Oct. 22, 2022 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes
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The American people will come first once again. | |
| With respect, the respect that we deserve. | ||
| From this day forward, it's going to be only America first. | ||
| America first. | ||
| I'm I'm | ||
| I'm Good evening, everybody. | ||
| You're watching America First. | ||
| My name is Nicholas J. Fuentes. | ||
| We have a great show for you tonight. | ||
| Very excited to be back with you here tonight on Friday. | ||
| Casual Friday. | ||
| And we have a little bit of a different kind of a show for you tonight. | ||
| Sort of a slow news day, slow news week. | ||
| So I figured we would react live to the full feature-length Ye interview with Piers Morgan, which just came out today. | ||
| It's an hour and 40 minutes so it's gonna be a good it's gonna be a long stream it's gonna be a good healthy stream so we'll be live reacting to this like I said it just came out today you might have seen pieces of it or clips from it I think a 16 minute edited version was posted earlier in the week but this is this is the full one that just got posted today so We'll be watching this. | ||
| People are saying too long. | ||
| Okay, so what do you want from me then? | ||
| So we'll be watching this. | ||
| We will be, uh, take a look at the Super Chats at the end if I feel like it. | ||
| Probably we will. | ||
| And maybe we'll take a break in the middle, I'm not sure. | ||
| But, uh, but that's gonna be the show. | ||
| Before we get into that, though, I want to remind you to follow me here on Cozy. | ||
| Smash the follow button. | ||
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| I'm gonna get rid of the live chat, because the live chat's just pissing me off, frankly. | ||
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Let's see. | |
| Yeah, normally we don't have live chat on the screen during the show for a reason. | ||
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Okay, so follow me on all that. | |
| What else? | ||
| You know, there were a few things going on today. | ||
| If you missed it, Ye got banned from Balenciaga. | ||
| Balenciaga has cut business ties with Ye after he spent like hundreds of thousands of dollars there. | ||
| And I think there was one other development And we may get into that on Monday, just not really enough for a whole show. | ||
| And then, of course, Donald Trump got subpoenaed by Congress, although we sort of knew that was going to happen earlier this month. | ||
| So, we may save that for Monday. | ||
| Not really too much else, though. | ||
| Sort of a slow day. | ||
| But it's Casual Friday, you know, I'm not wearing the shirt and tie. | ||
| And we're going to have more of a casual format, so watch this. | ||
| And I'm excited! | ||
| I haven't seen this yet. | ||
| When did this come out? | ||
| How many hours ago? | ||
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What does it say? | |
| Seven hours ago? | ||
| Okay, so it's relatively new. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| Let's see what the comments say before we get into it. | ||
| This is one of the most entertaining interviews I've ever watched and it's not made up. | ||
| It's real people stating their real thoughts. | ||
| I have not been this entertained in a long time. | ||
| This has evoked so much in me. | ||
| You know, honestly, I hope that people realize that the real... I hope you're beginning to understand and maybe beginning to realize that, honestly, the real problem in the world is people. | ||
| It's that most people are... | ||
| Just stupid. | ||
| You know, most people are just low IQ. | ||
| Because here you've got Ye, who's talking about Jewish media, and all the responses are so low IQ. | ||
| But then you just get these non-responses, these non-reactions, where they just say, This is entertaining! | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Say what you want, but get your popcorn, because it's entertaining! | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| That's just the way people are, though, I guess. - Say whatever you want, it's entertainment! | ||
| It's like nothing matters, you know, nothing matters to people. | ||
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Bro, this interview, the gift that keep on giving, I'm dead, y'all. | |
| Duh! | ||
| Real conversation turned entertaining, haha! | ||
| Laughing emoji, it's like women and dumb men. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
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So I don't know. | |
| I don't know what I expected to see in there. | ||
| But that's the comments. | ||
| That's a preview. | ||
| I guess we'll see. | ||
| Let's fire it up. | ||
| Hour and 40 minutes. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let me just get set up here. | ||
| Thank you very much indeed for joining Piers Morgan Uncensored. | ||
| My first question for you, I guess, is an obvious one. | ||
| What do you hope to achieve from our conversation? | ||
| That right there, being uncensored. | ||
| In American media, it's very censored. | ||
| It feels like an episode of Black Mirror a lot of times. | ||
| So, I've put myself across the line, the point of no return, saying, hey, I know they're going to say whatever they want about me. | ||
| When I bring up the truth, they're going to say, you didn't get enough sleep. | ||
| It's because of your health. | ||
| They're going to call me names for my truth, but these experiences that I'm telling you about are factually things that I've went through and things that I refuse to keep going through and things that I'm not going to let my children go through and things that I'm not going to let my peers go through. | ||
| No pun intended. | ||
| Well look, we are most certainly uncensored on this show, yay. | ||
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I want to give you the time and the... Is this going to be here the entire time? | |
| It says contains moderately strong language? | ||
| Is that... Okay, looks like that goes away. | ||
| Well good for him! | ||
| Okay, Uncensored, let's go! | ||
| To really explain yourself, because I think that sometimes soundbites about people, perhaps taken out of context sometimes, can create a very distorted view of what a person really thinks. | ||
| What do you think, looking back over the last few weeks in particular, what do you think have been the biggest misconceptions about you? | ||
| Well, I think there's a left agenda to silence anyone that goes against the agenda. | ||
| Let's go back to Trump running for office. | ||
| Back in 2015, everyone that was around me in my industry, in the entertainment industry, told me that my life would be over. | ||
| I would be on the wrong side of history. | ||
| I've even had threats to my life for wearing the Trump hat. | ||
| And it even ended up in, you know, destroying my family and also making it where I have to raise my children differently because I actually am a person that's classified as black. | ||
| You know, I classify myself as Jew, but A person is classified that had been given that title in America as black in America that I'm supposed to stay in a block of a vote. | ||
| You never heard the term white vote. | ||
| So why is there a term black vote? | ||
| How is that? | ||
| OK, it sounds just as racist as a black drinking fountain. | ||
| And I'm my dad, you know, called me and said, you know, the thing that the left fear about, yay, or makes me the most dangerous is I'm rich. | ||
| And that's the point. | ||
| Tupac told me back in the days, you know, you had to get your money right and then you go to war. | ||
| So I'm going to war, you know, I don't I don't have I don't have endless resources. | ||
| I only have like maybe, you know, honestly only Maybe $120 million in my account. | ||
| But what I'm not going to let happen is, I'm not going to let my kids take over Yeezy someday and have a boardroom telling them what to do and talking behind their back. | ||
| I'm not going to let that happen to my children. | ||
| So I have to fight right now. | ||
| And the other powerful icons in black music, when they were at the top of the game, they didn't fight at that point. | ||
| They were too afraid of losing whatever they had. | ||
| So by the time they wanted to make a difference, by the time Bill Cosby wanted to buy NBC, he didn't have the Cosby Show at that time to be able to stand up when they wanted to literally throw him in jail, you know, when they actually did throw him in jail. | ||
| So people have to understand just the bravery. | ||
| There's so many people everywhere. | ||
| I know everyone can relate to being afraid to say what you're going to feel because you feel like you're going to, You know, you're gonna lose something. | ||
| So whether you agree with me or not, I believe people are going to feel the fact that someone is brave enough to say something. | ||
| Every day, I do five things that people have been historically killed for. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And it's just, yo, I want to prove, first of all, I am Jew also. | ||
| The 12 Lost Tribes of Hebrew do the math. | ||
| Do your research on it. | ||
| We have got our culture ripped from us and then told we were just simply void of color, which is another definition for black. | ||
| But if we knew we were a culture and knew we were people the way the Jewish people know, then we wouldn't abort ourselves. | ||
| We wouldn't shoot each other dead in the streets and then rap about it. | ||
| We wouldn't brag about You know, having sex with each other's wives. | ||
| We would keep our families together and we would do business together. | ||
| The most dangerous place for a black person in America is actually in our mother's stomachs. | ||
| Because 50% of black deaths a year in America is abortion. | ||
| Currently. | ||
| I mean, I can keep going, but I want to make it, hey, boom, ask me questions. | ||
| Hey, boom! | ||
| It's true, though, and this is something I've talked about on my show a lot. | ||
| This is an important point. | ||
| And we actually just went over it with the Darren Beattie interview. | ||
| I actually want to pull that up because it's relevant. | ||
| And I've talked about this on my show for a long time, and recently I saw Darren said something similar in this interview he did, which is that When you're talking about regime change, when you're talking about these ideas which are censored and which carry this high social cost to talk about, you know, what you would call the red pill or the third rail type of subjects, there's sort of two ways you can go about it. | ||
| And the one way is to just talk about it. | ||
| The one way is that you talk about what's going on. | ||
| You talk about, for example, the Jewish influence or whatever it is, and you're ostracized, you're blacklisted, bad things happen to you, you pay this tremendous cost. | ||
| And then other people, what they do is they will simply conceal their views. | ||
| They notice these things, they observe these things, they're against them, but they just get along. | ||
| They pretend that they don't see those things, they pretend that those aren't their views, they pretend they don't agree with this. | ||
| And they lie, and they live a life of deception, they sort of live this double life. | ||
| And a lot of people may say they're doing that sort of conscientiously, and people say that, for example, in politics, that they're going to infiltrate the system. | ||
| They may agree with me, they may share my views, they agree with me about Jews, they agree with me about race, they agree with me about these kinds of things. | ||
| But they know that if they said it, it would be career suicide. | ||
| They know that if they said it, they'd be ostracized, that they would be targeted. | ||
| So instead, they pretend they don't have those views, they lie, and their idea is that they're going to work their way up inside the system that they oppose, and then use their influence in the system to bring it down eventually, to empower people that share those views. | ||
| But what always ends up happening, and this is what Ye just said about Bill Cosby, and this is what he said about himself, is that people will get to that point. | ||
| He said that, you know, according to Tupac, you gotta get your money right before you go to war. | ||
| A lot of people will get their money right, they will get to that position, and then, at that point, they've forgotten why they got into it. | ||
| At that point, they're so afraid of losing what they've built, their money, their fame, their legacy, their reputation, That at your peak, and nobody knows their peak, your perceived pinnacle, when you have real, serious, national, tangible success, They're sort of trapped. | ||
| They say, well, I don't want to lose what I have. | ||
| So that big idea that we had at the beginning where we're going to get our money right and we're going to infiltrate and we're going to level up and we're going to rise through the institutions. | ||
| Well, once they make it, once they get to that point where they have some influence, They say, now I don't want to do that. | ||
| I'm afraid of losing it. | ||
| And there's sort of two ideas here. | ||
| And the first is that, one, all the influence that you can, all the influence that you get through the system is contingent on the system. | ||
| It is constantly perpetuated by the system. | ||
| And what do I mean by that? | ||
| If you climb your way up the ladder inside the system and say, well, you know, I'll blow the whistle on all this when I become powerful, and you get on TV or you get into Congress or something, Well, your power and your ability to blow the whistle, your influence, is contingent on the system that you would oppose. | ||
| And the day, or the hour, or the minute that you expose yourself as an enemy of the system, the system will withdraw its support for you. | ||
| The system will withdraw its patronage. | ||
| You're not a lord, you're a thief. | ||
| Or you rule a fiefdom. | ||
| Rather, you're not the king, you're a lord, and your land isn't really your land, it's a fief. | ||
| It was given to you by the king. | ||
| And so, to the extent that you have influence, to the extent that you have clout, or power, or money, you only have it insofar as it is on loan to you from the real power. | ||
| So, if you're in Congress, as an example, it's not your seat. | ||
| That's not your power. | ||
| Your seat and your power are on loan to you from your donors, from the leader of the party, from the media, from the staff, whoever you're dependent on, whoever you're entangled with and dependent on, your power is on loan from them. | ||
| And so the second that you go out there and say, now I'm against the system, So much of it is revoked, and it's not to say that you have no influence on your own, but probably 80% of it, 90% of it is contingent. | ||
| People say, I'm gonna become so powerful, and then they do, and then they turn and oppose the system, and they realize that all that power they thought they had, I infiltrated, I worked my way up the ladder, 90% of it has just been taken out of the equation because it was dependent on these entangling alliances and dependencies and donors and things like that. | ||
| So what does that mean? | ||
| It means that influence is illusory. | ||
| It means that people don't have the power they think they have. | ||
| The people that you think are powerful are not really powerful. | ||
| That's the conclusion. | ||
| The conclusion is that all power is centralized. | ||
| And all power is sort of delegated and loaned out. | ||
| And if you think you have it, think again. | ||
| Because of course, If you can't speak out against certain people or a certain thing, if you can't really speak your mind, is it really your influence? | ||
| If you would lose this, that, and the other, if you really did something independent, if you really did something free, was that really your power to begin with? | ||
| Is it really yours? | ||
| Is it yours? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And it also, and that's the first thing, the second thing is how they will trap people. | ||
| They will neutralize people by making them dependent. | ||
| It's that dependency which is how they're able to loan out their power but still hold on to it. | ||
| So that anybody, even like a guy like Donald Trump or Ye, this is why they hate class traitors the most. | ||
| It's like he said, they hate the rich. | ||
| They hate rich people that do this. | ||
| Because people like Ye and Donald Trump are supposed to be so afraid of what has already happened to them. | ||
| They get canceled. | ||
| They get called crazy. | ||
| They get sued. | ||
| They get their business ties exploded and so on. | ||
| They're supposed to be so afraid of that, of losing what they have. | ||
| They have more, and so they have more to lose, that they're never supposed to go against the power structure. | ||
| And those are two fundamental things about the power dynamics. | ||
| that people need to understand if we want to get new people in power. | ||
| And Darren said something similar here, which I think I read out on my show at one point. | ||
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Let's see. | |
| I don't know if I'll be able to find it off the cuff here. | ||
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Let me take a look through here. | |
| Here it is. | ||
| This is my favorite part of the interview. | ||
| He talks about the failure of populism. | ||
| And he writes, let's see. | ||
| He says, It's clearly necessary to also cultivate an elite, both cultural and intellectual, and capture the institutions that serve to reinforce your ideas once you get political power so you don't have to find and capture the institutions that serve to reinforce your ideas once you get political power so you don't have to find yourself again in the situation So he means that we need to create an elite class. | ||
| We don't just want to win an election. | ||
| We need to cultivate a class of people who are high skill and high IQ and wield institutional power to sort of perpetuate our influence as opposed to just winning an election but not really being able to wield it. | ||
| And he goes on and says, that is my anti-democratic elitist critique. | ||
| But it can also go a bit too far and become ridiculous. | ||
| I mean, where is the critique? | ||
| Is Trump elite or not? | ||
| Insofar as it's adjacent to this approach of quietly recapturing the institutions, infiltrating the elites without rocking the boat too much, etc. | ||
| It can turn into a bit of a LARP and transition into a dangerous acquiescence or quietism that provides comfort to people who are red-pilled but not based, if you know what I mean. | ||
| To be red-pilled means you know the facts, but to be based means you're a creature capable of withstanding the coordinated social pressures smothering you if you dare to challenge the system publicly and aggressively. | ||
| Those are very different things. | ||
| And so I think while there's some truth to this idea, it can also function as a rationalization for people who are constitutionally red-pilled but not based. | ||
