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April 21, 2020 - America First - Nicholas J. Fuentes

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Nick Fuentes on The Conservative Values Zoom Call (Part 2)

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nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate this.
		If you look at any research on what non-whites believe about the Constitution, the majority of non-whites do not believe that we should have the right to bear arms.
		The majority of non-whites believe that there should be hate speech legislation.
		The majority of non-whites believe that we should have an interpretation of the Constitution which is not an originalist interpretation.
		In other words, we should add things on or reinterpret it.
		Now, not obviously every single non-white person believes that, but the majority of them do.
		And the majority of whites believe the opposite.
		And so those kinds of attitudes shape the kind of country you live in.
		The agreement on having a bill of rights, the agreement on having freedom of speech, or the right to bear arms, or a constitution that is lasting and enduring and keeps its meaning through the generations, you know, that is like a meaningful difference.
		So yeah, sure, maybe people in California Like, uh, West Coast rap, and people in New York City like Wu-Tang Clan or Nas, you know, whatever.
		But they speak English, and they vote, and they believe in the... Broadly speaking, they believe in the Constitution and so on.
		Obviously, there's liberals, you know, in every racial group, but the big picture stuff is the core that must be maintained to have a cohesive and orderly and stable country.
unidentified		I do have a very important point.
		I want to bring up one point though.
		And that's about the American culture.
		The one American culture that... So just because those people generally don't always have the same viewpoints as white people, does that necessarily mean that they're wrong?
		I mean, I agree with what you're saying.
		Like, I agree with that they're wrong.
		Like, who's the...
		Maybe not specifically with those examples, because a lot of them are defined in the Constitution, but just because they have differing opinions, just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that they're wrong.
		I agree with the standpoints you're getting at, but I'm just wondering.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not necessarily a question of whether they're wrong.
		It's just a question of how we're going to have a population that will perpetuate the kind of country that we want to live in.
		You know, obviously there are all kinds of people that are, you know, white liberals are against the Second Amendment.
		White liberals are against free speech in some cases.
		But the question is, you know, if America is to remain America, we cannot bring in populations that are biased in favor of things that are against America.
		You know, the people that are coming from Asia and Latin America, why do you think it is that they are in favor of government?
unidentified		Do you think they're coming here just to vote?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, but they're going to vote, and they're tending to vote.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not that they're coming here just to vote.
unidentified		I want to ask you something.
		You said you brought up that stuff about how the non-whites generally are against the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and the original writing of the Constitution.
		What's your solution to that?
		Just deporting them all and just creating a white ethnostate?
		I mean, like, how are you going to, like, you can't just, like, change their culture.
		I mean, what they believe is what they believe.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is the problem.
		The problem is, you diagnose the problem, and because it makes people uncomfortable, they like to say, oh, well, so what?
		Genocide?
		Oh, so what?
		Ethnic cleansing?
		No.
		The point is to acknowledge the problem.
		We as conservatives, why are the alarm bells not going off?
		Why is it not sirens blaring for us as conservatives that Millions of people are pouring into the country that are voting against us.
		They're replacing us.
		They're taking over states that are our electoral strongholds.
		And if that continues to happen, Democrats will become an unstoppable force.
		It'll be a one party state and they'll crush everything we love.
		And people are saying, well, but so what are we supposed to do?
		Deport everybody?
		It's like, no, we don't have to deport everybody, but we have to start thinking about these things and beginning to come up with solution or an answer or strategy starts with acknowledging what's happening.
		So, you know, that's been my whole life.
		As I'm over here saying, isn't anybody worried about the fact that Texas is going blue?
		Isn't anybody worried about the fact that what's happening to Texas and Florida and Nevada is what happened in California?
		And like, we're never going to win again, and we're going to lose everything we love.
		And people have told me, well, you know, even if it is, it's racist to acknowledge it, or the solution must be necessarily bad, or X, Y, and Z.
		We as conservatives must grapple with these things and try to figure out how we're going to survive in this new America that we've created.
unidentified		One thing that stuck out to me was you said us.
		You keep saying us.
		I'm just kind of like wondering, who is us?
		Because you, when you refer to us, you refer to us as in like America, but as if we're like a Republican America, but not everybody in America is Republican.
		And while I am a conservative Republican, and I believe in a lot of the same values as you, I don't necessarily think that we should suppress the people who have opposing views.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about we, the traditional American nation.
		And here's the problem is, I think we've conflated maybe large disagreements with small disagreements.
		You know, America's obviously been a democracy and been liberal and pluralistic and so on.
		But what we all agreed on, even Republicans and Democrats a hundred years ago, is stuff that is now the subject of disagreement.
		You know, we're not talking about should we spend more money now in the government or less money.
		We're not talking about tax policy.
		I mean, in some cases we are, but what the Democrats are talking about is we want to have a country that's not white, not Christian, doesn't speak English.
		Like, they don't agree on the fundamentals.
		And so the question is, if we don't agree on the fundamentals, then why be a country?
		Why would we all stick together as a country if you want a way of life and a vision that is mutually exclusive and incompatible with the country that I want to live in?
		And so it's not so simple as, oh, well, we disagree and suppressing disagreement.
		We can have disagreements.
		But, I mean, they want drag queens reading stories to our children.
		They want our children to learn in schools about – No one is advocating.
unidentified		I don't think anyone's advocating for that.
		No one's advocating for us to start doing that on a wide scale.
		Who is this?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding?
unidentified		You also said Democrats are for illegal immigration or open borders.
unidentified		Not a single Democrat running is for that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong about that.
		You're completely wrong about that.
		Most of the Democratic nominees for president wanted to make illegal immigration not illegal.
		You can look it up.
		You can look at Chuy Garcia.
		He sponsored legislation in January.
		You're just wrong about that.
unidentified		He was for decriminalizing it, still keeping it illegal.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so he's gonna decriminalize.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that's a nice technicality there.
unidentified		Can I ask why you keep bringing up the point of being white so much?
		Can I ask that?
		Why are you bringing up the point of being white so much?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm actually not bringing it up.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's everyone else that's bringing it up.
unidentified		The word white has come out of your mouth more times than anyone else.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Because we're descriptively talking about populations.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What happens is it's white and non-white demographics.
unidentified		All right.
		Let me ask, let me ask this real quick.
		So you're talking about just going back to immigration.
		You know what I mean?
		Um, are you, obviously I get that you're not saying deport everybody, right?
		I get that.
		You're very adamant about that.
		So I understand that.
		Um, and I'm not for that either, but are you wanting to do something kind of almost similar towards the Chinese exclusion act almost back when we had that kind of for almost a lot of other countries or just kind of say, all right, look, we need to stop immigration real quick.
		Figure out what we gotta do and then reopen it?
		Is that what you're saying?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just no more immigration.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know, not directed at any particular group, but we just don't need any more immigrants for a variety of reasons.
unidentified		So, just period.
		Noted.
		Thank you.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		So Luke looks like so awkward on that page.
		I guess I'll real quick.
		So Nick, I know you, Nicholas, cause I'll make sure I get Nick videos.
		Love you Nick.
		Um, but, uh, Nicholas, uh, my question to you, man, is you keep saying we need to have like a monolith type or just a monoculture.
		The problem with that is in the beginning, if it was more monoculture, black people weren't treated the same and that was done by Protestant Christians.
		So I guess my question to you is, if it wasn't for people with opposing views, then we'd probably still be slaves given that same atmosphere and how everything was constructed and interpreted in the beginning of that constitution.
		So at what point are you taking, what are you saying that's being interpreted wrong?
		And at what point will you say we went too far with the constitutional rights?
		I guess I'm trying to get at, and how do we fit in without us being marginalized through Jim Crow laws and everything for the last 300 years?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll say on the question of slavery that it was actually white civilization which was unique.
		I think that every people and every civilization had slavery.
		You know, the indigenous Americans, Muslims, even sub-Saharan Africans.
		I mean, everyone had slavery.
		But what was unique is that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and Christianity actually paved the way for the abolition of slavery.
		And that's one of those things that is unique about Western white civilization that everybody shares in the advantage of this the whole world and even the people in the country and what's different and then that's actually a great point that you brought up because one of the main differences of these other people is They lack those foundations that would have led to something like that.
		I think the opposite is true.
		I think the opposite is true that if we had had the attitudes of other civilizations, we would have never had freedom on the scale that we had or liberated people around the world.
		So I think it's actually quite the opposite.
		The people that are coming over, like Asians and Latin Americans, I think if anybody is more prone to regress in terms of humanitarianism or barbarism, I think it would be these other populations coming over.
		The only place where slavery still exists, or one of the only, I mean obviously exists everywhere, but on a massive scale is North Africa, is Libya in particular because of regime change, but that's another subject.
		But the places where you still have slavery are the third world, and it's those cultures that we're bringing in.
		That's an example of a big disagreement.
		We can disagree about Okay, guys, y'all recorded it, right?
		Not necessarily little things, but things that are within that cultural core, which includes the things that freed the slaves and paved the way for civil liberties and so on.
		But the things that are coming over here are oppressive totalitarian agendas.
		I mean, look at Latin America, Asia.
		It's big government and bad big government.
		It's like totalitarian, oppressive big government.
		And they're bringing those attitudes here to replicate the barbaric things that we had in our past.
unidentified		Okay, guys, I recorded it, right?
		He just said he wasn't racist.
		All right.
		I'm true.
		I'm Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I love everybody.
unidentified		Alright, let's get another question.
		Let's go second page.
		Go to Ravioli.
		His name was Nick Fuentes, however you say it, but 2020 at the end.
		He was in the Discord saying he wanted to talk.
		I know Ravioli has had her hand up for a while.
		Yeah, I'm gonna go to Ravioli, she's had her hand up for a while.
		You are unmuted.
		Okay, hi.
		So I'm going to try and make this as quick as possible.
		I understand your views.
		I understand where you're coming from.
		But if we just block immigration completely, we're banning a lot of good people from coming in.
		I'm not saying all of them are good, but for example, my dad, he's retired Navy.
		My uncle, he's a bioengineer.
		My aunt, she's a nurse.
		And I live in California, right?
		It's very diverse.
		But almost all of the immigrant families that I know, are in a good job that benefit our society, like a doctor, or a lawyer, or in the Navy.
		Like, there's a lot of immigrants benefiting our country.
		And I understand, I understand where you're coming from.
		But if you ban immigration, you're also banning people coming in from changing America for the better.
		And I agree with, I forgot who said it earlier, but America, I believe, was made for people to come in to find refuge.
		I don't think I'm making sense.
		I might be making sense.
		I don't know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I understand your question.
		It's a valid question.
		It's a good question.
		But the question is, who is America for?
		And, you know, why do we have a country?
		Because what I'm hearing in a lot of these questions is the presupposition that, and I understand, but it's the perspective of the outsider, the foreigner, well, You know, what about these good foreigners, these good people from other countries who come here and make America better?
		What about people who want a job in America?
		But I'm sitting here, and that's why it's called America First, wondering, what about the good people in America?
		What about the people in America and what's good for them?
		And so certainly if we shut down immigration, there would be people deprived of opportunity or good people coming over here.
		But what's lost on a lot of people is that One argument that is made, and this is an example, is they will say that if you increase immigration, then GDP goes up.
		If you increase immigration, then the economy grows bigger and everybody's better off.
		But what they don't point out is that these numbers are actually different.
		That's the whole pie.
		But when we look at the natives versus the immigrants, the people that benefit and create that net benefit from immigration are the immigrants themselves.
		What is involved in that increase in value and that transfer is that the native population gets poorer while the immigrants get richer.
		And I don't think it's right that the government is looking out for the interests and the benefit of immigrants or foreigners instead of our own people.
		Because, you know, while people may come over here and do a lot of great things, you have to understand that there's a finite number of jobs.
		And so when you bring workers over here and bring labor over here, wages go down.
		That's one example.
		Is it a good government that says we will sacrifice the interest of our own people for the benefit of people in another country?
		Let those governments look out for their people.
		Why doesn't Mexico look out for Mexico's people?
		Why does our government look out for Mexico's people when their government doesn't?
		Who's looking out for us?
		And that's where I come at it from.
unidentified		Wait, real quick though.
		Isn't it when, so let's say you're talking about immigrants.
		If an immigrant comes over here legally and is deemed a U.S.
		citizen, isn't it then they're American, right?
		So if they're getting jobs or whatnot, isn't America still technically looking after their own people?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I think that's sort of a technical way to look at it.
		I mean, if somebody comes over here and they have a baby, they become a naturalized U.S.
		citizen because of birthright citizenship.
		I mean, is that really, like, a fair way to say that they're an American?
		I mean, does citizenship equate with, you know, American identity?
unidentified		If somebody has their baby— I'm not talking about, like, a legal immigrant.
		I mean, if you're raised as a child.
		Raised as a child.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about in that moment.
unidentified		I'm talking about somebody that goes through the immigration, right?
		The immigration process, actually.
		Like, you could say a legal immigrant.
		In a legal sense, but the point would remain the same.
		But the point would remain the same.
		They're technically still part of America, even if they're only deemed an American citizen as of like a day ago.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		In a legal sense, but the point would remain the same.
		But the point would remain the same, that the native population that is already here and has been, you know, if we're talking about from a point zero, you've got a person who is here and an immigrant.
		You know, we're talking about the end result, but every immigrant comes from another country.
		So, I mean, they may come from another country and benefit at the expense of a native, but, I mean, does that mean that, oh, well, everybody's better off?
		I mean, no.
		The person that was a native and in the country and an American lost, and the person that came over from somewhere else and, you know, then they got naturalized and so on, they won, but does that make it any less different that one is a foreigner and one is a native?
		I mean, you could say that after a million years that's the case, but what matters after a million years?
unidentified		So, out of curiosity, you mentioned that legal immigrants come and they're successful and that could take away from American citizens.
unidentified		Do you think that could have anything to do with legal immigrants working harder than American citizens?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, and I'm not even talking about individual cases.
		I'm just talking generally that, you know, we're not talking about, well, they're going to get advancement.
		I'm saying that if you look at labor economics, it's very simple supply and demand stuff.
		The more that you have of something, the less it is worth.
		You know, this is supply and demand.
		And labor, like any other good, is subject to the laws of supply and demand.
		The more labor that you have, the bigger the supply, the lower the price.
		In other words, the lower the wage.
		And just think about a very simple example.
		Walmart and Target have to compete for a small number of workers.
		How are they going to compete for a small number of workers?
		They're going to offer higher wages.
		Well, if you work for us, I'll give you benefits.
		If you work for us, I'll pay a higher hourly wage.
		What if there are so many workers that Walmart and Target have more than enough to go around?
		Well, they're going to lower wages.
		They're going to say, oh, you don't like your job?
		You're totally expendable.
		There's a hundred people waiting in line for your job.
		And that's essentially what has happened to both high- and low-skilled workers in this country for 50 years, is that all workers have become expendable.
		Because if a company thinks they can get an advantage, they will import workers, high- or low-skilled, to take American jobs.
		And that is why you have low wages.
		That is why Middle class is shrinking.
		So it's not necessarily about working harder or not.
		It's just a matter of, you know, having a limited number of jobs and supply and demand.
unidentified		So I would like to point something out with that.
		I'm a farmer.
		I grew up on a farm.
		I now work in politics.
		Growing up on a... Do you know the percentage that the average American spends on their food a year?
		No.
		Based on a percentage of their income?
		I don't have the exact document, but we pay a lower percentage of our income on food, just on basic necessities than any other country in the developed world.
		Now, part of that is because we have laborers that are willing to do things for cheaper.
		And just coming from the perspective of a farmer, it's a lot easier to hire someone and a lot better off for The business of the farmer and for the American people, so they aren't spending as much of their money on their food to hire someone that may be here with a green card to come and harvest a crop or help take care of a crop versus a man $15 an hour for the same amount of work.
		So, I mean, to say that it's actually hurting America, I can actually see where economically that Decreasing the amount of immigrants and the amount of people that are here working, holding green cards would end up hurting America more because of the amount of cost increases that it would create.
		Not to mention if we have most businesses, if they have to increase wages, they're just going to modernize and put in kiosks or, you know, other ways to limit unskilled labor to where they don't have to raise the, you know, they don't have to Uh, increase their costs on their customers so they can continue providing that good or service.
		So I guess my point here is that I can see your point, but I can also see where your point becomes invalid when we start discussing the modernization of industry and how technology comes into play as well.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because agriculture is really interesting to me.
		Agriculture is, you know, a lot of people I would say, and maybe you could tell me if this is right or wrong, but I know people that work in agriculture and will work in politics and they deal with agriculture.
		And they tell me that, you know, the perception of farmers in America is like Farmer Brown, tending to his fields, and generally farming is a lot of factory farming and major industry, big business type stuff.
unidentified		There's no such thing as a factory farm.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, right.
unidentified		There's high-density agriculture, but there is no such thing as a factory farm.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Got it, okay.
		So you just have like big industrial, big holdings, conglomerates, but right, we quibble with the language.
		But in any case, the point being is we're talking about farmers.
		We're not talking about like a farmer with a small plot of land and so on.
		I mean, we're talking about big business.
unidentified		85% of farms in this country are owned by By family.
unidentified		They are family farms.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, who is not in a family?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's a family.
unidentified		No, but, like, they might supply to somebody, but half those things, like, they're just, like, really, like, family-oriented.
		Like, you got the cousins and whatnot there.
		Ain't no, like, big old Amazon of farming.
		Those don't exist.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, does agriculture have a massive lobby?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Does agriculture get massive subsidies?
unidentified		Or is that not true?
unidentified		Unfortunately, they do get subsidies as a form of price control.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is that because of lobbying?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is that because of big agriculture lobbying?
unidentified		Well, I mean, that came in under the Roosevelt administration because the price of corn dropped so low.
		Well, you have to, right?
		I don't necessarily agree with subsidies.
		I don't have a lobbyist.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My family doesn't have a lobbyist.
unidentified		Well, neither do I. Because we raise chickens and apples.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Your industry has a lobbyist.
unidentified		All industries have a lobbyist.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		The point I'm trying to make is that agriculture is one of the biggest fat cats that there is.
		And a lot of conservatives like to talk about, you know, the farmer and all this kind of stuff, or even things like welfare or whatever, bailouts, but agriculture is one of the biggest fat cats, one of the biggest beneficiaries of welfare in the country in the form of subsidies.
		They have big lobbyists.
		And I just want to point that out because a lot of people like to say that, well, oh no, it's this sort of idyllic, like pastoral thing.
unidentified		It's not that way.
unidentified		Oh, it's anything but idyllic.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Especially not politically, is the point.
		And when you're talking about workers, when you're talking about illegal farm workers...
		You're talking about probably the biggest incidence of migrants taking American jobs.
		You're talking about lower costs, but what does this come at the price of?
		Primarily and firstly, like you said, it comes at the cost of American workers.
		We could pay Americans a higher wage to do the jobs that illegals do, but farmers would like to pay a lower wage and often break the law and hire illegals to do the same job.
		And I understand there's visas and there's all kinds of things that have been done
		to help them cut corners but agriculture is one of the it's one of the biggest hypocrisies that and I hear all this kind of stuff from and I know because I was in politics from Republicans that are against welfare and they're constitutionalists but agriculture gets all this welfare and they hire illegals and by the way though the cost isn't just in terms of jobs that that's one of the best examples of you could hire Americans for a higher wage but instead you hire foreigners for a lower wage and maybe you save a little bit maybe the Americans save a little bit
		I'd prefer to pay a little bit more and have Americans working, but even beyond that, the cost is greater.
		Did you know, you ever hear the story about Molly Tibbetts?
		Molly Tibbetts was...
		A young girl, I think she was 19 years old in Iowa, and she was murdered by an illegal immigrant, chopped up.
		And it turned out that that illegal immigrant, it was very much similar to Kate Steinle, the illegal immigrant that killed her was working in a dairy plant.
		And that dairy plant that he worked at was owned by one of the biggest donors to the Republican Party in Iowa.
		And to me, that is a horrible tragedy.
		But that is a perfect example of what is going on in the Republican Party and everything that I oppose.
		Because certainly these people that they're bringing in, are cheaper and they're better for the bottom line.
		And I'm sure that some of that benefit goes towards the American people.
unidentified		We save a little bit of money or a lot money. - Oh, it does definitely go towards the American consumer. - Sure, when we buy our groceries.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But at what cost?
		At what cost?
		And that goes back to that question, or that phrase rather, we wanted workers, we got people.
		We wanted people to pick our berries, We wanted people to work in the fields.
		We wanted people to work in the dairy plant.
		But we didn't get workers.
		We got people.
		We got people that are bringing drugs.
		Like Donald Trump said, they're bringing drugs.
		They're bringing crime.
		They're rapists.
		And by the way, I don't think the economic cost is justified.
		I don't think any of the cost is justified.
		How about instead of bringing over migrant workers, We could say we will not bring over murderers or drug dealers or rapists or even just straight-up workers.
		We'll hire American people and we'll pay a little bit more.
		I would be fine with paying a little bit more.
		America is a rich country.
		We are a wealthy country.
		And we need to start looking out for our producers and our workers and not just the consumers.
		Because that's a big problem with conservative economics.
		This is primarily concerned with the consumers.
		Never mind all these towns that have been destroyed in the heartland of the country because the factories and manufacturing has gone overseas.
		Forget about that.
		We need cheap LCDs.
		We want cheap televisions.
		Well, you know, tell all the people that are killing themselves or dying of opioids because their town was hollowed out and destroyed that it was worth it because now I can go and buy a 52-inch TV for $300.
		I don't think it's worth it.
		And that's what we have to talk about is trade-offs.
		But I would also counter that by saying, you know, like I said, I grew up on a farm.
		I grew up in a farming community.
		And that's what America First is about, not profit first, not consumers first, not immigrants first, Americans first, and that includes workers, not just consumers.
unidentified		But I would also counter that by saying, like I said, I grew up on a farm.
		I grew up in a farming community, and I honestly have yet to see any large number of immigrant or someone that – a migrant worker that was actually not better well-behaved than most Americans.
		Because as part of, you know, us keeping some of these, uh, green card holders in our employ, we provide them with a place to live and they would keep that place spotless.
		And, you know, there was hardly any ever, I mean, I don't even think we ever had any incidents of drug use.
		I think the most that, uh, We could ever say is sometimes I had a few too many beers, but that's just anyone.
		So, I mean, I think that you're talking about an overwhelming minority of, uh, people when they immigrate, and this is not so much focused towards people that are illegal as it is people that come here legally by saying that they're bringing crime with them.
		And, you know, I, I do, and I mean, I do take issue with some of the things that you.
		Have said about agriculture because there are a lot of farmers that would not be able to function without some of the government programs because you have to have crop insurance if your crop fails.
		Otherwise you lose thousands of acres of land.
		Now, you know, do I think that other things should be subsidized?
		No, but we do have to, our food supply is a, a national security issue because if we do not have a decent affordable food supply, That's the first thing that can lead to some sort of revolution or some sort of uprising.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not importing a population of barbarians from across the border?
unidentified		That's... I mean, I understand what you're saying, but... The Cato Institute did a study, and they found that if we take away, like, them crossing the border thing, like, they commit, like, less crimes than natural-born citizens once they're here.
unidentified		They commit crimes at a lower rate.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
unidentified		Yes, it is true.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's just Arizona.
		That data from the Cato Institute is self-reported.
		If you're looking at John Lott, a criminologist who looks at pre-sentencing data, they commit a vastly disproportionate amount in Arizona and in other states.
unidentified		So the data, the methodology you're talking about is because – Which are not cultural areas.
		And that is because – You can't just look at Arizona.
		It's the entire country.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That is because – and that is because the Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank that is funded by big business.
		American Enterprise Institute, Cato Institute, they're all the same.
		They're getting paid to write this kind of stuff.
		And, you know, you look at – and even like Amnesty International, our government, they will tell you that the rape rate on the border is like 70%.
		Of women illegally crossing the border, 70% of them get raped.
		And like, who's doing the raping down there?
		It's coyotes, it's illegal immigrants, and the crime rate is spiking in Arizona and California, all over, and it's because of illegal immigrants.
		And you know, maybe you live on a farm or something, but I live a little bit outside of Chicago.
		And I can tell you that you don't want to be caught in certain neighborhoods after dark in Chicago.
		And these are the people who are bringing over.
		And you could say that, well, the farmer ones, you know, they're much more well-behaved.
		But I can assure you that anybody who lives near one of these neighborhoods could tell you and paint a very different picture of a different standard of living and a different quality of life.
unidentified		Okay, so listen, you know, you want to talk about like, and I take, you know, I take, uh, you know, a lot of, I guess, it pertains to me a lot more, I guess is what I'm trying to say, but because I live in a town where our university in town, I could get a minority scholarship to go to that university, you know?
		And so, does that necessarily mean that just because I live in a town where I am the minority, does that make me upset?
		Does that make me feel left out?
		Does that make me feel like I don't belong?
		Or does that make me feel like I should be scared?
		No, because truth be told, what it comes down to is you're going to have crime centralized in areas because whenever crime begins to come on and like, I guess, wave on each other, you know, it comes in waves.
		It comes in, you know, big groups.
		And so it's not necessarily that it comes with culture.
		It's not necessarily that it becomes, you know, where it comes with a race.
		It comes with each other.
		Crime does not see culture.
		Crime does not see race.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That is the opposite of true.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever heard of a book called The Color of Crime?
unidentified		No, I've never heard of it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		There's a great book called The Color of Crime, and it explores this, that there are wild disparities in crime rates based on race.
		And I would also add, and you could check that out, you know, Table 42 of FBI Crime Statistics will show you the disproportionality in violent crimes committed by whites versus non-white groups, but I would even expand it even further if we're talking about immigration, And look at the crime rates in these countries where the people are coming from.
		Look at the crime rate in Mexico.
		Look what happened in Culiacán.
		Does anybody remember that last year in Culiacán when the whole city exploded because of the drug cartels?
		And by the way, that's not just one city.
		That's Mexico, that's Nicaragua, that's Honduras, Guatemala, that's Brazil.
		Do we think that it is a coincidence that this is the case, number one?
		And then number two, No one said they're magically not violent.
		They come here, and magically they're not violent.
		What about the soil or the paper that they receive when arriving in America?
unidentified		No one said they're magically not violent.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying you said that.
unidentified		A violent country doesn't mean they're violent people.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think the countries are violent?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Who makes them violent?
unidentified		The drug cartels.
		I have a question.
		I'm honestly going to have to jump here.
		The drug cartels are the violent people.
		People from other countries have different standards of what's considered okay, so of course they're going to be dealing with more.
		Yeah, that's exactly.
		These countries have groomed a different type of society and a different type of freedom in the sense that they allow more to happen.
		Yeah, but why do you think that is, though?
		Why do you think this is?
		I mean, we can talk about- It's not because they're Mexican!
		Of course it is!
		Of course it is!
		Yeah, yeah, exactly!
		- American officials could probably overpower the army of Mexicans.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		- Yeah, but why do you think that is though?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think this is?
unidentified		I mean, we can talk about-- - It's not because they're Mexican.
unidentified		- Of course it is, of course it is. - I mean, also, we have government corruption in that country.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		- Yeah, exactly, but I'm getting to the point of, I believe you, and I believe you if there was one country that was like this.
		One country that was violent, you know.
		But, I mean, we're talking about the universality of this experience.
		We're talking about a pattern of behavior.
unidentified		The universality that every race that's not white and every culture that's not white is?
		No, no.
		See, now you're eating into it.
		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
		I'm not eating into anything.
		The truth is, the only race that you have not claimed that this happens to is Asians and whites.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Because that's the only races that it doesn't happen to.
unidentified		So do you think it's genetic?
		Do you think that races are genetically predisposed to commit more crimes?
		Yes!
		Yes!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is uncontroversial.
unidentified		This is uncontroversial.
unidentified		One person talking at a time, guys.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And here, if you're confused about this, let me explain.
		First of all, let's think in terms of what we know.
		All of Sub-Saharan Africa.
		Can we point to a single success story?
		No.
		Every country in Sub-Saharan Africa is violent, poor, corrupt, anarchic.
		Nobody would want to be there.
unidentified		Well, a lot of that's because of imperialism.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me, Haiti is the same way.
		Jamaica is the same way.
		Detroit is the same way.
		The south side of Chicago is the same way.
		Now we could point to, oh well, but this time it was this or that time it was that, but the experience is the same across the world.
		It's across the world in different areas, in different economic categories, and depending on different historical factors.
		Are we supposed to believe that, well, because of a conspiracy of random events, these people are just not well off everywhere they reside?
		And is this the same with Latin Americans?
unidentified		No one claims these are random events.
		What we are claiming is the fact that crime flows no matter who it is.
		Hold on.
		That's not true.
		Crime flows in large areas.
		Hey, Topher really gotta say something.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I would love to.
unidentified		I would love to.
		I would love for you to prove to me why you're making the claim right now that crime goes with race.
		Like, these people are poor.
		Genetically.
		I mean, what is written in their genetics?
		Like, it's born in their genetics.
		Like, yes, I'm just going to... I'm born for crime.
		It's the way they're... Because I'm in this culture and I'm in this race, I'm born into it.
		You know what Topher's got to say.
		Hold on.
		What, Topher?
		What's the talk?
		What, Topher?
		Topher, speak.
		I was laughing.
		Okay, so... Oh, my God.
		You know, that had to be the most racist thing I heard in a long time.
		True.
		I get what you're saying.
		Um, uh, I just, I just have to question you here.
		So we're just going to ignore the whole Jim Crow, right?
		So we ain't gonna look back on doing that time period when black people were not committing the most crimes, but it was actually white people murdering, killing, lynching, throwing, feeding babies to alligators, going up and burning down Tulsa, Oklahoma, bombing all these things.
		You know, uh, they did government experiments on black people.
		They did all kinds of things.
		This was predominantly white.
		God bless it, son.
		So my question is, how do you justify them being more violent during that time and not being a natural, I guess, proponent of their race?
		But now, all of a sudden, us being violent in Detroit and certain areas in America, that's because of our race.
		Preach, it's over!
		Well, I'm going to speak to the... Just a moment, I want to say something.
		My man.
		See you, Austin.
		I heard a family talking.
		I think we should let Nick respond to that.
		Yeah, I want to address, yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So, I understand what you're saying.
		I understand what you're saying, and people can come up with a variety of explanations for why.
		What we're talking about fundamentally is disparities.
		We're talking about disparities between races in wealth, in standards of living, in crime.
		And the question is, what is causing these disparities?
		That is fundamentally the question.
unidentified		It's probably not something written into their genetic code, though.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're going to get to that.
		We're going to get to that.
		I don't think it's racist to ask that question.
		Is it racist to ask why these disparities arise or exist?
unidentified		Is that wrong?
		It's racist to make an assumption, though.
		I'm not making an assumption.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not making an assumption.
unidentified		I'm just...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just trying to make sure that we're all together here as we move along.
		So we agree then that this question matters, and it's not racist to ask this question.
		We acknowledge that these disparities exist, and we must inquire why.
		Because if we're going to live in a multiracial country, we have to get to the bottom of why some are doing well and some are doing not well.
		We have to get to the bottom of why some are rich and some are poor, but between these different racial groups.
		And we can come up with different explanations, for example, that are Historical and sociological.
		And I'm not trying to say that none of those are true.
		Or none of those play a part.
		Because we could look at Jim Crow and slavery and obviously, obviously a freed slave in 1965 is not going to be economically at parity with a white person.
		That much is obvious.
		And we can agree to that.
		And we can agree that even still, a hundred years later, under Jim Crow, how could somebody under discriminatory laws achieve economic parity with the majority population?
		Of course, that plays a part.
		And we could talk about all kinds of other historical factors.
		We could talk about, you know, well, the government is corrupt here, or drug cartels here, or the CIA.
		I agree with you.
		They did experiments on blacks.
		And, you know, they did some stuff with drugs.
		So, you know, without getting too much into that, I agree that those are factors.
		What I'm talking about, and this is where I think a lot of people just run away from right away, and I just told you, I don't have a problem with any other person, depending on their color or whatever, but we are talking about the fact that human biodiversity is real, that there are group differences.
		And if And if that's a stretch for a lot of people, I want to just tell you, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steve Pinker, all these major people agree.
		The science on this is uncontroversial.
		That there are differences between the groups.
unidentified		And we're not talking about... Ben Shapiro does not agree with you, Ned.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Can I make a point?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ben Shapiro absolutely does.
unidentified		I will show you the clip.
		We never said that there wasn't differences.
		You're assuming that it's genetic.
		There is no scientific evidence.
		We obviously said that racial groups are going to be different.
		Please, can I rebuttal his point?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Can I finish the point before we get rebuttals, or what?
unidentified		Yes, make the point, finish your point, and I'll rebuttal it.
		Stop yelling, stop yelling, stop yelling.
		So here's the point.
		Here's the point.
		Sorry, my camera, or my mic was too close.
		Hey, everyone shut up and let him finish his point.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We talk about a lot of different, uh, racial differences, for example.
		Like there's, there's this, uh, you know, we all know the meme about, like, you know...
		Black people might be more athletic than white people.
		We heard this one, because I don't want to get into that one, but just as an example.
		And people are willing to acknowledge some of these differences.
		People might say, well, Asian people are shorter than white people.
		Or, you know, Dutch people are tall, or things like this.
		So we acknowledge that there are racial differences there, but there are other racial differences.
		There are differences in terms of, like, black people, for example, have more fast twitch muscle fiber.
		than white people.
		There are all kinds of differences like that.
		There are also group differences in intelligence.
		On average, there are group differences in intelligence.
		And this is something that is uncontroversial.
		If you look at the literature, this is something that, I don't know why you're laughing, Ben Shapiro, all your, everybody that you follow concedes this, but they don't want to talk about it.
unidentified		I don't follow any of them.
unidentified		It's true.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then how do you know you probably follow Bill Kristol, but the point being is that this is something that even mainstream conservatives agree and acknowledge, even liberals acknowledge this.
		Even who is the one who discovered the structure of DNA?
		He got his Nobel prize revolt because he acknowledged this.
unidentified		So, this is something that- He got his Nobel Prize revoked because it was proven to be factually incorrect.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
unidentified		That is not true at all.
unidentified		No one's disputing the fact that there is differences.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No one's disputing- Okay, then what is the difference?
unidentified		Because it's- What is the difference then?
		Why is that difference?
		Claiming that it's genetic, that is completely unfactual and unscientific, there's zero evidence for it.
		That's why he got his Nobel Prize revoked.
		Because he said that it was genetic.
		That's not why.
		Yes it was!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He said- That's not why.
		Wait, wait, wait a minute.
		You just said that there's differences between groups, but then you said that there are not?
unidentified		No, there is differences.
unidentified		It's not due to genes, though, or any... What else would it be, then, between races?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about differences between groups of people.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What else would it be besides genes?
unidentified		Intelligence isn't a genetic factor.
		It absolutely is.
		Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
		Okay, listen, I'm gonna let one person talk at a time because I know everybody's wanting to respond here, okay?
		So, Nevin, did you finish your point?
		Yes, there is no evidence saying that IQ or violence is genetically related.
		It's due to years of- Okay, well, the science is on my side.
		I'd like to see- It's not.
		It's not on your side.
		Even if there's an IQ difference, that doesn't mean that some race is genetically predisposed to commit more crimes.
		IQ is going down.
		Listen to Nicolas Fuentes talk for fuck's sake.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Holy- With that attitude, you're only insulting yourself.
unidentified		Hold on, real quick.
		Let me ask this, just to clarify.
		Let's have like a respectful discussion.
		Just to clarify for myself something real quick.
		So, you're saying that genetically, right, someone was born with a- doesn't matter what race, right, because we can talk about the white mafias and mobs, right, because they've done some horrific stuff.
		You know what I mean?
		You're saying people with certain races are born genetically think like with genetics genetically disposed or whatever the language is.
		I'm not good with big words.
		Okay, because I'm this because this is I'm born with this in this type of area.
		I'm gonna commit this crime because I don't think someone's born with the fact of okay.
		I'm black.
		I'm gonna go out and join a gang or I'm white.
