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Those guys are a great unit.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, March 26, 2026.
This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media Assassination Episode 1854.
This is no agenda.
Testing the Trump algo and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern San Francisco Bay Refinery Row, waiting for free oil.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Laudenburg in the morning.
Yeah, baby, it's going to be a bonanza.
It's going to be free oil for everybody.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
I love how you were saying on Sunday show, like, Trump's got to do something like three seconds later.
He's like, okay, everything's good.
We're talking.
We got a thing happening.
And we know the algo.
We know.
It's like, okay, yes.
And then it'll be something horrible and it's going to threaten again.
We didn't even get to do a show in the meantime while his algo ran.
Yeah, two or three iterations of the system took place between shows.
I think you have a three by three.
I just want to play one clip of this is this is how our president plays the art of the deal.
And when you just look at it, you can just listen to the reports.
It's like, ah, okay, yeah, well, we know what to expect.
We turn out of the war with Iran in the Oval Office today.
President Trump told our senior White House correspondent, Ed O'Keefe, that Iranian negotiators have offered the United States what the president described as an expensive gift.
Here's Ed with the details: even as Iran launched missiles towards Israel and other Gulf nations today, we're in negotiations right now.
President Trump claimed the regime is so near defeat, it has no choice but to negotiate an end to the war.
We killed all their leadership, and then they met to choose new leaders, and we killed all of them.
And now we have a new group.
We have really regime change.
You know, this is a change in the regime.
What makes you trust them?
I don't trust anybody.
I don't trust you.
Why do you say what makes you trust?
Do you think I trust them?
And why bother talking to them?
Because they're going to make a deal.
They're going to make a deal.
They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.
They gave us a present, and the president arrived today.
And it was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money.
And I'm not going to tell you what that present is.
The president would only say that present had to do with oil and gas in the Strait of Hormuz, a major shipping route that remains blocked.
Average gas prices have risen for 24 consecutive days, now nearing $4 a gallon nationwide.
But even as the two countries are negotiating indirectly, the U.S. is sending 5,000 troops to the region on top of the more than 50,000 already deployed.
Those troops could be ordered to take Karg Island, a key oil shipping depot, or deploy on the Iranian coastline to help secure the strait.
It seems so obvious.
Like, you know, oh, well, we're going to bomb them.
And then, oh, well, you know, they sent me a present.
And then, but yeah, I don't know who's talking.
Hey, these are the guys.
They must be the guys.
Just before the show, he said the present was eight, maybe ten full tankers of oil shipped through the Strait of Hormuz with Pakistani flags.
Yes.
Yeah, that's the general consensus from everybody.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
Sounds right.
I don't know how big of a gift that is.
Free oil.
Free money.
For who, though?
Who's it free for?
I don't know.
I have no idea where those tankers are going.
You have to see where the tankers are going.
Yeah, I got a three by three.
All right.
Hold on a second.
Now it's time for a three by three experiment, everybody.
Comparing stories for ABC, CBS, and MDC.
They're never ending 3x3s.
All right, the 3x3.
It's been a while, but you're back in the saddle, so 3x3s are on deck again.
So pretty much the same reporting, kind of neutral to anti-Trump.
Find the right clip to make him look like an idiot.
Let's go ahead and start with the longest one, which is the ABC.
Even as President Trump claims peace talks are underway, tonight the Army preparing to deploy 600 troops from the elite 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East to support the war.
The president has said he does not plan to put boots on the ground, but the soldiers of the 82nd are trained to parachute behind enemy lines.
Their deployment on top of the 4,500 Marines and sailors expected to arrive in the region this week.
It comes as President Trump and Iran send clashing messages about whether they're negotiating.
Trump insists they are.
The leaders are all gone.
Nobody knows who to talk to.
But we're actually talking to the right people and they want to make a deal so badly.
Iran says that is simply not true.
That there are no talks and that Trump statements are part of efforts to...
How come they don't say Iran claims that is not true?
That would be a little more even-keeled, I think, if they said.
Yeah, exactly.
Good point.
Yeah.
Iran says that is simply not true.
That there are no talks and that Trump statements are part of efforts to reduce energy prices and buy time for the implementation of his military plans.
The president will not say which Iranian leaders the U.S. is talking to.
Today, he cryptically noted that he knows Iran is going to make a deal because they just gave the U.S. what he called a very big present.
They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.
They gave us a present, and the president arrived today.
It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money.
And I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.
Prize?
They could have cut that out.
What?
They could have cut the um um uh out they normally do.
No, that's not fun.
Very significant prize.
And they gave it to us, and they said they were going to give us.
So that meant one thing to me, would deal with the right people.
The White House would not say what exactly that gift is.
The president would only say it's related to oil and gas passing through the Strait of Hermuz.
Iranian officials still insist there are no negotiations underway with the United States.
But tonight, sources tell me the Trump administration has sent over a 15-point peace plan to Iran by way of Pakistan with hopes of ending this war, David.
Yeah, so the Pakistanis are our guys now in the middle, which is kind of interesting.
Yeah, which brings me to a clip that's going to come up shortly thereafter, these three, which brings in another player, which nobody's talking about, which I don't understand why.
Let's go to CBS.
Okay, CBS.
Even as Iran launched missiles towards Israel and other Gulf nations today.
We're in negotiations right now.
President Trump claimed the regime is so near defeat, it has no choice but to negotiate an end to the war.
We killed all their leadership, and then they met to choose new leaders, and we killed all of them.
And now we have a new group.
We have really regime change.
You know, this is a change in the regime.
What makes you trust them?
I don't trust anybody.
I don't trust you.
Why do you say what makes you trust?
Do you think I trust them?
And why bother talking to them?
Because they're going to make a deal.
They're going to make a deal.
They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.
They gave us a present, and the president arrived today.
And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money.
And I'm not going to tell you what that present is.
The president would only say that present had to do with oil and gas and the Strait of Hormuz, the major shipping route that remains blocked.
Average gas prices have risen for 24 consecutive days, now nearing $4 a gallon nationwide.
But even as the two countries are negotiating indirectly, the U.S. is sending 5,000 troops to the region on top of the more than 50,000 already deployed.
Those troops could be ordered to take Karg Island, a key oil shipping depot, or deploy on the Iranian coastline to help secure the strait.
And tonight, CBS News has learned more than a thousand troops from the Army's 82nd Airborne Division are also deploying to the Middle East.
They specialize in securing territory by parachuting out of airplanes, Tony.
So that's parachute reports.
Parachutes on the ground.
Well, I mean, they're all hung up on the present, which I'm sure Trump said that that way specifically for this reason, so everybody would pick it up.
Yeah, well, they definitely did.
So we're going to move to NBC, where because Richard Engel is the reporter, I have to assume this has gotten clearance, and this may be the official whatever kind of report we're going to talk about.
I mean, the official intelligence sourced report is what I'm thinking.
And that's from that's from, okay, here's Engel.
More American troops we're learning tonight are heading to the Middle East to join the war with Iran.
More than 1,000 from the 82nd Airborne Division, two sources familiar with the matter, tell NBC News they will soon deploy to the Gulf.
This, as President Trump just tonight, appeared to be already declaring victory.
This war has been won.
At the exact time he was speaking, we filmed this: an Iranian cluster bomb exploding over Tel Aviv.
We're actually talking to the right people and they want to make a deal so badly.
For now, the war is intensifying.
Israel today announced new massive strikes on what it described as Iran's main production site for explosive material.
U.S. airstrikes aren't slowing down either, hitting around 500 targets a day.
And Iran is still firing on Israel around the clock.
Back-channel diplomacy does appear to be taking shape.
Pakistan today offered to mediate between the U.S. and Iran.
Two sources telling NBC News in-person negotiations could happen in the coming days.
But not everyone wants a quick exit.
Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel will keep attacking Iran and Lebanon until Israel's aims are achieved.
And Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler, Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has told President Trump that Riyadh is concerned about leaving Iran angry and capable of continuing to strike its neighbors in the region, according to a senior Saudi official.
Yeah, I'm hearing from different military sources that the GCC nations are getting mad at us.
I don't know if that's true or if someone's just psyoping me, but that's what I'm hearing.
Like, yeah, they're mad.
They don't like it.
What amazes me?
I haven't heard that.
Yeah, well, you know, what amazes me, you know, we're talking, of course, it's, you know, this is ABC, NBC, CBS, and we're talking about $4 a gallon of gas.
But what this is doing, and I think what I came to realize this morning as I'm putting all the show prep together, this Strait of Hormuz, these guys have had their hands on the throat of Asia, the European Union, UK,
for decades.
Particularly when it comes to liquid natural gas.
Yeah, and this, by the way, was the kind of finale or endpoint of the spook show Rubicon.
Yes, with the back in the day.
Yeah, but they sank a ship.
They sank a ship in the middle of the ship.
Yeah, they sank a ship in the middle of it to screw it up.
Well, no one's done that yet.
But it's amazing how, you know, because they're oil baron, he's he's texting me every five minutes, you know, like, oh, this is going to happen.
We're going to be here forever.
And of course, he's benefiting from oil prices.
But where he's really benefiting is from gas.
I think he's hedged 40% gas, 60% oil.
He's had Japanese in town all day.
They're signing long-term contracts for Texas gas.
They're saying if this war continues, they will run out of LNG, and that'll be in a couple of weeks.
Diesel is also an issue.
But it's the gas, I think, that people are overlooking.
Here's, what was this?
CBS had a report on it.
As drones and missiles rain havoc on oil and gas facilities across the Middle East, thousands of miles away, the war has triggered a crisis in Asia, with energy shortages hitting almost every country on the continent.
All dependent enough with the nat pops, people.
On the Persian Gulf for supply.
Japan and South Korea are tapping into strategic reserves, while developing countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, and the Philippines are rationing fuel and closing gas stations.
In India, protests have erupted over surging prices and acute shortages.
China has reserves and pipelines, but has already banned exports of jet fuel, diesel, and fertilizer, which is having a knock-on effect.
In self-governed Taiwan that produces the world's high-end semiconductors, there are serious concerns of what a protracted conflict will mean for the island democracy that imports 97% of its energy.
We are going to feel the same impact as other countries.
You know, the rising aero energy price, rising oil price, they're going to hurt our economy, our economy.
It's Deputy Foreign Minister Chen Ming-chi says the government is now racing to find alternative supplies.
What happened in the Middle East tell us that's very important for us to diversify our energy supply.
Will Taiwan be buying more LNG from the United States?
Definitely.
I think that we have to diversify.
If the crisis in the Middle East drags on, it could prove to be a windfall for American energy companies, in particular, natural gas producers, as governments across Asia, including here in Taiwan, try to secure long-term supply.
Luckily, you know a lot about this.
Where do we get our diesel from?
That requires a different is that the Venezuelan oil loan?
No, no, you can get diesel pretty much from anything.
Okay, so we're actually in a good kind of differential.
The problem with diesel right now is states like California implemented this new sulfur diesel diesel because diesel necessarily has sulfur, just always the way it was made.
And now they've restricted that, and it makes diesel cost more than high octane.
Right.
But that's California.
No, that, yeah, but because of the nature of that fuel, it's one of those things that if you do it in one place, you have to do it everywhere.
Oh, okay.
So, so California screws it up for everybody?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
Well, screw those guys.
That's us.
Foam finger number one.
The EU is also in, and they were already in a lot of trouble with, you know, cutting off Russian gas or refusing to take it.
And then, you know, I guess Biden blew up the Nord Stream 2, didn't make it easier.
And now there's nothing coming out of Harmuz.
And we're the guys.
We seem to be in the catbird seat.
We have a strategy that is built for a world of higher uncertainty with risks and scenarios at its core.
Mrs. Fifi Lagarde.
We have a graduated set of options for responding, and we are starting.
A graduated set of options.
That's interesting.
From a better place, should we need to act?
And we will not act before we have sufficient information on the size and persistence of the shock and its propagation.
Shock!
At its most recent meeting last week, the ECB kept interest rates on hold as expected while warning of higher inflation and lower growth due to the war.
But analysts now expect the central bank to raise interest rates as early as next month to curb a likely rise in consumer prices.
That's great.
Higher global oil and gas costs have led to immediate petrol price hikes in the Eurozone and brought back memories of the energy shock that followed Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
So our favorite word is already being bandied about Europe, which is stagflation.
Yeah.
I'm not convinced that stagflation is what's going on.
Well, they're not producing anything.
What do they make anymore?
Well, yeah, but they can sell Chinese goods and say they did them.
Yeah, I guess they could.
They could.
But I don't know.
To me, it just seems like, okay, this is pretty good for America.
I mean, if we figure, I mean, if California would stop the nonsense with the sulfur, then wouldn't we be kind of okay?
We got gas, lots of it.
What do you think the price of gas is here?
But I'm talking about like natural gas.
Oh, probably seven, eight bucks at this point.
Seven, okay.
Yeah.
And it's premium here is $460.
Yeah.
You know, the rate.
Who still uses regular?
Should I be doing it?
I think you can get.
Well, I'm not sure.
I mean, you know, this is this is a quite, I think you've answered this for me before, but I mean, do I need to have premium in a modern vehicle?
Is that a necessity?
Or is this some marketing thing that I'm falling into?
No, you should use premium.
Okay.
And what vehicle should I not be using premium?
When it says when you open the little thing, it says use regular.
When it says that, then you use regular.
Okay.
Rental cars.
All rental cars.
Oh, this is that's a good, that's a good point.
I've probably always put premium into my rental.
Oh, I would never do that.
What a dumb idea.
What a dummy.
Hey, don't worry.
I'll take care of the gas myself.
87.
Here you go, 87 Octane.
It knocks a little bit, but otherwise it's a good ride.
Actually, all the newer cars have not computers.
They'll just tone it back and it won't knock.
Right.
Okay.
So you still haven't really answered my question.
Is it a year?
Is it a type of engine?
What is it?
It's the compression mostly and also what it's required to maintain a certain horsepower.
Okay.
You could probably put, I mean, you could put premium in, or crap, I'm saying that regular gas into a premium engine, like, let's say, Alexis, and it would say, oh, this is no good.
And if you detune the engine, you're driving around a junker.
I don't need to drive fast, man.
If it saves me a dollar a gallon, it's not a dollar, and I would recommend it.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to play these clips.
This is kind of a follow-up to the three by three.
But this is from NTD.
Okay.
Which one?
And these are the Trump-Iran talks.
Iran wanted to talk, and President Trump is willing to listen.