| Such as the tech bros. | ||
| A lot of these tech people are weak. | ||
| They don't have what it takes to confront the system. | ||
| You saw this with Elon Musk trying to buy Twitter. | ||
| He dipped his toes in the arena and then ran back with his tail between his legs and that didn't really age very well. | ||
| But nevertheless, you understand the point. | ||
| He said it all the billions of dollars as soon as he realized what that entails. | ||
| I'm sorry guys. | ||
| I'm content to resume my role as a glorified IT support for the regime. | ||
| So yes, there's value to the elitist message, but there's also a danger, and we should be careful in the way we promote it precisely because it is so attractive to certain people who are essentially weak and just want to be reassured there's nothing wrong with inaction. | ||
| And there was one other part, too, that I thought was really good, but I don't know if I'll be able to find it right away. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But anyway, so the point is, you know, how many people with real power are going to aggressively and directly confront the system like Trump and Ye have? | ||
| If you don't have people doing that, you can't win. | ||
| The idea that We learn the truth and we're all just going to hide it and lie about it forever? | ||
| It's just not going to work. | ||
| At some point you need somebody to be the tip of the spear like Trump or Ye, and that involves losing things. | ||
| That involves the immense social pressure, financial pressure, the censorship, persecution, the targeting. | ||
| At some point, the war has to be fought. | ||
| At some point, people need to initiate an offensive, as opposed to just playing this game of defensive and maneuvering. | ||
| So, anyway, I don't want to talk too much over this, but it's a very important point that he makes. | ||
| And by the way, I just want to add... We're 5 minutes in, 30 minutes into the stream. | ||
| I just want to add... | ||
| Everybody is calling him crazy. | ||
| I'm watching this interview. | ||
| I watched the first five minutes. | ||
| He's not crazy at all. | ||
| Crazy people don't talk this way. | ||
| I've talked to crazy people before. | ||
| I've talked to people that are manic. | ||
| I've talked to people that are actually mentally unwell. | ||
| This is not an... | ||
| If you know people like this yourself, you know this to be true. | ||
| This is not how a manic person talks. | ||
| If you know anybody that's bipolar, this is not what mania sounds like. | ||
| Mania does not sound like this at all. | ||
| So, I know we're only five minutes in, but of course, And this is what they do. | ||
| If he were white, they would say he's a Nazi. | ||
| If you're white and you talk about Jews, you're a racist Nazi. | ||
| If you're black and you talk about Jews, well they can't call you a racist Nazi, so they call you crazy. | ||
| They say you're off your medication, you're a lunatic. | ||
| So... | ||
| I'm five minutes in and everything that he's saying is completely coherent It's complete sentences, you know, and I know that maybe that sounds like Oh complete sentences But that's not what a crazy that's not what a person who is completely irrational or having some kind of an episode sounds like so I don't want to jump in too much because here's what I honestly think. | ||
| I think you have an extraordinary mind. | ||
| You have a number of extraordinary talents. | ||
| You're a musical genius. | ||
| You're a fascinating public figure. | ||
| What has been interesting to me is to watch the furore which has erupted in the last few weeks over a series of statements that you've made which have caused, as you know, a lot of offence. | ||
| And I guess before I get into them, I'm just curious as to Whether you think there is a line for free speech, I, listen, I completely agree with you that there is a war against free speech, that people are, you know, treading on eggshells all the time, terrified of expressing honestly held opinions in case they get cancelled. | ||
| I think we're living in a really insidious era where liberals are behaving like fascists. | ||
| So on that you have absolutely my agreement, but my question for you, Is, do you believe there are limits to free speech? | ||
| And if they are, what are they? | ||
| There are no limits to free speech. | ||
| It's all context, right? | ||
| Tarantino can write a movie about slavery where actually him and Jamie, they got the idea from me because the idea for Django, I pitched to Jamie Foxx and Quentin Tarantino as the video for Gold Digger. | ||
| And then Tarantino turned it into a film. | ||
| But in that film, he creates a context where Leonardo DiCaprio is allowed to use the word s*** multiple times within that context. | ||
| So Hollywood's job is to frame things, and they allow what content is accepted and what's not. | ||
| We have our thoughts. | ||
| Everyone has thoughts and ideas, and then people try to manipulate your thoughts and ideas. | ||
| In order for humanity to move forward, we have to be free to think and then to actualize. | ||
| I like the word actualize better than execute. | ||
| If you think about it, execute is a negative word. | ||
| to be more positive except for the fact that it has the word act in it and everyone's an actor, especially in Hollywood. | ||
| I'm like top five writers in human history, so I really get into the power of words and I feel very akin to Capote, Freud, Nikolai Tesla, Da Vinci, Nikolai Tesla, Da Vinci, Fauci, Matisse, more Matisse than Picasso, more African cubism than Matisse. | ||
| So I just do that. | ||
| I throw out that kind of s*** for the liberals. | ||
| And that's the funny thing. | ||
| It's like liberals love me. | ||
| Well, let me hold you up on that. | ||
| On Matisse, when you say you're more... | ||
| That's a really good point, though, about Django Unchained. | ||
| You know, it may seem simple, but it's like... | ||
| Obviously, in that movie, you got a white guy saying the N-word. | ||
| So it's not the word in itself. | ||
| It's not it's not He's a character in a movie saying those things and that's a major Hollywood production But he can say those things because of the context because we know it's a movie and because there's a certain narrative and so on and so forth And so what he's saying is really they're just banning They're banning the context. | ||
| They're banning a certain message. | ||
| It's not actually the words in themselves. | ||
| It's not actually the speech. | ||
| It's the meaning behind it. | ||
| It's really more about how they don't want certain ideas. | ||
| It's not about sensitivity. | ||
| And, well, you can't say this because this is offensive. | ||
| Well, we can say words that are offensive and there can be offensive statements. | ||
| It's just about for what, towards what, is the problem. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| When you say you're more Matisse than Picasso, as somebody who's a fan of Matisse and Picasso actually, I spent a lot of time in in Santa Fe where they all used to paint together. | ||
| Why do you say Matisse? | ||
| What is it about Matisse that you feel an affinity with? | ||
| I think I feel like Drake is more Picasso and Ye is more Matisse. | ||
| When we talked about When me and Drake went to do the show last year for prison reform and to bring awareness to the incarceration of Larry Hoover, I sent him articles about the relationship of Matisse and Picasso and the need for these people. | ||
| You need to have that, you know, I need to go into the bar and Go to Starbucks. | ||
| That's a form of a modern-day bar, right? | ||
| And just hear Drake's song playing back-to-back. | ||
| And Drake needs to go into that same Starbucks just in a different city and see people wearing Yeezys. | ||
| And it puts us both back into the studio. | ||
| You know, God sets up these almost similar characters, these doppelgangers. | ||
| It makes me really realize God has a sense of humor. | ||
| Like, why is John Galliano and Marc Jacobs the exact same human being? | ||
| Just just place in a different place or why does God have it where Bernard Arnault cannot purchase Gucci, not even through the Chinese market? | ||
| God does this to remind us that we are not God, because when you take people like Elon Musk and Bernard Arnault and Trump or Jack Ma, Putin, you take these people in their own space, in their own environments, you know, we can start to feel like gods on earth, but we are nothing in comparison to God. | ||
| And we are here actually to love one another and to collaborate and to make the world a better place. | ||
| There's, you know, 1% of the world are placed in power and 99% of the world are the audience. | ||
| So that 1% of the world, this idea of a United Nations, this is the world that needs to come together. | ||
| This is the world that, I mean, here's the obvious go-to, Biden doesn't listen to Elon Musk. | ||
| The President of the United States does not have meetings with Elon Musk. | ||
| That is Hey, here, come, come, come, come get me. | ||
| That's f****** retarded. | ||
| I know I'm not supposed to say that, Biden, but that's f****** retarded, Biden. | ||
| And, and I've, you know, it's, um... | ||
| And obviously, because I've been deemed with mental health, all this, I have the right to use whatever words that I like to use. | ||
| Well, that's interesting. | ||
| Ask another question. | ||
| Well, yeah, let me ask you on that. | ||
| So you just said something very inflammatory about President Biden. | ||
| It will, as you know, offend a lot of people. | ||
| And it will particularly offend people who work in mental health. | ||
| You say you should not use a word like retarded. | ||
| But you say that because you yourself have had mental health issues, That entitles you to use that kind of word as an insult. | ||
| Now I would say that's an arguable point. | ||
| I've had, my issue, my issue is I've had mental health allegations. | ||
| So do you believe that you have any form of mental illness? | ||
| I believe that I suffered from exhaustion. | ||
| I believe that I suffered from exhaustion. | ||
| I suffered from being lied to constantly by the people around me. | ||
| And I believe those things can drive anyone to a point of maximum exhaustion. | ||
| But I also believe that I'm extremely brilliant, and I'm here to make the world a better place, and I'm tired of the left media trying to pick on me. | ||
| And y'all picked on me enough, and y'all finally touched the person that's not gonna stand, that's not gonna take it anymore. | ||
| And that's part of the reason why I'm on Uncensored, because what they'd like is for me to be quiet. | ||
| Interesting thing about racism and cancel culture, it's kind of similar, right? | ||
| Racism works on itself. | ||
| I can go into the Gucci store at age 18, and I just assume that people think that I'm about to steal, so I buy more things. | ||
| With cancel culture, when I brought Marilyn Manson on stage with me when he was dealing with allegations, my stepbrother Marilyn was canceling himself. | ||
| What they had so many people comment on my White Lives Matter t-shirt, there's people who are saying right there on Fashion Week, when are you going home? | ||
| I'm so afraid. | ||
| People thought I was going to cancel myself. | ||
| I'm not going to cancel myself. | ||
| I'm going to keep on delivering what I feel, because guess what? | ||
| It's very split opinions, by the way. | ||
| If I talk to a black person that makes under a million dollars a year, they really are—they really relate to the George Floyd comments and feel hurt that I would even Uh, bring it up and question the approach. | ||
| They have multiple documentaries on the death of JFK, but we're just supposed to believe this one media outlet version that preyed on our trauma and our pain. | ||
| And then, if I talk to rich black people, uh, or white people, Jew or Catholic or atheist, They're really into the Jewish media comment because it affects their business interests. | ||
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Okay, well let me... That's... Wow. | |
| That's... Dude. | ||
| This is our guy, man. | ||
| How can anybody say that this guy is crazy or dumb? | ||
| I am constantly impressed. | ||
| I am constantly amazed. | ||
| Because, and it's true, everybody just says, oh he's a rapper, or he's just another rapper, he's just an entertainer or something. | ||
| That is actually such an insightful comment, and it's true! | ||
| Because I saw that on social media. | ||
| Of course, it was the, well, the affluent people, but also white people, and obviously Jews, and affluent liberals that had such a big problem with the jewish media remark | ||
| and and if you looked at like even when i was on no jumper when i was on no jumper with adam 22 and ad and flaco and stico but the the three on the the host the three that were hosting it they didn't even really want to talk about the jewish stuff i I mean, they did, and they kind of conceded. | ||
| They didn't even really care about that. | ||
| They were like, oh, yeah, because I'm, like, known as an anti-Semite. | ||
| I'm, like, known as a Holocaust denier. | ||
| That was not even, like, contentious to them at all. | ||
| At all! | ||
| You remember when I was talking with Adam, he was like, oh yeah, well, they cancelled them. | ||
| It's not even worth arguing about it because they proved it was true because he called out the Jewish media and then the Jewish media cancelled them is basically what he said. | ||
| And we talked about the Holocaust. | ||
| And they were just sort of unfazed by that. | ||
| But what they were bothered by were my remarks about race and race mixing. | ||
| And I noticed that all the black people on Twitter had a problem, and on YouTube too, on the YouTube comments. | ||
| What was notable to them were the comments about George Floyd, not about the Jewish media. | ||
| And it's true. | ||
| And of course, why is that the case? | ||
| It has to do with socialization. | ||
| The Jews obviously have an ethnic interest, you know, and so there's the distinctly Jewish component. | ||
| But why would white liberals be more upset about the Jewish remark? | ||
| Because they were socialized and indoctrinated in school with the Holocaust education and this white supremacy stuff. | ||
| The shadow of Hitler casts a longer shadow on the minds of the white man and the Jew. | ||
| Than the shadow cast by slavery and Jim Crow and the KKK in the consciousness of the black people in America. | ||
| So that's actually really insightful. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| Let me just pick you up on the two things you've mentioned. | ||
| The first one is what you said about George Floyd. | ||
| And the reality of that, it's not a media interpretation of how he died, because the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner concluded that Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest. | ||
| His heart stopped, complicated by the way the police restrained him and compressed his neck. | ||
| Now, he also said there were other contributing Well, hang on, let me finish. | ||
| There were other contributing conditions, narrowed arteries, high blood pressure and fentanyl intoxication. | ||
| But although these were significant conditions, he said, and things that played a role in the death, they didn't directly cause the death. | ||
| The cause of death was what that policeman did with his knee to George Floyd. | ||
| What makes you believe that person? | ||
| Well, why would a coroner lie? | ||
| What makes you believe that? | ||
| Why would a coroner lie? | ||
| Because he could get paid to lie. | ||
| Because he could get paid to lie because he's talking in the press. | ||
| I watched it for eight minutes. | ||
| The majority of the press. | ||
| Right, but I watched it for eight minutes. | ||
| Now tell me this. | ||
| Have you seen the Candace Owens BLM documentary? | ||
| I have watched... | ||
| Uh, some of that documentary. | ||
| But here's what I would say to you. | ||
| When you watch that video of George Floyd... No, it's not a but. | ||
| It's not, it's not, it's not... Well, I haven't watched the whole thing. | ||
| I need you to watch. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know what you said about... I want you to... I know Candace. | ||
| Wait, I'm gonna finish. | ||
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La, la, la... Sorry, I... You don't know what that means, do you? | |
| I know what it means. | ||
| La, la, la means be quiet and let me finish. | ||
| You can interrupt my question. | ||
| So, with the BLM... | ||
| No, I wasn't finished. | ||
| You're pressing agenda. | ||
| You haven't seen the whole thing. | ||
| I don't have an agenda. | ||
| I just read you what the coroner said. | ||
| So we can have 20 different perspectives on how JFK died, but us as black people, not only can we only vote one way, we're not allowed to have any other perspectives, and that the area for George Floyd, where he passed, the murder rate is up 50%, and nothing, this is so-called movement, but it didn't move blacks anywhere. | ||
| Right, now listen, I will say there are legitimate questions about the Black Lives Matter movement, no question. | ||
| But on the specific point about how George Floyd died, I don't think it's in question about what actually killed him. | ||
| It was that police officer with his knee on his neck. | ||
| It isn't. | ||
| It isn't question. | ||
| I'm questioning. | ||
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Well, you can question it, but what you're questioning is a coroner report. | |
| Hey, do you have friends that were killed by police officers? | ||
| Do you have friends that were locked up? | ||
| Do you have friends, do you have people aborting half your race? | ||
| No. | ||
| So I am the black person with the black experience that's worth 11 billion dollars and is the most influential person on the planet. | ||
| And I am questioning it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I have a right to question it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You can't tell me, you can't tell me, you can't tell me with your accent that me as an American, Jew, black person, that I cannot question that death and question the means he had. | ||
| That was put on camera to traumatize. | ||
| I'm not saying you can't question it. | ||
| I'm not finished. | ||
| La la la la means let me finish. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not finished talking. | ||
| So we can't, I cannot see because you distract my thoughts and then you try to make me look like a crazy person and you feel you have the right to cut me off and I've proven you guys don't want it with me. | ||
| This is like Terminator 20. | ||
| You've never seen this before. | ||
| You've never seen this before. | ||
| So I want no one to play with me. | ||
| I have the right to question because that videotape was used to traumatize my people and force us into the Democratic vote. | ||
| Hey, George Soros, you're a real competitor. | ||
| I respect you. | ||
| I'm worth more money than you and I have more influence than you and have, you know, Piers Morgan from a different country saying, well, the, uh, I'm not going to do an English accent because that would be racist. | ||