		I'm gonna go in the Mafia or going to the KKK.
		I'm Mexican.
		I'm going to MS-13.
		I don't think anybody does that because genetically that just that literally doesn't line up with genetics.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Sure it does.
unidentified		Culture influences the decisions you make when you grow up.
		The nurture system and where you grow up does, not the genetics.
		Is there a peer reviewed study that you can cite to show that intelligence has genetic factors?
		Does that not line up more with location than genetics?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, it definitely lines up with more examples.
unidentified		How?
		How?
		Explain to me, Aaron.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean how.
		Across the world, this is the case.
		But in any case, if I could respond to one person at a time, that would be... There we go, we got the bell curve.
		My guy, he's right on the money, exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, you got it.
		But Sensei, we can't hear you.
		We can't hear you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing, though.
		You guys just have to, I think, be a little open-minded here, for once.
		Conservatives and liberals can be a little open-minded.
		What I'm saying is simply that if we can acknowledge that these differences are real, and the differences are meaningful, then they create different outcomes.
		They create different patterns of behavior.
		And if you look at average IQ, and some of you guys are not going to like this, but the average IQ of blacks in this country is 85.
		The average IQ of West Africans is 65.
		And this is scientific.
		This is backed up by the data.
		If you want to see it, I can produce it.
		I don't have it in front of me right now, but I can produce it on another stream.
		But this is uncontroversial.
		And this is why you see these disparities.
		And if we want to address the disparities, we have to address the causes of them.
		And you don't get any points by, oh, well, it's racist to say that, or it's racist to say that.
		I'm looking at this as a problem solver that says, if we want to achieve any level of harmony or equality between the people, we have to address the root causes.
		And if the root causes are genetic, then so be it.
		If that's the facts, those are the facts.
		You could say that's racist, but I thought facts don't care about our feelings.
unidentified		But the problem is, that's not a fact.
unidentified		So you're not hurting my feelings.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It is absolutely a fact.
unidentified		I literally have something to debunk right now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever heard of something called the warrior gene?
unidentified		Okay, here's the truth.
		My people would go around slaughtering people.
		I come from Vikings.
		We literally raided things because it was fun, and we got bored in the ice.
		Have you heard of the warrior gene, though?
		Hold on.
		Wait.
		If you want to talk about the warrior gene, how come half the Norwegian and Norse people don't go around carrying battle axes, killing people on the streets?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Because we're not talking about just a generic, oh, you're warriors.
		You have the war.
		That's not like a colloquial expression.
		There is a specific gene that some people have and some don't that is aggression, that is testosterone, and those kinds of things.
		These are genetic.
unidentified		No, no.
		And then the other thing about the whole genetic thing is this.
		You're telling me if, like I said, if it's a genetic thing, you're telling me if we were to take a black baby and put them with the Mexican family, right?
		Or if we take a white baby and put them with the black family or You know, so on and so forth.
		You're saying that it's going to be the same outcome just because they're born with this genetic, not a race, just because they're born with this genetic, that therefore they're going to act as they would if they were still with whatever family, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't say... First of all, I'll answer your question.
		You said it was a genetic thing, though.
		What I said was, is that genetics plays a role.
		And I said, I was very careful to say this, that there are other factors.
		There's environmental factors, there's a stor... I said slavery, Jim Crow, and a variety... I absolutely... Rewind the tape.
		I said that there are a variety of factors that contribute to these disparities, and race is among them.
		Nature and nurture play a role.
		And here's the difference.
		It's funny.
		You guys say it's all environment, and to suggest that it's a little bit race is racist.
		To say it's a little bit race, you can't say that that's racist.
		That's why you're supremacists.
unidentified		Something in front of me to disprove it right now.
		One at a time.
		You're saying it's more than a little bit of race.
		Hang on, hang on, hang on.
		Amanda, Amanda waited for a while.
		Let's let her get her point across.
		So, the only thing that would be considered genetic, in my opinion, is psychopathy and sociopathy, because that has something to do with your brain mental, you can get it through genes, etc.
		According to, this was cited multiple times, I think over 400 times, by the Institute of Bioscience, although considerable research on psychopathy has been conducted over the past 30 years, relatively few studies have been conducted.
		However, this is specifically on blacks and whites, Blacks exceeded whites by an average of less than one point on the PCLR scale, which is statistically.
		There is no scientific and statistic data that blacks have this gene more than whites.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And that's the only genetic... But you're not talking about IQ.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're not disproving my point because you're bringing up something else.
unidentified		This isn't about IQ.
		This is about psychopathy.
		Psychopathy is genetic.
		No, you were talking about genetic predisposition.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is my... No, I was talking about IQ and other factors that lead to disparities in behavior.
unidentified		No, you were talking about genetic predispositions.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Predispositions to behavior based on genetic differences.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to disprove my point by bringing up something I didn't bring up.
unidentified		No, but I'm trying to say that this is the only genetic predisposition someone would have is psychopathy, and there is no scientific evidence that being a different ethnicity is going to raise your chances of being a psychopath or a sociopath.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But that's not what we're talking about.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're not talking about psychopathy.
unidentified		No, yeah, you're talking about sociopaths.
		These people are more likely to commit crimes and psychopaths and sociopaths are more likely to commit crimes.
		You don't understand the topic.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You should talk less because you don't know what you're talking about.
unidentified		So because I'm a woman, I should talk less.
		I just pulled up a little article in the Institute of Biotechnology.
		Let me ask, let me ask, can I ask a question to Nicholas?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
		So you talked a lot about slavery and Jim Crow.
		You have to keep in mind, those weren't the only like racial fat, like race, like racist policies that like we had.
		I mean, for instance, you had like the war on drugs created by Richard Nixon.
		You had the crime bill that was written by Joe Biden and was The crime bill was awesome.
		Okay.
		Oh, well, it didn't work.
		It didn't work very well.
		Absolutely.
		It worked.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It cleaned up crime completely.
unidentified		But you have to keep in mind.
		It was even found out that the CIA implemented black.
		Are you going to vote for Joe now?
		Well, I'm thinking about it. - Oh.
		I'm not going to vote for Joe Biden.
		Go ahead.
		It was literally exposed that the CIA implanted crack cocaine in black neighborhoods.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I said that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I said I didn't want to get into that, but they did things with drugs, which I acknowledged.
unidentified		Exactly.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And you know, by the way, Nick Videos, you seem to be an expert in like this, oh, racism, racism, we're a racist.
		And I acknowledge that.
		I acknowledge that this is a factor in some of these disparities.
		But I think the extent to which that plays a part is vastly overstated.
		Because there is discrimination against a variety of groups that have succeeded in spite of that.
		There has been discrimination against Jewish people in America, and they've succeeded in spite of that.
		There's discrimination against Chinese people, they've succeeded in spite of that.
		People can succeed in spite of discrimination.
		That's not to say it doesn't play a part, but I think the extent to which people attribute these differences to those discrimination and other things, I think is overstated.
		And I think that I'm being very charitable in the way of that and acknowledging a holistic Out of curiosity, is there a statistic that proves that first generation non-white immigrants are less successful than first generation white or Asian immigrants?
		genetic IQ than a lot of things.
		And IQ is a major determinant in the future.
unidentified		Out of curiosity, is there a statistic that proves that first generation non-white immigrants are less successful than first generation white or Asian immigrants?
unidentified		Just out of curiosity.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What is the question again?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I I was looking at you.
unidentified		Is there any statistic that proves that first generation non-white immigrants are less successful than first generation white immigrants, or Asian?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I have looked at statistics, which I know off the top of my head, from Jason Richwine, which show that if you're looking at Hispanic immigrants in particular, they, in general, on average, will arrive to the country with a lower level of education, a lower level of net worth, a lower level of income and literacy, And this improves – then the native population, and it will increase slightly in the second generation, but it doesn't get much better after the second generation.
unidentified		What about first-generation, like African – other than Hispanic or South American immigrants?
unidentified		What about anybody else?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is there any other – So in some cases what you'll – In some cases what you'll find is that the problem with some immigration, with for example the diversity of visa lotteries, that the immigration is self-selected.
		So I will admit that you will get Some immigrants who are high IQ are exceptional.
		For example, I think Nigerians in this country have a higher average income than whites.
		Right, and there are a number of groups that are like this.
		But this is largely because those smaller immigrant groups that are coming here are self-selected.
		And so I'm not saying that there are no intelligent non-white people.
		That would be ridiculous.
		We're talking about averages.
		We're talking about medians, averages.
		We're talking about Things like that.
		So what you'll find is the people that tend to come here from these countries where you don't see a lot of immigration will be self-selected as higher education, higher IQ.
		They will tend to be the higher-up or the elite of the society for getting over to the country.
		It's really not talking about that.
		And by the way, We're not even talking about those minorities of people.
		If you want to bring over, you know, I think there's like certain categories of immigrants that are like, you know, highly educated or extreme specialists in their field.
		You know, maybe we could talk about bringing those people in.
		But what we're talking about is massive amounts of people.
		We're not talking about, you know, 10,000 people from one country from the diversity visa lottery.
		We're talking about 60 million people over 60 years.
		You know, these are broad swaths of people and illegals that we don't even know who they are.
		And so when we average those out, you tend to get a lower quality immigrant.
		And moreover, I'm not making the argument that, well, if they're high IQ and etc., then they're okay.
		You know, I've made cultural and social arguments, but if we're talking about these disparities in crime, we can't attribute them to genetics.
unidentified		I'm still waiting to hear a peer-reviewed scientific study on how genetics influence intelligence.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't have it in front of me, but I can produce it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know I'd be having a race and IQ debate tonight, but I can produce that for you if you're really interested.
unidentified		I would love to know that stuff as well.
		Even if that's true, right?
		How do we go forward?
		If you're saying naturally, we just have lower IQ, we're not going to be as successful, we're going to struggle a little bit more.
		So, shouldn't we be more, I guess, have more subsidization going on or something, instead of us having three strike laws that disproportionately affect us?
		Shouldn't we be shown more leniency, given the fact that we're starting at a lower advantage?
		That's my question.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good question.
		And here's the thing, and here's what I want to make clear is, I'm not I don't like love that this is the case and maybe I should have started with this when I talk about these group differences, which means that blacks are set back compared to whites.
		I'm not like oh, and that's great.
		And what this is like a very tragic and sad fact of our nature inequality.
		is a tragic thing.
		Because I think there's something in us that wants everybody to get a fair shake and everything.
		So I'm not like celebrating that.
		I think we're all equal before God.
		I think we should all be equal before the law.
		But we could say that there is inequality when people begin to be born, right?
		And I don't like that.
		I find that uncomfortable and it's not a great thing.
		But if we want to help people, we have to look at the facts.
		You know, if it is, let's say hypothetically, It's proven that these differences are 100% genetic.
		Then we're wasting a lot of time attributing it to other things than affirmative action.
		All these things are a waste of time.
		We should be trying to figure out how to elevate them in other ways.
		That's what I'm getting at.
		So how do we move forward knowing this?
		Well, for starters, we have to balance The need to keep our country safe versus the need to help people, right?
		I mean, if there are people out there that are killing and doing all kinds of things, it's like, well, let's put them behind bars before we figure out how they're going to get ahead in the world.
		And I agree, we could figure out things like that.
		You know, I think like, if you look at, was it Booker T. Washington back in the day, they had some solutions about, you know, taking some of these communities and Having them get educated and start families, because the black community was actually doing a lot better, you know, under Jim Crow.
		I said that a long time ago and people got mad at me for it, but when did the family, the black family, begin to blow up?
		Right around the 1950s.
		Some people attribute that to the Great Society in the late 60s, but I think largely it's from, you know, civil rights.
		And I'm not saying civil rights is a bad thing or it shouldn't happen, but I'm, you know, just pointing out where these trends began.
		The black family was together, the crime rates were lower, unemployment was lower.
		And I think that if we were to bring that back and look at a lot of these genetic factors and family-based factors and maximizing success, then we'd be okay.
		But you know what doesn't work?
		It's saying, oh, you're poor?
		Here's more programs.
		Here's more money.
		Here's more money for, you know, baby mamas to have tons of kids.
		And you know that happens.
		You know that exacerbates the problems.
		So, you know, I think that's the solution.
		I think we could all get along together and everybody's equal in that sense, but we have to get serious about problems, and getting serious about problems means looking at the facts and addressing the real problems, not the fake ones we come up with to make ourselves feel good.
unidentified		Hang on, hang on.
		Vicente has been waiting for a long time.
		My mic was broken.
		It was my fault.
		All right.
		So I don't agree with Nick on a lot of things, but on the IQ differences, he's correct.
		I've read this entire book.
		He's correct.
		And like, just for the sake of not being called racist, for Mexicans, the average IQ, if you're from Mexico, I don't think it has anything to do with race, your color, anything.
		If you're from Mexico, your average IQ is 89.
		It has an entire country breakdown, and it's all based off of genetics from what happened earlier in generations in that said area.
		When people come to America, their average IQ slightly raises because of environmental things, and it's slowly going to continue to get better through time.
		Here's the book, The Bell Curve.
		Well, and that's fine, you know.
		That's fine that we can say that these nations aren't teaching their people as well as they should be.
		No, it's not even teaching.
		It's based off of genetics.
		It's based off of... You're jumping from point A. You're taking the point A of the fact that there's differences, and then you're saying those are due to genetics.
		You've yet to prove how intelligence is genetically related.
		You just said yourself, when they move countries, their IQ can go up.
		What statistic do you want?
		that it's genetic.
		Jobs?
		Jobs.
		So scientific.
		Which job?
		Which I have the entire book in here, bro.
		I know.
		I have that book too.
		It's based on IQ differences.
		They don't go into the genetic differences that occur.
		It does if you actually read in between the graphs.
		Well, hold on.
		So look.
		I've read The Bell Curse.
		I understand where you're coming from.
		I haven't read the whole thing like you.
		I haven't read parts of it.
		Probably a good three-fourths of it.
		And I'm not calling you, Nicholas, you racist, right?
		I'm not saying that what you're trying to say about the race is strictly racist, but I'm saying so that we're going to talk about intelligence, right?
		Like I was saying earlier, if you're going to take, let's say, a kid that was born in Mexico, the day he was born, right?
		We take him, we put him in, you know, just whatever you consider a decent American school, because yeah, American public school systems suck terribly.
		And studies like that have been done.
		The average IQ only raises 10 points.
		That's it.
		It does raise though, right?
		It does raise.
		10 points max on average.
		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And there's been studies, like there was a study in Minnesota, a twin study, where they took twins and they took one that was, I think it was a twin study.
		I don't know all the details.
		I could look it up for you to get the specifics, but one raised in a white household, one raised in a black household, and the SAT and IQ scores remain the same.
		And it's true.
		There are environmental factors to IQ.
		We're not saying that environment plays no part.
		That would be stupid.
		Of course, environment plays a factor, but genetics plays a very big role in IQ and other things.
		And yeah, Vincente is right.
		The facts are there.
		It's not racist to look at facts.
		Facts are racist now.
unidentified		I thought this was the – No, I'm not – look, I'm not saying you – I'm not saying you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying in general.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I've been getting a lot of heat over here.
unidentified		Well, and the thing is it's this idea that – it's this idea that you're born dumber than white people.
		That's what, that's what, that's what people are hearing.
		Not just white people, because white people don't even have the highest IQ, I believe, right?
		Well, I know, I know, I know, but okay.
		East Asian Indian people.
		Okay, East Indian or whatever, you know, but, but white, white, you know, is what the, like, I guess, Well, it doesn't mean that.
		The statistics aren't based off of your skin color.
		The statistics are based off of where you're from, what country, what region.
		To say that just because you're this race, you're dumb or dumber than somebody else is – But that's not what we're saying.
		Well, it doesn't mean that.
		It's based off of – the statistics aren't based off of your skin color.
		The statistics are based off of where you're from, what country, what region.
		They have Africa breakdowns.
		They have South Africa breakdowns.
		Certain countries.
		So that's cultural.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, but more than that, it's not saying – and this goes back to – what is it?
		Not all X are like this?
		You never heard that expression?
		We're not saying, oh, you're black?
		You're dumb.
		That's not what we're saying.
		We're talking about averages.
		And if you look at Africa, Africa has a huge population.
		And And if you look at the distribution of IQ scores across the continent, you have tons of high IQ people in Africa.
		You have tons of high IQ people from these populations that on average are lower, but we're talking about averages.
		And so if you're talking about most of the population, they're going to be lower.
		We're talking about standard deviation, you know, these distributions.
		So, you know, it's not to say, oh, well, you're this color.
		Dumb.
		We're talking about, and that's how we have to think, because we're a big country and we're talking about big populations moving in.
		We have to think about groups, not individuals.
		There are many intelligent non-white people.
		It's not worth saying that that's impossible.
		We're just saying, on average, we have to grapple with these groups and think about these numbers as we change the racial constitution or composition of our country.
unidentified		I mean, I get that.
		I'm just saying, I know a lot of white folks that are dumber than a rock, especially being out here from the sticks.
		So in that case, we should have more East Indians here than white people.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, because we're not saying that... East Asians do have a higher average IQ than whites, but we're not saying that it's an IQ test to get in the country.
		We're simply... because the problem with immigration is not that they're low IQ or whatever.
		It's that they're not us.
		It's that we don't want to replace the population with another population, whether they're low IQ, high IQ.
		I want America to be us and this to be our home.
		Not, you know, it's like your house.
		You wouldn't want Yeah, I know.
		person to come and live in your house and then they bring all their friends and they have their kids.
		It's like, this is my house, whether high IQ or low IQ.
		The difference is though that maybe a high IQ visitor might be a little bit less disruptive or more benign in some ways.
		And that was that conversation.
		I'm not an IQ nationalist where I'm saying, oh, only the highest IQs.
		I think no immigration for now, high or low IQ, but the reason you see some disparage is being a dick about it.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
unidentified		Yeah, but I mean, you've yet to present one source saying that it is genetic.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to play the, you know, whyamiright.com right now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't have it in front of me, but I can produce it on another stream.
unidentified		That was bad.
		Oh, God.
		You good?
		I swallowed a little bit of Dipshit.
		That was not a good idea.
		So, uh, my battery on my iPad's about to die.
		I'm gonna try and log back in on my laptop.
		Can...
		Yeah, we're gonna have to fix it.
		Yeah, we just won't let anybody in.
		Yeah, I think we pretty much met, like, as far as we're gonna go with the whole IQ thing.
		Yeah, we're gonna... Let's go to, um... Hey, everybody knows, just call in.
		Okay, so let's go on to the next question if everyone's content with this.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		I think we pretty much met as far as we're going to go on the whole IQ.
		There's no more.
		No one's going to budge anymore.
		Yeah, we're going to.
		Reese, I'll handle the Q thing when he comes back in.
		Everybody knows.
		Hey, what's up? - Yeah.
		I just wanted to say, really, I am disturbed that most of you guys are accepting what Nick has said as fact, when almost everything he's said is complete bullshit, and I can prove it.
		I read The Belcher, that book that he's referring to, and that's the basis of this IQ difference.
		Fuentes.
		Okay.
		I was kind of about to say, man, you're getting on Nick's videos real hard there.
		I don't know if you're going to do that.
		I got nothing against him.
		And what he conveniently leaves out is that when that book was published, when The Bell Curve was published, it created such an uproar and a backlash that the people that wrote it, I think there have been something like 20 book-length rebuttals written to The Bell Curve just because it's I think there have been something like 20 book-length rebuttals written to It's not backed up by any real scientific data.
		The bell curve assumes that the quotient g, general intelligence, is a thing that exists, and it assumes you can perfectly measure intelligence with a number, which you can't.
		But even if we assume that to be true, which again, it's not, so the entire premise of the bell curve is false.
		Even the authors of the bell curve say that at maximum, only 40% of your intelligence is genetically based.
		So even if we take the main source that Fuentes is using here and assume everything in it to be completely correct, which it's not, most of it is based off of IQ tests done in the 1800s, where they went to Africa and they asked people, what is a saucer?
		You know, like the thing you put a teacup on.
		And if they said they didn't know, they're like, oh, you're not smart.
		Obviously, someone living in Africa who has never been to Europe would not know what a fucking saucer is.
		And you can't use that as an IQ test.
		But you know, again, Nick leaves that out because that's not important.
		Wait, real quick, let the record show that I'm not saying, and I don't know how I speak for everybody in here, but I don't say even what other conservatives say as fact 100% if I don't know, you know what I mean, if I haven't read it.
		So I'm not- Yeah, I think a lot of us aren't accepting what Nick's saying as fact, I think we just don't- Yeah, yeah, continue on, I know what you're saying, Barry, I'm not- I'm not taking anything anybody's saying as fact until I can read it for myself, so.
		Yeah, okay, alright, I'll give you that, but Again, like, the basis of this book is very, very shaky.
		Some would say indefensible.
		And it is indefensible.
		You will not find a single modern, like, psychologist or scientist who will tell you that there is a racial difference between IQs.
		It is now the generally accepted consensus that IQ is completely based on environmental factors like class, money, and culture.
		That is the fact.
		Like, he talks about how, oh, facts can't be racist, but the facts, the fact that he's using is complete bullshit and is not based on real science.
		You can't just call something a fact because you like what it has to say.
		What he's doing is he's doing the reverse.
		What he's doing is he's starting with a racist idea that blacks are below whites and that other cultures are below white people.
		And then he's cherry picking the bad data That is based on terrible, terrible science to back it up.
		Where what you should be doing is looking at the real data over here and then building your view off of that.
		But what Fuentes is doing is that he's doing the exact opposite.
		He's starting with the assumption that Black people are inferior, and then he's going in trying to defend that with books like The Bell Curve, which are just factually incorrect.
		Can I address that?
		Can I rebut that?
		Everything that I've said I can give you guys a source for because nothing I've said is factually incorrect.
		Before anybody rebuttals, just real quick.
		I like how we just said we're not going to talk about this no more, and someone brings up a question.
		And then, two, let's work on a little bit.
		I understand you probably don't like the man, but let's work on a little bit of how we talk about people.
		Civility.
		Civility.
		We don't all agree for sure.
	I mean, we got liberals.
	We got all sorts of things.
	We just got to, you know what I mean?
	We've got everybody from ancoms to freaking, you know, I mean, pretty bright consumers.
	You hear what you're saying?
	You might have the facts, but just You know what I'm saying.
	And then also, if you have anything else that has to do with the intelligence thing, this is the last thing because we've talked about this for long.
	Can I just stay unmuted for one second so I can hear his rebuttal and respond?
	And also, I just want to say, I don't think an argument that inherently treats races of people as below other people and a racist argument, I don't think that deserves civility.
	I don't think we have to entertain and we have to be civil About the possibility of racism.
	I don't think we have to put that in a certain way.
	Well, I think that to have a productive discussion is active and civil.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No matter who you're- Listen, listen.
	It isn't a productive discussion.
	I would argue that it is a productive discussion.
	Who are you?
	And how did you get un-muted?
	I un-muted him.
	So, here, look.
	I'll explain, I'll explain.
	He's extremely smart.
	So, I'm, you know, I would consider myself far less Yeah, I would consider myself far left.
	You know, I mostly just came here to watch, but I was pretty disturbed that all these racist ideas that are factually incorrect, even though he likes to think they are, We're not being challenged properly.
	Because we all collectively have a rather popular following and we can't really give pushback if we don't have the information at hand because we can't say things that may not be factually correct.
	I don't think many people in this zoom call prepared to have this debate tonight.
	It's not our like area of expertise.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, can I reply now?
unidentified		I want to hear this, I really do.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So in the first place I want to acknowledge that you are a leftist and I want to say that, I mean, really the argument comes from what you accuse me of doing is what you have done actually instead.
		You say, well, You started from a racist conclusion and worked your way backwards to justify it.
		And you have essentially done the opposite.
		You have started with the conclusion that equality is total and complete.
		There are no genetic causes for IQ.
		There are no group differences in IQ.
		I'm going to go to imright.com and you know, blah, blah, blah.
		And so I will just say that everything you're accusing me of doing, you have done.
		And this is what most people do on this subject is, you know, even this guy who keeps saying, wait a second, I'll let you finish.
		This other guy who keeps saying, There's no scientific evidence.
		This one guy won't even put his face on the camera.
		There's no scientific evidence at all.
		You don't know that.
		You haven't looked at the data.
		You don't know what you're talking about.
		But people refuse to believe something that causes cognitive dissonance and goes against what they've believed for 20 years.
		So I just want to point that out right away.
		And I also want to say I haven't assumed anybody's intentions or motivations here.
		And I find it very nasty and not civil that people come here and say, oh, you're racist or you're right, you know, whatever.
		You know, you worked your way backwards.
		I want to say that I was a libertarian when I was in high school, okay?
		I'm Mexican myself.
		I'm a quarter Mexican.
		And so, you know, I was just like an average, regular white guy in high school.
		Yeah, whatever.
		Everybody's equal, hate racism, libertarian, whatever.
		But what happened is data came crashing down on my worldview.
		And all this stuff, the scholarship which has been buried for so long, came to my attention.
		I changed my opinion based on the data.
		Do you think it would be easier or harder for me?
		To go into the world as somebody talking like this or somebody talking like everybody else.
		Everybody's equal.
		Everybody's equal.
		I could be, you know, Turning Point USA rep.
		I could be a Democrat operative.
		I could make a lot of money if I just peddled that kind of stuff.
		So to assume my motivations is wrong, it doesn't make any sense.
		But beyond that, you know, you are saying, I mean, first of all, You're saying that the bell curve is wrong.
		First of all, you say that's my primary source.
		I didn't give that as my primary source.
		I told you.
		I didn't come here.
		I didn't know this was a race and IQ debate.
		I didn't have my papers ready.
		Oh, well, chapter and verse.
		Here's where it says it.
		I told you.
		I can produce the evidence.
		I've read this scholarship before.
		Richard Lin is another one.
		Charles Murray.
		Jared Taylor.
		There's many sources on this subject.
		I don't have it on hand.
		I'm not going to go, while you guys are talking and Google, uh, you know, I'm right.com.
		That's not what I do.
		So we could have that discussion.
		We could have a debate on that another time.
		I thought people were just asking me questions.
		Anyway, even though you say that's my main source and it isn't, it never was my main source, that there are refutations to a source does not mean the source is invalid.
		Oh, well, this was such bullshit that people responded and said it was untrue.
		Case closed, people disagreed, the original person was wrong.
		So, I mean, that is just a non-starter to begin with.
		And then you go on and say, well, The problem is G. The problem is general intelligence.
	And you say that the problem is the way the tests were administered.
	I know for a fact that I will produce this as soon as I get a minute off stream, like I said, don't have it in front of me, that there have been tests of all varieties administered to all different groups that are completely abstract, without language.
	They use symbols.
	They're without any kind of cultural bias.
	This has been evaluated.
	So you say, oh, well, the only tests that have ever been done on IQ were 200 years ago.
	I'm talking about saucers, something obviously colored by culture.
	But there's so much scholarship on IQ measured in a variety of ways, by a variety of different tests.
	And tests that don't use language even.
	Tests that, like I said, are symbols.
	They'll look at dots or lines.
	Pattern recognition, things like that.
	And G, general intelligence, that is a concept that is accepted by most mainstream IQ scientists.
	And like I said, I didn't prepare all my papers for this.
	I thought we were gonna talk about immigration.
	That was what my stream was about, but the scholarship is there.
	So for you to come over here and say, I'm actually, I don't know what background you're from, but I'm this left-wing communist, and you're just a white supremacist, and I'm making your assumptions about your intentions.
	And this is the problem with the discourse.
	Why do you think it is that people get buried in an avalanche and all mainstream people agree that race and IQ doesn't exist?
	It's because of these social functions and everybody wants to pretend that social pressure does not affect scholarship.
	Do you think scientists all go out there and say, Yes.
	I'm going to discover the truth, whatever the cost.
	I'm a researcher.
	I'll find the truth and report it, whatever the cost.
	That's not how it works.
	How it works is that they conform to the cathedral.
	They conform to this amalgamation of academic media type infrastructure.
	And if they achieve a racist conclusion, then they simply change the methodology or change the data.
	This happens in Europe all the time with crime statistics.
	This happens with race and IQ.
	Whatever is inconvenient for the liberal narrative is buried because all academics and scholars know that if you produce a politically incorrect report or result, then your career's over and you're done.
	We all know how that's how it works.
	So to say that because there was opposition to a controversial claim, that the controversial claim is wrong, I mean, that's ridiculous.
	So very disingenuous.
	But I mean, this is a leftist who has our political enemy who's trying to destroy us.
	So I don't know why we would see him as a good faith actor anyway.
unidentified		So first of all, I'm not a communist, even though you assume that because I said I was a leftist.
		I mean, if you can't see behind me, I'm a leftist libertarian boss, man.
		But that's beside the point.
		Even though you see, you accuse me of assuming your intentions, and then you just end it with, oh, he's an evil leftist who wants to destroy us.
		That's not what I am.
		I'm an American.
		I just disagree with your, you know, racist assumption there.
		And I'll explain here in a second why.
		First of all, you said a lot of points there and that's fair because I said a lot.
		The reason I brought up the bell curve is because in this field of connecting IQ to race, the bell curve is like the book.
		It is the book that kind of first started this assertion that there was an IQ difference in between races.
		It's the book.
		I almost want to say it's the bible of this, you know, kind of racist field of science.
		That's why I attacked that first, because I think attacking that, and I also saw someone here hold up their copy of the bell curve, like very proud, that's why I attacked that.
		Second, The reason that I don't think it's true that if you challenge the liberal consensus, you're going to get outlawed.
		The people that wrote the bell curve became millionaires.
		They got like hundreds of times more media attention and money than just someone who would have agreed with the consensus.
		This notion that disagreeing with the liberals will ruin your life or cause you cause like a negative effect is just completely untrue.
		I don't know where that comes from.
		If anything, creating a controversial opinion that makes you stand out and appeals to a certain group of people, racist people, will make you money.
		It will get you attention.
		And if anything, it will help your career more than it will hurt it.
		Because going against the consensus gets more attention than agreeing with it.
		Like there's not a newspaper article written, water is discovered to be wet.
		Like no one, like, okay, yeah.
		No one cares if you find an agreement.
		If anything, the opposite is true.
		If anything, your career gets made by creating this controversial topic.
		So I disagree with your assertion that all scientists and all the researchers fake data because it would hurt them in some way and cause a negative effect if they dare to disagree with the liberals.
		And I think that's a very common misconception.
		And when you look at real data, you see that that's not true.
		And just thinking about it logically, like if someone told you a controversial opinion, that would get your attention.
		If someone told you a non-controversial opinion, that wouldn't matter.
		And finally, when I said that a lot of people disagreed, I didn't just say a lot of people disagreed.
		I said the scientific community disagreed.
		As in the actual facts and data that we've compiled does not agree with the conclusions presented in the bell curve.
		And it does not agree.
		With the conclusion that there is a significant genetically caused IQ difference between races of people.
		It does not agree.
		I'm not simply saying that.
		Oh, a bunch of people said, said, no, that's not what I'm saying.
		I'm saying a bunch of scientists, a bunch of reputable people, facts, data, and logic all disagree with that.
		It's not just people.
		And I think it is kind of disingenuous of you to generalize the entire scientific community.
		And this wealth of knowledge and data that we have that disagrees with you as just simply biased and then ignore it.
		And the reason I said you worked backward is because if you hadn't worked backwards from the assumption that certain races are inferior.
		If you hadn't worked backwards from that assumption.
		Sorry, let me.
		Inferior when it comes to intelligence.
		Is that fair?
		As in below?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not really, but go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
		Lower IQ scores on average among races.
		Is that fair?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		So if you work from that assumption and then go backwards, you would arrive where you are and you supporting things like, uh, Robert, whatever his last name is and the bell curve.
		But if you had started and taken a look at the whole range of data that we have and whole range of studies that we have.
		You would come to the exact opposite conclusion because the simple fact of the matter is, and there has been polling that's been done on this among anthropologists, among psychologists, among all these different scientific communities, and a majority of them always say that your opinion is wrong and that your opinion is based on bad data that is simply not true and heavily biased.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is an appeal to authority.
unidentified		Oh really?
unidentified		People that are not geneticists?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		People that are not IQ specialists?
unidentified		I don't care about your anthropologists.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I care about people that are experts in genetics and IQ.
		And I'm waiting to hear this wealth of... Wait, wait, wait.
		I'm waiting to hear about this wealth of data.
		I mean, you said like, oh, well, a bunch of guys said it's bullshit.
		So case closed.
		I'm waiting to hear this data.
		But in any case, But in any case, the point which I'm trying to make, which I guess we've moved on to now, is that of course, of course, people get excoriated if they come up with the wrong conclusions.
		And I've heard this throughout my whole life.
		People have told me, well, I'm getting, like, banned from PayPal, I'm getting banned from YouTube, I'm getting death threats, I'm gonna go all- People are telling me all throughout this, That I'm benefiting from that.
		Oh, you're benefiting.
		You're just gaining from this controversy.
		It's like, yeah, I can't go in public without somebody, unless somebody attacked me or something.
		I get kicked out of CPAC.
		People try to ruin my life.
		People try to dox my address, et cetera, et cetera.
		Oh, but I'm just doing so great.
		I love that.
		No, of course not.
		And you could document many cases of people.
		that have said heterodox things about science and they've got their lizers.
		James Watson was the example I brought up.
		James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA, has all his honorary titles and Nobel Prize revoked because he says he suggested that there could be a genetic link between race and IQ.
		And as obvious as it was incorrect, because you can disagree in science, it was because it was politically incorrect.
		And that has happened to most of the people I know.
		Jared Taylor, that happened to Sam Francis, Peter Brimelow.
		Sam Francis was one of the best writers at the Washington Times, until he started to talk about white identity politics.
		And then he got fired, and nobody wanted to hire him, and he couldn't make any money, and he died like porn alone.
		And this happens to many people that tell the truth.
		And liberals are the first one to acknowledge this when it's like Galileo.
		Remember when the church oppressed all the scientists?
		But now, oh no no, there's no church anymore.
		Anybody can say whatever they want.
		Unless they say something we don't like.
		So I'm, you know, that is just ridiculous.
		I don't even know why you would contest that.
		And in any case, the data...
		is overwhelmingly on the side of genetic basis for race.
		And like I said, I didn't know we were coming to a debate on race and IQ, so I don't have the paperwork in front of me.
		So it's foolish to carry on this.
		Well, I heard from this poll that these scientists said that this methodology is bad.
		And I say, well, I read something that said X, Y, and Z. We could do a debate about race and IQ.
		We can set that up and you can come with your papers and I can come with mine.
		We could debate about general intelligence.
		But until that point, I mean, you're just a liberal, so.
unidentified		We're talking about immigration.
		We're talking about the cost of deportation.
		into the IQ debate as far as like deciding like racial differences.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about the cost of deportation.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how that factors.
unidentified		Let me hit my man.
		I wasn't here to do 2020 with something real quick.
		When you were saying how it makes their careers, even though they're not bashed, you can still be famous for being hated.
		You know what I mean?
		You can still say notoriety is still very much a thing.
		Charles A.
		Murray, right?
		I mean, who, okay.
		Who wrote the bell curve, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Charles Murray.
unidentified		Charles A. Murray, right?
unidentified		You know how many places protest him for coming to a certain thing?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
unidentified		I'm not jumping on to support Mr. Fuentes here.
		I'm not jumping on to support anybody.
		I'm just saying what you said about people having their careers made.
		You can be infamous and you can be very, very well known for being hated.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's not what you think, my friend.
		It's not what you think.
		Trust me.
		Everybody says that from the outside looking in, but it's not what you think.
		And ask anybody in this room.
		Ask anybody in this room.
		I bet you, maybe a lot of people watching this or in this room might agree with me, but they'll never say it because it would go against their career.
		So people can say that, but they don't act like it.
unidentified		Or they might just disagree with you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, certainly there are people that disagree.
		And there are people that disagree.
		I didn't say everybody.
unidentified		Not everybody agrees on everything either, dude.
		Like, that's just how the world's going to work.
