saying was answering a question, as you brought up, where we were not even talking about Jews, not talking about the Holocaust. | ||
| A woman was asking about whether or not it's okay for people today to say that they're nationalists, when it's often associated as a dirty word. | ||
| And what I was saying was that it's wrongly associated with Hitler. | ||
| I don't believe that Hitler was a nationalist, because obviously Hitler Invaded Poland. | ||
| He obviously had ambitions outside of... So we have the clip, so we're gonna play it. | ||
| So again, the question that's being asked of me is whether or not nationalism is an okay word to embrace. | ||
| Let's play the clip so we can hear me and what I actually said. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism. | ||
| I think that it gets, the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. | ||
| Globalism is what I don't want. | ||
| So, when you think about, whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. | ||
| So again, we're trying there to define nationalism. | ||
| but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. | ||
| The problem is that he had dreams outside of Germany. | ||
| He wanted to globalize. | ||
| He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. | ||
| That's not, to me, that's not nationalism. | ||
| So again, we're trying there to define nationalism. | ||
| Does your statement, she publicly said that Hitler was okay. | ||
| Is that an honest statement? | ||
| Yeah, so let's talk about this for a moment. | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You were asked a question about nationalism. | ||
| You responded with an example of Adolf Hitler. | ||
| Yes, I said because Americans associate, the reason why I think it's a dirty word is because of Adolf Hitler. | ||
| You responded, and you have subsequently, and I've seen you, subsequently, and I think you even said it in the congressional hearing, you have obviously condemned him for Was. | ||
| But you brought Hitler's name into the discussion. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And you justify that this is how America feels or how people feel. | ||
| And that's your take on it. | ||
| It's not necessarily accurate. | ||
| In fact, it probably isn't from a from an actual sociological standpoint. | ||
| But that's your opinion. | ||
| Fine. | ||
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But Candace, you You put in the same sentence what he did if it just had stayed in Germany was okay. | |
| But more importantly, and here's a piece of the anti-Semitism, why bring one of the most evil men of history into the discussion? | ||
| You could just as easily have given any negative examples of nationalism. | ||
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You chose to bring Hitler on. | |
| I did. | ||
| And I have no, if I could go backwards in the context of trying to understand why Americans think that nationalism is a bad word, it was appropriate for me to bring off Adolf Hitler. | ||
| It is totally appropriate in any capacity when you are talking about history and historical sentiments to bring up any relevant character that has created those sentiments. | ||
| So I just want to, again, I just want to yes or no. | ||
| After watching that in context... I want to make sure we don't run out of time here. | ||
| After watching that in context, do you think it is fair that you wrote, she publicly said that Hitler was okay? | ||
| Hitler was okay? | ||
| Yes, by bringing me even into the conversation, yes I do. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| These people... This is why, by the way, we have to do the... | ||
| I love Hitler thing. | ||
| You know, people are always like, well, is it necessary? | ||
| Is it necessary to talk about Hitler and praise Hitler and blah blah blah? | ||
| Under these circumstances, just the act itself, by its own... It justifies itself. | ||
| Because this is the reaction. | ||
| So ridiculous. | ||
| But that's why you can't even give them an inch on that. | ||
| Because if you find yourself in a scenario where a Jew is lecturing you about your use of Hitler, whether you said he's good, bad, ugly, whatever, and you have to plead with them, but I don't think Hitler's okay, but I didn't say Hitler was okay, you've already lost. | ||
| Why should we be constrained in that way? | ||
| As Americans, as white Christian Americans, why should we feel constrained? | ||
| He says that we can't even utter the name Hitler. | ||
| Or discuss Hitler. | ||
| Now, if they want to go in and say, oh, so-and-so's Hitler, and this one's Hitler, and that one's an anti-Semite, they can be as flippant as they want to be, and they can use it as liberally as possible. | ||
| Well, but you mentioned Hitler, so you support Hitler, so you support genocide. | ||
| And that's the level of slander. | ||
| Because to say that somebody likes Hitler is like saying, oh, you're a Nazi and you support, like, murdering people. | ||
| So, an allusion to Hitler in any context, in any way, is the same thing as saying, I'm a murderer. | ||
| I support mass murderers. | ||
| And this Jew thinks that's okay. | ||
| Let's move on here, because again, this discussion, we're having it between us, but I want the public to be able to, you know, deduce what's... I wonder what the comments say. | ||
| When she played her Hitler quote and he still stood by what he wrote, I lost respect for this guy. | ||
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True. | |
| The demons Judas saw in the passion of the Christ weren't shown to demonize Jews for not believing in Jesus. | ||
| This is the wrap. | ||
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Oh, this is from later on. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So I don't know if these people are getting it. | ||
| We'll read all the comments afterward. | ||
| What's fair and what's not fair. | ||
| You then wrote this statement. | ||
| A mere month after the horrors of babies being beheaded, women being raped, and the slews of horrors from Hamas, Owens went on Tucker Carlson's show to speak about how it really wasn't that bad, and why should she even care? | ||
| After all, she seems to think that Hitler was okay, so what's the problem? | ||
| Is that true that I went on Tucker Carlson's show and said that October 7th really wasn't that bad? | ||
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Yeah, actually you did. | |
| You did it through the implications and the words. | ||
| And I actually do know where some of those clips are because I re-watched it multiple times. | ||
| And you specifically say you want to have an academic discussion. | ||
| You specifically say, I don't want to misquote you, that you believe you have a moderate stance because You see the children dying and on both sides, and you talk about the pain, and I think you do feel pain about Gaza. | ||
| And this goes back to the anti-Semitism campus. | ||
| What happened October 7th is unique. | ||
| It is, to even make a moral equivalency, This is one of the keys in anti-Semitism and in any prejudice and bigotry, is that an inappropriate moral equivalency is created. | ||
| When someone says that this race, these people, whomever, are like dogs, they've made a moral equivalency between those people and dogs, that is bigotry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I just, I first want to debunk the idea that, I first want to debunk the idea that I did not, like I in any way said it really wasn't that bad. | ||
| That statement never came out of my mouth and I also want to show that actually, contrary to that, I condemned, I condemned, I condemned what Hamas did. | ||
| So let's just show that clip of what I said and then I want to get to your quotation about academic discussion. | ||
| Let's just show what I said about Hamas. | ||
| I have seen every single person, including myself, condemn what happened on October 7th, because who wouldn't condemn terrorism? | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| Who would not condemn innocent Israelis dying? | ||
| But if you then say that it is also sad when an innocent Palestinian child dies, suddenly this is pro-Hamas, or you need to say, even when you're talking about how sad it is that a child dies, you need to button that statement by saying, but that child was a human shield. | ||
| That's not going to be my response. | ||
| First off, as a mother, that's not going to be my response as somebody who is about to to give birth when I see these images of children involved on both sides of the conflict. | ||
| I've pointed to the people that are mocking dead Israeli children and said that they are horrific. | ||
| I am even keel on this matter. | ||
| And yet people think that you need to be extreme. | ||
| So people that have become more radical and extreme are perceiving a moderate stance as not enough. | ||
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People can disagree with you or agree with you or whatever but you certainly don't seem radical on this topic. | |
| And I'm gonna hold here before you comment on that, because your next sentence... Dude, Tucker... The way that Tucker responded to that is crazy. | ||
| Well, people can agree or disagree, but you're not a radical. | ||
| What the fuck kind of response is that? | ||
| Candace said, well, hey, I'm just saying that it's sad when Palestinians die too. | ||
| And Tucker goes, yeah, well... I mean, agree or disagree, you're definitely not an extremist. | ||
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What? | |
| What the fuck? | ||
| What kind of response is that, even? | ||
| I'm sure Tucker was surprised to hear her say that. | ||
| I don't know if he'd have her on the show otherwise. | ||
| As you just said, she wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion and refused to even condemn Hamas. | ||
| So we just saw that I did condemn Hamas. | ||
| And regarding the academic discussion... No, you didn't! | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| No, you made a moral equivalency between Hamas and Gaza. | ||
| I didn't do that. | ||
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There is no moral equivalency. | |
| What Hamas did is evil. | ||
| It is not a tragedy, only it is evil. | ||
| I'm sorry, Candace, but you make an equivalency that does not exist in most people's minds and certainly in no Jew's minds. | ||
| OK, so I'm glad that you said that so people can hear what I actually said. | ||
| Did you say most importantly? | ||
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Certainly in no Jew's minds. | |
| Certainly. | ||
| OK, so I'm glad that you said that so people can hear what I actually said and hear what you are saying and how you are taking it. | ||
| I don't know how you could write this statement, she refused to condemn Hamas when I literally said, who would not condemn these horrific events? | ||
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Because you don't condemn them uniquely evil. | |
| You put them in para-pursuit relationships. | ||
| So you're saying that, you're saying that even though I did, so now you're admitting that I did condemn Hamas. | ||
| Even though you wrote she refused to condemn Hamas. | ||
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What condemnation is? | |
| Is this where you really want to go, is have an English discussion on what condemnation is? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You wrote she refused to condemn Hamas. | ||
| These are your words. | ||
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Because when you put that, the moment you say that they have a moral equivalency with anything else, that's not condemnation, no matter what you wrote about that. | |
| I didn't. | ||
| I said it's sad and innocent. | ||
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It's not condemnation. | |
| I'll just ask you a question. | ||
| Is it sad? | ||
| Is it sad? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't want to cut each other off, okay? | ||
| Because clearly what we are having here is just a disagreement. | ||
| There's no reason to get angry. | ||
| Do you think it is sad when an innocent Palestinian child dies? | ||
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Candace, I cry every day. | |
| And it's not just for Israel. | ||
| Look at this fucking freak. | ||
| Man, it's so hard to watch this and keep it rumble appropriate. | ||
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it. | |
| Ahem. | ||
| Look at this freak. | ||
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Oh, it's difficult. | |
| It's difficult. | ||
| Some days it's difficult. | ||
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And this is one of the things you clearly do not understand. | |
| The same way most don't, who are anti-Semites, you don't get it. | ||
| I cry for what's going on in Israel. | ||
| I cry just as much for what we are forced to do. | ||
| Golda Meir had a great quote. | ||
| She said that one day we may be able to forgive them for killing Israeli children. | ||
| We will never be able to forgive them For making us kill their children. | ||
| So what about my statement of saying that I also cry? | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| We will forgive them for killing our children. | ||
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We will never forgive them for making us kill their children. | |
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| That's an insane quote. | ||
| You made us kill your kids. | ||
| You made us do it and we'll never forgive you for making us kill your kids. | ||
| For Palestinian children is wrong to you if you also admit it is sad when Palestinian children die. | ||
| It's painful, but it is not in any way, shape or form morally equivalent to October 7th. | ||
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That is the anti-Semitic bigotry. | |
| But I didn't say that. | ||
| I just want to be clear. | ||
| People are watching. | ||
| It's just not what came out of my mouth. | ||
| But I'm not going to-- I don't want to get hung up. | ||
| I don't want to get hung up on that. | ||
| I want to now point to-- you said I wanted to talk about the depravities. | ||
| I'm going to quote it. | ||
| She wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion. | ||
| Actually, I was talking about NATO and here is a clip of what I said when I used the words academic discussion. | ||
| Take a listen. | ||
| I mean, you can go back to me even talking about NATO expansion before things erupted between Russia and Ukraine. | ||
| You're using it in the reference, Candace, in the dialogue about October 7th. | ||
| how much expansion is too much expansion? | ||
| How would we feel if we had troops on our border? | ||
| These are things that should be allowed in an academic discussion. | ||
| You should be able to sit on stage and should be able to debate these ideas without using odd hominid attacks. - You're using it in the reference, Candace, in the dialogue about October 7th. | ||
| We're using your discussions with NATO as an analogy, in an analogous way, about how we should be able to discuss October 7th. | ||
| Okay, so you think that it is fair after listening to that, me talking about NATO and me talking about Russia and Ukraine and saying that we should always be able to have an academic discussion about foreign policy, you think your statement still is fair saying that she wanted to talk about the depravities of Hamas as an academic discussion? | ||
| Because you're using that context and you're the one taking your own quotes out of context. | ||
| I played it. | ||
| I didn't take it out of context. | ||
| I just played it. | ||
| Then play the whole paragraph where you're talking before the entire issue. | ||
| I did. | ||
| So the first part was what I just showed you. | ||
| That was actually a split clip. | ||
| The first part, the first half of that was when you, the one that we just showed you, when you said that I said it really wasn't that bad and why should you even care? | ||
| The first part I say I condemn Hamas. | ||
| And then I said that I've been consistent in always saying that we should have a topic. | ||
| We should be able to discuss foreign policy removed from ad hominem attacks because that is the truth and that's how I feel. | ||
| But to be clear, I just broke out academic discussion because I was referring. | ||
| Candace, I'm going to ask you really simple questions. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I want to keep going through this. | ||
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I think it's important here. | |
| It's about this. | ||
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I'm going to ask you a simple question. | |
| Do you ever mean to hurt people because they're race, religion, or color? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Do I ever mean to hurt people? | ||
| Because they're race, religion, or color. | ||
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Ever. | |
| I can't hear the last part of it. | ||
| I don't know why I'm not hearing it. | ||
| I apologize if we know about the technology. | ||
| Do you ever intend to hurt or want to hurt anyone based on their race, religion, theology, color, etc.? | ||
| No. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Not once. | ||
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All right. | |
| What you need to hear is your statement. | ||
| I'm not alone in this. | ||
| Because it is in the whole context of October 7th, it's hurtful to choose. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I'd like to give you an analogy that I think that might really help our dialogue, if that's okay. | ||
| A number of years ago, a movie came out called The Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Did you see the movie? | ||
| Yes, it's a wonderful movie. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I saw the movie as well. | ||
| I saw it twice and I raised for a screening of priest students, minister students, rabbinic students, rabbis, ministers and priests. | ||
| When I was a professor. | ||
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I realized something in watching that movie. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| There are two movies going on. | ||
| If you accept Jesus as your Savior, then that movie is so brilliant and so painful about his suffering that it transcends everything else and that's all you see. | ||
| I think you just said it was a brilliant movie, as many of my friends did, et cetera. | ||
| I think it was a brilliant movie too, as well. | ||
| If you don't accept Jesus as your Savior, you're not so emotionally attached to all the suffering that Gibson portrays so well. | ||
| So what you do notice, as an example, are all the anti-Semitic things. | ||
| So I had a discussion with Come on. | ||
| He goes, if you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, well, you don't really care so much when they're beating him and whipping him and crucifying him. | ||
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We don't care. | |
| We don't think he's a savior. | ||
| We do know this is all the anti-semitism. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| These people are just like beyond parody and so evil. | ||
| I'll give you an example of one scene. | ||
| There's a scene of little Jewish kids who chase Judas, and they morph into demons. | ||
| And they're wearing modern 20th century yarmulkes, and they have classic Jewish archetypal faces, and they morph into demons. | ||
| And with modern yarmulkes, it's that trope of Jews as demons. | ||
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And Laney said to me, I don't remember that scene. | |
| And I realized in that moment, She was so emotionally involved in the suffering of Jesus, she didn't notice the anti-Semitism. | ||
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But what about the Jews? | |
| You're so worried about Jesus, you don't even care about his Jews. | ||
| Is that a real scene? | ||
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Passion of the Christ to this. - - Katsy opumek, gen, nakadzeh. | |
| Khashik ran tisraf, netzur. | ||
| Bitaidof, katzyodav. | ||
| Hatavlak. | ||
| Teterduni. | ||
| Zairaya. | ||
| Zadanaia. | ||
| Ahud, glala. | ||
| Tengkol, hand, kalil. Kalil? | ||
| Kidra, ahudahil. | ||
| Kidra. Kidra. Kidra. Kidra. Kalil, kalil, kalil, kalil. Kalil, kalil. | ||
| Rahit. | ||
| Ah, kik! | ||
| Oh So this is the scene he's talking about | ||
| And what way is that anti-semitic? | ||
| I I think they just feel bad for Judas. | ||
| Let's see, Mark Dice says, The demons Judas saw weren't shown to demonize Jews. | ||
| They were demons tormenting Judas for betraying Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I think that's... | ||
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Both are true. | |
| You may not have the desire to have that pain in your heart, but what I'm trying to tell you is By having a conversation with Tucker Carlson, under the umbrella of October 7th, which is what that segment was about, and saying that you have a moderate stance, that there should be able to be discussion, just like there is about NATO. | ||
| It invalidates the reality of the absolute evil that is unique to October 7th. | ||
| Had you asked me on October 6th what to do with Hamas, Despite that in their covenant of 1988, their charter, which I don't know if you've read, despite the fact that in articles 7, 11, and 13, they call for the destruction of all Jews. | ||
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If you'd asked me on October 6th, I would say we should do whatever we should do for peace. | |
| What they did on October 7th was surrender their human souls. | ||
| They became Amalek, if you're familiar with the character from the Bible. | ||
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And what they did is so evil. | |
| It cannot be compared to anything else. | ||
| Just like what Hitler did is so evil, no one should compare. | ||
| I don't care if it's Trump or Obama, no one should compare any political leaders to Daniel. | ||
| But do you see? | ||
| This is so important. | ||
| They literally want to create themselves as the ultimate sacrificial victim. | ||
| That is the nucleus. | ||
| That is the nuclear myth. | ||
| Western civilization and in that sense they aim to replace Christ and that's why it's so funny that he brought up or telling that he brought up the passion of the Christ because the foundation of Christianity is that Christ is a sacrificial lamb and the real Holocaust the real offering is the blood of Jesus and that is the sacrifice of | ||
| upon which everything else is built. | ||
| The saving sacrifice, the saving grace of the blood atonement that Jesus paid on the cross. | ||
| And what this Jew says is, well, you Christians are so focused on the suffering of Jesus, you forget about the suffering of us Jews. | ||
| For Christians, well, it's a brilliant movie because it depicts the suffering of the ultimate victim, Jesus, the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus. | ||
| But for those that don't believe in Jesus, what about the suffering and the victimhood of the Jews? | ||
| And then he brings up October 7th. | ||
| It says October 7th was unique in all of history. | ||
| Nothing like October 7th has ever happened before. | ||
| Just like nothing like the Holocaust has ever happened before. | ||
| And so that makes them, not Jesus, the ultimate... Even in a movie about Jesus, Jews are supposed to be the ultimate victim. | ||
| And that is the basis of the definition of anti-Semitism. | ||
| That it's not about even hating Jews, it's about drawing a moral equivalency. | ||
| If we are to draw a moral equivalency, or even compare the suffering of one group versus the Jews, or one atrocity versus the Jews, they say that in itself is anti-Semitism because the suffering of the Jews is greater than the suffering of anybody else, they say. | ||
| We can't compare the suffering of the Palestinians because nothing compares to the suffering of the Jews. | ||
| We can't compare any genocide of the Holocaust because nothing compares. | ||
| And so it's anti-Semitism is really about protecting that mythological victim status. | ||
| That being the foundation of the political order. | ||
| Sacrificial violence. | ||
| And specifically, sacrificial violence against the Jews. | ||
| So it's very telling that anti-Semitism has a lot less to do with, you know, do you like Jews or do you hate Jews? | ||
