No Agenda - 1816 - "Boomer Knowledge"

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1816 - "Boomer Knowledge"

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	Oh, my dad was right.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, November 13th, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Get One Nation Media Assassination Episode 1816.
	This is No Agenda.
	With Bikini Clad Babes, we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where there's no bikinis because it's raining out.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Black Bond Moskill.
	That's right.
	Who gave us these?
	Somebody sent these.
	I don't remember.
	Somebody.
	And they look like.
	It's one of the few times they send them to both of us.
	Usually I just get stuff.
	And they look like a really bad sex toy.
	And it takes a lot of figure.
	You have to figure out how to use it right.
	It takes talent, is what you're saying.
	And what's the point?
	People have to.
	We should probably take a picture of this and put it on the newsletter.
	But it's like, what's the point of the lid?
	Well, if you close the lid, it doesn't work.
	Right, but what's the point of it?
	Well, if you look inside.
	Just to keep rats going in it or what's the point?
	No, well, look, I have wondered this myself.
	Funny you bring it up.
	And if you look inside, there's a very sensitive film inside.
	And so I believe it is to protect that from rats.
	You see that?
	There's a little film, little rubbery thing.
	Yeah, no, I see what's in there.
	It looks like a smiley face.
	Yeah, well, if you touch that, then that thing has a little bit of a okay.
	And the kind of crazy, crazy device that we have.
	Good morning to you podcast enthusiasts.
	We're glad that you're here.
	I'm waiting for the penny to drop with you.
	Okay, well, you set me up with a beautiful opening for I'm not sure what.
	Don't you remember?
	I'm talking about these Kimmel clips.
	No, I'm talking about the great email we received from Stone McGee.
	What's Stone McGee?
	What was the Stone McGee email?
	Stone McGee said, I have his email.
	Hi, No Agenda Rings.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	I forgot about this email.
	Yes, I got an email.
	I sent it to Adam.
	I got this email that was obviously done.
	These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
	Especially Stone McGee.
	Stone McGee in particular.
	And yes, I would hope to, yes, thank you.
	By the way, thank you for bringing that email up.
	This is the kind of email we get, or I got this one.
	Both of us get these, though, from guys who are sales guys that really don't know how to sell because they can't even write a note.
	This is not even written by them.
	It's written by some AI that, and this shows you why it fails.
	Well, please read this list.
	Yes.
	And by the way, I think Stone McGee is a great DJ name.
	There's nothing wrong with it.
	Stone McGee in the morning.
	Good morning, everybody.
	Stone McGee with you.
	Hi, No Agenda Rings.
	We have NoAgendarings.com.
	So this is where it was.
	Somebody scraped the internet and found this web address.
	I wanted to share the result of my 60-day comparative analysis of No Agenda Show.
	It appears that NoAgendashow.net and noagendashop.com are receiving better online clicks.
	The good news?
	Enhancing strategies around keywords like No Agenda Podcast, Knighthood Rings, Sir Dame Status Rings, my favorite.
	Yeah, that's a beauty.
	I like a Sir Dame status ring.
	And unique podcast merchandise, along with effective technical modifications, will allow noagendarings.com to improve engagement with podcast enthusiasts.
	Well, when I heard that, when I heard that we could improve engagement with podcast enthusiasts, I was very turned on.
	Interested in discussing this further?
	Regards, Stone McGee.
	So I just wondered how many people out there are a podcast enthusiast who are listening to us.
	Probably a few.
	I'm sure there are quite a few podcast enthusiasts.
	Yes.
	It's amazing.
	Yes, that is the kind of pathetic pitch.
	It's a pitch that floats around.
	And I don't know that it's like it's a negative.
	If you get a pitch from a guy like this, you would never do business with him because this is just a moment of incompetence.
	And still, I wager that he still gets people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's great.
	I suppose under the, if you send out 1 million emails to every web address that you have scraped, there's got to be one that would fit the criteria perfectly for that.
	So in others, as it pulled out information, it would pull out exactly the right information and sound like a real pitch.
	Wow.
	And maybe there could be 10 or 20 or 30 of them.
	I have yet to see one.
	I haven't seen one either, but I did get a note from Justin from OP Way.
	He was on a flight and he was catching up on No Agenda.
	He's like, holy mackerel, you guys called me out like three times.
	He says, yes, noagendaboots.com, noagenda sneakers.com, and noagendashoes.com will soon be on the air for our value-tainment footwear.
	Value tainment clone.
	He says, shall I send the contracts over?
	I said, no, no.
	If you can just put podcast, no agenda on the soles of these shoes or stitch in some ITM33s, just send a donation from time to time.
	We'll be fine.
	That's it.
	That's our basic system.
	That is the value taint.
	We're not changing nothing.
	Although I wonder.
	We're not signing anything.
	No, we're not signing it.
	I wonder how the kids at noagendashop.com are doing.
	I haven't heard of it.
	No, no, no.
	I think they need a boost.
	Noagendashop.com for all your no agenda shop slop.
	It's all there, everybody.
	I think they may have burned out.
	I mean, you know, the whole, we've noticed this, of course, and we've been doing this long enough that you, because we did t-shirts too at the very beginning.
	We did?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We had the new.
	Oh, Eric tried to make money off of that.
	Yeah, he was Gitmonation or something.
	He lost his shirt, so to speak.
	Yeah, it's a loser.
	Yeah.
	And people who do merch.
	Merch.
	They lose their asses eventually.
	Sometimes they'll get a little boost at the beginning, but it's not sustainable because it's like you have a set number of, in our case, producers, and they grab a few things now and again at the beginning when they're enthusiastic.
	And then after a while, they stop buying.
	And so you can't get repeat customers.
	No, then you're stuck with a whole pile of t-shirts.
	Yeah.
	Which you can't even give away to anybody else because they don't know what the hell you're talking about.
	What is this Gitmonation thing?
	I don't want this.
	Get my bring them to Goodwill.
	So we do it this way, which is.
	And it's actually quite difficult.
	I mean, even, so we have one premium feature, which is the knight in the dame ring, and we got a note from...
	Well, we also have the other minor, the come and go features, which is the, for example, currently we have the Peace Prize.
	No, Agenda Peace Prize, yeah.
	Yeah, but that, I mean, that's a very exclusive, limited supply.
	And then we have the Rubalizer, which I got to do a quick update on the Rubilizer.
	Oh, for the challenge coin?
	Yeah, Paul Couture just sent me a mock-up of one side of the challenge coin.
	Yeah.
	He is the best at this.
	He did the original challenge coin for us.
	And he does the website that we use, the noagendaart.com.
	No, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	But yeah, okay, go.
	It's only been there for 15 years.
	Yeah, what am I going to do?
	I can't, you know, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	So it's very convenient to type all that in.
	Once you do it, it auto-completes.
	Don't worry.
	Once you get it right.
	So he did the original art, and he is just incredibly talented artist.
	And he's, this thing will be done probably within the next 30 days.
	Okay.
	Then we got to have it produced, which is another, which Jay will do.
	Yeah.
	I was looking at my challenge coin collection.
	We have done quite a number of challenge coins.
	I think one of my favorites is the 2012 Geocache coin.
	Remember that one?
	I have a collection too.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't come to me.
	These things will be around long after we're gone.
	That's what I like.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	And at some point, like 100 years from now, somebody will discover them and it'll be on Antiques Road Show.
	Yes, and we found one of these.
	These are very collectible, and the market's been going up.
	What is the challenge coin?
	Well, I've got two of them.
	They're worth $7,000 each.
	Wow.
	Oh, my dad was right.
	The Antique Road Show.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Well, I did see your series of Kimo clips come in, so I'm very interested.
	I think maybe just for form's sake, we should probably do the Epstein stuff because that is, oh, my Lord is just so amazing.
	Trump is mentioned.
	He's been bikini-clad girls.
	It's all Epstein.
	Tonight in newly released emails, sex offender Jeffrey Epstein repeatedly discussing Donald Trump, shedding new light on their long friendship and seeming to suggest Trump had information he never shared.
	In a 2011 exchange with his co-conspirator Glenn Maxwell, Epstein writing the quote, dog that hasn't barked is Trump, adding one of his victims spent hours with Trump at Epstein's home, but that Trump has never once been mentioned.
	Maxwell replying, I have been thinking about that.
	The emails obtained from the Epstein estate.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Bombshell!
	Maxwell replying, I have been thinking about that.
	The emails obtained from the Epstein estate were released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.
	Tonight, House Republicans and the White House say the victim mentioned was Virginia Jufre, who once worked at Trump's spa at Mar-a-Lago.
	She had said she never saw Trump do anything inappropriate.
	She died by suicide earlier this year.
	Trump and Epstein were friends for more than a decade.
	Have you socialized with him?
	Yes, sir.
	Yes?
	Yes, sir.
	Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
	Now, I better invoke something here.
	Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today, I'm going to have to assert my fifth, sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
	Trump insists he broke off the friendship when he learned Epstein and Maxwell were luring away women and teenage girls who worked at Mar-a-Lago.
	Sold people that work for me.
	I said, don't ever do that again.
	He did it again.
	And I threw him out of the place.
	Persona non grata.
	I threw him out.
	And that was it.
	I thought the most interesting of the Epstein emails was Michael Wolf, who, you know, this hoity-toity journalist, he was basically an image consultant for Epstein.
	Well, you know, if you do this and then, you know, it'll look like that in the media.
	I mean, that guy's creepy.
	He basically was working for Epstein.
	Yeah, as a PR consultant.
	Yeah.
	Let's go around the world.
	Let's see what the BBC has to say.
	Well, shortly before we came in the studio to record this podcast, Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives released emails from the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that referenced President Trump.
	They say the emails raise serious questions about how much Mr. Trump knew about the late financier's behavior.
	Mr. Trump has consistently said he knew nothing of Epstein's activities and didn't engage in any wrongdoing himself.
	Another White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt, has responded by saying the Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump.
	Okay, let's check out France 24 then, shall we?
	A damning new batch of emails which threaten to raise questions about U.S. President Donald Trump's relationship.
	Stop, stop.
	Their phrase.
	They threaten.
	Yes, they threaten to raise questions.
	To raise questions.
	No, wait a minute.
	Why don't they just raise questions?
	Why did they have to threaten to do it?
	Why don't you just raise the questions as opposed to threaten to raise?
	I'm threatening that I'm going to ask you a question.
	What kind of...
	What kind of thinking is this?
	It's even more ludicrous because if I understood the report correctly, it's the emails raise the threatening questions.
	The emails.
	So this non-entity is threatening to raise questions.
	Listen.
	A damning new batch of emails which threaten to raise questions about U.S. President Donald Trump's relationship.
	Oh, those emails.
	I'm afraid of them.
	With Jeffrey Epstein and whether or not he knew about the sex offender's crimes.
	The three emails were released by U.S. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.
	In one exchange between Epstein and his former girlfriend, Ghillane Maxwell, Epstein alleges an unnamed victim spent hours at his house with Trump.
	And in another exchange, this time between Epstein and author Michael Wolf, Epstein says, of course, Trump knew about the girls as he asked Ghillane to stop.
	Donald Trump has consistently denied that he had any knowledge of Epstein's sex trafficking activities.
	The White House responded by accusing Democrats of smearing President Trump, but the emails could heap pressure on the White House to publish the files.
	Democrats in the House are now a step closer to forcing the publication with the swearing in of a Democrat as representative for Arizona's 7th congressional district.
	Do you notice, by the way, that the France 24 report is also done by a Brit?
	I find that just interesting.
	Which had been delayed since she was elected seven weeks ago.
	She has now signed the petition, giving it the needed 218 signatures that could eventually lead to the release of the so-called Epstein case files.
	It's too early.
	We have to drag it out until the midterms.
	That's when it's going to get really fun.
	It's too early.
	Don't do it now.
	Yeah, it's possible that they're going to force us out sooner than later.
	Well, yeah, I think they definitely are.
	That what's her name?
	The new girl.
	Gridjalva.
	Gridjalva?
	It's Gridjalva.
	I don't know her name either.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's something crazy.
	She was on with Anderson Pooper.
	Let me see.
	No.
	You won't be able to pronounce her name even when you look at it.
	Let me see what CNN had.
	Here's Randy Kay.
	Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
	This guy's been talked about for years.
	Are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
	That was President Donald Trump in July this year, offering a very different opinion of Jeffrey Epstein than he once shared publicly.
	In 2002, long before he became president, Trump told New York Magazine he'd known Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years and called him a terrific guy.
	He's a lot of fun to be with.
	It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side, Trump told the magazine.
	Over the years, the two have been spotted many times in public together.
	This NBC video shows Trump and Epstein socializing in 1992 at a party at Trump's Mar-a Lago estate.
	The video, released in 2019, shows Trump appearing to say to Epstein, look at her back there.
	She's hot, while Epstein smiles and nods.
	Former swimsuit model Stacey Williams, who dated Epstein in 1993, told CNN in an interview, Trump was Epstein's wingman.
	They were best friends.
	They were very close and they were up to no good.
	The two men.
	Wait a minute.
	She didn't actually say wingman.
	But why didn't they put the wingman Nat Puck in catch?
	Yeah.
	She didn't say that.
	Yeah, this is one of those classic examples that we keep pointing out in the show over and over again, where the host says one thing and the exemplary clip that they bring into play doesn't say it at all.
	Look at her back there.
	She's hot while Epstein smiles and nods.
	Former swimsuit model Stacey Williams, who dated Epstein in 1993, told CNN in an interview Trump was Epstein's wingman.
	So she's literally saying she told CNN in an interview that Trump was Epstein's wingman.
	This is their archive footage, I presume.
	And yet she doesn't say that.
	They were best friends.
	They were very close and they were up to no good.
	The two men flew together as well.
	No, definitely not.
	And I like this, he flew on the jet, yeah, but not with Epstein.
	Okay.
	And they were up to no good.
	The two men flew together as well.
	These flight logs show Trump traveled on Epstein's jet four times in 1993, twice in 1994, and once in 1995 and in 1997.
	The logs were made public during Ghelane Maxwell's 2021 trial, where she was convicted of sex trafficking, among other things.
	Epstein also attended Trump's wedding to Marla Maples at New York's Plaza Hotel in 1993.
	In 1997, Trump added this personal note to Epstein inside a copy of his book, The Art of the Comeback.
	It reads, To Jeff, you are the greatest, according to the New York Times.
	That same year, the two men were photographed together at Mar-Lago.
	Why do I even get the joke?
	That's a joke that you could have made.
	Yeah, it would be my type of joke.
	Yeah, I like that joke.
	You are the greatest, according to the New York Times.
	That same year, the two men were photographed together at Mar-a-Lago.
	This exclusive CNN video shows Epstein and Trump chatting in 1999 before Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
	Yeah, so, okay, so nothing.
	Where did that come from?
	Where was that report?
	That was CNN.
	Oh, brother.
	CNN.
	Yeah.
	And I won't bore you with the Anderson Pooper had the great CNN was brought into play in the newsletter, the last newsletter, as the hypocrite of the week.
	Yeah, the newsletter was good, actually.
	I liked the newsletter because we invoked the inverse Fredericksburg theory, which was perfect.
	The inverse Fredericksburg theory where the word around.
	Well, yes, on the show we did.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Where the word around town was 90 days.
	And then we, of course, concluded, well, that means it'll end any minute now.
	Yeah, any admitted.
	But it did.
	It ended right after the show.
	Grid's going down.
	No, the grid's not going to go down.
	Don't worry about it.
	That's the inverse Fredericksburg theme.
	Yes, the inverse.
	That's actually, that's a good phrase.
	Yeah.
	And we should note it because it's been 100% accurate.
	It has.
	100%.
	And I think you were correct in asserting that this was all done to get through these Democratic sweep, the sweep of governors and mayors and other people.
	Prop 50.
	Prop 50.
	One thing after another.
	Which surprisingly passed.
	And you said it would never pass.
	No, no.
	No.
	I never said it would never pass.
	I said it will never get implemented because as we talked about months ago, because when it was first being thought of, the redistricting thing before it was actually a proposition, but they were talking about doing it because of Texas.
	There were some of the local yokels on the Commonwealth Club saying, yeah, well, the Republicans tried doing this too, and they got it passed, and the courts struck it down, and this is going to get struck down, too.
	Ah, okay.
	Well, who was challenging it before the court?
	It's being challenged by a number of groups, and the rationale for the challenge is quite good.
	It's a racial thing.
	It's racism.
	They're making new districts based on race, and that's illegal and it's unconstitutional, and it's going to get struck down.
	It's a bullcrap thing.
	What?
	You're telling me the Democrats are racist?
	What?
	Yeah.
	I've heard about this.
	I can't prove it.
	Oh, that's good.
	But I've heard it.
	So I do have North Sea Nexus stuff.
	I have a North Sea Nexus.
	And by the way, I'm disliking the term.
	Why?
	Because the Spanish have a monarchy.
	Yeah, they're part of it.
	Yes, they're part of it.
	Yeah, but they're not in the North Sea.
	That's the problem I'm having.
	Well, if you go far enough to the north.
	They're on the Mediterranean.
	It's nowhere near there.
	But we have jingles and everything.
	You cannot.
	I just like that.
	I like the idea of a monarchy being thrown in because there's a monarchic aspect to this.
	But everyone is already used to North Sea Nexus.
	Well, I'm not going to kick it off the boat.
	I'm just saying.
	It's like the Eurovision song contest, including Israel.
	I mean, come on.
	It's like...
	Well, that's exactly what we're dealing with.
	We should be able to do that.
	I have a North Sea Nexus clip.
	Why don't we wait with the North Sea Nexus?
	You have like 8,000 clips about Kimmel.
	This must be weighing very heavy on you.
	Well, let me explain.
	Okay.
	Most of these clips are short, as you'll notice.
	Okay.
	This, I felt like I was, this was from a podcast called We Can Do Hard Things that's run by three lesbians.
	Okay.
	A lesbian, a famous lesbian couple, a famous lesbian couple, an author and her.
	Well, how famous are they?