		Oh yeah, that's fine.
		Disagreement is how we move forward.
		Alright, so yeah.
		It was a good question, but like, we do want to move on to a different topic.
		We've been on this topic for a while now.
		You got a couple of rebuttals in there, so.
		There's a question this guy's been raising his hand since the beginning.
		It's about race and intelligence.
		Please don't ask if it's been talked about for a long time.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Let's move on to a different topic.
		Or if it's about dolphins.
		Bro, what is with y'all and dolphins?
		Can someone explain that?
		No, no, no, don't do that.
		Someone will be explaining the dolphins' rights.
		We would've just been here last night.
		Gabby, Gabby.
		What is with the dolphins?
		I'll explain it tomorrow in a video.
		I'll expose dolphins tomorrow.
		They're asking us to talk about LGBTQ rights.
		Gabby, you're up.
		Hang on, hang on, hang on.
		Who, Matt?
		Who, Matt?
		Imagine having rights.
		Okay.
		Are we taking a question?
		What's going on, Matt?
		Someone said, can we just talk about LGBTQ rights?
		I mean, there's those things as human rights, and I think some people that- I just realized my mic's been muted.
		I think people that morally, I don't agree with any of that stuff, but I'm not going to, you know, mean to just because of it.
		Now, if you're in my face about it and you're thinking you should fundamentally change certain things of the law to curve to maybe an advantage towards you, then that's where we're going to have a problem.
		Morality aside, you know, You can't just almost, like, almost get out of control with it and have more advantages than there are, uh, straight, whatever, cis, whatever you want to call people that aren't, you know, of, or support that or, um, are in that community.
		So that's where I would stand on the rights.
		I think everyone should have human equal rights and I think they do, but people also have the right to refuse things because of what an organization or what people belong to.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if I'm like a... I don't know.
		If I'm like a drug abuser, you could probably fire me for being a drug abuser.
		I'm a self-identified heroin addict.
		Like, okay, you're fired, you know?
unidentified		But you're not always a drug abuser, right?
unidentified		Like, you can get help, you can go to, like, you know, counseling and whatnot.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but I can fire you from your job.
unidentified		You can remedy flaws within your behavior to make yourself a better person, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I agree, and homosexuals can stop having homosexual sex.
unidentified		But like, part of your identity is something that is unchangeable, right?
		Well, one is arbitrary.
		One is arbitrary.
		One at a time.
		One at a time.
		Yeah, listen, talking over each other is not getting anything accomplished.
		I agree.
		Let's do this.
		Was that question directed toward Nicholas?
		Is that what that was?
		That was directed towards Christian?
		It was just for everyone.
		It was for him?
		Okay.
		We can go first and then we'll go from there, there, there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So what's the question?
unidentified		If you message me or any other co-hosts, I'll unmute you because you have a good question.
		You don't have your hand raised, dog.
		I'm not going to unmute you.
		I'm not going to look at the messages.
		I'm sorry.
		I mean, I'm going to... Right now, we are purely basing the hand raises on who raised their hand first.
		There's a literal list that we can look down at who's on top of what.
		Yeah, let's unmute Rylan.
		Rylan's had his hand raised from the beginning.
		Hold on.
		We'll let Nick... Let Nicholas answer the question and then we can do that.
		Then we can move on.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So what exactly was the question?
		How, what if your behavior is your identity?
		Is that right?
unidentified		Basically, it's sexuality choice.
		There you go.
		Separation between behavior and identity, right?
		Behavior can be changed.
		Your identity is constant.
		Basically, it's sexuality choice.
		There you go.
		Sexuality isn't a choice.
		We know that objectively.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I would not contest that people's preferences arise from unconscious factors or involuntary factors.
		But, you know, whether or not to act on them is a choice.
		And so we're talking about, you know, homosexual is, you know, the same sex attracted person is different than someone who engages in homosexual sex.
		And so that's a distinction I would make.
		And under that, I mean, I mean, everybody should have legal protections if you're attracted to whoever or whatever.
		But the question becomes when you act and when you act, then it's different.
unidentified		Yeah, but couldn't you apply that to gender as well?
		And, like, sex?
		Like, you know, your identity is male, but, you know, you can kind of choose if you want to act on it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You don't choose to be a woman.
unidentified		Um, sure, but you can choose if you want to act in the societal way that women are portrayed, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But woman is not an action.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Homosexual sex is an action.
unidentified		Um, sure, but generally, like, we would agree that there's a societal consensus surrounding, like, gender roles and gender norms, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And so, if you want to... Yeah, and one can, uh, choose to wear a dress or wear a shirt, but that's not being a man or a woman.
unidentified		So then doesn't the argument kind of, like, logically follow, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't believe that gender and sex are different.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think gender and sex are the same thing.
unidentified		Well, they're the same thing.
		They should definitely agree with you on this, right?
		Well, then you should definitely see the flaw in your argument here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think your argument's wrong.
unidentified		My argument?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're in favor of rebellion against God.
unidentified		Well, no.
unidentified		The thing is, your argument can literally be used in gender and sex.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think you're simping for homosexuality, which is offensive to me.
unidentified		If you're coming from a moral standpoint, dawg, There's going to be so many different opinions because a lot of people have different morals, so you'll never get someone to sway off of pure morals.
		Now, if you want to talk about the gender and sex difference, that is, you can say it's scientifical, it is definitely a very moral question, so you're never going to get someone to disagree if they have different morals, unless you can really sway them, you're not going to get someone to really 100% disagree if you just come head first with the morality Wait, so Nicholas, do you just think if people are homosexual, they should just not act on that?
		And just have sex with them?
		They should just suck it up?
		You can put the same thought about religious values and all of that.
		I think about so many different things.
		It's like a slippery slope right there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I believe that people should obey God.
unidentified		Can I say something?
unidentified		But not everyone is Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not everyone has your same beliefs.
unidentified		Not everyone should believe what you believe.
		That's the freedom of religion.
		of religion.
		Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs.
		Can I say something?
		If people start talking over one another, we're just going to start muting people because it's not accomplishing anything.
		I'm not triggered.
		I just want to say, like, as a Christian, yeah, like, I disagree with homosexuality, but it's, like, it's not up to us to decide, and we shouldn't be saying, like, like, it's not a very Christian thing to say that everyone should be Christian.
		Like, yeah, I think it's a great religion, but no, you can't tell people how to live their lives, though, you know?
		That's not up to us.
		You can't play God.
		If you are, if you are a Christian, right?
		And you read the Bible.
		And so, like I said, I'm a very strong Christian guy.
		And at the basis of homosexuality and all that great stuff, I don't fundamentally agree with it.
		I will never agree with it.
		Now, does that mean I'm going to be mean to somebody about it?
		No, because that is a Christian thing to do.
		We're called to love everybody.
		Now, with that being said, the Bible also calls for us to spread our religion and share the news.
		So saying, wish everyone should be Christian and that everyone should be Christian, that is a very biblical belief.
		So saying that it doesn't tell you to do that is you need to read the Bible a little bit more dog.
		I'm telling you it's in there.
		But now does that mean that we need to be disrespectful to people?
		No, because that's what I mean.
		It's like the way he's coming about it is disrespectful.
		That's just, that's what I'm trying to say.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		How am I disrespectful?
unidentified		He's coming at it from a point of, this is what I believe, right?
		If you're going to challenge my beliefs, I'm going to tell you, no, I don't believe that.
		This is what I believe.
		That's a, that's a morality thing.
		Here's my question.
		You believe that everybody should be a Christian, right?
		So do you think that that should be lawfully enforced, or do you think that just you have pride in your Christian belief, therefore you think that other people should be Christians?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, what does enforcement look like?
		Because, you know, I think there are laws, like in Russia, which make a lot of sense.
		You know, I think, like, decency laws would be great.
		I think that regardless of whether or not... But those are moral.
unidentified		Those are moral.
		Like, that's a moral thing, not a Christian thing.
		A lot of our laws come from morals, though.
		But we need separation of church and state, obviously.
		I'm not religious whatsoever in any form or manner, but I share morals with most Christians that I know.
		Most of our laws come from a moral standpoint of a Christian.
		That's just how we were.
		I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong.
		I'm just saying in the basic sense of our law and how society views certain things, a lot of the morals in America come from Christian values.
		We were founded by Christians.
		So Nick, can I address something real quick with the statement that you made?
		Protestants.
		And Christians at the basis, true Catholic and Protestant and Baptist, at the fundamental level, they're Christian.
		That's all I'm going to say.
		I'm not – Amen.
		What's the question again?
		Okay, so Nick, can I address something real quick with the statement that you made?
		Because I do take my Christian faith very seriously.
		And with my political values, I try not to make the assumption that my political values have to be based upon my religion.
		Um, so here, here's the truth that we need to understand as Christians.
		And this is talking to them from a Christian standpoint is that.
		We are supposed to teach, we're not supposed to direct.
		So, by saying that everybody needs to be Christian, by saying that everybody has to be straight, that's not, you know, I'm trying to, we're doing a totally different thing than us just trying to say that, you know, okay, we don't agree with that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But it is an imperative that, I mean, if you're a Christian, you're, I mean, we are the body of the Church.
		And so, it's not like this, you know, I'm Catholic, and I know, you know, it is, broadly speaking, a Christian country, which we just went over, but the Catholic interpretation is that it's not just about the salvation of the individual, but the collective salvation.
		I'm kidding.
		I'm joking.
		everybody else to be Christian.
		Now, that doesn't mean I want the government to say, oh, you're not Christian?
		Jail.
		I mean, well, maybe that would be nice, but I don't think that, I don't want that to happen.
		I'm not advocating for that.
unidentified		That was a joke.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm kidding.
		I'm joking.
		Everybody relax.
		The point I'm trying to make is that we are called to say that, I mean, yes, if you're Christian, you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and everybody ought to I'm not saying, like, I'm going to force you to be.
		I'm just saying, look, I believe.
		And if you believe, you take it seriously.
		A lot of Christians are very fair-weather, and they say, I'm Christian like it's a hobby, like you're a fisherman or something.
		It's like, no, you know, if God is real and Jesus is his son, then everybody should be on board.
		And we want everybody to be on board.
		And there comes at that some seriousness.
		And that means that people are doing bad things, especially children.
		We should not let them go astray like that.
		And that particularly comes with decency laws.
		Decency laws are required because who is most affected by this kind of stuff?
		It's children.
		It's children being exposed to pornography.
		It's children being exposed to adultery.
		Children being exposed to homosexuality.
		And their souls are damned to hell based on something they had no choice in.
		Based on something that was broadcast on the internet or television.
		And the government must step up and protect them.
unidentified		I thought you said that people have a choice to act based upon their identities.
unidentified		What do you mean they don't have a choice, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Can you repeat the question?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of doing this rambling autism thing.
unidentified		Can you repeat it clearly, please?
		Okay, so Nick, you said earlier it's a choice if you wish to act upon your identity, right?
		And I think we both agree that gay people don't choose to be gay, right?
		So then why are you looking at people and saying, oh man, these children are witnessing these degenerate acts and it's going to have some profound negative impact on them if they see a gay man kissing or holding hands, right?
		But in reality, Like, it's not going to impact whether or not they're gay.
		Of course it does.
		I don't agree with that statement, Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that they might become same-sex attracted, but maybe same-sex attracted people or people leaning that way might think it's appropriate to follow through on those things.
		You normalize certain things.
		It's in the same way that And it objectifies females as well.
		Adultery doesn't – or rather pornography doesn't make people want to have sex with women.
		Maybe they already want to have sex with women, or maybe they already want to master.
		But when it's there, it encourages and normalizes people acting on bad impulses.
unidentified		And it objectifies females as well.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's horrible.
unidentified		So look, he's answering the question – Nicholas is answering the question from his Christian side, as a lot of us are from our moral standpoints.
		So when he didn't say the thing, he's like, oh, he's being hateful, but that's just what he believes.
		I just want to know, do you believe Jesus was black?
		No, I believe Jesus was white.
		It doesn't matter.
		It doesn't matter if Jesus was Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern.
		It doesn't matter what he was.
		It sounds like you're joking.
		Middle Eastern.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Middle Eastern.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm messing with you, bro.
unidentified		It's just a joke.
		It doesn't matter if Jesus was Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern.
		It doesn't matter what he was.
		Amen, Luke.
		It sounds like you're joking.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Middle Eastern.
unidentified		Middle Eastern.
		He was Middle Eastern, though.
		According to him, I guess it would matter.
		Caucasian and white, I share a little two different things.
		I mean, there are multiple versions of being Caucasian.
		What is this man doing? - Oh no, take that video off, bro.
		Take that video off.
		According to Nicholas, he had more quality.
		Take that video off.
		Stop his video recording.
		He genetically had a lower IQ, right?
		He had more melanin, he had darker skin, so he had a lower IQ.
		He did this, right?
		We're past that argument.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		He's the son of God.
		I think his IQ is pretty high, actually.
unidentified		Bro, how does he keep getting on my main screen?
		Madeline, Madeline, Jesus Christ.
		It's because Maddie is objectifying men.
		I go to gallery view and this guy just pops up every two minutes.
		I don't think it's Maddie.
		I'm literally on my phone the whole time.
		Well guess who's co-host?
		He and Fatty.
		And me and Fatty are putting Tommy on the screen.
		It's not me.
		I'm dipping!
		What do you mean?
		I'm doing the Spiderman onesie.
		Tommy, I love you too!
		It's okay though, you can't get on the screen.
		I may have brought him here.
		I don't know.
		I mean, it's a good question.
		You just, the problem with when people ask that question is you're not going to, unless someone, when someone's really strong in their morals, they're just not going to budge.
		I mean, I'm the same way.
		I'm not going to budge.
		Like Nick's argument, right?
		Like it can be extended to like anything.
		And in reality, like, even if like something is normalized within our culture, I mean, we'd make the same argument.
		People still act based upon their impulses.
		So therefore, like, you know, there's still, it's like, it's no bueno, right?
		I mean, you can disagree with the Christians on a fundamental level, so here's the thing I'm going to say.
		You can say, you know, you can bring up all these arguments, that's cool.
		Would you rather have us Christians disagree with you on a moral level and really say we want to take action but we're not, or you want to go over to the Middle East where gays are being thrown off of roofs and hung from trees?
		Well, the thing is, right, if Christians get to the level where they have control of, like, you know, and they implement, like, biblical law, it could potentially get to that level, right, like in the Middle East, like the biblical books are pretty similar.
		No, yes.
		No Christian in this call is saying we should kill gay people.
		No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.
		We're all equal.
		Okay, so in the Old Testament, what you're talking about is Leviticus 20, 15, or 13?
		2013.
		13, yeah, okay.
		Yeah, if a man lays with another man, as a man lays with... Abomination to God.
		Can't that be interpreted as boy and pedophilia?
		Wait, hold up.
		No, hold on.
		There's different interpretations of it.
		Hold on, hold on, hold on.
		That is Old Testament stuff.
		Now, a lot of people say, well, that some Christians say Old Testament doesn't matter.
		Can I step in?
		Yeah.
		Yeah, let Luke step in.
		Okay.
		So there's moral laws and ceremonial laws in the Bible.
		Moral laws, like that includes adultery, idolatry, lying, stealing, blasphemy, and homosexuality.
		Those are moral laws in the Bible.
		Then there's ceremonial laws in the Bible, such as eating pork.
		There's sacrificial laws.
		There's dietary laws, wearing wool and linen in the same fabric.
		Yeah, there's a whole lot more.
		There's a whole lot more.
		And the ceremonial laws are the ones that went away when Jesus died on the cross.
		Those are the ones that went away.
		We're not connected to those anymore.
		But the moral laws are the laws that stand with us forever.
		So that argument is completely false when it comes to them saying, oh, it's Old Testament law.
		That doesn't matter anymore.
		I would like to point out, though, that in Hebrew, the same word translated as abomination in Leviticus 22.18 is the same word, the abomination that is used for something like growing the same crop side by side.
	So if that is an abomination as well as growing the same crop side by side or wearing...
	That's not a moral law.
	But it is a moral law.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Look, the problem you have with translating the Bible is because of the languages it was written in.
	A lot of them have a bunch of different words.
	There's a Bible, the verse in the Bible that a lot of people use to justify slavery back in the day was something about slaves should obey their master.
	Slave also means the same thing in the Bible as bond servant.
	Bond servant also means same thing as an indentured servant.
	Not in the fact of slavery as in like how we had slaves, you know what I mean?
	So there are, hold on, I'm trying to do this.
	There are a couple of different things that you can have trouble with when you're translating it from one language to another.
	I mean, here's the thing that, you know, we can, you know, you can have, you can try to discredit the Bible if you would like, you know, because you disagree with it or something like that.
	And that's fine.
	Um, it's, it's, it's just, it's our moral code based upon our religion.
	And so, you know, we're going to, we're going to follow our moral code.
	We're going to follow our religion.
	However, the only part I disagree with Nick on this factor is just.
	I personally believe God gave man free will.
	It's not our job to direct people what they should and shouldn't be doing.
	You can do what you choose to do.
	However, me and you are going to face the, you know, we're going to have to face God and we're going to have to face judgment for the sins that we commit.
	And so, you know, I'm not going to force you to act a certain way.
	However, you're going to have to, you know, face judgment just like I do.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to force anybody.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I never said that.
unidentified		I was raised in a Christian household and I think that Christian morals are definitely good morals.
		I share morals.
		My morals pretty well aligned with Christian morals.
		However, I don't, I think there's a difference between having pride in your religion and wanting others to practice your religion and thinking that everybody needs to practice your religion.
		I think those are two completely different things.
		Every religion thinks that everyone should practice their religion.
		There's different ways that they go about it.
		Christians tend to... But this country is founded on the idea that not everybody should be forced to practice the same religion.
		We're not about to be forced, nobody's talking about forced.
		Any religion would want the entire world to practice their... Islam would want the entire world to be Muslim.
		Buddhists would want the entire world to be Buddhist.
		So on and so forth.
		Now, Like I said, every religion thinks that every religion, there are some extremists in every religion that be like, look, we need to enforce this.
		It needs to be a law.
		Now, that's not speaking for the majority of people, but if you are strong in your morals, it would make sense as to why you would think this needs to be enforced, right?
		You think everyone should, you would think everyone needs to follow this.
		Why aren't they all doing this?
		God, if you're a Christian God, like he said, God gave everybody free will.
		Now, do we share the news and try and bring up as many believers as we can?
		Yeah.
		But we're also called to know that we have, that have free will, we're also called to love our neighbor as ourselves.
		So at the same time, you can't take that to be hateful towards someone else, you know what I mean?
		Yeah, yeah, I understand you.
		I have an interesting question I think for Nick, and it kind of relates to like the normalization like gay culture and whatnot.
		I guess my question is like, you know, No, this normalization of gay culture- I'm lagging a second.
		Alright, I'm back.
		Anyway, like, if this normalization of gay culture is- it wouldn't be good because, like, people were able to resist it, right?
		Those who are strong and worthy in the way of God are more- like, those people who we know are, like, you know, good with God are gonna make it into heaven and those who are degenerate won't, right?
		So wouldn't you want this normalization to ensure that those who are strong enough to resist The degeneracy will go to heaven.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
unidentified		Oh, you do.
unidentified		You do know what I'm talking about.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea what you're talking about.
unidentified		I'll answer that one.
		No, wait, wait.
		It was addressed to me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the question... I mean, maybe you're talking about the elect or something.
		I don't know.
		I mean, I'm a Christian.
		I believe in free will.
		People can choose to sin.
		They can choose to confess.
		And how does it let down that path?
		Hey, can you let me finish?
		Can you let me finish with this guy over here with the interruptions?
		Free for all, all of a sudden.
unidentified		Wow, wow.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		To the point, though, people have a choice whether or not they want to sin or whether they want to not to sin.
		The thing about sin, though, is that it's addictive.
		I mean, that's the problem, particularly pornography, a lot of these things, and it is difficult.
		We do not start out together with God, right?
		Because of Because of our fallen nature, it is in our nature to go away from God.
		And if things exacerbate that, or facilitate that, or push us down that path, it's going to be a lot harder to come back to God.
		People that, if you're a young kid, and you grow up watching Glee or modern family or pornography or whatever and you think that certain things are acceptable or okay, and you start down on that path It's a lot harder to find your way back We want people to never leave want people to stay with God with the church and so on not stray and so in order to protect those people we absolutely need decency laws we're not talking about like A theocratic kind of a thing.
		But you look in Russia and they just have reasonable standards on what is and what is not permitted.
		This is not crazy.
		They have laws in the world where they ban pornography.
		They have laws in the world where they ban indecent things on television.
		And people can find ways around that if they're total deviants.
		You know, people can do what they want inside their homes, but what's happening now is people are not doing it in their homes.
		Under the aegis, they say, well, people can do what they want in their bedrooms, but it's not in their bedrooms anymore.
		It's in public schools.
		It's on the Super Bowl.
		It's on TV.
		It's in libraries.
		It's in the parades.
		They're walking down the streets.
		That's not in the privacy of your own home.
		That's not your bedroom.
		That's the public square.
		And I think we should keep the public square relatively safe and normal and keep to that Christian core.
unidentified		I mean, on the fact of decency laws, like, I get that.
		I mean, if you look at, like, Japanese, they censor about everything, man.
		And I would argue that they're not 100%.
		I mean, they're not as nowhere as Christian as American is, or America is, you know what I mean?
		Like, so they censor everything.
		Yeah, they're not Christian at all.
		It's like, I mean, they censor, I mean, everything.
		So it's China in terms of inappropriate images.
		So, Can I respond to Nick real quick?
		Yeah, you can.
		Alright, so as a Christian, I feel like if people are too weak to resist this degenerate culture, with free will and whatnot, then I don't think we want them in heaven, right?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're getting at here.
		Sounds like a very mean, malicious, bad faith argument.
		I'm not sure what you're getting at.
unidentified		That's not Catholic doctrine.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
unidentified		Are you saying that, okay, so let me see if I can try and word this question, and again, tell me if I'm wrong, because I don't want to put words in your mouth or try and take over what you're saying, but are you saying that for those people, like, okay, Degenerates are too weak to... Okay, Adolf Hitler, right?
		Let's say that.
		You wouldn't want him to be in, you know, heaven with me, right?
		You wouldn't want him to be your next-door neighbor and share the same crown as you do, right?
		Is it something along those lines?
		Like, why, at the end of the day, you feel like it's almost a cheat code where if, at the end of the day, like right before you die, it's like, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
		And then, like, all of a sudden, oh, well, he's in heaven, but didn't he mass kill a bunch of people?
		You know what I mean?
		Is that sort of what you're saying?
		Or if I'm wrong, like I said, tell me.
		No, I guess, like, my argument is, like, Nick is saying that we need to protect people from, like, the normalization of this culture because it will undermine their capacity to go to heaven, right?
		Well, I think if their capacity is going to be undermined and they're not strong enough to the will of God, then they probably shouldn't get a ticket into heaven in the first place.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is that your belief, or are you being funny?
unidentified		It's my belief, as a Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're a Christian?
unidentified		Yes, I am a Christian.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So you want people to sin and then go to hell, you think?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What kind of Christianity is that?
unidentified		Well, I mean, it's called Christianity for those who withstand the morals of God.
		But Jesus knows that we're going to sin, right?
		He knows that.
		That's why we sent Jesus Christ as a sacrificial lamb down to take away all those future sins.
		You know what I mean?
		Like people, people are going to sin.
		People are going to do terrible things.
		But I mean, like I said, we're washed as the Bible says, we're washed in the blood of Christ.
		Now, is that a free pass to go and do whatever?
		You know what I mean?
		Like, okay, I'm washing the blood of Christ.
		I'm gonna go to, I'm gonna go down to the, uh, you know, the whatever popular, like, okay, we'll go down to the arcade and kill a bunch of people.
		And then, oh, I'm still good though.
		Like, no, you're still gonna have to answer for that.
		Why are you killing people in the arcade?
		You have to, you have to have repentant faith in Jesus.
		You don't have, you don't have the DNA for that, so don't worry about it.
		I don't know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Genetically not predisposed.
unidentified		I kid you.
		I don't care.
		I kid you.
		Yeah, that's the first time we heard that all night.
		I know, right?
		What is it?
		Alright, so Nick, I'm not sure how much more time you have, but we do want to try to get a few more audience questions, I guess.
		I have a question for Nick, actually.
		Who's that?
		Ben.
		So Nick, as a fellow Christian, Matthew 7-3 says, why do you look at the speck in your neighbor's eye, but ignore the plank in your own eye?
		So, as Christians, we are told to focus on our own sins more than to focus on others.
		So, why are you so for condemning gays and stuff when Jesus literally tells us that we should be focusing on ourselves more than focusing on other sins?
		I don't know where... Judge righteously.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this idea that we're like... I'm saying one thing and people are hearing something else.
		I'm saying, well, no, no, Jesus says this is wrong, this is, you know, what is right and what is wrong.
		I'm non-denominational.
unidentified		them you want to force your religion i'm saying we want converts and we want people to play by the rules that's all i'm saying and he never said that his sin was less than anybody else's either not everybody agrees with your rules our sins are equal i'm catholic we believe in mortal and venial sins but nevertheless i mean i'm i'm i'm just a christian most i'm non-denominational but it's just what it is all right i see there's a person here named chris that's on their hands but for a little bit so we're gonna just let them talk because i think we have a question hey uh yeah
		there's like the people in the rating room don't have names uh yeah i saw that guy too it's just one guy though i'm sure it's like all right well it's full anyway so they can't come in here anyways no so um i have sort of um something to respond to what christians uh said about people not deserving to go to heaven um i'm I'm pretty sure.
		I don't know if we're reading the same Bible here, but if your god thinks that...
		It's okay for just people to burn in hell just because?
		Because like, God loves all of his children and he weeps for every soul damned to hell.
		He wants everyone to come with him in the kingdom of heaven.
		If you think that God is happy that those people are going to hell, then you're wrong.
		You're wrong.
		God wants everyone to repent for their sins and join him in the kingdom of heaven.
		If you think that these people deserve to go down to hell for sinning, And, you know, if we're being exposed to sin, or being predisposed to it, then that's... I just think that's disgusting, you know, in my personal opinion.
		I never said personally that I believe God laughs when people go to hell.
		No, you're right.
		Yeah, he wants everybody to come to heaven.
		I don't... Like, I could have missed it.
		I could have missed it where... Very good faith and civil tactics, I see there.
		I couldn't I could I kind of missed it where I mean you could tell me who said that like I never caught myself or never even said that I think God laughs when people go to hell no I mean we all I mean me as a Christian I don't know I can I feel like I can speak for a lot of Christians in here I believe that we would want a lot of other people we would want everybody to go to heaven right we want to share the gospel and and let people know that look This is your way to come and get in heaven.
		Now, will they have to answer for the sins that they have done?
		Yes.
		In the Bible, we talk about, obviously they're, you know, we're getting into some deep revelation stuff now, but will we all have like, you know, like crowns in heaven and then people will have different jewels in their crowns and whatnot, depending on, you know, what they did down here, you know, you know, yes.
		I think there's been a bit of a misunderstanding.
		I meant Christian, the person who was, who was, um, talking to Nick earlier, who said that people being predisposed to sin can't, People who are predisposed to sin and can't resist it deserve to go to hell.
		I just think that's, like, completely backwards and wrong.
		And I don't think that you're a proper Christian if you don't think God wants all of his children to be with him in heaven.
		Yeah, you said Christian, and then I was like... Nah, yeah, I meant the guy named... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He's waving down in there on the bottom.
		We're on the same point then.
		It looks like him and Will are trying to scream.
		I think I would like to get to more, like, other points other than just, like, battling who's the better Christian over here.
		Yeah, I want to talk to some other people as well.
		Hold on, wait.
		Hang on, pause.
		questions that people ask who's asking their question go ahead Jordan Jordan was talking.
		Jesus Christ, what is that?
		Oh, I was just gonna say that, like, I feel like we've talked about a bunch of social issues.
		I feel like we should switch more towards, like, economic issues and how you feel on those.
		I don't have any specific questions, but I was just wondering your perspective on that.
		I have a question.
		So, if people have questions on those, I'd recommend them.
		I know, like, not all of you are, but a lot of you guys care so much about someone's religion, and I don't understand why.
		Like, personally, I don't give a fuck what your religion is.
		I care about the economic values.
		I care about the political things.
		At the end of the day, don't get me wrong, I'm a Catholic, but why do you guys care so much?
		I mean, isn't it better to expand the audience?
		Just my interpretation, it's my interpretation of my belief in the Bible.
		You know, I do care a lot about Christianity.
		Honestly, in my opinion, it's definitely God over politics any time.
		You know what I mean?
		So yeah, like, or God over honestly anything, you know?
		So, I definitely believe, like, I care a lot about Christianity more.
		I care a lot about a lot of other things, because I think Christianity can speak on a lot of different things that are going on.
		But, like, specifically for politics, like, I get, like, you know, defending church and stuff.
		Don't get me wrong, I'm completely behind it all.
		Right.
		But, specifically, like, Nick, I don't want to misconstrue you, so don't let me, like, say something incorrect, but aren't you more so trying to focus on a base that's Christian rather than expanding into other backgrounds?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Um, well, I don't really look at it like that.
		I'm not like a politician.
		So I'm not like, you know, looking at different groups.
		I mean, I put my message out there and it's a Christian message.
		And a lot of people actually that watch my show are people that were formerly atheists.
		And because I talk a lot about Christianity and why I'm Christian, they end up converting or they end up becoming Catholic or whatever.
		So I think that my message appeals to Anybody who thinks about existential questions.
		I give my perspective as a Christian on how I arrive at certain conclusions or whatever, but it's not really directed.
		It's probably actually not directed at Christians, because there's a lot of Christians that know way more about the Bible or way more about history and theology than I do.
unidentified		So, I would say that it's actually- So, like, to be clear, you don't care about, like, anyone of any different religion, or, like, atheists, like, who stay atheists, who, like, support you and are behind your movement, and you'd be like, alright, cool, join me?
		I'm just curious because like I've heard some things about you where you only want Christian people and like don't get me wrong I met you in person and everyone told me you were racist and stuff and I was like this guy doesn't seem racist I mean I'm a nice guy.
		I like everybody, but I don't know what you mean by like... That was in my video I got with you, but like, I was just curious about that, because like, I think it's stupid for people to try to only have Christians in the Republican Party or conservative movements.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, no, I wouldn't say that we only want... I mean, we want as many people as would support.
		I mean, I think because I'm a Christian, my message appeals to Christians, you know, just like conservatives would want conservatives, but I mean, of course, if people want to put America first and they happen to be of a different religion, then I'm not going to say, no, no, you know, be a liberal.
		Don't watch my show.
		You know, that would be silly.
unidentified		I also think a lot of the Republican beliefs and not, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of them come from Christian beliefs as well, or at least lean a little bit off of Christian belief.
		You know, that's where I feel like it comes in a little bit.
		You know what I mean?
		Okay, alright, moving away from Christianity, because we've talked about that for quite some time now.
		Hey, does anybody actually have, because what I'm going to do here is I'm going to unraise all the hands, and if somebody actually has a policy-type question, then go ahead and raise your hand once again.
		Oh, no, never mind.
		Here, I have one.
		I have one.
		I'm going to keep that buried.
		There's Ben.
		Ben is the first person who raises his hand.
		Is this Ben from Indiana, Ben?
		Yeah, that's Indiana, Ben, I think.
		This is Indiana Schwizzy!
		What's good?
		So my question is, what do you guys think?
		We talked a couple days ago about Boeing and the bailout.
		Do you guys think it is in the right state of handling this?
		To bail out a company that was literally borrowing tons of money to complete stock buybacks to raise their share price when they've been so successful over the last 20 years with government contracts that they haven't been able to accumulate any wealth to protect themselves in case of an emergency, but continuously borrowed money to increase their stock value and their profit line for their shareholders.
		I think that comes out of like, the only reason I guess I could agree that on the, at least the keeping them like in business or whatever, increasing the stock prices is what they do with the money.
		Obviously it's probably not good, but you said they have government contracts, right?
		You know, they can pull out of those contracts and then we're going to be in some trouble.
		They also provide a lot of the majority of air travel and air transport.
		So those companies sometimes need to stay afloat for that reason.
		Other than we'll say, Oh crap.
		Well, you know, they're just trying to do that to boost their stocks.
		Yeah.
		But sometimes like in order to keep them happy and to keep them somewhere we can, they're usable.
		You got to do it.
		Sometimes it's a necessary, almost a necessary evil, but not in the same sense as, Like saying, we'll just give them all the money they ever heart's desire.
		You know what I mean?
		Well, I just want to say if it's based on that study about Bloomberg and it was almost in a sense, it was made to look like all the industries did that.
		There was really one big outlier when it came to that, it was American Airlines.
		So I just want to put that out there.
		And when we're talking about buying back stocks, most of it comes from free flow cash.
		Um, and a lot of those companies actually, after you spend money invested back into your business, whether that's, um, raises, uh, infrastructure and all those things, the money left over is what they usually use for those types of things.
		And it was really mainly American Airlines, not anybody else that was doing all those things.
		I just want to put that out there real quick.
		So it wasn't the whole industry.
		So, but if we want to do enough American Airlines, I will agree with you on that one.
		They trash.
		I don't like them anyway.
		They had me stuck in the middle.
		Hey, my dad works for them.
		Dude, I'm a big dude.
		And every time I cross like an aisle seat, I get stuck in the middle.
		So I hate American Airlines.
		Hey, I'll take it up with my dad.
		If we can change that.
		Nick has a question.
		He's been wanting to ask that for a while.
		Wait, Nick who?
		Nick.
		He's working at MIC.
		He's got his hand raised.
		Oh, Nick.
		I was like, what?
		Okay.
		Nicky, Nicky.
		Where's Mick at?
		Ben, good question though.
		I'm kind of confused.
		Where's Mick?
		Mick.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		After this one, can I take a quick bathroom break?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll do this one.
unidentified		Hold on, hold on, hold on.
		Can you think about, can you just, did Commy stay over for Christmas?
		I'm kind of concerned.
		Did what?
		Did Commy end up staying over for Christmas?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's Commy?
unidentified		Go ahead and take your bathroom break.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Cammy?
		Oh, oh, I see.
		I see you're trying to do the disingenuous game.
		That's very funny.
unidentified		Is there another question?
		You can just run to the bathroom real quick if you really need to.
		We'll be right here.
		Wait, Nick, watch this as gay.
		Whatever.
		Come on, hey, chill out, y'all.
		Oh, yeah.
		Stop.
		Like, it's disrespectful at this point, okay?
		Have a level of respect for everybody that we're gonna hold, because if we want to respect him, he's gotta respect us.
		Don't just talk over people, it's annoying.
		I totally agree.
		Listen, you know, it's- it's fine if you want to have your, you know, jokes and stuff, you know?
		But there's a time and place for all that, and if we're gonna have a discussion here, then we're gonna keep it civil.
		Right.
		He doesn't have to- he doesn't have to stay here and answer questions if we're not gonna be civil, that's the truth of it.
		Yeah, you can go take your bathroom break.
		I ain't holding it.
		Yeah, I'm gonna run.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be back in like two minutes.
unidentified		I've just been watching Gatorade here for like three hours.
		But I'll be back in a sec.
		Make sure you turn your mic off.
		We don't want to hear it.
		Alright.
		I guess we can still take questions.
		Reese, did you find Mick on the list?
		I did.
		I looked up Mick.
		Oh, M-I-K.
		I looked up M-I-C-K.
		I'd be chizzy.
		Can I ask one of the unusual Nick that's back?
		He's been bad.
		Does anyone have a question that is not related to Nick?
		While he is gone on his bathroom break, I'm going to wish all of you a good night.
		I do have work in the morning and I am like three hours past my bedtime.
		Love you, Peter Griffin.
		Thank you, Patty.
		We'll see you all around.
		See you, Steven.
		Is it 3 in the morning for y'all too?
		Oh yeah, it's 3 in the morning.
		It's 1.30.
		It's like only 11 for me.
		That's why Central Time Zone is the best time zone.
		Don't at me.