| Fine! | ||
| I know you can do that. | ||
| As I said to you, the show is uncensored, yeah? | ||
| You can say what the hell you like, right? | ||
| But that doesn't mean I can't pick you up on a few things, right? | ||
| You accept that? | ||
| I accept that, but you try to say it is unquestionable because this one Dr. Fauci said this. | ||
| I know it wasn't Dr. Fauci, but I'm just giving an example where we hear from even Google. | ||
| Like, people feel like, you know, if you Google it, it's factual. | ||
| There's so much non-factual information about me On Google. | ||
| But then I still believe Google. | ||
| And people pay to get certain information to the top of Google. | ||
| But this is good. | ||
| This is keep going. | ||
| Where else you want to go with it? | ||
| Here's where I want to go. | ||
| The civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt responded to what you said about George Floyd's death and said, While one cannot defame the dead, the family of George Floyd is considering suit—which they're now doing, as you know, they're suing you for $250 million—for Ye's false statements about the manner of his death. | ||
| Claiming Floyd died from fentanyl, not the brutality established criminally and civilly, undermines and diminishes the Floyd family's fight. | ||
| So what is your response to that? | ||
| Well, anybody who loses a loved one, my heart goes out to them. | ||
| Any race, my heart goes out to the pain of that. | ||
| I have a theory about it. | ||
| Now, this is not a fact. | ||
| This is a feeling that I have. | ||
| In the documentary, George Floyd's two roommates said that George kept saying, they want a tall guy like me. | ||
| They want a tall guy like me. | ||
| So for me, I'm a creative, right? | ||
| I can, like, make a dinosaur out of a femur, right? | ||
| So if I'm making a dinosaur out of a femur, and I'm looking at a documentary that says George Floyd was telling his two roommates they want a tall guy like me, and on the day of his death, He prayed for eight minutes. | ||
| They said he prayed longer than he ever prayed. | ||
| What do you think me, as a creative mind, the beautiful mind, right? | ||
| The sensitive mind. | ||
| What do you think I feel could have happened in that situation? | ||
| All right, well, honestly, if I'm being honest with you, I would say that because of your brilliant, beautiful, creative mind, as you put it, and I don't dispute that at all, you've got an extraordinary mind. | ||
| And I can see that in the way that you conduct interviews. | ||
| You go off on very long tangents, but they're sort of fascinating. | ||
| I find it fascinating to listen to you. | ||
| I'm not saying you don't have a right to question... Sort of, quite. | ||
| These are like Capote-level fascinating tangents. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| I'm just saying it's a way you conduct yourself, and I think that's very interesting. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Oh, it's not? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why is it, oh, it's not Capote level? | ||
| If you would like me to compare you to Truman Capote, I am happy to do that. | ||
| If you want to be known as the new Capote, I'm with you. | ||
| I'm not going to question your talent. | ||
| Your talent to me is completely unquestionable. | ||
| Answer the question about the femur to the dinosaur on this situation. | ||
| I'm just going to ask you this. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You're going to know. | ||
| I didn't finish my question. | ||
| Well, hang on. | ||
| You've got to answer my question first. | ||
| You can't tell me what questions to ask you. | ||
| You accept that I'm the interviewer. | ||
| No, I said answer my question. | ||
| No, I'm interviewing you too. | ||
| Well, you can't interview me. | ||
| It's my interview. | ||
| You're Bono. | ||
| I'm interviewing you too. | ||
| See, that's the way we rap. | ||
| You get it? | ||
| You gonna say it? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Let me just put this to you. | ||
| So, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're trying to avoid something. | ||
| You're trying to avoid something. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| La, la, la, la, la, la, la. | ||
| That's quite a phrase. | ||
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You're interrupting me now. | |
| I'm gonna get back to it. | ||
| I'm gonna get back to it. | ||
| Alright, you can, but let me ask you this. | ||
| Because you haven't answered my question. | ||
| Here's my question for you, which you haven't answered. | ||
| No, I'm not answering. | ||
| Don't answer my question. | ||
| I'm not answering anything. | ||
| I'm going back to my original question in a way, which is simply this. | ||
| I'm not saying you don't have a right to question how George Floyd died, but given the world watched that horrifying video of that policeman's knee on his neck, and given that is what the coroner said caused his death, albeit he had other underlying conditions including fentanyl intoxication, When the family sees someone like you, who's hugely influential, you're known around the world, questioning how their loved one died, they find that very hurtful. | ||
| Well, look at what they do. | ||
| Here's the amazing thing. | ||
| If you have the contrary opinion, I just want to pause and just interject and acknowledge this is what's happening. | ||
| If you have the contrary opinion, they shut you down, and they call you names, and they cancel you. | ||
| You know, Ye set on the drink champs that he doesn't think George Floyd died from the police. | ||
| And he gets Disavowed. | ||
| They attack him in the press. | ||
| They cancel him. | ||
| Balenciaga splits with him. | ||
| So he does this interview to clear the air, or whatever it is, and then they're gonna do the debate. | ||
| Then they say, oh, okay, well, let's do the debate then. | ||
| Oh, okay, so let's do the debate then on whether George Floyd died. | ||
| And here Ye is explaining, well, what I meant by it is this. | ||
| I think it's interesting that, you know, the rich cared more about the Jew media comment, and the black people and the poor people cared more. | ||
| about the George Floyd comment. | ||
| He said, and If you look at what's happening in the neighborhood the crime rate is way up and nobody cares about that and so the black trauma was weaponized against black people to achieve a certain political result and what do you think about these details in the documentary which you didn't even watch which you didn't even see the other position we're not allowed to have another and and so he sees and then he throws it back and said you know what do you make of my argument and Pierce throws it back and it's just | ||
| It's just this emotional blackmail stuff. | ||
| Well, you're so powerful, you're so famous, and the poor family, they're so hurt by this. | ||
| This video where the knee is on his poor neck for... Like, don't you understand that they don't have any arguments? | ||
| They don't want to argue. | ||
| They cancel you. | ||
| And then, when they begin to argue, they just retreat back into this sort of emotional gaslighting. | ||
| He gets cancelled for his initial contrary opinion, and then they get into it. | ||
| Then Piers Morgan is goaded into debating the subject, and then remembers, oh yeah, we can't debate this, and retreats back into hurt. | ||
| Oh, the family, the victims, the trauma, the hurt feelings. | ||
| And that's just bullshit. | ||
| You know, because if they're going to have a discussion, then have the discussion, which entails a back and forth. | ||
| And that means that you need to hear what the other person says, and understand it, and then respond to the substance of what was said. | ||
| And so Ye says, and he's making, I think, valid, cogent, relevant points, which are what? | ||
| That if the murder rate went up where George Floyd was killed, after all was said and done, and there's no coverage about that, then was that really about the well-being of black people? | ||
| If the movement was intended to advance the cause of black welfare, the welfare of the black people, then how could you say that it achieved that if black people are worse off in that neighborhood afterward? | ||
| And what's more, there's a political agenda clearly, and the other side hasn't even heard the contrary argument. | ||
| You know, the mainstream peers hasn't even seen, oh well I saw part of it, oh well I don't really know what you're talking about anyway, aren't you just, don't you just feel guilty about the hurt feelings you're causing with your questions? | ||
| Our whole, the whole political conversation is like this. | ||
| It's just about victims. | ||
| It's just about weaponizing sensitivity, weaponizing victimization, whether it's Sandy Hook or George Floyd or the Holocaust. | ||
| Don't you dare ask questions because what if you hurt people's feelings? | ||
| You're a monster, you're a bully, you're a nasty person. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Now you're hurting everybody's feelings, and now you're defaming people. | ||
| Now we're going to sue you for $3 trillion. | ||
| Why they're now suing you for it. | ||
| And my question for you is, do you understand the pain that sometimes your comments can cause? | ||
| See? | ||
| Fuck that! | ||
| You understand the pain your comments can cause? | ||
| We live in a... We live in the world. | ||
| We live in a society. | ||
| We cannot not have important discussions because of sensitivity. | ||
| Which, by the way, the sensitivity is a conditioned response. | ||
| When he says, your comments are hurting people's feelings, that sensitivity is a conditioned, programmed response by the media. | ||
| There are a lot of things that cause hurt feelings. | ||
| So many things cause hurt feelings. | ||
| And there are things that should cause hurt feelings. | ||
| But we only hone in on and focus in on that and draw attention to it when it's things that the media doesn't want us to talk about, that the powerful don't want us to talk about. | ||
| And I know I'm, you know, this is not really necessarily groundbreaking stuff, but it's important to break out of the, to stop being manipulated and break the cycle to recognize the emotional manipulation at work. | ||
| That's all, they always go to, these are the new words, they say hurt, Harm. | ||
| Harm is a big one. | ||
| You hear this a lot. | ||
| They talk about harm, harm prevention, and causes harm. | ||
| There's this new, like, sociology vocabulary that all these faggots use now, where they say hurt, and harm, and trauma, and all these kinds of things. | ||
| Instead of using words like, you know, certainty, and truth, and veracity, and... Instead of talking about the strength, Like this circumstance with George Floyd's family. | ||
| an argument, instead of talking about the righteousness of a particular cause or whether something is sensible, reasonable, whether something is just, you have these discussions about harm, harm prevention. | ||
| And what can harm be? | ||
| Oh, anything. | ||
| Like this circumstance with George Floyd's family. | ||
| Now, I'm going to ask you a question again. | ||
| With my imagination, if you see, when you see in the documentary that George Floyd's two roommates said, he said, they want a tall guy like me. | ||
| They want a tall guy like me. | ||
| And that he prayed extra long on the day of his passing. | ||
| Where do you think that takes my beautiful mind? | ||
| I think it can take you to a place where you want to believe something which may not be true. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying all the evidence points... You didn't answer it. | ||
| Well, I'm giving you an honest answer. | ||
| You didn't answer it. | ||
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My honest answer is I think that they... That wasn't honest, that was a... | |
| That was a political... No, my honest belief, my honest belief is... Hey, what do you guys do? | ||
| I mean, people in the newsroom, what are they doing? | ||
| They're like cringing right now? | ||
| They're like, whoa, we never experienced this before. | ||
| We never experienced a black entertainer that won't be threatened by the media to back down from his opinion. | ||
| Yeah, I think you misstate me. | ||
| You misstate me for somebody who's going to be like the others. | ||
| I have a show called Uncensored for a reason. | ||
| I'm giving you a platform for a reason. | ||
| But you're pressing an agenda. | ||
| No, no, I'm not. | ||
| You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. | ||
| You're pressing your agenda. | ||
| You're lying now. | ||
| Do you accept you may not always be right? | ||
| I just called you a liar. | ||
| How does that make you feel? | ||
| That's fine if you think I'm a liar. | ||
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That's fine. | |
| No, you're a liar. | ||
| You're pressing the agenda of the pain and trauma and trauma economy that is pressed on my people by the left. | ||
| Actually, the trauma I think that was implemented to George Floyd was from a vile, white, racist police officer who kneed him to his death. | ||
| And I agree with the coroner's findings because I don't see any reason why the coroner would invent that. | ||
| So that's my belief. | ||
| If you want to challenge that and you don't believe it, that's entirely your right. | ||
| I have a question. | ||
| Who do you think are the biggest vile, white, racist? | ||
| The media. | ||
| You think the media's racist? | ||
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I like how he asks, who do you think are the biggest racists? | |
| The media. | ||
| Asks it and answers it. | ||
| I was going to say something about... | ||
| Oh yeah, you know they always do this trick where they say, well I'm giving you a platform so you're not really censored. | ||
| Do you really believe in your heart of hearts that the purpose of this interview, the purpose of getting gay on the platform, is to allow him to address this? | ||
| Do you think that there's any scenario where Piers is going to allow the conversation to go in a direction where Piers is going to change his mind? | ||
| Or where the show is going to be perceived as being sympathetic or positive towards Ye? | ||
| They always do this. | ||
| But whenever they give you a platform, it's always just about guilt tripping and browbeating Like this. | ||
| Pushing this, well what about the victims? | ||
| Won't engage with what Ye is saying. | ||
| Won't engage with the counter-argument. | ||
| But just this constant pushing of, you're given to delusion. | ||
| You're giving yourself over to believe something that's not true. | ||
| I'm not even going to engage with that. | ||
| No, I haven't seen the documentary. | ||
| No, I don't even care what's in it. | ||
| You're telling me what's in it? | ||
| I'm not even going to engage with that. | ||
| I'm going to pretend like I didn't hear it. | ||
| What do I think about that? | ||
| I think you're trying to believe something that I've already presumed isn't true. | ||
| What do you think about all the harm and suffering you're causing? | ||
| It's just like straight-up mind control. | ||
| It always is. | ||
| These platforms are not there, and Piers Morgan is the king of this. | ||
| They are not there to give a fair hearing. | ||
| They are not there for anybody to be sympathetic to the person that is on the receiving end. | ||
| They are there to reinforce the whatever, the canceling, the particular narrative that they want to push. | ||
| And that's always how it goes. | ||
| The person in this role is never open-minded. | ||
| And they'll always say, well, I'm trying to ask tough questions. | ||
| It's not tough questions. | ||
| Tough questions are reasonable. | ||
| Tough questions are reasonable questions that a reasonable person would ask. | ||
| And if there's a reasonable answer, they'll engage with a reasonable answer. | ||
| This is not a tough question. | ||
| This is the battering ram. | ||
| Which is completely one-sided. | ||
| Asking tough questions doesn't mean that you're not going to accept an acceptable answer, that you're unwilling to engage with or accept a reasonable answer. | ||
| I would understand if peers were playing devil's advocate and asking that and said, oh okay, well let's explore that, let's go into that. | ||
| But you see, the whole approach is dismissive. | ||
| Oh, I didn't watch that documentary. | ||
| Anyway... Oh, uh, I don't care what you just said. | ||
| Anyway, I'm gonna ask my first question again. | ||
| You can't ask me questions. | ||
| Anyway... And it's just about swatting that down and just reinforcing the frame. | ||
| Let's bring it back to the frame I like. | ||
| How about all the people's feelings you hurt? | ||
| What about that George Floyd prayed and said they want a big guy? | ||
| Yeah, I don't care about any of that. | ||
| Anyway, let's go back to the first question. | ||
| How about all the people's feelings you're hurting? | ||
| That's not tough questions. | ||
| That's not holding somebody accountable. | ||
| That's pressing an agenda. | ||
| That's being insistent on framing the conversation in a certain way and disarming Ye with charm and pretending to be friendly and saying, oh yeah, you're funny, oh sure, you're such a genius, oh yeah, you're like Capote. | ||
| Anyway, tell me about all the people's feelings you're hurting and how you believe things that aren't true. | ||
| And I'm just gonna dismiss everything you say. | ||
| Even though you're a genius, I'm just gonna dismiss everything you say and not really take it seriously. | ||
| It's so dishonest. | ||
| What? | ||
| Please, next question. | ||
| Please don't ask me any retarded questions. | ||
| Let me go to the next furore, which has been around you in the last couple of weeks, which is your attacks. | ||
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Is that British for theory? | |
| Is that British for theory? | ||
| What's theory, bro? | ||
| Is that British for theory? | ||
| You actually have quite a good British accent. | ||
| Let me ask you, if I can, about the allegations that you have made anti-Semitic comments. | ||
| And in particular, when you said on Instagram, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going DEFCON 3 on Jewish people. | ||
| Now, many people who are Jewish found that deeply offensive. | ||
| They wanted to know, what did you mean by going DEFCON 3 on Jewish people? | ||
| Because DEFCON 3, as you know, is a heightened state of awareness for military action. | ||
| So, what did you mean by that? | ||
| What was, here's your chance to clarify what you meant by DEFCON 3 on Jewish people. | ||
| Well, thank you for allowing me to say what I meant due to the fact that I was blocked by Jewish people after I said that. | ||
| I wasn't actually allowed to say what I was about to say. | ||
| But what I was going to say is, I was going to talk about all of the contracts All of the misdealings that I dealt with as an entertainer, being that I'm an entertainer, I've been wronged so many times by Jewish businessmen. | ||
