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year but i never got into it because i can't like dance or anything so i'm not going to do the renegade i'm not yeah so yeah so i mean maybe consensual dolphin sex but they are known to be rapists how would they okay how would a dolphin consent yes how do you how do you consider dolphins consenting i don't know i mean i guess in theory like all you know everything that goes on in the animal not a whole lot of consensual stuff you know what i mean | ||
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So, So he doesn't really take the dolphin's consent, you just do it. | |
It's the law of the jungle, so to speak, so I think it's kind of anything goes. | ||
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So could a dolphin rape a human, but a human not rape a dolphin? | |
Uh, yeah, yeah, I think that's about right, yeah. | ||
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I can see that. | |
They made a high pass on TikTok and said we got bodied by them and they had some steep views. | ||
Yeah, after our debate last night, they made the dolphin high pass. | ||
They literally asked on a moral basis, not a moral question. | ||
Lily, your sign is backwards. | ||
You're saying something about us. | ||
Ask him in here. | ||
Why don't you like Nick? | ||
Yeah, alright, based. | ||
Alright, Nick is a good man. | ||
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Alright, epic. | |
Okay, so Nick, I do want to ask you about a couple of things. | ||
Because I feel like I know that you're probably more right than I am. | ||
Not probably, I've seen you talk before, so I know you're more further right than I am. | ||
Have you ever taken the political compass test? | ||
I have, yeah, yeah, I have. | ||
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Where did you land with that? | |
I actually landed in the top left quadrant. | ||
Moderately, like slightly to the left and moderately towards authoritarian. | ||
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Interesting, yeah, so I, because I fall, I fall very, very barely authoritarian right in my, like, beliefs myself. | |
But, like, I know that, like, you push a lot of, like, America First policies, you know? | ||
And so, like, I know I'm a big American First supporter myself. | ||
So, like, personally speaking, what do you consider too far when it comes to American First policies? | ||
Um... | ||
That's a good question. | ||
You know, it's kind of tough to say because things have gone so far in the wrong direction that, you know, probably radical reform is required. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Like, it's hard for me to think of, like, excess on the right. | ||
It's hard for me to even think of excess on the right when we have so much excess to the left in terms of... | ||
Like, you know, child drag queens and story hour and, you know, free trade and, you know, two Middle East wars at the same time and this bailout that just happened for Wall Street because of the coronavirus. | ||
Like, it's hard to even imagine how far it'd be too far. | ||
I mean, I'm obviously not like, you know, in favor of like murder, you know, like the state, like mass violence by the state. | ||
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I think we could all agree that would be too far. | |
So, I know you were talking about the bailout. | ||
radical change in thinking is required. | ||
So I think America first has sort of its own moderating principle, which is it's whatever's in the interest of the people. | ||
And, you know, obviously we don't need to like nuke any other country, but I think that that is a pretty good standard to go by. | ||
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So I know you were talking about the bailout. | |
Did you, you saw, I'm assuming you disagree with the bailout that we just did for coronavirus? | ||
Well, it's not that I disagree with that. | ||
I I believe that it was required, like a big stimulus was required, but I think, excuse me, that the proportionality of it was wrong in the sense that they probably should have given a lot more money for small business loans and for cash payments and less money to bail out Like airlines and the hotels. | ||
I think that you need stimulus for both parts of the economy. | ||
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You need to stimulate like Wall Street and the big industries and you also do stimulate the people but I thought that the priorities were totally lopsided Yeah, so like I and this is like a theory of my own because I personally think that we should have had less less cash in the hands of Americans and more money to be spent towards instead of just having them still paying their bills How about the American government say, hell, I mean, just let's go ahead and put a halt on all your bills. | |
We'll pay these companies off for their losses. | ||
Put a halt on your bills. | ||
And so instead of just handing out cash and maybe running into a situation where I know I've heard of Americans just spending it on whatever, TVs and crap, I mean, how about we save ourselves that trouble and just pay the companies themselves? | ||
And, you know, because if they don't have the bills to pay, then they don't have to worry about the money situation. | ||
Well, the problem for a lot of people is that they're in a no or a low income situation where it's not so much that the bills are too much, but there's just no money coming in, right? | ||
I mean, the money going out is a problem, but there's no money coming in. | ||
So I think that in addition to helping people, relieving their burden with bills, I think the stimulus also stimulates demand in the economy in the sense that, you know, people are probably going to take their checks and spend it on frivolous things. | ||
But that is a good thing because when there's more spending, then that means that the economy is going. | ||
And I'm not typically like a big Keynesian, like a big demand side guy. | ||
But, you know, in this context, obviously demand is totally artificially suppressed by these restrictions on people shopping and eating out and, you know, the shelter in place. | ||
So I think that it's probably a much better approach just give people the cash. | ||
That they have bills to pay, they can pay them. | ||
If not, then at least they're spending money. | ||
And that is just another form of stimulus. | ||
That's just like another monetary injection, which to me is a lot better than doing an injection the other way, which is having the Federal Reserve buy stuff or, you know, giving it to Wall Street, because Wall Street is just squandering it. | ||
They're squandering it on stock buybacks and, you know, other ridiculous things. | ||
So I think it's just better to give people the cash. | ||
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Okay, yeah, that's an interesting concept because I know I've talked about, you know, the coronavirus stimulus package and the reaction of the American government to the coronavirus and all that. | |
Actually, like, very frequently, you know, even going back to like Trump's response in general to, you know, travel bans, stuff like that, associated with it. | ||
So I definitely would ask you about that. | ||
Oh, crap. | ||
Spotlighted me over there. | ||
Yeah, someone said that we look similar. | ||
Do you think that we look similar, Nick? | ||
The green screen. | ||
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It's the green screen! | |
I think there's a little bit of similarity. | ||
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A little bit of similarity. | |
I feel like if I had the button-up shirt, I think we could, like, maybe pass off as brothers. | ||
Your hair has a little bit more volume. | ||
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Yeah, okay, yeah. | |
A little bit more lush. | ||
Everybody calm down there. | ||
It looks the same. | ||
So I didn't want to address that, but no, so what is your proposed solution, I guess, for our immigration reform? | ||
Because I mean, obviously it needs to happen. | ||
We all know that. | ||
That was a pivotal point in the 2016 election. | ||
So what do we say we do about undocumented in the country and border security? | ||
Well, I think that that is one part of the equation, which a lot of Republicans are in agreement with. | ||
In other words, the border security and illegal immigrant question, which I think very simply, we should build a physical barrier. | ||