| And it's more about protecting the status of the violence that's been perpetrated against them. | ||
| Because if we were to start questioning it, I think the whole political order would fall apart. | ||
| If we were to replace the suffering of the Jews in the Holocaust with the suffering of Jesus on the cross, we would have a completely different political order. | ||
| With probably many, a lot fewer Jews in power, and maybe a Catholic state. | ||
| You know, all this stuff is connected. | ||
| Jews want to separate church and state. | ||
| Jews are against Christianity. | ||
| They think Christianity itself is anti-Semitic. | ||
| They hate the Catholic Church. | ||
| And they want the Holocaust to be the core instead of the crucifixion and the resurrection. | ||
| Very, very telling. | ||
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You did it under a guise. | |
| Which of course, by the way, none of that is true. | ||
| Of course other people have suffered as much or more than the Jews. | ||
| To say otherwise is ridiculous. | ||
| Nothing like October 7th has ever happened. | ||
| How about 9-11? | ||
| They flew planes into the buildings, 3,000 people burned to death, were buried under a collapsing building, jumped out of the building. | ||
| How many died on October 7th? | ||
| And how many were actually even killed by Hamas versus killed by Israelis? | ||
| Some say it's in the hundreds. | ||
| So I say, there was nothing like October 7th, really? | ||
| I think many groups of people would disagree with that. | ||
| I think Ukrainians would disagree. | ||
| I'm talking about Ukrainians in the 30s. | ||
| I'm sure the Chinese would disagree under occupation from the Japanese. | ||
| I'm sure the victims of ISIS would disagree. | ||
| So, I mean, that's just not even true. | ||
| But that's why he says, well, we can't have an academic discussion about October 7th. | ||
| We can't debate it. | ||
| It's not an opinion. | ||
| Sit down and watch my movie. | ||
| Sit down and watch my stuff film. | ||
| And after you watch people get dismembered for 45 minutes, then we could talk about what the Jews can do and, you know, whether they can be restrained by Washington or anybody for that matter. | ||
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It was anti-Semitic. | |
| Okay, so I just don't, I'm just going to be honest with you. | ||
| I don't accept that characterization. | ||
| So what I'm doing now is I'm allowing you to say what you believe and showing the clips not removed from their context and we have to just allow, you know, people to take from this discussion what they can. | ||
| If you're like most Americans, you're struggling to make ends meet. | ||
| Everything is more expensive these days by the time you pay the bill. | ||
| Boo! | ||
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1210 for details about credit costs and terms. | |
| Now I do want to move on though because then the next sentence almost appears to me to be the inversion of what actually happened. | ||
| You write, "She castigated Ben Shapiro for being passionately pro-Israel." I couldn't find a clip on that, so I just I just wanted to ask you what you were referring to, because actually what happened was Ben insulted me publicly. | ||
| I have not insulted Ben publicly. | ||
| So I'm just wondering where that sentence, where we can look for me castigating Ben Shapiro for being prostrate. - I will try and find the active place, number one. | ||
| Number two-- - Just off the top of your head, where I was when I castigated him, where I was when I disrespected him. - Candace, I will be happy to go try and find you things about I'm sure Ben can find them as well. | ||
| I'm sure other people can't. | ||
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I want to make something real clear about this though. | |
| I don't think that there is a place for any of the kind of dialogue, especially between people who are the same conservatives or on the same side. | ||
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I don't think there's a place to personally insult anyone. | |
| And that comes from both sides. | ||
| I don't think it's okay for anyone to insult you or your family. | ||
| I don't think it's okay for you to insult anyone or their families. | ||
| I call you an anti-Semite because that's how I judge the way you act and what you've said. | ||
| I'm very pleased that you've agreed to watch the documentary. | ||
| It makes me very happy and you can comment on it after you've watched it. | ||
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It makes me really happy, honestly. | |
| And I hope that after you see that you'll have a whole different understanding. | ||
| But I don't think it's okay for anyone to say, make personal attacks. | ||
| Now when Ben Shapiro calls you an anti-Semite, I call you an anti-Semite. | ||
| I only wish goodness on your soul, but that is how you act. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's very different than calling you a fill-in-the-blank pejorative. | ||
| Okay, but you did write, she castigated Ben Shapiro for being pro-Israel, so I'm just asking you... | ||
| Happy to find the exact bloodstream. | ||
| Happy to find it. | ||
| It just never happened. | ||
| I would never... Okay, you're saying that? | ||
| I'm happy to find where you... But he did insult me, but I did not insult Ben. | ||
| So that was very interesting, because I was like, that's almost an inversion of what happened here. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| Candace, he says something differently, I think, but I will find and give... I'm happy to let Skylar know a place in the... And only in that specific interview, by the way. | ||
| Oh, in that interview? | ||
| We're talking about that interview. | ||
| That's why I was asking you, what interview? | ||
| Me and Tucker talking about Ben. | ||
| You and Tucker. | ||
| That I castigated him for being pro is real. | ||
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Cass, I'm happy-- I'll say it again. | |
| I'm happy to find those spaces where you castigated him and send them to Skylar. | ||
| And you can decide to share them with your audience or not. | ||
| We'll put it in right right in here if there's a example of a clip of me doing that. | ||
| It's actually I abstained from doing that and told Tucker that it's not something that I would do. | ||
| Okay, then you go on to talk about me attacking Rabbi Shmuley. | ||
| My audience has already seen him attacking me over the last two years. | ||
| And I'm just gonna ask you a basic question. | ||
| Does a black person or any person have a right to defend themselves? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Okay, because that is interesting because Rabbi Shmuley and his daughter have attacked me and made videos of me for two years straight. | ||
| I have responded once and you have now, you're basically saying that I'm anti-semitic for responding. | ||
| So I'm just, I want your, your perception of when it is that a black person is allowed to respond. | ||
| So Candace, so first of all, I know Shmuley peripherally, we've probably met a half a dozen times. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He is an incredibly knowledgeable man. | ||
| He formed the Lachlan Society at Oxford. | ||
| Incredibly knowledgeable man. | ||
| I don't know all the things that he has said about you. | ||
| Judaism predates Christianity, but it's also Christianity as well to an extent, called Lashon Hara, the evil tongue. | ||
| That to gossip, to say certain things like that is really a huge avera. | ||
| It's a huge sin. | ||
| It's a huge chay. | ||
| I don't know all the things that he has said about you. | ||
| I do know he's called you an anti-Semite, and so have I. | ||
| That's not a personal attack on you and your family. | ||
| So, For you to call a man who is extremely knowledgeable, an unholy rabbi, and his hag daughter. | ||
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W. Forgetting about what he may or may not have done. | |
| If he's attacked you personally, if he's said whatever horrific things about you personally, that you are a blankety blankety blankety blankety blank. | ||
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He's wrong. | |
| If he's attacked you or your children or your family, your mother, for you to, rather than comment on whatever he's done, to call him an unholy rabbi, that is way out of line. | ||
| You don't even know what a rabbi's supposed to do. | ||
| So let me ask you a question. | ||
| Do you view that as anti-Semitic for me to respond? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So it's anti-, okay. | ||
| So he can attack me for two years. | ||
| Is he a racist, just to be clear? | ||
| I don't know anyone who attacks you, so I can't comment. | ||
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It depends. | |
| So what if I say that the definition of racism changes and if you attack a black person, you're a racist? | ||
| Candace, you don't get to get away with that. | ||
| At the beginning of this discussion, you did say that you can't tell a black person. | ||
| It's been two years consistently of him and his daughter attacking me. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
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I wasn't there. | |
| I'm asking you. | ||
| I'm asking all of you. | ||
| Okay, but if you're saying that you weren't there, why would you put this into writing? | ||
| Isn't it incumbent upon you to research what's happened before you start saying to me that defending myself is anti-Semitic? | ||
| Candace, if he attacked you personally, if he said you were a black fill-in-the-blank, then he should be reprimanded for that, but it doesn't justify what you did. | ||
| You don't know what a rabbi does. | ||
| You don't know our theology. | ||
| How dare you call him an unholy rabbi? | ||
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How dare you go into the misogynistic... Oh, sorry, excuse me. | |
| The anti-Semitic cult of his hag daughter, something used throughout the late 18th and early 20th century. | ||
| Sorry, sorry. | ||
| Hag is now anti-Semitic? | ||
| So that is a term of his hag daughter that goes back into the witches of Eastern Europe. | ||
| Why did you have to call her a hag daughter? | ||
| Just to be clear, because she's a witch. | ||
| I think she's a witch. | ||
| That's not because she's Jewish. | ||
| I would call someone a hag of any color. | ||
| I think she's a witch, what they have done over the last two years. | ||
| I believe his daughter is a hag. | ||
| I said that because that's what I believe. | ||
| You may disagree with me on that, but to say that's anti-Semitic is ridiculous. | ||
| I would call any person a hag. | ||
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Candace, Candace. | |
| I'm gonna be very clear without trying to be insulting, so please forgive me if it comes off wrong. | ||
| Okay, it's not meant to. | ||
| It's fine, you can insult me. | ||
| I don't want to. | ||
| I've dealt with two years of a rabbi insulting me, so I'm totally clear with this. | ||
| I have no desire to insult anyone. | ||
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Yes! | |
| But do you understand, are you familiar with the history of the Grimm fairy tales and the folk tales of Eastern Europe? | ||
| I know that we can go back and we can also say- No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm asking a specific question. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That the witch archetype of those fairy tales were specifically modeled and called the Jews. | ||
| That the Jews of that part of the world were called hags and witches specifically because they didn't eat the same food, they had different practices, and they were excluded that way as part of the bloodline. | ||
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So you are saying that we can look at- By calling a rabbi's daughter a witch, You have tapped into an anti-Semitic trope that goes about hundreds of years, whether you mean to or not. - Is it anti-Semitic? - Now, now that I've told you that, okay, do you think maybe there are better words to call her than a hag daughter? - I'm actually not gonna edit my language for two people that have been attacking me for two years | |
| And so what I'm going to say is that, and what I'm going to say is that, and I want to be very strong on this, I am not going to be told whether you want to dress it up as anti-Semitism, you want to dress it up as that, that I cannot respond and defend myself. | ||
| I'm certainly not going to be told that I need to be contained in how I respond after two years of consistent attacks from two individuals. | ||
| So I want to just say on that point, You and I will never come to an agreement. | ||
| I stand by everything that I said about him, and I'm not going to have it. | ||
| Everything that I say, including yesterday, when he says that me finding the products and stuff that he sells and promotes as a rabbi to be unholy, to say that I'm only saying that because it's made in Israel, is totally ridiculous. | ||
| What it looks like to a lot of people, and I'm going to tell you this and I'm expressing this, In case you are an individual, as I'm sure you are, that is concerned about the rise of antisemitism. | ||
| But my suspicion is that people that are watching this are going to think that now we are using the word antisemitism like BLM began using racism, right? | ||
| Which is to say that you cannot... | ||
| Let me finish my statement. | ||
| I'm just telling you what I am going, this is my suspicion, and I have tons of Jewish listeners, but given what you've said about Dave Smith, who is a libertarian, he is not a far-left liberal, he just does not support what Israel is doing. | ||
| So in this, you have said that Jewish people, you've made comments about a lot of Jewish people who maybe don't agree with what's happening in Israel. | ||
| You are now saying that a person who's been attacked for two years still needs to be careful in how they approach a Jewish person that's been doing the attacking. | ||
| No one is going to accept that. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| And then to say this particular word, it sounds like everything that anybody says, we first need to weigh it against the feelings of somebody and their history. | ||
| I could find examples of black people being called witches. | ||
| I can't then say that nobody can ever call a black person a witch, you know, even if it has what happened in Salem. | ||
| You could go on and on, right? | ||
| But the point is that if you're a black person, you've been attacking for two years. | ||
| I don't care if a person calls him a rabbi. | ||
| In fact, I would question what it means to be a rabbi. | ||
| Maybe you can explain if you have been consistently attacking and threatening somebody. | ||
| Literally, he gave a quote to the Jerusalem Post, which actually I like the Jerusalem Post. | ||
| They report on things very accurately, in which he says that he wants to bankrupt Candace Owens. | ||
| That is a direct threat to somebody's livelihood. | ||
| It is despicable. | ||
| Guys, you can talk over me all day. | ||
| You can scream. | ||
| rabbi does not mean that people cannot say, but it is pointingly ridiculous that you are using finances as a mode of threat against people because you don't like their speech. | ||
| It is ridiculous. | ||
| And let me tell you what, that leans into an anti-Semitic trope about Jewish people and money for a rabbi to stand up and say, let's bankrupt her. | ||
| You can scream. | ||
| I'm not saying I've let you talk a lot. | ||
| That's not that's not fair. | ||
| I've let you talk a lot. | ||
| Kenneth, it's your show. | ||
| You're going to edit and say what you want to say. | ||
| I'm not going to edit this whatsoever. | ||
| I promise you. | ||
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| Great. | ||
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Terrific. | |
| I appreciate that. | ||
| If someone is attacking you, you can defend yourself. | ||
| And if someone is saying a bad thing about you, I would even go and defend you as well for them saying that she's a black such and such, she's a female such and such, she's whatever it may be. | ||
| If he's attacking you, again, I'm not I'm privy to those two years of attacks that you've had. | ||
| But the moment you start saying things like an unholy rabbi when you do not know a rabbi's job and you don't know Judaism, you don't know what is considered kadosh, what is considered holy or not holy in Judaism, when the moment you make those kind of comments, you've crossed a line. | ||
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And you didn't need to make them. | |
| I get you're angry. | ||
| I get you feel violated by him. | ||
| I get you feel that he attacks you unjustifiably. | ||
| I haven't been part of the discussions, so I think he may have. | ||
| But that doesn't ever give you, then, the right to say what you said. | ||
| And it demonstrates, again, a pattern of behavior of an unawareness that you have about Jewish theology, a lack of awareness you have about Jewish history, and about anti-Semitism. | ||
| The fact that you can't accept What all academics, I shouldn't say all, because everything is academic, but all, but what academics, what Lord Sacks, what theologians all accept about that anti-Semitism is the unique ape that mutates, what Prager has done a PragerU video on, the fact that you can't even accept that is in itself problematic. | ||
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I just, I think that... Do you understand that you have decided that you, Candace Owens, That's not, that's not what I've said. | |
| That's not, I've never said these things. | ||
| I didn't say I was more knowledgeable than my wife. | ||
| I just said, I call his daughter a hag and I meant it. | ||
| I'm not taking the words back. | ||
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That's what I've said. | |
| Can someone do like a cap cut edit of Candace Owens? | ||
| We got to make a cap cut edit of her where it has like, kind of like the alarm sound. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Someone's got to make a cap cut edit of Candace, like a she's her. | ||
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Edit. | |
| We gotta get it going viral, man. | ||
| We need to get her all the way. | ||
| I don't know if she ever will go all the way. | ||
| She's going pretty far for her position. | ||
| But... The problem is she's still going like, well, I'm not anti-Semitic and I love my Jewish listeners and I don't like Hitler and, you know, so... She's not her yet, but she's getting there. | ||
| She's definitely rising. | ||
| Candace Rising. | ||
| Does this really go on for another hour? | ||
| What the what? | ||
| The fact that you can't accept that the definition of antisemitism, that you think you know the definition better than scholars, academics, Jewish theologians, better than rabbis, is a level of hubris. | ||
| As I say, you may know all sorts of things about all sorts of topics, but you're now dancing in a field where Shapiro dances, I dance, where Rabbi Shmuley, you know, and I'm trying to tell you that you're repeatedly doing anti-Semitic behavior, but your underlying premise that you said at the beginning of our dialogue was that you don't accept that definition of anti-Semitism. | ||
| What I said is I don't accept that definitions mutate, is what I said to you at the beginning of this dialogue. | ||
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And I'm telling you that's the definition of anti-Semitism. | |
| You have now said that you know more than Lord Jonathan Sacks, who I believe, I'm gonna guess, actually your father-in-law, because it's not that big of a world there. | ||
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And you can ask anyone about Lord Sacks. | |
| You are now saying that you don't accept the definition. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| What I'm saying to you is that there's debate even amongst Jewish people about the definition of anti-Semitism, as I pointed to you. | ||
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No, that's a pretty much accepted one. | |
| No, that's a pretty much accepted one that you take. | ||
| He's such an asshole, dude. | ||
| Such a fucking asshole. | ||
| No, that's not true! | ||
| You don't want to talk about that. | ||
| - It has definition, it comes from the word define. | ||
| If it has definition, it has a shape, right? | ||
| You can't say the shape can mutate, the square can become a circle, can become a triangle. | ||
| That means that it has no shape. | ||
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You're talking about an amoeba, right? - I'll say it again. | |
| It mutates because the definition, again, I'm quoting Lord Saxon, directly quoting him, where he says that Jews have, this is his definition. | ||
| It's pretty much accepted. | ||
| Jews have no right to exist collectively as Jews with the same rights as other human beings. | ||
| Yes, that sounds like a definition. | ||
| And the reason that it mutates, how that becomes manifest, is because in the Middle Ages, it's about religion. | ||
| When they come out of the shtetls, Go into the cosmopolitan areas and in the 18th through 27th or 20th century, excuse me, that hate Man has now manifested and mutated. | ||
| So it's not about religion. | ||
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It's about race. | |
| Just so I'm clear, did Lord Sacks say it mutates or are you saying it mutates? | ||
| I'm sorry, I couldn't hear, I apologize. | ||
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Did Lord Sacks say it mutates or are you... Lord Sacks. | |
| He says it mutates Correct. | ||
| Can you just re-say the quotation, his direct quotation? | ||
| That it is a hate that mutates. | ||
| It is a hate that mutates. | ||
| It is a virus, he calls it, that mutates. | ||
| And that he's not alone in that. | ||
| And then by the time you get to the 20th century, it now has mutated to be anti-the nation. | ||
| So the hate manifests as first religion, then as race, and now as nation. | ||
| So would you say that anybody who takes issue with anything that Israel does is an anti-Semite? | ||
| Of course not. | ||
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That's ludicrous. | |
| That's a ludicrous statement. | ||
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That's a ludicrous statement. | |
| Okay, I'm glad you said that because earlier when we were talking about Dave Smith and I said that some Jewish people don't agree with what Israel is doing as a nation, you suggested that they were self-hating Jews. | ||
| That's not what I suggested. | ||
| What I said is there's a very difference between supporting Israel and supporting Bibi or the government. | ||
| There's a huge difference. | ||
| Support of Israel is to understand, and I think, again, this is a place... Eugene Bishop, who was one of the heads of the Central Conference of American Bishops, a great Catholic leader, said a number of things, and Monsignor Royal Batican, blessed memory, I actually heard him say this. | ||
| Royal said he was one of the first people to do interfaith dialogue after Vatican II. | ||
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And Royal said the following. | |
| He said that No non-Jew can ever fully understand the relationship between the Jewish people and the land of Israel, in the same way that no Jew can understand how a bunch of old bishops, excuse me, old cardinals, go into a building, white smoke comes out, and suddenly one of them is infallible. | ||
| It's a quote from Royal Vatican, blessed remember, one of the founders of interfaith dialogue in the 60s and 70s. | ||
| What I'm trying to explain to you is our tie to Israel, But when you make an anti-Zionist, not just you, but anyone makes a comment, an anti-Zionist comment, that is anti-Semitism. | ||
| But when you say anti-Zionist... When you say anti-Zionist, you don't mean criticizing Israel's government. | ||
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No, you can criticize the government. | |
| Okay, so I'm just not... But criticizing... Okay, but there's... Let's go... Can we follow that path for a moment? | ||
| Because I think this might get us somewhere. | ||
| As I said from the beginning, I'm optimistic I'd like to get somewhere. | ||