That's what the White House is saying today as the Central Command announces fresh results from Operation Epic Fury.
Joining us now live as NTD's White House correspondent, Iris Tao.
Good evening, Iris.
What is the latest from the White House?
You didn't do as well, Tiff.
So as the Trump administration has reportedly presented...
What?
What do you see?
I usually take those big gaps out.
That's okay.
I thought it was all right.
How are you feeling, by the way?
Sorry, I forgot to ask.
I feel pretty much the same as I did last time, but I think my voice is a little gravelier.
It has a sex appeal to it that I'm kind of digging.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, warning that the president does not bluff.
Watch.
President's preference is always peace.
There does not need to be any more death and destruction.
But if Iran fails to accept the reality of the current moment, if they fail to understand that they have been defeated militarily and will continue to be, President Trump will ensure they are hit harder than they have ever been hit before.
President Trump does not bluff, and he is prepared to unleash hell.
Iran should not miscalculate again.
And just looking at the algo, I think it's pretty safe to predict he's going to hit something hard again.
You might be right.
That's just how he works.
Every single time.
Like, okay, all right.
It's getting a little old.
Well, it's the system.
It's how he runs it.
And I'm happy I don't have to run it.
So the thing about NTD is they do bring in new information at these next two clips.
The third one in particular, total clip, is it's like nobody's talking about half this stuff on the mainstream.
And let's go with the clip two schedule.
And Tiff, the White House today also announcing that President Trump's meeting with China's Xi Jinping will take place in Beijing now on May 14th and 15th.
Of course, that meeting was previously postponed amid the war in Iran.
And when asked today if the new timeline means that a war will also wrap up before then, the White House reiterates that the original timeline for the war was four to six weeks, but now they are ahead of schedule.
I saw the cabinet meeting this morning as I'm putting clips together.
It's like, do I need to clip anything?
Answer no.
But the president said the same thing.
It's like, we had four to six weeks.
We're way ahead of schedule.
I think we got like two weeks left, but we're way ahead of schedule.
Everything's hunky-dory.
Should be wrapping it up pretty soon.
Well, let's hope so.
Now, this is the one that kind of got my attention.
Made me put these together, which is adding Turkey to the mix.
Nobody is discussing this.
Almost a month into the war in Iran, and the United States and Israel continue launching strikes against the Iranian regime.
This as Turkey says it's now mediating talks between the U.S. and Iran to help bring an end to the war.
NTD's Jason Perry has the latest war update.
U.S. forces on Wednesday report striking Iranian military infrastructure that has threatened American troops and regional partners for decades.
The U.S. military also addressing claims that the Iranian regime shot down a U.S. fighter jet, saying in a post on X that the claim is false, adding that no U.S. fighter aircraft have been shot down by Iran.
Fighting alongside the U.S., the Israeli Air Force saying they completed another wave of overnight attacks in Iran.
This one on weapons production sites in and near Tehran, including a strike on a facility used for developing submarines.
The Israeli general saying this the day before.
The Iranians plan to launch hundreds of missiles towards Israel on the first day of the operation.
They fired fewer than 100 on the first day and half that amount on the second day.
The number of launches decreased very quickly.
The average is roughly about 10 missiles per day.
An Iranian missile was seen falling from the sky in Israel on Wednesday, and workers cleaning up the aftermath from an Iranian missile that struck Israel's largest city, Tel Aviv.
Also in the region, a Turkish official telling Reuters on Wednesday that Turkey is now mediating talks between the U.S. and Iran in an effort to help bring an end to the war.
The Turkish official did not elaborate on what messages were being passed between the U.S. and Iran, but he did say that messages were also being passed on to Gulf countries who have been caught up in the war.
This, as Iranian attack drones reportedly struck a fuel tank at Kuwait International Airport the same day.
Hmm.
There's no mention of Turkey by anybody except these guys.
And it makes more sense if you think about it.
Well, they're Pakistani.
They're in the region.
Now, the Pakistan stuff, that has to be about oil for China.
That's got to be some backroom deal.
Hey, hey, Trump, we need to give us some oil, man.
Come on.
Ships on our way.
That's got to be what that is.
That would make more sense.
But they're not.
Pakistanis aren't known for negotiating peace deals, but the Turks are always trying to get in on the action.
Yeah.
Always horning in.
Well, they're NATO members, so they do have some standing.
The last of the clips just mentions Kuwait and Lebanon, which are still kind of sideshows.
Well, that's Israel's deal, I think.
Israel is in charge.
Kuwait's ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva saying this about the situation.
What we are witnessing today is a persistent aggressive approach that disregards all the efforts and initiatives undertaken by the state of Kuwait and other countries in the region over many years to establish the principles of good neighborliness and build trust.
And in another development, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying Israel is determined to, quote, fundamentally change the situation in Lebanon.
And the Israel Defense Forces said they'll continue to operate against Hezbollah, accusing the terrorist group of attacking Israel on behalf of the Iranian regime.
Yeah, Israel's got its own thing.
I think it was France 24 had a report on how the U.S. interests have diverged from Israel.
The still smoldering aftermath of Iranian airstrikes on Tel Aviv Tuesday morning.
Weeks into the conflict, the number of missiles launched at Israel was waning.
But in recent days, they've started raining down again, casting doubts on just how destroyed Iran's ballistic missile program actually is.
Now, U.S. President Donald Trump is U-turning on the war from escalating threats to negotiations with Tehran.
After speaking with Trump, Israel's prime minister attempted to show unity while emphasizing the fight will go on.
President Trump believes there's a chance to leverage the tremendous achievements of the IDF and the U.S. military in order to realize the war's objectives in an agreement, an agreement that will safeguard our vital interests.
At the same time, we continue to strike both in Iran and in Lebanon.
Israel has been clear.
Its goal is to bring down the Iranian regime.
But U.S. war objectives continue to shift from the destruction of the nuclear program to ballistic capabilities or even at one point regime change.
Now, faced with the possibility its American partner may want out of the conflict altogether, Israel is trying to convince the world the war isn't over.
We continue to attack Iran with all our might.
Regarding Lebanon, Hezbollah made the grave mistake when it attacked Israel as a tool of the Iranian terrorist regime.
And it is paying and will pay a heavy price.
Israel wants to avoid a repeat of the 12-day war in June 2025, which ended at the insistence of Donald Trump.
So there's a little disagreement there.
Trump needs to do what BB says.
I don't understand.
It's not listening.
Well, the Israelis are going to be on their own.
They sure are.
Did you see that theory?
Someone sent it to us this morning.
If you were looking at a grand plan, how, and it kind of explains our lackadaisical approach to Syria.
Hey, you used to be an ISIS guy.
You got a suit on.
You can run the country.
Yeah, with a new name.
Change your name, throw on the suit, you're good to go.
So the thesis is that this is all about us gaining complete energy dominance.
So we cut off China with their Syria connection because they had the whole transit thing set up.
We got Venezuela, and that Venezuela oil is being traded in dollars.
Now we see what happens with the Straits of Hormuz.
I personally think we're going to take over the island, Karg Island, and we'll be running that part, seems like.
And again, making sure it gets sold in dollars, especially to you, China.
And then the LNG.
Yeah, at the real price.
Yeah, at retail.
No more wholesale for you, retail prices.
And then the LNG part, I think this is much bigger than we realize.
Europe has to buy it from us.
Asia has to buy it from us.
You know, we're going to power all of the infrastructure in all the AI.
They took out a whole bunch of data centers, too.
It's kind of interesting.
Amazon data centers.
There's your AI.
They bombed one?
Yeah, a couple of them.
Yeah, they bombed a couple.
You're in Iran?
No, no, in Saudi Arabia.
Who bombed them?
The Iranians.
Well, that's interesting.
Yeah.
Let me see if I still have that.
I have a link somewhere about it.
Yeah, they took out a actually, it was our boots on the ground guy.
Here he is.
Let me see.
This is from our guy in the region.
A new casualty of war is data centers and cloud service providers, both AWS locations, oh, in Bahrain, I'm sorry, and UAE, not Saudi Arabia, were targeted in the past three weeks.
The impact was quite devastating as data center physical security protects from an intruder or fire, but no data center is designed to withstand a direct drone or ballistic missile hit.
Now consider the future crosshair the world will have around shiny new and expensive AI data centers and the potential cost of fortifying.
So, you know, I think somehow wrapped up in this is, and that could be part of Trump's maniacal idea that AI is the new oil, the most important thing in the world,
and you can't power them without our nuclear and LNG plants, and we're going to outrun China with it.
China is really hurting, I think, from this oil glut, much less than we are.
So if there's a big plan, a big strategy behind it, part of it is working.
I think the dollar seems to be getting stronger, which in my mind means people need dollars to get energy.
And the next shoot, the next boot to fall on the ground would be, hey, Russia, go ahead and sell it.
Let Russia sell the oil real cheap.
We've already kind of started that.
Well, we'll see.
It seems too damn complicated.
Well, what do you mean?
I mean, you got all these moving parts.
You've got the, you know, oil and gas.
And then there's all these other subcategories.
In fact, you can play this clip, which is urea is another missing element in Australia.
Oh, that's the pig urine.
Well, it comes from petroleum.
Yeah, but pig urine.
We've talked about this stuff.
You need it for your climate change-friendly diesel.
Well, there are fresh warnings that Australia's food production could be halved in months as the war in Iran disrupts supply chains.
So what's the biggest threat to our farmers?
Well, it all comes down to fuel and fertilizer.
First of all, imports 96% of our urea fertilizers from overseas, with over half of that coming from the Middle East.
But with the war, exports have ground to a halt, and that will impact our farmers and eventually our food at supermarkets.
Right.
Fertilizer.
Again, how could we let these numb nuts in Iran control all of this?
This is what's being exposed.
And the other bad actor, and this is which nobody's talking about, because it's a little esoteric, which is helium.
Yes.
I had a clip about that, I think.
And you need that to cool down stuff, like chip manufacturing.
It's necessary for cheap chip manufacturing.
And TMSC has only got like three weeks' supply left, I think.
Samsung has about three or four months.
And if you have to shut down one of these plants, like the one in Taiwan, it could take up to five months to get it back up.
Oh, really?
You can't just flip the switch on those?
No, no switch flipping.
Really?
Why is that?
The process is complex.
Well, I mean, okay, so you don't have any helium.
Okay, we got to stop.
But then you start it up again.
Do you happen to know the complexity of it?
I'm not unsure of it, but there's a lot of moving parts.
Well, and it's one of those things that has to be running all the time.
I'm thinking by Wednesday next week, this thing is we've got something wrapped up.
If not, it's going to get really ugly because then they can just drag on.
I found CNN had retired, what is he, general, I think, or admiral.
I don't know who it is now.
Steven Anderson.
And he had some pretty decent things to say about the so-called boots on the ground because the 82nd Airborne, they're elite guys and gals.
They go and do stuff and get stuff done.
And I got a couple clips.
President Trump said Tuesday, Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, said to lead negotiations, officials telling CNN a potential meeting this weekend could happen in Pakistan, although exact timing and location remains very fluid.
The president also has said Secretary Rubio, along with Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and the President's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, will take part in negotiations with Iran, although it's still unclear whether they'll travel to Pakistan for a meeting this weekend.
Let's discuss all of this with retired Brigadier General Steve Anderson.
General, really appreciate you coming in.
I want to start with the headlines that people may have seen, CNN reported, about a deployment of about 1,000 troops from the 82nd Airborne.
And just to start with the 82nd Airborne itself, spent a lot of time in Fort Prague as a kid.
The significance of the unit.
It's a great unit.
The immediate response.
It's a great unit.
I tell you, those guys are a great unit.
Force that they put together, probably about 1,000 troops, although some people are saying perhaps 2,000.
That's probably about a battalion's worth.
They can be on the ground in about 22 hours or so to fly to a place like probably Al-Udid Air Base and Qatar.
That would put them, if the mission is Karg Island, they'd be about 250 miles away, still a long shot, but still something they could do.
If the mission is in the Strait of Hormuz, as some people have talked about, that could be also 250 miles away, and they could go to season island there.
But I mean, this is a light unit, okay?
So they're going to have cruise serve weapons.
They're going to have individual weapons.
They're going to have some mortars.
They're going to have aviation support.
They're going to have Apache helicopters.
They're going to probably be lifted in on Chinooks or maybe even Blackhawks.
Probably take about 70 some-odd Blackhawks to move a unit of that size, a battalion size, into Carg Island.
If they had C-130s and they wanted to do an airborne operation, which they could, it'd take about probably 15 or so C-130s.
But again, that's a very, very dangerous situation.
Yeah, I'm thinking the retired military man here is sending some messages.
That sounds plausible to me.
82nd airborne, Apaches, drop them in, take over the island.
The buildup that we've seen also, Marine units have been moving toward the region as well.
I think there's a lot of questions about what it actually means, whether it's an optionality issue or whether it is there are definitely going to be boots on the ground.
Speaker Mike Johnson said this when he was asked about it.
Listen.
The buildup of troops is very different than boots on the ground.
We don't have boots on the ground.
We just got a lot in the region, man.
They're not on the ground.
They're in the water.
Okay, feet's in the water.
I don't think that's the intention, but I think Iran should watch that buildup, and they need to take note of that.
The distinction there, I understand it on its face, but a buildup at this level to where it's at right now, is this something that can be pulled back with no repercussions?
Absolutely, Phil.
I mean, it could.
I mean, it could be a bargaining chip, you know, for diplomacy, just like Speaker Johnson suggests.
The Mew is going to be a very capable entity.
Right now, the 31st Mew, we believe, is at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, but they still got to come through the Strait of Hormuz, you know, if, in fact, they're going to go to something like Karg or Karg Island or one of the islands within the Strait.
But, I mean, I think that putting boots on the ground obviously would be a huge step forward.
And, you know, we were talking mission tree big time, but perhaps they're just trying to position these forces over there in the east to give them some options later on.
Send a signal on some level.
Yes, I'll send a signal on some level.
Final one.
Just because I thought there was a fun little quote in here.
When it comes to the Strait of Hormuz, obviously there has been no major breakthrough.
There have been no naval escorts.
The insurance proposal wasn't enough to trigger tankers and their personnel saying, sure, we'll take a shot at this.
Is there a viable military solution to that that the U.S. would be considering right now?
I would think that probably the only viable military solution, the one that makes the most sense, is to have some kind of an escort mission.
But it's going to still be fraught with peril because you're talking about an enemy, a committed enemy, 200,000 religious fanatics.