We should implement mandatory e-verify, which is a huge part of it. | ||
And we should strive to deport or get rid of most or all illegal immigrants in the country. | ||
And the reason why I need a border wall, obviously, is Prevent new entries. | ||
And it's just ridiculous, obviously. | ||
The past year has gotten better, but last year was a nightmare at the border. | ||
But build a physical structure to keep people from coming in. | ||
But mandatory, you verify what that does is it makes it so that illegal immigrants can't get jobs. | ||
And if they can't get jobs, a lot of them will go back. | ||
You know, the primary, they're economic migrants is what they are. | ||
They're not refugees or asylum seekers. | ||
They're coming here for money and for jobs and largely for remittances. | ||
You know, some people will come here. | ||
Make money, send it back to their family back home. | ||
A lot of people come here for work and then leave and go back to Mexico for a little while. | ||
They call that being an ampersand. | ||
But if the jobs dry up and the money dries up, a lot of them will just leave themselves. | ||
So in a lot of cases, you don't even need to deport many because they will just flee if you cut off the benefits and if you cut off the jobs. | ||
But that's strictly border security. | ||
I think that the bigger question, and the more controversial one, is legal immigration. | ||
Everybody seems to do this refrain, which is, no illegal immigration, but legal immigration is fine. | ||
They have to come here legally. | ||
We're going to have a big, beautiful door, but they've got to come legally. | ||
I don't think they should come legally either. | ||
I think they should not come at all. | ||
We've had too many for too long and so I think we should have a complete immigration moratorium indefinitely. | ||
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No immigration indefinitely until... Is this for population control or is it for something else? | |
Well, it's because immigration is a tremendously destabilizing force. | ||
Immigration is something that historically in the country comes in waves, and it subsides, obviously. | ||
You get a big wave of immigration, for example, of Germans coming in in the early 19th century, and then it stopped for a long time. | ||
You had a big wave in the early 20th century, and then it stopped. | ||
It was nearly zero during the Great Depression. | ||
We've had since 1965 is a wave that never stops. | ||
It just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. | ||
And it starts in 1965. | ||
And every year we have more immigrants than the last. | ||
And now we're taking in more than a million immigrants a year. | ||
And so the problem with that is it rips apart the social fabric. | ||
It changes the culture. | ||
It is hurting American workers because you increase the labor pool and it decreases wages. | ||
And so it has so many bad effects when you scale it this big that we have to stop it and kind of survey the damage and see how we're going to put the country back together. | ||
Cause I think it's going to cause a lot of big problems in the future if it's not causing problems already. | ||
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So, and I'm just like basing this off of what you said in that statement is like with the, um, with like the negative that you, you know, had said with it is the culture, the culture aspect. | |
Do you not, want cultures to mix in America? | ||
No. | ||
I think that a country has to be cohesive and orderly and stable. | ||
And what is critical to that is some degree of consensus on culture, which is to say, you know, what God you worship, your politics, your language, even little things like mannerisms, customs, things you might not even think about, like sense of humor or your perception on things you might not even think about, like sense of humor or your perception on the role of women Like culture is a very complex and sophisticated thing. | ||
And when you mix them together, it tends to create conflict. | ||
You know, there is no such thing as a mixing of cultures. | ||
There's really only a clash of cultures, which is to say that, you know, you bring people in who have wildly different views on very important and consequential things like government or religion or whatever. | ||
And people tend to want to fight over those kinds of things. | ||
And when they fight, one side wins, one side loses. | ||
and the people that win decide what the country looks like. | ||
And so you bring in, in short, you bring in lots of people of a different culture, and pretty soon America's culture will change. | ||
And our culture will diminish, and their culture will expand, and pretty soon we'll be looking at a country that's unrecognizable. | ||
Generally, the culture that's coming here is not only different, which is, I think, a good enough reason alone to keep it out, but it's worse. | ||
It's often worse, too. | ||
It'd be one thing, you know, if Europeans went into Africa, maybe they'd make the culture better, actually. | ||
But when Africans come here, they're making the culture worse. | ||
So it's not, I mean, it would be one thing to say, And I think this is sufficient. | ||
We want to protect our way of life no matter what, but not only are they coming here and changing it and altering it and making it foreign and different, but they're doing it so such that it's worse. | ||
And so that's really the problem. | ||
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So can I, can I, can I make one thing clear here real quick? | |
Uh, this isn't based upon race, correct? | ||
The whole ad, like the Africa statement, is it, it's not based on race. | ||
It's based upon like the third worldness of these, of these countries and them getting used to acclimated to, You know, as having a more civilized nation in America. | ||
You're saying that, correct? | ||
Not race. | ||
Well, race definitely plays a factor. | ||
And a lot of people don't like to say that and it makes them uncomfortable. | ||
And I wouldn't describe myself as a racist or anything like that or a hater of other people or a supremacist. | ||
But we just have to be adults and we have to be mature and say that whether we like it or not, tribalism is real among people. | ||
Whether we like it or not, People do have racial identity. | ||
You know, the people that are coming here from Mexico, what is their advocacy group called in the United States? | ||
It's called La Raza. | ||
Have you ever heard of La Raza? | ||
La Raza means the race. | ||
And when they're talking about the Mexican conquest of Arizona and California, and they're talking about Aslan, is what they call it, the Mexican reconquest of the Southwest, which a lot of political activists say that America stole from them in the 19th century. | ||
This is a racial lens that they're interpreting this demographic change. | ||
And this is true, I think, for all racial groups. | ||
I think that there are meaningful differences between groups. | ||
I think they manifest in culture. | ||
And I don't think America would be the same if America was racially different. | ||
I think you change the racial composition of the country and you change what the country looks like. | ||
You change the culture of the country. | ||
I don't think that you can make America a non-white country and it will continue to look like a white country. | ||
And not just in skin color, but in all the cultural expressions of a culture. | ||
You know, that's fine. | ||
Africa can be Africa, and Latin America can be Latin America, but I think Europe must be Europe, and America must be America. | ||
I think everybody is entitled to their homeland. | ||
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So, would you take... Yeah, go ahead, Cam. | |
Go ahead, Cam. | ||
I'm sorry, I've been talking a lot. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
Would you say that you would want to take action to try to, like, if you could call the shots, would you try to take action to, like, prevent the difference of culture that currently exists in the country, or just stop it from coming in? | ||
Well, first we have to stop it from coming in, and then we have to figure out what to do. | ||
And I know that sounds maybe like a cop-out, but the thing is, is that there's really no easy answers. | ||
We're going to live in a multiracial country, and multiracial means that there is no dominant or majority race. | ||