| And the reason why I say people, if a black man is caught in the car with drugs or a gun, And there's three other black guys in the car with him. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| They're all going to jail. | ||
| So the reason why I say people is, I want those businessmen's wives and fathers, mothers, grandmothers, and kids to ask them, why is Ye so mad? | ||
| at us because they're taking money out of my children's mouths and putting it into their children's mouths. | ||
| I'll give you this parallel and this analogy. | ||
| If you take, you know, I just talked to Irina Shaikh, right? | ||
| And if you look at a picture of her at age 14, this person is beautiful, like one of the most beautiful people that God has ever created, right? | ||
| And if any man did her wrong at a young age, she would get to the point where maybe she would You've heard that terminology, right? | ||
| So I'm at a point where I'm frustrated, I have the right to my anger, and I'm saying that people need to fix it. | ||
| I'm not going to fix what I feel until what I'm feeling is fixed. | ||
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You're not just going to shut me up and say... No, I'm not going to shut you up. | |
| Can I respond to what you just said? | ||
| My problem with what you've said, I'll be straight with you, is if I, as a white man, posted tomorrow on my Instagram, I'm a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I'm going DEATH CON 3 on black people, what would you think? | ||
| Do you? | ||
| No, no, if I said black people, what would you think? | ||
| If that was what I posted. | ||
| Well, did you accept that black people, you accepted that black people are Jew? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'll come to that in a moment. | ||
| On the specific though, if I simply said, in other words, all black people, was the implication of what I said, I would get rightly cancelled, I would get rightly vilified and abused. | ||
| You, I suspect, would be outraged by a white person saying such a thing, because you wouldn't make any distinction about whether I was talking about certain black business people I'd fallen out with or whatever. | ||
| You would think I was judging an entire populace by the colour of their skin. | ||
| You are, by saying Jewish people, on Jewish people, you're not saying Jewish businessmen, accountants, whatever, that you've had a problem with. | ||
| You're basically saying in that statement, all Jewish people, which is why it caused such offence. | ||
| And I'm curious whether you even, as you wrote those words, understood what Jewish people actually would feel when you said that, and didn't make any specific references to any individuals. | ||
| Maybe they would feel how all my people have felt. | ||
| Maybe they would feel the pain of when a black artist looks up and they've completely been raped by five Jewish businessmen. | ||
| And there's multiple accounts of this happening. | ||
| Why does the fact that they're Jewish have anything to do with it? | ||
| Maybe they would feel like that. | ||
| But why would you say again? | ||
| It just so happens they are. | ||
| Well, OK, but I wouldn't... Why categorise them according to their religious faith, their ethnicity? | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| Why can't you just describe them as business people that you've dealt with? | ||
| That's fine, but what you're doing by saying Jewish people, these constant tirades, yay, against Jewish people... | ||
| Wait, why are you calling it a tirade? | ||
| That sounds like you haven't... I think it's a tirade. | ||
| Where's the tirade? | ||
| That was just... That was a tweet. | ||
| It was a tweet. | ||
| It's not just a tweet, is it? | ||
| And you asked me to explain it. | ||
| And that... Have you felt my pain yet? | ||
| You haven't felt my pain. | ||
| I've... You don't want to feel my pain. | ||
| I'm just... No, hang on. | ||
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You don't hold accounta... La, la, la, la, la. | |
| You don't hold accountability. | ||
| To my pain, you're being a Karen. | ||
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I'm talking about my own accountability to the pain. | |
| I'm not a Karen and I'm not going to cancel you and I'm not going to uncensor you. | ||
| I'm simply going to challenge you on what you're saying. | ||
| I think you don't understand the pain that you've been causing with some of these comments and I think that one in particular I can understand. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| God forbid, God forbid one comment could cause people to feel any of the pain that my people have went through for years even like the blacks being ushered to the left during the civil rights movement no one has cared why does he okay why no all right no one is can i let me say i agree that the racism against black people has been utterly it is so true when he says uh i'm not on a tirade | ||
| that's always what it's always those weasel words. | ||
| That's always how they get you, where they go, you're on a rant. | ||
| You're on a tirade! | ||
| He put out three tweets or three posts. | ||
| The Instagram post and two tweets. | ||
| Tirade! | ||
| Tirade? | ||
| And that's how they get ya. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Deplorable, shameful, unacceptable, and thank God the world is beginning to move to a better place about the way it has treated black people like you. | ||
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However, however, one form of racism doesn't justify another. | |
| One form of racism doesn't justify another. | ||
| I'm not cutting you off, I'm finishing my sentence so you can respond. | ||
| One form of racism, one form of racism, it is racism when you say I'm going deaf-blind for hearing Jewish people. | ||
| That's racism! | ||
| No it's not! | ||
| It is! | ||
| I thought you had a platform where I could explain how I felt. | ||
| You don't care about how I feel, you just want to shut me up. | ||
| You don't want me to say out loud what my people have been going through. | ||
| I do. | ||
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Or do you? | |
| I do. | ||
| I'm very happy to do that. | ||
| So what have my people have been going through? | ||
| What led me to that point? | ||
| What led me, a person, a successful, influential, extremely attractive person, to get to that point? | ||
| I am not doubting for a moment that you will feel genuine pain about the racism against you and other black people in America. | ||
| Not for one second would I deny that. | ||
| Racism by who? | ||
| Racism by who? | ||
| By anybody. | ||
| I think any form of racism is wrong. | ||
| Any form of racism is wrong. | ||
| I didn't say Def Con on anybody though. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| said defcon 3 on jewish people let's go specifically jewish people you didn't say any particular jewish person you said basically all of them that is racism yay and i think if you were honest with yourself given the fallout from this you would think again about how you phrase that sentence because actually you didn't mean all jewish people give it the fallout give it the fallout give it the fallout Do you care about the hurt you cause Jewish people? | ||
| What fallout? | ||
| Well, you were removed from social media. | ||
| Wait a second, you're not allowing me to talk, Chris. | ||
| Oh, I thought it was the same person. | ||
| He's American. | ||
| I'm British. | ||
| So the thing is, I want to bring joy to the world. | ||
| I'm a composer, right? | ||
| And this is a symphony. | ||
| Our life is a symphony. | ||
| We have so many beautiful ideas, but I feel the anti-Semite has been a wall, a cloak, that allows Jewish businessmen Boom. | ||
| I'll only be the police officer that says, hey, this guy with the gun is the only person going to jail. | ||
| I'll be the first person that does that in history, right? | ||
| So look, no one else in this car riding with the guy with the gun and the drugs is going to jail. | ||
| Are you happy? | ||
| I'll play by rules that are not played by for my people. | ||
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Just for the sake of this conversation, right? | |
| I don't want you playing by any... That makes you happy, right? | ||
| I don't want you to say things just to make me happy. | ||
| That's what colonizers do, is give us rules. | ||
| I'm not trying to colonize you. | ||
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That's what colonizers do, is give us rules. | |
| I'm not trying to colonize you. | ||
| I'm not trying to censor you. | ||
| All I'm saying to you is, when you use a phrase, yay, like, I'm going death-con-free on Jewish people... Did you hear what I just said, though? | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| We're past that. | ||
| We're past that in conversation. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| We're not past it. | ||
| Did you hear what I just said? | ||
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We're not past it unless you prepare to- Are you happy that I said I'll focus on- Let me explain what I- Let me explain. | |
| Are you happy that I said- I know. | ||
| I heard what you- Woah, brother! | ||
| Why are you talking over me? | ||
| Yay? | ||
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Yay? | |
| Let me get- Why- Let me respond. | ||
| Yay? | ||
| Chris? | ||
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Yay? | |
| I'm Chris. | ||
| Let's respond. | ||
| Let me respond, right? | ||
| I'm simply saying what you've just said is not what you said on your Instagram post, and you know it, right? | ||
| If you have a problem with particular businessmen who happen to be Jewish, that is a concern for you! | ||
| And you know it! | ||
| And I was in a position where I've been hurt, and this is the way I had the right to express myself. | ||
| The point of this interview is for you to question me, and then for me to answer and say, okay, even though the same rules do not apply to my people, if a person with a gun or drugs is pulled over and has four, three other people in the car, they're all going to jail. | ||
| I'm not going to apply that to Jewish people for the sake of this conversation. | ||
| Isn't that what you wanted? | ||
| But you know what you did? | ||
| You tried to civil rights me. | ||
| You tried to pull me back to a week ago. | ||
| But we're here today. | ||
| There's been plenty of conversations and commentary since that. | ||
| But you want me to go back to 1960. | ||
| You want me to go back to seven days ago. | ||
| Alright, let me jump in. | ||
| Here's what I want you to do. | ||
| I want you to reflect... Okay, so have we grown? | ||
| Have we grown? | ||
| Here's how we grow, yeah. | ||
| Here's how we grow. | ||
| I want you to reflect... No, have we grown? | ||
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Have we grown? | |
| You're not in charge of my growth. | ||
| You're not in charge of my growth, Chris. | ||
| But here's how we grow. | ||
| I'm about to suggest to you how you may grow if you choose to grow this way. | ||
| And you can ignore me. | ||
| You can ignore me. | ||
| Pierce, how much money are you worth? | ||
| Not as much as you, sadly. | ||
| Exactly, so take my advice, maybe you'll get richer. | ||
| I would love to take your business advice. | ||
| Why would I listen to you? | ||
| Why don't you hear what my advice is and then work out if I'm wrong? | ||
| Can we do that deal? | ||
| You haven't given me any credit or a moment of reflection for the comparison that I made, the brilliant, if I do say so myself, comparison that I made to the cops pulling over one black person and locking everyone up. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| Having issues. | ||
| Wait a second, I wasn't done with the sentence. | ||
| La la la. | ||
| My tweet, referring to all Jewish people, I said, for the sake of this conversation, I will refer to the business people who have destroyed me and my people and my fellow creatives. | ||
| But you didn't even accept that I gave you that. | ||
| You tried to push me back into 1960. | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| You tried to push me back into last week. | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| Okay, do you accept that example that I gave you? | ||
| I understand completely the example you gave me. | ||
| I think all racism is wrong. | ||
| So I just feel that we've grown. | ||
| I would like you to reflect... I feel we've grown. | ||
| Do you feel we've grown? | ||
| If you've now changed what you wanted to say originally, my question for you is, do you now regret saying... I update every day. | ||
| ...death gone free on Jewish people? | ||
| Are you sorry you said that? | ||
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No. | |
| I think it matters. | ||
| You should be. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| You should be. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Yeah, but yeah, you should be. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Are the people... See, and that's... | ||
| This is what it's about. | ||
| I want to give you a platform to express yourself and respond. | ||
| You need to apologize. | ||
| You should feel bad. | ||
| You need to apologize about what you said. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| You said last week, I demand an apology. | ||
| You need to feel sorry. | ||
| Jewish businessmen that led me to that place, are they sorry for the way they've raped my people? | ||
| I don't know who you're talking about in particular, but I don't know why you keep having to say... And then it's always, oh, I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| I'm not even... You know, because Ye says, aren't you interested in what got me to this point and who did this to me? | ||
| The Jewish people that did this to me? | ||
| Totally dismissed. | ||
| Not part of the narrative. | ||
| Not part of the frame. | ||
| Yeah, just forget that. | ||
| What is the fact that they're Jewish got to do with anything? | ||
| Why do you keep doing that? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| They're the Jewish businessmen that did that. | ||
| They're business people. | ||
| That's what they did. | ||
| Why do you keep saying Jewish business people? | ||
| Why do you keep using their religion, their ethnicity? | ||
| Why do you keep doing that? | ||
| Let me update it then. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, so I'll say this. | ||
| Would it be, would I have grown into the box you want me to go on if I say to specify the business people that have raped my people that just so happen to be Jewish? | ||
| By doing what you've just done, I find that I'm not even Jewish and I find that offensive. | ||
| Why do you keep having to do that? | ||
| I don't think you get it at all. | ||
| I don't think you understand the offence you're causing when you keep using their religious background, their ethnicity, as a stick to beat them with. | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| So what are you more concerned about? | ||
| Getting the richest black man of all time to kowtow? | ||
| Because it's not gonna happen. | ||
| I don't want you to kowtow. | ||
| You can do what the hell you like. | ||
| You're gay. | ||
| You're a billionaire. | ||
| You can do what the hell you want. | ||
| I'm just saying to you that I don't think you quite understand. | ||
| When you talk about... Okay. | ||
| Can I finish? | ||
| It's not, uh, multi... multi... You're a multi-billionaire. | ||
| Okay, well, congratulations. | ||
| But that doesn't change the fact that when you insult the Jewish people and say you're going death-torn free on the Jewish people, that is as racist as anything you say you've been through and any pain that you've experienced. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Racism is racism. | ||
| And you know that, I think, don't you? | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| That's why I said it. | ||
| So you said it knowing it's racist? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I fought fire with fire. | ||
| I'm not here to get hosed down. | ||
| At least that's honest. | ||
| It's a different type of freedom fighter. | ||
| That's honest. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| You were racist because you knew it was racist but you decided to do that because people have been racist to you. | ||
| Is that your position? | ||
| No. | ||
| First of all, I can't... What is the beginning? | ||
| Read the whole tweet. | ||
| I'm sure you have it in front of you. | ||
| Somebody in your office has it. | ||
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Get him a coffee and a yay tweet! | |
| What do you want to know? | ||
| The whole tweet? | ||
| I want you to read it out loud, sir. | ||
| I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going DEFCON 3 on Jewish people. | ||
| The funny thing is, I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew. | ||
| Also, you guys are toying with me and trying to blackball anyone who opposes your agenda. | ||
| That was the exact tweet. | ||
| I like reading that whole thing. | ||
| I can't be anti-Semite. | ||
| I love Jewish people. | ||
| I work with Jewish people. | ||
| Yo, watch this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Some of my best friends are Jewish. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you know how that sounds. | ||
| How many times have you heard that statement? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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Wait, wait, have we ever heard that term before? | |
| Some of my, but the funny thing is they are. | ||
| I work with Dove Charney that got kicked out of his company out of American Apparel. | ||
| I work with this guy every day. | ||
| He's like my twin. | ||
| He's one of my favorite people. | ||
| And the planet. | ||
| And we work through that. | ||
| We talk through it. | ||
| And he says, yay, why are you so mad? | ||
| And I'm like, this is why I'm mad. | ||
| This contract right here. | ||
| What's going to happen before I'm done? | ||
| We're going to open up all of the music industry contracts. | ||
| All of the publishing deals. | ||
| All of the athlete deals. | ||
| All of the acting deals. | ||
| All of the mortgages. | ||
| All of the deals. | ||
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But that's fine. | |
| But yay, that's all fine. | ||
| Business people who we went at. | ||
| That's all fine. | ||
| You can do all of course you can do that. | ||
| But it has to start somewhere. | ||
| Of course you can do all that. | ||
| And when you do that, I hope you won't be judged as a black business person doing it all the time. | ||
| That people don't phrase it all the time by the color of your skin, but by your business acumen. | ||
| Isn't that what you would like? | ||
| Isn't that what equality actually means? | ||
| Of course I'll be judged by that. | ||
| Because when people come into power... | ||
| People get judged. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| There's nobody that gets judged more than a straight, white male. | ||
| The straight, white male has the least amount of a platform to even speak. | ||