		Joseph's been in here straight chillin'.
		Yeah, Joseph's been in here straight chillin'.
		Did we still have 100 people in here?
		Wow.
		Pretty cool.
		I'm kinda, yeah, I'm kinda shocked we have 100 people in here with as late as it is, but I mean, hey, I guess Nick Fuentes... Dude, you know who I saw in here earlier?
		I don't know if he's still in here.
		I saw Hubert Gaddafi in here, brief.
		I don't know if you guys know who that is, but uh... Is Nick still here?
		I think he left.
		Yeah.
		Oh, it says he's still here.
		Nick is right over there.
		Who just messaged me, just, someone put a, someone put a vape on today.
		Nick, we cannot hear you.
		Yeah, we can't hear you, Nick.
		I see you talking, we can't hear you.
		Hey!
		I see you, Jay!
		Can't hear you, Nick.
		Other than that, how's everybody's night going?
		Other than the fact that there was a lot going on in the past.
		Nick, check your mic settings on Zoom.
		Make sure that you've got the right mic selected.
		Is that Nick's videos?
		Yeah.
		Huge fan.
		Huge fan.
		Nick, I'm a huge fan.
		I love you.
		I'll Venmo you 10 bucks.
		I'll Venmo you 10 bucks.
		Every time you bring your mic right here, it makes someone like this.
		Like, every time you...
		Vosh.
		Yeah, Nick, I got you.
		See ya, Vosh.
	Nick.
	Nick.
	Yeah, Nick, we need to have Nick versus Nick.
	Guys, guys.
	All right.
	All right.
	Can we get you guys to change your guys' background back to something that's appropriate for the discussion right now?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	We're trying to have like, you know, we try to have a civil discussions here.
	We try to give everybody respect.
	It's not acting like high school.
	I love how this dude, I love how this dude changes background to Fox News.
	Alright.
	Let's just, let's just all be chill with each other and have fun.
	Here goes, alright, here goes Mick's question towards Mr. Nicholas.
	Can you guys hear me again or am I still muted?
	Is Mick back?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Hey, can you hear me?
	Okay, alright, Nick.
	Hey Nick, big fan from Scotland.
	I've got the merch on.
	Nice, looks good.
	I had a question.
	I think I'm probably going to know what you're going to say, but it could go to the other people as well.
	Trump, throughout his presidency, has done a lot of things that are beneficial to Israel, and I want to know, not even in an Israel-Palestine sense, do you think the current state of Israel are being a good ally to the US and the West as a whole?
	That's a great question!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The answer is definitely no.
unidentified		They're not being a good ally, never have been.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And you know, we could go way back on this, and people like to go way back to like the Levon Affair, or like the USS Liberty, but we could even look at just this administration.
		I mean, I believe that one of the first press conferences that Donald Trump had with a foreign dignitary was with Benjamin Netanyahu, right after the inauguration in 2017.
		And at that press conference, Donald Trump said, And in spite of everything we've given Israel just in the last three years, which is moving the embassy and recognizing the Golan Heights, their sovereignty, calling the IRGC a terrorist group.
		them.
		And Donald Trump said, if you could stop the settlements, that would be great.
		And in spite of everything we've given Israel just in the last three years, which is moving the embassy and recognizing the Golan Heights, their sovereignty, calling the IRGC a terrorist group, I mean, the list goes on and on.
		And not only do they not stop the settlements, they expand them at the most rapid pace in history, the biggest settlement expansion ever, like a week after that press conference.
		And they bomb Syria, they bomb Iraq, they create these tensions with Syria and Iran.
		So, I mean, just in the last three years, we have the spying scandal on the White House, just a treasure trove of things.
		And that's just recently.
unidentified		But don't you see it very important that we stay allies with one of the last democracies in the Middle East?
unidentified		No.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think they should be... Well, and here's to be serious, I think they should be more worried about keeping us as an ally.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, why is it incumbent on us to pay them and give more stuff when there's no responsibility on their end to have any obligations or to be considerate of us?
unidentified		You know, I mean, it's a two-way street.
		Yeah, it should be a two-way street.
		They have responsibilities.
		We are the bigger nation.
		We can support more.
		Therefore, we can give more.
		It's not for this like one for one deal.
		And, you know, on top of that, keeping that nation a democracy and keeping that nation afloat should be a big investment of ours.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think they're doing fine.
		They got one of the best economies in the Middle East, one of the best and most sophisticated militaries in the world.
		They've got a serious defense industry in Israel, more sophisticated than most.
unidentified		Their tanks are more advanced than our Abrams.
		What's that?
		I said no.
		I mean, you're right.
		Their tanks, I think, are more technologically advanced than our Abrams are.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They're doing great over there.
		They don't need our help.
		And the thing is, maybe we could help them, but they just do nothing but slap us in the face.
		The spying, the constant antagonism of Iran and Syria.
		I mean, we are just like paying to get abused.
		At a certain point, you got to rein them in, and we used to try to do that.
		When Israel was first formed back in 48, there were presidents, successive presidents, that tried to reel them in.
		Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Reagan, I mean, they tried to reel them in, and they just gave up after a while.
		The crushing weight of the Israel lobby has made it such that nobody can oppose the state without massive retaliation, and that is not America first.
unidentified		Hey, Mick, can I ask you a question?
		Yeah, go ahead.
		Where is Scotland you from?
		I live in a place called Falkirk, which is between Edinburgh and Glasgow.
		It's like the second biggest town, but it's still pretty little.
		No, see, I got a meet over in Edinburgh.
		Did you say Edinburgh?
		It's Edinburgh.
		The way you'd say that is, oh, I've got a mate doing that, bro.
		It's not, I've got a mate doing that.
		He's working on teaching me.
		I just, you know, we've got this whole coronavirus stuff, so he's stuck there.
		So it's a little rough around the edges.
		I've been moderating on Cam's server because I have nothing else to do.
		It's 20 to 8 in the morning right now.
		I haven't slept.
		You know, it's kind of ruining the schedule.
		But that's the thing, Nick.
		I'm glad you're being, like, civil here.
		Because I don't like, you know, neocons or whatever.
		But, you know, you still gotta be civil.
		Because we all come from, you know, libertarianism.
		It's how we all get here.
		So we shouldn't always be trying to antagonize people who are more moderate.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		That's a totally, and that's a very sensible take.
		You look young and a lot of old people still don't understand this.
		People that come from our political realm, you know, they come at it with, if you're not 100% and you're, you know, whatever.
		So, yeah, you're totally right.
unidentified		We all came here from Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder.
		We all, you know.
		That's even me.
		Yeah, that's right.
		I get that.
		Relating to that.
		All right.
		Well, thank you.
		Can I ask a quick question?
		It's a yes or no for Nicholas.
		Yeah.
		Um, so, like, in past, like, YouTube videos, you semi-denied the Holocaust.
		Do you believe the Holocaust happened?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Of course I believe.
		I've never denied the Holocaust.
		I make jokes that are edgy and then people say, oh, and this is the case of everything.
		I've done, you know, more than a thousand hours of content.
		It's largely a satire comedy show and people take obvious jokes and, you know, play it up.
		Oh, he's just, you know, but I've, I've maintained this consistently that I, I don't deny that it happened.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Okay.
		I know.
		I wasn't trying to like, Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
		Alright, so let's go to Rylan.
		He's had his hand up this whole time.
		Rylan, you're unmuted.
		My guy, you've gotta learn how to raise the hand on Zoom.
		I don't know how.
		Listen, Rylan's dedicated.
		Dude fell asleep at 3.30 when I was debating commies.
		Oh, yesterday, yeah.
		Wait, did I fall asleep on the Zoom?
		Yeah, yeah.
		Oh, dang, I'm sorry.
		If I was doing it, it's my bad.
		You were like looking at the picture the whole time.
		Question for Nick Videos and then Nicholas.
		Okay.
		Nick Videos, if you got the free time at all, it would be cool if you could teach me economics or at least the basics of economics because I'm really willing to learn more.
		You said if you have the free time, he'd love to learn about economics.
		Yeah, he'd love for you to teach him about economics.
		I mean, I'll be honest with you, I'm not a master on economics.
		I mean, I know a decent amount about it, but I mean... Yeah, if you can just teach me the basics, that'd be cool.
		Isn't there a crash course economics?
		Nick, you are a master of economics.
		I mean, I know a decent amount, but I'm not like some economist.
		Like, I'm studying economics in college, but... Yeah, but this is the basics that I want to learn, you know?
		Just DM me on Instagram.
		I got you.
		Say you were from the Zoom and you want to learn about economics.
		All right, I got you, bro.
		Don't all 100 people in here start DMing me.
		Yeah, you're about to get so many DMs.
		He literally just shot his shot right now.
		Hey, look, look, look, look.
		I'll do that and Nick won't tell me who do that.
		I'll kill you, all right?
		And for Nicholas, Back to sort of the beginning of this little debate, you were talking about how we should basically, correct me if I'm wrong, but you were saying we should shut off everyone from coming into the United States.
		Yeah, yeah, immigration.
		And that's to prevent a political advantage for people overwhelmingly voting for Democrat, right?
		Oh, that's one reason, yeah.
		Well, what about people that, like, people that survive socialism?
		And more than likely, they're going to vote conservative moving into the United States.
		Do you think it should be the same for that?
		Or do you think they should come in as well?
		He did address earlier the fact that, you know, there's going to be good people that are going to want to migrate in, you know?
		Yeah, yeah.
		It's not like he's for trying to, you know, keep good people from migrating in.
		So, I mean, it's not, you know, that's not the...
		I guess, yeah, that.
		Yeah, I was only partially paying attention.
		I'm dozing out right now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		There are.
		I mean, the most obvious group is Cubans.
		And this is what a lot of people bring up is we'll say, well, Hispanics are, you know, making the country more blue and people bring up Cubans, which Cubans in Florida, it's dwindling, but they do vote majority Republican and they are considered reliably Republican.
		But of course, this is anomalous.
		I mean, the reason they vote Republican is because of the particular situation with Cuba and that immigration policy where almost all refugees just get to stay.
		Right.
		And so it's kind of a very specific situation.
		But, you know, again, it's we're talking about a confluence of different factors, economic, social, cultural, political.
		But I mean, really, immigration is indefensible from all of that.
		And you could have people that are more assimilated, people that are good for the economy.
		People might vote Republican, but broadly, mass population replacement is just, for every reason, on the whole, on the aggregate, it's no good for us.
unidentified		Would you know a Venezuelan that makes two now?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I actually don't know the statistics on Venezuelans if they vote more Republican.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I imagine they might, but I'm not 100%.
unidentified		I'm from the Philippines, and my grandma was the first one in my family to come to America.
		We're all mainly Republican.
		I don't know about anyone else, but that's just my family.
		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have that, but just on average, when you're looking at the big immigrant groups, they're, they're not, you know, so, um, and I, I'm, I'm Mexican too.
		You know, I'm a quarter Mexican.
		My father's obviously half Mexican.
		He's Republican.
		So, and you do see that.
		And that's what I, you know, people like to say, Oh, you're racist, whatever.
		It's like, no, I love people, but it's just for everybody.
		It's better if we, it's America first, not now whites first, not, you know, Christians first.
		I mean, we love Christians and everybody.
		Right.
		But we want to put our country first.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I am white as rice.
		Jordan, please have my kids.
		Wow.
		But there is such thing as brown rice.
		What are you saying, man?
		Well, no, I'm just saying, me personally, I'm as white as rice.
		I mean, dude, I'm Norse.
		All right, let's go to Oliver here.
		He's got his hand up at the top of the list.
		Oliver!
		I love Oliver.
		Okay, cool.
		What's up?
		Not so much.
		I kind of just dozed off, but I'll just shine my light on my face so you kind of see me.
		So, hey Nick, the question was kind of already asked about Israel, so I mean I'll kind of just branch off it a little bit.
		So, when it comes to like Middle Eastern policy, do you feel like the U.S.
		should really kind of like withdraw completely from the Middle East, or do you think we should have some sort of presence there?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
		I probably differ from... Like, a lot of the people who watch my show, and I fight with them all the time on this, they want total isolation.
		I'm a believer that America has interests all over the world, and we should take care of our interests.
		And if that means having a base, or protecting a trade route, I mean, that's fine.
		What we're looking at now is like an occupation of many countries, not just Afghanistan and Iraq, but you've got troops in Yemen, you've got troops in Somalia, you've got troops in Syria, still a residual force.
		So they're all over.
		And I just want the big engagements to end.
		I want the big wars to end.
		I don't think war is in our interest in the Middle East, but you know, I'm not one of these people that'll say, if there's 10 guys in Kuwait, that the president's a neocon.
		Because some people are like that.
		They'll say, we leave residual force, it's neocon.
		I mean, I'm a believer that America's a sprawling empire.
		We have interests around the globe and we should protect them, but not like this, not two ground wars at the same time, which the countries that we're going to leave will end up worse than they were before we got there.
		So that kind of stuff to me is just folly.
		But to have some presence, I think that's doable.
unidentified		Yeah, I feel like the political spectrum is almost a circle where I'm almost the opposite end as you, but I almost 100% agree with you on that.
unidentified		So, you know, always able to find common ground.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's where you get the Republican and Dem establishments are, you know, they're the ones that are wrong.
unidentified		Oh gosh.
		Yeah.
		I'd not, I don't identify with either.
		I think both parties have their serious issues and corporatism and all that, but yeah.
		So yeah, I appreciate it.
		Awesome question, Oliver.
		All right.
		So there's someone that's had their hand up for a while too.
		Sebastian Chips.
		You're muted.
		You're unmuted.
		Next one's going to be David Asher, because he's had his hand up for a really long time.
		Look at this dude that is... Never mind.
		This dude's name.
		Interesting.
		Alright, Sebastian Chip's moving on, because he's obviously not there.
		We're going to go to David.
		Yeah, David.
		Alright, David, what's up?
		We can hear you.
		Hey, I got a question for Nick Videos.
		What's up?
		Okay, so, it just...
		Maybe like a sentence.
		What's your position like on Israel?
		Like one-state solution, two-state solution, what would it be?
		See, I'm kind of conflicted on that because... Yeah, so a two-state issue, a two-state...
		You know, it would probably solve a lot of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict there.
		So like, it's good in that aspect.
		But you got to keep in mind, Israel did win the war back in the 40s.
		So I mean, that land is theirs.
		But again, you have to think about it in the way that if... Here's my real question.
		What's up?
		Real question.
		We live in America.
		Why do you care?
		Well, I care because Israel, I think that Israel is a good ally to have in the Middle East.
		Okay, but like, they're We have no other allies in the Middle East.
		Honestly, if it was up to me, I wouldn't completely remove troops out there, but I'm not a neocon.
		I agree with Nick Fuentes on this.
		I don't think that fighting a war in the Middle East right now is in our interest.
		There's no point.
		I just think only America should be alright, because I don't know why we care so much about any other country, honestly.
		Well yeah, and I'm not, see, the part that I don't agree with the Republican Party on is the Republican Party basically just shills to Israel by giving them hundreds of billions of dollars in aid, and I don't agree with that.
		That's one thing where I fundamentally disagree with the GOP on.
		So yeah.
		But I definitely think that if we are fighting wars in the Middle East like we are now, I think that it is in our interest to keep Israel our ally.
		But I don't think that giving them hundreds of billions of dollars is enough, sorry.
		Well that's the thing I have with like, pretty much left or right, it's like, I don't care what your solution is, really.
		Like, why do we even...
		Care.
		Not a problem.
		I see where you're coming from, but I mean, at this point, I think that it's in our interest right now, since we are fighting wars in the Middle East, that we need to have them as our ally.
		But if we weren't fighting wars in the Middle East, which is what I see would be the best for America and the best for just the Middle East too, we're not helping them out by doing anything.
		But yeah, if we weren't fighting wars in the Middle East, I mean, I wouldn't really care about Israel.
		I was going to go to Cole.
		I was going to go down the list of hands that we have up here.
		I was watching.
		You're fine.
		Go ahead.
		Cole, we can hear you.
		What's up?
		Thank you for unmuting me.
		I just want to say, before I answer my question.
	The America First Movement, which Nick Fuentes is a part of, is not racist in any way.
	Because if it was racist, it would be the White First Movement, and nobody is calling for that.
	As the left gets more and more radical, the right is getting much weaker and weaker, and compromising in all these positions like gay marriage, transgenders, people are saying, oh, they're not pushing for Drag Queen Sorry Hour.
	But if you see Twitter, every single day, there's an LGBT hashtag trending.
	Every single day.
	Like the American first movement's like slanderous being like homophobic this and that, but like, what are you conserving?
	If you're not like defending like the American ideals of like, you say America's not like a Christian nation, but like America was founded on natural law and like these, this stuff just goes against natural law.
	But my, my main question is like, like how are you going to call yourself a conservative?
	And support gay marriage.
	Like, that's not a conservative idea whatsoever.
	That's a neocon view.
	If you look at the 2008 Republican presidential debate, John McCain, the Republican nominee, said, I do not support gay marriage.
	Same with Joe Biden.
	It was Barack Obama, too.
	Well, I don't think it's necessarily about you conserving by supporting that.
	What are you conserving by supporting that?
	This isn't the first time I've heard this question.
	And in my opinion, I think it's just someone who's a little bit upset with the party or their people.
	And truth be told, it's these people who say, what are you conserving in your nation?
	You're letting all these people go crazy out here.
	You're not forcing people to stick to your beliefs and all that.
	And truth be told, what it comes down to is I personally see in myself, I want to see a nation that is free.
	I want to see a nation that allows people to make choices for themselves, not me telling people I think you should be doing this.
	So therefore you have to do it.
	Um, you know, and the conservative movement is in order to conserve the ideals that we see America should be not necessarily, you know, giving up because we see other nations doing this.
	So let's do the same thing.
	Um, you know, conservatives, your definition of conservative obviously might be different than my definition of conservative.
	If your definition of conservative is conserving, you know, slavery, if your definition of conservative is conserving, you know, every person has to be straight, conserving that every person has to be Christian, you know, obviously our definitions of conservative are different.
	And also, just because you don't believe in every single thing by the book that defines conservative values doesn't mean you're not a conservative.
	Just because there are certain things that you deviate on doesn't make you not a conservative.
	Hold on.
	He's muted.
	But, like, I'm not...
	I never brought up slavery, so I think that's just, like, you're trying to make me sound, like, dumb by saying, like, I want to serve slavery.
	That's ridiculous.
	There's, like, a line between being, like, a radical and, like, being, like, a normal conservative and then, like, a compromising conservative.
	Like, you're trying to pay me out as, like, an American First movement or some, like, radical thing.
	But, like, this is, like, what true conservatism, like, is.
	Like, if you go back to the 1980s and you see, like, Pat Buchanan or Ronald Reagan, like, that's what they, like, believed in.
	Like, regardless of, like, the game matters, things that that's been argued over so much.
	It's law right now, and the only thing that'll change is it's a free court, like...
	Pat Buchanan.
	bantering over it really won't do anything, but Charlie Kirk, who is arguably the figurehead of the modern conservative movement, I don't agree with that, obviously, but if you ask someone like Charlie Kirk that would say, oh, it's a conservative guy.
	Oh.
	Did you bring up, did you say James Buchanan?
	Yeah, Pat Buchanan.
	Did you know that it's highly speculated that James Buchanan was homosexual?
	Pat Buchanan.
	Oh.
	Anyway, Charlie Kirk said that he wants a staple green cards to the back of like college diplomas or like that is not conservative at all.
	Like there's people in America who are homeless, right?
	Like why are we bringing it?
	I never said, I never said I agree with Charlie Kirk.
	I think, I personally think that Charlie Kirk is, uh, is not the figure you want to be, you know, looking up to.
	But there's, there's like, uh, Nick videos.
	I think that's his name.
	He's like, it's like that we're, we're in favor of legal immigration.
	Like we want to bring in more immigrants, but when there's people in America who can't even make it themselves, why are we bringing in more people?
	I consider myself conservative, right?
	Then if you're going to say we should bring in more people to replace them, not even to replace them, just bring in more people in general, then you can't complain about jobs leaving America.
	Because at the end of the day, Americans are going to be out of jobs in both situations.
	All right.
	So one, I consider myself conservative, right?
	I'm pretty by the book conservative as you can get.
	But when it comes to immigration thing, like, do I agree?
	I'm very much against legal immigration too.
	I agree that we have a problem with immigration, but I have different ideas on how we should go about it.
	It's the same thing as Christianity.
	You can say you're Christian, but there's a bunch of different subdivisions, or obviously different versions of it, and they have different ideas on how someone should go about it.
	Just because you are Uh, conservative doesn't mean you have to go down the line of every single thing and saying someone's a bad conservative because they don't line up with every single thing is, is not, it just, that really doesn't make sense.
	You know what I mean?
	You can be conservative and deviate from some conservative ideas.
	Doesn't make you not a conservative.
	There's some, there's a bare minimum in order to be considered at least a Republican.
	So what it, what it, what it sounds like to me is that he's just like, he's wanting, he's wanting to tell us you're not worthy to be a conservative.
	You're not worthy to call yourself a conservative.
	That's what you're saying though.
	What would you say the bare minimum is then?
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	life.
	That's a non-negotiable.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Putting America's interest first, not even being a part of America's interest first, right?
	Lower foreign spending, lower taxes.
	And we all agree on lower taxes, right?
	Lower foreign spending.
	But immigration, like mass immigration, has never been a conservative or a Republican idea.
	That is a modern...
	Who's supporting mass immigration?
	I don't think anybody...
	No one's supporting...
	Your definition of mass immigration is open borders and no conservative in here is saying that we need to have open borders.
	I think a lot of us agree with Nick as far as illegal immigration goes.
	If you look at Nick videos like TikTok and he said like if anyone wants to bring it up and play it he says like we're like you can't support all the illegal immigrants right it'll cost so much money Yeah, it's estimated to cost more money than the war in Iraq.
	Are you talking about the same video that Nick Fuentes posted?
	I'm just saying that I don't think that it would be a worthwhile investment.
	Like that one video that you've watched of Nick's?
	Trump ran on that.
	Trump ran on the fact that he was going to deport the illegal immigrants.
	You're wearing a Trump hat and you're saying we can't deport them all is a contradictory statement.
	You do.
	I'm not.
	I don't know.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Yeah, no one said we have to agree with Satan.
	Do you agree?
	Every time you vote, do you agree with every single thing that politics does?
	Politics are a game of darts.
	Every single Trump rally, build the wall with Satan.
	I support the wall.
	That's what, like the whole legal immigration thing, like deporting illegal immigrants, like making- You're missing, you're missing the point here.
	We're not talking, I think that when Nick is talking, when Nick Videos is talking about disagreeing with Nick Fuentes on, um, on immigration, I don't think it's the illegal immigration policy.
	I think it's the legal immigration policy.
	Bring this man to the spotlight.
	Jesus.
	Stop putting spotlight on people.
	I just want to let you know- People are talking.
	It's not me.
	It's not me.
	It's, it's Matty.
	No, but look, I think also you're missing the point of what Nick videos might've been saying.
	I don't know.
	I really ain't watch TikToks like that, like of his, but he was talking, were you talking more of a monetary standpoint, Nick?
	I was just, I was saying that it's been estimated that deporting all illegals would cost more money in the war in Iraq.
	And I don't think that would be a good investment for the American taxpayer.
	Like the rest of the video, you were saying, like, you were talking about legal immigration.
	It's like, what were you saying about that?
	So I personally think that we accept too many people legally.
	Okay.
	We, America accepts far more immigrants than any other country, like 10 times as many.
	Like, like that's, that's just insanity.
	Okay.
	Um, but yeah, I don't think that we should just not accept anybody, but, um, yeah, I mean, I don't think that we should be accepting millions of immigrants every year.
	I mean, I don't know the, I don't know the exact number that we're accepting.
	That's what's going on right now.
	Yeah.
	I understand that.
	I disagree with that.
	This is important.
	But what I'm saying right now is that I don't think that it would be a worthwhile investment to spend 15 trillion dollars or more and deport all the ones that are already here.
	It's I need to say something.
	If there's like, if there's an estimate of like 20 million.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Devon said something.
	Very important.
	It just changed all of three for me.
	So happy 420 everyone.
	That's it.
	Don't care, didn't ask.
	Don't care.
	20 million illegal immigrants in the United States, right?
	And there's millions of Americans below the poverty line who can't get a job, right?
	Why would I not want to invest in getting them out of the country so that we can open the economy to American citizens?
	Dude, that's cool, but like, look, where are you going to get the money from?
	Look, I'm not saying that we accept all of them.
	I'm saying that we have a system where we look at what they did while they were here.
	And if they have been beneficial to our economy, if they've helped us, then they can stay.
	But on the other sense, if they've committed crime, if they've just fed off social programs, then get them out, okay?
	I'm not saying that we just give them all citizenship, but I just, I don't think that it would be worth I think it would also... I'm trying to express that they already broke the law.
	No, I understand that.
	I understand that.
	They deserve to be kicked out.
	I mean, you're saying it's going to cost expensive dollars?
	The amount of money saved with them out of the country is going to be crazy.
	Okay.
	It wouldn't even compare.
	On the high end, it's estimated that illegal immigrants cost the American taxpayer a hundred, I believe a hundred- Sixteen.
	A hundred and sixteen billion dollars.
	So you realize how many years that that would take for that fourteen trillion, that fourteen trillion dollars to add up?
	That would take, like, literally, like, over a hundred years.
	It's like $5,000.
	It's like $1,000 that it costs to import illegally, right?
	Because you have to pay for the rage, you have to pay for the intel, right?
	Nick went to set all this on this live stream.
	I don't know if any of you watched it, but he caused 60,000 per illegal alien in the United States.
	Not true.
	Programs, schooling, hospitals.
	It's not true.
	It does.
	Let me go back.
	I was actually talking with Nicholas about this earlier on Snapchat, and then he called the Washington Examiner liberal.
	And I don't know, I kind of laughed at that.
	When somebody doesn't pay taxes and they get free things for it?
	Okay.
	Illegal immigrants do pay taxes, actually.
	If you don't believe that, then you just, you deny facts.
	But, um, so illegal immigrants actually pay about $18 billion in the social security every year.
	And then above 10 million, 10 billion in the Medicare, as well as sales taxes and everything else.
	So if you look at it from like a monetary standpoint, this $14 trillion plus, it's not, you would literally take like, like almost a hundred years for that to even replenish.
	I mean, This man is straight chillin' with his water right now.
	Let me say this one thing.
	We'll go back a little bit to what you said.
	in or i've just been why i've been you know i've been kind of going at it so now let me let me say he's taking his break he's taking his right let me say this one thing right so you we'll go back a little bit to what you said you said that the fundamentals of being a conservative or a republican for that point right and one of them you brought up was low taxes right so what nick what i'm gathering from what nick says and this might not even be what he's trying to say but for that 15 what 15 trillion dollars to get everybody out dollars at the low end okay so how are we going to get that money
	we have to tax people more right we can't print off more money because we don't have 15 trillion dollars by taxing wall street or just the rich so it's So wait, so is your solution to just stop deporting people?
	No, I literally gave you my solution.
	You said put a filter on who you're deporting.
	I said that we need to have a system to where we look at what they've done while they've been in our country.
	If they've been benefiting our economy and not committing any crimes, then they can stay.
	But if they've also been committing crimes and feeding off social programs, I think we should get rid of them.
	Crossing border illegally is a crime, right?
	I understand that.
	I understand that.
	But again, I'm saying from a monetary standpoint, the investment of spending $15 trillion or more is just not worth it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Where are you getting the $15 trillion number?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Just out of curiosity.
unidentified		From like multiple websites.
		I can put one.
		I can snap.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just curious because all the numbers that I've seen have said $5,000 to $10,000 per legal immigrant.
		Those are the actual numbers of what it cost ICE in 2016.
		It was a little bit more than $10,000 in 2012.
		It was a little bit less than $6,000 per immigrant.
		immigrant on average.
		And even the high estimates that I'm seeing in the media are like half a trillion dollars.
		You know, if it costs five to $10,000 per legal immigrant times 20 million, you're not getting to 50, $15 trillion is a lot of money.
		I don't buy that at all.
		I would have to see the methodology.
unidentified		Personally speaking, I don't agree with the Nick videos in this factor.
		I think that deporting illegal immigrants is an important cause.
		If we're going to spend as much money as we're spending in other departments, I think that we don't need to stay lacking in a department of enforcing criminal justice, you know, so.
		So I, I think that, I think that it is an important factor to take into account that, you know, they have crossed the border illegally.
		They didn't choose to do it legally.
		they didn't choose to follow the rules.
		Whether you like the rules or not, those are the rules.
		So it's not this thing where you get the exception because you had hard times.
		You don't get the exception because you're hungry that you can steal from a store.
		You also have to look at the fact that if they know they're not going to be deported, why would they not come?
		No, no, no.
		No, no, no, no.
		See, I haven't given my full plan, okay?
		Before we do anything with that, you have to build the wall.
		Like, you have to.
		Because whenever you start this system, then you're gonna have a bunch of fucking people coming in just trying to get a citizenship.
		So you have to build the wall first, and then you have to crack down on it even more, like border crossings and stuff like that, through ports of entry, like ocean, stuff like that.
		Like you can't, you can't just start a pathway to citizenship without doing anything else.
		Right.
		Yeah.
		And I agree that we need more border security.
		I'm not sure the wall is the number, is the, you know, the thing that we need to do for sure.
		A hundred percent.
		I feel like, I feel like Trump's whole, uh, wall aspect was more so, you know, voters can actually envision something happening on the border.
		You know, I think that's, you know, I think it's a little bit drastic, but, uh, you know, border security in general, I think is a great, you know, thing that we need to invest in right now specifically.
		We do have an immigration problem in America now.
		actually keep us you know from allowing in the you know the criminals i mean that's the biggest thing criminals we do have an immigration problem in america now obviously how we fix we were just talking i hate to cut you off i just want to add one thing we were just talking about last night the fact that nobody wants to work border security i mean that job sucks you know i mean nobody wants to work border security but yeah that's i brought that up last night but the thing is like i think everyone agrees that yeah we have an immigration or at least i can't i can speak for
		maybe the republican side of things but we we agree yeah there is a problem with immigration now how we solve it obviously differs i mean obviously how we solve it differs like uh i think me and reese are on the on We need to probably fund border patrol and strengthen our border protection, you know, whether that's a wall, more people on the border, and then I think obviously need to fix the way immigrants come in legally, because people obviously see the fact that, well, it's easier to come in illegally, so I might as well just go in illegally.
		Yeah, I just want to ask this, like, really quick thing.
		If you're gonna try to, like, discriminate, like, distinguish between good illegal immigrants, right, and bad illegal immigrants, like, if you decide to keep Some of the illegal immigrants in America?
		What does that say to people who are working hard, that are legal citizens, that can't, like, make it successful?
		Like, what does it say to people who are poor American citizens, that you're keeping people who you view as good workers, but they cross-border illegally, broke the law, they tried to undermine the system?
		Like, what does that say to them?
		I would say it also says something to the people who are actually actively trying to get legal citizenship as well.
		You're right.
		I mean, I don't know.
		I've, my views have changed on this throughout my journey in politics.
		I've just became more libertarian as I've gotten to know more.
		Except when it comes to women.
		It has nothing to do with women.
		It has everything to do with preserving human life.
		Yeah.
		But no.
		So yeah, I mean just – I think your question on immigration is – it is a fact.
		I think – no, I think – are all illegal immigrants bad?
		No.
		No.
		But have they all broken the law?
		Yes.
		So therefore, does that make them a law-abiding citizen?
		No.
		So yeah, do I think all illegal immigrants should be deported?
		Yes.
		Even if they're good people.
		I mean, that's just unfortunate.
		You did.
		Like we said, the rules are the rules.
		You broke the law.
		Yeah.
		Whether you like them or not, the rules are the rules.
		I'm gonna hop out, guys.
		You know, Nick Flynn says, we can't agree on that.
		That rules are rules and you have to follow.
		Why do you hate agreeing with this man?
	Hell yeah.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	I'm with you.
	I agree.
	I've been cultured to disagree with, you know, everybody that disagrees with me.
	So I guess I just, it's harder for, it's harder for me to agree with you.
	That's that culture of white culture.
	All right, Violet, calm down, you're halfway there.
	Also, I just want everyone to remember that America is not just an economic superpower, right?
	America also has, like, we need to keep America moral.
	In just a general sense, the word moral is very important.
	Like, regardless of you saying, all right, like, some people say, I'm not saying anyone here does, but I'm saying, like, some people say bringing in a ton of immigrants will, like, help America's economy, right?
	Usually the libertarians say that.
	But at what cost does it come?
	It comes sometimes at sacrificing Like the blanket culture of America, right?
	The American way of life comes in sacrificing, like if there's no economics, like restrictions, right?
	And the morality in America is just gonna crumble and America has become a weak nation.
	And like, whenever you look at politics, you have to always think about A, the economic effect and B, like the cultural and moral impact.
	Like a lot of people are like for gay marriage because they say it's like equality, but like, you can't just redefine a word.
	marriage to try to get some equality that doesn't exist.
	That's not true equality.
	If you're a Christian here and you support gay marriage, you've got to really think about that again, because the Bible says that the greatest commandment is to love one another, and loving one another is leading them on a path which is correct.
	I'm not saying a theocrat for Christianity, But I'm saying you always have to keep that in mind when you think about politics in general.
	You have to keep the religion in mind or else your religion... I don't want to overstep my bounds.
	That's my thing.
	don't want to overstep my bounds that's my thing is you know what god what is what is that that's over that's overstepping that's overstepping our bounds by us trying to play god you know by trying to you know you believe this person's fate is i was letting the gays marry making our society i have a little bit different view than most conservatives on this because if you look at gay marriage i don't believe that they should be forced to be married by like priests
	you know any church but by the state yes and the reason for that is because if your loved ones in a hospital i don't really care if you're gay you can't go visit them if they're But you don't need marriage to- You do need to be married, or be family.
	Marriage is the way to enter into the family, and that's the only reason I'm okay with it.
	On paper, I don't agree with it.
	You know, in a church?
	On paper, for the government?
	You don't need a real contract for marriage to give those privileges?
	The way that I see it is that it doesn't affect me.
	I don't really care.
	Like, I can- It affects our culture of America, so it doesn't affect me.
	That doesn't mean that I could, like, support sodomy.
	I mean- Sodomy.
	The Christian side of me, like in a perfect world, would I wish that the United States would take up as a Christian state, right?
	That is our, that is how we are.
	Who wouldn't want to think, who wouldn't want that as a Christian?
	Okay, but yes, but also you brought up the Bible says to, you know, love one another or love thy neighbor as thyself.
	I'm not saying to do it, I'm just saying who wouldn't want that.
	No, I get that, but what I'm gonna say is this on top of the gay marriage thing.
	Do I, morally, every fiber of me, disagree with it?
	Yes.
	But you also gotta think, if you're taking this from a moral standpoint, and your morals obviously come from Christianity, Jesus also sat down with prostitutes, rabbis, and all these other people that society spat on, right?
	Yeah.
	You still have to have respect for them.
	You still gotta be nice.
	Yeah, you have to prepare for the marginalized, but you don't tell the sinner that it's okay to keep sinning.
	I'm not telling a sinner it's okay to keep sinning, but I'm letting them do what they choose to do.
	I'm giving them the free will.
	I'm giving them the free will.
	Allowing free will to take reign.
	Not everybody in America is Christian.
	I just want to clarify one thing real quick.
	What I said with like, you don't tell the sinner it's okay to keep sinning, that was to what, I don't want to say this like offensively, but Fatty Actual, that's what That's my name.
	I wouldn't have made that.
	I wouldn't have made that.
	No, yeah, you don't tell the sinner to sin.
	I'm not saying that, like, you're telling the sinner it's okay to sin by legalizing gay marriage.
	I'm just saying you're redefining a word, marriage, which is between a man and a woman.
	Natural law is obviously, like, homosexuality is not part of natural law.
	I believe it's morally incorrect.
	I am anti-gay marriage.
	That's what I'm trying to tell you.