You know, white people cease to be a majority, and they will cease to be the dominant race in the country, culturally, politically, otherwise. | ||
And so we will become, meaningfully, a multiracial country. | ||
And that's going to happen no matter what, because of the birth rates and the fertility rates and everything. | ||
So we're going to have to figure out, how are we going to get along as a multiracial country? | ||
How do we govern a multiracial country? | ||
And I think a lot of that is a question mark. | ||
I think a lot of that remains to be written and remains to be seen how that's going to go. | ||
But before we can figure out, okay, it's multiracial, it's maybe 50% white and You know, 30% Hispanic and 15% Black, whatever the composition is going to be, we have to figure out how are we going to make it such that, because my big concern is all this anti-white stuff. | ||
When we transition to a multiracial country, and Democrats run the show, and it's this electorate, you know, the Democrats' constituency is Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians, largely, virtually no white people, and an ever-shrinking minority. | ||
When this new coalition is governing the country, how are they going to treat the white people? | ||
Are they going to be nice to us? | ||
Are they going to, like, Because the way it's going now, I'm not really optimistic about our place. | ||
Anti-white media stuff, anti-white commercials, anti-white history books. | ||
And when we're going to be a minority, how is that going to translate into policy? | ||
So, if we're going to live in a multiracial, fine. | ||
But let's make it truly equal. | ||
If that's how it's going to be, then everybody should be equal and everybody should be respected and everybody should have their own culture, their own thing, whatever. | ||
But that's sort of my concern. | ||
But that, I think, is something we'll have to determine once we shut down all the people pouring in. | ||
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So actually, we have Lance in here from the Republican High Pass. | |
I just wanted to hear what's going on right now. | ||
I don't want to ask a question right now. | ||
Okay, all right, let's let's you know, that's in trouble. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, I Nick I I guess I didn't I guess do a proper introduction for everybody. | ||
So yeah, everybody who's unmuted right now is a either a member of the conservative hype house or a member of the liberal hype house and well, we usually do these zooms like pretty nightly we've been doing it for a while now and You know just to come on here and debate answer questions different things like that. | ||
So I think Is with good opportunity for us to be able to come on here and talk and ask questions and everything. | ||
But to your point though with the thing, now I'm trying not to change the subject here, with the culture. | ||
So when you're talking about making things equal, are you referring to groups say like Black Lives Matter? | ||
Would you say that you wouldn't want groups like that arising or trying to push for rights? | ||
Are you not okay with that? | ||
Well, I think you have to look at it, how is it materialized in our country today? | ||
You have these advocacy groups. | ||
You have policies that are designed to benefit certain groups at the expense of others. | ||
Affirmative Action, you have the NAACP, you have CARE, the American Islamic Relations thing. | ||
You've got all these advocacy organizations and policies and programs directed at elevating non-whites. | ||
And to me, it's like you can either have that be what multiracialism looks like, And in that case, then should white people not get an advocacy group? | ||
You know, if that's the way it's going to be, and everybody's fighting for their own and their own tribe, and it's just kind of like this sort of ethnic democracy, they have something like this in Ethiopia. | ||
If that's the way it's going to be, then white people should be able to play too. | ||
Because the way it is now, what Republicans say is that, well, identity politics is wrong, but it only seems to be wrong when white people do it. | ||
Because we can have black leadership summits, we can have Hispanic leadership summits, and You know, all that's fine. | ||
We can target the black vote and talk about black unemployment, but God forbid you talk about how white people are doing. | ||
You know, that's, that's, you know, white identitarians are just as bad as the left. | ||
So I think you have to have it either or you have to have all or nothing. | ||
Either everybody gets to play that game and everybody gets to have their advocacy group and fight for their interest and fight for their pie or nobody does. | ||
And if nobody does, and that means no affirmative action. | ||
That means that all the laws are applied equally. | ||
That means that there's, we're going to shut down BLM. | ||
We're going to shut down the NAACP and everything else. | ||
And to me, it seems like that latter outcome is a lot less likely because I don't think these other groups will give up. | ||
Their aspirations, their ethnic politics. | ||
So I believe that out of defense, white people have to kind of, you know, rise up and put something up equal or similar. | ||
Because, you know, you look at California or Texas and it's like white people are already becoming a minority. | ||
And what is that going to look like when they're talking about reparations? | ||
Reparations is going to look like a Democrat government with, you know, this coalition of non-white people is going to put it into power, and reparations is going to look like just taking white people's stuff. | ||
Like, I don't want that to happen. | ||
If you think that sounds crazy, that's what's happening in South Africa right now. | ||
In South Africa, after apartheid ends, Nelson Mandela gets into power, and it's okay. | ||
It's hunky-dory for a little while. | ||
But slowly, under the surface, tensions and resentment is rising. | ||
The economy's going down. | ||
This new government is failing. | ||
And what do you see now? | ||
Now you see the government is legalizing Land re-appropriations where people are going to go in and take the white farmers land and take their stuff and they're killing the white South African farmers. | ||
This already happened in Rhodesia, which is now called Zimbabwe. | ||
Same thing happened there. | ||
And so maybe that sounds like crazy or far off in the future, but the principle is the same. | ||
We must protect the rights of everybody in the country if that's where we're headed. | ||
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So, um, and I, I just want to make one more question so I can give other people some time. | |
Cause I know, I think other people were, I wouldn't ask questions as well. | ||
I know we have a lot of hand raises and stuff like that. | ||
So, uh, I don't want to take too much of your time either. | ||
I don't know how long you have. | ||
Uh, but, uh, pretty much, I guess from my perspective on this is, um, and, and I don't have, I don't have a liberal mindset when it comes to this, actually, you know, I'm probably one of the guys that's like, you know, what, if we're going to have gay pride, then we should have straight pride. | ||
I think that we should have advocacy for both ways. | ||
However, you have to admit though that The reason why we don't have, say, I guess a white, you know, like a white political, you know, rally or whatever. | ||
Like, these are white politicians that we have in office. | ||
Look at us, you know, we've got the power kind of thing, you know, or whatever. | ||
Like, the reason why you don't have stuff like that is because we already have the majority of the politicians right now. | ||
We don't need the advocacy right now because it would be a different case if we were, say, George Bush's era and we're looking at Barack Obama becoming the first black president ever. | ||
It would be a different case if, you know, if it was the first white president ever. | ||
But it's not. | ||
We're looking at now us being the majority. | ||
So say yes, if times change 50 or 100 years down the road and we're the minority, okay. | ||
But we're not. | ||
We're going to be. | ||
But that's based on a hypothetical. | ||
That's just as big of a hypothetical as someone saying that communism is going to rise up in America. | ||
I just debated someone on that last night, and that's the truth. | ||