	Well, the woman, I have to go look them up, their names, because I can't keep remembering.
	They're so famous.
	No, she's super famous.
	She's written a bunch of lesbian books.
	She's a super famous author.
	And her Diesel Dyke wife is a famous U.S. soccer player and a soccer coach.
	These are not slouches, but I never heard of them.
	But they're not slouches in the scheme of things.
	Glenn and Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle?
	Yeah.
	Okay, super famous.
	That's what I feel too.
	But you look them up, especially Glenda, and they're famous, but they're only famous in lesbian circles.
	Oh.
	You're not a lesbian.
	No.
	I'm not a lesbian.
	Who are we to say what's famous?
	Who's a famous lesbian?
	We can't do it.
	And we are famously out of touch.
	We're old boomers.
	We don't know who the famous young lesbian authors are.
	Well, have you checked this for authenticity?
	Yes, I did.
	And I did a little research.
	Enough research to indicate that, yes, they're famous lesbians.
	So, this qualifies as media deconstruction because it's not just a podcast, it's a podcast hosted by famous lesbians.
	Yes, exactly.
	All right, I mean, so that brought so I feel here's what would, and so Jimmy Kimmel and his wife, who live next door to the famous lesbians, decided to do their podcast and they and they revealed a lot to an extreme, I think, because they were so relaxed with these lesbians that they it's just because here's what to me.
	Here's what to me: I felt like Sigmund Freud and who walked into my office but a sexually perverted, schizophrenic, bipolar, paranoid, screwball nut job of the highest order that I'd never see or witness again in my entire life.
	And that would be Jimmy Kimmel, it would be no, actually, Jimmy Kimmel's wife.
	Oh, well, this explains a lot about him.
	Molly, Molly Kimmel, Molly McNinerny, something McNinery.
	Is she related to the other McNinerny?
	No, no, no, this is the different spelling.
	It's totally different.
	At any point, did anyone on the podcast say, hey, stop clamming up?
	Or did that not happen?
	So, brother, you got a little list there or something that you refer to for these kinds of jobs?
	Yeah, it's called the troll room.
	Okay, on point.
	What am I thinking?
	So, um, just to give you an indicator, I'm going to play the two clips of the opening.
	Now, when you're introduced to a podcast, this is the uh, I would have to tell you what these clips are specifically so you could because they're put together in a very awkward way.
	Yes, I can tell.
	So, the one you're looking for here for the starter is Kimmel and Wife One.
	And before you play it, this is a short nine seconds.
	So, you go on a podcast and you usually say, Hi, how you doing?
	And you usually say, Hi, hello, or whatever.
	You know, it's a phony baloney greeting.
	Listen to the way they begin.
	How's it going?
	Hi, guys.
	How you doing?
	Good.
	I might cry just seeing your faces.
	Wow.
	I can see.
	I'm going to try this with my guys.
	And she's the first thing she says is not hello.
	No, I'm going to cry.
	I'm going to cry.
	I'm going to say that next time I'm on Rogan.
	I say, hey, Joe.
	Hey, brother.
	I'm about to cry.
	It's just so good to see you.
	Okay.
	Now, Kimmel tries to soften the blow with Kimmel Wife 2.
	Kimmel Wife.
	Wait.
	Kimmel and oh, Kimmel Wife, too.
	I got it.
	You cry on every podcast.
	No, I already don't feel special.
	Can you cry hardest today?
	I will definitely cry the hardest here.
	Sissy.
	Oh, my God.
	This is so exciting.
	Oh, man.
	But this is neighbor talk.
	Do they have to take a bus to their neighbor?
	They're in one of those homes, like those really big homesteads in Beverly.
	No, Beverly Hills is close together in Brentwood.
	Yeah, they're pretty.
	They're right next door.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I could jump to the one clip.
	I mean, I can play all these clips.
	I'm going to play it.
	Roll the way you want to, man.
	I'm ready.
	I'm excited.
	Let's okay.
	Would the thing that so far?
	So far it's not paying off, but I'm excited.
	There it is again, ladies and gentlemen.
	You know, I have to say, I got a note from Julie, Julie Sensman.
	Yes, good old Julie.
	And Julie says, Adam, I wish you and John would not have talked about how mean you are to him because now I notice it all the time.
	There it is.
	It's all subtle.
	It's all resentful.
	It's very difficult.
	It's noticeable.
	It's noticeable.
	Okay.
	So we go with it.
	We go with it.
	Now, what triggered my fascination.
	And I don't want to belabor this and make it a 40-minute presentation, but it was a chunk of this was presented on every Fox show about her being upset with her relatives.
	And that's all they left it.
	They left all the good stuff out.
	And I want to start with some of this stuff.
	And let's go with this is this, I think, is part of the two-parter that is that they played everywhere, at least chunks of it everywhere to make her look like an idiot.
	And by the way, she is.
	And she's always scolding him.
	And she's always saying, let's get back on track.
	Let's get back on track.
	Let's get back on track.
	She says that a lot.
	And he's just, he's a beaten man.
	And it's almost pathetic to watch.
	And the last clip that I play on this presentation is extremely pathetic.
	And I leave it for the end.
	This is Kimmel and wife losses.
	Losses.
	Okay.
	Long one.
	Yep.
	I got you.
	This is random, but I think about it all the time with you guys.
	Like, you come from a pretty conservative family.
	Yes.
	I just.
	Not me, but no, not you.
	And I just wonder, like, what is Thanksgiving?
	It's one thing to come from a conservative family and just sort of, you know, deprogram yourself and go along your life.
	What is it like to come from a conservative family and then become like the mocking J of the other side?
	Mocking.
	Well, it's definitely been challenging.
	Thankfully, my immediate family all, they did not vote for Donald Trump.
	They did the first time, a few of them.
	We flipped them the second time.
	It's weird.
	When Donald Trump was first elected, I was so upset.
	We all were.
	But I remember thinking, I understand it because I grew up in a very conservative Republican house.
	I mean, I bought my dad a Rush Limbaugh tie in high school.
	I voted Republican straight ticket, and that's what I was told to do.
	And then I left St. Louis, Missouri, and I met people from different backgrounds, and I started to understand different things and different needs and different people.
	And so there's like a little bit of sympathy I have for people in my family that I feel are kind of being deliberately misinformed every day.
	And they've kind of.
	They are deliberately being misinformed every day and they believe it.
	But it hurts me so much because of the personal relationship I now have where my husband is out there fighting this man.
	And to me, them voting for Trump is them not voting for my husband and me and our family.
	And I unfortunately have kind of lost relationships with people in my family because of that.
	You know, obviously I read the New York Times like all day long.
	Mainly on my iPad app.
	Yeah, it's her.
	It's her.
	Wow.
	And so Jimmy Kimmel is fighting Donald Trump.
	This man.
	This man, this man of mine.
	He is fighting, fighting Donald.
	This is sad to hear, actually.
	So far, you've only made me sad.
	Yeah, this is not going to be uplifting.
	I'll just give you that warning.
	It's pathetic.
	And the fact that there are people out there like this, and now you have to remember that she is the head writer of the Kimball show and the executive producer.
	Oh, how did she get that gig?
	She started off as an intern, I think, when the show first began about 20 years ago, and she worked her way up and took over the show.
	Wow.
	Oh, that's a rags to riches story.
	Yeah, well, she seems like an aggressive woman.
	And she not only took over the show, but she married Jimmy.
	So she was the writer on the show and they met on the show.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a sexist that's illegal in some states.
	So when did the lesbians come in?
	Because so far it's like.
	The lesbians will be explained at the end that they, when they move to this new house, that's when they discovered the lesbians were next door.
	The lesbians are talking on and off.
	You can't tell the difference.
	One of those great shows where everybody's voice is exactly the same.
	But most of this is Molly.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, most the lesbians are very, I'm just trying to clip Molly.
	And here's Molly again.
	And this is part two of that clip.
	This is losses two.
	It's like, this is not just Republican versus Democrat for me anymore.
	It is, to me, it's family values.
	And it's really hard for me because I grew up believing in these Christian ideals of taking care of the sick and taking care of the poor.
	And I don't see that happening with this Republican Party.
	And so I feel like I'm kind of in constant conflict and I'm angry all the time, which isn't healthy at all.
	But I like personalize everything now.
	When I see these terrible stories every day, I'm immediately mad at certain aunts, uncles, cousins who put him in power.
	And it's really hard.
	I wish I could deprogram myself in some way, but I get really angry.
	Oh, no.
	Come to Bridge Church.
	We'll take care of you.
	Don't worry if you want to be deprogrammed.
	That's unlikely.
	It's really bad for her.
	She gets mad at her family for putting him, him in power.
	Yeah.
	Jeez.
	So here we go with the this is just this isn't this is a little later and this comes up because I just thought it was it was connected.
	And this is this is the Kimmel and wife final resentment clip.
	Like every time I go to a fundraiser and we all we do a lot of fundraising and donating to candidates and causes, I go, of course I'm going to give this, but I'd rather be giving it to children's hospital right now.
	Like, why?
	And I'm giving money so I can make sure this woman who should definitely be elected gets elected.
	Like, what are we, duh?
	Of course this woman should win.
	Why are we voting for this clown?
	And I get resentful of the amount of energy we all have to push forward so we don't keep falling back.
	Or I'm like, can we just keep going this way?
	And we just keep getting yanked back and yanked back.
	And I get really resentful of people in my life that I feel like put us there.
	Causes and candidates.
	Wow.
	Always women involved, by the way.
	She's a very feminist.
	Well, isn't this exactly, although she's not middle class, but she's upper class, upper class white woman.
	Yeah, she's the classic.
	Very classic.
	Now, I got two clips here.
	This is where they tell the kids when he got suspended for a couple of days.
	It was this big deal, national news.
	And they have to tell the kids.
	And so there's a lot of what is it's like it's not like daddy lost his job from the factory.
	I mean, they're going to be okay.
	Well, this is an interesting, this shows you the family dynamics.
	They have brainwashed their kids.
	If you listen to these clips carefully, it's quite interesting.
	And I don't believe there's any exaggeration or embellishment with this discussion.
	And this is, there's a two-parter here.
	And this is Kimmel and wife telling their kids.
	And Jimmy let them know.
	He said, my show has been suspended.
	And our daughter immediately burst into tears.
	And she said, I'll sell my laboo boos.
	And we told her, yeah, you should.
	No, we did not.
	We told her, no, you don't need to do that.
	You don't need to sell labo-boos.
	And our son asked if the president had done this.
	And we looked at each other and we didn't quite know how to answer that question.
	I think I said yes.
	We did.
	We actually both said yes at the exact same time.
	We said yes.
	He did.
	And it's weird, you know, because you don't want your kids to.
	It's certainly not an experience I had with my parents.
	You know, I think every single parent who has ever lost a job, there is that heartbreaking moment.
	I remember my daughter saying it when I got fired for the seventh time.
	Well, dad, you know, I can help.
	I think she actually said, can't you just go to the money machine?
	I think that's what she said.
	Well, that's not the point of this clip.
	No, I understand.
	It's the indoctrination about the president.
	And the idea that Trump fired him.
	Yeah.
	Trump.
	Yes.
	And then they, because one kid says, oh, did the president fire you?
	And then they said, yeah, he did.
	No, he didn't.
	That's a lie.
	Yeah.
	That's just a blatant lie.
	Well, I think we should call the children protection.
	Stir letters of the times.
	Okay, so here's the second part of this.
	This is Kimmel and wife kids too.
	To calm her down, you know, we said, we're okay.
	We're going to be fine.
	It's going to be okay.
	This does not change your life.
	It doesn't change your friends.
	It doesn't change the memories you make.
	We're going to be okay.
	And we really, Jimmy and I think really both believed that night the show was never coming back.
	And then I were lying.
	So we were lying.
	But it does.
	And then I went over to the pantry and ate everything in it.
	Yes.
	Also true.
	And I said to Jane, I said, and Billy, I said, I want you guys to know that it's really important you remember this moment.
	And I want you to remember this, that your dad and his show are on the right side of history.
	I want you to remember that.
	And my daughter very earnestly paused and she said, I thought we were on the left.
	Wow.
	Kudos for sitting through this thing.
	I couldn't get away from it.
	I felt like, again, Freud.
	It was unbelievable.
	So let's go on with a couple of the side notes besides that horrible thing to say.
	I thought we were on the left.
	What kind of kids?
	These are kids.
	They're not teenagers even.
	Okay.
	Here's Kimmel and his wife on about now, this is the typical way they think.
	And this is about, they bring in Fox News.
	I thought this was enlightening.
	Kimmel and Wife Fox News?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	They can watch Fox News all day, but the hard part for me, this is, it's a strange position to be in.
	It's like you personally know two humans in your life you're related to.
	Our jobs here, we don't tell lies.
	We tell jokes, but we are literally scouring the news every day, presenting people the facts, followed by jokes.
	And if you can't, why are you, to me, I go, why are you trusting that guy over me?
	This is exactly why late night television is dying is because everyone is a warrior.
	Just tell some jokes, show the movie clip, ask the scripted questions and move on.
	You know, she says that we're not lying.
	Kimmel lied probably with her writing about how it was a Trumper that killed Charlie Kirk, and it wasn't.
	That's a lie.
	She lies on this show when she says Trump fired Kimmel.
	Trump had nothing to do with firing Kimmel.
	He may have bitched and moaned, but he didn't fire him.
	He wasn't working for Trump.
	So they are liars, these two.
	And listen to the extent of it.
	By the self-brainwashing, this is Kimmel and wife on Kimmel's client.
	This is where Jimmy talks, which is rare in this interview, believe me.
	This is where Jimmy actually gets to talk.
	But his rant on climate is ludicrous.
	Biden wasn't president anymore.
	They're all over Trump and they'll be back to the other side when the other side is in charge.
	And it's just, it's all, it's a ruse to make as much money as they possibly can.
	And eventually, I think he's going to bite them in the ass also.
	I just don't think people are thinking in the long term and that the greater good is more important than individual good for the individual.
	Yeah, agreed.
	We even just, we look at what we do to the climate.
	It's like, hey, I can make a little bit more money if I burn as much fossil fuel as I possibly can.
	It's like, oh, that's great.
	It's going to be really hot and you're not going to have water.
	Trick-or-treating in a bikini.
	Your grandchildren are going to be living in a hellscape because you made a little bit more money this year.
	And I just don't, I think that we're going to, we're, as a society, going to look back at this time and we're going to be really angry at the people that made those decisions.
	All of us, not just the left.
	All of us are going to look back and go, what the hell did these people do to us?
	Things were going pretty good on this planet.
	And now look at where we are.
	It's really, you know, it's hard not to feel defeated.
	It really is.
	Do you think that he really means this?
	Or is this virtue signaling to the extreme?
	No, I think he means it.
	I think he's been completely taken in by it.
	Well, I'm not feeling good.
	Again, I'm not feeling good about this expose of yours.
	This makes me feel very, because, you know, there's less, but almost half of America must feel this way.
	Yes.
	They must speak.
	I think we have to come to grips with this.
	Oh, I've come to grips with it, but the confrontation is always saddening.
	Well, I consider it pathetic.
	So here's the last clip.
	And this is the clip.
	I think it's the last clip.
	It better be.
	This is the clip.
	Kimmel and wife.
	This is the final anecdote.
	This is the story about how they met the two lesbian, the lesbian couple next door, the famous lesbian, even though you mocked me for saying that.
	But the famous lesbian and her famous wife.
	Who's partner wife?
	I think they're married.
	I don't know.
	And don't care.
	And this indicates to me that Kimball's wife has got tons of problems.
	For one thing, she recognized these people on site and met.
	I'm going to give you this a briefing of what you're going to hear.
	Yes, it's a lot of setup.
	It's a big setup because it's the end.
	So she is, I'm just trying to get you into her mind frame.
	She knows who these lesbians are.
	And they're the most famous people in her life the way she sees it.
	And she kind of went nuts when she met them.
	And then she embarrassed herself in a way that is extremely insulting to Jimmy.
	And I don't know whether he gets it or not.
	He does make a little sound in here you'll hear.
	And she is a horrible person for doing saying what she's about to say.
	Here we go.
	More neighbors.
	And when you moved here, you DM'd us.
	Right.
	First of all, hold on one sec.
	Let's just go back.
	Before the DM happened, I had a full freak out seeing both of you guys outside.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes.
	It was quite annoying.
	It was really embarrassing.
	Now, I want to remind you that I've worked at this show for 23 years and we have, I've, I think, met every possible celebrity and political figure unfaced.
	I am on a walk.
	I see you too.
	And I just became undone.
	I didn't know what to do.
	I went, oh, hi, Lennon, Abby.
	Hi, hi.
	And then I did a thing that I never do, which I identified myself as Jimmy's wife, which is so gross.
	I prefer it.
	I said, hi, I'm Molly.
	And then you're like, who the hell is Molly?
	And I'm Jimmy Kimmel's wife.
	And I wanted to die.
	Yeah.
	Kimmel in that little back and forth says, I prefer it.
	I prefer it.
	Good luck.
	And it was like, she's also a showrunner, I should mention.
	She is that what she did there to him, I think was one of the most horrible things a woman could ever do.
	She was embarrassed that she was the wife of Jimmy Kimmel.
	And she was embarrassed to say that and humiliated by it.
	She is obviously doesn't like men, doesn't like her husband, and she doesn't like anything.
	She hates Republicans and she hates her own family.
	This is a horrible person.
	And she runs the Jimmy Kimmel show.
	So you wonder why the ratings are crap on that show.
	Yeah.
	What are they going to do after?
	Because eventually all late night is going to just has to go away.
	Well, they're going to have to get rid of these shows.
	And I mean, it's possible that The Last Man Standing can maintain enough numbers to stay in business.
	I mean, the tonight show.
	Yeah.
	But this has got to end.
	The North Sea Nexus Report.
	With Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
	See, we have jingle, so we can't change the name.
	But we're sticking with North Sea Nexus for now.
	John has a clip.
	Yeah, I heard this clip, and it was totally like the way it was played as a news item.