	Look, I am.
	And you can call me homophobic, whatever you want.
	Now, am I still going to have to have love and respect for them?
	Yes.
	But at the end of the day, if they don't want to listen to me, they're going to have to answer before God.
	So that's my viewpoint on it, dude.
	Like, I have friends that are gay.
	I've told them I'm Christian, and I've told them my beliefs.
	And I'm like, look, if you're not going to listen to me, I believe at the end of the day, you're going to have to answer to God.
	So I'm not going to force something down somebody's throat, like my beliefs and stuff, and try and hammer it down on top of them when it's going to do them no good.
	But I just want to, like, I agree 100%.
	Like, you can't legislate morality.
	If you try to legislate morality, then it's going to be a total mess.
	People are going to obviously revolt against it.
	There's a world In retrospect, the world hates God.
	That's a general statement that I think anyone can agree with.
	Oh, we're a secular society for sure.
	Yeah, 100%.
	What I am saying is this.
	If you look at the 1950s, forget the racism and I disagree with that 100%, but I'm saying if you look at the 50s, government was much more prone to keeping a society which was pure and clean, right?
	And then in the 60s, people were like, well, no, no, keep your religion out of politics.
	And then in the 80s, there's kind of like 50-50 religion and secularism.
	And now in the recent 10 years, secularism, people have been trying to get religion 100% out of politics in the name of equality.
	But there's always going to be one dominant voice.
	And at the end of the day, you've got to choose which one is greater to you.
	So you can't always just keep waving the white flag like, all right, I can't legislate this, I can't legislate that.
	Because they're going to try to legislate stuff on you if you keep lying down like that.
	I don't lie down, dude.
	Like, I mean, I think we have the same basis.
	Like, I'm definitely for, like, I feel like we should pray in school still.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I think we're on the same page here.
	I'm just saying, like, you got to realize that you're not going to win all the time and you can't keep We as Christians, you're just going to chase people away, right?
	From your morals, the more you keep hammering down, because people will be like, dude, this guy is so annoying, or, you know, yada yada, I'm not going to do this.
	All he wants to do is press his beliefs on me.
	I am for spreading Christianity.
	I am 100% for it.
	I try to share the gospel with everybody I meet.
	But at the same time, I still have to respect their free will.
	You know what I mean?
	Because God left us our choice of free will.
	That's why we're allowed to sin still.
	But a legal distinction, a legal recognition of a Marriage is like you rejecting them.
	It's not like...
	Not, like, enforcing your beliefs.
	Enforcing your beliefs would be saying, like, two guys in one room together, and the door's closed, nope, you're going to jail.
	That would be enforcing your beliefs, right?
	That's obviously a weird example, but that would be enforcing your beliefs.
	No, yeah, that's enforcing your beliefs.
	I can't argue with the law.
	I can always write up and call my local representative, or I can start a petition to sign it, but until that gets changed, I still have to support the law, because that is the law, whether I agree with it or not.
	Because like I said, wholeheartedly, I don't agree with it.
	But at the end of the day, that's the law.
	God said, and not God, Jesus said, you know, you got to give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and give unto God what is God's.
	Now that talks about money, but at the same time, he's also talking about you have to still respect the authority that's above you.
	Yeah, it's true.
	You have to respect the authority, but when the authority passes a law that you 100% can't go with, you have no moral obligation to defend the law, right?
	In my state, New York, most crazy and disgusting abortion law was passed in August.
	I'm never going to respect that law.
	I'm never going to say I uphold that law.
	Why?
	Because it's abhorrent.
	It's murder.
	It is totally against what I believe.
	So you disagreeing with the gay marriage law is not you forcing your beliefs at all.
	I just want the government out of me.
	Like I said, I still disagree, but that's why we also have the opportunity, like I said, for the Baker Free example, I can deny my business or services because I don't agree with it.
	We have the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion.
	I'm all for it.
	No, like, I think we're on the same page.
	I just think we're chasing each other in circles.
	Trying to run some Fortnite?
	Let's go to Bopti.
	Bopti, what's up?
	What's up, boys?
	Nice mic there, bud.
	Is it, like, fucked up?
	We got to move on because this is going for a while.
	Let's go to Bopti.
	Bopti, what's up?
	What's up, boys?
	Nice mic there, bud.
	Is it like fucked up?
	I can't really tell.
	No, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	He's saying you both have the same mic.
	Yeah.
	Wait, it's not even plugged in.
	I'm actually recording.
	Whoa!
	Okay, so I want to comment on two things.
	One, actually I want to ask Nick.
	Nick, how did you get in here?
	Which Nick?
	Nick Fuentes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I got invited.
unidentified		I think you typed a code in.
		Yeah.
		I think that's how that works.
		What do you mean how?
		I came into the back door and no one was looking.
		I still don't know who the heck texted me.
		Because whenever we were in Nick's live chat, told him to come to the thing, someone texted me a random Zoom link.
		Don't know who did it.
		I don't know.
		Okay, um, I guess like what I would recommend you is to you guys is before you like let on a dog whistling fascist You guys should like at least understand hold on cuz this is when you let let me say something here We're being very dog.
		You need to show respect you show respect.
		I'm gonna respect you back dog Look ain't nobody gonna listen to your point if you beat him over the head like they're in Neanderthal even say like We let everybody have a spot to talk.
		Okay, okay.
		You know what?
		I'll be respectful.
		What did you say, dawg?
		Good grief!
		What?
		You got a lot of people hating you.
		I don't know what you said.
		I'm kind of concerned here.
		I guess I was being a bit of a bully, but that's my bad.
		I'm the biggest bully.
		You can't bully me.
		I'll kill you!
		Okay, let's move past this.
		This is such a fruitless conversation.
		What are we talking about?
		Can I ask a question?
		Let me hammer this home real quick.
		You gotta show respect to people for them to give you respect back.
		Saying something's fruitless and acting like you know better than everybody else is not a good way to go down this road.
		Nick's just gonna turn around and roast you because you're not gonna show him the respect.
		If you want to have a good conversation, that's great.
		But obviously you need to respect the man in order for him to have enough respect to even look your way and give you the same conversation back.
		There.
		Alright?
		Does that make sense?
		Yeah, you know what?
		That's my bad.
		Yesterday when I hopped in, I was being a little rude.
		I was getting a bit with the hype.
		And, uh, you know, I recognize that.
		That's my bad.
		But, um... Alright.
		Great man.
		Go ahead.
		So, I guess the reason I was asking why you guys, or how Nick Fuentes got in here is because, like, you guys seem to, like, not have that many rebuttals to a lot of, like, the blatantly false stuff he said.
		Like, a lot of the historical revisionism he engaged in.
		I just found that, like, I was wondering, like, are you guys gonna, you know, do this one more time except when, like, people have done a bit more research or, like, what's the plans for the future?
		Absolutely.
		Good.
		I think the point was to kind of get him in here and, you know, ask him questions and allow him.
		Yeah, the point wasn't just, you know, we didn't set up and plan this to be like some kind of debate stage or something like that.
		You know, this was literally like a last minute, you know, hey, would Nick Fuentes actually join the Zoom, you know, so we can ask questions.
		And that was, you know, that was kind of the point of it here.
		It's, you know, like Nick said multiple times, nobody came here prepared with like papers and pages and stuff like that, you know, so I mean, I'm not prepared to do any kind of debate on any kind of topic.
		I'm going just what I know off the top of my head.
		I actually agree with that.
		different you know topics that have been brought up so i mean if you want to happily if you want to try to refute something that he said by all means go at it you know no so like i guess so i actually agree with that like i can understand that you guys might not have been prepared but i think like i think where i would see a difference is that if you guys were talking to somebody that i don't know didn't really advocate for like race realism or like those kinds of weird things i i guess i
		Do you see how you could see that differently? - You were paying attention at all when we were talking to this man?
		We don't agree with a lot of the stuff he says, dawg.
		I can explain why I think that's an issue.
		If you're not able to properly refute those arguments, don't you think that's a little bit irresponsible to continue letting him – You can properly refute arguments.
	We're not going to censor him because we can't refute him.
	That's just like gay concern trolling.
	That's not- I'm not talking about censorship.
	I'm not for censorship.
	That's the evil can discern information- That's exactly what we just brought up, chief.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That they hear.
unidentified		Well, no, that's not what I'm- That's not the point.
		I'm just saying, don't you think it's irresponsible on your side to- No!
		It's letting him talk and letting us listen.
		Okay.
		Yeah, okay.
		I was just wondering about that.
		To be clear, this wasn't a debate at all.
		We weren't prepared at all.
		We just came in here to talk.
		Okay.
		I just want to say real quick, I don't know what you've been watching, but I feel like everyone's been Yeah, that's true.
		I mean, Topher, he literally told you that you're, like, dumber because you're black.
		Did I say something to that?
		That's the opposite of what I said.
		That's not the opposite.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Nick.
unidentified		I mean, Nick, you literally said that, like, you're engaging in, like, skill signs.
unidentified		I literally said explicitly the opposite.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I said that.
unidentified		Wow, what did you say then?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You can do that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I said.
unidentified		Hold on, before this man starts talking something to you, let him talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		First of all, I want to point out that this is something that liberals engage in.
		This is what social media censorship is.
		It is, because this is what they do.
		They say that, well, normal people cannot discern.
		Normal people cannot discern what is true from what is fiction.
		So we need responsible fact checking.
		And anytime there's something heterodox, we need NPR to mediate.
		So you hear this a lot when you hear for calls for censorship that, well, fake news, fake news originally came from Facebook.
		Mark Zuckerberg said we need to create policies that will stop fake news being spread on our platform.
		In other words, like InfoWars.
		Anyway, so I just want to point out what's being done here.
unidentified		This is a very shady thing.
		So what's being done here?
		Hold on, what's being done here?
		Well, I mean, no, I don't agree with- What's being done?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just explained, I just explained.
		This guy comes in here and says, Oh, um, you know, you're not responsible because you're not fact-checking this fascist dog whistler.
		And this is what I hear from Jared Holt.
unidentified		This is what I hear from- I mean, you're the one who does the Holocaust denialist shit.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		All the usual suspects.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I've never denied the Holocaust.
unidentified		And I address that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You can read the Washington Post.
		I addressed it in the Washington Post for you.
		Thanks.
		But, um, the point that, I made earlier, I said explicitly that that was not the case.
		I said, we're talking about averages.
		We're talking about groups of people.
		I said explicitly, I'm not saying because you're black, you're dumb.
		I actually said there are, I said, it would be ridiculous to suggest that there are no intelligent non-white people.
		I said that actually, if you look at how big the population in Africa is, there are tons of smart people everywhere because of how numbers work, how scale works.
		We're talking about averages.
		So I said, explicitly and you could rewind it you don't have to trust me but i said that explicitly repeatedly we're not saying oh because you're non-white you're dumb because you're this color you're dumb i treat everybody equally everybody's an individual to me but a country must look at groups and groups have averages and distributions and that's what we're talking about so that's where the fact checker for the responsible fact checker you seem to not really know what you're talking about so i don't know if that new york i mean coming from the guy that's like doing the race realism stuff
unidentified		i don't know if you can really get on me about you didn't provide a source and he didn't come in here claiming to be a lord fact checker like you're saying he did he's He came in here to concern Troll and say that everybody else should have the fact-checking.
		No, he asked why we do it.
		I'm just wondering why they're debating without me.
		Everybody knows what he's doing.
		You know, Nick, I'm actually Jewish.
		You know, I got the whole thing going on.
		I don't know if you're gonna answer me for that.
		Yeah, I actually am.
		So am I, dawg.
		What do you want, a cookie?
		If you actually check out the, uh, Hillary Clinton's- Speaking of cookies!
		Hey, Nick, you made a pretty weird joke concerning cookies in the Holocaust, didn't you, bud?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know, that whole passive-aggressive thing you do is really pathetic.
unidentified		Chill, chill, chill, chill.
		It's just a meme, bro.
		It's just a meme.
		What are you gonna do?
		Deep- Alright, look.
		Everybody, look.
		Hold on.
		Here's what I'm gonna say.
		One last time, bro.
		I'm literally gonna just keep you muted.
		Breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth.
		Bobby, this is what you did last time that I'm gonna talk about.
		Look, we ain't gotta bring up no hostility, bro.
		Everybody has different opinions.
		Now, whether or not you get a little hot under the collar because you don't agree with somebody's opinions, bro, that's just how it works.
		Now, look- Dude, we need to get our inner Frederick out here, okay?
		Look, and whether or not you don't like what the man has to say is the right to say it.
		And pretty sure when he brought up the race thing that people didn't agree with, not saying it was even about race, let's not even start that thing, right?
		When people thought, when they were covering it about race, pretty sure Topher still upset something.
		A lot of us were like, wait, we don't agree with that.
		Now, whether or not we had the facts, like he said, he didn't have the facts, whether or not we had the facts to hit him back with, no.
		I mean, like, if you've been in here for the entire time, you would've noticed that.
		It's like you literally fell asleep and then just woke up when you were gonna come in here and try to reignite something.
		Yo, I've been- I don't know what you are.
		You're that one dude that stands there with the ant hills and, like, tries to get- poking it with the stick to get him to fight.
		Why are they flexing?
		Why'd you use ants?
		I don't know.
		Because the ants fight to the death!
		I thought about ant bully.
		Everyone's flexing right now.
		I'm just naturally pumped.
		Okay.
		Wait, can y'all hear me?
		Can y'all hear me?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		Just making sure.
		He's like, I gotta, I gotta be heard.
		Nicholas is not racist.
		He's going to follow me on Instagram and Twitter.
		You got me, you got me!
		Wait, Nicholas, how did you know about me before everything?
		Because you followed me on TikTok and the only reason I knew you followed me was because Lance told me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I was watching Lance's content and you guys were in the boys or whatever.
unidentified		The boys?
		That was the dumbest thing ever.
		I don't even post a lot anymore.
		Yeah, it was a little cringe, but do you know Jaden at all?
		Jaden... Jaden who?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Jaden McNeil.
unidentified		I've heard that name.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like know... Yeah, he's, uh, because he's very in tune to the TikTok stuff and he was like, yo, check out this.
		This is the boys.
		There's Lance and Nick.
		And, uh, so he's the one that got me into TikTok.
unidentified		Is he like one of your Groypers?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's a Groyper.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He was a former Turning Point guy, but he dissolved his chapter and became a Groyper.
unidentified		Oh, uh, what were you gonna say, uh, Topher?
		Wait, about Nicholas following you.
		He had a plug!
		He had a plug!
		Come on, now let him talk!
		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
		If people are following Nicholas, it probably should be me, guys.
		I got him in here in the first place.
		I'll follow you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Give me your app.
unidentified		Oh, there we go.
		Guys, guys, guys, I would like to point out that he already follows me on Instagram and TikTok.
		Okay, Nicholas, keep on flexing, okay?
		Keep on flexing.
		Wait, can I get the Instagram?
		Hello.
		So there's a kid, Lucas, I think he's on the second page.
		He's been trying to talk for a while.
		He was the one who brought up one of the questions I was asked in the chat.
		Wait, Nicholas, do you follow me on Twitter?
		I'll follow you on Twitter.
		Yeah, you tweeted about me like four times today.
		My IG is my name.
		My IG is I got you.
		So I just have like a few things.
		So I'm the one that brought up the LGBT stuff at like the near beginning, I guess.
		So I wanted to talk more about transgender type stuff because I feel like my question got kind of taken out of context and then I never really gotten a clear answer because it just kind of turned into like Christianity and how If you consider gay marriage morally right, which wasn't really what I was asking.
		I was trying to like ask, um, just in general, do you think it's a choice?
		Do you think there's a science behind, um, gender identity, um, that kind of stuff?
		I wanted to have a conversation more about that rather than the legality of gay marriage, because I don't really think that's going to be a topic really debated on.
		Like with all of us or with just... Just, yeah, I want to kind of...
		Get another perspective.
		Well, for me personally, I mean, I look at facts and I've read multiple scientific peer-reviewed studies that have showed that people that are gay or trans, their brains are actually similar in brain structure to the opposite gender that they are, like looking at their genitalia.
		So I don't think that being gay is a choice.
		I think that that's definitely like hardwired into your brain and how, you know, like that type of stuff.
		As far as rights are concerned, I mean like I don't necessarily like condone – I don't condone gay marriage or being transgender.
		Like I don't condone it.
		But at the same time, it doesn't affect me.
		So like I don't think that the government should restrict it just based on Christianity.
		Like I don't really care personally.
		It doesn't affect me whatsoever.
		You think that – and I think we disagree on this because you think that people are born gay but gay still wrongs?
		So people can be born wrong?
		Yeah, that's kind of my... No, no, no, no, no.
		Having homosexual desires isn't necessarily wrong, but what's wrong is acting on them.
		That's my problem with that argument.
		That's, it just doesn't make any, so you're telling me that Like personally, I'm gay and I'm just going to make it clear.
		It's not a choice because if I could have avoided all the emotional trauma I and so many others went through, I would be straight in a heartbeat.
		It's not something I would decide on.
		And if I'm supposed to pretend I'm not someone who I am and ruin my life and my enjoyment, my pursuit of happiness, which is a right that everyone preaches, how am I not supposed to enjoy and like, how is it Such a bad thing for me to be with another man.
		If it's my desire and you just acknowledge that it's sexual, it's hardwired into your brain, how does that make any sense?
		This is a hard thing to get into without actually, like you said, like, I mean, you didn't want to talk about Christianity, but it's a hard thing to stop to start talking.
		I believe in God as well.
		Well, yeah, no, it's a hard thing to talk about.
		So you start because you'll start tiptoeing into morals and whatnot.
		And then and then you are having a full out moral conversation.
		No, you know, D, if you're talking about whether I think it's right, then I base it upon my Christian morals, which is I don't believe it's right.
		You know, I'm just not well read up on the science of it, dawg.
		kind of I wanted to talk more about like the science behind it I'm just not well read up on the science of it dog like the like the brain stuff like that's a lot of big words and I ain't about all the big words so you know I mean I'm not saying that I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not about them words, boy.
		I like it, I like it, yeah.
		Like, I'm denying, like, I'm not gonna read it because it's probably wrong.
		Like, I just, it's a very, like, I just, I'm not well-read in that, you know what I mean?
		So I'm not gonna, the only thing I can answer, obviously, is from a moral standpoint, and so that's where I stand on that.
		No, the way that I, the way that I see it, I'm like, okay, they may think that in their brain, but guess what?
		So do people with, um, uh, what, what is the word they hear voices in their head?
		Um, schizophrenia.
		Yeah.
		I'm like, like there are, so we're going to just tell everybody that the word, the voices that they hear are actually real and they're right and everything too.
		Okay.
		Um, so do you want to get into that?
		We can't, I would love to talk about that.
		So, um, it's a, um, It's kind of like schizophrenia, like we all are aware that like, no one else hears those voices.
		Therefore, it's not a reality for us.
		But it's a very real reality for that person.
	And I just don't Okay, but what I'm trying to say is, like, literally, if it's your reality, yeah, but it's not the actual reality.
	Okay, so, but it's a very real reality that- Okay, so, I'm okay with gay people, but you should not encourage someone who thinks that voices are real.
	That's okay.
	That's not a good thing.
	You should never encourage that.
	What you're saying is their reality.
	It doesn't matter if it's their reality.
	That's a messed up, not true reality.
	I'm not on their side with this.
	I mean, that's an awful argument.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, that's, you know, that's literally, you know, lying to somebody.
	I never said to promote that.
	I said that You can't compare schizophrenia to sexuality.
	We're not comparing it to sexuality, we're comparing it to the brain concept that you said.
	Yeah, it's scientifically proven that it's hormonal, environmental, and genetic.
	So let's do one that's more sexually oriented, like pedophilia.
	So pedophilia is like, I don't know anyone that in In the LGBT community that would actually ever support that.
	I don't understand where that came from.
	Like, it's disgusting.
	Oh, I've seen tweets.
	I've seen plenty of tweets.
	The LGBT community doesn't stand for that.
	Keith supports it.
	Dude, homosexuals and pedophiles were like this for decades.
	They still are, but they're secret.
	So there's these disgusting pedophiles, like, I don't know, like Jessica Yaniv.
	How are those people supposed to represent our community?
	When I'm on here, a very respectful person just trying to like have conversations, how are you going to take the bad people when I'm Instead of taking the good people to represent.
	I just want to say one thing, Jessica, you need this on TikTok, make sure you get rid of her.
	I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not trying to just, I'm not trying to, you know, generalize your group that yes, everybody agrees with that.
	However, we, you know, we are, we are trying to make the point here that there are people in your community that, you know, believe that and accept that.
	There's a lot of ignorant, incompetent people in every community.
	But if you ask somebody that's in that community, who was their first, and then they're gonna be like, oh, I was 16, he was 24, or something like that.
	It's an actual thing that's a part of that community, because all the gay guys that I've ever talked to, because I live next to West Hollywood, oh yeah, my first was, he was 22, and I was 16 or 14.
	I first was out, he was 22 and I was 16 or 14.
	It's always that kind of answer.
	Because, because the LGBT community is very toxic and it has lots of issues.
	So you want us to accept those issues and that toxicity?
	So you can see that there is a lot of toxicity.
	I want you to understand that these people I don't want representing me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I want... Sounds like they've got a lot of problems.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It does have a lot of problems.
unidentified		They're bringing their problems with them.
		Like, like... My whole point of the video was just the fact that We expect them to not act upon those sexual desires.
		Yeah, but that's not the same thing as homosexuality.
		That is the same thing.
		It is exactly the same thing as homosexuality.
		Listen, it's a choice.
		Consenting adults, I get that.
		It's different from consenting adults and kids.
		But what I'm saying is the same idea of acting upon it.
		That's all we're saying from a Christian standpoint of view.
		Well, I believe in God as well and Christians as well.
		homosexuality wasn't even a word until I believe it was 1890s, maybe it, the humans could not, when the Bible was being written, the humans could not comprehend sexuality.
		It still talks about, I mean, a man laying with another man in first Corinthians and in Leviticus in the King James version, which was actually like the early 1600s.
		There's lots of people that have predicted that there was a mistranslation that it really was referencing pedophilia rather than homosexuality.
		I mean, it's pretty black and white, though.
		Make that argument.
		Like, it's not just a thing that it talks about in the Old Testament and Leviticus.
		It talks about it as well as in 1 Corinthians, and it doesn't use the word explicitly homosexuality, but it's just a man...
		Homosexuality is a word that man created over time.
		It says a man laying with another man.
		And the reason why... I mean, it doesn't literally mean just a man... And the Bible says a lot of stupid, outdated things.
		Just because you think it's outdated doesn't mean that the actual word is true.
		If the Bible is the holiest book in the world, then it doesn't get outdated.
		I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
		It's the word of God.
		It's eternal.
		There are more ancient manuscripts for the Bible than any other book ever written.
		Do you realize?
		I do not remember the exact time, but you can fact check this.
		At a time period, the Pope, the fish market was struggling, okay?
		And the Pope told the public that God told him to eat fish this certain day, so for this certain day you could only eat fish, so the fish market could make money.
		Okay, well, a lot of Catholicism isn't even biblical anyway.
		Hold on, wait.
		Look, look, look, look.
		Before we even open up a whole nother can of worms.
		No, I wasn't trying to tear on Nick.
		Let me go back.
		No, you're good.
		Let's not talk about how the Catholic Church is a bunch of what we're talking about, but hey.
		Let's not talk about it being outdated, right?
		Let's not talk about indulgences or none of that stuff.
		Somebody earlier during this Zoom call said there's a difference between old ceremonial law and moral law right and so when jesus came we got rid of all the ceremonial law stuff right the pork well some people still don't eat pork the pork the killing of the animal sacrificing something for our sins and then you know because jesus came to abolish that now we still have a moral law that we follow and saying that one of the things that the moral law talks about is is homosexual relations
		still it also talks about things like mixed fabric and not cutting your hair old testament law dog I don't think you understand the point of the term ceremonial laws and moral laws.
		I don't want to bash that.
		Look, I don't want to bash that.
		Now, the no cutting your hair thing is actually a Nazarene vow and you are not required to take a Nazarene vow.
		A lot of people take it because it's like a thing to become closer to God almost like in a sense of what a monk would do to try and become you know more enlightened in the sense you don't have to do it but or not a monk sorry that was a buddhist monk there we go that's from before it's something you don't have to do but people do it because they want to be closer to God so that's where the no cutting hair thing comes from now with that being said Like that's not that's that's a ceremonial law.
		I don't know if people still take the Nazarene vow now.
		I imagine maybe some like Jewish people still do because if they're focusing on the Torah and whatnot in the Old Testament, but there is now a very big difference between ceremonial law and moral law.
		So the fabric, the same fabrics, what you eat, shelter, that's all ceremonial law.
		Moral law is completely different.
		And the more I understand that like personally, I don't believe that, um, God, the God that I believe in, and the God that I believe is the Christian God, would never treat anyone differently because of who they love.
		Because that's just something I will always disagree with, and no one will convince me otherwise.
		Like, no matter what anything says.
		Yeah, I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, man, and what you believe in, but at the same time, like, when you're the same God you're saying that you believe in, God, we have a loving God, yes.
		We also have a wrathful God.
		At the same time, he's very, and he judges very righteously, man.
		And it just, you can't, saying that he is, he still views you right.
		He still loves you as his child, right?
		But at the same time, is he going to be a little sad over the choices you make?
		Yes, and he will.
		I just don't understand how I didn't choose to be born different and go through all the trauma I had to go through because of that.
		I agree.
		I agree that, you know what?
	So who chose that?
	Who decided that?
	God presents us with trials in our life to make ourselves better, to better ourselves through our trials.
	And the thing is, everybody is, I believe that everybody has sinful tendencies that we struggle with the most.
	But it's not, and I just don't understand how it's something that I You missed the whole nail, son.
	You hit your hand.
	You didn't hit the nail.
	How is that going to come in?
	And you can – and someone can say that they – Maybe you said about somebody that rapes people.
	But that's different.
	Okay, okay.
	Hold on.
	Violet, you missed the whole nail, son.
	You hit your hand.
	You didn't hit the nail.
	I would compare – instead of the whole rape thing, I would say a pornography addiction.
	I would say like that.
	You know something like if somebody has a pornography addiction, they can't help it because all they want every time is their own.
	is to just straight up go to the, you know, Dark browser, you know, or the, you know, what do you want to call it?
	What do you call it?
	I'm not even that dark.
	Incognito mode.
	Incognito mode.
	I know nothing about that.
	Yeah, right!
	My Christian self and, you know, from my Christian roots, I don't believe anyone is born gay.
	Now, with that being said, we are attempted.
	The second we come out of the womb, I believe we're attempted.
	We get hit with left and right of all sorts of different things, right?
	How we handle those temptations determines how we'll keep growing as a person.
	And sometimes you go through something and, like I said, this is through my Christian world.
	Why are there two Edgars waiting in the waiting room?
	Oh my God.
	But no, how we go through things, right?
	We might be going through things for a long, long time.
	I'm just saying, the God, if we share the same God, I'm not saying he's going to hate you because you're gay.
	Through my Christian morals, I just don't think that's what he has planned for you.
	It might be something you're going through right now, and maybe you end up changing.
	And people can go through trials their whole life.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, if we go back and look at Job, he didn't go through it all his life, but that man got hit with everything.
	If another person keeps on comparing me and Nick Fuentes, the way we look, the green screen and everything, I swear.
	Are people saying that?
	Yeah, people are saying that we look the exact same.
	We've got headphones on, we've got a green screen.
	You do!
	Headphone check.
	Put a finger down if you're in front of a green screen.
	Put a finger down if you can't broadcast.
	Put a finger down if you're wearing a headset.
	So if you don't mind I'd like to move over to like more instead of I feel like we kind of drifted back to what we're what you guys were talking about earlier that I want to talk more about specifically on transgenderism because I feel like that's not really talked about a lot at all I think I was just unmuted would I be able to just grab something
	Sorry.
	I don't know who I'm muted, but sure, I guess.
	I think Aubrey did or something.
	Sorry if I'm butting in.
	I was just wondering, so do you guys have any direct arguments, whether it comes to homosexuality or trans people or anything like that, that are removed from religion?
	I do.
	I mean from Nick Fuentes if he wants to kind of you know, so what do you think like removing kind of the Christian morality realm here?
	What do you feel is like the general evil of society when it comes to homosexuality?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good question.
		And you know, of course, it's difficult.
		I think that It's hard for non-religious people to wrap their heads around the opposition to homosexuality, because non-religious people view everything as matter, and if we're all just atoms, we're all just stardust, then who really cares what's happening in the bedroom or anywhere else?
		But what we find with Homosexuality and transsexuality is that, in my opinion, a lot of the factors that lead to same-sex attraction or homosexual acts is largely trauma.
		And a lot of people meme about this, but it's totally true that Okay.
		Generally speaking, what you see in gay people or trans people is some kind of breakdown in the home very early on in childhood, a divorce, abuse, molestation, something like that.
		That's not true in every single case, but it is true in a lot of cases, and I'm just Just being from experience, I've seen a lot of the gay people that I know, it's like divorce, check, like overbearing mother, check.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But so the point is a lot of these behaviors are responses to trauma, and you know that because the sexuality of a gay person is very different than the sexuality of a straight person.
		What are the characteristics of homosexual sexuality?
		It's promiscuity, it's drugs, it's deviancy, even on top of the same- But that's such a generalization!
		Can I finish?
		We've let you- We've let- We've heard the arguments in favor.
unidentified		I apologize.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		So what we tend to find in these communities is we tend to find, frankly, a lot of mental illness, a lot of anxiety and disorders like that.
		We tend to find a lot of this trauma in their past.
		We find a lot of acting out drugs, many, many sexual partners.
		I mean, I've seen studies, and obviously studies aren't great because it's people self-reporting about their sex lives, but I think there was a study done in San Francisco Where it said that more than 50% of the people polled said that they had sex with 2,000 people.
		More than 2,000 people.
		Heterosexuals just don't have sex on that level.
		And so, just from even a practical point of view, I see gay sex or, you know, homosexual acts as basically traumatic, as expressions of sort of mental issues or trauma early on.
		And these things, I think, are remedied by Do you think I could respond from, like, my personal experience?
unidentified		Okay.
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		I was going to bring up something more general, but if you want to, you know, talk about that, we can start a question.
		So let him, let him do that.
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		Go ahead.
		Oh, but before you do, I'm headed out.
		It was nice hanging with y'all.
		Everybody have a great evening.
		Stay safe.
		Wash your hands and stay home.
		I love you, fatty.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Goodnight, big guy.
unidentified		Bye, guys.
		Eat drugs.
		So, Nick, I just wanted to add on to that by saying, so when it comes down to, like, homosexuality in general, we both acknowledge that that's not a choice.
		It's something that's kind of, like, ingrained in your brain as you're born.
		So, obviously, I think you would say that, like, heterosexual acts are natural, but homosexual acts are not.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that, um, I don't think that anybody is born gay.
		I think that it, like, like you said, it's environmental and, uh, you know, maybe there's a genetic component, but I think it's largely environmental.
		But, um, what is different to me, um, is not even religious, it's philosophical.
		And this is in the Catholic tradition.
		It's, this is what our church believes, but it's a philosophical argument that, You're telling it's kind of like a complicated philosophical thing.
		If you read Aristotle or you understand like the causes, it's complicated stuff.
		But if I can reduce it to you a little bit, it's that we are created or at least we can see in the world, whether you believe in God or not, That there is some signature of design, in the sense that things are created for particular ends.
		And I don't think you have to be necessarily religious to believe this, but you could say that, I mean, why does this water bottle exist?
		You can drink water out of it.
		Why does this jar of peanuts exist?
		It exists to contain peanuts.
		And so on.
		Things are created with goal-directedness.
		Things are directed towards specific ends.
		When we, as people, are created, our different faculties and organs are created directed towards something.
		Your heart is created directed towards the end of putting blood throughout your body, right?
		Pumping blood through your body.
		Your mouth for eating and so on.
		Your reproductive organs, obviously, are created with the ends in mind of reproducing.
		Um, the anus is not created in mind to be, uh, you know, violently... Yeah, I don't have to get too... That's not why it was made.
		And this is why, you know, typically a lot of these sex acts end up in very, very bad medical things, like trans.
		You look at some of these trans procedures, And they're ghastly enough as they are.
		I mean, people getting things lopped off and reassembled and everything.
		They also have all kinds of problems where you have to have them like, you know, you have to go in later because there are complications.
		There's lots of complications and things that need to be corrected at times.
unidentified		It's a new surgery.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, is that we're not made to be chopped up and disassembled and put back together and slamming each other.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's just not what it's supposed to be.
unidentified		No, it's a fact.
		men do have a pleasure point.
		And that's just a fact.
		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that doesn't.
unidentified		So Nick, No, it's a fact.
		To the trauma argument that you were talking about a little bit.
		Yeah, I would like.
		So when it comes to like homosexuality as being caused by trauma, how would you necessarily explain that there are certain like animal species that have homosexual tendencies and attractions to other animals?
		What do you think causes that?
		If it's, you said you're not born gay.
		So what do you think necessarily causes that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, animals are subrational.
		So I think when people make this naturalistic argument, when we're talking about nature, There is this conflation in the modern day with nature as in like organic life versus like nature in a higher sense and like a philosophical sense.
		So when I say that it's unnatural I don't mean that like you can't find it in nature.
		You can find a lot of things in nature.
		You can find murder and you know all kinds of horrible things in nature.
		And you know also I would say that I mean, we're not animals.
		Animals do a lot of things that we don't like or don't care for, that are wrong.
		And they're not just wrong because they're unethical or immoral, they transgress the rights of others, but because they violate the integrity or the nature of things.
		And that is what we as rational humans should strive to avoid, is violating the integrity or the nature of things.
		And I generally think that things that do violate that, they tend to create problems.
		And I find that You know, you can say, oh well, that's religious, or that I don't agree with that philosophy, but I will tell you that one of the big reasons I became religious and re-embraced religion is because I tended to notice that all the things that the Bible and Christianity says, if you follow them, you tend to do good.
		It tends to be practical.
		It tends to be, even though it's 2,000 years old, a lot of it tends to be Very practical and very wise.
		I find generally that this is the case, that you look at people that follow these lifestyles, you look at women that don't have kids, they tend to be miserable.
		You look at men who are not breadwinners, miserable.
		You find that when people violate their nature, when they violate the integrity of who they're supposed to be, they're not very happy, they're not very successful, they tend to be, you know, frankly, like basket cases, crazy types, depressive types, and I think you find that all over.
unidentified		That's a huge claim.
unidentified		Do you have like a source or like a study or something?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, I'm speaking, you asked if you could speak from your experience and I'm speaking from mine.
unidentified		Because I'm a single, I'm a gay person that would like to explain how my childhood has affected my certain thing.
		Saying that everyone that doesn't, saying that every woman that doesn't have kids is miserable without any source to back that up.
		It's a huge claim.
		Me saying that my personal experiences did not affect my sexuality, and I have facts from my life that can prove that up, including my other siblings that went through the same stuff as me that didn't turn out gay, shows that there was not a trend that came out of my parents' divorce of us all coming out gay.
		You saying that a woman that don't have kids are miserable is no source or anything to back that up.
		Sources are overrated, frankly.
		Nick, I think it comes down to, I think we're just going to fundamentally disagree on necessarily that you believe that the fundamental teachings of the Bible should dictate 21st century life.
		Now, you know, that can be what you end up believing.
		I think it also comes down to how much of the Bible are you willing to embrace?
		Because there are certain passages of the Bible that I feel are very often disregarded by whether it be the Republican Party or certain people who feel it doesn't fit their narrative.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We've already addressed this.
unidentified		You know, like what is it?
		Beating the poor, clothing the sick, or welcoming the foreigners.
		Oh, so what?
		You all want foreigners in Israel?
		Socialism or something?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Can you define socialism?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean we should be like socialists or something?
unidentified		Can you define socialism?
		I'm not talking about socialism.