You can't base your ideals off of these hypotheticals like this, oh my gosh, we're under attack, even though we're the majority. | ||
It's not a hypothetical, though. | ||
And the reason why it's different is because this comes down to math. | ||
You know, talking about communism rising is a social trend, you know, and it's totally different. | ||
What we're talking about is fertility rates. | ||
We're talking about the rate at which the non-white population inside the United States is growing versus the rate at which the white population is growing. | ||
And, you know, these numbers can change, obviously, but they don't tend to fluctuate wildly in short amounts of time. | ||
We're on a trajectory. | ||
We've been on a trajectory for a long time. | ||
In 1965, the white population, it was 90% of the population was white. | ||
90% white and roughly 10% black was in 1965. | ||
Today, the white population is, I think, just over 60%. | ||
And so you can see very clearly the trajectory we're on. | ||
What's that? | ||
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72. | |
That's not true. | ||
That's if you count a lot of Hispanics or Arabs that identify as white, but you can check. | ||
It's around 60%. | ||
And the trajectory is going the same way and will go the same way into the future because The people that we're bringing in, immigrants, they have a much higher fertility rate. | ||
The fertility rate for Hispanics is going down, but it was around 2.5, I think the last numbers I saw, compared to white people where it's less than 2. | ||
So the fertility rates are as such, and immigration isn't stopping anytime soon, that this is going to happen. | ||
This is a reality that white people are going to have to live with. | ||
We're going to be a minority in 10 to 15 years. | ||
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So what steps would you take to prevent that from happening? | |
What do you do? | ||
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We start shipping out people? | |
No. | ||
I don't know why, but here's the... That's just a genuine question. | ||
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I'm just wondering what you would do against that. | |
I understand the question, but no, no. | ||
It's not that we're going to deport people, like I said. | ||
And I said this early on. | ||
I said the demographic change that we're seeing is baked into the cake. | ||
Really, immigration will accelerate it. | ||
But regardless of immigration, these demographic changes are baked into the cake because of the fertility rates. | ||
And I said, we're going to live in a multiracial country. | ||
And I said, we're going to have to just figure out how are we going to make that work? | ||
How are we going to get along? | ||
And if and when that happens, we have to ensure that everybody has rights. | ||
We have to ensure that if we're going to talk about equality, then everybody's going to be equal. | ||
You know? | ||
So that's what I said from the beginning. | ||
I didn't say, you know, we're going to deport non-white people or anything like that. | ||
I said, we should probably shut down Immigrations, we could get a handle on stabilizing the country, the social fabric, the economy from just being ravaged by immigration for 70 years. | ||
But, you know, when that turn ultimately happens, as this demographic transition happens, we have to figure out how we're all going to get along, because I'm really not optimistic about where the country is headed as a result of this. | ||
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Wouldn't you want America, though, to be like a safe haven for people to escape to? | |
That's what it was for in the first place. | ||
Uh, that's actually not true. | ||
I mean, I know there's a lot of... I understand the founding mythos about, you know, religious separatists fleeing and, you know, like the pilgrims and all of that, but... | ||
You know, the founders never intended America to just be, like, the world's refuge for poor and peasants. | ||
Like, the people that are coming here are not refugees. | ||
They're just poor. | ||
You know, the people that have come across the border or that are buying their way in or making anchor babies, they're not fleeing, like, persecution. | ||
They're not fleeing genocide. | ||
They're economic migrants. | ||
It's the same thing happening in Europe. | ||
America was not built up so that people could, like, loot it, so that America could, like, or rather so that immigrants could, you know, come through and pillage all of our resources. | ||
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So you're talking about mainly African Americans that would be taken over, right? | |
No. | ||
I wasn't listening too closely. | ||
Who's mainly going to be like, just anybody who's not white would be the majority, right? | ||
Right. | ||
So blacks are roughly 14% of the population and their share of the population will stay the same really throughout the rest of the century. | ||
But the groups that are going to expand the most are Hispanics and Asians because that's where the immigration is coming from is Latin America and increasingly Asia. | ||
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So those are going to be the bigger groups. | |
Um, so, okay. | ||
So with, you know, this, okay. | ||
With this idea that, you know, yes, uh, people are filling here for economic reasons. | ||
Why is that not okay? | ||
Why can't, why can we not, why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to make money? | ||
Why can we not offer them an opportunity to be able to be in a better economic state than they were in their previous country? | ||
I mean, say I want to do that in America, say I'm failing in America but I have enough money to be able to move to Great Britain and maybe have a better opportunity there, you know? | ||
I mean, why can't? | ||
Why can't we? | ||
Well, because this is really an economist's way of looking at the world. | ||
You know, if we look at America as like an open market or a shopping mall or like a business, then you might say, well, you know, you might look at labor like any other economic good. | ||
Well, people are going to come here. | ||
They're going to get jobs. | ||
And maybe I'll go somewhere else and get a job. | ||
But America is not a factory. | ||
America is not a shopping mall. | ||
It's not an open market. | ||
I'm not saying you are. | ||
I'm just saying that perception I think it's been created. | ||
America is our home. | ||
America is our homeland. | ||
And the idea that people would be coming in here and the only thing that America has to offer for the world is to give poor people from other countries jobs, I think diminishes what America means to all of us. | ||
To me, my neighborhood, because, you know, we talk about the country, but really it's about your neighborhood. | ||
My neighborhood is my home. | ||
And people coming into my neighborhood and getting jobs, you know, good for them, right? | ||
Fantastic. | ||
It's really good for them, because they're going to come from some slum in Nicaragua, and they're going to come to my neighborhood, and suddenly they're not in a slum. | ||
They're in a nice suburb, and it's 95% white, and there's no violence and everything, and they're going to get a nice job. | ||
But here's the thing. | ||
If the entire character of the neighborhood changes, if the demographics of the neighborhood change, it's not going to be my neighborhood anymore. | ||
You're going to see different food, different restaurants, different customs, different holidays, different everything. | ||
My kids are going to go to school and be a minority. | ||
They won't be playing baseball. | ||
They'll be playing cricket. | ||
They won't be eating hot dogs. | ||
They'll be eating kebab. | ||
It won't be my neighborhood anymore. | ||
The texture of life, which is what we love about America, will cease to exist. | ||
And that's without even... I mean, I could address the economic argument why it's terrible for our economy to bring these people in, but there's a great book called We Wanted Workers by George Borjas, and it comes from an expression from a German from 60 years ago, where he said, we wanted workers, we got people. | ||
Referring to immigration. | ||
We wanted workers, we got people. | ||
We want people to come into work, we found out that those people have lives outside of work. | ||
They're living here, they're eating here, they're doing all kinds of different things. | ||