| A straight, white male can't say, my wife hurt me today. | ||
| Because people will say, well, you're hurting women. | ||
| A straight, white male can't say, hey, a black employee didn't come in to work on time. | ||
| Because then people will say, you're racist. | ||
| White male can't speak on a homosexual person because they'll say you're homophobic. | ||
| And so I empathize with the position of the straight white male. | ||
| Our guy. | ||
| And part of the reason why I empathize with that position is because I know that I'm headed to that position. | ||
| And what position that is? | ||
| Top power position. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's the top power position where you get all the rocks thrown. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| I have friends, right, that will like, you know, actually that's the reason why I'm going to be a good leader someday because I'm really empathetic. | ||
| But I call black people out on their stuff. | ||
| I call white people out on their stuff because we're all people. | ||
| We're actually only one species. | ||
| And in order to whether it's my friends texting me like bro you got to get in the gym you're looking chubby in the photo you know it's like we have to hold each other accountable to what's actually happening and it's so much is based on you did that tweet wrong so what I will say is I feel that my words demand more sensitivity for the frequency that I'm operating at and the amount of people that I'm communicating to. | ||
| And I take that responsibility right now. | ||
| But I will also say everything happens for a reason. | ||
| Because if it had been perfectly worded in English, Because there's nothing whiter than English itself, right? | ||
| I'm already not speaking in my mother tongue, right? | ||
| So, if I had perfectly worded it in the most sensitive way, then we wouldn't be here right now. | ||
| Now we're opening up the conversation. | ||
| I'm not allowed to say whether or not I'm running for office in 2024, but I'll tell you what, if the left, let's say the left, The left would have never supported me anyway. | ||
| And now I've got to call to attention, I am who you should support. | ||
| The left did not allow Trump to be president. | ||
| They treated him like he wasn't even the president. | ||
| So even then he won, he was losing half of the American people every day and it divided the country. | ||
| What I'm saying, whoever goes into office for British media, for American media, we must support our leaders. | ||
| And not just run this hyper-negative—you know what I will—and black people hate when I apologize for this. | ||
| When I see people like John Legend and Chrissy Teigen talk down on the president, I'm like, wow, that kind of sounds like me. | ||
| That kind of sounds like the telethon. | ||
| I opened up this level of disrespect towards our leaders and people were happy. | ||
| Ah, and the left saw that and say, well, let's just have every celebrity do what Ye did at the telethon. | ||
| So I take responsibility for that moment. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I just want to give every Jewish person A big hug. | ||
| Also, I'm envious of the Jewish people. | ||
| I'm envious of how they don't abort their children. | ||
| I'm envious of how they don't shoot each other in the streets and then rap about it. | ||
| I'm envious of how their families stay together. | ||
| I'm envious that they turn their phones off on Friday night and the family comes together. | ||
| I'm envious of how they do business together. | ||
| And I want that for the darker Jews. | ||
| I want that for the black people. | ||
| I want that. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| God said we should remove the word want, right? | ||
| We're gonna have that. | ||
| And this is the beginning of it. | ||
| But it seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you are acknowledging, as you've just acknowledged that it was wrong to say what you said about President Bush when he said he doesn't care about black people, and that may have encouraged all this disrespect towards presidents since. | ||
| I think it's an interesting point you made. | ||
| It does seem to me, Ye, talking to you, that even if it's hard for you to admit this, that you do regret the wording of that tweet which caused all the problems, and you wouldn't phrase it that way again. | ||
| Am I right? | ||
| I would tell my dad that. | ||
| My dad loved the White Lives Matter t-shirt because what audacity does a black man have to wear the exact same t-shirt that a white man could wear? | ||
| You know, and my dad was a Black Panther. | ||
| I mean, we have a water purification center. | ||
| You know, he's like the original Steve Jobs. | ||
| He's the educated version of me, right? | ||
| And he liked Both of those things. | ||
| But he said, you know, yeah, he even calls me now. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you've got to be more sophisticated with your wording. | ||
| And that wording, like I said, I'm a bit sleepy and it lacked the sophistication needed To be the true conductor that I am. | ||
| Because it's the conductor's job to bring people together. | ||
| And that was divisive. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is not who I want to be. | ||
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Right. | |
| So we... You know, so I'll tell you that. | ||
| I'm not looking... And also, let me... Well, sounds like you agree... Sounds like you agree with me. | ||
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Do you agree with me then? | |
| I want to, I want to talk, okay, let me, let me say that I'm just thinking right now what's on my heart is the idea for people who do actually have severe mental health issues, you know, the word retarded for, you know, there's parents that have children who actually are mentally ill and that word is really offensive. | ||
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Right. | |
| To those people. | ||
| So why are you there? | ||
| And, and just because, yeah, just because I was, I was feeling, um, uh, uh, well, it's a couple of reasons. | ||
| Because people call me retarded. | ||
| They treat me like I'm retarded. | ||
| Uh, and so I embrace it. | ||
| It's like, you call somebody an a** so much, they say, I'm a**. | ||
| You call somebody a bitch so much, they say, I'm a bitch. | ||
| You call somebody a retarded so much, you say, I'm retarded. | ||
| Like, I was exhausted, and I embraced the idea of having a serious mental health issue. | ||
| But Noah, I mean, not Noah, Noah also, but Moses was basically on speed when he was doing what he did. | ||
| Let me ask you, yeah, I mean, look, out of interest, out of interest, how much sleep do you get at night? | ||
| I'm not here to talk about how much sleep I get. | ||
| I don't owe you that. | ||
| You've literally just been talking about... How much sleep do you get at night? | ||
| I had about five and a half hours last night, actually. | ||
| Not very much. | ||
| But you're the one that's raised this issue. | ||
| And I probably had the same. | ||
| Right. | ||
| My question is only because... I probably had the same, but what... It's only because you've been talking about you don't believe you have a mental illness. | ||
| You think it's lack of sleep. | ||
| So I think it's an obvious question to ask, well, how much sleep do you get? | ||
| Are you constantly sleep deprived? | ||
| Is that one of the reasons perhaps sometimes, as you say, you feel sleepy and you shoot from the hip verbally and you say stuff that maybe when you're rested, you wouldn't say it the same way. | ||
| Would that be fair? | ||
| Tell me what's... | ||
| Okay, no, it's not fair because what's more important? | ||
| The pain and the truth of what I'm talking about and what led me to that tweet or the tweet itself? | ||
| I think both can be true. | ||
| The problem you have is, I think you've acknowledged that the wording of the tweet was offensive. | ||
| Yes, I understand, but you know the damage it caused. | ||
| I understand that that was offensive. | ||
| And I think that you have accepted that you probably shouldn't have phrased it that way. | ||
| No, you as a white person are so stuck on the idea that what I said was offensive, which is a very Karen approach. | ||
| You're not sticking on the fact, you have not unpacked what happened with those contracts. | ||
| I've said that, but you didn't ask me another question about it. | ||
| That means there's an agenda inside of your platform. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I have repeatedly said to you, I'm sure, I do not disbelieve that you've had contract business issues with various managers, accountants and so on. | ||
| My argument is that when you do... Just me? | ||
| Or other me's? | ||
| I'm sure many other artists in the music business. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| You know why you're sure? | ||
| Because you don't care to do the research because it doesn't affect you. | ||
| No, it's because you said... Have you done any research? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah, let me explain to you. | ||
| I'm not doubting what you're saying. | ||
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You don't care. | |
| I do care. | ||
| You don't care about me. | ||
| You don't care about my people. | ||
| I care about me. | ||
| I care about my people. | ||
| So as for me to stand up, and God forbid, I step on someone's toes while I'm at it. | ||
| It's not someone's toes. | ||
| You stepped on... That's so... Dude. | ||
| He's our guy, man. | ||
| He just... | ||
| I mean he says it in such and and it's he doesn't even say it in an extremely technical way but he's so articulate at the same time saying kind of what I said earlier which is One, hung up on regret, remorse, the hurt you caused, the hurt feelings. | ||
| Here we are, we're like 30 minutes, 30 minutes stuck on, admit it, you hurt their feelings, okay, so you regret it, you regret it, right? | ||
| It's like a struggle session. | ||
| And Ye kind of gave him what he wanted, he reflected on it. | ||
| During this interview, just over the past 15 or 20 minutes, he said, well, it was divisive and he said it was, um, It was maybe lack the sophistication of somebody that wants to be a leader. | ||
| He goes, so maybe I wouldn't have said it that way, and blah blah blah. | ||
| And Pierce is hung up on, but you hurt people's feelings, you hurt people's feelings, and all this. | ||
| And yeah, he's right. | ||
| That is a very white thing. | ||
| That is a very white Karen thing. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And also, He's not interested in any other dimension of the conversation, to say, you know, what did he mean by Jewish businessmen? | ||
| We're not even, that part of the conversation, like I said, is just being dismissed. | ||
| Not interested in that. | ||
| Not interested in it, and didn't research it, like Yeh said, didn't look into it, because it doesn't concern him. | ||
| And it's true. | ||
| Do you think Piers cares about Ye or do you think he cares about enforcing some kind of, again, an agenda or a particular attitude? | ||
| And when Ye said, I'm here to fight for my people. | ||
| I care about me. | ||
| I care about my people. | ||
| I don't care about stepping on toes. | ||
| That's Trump. | ||
| That's Ye. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| That's anybody over the past six years that's been called a certain name or something for trying to tell the truth. | ||
| It's not about hate, it's not about malice, it's not about trying to go out there and make people feel bad. | ||
| It's about telling the truth in an environment which we're all aware of with these social pressures. | ||
| And if it's not phrased in a perfectly sensitive way, then people get hung up on the remorse. | ||
| Uninterested in the meaning. | ||
| Uninterested in the meaning behind the message. | ||
| So, very well said. | ||
| We love Ye. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| ...on the entire Jewish people's toes, with a very deeply inflammatory tweet, which I think you've now accepted you shouldn't have phrased that way. | ||
| It's taken a bit of time to get there, but I think you've accepted that, right? | ||
| Have you accepted that you've put no effort into understanding how I got there? | ||
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I don't think I don't think honestly 10 years from now. | |
| Honestly, I don't think there is any. | ||
| Apologize to me about this interview. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| You're going to apologize to me about this interview within the next 10 years. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| Mark my words. | ||
| I don't doubt you have. | ||
| It's very one sided. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's very, it's very white sided. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very like. | ||
| It's not white sided. | ||
| I'm not doubting you've had business issues. | ||
| I'm saying the way to respond to that is not to go public to millions of people and say you're going DEF CON 3 on Jewish people. | ||
| Millions of people have had DEF CON 3 on their contracts. | ||
| You didn't say that. | ||
| Millions of people. | ||
| Well, I opened it up. | ||
| Now, I didn't, but now I'm saying it now. | ||
| Okay, so now what I think you should say, I think you should say to the Jewish people, I'm sorry for the offensive language I used in that tweet. | ||
| I wouldn't do that again. | ||
| This is what I really meant. | ||
| I think people would respect you if you said that. | ||
| I don't know why you can't just say that. | ||
| You know what I'll say it? | ||
| When I sit down with the people who write out the contracts for the NBA and for the NFL and for professional music and for acting contracts, we need to go to the top lawyers, the top execs, the owners of the stadiums, the owners of the football teams, and the owners of the record labels, and we're going to put them all in one room, and we're going to read every Let's go top 10 in each one of these categories, right? | ||
| Let's read Michael B. Jordan's contract. | ||
| Okay, but why would any of that? | ||
| Okay, but why would any of that? | ||
| Why would any of that? | ||
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Bro! | |
| Hey, bro! | ||
| Hey, hey, bro! | ||
| I ain't finished! | ||
| I ain't finished my sentence. | ||
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I didn't finish my brilliant idea. | |
| Nothing you're saying has anything to do with... Hey, boy! | ||
| Hey, boy! | ||
| Hey, boy! | ||
| Don't call me boy! | ||
| Don't finish what I told you. | ||
| Don't treat me like a boy then. | ||
| I'm gonna finish my sentence and my idea. | ||
| Nothing you're saying has got anything to do with the tweet. | ||
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You're not, okay? | |
| Cool. | ||
| Bro, I was in the middle of a sentence, boy. | ||
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Okay, so I thought you were going to laugh. | |
| So awesome, dude. | ||
| I like how Pierce gets mad. | ||
| The media's not used to being treated like that. | ||
| The media's... Look at this fucking face. | ||
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Right? | |
| Look at the seethe. | ||
| That's a seething face. | ||
| He's trying to hold it in. | ||
| He's trying to hold it in. | ||
| Fuck the media. | ||
| Because this is how they act. | ||
| They do that. | ||
| They bully you. | ||
| They push you around. | ||
| They're insincere. | ||
| They lie to your face. | ||
| And then they treat you like a bitch. | ||
| And if you give it back, they get all offended. | ||
| What about civility? | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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He goes, Ayo! | |
| Ayo! | ||
| I ain't finished! | ||
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That's awesome. | |
| Allow me to finish my sentence? | ||
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Yes. | |
| If you then answer my question. | ||
| Okay, so I'm going to tell people when I would apologize for the tweet. | ||
| This is what has to happen first. | ||
| I need all of the top executives in Hollywood. | ||
| I need the top executives at the NBA and at the NFL. | ||
| We'll do those two sports specifically. | ||
| And I want the top executives in music dealing with publishing, dealing with like Spotify and Apple Music and Universal Music and all the top execs. | ||
| Let's do like five top execs there. | ||
| And I want to look at the top 10 Earners in each one of those fields contracts openly. | ||
| We want to compare and contrast the contracts and then once we open that conversation and we need to do it on a platform live with lawyers asking questions and we'll and we'll have the top lawyers like a Johnny Cochran Robert Kardashian level legal team, you know looking at all of these contracts together after that moment happens, then I I will say I'm sorry. | ||
| Okay, if that's your position. | ||
| Interview adjourned. | ||
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Love you. | |
| Okay, that's the end of the interview. | ||
| I mean, I just get the feeling from you. | ||
|
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So what happened? | |
| What is this now? | ||
| Did he come back? | ||
| I guess he came back? | ||
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That's funny. | |
| ...character. | ||
| Brilliant in many ways. | ||
| Fascinating, like I say. | ||
| Compelling. | ||
| You have a huge appeal to millions of people around the world. | ||
| It just seems to me that occasionally your mouth gets you into trouble and that perhaps on reflection sometimes you look back and wish you hadn't said things. | ||
| Is that accurate? | ||
| That's what Paul Gosar said about me, isn't that right? | ||
| That's what Paul Gosar said about me, which was kind of not a nice thing to say. | ||
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Didn't he say that? | |
| He's got a... He's got a problem with his mouth. | ||
| Didn't Paul Gosar say that about me? | ||
| The representative? | ||
| You can't even find it. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Nick's got a problem with his mouth. | ||
| Said Paul Gosar. | ||
| The young people are being misled. | ||
| We should try to mentor. | ||
| You're not gonna mentor me. | ||
| I've given up on dealing with him. | ||
| He's got a problem with his mouth. | ||
| Yeah, that was offensive. | ||
| I was very insulted by that remark. | ||
| But it's just kind of funny to hear it from peers and then hear it from Paul in the same way. | ||
| Kind of funny. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Because... | ||
| The things I say are on behalf of God. | ||
| Like, it's not always Godly, because I'm a man, but God is definitely using me. | ||
| You're Catholic faith? | ||
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What's your background? | |
| I am Catholic, yeah. | ||
| Well, we're working for God here, and it's just like with black people now, with entertainment, we're coming into wealth, but all the other You know, black people with anywhere near my amount of wealth. | ||