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To criticize Israel's government is one thing. | |
| If you want to do that, great. | ||
| Especially if you want to criticize America's involvement in its relationship with Israel, you're an American citizen. | ||
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I'm supportive of that. | |
| But, understanding... Have you ever read the Covenant of 1988 for Hamas? | ||
| No, I have not read the Covenant of 1988 for Hamas. | ||
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So let me tell you about Hamas. | |
| In their charter, which you can find easily online, the Covenant of 1988, they claim that they are a subsidiary for the Grecian of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
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I'm sure you know a lot about it. | |
| And they call for the obliteration of all Jews. | ||
| They say in Article 7 that the Muslim Day of Judgment will not come Until every Jew is killed and those few who still live hide between, and this is a quote, between the rocks behind, excuse me, behind the rocks and the trees, and the trees call out, O Abdullah, O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, I'll kill him. | ||
| The definition of a Palestine, which there is no historical Palestine, the definition of a Palestine from the river to the sea, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, That's kind of cack. | ||
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The trees, the trees are gonna be tattling. | |
| The trees will say, Allah! | ||
| There is a Jew hiding behind... | ||
| Behind me. | ||
| Oh, that's terrible. | ||
| Just horrible. | ||
| I cry every day. | ||
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Meshugganah. | |
| I cry every day. | ||
| Over the charter for Hamas, where it says the trees will tell God that the Jews are hiding behind them. | ||
| I cry every day. | ||
| Israel. | ||
| It is, as Lord Saxon said, it is That they don't have a right to live collectively in a nation. | ||
| And so, it's one thing to say, I don't agree with what the government's doing. | ||
| It's an entire other thing to create a moral equivalency, which you keep doing inappropriately. | ||
| A moral equivalency between anything Israel does and what happened October 7th. | ||
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There is no equivalency. | |
| Israel's not going out to go out and try to go into Arab homes and to take and torture a child in front of the parents and then kill the child and kill the parents. | ||
| That's literally what they do. | ||
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They're literally murderers. | |
| I think we might be having a fundamental disagreement on what moral equivalency is and I tend to agree with Dave Smith that actually what moral equivalency is is saying that irrespective of anything we are going to judge these people the same. | ||
| That would be morally equivalent, right? | ||
| But we don't need to go into that because I didn't do any of that and I just totally disagree with how you've characterized my discussion. | ||
| with tucker carlson at all because like i said i clearly said i didn't know what hamas did and then i said that it's sad when a palestinian child dies and then you agree that it's sad when a palestinian child dies so i don't understand why these two statements seem to you to be trying to morally equate anything i just am making two statements minutes and 20 seconds into your video you make the comment about it being i believe that's the time space you make the comments to a modern stance and everything else is extremist and what i'm trying to explain to you is that once and i hope once you see the idea film we can have another dialogue | ||
| well no i'm just i'm just saying that i do think that when anything you know horrific happens it turns a lot of people into extremists overnight and they become very extreme in their language you live in a You have, you have not let me finish my statement, okay? | ||
| I've let you talk very much. | ||
| What I have said is that when anything happens, what tends to happen after that is people become very extreme in their rhetoric. | ||
| And actually there is a really good example. | ||
| Is it Joel over at Braveheart who wrote something very extreme following October 7th online. | ||
| And then a couple days later, he wrote a long paragraph apologizing and saying why he was emotional, why his rhetoric was extreme, and what he actually wants to accomplish. | ||
| He recognized his own emotion. | ||
| And people get very extreme when they're emotional. | ||
| It's understandable. | ||
| But when they are in that emotion, they start to perceive other people who are actually saying what they've always said as somehow attacking them or saying something that's wrong, and then usually You know, the scales fall from their eyes, the more distance there is from the actual event that took place, and they're able to hear things more rationally again. | ||
| That is all that I was saying with Tucker, is I haven't really moved any of my stances whatsoever, and that is why people are bothered. | ||
| Whether you think that's understandable or not is not going to change things. | ||
| I do want to get to this, though, because like I said, we're not going to agree on Rabbi Shmuley. | ||
| We're not going to agree on his daughter. | ||
| I'm not going to agree on your interpretation that my defense of myself is somehow anti-Semitism. | ||
| I intend to keep defending myself against somebody that I view to be absolutely despicable. | ||
| And actually, what I will say is that in terms of anti-Semitism, I think a lot of it stems from what I would say is individuals feeling that amidst their own communities, let's remove dues from this. | ||
| If a black person does something wrong, I immediately call it out on my show. | ||
| I've said tons of things about black people acting like thugs. | ||
| I've stood up against black people when they were using racism, basically just to absolve themselves from any critique. | ||
| But when it comes to the Jewish community, it's very odd, I think, to watch The indefensible get defended, right? | ||
| The indefensible get defended. | ||
| Like what Rabbi Shmuley, what Rabbi Shmuley did over the last two years, I would expect people to come out and say, it's obviously wrong. | ||
| Instead, what we have is you coming out and saying, well, what Candace is saying in defense of herself is actually what's wrong, rather than saying, maybe both. | ||
| Maybe saying what Rabbi Shmuley did was absolutely wrong. | ||
| But you can't take the time to look into what he said for the last two years, is what you're saying. | ||
| But you wrote this article in defense of him. | ||
| Candace. | ||
| This is not about Shmuley, and it was not in defense of him. | ||
| And I said to you earlier in this talk, if he was saying inappropriate things, he should be reprimanded for that. | ||
| That's not what you said here in your article, though. | ||
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This is about you and your pattern of behavior and your pattern of words. | |
| And I have no issue. | ||
| And maybe you should do a little bit more reading of what I've written. | ||
| You wrote, like any father, Shmuley defends his children when attacked. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| I have taken on the unethical behavior of Jewish leaders and Jewish organizations publicly to the detriment of my own life. | ||
| I've taken on Jonathan Greenblatt for five years of what he's done to the ADL. | ||
| I got the receipts to prove it. | ||
| You can read the articles. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I've exposed him for what he's done that is not right. | ||
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So when you make a comment Like when someone does something wrong in the Jewish community, the Jewish community doesn't say anything. | |
| How much you want to bet? | ||
| How much you want to bet that like all Jews, he spoke out against Greenblatt because Greenblatt is supporting left-wing groups that undermine Israel? | ||
| How much you want to bet when he says, well, I've been writing about Greenblatt, bro. | ||
| They hate Greenblatt because Greenblatt is a left-wing partisan at the ADL and has backed American left-wing groups that are critical of Israel, like Ilhan Omar, for example, or certain BLM leaders. | ||
| How much you want to bet? | ||
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| Oops! | ||
| Accidentally, I don't know where we were, but let me pull this up. | ||
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Let's see if we can find some of that. | |
| Rabbi Barclay Here we go | ||
| Over three years ago, I started writing articles about the evils of BLM, which has always been committed to the destruction of Israel, even having it as part of their manifesto. | ||
| I was castigated by other rabbis and Jewish leaders who were adamant that BLM wasn't really anti-Semitic. | ||
| Reform and conservative rabbis touted BLM and raised hundreds of millions of dollars for this corrupted, evil organization, most of which ended up in the pockets of its leaders. | ||
| Most egregiously of all, the ADL under Jonathan Greenblatt has fully supported BLM throughout these past years. | ||
| Under Greenblatt's leadership, the ADL shifted from fighting anti-Semitism to being a tool and mouthpiece for the leftist BLM Marxist agenda— And Greenblatt needs to make it right. | ||
| Judaism demands we rectify our mistakes with actions, not just words. | ||
| Okay, so it's always, they'll only ever criticize Jews if they're anti-Israel. | ||
| They'll only ever be against Jews if they do something that's against Israel. | ||
| Never if they do anything else wrong. | ||
| So that's like saying, oh I criticize black people all the time because I called Ben Carson and Uncle Tom once, you know? | ||
| I don't have a bias. | ||
| I'm not an ethnic supremacist. | ||
| I'm black and I can criticize black people all the time. | ||
| I call Larry Elder and Ben Carson Uncle Toms because they're not pro-black enough. | ||
| That obviously is not what she means. | ||
| 100% correct on that, by the way. | ||
| You see that comparison in how you are presenting people despite the fact that, factually speaking, Rabbi Shmuley and his daughter were the ones attacking me for two years straight. | ||
| I didn't even know who they were. | ||
| When you talk about, when you speak about me like that and make it seem like I'm, I'm sorry, let me use your words here, lack of knowledge or lack of wisdom, how do you think the public perceives that when I'm the one that's being attacked? | ||
| I'm not concerned about how the public perceives you or not. | ||
| What I'm concerned about is if you believe, and I cannot judge this because I'm not aware of two years, I don't follow you. | ||
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Okay? | |
| Just my life is too busy. | ||
| I got a congregation and teenagers and all sorts of things. | ||
| If you believe that Shmuley Boteach and his daughter are doing things that are attacking you on a personal level, not attacking your persona, not attacking what you do, I'm not calling you as anti-Semite, is attacking you for how you act, not attacking you as a human being. | ||
| Please understand there is a difference of who we are and how we are. | ||
| She dropped out of college. | ||
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Wait, please let me finish. | |
| Shmuley is attacking you. | ||
| If he is attacking you on any personal way, That doesn't mean it's okay for you to attack him. | ||
| You know better than that. | ||
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Wow, wow. | |
| They're so evil. | ||
| She goes, yeah, he's been attacking me for two years. | ||
| Yeah, but you can't attack him back. | ||
| You know better than that. | ||
| You know better than that, you dumb boy. | ||
| You don't know anything about our religion. | ||
| If he was attacking you, then, well, that's something, but you can't attack him back. | ||
| They're so rotten. | ||
| No, I actually, everything I'm saying about it, I'm like, if this is holy, like, you know, selling butt plugs with your daughter, I don't know. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I think it's gross. | ||
| I think it's disgusting. | ||
| And I do not, it's not the definition of holy in the Christian faith is what I would say. | ||
| It's weird to me. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| And this could be a difference in our religions, but by the way, your religion does not trump my religion. | ||
| So I think that you should respect that when I say it's unholy. | ||
| I am referring to my religion. | ||
| His relationship between him and his daughter is very creepy to me. | ||
| The sex podcast is very creepy to me. | ||
| The idea of sitting down and talking to your father about topics of sex in any regard is creepy to me. | ||
| Him promoting butt plugs that are sold by his daughter is creepy to me. | ||
| I have a right to say that I find this to be utterly unholy and that any faith leader At least in the Christian community would agree that all of this is giving us very weird vibes between the father and daughter relationship. | ||
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You're weird! | |
| I can say that all I want. | ||
| And I do think that part of it, and this is where we get to the topic of where people perceive this and they say, is this a form of Jew supremacy? | ||
| To say, suspend your Christianity because my Judaism matters more is the feeling that I get when you say, you don't get to say it's an unholy rabbi. | ||
| Pornography is unholy in my view. | ||
| You might disagree with that. | ||
| It is unholy. | ||
| To Christians, the topic of pornography, peddling pornography, selling butt plugs, you know, the commercialization of pornography is unholy, and I'm going to continue to call him unholy because that is what I deem him to be, and I say that as a Christian. | ||
| Okay, so Candace, if you made the comment, right, and you said that this man, rabbi or not rabbi, because it doesn't matter if he's a rabbi or not from what you're telling me, you're understanding your theology. | ||
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Okay? | |
| Your understanding of your Christian theology, I don't know what denomination or sect you're part of, is that what he's doing is unholy. | ||
| And for you to say that, from my Christian perspective, what this man is doing is unholy, I absolutely respect. | ||
| For you to say my position as a mother, as a woman, I find what is going on here is creepy, I don't find that anti-Semitic. | ||
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Mislead us to either of those comments. | |
| I really don't. | ||
| So please hear that. | ||
| If you'd said, this guy is creepy, okay, that's not anti-Semitic, that's your opinion on the relationship of what he's doing. | ||
| If you said, this business that he and his daughter, I don't know if it's he and his daughter or just his daughter, I'd have to combine their business, I have no idea. | ||
| But that this business is, from my Christian perspective, is very unholy. | ||
| That's not anti-Semitic. | ||
| It's not. | ||
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I mean, here, if you had said that, I wouldn't be talking about it. | |
| But I shouldn't have to say, as a Christian, because I am a Christian and it's unholy. | ||
| Okay, no, you said, you determined, you who are not a theologian, who does not know Jewish theology at all, and I'm pretty sure doesn't know what Gebarah or Mishnah are or how they're used, or the dialogues about marriage and intimacy, You've decided he's unholy. | ||
| Now, if you said, from my Christian perspective, he's an unholy man, or he's doing unholy things, God bless you, and I'm fine with it. | ||
| But you didn't. | ||
| You said it's an unholy rabbi and his had-dog. | ||
| And again, what I was really hoping to hear, which I haven't heard from you once in this very long talk, is the realization of saying, you know what, rabbi? | ||
| I hadn't thought about that. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I understand how that would be considered anti-Semitic and that wasn't my intention. | ||
| I have a problem. | ||
| Now say, you're right, Rabbi. | ||
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Now say it, say it, say, you know what? | |
| You're right, Rabbi. | ||
| That was anti-Semitic. | ||
| I was stupid coy and I didn't think of that. | ||
| I have a problem. | ||
| I've seen zero so far. | ||
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Other than the fact that you say you're willing to watch a documentary film by the idea. | |
| I've seen zero self-responsibility of saying, you know what, I didn't mean that, I didn't say that, or excuse me, I didn't mean that, that's not my intention, and I'm sorry. | ||
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I haven't heard that from you once. | |
| And that's really disappointing to me. | ||
| Well, I don't want you to be disappointed. | ||
| And as I always say to people, I know I'm serious. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this ugly face. | ||
| Look at this disgusting, ugly face. | ||
| I don't want you to be disappointed. | ||
| I understand that human beings... | ||
| Literally emotions. | ||
| Things have a lot of feelings, right? | ||
| Everybody has, you can say, I watched this and this is how I felt about it. | ||
| For me, the reality of what I have actually said, and the way that it is being interpreted, I don't think is fair. | ||
| Like, that's why I wanted to go through the clips of what you said, what you wrote that I said, versus what I actually said. | ||
| What she's doing is so wonderful. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| She's smart. | ||
| She's sharp. | ||
| She's put together. | ||
| Patient. | ||
| God bless her. | ||
| A hero! | ||
| She's a true hero. | ||
| She's really putting a lot on the line here. | ||
| She's putting a lot at stake and a lot on the line and risking a lot to do this. | ||
| So God bless her. | ||
| You said, when I did condemn Hamas, you're saying I didn't condemn Hamas. | ||
| You're saying I attacked Ben Shapiro. | ||
| You don't have the clip available. | ||
| I feel that actually what's happening here is you want me to apologize for things that I never said on the basis of how you felt And that's not fair. | ||
| I have a suggestion. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I have a suggestion. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You and I are both politically conservative, right? | ||
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I mean, I am, and I know you are. | |
| And I would hope that we're all facing the same direct way. | ||
| I'd like to ask you some specific questions about the things in that article. | ||
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And you just tell me. | |
| Okay. | ||
| And so if I misinterpreted something, if I misread something, if I misheard something, do you feel I misunderstood something? | ||
| You know, communication. | ||
| It happens, especially when we're doing writing. | ||
| Miscommunication happens. | ||
| So I'm going to ask you simple questions that would define anti-Semitism with the vast majority of rabbis, Jews, and theologians. | ||
| Do you believe October 7th was uniquely evil and on a whole other level than anything going on, especially anything going on in Gaza or anything else right now? | ||
| From a moral, ethical, your point of view as a Christian, I am asking you, point blank, do you feel that October 7th, what happened, is uniquely at a whole other level and depth of evil? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| I believe that what happened on October 7th is evil. | ||
| Do you believe it is a whole other level than anything else, especially what is going on in Gaza? | ||
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No. | |
| I think that there have been things that have happened historically, like the Holocaust, like what the Bolsheviks did to Christians. | ||
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W! | |
| W! | ||
| You're not answering. | ||
| I'm trying to answer your question. | ||
| I guess I would like you to explain to me, in your own context, Holocaust versus what happened on October 7th. | ||
| Why is October 7th uniquely evil compared to the Holocaust? | ||
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Maybe you can educate me. | |
| You don't know your history about the Holocaust then. | ||
| The Holocaust was a machine that was made and cost Germany the war. | ||
| So you would say October 7th? | ||
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October 7th was a specific intention. | |
| Remember that in the Holocaust, the first attacks are war attacks because it's all about a war effort on world domination. | ||
| October 7th is about to torture and Do such horrific things to civilians, to the weak, the innocent, the old. | ||
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So I'm asking you a very simple question. | |
| I'm ready to answer it. | ||
| I think it was evil. | ||
| And you know, if you, if you feel it's uniquely bombed a million Iraqi civilians, you're talking about just like if you're weighing against civilian costs. | ||
| And again, I think what, how you said about when you read the, you know, you watch the passion of the Christ and you have, you know, your eyes when you watch and I have my Christian eyes, very difficult for me to say when the greatest Holocaust that ever happened was against Christians and with the Bolsheviks surrounding us in barges. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| W. W is in the shot. | ||
| discount the things that have happened to Christians. | ||
| We are actually the most persecuted religion in the world. - Yes! - And it's never described as uniquely evil. | ||
| And so what happened on October 7th is evil. - W is in the shot. - What has happened in the past to Christians, what's happening currently to Christians in Armenia, it's evil. | ||
| So I, you're feeling that it's unique, it's probably, you know, I want to recognize it, but I don't want to sit here and pretend that I've minimized what I've been through. | ||
| I mean, unique evils, slavery, I'm a black woman. | ||
| I mean, there's tons of things that have happened, and I don't want to pretend that I think that when it happens to Jews, it's somehow more unique than when it happens to other groups around the world. | ||
| And what about slavery? | ||
| Do you believe there is a qualitative difference between what was done on October 7th and the horrible tragedies that are going on in Gaza with children being used as human shields and dying with and being killed with all of that? | ||
| There are tragedies going on in Gaza we both agree on. | ||
| Do you believe that there is a radical difference between what happened October 7th Let's go! | ||
| Do you believe? | ||
| and huge qualitative differences. | ||
| It's one or the other. | ||
| How it's happening is different. | ||
| How it's happening is different. | ||
| There's no question that it's different. | ||
| You believe it's the same way. | ||
| It's evil just the same way. | ||
| Children, innocent children dying. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| If the consequence of children is dying, of course it is an evil thing for innocent children to be dying. | ||
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Do you believe-- okay. | |
| So I want to make sure I'm hearing you. | ||
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Okay, I don't want to misinterpret you. | |
| I am asking for specific answers. | ||
| It is always an evil, and I again say this as a Christian, it is always an evil when innocent children are killed. | ||
| Always an evil. | ||
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So do you believe that October 7th is more evil than what's happening? | |
| No! | ||
| I didn't... Pardon? | ||
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I'm asking you. | |
| What? | ||
| I'm asking you the simple question, do you believe there's a greater depth of evil in what happened October 7th than any of the tragedies that are happening in Dallas this week? | ||
| Let me actually toss this back to you because this is a great question. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| This is a great question. | ||