So it's not just workers, it's not as benign as economic activity. | ||
They're fundamentally changing the character of the country. | ||
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So, I guess, you know, I know I'd say I gathered everything you're saying. | |
So I want to preface by saying I did gather everything that you're saying with the culture change and all that. | ||
I guess what I'm not picking up on is as to Why can we not share? | ||
Why can we not share? | ||
Because even though my culture is changing, if my culture is changing, why can I not, I guess, change myself to be able to acclimate to the change? | ||
There's definitely cultural divides, but why is it a bad thing to have other cultures mixing in with ours? | ||
Or, as you call it, the culture clash. | ||
Right, like, my family comes from Italy, and I'm a white immigrant, and I don't know why someone's skin color, or someone's race, or where they come from matters whether or not they're gonna come and, like, give to the economy, get a job, you know, put into the economy, because when they get jobs, they're putting their money in, and they're spending their money, and they're putting that money into the economy, and it's circulating. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The race, but like the race is like, you know, connected to the culture. | ||
Cause I remember we were talking about that earlier, but it is the culture you're talking about. | ||
What if they're an African American? | ||
What if their race is African, you know, African of descent, but they're born in America, they have the same culture as any other white American. | ||
Well, I have, I have a question that may throw everyone off a little bit, but what exactly is American culture? | ||
Which American culture are we talking about? | ||
American culture varies from region of the country to region of the country. | ||
I mean, I don't know if anyone here has had a chance to read the nine nations of North America, but like there are many distinct American cultures that exist that have evolved over the past 400 years. | ||
And to say that even amongst one race or, uh, in America that our culture is homogenous is being somewhat disingenuous in my opinion. | ||
So, I mean, if we're trying to save American culture, Which American culture are we trying to say? | ||
There's a big difference between even like you said like Southern culture and Northern culture and Western culture like in America itself and there's a lot of it and that differs between you know obviously white people too. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
So which question do you want me to answer? | ||
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Start with Political Education's question about which American culture are you talking about? | |
Can you give me the ability to mute myself? | ||
I gotta take a piss. | ||
I gotta talk over there. | ||
It's on Instagram when he comes back. | ||
We'll meet you when you come back, Jordan. | ||
Before we get started on any other questions, everybody that has their hand up, just know we're going to get to you at a time. | ||
I mean, it depends. | ||
If Nick has to leave, Nick has to leave. | ||
But we'll try to get to as many questions as possible. | ||
Yeah, I'm vibing. | ||
I'm here. | ||
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I'm chilling. | |
I honestly think we're very curious, though, because I've never traveled to that part of political theory, I guess, if you want to call it that. | ||
So I'm very curious. | ||
So if you want to start with political education's question. | ||
Yeah, no, and I appreciate it, because a lot of people just call me, like, racist, and they're like, shut up! | ||
You're racist! | ||
I appreciate the conversation. | ||
It's good. | ||
That's a better way to respond to a difference of opinion with, you know, curiosity and, you know, inquiries than, like, you know, you're all right. | ||
I hate you. | ||
So I appreciate it. | ||
But the question about culture is a valid one. | ||
It is true that there are cultures... America is a big country, and America has a lot of different populations which have been assimilated over the years, and there are regional differences, and there are all kinds of differences, but I think this fundamentally obfuscates the reality, which is that America, you know, does have a cohesive basic identity, which is to say that everybody in America speaks English. | ||
I mean, not everybody, but if we were to agree that there is a Cultural core to America, if we were to try to deduce what that is, it's speaking English. | ||
It's being Christian, frankly, and obviously there's some people that are not Christian, but even the people that are not Christian, they're brought up with biblical stories. | ||
They're brought up in a Western culture, influenced by the Bible, and they have a Christian morality. | ||
Even if they don't believe in Christianity, they're born a society shaped by it, right? | ||
We have shared experiences. | ||
Even if you're talking about you're from the South, the North and the South both share that historical experience of the Civil War. | ||
My ancestors came here about 120 years ago in the turn of the 20th century. | ||
I'm Italian, Mexican, and Irish, so I didn't participate in that. | ||
Or my ancestors didn't, rather. | ||
But my ancestors did participate in World War II, the Vietnam War, the industrialization of the country, and so on. | ||
So it's shared experiences, it's shared language, it's shared religion, or, you know, the ancestor or inheritance of religion. | ||
And those are just a few basic ones. | ||
So I agree that you could say that there are cultural differences across the country, but there also is a cultural core. | ||
And I know that I could say what is not American is, like, Chinese characters when you're writing, like, Mandarin. | ||
I know that what is not American is Buddhism. | ||
I know that what is not American is, you know, having your experience being the Great Leap Forward in China. | ||
I know that, you know, Islam is not a part of the American cultural core. | ||
We know what the American cultural core is. | ||
And to, you know, bring up some of these differences, while they are valid, I think it obfuscates the broader picture, which is there's sort of a continuum there. | ||
You know, would we say that Me being an Italian from Chicago is as different from an Anglo-Virginian than I am different from somebody who lives in the Congo? | ||
Would you say that there's the same degree of difference between an Italian Midwesterner and an Anglo-Southerner than there is between me and an African or the Anglo and, you know, an African in the Congo? | ||
Of course not. | ||
You know, there's a huge disparity between those two cultures and different languages and religions and customs and history and so on. | ||
And that's the clash we're talking about. | ||
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But at the same time, you've also got most of the immigration that we have coming into the country are also coming from Christianized and Westernized cultures. | |
I mean, I wouldn't exactly call most of Latin America a lack of Christianity as far as their culture. | ||
I would actually say that in a lot of ways, they're definitely more Christian than a lot of Americans are, even that practice Christianity. | ||
So how would Their immigration specifically sort of mess up the balance of culture in America. | ||
Well, again, there's going to be similarities. | ||
I mean, there are African Christians and there are Asian Christians. | ||
And there are Indians who speak English. | ||
There's going to be overlap. | ||
What we're talking about is the full boat. | ||
You know, Hispanics may practice a version of Christianity, but what is also true about Hispanics is that they're largely Catholic. | ||
I'm Catholic, of course, and there's a large contingent of Catholics in America, but we know that the American founding was characteristically Protestant, and the American population was characteristically Protestant for, you know, a hundred years after its founding, until the turn of the century brought a lot of South and Eastern Europeans over. | ||
So it's a Protestant Christian country versus Catholic. | ||
That's one difference right out of the gate. | ||
The other difference is that in a lot of Hispanic countries, you have a very pagan practice of Christianity. | ||
You know, their pagan roots go far deeper than their Christian roots. | ||