		I'm just saying a lot of people like to embrace this idea of Christianity, but I see a lot of- Which is it?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You say, like, well, it's the current year, so, it's the current year, 21st century, but then you say, well, but we're gonna bully you, and they're like, well, but you're not Christian enough, you're not... No, what I'm saying is... Well, I'm on board with the whole Bible, I'm on board with the whole Bible.
unidentified		You are.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Catholic, so then why... We have interpretation.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We have interpretation.
unidentified		Okay, so I'm just curious, like, why are you... and you said you wanted to put a halt on immigration, correct?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
unidentified		Oh well, that means mass immigration to destroy our country, right?
unidentified		Sorry, you do acknowledge that there is a passage in the Bible that does say, welcome the foreigner for you were once foreigners in Israel, correct?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, that means mass immigration to destroy our country, right?
		The catechism says, the catechism of the Catholic Church addresses immigration, and it says that a nation has an obligation to take in as many people as they can as refugees.
		Not like, not like maximum, like, we're gonna take in everybody!
		It means, like, that they reasonably can without, I don't know the exact passage, but it says, like, a reasonable amount that they can sustain, and it also says, that the people that are immigrants or refugees, they have to respect the customs and the culture of the land.
		Neither of those things are being done.
		We're taking in way more than we can handle, taking in way more immigrants and refugees and economic, and by the way, they're not refugees, they're economic migrants, big difference.
		So that doesn't even apply.
		But in any case, the people that are here aren't respecting the culture.
		They're not assimilating, they're not integrating, they don't care about English or any of this stuff.
unidentified		How would you describe American culture?
unidentified		Because I've never- We've been over this, we've been over this.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Speak English.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Be a Christian.
unidentified		Salute the flag.
unidentified		Support our troops.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Vote for Donald Trump.
		Eat McDonald's.
		Play video games.
		Skateboard.
unidentified		Can we take it back to what I was trying to do?
		You made a claim that homosexuality is caused by past trauma, and as I said before, how Did only one out of four.
		Let's cover this one topic and then we do want to get some other questions.
		I'm totally cool with moving on.
		I'm going to just chime in for real quick.
		I personally don't agree with Nicholas on his stance on like how people become homosexual.
		I personally believe in the science behind it, but I mean you're kind of using an anecdotal example.
		Again, I'm not agreeing with what he's saying, but you're kind of using an anecdotal example there.
		Yeah, I mean, I would say it's a little bit anecdotal, but there are plenty of other situations in which that is the case.
		Yeah, and again, I'm not agreeing with him, I'm just saying that your argument isn't very strong for your side.
		So yeah, I just kind of wanted to understand.
		All right.
		Yeah.
		Thank you for the questions though.
		For sure.
		For sure.
		I'm going to head out.
		Yeah.
		I'm out of here.
		I'm going to bed.
		I don't know how y'all are still on.
		It's four in the four in the four in the damn morning.
		But I guess y'all do you.
		I'm out of here.
		I guess some of us are not essential workers.
		So let's go.
		I have crack.
		What?
		I don't want to do this.
		I, I, I have crack.
		Nick, Nick, before we get too like far back into the questions, uh, would you be willing to do this again since we didn't get to hit too many questions?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		What is the question?
unidentified		I'm going to do this again since we didn't get to hit a lot of the questions.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, sure.
		Sure.
		I didn't understand the question.
		Yeah, we could do that.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		We, we usually, we usually do these like every night.
		So like if you wanted to hop on again, you know, it's up to you, of course.
		Depends on your schedule.
		Sure.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I got my show, which is run from about 7 to 10 central, but yeah, I'd be down to do it sometime this week.
		Just let me know.
unidentified		Awesome.
		Sounds awesome.
		We're all going to be on your show now.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		I'll stream it next time.
		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
unidentified		Yeah, that'd be, that'd be awesome actually.
		So, uh, okay.
		Um, Frederick did have a questionnaire.
		Frederick, we can go to you.
		Uh, hang on, hang on, hang on.
		It's not a meeting you for some reason.
		Oh, there we go.
		Gotcha.
		Uh, I just wanted to.
		I had something that was kind of missing to the last conversation.
		And so I have a lot of like gay, lesbian, bi friends.
		And I came from a highly Catholic like community and a highly central Illinois Catholic community.
		If Nick, you realize like how those are.
		Um, but I guess the one big thing that like we're talking to a lot of them is like, how do I say this?
		Uh, like when they go out on their pride marches, it's because like the history behind all of them, like being unjustly oppressed.
		Like, I think that's just a very important thing to like keep in mind.
		is that they have been put back in almost all aspects of society.
		And they're just, like, happy to be recognized.
		Like, that's something, like, that's, that I've been, like, I don't know.
		Like, I just, I wish that aspect was put out more, like, that they're now welcomed.
		Like, I guess that's, like, okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But we, well, I at least disagree with that being welcomed.
		I mean, I understand on, like, a normie level saying, like, well, these people got treated badly, and now they're not being treated badly.
		And, you know, I think that when we approach anybody who's doing something wrong, the answer is not to, you know, beat them up or something like that.
unidentified		I don't know why Violet is laughing here.
		Violet does this when it gets late at night.
		Yeah, I get a little weird when it gets late for me, because I had this up.
		And then somebody spotlighted me, so I was like laughing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The point is, we wouldn't have a drug abusers parade or an alcoholics parade or a rapist parade or something, and not to compare homosexuality to rape, but the point is it's a bad action.
		It's an immoral action.
		Why would we be marching down the street saying we are proud of sinning?
		We are proud of sinning.
		We are finally free to sin, and no one will judge us, and no one will tell us otherwise.
		I think that that is wrong.
		I think we should have parades that celebrate families.
		Let's have a parade that says, how many kids do you have?
		You have 10 kids?
		Join the parade.
		Let's bring back parades with crosses and nice things.
		As you look at these gay parades, and it's very telling, who comes out of the woodwork to these things?
		Is it, like, well-adjusted, like, normal people, or is it a lot of people that are doing freakish, deviant things, and they're stripped down, and they're dancing suggestively?
		Like, I think any person, even if you're not religious, some impulse says, there's something immoral or scandalous about this, and that's natural.
		There's something natural about that sort of, like, repulsion, emotion.
		That people have when this kind of stuff comes around because because it is wrong and we know that intuitively These parades are they're always just like a hot spot of promiscuous sex drugs often.
		It's pedophilia Scandal just bad stuff.
		That's not good.
		And I you know, maybe we shouldn't be like, you know killing anybody but we definitely shouldn't be celebrating that stuff that stuff should stay, you know get back in the closet and Get back in the bedroom, wherever it was before, and he's to go back to where it came from.
		Because I weep when I see children that go to these parades, and you know, they're mothers.
		It's always mothers.
		Dress them up in rainbow outfits and everything, and it's like, this is what the devil wants.
		The devil is smiling whenever this kind of stuff happens.
		Every June, isn't that kind of interesting?
		June, pride month, sixth month of the year?
		The devil smiles when people are throwing these big parades.
		It's not good.
unidentified		I mean I guess the thing that like I'm trying to get at is that so like I've totally gone through a whole different thing like of I really don't consider myself Catholic anymore as I've just learned and gone through life.
		I'm not going to talk about that but I think it's just important to realize that they have been oppressed and there's a long history like with like Religion and just other aspects of life of just like hatred.
		And like, I don't know.
		It's just a interesting thing because like there should be a history type thing.
		Sorry.
		It's really late where I am too.
		Um, but I, I just like, I think knowing the history of what has happened is relevant to the conversation.
		Um, I fully support everyone.
		And like, I think that, like, I don't know.
		I don't know.
		Sorry.
		I'm just kind of flustered by it because I- Yeah, you're good, Frederick.
		Listen, we, like, I understand what you're trying to get across here.
		Frederick, you know, he, he wants to be open and welcoming because he wants to be polite.
		He wants to be, he doesn't want to, Infringe on anybody's beliefs.
		And I respect that wholeheartedly.
		Respect that, you know, listen, uh, you know, you don't have, you don't always have to be the person who's in the limelight and who's, you know, saying everything nobody wants to hear.
		Like, you know, Nicholas over here, he's just, you know, he just says all the things he says, whatever you don't want to hear, no matter where you are.
		But no, I'm, I'm kidding.
		Uh, honestly, like, I think that, you know, I think that everybody needs to have a level of respect, you know, no matter what viewpoint you're listening to, because, uh, because it all, you know, everybody has passion for what they believe.
		And so, you know, what you have to, you have to respect what people believe.
		So I definitely, I definitely agree with Frederick in the sense that, you know, do I, do I have to agree with it?
		No, but I do need to respect it.
		I believe that no jokes are off limits.
		Hell yeah.
		That's something I haven't said in a while.
		I agree with that.
		No jokes are off limits?
		If anybody's seen my stuff on the Hype House, I get a lot of people like, you can't say that!
		You can't do that!
		Bro, I literally said I'm canceling a Tinder date with a Chinese girl because I don't want to catch Corona.
		I disagree with what Vincent is saying there, but I don't get mad at him for it.
		Because a joke, even if it's a bad joke, in my opinion, and people on the left always get mad at me for this, but if it's the intention of a joke or meme or something, I won't get mad about it.
		That's my stance.
		You're really loud.
		Nick, you literally, like, you literally were just like, Lance blew up the entire chat.
		Yo, Lance.
		Yeah, okay.
		What's up?
		You've been gone for, like, forever.
		Yeah, I went to go play some Call of Duty with the boys, so.
		Hang on, hang on, hang on.
		Can we just have, like, can we have Nicholas talk and then Lance talk real quick?
		Like, I think your voices sound very similar.
		We have the same, I don't think so.
		No, I don't think so either.
		No, they don't sound the same.
		No, we don't sound the same at all.
		You guys sound super similar.
		He goes, I don't think so.
		He has, like, a little bit of a northern accent.
		Northern accent?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I'm from Chicago.
unidentified		Yeah, Chicago, you know, like, you know.
		Chicago.
		And Lance is more of, like, a proper southerner.
		I do not talk like that.
		I can talk like that.
		But I'm not going to.
		So.
		You like my background, by the way?
		It's probably the best background out of everyone.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I like that, yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
unidentified		Joe binds a pedophile.
		Yeah.
		Everyone on the left and the right can agree that Joe Biden absolutely sucks.
		Watch out there, guy.
		There's a guy behind you.
		Yeah, she's like, uh... He's just sniffing you.
		I mean, it feels kind of nice.
		It's lined up perfectly.
		It's lined up perfectly.
		He, like, did that on purpose.
		He's like, let me just slide over this way a little bit.
		Yeah, I did.
		I, like, moved my camera.
		This was your best landing joke yet.
		Oh, okay.
		Too bad Ashley's not here to see it.
		I know!
		Damn dude, I literally roasted her today and she got so mad and she sent me like six or seven DMs and I posted or I sent her a hose mad meme and she got fired.
		It was hilarious.
		Oh my gosh.
		She's actually really really pissed at me right now, but I don't care.
		She gonna go cry about it.
		Oh, I made a joke about her stutter.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Zoomer pride worldwide.
unidentified		How many of you guys are Zoomers?
		You're all Zoomers?
		Everyone's a Zoomer, Brad.
		Okay, explain to me what a Zoomer is.
		I don't understand.
		Generation Z. Are you into this?
		Generation Z. Zoomer, Boomer?
		That's all that means?
		That's all that means?
		That's literally it?
		I thought all these people with Zoomer names are just like people who like going to Zooms.
		Epic?
		Okay, that's a pretty good one.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Epic?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Epic Zoomer?
unidentified		You'd be surprised how many people join Zooms just because they like joining Zooms.
		You a gamer?
		Oh yeah, I do it all the time.
		I raid them all the time.
		Oh yeah.
		There's this one clip of him roasting the teacher.
		You guys gotta see it.
		He goes like, shut the fuck up you bitch.
		Everyone in the entire Zoom class just like, just was like silent.
		It was hilarious.
		It's a group chat moment.
		Lance, you probably have it on your phone.
		Show it.
		I think I might.
		I might have it on my phone.
		No, I just said, fuck you, bitch.
		And he goes, in the middle of the Zoom class, and everyone was dying.
		All right.
		I do want to go, because I'm probably going to go.
		And soon?
		Soon.
		Not yet, but soon.
		So I want to go at least three more questions.
		And then we can let people go, because I know everybody's tired.
		I mean, look at Gabby.
		Gabby looks so tired.
		She's not even responding, she's so tired.
		I have class at noon.
		I have class at 9 in the morning.
		I don't even wake up until 4.
		Look at Jordan.
		Jordan's just waiting for him to fall asleep.
		Look at this guy's background.
		He has Obama putting a medal on him.
		That's actually really good.
		That's pretty good.
		Wait, who?
		Oh my gosh.
		Let's go to base John Doe because he has had his hand up for a while.
		Where's that Zoomer Brad kid?
		He keeps making TikToks about me.
		John Doe, what's up?
		Thank you, thank you for unmuting me.
		If you could go to, uh, uh, who's, who's the guy next?
		Uh, let me, let me just find him really quick.
		I got to shout him out.
		Well, anyway, anyway.
		My first question was, uh, I was scrolling through the timeline as you do, and I see, I see Jaden McNeil, I see Jake Lloyd, I see all the boys posting, uh, Nick Video's newest TikTok, and I watched it, and all the comments seemed to agree that he was extremely homosexual in that TikTok.
		And I wanted to make clear, I haven't seen any of his stuff, or whatever.
		Are you actually a homosexual?
		Or was that just that one video with the little... That's literally, like, the dumbest question, dude.
		No.
		He's probably more straight than you if you ask me.
		So... On to the next question.
		Alright, great stuff!
		That was the dumbest question ever.
		Alright, Josh!
		What's up, Josh?
		Alright, so, like, I have two things to say and then, like, two questions.
		So, like, I'm sorry for you, like, because you had to debate that, and, like, Anarchist yesterday, and he wanted to, like, bring us all back to the Paleolithic era.
		That guy!
		And, uh, I hope you don't take this offensive, Gabby, but, like, I kind of feel like you have a Carol Baskin voice.
		She doesn't.
		But, like, my two- Gabby, talk.
	What?
	Hi.
	I guess.
	No, I'm not from the South.
	typical white girl like talk so yeah it's not carol baskin no i don't have an accent unfortunately carol baskin killed her you guys see oj simpson has a tiktok yeah Wait, for real?
	Like it's so funny.
	The entire comments is like all the comments.
	You guys know who Johnny Sin is?
	Johnny Sin has a TikTok.
	Why does OJ not have someone go on his social media before he starts posting to censor out the rapist?
	Because he could do that.
	He got away with murder.
	He doesn't care.
	He goes, I was so bored.
	Somebody goes, were you bored in the house on the date?
	They stuck the date of when the murder happened.
	It was so funny.
	He got like 10,000 likes.
	I remember the last time he was in the house bored.
	It wasn't bored at that time.
	He was actually probably having a lot of fun.
	Well, apparently if you read his book, he just blanked out and it just happened.
	Alright, Callie.
	What's up, Callie?
	Hi.
	I didn't actually expect to get unmuted, sorry.
	So, I have a question for Nicholas Fuentes.
	Sorry if I pronounced your last name wrong.
	So, what are your thoughts on Nazi Germany?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Not a fan, not a fan.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Why, do you think I'm a Nazi?
unidentified		No, no, I wanted your specific thoughts on specifically the scientific experiments that German scientists were instructed to do during World War II.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will say that there is a lot of nonsense floating around there.
		Like I said, I'm not a denier, but we can all agree that this lampshades and bars of soap business, lots of bullshit.
		If you read some of these diaries or personal accounts, and I don't know if you guys want to look into this, but they make these ridiculous claims.
		There was one claim, and this was, by the way, the Nuremberg trials.
		Not like I'm pulling this out of my ass.
		This was in the Nuremberg trials when they're trying the Nazi for war crimes.
		You had a guy...
		They claimed that they would electrify the floors to kill people.
		They would electrify the floor.
		They had people that said that they would use carbon monoxide to kill people by running like gas engines.
		And like, I mean, you know, the narrative is that it was Zyklon or whatever, but it wasn't carbon monoxide engines.
		You know, I mean, that doesn't make any sense.
		They would say that they would get, they would be ushered into like death chambers, get haircuts, Then get the hair removed to make beds for Germans, move the people out, clean up the rooms, move them back in, then kill them.
		So, you know, I think there's a lot of stuff that's clearly like, you know, atrocity propaganda.
		You see this in any war, in any time there's atrocity propaganda where they try and really make it heavy-handed to guilt.
		People and to, you know, bring down the hammer on the, uh, you know, transgressing country, but obviously I'm against, you know, genocide or human experimentation.
		I mean, I'm against things that are evil, but I, you know, like every Holocaust survivor said that they were, uh, experimented on by Mengele, like every single one.
		The Nazi doctrine, it's like, Definitely he existed and definitely did terrible things, but not every one of them saw that guy.
		Like, you know, clearly there's some fibbing going on.
		So I would say that I'm against atrocities.
		I'm against, you know, a decent person.
		I'm Christian.
		I don't think genocide is good.
		Murder, state, systematic murder.
		I don't know, not down with that or experimentation, but I do think, you know, there's a lot of stuff.
		Electric floors, you know, lampshades, that kind of stuff.
		I think we can all agree that's pretty silly.
unidentified		So you're telling me you didn't hear about the cloning that they had?
		He was everywhere, what are you talking about?
		On Kamino?
		Wait, I had a question for Nicholas after that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Do you watch Star Wars?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I love Star Wars.
unidentified		Star Wars is best.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The new season of Star Wars.
unidentified		The Clone Wars season.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't watch that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
unidentified		Oh, okay, never mind.
unidentified		Get out of here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a prequel stan, okay?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I've been watching Revenge of the Sith.
unidentified		Prequels are way better, man.
		Sorry, Nicholas.
		You can't call yourself based if you don't watch Clone Wars.
		Really?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is it that good?
unidentified		That is the most alt-right thing.
		That is the most alt-right thing.
		It went down a little bit.
		You don't like Clone Wars.
		Wow.
		I don't.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just like Revenge of the Sith.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's my favorite one.
unidentified		That's the best one.
unidentified		You have to watch Clone Wars then.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll check it out.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is that on Netflix or what's it on?
unidentified		Disney+.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I gotta give Disney money?
unidentified		If you have Verizon Wireless, you get it free for a year.
unidentified		I was about to say, I got it free.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Damn, I don't have Verizon.
		I'll find some way.
		Baked Alaska has it on his thing.
		He's got a server in his garage.
		He'll hook me up.
unidentified		Awesome.
		Alright, so, Tarifal, TarifalJuice, I'm not sure, but you can tell us.
		Wait, hold on.
		I just changed Nicholas's mind on something.
		That's me, Nicholas.
		Can I go flex on that?
		I'm on board.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm converted.
unidentified		Oh wait, hang on, hang on.
		Maddy, what'd you say?
		I'll do one or two more questions and then we'll just call it there.
		What?
		Do you want to do one or two more questions and then just call it there?
		Yeah, we can.
		Someone's sleeping.
		Or, Violet, if you're willing to stay up longer, we can make you host.
		Oh, if you guys are going to go, then everything will be gone.
		Yeah, this is going to be me.
		Nobody's here to see me.
		Come on now.
		Well, everybody's here to see Nick.
		I'm here to see you, Violet.
		As long as she's in the SWAT gear.
		Yeah, where's the mask?
		Where's the mask right now?
		What are you doing?
		Yeah, bring it out.
		I don't wear a mask.
		I wear more of like a helmet and a vest.
		Bring out one of the wigs.
		Bring out one of the wigs.
		Oh, the wigs?
		Yo, Violet.
		Violet, Violet.
		Can I say that one video that you made of like the beginning of Emma Lou's video and then like you came out and like said all that funny ass shit?
		That was legitimately like the funniest TikTok I have ever seen in my life.
		Wait, wait, so why does your camera shake like a tiny bit?
		I can notice it's like wobbling.
		It's like, I'm like, what is going on?
		Is it not on a tripod?
		It's like, it's like, it is, but like the way that I have it, it's like one of those long ones, right?
		And Every, I have to click that button every time and it makes the phone shake and I have to hold it to make it stay.
		Okay.
		Cause I noticed that and I was like, what?
		Why is it shaking?
		I try to stop that, but it's really hard.
		Nick, who is this, this chief Trumpster grouper?
		He keeps asking me to play Fortnite.
		He's a friend of mine.
		He's a, he's a reminder that Lance videos hasn't accepted my 1v1 on Fortnite.
		I want to see that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Jaden beat you in a 1v1, Lance.
unidentified		Yeah, he did.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I just want to remind you that the Groipers are... Okay, but listen, I could probably beat you, so... I don't know, maybe, we'll see.
unidentified		Hey, let's make that happen, actually.
		Last time we played, we were pretty equal.
		Political TikTok Fortnite tournament.
		I'll commentate.
		Lots of cursing, everything.
		We'll see, Lance.
		He's a leftist now.
		No way to settle a dispute.
		There's a pre-show.
		Yes.
		A pre-show with Nicolas Fuentes and McVideos debating.
		A gaming pre-show.
		Yeah.
		I would totally be down to debate.
		I'm not scared.
		I'm legitimately not scared.
		But here's the thing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		I really want to be a TPUSA ambassador and if they saw you on my YouTube channel, that would go out the window.
		What if you were on my channel?
		I'm sure they'd watch your channel too though.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's opened a lot of doors for me.
		be down to debate just turning point and bad what is even so great about being a turning point ambassador what do they send you like a sticker or something or it can open doors it can open doors for you and i like it's opened a lot of doors for me and so hopefully nobody sees this one then yeah they would they would listen they would not be mad about this Benny Johnson would be not non-pleased.
		If he, if he saw this one, good old Bernard Johnson.
		Benny Johnson.
		What are we going to do with Benny Johnson or Charlie Kirk for that matter?
unidentified		All right.
		Terrafall juice.
		What's your question?
		It's a fun way to pronounce it.
		Um, I got a, I got a question, two short questions, one for each of the Knicks.
		Um, my first one's for musty TikTok Nick.
		Um, has being a Republican, how has that, you know, a conservative, how has that affected your, so how has that affected your game?
		Have you seen his hair?
		It has not affected his game whatsoever.
		No, no, no.
		But as a strategy, do you like play it down or do you use it as a means to find women with a reasonable body count?
		No, I don't use this.
		I don't use TikTok.
		He's gonna ask Nick the same question.
		I don't use TikTok to find women.
		That's not my question for Nick.
		I don't know.
		No, I don't use TikTok to find women or anything.
		Getting hit up by women has definitely become easier.
		Nick, when you go to college at the clubs, just tell the girls you got 100,000 followers on TikTok.
		He got 200,000, bud.
		Like, I know you're in college, and I just did my application, and they literally, there was a literal slider on my application, it was like, this is the political left, this is the political right, just like, slide where you are.
		And like- Why would they ask you that on a college thing?
		Yeah, they're going to say, okay, you're a little bit too far to the right.
		You're not allowed on our college.
		But no, like to answer your question, I, I never started TikTok to find women or anything.
		I mean, I definitely get a lot more like thirsty girls in my DMs now, but like, I mean, I don't.
		I feel it's beneath you.
		I mean, I really don't answer DMs.
		Like, I used to be good about answering DMs, but now, like, since I've gotten bigger, I just, I literally, I can't answer all of them and stuff.
		So, like, I only really answer, like, people.
		I go, because my account's a creator account.
		Like, I have that set up, like, in the Instagram setting.
		So, I usually hit my, like, when I'm looking through my DMs, I hit top requests, which, like, puts the people with the most followers at the top.
		So, yeah, I only really answer people that, like, have a big following or something.
		Sometimes I get other, like, big TikTokers that DM me.
		They don't have enough clout for Nick.
		Well, no, I don't have time to answer everyone individually like I used to, but, yeah, I mean, I don't use TikTok as a tool to find women or anything like that, if that's what you're asking.
		Oh, it's like, but your political life is still sort of isolated from your life in college?
		Yeah, so, like, well, I'm not in college yet.
		I'm a senior at the moment, but Oh, that's fun.
		But, um, like, I mean, at school, people, like, nobody at my school really treats me differently.
		Like, people that are outside of public school, like, they kind of treat me a little differently.
		Not, like, in a bad way.
		It's just, like, now, because I have, like, I don't consider myself famous.
		I think famous on TikTok is when you hit, like, a million.
		That's when you can, like, actually say, like, you're TikTok famous.
		And you're from Texas, right?
		Yeah, Houston, Texas.
		Right.
		That's, no, I mean, I'm, you know, in the sort of Bronx area and Just, like, complete opposite.
		Like, you can't even be, like, the Overton window shifted left quite a bit.
		No, like, I mean, there's only a couple people at my school that I talk politics with and it's more so of just a good civil discussion.
		It's not like we're yelling at each other or bashing or like, you know, yelling at each other, stuff like that.
		It's just, it's more calm discussion.
		Like I don't, I don't talk politics a lot, like with my friends that I have in person, other than like a couple, other than like a select few.
		But yeah, like, I don't know.
		I mean, I don't, I'm really political on TikTok obviously, cause like that's my brand, but I don't, I don't really bring that into my personal life at all.
		So yeah.
		Some people forget that we're just like normal outside.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		I don't know what it's like.
	No one, no one recognizes me.
	I haven't been recognized either, but still.
	I've been, I've been recognized.
	I've definitely been recognized by the Grippers at Trump Tower.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We recognize you at Trump Tower.
unidentified		Yeah, it was kind of weird.
		It was kind of fun though.
		I'm assuming you guys have a backstory.
		You guys keep on talking about the past.
		Yeah, I was at Trump Hotel literally just walking around and his entire group was like So Nick had him and his like, you know.
		It was his army of Groypers.
		Oh wow.
		There was like 30 of you guys.
		And I was just walking with my friend Oddy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		There were too many coming in.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And then Lady Naga confronted me.
unidentified		Yeah, I was about to walk up to you and then Lady Naga started like...
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we didn't get a great exchange.
		I just pleaded with you.
		I said, you know, you're a Zoomer.
		I see the good in you.
		I felt like Luke Skywalker.
unidentified		I did want to like talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I sensed the good in you.
unidentified		It was hard to when everyone else was there.
		It was like everyone else was like yelling.
		There was this other girl that was like talking about Catholicism or something.
		I don't know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that Asian girl kept jumping in, like, shut up, bitch!
		We're trying to have a conversation, okay?
		Gamers and Zoomers talking.
		Take your Wuhan flu somewhere else.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
		Kung flu.
		Easy.
		Chill with that.
		Chill with that.
		Easy.
		We all said that no jokes are off limits.
		Yeah.
		For real.
		I personally don't find a problem with calling it the Chinese virus.
		It literally came from fucking China.
		It comes from China and that's where it's gonna be.
		When people say it's racist, Chinese isn't even a race.
		Chinese is a nationality.
		Nobody calls it the Asian virus.
		Nobody calls it the Asian virus, you know.
		They should.
		What?
		Can I ask Nick?
		Why?
		I hope you're doing alright.
		How is working with Sam Hyde?
		Anything surprising?
		Does he have like a smell about him?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It was surreal, honestly, because I've been watching him forever.
		You know, he's kind of red-pilled me in a big way.
		So he's a giant.
		He drives a giant truck.
		We were driving around Rhode Island and he was just like gunning it down the highway, honking the horn, veering.
		I thought we were gonna like get in a car accident.
		He just like floored it.
		So he's a maniac, but very nice guy.
		You know, you see one guy in the videos kind of like over the top and domineering, but he was a very nice Straight-up guy.
		Cares about the craft.
		Cares about the art.
		So he's larger than life.
		Living legend.
		You know, it was very epic.
		Very humbling.
		Said some very nice things to me.
		I was like... You know, a lot of people say nice things to me, but he's like a legend, you know?
		He was like, dude, you're like cool.
		And I'm like, bro, that means a lot to me.
		So it was very cool.
		Very epic.
		Do you guys know who Sam Hyde is?
		All the Zoomers here, I wonder.
unidentified		I don't really know.
unidentified		Aw, you gotta get on to Sam Hyde!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Is he a Groyper?
		No, he's pre-Groyper.
		He's a comedian.
		He's been around for years.
		Living legend.
unidentified		They have all the Million Dollar Extreme for free on Adult Swim's website.
unidentified		It's like 10 minutes of episode.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Good content.
unidentified		Wait, so, Nicholas, I actually have a question for you.
		Why do you think that the government should, like, keep marijuana?
		Like, why are you against the legalization of marijuana?
		Like, I'm just wondering.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hate drugs.
		I think drugs are bad for people.
		And I think that the government should ban them.
		And I think we can.
		A lot of people say, like, prohibition doesn't work.
		Prohibition totally works.
		It worked then.
		It works now, and I think we should ban it, because marijuana, it kills brain cells, lowers your IQ, makes you less motivated.
		You know, when you think about the health of a nation, I want a vigorous, strong, healthy nation.
		We want our men in the country to be making good decisions.
		We want them to be virtuous, and have integrity, and have reason on their side.
		And if people are inebriated or high, they can't be that way.
		And I think that more and more people are succumbing to self-medicating.
		They're succumbing to self-medicating with drugs, pornography, sex, food, a variety of different things.
		I think the more that we can keep that out of the hands of young people, and adults too, I think the better.
		Marijuana and drugs are bad news.
		Gateway drugs.
		Impair reason.
		Not good.
		So it should be banned.
		And we should get serious about it.
unidentified		Build a wall.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Kill drug cartels.
		The problem is we're not serious about it.
		People say, like, the war on drugs has failed.
		We're not even trying.
		We haven't been trying.
		How can you say we're trying if we don't have a secure border?
		Where are the drugs coming from across the border?
		Hello?
		Build the wall.
		Go after these people.
		Get serious.
		Start making arrests.
		Drug dealers should have their lives terminated by the government.
		And we could keep it out of people's hands.
		Don't crush these states trying to legalize it.
		It's terrible.
unidentified		But one thing that I have to add to that is if you look at like what Portugal did like they used to have like a really huge opioid overdose problem in Portugal and they actually decriminalized it and they saw their overdoses go down by like a ton like a significant amount by like 85% I think and the reason for that was because people were they were scared before that because they were scared if like they turn themselves into like the hospital or whatever to get treatment that they would be sent to jail and so like the way I look at it is if you legalize if you
		I'm not necessarily for the legalization of hard drugs, but like stuff like that.
		Like, I mean, if you look at like what Portugal did with that, I mean, it, it definitely, it helped their issue there.
		There was less people overdosing because they went to go get help and stuff like that.
		The main issue that I see with completely legalizing all hard drugs here is those people that were on that.
		Once they got help and everything, they would probably rely on other government, social programs, welfare, stuff like that.
		And we already spend over $3 trillion on entitlements every year.
		We don't need to spend any more.
		So, yeah, that's my issue with that.
		I don't think that marijuana is that horrible of a thing.
		And it's literally been proven that it's not even a gateway drug.
		Like marijuana isn't even addictive.
		I disagree with both of those things.
		Dude, you're freaking DROIPERS.
		Oh my gosh, man.
		All my social medias have 59 requests.
		DROIPER GANG!
		And they're even worse in real life.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Silent majority.
		We're not so silent anymore.
		Um, but yeah, I think marijuana has just like no benefits.
		And, and I think it is addictive.
		I think it is a gateway drug.
		I hung out with a lot of like stoner.
		I've never done drugs, by the way, but I hang out with a lot of stoners.
unidentified		Yeah, like, yeah, like I don't, I don't condone the use of marijuana.
		Like I would never smoke pot myself, but like, I mean, I don't see it as the huge threat.
		Like I don't like you do.
		And it's literally been proven that it's not a gateway drug.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I want to speed run some of these questions with you.
unidentified		What's your opinion on the 19th amendment?
		I want to answer – I want to ask a few of these questions real quick and like speed – Wait.
		Repeal!
		Are you going to stay on?
		Because I'm going to leave.
		Yeah, I'm going to stay on for a little while.
		All right, then I'm making you host.
		Okay.
		I'm like I want to speed run some of these questions with you.
		So what's your opinion on the 19th Amendment?
		Repeal.
		Got to go away.
		Okay.
		Hang on.
		If Ben Shapiro were to run for president, would you vote for him?
		No!
		No way!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Christian, not Jewish.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, but it's a big job.
unidentified		Hey guys, I'm gonna go to sleep.
		I'm just putting that out there.
		Later, guys.
		Guys, look, I turned myself into a pickle.
		I turned myself into a pickle, guys.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Haha, Pickle Lance.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's not me!
unidentified		That wasn't me!
		Alright, can I ask a question?
		Hey Nick, what do you think we should do about oil prices right now?
		now because they're plummeting because of the whole Iran-Syria thing, Saudi Arabia into what do you think?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's a great question.
		And I'm very interested in it because I'm invested.
		Full disclosure, I'm invested in energy.
		But, um, well, the reason... What's that?
unidentified		I'm betting against it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're betting against oil?
unidentified		Temporarily.
unidentified		I have a longer run option.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
unidentified		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Um, yeah, I think that, well, I mean, what else really can you do?
		I mean, obviously the reason that Russia won't decrease their production as much as Saudi Arabia wants them to is because they know that when consumption is low and oil is not being sold, that who is this going to hurt the most, right?
		Who are high prices going to hurt, or rather low prices going to hurt the most?
		It's going to be the American producers that have much more expensive means of extraction than Saudi Arabia or Russia.
		So Russia understands that.
unidentified		So what's your even going on tariffing foreign oil?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think that if we can't get a deal with OPEC, which is to say Saudi Arabia and Russia agreeing to cut production, that might be a good idea.
		Well, well, we'll see.
		I think that they might come around, you know, because you see that this is not going to be good for Saudi Arabia or Russia to just have their, I mean, Russia can, is a little bit more safe, but you know, they cannot sustain that.
		They rely on oil.
		So I don't know if it could go on indefinitely.
unidentified		Just waiting for gas to become a dollar.
		I was waiting for gas to be through.
		Florida's at $1.60.
		I live in California, it's still at like $4.
		See at $1.60, fuck California, Florida.
		I'm just waiting for over here to take the hit.
		You know, like my people, they were literally like, oh, there's $60 of every, 60 cents of every dollar.
		We have no idea where it's going.
		I'm like, what?
		I would drink my gas.
		If it's just a dollar.
		I wouldn't do that.
		I don't know if that's a good idea.
		It probably tastes pretty good, to be honest.
		Oh, hey guys, look at that.
		We hit 100 DM requests from Groypers.
		Let's put a lime in the gas.
		It'll taste a whole lot better.
		Sorry, I've seen this person here with this little thing.
		Unmute me, please.
		I want to see what they're going to say.
		So two seconds, guys.
		Pedro.
		OK, thank you.
		So I don't know if there's any Democrats in here, but so Lance and Nick, you guys talk to Cuddleby, right?
		To who?
		V-U-D-W-Y, that kid?
		Yeah.
		Yeah, he's kind of annoying.
		To who?
		How do we?
		His name is Larry.
		He's very annoying.
		I don't think I've talked to him.
		I don't think I've talked to him.
		Yeah, I've talked to him.
		He's like, he's very annoying.
		What's up?
		So I have to do, um, like this sort of Google Doc on affirmative action.
		So I was wondering, like, what do you guys think on that?
		Affirmative action is kind of racist.
		It's literally racist.
		I mean, like it's, it's, it's literally creating racial quotas.
		Like it's, I mean, it's racist.
		There's, I mean, it's discrimination.
		It's discrimination based on race.
		I mean, it's racist by definition.
		Why do you have to do a whole Google doc on it?
		Just like research it for five seconds and you'll figure out it's racist.
		No, but, but, oh, I know.
		Yeah.
		But he wants me to like do like affirmative action.
		Is he like your mom or something?
		Why do you have to do this?
		Because, like, I'm, like, very interested in politics, so I ask him to give me a topic and I research on it.
		Okay.
		I respect the research.
		Oh, thanks for that.
		Alright, uh, Refounding Father, what's up?
		Hey, can you hear me alright?
		Yes, we can.
		Oh, alright.
		First of all, I just want to say, Nick Fuentes, big fan of yours.