| I'm glad you asked this, but I want to toss this to you because one of the things that was also radically misinterpreted, actually I was talking about Brian Mass in his language when he said that You know, there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life. | ||
| I thought that was horrifically genocidal to say that. | ||
| And that has been a huge conflict of whether or not what's happening is genocidal or if it's not genocidal. | ||
| And something that I don't think that we have a clear definition on is genocide. | ||
| And this is, obviously the word was created post-Holocaust. | ||
| And so I would just like to get from you because we're running, because we are running out of time. | ||
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So I'm not, I'm not trying to duck. | |
| I don't use the word. | ||
| You don't use the word genocide? | ||
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Nope. | |
| So you wouldn't describe the Holocaust as a genocide? | ||
| Um, I would describe it in other ways. | ||
| It's just not the language I use. | ||
| So for me to say that this is a definition would be arrogant and inappropriate. | ||
| But what percentage of a certain group of people have to die that would constitute a genocide? | ||
| Because I think that's part of it. | ||
| Listen, if we can just say X amount of people, percentage of people dying of the same ethnic group. | ||
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Candace, you don't, I'm telling you point blank. | |
| You're asking me to define a term that I don't go around utilizing. | ||
| People are saying in the live chat that he's used it before. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Let me see if I could find it Is there a Someone sent me this link From Human Events. | ||
| Will Chamberlain, Jewish-owned. | ||
| Palestine does not exist except as code for genocide. | ||
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How many times can we find it in this article? | |
| Three times. | ||
| By Michael Barclay. | ||
| Calls for the genocide of Israel. | ||
| Okay, so that's just a lie. | ||
| So he's used it before that's just a straight-up lie. | ||
| Oh, I'd ever say genocide does So I so I don't you're telling you're saying define this and what I'm saying is I don't use that term I am asking you a very simple question, which you have avoided a yes or no on. | ||
| I haven't avoided a yes or no on anything. | ||
| I've been answering you this entire time. | ||
| I am just saying that if the consequence, for me, I cannot, like, what happened October 7th to me was so horrific and was so evil, and it partially, the reason why I believed it was so horrific and so evil was there was no military target. | ||
| You were just targeting civilians, and civilians are innocent, right? | ||
| And so for you to then tell me, is it more or less evil when now innocent civilians... What is the number at? | ||
| Can you tell me what the number is at of Palestinian children? | ||
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No, I can't because Hamas stories aren't... I know, but I'm asking you. | |
| I'm not asking Hamas, I'm asking you. | ||
| I'm asking, I'm asking, when you're asking me to compare, compare, what you're actually asking me to do is to compare, is to state whether or not I believe. | ||
| Please let me finish. | ||
| I feel that that question, okay, is you trying to make a statement. | ||
| I believe, I believe that what happened on October 7th is a uniquely dark form of evil. | ||
| On a whole other level, on a whole other level in every way, shape, or form of evil than anything that is happening in God's. | ||
| Do you agree with my statement or disagree? | ||
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I don't need explanations. | |
| Do you agree with me or disagree? | ||
| I have said to you a thousand times, I feel like what you are asking me to do right now, I'm looking at the cost of life. | ||
| This is how I analyze things. | ||
| You can't agree. | ||
| You're not going to agree with me. | ||
| I am uncomfortable with the amount of innocent life that is lost right now in Gaza. | ||
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So you're not going to agree with me. | |
| Let's move on. | ||
| There's other stuff. | ||
| Because there's another piece in that article. | ||
| Because part of it feels like you want me to weigh, like, is Jewish innocent life worth more than Palestinian innocent life? | ||
| And I'm not comfortable with that. | ||
| You've already made that clear that you don't view it the same, or you'd be able to say that we have not. | ||
| I view innocent life as innocent life. | ||
| Like I'm saying, it's just innocent life lost. | ||
| Candace, you've made it clear you weren't able to answer yes to that question. | ||
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Fine. | |
| Let's move on to something else that is even more important. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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But I want to, again, state- No, no, no. | |
| I don't need more. | ||
| You've made it so clear, you're good. | ||
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I'm good. | |
| He's so rude. | ||
| That's how they are, though. | ||
| - Yeah, they are though. - Important for listeners to understand. | ||
| When you ask a question like that, okay, it's different than you saying, do you think it is justified for people to defend themselves? | ||
| You are basically asking me a question, is more Israeli life, is that more of an evil when it's lost than when more Israeli, than more innocent Palestinian life? | ||
| And I am not comfortable with that question. | ||
| - Candace, that's not what I said. | ||
| - But that, that is- - No, I made a statement of my beliefs and only asked you if you could agree or disagree, you couldn't take a stand. | ||
| I'd like to move to something else in that article that we have not discussed, because I am conscious of time, which is, you make a comment in, again, and I think you do want to discuss this as well, I'm going to guess, and I want to be conscious of your time, because I think it's important. | ||
| You said where you stand on October 7th. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| You stand where you stand. | ||
| You're stupid after a while. | ||
| You make a comment in your comments back to Shmueli Boteach about, and again, you make an equivalency where you talk about the Hollywood Jewish gangs, that Kanye West believes that, and that shouldn't we be able to talk about that? | ||
| And you make the analogy with Crips and Bloods, and I make the comment how anti-Semitic this is because it's a trope, It goes back almost 100 years. | ||
| There was it to end how Jews control Hollywood. | ||
| In the 20s, the Hollywood entertainment industry was started by a majority of them. | ||
| People's CEOs were Jews. | ||
| They couldn't get jobs in anything, any other business when they came to this country. | ||
| Many of them were sons of rabbis. | ||
| And there's a truth, there's a great book called Empire of Their Own, how the entertainment industry was started by Jews. | ||
| And how they did control Hollywood in the early days, they employed other Jews who were unemployable. | ||
| That stops by the 60s and 70s and is totally gone by the 80s and 90s. | ||
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Okay? | |
| And it is gone. | ||
| It is a trope that people say, understand that when we go back, remember we talked about the blood, the blood libel? | ||
| Blood libel has become a term that's understood by academics, anthropologists, socialists, not political, but social anthropologists. | ||
| The blood libel is when you're blaming Jews for the problems of people that, other people, that you're radically blaming them for because of the anti-semitism as a form of anti-semitism. | ||
| For many decades, you were told, oh, the Jews control Hollywood. | ||
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The secret cabal, they control Hollywood. | |
| You perpetuated that. | ||
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Again, I understand you're defending against Rumi Botath. | |
| I understand that you've explained yourself about Rabbi Shmuel. | ||
| But you made the specific comments about this Jewish group, I think you call them gangs or thugs, as opposed to saying that there are people who run Hollywood who are bad people. | ||
| I'm not going to question whether there are or are not. | ||
| Oh brother. | ||
| But you identified the noun to their adjective they're acting badly as a Jew. | ||
| When the reality is that Jews don't control home. | ||
| There may be many executives who are Jews, but that doesn't mean that they are anything other than Jew in name only. | ||
| They go to the temple twice a year. | ||
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You and I both know Christians like that, right? | |
| Yes. | ||
| So I just... We both know them like that, right? | ||
| And I wouldn't judge a Christian. | ||
| I would not judge Christians based on the idea that some of those guys who don't really practice Christianity, as my friends who are pastors define it, I'm not Christian. | ||
| That people call themselves Christians but don't act in a Christian way. | ||
| I would never use the noun of Christians. | ||
| Whether these people, their mothers were Jewish or not, you perpetuated an anti-Semitic trope that is almost a century old. | ||
| And as opposed to saying, there's some bad guys who are doing bad things, and when they're called out about it, they hide behind a call of anti-Semitism. | ||
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That's a very different kind of statement that you could have said. | |
| As opposed to talking about the Hollywood Jews. | ||
| The Jews controlling Hollywood. | ||
| That whole thing. | ||
| Well, I never said the Jews control Hollywood, but Jewish people have said that. | ||
| We can share an article up a link here. | ||
| That was published in the LA Times a couple of years ago where a Jewish man wrote, let's face it, we do run Hollywood. | ||
| That was totally fine a couple of years ago. | ||
| Maybe he's anti-Semitic though. | ||
| It's not ever been fine. | ||
| Pardon? | ||
| It's not ever been fine. | ||
| It's not ever been fine. | ||
| I'm just saying I like it this was something this has been said and it's actually funny because I was reading a very old article yesterday forgetting the guy's name I'm blanking on him but he's he was the founder of screw magazine he's a Jewish guy Al Al something I'm blanking on his name anyways he gave a very long interview about how you know the Jews hire the Jews and they get into Hollywood and like I said this was said not a hundred years ago | ||
| So this is something that many Jewish people have said, but sure, I guess you're saying that now it's a trope, but I just want to be clear that many Jewish people have said this in many interviews within the last 50 years, okay? | ||
| Now, I do want to press pause on that and ask you a question. | ||
| Is it possible for Jewish people to form a gang, full stop? | ||
| Define gang. | ||
| To form a gang. | ||
| I mean, let me rephrase that, because I don't even need to ask that question. | ||
| The answer is of course there is, because there were Jewish gangs in New York. | ||
| Okay, yes, of course. | ||
| Common sense, that Jewish people can form a gang, black people can form a gang, gangs exist, will always exist, Jewish gangs have existed and will always exist. | ||
| Like, you know, worldwide, gangs happen. | ||
| How absurd it is to say that if you think that there is a gang that is operating, to even suggest that there might be a person in the gang, that is automatically a trope. | ||
| That would mean it would be impossible for us to illustrate. | ||
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As soon as you say it's a trope and magically you can't talk about it. | |
| I gave examples of multiple people in Hollywood, okay? | ||
| We're talking about from Dave Chappelle to Kanye West to Cat Williams to other artists that are Christian that have said that there is some sort of a gang full stop that is operating in Hollywood. | ||
| I then gave an example of a list of exact names that Michael Jackson said were operating as a gang. | ||
| Rabbi Shmuley was among that list of people. | ||
| So to say that we can't even explore that possibility, that Rabbi Shmuley, you know, and that this list that somebody is giving or something that artists are saying might be true is somehow anti-Semitic, I'm not saying all Jewish people are gang members. | ||
| I am saying that it is, of course, possible that a gang is operating anywhere in the world. | ||
| That should just be allowed to be said without being accused of creating a trope. | ||
| I'm sorry, Candace, again, We're at the same place that we started at. | ||
| Of when I said to you, I don't get to tell a black man if he's feeling racist. | ||
| I don't get to tell a woman if you're experiencing this. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| I keep telling you that the things you have said repeatedly are hurtful to a huge number of people. | ||
| You're hurting our feelings. | ||
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Stop saying we control Hollywood. | |
| And instead of hearing any, wow, I didn't realize that. | ||
| All I have heard for the lengthy time we've been on, we've been on together, which I, again, consider gracious and kind of you, but all I have heard from you, not one sense of responsibility, not one. | ||
| You know, I said to you that if something is true or not true, I don't have issues saying I'm wrong. | ||
| I don't have issues. | ||
| Apologize. | ||
| But I haven't heard from you one sense of responsibility that you have Absolutely not. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
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You heard it! | |
| of tapped into a thousand year old blood libel trope a century old trope specifically about hollywood and and you keep going off well can't this be intellectually right can't can't you do this can't you've heard a bunch of jews did you want to absolutely not absolutely not okay you heard that you heard our feelings you did You have. | ||
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You continue to. | |
| Only you don't want to. | ||
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Then realize that what you're saying is It taps into centuries-old hate. | |
| Oh, shut the fuck up. | ||
| I'm just going to tell you that when I am speaking, I get what you are saying, I get what you are saying, but I'm going to tell you what this is reminiscent to me of. | ||
| This is reminiscent of when... So you can't just say I'm sorry? | ||
| Listen, please just let me finish my statement. | ||
| We're not sorry. | ||
| This is reminiscent to me of when I got interested about BLM and I... Leave us alone! | ||
| Leave me and Candace alone! | ||
| We're not sorry! | ||
| Back away from her! | ||
| Leave her alone. | ||
| I thought that there was corruption in BLM. | ||
| I'm a white knight for Candace Owens. | ||
| I will be her white knight. | ||
| I will be her white knight in white shining armor. | ||
| She will be my black queen. | ||
| People all over America were crying, insisting on the BLM narrative and I thought that there was corruption and that this was operating like a... Is this disgusting pervert bothering you, Candace? | ||
| the gang and they were taking money and there was money laundering. | ||
| There were tons of people, Al Sharpton among them, and it sounds a little, you know, you can't possibly say this, Candace. | ||
| You can't, it leans into this, it leans into that. | ||
| But my instincts are my instincts and I have a right to pursue those instincts. | ||
| And to the extent that any black person was harmed in the making of my documentary and then I ended up being proven right that there was corruption that was happening, I'm very sorry that they felt that way. | ||
| So I will say to the extent that any person who is finding my interest in what is happening in Hollywood feels that is leaning into some trope and that I shouldn't, you know, keep going. | ||
| I am sorry that you feel that way, but I am also going to follow up. | ||
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I'm sorry, that was just disingenuous. | |
| That's not an apology. | ||
| And that's not what it's supposed to be. | ||
| I'm telling you that I understand that people have feelings, but I would like to follow and pursue the facts. | ||
| And the facts are that many people in Hollywood are saying that there is some sort of a gang that is operating. | ||
| I am not blaming Jewish people. | ||
| OK, well, I'm not blaming Jewish people for that at all. | ||
| So I just want to be very clear. | ||
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That is an anti-Semitic trope that has led to all sorts of horrible things. | |
| What did it lead to in Hollywood? | ||
| I'm telling you, as someone who knows this, and by the way, again, maybe you should read what I was writing about BLM. | ||
| Because you and I were on the same page. | ||
| Okay, and did you also get called racist and people calling you all sorts of names that maybe weren't true because you thought BLM was just actually corrupt? | ||
| I actually took them on about the fact that all lives matter. | ||
| My house was vandalized four times. | ||
| And that was considered racist at that time. | ||
| So would you have been right to revoke that and apologize to black people because they said that that was racist? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| No one sat there and said, you're a racist about it. | ||
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They did. | |
| They said all lives matter. | ||
| They said all sorts of things. | ||
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And I got death threats. | |
| And as I say, my house was vandalized four times. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Let me guess. | ||
| They drew swastikas on your house? | ||
| What you doing, Rabbi? | ||
| They defaced my house with anti-Semitic symbols. | ||
| These people are ridiculous. | ||
| Who buys this anymore? | ||
| Who is watching this and on the Rabbi side? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| Who still finds any of this convincing? | ||
| I called for a strike of MLB on PJ Media of Major League Baseball the day that they decided to put BLM on Major League Baseball. | ||
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And if someone said to me, You know what? | |
| You're playing into a stereotype that goes back centuries old of fill in the blank. | ||
| I would have rewritten something. | ||
| I would have said, I'm sorry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I am telling you with absolute authority that what you are saying about Hollywood is anti-Semitic. | ||
| Boy, they. | ||
| There's not a, this is what theologians, this is constant and it is an expression of a blood libel going back to 1144. | ||
| You're saying, well, I don't mean to hurt someone. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If I apologize to you, my apology would be, gee, I apologize. | ||
| I'm sorry for what I did. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm sorry for how you feel. | ||
| I'm sorry, Rabbi. | ||
| Now you say it. | ||
| Say it. | ||
| Say, I'm sorry, Rabbi. | ||
| I genuinely am sorry if you interpreted my suspicions. | ||
| I genuinely am sorry if you interpreted my suspicion about a gang operating Hollywood to be some sort of a condemnation of all Jews. | ||
| It's actually the exact opposite, which is why I specifically named... I'm telling you that... Are you going to let me speak? | ||
| That is the reason why I specifically named Rabbi Shmuley, who was listed by Michael Jackson, who has been listed multiple times and who I believe operates like a gang member by his threats that he's been saying against me that he's going to bankrupt me. | ||
| I'm not going to pretend that I don't think that Rabbi Shmuley operates like a thug and I'm going to withhold me stating that clearly because you're saying, well, that leans into an anti-semitic trope. | ||
| Him being Jewish doesn't mean anything to me. | ||
| Him acting like a thug and making threats against my life and livelihood is something that... Okay, then why did you call him Rabbi Shmuley? | ||
| I did say Rabbi Shmuley. | ||
| I did say Rabbi Shmuley. | ||
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Do I have time out? | |
| Because you just said something, okay, that is really beautiful if you walked that talk. | ||
| You just said, him being Jewish, him being a rabbi, doesn't have anything to do with him being a thug. | ||
| I said that on my episode too, about the bugs in the cribs. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| I don't watch your episodes, Candace, forgive me. | ||
| How can you write these articles and then say, I'm sorry, I didn't watch it? | ||
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That is completely ridiculous. | |
| So you get to write articles and libel me, but then say I didn't watch the episode? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And he says it so condescendingly, so cocky. | ||
| Remember, I don't watch your show. | ||
| Oh yeah, you just write articles trashing her. | ||
| Leave her alone! | ||
| Get your filthy paws off of her! | ||
| You wrote a whole section on the episode. | ||
| I watch the clips that you do. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
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Get your hands off of her, beautiful, supple black skin. | |
| Leave her alone! | ||
| I'll protect you. | ||
| I'll protect you, Candace. | ||
| The Groipers, we got your back. | ||
| If they try to come around and mess with you, you just give us a call. | ||
| And no rabbi will put their hands on Candace Owens. | ||
| Not while I'm around. | ||
| They're going to have to go through me first. | ||
| You wrote an entire paragraph saying that I attacked him as a thug, a monster, all of this stuff. | ||
| And you bring up the Bloods and the Crips, which is from that episode, but failed to mention that I said they're using- I watched your Blood Crips part. | ||
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Wait, wait, Candace. | |
| I watched your Blood Crips part, and I read your comments on Twitter about calling the thug. | ||
| I specifically, in that episode of Bloods and Crips, said that being Jewish is being used It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Jewish whatsoever. | ||
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But you kept calling him a rabbi. | |
| And the simple reality is, if you really believe, okay, that Shmueli Boteach is doing something wrong. | ||
| He's operating on his thoughts. | ||
| Which I hear you believe. | ||
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If you believe that he is acting in whatever way, okay, calling him out on that? | |
| God bless you. | ||
| But when you take it to the place of putting unholy rabbi, because that's your definition, when you take it to the place of him being a... If he's a jerk to you, he's a jerk to you. | ||
| It doesn't matter if he's a rabbi, a priest, Jewish, or whatever, right? | ||
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So why bring up the rabbi and Jewish part? | |
| Well, first off, that's he goes by Rabbi Shmuley, so that just isn't... Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| But wait, I'm not... But why bring up... If someone's being a jerk to you, It doesn't matter if they're white, black, purple, Jewish, Catholic, or anything else, they're being a jerk. | ||
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OK. | |
| So all we ever need to do is call them out for being a jerk. | ||
| I didn't say Rabbi Shmuley is being a jerk to me because he's Jewish. | ||
| I just called him Rabbi Shmuley because that's what he goes by. | ||
| We are running out of time, so I do want to give you just a full minute here to wrap up and to express to people how you feel about this issue, because I think that's really important. | ||
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Look, first of all, I appreciate that you wanted to have a dialogue in any form. | |