And so this is where you see a lot of cults and a lot of weird tribal type things going on. | ||
So even Christianity is very different. | ||
And, you know, this is maybe the closest population to Europeans, because obviously there's been a large degree of racial mixing because of colonialism. | ||
And obviously we brought Christianity, but even our closest relative speaks a different language, practices a different kind of Christianity, has a different historical expression of it. | ||
They were historical antagonists to America, you know, 150 years ago. | ||
The list goes on and on. | ||
I would say that, again, you can find differences between Americans and similarities between others, but again, I think this is kind of missing the forest for the trees. | ||
I think we all know what we're talking about here, that, you know, when Hispanics are coming in and taking over these neighborhoods, they look different, they sound different, the way of life is different, and those differences matter. | ||
And, you know, maybe those differences are interesting or unique, but I'd like to visit Mexico if I want to experience Mexican culture, not step outside of my door, you know what I'm saying? | ||
So, that's where I draw the line. | ||
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I find it to be somewhat interesting that you say that America was necessarily founded on Protestant Christian values when specifically the man that wrote the Declaration of Independence was an outspoken deist and contributed significantly to the Bill of Rights and the framing of the Constitution in and of itself. | |
So to try and place this sort of The theological essence behind the very first secular country to be founded in the history of the world to me is, it's extremely disingenuous because the whole reason that the country was founded without a state religion was so that there could be mixing of cultures and people could express their different cultures and their different religious beliefs in different ways. | ||
And I mean, there have been some violations along that line. | ||
We can, you know, even though I disagree with their, their faith, we can see sort of what happened to the LDS church in the late 1800s and early 1900s. | ||
Now, I think that, you know, I'm not, I'm not agreeing with their faith, but I do think that they were treated unfairly by a lot of government entities. | ||
So, I mean, to, to claim that America is a Protestant Christian nation or is even a Christian nation in and of itself is, is factually incorrect. | ||
Because we, our founders wanted to make sure that our citizens were able to practice whatever their belief systems were, as long as they were not interfering with the life, liberty, or property of another individual. | ||
So how can we frame this culture within a religious, within, you know, with religion being one aspect, if our founders didn't necessarily frame the country as a religious country overall? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, first of all, I don't like that you keep saying I'm disingenuous because I don't think I'm being disingenuous. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
Not you. | ||
Not you as an individual. | ||
Just the argument. | ||
The argument. | ||
Right. | ||
Of course. | ||
Well, I don't think it's disingenuous. | ||
I think it's just a different interpretation of what you mean by a country. | ||
If you think that the government is the country, then, you know, maybe that is where you might say something like that. | ||
But I think this ignores the fact that Most the vast majority of the population was Protestant Christian and I think you would find that even the founding fathers if they were deists or not they were influenced by Protestant Christian culture and British culture and And to say that, well, because the government has the separation of church and state in this doctrine, which, by the way, does not appear in the Constitution, but because of this doctrine, then that means that America is a secular country. | ||
Of course, maybe the government was intended to be secular in certain ways. | ||
The population was not secular. | ||
The civil society was not secular. | ||
You know, really was not secular in any meaningful way, except for the way in which they conducted their politics. | ||
You know, would we say that You know, there's this theory that George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed. | ||
You know, whether or not that's true, would we say that if it was true, if George Washington converted to Catholicism on his deathbed, that because he was the president and a framer, that America is a Catholic country? | ||
I mean, no. | ||
You know, we're talking about one deist who wrote the Declaration of Independence, allegedly, and the way the government is set up, versus how the population was, and how the population was for a long time. | ||
You know, the religious awakenings that happened in the country throughout the 19th and 18th centuries played a very important role in the country. | ||
Churches, Protestant and otherwise, played a very important role, and Americans' faith played a very important role in their culture and their politics for a long time. | ||
So to say that because the government lacked religious mechanisms means that America was a secular country or that the culture is not meaningfully Christian, I think that is just kind of a silly argument to make. | ||
I mean, we would certainly say that Turkey, Turkey had a secular Republican government since 1926. | ||
That's changed recently. | ||
Would we say that at any point since then, Turkey was not meaningfully Islamic or influenced by Islamic culture, Islamic values and so on? | ||
Of course not. | ||
And we wouldn't say that about a lot of other countries where similar things have happened. | ||
So I would say that, so no, I think that is a part of the cultural court. | ||
We're getting hung up on these, you know, well, what about this? | ||
What about that? | ||
We're talking about the big picture. | ||
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Super quick, Nick is trying to join the Zoom, but there's 100 people, so he can't. | |
He says it's full. | ||
Nick videos? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hang on, hang on. | ||
Tell Nick to join and sit in the waiting room. | ||
By the way, are you guys streaming this anywhere? | ||
Just out of curiosity. | ||
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I'm recording. | |
No, no, no. | ||
We're just recording it. | ||
Okay. | ||
You guys, are you going to post it anywhere? | ||
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It's up to you, yeah. | |
I'd be fine with it. | ||
I would want it to be posted. | ||
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It's a very large file. | |
Anybody that has co-host powers, don't do anything. | ||
I'm gonna remove people and then I'm gonna... Yeah, it says he can't even join the waiting room. | ||
Yeah, there's over 200 people in the waiting room. | ||
and then I'm gonna go through and find him. | ||
If you manually have your hand up like this it's gonna get tired so if you do just put your flag up and like that's raising your hand and we're gonna call on you. | ||
We will try to call on you because Jesus Christ there's a lot of those. | ||
Tell Nick okay I'm sorry for the disorganization just there's a lot of people in here so tell Nick videos to sit in the waiting room. | ||
I'm gonna Reese I got it I'm gonna find him do the thing. | ||
There's just so many people. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Can you make the limit higher? | ||
Cause I've been in a zoom with like 300 people before. | ||
I don't know what the price on that is though. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's like a 700 bucks. | ||
Nobody touched the waiting room. | ||
first year. | ||
It's a great thing. | ||
That's a lot of money. | ||
Nobody touch the waiting room. | ||
I'm not touching it. | ||
Yeah, I'm not touching it. | ||
Let the names keep coming in. | ||
Make sure he's muted. | ||
Jordan's muted. | ||
That's right. | ||
That's right. | ||
We forgot about Jordan. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Click in now. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Here, let me call him real quick. | ||
One second. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nick, you said just join the waiting room and they can add you in. | ||