	It was done kind of missing the point that we brought up, and you, I think, in particular, brought up the fact that these, that these, I thought, or we may have both agreed on it almost simultaneously, that these attacks on these Venezuelan boats have got nothing to do with us, but it's a way to give it to the, to kind of put the screws to the North Sea Nexus.
	Because the drug running is the big industry and it all gets washed through the city of London banks.
	Which brought me back to a thought which I just kind of recollected, which is you mentioned there's a show that I tried to watch a couple of times.
	I was on Netflix.
	I'm not sure what it is, but it's a show about that, about this, I guess, some guy, king, or it's a royal show, but it's set in modern times.
	And in the background, that guy's growing marijuana.
	And this is a show you liked and liked it.
	I found it unwatchable.
	He inherits the estate and there's the growing marijuana on the estate.
	It's not known to him, unbeknownst to him at the time.
	Yes, I can't remember the name of it, but yes.
	Great show.
	It's a great show.
	Great show.
	Whose name is I watch a lot of shows?
	Well, that show, which I didn't find watchable, you liked it.
	I did.
	i liked it a lot and i it brought that was brought to mind when i heard this story but this is the this in if you think of the backdrop of this of our analysis that these venezuelan boats are headed to you basically headed to a transfer point so this stuff can go to europe not here uh It makes this story makes it very funny.
	This is the aha story, UK concerns.
	NPR.
	European countries have raised concerns about America's military buildup in the Caribbean, but Secretary of State Marco Rubio says no one brought it up with him at a G7 meeting in Canada, as NPR's Michelle Kelleman reports.
	Wrapping up his two-day visit to Canada, Secretary Rubio brushed off reports that the UK is withholding certain intelligence from the U.S. because of concerns about deadly strikes on alleged drug boats from Venezuela.
	We have very strong partnerships with the UK and other countries.
	Again, nothing has changed or happened that has impeded in any way our ability to do what we're doing, nor are we asking anyone to help us with what we're doing in any realm, and that includes military.
	Rubio says the U.S. has plenty of military assets in the region that can collect intelligence for what he calls a counter-narcotics campaign.
	And he says this issue never came up during his meetings with other G7 foreign ministers.
	Yeah, the show is called The Gentleman.
	It's a Guy Richie series.
	The gentleman.
	Right.
	The gentleman.
	So this, of course, everyone latched onto this knowing about the North Sea Nexus.
	My timeline was filled with it.
	And I love this because I didn't have this angle from Rubio saying, well, nothing has changed.
	That would make it harder for us.
	But the UK definitely let out a story.
	I don't think there was anyone on record saying, hey, you know, we don't want to participate.
	Knock it off.
	Knock it off.
	Listen to the CNN version of this.
	Just into the situation room.
	The United Kingdom is suspending some intelligence sharing with the United States because of the Trump administration's strikes against alleged drug boats in the Caribbean.
	Just into the situation room, by the way.
	CNN National Security correspondent Natasha Bertrand joins us with her exclusive reporting.
	So this is so significant, Natasha, because the UK is arguably the closest ally to the United States when it comes to intelligence sharing.
	And now on this issue, at least, it's pulling back, right?
	That's exactly right, Pam.
	So previously, the UK had been a very important intelligence sharing partner for the U.S. in the Caribbean, because, of course, the UK has a number of territories in the Caribbean.
	They have an interest in helping to stop the flow of drugs to the United States and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
	Okay, so when she says they have an interest in stopping it, what I hear is they obviously have an interest in moving the drugs to the U.S. and the Caribbean.
	In the Caribbean, because, of course, the U.K. has a number of territories in the Caribbean.
	They have an interest in helping to stop the flow of drugs to the United States and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
	But why do they have an interest in that?
	This is not explained.
	Why do they have an interest in stopping it?
	Obviously, she says.
	I don't know.
	Is that so obvious?
	I don't think so.
	It's not obvious to me either.
	The flow of drugs to the United States and to elsewhere in the Caribbean.
	And so they would often share intelligence, given the intelligence assets that they have down there, with the U.S. to help the U.S. Coast Guard interdict and arrest drug smugglers and also to seize all of the narcotics on board.
	But that changed when the U.S. military started actually blowing up these boats, using lethal force against these vessels.
	The UK was deeply uncomfortable with that, felt that it violated international law.
	And for that reason, it suspended that intelligence sharing with the U.S. just over a month ago, we're told, because it did not want its intelligence and its information being used by the U.S. military to carry out these kinds of lethal attacks.
	This is so incredible.
	Yeah, we don't want to use intelligence that gets people killed.
	What?
	You kill people over the entire world.
	We've done nothing but kill civilians and people everywhere with intelligence, but now, oh, no, oh, we can't kill these guys.
	By the way, when she says, you know, obviously they want to grab the drugs.
	Yeah, of course.
	Because once the officials have the drugs, it's much easier to distribute.
	I mean, you really have to think of it in these terms.
	And we've talked about the drug trade since the beginning of this show.
	I mean, do you remember when HSBC got fined because they were laundering all the Mexican cartel drug money into the U.S.?
	All of it?
	Oh, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of people.
	Yeah, right through the banks.
	Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in cash went in on the Mexican side and whoa, it's popped out on the other side.
	And then CNN gets really creative.
	Now, this comes amid a lot of skepticism, right?
	I mean, broadly from legal experts, as well as now we're seeing from the international community about the legality of this U.S. military campaign.
	Legality.
	We have reported previously that the U.S. Southern Command commander offered to resign last month because he had been raising questions about the legality of these strikes.
	Bullshit.
	And he is set to retire early next month.
	We got an inside track on that.
	The guy just retired early.
	He was just tired.
	At no point did he say, this is an outrage.
	We're killing civilians.
	I want out.
	It just didn't happen.
	It's one year into his tenure as the Southern Command Chief.
	And so there have been a lot of questions here about whether the U.S. military campaign is legal.
	It's not.
	Now we are actually seeing that play out in practice with the UK saying, we don't believe that these strikes are in keeping with international law.
	We believe that they are illegal.
	And we don't want to be complicit in them.
	That is really the key here.
	They don't want their information being used to target individuals on vessels that are then going to be killed who are in the UK's.
	These are our employees.
	Stop killing them.
	And civilians, of course, the U.S. has argued that they are enemy combatants, and they don't want that to be on their hands.
	And so now we are seeing the suspension of intelligence sharing.
	Unclear how long that's actually going to last, but there's a lot of ambivalence here about the U.S. military's operations, both in the Caribbean and increasingly in the Eastern Pacific.
	So why don't we listen to the BBC and see how the BBC positioned this?
	Now there are reports that Britain has stopped sharing intelligence with the U.S. in the Caribbean.
	Our State Department correspondent, Tom Bateman, is at the G7 meeting in Canada, from where he spoke to Justin Webb.
	I mean, my sense from the Americans is that I think this is happening.
	You won't get anyone to confirm it on the record because this is about intelligence sharing.
	But it seems that, you know, as the reports suggest, that the UK has declined to share certain limited amounts of intelligence with the Americans when it comes to something they were doing in the Caribbean, which was to pass on details of suspected drug smuggling boats to a task force in Florida.
	And it appears to be the case that that is not now happening.
	And the concern, I think, on the British side, according to the reporting, is that there is a concern this would be complicit in potentially illegal activity, as in the American strikes on alleged drug smuggling boats.
	And you will hear people say, well, the Brits actually, you know, don't contribute necessarily a huge amount there because the Americans are the dominant sort of military force there.
	But Britain does have naval assets there, and there is clearly some value to the intelligence in that region.
	I have never heard anything like this.
	I have never heard, there's never that I can recall been a report, oh, we're not sharing intelligence because, you know, you might be killing people.
	What?
	This is so clear to me.
	And there's a second part to this.
	Give us a sense of the scale of it.
	We know that Donald Trump has been attacking these boats, and we know that Donald Trump has been attacking these boats.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, Trump is flying over with jets himself.
	Give us a sense of the scale of it.
	We know that Donald Trump has been attacking these boats, and we know that his administration has defended the attacks on them.
	What is actually happening and what are they intending to do?
	Well, what they've done so far is they've blown up at least 19 of these small boats, killing more than 70 people.
	The Trump administration says that these are, in their words, narco-terrorists, that they're people that are delivering drugs to America that are killing in each boat.
	They say 25,000 people will be killed by the drugs on each boat, although those numbers simply don't stack up at all if you look at the numbers that die from fentanyl overdoses each year, for example.
	And their view is very strongly.
	See, here they're very cavalier.
	It's like, it's not that many people.
	What's your problem?
	I mean, we can't kill 70 drug runners.
	We've got to stop intel sharing.
	But 25,000, those numbers don't stack up.
	Simply don't stack up at all.
	Well, what he's doing is he's extrapolating that, say, approximately 20 boats that were blowing up, and each one would be 25,000 people times 20 is more than the annual death toll.
	Right.
	Just mathematically, but it's like, okay, this is another Trump lie, I guess.
	Each boat, although those numbers simply don't stack up at all if you look at the numbers that die from fentanyl overdoses each year, for example.
	And their view is very strongly that this is a war on America by Latin American drugs cartels and that it then therefore justifies the extension of terrorism designations and effectively the use of the laws of armed conflict against drug smugglers.
	The counterargument, and we've heard this from a lot of lawmakers on Capitol Hill, is that this is both in breach of American and international law because this is a criminal enterprise that should be dealt with as it was before through law enforcement.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So all of a sudden now the BBC.
	So I'm going to reach back to the end of the last show because there's a couple of things that happened with this report that came out.
	And the report, you can call it a whistleblower, I guess, but it was really someone, this guy, what's his name?
	His name evades me at the moment.
	He was on the editorial board for the BBC and he had written several times to the Muckany Muck saying, hey, you know, there's a lot wrong.
	The Telegraph revealed all this.
	What is the guy's name here?
	Prescott, there you go.
	He was an independent advisor to the BBC's Editorial Guidelines and Standards Board.
	And he highlighted in a very lengthy memo, link in show notes, very lengthy, a number of issues with the BBC's reporting.
	And we have to know that we have to recall that the BBC is a worldwide news organization.
	They got BBC America, which it is quite big.
	And a lot of other organizations look to the BBC, will refer to the BBC as an authority.
	They're seen by the British as the highest of high authority.
	Forget Savile and all the other pedophiles they found inside the BBC.
	Okay, we'll just shove that to the side.
	You know, they pay a specific, why not?
	They pay an annual fee.
	It's a license fee.
	And that was done.
	The British public.
	Yes, specifically, I think it's about- You have to pay a license fee in England to watch TV.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and that was done specifically so that it was not tied to taxes so that what could, of course, what happened here is, oh, we defunded NPR and PBS.
	We didn't really, but just 1% by their own admission.
	But they didn't want it ever to become political.
	So this is the, and the BBC World Service, I mean, this is a very, very large organization.
	A lot of news organizations look to the BBC.
	And BBC has a partnership they entered into in 2021 with CBS News.
	So there's news sharing, which is incredibly dangerous when you think about it.
	I don't know what Barry Weiss will do about it.
	Nothing.
	Probably not.
	So I'm just going to replay this.
	I've tightened it up a little bit.
	This is the Donald Trump January 6th edit.
	And then there's a couple other things I need to highlight about this very, very highbrow BBC reporting outfit.
	Well, it's the biggest story in town.
	It turns out American President Donald Trump was onto something.
	Where are you from?
	BBC.
	Here's another beauty.
	It's a good line.
	Impartial freedom fairs.
	Yeah, that's sure.
	Well, that criticism of the BBC and John Sopol, he was talking to there, apparently was well-founded because a so-called impartial and accurate public service broadcaster is nothing but.
	Because tonight, the BBC is facing serious questions over its credibility after the Daily Telegraph exposed a panorama segment that heavily doctored a speech by the American president in 2021, hours before the infamous January the 6th Capitol riot.
	As you're about to hear, the corporation spliced together two quotes one hour apart to make it seem like he encouraged an insurrection.
	They've played the following clip.
	We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you.
	And we fight.
	We fight like hell.
	But Trump didn't, in fact, say this at all.
	The BBC spliced together two clips that took place 54 minutes apart.
	So let's go through it again.
	We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you.
	Now, see there, between Capitol and and, that's a cut.
	Here's what Trump actually said.
	We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
	It's different.
	It wasn't until nearly an hour later that he then said the second part of the BBC's version.
	We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we fight.
	We fight like hell.
	That is damning.
	So the really interesting part of this is that this panorama segment aired on November 2nd worldwide, just days before the election.
	Yeah, the 2024 election.
	2024 election.
	Clearly meant to sway opinion.
	There's just no other way you can look at it.
	Right.
	Now, if we continue with this telegraph reveal, the dossier, there's a lot of other things that the BBC has been reporting on falsely, knowingly falsely.
	In April and June 2024, the BBC published two stories about the discovery of mass graves at Al-Nasser and al-Shifa hospitals.
	You remember this story?
	In Gaza.
	According to the internal BBC dossier, the article strongly implied that Israeli forces had buried bodies at both sites prior to withdrawing from the area.
	The articles also mentioned alleged evidence of war crimes, including bodies found with their hands tied and gunshot wounds to their heads.
	But the BBC's own editorial standards committee was told that this narrative was wrong.
	The memo says that the most likely explanation is that the mass graves were dug by Palestinians themselves and the people buried there had died or been killed prior to the arrival of the Israeli ground forces.
	So the BBC made a mistake.
	Well, perhaps.
	But the committee argues that the broadcaster knew that Palestinians were burying their dead at these sites before the Israeli raids.
	Whatever your personal views may be on the actions of Israel in Gaza, implying a country committed war crimes when there is evidence to the contrary has serious ramifications, not least because it could erode the credibility of genuine war crime claims at a later date.
	The very long Prescott memo also goes into the children death count, goes into the they're starving them.
	And the BBC actually would alter their reporting on their website.
	So it's like, well, the malnutrition, and then they would take out malnutrition a week later because it turned out that they had genetic issues.
	The BBC are just full of propagandistic liars.
	And it's not always by lying in your face.
	It's, of course, also often by omission.
	This internal BBC memo accuses the broadcaster of censoring its stories about the trans debate.
	In it, one of the BBC's own independent advisors repeatedly warns that the broadcaster is exhibiting serious and systemic problems.
	But in the case of the trans issue, it's not just how the content is reported or edited or framed.
	Instead, it's what audiences don't see that reveals the one-sided nature of their coverage.
	Now, this dossier describes in damning terms allegations that the BBC's specialist LGBTQ desk had been, quote, captured by a small group of people promoting the stonewall view of the debate and keeping other perspectives off air.
	The way the BBC works is that different news programs have to share a pool of reporters rather than having their own dedicated reporters, which means that for stories about LGBTQ issues, they have to use reporters from the LGBTQ desk.
	Crucially, though, the report claims that those reporters refuse to cover any stories that raise what are called difficult questions about the trans debate.
	The dossier goes as far as to allege that the BBC shares a constant drip feed of one-sided stories that celebrate the trans experience without adequate balance or objectivity.
	What?
	Gambling?
	Of course.
	This is the danger of a desk.
	How many times have we laughed about, we're going to peek now at the climate desk?
	Oh, of course.
	You have to use the climate desk to get your climate information and you get lies.
	Now, the timing of all of this is what interested me the most.
	Why now?
	And I think it is part of a counterattack against the North Sea Nexus.
	So we see now we're taking out their drug money.
	The Telegraph, which is the paper who do videos, apparently, the podcast, who reported all of this, they've been in some very serious trouble.
	They, in fact, went into receivership in 2023 when Lloyds Bank placed the parent company into receivership over unpaid debts exceeding £1 billion.
	In May of 2025, Redbird Capital Partners, which is a private equity firm, announced a 500 million pound deal to acquire full control with international media investments of Abu Dhabi to take a minority stake.
	That didn't go anywhere because, hey, we can't have a bunch of Abu Dhabis running the show.
	However, just in this month of November, Redbird secured funding from Apollo Global Management to acquire the Telegraph.
	Who is Apollo Global Management?
	Well, this isn't, we've talked about this outfit.
	This is the, I think one of the directors had to step down.
	Remember the Leon Black?
	He got kicked out of there for some nefarious activity.
	He was set up for something.
	I'm sure he was set up.
	But his co-founder, Mark Rowan, he still runs the show, and he's a friend of Trump.
	He and his wife donated a million dollars to Trump's 2020 presidential campaign.
	They helped finance Trump's casino ventures back in the day.
	He was actually up for Treasury Secretary before Scott Besson came in.
	So to me, this sounds like an obvious hit on the North Sea Nexus by Trump.
	He's going after him.
	Well, I should mention one of our producers is a Telegraph columnist.
	That's Andrew Orlowski.
	Ah.
	Have you spoken to him?
	Recently, I had a back and forth with him because he's come up with, he's the negative type of guy.
	Yes.
	And he's got a bunch of nasty stuff to say about AI.
	Yes.
	Well, he's my friend then.
	Yeah, well, he's our friend.
	He's the show's friend.
	And I will probably reiterate some of these things eventually.
	Good.
	So I came across an interview with Liz Trust.
	And Liz Trust was Prime Minister of the UK for, what, six weeks?
	A couple of minutes.
	She was in and out.
	And she's very open about what's really going on in the UK and who's really running the show.
	The deep state of the UK.
	Well, let's talk about the states, or more specifically, the deep states.
	Could you just stop Bank of England?
	Yes.
	Let me just stop and throw a comment in.
	Sure.
	Now, personally, I don't think the deep state is a deep state when it's the monarchy, which is the most upfront deep state you can imagine.
	I agree.
	It's not a deep state because it's not hiding.
	No, it's the surface state.
	Yeah.
	But I said deep state because the interviewer says deep state.
	Yeah, but it's that's why I wanted to interrupt because it's ludicrous to me that you'd call the monarchy the deep state.
	Well, also, know that if you look at the board of the boards of the BBC, who's on it?
	Lord such and such, sir.
	Poop it a peep.
	You know, these are these are all people who are, you know, who received knighthoods, you know, have peerage.