| I'm extremely sad, and I'm a little bit optimistic. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| I'm optimistic that maybe you and I can have a dialogue after you watch October 7th. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
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Don't watch it. | |
| Don't watch the movie. | ||
| I can do with Skylar, your producer. | ||
| And put him in the right context to arrange it for me. | ||
| And if you really watch it, I'd be very interested in your reaction. | ||
| I'm a little bit optimistic about that. | ||
| I am severely disappointed that we have spent however long, and I do appreciate the time, however long together, I think over an hour probably, right? | ||
| And I do appreciate that. | ||
| I am extremely disappointed that I did not once hear, I'd like to give you a concept called Shubba in Judaism. | ||
| Shubba means that when you've done something wrong, you recognize you did it wrong, you apologize for doing it, try and fix it, you don't do it again. | ||
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Makes for a healthy society. | |
| And I am extremely, extremely disappointed that not once in our conversation did I hear you take responsibility for what you said. | ||
| You have taken responsibility. | ||
| I'm sorry if that made you feel that way. | ||
| I'm extremely disappointed that you have decided you have a clearer definition of anti-Semitism than Sachs, myself, Ben Shapiro, etc. | ||
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Going back, scholars, academics, whomever. | |
| I'm extremely disappointed. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| Not once have I heard you say, wow, I messed up, Rabbi. | ||
| I realize what you're saying. | ||
| I understand what I did wrong. | ||
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You know, I'm not going to phrase it that way again. | |
| Using Shmuley's example, you could just say, you know what? | ||
| You're right. | ||
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I don't need to attack him and his daughter being rabbis. | |
| They're just bad people to me. | ||
| I don't need to. | ||
| Make a comment about a Hollywood gang of Jews. | ||
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They're just bad guys who are running Hollywood that may have whatever relationships. | |
| That may happen to be Jewish. | ||
| You've tapped into ancient tropes that are anti-Semitic tropes. | ||
| You have repeatedly, repeatedly demonstrated a hate for Judaism and Jews. | ||
| Now I'm hoping that will change. | ||
| W. But it takes a certain level of self-awareness to be willing to say I did wrong, I'm sorry, I'm going to do it again. | ||
| I pray and hope that you will. | ||
| I believe, I do trust when people say you have a nice heart, a niceness, and I really would hope that ultimately we can, we're both conservatives, and there are a lot of Jewish conservatives and a lot of black conservatives, and we can all be on the same side, pointing in the same direction, as opposed to being split because of these kind of repeated comments. | ||
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Thank you very much for being here. | |
| And like I said, we are not going to edit you in any way. | ||
| We will definitely give you the ability to send that video that you said of me attacking Ben, which I am very sure doesn't exist. | ||
| And then, uh, last thing I want to say is I have faith in my God. | ||
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One question, Candice. | |
| I actually, this went very long and I have to get to a temple meeting and then I have lunch with a mutual friend of ours, actually. | ||
| Um, uh, so I don't know when I can get that to, does it matter if I don't get it to till late this afternoon? | ||
| Um, that should be okay. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I just, I just, I just wanted to be, you know, I want to be respectful and I also wanted to, Yeah, no worries. | ||
| And I would have you back. | ||
| We should always want more speech, not less of it. | ||
| Nobody should ever be calling for the censorship of any person. | ||
| I believe in free speech, even the speech I disagree with. | ||
| What I'll say is what I always say. | ||
| I have faith in my audience. | ||
| They know who I am. | ||
| They know what I have said and in what context I have said it. | ||
| I have a huge Jewish following and I am confident in their belief in me, especially in the fact that they've been listening to the show and they know That I hold no hatred in my heart against Jews. | ||
| I just don't believe any group is exceptional. | ||
| I don't believe any group, black, white, Spanish, you watch my show, you're gonna get offended. | ||
| And I am always going to call out wrongness when I see it. | ||
| And to the extent that we are using antisemitism as a tool to bar people from critiquing certain individuals a la... | ||
| Rabbi Shmuley, it is going to make an enemy of me, but I will never be an enemy to the Jewish people. | ||
| So ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching the show today. | ||
| I cannot wait to see your comments. | ||
| Stick around because, as usual, tomorrow we'll be back with a brand new episode. | ||
| Alright guys, I'm just picking this up really quickly because as you heard throughout that discussion, the rabbi said that after the conversation, he would send to us evidence within the Tucker Carlson interview of my having attacked Ben Shapiro for being pro-Israel. | ||
| He was unable to produce a part of that discussion with Tucker as evidence. | ||
| What he sent us instead was a tweet that I wrote and just to contextualize this in response to a tweet that Ben had written obviously to Ben writing Candace if you feel you will hate the one and love the other or you will be devoted to the okay um all right let's look at the comments let's see when she played her Hitler quote and he still stood by what he wrote I lost respect for this guy | ||
| 12 million Congolese murdered by Austrians, but for him, October... I think they mean Belgians, right? | ||
| But for him... and that's not even true, by the way. | ||
| All the atrocities against the Congolese by the Belgians is totally exaggerated. | ||
| But for him, October 7th was the worst in history. | ||
| Imagine having someone say, I'm extremely disappointed you over and over again when you're his equal. | ||
| Respect is earned, buddy. | ||
| The rabbi basically calls anyone who disagrees with a Jew anti-semitic. | ||
| W? | ||
| I cannot stand that he's trying to get Candace to say basically Jewish victims are more important than literally every other victim in history. | ||
| The wheels are turning. | ||
| Normies are waking up. | ||
| Honestly, Candace, props to you for not exploding on this man because his tone is so incredibly patronizing I could hardly listen. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| This Jewish supremacist is so awful to listen to, so painful. | ||
| 9,000 likes. | ||
| She asked him for the definition of antisemitism and he talks for 15 minutes straight just to basically say it's whatever I say it is at the time. | ||
| His virtue signaling is unreal. | ||
| I would never want to insult anyone after he just wrote an article absolutely eviscerating Candace publicly because she disagrees with him. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| The idea that it is anti-semitic to say October 7th was evil but not uniquely evil is extremely wacky. | ||
| He is the most patronizing and fake person I have ever witnessed. | ||
| He is the last person on the planet I would want representing my faith. | ||
| That's how they all are. | ||
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They think they're better than everybody. | |
| So Candace beating this dude in a debate is also anti-semitic? | ||
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W. | |
| Candace deserves a medal for enduring this nonsense. | ||
| He is either angry or condescending. | ||
| Universal acclaim. | ||
| Candace, define antisemitism. | ||
| Barclay, 2,000 years ago. | ||
| It's the oldest form of hatred. | ||
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3,000 years. | |
| Always a red flag when someone can't answer a direct question. | ||
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True. | |
| Well there's the Candace interview with the rabbi. | ||
| Total destruction of the rabbi. | ||
| It was another holocaust. | ||
| It was another October 7th, the way she destroyed him. | ||
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The way she... it was the worst kind of evil ever. | |
| Rabbi, let's see a little bit about this guy. | ||
| Rabbi Michael Barclays, an American rabbi, author, lecturer, the founding rabbi of this temple in Westlake Village, recognized as a theologian. | ||
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Masons of California. | |
| Nice. | ||
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this. | |
| Rabbi Barclay's website recommendations. | ||
| Torah.org. | ||
| Whatever the fuck this is. | ||
| And Masons of California! | ||
| Nice! | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| So Masons and the Jews together? | ||
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| Very interesting That's why you have to believe in Jesus No masonry. | ||
| No rabbi. | ||
| We must believe in Jesus Christ and his church, the Catholic Church. | ||
| That's our only salvation. | ||
| Not race. | ||
| Not ideology. | ||
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Not a cult. | |
| Esoteric rituals, but just the church. | ||
| That's her only refuge from this evil scourge that's taken over our country. | ||
| All right, I kind of want to watch, I want to skim through, she did a show today and she basically said she's afraid for her life. | ||
| All right everybody, happy Tuesday. | ||
| I kind of want to watch a little of that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean that debate, I mean, She's kind of just introducing everybody to this phenomenon. | ||
| It's the same rabbit hole that I went down. | ||
| This, for people that don't know me, for people that have never watched my show, people that don't understand what I'm about, this is exactly, I mean, literally, the same rabbit hole that I went down when I was 18 years old, uh, when I was a freshman in college. | ||
| I can actually show you, I think, my, um, The first article that I wrote talking about, like, Jewish power. | ||
| I mean, I can literally show you exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
| When I say this is exactly the same rabbit hole, what I mean is that She is basically questioning why is it that we can't criticize Jewish people? | ||
| Why is it that if a Jewish person attacks us, we can't respond? | ||
| If Jewish people control Hollywood, we can't acknowledge it. | ||
| If Jewish people bomb Palestinians, we can't feel bad for the Palestinians because that somehow creates a false moral equivalency. | ||
| And the crimes against Jews are uniquely evil, always. | ||
| The Holocaust, October 7th, are uniquely evil. | ||
| Anti-Semitism is completely amorphous. | ||
| It's whatever they say it is at any given time. | ||
| So she's basically finding out, or I don't know how long she's known this, but I think she's leading people down this path. | ||
| And it's the same inquiry that I that I started years ago, which led me to this situation in my life. | ||
| And I'll show you the first article that I wrote about this back in 2016, December 2016. | ||
| If you've watched my show, you have probably seen this before. | ||
| Yeah, so I wrote this article. | ||
| This is December 26, 2016. | ||
| 26, 2016. | ||
| Okay, so this is over seven years ago. | ||
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out. | |
| And I was a freshman in college. | ||
| I was in my first semester at Boston University. | ||
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18. | |
| I just turned 18, four months before. | ||
| And I discovered the same thing. | ||
| I wrote... Hopefully you can see it. | ||
| I wrote, this week President Obama said... And by the way, so just to give you an overview, this article is about When Obama left office, he had been feuding with Bibi Netanyahu for his entire presidency. | ||
| Obama and Netanyahu hated each other, and Obama was very outspoken about The occupation of the West Bank with civilian settlements created by Israeli Jews, which Netanyahu didn't like. | ||
| And there was more to it than that. | ||
| Obama also created the Iran nuclear deal, the JCPOA, in 2015, in secret. | ||
| He didn't tell the Israelis about it initially. | ||
| They were very unhappy about that. | ||
| And they didn't like the deal at all. | ||
| They think that we need to have regime change in Iran. | ||
| They didn't want to negotiate with Iran. | ||
| So Israel, and specifically the right-wing leadership of Israel, hated Obama. | ||
| And Trump wins the election in November 16. | ||
| And one of the last things Obama did, it was kind of a dig at Israel. | ||
| There was a resolution in the Security Council Which was condemning the civilian settlements in the West Bank. | ||
| Normally, the United States vetoes any resolution against Israel in the Security Council, but this one, Obama chose to not veto. | ||
| So the United States only abstained from voting on this resolution. | ||
| And everyone called them anti-semitic. | ||
| And this was really, this was like a last dig at Netanyahu before he left office. | ||
| He didn't order the UN ambassador to veto the resolution allowing the UN to condemn the settlement expansion of the West Bank. | ||
| Which, by the way, this is American policy. | ||
| It has been official American policy since 1967 to oppose the settlements in the West Bank. | ||
| And all Obama did was abstain on a resolution condemning the same settlements that we already oppose, that every president has effectively opposed since 1967. | ||
| But everybody called Obama anti-Semitic. | ||
| Fox News and all the conservative publications said, oh, this guy is the most anti-Semitic president ever. | ||
| He's a Jew-hater. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And at that time, I mean, I didn't like Obama. | ||
| I never liked Obama. | ||
| I was a hardcore conservative and You know, I supported Mitt Romney in 2012 when I was a freshman in high school. | ||
| So I had no love for Obama, but I looked at it and said, why are they calling this guy an anti-Semite? | ||
| He's only enforcing American policy that every president has for almost 50 years. | ||
| So this is the article. | ||
| It says this week President Obama set Fox News and the Republican Party into an anti-United Nations, pro-Israel frenzy after he refused to veto a Security Council resolution condemning Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's civilian settlement program in the West Bank. | ||
| President-elect Trump tweeted that things will be different. | ||
| Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz have demanded that the U.S. | ||
| pull funding from the United Nations until the resolution is somehow rescinded. | ||
| The whole of the right wing has thrown their arms up in the same tired hissy fit yelling the same exaggerated platitudes and talking points. | ||
| Barack Obama is the most anti-Israel president. | ||
| Barack Obama is an anti-Semite. | ||
| The U.N. | ||
| and Obama hate Israel. | ||
| It is worth pointing out that every American president since 1967 has opposed the Israeli settlement program. | ||
| It is worth noting that President Obama repeatedly called on Netanyahu to halt the settlement program and instead he accelerated it. | ||
| Why is it unreasonable that President Obama then refused to veto a Security Council resolution condemning that same program? | ||
| Never mind the debate about whether or not the settlement program is right or wrong, or about whether the UN is anti-semitic. | ||
| There's a very simple cause and effect. | ||
| Coming from a supporter of Israel, this was me writing this, I was a supporter of Israel, President Obama's decision was appropriate. | ||
| But this is beside the point. | ||
| In the first place, who cares? | ||
| The Republican establishment seems to be more outraged by Obama's slight to Israel than by the $20 trillion debt, three decades overdue promise to secure the border, the welfare state, the regulatory state, the Federal Reserve, NSA spying, the failing war on drugs, imminent war with Russia. | ||
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| Hello! | ||
| I was correct. | ||
| I was writing about this in 2017. | ||
| Donbass war had started three years earlier. | ||
| And so many other problems facing America. | ||
| And those are all still problems. | ||
| The debt is now over $30 trillion. | ||
| The border is now still wide open. | ||
| War on drugs is bad. | ||
| Federal Reserve printed 100% of the money supply in 2020. | ||
| Okay, I knew what was going on. | ||
| I knew the score. | ||
| I went to a Ted Cruz rally on the eve of the Iowa caucus in January 2016 and despite a half hour warm-up by Glenn Beck, the most disturbing part of the evening came when Senator Cruz began describing his first day in office. | ||
| It started with a standard list. | ||
| Overturning Obama's executive orders, tearing up the Iran deal, but maybe after item 5 or 6 he said he would order the transfer of the U.S. | ||
| Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. | ||
| I don't disagree the U.S. | ||
| Embassy ought to be moved. | ||
| That's common sense. | ||
| But I disagree that this is somehow high enough priority that a hypothetical President Cruz executes this not just on the first day, but early in the first day in office. | ||
| I mean, you get the gist of it. | ||
| I'll go through a little bit more. | ||
| Presently, this country faces existential threats that no American should be hearing anything about embassies or Jerusalem on day one, two, or three. | ||
| This is not an attack on Israel or Jews. | ||
| This is not pushing anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist conspiracies. | ||
| It's not sympathy for Hamas or any other Islamist organization. | ||
| This prevailing concern is that the American president must put the American people first. | ||
| After all, I guarantee that Netanyahu didn't promise the Israelis some concession to the United States on his first day in office. | ||
| This country is at war with medieval Islamist barbarians, hurtling towards war with Russia or China, facing the largest debt bomb in the history of the world, attempting to absorb tens of millions of illegals, coming to bear the consequences of millions of legal immigrants yet to assimilate. | ||
| Israel may be in peril, but so are we. | ||
| We are in no position to get tangled up in a 1300-year-old religious feud over a piece of desert the size of New Jersey as we stare down a fate similar to the Roman Empire. | ||
| For voicing this reasonable position, I was labeled an anti-Semite, a racist, a Nazi, a white supremacist, an alt-righter, even a drunk. | ||
| That's not playing the victim card. | ||
| That is to say that for five years mainstream conservatives have beaten identity politics to death. | ||
| Yeah, turn around and smear anybody skeptical of Israel obsession and the GOP as a bigot. | ||
| For months, I tweeted that the Mexican anti-Trump rioters speaking Spanish and waving their flag ought to go back to Mexico. | ||
| No one objected. | ||
| Yet Ben Shapiro, who made his career off of the crusade against identity politics and college leftism, decried me as an anti-Semite for suggesting the same thing about Zionists. | ||
| Unsurprisingly, the entire Jewish-Zionist contingent of Shapiro's publication descended from their enlightened patriotism to argue with straw men and call me a stupid, ignorant, Islamist-sympathizing idiot. | ||
| That sounds a lot like identity politics to me. | ||
| Conservatives will run to the right of Robert Spencer to call Islam cancerous, dangerous, evil. | ||
| They rebuff accusations of Islamophobia by retreating to the pretentious facts-don't-care-about-your-feeling line. | ||
| God forbid some free-thinking conservative dare question the conservative response to Obama's position on one Israeli policy, automatically label the Nazi. | ||
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| So, you know, I don't know if she's just discovering this or if she's just becoming outspoken about it, but I've been saying this since the beginning. | ||
| That's how I got here. | ||
| I said it from the beginning. | ||
| The same stuff. | ||
| I said, look, I'm not an anti-Semite. | ||
| I'm not anti-Israel. | ||
| I like Jews. | ||
| I like Israel. | ||
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But this doesn't make any sense. | |
| And I'm just getting called an anti-Semite. | ||
| And then that has steadily happened for seven years. | ||
| And now, I'm banned on everything. | ||
| You know, if you pull up my Wikipedia, you see what it says about me. | ||
| ADL, five things to know about Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Texas Tribune, what to know about the white supremacist. | ||
| Nick Fuentes, the latest white supremacist, says perfidious Jews should be executed. | ||
| Known for his white supremacist, misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, Islamophobic views. | ||
| He's promoted conspiracy theories against Jews, denied the Holocaust, advocates for the genocide of Jews. | ||
| He's an incel, supports authoritarian government. | ||
| He's a Christian nationalist. | ||
| But that's how it started. | ||
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I'm excited. | |
| And then he realized it's all true. | ||
| Realize all of these so-called tropes, they're all just true. | ||
| And they do run the media, and they do run Hollywood, and they do run the whole thing. | ||
| And that's why they have used their power to ban anybody from talking about it. | ||
| So, anyway. | ||
| So, she's right. | ||
| I mean, she's right, and she's walking people through this, but she's kind of waking people up to this stuff. | ||
| It's like step one is realizing that, yes, they are a gang, they are a mob, and they do hide behind the anti-Semitism Holocaust stuff, atrocity propaganda, so that you can't acknowledge their power or criticize it. | ||
| Then, once you do begin to acknowledge their power and criticize it, then you find out a lot of other disconcerting things about them. | ||
| But let's see, because she says that she's afraid for her life. | ||
| At least I'm very happy today, because we've been trending all day on X, given the interview that I gave with Rabbi Barclay yesterday. | ||
| A lot of you guys have so many comments regarding that back and forth. | ||
| Alright guys, a tremendous, tremendous response. | ||
| Honestly, thank you. | ||
| I think people of all races and religions were just shocked. | ||
| by the conversation that I had with Rabbi Barclay yesterday. | ||
| It wasn't really much of a conversation, obviously. | ||
| He spoke a lot more than I did, but I was happy for that. | ||
| I was grateful for that because I wanted people to hear his perspectives. | ||
| I know this is going to sound weird, but I kind of like Rabbi Barclay because I think he's honest. | ||
| I think he honestly, as I tweeted yesterday, views himself as better and more important, or at least his race as more important than other races, more significant, the history of his race as more significant. | ||
| And even in terms of someone being a supremacist, if you are honestly a supremacist, at least I can appreciate that. | ||
| Because you're not hiding who you are. | ||
| And that's why I meant it when I said that he will always be welcomed back onto this show. | ||
| I think it takes courage to have conversations. | ||
| And I think that what he did yesterday was actually quite courageous. | ||
| A couple of moments that you guys were shocked by, just like me, was, I guess, just the lack of definition when it comes to anti-Semitism. | ||
| It mutates. | ||
| He told us that over and over again. | ||
| It is a definition. | ||
| It is a hate that mutates, which essentially, at least the way I took it and I think most of you took it, means That it can just be whatever they say that it is, including the term hag. | ||
| I think I actually learned the word hag from watching the movie Hocus Pocus when I was a kid. | ||
| It actually was one of my favorite movies and they used the word hag and I used it to describe someone that is engaging in witch-like behavior. | ||