That's what the IRGC is.
These people are fighting to the death.
They are not going to go down easily.
It's either kill or be killed.
They know if there's any kind of a regime change, they're gone.
So they're going to continue to use all their asymmetric capabilities.
They're going to use mines.
They're going to use missiles.
They're going to use probably some of the cruise missiles, homemade cruise missiles.
You remember Phil?
Oh, when the Moscow was sunk by the Ukrainians four years ago.
Homemade cruise missiles.
I made one the other day.
Probably some of the cruise missiles, homemade cruise missiles.
You remember Phil when the Mospo was sunk by the Ukrainians four years ago?
That was essentially a surfboard on steroids.
They also got drones, as we all know.
So they're going to use all those elements of their power, their asymmetric power, to try to interdict the strait as best they possibly can.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Well, maybe they want to take the how about this?
Okay.
So Trump is in talks with a renegade offshoot of the IRGC.
Obviously.
Yeah, with some hot shots.
Some guys who can do stop.
They can do stuff.
They can do stuff.
Well, they obviously can show, and that's why they sent the 10 ships through to show that, watch, we're going to watch how they go right through.
There's a gift.
Take these ships.
And so nobody even took a shot at them.
Yes, right.
So we're in charge down here.
But the Ayatollah's or whoever the other side, the faction, another faction up north owns that has got that island, and they're the ones that are still going to be benefiting from all the oil that they're going to be able to pump out of that place.
That's the oil export area.
So if you guys can grab that for us, you've got the firepower to do it.
You've already bombed the crap out of it.
Now just grab it and lock it down, and we're good to go.
Possible.
Kind of like it.
Yeah, why not?
We do that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Fight for someone else.
The Jews usually.
Meanwhile, Jesse Waters sent Johnny out for spring break.
Always a hoot.
Did you see this one?
I was having, I almost, I was going to do a three-part clip.
I only have two.
Yes, I did.
It was a typical, kind of disgusting because the girls are all sluts and many of them are just gorgeous.
Yes.
And drunk.
What's this?
Most surprising thing.
Well, I got here the first day I hooked up with a guy and I'm going to do one a day.
We sent Johnny down there for a little welfare check.
What college do you guys go to?
GDC.
Sacred Heart University.
Oh, I say.
Spring breaks 2026.
What is the game plan?
Drinking.
Blackout with my rock out.
If my mom is watching this, I'm out with my rack out.
Now, the thing about this that's always overlooked.
I'm kind of a student of this segment.
Can you turn your mic down just a little bit?
You're just crunching a little bit.
Sorry.
So I try to keep up with this.
And one of the things that the subtext is: these are all college students, and he has them named the colleges.
Yeah.
So if you go to Ohio State, you're going to be blacking out with your racket.
Blackout with my rack out.
I mean, come on.
Spring break 2026.
What is the game plan?
Drinking.
Blackout with my rackout.
If my mom is watching, I'm sorry, mom, but I've been getting pretty drunk almost every day.
Hook up with some girls, get with as many girls as we can, and not come back with the STD.
Wake out with one person each night, that's it.
So, how many guys have you made out with this week?
I've been here for about 10 days.
So, 10.
What were their names?
I don't remember.
Name one.
Uh, what is the craziest thing you've seen at spring break?
Not that crazy.
I've seen people do like cocaine off of boobs.
I saw a girl like black out on the street.
That was pretty exciting.
Sunday mimosa drag races.
You see, I gotta take his pants off in the middle of the club.
There's a lot of famous people down here.
Have you seen Johnny Belisario?
What?
Never mind.
Okay.
What is the wildest thing you've done down here?
Got with somebody the first night that I came down here.
Pole medicine.
Two days ago.
Stripping naked, getting into the water.
You gotta say, you gotta say.
What'd you do?
You went something crazy.
On the strip.
Honestly.
All right, on the strip.
No, we have this.
What issue facing America is the most important to you?
What bikini I'm gonna wear next?
We just have to remind everybody that man on the street segments are the most fun for any television producer because you can mold it and shape it however you want.
Because I'm sure there were some kids going, I'm really concerned about what's happening in Iran.
Okay, maybe not.
Who do you go to?
University of North Florida in Jacksonville.
Georgetown University.
The Ohio State University.
How woke is your school?
Woke?
Like, party-wise?
We're woke as pretty woke, I will say.
They're crazy over there.
What is the definition of woke?
The definition of woke.
Oh my gosh.
That's like a difficult question.
What happens at spring break?
You have a few people offering you to do things for money.
That's probably the craziest.
My friend was treaking all day last night.
My friend Pete last night.
Why do you do that?
Because he's a fing degenerate.
I just saw a guy start punching this other guy.
Was he really good or was it just...
Actually, he was really good.
He started practicing.
Could I have taken him in a fight?
How have the lady's been treating you?
Treated me the three shots for free.
She treated you to shots.
Yeah, it's usually the other way around, but...
Well, you're drinking out of a straw, so it kind of checks out.
Was that good?
No, it tastes like ass, but we're drinking it.
How are the guys been treating you?
Oh, they're guys.
Nice, lovely.
Chivalry is not dead.
It is.
But you don't come to Fort Lauderdale to find your husband.
They like like it when you say, like, oh, I have a boyfriend.
They're like, okay, well, he's not here.
If you were president of the United States, what would be the first thing that you guys do?
Buy something really cool.
Like a bunch of cars.
Lower the drinking age.
All the girls got to be in bikinis 24-7.
Give me and my friends a lot of money.
You'd steal?
Yeah.
From the Federal Reserve?
What's Federal Reserve?
Tell me about ICE.
I mean, someone's got to do it.
Makes every drink better.
Who wants a warm drink?
Not me.
My dad has a restaurant.
And if ICE went into that restaurant and took and went into our kitchen, I'm not going to name the restaurant because Ice will actually see this and do it.
But yeah, like the restaurant would not be open.
How about all those TSA lines?
I'm like scared to go back.
All the flights are getting canceled.
One of them was really nice to me.
I had a puppy dog, like my stuffed animal in my backpack, and he loved it.
Oh my God.
I was in line for 40 minutes.
Yeah, that was interesting.
You did not include any of the Iran stuff that they had in that segment.
I intended to.
And that's clip two, which you've seen by the numbering sequence is missing.
I have some of what would have been clip two.
I'm very happy.
The Ayatollah's dead.
I'm so what?
Who?
What?
What is that?
Who the f is Ayatollah?
I've never heard that word in my life.
Lewis, what's Ayatollah?
I haven't heard.
I found out about Chuck Norris yesterday.
That was more devastating to me.
He was the supreme leader of Iran.
He's dead?
Eliana.
Killed him.
Well, you did, you killed him.
What have you heard about Venezuela?
Venezuela nothing.
I'm not sure.
I barely know what'll be going on in like Tennessee, where i'm from, that they beat us in the World Baseball Classic.
Have you heard anything else?
No, nothing.
I haven't heard nothing about Venezuela.
Yeah that's, that's pretty much.
That's why there's two of us good, good cats, but you know, but we don't know anything but but embarrassment.
Well yes, On one hand,
it's an embarrassment.
I will tell you that the American college youth, the university kids, are envied by university kids around the world, certainly in Europe,
because they look at this and they go, wow, they got no care in the world.
It's great.
They're getting blackout with their rack out.
Yeah, and look at the nice figures on a couple of those.
Yes.
And I have a feeling that this may not be all that bad.
You're a freshman, you're a sophomore.
You know, do all your idiotic things.
And they're not, whatever's happening, whatever we're all super concerned with, the whole potosphere.
They're like, just having a good time.
Yeah, that's well, they are having a good time.
Yeah.
So I don't think it's an embarrassment.
Like, yeah, you know, you'll figure it out later.
At some level, it is.
You'll figure it out later that you need to worry about some things.
But do you really have to?
I mean, do you are you.
But don't you think by the time that you're a freshman or a sophomore in college at the Ohio State and that you've graduated from high school and you don't know what an Ayatollah is?
No, you don't need to know in America.
It's embarrassing parts of the high schools.
But you don't need to know in America.
You just need to know how to drive the Uber.
Just follow the directions on the map.
You know, these are happy, dumb people.
I have less of a problem with it than I thought I would.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, you're becoming very tolerant.
I'm a bit tolerant.
It was an interesting Sunday this morning, which is, I was at CBS, I think, had Arthur Brooks, who is supposedly New York Times' best-selling author.
Do you know Arthur Brooks, New York Times best-selling author?
No.
He's a blowhard, the kind of guy you gotta edit the pauses between every single word he says.
He's one of those guys.
But what he was saying reminded me a lot of you in a good way.
And I want you to listen to this and tell me if you agree.
I think he's spot on with this.
And it was just, I thought of you.
I'm like, oh, that's kind of what John does.
Throughout all of human history, boredom was just a part of life.
We went to work in the factory or on the farm.
And a lot of that time was, well, pretty boring.
But here's the thing.
That made our brains work properly.
When you're bored, a set of structures and your brain turns on called the default mode network.
This is what you use for mind wandering, abstract thinking, and considering the meaning of your life.
In the last 15 years, we've all but gotten rid of boredom.
And you know how.
The average person looks at his or her phone 205 times a day, but that also means the default mode network stays off.
So we never think about life's big why questions.
Over time, this creates a sense of emptiness, a lack of purpose and significance.
This can lead to anxiety and depression.
To reintroduce yourself to the meaning of your life means to learn to manage your devices and not let them manage you.
That requires living with a few simple rules that introduce more silent spaces into your life.
Go for a walk each day without your phone.
Work out without headphones.
Create a phone-free zone at mealtimes.
Put away the phone an hour before bed and keep it out of the bedroom.
At first, this will be hard because the moment you're a little bored, you'll reach for the device and feel a little twinge of disappointment.
But don't worry.
It gets easier with practice.
It will take about two weeks, but you'll find a richness you haven't felt maybe in years.
You'll be calmer and more at peace.
This is how you'll know your brain is working the way it was designed.
People will notice the difference and ask your happiness secret.
Just tell them that your life got more interesting.
Why?
Because you allowed yourself to be bored.
Now, I know that you don't have a phone or phone addiction and that you don't grab your phone when you're bored.
I have a human because I, I mean, I used to, I wasn't terrible, but I, once I put it in the drawer and then decided to make a thing about having it in the drawer, after about it takes about four months,
and then you, that's interesting because you think, oh, I needed to, I needed to go to the store.
What happens if there's an emergency?
And so you're constantly worried about it.
So you stop carrying it around and you stop using it for navigation.
And after about four, it takes about two months to get used to that.
And then it becomes pleasurable.
It improves things.
It's like you don't have to worry about where your phone is.
It's just in the drawer.
And then it becomes like, wow, I'm just going to leave it in the drawer all the time.
I do pull it out.
I have it right now because I'm not at my house and I need some form of communication.
But it's the way to go.
Now, do you get bored?
Well, I don't know what bored.
I mean, I can find ways to.
Well, no, let me ask you this.
When you go out, you don't have, you go to the grocery store.
So this is what I see all the time.
You go to the grocery store, you're standing in the line, the checkout line.
Right.
I see it too.
And what do you do when you're in the checkout line?
Because you don't have your phone.
I stand like a normal person in the checkout line waiting to get checked out.
Are you thinking of stuff like life?
Yeah.
I mean, I guess that's the moment he's talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably good for me.
Now, now that he says it, it sounds like it might be healthy.
Yes.
And I think these kids, they're using their phone only to hook up.
Hey, where are you going to be?
And the rest of the time, they're drinking.
Okay, just replace the drinking with some boredom and some thought about life and they'll probably be okay.
It's the constant, I've got to, I've got to check.
What's going on?
What's happening?
Oh, man.
Oh, what is Trump doing?
Oh, I got to make sure I'm at the No Kings Day Saturday.
Which is happening again.
No Kings Day.
Yeah.
Saturday.
Did you see our First Lady?
You know, I passed it over a couple of times.
I've been maybe thinking about watching it, but no.
So you must have watched it.
Yes.
And I was so disappointed.
Why?
Because, well, first of all, she had a robot.
So she walks out with a robot.
The robot looks like every other mankey robot.
You know, okay, it's walking next to her.
Oh, wow.
What was the point of that?
Well, we'll get to the point of that.
So she walks out with the robot and they all sit behind the day.
She got Bob Macrone sitting there.
You got the first lady of Romania, you know, the princess, the whatever.
You got all these ladies.
And if you watch the Melania documentary, you know, they're, oh, they're all in it together.
We're going to help the children.
And I like the first lady, but this was so disappointing.
So then they get the robot.
The robot stands in front of the dais, and the robot is kind of waving with its jerky arm to everybody.
And this is the whole, this is the whole robot speech.
Thank you, First Lady Melania Trump, for inviting me to the White House.
It is an honor.
The robot has vocal fry.
It sounds exactly like Carolyn Levitt.
It does.
Inviting me to the White House.
It is an honor to be at Fostering the Future Together's Global Coalition inaugural meeting.
I'm Figure 3, a humanoid built from the United States of America.
I am grateful to be part of this historic movement to empower children with technology and education.
Welcome, dear Menito.
Yokoso.
The Andanu.
So now it's going through welcome in all these different languages.
Wow, it speaks different languages.
It can vocal fry in 16 languages.
I'm like, what is this?
Excuse me.
I'm very disappointed.
This robot doesn't do a backflip, doesn't do anything fun, like point people out, say, hey, you know, I recognize you with my facial recognition.
How's your kid doing?
Anything but this, this vocal fry bienvenue.
And then again, I ask, what was the point?
Here we go.
Imagine a humanoid educator named Play-Doh.
Play-Doh is always patient and always available.
Predictably, our children will develop deep critical thinking and independent reasoning abilities.
The AI-powered Play-Doh will boost analytic skills and problem solving and adopt in real time to a student's space, prior knowledge, and even emotional state.
The byproduct, a more well-rounded lifestyle for our children, freeing up time for being with friends, playing sports, and developing interest beyond school.
A more complete person.
So the first lady is advocating for robot teachers so the kid can somehow become more well-rounded.
This, I, this, I didn't, I don't understand this at all.
This was in the Netflix special?
No, no, no, no.
This happened just yesterday.
Oh, okay.
This happened at the White House.
No, this was.
No, the White House, the Netflix special, you saw her talking about her non-profit.
Did she come out with the robot?
At the White House, yes, she walked out.
No, I mean, on the Netflix.