		You kind of inspired me to start advocating America First.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ace, good to see you.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So, I guess my question is for the TikTok kind of mainstream Republicans.
		Has your guys' opinion on Nick changed since talking to him?
		Because you guys probably had a you know a view of him before that he was like this racist nazi but now you kind of see that you know he's a good guy of course the main clips the pull up on my youtube feed are probably like the ones where it's like nick fuentes gets roasted by ben shapiro you know uh so i mean you know yes i had a definitely a different outlook of nick going into this and yeah he's actually a human being so Hey, nice guy Nick!
		That's exactly why we do these things.
		Like we bring, when we do our lives like this on our Zooms, we bring up everyone that we can, like 100%, like left, right, middle, circle.
		We had freaking communists in last night, so we're, we just try to give everybody a voice and we actually have just like regular conversations.
		Well you guys should be proud because you guys are braver than Ben Shapiro who's like the big conservative because he won't even, he goes from not acknowledging Nick to doing a 45 minute speech on himself.
		I respect it.
		True, very respectable.
		Wait Nick, why do you hate Ben Shapiro so much?
		Is it because he's a Jew?
		No!
		No!
		Dude, some of my best friends are in the news, okay?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I love Jews.
unidentified		I love Jews, okay?
		Do you believe me?
		That was a base question.
		Did I just hear somebody say Hitler did nothing wrong?
		What?
		I would never say that, no.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He definitely did something wrong, so... Yeah, he invaded Russia in the winter.
unidentified		Killing 6 million Jews isn't okay.
		The only thing he did wrong was lose.
		What the hell?
		Gonna get so bad.
		It's a joke!
		Nobody screenshot that!
		You're cancelled!
		You're cancelled!
		Racist!
		I've been cancelled low-key countless times and they still haven't stuck yet, so...
		Oh yeah, the Emma Lou stuff.
		Dude, there was more comments on that video than likes.
		Oh my god.
		No, I've been cancelled before that.
		Like, my little transgender joke where I says, the little meme where it's like, I'm just like you, you're just like me meme.
		I put transgender and then man.
		And then I put them together, you know how you put them together?
		And then I came out with the wig on both sides.
		So it's like, but I got canceled for that one.
		Dude, somebody tried to cancel me because I said that we shouldn't let kids transition.
		I said we shouldn't let kids transition and they tried to cancel me over that.
		I still stick by that.
		Don't transition kids.
		People that think that you should be allowed, that it should be promoted or accepted by our society or even allowed by the law.
		Yeah, I just find it funny how they're gonna be like, oh, they can make their own decisions, but then when they do something, you can't make your own decisions?
		You know?
		Or it's horrible.
		That's terrible.
		Like, if you're going to do that, you should at least be of age, like 18 years old.
		They should not let fucking kids do that shit when they're young and naive and don't know what they're getting into.
		Yeah, I just find it funny how they're going to be like, oh, they can make their own decisions.
		But then when they do something, you can't make your own decisions.
		You know, it's like.
		All right.
		Let's go to Josiah Blanco or Bianco.
		Sorry.
		Josiah, what's up?
		Hey, I just had, can you guys hear me?
		Yeah, we can hear you.
		Okay, so I just had a question for Nicholas, because I'm a Christian myself, and I heard you saying that Like, you don't support gay prides because you say that being gay is a sin, but it's a scientific fact that being gay is not a choice.
		It's biology.
		It's not something that people choose, like how people choose to sin, how people choose to murder.
		It's not like that.
		They don't choose to be gay.
		They're born that way.
		So how can you say that it's a sin if you're born that way and you don't even have a choice in the matter?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would disagree, and I don't believe it's been scientifically established that it's genetic, that there is a gay gene or that homosexuality is genetic.
		I think that, you know, maybe there's a genetic factor.
		I think it's largely environmental.
		But in any case, we can say that same-sex attracted persons probably do not choose to be same-sex attracted, which I would concede.
		But I would say that to act on those attractions is a choice.
		You know, a person might be predisposed to being an alcoholic.
		You know, I had a lot of family members going generations back that were addicted to drugs or that had problems with alcohol.
		And so you could say that I might have a predisposition to being an alcoholic or something like that.
		So for me to be, you know, having that predisposition, that in itself is not a sin.
		But if I were to become a drunkard, being a drunkard is a sin.
		In the same way that, you know, maybe somebody's predisposed to be an adulterer.
		You know, maybe somebody has a higher libido.
		I don't know how the genetics work on that.
		But you might have the desire to have sex with somebody outside of marriage, but that does not mean that acting on that desire is not a sin.
		So, I mean, it's a tough thing, and I'm sure it's a tough thing for a lot of people who feel that way and are trying to live right.
		And you know, nobody's saying like, oh, it's easy, you know, just, uh, Hey, stop being same sex attracted or something.
		But it's a sin.
		If you don't, if you don't do that, if you sin, you go to hell.
		So we are not doing anybody any favors by telling people, um, you know, Hey, do this and then go to hell forever.
		Like that's, that's not, that's not cool.
unidentified		You just said, you just said, if you people that sin go to hell, everybody sins.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, unrepentant sinners is what I mean.
unidentified		Good call.
unidentified		Okay, I got you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Good clarification.
		Yeah.
		So if you're like, oh, I'm just going to have the time out.
		No, you got to repent.
		You got to try to be without sin.
		Nobody is, but you got to try.
unidentified		You can't speak for yourself.
unidentified		I have never sinned a day in my life.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You must be Jesus.
unidentified		The only sin I know is Johnny's son.
		Oh, I want to meet that crazy Jesus dude at the White House and just like interview him.
		We'll go at TSAS.
		It'll be so fun.
		Wait, Nick, are you coming to TSAS?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Lance was telling me, well, I heard people speculated that I was going to TSAS.
		I have no plans to go to TSAS.
		I didn't even know what that was.
		Is that like a summer turning point thing?
unidentified		Is that that thing in June?
unidentified		I was talking about it earlier.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I had no plans to go there.
		Maybe I'll go.
		I have no plans, but who knows?
		Maybe I'll show up.
		You keep asking me.
		It's like you're inviting me.
		Maybe I will.
unidentified		No, I've never asked you.
unidentified		I just wanted to know if you were, because I know you've gone to some of their deals in the past.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I went to SAS, but we had our own thing.
unidentified		Wait, so they haven't banned you yet?
unidentified		Well, I went to West Palm Beach.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I got kicked out of the conference in five minutes.
		I walked in, and people started gathering around me, and they were like, you're causing a disturbance, you have to get out.
		And I came back, and then they had the police issue me a no-trespass warning.
		The security guard was such an asshole, he came up to me and So I came in the first day, and this turning point security guard kicked me out.
		I came back the next day, and he called the police.
		And the police came, and they were like, can you come over here?
		And the security guard came over, and a whole crowd gathered around the police and started chanting, America first!
		America first!
unidentified		Let him go!
unidentified		Whatever!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		And I looked at this turning point security guard, this doofus, They're not going to arrest me.
		It's perfectly legal.
		And I said, like, hey, man, thanks a lot.
		Really appreciate what you're doing for the cause.
		This is really great, you know, because he was such a small jerk about kicking me out.
		These people are all in favor of free markets and I'll debate anybody, anytime, anywhere.
		And they removed me from the Politicon debate.
		They no trespass me at the SAS.
		They, you know, on and on.
		So, bunch of bullshit, but that's okay.
		Groipers are rising.
		We have God on our side.
		We have the truth on our side.
		All these, you know, elite types, all these owl type people in Turning Point, they cannot stop us.
		They can't stop what's been started.
		So, I have no worries, but maybe I'll go to TSAS.
		I haven't, uh, I don't have any plans, but maybe I'd show up and do some hijinks.
unidentified		Alright, let's go to Ben Paulin.
		Ben, what's up?
		Um, hey, what's up guys?
		First of all, something that I noticed, I feel like we all came in with a really bad perception of Nick.
		Like, you're a lot of nicer guy.
		I feel like we all perceived you to be.
		That was just, uh, something first.
		Um, and also, I'm a bit tired, but I wanted to ask you about this, how you feel about this.
		So in 21 states, State governments allow adoption agencies to make the choice to not adopt to gay couples solely for the fact that they are gay.
		How do you feel about that?
		Do you think maybe we should make that federal law or something, or how do you feel about that?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we should ban gay adoption.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think it is, you know, to put people in households like that I think is wrong, so I've never been in favor of that.
unidentified		But do you think that it's better for them to grow up in like an orphanage or a foster home where they could be abused?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think it'd be more likely for them to get abused in a gay household than in an orphanage, if you want to know the truth.
		And I think the other abuse is that, at least in an orphanage, they're not learning that sin is okay.
		You grow up in a gay household, and I mean, any gay partnership is not going to be one that's Christian, or ordered towards God, or anything like that.
		And it's like, sure, not to minimize it, but if you go into a foster home, it's going to be rough, but you're not going to be on that path to hell, like if you get raised by gay people and you think, Oh, that's okay.
		Everything's a free-for-all.
unidentified		So then, do you think we should do, um... I'm so tired.
		I can't think of the term.
		What is it called when you, like, uh, do, uh, like, a medically, uh, procedure for inserting?
		Is that called, like, an I.B.
		or something?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like, in vitro fertilization?
unidentified		Yeah, and that.
		Do you think we should let gays do that, then?
		Or, like, uh, like a gay woman?
		No, so you don't think that gays have the right to have children at all?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Um, well, I don't know.
		I haven't thought about that one too much.
		I'd probably be against it.
		Full disclosure, I was an in vitro fertilization baby, but not by a gay couple because my parents had fertility problems.
		Really?
		You were an in vitro baby, Lance?
unidentified		Yeah.
		My mom- Lance, we have so much- Lance, we're a forced dyad.
		We're a forced dyad.
		Um, yeah, my mom was like tricked in like getting abortions back in like the seventies when it was like brand new.
		So, abortion literally screwed up with her, like, fallopian tubes, and she couldn't get, like, pregnant.
		So she, like, tried with, like, $50,000.
		It costs, like, $30,000 just to get one of those.
		Yeah, it's crazy.
		It's a lot.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But it's really weird, because... Lance is a twin.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Lance is a twin with the girl sister, so am I. Lance is an in vitro baby, so am I. Maybe we're long-lost brothers.
unidentified		Lance, Lance, let me just point it out, Lance.
		Your sister's hot.
		Stop simping for my sister, bro.
		Don't they start like five or something like that?
		So listen, my mom actually has a picture of me as an embryo, and I'm thinking about using that in an abortion debate.
		Is it okay to kill me there?
		No, I don't think so.
		Yeah, that's cool.
		I was just wondering, because, like, I'm conservative as well, but I feel like, to some, right, you know, they're still humans, they should still have the right to raise a child.
		But, like, I understand what point you're coming from, the religious, because I'm Christian as well, so I understand what you're saying there, as, you know, I'd like kids to be raised in Christian households with Christian morals as well.
		But, yeah, I understand what you mean there.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and a baby has a right to a father and a mother.
		So I feel like, you know, it's different if like a married couple does it versus like a gay couple.
		Cause it's like, you've deprived that child of their, I mean, they may obviously have a biological mother, but they won't be raised by it.
		So I think it's cruel.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I see what you mean.
		Just like, I don't know.
		I feel like they deserve the right back.
		I understand your point, your side of it.
		Because, but also, how do you feel about like, do you think, because like science shows that there is no psychological, one thing is you could say like they could get bullied, of course, because, you know, people are jerks.
		But there's no psychological things that show that it's worse for a kid to grow up with gay parents.
		There's no psychological proof of that.
		That's not necessarily true.
		Yeah, I haven't looked at the research.
		It's been scientifically proven to show that, like, if a kid grows up in a household with a father and a mother... But just before I say this, I think that gay couples should be able to drop it.
		I think it's better to grow up in that household than an orphanage.
		But it's been scientifically proven that if you grow up in a two-parent household with a father and a mother, you're at a significantly... Oh my gosh.
		You're at a significantly higher chance to commit crime and be in prison for it.
		Like, that's a scientific fact.
		Yeah, I agree with that too, but then how do you feel about like, you know, in some gay couples, there's like, let's say like for men, there's the more feminine man and the more masculine man.
		Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a lie.
unidentified		I don't know.
		I don't know how that works really.
		Mom, parenthesis male.
		Hey mom, parenthesis male.
		Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
		Just because I feel like, how I personally feel about it, and I get called like misogynistic for this, but I feel like in relationships there should be the dad as the disciplinarian figure and the mother as the caretaker.
		I agree.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Women know their role.
unidentified		Yeah, that just sounds a little too far.
		That sounds a little too far.
		Oh my, that's... I had to whip up dinner, honey.
		Alright.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm kidding.
unidentified		No, I don't believe it.
		Thank you.
		Thank you for the questions and stuff, Ben.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, good night, guys.
		Yo, Lance.
		This one dude named Sam Owens just texted me on Instagram.
		Ignore him.
		He's literally... He's so annoying.
		I'll be playing Call of Duty and he... Okay, way back, you know when Jaden and I were, like, fighting?
		Yeah.
		Like, Nick.
		What?
		Remember when Jaden and I were in the Call of Duty game?
		Yeah.
		That kid kept joining?
		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		That's the same guy.
		He's the most annoying kid in the freakin' world.
		So Lance and Nicholas Ventura's playing Call of Duty?
		Lance and Nicholas Fenton was playing.
		No, we – no, it was – but we did once.
		Yeah, and then you went around and you were like, he's terrible at cod.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I was doing better than you!
unidentified		I was doing great!
		I got more kills than you!
		I got literally more kills than you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I won more rounds than you did.
unidentified		I say we have a deathmatch.
		If my real life doesn't play Warzone with me, I'm gonna be upset.
		Don't get me in this.
		I'm gonna use aimbot on all y'all.
		I don't even care.
		That's cheating.
		I don't care.
		Why can't I not play Warzone?
		You can.
		What do you mean?
		Why can't I play Warzone with Lance and Nick?
		Why am I not invited?
		That's what I was saying earlier!
		Lance, why didn't you invite him?
		I'm sorry, dude.
		Like, Lance, you have me, like, we talk every day almost, guy.
		This doesn't play Warzone with me.
		Don't get me in this.
		It's probably the most based background in the history of the world.
		Bam.
		Nice.
		What the fuck?
		Don't let him tell Michael.
		They kind of have, they have a crush on each other.
		Based?
		Okay.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Legit moment?
		Yeah, Michelle Obama, trans.
		Any of you guys believe that?
unidentified		Yes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a believer.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like he called her Michael like 10 times, so.
unidentified		But I've said that a million times, it's so funny.
		Alright, um, let's see.
		Michael Obama?
		I heard Obama in a speech called her Michael.
		Dude.
		Obama literally called her Michael.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Crotch picture?
		Anybody see that one?
		I don't know.
		Looks like she's packing.
		Packing a little heat down there.
unidentified		Hold on a second.
		Hey, be careful with that one, because that's how that one lady died, talking about that.
		Wait, wait, Nick, where do you think it was?
		Where do you think Obama was born, Nick?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He was not born in America, dude.
		He wasn't.
		Do you think he was?
unidentified		I think, I mean, he produced the birth certificate.
		Wait, who was streaming the Zoom?
		Someone apparently was streaming the Zoom and there was like 4,000 people watching.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
unidentified		On what?
		Oh yeah, that's a...
		I don't know.
		Who streamed it?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified		Was it Jaden?
		It could have been Jaden.
		He does a lot of that.
		I'm not sure.
		That would explain my Twitter.
		Yeah, that would explain why my DMs were full of croakers.
		It's sadly that I got absolutely no DMs out of this.
		It's spotlight me.
		Jaden was streaming, is what someone said.
		Oh, what the fuck, bro?
		Oh, was he?
		On what?
		Someone said Jaden.
		Hang on.
		Tell me where it is.
		We're still on there.
		We're still streaming.
		Is it on DLive?
		Yeah.
		It's on DLive?
		He's on DLive streaming it.
		No way.
		VicenteBurn.
		Here, I'm going to change my username for you.
		Make sure you guys follow me at truebylissing on Instagram.
		DLive!
		He's literally streaming this right now.
		Look.
		There you go, guys.
		VicenteBurn.
		See that?
		VicenteBurn.
		I spelled it out for you.
		Go ahead.
		Follow me.
		I really hope they didn't see what I just put up on the screen.
		Fans only.
		Only fans.
		Hey, if any of you weirdos want to follow me, there's actually a bunch of people watching right now.
		There's like 2.2K.
		I really hope they didn't see what I just put up on the screen.
		Hey, Nick Quintus.
		Oh, my God.
		You're about to get some hate.
		How do you feel about oil plummeting 20%?
		Oh, did it?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Did that happen?
unidentified		Right now.
		Right now.
		That's the headline.
		Who is Jaden McNeil?
		Why is he a verified partner?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Jaden McNeil is a... They're trying to get him in.
unidentified		No, he's a classic Anakin story.
unidentified		He fell to the dark side.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He fell to the light side.
unidentified		He fell to the dark side, dude.
		He fell to the dark side.
		You will too.
		I sense the good in you, Lance.
		No, dude.
		You keep saying that.
		How many people have been watching us for just days?
		He's been streaming this whole time, dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be like in Star Wars, Charlie Kirk is gonna be bashing me over and over and Lance will be watching behind and slow and Lance, you know, Charlie Kirk smashing me with a sledgehammer or something and Lance will watch and he'll pick Charlie Kirk up over and over.
unidentified		See, you're admitting that you're on the dark side because you're Palpatine.
		No, I'm Luke Skywalker!
		You're Palpatine.
		I'm Luke Skywalker.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're Palpatine.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		You're Palpatine lying on the ground.
		Help me!
		Come to the dark side!
		I see the light!
		Like, what?
		You're literally Palpatine.
		Jedi, try to take over!
		It's kind of creepy.
		It's like, whoa!
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Empire is the good guys.
		I mean, Republic, Cringe, Empire, Base.
		Galactic Order versus Rebels and Resistance and Chaos.
unidentified		Sign me up for the fire.
		I see you flexing, Nick.
		Alright, NetGamerNat, go ahead.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Am I muted here?
unidentified		Can you guys hear me?
		Yeah.
		Hey!
		Guys, people on Jaden's stream, I'm not the host.
		I can't let Jaden in.
		Yeah, I don't know how to let Jaden in in the first place.
		There's plenty of room.
		He's banned.
		He's IP banned.
		Is he?
		That's what he told me, yeah.
		I guess someone, someone removed him.
		I don't know what happened, but... I think, I think he may have gotten removed whenever other, like, TikTokers were trying to join and we were trying to... Alright, alright, can I ask my question here?
		Can I speak on, uh... No, we won't, we won't.
		Let's just mute him real quick.
		Somebody actually muted him!
		I'm an essential worker here.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You guys kept me up two hours.
unidentified		Go ahead, go ahead.
		Yes, so Lance, the question is when are you going to debate Nick?
		Is the real question.
		When are you going to debate Nick?
		What do you mean, debate him?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We all know, Lance.
unidentified		We know.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Come home, Lance.
unidentified		You're a Zoomer.
		You have Zoomer energy.
		You're so weird about that.
		I like my thing with Turning Point a little bit.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Lance, Lance, come home to the Zoomers.
unidentified		His midichlorian count is high.
unidentified		I like Turning Point a lot better, man.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're doing bad work, man.
unidentified		It's just not good.
		Bad work?
		I don't know what you're talking about.
		Come on, Lance.
		Just debate Nick.
		Lance looks at my following and he says, how can I achieve such a power?
		How can I learn such a power?
		And I'm like, not from a Jedi.
		Not from Turning Point USA.
		I have more followers than you, Nick.
		You know the ways of the Force?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		One must study all its aspects, not just the narrow-minded, dogmatic view of the Jedi.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		He's admitting you're on the bad stuff.
		Guys, guys, guys!
		I beg you!
		I found Jayden.
		I found Jayden.
		Jayden is unmuted.
		Somebody kick this Ralph guy.
		Like, that's actually, like, don't do that.
		What?
		Where's Ralph?
		Look at his background.
		Is that the guy with the Christ Church shooting behind him?
		No, no.
		Ralph is the guy with the literal Nazi symbol behind him.
		So, can you, like, kick him?
		What's the Nazi symbol?
		Yes, don't.
		Why would you want that on the stream?
		I could just stop his video.
		I could just stop his video.
		Stop his video.
		I just don't like seeing that.
		It's disgusting.
		People actually support that.
		Okay, RiceRealist is unmuted.
		We can hear Juden.
		I mean, not Juden, Jaden.
		Juden?
		Yikes!
		Yikes.
		Is Jaden on here?
		That's not Jaden.
		Where's Jaden?
		Yeah, I saw it.
		Where were you streaming it on? - Bye bye, Guy. .
		Why is everybody streaming at DLive?
		Because DLive is epic and based.
		That's where all the DROIPERS are!
		DROIPER GANG!
		Are you, like, do you play games?
		Do you have that voice?
		I think I know that name, that voice.
		Why do you guys keep booting Jaden?
		Why does he want to be in this so bad?
		We don't boot Jaden.
		We're not booting anybody.
		Well, he's trying to join.
		Tell him to join.
		Whatever, man.
		I don't really care.
		Yeah, I didn't know we were getting streamed, man.
		I should have plugged my social medias earlier.
		Speaking of social media, mine's right there, VicenteBurn.
		Oh, okay, yeah.
		He picks for sale.
		I don't even know how to do that.
		I'm too lazy to figure out how.
		That's worth going to right there.
		Nick actually just plugged himself in his face, Cam.
		Nick, I think everybody here already follows you on TikTok.
		I don't even know how to do that.
		I'm too lazy to figure out how.
		I feel that.
	It's okay.
	My social media is the same as my username.
	It's fine.
	Any questions?
	Any more questions?
	Yeah, there's more.
	There's a bunch more.
	There's a graphic that I made you.
	I have to go to bed.
	Can I shout out Temple OS before I log off for tonight?
	We have to, you know, shout out Temple OS.
	Fuck you, okay?
	Shout out to Temple OS, alright?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Before I log off.
unidentified		Hey, fuck that.
		Cut.
		Muted.
		Okay, um... Alright, I think I'm going to say goodbye because I'm about to pass out in my chair, so... Yeah, I'm probably going to get out.
		We can do it again.
		Later.
		For sure.
		Yeah, there's a question mark.
		All the gropers in the chat just started crying.
		I mean, look at Kyle Frank.
		Kyle Frank down here looks like he wants to cry.
		I wanna, I wanna, I wanna unmute somebody that was like mad the whole live.
		What is he doing?
		What is that face?
		I like his stuffed animals.
		Bro, you got stuffed animals and everything?
		A beta male right there.
		He's a beta male right there!
		What are you talking about?
		These are so mean.
		This dude's lit.
		I like him.
		Hey, hey, hey.
		Unmute him.
		I don't care what he has to say.
		Unmute Kyle.
		Unmute Kyle.
		If you're gonna roast him, you gotta let him hit back.
		Unmute him now!
		Kyle, we can hear you.
		What is poppin', my friends?
		Good morning at this point.
		Quick shoutout to Rice Realist for streaming this whole thing.
		Appreciate it for all you guys.
		Um, well, besides for the roasting, thank you for accompanying my stuffed animals.
		That one's named Mary Kate the Beagle.
		I've had that thing since I was like two years old.
		Gave it to my uncle, so thank you for making fun of me for that one.
		Um, but something I just wanted to say, just as somebody who is spectating this, before Nick even joined this chat, um, and as somebody who's involved with like the whole campus conservative sort of like turning point college republican thing where I live in New York State, is before Nick joined, I like, I'm uh, the conservative values, I don't know what your name is, sorry.
		But you were calling, I'm not saying this is a bad thing, I'm saying this as just general, this is what you're doing, you can go around the table and watch it, you were saying that Nick was racist, that his supporters were racist, and some things along these lines.
		And as this conversation has progressed, I've seen, I've, we've all seen this transformation of you and a lot of these other TikTok people into more, being a lot more accepting of Nick's side and accepting of his supporters and his movement, and I think that's, Something that's very, I think it's very admirable that we've seen from you and I think it's a very good sign.
		Well, the thing is, you know, whenever, whenever Nick's, you know, I, I never had like entertained the idea of like, I guess backing up Nick Fuentes.
		only time I've ever seen Nick Fuentes is like the the times that people try to bash him on YouTube you know and like I don't know like I I've never I've never done my own personal research into you know Nick's like you know beliefs and stuff other than just what I saw on YouTube and so yes of course you know like Nick brought up earlier he gets a lot of negative attention and so it gives him a bad light and so you know it it does it does hurt his
		you know persona in the public you know before people even give him a chance and so you know I yeah I do agree totally that you know as as things have progressed and I you know I've been I've begun to you know be Be more understanding, I guess.
		You know, be a little bit more, you know, open.
		Yeah, and expanding on that, before the college semester got, you know, interrupted by this coronavirus thing, I was able to give a presentation during my College Republicans on a topic that Nick doesn't really talk about often, but it's sort of, I wanted to encapsulate some disagreements between conservatives.
		I did a presentation on healthcare.
		And I, the main idea of it was using the government to help people is a good idea.
		And just on that issue alone, just me like being alone, like I thought I was alone in that room, giving that discussion to a lot of like libertarian conservative minded kids.
		After I gave that presentation, I was like debating on people, I felt like I was debating a Steven Crowder video with some of these kids.
		But anyways, After I gave that presentation, a lot of the members came up to me and they thanked me for giving that perspective on something as simple as health care because they were scared to say that they thought that something like universal health care in this way that Germany or Japan does it, not like Medicare for all like Sanders wants, but using the government to help people in that way is a good idea and that they were afraid to share that opinion because they thought they would be alone.
		And we call this the spiral of silence in the journalism field, in the communications field.
		It's five in the morning, I'm tired.
		The spiral of silence is where if you think you're alone, you're not going to speak.
		And something that Nick has been able to grasp onto in the conservative movement is that he is one of the only people, like most visible out there people, that are sharing his views on immigration, his views on race, his views on certain lobbies in the government, that he is the one And his movement is going to lead to more and more people being comfortable with sharing their positions.
		And as you said previously, you had this perception of Nick and his movement as sort of this out there, internet, dark corner, alt-right thing, I think some of you were calling him.
		No, I'm not saying you called him that.
		I think I heard that.
		For sure, you know, and I think the biggest thing is, you know, seeing Nick come on TikTok.
		able to listen to him and to us, I guess, I think that's, again, that's very admirable of you.
		And I think that we made a lot of progress tonight.
		For sure.
		You know, and I think the biggest thing is, you know, seeing Nick come on TikTok, because that was like, you know, I guess for all of us, you know, people who do politics on TikTok, like, you know, whenever, you know, Nick comes on the scene, of course, it's like one of those things like, oh my gosh, everybody hears about it.
		I mean, the man has 2,600 followers, I think, or had 2,600 followers on TikTok and had, you know, like over a thousand people on his live.
	So, I mean, I think that goes to show, you know.
	Like his, you know, fans, dedication, his, you know, followers, dedication and everything to, you know, his movement that he's begun.
	And so, you know, I, I definitely, uh, I definitely think that, you know, it, I think this opportunity, it's given an opportunity for all of us to, I guess, hear him out, you know, especially for all of us who maybe had not before.
	And so it, uh, offers us a little, Vicente really.
	What are you talking about?
	Also, a quick comment on the Rice Reelers stream, the chat.
	I love it.
	They're calling me the chat autist.
	Yeah, I was watching that.
	I approve of this label.
	The quick thing about me is I was actually, this is going to be the funniest thing you've ever heard in your life, I was actually diagnosed with a processing delay when I was three years old.
	If you know what that is, that actually is a learning disability, very similar to autism.
	So it is an accurate statement to call me the chat autist.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, this is exactly why we do these live streams.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Very good.
unidentified		I think that was awesome comments, honestly.
		So thank you.
		This is exactly why we do these live streams.
		Just so you can have everybody's view out there.
		Oh yeah, for sure.
		No, I mean, listen, I am open to hearing anybody's point of view.
		That doesn't mean, you know, that Nick going into this knew that he was going to change everybody's minds, you know, that whenever he got in here, you know, that the point, the point was for all of us to.
		What is that?
		And I'm telling you how to support this.
		Oh, that's what they're watching.
		TikToks.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Oh, it's so much.
		No, it's not Nick.
		I know it wasn't.
		It wasn't Nick videos.
		I don't think he's watching TikToks.
		No, I'm literally laying in my bed right now, dude.
		laughter Yeah.
		Anyways.
		And so that's what I was trying to figure out who that was before I finished talking anyways.
		But yeah, no, going into this, everybody wanted to, you know, ask Nick questions and find out, you know, further what he believed, you know, from, you know, cause it's a different story whenever you're talking to someone, you know, one-on-one having them answer your questions and having them, you know, give you insight on what they believe rather than what, you know, some journalist or some YouTube video says about somebody.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm a human being.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
unidentified		My ad on DLive is on the Rice Real Estate.
		Let me find my ad.
		I don't even remember it.
		My Twitter is... Hold on, let me go to my profile.
		I don't remember the ad.
		It is at Kyle Frank the Jew.
		You can just look up Kay Frank on Twitter.
		It'll all come up.
		And on DLive, I think I'm just Kyle Frank.
		So you can follow me there if you want.
		I'll link it in this on my chat right now.
		It just said hi friends in the chat.
		Um, everyone follow me on live cams.
		I go live every Monday at 8pm.
		Vicente, you're getting muted.
		Shut up.
		Yeah, Vicente.
		Anybody want to see that?
		We'll see.
		Monday.
		Oh my gosh.
		Shut up.
		My fans only?
		I hate that stuff.
		It's so weird.
		Sorry for the interruption, but they were gonna ask me about MBMIV live chat and I just wanted to get that out.
		You're fine.
		Are you good now?
		I mean, I'd like to stay unmuted because I like talking, but... I think we're gonna probably close it up anyway soon, so... I mean, it's 5am.
		It's too late for me to go to bed.
		I'm just gonna stay up.
		We'll probably do this tomorrow.
		I'll be on tomorrow.
		I don't even know if I want to go to sleep at this point, like...
		Sleep is for the weak.
		Like, I don't know if it's worth it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You guys don't do the all-nighter thing?
unidentified		I like the enthusiasm here, DOI.
		Thank you.
		I don't know about Lance and Nick.
		Lance and Nick seem like they've already met Nicholas.
		We're best buddies.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're test tube buddies.
unidentified		Not a big deal.
unidentified		No, we're not.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Grown in the same test tube.
unidentified		I would also like to point out that I have Nicholas's personal Snapchat, and he has me added there.
		Oh my gosh.
		True, true.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		So does Lance.
unidentified		There's like 2,000 people watching.
		Don't give that out if he doesn't want it to be.
		No, I'm not giving it out, no.
		Kings only, kings only Snapchat.
		Hey, listen, okay?
		As long as I can slide in those Twitter DMs, that's all that matters.
		You got it, baby, you got it.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You got everybody on the streams cool.
		I'm vibing with you guys.
		You guys are chill.
		You're not like, you know, sometimes I get on a stream and people are like, oh, you're you hate women and they're simps or whatever, but you guys are based.
unidentified		So it's nice not being on a stream of Destiny every other month.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, that guy sucks.
unidentified		Like this person right here.
		You know that one dude?
		He's like a liberal.
		He's like an upcoming liberal guy.
		I think his name, his YouTube is like Vaushan or something.
		He's not a liberal.
		He's a fucking communist.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I hate that guy.
unidentified		He's, he's literally fat and a communist and like a pedophile.
		So it's like, what's even the point here?
		Would you debate him?
		Would you debate him?
		Yeah, I said I would debate him.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He refuses to, uh, to agree to the challenge.
unidentified		Debate Heisenberg.
		I want to see that.
		Yes, debate Heisenberg.
		Debate Heisenberg on TikTok.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Who's Heisenberg?
unidentified		He's a communist.
		He's an anarcho-communist.
		He's got some mental issues.
		She's flipping us off.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, why is she flipping us off?
unidentified		Look at her background.
		It's kind of cringe.
		It's Ocasio-Cortez.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's very cringe.
unidentified		I just noticed that!
		Why would you frame that?
		That's like literally saying, I'm not gonna go that far, but like... Would you frame garbage, honestly?
		Yeah, how would you frame garbage?
		I'll go that far, bro.
		I'll go further.
		Yo, why would you frame garbage?
		Why would you?
		Okay, I'm not gonna say that.
		Okay, but... Here, DM between.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She don't like that.
unidentified		She needs to go back to being a bartender.
		She needs to go back to being a bartender.
		She's so mad, she can't even talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She needs to go back to the kitchen.
unidentified		I'm not gonna go with that one because we'll get cancelled there.
		I am.
		I'm cancer proof.
		That's so dumb.
		Who said that?
		I thought Nick said he's cancel-proof.
		No, I'm cancel-proof.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		When that guy on her campaign got fired, that's when her career tanked, because he was the guy pulling all the strings.
unidentified		And when she got exposed for taking millions of dollars.
		What is she saying?
		Unmute her.
		Unmute her.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's hear her.
		She's probably going to be rude and obnoxious.
		I'm taking bets.
		How much you want to bet she's going to be rude and obnoxious?
unidentified		All right, here we go.
		Stop.
		She's unmuted.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, where'd she go?
unidentified		She's unmuted.
		Did she leave?
		We can't hear you.
		We can't hear you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, tech department.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're unmuted, but we can't hear you.
unidentified		It's because she likes AOC.
		She probably left.
		I can't even see you on screen.
		No, she's here.
		She has to connect.
		Just talk.
		Make sure your microphone's connected.
		Okay, hello.
		We can't hear you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Democrat technology.
unidentified		Okay, hello.
		I can't hear you.
		Try again.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Go to your settings on Zoom and check your audio input.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Click mute on the bottom left, the arrow next to it, and check your input.
unidentified		Make sure you got the right microphone selected.
		Good try.
		No, it says she's muted on the call right now.
		Unmute her.
		I just did.
		No, now she's muted.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		But her mic was mutable.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Or un-mutable.
unidentified		You see where it says mute at the bottom left?
		No, she's just broken.
		Now it says un-muted.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Make sure you set up a join call to the IT department.
unidentified		Try and unplug your headphones.
		I don't think we've tried this hard to talk to anybody in this call tonight.
		Thank you for calling tech support.
		It's because of AOC.
		She didn't like that.
		She didn't like that one bit.
		Oh, now she's just got the V. Is she back?
		Did you get it fixed?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Rib.
unidentified		Well, now I want her to talk.
unidentified		She's gonna come in fired up now after you said that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, now I'm anticipating it.
unidentified		Let's go.
		No, fix your audio.
		No, we can't hear you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna take some ibuprofen.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My head hurts.
unidentified		My head hurts from looking at ASD that long.
		Let's go.
		There you go, now your head's covering her, so it'll be a lot better.
		Before you can- Before- Oh, no.
		Why does she have three of them?
		Are you a felon in New York?
		Like, idolize AOC with, like, three posts.
		She's a felon in New York.
		She's a felon.
		AOC is a bitch.
		I hope you didn't pay for those.
		Are you from Brooklyn, or from Queens?
		She looks like a donkey.
		He bought three of them?
		That's, like, that's not a good investment.
		AOC looks like a donkey.
		She looks like a donkey?
		She looks like a donkey.
		Have you seen those memes that they post?
		They take her teeth and they replace it on a donkey's teeth and it looks the same.
		Oh, she has horse teeth.
		That's so dumb.
		Can someone spotlight her again?
		She's still mad.
		How's mad?
		Fix your mic.
		Unmute it in case she ever figures out how to fix it.
		How do you know anything about politics if you can't even fix your mic?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She wants to tell us how to run society.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She can't even run her computer.
unidentified		Oh my god.
		That's like so fourth grade.
		Your mom!
		Doing your mom, doing, doing your mom.
		Shut up.
		Do you fix it yet?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Peanut butter jelly.
unidentified		She doesn't know how.
		I was gonna say a really bad joke, but I'm not going to.
		Is the mic input right on your computer?
		Like, did you go to the arrow by the mute?