| Trying to cast a spell on audiences to convince them that Candace Owens is an anti-Semite when I could not be further from that sort of a categorization. | ||
| I am just, I have no hatred towards Jewish people in my soul. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| I've had many experiences with Jewish people growing up. | ||
| I've already recounted those. | ||
| We're not going to do that today. | ||
| But yes, Rabbi Barclay says that the scholars agree. | ||
| Kept talking down to me. | ||
| It's the scholars. | ||
| It's the intelligentsia. | ||
| They're so much smarter than us and they understand the definition just changes. | ||
| I think a lot of you guys were also surprised by the double down, right, in the face of overwhelming evidence. | ||
| I just thought there was no way, once we pulled the clips of me saying the exact opposite of what he claimed that I said, I thought there was no way that he was going to double down on it, but he did. | ||
| He particularly doubled down on the Hitler is okay, Candace thing, right? | ||
| Candace said Hitler is okay. | ||
| He repeated that over and over again in that hit piece. | ||
| And then I show that I did not in any way say Hitler was okay, because what crazy person would ever jump on a stage and say that? | ||
| Here's one comment from YouTube. | ||
| somebody wrote, when she played her Hitler quote and he still stood by what he wrote, I lost respect for this guy. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of comments looked like that. | ||
| And I think especially because so many people had never actually heard what I said in its entirety. | ||
| You've seen the libels. | ||
| You've seen the smears. | ||
| They've been printed for years. | ||
| I am still having to clarify. | ||
| For years, I have been clarifying what I said, and many of you guys have never heard it because you've just seen article after article, hit after hit, people trying to convince the masses that I said something that I simply never said. | ||
| And in watching that clip, I think people were shocked. | ||
| But yes, this is the truth. | ||
| And factually speaking, as a political pundit, whatever it is that you want to call me, as a podcaster, I have been smeared and libeled for years. | ||
| And I feel a power building in that people are getting tired of this. | ||
| We are being tired of being propagandized. | ||
| And that is why, for me, I feel in my soul at the time, is now. | ||
| And people are asking, why is Candace speaking out right now? | ||
| Well, the truth is, is I'm simply tired of being lied on. | ||
| I'm a human, right? | ||
| Eventually you get to a point where you say, I'm just not going to allow people to lie on my name anymore. | ||
| Especially again, as I said, when it's been happening for years. | ||
| And really all I've ever done since I've had a platform is just try to show you guys the truth. | ||
| I don't want to tell you what to think. | ||
| I can only share with you what my experiences are and hope that it helps you develop your own ideas. | ||
| So let's recap because I'm going to share some things I've never shared before. | ||
| Obviously, you guys know that I hit the scene in 2017 and I had a laser sharp focus on the black community. | ||
| Regardless of whether they occurred across Europe or in Germany alone. | ||
| I just want to skip this part. | ||
| We kind of went over that at the beginning. | ||
| article in that long interview with Rabbi Barclay already was jumping on the next smear. | ||
| His name is Isaac Schor. | ||
| He writes for, you guessed it, Mediite, as well as the New York Post. | ||
| And he is now publicly calling to have me fired. | ||
| He's written a lot of articles, by the way. | ||
| And he talks to a lot of people behind the scenes, telling them not to run any pieces on Candace Owens. | ||
| Don't talk about Candace Owens. | ||
| This guy's like, you know, doing a real hit job here. | ||
| And like a total rational journalist, he tweeted, how long will The Daily Wire stand by Candace Owens? | ||
| No one is asking The Daily Wire to stop Owens from peddling hatred and conspiracy theories. | ||
| They're just wondering why it's choosing to subsidize such behavior. | ||
| Mm, yeah, totally a rational thing for a journalist to tweet. | ||
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| Has anybody from Daily Wire spoken in defense of Candace Owens? | ||
| Is there anything from Michael Knowles or Klavan or Matt Walsh? | ||
| I don't doubt Shapiro hates her guts now. | ||
| Shapiro wants her dead, no doubt. | ||
| Because she's obviously going out there and... | ||
| Blowing the lid on the whole Jewish conspiracy, but I'm I'm really curious about her buddies because Matt Walsh and Michael Bells are totally red-pilled They just won't say anything because I don't know why they want to protect their money Maybe their wives don't want him to be anti-semitic. | ||
| I don't know but Klavan's a Jew I imagine Klavan can't be happy about all this so I wonder I wonder what the reaction because Clearly this is coming to a head. | ||
| I imagine they will buy her contract out soon or find maybe a morality clause, some reason to fire her and, you know, get rid of the contract. | ||
| But I think they're going to let her go soon. | ||
| She can't be going on her show every day and humiliating rabbis, talking about Jews run Hollywood. | ||
| Shapiro's never going to go for that. | ||
| So I think her time is coming to an end on Daily Wire. | ||
| I'm very curious what the others are going to say. | ||
| If there's going to be any solidarity, if they'll defend her. | ||
| And if there isn't, shame on them. | ||
| Because she's friends with all those people and they all know better. | ||
| Not Klavan. | ||
| Klavan's a Jew. | ||
| But Michael Knowles and Matt Welsh, they're both Catholic. | ||
| They both know what's going on. | ||
| They both know there's a Jewish mafia. | ||
| They're just silent about it. | ||
| So, I'm really curious to see. | ||
| It's very predictable how everybody's going to move. | ||
| I will be Very pleasantly surprised if they come out and defend her. | ||
| I'll be very surprised. | ||
| But I'm gonna withhold Judgment until, you know, any of this really happens. | ||
| By the same title, how long would the Daily Wire stand by Candace Owens? | ||
| Because as you've seen, I've showed you the whole history. | ||
| Aren't you convinced yet? | ||
| They've written so many articles. | ||
| Psychological terrorists. | ||
| They told you a thousand times anti-Semite, so it must be true. | ||
| And why would anyone hire and stand by a raging anti-Semite? | ||
| They've said it so many times, guys. | ||
| And he wasn't done. | ||
| He wrote a second headline yesterday, published on Mediaite. | ||
| Maybe, I don't know, just enraged at the fact that I had to sit down and spoke rationally to Rabbi Barclay. | ||
| I don't know what's driving this, but here's the headline. | ||
| Candace Owens endorses wild anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood. | ||
| That is the headline, you guys. | ||
| You've been listening to the show. | ||
| Have you ever heard me endorse a conspiracy theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood? | ||
| How sick and how sinister is this getting? | ||
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True. | |
| How utterly insane is this all getting? | ||
| True. | ||
| I have no idea what they're talking about. | ||
| They are insane! | ||
| How dare they suggest that? | ||
| I can't believe they would say drunk on Christian blood. | ||
| I don't know what they're talking about when she's... They say she endorsed that, what, by liking a tweet that said that? | ||
| What are they talking about? | ||
| They sound completely insane. | ||
| The gaslighting is such... Because she did like a tweet. | ||
| She liked a tweet that said, Rabbi Shmuley must be drunk on Christian blood again. | ||
| So that's what they're talking about. | ||
| And I love how she goes, just with like no sense of irony, she's like, what are they talking about? | ||
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This is getting really dark. | |
| It's like, I know Candace, they're just making shit up. | ||
| It's starting to feel like True. | ||
| - It feels like there's some sort of a bounty on my head and the person that can convince the public of something that is so ridiculous that I can't come back from is just going to receive a ton of money and Isaac Shore is really competing for that because do you wanna know where he got that conspiracy theory from? | ||
| A tweet that I had liked of someone defending me when Rabbi Shmuley was smearing me. | ||
| He dug up an old tweet of mine that was from February, tried to present it as if it was something new and something that was about him before our back and forth ever even broke out. | ||
| So I liked the tweet because it clarified the right date of the tweet saying that Rabbi Shmuley, this tweet is obviously from February 20th. | ||
| What are you, drunk on Christian blood? | ||
| Didn't even pay attention to the last part of the tweet. | ||
| I just obviously like that this person was calling out this BS smear. | ||
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Well, I like that tweet because it corrected the date. | |
| They're saying that I endorsed a theory about Jews being drunk on Christian blood. | ||
| I don't know what they're talking about. | ||
| This is so dark. | ||
| They're just trying to get me. | ||
| I did like a tweet that said that, but only because it corrected something in another tweet. | ||
| I didn't even read that part. | ||
| It's like one sentence. | ||
| That tweet was like ten words and seven of them were, are you drunk on Christian blood again? | ||
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So good. | |
| She's the goat, dude. | ||
| She's the goat. | ||
| Rabbi Shmuley, this tweet is obviously from February 20th. | ||
| What are you, drunk on Christian blood? | ||
| You didn't even pay attention to the last part of the tweet. | ||
| I just obviously liked that this person was calling out this BS. | ||
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I didn't even pay attention to the last part where it said that. | |
| It's like one line, 15 words. | ||
| I didn't even read the whole thing. | ||
| What do you think, I read the whole thing? | ||
| I didn't endorse that. | ||
| Likes are not endorsements. | ||
| Retweets are not endorsements. | ||
| Didn't you read my bio, you Jew? | ||
| What are you, drunk on Christian blood? | ||
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Retweets are not endorsements. | |
| You Transylvanian wizard. | ||
| Little did I know that Isaac Shore and a team of journalists are now monitoring every single like of mine on Twitter to see if they can convince the public that I am advocating for insanity. | ||
| This is how desperate they have become. | ||
| So I'll ask the question, what are we actually witnessing here? | ||
| Do you believe Isaac Shore is a victim? | ||
| Did you believe that he is a person who genuinely in his heart thinks that I think Jews are running around drinking Christian blood by that headline? | ||
| Do you think that Rabbi Barclay is a victim? | ||
| Do you honestly believe his interpretation that I was the one who owed the apology to him and the Jewish community on the basis that I just won't let them keep trying to smear me out of existence? | ||
| Specific people in the Jewish community. | ||
| God forbid, did she defend herself against Rabbi Shmuley? | ||
| Do you believe Rabbi Shmuley is a victim? | ||
| When you listen to these individuals speak and the things that they are publicizing, does that register to you as true victimhood? | ||
| Because what it registers to me as is power. | ||
| Real power hiding behind a veneer of victimhood. | ||
| The kind of power that can take somebody out and end their entire career if that person says something that they don't like. | ||
| And in this case, it's not that I'm saying things that they don't like, it's that I'm refusing to allow my voice to be controlled. | ||
| I want to be clear to you guys. | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you because everybody's noticing it. | ||
| Every single political commentator in America, every single one of them knows this. | ||
| That if you do not step out and say things that are radically pro-Israel, or if you are too quiet on certain narratives and they want you to be radically pro-Israel, you can lose everything. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| That is a fact. | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| I'm not feeling like I need to hide from that anymore. | ||
| Or be afraid to say it, rather, is a better way to say it. | ||
| Because I've endured this for years. | ||
| I'm just at the end of my rope. | ||
| I have given so much rope here, and I am just done with it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Every person that you are a fan of, they know this. | ||
| Every person that you line up to go hear speak, they know this. | ||
| Again, it's not even on the basis of what you say. | ||
| It can sometimes be on the basis of what you don't say. | ||
| That an entire mob will assemble, they'll write piece after piece after piece, until you subjugate. | ||
| If you don't subjugate, the bounty grows larger. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So yes, there was a large bounty on my head for the crime of refusing to suddenly hate Muslims and to condone Muslims getting bombed following October 7th. | ||
| Everybody can see that. | ||
| I have said nothing controversial because genuinely I was sad when a bunch of Everybody can see that. | ||
| It's ridiculous to pretend that it's anything else, okay? | ||
| There's no language that I have used. | ||
| But a bunch of innocent Palestinians, and yes, they do exist, Brian Mast, are now being made to endure bombing and all sorts of other horrific things that we are all seeing on Twitter. | ||
| That is my crime. | ||
| Everybody can see that. | ||
| It's ridiculous to pretend that it's anything else, okay? | ||
| There's no language that I have used. | ||
| There's nothing insane that I have said other than I would like to treat all races the same. | ||
| I refuse to be a supremacist. | ||
| I refuse to condone supremacy. | ||
| That is my crime. | ||
| So what I want to do here for all of you guys that are worried that something's going to happen to me is to just provide this full accounting of everything that I've ever done and everything that I've ever said that has been deemed controversial from this mafia, right? | ||
| This mafia of journalists that will not let up and leave me alone. | ||
| Because that's what it is. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What else could it possibly be? | ||
| You're acting like a mafia. | ||
| You are threatening me. | ||
| You are taking my words out of context. | ||
| You are telling people to fire me on the basis that I just won't be radical. | ||
| On the basis that I won't hate on command. | ||
| It's not about love, it's about hate. | ||
| You want me to hate on command. | ||
| And I want to be clear that what these journalists are engaging in is evil. | ||
| It is absolute evil to do this to any person. | ||
| And I'm not going to be driven crazy by it. | ||
| In fact, I'm going to be driven to more clarity by it. | ||
| I am going to grow stronger from this. | ||
| I am going to be a person that is more encouraged to speak out on what is happening to me. | ||
| I want the public to see what is happening to me because I think they know my heart and they know that what I'm actually doing is refusing hatred. | ||
| Balance of nature fruits and veggies is the most convenient way to get- That's awesome! | ||
| She's awesome! | ||
| So good. | ||
| I can't believe she said the words. | ||
| You know, because she's really been barking up this tree and then... | ||
| The interview yesterday, but for her to come right out and say, look, if you're not pro-Israel, they will destroy you. | ||
| And everyone knows it. | ||
| That's just like... I wonder who's even gonna cover this. | ||
| Is anyone covering this right now? | ||
| I saw Glenn Greenwald was talking about it on his show earlier tonight, but is anybody covering this? | ||
| God bless her. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| Pray for this woman. | ||
| Because they are going to try and destroy her. | ||
| I mean, they already are, but they're really going to go in on her after this. | ||
| I can imagine Shapiro's probably hopping on a jet and flying over there, barging down the door of the studio. | ||
| Shut it down! | ||
| That's wild, man. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| But you know, I feel like this all came from Ye24, because this is what A lot of this started in 2022 when Ye came out and said what he said. | ||
| And Candace Owens defended him for saying it because he's right. | ||
| And I chastised her a little bit at that time. | ||
| I was like, hey, and so did Ye, for that matter. | ||
| Said, hey, where are you on this? | ||
| We're out here telling the truth. | ||
| We're out here Putting everything on the line to take a stand here for not just America, but also Christianity. | ||
| And we said, where are you? | ||
| You're on the Daily Wire plantation. | ||
| You're working at Daily Wire and your silence has been purchased. | ||
| And I remember some of those conversations. | ||
| So I am really blown away. | ||
| I've always liked her. | ||
| I've always thought she was pretty solid. | ||
| She obviously wasn't outspoken at that point. | ||
| Not as outspoken. | ||
| Not this outspoken. | ||
| This is really unbelievable and a very positive development. | ||
| It just goes to show you have to just be honest. | ||
| You have to just put it out there. | ||
| It doesn't need to be extreme. | ||
| It doesn't need to be fanatical. | ||
| It doesn't need to be weird or like me or whatever. | ||
| But people do just have to start being honest about what's happening. | ||
| You know, that's what Ye made that decision to just put it out there. | ||
| He wasn't too big or too famous or too anything. | ||
| He went out there and told the truth. | ||
| And paid the price. | ||
| And courage inspires courage. | ||
| He took a stand. | ||
| I think he inspired many people in just the last couple years since he went out there. | ||
| And now Candace Owens is maybe the biggest one yet who's taking a stand. | ||
| So, it's pretty remarkable to see. | ||
| We'll skip this advertisement. | ||
| We'll see where we're going with this. | ||
| But yeah, I'm really impressed with her. | ||
| God bless her. | ||
| We love Candace. | ||
| And a Kasparian. | ||
| Her and I have basically been on the opposite sides of everything throughout our entire career. | ||
| She has said horrible things about me, but so what? | ||
| I thought this video was interesting and I'm going to show you what she said regarding AIPAC. | ||
| AIPAC is evil. | ||
| AIPAC is evil, evil. | ||
| My fellow Americans, are you okay with that? | ||
| Are you okay with a lobbying group representing the best interests of a foreign government telling you? | ||
| You need to bust your ass every day, work a job that you likely hate, and have a portion of your earnings taken from you by our federal government and funneled to the Israeli government so they can commit atrocities in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| Are you okay with that? | ||
| Because I'm not okay with that. | ||
| And nothing gets under my skin more, okay, than hearing these pieces of crap say things that make it clear that they feel entitled to our money. | ||
| Entitled. | ||
| Entitled. | ||
| That gets under my skin more than you guys understand, okay? | ||
| That's an impassioned response. | ||
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Let's go, dude! | |
| It's happening! | ||
| Dude, we're winning! | ||
| WGroiper? | ||
| Uh, yeah, WGroiper. | ||
| This is nuts, man. | ||
| The people are waking up. | ||
| May Allah awaken the people so that they may see the evil doings of Israel. | ||
| So awesome. | ||
| And you love to see it. | ||
| What she's referring to there are some leaked documents from an AIPAC meeting. | ||
| AIPAC, of course, alongside Big Pharma, is one of the biggest lobbying organizations in the United States. | ||
| They lobby our congressmen. | ||
| And I'm certain that that includes journalists, because you have a budget like AIPAC. | ||
| Why wouldn't you be lobbying journalists as well to essentially always fight to have pro-Israel narratives? | ||
| Again, I want to be clear, I am not anti-Israel. | ||
| This is what is so wild about all of this. | ||
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I'm just not anti-Palestinian. | |
| And so I hear what she is saying, and I believe that what is happening right now in this country, politically, is an evil. | ||
| It is wrong. | ||
| It is completely ridiculous to have a bunch of people that are fearful to speak and say rational things, rational things that they know to be true, because they know they can lose everything. | ||
| Because they know that a bunch of journalists will pop up like a game of whack-a-mole and try to spin things that you have said to make them much more nefarious than what you actually intended when you say them. | ||
| Because they know that these journalists have power. | ||
| Because they know that these journalists will not stop the onslaught. | ||
| And eventually, people are going to cave. | ||
| I can't tell you guys how wrong this is. | ||
| It is so wrong that every fiber of my being now wants to expose this. | ||
| I want to invite each and every journalist that is going to continue to engage with me in this way onto my show. | ||
| So Isaac Shore, take this as a public invite for you to come down to sit with me. | ||
| Can I come on your show? | ||
| Explain to everybody why you really believed that I think Jews drink Christian blood. | ||
| You wrote that article because you really believe it. | ||
| You're actually a good guy. | ||
| I'm sure you are. | ||
| I'm going to sit here quietly. | ||
| I'm going to allow you to explain yourself why you have written so many articles about me and why you believe that I have to be fired. | ||
| Because you actually believe, as you've written in past articles, that people like me and Tucker Carlson were anti-Semites. | ||
| Further to that note, further to me believing that the solution to all of this is simply daylight, daylight being the best of disinfectants, I have publicly offered to Rabbi Barclay, who wants me to watch the IDF footage, that not only will I watch the footage, but I am challenging him to use his contacts to also get me a trip to Israel and Gaza. | ||
| Allow me to be a reporter on the ground. | ||
| People feel like they're being propagandized about the matter one way or the other. | ||
| So why not send somebody who I think I've earned the trust of the American public? | ||
| I'm not someone that will ever be bought and paid for. | ||
| I'm not someone that will ever say things that I know to be untrue. | ||
| Why not allow me to go? | ||
| I'll talk to IDF journalists, I'll talk to Netanyahu, but I also want to speak to people that are impacted by this in Gaza. | ||
| I want to see what's going on in Gaza. | ||
| Why not allow someone like me to go there? | ||
| And I've offered that I will bring other journalists that I think are middle of the line, not one way or the other, simply reporting on the matters and similarly having to endure a bunch of threats and a bunch of smears. | ||
| People like my friend, who's just a commentator, Dave Smith. | ||
| A Jewish person who is now being told that he's a self-hating Jew because he won't get in line and, I don't know, deliver the AIPAC talking points. | ||
| People have a right to know what is going on, especially when it is so significant that you're willing to take out people for not saying the right thing. | ||
| So my offer stands. | ||
| Anybody who wants to write an article or smear me or libel me, you are invited to this show. | ||
| Hopefully, they'll take up my offer. | ||
| Hopefully, in a few weeks I will be out to Israel, and I will be out to Gaza, and I will be able to report to you guys what it is that I actually see. | ||
| But I also want to say this because it's so important. | ||
| I am Team God. | ||
| I'm team God. | ||
| I do not fear the media. | ||
| I do not fear journalists. | ||
| I do not fear AIPAC. | ||