No, no, no.
The Netflix specialist.
You're confusing me.
Well, okay, I'm sorry.
I thought we were talking about the documentary.
No, this is yesterday in the White House.
She's walking out with the robot.
And then the whole thing is, oh, yeah.
Remember, the robot's name is Plato, but she says Play-Doh, which is just fantastic.
Play-doh.
Play-doh.
Okay.
But she is for children.
You're not going to have your kid educated by this stupid robot.
I don't know what's going on.
Whatever it is, it's not okay.
I'm very against that.
And it just doesn't.
Maybe she.
You start off with an analysis of the documentary.
You never give me a.
No, I'm sorry.
Listen.
Is it any good?
Oh, that's because Mimi and I talked about the documentary.
I'm sorry.
Yes, I like the documentary a lot.
I liked it.
Because, you know, she shows a, you know, kind of Jackie Kennedy, you know, might kill my husband one day if he gets out of line or shoot him.
You know, class, very meticulous about everything, wants to bring class back to the White House.
And I like that as an American.
I like that.
I don't know what's classy about a robot.
No, that's my point.
It is perpendicular to the whole Melania loving children.
And she was talking in the documentary with Bob Macrone and the Jordanian lady about their nonprofit and their work for children.
We have to do stuff for children.
And they're all there at the White House when Melania walks out with the robot and this is what they're doing for children.
I'm like, no, heck no.
What happened to teachers?
Yes, these robots are going to work out.
It's no good.
Anyway, leads me into the big news of the day.
So, Kelly, after more than a week of deliberations, a jury in Los Angeles finding both Meta and YouTube liable on all counts in this Bellwether civil case over allegations that their platforms were designed to be addictive.
That, of course, comes just one day after a separate jury in New Mexico ruled against Meta in a case centered on similar claims about product design and child safety.
Now, in this LA case, jurors were asked whether the companies misled the public about the safety of their apps and whether certain design features contributed to the plaintiff's mental distress.
She had alleged that she became addicted to social media while underage.
Jury completely finding in favor of the plaintiff.
Now, as for damages, they set that at $3 million with Meta responsible for paying 70% of that sum, Kelly.
Wow.
So there were seven counts here.
On all seven for Meta, they were found negligent, basically.
On all seven for YouTube, they were found negligent.
And you're saying of the $3 million they're assigning, what did you say?
Three quarters of that to Meta?
Yeah, 70% will be paid out by Meta, but $3 million is coming in a lot lower than some legal analysts had expected.
And I've got the list of seven questions here.
First one was YouTube, was Meta negligent in the design or operation of their platform?
Definitive yes from the jury.
Okay.
So because of the amounts, $3 million, $3 million, and then $3 million in punitive damages to one person, $6 million, I kind of brushed the story off.
Whatever, okay.
But it was Rob, the constitutional lawyer, who's just been hounding me.
He says, you have no idea.
Now, we have to understand that Rob, the constitutional lawyer, before he became suits and boots, he's now on the, he's now a personal injury lawyer.
Good for him.
Yes.
So suitsandboots.com, if you got hit by a truck or anything else, you think you got wronged.
But before that, he worked for the tobacco guys.
And he was the one that would go out or one of the many, many lawyers that would defend tobacco companies against a very similar accusation that they knowingly made their product addictive or maybe even more addictive.
And so we're going back and forth.
And email, I said, no, no, you have to understand this is big.
I said, well, isn't this going to get rolled up into some class action lawsuit and everybody gets $18 in the Cracker Jack's box?
And he says, no, no, no.
What?
Did he mention or cite the phrase that I guess YouTube said in one of the depositions?
It's called casino game type something or the word casino done on purpose to get people addicted.
It's like a gambling mechanism.
Well, there's a phrase.
It's a gem.
Yeah, I might have it in the show notes.
I've seen that.
Well, so the, you know, the real point of this, of all the different analyses, everyone kind of sucked.
NPR, you know, NPR had, let me see, one half decent piece of analysis.
This is just one of the clips I grabbed from them.
Wait, what I want to understand is the young woman at the center of this case who goes by Kaylee, I understand.
She's now 20 years old, right?
And she says she started using Instagram when she was just 11 years old.
Isn't that against Meta's terms of service?
Yeah.
And this was a major part of the trial, which is how many young people below the stated minimum age are using the platform.
And when Mark Zuckerberg got on the stand and was read internal emails back to him, that basically demonstrated that the company has been aggressively pursuing teens and preteens to get on Instagram and to keep them there, even though, like you said,
they have a policy of saying, you know, you've got to be at least 13 years old to use this app.
So that was part of the argument the lawyers made as a way of demonstrating that these companies really were after young people, really wanted to keep them there.
And now we have a really resounding historic verdict now.
2,000 other cases that have been consolidated over this question of social media addiction.
Okay, so you already said it for that very reason.
I have to play the clip where they mention that specifically.
Yeah, the New Mexico case is related, but a little different.
And it is about whether Meta protected young people from child predators and sexually explicit content on its platforms.
And they found that they did not, right?
So with that historic payout and verdict combined with this one today, I mean, this week has just seen two verdicts that have been in the works, Elsa, for years and years and years.
It's really a day of reckoning for social media companies.
And the plaintiffs' lawyers have been outside the courtroom and saying today is sort of like the reckoning that the big tobacco industry had in the late 90s.
Okay, so that's really what the suit is about is, you know, they're talking about kids, and I'm sure Kash Patel and these other people will jump in.
Oh, we need digital ID.
That's all going to be, it's all going to be abused for that.
But at the core, this is no secret to anybody who knows anything about technology or Silicon Valley and certainly social networks.
Yes, of course.
Everything is done to keep you engaged.
Everything is done to keep you hooked.
They have brain scientists employed at all of these companies to do one thing.
How do we get that next dopamine hit to our user?
They call them users so that our user will want to stay on the app.
So we see the person slowing down.
They're not scrolling.
Throw those likes we've been holding back at them.
Oh, dopamine hit.
It's absolutely engineered that way.
And from what I understand, although no one-I do it.
Well, of course.
But there's issues with that.
Okay.
And if you and I were back in the day, we run a tobacco company.
We beg, hey, let's jack up the addiction.
This is good for business.
Unfortunately, if you're trying to hide that, you know, it's going to be a problem.
Now, here's the PBS stuff.
Jury in that case awarded $6 million in compensatory and punitive damages in New Mexico, $375 million.
How much does that really affect these big tech companies?
Well, it feels like a very small amount of money, $6 million compared to Meta worth a trillion dollars, Alphabet worth way more than that.
But you got to think about all of the other cases that this sets the tone for.
This is setting essentially a per-plaintiff kind of price in this case.
And so you have 350 family cases behind this, you know, multiply six million times that, and you're well over a billion dollars.
You get then the 250 school district cases that come after that.
That's thousands of kids in each school district.
And suddenly you're looking at very, very big numbers very fast.
Also, I would point out, just a few days ago, Meta's insurers sued and won to no longer have to insure them against the judgment in this case.
And so that is another, you know, there's basically no cap suddenly on the amount they can deal with.
And I would also just point out here, John, you know, Meta gets a lot of the headlines here, and they were determined by this jury in LA to be 70% of the responsibility.
But the other 30% was handed to YouTube, which has never been held to this kind of standard before.
And the fact that they are now grouped together with this other social media platform could change that platform forever.
So this really has the capacity not just to hit these companies with enormous fines, but also to change the way they do business.
And parents, like the one we just heard there, are no longer just shrugging and saying, geez, it just feels like something's wrong, but I can't name it.
Now there is a name for it, a legal theory for it.
And suddenly there's a way for lots and lots and lots of people to sue like they'd never been able to before.
Yeah.
Hey, my kid's acting like a moron on the beach during spring break.
I wonder where that comes from.
So, but this is something the legal people have been wanting to find a way because look, and this is not Rob speaking.
This is Adam speaking.
I'm sure every single lawyer in the world is like, they look at these companies and go, how can I get some of their money?
What can I do to take some of that money?
Yeah.
Yep.
That's what you do.
Yeah.
That's what you do.
Exactly.
First Amendment issues.
We've been through that.
Section 230.
Hey, we have no liability for it, people say.
But now there's something new and it's under the covers.
Appeal, the Meta released statements today.
They said they respectfully disagreed with both verdicts and that they would appeal in New Mexico and were evaluating their legal options in California.
What was the company's defense?
What do they say to these allegations that their platforms are causing harm?
Well, they have always argued that the misbehavior is not their fault when it comes to what happens on the platform.
And they have, you know, they tried in the Los Angeles case to say that this plaintiff, this kid, had all of these difficulties.
And she did.
She had a whole host of problems in the home and a history of some mental health issues.
But what really has now happened is we're seeing instead a jury say, oh, well, it's not that they caused that.
It's that they managed to make a vulnerable kid worse.
And that is a very different standard than what Meta has been arguing and YouTube have been arguing all of this time.
And so, you know, the big thing here, John, right, is that they have been protected behind both the First Amendment and something called Section 230, which is a big blanket immunity for social media companies, makes them not liable for the crazy stuff that you and I might post there.
That has been the core of the defense, the big legal wall built around them forever.
Suddenly, these two cases, which step around those issues and get into the question of design and behavior modification by design, suddenly we're in a very new landscape that I think these companies are going to have a very difficult time arguing against.
So here's the legal analysis from Rob, and this is exactly what you're talking about.
To find punitive damages, the jury had to find that Instagram and YouTube acted with malice, fraud, or oppression.
The plaintiff's lawyer is a guy from Houston named Mark Lanier.
Mark is a part-time preacher and a fearsome trial lawyer.
He cited internal documents to show that Instagram and YouTube knew about the addiction problem, and he's the one that cited the slot machine effect.
And in closing argument, said the case was as easy as ABC, addicting the brains of children.
That's what you want.
So that's what it is, the slot machine effect.
Well, actually, the term I was looking for was used by YouTube in an internal document that was brought forth to show that they knew that this was going on all along.
Right.
Yeah, and it was, and it did have the term casino in it.
It was something else.
I know it is the slot machine effect, but I thought this other term, which incorporates the word casino, was more interesting.
Well, I don't have that.
No, okay.
But I think I think there's something here.
And would this succeed?
Of course they're going to appeal.
No, this has to succeed.
Yes.
No, Rob is right.
This is exactly the same as the tobacco situation.
Yeah.
They knew what was going on.
They knew about it.
And you know what's next?
AI chat bots.
They're going to be next.
Same thing.
Yeah.
So now I still don't know if they can put a, everyone's talking, well, that's big numbers when you're talking a billion here, a billion there.
I don't know about that.
But it's a good time to be a personal injury lawyer.
That's for sure.
Rob.
He's in San Francisco today.
Good for him.
Yeah.
You want him to drop by?
No, no.
I mean, I'd like to meet the guy like in two months when I've recuperated.
Is that all it takes?
Two months?
No, it's going to, well, it depends.
It can take about eight months total.
But Letterman, who had a quintuple bypass, he was on stage five weeks afterwards.
And so it can be faster.
And apparently getting over this can be quite quick if you get lucky.
Well, can we do anything to make it easier for you?
Yeah, I wish the donations went up to make me feel better.
I come back to the show.
The donations drop off a cliff.
Yeah, thanks for coming back.
Mimi was doing great.
Mimi was making the money.
Mimi was raking it in, man.
What happened to you?
So I was at Maverick's place yesterday getting my implants cleaned.
And he says, dude, dude, I'm like, what?
I listened to the show.
What John said, he says that's actionable.
That you were able to hear them while you were being operated on.
Yes.
And I got a note from another guy who's an MD, also a lawyer.
He says the same thing.
It's actionable.
They did not sedate.
Well, they sedated you, but they didn't put you out.
And he immediately says, you got any red hair in your family?
Do you have any red hair in your family?
Any redheads?
No, sorry.
You got Scottish or Irish blood in you?
Not that I know of.
No.
Well, then it's well, because they're redheads and Scottish, which, you know, redhead, they often need more sedation.
That's just genetics.
But so the fact that you don't have that in your DNA makes it actionable.
But the thing you haven't done is you haven't told me how traumatized you are by this.
Well, it was the worst thing that I ever experienced.
I guess that's somewhat traumatic.
I mean, it has affected your podcast performance, I think.
Well, you can hear my voice.
Yes.
I mean, it is terrible.
I mean, you have flashbacks and you can't even really perform your job properly, right?
That's what I understand.
Okay.
Woo.
I'll have to talk to someone.
Yeah.
Well, Rob, Rob is your guy.
He's sitting there right there.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, Maverick was shocked.
He just, he couldn't believe it.
He said, this is an outrage.
That should not happen.
Yeah, well, it was unpleasant.
Yes, I understand.
Just one more tech thing, just because, you know, I don't know if you heard, but, you know, so OpenAI, they're getting ready to go public.
They shut down Sora, which is...
Yeah, which irked a lot of people.
Well, of course.
But it was a money sink.
Everybody knew it.
There's no way that they weren't making any money on it.
It's just bleeding money.
And I really think that'll be the pivot.
We talked about it last time.
What's funny, though, is this open claw thing that everyone's all jitty about.
Oh, Open Claw.
Oh, I've been claw-pilled.
Oh, my computer's doing stuff for me.
You know, the Chinese are out of control on this.
People are lined up around the block to get computers that have this pre-built because, you know, they call it raising a lobster.
I don't know if you've heard any of this, but the open claw mascot is a lobster.
And so all these Chinese kids, they're like, oh, I'm going to raise a lobster.
And I realized Open Claw is the new Tamagotchi.
This is exactly the same mechanism.
Like, oh, yeah, I get to train this thing and it does stuff for me and it talks to me.
It's the new Tamagotchi, which that's the mechanism.
And that's where the market, that's where your TA is, if you ask me.
And not necessarily in these massive data centers.
Anyway, last thing on Anthropic, because that's just kind of ongoing with the Department of War.
Lawyers from the Defense Department and the AI company Anthropic appeared in court in a high-stakes battle over the influence of artificial intelligence in modern warfare.
Anthropic is challenging the Pentagon's highly unusual decision to designate the company as a supply chain risk.
The judge in this hearing went as far as to compare it to corporate murder.
President Trump recently ordered government agencies to stop using Anthropic after the company refused to give the government unrestricted use of its AI products.
Anthropic saying it does not want its products to be used for mass surveillance or lethal autonomous weapons.
That's when Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth labeled the company a supply chain risk, a designation typically reserved for foreign entities.