Somebody else on the phone with him? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh yeah, this is definitely like the TikTok powerhouse. | ||
Every important political person on TikTok is here. | ||
Joshua Heisenberg joined at the beginning of the Zoom call. | ||
We said important. | ||
Yeah, we said important. | ||
We don't have the real Heisenberg here. | ||
Joshua Heisenberg joined at the beginning of the Zoom call. | ||
I was a little bit curious, not going to lie. | ||
His little kid I don't know, it said Joshua Heisenberg. | ||
I'm not sure, is his name Joshua? | ||
Somebody's playing GTA and just pointing a screen at GTA. | ||
Yeah, this happens. | ||
Oh yeah, last night it was Rocket League. | ||
Like Matty said, everybody that keeps raising your hand, dog, I've literally seen people's hands turn different colors because they're holding up too high. | ||
Just chillax, just chillax. | ||
We're just chilling here. | ||
If you lose blood circulation in your hand, be my guest. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nick's not in the waiting room. | ||
Oh, hey. | ||
Hey, what's up, Luke? | ||
Oh, Luke's here. | ||
Somebody unmute Luke. | ||
Oh, I found him. | ||
We got Luke. | ||
Unmute Luke. | ||
Oh, wait. | ||
No, he's not. | ||
I thought I did. | ||
This is legendary stuff right here. | ||
Since when do you get Nick Fuentes on a Zoom call? | ||
Is this the first Zoom call for you, Nick? | ||
Yeah it is, yeah. | ||
Get like Kyle Klutz here, like, I don't know. | ||
You gotta get all the people in here. | ||
Bring them into TikTok. | ||
Okay, next we have to get someone on the left, so we have to go back and forth, like right and left, like have a guest star on here. | ||
Let's get Karl Marx in. | ||
Get Marx in. | ||
So every political person we know is in here. | ||
Wait, is Nick in here now? | ||
Yeah, Nick's in here now. | ||
Lucas, proud Libbyism here from Liberal Hype House. | ||
Yeah, I got you. | ||
I unmuted. | ||
Thank you, thank you. | ||
The whole first page is you. | ||
Dude, there's so much power in this. | ||
Yeah, so much power. | ||
Wait, is Nick actually in here? | ||
Yeah, Nick just stepped away. | ||
Sorry. | ||
I can't see Nick. | ||
You're unmuted, I think. | ||
Unmute? | ||
Yeah, we can. | ||
Nick, like, make your microphone a little bit louder. | ||
Wait, guys, this is Luke, and I unmuted. | ||
Yes, we can hear you right now. | ||
We hear you, Luke. | ||
Everyone on first page is like political powerhouses that I'm seeing. | ||
I've yet to see everybody, honestly. | ||
Actually, Fredrick's still on my first page. | ||
He is part of the powerhouse! | ||
The GTA guy's on my first page. | ||
This is a collective of... Donald Trump, I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
Donald Trump is extremely important. | ||
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Yes, he's playing GTA for us. | |
Yeah, this is a collective of probably over a million followers for sure on TikTok. | ||
Way more than a million followers. | ||
Way more. | ||
Are we counting the group accounts as well? | ||
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I'm going to start calling on people just so we can get the... Make sure you keep your questions brief though, please. | |
Yeah, questions are brief. | ||
We're going to let the audience ask them. | ||
Alright, so I'm going to go to David Asher Berman. | ||
You're unmuted. | ||
I'm going to start calling on people just so we can get the. | ||
Okay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So yeah. | ||
Make sure you keep your questions brief though, please. | ||
Questions are brief. | ||
We're going to let the audience ask them. | ||
All right. | ||
So I'm going to go to David Asher Berman, your hand, you're unmuted. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
Ask your question. | ||
Yes, I'm a big Nick fan. | ||
Thanks for having me on. | ||
My biggest question is, so Lance videos, you guys, you're big Libertarians, right? | ||
I'm Libertarian on a lot of stuff, but I'm Conservative on some stuff, so I wouldn't consider myself a full-fledged Libertarian or a full-fledged Conservative. | ||
So, I mean, I'm kind of in the middle. | ||
Okay, and so your biggest thing, kind of, is like, if we were a full socialist country, like Bernie Sanders socialism, like, you think the country's completely You kind of broke up, I didn't hear what you said. | ||
You think, like, the country would be over, pretty much? | ||
Is that what your kind of idea of thought is? | ||
Well, the problem... See, the thing with Bernie Sanders is that his plans are even so radical that the establishment Democrats, like in Congress, they wouldn't pass anything. | ||
So if Bernie Sanders would become president, I think that he would become a lame duck, just because any time he passed, like, an executive order, Congress would just go around him and, like, develop, like, a bill or some type of legislation that would just completely annihilate everything. | ||
I don't think that Bernie Sanders would get a lot of his radical plans done. | ||
Like controlling rent on apartments like that's I would never pass. | ||
Even Medicare for all. | ||
That's the thing. | ||
So I think based on kind of what Nick has said, like, so demographically, like California, you said 30 years ago, it was bright red, like, like it was red every single time. | ||
Basically, with the influx of immigration, it's turned blue. | ||
And now we're seeing this with Texas. | ||
Texas, I think it's 2028, is expected to go blue for a presidential race. | ||
So, as the Democratic Party is shifting even further left, why do you guys say we need more immigrants when it's obvious that about 70% of immigrants are voting Democrat, and we're gonna get a full socialist country unless we stop this? | ||
If that's what you guys are, your biggest concern. | ||
Well, first of all, Bernie isn't full socialist. | ||
Second of all, At least I'm not advocating for a massive influx of immigrants, but where I disagree with America First and the Groypers is I don't think that we should set like racial quarters on immigration. | ||
I think that we should just accept like, you know, like whoever applies. | ||
I don't think... One I would say that regulates is overall immigrants. | ||
Even European immigrants vote Democrat. | ||
Yeah, I don't think that we accept far more immigrants than any other country. | ||
But again, at the same time, I don't think that we should just deport everybody like that, just to play partisan politics. | ||
It's literally estimated that deporting everybody could cost more than the war in Iraq. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I didn't say deport, I said bring in, which is net zero. | ||
Yeah, I don't think that we should just, we have so many illegals that are already here, we shouldn't keep letting in just like thousands, like hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year. | ||
Well that's my biggest question. | ||
How do you expect to keep the Republican party going if the immigrants are bringing in over a million by the year, our voting majority Democrat, in some states Trump won by less than 20,000 votes? | ||
A lot of the immigrants that vote mostly Democrat come from Mexico, and usually Mexico or anywhere in like Central America, South America, and Asia, Asia, like those countries there. | ||
They usually, they usually don't go to other, they don't usually go to like other states, like they usually go like California, Arizona, Texas, states like that. | ||
Yeah, Virginia. | ||
Virginia, yeah, a little bit. | ||
But they don't go up north in states like that. | ||
They're usually already blue. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Texas is, if we lose Texas, it's over. | ||
Well, a big reason why Texas is also turning blue is because a ton of people from California are moving to Texas as well, just because taxes and everything in California is so high. | ||
See, this is what I think is going to happen, because I think what's going to happen is this country is going to have to end up going so far left, like what happened with the UK, and then everybody's going to have to realize, like, this shit isn't working, and then we're going to have to come back, like what's happening right now with the UK. | ||
That's what's going to happen. | ||
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying you don't want to craft policy based on your political goals. | ||
You're not going to control immigration based on whether you're Republican. | ||