| I don't fear Big Pharma. | ||
| What I actually fear is God. | ||
| I think that one day we are all going to have to account for the things that we have done and the things that we have said, and I want to make sure that I am not a person that is parroting lies. | ||
| Fear of losing your job, encouraging some people to spit out lies, I don't think that works in the end. | ||
| I think you've got to check your priorities. | ||
| And so with that said, I want to thank everybody who has been on this journey with me, people that have supported me. | ||
| I especially want to thank all of the Jewish people that have been in the comments saying how outraged they are. | ||
| And I know that it is especially difficult for you guys right now, because you are being smeared, you know? | ||
| I mean, I am not going to go away. | ||
| I'm going to use my God-given voice to talk about the things that are important for me. | ||
| I'm just asking to be left alone, or at least just report the truth. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, that is all the time that we have for today. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's really the foundational thing. | ||
| I think if you're not a believer in God, then there's really no reason to be outspoken about this because you can sort of lie without remorse. | ||
| If it's beneficial, if it's strategic, If you believe in Jesus, then you have to know that this is going on and you have to talk about it. | ||
| We're not permitted to live a life of lies, especially if the profession is being a political commentator. | ||
| You can't go on TV and lie through your teeth every day about it. | ||
| So, Nick, she talks about a secret conversation before you skipped. | ||
| Yeah, someone's mentioning that. | ||
| Let me see if I can find it. | ||
| Let's fast forward now to 2022, to a situation that the entire world was made aware of, obviously, when Ye, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, tweeted this. | ||
| He tweeted, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going death con three on Jewish people. | ||
| The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew. | ||
| Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone who ever opposes... | ||
| Someone says three minutes in? | ||
| It wasn't three minutes in. | ||
| Three minutes into this segment? | ||
| Or what? | ||
| Your agenda. | ||
| It's good to look at this tweet now without it being interpreted in the media. | ||
| Especially at last minute. | ||
| You guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone who ever opposes your agenda. | ||
| Now at that time, obviously, the reason why people were looking for me to make a statement is that this tweet came very close to the time that I had taken the notorious picture with Kanye West We both wore White Lives Matter t-shirts at his fashion show in Paris. | ||
| Again, me teaming up with Kanye because I have a laser focus on the black community and I had a laser focus on wanting to destroy Black Lives Matter as an organization because I knew that they were lying to the black community. | ||
| So again, my entire relationship and what I did publicly with Kanye was based on Black America. | ||
| But again, because this tweet came closely thereafter, people were looking at me to comment. | ||
| And the truth is that I was aware, behind the scenes, Kanye gave me conversations, I read them in their entirety, of very specific Jewish people who I would say were definitively making threats against him. | ||
| And so I had more knowledge than the public had when he shared this tweet. | ||
| Now, what happened thereafter was I tried to caution the public the very next day following his tweet. | ||
| So he had done nothing else yet. | ||
| He had done no interviews. | ||
| It was just the tweet that had existed in the public sphere. | ||
| And I was trying to essentially say to people, hold your horses, because I think that once he explains what's happening behind the scenes, you will realize that he's not talking about all Jewish people in the entire world. | ||
| He is feeling passionately about certain people that he works with. | ||
| And here is what I said in an attempt to get people to hold their horses. | ||
| Take a listen. | ||
| That was the tweet. | ||
| And people subsequently demanded that the tweet be taken down for anti-Semitism. | ||
| Now, if you are an honest person, you did not think this tweet was anti-Semitic. | ||
| You did not think that he wrote this tweet because he hates or wants to genocide Jewish people. | ||
| This does not represent the beginning of the Holocaust. | ||
| That's if you're an honest person, you will admit that, right? | ||
| If you're an honest person, when you read this tweet, you had no idea what the hell he was talking about. | ||
| I had, I had. | ||
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We've seen this though. | |
| If you're a military strike and it was going to go forward. - All right. | ||
| And I will admit, if I fumbled the ball here and I can understand what people... People are talking in the live chat about she mentioned a secret conversation. | ||
| What's she talking about? | ||
| They read that as, no, she's fully defending him and he actually does want to go DEFCON 3 on all Jewish people everywhere. | ||
| People were very upset that I had said that. | ||
| But I want to be clear that I had actually read the messages that were being sent to him. | ||
| One of them, he ended up sharing publicly. | ||
| This was a text message from Harley Pasternak to Kanye. | ||
| And this was something, again, that I had read before he had sent that tweet. | ||
| Text message reads, I'm going to help you one of a couple of ways. | ||
| First, you and I sit down and have a loving and open conversation. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And again, I was responding to threats that he was acting. | ||
| Huge reaction, calls for me to resign. | ||
| Okay, yeah, we already knew all that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Let's do, we'll do like one more. | |
| Minute 1230, people are saying. | ||
| And there was this very strange meeting that occurred and I want to be clear that I didn't understand. | ||
| Was what happened thereafter. | ||
| A friend of mine who I am not going to name encouraged me to visit the Simon Wiesenthal Center. | ||
| That's a human rights organization, human rights for Jews organization. | ||
| And there was this very strange meeting that occurred and I want to be clear that I didn't understand the meeting because the individuals were speaking in Hebrew. | ||
| My understanding going into it was that once I spoke to this individual, things would be clarified and then I could just go on living and my reputation would pretty much be restored. | ||
| And by golly, that's kind of what happened. | ||
| So again, it was an extremely old man. | ||
| I think he runs the place. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't remember his name, so I'm not going to make one up. | ||
| But I had to sit in a meeting and explain that I didn't think Hitler was a great person, listened to two people speak Hebrew, and then my reputation was restored. | ||
| Or at least I was allowed to go on pursuing what I wanted to pursue, which was just talking about black Americans and the fracturing of the black and white relationship. | ||
| It's a very odd thing when I reflect on that. | ||
| But I want to be clear that the threats, the threats that Candace, this could be over at any moment for you, don't you get out of line again by, you know, saying something that you never actually said, but don't make us have to threaten you again, that I still always felt over me because it was just a very scary thing to go through. | ||
| We spend way too much time on our phones. | ||
| That's freaky. | ||
| So she says that she made these comments about Hitler. | ||
| They made her go to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. | ||
| They spoke in Hebrew and then it was forgiven. | ||
| Who's involved in this, I wonder? | ||
| Simon Wiesenthal centers a global Jewish human rights organization that confronts anti-Semitism, hate, defends Israel and Jews worldwide, teaches hate, defends Israel and Jews worldwide, teaches lessons of the Holocaust, headquartered in L.A., International footprint in New York, Chicago, Miami, Toronto, Paris, Berlin, Jerusalem, Buenos Aires. | ||
| It's an NGO at the UN, UNESCO, OAS. | ||
| Jim Burke executive officer Wasn't Simon Wiesenthal Center one of the groups that That was on the Elon Musk Twitter space Yeah Elon Musk Twitter space. | ||
| He did a Twitter space with Ben Shapiro back end of 2023. | ||
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Bruh. | |
| Let me just disable my ad blocker. | ||
| That everyone told me I need to get. | ||
| I think someone from the Simon Wiesenthal Center was on this space if I recall correctly because the website looks familiar. | ||
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Does it say who was on there? | |
| not in this one no I'll look up Elon Musk Simon Weisentholms That's about Israel. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| SWC condemns Musk for failure to tackle anti-Semitism. | ||
| The Simon Wiesenthal Center issued the following statement. | ||
| From the moment that Elon Musk acquired Twitter, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a trailblazer in combating online hate and terrorism, has to meet with him to detail our concerns about the leveraging of Twitter by anti-Semites and violent anti-Israel groups and individuals. | ||
| Reiterates its calls for X to meet and begin a long overdue process of degrading not upgrading the use of X by anti Semites Okay Brat | ||
| Everything is like this now. | ||
| Now enough with the fucking paywalls. | ||
| I wonder if there's anything with me in there. | ||
| SWC denounces Trump's meeting with anti-Semite and Holocaust revisionist Nick Fuentes. | ||
| I piss on your Talmud. | ||
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Get the fuck out of America. | |
| Fuentes is a well-known white supremacist, anti-Semite, Holocaust denier. | ||
| In 2019, he questioned whether six million were murdered with this outrageous analogy. | ||
| How long would it take you to make six million? | ||
| Hmm, I don't know. | ||
| It certainly wouldn't be five years, right? | ||
| The math doesn't seem to add up. | ||
| Among other slanders, Fuentes is quoted as saying, I piss on your Talmud. | ||
| Jews, get the fuck out of America. | ||
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Bruh. | |
| How could they say I said that? | ||
| That's so ridiculous. | ||
| It is unacceptable that a former president who has announced his candidacy would meet with anti-Semites and an avowed white nationalist. | ||
| The result of this meeting is the mainstreaming of bigotry at a time of surging anti-Semitism. | ||
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Damn. | |
| Well, there you go. - Sure. | ||
| Chuck Schumer denounced me, too. | ||
| Someone sent it to me. | ||
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Where's the, um... Oh, I think I have it here. | |
| No, I don't have it. | ||
| Someone, uh... Send me the clip where Chuck Schumer called me out, apparently. | ||
| Does anyone have that? | ||
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Where's the... Someone give me that clip. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Don't need it anymore. | ||
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Here it is. | |
| I begin today by addressing the reprehensible and dangerous comments made yesterday by former President Trump. | ||
| The former president's comments were utterly disgusting, and a textbook example of the kind of anti-Semitism facing Jews, pushing the dangerous anti-Semitism trope of dual loyalty. | ||
| To say you hate Israel or your religion because you have one political view over the other is sick, It's hateful. | ||
| It is unadulterated anti-Semitism. | ||
| And it serves to use Israel as a political wedge, further damaging the bonds between U.S. | ||
| and Israel. | ||
| We have always tried, I've always tried through the years, to keep everything we do on Israel bipartisan. | ||
| And to use it for partisan purposes hurts Israel, hurts America, and displays how low Donald Trump would go. | ||
| I was there too. | ||
| W. W is in the shot. | ||
| like Nick Fuentes, and who called white supremacists in Charlottesville very good people. | ||
| I was there too. | ||
| Who, as was recently reported, white supremacists in Charlottesville very good people. | ||
| And nobody who breaks bread with anti-Semites like Nick Fuentes, and who called white supremacists in Charlottesville very good people. | ||
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W. | |
| Or who... | ||
| W is in the shot. | ||
| Free Nick Fuentes. | ||
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Ha ha ha! | |
| There's me. | ||
| Dude, why did I look so much more handsome in this than I do now? | ||
| Did I get fatter? | ||
| Older? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| My hair is shorter? | ||
| Nick Fuentes is more loyal to America than most elected officials, including yourself. | ||
| So true. | ||
| No! | ||
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No! | |
| YOU ARE JEWISH! | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Middle finger. | ||
| You are Jewish. | ||
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I'm gonna get rate limited. | |
| Little known fun fact about Schumer. | ||
| He's pro-life for Israeli Jews, pro-murder for unborn Americans. | ||
| Though Efrat only assists women in Israel, the group has garnered support from inside the Beltway. | ||
| Senator Chuck Schumer, a noted pro-choice champion, attended a 30th anniversary. | ||
| He has been lauded by Planned Parenthood as a hero with a 100% pro-choice record. | ||
| But in 2007, he put his pro-choice position aside and joined his anti-abortion foes at the celebration. | ||
| Israel is currently fighting a demographic war for her survival, especially. | ||
| As we go to print, Israel's borders are in jeopardy. | ||
| Their birth rate is double the Jewish birth rate. | ||
| So they're basically pro-abortion for Americans and pro-life for Israelis. | ||
| If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what does. | ||
| In Israel, they talk about, our birth rate is too low and the Arabs is too high, so we can't abort anybody. | ||
| In America, they say, oh, whites are becoming a minority? | ||
| That's a good thing, and we can't wait for it to happen. | ||
| If you talk about it, you're a racist, and we're pro-choice. | ||
| So, it's very clearly a supremacist, exclusionary ideology. | ||
| A religion, actually. | ||
| I mean, how does it get much clearer than that, right? | ||
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Well, that's what they say. | |
| Bye. | ||
| Alright, what else can we watch today? | ||
| So Candace Owens is a hero. | ||
| Candace Owens is an American patriot. | ||
| We support her absolutely. | ||
| Nothing she's saying is immoral or anti-Semitic or untrue. | ||
| She's just finally coming out with it and being honest about the Israeli stranglehold over American politics. | ||
| Consequently, she is being attacked, slandered, censored. | ||
| That's what happened to me. | ||
| But when it happened to me, no one defended me. | ||
| When it happened to me in 2017, everybody just piled on. | ||
| And I was 18, and I didn't know anybody, I had no connections. | ||
| They just tried to bury me. | ||
| So I just had to keep fighting as an individual, as a young, inexperienced, not-networked individual, and kept doubling down and doubling down, and eventually I got to this point, where I just have so much baggage, it's unbelievable, so much baggage in terms of negative media stories, slander, been blacklisted by so many people, censored, debanked, | ||
| So it's been a very difficult war of attrition for me, but nobody has ever really come out and defend... Well, I shouldn't say nobody, but... In the very beginning, nobody defended me. | ||
| Lately, people have been defending me, because now people are starting to get it, but it's been a tough career. | ||
| It's been a tough life for me. | ||
| So I'm glad that Candace is going out now and saying what's up. | ||
| Because we need more people to speak out. | ||
| We need mainstream people to have the courage of their convictions and have a little integrity. | ||
| Because the only way to be America first and Catholic is to speak out against this. | ||
| You can't be that and do it any other way. | ||
| Because the Israeli lobby, the Jewish lobby, prevents American government from putting America first. | ||
| And the Jewish control of America prevents us from having a Christian government. | ||
| It's just mutually exclusive and they work against each other. | ||
| If we were to go out and say, we want Christian laws, the Jewish groups would be the first ones to oppose it. | ||
| Universally. | ||
| The atheist ones, the religious ones, the liberal ones, the conservative ones. | ||
| If we came out and said, we want Christian government now, it would be Jews united against it. | ||
| Jewish organizations, Jewish groups, again, across the spectrum. | ||
| And if we came out and said America first, it would be Zionists and other Jews, like Bill Ackman, who would, lately especially, who would be coming out and opposing that in every way, shape, and form. | ||
| Although that one's a little bit more There's a little bit more diversity of opinion on that but nevertheless still is a full-spectrum Jewish support for Israel over America. | ||
| So if you want to be a patriot and if you believe that we ought to live in a Christian society we have to confront the Jewish lobby that controls America because it is neither America first nor is it Christian. | ||
| Of course it cannot be. | ||
| And it can't be conservative, and it can't be nativist, and it can't be any of those things. | ||
| So, I'm not in favor of going after Jews or anything like that, but we want to live in a Christian country. | ||
| I think Jews should have the same rights and should be treated with respect and dignity in the same way that everybody else should. | ||
| But we should have Christian laws, and the state should receive guidance from Christianity, should receive guidance from the church. | ||
| And we also should have America be put before any other country. | ||
| And the interest of Americans put before the interest of other groups. | ||
| So, you know, fortunately for them, Israel exists. | ||
| So if they don't feel comfortable with that, if they don't feel confident in guarantees that some American state could give them, then they could go move to Israel. | ||
| But our country can't be held hostage by a religious ethnic minority that basically hates us. | ||
| I mean, you see the contempt. | ||
| If you don't absolutely worship the Jews, they hate you. | ||
| They have utter contempt and disdain for you. | ||
| But that's really the only patriotic position. | ||
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So... | |
| Anyway, but that's that I think I'm gonna get out of here. | ||
| I'm not doing a show tonight. | ||
| I stream now for four hours I'm sick. | ||
| So I'm doing this instead of a show. | ||
| It's a little easier because I'm under the weather I have like I think I have strep throat or something So I'm not able to talk as much, you know on these reaction streams. | ||
| I don't have to talk as much So it's a little better. | ||
| I'm gonna read our super chats and then I'm gonna end the stream, but I'm not doing a show tonight I might do one tomorrow if I feel better. | ||
| Otherwise, I'll probably just do another stream like this if that's okay with everybody But we're gonna take a look at the super chats, oh geez we got 90 super chats 90 So I will read all of these Well, I'll read some of these. | ||
| I'll read the ones from today. | ||
| Everything else I'll try and catch up on tomorrow, okay? | ||
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Okay. | |
| So I'll read the ones from today's stream. | ||
| Let's take a look. | ||
| Yeah, we just watched it. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| - Spence sent $3. | ||
| Candace did another great segment today. | ||
| She called out all the conservative pundits. | ||
| She said every single one of them knows that they have to be pro-Israel to keep their job. | ||
| She's a queen, I love her. | ||
| - Yeah, we just watched it. | ||
| It was great. - Spence sent $4. | ||
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Filth. - Filth! | |
| I'm good on that. | ||
| Gotta up your protein intake. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So I can have big arms? | ||
| So I can be hot for you? | ||
| I'm good on that. | ||
| Gotta up your protein. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So I can have big arms, so I can be hot for you? | ||
| I've never understood people are always, it's always guys critiquing my appearance. | ||
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It's always guys that are like, you're not beefy enough. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Well, fortunately, I'm not a day laborer. | ||
| I'm a talk show host. | ||
| So... I don't feel the need to, uh... Oh, you need to go and lift weights. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| You can do that if you want. | ||
| Soxgroi percent ten dollars. | ||
| No message. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sick. | ||
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I don't feel good. | |
| Hey, thank you very much for the big super chat. | ||
| Yeah, poor, poor people. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| Shut up. | ||
| Oh, you're poor? | ||
| Tell me more about that. | ||
| I can't relate. | ||
| Actually, don't. | ||
| $100 for the big cheese pours on rumble seething. | ||
| Hey, thank you very much for the big super chat. | ||
| Yeah, poor poor people Shut up. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Oh, you're poor Tell me more about that. | ||
| I can't relate Actually, don't shut up Yeah, thank you for the next master chat. | ||
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Don't W. W. Rich. | |
| W. Rich Superchatters. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Oh, brother. | ||
| - Rich Super Chatters. | ||
| - Rap Master X sent $3. - No bores. | ||
| - Disney Star Wars is almost as shitty as your fag music. | ||
| Love the stream though, pal. | ||
| - Oh brother. | ||
| Well, sorry it's not Death Leopard or whatever the fuck faggot music you listen to. - Reed Raider sent $5. | ||
| From Star Wars. | ||
| It seems just like how light-skinned curly-haired women replaced hot white female representation, that they are now using passive Asian man to replace white hero representation. - That's a dumb observation. | ||
| John Dave Irving sent $109, Nick, thanks for the shoutout on my Rumble comments. | ||
| A lot of work for little reward went into those. | ||
| Unrelated, a Super Chatter, also putting in the work, hey D'Anibal Lecter, send you Super Chats that were not read. | ||
| Error? | ||
| Anyway, poor people are gross and glad you are feeling better after that raw egg detox. | ||
| Thank you for the big Super Chat John Dave Irving, yes. | ||
| You're right about poor people being gross. | ||
| Yeah, the raw egg detox. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| Thank you for that and for the big super chat. | ||
| I don't know what super chats you're talking about, if they're real or not. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I'll take a look tomorrow if I missed any, okay? | ||
| But thanks. | ||
| My old friend. | ||
| - Wonder Pets Patriots sent $3. | ||
| Are Jews demons that use language as a means of manipulating and tricking people rather than for communicating? - Well, they are human beings, but they do use words in that way. - Spence sent $5. | ||
| A rabbi came to my high school once and took questions from the students. | ||
| I think he got 20 questions and didn't answer a single one. | ||
| They are all like the guy in this interview. | ||
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That's true, they are all like that. | |
| Harold Flight sent $3. | ||
| I've said it before, and I'll say it again. | ||
| So much material today, your Jew voice acting has me rolling every single time. | ||