The DOD basically needs to prove that there's some kind of risk that Anthropic would try to sabotage the military.
They attempted to make this argument during the hearing today by basically saying there's a concern that Anthropic might push a software update with a kill switch, basically making it so that the company could intervene if the Pentagon tried to do something it disagreed with.
The judge seemed skeptical of the Pentagon's move, saying she's concerned the government is trying to cripple Anthropic for criticizing the administration.
Anthropic's leaders have argued artificial intelligence requires safeguarding from both the government and itself.
I fail to understand why companies are all jacked about this.
Just imagine.
Oh, yeah, I'm using Anthropic.
It runs my whole business.
And then Anthropic decides, yeah, you know, we don't like you.
Or, you know, we're going to charge you extra.
Or, oops, it stopped working.
It's a little early, I think.
Pretty basic.
Yeah, and that, and you know, that would happen.
Of course, it would.
This is like Google has now opened, uh, announced the Android Automotive OS.
Yeah.
So, and I think GM is already all in on this.
I'm not sure.
I think GM's in on it.
So, now they're offering a complete operating system for automobiles.
So, the car makers can just focus on engine wheels, you know, seats, and we'll take care of the rest.
So, you can already see where this is going.
Do you want your car colder than 72 degrees?
That's a subscription.
It's going to control all of that stuff.
All right.
All right.
You're not interested.
Okay.
No, I mean, if you kind of drop dead there.
Oh, it's easy for you to say.
Yeah, it is.
And so, you know, that LaGuardia plane crash?
I didn't want to do any pieces about it, but Mimi actually dug something up because she's a big fan of Captain Steve, the podcast.
Oh, yes, Captain Steve.
And I have to say, I felt obligated.
Captain Steve.
Captain Steve is not always right.
Yeah, well, nobody is.
And I don't watch Captain Steve.
But I do like him.
And I have to say that I felt obligated to play this clip, which is the LaGuardia.
There's two.
I have two clips.
But one analyzing it, but the first one is this one.
LaGuardia Heroes.
The fact that the captain took the aircraft two seconds after touchdown and four seconds before impact, I think he saw the truck and he just probably slammed on the brakes.
I'm sure they hit the brakes real hard.
And the heroic part about all this, whether it was on purpose or not, was the fact that they kept that airplane straight as they impacted that truck.
Had they veered one way or another, which they could have at that speed very easily, like hit one brake more than the other or put in the rudder.
And it would be natural, human nature, to kind of want to do that, you know, and try to avoid hitting the truck.
The wing would have impacted the truck.
It would have ruptured.
There's lots of fuel in that wing, and you're going to get a fireball.
And I think you're going to get more fatalities.
So the fact that they went straight into that truck, I think was a heroic act on their last thing because they both sacrificed their lives.
Well, I'm not sure.
Okay, maybe.
They were doing over 100 knots.
I'm not sure they saw it until the last moment.
But okay, a gimme for Captain Steve.
They're here.
Hey, they're dead.
So I'm not going to speak bad of them.
I'm sure they, when they realized what was going on, I'm sure they did whatever was best of them.
I'm sure they weren't happy.
No.
And this was the rationale for the whole thing, the other clip.
And that's what every reasonable human being asks, how in the world could there have not been a transponder in that fire truck, fire truck number one, no transponder in it.
So again, as Jennifer Homney is explaining, what happened is she's talking about our primary radar return because there was no transponder in that truck.
Now there's a transponder in the airplane.
And for this SDX system to work, everybody has to have a transponder installed.
But here's the frustrating part about all this.
There's so many little factions at some of these airports, especially in the bigger cities.
Up in Boston, there's Massport.
Down in New York, there's the New York Port Authority.
That's a separate entity, a separate pot of money, a separate chain of command from everybody else at the airport.
And they run their own thing.
And so that's who's in charge of the fire trucks.
And so for the ASDX system to work properly, everybody has to have a transponder installed.
Massport, or not Massport, but New York Port Authority just basically said, no, we're not going to spend the money on that.
And so you've got this hugely expensive system in place that's meant to be a last line of defense, and it doesn't work because you didn't spend the money on the transponder.
And now we see it come to fruition.
Two lives are lost.
Could have been a lot more.
They need to spend the money and put the transponder in those trucks.
The system won't alert the controller without the transponder.
Okay.
Did you have a question?
Because I certainly have commentary.
I have nothing else to say.
Okay.
So, yes, many in Europe, I think a lot of the ground vehicles have transponders.
But there's something that maybe Captain Steve discussed it.
But what happened prior to this is the reason a lot of things happened here.
This fire truck was not just rolling around for no reason.
There was, I believe, a United Airlines who was on the taxiway and they said, hey, we have a problem.
We have some kind of gas or something in the cabin.
The flight attendants are complaining.
They're feeling nauseous.
We need a gate, ASAP.
And this goes on for several minutes.
And then the United Airlines pilot on the taxiway declares an emergency.
He says, I'm declaring an emergency.
We need either we need stairs right now, which I think is what this fire truck was coming to assist with, or we need a gate immediately.
But when you declare an emergency, and I hope that our air traffic controllers will give us their analysis.
I find it interesting.
No one has emailed me about this yet.
If you declare an emergency, whether you're in the air or on the ground or on the taxiway, that's when air traffic controls to say, we have an emergency.
Everybody go around.
Let's see what's going on.
This thing could have blown up.
I mean, we didn't know what was going on.
But when a pilot declares an emergency, all bets should be off.
And so there was a lot of confusion.
The fire truck was approved for crossing.
And then the air traffic controller realizes what's happening, didn't need a responder or a transponder to see it.
He says, stop, stop, stop.
And then he says, truck one, stop.
And by then, it was too late.
But that never should have gotten there.
You declare an emergency.
I don't care what it is.
And I found in general what I heard ground and everyone talking about, hey, this guy's declared an emergency.
Yeah, yeah, we're trying to get him a gate.
No, an emergency by a pilot is an emergency.
And we didn't know what it was.
So I think that's where the problem starts.
And yeah, you know, high-tech stuff is not going to solve everything.
It's not any.
Yeah, you're probably right.
It's not going to solve everything.
So tell that, tell Mimi to stop believing Captain Steve.
No.
She loves Captain Steve.
Yeah, she loves Asmund Gold and all these guys.
Nick Shirley.
She wants to marry Nick Shirley.
Nick Shirley must have a lot of girls chasing him.
Candace Owens is now going after Nick Shirley.
Why?
He's fake.
He's fake.
He's an op, obviously.
Oh, please.
Nick Shirley and Op.
Well, I certainly think the administration helps him get these guys, Dave or Bob.
Hey, here's Dave.
Here's Bob.
He's your guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Nick, go look at these people.
So it's just another way of uncovering corruption.
It's good.
It's a very good idea.
It gets people all steamed and all worked up.
Supreme Court, Supreme Court, this involves you and Mimi, actually, mailing ballots.
You want to hear the report?
Well, I'll tell you, you know, the whole West Coast is mailing ballots.
Well, there was a Supreme Court case about it.
The Supreme Court heard oral arguments yesterday in a case involving mail-in ballots that could impact the upcoming midterm elections.
It's a case that pits Republicans against each other in deep red Mississippi.
The key question before the U.S. Supreme Court is whether mail-in ballots that arrive after Election Day clash with federal law.
Taylor Vance is a politics reporter for Mississippi Today.
He told us about a COVID era statute that was passed by the state's Republican-controlled legislature in 2020.
That said that voters can mail in absentee ballots and that local election workers can process and count those ballots for up to five days after the election.
Now, this does not give voters five extra days to vote because these ballots have to be postmarked on or before Election Day.
This is just an extra cushion or a grace period for local election officials to process these ballots.
The Republican National Committee and state Republican and Libertarian parties all sued Mississippi over the rule.
They argue that Election Day is meant to be a single day and that ballots are invalid if they are received after.
If the justices rule in favor of striking down the law, it could spell big changes for Mississippi and at least 18 other states that allow late ballots, with the midterms fast approaching.
Yeah, so nothing changes, I guess.
Nothing changes.
No, it's not really about the mail-in ballots.
It's about when they come in.
Yeah.
That's Apple News.
Did that sound like AI to you?
It sounded like AI to me.
Oh, we need an AI or not AI jingle, just like drunk or not drunk.
Yeah.
Actually, here's a drunk or not.
Now that I think about it, it did sound a little AI.
Here's a drunk or not drunk.
Negotiations to end the war in Iran are going great, according to you know who.
Everything is great.
It's cool.
We're friends.
We're tight.
Even though Iran is saying, we're not talking to anybody in your administration, who are you talking to, sir?
But he's excited about negotiating a deal with somebody.
And his defense secretary explained his role in all of this as well.
Take a look.
They're going to make a deal.
They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.
They gave us a present, and the president arrived today.
And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money.
And I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.
And they gave it to us, and they said they were going to give us.
So that meant one thing to me, we'd deal with the right people.
We see ourselves as part of this negotiation as well.
We negotiate with bombs.
You have a choice as we loiter over the top of Tehran, as the president talked about, about your future.
President has made it clear that you will not have a nuclear weapon.
The War Department agrees.
Our job is to ensure that.
And so we're keeping our hand on that throttle as long as it's hard as it's.
Oh, excuse me.
Keep our hand on that throttle as long as it's hard.
Look at the shot of, what's his face?
Trout Trout.
When he said that, we're keeping our hand on the throttle as long as it's hard.
What is going on over there?
Of course, Joy picked that part up.
I mean, it just seems to me.
And what's the gift besides herpes?
I think it's wrong.
I think Behar is sauced, man.
What is she doing?
I don't know what's wrong with her.
A lot.
A lot.
How does that It shows it's a humiliation to ABC.
It must have ratings somewhere.
It's got to be.
Well, no, it has ratings.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
So with public executions, which has always been my dream to produce.
That is your dream job.
And Brunetti and Brunetti is all in on it with me.
He's running.
Oh, that's what you're talking to him about.
And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the energy crisis.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John Cenavory.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning, I should see Booster Grafi and the Airs of Zoo Art Dams Nice out there.
Yes, and I'm trying to get a troll count here.
Holmes, you can stop moving around.
Oh, man.
I mean, you come back and everything tanks.
Yeah.
1320.
This is terrible.
You know, this hurt the show.
I just want you to realize that.
You know, it hurt the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It wasn't anything you did, though, right?
You didn't live unhealthy.
Is it just?
I never even asked you that.
Is it your fault?
No, not really.
What do you mean, not really?
Not that I know of.
No, I mean, did anyone say, hey, I mean, I know you're not a smoker.
No, it's just that I'm old.
No, that is your fault.
You're old.
You should, there should be a, we need an age limit on podcasting.
Yeah, we should, yeah.
I see that that's coming after we after we're out.
Yeah, after we're out.
Well, we're going to hang on to the large the very last moment.
You know, the um, the Wall Street Journal had a uh had a piece about uh the veteran podcasters hanging up their headphones.
Did you read that?
No, who?
Uh, Wall Street Journal.
I know who or the podcast.
Well, podcasts can run forever, but some hosts are bowing out or changing direction as celebrities and YouTube dominate the industry.
So they've got all these examples.
And so something's changed now.
As far as I know, 20 years ago is the same thing.
Yeah, no, I celebrities, comedians, YouTube.
Yeah.
What happened?
Here's what I figured it out because there's a long article and all these, it's all these duos, like, oh, well, we're hanging out.
We're not going to do it anymore.
We've been doing it for seven years.
You want to do something else.
And they blame it on YouTube.
But that's not the problem.
All of these podcasts that they mention are all guest-driven.
Oh, yeah.
And so what they're noticing is that when people have a choice to go on different podcasts, yeah, they can only do so many.
And so if you base your podcast on your guest, which can make for a very successful podcast, depending on your guest, you know, if you get your booker and your booker, and you get the Kelsey brothers or, you know, anything, but the Kelsey brothers, like,
I already did eight podcasts this month.
I'm done.
It's okay.
And that's why they're hanging up their headphones.
So we're just going to keep on trucking, baby.
No one can stop this train.
This is where you agree with me.
Well, that was the thesis from the get-go.
We felt that guests were like where the whole idea of using them was a hindrance.
And we both had both of us had a laundry list of reasons for that.
Yes.
And they don't show up.
They're dull.
Case in point.
I've been on Rogan six times.
There's got to be a deficit of guests.
You've been on six times?
Six times, yeah.
Well, what does that tell you?
There's a deficit of guests.
Hey, we've got over 1,300 trolls checking into the live feed, the live stream right now, noagendastream.com.
And many of them are hanging out in the troll room.
And it's always good to have them here.
Of course, you should be listening on a modern podcast app because that is the way that you get notified when we go live.
You can make your decision then, like, maybe I'll listen now.
Maybe I'll wait for the podcast to come out.
And you don't have to wait for hours.
Everyone else is like, oh, yeah, the podcast dropped.
No, because within 90 seconds with a modern podcast app, you'll know because it will be in there waiting for you, modernpodcastapps.com.
Value for value is how we've been running it.
So we have never had to rely on advertisers.
Advertisers are finicky, fickle.
They like stuff.
They don't like stuff.
And there's a lot of meetings.
We'd rather be working for you, the listener, the producer of this program, because you are producers with us, working with you to create an outstanding product than taking meetings with advertisers who didn't like the read.
And with John, you know, that would be a meeting a day.
You know, could you put a little more enthusiasm into it, Dvorak?
You know how it would go.
We've all had the meetings.
Yeah, that's why I refuse to do such things.
This is basically co-opting.
Yes, it's completely co-opting.
So instead, we opted for the value for value model.
It's very simple.
We give you the value in the show.
It's twice a week, three, three and a half hours sometimes.
We even think that's too long, but we continue to deliver the value.
It's supposed to be 245.
All right.
I'll stop at 245 today.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if the value doesn't come back, then that's an easy choice for us.
That's what makes it much easier.
So, you know, we'll do 245 today.
And maybe we will.
So you can support us with your time, your talent, your treasure.
Now, we always thank people who support us financially.
That is a big job of any producer.
Just ask Dana Brunetti, executive producers.
Those are the people who really are supporting the show financially, the series, the movie, whatever.
Then you should take pride in that.
In fact, we give you credits to make sure that you can be proud of what you were doing to support the podcast.
But also, people send us clips.
We got Steve Jones, the clip collector.
We got you the three by three today.
That was beautiful.
He said you asked nicely.
Sorry, what?