		And it says like- I tried it.
		Damn.
		Go on, setting.
		That just shows you that God doesn't love you.
		People that like AOC are just inferior.
		You should better call her uncle and fix it.
		Hey, just unplug everything and just talk.
		Do sign language or something.
		Maybe AOC's way easier.
		It's not hard, dude.
		This is like the easiest thing in the world.
		Hey, she's struggling.
		She's a liberal.
		He said I'm a leftist.
		I'm a leftist.
		That's even worse.
		She denies the label of liberal.
		She has embraced leftism.
		Lance, she had some choice words for you.
		Do you believe in socialism?
		Oh, that's kind of cringe.
		That's kind of cringe.
		Yeah, she said I'm a democratic socialist.
		Yo, Jayden?
		Yo, somebody unmute Jayden.
		Jayden's in there.
		And this time I can't hear her at all.
		Who's Jayden?
		Jaden McNeil, the boy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and Beardson?
unidentified		Yo, I'd meet Beardson and Jaden.
		Oh my gosh, who are these people?
		My boys.
		Yeah.
		Beardson's laughing.
		It ain't working.
		Beardson.
		I'll let Beardson call a mask first.
		Let's get Beardson and Jaden.
		I got to self-distance for a second.
		There we go, Jaden.
		All right, my man.
		What's up?
		Is there a way?
		I feel like the kid that wasn't invited to the sleepover right now, is there a way that I can be unmuted?
		I was booted when you were trying to get the guy who kept moving his mic and vaping back in.
		Is there a way that you can remove me from the ban list?
		You're not on the band.
		That's why you're on it right now.
		No, I'm on my phone.
		I want to get on my computer.
		Jaden is hijacking the system right now.
		I have no idea how to do that, honestly.
		Jaden is at the innovator.
		I don't think anybody banned anybody, though.
		That's a thing.
		No, what happened was, whenever we were getting Nick videos in here, we had to kick somebody out, and that just happened to be Jaden.
		Awww.
		But there isn't even a hundred people in the call anymore.
		There's like 66.
		Yeah, no, that was before.
		We had like three people in the waiting list and then like a hundred people in the thing.
		Oh, facts, facts, facts.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
		Facts.
		Because you know, when, when Nick tweets out that he's going on a zoom call, everybody joins.
		Is that what happened?
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Wiper arm videos.
		I'm here to turn Nick videos into an irony, bro.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, he will never be an irony, bro.
		He's too Chad, too Chad to be an irony.
		No, he is unironic, bro.
unidentified		Should I unmute my mic chat?
		I think Nick fell asleep, guys.
		What, me?
		Like, all I see is like half of your eye.
		Yeah, I'm just... I'm just chillin'.
		What is this?
		What is this?
		These zoomers are weak!
		Hey, just give Violet the... Yeah, Violet the... Yeah, I've made Violet the host.
		What is this?
		What is this?
		Zoomers are weak.
		Like as soon as Jaden gets in, we all leave.
		You get to Violet the admin or whatever.
		Yeah, Violet the host.
		I think I'm going to leave in a minute, dude.
		You get a chair, dude.
		I don't feel like going to bed at this point.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		They're terrified.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Terrified of the irony, bro, in the gym.
unidentified		I'm not terrified of anything.
		1v1 me in car, bro.
		I'm not afraid of anything, Nick.
		1v1 me in car.
		No, you're pretty based.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You're pretty fearless.
unidentified		Fearless?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll agree.
		Who's that black guy giving us the finger?
		Disrespect.
unidentified		Where?
unidentified		Look at this guy.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This black guy giving us two middle fingers.
unidentified		Fuck you, dude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Right back at ya.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Fuck your moms.
		Unmute him.
		I want to see what he has to say, honestly.
		I'm sure it's very intellectual.
		I would not encourage unmuting him.
		Hey bud, you're unmuted.
		Talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Just don't say the n-word.
unidentified		Well, somebody else, uh, what's it called?
		Yeah, if I can't say it, you can't either.
		Yeah, for real.
		Well, he didn't want to unmute himself.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Unmute the- is the Indian girl ready, or what's her deal?
unidentified		Let's see.
		Alright, I will see you all later.
		How about Craig?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Craig is a straight up.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's got a question, I can tell.
unidentified		Tell the AOC girls to come back on if she's got feet.
		There she goes!
		She's here!
		Hooray!
		AOC knockoff is here.
		I think you know who the Nicholas Dweeb was.
		Oh!
		Nicholas Dweeb.
		I was literally just here to talk to MK and like Gabby and Jordan and then I Stumbled upon this and it was quite a mess, not gonna lie.
		Um.
		No, here you are.
		A mess.
		Also, I do have three AOC pictures and multiple sets of pants.
		That's French.
		Do you have two feet?
		I'm really sorry about that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I call them AOC.
unidentified		We'll pray for you.
		I hope you got them for free.
		Oh, I appreciate that.
		I'm sorry you wasted your money on a degenerate bartender.
		I've actually also seen her in person in fan culture.
		Oh my gosh, that's actually like the opposite of, like, flexing on us.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She's probably short.
		I feel like any man could defeat her in a fight.
		And what does that say about her as the political leader?
unidentified		She literally just gets laid, and then this whole bullshit attitude you've got going.
		People have literally offered to pay Nick to have sex with them because he's- Hey, hey, hey, don't talk about that!
		That is an invalid argument.
		True.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Factual.
unidentified		I can't post that anymore.
		I was recording.
		Shit.
		Are you gonna actually talk to us or just gonna like... Oh, I did have a question, but... Yeah, go ahead.
		Sorry.
		I got distracted by your IT jokes that I just thought were so funny.
		They were actually pretty funny.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She liked it.
unidentified		Everyone was... The whole squad was laughing except for you because you were... She was laughing.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She liked it.
unidentified		Okay.
		Go ahead.
		Um, my question was, uh, like, a genuine question.
		Uh, like, I didn't understand why you guys repeatedly would go into different groups.
		Like, I believe, um, I forget his name, but there was a boy who was talking about trans rights and, like, LGBTQIA issues earlier, oh, much earlier, not this late.
		And he was talking about things and you guys would, like, directly go and, um, I guess, just go and see like the bad parts of the movement.
		So like, I guess my question is, I don't understand why in all progressive movements, you guys choose to like explicitly see like the parts of the movement that are bad.
		Like, of course, there are going to be feminists that are feminazis, I guess, or that hate men and don't portray the movement as it is.
		Or of course, there's trans people that molest kids.
		Yeah, exactly.
		There are tons of people that are bad in every single progressive or any single movement, if you were to look into that.
		But I just don't understand why you guys like to pinpoint those and take those and be like, oh, these are the people that represent the entirety of it.
		You know, like, that's just nice.
		Because of those other spokespeople.
		If I may answer with an answer that hasn't been said yet tonight, the reason we pick out these sort of examples of like the extreme parts of your movement, or any movement for that matter, is we see these people as like the logical conclusion of that line of thinking.
		So like when we're talking about transgenderism, we're talking about gay rights and stuff like that, The reason pedophilia and NAMBLA and those groups were brought up was that the line of thinking and the arguments in favor of transgenderism, we see it as it can eventually be a way to justify pedophilia or justify other acts that we consider deviant or I'm sure even you consider deviant.
		So that's one of the main reasons we picked those out.
		So I could refute that argument by saying that the right-wing movement, or people in the right-wing movement, could be passing legislation to be openly homophobic, racist.
		Yeah, yeah.
		And that's you agreeing with me, that there are parts of every movement that maybe the logical conclusion is something like that.
		That's agreeing with my statement.
		That wasn't my general question, but yeah, I am conceding, I guess, to the fact that there are parts of every movement that can be seen in a negative light.
		Oh, do I have to separate myself from that opinion?
		Is Nick's video still on?
		and it's the natural conclusion of any straight male who thinks logically do you know the scientific study that when men to separate myself from that opinion when men see is nick video still on when men see two men kissing they have the same mental reaction that they do to seeing like a bowl of maggots that's a scientific study i'm distancing yeah i'm distancing yeah i'm I do not agree with this.
		We're not homophobic.
		He might be, but we're not.
		What are you talking about?
		I don't think that's too accurate.
		I think they are still normal people.
		I mean normal as, you know, as a human being.
		But, like, comparing them to insects, yeah, that's a no-no.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's not comparing that to them.
		It's comparing the – there was an actual study that said – I know what Beardson is talking about where they said that men's – their revulsion, they measured their revulsion.
		It was on the same level as seeing that.
		That is a scientific study.
		But it's not saying like they're maggots.
		It's just saying that the level of revulsion, that disgust emotion, was similar in those two instances.
		And all that is to say that there's something maybe natural or intuitive about being prejudiced on that subject, that's all.
		And I think, you know, how can you... I don't know, some of these things, like racist, obviously you could say, like, That's not true.
		Hating all black people is, we could say that that's wrong.
		And, you know, conservatives can occupy a space where, you know, we're not actually like racist.
		And we could all objectively say meaningfully that some of that is bad.
		But being homophobic, it's like, or transphobic, you like hardly can be Christian without also being homophobic.
		You can hardly be Christian without being, I mean, what does that actually mean?
		I mean, I reject the existence of trans people.
		Is that not transphobic?
unidentified		There are people who exist.
		Jesus Christ.
		Well, I just feel like there are people who exist who are Christian and both gay or Christian and straight, and they just generally don't feel the need to push their beliefs on other people.
		And honestly, I barely agree with anything you say, but I respect you as a debater.
		You get your points across very well.
		But I just don't know if any of your ideologies are something that anyone should follow for You're wrong.
		That's the urban New York mindset.
		- It's the force of hitchhiking.
		- We don't all agree with Nick.
		- One debater, one person on political TikTok.
		- Yeah, you do.
		Not all of us agree with you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		In your heart of hearts, you agree with me, Lance.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I said the good in you.
unidentified		You were supposed to bring balance, not leave it in darkness, Lance.
		We don't agree, not all of us agree with Nick.
		You swore to Troy Connick, not join them.
		The fact that you guys are letting it happen, thus proves that you're not going to do anything to stop it.
		It's free speech.
		He can say whatever he wants, but I don't really agree with him.
		And I completely agree with that.
		I do.
		I don't agree with him.
		But I'm allowing him to have his free speech.
		Okay, that's an interesting way to look at the whole situation.
		It's called free speech.
		That's exactly how it is.
		It's literally the first amendment.
		Do you not agree with the constitution?
		I literally have it right here.
		Do you agree with this document right here?
		I mean, we don't agree with it, but we both agree with it.
		Based constitution.
		Have it on me at all times.
		Based?
		Yo, based?
		Based.
		We'll read you.
		Literally have it right here.
		Yo, Lance with the pocket constitution?
		Oh no, it's actually a legit constitution, look.
		He's legit liberal.
		An actual scroll.
		Bam, got him, first amendment.
		We have constitutional rights.
		Do you know what that is?
		Have you ever read it?
		He stole that from the Library of Congress.
		No, I actually did.
		Oh wait, don't tell anybody that though.
		Yeah, yeah!
		Yeah!
		Why are you, like, screaming, dude?
		He's, like, so hyped up right now.
		I'm hyped.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		4 AM hyped, man.
unidentified		I pulled up the Constitution.
		Now he's all, like, insane.
		My problem with AOC is she has not responded to any of my DMs.
		Same.
		Literally same.
		I just want a toe, AOC, for America, you know?
		Just a toe.
		I have actually beaten her as well.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		AOC is a woman.
		No business being a representative.
		Sorry, ladies.
		That's a man's job.
unidentified		Okay, okay, that's a little bit too bad.
		I'm not with that.
		There's a lot of smart women out there that can be senators and stuff.
		See, we don't agree with everything.
		Wait, wait, Nick, Nick, Nick.
		What do you think about the 19th Amendment?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I told you, repeal.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We already covered this.
unidentified		You think that you don't think women should be able to vote?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Uh, no.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon.
unidentified		That's a little bit crazy.
		If I could go back in time... Dude, that's literally... Are you... That's a little bit... That's actually sexist.
		Why?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You guys are simping.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's very pathetic to see.
unidentified		We're not simping.
		We're just being normal human beings.
		No, this is not a normal question.
		What's normal is this, okay?
		If I may add on to the voting question here, I'm not really from a sex or a race point of view, but there have been studies over time where when voting has been expanded to the general population, so in the beginning of the country where it was only landowning whites could vote, you had the average grade level of a speech of a presidential candidate was a grade of 12.
		Vote kept getting expanded and expanded to more people, to non-landowning citizens, Drop back down to, I believe, eight or nine.
		Then, obviously, after the Civil War, when African-Americans were given the right to vote, I think it stayed the same a little bit, but then went down as the new demographics were brought in.
		And then when women were given the vote in the 1920s, I'm not saying I disagree with that.
		I disagree with the pan-VMW thing of women voting.
		Sorry to cuck a little bit there, but I'm just giving a wider perspective on it.
		No, no, this guy's got the right idea.
		Here's what we do.
		We slip it in.
		We don't tell them that we're taking the right to vote away.
		Why are you talking to me?
		Let me finish my point.
		And as we've gone, and even in the 1960s, when the final voting reforms of the Voting Rights Act, we've seen the grade level of presidential speeches go way down through the roof, through the floor.
		This is how you get people like President Trump, where We can, or me and Nick, I'm sure would agree that Trump is a genius, that he does know what he's doing, but with his speaking patterns and his style of marketing, it is lowest common denominator.
		And the reason for that is because we have a lot of people voting.
		Just a wider perspective on that.
		I agree.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump is a genius.
unidentified		Yeah, so here's what we do.
		We repeal the 19th on the grounds of like, oh, there's just too many people voting, and then we just don't give women the right to vote back.
		That's what we do.
		This guy's got the... See, Kyle's got the right idea.
		We slip it in.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We hide it.
		No more votes.
		We're taking their votes.
		Take their coat.
unidentified		I have totally 100% against that, but... Take her coat.
		Yeah, 100% against that.
		It's America.
		Sipping for girls.
		How is that cringe, dude?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Please, ma'am.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Please, ma'am.
unidentified		You can't have the right to vote.
		Can I just have a little bit of coochie?
		You have to stand up to the femoid menace.
		This girl kind of roasted you, Nick.
		I'm just saying, I'm sorry.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You have to stand up to the femoid menace.
unidentified		This girl kind of roasted you, Nick.
		I'm just saying.
		I'm sorry.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I didn't hear her talking.
unidentified		It sounds like you don't get laid that often, I'm just saying.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Christian.
unidentified		It sounds like you get laid too often.
		Do you get laid a lot?
		Because that would be gross.
		Yeah.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You got a high body count?
unidentified		Ew!
unidentified		So, correct.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm saving it for Mary.
unidentified		Abstinence gang.
		I'm saving it for my wife.
		What?
		Abstinence gang?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
		Me and Lance, we're right there.
		Yet again, me and Lance.
unidentified		Teaming up.
		No, no, no.
		Full cell test tube buddies.
		Really?
		Now we know why you guys are like this.
		No.
		We're like this because you're like this.
		That's why.
		Okay.
		Yeah, that's right.
		You kind of came in kind of hot, and so they're really just giving you what you gave back, honestly.
		Because if you paid attention to the whole conversation, everybody was chill, and they all were normal, until you came in super hot, flipping everybody off, talking smack.
		I'll be honest, I rose to the occasion.
		This is how I talk, but okay.
		Snooty, snooty, snooty.
		Wait, wait, do you also like Ilhan Omar?
		So if you would just come out and just be normal and talk like a regular person.
		This is how I talk.
		No, but you're being very rude.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Snooty.
unidentified		Snooty.
		You're being very rude.
		Snooty.
		Wait, wait.
		Do you also like Ilhan Omar?
		Do you also like Ilhan Omar?
		Yeah, I do actually.
		She married her brother.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yohan Omar is based, actually.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She stands up to the Israel lobby.
unidentified		Your mom is based.
		Yeah, she stands up to the Israel lobby.
		My mom is based.
		She doesn't stand up to the Israel lobby for a reason.
		Yeah, and she also married them for her Palestinian friends.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		She is.
unidentified		She rules.
		She doesn't care about them.
		She also married her brother, too.
		Yeah.
		Nick, come on.
		You've grown so much in the way you look at politics.
		She married her brother.
		Can we just get past this?
		Can you guys unmute Hubert?
		I think it is.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		Why?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is the political political theory.
unidentified		I said, you've grown a lot since your parents made you take away TikTok.
unidentified		None of that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I've grown a lot since what?
unidentified		Can you guys unmute Hubert?
		I think it is.
		Why?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Hubert?
unidentified		Yeah.
		They're just asking me to do it.
		This guy legit has a lightsaber and that's pretty cool.
		Yeah, I just got a DM saying, make everyone pay attention to my lightslaver.
		Fuck this junior tech support.
		I'm reading the message I got.
		Unmute lightsaber guy, I kinda wanna see what he has to say.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, unmute Beanjamin.
unidentified		Bean is here?
		Yeah, yeah, Bean.
		I love Bean.
		I saw him come in, I'm trying to...
		I just want to jump in here.
		Yo, no fucking way!
		Bean, you here?
		Baddy isn't here so I just want to take his role real quick.
		Dean, is this just a parody or is this actually you?
		Can we stay respectful here and kind of like not just start bashing people?
		We're having a really good conversation.
		I just want to kind of bring it back a little bit.
		Bro, civility is over.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		This is late night gamer hour.
unidentified		Is this actually Dean or not?
		No mods.
		No mods.
		This is gamer hour.
		I don't think that's really him.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My head hurts.
unidentified		Yeah, just mute him if he's not talking.
		Yeah, but he has a little fan.
		Don't take our lord's name in vain.
		Let's get the jokester.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Let's get the guy with the joke.
		I want to hear Max Russo.
		Let's get the joke in chat.
unidentified		Why are they all changing their name to Violet, please?
		Because I'm the one letting people talk.
		This guy's still flipping us off.
		It's kind of mean.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The black kid?
unidentified		Benjamin, is that you?
		Yep.
		Hey!
		Okay, so it is the real one.
		Alright, I'll leave him on.
		Who has the joke?
		Matt Russo.
		Let's hear the joke.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Lay it on me.
unidentified		I'll have to look for him.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		He's on page one.
unidentified		Oh no, I'm doing the other thing.
		Alright, can y'all hear me?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
		Alright, so a little joke about the whole premarital sex thing.
		So, I saw this one on TikTok.
		And it was like, why is a girl called a prostitute because men die, but a guy is praised if he sleeps with many women?
		Right?
		Well, if key opens many locks, it is master key.
		But if lock opens by many keys, it is just a shitty lock.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, true.
		Great job.
		I've heard James also told me that one a long time ago.
		I keep typing, so that's why I have to mute you.
		Why does this guy have a Joker mask on?
		Are you doing your tech support job right now?
		Bro, chill with that.
		Guys, chill with all that crap.
		It's kind of annoying.
		Epic.
		Yo, lightsaber man?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Face Star Wars respecter?
		He's telling Lance to come to the dark side.
		No, no.
unidentified		He's unmuted.
		Come on, lightsaber kid.
		Yes, yes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Racism is a pathway to many abilities.
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified		Kidding, kidding.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Jokes.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just kidding.
unidentified		Oh, let me see if I can find my lightsaber.
		Oh, wait.
		Boys, lightsabers unite.
		Okay.
		I use this for my videos.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My lightsaber's upstairs.
unidentified		This is what we call a sword fight?
		Go get it.
		My lightsaber is over there somewhere.
		If you don't have a lightsaber, then are you really a gamer?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I have a Yoda Force FX lightsaber from Sharper Image.
unidentified		I don't have a lightsaber.
unidentified		I instead worship the Oaks, brother.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, right.
unidentified		Yo, shoutout, uh, but a lightsaber could cut that in half, so...
		What's up Beardson?
		What's up Nick?
		What is she saying?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		The girl's trying to talk.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's the girl saying?
unidentified		Wow.
		Callie wants to be unmuted.
		Could you guys unmute her?
		She has an actual question.
		I have an actual question.
		I have an actual question.
		Can we bring back the lightsaber?
		Dixie Zoomer wants to talk?
		Yes, please.
		What's up, Beardson?
		What's up, Nick?
		I've been a subscriber since 2017.
		What's up, bro?
		My question is for Lance and for Nick Videos.
		And it's a question I've had for a long time.
		um, With TPUSA, like, what's y'all's actual goal for the country?
		Like, where does it lead?
		Nick Videos is not a part of Turning Point.
		Yeah, I'm not a part of Turning Point yet, so... Whatever.
		But you said you wanted to become an ambassador, so... Yeah, but I'm not a part of it yet, so I don't know a whole lot about it.
		Okay, so don't worry about the Turning Point then, just Nick Videos and Lance.
		Like, where do you want the country to be 20 years down the road?
		Not socialist.
		Okay.
		They're socialist now.
		Not socialist.
		All right.
		I don't want it to go into like – I think that the biggest goal that we need to look for – that we need to push towards is just teaching people that ideas from the radical left are just – they're not good.
		And they're not going to dive towards getting away from that – those radical leftist ideologies.
		And you can look, you can look at it from many different perspectives on how you want to get there.
		You can look at it from Nick Fuentes' perspective of just shutting everything, shutting- Oh, there's only one way.
		No, no, no.
		There's only one way, but I just wanted to hear y'all's way.
		I mean honestly like it's just I think that at this point in time going we're gonna become radical like we're just there's so many so many like people that are just being enlightened enlightened I guess by the progressive movement.
		So if Nick's politics aren't the answer, y'all have an answer?
		Or no?
		Are we just supposed to just go with the flow?
		I can't read that either, that's what I'm saying.
		think is going to happen.
		I can't read that.
		I can't read that either.
		That's what I'm saying.
		Am I retarded?
		No.
		It's backwards.
		We need dyslexia to read that.
		I think at this point, I'm sorry, I'm kind of like, messing up my words, I'm really tired.
		Yeah, me too.
		No, you're good Nick, go.
		I think that at this point, it's just, we're gonna, we're moving towards the radical left, like even the GOP is moving to the left over time.
		Right.
		Um, I just, I, and there's such like an uprising of the progressive movement and everything, like with Bernie Sanders and AOC and Ilhan Omar.
		I just, I think it's, what's going to happen is, is we're going to be like the UK.
		We're going to move towards the radical left for a little while, and then we're going to realize that it fucked everything up.
		And then we're going to go through what the UK went through, like with Boris Johnson now.
		This dude literally joined to flex.
		Right, but I think to get to the radical left, it would require, you know, a sort of demographic change that you couldn't just shift back from.
		So like, unless we go Nick's route, Nick Fuentes' route, how, are we just supposed to lose?
		Like, is that what you tell the common man?
		Well, you know, just, we're gonna lose, but- Well, we gotta debate ideas and convince people that leftist ideas are wrong.
		You can't, you can't just- I don't disagree.
		You've got to change people's minds.
		That's what politics is about.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Lance, I'll take you to the south side of Chicago and you can bring your constitution.
unidentified		We'll show it to all those people.
		We'll go drive to McKinley Park.
		We're supposed to change people's minds.
		You guys are just wanting to ban and stop all immigration.
		Yes.
		We've got to change people's minds coming into America.
		My thing is, if we could change people's minds, then why do blacks still vote overwhelmingly Democrat?
		Like, how have we not even changed their mind?
		And they've been with us for the longest.
		It is getting better.
		Yeah, we gave them $1,200.
		Okay, they went from 98% to 91% in eight years.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, they went from 98% to 91% in eight years.
unidentified		Yeah, great improvement.
		91%.
		It's not, but that's not good enough.
		Like, even if that was good, that's not nearly good enough for the trajectory we're on right now.
		So, I don't know.
		Let me just add this on to the voting demographic issue.
		You all know the story of Governor George Wallace, the evil, racist, you know, segregationist governor, George Wallace.
		He was a Democrat, obviously, in the South.
		And after, in like the 1980s, after he like repented, and became like a non-racist sort of Jimmy Carter type figure in the South, African-Americans overwhelmingly supported him because of party loyalty.
		So if Blacks are able to, so if African-Americans are willing to support literally George Wallace, the most archetypal segregationist of all, like arguably in modern U.S. history, because of party identification, how does that give you any hope that they'll eventually come into the GOP?
		Right.
		So I have a question here.
		I'm not super familiar with you, Nicholas.
		Destroy?
		Liberal annihilation?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, go ahead.
unidentified		What is the solution if it's not to change people's minds?
		Is it, like, you can't just ban stuff because there's not enough votes going that direction to get that sort of traction.
		There's not enough to get this sort of, like, stop immigration bans and those sorts of things that I've heard brought up.
		And I'm not super familiar right now within the Senate and Congress.
		So what's the way to change the demographic?
		Get it to shift back in the correct direction?
		Oh, God.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We need to whip the whites into shape, man.
unidentified		No.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Sam Francis wrote about this in the 1990s.
		He called the middle American radicals.
		And middle American radicals, he wrote a long book about it called Revolt, Revolution from the Middle.
		And he talked about how there's a major demographic that crosses party lines of middle Americans.
		Middle Americans that are maybe more culturally conservative, and maybe it's a little bit more, there's a lot of variability with economic and other issues.
unidentified		We'll see a lot of its contingent on how events transpire in the next few years.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, a lot of it's very variable and contingent, unpredictable.
		Trump proved that.
		Maybe then we'll have a chance at staving off the winter for our civilization.
		But we'll see a lot of its contingent on how events transpire in the next few years.
		I mean, a lot of it's very variable and contingent, unpredictable.
		Trump proved that.
		Some people might have said the country is going one way before 2015, and then Trump announced, became president, and here we are.
		So, things can change, but that's sort of the idea.
		Because these people, it's different.
		They're inflexible.
		These are people, there's no elasticity.
		Even conservative blacks vote Democrat.
		You look at them, and there's almost no correlation between what they believe and how they vote.
		And how do you win people like that?
		It's like Kyle said, the Chad Autist.
		It's like he said, the party identification is unbreakable.
		And you might have Depending on the group, a little bit more leeway than others, but it's not going to happen because there's so many people coming in.
		The demographics are changing so rapidly that we don't have time for Lance to go to Tijuana with his constitution and tell everybody why the First Amendment is such a winner.
		Because these people, they don't have... It's like going to Iraq and trying to create a democracy.
		They don't have that tradition.
		Their culture did not create that country.
		Their culture cannot perpetuate this country.
		That's the bottom line.
unidentified		So you're so I just I was just curious so you both are wanting to change people's minds you just want to go about different demographics it sounds like.
		Well no not necessarily um I think a better way of saying it well I mean expanding on it rather is or not explaining what Nick said I meant I'm I'm tired what I meant to say is another way to look at this Is why would we even want African Americans to vote for us to begin with?
		You can see within the African American community, they have these major divisions clearly between their women and their men.
		You see this in the divorce rates and domestic violence disputes and all that.
		And really the only demographic we would be able to target to vote for the GOP is African American working class men.
		And we already have all these divisions in their community.
		Why would we want to add, how would it be helpful to them to add another division of party identification?
		Between their men and their women.
		I don't think that would help them in any given, like, perceivable way, besides for helping us win more elections, which, I mean, at the end of the day, who cares?
		I mean, it's important to win elections, obviously, but if it's going to cause, like, counterproductive achievements that we don't want to achieve, that we, like, would otherwise want, like, we want an orderly society, and having more division is less order.
		So why would we want that?
		So you're saying that we should just, like, not get votes so black people don't argue?
		Is that what you're saying?
		No, what I'm saying is we should not encourage division between, in the middle of a community that's already heavily divided on gender, when the only demographic that would vote for the GOP would be the men, not the women.
		And if we want an orderly society that is run with laws, and that is run cohesively with all the populations, why would we want more division like that than there already is?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		What's going on with Padre Tyrone?
unidentified		We want to get him in the conversation.
		Hold on, hold on, hold on.
		One more thing on the demographic thing.
		Hungary hasn't figured out.
		It's not that hard to boost your birth rates.
		You don't have to do it by force.
		We just make it easier for white people to have kids because it's super hard for a working class white family to have a big family right now.
		It's just not economically viable.
		We could make it that way, but I mean, that's yet to be seen, but that's another way we could do it.
		Sort of go the hungry route.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, true.
unidentified		We just need one more Joker movie.
		That's all we need.
		And then we've got this thing wrapped up.
		Yeah, or we could just go that route.
		Either way.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm going to head out.
		It's 5 a.m.
		Time to play Animal Crossing.
		Time to play Animal Crossing.
unidentified		New day.
unidentified		Nah, you got eight minutes till 5 a.m.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I gotta get prepared.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I gotta make sure all my rocks are hit and I gotta, you know... I'm in Florida.
unidentified		It's almost 6.
		If y'all are trying to play Warzone, hit me up.
		Nick, before you leave, I'm gonna DM on Twitter.
		I'm blocked.
		I'm gonna talk to you about it.
		If you respond, I'd love that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Did I block you, DixieZoomer?
unidentified		Yeah, you did.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Were you talking shit?
unidentified		Uh, I don't know.
unidentified		Oh, you don't know?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds convenient.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I probably liked or retweeted something.
unidentified		Yeah, that's probably what it was.
		I probably retweeted something.
		Uh huh.
		Unoptical.
		We'll see.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Unoptical.
		More like anti – you were countersignaling me.
		No countersignaling me.
unidentified		Nick, do you have your, like, Twitter notifications on?
		No.
		Bro, nobody has their Twitter for notification when he runs.
		I was just wondering.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Noob department?
unidentified		Oh, this guy does.
		He gets one like and he's like, he's in the grocery store like, I got a like on my tweet!
		Look!
		Who, Lance?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Lance is like that.
unidentified		I don't even, I don't ever even use Twitter.
		No, no, I'm on, no, no.
		I don't have any, anything turned on.
		It's just annoying.
		Lance, 1v1 me in college reading and if I win, you're racist.
		Yep.
		What?
		It's like the pod race.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		It's like the pod race.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to win you.
unidentified		We're going to bet with Wado.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to make a bet with Benny Johnson for you and the hyperdrive.
unidentified		Before Nick goes, I got to give a shout out to my fellow Inverto Fertilization nibbas.
		All right.
		We're kind of brothers in this.
		Brothers.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		We're like brothers, but closer.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Right.
		If I got unmuted earlier, I was going to bring up some stats that say that gay parents, their kids end up having more problems than with married parents.
		It's a little too late for that now, but... Also, someone in the chat said the kid with the Nick the Knife thing is cringe.
		Dude, fuck you.
		I find cool, dude.
		Like, really.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jace!
unidentified		Piece of shit.
		That's what you are.
		Yeah, fuck you.
		This guy rules.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Nick the Knife, knife guy.
unidentified		Yeah, Nick the Knife.
		Hell yeah.
		Okay, well, I'll probably be back tomorrow or later this week.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		My head hurts so bad and I'm tired.
		It's been a long night.
		I've been streaming since nine o'clock.
		That's eight hours, okay?
unidentified		Hey, one more question, Nick, before you go.
unidentified		One more question.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Do you think that you could beat Ben Shapiro in a debate, like, honestly?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, 100% and easily, and he knows that.
unidentified		I would so watch that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Ben Shapiro is not smart.
		He just talks fast.
		You take, like, two seconds to look at his arguments.
		He's, like, midwit.
		Middle intellect.
		And, uh, but who does he debate?
		Has he debated a serious person?
		He debates college kids.
unidentified		Well, he debated, like, Cenk Uygur or whatever it is.
unidentified		Cenk Uygur?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Cenk Uygur's a fucking idiot.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he won't debate anybody serious.
unidentified		But he's, like, the head of the progressive movement, though.
unidentified		Like, at Young Turks.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's a dipshit.
		Try putting him up against somebody that actually has a brain.
		But the guy, me and Ben Shapiro go way back.
		Ask me about that sometime.
		Me and him go back to 2017, actually.
		I have a history with little Benjamin.
		He's been trying to stop me for a long time.
		He's gonna what?
unidentified		He's gonna debate Kyle Kalinske.
unidentified		Oh yeah?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well that might be a challenge.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Kyle Kalinske's pretty bright.
unidentified		Did you ever watch the Kyle Kalinske-Charlie Kirk debate?
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		No, I tried to get in.
		I was at Politicon and they blocked me from entering.
		Didn't you see that?
		They had like 12 security guards stop me from coming in.
		They intercepted me.
		I was walking to the debate room and 12 guys surrounded me and were like, you can't come into this debate.
unidentified		So, I tried.
		It's on YouTube though.
		Yeah, I didn't see it.
		I just want to know if you've seen it, who you think won.
		I don't know, I thought it was pretty close.
		Yeah.
		We got a lot of people coming in now.
		Everybody's about to leave.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, we could talk more later, but I'm tired.
		I gotta piss.
unidentified		I gotta get on.
		We'll do this again next time.
		We will.
		We do this a lot, so.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be back.
unidentified		We'll be here.
		Wipers will be back.
		I'm gonna send you a DM on Twitter later about some other stuff.
		Excellent.
		If you could respond with your feedback, I'd love that.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Got you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be looking out for it.
unidentified		Yep, all right.
		I'm going to bed.
		My brother was texting me being mad that I was keeping him up.
		So, have a good night everybody.
		It was great talking to you.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
		Good night, Lee Stockton.
		Good night, everybody.
		Good night.
		Good night, my test tube buddy, Lance.
		And everybody else.
unidentified		Good night, Violet.
		So, I'm going to unmute everybody and everybody say thank you to Nick for showing up.
		For both Nick and Lance.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Say thank you, Nick.
unidentified		Thank you, Nick.
		Good night, everybody.
		I'll see you tomorrow or maybe later, okay?
		Thanks, Nick.
		Alright, thanks a lot for having me.
		What is it based on?
		Good night, everybody.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		I'll see you tomorrow or maybe later, okay?
unidentified		Thanks, Nick.
unidentified		All right.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks a lot for having me.
nick fuentes ▲ ● ▼		Bye-bye.
unidentified		Have a good one.
		Thanks, Nick Videos, for showing up.
		Thanks, Vicente.
		Thanks, Lance.
		Yeah, just to be 1,000% clear, not a Groyper.
		We just wanted to talk.
		Yeah, we're not Groypers.
		We're not Groypers.
		We just wanted to talk and have a conversation.
		Yeah.
		I wanted to ask Nick a question, but I couldn't because you guys had muted.
		I'm sad now.
		Oh, well, I tried to keep on muting you, but you kept muting yourself.
		Was I?
		I don't know.
		I don't know how to work this stupid app.
		When you're on the phone and you go out of the camera, it mutes you automatically.
		Okay.
		Bean, what was your question?
		I was gonna ask him why he keeps hanging out with gay Australian men.
		I think he asked that earlier.
		They asked that earlier, but we were trying to keep it civil.
		Right, okay.
		Yeah, we're trying to be friends.
		Not really friends with everybody, but we're trying to... When we do our lives, we try to just be like, chill with everybody.
		Because we had almost, what, two of the people from the Liberal Hype House in here as well, in the beginning.
		Yeah.
		And then someone was live streaming it with over, like, 4,000 people watching, so... Oh, yeah.
		We just learned that, like, because we have the group chat, and somebody posted it on the group chat.
		But thanks to everybody showing up.
		I think somebody wants to talk to you, Nick.
		Hold on.
		Sebastian?
		Hello?
		Can you hear me?
		Yeah.
		Nick, you are so epic.
		Bye.
		Thanks, bro.
		I appreciate you.
		Oh, babe.
		I think Kayla wanted to say something.
		Kayla?
		No, I don't really have anything to say.
		OK.
		Caleb?
		Yeah, um, big fan.
		I've been here for six hours, dude.
		Wait, has this thing been going on that long?
		Yeah, been here for like more than six hours.
		Alright.
		Let's go with trying to.
		Thank you.
		Thanks for coming.
		No way am I sleeping today.
		Thanks for coming.
		Good time?
		Good time.
		I mean, most of it was just miserable.
		But I mean, you know, it was a nice surprise.
		Yeah, but... Maybe, you know, maybe next time.
		Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
		But isn't it for some reason, Doug?

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