	I mean, this is the extended monarchy, which, of course, initially got all of its money from the East India Company, the West India Company.
	And the taxpayers.
	And the taxpayers.
	And they're still mad about America.
	They really wanted it to be part of their empire.
	And we broke away from it.
	Of course, it was.
	Initially, yeah, okay, the pilgrims came over and they ran away because of religious issues and they wanted to make this into a big Christian land and they didn't want the king being the head of the church.
	But it was still Britain.
	It was still the British tobacco company.
	I mean, that's how it started.
	But they always saw us as one of their colonies and they really never gotten over the fact that, you know, we're not a part of them.
	They gave them the finger and walk.
	Yeah, we basically gave them the finger.
	Well, let's talk about the states or more specifically the deep states.
	You say the Bank of England sabotaged you.
	The Treasury is the state.
	Hold on a second.
	I didn't hear that part.
	So the Bank of England is a deep state too.
	Yeah, well, probably.
	How is that deep state?
	This is upfront.
	This is face forward.
	We need a better term.
	I'm in total agreement.
	But it's the Bank of England.
	Of course it is.
	You can only imagine who runs all that.
	Tell me, tell our viewers and listeners about this deep state and the people who really are controlling our governments.
	I think it's important for people to understand because people think the prime minister is all-powerful or the chancellor is all-powerful and they can go into government and they can just pull the levers and things will happen.
	But actually, the government is controlled by the permanent bureaucracy, by the civil service.
	It's them who hire and fire the people that work in the government.
	They control the budgets of each government department.
	They make the decisions about how policies are implemented.
	So even if a policy has been signed off by a minister, it's a civil servant who says whether it's legal, it's a civil servant who implements it.
	It's a civil servant who signs off the budget for it.
	And that gives those people a lot of power.
	Now, the Bank of England governor has what I would describe as unaccountable power.
	He's appointed for eight years.
	He can pretty much only be sacked for gross negligence.
	So he is able to make decisions about the economy independent of the elected government that have massive implications for people's lives.
	So what has happened, and it's got particularly bad in the last 30 years since Tony Blair got into office, is lots of power that used to sit in the hands of elected people now sits in the hands of the unelected.
	This whole interview gave me a different view of Liz Truss because, you know, I really thought, and she just like a spot on your shirt who was, you know, we wiped her away and she was gone.
	She kind of opened up here about the money, migration, all of it.
	They are making decisions about monetary policy.
	So what interest rates are, what how much money the Bank of England prints.
	That's a decision the Bank of England essentially makes.
	They're making decisions about fiscal policy.
	So if you look at the budget coming up, you'll hear a lot about the Office of Budget Responsibility, the OBR.
	They're the people that essentially set the tram lines which the Chancellor has to operate in.
	And the same is true, by the way, for things like migration.
	You know, there's an independent government legal department that decides what's legal and what's illegal.
	They are the people who are saying, sorry, but you've got to put these migrants up at four-star hotels.
	So what I'm saying is that this bureaucratic apparatus is there.
	It is essentially driving the decision-making of government.
	And ministers pretty much have to go along with it.
	So when she talks about the Bank of England, I hear the city of London, which is, you know, just like DC, it's its own city, has its own fire department, its own police force.
	They're their own little entity.
	Yeah, they're totally alien, totally separate.
	And they've had a lot of power over our interest rates.
	Of course, we cleared all that up going from LIBOR to Sophia.
	And this is her final clip.
	She really keeps talking about them as they, and they must be them.
	These are people, broadly speaking, the senior people in the Treasury, the senior people in the Bank of England.
	They believe in net zero.
	They believe in mass migration.
	They believe in Keynesian economics.
	They believe in high tax and high spend.
	They were responsible for printing vast amounts of money after the financial crisis during COVID.
	They inflated asset prices and made it very difficult for young people to get on in life.
	So they have a worldview.
	They're not neutral technocrats.
	They have a worldview.
	And we can see this worldview emerging.
	Which is worldview, I hear, globalist.
	I think that's what she means by that.
	From time to time.
	So Bailey has recently criticized Brexit.
	You know, he has promoted net zero.
	Mark Carney, who is the ultimate version of these people, you know, made lots of money out of the whole climate change agenda or what Donald Trump would call the climate change scam.
	He then went on to be Prime Minister of Canada and is busy ruining Canada's economy at the moment.
	So, you know, these people are not neutral experts.
	They are people with an agenda who have huge amounts of unelected power.
	So I don't know if Liz Truss really sees all the way through what Britain has been doing throughout history, but there's a guy who's getting a lot of traction right now on different podcasts, including my favorite, Guns, Goats, Gold, Goats, and Guns, our buddy Tom Longo.
	This guy's name is Richard Poe.
	And in January of this year, he released his book.
	He has a new one coming out in a couple of weeks.
	His book is How the British Invented Communism and Blamed the Jews, which is a really, really good book.
	And he goes through this entire history.
	That's a great title.
	It's fantastic.
	How they started the Bolshevik, the Brits sparked the Bolshevik revolution, blamed it on the Jews, how Churchill was writing about this in the 20s.
	And it was, in fact, Churchill who inspired Hitler for a lot of what he wrote in Mein Kampf.
	And he has a new book coming out titled How the British Kill Our Presidents, which I'm excited to read, particularly Lincoln is where he starts.
	So he was on the Lincoln theory.
	I've always had this belief that it was either the British or the French that were behind the assassination of Lincoln.
	But thinking it's the British, which I never considered, makes a lot of sense considering it was an actor.
	Yep.
	Who had a British background?
	As an actor, of course.
	A stage actor, which are typically all, you know, that's British that killed him.
	So it makes some sense.
	Yes.
	Now I have to read this guy.
	Why don't you read it and summarize?
	Okay.
	I'll just prop it into ChatGPT and I'll give you a summary with nice little icons next to every chapter.
	So this is a piece from this interview.
	And I suggest everyone listen to this guy.
	He's all over the place, but the gold goats and guns podcast had him on.
	And this is where he now is going to the British and the French Revolution.
	But first he sets up this concept, which I think is brilliant because it feels so old yet so current, how the British invented the whole idea of using NGOs.
	It's very clear that the British had set up a massive infrastructure of what we'd now called, we would now call them NGOs of supposedly independent groups which had been created by citizens and were not supposedly run by the government.
	But these were groups which had such names as the London Revolution Society, the London Correspondent Society.
	And this is what they did with the French Revolution, with these NGOs.
	The French liberals, the ones who got the French intellectuals who got behind the revolution, they worshiped these British reformers, these English groups that were pushing for Republican revolution all over the world.
	And the French naively just adopted this British program and really kind of worshipped these people to the point where the French started in emulation of these British groups, the French started their own parallel groups with similar names.
	There was a revolutionary society in Paris that they created, and then they created these Jacobin clubs, they called them.
	The British did the same thing to the French that they later did to Russia.
	They recruited all the liberals.
	They used the liberals to give them an inn, to give their agents and their operatives an inn into the French government, into the French elite.
	And then they betrayed the French people by giving them an extremely illiberal government and a bloodbath.
	It sounds so believable.
	Just, I love it.
	And of course, it does.
	It sounds really believable.
	And it explains a lot.
	And same goes for secret societies.
	These 1848 revolutions were personally masterminded by Lord Palmerston.
	He was really setting all the policy, the foreign policy, and he was running this tremendous spy network all over Europe and also America.
	The cover for his spy network was a network of, they're sometimes called secret societies.
	All right.
	And so here's this final clip where Luongo also kind of latches on to, oh, hold on a second.
	The first one is called Young Italy.
	It was formed by an Italian revolutionary named Giuseppe Mazzini, who was a British agent.
	And he started Young Italy, which was supposed to organize revolution in Italy and moving towards the unification of Italy, which was a British goal.
	They wanted to unify Italy to be a counterweight against the influence of France and Austria.
	And after Young Italy, Mazzini then founded Young Europe and then started creating spin-off groups in every country, young France, young Germany, young Poland.
	There was a young England, and there was a young America.
	And I show in my book that it was from this young America branch of the Mazzini network that the whole conspiracy to cause the Civil War, to cause the secession and then ultimately to kill Lincoln all came out of this young America group.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Well, it's good stuff.
	It makes so much sense.
	And, you know, it's the same system we see today.
	We've got NGOs everywhere.
	Now, a lot of that's been cleaned up because the funding got cut off.
	We also, you know, the secret societies, there's still the Pilgrim Society out there.
	You know, you got to wonder.
	Well, that, you know, I've been trying to get confirmation on that.
	I can't.
	There's been a lot of accusations and a lot.
	It's, you know, there's lots of ex-posts on it.
	But the Pilgrim Society is kind of the same idea, one of those secret societies.
	And the whole idea is to move the British agenda forward of global domination.
	I even wonder about Elon sometimes.
	You know, there was the British always had this idea of let's create a super state of all the English-speaking nations.
	And I think Elon floated that a while back ago.
	And just out of the blue, he's like, hey, shouldn't we make just like one big state?
	Everyone who speaks English, like, oh, Elon's a suspect.
	But so the bottom line is, it doesn't matter whether it's podcasts, whether it's the BBC, you really can't trust any of it.
	And you shouldn't trust us either.
	Although I would say we'd be really happy if we got some secret society NGO money.
	That's just not in the cards.
	But there's also, we place so much importance on people as experts.
	And this is where the...
	Yeah, that's where...
	Well, I discovered this.
	I think about 10 years ago on the show, I mentioned this.
	I went to an event head by Edelman and Edelman PR.
	Yes.
	Edelman PR, the big boys.
	And they gave a long speech about trustworthiness and voices of trust.
	And I watched the whole thing and it was a live presentation and they had a slideshow and it all turned out to be that the most trusted voices come from NGOs.
	There it is.
	And I'm sure that they said that for a reason.
	Yeah, you can trust these guys.
	And so that's where you have a lot of NGOs representing various organizations and they could go the so-and-so from the such and such society says this and here he is.
	Yes.
	And he has blurts out something that everyone's, oh, okay.
	Well, like you pointed out one time, the phony baloney surveys and some of the research done paid for by the guy who wants the survey to come out a certain way.
	And you keep paying money until somebody does it right.
	Yes.
	So then we have, and I'm just pointing this out as a public service to our listeners.
	You have the Gelman amnesia effect, which needs to be brought up from time to time.
	And this is because I saw Brett Weinstein on the Joe Rogan podcast.
	I didn't actually see the podcast.
	I saw the clips everywhere.
	And the clips would say like, expert says, you know, COVID was a hoax.
	Okay, fine, whatever.
	Expert says, you know, like expert, expert.
	And yeah, sure.
	And I like Brett Weinstein.
	I've never met him, but, you know, he seems like a nice enough guy.
	I love the podcast that he does with Heather because just because of how Heather talks.
	And to prove the Gelman amnesia effect, which you always need to see it this way.
	If you are reading a newspaper and an article shows up of something you are absolutely an expert in, and everyone's an expert in something, and be like, huh, that's not entirely right, or they got that wrong, or boy, this is a load of crap.
	I have that often with aviation stuff and other things.
	You should not believe the story next to it.
	That's the amnesia.
	Like, oh, but this, this has got to be true if I'm reading it over here.
	So just, and this is not to pick on Brett and Heather.
	Yeah, let me read you the overview definition of Gelman is two words.
	Yeah, Gelman.
	The Gelman amnesia effect is a cognitive bias where individuals readily recognize inaccuracy in media reports on subjects they know well, but then forget this unreliability and accept as true other articles in the same publication on topics in which they're not experts.
	Exactly.
	And it was coined by Michael Crichton.
	Who they killed.
	Well, somebody died premium.
	He died in an early sudden death.
	Sudden death.
	So here they are.
	They're on episode 300.
	This is just yesterday.
	And Tina sent me this link.
	And I normally would not bring it up, but in this context, it's great because I am one expert in something very specific.
	I'm an expert in the origins of podcasting.
	Would you say that?
	I would think, I would agree with that.
	So when I hear these two experts speaking this way, I have to question everything else that they talk about.
	Again, not picking on them.
	I like them.
	I like the show.
	I love how Heather talks.
	And I just, I actually just wanted to, um, it turns out, uh, you'll hear it in a moment.
	She used to be on This American Life.
	To share, not my screen here, but my notes that I wrote in advance of our first live stream.
	i should i should say this is not um this this is not the sort of thing that i tend to in fact at the point that podcasts started being a thing and thing and i don't even know when it would have been maybe early teens Early teens?
	How about 2003?
	Right.
	Yeah, at some point.
	I mean, there had been things that weren't called podcasts for a long time.
	I remember actually recording episodes of This American Life in the 90s and taking them with me to Madagascar so that I could listen to them.
	Oh, yes.
	I remember I remember recording This American Life on a cassette and taking it to Madagascar, really an early form of podcasting.
	So it's really all not that.
	And it just came around in the teens.
	Sort of, you know, long-form conversations in that conversation.
	Wait, what does she draft a drink?
	What does the price of bread have to do with her trip to Madagascar?
	I was expecting you to say, I was on my way to Doha, but I went to Madagascar.
	Yes, I had a meeting with it with a chic.
	Went to Madagascar first.
	Yes, that was called a radio show that we recorded on a cassette.
	But yes, this predates podcasting from what was it, the teens?
	Yes.
	For a long time, I remember actually recording episodes of This American Life in the 90s and taking them with me to Madagascar so that I could listen to them.
	So sort of, you know, long-form conversations in that case, you know, highly scripted and beautifully put together.
	Well, that's not a podcast.
	What?
	Going on for a long time, but I remember you making a joking comment to me at some point in the early teens about it.
	That's when the podcasting started.
	Early teens.
	Podcasting had to be last on my list of things I would ever want to do since I prefer not to be in front of a camera and just kind of riffing.
	Okay.
	Let me just give you the abbreviated version of history when I convinced Dave Weiner in 2000 to put the enclosure tag into RSS.
	And it actually worked for several years, but there was nothing until I sort of saw the first iPod and then created a script that basically put a recorded MP3 file onto your iPod and instead of a song and the album was the show title instead of the album title.
	And that was the birth of podcasting in 2003.
	And it wasn't until probably about two years later that a guy came along and said, hey, why don't we call it podcasting?
	And it wasn't that idiot from the newspaper.
	But anyway, he says he did.
	But it doesn't matter.
	These are the experts and they're about to tell you the origins of podcasting.
	So I don't know what the date was.
	Possibly we could look it up, but I believe the initial podcast is Adam Curry, the podfather.
	The initial podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So this is interesting.
	So first of all, he skipped over the entire creation of the whole mechanism because it wasn't just a recording on the internet.
	The RSS feed was key to this.
	Yeah, but that's a detail they're never going to get.
	Well, but it's incorrect.
	And what I like about it is that somehow, somewhere, we have indoctrinated Heather's mind that the No Agenda show is the best podcast in the universe because she says, oh, yeah, that was the first podcast in the universe.
	We have infected her.
	We are inside her brain somewhere.
	Possibly because somehow it got in there and got scrambled because obviously this is going back to the Gelman amnesia concept.
	This is how it works.
	You get this information.
	It's a mishmash.
	One of the things I have to say to people that listen to our show is that we are susceptible to this too.
	Absolutely.
	But we have nothing but feedback.
	We get tons of it.
	We look at it all.
	We sift it and we change.
	We make corrections and we try to reflect reality as best we can.
	I think better than anybody else, to be honest about it.
	And that's because we have thousands and thousands of producers.
	Producers, do we have them online live as we speak?
	Yep.
	That allow Adam to sound funny because he steals the material from the chat room.
	I do.
	It's not stealing.
	It's given to me freely, value for value.
	He has writers on the fly.
	He's got writers in his ear, by the way.
	I did a radio show in Canada once, and it was, I forgot the name of it.
	It was very famous at the time.
	And the entire, the hosts of this show, of this radio show, it wasn't televised, but it was, I don't believe.
	But the hosts had IFBs in, and as they spoke spontaneously, they had producers in the back telling them what to say and what to ask.
	Yes, here's your line for this.
	Which is what you mock all the time on this show, which is a good, it's a funny bit.
	It says hilarious.
	Nobody else seems to be able to do this gag.
	But this actually does happen.
	You have it to an extreme.
	They were looking stuff up and making the guy sound smart.
	Yep.
	Well, Heather doesn't have that, but I am in the future.
	Obviously, I think it was the podfather.
	So I don't know what the date was.
	It's possible we could look it up.
	I believe the initial podcast is Adam Curry.
	I am the initial podcast, just so you know.
	I am the initial podcast.
	Oh, you are a podcast.
	Yes, he's the initial podcast.
	The podfather.
	Yes, good.
	The initial podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, the initial.
	Wait, she said the initial podcast in the universe.
	Yes, the initial.
	Yeah.
	Nice botch there.
	Yeah, but we're in her head.
	We're in her head.
	Somebody's in her head.
	Yeah.
	Heather.
	The initial podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think it's at least the first place that it was called that.
	Obviously, you're right.
	There are precursors in this.
	No, now, see, this is my point.
	This is freewheeling.
	That, you know, Beatles movies are sort of precursors to modern music videos.
	Oh, I was, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the Beatles of podcasting.
	This is what I like.
	And this is where it gets crazy.
	They said it was called that.
	Obviously, you're right.
	There are precursors in the same way that, you know, Beatles movies are sort of precursors to modern music videos, if modern music videos are even still a thing.
	And this is where I'm living in her head, rent-free.
	He used to be on MTV.
	MTV is either about to or has gone off the air.
	Yeah, he was on MTV, don't you remember?
	Apparently, nobody wanted their MTV.
	I ran into that recently.
	Yeah, like with a whimper, apparently no one has noticed.
	Yes, no one has.
	Well, it makes sense.
	People have moved on to this.
	You like his podcast, you said?
	I like them.
	I'm not so sure.
	They're just rambling about meaningless drivel.
	Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.
	Anyway, let me play this last bit from.
	Well, how did we get from the Nexus to these two?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I had to take it to part of it.
	You transitioned.