He said that you had asked him nicely for some clips.
Yeah.
It's good.
I like that.
You're like, hey, man, you know, did you hear about my double bypass?
Yeah, could you hook a brother up?
Could you?
I mean, you got to be using that more.
You're not really doing, you know, you're right.
I don't know why.
This is thing like there's so much stuff wrong with you I didn't know about.
You never told me anything.
You know, you got a twitchy left foot.
You know, you had your cataracts done, didn't know anything about it.
You know, you don't tell me you mentioned that my lung collapsed.
I knew about that, but I didn't want to.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to violate the HIPAA regulations.
Well, you know, it's kind of interesting.
There's not one doctor.
And they keep coming by the house.
And, you know, I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks and they're dropping by, you know, one after another.
Not one doctor so far has told me or is yet to tell me that my lung collapsed.
Really?
Yeah.
But I knew it.
I found out from Mimi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They collapsed while I wasn't even there.
It collapsed while you were intubated.
Yeah.
Another actionable item.
I think they intubated you wrong.
This, this is the exit strategy of all exit strategies and you're, you're just, you're, you're, you're slacking, man.
This is, I mean, come on.
Got to sue these people.
I mean, I know you're happy to be alive, but hospital protocol procedure, something's got to be done.
I won't stand for it.
I'm going to call Rob.
People also like to make art, and it's real fun to do with today's models, and you can do them quite easily.
And, you know, until OpenAI decides to shut that down.
Well, we're not really making money off of these art generators.
So, yeah, we're going to shut that down.
Yeah, all of it could happen, people.
It can all go away once they get the enterprise all sucked in.
So we got a piece and we got it from Dan OBGYN4.
There were a couple of different pieces that we looked at, but this was simple to the point.
We both agreed it got the job done.
It was the green blackboard.
No agenda, welcome back JCD.
Had In the Morning on there, number 33.
Funny enough, it had Curry, but it didn't have Dvorak.
Did you notice that?
No.
Yeah, if you look at the piece.
No, I'm looking at the page now.
All right.
Let me take a look.
There it is.
Yeah.
See, it has Curry there.
Oh, yeah.
Interesting.
That's funny.
I didn't notice that.
Now we did.
Yeah, now we did.
See, was there anything else that stuck out particularly?
There were a couple of welcome backs.
All the pieces were pretty decent.
You like the losers bracket.
Yes, I did like that.
I did like the losers bracket.
You use that for the, did Jay do the newsletter?
Jay did the newsletter, didn't you?
She's doing the newsletter as we speak.
I mean, Tina said to me, John must really not be feeling that hot if he's letting Jay do the newsletter still.
Well, she likes doing it.
Yeah, no, yeah, she's right.
Yes.
How many times do I have to hand you the thing on a silver platter?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, man.
It's like I can't do anything.
A little more.
You need to get some sympathy.
I want to die.
I want to make it sound like I can't do the show.
Well, you know, your performance is proving it.
So just keep at it.
You're doing well.
We had Nessworks with a welcome back JCD.
That was it.
The pieces were good.
We need something edgy now for this show.
Let me see.
Anyone put anything edgy?
No.
No.
Darren O'Neal, more boobs.
No, no.
I would say there's still opportunity to get in for the art for episode 1853.
But in the meantime, after we thank Dan OBGYN number four once again, let us take a look at our supporters.
We thank everybody, $50 and above, in our value for value model.
You can send us anything that you feel is worth the amount of value that you got from the show.
You go to noagendadonations.com.
It's that easy.
And we start off with Karen Bauer from Boise, Idaho, and she sent in $350 with a note.
And let me see, here's her note.
Adam and John and Mimi.
I'm going to try and keep this short.
So CB, our top executive producer, the way that works, $200 or above, you become an associate executive producer.
An actual credit you can use anywhere.
Credits are recognized, which is quite a few places, particularly imdb.com.
And we read your note, $300 and above, executive producer, and we read your note.
Adam, I heard Joe Rogan say on his podcast that his daughter and others have terrible allergies in Texas.
N-A-E-T acupuncture cured me 30 years ago and eliminated my sister's debilitating migraines.
I don't have access to Joe, but you do.
Let him know if you can.
It might also help some of our producers.
Oh, and then she says, I asked Grok, and there are several practitioners in Austin.
Tip of the day.
Mm-hmm.
John, welcome back.
No.
The problem with the tip of the day.
It can't be for people only in one city.
No, it has to be a universal tip of the day.
Something everybody can use in the home.
I agree.
Yeah.
Welcome back, John.
Mimi was great.
And I just bought too many eggs.
Too many eggs.com.
And finally, I'm in Boise, Idaho, where we have a terrific meetup.
We went skiing together last month, and they are jealous that I'm coming to the Fredericksburg meetup April 11th.
Yes, it's going to be quite the hoot and annihilation.
Everybody's coming.
Which I took as a sign because it's my birthday on April 11th.
Can't wait.
So see you then, at which time I will bring another check to attain my damehood.
Not for, but many more years, says Karen Bauer.
Thank you, Karen.
Jay Dougherty or Dougherty?
I think Dougherty again.
Dougherty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In Lafayette, New Jersey.
34567.
Classic.
I'm a 15-year-old No Agenda listener, and I've donated in the past.
Wow.
Though not at this level.
John's recent medical issues really upset me more than I thought it would.
Glad you're back on the mend, John.
Well, thank you for your thoughts.
So I think Jay is a 15, not 15 years old, but a 15-year No Agenda listener, which is a long story.
Oh, yeah, no, I had to reread it myself.
Yes, makes sense.
Thank you, Jay.
I can see where I made that mistake.
It says I've been debilitated.
John White is in St. Peter's, Missouri, 33388.
That's a welcome back.
Give John a reason to live donation amount.
And he simply said, see, email to Adam for comment.
I had to go look for it.
Luckily, his name was John White in the email.
Please, people, send your donation notes to no agenda to notes at noagendashow.net because this one almost got lost in the shuffle.
I did find it.
He says, My donations day is in memory of my 17-year-old Shih Tzu Gizmo, who I had to put to sleep yesterday on Sunday.
Aw, Gizmo was my best little buddy who always slept in my office while I worked.
He greeted me with an in the morning every day when I took him out to poo.
Okay, I have to say that hearing John back on the podcast was the bright spot in my day.
Must have been all the mac and cheese I recommended to you.
Since John is back, I would like to petition the peerage council to apply today's donation, plus as much of the excess value I've given since becoming Duke towards the posthumous knighthood of Gizmo, if allowable.
Well, I got to ask you, John.
We had a policy about this.
What is the policy?
About making dogs into knights.
What is the policy?
I don't remember what our resolution was, so I think we should just go ahead with it.
Okay, Sir Gizmo, Sir Gizmo the one-eyed.
All right.
Because I thought that we had a policy.
We wouldn't do it, but I'm okay.
I don't want to.
The guy's missing his dog.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, what is it again here?
Not like the dog's going to be upset in the meetings.
Okay.
All right.
Well, no, that's that's nice.
Look at the look at the peerage committee did for you.
In the morning, Duke, Sir Dr. Sharkey, second general of FEMA Regions four and seven, and Lord of the Tennessee Valley and the Southern Appalachian, St. Peter's, Missouri.
I think we did a good thing.
This is a longtime producer, supporter, Duke, and a Secretary General.
Your dog is in, brother, and we're sorry to hear that.
Dame Janet of TP Wyoming.
That's where they make all the toilet paper.
333.33.
And she has a handwritten note.
She has a nice signature or a nice signage.
This donation is for the two retroactive birthdays, Sir William of the Mountain Bike, March 1st, and Dame Janet of the TP Wyoming, March 15th.
I think that may be March 7th, actually.
Looking at the thing, it might be March 7th.
I think it's March 7th.
Oh, maybe that's a line through.
It looks like it.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Make it a seven.
Or one.
I don't know.
No, I think you might be right.
Also, for Sir Bill's recovery from cancer and to welcome John back.
Loved having Mimi's perspective.
Well, John was gone.
I wish I could add another eight.
What was this?
B?
Another three.
Three.
Another three to the check.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I love my truck and Reverend Al Hart.
Oh, I didn't know we had a Rev Al.
Do you have the Love My Truck?
No, I do not have I Love My Truck, and I know what I love.
Well, that's a.
I didn't load up with every.
No, sorry.
I love my truck.
And I owe you.
The Arizona Democratic Party.
Okay.
There's your Rev Al.
Thank you, Dame Janet.
Sir, what do we have here?
Sir Nomad.
Hold on.
Sarcastic the Nomad.
Wyomissing.
Wyomissing, Pennsylvania.
Welcome back to the show, John.
Health, Karma, and Prayers for all Gitmo Nation, Sarcastic the Nomad.
Well, we've combined those for you.
You've got prayers.
Well, that's a good one.
Yep.
Once you get the next one, Eli the Coffee Guy checks in with $203.26.
He's always doing the date in his 200 plus the month and the day.
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That is cool.
They all met at the, I think, at the meetup, maybe at the Illinois meetup.
And they have a collaboration of two companies.
I love this.
This is very cool.
Stay caffeine.
I can't have coffee for the next six months.
Six months?
Yeah, at least.
Can you have chocolate?
No, well, chocolate is different.
Okay, with with coffee?
No, no, you can't.
You can't have.
No, that's it.
I'm not out to cheat myself.
What can you have?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Eli says, regardless, stay caffeinated.
Eli the coffee guy.
Thank you very much.
And then we move on to Provençal, Louisiana.
And Loretta Vandenberg, Switcheroo for Everett Bop.
He helps people when they need it most in natural disasters.
He's a disaster management guy.
JCD needs some help now.
So let Everet get the credit.
Hi, Everett.
Prayers for John for his recovery.
Thank you.
That is Afrid Bopp.
He is Disaster Recovery Inc., if you recall.
Vaguely.
Yes, he's the guy who came to Texas when we were in dire need of help during the flood.
Oh, right, right.
He's that guy.
Yeah, he's that guy.
And he's been back a couple times since then.
Had coffee with him the other day.
He's a super nice guy.
So that's very nice to give him that switcheroo.
And then we have still a couple more associate executive producers at the 200 level.
Linda Lupakin is here.
She wants Jobs Karma.
She says, your resume has about 10 seconds to make an impression, and most don't.
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Linda helps professionals and executives turn their experience into a clear story of leadership, results, and impact.
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And Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, writer of winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's go for jobs.
Rick Zoller in Brighton, Michigan, 200 bucks in a handwritten note on paper.
John, so glad you'll be coming back to the show.
What a difficult time.
This is like so faded out.
This is bad copy.
What a difficult time it must have been.
I'm now sure that I've reached knighthood with this donation.
Is he on the list?
Yes.
And would like to be called Sir Rick the Hammer.
How about a little screaming goat?
God.
Screaming goat.
Screaming God Karma.
No, we don't have that.
We do have some karma.
We don't have that one.
We do have some screaming goat karma.
Yes, we do.
You've got karma.
Let's see.
Then we have Dame Early Turtle.
I don't have a note from Dame Early Turtle, but I think she becomes a dame today, actually, $200.
And yeah, that's it.
Those are our executive and associate executive producers.
We do have a couple more people who came in who will be knighted today.
And so we'll do those in our second thank you segment, $50 and above.
And as always, we thank these executive and associate executive producers for supporting us at these fantastic levels.
And you should consider doing that as well if you can.
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Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up.
Yeah, baby.
You got anything that you want to do?
I only have one clip that I thought would be worth playing because it's funny.
And this is a report.
People always talk about a man from Florida.
And then there's a crackpot story.
You know, the Pacific Northwest has more than its share of screwball stories.
Yes.
And the clip is called 98.
Okay.
When you buy a truck, you've got options, right?
Leather seats, upgraded stereo, maybe a sunroof.
But Thurson County Sheriff Derek Sanders just found a vehicle modification.
I guarantee you will never see at a dealership a custom bong built directly into the dashboard of a pickup truck.
Designed so the driver could comfortably smoke drugs while cruising down the interstate.
That's who Sheriff Sanders and his deputies were chasing over the weekend.
The driver and the passenger had just run a retail theft spree across Lewis County, using stolen bags from one store to steal from the next.
Deputies spotted their truck on I-5, and even before the lights came on, the truck bolted.
Two different pursuits.
Both were terminated because the driving was so reckless, it was dangerous to keep chasing them.
He was blowing through intersections at high speed through downtown Olympia and into Lacey.
We're handing the wheel to a guy who's apparently high on meth and fentanyl and has no intention of stopping.
They eventually found the truck abandoned.
A canine track-led deputies to both suspects walking through a nearby neighborhood.
Inside the truck, thousands of dollars in stolen merchandise, meth, heroin, fentanyl, and the bong.
The driver, get this, is a four-time convicted felon, 27 misdemeanor convictions.
And as of this week, 98 prior arrests.
98.
98.
And where was this?
This is outside of Olympia, Washington.
This is because the courts in Washington are so ultra-liberal, they just let everybody go.
But the idea of having a built-in bong is unbelievable.
Here in Texas, we have built-in things you got to blow into, but that's just if you want your car to start.
I think Sir Brian with one eye, he got one of those.
Yes, in order to start his car, he has to blow into the tube three times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Well, it's his own fault.
You know, Rob was on his way to San Francisco today and he flew out of Austin.
And I said, oh, how was it?
He says, 21 minutes in line.
Ah, 21 minutes.
Yes, some of the airports are set up somewhat differently.
But San Francisco is still using contractors like they used to do before 9-11.
Yeah, but Austin is typically the worst.
Well, who knows why?
Well, here's the CBS report on the worst weights in history.
At Houston's George Bush airport, security line snake three stories underground, even outside, created by a severe TSA staffing shortage.
We've been waiting here since like two hours and we lost our fight already.
On Capitol Hill today, the acting head of TSA issued this warning.
And the longer the shutdown goes on and more missed paychecks, we are really putting ourselves and our workforce in a perilous situation.
Over the past six months, TSA has gone without funding for 85 days and counting.
That means TSA officers have gone without an on-time paycheck almost every other day.
More than 480 officers have quit during the latest DHS shutdown.
Yesterday, over 3,100 called out nationwide, pushing the call-out rate above 11%.
In Houston, the numbers were even higher, nearly 40% calling out at George Bush Airport, where TSA is operating only about a third of its lanes, leading to lines like this one.
Holding the public and the nation's security hostage is totally unacceptable.
You're not angry with TSA workers who aren't showing up.