| Would never cross the lines of, you know, taboos inside of the media that I would, that actually we used to in rap. | ||
| All these words, we used to say these, so it's all these like words that are being removed from our vocabulary, words that evoke emotion. | ||
| Don't you feel like the salt is being taken out of our food? | ||
| You know, look at Dune. | ||
| The people who control the salt controlled all the money. | ||
| And people are trying to control the salt and it's salt in our language. | ||
| That's why I'm I will not apologize for having a bit of salt in my words. | ||
| I will say hey, this can be improved on but it's like hey, look, I'm an update you're looking at. | ||
| The God's iPhone 100. | ||
| We are God's iPhone, right? | ||
| If you think about it, we're his favorite creation. | ||
| We were made in his image and we need updates and society capitalism media and thought police have been stopping us from our updates. | ||
| We have to have a thought and then we have to Actualize it. | ||
| I like the word actualize better than execute, because execute's a negative word. | ||
| We discussed this. | ||
| We have to actualize. | ||
| There's so many, think about, you know, for a homosexual kid, age 12 at school, not wanting to say out loud how he felt or feeling like if he said how he felt, he would get bullied. | ||
| Or what if he said how he felt and then somebody said, you said the way you felt. | ||
| And what your experience was in the wrong way. | ||
| Now, you need to apologize. | ||
| We're fine that you felt that way, but you need to apologize for the way you said it. | ||
| But just having the courage to do it in the first place would be, you know, that's the thing that needs to be given credit. | ||
| Like, yeah, you know what? | ||
| We'll say in these past two weeks, I made a big splash. | ||
| Because the first time you dive in the deep end, you're not going to look like an Olympic swimmer. | ||
| But we're going to have to learn how to swim. | ||
| And I've dived in the deep end. | ||
| OK. | ||
| I think I understand what you're saying. | ||
| Let me ask you about your family, Yeh. | ||
| Lots of speculation, of course, constantly. | ||
| If you understand what I'm saying, could you translate what I'm saying? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I want you to translate what I said. | ||
| And then let's move on to the next question. | ||
| OK. | ||
| Let me attempt to translate. | ||
| What did I mean by that? | ||
| I think what she meant was that you are not afraid to ruffle feathers. | ||
| You're not afraid to cause trouble where you feel it's justified. | ||
| You're not afraid to call people out who you think deserve to be called out. | ||
| But then occasionally, you've expressed yourself in a way that perhaps hasn't quite hit the right mark and that you are a work in progress, as indeed we all are, and that you could phrase things better, which would cause less offense to a wider number of people when, in fact, the target of your anger may be much more specific. | ||
| That would be my interpretation of what you've just said. | ||
| Do you think that we can move forward as a civilization without there being any offense? | ||
| Because one person's truth can be the other person's lie. | ||
| I think it entirely depends. | ||
| Honestly, part of me wants to say yes to that but I do think there is a line and we should all be mindful of the line and the line to me is I don't think any form of racism or perceived racism should ever be tolerated. | ||
| Perceived racism? | ||
| I don't think that is free speech. | ||
| Do you understand that perceived racism is anything that has to do with race? | ||
| Racism is already overly broad and subjective. | ||
| Perceived racism is literally infinite. | ||
| That means you just can't talk about people. | ||
| As long as there are people, and as long as they are in different races, they take the form of different races, then you cannot talk about human beings without crossing the line of perceived racism. | ||
| Barely racism, but perceived racism even more. | ||
| What a goof. | ||
| The question is, can you move society forward without offending people? | ||
| No! | ||
| You can't! | ||
| It is impossible. | ||
| That's a yes or no question, by the way. | ||
| How could you move society forward without offending people? | ||
| And then he says, well, no, but there's a line somewhere, and the line is, I would draw the line of racism. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What is perceived racism? | ||
| Literally anything could be perceived as racism. | ||
| How can you talk about slavery without being perceived as a racist on either end? | ||
| We have to talk about it. | ||
| We have to talk about the dynamics between groups. | ||
| We have to talk about the history of the groups. | ||
| How can you talk about the state of things, which is the state of peoples, You know, you can't then make any value statements at all about the group behavior or disparities. | ||
| Even if you were to say, like, black people are underperforming, that could be perceived as racist. | ||
| Can we not say that? | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| But that is ultimately what these therapeutic liberals believe, is that we can move society forward without hurting anyone's feelings. | ||
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Ever. | |
| It's just hate speech. | ||
| And I think one of the problems with what you said about the Jewish people was the more generic way that you phrased that sentence. | ||
| People didn't understand you were talking about specific business people you'd have a problem with. | ||
| They thought you genuinely meant you were going DEFCON 3 on all Jewish people. | ||
| No we didn't. | ||
| And they took that to be a blatant form of anti-Semitism. | ||
| I think you've explained in this interview that was not your intention at all, which is good. | ||
| But I think if you're asking me to interpret what you've just said yourself, that would be my interpretation. | ||
| That, you know, you're work in progress. | ||
| And sometimes you say stuff. | ||
| I didn't just explain. | ||
| It doesn't quite get over what you're really meaning. | ||
| But what I really mean is I don't want it to be settled. | ||
| I don't want, I don't want, I don't want to be forgiven by Jewish people until we get to what the problem really is. | ||
| I don't want, you know, like Elon, he got on Twitter, he said, I talked to Ye, he took it to heart. | ||
| And I liked my boy standing up for me, but I was like, but the fight isn't done though. | ||
| Everybody, white media, left media, they just want to squash the fight. | ||
| They want to keep the pain of George Floyd going, right, but they don't want the pain of our representatives. | ||
| What did Elon Musk say to you about the tweet out of interest? | ||
| It's vague to me right now. | ||
| I don't want to misquote him. | ||
| What was the general point of what you're saying? | ||
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It's vague to me. | |
| It's truly vague to me. | ||
| You know, I'm an honest person. | ||
| I'll tell you what it was. | ||
| What I keep on saying, it's just always about this tweet. | ||
| It's so much more. | ||
| If you look back at this interview and it's like a direction arrow, it's more in the direction of fixing the statement than fixing the problem. | ||
| And that's my problem. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But I would say to that, I think they're two different things. | ||
| And you can fix both, actually. | ||
| And I accept that part of what you were trying to do and the point you were trying to Okay. | ||
| He says, well we could do both. | ||
| Okay, but it's one hour of you're pushing your agenda. | ||
| They always do this. | ||
| They always just fucking lie. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| I hate the journalists and these minders and handlers. | ||
| They always do this weasel stuff where, because that is like such an eloquent way to say it, And he's right. | ||
| Rather than get to the bottom of it, rather than, let's talk about it, let's just cards on the table, what did you mean by it, what do you mean Jewish businessman, what's in the contracts, what oppression are you talking about, etc, etc. | ||
| Let's talk about it. | ||
| It's hung up on, are you sorry, are you sorry, are you sorry, the tweet, the tweet, what you said, this is what people thought about what you said. | ||
| And then Ye calls him out and, you know, so he's meta, you know, he's in it, commenting on the interview in the interview. | ||
| And Pierce goes, well, we could talk about both. | ||
| Are you really interested in both? | ||
| Or are you clearly just interested in one aspect of it? | ||
| But that's what they always do. | ||
| Hollow words, insincere. | ||
| That's why I hate them. | ||
| It's not because they disagree. | ||
| I don't hate people that disagree with me. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| The people that I hate are not the people that disagree with me. | ||
| They're not the people that think that George Floyd died because of the cop. | ||
| They're not the people that think Jews aren't really in power. | ||
| It's the people that are so insincere and refuse to even entertain and make an effort at properly understanding what we're saying. | ||
| Because they don't care about us. | ||
| and they don't care about what we have to say. | ||
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That's the worst part. - Okay. | |
| And that's Pierce this entire time. | ||
| Like, I'm gonna be your friend, I'm giving you a platform. | ||
| We can talk about that. | ||
| But first, shut the fuck up and apologize, bitch. | ||
| And I'll interrupt you and, you know. | ||
| We can talk about both. | ||
| Well, are you really interested in both or are you just saying that to move the conversation along to get back on the offensive? | ||
| That's all that that is. | ||
| When he says we can talk about both, he doesn't mean that. | ||
| He doesn't mean that. | ||
| There's no intention for him to follow up on that. | ||
| He is saying that in that moment to defuse and placate what Ye is saying. | ||
| Move the conversation along so that he can regain his position and continue the offensive. | ||
| Continue drilling him. | ||
| That's what they always do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, we could talk about both. | ||
| Anyway, apologize. | ||
| Anyway, back to the statement. | ||
| And that's why you have to be an asshole. | ||
| That's why you have to be disagreeable. | ||
| Like when Ye calls him boy and makes it awkward and interrupts him and throws him off his balance. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| You kind of have to be... You have to be disagreeable. | ||
| Because even though Piers is being polite, what he's doing is very hostile. | ||
| Even though Piers is being civil and polite, he is hostile. | ||
| And he is treating Ye like an adversary. | ||
| It's adversarial. | ||
| And this is how they prey on good-hearted people like Ye or Trump or whoever, Alex Jones, Tucker, me. | ||
| They play on your agreeableness. | ||
| They play on your good faith that you look at the interviewer and say, Hey, how are you doing? | ||
| Yeah, well, this is what I meant by it. | ||
| And you know, I just want to be understood. | ||
| And that's they prey on your agreeableness. | ||
| That's why you can't act like these people are your friends. | ||
| You gotta treat them like they're enemies, because they are. | ||
| That's how they're treating you. | ||
| They're putting on a charm offensive. | ||
| They're waging a war on you, and part of the tactic is to be charming. | ||
| Part of the tactic is to charm you, to placate you. | ||
| And so that's why you need to put your walls up and realize it's meant to disarm. | ||
| That's why you have to put your walls up and realize you're in a hostile, you're in a threat environment. | ||
| So... I completely understand it because you've explained it in more detail. | ||
| On Elon Musk, there is a suggestion that when he gets control of Twitter, which seems likely now, that he will bring you back, he'll bring Donald Trump back. | ||
| Do you think that would be right? | ||
| It'll be lit. | ||
| Do you think it's wrong that you and Trump have been banned from these platforms? | ||
| Actually I was talking to Trump a couple days ago and he was like, I'm not gonna do his voice right, but he was saying You know, I had 277 million followers and the next day I had nothing. | ||
| And that related to, you know, Mark Zuckerberg meta. | ||
| You know, Mark Zuckerberg thinks he is the government. | ||
| These tech companies feel they're more powerful. | ||
| than the U.S. government to the point of actually kicking the actual president of the United States off of an American social media platform. | ||
| This is the world we live in. | ||
| And I would say, I agree with you and I'll tell you why. | ||
| I think it's completely inconsistent that companies like Facebook and Twitter allow people like the Ayatollah of Iran, for example, to remain on the platform, or Taliban people to be on the platform, but they don't allow an American president. | ||
| That seems to me completely ludicrous. | ||
| Is that the issue at hand? | ||
| Is the inconsistency? | ||
| Think about what he's saying. | ||
| The problem is the inconsistency that some leaders are allowed, but not others. | ||
| So if Twitter banned the Ayatollah and the Taliban, then it would be okay? | ||
| Or is the problem about the relative influence of private enterprise in America over the public, over the government? | ||
| And I'm going to say I'm going to simp a little bit for the government. | ||
| The government as an institution should be supreme because the government represents or should represent the public, particularly in America. | ||
| Private interest is private or corporate, it's individuals. | ||
| The government is representative, in theory, And should be, and should be made to align with this. | ||
| The government is representative of all, of the public, of the sovereign people, the nation of America. | ||
| The government should be supreme. | ||
| Not to say the government should dominate private enterprise, but it should be able to. | ||
| The government should be supreme over private enterprise. | ||
| The government should be supreme over Corporate and private matters, at least in terms of its jurisdiction. | ||
| Not to say that it should wield that all the time or in a domineering or heavy-handed way, but that's what Ye is talking about, is how insane is it that the tech company is more powerful than the elected president, than the executive, the chief is how insane is it that the tech company is more powerful than the elected president, than | ||
| Why would it be that one corporation, one private corporate entity, would outmatch the elected government, the head of government, the head of state, of the Republican constitutional federal national government? | ||
| That's what's wrong here. | ||
| And Piers jumps in and says, I agree. | ||
| They're totally hypocritical. | ||
| That's not the issue at hand. | ||
| Piers jumps in, I agree. | ||
| They're being hypocritical. | ||
| That's not the problem. | ||
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So anyway. | |
| Bye. | ||
| Yes, and this is part of the 100-year plan that they have books on about, you know, China's takeover of America after losing the Industrial Revolution. | ||
| Now, let's talk about business people. | ||
| We won't refer to their race. | ||
| And by the way, I'll tell you, as a Jew person, a person that has a lot of Jewish friends, it's not a race, it's a people. | ||
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Right. | |
| And every Jewish homeboy I know is going to be like, yo, yeah, that's right. | ||
| But it's hard to attract, it's hard to influence patriotism on capitalists. | ||
| And it's a responsibility for us as Americans to retake our power in media, To retake our power in our schools, to retake our power in our farms, to retake our power in our medicine, in our hospitals, to revitalize the country. | ||
| Because America invented rock and roll at the end of the day. | ||
| We have the inventions. | ||
| America created Apple. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, we created the platforms that the world Uh, that the world runs on now, and we've allowed the business people in these companies to sell us, and whatever the term is, sell them in a handbag, whatever it is, for cheap. | ||
| And Americans are God-fearing, for the most part, God-fearing Christian people, and we're not cheap, and we can't be sold for cheap, and we're here to stand up And say, you gotta honour who we are, our families. | ||
| You gotta honour our God, Jesus Christ. | ||
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Let's go! | |
| Next subject, next subject. | ||
| Can I ask you something? | ||
| Let me ask you something else. | ||
| I want to ask you about your family. | ||
| Because you mentioned families there. | ||
| A lot of stuff has been written about you and your family. | ||
| A lot of it fuelled by you, by Kim, by others. | ||
| Where are things now with your family? | ||
| What is your relationship like with Kim, with your kids? | ||
| Uh uh Kim has Zionist media handlers surrounding her all in and out her Hulu TV show all in and out her her family all in and out the house that I created for my family but God is alive | ||
| The devil is a defeated foe and Kim is a Christian woman and she's not here just to have content up on adult channels. | ||
| She's not here just to have that last interview magazine cover. | ||
| If you look at the two interview magazine covers, look at the one when I was there and look at the one when I'm not there and that's the reason why this Tuskegee experiment of such that's happened to the black community Where they took the fathers out of the home and the leaders out of the community and have torn apart the community. | ||
| Now they've seen that's worked and they're doing that to America. | ||
| They're attempting, they're trying. | ||
| I mean that interview, the interview magazine cover you're talking about I think is the one where she was basically semi-naked in front of the American flag and I thought that was pretty distasteful actually. | ||
| It was about the American dream and I thought well if that's the American dream we're all screwed. | ||
| I mean in America. | ||
| And I agree with that. | ||
| And I didn't feel the platform to voice my opinion because I want to... It's always like, hey, this is your kid's mother. | ||
| But it's time where the leader's like, I'm still the priest of that home, Chris. | ||
| I'm still the priest of that home. | ||
| They want to make it this matriarch society, all that. | ||
| But I am the priest of this home and God is alive. | ||
| I am the living Robert Kardashian. | ||
| And I'm going to stand up for what God would want as a Christian. | ||
| And then people say as a Christian, Oh, you're not supposed to curse. | ||
| You're not supposed to have righteous indignation. | ||
| But I do. | ||
| You know, Christians had swords also. | ||