	You caught me off guard.
	I'm completely flat-footed in how you pulled that one off.
	I'll take you back and I'll finish it up.
	I'm going to wind up here with the end of the North Sea Nexus.
	We go back to the British controlling everything.
	You talk about the revolutions of 1848.
	I don't like to think it was the Arab Spring under Obama.
	It's the same thing.
	And we know we know the Muslim Brotherhood is a city of London creation.
	And we know all these things.
	And they're running the same playbook here in the United States right now.
	Exactly.
	There you go.
	More to come.
	Just stay tuned.
	Gloria come with Adam Curry.
	But me, I left out of the jingle.
	Well, because you're another example, ladies and gentlemen.
	I didn't create the jingle.
	Was it Judith?
	What's her name?
	Judith?
	Who wrote earlier?
	Heather?
	Heather.
	No, Heather.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Julie.
	Julie.
	Good old Julie.
	Julie.
	Julie, keep noticing.
	By the way, as a correction, because we do get corrected and we attempt to make these corrections, the news about the farmers almanac was wrong.
	It appears that there were more than one farmer's almanacs.
	Didn't we mention this?
	The old farmer's almanac, the almanac, the farmers?
	No, no, this came in after the show.
	The old arm, the OG original farmer's almanac has been in print and continues strong after 234 years at almanac.com.
	The younger upstart only reached 208 years.
	Fake news.
	That's from Scott, who works for a publisher that handles.
	Oh, you just missed.
	Okay, this came in.
	I remember it because you talked about it after the show because you got a note.
	Yeah, I brought it up on Horowitz's show.
	Yeah.
	Fake me had the same story, and I had luckily had the old Farmer's Almanac anecdote in tow.
	Yes.
	And so I got to drop it on him.
	And then you go, oh, okay, whatever.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	It was fake news.
	But sold.
	Oh, geez.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's switch gears for a moment.
	I'll try not to bore you.
	The clips are short.
	Oh, you know.
	Okay.
	So, what you've done, this is like that.
	You might not think this is funny.
	You've set yourself up to fail.
	No.
	You'll like it.
	You'll like this.
	Because I know when I say COP30, you're like, yes, climate change.
	So just to get a little update, because there's some very interesting news here.
	Al Gore presented at COP 30, and he still has kind of a baby face, even though he's got to be what is he now, 75?
	I think he's about 89.
	No, no, no.
	Let's see.
	How old is he?
	I'll guess 78.
	78 sounds right.
	77.
	Close.
	All right.
	So here he is.
	Here's his pitch.
	And here we are at COP 30, which is kind of a full circle moment.
	And of course, the purpose is to deal with the climate crisis.
	And this thin blue shell of atmosphere surrounding our planet is so thin it's only five to seven kilometers thick.
	It's blue because that's where the oxygen is.
	And we are using it as an open sewer for 175 million tons of man-made global warming pollution spewed into it every single day.
	It adds up, it lingers there, and the accumulated amount today will trap as much extra heat as would be released by 750,000 atomic bombs exploding on the earth.
	Not a game.
	Every 24 hours.
	Well, now this is why I brought this up because we have been tracking this.
	We have the number of bombs that were simultaneously every day.
	In 2015, it was 400 Hiroshima bombs, if you recall.
	As would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima class atomic bombs exploding.
	400,000.
	We just got the update.
	It is 750,000.
	But wait, that's the same number as 2024.
	We're building up the amount of heat trapping capacity so much that today we trapped as much extra heat as would be released by 750,000 Hiroshima class atomic bombs.
	So it's stable.
	We're leveling off.
	So this is good news.
	I don't see why Al hasn't said this.
	We have remained at 750,000 Hiroshima nuclear bombs.
	So I found this to be encouraging.
	That's your COP30 update.
	There's also Newsom was down there moaning about.
	Oh, he was moaning about all kinds of stuff.
	I know.
	I know.
	So I'm thinking that the, because I have the in the newsletter, I discussed the idea that this whole shutdown was just a scam to get these Democrats elected.
	And Schumer, Schumer did it.
	He was behind the whole thing.
	He was behind the whole thing stopping.
	And they, but he's being condemned from what, because he can't admit he did that because it didn't.
	Yes.
	So he has to suffer, but he knows the ropes.
	He's not, you know, people think he's just some dumb shitty.
	No, this guy is not the head of the Senate because he's a dummy.
	And so he knows the ropes and he knows it'll blow over and he can put up with it.
	And there's nobody waiting in the wings to take his job as minority leader.
	There's not one person anyone can name.
	And the guys who could do it, like Dick Durbin, are on his side and they're behind doing these schemes.
	So it's nothing's going on there.
	And so I thought about this and I thought that the that there is a threat in 2028 that AOC will run against him when he's up for reelection.
	And everyone keeps saying that, oh, she's going to take his job because the progressives have got a hold on the party and blah, blah, blah.
	Take his job.
	So I'm thinking, and I didn't discuss this part in the newsletter, but I'm thinking about it.
	Yeah.
	Is that he has to derail her because he doesn't need the aggravation of getting unseated by a dumb shit like her.
	And so he's got, so I think here's what I think the scheme is the following.
	The Republicans know they're going to have nothing unless they can crash the economy before the end of 28, which is doable, but I don't think they can accomplish it because Trump's pretty good at keeping things running.
	They're going to have to put up a weak sister candidate and hope they can crash the economy after the next president, which will probably be J.P. Hold on a second.
	Why do they want to crash the economy?
	Because then they'll get votes.
	If the Republicans are in power and the economy goes crashing, this is what happened to George W. H.W. Bush when he was first term as president.
	He came in right after Reagan.
	He should have been re-elected, but they managed to crash the economy for just a blip just before the election.
	And he had to increase taxes and they threw the read my lips stuff and all the rest of it because he said, read my lips, no new taxes.
	And then he had to raise taxes because the economy was being tanked by the Democrats.
	So he raised taxes and they threw that in his face.
	And the guy couldn't, and then he, of course, threw up the lap of the Japanese prime minister.
	That was fantastic.
	Let me, excuse me, I got to throw up.
	So let me throw up in your lap.
	And so this was, somebody gave him something.
	I'm sure he was poisoned.
	So he had to throw up.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so they set him up and got rid of him.
	And, you know, the guy was that, he was a sucker.
	And so they, so they wanted, so that's what the Democrats like to do.
	Oh, you said the Democrats like to crash the economy.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I thought you said the Republicans.
	No, no, no.
	The Democrats, because that gets them back in power.
	Ah, okay.
	Because that's the only way they can get back in power.
	Got it.
	And I got it.
	So they're going to have to eat it for if JD Vance or Rubio becomes the next president.
	And they know that they won't be able to defeat anybody if Trump stays in office and manages to get things on track.
	So they're going to have to run, and this would be Schumer again.
	They're going to have to run a loser for another Camela.
	A sacrificial lamb is going to have to be at the top of the ticket.
	And that is Newsom.
	Who is this best?
	Who do you want to put in as vice president to balance the ticket?
	An East Coast person to balance the California ticket?
	A woman?
	Because you have to have a woman.
	You're a Democrat.
	And you might as well go with, you know, because Whitey here running for president.
	You're going to put AOC next to him?
	Yeah.
	Newsome AOC.
	So you got to.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	No, wait, wait, wait.
	This show has to end sometime.
	I mean, if they're running on a ticket in 2028, we have to continue.
	It'll be so much fun.
	You pass the election.
	That's easy enough.
	Neither of us gets out of this gig alive, is what I've determined.
	Well, died on the mic.
	So they're going to run.
	It'll be Newsome AOC ticket is a loser.
	And it gets AOC out of the picture for running against Schumer.
	But Schumer, Schumer's got to be tired at a certain point.
	How old is that guy?
	I don't know.
	You know, maybe he should retire, but he doesn't seem interested.
	He is currently 74.
	He got some spunk left in him.
	He can get to 80.
	I mean, look at Pelosi.
	She's 83, 82, 84, something like that.
	And she's still in.
	She's in.
	I mean, she's not running again, she says, but she's in the mix.
	I think this is really it.
	She's really out.
	Yeah, she broke her hip.
	I think that did the trick.
	That's painful.
	So Schumer will orchestrate this.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Schumer orchestrates a Newsome AOC ticket.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	Do you have a clip to go with this or are you just throwing it?
	No, this is all speculation.
	Nobody wants to give Schumer credit for anything.
	He's like, they sideline the guy, and he acts like a doofus.
	And in fact, he's running the show.
	He's one of those guys who does it so slickly.
	And, oh, I don't know.
	I'm just a big dummy.
	No, he's no dummy.
	He's no dummy.
	He's no dummy.
	It's too bad that the shutdown ended because it was just getting good in the media.
	Listen to this nat pop I got.
	This is from Reuters.
	And this is unbelievable what they did.
	They went out to find some snap benefits recipients who, of course, are starving.
	11-year-old Cincere Miller at the food bank with his grandmother places his blame squarely with the president.
	Trump, why are you starving the kids?
	I'm hungry.
	And we have to get boxes from the food bank.
	This is a scripted kid.
	This is the clip, but that is the clip of the day.
	Right there.
	I thought you would say that.
	Let's listen to that kid one more time.
	Trump, why are you starving the kids?
	I'm hungry.
	And we have to get boxes from the food bank.
	Oh, man.
	And of course, we'll get no, you guys are horrible.
	You're laughing about hungry people.
	We're not going to get that much.
	That kid was scripted.
	He's a phony.
	That kid was a phony.
	Now, there is something rather troubling, again, from Reuters, you know, British outfits, so take it for what it's worth, which was also brought up by Representative Austin Smith of Georgia.
	I'll play the Reuters report first.
	The funding bill being voted on includes a clause that would let Republican senators sue for half a million dollars for damages related to the January 6th probe.
	It would apply to eight lawmakers whose phone records were subpoenaed as part of the investigation into the 2021 Capitol riot.
	Democrats are calling it a taxpayer-funded payout.
	And it sure seems like it's a tax-funded payout, which is, and this is like a mandatory thing.
	Here's Austin Smith, Republican of Georgia, talking about it.
	I was very excited about coming back to Washington, D.C. to vote to open the government back up.
	And then when I saw what the Senate did last night, I'll be on, I had a hard night.
	I've been struggling with what the right vote is because of what the Senate did.
	And I want to just tell you, because I want the American citizens to be able to read it, you can start at page 217 of the legislation where it says requiring Senate notification for disclosure of Senate data.
	And there's a lot of with respect to's and other things in the first pages.
	But when you get over to page 223, you'll see where they've created a private cause of action specifically for them.
	And it goes on and it says that cause of action, and this is on page 224: any senator whose Senate data or the Senate data of whose Senate office has been acquired, subpoenaed, searched, accessed, or disclosed in violation of this section may bring a civil action against the United States if the violation was committed by an officer, employer, agent of the United States, or of any federal department or agency.
	Relief.
	If the senator prevails on a claimant on this subject, the court shall, not may, shall award for each instance of a violation of this section the greater of, not the lesser of, the greater of statutory damages of $500,000 or the amount of actual damages, reasonable attorney fees, cost of litigation.
	And it goes on from there.
	And there's other language in here, too, that indicates that each line would be an additional payment.
	And so most of us as members have a campaign phone, a campaign email, a personal phone, a personal email, and then a business phone and a business email.
	That's six violations, the way they count them.
	If they went for all of them, six.
	Minimum of $500,000 a piece.
	Yeah, I don't like that.
	Well, Luna came on one of the shows yesterday, and she voted for the bill, but she also bitched about this.
	She said, because the House had a number of people whose records were lifted also, and also a bunch of organizations had their records lifted illegally, also, and none of them are listed in the payout.
	Right.
	So if you're going to like steal from the government coffers, you might at least can you pass it around a little bit?
	So a lot of people are irked about this.
	No kidding.
	And it's irksome.
	I agree.
	Yeah, I don't like that at all.
	I don't know who'd slip that is.
	It sounds like a Lindsey Graham thing.
	It does.
	By the way, I just got a note that the Republicans will be doing a midterm convention.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, I think that's Trump's idea.
	Of course, it's Trump's idea.
	Show business, baby.
	Yeah, because it's because they note that during the conventions, because everyone knows this has been, I think people have known this since the 50s and 60s since television came around, that they have one of these conventions and everyone gets to speak and they make a big fuss and everyone gets all jacked up.
	Wave our flag.
	You end up with the ratings for the party go up.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	So the Democrats will have to follow suit.
	Yeah, well, they're a little behind the ball.
	They got to hurry up with that.
	They may not, you know, it may take them a cycle to come up to speed.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Let's see.
	What else do we have?
	Well, what do I have?
	A little update on New York about Momdani.
	He's been announcing some of the people he's going to bring into his administration.
	You hear about this?
	I know he's got a woman crew for his Transition team.
	That's windy.
	Transition being the operative word.
	That's window drill.
	And then he's begging.
	I know he's begging for money.
	Yeah, check this out.
	Breaking news.
	Mayor Electronic Mamdani is making his first major appointment, announcing Dean Fullion as his first deputy mayor.
	Fullion is a seasoned government veteran who previously served as former Mayor Bill de Blasio's budget director and later as first deputy mayor.
	Mamdani also named L. Bizgard Church, his longtime chief of staff at the state assembly, to that same role at City Hall.
	In his announcement at Hunter College, Mr. Momdani said the appointments would help him build a powerful and competent administration that delivers an affordable, livable city for working people.
	Momdani takes office January 1st.
	There you go.
	The de Blasio team.
	Yep.
	Yep, the de Blasio team.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's better than nothing.
	At least they got some.
	No, but they're the worst.
	They know how it works, at least.
	That's kind of good.
	Yeah, actually, they do need somebody who knows how it works because he doesn't.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Hey, you know, we had the Department of War guy over again on Tuesday night.
	Remember, I told you that we met some new people and they are with the he works for, he was, you know, furloughed, of course, and he works for the Department of War in the modern weapons department.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You mentioned him on the show.
	Yeah.
	So I'm like, so what are you making?
	Can you tell me anything?
	What do you think?
	What are they making?
	Yeah.
	What do you think?
	Have something to do with drones.
	All drones.
	All drones.
	And so I threw out there, yeah, you know, this stuff in Europe.
	And he, I said, this is obviously a sales job.
	He just gives me a look.
	He couldn't say anything.
	This is signs.
	He's signed off on things.
	He's not going to tell you.
	It's all drone anti-drone.
	I'm like, really?
	I mean, can't one ICBM, you know, do more damage?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, we're no longer going to be.
	Let me see if I can get this right the way he said it.
	No longer will it be like two teams in the field, you know, lobbying grenades and shooting at each other.
	He says it's all going to be urban warfare.
	With drones flying around the city, busting in the windows and coming up and blowing people's heads off.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And then there was, I got this from a Dutch producer.
	So it was a drone flying around Holland and it crashed.
	Well, it turns out it was just an American drone that the Dutch military was flying around.
	Little rocket tube-like shaped drone with wings and a propeller on the back.
	Everyone's flying.
	When did this happen?
	When did war just become about drones?
	Other than, I guess, all wars are going to be fought in cities, urban warfare.
	Really?
	Is that the future?
	Good reason not to live in a city, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Is that the future?
	I don't.
	That doesn't sound great to me.
	Well, let's see.
	If you took it, like, for example, the city of San Francisco's got a population just under, it's around a million.
	I think it's lowest was 750 and it's probably a million.
	And you have all these office buildings and you want to attack the city.
	You take, and China is known to have like a million drones.
	You go and you drop, you fly over, or somehow, or you bring them over in cargo containers.
	Yeah, we saw that.
	They come through the port of Oakland and, you know, they're not radioactive.
	And so they go through.
	And you release the kraken.
	And you open the doors and you send them all off.
	You send to hundreds and hundreds of thousands.
	Say you take 500,000 and send them to San Francisco and or you open the crates in San Francisco so they don't have to fly too far because they're run out of electricity.
	And so they fly over there and they bust into all the windows and the Bank of America building.
	They just crash everything they can, bust up the place and have little explosives and blow up everybody they can.
	And they do a little swarm and a little cool little show in the air and then they fly off.
	Yep.
	Actually, the whole of them go into there and they form a visual thumbs up sign with the with the drones and they make it move up and death thumbs up and then they go crap out and fall all over the place.
	Probably kill more people as they're coming down.
	Oh, what a great future.
	No, luckily.
	That's got to be it.
	I mean, what else is there?
	Well, I mean, that's it.
	I mean, we're not going to have any more war.
	President Trump stopped all the wars, man.
	Got one more to go.
	Eight out of nine.
	He's going for a full nine.
	It's all going to happen.
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	But, well, then maybe you need new friends.
	What?
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	Then people are like, oh, and they're scary, so scary there might be trolls there.
	Oh, no.
	That's troll.
	There's trolls in them troll rooms.
	We love those trolls.
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	What Tina and I were talking the other day about friendship.
	And I said, it's quite unbelievable that John and I have been together for over 18 years.
	And we know exactly.
	And I said, and I know, I know that if it really came down to it, if something was drastically wrong, I could call you and you'd show up.
	Probably.
	I probably would show up.
	Yeah, you know, it depends.
	It depends on how bad.
	What is the crisis?
	It depends on the crisis.
	If you had a stubbed toenail or something, who cares?
	Hey, you know, I got a birthday party.
	Okay, good for you.
	Straight up.
	There it is.
	That's how it worked.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're going to go four more years minimum.
	We keep saying it, but it's true.
	Four more years.
	So as a part of this.
	It's ludicrous.
	We're at gun smoke level now.
	I know.
	Although it turns out I was looking at the overnights.
	I was looking at the trades.
	The overnights.
	And I'm looking at the streams, and it turns out that the gun smoke show is now showing up in the streams as a rate.
	It's like in the top 15 or something.
	You know, this would not surprise me because there is so much crap.
	And, you know, so, and here's the trick that the streamers are doing.
	This really made me mad.
	So Amazon bought MGM Studios, which I think was an interesting purchase.
	You know, they get the content library and they get access.