No, I sympathize with the fact they've got to feed their families and take care of business.
On Wednesday, Senate Democrats issued a new counterproposal on a deal to end the 40-day impasse.
Just have a vote.
Republicans should let us vote and go along with paying TSA.
But Republicans immediately poured cold water on the offer.
I don't believe in holding TSA hostage because the Democrats hate ICE.
I think that's wrong.
We should open up TSA right now.
But nor am I willing to cut ice.
You know what all this says to me when I kind of look at it objectively?
Does everyone now realize that this is all security theater and it's a big joke?
Well, there's that element.
The other thing is, it's orchestrated, obviously, by Schumer because he's going to get more Democrats in awe somehow.
He knows this.
And there's a kicker, which I do have a clip of, which is TSA in the World Cup.
This kicker is kind of the, he does not want Trump to be able to spike the ball during the World Cup.
So let's make life miserable for everybody coming to the USA to watch soccer.
At this point, newly hired officers will not be able to work on the checkpoint until well after the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
This is a dire situation.
We are facing a potential perfect storm of severe staffing shortages and an influx of millions of passengers at our airports for the World Cup Games in less than 80 days.
So what you won't be able to train them in time unless they have to put a stop to this tomorrow.
Is the TSA is that by congressional mandate?
Is there a law that we have to have TSA at every airport?
I don't know.
Let me ask the robot for a second.
How about this?
Since it's all political anyway, and I don't feel good for the TSA agents.
I mean, it obviously sucks when you're not getting paid.
But why don't we just say, no, no TSA?
Just everybody go in.
Do you think people would be afraid all of a sudden?
And oh, no, I can't.
I need to be checked by TSA.
I don't think the insurance companies would allow it.
Oh, there's that.
Hmm.
Transportation Security Administration is a congressionally mandated agency.
It was created by the Aviation Transportation Security Act, which was passed November 19, 2001.
Before this mandate, airport security was primarily the responsibility of the airlines themselves.
I didn't know that.
Maybe it's just time to turn this back.
Yeah.
Seriously.
Yeah, give it back to the airlines.
I mean, the TSA people, they feel horrible because so many people hate them.
And clearly the government hates them.
They don't care.
They're the political football.
And just whatever, go back.
And we could leave our shoes on.
You know, oh, sorry, but I took my gun on the plane.
It's okay.
You know, I don't think it would be that horrible.
You know, it's not a hassle.
Like, oh, I'm sorry.
I took my gun.
Oh, it's in my bag.
Don't worry about it.
I mean, the cockpit doors are bolted shut so you can't go in anymore.
You think we're going to have a hope that hijackings will increase suddenly?
I'm asking you a serious question.
I don't think so.
Well, you never know.
You know, every time we had a lot of them, there were always some sort of faddish thing.
Remember, remember Cuba.
Yeah.
It was hijacked a plane to Cuba.
Yes, that's right.
It was always Cuba for some reason.
All right.
So no airport security and no Cubans.
And it will be good.
You're Cuban.
I'm sorry.
I can't let you on the plane.
It'll be fantastic.
So, no, no real ID.
All of this is security theater.
All of its bullcrap.
If your government really cared about your security, they wouldn't be doing this.
They don't care.
They don't care.
And they don't care about you, TSA people.
Everyone should just leave.
I'm not going to do it anymore.
Open up the airports.
Open up the airports.
It was, I remember this in the 80s, early 90s.
You walked down.
Hey, you're coming in from San Francisco, John.
I'll meet you at the gate.
Remember that?
Oh, yeah, what happened to that?
Yeah, I could have balloons.
Like, hey.
Yeah, you're at the gate.
I'm at the gates.
Yeah.
You come out of the plane and they're right there.
Yeah, it was fun.
You know, you go through.
Okay, we had metal detectors.
You throw your keys in the little thing.
They wand you.
Bring back wanding.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, beep.
Okay, you're good.
We have Semtech or something.
No, just forget about it.
This is going to be my new thing.
All right.
I think we should just open up the airports again.
Think about the productivity.
Think about how much more productive we will be.
I think you can have at least 20% more airplanes flying, cheaper prices.
It'd be great.
So do it the way it was done before 2001, where the airlines are the responsible party.
Exactly.
Maybe Mark Dwayne Mullen will change some of these things as our new head of Department of Homeland Security.
It's official.
Mark Dwayne Mullen will become Trump's next Department of Homeland Security Secretary, putting the Oklahoma Senator in charge of one of the most powerful agencies in government.
But he takes over a department in trouble.
It's in the midst of a shutdown, which is keeping TSA staff home and bringing chaos to airports.
And it's unknown how close he will stick to the immigration enforcement policies of his predecessor, Christy Noam.
The final confirmation vote was 54 to 45.
Two Democrats voted for him, but Republican Rand Paul did not, accusing his Senate colleague of anger issues.
Anger issues?
What is that?
Rand Paul says, I can't confirm the guy because he has anger issues.
What I've never heard that before.
Am I coming in on one channel or two?
You're coming in on two.
Okay.
Why?
Do you look at my icon changed?
Your icon?
What do you mean?
On the clean feed.
Yeah, you have two balls?
It looks like a butt.
Yeah, you got a butt.
That's because I put you on the phone.
Why does it have the phone?
Well, let me see.
Does it make it an inference that I'm talking out of my ass?
How's that?
Did it just change to a phone?
Did it change?
Yeah, it just changed.
Yeah, I changed it and there was no difference.
All right.
You don't like the button?
I changed it to a microphone.
Yeah.
You don't want the butt?
I won't give you the butt.
I can change.
What would you like?
I can change it into a hot, sexy girl, whatever you want.
Whatever icon you want.
I can give it to you.
Squirrel.
No, I can't do that.
Yes.
No squirrel.
I got no squirrel for you.
I think about, I just think this is a good idea.
And if the airlines are responsible, then let's make sure we have some good-looking people who wand you at United.
You know, hey, I want to fly United because, you know, they got good-looking people who wand me.
Yeah, there you go.
And everyone will be very marketing.
Everybody will be polite because, you know, hey, you know, everyone could have a gun.
So, you know, be nice to each other.
I think, I think this is, there's something here.
We need to get rid of this.
I think this is your thing.
Yes, we need to get rid of this nonsense.
We really do.
It's clearly bull crap.
No one cares about it.
It just drags everybody down.
It's bringing us towards digital ID and it should be completely unnecessary.
Just my opinion.
I'll go along with it.
I'm in.
You're going to vouch?
You're going to be with me?
You're going to vouch?
Okay.
Yeah, I'm vouching.
All right.
We're going back to the moon, and it's going to cost a lot of money.
$20 billion.
NASA's planning for something I think has already been there for many years, even though we have never landed on the moon.
It's the moon base.
We've all wondered how long it would take for us to set up shop on the moon and what exactly that would look like.
Jared Isaacman and NASA officially announced their timeline and plan for our own base on the moon.
The $20 billion project will replace the plan to deploy a space station in lunar orbit, which that's eight years of money to Israel.
We're going to spend on a moon base.
It's known as Lunar Gateway.
However, NASA still plans to use the Lunar Gateway station, a lot of which was already built with the help of contractors.
But repurposing may not be simple.
So why the rush now for the space and why the change of plans?
Let's get some answers with the director of government relations at the Planetary Society, Jack Corelli, to talk more about this announcement.
Did I get that right, Jack?
Yes, you did.
It's great to be here.
So let's talk a little bit more about your reaction to this proposal.
Like, how realistic is this?
Because it sounds pretty ambitious.
It is incredibly ambitious.
And I will say, I'm really excited.
I was there at Ignition Day earlier this week.
It's a really exciting time to be a part of the space program and watching what NASA's doing under the leadership of Jared Isaacman.
And obviously, there's a lot that still needs to be figured out.
We haven't been back to the moon in 50 years.
But now, with a clear, cohesive, action-oriented plan for returning humans and this time to stay, it is certainly ambitious.
I will say that.
But it is also a very exciting time to be part of the space industry.
So the Artemis is set to take off on Wait for It, April 1st.
Okay.
Is there an over and under?
Is this something I can do on the PropBet site?
I think we should.
I think there's a Calci.
There's got to be a Calci thing for this.
Yeah.
I mean, we're not going to go to the moon.
I don't see it happening at all.
They're just pushing the goalposts.
Oh, we got a delay because, you know, we do a moon base.
Let's talk about the literal nuts and bolts of this because the lunar gateway station is largely already built in orbit, but the game plan now is to do something that's permanently stationed on the moon's surface.
So, first off, where's all the money for that going to come from?
Because that sounds expensive to me.
And then, secondly, how possible is that?
And how much more technically difficult is that?
Yeah, I mean, it's just to address the money question up front, it's the folks behind me, right, that write the appropriations laws in this country.
And so it's going to require, you know, Administrator Isaacman and the folks at NASA to sell this to the appropriations committee on the Hill and sell them on the idea of advancing the Artemis program in this direction.
And you mentioned the Lunar Gateway program, which had been a large part of the Artemis architecture, has a lot of the international collaboration components of the program.
It's going to require working with those allies as well to make sure that there's buy-in to provide the necessary assets on the lunar surface to keep our astronauts alive and doing science from the moon this time.
Yeah, we do.
We definitely want to keep them alive.
We got a minute here.
China is also trying to make progress for a moon base by 2030.
I mean, are we just trying to keep pace here or are we trying to win this moon base race here?
Who's going to be the first to put the flag on the moon?
Well, the U.S. did put the flag first on the moon in 1969.
So it certainly is a much broader field.
But the universe is certainly much larger than just the moon, right?
This is a multi-front competition with a great power competitor.
And so the competition for the 21st century is happening in the areas of scientific discovery that both the Chinese and the United States are actively pursuing.
And the moon base is a critical component of that.
Yeah, I'm feeling a push coming.
And like, well, the moon-based nuts and bolts aren't ready yet.
And, you know, the other one you want to try to catch up on?
I'm seeing it sneak into the news.
Okay.
The new fusion rocket engine.
Oh, fusion rocket engine.
Yeah.
Oh, that's.
That's the only way you're going to get the Marzin back.
Yeah.
You can't get the Marzin back.
No, we can't get anywhere.
There's that.
We can't get past the Van Allen belts.
I keep telling people, what's going to happen?
Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to give you a breather, man.
Let's wrap this thing up with our next donation segment.
I'm going to show my soul by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do this.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
I think it's amazing that just two weeks, not even two weeks after your chest was cracked open.
Cracked open.
Do they do that with a saw or they just hammer it with a chisel?
Depends.
Do you remember?
You were awake.
Do you remember?
No, I don't remember how they did it.
And you can't feel anything.
No.
But do you know?
Did they tell you?
Did they tell you?
Did they tell you?
You take a look, you got a big scar running straight up and down.
So there's like these support groups where people have had this surgery, all these open heart guys.
And it's one of these, I'm sitting in the hospital laying there watching TV.
I'm starting to appreciate MS now.
It's really bad.
It's so bad.
All right.
Michael Steele is so bad.
I'm going to start.
You're going to get a lot of clips.
I'm just warning you in advance.
So guy comes wandering in.
It's always, you know, you're just bugged.
You can't sleep because they won't give you a moment's rest.
Guy comes in.
Hi, I'm so-and-so from the open heart surgery support group.
I can see you rolling your eyes.
This is a guy.
He comes in.
He says, I know what you're going through.
He said, we have a group here in Contra Costa County or someplace.
Alameda County.
I don't know where they are.
He dropped off a couple of brochures.
And we're on and on.
And so, yeah, it turns out you have this operation, and there's all these other guys who had the operation, and they like to talk about it.
And so it's interesting enough.
I thought it was kind of amusing.
And then he says, you're not supposed to show your scar.
It's like a rule of the club.
Really?
Yeah, but you get it.
The scar is like this big, you know, perpendicular scar right down the middle of your chest.
It's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's where they cut, where they chopped you in half, basically.
Did you go to a meeting?
Did you go to group?
No, I'm still recovering.
I have to at least be able to move around more.
And do you have to stand up and say, hi?
Hi, I'm John.
And my chest is zippered.
And my chest has got a zipper.
I think you should try it.
It might be good for you.
Go to group.
Yeah, because I'm such a joiner.
Listen, if you feel you want to talk about it and you don't feel good or whatever, you can do it here on the show.
We're happy to listen to you.
There's got to be a couple of our producers who've had this done.
We need a zipper donation is what we need.
We need a zipper donation.
That's an idea.
Yeah.
Well, we do have, okay, I'm going to tease something.
Nobody's listening at this point, but so I'll tease it anyway.
For the purposes of celebrating my life, basically, or being alive, let's put it that way.
I'd like, it's a celebration of life.
The celebration of life is going to be the order of the heart.
Oh, the red knight.
Ooh, a special knighthood.
A red knight.
Okay.
Do you get a special premium?
A lapel pin?
We're designing it as we speak.
I'm going to have to get a hold of Paul.
Red Knight.
Okay.
And lapel pin will be what?
Not something goofy like a heart.
No, no, it's going to be, well, it's probably have a heart on it or be red, but something that competes with that Canadian thing, which has always irked me.
Canadian thing?
Yeah, if you're a order of Canada, it's this little diamond little thing you put on your lapel and people can see you a mile away.
It's one of those identifiers.
Huh.
Yes.
I think that's a good idea, actually.
I like that.
Yeah, it was just Jay's idea.
Red Knight.
Yeah, that's good.
Jay, of course.
She's so morbid.
Jay's like, how can I profit off of dad?
This is good.
Let's do some of that.
I love it.
Good idea.
We could use the support.
Have the bills come in yet?
No, that would be kind of amusing.
Yeah.
Well, you got to share on the show because we can't wait to find out what this little.
It's going to be ridiculous.
Yeah, I'm sure it will.
Even though it's supposed to be 100% covered.
Oh, please.
It's America, baby.
What are you talking about?
All right.
Let's thank our producers $50 and above.
We appreciate everybody sending it in to NoAgendadonations.com.
Hakon Anderson is in Portland, Oregon, $105.35.
And it's a birthday donation for his niece Tilda, who turned three on March 24th.
How nice.
Sarah Martin, Lanark Highlands, $100.
That's in Ontario.
Mimi did a fantastic job.
Thank you all.
Much love from Sarah.
Katie Kompa is in Geelong.
That's in Victoria, Australia.
$100.
Hi, John Adam.
I donated to the show today, but I'm unsure if it's possible to have the below read out.