Yeah, I don't want to control immigration just to keep the country Republican. | ||
That's super partisan. | ||
Well, the other side's doing it anyway, so why not? | ||
Nick, I guess I have to call you guys by other names because... Yeah, we gotta get some names going. | ||
Okay, I'm just gonna say Nicholas and Nick, okay? | ||
How about that? | ||
Nicholas, I know you're making some faces. | ||
I'm guessing you disagree with that statement about the partisanship. | ||
Yeah, well, you know, here's the deal. | ||
Here's the deal, Jack. | ||
When it comes to politics, what are we really trying to do if we're not trying to win? | ||
I mean, partisanship is not like a soccer game that would be nice if we won, but if we don't, well, good game, everybody. | ||
I mean, if you look at what the Democrats are advocating, It's things are going to wreck the country. | ||
You know, it's universal health care with single payer. | ||
It's, you know, they want mass immigration, illegal immigration, legal immigration. | ||
They want abortion, gay marriage, trans story times and everything, or drag queen story time. | ||
Like, they have to be defeated. | ||
And if they're not defeated, they're going to destroy us. | ||
I mean, look at what they've been doing to Republicans. | ||
Look at what Obama did to Republicans. | ||
The I.O.S. | ||
is stripped. | ||
No, the IRS stripped the GOP of their tax-exempt status or conservative groups. | ||
He used backdoor gun control with environmental regulations. | ||
He put in place a policy with HUD that said that if your town is more than 50% white, They're gonna put Section 8 housing in your neighborhood and, like, destroy property values and so on. | ||
Like, the Democrats are playing for keeps. | ||
They're gonna craft hate speech legislation that'll throw us in jail if we say the wrong thing. | ||
That's already happened in Europe and in Canada. | ||
And we're sitting around like, well, it'd be nice if we won. | ||
Democrats are pouring immigrants into the country so they could vote for Democrats. | ||
And make it so that they'll never lose an election until the end of time. | ||
And we're saying, well, you know, if we were to resist that just so we can win an election, we'd be just as bad as them. | ||
And, you know, there's a phrase that Sam Francis liked to use, Samuel Francis, who's a great conservative thinker. | ||
He said that conservatives are beautiful losers. | ||
They don't care if they lose so long as they can say, well, we lost nobly. | ||
We lost, but we were beautiful. | ||
We were the most principled and we kept to the constitution. | ||
I want to win. | ||
I want to protect my kids. | ||
I want to keep America Christian. | ||
I want to protect workers. | ||
I want to end wars. | ||
And I'm willing to do that if that means shutting down immigration. | ||
Now, there's other reasons why we should shut down immigration, but I'm not going to say, well, we shouldn't engage in partisan politics because that is just to make us win. | ||
Look what the left does with no voter ID. | ||
What do you think that's about? | ||
Letting felons vote? | ||
And direct democracy? | ||
They're saying give it to the Electoral College? | ||
They're trying to change the whole system to rig it so they'll never lose again. | ||
And we're saying, well, we're going to play by the rules and we'll pass to the other teams sometimes. | ||
And, you know, we're going to sit this one out. | ||
It's just like, I don't know. | ||
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
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So let me chime in real quick. | |
So I agree with Nicholas on the fact that This is more than just, you know, I like Republicans versus Democrats. | ||
These are legit policies that's going to affect us on a wide scale, right? | ||
But what I don't understand with Nicholas is the fact that he was talking about not assimilating with other people. | ||
To me, instead of pushing parties, I think you should push policies. | ||
The only way to understand and get people to understand your policies and if it work is you actually be around people and help people. | ||
So if you're not allowing people to be around you or live around you that have different beliefs, how are they supposed to understand and gravitate towards your side? | ||
To me, that's more that grassroots movement, right? | ||
So how do you make that happen? | ||
And on that scale, what you need to have done? | ||
Well, we're trying to do that. | ||
I think that the America First policies, because, and that's a great question, the GOP and the Democratic Party are both corrupt. | ||
They're both controlled by donors and corporations. | ||
That's why Trump came in and really changed everything, because he was the only one that wasn't controlled by all that. | ||
So I agree with you that it's not about parties. | ||
I'm not, believe me, I'm not like a card-carrying GOP member. | ||
I love the Republican Party. | ||
I'm a conservative, okay? | ||
I'm a Christian, and those things come before... You're an anti-Semitic. | ||
No, I'm not. | ||
That's a very left-wing tactic. | ||
But in any case, what we're trying to do with our policies is make them appeal to non-traditional demographics. | ||
That's why we're pushing things in, you know, TikTok or on college campuses or whatever. | ||
And, you know, a lot of people that follow me or that are America first happen to not be white or happen to not be Christian or whatever. | ||
But they all understand that there's a need to keep the cultural core of the country. | ||
And it doesn't mean that we don't want to appeal to people who deviate from the cultural core. | ||
But even people that deviate have an interest in keeping the cultural core because they recognize that, you know, the cultural core of America is the goose that laid the golden egg. | ||
In other words, you can't get rid of all the things that made America great and expect America to still be great for everybody inside. | ||
And that's everybody. | ||
You know, that's why Michelle Malkin was one of the biggest, most high profile people to come out and support America first. | ||
She's not white. | ||
You know, I think she's Southeast Asian. | ||
And there are a lot of other people like that, too. | ||
So I think we're trying to make an appeal to other people. | ||
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But, you know, you're conflating culture with a religion and a race when they don't necessarily intertwine. | |
Like, I can be born in America and be Jewish and have the same exact culture as someone who's Christian. | ||
Like, yes, you do have, like, overlap of someone who's Jewish and Christian, yes, but I can be ethnically Jewish I can be genetically have a different skin color. | ||
That doesn't mean I have a different culture necessarily. | ||
It's more about the most how you were born into it. | ||
More often than not, this is the case. | ||
You know, people have brought up the example of black Americans or African Americans. | ||
You know, I know there's a lot of controversy about what they're supposed to be called, you know, with that TikTok that went viral the other day. | ||
But, you know, I just call them blacks or whatever. | ||
If you look at black and white culture in America, is black and white culture the same? | ||
You know, do they think the same politically? | ||
Do they listen to the same music? | ||
Do they wear the same clothes? | ||
Do they have to? | ||
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Shouldn't matter. | |
Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. | ||
Let me, let me make my point. | ||
The point, I'm not saying they should have to or anything like that. | ||
I'm saying that even in the case of Blacks and Whites who have been on this continent for 500 years together, and obviously, you know, Blacks came here under different circumstances than White people, but nevertheless, you know, Blacks have been on this continent with White people for 500 years, and, you know, they're not perfectly assimilated in the same way that anybody else is. | ||
And so, and all this is to say that Assimilation on a large scale is a much bigger ask than people think it is. | ||
People think it's like, oh well, you know, you watch Netflix and you buy Nike, therefore you're assimilated. | ||
But even today, race relations between blacks and whites has not been repaired, and it's not totally together, and they don't have a complete and total monoculture. |