	That's real into Hollywood.
	Yeah, they get the studio.
	They get the studio.
	And so they created House of David, which I'm pretty sure they created that after the success of The Chosen and the Third Great Awakening, the season of Reveal, the revival that I believe we're in.
	And so it's all right.
	Don't worry.
	It'll come to your door.
	So House of David, which is, you know, about King David.
	And it's really well produced, high-end, lot of blood, a lot of killing, kind of follows the story of Samuel.
	And it's fun to watch.
	So the first season, Dynamite.
	Okay.
	And oh, here's the second season.
	And I was like, okay, let's go get, let's watch the second season.
	And now, if you want to watch it, you have to get a new subscription from something called Wonder Life or something.
	Hold on, let me find out what this is called.
	What?
	Yes.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	We're paying big dough.
	Exactly.
	Prime.
	Exactly.
	By the way, for people out there that don't know this, when Prime services first started, it was $75 a month.
	What is it?
	I'm sorry, no, $75 a year, flat fee.
	Yeah.
	And they jack it up and jack it up.
	And this is what Netflix is doing.
	Everyone, if you follow the markets, Netflix is up outrageously high price.
	And all the analysts are going, well, you know, the one thing they can always do, boost their earnings.
	I could jack up the price.
	You know, at some point, people are going to say no.
	Yeah, here it is.
	So now it requires an additional fee on top of the Prime membership for this Wonder Life thing, whatever it is.
	I'm trying to find out what it's actually called.
	So it's a new streaming service.
	I'm like, well, okay, so they have the first six episodes.
	We'll watch all six real quick.
	And then it's like, oh, well, the next one is coming next Sunday.
	And then episode eight will be the Sunday after that, which traps you into your free tier of seven days on this crazy streaming service I don't even want.
	I actually resisted watching for a bit.
	You should just give up.
	You should boycott.
	These shows I tried watching that show.
	I can't watch.
	It's unwatchable.
	It's not for you.
	It's not for heathens.
	Definitely not.
	You have to be saved.
	This is not for you.
	Oh, please.
	Church is for sinners.
	Like, you're not a sinner?
	I'm sure you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You heard it here.
	You heard it here first.
	Pride before a great fall, my friend.
	There's no pride involved.
	Yeah, all right.
	I got too many.
	I'm staying home.
	You know this.
	So, anyway, just your thoughts are sinful.
	Just your thoughts.
	By the way, well, to you, maybe.
	By the way, there will be a meetup.
	I will be out of the house on the 15th of November.
	This coming Saturday, as a matter of fact, this coming Saturday.
	That's right.
	And I would hope that some of our local listeners, and there's a bunch of them, show up because I didn't think they showed up very, there was a mediocre presentation of people last time we did the Mallard Club.
	Well, I was.
	For people who haven't been to the Mallard Club, it is fashioned after a hunting lodge inside with a bunch of heads and dead ducks and things like that.
	And please, I want all our producers to go there and pray for John.
	That's what I want.
	Go there.
	You can pray for me now by going there.
	I want you to go there.
	You can buy me a beer.
	Churches for sinners.
	I think that's true.
	That's probably a good statement.
	Churches for sinners.
	Yes, of course.
	We're all sinners.
	So one way you can help us is by going to a meetup, by organizing a meetup, bringing a tithe to your meetup to support the show.
	That's always very, very welcome.
	Usually in an envelope.
	Yes, it's good to put an envelope with your notes.
	So it doesn't get confused.
	We try.
	There's a lot of administration.
	Throw cash around.
	A lot of administration with this show.
	And another way is by producing things for us.
	We have lots of end-of-show slop for you today.
	Some good ones.
	Actually, very interesting.
	Oh, no.
	Today is Dynamite.
	Yeah, we've got some really good.
	They're not all AI, by the way.
	Not all.
	The one you like is definitely AI, and I thought it was just phenomenal.
	Well, there's two I like.
	I like the Stray Cats clone.
	Yep.
	And I like the techno stuff.
	You love the techno stuff.
	I do.
	Would you go to like a concert by Tiesto?
	No, never.
	Oh, okay.
	Because I could get you in.
	I could get you up in the DJ booth.
	Yeah, I don't have any interest in that.
	With your glow sticks.
	And I like techno to listen to when I'm in an airplane because it puts me out.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	Another way is by supporting us with artwork.
	And we have, as we discussed earlier, NoAgendaArtGenerator.com, which is where you can upload your art.
	And it's, you know, we still have original artists.
	They're still lurking and we still choose them from time to time.
	But Jeffrey Rhea, who typically comes in with very orange, washed out slop, did a pretty good one.
	And he created the No Agenda Curry and Dvorak Farmer's Almanac.
	And it was a decent image.
	We both thought it.
	Yeah, it stood out.
	We liked the monochrome sometimes, and that worked there because it had an old-fashioned quality.
	Monochrome does that.
	And he's overdue.
	We both commented on this to each other.
	He's overdue.
	The guy does so much work.
	Oh, it's so hard.
	And you bitch and moan constantly about it.
	And I mean, the guy might, I'm surprised that guy still submits.
	And so he finally gave us this excellent piece.
	Of course.
	Let me see.
	Was there anything else?
	I kind of like the no, wait a minute.
	No, there wasn't much else, was there?
	No, I mean, I did like the coach Joe did another comic thing that I liked, but again, it doesn't make any sense.
	It's just pretty.
	Yeah.
	I like New Yorkistan, it was also Jeffrey Rhea.
	You thought it was too simplistic, which it probably was.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it still takes a good idea, no matter what you're trying to do.
	Want to mention something here that is probably going to be the way we think about this.
	Just Aaron 8 submitted a whole bunch of funny pieces that use images of these little characters that were in Despicable MeWay, the minions.
	Yes.
	They probably are copywritten images that we can't use without getting sued by Disney.
	Yeah, so we're not going to do that.
	So you have to be careful about the imagery you use.
	Even if it was the AI that created it, somebody has bitched about AI creating minion imagery, and they're going to get sued for it.
	It's the people at the art systems.
	So the final and our favorite way of you supporting us with value for value to keep us going, keep us going through the 2028 Schumer-induced Newsome AOC ticket.
	Bernie's got to fit in there somehow, too.
	Will he?
	No, Bernie will, you know, Bernie will get promised.
	You know, Bernie, Bernie's got something to do with it.
	He's a sucker.
	He'll go along with it because he likes to get AOC in there.
	Yeah.
	He loves it.
	So this is an opportunity because, you know, somebody.
	I love the Schwarzenegger.
	She's great.
	She's perfect.
	I love her.
	You have to work on that.
	I'm working on it.
	By the way, there is one thing worth watching on Netflix, the Eddie Murphy documentary.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, it's really good.
	Okay, I will watch that.
	Yeah, that is.
	I started watching The Diplomat again.
	No, it wasn't.
	This third season is not that good.
	Yeah, but I have to say, in terms of comparing it to other shows, it's one of the best paced.
	Yeah.
	It's like very slick in terms of quality product.
	But the thing is, so what?
	In the olden days, when I was a kid, they would produce 36 shows a season.
	Yes, yes.
	And then they take a couple months off for summer.
	But now they produce 10 episodes, eight episodes a year.
	It's like, you know, okay, you put a lot of work into the eight episodes.
	And so it's slick, but, you know, it's cheating.
	But that's about it.
	There isn't much else left.
	So these are our producers.
	We thank everybody, $50 and above.
	And we'll tell you where they're from.
	And we'll tell you how much they supported the show with.
	Because we're unlike the Epstein people, we're very transparent here.
	We have no babes in bikinis, but we do have people supporting us.
	And at this point, we'd like to thank people who are able to support us with a little bit more, $200 or more.
	We will thank you.
	We'll also read your note.
	See, a long one came in.
	And we'll give you a title because this is like, you know, this is worth it.
	It's like show business, like Hollywood, what's left of it.
	And we will give you the title of Associate Executive Producer for $200 or above.
	If you could do $300 or more, we'll read your note.
	We'll thank you profusely.
	And we will give you the title of executive producer.
	And these are real credits.
	You could go to imdb.com and go look at Dana Brunetti.
	His no-agenda show, Associate Executive Producer Credit, is right at the top.
	It's right at the top of his list.
	Above House of Cards.
	It's beautiful to watch.
	So we've got some mega supporters today.
	He's back.
	He's alive.
	We're happy to hear about it.
	Sironymous of Dog Patch and Lois Lobovia comes in all cash, $3,861.
	It's code.
	We don't know exactly what it means.
	Did it include $2 bills?
	Yes, three of them.
	For the six, I'll say, and a single, I guess.
	No, no.
	No, it was a five and three twos is the 11.
	So you get the one.
	Oh.
	Interesting.
	He always accompanies this with a very nice note.
	I don't think he's ever sent a $1 bill.
	Because he's not cheap.
	No, it's not that.
	It's because when they sent the pallet of money over to Iran, it had all those $2 bills in it.
	There was no ones.
	Got it.
	Sir Anos of Dog Patch and Lower Slobovia says, thank you to all producers and the two hosts that make this such an important source of information, perspective, and the best resource for media history in the universe.
	I don't think that's good.
	What an endorsement.
	In fact, it was exhibited on today's show by Adam himself when he discussed the history of podcasting.
	That's correct.
	And he poses a number of questions here, and I shall read them off.
	One, will having an African Muslim mayor of New York City cause a drop in no agenda listeners?
	Well, I don't see why that would happen.
	No, I think it would cause an increase.
	Will he be compared to another Ugandan like Edi Amin?
	That's possible.
	Well, Edi Amin was brought in by the CIA, so.
	And will anti-Semite and anti-Muslim fears grow among peace-loving Christians?
	Yes, that fear is being bestowed upon Christians everywhere.
	And I'm telling people, hey, knock it off.
	Yeah, it's no good.
	And it truly is.
	This is the next, let's bring all the believers together.
	Let's make them all afraid of the Muslims.
	Dearborn, well, Dearborn is being run Mashiria law.
	Don't worry.
	I do not see that happening in America.
	Are anti-Catholic fears in the offing?
	I think that's no.
	I don't think so.
	Will Trump replace Jimmy Kimmel as a show host with Donald Live in 2029?
	Well, I'd watch it, but no.
	I'd watch it, but that's not happening.
	No.
	Do producers know where Molly, Sudan, or the Sahel are?
	And should they care?
	Yes, yes, yes, and they should.
	I'm pretty sure our producers know where Molly Sudan and the Sahel are.
	I don't know anybody that knows where Sahel.
	If you pronounce that way, it's just a desert area out in the middle of nowhere between two countries.
	Yeah, but this is.
	It's like the Mojave Desert, basically.
	This is code.
	This is code.
	Keep your eye on the Sahel.
	Oh, no, that's an interesting point.
	Of course.
	What am I thinking?
	Yes.
	Only No Agenda offers thoughtful insight into these and many more important issues ignored by the M5M sacrificing fortune to offer their perspective and information without advertiser censorship.
	Free and independent perspective supported by a vast resource of producers always matters and needs to be supported.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Animus of Dog Patch and Lower Slobovia, not just for your donation, but we love your probing questions.
	And it's just good to know you're alive because we sometimes are wondering, like, is he okay?
	Yes, we do.
	We do wonder.
	Is he okay?
	We haven't heard from him, you know, because I know he has, I feel he has a dangerous job, whatever he does.
	He could be a caterpillar salesman for all we know.
	Okay.
	Yeah, keep on believing that.
	I don't think so.
	It's possible.
	I don't think so.
	Which leaves you with a rather long note to read.
	Yes, I got it.
	It's from Dame Catherine, our crypto granny buddy.
	Bang Bangkok.
	She's a very close associate to the show.
	And she came here with the Rubelizer donation.
	Ah, we need the jingle.
	India.
	Bang y'all, Mike.
	Stand by.
	33, 33, 33.
	Rubilizer out.
	There you go.
	The special donation.
	3333.33.
	This is a big donation.
	And she's been promising to do this for a while.
	I've been back and forth with her.
	And this is actually- Did you send this in Bitcoin?
	I think so, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Even though it came in with the color.
	Yeah, because it came in.
	It's wrong.
	It's Bitcoin.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's a Bitcoin donation.
	And she's been back and forth and back and forth with it, one thing or another.
	And she's confused, not confused, but she managed it because she sent a donation last show, too.
	Let's see what we can get.
	A streak of Rubilizers going, she says.
	For you Bitcoiners, there's a bit of magic to find where on Stripe you can donate.
	It's Strike that we use.
	No.
	Strike.
	Strike.
	Yes.
	Strike with a K.
	Yes.
	And it's on the noagendadonations.com.
	You click around, you'll find the links.
	Hopefully, John will clarify this in the future newsletters.
	And Jay's been dicking around with that site to make it easier for people because apparently some people can't click it.
	Well, the QR code is the easiest because the way Bitcoin works.
	Yeah, but it's down.
	It's down below.
	It's below the fold.
	It's below the fold.
	Yeah, it should.
	Yeah, it should be.
	Move it up.
	Move it up.
	I want to thank you all for all your hard work over the years.
	I love hearing about your personal lives.
	I don't know why, but that's what she writes.
	Adam finding the keeper.
	And then Jesus.
	And of course, John's kids at the dinner table and the adorable.
	What are you teaching him now, John?
	Yes.
	What are you teaching him?
	Thank you to Mimi for her work and her keeping John in line.
	That should be.
	I think she meant keeping John alive, I think is what she meant.
	I have life, baby.
	You have a good woman there.
	I feel like you're my family, especially with the coibbling back and forth as a proud boomer.
	I really enjoy it when you tickle my memories that make me smile.
	Yeah, we do have a lot of these.
	It's called old stories.
	When I was a kid, she continues.
	I have loved the evolution from the ground up, the trolls, the boots on the ground, podcasting 2.0, the meetups, the artists.
	I should give a shout out and special recognition to the producers in the background who do so much work.
	You have touched so many people in a very positive way.
	It's a long note, but it's a Rubelizer donation.
	Hello.
	I would like to bestow these titles.
	My son, JD, will be JD Knight of the River's Edge.
	My adorable five-year-old granddaughter, Taylor, will be Dame Taytay of Durango.
	My super amazing daughter-in-law will be Dame Ashley Little Miss Sunshine.
	I think they may also get a peace prize in which they richly deserve.
	Yes.
	Okay, well, we can do that.
	JD would like bourbon Brussels sprouts and some amazing mac and cheese at the roundtable.
	Wait, that brings me to my bonus clip.
	But I have the amazing mac and cheese.
	Hold on.
	Here it is.
	Hopefully, this will suffice.
	Let me just crank up the volume on this a little bit for some reason.
	It's kind of low.
	Here we go.
	Get ahead of Thanksgiving.
	Kraft Mac and Cheese is combining two Thanksgiving classics into one holiday dish.
	So let's see if you like this one here.
	They're introducing a new craft mac and cheese apple flavor, apple pie flavor.
	So this new flavor is mixing mac and cheese and apple pie for what they say is a new take on America's favorite dessert.
	If that sounds like something that you're craving, it's available nationwide at Walmart for a limited time.
	What do you think?
	In Walmart yet.
	Sounds nice.
	She finishes off with thank you.
	And remember, being rich is having enough to share with others.
	A note to all.
	Well, there's more to it.
	Well, I don't have any more.
	That does not just mean money.
	It's time, talent, and treasure from Dame Catherine Crypto Granny of Bangkok.
	And we go straight into another Bitcoin donation from Sir Double T ITM, sirs.
	I've just seen the first confirmation of a 1010101 Satoshi donation.
	So that's over 1 million Satoshis to the greatest podcast in the universe and thought it's time to send a note.
	I believe this donation makes me, gives me knighthood, and I would like to be called Sir Double T of the Nosterverse.
	Yes, right.
	It came in at $1,062.35.
	I love what you do, and I love my truck.
	Stay humble and stack sats, says Sir Double T. Thank you very much.
	This Bitcoin thing is rocking, John.
	This is good.
	Eli the Coffee Guy 211.13, the date.
	Looks like the penny finally tapped out after 232 years.
	Yes, it did.
	Funny how something so small that we have taken for granted felt permanent, but alas, it had a good run.
	At least for now, we can still say our coffee is worth every penny.
	So visit Gigawatt Code.
	That's the transition of the day.
	Yep.
	So visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order and get some amazing fresh frozen coffee.
	Fresh frozen?
	It comes frozen?
	Today.
	Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy.
	So is this not just a result of inflation, money printing, or money supply, I should say, that the penny now just has to go?
	Because we at one point had a half penny.
	Did we not?
	Didn't we have a half penny?
	No, no, that's England.
	We never had a half penny.
	I think we, are you sure?
	I'm pretty sure.
	I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
	I think we have.
	There was a haypenny that used to be called, and that was a British U.S. coin.
	I'm looking at half penny.
	Okay, let me see.
	And half cent?
	Yes, half cent.
	You're wrong, Dvorek.
	That can happen.
	It was first minted in 1793, last minted in 1857.
	At that time, it had purchasing power equivalent to between 12 and 17 cents in 2024 money.
	Yeah, it's actually probably more than that.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you can find one, it's probably worth it.
	Well, the real reason for cutting this thing out is that it costs four cents to make one cent.
	Right.
	Well, there's your inflation.
	It's dumb.
	Brian Warden is in coming, Georgia, and he sends us $200.07 associate executive producership for you.
	And he, oh, this is good.
	I saw a six-sided stop sign and knew I had to donate.
	As opposed to what other sort of stop sign?
	Well, he said this was one of your many donation strategies from around the 700s.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, no, it's still in play.
	Well, we need to just remind people, when you see a stop sign, you see that stop sign, you think donate to the No Agenda Show.
	Stop sign, donate to the No Agenda Show.
	When you see a stop sign, donate to the No Agenda Show.
	What are you getting at?
	Whenever people see...
	Specifically, what do you mean by this?
	When you see a stop sign.
	Yeah, okay.
	Wait, I'm driving on the street and I see it's red.
	It's six-sided, six-sided.
	It's a stop sign.