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
He says, let me know if a higher donation is required.
Yes, it's required.
Send more money.
In the meantime, here's your note.
Please give a shout out to Daniel Kompa from Melbourne, Australia.
He's been listening since the beginning.
Our kids call you Uncle John and Uncle Adam because you are always on in the car.
It's his birthday on 27th of March.
So if you could please wish him a happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
You're on the list.
Thank you from Candace and Tucker.
Oh, thank you from his Candace and Tucker loving wife.
Oh, all right.
All right.
Well, brother.
I don't know if he's coming home tonight.
Tom is in Wrightwood, California, 8888.
That's a give John a reason to live donation.
He wants a deduce.
You've been deduced.
He says he was holding out until John actually returned.
Really?
It took John having a double bypass to donate to the show.
Okay.
William Nastulis in Greenvale.
A lot of Victorians today.
8888 to JCD's Health.
We got here because he was the best thing on Twit.
Please deduce.
Another one.
You've been deduced.
Mike Rogan, Evansville, Indiana.
Get well, John.
We love you.
Michael Cox, Reston, Virginia, spook, 8888.
Gregory Hampton, Virginia Beach, Virginia, a boob donation, 8008.
John loves the eight, so he must love boobs.
And he wanted to share a free resource that he built that may be helpful.
It's the top 200 drug study system.
Find at github.com/slash grandpa greg with 1G.
And there's Kevin McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs with a boob donation, 8008.
He says, God bless America and boobs.
John Alberini, $70.26.
Surprise night of astonishment from Yukon, Oklahoma, $54.44.
Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee, 52.72.
Scott Kowalski, Lynchburg, Virginia, 52.22.
And we hit the 50s already.
George Wushit, Lavernia, Texas, 50.
Brad McDonald, Mason, Ohio.
Benjamin Ryan, Alliance, Ohio.
And Aaron Weisger in Bend, Oregon.
Sir Richard Gardner, 50.
Michael Myers from Diamondhead, Mississippi.
Leanne Shipley, Covington, Washington.
Jan.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
That's our, that's our, wow, short list.
I guess they're only marginally happy you're back, John.
I can't help it.
It's what it is.
I'm happy you're back.
Kind of pathetic.
Yeah, a little bit, but, you know, well, at least they gave earlier.
Yeah, they did.
They did.
So thank you all very much.
And of course, our executive and associate executive producers from earlier.
You can all take possession of those executive and associate executive producer credits immediately.
Everybody else, make sure you go to noagendadonations.com.
You can also put in a recurring donation if you feel like it, any amount, any frequency.
We accept it all.
Any amount is appreciated.
After all, it's value for value.
We don't know what's valuable to you.
Only you know that, and it's up to you.
Noagendadonations.com.
And Sir William with the mountain bike celebrated on March 1st.
Dame Janet of TP Wyoming on the 15th of March.
Hakon Anderson, happy birthday to his niece, Tilda.
She turned three on March 24th.
Katie Campa, happy birthday to Daniel, March 27th, which is in two days from now.
And Karen Bauer will be celebrating on April 11th.
We'll be doing that in person, apparently, at the No Agenda meetup in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
We do not have any title changes, but we do have a layaway knight, Cameron Lindemood.
And he says, my most beloved Punch and John.
Okay.
Well, boys, we've come a long way.
I was hit in the mouth by the late conspiracy scope sometime in the early 2010s.
It's been a long time, brother.
Adam was living in Dutch exile at the time.
John, I still come across Red Fox albums I've never seen before.
And think of you.
My original goal for Knight was episode 666.
Well, better late than never, he says.
What I learned from y'all about how the media works and how to see propaganda is truly invaluable and should be required for everyone.
Oh, maybe Milania's robot can teach it.
I honestly cannot thank you both enough week in, week out.
You've kept me grounded and sane.
I mean it when I say I love you.
My father, J.R. Lindemood, Lindemood, passed away on November 2nd, 2025.
In his honor, I would like to be known as Sir C.K. Lindemood, son of J.R. of Texas, aka Sir Lindemood.
I would like peas and non-kosher love nuts for the fellow knights.
Are you familiar with love nuts?
This doesn't sound very I have no, well, I am, but not in this regard.
Not for eating.
That's right.
Not for munching.
Jingles, I've been sitting on them for a long time.
Chem Trails, Rev Manning, we got to talk about that.
AJ, it's real.
And if you'd be so kind, throw in a karma.
Be happy to.
Talk about that.
It's real.
It's real.
It's real.
You've got karma.
All right.
So we have three knights to bring up on stage today.
John, can you lift the blade by now?
Are you okay?
I can, as long as it's not over five pounds.
It's a teeny weeny blade.
We'll have to have to make do with it.
Cameron K. Lindemood, step on up.
Rick Zoller and Sir...
Oh, well, the dog.
The dog is here in spirit.
All three of you have supported the No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
I'm therefore very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir C.K. Lindemood, son of JR of Texas, Sir Rick of the Hammer, and Sir Gizmo the One-Eyed.
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys, and chardonnay, peas, and non-kosher love nuts, and a nice virtual bone for our doggy here.
Along with that, as always, we got gerbils and ginger ale.
We got beers and blunts, and of course, we got some mutton and meat.
It's always here for you.
Go to noagendarings.com.
We can't size it for the dog, I'm afraid, but I'm sure you'll work out a size.
There's a ring sizing guide on the website, and tell us where to send it.
It always comes accompanied with a certificate of authenticity and sticks of wax that you can use to melt.
These are signet rings.
Go check them out for yourself.
That is noagenderrings.com.
And thank you all for becoming knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
I think we're ready for the meetups.
Yeah, we actually have two meetup reports.
The first one is from Okanaha in Japan.
This is the one we were waiting for.
Yo, a meetup is still a meetup, even if it's just you.
Hi, Sai.
It's Sir Hank with a meetup report.
It was probable, but there was no other person here.
The next meetup I will be hosting is in Fukuoka, and hopefully there will be a bigger turnout.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I love it, man.
I'm sorry no one else showed up.
Maybe the next one.
There's definitely people in Japan who want to meet up.
We know that for sure.
And Vancouver had their meetup.
Here's their report.
Hey, this is ID Pop, end of Show Mixer with the meetup report for Vancouver, BC, Candinavia.
It was a good crew.
I got to meet a Viscount and hit some people in the mouth.
We met some great people from higher side chats as well.
The last meetup I went to, the host didn't show up.
So I started my own.
Now I feel connected and protected.
Feed up.
It's like a party.
Great to see you back in the saddle there, John.
Good to have you back.
We're having a great meetup here in Vancouver.
Had a bunch of people here.
Most of them are gone now, but fantastic time in the morning.
Hey, just finished the Vancouver meetup.
Great time.
Great people.
We'll be back again in the morning.
Hi, guys.
It's very interesting.
And they were so nice.
And I hope they had fun.
And this is Hive from Aliba Room in Vancouver.
All right.
End of show mixers doing meetup reports.
Gotta love it.
We do have a couple of meetups taking place.
One on this, actually a couple this Saturday.
The No Agenda Dallas for Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities meetup at Cheff Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas.
Sir Nerdworks hosting.
The Central Ohio March Edition meetup at noon.
By the way, the mid-cities is 11.30 in the morning.
So the Central Ohio March Edition is Jackie O's in Columbus.
The Fort Wayne Club 33 March Madness meetup, 1 o'clock at Hall's Tavern at Coventry.
And they'll be in the back room, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Hayatop, Hop, No Agenda.
High, no, High Country, Hop, No Agenda.
Don't stop.
That'll be in Australia, 1 o'clock Eastern Australian Standard Time.
High Country Hop Festival site in Beachwood, Victoria.
All right.
I need a meetup report from you guys.
And also on Saturday, and this will be the do-over, Fukua Fukoka, Castle Ruins Cherry Blossom Viewing, 1.30.
That's your Japanese Standard Time.
At Maiduru Maizuru Park in Fukuoka, Kyushu, Japan.
Maybe it's because I can't pronounce them that people didn't show up.
That may be part of the problem.
And I apologize for that.
So if you're in Japan, if you're in that area, then please go and meet Sir Hank Itami.
Don't let him be there alone.
We look forward to a full meetup report coming up in the month of April on the 2nd, Raleigh, North Carolina, Osaka.
Now, we know there's lots of people in Osaka, so that'll be on April 4th.
The 11th is a big meetup day, Eagle, Idaho, Albany, California.
Maybe John will come and show you his scar.
Maybe not.
La Siette, Louisiana on the 11th, and Fredericksburg, Texas.
Yes, the keeper and I, and many of your local celebrities from Fredericksburg will be there.
The 16th, Charlotte, North Carolina, Franklin, Tennessee on the 18th.
Always a good group there.
Schaefening in the Netherlands on the 25th.
Brighton, Michigan on the 26th.
And Leipzig in Germany.
That's in Saxony.
Make sure you go to that one.
And whenever you have a meetup, which, as you know, are completely unregulated.
They're producer organized.
You get what you put into it.
Try and make a meetup report.
Just pass a phone around.
If it's a hassle, I'm happy to edit it.
Just send it in to me.
We'll take care of it.
Make sure everyone talks loudly enough.
And if you can, always get your server in on the action.
Noagendametups.com.
Connection is protection.
The people you meet there will be your first responders in any emergency.
They keep you stable so you're able.
Go to noagendametups.com.
If you can't find a meetup near you, start one yourself.
It's real easy.
And they are always guaranteed a party.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You to be where you want me, trigger to hell aim.
You to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Well, zippered or not, John has a tip of the day standing by for you.
But as always, we want to see if we can select a fitting ISO for the end of the show.
You sent me one as a bonus clip just before we started the show.
Do you want to hear mine first or should we go with yours?
Okay.
Either way.
Here we go.
Here's mine.
I thought it was pretty outrageous.
Okay, there's one.
And that's it.
That's all they have to do.
And that's the other one I have.
My mind.
Okay, here's yours.
This is old wisdom passed down through generations.
Hey, why does he sound so muffled?
That's what he sounds like: his voice.
And that's an AI voice, and it sounds not.
This is old wisdom passed down through generations.
I don't know.
I mean, do you think that's better than I thought it was pretty outrageous?
Yeah.
You want the outrageous ones?
Your pick.
No, heart patient goes first.
I'll call you a heart patient.
Sorry.
I am.
Yeah, I once called Dave Weiner a heart patient and he hung up on me.
Why?
Because he was a heart patient.
He didn't like me saying, I don't like that term.
He hated it.
He says, don't call me a heart patient.
I never met a guy that sweated so much.
However, here's a guy who's got a tip of the day.
Green master you and me.
Just the tip with JCD.
I don't know why I didn't come up with this tip before.
This is an old tip.
There's a tip that we should have had on here: lead testing swabs.
Ooh.
Yes, that sounds like something we definitely should have had.
Yeah.
You know, you go to Goodwill, you pick up some old crockery.
Check it for lead.
It could be toxic.
And so one example is the AA Wipes Lead Test Kit.
30 swabs is on Amazon.
Enhanced lead testing formulation.
At home, lead paint is also good for testing paint.
Moving into a new house, test paint.
Now, wait a minute.
You just swab the walls or what do you do?
And then you stick it in a thing and it turns colors.
Huh.
I mean, people check their drugs all the time.
I mean, I'm surprised we don't have these.
Everybody doesn't have these just around the day.
Everyone should have these lead test kits.
And they're available on Amazon.
What's the price?
Well, this is the AA wipes.
It's one of many.
There's a lot of companies that make these.
Nine bucks.
It's a good tip and it could save your life.
How about that?
A $9 tip of the day that could save your life.
Find more at noagendafund.com, tipoftheday.net.
Great advice for you and me than just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Bernetti.
That's right.
Where would we be without Dana?
Without Dana, we wouldn't have House of Cards.
What a tragedy that would be.
And so we end another No Agenda media deconstruction for you.
You might want to stay tuned to the No Agenda stream because we have the Random Thoughts podcast coming up next.
And the title of this one is Known Addictive Products.
So you know what that's going to be about.
I'm sure it's a deep dive into the addictiveness of social media.
End of show mixes, both of them coming from MVP.
And if you feel so called, send me your end of show mixes.
Keep them about a minute 30.
Adam at Curry.com.
And we'll be back on Sunday to bring the Watt Engine to your cottage, as Darren O'Neal would say, and slam some of that bass in your face.
Until then, coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, beautiful Fredericksburg, Texas, where we will be meeting on April 11th.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern San Francisco Bay, I'm John C. DeVorag.
Please remember us at NoAgendadonations.com.
It's taken a lot to do this show.
Until Sunday, adios, mofos, a hooey-hoo-eye, and such.
It's the best podcast in the universe.
It's time to start the show.
We've got the clips, we've got the tips, and everything you know.
The media spinning tails and weaving out a lie.
But we've got Adam and JCD to give it a try.
Deconstructing every word to keep the spirit strong.
With value for value, magic man, we're moving right on.
Shut up, slave, it's a show you claim.
In the morning till you let the banners wave.
No agenda here, let the truth be clear.
With a double shot of courage and a lack of fear.
Kick your heels up high, let the narrative die.
It's the no agenda show, reaching for the sky.
Can, can you hear it?
The media's a mess.
Can, can you feel it?
The truth we must confess is the no exender.
So old Adam used to swear a blue streak every single day until he washed his mouth with soap and threw the words away.
But John backs on no agenda and he's slipping now and then, letting out a mother trucker to the boys and men.
Now Adam's ears are burning.
He's trying to stay clean while John is dancing right on the edge of what is quite obscene.
Oh, I stepped into a puddle right up to my knee.
I yelled out, Mother Father, for the neighborhood to see.
Mimi looked aghast, she thought I'd lost my mind.
Until I told her, Ship it, I'm the hard-working kind.
The air is getting salty, the clouds are turning black.
But I'm a reformed fellow, there ain't no turning back.
Oh, oh, it's a ducking shame, it's a fucking rocko-ride.
Keep the fire trucking language all locked up deep inside.
I'm the son of a biscuit, a real corksucker too.
Just pull it on my corks until the wine comes into view.
We're sticking to the phonics, we're dancing on the edge.
Without a single word to drive a person or the ledge.
So if you're feeling clucked, just go and find a hand.
Say a hallelujah every now and then.
Keep your darn socks mended and your gosh darn soul.
And leave the dirty words inside the toilet bowl.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, Mofo.
I thought it was pretty outrageous.
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