| Christians got guns. | ||
| I tell you that. | ||
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You know, so I'm going to stand up for what I believe in. | |
| There have been reports, yeah, that you and Kim don't really talk at the moment. | ||
| She's distancing herself from me because of the stuff you've been saying was getting controversy. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I mean, John Legend is distancing himself from me and buying more Christmas sweaters in the middle of spring also. | ||
| So I'm not saying that, you know, they're making the right decisions. | ||
| She said, She's being influenced, you know, but I guarantee you what's not finna happen, we not finna see her in one of them John Legend Christmas sweaters no time soon. | ||
| But do you talk to her? | ||
| Are you still in touch with her? | ||
| Wait a second, don't you think it's like, don't you think it's like funny to like make a joke out of stuff sometimes? | ||
| Don't you think like God has a sense of humor? | ||
| Of course! | ||
| But watch this, God, God, when I got married I bought this house, I like, you know what I'm saying, I did this tour and spent all the money I had on this house to like surprise Kim and give her this house that she wanted, that Lisa Marie Presley used to own. | ||
| And then I got the house, and then I put all this money into renovation, and then there goes the neighborhood. | ||
| Drake moves down the street five blocks, and that's when I knew God was funny. | ||
| But watch, this is where God is even funnier. | ||
| Here goes like Louis C.K. | ||
| Part 2 level, because Louis C.K. | ||
| is the funniest man alive. | ||
| Uncancel him now, right? | ||
| So, the... And he was funnier before he's canceled, because all he would do is type of jokes that you'd get canceled on, right? | ||
| So, uh... Uh, so, um, I got an office in, you know, outside of Crenshaw, like, in an opportunity zone. | ||
| And this office, 57,000-square-foot office, is the one that Tucker Carlson came to visit me at. | ||
| And I look out the window, and whose office is being built? | ||
| A brand-new one. | ||
| The Skims office! | ||
| It's like, who's writing this stuff? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, God is funny. | ||
| So that's the thing. | ||
| We always got to be like, we got to be funny. | ||
| We got to have a sense of humor, like, you know. | ||
| But yeah, let me ask you, let me ask you. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| But are you, are you sad that you're getting divorced? | ||
| or so you said the relationship came to an end? | ||
| That happened two years ago. | ||
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We got divorced two years ago. | |
| Are you sad that you're no longer together? | ||
| That you're divorced? | ||
| We'll always be together. | ||
| She dresses exactly like me. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, my kids are me. | ||
| You know, there's no person that you'll ever get with that will influence her more than God and then her priest on Earth, which is me. | ||
| You know, whether it's the Skims clothing line, the designers, the architects, all those people. | ||
| You got the Clintons, the left, utilizing what we built together to try to use her as an influence for the Black culture and the word culture in general for the next elections. | ||
| They need those 300 million followers from Kylie and Kim on their side going into their election as they push trauma culture to the Black people again, as they claim anything, any of my questions of business dealings to be anti-Semitic comments, | ||
| And push, you know, Kim to, you know, as a billionaire mother of a lawyer and a mother of four Jew black children to do covers like interview. | ||
| And that's what happens when they take the dads out the home. | ||
| And that's what they've been doing in the hood. | ||
| They take the fathers and the leaders out of the homes. | ||
| And if we keep on allowing this to happen and we don't have some level of a decency clause inside of our media on what everyone sees. | ||
| Like when I was young and I would go to the video store, if I wanted to go into the adult section, it was a curtain. | ||
| It was a person sitting there watching, making sure that kids didn't go in. | ||
| If the kids went into that section, there was a video camera and they would have you be escorted out of that section. | ||
| Now that section is forced through tick tock. | ||
| That section is subverted and kind of mixed with the drink inside of. | ||
| Music directed at children, inside a content through Disney, on Hulu, which is Disney also, and in so many branded commercials to confuse children and to sexualize our children way too early before they can even make their own decisions about their life. | ||
| You make some very interesting points again. | ||
| Just to clarify one thing though, you are actually divorced, are you? | ||
| Because my understanding was that you weren't actually divorced yet. | ||
| Do you see again how he just refuses to let the conversation go in a place that he doesn't want it to go? | ||
| That's what it means when you're pushing an agenda. | ||
| You know, Ye's talking for 20 minutes about all these different things and it's, uh, were you sad when you got divorced? | ||
| You are divorced, right? | ||
| So, what is that, man? | ||
| That's just straight up... That's straight up pushing an agenda. | ||
| You know, I ask God the same question some mornings. | ||
| Am I divorced, God? | ||
| Am I divorced? | ||
| Because I may be divorced on paper, but I'm not divorced of the idea of being the protector of not only this person who is so influential. | ||
| Imagine Kim Making all of her decisions that she does publicly. | ||
| You know, grown folks business is grown folks business. | ||
| Never know what could happen with a little sippy sippy or whatever. | ||
| But, you know, all the decisions that she makes publicly being based on an audience of one. | ||
| And Pierce, what audience do you think I'm saying that is? | ||
| Well, you. | ||
| No, not me. | ||
| For us, as Christians, right? | ||
| Who is our audience? | ||
| We have an audience of one. | ||
| Well, you mean God? | ||
| God. | ||
| So picture this world, envision this world. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| This is past my whole, this is past what I'm saying about having the heads of the football teams and the basketball teams and the music industry opening up their contracts the way I do, right? | ||
| Picture the most influential woman on the planet, which is Kim Kardashian, right? | ||
| And I got this one thing I want to definitely say in an interview. | ||
| Picture the most influential person on the planet, the most influential woman on the planet, performing in public only for that audience of one, for God. | ||
| Imagine the overwhelmingly positive effect that that will have on the planet and Mark these words, it will happen someday. | ||
| And I had this thing, I had this like, you know, of course I'm divorced and this is like a funny thing I thought. | ||
| Being that her name is no longer West, and my name is no longer Ye, if there was ever, I mean, sorry, being that her name is no longer West, and my name is now only Ye, if we were ever to be together again, what would our name be? | ||
| Kim Ye. | ||
| Would you like that? | ||
| Everything is up to God, and God has proven to me many times that it's not about what I want or what I would like, it's just up to Him on what He sees fit. it's just up to Him on what He sees fit. | ||
| You know, David had to tend to the sheep. | ||
| - But do you still love Kim? | ||
| - Sorry, not with an S. | ||
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- Do you still love Kim? - I absolutely love her. | |
| I love her for life. | ||
| And I will protect, oddly enough, I'll actually protect her. | ||
| Because when I call out things that I feel are wrong, you know what I'm saying, when I make products, like, say the difference between me and Bernard Arnault, like say, watch, Elon Musk, every product, the reason why Elon Musk is like a Steve Jobs is, If he makes a flamethrower, he would use that flamethrower. | ||
| If he makes a Cybertruck, he would use that Cybertruck. | ||
| Me, if I make some 3D printed boots, you know, I'm gonna have the 3D printed boots on. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I love those. | ||
| And wear them every day. | ||
| Can I get a pair of those? | ||
| Absolutely, sir. | ||
| Tucker liked them also. | ||
| These boots are a hit. | ||
| Love those. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They look fantastic. | ||
| Would you like to one day... Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| Do you think, given that you've got all these kids together, Would you like one day to get back with Kim, do you think? | ||
| Do you feel like you've gone through a very tumultuous period, but that actually the love underneath it all, between two people, remains? | ||
| and would you like to get back together? | ||
| Those thirst traps still be fire. | ||
| Is that a yes? | ||
| Do you understand what I said? | ||
| Do you understand that language right there? | ||
| I think so! | ||
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I think so! | |
| You better explain it to me! | ||
| What do you think those thirst traps still be fire mean? | ||
| Can you explain that to me? | ||
| Well, with my rather creative British mind... Explain what those thirst traps still be fire... I would imagine it means... With your creative, brilliant British mind... I would imagine it means you still fancy your ex-wife. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| You know, I would prefer to not be put on this. | ||
| I would never I would prefer to not be put. | ||
| On the spot. | ||
| On these kind of questions, what I could say is. | ||
| God is alive, and he placed his people. | ||
| He placed David in to tend to—God had David tend to the sheep, knowing that one day he would prepare him to fight Goliath. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So I believe that that day of me fighting Goliath has been this past two weeks. | ||
| The media is Goliath and there would be no chance of having a civil civilization or civil Uh, democracy in America without me challenging the media two years out from the election. | ||
| Because this thing that I'm challenging may be setting myself up to one day be able to be president, or it's, uh, maybe for the other president. | ||
| But regardless, we have to have some decency in America as the thought leaders and the content that we put out. | ||
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And that's how God is using you now. | |
| You keep talking about the media as if somehow it's the media that's created all this furore in the last two weeks. | ||
| But you have said other things which, in my opinion, the media couldn't ignore. | ||
| You know, you suggested in your interview with Tucker Carlson that Gap, for example, the clothing wear company, had prior knowledge of the Ivalde shooting, which is obviously completely insane. | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| And then why would you be surprised if the media then react to it? | ||
| They're bound to. | ||
| What I'm saying is that was worded. | ||
| That might have been worded in a way that the media could take in the wrong way. | ||
| But I thought it was really interesting the amount of people at Gap. | ||
| We had a we had a release that was happening and the amount of people at Gap that were rallying around this as a media moment. | ||
| If they didn't know About that, where there's theories. | ||
| You can't say that the theories about 9-11 are completely insane. | ||
| No, that's just the person I am. | ||
| I'm that kind of person. | ||
| Well, look, you're perfectly entitled to have theories. | ||
| I think most of them are completely insane. | ||
| But on this specific one, Ye, on Ivalde, you even suggested that Matthew McConaughey, you even suggested that Matthew McConaughey may have, it was all a bit weird that he was speaking so early about it, when in fact he came from Ivalde and spoke very passionately after this atrocity. | ||
| So, I think people who read these comments are like, what are you talking about? | ||
| No, okay, so I'm not... What I'm saying is... | ||
| I definitely feel there was a major media push around that to create trauma and fear culture because the amount of people, and this is not to be in any way, I care about people who have passed away and have lost loved ones. | ||
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20 kids were shot dead in a classroom. | |
| 20 children were shot dead. | ||
| No one in the media is putting any sort of trauma into that. | ||
| That is the trauma. | ||
| Well, the 20 kids are killed in school in one mass shooting. | ||
| putting any sort of trauma into that. | ||
| That is the trauma. | ||
| Okay, Pierce, Pierce, how many, how often does that happen in my hometown? | ||
| Well, the 20 kids are killed in school in one mass shooting. | ||
| As far as I'm aware, it's never happened in your hometown. | ||
| Has it? | ||
| Every, yeah, it does. | ||
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At least 14 kids are killed in Chicago. | |
| I didn't finish, I didn't finish. | ||
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Let's not do this again. | |
| At least 14 kids are killed in Chicago every week and there's no media push around it. | ||
| And that's my issue. | ||
| When I was at Gap, there was no media push around the killings. | ||
| In Chicago. | ||
| And let me explain something. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| My youngest son has recently been at the University of Chicago for a year. | ||
| And there were two students shot in that time. | ||
| I completely agree that there is never enough attention given to all the slaughter from gun violence in Chicago. | ||
| Completely agree with you. | ||
| What I can't agree with is any suggestion by anyone at GAP or Matthew McConaughey or anybody else had any prior knowledge of what happened at Ivaldo. | ||
| Of course they didn't. | ||
| What I'm saying is, I'm not saying they did, but with the amount of attention that went... Understand, I was jealous, once again. | ||
| You feel me? | ||
| I'm jealous that so much attention went in this direction, but doesn't go into the direction of Chicago when the same thing and the same amount of people... That's what you should say. | ||
| I'm not finished. | ||
| Yeah, but it comes down to the way you phrase yourself. | ||
| Bro, hey, hey, I just said it! | ||
| Like I just said, you're not always going to say the things the right way, but at least I have the bravery to open the conversation. | ||
| Your first sentence isn't your last sentence. | ||
| My first rap that I told wasn't my last rap that I told. | ||
| And now that's the whole point. | ||
| It's said. | ||
| Once it's said, accept that it was said. | ||
| I am the iPhone 20, right? | ||
| I'm growing. | ||
| I'm a hybrid. | ||
| I'm updating. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'm constantly updating and that's what we're supposed to do. | ||
| You can't drag me back because that's, you enjoy that, right? | ||
| When you bring it up, I'm saying, hey, this is what I'm saying. | ||
| I felt, you know, think about this. | ||
| Have you ever heard the term premeditated murder? - Yes. - I feel, I feel like the George Floyd was a premeditated murder. | ||
| That's my feeling based off of, and we never got to that in the beginning, but that's my feeling based off of the information I saw in the documentary. | ||
| I think it was a premeditated murder. | ||
| I agree, but not for the reason you think. | ||
| I think it was premeditated in the sense that that policeman didn't give a damn about George Floyd's life, stuck his knee on his neck for eight minutes and killed him. | ||
| So I know we don't agree about that. | ||
| I don't want to go back over that. | ||
| I want to ask you about something different. | ||
| I think the policeman was involved with it too, but not in the way that you think about it. | ||
| I think he was involved in a different way. | ||
| I think he was also part of the setup. | ||
| Look, we're not going to agree about that. | ||
| He's been moved! | ||
| He's been moved! | ||
| I need you to watch the documentary and we can talk offline and then talk online again. | ||
| Because what's not fair is for a white martyr like JFK To be analysed a hundred different ways, but then for a black martyr like George Floyd, for us to only accept the one way. | ||
| That's like us only accepting the one way for the black vote. | ||
| Like I said to you... We have the opportunity to look at it different ways. | ||
| Like I said to you, you are completely entitled to challenge anything, frankly. | ||
| And I'm equally entitled to come back to you and say what I think. | ||
| That's what a democracy is about. | ||
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Let me ask you before it's too late, I want to ask you one thing about your... No, no, I got... | |
| I don't want to keep going back to that same issue. | ||
| Look at the disparagement right there. | ||
| But look at the disparagement because I still had an idea. | ||
| I don't like the word point. | ||
| I had an idea that you didn't embrace right there. | ||
| The martyr JFK, we analyzed his death a hundred different ways, right? | ||
| But with George Floyd, he died that way and then it's white people telling super brilliant successful black people You, okay, you have the right, you're, it's literally like on some, Black Lives Matter, like, your life matters, like, oh, your idea matters, but then shut up, and we're not gonna go back to it. | ||
| No, we're gonna unfold it. | ||
| I need you to watch that documentary, and I want us to talk line by line. | ||
| I wanna do, because look, I think that we're a good conversation, and now within the next two years, we need to talk a lot of times, right? | ||
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I would love to do that. | |
| We need to have this kind of thing. | ||
| Honestly, I would honestly, I honestly. | ||
| But we should unpack Listen, let me say to you, I've wanted to interview you for years. | ||
| I genuinely mean it when I say I think you're one of the most brilliant, talented people that I've seen in the public sphere. | ||
| And you have a lot of fascinating ideas and you're incredibly creative and you're completely entitled to your views. | ||
| But I'm entitled to mine. | ||
| And I think we've had some really, really interesting exchanges, actually. | ||
| I want to just talk to you quickly before we finish about your kids and about you as a father. | ||
| What kind of Kids, do you want them to be? | ||
| What kind of values do you want to instill in your children? | ||
| I want my kids to finish their education. | ||
| I know that my album was called The College Dropout, but when I look at the way, you know, just like you said, your kids are in the University of Chicago. | ||
| We need the education. | ||
| That's another thing to be jealous about. | ||
| You know, the Muslims have the Koran, right? | ||