	And what's the first thing that goes through your mind?
	Time.
	Well, the first thing that goes through my mind is to stop.
	Stop and donate to the No Agenda Show.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe that'll work.
	$115 NICU donation, $50 for John and all of his anal clips on $17.99.
	I kept my water and blankets, just sent my cash.
	That's right, Brian.
	Thank you very much.
	And thank you for reminding us.
	When you see a stop sign, it's time to donate to your No Agenda show.
	Clinton Louden in Austin, Texas, right up the street from where you used to live.
	200 bucks.
	John and Adam, thanks for what you do.
	I'm sending an infographic on visas.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	But okay, I'll look for it.
	Infographics still exist.
	Also, I wish there was a Boomer Award.
	Giving me ideas because that quit being so negative comment aimed at millennials a few shows ago was the most boomer thing ever.
	There's another interesting gag.
	You know, we have enough boomers who listen to the show that appreciate boomer talk.
	Well, I think Gen Z should be eligible for boomer awards because they have boomer values.
	That's why they're attracted to our boomer talk.
	Yeah, and they want to learn as much as they can so they can have a competitive edge over the X's and the millennials.
	And they're looking, they are aggressively looking, even though they've been dumbed down by the public school system.
	They know this.
	They have self-realization and they know that they have to be competitive with these other two groups, not us, because they're not competing with us.
	They're competing with the X's and the Millennials.
	They know that they're going to have to have an edge.
	And the edge is the knowledge of the boomers.
	The boomer knowledge.
	Boomer knowledge.
	Speaking of a competitive edge.
	Good name for a show, by the way.
	Yes, boomer knowledge.
	Speaking of a competitive edge, Linda Liu Patkin is here with $200 from Lakewood, Colorado, and she wants jobs karma.
	And in fact, says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K.
	And work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Nika.
	Hama.
	Michael Day in Fuquay, Varina, which is not pronounced correctly because I don't know how to pronounce it.
	In North Carolina.
	Fouquet. Fouquet. Fouquet.
	Hey, Fouquet. Fouquet this. Fouquet this.
	200 bucks.
	And his simple note, nice and short, credit my wife, Damon Kelly.
	And then he says, save the ostriches, which is too late.
	The Canadians killed them all.
	They all killed each other.
	Brutally.
	Yes, it's horrible.
	For no good reason, by the way.
	Just because they're Canadian.
	Crazy over this.
	Mark Carney.
	Mark Carney's killing your ostriches, people.
	Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1816.
	You will be credited as such.
	And remember, these credits are real.
	They are valid.
	If anyone questions them, all you have to do is let us know and we will gladly vouch for you.
	They will be presented on the credits.
	And of course, you can put them anywhere that credits are recognized and appreciated.
	Your LinkedIn profile and don't forget the imdb.com.
	And we'll be thanking the rest of our supporters who went to noagendadonations.com at the end of the show, our second segment.
	Ow, once again, congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We hit people in the mouth.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, since we've been playing with it throughout the show, might as well play this report.
	Get your soundmakers ready.
	Ike is at a turkey farm in New Jersey with Laura.
	Good morning to you, Ike.
	Good morning, Robin.
	They're saying good morning, too.
	Listen, the good folks here at Double Brook Farm in Hopewell, New Jersey, they're gearing up for Thanksgiving.
	I don't think they like that too much, but let me tell you, you should be gearing up too.
	I know grocery store prices are rising across the country, but a new report says that your Thanksgiving feast could actually be a bit cheaper this year.
	Hey, mine doesn't work that well anymore.
	I think I touched the membrane.
	No, no, it's just you have to catch it just right.
	The thing is touchy.
	It's touchy.
	50-year mortgages.
	This was kind of a scam, if ever there was.
	Well, let me play the report and then I have some questions.
	This morning, new backlash as the Trump administration leaves forward with a plan to introduce 50-year mortgages.
	It looks to be like the president's looking for a quick fix to a market that is fundamentally broken right now.
	Over the weekend, Trump's sharing this image comparing the proposal to the 30-year mortgage policies championed by FDR nearly a century ago.
	The move could potentially kickstart the now stagnant real estate market.
	Homes are currently seeing the lowest turnover rate in 30 years, and the median age of first-time homebuyers just hit an all-time high of 40 years old.
	It's really difficult to see right now for younger borrowers how they are going to be able to afford a home.
	A longer fixed-rate mortgage would lower monthly payments, but would also create a higher total cost because of all that interest over five decades.
	Take a $400,000 loan at 6% interest.
	Under a 30-year mortgage, the monthly payment would be just shy of $2,400.
	Under a 50-year loan, it drops to just over $2,100, a savings of nearly $300 a month.
	But over time, that savings is erased by a much larger interest bill.
	Because while the total interest on a 30-year loan would be about $463,000, the interest on a 50-year loan would total more than $860,000.
	Many, including longtime allies of President Trump, are not on board with the idea.
	Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, quote, it will ultimately reward the banks, mortgage lenders, and home builders, while people pay far more in interest over time and die before they ever pay off their home.
	In debt forever, in debt for life.
	And the White House has not yet explained how it would get around the Dodd-Frank Act, which effectively bans mortgages longer than 30 years.
	Well, that effectively ban is not entirely true, but you wouldn't be a qualified mortgage lender, but it's not banned by any stretch of the imagination.
	But tell us about this.
	This is important for our Gen Z listeners.
	What advice will you give them, which of course is not financial advice because we don't give any, but what is your thoughts on this?
	Well, I don't like it.
	It's a phone, it's a scam of sorts.
	I mean, this is like increasing the car loans from, you know, two years, three years.
	I think it normally was three or four years.
	You get seven years now.
	Yeah, they got it jacked up.
	So you just pay a lot of benefits to the banks, and the banks are the problem.
	That would be great.
	A question, a question, a question.
	You can deduct the interest from your taxes.
	Yeah.
	So isn't that although Trump put a cap on that a few years ago, and then luckily the Democrats took the cap off.
	And I think it's off now for a while.
	It is.
	It's up to like 40,000 or something.
	Yeah, there's still a cap, but it's not, it was down to 10.
	Yeah, but it's, well, that's what Trump did.
	And then now it's up to 40.
	So, I mean, is that not something that you should look at?
	It's a big deal that you can, it lowers your taxes.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	It's helpful, but it lowers your taxes with the 30-year mortgage, too.
	The difference is negligible insofar as the taxes is concerned, but in terms of the long-term accumulation of interest, it's no, it's ridiculous.
	And it's largely, I think, this whole problem with the shortage and the problem with the kids getting in is it has to do with the banks.
	The banks make it difficult for anyone to get a loan for anything and for this purpose to create a phony crisis.
	So they have to do something like the drastic, like this 50-year thing.
	And all of a sudden, they relax the standards and everyone will be able to get one of these loans.
	This is basically some sort of a scam.
	Okay.
	So stay away.
	And for the kids, you're going to just have to starve yourself to get once you get your down payment and get in, you're good to go, but you're going to have to sacrifice only fans, only fans.
	Actually, some truth to that.
	Yeah.
	Just saying.
	I got a note from a guy that was, where is this note?
	Here it is.
	A lot of notes.
	I haven't caught up with my notes.
	This guy goes on and says, he has a comment on the show related to the show 1815.
	During the show, you were discussing health care and health insurance companies.
	You had an anecdotal story regarding a young woman.
	This is the last show, actually, seeking the MRI approach.
	And then she could get it for $700 as opposed to $1,500.
	She talked to another provider, blah, blah, blah.
	Your analysis blamed the insurance company for the outrageous difference.
	However, the deductible payment goes to the hospital provider, not the insurance company.
	So the hospital is going to collect the 5K plus whatever the insurance company reimburses plus the 750 versus the $750 if cash was paid.
	The serious gouging by the hospital provider.
	Well, yes.
	So why the hospital?
	The hospitals are as much at fault as anyone else.
	Why do the hospitals gladly take cash payment at a lower price then?
	If that is true, they don't gladly take it.
	Yes, they do.
	Well, they do take it, but this one hospital wouldn't.
	I don't think this applies to all hospitals.
	That's the problem.
	And I think it definitely applies to HMO hospitals.
	Which, by the way, wasn't a British invention.
	And not only that, but it was HMOs in this country until Richard Nixon.
	I have to write an essay on this so I can get it straight myself, but Richard Nixon allowed the HMOs to, when he was in office, passed a law that allowed them to make profit.
	They were not allowed.
	They had to be not to be nonprofit, had to be break-even operations, all these HMOs.
	And that's when Kaiser was in business.
	I used to be a Kaiser girl.
	Yeah, I was a Kaiser girl.
	I used to be a, I worked for Kaiser and I got free health care from Kaiser and then I continued that health benefit.
	It was cheap.
	And it was pay as you go.
	I didn't remember paying a monthly thing that all changed with Nixon.
	And they started creeping and creeping.
	They could make more and more profits.
	And you look at the balance sheets and the billions of dollars being made by all these middlemen, including the hospitals and the insurance companies, aren't making millions and millions and billions of dollars because everybody's doing getting health care inexpensively.
	So I blame both the health care.
	The whole system sucks.
	Well, because you brought up MRI, producer Scott sent a note.
	He says, I needed an MRI for a shoulder injury.
	My orthopedic doctor's office performs them.
	They bill insurance $1,600.
	They were willing to give me a self-pay price of $1,200.
	CrowdHealth, that's the thing that Tina, that Tina can tell you about, TinaCurry.com, found an imaging center that happened to be closer than my ortho's office.
	The imaging center performed the MRI, produced a written report by a radiologist, sent that report to my ortho and me, and gave me a disc of the images.
	Final price, $321.
	Dude, that's a quarter of the price.
	Pays the shop around.
	Yes.
	Well, in this case, CrowdHealth did it.
	And then I got a disturbing note.
	I don't understand how this could even happen.
	So I don't know if you found out about California, if health insurance is mandatory.
	I have yet to disprove this.
	Well, one of our producers lives in Massachusetts.
	He says Massachusetts imposes a penalty if you don't have health insurance because I use crowd health.
	I will have to pay a penalty.
	I decided to pay the penalty because I think the crowd.
	It's cheaper.
	I think the crowd health model is good for the country.
	I don't like giving my money to insurance companies.
	I like being able to choose what crowd events I pay for.
	And there's a decent chance my costs will still be lower by using crowd health and paying the penalty.
	But they have this whole, he sent me a whole penalty schedule.
	I mean, this was the whole point of removing the Obamacare tax.
	And now I didn't know that state just went ahead and just made this law.
	I mean, isn't that, doesn't that fall under the same unconstitutional tax that's not a tax?
	There's something fishy about it.
	I'd say.
	But let's get Rob on it.
	Because he's got nothing better to do.
	Poor Rob.
	Oh, God.
	Those guys are asking more legal questions for free.
	Come on, Rob.
	It's like most lawyers have a little clock next to the phone.
	As soon as they pick up, they tap it and they're billing you by the second.
	It's like one of those chess clocks.
	Okay.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's exactly the same.
	And it's going around and around.
	Can you ask that question again?
	It's also possible that he's just noting this and one day he'll come up and say, okay, I need to be a duke.
	And here's my accounting.
	He's got the clock running.
	Here's my accounting over that.
	Actually, being an attorney, that would not surprise me.
	And that wouldn't be a problem for me.
	No, you know, dukedoms are what they are.
	Yeah, they are.
	Indeed.
	Oh, that's funny.
	All right.
	You have other stuff here in your list that you haven't played.
	Yeah, I got this catch-up stuff.
	I got this stuff to get us up to speed.
	Let's go with, well, we got the Trump suing the BBC over that thing.
	We kind of discussed that earlier.
	Yeah.
	By the way, it turns out this morning, ABC Australian Broadcasting had pulled the same stunt.
	Oh, they did.
	They may be up.
	Yes, and they're getting burned.
	They got burned by the tele.
	Did they take telegram?
	Did they take the same thing?
	No, it was different.
	Different, but still bad.
	Different.
	And they got burned by Sky News.
	Oh, wow.
	Just the same the way the Telegraph did with the BBC.
	Let's go with the Ukraine update.
	Everybody loves the Ukraine update.
	Secretary of State Marco Rubio continues meeting with G7 foreign ministers in Canada today.
	Ukraine's foreign minister is attending as well.
	Ukraine is seeking to buy 25 additional Patriot defense systems in the U.S.
	And today's international correspondent, Arian Pastar, has more.
	Secretary of State Marko Rubio is among the G7 officials welcoming Ukraine's foreign minister in Canada on Wednesday.
	Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky recently said he wants to order 25 Patriot air defense systems from the United States.
	Meanwhile, Canada has announced additional sanctions on people and entities involved in Russia's drone program.
	The measure will affect 13 people and 11 entities, including several involved in the development and deployment of Russian drones.
	Meanwhile, in Ukraine, Kiev is battling an alleged major $100 million corruption scheme.
	Anti-corruption authorities say they detained five people suspected of involvement in the alleged plot to control procurement in state energy enterprises.
	Ukraine's government is now being shaken up.
	On Wednesday, the country's energy minister resigned while the justice minister was suspended.
	This comes after President Vladimir Zelensky called for their dismissal.
	I believe the justice minister and energy minister can no longer remain in their positions.
	This is a matter of trust.
	If there are accusations, they must be addressed.
	The corruption in the energy sector comes as Russia keeps attacking Ukraine's energy infrastructure, which brings blackouts across the country ahead of winter.
	I was actually very angry after the shelling of the energy infrastructure because it turns out that our energy facilities are not protected for this year of the war.
	The scandal also hurts Ukraine's bid to join the European Union.
	Fighting corruption is central to Kiev's goal for EU membership.
	Meanwhile, the fighting continues in eastern Ukraine.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Do you think that this was part of the we want to be in the EU?
	So look what we did, we got rid of some guys.
	Maybe.
	But it just points out that the whole place is corrupt.
	Of course it is.
	I have actually a clip here from European Parliament Vice President Hanna Virkunen about the media in the EU.
	They have instituted, I didn't know about this, it's called the Media Freedom Act.
	With that wording, that means it's just the opposite.
	Well, in a way, you have to kind of get into her accent, but it's a short clip.
	We are supporting our journalist work and our news media.
	Of course, these kind of programs, it's only a very small part when we look at the whole financial framework where our media is working nowadays.
	So I see that it's even more important also to make sure that we are creating more level playing field for our media because we know.
	Notice how she keeps saying our media, our media, our media, our media.
	It's.
	More important also to make sure that we are creating more level playing field for our media, because we know that our media is very much under financial pressure because of the digitalization and because of the online platforms that the people are not buying so much newspapers, for example anymore, and a big part of advertising is also in digital platforms.
	So we have to also look at how we can create more level playing field for our media.
	But in the same time, it's very important also that we are supporting our journalist work and free and independent media and, of course, member states are also playing very important role here, and that's why we have media freedom act now into place and member states are currently Is now implementing it, and we are now encouraging all the member states to implement it very fast, because there we are also looking at the ownerships and the structures of media in different member states to make sure that we have free,
	independent, and media all over in our member states.
	Yeah, so you're right, of course, this is not about free, independent media.
	The European Media Freedom Act provides grants to state media for media innovation and journalism partnerships in the millions.
	Yeah, this is all and all state media in Europe is all socialist.
	It's horrible.
	It's, you know, it's no better than the BBC lying, you know, and it's controlled by the politicians because the politicians, here you are, are controlling the money that they want.
	Another little tidbit from European legislation.
	As of January 2027, every Euro above 10,000 euros in cash in your home becomes illegal tender.
	Every crypto transaction must be a data point in the database.
	So if I had $15,000 in cash because I was going to say I was going to, I'm looking to buy a car.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	The EU anti-money laundering package starting in 2027, buying a car.
	Do they realize that drug guys, the drug dealers do business in the millions?
	Buying a car in cash will be a crime.
	What?
	At 2027.
	Sending over 1,000 euros without state approval triggers prosecution.
	The digital Euro arrives in 2029.
	And you will only be able to hold 3,000 euros in your digital Euro, every purchase tracked, every pattern analyzed.
	Yeah, this is great.
	Why would anyone put up with this?
	Because it's being.
	Do I want to buy a car cash?
	No.
	No, just no.
	No.
	You can't.
	Why?
	Because you will own nothing and you will be happy.
	No.
	Just know.
	I got to get my kid out of there before 2029.
	This is nuts.
	Yeah, well, you're not having much success from the way I see it.
	They're coming for Christmas.
	You're coming for Christmas, and I'm going to take them around.
	I'm going to show them how wonderful it is in America, America.
	And Christmas is a great time, particularly in Fredericksburg.
	Oh, is it one of those festive little days?
	We are the Christmas town of Texas.
	Is that right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, where's the photos from last year?
	I haven't seen one photo of what you just said.
	You should have had photos.
	You send them to me.
	I put them in the news store.
	There's a lot of things we can do with these photos.
	I want to see some really dynamite photos.
	I will send you some dynamite photos because we will be on one of the balconies on Main Street because we are connected.
	What are you doing on a balcony?
	Just sitting there?
	Well, then you can see the whole parade go by.
	Oh, there's a parade.
	You didn't say anything about that.
	Well, you didn't let me get that.
	You're going to try to get the kid there before the parade.
	Is it called the Christmas parade?
	What's it called?
	Yeah, it's a Christmas.
	Well, it's the lighting of, we have a big Christmas tree on the March 15th.
	have a like a rockefeller center christmas tree type thing and we have all kinds of wool Yas, yas.
	I finally found the guy who speaks German here, Bert.
	So we wanted to have our A gas fireplace, and so we got a number from the guy we bought the house from, and Bert comes over.
	And turns out Bert is the owner of Hill Country Propane, which is the propane.
	Yes.
	And Bert says, Yeah, I'm talking like this.
	He does.
	And he says, I'm 71.
	They won't let me retire.
	It's uh, but I love doing these myself.
	And he had stories about how he call you Bobby.
	He did not call me Bobby.
	He had great stories.
	He was into drag car racing, and uh, he has an incredible history.