| Thanks so much Nick. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I got a comms internship at my university's LL, Jewish student group. | ||
| They had a nicer building than any frat by the way. | ||
| I think some Christians would be appalled by how much they hate us but most would indulge in the Christian hate. | ||
| True. | ||
| Did you see that the USCCB will put notes in the missile telling us not to take the gospel too seriously because it can be anti-semitic? | ||
| I'm loyal to Rome but the church isn't ours anymore. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| You're just spreading heresy, and you're leading people to reject the church, which is self-indulgent. | ||
| Don't use your weakness to lead other people away from the church. | ||
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I'm Catholic, but I don't know, man. | |
| Well, you can burn in hell, then, if you're not sure. | ||
| John Smith sent $50. | ||
| Candace is awesome. | ||
| You are awesome. | ||
| Great stream. | ||
| Feel better soon, big guy. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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I'm taking my vitamins. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Very epic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Rumble Boomers. | ||
| Shit poster 69 cent three dollars the funniest part about this comma died is that she destroyed him on Shapiro's own platform smiley face Northwest sent five dollars Nick vindicated each shit rumble boomers. | ||
| Yeah rumble boomers take a hike father Groy Glad to hear it. | ||
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That's a great story. | |
| I started watching you in 2018, and since then, I have gotten sober, started a family, and I'm now in RCIA with my wife, and you have played a huge role in bringing me out of the hole and back to the one true church. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| I will RKD4NJFO slash. | ||
| Hey, thank you, man. | ||
| Glad to hear it. | ||
| That's a great story. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| And congratulations on everything. | ||
| I'd love to hear that. | ||
| That's really what it's all about. | ||
| No, I would murder her. | ||
| If my girlfriend cheated on me, I mean, obviously I'd break up with her. | ||
| Probably beat the shit out of her. | ||
| And if my wife did it, I would just beat the shit out of her and maybe kill her. | ||
| No, I'm kidding, of course. | ||
| I would never do that. | ||
| But there should definitely be... What are you supposed to do in this day and age? | ||
| If a woman cheats on you, what could you even do to her? | ||
| If a girl cheats on you in this day and age, you can't even lay a finger on her. | ||
| And if you do, she goes to the police and says, oh, he beat me, and then you get charged with domestic abuse, and then that's on your record forever, and then you can't vote, and you can't own a gun, And if you have kids, they take the kids from you. | ||
| It's totally rigged. | ||
| Women can just do, they just can get away with anything. | ||
| And if you have a problem with it, they can just accuse you of being a rapist, or they could say that you beat them anyway. | ||
| So it's pretty dangerous stuff. | ||
| You just gotta pick the right one. | ||
| Binion sent $10. | ||
| Keep her online. | ||
| I understand what you've been on about with university lately. | ||
| Average person looks at the news and only gets a surface level understanding of world events. | ||
| But PPL who spend time researching and reading so they can write papers, smart PPL IQ, and PPL who are both will not be tricked half. | ||
| Binion sent $10, even better, all that reading literature, and the practice writing and speaking in the holistic education causes us to be sharp and be able to see through mind games like Candice just did. | ||
| And it teaches us how to communicate our message most effectively. | ||
| Okay, you just sound like a bonehead, no offense. | ||
| But you just sound like a complete bonehead. | ||
| Completely remedial understanding of what I'm talking about. | ||
| Binion sent $5, so thanks for turning me away from the mindset that teenagers, Norma Eakins and Oliver Anthony people have that academia should be completely discarded. | ||
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Oh, I see. | |
| We should go to college because college makes us smarter. | ||
| Oh, I think I finally get it. | ||
| So you're saying college makes us smarter? | ||
| All that reading makes us smarter? | ||
| Shut the fuck up, dude. | ||
| Just a refill when you get a chance. | ||
| And the check. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
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Like what? | |
| I think I finally understand what you're saying about university. | ||
| The average person only has a surface level understanding. | ||
| But people who research, smart people, will not be tricked. | ||
| Even better, all the reading and writing causes us to be sharp and see through mind games like Hannes just did. | ||
| Like, you sound like you have Down Syndrome. | ||
| You sound like... You sound like a complete retard. | ||
| No offense. | ||
| Bro just discovered education? | ||
| Bro just discovered the intellect in education? | ||
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Oh, I think I finally get it! | |
| If we read, then we know more! | ||
| And if we write, then we have comprehension! | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| Fucking brain damage. | ||
| Bro is legit brain damaged. | ||
| Concussed. | ||
| Did you get a concussion? | ||
| Did you just get in a fatal car crash? | ||
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Whiplash? | |
| That's insane, dude. | ||
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I think I finally get it. | |
| I think I finally know it. | ||
| When you go to college, you get smart. | ||
| If you're smart, you got dumb. | ||
| Yeah, really good. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| - The American man sent $10. - Yeah, really good. - She was so invested in the suffering of Christ that she missed the antisemitism. | ||
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True. | |
| Watching the scene again, you see the obvious projection that every Jew like him engages in, that it is them who stretch to see antisemitism anywhere. | ||
| They want the whole world to see only their suffering everywhere. | ||
| - True, so true. - Yo-Yo-Yo sent $3. | ||
| If it wasn't for the existence of raw nuns, Gilad Otzmoan and Dave Smith I don't know how I would cope with the fact people like this are real lol. | ||
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For real dude, for real. | |
| Doge shit poster 69 sent $3. | ||
| How dare you call Rabbi Noseburg unholy. | ||
| All he did was sell butt plugs with his daughter. | ||
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Noseburg! | |
| Chugger sent $10. | ||
| Damn someone get me a ticket to the next Blexit rally. | ||
| I need the Candace shirt. | ||
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For real. | |
| Candace W. Low 123 sent $3. | ||
| This nigga needs to read how to win friends and influence people. | ||
| Oh, the Jewish guy? | ||
| Cocaine Nig Nog sent $45. | ||
| Just started watching you a few months ago. | ||
| Wanted to know if you think destiny is being paid by the Democrat Party and by Jews. | ||
| The way he cucks for Biden and how some TikTokers came out saying Democrat Party tried paying them to say good things about Biden makes me think the cuck would cuck for both Biden and Israel. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| I think he's just a... I think his ideology is just he's a... he's an institutionalist. | ||
| Because he's not even really left-wing. | ||
| He just is a shill for whatever the government says. | ||
| He's a shill for the current system. | ||
| So no, I think that's just his belief. | ||
| Johan sent $10, we stan a black queen. | ||
| Thank you for the stream, I hope you are recovering well from your illness. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Binion sent $5, after hearing about you on Twitter, I found a clip of you in January 2020 where you saw Candace's comments on nationalism and Hitler and you went like based yo based on God. | ||
| That response told me you're a real one and I've been watching ever since. | ||
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Let's go, thank you. | |
| I did see that, yeah. | ||
| I think you're Israel-obsessed. | ||
| Dude is a total shill. | ||
| With his beanie. | ||
| I think you're just- you have Israel Derangement Syndrome. | ||
| Yeah, and I think you're bought by the Jews. | ||
| That's why you're still on YouTube. | ||
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Mike Van Sant $5. | |
| Unholy Rabbi. | ||
| Candace Owens. | ||
| Fuck you and your rabbi. | ||
| Tommy Sotomayor. | ||
| Bang. | ||
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Black ass niggas going hard as fuck. | |
| For real, the black-ass niggas are going hard as fuck lately. | ||
| It's kind of awesome. | ||
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Well, I've heard who it will be. | |
| - So. - Candace seems good at retaining her composure, and she's brave. | ||
| 07, also still waiting for the VP pick just as eagerly. | ||
| Who do you think? - Well, I've heard who it will be. | ||
| I've heard rumors, but I don't, not really at liberty to say. | ||
| Yeah, she kept her composure Pretty well. | ||
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Yes she did. | |
| Candice owned him. | ||
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Definitely not. | |
| An interview between you and Candice actually doesn't seem that impossible anymore. | ||
| - Candace owned, damn. | ||
| - Are you getting enough physical exercise? | ||
| - Definitely not. | ||
| - Sleep who sent $3. | ||
| An interview between you and Candace actually doesn't seem impossible anymore. | ||
| - An interview between you and Candace actually doesn't seem that impossible anymore. | ||
| You should try and talk so you don't sound dumb. | ||
| - Can handle a Groy percent $5. | ||
| Melanated Queen W. | ||
| Yes, she is black. | ||
| - Grow Iper sent $3. | ||
| They send a rabbi, we send a black. - Yeah, she is black, thank you. - Fresh Garbage 5 cent, $10. | ||
| Nick, I can forgive you for stealing my bike, but I cannot forgive you for making me steal your bike. - Okay, thank you. | ||
| Yo yo yo sent $5. | ||
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For that. | |
| It's amazing how little they consider the interests and safety of other groups and say, do whatever they want to us but expect us to care so deeply about their feelings and group interests. | ||
| They're hypocrites. | ||
| Candace has done a great job exposing this. | ||
| They're hypocrites. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| That's hypocritical. | ||
| Dick Coomer sent $3. | ||
| The only thing that comes out of this rabbi's mouth is shit. | ||
| I swear, he must crawl around the sewers under Chabad to stuff his mouth full of shit. | ||
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Okay, gross. | |
| Yeah, get with the program, buddy. | ||
| He calls leftist Jews self-hating, but they pull way more weight in subverting society. | ||
| They were obviously the Bolsheviks slash Marxists, and they all vote them. | ||
| Dismissing left-wing Jews is just wild. | ||
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Yeah, get with the program, buddy. | |
| Northwest sent $5. | ||
| I wonder if this is what Zoom calls between Jews and politicians look like. | ||
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Yeah, something like that. | |
| That's what I'm wondering. | ||
| - That's what I'm wondering, when are they gonna defend her? - Black Crow Eye percent, - That's what I'm wondering, when are they gonna defend her? - Black Crow Eye percent, - That's what I'm wondering, when are they gonna defend her? | ||
| - Black Crow Eye percent, - That's what I'm wondering, - Black Crow Eye percent, - That's what I'm wondering, - Black Crow Eye percent, - That's what I'm wondering, - That's what I'm wondering, - That's what I'm wondering, - That's what I'm wondering, And they will talk about Jews as a collective and they will include the so-called Jews in name only within that. | ||
| Oh yeah, they're all like that. | ||
| And they will talk about Jews as a collective, and they will include the so-called Jews in name only within that. | ||
| Everything they say is Jewish. | ||
| It's just something that they will tentatively put out there in order to defend their position in the current situation. | ||
| It's like when she goes, well, what do you think about genocide? | ||
| And he goes, oh, I don't use genocide. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| But they'll say anything in the current moment to salvage their position. | ||
| Just like, well, the problem is you call them Jews. | ||
| You know, there's jerks in every race. | ||
| Just call them jerks. | ||
| But then they'll go and talk about the Muslims, the blacks, the Palestinians. | ||
| You know, and the same thing with the liberal Jews, like the other guy said. | ||
| You know, when you attack liberal Jews who may run Hollywood or that were the Apollo Bureau and the Soviet Union, they'll say, well, they're not real Jews. | ||
| In any other conversation, they will say, yes, of course they are real Jews. | ||
| They'll just say, well, they're misguided. | ||
| So, they just lie. | ||
| They're not in good faith. | ||
| I don't know where she would go. | ||
| I don't think anyone would have her. | ||
| I don't think Tucker would have her because Tucker is not based on this at all. | ||
| Okay, I can't read your name, dude. | ||
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Oh, you are? | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, thank you for telling me that. | ||
| - Oh, you are? | ||
| - Oh, okay. - Oh, okay. - Oh, thank you for telling me that. - Dan Zamnet sent $10. | ||
| Did you hear now even Destiny is taking the trip to Israel? | ||
| I was somewhat surprised to see that. - I'm not surprised at all. | ||
| - John, I'm not surprised at all. | ||
| - Oh, I'm surprised at all. - I'm surprised at all. | ||
| - Oh, I'm surprised at all. - Oh, I'm surprised at all. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Why isn't this one playing? | ||
| sent five dollars the trees are noticing yes why isn't this one playing jesse lee peterson sent three dollars when it comes to candace owens pray for nigga and drink a kombucha yeah mosey moe sent three dollars the blindness of the jews is biblical it is the same blind rage saul had while he was being replaced with david | ||
| it cannot be helped we must endure saul's attacks until god finally strikes him down yeah aquarium grow i percent five dollars piss on your talmud i don't remember you saying that seems like something dark and sinister is going on also w candace yeah no one actually believes i said that This is just getting really dark. | ||
| I have no idea what they mean by that. | ||
| Benjamin Aaron Shapiro sent $3. | ||
| Stupid Catholics. | ||
| May you all die childless. | ||
| Don't you go and get it? | ||
| I orchestrated all of this. | ||
| Rabbi retaliation. | ||
| Lawsuit. | ||
| Accusations. | ||
| Etc. | ||
| This is my plot to have an excuse to fire this African American. | ||
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Ben. | |
| Uh, yeah, true. | ||
| He probably is orchestrating it. | ||
| Or he's a part of it in some way. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Yeah, great to be back. | ||
| Thanks, yeah, great to be back. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Wouldn't that be sick? | ||
| That would... Hey, she's totally welcome to come. | ||
| I don't know... You know, I can't... I don't have any ability to gauge her interest in something like that, but she's absolutely invited. | ||
| Guest of honor, truly. | ||
| but I doubt she's trying to make that happen. | ||
| Maxie Stoneman sent $25. | ||
| W. Candace Owens, the official queen of anti-Semitism. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| That is true, it is a curse. | ||
| - $3.07. | ||
| Thanks for the stream. | ||
| - Thank you. - Humongous sent $3. | ||
| Blessing and a curse to be as smart as you, Nicklo. | ||
| Hope you start feeling better. | ||
| - That is true, it is a curse. | ||
| - There are some deep-- - You're not the only one with the curse of knowledge. - There are some deep sent $3. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It could be that, it could be anything. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I noticed Tucker had a red string bracelet on. | ||
| Isn't the red string bracelet specifically worn on the right wrist? | ||
| Cavalad Jewish Satanism? | ||
| Don't trust. | ||
| Yeah, that's, people have been talking about that for years. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It could be that. | ||
| It could be anything. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've heard that before. | ||
| Like it's brand new. | ||
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Did you- I noticed! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's been- that's been a meme for literally five years. | ||
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Yup. | |
| That is political power. | ||
| Dipshit. | ||
| It's all the same. | ||
| - Yup. - Humongous cent, $3. | ||
| Thoughts on bro Nathaniel's secession plan? | ||
| Organizing on a regional level and leveraging resources? | ||
| Shall we instead work on gaining political power and spreading the AF message? - That is political power, dipshit. | ||
| It's all the same. | ||
| I mean, I'm in favor of people doing politics. - Annoying cent, $20. | ||
| Even the Messianic Jews that claim they accept Jesus as the Messiah are entitled. | ||
| They came to my church to talk about the Judaism of Jesus kept referring to the Bible as your Bible and talked in circles the whole time. | ||
| The priest described them as our older brother. | ||
| I cringed internally. | ||
| Yeah, that's just their personality, honestly. | ||
| Traxton Wilberford Shear sent $10. | ||
| Get a massage chair and do the Super Chats with a small remote like for presentations. | ||
| Great, more suggestions. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for that. | ||
| Okay, alright, alright, alright. | ||
| Chill with that, bruh. | ||
| Thank you for that. | ||
| Farad Luko sent $20. | ||
| What's up with Jews having orcish demon faces and then on top of that they make insane facial expressions. | ||
| Like that Michael Rappaport faggot needs to be killed by a botched rhinoplasty in a video game. | ||
| Okay, alright, alright, alright. | ||
| Chill with that, bruh. | ||
| Hussain Paris sent $3. | ||
| Nigga really said he has issues with Jesus. | ||
| It's so over. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Baby Ant sent $100. | ||
| $100 a month or you're gay. | ||
| I don't make the rules. | ||
| Been here since the original Owen Benjamin moon debate drama. | ||
| Stayed with you the whole time since. | ||
| Real knickhead here. | ||
| 07 to the king. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for the big super chat. | ||
| True, $100 a month or you're gay. | ||
| $100 a month or you're poor. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| No, but thank you, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Since the moon debate. | ||
| Yeah, he thought I was controlled by NASA. | ||
| Which was kind of funny. | ||
| I mean look, I believe in the moon landing, and I'm a round earther. | ||
| But I'm not paid by NASA. | ||
| I wish I was paid by NASA, but I'm not. | ||
| But yeah, that was kind of a funny chapter. | ||
| Me and him are cool though now. | ||
| We squash the beef, which is good. | ||
| But thank you, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I never said that because the doctor's plot happened in what, 1948? | ||
| So I don't think that's true. | ||
| wasn't anti-semitic until the 73 war but if you look at who stalin purged from the party it was effectively dejuification i never said that because the doctor's plot happened in what 1948 so i don't think that's true rsx 123 sent five dollars roman war music from now on only no more faggot music what the fuck okay larp james cook sent three dollars it's just always juju juju aj yeah | ||
| alex jones said it was uh leftists - Yes. | ||
| What was the tweet? | ||
| He said, um... I think he was responding even to the Candace Owens thing. | ||
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He said, oh, it's always leftists. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He reposts Keith Woods. | ||
| ...saying deranged rabbi calls Canada someone's an anti-Semite for using the term hag. | ||
| Alex Jones, the left, wants total control of all language. | ||
| Really, dude? | ||
| Yeah, that's about right. | ||
| It's the left. | ||
| Sure it is, bud. | ||
| And then there's me! | ||
| Then there's a million me clips. | ||
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...the people, the idea... The ADL is like a leftist globalist brainwashing operation. | |
| I don't think... | ||
| What is this brainwashing operation? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| The ADL, formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, is a New York-based international Jewish non-governmental organization and advocacy group... ...and the State of Israel. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Does that sound anti-Semitic? | ||
| It kind of does, but that's what it is. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| The Luft! | ||
| W. Keith, by the way. | ||
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W. Minion. | |
| Wanted a Minion t-shirt? | ||
| So why are you making... | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
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The Loved. | |
| W. Keith, by the way. | ||
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W. Minion. | |
| Wanted a Minion t-shirt. | ||
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Bruh. | |
| Jordan Pierce sent $3. | ||
| Thanks for the streams. | ||
| When is Zip Pack this year if you're allowed to say? | ||
| Look, when we're announcing it, we will announce it and you will know, okay? | ||
| Mohammed sent $5. | ||
| Stalin also hated his son for marry a Jew. | ||
| Stalin was based. | ||
| Farid Lukos sent $100. | ||
| I'm not gay here is proof. | ||
| Thank you for the big super chat. | ||
| Okay, Okay! | ||
| That's our last super chat. | ||
| I will read the rest of them tomorrow because there's some from last week, there's some from earlier this week, but I'm ready to call it. | ||
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I've been streaming for Four hours. | |
| So that's gonna do it for me tonight, and I'm not gonna be doing a show. | ||
| Like I said, I'm under the weather, so I'm not really feeling up to a full monologue, but I will try to be back tomorrow. | ||
| I'll let you know. | ||
| If I don't do a show tomorrow, I'll just do another stream like this. | ||
| So make sure to follow me on Rumble. | ||
| Smash the follow button here. | ||
| We had the biggest stream on Rumble today, over 10,000 viewers at one point, at peak. | ||
| Number one stream on Rumble, let's go! | ||
| So smash the follow button, smash the like button, follow me on Telegram, t.me slash NickJFuentes. | ||
| I'll keep you posted. | ||
| I'm either doing a show tomorrow or I'll be doing another casual stream like this. | ||
| But that's it for me tonight. | ||
| Big thank you to all the Super Chatters. | ||
| Thank you everybody for watching. | ||
| Hope you enjoyed the stream. | ||
| And I will see you tomorrow. | ||
| Let me just pick out a song here. | ||
| What's gonna be my... What's gonna be my outro song? | ||
| How about a little Vultures, huh? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I'll see you guys tomorrow. | ||
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W. Candace. | |
| W. Me. | ||
| Candace WB. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right, bye. | ||
| Have a good night. | ||
| Everything you say, I'm wang, wang, crazy. . | ||
| Bipolar, anti-semite. | ||
| And I'm still the king. | ||
| Still the king. | ||
| Still the king. | ||
| Think the headlines was my kryptonite. | ||
| Still the king. | ||
| It's what you're doing. |
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