| And Jewish people also have their holy books, but They have the education. | ||
| And once we have the education and we have the strong black minds, we need to pull them together. | ||
| There hasn't been end-to-end black owned communities since black Wall Street or since the gentrification of Harlem. | ||
| Like I was talking, I have this tech company called STEM, right? | ||
| That had the most successful launch in tech history with 80,000 STEM players as far as the first launch, right? | ||
| We sold 80,000 sim players back in February and we went off the Apple platform and now we're coming with the next generation that has a projector in it and it's coming with 4,096 movies. | ||
| I did that because my Amiga computer had 4,096 colors when I was in seventh grade and also you can download films without having to use an Apple product. | ||
| So I called this guy and we're working on finishing up elements of the deal And he's using emotional bullying and like his shoulders are down. | ||
| You could tell on the call. | ||
| He says, well, because of your comments, we're not going to be able to hire people. | ||
| It's the people that we need. | ||
| And I said, well, well, how many people do we have working for us? | ||
| He said 60. | ||
| And we have 40 part time. | ||
| I said, well, how many Jewish people do we have? | ||
| He said, well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, you have some. | ||
| And I said, well, do we have black people working for you? | ||
| He said, yeah. | ||
| I said, how many? | ||
| He said two. | ||
| And I said, you're telling me we can't find 60 black engineers? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| And see, that's where that comment that got me into so much trouble forced me to look at myself as a black, as the richest black man since Manson Munson, right? | ||
| With multiple tech companies. | ||
| And where am I kicking the tires inside of my own company to ensure that I'm hiring my people? | ||
| Because Chinese people hire Chinese people and Jewish people hire Jewish people and Catholics hire Catholics, right? | ||
| But with blacks, we'll give our company to Bernard Arnault. | ||
| We'll give our company to Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| We'll give our company away. | ||
| And it would almost come off as anti-Semitic if I hadn't crossed that gun line so far to say, hey, I have to go and ensure that I'm hiring the brightest black minds to my black-owned tech company. | ||
| You know, Kamala is our never again. | ||
| We're never gonna just hand something over just because we like the way this person looks and we have the emotional connection because she was a Delta and my mom was a Delta. | ||
| She got 96% of the black female vote. | ||
| You would have thought Drake was running. | ||
| And we haven't seen her, really honestly, since. | ||
| And you know, I want to say something about the left. | ||
| The left, you guys got to sit with me. | ||
| Your current administration that these guys put up, they shit the pot on this one. | ||
| They should have got Bernie, but Bernie had too much of a conscience, and so you got a guy with no conscience. | ||
| Instead of getting Bernie Sanders, you guys got weakened at Bernie's. | ||
| And you know, That you don't like where we're at right now. | ||
| So we got to have a conversation going in. | ||
| I don't disagree with you about President Biden or Kamala Harris for that matter. | ||
| Let me ask you about someone we haven't mentioned Vladimir Putin and what he's been doing in Ukraine. | ||
| What is your view of that? | ||
| I do not believe in war. | ||
| And I believe that there is ways that America could have avoided this war. | ||
| But Biden has money. | ||
| Biden has reasons for us to be at war right now for selfish reasons. | ||
| And what I would like to do without giving you too much information, I would like to speak with my political advisors to give you the exact, exact information. | ||
| I'm not going to, hey, watch this one, Pierce. | ||
| I'm not going to shoot from the hip on this one, especially talking about war and things as sensitive as Ukraine and the Russian war. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We already got that, um, the R-E-T-A-R-D comment earlier that maybe we could work on that I feel like is going to be massively offensive and I really do... Alright, now that one I do apologize to people that I offended earlier in the interview on that comment. | ||
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Maybe we could look at scrubbing that if we, if we, if we deem... Well actually, actually I would say, I would say that It's an uncensored interview. | |
| You said something which you've now wished you hadn't said and you've apologized. | ||
| I actually think that says a lot about you, right? | ||
| That shows you've got that ability to be self-aware, to understand when you cross a line. | ||
| I think someone like you, with all your energy and creativity and your passion, you're going to say stuff. | ||
| the way that you talk constantly and in such an extraordinary manner, you're going to trip up. | ||
| You're going to say things the wrong way. | ||
| I don't think there's anything wrong in when you do that, doing what you just did and saying, I'm sorry, I crossed the line, I apologize. | ||
| It's actually quite empowering. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| You know what I think I'll go ahead and do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel that I've given the platform... That's like such a... That's like just training you. | ||
| That's just another form of manipulation and conditioning. | ||
| When you act in the way that people like you to act, then they give you praise like you're a fucking dog. | ||
| Actually, I think you're... Wow! | ||
| I'm so impressed with you! | ||
| Good job! | ||
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You know, the whole interview is a total asshole. | |
| And then he gets the apology he was finally looking for, and then it's, well, good job, little guy, with the patronizing... That's how they get you. | ||
| And I think by holding the idea of an apology hostage is not godlike. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I feel like we have to free... Yeah, you know, and I think that's the point that you've been making, and because we sat down and had this conversation, you know, I will say I'm sorry for the people that I hurt with the DEF CON, the confusion that I cause. | ||
| I feel like I cause hurt and confusion. | ||
| And I'm sorry for the families of the people that had nothing to do with the trauma that I had been through and that I use my platform where you say hurt people hurt people. | ||
| And I was hurt. | ||
| I was frustrated. | ||
| I was frustrated that Gap hadn't opened stores. | ||
| I was frustrated that I spent time with a gentleman who I love, love, love, him, his wife, his kids, David Simon, and to open stores. | ||
| And then he called Bob Martin at Gap and said, I'm not going to open the stores. | ||
| And I've just been frustrated. | ||
| I just want to open my widow stores. | ||
| And I want to say that it's wrong to hold an apology hostage. | ||
| And I got to let go of that and free, you know, free myself of the trauma and say, look, I'm just going to give it all up to God right now and say to those families that are hurt, you know, I really want to give you guys a big hug. | ||
| And I want to, uh, I say, I'm sorry for hurting you in my comments. | ||
| And I want to word it and not a president, not in like a political way, but in a presidential way, which means what I knew a president to be when I was growing up in a sincere way. | ||
| You know how people give those kind of, I want to give an apology and you're like, but did you, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, no, it has to be, I want to go to every person's grandmother, and grandfather and every person's son and daughter aunt and uncle and give them a hug and say you know what i've been hurt and i do want you to talk to your boys i do want you to talk let's go to the people that are in power the people who do own the black voice let's go | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| I want to give all the Jewish, all those people's families a hug and tell them, hey, talk to your fucking Jews that own the Black Voice. | ||
| And we're back. | ||
| And we're back. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| I want to apologize to their families, but seriously, the families need to talk to the Jews that run the media and tell them what's up. | ||
| Which a lot of Jewish business people do. | ||
| I want to be able to sit at the table with the contracts. | ||
| I want my people to sit at the table with the contracts. | ||
| I do want all of this, but I'm not going to hold my apology hostage until I get that. | ||
| I'm going to start by taking accountability for my actions and the lack of sophistication in my wording. | ||
| Like I said, I was sleepy and it was taken. | ||
| I was sleepy. | ||
| In a way that I didn't mean to be taken, it definitely calls some attention. | ||
| But I don't want the conversation to go away just because I came to you guys and said, you know, I understand how I hurt you and I'm sorry for the pain that I've caused and the confusion that I caused. | ||
| Now that is saying, right? | ||
| But I don't want the conversation to go away that we are still in a place where these contracts are still f***ed up. | ||
| My people are still getting screwed. | ||
| This has to be opened up. | ||
| And I'm not asking for a promise. | ||
| But it would be a beautiful world as I release the pain that I've caused, and the pain that I have in me, that grudge that I was holding, that you guys, some of you guys, one, two of you guys, step up and say, let's look at these contracts. | ||
| Let's make it not be a known fact that the music industry is treacherous. | ||
| Because some of my kids do music. | ||
| I don't want them to step into a treacherous place. | ||
| I want it to be better for them than it was for me. | ||
| So I want us to sit down and come together and really work on that. | ||
| Would that make sense to you, Pierce? | ||
| You know what, Ye? | ||
| If you'd simply said that in your tweet, I don't think there would have been any problem. | ||
| And I'm very, very pleased, actually, that we've got to a place where you felt able to say that. | ||
| And I think it was sincere. | ||
| But we still have a problem! | ||
| That's my point! | ||
| No, no, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But what you've now done, you've now explained the context of the problem. | ||
| And you also issued a sincere apology to people who were rightly offended by the way you phrased what you said. | ||
| So I think that's a good place to finish the interview. | ||
| And I'm very glad you got there. | ||
| Okay, but it's not finished. | ||
| The idea is not finished. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| That there's still a problem. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| No one's going to be in any doubt there's a problem. | ||
| And by the way, I'm sure there is. | ||
| I'm sure a lot of the contracts in the music business are rigged against people like artists like yourself. | ||
| I'm sure of it. | ||
| It's always been the case. | ||
| From Elvis onwards. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Would you, would you help me and my people? | ||
| Would you help me and my, my athletes? | ||
| I got so many athletes that go to my school, that are, like all the guys that are on Donda are headed to the NBA, right? | ||
| Could you help me? | ||
| Could you help us make these contracts better for our people by call, calling attention, by just allowing me on your platform, right? | ||
| And let's look at some of the things and point these things out. | ||
| Could, could we work together on that over the next couple of years? | ||
| Very happy to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very happy to do that. | ||
| I think we should talk more after. | ||
| It's taken a long time to get here. | ||
| I've thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. | ||
| It's been two hours. | ||
| It's been free rolling. | ||
| It's been occasionally challenging. | ||
| But we've got to a place where I think it's a good place. | ||
| And I've really enjoyed it. | ||
| So thank you very much indeed, Ye, for sparing me the time. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You know I'm going to feel like I lost my stone I was holding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I had to give it up to God. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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Yes. | |
| You know, you're going to be bragging at dinner tonight like, yo, I talked to Ye. | ||
| No one could do it. | ||
| No one could do it. | ||
| I did it. | ||
| And you know, I'm giving you this, and I'm gonna pray that you, as a fellow believer in Christ, will help me to expose all the wrong that's still currently happening to my people, specifically in the entertainment industry, because I'm an entertainer, just to start with. | ||
| I'm very happy to hold anyone to account who is behaving improperly, honestly. | ||
| And I'm absolutely certain that that entertainment business is riddled with people who try it on and exploit people. | ||
| And I would be very happy to help you to expose that. | ||
| But for now, I've got to leave it. | ||
| Yay. | ||
| We've had two hours. | ||
| It's been remarkable. | ||
| Thank you very much for your time. | ||
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Peace. | |
| All right. | ||
|
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Peace. | |
| I like how I kept calling him Chris even throughout. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| That's the yay Piers Morgan interview. | ||
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Yeah, that's fine. | |
| That was long. | ||
| He got what he wanted and then he cut the interview off. | ||
| And Piers Morgan's a scumbag. | ||
| It's a shame. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They reel you in with these tactics. | ||
| Oh, you apologized. | ||
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Good job. | |
| Think you got another one in there for me? | ||
| Okay, sorry for the other thing. | ||
| Wow, you did it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, interview over. | ||
| That was the interview. | ||
| It was one hour of demanding that he apologize, and then it was another hour of invasive questions about his family. | ||
| Until he got what he wanted. | ||
| That's a struggle. | ||
| It's literally a struggle session All right So yeah, I don't I would not count on Piers Morgan going out of his way to platform yay and Get those contracts opened But alright, let's take a look at our super chats How about this edit though? | ||
| I want to keep playing this You guys see this edit? | ||
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Oh, yeah. yeah. | |
| How many runners do you got? | ||
| All day, n***a. How long they keepin' with call? | ||
| All day, n***a. Take you to get this fly? | ||
| All day, n***a. Tell your P.O. | ||
| how high on your night? | ||
| All day, n***a. Nobody know I'm stakin' the shot? | ||
| All day, n***a. Stop, stop, stop, stop. | ||
| All day, nigga. | ||
| This shit, nigga. | ||
| Shopping for the winter and the shots made, nigga. | ||
| Also, I'm in the shit crate, nigga. | ||
| He ain't getting money, that's your bad taste, nigga. | ||
| But I just need to piece my best, nigga. | ||
| Just thought to be a kind that's just, nigga. | ||
| Told him I've been on tears since the 10th grade, nigga. | ||
| Got a middle finger longer than the kid, nigga. | ||
| I don't let them play with me. | ||
| I don't have a problem. | ||
| They better watch what they say to me. | ||
| You can still keep popping the day to day. | ||
| I still got a hundred with a small fade, nigga. | ||
| My skin's in your outfit, nigga. | ||
| You're a fake, nigga. | ||
| Ride around and send a shot, nigga. | ||
| If you ain't with us, you an our way, nigga. | ||
| You an actor, you should be on Broadway, nigga. | ||
| Introduce you to Broadway, nigga. | ||
| Your bitch got an album of Broadway, nigga. | ||
| Late for the class in the hallway, nigga. | ||
| You're the dropout at it as always, nigga. | ||
| always so epic yeah that's never gonna get old to me | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You think we could get him at AFFPAC? | ||
| That would be the dream. | ||
| Could you imagine if we could give him a platform at AFFPAC 4? | ||
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Not all day. | |
| Talk about all day. | ||
| Could you imagine Keynote Speaker at AFFPAC 4? | ||
| We gotta meme that into reality. | ||
| Yay at AFFPAC 4. | ||
| AFFPAC 5. | ||
| That would be nuts. | ||
| And it seems it seems not impossible anymore. | ||
| It seems like it would have been a possible a year ago now It seems totally real now. | ||
| It seems like absolutely possible So we got to make it happen. | ||
| But all right, let me take a look at our super chats. | ||
| Let's see what we got here. | ||
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I'll just play these real quick It's a good book. | |
| It's a good book, but not really for beginners. | ||
| I just borrowed Spengler's Decline of the West from the library. | ||
| What's your opinion on that book? | ||
| It's a good book. | ||
| It's a good book, but not really for beginners. | ||
| Because what Spengler tried to do with that book is create a new field of knowledge, a study of civilizations. | ||
| Because he's not a historian and he's not a philosopher. | ||
| He was trying to create a new discipline that was holistic and studied all aspects of a civilization. | ||
| And in Decline of the West, that's exactly what he does. | ||
| He describes some of the different civilizations that have existed in a way that other people don't write about. | ||
| And he talks about a lot of technical things about other disciplines that if you're not already educated to some extent, you're not going to get as much out of it. | ||
| So like, for example, he talks about architecture, and he talks about cathedrals, and he talks about fine art, he talks about Rembrandt, and he talks about Mozart, and he talks about calculus. | ||
| and Faust and you're not really gonna get everything out of it if you don't know what Faust is if you don't know Gerta if you don't know if you don't know what calculus is if you don't know what a flying buttress is so I would say that Spengler is definitely a little bit more advanced that's what I would say somebody spamming some do we even have mods in this frickin live chat or what | ||
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do not spam so yeah mods asleep anyway so I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner but it's a good it's an excellent book Dimitri sent $3 likes dr. Martens wants to shave his head likes utilitarian clothing is Nick becoming a skinhead WTF this is truly the best timeline Well, and he's the only one that even stands a chance because he's just mastered these sophist verbal tricks, you know. |
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