	And you know, he's like fifth generation Fredericksburg, still has 400 acres himself.
	He's wonderful people out here.
	And, you know, it's uh, and what was it?
	Uh, he said, um, for his wedding, his, his, his college buddy, he said, yeah, I want you to, I want your band to play at my wedding.
	And so his buddy came over and it set up.
	He said, you know, we got an our singer quit, so we're auditioning a new singer, and it's going to be here during your wedding.
	And he said, ah, it's fine.
	I don't care.
	That singer was George Strait.
	My buddy.
	My buddy.
	My buddy George Straight.
	One of the top singers in the world ever.
	Yeah, well, that was his audition.
	And his college buddy still plays drums for George Strait.
	It's a magical town, John.
	We got magical people here.
	Just remember.
	Yeah, and they give us, they give us Fredericksburg inverse that we can rebut.
	Inverse, inverse Fredericksburg.
	What is it called again?
	I got to get to write it down.
	What is it called?
	Inverse Fredericksburg.
	Just inverse Fredericksburg.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's like Inverse Kramer.
	Yeah, whatever Kramer says on CNBC, do the opposite.
	By the way, next week, next week, MSNBC goes to MS Now.
	Yeah, on the 15th.
	I'm very excited.
	They're going to have new producers.
	Well, that's what they say.
	Could be musical chairs for all we know.
	Yes.
	And I have an update.
	Yes.
	Not quite sports ball, but I figured this was an update that you'd be interested in.
	Here we go.
	Conichua, and thanks for joining us on Grand Sumo Highlights.
	It's day two of the November tournament.
	Yo, Kosuna Ono Santo got off to an auspicious start with a convincing day one victory.
	He seems well positioned to capture his fourth title of the year and do it in back-to-back fashion.
	There you go.
	There's your sumo update.
	I said there was like some 16-year-old kid that was a third of the side of the sumo wrestler and he beat him.
	Did you see that?
	No, I didn't see this.
	I didn't see day two.
	I saw day one and I've been watching.
	You're my see, this is why I bring the sumo updates.
	Well, you know, here's what the problem is with this tournament.
	They always play it on three or four different specific hours, the highlights.
	You can watch it live if you want to, but you have to wait till I love, I love watching it live.
	Oh, I mean, I will watch one maybe once live.
	It takes forever.
	You don't have any clue about how long it takes to do one match.
	I know until you watch it live.
	Silly dallying that keeps squashing down.
	They get up, they get down, they take a shit, they take a pee, they go here, they go there, they get up, they get down, they get up, they get down.
	It goes on forever, and they finally have the match.
	It does look like they're pooping, doesn't it?
	Well, they just want to, it's just ridiculous.
	So those highlights are the way to go.
	So, so what happened, though, is after daylight saving time switched back.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the times on the shows haven't switched back.
	They're the same time, so they're off an hour.
	So I'm a schedule-oriented type of guy.
	And so, you know, like when I expected, I'd go watch the Sumbo at 9.30 and, oh, it's already over.
	Because it was bummer.
	They played it at 8.30.
	Yeah, and it takes me, it'll take me probably two tournaments to get the timing right.
	And that, ladies and gentlemen, is your sports ball update.
	Thank you so much by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do this.
	And while we had a big first half of show, we have a lesser second half of show in terms of numbers of donors.
	In fact, it's one of the all-time lows total with a grand total of 25 people who actually came in.
	And so it's going to be a very short segment, which Adam will now read, beginning with our buddy in Sparks.
	Yes, that is Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada.
	And she sends us $167.
	Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
	Vote Lindsey Graham out, $105.35.
	Rochelle Lizinski in Bailey, Colorado.
	What does she say here?
	Oh, something about the Gen Zs.
	If you want more people to listen live, tell them what day or time they should tune in.
	Old school radio appointment setting strategy, but it works.
	It helps the new Gen Z listeners.
	No, they can't read clocks, so they'll never know.
	Oh, that's Rocky.
	We do this on...
	On DHM Plug, we constantly pound Horowitz does the time that the show runs live.
	By the way, I didn't realize.
	Oh, I didn't realize that this is her real name.
	This is Rocky Thomas sending this donation.
	Rocky Thomas.
	Rocky Thomas.
	Yeah.
	Who's Rocky Thomas?
	Rocky.
	She's a friend, Rocky Thomas.
	She is the chief success officer, chief revenue officer, one of the co-founders of Live365.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	And she is what they call a technique up there in Colorado with her husband and their kids.
	Yes, go podcasting.
	You're right, Rocky Thomas.
	We shall tell everybody, listen live at 1 p.m. Texas time.
	Figure it out for wherever you live.
	Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina, 805.
	Oh, Mike.
	You left Mike.
	Mike.
	Sorry, Mike.
	105.35.
	Sumo donation.
	Wow, how about that?
	Now we go to Kevin, who says, Laos Deo translates to praise be to God, inscribed on top of the Washington Mammon facing east towards the rising sun.
	That's his boob donation.
	And then, Sir Scott, ah, he is, in fact, the Black Knight of the No Agenda Armory.
	He says, this donation is to celebrate my 60th trip around the sun on Wednesday the 12th.
	Scott, of course, is always to be found at the many meetups in the Austin area.
	He organized a lot of them with his beautiful wife.
	This takes me to the title of Black Viscount of the No Agenda Armory.
	I'm a full-priced Viscount.
	No double credit donations, no executive producer titles, no Commodore titles or other gimmicks.
	Just $295, $12.50 auto-bank paychecks on every payday with a few other donations at Meetup sprinkled in to be a Viscount with no ASTICs.
	That's a Reverend Al reference.
	Please play the David Bowie title chains jingle couple with health karma to help me get over my hypertension battle so I can once again have the energy to start hosting Austin meetups.
	Thank you, Scott R. Morgan.
	He is Sir Scott, the Black Knight of the No Agenda Armory and a friend of the show.
	Thank you, Sir Scott.
	Congratulations.
	Yes, he did.
	Christopher Dector, 5678-5678.
	Gina Molly with $52.72.
	I'm pretty sure that's $50 with fees.
	Thank you for the tip about Amarula.
	Bought it, brought it to a dinner party.
	Everybody loved it.
	Dessert with raspberries with ice cream.
	It was delicious, poured over the top.
	Oh, there's a tip on the tip.
	Hannah Richter, 5272.
	Stephen Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio.
	50.
	These are the 50s.
	Scott McCarty, Lodi, California.
	Tim Delvecchio in Blandin, Pennsylvania.
	Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
	Isn't that where all the tech guys live?
	Woodland Hills?
	I'm thinking.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	Patricia Worthington, Miami, Florida.
	Dame Patricia Worthington.
	Brandon Savois in Port Orchard, Washington.
	Commodore Sir Crummy in El Cajon, California.
	And winding it up there is Harry Clann from Alito, Texas.
	Thank you all very much.
	These are the rest of our producers, $50 and above.
	We do not mention or thank under 49, under 50 directly, but we are thankful.
	Of course, that is for reasons of anonymity.
	And you can support the best podcast in the universe by going to noagendadonations.com and supporting us with any amount that you thought you got out of the show.
	Value for value.
	You can always set up a recurring donation, like Sir Scott, any amount, any frequency, noagendadonations.com.
	And it's looking a bit like the donation list there.
	Only one birthday, only one, but it is the big 6-0.
	Sir Scott, the Viscount to be of the Armory, turned 60 years old.
	Congratulations.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And by request, Sir Scott receives the David Bowie title change as he goes from Black Knight of the No Agenda Armory to Sir Scott Black Viscount of the No Agenda Armory.
	Thanks to what is it, $275, $12.50 donations.
	It does work, people.
	Thank you very much, Scott.
	We love you.
	We love you long time, my friend.
	Before we get to our dames and knights, we do have several recipients of the No Agenda International Peace Prize, which can be picked up in NoAgendarings.com and is well deserved by the following people who are the recipients of the No Agenda International Peace Prize.
	Sir Onimbus of Dog Patch and Lower Slobovia, JD, Taylor, and Ashley.
	These, of course, are the crypto granny kids or grandkids or yeah, grandkids.
	Congratulations and welcome to that elite club that includes our president, our vice president, and the negotiation team of Make Gaza Great Again.
	And we have two dames and two knights.
	So get your blade out, John, if you don't mind.
	Here you go.
	That's a beauty.
	Welcome to the stage, Taylor, Ashley, JD, and Double T. All of you become knights or dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate V as Dame Taytay of the Durango.
	Dame Ashley, Little Miss Sunshine, JD, Knight of River's Edge, and Sir Double T of the Nostroverse for you.
	We've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay, Bourbon Brussels Sprouts, and some amazing mac and cheese of the apple pie flavor variety.
	Along with that, we've got Ruben S Lumin and Rose, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bungets and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger, and gerbils, breast milk and pablo.
	And as always, here at the roundtable, we've got the mutton and the mead.
	You got rings.
	Rings are for you.
	Go to noagendarings.com.
	You might meet some international peace prize recipients there as well.
	And take a look at that beautiful ring.
	It is a signet ring.
	So we send you some wax, which you can melt down, press that ring into to seal your important correspondence.
	It always comes with a certificate of authenticity.
	And as always, please use the handy ring sizing guide there to let us know what size to send you and where to send it.
	And welcome our brand new knights and dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	No one should be on.
	Well, that's right.
	We got tons of meetups taking place all over the globe.
	We love it when people tell us how it went.
	And here is the Oklahoma City meetup report.
	They titled this meetup, Everything's an Op.
	Hey, this is Sir Art Vandalay.
	We are here at the Everything's an Op OKC No Agenda Meetup.
	And we're going to go around and let everybody say their peace.
	I am Shantakis Maximus.
	In the morning.
	ITM No Agenda.
	This is Fomer Brahmin giving a quick shout out to Carl and Shar.
	Greetings from a local generationally irrelevant Zoomer.
	ITM, y'all.
	This is the Oklahoma, formerly in the swamp, being a cute little douchebag in the morning.
	In the morning, this is Aaron from Norman.
	Bezos to John and Adams.
	This is Dame Cassidy Eastwood of Dimension A. Sir, Demo Dave, in the morning.
	In the morning, it's Dave Brains and Bird, and we're talking about shoegays.
	Hi!
	All right, there you have it.
	It's been an awesome time.
	ITM in the morning.
	And unfortunately, they did not include their server in the report.
	We always love hearing that, and it gives a promotion to the establishment.
	Maybe the Indie Meetup did better.
	Dame Manette, here's her report.
	This is Sir Mark.
	And this is Dame Maria.
	And this is the Indian A meetup coming to you live from Fort Wayne, Indiana at the estate of Sir PBR Street Gang and Dame Trinity.
	It was an amazing event, and the long and short barrels were quite tasty.
	In the morning, John and Adams, Sir PBR Street Gang, I guess we are hosting this, Keeping America Safe from Pumpkins.
	Hat tips to my nephew, Great Range Master, having a great time here in Fort Wayne.
	Dame Trinity hosting a great meetup along with Sir PBR Street Gang.
	We had a great turnout, beautiful weather, and a lot of great company and food.
	In the morning, Mike Sulak, aka Region Rat from Hobart, Indiana.
	Sir, Ohio Bloke here in Cherubusco, Indiana, because apparently Ohio is too boring.
	Sir, son of a bloke, go sports ball.
	This is Sir Pove of the Maple, having a fantastic time here in Fort Wayne.
	Talking to Indianapolis.
	In the morning.
	This is Dominic of Hicksville, and this is my first meetup, and evidently I brought too many guns.
	In the morning, Adam John, this is Josh from Indianapolis.
	Guns, friends, and food.
	Yum.
	In the morning, this is Alicia.
	Glad to be here today shooting pumpkins.
	Thanks to Sir PBR Street Gang and Dame Trinity.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	It's Madder from Indianapolis.
	Sir, a code bongino for that too many guns website.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	I just found out Maria is non-Mexican, so I'm calling off the ice raid.
	Nope, in the morning.
	6-7, 6-7.
	Those guys are crazy.
	That was right.
	That was their shoot-up meetup.
	That's what that was.
	Beautiful.
	Thank you very much.
	Couple more meetups taking place.
	One you might want to go to.
	We have some important ones on the 15th.
	That'll be Saturday.
	The Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities Turkey Optional starts at 11.30 in the morning at Cheff Point Cafe in Coliville, Texas.
	The Fort Wayne No Agenda Club 33, number 38 at Hall's Tavern in Coventry, Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	And then the big Northern Silicon Valley Get John Out of the House meetup at 3.33 p.m. at Club Mallard in Albany, California.
	Go get John out of the house.
	Also, the No Agenda Central Ohio meetup kicks off at 5.30 on Saturday at Dempsey's in Columbus, Ohio.
	And the Gipmo Nation Fondue Meetup.
	This is the Zurich Meetup, Switzerland, 6 o'clock at Nelson's Pub in Zurich, Switzerland.
	Looking forward to a meetup report from you guys.
	And there is an RSVP on that one.
	Many more to find at noagendameetups.com.
	Once you go to one of these, you will want to keep coming back.
	You will find connection that gives you protection.
	These people will be your first responders in any emergency.
	Go to noagenda meetups.com to find out if there's one happening near you.
	If there isn't one, here's an idea.
	Start one yourself.
	It's easy, it's fun, and it's always a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You to be where you want me, triggered all hell.
	You to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	A reminder: we do have John's tip of the day coming up.
	We have some great end-of-show slop, end-of-show mixes, which are not all AI.
	I think you all enjoyed them.
	And before that, we always like to determine what we're going to play as our end-of-show ISO.
	I have, actually, I'm over ISO today.
	I have four of them.
	Do you know how many ISO?
	Do you have two, I see?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll start with mine.
	I'm Hall Griff.
	Just like that kid so much.
	Here's another one.
	That is awesome.
	I'm pulling from the archives.
	It could have been better.
	Yeah, they're doing great.
	Well done.
	Not too bad.
	I find that exhilarating.
	All very positive.
	All positive.
	All it's about time.
	I did like the second to the last one.
	I thought that was good.
	Yeah, they're doing great.
	Well done.
	Yeah, that one, a British guy.
	Okay, well, I have a couple.
	You have to guess which one's AI.
	Oh, okay.
	I can see by the waveform, it's yup.
	Well, let's start with best.
	These two fellas are the best in the business.
	Not AI.
	Okay, you fooled me.
	Yeah.
	And the other one?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	This is the only good podcast anyone does.
	These two fellas are the best in the business.
	Yeah, they're doing great.
	Well done.
	I think that's a double combo.
	I'm kind of liking that.
	That I knew you'd be in.
	And not only that, ladies and gentlemen, not only is Ian, but he has your tip of the day.
	Green fast for you and me.
	Just the tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	So I get some flack for this one.
	So there's a knife sharpener I've been using for 30 years and that keeps.
	I bought a second one.
	Well, why would you get flack?
	Knife sharpeners are important.
	This is, I'm excited about this.
	Well, I know why I'm going to get flack.
	I've tried all these different kinds of knife sharpeners.
	There's the three-stage, four-stage.
	There's the one you do this and this and this.
	This is a one-shot knife sharpener.
	It's one stage.
	It's not a cheap sharpener.
	It used to be cheaper.
	And I think you can still get it on sale if you look around.
	It's the Zwillig or Zwilling.
	Zwilling, which I believe is Hinkles, but Zwilling 32590-300 twin-sharp knife sharpener.
	It's a funny-looking thing.
	And it's easy to hold down.
	You hold it down to the ground, to the table, and then you drag the knife across this little slot.
	And I have had, I have old pre-World War II steel knives.
	I've got some knives.
	Are these the knives that you use to kill Nazis?
	I think they would work.
	Zwillig.
	What is the number again?
	It's the Zwilling 32590-300.
	Called a Twin Sharp and I have whoa.
	Okay, I have some sabatiers that i've had since the 70s and I keep sharpening them and it, I think it it, I think it.
	It sharpens the hell out of any blade except the Japanese blade.
	If you have Japanese blades you have to get a stone.
	Don't use a Japanese blade on this thing.
	This is uh like a.
	It has it's made of plastic handle, is that the one?
	Yeah, it's got the plastic funny shape.
	It's got a plastic handle.
	Yeah, it holds down and you pull your knife across towards you.
	That's a very simplistic uh.
	49 bucks on Amazon, I see yeah, it's too high, but it's what it is.
	But you pull a knife, you put the knife in and you pull it toward you and you do.
	Two of those will sharpen any knife pretty quickly.
	It's a surrounding.
	The Japanese knife's got a different blade angle and everything's wrong.
	And and a good Japanese knife needs a stone and you have to go to get them from a Japanese.
	I have a Japanese stone that's from some mountain in Japan is so famous also, lots of the stones, a hunting stone, a hueting stone yeah, they have these.
	Yes, they have.
	The Japanese have all these uh rituals about stone sharpening and they have all these these, these myths about the stone mountain that you have to take a chunk from that, use that to sharpen your knife.
	It's a long story, but with Japanese knives are they're very especially the good ones, so you have to be careful with those.
	You know what I would like in uh, in follow-up to this, which I think would really complete the series, I would like a knife tip of the day, a kitchen knife tip of the day.
	I think you could do several of them.
	Actually, I could do quite a few uh knife tips of the day.
	Yes uh okay, I will work on on the, the ultimate knife tip.
	You can find this tip and all of John's tips of the day at tipoftheday.net.
	Take a look.
	It's worth it.
	Class for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Betty.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and we thank Dana Brunetti for this fabulous creation.
	The the, the flack i'm gonna get is that this type of sharpener does it and it can.
	It can hurt.
	You can kill yourself with it.
	No no, it's it it's.
	It attacks the blade rather aggressively.
	It's an aggressive sharpener.
	We have end of show mixes people, and you will like them, David Denton, sir Joho Uh, FBI JUNK and Nico Syme.
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	Turn it on in the car, amaze your, your friends and family and the kids.
	They will all love it.
	Hello darling, my beautiful wife coming in with my uh, with my after-show drink.
	Yeah perfect oh, it's the one's not over.
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